Santiago

I put it on the Map, with a photo.

But, how much are they asking?

[QUOTE=PacoGrande;2045966]Took the Metro to Santa Lucia station and walked down Santa Rosa to Eyzaguirre. Walked west on the north side of Eyzagirre. About halfway to Valdes there was a group of older buildings with entries onto the street. Out side the buildings were a group of working girls. They are the type of WGs that stand outside their bedroom like Amsterdam. I saw this type in Juarez.

As I walked by I could peer into the the buildings. The doors were entries directly into residences. Bedrooms came off the entryway. Multiple people in the residences. I saw a couple of males peering through the screen doors of the entries. Some residences were dark.

There were six woman. I spoke mostly with 'Escarlet'. She was the youngest. Glasses. Cute. Roomy. Down to business but still friendly.

I also spoke with a buxom woman of African descent. Dreamy but down to business. She was in front of a dark residence. It would scare me following her into a residence.

I saw no other working woman along Eyzaguirre.

I got the impression that it would be a struggle to get satisfaction with any of the woman. The opposite of GFE. If I had my choice I'd go with Carmen, Gretchen or Macarina at Plaza de Armas. They are more likely to orgasm and explore my anus and let me explore theirs. I get the feeling the woman on Eyzaguirre would be high pressure to finish and look for excuse to stop things as soon as possible. I would be concerned for my safety going into the residences. Normally I take woman to my room. In Granada I got comfortable going into apartments of woman I contacted online.

Well, this is something for World Travel 69 to add to his map.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2046165]I put it on the Map, with a photo.

But, how much are they asking?[/QUOTE]Price is a negotiation. You only know how much when the deed is over and money changes. Any price I would have gotten would be an opening offer. Not of much value.

What I got is the location of working girls. That's what you record in your map.

Thanks for putting it on the map.

Paco.

The Price should always be Negotiated first and [B]paid after[/B] not before.

So, many guys get screwed if they don't.

Get that, the guy gets screwed not the girl.

If they give you a problem, put the money on the table, to paid after.

But of course in the brothel, you pay first; because you know the price, but not with street girls.

[QUOTE=PacoGrande;2046192]Price is a negotiation. You only know how much when the deed is over and money changes. Any price I would have gotten would be an opening offer. Not of much value.

What I got is the location of working girls. That's what you record in your map.

Thanks for putting it on the map.

Paco.[/QUOTE]

Today I took the metro to Plaza de Armas. It was crowded. A number of exhibitions. Open seats on benches and bancos were limited. Working girls were a bit more difficult to spot. Saw only one that I had seen previously, Macarina. She avoided me, likely because I didn't date her earlier. She didn't want to waste time with me again. She seemed to have the same depressed mood I noticed before. Sad young woman.

I used the StreetView website to map out a route. East on Mojitas. North on San Antonio. West on Santo Domingo and south on Estado back to plaza de Armas.

Along the route I encountered about a dozen working girls. A couple I found attractive. I could see myself dating either of them. On Estado I saw Mary. She was the older woman I mentioned earlier and I said she was named Gretchen. In the daylight I could see her age. She covered her mouth to hide what suspected was dental problems. I gave her money for food. I was less inclined to date her.

Back on Plaza de Armas I sat next to a comely mature woman. We spoke briefly. I got in a conversation with a couple men sitting down the bench. She listened in. The guys were saying that she would date me. A little while later she went away with a man that sat next to her. I saw an impression of a breast nipple protrude through her sweater. That was enough to tell myself I would date her.

Next time I come to Santiago I'll explore online dating.

So one thing that always went around your mind when you knew you were travelling to South America was; I must get laid.

So you probably went through many blogs of how to pick up Latin American girls, the slang words you need to learn to make then laugh, daytime and nighttime. But when it comes down that you are only for a few days it may be an option to get a sure shot of what the country has to offer.

Chile as I you may know Is probably the most stable and wealthy county of the region, it's institutions, and that includes the law are trustworthy and strict.

That may make you feel a little bit nervous, but the good thing is that Backpage Escorts are legal and regulated. So first of all you have to take out of your mind the street hooker concept of your mind. The services of independent Escorts which are the focus of this post are high quality and safe for the customer.

So one thing you have to learn is where to find them, You can check for yourself there that there is a few portals that are trustworthy, as they certify the information published and provide plenty information of the models as.

Height.

Age.

Eye color.

Hair color.

Attitude.

Price.

And they go as deep as Shaving style, yes; full Mohawk, you name it.

Also they include all the services they perform as:

Oral Sex.

Vaginal.

Anal.

Deepthroat.

And goes through spanking, domination, dual, Foot Fetish, and beyond.

The whole idea is to find the services and the provider that fits your needs.

Then the next step is The Call and setting an appointment.

I will add some information about how to communicate with her in "the call" in a next post.

So I'm finishing this entry wishing you a safe trip, and I hope with this information you can get a few appointments and have more time to explore the nature and enjoy all the beauties of this country I've been discovering for 4 years now.

You can feel free to PM if you need detailed information or my personal recommendations.

Have a great day!

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Before I lost the pictures, I am posting it here. Instead of #26, I decided to try #33 at the same location as #26, near the elevator on the far side. There were 2 women in the caf, the fat one approached me first, I immediately pointed to the other tall slander black girl. Everything went really fast, I did not even drink my coffee, and we ended up in the bathroom. I was smiling the whole time, not because I enjoyed it, but because it was such a strange experience and the place was filthy, I didn't know how to have sex standing up, and it is winter so I had some cloths on.

It was 30 k, she asked for tip, I gave her 5 k. The girl is 20, from Haiti. I consider her to be pretty. She also made effort to please me. Would have gone back to take her to my hotel if I have not felt she would stand out too much.

When I left, there were 3 women in the caf. I noticed the window is black color, not covered, so they can see thru. They just sat behind the window trying to lure people in.

The pictures are the bathroom of caf #33.

I also went to many escort apartments. It is cheap but very time consuming. I will write when I have time.

[QUOTE=Gagoo;1961052]I also found a apartment type place. Look up Hurfanos 714. Walk around there on the walking street. It is near the once again Enrique Mac Iver street. During the afternoon hours a man will hang around outside looking for me to go in. Just be about there looking for a man hanging around. If you walk near him slowly and look at him he will definitely ask you if you want a woman. I went to this place twice, and each time it had three girls, always 1 ugly one, 1 doable, and 1 quite good looking. The first was was a good looking woman indeed, she did DFK but a CBJ. I don't know why, but I could not cum. I think it was the small condom problem again. I didn't bring my own. We tried a couple times, but I gave up. I got her number which is a mistake because she still bothers me sometimes. I went the 2nd time, and I was going to see the same girl, but she wasn't there. It was dumb because the girl just messaged me and said she was there. I think she probably became busy with someone and didn't want to tell me the truth about it. So I found another decent girl. She kind of pissed me off when someone called and she said she had to go talk for awhile. This was after she was about to blow me. I was getting mad inside like I just wasted my money. But when she did return, she was the first and only woman to give me a blow job in Chile with no condom. What a relief, finally a BBBJ in Chile. She also gave DFK. For some reason when the lights were dim I was thinking this girl is kind of ugly. But after the sex we turned on the lights and I was relieved to see she is good looking.

The way it works here is the guy brings you in to the building and upstairs, and there are some apartments there. He actually gives a secret knock on one of the doors and they open up. In the room had 3 girls, and a very small room that was divided in to two areas with 2 beds. I guess you can fuck there, but that would be odd, there were only curtains. Price 30,000 for an hour. You can pay for less, but I can't remember how much. The guy will tell you it's OK he'll take you to another room. Do you want to know how he gets in to the other apartment? He uses a butter knife to jimmy the door. Anyways, the girl might make you mad once you get in the room because she will say for extra positions, kissing, oral it will cost 10,000. The 2nd girl actually asked me how much I would pay. I paid an extra 10,000 both times. So 40,000 pesos for an hour isn't too bad, at least you get a bed. I wouldn't try to use that nasty shower though.[/QUOTE]I went to this place by accident but the building is on the opposite side. I went to the first one you described, on the second floor, the room number is 100. Half hour is 25. In all other places I have been to, when an hour is 30, half hour will be 20. If I had read your post carefully, I would have the man take me to see the other apartments. I do not like this place. I have been to worse ones than this, but the other places do not upsell, and girls look healthy.

There is a 24/7 night club on Bucaresst. Often there will be a couple of men around Gral Adolfo Holley to get you to the bar. I have passed thru here many times and have never seen any girl working until one Saturday after midnight. I was walking along Suecia, an old woman with blond hair grab my arm at the intersection of Av Nueva Providencia. She was too old with bad teeth so I was not interested. When I walked to Luisiana bar, I finally saw a couple of street walkers but they were the chubby type so I was not interested.

My fisrt visit when the door opened I saw more than 10 girls in a small apartment in 21th floor on Providencia. There were also many phones on the table. I guessed the phones were for WhatsApp app. They let me pick but all the girls were ugly so I shake my head and left. This is the about the only place I got a lineup.

Most other places are more discrete. The girls are hidden from view or hide behind the curtain or in a room. Most places have a makeshift room in the living room with curtain. I always asked to wait for a room when they wanted me to use the makeshift bed. They would switched me to a room when I did that, and I could see several girls coming out from the room. One time, they move me to another apartment in a different floor. Here I saw the operators with a group of women sitting around the table. By this time, I have visited this particular place multiple times so the operators already know me.

[B]Pictures[/B]

They may place a few ads for best one they have out of many chicas in house. So when you arrive, you may not get the one you see. By luck, the first one I encounter is from Colombia and she is very good, so I repeat. After a few times with different chicas, I can guess how they work.

There were also independent, similar setup but mostly in a studio apartment.

[B]Building security[/B]

All buildings have security, the organized ones want you to register but the independent usually don't. The security knows what is going on in the building. An independent told me to act normal to just walk pass the security. That is what I do most of the times. I was stopped occasionally, mainly because my Spanish makes them suspicious.

[B]Prices[/B]

My experience is that independent charges 30 K / HR while organized operation charges 40 K / HR. It is 10 K less for hhr if that is offered.

[B]Higher price escorts[/B]

I have attempted to try higher price options from the escort site but did not get very far. I think most of them want you to call and my limited Spanish is no good for that. I also feel most of them do not have patience with people who don't speak Spanish. I was able to get in touch with one to book but it really puzzled me that she insisted on the time that I was not available. The others that I got in touch with offering service without sex. They do everything, and maybe he but no sex. I think this is called "servicio normal", instead of "servicio completo". This took me a while to figure out. Then I just gave up.

I probably have visited all the BP operations that would let me visit. It is a time consuming process. There are many choices from different countries (Colombia, Peru, Venezuala.) but most are subpar. I found a few good ones after many visits but who knows how long they will last.

Oasis Providencia.

Avenida 11 de Septiembre 1447, Apt _ _ Chicas. Prices: 30 k 1 hour. Tel: 2XXX345. Hours: _.

[QUOTE=WindAngel;2071514]My fisrt visit when the door opened I saw more than 10 girls in a small apartment in 21th floor on Providencia. There were also many phones on the table. I guessed the phones were for WhatsApp app. They let me pick but all the girls were ugly so I shake my head and left. This is the about the only place I got a lineup.

Most other places are more discrete. The girls are hidden from view or hide behind the curtain or in a room. Most places have a makeshift room in the living room with curtain. I always asked to wait for a room when they wanted me to use the makeshift bed. They would switched me to a room when I did that, and I could see several girls coming out from the room. One time, they move me to another apartment in a different floor. Here I saw the operators with a group of women sitting around the table. By this time, I have visited this particular place multiple times so the operators already know me.

[B]Pictures[/B]

They may place a few ads for best one they have out of many chicas in house. So when you arrive, you may not get the one you see. By luck, the first one I encounter is from Colombia and she is very good, so I repeat. After a few times with different chicas, I can guess how they work.

There were also independent, similar setup but mostly in a studio apartment.

[B]Building security[/B]

All buildings have security, the organized ones want you to register but the independent usually don't. The security knows what is going on in the building. An independent told me to act normal to just walk pass the security. That is what I do most of the times. I was stopped occasionally, mainly because my Spanish makes them suspicious.

[B]Prices[/B]

My experience is that independent charges 30 K / HR while organized operation charges 40 K / HR. It is 10 K less for hhr if that is offered..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2071535]Oasis Providencia.

Avenida 11 de Septiembre 1447, Apt _ _ Chicas. Prices: 30 k 1 hour..[/QUOTE]It is not the same place. The place I went is an apartment with this address.

Diego de Velásquez, Providencia.

The operator on the WhatsApp can communicate in English, that is why I went.

All I am finding is a street with the same name and a Hotel. [URL]http://www.hoteldiegodevelazquez.com/[/URL].

[QUOTE=WindAngel;2071550]It is not the same place. The place I went is an apartment with this address.

Diego de Velsquez, Providencia.

The operator on the WhatsApp can communicate in English, that is why I went.[/QUOTE]

After having lived one year in Sangtiago (Las Condes) and on the coast in Reaca, all I can say is Chile blows for so many reasons. First, the local women are the least attractive of any in South America, most are downright ugly. The only attractive girls I met there were either on vacation or working girls visiting from someplace else like Colombia or Argentina. Costs were sky high, probably because Chile dosen't have many of it's own beautiful women.

This leads me to the second reason Chile is a flop, the cost of everything is equal to or higher than first world nations, but not any better quality and often times worse. The food is crap except seafood, and if I wanted seafood I would go to Boston which is several times better. Rent for a comparable place and neighborhood as I lived in Chile would be roughly 1/3 the cost in Colombia, in Argentina only 2/3 what I paid in Chile, for example. Chile is said to be the Switzerland of S America, maybe when it comes to prices! I would stay in the US before I would go to Chile, whether to live or for vacation, just on prices alone.

Another reason I don't like Chile is the people. I love meeting new people and have no trouble ever in a new place, I like get out and make friends. Chile is the most difficult latin country to make friends in my opinion, female (not that I wanted to with their looks), or male buddies. Chile has the largest population of feminists (short hairs, as I call them), and homosexuals in SA, and you have to deal with their fragile psychology almost daily as they have many of the government positions, or watch them on TV, just like you would in western countries. No thanks, I prefer feminine women and to be the man in my relationships. The average Chileno does not like foreigners, I am not sure if it's because they think Chile is so great or if they feel threatened, never took the time to find out, it just seemed unhealthy. They don't outright say it, but it comes through in how they act. Chilenos are also more inclined to be outright confrontational in my experience, than in other latin countries of which I have lived in 4 in South America, and visited several more. The police are also not friendly, don't ever smile, as is the case with most government workers. It's like the overworked US employee, except not even half as friendly, which leads me to my last negative observation of Chile.

No place in South America have I had a problem with crime except Chile. Granted, these were not big crimes but I will explain, since I have never had a problem anyplace else. The only taxi that has ever tried to take me for a ridewas in Santiago, Chile. This clown thought he was going to drive me all over the place instead of directly to a little peruvian owned and operated restaurant I had read about on the internet. As I always prepare ahead of time, I knew exactly where were should be going, he insisted it had to be his way (I speak spanish), and as the meter kept rolling over I finally got pissed enough to tell him to pull over and let me out. He tried to get verbally aggressive, but I just moved over in the seat so I was directly behind him, there was nothing he could do if he turned around, it would've been the end of him, and told him to pull over which he finally did. I then raised my voice and told him he was lucky I was paying anything (we were part way there, even though shoulda been ther 10 minutes before! Through a few pesos in his lap and got out with no further problem.

The second petty bullshit occurrence was in the Jumbo grocery store in Concon on the coast. I shopped there frequently and thought I was not given correct change one day but it wasn't much (exactly $2 k pesos), so made note to pay closer attention though I didn't recall which girl checked me out. The second time I noticed this happen, again I was almost out of the door but turned to see which line and cashier it was so I could verify later. Yes, she had short changed me the exact same amount $2 k pesos. So now I know it is not an accident, its her modus operandi, her little gig. The next day I go back and make sure to check out with the same cashier, same result with the light change, and the verbally light her up in front of everybody. She coughed up my change real quick, and I continued for another minute or so to her extreme embarrassment, then let it go. The point of the story, like a cheesy little gypsy, this ugly Chilena and scumbag taxista were my only two times being scammedin South America.

Chile blows, way overpriced, beat up and ugly women sucking down hotdogs with mayonnaise (yuck! And the only good looking ones came from someplace else where you could have had them for 25 to 30% what you have to pay her in Santiago! I forgot to mention the smog of Santiago. It was so bad that is why I had to move to the coast after just a couple months in the city. Lastly, Chilenos speak the worst Spanish on the continent, too fast and twisting all the words into dirty slang. The government is more oppressive than western countries with their rules and regulations. Whereas every latin country I have lived in I ended up staying longer than originally planned, I left Chile early and cut my stay there to half what I had planned. I will never go back, and I will never spend another dime on anything from Chile.

I'm looking for a wing man to explore Santiago dark side, maybe some of the topless. Send me a message or reply to this comment. I'm just really curious to see if it sucks as much as everyone says so.

Cheers!

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[QUOTE=JamesDandy;2091638]After having lived one year in Sangtiago (Las Condes) and on the coast in Reaca, all I can say is Chile blows for so many reasons. First, the local women are the least attractive of any in South America, most are downright ugly. The only attractive girls I met there were either on vacation or working girls visiting from someplace else like Colombia or Argentina. Costs were sky high, probably because Chile dosen't have many of it's own beautiful women.

This leads me to the second reason Chile is a flop, the cost of everything is equal to or higher than first world nations, but not any better quality and often times worse. The food is crap except seafood, and if I wanted seafood I would go to Boston which is several times better. Rent for a comparable place and neighborhood as I lived in Chile would be roughly 1/3 the cost in Colombia, in Argentina only 2/3 what I paid in Chile, for example. Chile is said to be the Switzerland of S America, maybe when it comes to prices! I would stay in the US before I would go to Chile, whether to live or for vacation, just on prices alone.

Another reason I don't like Chile is the people. I love meeting new people and have no trouble ever in a new place, I like get out and make friends. Chile is the most difficult latin country to make friends in my opinion, female (not that I wanted to with their looks), or male buddies. Chile has the largest population of feminists (short hairs, as I call them), and homosexuals in SA, and you have to deal with their fragile psychology almost daily as they have many of the government positions, or watch them on TV, just like you would in western countries. No thanks, I prefer feminine women and to be the man in my relationships. The average Chileno does not like foreigners, I am not sure if it's because they think Chile is so great or if they feel threatened, never took the time to find out, it just seemed unhealthy. They don't outright say it, but it comes through in how they act. Chilenos are also more inclined to be outright confrontational in my experience, than in other latin countries of which I have lived in 4 in South America, and visited several more. The police are also not friendly, don't ever smile, as is the case with most government workers. It's like the overworked US employee, except not even half as friendly, which leads me to my last negative observation of Chile.

No place in South America have I had a problem with crime except Chile. Granted, these were not big crimes but I will explain, since I have never had a problem anyplace else. The only taxi that has ever tried to take me for a ridewas in Santiago, Chile. This clown thought he was going to drive me all over the place instead of directly to a little peruvian owned and operated restaurant I had read about on the internet. As I always prepare ahead of time, I knew exactly where were should be going, he insisted it had to be his way (I speak spanish), and as the meter kept rolling over I finally got pissed enough to tell him to pull over and let me out. He tried to get verbally aggressive, but I just moved over in the seat so I was directly behind him, there was nothing he could do if he turned around, it would've been the end of him, and told him to pull over which he finally did. I then raised my voice and told him he was lucky I was paying anything (we were part way there, even though shoulda been ther 10 minutes before! Through a few pesos in his lap and got out with no further problem.

The second petty bullshit occurrence was in the Jumbo grocery store in Concon on the coast. I shopped there frequently and thought I was not given correct change one day but it wasn't much (exactly $2 k pesos), so made note to pay closer attention though I didn't recall which girl checked me out. The second time I noticed this happen, again I was almost out of the door but turned to see which line and cashier it was so I could verify later. Yes, she had short changed me the exact same amount $2 k pesos. So now I know it is not an accident, its her modus operandi, her little gig. The next day I go back and make sure to check out with the same cashier, same result with the light change, and the verbally light her up in front of everybody. She coughed up my change real quick, and I continued for another minute or so to her extreme embarrassment, then let it go. The point of the story, like a cheesy little gypsy, this ugly Chilena and scumbag taxista were my only two times being scammedin South America.

Chile blows, way overpriced, beat up and ugly women sucking down hotdogs with mayonnaise (yuck! And the only good looking ones came from someplace else where you could have had them for 25 to 30% what you have to pay her in Santiago! I forgot to mention the smog of Santiago. It was so bad that is why I had to move to the coast after just a couple months in the city. Lastly, Chilenos speak the worst Spanish on the continent, too fast and twisting all the words into dirty slang. The government is more oppressive than western countries with their rules and regulations. Whereas every latin country I have lived in I ended up staying longer than originally planned, I left Chile early and cut my stay there to half what I had planned. I will never go back, and I will never spend another dime on anything from Chile.[/QUOTE]So be honest, do you like Chile or not? Don't be so shaky, jejejeje seriously thanks for your perspective as this country has been wiped off my bucket list.

TTM.