Amsterdam

I screwed up the editing of my last post, leaving an extra word "seedy." I did not mean to characterize the swingers club Beverly as being "seedy." It is quite the opposite -- a real class act. This is what I get for posting with a mobile device.

I am traveling to India for buisness in late April or early May, and plan on an extended layover in Frankfurt for 3-4 days. On the return trip I will also spend an extended layover in Amsterdam.

I would like to do the following while in Amsterdam:
1. Find 2 or 3 good local (white european) girls for a reasonable price.
2. Party, try out Absinthe, drink local beers
3. Check out the sex related tourist sites. (museums, nude beach)

I'm not looking for 10's, I just want to find a few 7's or 8's. I am afraid of STDs so I will not do anything without a condom. All I am looking for is a little BJ followed by vaginal sex in the positions of my choice.

Where should I go?
How much will it cost?
What should I expect?

[QUOTE=Lente Subigo]I am traveling to India for buisness in late April or early May, and plan on an extended layover in Frankfurt for 3-4 days. On the return trip I will also spend an extended layover in Amsterdam.

I would like to do the following while in Amsterdam:
1. Find 2 or 3 good local (white european) girls for a reasonable price.
2. Party, try out Absinthe, drink local beers
3. Check out the sex related tourist sites. (museums, nude beach)

I'm not looking for 10's, I just want to find a few 7's or 8's. I am afraid of STDs so I will not do anything without a condom. All I am looking for is a little BJ followed by vaginal sex in the positions of my choice.

Where should I go?
How much will it cost?
What should I expect?[/QUOTE]Lente, I’ve only been once, so I’m by no means an authority, but I think I can answer your questions. Actually being a novice myself might make my perspective a little closer to yours anyway.

First and foremost, RTFF. That includes all the Amsterdam threads, window girls, private houses, general info, etc. BeowulfSmith recently wrote a report that you should study. I also highly recommend the book, Get Lost! The Cool Guide to Amsterdam by Joe Pauker. It’s not your average travel guide. And if you are relying on a map, I suggest you have a compass as well, as it is very easy to lose your sense of direction in that city.

Sounds like for sex you’ll want to try a combination of window girls and Private Houses. Staying covered won’t be a problem as it is the norm. Don’t expect a thrill ride from the window girls, but there are some real beauties that can provide good fantasy material for years to come! I think the standard rate for window girls is still 50E, suck and fuck. You want to negotiate any extras before you enter their space, such as topless, doggy style, etc. Personally, I never bothered with the extras. Most window girls are going to try and get you in and out of there as quickly as possible. Window girls are in the RLDs. I have faith that you’ll be able to find them (hint: RTFF).

I haven’t been to Private Houses, though I wish I had. But it is my understanding that the service is better than the RLD and you can take your time. However, the girls aren’t always so stunningly beautiful as those you’ll find in the windows, which is why I suggest you try both. Prices for private houses are well documented in that thread. And Routard has made a comprehensive list right here, which I suggest you print and bring along:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=343942&postcount=57[/url]

As far as partying goes, walk out of Central Station, pick a spot, and party! Drinking won’t be a problem; I never tried absinthe. As for coffeeshops to buy weed, watch out for rip-off joints. I recommend the following for actual purchases: Amnesia, Dampkring, Grey Area, and Yo-Yo (Yo-Yo is off the beaten track by Albert Cuypmarkt, but their organic bud is worth the extra distance). When I was there 4 years ago I mostly hung out at Amnesia, as well as Stones and Hill St. Blues because they also sold beer. I’m pretty sure they no longer sell beer in any coffeeshops, or they will stop soon. As with anything, a little research goes a long way:
[url]http://www.coffeeshop.freeuk.com/ACDfrmGu.html[/url]
If you want more info on weed, you can PM me, that’s one thing I do happen to know quite a bit about! And, no, I can't hook you up! Don't even ask.

Amsterdam is expensive. All I can really suggest is to bring as much moolah as you can. Take notes, and most importantly, write a detailed report upon your return!

[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]

[QUOTE=Sordid Ways]Which brings me to another essential quality of a swingers club.- They cater primarily to couples, all of whom are interested in sex; some of whom are interested in playing with other couples; some of whom are looking to add a woman (and who wouldn't? ); and some of whom will play with single men. Some men will watch their wives get fucked by one man after another, sometimes to play out a gangbang fantasy. After all, a woman can experience arousal and orgasm many more times in a night than a man. As a single man in a swingers club, the quantity and quality of your experience depends on how well you understand this dynamic and on your communication skills, which may be verbal or nonverbal. In a healthy swinging relationship, the man derives pleasure from the pleasure his woman experiences. Outside of a free-for-all orgy/gangbang, developing rapport with the man is as important as connecting with the woman. In Germany they say, "Alles kanne; nichts muss! " meaning anything can happen, but nothing must happen. In NL and Germany, relaxed attitudes toward sex make swinging just that much better.
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I totally agree what you said regarding what a good atmosphere looks like in a heathy swinger club/

I've been in Candy club in Amsterdam once, a very small club and most are local dutch clients but they're not narrow minded.

Paradise had some good reviews 2 years ago from other webistes saying this is a true international club but I didn't hear anything more from that time. I sent an email to them for some questions but no response always.

Showboat can be a good choice, I will think about this seriously. Thanks

[QUOTE=Lente Subigo]I am traveling to India for buisness in late April or early May, and plan on an extended layover in Frankfurt for 3-4 days. On the return trip I will also spend an extended layover in Amsterdam.

I would like to do the following while in Amsterdam:
1. Find 2 or 3 good local (white european) girls for a reasonable price.
2. Party, try out Absinthe, drink local beers
3. Check out the sex related tourist sites. (museums, nude beach)

I'm not looking for 10's, I just want to find a few 7's or 8's. I am afraid of STDs so I will not do anything without a condom. All I am looking for is a little BJ followed by vaginal sex in the positions of my choice.

Where should I go?
How much will it cost?
What should I expect?[/QUOTE]Regarding local beers: You should try In De Wildeman on Nieuwzijds Kolk and Arendsnest at Herengracht 90. The short walk between these two excellent bars will take you through the Singel red light district. The beers you will find won't be standard Euro lagers, but some of The Netherlands finest alcoholic products. I hear the Singel is quite good too.

I completely agree.

I've been to the Showboat [see my report - 4 swinger days in Amsterdam] and to Paradise. The showboat wind hands down - friendly staff & people, facilities, ratio of men to women, good food, and pirice.

Been also lately to Beverly - it is really out in the woods [must have a car, I stayed at hotel Niggeman for less than 55EU/night]. I went on the bi-night. There was certainly bi-action, but also much hetero. The buffet was top notch! and includes unlinmited drinks. The place is really big with two floors. What I really did not like was the fact that to help the single men get off, they have professionals [prostitutes] who will try to get you off ASAP in general. On the other hand - the are available. [I personallt prefer the real swingers - it's more honest and exciting for me.]

To wrap thing up, I alse been to PartyTreff Dorsten [read Wan King's reports]. It's a brothel-buffet - pay at the door, then fuck as much as you can. I thought that the idea was great before visiting, but I did not really like the experience. Again - we each got our own preferences ...

btm, all these experiences were quite safe - I got tested afterwards and came clean.

[QUOTE=Sordid Ways]From what I can gather, Showboat ([url]http://www.showboat. Nl[/url]) is the leading swinger club in Amsterdam. Personally, I have not visited but intend to do so during my next visit to Amsterdam at the end of April. What I know about Showboat and other clubs in NL is mainly from this site. I encourage you to do some research by reading these reports, yourself. RTFF, as they say, and don't forget to post reports of your experiences.

What is your experience with swingers clubs? I have seen mixed reviews on swingers clubs that reflect less about the club but that swingers clubs are not everyone's cup of tea.

My experiences with swingers have been varied. I have visited an seedy on-premises club in Germany, Club Beverly ([url]http://www.beverly2000.net[/url]).- See my previous posts. I have attended a social mixer, organized on the Internet and held at an off-premises club in the you. S. I attended a BDSM theme party at a sex club in San Francisco. I've even taken part in a spontaneous gangbang in a seedy adult theater in the you. S.

The common thread running through all of my swinging experiences that distinguishes them from other P4P is that YMMV is a very big factor in the experience. Because I like the swinging lifestyle and have adapted my behavior to it, my mileage tends to better than some, perhaps.

There is a special thrill the hunt to a swingers club that you won't find, outside of the streetwalker scene or the bar scene, whether with pros or civilians (aka "social mongering"). The SW scene and the bar scene, though exciting, come with a number of risks and disadvantages that would make me choose an evening in a swingers club.

Are you planning on visiting a swingers club alone or with SO/date? Some of the clubs about which I've read might actually be less inviting for a single man. Some swingers clubs are open couples only, while others have certain nights reserved for couples. All charge higher entrance fees for men than for couples or for single women, who generally get in free of charge. Check their websites. Beverly, the club I like to visit in Germany has certain weekend nights reserved for couples and on any weekend, has certain spaces reserved for couples.

Which brings me to another essential quality of a swingers club.- They cater primarily to couples, all of whom are interested in sex; some of whom are interested in playing with other couples; some of whom are looking to add a woman (and who wouldn't? ); and some of whom will play with single men. Some men will watch their wives get fucked by one man after another, sometimes to play out a gangbang fantasy. After all, a woman can experience arousal and orgasm many more times in a night than a man. As a single man in a swingers club, the quantity and quality of your experience depends on how well you understand this dynamic and on your communication skills, which may be verbal or nonverbal. In a healthy swinging relationship, the man derives pleasure from the pleasure his woman experiences. Outside of a free-for-all orgy/gangbang, developing rapport with the man is as important as connecting with the woman. In Germany they say, "Alles kanne; nichts muss! " meaning anything can happen, but nothing must happen. In NL and Germany, relaxed attitudes toward sex make swinging just that much better.

On my next trip to Europe, I will visit Beverly, again and possibly a partytreff or an FKK in the Nord Rhine Westphalia region, but I am totally looking forward to trying Showboat, because the open-ended possibilities of swingers clubs are so exciting to me.[/QUOTE]

Went to the Showboat last Thursday.

From Amsterdam Central Station, take a train to Koog-Zandijk (on the Alkmaar line, around €3). Plenty of them all day. The station is a 15 minutes' walk away from the Showboat and you have the pleasure of strolling through a very nice, residential, typically Dutch area.

When at the Showboat (dead easy to find if you look at their website and double check with Google Earth or Viamichelin), you pay the fee (membership €10 + entrance €40), you go downstairs where you leave your clothes and belongings in a locker, and there you go.

Stayed 2 1/2 hours. 7 couples present + 2 single ladies (professionals, I guess, paid to help let single men release the pressure) + about 10 men at most. Enjoyed the action with one of these single ladies (pleasant gang bang). An hour later, whereas the attendance was going down (it was a Thrusday night), enjoyed the action with a couple (DATY + CBJ). The 40ish year old woman was quite attractive and hot. Before midnight, had a third good time with another couple (CBJ + doggy).

Hans, the Showboat's taxi driver, took me back to my hotel in Amsterdam (€35) in no time.

Although this was a Thursday night and not many people were present, I did have a great time and do recommend the place (clean, secure, reasonably cheap).

Next day around 11 a.m., was visiting the city when I stumbled upon a RLD I did not expect (Bergstraat, I think, to the west of the city center). €40 for a CBJ with a very cute, talkative Venezualian girl. Many attractive girls in the same street although it was quite early.

Enjoy Amsterdam : good beer, good sex, beautiful city !

Frenchie

[QUOTE=Olaf06]Been also lately to Beverly - it is really out in the woods [must have a car, I stayed at hotel Niggeman for less than 55EU/night].

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What I really did not like was the fact that to help the single men get off, they have professionals [prostitutes] who will try to get you off ASAP in general. On the other hand - the are available. [I personallt prefer the real swingers - it's more honest and exciting for me.]

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To wrap thing up, I alse been to PartyTreff Dorsten [read Wan King's reports]. It's a brothel-buffet - pay at the door, then fuck as much as you can. I thought that the idea was great before visiting, but I did not really like the experience. Again - we each got our own preferences.[/QUOTE]With regards to Beverly's location. Yes, I would definitely recommend having a car, as it's a hike from the nearest hotel. I've stayed at the Niggeman, twice. If you meantion that you're going to Beverly, they will give you a discount.

The pros at Beverly are more like "semi-pro. " They have day jobs, and for the most part, they seem to be enjoying themselves. YMMV, but I've only had one experience, where I thought I was being rushed, and I've had some hot times with them, too. More than once I was convinced that I was fucking a single guest, of which Beverly has some.

As for Partytreff Dorsten.- I read the reports before I went, so I knew what to expect and that for these girls, who work very hard, it would be in their interest to make me come, as soon as possible. Knowing that, I adjusted my behavior, accordingly. I tried to make good conversation, while they were at the bar or eating. I sat down at the table with Cladia, Nicole, and (who was the other one in their group? ) for dinner. I ended up striking up a nice raport with Claudia, especially, and her service to me was very good. Also, by reading the forum, I was able to figure out how to position myself near the bathroom, so as to maximize the opportunities to get service. Yes, it's different strokes for different folks, but adjusting the approach to the venue optimizes the experience, regardless of the format of the club.

What is the best days of the week for Showboat? Is there any action on Thursday afternoon or Sunday afternoon, when the club opens early?

Quick report. A pal and I were in Amsterdam earlier this week to blow off some steam and decided to hit an AMP. I'm a fan of AMPs in general and my friend has a major asian fetish so I was interested in what Amsterdam might offer. (I've been to quite a few AMPs in Toronto, Las Vegas and NYC... some good, some bad).

We first stopped by Chiang Mai, a young fairly attractive girl cracked the door a bit and showed a menu emphasizing "no sex". We decided to check out the FS place Love Club 34 (sp?) for comparison. There was only one good looking girl at the FS place, so it was back to Chiang Mai for a rub and tug.

Sure enough, as mentioned elsewhere it was a bait and switch tactic with the girls asking for 150 for full contact.

Seems like a hit or miss place, my girl was about an 8 in looks, the massage was very light. She was somewhat enthusiastic near the finish, but it seemed rushed. No co-shower unfortunately and quite pricey. First time I've had a HJ via a rubber glove!

My friend had better luck, a younger girl, still pricey but no glove and a co-shower. I imagine there are far better places to spend your time and money in Amsterdam, I won't be returning to Chiang Mai on my next visit.

Yeh Chiang Mai is abit pricey for what you get i.e. massage & HJ. Try Vienna Massage there you have good selection of ladies & if Sara is still working at Vienna choose her as she is a pure gem.

I've seen the Candy Club mentioned a few times but nobody has given much detail. I intend to go on a Friday, could anyone tell me if it is a good club or not?

They pay 4 girls 200 each and look what they do!!!

[url]http://www.metacafe.com/watch/262584/*******_season_1_prostitute_boat_race/[/url]

[url]http://www.yabyum.nl/movie/yabyum.wmv[/url]

Is Kasteel Waterloo on the Dutch German border worth seeing? I honestly do not hobby anymore in Amsterdam but was curious about this club since I am traveling to Germany next month and it is not too far from where I am staying.

How much is the Euro compared to U.S. Dollars?

Like if I have 500 Euros, how much is it in U.S. Dollars?