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[QUOTE=SrChivo;1852537]Anyone recommend what city to visit 1st and what length of time?[/QUOTE]For mongering, Pattaya is best. For a combination of mongering and other activities, Bangkok. As for must sees, check out the PSE oilies (Tulip / Snow White / Cherry / Sky / Candy) in Bangkok.

I'd advise you to adjust your expectations. The scene is large, but Thai hookers (especially in Pattaya) are not the best looking bunch in the world. However, on average they provide a more pleasant experience (not so much raw sex as GFE), than almost anywhere else. At least, it used to be like that up to a few years ago.

For other questions, read a travel guide. Yes, drink bottled water.

[QUOTE=SrChivo;1852537]Well seasoned veteran in central and south America regions plenty of times. Looking to plan with a friend 7 to 14 days in Thailand. I am a very busy small business owner and looking for seasoned info from veterans of Thailand. I do have much time to RTFF but I am trying.[/QUOTE]If it's your first time in Thailand and you have two weeks to spend, I's suggest to spread that time equally between Bangkok and Pattaya, unless you are [B]only[/B] interested in mongering, in which case it should be 100% time in Pattaya.

[QUOTE=SrChivo;1852537]Anyone recommend what city to visit 1st and what length of time? Any must sees? I've seen plenty of videos of the walking street. I like Latinas myself but will indulge on Thailand for a trip and see how it goes. I the flat asses and bad teeth.[/QUOTE]If you want to see both Bangkok and Pattaya, it doesn't matter what city you visit first. In Bangkok you have more "non-mongering" options and I think Bangkok is a more gentle introduction to Thailand than Pattaya.

Walking Street in Pattaya has become less and less interesting for us mongers. I find it overpriced for the quality it offers. I know that some members here find it the ideal place to pick-up non-pro girls from the discos, but if you are a newbie in Pattaya, that is arguably not the best place to start. You will need some "game" and experience to get the most benefit of that scene.

[QUOTE=SrChivo;1852537]Whats everyone's preferred mode of transportation? Any issues with public water system or is it bottled water all the way like Ecuador? Thanks in advance and I know some place there is a newbie page but I haven't found it.[/QUOTE]In Pattaya that will be the ubiquitous "baht busses", cheap and relatively fast and easy to use as they run a fixed tour. For really fast, use the motorcycle taxis but prices are to be negotiated and are easily a tenfold of the baht-busses. Forget about taxis they are relatively expensive in Pattaya, unless for a longer distance (far out of town).

In Bangkok, use the "skytrain" (BTS) or underground (MRT) where possible. On the river, the express boats are your best bet. Taxis use meters and are relatively cheap but also quite slow due to the bad traffic in Bangkok. Motorcycle taxis are most expensive but get you anywhere fast. Never ever use the "tuk-tuks": they are for clueless tourists only.

Drink bottled water, that's what the Thai do as well. Or filter the tap water and drop in some water-purification tablets (Yeah, I know, some old Army habits die slowly).

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In Bangkok, use the "skytrain" (BTS) or underground (MRT) where possible. On the river, the express boats are your best bet. Taxis use meters and are relatively cheap but also quite slow due to the bad traffic in Bangkok. Motorcycle taxis are most expensive but get you anywhere fast. Never ever use the "tuk-tuks": they are for clueless tourists only.
[/QUOTE]If it came down to choosing a destination based on public transportation, I'd have to pick Pattaya and the baht bus setup. The BTS is fine for traveling several stops but you'll find yourself walking and walking to reach the bts stations and then having to walk up two flights of stairs (unless your lucky enough to find the token few escalators they built). Then you have to walk another half a mile to get to your destination. So much easier to step out into the street in Pattaya and flag down a baht bus. Other problem with the water taxi's is they usually don't fully stop when they get to the dock, you've got to be agile enough to vault out of the boat. And if you decide to try out the Mrt or the Bts during peak hours you'll be waiting just to board the train.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1853201]If it's your first time in Thailand and you have two weeks to spend, I's suggest to spread that time equally between Bangkok and Pattaya, unless you are [B]only[/B] interested in mongering, in which case it should be 100% time in Pattaya.

If you want to see both Bangkok and Pattaya, it doesn't matter what city you visit first. In Bangkok you have more "non-mongering" options and I think Bangkok is a more gentle introduction to Thailand than Pattaya.

Walking Street in Pattaya has become less and less interesting for us mongers. I find it overpriced for the quality it offers. I know that some members here find it the ideal place to pick-up non-pro girls from the discos, but if you are a newbie in Pattaya, that is arguably not the best place to start. You will need some "game" and experience to get the most benefit of that scene.

In Pattaya that will be the ubiquitous "baht busses", cheap and relatively fast and easy to use as they run a fixed tour. For really fast, use the motorcycle taxis but prices are to be negotiated and are easily a tenfold of the baht-busses. Forget about taxis they are relatively expensive in Pattaya, unless for a longer distance (far out of town).

In Bangkok, use the "skytrain" (BTS) or underground (MRT) where possible. On the river, the express boats are your best bet. Taxis use meters and are relatively cheap but also quite slow due to the bad traffic in Bangkok. Motorcycle taxis are most expensive but get you anywhere fast. Never ever use the "tuk-tuks": they are for clueless tourists only.

Drink bottled water, that's what the Thai do as well. Or filter the tap water and drop in some water-purification tablets (Yeah, I know, some old Army habits die slowly).[/QUOTE]I am going to respectfully disagree just a bit with the statement if you are going to Thailand solely for mongering, you should spend 100 percent of your time in Pattaya. I should state up front though it has been years since I visited Pattaya (I visit Bangkok maybe three or four times a year, which says something about my preference) but have kept up on developments there by reading this forum, among others.

A preference for Pattaya for mongering really depends on what you are looking for. It seems Pattaya may have a better go-go and maybe beer bar scene than Bangkok, although the differential may have diminished over years. But some of us prefer PSE oil massage places like Snow White, Mango, Bongkot, Candy's, and Tulip (among a couple of others), or just plain oil massage places (like Addict or Mitu, e.g.) and Bangkok is much better for these sorts of places. Moreover, there is an extensive soapies scene in Bangkok and this barely exists in Pattaya.

Also, if one is used to Brazilian P4P service levels (as it appears the person who initially posed the question about Pattaya vs. Bangkok is), he may be disappointed in the average go-go or beer bar girl's service. On the other hand, the PSE soapies come much closer, and IMHO sometimes exceed, what one would come to expect in Brazil.

So, if one knows he really wants to spend time in go-gos and beer bars, sure Pattaya may be better (although I'm not positive about this these days). But if you want to experience a range of P4P venues, there is a good argument for spending time in Bangkok. I doubt though one could know in advance which type of venue one would prefer.

For a first trip, I would suggest trying both, maybe with an initial plan of splitting your time between the two, but unless you have prepaid hotel reservations that cannot be canceled, you always would have the option of modifying this once there.

[QUOTE=SrChivo;1852537]I like Latinas myself but will indulge on Thailand for a trip and see how it goes. I the flat asses and bad teeth.[/QUOTE]Where did you get the idea that Thais have flat asses and bad teeth? There are 3 dentists on every corner. A chick I was with last week teeth were so perfect that I had to ask her if they were real. Flat asses? What Thailand is this? I prefer Thailand over PI because Thais do not have flat asses and Filipinas do. I also have to question you being a LA veteran but your first post is this one with a bunch of questions along with saying you do not have time to research for a trip you plan on throwing a bunch of money and 2 weeks of your time into. 9 times out of 10 when this happens it is a troll post.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1853303]Also, if one is used to Brazilian P4P service levels (as it appears the person who initially posed the question about Pattaya vs. Bangkok is), he may be disappointed in the average go-go or beer bar girl's service. On the other hand, the PSE soapies come much closer, and IMHO sometimes exceed, what one would come to expect in Brazil.[/QUOTE]Are you using PSE to mean Porn Star Experience or something else? Because I have had a few soapies in my day and nothing about them even whispered Porn Star Experience. Now I do recommend that everyone try a soapy or 2 their first time in Thailand, but most people in my circle have not bothered to be repeat customers. That says a lot considering most people in my circle are Brazil veterans.

There is also nothing about mechanical soapy service that reminds me of P4P service in Brazil. In 4X4 Termas in Rio I would bring my video camera and be able to film a REAL 2 on 1 PSE with a couple of Rio's finest; and there was none of that extra tip stuff that guys like to pay for pictures included.

I do agree with you that if a person is traveling all that way then it only makes sense to try both cities to see which they like better. Different strokes for different folks; some like Pepsi and some like Coke; some hoes will shallow and others will choke; but they are all down for that daddy long stroke.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1853322]Are you using PSE to mean Porn Star Experience or something else? Because I have had a few soapies in my day and nothing about them even whispered Porn Star Experience. Now I do recommend that everyone try a soapy or 2 their first time in Thailand, but most people in my circle have not bothered to be repeat customers. That says a lot considering most people in my circle are Brazil veterans.

There is also nothing about mechanical soapy service that reminds me of P4P service in Brazil. In 4X4 Termas in Rio I would bring my video camera and be able to film a REAL 2 on 1 PSE with a couple of Rio's finest; and there was none of that extra tip stuff that guys like to pay for pictures included.

I do agree with you that if a person is traveling all that way then it only makes sense to try both cities to see which they like better. Different strokes for different folks; some like Pepsi and some like Coke; some hoes will shallow and others will choke; but they are all down for that daddy long stroke.[/QUOTE]Sorry, in editing the post I typed soapy where I meant oil massage. I agree there is no such thing as a PSE soapy, and indeed most of the time service in a soapy is mechanical and far from PSE. Having said that, it is something one should try if for no other reason as to see this type of venue, which can be a bit overwhelming when first visiting.

Unfortunately, the window to edit my earlier post has closed. Hopefully anyone who reads it will also read this correction.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1853322]Are you using PSE to mean Porn Star Experience or something else? Because I have had a few soapies in my day and nothing about them even whispered Porn Star Experience. Now I do recommend that everyone try a soapy or 2 their first time in Thailand, but most people in my circle have not bothered to be repeat customers. That says a lot considering most people in my circle are Brazil veterans.[/QUOTE]Like you say, I don't think so! I had a soapy in Bangkok at Nataree. Was interesting and fun, but I have no desire to do another one. Now my oily at Snow White was a true PSE, and even included anal, which I found challenging to get in Thailand at least from the go-go girls. Oh, and lest I forget, hardcore Brazil veteran here hahaha!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1853322]Are you using PSE to mean Porn Star Experience or something else? Because I have had a few soapies in my day and nothing about them even whispered Porn Star Experience. Now I do recommend that everyone try a soapy or 2 their first time in Thailand, but most people in my circle have not bothered to be repeat customers. That says a lot considering most people in my circle are Brazil veterans.

There is also nothing about mechanical soapy service that reminds me of P4P service in Brazil. In 4X4 Termas in Rio I would bring my video camera and be able to film a REAL 2 on 1 PSE with a couple of Rio's finest; and there was none of that extra tip stuff that guys like to pay for pictures included.

I do agree with you that if a person is traveling all that way then it only makes sense to try both cities to see which they like better. Different strokes for different folks; some like Pepsi and some like Coke; some hoes will shallow and others will choke; but they are all down for that daddy long stroke.[/QUOTE]Wish I could have gone to Brazil in the heyday!

Coming to Bangkok in June. I only use cash. Is it best to exchange in Bangkok for the best rates? If so which would be the best banks to use. It's £'s sterling. Thanks for any info.

[QUOTE=Markly2;1853657]Coming to Bangkok in June. I only use cash. Is it best to exchange in Bangkok for the best rates? If so which would be the best banks to use. It's 's sterling. Thanks for any info.[/QUOTE]Any where except the airport. Get enought o get to town. 500 baht should leave you a little extra assuming you are in before 6 pm. Otherwise you might need 5000 baht to get you through the night. In town Super rich and the exchange place around soi 7 are usually the best rats. There are many others though. Ask at your hotel for where they are located.

[QUOTE=Mackin;1853678]around soi 7 are usually the best rats. There are many others though.[/QUOTE]The rats on Soi 6 are pretty impressive too!

[QUOTE=Markly2;1853657]Coming to Bangkok in June. I only use cash. Is it best to exchange in Bangkok for the best rates? If so which would be the best banks to use. It's 's sterling. Thanks for any info.[/QUOTE]Worst is at the airport. You will really get skinned there.

Next are banks. They have a large spread between buy and sell rates.

Your best bet are the independent exchange booths. Watch out for those that are close to banks and actually are part of the bank and use the bank's rates.

Superrich offers very good rates. Not far away from Soi Cowboy on the opposite site of the Asoke crossroad is a small exchange booth that has rates very close to those of Superrich. (see [URL]https://goo.gl/maps/jEnxNAANEju[/URL] "Asoke Money Exchange" on Google maps).

Also, the rate for larger valued notes is better: don't exchange 10 GBP notes, go for the largest available.

[QUOTE=SrChivo;1852537]Well seasoned veteran in central and south America regions plenty of times. Looking to plan with a friend 7 to 14 days in Thailand. I am a very busy small business owner and looking for seasoned info from veterans of Thailand. I do have much time to RTFF but I am trying.

Anyone recommend what city to visit 1st and what length of time? Any must sees? I've seen plenty of videos of the walking street. I like Latinas myself but will indulge on Thailand for a trip and see how it goes. I the flat asses and bad teeth.

Whats everyone's preferred mode of transportation? Any issues with public water system or is it bottled water all the way like Ecuador? Thanks in advance and I know some place there is a newbie page but I haven't found it.[/QUOTE]Thais tend to have decent teeth and round-ish asses, although not like most Latinas I know. If you're looking for J-Lo you'll be disappointed.

You must decide your objectives. If it's to have as much sex as possible you'll want to do things one way. If you want to experience the country, the culture (to the extent possible in 2 weeks) and also have some fun on the side, you'll want to do things another way.

If you just want to bang away at night and sleep during the day, go to Pattaya. I guess everybody should see it once, but it's not for everybody and a lot of veterans avoid the place simply due to the hard-core sleaze factor. But, others love it.

If you like beach-y stuff along with some nightlife, but don't like the extra expense of one of the islands, try Hua Hin. Decent beach, decent bar section of town, you'll find somebody to keep you company.

I like Bangkok because there is a shitload of things to do and see. "A show with everything but Yul Brynner" about sums it up. Lots of nice ladies but much more.

So, respond with your objectives and I'm sure somebody can assist you.

As far as transportation, in Bangkok it's the subway and skytrain for most things, taxis for others. But you must try a tuk-tuk. Pattaya is the songthaew (baht bus). Up north it's the samlor. The buses in BKK can be a bit challenging for a noob.

Bottled water is everywhere and cheap. Use it. The locals do.

On the water thing my understanding is that within Bangkok the water is safe as this was a big priority of the thai red cross back in the day. That being said I don't know when you would really be drinking tap water as almost every hotel leaves bottles in the room everyday and its only 7 THB at 7-11. Certainly there isn't any problem when you are out or with ice, it's not like mexico.

[QUOTE=SrChivo;1852537]Well seasoned veteran in central and south America regions plenty of times. Looking to plan with a friend 7 to 14 days in Thailand. I am a very busy small business owner and looking for seasoned info from veterans of Thailand. I do have much time to RTFF but I am trying.

Anyone recommend what city to visit 1st and what length of time? Any must sees? I've seen plenty of videos of the walking street. I like Latinas myself but will indulge on Thailand for a trip and see how it goes. I the flat asses and bad teeth.

Whats everyone's preferred mode of transportation? Any issues with public water system or is it bottled water all the way like Ecuador? Thanks in advance and I know some place there is a newbie page but I haven't found it.[/QUOTE]