Manila

[QUOTE=Macho Dik;1221674]using up some one time in reading this nonsense feed back for my nonsense questions.[/QUOTE]You can save some time by reading the "Reports of Distinction" thread first. The general forums have a lot of ya ya junk in between the good nuggets!

[QUOTE=I'm Punter; 1221538]Thanks all, for the suggestions.

So Malate is my first stop. I seem to be reading a lot in the forum about Hussy's. Might check that out before MBC.[/QUOTE]Hussy's is OK, not great. Similar to the several barfine places on Mabini (near corner United Nations) , I think one of them is called "Rooster's"?

[QUOTE=I'm Punter; 1221538]Thanks all, for the suggestions.

So Malate is my first stop. I seem to be reading a lot in the forum about Hussy's. Might check that out before MBC. Still have to decide on where to stay. Thats next.

Great forum, mongers. I'm doing my homework, RTFF is well worth spending time on. As a newcomer, I am sure I'll need the guidance of the wise ones from time to time, but I'll try not to present laundry lists of questions.[/QUOTE]The advice you got from Westcoaster was PERFECT for your purpose. Don't overcomplicate things. MBC at 7am beets all those other bars put together during happy time. 90% of the activity in the area is at MBC.

First off, I would like to thank everyone for the advice that I received on this forum. Because of you, my recent trip was a success. Your information does work!

I arrived in Manila and stayed at the Copacabana Apartment, across the street from EDSA, and it wasn't too bad. Had a nice room with lots of space.

First night, went over to EDSA and went to a couple of the clubs. After a few beers, I met a fairly nice looking gal who didn't try to rob me blind. We went back to my room and the second the door was closed, she was on me like white on rice and did not let up. After a couple times, I finally passed out and woke up with her blowing me again. After she finished I went to take a shower and next thing I knew, she was in the shower with me wanting it again. I admit, I am not Brad Pitt, but this gal never gave me a chance to breath. Never had anyone this into me like that, but later I found out why. After I seen her off in her cab, I went back to my room and noticed that my room seemed to have been searched. Almost every drawer and cabinet were opened or went through. Luckily they have some very high cabinets that were not easy to get to and I stashed my valuables there. That was one of the only spaces that seemed not to be searched. I even put a tooth pic in the corner (seen that in a movie) and it was still there. I double check my stuff and everything was there, unmolested. Because of this forum, I knew beforehand to hide my stuff. Thanks for that guys! Now that I remember, she was sorta shocked when I tipped her, I took the money from under the insert of my shoe. Also looking back, she never let me alone so I could hide or put away anything I had on my person. She must of thought she had an easy mark and could take me for everything I had after I passed out.

That afternoon, I ventured over to the Mall of Asia where I was scanning for some mall poon and get some supplies when I walked by a couple of cuties. I gave them the "Hey Girl Smile" and walked by, not thinking anything about it. As I came out of the hardware store (wanted a new lock for my suitcase (more security!) I seen them again. And after seeing them a few more times, I started to get worried that they were following me for some bad reason, so I thought I would confront them. But then I couldn't find them. So I went into the Red Mango, to get some yoghurt to cool off when I seen them again. I made eye contact with one of them and waved for her to come and join me. They looked at each other for a minute and then joined me. I ask them why they were following me and they told me their stories. I bought them both a yoghurt and chatted with them. They both just came from the American Embassy, where they both had interviews to get visas to come to America to get married and they were just wasting time before they went back home. Then I asked them why they were following me. One of them told me that they were looking to have some fun but didn't have much money and thought I could help them out. There it was, White Guy ATM! So I thought I would have some fun with them and ask what were they willing to do. That's when they dropped the bomb! They told me that they didn't want money, just looking for a good time while in Manila. It was getting late so, we caught a cab and asked the cabbie if there were any Disco or KTV bars nearby. He was very helpful and recommended a place called Cowboys.

Cowboys isn't too bad, Loud music and lots of hot girls. Then there was me and these two hotties, drinking and dancing the night away. Never had so much fun! While chatting with them after a few drinks, they started asking me about what two girls would do with one guy. I jokingly said, come back to my hotel and I will show them, they accepted. I was floored! REALLY! Holy Crap, I was on cloud nine. So around midnight we went back to my hotel, no problem with the doorman, just slipped him a nice tip and up to the room. Now the disappointing part for me, every time I started to think I was in heaven, one would say "what should I do now?" And I had to direct them to what they needed to do. They were not virgins but they were virgins to this. Around 4am, they said they needed to get back to their hotels to get their stuff, one had a 6am flight and the other an 8am back to their home provinces. I gave them my email and told them if they wanted to get in touch with me when they got in country. We will see what will happen there because they both will be within 200 miles of where I live. I tried to give them some money but they would not take it, so I slipped 1000php in their purses when they weren't looking. I could of gotten off with out giving them anything, but I had fun and I wanted to do something for them. So I walked them down and gave them cab fare (they took that) and off they went. Haven't gotten an email yet, but ya never know.

Now a few minutes after I get back to my room, there is a knock on the door. Opened up and it was the girl from the first night, she said she was just coming down the stairs when she seen me get into the elevator so she thought we could hook up again. I thought it was a little strange she just happened to be in the same hotel I was in but, with how close it is to EDSA, why not. I told her to shower first because I didn't want anything her last bed-mate had, and she did not hesitate, stripped naked and into the shower. While she was in the shower, I quickly hookerproofed my room, put my toothpick back in the corner of the cabinet and did some snooping of my own. I don't usually like looking into any woman's purse, but I thought, WTF, she would look in my wallet. I seen she had a couple 1000php waded up inside and a few rubbers. I took a couple of the rubbers and one of the 1000php (I will explain later) out of her purse and put the rubbers on the night stand for our use. (Why use up mine?) She hollered for me to join her in the shower and I went in and had her bathe me, so that I was "clean up to her standards", then to the bed, where she rocked my world again and again. Finally around 7am, I escorted her down to a cab, where I gave her back the 1000php and seen her on her way. I tipped the doorman again who was giving me a look of approval.

I figured it was breakfast time so I went up to the cafe where I ran into another American guy there. As he was leaving, he walked over to me and asked how sloppy seconds were. That's when I told him "Not bad, especially when I pay with his money!" He sat and we traded a few stories. Asked if I wanted to hang with him later. I declined because I had a rendezvous set up later that day with some gal from DIA, then I was going to Legaspi the next morning.

Pictures are so deceiving! The girl from DIA was like 46 and really old looking. She looked like she had been over used and put away. But I was already cornered, so I offered to buy dinner (she ate like a pig) , so during dinner, I excused myself and slipped out the back door. I had to block her on DIA because she would not stop sending me messages. I did slip a couple hundred pesos in her pocket before I left. Thought that would cover her cab fare (I prepaid for dinner, so I didn't stiff her with the bill). She said I owed her more because she spent a lot of money getting ready for our date, not including her time wasted chatting with me for the last couple months. Last thing I messaged to her was maybe if she didn't lie about her age, use someone else's pic, and deceived me, we could have had a nice time. I am not into granny bumping! Haven't heard from her since.

Thought about going back to EDSA but didn't want to run into the first girl again and worry about hiding my stuff again, so I just went back to the hotel and rest up for my trip to Bicol (will report about that trip in Other Areas). The doorman gave me a look like,"what no girl tonight?" I just tipped him and say, I need rest. He laughed and called me a Crazy American.

Sorry for being long winded but I wanted to give ya'll all the good details of my trip to Manila. Next time I want to try MBC. Lot of good tips from you guys. Didn't want to travel too far away from the area I know. More comfortable now, will venture farther next time. Again Thanks everyone for the post and reports

Great first report!

[QUOTE=Tmnb26;1221736]After a few beers, I met a fairly nice looking gal who didn't try to rob me blind. We went back to my room and the second the door was closed, she was on me like white on rice and did not let up. After a couple times, I finally passed out and woke up with her blowing me again. After she finished I went to take a shower and next thing I knew, she was in the shower with me wanting it again. I admit, I am not Brad Pitt, but this gal never gave me a chance to breath.[/QUOTE]Welcome to pilipines, the nawty wild west!

[QUOTE=Tmnb26;1221736]I bought them both a yoghurt and chatted with them. They both just came from the American Embassy, where they both had interviews to get visas to come to America to get married and they were just wasting time before they went back home. Then I asked them why they were following me. One of them told me that they were looking to have some fun but didn't have much money and thought I could help them out. There it was, White Guy ATM! So I thought I would have some fun with them and ask what were they willing to do. That's when they dropped the bomb! They told me that they didn't want money, just looking for a good time while in Manila.[/QUOTE]Welcome to pilipines, the nawty wild west!

[QUOTE=Tmnb26;1221736]Cowboys isn't too bad, Loud music and lots of hot girls. Then there was me and these two hotties, drinking and dancing the night away. Never had so much fun! While chatting with them after a few drinks, they started asking me about what two girls would do with one guy. I jokingly said, come back to my hotel and I will show them, they accepted. I was floored! REALLY! Holy Crap, I was on cloud nine. So around midnight we went back to my hotel, no problem with the doorman, just slipped him a nice tip and up to the room.[/QUOTE]Welcome to pilipines, the nawty wild west!

[QUOTE=Tmnb26;1221736]Now a few minutes after I get back to my room, there is a knock on the door. Opened up and it was the girl from the first night, she said she was just coming down the stairs when she seen me get into the elevator so she thought we could hook up again. I thought it was a little strange she just happened to be in the same hotel I was in but, with how close it is to EDSA, why not. I told her to shower first because I didn't want anything her last bed-mate had, and she did not hesitate, stripped naked and into the shower. She hollered for me to join her in the shower and I went in and had her bathe me, so that I was "clean up to her standards", then to the bed, where she rocked my world again and again. Finally around 7am, I escorted her down to a cab, where I gave her back the 1000php and seen her on her way. I tipped the doorman again who was giving me a look of approval.[/QUOTE]Welcome to pilipines, the nawty wild west!

[QUOTE=Tmnb26;1221736]Pictures are so deceiving! The girl from DIA was like 46 and really old looking. She looked like she had been over used and put away.[/QUOTE]Welcome to pilipines, the nawty wild west!

[QUOTE=Tmnb26;1221736]The doorman gave me a look like,"what no girl tonight?" I just tipped him and say, I need rest. He laughed and called me a Crazy American.[/QUOTE]Welcome to pilipines, the nawty wild west!

[QUOTE=Pictures are so deceiving! The girl from DIA was like 46 and really old looking. She looked like she had been over used and put away. , I excused myself and slipped out the back door. I. She said I owed her more because she spent a lot of money getting ready for our date, not including her time wasted chatting with me for the last couple months. Last thing I messaged to her was maybe if she didn't lie about her age, use someone else's pic, and deceived me, [/QUOTE]Wow. Now these ladies who have nothing else to do with their day and time (hobbies, watching tv, eating, jollibee) think that their time is valuable. Thats a classic new one. Well they surely will try everything.

Not sure how cool it is to steal from a girl and then repay her with what she's previously earned, but then we all beat to different drums.

Its a handy trick to always have seals or the self sealings plastic ties that you can use on your bags. No one can enter them without breaking the seal or the tie. Works as well as the good ol toothpick test.

[QUOTE=Pictures are so deceiving! The girl from DIA was like 46 and really old looking. She looked like she had been over used and put away. , I excused myself and slipped out the back door. I. She said I owed her more because she spent a lot of money getting ready for our date, not including her time wasted chatting with me for the last couple months. Last thing I messaged to her was maybe if she didn't lie about her age, use someone else's pic, and deceived me, [/QUOTE]Wow. Now these ladies who have nothing else to do with their day and time (hobbies, watching tv, eating, jollibee) think that their time is valuable. Thats a classic new one. Well they surely will try everything.

Not sure how cool it is to steal from a girl and then repay her with what she's previously earned, but then we all beat to different drums.

Its a handy trick to always have seals or the self sealings plastic ties that you can use on your bags. No one can enter them without breaking the seal or the tie. Works as well as the good ol toothpick test.

While in Manila (November 2011) , I was surfing the Internet and found a Filipino musician forum website with a very informative posting on Manila's massage parlor scene. Since posting a link to another forum might not be allowed, do a Google search with the key words "StarFleet, Philmusic" and it'll bring up 'All About Spa, Massage and other Relaxing Treatment. ' The detailed information is on page 11, reply 271, by 'waya-drum' down at the bottom of the page. Most of the posts on the forum page is in Tagalog except the one that I 'm referencing.

Before I found the posting, I was going to Air Force One, but the posting identified the nearby StarFleet as having lower rates. I caught a taxi and insisted the driver use the meter or else I was going to bail out. The driver pissed and moaned about the heavy traffic, the long distance, the high cost of gasoline, and his cost to rent the taxi which all added up to him not making any money using the meter. I offered to give him a good tip if he would use the meter and he agreed. The taxi driver tried to get me to go to a closer and cheaper massage parlor or a boarding house (brothel?) in Makati. He said I could get a girl at the boarding house back to my hotel room for an all-nighter for 5, 000 pesos. I declined and kept him pointed toward StarFleet.

The final metered rate was 120 pesos, but traffic at 7:30 PM was horrendous so I gave him 200 pesos. I now understand why taxi drivers don't want to use their meter.

StarFleet is located on the 3rd floor via an elevator. There's a security doorman at the entry to give you directions. The girls are in two separate viewing rooms. One is the VIP girls whose services cost nearly twice as the regular girls. There were eight girls in the VIP room. The second viewing room had about 15 girls. I didn't think the VIP girls were anymore prettier than the regular (but they are younger) girls so I picked a regular.

The cost for a massage with a regular girl was 850 pesos for 90 minutes. The girl said the extra service would be 1, 000 pesos, but it would be up to me.

The massage was ok. The full service was great. The girl did not short change me on time or service so I gave her 1, 300 pesos. She hinted that she was expecting 2, 000 pesos given the quality of services she provided. I couldn't argue with her over her services so I capitulated and gave her 2, 000 pesos which made her happy and I wanted her happy in case I returned. In total, I spent 2, 850 pesos (US$65). The cost is about what I would have paid or less for lady drinks and to bar-fine a girl out of a Manila club plus tip.

I'm a fan of the Thai "fishbowl " massage parlors and this is the closest that I could find in the Philippines. It's not the same quality, but it was enough to satisfy me. If I had more time in Manila, I would have liked to check out the other "relaxing" establishments identified by "waya-drum."

[QUOTE=Yujin;1221886]. The massage was ok. The full service was great. The girl did not short change me on time or service so I gave her 1, 300 pesos. She hinted that she was expecting 2, 000 pesos given the quality of services she provided. I couldn't argue with her over her services so I capitulated and gave her 2, 000 pesos which made her happy and I wanted her happy in case I returned. In total, I spent 2, 850 pesos (US$65). The cost is about what I would have paid or less for lady drinks and to bar-fine a girl out of a Manila club plus tip.[/QUOTE]Great well-written report Yujin.

This is a great "heads-up" for board members.

What you paid is way LESS than you could expect to pay at any of the bars along Burgos Street these days, and ESPECIALLY when you factor in the lady drinks plus all the potential dramas that you can get with BGs and mamasans etc.

I am a big fan of these sorts of places because the price is fixed and even the expected tip is reasonable, the girls are usually well-trained, surroundings are mostly pleasant, and once completed you walk out with no further concerns.

[QUOTE=Gangles; 1221090]Like the other guys, thanks Levdog for a very refreshing post. I am looking for this kind of situation and environment myself.

Can you tell me where you picked up the two girls? Were they SW, or in the mall, or in the hotels?

Gangles[/QUOTE]The girls I picked up work in front of the short term hotels. The best part of being the only foreigner is that there was nobody shoving viagra or sunglasses in your face. Right now I am in cebu, staying in my favorite place, downtown Colon. If I come across any unique places in cebu city or if anybody has any information besides the usual haunts I would love to hear about them.

[QUOTE=Tmnb26; 1221736]I arrived in Manila and stayed at the Copacabana Apartment, across the street from EDSA, and it wasn't too bad. Had a nice room with lots of space.

First night, went over to EDSA and went to a couple of the clubs. After a few beers, I met a fairly nice looking gal who didn't try to rob me blind. We went back to my room and the second the door was closed, she was on me like white on rice and did not let up. After a couple times, I finally passed out and woke up with her blowing me again. After she finished I went to take a shower and next thing I knew, she was in the shower with me wanting it again. I admit, I am not Brad Pitt, but this gal never gave me a chance to breath. Never had anyone this into me like that, but later I found out why. After I seen her off in her cab, I went back to my room and noticed that my room seemed to have been searched. Almost every drawer and cabinet were opened or went through. Luckily they have some very high cabinets that were not easy to get to and I stashed my valuables there. That was one of the only spaces that seemed not to be searched. I even put a tooth pic in the corner (seen that in a movie) and it was still there. I double check my stuff and everything was there, unmolested. Because of this forum, I knew beforehand to hide my stuff. Thanks for that guys! Now that I remember, she was sorta shocked when I tipped her, I took the money from under the insert of my shoe. Also looking back, she never let me alone so I could hide or put away anything I had on my person. She must of thought she had an easy mark and could take me for everything I had after I passed out.

Now a few minutes after I get back to my room, there is a knock on the door. Opened up and it was the girl from the first night, she said she was just coming down the stairs when she seen me get into the elevator so she thought we could hook up again. I thought it was a little strange she just happened to be in the same hotel I was in but, with how close it is to EDSA, why not. I told her to shower first because I didn't want anything her last bed-mate had, and she did not hesitate, stripped naked and into the shower. While she was in the shower, I quickly hookerproofed my room, put my toothpick back in the corner of the cabinet and did some snooping of my own. I don't usually like looking into any woman's purse, but I thought, WTF, she would look in my wallet. I seen she had a couple 1000php waded up inside and a few rubbers. I took a couple of the rubbers and one of the 1000php (I will explain later) out of her purse and put the rubbers on the night stand for our use. (Why use up mine?) She hollered for me to join her in the shower and I went in and had her bathe me, so that I was "clean up to her standards", then to the bed, where she rocked my world again and again. Finally around 7am, I escorted her down to a cab, where I gave her back the 1000php and seen her on her way. I tipped the doorman again who was giving me a look of approval.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. I think the mall pickup was awesome. In regards to your EDSA girl, I'm not sure what to think. I wasn't in your room to know, but I really question whether a woman all over you like that would really be robbing you and all that. Plus, it wasn't like she was a freelancer and you may not find her again, you knew what bar she worked at. I'm wondering if you are mistaken to think that she attempted to steal from you or if maybe you left it that way or someone else pilfered through your drawers while you were outside of your room. You did say you were in an apartment, so maybe there is a security issue there. I'm not saying she didn't do it, but to come back to the scene of the crime after you would have figured it out, just doesn't make any sense to me. It's not shocking for a Filipina to be that horny. And just a word of advice, even though she probably didn't realize what you did in regards to giving her own money back, it's a somewhat risky move. It's not really worth the risk I believe to send a message like that if someone decides to retaliate back there. You have no protections.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1221862]Its a handy trick to always have seals or the self sealings plastic ties that you can use on your bags. No one can enter them without breaking the seal or the tie. Works as well as the good ol toothpick test.[/QUOTE]I simply woudn't stay in a place without proper safety-box. That's a must for me, otherwise I don't consider the hotel.

One of my gf's has long had an interest in finding a gal so she can suck her boobs, preferably big ones. She's says she doesn't want to do any more than that but who knows.

Anyways I'm taking her to EDSA (she will wait outside) with me on Sunday night to find a lady who will be ok with that.

Do any of the EDSA regulars know the names / bars / of a girl who would be good with that.

We will probably all go to Sogo for ST. If girl has a nice rack I may try and get on one end of the teet whilst my girl is on the other LOL.

I put a post on the Cebu forum asking about things to do for New Years and it seems that it is dead there. Any ideas for Manila on New Years? Do all the girls leave here also to go home? Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

I want to thank everyone who replied back to my first trip report.

As for a few of the comments, I guess I never seen things the way you guys look at it. It may have been the way I posted it (wording) or the way you read it, but ya, if I read it from another perspective, I can see why you said what you said.

[QUOTE=Key Master;1221912]I wasn't in your room to know, but I really question whether a woman all over you like that would really be robbing you and all that. Plus, it wasn't like she was a freelancer and you may not find her again, you knew what bar she worked at. I'm wondering if you are mistaken to think that she attempted to steal from you or if maybe you left it that way or someone else pilfered through your drawers while you were outside of your room. You did say you were in an apartment, so maybe there is a security issue there. I'm not saying she didn't do it, but to come back to the scene of the crime after you would have figured it out, just doesn't make any sense to me. It's not shocking for a Filipina to be that horny.[/Quote][QUOTE=FreebieFan;1221862]Its a handy trick to always have seals or the self sealings plastic ties that you can use on your bags. No one can enter them without breaking the seal or the tie. Works as well as the good ol toothpick test.[/Quote]As for my room being searched, first off, it was an apartment style hotel, and other than house keeping, I had the only key. I believe the piffling was done while I was asleep and / or in the shower. When I checked in, I did a full inspection of the room, to find hiding spots and to know what I have available for my stay. Like I said, it was a feeling I had. May it be true or false, things seemed moved and the next morning while she was there, if felt like she was keeping me from noticing anything but her. Never got that feeling with anyone else. And thanks for the plastic tie trick, will use that one in the future.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1221862]Not sure how cool it is to steal from a girl and then repay her with what she's previously earned, but then we all beat to different drums.[/Quote][QUOTE=Key Master;1221912]And just a word of advice, even though she probably didn't realize what you did in regards to giving her own money back, it's a somewhat risky move. It's not really worth the risk I believe to send a message like that if someone decides to retaliate back there. You have no protections.[/Quote]As for the money issue, I guess you are right, didn't look at it like that at the time. I seen it as, if she didn't see me, she wouldn't have made anymore money and she approached me at my hotel, I wasn't looking for company. But looking at it now, I can see how that could be taken. Thanks for the advice!

Also thinking about it, I didn't get any pics of this girls. Mental pictures don't help you guys. Getting the camera out would have revealed my hiding spot. Didn't thing about it at the time, was into getting pleasure for myself than pleasure for you guys. Will be more considerate next time. Thanks Again!