Puerto Plata

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1787861]The difference is that in Egypt and Tunisia [U]all[/U] staple foods were unaffordable so poor people became increasingly malnourished. In the DR, even if platanos were 63 pesos (and they were available for 15 pesos in my local supermarket this Wednesday), there are plenty of other alternatives, some very similar. I bought rulos and guineo verde last week at 5 pesos each. Both cook and taste like platanos and have the same nutritional value. Prices of other basic foods like rice, maize, and bread have only increased marginally, in line with inflation.[/QUOTE]From an article I read about this subject:

"The spiraling price of one plantain, now at an unprecedented RD $30 (US $0. 66) depending on size, on Wednesday prompted Agriculture minister Angel Estevez to chide: "Buy potatoes at eight pesos the pound instead. ".

[QUOTE=BrotherP;1787847]There's been a lot of dialogue between guys I know about 2 k being the new 1500. Aqui es me dos centavos. A year or so ago, the dollar was worth 42 pesos, which made 1500 pesos about $35. At 45 pesos 1500 is 33 $. But now everybody wants 2 k. Which is $45! Imo a $10 price increase in a year isn't inflation. It's a price increase. I can't see how a 3 peso increase offsets a $10 price increase. It's seems to me that a lot of chicas get most of there money from gringos. Pro and semi pros anyway. How can a broke chica dice 1500 no es nada? LOL. I think the price increase is BS. Solo me dos centavos.[/QUOTE]The problem is that chica prices don't change gradually like other prices. I don't know how long the going rate was 1500, but it appears to be at least a few years. Three years ago the rate was 39 to 1, 5 years ago 36 to 1. When you add in 3 to 5% inflation per year, it is much closer to a correction than an actual price increase.

The problem is when you look only at the short term. Probably 2000 will be the rate for 4 or 5 years before jumping to 2500. Right now 2 k is a plus for the chicas, in 4 years it will be a bargain for the mongers.

[QUOTE=JimJames;1787894]From an article I read about this subject:

"The spiraling price of one plantain, now at an unprecedented RD $30 (US $0. 66) depending on size, on Wednesday prompted Agriculture minister Angel Estevez to chide: "Buy potatoes at eight pesos the pound instead. ".[/QUOTE]The Dominican govt talks bullshit 90% of the time, and even when they do not, they get misreported by the semi-literate Dominican media.

My usual guy has just called with his camioneta and had platanos for sale at 7 pesos. On the small side of medium, but even if you reckon it takes two to equal a big, fat platano, that is only 14 pesos. This is in Pto Pta city. They should be cheaper in the campo.

Decent potatoes are 36 pesos a pound (though half price at La Sirena on Wednesdays). I have bought cheaper but had to throw away a third.

These government ministers have no clue what goes on in the real DR. They eat in expensive restaurants, or if at home they have servants to buy the food, who probably inflate the bills to supplement their low wages.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1787901]The problem is that chica prices don't change gradually like other prices. I don't know how long the going rate was 1500, but it appears to be at least a few years. Three years ago the rate was 39 to 1, 5 years ago 36 to 1. When you add in 3 to 5% inflation per year, it is much closer to a correction than an actual price increase.

The problem is when you look only at the short term. Probably 2000 will be the rate for 4 or 5 years before jumping to 2500. Right now 2 k is a plus for the chicas, in 4 years it will be a bargain for the mongers.[/QUOTE]Sometimes some things seem like a bargain in the DR. Hotel rooms in resort towns, for example, will often be cheaper than hotel rooms alongside the highway in the US by the time you factor in taxes and add-ONS.

If chicas are using their earnings to buy plantains (really desperate), their asking price will probably be lower than if they are buying imported goods. The peso does not go far when you need to purchase imported items like Pampers, baby formula, medicines (some are made locally), cell phones, school, books, etc.

All you can do is offer what you want to pay for a service, or what you can afford to pay, and then if you don't get what you want, try offering more. 2000 pesos is still less than $50, and if you think you can get the same thing in the US for less money, which I don't think you can, then ask yourself if it is legal in the US and what the consequences of unlawful activity might be. It amazes me though, that people travel all the way to the DR for legal paid sex, and then run the risk of legal problems by ingesting illegal recreational substances.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1787948]Sometimes some things seem like a bargain in the DR. Hotel rooms in resort towns, for example, will often be cheaper than hotel rooms alongside the highway in the US by the time you factor in taxes and add-ONS.

If chicas are using their earnings to buy plantains (really desperate), their asking price will probably be lower than if they are buying imported goods. The peso does not go far when you need to purchase imported items like Pampers, baby formula, medicines (some are made locally), cell phones, school, books, etc.

All you can do is offer what you want to pay for a service, or what you can afford to pay, and then if you don't get what you want, try offering more. 2000 pesos is still less than $50, and if you think you can get the same thing in the US for less money, which I don't think you can, then ask yourself if it is legal in the US and what the consequences of unlawful activity might be. It amazes me though, that people travel all the way to the DR for legal paid sex, and then run the risk of legal problems by ingesting illegal recreational substances.[/QUOTE]No complaints from me. If the chicas are all driving new BMWs and vacationing in the Riviera, then the price is probably too high. But when many of them are living in what would barely pass as a shack in the US, trying to support a family, I'm not going to complain about spending an extra $15. And if my money goes to one who is living better than average I'm happy for her.

Too many are just interested in the cheapest pussy they can find, and if some toothless, diseased old addict is selling it for 200 p, then they get upset that 18 year old, clean and gorgeous girls won't take the same price.

Puerto Plata's reputation.

Some of what I am going to share is old news to you veterans but it is new information to me so I will share with those who are less informed. I was chatting with one of my Santiago chicas and she slammed Puerto Plata for having a bad reputation for PFP. Now we all know Sosua's reputation and how many chicas will not want to be seen there but Puerto Plata has a tainted reputation also.

Kviar is a perfect example, I have met chics who are working Kviar from different parts of the Island who will not go to Classicos in Sosua go figure? Also many of the high end chics in Kviar can get 3000+ without blinking. Of course there are slow nights during low season just like everyplace else but some Puerto Plata chics are eating very well. Another interesting fact is that some of my Puerto Plata network chics frequent Chalo's on Calle Diez why Seis. If you go to Chalos it looks like a regular Dominican spot because in fact it is, however there is subtle PFP presence if you know what to look for. Tenga cuidado because Chalos is like Kviar where all women aren't working but some are available for a price.

Some will say prostitution is available everywhere on the Island, this is true however there are specific venues in the Dominican Republic that stand out and Puerto Plata is one of them. It is an open secret throughout the Island that Puerto Plata has PFP available so much so women travel specifically for that purpose. Just like Sosua many chics do not want to do PFP in their hometowns but will gladly travel to make some pesos. In Puerto Plata you just have to know where to go and what to look for.

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Too many are just interested in the cheapest pussy they can find, and if some toothless, diseased old addict is selling it for 200 p, then they get upset that 18 year old, clean and gorgeous girls won't take the same price.[/QUOTE]That might be the case. I have never had much of a problem getting overcharged, because I am always willing to walk away if what is on offer does not match what I would like to pay. And I am never influence by alcohol.

However a lot will depend on factors like the personality of the monger, fluency in the language and so on. If you can make the girl think that having sex with you will be enjoyable, or at least easy, then you have won half the battle. If the demographics work against you, then you will have to work even harder. For example here in the US I sometimes in idle moments look at the advertising on Backpage for escorts, even though I have never been with one, and never will. I notice that some of them make specification restricting the age or ethnicity of customers they are willing to see. You would think one guy's money was as good as another's if you were in business, but apparently not. So you may not know if you fit the preferred profile of the chica, unless you investigate her preferences. So even the hardest core professionals have personal preferences. In the DR this is also likely to be the case. Personally I have worked in a field where I was required to carry out very detailed personal assessments of people whom I had just met, and form a trusting relationship with them very quickly, so obviously I try to transfer some of those skills to these kind of chica encounters. Other people have different skill sets, and you can never be sure that what works for one person will work the same for another. Some people may just end up having to pay more for the same thing.

If ever there was a country and an activity where the old saying "you get what you pay for" is a highly unreliable guide, it is the DR and P4 P. It is mainly said by those with more money than sense trying to justify their having overpaid.

I have had good and disappointing experiences for 500 pesos and for 3000 pesos. Less in the latter category, to be sure, but they sure pissed me off a lot more more afterwards.

A review of the exchange rate over the last five years, which covers my own experience in the Dominican Republic. Five years ago the exchange rate was roughly 35-to-1. At that rate, 1500 pesos equaled about $43 US. Now the exchange rate is roughly 45-to-1, and that 2000 pesos 'entry fee' equals a bit over $44 US.

Still a bargain, compared with the 'civilized world. '.

[QUOTE=Camaro1257;1788240]A review of the exchange rate over the last five years, which covers my own experience in the Dominican Republic. Five years ago the exchange rate was roughly 35-to-1. At that rate, 1500 pesos equaled about $43 US. Now the exchange rate is roughly 45-to-1, and that 2000 pesos 'entry fee' equals a bit over $44 US.

Still a bargain, compared with the 'civilized world. '.[/QUOTE]I see your point. Definitely still a bargin.

Hi guys,

Are all hotels in Puerto Plata chica friendly? Any recommendations where it is safe, clean and OK to take chicas without problems? I am planning a trip shortly to the area and this will be my first time. So any good info from the veterans of this forum will be appreciated.

[QUOTE=ElTiburon;1789351]I am planning a trip shortly to the area and this will be my first time. [/QUOTE]When you say Pto Pta, do you mean the city itself?

If so, any reason why, rather than Sosua?

I live in Pto Pta, and prefer it, but it is harder for a newbie get straight into the action than Sosua. Some knowledge of Spanish is a must unless you are staying at Blackbeards.

Also, when you say "first trip to the area", do you mean "first to the DR" or "first to the North Coast of the DR" or "first to Pto Pta city"?

Lomar is an adequate hotel in Pto Pta city. Cheap and cheerful. On the seafront. You will need to either hire a car or pay for taxis, or be prepared to ride the motoconchos. The latter are cheapest and most convenient, but some people think them too dangerous. I have made between five and ten thousand rides without problem, but I understand people's concern.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1789603]When you say Pto Pta, do you mean the city itself?

If so, any reason why, rather than Sosua?

I live in Pto Pta, and prefer it, but it is harder for a newbie get straight into the action than Sosua. Some knowledge of Spanish is a must unless you are staying at Blackbeards.

Also, when you say "first trip to the area", do you mean "first to the DR" or "first to the North Coast of the DR" or "first to Pto Pta city".

Lomar is an adequate hotel in Pto Pta city. Cheap and cheerful. On the seafront. You will need either a hire car or pay for taxis or be prepared to ride the motoconchos. The latter are cheapest and most convenient, but some people don't like them.[/QUOTE]There are a variety of small hotels, motels, and cabanas in Puerto Plata that no one on this board ever uses, for example Sunshine Motel, Mountainview, and one opposite the public hospital that I forget the name of. And another on a corner close to the bus terminals. I think the reason is that most of them are in noisy traffic locations and without the benefit of an ocean breeze. That is why guys usually go to Lomar.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1789609]There are a variety of small hotels, motels, and cabanas in Puerto Plata that no one on this board ever uses, for example Sunshine Motel, Mountainview, and one opposite the public hospital that I forget the name of. And another on a corner close to the bus terminals. I think the reason is that most of them are in noisy traffic locations and without the benefit of an ocean breeze. That is why guys usually go to Lomar.[/QUOTE]Lomar is more used to catering for gringos, but it is still basic. Similar is Portofino, under the same ownership, but even more isolated, except for access to Cristal, and not on the seafront. But I imagine anyone who has money to burn at Cristal would want a better hotel. Another one some gringos use is Hotel Kevin, which is slap in the centre of the city, yet allegedly not too noisy.

If you do stay at Lomar, be aware that hot water (if available) comes from the cold tap and vice versa. I have three visitors in a row caught out by that one.

All mentioned by Frannie and myself are chica friendly, but all are family or businessman's hotels not specialist monger places like you get in Sosua, so use reasonable discretion and some may not accept revolving-door chica changing.

All are cheap(ish) from US$25 to US$45.

But we still have to establish whether El Tiburon does really mean Puerto Plata city rather than "somewhere near POP airport". Of course, Sosua is much nearer the airport than Pto Pta City is.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1789637]Lomar is more used to catering for gringos, but it is still basic. Similar is Portofino, under the same ownership, but even more isolated, except for access to Cristal, and not on the seafront. But I imagine anyone who has money to burn at Cristal would want a better hotel. Another one some gringos use is Hotel Kevin, which is slap in the centre of the city, yet allegedly not too noisy.

If you do stay at Lomar, be aware that hot water (if available) comes from the cold tap and vice versa. I have three visitors in a row caught out by that one.

All mentioned by Frannie and myself are chica friendly, but all are family or businessman's hotels not specialist monger places like you get in Sosua, so use reasonable discretion and some may not accept revolving-door chica changing.

All are cheap(ish) from US$25 to US$45.

But we still have to establish whether El Tiburon does really mean Puerto Plata city rather than "somewhere near POP airport". Of course, Sosua is much nearer the airport than Pto Pta City is.[/QUOTE]Thank you Charles and Frannie. Appreciate your response.

I meant "somewhere near POP Airport". So wherever good and easy action is available. Reading through this forum, it looks like Sosua is the place in that area. Aim is to get "revolving door" chicas, lets say a new one each night. I am planning to stay there for about a week over the thanks giving weekend. I am an experienced monger and generally active in the Northwest Mexico area. This will be my first trip to DR. I speak Spanish fluently. I plan to fly into Santiago from Miami and from there to POP area. What are the safe options to get from Santiago airport to POP area?

Do any of the resort hotels allow "revolving door" chicas? Meaning they ignore who the customers bring over with them to their rooms.

Or does anyone rent decent apartment / condo for the week in that area?

I checked the website of Blackbeard and will keep it as a last option. I generally prefer to go to strip clubs and pick up or setup chicas from there or through some local guys. That way it will be less expensive than Blackbeard and probably more options.

Are there any "strip club" type joints available in that area, Mexico style? Where you can buy lap dances or private dance or invite chicas for drink and talk? Or some other similar setup? Idea is to invite chicas for drink and conversation and make a deal, if you like them. Prefer a place where you can get to pick and choose from many diff chicas, after talking over with them. Also, are the mongering areas in Sosua within walking distance of each other? Or are they far apart to have to take cabs to go from one to the other?

Again, appreciate your responses.

Thanks