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But you asked about the accuracy of the count, and there is some monkey business going on in that regard. A death is being counted as a COVID death if the person died after being exposed to the virus. Even if the person died in a car accident. So, the virus death count is people who died with the virus, not necessarily because of the virus.

Stage 4 cancer patients often finally succumb to pneumonia, but their death is generally attributed to the cancer, and the pneumonia may be mentioned as a contributing factor. If that same patient gets this virus, the death is listed as a COVID death. This is one reason why the rates of death for other causes is down since this pandemic started.
[/QUOTE]A very interesting take, and spot on in my opinion.

[QUOTE=Kib123;2447165]A very interesting take, and spot on in my opinion.[/QUOTE]If someone has a fatal stroke while driving, resulting in a serious accident, unless an autopsy is performed, cause of death: vehicle accident. Prior to classification and basic understanding of the novel coronavirus, deaths from pneumonia were ruled death from pneumonia. However, there was a spike in pneumonia deaths prior to the first known coronavirus deaths in the US. Several states are now reviewing deaths in January and February, because we now know the disease was spreading here before first suspected. Indiana has estimated this will add around 100 deaths. Other more populated states could see significantly more deaths.

Until recently it wasn't known that the virus causes other forms of death, including pulmonary embolism, stroke, heart failure among others. That also will likely add to the number.

Many states, my own included are not counting cases inside jails and prisons and are not counting nursing home deaths. In my county the actual deaths are 18% higher than what the state has recorded because 2 patients died before they could be transferred from the nursing home to the hospital.

The "they were near death anyway" or "they had an underlying condition" argument is brainless. If a person is lying in the street, having fallen Fri a 6th floor balcony, literally seconds away from death, and I shoot them in the head, do I go free? Or is it classified as murder? If a person with a few weeks left to live, dying from incurable, inoperable cancer, slips and falls and breaks their neck, is it ruled a cancer death?

Don't worry. They're going to force things to open back up in just a few weeks, only days in some places. And around the first of June we'll know whether or not that was the right thing to do.

[QUOTE=WhoShotJR;2446526]
Finally, deaths prior to the pandemic are being reviewed, and if there is some evidence that they may have had COVID-19, they are being added to the death tolls. So, if they died from the flu, they may be counted as a COVID-19 death since symptoms are so similar.

I have no special medical knowledge, or anything, but I suspect this virus will ultimately have a death rate less than 0.4%. Ultimately, I believe 80% of us will be exposed, and some won't even know it. Our reaction to shutting down a very large segment of the economy will also have a cost, both economic and psychological. I fear we are obsessed with saving lives (in the short term) and not realizing the true cost of extended shutdowns.[/QUOTE]You are onto something JR. See the link, [URL]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/04/24/fact-check-medicare-hospitals-paid-more-covid-19-patients-coronavirus/3000638001/[/URL].

"Hospital administrators might well want to see COVID-19 attached to a discharge summary or a death certificate. Why? Because if it's a straightforward, garden-variety pneumonia that a person is admitted to the hospital for if they're Medicare typically, the diagnosis-related group lump sum payment would be $5,000. But if it's COVID-19 pneumonia, then it's $13,000, and if that COVID-19 pneumonia patient ends up on a ventilator, it goes up to $39,000. ".

See this link: [URL]https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/hospital-payments-and-the-covid-19-death-count/[/URL].

In an interview with FactCheck. Org, however, Jensen said he did not think that hospitals were intentionally misclassifying cases for financial reasons.

So the same hospitals that charge $500 for an Aspirin and a $1000 for a stuffed Teddy bear would never, ever intentionally pressure doctors to say Covid for $39,000? LOL.

This factcheck. Org really does not seem to be getting any facts right IMO.

I don't know if the counts on Covid are high or low, but they sure as hell are far from 100% accurate, and that is a huge problem when it comes to making decisions about what to do in the future.

Just came back, pretty much same police state over there. Police roust the girls every so often and move them down the road. So you have to find a hottie and bang her before the cops roust.

There were a about 20-30 girls scattered in the various corners.

I banged 2 girls both girls that were kinda girl friendish knew my deal what I wanted. Both were young 20's SuperCuties. 1 white Colombian and a light skinned Venezuelan.

Pulled there hair while gagging them BBBJ. Banged them hard made them feel good, both having fun. Paid like $8-$10.

I will have one over to my place soon for 2 hour session. My target price to pay is about $35. Or $150,000 pesos or maybe less like $25.

News today of Avianca filing for bankruptcy.

Not a total surprise. KPMG has "substantial doubts" about the carrier's ability to exist a year from now.

My routes always had a couple of Avianca flights, it was convenient and economic. Not sure what the alternative is? Hopefully Qantas and Latam and the others can find one.

Kanga.

[QUOTE=KangarooTed;2450129]News today of Avianca filing for bankruptcy.

Not a total surprise. KPMG has "substantial doubts" about the carrier's ability to exist a year from now.

My routes always had a couple of Avianca flights, it was convenient and economic. Not sure what the alternative is? Hopefully Qantas and Latam and the others can find one.

Kanga.[/QUOTE]Going to be very interesting to see which ones stay alive, which ones start to code share with bigger carriers and which ones just belly up and take people's money and dissolve as RyanAir did. The good news though is that while it will be expensive for a while, competitors will come back, the nature of the free market economy.

[QUOTE=KangarooTed;2450129]News today of Avianca filing for bankruptcy.

Not a total surprise. KPMG has "substantial doubts" about the carrier's ability to exist a year from now.

My routes always had a couple of Avianca flights, it was convenient and economic. Not sure what the alternative is? Hopefully Qantas and Latam and the others can find one.

Kanga.[/QUOTE]Bankruptcy is just a means to erase debt. American Airlines declared bankruptcy and had $4 billion in cash. The planes are there. The debtors will take them over and sell them to a different airline or Avianca will come back restructured and leaner and meaner. Every major USA Legacy carrier has declared bankruptcy. The small budget ones like Jetblue, Spirit, and Southwest (not much of a budget airline anymore) have not gone broke. From a passenger's point of view, unless you had tickets with Avianca or other perks, it is pretty much a non-event.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2447656]Just came back, pretty much same police state over there. Police roust the girls every so often and move them down the road. So you have to find a hottie and bang her before the cops roust.

There were a about 20-30 girls scattered in the various corners.

I banged 2 girls both girls that were kinda girl friendish knew my deal what I wanted. Both were young 20's SuperCuties. 1 white Colombian and a light skinned Venezuelan.

Pulled there hair while gagging them BBBJ. Banged them hard made them feel good, both having fun. Paid like $8-$10.

I will have one over to my place soon for 2 hour session. My target price to pay is about $35. Or $150,000 pesos or maybe less like $25.[/QUOTE]When you say a 2-hour session, are you referring to the street girl? I check online websites and most of them usually USD $70 per hour.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2450815]Bankruptcy is just a means to erase debt. American Airlines declared bankruptcy and had $4 billion in cash. The planes are there. The debtors will take them over and sell them to a different airline or Avianca will come back restructured and leaner and meaner. Every major USA Legacy carrier has declared bankruptcy. The small budget ones like Jetblue, Spirit, and Southwest (not much of a budget airline anymore) have not gone broke. From a passenger's point of view, unless you had tickets with Avianca or other perks, it is pretty much a non-event.[/QUOTE]My feeling about the Avianca bankruptcy is that the Colombian government will bail them out. Some way or another. This is the country's main airline, they fly routes not only in Colombia but all over central and So. America. There's too much money involved to let them go under. And they bring in too much money to the country as well.

[QUOTE=Forever18;2451076]When you say a 2-hour session, are you referring to the street girl? I check online websites and most of them usually USD $70 per hour.[/QUOTE]At the current exchange rate $70 hour is a lot more than you'll pay for most options.

Happened in Chapinero this week.

[URL]https://thebogotapost.com/orange-alert-new-coronavirus-controls-in-parts-of-bogota/46605/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Forever18;2451076]When you say a 2-hour session, are you referring to the street girl? I check online websites and most of them usually USD $70 per hour.[/QUOTE]It doesn't make any difference if it's a SW or any other escort. Online website always show inflated rates because they have their own commission and hidden charges.

[URL]https://colombiareports.com/colombia-discard-international-flights-on-the-short-term-amid-doubts-about-restarting-economy/?fbclid=IwAR1udvvtXwtqJ5TMs8HOHcUwGusA5K0ssIzRO84xY7WDwucGbOB9i7PEVwE[/URL]

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2451751][URL]https://colombiareports.com/colombia-discard-international-flights-on-the-short-term-amid-doubts-about-restarting-economy/?fbclid=IwAR1udvvtXwtqJ5TMs8HOHcUwGusA5K0ssIzRO84xY7WDwucGbOB9i7PEVwE[/URL][/QUOTE]Wow, ColombiaReports has really turned into a big socialist rag since I last read it years ago. Peter needs to lay off those pills.

The article couldn't possibly be filled with more yellow journalism, misrepresentation, and outright lies.

I wouldn't even know where to start, it's just that bad.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2451751][URL]https://colombiareports.com/colombia-discard-international-flights-on-the-short-term-amid-doubts-about-restarting-economy/?fbclid=IwAR1udvvtXwtqJ5TMs8HOHcUwGusA5K0ssIzRO84xY7WDwucGbOB9i7PEVwE[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for the report, Woodman! Fuck! I think my Colombian women might be open to leaving in a shipping container. Have any contacts? LOL. Just kidding.

Woodman, I know Santa Fe is your area. Me and another monger ventured out to Primer de Mayo one night. Have you been and if so, can you do a compare and contrast?

From what I saw, there were way fewer customers, but the women were equally hot but not cheaper, and the guys trying to get you into the bars were waaay more pushy. I didn't feel as comfortable, but I was thinking I might give it a try another time. We went on a Friday night I think, and it was like 1/5 as many guys as the Santa Fe clubs.