Jakarta

[QUOTE=AnywhereInAsia; 1565360]Very similar to how I do it, couple of questions I'd be curious to hear your answer.

I stayed at Kemang fav also, I like this quality and budget but found its abit far from central meeting points for dates and normal clubs, did you find any hotel in central jakarta of a similar standard?

I also line up DIAs and whatsapp them, but find most are usually working in jakarta mon-fri and find it hard to get the lunch date every day, do you line up more than one on the same day in case one cancels?[/QUOTE]Hi AIA,

I wrote in the hotels section (where I reviewed Kemang Icon, Kemang FavHotel, Thamrin Condotel) and commented that Kemang was probably a mistake for what I was after (it sounds we have similar goals). Kemang Favhotel was not my cup of tea but for the price was good. It was my third proper mongering trip this time for the first three nights I opted for Harris FX Surdiman which is in the Senayan area close to Senayan City and Senayan Plaza, walk to Red Square and a quick cab ride to CJs at Hotel Mulia. I stayed in FX on my second trip and found it was a good central spot. A couple of cafes for the interviews and also some good local eating places and on level 2 some nice restaurants. The entry to the hotel was also very discrete as it's in the mall. Most of my dates worked around there and some more also worked around Central, so Thamrin. FX was a good price for what you get. $88AUD and previous trip I stayed at Pullman Thamrin which was excellent and I got for a great discount rate of $130AUD.

With Kemang I was thinking it sounded good because of the bars and restaurants all in walking distance which anywhere else in Jakarta you can't really do. It's always a taxi ride to the next place. But you're right, it's nowhere near where most of my dates worked and definitely the opposite side to where most lived too. Having my time again maybe I'd even try to stay in a more respectable hotel up North. A place where I'll do a bit of research on for my next trip.

As for the lunch date, try to hit up some girls. There are plenty of students looking for a bit of fun (I got a 20yr old) and also girls who work in malls therefore have their days off during the week as they work on weekends. If the girl is keen enough (and they often are) they will actually take the day off from work to see you.

I do line up some extras should some girls cancel but I've not had a cancellation yet. I figure after them (and me at times) investing so much time on whatsapp they are very keen to meet. From my previous two trips I have a couple of "regulars" who I keep warm and do not commit to a time with. I think they realise they are my "backup" by now and they are ok with that to the point of even discussing my encounters with other girls with them.

HM.

I was in Jakarta a couple of weeks ago and went to Top Gun. It was the first time in about 10 years. I remember it being a bit trashy and depressing. Anyway, I'm not sure whether I hit it on a good night or whether things have changed, but I liked it a lot. They had a good band playing both English and Indonesian tunes and a few of the women were really hot, like 9's. D's on the other hand sucked. I'm not sure about My Bar, as I left around 1:00 AM and things were just getting started.

BATS had been my favorite, but this time both the women and the band left a lot to be desired.

No price information -- I actually pulled a "freebie" from Top Gun who had her own almost-new SUV which her German boyfriend paid for. She was pretty wasted and put a dent in it on the way to my hotel. Fortunately insurance will pay for most of the damage. The reason "freebie" is in quotation marks is because I paid for the deductible.

She wasn't the most attractive at Top Gun but the woman was insatiable, she kept me up about 8 hours straight fucking. She couldn't believe I could keep up with her but she didn't know about the Levitra. I wouldn't have gone with her except she pulled me over in the club while she was dancing, stuck her tongue down my throat, and told me she liked me and would go with me for free. It's been about 15 years since the last time that happened.

I didn't take anyone from BATS, even though I went there twice.

Apologies to JAD if you read this. I definitely would have gotten another Jakarta After Dark tour, as the first is my outstanding memory of mongering in Indonesia, but had a pretty tough work schedule. For anyone who doesn't know about JAD and is interested, do a search or see his website, [URL]http://www.jakartaafterdark.com/[/URL].

[QUOTE=AnywhereInAsia; 1565360]Very similar to how I do it, couple of questions I'd be curious to hear your answer.

I stayed at Kemang fav also, I like this quality and budget but found its abit far from central meeting points for dates and normal clubs, did you find any hotel in central jakarta of a similar standard?

I also line up DIAs and whatsapp them, but find most are usually working in jakarta mon-fri and find it hard to get the lunch date every day, do you line up more than one on the same day in case one cancels?[/QUOTE]There are several Fave hotels around the city. Check their website and see if you can find one convenient for you. There's a Fave on Wahid Hasyim, as well as several hotels which might meet your budget and other requirements: Akmani, Ibis, Neo (I think). Otherwise check on Agoda and use the map to zero in on your location needs. I also go down the dating route and normally locate myself either around Wahid Hasyim or Kuningan area. There's a reasonably priced Best Western in the Mega Kuningan area which is reasonably priced and very well located to meet dates nearby.

MD II

I agree with MDII, the wahid hasyim area offers many medium priced hotels, is in a central location. Close to the popular malls which is good to meet lunch dates in. And is not far from some of the hotel bars. Taxi ride to the Blok will be 30-45mins at 11pm and to the Kota strip (north) less.

The Kosenda, on the west side of Thamrin is a small boutique hotel, it has a small but outstanding rooftop bar on the 9th floor. Great for pre-dinner drinks with a date. Rooms at the Kosenda are very modern and funky, I highly recommend the Kosenda, although it isat1m a night (but I paid 700k once as a walk-in rate). The Akmani has a pretty good outdoor bar as well. The Ibis, Neo etc will beat500-700 in that area.

There are lower level hotels such as the paragon, Cemara etc. But they feel very local, often smokey smelly rooms, and the breakfast's suck.

And also well worth an honorable mention is the Morrissey hotel. It sometimes has specials on agoda at 700k a night. The rooms are also modern and funky, service is excellent. And best of all the Italian resto downstairs, called 'ocha & bella' will impress all level of dates. Their pizzas are the best in the city. Its modern Italian, with a band and classy decor.

Morrissey is located on Wahid Hasyim and jl Jaksa. You can avoid Jl Jaksa altogether if its not your scene.

As a side note. I quite like Jaksa, but many don't. Each his own. If your over mongering and just feel like drinking 30k big bintangs in non-aircon bars and like to mingle with a mix of crusty expats, africans, low level hookers, english school teachers and backpackers. Then this is a fun option.

Sorry guys if this should be in the Jakarta-Hotel section, I don't know how to move a post-reply.

HHM.

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1566198]There are several Fave hotels around the city. Check their website and see if you can find one convenient for you. There's a Fave on Wahid Hasyim, as well as several hotels which might meet your budget and other requirements: Akmani, Ibis, Neo (I think). Otherwise check on Agoda and use the map to zero in on your location needs. I also go down the dating route and normally locate myself either around Wahid Hasyim or Kuningan area. There's a reasonably priced Best Western in the Mega Kuningan area which is reasonably priced and very well located to meet dates nearby.

MD II[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1566198]There are several Fave hotels around the city. Check their website and see if you can find one convenient for you. There's a Fave on Wahid Hasyim, as well as several hotels which might meet your budget and other requirements: Akmani, Ibis, Neo (I think). Otherwise check on Agoda and use the map to zero in on your location needs. I also go down the dating route and normally locate myself either around Wahid Hasyim or Kuningan area. There's a reasonably priced Best Western in the Mega Kuningan area which is reasonably priced and very well located to meet dates nearby.

MD II[/QUOTE]I recently used the FAVE Hotel Pasar Baru just a 10-15 minute walk from Terminal / Hotel Classic for 5 days. Excellent value for money & very neat & clean.

[url]http://www.favehotels.com/hotellist/eng/21/favehotel-pasar-baru[/url]

Dear all,

Many thanks for all your words of wisdom to silent mongers like me. Now my turn to share back.

For those into the Blok M kind of meat, an interesting option is the bar at the Mandarin Oriental. Called MO bar. But only on Tuesdays when there is a ladies night. Drinks for ladies are free all night until midnight with the result that a lot of ladies get completely shit faced and are easy pickings. 95% are working girls and 80% are middle aged and unattractive but you do come across the occasional gem. I started chatting up a pretty young spinner from Bandung. Apparently she had a friend in the city. Who was much less attractive. And came down to Jakarta every Tuesday evening to take advantage of the free drinks at MO bar. She would then stay overnight with her friend. She was happy to come back with me to "see my room" at the Mandarin Oriental and we ended up banging on the couch doggy style while both enjoying the Jakarta skyline view from the French windows. She then asked if she could stay over and I was happy to oblige. Woke up middle of the night with her lips on my rod. Turned out she was heavily into anal rimming and spent a good 20 minutes down there followed by some ball sucking and then a BJ with CIM. I returned the favor with DATY. Woke up at 7 AM for another session of AR and BJ with CIM and kicked her out. She did not ask for money so tipped her 500 K which she accepted without any complaint.

Overall, MO bar is well worth a visit but 3 things to remember - (1) drinks are not cheap - 100 K for a beer 2) some of the ladies are very aggressive but ignore (3) be patient and take your time. Girls outnumber guys 5 to 1 and so it is well worth fully scouting the place before deciding on company for the night.

Stadium shut down? I hear that Stadium has been closed down, supposedly for good. Anyone have any info on this?

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1569619]Stadium shut down? I hear that Stadium has been closed down, supposedly for good. Anyone have any info on this?[/QUOTE]Correct. The police finally got Stadium closed, that is a police officer from Sulawesi overdosed and died in the club, straw broke the camel's back. It is in every newspaper here.

I'm sure it will be back in some form or another eventually as there is so much money at stake. But for now it is done. I would stay out of Kota club's for a while.

Was reading about the stadium shut down and came across this report put together by a guy from Princeton pretty amazing read, kind of like seeing the matrix of Jakarta's underbelly.

[URL]http://www.academia.edu/4338139/John_Mac_Dougalls_sex_industry_report[/URL]

Great read, I had read this along time ago, but now knowing the place a little better it definitely makes more sense. Thanks for highlighting.

This guy has really really done his research. Wow what a job..

He details many organised places like Kalijodo that some of the senior mongers have been to in Jakarta. But also alot more that many of us would never goto or consider, due to violence, low level etc.

He calls these the Mid level areas, with a whole other category for the unstructured 'wild' zones around train tracks etc. Wow, and here I was thinking Kalijodo etc were the 'wild' zones.

Anyway, a great read, particularly for those living in Jakarta, most of these places of off the tourist track, let alone off the locals track.

Be safe out there.

[QUOTE=DonChristiano;1570072]Was reading about the stadium shut down and came across this report put together by a guy from Princeton pretty amazing read, kind of like seeing the matrix of Jakarta's underbelly.

[URL]http://www.academia.edu/4338139/John_Mac_Dougalls_sex_industry_report[/URL][/QUOTE]

I will use it as a guide to explore the areas outside of the Manga Bessar / Bloc M / Hotel Bar and Red Square freelance axis and report back to the forum on my findings. Have been studying Bahasa so that will hopefully help.

Any pointers on particular areas to focus on much appreciated (have RTFF, but again info is 99% on the areas mentioned above, which makes up only a fraction of the market.

[QUOTE=HardHatMat;1570275]Great read, I had read this along time ago, but now knowing the place a little better it definitely makes more sense. Thanks for highlighting.

This guy has really really done his research. Wow what a job..

He details many organised places like Kalijodo that some of the senior mongers have been to in Jakarta. But also alot more that many of us would never goto or consider, due to violence, low level etc.

He calls these the Mid level areas, with a whole other category for the unstructured 'wild' zones around train tracks etc. Wow, and here I was thinking Kalijodo etc were the 'wild' zones.

Anyway, a great read, particularly for those living in Jakarta, most of these places of off the tourist track, let alone off the locals track.

Be safe out there.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pikefish;1569659]Correct. The police finally got Stadium closed, that is a police officer from Sulawesi overdosed and died in the club, straw broke the camel's back. It is in every newspaper here.

I'm sure it will be back in some form or another eventually as there is so much money at stake. But for now it is done. I would stay out of Kota club's for a while.[/QUOTE]Was in Stadium for the first time for a few years on the Monday before it closed. There was a distinct lack of security. One of the guards said there was to be a change of management. Tommy W was no longer interested in overseeing the facility, mamasan mentioned she had problem bringing in new girls. So it seemed to be on its last legs anyway.

Would always recommend Kings Cross in Kelapa Gading, one of Tommy Winata's better managed joints. My taxi driver couldn't find or recall it basically because my pronunciation was poor. They locals called it Kink Cross not KingS Cross. The contract girls at 300 000 Rp seem better than the freelance ones at twice the price. My girl (who my pal selected for me through a "contes") said the club is only planning to close for 5 days during the end of fasting month. So it looks as if the better protected clubs will be shut for a week only which is looking good for July.

[QUOTE=DonChristiano;1570072]Was reading about the stadium shut down and came across this report put together by a guy from Princeton pretty amazing read, kind of like seeing the matrix of Jakarta's underbelly.

[URL]http://www.academia.edu/4338139/John_Mac_Dougalls_sex_industry_report[/URL][/QUOTE]Is this report a recent one?

I just take the example of Merdika which is quoted 150 k per session there.

When I was there in February for a few days that s the only brothel I had time to check out and I had the same exprience than OmBule on this and was quoted 300 k by the papasan.

Sorry but this place is shit.

Only a few girls which I wouldn't mind if they were attractive but they were all dogs.

I didn't bother bargaining and left right away.

Quite sad to see Stadium go, I hope something similar can rise from it's ashes. Last legs, yes. I was told, it was to be closed last year. My last post stems from over a year ago, indirectly warning about this being on the cards. A little later than anticipated.

Great read indeed, the academic findings on North Jakarta. It says it is 10 years old. 2004. I can see some info still holds value, some not. Venues like 1001 have disappeared altogether.

BTW I politely disagree with the level of research, he could have plugged a bit deeper? Like, the "uncontrolled train tracks" at Jatinegara and the women sex workers, he refers to. I guess about 75% of the sex workers lined up around the tracks in Jatinegara are technically not women. They do dress like women, that is true.

Since the trouble in Thailand I desided to give Jakarta a try. Got in late yesturday and had a problem with with my safe at the hotel so was only able to go to M block which was near my hotel. If this is the worst area then I going to love it when I go to BATS tonite. Was able to hook up with a short cutie that night and got the number of a dark skin girl with a big booty and chest which I met in the evening. Thanks for vitamin v I should have another good time.