I think those rules are different when the guy is coming from a different country.
[QUOTE=Professor 1; 1335199]E. You are well aware that not all girls give it up on the first date. A true "non-pro" will not do that. Sure there are many who will go out with the rich foreigner for cash, and some do not need cash. I certainly do not want newbies to think that all DR chicas give it up on the first date for a few hundred pesos. It simply is not so. As you get outside the tourist areas where Spanish is a must, you find DR chicas like chicas everywhere. This includes those with dignity who don't screw the first guy that tells them they are beautiful.
The point that I was trying to make was game is required in some instances, and those instances generally require some Spanish and patience.[/QUOTE]Ok you can never say all but I bet the hit rate will be very high especially if you have been emailing and talking to chica and getting it marinated before you come. Now I think its even higher if you do what I always do and at least give a first meeting chica two nights in your room and if she says she is staying with you in your hotel for two nights she is going to open the legs so it becomes to the chica you are going to screw the guy so what difference is 24 hours? Look at the situation the guy is traveling a long way to see you and spending money for hotel and its not like you can give it to him next weekend the guy will be gone back home. So that I am I not going to sleep with you on the first night because I am not a **** tends to change under those situations.
That is not just the DR your first night hit rate is usually higher in the USA if you go to a different region of the country than where you live. All the Chicas that I have correspond with prior to coming to meet them in both Brazil and DR we got busy on that first night. Sure some do the I do not know if we should on the first night routine (a universal woman thing IMO) , but it all changes because she knows she needs to impress.
I am not going to say you can't never run into a chica that would not give in, but if you have been talking to her and you travel all those miles you need to give off the assertive not aggressive vibe that yes I expect sex the first night or chica you can go home no hard feelings and we can still have lunch the next day, but this hotel will get some use from someone tonight. I guess that is why you always have backups no matter how well the chica talks online
Very few rich people in the world
[QUOTE=Revere;1335717]This is interesting question. I have a trip report coming soon, but I think both are you are right. I went to Santo Domingo recently and did all non pro things and a couple of the clubs I went too you could not sit down if you did not order a bottle. What struck me is there was a lot of money in those clubs and some hot dominican girls who I do not think would give a monger the time of day because they had there own group. On the other hand, there are hot poor Domincan girls who I have seen not comfortable in that environment because they know they do not fit in with that rich crowd. So, I think you are both right on this one. I went to a club the Gold club a casino near the blue mall. It was a hot club with no mongers only locals and bottles everywhere. The club did not start going until 3am I left at 5 and it was still going strong. The club was for the hot young dominicans. All locals. They could care less if you were a monger.[/QUOTE]There are very few rich people in the world relative to their home country where they reside and I think there are even fewer rich Dominicans by percentage. Sure every country has some rich people even the poor ones, but the important thing the percentage is always small even more for places like the DR. I was there in September and went to a bar / club after a movie with chica that was at the acropolis plaza. Now it was obvious that most of the people in there were more well to do than than most average Dominicans both the guys and the chicas.
There were some hot chicas who were there in a group, but in reality they were no hotter than the chica I was with who is very poor. Now could I have pulled any of them I think no the main reason being my spanish would not be good enough to get anywhere with them and yes they have less need for me than the hot chica I was with. So that is true, but in reality there are far more chicas like the one I was with than those more well to do chicas. However I do believe a foreigner whose spanish was good could have gotten somewhere with at least one of the chicas and you only have to convince one. I also do not know by what standards those chicas were rich by because obviously by average DR statndards they were, but by USA standards I do not know. So I would not say that a guy who spanish was much better could not have pulled at least one of those chicas in that bar/club that night . My conversational Spanish is about 3 to 5 minutes and than I am dead so I would not have had any luck in there , but in the past I have seen a foreign monger pulled a more well to do chicas with very good spanish in the old Clarion.
As someone said rich guys do not need to go to the slums or even use online dating services for chicas and even when they want pros they do not need to do what the average guy does. So it can be the same way with women the woman that really does not need or want a foreign guy is not out there on the latin euro, dominican cupid, badoo, colombian cupid etc. If she on the site and you are corresponding with her you can bet that she is not waiting to impress some young rich dominican no matter how hot she is.