Bareback not worth it: At your own risk.
Statistics don't tell us much about individual circumstances. The danger may not be the girl in the bar, as they are required to get regular testing, it seems the best system in place, despite the 3 month window period for possible infection.
The real danger is the illiterate and uninformed poor girl in the disco/on the street who belongs to no one and NEVER uses a condom or even has a health check up in her life.
I have heard that bars have a constant flow of girls to/from the provinces every few months, so on the surface the product seems "fresh." However, girls with HIV or other STDs might simply relocate to regions where local officials/bar owners have relaxed policies about medical check ups. Some might consider it unnesscary because of the myth that low traffic areas have lower cases of HIV. Also, it is possible local officials could be paid bribes from bar owners.
Does anybody know of bars that have had an HIV outbreak recent years? It seems to me bars would be relucatant to inform the public about an HIV scare because of the potential loss in business from patrons. One scare would literally put thousands of people out of work, bars, brothels and hotels, etc...
Conclusion: Bareback is not worth it.
This thread should move to another area
I have been reading editorials and news reports over the last few months here in the PI. There is a bill in the PI Congress that will allow funding for family planning. This bill will promote sex education to students from grade 2 to senior high school. It would also assist pregnant woman with health care during pregnancy. But most important it would teach people how to avoid unwanted pregnancies and STD's. It would teach abstinence, muenstral(sp) cycles, and contraception. It will not, however, legalize abortion in the PI. The Catholic Church does not want this bill to pass because they feel the use of contraceptives is like abortion, its not God's will. I cannot believe the Church would rather allow millions of people to die from AIDS or other STD's than allow more freely the use of contraceptive devices.
Many provincial people are so nieve about sex because of myths or lack of knowledge. As in the USA, many families don't teach the children about sex, family planning, or contraceptives because they may feel if they know about it, they will do it. Or their religous beliefs prevent them from discussing it in the family. The lack of knowledge is then brought to the larger cities as the girls come here to meet men and make money. I had one girl attempt to put my penis in her vagina sans condom. She didn't understand why when I asked her why would she allow herself to be exposed. As you surely understand, I ended that session right away. She talked like she didn't have an understanding of safety and I don't need to chance taking anything home to my wife.
I hope this bill will pass, because it will make the PI safer in the years to come.
The Family Health Bill in the PI Congress...
Teddy Bear is correct. There is such a bill and it's before the House of Representatives. According to what I read in the national papers here, the bill does not have muich chance of passing except perhaps in an extremely diluted version. It's unfortunate that the prelates of the Catholic Church here would rather sanction continued poverty, unchecked population growth and the spread of STDs rather than allow sane family planning and sex education.
The lack of knowledge here regarding family planning, sexual protection and population growth is astounding. Having girls demand that their partners wear condoms is the exception. Most do not. This ignorance, in turn, is superseded only by the inadequacy of health care services for poor people. There is simply no access worth mentioning.
GE
Here are some statistics for ya
It is estimated at the current rate of transmission that half of all the population in Africa will be HIV positive by the years 2015, still think it's hard to catch?
Some Asian countries are on a pandemic pace in the next 15 years for HIV infection. Some scientists theorize that the virus is rapidly mutating into a much more infectious and deadly version of what we see circulating today. Some even think we are doing more harm then good with the current medications being used because the virus is not totally killed off, it's retraining itself in reservoirs within the body to SURVIVE, which means it's being made stronger, more vicious and deadly!
We are talking about a disease that will have over 800 million people infected by the year 2020 on its current pace. That's almost 1 billion! And you guys are still trying to justify running to third world countries and doing PROSITITUES without a condom. You're simple suicidal, insane, or BOTH!
Tang~!
PS. AND TO THOSE WHO KEEP REFERRING TO ODDS ABOUT BEING KILLED IN A CAR ACCIDENT GREATER THEN CATCHING HIV. WELL, GO COMPARE DIEING FROM AN AUTOMOBILE ACCIDENT VERSUS DIEING A SLOW PAINFULL WAISTING AWAY DEATH FROM A DISEASE THAT SUCKS THE LIFE SLOWLY FROM YOU AND DECIDE WHAT ODDS YOU WOULD RATHER PLAY WITH! GO AHEAD, VIEW SOME PHOTOS OF WHAT AIDS DOES TO PEOPLE, THEN COME BACK AND BRAG ABOUT GOING BAREBACK! I'LL WAIT!
Please shift to the safe sex and/or opinions threads
You guys bring up some very good points but HIV/AIDS is very preventable. What we do have to worry about is the next big communicable disease like bird flu. Scientists agree that it is only a matter of time before the next big pandemic occurs. Then we are all up shits creek without a paddle!
