Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Tomasb;2857783]Yes, a very small percentage of LB's would lie especially if they think you are a rube or very drunk but checking the DL will work which indicates their gender and DoB in English. This is how hotel desk clerks know if it's a LB or GG or underage.

I also think it's an over generalisation to paint a broad brush that most scams in Thailand are conducted by LB's. They can come from any gender or walk of life here, though I think Thailand in general is vastly more safe especially as it pertains to mongering. Colombia is particularly perilous as some girls have been known to resort to knock out drugs (drop in drinks etc), which has even killed some guys.[/QUOTE]Key Words:

Rube.

Drunk.

Don't be a rube or a drunk kiddies.

It is awesome when your searches unearth gems.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2857327]That's the way I roll. Everything I need to know is on the net or here. Newbies take note.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Allover;2857562]Yes Paolo a very small percentage would lie. If in doubt I walk away. But you can always ask to check the ID which shows the sex at birth.[/QUOTE]In Brazil there is a right to issue a new ID and change the above:

[URL]https://oglobo.globo.com/brasil/transexuais-ja-podem-mudar-nome-em-documentos-nos-cartorios-de-todo-pais-22836060[/URL]

Just like you, I find Bangkok's Sukhumvit a bit rushed compared to Pattaya. However, the Nuru massages in Sukhumvit are great.

This time around, I'm keen on exploring Patpong, Thaniya, Silom, and the nearby areas. But I wasn't sure where to begin. The top results on Google are dominated by ads and basic information, while some of the niche sites I checked out didn't quite capture the essence of these places.

Your post offered a concise yet comprehensive insight into what to expect in Patpong and Silom. Thanks for sharing such valuable information it's saved me a lot of time. I've decided to dive in and give Patpong a try, especially since my past experiences in Sukhumvit have been a tad underwhelming.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2852312]So having enjoyed 10 nights in Pattaya, mainly in Gents Clubs, headed to Bangkok a city I know quite well from many trips. On many previous trips I've pretty much concentrated on The area between Nana, via Thermae on Sukhumvit and onto Soi Cowboy, though in 2022 I did have fun on Soi 11 (Suk). This time I wanted to try something a little different, and decided that I would only spend 2 of my 5 nights in those old haunts and for the rest would head to Surawong / Thaniya / Silom area for a change. I was glad I did.

Stayed at various locations including the Okura Prestige very nice indeed though thought the cantilever pool would be the main attraction but it wasn't all that. The lobby and the rooms are superb. Jumped on the BTS to Phrom Phong to check out the "Stocking Spa massage". Appreciate there is a dedicated MP thread so will keep this short fancied the idea of a sexy massage from a hostess in suspenders well was disappointed the girls line up in the parade wearing tights / pantyhose and don't wear stockings with the thick tops at all. 7 girls to chose from and Sky was the best. Stunning slim brunette who made the journey worthwhile chose the Nuru option for 3500 and it was worth every penny everything included.

Decided to do my normal walk in reverse and headed to Cowboy. Absolutely rammed despite the torrential rain no surprise of course as this is rainy season. The overall noise volume has increased somewhat and I found myself asking what on earth I was doing there! Whilst I'm not old and I dolike some great music this was deafening. Conversations are therefore partly shouting. Awful. For old times sake took a beer in each of Baccara, Shark and Suzy Wong's but with one stand out 9/10 in Shark the offerings were poor.

On to Thermae same old You'll find someone to your liking but the format walking that circle isn't the best and the venue is looking tired and past it. Still jam packed inside so I suppose it works and the good news is that it's possible to have a conversation which I found almost impossible in Cowboy. In the many years I've frequented this bar I think I've only taken maybe 5 girls and as I left it I vowed not to return but my guess is I will do!
There are so many other options available in BKK that returning to one that doesn't do it for you isn't worth it.

Onto Nana which was almost a repeat of Cowboy. Tried Billboard and Spankys but nothing special and again the noise levels were prohibitive. Ended up in Hilary 2 also very noisy but good crowd and a decent freelancer made that trip worth it. Not before she begged me to go with her to Analisa massage a short walk away, to "meet her friend" in the hope of a threesome. The friend turned out to be a line up of 6 girls didn't select any but was surprised that 2 of them were 7/10+.

So my 2 nights on Sukhumvit were up and I found myself genuinely wondering if I'm just past the din of it all. I started to wonder why on earth I'the left Pattaya for this but I had work in Bangkok so could not avoid it.

Up and breakfast done headed to new hotel in Surawong the Marriot. It's a 20 min walk to Thaniya but wanted the exercise. Overall I much preferred the Silom / Surawong area. It doesn't suffer the same manic traffic as Suk. Loved the whole area around MahaNakhon and the shops / cafes in its lobby. Thaniya was actually great fun and because it is so wide, it's easy to navigate and without the horrendous booming music of Cowboy or Nana. The options in Thaniya are plentiful. The girls are nearly all in uniform and for sure they are trying to attract a Japanese crowd. As I am not Japanese I noticed that I wasn't getting waved or smiled at as much but I didn't mind that at all and during my 3 nights there no girl I approached rejected an advance. The Managers / mamasans are usually outside with the girls seeking to beckon you in. For most of the bars it is a standard service where you select the girl from outside (most are seated but some stand in lines) and take her to a room for drinks, karaoke if that's your thing and for the sex. Prices range from 2500 to 3500 including 500 or 600 for the room "hire". But there is an expectation you'll buy more than one drink for you and one for the lady at 300 each. It was clearly going to run up a 4-5000 bill which is fine. Yes I know I could get FS in one of the many local oilies for 1500 but the experience was great fun, a little odd in terms of being in an "entertainment" room but you soon relax into it. Alternatively you can go to the Sena club on Thaniya featured in a YouTube video and thought I'the check it out. The girls still sit on stools outside but upstairs there is a large pool table / darts (but no rooms to play in so you take the girl to the hotel if things are going well 3500 inc bar fine so entirely reasonable.

There are a few agogos in the Patpong night market street Kings Castle, Kings Castle II and III and Radio City across the road. Then Pink Panther on the street corner of another road close by. Usual agogo stuff not as full on as Nana / cowboy / or Kink or Windmill in Pattaya (wildest 2 I have been to this trip) but some very pretty options and again 3500 plus a bar fine of only 500.

Visited Octopus Fetish Club small backstreet Patpong Alley (which also boasts a few agogos) 1000 entry plus a drink the guy on the door waving a cane about wanted you to buy a 300 drink on top but relents to 100! Inside wow what a great atmosphere compared to Castle in Pattaya. 8 girls including a mix of ranges and a lovely Madam who is the bar owner who though older still looks really good. Guys butt naked being spanked, one paraded around as a dog in some mask thing (I had to bite a lip not to start laughing). This is not a place for the feint hearted or reserved took a seat expecting to be able to "watch" but you are quickly descended upon by the girls who want you to buy them ladydrinks at 300 and who very swiftly have more than roaming hands and want your clothes off there and then in public view (though its all very red / dark). Several guys were completely naked within 10 minutes of walking through the door and they do not struggle for customers here. That is because the level of "service" in the bar is swift and good. The lady drink 300 price is not cheap but comes with benefits! The girl expects to earn that drink. Two guys came in and bought a round of 5 drinks for 5 girls who then rapidly had their cocks out for blowjobs. It is possible to take girls upstairs to rooms for 3500. Very good vibe in the club.

Plenty of the usual oily options locally in street surrounding Patpong Night Market and usual services all on offer usually for 1000-1500. Got quoted 3000 by the best looking girl I found in one of them but whilst she wouldn't reduce to 1500 we did agree 2000. That was in one of the bigger Urban massage places was surprised they catered for sexual services as it looked more like an upscale massage place and indeed their massages were superb.

All in all another great trip mix of work and pleasure. For those wondering about a break from Cowboy / Nana this was a good choice though you might want to stay at Raya hotel or LE Meridian which are both immediately across the road from Patpong / Thaniya.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PhilAndererer;2857995]Just like you, I find Bangkok's Sukhumvit a bit rushed compared to Pattaya. However, the Nuru massages in Sukhumvit are great.

This time around, I'm keen on exploring Patpong, Thaniya, Silom, and the nearby areas. But I wasn't sure where to begin. The top results on Google are dominated by ads and basic information, while some of the niche sites I checked out didn't quite capture the essence of these places.

Your post offered a concise yet comprehensive insight into what to expect in Patpong and Silom. Thanks for sharing such valuable information it's saved me a lot of time. I've decided to dive in and give Patpong a try, especially since my past experiences in Sukhumvit have been a tad underwhelming.[/QUOTE]Can't help you with basic search techniques, but if you found Suk underwhelming, you sure aren't going to be happy with Patpong. I know that there are very few residents and long term mongers that go there absent another reason to be in that area. I haven't stepped foot in Patpong for years.

Now if you are Japanese, by all means go to Thaniya. If you are gay, you will be in Silom anyway.

This is indeed an amazing post. I learned a lot. I will be in BKK in November.

W I understand that this is an interesting area.

Can you recommend a nice hotel?

I would like to have a nice location, it makes me feel better.

[QUOTE=PhilAndererer;2857995]Just like you, I find Bangkok's Sukhumvit a bit rushed compared to Pattaya. However, the Nuru massages in Sukhumvit are great.

This time around, I'm keen on exploring Patpong, Thaniya, Silom, and the nearby areas. But I wasn't sure where to begin. The top results on Google are dominated by ads and basic information, while some of the niche sites I checked out didn't quite capture the essence of these places.

Your post offered a concise yet comprehensive insight into what to expect in Patpong and Silom. Thanks for sharing such valuable information it's saved me a lot of time. I've decided to dive in and give Patpong a try, especially since my past experiences in Sukhumvit have been a tad underwhelming.[/QUOTE]

LOL, I'm neither Japanese nor gay.

I'm just searching for a more relaxed experience. In Sukhumvit, I often feel rushed. Pattaya, on the other hand, offers varied experiences – from beer bars to gentleman clubs – and it feels more spacious with a diverse range of options.

I get that Bangkok / Sukhumvit is a bustling city, but everything seems limited to a few lanes and similar offerings. The predominant gogos and nurus all feel the same. And places like Soi Cowboy, feels like you're done exploring in a flash. His description sounds like they offer a more laid-back experience, so I want to see how Patpong / Thaniya suits me.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2858027]Can't help you with basic search techniques, but if you found Suk underwhelming, you sure aren't going to be happy with Patpong. I know that there are very few residents and long term mongers that go there absent another reason to be in that area. I haven't stepped foot in Patpong for years.

Now if you are Japanese, by all means go to Thaniya. If you are gay, you will be in Silom anyway.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2858027]Can't help you with basic search techniques, but if you found Suk underwhelming, you sure aren't going to be happy with Patpong. I know that there are very few residents and long term mongers that go there absent another reason to be in that area. I haven't stepped foot in Patpong for years.

Now if you are Japanese, by all means go to Thaniya. If you are gay, you will be in Silom anyway.[/QUOTE]Patpong is the Worstest of the Worst known areas to play in.

In a line up of 6 girls. 2 are 7 out of 10. Okay Buddy.

I.

Have they finally turned out the lights in Patpong? I know SOL (RIP) is history but how about Meet the World? Last report I could find was 10 months ago. Just wondering so I can set my expectations accordingly for a return later this year. Thanks.

I want to share my quick trip report about the Black Caviar Executive Club. It was Thursday night, and I decided to visit the club after a light dinner at around 8 pm. I'm staying near Soi 11, a popular location, but the BTS Skytrain doesn't go anywhere near the club. I had to use Grab from my hotel. Surprisingly, the cab ride took nearly over half an hour due to the heavy traffic. However, when I left the club an hour later, the trip back only took ten minutes. The driver didn't seem to mind the destination, in the past some have declined.

Upon arrival, the club looked quite impressive, resembling upscale hotels, with a massive billboard outside displaying their clean but striking corporate branding. There was a decent-sized parking lot filled with several exotic cars.

Inside, the place was impeccably clean and could easily rival some of the more upscale casinos in Las Vegas. The layout was a bit confusing to me. The first floor, had a random assortment of seating and a bar, most of which were unoccupied. Bouncers in yellow sport coats, matching the club's theme, were scattered around. The real action was upstairs, where you ascend a grand staircase partially around a giant chandelier into another long room with a bar, partially separated seating for guest groups and another near the entrance for the talent.

Upstairs, I was greeted by one of the mamasans who introduced herself. I informed her that it was my first time at the club. She was super polite, offering me a brief tour. I decided to enjoy a drink and engaged in a quick conversation with her before finishing my drink. Going to back the talent, there were about 40 girls, everyone was attractive but there was definitely quite a bit of makeup and plastic. Looking at the price list, I could say most of the girls were around the $6-18 k. One in the front of the group had a light pink dress just barely holding up her nearly perfect fake tits with a special tag and was over $30 k. She was absolutely attractive, her tits were that good but I can't say she was worth that much to me. I went with someone in the back who held a softer smile in a sleek black dress who went by Jane.

Once I paid and got another drink it was off to the rooms which are right down the hallway. It's a bit darker themed but honestly similar to higher-end western hotels. Inside, there's no real view, not that you'd need one but it has a decent bed, spa, shower and working TV. There was a bit a language barrier but myself along with Jane had no issues using translation on our phones. She was a little nervous at first, so was I but after a bit that anxiety went a way but I could see how being a regular would help. Starting off we hit the shower, and filled up the tub. We had a serious problem with getting the temperature just right as it was always too hot or too cold. Either way, us playing around in the bath didn't last long and most of time was on the spent on the bed until the phone went off and our time was up.

Overall, it was a good experience but honestly it felt more "fancy" than better than other places not necessarily better. It was often better than anything you'd see in Nana Plaza or Soi Cowboy but not always. I'll really wish you could talk to the girls more before going picking one but I'll probably go again in the coming months and check out a few other different high-end parlors like Emmanuele, Maria, etc. to see what those are like. I still haven't been to clubs like The Pimp either.

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2858114]Patpong is the Worstest of the Worst known areas to play in.

In a line up of 6 girls. 2 are 7 out of 10. Okay Buddy.

I.[/QUOTE]Wow. Thats better than it was 15 years ago (Thaniya excepted, some real talent down there if you enjoy the overpriced in house Japanese).

[QUOTE=PhilAndererer;2858093]LOL, I'm neither Japanese nor gay.

I'm just searching for a more relaxed experience. In Sukhumvit, I often feel rushed. Pattaya, on the other hand, offers varied experiences from beer bars to gentleman clubs and it feels more spacious with a diverse range of options.

I get that Bangkok / Sukhumvit is a bustling city, but everything seems limited to a few lanes and similar offerings. The predominant gogos and nurus all feel the same. And places like Soi Cowboy, feels like you're done exploring in a flash. His description sounds like they offer a more laid-back experience, so I want to see how Patpong / Thaniya suits me.[/QUOTE]Enjoy. You have been warned. If I was traveling to BKK and had limited time, I wouldn't go there. Hell, I would go to Pattaya first.

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2858183]Have they finally turned out the lights in Patpong? I know SOL (RIP) is history but how about Meet the World? Last report I could find was 10 months ago. Just wondering so I can set my expectations accordingly for a return later this year. Thanks.[/QUOTE]My Kid was in town in August and because I snore and smoke too much weed, she ditched me to go stay in Silom (plus I wasnt about to walk 20,000 steps a day with her in shopping malls).

She got bored one night and cruised around Silom / Patpong. She liked the gay places but didn't have a lot of good things to say about Patpong, given her observation of drunkls fighting with ladyboys and "dad do you go there, those girls are so old old and ugly". She's not a rookie either, she has probably 12 tips to BKK under her belt.

BTS Nana School Girl.

Now located at Nana Plaza area right in front of one of those Beer Bars. Her and the African s clog up for Traffic. Last night I came within 18 inches of her Face. Hahaha.

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2858183]Have they finally turned out the lights in Patpong? I know SOL (RIP) is history but how about Meet the World? Last report I could find was 10 months ago. Just wondering so I can set my expectations accordingly for a return later this year. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I was there slightly more recently, March 2023 and got a great BJ from Yaya. Like you I hope it's still there when I next vist BKK in January.

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2858114]Patpong is the Worstest of the Worst known areas to play in.

In a line up of 6 girls. 2 are 7 out of 10. Okay Buddy.
[/QUOTE]Did you think Black Pagoda was bad in 2016/7? One of the best gogo girl lineups I've ever seen. Was the big King's Castle bad in 2017/8 especially when they moved to their temporary location? Imo was the best gogo bar in BKK at the time. I'm a big Patpong guy but even I have stopped going now. I went after COVID and it was depressing. I think I posted photos on here. When the night market left it was game over for Patpong.

Patpong also had that amazing BBQ place. That was another reason to go to Patpong. It moved around 2018 to the other side of Lumpini Park.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2858509]Patpong also had that amazing BBQ place. That was another reason to go to Patpong. It moved around 2018 to the other side of Lumpini Park.[/QUOTE]I still like to visit Patpong but will probably only go once per trip. It's always fun to walk down Thaniya even if only a few girls will look at you. Pink Panther had a good selection during my visit a few months ago. The bbq place you are referring to is probably Smokin Pug. They recently opened another location on Sukhumvit Soi 20. Good bbq food.

Last night Schoolgirl Happenings. As I walked past her she turned my way. OMG-. She is even uglier than I thought. LOL.

Funny part is she was Prettier than the Ethiopian standing a few Feet away.

I'm not laughing at you guys who like them. I know to each their own.

P.S. . If you actually watch close a lot of the Hotter non Lady's in the Plaza get barfined by Asians.

SIAM PARAGON! HOLY MOSES! I've been there! You've been there! We've all been there! It's incredible this happens in Bangkok. I thought shit like this only happens in the united states, cause we suck over here. Nothing bad ever happens in Bangkok. It's paradise. How? Why? This kind of thing is so common in america that most times it doesn't even get reported anymore unless there's at least 10 casualties. Bad things only happen where I used to be and where I currently am. Never where I'm not. Cause my life sucks, everybody else's is awesome. Cause where I am sucks, and everywhere else is awesome, or at least that's what I'm told over and over and over again by everyone my entire Goddamn life. I'm in denial fellas, cause Bangkok is too perfect for things like this, I'm just going to ignore this story and never think about it again. Cause Thailand is paradise. Plain and simple. I know I will be happy there and that's where I want to die. By God, Thailand will be the one to kill me, not the united states, I swear by the balls of Christ himself!

Why is it when I'm somewhere it sucks and when I'm not there anymore it's awesome? Decades ago I was stuck in south east Asia, and back then, I'll tell ya fellas, it was literal hell. It was actual war, ok? I kid you not. And back then the USA was prosperous, everybody was rich, and now that I'm stuck in the US it's expensive as hell to live, while South East Asia is dirt cheap, every idiot foreigner there drives a Benz and fucks hot chicks even if we look like Danny-freakin-Devito! Everyone in Asia is rich, prosperous, happy, and despite the higher standards of living these days, still very happy to treat Danny Devito-like white guys as Gods, hah! God, I hate my life. Good thing there's not much of it left. It's been decades of shit. Let me spell it out: ES, H, AI, TEE. Shit.

Man. Siam Paragon, sure brings back some memories. I remember I was there with an escort like 10 years ago now, the report might actually still be here in this forum, and probably in another review site that rhymes with 'the memotic preview' dot com. Yes, she was very hot, but not that great fuck wise. She taught me a most important lesson in that looks only go so far with chicks. What they should do is actually perform, and it's always a diamond in the rough when you find a super babe that also performs. Those I always give 10/10. Anyway, those were the days when I was stupid enough to want to spend time with these chicks like some kind of idiot boyfriend, sheesh. I did that in one of my earlier Prague trips too. Nowadays, forget that shit. Just fuck them'. That's what you're literally paying them for. Wining and dining them? What the hell for? You know you're going to bang them anyway, it's not like trying to date some chick. Jeez. Anyway, back then I figured I would try to kill 2 birds with one stone, cause I always wanted to visit the world famous aquarium in Bangkok's Siam Paragon. I even took photos of her there, but I can't be sure I even have them anymore. Yeah, not half bad memories, I wish I knew how to do Bangkok better back then, but now I freakin' do, live and learn. And yet when I have 'figured out' how to do Bangkok proper, I can't get back there! Ahhh. Go figure. Such is the shitstain that is my life.

So, no. No bad things have ever happened in Siam Paragon or in Bangkok in general. When you think of Siam Paragon, don't think of bloodshed from gun violence, just think of the aquarium, it's really nice. Remember fellas, Bangkok specifically and Thailand in general is paradise, it's perfect in it's own way, like the way Singapore is perfect, like the way Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Switzerland and New Zealand are perfect. Nothing bad ever happens in those countries, every person lucky enough to be living there are as happy as human beings can ever be. If you're from those countries and you somehow still have something to complain about then please take a long walk off a short pier. The places I used to live, where I live now, it's all crap. Talk about fate, luck, ain't no such thing as karma or God or any of that shit fellas. It's all meaningless. You're either born lucky or you're not. So if you've got breath in you left, go out there and just fuck. It's the only thing that really brings any real joy in life. Friends? Family? Kids? Are you fucking kiddin' me?

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2856877]Glad to help you out:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/forumdisplay.php?110-Quebec[/URL]

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?385-Montreal[/URL]

Of course, if everyone is like you, there might not be a lot of activity; but the threads [B]ARE[/B] there, with Montreal seeming to have a steady flow of posts (of course [B]NOT[/B] any from you). But hey, writing an FR does take time, which you seem to be short of. So with respect to BKK, no use wasting my time helping someone with so little time to spare.

[HIGHLIGHT]Shout out to [B]Bunky[/B] and [B]Newton York[/B], two [B]CONTRIBUTING[/B] members.[/HIGHLIGHT] Funny how the people you would help never ask for any.
Not quite BOTG, but starting my intel collection by reading (SAY WHAT ?!?!?!) before a trip late this year.[/QUOTE]Looking forward to your reports 11 Bravo, it's awesome you get to go back later this year. Man, I wish I could go to Thailand again. Somehow I'm still employed and with this not so great job, and at my age, if they don't fire me soon, I might just have to quit anyway and then it's on the way to Thailand! I'm planning on sometime in 2024, but no rush. I'm trying to look at this with a silver linings outlook, if I can save up more cash, why not. Means I can stay longer and bang more chicks next time I'm in Thailand. We all know things change pretty fast in the Bangkok scene, so my experiences from a year ago are already outdated. If you've got time, I hope you'll visit and report on 'Butterfly Massage' and especially 'Bangkok Smile Massage' [URL]smilebangkak.com[/URL], they spell their website Bangkak instead of Bangkok, which ironically makes them even easier to find considering how many establishments in Bangkok have 'smile' in the name. Looking like there's some real good talent at that place, some of those girls I had good times with back when they were at Happy BKK. Man, I can't imagine how many new places and chicks there'd be by now in Bangkok. Have fun dude! I really miss all this, not even just the trips, but the weeks leading up to the trip, the anticipation, the excitement, the research on where you could go, what chicks you might bang. Man, if there's any reason to bother living life at all, this is it. Bangkok is it.

[QUOTE=Tvataham274;2857553]Pimp club, google allmighty says this is its site and location. Is this the right place?

[URL]https://www.pimpbangkok.com[/URL]

Opposite PT Gas Station, 496 Rotchanamin Alley, Khwaeng Wang Thonglang, Wang Thonglang, Bangkok 10310, Thailand.[/QUOTE]That's the place, a bit over-rated if you ask me. Not saying it's a place for dudes with more cash then sense, but then again if you can afford it, why not? Hell, if I had the cash I'd fly business class all the time. You can almost guarantee a good time if you tip the mamasan well when you ask her which of the chicks will fuck, because not all of them will. And she'll be pricey when you do bang her. You'll have fun drinking with them if that's your thing, but for me, at my age, I just got to get to the fucking cause I could keel over at any time. I don't know about you other fellas, but I ain't got the time to wine and dine no more, and the more I think about it, the weirder it seems especially when you've already paid and agreed to the sex, so what's up with the date? I totally did Bangkok wrong years ago, and I more than made up for it last year, and I can only pray to the Sex Gods that I will be alive long enough to go back and fuck my way thru Bangkok one last time, some time soon.

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2858934]Looking forward to your reports 11 Bravo, it's awesome you get to go back later this year. Man, I wish I could go to Thailand again. Somehow I'm still employed and with this not so great job, and at my age, if they don't fire me soon, I might just have to quit anyway and then it's on the way to Thailand! I'm planning on sometime in 2024, but no rush. I'm trying to look at this with a silver linings outlook, if I can save up more cash, why not. Means I can stay longer and bang more chicks next time I'm in Thailand. We all know things change pretty fast in the Bangkok scene, so my experiences from a year ago are already outdated. If you've got time, I hope you'll visit and report on 'Butterfly Massage' and especially 'Bangkok Smile Massage' [URL]smilebangkak.com[/URL], they spell their website Bangkak instead of Bangkok, which ironically makes them even easier to find considering how many establishments in Bangkok have 'smile' in the name. Looking like there's some real good talent at that place, some of those girls I had good times with back when they were at Happy BKK. Man, I can't imagine how many new places and chicks there'd be by now in Bangkok. Have fun dude! I really miss all this, not even just the trips, but the weeks leading up to the trip, the anticipation, the excitement, the research on where you could go, what chicks you might bang. Man, if there's any reason to bother living life at all, this is it. Bangkok is it.[/QUOTE]Chill. Things do not Change fast in Bangkok or anywhere in Thailand.

Other than BTS and Mrt expanded nothing changes.

[QUOTE=Allover;2858516]The bbq place you are referring to is probably Smokin Pug. They recently opened another location on Sukhumvit Soi 20. Good bbq food.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that information! Much better location than Lumpini Park. I really recommend this place for any guy who likes a large portion of tender ribs. 1. 0 km from Soi Cowboy and 1. 3 km from Soi 24 Alley. I can see myself going after a nice afternoon massage. Damn it doesn't open til 5 pm.

Prep is done, research finished, hotels and flights booked. Hopefully have a good plan of attack for both tourism and TOURISM. However, getting in on a 9 pm flight from Inchon, figure by the time I get to my hotel by Nana Station, it will be between 11 and 12. I imagine I'll be ready to just lay down and relax, but if looking for a bit of company for the night without a lot of effort, what would be the recommendation? Smoochi? FiwFans? Or just walk down the street for a few minutes to Thermae, or hit up a BJ bar?

Can't wait! Thanks for the feedback.

[QUOTE=LR123;2859036]Prep is done, research finished, hotels and flights booked. Hopefully have a good plan of attack for both tourism and TOURISM. However, getting in on a 9 pm flight from Inchon, figure by the time I get to my hotel by Nana Station, it will be between 11 and 12. I imagine I'll be ready to just lay down and relax, but if looking for a bit of company for the night without a lot of effort, what would be the recommendation? Smoochi? FiwFans? Or just walk down the street for a few minutes to Thermae, or hit up a BJ bar?

Can't wait! Thanks for the feedback.[/QUOTE]Depends on you. I can't sleep on planes so I am always very tired when I arrive in Asia from the USA (not sure where you are coming from). I have learned the hard way to take it easy the first night. This is very true if you are taking any kind of sleeping medication. So I would choose the escort and then a good nights sleep.

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2858114]Patpong is the Worstest of the Worst known areas to play in.

In a line up of 6 girls. 2 are 7 out of 10. Okay Buddy.

I.[/QUOTE]Totally disagree. See my recent report a few pages back. I much preferred Patpong to Suk / Cowboy / Nana. Thaniya is not just for Japanese. I am not. And I had a fabulous time there several nights running.

[QUOTE=LR123;2859036]Prep is done, research finished, hotels and flights booked. Hopefully have a good plan of attack for both tourism and TOURISM. However, getting in on a 9 pm flight from Inchon, figure by the time I get to my hotel by Nana Station, it will be between 11 and 12. I imagine I'll be ready to just lay down and relax, but if looking for a bit of company for the night without a lot of effort, what would be the recommendation? Smoochi? FiwFans? Or just walk down the street for a few minutes to Thermae, or hit up a BJ bar?

Can't wait! Thanks for the feedback.[/QUOTE]I can't sleep that first night until I get laid. In February 2022 I was climbing the walls in my hotel while I waited for my 24-hour COVID test results. Smooci, FiwFans, ThaiFriendly, etc are not recommended because they can all turn into a can of worms. Your timing is perfect for walking along the odd side of Sukhumvit from Cowboy to Soi 5 (including Thermae) and then across Sukhumvit and down Soi 4. You are unlikely to find the hottest girl in town, but it will be near effortless to find something available with minimum effort. Be on the lookout for many overly friendly ladyboys.

[QUOTE=LR123;2859036]Prep is done, research finished, hotels and flights booked. Hopefully have a good plan of attack for both tourism and TOURISM. However, getting in on a 9 pm flight from Inchon, figure by the time I get to my hotel by Nana Station, it will be between 11 and 12. I imagine I'll be ready to just lay down and relax, but if looking for a bit of company for the night without a lot of effort, what would be the recommendation? Smoochi? FiwFans? Or just walk down the street for a few minutes to Thermae, or hit up a BJ bar?

Can't wait! Thanks for the feedback.[/QUOTE]Skip Smoochi and FiwiFans your first night.

There will be more than plenty readily available in the bars near Nana BTS at midnight through 1 am.

Head down Soi 7, Soi 7 Alley, Soi 11, and even across the road to Soi 8.

On top of that the walk from Soi 7 to just past Soi 11 will be filled with freelancers at that time, just take care to weed out the LB's if that's not your thing.

[QUOTE=LR123;2859036]Prep is done, research finished, hotels and flights booked. Hopefully have a good plan of attack for both tourism and TOURISM. However, getting in on a 9 pm flight from Inchon, figure by the time I get to my hotel by Nana Station, it will be between 11 and 12. I imagine I'll be ready to just lay down and relax, but if looking for a bit of company for the night without a lot of effort, what would be the recommendation? Smoochi? FiwFans? Or just walk down the street for a few minutes to Thermae, or hit up a BJ bar?

Can't wait! Thanks for the feedback.[/QUOTE]Smooci might be a particularly tough option in Bangkok if you are into young girls who will at least provide a BBBJ+CIM for the money.

Having just checked the site, I see 11 escorts available, only one still in her 20's. Claims to be in her late 20's at that.

Filter out for those who list a simple CIM as a service they provide and it reduces that number to 6. All of them are in their 30's or 40's. Their rock bottom quotes for ST range from 4,500 baht to 10,000 baht.

Mind you, that is for, at best for anyone hoping to experience something at least close to Real Sex with a female, a simple BBBJ+CIM.

Being stuck in the previous decade, Smooci does not even offer a "CIM+SWALLOW" or a "FS, NO CONDOM Ok" box in their escorts' services provided list for those 4,500 baht, 8,000 baht and 10,000 baht ST elderly ladies to check.

By comparison, the Schoolgirl FL a couple of posters here seem to be obsessed by might start to look pretty good as an option when you arrive. First of all, she is fit, slim, has light skin, even features and is not nearly as ugly as the obsessed posters let on. She would definitely be a Super Star on, say, Beach Road in Pattaya and likely rank among the more popular choices on Soi 6 there as well. LOL. He'll, she can and does get placed as a Greeter / Door Girl or an onstage gogo dancer in Bangkok just about any time she wants a more structured work environment for a while.

And even if she only provides the same limited services those 11 Smooci ladies provide, it would probably cost far less overall.

Hi all,

I'm back in Bangkok and here's the damage.

1. Smooci.

Smooci, although always overpriced, is a convenience thing for me. (usually) hassle-free girls sent to your room. If you click, some are pretty happy to give you their LINE as well.

Anyways, I heard through the grapevine smooci didn't pay their police fines or something, so the site doesn't appear to be working currently. Nevermind. Out of my room I go!

2. WOW Massage. Zara.

I returned to WOW after a pretty good experience there last time. It's location walking distance from Asok, and it's themed rooms are really fun for me, and I like the general vibe of the place. I also like that you can choose ladies in a lineup.

-reception and girl.

In the past, WOW's issue was not enough girls, but they seem to be putting some effort into fixing that. I picked a girl I saw last time named Zara. 23 years old, which is a sweet spot in age for me.

Her face is beautifully stern, she could easily be a model at her namesake store. Tall svelte body with honey skin. Good English as well.

-massage.

I opted for the longer relaxing 120 m nuru massage, with a 500 THB discount for VIP room (Thai Room). Usually, you want a more buxom girl to do a nuru, because the body-to-body feels better, but something about Zara's long legs and smooth skin felt really divine on the mat. I love a good nuru it's often better than the sex for me LOL! As she was sliding all over me, hard to tell where she ended and I started, we 69'd each other and I came in her mouth.

-bath.

We talked and relaxed in the bath as I recovered before moving to the bed for a cursory massage.

-sex.

After we had so much time on the mat buildup, sex with Zara felt sensual and passionate. Typical spinner sex, with multiple positions and end in doggie.

3. Vodka. FiwFans.

FiwFans is super hit or miss. I'd say riskier than nana because picking a photoshopped girl sight unseen is a huge gamble.

-room and girl.

Vodka's room is a studio in a hotel at the top of Thonglor. I was her first customer of the day at 4 pm, she looked very tired and not too excited to see me. I think in general she's just a very quiet shy girl.

Her looks are pretty close to the profile photos, very skinny and young face. Black hair instead of blond, which I prefer anyway.

-Shower.

Vodka hopped in the shower with me and gave my cock a cursory washdown.

-Bed.

Started as usual with a decent massage. Better than you expect a young cute girl to be. Blowjob also not too bad, with some 69 as well.

Sex, cowgirl and doggie pretty good, but it was sort of up to me to make the effort.

-Overall.

Vodka was an extremely nice girl. I reserved 90 m 2 shots, but it was pretty obvious we wouldn't get the 2nd one, so she offered I pay the lesser amount.

Overall WIR? Probably not, but the experience wasn't bad. Just not mind-blowing.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2859194]By comparison, the Schoolgirl FL a couple of posters here seem to be obsessed by might start to look pretty good as an option when you arrive. First of all, she is fit, slim, has light skin, even features and is not nearly as ugly as the obsessed posters let on. She would definitely be a Super Star on, say, Beach Road in Pattaya and likely rank among the more popular choices on Soi 6 there as well. LOL. He'll, she can and does get placed as a Greeter / Door Girl or an onstage gogo dancer in Bangkok just about any time she wants a more structured work environment for a while.

And even if she only provides the same limited services those 11 Smooci ladies provide, it would probably cost far less overall.[/QUOTE]Oh dude you are a master but she is so wierd and ugly. You are correct though, rolling off a plane all crazed and rampant after dreaming for months and months even I might grab her after a doobie and a few 7-11 beers. Thank god I am not like that anymore.

I guess if she is what ya get in Pattaya these days, I'm glad I haven't gone in years and years.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2859291]Oh dude you are a master but she is so wierd and ugly. You are correct though, rolling off a plane all crazed and rampant after dreaming for months and months even I might grab her after a doobie and a few 7-11 beers. Thank god I am not like that anymore.

I guess if she is what ya get in Pattaya these days, I'm glad I haven't gone in years and years.[/QUOTE]Last night I strolled beach road Pattaya. School Girl would have been 2nd from the Bottom in terms of Hotness. OMG, there was an obese dark skin shortie trying her Luck.

On the bright side there were a few that were Attractive. I was surprised. Not that I'd pay my 500 baht though-. I'm scared of them. LOL.

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Anyways, I heard through the grapevine smooci didn't pay their police fines or something, so the site doesn't appear to be working currently. Nevermind. Out of my room I go!

Yes, news reports in Bangkok Post and other media sources confirm that Smooci, at least for the time being, has been drummed out of business. It's unclear if this is due to not paying tea money or due to some other factors. I used it a few times when I did not feel like going out and dealing with the bars, bar fine, bad weather, etc. So it's a pity that they are no longer in business.

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2859367]Last night I strolled beach road Pattaya. School Girl would have been 2nd from the Bottom in terms of Hotness. OMG, there was an obese dark skin shortie trying her Luck.

On the bright side there were a few that were Attractive. I was surprised. Not that I'd pay my 500 baht though-. I'm scared of them. LOL.[/QUOTE]I spent 5 days and nights in Pattaya last month. A Thursday through a Tuesday. I cruised down Walking Street and along Beach Road almost every night, down Soi 6 only on the Saturday night. Being merely fit, slim and relatively well proportioned, the Bkk Schoolgirl FL's body would blow away 95% of the girls I saw on Beach Road on any day or night I was there. She would easily rank among the top 25% I saw that Saturday night on Soi 6. And it was packed.

The weird clothing and weird demeanor on interacting with her aside, I am just talking about basic body fitness and proportions. Add to which her skin is light and there is absolutely nothing standout "ugly" about her face. No giant chin, no bug eyes, no big nose, no monster scars or bizarre cosmetic surgery results. She has perfectly average, even facial features. I'm not touting her incomparable beauty or head turning Hotness. LOL. Although, I believe many punters, even experienced ones, might see her that way. I am just stating the facts about her physical appearance.

Now let's add another factor contributing to my assessment that she would be quite popular and busy on Beach Road or Soi 6 in Pattaya; the general customer demographic.

You think she would stand around for hours with nothing to do, no approaches, no offers and no takers in those two locations where the going rate is somewhere from 1,000 to 1,500 baht, room included? I don't.

You do realize she is actually not hurting for customers in Bangkok, right? That's why she can ignore most of the men who approach her without looking up from her smartphone screen, an observation I believe you made about her way back when if I remember correctly.

I have met her, have had a nodding, smiling and brief chatting acquaintance with her since before Covid. Seen her working as a Nana Plaza greeter just pre-Covid. Seen her working onstage, bottomless, in Crazy House. Seen her working as a door girl in various lower Sukhumvit bars. And I see her virtually every night I go out, many times with a customer. I see her engaged with, leaving with a customer or sitting with one in a restaurant in any 5 day period more than I saw girls on Beach Road engaged with and leaving with a customer in that 5 day period I was there last month.

Mind you, I did not say "that is what you get in Pattaya. " I only suggested she would be very popular and busy if she worked on Beach Road or Soi 6 in Pattaya, where there are tons of fat, squat, sloppy, ugly ladies for rent. There are also tons of fat, squat, sloppy, ugly ladies on Soi 4 and Sukhumvit Road in Bangkok for rent. Sorry, but that Schoolgirl FL is not one of them.

Again, that is not an assessment of whatever weird demeanor a potential customer might or might not sense about her before he agrees to her terms and takes her. LOL. That is a different issue from her looks. And some punters might be intrigued by and attracted to that aspect of her while others are repelled by it.

[URL]https://www4.bestjavporn.com/video/wanz-101-decensored/[/URL]

Possible our Nana Schoolgirl will turn into this one day.

How many Homely Schoolgirls turn into absolut Beauties later in life.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2859529]The weird clothing and weird demeanor on interacting with her aside, I am just talking about basic body fitness and proportions. Add to which her skin is light and there is absolutely nothing standout "ugly" about her face. No giant chin, no bug eyes, no big nose, no monster scars or bizarre cosmetic surgery results. She has perfectly average, even facial features. I'm not touting her incomparable beauty or head turning Hotness. LOL.[/QUOTE]I believe I saw her during my trip in August. She was near the Nana BTS entrance near Soi 7. She was staring at her phone and I was walking quickly and didn't get a good look at her face. I did a search here to see her picture again but couldn't find it. But when I saw her I did not get the impression she was ugly or hideous. She seemed kind of average. I don't understand why she is singled out as ugly here. If I saw her pic again I might change my mind though.

Who is this girl you guys keep talking about? Anyone have a photo of her or can point her out on one of the daily YouTube walking videos?

As we all know guys all have different taste in women. Otherwise 98.25% of the girls I don't like in Thailand would be starving.

Had a nice two nights stay in Bangkok after Pattaya.

Not a lot of people. Did visit Soi Cowboy, watched girls. Did not barfine. Found a nice girl to stay with. Not going to share details.

All Points Bulletin.

I was Strolling to Soi 6 near Yellow Massage when I saw this Small Girl with Orange Hair. Upon closer examination it looked like Baitoey. Hahaha.

I could be wrong on this one Guys.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2859837]Who is this girl you guys keep talking about? Anyone have a photo of her or can point her out on one of the daily YouTube walking videos?

As we all know guys all have different taste in women. Otherwise 98.25% of the girls I don't like in Thailand would be starving.[/QUOTE]LOL. I have not seen a clear, prolonged, full body and face photo or video of her. And I have never taken one of her. My guess is if she suspected someone was filming her she would turn away.

She can usually be seen on Sukhumvit between Soi 11 and Soi 3. But, as mentioned, she might as often be working as a doorgirl or greeter in a Nana Plaza or Soi Cowboy area bar. Or dancing in a gogo bar in either venue. She has enough of an attractive look about her to be welcome by the owners and mamasans for such a placement in any case.

On the street or at a bar entrance, look for her to be wearing a very short scotch plaid skirt. Because her legs are good enough for her to get away with it.

Look for her to also wear a bare midriff top, revealing her stomach and mid section. Again, because with her body fitness level she can get away with it.

That is in contrast to the usual overdressed coverage for many female freelancers on Beach Road in Pattaya or Soi 4 and Sukhumvit Road in Bangkok where the girl is generally trying to hide a roll or two of flab hanging over her waistband and a dress long enough to hide her fat, flabby ass and thick, thunder thighs.

Aside from the identifiable clothing, I submit that any punter reading this who wanders around that area trying to find her by looking for a particularly hideously ugly lady as seems to be the assessment of a couple of posters here will never guess she is that "Schoolgirl" freelancer they were slamming for her supposed ugliness. LOL.

Yes, I know the name she goes by. The name she told me 2-3 years ago, that is. Buy I am not inclined to post it since she has been the object of derision here so often, particularly about her physical appearance. Quite unfairly and unjustifiably so, imo.

Speaking of photos, below are photos of the old Beergarden Soi 7 entrance that has now been converted to an expansion of those Soi 7 collection of bars apparently now known as 7 Center Point.

Taken yesterday. Depending on how far along the bar cubicles are behind those doors, I wouldn't be surprised if they were open for business in the next 2-3 weeks.

Then again, if any doable girls in the expansion bars are as resistant to getting barfined to have sex with customers as most of the doable girls are in the other bars in this venue, it would only be of interest to lonlihearts who buy Ladydrinks simply to have a drinking buddy.

Hi Sammon, congrats on this gem. She is an easy 8 in my books. If I can ask what all did the she do and how much did you spend on her. And most importantly where did you find her. TF / smooci escorts bar or street pick up or inside a mall. Your reply helps us all bring our A game on the scene, not asking for her contacts. Cheers.

[QUOTE=Sammon;2859851]Had a nice two nights stay in Bangkok after Pattaya.

Not a lot of people. Did visit Soi Cowboy, watched girls. Did not barfine. Found a nice girl to stay with. Not going to share details.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2809248]Is the girl at 14:05 the one you describe? Her legs look thicker in this video than in reality, she also looks prettier in person.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ee5XzoPN6Y[/URL][/QUOTE]Banana Boi and others: I believe this is the "school girl" that has been referenced. Personally, I think she looks good. But as ET points out, she is a flake.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2859886]LOL. I have not seen a clear, prolonged, full body and face photo or video of her. And I have never taken one of her. My guess is if she suspected someone was filming her she would turn away.

She can usually be seen on Sukhumvit between Soi 11 and Soi 3. But, as mentioned, she might as often be working as a doorgirl or greeter in a Nana Plaza or Soi Cowboy area bar. Or dancing in a gogo bar in either venue. She has enough of an attractive look about her to be welcome by the owners and mamasans for such a placement in any case.

On the street or at a bar entrance, look for her to be wearing a very short scotch plaid skirt. Because her legs are good enough for her to get away with it.

Look for her to also wear a bare midriff top, revealing her stomach and mid section. Again, because with her body fitness level she can get away with it.

That is in contrast to the usual overdressed coverage for many female freelancers on Beach Road in Pattaya or Soi 4 and Sukhumvit Road in Bangkok where the girl is generally trying to hide a roll or two of flab hanging over her waistband and a dress long enough to hide her fat, flabby ass and thick, thunder thighs.

Aside from the identifiable clothing, I submit that any punter reading this who wanders around that area trying to find her by looking for a particularly hideously ugly lady as seems to be the assessment of a couple of posters here will never guess she is that "Schoolgirl" freelancer they were slamming for her supposed ugliness. LOL.

Yes, I know the name she goes by. The name she told me 2-3 years ago, that is. Buy I am not inclined to post it since she has been the object of derision here so often, particularly about her physical appearance. Quite unfairly and unjustifiably so, imo.[/QUOTE]Her Hotness is Zerro on a Zerro to 5 scale.

I'm calling Rooms on being Sarcastic.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2859974]Banana Boi and others: I believe this is the "school girl" that has been referenced. Personally, I think she looks good. But as ET points out, she is a flake.[/QUOTE]Oh this girl. Average Thai girl. Big thighs and calves. I wouldn't make fun of her but I also wouldn't be picking her up. Why when there are so much better down the street in Thermae?

ET, comparing BKK girls to those things you see on Beach Road in Pattaya imo gives the wrong impression of what Pattaya has to offer. Those are bottom of the barrel in Pattaya. They're like the hookers that work Lumpini Park. They're for cheap guys who don't care more than the girl has a hole or 3. Everyone knows if a Farang wants half decent girls in Pattaya you have to go inside the top gogo bars. Don't judge by YouTube videos on what you see outside. Otherwise they need to be persistent like me and keep going to real G clubs on a weekly basis. Soi 6 is a crap shoot too again suited for guys on a budget but if you go 7 days in a row when the soi isn't busy you will find a girl.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2859974]Banana Boi and others: I believe this is the "school girl" that has been referenced. Personally, I think she looks good. But as ET points out, she is a flake.[/QUOTE]Thanks HorseTrader. I'm sure that is the girl and I did see her at that same spot in August. I think she is decent looking and certainly not worthy of discussion about her being ugly.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2859984]They're like the hookers that work Lumpini Park. They're for cheap guys who don't care more than the girl has a hole or 3. [/QUOTE]Oh I wasn't sure if Lumpini Park FL was still a thing. My friends Thai GF told us about it so we went to check out it around 10 pm but maybe was in the wrong area and didn't see anyone. Sounds like I probably wouldn't pick anyone up since I do frequent Thermae but guess I'll check it out again my next try just to browse.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2859984]Oh this girl. Average Thai girl. Big thighs and calves. I wouldn't make fun of her but I also wouldn't be picking her up. Why when there are so much better down the street in Thermae?

ET, comparing BKK girls to those things you see on Beach Road in Pattaya imo gives the wrong impression of what Pattaya has to offer. Those are bottom of the barrel in Pattaya. They're like the hookers that work Lumpini Park. They're for cheap guys who don't care more than the girl has a hole or 3. Everyone knows if a Farang wants half decent girls in Pattaya you have to go inside the top gogo bars. Don't judge by YouTube videos on what you see outside. Otherwise they need to be persistent like me and keep going to real G clubs on a weekly basis. Soi 6 is a crap shoot too again suited for guys on a budget but if you go 7 days in a row when the soi isn't busy you will find a girl.[/QUOTE]BB, my assessment and original comment was that the Bangkok street girl in question would do well on Beach Road and Soi 6 in Pattaya because her looks were at least above average for those particular locations. Which I think you essentially just agreed with me about, although you only cited Beach Road and not Soi 6. It was another poster who incorrectly concluded that I was suggesting that she "is what you get in Pattaya. " But that isn't what I said.

I concede that there are many girls in better shape and with cuter faces on Soi 6 in Pattaya. But not a majority of them by a long shot. I agree with Horse Trader that her legs look better and she looks better in person than in that one brief video clip of her just standing in an unflattering position.

I would also submit that an "average" Thai girl of "average" weight, height and looks would rank among the top 25% of the girls one finds on Soi 6 in Pattaya. So if she is "average" by your or my judgement, well. I stand by what I said about her regarding Soi 6.

And, sure, same as Raj Patela, I too even saw occasional clusters of surprisingly attractive freelancers standing on Beach Road in Pattaya last month.

In the dark.

From a distance.

However, when I got within 4-5 meters of them, almost to a person they turned out to be Ladyboys.

So, again. I stand by what I said about the Bangkok street girl, a natural born female, compared to the natural born females on Beach Road, not the Ladyboys on Beach Road.

Hello Gents.

I am coming to Thailand for 45 days and I needed to see if someone was willing to connect and give me information about Bangkok specifically, and Thailand. I have read all the forums, websites, and even some old friends. However I was wondering if someone has been recently or lives there that can advise. Looking for information on.

1. Holiday GF. I looked at other options and think this might be my best bet. Given I want to travel and enjoy someones company.

2. Hotels no more than $100 total price. I like to find best bang for your buck. Something comfortable, spacious, king bed. Cheaper is better!

3. A full breakdown of these spots and more if available (massage, gogo, strip clubs, BJ bars, regular bars, thermae, nana, soi cowboy, sukhumvit, any others?

4. Any places you might recommend to visit?

5. Anything else you can add please do.

My goal: Find a chick or multiple different in different areas to connect with. Travel thailand, explore and have fun with said many women. I want to checkout chiang mai, phuket and krabi island and beach vibes, Bangkok. I don't have any appetite for Pattaya. Seems more like a monger scene with not much else. Would like to relax and enjoy the vibes, see the nature, see the temples, explore the historic places, elephant sanctuary and more!

Anways I would love to connect with someone. I did make some post in Colombia as its my speciality to give back and. I'm younger. Just want to have fun and enjoy life for a few months.

[QUOTE=Lcale1982;2859998]Oh I wasn't sure if Lumpini Park FL was still a thing. My friends Thai GF told us about it so we went to check out it around 10 pm but maybe was in the wrong area and didn't see anyone. Sounds like I probably wouldn't pick anyone up since I do frequent Thermae but guess I'll check it out again my next try just to browse.[/QUOTE]I haven't seen a Lumpini Park hooker in years.

I have to go over there for some Polo Fried Chicken.

MSKAT is Gorgeous then. Please chime in. She isn't a Bargirl but she knows THEM.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5RZftRvzi8[/URL]

Hahahahahahahahahaha.

P.S. MSKAT does Balloons. Nitrous Oxide.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=****7wIuRGw[/URL]

Please rate the 3 girls at 2:00.

No Shame if you get the answers WRONG.

Do we have any other alternative app? Hope they get back soon.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;2859488]Anyways, I heard through the grapevine smooci didn't pay their police fines or something, so the site doesn't appear to be working currently. Nevermind. Out of my room I go!

Yes, news reports in Bangkok Post and other media sources confirm that Smooci, at least for the time being, has been drummed out of business. It's unclear if this is due to not paying tea money or due to some other factors. I used it a few times when I did not feel like going out and dealing with the bars, bar fine, bad weather, etc. So it's a pity that they are no longer in business.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2860054][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=****7wIuRGw[/URL]

Please rate the 3 girls at 2:00.

No Shame if you get the answers WRONG.[/QUOTE]Think the link got censored, it doesn't work when I click it.

This is Thailand and there will always be things going on that mystify non-Thais. That said, whenever I am somewhere and the local providers are not even demonstrating the smallest of interest, it may be because I don't fit the profile. I have heart that Thermae is more a Japanese hunting ground these days and so at least some of the young girls will be hoping for the one big spender Japanese guy who will pay twice or three times what a falang will pay. Just a thought. You can find better hunting elsewhere. . . . .

[QUOTE=SkipJack06;2856798]I was there last spring I stayed in the Ruamchitt hotel above. There are a lot of young, attractive ladies there in the basement bar area some weren't very friendly. Mostly the older ladies were the friendliest. The bar require the men buy a drink upon entering; one of the ladies said they have to pay 50 baht to enter. Then there's women just outside-some attractive-that would hustle very aggressively for a date. I took a couple of the older ones from the bar to my room I think they charged like 1000-1500 baht or so. One night I stayed until 2 am closing it seemed most of the ladies left alone. The whole scene didn't make a lot of sense to me; what's the purpose of the ladies going there if they don't leave with a date? There's plenty of men walking around browsing. Seems like it would be a waste of time for the ladies to spend time there and then leave alone.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BigBear;2860042]Hello Gents.

I am coming to Thailand for 45 days and I needed to see if someone was willing to connect and give me information about Bangkok specifically, and Thailand. I have read all the forums, websites, and even some old friends. However I was wondering if someone has been recently or lives there that can advise. Looking for information on.

1. Holiday GF. I looked at other options and think this might be my best bet. Given I want to travel and enjoy someones company.

2. Hotels no more than $100 total price. I like to find best bang for your buck. Something comfortable, spacious, king bed. Cheaper is better!

3. A full breakdown of these spots and more if available (massage, gogo, strip clubs, BJ bars, regular bars, thermae, nana, soi cowboy, sukhumvit, any others?

4. Any places you might recommend to visit?

5. Anything else you can add please do.

My goal: Find a chick or multiple different in different areas to connect with. Travel thailand, explore and have fun with said many women. I want to checkout chiang mai, phuket and krabi island and beach vibes, Bangkok. I don't have any appetite for Pattaya. Seems more like a monger scene with not much else. Would like to relax and enjoy the vibes, see the nature, see the temples, explore the historic places, elephant sanctuary and more!

Anways I would love to connect with someone. I did make some post in Colombia as its my speciality to give back and. I'm younger. Just want to have fun and enjoy life for a few months.[/QUOTE]You are kidding, right? Those are humourous questions, right? I love number 3, would you like it laid out a), b), C) with subsections or is stream of consiouusness OK?

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2860270]You are kidding, right? Those are humourous questions, right? I love number 3, would you like it laid out a), b), C) with subsections or is stream of consiouusness OK?[/QUOTE]Hey Bud, its really nice that you took the time to respond in such a manner. But to respond to this, YES, yes I am looking for someone to help me out. Just like IF YOU were down in San Diego and wanted to go to Tijuana, ID be like "what's gucci homie, ill show you the ropes". Its the west coast kinda vibes we got. Obviously you're lacking that and we don't have to interact.

SO Anyways, IF SOMEONE ELSE would be a fucking homie and connect with me, ID appreciate it! Like I said, I am looking for help around understanding it. Likewise if you need advice on anywhere I've been, I'm more than happy to help guide you in Latin America.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2859945]Hi Sammon, congrats on this gem. She is an easy 8 in my books. If I can ask what all did the she do and how much did you spend on her. And most importantly where did you find her. TF / smooci escorts bar or street pick up or inside a mall. Your reply helps us all bring our A game on the scene, not asking for her contacts. Cheers.[/QUOTE]I met her at the mall nearest to 24 street, sukumvit train station. Forget the name of the mall. Interestingly I was looking for a nice McDonald's meal after being tired of eating delicious Thai meals. It is so funny once in a while I crave McDonald's to remind me of my home while traveling. This gir was behind me in the line. I turned around and smiled at her and said you can go ahead. She spoke fairly good English. I paid for meals and we ate together. Not knowing who she is I asked her if she would have dinner with me. She asked me what hotel I am staying at. She came to the hotel and was very impressed by the corner room with a wide view I got. We started getting intimate right away and no objections. Went to dinner and back to hotel. Very pleasant and nice smelling girl. Ended up staying two nights. I put $300 in her purse in dollar bills. It was worth it. We talked about taking a vacation together on my next trip. Do not know how old she but looks to be late 20 s. All I have is her line contact but not much info about her, her job, her life. Nice friendly company like most Thai girls are. Did not want to probe into her life. Sex was with condom. Small boobs though.

[QUOTE=SkipJack06;2856798]I was there last spring I stayed in the Ruamchitt hotel above. There are a lot of young, attractive ladies there in the basement bar area some weren't very friendly. Mostly the older ladies were the friendliest. The bar require the men buy a drink upon entering; one of the ladies said they have to pay 50 baht to enter. Then there's women just outside-some attractive-that would hustle very aggressively for a date. I took a couple of the older ones from the bar to my room I think they charged like 1000-1500 baht or so. One night I stayed until 2 am closing it seemed most of the ladies left alone. The whole scene didn't make a lot of sense to me; what's the purpose of the ladies going there if they don't leave with a date? There's plenty of men walking around browsing. Seems like it would be a waste of time for the ladies to spend time there and then leave alone.[/QUOTE]Nice insight. Something I refuse to investigate on my own.

I've always wondered if there was a Rush to barfine the 3's and 4's at the end of the night.

We're the Nana Rainbow girls who get No action during prime time Scooped up at Closing.

They just as unattractive at 2 am as they are at 9 pm. LOL.

On the few night I'm at Nana at midnight, deu to late plane arrival, I see only Muglies, Fuglies, Zuglies left on Stage.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2860270]You are kidding, right? Those are humourous questions, right? I love number 3, would you like it laid out a), b), C) with subsections or is stream of consiouusness OK?[/QUOTE]AND he's managed to ask all of those questions after only two posts. Unbelievable.

Dear friends.

I am in Bangkok on 18th and 19th of October. Living in Shukumvit area.

Can you please suggest.

1) a very good massage parlour for good body to body massage in this Shukumvit area?

2) I am really looking for a European or Russian girl for a bang. Thai is easily available in India. Can you please suggest where to go for pick up or order? Is grace or Rajah hotel still in business for these? How much you pay?

Thank you for your help.

Jackey.

[QUOTE=BigBear;2860274]Hey Bud, its really nice that you took the time to respond in such a manner. But to respond to this, YES, yes I am looking for someone to help me out. Just like IF YOU were down in San Diego and wanted to go to Tijuana, ID be like "what's gucci homie, ill show you the ropes". Its the west coast kinda vibes we got. Obviously you're lacking that and we don't have to interact.

SO Anyways, IF SOMEONE ELSE would be a fucking homie and connect with me, ID appreciate it! Like I said, I am looking for help around understanding it. Likewise if you need advice on anywhere I've been, I'm more than happy to help guide you in Latin America.[/QUOTE]If I was going to Tijuana (again) I would just go to the appropriate forum, read back for a year or two, use the search button, and then I wouldn't need to ask general questions.

But that's just me.

I hate to repeat myself because I sound like an ass kiss, but in terms of traveling and mongering in SE Asia, these Forum guys here are maintaining the Wikpedia Of Thai Mongering right here. Bet every one of your questions has been asked and answered in the past few months.

If you were looking for something obscure, like where the escalators are on Suk so you can cross from one side to the other, there is a Search button.

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2860279]Nice insight. Something I refuse to investigate on my own.

I've always wondered if there was a Rush to barfine the 3's and 4's at the end of the night.

We're the Nana Rainbow girls who get No action during prime time Scooped up at Closing.

They just as unattractive at 2 am as they are at 9 pm. LOL.

On the few night I'm at Nana at midnight, deu to late plane arrival, I see only Muglies, Fuglies, Zuglies left on Stage.[/QUOTE]I'm down there once a month for closing time, and yes, the hotties are usually scooped up by closing. On the other hand, pay attention closely and you will see the dancers around in their civvy garb looking for one last.

I like Thermae area around closing.

[QUOTE=Jacky22;2860341]Dear friends.

I am in Bangkok on 18th and 19th of October. Living in Shukumvit area.

Can you please suggest.

1) a very good massage parlour for good body to body massage in this Shukumvit area?

2) I am really looking for a European or Russian girl for a bang. Thai is easily available in India. Can you please suggest where to go for pick up or order? Is grace or Rajah hotel still in business for these? How much you pay?.[/QUOTE]Grace Hotel is open. Rajah is gone I think, I haven't paid much attention when I am down there. The rest of your questions are answered a few pages back. If you want to know pricing, check the escort sites. You should consider going to Phuket.

[QUOTE=Stykler;2860327]AND he's managed to ask all of those questions after only two posts. Unbelievable.[/QUOTE]I think what makes me cranky is the fact that I have been on this Forum for years and years and 99% of the stuff folks ask is asked and answered. Search button. Although its tough to search out the answer to "Hi, I'm coming to Bangkok for the first time, where can I find a hot babe."

Geez dudes, have some self respect.

[QUOTE=Stykler;2860327]AND he's managed to ask all of those questions after only two posts. Unbelievable.[/QUOTE]Not actually true. I made 4 reports, my last account was having issues. Admin made me another account. I was just seeing that only 1 post mad it and it was a post asking for help. So you are right, but I will be fixing this shortly.

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2860053]MSKAT is Gorgeous then. Please chime in. She isn't a Bargirl but she knows THEM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5RZftRvzi8[/QUOTE]Explorer was right! My Thai girl lied cause clearly from the video her HAMSTER is still alive!

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2860016]I too even saw occasional clusters of surprisingly attractive freelancers standing on Beach Road in Pattaya last month.

In the dark.

From a distance.

However, when I got within 4-5 meters of them, almost to a person they turned out to be Ladyboys.[/QUOTE]Always the case on BR. I still don't understand why guys who like girls spend their time suffering through Beach Road instead of being with decent girls in a top gogo bar. To each their own I guess.

LOng time I haven't been in BKK. I was a fan of the Biergarten in Soi 7, with quite many very nice and still good-looking ladies, mostly kind, with good service and no hustle; It seems to me that it must have disappeared. ANy info if it still exists or moved to another place? Thanks!

[QUOTE=BigBear;2860042]Hello Gents.

I am coming to Thailand for 45 days and enjoy life for a few months.[/QUOTE]Sure, I am happy to help. I'm a fellow west coaster so.

Your questions:

1. Holiday GF.

-try Thai Friendly pre-trip (be upfront with girls about your intentions) and Thermae once you arrive to scope out girls in person. Note that the holiday GF can turn into a holiday nightmare halfway through the trip, and regardless, you will never be able to leave her in your room with your wallet / passport unattended without worrying.

2. Hotels no more than $100 total price.

-I recommend an Airbnb in the Asoke area; there are lots of nice units with no nosy front staff in this price range. If room and maid service are required, there will be hotels in the same area (be sure to check if they are "guest friendly" first); just don't pay less than $50 or the room will be dismal.

3. A full breakdown of these spots and more if available (massage, gogo, strip clubs, BJ bars, regular bars, thermae, nana, soi cowboy, Sukhumvit, any others?

Oh boy! I can only do so much. Here's a sampling of my own thoughts:

-massage: most places with girls sitting outside and rates of about 300-400 be per hour will offer a HJ and maybe BJ for extra near the end of the massage; try the shops on Sukhumvit Soi 23, Soi 22 or the stretch between Nana and Asoke.

-gogo and strip: not my thing, sorry.

-BJ bars: Lolitas, Kaasalong, Duangporn's Haven and Wood for a grimy room and a willing girl to get on her knees and take it in her mouth when the time comes (800 B), and Seven Heaven for a more upscale CIM experience with a prettier girl ( 1400 B). You can also try to negotiate at a place that usually offers FS, such as the places on Soi 24/1. Lastly you could always go to a bar like Toy or Afterskool in Soi Cowboy for a BJ in full view of everyone (prices vary depending on how many scams and bait switches they pull).

-Thermae (and the street outside): is a pretty good bet if you are seeking GFE with FS. You are likely to find an office girl in a pretty dress; be sure to negotiate your full expectations before you depart for your place. Some girls there are looking for Japanese or younger guys only, so watch for a girl who is smiling at you.

4. Places to visit.

-too many to mention! Just one tip: instead of visiting an elephant show (AKA "prison" where they force the animals to perform stupid tricks for you), go to an elephant sanctuary where they rescue these amazing creatures, and you get to learn about them, feed them and ultimately help them stay away from the horrors of captive performance or worse, street performance!

5. Anything else you can add please do.

-test yourself before and after your trip.

-wash and pee after each encounter.

-remember that you can easily get PrEP in Bangkok (e. G. Pulse Clinic)!

[QUOTE=BigBear;2860042]Hello Gents.

I am coming to Thailand for 45 days and I needed to see if someone was willing to connect and give me information about Bangkok specifically, and Thailand. I have read all the forums, websites, and even some old friends. However I was wondering if someone has been recently or lives there that can advise. Looking for information on.

1. Holiday GF. I looked at other options and think this might be my best bet. Given I want to travel and enjoy someones company.

2. Hotels no more than $100 total price. I like to find best bang for your buck. Something comfortable, spacious, king bed. Cheaper is better!

3. A full breakdown of these spots and more if available (massage, gogo, strip clubs, BJ bars, regular bars, thermae, nana, soi cowboy, sukhumvit, any others?

4. Any places you might recommend to visit?

5. Anything else you can add please do.

My goal: Find a chick or multiple different in different areas to connect with. Travel thailand, explore and have fun with said many women. I want to checkout chiang mai, phuket and krabi island and beach vibes, Bangkok. I don't have any appetite for Pattaya. Seems more like a monger scene with not much else. Would like to relax and enjoy the vibes, see the nature, see the temples, explore the historic places, elephant sanctuary and more!

Anways I would love to connect with someone. I did make some post in Colombia as its my speciality to give back and. I'm younger. Just want to have fun and enjoy life for a few months.[/QUOTE]Dude, I think if you have the time and funds to enjoy life in Thailand for 45 days, I think you should go in without too much preamble. It'll be like the way most of us explored Thailand back in the day before the internet and all that. The excitement, the adventures you'd be on, you'll never know what's around the corner. Frodo, it's something nuts when you step out the door, you'll never know where you'll end up, said Bilbo, something like that. I'd say use the usual amount of common sense when traveling, maybe don't bother too much with escorts, Thailand ain't Montreal after all. Do those things them young people do at the backpacker areas, with all that time, you never know who you'd meet, you might end up teaching English there and staying permanent. If you go in with too much research and way too much planned, it'll be less of a sex vacation trip and more kinda work again. Go with the flow, maybe stick with the oilies, if you're on a budget, maybe skip the soapies, and then nowadays with how much more pricey bar girls are, go to nana and cowboy for the atmosphere and drinks, and only once in a while pick a chick back. But if you've got game, and since you've got time, you're better off aiming for civilian chicks. Remember, Asia in general, the chicks will worship the ground you walk on just cause you're a white guy, even if you look like Danny-freakin-Devito. Make the most of your 45 days man, you're luckier than most of us. Man, it ain't so much I wish I was dead, it's more that I wish I was never born.

[QUOTE=Jacky22;2860341]Dear friends.

I am in Bangkok on 18th and 19th of October. Living in Shukumvit area.

Can you please suggest.

1) a very good massage parlour for good body to body massage in this Shukumvit area?

2) I am really looking for a European or Russian girl for a bang. Thai is easily available in India. Can you please suggest where to go for pick up or order? Is grace or Rajah hotel still in business for these? How much you pay?

Thank you for your help.

Jackey.[/QUOTE]I personally don't think it's easy to find white chicks in Bangkok, it was easier back in the day, but nowadays it's pricey and for what you might get, maybe not the best product. We get older, but the chicks should stay the same age. I mean, Prague is still the best bet if you're aiming for white chicks. Sure, you can find them kazakh types in clubs in Bangkok, but you can find them too in them fancy big cities in the emirates, qatar, etc. If you're in Thailand, eat Thai, buy Thai, and of course fuck Thai. It'd be like going to Vienna to look for Thai chicks, sure you'd find some, but not at the quality and accessibility you'd find in Thailand. You sound like a fella with money burning a hole in your pocket, if you be really fancying some blonde vagina, I'd say go to Prague. But if you must, white escorts are available in Bangkok, but oh boy, they cost a pretty penny. And there's always the russian chicks in them gogobars of Pattaya. A lot of them look pretty damn good, but I can't certify to their quality in bed though. Believe you me, them white chicks, when they're in South East Asia, be it civilian or working girls, they know they exist at a premium, you sure you want to pay that premium? You're getting the short end of the stick. But if you go to Frankfurt, or Vienna, etc. They be just another white chick and you'd have your pick of the lot, and there be a lot.

[QUOTE=BigBear;2860042]1. Holiday GF. I looked at other options and think this might be my best bet. Given I want to travel and enjoy someones company.[/QUOTE]This is the dream of many guys who come to Thailand for the first time but from seeing many friends come to Thailand for the first time it's best not to commit to anything. Since you have 45 days your best bet is to go to Bangkok or Pattaya first and meet a girl you think looks good and you get along with. Give it the first week to meet a girl and take her out of the bar and go around the city for an entire day and overnight. That way you get a feel on how a trip elsewhere will go. Then go on a short 2 or 3 day trip somewhere first. If you like her keep her. If not, find another girl. This way you really haven't committed much time before you move on.

Having said all this my opinion is the usual go with the flow attitude. Don't go searching for this stuff and don't force it. Just enjoy your time in Thailand. Too many girls to commit to one.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2860552]This is the dream of many guys who come to Thailand for the first time but from seeing many friends come to Thailand for the first time it's best not to commit to anything. Since you have 45 days your best bet is to go to Bangkok or Pattaya first and meet a girl you think looks good and you get along with. Give it the first week to meet a girl and take her out of the bar and go around the city for an entire day and overnight. That way you get a feel on how a trip elsewhere will go. Then go on a short 2 or 3 day trip somewhere first. If you like her keep her. If not, find another girl. This way you really haven't committed much time before you move on.

Having said all this my opinion is the usual go with the flow attitude. Don't go searching for this stuff and don't force it. Just enjoy your time in Thailand. Too many girls to commit to one.[/QUOTE]If you are young and in shape you should be doing two-three different ones a day. Why go all the way over there for your first or second trip and not hump everyone you can find.

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2860546]Dude, I think if you have the time and funds to enjoy life in Thailand for 45 days, I think you should go in without too much preamble. It'll be like the way most of us explored Thailand back in the day before the internet and all that. The excitement, the adventures you'd be on, you'll never know what's around the corner. Frodo, it's something nuts when you step out the door, you'll never know where you'll end up, said Bilbo, something like that. I'd say use the usual amount of common sense when traveling, maybe don't bother too much with escorts, Thailand ain't Montreal after all. Do those things them young people do at the backpacker areas, with all that time, you never know who you'd meet, you might end up teaching English there and staying permanent. If you go in with too much research and way too much planned, it'll be less of a sex vacation trip and more kinda work again. Go with the flow, maybe stick with the oilies, if you're on a budget, maybe skip the soapies, and then nowadays with how much more pricey bar girls are, go to nana and cowboy for the atmosphere and drinks, and only once in a while pick a chick back. But if you've got game, and since you've got time, you're better off aiming for civilian chicks. Remember, Asia in general, the chicks will worship the ground you walk on just cause you're a white guy, even if you look like Danny-freakin-Devito. Make the most of your 45 days man, you're luckier than most of us. Man, it ain't so much I wish I was dead, it's more that I wish I was never born.[/QUOTE]I first want to say to Newton and Banana Boi, I hella appreciate you guys chiming in. I think you are both right, I need to adventure like a FOB. I have the experience and knowledge of Latin America. I guess I'm just a little excited since I've been planning this for YEARS. Ill definitely keep that in mind about the GF situation. That's my goal, so ill keep that in mind Banana.

Thanks guys. Will be posting more in Latina America threads.

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[QUOTE=BigBear;2860042]Hello Gents.

I am coming to Thailand for 45 days and I needed to see if someone was willing to connect and give me information about Bangkok specifically, and Thailand. I have read all the forums, websites, and even some old friends. However I was wondering if someone has been recently or lives there that can advise. Looking for information on.

1. Holiday GF. I looked at other options and think this might be my best bet. Given I want to travel and enjoy someones company.

2. Hotels no more than $100 total price. I like to find best bang for your buck. Something comfortable, spacious, king bed. Cheaper is better!

3. A full breakdown of these spots and more if available (massage, gogo, strip clubs, BJ bars, regular bars, thermae, nana, soi cowboy, sukhumvit, any others?

4. Any places you might recommend to visit?

5. Anything else you can add please do.

My goal: Find a chick or multiple different in different areas to connect with. Travel thailand, explore and have fun with said many women. I want to checkout chiang mai, phuket and krabi island and beach vibes, Bangkok. I don't have any appetite for Pattaya. Seems more like a monger scene with not much else. Would like to relax and enjoy the vibes, see the nature, see the temples, explore the historic places, elephant sanctuary and more!

Anways I would love to connect with someone. I did make some post in Colombia as its my speciality to give back and. I'm younger. Just want to have fun and enjoy life for a few months.[/QUOTE]

Hi guys I would like to share my experience with Sukhumvit Nurus. As I get older I figure "why not", and want to go for more and more extreme situations. For me, that is materializing in having multiple young ladies at the same time, ideally whose ages add up to mine (40's = 2 ladies.

60's = 3 ladies, 80's = 4, and so on).

Strip clubs, smooci, etc.

In the past I have met mixed success doing this at strip clubs. Ideally, making intentions known early in the night and finding girls who are friends works, but it takes time, effort, and some liquid courage, and even then once you get to the room, the service is often a bit playfully awkward, with the ladies alternating rather than both really going at it at the same time.

Therefore, my current modus operandi is sukhimvit Nurus, where if you're lucky, you get two ladies that work in tandem like the ravenois angels in JAV, eagerly sucking and slurping and grinding you like their lives depend on it.

Here are some places I've done this in, but if anyone has a suggestion on how to get a perfect threesome, please let me know.

Soap.

Soap in a word is Japanese. Soap is the previous mitu owner I think. It has more asian feel in terms of presentation of ladies, and a service mindset in the lobby / LINE.

I've had really good and really average service at SOAP. , but when it's good (their "P" - tier girls), you'll find yourself with your feet behind your head and two young gelled ladies gobbling your rod and ass like it's their last meal on earth. The only thing confusing is their pricing system.

Recommended ladies: kaede for PSE.

Kokoro massage.

I think the easiest way to describe kokoro is fun. Fun rooms, fun costumes, fun ladies. Sure the ladies aren't the youngest (they definitely don't fit easily into my math featured above,) but many of them make of up with energy and skill. Sex with these girls can be raucous and fun, and although it can be very PSE, it also feels more like "real, passionate" sex than other mongering methods imo. Similar experience to mitu with slightly better rooms.

Recommended ladies: Jessica for that "farang look", nene or demi for their energy and skill.

Wow massage.

WOW in a word is thai. They have this hilarious and arousing comic book art on their staircase, very Thai rooms, and nice young girls. Wow is almost certainly the same owner as Kokoro since I see many of the same girls at both shops. The ladies are much younger, more beautiful, but also more reserved here, but they'll still work together nicely. Rimming and DFK is less common, but I think it depends on the girl.

I think ideally you pick one crazy / experienced girl and one or two beautiful girls and hope the crazy one can teach her a few things! Last time I went with Mona, Zara, and Jessica.

Wow massages rooms are like kokoros turned up to 10. I'll go with boxing or jungle room. There's really nothing like having four long stockinged legs and hands sliding all over you to make you feel like a king.

Recommended ladies: Zara for her Sensual beauty, Jenny for your college fantasy, Jessica for her skill. (or any other kokoro lady you can request I think?

Daisy dream.

Threesomess are easy and fun in daisy dream. The rooms are very chiq, the ladies willing, but the beauty standard is a bit lower, similar to kokoro, depending on preference.

Still, I've had some great service in their nice rooms and baths, so ymmv. Without the mat play and rimming, It's just not JAV lascivious lady levels of PSE. But still a good threesome.

If you pick the right girls.

Recommended ladies: May for her energy and great tits.

Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2860552]This is the dream of many guys who come to Thailand for the first time but from seeing many friends come to Thailand for the first time it's best not to commit to anything. Since you have 45 days your best bet is to go to Bangkok or Pattaya first and meet a girl you think looks good and you get along with. Give it the first week to meet a girl and take her out of the bar and go around the city for an entire day and overnight. That way you get a feel on how a trip elsewhere will go. Then go on a short 2 or 3 day trip somewhere first. If you like her keep her. If not, find another girl. This way you really haven't committed much time before you move on.

Having said all this my opinion is the usual go with the flow attitude. Don't go searching for this stuff and don't force it. Just enjoy your time in Thailand. Too many girls to commit to one.[/QUOTE]A young man on his first trip should be smashing three different girls a day, every day.

[QUOTE=Gannaton48;2860484]LOng time I haven't been in BKK. I was a fan of the Biergarten in Soi 7, with quite many very nice and still good-looking ladies, mostly kind, with good service and no hustle; It seems to me that it must have disappeared. ANy info if it still exists or moved to another place? Thanks![/QUOTE]It's been gutted, the front has been opened up, it appears to be intended as an extension of the neon monstrosity next door. Search "Beergarden" (spelled that way) for photos.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2860564]If you are young and in shape you should be doing two-three different ones a day. Why go all the way over there for your first or second trip and not hump everyone you can find.[/QUOTE]You know that and I know that but so many if not all new guys fantasize about having a Thai GF for a week or go on a trip with one. Ask anyone who has gone away with a Thai girl. It's waste of time and money.

Out of 100's of guys I know in Thailand Explorer is the only guy who lives here and goes on trips with Thai girls consistently.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2860718]You know that and I know that but so many if not all new guys fantasize about having a Thai GF for a week or go on a trip with one. Ask anyone who has gone away with a Thai girl. It's waste of time and money.

Out of 100's of guys I know in Thailand Explorer is the only guy who lives here and goes on trips with Thai girls consistently.[/QUOTE]When I was in my 40's I had a normal Thai GF. Meh. Its like having any other girlfriend except she's Thai. Double the BS and double the hassle trying to figure it out. Not that I didn't butterfly around mind you when she was working or upcountry, etc.

I'm waaay too old. I want tight, young and slinky. Not speaking English is even better. My life is too good to have a woman ruining it. I am a nice guy, I pay them well to leave me fast.

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And please, do NOT write back any reports on this forum. Any way who reads the reports, when you can just answer questions?[/QUOTE]Haha. Prior post was really funny. Why do some people just don't get the reasons behind retaining years of information in these forums. Sounds a bit childish to be honest.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2860718]You know that and I know that but so many if not all new guys fantasize about having a Thai GF for a week or go on a trip with one. Ask anyone who has gone away with a Thai girl. It's waste of time and money.[/QUOTE]I've done it successfully, but mostly with Thai girls who I got to know quite well via pre-travel Line video chats. Those were successful trips (or semi-successful) ranging from several days to more than a month. One girl was so successful on the first trip that I tried to repeat 4 months later, but that second trip was a miserable failure. Another girl was successful for a month and also successful the following year for 5 days.

I would recommend against traveling with a bar girl.

My trip is booked in two weeks, but I am yet to book a Hotel. I am astonished at the current prices on Expedia and Priceline. Thus far, I have always been lucky to find an affordable deal on any of those three 5 Stars (four if you count Center Point) between Nana & Asok. The Junior Suite in Hyatt Regency is currently going for $410 a night, that is $3 k a week, that is insane. I suppose demand is likely driving all this (On one hand uncle Powell wants to bring down inflation, the hot-hot economy, and contrarily in Bangkok it seems economy is going up and up fueled by the west. It is believed uncle Powell is done raising rates and now higher for longer will cut down on disposable spendings or better yet loose some jobs. But Bangkok tells a different story on the macro. Some one should send him the Bangkok Hotel prices chart for the last one year, it looks pretty steep to me. He might use it to increase another percent point this November. LOL.

Though not mentioned by the poster, the Google location of all three of these establishments can be found on Soi 23. Kokoro has 2022 prices pictured on their site — for the Nuru it's 7500 for two lassies at 90 minutes. Not cheap but based on his description it sure sounds fun!

Thanks for the detailed description and specific recommendations. I am arriving for the winter and will be saving my pennies for these places.

[QUOTE=Redshelf;2860655]Hi guys I would like to share my experience with Sukhumvit Nurus. As I get older I figure "why not", and want to go for more and more extreme situations. For me, that is materializing in having multiple young ladies at the same time, ideally whose ages add up to mine (40's = 2 ladies.

60's = 3 ladies, 80's = 4, and so on).

Strip clubs, smooci, etc.

In the past I have met mixed success doing this at strip clubs. Ideally, making intentions known early in the night and finding girls who are friends works, but it takes time, effort, and some liquid courage, and even then once you get to the room, the service is often a bit playfully awkward, with the ladies alternating rather than both really going at it at the same time.

Therefore, my current modus operandi is sukhimvit Nurus, where if you're lucky, you get two ladies that work in tandem like the ravenois angels in JAV, eagerly sucking and slurping and grinding you like their lives depend on it.

Here are some places I've done this in, but if anyone has a suggestion on how to get a perfect threesome, please let me know.

Soap.

Soap in a word is Japanese. Soap is the previous mitu owner I think. It has more asian feel in terms of presentation of ladies, and a service mindset in the lobby / LINE.

I've had really good and really average service at SOAP. , but when it's good (their "P" - tier girls), you'll find yourself with your feet behind your head and two young gelled ladies gobbling your rod and ass like it's their last meal on earth. The only thing confusing is their pricing system.

Recommended ladies: kaede for PSE.

Kokoro massage.

I think the easiest way to describe kokoro is fun. Fun rooms, fun costumes, fun ladies. Sure the ladies aren't the youngest (they definitely don't fit easily into my math featured above,) but many of them make of up with energy and skill. Sex with these girls can be raucous and fun, and although it can be very PSE, it also feels more like "real, passionate" sex than other mongering methods imo. Similar experience to mitu with slightly better rooms.

Recommended ladies: Jessica for that "farang look", nene or demi for their energy and skill.

Wow massage.

WOW in a word is thai. They have this hilarious and arousing comic book art on their staircase, very Thai rooms, and nice young girls. Wow is almost certainly the same owner as Kokoro since I see many of the same girls at both shops. The ladies are much younger, more beautiful, but also more reserved here, but they'll still work together nicely. Rimming and DFK is less common, but I think it depends on the girl.

I think ideally you pick one crazy / experienced girl and one or two beautiful girls and hope the crazy one can teach her a few things! Last time I went with Mona, Zara, and Jessica.

Wow massages rooms are like kokoros turned up to 10. I'll go with boxing or jungle room. There's really nothing like having four long stockinged legs and hands sliding all over you to make you feel like a king.

Recommended ladies: Zara for her Sensual beauty, Jenny for your college fantasy, Jessica for her skill. (or any other kokoro lady you can request I think?

Daisy dream.

Threesomess are easy and fun in daisy dream. The rooms are very chiq, the ladies willing, but the beauty standard is a bit lower, similar to kokoro, depending on preference.

Still, I've had some great service in their nice rooms and baths, so ymmv. Without the mat play and rimming, It's just not JAV lascivious lady levels of PSE. But still a good threesome.

If you pick the right girls.

Recommended ladies: May for her energy and great tits.

Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Redshelf;2860655]Hi guys I would like to share my experience with Sukhumvit Nurus. As I get older I figure "why not", and want to go for more and more extreme situations. For me, that is materializing in having multiple young ladies at the same time, ideally whose ages add up to mine (40's = 2 ladies.

60's = 3 ladies, 80's = 4, and so on).

Strip clubs, smooci, etc.

In the past I have met mixed success doing this at strip clubs. Ideally, making intentions known early in the night and finding girls who are friends works, but it takes time, effort, and some liquid courage, and even then once you get to the room, the service is often a bit playfully awkward, with the ladies alternating rather than both really going at it at the same time.

Therefore, my current modus operandi is sukhimvit Nurus, where if you're lucky, you get two ladies that work in tandem like the ravenois angels in JAV, eagerly sucking and slurping and grinding you like their lives depend on it.

Here are some places I've done this in, but if anyone has a suggestion on how to get a perfect threesome, please let me know.

Soap.

Soap in a word is Japanese. Soap is the previous mitu owner I think. It has more asian feel in terms of presentation of ladies, and a service mindset in the lobby / LINE.

I've had really good and really average service at SOAP. , but when it's good (their "P" - tier girls), you'll find yourself with your feet behind your head and two young gelled ladies gobbling your rod and ass like it's their last meal on earth. The only thing confusing is their pricing system.

Recommended ladies: kaede for PSE.

Kokoro massage.

I think the easiest way to describe kokoro is fun. Fun rooms, fun costumes, fun ladies. Sure the ladies aren't the youngest (they definitely don't fit easily into my math featured above,) but many of them make of up with energy and skill. Sex with these girls can be raucous and fun, and although it can be very PSE, it also feels more like "real, passionate" sex than other mongering methods imo. Similar experience to mitu with slightly better rooms.

Recommended ladies: Jessica for that "farang look", nene or demi for their energy and skill.

Wow massage.

WOW in a word is thai. They have this hilarious and arousing comic book art on their staircase, very Thai rooms, and nice young girls. Wow is almost certainly the same owner as Kokoro since I see many of the same girls at both shops. The ladies are much younger, more beautiful, but also more reserved here, but they'll still work together nicely. Rimming and DFK is less common, but I think it depends on the girl.

I think ideally you pick one crazy / experienced girl and one or two beautiful girls and hope the crazy one can teach her a few things! Last time I went with Mona, Zara, and Jessica.

Wow massages rooms are like kokoros turned up to 10. I'll go with boxing or jungle room. There's really nothing like having four long stockinged legs and hands sliding all over you to make you feel like a king.

Recommended ladies: Zara for her Sensual beauty, Jenny for your college fantasy, Jessica for her skill. (or any other kokoro lady you can request I think?

Daisy dream.

Threesomess are easy and fun in daisy dream. The rooms are very chiq, the ladies willing, but the beauty standard is a bit lower, similar to kokoro, depending on preference.

Still, I've had some great service in their nice rooms and baths, so ymmv. Without the mat play and rimming, It's just not JAV lascivious lady levels of PSE. But still a good threesome.

If you pick the right girls.

Recommended ladies: May for her energy and great tits.

Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.[/QUOTE]Nice post. I think the soapies are my preferred source of fun in Bangkok personally. I tried doki doki, and then tried aries massage and got addicted to that one. I meant to try daisy dream and kokoro but I just kept going back to Aries since it was consistent for me. SOAP seems interesting, I think I will try that when I am back in Bangkok. At Aries I recommend Nami and Sakura.

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I'm headed to BKK for the weekend, but got a little itch for some Filipino action too. Anybody know any particular places I might strike gold?

Hey guys, flying into Bangkok next Saturday and just wondering what the weather is really like at the moment from anyone on the ground? Goggle says its chucking it down all day but surely not? Is the rain persistent for a few hours now and then and its clears up? Or is it pretty much all day all night long? Trying to plan activities accordingly etc!

[QUOTE=SamSiyani69;2861238]Hey guys, flying into Bangkok next Saturday and just wondering what the weather is really like at the moment from anyone on the ground? Goggle says its chucking it down all day but surely not? Is the rain persistent for a few hours now and then and its clears up? Or is it pretty much all day all night long? Trying to plan activities accordingly etc![/QUOTE][URL]https://www.accuweather.com/en/th/bangkok/318849/weather-forecast/318849[/URL]

[QUOTE=SamSiyani69;2861238]Hey guys, flying into Bangkok next Saturday and just wondering what the weather is really like at the moment from anyone on the ground? Goggle says its chucking it down all day but surely not? Is the rain persistent for a few hours now and then and its clears up? Or is it pretty much all day all night long? Trying to plan activities accordingly etc![/QUOTE]Here you go.

[URL]https://weather.tmd.go.th/bma_nck.php[/URL]

[QUOTE=DaVinci2;2861221]I'm headed to BKK for the weekend, but got a little itch for some Filipino action too. Anybody know any particular places I might strike gold?[/QUOTE]You are in luck.

70% of Thai Bargirls look Filipino. Aka as Black Thais. I'm not making this up.

[QUOTE=SamSiyani69;2861238]Hey guys, flying into Bangkok next Saturday and just wondering what the weather is really like at the moment from anyone on the ground? Goggle says its chucking it down all day but surely not? Is the rain persistent for a few hours now and then and its clears up? Or is it pretty much all day all night long? Trying to plan activities accordingly etc![/QUOTE]I was there last month and used iphone's weather app It always said warning for heavy rain entire day but maybe 1 or 2 hours it would rain while I was out, usually at night. Sometimes it said it was rainning ATM but it wasnt, maybe in other parts of BKK it was? So pretty inaccurate LOL.

[QUOTE=MachchiBaba;2860747]My trip is booked in two weeks, but I am yet to book a Hotel. I am astonished at the current prices on Expedia and Priceline. Thus far, I have always been lucky to find an affordable deal on any of those three 5 Stars (four if you count Center Point) between Nana & Asok. The Junior Suite in Hyatt Regency is currently going for $410 a night, that is $3 k a week, that is insane. I suppose demand is likely driving all this (On one hand uncle Powell wants to bring down inflation, the hot-hot economy, and contrarily in Bangkok it seems economy is going up and up fueled by the west. It is believed uncle Powell is done raising rates and now higher for longer will cut down on disposable spendings or better yet loose some jobs. But Bangkok tells a different story on the macro. Some one should send him the Bangkok Hotel prices chart for the last one year, it looks pretty steep to me. He might use it to increase another percent point this November. LOL.[/QUOTE]Have seen some good deals on Agoda, but yes, generally the prices have been going up and up.

[QUOTE=TConor;2861252][URL]https://www.accuweather.com/en/th/bangkok/318849/weather-forecast/318849[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2861258]Here you go.

[URL]https://weather.tmd.go.th/bma_nck.php[/URL][/QUOTE]I like looking at a weather map before I go out. Accuweather works well for me in USA, but it has been inaccurate for me in Thailand. I'll try the Goatscrot link next time I'm in Thailand.

Best place for new years eve? Phuket, pattaya or Bangkok?

[QUOTE=IntBond0;2861369]Best place for new years eve? Phuket, pattaya or Bangkok?[/QUOTE]Every night is NY Eve in Bangkok, except cheaper.

I love the fireworks.

[QUOTE=SamSiyani69;2861238]Hey guys, flying into Bangkok next Saturday and just wondering what the weather is really like at the moment from anyone on the ground? Goggle says its chucking it down all day but surely not? Is the rain persistent for a few hours now and then and its clears up? Or is it pretty much all day all night long? Trying to plan activities accordingly etc![/QUOTE]I'm on my way back. Its going to be raining for the next two weeks. I use gore tex or an umbrella, or just say in my condo and call for take out if I need it.

[QUOTE=IntBond0;2861369]Best place for new years eve? Phuket, pattaya or Bangkok?[/QUOTE]What do you mean by best? Best to me if where I am with the best looking girl. I don't waste money on overpriced fancy dinners on NYE.

I only know Pattaya NYE and if it's fireworks you want it's pretty unique. If you are on Beach Road near Central Festival you get to see 360 degree fireworks. In front of you along Beach road, to the left at Bali Hai Pier, to the right from somewhere around Dusit Thani, and behind you from 3rd Road (I have to say I was pretty impressed the first time saw them in 2015. Didn't seem as long a display when I watched them in 2022.

Advice. If you really want fireworks go when the Fireworks competition is on in the Summer. Around 4 nights of amazing extended fireworks displays.

[QUOTE=BigBear;2860274]Yes I am looking for someone to help me out. If someone would be a fucking homie and connect with me, I'd appreciate it! Like I said, I am looking for help around understanding it.[/QUOTE]I spend *way* too much time reading the traffic in online forums devoted to a variety of special interests. I'm old enough to remember Usenet newsgroups in the Nineties, and before that dial-up bulletin boards. It seems to me there are some universal rules that apply no matter what the forum or the topic under discussion.

The rule that applies here says that people who are new to the forum should respect the efforts of those who have taken the time to post useful information. At a minimum, that means doing your homework by reading a representative sample of old posts, which will usually provide a solid baseline of knowledge. If you make an effort and *still* have questions, netiquette dictates that you frame them specifically and ask them individually.

The classic example of what *not* to do: (A) Falsely claim to have "read the forum." (B) Ask for a tour d'horizon. "I've read all prior posts here regarding using a handgun for self defense, but I have some questions. What kind of gun should I buy? What's the best calibre? How does one carry concealed? Do the laws permit me to use the gun to protect myself? Can anybody recommend a dealer?"

You get the idea.

I'm not picking on Mr. Bear. He's just latest chap to wander into the forum and make a common mistake.

That said, I'll dispense a little advice here in the Bangkok forum. He should stay in a hotel near the BTS Skytrain Green Line, between stations E1 to E5. He should spend at least two nights checking out the go go bar scene on Soi Cowboy and at Nana Entertainment Plaza. He should take a look at the freelance girls who hang out in front of the Nana Hotel. He should check out the massage places on Soi 24. He should at least make a lap through Thermae some evening about 2100. I don't like to find girls online. But if he's so inclined, he should read the reports about ThaiFriendly and the escort services.

Old Bangkok Hands will know this barely scratches the surface. But it's a solid start for a guy on his first visit.

Bunky

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2861278]I like looking at a weather map before I go out. Accuweather works well for me in USA, but it has been inaccurate for me in Thailand. I'll try the Goatscrot link next time I'm in Thailand.[/QUOTE]Once you land download a weather app on your smart phone.

As slow as the Bangkok thread is I appreciate guys asking the same questions over and over and over Again.

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2860279]
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I've always wondered if there was a Rush to barfine the 3's and 4's at the end of the night.

Were the Nana Rainbow girls who get No action during prime time Scooped up at Closing.
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[/QUOTE]Having known a bunch of bargirls personally, while there are a few girls who get barfined a lot, there are lots (even lots of reasonably attractive girls) who get barfined on the order of once a week, or even once a month. They're not unattractive girls, some are very attractive, just girls that aren't as pushy.

[QUOTE=YetAnotherGuy;2861603]Having known a bunch of bargirls personally, while there are a few girls who get barfined a lot, there are lots (even lots of reasonably attractive girls) who get barfined on the order of once a week, or even once a month. They're not unattractive girls, some are very attractive, just girls that aren't as pushy.[/QUOTE]Agreed some of the Attractive ones are left alone. Facts.

Some are just down right Mean Looking. Snagglepusses. Guy can read the Bad Vibes.

While some who seem Kinda Ugly get Barfined all the time. Go figure!

Where does Nana Schoolgirl fit in all this. If some of you think she is Pretty she must have Customers. Hahaha. Hahaha.

I am planning a 3 day trip but confused between Bangkok / Pattaya vs Signapore. My RTFF summariaes the following.

Bangkok / Pattaya.

Scene is quite relaxed and open. Picking up girls in bar after a chat sounds reseanoble. However bar fine is significant these days. In that price you can have a ST with a girl in Singapore.

Price haggling puts me off. I love fixed pricing and can't negotiate.

I love soapy bars which are not there in Singapore.

Singapore.

Many agencies have telegram groups so I can plan and utilise my time to the max, rather than bar hopping, chatting and then going back to hotel.

Easy to hook up with a beautiful girl at an affordable price. LT in Sing is 300 SGD which is comparable to similar girls charging in Bangkok.

Many nationalities are available easily. PRC, Thai, Viet plus westerners.

Any advice why you would choose one over the other?

[QUOTE=YetAnotherGuy;2861603]Having known a bunch of bargirls personally, while there are a few girls who get barfined a lot, there are lots (even lots of reasonably attractive girls) who get barfined on the order of once a week, or even once a month. They're not unattractive girls, some are very attractive, just girls that aren't as pushy.[/QUOTE]Yeah, there are usually only a few top tier girls in the more popular Go Go's that manage to get barfined every night, sometimes multiple times per night, while the majority of Go Go girls just sit around and are lucky to get barfined once a week. A girl's looks and personality and price combined with overall demand are the main factors that determine a girl's success rate. I am always amazed, however, when I see a somewhat attractive Go Go girl, who has not been barfined for a few nights or longer, stubbornly remain fixed at some ridiculously unrealistic price point. Some girls are just really bad at marketing. 555.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2861650]Yeah, there are usually only a few top tier girls in the more popular Go Go's that manage to get barfined every night, sometimes multiple times per night, while the majority of Go Go girls just sit around and are lucky to get barfined once a week. A girl's looks and personality and price combined with overall demand are the main factors that determine a girl's success rate. I am always amazed, however, when I see a somewhat attractive Go Go girl, who has not been barfined for a few nights or longer, stubbornly remain fixed at some ridiculously unrealistic price point. Some girls are just really bad at marketing. 555.[/QUOTE]Part of the deal is that the girls can actually do OK just on drinks. They get THB 100 / drink. I know a girl who virtually always gets over 25 drinks in a night, and has gotten as many as 80. Now, she's really good at selling drinks (and isn't pushy), but still, being barfined isn't actually necessary to make a decent income.

[QUOTE=YetAnotherGuy;2861684]Part of the deal is that the girls can actually do OK just on drinks. They get THB 100 / drink. I know a girl who virtually always gets over 25 drinks in a night, and has gotten as many as 80. Now, she's really good at selling drinks (and isn't pushy), but still, being barfined isn't actually necessary to make a decent income.[/QUOTE]What you have illustrated is one of the main reasons why the Thai Go Go scene is dying. Prices are ridiculous considering the quality and the girls are so spoiled, many can choose not to barfine. I ask you; is this any way to run a fucking bordello? 555 (KKK).

As to this 25 drink / night Go Go girl you mentioned; I avoid girls like her like the plague. But what you are really saying is that post-covid, a punter needs to ask any potential Go Go girl if she barfines before asking if she would like to have a drink which is fucked up IMHO.

[QUOTE=YetAnotherGuy;2861684]Part of the deal is that the girls can actually do OK just on drinks. They get THB 100 / drink. I know a girl who virtually always gets over 25 drinks in a night, and has gotten as many as 80. Now, she's really good at selling drinks (and isn't pushy), but still, being barfined isn't actually necessary to make a decent income.[/QUOTE]True, but the damage they are doing will catch up with them later in life. Couple young girls I know just do drinks for the most part. They text several times a week drunk, very drunk. I tell them to stop this as over time this will kill you. Why don't you just barfine a couple nights a week, youll make much more and better for your health. Hmm. Well we don't often see guys we like. Uh girls you aint in the like business you are bargirls there to make money, the like who we fuck is for normal girls with regular jobs. It is what it is. A couple dicks a week won't kill you, cirrhosis of the liver will.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2861514]What do you mean by best? Best to me if where I am with the best looking girl. I don't waste money on overpriced fancy dinners on NYE.

I only know Pattaya NYE and if it's fireworks you want it's pretty unique. If you are on Beach Road near Central Festival you get to see 360 degree fireworks. In front of you along Beach road, to the left at Bali Hai Pier, to the right from somewhere around Dusit Thani, and behind you from 3rd Road (I have to say I was pretty impressed the first time saw them in 2015. Didn't seem as long a display when I watched them in 2022.

Advice. If you really want fireworks go when the Fireworks competition is on in the Summer. Around 4 nights of amazing extended fireworks displays.[/QUOTE]To meet the most beautiful girls and have the most fun out of the three.

[QUOTE=Locamotive;2861708]True, but the damage they are doing will catch up with them later in life. Couple young girls I know just do drinks for the most part. They text several times a week drunk, very drunk. I tell them to stop this as over time this will kill you. Why don't you just barfine a couple nights a week, youll make much more and better for your health. Hmm. Well we don't often see guys we like. Uh girls you aint in the like business you are bargirls there to make money, the like who we fuck is for normal girls with regular jobs. It is what it is. A couple dicks a week won't kill you, cirrhosis of the liver will.[/QUOTE]Contrary to what most of us thought was the case or hoped would be the case before we really got into the Thai P4 P scene, Thai prostitutes are not poor beggars so desperate for money they must do whatever a merciful paying customer wants and go with anyone willing to give them money.

They are not poor at all. Not the ones we are likely to meet in the tourist red light districts. Certainly not poor by Thai standards. Not even poor compared to poor people I have seen in poor areas of the USA. I doubt I have ever met one truly poor Thai prostitute in the 12 years I have lived in Thailand. And I have meet hundreds of them.

Inconvenienced by not having this or last month's rent? Or, rather, had it but spent it all on late night sumtam parties and drinks with their girlfriends? Yes. Poor? No.

Worried that they are late paying back extravagant gambling debts? Yes. Poor? No.

This would be especially true of Thai gogo bar girls. They are far more likely to be in it for the fun of hanging out with other Thai girls, to impress them with how good they are at the "sport" of hustling LDs from dumb men, to avoid the boredom of just sitting at home with grandma and the baby, to experience a new and interesting dick every now and then and for the booze than "for the money" exactly.

Many are Party Girls pretending to be "poor" with a purse full of 1000 baht notes at all times.

Not really poor.

Therefore, they can easily say No to anyone at any time for any reason without batting an eye and most definitely without missing a meal, the next free drink and a hearty laugh amongst their bargirl co-workers over getting a customer to pay them for it.

As an Asian female, they have never felt so much attention, power and control over men. That is quite addictive for them. They are far more likely to be in the bar or in the P4 P scene for that than for any pretend need for money.

[QUOTE=Locamotive;2861708]True, but the damage they are doing will catch up with them later in life. Couple young girls I know just do drinks for the most part. They text several times a week drunk, very drunk. I tell them to stop this as over time this will kill you. Why don't you just barfine a couple nights a week, youll make much more and better for your health. Hmm. Well we don't often see guys we like. Uh girls you aint in the like business you are bargirls there to make money, the like who we fuck is for normal girls with regular jobs. It is what it is. A couple dicks a week won't kill you, cirrhosis of the liver will.[/QUOTE]After spending numerous hours just observing.

I agree that the majority of guys approaching Bargirls for Sex is not the quintessential Beauty of a Man.

[QUOTE=Locamotive;2861708]True, but the damage they are doing will catch up with them later in life. Couple young girls I know just do drinks for the most part. They text several times a week drunk, very drunk. I tell them to stop this as over time this will kill you. Why don't you just barfine a couple nights a week, youll make much more and better for your health. Hmm. Well we don't often see guys we like. Uh girls you aint in the like business you are bargirls there to make money, the like who we fuck is for normal girls with regular jobs. It is what it is. A couple dicks a week won't kill you, cirrhosis of the liver will.[/QUOTE]Back in the late 90's early 00's salaries for bar girls or 6 7 and 8,000, depending on whether they danced closed, topless, or fully nude. That and the small amount of money they got for drinks was not enough to sustain them. They made their money by going with customers. As soon as the Arab took over bars in soy cowboy, the coyote model came about where girls were signing 10-day contracts for 10,000. So all of a sudden they could make 30 k by just showing up and dancing, and along with their drink supplement make plenty of money to get by. This was not good for punters. And along with knowing they had enough income to survive they could then be pickier and charge more for their services.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2861448]I'm on my way back. Its going to be raining for the next two weeks. I use gore tex or an umbrella, or just say in my condo and call for take out if I need it.[/QUOTE]May sound stupid but if you are going out to soak up the atmosphere (no pun intended) late at night to eye up the street freelancers etc, I strongly recommend go for an umbrella rather than rain jacket / hood. I talk from experience. I found during the heavy rains girls were a bit wary of me approaching them if I had a hood on. Changed the next night to an umbrella and then miraculously the girls would be coming up to you instead (which all part of the fun).

Even if you are only there for a day or two, most hotels will lend you an Umbrella also. The other reason (obviously depending) on time of year that I ditched the coat was it can get bloody hot and humid even very late at night. Blooming sweat was pouring off me haha!

Also in the heavy rain the number of FL's on the street will be way down, just head over to Thermae bar for a laugh. Hundred or more to choose from at any time!

[QUOTE=PgReal;2861824]May sound stupid but if you are going out to soak up the atmosphere (no pun intended) late at night to eye up the street freelancers etc, I strongly recommend go for an umbrella rather than rain jacket / hood. I talk from experience. I found during the heavy rains girls were a bit wary of me approaching them if I had a hood on. Changed the next night to an umbrella and then miraculously the girls would be coming up to you instead (which all part of the fun).

Even if you are only there for a day or two, most hotels will lend you an Umbrella also. The other reason (obviously depending) on time of year that I ditched the coat was it can get bloody hot and humid even very late at night. Blooming sweat was pouring off me haha!

Also in the heavy rain the number of FL's on the street will be way down, just head over to Thermae bar for a laugh. Hundred or more to choose from at any time![/QUOTE]Appreciate the advice but I have several umbrellas already plus I wear high priced rain gear so don't sweat or get wet. But thanks for trying to help me out as I approach probably my 20th rainy season in SE Asia.

If a girl is leery of my hood, I just plaster a thousand baht note to my face.

About 12 years ago, a peddlar lady outside Thermae offered me an umbrella for 100 b. I declined with a smiling paeng mak, went inside, came out later, and it was pouring. Lady saw me, smiled pulled out a piece of cardboard with 300 B written on it and stuck it on her stock.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2861759]Contrary to what most of us thought was the case or hoped would be the case before we really got into the Thai P4 P scene, Thai prostitutes are not poor beggars so desperate for money they must do whatever a merciful paying customer wants and go with anyone willing to give them money.

They are not poor at all. Not the ones we are likely to meet in the tourist red light districts. Certainly not poor by Thai standards. Not even poor compared to poor people I have seen in poor areas of the USA. I doubt I have ever met one truly poor Thai prostitute in the 12 years I have lived in Thailand. And I have meet hundreds of them.

Inconvenienced by not having this or last month's rent? Or, rather, had it but spent it all on late night sumtam parties and drinks with their girlfriends? Yes. Poor? No.

Worried that they are late paying back extravagant gambling debts? Yes. Poor? No.

This would be especially true of Thai gogo bar girls. They are far more likely to be in it for the fun of hanging out with other Thai girls, to impress them with how good they are at the "sport" of hustling LDs from dumb men, to avoid the boredom of just sitting at home with grandma and the baby, to experience a new and interesting dick every now and then and for the booze than "for the money" exactly..[/QUOTE]This needs to be stickied and referred to every time we see the does she love me posts.

And, not to be ever accused of being an ugly American, but my young newbie brethren from India need to read that post and understand why they get treated badly and will be treated badly by Thai hookers. Quite frankly, many earn more than you do and they know it. That's their further position of power, one that they do not have with wealthier older westerners, especially expats.

That's the reverse power that Western expats have. We live there, we have all the time in the world to weed them out. Its a game to them, and should be to you.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2862110]
And, not to be ever accused of being an ugly American, but my young newbie brethren from India need to read that post and understand why they get treated badly and will be treated badly by Thai hookers. Quite frankly, many earn more than you do and they know it. That's their further position of power, one that they do not have with wealthier older westerners, especially expats.
[/QUOTE]Interesting. Very truly and objectively said Nyezhov! That being said, I am an Indian myself (by color) and an American by nationality. I am probably on the top 5% earners or tax payers in the land of free. I think, I would appear as a rich Indian corporate dude just by the looks, but only after a conversation someone might know my western background. Why am I saying this here? - I totally endorse to what Nyezhov says here. If I were to go to a nightclub as an example in Bangkok, I will be profiled very quick by the Bar tenders as someone who will probably not want to spend money on drinks, and by the girls as someone who would be exactly what Nyezhov describes. As a result, I have hard time attracting a girl in a bar or a nightclub for a take-out. I am not sure how to play up on the profiling piece in Bangkok, it is going to be there for me to deal with, I have learned to play around it though, but it is a lot of extra effort for sure.

Contrary to all this, I find Germany (not FKKs, they are not my thing) to be much more equitable relatively. In fact, I have personally experienced favorable treatment there over the whites, somehow they tend to think Indians are richer, innovators and big spenders (go figure). I am talking about the Bars as an example inside of the hotel Roomers in Frankfurt or Berlin or even the Bar in ground floor of Hilton City Center (again, not FKKs). FKKs are assembly line manufacturing IMO. LOL.

[QUOTE=MachchiBaba;2862142]Interesting. Very truly and objectively said Nyezhov! That being said, I am an Indian myself (by color) and an American by nationality. I am probably on the top 5% earners or tax payers in the land of free. I think, I would appear as a rich Indian corporate dude just by the looks, but only after a conversation someone might know my western background. Why am I saying this here? - I totally endorse to what Nyezhov says here. If I were to go to a nightclub as an example in Bangkok, I will be profiled very quick by the Bar tenders as someone who will probably not want to spend money on drinks, and by the girls as someone who would be exactly what Nyezhov describes. As a result, I have hard time attracting a girl in a bar or a nightclub for a take-out. I am not sure how to play up on the profiling piece in Bangkok, it is going to be there for me to deal with, I have learned to play around it though, but it is a lot of extra effort for sure.

Contrary to all this, I find Germany (not FKKs, they are not my thing) to be much more equitable relatively. In fact, I have personally experienced favorable treatment there over the whites, somehow they tend to think Indians are richer, innovators and big spenders (go figure). I am talking about the Bars as an example inside of the hotel Roomers in Frankfurt or Berlin or even the Bar in ground floor of Hilton City Center (again, not FKKs). FKKs are assembly line manufacturing IMO. LOL.[/QUOTE]Recently I was treated like an Indian in Pattaya.

One drink and I was Booted before my usual 30 minutes.

It did not feel Pleasent. Hahaha.

[QUOTE=MachchiBaba;2862142]Interesting. Very truly and objectively said Nyezhov! That being said, I am an Indian myself (by color) and an American by nationality. I am probably on the top 5% earners or tax payers in the land of free. I think, I would appear as a rich Indian corporate dude just by the looks, but only after a conversation someone might know my western background. Why am I saying this here? - I totally endorse to what Nyezhov says here. If I were to go to a nightclub as an example in Bangkok, I will be profiled very quick by the Bar tenders as someone who will probably not want to spend money on drinks, and by the girls as someone who would be exactly what Nyezhov describes. As a result, I have hard time attracting a girl in a bar or a nightclub for a take-out. I am not sure how to play up on the profiling piece in Bangkok, it is going to be there for me to deal with, I have learned to play around it though, but it is a lot of extra effort for sure.

Contrary to all this, I find Germany (not FKKs, they are not my thing) to be much more equitable relatively. In fact, I have personally experienced favorable treatment there over the whites, somehow they tend to think Indians are richer, innovators and big spenders (go figure). I am talking about the Bars as an example inside of the hotel Roomers in Frankfurt or Berlin or even the Bar in ground floor of Hilton City Center (again, not FKKs). FKKs are assembly line manufacturing IMO. LOL.[/QUOTE]Exactly. The girls have no idea of how it is in the usa. To them, if you look Indian, you are a poor bum on a boys cheap charter looking to share a coke. Meanwhile, they don't realize that you have just founded your fourth tech company here in the USA since here in the states if you are of Indian ancestry, that's what you do: you are a sucessful big earner.

All I can suggest for you is that in nightclubs make sure they somehow know you are an American. Don't quite have the strategy for that, I guess it would have to be an ad hoc thing. Thai folks don't differentiate in accents or mannerisms, you would be surprised how many times a day I'm asked where do you come from when I am so blatantly American to any Westerner that it's laughable. Then again, I can pick an American out of the crowd, no matter what his race or at the background is. I walked up toh a couple of Asian guys over in Nana one night and ask them what part of California they were from. They freaked out and said how do you know that we are American. I told him that now, your accents have confirmed it, but if I see tattooed up Asian dudes who are 6 ft tall and 220 lb, and wearing NFL jerseys, backwards ball caps and have mustaches, I can tell you that they're Hmong people so I was curious as to where in California. They said Stockton and we smoked a fat joint.

[QUOTE=MachchiBaba;2862142]Interesting. Very truly and objectively said Nyezhov! That being said, I am an Indian myself (by color) and an American by nationality. I am probably on the top 5% earners or tax payers in the land of free. I think, I would appear as a rich Indian corporate dude just by the looks, but only after a conversation someone might know my western background. Why am I saying this here? - I totally endorse to what Nyezhov says here. If I were to go to a nightclub as an example in Bangkok, I will be profiled very quick by the Bar tenders as someone who will probably not want to spend money on drinks, and by the girls as someone who would be exactly what Nyezhov describes. As a result, I have hard time attracting a girl in a bar or a nightclub for a take-out. I am not sure how to play up on the profiling piece in Bangkok, it is going to be there for me to deal with, I have learned to play around it though, but it is a lot of extra effort for sure.

Contrary to all this, I find Germany (not FKKs, they are not my thing) to be much more equitable relatively. In fact, I have personally experienced favorable treatment there over the whites, somehow they tend to think Indians are richer, innovators and big spenders (go figure). I am talking about the Bars as an example inside of the hotel Roomers in Frankfurt or Berlin or even the Bar in ground floor of Hilton City Center (again, not FKKs). FKKs are assembly line manufacturing IMO. LOL.[/QUOTE]Racial profiling is going to be there all over the world according to how you look. There are bad apples who behave badly irrespective of how look and how people assume where the person is from. I believe problem in Thailand is lots of Indians go there because of proximity and cheap fares and cheap living and cheap pussy. India is conservative and with LE problems not easy to have fun.

I believe to have a good time ignore the racial profiling and do your own thing. Thailand caters to everyone irrespective of which country they come from. If you are ignored in one place there are others who welcome you.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2850755]The best way to avoid this problem is to keep your smart phone backed up. I don't know why Somewhere15 had a problem.

I've changed phones more times since getting Line than I care to remember and I've never lost anything during phone changes. I have iPhone, but I'm confident that Android has something equivalent. I do automated nightly backups via WiFi to iCloud and then about weekly I do a wired encrypted manual backup to my laptop using iTunes. Before I go to the phone store, the last thing I do is a manual backup to my laptop. When I get my new phone, I take it straight home and do a restore from my laptop. I can't remember every losing anything from any of my phone apps.[/QUOTE]So, I got it back. But a bit too late.

Line replied to my email request that I was permenantly banned due to the soliciting. Yes, they have access to our conversations and some of them were kinky.

But, I wanted to try again, I got a pop up that read I need to wait for another 14 days before trying again. I tried after 14 days and it worked.

By then, I was not in BKK anymore and the good ones left or changed their IDs. But, I suspect some of them may return.

I have backed it up anyways.

[QUOTE=MachchiBaba;2862142]Interesting. Very truly and objectively said Nyezhov! That being said, I am an Indian myself (by color) and an American by nationality. I am probably on the top 5% earners or tax payers in the land of free. I think, I would appear as a rich Indian corporate dude just by the looks, but only after a conversation someone might know my western background. Why am I saying this here? - I totally endorse to what Nyezhov says here. If I were to go to a nightclub as an example in Bangkok, I will be profiled very quick by the Bar tenders as someone who will probably not want to spend money on drinks, and by the girls as someone who would be exactly what Nyezhov describes. As a result, I have hard time attracting a girl in a bar or a nightclub for a take-out. I am not sure how to play up on the profiling piece in Bangkok, it is going to be there for me to deal with, I have learned to play around it though, but it is a lot of extra effort for sure.

Contrary to all this, I find Germany (not FKKs, they are not my thing) to be much more equitable relatively. In fact, I have personally experienced favorable treatment there over the whites, somehow they tend to think Indians are richer, innovators and big spenders (go figure). I am talking about the Bars as an example inside of the hotel Roomers in Frankfurt or Berlin or even the Bar in ground floor of Hilton City Center (again, not FKKs). FKKs are assembly line manufacturing IMO. LOL.[/QUOTE]In order to be treated as such you need to dress a bit better, make sure you smell good and talk more politely than the average tourist from India. Also don't hang out in a big group of other Indians. Actually the Thai girls are not racist per se as much as they want to maximize their chance of earning the most with as little work as possible. Indians are trained to bargain for everything while white people generally just pay up and Asians overpay. Thats the basic difference. I have seen Koreans offer 3 K or 4 K to street girls on Sukhumvit. Wouldn't you expect girls to flock to them? Even if only 25% of them do that, it sets up the reputation.

Three of us arrive at BKK at 00:20, just after midnight in mid-November. We are staying off of Soi 11, just north of Sukhumvit Road, and estimate our arrival between 01:30 and 02:15. That places us at Nana near closing time. How late do the freelancers typically work near Nana after closing? One of the travelers doesn't want to wait until the next day to partake. Thank you.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2862580]In order to be treated as such you need to dress a bit better, make sure you smell good and talk more politely than the average tourist from India. Also don't hang out in a big group of other Indians. Actually the Thai girls are not racist per se as much as they want to maximize their chance of earning the most with as little work as possible. Indians are trained to bargain for everything while white people generally just pay up and Asians overpay. Thats the basic difference. I have seen Koreans offer 3 K or 4 K to street girls on Sukhumvit. Wouldn't you expect girls to flock to them? Even if only 25% of them do that, it sets up the reputation.[/QUOTE]We've all seen Nana Streetwalkers, schoolgirl included. In all my year I've not seen Korean s after them.

Assuming I'm wrong I doubt they paying 4,000.

About our Friends smelling good. Don't Smell too good, gnome saying. Hahaha.

My advice would be to show them who is Boss by overpaying.

[QUOTE=WanderingMan;2862587]Three of us arrive at BKK at 00:20, just after midnight in mid-November. We are staying off of Soi 11, just north of Sukhumvit Road, and estimate our arrival between 01:30 and 02:15. That places us at Nana near closing time. How late do the freelancers typically work near Nana after closing? One of the travelers doesn't want to wait until the next day to partake. Thank you.[/QUOTE]You can find hoochie on Soi Nana all night. Beware Ladyboys. There are some fairly aggressive ones down there. If you had up towards Thermae which is close to where you're staying, you'll find I think higher quality street walkers.

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2862595]We've all seen Nana Streetwalkers, schoolgirl included. In all my year I've not seen Korean s after them.

Assuming I'm wrong I doubt they paying 4,000.

About our Friends smelling good. Don't Smell too good, gnome saying. Hahaha.

My advice would be to show them who is Boss by overpaying.[/QUOTE]For some reason, Asian guys concentrate on the street walkers on odd soi Suk between 7 and T21.

Don't laugh about the smelling good. I wear Clive Christian or Tom Ford and get a lot of noses are stuck in my neck. I don't wear oud or Arabian colognes.

Thai girls are susceptible to a schtick like any other girls in the world. I grew my beard over the past month or so, because it's time for Santa Claus. Yep, Santa Claus smelling like $800 cologne and weed. I'm going to be rolling in the babes. The words no farang do not exist where I am concerned.

So went down to thermae, saw a few good ones.

Some of them made eye contact, some avoided which means they are not interested in me. It's not a big deal.

Then, I saw this girl who I thought must be in her early 20's as in the dull lighting, she had the perfect skin complimented by a small frame. Later she told me she was 33.

After banging a few thick chicks the previous days I booked via smooci, it was time for a change.

So, we talk and she agrees to everything and short time 3 k, which means 1 hour.

It looks like they have an unofficial agreement between all girls working there to fix this because only last year there were girls coming out for ST for just 1500.

But, I still decided to go instead of fighting this system.

She held my arms like she became my GF, this gave me a false impression that I will have a good time.

She kept saying I look very hantum, hantum, massaging my ego even more and it made me even more excited and already pictured us having a steamy BF / GF session and I even considered paying her.

A bit extra for an extended session.

Reached room, both take off clothes and we hit the shower.

She had the body I expected as she had a tiny frame and that's what I wanted that night. She then started complaining how big it is downstairs and started looking kinda scared and I know that.

This is an act they put up to convince us to finish the session quickly.

She cleaned me off and as I got closer her breath was quite awful. She even had the cheek to present me my own tooth paste and brush to get ready while she just gargled. This started going downhill slowly from here.

It's one of those times I was glad to avoid DFK and get COB.

COB lasted a few seconds, then as we started it, within 5 minutes she was pressuring me to finish, I changed positions, she started bitching when I started pumping faster to finish, or she kept bitching that I didn't finish yet.

I stopped everything immediately and as I already paid her, I told her she is free to leave. Then she started being sad asking me if I am angry, I told her it doesn't matter, she can leave. This is not what I wanted. Perhaps she is used to people lasting only a few seconds, but I am thankfully blessed with the ability to last longer combined that with the exersices I take to help me.

She was not even tight for her frame.

I opened by fridge and asked if she wanted to drink something, she took a bottle of water, then got ready but still relectuant to leave for some reason I don't understand yet.

I showed her the door and asked her to enjoy the rest of the evening and even tipped her 100 bhat to get a tuk tuk which she took relectuantly.

Not going to complain that there are no good looking girls in thermae. Just that I was unlucky this time.

[QUOTE=Zam007;2862832]So went down to thermae, saw a few good ones.

Some of them made eye contact, some avoided which means they are not interested in me. It's not a big deal.

Then, I saw this girl who I thought must be in her early 20's as in the dull lighting, she had the perfect skin complimented by a small frame. Later she told me she was 33.

After banging a few thick chicks the previous days I booked via smooci, it was time for a change.

So, we talk and she agrees to everything and short time 3 k, which means 1 hour.

It looks like they have an unofficial agreement between all girls working there to fix this because only last year there were girls coming out for ST for just 1500.

But, I still decided to go instead of fighting this system.

She held my arms like she became my GF, this gave me a false impression that I will have a good time.

She kept saying I look very hantum, hantum, massaging my ego even more and it made me even more excited and already pictured us having a steamy BF / GF session and I even considered paying her.

A bit extra for an extended session.

Reached room, both take off clothes and we hit the shower.

She had the body I expected as she had a tiny frame and that's what I wanted that night. She then started complaining how big it is downstairs and started looking kinda scared and I know that.

This is an act they put up to convince us to finish the session quickly.

She cleaned me off and as I got closer her breath was quite awful. She even had the cheek to present me my own tooth paste and brush to get ready while she just gargled. This started going downhill slowly from here.

It's one of those times I was glad to avoid DFK and get COB.

COB lasted a few seconds, then as we started it, within 5 minutes she was pressuring me to finish, I changed positions, she started bitching when I started pumping faster to finish, or she kept bitching that I didn't finish yet.

I stopped everything immediately and as I already paid her, I told her she is free to leave. Then she started being sad asking me if I am angry, I told her it doesn't matter, she can leave. This is not what I wanted. Perhaps she is used to people lasting only a few seconds, but I am thankfully blessed with the ability to last longer combined that with the exersices I take to help me.

She was not even tight for her frame.

I opened by fridge and asked if she wanted to drink something, she took a bottle of water, then got ready but still relectuant to leave for some reason I don't understand yet.

I showed her the door and asked her to enjoy the rest of the evening and even tipped her 100 bhat to get a tuk tuk which she took relectuantly.

Not going to complain that there are no good looking girls in thermae. Just that I was unlucky this time.[/QUOTE]Wow, how many mistakes did you make here? Lets see. 1. Accepted a ridiculous price. 2. Paid in advance 3. Didn't tell her to shut up and keep fucking her. 4. After crap service offered her a drink and gave her even more money. I can just imagine the laughs the girls have later about customers like you.

People, please, even if you pay over market (its your money), at least make sure you get something for it. Never ever pay in advance. Only girls that know they suck (not in the good way) demand payment in advance. Once you pay, all leverage is gone. IF she is reluctant, tell her she is free to go but doesn't get paid. Worst case give her 500 B to get her to leave (but I refuse to even do that).

Hi all,

I am going to be in Bangkok and Pattaya for a few days during new year. Want to make the most of this trip. Need suggestions and guidance about the best, classiest and memorable mongering experience money can buy. Chubby is my preferred body type, like massages and handjobs more than sex or blowjobs (the worry of catching std really keeps me from enjoying the act). What should I do and expect and how much is a decent amount to spend on a couple of experiences.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2862667]You can find hoochie on Soi Nana all night. Beware Ladyboys. There are some fairly aggressive ones down there. If you had up towards Thermae which is close to where you're staying, you'll find I think higher quality street walkers.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the input regarding going toward Thermae. I stay sober, so hopefully that will help in detecting ladyboys. The airlines updated the flight to arrive an hour earlier with a new flight number and aircraft. I typically change money on Soi Arab, and that is on the way toward Nana. If things look bad, or we arrive late, we can move toward Thermae. Thanks again.

Why are there 4 times as many Transsexual people advertising than females. Also, why do none of the Transsexuals list A-levels in their 'likes' list?

After the pandemic nightmare that killed my travel plans over the past few years, I’m finally going back to Bangkok. I’m excited to hit the scene, but I’m wondering what’s changed. Has anything changed at all? What about the go-go bar scene? Are all the old bars like Baccara still in place? Is there anything else worth knowing, such as new bars worth visiting?

I assume that the famous spas in Ratchada haven’t reopened since their famous closures even before the pandemic. Are there any other places that have younger and slimmer girls? I’ve been to Bangkok so many times, yet I feel like I’m traveling there for the first time.

[QUOTE=VickyMama;2862980]Hi all,

I am going to be in Bangkok and Pattaya for a few days during new year. Want to make the most of this trip. Need suggestions and guidance about the best, classiest and memorable mongering experience money can buy. Chubby is my preferred body type, like massages and handjobs more than sex or blowjobs (the worry of catching std really keeps me from enjoying the act). What should I do and expect and how much is a decent amount to spend on a couple of experiences.[/QUOTE]Read the forum. That's what it's here for.

[QUOTE=VickyMama;2862980]Hi all,

I am going to be in Bangkok and Pattaya for a few days during new year. Want to make the most of this trip. Need suggestions and guidance about the best, classiest and memorable mongering experience money can buy. Chubby is my preferred body type, like massages and handjobs more than sex or blowjobs (the worry of catching std really keeps me from enjoying the act). What should I do and expect and how much is a decent amount to spend on a couple of experiences.[/QUOTE]I doubt you'll find a whole lot of Classy Chubby Ladies.

[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2862999]Why are there 4 times as many Transsexual people advertising than females. Also, why do none of the Transsexuals list A-levels in their 'likes' list?[/QUOTE]They don't have agency or independent listed, and Anal is not listed in the "likes". I am pretty sure they may or may not like. But do. Aren't they all so cute? Emoji.

[QUOTE=TConor;2863048]They don't have agency or independent listed, and Anal is not listed in the "likes". I am pretty sure they may or may not like. But do. Aren't they all so cute? Emoji.[/QUOTE]Hi.

There has been a change in the stance of local law enforcement. They are clamping down on escort agencies and made it clear to us we need to stop allowing agencies to advertise.

We are starting to remove agencies in Bangkok and allow independents. Most agencies bookings won't go through during this time. We apologise for this.

It is taking a bit of time and we are experiencing some tech issues, but in the coming days / weeks we will remove all of the agency escorts and open smooci up to independents and aim to allow 100 independents to advertise in Bangkok.

Best wishes,

Smooci team.

I am planning to stay at either of the three hotel Hyatt place Sukhumvit, courtyard by Marriott or Anantara Siam in last week of Nov, do these hotels allow guests? Do they charge extra? Any suggestions from folks who have stayed there is most welcome.

[QUOTE=VickyMama;2862980]Hi all,

I am going to be in Bangkok and Pattaya for a few days during new year. Want to make the most of this trip. Need suggestions and guidance about the best, classiest and memorable mongering experience money can buy. Chubby is my preferred body type, like massages and handjobs more than sex or blowjobs (the worry of catching std really keeps me from enjoying the act). What should I do and expect and how much is a decent amount to spend on a couple of experiences.[/QUOTE]RTFF and report back new mate.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2862957]Wow, how many mistakes did you make here? Lets see. 1. Accepted a ridiculous price. 2. Paid in advance 3. Didn't tell her to shut up and keep fucking her. 4. After crap service offered her a drink and gave her even more money. I can just imagine the laughs the girls have later about customers like you.

People, please, even if you pay over market (its your money), at least make sure you get something for it. Never ever pay in advance. Only girls that know they suck (not in the good way) demand payment in advance. Once you pay, all leverage is gone. IF she is reluctant, tell her she is free to go but doesn't get paid. Worst case give her 500 B to get her to leave (but I refuse to even do that).[/QUOTE]I get your point and you are right.

I can be a very shrewd negotiator when it comes to business or bargaining if the seller overprices, but when it comes to this, I need to better.

So, what's the amount that I should pay for Thermae?

Because the other girls also quoted the same and were not ready to budge.

Has anyone had prescription glasses made recently in Bangkok? Years ago, glasses were cheap to get made in Thailand. I was looking at replacing the lenses in my current glasses and was wondering if anyone had done this recently. Also, I was looking at getting a pair of glasses made with polarizing dark bi-focal lenses. Any recommendations or suggestions? Thanks for any assistance.

[QUOTE=Lecherous86;2863079]I am planning to stay at either of the three hotel Hyatt place Sukhumvit, courtyard by Marriott or Anantara Siam in last week of Nov, do these hotels allow guests? Do they charge extra? Any suggestions from folks who have stayed there is most welcome.[/QUOTE]I stayed at Hyatt place sukumvit my last trip. It is totally guest friendly. In fact you take the elevator directly to your room floor. Reception is at another floor. They gave me nice corner room. Very near to subway station.

Some years ago, I lost my glasses on the beach and my hotel concierge recommended me an optometrix. It was amazing. I got some silhouette glasses within 36 hours for 30% of the price in Germany. I am in BKK next week nd do it again.

It was more or less right beside of my hotel. The oriental.

[QUOTE=Rodwint2;2863189]Has anyone had prescription glasses made recently in Bangkok? Years ago, glasses were cheap to get made in Thailand. I was looking at replacing the lenses in my current glasses and was wondering if anyone had done this recently. Also, I was looking at getting a pair of glasses made with polarizing dark bi-focal lenses. Any recommendations or suggestions? Thanks for any assistance.[/QUOTE]

Get a prescription, with interpupil distance, or you can measure it yourself.

Order any frames or lenses on eBay, bifocals, polarized, colors ect, shipped to your address, quick, good and cheap.

Chinese Titanium frames are very light, strong and comfortable. They put all other brand-name designers to shame.

Had a wonderful time with bar, escorts, massage and web girls over a week. Visited Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy, massage houses. Did not want to go to Pattaya.

Girls were beautiful, nice, clean, polite, want sex, some even loving. We really made love.

General Thai population is genuinely nice, gentle, respectful, tolerant.

Best Beef AYCE AYCD Korean grill on the East end of Sukhumvit is an excellent deal for $10.50. Also a few other AYCE seafood grills for cheap on Yaowarat and Huay Khwang China towns. I was eating big every night. Grab taxi rides are cheap to everywhere, only $1-3.

Will take a couple Asia noobs for a 2-week tour at year end. Will be very sexy and lots of fun.

[QUOTE=Rodwint2;2863189]Has anyone had prescription glasses made recently in Bangkok? Years ago, glasses were cheap to get made in Thailand. I was looking at replacing the lenses in my current glasses and was wondering if anyone had done this recently. Also, I was looking at getting a pair of glasses made with polarizing dark bi-focal lenses. Any recommendations or suggestions? Thanks for any assistance.[/QUOTE]What are you talking about? You'd think they be cheap here, but they are not, never has been for as long as I can remember. For at least 20 years. Labor is cheap, but tech equipment is not.

[QUOTE=Zam007;2863134]I get your point and you are right.

I can be a very shrewd negotiator when it comes to business or bargaining if the seller overprices, but when it comes to this, I need to better.

So, what's the amount that I should pay for Thermae?

Because the other girls also quoted the same and were not ready to budge.[/QUOTE]Get out of Thermae. Too much of a sausage fest even with the dozens of ladies, most of whom are lazy and think they're Christie Brinkley in her prime. Try some street FL or go old school down to Patpong, other FL haunts, try the bars and Nana Plaza. Use TF. I find the same girls quoting 3000ST at Thermae that strike out are often 1200-2000 in the afternoon or one lady quoted me 3500 for 2 hours and everything, ended being Bht 4000 for 6 hours of multi pop awesome sex with a semi pro who goes to Thermae. She inferred there is kind of a "union" atmosphere to keep prices up at Thermae. So haggle or try a unique approach. All is fair in WAR. Pic attached of girl. Also a lot of the ladies talk about Asian men just paying what they want (Koreans and Japanese).

Initially I met the FL lady at Thermae, meh. Then saw her on TF, she recognized me. I offered her a gig as a sugar baby for good Baht per day. She said no, too much hassle (she gets $ all over), I thought for a few days, came back to her and she said 3500 for 2 hours. We met. I told her to bring a bikini. Went to the pool, had 3-4 drinks. Went back to my room gave her 1500 upfront. She blew me, I ate her. Covered sex. Gave her another 1500 Bht, she ended up staying for drinks, dinner and more boom booms. She left by 7 and I guess she went to Thermae or home. Who cares, now she is on my regular major league roster. Indeed a SP. Tipped her 1000 for 4 k LT total. And I never tip or pay up front. But changed my tactics cause this one is educated and still doing her 2nd degree and needs cash.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2860745]I would recommend against traveling with a bar girl.[/QUOTE]Amen, 3 days max for me even with regulars I know. The whining and constantly being late, constantly wanting $ and attention, or no attention or! At # is painful.

[QUOTE=Rodwint2;2863189]Has anyone had prescription glasses made recently in Bangkok? Years ago, glasses were cheap to get made in Thailand. I was looking at replacing the lenses in my current glasses and was wondering if anyone had done this recently. Also, I was looking at getting a pair of glasses made with polarizing dark bi-focal lenses. Any recommendations or suggestions? Thanks for any assistance.[/QUOTE]I have been with a couple of people looking for perception eyeglasses recently and we wound up going to a place called OWNDAYS. There are several locations in and around the lower Sukhumvit area. You can do a search for the Bkk locations. There is one across from Central World inside the Gaysorn Village mall at the exit to the skywalk across Ratchadamri from Central World. I think there is one inside Central World mall too.

They have a promotion deal for eye exam to determine your perception needs + lenses + frames for 4500 baht all included and they are done in 20 minutes. The frames you choose from for that deal aren't going to be the fanciest ones in the shop but there are several styles to choose from and the quality seems to be very good.

I can't say what the deal would be for polarizing dark bi-focal lenses because none of the people I was with inquired about something like that at those shops.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2863361]Get out of Thermae. Too much of a sausage fest even with the dozens of ladies, most of whom are lazy and think they're Christie Brinkley in her prime. Try some street FL or go old school down to Patpong, other FL haunts, try the bars and Nana Plaza. Use TF. I find the same girls quoting 3000ST at Thermae that strike out are often 1200-2000 in the afternoon or one lady quoted me 3500 for 2 hours and everything, ended being Bht 4000 for 6 hours of multi pop awesome sex with a semi pro who goes to Thermae. She inferred there is kind of a "union" atmosphere to keep prices up at Thermae. So haggle or try a unique approach. All is fair in WAR. Pic attached of girl. Also a lot of the ladies talk about Asian men just paying what they want (Koreans and Japanese).

Initially I met the FL lady at Thermae, meh. Then saw her on TF, she recognized me. I offered her a gig as a sugar baby for good Baht per day. She said no, too much hassle (she gets $ all over), I thought for a few days, came back to her and she said 3500 for 2 hours. We met. I told her to bring a bikini. Went to the pool, had 3-4 drinks. Went back to my room gave her 1500 upfront. She blew me, I ate her. Covered sex. Gave her another 1500 Bht, she ended up staying for drinks, dinner and more boom booms. She left by 7 and I guess she went to Thermae or home. Who cares, now she is on my regular major league roster. Indeed a SP. Tipped her 1000 for 4 k LT total. And I never tip or pay up front. But changed my tactics cause this one is educated and still doing her 2nd degree and needs cash.[/QUOTE]Thanks Man. I guess I wasn't the only one who ended up paying so much there. I will explore more options you suggested next time.

I was reached out by 4 other gentlemen (Message) who had similar similar experiences in Thermae.

I think this is more organized scam like thing going on there.

Fixed price.

Short Service.

Drama and leave.

Since, they are doing part time in a place frequented by tourists, they really don't care about their reputation as long as they get paid.

Thanks for your advice.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2863338]Get a prescription, with interpupil distance, or you can measure it yourself.

Order any frames or lenses on eBay, bifocals, polarized, colors ect, shipped to your address, quick, good and cheap.

Chinese Titanium frames are very light, strong and comfortable. They put all other brand-name designers to shame.[/QUOTE]I bought a lot of good Nikon frames 15 years ago on Ebay and use those. Unfortunately, the current availability of lenses in the US seem to be limited and Costco / Sam's Club prices are rather high for just lenses.

[QUOTE=WillSmith69;2863304]Some years ago, I lost my glasses on the beach and my hotel concierge recommended me an optometrix. It was amazing. I got some silhouette glasses within 36 hours for 30% of the price in Germany. I am in BKK next week nd do it again.

It was more or less right beside of my hotel. The oriental.[/QUOTE]I appreciate your suggestion and will look into it the next time I am in BKK!

[QUOTE=Rodwint2;2863482]I appreciate your suggestion and will look into it the next time I am in BKK![/QUOTE]Not the USA where those mall glasses shops are 1/2 price Thai prices. Go EU! 555.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2863338]Get a prescription, with interpupil distance, or you can measure it yourself.

Order any frames or lenses on eBay, bifocals, polarized, colors ect, shipped to your address, quick, good and cheap.

Chinese Titanium frames are very light, strong and comfortable. They put all other brand-name designers to shame.[/QUOTE]My vision is too precious to trust to eBay.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2863361]Get out of Thermae. Too much of a sausage fest even with the dozens of ladies, most of whom are lazy and think they're Christie Brinkley in her prime. Try some street FL or go old school down to Patpong, other FL haunts, try the bars and Nana Plaza. Use TF. I find the same girls quoting 3000ST at Thermae that strike out are often 1200-2000 in the afternoon or one lady quoted me 3500 for 2 hours and everything, ended being Bht 4000 for 6 hours of multi pop awesome sex with a semi pro who goes to Thermae. She inferred there is kind of a "union" atmosphere to keep prices up at Thermae. So haggle or try a unique approach. All is fair in WAR. Pic attached of girl. Also a lot of the ladies talk about Asian men just paying what they want (Koreans and Japanese).

Initially I met the FL lady at Thermae, meh. Then saw her on TF, she recognized me. I offered her a gig as a sugar baby for good Baht per day. She said no, too much hassle (she gets $ all over), I thought for a few days, came back to her and she said 3500 for 2 hours. We met. I told her to bring a bikini. Went to the pool, had 3-4 drinks. Went back to my room gave her 1500 upfront. She blew me, I ate her. Covered sex. Gave her another 1500 Bht, she ended up staying for drinks, dinner and more boom booms. She left by 7 and I guess she went to Thermae or home. Who cares, now she is on my regular major league roster. Indeed a SP. Tipped her 1000 for 4 k LT total. And I never tip or pay up front. But changed my tactics cause this one is educated and still doing her 2nd degree and needs cash.[/QUOTE]I banged that girl out of Thermae, she isa regular there.

[QUOTE=TConor;2863343]What are you talking about? You'd think they be cheap here, but they are not, never has been for as long as I can remember. For at least 20 years. Labor is cheap, but tech equipment is not.[/QUOTE]Lenses were cheap pre-covid.

Now they are not anymore. I used to bring new frames (bought for cheap on internet) and make the lens in Thailand and would get the lenses at a quarter of the price it costs in my own country.

Last time I did it was in November last year, prices have gone up dramatically, they didn't even have the Seiko lenses anymore, they put a Thai brand.

It's still cheaper than my country, but the quality is not that good, I don't bother anymore doing this.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2863340]Had a wonderful time with bar, escorts, massage and web girls over a week. Visited Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy, massage houses. Did not want to go to Pattaya.

Girls were beautiful, nice, clean, polite, want sex, some even loving. We really made love.

General Thai population is genuinely nice, gentle, respectful, tolerant.

Best Beef AYCE AYCD Korean grill on the East end of Sukhumvit is an excellent deal for $10.50. Also a few other AYCE seafood grills for cheap on Yaowarat and Huay Khwang China towns. I was eating big every night. Grab taxi rides are cheap to everywhere, only $1-3.

Will take a couple Asia noobs for a 2-week tour at year end. Will be very sexy and lots of fun.[/QUOTE]Fancy seeing CS in the Thailand forum. I trust you didn't come across any smelly vaginas in Bangkok as we find in Tijuana LOL.

[QUOTE=Zam007;2863444]Thanks Man. I guess I wasn't the only one who ended up paying so much there. I will explore more options you suggested next time.

I was reached out by 4 other gentlemen (Message) who had similar similar experiences in Thermae.

I think this is more organized scam like thing going on there.

Fixed price.

Short Service.

Drama and leave.

Since, they are doing part time in a place frequented by tourists, they really don't care about their reputation as long as they get paid.

Thanks for your advice.[/QUOTE]Actually depends on the girl have picked up some long term gems there maybe about 30% were great. Prices have ranged from 2-3 K for short time. Long time add another 1-2 K plus I may tip.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2863514]I banged that girl out of Thermae, she isa regular there.[/QUOTE]This one. I've forgotten her name, I call her Harriet, she is attactive but her std now is 3500 for 2 hours.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2863536]Lenses were cheap pre-covid.

Now they are not anymore. I used to bring new frames (bought for cheap on internet) and make the lens in Thailand and would get the lenses at a quarter of the price it costs in my own country.

Last time I did it was in November last year, prices have gone up dramatically, they didn't even have the Seiko lenses anymore, they put a Thai brand.

It's still cheaper than my country, but the quality is not that good, I don't bother anymore doing this.[/QUOTE]This is exactly what I was thinking of doing. Your experience is similar to what I had heard of the last few years as the costs are much higher and takes much longer to manufacture. Thanks again for your assistance!

About 50% Tijuana bar girls and escorts will shove their dead-fish pussies in your face. No amount of washing will get rid of the disgusting odors, which ooze out from deep inside when the girls are aroused.

OTOH Couple Thai girls I bagged all smelled good, felt good, skin soft and smooth like satin, gentle, polite, passionate in bed, wanted sex as much as I did. Sessions were full DFK, kiss, lick, poke, rub, squeeze. Girls were purring with the foreplays, hang on tight and made me keep pumping until they popped hehe.

Bar girls in Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy bars will want 3000-4000 for ST plus 700 to 1000 bar fine. Lots of pretty girls are on the streets touting or in bikinis on the carousels showing skin. Rainbow is the biggest bar, had about 500 girls; Billboard had about 300 with 2 dozen showing natural boobs in a dry bath tub.

Bangkok is nice, clean, green with trucks sweeping and washing streets even on the outskirts Thai general population is nice, happy, honest, polite, patient, respectful, really smile with their hearts.

Food is delish and cheap everywhere. $10 AYCE AYCD Best Beef Korean BBQ off Sukhumvit. The Ahi sashimi with sweet, sour, spicy sauce was so good, I had 2 servings on top of all cuts of beef and other seafood on the grill.

I was skeptical too, until I tried a couple times and got consistent good quality.

Where do you think lenses are made nowaday? Definitely not by Zeiss in Germany.

My ophthalmologists and optometrists have sales girls push crude and ugly Chinese frames on me for $300-500. They ship frames to an optical company in Sacramento to fit the lenses by minimum-wage workers, who always screw up the lenses' astigmatism orientation, distorting my vision. WTF? I am disgusted with their stupid greed. I hate to help my doctors buy their Lamborghinis at my expense.

Carevisionoptical in eBay sold $25 high-index polycarbonate lenses, Titanium frames light, strong, fashionable, only $10-25. Got my vision taken care of much better than by dumb, greedy Socal doctors.

Smocci seems to be fighting back, 20 girls on it tonight for Bangkok including quite a few familiar faces that are now listing themselves as "independent". Also the prices seem to have gone back down to the average 3,500-,4,000 for 2 hrs.

So if it keeps improving bit by bit with the numbers, it could still remain a handy app and alternative to trawling the street / bars late at night.

Anyone know either of these 2 new targets that popped up on my TF search.

1st four pics is Miley, wee spinner, FL girl 26 yrs old and a tiny, trim body.

5th pic is Pear, FL Sugar Baby wannabe.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2863536]Lenses were cheap pre-covid.

Now they are not anymore. I used to bring new frames (bought for cheap on internet) and make the lens in Thailand and would get the lenses at a quarter of the price it costs in my own country.

Last time I did it was in November last year, prices have gone up dramatically, they didn't even have the Seiko lenses anymore, they put a Thai brand.

It's still cheaper than my country, but the quality is not that good, I don't bother anymore doing this.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.lazada.co.th/tag/glasses-frames-for-men/?spm=a2o4m.home-th.search.1.2602rgbdrgbdj1&q=glasses%20frames%20for%20men&_keyori=ss&clickTrackInfo=textId--7593917704701796407__abId--308215__Score--86.0__pvid--9f4076c6-c1f9-42e0-86d2-dd932d31aa5d__matchType--1__matchList--1-2-3__srcQuery--glasses%20frames%20for%20men__spellQuery--glasses%20frames%20for%20men__ctrScore--0.0__cvrScore--0.0&from=suggest_normal&sugg=glasses%20frames%20for%20men_0_1&catalog_redirect_tag=true[/URL]

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2863798]About 50% Tijuana bar girls and escorts will shove their dead-fish pussies in your face. No amount of washing will get rid of the disgusting odors, which ooze out from deep inside when the girls are aroused.

OTOH Couple Thai girls I bagged all smelled good, felt good, skin soft and smooth like satin, gentle, polite, passionate in bed, wanted sex as much as I did. Sessions were full DFK, kiss, lick, poke, rub, squeeze. Girls were purring with the foreplays, hang on tight and made me keep pumping until they popped hehe.

Bar girls in Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy bars will want 3000-4000 for ST plus 700 to 1000 bar fine. Lots of pretty girls are on the streets touting or in bikinis on the carousels showing skin. Rainbow is the biggest bar, had about 500 girls; Billboard had about 300 with 2 dozen showing natural boobs in a dry bath tub.

Bangkok is nice, clean, green with trucks sweeping and washing streets even on the outskirts Thai general population is nice, happy, honest, polite, patient, respectful, really smile with their hearts.

Food is delish and cheap everywhere. $10 AYCE AYCD Best Beef Korean BBQ off Sukhumvit. The Ahi sashimi with sweet, sour, spicy sauce was so good, I had 2 servings on top of all cuts of beef and other seafood on the grill.[/QUOTE]Rainbow had 500 grils. Hahaha. Hahaha.

Really. Really really?

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2862265]Recently I was treated like an Indian in Pattaya.

One drink and I was Booted before my usual 30 minutes.

It did not feel Pleasent. Hahaha.[/QUOTE]Lmao, you were properly treated like a cheap Charlie, pushing anything like 20 -30 minutes on the first drink is really pushing it for me. Self respect alone would have me gone by then if I was not enjoying myself. I mean we are talking $5 usd or less beer. If I was and wanted lo stay but not drink ID buy a lady a drink. That has little or nothing to do with your being Indian. When I know I up against a stereotype I take measures to mitigate it.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2863654]This one. I've forgotten her name, I call her Harriet, she is attactive but her std now is 3500 for 2 hours.[/QUOTE]Not for me it wasn't.

So here is your report from the ground, last night, a mere 24 hours after another flight from hell from the States. Note to travelers: The food sucks on Asiana. Oh wait, the food sucks on all airlines. OK, Asiana sucks worse.

Thermae was packed with all sorts of hot girls. Packed. 80% plus were doable, something for everyone. It was loaded with Chinese too. And, beyond that, they were yokels. I had a few girls laughing their asses off because this fat old man was calling the Chinese dudes Khun Bannok. Seriously, I bet some never saw a flush toilet before. And a note to my Chinese friends, getting drunk and horseplaying loudly is so Thailand 1980's, I never even saw Brits act like that. My word guys, smoke some weed, the Thai girls don't like you or respect you so why act like drunken louts.

There were some newbie Westerners there so I gave them the rundown. One guy kept saying "I can't beleive how many beautiful girls there are here".

ID say 90% of the girls were "new", that is, I had never seen them before and I was only gone a month. I just watched the scene, took some numbers and chilled. For those of you who are Thermae experienced, it was nice to see the Boss there, he even stood at the bar direction spot for a while. He says he is OK, but I think he is having some health problems. Super nice guy, as are all the other staff, for those of you who don't know, most of them speak English fairly well.

The price at Thermae is 2500ST. RTFF.

Next stop, Nana via BJ spots. Walked down Suk (nothing noteworthy, saw the usual girls and ladyboys), crossed at the Hotel escalator, down Soi 12 to Lolitas, flee in terror, cross over to Kasalong, throw up in my throat, walk down to Nana, dodge Africans and ladyboys and hiot the GoGos. Went into Twisters, meh. Crossed over to Bunny's, schmoozed with the Mamasan, nothing stuck my eye, went up to Rainbow 5 (the first one you come to from escalator), tipped my usual servers, ladydrinked a hottie, she was so new she didn't know what to charge, she talked to someone and said 4 k. I took her Line info for later. Then I went upstairs to Billboard where I spied a few. Unfortunately, the Chinese were at it again, some dudes were distracting every girl in the place by tossing 20's in the air, lots of screaming and scrambling. What a player, lets toss out. 75 cent pieces. Get tossed out of Vegas for that, where I come from, real men toss 100's.

I left right before midnight as everything was closing early. I was going to grab one of those cheap, yet tasty Nana burgers near the weed shop across the street, so I stood in the parking lot and took a few wacks off my hitter. All of a sudden, a babe who I used to smash at Thermae charged at me and virtually tackled me. I hadn't seen her in Thermae for a month or so before I left and she said she didn't go there anymore because no customers so she was broke and decided to come to the street outside Nana. And it was her first time there, since she didn't even know where the ST hotel was LOL. One of the other girls directed her. Great time.

There is your report. I took the time to write it, so show some respect for those of us who give you on the ground intelligence by Reading the Fucking Forum before asking questions.

See enough ads, ya just got to try it. Popped in, got the line up. No one really incredibly good looking, but not bad, and fuck it, it's just a hummer for 800 baht. Picked a girl, upstairs we went. They have this funky little wash basin you straddle and get washed up. Little tiny towel to put your ass on, and then she just starts going to town. "30 minutes" purchased, but to be honest, I was getting bored after 10, so got it done, got washed up and out. Wouldn't return, so many other more appealing options.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2863798]Rainbow is the biggest bar, had about 500 girls; Billboard had about 300 with 2 dozen showing natural boobs in a dry bath tub.[/QUOTE]800 gogo girls in 2 bars. No fire safety codes at the bars?

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2863911]Not for me it wasn't.

So here is your report from the ground, last night, a mere 24 hours after another flight from hell from the States. Note to travelers: The food sucks on Asiana. Oh wait, the food sucks on all airlines. OK, Asiana sucks worse.

Thermae was packed with all sorts of hot girls. Packed. 80% plus were doable, something for everyone. It was loaded with Chinese too. And, beyond that, they were yokels. I had a few girls laughing their asses off because this fat old man was calling the Chinese dudes Khun Bannok. Seriously, I bet some never saw a flush toilet before. And a note to my Chinese friends, getting drunk and horseplaying loudly is so Thailand 1980's, I never even saw Brits act like that. My word guys, smoke some weed, the Thai girls don't like you or respect you so why act like drunken louts.

There were some newbie Westerners there so I gave them the rundown. One guy kept saying "I can't beleive how many beautiful girls there are here".

ID say 90% of the girls were "new", that is, I had never seen them before and I was only gone a month. I just watched the scene, took some numbers and chilled. For those of you who are Thermae experienced, it was nice to see the Boss there, he even stood at the bar direction spot for a while. He says he is OK, but I think he is having some health problems. Super nice guy, as are all the other staff, for those of you who don't know, most of them speak English fairly well.

The price at Thermae is 2500ST. RTFF.

Next stop, Nana via BJ spots. Walked down Suk (nothing noteworthy, saw the usual girls and ladyboys), crossed at the Hotel escalator, down Soi 12 to Lolitas, flee in terror, cross over to Kasalong, throw up in my throat, walk down to Nana, dodge Africans and ladyboys and hiot the GoGos. Went into Twisters, meh. Crossed over to Bunny's, schmoozed with the Mamasan, nothing stuck my eye, went up to Rainbow 5 (the first one you come to from escalator), tipped my usual servers, ladydrinked a hottie, she was so new she didn't know what to charge, she talked to someone and said 4 k. I took her Line info for later. Then I went upstairs to Billboard where I spied a few. Unfortunately, the Chinese were at it again, some dudes were distracting every girl in the place by tossing 20's in the air, lots of screaming and scrambling. What a player, lets toss out. 75 cent pieces. Get tossed out of Vegas for that, where I come from, real men toss 100's.

I left right before midnight as everything was closing early. I was going to grab one of those cheap, yet tasty Nana burgers near the weed shop across the street, so I stood in the parking lot and took a few wacks off my hitter. All of a sudden, a babe who I used to smash at Thermae charged at me and virtually tackled me. I hadn't seen her in Thermae for a month or so before I left and she said she didn't go there anymore because no customers so she was broke and decided to come to the street outside Nana. And it was her first time there, since she didn't even know where the ST hotel was LOL. One of the other girls directed her. Great time.

There is your report. I took the time to write it, so show some respect for those of us who give you on the ground intelligence by Reading the Fucking Forum before asking questions.[/QUOTE]Thanks Nyezhov.

Did you mean Soi 8 not Soi 12 for Lolitas and Kasalong?

Then down Soi 6 and up Soi 4 to NEP?

Or where you trying to get the newbies lost? LOL.

She quoted mec 3500 from TF mate.

I don't need to RTFF, I live here and many girls quote 3 k ST. I've been on this forum 17 years. I put up pictures and provide members via msg with detailed contacts.

You! At #ZT arrogant, ignorant douche.

YMMV.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2863911]Not for me it wasn't.



So here is your report from the ground, last night, a mere 24 hours after another flight from hell from the States. Note to travelers: The food sucks on Asiana. Oh wait, the food sucks on all airlines. OK, Asiana sucks worse.

Thermae was packed with all sorts of hot girls. Packed. 80% plus were doable, something for everyone. It was loaded with Chinese too. And, beyond that, they were yokels. I had a few girls laughing their asses off because this fat old man was calling the Chinese dudes Khun Bannok. Seriously, I bet some never saw a flush toilet before. And a note to my Chinese friends, getting drunk and horseplaying loudly is so Thailand 1980's, I never even saw Brits act like that. My word guys, smoke some weed, the Thai girls don't like you or respect you so why act like drunken louts.

There were some newbie Westerners there so I gave them the rundown. One guy kept saying "I can't beleive how many beautiful girls there are here".

ID say 90% of the girls were "new", that is, I had never seen them before and I was only gone a month. I just watched the scene, took some numbers and chilled. For those of you who are Thermae experienced, it was nice to see the Boss there, he even stood at the bar direction spot for a while. He says he is OK, but I think he is having some health problems. Super nice guy, as are all the other staff, for those of you who don't know, most of them speak English fairly well.

The price at Thermae is 2500ST. RTFF.

Next stop, Nana via BJ spots. Walked down Suk (nothing noteworthy, saw the usual girls and ladyboys), crossed at the Hotel escalator, down Soi 12 to Lolitas, flee in terror, cross over to Kasalong, throw up in my throat, walk down to Nana, dodge Africans and ladyboys and hiot the GoGos. Went into Twisters, meh. Crossed over to Bunny's, schmoozed with the Mamasan, nothing stuck my eye, went up to Rainbow 5 (the first one you come to from escalator), tipped my usual servers, ladydrinked a hottie, she was so new she didn't know what to charge, she talked to someone and said 4 k. I took her Line info for later. Then I went upstairs to Billboard where I spied a few. Unfortunately, the Chinese were at it again, some dudes were distracting every girl in the place by tossing 20's in the air, lots of screaming and scrambling. What a player, lets toss out. 75 cent pieces. Get tossed out of Vegas for that, where I come from, real men toss 100's.

I left right before midnight as everything was closing early. I was going to grab one of those cheap, yet tasty Nana burgers near the weed shop across the street, so I stood in the parking lot and took a few wacks off my hitter. All of a sudden, a babe who I used to smash at Thermae charged at me and virtually tackled me. I hadn't seen her in Thermae for a month or so before I left and she said she didn't go there anymore because no customers so she was broke and decided to come to the street outside Nana. And it was her first time there, since she didn't even know where the ST hotel was LOL. One of the other girls directed her. Great time.

There is your report. I took the time to write it, so show some respect for those of us who give you on the ground intelligence by Reading the Fucking Forum before asking questions.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2863911]Not for me it wasn't.

So here is your report from the ground, last night, a mere 24 hours after another flight from hell from the States. Note to travelers: The food sucks on Asiana. Oh wait, the food sucks on all airlines. OK, Asiana sucks worse.

Thermae was packed with all sorts of hot girls. Packed. 80% plus were doable, something for everyone. It was loaded with Chinese too. And, beyond that, they were yokels. I had a few girls laughing their asses off because this fat old man was calling the Chinese dudes Khun Bannok. Seriously, I bet some never saw a flush toilet before. And a note to my Chinese friends, getting drunk and horseplaying loudly is so Thailand 1980's, I never even saw Brits act like that. My word guys, smoke some weed, the Thai girls don't like you or respect you so why act like drunken louts.

There were some newbie Westerners there so I gave them the rundown. One guy kept saying "I can't beleive how many beautiful girls there are here".

ID say 90% of the girls were "new", that is, I had never seen them before and I was only gone a month. I just watched the scene, took some numbers and chilled. For those of you who are Thermae experienced, it was nice to see the Boss there, he even stood at the bar direction spot for a while. He says he is OK, but I think he is having some health problems. Super nice guy, as are all the other staff, for those of you who don't know, most of them speak English fairly well.

The price at Thermae is 2500ST. RTFF.

Next stop, Nana via BJ spots. Walked down Suk (nothing noteworthy, saw the usual girls and ladyboys), crossed at the Hotel escalator, down Soi 12 to Lolitas, flee in terror, cross over to Kasalong, throw up in my throat, walk down to Nana, dodge Africans and ladyboys and hiot the GoGos. Went into Twisters, meh. Crossed over to Bunny's, schmoozed with the Mamasan, nothing stuck my eye, went up to Rainbow 5 (the first one you come to from escalator), tipped my usual servers, ladydrinked a hottie, she was so new she didn't know what to charge, she talked to someone and said 4 k. I took her Line info for later. Then I went upstairs to Billboard where I spied a few. Unfortunately, the Chinese were at it again, some dudes were distracting every girl in the place by tossing 20's in the air, lots of screaming and scrambling. What a player, lets toss out. 75 cent pieces. Get tossed out of Vegas for that, where I come from, real men toss 100's.

I left right before midnight as everything was closing early. I was going to grab one of those cheap, yet tasty Nana burgers near the weed shop across the street, so I stood in the parking lot and took a few wacks off my hitter. All of a sudden, a babe who I used to smash at Thermae charged at me and virtually tackled me. I hadn't seen her in Thermae for a month or so before I left and she said she didn't go there anymore because no customers so she was broke and decided to come to the street outside Nana. And it was her first time there, since she didn't even know where the ST hotel was LOL. One of the other girls directed her. Great time.

There is your report. I took the time to write it, so show some respect for those of us who give you on the ground intelligence by Reading the Fucking Forum before asking questions.[/QUOTE]555, thanks for the report dude, delivered in your usual humorous tongue-in-cheek style! Useful as I'll be there in two weeks. Just a few random comments / thoughts:

* All airline food sucks? Not if you fly Emirates biz class! Added bonus is chilling in the upstairs onboard lounge on their A380's! Not cheap tho.

* Thermae: I've had my share of take-outs over the past 40 years or so. And they were mostly meh, very transactional. The only memorable one was a SYT I bumped into on the sidewalk as I left the joint and she was about to enter. But if you spotted so many "new" and doable ones, I might go down to say Hi to The Boss, have a JW soda, and do a lap or two around to check out the current talent!

* Chinese mongers: Sigh, how I wish it were lockdown again. Frightening news flash: "Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin announced last week that Thailand would waive tourist visa requirements for nationals of China and Kazakhstan from Sept. 25 to Feb. 29,2024. The government hopes the policy will boost foreign visitor numbers to 30 million this year, including 5 million Chinese. ".

* Lolitas: pardon the nitpicking, it's down Soi 8.

* BJ spots: Back in the day, I would sometimes frequent Lolitas and Kasalong; the former was very convenient for an early morning farewell BJ before going to the airport. These days, the only BJ joint I hit is 7-Heaven on Soi 33. Girls are non-vomit inducing, service is generally good, and worth the 1,300 baht. I like it for a just-got-into-town stress reliever. After a visit to my favorite weed shop!

* Nana, Cowboy, Patpong: I used to visit the Big 3 and have barfined many a lass over the years. But now, never again! Just too much hustle and hassle, and many bargirls are -- for lack of a better word -- fuglies! Must be getting old and lazy, but nowadays I much prefer good nuru / massage joints as well as escorts in the comfort of my hotel / condo -- with a nice bottle of wine and something smokable to get into the mood!

Anyhoo, thanks again for the great gonzo-style monger journalism, and look forward to your future reports!

[QUOTE=PgReal;2863838] Also the prices seem to have gone back down to the average 3,500-,4,000 for 2 hrs.[/QUOTE]But still plenty of chancers asking for 6 - 7 k.

I braved the heavy rain today and ventured out to Soi Cowboy.

But such a bummer, everything closed and the whole alley was dark and deserted.

Is the neighborhood closed on Sundays??

I believe it's a buddhist holiday.

[QUOTE=DogLife;2864075]I braved the heavy rain today and ventured out to Soi Cowboy.

But such a bummer, everything closed and the whole alley was dark and deserted.

Is the neighborhood closed on Sundays??[/QUOTE]Buddhist holiday.

[QUOTE=DogLife;2864075]I braved the heavy rain today and ventured out to Soi Cowboy.

But such a bummer, everything closed and the whole alley was dark and deserted.

Is the neighborhood closed on Sundays??[/QUOTE]No alcohol sold Sunday, October 29 so everything closed.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2864163]No alcohol sold Sunday, October 29 so everything closed.[/QUOTE]The Phansa retreat period is sometimes referred to as 'Buddhist Lent' and ends with Awk Phansa (usually in October). Know where you are, respect the country's culture.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2863939]800 gogo girls in 2 bars. No fire safety codes at the bars?[/QUOTE]I would estimate that Billboard had 50 girls on Sat night at about 11:30, not counting the bathtub gang. Loads of heavily tattooed blondes, one of whom to my eye was clearly a post op.

Note to Newbies: Thai girls aren't 5'9" with a Kardashian VW Beetle ass. Investigate further.

[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2863950]Thanks Nyezhov.

Did you mean Soi 8 not Soi 12 for Lolitas and Kasalong?

Then down Soi 6 and up Soi 4 to NEP?

Or where you trying to get the newbies lost? LOL.[/QUOTE]Well other than the Soi 12 error, clearly caused by exhaustion and some fab Satans Lettuce (Gorilla Nuts, Hybrid) from my local, I thought I had given the correct description and their arent any street signs, so lets take your description and make a mini map, Viz, the short tour:

The Short Tour.

Start at Thermae (Soi 15).

Walk down (away from T21) Sukhumvit. Ie, pitch a right after leaving Thermae. South East for you compass dudes.

Pass lustful "females", majority are ladyboys.

Stop at Margarita Storm Soi 13 for a San Diego Burrito. Yum.

There are tons of Africans on that corner. My canned response is: No, motherfucker, I am an American and don't need your help for anything.

Locate the escalator outside the Hyatt. Take it up. There is no down.

Cross on Bridge, walk down first stairs, don't continue on Bridge.

You are now on the even number side of Suk. Facing the wrong way. Turn around. Head the same way you were going.

Take a left down SOI 8, a street that was misidentified by some stoned pedantic dickhead as Soi 12.

Pass a Sub Soi on the right, then when you come to the next sub Soi, maybe 100 meters make a right.

Lolitas is on the left, 50 yards in. Hold down your gorge and keep going. 10 yards past, the Soi opens up into a little passage. The cats are usually friendly, at least to me.

Take the passage and Kasalong is on your left. Chances are that you won't find a mouth attractive enough to fill with your manjuice.

You are now in sort of an open square. Straight down the road is Soi 6. You want to head that way, its the only way to go.

Don't make your first right. Or left. Straight. Forward. In the distance, you will see the revels and flames of Hell, and begin you hear the yammering of the damned.

2 minutes. You are now on Soi 4, Soi Nana, the Pit, the Circus, on the list of the 10 most strange places in the known universe. Go RIGHT on the corner of Soi 6 and Soi 4.

African hookers will be right there 10 yards from the corner.

Across the street Meaning across the street, more Freelancers, ladyboys and etc. If you are nervous, you may want to cross to this side of the street.

Because 100 meters down the road is an alley next to the sleaziest 7-11 in the known universe which is replete with aggressive ladyboys. Even an African one or two.

Nana plaza is about 150 yards past, on the right. The Nana burgers across the street are tasty. Hooters faces Nana Plaza.

How's that?

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2863955]She quoted mec 3500 from TF mate.

I don't need to RTFF, I live here and many girls quote 3 k ST. I've been on this forum 17 years. I put up pictures and provide members via msg with detailed contacts.

You! At #ZT arrogant, ignorant douche.

YMMV.[/QUOTE]Well perhaps you should RTFF to see how this is a community where folks get along, even though they might be butt hurt because their fav hooker gives it up cheaper to someone else.

[QUOTE=Bigstud;2863988]555, thanks for the report dude, delivered in your usual humorous tongue-in-cheek style! Useful as I'll be there in two weeks. Just a few random comments / thoughts:

* All airline food sucks? Not if you fly Emirates biz class! Added bonus is chilling in the upstairs onboard lounge on their A380's! Not cheap tho.

* Thermae: I've had my share of take-outs over the past 40 years or so. And they were mostly meh, very transactional. The only memorable one was a SYT I bumped into on the sidewalk as I left the joint and she was about to enter. But if you spotted so many "new" and doable ones, I might go down to say Hi to The Boss, have a JW soda, and do a lap or two around to check out the current talent!

* Chinese mongers: Sigh, how I wish it were lockdown again. Frightening news flash: "Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin announced last week that Thailand would waive tourist visa requirements for nationals of China and Kazakhstan from Sept. 25 to Feb. 29,2024. The government hopes the policy will boost foreign visitor numbers to 30 million this year, including 5 million Chinese. ".

* Lolitas: pardon the nitpicking, it's down Soi 8.

* BJ spots: Back in the day, I would sometimes frequent Lolitas and Kasalong; the former was very convenient for an early morning farewell BJ before going to the airport. These days, the only BJ joint I hit is 7-Heaven on Soi 33. Girls are non-vomit inducing, service is generally good, and worth the 1,300 baht. I like it for a just-got-into-town stress reliever. After a visit to my favorite weed shop![/QUOTE]Emirates: Most of my incoming and outgoing is via the West Coast. As to business class, I'm on my 6th trip this year, that cuts into the budget. And I've been flying Korean, there is no Micchelin starred Kimchi.

Thermae: The Boss is usually there 2 or 3 x per week. BTW, the food is pretty good there. Ask the Staff to clear you a spot to eat.

Chinese Mongers: Nuff said.

Soi 8: Fixed.

BJ Bars: I agree with you about 7 Heaven. But its too far away to be included on the Short tour.

Nana etc: I never go to Cowboy and Patpong. Nana area is great for people watching and I love that. I can sit on the steps of the Ruamchitt for hours and watch the fun. But I'm only down there if I have a reason to be downtown, its half an hour to 45 mins for me by car or transit.

[QUOTE=TConor;2864168]The Phansa retreat period is sometimes referred to as 'Buddhist Lent' and ends with Awk Phansa (usually in October). Know where you are, respect the country's culture.[/QUOTE]Thanks TConor!

How will be the talent supply today? BAU?

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2863911]Not for me it wasn't.



Thermae was packed with all sorts of hot girls. Packed. 80% plus were doable, something for everyone. It was loaded with Chinese too. And, beyond that, they were yokels. I had a few girls laughing their asses off because this fat old man was calling the Chinese dudes Khun Bannok. Seriously, I bet some never saw a flush toilet before. And a note to my Chinese friends, getting drunk and horseplaying loudly is so Thailand 1980's, I never even saw Brits act like that. My word guys, smoke some weed, the Thai girls don't like you or respect you so why act like drunken louts.

There were some newbie Westerners there so I gave them the rundown. One guy kept saying "I can't beleive how many beautiful girls there are here".

ID say 90% of the girls were "new", that is, I had never seen them before and I was only gone a month. I just watched the scene, took some numbers and chilled. For those of you who are Thermae experienced, it was nice to see the Boss there, he even stood at the bar direction spot for a while. He says he is OK, but I think he is having some health problems. Super nice guy, as are all the other staff, for those of you who don't know, most of them speak English fairly well.

The price at Thermae is 2500ST.[/QUOTE]Good seeing your report. Not a newbie to Thailand, but definitely to Thermae. I was also there Saturday around 9 pm. Got lucky to get a seat in the center island. I do agree there were lots of cute girls there, however I did get the non response when trying to get attention of some of the pretty young ones. Very noticeable the attention given to the Asian customers vs western. I guess I'll just have to work on my Thermae game as I definitely felt very rusty. Might stop back this evening for my last night here until I come back in March.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2864163]No alcohol sold Sunday, October 29 so everything closed.[/QUOTE]Even though there was no alcohol and some, bars closed, it seemed like there were way more freelancers out last night than the past few. I guess many who would hang out at the bars hit the streets instead.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2863911]Not for me it wasn't.

So here is your report from the ground, last night, a mere 24 hours after another flight from hell from the States. Note to travelers: The food sucks on Asiana. Oh wait, the food sucks on all airlines. OK, Asiana sucks worse.

Thermae was packed with all sorts of hot girls. Packed. 80% plus were doable, something for everyone. It was loaded with Chinese too. And, beyond that, they were yokels. I had a few girls laughing their asses off because this fat old man was calling the Chinese dudes Khun Bannok. Seriously, I bet some never saw a flush toilet before. And a note to my Chinese friends, getting drunk and horseplaying loudly is so Thailand 1980's, I never even saw Brits act like that. My word guys, smoke some weed, the Thai girls don't like you or respect you so why act like drunken louts.

There were some newbie Westerners there so I gave them the rundown. One guy kept saying "I can't beleive how many beautiful girls there are here".

ID say 90% of the girls were "new", that is, I had never seen them before and I was only gone a month. I just watched the scene, took some numbers and chilled. For those of you who are Thermae experienced, it was nice to see the Boss there, he even stood at the bar direction spot for a while. He says he is OK, but I think he is having some health problems. Super nice guy, as are all the other staff, for those of you who don't know, most of them speak English fairly well..[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. I will need to go checkout Thermae this time. It is astonishing to me that I have stayed more than 5-6 times in the hotels on either side of Thermae but never once stepped into Thermae, simply because I had my schedule too full. This time it is not going to be any different either but I will certainly step in there this time around.

Next week I reach Bangkok for a week. It is a work-cum-pleasure trip. I spend a week on my way to Singapore and Seoul (work destinations, but there is JJ Mahoney's in Grand Hyatt Seoul also so there is some fun there too. LOL) and another week in December while returning.

I have several girls lined up from Tinder and Bumble, I will need to learn on the juggling skill given I just have 7 days and 5-7 girls in the list. I really need to prioritize things before I get there.

The one that I am really looking forward to meet is 31 yrs old, works in some fashion store, sells high-end purse and stuff. She looks super sexy and tells me she doesn't do this but will meet me for lunch and decide. I guess most girls say that. (In the past, I have never had a single walk-out on me so.

Next in the list is a 30 yrs old IT analyst, looks pretty sexy and seemed a bit decisive on what she wants - 10 k for an overnight.

Another is a 21 yrs old student. Now, I am not into super young girls but she didn't appear to be a kido to me. Her exams get over on the 6th and she will have all the time after that. Probably be a good fit during the day time since all others seemed to have work of some kind. All others are more or less have similar attributes.

However, with all this rolling supplies coming in, I really like the experience of hanging-out, the booze, picking up someone at a nightclub and bringing her back and fucking her. So I also have plans to go to Havana Social, Levels, Pimp and maybe Penny & Black. And yes, I want to go to The Bamboo Bar in Oriental Mandarin for sure to check it out, I have heard sketchy claims about it being a place to pickup some high-end meat, I want to validate.

[QUOTE=Davey1965;2864207]Good seeing your report. Not a newbie to Thailand, but definitely to Thermae. I was also there Saturday around 9 pm. Got lucky to get a seat in the center island. I do agree there were lots of cute girls there, however I did get the non response when trying to get attention of some of the pretty young ones. Very noticeable the attention given to the Asian customers vs western. I guess I'll just have to work on my Thermae game as I definitely felt very rusty. Might stop back this evening for my last night here until I come back in March.[/QUOTE]You may have seen me there, I'm recognizable.

Girls not responding? Up your game. Lately I have been buying them random drinks. Costs nothing. I have hotties approach me and I refuse them, tell them next week. Then I take them in two weeks. Etc.

Attention Thermae Denizens. Has anyone ever tried the pie faced girl who stands halfway on the right (facing from entrance). She had a pie faced Mama that used to work there with her, she's been there for at least 4 years plus.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2864216]You may have seen me there, I'm recognizable.

Girls not responding? Up your game. Lately I have been buying them random drinks. Costs nothing. I have hotties approach me and I refuse them, tell them next week. Then I take them in two weeks. Etc.

Attention Thermae Denizens. Has anyone ever tried the pie faced girl who stands halfway on the right (facing from entrance). She had a pie faced Mama that used to work there with her, she's been there for at least 4 years plus.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I'll give it a go again tonight before heading back down to Nana.

[URL]https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-news-foreigners/2023/08/18/biggest-sex-for-sale-website-shut-down/[/URL]

Just read above article, was planning on using them for a pick up from the airport.

Should I stay away from all escort websites?

S.

A dozen lady boys hang out at night near Khao San.

This trans babe was waiting for a ride.

How does Thermae even work? Do you just go in, buy a drink and start talking to whomever you think might be interested? Or is it that simple?

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2864441]How does Thermae even work? Do you just go in, buy a drink and start talking to whomever you think might be interested? Or is it that simple?[/QUOTE]Exactly. Same as SkipJack06 responded to your prior comment on September 30.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2864441]How does Thermae even work? Do you just go in, buy a drink and start talking to whomever you think might be interested? Or is it that simple?[/QUOTE]Some ladies will avoid farangs, so if you look / smile at them and they look away or don't smile move along LOL.

Some will also just charge you a higher rate. One lady told me 4500 so on to the next lady, maybe she just thinks I'm ugly LOL.

I'm going to be in the city in a week or so. Wondering if anyone has any recent experience with girls from Seeking?

Went to Nana plaza rainbow 4 and 5 better girls then other gogo bars.

Rates are on higer side for me 1000 BF and 3-4 k ST didn't bother to negotiate.

Had few drinks with one first timer and few others.

Went back to hotel called my regular for ST from TF for 2000.

Anyone interested can message me for her ID.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2863911]Note to travelers: The food sucks on Asiana. Oh wait, the food sucks on all airlines. OK, Asiana sucks worse. . . . Thermae was packed with all sorts of hot girls. Packed. . . . A note to my Chinese friends, getting drunk and horseplaying loudly is so Thailand 1980s. . . . The price at Thermae is 2500 ST. RTFF. . . . Down Soi 12 to Lolitas, flee in terror, cross over to Kasalong, throw up in my throat, walk down to Nana, dodge Africans and ladyboys and hit the GoGos. . . . There is your report. I took the time to write it, so show some respect for those of us who give you on the ground intelligence by Reading the Fucking Forum before asking questions.[/QUOTE]Cogent. Pithy. Didactic. And with a dash of wit and humor.

Glad to see our man Nyeshov back in the kingdom. Looking forward to more of his A-1 superfine reportage.

Nana Skool Girl spot has been taken by 3 Ethiopian s. I wonder if there was some kind of Power Struggle. It is a Prime Spot.

[QUOTE=Samarth;2864456]Went to Nana plaza rainbow 4 and 5 better girls then other gogo bars.

Rates are on higer side for me 1000 BF and 3-4 k ST didn't bother to negotiate.

Had few drinks with one first timer and few others.

Went back to hotel called my regular for ST from TF for 2000.

Anyone interested can message me for her ID.[/QUOTE]Better than other gogos must mean other places were bad.

I frequented 4 and 5 last night. Line up was not impressive. And I'm one of Their Biggest Fans.

[QUOTE=Gapoox;2864449]I'm going to be in the city in a week or so. Wondering if anyone has any recent experience with girls from Seeking?[/QUOTE]I like to know also. I see there are some good candidates there but the problem I have is the steep membership fee. It is close to $250 for 30 days. Assuming that fee was okay I personally don't feel comfortable putting in my credit card details for a one time payment and then come to find that they continue to charge me on an ongoing basis. I would hate to be on a phone call with a company I don't even know where they run their business out off. Net-net, I am not able to build my trust level with [URL]seeking.com[/URL]. I would love to hear others' experiences with their billing ethics and off course Bangkok candidates in there. Is the fee worth it?

[QUOTE=Lcale1982;2864447]Some ladies will avoid farangs, so if you look / smile at them and they look away or don't smile move along LOL.

Some will also just charge you a higher rate. One lady told me 4500 so on to the next lady, maybe she just thinks I'm ugly LOL.[/QUOTE]I've been inside once but that is how it felt to me. Not much interest as a Farang and all the girls are just standing around? If anything, it seems like a normal bar where you still get drinks and talk but it is totally random luck if you are going to find someone you like and actually likes you back.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2864635].If anything, it seems like a normal bar where you still get drinks and talk but it is totally random luck if you are going to find someone you like and actually likes you back.[/QUOTE]" likes you back"? In Thermae? She likes your money, you just want one who you like, accepts you, and provides good service. Thermae is definitely not a normal bar.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2864635]I've been inside once but that is how it felt to me. Not much interest as a Farang and all the girls are just standing around? If anything, it seems like a normal bar where you still get drinks and talk but it is totally random luck if you are going to find someone you like and actually likes you back.[/QUOTE]Hi,

Sorry but it's impossible not to score in Thermae. The girls are standing around because they are waiting for you to approach them, but if you do a lap or two you'll always get a few pulling at you to get your attention if you are that shy. I'm in my 50's grey balding pale European and overweight and have scratch marks on my arms from Thermae from them trying to rip my shirt off nearly! (must look like a sugar daddy LOL).

On an average night at peak time there must be 80-100 girls to take your pick from. If there isn't a couple that tickle your fancy then I give up! There are plenty of other options in Bangkok and Thermae is not everyone's cup of tea but it's still closest thing to dying and going to heaven when it's late and you are horny!

[QUOTE=MachchiBaba;2864621]I like to know also. I see there are some good candidates there but the problem I have is the steep membership fee. It is close to $250 for 30 days. Assuming that fee was okay I personally don't feel comfortable putting in my credit card details for a one time payment and then come to find that they continue to charge me on an ongoing basis. I would hate to be on a phone call with a company I don't even know where they run their business out off. Net-net, I am not able to build my trust level with [URL]seeking.com[/URL]. I would love to hear others' experiences with their billing ethics and off course Bangkok candidates in there. Is the fee worth it?[/QUOTE]Premium membership for Seeking is about $110 for 30 days. Diamond membership is $275 for 30 days, but isn't necessary unless you want the ladies to think you are a big spender.

I used them while in Jakarta last year. No issues with billing, but I found the girls to be overpriced and photos not always accurate.

[QUOTE=Studley;2864287][URL]https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-news-foreigners/2023/08/18/biggest-sex-for-sale-website-shut-down/[/URL]

Just read above article, was planning on using them for a pick up from the airport.

Should I stay away from all escort websites?

S.[/QUOTE]Strange that the banner add at the top of this page is still vissible, but their web site appears to now be defunct.

[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2864667]Premium membership for Seeking is about $110 for 30 days. Diamond membership is $275 for 30 days, but isn't necessary unless you want the ladies to think you are a big spender.

I used them while in Jakarta last year. No issues with billing, but I found the girls to be overpriced and photos not always accurate.[/QUOTE]Right, but there is no option to buy for just 30 days one-time, minimum is for 90 days one-time. Ongoing monthly subscription is a possibility but is it possible but wonder if they would hassle during cancellation.

[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2864667]Premium membership for Seeking is about $110 for 30 days. Diamond membership is $275 for 30 days, but isn't necessary unless you want the ladies to think you are a big spender.

I used them while in Jakarta last year. No issues with billing, but I found the girls to be overpriced and photos not always accurate.[/QUOTE]Fees aside, on the candidates in there. I suppose I have seen a few of the girls at Oskar Bistro and also listed in TF. To be honest most of them seem to me in the legendary side, a bit better P4 P types. That being said, some are worth it for sure.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2864170]
Emirates: Most of my incoming and outgoing is via the West Coast. As to business class, I'm on my 6th trip this year, that cuts into the budget. And I've been flying Korean, there is no Micchelin starred Kimchi.

Nana etc: I never go to Cowboy and Patpong. Nana area is great for people watching and I love that. I can sit on the steps of the Ruamchitt for hours and watch the fun. But I'm only down there if I have a reason to be downtown, its half an hour to 45 mins for me by car or transit.[/QUOTE](Emirates) Yup, same with me, spend less, go more often (and stay longer). Korean isn't bad though, it's one of my favorite reasonably priced airlines -- metal silverware!

(Nana) Same with me, Nana is great for people watching.

Now, speaking of Nana, I have a problem in that my set of favorite places is rather constrained. I sometimes get lucky and find a cute pool girl at Billboard. I can usually find someone good at Rainbow 5, though it's expensive (1000 baht barfine, 400 baht lady drinks). The bar downstairs from Mandarin (is it called Red Dragon?) is sometimes good. But I can't just keep bouncing between such a small number of bars. Does someone have some other favorites at Nana to suggest? I'd appreciate any help I can get to get me out of my rut. Thanks!

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2864216]Lately I have been buying them random drinks. Costs nothing.[/QUOTE]So, do you ask them if you can buy them a drink, or do you just send a waiter to them with a drink? (I never do well at Thermae, and upping my game seems like good advice).

[QUOTE=DerTourist;2863031]I assume that the famous spas in Ratchada havent reopened since their famous closures even before the pandemic. Are there any other places that have younger and slimmer girls? Ive been to Bangkok so many times, yet I feel like Im traveling there for the first time.[/QUOTE]I also mourn the lost spas. My current favorites are Maria (expensive, but sometimes worth it) and La Belle (way cheaper, lots of good promise). Emmanuelle is a distant third, and Poseidon may be worth a look. Get there between 6-7:30 on weekdays. Things will be sparse by 9, and lots of massage girls do other things on weekends.

[QUOTE=YetAnotherGuy;2864698]I also mourn the lost spas. My current favorites are Maria (expensive, but sometimes worth it) and La Belle (way cheaper, lots of good promise). Emmanuelle is a distant third, and Poseidon may be worth a look. Get there between 6-7:30 on weekdays. Things will be sparse by 9, and lots of massage girls do other things on weekends.[/QUOTE]Have any spas actually closed? As far as I know, Black Caviar Executive Club, Maria and La Belle are all still open with many girls.

They don't have much for social media or any line-up which is disappointing.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2864656]" likes you back"? In Thermae? She likes your money, you just want one who you like, accepts you, and provides good service. Thermae is definitely not a normal bar.[/QUOTE]That is not what I mean, I want to find someone who I can still get along with despite paying. There is no point getting involved with someone if you don't like you at all despite paying.

[QUOTE=MachchiBaba;2864621]I like to know also. I see there are some good candidates there but the problem I have is the steep membership fee. It is close to $250 for 30 days. Assuming that fee was okay I personally don't feel comfortable putting in my credit card details for a one time payment and then come to find that they continue to charge me on an ongoing basis. I would hate to be on a phone call with a company I don't even know where they run their business out off. Net-net, I am not able to build my trust level with [URL]seeking.com[/URL]. I would love to hear others' experiences with their billing ethics and off course Bangkok candidates in there. Is the fee worth it?[/QUOTE]I'm using it in the US. The billing is fine. You can cancel whenever you want. If you want to be extra careful, you can use prepaid visa as well. In terms of Bangkok talents, I'm still figuring that out myself. I've reach out to a few ladies but won't be there until next week so still couldn't confirm if the pictures match. So far it seems like the cost is on the high side of 7-15 k so I might pass on most of them but would love to hear if anyone found a gem in there.

[QUOTE=YetAnotherGuy;2864693](Emirates) Yup, same with me, spend less, go more often (and stay longer). Korean isn't bad though, it's one of my favorite reasonably priced airlines -- metal silverware!

(Nana) Same with me, Nana is great for people watching.

Now, speaking of Nana, I have a problem in that my set of favorite places is rather constrained. I sometimes get lucky and find a cute pool girl at Billboard. I can usually find someone good at Rainbow 5, though it's expensive (1000 baht barfine, 400 baht lady drinks). The bar downstairs from Mandarin (is it called Red Dragon?) is sometimes good. But I can't just keep bouncing between such a small number of bars. Does someone have some other favorites at Nana to suggest? I'd appreciate any help I can get to get me out of my rut. Thanks![/QUOTE]Lady drink cost is 200 at Rainbow 5 or even 4.

Sometime they upsell and order shots with cola which then comes out to be for 400, but yeah girl needs to earn.

[QUOTE=YetAnotherGuy;2864693](Emirates) Yup, same with me, spend less, go more often (and stay longer). Korean isn't bad though, it's one of my favorite reasonably priced airlines -- metal silverware!

(Nana) Same with me, Nana is great for people watching.

Now, speaking of Nana, I have a problem in that my set of favorite places is rather constrained. I sometimes get lucky and find a cute pool girl at Billboard. I can usually find someone good at Rainbow 5, though it's expensive (1000 baht barfine, 400 baht lady drinks). The bar downstairs from Mandarin (is it called Red Dragon?) is sometimes good. But I can't just keep bouncing between such a small number of bars. Does someone have some other favorites at Nana to suggest? I'd appreciate any help I can get to get me out of my rut. Thanks![/QUOTE]Odd I was looking at drink menu yesterday at Rainbo 4. Lady drink is 200.

Stickman like Geisha,. Whatever incarnation it is now.

Bar Girl Game Theory. I never make things up.

Last night an 80 year old barfined a Rainbow 5 spinner, small girl you can spin, I don't know.

She got dressed and Darted out the door. The guy could hardly get up out of his Stool and walk. LOL.

I can imagine it took him 25 minutes to walk to short time hotel or maybe 15 minute if he stayed at Majestic right around the corner.

I'm pretty sure his Game consisted of Paying at least 3,000.

[QUOTE=Gapoox;2864705]I'm using it in the US. The billing is fine. You can cancel whenever you want. If you want to be extra careful, you can use prepaid visa as well. In terms of Bangkok talents, I'm still figuring that out myself. I've reach out to a few ladies but won't be there until next week so still couldn't confirm if the pictures match. So far it seems like the cost is on the high side of 7-15 k so I might pass on most of them but would love to hear if anyone found a gem in there.[/QUOTE]Thanks, that was really helpful! I will get a prepaid card tomorrow, a quick run to CVS. Next week I am there too.

[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2864700]Have any spas actually closed? As far as I know, Black Caviar Executive Club, Maria and La Belle are all still open with many girls.[/QUOTE]

A couple that are mourned are the late Nataree and The Lord. (And, for some, Colonz). They've been departed for a while, though, pre-Covid.

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2864788]Odd I was looking at drink menu yesterday at Rainbo 4. Lady drink is 200.

Stickman like Geisha,. Whatever incarnation it is now.[/QUOTE]Oops, bad typing (actually, bad entry in my notes). Thanks for the suggestion!

Bars will remain open until 4 am starting New Years. " Phuket, Bangkok and Chiang Mai (we figure Pattaya will also be included in the initial list). " If you haven't booked for December yet hold off and book for January!

Wonder if this will mean gogo girls will be able to start work at 10 pm, 2 hours later.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2864846]Bars will remain open until 4 am starting New Years. " Phuket, Bangkok and Chiang Mai (we figure Pattaya will also be included in the initial list). " If you haven't booked for December yet hold off and book for January!

Wonder if this will mean gogo girls will be able to start work at 10 pm, 2 hours later.[/QUOTE]Start same time the unattractive will have 2 work 2 hours longer for same pay is what I reckon. Who knows.

I'm more concerned with more than 180 days in Thailand you will need to be TAX compliant. It starts Jan 1.

I'm ok with paying tax but no one knows the logistics. Benjamin Hart the yoo tuber with the dead squirrel on his head has no idea, he is an insider big wig at amwrican Embasdy.

They caught Al Capone on Taxes. Gnomesaying.

[QUOTE=MachchiBaba;2864681]Right, but there is no option to buy for just 30 days one-time, minimum is for 90 days one-time. Ongoing monthly subscription is a possibility but is it possible but wonder if they would hassle during cancellation.[/QUOTE]All of the premium packages auto renew if you don't cancel. I just took out the 30 day auto renew, but cancelled before it was due to renew.

[QUOTE=Samarth;2864766]Lady drink cost is 200 at Rainbow 5 or even 4.

Sometime they upsell and order shots with cola which then comes out to be for 400, but yeah girl needs to earn.[/QUOTE]The experienced monger tells the waitress One drink and holds up one finger. I'm friends with the staff at R5 so never have a problem, even though I hardly ever buy LDs.

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2864792]Bar Girl Game Theory. I never make things up.

Last night an 80 year old barfined a Rainbow 5 spinner, small girl you can spin, I don't know.

She got dressed and Darted out the door. The guy could hardly get up out of his Stool and walk. LOL.

I can imagine it took him 25 minutes to walk to short time hotel or maybe 15 minute if he stayed at Majestic right around the corner.

I'm pretty sure his Game consisted of Paying at least 3,000.[/QUOTE]Dude, don't be making fun of us old folks. I'm one of them. And I saw that geezer there, good for him. What's your game consist of playing for an R5 spinner? 3 K is the going rate, you getting them cheaper?

Last Nights Report from this Old Dude that also had a Spinner.

Totally fucked up night I must say. I started off with some Lamb grilled Egyptian style at Sheherazad on Soi Arab. Superb BTW. Left my bag there so they had to follow me out the door.

My kid on the corner with Moon Rocks was out of stock as he had some trouble with the PoPo. Just as he was tucking some prerolls into my pocket because he was glad to see me, a cop walks up to talk to him. See ya later, I take off to Nana.

See the girl of my dreams in Billboard, place is packed, dream shattered when some other dude grabs her. Tons of hotties in costume. Fabulous.

Make the rounds. Total fuglies in Twister and Bunnys, half and half everywhere else, so I head over to Suk.

Go up the street, stop at my fav dispensary, joke with the staff, buy overpriced weed (but good quality). Leave a fat bud there. Walk down to Thermae.

Sit on the steps at Thermae, go to smoke while people watching, realize I am weed short. So go back to dispensary and collect my weed, realize that the girl there has been ringing me but on my old number, get that fixed.

Head back to Thermae. Stop at ATM. Wallet is gone. Last ime used was at dispensary? Walk back there. No wallet. Walk back to Thermae.

Wallet fell out of pocket on Raumchitt while I was smoking. The door guy snagged it. Oooooorah. Saved. Tipped him the 1000 in the wallet.

In Thermae. Loads of newbies, mediocre quality for me. There was a few hotties, the one I had my eye on was an arrogant ***** so elsewhere for me. The Chinese dudes were loudly drunk. They act like see*nts, worse than the Aussies and Brits in the old days in Pattaya. At least those guys could drink, this bozos have two and are jumping around like roosters engaged in mating rituals. Dudes, the girls aren't impressed.

Tired, stoned, stressed from all the losing and forgetting, the escalator at the Hyatt is shut down so I walk back towards Soi Nana to cross the street and walk back up to my standard pick up spot.

Take a walk down 7/1. Here is a girl at wood bar who, beyond the fact that she is not an elderly disgusting fatbody, is actually young, thin and attractive enough to justify an 1000 B BJ. And a fine, albeit mechanical one it was. And no, I don't have a name. I don't do names on BJ girls.

BTW Majic Table had two that weren't vomit inducing.

African girls are everywhere, I had one latch on to me after I left Wood and I was tempted to see if I could get her on her knees in an alley, but I was too tired.

I won't be out again for a few days.

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2864900]Benjamin Hart the yoo tuber with the dead squirrel on his head has no idea, he is an insider big wig at amwrican Embasdy.

They caught Al Capone on Taxes.[/QUOTE]Thailand has been threatening to tax any person who makes any money on YouTube for years now. Thailand figures if you are using their land to make money they should get a cut of your income. Not a single thing has been done about it.

[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2864967]All of the premium packages auto renew if you don't cancel. I just took out the 30 day auto renew, but cancelled before it was due to renew.[/QUOTE]Yup, subscribed for 30 days auto-renewal, I shall cancel before the month ends too. Not seeing a reason to keep the subscription going. I sent a bunch of messages, shall see how this goes.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2864987]

Take a walk down 7/1. Here is a girl at wood bar who, beyond the fact that she is not an elderly disgusting fatbody, is actually young, thin and attractive enough to justify an 1000 B BJ. And a fine, albeit mechanical one it was. And no, I don't have a name. I don't do names on BJ girls.[/QUOTE]Saw her there last night as well. Considered it but passed because she looked rather dour in the lineup and my experience has been that service correlates moderately well with enthusiasm. Sounds like I made the right call.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2865008]Thailand has been threatening to tax any person who makes any money on YouTube for years now. Thailand figures if you are using their land to make money they should get a cut of your income. Not a single thing has been done about it.[/QUOTE]What I'm referring to covers way more than YOU tubbers. If you stay in kingdom over 180 days it applies to you. I found the link.

[URL]https://aseannow.com/topic/1306896-thai-government-to-tax-all-income-from-abroad-for-tax-residents-starting-2024/[/URL]

Be careful it might RUIN your day. It surely did mine. The problem is there is No Logistics on how any of it might work or what it is. Looks like a remittance tax but its labelelled as Income Taxx.

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2864792]Bar Girl Game Theory. I never make things up.

Last night an 80 year old barfined a Rainbow 5 spinner, small girl you can spin, I don't know.

She got dressed and Darted out the door. The guy could hardly get up out of his Stool and walk. LOL.

I can imagine it took him 25 minutes to walk to short time hotel or maybe 15 minute if he stayed at Majestic right around the corner.

I'm pretty sure his Game consisted of Paying at least 3,000.[/QUOTE]People forget that when they call out someone for being old, one day that might be them. Go the old guy! Kudos to him I say. Live like your hair is on fire till the day you die.

[QUOTE=FictionalSpace;2865073]Saw her there last night as well. Considered it but passed because she looked rather dour in the lineup and my experience has been that service correlates moderately well with enthusiasm. Sounds like I made the right call.[/QUOTE]Wrong call. It was worth it. There was also a second one there that the Mamasan offered me, she looked even better but I had already done the deed and spilled my seed.

So there were four doables on Soi Beast last night. First time in years.

I had one night in BKK as a stopover on the 29th which as it turned out was some sort of public holiday as everything in Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza was closed, and the clubs only opened at midnight.

Stayed at Hyatt Place Bangkok Sukhumvit on a recommendation from here. Maybe it was a little far away from the action but otherwise pleasant and no walk of shame as the elevators go straight to the rooms bypassing the reception.

Had a good walk around between Soi Cowboy, Soi 11 and Nana Plaza and No4 alley. Lots of ladies or ladyboys on the streets. Quite a few outside of Thermae. No one really took my fancy. Stopped in a Indian club near Nana for a beer with some guy I met outside on the street, but it wasn't going to get any better so moved on. There were a couple of pretty young girls at the Nana carpark, that was the best talent I saw all night. I would have liked to check out Mixx, but from reading on here, its apparently dead. So went to Levels instead. Levels was pretty much the same as I remember pre-covid, average crowd, music and some free-lancers hanging around. Chatted to a MILF who also confirmed that Mixx is dead and quoted a price I would consider on the high end. To be honest there weren't that many good looking options at Levels. So given the alternatives (risk going to Mixx, Suger or back to Nana to see if the young girls were still there) decided to just take the MILF from levels. It could have been a waste of money, but she was super horny and we went though all four condoms I had before she left at 5 am, so I was quite satisfied.

I maybe back in a month or so, so if anyone has recommendations for other pickup clubs, please share.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2864987]
BTW Majic Table had two that weren't vomit inducing.[/QUOTE]Hey, things are looking up! LOL.

I've lived in Thailand forever and occasionally get dragged into the lower Suk area. More often than not I have a pretty good time, because it's with friends. But I have trouble motivating myself to go alone, and when I do. . . Meh. Maybe I need better drugs?

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2864900]Start same time the unattractive will have 2 work 2 hours longer for same pay is what I reckon. Who knows.

I'm more concerned with more than 180 days in Thailand you will need to be TAX compliant. It starts Jan 1.

I'm ok with paying tax but no one knows the logistics. Benjamin Hart the yoo tuber with the dead squirrel on his head has no idea, he is an insider big wig at amwrican Embasdy.

They caught Al Capone on Taxes. Gnomesaying.[/QUOTE]Is scared about the tax issues. If you are from a country with a double tax treaty with Thailand nothing will change. If your money is in a tax haven there could be a few more challenges.

It's embarrassing you are watching you tubers for the info. Plenty of accounting firms have done live webinars.

In short life goes on as before.

[QUOTE=Cusland;2865247]Is scared about the tax issues. If you are from a country with a double tax treaty with Thailand nothing will change. If your money is in a tax haven there could be a few more challenges.

It's embarrassing you are watching you tubers for the info. Plenty of accounting firms have done live webinars.

In short life goes on as before.[/QUOTE]61 countries have a tax exempt treaty with Thailand, so I would think many are exempt from this. However the fear mongering YouTubers fail to focus on this, instead just building up their views.
Here is the link: https://www.thaienquirer.com/50744/thai-government-to-tax-all-income-from-abroad-for-tax-residents-starting-2024/
And in the article there is a link to all the countries with tax treaties with Thailand

Hi all,

I have been visiting Bangkok every 6 months since the last 2 years. Coming back again later this month. Usually stay at Night hotel (in the past it was called Dream hotel) in Sukhumvit.

Don't bash me for this, but I look only for high end / top model quality girls and don't mind paying the higher price for them. Hence, have been going primarily to Maria massage, Black Caviar massage, and The Pimp. Most of my sessions with these girls as you can imagine are 10 K+ thai bahts. Occasionally, if I am too lazy to go from Sukhumvit to Maria / Black Caviar / Pimp (these are about 20-30 minutes away), then I pick up an FL from Thermae. Though the best looking girls in Thermae are usually very arrogant.

Where else should I go for high end / top model quality girls? Are there other such gentlemans club in Bangkok similar to The Pimp quality or other premium Soapy?

[QUOTE=Cusland;2865247]Is scared about the tax issues. If you are from a country with a double tax treaty with Thailand nothing will change. If your money is in a tax haven there could be a few more challenges.

It's embarrassing you are watching you tubers for the info. Plenty of accounting firms have done live webinars.

In short life goes on as before.[/QUOTE]When you get 125 pages on ASEAN News now it's legit fear. LOL.

I'm not concerned about amount of tax I'm Deathly afraid of the paperwork. Hahaha.

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2865326]When you get 125 pages on ASEAN News now it's legit fear. LOL.

I'm not concerned about amount of tax I'm Deathly afraid of the paperwork. Hahaha.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.rd.go.th/fileadmin/download/nation/america_e.pdf[/URL]

[QUOTE=RahulMangla2009;2865287]Hi all,

I have been visiting Bangkok every 6 months since the last 2 years. Coming back again later this month. Usually stay at Night hotel (in the past it was called Dream hotel) in Sukhumvit.

Don't bash me for this, but I look only for high end / top model quality girls and don't mind paying the higher price for them. Hence, have been going primarily to Maria massage, Black Caviar massage, and The Pimp. Most of my sessions with these girls as you can imagine are 10 K+ thai bahts. Occasionally, if I am too lazy to go from Sukhumvit to Maria / Black Caviar / Pimp (these are about 20-30 minutes away), then I pick up an FL from Thermae. Though the best looking girls in Thermae are usually very arrogant.

Where else should I go for high end / top model quality girls? Are there other such gentlemans club in Bangkok similar to The Pimp quality or other premium Soapy?[/QUOTE]There are some 100/100 types on TF. Super beauties at the Oriental, Hyatt, Shangrila etc but especially the 4 Seasons bar. I mean 10,000 Baht ST.

And at the same time 1500 Baht 100/100 FL types who are sometimes the same girl.

YMMV.

[QUOTE=RahulMangla2009;2865287]Hi all,

I have been visiting Bangkok every 6 months since the last 2 years. Coming back again later this month. Usually stay at Night hotel (in the past it was called Dream hotel) in Sukhumvit.

Don't bash me for this, but I look only for high end / top model quality girls and don't mind paying the higher price for them. Hence, have been going primarily to Maria massage, Black Caviar massage, and The Pimp. Most of my sessions with these girls as you can imagine are 10 K+ thai bahts. Occasionally, if I am too lazy to go from Sukhumvit to Maria / Black Caviar / Pimp (these are about 20-30 minutes away), then I pick up an FL from Thermae. Though the best looking girls in Thermae are usually very arrogant.

Where else should I go for high end / top model quality girls? Are there other such gentlemans club in Bangkok similar to The Pimp quality or other premium Soapy?[/QUOTE]Billboard has been loaded with hotties. There were easily 70 of them last night. Cost ya the same as Pimp.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2865384]There are some 100/100 types on TF. Super beauties at the Oriental, Hyatt, Shangrila etc but especially the 4 Seasons bar. I mean 10,000 Baht ST.

And at the same time 1500 Baht 100/100 FL types who are sometimes the same girl.

YMMV.[/QUOTE]Really. How about some details on those hotels.

[QUOTE=RahulMangla2009;2865287]Hi all,

I have been visiting Bangkok every 6 months since the last 2 years. Coming back again later this month. Usually stay at Night hotel (in the past it was called Dream hotel) in Sukhumvit.

Don't bash me for this, but I look only for high end / top model quality girls and don't mind paying the higher price for them. Hence, have been going primarily to Maria massage, Black Caviar massage, and The Pimp. Most of my sessions with these girls as you can imagine are 10 K+ thai bahts. Occasionally, if I am too lazy to go from Sukhumvit to Maria / Black Caviar / Pimp (these are about 20-30 minutes away), then I pick up an FL from Thermae. Though the best looking girls in Thermae are usually very arrogant.

Where else should I go for high end / top model quality girls? Are there other such gentlemans club in Bangkok similar to The Pimp quality or other premium Soapy?[/QUOTE]Billboard is mentioned below and is a fun club with a zillion hot girls. But we found Butterflies, directly across to be a better hunting ground for younger and less silicone. Tended to go to Billboard for the scene but close the deal at Butterflies.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2865384]There are some 100/100 types on TF. Super beauties at the Oriental, Hyatt, Shangrila etc but especially the 4 Seasons bar. I mean 10,000 Baht ST.

And at the same time 1500 Baht 100/100 FL types who are sometimes the same girl.

YMMV.[/QUOTE]Really. How about some details on those hotels.

Hi Fellas,

I am planning a solo visit to Thailand for 10 days. Maybe I will visit Vietnam for a couple days too. I am celebrating something, so want to enjoy the fullest. I am thinking of mongering around 4-5 times and also want to visit some of the cool places too. I like FFM, slim elegant girls (white if possible) and happening city night life. I have a decent amount of cash to spend. Please guide me with what I can do to make the best of this trip??

[QUOTE=RahulMangla2009;2865287]
Don't bash me for this, but I look only for high end / top model quality girls and don't mind paying the higher price for them.[/QUOTE]I am a beginner in the same boat bro. I want the best of the best experience and am ready to pay for it. Thanks for sharing the places, I'll definitely visit some of these. I hope you know more places like this across Thailand / Vietnam.

[QUOTE=MachchiBaba;2865036]Yup, subscribed for 30 days auto-renewal, I shall cancel before the month ends too. Not seeing a reason to keep the subscription going. I sent a bunch of messages, shall see how this goes.[/QUOTE]Interesting find indeed in seeking today. I pinged an EE, she said she just left BKK but gave me another telegram contact. So I did contact the telegram girl, and I was given a portfolio of EE girls to choose from, these girls I was told work in Bangkok and have a modeling career. She quoted me 5 k baht for 3 hours. I thought to myself for a moment, I hit a jackpot! Like they say. If it looks too good to be true it probably is not. So upon further digging I was told that the 5 k is only meant for dinner / date, no intimacy. So I asked what about intimacy, how much would that be. I am being told that these girls don't offer intimacy, only go out for dinner dates at a restaurant, won't go to hotel room.

Anybody came across this in [URL]seeking.com[/URL]? I am going to TOFTT next week and report back. I don't mind taking a chance with 5 k baht and probably a 5 star dinner. My intention will be take her to my room. Next week!

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2865384]Super beauties at the Oriental, Hyatt, Shangrila etc but especially the 4 Seasons bar. I mean 10,000 Baht ST.
YMMV.[/QUOTE]Are you sure about this? By Oriental you mean The Bamboo Bar and by Four Seasons you mean The Social Club Bar? I would love to know more if you have first hand experiences with these. I was going to visit these bars next week to check it out. Frankly, I never got any confirmatory feedback, I only have some vague hit / miss opinions. So if you have first-hand experiences please let me know here. Much appreciated.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2865525]Billboard is mentioned below and is a fun club with a zillion hot girls. But we found Butterflies, directly across to be a better hunting ground for younger and less silicone. Tended to go to Billboard for the scene but close the deal at Butterflies.[/QUOTE]I think the girls switch back and forth depending on the day.

At my age, I want tats and silicone and sluttiness and pillow lips anyway.

I try to stop in once a week, but with this smoggy Bangkok, air, looks like the weekend is Netflix, a good book, some of this primo Nepalese hash and Foodpanda. I feel for the tourists.

[QUOTE=Pubgg;2865561]Hi Fellas,

I am planning a solo visit to Thailand for 10 days. Maybe I will visit Vietnam for a couple days too. I am celebrating something, so want to enjoy the fullest. I am thinking of mongering around 4-5 times and also want to visit some of the cool places too. I like FFM, slim elegant girls (white if possible) and happening city night life. I have a decent amount of cash to spend. Please guide me with what I can do to make the best of this trip??[/QUOTE]Definitely want to book Cristine if you can find her. She's on massage republic. She's from the Philippines, 36 DD natural, big ass, slim waist. I saw her last summer a couple of times and she was incredible. Her incall was in Sukhumvit. A generous hour MSOG for 4 k baht.

Another fun spot near Sukhumvit was Soi 24. At the end of a street was a place called Cherry. The woman saw was 2500 baht for the hour, didn't encounter any boundaries and was cool with MSOG. I went to another place on that street, but I can't remember the name. I believe it was Can Can and similar pricing there.

[QUOTE=Pubgg;2865561]Hi Fellas,

I am planning a solo visit to Thailand for 10 days. Maybe I will visit Vietnam for a couple days too. I am celebrating something, so want to enjoy the fullest. I am thinking of mongering around 4-5 times and also want to visit some of the cool places too. I like FFM, slim elegant girls (white if possible) and happening city night life. I have a decent amount of cash to spend. Please guide me with what I can do to make the best of this trip??[/QUOTE]Read through forum. That's your guide. Slim white girls are at German FKKs.

[QUOTE=MachchiBaba;2865593]Interesting find indeed in seeking today. I pinged an EE, she said she just left BKK but gave me another telegram contact. So I did contact the telegram girl, and I was given a portfolio of EE girls to choose from, these girls I was told work in Bangkok and have a modeling career. She quoted me 5 k baht for 3 hours. I thought to myself for a moment, I hit a jackpot! Like they say. If it looks too good to be true it probably is not. So upon further digging I was told that the 5 k is only meant for dinner / date, no intimacy. So I asked what about intimacy, how much would that be. I am being told that these girls don't offer intimacy, only go out for dinner dates at a restaurant, won't go to hotel room.

Anybody came across this in [URL]seeking.com[/URL]? I am going to TOFTT next week and report back. I don't mind taking a chance with 5 k baht and probably a 5 star dinner. My intention will be take her to my room. Next week![/QUOTE]I tried Seeking in Jakarta last year. Contacted about 4 girls to see what the going rate was, and 3 were happy to visit my hotel room for around 2 m Rp. The 4th was horrified when I suggested some private time together, asking what sort of a girl I thought she was. I was also contacted by a good looking indonesian girl in Oslo who said she was happy to meet up if I paid for her flight back to Jakarta (business class of course).

So from my limited experience, many of the girls on Seeking are up for a bit of slap and tickle, but some are only interested in a long term sugar daddy relationship.

[QUOTE=MachchiBaba;2865593]Interesting find indeed in seeking today. I pinged an EE, she said she just left BKK but gave me another telegram contact. So I did contact the telegram girl, and I was given a portfolio of EE girls to choose from, these girls I was told work in Bangkok and have a modeling career. She quoted me 5 k baht for 3 hours. I thought to myself for a moment, I hit a jackpot! Like they say. If it looks too good to be true it probably is not. So upon further digging I was told that the 5 k is only meant for dinner / date, no intimacy. So I asked what about intimacy, how much would that be. I am being told that these girls don't offer intimacy, only go out for dinner dates at a restaurant, won't go to hotel room.

Anybody came across this in [URL]seeking.com[/URL]? I am going to TOFTT next week and report back. I don't mind taking a chance with 5 k baht and probably a 5 star dinner. My intention will be take her to my room. Next week![/QUOTE]Not particularly related to Bangkok, but be aware that Seeking reads messages that you send / receive on their app and site, and are very happy to swing the ban hammer if there is any indication that you are looking for p4 p. At least in the US, I'm not sure if that's what they do in other countries, but the whole site being about sugar babies / daddies and 'dating' is kind of scammy when trying to use it in the US.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2865604]I think the girls switch back and forth depending on the day.

At my age, I want tats and silicone and sluttiness and pillow lips anyway.

I try to stop in once a week, but with this smoggy Bangkok, air, looks like the weekend is Netflix, a good book, some of this primo Nepalese hash and Foodpanda. I feel for the tourists.[/QUOTE]Hey Nye,

You always bring up your age, just out of curiosity, if you don't mind divulging, how old are you?

[QUOTE=Tvataham274;2865748]Not particularly related to Bangkok, but be aware that Seeking reads messages that you send / receive on their app and site, and are very happy to swing the ban hammer if there is any indication that you are looking for p4 p. At least in the US, I'm not sure if that's what they do in other countries, but the whole site being about sugar babies / daddies and 'dating' is kind of scammy when trying to use it in the US.[/QUOTE]Makes sense for the US, money exchange for sexual activity is illegal in the US so I guess they are trying to adhere to the local law. It actually makes me feel better to know this, seems like Seeking may actually have some ethics contrary to my initial impression.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2865663]Read through forum. That's your guide. Slim white girls are at German FKKs.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply. I certainly can't (and don't want to) go to Europe at this time of the year due to its freezing weather. I hope your next reply will add value to all of us.

[QUOTE=MentalMijit;2865639]Definitely want to book Cristine if you can find her. She's on massage republic. She's from the Philippines, 36 DD natural, big ass, slim waist. I saw her last summer a couple of times and she was incredible. Her incall was in Sukhumvit. A generous hour MSOG for 4 k baht.

Another fun spot near Sukhumvit was Soi 24. At the end of a street was a place called Cherry. The woman saw was 2500 baht for the hour, didn't encounter any boundaries and was cool with MSOG. I went to another place on that street, but I can't remember the name. I believe it was Can Can and similar pricing there.[/QUOTE]Thank you bro. I would definitely try to reach them out.

[QUOTE=MentalMijit;2865639]Definitely want to book Cristine if you can find her. She's on massage republic. She's from the Philippines, 36 DD natural, big ass, slim waist. I saw her last summer a couple of times and she was incredible. Her incall was in Sukhumvit. A generous hour MSOG for 4 k baht.

Another fun spot near Sukhumvit was Soi 24. At the end of a street was a place called Cherry. The woman saw was 2500 baht for the hour, didn't encounter any boundaries and was cool with MSOG. I went to another place on that street, but I can't remember the name. I believe it was Can Can and similar pricing there.[/QUOTE]Thanks,

Do you happen to have a link to reach Cristine on MR?

[QUOTE=Tvataham274;2865748]Not particularly related to Bangkok, but be aware that Seeking reads messages that you send / receive on their app and site, and are very happy to swing the ban hammer if there is any indication that you are looking for p4 p. At least in the US, I'm not sure if that's what they do in other countries, but the whole site being about sugar babies / daddies and 'dating' is kind of scammy when trying to use it in the US.[/QUOTE]Not sure I'the use Seeking I Bangkok. So many options for P4 P there. But in the US it rules. You are right so not talk P4 P on the site. That is not scammy that is good business. They will be put out of business at the first sign of condoned P4 P in the US where it's illegal. So they do the right thing by banning P4 P talk.

That said it's clearly for P4 P but in an indirect way. Take the girl to Whatsapp. Talk about "private time" and "allowance" and avoid any sex for money discussion. Take your date to dinner and let it flow. Banged more than 30 girls in US on Seeking. Just use it properly and put in the work!

PS Machachibaba please don’t pay for a platonic date. This just perpetuates the illusion that such things exist and guys will do it. Booo. Don’t do it!!!!

[QUOTE=MentalMijit;2865639]Definitely want to book Cristine if you can find her. She's on massage republic. She's from the Philippines, 36 DD natural, big ass, slim waist. I saw her last summer a couple of times and she was incredible. Her incall was in Sukhumvit. A generous hour MSOG for 4 k baht.

Another fun spot near Sukhumvit was Soi 24. At the end of a street was a place called Cherry. The woman saw was 2500 baht for the hour, didn't encounter any boundaries and was cool with MSOG. I went to another place on that street, but I can't remember the name. I believe it was Can Can and similar pricing there.[/QUOTE]Great brief report. I like Cherry, girls are 5-8's but service is good.

YMMV.

[QUOTE=Tvataham274;2865748]Not particularly related to Bangkok, but be aware that Seeking reads messages that you send / receive on their app and site, and are very happy to swing the ban hammer if there is any indication that you are looking for p4 p. At least in the US, I'm not sure if that's what they do in other countries, but the whole site being about sugar babies / daddies and 'dating' is kind of scammy when trying to use it in the US.[/QUOTE]It is the same in Australia.

Leave your conversations on Seeking at a high level, non financial, non arrangement, non P4 P.

Move those discussions offline to another approach (Kik, whatsapp, etc).

#96. Lollipop s very HOT. White skin, smallish Tits. What a Face.

Nana Plaza. She at the wrong Agogo. Or maybe she at the right one.

I was walking on Sukhumvit near soi 4 towards Nana Plaza. The city cleared the sidewalks of all street stalls, which used to take over walking space, selling food and junks all night. Sukhumvit looked nice, clean, orderly, civilized, completely opposite HCMC or Saigon's tourist district packed with aggressive motorbikes traffic, legions of rude, filthy, aggressive street vendors, gum, lotteries sellers, beggars, rotten garbage, foul sewage, dog shit, feces, urine all over sidewalks.

Near the corner into Soi 4 I came across a tall, slim, young girl around 20 in a dirty white dress sprawling on the sidewalk, singing into a microphone with a small AMP amidst pedestrians and traffic noise and dust. Both her eye sockets were sunken, eyeballs definitely removed.

I was shocked at the dire circumstances, indignity and miseries that girl must be going through everyday just to survive. Had no idea what happened to her, guessing she once was a hot bar girl, a jealous wife may have hired gangsters to poke her eyes out in revenge. If I were living in Bangkok or Thailand I would try to arrange a place for her to live in peace, not having to beg on the street. Nothing I could do but to give her some money into her empty tin can and hope someone would help her escape her miseries.

May be the bros know enough about Bangkok to help her out.

[QUOTE=Pubgg;2865814]Thanks,

Do you happen to have a link to reach Cristine on MR?[/QUOTE]What a waste of time. Searching for a girl that was there last year based on an anonymous tip.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2865822]Not sure I'the use Seeking I Bangkok. So many options for P4 P there. But in the US it rules. You are right so not talk P4 P on the site. That is not scammy that is good business. They will be put out of business at the first sign of condoned P4 P in the US where it's illegal. So they do the right thing by banning P4 P talk.

That said it's clearly for P4 P but in an indirect way. Take the girl to Whatsapp. Talk about "private time" and "allowance" and avoid any sex for money discussion. Take your date to dinner and let it flow. Banged more than 30 girls in US on Seeking. Just use it properly and put in the work!

PS Machachibaba please dont pay for a platonic date. This just perpetuates the illusion that such things exist and guys will do it. Booo. Dont do it!!!![/QUOTE]Yea, the thing was, they killed my account despite me NOT mentioning p4 p, just asking girls for their numbers. This was almost 3 years ago though, before the lockdown even.

But then again, the girls in my city have GPS. They want $600+ for a simple session to meet them with no activities.

I'm not spending $100 on the site, then $500 or more on a cow who thinks she's worth a PSE value. I'd rather abstain for a while and put that money on a ticket for Thailand. And that's exactly what I've been doing this past year.

[QUOTE=Pubgg;2865811]Thanks for the reply. I certainly can't (and don't want to) go to Europe at this time of the year due to its freezing weather. I hope your next reply will add value to all of us.[/QUOTE]Sure here is the reply that adds value: show us all some courtesy by reading the forum before asking general questions.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2865769]Hey Nye,

You always bring up your age, just out of curiosity, if you don't mind divulging, how old are you?[/QUOTE]Almost 70. And not very good looking.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2865822]PS Machachibaba please dont pay for a platonic date. This just perpetuates the illusion that such things exist and guys will do it. Booo. Dont do it!!!![/QUOTE]Nothing wrong with paying for a platonic date, provided the rate reflects the reduced level of service on offer.

Pattaya has Kink. Does Bangkok have anything similar.

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2865944]#96. Lollipop s very HOT. White skin, smallish Tits. What a Face.

Nana Plaza. She at the wrong Agogo. Or maybe she at the right one.[/QUOTE]Went in later to check if she was a Sizzler. She was Busy so couldn't confirmed.

Mama was working her Hard though. She was with a guy, you know the Drill. Mama took her away to another interested Fellow who, you know the Drill. She won't last long at that Rate. Imagine being so Hot you never get a Break. Just a human object of lust.

By order of Reference. This one Hotter than Playpen Baitoey. Pretty Sure. At least bigger.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2865974]I was walking on Sukhumvit near soi 4 towards Nana Plaza. The city cleared the sidewalks of all street stalls, which used to take over walking space, selling food and junks all night. Sukhumvit looked nice, clean, orderly, civilized, completely opposite HCMC or Saigon's tourist district packed with aggressive motorbikes traffic, legions of rude, filthy, aggressive street vendors, gum, lotteries sellers, beggars, rotten garbage, foul sewage, dog shit, feces, urine all over sidewalks.

Near the corner into Soi 4 I came across a tall, slim, young girl around 20 in a dirty white dress sprawling on the sidewalk, singing into a microphone with a small AMP amidst pedestrians and traffic noise and dust. Both her eye sockets were sunken, eyeballs definitely removed.

I was shocked at the dire circumstances, indignity and miseries that girl must be going through everyday just to survive. Had no idea what happened to her, guessing she once was a hot bar girl, a jealous wife may have hired gangsters to poke her eyes out in revenge. If I were living in Bangkok or Thailand I would try to arrange a place for her to live in peace, not having to beg on the street. Nothing I could do but to give her some money into her empty tin can and hope someone would help her escape her miseries.

May be the bros know enough about Bangkok to help her out.[/QUOTE]I've never seen a girl like that on Suk. The number of beggars has decreased although the number of homeless seems to have increased.

I don't know the timeframe that you're reporting on, but 4 days ago, lower Suk still had a ton of vendors, although a bunch were cleared away when the condo bridge was finished.

[QUOTE=TherminMermin;2866032]Pattaya has Kink. Does Bangkok have anything similar.[/QUOTE]By Kink do you mean the agogo. More specifically, the second floor? If so, Crazy House is likely your best bet.

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2866073]Went in later to check if she was a Sizzler. She was Busy so couldn't confirmed.

Mama was working her Hard though. She was with a guy, you know the Drill. Mama took her away to another interested Fellow who, you know the Drill. She won't last long at that Rate. Imagine being so Hot you never get a Break. Just a human object of lust.

By order of Reference. This one Hotter than Playpen Baitoey. Pretty Sure. At least bigger.[/QUOTE]All right dudes this is a perfect opportunity to evaluate the difference between men in hotness evaluation. Is this girl as hot as he says she is? Stay tuned to this forum for further details!

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2865974]I was walking on Sukhumvit near soi 4 towards Nana Plaza. The city cleared the sidewalks of all street stalls, which used to take over walking space, selling food and junks all night. Sukhumvit looked nice, clean, orderly, civilized, completely opposite HCMC or Saigon's tourist district packed with aggressive motorbikes traffic, legions of rude, filthy, aggressive street vendors, gum, lotteries sellers, beggars, rotten garbage, foul sewage, dog shit, feces, urine all over sidewalks.

Near the corner into Soi 4 I came across a tall, slim, young girl around 20 in a dirty white dress sprawling on the sidewalk, singing into a microphone with a small AMP amidst pedestrians and traffic noise and dust. Both her eye sockets were sunken, eyeballs definitely removed.

I was shocked at the dire circumstances, indignity and miseries that girl must be going through everyday just to survive. Had no idea what happened to her, guessing she once was a hot bar girl, a jealous wife may have hired gangsters to poke her eyes out in revenge. If I were living in Bangkok or Thailand I would try to arrange a place for her to live in peace, not having to beg on the street. Nothing I could do but to give her some money into her empty tin can and hope someone would help her escape her miseries.

May be the bros know enough about Bangkok to help her out.[/QUOTE]All street stuff controlled by Mafia. Even Lottery Ticket sellers.

Stay Away.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2866091]I don't know the timeframe that you're reporting on, but 4 days ago, lower Suk still had a ton of vendors, although a bunch were cleared away when the condo bridge was finished.[/QUOTE]Yes, with a lot more Africans, both male and female but the African dudes seem to made a big come back over there in the last months.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2866093]By Kink do you mean the agogo. More specifically, the second floor? If so, Crazy House is likely your best bet.[/QUOTE]Yes that's what I meant. On the way to Crazy House now. Thanks for the tip. I'll report back shortly.

[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2865708]I tried Seeking in Jakarta last year. Contacted about 4 girls to see what the going rate was, and 3 were happy to visit my hotel room for around 2 m Rp. The 4th was horrified when I suggested some private time together, asking what sort of a girl I thought she was. I was also contacted by a good looking indonesian girl in Oslo who said she was happy to meet up if I paid for her flight back to Jakarta (business class of course).

So from my limited experience, many of the girls on Seeking are up for a bit of slap and tickle, but some are only interested in a long term sugar daddy relationship.[/QUOTE]To continue on this topic. I did spend some time on Seeking and the rate I seem to get for 2-3 hours is 12 k baht on an average. The girls I talked to are 27-30 yrs old, they look like the ones you would find in a top nightclub, attractive ones, write good English etc. I would grade them 6-7/10, it seems a bit steep to me for 12 k and especially for Bangkok. Overnight would be around 20 k. Will see if I go into that rabbit hole next week. I have some contacts, will see if I decide to burn 12 k for a fuck in bkk. May be I will end up doing after few drinks. Who knows.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2866225]Yes, with a lot more Africans, both male and female but the African dudes seem to made a big come back over there in the last months.[/QUOTE]They are sooooo annoying. But, generally they leave me alone since I've already told a bunch of them off and I'm recognizable.

[QUOTE=MachchiBaba;2866296]To continue on this topic. I did spend some time on Seeking and the rate I seem to get for 2-3 hours is 12 k baht on an average. The girls I talked to are 27-30 yrs old, they look like the ones you would find in a top nightclub, attractive ones, write good English etc. I would grade them 6-7/10, it seems a bit steep to me for 12 k and especially for Bangkok. Overnight would be around 20 k. Will see if I go into that rabbit hole next week. I have some contacts, will see if I decide to burn 12 k for a fuck in bkk. May be I will end up doing after few drinks. Who knows.[/QUOTE]If they on their Period you can get the 12,k one for 500 baht. Hahaha.

This is a Joke for our Dear Commander.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2865974]I was walking on Sukhumvit near soi 4 towards Nana Plaza. The city cleared the sidewalks of all street stalls, which used to take over walking space, selling food and junks all night. Sukhumvit looked nice, clean, orderly, civilized, completely opposite HCMC or Saigon's tourist district packed with aggressive motorbikes traffic, legions of rude, filthy, aggressive street vendors, gum, lotteries sellers, beggars, rotten garbage, foul sewage, dog shit, feces, urine all over sidewalks.

Near the corner into Soi 4 I came across a tall, slim, young girl around 20 in a dirty white dress sprawling on the sidewalk, singing into a microphone with a small AMP amidst pedestrians and traffic noise and dust. Both her eye sockets were sunken, eyeballs definitely removed.

I was shocked at the dire circumstances, indignity and miseries that girl must be going through everyday just to survive. Had no idea what happened to her, guessing she once was a hot bar girl, a jealous wife may have hired gangsters to poke her eyes out in revenge. If I were living in Bangkok or Thailand I would try to arrange a place for her to live in peace, not having to beg on the street. Nothing I could do but to give her some money into her empty tin can and hope someone would help her escape her miseries.

May be the bros know enough about Bangkok to help her out.[/QUOTE]There is a girl on TF with one eye only. I am told she does well. Same lady?

[QUOTE=MachchiBaba;2866296]Overnight would be around 20 k. [/QUOTE]For 20 k I would have thought you could have had half of Nana Plaza.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2865985]Almost 70. And not very good looking.[/QUOTE]I don't think the majority of us are good looking, that's usually the first step to becoming a punter because you're not good looking enough to get women LOL.

I did not see anyone like her in T F.

Both eye sockets are sunken.

She's really blind.

If someone is using this unfortunate girl, it's very sad.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2866619]I did not see anyone like her in T F.

Both eye sockets are sunken.

She's really blind.[/QUOTE]That's fine, and not saying she doesn't exist, but I haven't seen anyone like that and I'm down there a lot. In fact I'll be down there tonight on a GoGo girl evaluation mission, unless I stone out on This fabulous hashish I found in my refrigerator.

Speaking of that, for you newbies who want to smoke, may I suggest you Google Happy Cannabis Shop in Bangkok Pho. It's out of the way but he delivers and his menu is always available on Instagram. Please don't pay the inflated prices you find down in the Nana area It's just stupid. If you want to get ripped off, at least buy the weed in a place where it is super quality, there is a little shop right near the Nana BTS stairs where the weed is high priced but fabulous. You're far better off trying to get a hold of happy cannabis though.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2866564]I don't think the majority of us are good looking, that's usually the first step to becoming a punter because you're not good looking enough to get women LOL.[/QUOTE]I am. Every time I walk past a bar in Thailand women yell out "hey handsome man". I know they all cannot be blind. 555.

[QUOTE=AggieDad1;2866659]I am. Every time I walk past a bar in Thailand women yell out "hey handsome man". I know they all cannot be blind. 555.[/QUOTE]Per my SIN friend. Said he was talking to a Nana girl about her income.

She has a Ma and Child to support. How many Barfine s the last 4 months- she said 1.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2866564]I don't think the majority of us are good looking, that's usually the first step to becoming a punter because you're not good looking enough to get women LOL.[/QUOTE]When I was 60 I had a 19 year old GF. I always got plenty, ene looking like an Orc, but it's better to pay them to leave.

[QUOTE=AggieDad1;2866659]I am. Every time I walk past a bar in Thailand women yell out "hey handsome man". I know they all cannot be blind. 555.[/QUOTE]You certainly have a good sense of humor. Last time I was there with a girl, she kept telling me I looked so handsome too. I wonder no one sees me that way the moment I step out of Bangkok.

I would like to meet with monger (s) who know already the scene in Bangkok. I have experience in Latin America and Europe but still not in Thailand. Would like to got to some clubs and trz it with freelancers. We can also meet before 24th at night, but 24th to 27th I have time 24/7.

See you!

I apologize to the community. I wasn't able to find number 96 at lollipops. There were some sleazy ones there but nothing doable. There was nothing noteworthy at twister. Rainbow 5 was horrible. There were two over at billboard I would have done but the one I really wanted had a face on her that screamed I am a ***** while she danced. If I'm going to waste money on lady drinks and bar finds, at least look like the air around you isn't impregnated with the smell of cow manure.

The talent in Butterflies was disgusting.

I didn't go up and down soi nana so have no report on there. The schoolgirl was hanging around the stumble inn and she was looking rough. The Africans were a particularly annoying and were at the point where one of the Thai Street vendors was getting aggravated.

The talent on Soi 7/1 caused me to flee screaming back to Suk.

Thermae was hopping, but was filled with annoying Chinese hicks. I was rejected by a really hot young one, which means I very well may have to do the old count out like 20,000 baht in front of her and then walk away trick. One of my favorite things to do.

There was a lot of newbies in Thermae but by the time I had gotten there at like 10 pm I already had 7 mi on foot in starting in Pratunam. By the way, here is a shameless plug for Polo fried Chicken if you are over there by wireless road near the park. Total yum for years and years.

[QUOTE=StarSheriff;2866838]I would like to meet with monger (s) who know already the scene in Bangkok. I have experience in Latin America and Europe but still not in Thailand. Would like to got to some clubs and trz it with freelancers. We can also meet before 24th at night, but 24th to 27th I have time 24/7.

See you![/QUOTE]I'll be there on the exact same dates. I've been to BKK quite a number of times, and know some WGs and massage places to have some action. I'll be residing around Soi23.

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2865944]#96. Lollipop s very HOT. White skin, smallish Tits. What a Face.

Nana Plaza. She at the wrong Agogo. Or maybe she at the right one.[/QUOTE]And very eye catching from behind, I must say.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2866971]II was rejected by a really hot young one, which means I very well may have to do the old count out like 20,000 baht in front of her and then walk away trick. One of my favorite things to do.[/QUOTE]I've done this at Thermae too with a girl who seemed disinterested in me. I stood beside her and ordered a drink. When the drink came I pulled out a thick wad of 1000's. Seemed like I became much more attractive to her after.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2866971]I apologize to the community. I wasn't able to find number 96 at lollipops. There were some sleazy ones there but nothing doable. There was nothing noteworthy at twister. Rainbow 5 was horrible. There were two over at billboard I would have done but the one I really wanted had a face on her that screamed I am a ***** while she danced. If I'm going to waste money on lady drinks and bar finds, at least look like the air around you isn't impregnated with the smell of cow manure.

The talent in Butterflies was disgusting.

I didn't go up and down soi nana so have no report on there. The schoolgirl was hanging around the stumble inn and she was looking rough. The Africans were a particularly annoying and were at the point where one of the Thai Street vendors was getting aggravated.

The talent on Soi 7/1 caused me to flee screaming back to Suk.

Thermae was hopping, but was filled with annoying Chinese hicks. I was rejected by a really hot young one, which means I very well may have to do the old count out like 20,000 baht in front of her and then walk away trick. One of my favorite things to do.

There was a lot of newbies in Thermae but by the time I had gotten there at like 10 pm I already had 7 mi on foot in starting in Pratunam. By the way, here is a shameless plug for Polo fried Chicken if you are over there by wireless road near the park. Total yum for years and years.[/QUOTE]I didn't want to cause alarm about Rainbow 5 as I thought it might be one of those things. Last Fri., sat, sun was just Horrible like. No girls.

While Rainbow 4 was Humming as Usual.

I'm starting to think Mamasan Issues. Off the top of my Bald head I recall seeing some new ones Recently.

[QUOTE=YetAnotherGuy;2867038]And very eye catching from behind, I must say.[/QUOTE]Appreciate the feedback. As you can tell I m kind of picky about hot Girls. They have to be you know HOT. Hahaha.

Our tourist agoggo s have lots of attractive doable girls but not of the HOT Quality.

I still say the Top ones are reserved for the Hi So Thais.

[QUOTE=YetAnotherGuy;2867038]And very eye catching from behind, I must say.[/QUOTE]You got rejected by a h at at ker. Pulling out a few thousand makes you think you are cool? How embarrassing.

[B]Touchdown[/B]

Arrived Swampy, no visa, will use visa on arrival. At the junction of Immigration to the right, Visa on Arrival straight, I ask, with a US passport, which I should use. Immigration. Join the queue there, moves pretty fast. Simple: passport and boarding pass. Immigration asks how many days. I reply, that's noted with the visa stamp, and I'm in. Think the old days.

[B]BOTG:[/B]

Flight delays, late arrival, but things eventually start to move.

First stop: walk down to my favorite bank's ATM. The ATM's are in a vestibule outside the bank entrance, with a security guard present. Easy to tell if there's anyone around, and with the guard and the vestibule, close to zero chance of a snatch and dash with your cash. But... No security guard, ATM's dark. Damn. Luckily enough, have a local sim card so check Google maps for another ATM. Same bank has one a block away. A bit exposed, but not directly on the street, and then the wallet is topped up. (Seems the closure was a one time thing; has been open since).

Second stop: BTS. Want to top up the Rabbit card (and verify it's still valid). It is, and now, Rabbit card topped up.

Third stop: MRT. With the BTS card still valid from last year, figure the MRT card is still valid. Know I have a high balance on it (didn't MRT travel as much as I expected last year), so swiped the card, and it's off to Si Lom.

Fourth stop: Patpong 2 Foodland. Get a lime juice at the restaurant as it's hot. Then check to see if they still have my favorite snack. NOT unexpectedly, they don't. Even ask, and the clerk is nice enough to check; No. Oh, a dying taste.

Fifth stop: Exit Foodland stage right. As expected, SOL (RIP) is history. Another in a long line of [I]institutions[/I] dead: Eden club, Annies in the Rajah hotel, SOL. But SOL status is only to satisfy my curiosity. I continue walking towards Surwong Road. At the last up staircase to the right, I climb the stairs. I can see the Meet the World sign, but can't tell if the door is open. As I get closer, the door is open. As my shadow darkens the threshold, a voice inside calls, "Come in, come in. ".

In I go. Knowing the situation, BEFORE I sit down, I ask "Singha, still 100 baht?" "OK, for you special price, yes." Lucky for me, the "good" manager / owner is there, heavy set older lady. She's straight, no games. I verify the BJ price (800) and before I can ask, she apologizes and says lady drinks are 150 (which was what I paid last year). I couldn't quite understand if a lady drink was mandatory before oral [I]relief[/I] but moot point for me, given the [I]benefits[/I] a lady drink entails (the lady [I]changing[/I] into her [I]battle dress[/I]).

I sit, a cold beer is brought, and 2 [I]moths[/I] flutter around my [I]flickering candle[/I]. The boss remembers me from last year, and when I enquire, business is better than last year, not great, but improving. That's a relief. A third [I]moth[/I] has aroused herself from sleep and starts to flutter. I briefly consider a [I]rugby scrum[/I] by ringing the bell, but it's been a long flight, and so decide against it for now. I ask the boss about last year's favorite, but... Gone in the wind. Not quite unexpected, but certainly a disappointment. Of the 3 [I]moths[/I], in the dim light, one appears a bit younger than the others, where younger is [U]relative[/U]. I pick her and the other 2 flit away. I order lady drinks, one for my choice, one for the boss, one for the scamming granny alternate cashier (damn I do detest her), and one for the dearly departed (tradition). My [I]moth[/I] increases her fluttering and attention to my person, then, with lady drink in hand, drops her dress and bra. While the rack sizes of each moth was indeterminate, I am pleasantly surprised she has a decent one. Nothing major, B cup, with some nice nipples, sufficient for entertainment purposes, and I'm NOT there for Russian.

The hatches are battened down (door locked, so if the door is closed, knock). I suggest we move to a couch, and as I drop [I]trow[/I], she removes her panties, kneels between my legs, and demonstrates her expertise. What could be better: dark bar, fan blowing directly on you, drinking a cold one, getting a BBBJ, with Foreigner's [I]I Want to Know What Love Is[/I] on the sound system. All seems right, certainly not in the world, but definitely in that room. Eventually she strikes oil and seems a bit surprised, having to cup her hand below her mouth to catch the overflow, not having a tissue at hand. Now totally drained, she cleans up and we both dress.

Unfortunately, the boss has left and I'm left to deal with granny. Ask for the bill, and true to form, here it comes. 1700, which I should check for correctness. Thanks to my 3rd grade teacher, I can do multiplication in my head, and thanks to my 2nd grade teacher, addition. I POINTEDLY point out that the BJ is 800, not 1000. Granny apologizes, saying she didn't know the prices. REALLY. You were 3 feet away when the boss stated out loud what every price was. OLD DOG, SAME trick. Pay the corrected 1500, 100 tip to the [I]moth[/I] and, taking the easy path, leave 25 for granny in the tray. But one of these days... words will be exchanged...

[B]SOMETIMES LUCK IS WITH YOU[/B]

One final stop to put the final nail in a coffin. Several months previously, I'd gone to send my quarterly pings to my favs, and Miss Top Fav's contact was not to be seen. Hmmm. Did I hide it? Nope. Damn, could I have, instead of hiding, deleted? FMTT. Go back and check each chat contact, line by line (pun intended). There it is, but it's EMPTY; she has left the chat. Hope is that it's a phone problem, but statistics say she's retired, having gotten a better offer. Not really surprising. A WG losing her phone is a real disaster, her contacts being literally gold.

Off I go, and matching my mood, it starts to pour rain. Have to take shelter at a bus stop to let the shower pass. It's a bit of a hike, and with the rain, then drizzle, along with the heat, I'm [I]damp[/I], as in, if I walked in front of a fan, or into an air conditioned room, I'd FREEZE. Trudging down the soi, the shop's sign comes into view. At least it's still there so I can make my inquiries of her colleagues. 4 girls sitting outside, eating fruit from a common plate. Just as I get ready to speak, one breaks out her trademark smile, squeals, and runs to hug me. The skies clear, the sun shines bright, with a sunbeam illuminating both of us hugging (at least in my brain). Recognition dawns in my brain and I break out the big smile. The hug is nice, but, like I said, I AM damp, so don't linger. I ask what happened, she says, "phone catastrophe". She immediately pulls out her phone, brings up her QR code, and we're connected again. We're both grinning and laughing like fools.

Then reality raises it's ugly head. I've just been to the MTW firing range, and while the equipment is in working order, reloading takes a long time (don't get old). I explain the situation, how while I was hoping to see her, I really wasn't expecting to, and don't have the time today to [I]linger[/I]. We set an alternate date, and that's day one.

NOTE: having their Line contacts makes reconnecting easy. 2 others reconnected and appointments made.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2866333]They are sooooo annoying. But, generally they leave me alone since I've already told a bunch of them off and I'm recognizable.[/QUOTE]When they ask me where I'm from, I tell them Rhodesia, the country you stole.

[QUOTE=StarSheriff;2866838]I would like to meet with monger (s) who know already the scene in Bangkok. I have experience in Latin America and Europe but still not in Thailand. Would like to got to some clubs and trz it with freelancers. We can also meet before 24th at night, but 24th to 27th I have time 24/7.

See you![/QUOTE]Better to [I]hunt[/I] on your own. Spend some time reading, take some notes, check the ROD's, and it's easy-peasy. Adding running mates complicates things exponentially. You KNOW what you like so that's what YOU look for. Guided tours are for marks.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2866971]
Thermae was hopping, but was filled with annoying Chinese hicks. I was rejected by a really hot young one, which means I very well may have to do the old count out like 20,000 baht in front of her and then walk away trick. One of my favorite things to do.
[/QUOTE]Worked like a charm in Crazy Horse for me just before Covid lockdown. Pulled out a few from a thick wad of notes to pay for my beer which set the voice telegraph alight and there was a PYT sitting next to me in no time. BTW, anyone know how Crazy Horse is doing? I'm going to be in Bangkok next month and would like to know if the old haunts are still worth visiting.

[QUOTE=Grebe925;2867473]Worked like a charm in Crazy Horse for me just before Covid lockdown. Pulled out a few from a thick wad of notes to pay for my beer which set the voice telegraph alight and there was a PYT sitting next to me in no time. BTW, anyone know how Crazy Horse is doing? I'm going to be in Bangkok next month and would like to know if the old haunts are still worth visiting.[/QUOTE]You must be so cool. A few notes about in your pocket but they don't want you otherwise.

Joking apart you must be awful. Two things to do. Smarten your clothes or general appearance.

OK, so without getting into a pis**ng match, I did not find 96 to be attractive at all.

Thats why reports about how beautiful a girl is and how great a fuckl she is are worthless because its all YMMV.

I'm glad I spied her before I sat down to have a drink.

Billboard had a fab slutty looking lineup. There are now 3 I have my eye on. You have to get there early if you want a seat in a cozy corner.

Rainbow 5 was mediocre as was Twister. I dint even have a drink at Twister.

Schoolgirl at Stumble Inn looked dirty.

There was a blonde ladyboy that was so realistic that it was like "whoa, great job dude".

Thermae was packed withnew faces, 90% of which were, to be fair, girl next door. It was also packed with Chinese hicks. The girls arent happy. There was nothing doable to me.

Africans are on every corner and dark spot near stairs. Soi 7/1 was back to its nightmare self, although packed with fuglies.

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2867438][B]Touchdown[/B]

Arrived Swampy, no visa, will use visa on arrival......[/QUOTE]Awesome post, 11 Bravo! I can feel Bangkok in your writing. I am back in two weeks and I can't wait.

"I can see the Meet the World sign"
Is this the name of the place? I have never been. I thought I knew all of the BjBars. Blow and go. lol

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2866564]I don't think the majority of us are good looking, that's usually the first step to becoming a punter because you're not good looking enough to get women LOL.[/QUOTE]I have a hotwife who knows and approves of what I do in BKK. I have lost a step or two but I was doing this when I was younger and still had my looks. Swinging ladies in the USA were way too complicated. LOL We only know two from 20 years of swinging that we still like to have sex with and both of those are Gangbang Queens like my wife.

I do The mongering because I don't want any attachments. I don't do the hobby in the USA unless it is Asian women from Asia. All of my monger fun is in Asia. I treat the women with respect, even the bad experiences. I want to have sex and then go touring and then later when I am horny again, have some more sex with a different woman. I almost never bring women back to my hotel unless I really know them and they have some specialties I enjoy. There are a few of those. They have all met my wife and know I am not going anywhere. It is just fun sex. I like getting my providers off as well if they want that which my specialists do. I am good at following instructions. LOL Before the special ladies met my wife, I think they thought I must be lying when I showed them pics of my wife surrounded by cock because I am older and have lost some of my sex appeal and she is sexy as fuck. LOL One of my usual hoteliers scolded me about dating such a young woman. I told her that my wife was older than her. My wife drank free that week after she saw her ID. LOL.

Always treat the providers with respect.

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2867438][B]Touchdown[/B]


First stop: walk down to my favorite bank's ATM. The ATM's are in a vestibule outside the bank entrance, with a security guard present. Easy to tell if there's anyone around, and with the guard and the vestibule, close to zero chance of a snatch and dash with your cash. But... No security guard, ATM's dark. Damn. Luckily enough, have a local sim card so check Google maps for another ATM. Same bank has one a block away. A bit exposed, but not directly on the street, and then the wallet is topped up. (Seems the closure was a one time thing; has been open since).

[/QUOTE]Dude, that it's a little excessive don't you think, it's Bangkok, not beirut. What would you do if you ran out of money as you were going down the little alley to the short time hotels off soy nana, where the 7-Eleven is and the Krungsri Bank ATM is? The ones where you're in full view of the lady boys, are you going to need a bodyguard there?

I don't think I've ever even seen a security guard at any ATM I have ever used in Thailand at night.

For you newbies to thailand, you really don't need to take such security steps to take a few bucks on the ATM.

[QUOTE=Cusland;2867383]You got rejected by a h at at ker. Pulling out a few thousand makes you think you are cool? How embarrassing.[/QUOTE]No, I am cool just by existing. Pulling out the few thousand is amusing to me. How embarrassing that you feel the need to anonymously Flame.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2867491]OK, so without getting into a pis**ng match, I did not find 96 to be attractive at all.

Thats why reports about how beautiful a girl is and how great a fuckl she is are worthless because its all YMMV.

I'm glad I spied her before I sat down to have a drink.

Billboard had a fab slutty looking lineup. There are now 3 I have my eye on. You have to get there early if you want a seat in a cozy corner.

Rainbow 5 was mediocre as was Twister. I dint even have a drink at Twister.

Schoolgirl at Stumble Inn looked dirty.

There was a blonde ladyboy that was so realistic that it was like "whoa, great job dude".

Thermae was packed withnew faces, 90% of which were, to be fair, girl next door. It was also packed with Chinese hicks. The girls arent happy. There was nothing doable to me.

Africans are on every corner and dark spot near stairs. Soi 7/1 was back to its nightmare self, although packed with fuglies.[/QUOTE]Your thoughts on attractive ness of Playpen Baitoey?

Context. Superstar of rainbow 4 and 5 is less Pretty than number 96. I will check out 96 again next week.

Sharks Pattaya has 5 girls who would be ultimate Superstar s at Nana Plaza. Just freaking Attractive.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2867551]Dude, that it's a little excessive don't you think, it's Bangkok, not beirut. What would you do if you ran out of money as you were going down the little alley to the short time hotels off soy nana, where the 7-Eleven is and the Krungsri Bank ATM is? The ones where you're in full view of the lady boys, are you going to need a bodyguard there?

I don't think I've ever even seen a security guard at any ATM I have ever used in Thailand at night.

For you newbies to thailand, you really don't need to take such security steps to take a few bucks on the ATM.[/QUOTE]I just make use of all the advantages available, and given that this bank is on my route from abode to BTS, it's CONVENIENT, the security a plus and thrown in for free. (Believe Stick had a letter from a reader who detailed a snatch attempt recently.) And, given a bit of intelligence and planning, I don't run out of money and need to make a late night withdrawal. Granted, that does come down to making a few large withdrawals rather then frequent small withdrawals. Even when the ATM fee is reimbursed, I do my best to not take advantage of Schwab. But to each his own.

And yes, I do take the bank's free toaster when opening a new account even though I already have a toaster...

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2867491]OK, so without getting into a pis**ng match, I did not find 96 to be attractive at all.

Thats why reports about how beautiful a girl is and how great a fuckl she is are worthless because its all YMMV.

I'm glad I spied her before I sat down to have a drink.

Billboard had a fab slutty looking lineup. There are now 3 I have my eye on. You have to get there early if you want a seat in a cozy corner.

Rainbow 5 was mediocre as was Twister. I dint even have a drink at Twister.

Schoolgirl at Stumble Inn looked dirty.

There was a blonde ladyboy that was so realistic that it was like "whoa, great job dude".

Thermae was packed withnew faces, 90% of which were, to be fair, girl next door. It was also packed with Chinese hicks. The girls arent happy. There was nothing doable to me.

Africans are on every corner and dark spot near stairs. Soi 7/1 was back to its nightmare self, although packed with fuglies.[/QUOTE]No worries. Please feel free to Express your opinions to the fullest. Like the Commandeer.

I have posted what I like. Lighter skin, natural tittie's, nice face. This girl was just beyond the normal Agogo girl.

[QUOTE=AmPervert;2867534]Awesome post, 11 Bravo! I can feel Bangkok in your writing. I am back in two weeks and I can't wait.

"I can see the Meet the World sign"
Is this the name of the place? I have never been. I thought I knew all of the BjBars. Blow and go. lol[/QUOTE]MTW is on Patpong Soi 2, upstairs.

There are a couple of ways to get there. Both start out walking away from Silom towards Surawong. Walk past Foodland (on your right) and past SOL (RIP). Skip the stairs going up in front of SOL, and stay "outside" on the street, not "inside" under the arcade.

Easy way for my lapses of memory: I can never remember which staircase up, so I just walk to the last staircase, the one before the Pink bar. Go up the staircase, turn RIGHT.

Slightly more direct way: the staircase AFTER the SOL staircase. Go up and turn LEFT. You'll be SLIGHTLY closer to MTW, but it's a minimal difference. I usually take the above just because it's a no brainer.

In the photos: leftmost is the "last stairs-turn right at top", then "Middle stairs-turn left at top", finally "Meet the World sign" (top of the photo, white print on black). MTW is the white bar.

Here's a link to last year's visit (down near the bottom), describing the [I]rugby scrum[/I].

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=2760241&viewfull=1#post2760241[/URL]

Note to Newbies: You don't need security to use an ATM in Bangkok.

Intelligence and planning: Both go out the window when the first shot is fired, right? 11 Bravos know that, don't they?

Personally, I think that it is extremely dumb to carry large sums of baht around. I'd rather hit an ATM 3 times. Now granted, I have a Thai Bank account that makes it easier and cheaper from me than for casual visitors.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2867715]Note to Newbies: You don't need security to use an ATM in Bangkok.

Intelligence and planning: Both go out the window when the first shot is fired, right? 11 Bravos know that, don't they?

Personally, I think that it is extremely dumb to carry large sums of baht around. I'd rather hit an ATM 3 times. Now granted, I have a Thai Bank account that makes it easier and cheaper from me than for casual visitors.[/QUOTE]Agreed. I thought that post about using an ATM with a security guard was strange.

My MO, I bring about a $100 worth of Thai Baht from my home country, order it from the bank so I have THB when I touch down in BKK.

Then on the first or second day I go to one of the many malls, which have banks and I get cash from there as I need it throughout my trip.

I have a Chares Schwab card which reimburses all ATM fees so I can money as needed instead of carrying a ton of cash on me or in the safe at my hotel.

Travelling 101 gents.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2867559] Pulling out the few thousand is amusing to me. [/QUOTE]Is it wise to flash the cash in a third world country?

Never know who may be watching.

[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2867827]Is it wise to flash the cash in a third world country?

Never know who may be watching.[/QUOTE]Depends on your experience and level of comfort.

[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2867827]Is it wise to flash the cash in a third world country?

Never know who may be watching.[/QUOTE]No. Ask any Indian who wears their Wealth around their Neck. Sorry my fellow friends from that Sketchy country we are from.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2867715]Intelligence and planning: Both go out the window when the first shot is fired, right? 11 Bravos know that, don't they?[/QUOTE]OLD 11B's know that with the PROPER planning, they'll still be standing after the last shot is fired. As they say, "If a bullet has your name on it, nothing you can do. It's the ones marked 'to whom it may concern' you have to worry about." Intelligence and planning serve to reduce the latter's risk. Running around willy-nilly is NOT a successful strategy.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2867715]Personally, I think that it is extremely dumb to carry large sums of baht around. I'd rather hit an ATM 3 times. Now granted, I have a Thai Bank account that makes it easier and cheaper from me than for casual visitors.[/QUOTE]Who carries large sums around? The ammo dump is at the base. You carry enough [I]ammo[/I] for the expected battle plus some extra for contingencies. Carrying more just makes you a [I]fat[/I] appealing target.

Myself, I'm just a binary sort: 1's and 0's, yes or no. If one says no, there's always another. My ego is not that fragile that it'll be crushed by a "no" and I'd need to feel vindictive enough to flash some cash. I get my [i]amusements[/i] in other ways. I'll leave it to the girl I do pull to spread the word, and they do talk. If you're more than a one-of visitor, the girls will know who the players are. My experience anyway.

Now I will say, I DO find it amusing when a [i]new[/i] girl asks me how long I've been in (fill-in-the-blank). "Oh, I just arrived last night, first time..." and watch her eyes spin like a slot machine thinking rube. And as we talk, I'll drop in certain [i]mentions[/i] and native language words that a first timer wouldn't know, and see how long it takes for her to catch on... Not really lies, I would have recently arrived and it is my first time TONIGHT...

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2867887]OLD 11B's know that with the PROPER planning, they'll still be standing after the last shot is fired. As they say, "If a bullet has your name on it, nothing you can do. It's the ones marked 'to whom it may concern' you have to worry about." Intelligence and planning serve to reduce the latter's risk. Running around willy-nilly is NOT a successful strategy.

Who carries large sums around? The ammo dump is at the base. You carry enough [I]ammo[/I] for the expected battle plus some extra for contingencies. Carrying more just makes you a [I]fat[/I] appealing target.

Myself, I'm just a binary sort: 1's and 0's, yes or no. If one says no, there's always another. My ego is not that fragile that it'll be crushed by a "no" and I'd need to feel vindictive enough to flash some cash. I get my [i]amusements[/i] in other ways. I'll leave it to the girl I do pull to spread the word, and they do talk. If you're more than a one-of visitor, the girls will know who the players are. My experience anyway.[/QUOTE]I have my amusement, you have yours. And as I have been going to Thermae for 25 years and am well known by staff and regular girls, they know I'm a "player". I've banged three therma girls since I arrived back two weeks ago, they all know who I am.

Quite frankly, as to the one that rejected me, because she was Asian oriented, if I really would have wanted her, I would have had the staff talk to her. She wasn't that good looking for me to pull those strings.

Personally, my plan is always be ready for the ultimate: two gogo girl threesome, top level girl at a Petchaburi Parlour or a sudden trip to a gentlemans club, or that "got to have her no matter the cost". My number on that could be 25 k. This, multiple trips to ATM if I don't like to carry that much in that in my pocket, especially when I'm smoking tons of weed. Now of course, for folks who only go to places like Meet the World or Wood Bar and only need 1000 baht, you can get away with one trip to the ATM.

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[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2867803]Agreed. I thought that post about using an ATM with a security guard was strange.

My MO, I bring about a $100 worth of Thai Baht from my home country, order it from the bank so I have THB when I touch down in BKK.

Then on the first or second day I go to one of the many malls, which have banks and I get cash from there as I need it throughout my trip.

I have a Chares Schwab card which reimburses all ATM fees so I can money as needed instead of carrying a ton of cash on me or in the safe at my hotel.

Travelling 101 gents.[/QUOTE]Not only that (Schwab) I have an account at ABA Bank in Cambodia, an account at Krungsri and a Wise account and card. My Wise card is linked to Grab so I never have to fork out cash for rides.

How's that for "planning"? Saves me the trouble of looking for the armed guards at the ATMs. This is Thailand, not Columbia or the Dominican Republic. Or even the USA. It's so nice to be able to go out at 4:00 am And not have to pack a 1911.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2867559]No, I am cool just by existing. Pulling out the few thousand is amusing to me. How embarrassing that you feel the need to anonymously Flame.[/QUOTE]In what way is it amusing? You get turned down so to "get your own back" you try to belittle or demean the with a few hundred dollars?

Wow. Big man.

Be careful out there guys!

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[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2867892]I have my amusement, you have yours. And as I have been going to Thermae for 25 years and am well known by staff and regular girls, they know I'm a "player". I've banged three therma girls since I arrived back two weeks ago, they all know who I am.

Quite frankly, as to the one that rejected me, because she was Asian oriented, if I really would have wanted her, I would have had the staff talk to her. She wasn't that good looking for me to pull those strings.

Personally, my plan is always be ready for the ultimate: two gogo girl threesome, top level girl at a Petchaburi Parlour or a sudden trip to a gentlemans club, or that "got to have her no matter the cost". My number on that could be 25 k. This, multiple trips to ATM if I don't like to carry that much in that in my pocket, especially when I'm smoking tons of weed. Now of course, for folks who only go to places like Meet the World or Wood Bar and only need 1000 baht, you can get away with one trip to the ATM.

Are you and SubCmdr related?[/QUOTE]I like how the Commander entices the girl with 100 baht tip for off the charts Service.

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[QUOTE=11Bravo;2867711]MTW is on Patpong Soi 2, upstairs....Here's a link to last year's visit (down near the bottom), describing the [I]rugby scrum[/I].

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=2760241&viewfull=1#post2760241[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for taking the time [b]11 Bravo[/b]. I will be checking it out when I land in 2 weeks.

Have you ever tried Tokyo's bj bars? Sleazy rocking time. I would stop in Tokyo again just to get a bj in that sleazy environment. Plus Tokyo and Japan are interesting outside of the sex scene. People are more relaxed in SE Asia though.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2804037&viewfull=1#post2804037[/URL]

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2867892]I have my amusement, you have yours.[/QUOTE]On that we agree.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2867892]Personally, my plan is always be ready for the ultimate: two gogo girl threesome, top level girl at a Petchaburi Parlour or a sudden trip to a gentlemans club, or that "got to have her no matter the cost". My number on that could be 25 k. This, multiple trips to ATM if I don't like to carry that much in that in my pocket, especially when I'm smoking tons of weed.[/QUOTE]Given that I never pay in advance, RTB to access the [I]ammo dump[/I] really isn't a problem as that is the ultimate destination anyway; direct flight, non-stop.

You have your system that works for you, as I have mine.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2867892]And as I have been going to Thermae for 25 years...[/QUOTE]Myself, coming up on 30 years of BKK [I]entertainment[/I], I know where I can get MY kicks. Personally, I much preferred the previous incarnation of Thermae, back when it was the several rooms, low ceilings, death trap if ever a fire broke out, but a TRUE Star Wars bar around 2 AM. One of those places where you tell your running buddy "If I ever look like that, kill me."

And while SOL/MTW might not be for everyone, when your best friend says he wants to buy you a beer and a bj, that IS a memory that lasts for decades, fun to reminisce, even when they're gone.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2867892]Are you and SubCmdr related?[/QUOTE]I have NO idea who that is.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2867905]Saves me the trouble of looking for the armed guards at the ATMs. [/QUOTE]I don't look for armed guards at ATM's (he's not, but he IS kind enough to open the door for me and say hello, and it is a job for him). Just so happens that's what IS there at the bank most convenient for me.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2867803]Agreed. I thought that post about using an ATM with a security guard was strange.

My MO, I bring about a $100 worth of Thai Baht from my home country, order it from the bank so I have THB when I touch down in BKK.

Then on the first or second day I go to one of the many malls, which have banks and I get cash from there as I need it throughout my trip.

I have a Chares Schwab card which reimburses all ATM fees so I can money as needed instead of carrying a ton of cash on me or in the safe at my hotel.

Travelling 101 gents.[/QUOTE]Just a convenience. I appreciate having the vestibule that shields me from passing traffic, rather than an exposed ATM on the street with a lot of passing pedestrian traffic (ala the Chase ATMs at Suk / Asok). But I do appreciate the smile, the Hello, and his opening the door for me. Comes with the territory, just like the Robinson's doorman. (is he still there, the one on the bridge to the BTS...?)

These days, most everywhere has ATM's. But you get out in the sticks, and having to find one can be problematic. Less so now than 10 years ago, but still. And if there's a communications disruption, you can be SOL even if you do find one.

China, having trouble with an ATM, seems it was not happy with my 4 digit PIN when it expected 6 digits. I was so busy trying to figure it out, I didn't realize that those little digits counting down was the expiration timer, and when they reached zero, it ate my card. Of course, just before closing on 30 September which is the night before the MAJOR week long public holiday. And I had "hard to get" train tickets for later that night... (I did have a backup card to another account, but that had atm fees). Luck was with me, along with a KIND bank manager who, on her own initiative, contrary to SOP, got the key, opened the ATM, and on showing my passport, returned my ATM card. Lesson learned, and whenever I see a countdown timer, I eject my card way before it reaches zero. Traveling 101.

[QUOTE=Cusland;2867911]In what way is it amusing? You get turned down so to "get your own back" you try to belittle or demean the with a few hundred dollars?

Wow. Big man.[/QUOTE]Yes, I am quite big, as the Thai girls say to me. You're use of the term belittle or demean shows your essential misogyny, not mine. Or perhaps a bit of envy since you might be unable to pocket 20,000 baht at a time? But whatever, feel free to put me on your ignore list, tourist.

[QUOTE=AmPervert;2867931]Thanks for taking the time [b]11 Bravo[/b]. I will be checking it out when I land in 2 weeks.

Have you ever tried Tokyo's bj bars? Sleazy rocking time. I would stop in Tokyo again just to get a bj in that sleazy environment. Plus Tokyo and Japan are interesting outside of the sex scene. People are more relaxed in SE Asia though.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?977-Tokyo&p=2804037&viewfull=1#post2804037[/URL][/QUOTE]One of the few Asian countries I've never been, just Narita airport.

At MTW, make sure you clarify the prices beforehand, and watch out for Granny - she'll write down HER prices on the bill, then ask you to verify. Easily correctable. But the heavyset manager is straight-up.

Last year, thanks to [B]TheNileRiva[/B], got a very nice legit massage at Yama Herbal Massage. As I posted, I was offered [I]extras[/I], though I wasn't interested, just a good massage. This year, returned for another legit massage, though, this time, wasn't offered any [I]extras[/I]. [B]FunMan13[/B] mentioned he was never offered any [I]extras[/I] even though he'd visited many times. I think I now see the reason. Last year, I opted for an oil massage, where I completely stripped, showered, returned to the table for the oil massage. This year I went Thai massage, so no shower and given the traditional set of pj's.

However, my point is that if you want a good legit massage, Soi 55, not far from the Thong Lor BTS station, I'd say this is a good place. I think it was 400 baht for 90 minutes. I just took the next in the queue masseuse, late 20's maybe. It reminded me of that massage shop in the Ruamchitt Hotel that's above Thermae, up a couple of floors, long gone now. Yama's rooms not quite as nice but certainly enough for the task at hand.

Sunday had booked a salt tapping at Sakura Akasuri on Soi 55, Thong Lor, just before soi 6, not as far as Foodland. For me, the dental clinic in the previous block and Sakura Akasuri both leave me feeling squeaky clean, though for very different reasons. Option 8 on the menu I saw, 1380 baht, 100 minutes. I have the contact info of a masseuse I've known for a number of years so booked through her. Glad I had a booking. 14:45, in the next 15 minutes, 4 others (Asian, my guess Korean. They all look the same to me) entered, waiting to pick from the dwindling masseuse supply. I don't really understand the chemistry, but something about being rubbed with rough salt, then having it tapped (light pounding) in, works wonders. That's on the wet side. On the dry, there's a massage while you're under some HOT towels roasting, but, once again, no apple for the [I]stuffed pig's[/I] mouth. [I]Extras[/I] are available which provide a nice finish, but [I]extras[/I] are not the raison d'tre for me, it's the salt. Extensively reported on last year, so I won't repeat. ALWAYS a MANDATORY stop for me. Here's a link if interested:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1421-Bangkok-Massage-Parlors-Except-TULIP-and-ANNIES!&p=2765270&viewfull=1#post2765270[/URL]


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Can anyone recommend a replacement for Tony Leather, used to be on Sukhumvit across from Robinsons, then moved to Surawong, near Patpong. Need a few SIMPLE wallets - based on the old fiber envelopes American Express traveler checks came in (which certainly dates ME). Only one I found was in Terminal 21, with the corresponding Terminal 21 pricing...

Wanted to ask whether Khun Rose is a reliable site for Russian escorts?

[QUOTE=Dynamov;2868048]Wanted to ask whether Khun Rose is a reliable site for Russian escorts?[/QUOTE]I would say no site is reliable for Russian escorts.

[QUOTE=Dynamov;2868048]Wanted to ask whether Khun Rose is a reliable site for Russian escorts?[/QUOTE]I can tell you one of the so called escort photos is Gabbie Carter, a porn star. I hardly doubt she would only charge 21 k thai baht for a day.

[URL]https://khunrose-escort.com/portfolio_page/chery/[/URL]

https://www.boobieblog.com/gabbie-carter-in-transparent-and-purple-lingerie/

Hi dudes.

I anticipate the question: "why do you want to come here and meet a Russian working girl".

Simple: it is not because I eat Thai everyday during my holidays that I exclude to eat italien one day.

So my Inquiry: despite a long and deep check of the forum. Unless I'm stupid. I did find spots in Pataya but not in BKK for Russian girls.

Any tips for me? I'm planning a trip in Jan, I feel comfortable with all your posts with Thai girls, but I sometime like Caucasian young blond girls.

Where should I go to find out my jewel (freelancer) ?

Thank you.

[QUOTE=DukesFord;2868156]I can tell you one of the so called escort photos is Gabbie Carter, a porn star. I hardly doubt she would only charge 21 k thai baht for a day.

[URL]https://khunrose-escort.com/portfolio_page/chery/[/URL]

https://www.boobieblog.com/gabbie-carter-in-transparent-and-purple-lingerie/[/QUOTE]Not my realm of Expertise. Hahaha.

So how much would she charge.

I don't think she is Attractive at all.

Come on Chat. Chime in.

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2868033]Last year, thanks to [B]TheNileRiva[/B], got a very nice legit massage at Yama Herbal Massage. As I posted, I was offered [I]extras[/I], though I wasn't interested, just a good massage. This year, returned for another legit massage, though, this time, wasn't offered any [I]extras[/I]. [B]FunMan13[/B] mentioned he was never offered any [I]extras[/I] even though he'd visited many times. I think I now see the reason. Last year, I opted for an oil massage, where I completely stripped, showered, returned to the table for the oil massage. This year I went Thai massage, so no shower and given the traditional set of pj's.

However, my point is that if you want a good legit massage, Soi 55, not far from the Thong Lor BTS station, I'd say this is a good place. I think it was 400 baht for 90 minutes. I just took the next in the queue masseuse, late 20's maybe. It reminded me of that massage shop in the Ruamchitt Hotel that's above Thermae, up a couple of floors, long gone now. Yama's rooms not quite as nice but certainly enough for the task at hand.[/QUOTE]People want description of provider. The words Chubby comes up a lot, or the phrase not a stunner,. You know the Drill.

You give NO guidance at all. Maybe that Depressed guy would like your Guidance.

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2868175]People want description of provider. The words Chubby comes up a lot, or the phrase not a stunner,. You know the Drill.

You give NO guidance at all. Maybe that Depressed guy would like your Guidance.[/QUOTE]Wow, reading comprehension certainly a challenge for some. The [B]guidance[/B] provided was for a shop that provides legit massages, so the looks of the masseuse rather unimportant, the skill set is. I'm [b]NOT[/b] a form over function type of guy. Both times I've been there, they have been excellent, and since I'm there to relax and enjoy the massage, chubby / thin / short / tall seem rather immaterial, especially as she's keeping her clothes on. 50% of the time I'm face down, 40% I'm face up, eyes closed, relaxing, enjoying the calmness and quiet from the city outside, and 10% she's behind me, bending me like a pretzel. Like I said, I just took the next one in the queue. I've seen younger ones, older ones, thin ones, solid ones. Others can walk into the shop and pick one THEY find attractive. Einstein being right, time, best, hottest ARE relative to the observer; there are no absolutes.

Rhetorical question: how many incarnations have you had here? Many handles, same form. Ha, ha, ha.

[QUOTE=Dynamov;2868048]Wanted to ask whether Khun Rose is a reliable site for Russian escorts?[/QUOTE]Looks like pics probably fake according to this post.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2454-Bangkok-Escort-Agencies&p=2224894&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2224894.

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2867438][B]Touchdown[/B]

Arrived Swampy, no visa, will use visa on arrival. At the junction of Immigration to the right, Visa on Arrival straight, I ask, with a US passport, which I should use. Immigration. Join the queue there, moves pretty fast. Simple: passport and boarding pass. Immigration asks how many days. I reply, that's noted with the visa stamp, and I'm in. Think the old days.

[B]BOTG:[/B]

Flight delays, late arrival, but things eventually start to move.

First stop: walk down to my favorite bank's ATM. The ATM's are in a vestibule outside the bank entrance, with a security guard present. Easy to tell if there's anyone around, and with the guard and the vestibule, close to zero chance of a snatch and dash with your cash. But... No security guard, ATM's dark. Damn. Luckily enough, have a local sim card so check Google maps for another ATM. Same bank has one a block away. A bit exposed, but not directly on the street, and then the wallet is topped up. (Seems the closure was a one time thing; has been open since).

Second stop: BTS. Want to top up the Rabbit card (and verify it's still valid). It is, and now, Rabbit card topped up.

Third stop: MRT. With the BTS card still valid from last year, figure the MRT card is still valid. Know I have a high balance on it (didn't MRT travel as much as I expected last year), so swiped the card, and it's off to Si Lom.

Fourth stop: Patpong 2 Foodland. Get a lime juice at the restaurant as it's hot. Then check to see if they still have my favorite snack. NOT unexpectedly, they don't. Even ask, and the clerk is nice enough to check; No. Oh, a dying taste.

Fifth stop: Exit Foodland stage right. As expected, SOL (RIP) is history. Another in a long line of [I]institutions[/I] dead: Eden club, Annies in the Rajah hotel, SOL. But SOL status is only to satisfy my curiosity. I continue walking towards Surwong Road. At the last up staircase to the right, I climb the stairs. I can see the Meet the World sign, but can't tell if the door is open. As I get closer, the door is open. As my shadow darkens the threshold, a voice inside calls, "Come in, come in. ".

In I go. Knowing the situation, BEFORE I sit down, I ask "Singha, still 100 baht?" "OK, for you special price, yes." Lucky for me, the "good" manager / owner is there, heavy set older lady. She's straight, no games. I verify the BJ price (800) and before I can ask, she apologizes and says lady drinks are 150 (which was what I paid last year). I couldn't quite understand if a lady drink was mandatory before oral [I]relief[/I] but moot point for me, given the [I]benefits[/I] a lady drink entails (the lady [I]changing[/I] into her [I]battle dress[/I]).

I sit, a cold beer is brought, and 2 [I]moths[/I] flutter around my [I]flickering candle[/I]. The boss remembers me from last year, and when I enquire, business is better than last year, not great, but improving. That's a relief. A third [I]moth[/I] has aroused herself from sleep and starts to flutter. I briefly consider a [I]rugby scrum[/I] by ringing the bell, but it's been a long flight, and so decide against it for now. I ask the boss about last year's favorite, but... Gone in the wind. Not quite unexpected, but certainly a disappointment. Of the 3 [I]moths[/I], in the dim light, one appears a bit younger than the others, where younger is [U]relative[/U]. I pick her and the other 2 flit away. I order lady drinks, one for my choice, one for the boss, one for the scamming granny alternate cashier (damn I do detest her), and one for the dearly departed (tradition). My [I]moth[/I] increases her fluttering and attention to my person, then, with lady drink in hand, drops her dress and bra. While the rack sizes of each moth was indeterminate, I am pleasantly surprised she has a decent one. Nothing major, B cup, with some nice nipples, sufficient for entertainment purposes, and I'm NOT there for Russian.

The hatches are battened down (door locked, so if the door is closed, knock). I suggest we move to a couch, and as I drop [I]trow[/I], she removes her panties, kneels between my legs, and demonstrates her expertise. What could be better: dark bar, fan blowing directly on you, drinking a cold one, getting a BBBJ, with Foreigner's [I]I Want to Know What Love Is[/I] on the sound system. All seems right, certainly not in the world, but definitely in that room. Eventually she strikes oil and seems a bit surprised, having to cup her hand below her mouth to catch the overflow, not having a tissue at hand. Now totally drained, she cleans up and we both dress.

Unfortunately, the boss has left and I'm left to deal with granny. Ask for the bill, and true to form, here it comes. 1700, which I should check for correctness. Thanks to my 3rd grade teacher, I can do multiplication in my head, and thanks to my 2nd grade teacher, addition. I POINTEDLY point out that the BJ is 800, not 1000. Granny apologizes, saying she didn't know the prices. REALLY. You were 3 feet away when the boss stated out loud what every price was. OLD DOG, SAME trick. Pay the corrected 1500, 100 tip to the [I]moth[/I] and, taking the easy path, leave 25 for granny in the tray. But one of these days... words will be exchanged...

[B]SOMETIMES LUCK IS WITH YOU[/B]

One final stop to put the final nail in a coffin. Several months previously, I'd gone to send my quarterly pings to my favs, and Miss Top Fav's contact was not to be seen. Hmmm. Did I hide it? Nope. Damn, could I have, instead of hiding, deleted? FMTT. Go back and check each chat contact, line by line (pun intended). There it is, but it's EMPTY; she has left the chat. Hope is that it's a phone problem, but statistics say she's retired, having gotten a better offer. Not really surprising. A WG losing her phone is a real disaster, her contacts being literally gold.

Off I go, and matching my mood, it starts to pour rain. Have to take shelter at a bus stop to let the shower pass. It's a bit of a hike, and with the rain, then drizzle, along with the heat, I'm [I]damp[/I], as in, if I walked in front of a fan, or into an air conditioned room, I'd FREEZE. Trudging down the soi, the shop's sign comes into view. At least it's still there so I can make my inquiries of her colleagues. 4 girls sitting outside, eating fruit from a common plate. Just as I get ready to speak, one breaks out her trademark smile, squeals, and runs to hug me. The skies clear, the sun shines bright, with a sunbeam illuminating both of us hugging (at least in my brain). Recognition dawns in my brain and I break out the big smile. The hug is nice, but, like I said, I AM damp, so don't linger. I ask what happened, she says, "phone catastrophe". She immediately pulls out her phone, brings up her QR code, and we're connected again. We're both grinning and laughing like fools.

Then reality raises it's ugly head. I've just been to the MTW firing range, and while the equipment is in working order, reloading takes a long time (don't get old). I explain the situation, how while I was hoping to see her, I really wasn't expecting to, and don't have the time today to [I]linger[/I]. We set an alternate date, and that's day one.

NOTE: having their Line contacts makes reconnecting easy. 2 others reconnected and appointments made.[/QUOTE]11 Bravo, glad to know you're back in Thailand! Only if you've got the time, but here's hoping you'll partake in the girls of [URL]https://smilebangkak.com/[/URL] and [URL]https://butterflymassage.x.2nt.com/english-page/index-e.html[/URL].

I'm curious to know how they are, especially with Smile Bangkok, since most of the girls there were from Happy BKK. With butterfly, I just want to know, cause the photos of some of them are just so damn good, granted, it's all photoshop, but once in a while, they do look just that good in real life. If butterfly is a place full of hotties, all the time, then it's a must go for me, whenever I get to go back. God, I miss Bangkok, what I wouldn't give to be back there. You're living the best life out there dude, have fun 11 B! How is Patpong looking these days, and what's replaced the Black Pagoda? Looking forward to your reports.

This guy is just nothing short of amazing, god tier camera work at this point with these videos.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1lq__R918A[/URL]

Look at around 4:38, in this place, no one has a clue he's filming? And the rest of the video when he gets all up close and personal to all the hotties? It's like he's invisible or something. It's amazing!
How is he hiding the lens? But even with a gopro, in low light conditions, it's not going to work, it'll be too blurry. This dude is operating on a whole other level with the hiding of his camera, keeping things in focus and stable especially at night, and the quality of the video too. I must learn more from this sensei. I stand by my theory that it's a fanny pack across his chest. And it might even be an iphone and he's attaching it to the inside of the fanny pack, and cut a tiny hole for the lens to shoot out of, it's easier to hide a cell phone lens than say a gopro or action camera type set up. And an Iphone or the latest samsung phone is gonna be way better than a gopro. Especially with image stabilization. He's living the dream! He's living the dream fellas! Please, please sex gods, send me back to Thailand.

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2868238]This guy is just nothing short of amazing, god tier camera work at this point with these videos.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1lq__R918A[/URL]

Look at around 4:38, in this place, no one has a clue he's filming? And the rest of the video when he gets all up close and personal to all the hotties? It's like he's invisible or something. It's amazing!
How is he hiding the lens? But even with a gopro, in low light conditions, it's not going to work, it'll be too blurry. This dude is operating on a whole other level with the hiding of his camera, keeping things in focus and stable especially at night, and the quality of the video too. I must learn more from this sensei. I stand by my theory that it's a fanny pack across his chest. And it might even be an iphone and he's attaching it to the inside of the fanny pack, and cut a tiny hole for the lens to shoot out of, it's easier to hide a cell phone lens than say a gopro or action camera type set up. And an Iphone or the latest samsung phone is gonna be way better than a gopro. Especially with image stabilization. He's living the dream! He's living the dream fellas! Please, please sex gods, send me back to Thailand.[/QUOTE]Maybe Penis Cam. Cam does bounce at Times.

I m not so sure he is Living a Dream. Kind of disgusting to Stealthily film people. Most here don't like it- I'm with them.

If you going to film do it openly so we can't hide or something.

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2868197]Wow, reading comprehension certainly a challenge for some. The [B]guidance[/B] provided was for a shop that provides legit massages, so the looks of the masseuse rather unimportant, the skill set is. I'm [b]NOT[/b] a form over function type of guy. Both times I've been there, they have been excellent, and since I'm there to relax and enjoy the massage, chubby / thin / short / tall seem rather immaterial, especially as she's keeping her clothes on. 50% of the time I'm face down, 40% I'm face up, eyes closed, relaxing, enjoying the calmness and quiet from the city outside, and 10% she's behind me, bending me like a pretzel. Like I said, I just took the next one in the queue. I've seen younger ones, older ones, thin ones, solid ones. Others can walk into the shop and pick one THEY find attractive. Einstein being right, time, best, hottest ARE relative to the observer; there are no absolutes.

Rhetorical question: how many incarnations have you had here? Many handles, same form. Ha, ha, ha.[/QUOTE]Even your biggest fan Mr York wants reports on Hot Girls.

Can any brother update on poseidon, whether its operational, if yes, how is the quality of soapy and the cost. Thie website is not giving updated details.

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2868037]Sunday had booked a salt tapping at Sakura Akasuri on Soi 55, Thong Lor, just before soi 6, not as far as Foodland.[/QUOTE]I tried that place back in May a day after arriving in Thailand, based on your last year's report.

I didn't take the salt tapping option though.

I arrived there around 2 pm, the guy showed the pic of the only available girl at that time. He said you can come back in one hour if you want another girl, I didn't really care as I was there mostly for a non sexual stuff. I chose their option number four at 1180 baht (skin scrub + steam towel). The girl was OK, a chubby early 30 year's old girl from Essan with a cute face.

To make it short, I liked the scrubbing part (the steam towel part was crap), the girl was very eager to get her big tip so we settled for a BJ I think for 1. 5 K (I'd rather skip that option but I guess she would be very disappointed to do all that work and miss her big tip in the end).

The place is interresting but I think I wouldn't go back again as their prices are quite expensive in my opinion.

Does anyone know of a good place to get a skin scrub without happy ending?

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2868238] It's amazing! How is he hiding the lens? [/QUOTE]In Japan (and I assume Korea) they sell shirt button and belt cameras. There are shops that specialize in these items in Akihabara and Ikebukuro. You can buy cheap ones for 200-300 USD but if you want really high quality ones (ie 4k or 8k) you're looking at 1000++ USD(?). GoPro has the new mini 11 camera but they're still significantly larger than the other possibilities I mention. GoPro's also have very poor aperture meaning they completely suck in low light. DJI Mini Action 4 could be what he's using. They are the cameras made for drones. Just checked DJI site and they're 759 USD.

From the movement when he's walking I'm guessing this is a belt camera or a mini camera attached to his belt or a front pocket. A mini DJI would still be noticeable if you were looking at the guy's crotch but would be undetectable if you are just walking around. I'm sure he's camouflaged the cam. A belt camera would be undetectable because they look like an ugly belt buckle.

For many years I've never noticed, but since several members made a bit of an issue of it, when I stopped by my chosen ATM for a withdrawal to pay my condo bill, I did look, and lo and behold, the bank's security guard IS armed. Myself, I've never noticed because it's really immaterial. What I [B]DO[/B] appreciate is I get a nice greeting as he opens the door for me, and, after I'm done with the withdrawal, we exchange thank you's as he opens the door for my exit. (And no, I didn't tremble in fear when someone else entered to use the ATM next to me; sure we both appreciated the vestibule screen from passing traffic and a bit of cooling from the bank's A / C). Nice that the guard recognizes me and we exchange greetings, just like it's nice to be recognized during my daily visit to Took Lae Dee and the several times a week visit to the ice cream shop (which goes a [B]LONG[/B] way in explaining why I'm walking and not taking a taxi.) So we all do agree you don't need an armed guard when making an ATM withdrawal, while it is nice to have someone open the door for you, armed or not.

He's not living the dream. He's a voyeuristic creep, selling other people's privacy on YouTube.

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2868238]This guy is just nothing short of amazing, god tier camera work at this point with these videos.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1lq__R918A[/URL]

Look at around 4:38, in this place, no one has a clue he's filming? And the rest of the video when he gets all up close and personal to all the hotties? It's like he's invisible or something. It's amazing!
How is he hiding the lens? But even with a gopro, in low light conditions, it's not going to work, it'll be too blurry. This dude is operating on a whole other level with the hiding of his camera, keeping things in focus and stable especially at night, and the quality of the video too. I must learn more from this sensei. I stand by my theory that it's a fanny pack across his chest. And it might even be an iphone and he's attaching it to the inside of the fanny pack, and cut a tiny hole for the lens to shoot out of, it's easier to hide a cell phone lens than say a gopro or action camera type set up. And an Iphone or the latest samsung phone is gonna be way better than a gopro. Especially with image stabilization. He's living the dream! He's living the dream fellas! Please, please sex gods, send me back to Thailand.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2868238]This guy is just nothing short of amazing, god tier camera work at this point with these videos.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1lq__R918A[/URL]

Look at around 4:38, in this place, no one has a clue he's filming? And the rest of the video when he gets all up close and personal to all the hotties? It's like he's invisible or something. It's amazing!
How is he hiding the lens? But even with a gopro, in low light conditions, it's not going to work, it'll be too blurry. This dude is operating on a whole other level with the hiding of his camera, keeping things in focus and stable especially at night, and the quality of the video too. I must learn more from this sensei. I stand by my theory that it's a fanny pack across his chest. And it might even be an iphone and he's attaching it to the inside of the fanny pack, and cut a tiny hole for the lens to shoot out of, it's easier to hide a cell phone lens than say a gopro or action camera type set up. And an Iphone or the latest samsung phone is gonna be way better than a gopro. Especially with image stabilization. He's living the dream! He's living the dream fellas! Please, please sex gods, send me back to Thailand.[/QUOTE]As someone who lives in Thailand I keen to understand why you think this is living the dream? Is living the dream being a creep, making a few baht from creeps clicking a YouTube video.

Loving the dream is surely being in the bars surrounded by girls having fun. Rather than being a YouTube sewer rat.

[QUOTE=Horatio;2868339]He's not living the dream. He's a voyeuristic creep, selling other people's privacy on YouTube.[/QUOTE]While there is no expectation of privacy in a public space, I believe, at least in some countries, there are restrictions in using people in commercial ventures without their consent. Regardless, it is creepy.

I'm the wrong side of 60 and try to avoid places where the music is so loud you can't hear yourself think (let alone have a conversation with the young lady sat next to you to determine which deviant sex acts are included in the price). For this reason I normally avoid the gogos.

Does anyone have any experience of gogos where the music volume is less than 100 db?

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2868238]This guy is just nothing short of amazing, god tier camera work at this point with these videos.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1lq__R918A[/URL]

Look at around 4:38, in this place, no one has a clue he's filming? And the rest of the video when he gets all up close and personal to all the hotties? It's like he's invisible or something. It's amazing!
How is he hiding the lens? But even with a gopro, in low light conditions, it's not going to work, it'll be too blurry. This dude is operating on a whole other level with the hiding of his camera, keeping things in focus and stable especially at night, and the quality of the video too. I must learn more from this sensei. I stand by my theory that it's a fanny pack across his chest. And it might even be an iphone and he's attaching it to the inside of the fanny pack, and cut a tiny hole for the lens to shoot out of, it's easier to hide a cell phone lens than say a gopro or action camera type set up. And an Iphone or the latest samsung phone is gonna be way better than a gopro. Especially with image stabilization. He's living the dream! He's living the dream fellas! Please, please sex gods, send me back to Thailand.[/QUOTE]Your amazement at YT BKK footage videos is strange at this point and brings no value to the forum.

Wow a guy walks around with a hidden camera recording the happenings of everyday life, so cool!

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2868238]This guy is just nothing short of amazing, god tier camera work at this point with these videos.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1lq__R918A[/URL]

Look at around 4:38, in this place, no one has a clue he's filming? And the rest of the video when he gets all up close and personal to all the hotties? It's like he's invisible or something. It's amazing!
How is he hiding the lens? But even with a gopro, in low light conditions, it's not going to work, it'll be too blurry. This dude is operating on a whole other level with the hiding of his camera, keeping things in focus and stable especially at night, and the quality of the video too. I must learn more from this sensei. I stand by my theory that it's a fanny pack across his chest. And it might even be an iphone and he's attaching it to the inside of the fanny pack, and cut a tiny hole for the lens to shoot out of, it's easier to hide a cell phone lens than say a gopro or action camera type set up. And an Iphone or the latest samsung phone is gonna be way better than a gopro. Especially with image stabilization. He's living the dream! He's living the dream fellas! Please, please sex gods, send me back to Thailand.[/QUOTE]Another way of looking at it is, if you were to ask everyone that appears in these videos (unbeknown to them no doubt) an overwhelming majority would not give their consent or want to be in it. It shouldn't even be a question of legalities, it's about basic morals and scruples and a bit of respect to others going about their own business. Leaving the girls to one-side, I've talked to plenty of people just out having a drink in the bars or a bite to eat who are sick to death of these nob heads going up and down the streets shooting videos. It's sick. It's getting more regular.

Posting here and in the Pattaya forum.

I visited Manila / Angeles for the 1st time earlier this year for 3 weeks. Had a very good time. Now I understand the risks and how to mitigate them as much as possible, so no lectures, please. I'm looking for BBFS / CIP and wondering if I can find that in Thailand for around or near the same level of effort and price as I experienced in the Philippines. Specifically, I was able to get what I wanted, mostly ST for between $80-150 including bar fines with 9 out 10 sessions. (You can find several of my TR's in the Phills forum from Feb-Mar, 2023.).

Is it likely I can do the same in Thailand? I have read through several weeks of posts here, and although there is mention, it's not really clear to me if I can get what I'm looking for without paying 2 to 4 times "normal" rates. I'm planning a one-month trip for early Spring, 2024.

Any feedback or advice will be appreciated.

Folks what would be the rough cost for a ten day trip including a couple of hookups and threesomes with some freelancers?

[QUOTE=Cusland;2868342]As someone who lives in Thailand I keen to understand why you think this is living the dream? Is living the dream being a creep, making a few baht from creeps clicking a YouTube video.

Loving the dream is surely being in the bars surrounded by girls having fun. Rather than being a YouTube sewer rat.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Horatio;2868339]He's not living the dream. He's a voyeuristic creep, selling other people's privacy on YouTube.[/QUOTE]If I ever catch the dude filming, Ill drop a dime on him to the nearest Thais. Someone should complain to YouTube anonymously. Make sure you use terms like Trafficking, Underage, Exploitation, etc.

[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2868393]I'm the wrong side of 60 and try to avoid places where the music is so loud you can't hear yourself think (let alone have a conversation with the young lady sat next to you to determine which deviant sex acts are included in the price). For this reason I normally avoid the gogos.

Does anyone have any experience of gogos where the music volume is less than 100 db?[/QUOTE]Do you speak Thai? Do you know how to say, "hey baby, how much for you to take it up the ass while squealing like a pig" in Thai?

No? Do what the rest of us do. Google Translate. All the bars are loud and I'm partially deaf myself.

[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2868432]Posting here and in the Pattaya forum.

I visited Manila / Angeles for the 1st time earlier this year for 3 weeks. Had a very good time. Now I understand the risks and how to mitigate them as much as possible, so no lectures, please. I'm looking for BBFS / CIP and wondering if I can find that in Thailand for around or near the same level of effort and price as I experienced in the Philippines. Specifically, I was able to get what I wanted, mostly ST for between $80-150 including bar fines with 9 out 10 sessions. (You can find several of my TR's in the Phills forum from Feb-Mar, 2023.).

Is it likely I can do the same in Thailand? I have read through several weeks of posts here, and although there is mention, it's not really clear to me if I can get what I'm looking for without paying 2 to 4 times "normal" rates. I'm planning a one-month trip for early Spring, 2024.

Any feedback or advice will be appreciated.[/QUOTE]You can get anything you want here if you pay for it. If you are bargain hunting, your chances decrease. I have two girls I BB and compensate them better than I do the average smash. I believe Senior Member and Respected Sage and Resident Goatscrot is a BB guy. Search out his posts.

[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2868393]I'm the wrong side of 60 and try to avoid places where the music is so loud you can't hear yourself think (let alone have a conversation with the young lady sat next to you to determine which deviant sex acts are included in the price). For this reason I normally avoid the gogos.

Does anyone have any experience of gogos where the music volume is less than 100 db?[/QUOTE]Pro tip. Use ear plugs. Airline workers, Rock Stars and me use them. They work.

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2868243]Even your biggest fan Mr York wants reports on Hot Girls.[/QUOTE]You been outside? [B]EVERY[/B] girl is HOT in this heat and humidity. Previous years, I don't remember it being this hot at this time of year. Hard to find even a breeze... Geesh!

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2868288]I tried that place back in May a day after arriving in Thailand, based on your last year's report.

I didn't take the salt tapping option though.
...
The place is interresting but I think I wouldn't go back again as their prices are quite expensive in my opinion.[/QUOTE]To each his own, but, FOR ME, the salt tapping is specifically WHY I go. There is just something about the properties of the salt that really makes you feel CLEAN, pleasure (AND pain as you will become MOST aware of any and all skin breaks, even the most insignificant). You're washed, salted, and [I]baked[/I]; like I said, the only missing thing is the apple in your mouth.

[QUOTE=PgReal;2868428]Leaving the girls to one-side, I've talked to plenty of people just out having a drink in the bars or a bite to eat who are sick to death of these nob heads going up and down the streets shooting videos. It's sick. It's getting more regular.[/QUOTE]Add me to that list.

[QUOTE=GundamDynames;2868441]Folks what would be the rough cost for a ten day trip including a couple of hookups and threesomes with some freelancers?[/QUOTE]Well the way I used to budget it at two week millionaire vsists:

Hotel $150 day.

Food 50.

Transport 20.

Drinks 50.

Tips 10.

Girls 200.

Weed 20.

Massages 30.

I don't think I left anything out. $530 X10=5300 x35=185,500 Baht.

You can adjust up or down as you need.

[QUOTE=GundamDynames;2868441]Folks what would be the rough cost for a ten day trip including a couple of hookups and threesomes with some freelancers?[/QUOTE]I can tell you haven't read this forum at all! But instead of being a douche saying RTFF I will answer your question. Let's say each Soi 4 Nana FL is 1000 baht. Now you want 2 of them so 2000 baht. So if you do a 3some 5x and a single girl 5x your total cost will be 15k baht plus incidentals like buying water or a snack for the girls plus tip and taxi back. Now if you are being charged 1500 baht per FL you'll multiply your total x1.5. If you want all Thermae girls at 2500+ multiply your total x2.5-3.0. If you want gogo girls your total will be 7000 per girl so multiply your total x7.

We can't predict any of your other costs as we don't know your lifestyle. Street food vs nice sit down restaurants. Walking vs Motorbike vs taxi. Are you going for the 40 baht watermelon smoothie or the 250 baht bingsu?

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2868488]Hard to find even a breeze... Geesh![/QUOTE]

Why I've always found Pattaya a bit more tolerable than Bangkok, not that Pattaya is very windy either most of the time.

Take a peek in the cars driving down Soi 6 in Pattaya and many have a camera video taping. Its an invasion of privacy. I wish someone would take a nail to the car as it passes so at least they pay some price for invading privacy.

[QUOTE=PgReal;2868428]Another way of looking at it is, if you were to ask everyone that appears in these videos (unbeknown to them no doubt) an overwhelming majority would not give their consent or want to be in it. It shouldn't even be a question of legalities, it's about basic morals and scruples and a bit of respect to others going about their own business. Leaving the girls to one-side, I've talked to plenty of people just out having a drink in the bars or a bite to eat who are sick to death of these nob heads going up and down the streets shooting videos. It's sick. It's getting more regular.[/QUOTE]

In USD $ $30 to $35 a day for a clean but cheapish hotel, under $10 a day for food, and $150 for a overnight threesome from a beer bar with average looking women. Maybe $10 a day for misc. Maybe $15 a day for drinks and lady drinks.

All that is on the lowish end of prices. It's way easy to spend a lot more and you might want to. I think many if not most here would spend quite a bit more.

EDITED TO ADD: I thought I was in the pattaya thread. I don't know how this would fare in Bangkok.

[QUOTE=GundamDynames;2868441]Folks what would be the rough cost for a ten day trip including a couple of hookups and threesomes with some freelancers?[/QUOTE]

Visiting Bangkok, planning for hpv vaccine but concern about side effects.

Anyone can share their experience with Hpv vaccine? Is it safe to take?

[QUOTE=GundamDynames;2868441]Folks what would be the rough cost for a ten day trip including a couple of hookups and threesomes with some freelancers?[/QUOTE]Step 1 - work out what you are comfortable spending for your mongering activities for the whole trip, just the play side.

Step 2. Work out roughly how many sessions / nights you intend to party (Always allow for recovery nights on longer trips).

Step 3. Divide your mongering budget by nights partying.

Obviously you need an idea of prices. Doubt whether you could get 2 FL girls in threesome for 1000 each on Suk Rd, but not an expert.

I budget 1 session a night. Approx spend 5000 - FL ers come down to 2500/3000, bar girls might go up to 6000.

The thing is not to stress too much about the $ side within reason. I always underspend. How many times will you be in Thailand this year, don't scrimp on fun.

YVMD.

NI.

Called a shop to see if a certain girl was working there. She wasn't, not unexpected since my previous ping had gone unread for several months. But I figured a last Hail Mary couldn't hurt, so fired off a message. And sometimes, just sometimes, that Hail Mary IS caught for a touchdown. (Note to self. Get some stronger reading glasses. Line's "read" notice's type is getting smaller and smaller.) She had read the previous message, and now this one, having just returned to BKK. She was able to meet privately. No-brainer.

Attractive, white skin, no tats. Rack is enhanced, which I DON'T like, but, for her, I make the exception. Nice hips, no hoopage. Healthy, and healthy is [B]NOT[/B] a euphemism for fat. She's got some feminine curves, even if some are artificial. She's not a javelin. She speaks and understands English fairly well, and one of her best qualities is her wit; she definitely can banter. If she needs to, quick dictation into her phone to translate her witty comeback. Currently pondering her next place of employment; no doubt a shop popular with Asians.

But her description is NOT the point of this post. The moral of THIS story is to have Line on YOUR phone (WeChat elsewhere), so you can get her contact info for [B]YOUR[/B] [I]worthy[/I] ones. Makes finding her again EASY. This trip, batting 800.

[QUOTE=Horatio;2868578]In USD $ $30 to $35 a day for a clean but cheapish hotel, under $10 a day for food, and $150 for a overnight threesome from a beer bar with average looking women. Maybe $10 a day for misc. Maybe $15 a day for drinks and lady drinks.

All that is on the lowish end of prices. It's way easy to spend a lot more and you might want to. I think many if not most here would spend quite a bit more.

EDITED TO ADD: I thought I was in the pattaya thread. I don't know how this would fare in Bangkok.[/QUOTE]You can't get a a good burger fries and a beer for $10. And a hotel for $35? 555.

Spicy ShackMeister.

$9.89 • 660 - 880 Cal.

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2868640]Called a shop to see if a certain girl was working there. She wasn't, not unexpected since my previous ping had gone unread for several months. But I figured a last Hail Mary couldn't hurt, so fired off a message. And sometimes, just sometimes, that Hail Mary IS caught for a touchdown. (Note to self. Get some stronger reading glasses. Line's "read" notice's type is getting smaller and smaller.) She had read the previous message, and now this one, having just returned to BKK. She was able to meet privately. No-brainer.

Attractive, white skin, no tats. Rack is enhanced, which I DON'T like, but, for her, I make the exception. Nice hips, no hoopage. Healthy, and healthy is [B]NOT[/B] a euphemism for fat. She's got some feminine curves, even if some are artificial. She's not a javelin. She speaks and understands English fairly well, and one of her best qualities is her wit; she definitely can banter. If she needs to, quick dictation into her phone to translate her witty comeback. Currently pondering her next place of employment; no doubt a shop popular with Asians.

But her description is NOT the point of this post. The moral of THIS story is to have Line on YOUR phone (WeChat elsewhere), so you can get her contact info for [B]YOUR[/B] [I]worthy[/I] ones. Makes finding her again EASY. This trip, batting 800.[/QUOTE]Getting social media contacts for Thai ladies is critical, if you want to see them again.

Just don't send them messages after you go home. Not much irks bargirls more than a string of messages from a lonely guy back home.

I don't eat burgers and fries in thailand. Amber sukhumvit 88 is clean and is less than $35. It's in On Nut but I'm reasonably sure it isn't the only clean hotel for that price in Thailand.

When did this forum turn into a shitting on other people's comments type forum?

[QUOTE=TConor;2868847]You can't get a a good burger fries and a beer for $10. And a hotel for $35? 555.

Spicy ShackMeister.

$9. 89 660 - 880 Cal.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Horatio;2868869]I don't eat burgers and fries in thailand. Amber sukhumvit 88 is clean and is less than $35. It's in On Nut but I'm reasonably sure it isn't the only clean hotel for that price in Thailand.

When did this forum turn into a shitting on other people's comments type forum?[/QUOTE]Yep, if you're regularly eating western food in LOS, then hey that's your preference. But Thai food is tastier and three meals and coffee can easily be done for $10 a day. T21 food court or any food courts at malls or Lotus's etc work wonders.

I had a Cardiology appointment at BNH Hospital (fabulous Cardiologists there, highly recommended) and got out at like 4:30, found an alley and whacked down some fab hashish mixed with some lovely smoke from Happy Cannibis in Bang Pho, then did my mental and physical gymnastics to find some food. Because the Docs told me I'm still alive, I decided to hang out instead of just hitting the MRT.

BTW, this was my first time down in Silom since March and I was saddened to see that many of the food vendors have been chased away now that the construction on the corner of Soi Convent is finished. Time marches on. Nice little plaza there now, places to sit and discreetly hit the pipe and watch the tourists. Heavy gay presence of course, the whole area is basically the gay and Japanese fun district.

But I digress and I decided I wanted some Pad Krapow Moo. The best in town IMHO is made by an Auntie over at the Bang Rak Food Court so I hopped the train and headed over.

Closed. The whole Court is being renovated. It will be back open in 2? Months. Hope she comes back. Wandered around in my stoner mode and then grabbed some dry Duck Noodles over at Pracha Roasted duck. Now, belly full, its only like 6 pm, grab the boat home or?

Wander down the street to the BTS, find a new weed shop off Charoen Krung (its on the little street right before the BTS) called Hamilton and Friends, great Animal Runtz, really cool chatchkes and bongs, run by a cool American dude and his Thai partner, they have a bar and coffee and a smoke room, well worth a stop if you are down there and definately worth it if you are a serious stoner and don't want to pay Suk area prices.

Well now I've missed the boat and Nana opens in an hour, so wander over there. I'm reaching my limit of ambulation (I'm already on 6 miles) so I try to mentally plan my penis relief strategy.

Billboard: by the time the second shift comes on, the place is pack with lovelies. Something for everyone. Tatooed MILFs with roboboobs, slinkies, zoftig milk beasts, fab line up. As my siatica was starting to scream I tipped the couple I am eyeing and took off. No sense springing the 5 or 6 K you end up spending when you arent physically ready.

Went down to Rainbow 5. Lots of talent there. But, my body is rebelling. Walk 5 minutes, sit 5 minutes, you old guys know the drill. If anyone cares about what my style of **** looks like, check out number 99.

Twister: Meh. Lollipops: Meh. Hey Yezhov how about a BJ? Great idea, but what about Thermae? OK.

Schoolgirl in front of Stumble Inn. So wierd, she has a creepy side eye.

Soi 7/1: One youngy at Majic Table, but she had fangs. Not on my pecker, bye. Wood Bar: Recoil in horror. Even with the sciatica I run back to Suk. The ladyboys at the top of the Soi looked better than any of the drain gang down there.

I'm hurting bad now. Still I stride (or stumble) on. Thermae: The Boss is there so I get to chat. Its filled with newbies and you can see that they are wondering who is this gnarly looking dude getting greeted by the staff. Do the circuit, say a few His, a few winks, mediocre talent IMHO.

All right, last chance. BJ. As Wood Bar made me gag (in the vomit way) and I have to be on the even number side to get a Grab, so across the bridge and off to Lolitas.

Lolitas is closed. Government sign in Thai on the door. OK: Kasolong? As bad as Wood Bar! Now what?

Easy. Go home. When you live here, tomorrow is another day.

Summary: Billboard is probably the best right now, although Rainbo 5 gives it competition. Thermae has been mediocre over the past week or so. Unless you want a monster gobbling your johnson, the BJ bars arent the place to go. Lolitas is closed.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2868857]Getting social media contacts for Thai ladies is critical, if you want to see them again.

Just don't send them messages after you go home. Not much irks bargirls more than a string of messages from a lonely guy back home.[/QUOTE]Never a string of messages, just a Happy New Year, Sonkron, 1 more. One will send me a picture of her latest trip, another of the Thai meal she's cooked, another maybe the latest hair style. Just a ping both directions.

Cheers, I can't find info on hotels that charge hourly and where they don't ask any questions beyond what's necessary.

From my last visit I know the two hotels right next to each other in that dead-end side street in Nana Plaza soi where the FLs will usually take you to. As far as I'm concerned they are both alright but I'm curious if you have further suggestions for Bangkok. Especially ones not located in the center of a red light district.

[QUOTE=ChrisCross123;2868996]Cheers, I can't find info on hotels that charge hourly and where they don't ask any questions beyond what's necessary.

From my last visit I know the two hotels right next to each other in that dead-end side street in Nana Plaza soi where the FLs will usually take you to. As far as I'm concerned they are both alright but I'm curious if you have further suggestions for Bangkok. Especially ones not located in the center of a red light district.[/QUOTE]Let the girls guide you. All the short time places are in the Red Light District, why else would you need short time. Taking a nap at what Pho?

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2868875]Yep, if you're regularly eating western food in LOS, then hey that's your preference. But Thai food is tastier and three meals and coffee can easily be done for $10 a day. T21 food court or any food courts at malls or Lotus's etc work wonders.[/QUOTE]$10 a day? Really? 350 baht?

Breakfast: Pad Krapow Moo or fried rice with a Cola 100 B.

Lunch: Gai Yang and SomTum with a Cole 100 B.

Dinner: Pad Thai with a Coke 100 B.

You have 50 baht letf for dessert.

Somehow it boggles my mind that folks come all the way over here to scrimp.

Head over to Yaowarat, you will pay $30 plus for a fab seafood dinner, do you want to miss that on your vacation? Hotel Buffets: get the Eatigo app, cost you 2000 baht to gorge on fabulous food. Why limit yourself? You want to live like a poor Thai?

Hell MK Restaurant in a mall will cost you $10.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a food snob, Ill eat everywhere and anywhere, and give me a plastic bag full of grilled chicken bones and sticky rice as a snack and Ill nomnom away, but don't you want to have stuff like Fried Fish or Chicken, Crab Fried Rice, Crab, River Shrimp, Shrimp Baked in Glass Noodle, Tom Yum. And all the Japanese food everywhere; do you want to avoid that for a $10 rice limit like a backpacker?

If you want to save money, go to Thai food Courts. Avoid the ones in T21 or Siam or Central World or Emquartier, avoid places like Foodland that are essentially tourist taste food and overpriced, find the ones where the Thais are at. If you have to go to a Food Court and don't mind the $$ hit, I like the one in Siam.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2868953]Summary: Billboard is probably the best right now, although Rainbow 5 gives it competition. Thermae has been mediocre over the past week or so. Unless you want a monster gobbling your Johnson, the BJ bars aren't the place to go. Lolitas is closed.[/QUOTE]Great to hear the sawbones gave you clearance for a night on the town. Loved the recap and your trenchant critique of the ground truth. Always fun to read your reports.

Bunky

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2869169]


Somehow it boggles my mind that folks come all the way over here to scrimp.

Head over to Yaowarat, you will pay $30 plus for a fab seafood dinner, do you want to miss that on your vacation? Hotel Buffets: get the Eatigo app, cost you 2000 baht to gorge on fabulous food. Why limit yourself? You want to live like a poor Thai?
.[/QUOTE]Yea, none of that appeals to me at all. I gave prices and said in the same post that it was on the cheaper side of prices and the questioner might want to spend a lot more and that most people do. Everyone knows that a person with a cheap budget could spend more and get better. No one should have read my post and thought that $10 a day was the limit they could spend and nothing better was available for ten times the money.

If people want to come to thailand and live like one week millionaires that's they're business and I hope they have fun doing so. But a person doesn't have to.

What would you budget overall for a 10 day stay if you're spending $50 a day on food? And if you were asking the question would you appreciate more than one view?

Alert: I tried to Bar find a hottie in billboard, and The mamasan Wanted the girls fee which was quoted as 4,000. I have no problem with the amount but I don't pay the massage before hand. This requires further investigation.

Don't waste your time with number 401 in rainbow, a short little cutie, she asked for 6,000.

[QUOTE=Horatio;2869441]Yea, none of that appeals to me at all. I gave prices and said in the same post that it was on the cheaper side of prices and the questioner might want to spend a lot more and that most people do. Everyone knows that a person with a cheap budget could spend more and get better. No one should have read my post and thought that $10 a day was the limit they could spend and nothing better was available for ten times the money.

If people want to come to thailand and live like one week millionaires that's they're business and I hope they have fun doing so. But a person doesn't have to.

What would you budget overall for a 10 day stay if you're spending $50 a day on food? And if you were asking the question would you appreciate more than one view?[/QUOTE]$400 to 500 a day is a great budget. Think of all the great food here in Bangkok. Yum, I think I want a Katchapuri.

But with babes asking 6 K in Go Gos, maybe that's not enough.

Don't forget weed, you can drop $30 in a weed store before you know it. BTW the Nepalese kid on the corner of Soi Arab is still the cheapest (and best) in the lower Suk area.

Hello guys,

I'm in Bangkok for 3 days, so here is my report.

For the record, I'm caucasian, around 30, fit 1. 92 m.

I'm staying at the Ramada hotel on soi 11, formerly Swiss hotel. Room is about 33 m2, with a nice shower big enough to fit 3-4 people and a king size bed.

Security is very lax. I brought a girl from Billboard (will come back to that later), no one asked for her ID, we didn't even go through the front desk.

Personally, I'm fully satisfied.

Day 1:

I was extremely tired (completely jet lagged. Had 1 h of sleep the day before) but also extremely pent up which prevented me to sleep, so I went out looking for a massage, which I figured wouldn't require too much effort ony part and would relieve me efficiently.

I gathered 3 places from this forum: Aries, Kokoro, and Doki Doki. Kokoro had some pretty bad reviews on google map recently, so I excluded it. Also read about Tulip and Annies that have their own thread, but excluded. Apprently lineup at Tulip is aging a bit, even though girls are highly skilled. Not sure about Annies, situation is a bit confusing: don't know if it's still good or not, or even if location is the same.

Anyways, I stopped at Aries first.

Prices range from 3500 bahts for news girls to 5000 bahts. Includes massage and sex, for 80 min sessions.

Receptionist makes you sit in a large sofa, and pick a girl on photo from a tablet.

Unfortunately, it was already 9 pm, and most girls were either booked, or gone.

Only girl available was Elsa. I read some super good review about her, but, photos didn't strike my fancy.

So I left the place after taking their Line contact, and continued to Doki Doki.

Doki Doki is a soapy massage. Mamassan was kind of bitchy and apparently explaining what was included in the service was as beneath her as being pleasant. Really had the impression I was just bothering her.

She asked me what "menu" I wanted. Picked the 3000 bahts for 60 min option, and sat on sofa waiting for lineup.

2 girls available there, both young and stunning, in a nice dress. One smiled, other avoided eye contact. Easy pick.

She's around 25, slightly tanned, tattooed, some stretch marks on the ass and fake boobs (but nicely done, honestly hard to tell). Super cute face, with hairs pulled up in a chignon. Speaks english enough for a conversation.

Payed mamasan, then went upstairs with the girl.

Small room, lit with pink light, separated in 2 spaces by a low wall. First space had a bed, which I didn't use. Second one had an inflatable mattress, a bucket, and a tap. No bad smell, but pretty moldy on the ceiling.

Girl told me to undress and lay on my back the mattress. She then proceeded to undress, and began the massage.

She filled the bucket with hot water and poured it on me. She then "soapped me" thoroughly with some super slippery stuff.

Then, she massaged me with her body: boobs, ass and pussy, sliding up and down my legs, torso, and little Johnson which enjoyed the treatment quite a bit.

She did that for the front, then back, then made me turn around again and gave me HJ and BBBJ.

Girl was all smiles, but no DFK, AR, FS, DATY or anything else. Didn't even put her boobs in my face. She stayed fairly low, giving me little chance to interact with her in any way, which I thought was a shame.

Anyways, at some point I felt her accelerating, which I interpreted as time running out, so I finished.

She rinced me, then I left. I'd say it was a pretty lukewarm experience overall.

I exited the place around 10 pm, so decided to do a recon of the area to prepare for the next few days.

I Walked up and down Sukhumvit road and the nearby alleys. I saw some girls already standing there in the morning, since 11 am, but the choice is scarce compared to the evening. Action is on the main road for street walkers, but there are plenty of bars with girls and massage places in the alleys. From what I read here, street walker standard price is around 2500 bahts for 1 hour.

I went through three places that stick out: Thermae, Soi Cowboy, and Nana Garden (look for Billboard on Google maps).

Thermae is a bar in the basement of Ruamchitt Hotel. For those who know, it strongly reminded me of ACE in Kuala Lumpur. Minus the cigarette smoke and sketchy neighbourhoud, plus better quality and more girls.

Place is about 200 m2. Went there at 10 pm, it's filled to the brim with girls, standing on the sides and middle of the room. And in between you have a "river" of guys circling to pick them up, or not.

Lots of young girls (20-30), and some older.

Quality vary, but pretty good overall. Some 8, average around 6. No super stunner, no old limping drug addict either.

I picked a drink (80 bahts for lemon juice), and circled around a bit. I left pretty quickly as most girls avoided eye contact. Not unexpected: from what I gathered, they seem to prefer asian guys over caucasians here. Didn't bother me as I was already spent. Onward to the next place.

Note: smell is terrible and place looks fairly old, like decaying. Prices are around 2500-3000 bahts in there.

Next place was Soi Cowboy. The vibe here is crazy. It's an alley full of bars and strip clubs blasting music. You have groups girls on both side of the alley, some dressed normally, some just in bikinis, trying to pull you to their place. Bunch of lone guys waking through, but I also spotted some caucasian couples, like tourists just checking what's going on here, or enjoying their beer and the vibe in one of the bars. Mood was festive like some crazy big party. Awesome place.

Apparently you can find some crazy entertainment here (turtle show?

But I didn't stop by as I was just there for recon tonight.

No idea of the prices or services here, if you can pick girl or just enjoy the show while getting blown.

Best for the last: Nana Garden.

Basically an Acienda of strip clubs and bars.

There is a small square with an open bar in the middle, and all around it, a you-shape 3-floor building.

The infamous Billboard, Buterflies, and Rainbow clubs are all there.

A large balcony on each floor, making the tour of the building lets you go from club to club.

Girls in sexy in sexy undies everywhere, either pulling you in, or just taking a break and eating.

Quantity and quality of girls is insane from my pov. I'd say easily 1000 girls in the whole "garden" ? Plenty of 8-9.

Again, didn't stay on day 1, but went back the next day.

Day 2:

Wanted to bring back a girl to my hostel for the second day. I went out at around 8 pm. I remember seing some incredible girls on the street the day before, but prefered not loose to much time walking around, especially in the heat. So I headed straight for Nana Garden, and there, to Billboard.

That place is fucking incredible.

Behind the curtain hides a big room, filled to the brim with stunning chicks in bikinis. Loud music, nightclub light. On the right, a huge tub with a dozen girls or so. On the left, two spinning platforms, with at least 20 girls on each. Against the wall in the back were 3 lines of bleachers that let you enjoy the show comfortably.

As soon as you enter, a waitress will bring you to a place to sit. I ordered a Gin Tonic for 170 bahts, and looked around.

On my right a guy with two spinners sitting on his lap. On my left another guy with a girl twerking on his lap.

Behind me were guys throwing some stuff at the girls on the scene. Don't know what it was.

Waitress stood next to me so I asked her how this all worked: basically, all girls have a number. If you like one, you tell the waitress, which will bring you the girl. This will cost you a drink for the girl (200 bahts), and in my case, a shot for the waitress (another 200).

Made eye contact with one of the girls on the platform, which smiled back. Number 32. Not the prettiest or most sexy, but still a solid 7 for me, so I picked her. She came and sat on my lap, and we chatted for a bit in english. After a while I asked her if she wanted to come with me or stay here. She obviously answered the former.

I asked the waitress how it worked: she quoted me 4000 bahts for the girl, plus 700 bahts of bar fine, for 2 hours. I agreed and payed. The girl went away to dress up for a while, and then came back to fetch me.

I almost didn't recognize as she totally left the spinner look. She wore a white shirt with black short and some sneaker which gave her a girl-next-door vibe.

Also, didn't realize she was that small! She told me 1 m47. Remember how big I am? Must have been a pretty comical scene seeing the two of us go back to my hotel. We chatted a bit on the way until we entered my room.

I undressed and entered the shower alone, while she undressed outside the bathroom. She joined me after a while, used the toilets, brushed her teeth, then finally came to join me. We caressed and kissed a bit, then went to bed under the sheets. She was all smiles and kisses and giggles.

After a while, she asked me if "I was ready". She put the condom on, lubed my tool, and we began mish. I'm quite big so she moaned and screamed a bit as I entered her. I began gently, to slowly increase the pace which she seemed to enjoy.

Mish is not my favorite position, so I switched to take her from behind on the side. As she was super small and light, I rolled around from that position to put her above me and access her clit at the same time I pounded her from below. She was moaning and squirming like crazy.

In the end I finished in doggy which let me enjoy her hourglass figure to the fullest.

We chilled a bit in bed, then went back to shower. She seemed quite sad to go back to her work, but I was completely spent and there was no way I would take her overnight. So I just brought her back to the hotel lobby and waved as she left.

For tomorrow, I booked Emily at Aries. 5000 bahts for 80 min. Will come back to report once I'm done.

Fantastic report. Thanks for sharing. What is the name of the hostel you stayed? Did you like it? How is their wifi?

[QUOTE=DecadentDude92;2869535]Hello guys,

I'm in Bangkok for 3 days, so here is my report.

For the record, I'm caucasian, around 30, fit 1. 92 m.

I'm staying at the Ramada hotel on soi 11, formerly Swiss hotel. Room is about 33 m2, with a nice shower big enough to fit 3-4 people and a king size bed.

Security is very lax. I brought a girl from Billboard (will come back to that later), no one asked for her ID, we didn't even go through the front desk.

Personally, I'm fully satisfied.

Day 1:

I was extremely tired (completely jet lagged. Had 1 h of sleep the day before) but also extremely pent up which prevented me to sleep, so I went out looking for a massage, which I figured wouldn't require too much effort ony part and would relieve me efficiently.

I gathered 3 places from this forum: Aries, Kokoro, and Doki Doki. Kokoro had some pretty bad reviews on google map recently, so I excluded it. Also read about Tulip and Annies that have their own thread, but excluded. Apprently lineup at Tulip is aging a bit, even though girls are highly skilled. Not sure about Annies, situation is a bit confusing: don't know if it's still good or not, or even if location is the same.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DecadentDude92;2869535]Also read about Tulip and Annies that have their own thread, but excluded. Apprently lineup at Tulip is aging a bit, even though girls are highly skilled. Not sure about Annies, situation is a bit confusing: don't know if it's still good or not, or even if location is the same.[/QUOTE]The ORIGIANL Annies (RIP), attached to the old Rajah Hotel, Sukhumvit Soi 4, closed 5+ years ago. Fishbowl for the ladies, large free standing tubs in the rooms, along with a tiled air mattress slip-and-slide area next to the tub, and a bed, all in the room. A [I]new[/I] Annies later opened on Sukhumvit Soi 7/1, but, IMHO, in name only. I've never been, but given the reports I've read, nothing to entice me.

Had been meaning to stop by Soi 7's Beer Garden, just to see its current state, given its grimness last year. Other more important things on the to-do list, but the BG got pushed to the top after I read Stick's column this week. Didn't know what to expect. The Soi 7 corner has certainly changed, though now, you don't have to exit from the BTS in the opposite direction from Soi 7. Now, they've nicely made a connection to the old pedestrian overpass closer to Soi 7, so it's a bit easier.

Walked down the Soi, and a bit of a surprise, the BG sign still there (guess I was expecting a vacant lot). It's now just a mass of beer bars, an expanding mutation of what was there last year. A mamasan flagged me down, saying "This is the BG" (probably due to my age), and sure enough, at the far side, where the original entrance and the alter were, there it was. But like an old lady, shoved into a corner by the younger generation. Like one of my CHEAP $5 t-shirts, mistakenly washed in hot water then thrown into the dryer, shrunk from adult to child's size. Gone is the front wall, now open to the street. ONE tiny bar with a pool table in front, really indistinguishable from all the other beer bars there. One tree, the one by the old entrance has survived, but the other on the opposite side, gone. Mamasan said "cut down, for money". Sad.

Yes, the BG was old school. But once upon a time, a nice place to me to meet up with friends, have a drink and a conversation where you could hear yourselves, before heading out to Nana or Cowboy. And, for me, a nice place in an afternoon, having stopped by Soi 5's Foodland to pick up a Bangkok Post NEWSPAPER, take the shortcut (still there) to the BG, and peruse Trink's night Owl column, or the Sloane Ranger, or Sunday's page 2, with last week's / upcoming week's news, with some witty comments on each (some rather surprising for their jabs). With a bit of luck, you could catch an [I]afternoon delight[/I], originally a taxi to the Playboy Motel with its carport curtains, later on a SHORT walk to Soi 7/1's hotel, a mix of tourists and ST rooms on the lower floors. And last week of the month, before payday, reasonable chance of a shop girl looking to pick up some cash to tide her over until said payday. In the early evening, the BG could be packed with men drinking and FL's looking to score. Now, while I was there in the early afternoon, a couple of other [I]mature[/I] gents stopping by, no doubt for old times sake, one over-the-hill provider, the mamasan the only staff. Still had ONE big screen TV for sports.

Like the old rambling ranch style home you'd visit while growing up, now, it's gone, and the lot has been transformed into those small sheds to house the homeless. If this sounds like an obituary, guess it is.

Annies, Eden, SOL, Beer Garden... No, I don't live in the past, but I do pay homage to it, given the pleasant memories generated by each.

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On just about the last hot / humid / no-breeze day, EARLY afternoon, took a stroll along Soi 23 for old times sake. 3-5 girls outside each of the MP's. One at each shop tasked as the tout, calling out "Massage" and holding up the laminated price sheet as you passed. Most looking bored and disinterested. One, maybe two, along the whole stretch MIGHT have been worth of a second glance if they'd looked up from their phone. Figure if they're glued to the phone, they won't be glued to you. Happy to say, it was just a stroll, nothing that remotely kindled any kind of desire. Only benefit was a bit of exercise of the vertical nature.

[QUOTE=DecadentDude92;2869535]Hello guys, ... [/QUOTE]Great report. Much appreciated. More of that is needed.

[QUOTE]young and stunning ... tattooed, some stretch marks[/QUOTE]Wish I could overlook those.

[QUOTE]Didn't even put her boobs in my face. She stayed fairly low, giving me little chance to interact with her in any way, which I thought was a shame.[/QUOTE]Why didn't you just tell her to get a little closer or pull her closer?

[QUOTE]Next place was Soi Cowboy ... trying to pull you to their place[/QUOTE]If a girl (in Thailand) tries to physically pull you then "she" is usually a ladyboy. Went there once and it was just too annoying. In Vietnam this seems to be also common among actual girls.

[QUOTE]... festive ... [/QUOTE]Very festive indeed.

[QUOTE]Apparently you can find some crazy entertainment here (turtle show?[/QUOTE]And I don't even want to know what that is.

[QUOTE]No idea of the prices or services here, if you can pick girl or just enjoy the show while getting blown.[/QUOTE]There's so much wrong with that statement except for one thing which is that it implies you didn't go. I never accept anything in those places without someone telling me clearly what it costs and I certainly not going to receive a BJ from a girl I can't choose and I also won't enjoy any of those weird shows. Be it turtles or birds or ping pongs.

[QUOTE]Best for the last: Nana Garden.[/QUOTE]Where did you dig this term out?

[QUOTE] Basically an Acienda of strip clubs and bars.[/QUOTE]A what?

[QUOTE] Girls in sexy in sexy undies everywhere, either pulling you in, or just taking a break and eating.[/QUOTE]Great area to check the ladies out because the light is better in the hall. So I can check for stretch marks and skin problems.

[QUOTE] Quantity and quality of girls is insane from my pov. I'd say easily 1000 girls in the whole "garden" ? Plenty of 8-9.[/QUOTE]Quantity for sure. Quality. Meh. Never seen a 9 there. An 8 is possible if I look long enough.

[QUOTE]Wanted to bring back a girl to my hostel for the second day.[/QUOTE]Hostel? I hope you mean hotel as you wrote above. For the sake of your bunk bed neighbors, please. Why not some hour hotel around the corner of Nana? The girls will show you the way.

[QUOTE] That place is fucking incredible.[/QUOTE]It is truly addicting. Can't wait to be back very soon. As I said the quality is not always sufficient for my distinguished taste and the post-op ladyboy paranoia is a little tiring but damn do I feel like a child in a candy store and I can have anything I like.

[QUOTE]As soon as you enter, a waitress will bring you to a place to sit.[/QUOTE]Not if you politely gesture her to leave you alone. I first walk around a little because there is no point in sitting down or even ordering a beer if there is no girl I fancy.

[QUOTE]I ordered a Gin Tonic for 170 bahts,[/QUOTE]Little advice. Do not order anything other than a bottle of beer that is being opened in front of you in seedy venues. Also anything other than beer will be disappointing assume you know what that spirit is supposed to taste like. Only god knows what they put in there, you're lucky if it just tastes like crap. They certainly won't treat you with anything legit.

[QUOTE] and in my case, a shot for the waitress (another 200).[/QUOTE]A little tip can lubricate the whole experience. But I would use those bribes only goal-driven. Anything else is just wasting money.

[QUOTE]I asked the waitress how it worked: she quoted me 4000 bahts for the girl, plus 700 bahts of bar fine, for 2 hours. [/QUOTE]Did prices increase or did your throwing money around get you branded? Last time (March 2023) I paid 3000 for the girl and 1000 bar fine. In three different bars there.

[QUOTE]She wore a white shirt with black short and some sneaker which gave her a girl-next-door vibe.[/QUOTE]I always (four times) asked the girl / mamasan to take the heels with her or put them on. Never a problem. I think once I told the girl to bring her bar outfit.

[QUOTE]Must have been a pretty comical scene seeing the two of us go back to my hotel. [/QUOTE]"comical" or intimidating. Your choice. But you seem to be a friendly and down to earth guy. You have my sympathy.

[QUOTE]I undressed and entered the shower alone, while she undressed outside the bathroom. [/QUOTE]And where was you phone and wallet? (Was you ho (s) tel room so I assume locked in the safe.) I hope at least those you took with you into the shower. Weird decision making anyway. Dude, that was your chance to shower with a sexy lady. Wouldn't even consider showering alone. Just think of all the nice things you can do there. Also wouldn't trust that the girl is still there.

[QUOTE]We caressed and kissed a bit, [/QUOTE]You have no idea where that mouth was just hours before. LOL.

[QUOTE]After a while, she asked me if "I was ready". [/QUOTE]This starts to sound a little comical indeed.

[QUOTE] I'm quite big so she moaned and screamed a bit as I entered her. I began gently, to slowly increase the pace which she seemed to enjoy.[/QUOTE]So, you actually engaged in sexual intercourse, I can't believe it by now.

[QUOTE]She seemed quite sad to go back to her work, but I was completely spent and there was no way I would take her overnight. [/QUOTE]Well, short time is 2 hours and you bet I'll keep them busy for 120 minutes straight. Some times they joke about how it's getting too much and that Japanese guys just come after 5 minutes and that's it. Now you know why they prefer Asians. Also smaller dick. I read sometimes that the FLs from Nana refused to do a second round. I never even considered that as an option. Maybe it helped that I always went very late to Nana, so they usually went home anyway. Maybe earlier in the day mamasan will request them to return ASAP as possible. Usually at least three rounds. Sometimes four.

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2869574]Had been meaning to stop by Soi 7's Beer Garden, just to see its current state, given its grimness last year. ...... but I do pay homage to it, given the pleasant memories generated by each.[/QUOTE]Every time I see the word Beergarden I get PTSD symptoms. Years back when the thing was booze, not weed, I went there to eat a fried pig knuckle and ended up in a short time room with a girl who with booze googles looked young and fab in the dim lighting, but who rapidly turned into something out of the Excorcist, complete with grimaces as I pounded away. And in those days, I was in better shape so for the whole 2 minutes I thought I would be devoured by the demons from hell.

That's my fond Beer Garden memory. My Ugliest fuck in Thailand.

The pig knuckles were good though. But I haven't been back for one since, what if she's still there?

While several of you are waxing nostalgic about Annie's, BG, and Soi 22 et. Al. From the golden years, I, only at the tender age of 66, started coming to Bangkok in 2015. One of my favorite haunts, although much maligned on these pages, was Bangkok Beat on Soi 7/1. It was a raucous rock and roll club and bar with sometimes decent Filipino and Thai rock bands and a bevy of slightly over the hill dames who were more than happy to accompany you for a long time night of horizontal fun for a reasonable price and no bar fine. Sometimes, just a beer or two, a quick negotiation, and it was on.

Bangkok Beat was owned by a French guy, now passed on, who got into some sort of financial difficulty and sold the establishment around 2018. It is the current location of a hotel and located directly across from the Atlas Hotel, a reputed short time place on this Soi. Only recently, I discovered this Soi 7/1 was also used as a set for some of the Hangover 2 movie. Further up at the end of the Soi is a massage place called Annies, which may be the reincarnation of the Annies in Nana Plaza. Direct across from Annies is the Green Room, a small but decent blues and rock band club and bar. Alas, no P4 P are there under general circumstances.

As to your recent critique of a members report:

1. The mixed drinks in Billboard are fine. Iced coffee is excellent BTW. Your "advice" to drink only beer is based on what?

2. There are plenty of 9's and 8's and even a 10 or two in Nana. I was there as recently as November 16. How many times have you been there in 2023?

3. I won't say RTFF because of the lag in the way posts appear but you will note that as I have reported NOW Barfines in Billboard are 700 and the girls ask for 4000. Which amount the Mamasans try to collect. Try is the operative word on me because I don't do that. Again, the barfines and fee requested are 700 B and 4000 B. Now I don't know when this came into effect, or if other places are doing it, but I'm on a mission to find out. In fact, I'm going out there tonight, Saturday.

4. Don't kiss that mouth because you don't know where it has been before? Get real dude. You kiss those titties after some dude spewed man chowder all over them? You let her grab your salami after she pulled a finger out of my utterly foul and repulsive ass? You wear a full body condom, do you? Saran wrap your face before diving into and tonguing that glistening clam of love?

5. Coyotes and Drink Girls and Dancers will pull you into their bars. Street ladyboys leave white folks alone, even on Soi Nana. This is Bangkok, not Pattaya. Oh and if all the girls that pull you into bars are ladyboys, why do you let them pull you in to a ladyboy bar?

[QUOTE=Tomasb;2869677]While several of you are waxing nostalgic about Annie's, BG, and Soi 22 et. Al. From the golden years, I, only at the tender age of 66, started coming to Bangkok in 2015. One of my favorite haunts, although much maligned on these pages, was Bangkok Beat on Soi 7/1. It was a raucous rock and roll club and bar with sometimes decent Filipino and Thai rock bands and a bevy of slightly over the hill dames who were more than happy to accompany you for a long time night of horizontal fun for a reasonable price and no bar fine. Sometimes, just a beer or two, a quick negotiation, and it was on.

Bangkok Beat was owned by a French guy, now passed on, who got into some sort of financial difficulty and sold the establishment around 2018. It is the current location of a hotel and located directly across from the Atlas Hotel, a reputed short time place on this Soi. Only recently, I discovered this Soi 7/1 was also used as a set for some of the Hangover 2 movie. Further up at the end of the Soi is a massage place called Annies, which may be the reincarnation of the Annies in Nana Plaza. Direct across from Annies is the Green Room, a small but decent blues and rock band club and bar. Alas, no P4 P are there under general circumstances.[/QUOTE]Bangkok Beat was great. The girls werent really over the hill, I see older dancing in Nana. Its all about the makeup.

Then there was the old Eden Club.

Annies is the same as Wood Bar for staff. I never have been in there.

[QUOTE=ChrisCross123;2869600]Great report. Much appreciated. More of that is needed.

Wish I could overlook those.

Why didn't you just tell her to get a little closer or pull her closer?

If a girl (in Thailand) tries to physically pull you then "she" is usually a ladyboy. Went there once and it was just too annoying. In Vietnam this seems to be also common among actual girls.

Very festive indeed.

And I don't even want to know what that is.

There's so much wrong with that statement except for one thing which is that it implies you didn't go. I never accept anything in those places without someone telling me clearly what it costs and I certainly not going to receive a BJ from a girl I can't choose and I also won't enjoy any of those weird shows. Be it turtles or birds or ping pongs.

Where did you dig this term out?

A what?

Great area to check the ladies out because the light is better in the hall. So I can check for stretch marks and skin problems.

Quantity for sure. Quality. Meh. Never seen a 9 there. An 8 is possible if I look long enough.

Hostel? I hope you mean hotel as you wrote above. For the sake of your bunk bed neighbors, please. Why not some hour hotel around the corner of Nana? The girls will show you the way.

It is truly addicting. Can't wait to be back very soon. As I said the quality is not always sufficient for my distinguished taste and the post-op ladyboy paranoia is a little tiring but damn do I feel like a child in a candy store and I can have anything I like.

Not if you politely gesture her to leave you alone. I first walk around a little because there is no point in sitting down or even ordering a beer if there is no girl I fancy.

Little advice. Do not order anything other than a bottle of beer that is being opened in front of you in seedy venues. Also anything other than beer will be disappointing assume you know what that spirit is supposed to taste like. Only god knows what they put in there, you're lucky if it just tastes like crap. They certainly won't treat you with anything legit.

A little tip can lubricate the whole experience. But I would use those bribes only goal-driven. Anything else is just wasting money.

Did prices increase or did your throwing money around get you branded? Last time (March 2023) I paid 3000 for the girl and 1000 bar fine. In three different bars there.

I always (four times) asked the girl / mamasan to take the heels with her or put them on. Never a problem. I think once I told the girl to bring her bar outfit.

"comical" or intimidating. Your choice. But you seem to be a friendly and down to earth guy. You have my sympathy.

And where was you phone and wallet? (Was you ho (s) tel room so I assume locked in the safe.) I hope at least those you took with you into the shower. Weird decision making anyway. Dude, that was your chance to shower with a sexy lady. Wouldn't even consider showering alone. Just think of all the nice things you can do there. Also wouldn't trust that the girl is still there.

You have no idea where that mouth was just hours before. LOL.

This starts to sound a little comical indeed.

So, you actually engaged in sexual intercourse, I can't believe it by now.

Well, short time is 2 hours and you bet I'll keep them busy for 120 minutes straight. Some times they joke about how it's getting too much and that Japanese guys just come after 5 minutes and that's it. Now you know why they prefer Asians. Also smaller dick. I read sometimes that the FLs from Nana refused to do a second round. I never even considered that as an option. Maybe it helped that I always went very late to Nana, so they usually went home anyway. Maybe earlier in the day mamasan will request them to return ASAP as possible. Usually at least three rounds. Sometimes four.[/QUOTE]This retort to original post is Funny as BleeP. More please.

Sorry guys if I make a new demand but did not find out a stupid think: Best Club in BKK to find out russian freelance or street please?

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2868303]In Japan (and I assume Korea) they sell shirt button and belt cameras. There are shops that specialize in these items in Akihabara and Ikebukuro. You can buy cheap ones for 200-300 USD but if you want really high quality ones (ie 4k or 8k) you're looking at 1000++ USD(?). GoPro has the new mini 11 camera but they're still significantly larger than the other possibilities I mention. GoPro's also have very poor aperture meaning they completely suck in low light. DJI Mini Action 4 could be what he's using. They are the cameras made for drones. Just checked DJI site and they're 759 USD.

From the movement when he's walking I'm guessing this is a belt camera or a mini camera attached to his belt or a front pocket. A mini DJI would still be noticeable if you were looking at the guy's crotch but would be undetectable if you are just walking around. I'm sure he's camouflaged the cam. A belt camera would be undetectable because they look like an ugly belt buckle.[/QUOTE]I agree Banana Boi, I think it's definitely some kind of set up that's around the waist or chest. And that's true, even the latest gopro isn't going to cut it with night footage. What you mentioned with the DJI might be what it takes, but watching some of this videos, I suspect it's also a cellphone. When it really needs to be hidden, like when he's shooting in soapies or walking right up to the chicks or especially when he does his Thaniya rounds, I bet it's a souped up action camera hidden somewhere, but other times when he's walking around and chicks are clearly making eye contact with him, he's got to be using his phone, probably the latest iphone or a souped up samsung. Yeah, he's definitely hiding the camera well, my theory is a hole in a fanny pack around his waist, and if the lens is small enough, then almost no one will notice, especially at night in crowded areas like this. I got to learn this stuff if I'm going to be as awesome as this guy. In this sad, sad age of social media with camera phones everywhere, non-stop selfies, cctv's at every corner of every city in the world, we're all on camera all the time. At this point by now, every one of us is in somebody's photo and footage, we just have to accept it and join in the fun. We all know why we're in Bangkok anyway. Bangkok exists for one reason, and one reason only.

Was in Bangkok for a week and decided to not visit the normal P2 P scene and attempt my luck with fiwfans. RTTF, I understand that all images are photoshopped and went knowing full well of the bait and switch, but why not? I haven't been back to Bangkok in over 3+ years.

Msg'd agencies through LINE and here are their responses to accepting foreigner.

MADAM88888 = no.

PinkPanther Club = yes.

TSG = yes.

Only Your Fans = yes.

Celine.

[URL]https://fiwfans.vip/sideline/406raeaielah9d9o1[/URL]

Images are a bit shopped, but not by much. She is thin / spinner with small A. Not the best oral, not sure how she doesn't get whip-lashed with her head movements. Attitude was better than all the others I visited.

WIR: Yes.

Alicia.

[URL]https://fiwfans.vip/sideline/406raekk3lkz3vwns[/URL]

Medium-Heavy photoshop. Darker in skin tone, for those that cares, man-made see, slender body. She was still eating when I arrived, didn't bother me much, but the play wasn't the best. She took the lead and rushed all the positions.

WIR: No.

Fiko.

[URL]https://fiwfans.vip/sideline/406rae3ugl9wd6zo1[/URL]

Bad experience before meeting her and cancelled. Setup a time and left to meet her, was told to buy condom and brought some on my way there. Because of this, I was 1 minute late to the scheduled appointment. LINE her many times, with barely a response. The 2nd time I messaged her, she responded with "And? Then nothing. After multiple messages and waiting for 30 minutes, I decided to call it quit. She was responsive after I said I was done and going home.

WIR: No.

I had others with TSG and Only Your Fans, but their profiles aren't active anymore and I can't remember their names. Nothing to write more about and I wouldn't have repeated with them. Basically, the only lady I would repeat with is Celine. Great overall service by her.

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2869847]In. We all know why we're in Bangkok anyway. Bangkok exists for one reason, and one reason only.[/QUOTE]The population of Bangkok is over 10 million people. I can assure you the vast majority of them are not involved in the sex industry. There is an entire strata of society that wouldn't be caught dead socializing with the sexpat crowd.

[QUOTE=Jarjarmissa;2869846]Sorry guys if I make a new demand but did not find out a stupid think: Best Club in BKK to find out russian freelance or street please?[/QUOTE]Read the Forum. No Russian frelancers in BKK Clubs, hasnt been a Russian on the street since that fat old blonde 10 plus years ago.

I did all the research for you:

Billboard 700 Bar, 4000 girl, pay the Mamasan first. Fabulous quality last night.

Geisha 1000 Bar, 3000 girl. Pay the girl. Again, great quality.

Rainbow 5 1000 Bar, 3000 girl, pay the girl, make sure you deal with the waitresses or Mamasan, so so quality.

Bunny's 1000 Bar 3000 girl, pay Mamasan. Decent quality.

Twister: too skeezy to ask.

I was told specifically by two Mamasans that the entire complex may go to Mamasan collections to protect the girls from non payers. Without making any judgements as to the truth, "Indian man not pay girl" was what I was told.

My cute bar fine last night (So cute I had to have her) told me that Mamasans are screening customers because "China man bad to girl".

There are three in Billboard I must have, and two in Rainbow 5, and one in Bunnys. Off to Cambo first to get my Visa finalized.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2869863]The population of Bangkok is over 10 million people. I can assure you the vast majority of them are not involved in the sex industry. There is an entire strata of society that wouldn't be caught dead socializing with the sexpat crowd.[/QUOTE]You both are right.

Of every Sex Dollar spent. Tourist only account for 20%.

I'm of the opinion Thailand is a Big Brothel. Sex is just so accessible.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2869484]Alert: I tried to Bar find a hottie in billboard, and The mamasan Wanted the girls fee which was quoted as 4,000. I have no problem with the amount but I don't pay the massage before hand. This requires further investigation.

Don't waste your time with number 401 in rainbow, a short little cutie, she asked for 6,000.[/QUOTE]Rainbow 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,or 8?

[QUOTE=Tomasb;2869677]It is the current location of a hotel and located directly across from the Atlas Hotel, a reputed short time place on this Soi. Only recently, I discovered this Soi 7/1 was also used as a set for some of the Hangover 2 movie. Further up at the end of the Soi is a massage place called Annies, which may be the reincarnation of the Annies in Nana Plaza. Direct across from Annies is the Green Room, a small but decent blues and rock band club and bar. Alas, no P4 P are there under general circumstances.[/QUOTE]Atlas Hotel, that was the name. The preferred ST hotel for the BG FL'ers. Short walk, front desk right inside the entrance, something like 300-350 per hour, no ID required. The rooms were on the 3rd or 4th floor, with the [I]civilians[/I] staying on the floors above (at least I never saw a [I]civilian[/I] on the ST floor, just cleaning ladies tidying up the rooms). Rooms were not all that bad for a ST hotel, but they didn't have the sex furniture that the PB Hotel had.

Annies on Soi 7/1 is where the [B]NAME[/B] of the old soapie moved to, but from what I've heard, the name is all that moved.

Well, the weather has certainly improved. Cooler (relatively) and definitely less humidity, with a nice breeze most of the day. Last week, couldn't walk 5 blocks before my shirt was soaked with sweat. Entering any A/C, even the Sky Train, and I was freezing. Yesterday, out and about, walking a full hour, running errands, and shirt dry enough I could sit in Took Lae Dee's A/C without freezing. Sakura Akasuri (salt tapping) yesterday afternoon didn't seem all that busy unlike my previous visit. Nice weather and scrubbed clean...

[QUOTE=Jarjarmissa;2869846]Sorry guys if I make a new demand but did not find out a stupid think: Best Club in BKK to find out russian freelance or street please?[/QUOTE]Quickly browsed some of your posts. You are looking for non pro Russian girls in their 30's to go out with you for money. First you're looking in the wrong city. Lots of Russian girls in Pattaya. Go there. I could name the pro girl bars for you but you seem to be searching for non pro so I can't help you. There was a Russian non pro bar in Pattaya years ago don't believe it survived COVID. Someone can correct me. I've never been there so it didn't matter to me. I've never dated a Russian girl in Pattaya nor have I tried. Got way too many Russian girls where I'm from to begin with.

[QUOTE=Jarjarmissa;2869846]Sorry guys if I make a new demand but did not find out a stupid think: Best Club in BKK to find out russian freelance or street please?[/QUOTE]Bangkok is definitely not your best bet for this. Dubai isn't that far away.

I am now already in Bangkok, and as I am busy until next weekend I could meet and monger in the evenings during the week.

As I am short time here I would like to hang around with other monger (s) who knows the city and culture, with whom I could go in some clubs and see what happens.

Please PM.

Decent weather, weekend, high noon, went out to Chatuchak Market. A number of people, but NOT packed, so rather nice. Fun place to people watch and to pick up some gifts for the home folks. Couple of shops I've done business with for a time, some decades, always fun to see what new items they have. I do studiously avoid the pets section. And the one-size-fits-all T-shirts... they don't.

And, for YEARS, I'd always stop at Viva26, section 26, to rehydrate. However, last year it was gone, didn't survive Covid. But this year, happy to report another watering hole has formed in its spot, even expanding, La Rumba cafe (section 26, Soi 1/7). So anyone taking an intermission from the [I]entertainment[/I] scene, after wandering around Chatuchak for a few hours, great place to take some refreshments and people watch. The Latin music seems a bit incongruous for the scene, but certainly BETTER than Christmas carols (long gone are the days where one could escape THOSE by visiting BKK.).

Couple of days ago, stopped by the Dunkin Donuts off of Sukhumvit, Soi 13. SMALL shop taking up a LITTLE space in an office building. Nowhere near the size nor the convenience of the one that used to be at the foot of the BTS escalator at Asok. Not much selection in the afternoon, but maybe the morning office workers had picked it clean. Today, post Chatuchak, looked up Dunkin Donuts on Silom. Quite convenient, directly off the Sky Train platform, turnstile level, 3rd floor of the golf center building, just head straight into the building on the short bridge from the BTS rather than down the stairs to Silom. Decent selection INCLUDING.... wait for it...wait for it... Bavarian cream. 8 for 100 baht.

I can't imagine what's going thru Mr Newtons mind. His hero is Writing about Dunkin Donuts 🍩. Is this how much Bangkok has fallen.

My answer to above is HELL YEAH.

I got nothing but School Girl to report on.

Things not looking good for High Season. It's dreadful here in Pattaya.

Tourist Authority will pay Indian s somehow to get them here. Then businesses won't let them in,. Weird.

'Couple of days ago, stopped by the Dunkin Donuts off of Sukhumvit, Soi 13. SMALL shop taking up a LITTLE space in an office building. '.

The precise location is the ground floor of the Trendy Building, which houses condo's and retail shops on the lower level. The Dunkin Donuts is just to the left as you walk in. It has a small seating area and adequate selection of donuts for about 30 bt.

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2870193]I can't imagine what's going thru Mr Newtons mind. His hero is Writing about Dunkin Donuts 🍩. Is this how much Bangkok has fallen.
[/QUOTE]This might be a strange concept for some, hard to grasp, but there are those who have a life outside of the [I]entertainment[/I] areas; rather a traveler than a tourist. And with that come Thai [i]civilian[/i] friends (another strange concept for some) who give invitations to get out of the city and go up-country and visit. Myself, the [I]entertainment[/I] gets the, as the Thais say, "same, same, but different", so, myself, I need to cleanse the ole palate. And Mom always said (you really should listen to Mom) to never arrive as a guest empty handed. Gelato works, but it is a hassle on those long slogs, even if & puts in dry ice in the bag. Solution: donuts. The kids like them, not something they usually get, and the adults, well, it's a change from the usual with the morning coffee. But the first requirement is that you actually have friends that invite you to visit and will put you up. Certainly easier for some than for others, even with the Thai hospitality.

Also works for you in BKK if you want a change from the fresh baked croissants that can be found at Tops Bakery...

Strange: twice today, 2 separate occasions, I thanked a man in Thai, and he, speaking perfect English, thanked me for speaking Thai, he appreciated it. Now, he might have been pulling my leg, but he seemed serious. Later, I let an older (which IS saying something) lady on the escalator in front of me, She thanked me in Thai, and I responded in Thai "that's OK" (which came close to exhausting my Thai vocabulary). And she started talking to me, going on and on, in Thai. Sure, she might have been scolding me, but she certainly had a smile on her face, and what little I did catch was she surmised I didn't speak the Isan dialect. Maybe that's what happens when the locals feel overrun by foreigners.


But taking a page from YOUR book of what counts as info:

Chatuchak: early afternoon, a number of hotties. Might have spotted a 10, but she was moving pretty fast and got masked in a crowd. But certainly a few 9's (Thai, Chinese but couldn't say if PRC or Taiwanese, think some Korean), all in sections 11-26, and certainly a number of 7's and 8's (Asian, but even a smattering of Caucasian), same sections, plus a few in the MRT station. And since you never post post-viewing, seems immaterial here too.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;2870214]'Couple of days ago, stopped by the Dunkin Donuts off of Sukhumvit, Soi 13. SMALL shop taking up a LITTLE space in an office building. '.

The precise location is the ground floor of the Trendy Building, which houses condo's and retail shops on the lower level. The Dunkin Donuts is just to the left as you walk in. It has a small seating area and adequate selection of donuts for about 30 bt.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the precise location. That was it, but late afternoon, the offerings were SPARSE. It had been picked over. The one over on Silom, maybe the same size, but much better offerings on a late Sunday afternoon. And they had Bavarian cream (with the chocolate top) that was nowhere to be seen last year. 32 baht per, or 8 for 100 baht (better deal, Thai country families are large).

[QUOTE=StarSheriff;2870179]I am now already in Bangkok, and as I am busy until next weekend I could meet and monger in the evenings during the week.

As I am short time here I would like to hang around with other monger (s) who knows the city and culture, with whom I could go in some clubs and see what happens.

Please PM.[/QUOTE]Way back when, there were some offerings of paid guided tours for newbies. Could never see the reason myself. A bit of reading here, take some notes, and blaze your own trail. That's part of the fun, personal discovery. Guided tours, nahhhhh. About the only time I've been an [I]escort[/I] were when Thai friends wanted to enter Nana but couldn't unless [I]accompanied[/I]. For some real fun with [i]benefits[/i], pull a girl from a bar, pay the bar fine and have HER show you around... Talk about [b]LOCAL[/b] experience... And don't worry, she'll want to go just to check out the competition and other work environments... And she'll run interference for any scams as she wants you to keep your money in your pocket, so that there's more for her...

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2870059]I did all the research for you:

Billboard 700 Bar, 4000 girl, pay the Mamasan first. Fabulous quality last night.

Geisha 1000 Bar, 3000 girl. Pay the girl. Again, great quality.

Rainbow 5 1000 Bar, 3000 girl, pay the girl, make sure you deal with the waitresses or Mamasan, so so quality.

Bunny's 1000 Bar 3000 girl, pay Mamasan. Decent quality.

Twister: too skeezy to ask.

I was told specifically by two Mamasans that the entire complex may go to Mamasan collections to protect the girls from non payers. Without making any judgements as to the truth, "Indian man not pay girl" was what I was told.

My cute bar fine last night (So cute I had to have her) told me that Mamasans are screening customers because "China man bad to girl".

There are three in Billboard I must have, and two in Rainbow 5, and one in Bunnys. Off to Cambo first to get my Visa finalized.[/QUOTE]Good concise intel. How times change. Guess the days of pay [B]AFTER[/B] are gone; shame, the pay AFTER was an oft recited mantra. But I can see the reasons and that happens in a number of countries and why certain nationalities are [I]frowned[/I] on and even not welcome, so really not so weird. You talk to the girls basically anywhere and they'll tell you the reasons.

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2870193]I can't imagine what's going thru Mr Newtons mind. His hero is Writing about Dunkin Donuts 🍩. Is this how much Bangkok has fallen.
[/QUOTE]Maybe they'll be hiring some Russian girls soon!

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2870193]I can't imagine what's going thru Mr Newtons mind. His hero is Writing about Dunkin Donuts 🍩. Is this how much Bangkok has fallen.

My answer to above is HELL YEAH.

I got nothing but School Girl to report on.[/QUOTE]School girl was out tonight.

Why nis bandwidth being wasted on Dunkin Donuts. Why are Dunkin Donuts even relevant in Thailand.

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2870233]Good concise intel. How times change. Guess the days of pay [B]AFTER[/B] are gone; shame, the pay AFTER was an oft recited mantra. But I can see the reasons and that happens in a number of countries and why certain nationalities are [I]frowned[/I] on and even not welcome, so really not so weird. You talk to the girls basically anywhere and they'll tell you the reasons.[/QUOTE]Can Mr. Ny. Identify which Nana Bar Indian s are Barfining at?

I don't see many indian s at Rainbow 4 and 5. Usually they don't get past security. 😂.

I'll come clean. I'm not Indian. 😂.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2870059]I did all the research for you:

Billboard 700 Bar, 4000 girl, pay the Mamasan first. Fabulous quality last night.

Geisha 1000 Bar, 3000 girl. Pay the girl. Again, great quality.

Rainbow 5 1000 Bar, 3000 girl, pay the girl, make sure you deal with the waitresses or Mamasan, so so quality.

Bunny's 1000 Bar 3000 girl, pay Mamasan. Decent quality.

Twister: too skeezy to ask.

I was told specifically by two Mamasans that the entire complex may go to Mamasan collections to protect the girls from non payers. Without making any judgements as to the truth, "Indian man not pay girl" was what I was told.

My cute bar fine last night (So cute I had to have her) told me that Mamasans are screening customers because "China man bad to girl".

There are three in Billboard I must have, and two in Rainbow 5, and one in Bunnys. Off to Cambo first to get my Visa finalized.[/QUOTE]Aside from the ridiculous pricing, the pay before is simply insane. So whose not paying? This was a negligible issue when I moved to BKK in 99. Never heard of people not paying. Guess we have a different punter demographic these days.
And I just can't believe people are paying this kind of money for Isaan farmer's daughters. For that type of money I'd expect a girl I could have a decent conversation with, take out to a restaurant where she could appreciate the food, etc. honestly I've never seen a go-go girl worth more than 1.5 to 2k, and for that I'd expect more than a wham bam thank you ma'am. I guess the current group of punters are just not demanding enough.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2870263]Why nis bandwidth being wasted on Dunkin Donuts. Why are Dunkin Donuts even relevant in Thailand.[/QUOTE]Guess if you have a metered connection, bandwidth might be an issue. Or are you still using dialup? Certainly not on the server side. And some of us just might want to have something sweet with our coffee after a morning wakeup, and don't you offer your guest a pastry with her coffee?

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2870335]Aside from the ridiculous pricing, the pay before is simply insane. So whose not paying? This was a negligible issue when I moved to BKK in 99. Never heard of people not paying. Guess we have a different punter demographic these days.
And I just can't believe people are paying this kind of money for Isaan farmer's daughters. For that type of money I'd expect a girl I could have a decent conversation with, take out to a restaurant where she could appreciate the food, etc. honestly I've never seen a go-go girl worth more than 1.5 to 2k, and for that I'd expect more than a wham bam thank you ma'am. I guess the current group of punters are just not demanding enough.[/QUOTE]
Seems to be a growing trend. I was quite surprised (and, I'll be honest, a little bit hurt) when someone I [i]knew[/i] from last year asked for money [b]before[/b] last week. Just contradictory to ALL my learnings... but not enough to nix the [i]experience[/i] as I do [i]know[/i] (biblical sense) her. Do I really need a haircut that bad?

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2870335]Aside from the ridiculous pricing, the pay before is simply insane. So whose not paying? This was a negligible issue when I moved to BKK in 99. Never heard of people not paying. Guess we have a different punter demographic these days.
And I just can't believe people are paying this kind of money for Isaan farmer's daughters. For that type of money I'd expect a girl I could have a decent conversation with, take out to a restaurant where she could appreciate the food, etc. honestly I've never seen a go-go girl worth more than 1.5 to 2k, and for that I'd expect more than a wham bam thank you ma'am. I guess the current group of punters are just not demanding enough.[/QUOTE]It's not 1999.

In the year 19999 I bought a rinky dinky condo for $72,000. Now it's approaching $300,000.

Grasp the concept People.

In 1999 My 🍟 man made $5. 69. Now the same same fries 🍟 man is pushing $25.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2870335]Aside from the ridiculous pricing, the pay before is simply insane. So whose not paying? This was a negligible issue when I moved to BKK in 99. Never heard of people not paying. Guess we have a different punter demographic these days.
And I just can't believe people are paying this kind of money for Isaan farmer's daughters. For that type of money I'd expect a girl I could have a decent conversation with, take out to a restaurant where she could appreciate the food, etc. honestly I've never seen a go-go girl worth more than 1.5 to 2k, and for that I'd expect more than a wham bam thank you ma'am. I guess the current group of punters are just not demanding enough.[/QUOTE]Gets even better.

After the deed is done, they go back, punch back into the bar, and look for a bar fine fine again.

It's way not the old days anymore.

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2870317]Can Mr. Ny. Identify which Nana Bar Indian s are Barfining at?

I don't see many indian s at Rainbow 4 and 5. Usually they don't get past security. 😂.

I'll come clean. I'm not Indian. 😂.[/QUOTE]I can't identify any bars which are a problem or not for Indian people. I'm really not a big fan of at the Go-Go bars for the reasons that goat set forth. I've only barfined a girl on two occasions this entire year. The whole process is annoying. And quite frankly, I think it's a ripoff, but every once in awhile during my travels a siren calls to me and I end up on the rocks.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2870335]And I just can't believe people are paying this kind of money for Isaan farmer's daughters. For that type of money I'd expect a girl I could have a decent conversation with, take out to a restaurant where she could appreciate the food, etc. honestly I've never seen a go-go girl worth more than 1.5 to 2k, and for that I'd expect more than a wham bam thank you ma'am. I guess the current group of punters are just not demanding enough.[/QUOTE]You've been spoiled by all these years living in Bangkok, with pussy available everywhere and everyday.

You think guys coming from a sex prison country really care that she cannot hold a conversation? What they want is her body, at that point these guys don't care she is an Isaan farmer's daughter.

And as we read it often here, they usually say it's still cheaper than where they're coming from, so they go for it.

It's very clear the gogo system is not for everyone anymore, it's getting very expensive.

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2870233]Good concise intel. [/QUOTE]Well that's the way it should be, innit? I don't think folks are interested in my search for the ultimate cheap cookie, or how I got my toes manicured or my blow by blow description of me getting my nose hairs trimmed, or me bragging about how smart I am with lots of [B] bold [/B].

Its not about me is it? My life is complete enough to not have the need to broadcast the mundane aspects of same to the world.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2870335]Aside from the ridiculous pricing, the pay before is simply insane. So whose not paying? This was a negligible issue when I moved to BKK in 99. Never heard of people not paying. [b]Guess we have a different punter demographic these days[/b]....[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2870374]..[b]Seems to be a growing trend.[/b] I was quite surprised (and, I'll be honest, a little bit hurt) when someone I [i]knew[/i] from last year asked for money [b]before[/b] last week. Just contradictory to ALL my learnings..[/QUOTE]Oh most definitely a [B]different punter demographic[/B] these days. I noticed it my first visit back to Nana after Covid. Some of my regulars have told me of this as well. It seems to be a post Covid thing. Behaviors have changed since Covid in America, more rudeness as if that was even possible.

Look at some of the demeaning posts on this forum in the last years. One has a bad experience, we don't use words that demean women or the Thai race but the [B]different punter demographic[/B] set definitely does. It is just a bad experience with one person. That can happen in any business anywhere in the world. It has nothing to do with ethnicity or sex.

[B]Be polite guys. [/B] It is easy. Please. [B]Thailand is paradise for us[/B]. Keep it that way.

p.s. Bravo, get a haircut, you dirty hippy. lol

Anyone know of any [B]pregnant[/B] or [B]lactating[/B] providers in BKK? Bucket list thing. I will be there next week.
I am a respectful guy and always nice to my providers. I will meet you at a pool hall if you want to make sure you can recommend me.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2870335]Aside from the ridiculous pricing, the pay before is simply insane. So whose not paying? This was a negligible issue when I moved to BKK in 99. Never heard of people not paying. Guess we have a different punter demographic these days.
And I just can't believe people are paying this kind of money for Isaan farmer's daughters. For that type of money I'd expect a girl I could have a decent conversation with, take out to a restaurant where she could appreciate the food, etc. honestly I've never seen a go-go girl worth more than 1.5 to 2k, and for that I'd expect more than a wham bam thank you ma'am. I guess the current group of punters are just not demanding enough.[/QUOTE]Some punters who don't pay after the girl is in the room and maybe even after they are naked in their bed are the ones who "go with the flow", negotiate nothing upfront and then discover they are going to get nothing they wanted in the first place. It isn't necessarily that the dude got everything from the girl and then sent her packing with only taxi fare. It is also sometimes the case that the girl gave him nothing but "her time" after he paid the barfine and took her to his room and that is why he sent her packing with only taxi fare. If that much.

But that isn't what the girl is going to tell the mamasan and all of her co-workers in the bar.

In fact, I am one of those punters who feels that unless I have negotiated every factor important to me upfront, that is DFK, BBBJ, BBFS+CIP, No Rushing and No Hurry, and gotten a clear Yes to the program, the girl has every right to say No to any of it without my paying her less than the fairly well understood going rate for "her time". For go-go and beer bar girls let's say 2,500 - 3,000 baht.

That's right. In my opinion I have no standing to send any bargirl packing with only taxi fare or less because she didn't deliver any sex-related behavior or service that she did not agree to do upfront before I paid the barfine and took her.

Which is why I do negotiate those things upfront with a bargirl and "go with the flow" only under rare circumstances.

But there are other punters who don't see it that way.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2870538]I have negotiated every factor important to me upfront, that is DFK, BBBJ, BBFS+CIP, No Rushing and No Hurry,[/QUOTE]Your approach is the correct one if BBFS is involved. However, I demand all of the above other than BBFSCIP so there is no need to negotiate the other things in Pattaya since those are a given. The exception are the soapies but you don't get to talk to the girls beforehand anyways. In BKK, Thermae girls are the issue. I'm not sure how you do all that negotiation in Thermae with girls on either side of her under a foot away. I'm sure a lot of girls give you dirty looks at Thermae when you're not looking.

I take your approach when it comes to some girls even getting a LD. I tell them DFK and mutual groping (HJ under shorts in a dirtier gogo bar or Soi 6) and my time expectations. I'm a Cheap Charlie so I expect a lot for my 200+ baht LD.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2870615]Your approach is the correct one if BBFS is involved. However, I demand all of the above other than BBFSCIP so there is no need to negotiate the other things in Pattaya since those are a given. The exception are the soapies but you don't get to talk to the girls beforehand anyways. In BKK, Thermae girls are the issue. I'm not sure how you do all that negotiation in Thermae with girls on either side of her under a foot away. I'm sure a lot of girls give you dirty looks at Thermae when you're not looking.

I take your approach when it comes to some girls even getting a LD. I tell them DFK and mutual groping (HJ under shorts in a dirtier gogo bar or Soi 6) and my time expectations. I'm a Cheap Charlie so I expect a lot for my 200+ baht LD.[/QUOTE]"A given"? Hmm. OK. Who says so?

Yes, requesting anything upfront from a Thermae girl standing shoulder to shoulder in a line up is sure to get a negative response even if she routinely gives everything in the room to anyone without hesitation. That's why I consider Thermae to be one of the worst mongering options for those of us who have requirements beyond the girl popping open her legs to endure 10 minutes of fully covered coitus for 3,000 baht.

But it can and has been done. Whispering the scariest parts like DFK, BBBJ and, for sure, BBFS+CIP works sometimes. Typing it out on Google Translate and showing her, only her, the screen. Then you wait for her shriek and collapse in the line up. All the other girls can guess what she just read before fainting. LOL. Maybe BBBJ+CIM is an even scarier and more impossible to imagine thought for a 3,000 baht Thermae girl. Not sure.

I honestly suspect the main reason river's of (overwhelmingly Asian) customers circle the bar and then 99.9% of them walk out alone is because discussing anything important about the session is so uncomfortable in that place and nothing to do with all of the girls being unsuitable for fucking on a given night.

I have on occasion taken a Thermae girl without discussing any of those things. My relatively rare "go with the flow" experiences. Probably 15 different times over the years. Not one was worth the time or money. But hope springs eternal. It's a 2,500 - 3,000 baht gamble and I have certainly wasted more time and money than that on a "go with the flow" bet.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2870447]Well that's the way it should be, innit? I don't think folks are interested in my search for the ultimate cheap cookie, or how I got my toes manicured or my blow by blow description of me getting my nose hairs trimmed, or me bragging about how smart I am with lots of [B] bold [/B].

Its not about me is it? My life is complete enough to not have the need to broadcast the mundane aspects of same to the world.[/QUOTE]I could use some recommendations on where to find good Mayonnaise to put on my Baloney Sammich. Maybe Mr 11 B could a fella out. No Kraft Brand please. I want Exotic Hot Mayo.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2870538]In fact, I am one of those punters who feels that unless I have negotiated every factor important to me upfront, that is DFK, BBBJ, BBFS+CIP, No Rushing and No Hurry, and gotten a clear Yes to the program, the girl has every right to say No to any of it without my paying her less than the fairly well understood going rate for "her time". For go-go and beer bar girls let's say 2,500 - 3,000 baht.

That's right. In my opinion I have no standing to send any bargirl packing with only taxi fare or less because she didn't deliver any sex-related behavior or service that she did not agree to do upfront before I paid the barfine and took her.

Which is why I do negotiate those things upfront with a bargirl and "go with the flow" only under rare circumstances.[/QUOTE]Well said. Punting 101.

I've said it many times in many climes: specify YOUR menu desires, find out HER menu, determine if it matches, ask yourself if you can accept any missing [I]appetizers[/I] or even a different [I]main course[/I], and agree to it, including price, [B]BEFORE[/B] leaving. NO wishful thinking about any missing items that might appear later, and no reneging on the bill. For me, if she doesn't deliver everything agreed to, OK, her decision, I pay the full price, I just NEVER repeat. For those who do deliver... added to the pitching rotation. For the few where I've decided to go [i]pot luck[/i], I still have an agreed to price [b]BEFORE[/b] leaving which IS paid.

Ok, so I RTFF and had no luck on this, so. Please advise: where can I watch a hot girl get on her knees and suck a guy off? I'm thinking perhaps AfterSkool or Toy Bar and sit strategically to watch the action, but perhaps there's a better, more guaranteed option! All advice much appreciated.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2870538]In fact, I am one of those punters who feels that unless I have negotiated every factor important to me upfront, that is DFK, BBBJ, BBFS+CIP, No Rushing and No Hurry, and gotten a clear Yes to the program, the girl has every right to say No to any of it without my paying her less than the fairly well understood going rate for "her time". For go-go and beer bar girls let's say 2,500 - 3,000 baht.[/QUOTE]In bars where I know mama, I tend to have mama prescreen girls for me and then I give her a decent tip, last time 200 baht plus a drink. Last week I returned to TLOS for the first time in 7 months and my favorite mama spotted me outside a bar where I've never seen her before. Mama welcomes me with the sweetest words ever "I already have one for you". She brings me to the girl, who is exactly my type, and makes the introduction. Upon my approval, mama confirms all my terms, bar fine is paid, and we are off for the best session ever. Next time I see that mama I'll remind her of the girl she recommended and give her an extra tip.

I know most punters think mamasans are all worthless pains in the ass, but they know their girls and they can match you appropriately, but you must tip them and get to know them. Unfortunately, I only know 2 Nana Plaza mamas well enough to trust their pre screening. Of course, this method won't work for Cheap Charlie.

[QUOTE=TKOman;2870726]Ok, so I RTFF and had no luck on this, so. Please advise: where can I watch a hot girl get on her knees and suck a guy off? I'm thinking perhaps AfterSkool or Toy Bar and sit strategically to watch the action, but perhaps there's a better, more guaranteed option! All advice much appreciated.[/QUOTE]Come down to Pattaya and visit Maggie Mays, Club fate, or Catalpas. This shit goes on all the time right at the bar.

[QUOTE=TKOman;2870726]Ok, so I RTFF and had no luck on this, so. Please advise: where can I watch a hot girl get on her knees and suck a guy off? I'm thinking perhaps AfterSkool or Toy Bar and sit strategically to watch the action, but perhaps there's a better, more guaranteed option! All advice much appreciated.[/QUOTE]I visit BjBars everyday when I am in BKK and my few trips to Pattaya. I have only found one place where this happens. Carre Blanc LE Club (Bang Lamung) I have been sucked off twice in this place in front of huge crowds of mongers and providers, maybe 20+ the first time, less the 2nd time. My wife likes to do shows in front of swing club crowds so it is right down my alley.

The first time I did it, it was a dare with the mamassan. She said that one of her women could deep throat any man. She was sort of talking to everyone. I think she was trying to get the place going. I told her that I had never seen that done successfully on me. (I have a big penis but not that big. It is more the way it is built, really thick at the business end.) Some back and forth, she says to me "you pay only if she is successful". Back and forth teasing. So woman #1 comes over and gives it a try right at the bar, in front of everyone and it is not going to happen but it is fun. Then some other woman comes over out of the crowd and says "let me" and the two women go at it together which I am loving especially in front of a crowd. Sexy. Good bjs but no deepthroat. I am good naturedly teasing the mamassan. "I told you so. " She says something along the lines, "Oh fuck this" and comes out from behind the bar and starts going at it. She came closer but no cigar. LOL It was fun. Guys started disappearing behind curtains so I guess it all worked. I chose the number #1 woman and got a fabulous slow, sexy BJ behind some classy curtains. The place looks like a classy swing club. The only problem is that it is all the way down in Pattaya. I prefer BKK, Sukhothai, Chiang Mai, Hua Hin, Phitsinulok type places. Bjs and culture. LOL. I did volunteer to pay for the three bjs. I am not cheap charlie.
Be nice guys.


[B]11Bravo[/B] made a recommendation on a place on a previous page. I am going to try it out next week when I am back in BKK. Will report. Maybe you can try it first?

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2870691]I could use some recommendations on where to find good Mayonnaise to put on my Baloney Sammich. Maybe Mr 11 B could a fella out. No Kraft Brand please. I want Exotic Hot Mayo.[/QUOTE]Sorry, no can do; there's not enough mayo in all of Thailand to cover all your balony. But it is a free forum, so have fun.

Shout out to [B]Newton York[/B], last year's intel still helpful, as was she.

[B]Bunky[/B], kudo's on your "Taking Pity on the New Guy" and "Geography Lesson" posts. I don't keep up with the forum much unless I'm BOTG, but tracking some of yours made me smile. No DEROS, just AO change.

[B]AmPervert[/B] Private during the afternoons, you have the run of the place yourself. Two words: Rugby Scrum (ring the bell and enjoy).

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2870862]In bars where I know mama, I tend to have mama prescreen girls for me and then I give her a decent tip, last time 200 baht plus a drink. Last week I returned to TLOS for the first time in 7 months and my favorite mama spotted me outside a bar where I've never seen her before. Mama welcomes me with the sweetest words ever "I already have one for you". She brings me to the girl, who is exactly my type, and makes the introduction. Upon my approval, mama confirms all my terms, bar fine is paid, and we are off for the best session ever. Next time I see that mama I'll remind her of the girl she recommended and give her an extra tip.

I know most punters think mamasans are all worthless pains in the ass, but they know their girls and they can match you appropriately, but you must tip them and get to know them. Unfortunately, I only know 2 Nana Plaza mamas well enough to trust their pre screening. Of course, this method won't work for Cheap Charlie.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, not all Mamasans are as well informed, helpful and useful as others. Especially with regard to BBFS+CIP, you might find many if not most who will either recoil in horror at the very idea or shrug and blather a meaningless, "up to the girl. " Yeah. We know. So is everything else. Aren't you supposed to be the one who knows something related to this business about your girls? LOL. Useless for saving time and money zeroing in on the serious players.

However, we still must ask the Mamasans to do something for their pay. And when you find one or two who will bring you a gem who will, not might, will rock your world doing exactly what you were looking for, reward her with at least a tip or drink or both as you described.

[QUOTE=TKOman;2870726] Please advise: where can I watch a hot girl get on her knees and suck a guy off? [/QUOTE]In your hotel room?

Let me first say I could not get to her. But I saw her. WOW. Slim girl with super tight body, slim but not skinny, perky smallish tits with no silly, long straight black hair, lips. Lips seemed real although big for a Thai. Damn. Didn't have time to pursue her as she got tangled up in the hands of a couple of guys. Seems she was in the midst of getting her teeth aligned, so teeth were not on display this time.

Examined 100's of candidate girls so far but none of them can match this girl. Wish our schedule matches next time I see her.

If anyone has intel on her, let me know. I don't think CH has more than one of this quality. When you see her, you know it's her.

Mr Nye and Me.

How about we go tag team Nana Schoolgirl and ask if we can get the 2 man East Asian discount. Like the Commander and his PAL.

P.S. We would be with her seperately not at the same time.

[QUOTE=BHawk;2870941]Let me first say I could not get to her. But I saw her. WOW. Slim girl with super tight body, slim but not skinny, perky smallish tits with no silly, long straight black hair, lips. Lips seemed real although big for a Thai. Damn. Didn't have time to pursue her as she got tangled up in the hands of a couple of guys. Seems she was in the midst of getting her teeth aligned, so teeth were not on display this time.

Examined 100's of candidate girls so far but none of them can match this girl. Wish our schedule matches next time I see her.

If anyone has intel on her, let me know. I don't think CH has more than one of this quality. When you see her, you know it's her.[/QUOTE]Do they still have a no INDIANs policy?

[QUOTE=AmPervert;2870491]Anyone know of any [B]pregnant[/B] or [B]lactating[/B] providers in BKK? Bucket list thing. I will be there next week.
I am a respectful guy and always nice to my providers. I will meet you at a pool hall if you want to make sure you can recommend me.[/QUOTE]Avarice Soi 6 Pattaya. I'm pretty sure she is a few months along. Although I could be wrong she could be FAT. Might not be her 1st rodeo as she isn't a YOUNG un.

Going to Bangkok in January. Anyone have experience with outcall Cbody?

Ok, it's about time to do a field report! My recent experiences (good, bad and ugly):

1. I tried an outcall "massage" place for the first time, called Sanae. Easy to find online, and communication via Line was a dream. I picked "Anitta" who arrived promptly at my place and looked exactly like her pictures. Her massage skills were fair and she explained she learned massage from YouTube! Haha. She provided a topless handjob finish (grip a bit too tight but I was able to complete by shooting onto her tits) and total cost, including tip, was 2000 B. Would repeat due to the overall ease of experience.

2. Visited Ruean Thai massage shop on Soi Ari (Suk 26) and was enticed in by a skinny, smiling girl named Aom who made up for her average looks with a good attitude. She delivered good conversation, a decent fully naked massage, some BB sucking and big messy finish with a good HJ. 1700 B. I might see her again to fuck her trimmed and tight-looking pussy.

3. Decided against my better instincts to try a beer bar on Soi 22 called Phoenix. The name should have been a clue. Barfined the only girl worth considering: a cute 24 year old girl name Poppy who, despite agreeing to my specific requests while at the bar, advised me it was "not possible" upon arrival at my room! I took her straight back to the bar where the mamasan refused to assist. It appears the whole bar is run on a scam to extract 600 B barfines with no intent to deliver. Avoid this place.

Best of luck out there!

[QUOTE=AmPervert;2870881]
[B]11Bravo[/B] made a recommendation on a place on a previous page. I am going to try it out next week when I am back in BKK. Will report. Maybe you can try it first?[/QUOTE]I'm happy to help out!

What's the name of the place to try? I looked on the forum but no luck finding the specific post.

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2871024]Mr Nye and Me.

How about we go tag team Nana Schoolgirl and ask if we can get the 2 man East Asian discount. Like the Commander and his PAL.

P.S. We would be with her seperately not at the same time.[/QUOTE]Can't do it mate. MiniYezh would hide so deep inside that I would truly be a dickhead.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2870908]Unfortunately, not all Mamasans are as well informed, helpful and useful as others. Especially with regard to BBFS+CIP, you might find many if not most who will either recoil in horror at the very idea or shrug and blather a meaningless, "up to the girl. " Yeah. We know.[/QUOTE]Last week one mama pointed out girls who did BBFS, but mama said "all must finish outside". I've never seen mama recoil in horror, she has heard it all before. The "horror" reaction has been reserved for direct talks with the girls.

I feel better about making arrangements through mama. That way there are 3 people who know the agreement and it cuts down the chances of new rules or safety lectures in the room.

[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2870914]In your hotel room?[/QUOTE]I was going to say in my condo, he can pick the girl.

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2871027]Avarice Soi 6 Pattaya. I'm pretty sure she is a few months along. Although I could be wrong she could be FAT. Might not be her 1st rodeo as she isn't a YOUNG un.[/QUOTE]Damn! I knew I should have left a window open for Pattaya. LOL Thanks Raj Patela. I am tempted to skip Ayuthaya and see a different temple. LOL.

Nana Schoolgirl was Tweaking. She couldn't stand Upright. Her eyes were Glazy. Not sure if she was drooling. Must have been a Crazy Customer.

#96: was looking Exceptional. She was outside so I didn't have to go in. Lollipop s. Of the 3 bars Rainbow 4 n5 and Lolly's she was by far the Hottest. Total of 175 girls.

I deduct. 25 points, she could use a few pounds to achieve Ultimate Hotness Status.

Rainbow 5 pointy nose girl has moved to Rainbow 4. Not bad looks but her Deameanor just Not Good. Let's all wish her well.

Thermae girls are independents so they can act out bad attitudes with no restraints. I have seen them giving dirty looks and shit talks to Euro guys. It's not worth dealing with hookers with haughty attitudes who think and act like they are high-class women.

I was in Billboard and Rainbow in Nana Plaza this month. Guys would buy $5 LDs and just sit and talk with bar girls in their broken monkey English. There was no closeness, touching, groping, poking. They were very chaste.

In Tijuana's Hong Kong club, guys buy a $10 LD most times can do DFK, mutual squeezing, groping, grinding in the middle of the club. Girls would rub, grope, grind on guys to get them aroused enough, could not resist, have to pay for sessions in the hotel. Happened to me a few times, got way aroused by hot girls touching even tired after multiple sessions.

I had girls sitting with me in HK's dark secluded spots. We were DFKing, mutually groping under the clothes, I was toying with her clit until she got drenching wet and exploded in an O. A new wingman was shocked and embarrassed of our public display of passion hehe.

Other guys claimed to have had BBBJ, one even BBFS in Chicago Club. I have seen Chicago's hot young girls take out guys' dicks and do BBBJ in the middle of the club. I had my fingers up hot girls' wet and warm pussies many times in Chicago Club.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2871247]Thermae girls are independents so they can act out bad attitudes with no restraints. I have seen them giving dirty looks and shit talks to Euro guys. It's not worth dealing with hookers with haughty attitudes who think and act like they are high-class women.[/QUOTE]And for many of the girls, it's not worth it for them to deal with unattractive mongers with arrogant and misogynistic attitudes who think and act like they are high class men instead of just gutter crawling perverts.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2871247]Thermae girls are independents so they can act out bad attitudes with no restraints. I have seen them giving dirty looks and shit talks to Euro guys. It's not worth dealing with hookers with haughty attitudes who think and act like they are high-class women.

I was in Billboard and Rainbow in Nana Plaza this month. Guys would buy $5 LDs and just sit and talk with bar girls in their broken monkey English. There was no closeness, touching, groping, poking. They were very chaste.

In Tijuana's Hong Kong club, guys buy a $10 LD most times can do DFK, mutual squeezing, groping, grinding in the middle of the club. Girls would rub, grope, grind on guys to get them aroused enough, could not resist, have to pay for sessions in the hotel. Happened to me a few times, got way aroused by hot girls touching even tired after multiple sessions.

I had girls sitting with me in HK's dark secluded spots. We were DFKing, mutually groping under the clothes, I was toying with her clit until she got drenching wet and exploded in an O. A new wingman was shocked and embarrassed of our public display of passion hehe.

Other guys claimed to have had BBBJ, one even BBFS in Chicago Club. I have seen Chicago's hot young girls take out guys' dicks and do BBBJ in the middle of the club. I had my fingers up hot girls' wet and warm pussies many times in Chicago Club.[/QUOTE]I have been to Thermae Girls multiple times. I agree with you that some girls there have attitudes. But have you ever wondered why they would do such a thing when they don't do it to everyone else? They are FREELANCERS. Which means they can refuse anyone. Girls in HK and Chicago are more of an employee than a freelancer. They will fuck you if you pay them. Maybe you are just not accustomed to being turned down even if you pay them and sounds like you should stay away from Thailand altogether and just go to Tijuana.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2871247]Thermae girls are independents so they can act out bad attitudes with no restraints. I have seen them giving dirty looks and shit talks to Euro guys. It's not worth dealing with hookers with haughty attitudes who think and act like they are high-class women.

I was in Billboard and Rainbow in Nana Plaza this month. Guys would buy $5 LDs and just sit and talk with bar girls in their broken monkey English. There was no closeness, touching, groping, poking. They were very chaste.

In Tijuana's Hong Kong club, guys buy a $10 LD most times can do DFK, mutual squeezing, groping, grinding in the middle of the club. Girls would rub, grope, grind on guys to get them aroused enough, could not resist, have to pay for sessions in the hotel. Happened to me a few times, got way aroused by hot girls touching even tired after multiple sessions.

I had girls sitting with me in HK's dark secluded spots. We were DFKing, mutually groping under the clothes, I was toying with her clit until she got drenching wet and exploded in an O. A new wingman was shocked and embarrassed of our public display of passion hehe.

Other guys claimed to have had BBBJ, one even BBFS in Chicago Club. I have seen Chicago's hot young girls take out guys' dicks and do BBBJ in the middle of the club. I had my fingers up hot girls' wet and warm pussies many times in Chicago Club.[/QUOTE]Yeah, the entire scene is so different than it was when a first moved to Bangkok about a quarter of a century ago. Thermae was very interactive then and you would walk around the place and gals would grab your unit and be extra flirtatious and interactive. Same was true of the bars. I remember my first night in Bangkok sitting in long gun and within 10 minutes I was locked in a DFK and heavy petting session. I believe the change in the girls behavior went hand in hand with the change of punter demographics. Our East Asian brethren prefer girls to be not as aggressive and really shun public displays of affection unless it is in a bar specific for that task. I've not been impressed with Themae in well over a decade. Back in the early 00's I would pull two to three times a week from the place. Never discussed price, it was always 1 K, and sometimes didn't even get the girl's name till the deed was done. Another fun fact is the gals all talked about the regular punters so many times you take a gal and even though you hadn't been with her before she would know what you were into. Good times.

I found most Thermea women below average in looks and manners, but was never turned down by them. If anyone turns me down I just move on to the next ones. Always had good sexy times with a few nice, pretty ones.

I saw a bunch of them talk rough with nasty, disgusted expressions when a couple Western guys, may be Euro or Americano, walked into the place separately. They may have known those guys in the past, but nice people would never show ugly expressions like those in public without cause. I found ugly expressions only with Thermae women. Girls in bars, on streets, on line, escorts ect have all been very nice and sweet, except a few transsexuals.

Bar girls in Tijuana are not employees but are independent contractors. They do what they please. They do turn down lots of guys for drinks or sex by age, looks, dress, manners ect. They can call security over to throw out or ban guys who cop free feels, or act rude to them. Happened to my wingman and many guys. A regular client I know has the bad habit of bullshitting girls about his infatuation and love for them. A woman got pissed off with his bullshit, claimed he abused her and had the guy banned from the club.

HK knows the girls are the main attractions that bring in clients. They treat the girls very well as their main assets with flexible work rules and relaxed work atmosphere.

I had good sexy times in both Tijuana and Bangkok.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2871369]...Thermae...independent contractors. [/QUOTE]Some form of [b]Empowerment.[/b] We should encourage this. I stay out of the clubs that seem as though they have farm girls who have been sold a bright, shining city bill of goods or are somehow in debt.
I like the women that control what they are doing. [B]Their bodies, their choice[/B] even if you don't like that choice!
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2871369]...Happened to my wingman and many guys. A regular client I know has the bad habit....[/QUOTE]
You need to dump some wingmen. lol

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2871339]And for many of the girls, it's not worth it for them to deal with unattractive mongers with arrogant and misogynistic attitudes who think and act like they are high class men instead of just gutter crawling perverts.[/QUOTE]Absolutely. Guys who are rejected at Thermae always come on here saying Thermae girls only want Japanese and Koreans. Not true. Been to Thermae with happy go lucky Farang and they have a blast. Been to Thermae with guys who don't smile and then I hear they didn't want me. Well who would with that grumpy look on your face? Been to Thermae with guys who don't know how to properly talk to a girl. Again I hear that Thermae girls only want Asians. I'm not even close to Brad Pitt in looks but I know how to smile and charm a girl in her early 20's. Learn that and you will do just fine at Thermae and every other venue in Thailand. Thermae girls want to enjoy the hour they have to spend with you too.

On this day of thanksgiving I'd like to share what I'm thankful for. I'm thankful for Thailand! It's about the power dynamics. That's what it's all about ain't it folks? More often than not, I feel like I'm being stamped down, walked all over and just barely getting by. You look at your 401 k, your IRA, paying your shitty mortgage, up to your neck in medical bills, looking back at your miserable life, and you think to yourself, God. Life sucks. But then you go to Thailand, and you realize the chicks you're banging have way more terrible lives than you do. Much more than you could even begin to conceive, cause think about it. Would they really be banging your ugly mug if they had the cash not to? What kind of world exists where opportunities are so lacking, and situations are such that they have to resort to sex to pay the bills? As shitty as my life is, that's why I love Thailand so much, cause when I'm there, I can be reminded of how much worse other people have it. Hence, it's all about the power dynamics. We get pushed around at work, we have to suck up to management, etc. But when we be in Thailand, we hold the cards. Even in Europe, some of the chicks doing this for a living, are better than most of us financially, believe you me. But in Thailand, odds are pretty high, 9 out of 10 chicks there you pay for sex are way worse off than joe average flying in from the states, I'm just saying. We don't want to admit it fellas, but it's a form of poverty tourism. Us throwing our weight around, and for some folks from north America, quite literally fat ass dudes throwing their weight around, hah! The kind of mindset where you're there to gawp at the poor brown people, but be all up in their culture and stuff, but really it's all about just lording it over them. That's why I'm saying fellas. Don't waste your lives. Go to South East Asia. I'm not quite there yet financially, but by God, when I can, believe you me, I will.

How many wars are happening right now? There's so much uncertainty in the world. And here I am counting the days until I can retire near to Thailand. Why can't I risk it all and do it now or soon, I just don't know. Decades and decades of being brainwashed into thinking you need x amount of cash just to get by, when what if, maybe, just maybe you can get by on less? Then again, you don't want to end up like some of them white dudes homeless on the streets of Pattaya. Reports were coming in about them some 10 plus years ago, odds are most of them are dead by now, but then again, there's not many places better than Thailand to die in. I'm thankful for Bangkok! The city that exists for one reason, and one reason only.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2871605]Absolutely. Guys who are rejected at Thermae always come on here saying Thermae girls only want Japanese and Koreans. Not true. Been to Thermae with happy go lucky Farang and they have a blast. Been to Thermae with guys who don't smile and then I hear they didn't want me. Well who would with that grumpy look on your face? Been to Thermae with guys who don't know how to properly talk to a girl. Again I hear that Thermae girls only want Asians. I'm not even close to Brad Pitt in looks but I know how to smile and charm a girl in her early 20's. Learn that and you will do just fine at Thermae and every other venue in Thailand. Thermae girls want to enjoy the hour they have to spend with you too.[/QUOTE]Dude my entire schtick is totally happy old man. I have had girls grab me and say "you are happy man". After money, they want happy.

Happy and fun beats looks and arrogance.

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2871627]On this day of thanksgiving I'd like to share what I'm thankful for. I'm thankful for Thailand! It's about the power dynamics. That's what it's all about ain't it folks? More often than not, I feel like I'm being stamped down, walked all over and just barely getting by. You look at your 401 k, your IRA, paying your shitty mortgage, up to your neck in medical bills, looking back at your miserable life, and you think to yourself, God. Life sucks. But then you go to Thailand, and you realize the chicks you're banging have way more terrible lives than you do. Much more than you could even begin to conceive, cause think about it. Would they really be banging your ugly mug if they had the cash not to? What kind of world exists where opportunities are so lacking, and situations are such that they have to resort to sex to pay the bills? As shitty as my life is, that's why I love Thailand so much, cause when I'm there, I can be reminded of how much worse other people have it. Hence, it's all about the power dynamics. We get pushed around at work, we have to suck up to management, etc. But when we be in Thailand, we hold the cards. Even in Europe, some of the chicks doing this for a living, are better than most of us financially, believe you me. But in Thailand, odds are pretty high, 9 out of 10 chicks there you pay for sex are way worse off than joe average flying in from the states, I'm just saying. We don't want to admit it fellas, but it's a form of poverty tourism. Us throwing our weight around, and for some folks from north America, quite literally fat ass dudes throwing their weight around, hah! The kind of mindset where you're there to gawp at the poor brown people, but be all up in their culture and stuff, but really it's all about just lording it over them. That's why I'm saying fellas. Don't waste your lives. Go to South East Asia. I'm not quite there yet financially, but by God, when I can, believe you me, I will.

How many wars are happening right now? There's so much uncertainty in the world. And here I am counting the days until I can retire near to Thailand. Why can't I risk it all and do it now or soon, I just don't know. Decades and decades of being brainwashed into thinking you need x amount of cash just to get by, when what if, maybe, just maybe you can get by on less? Then again, you don't want to end up like some of them white dudes homeless on the streets of Pattaya. Reports were coming in about them some 10 plus years ago, odds are most of them are dead by now, but then again, there's not many places better than Thailand to die in. I'm thankful for Bangkok! The city that exists for one reason, and one reason only.[/QUOTE]Do you feel better now that you have let it all out?

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2871605]Absolutely. Guys who are rejected at Thermae always come on here saying Thermae girls only want Japanese and Koreans. Not true. Been to Thermae with happy go lucky Farang and they have a blast. Been to Thermae with guys who don't smile and then I hear they didn't want me. Well who would with that grumpy look on your face? Been to Thermae with guys who don't know how to properly talk to a girl. Again I hear that Thermae girls only want Asians. I'm not even close to Brad Pitt in looks but I know how to smile and charm a girl in her early 20's. Learn that and you will do just fine at Thermae and every other venue in Thailand. Thermae girls want to enjoy the hour they have to spend with you too.[/QUOTE]I am as far as you can get from being Asian and whenever I go to Thermae, I never have any issues. Guys go in there with a preconceived idea and that's the experience they end up with. Laws of attraction right? Ya some of the girls prefer Asian guys. So what? Why do they though? I will tell you why. Asian guys don't complain. It's much easier for them. They just tell the guy how much, he accepts or declines and that's it. Not drama. Western guys just go in and talk talk talk talk and drama and conditions and so the girls get bored with having to exercise all that effort.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2871653]I am as far as you can get from being Asian and whenever I go to Thermae, I never have any issues. Guys go in there with a preconceived idea and that's the experience they end up with. Laws of attraction right? Ya some of the girls prefer Asian guys. So what? Why do they though? I will tell you why. Asian guys don't complain. It's much easier for them. They just tell the guy how much, he accepts or declines and that's it. Not drama. Western guys just go in and talk talk talk talk and drama and conditions and so the girls get bored with having to exercise all that effort.[/QUOTE]Last night I saw Nana School berating an old Farang. I think he wanted too much for too little money.

I was in Horror just seeing a potential customer with her. Maybe my Hype ING her did some Good.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2871653]I am as far as you can get from being Asian and whenever I go to Thermae, I never have any issues. Guys go in there with a preconceived idea and that's the experience they end up with. Laws of attraction right? Ya some of the girls prefer Asian guys. So what? Why do they though? I will tell you why. Asian guys don't complain. It's much easier for them. They just tell the guy how much, he accepts or declines and that's it. Not drama. Western guys just go in and talk talk talk talk and drama and conditions and so the girls get bored with having to exercise all that effort.[/QUOTE]I too have never had any negative experiences with Thermae girls or escorts / freelancers in general in Bangkok. I am white, European, over 50, balding and slightly (in my dreams) overweight. I find just a bit of common courtesy, decency and respect goes a long way. Girls suss you out quickly and I find while a lot can be a bit wary at first, we generally end up having a good laugh and chat at the end and they are more than happy to give me their line number for any future 'business' I'd like to give them.

However, serious question, do you guys which more experience (long term local knowledge) think a lot of this 'anti Farang' thing comes from a simple case of the language barrier, in that it's easier a lot of the time for local girls to deal with Asian guys? Or am I simplifying the issue too much?

I don't know why but when I first visited Thailand I mistakenly thought most young Thai's in particular (say under 25 or 30) would have a better standard of English, on reflection I don't know why I assumed that and it's down to my own ignorance. But I still find myself going up to people in restaurants, shops (bars, and clubs) and break into English assuming they'll understand me without even realising I am doing it. Also I find many girls with a basic grasp of English want to communicate but a lot gets lost in translation which can make things awkward and it's so important that we 'Farangs' cop onto that and manage the situation carefully to respect the girls and make sure they always feel comfortable around us. Not forgetting to respect their cultural values.

I know English isn't everyone's first language on this forum, I am just using it as an example.

[QUOTE=RajPatela;2871025]Do they still have a no INDIANs policy?[/QUOTE]Don't know. I was busy checking out girls, not guys. But but of the few I saw I didn't register anything but caucasians and maybe a couple of SE asians.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2871653]Asian guys don't complain. It's much easier for them. They just tell the guy how much, he accepts or declines and that's it.[/QUOTE]I occasionally read that Asian guys don't complain, but I find that hard to believe. About 2 weeks ago I was sitting in Thermae with an Asian friend (I'm farang) while he was scrolling through online options because he was not satisfied with the current lineup at Thermae. His number 1 concern was girl appearance but he also talked about price and service. Seems same as farang to me. Perhaps someone can explain how various posters know that Asian guys don't complain.

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2871627]On this day of thanksgiving I'd like to share what I'm thankful for. I'm thankful for Thailand! And here I am counting the days until I can retire near to Thailand. Why can't I risk it all and do it now or soon, I just don't know. Decades and decades of being brainwashed into thinking you need x amount of cash just to get by, when what if, maybe, just maybe you can get by on less? .[/QUOTE]Oh, Captain! My Captain! LOL Although I like the food and foot massages too. The mini-split ACs are swell too, much better than crappy American hotel ACs.

[QUOTE=PgReal;2871716]I too have never had any negative experiences with Thermae girls or escorts / freelancers in general in Bangkok. I am white, European, over 50, balding and slightly (in my dreams) overweight. I find just a bit of common courtesy, decency and respect goes a long way. Girls suss you out quickly and I find while a lot can be a bit wary at first, we generally end up having a good laugh and chat at the end and they are more than happy to give me their line number for any future 'business' I'd like to give them.

However, serious question, do you guys which more experience (long term local knowledge) think a lot of this 'anti Farang' thing comes from a simple case of the language barrier, in that it's easier a lot of the time for local girls to deal with Asian guys? Or am I simplifying the issue too much?

I don't know why but when I first visited Thailand I mistakenly thought most young Thai's in particular (say under 25 or 30) would have a better standard of English, on reflection I don't know why I assumed that and it's down to my own ignorance. But I still find myself going up to people in restaurants, shops (bars, and clubs) and break into English assuming they'll understand me without even realising I am doing it. Also I find many girls with a basic grasp of English want to communicate but a lot gets lost in translation which can make things awkward and it's so important that we 'Farangs' cop onto that and manage the situation carefully to respect the girls and make sure they always feel comfortable around us. Not forgetting to respect their cultural values.

I know English isn't everyone's first language on this forum, I am just using it as an example.[/QUOTE]I am 70, Caucasian, in fairly good shape, thinning hair but it is still mostly there, speak passable basic Thai and have never gotten a vibe that I could not walk out with any but perhaps the top 5 Asian-Only FLs in Thermae for the going rate at any time. When I approach a cluster of lookers with a smile I get smiles back in response and it is the rare FL in there who does not appear open for take-out discussion.

If BBFS+CIP were not the critical factor in my either having sex or not, Thermae would be an easy go-to venue for a 2,500 - 3,000 baht no brainer P4 P option for me. Well, DFK is going to be a significant if not critical factor too, followed by BBBJ as foreplay. BBBJ+CIM might be an OK alternative for me with the NO to BBFS+CIP girls. But good luck finding a competent version of that among those lazy Thermae P4 P partime hobbiests.

Unfortunately, BBFS+CIP is the critical factor for me. Furthermore, my days of getting the 10 minute Safety First / No Condom No Sex lecture or launching into a fresh new back and forth negotiation for more money with my dick in my hand at the moment of (no) penetraton are over. Therefore, I generally but not 100% of the time clear and settle that critical issue before I take a girl. That is where the smiles, cheerfulness and excitement in the girl about me choosing to take her usually drops like a rock and she bails on the idea. No biggie for me. Whatever. I'll get another attractive girl who will say Yes, no problem. In fact, I often had a half dozen as attractive if not more attractive girls waiting for me to give them the green light to come over to my apartment on any night I stopped in Thermae anyway.

I have no idea why some FLs in Thermae are Asian-Only providers. I seriously doubt it is based on some studied market research and business logic as in this type pays more, that type never complains, this type has smaller equipment, that type is more or less fun and all that. Since when has any decision by a Thai girl been based on studied research and logic? No, my guess is it is simply because the Asian look and demeanor is familiar and more comfortable for them and a Farang encounter is unknown. They only go with Asians because they have only gone with Asians.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2871720]I occasionally read that Asian guys don't complain, but I find that hard to believe. About 2 weeks ago I was sitting in Thermae with an Asian friend (I'm farang) while he was scrolling through online options because he was not satisfied with the current lineup at Thermae. His number 1 concern was girl appearance but he also talked about price and service. Seems same as farang to me. Perhaps someone can explain how various posters know that Asian guys don't complain.[/QUOTE]Meaning they don't complain in the room as much as Western dudes and are likely to accept the service offered and not make a fuss if it's not up to snuff and just move on. They are very picky about looks.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2871605]Absolutely. Guys who are rejected at Thermae always come on here saying Thermae girls only want Japanese and Koreans. Not true. Been to Thermae with happy go lucky Farang and they have a blast. Been to Thermae with guys who don't smile and then I hear they didn't want me. Well who would with that grumpy look on your face? Been to Thermae with guys who don't know how to properly talk to a girl. Again I hear that Thermae girls only want Asians. I'm not even close to Brad Pitt in looks but I know how to smile and charm a girl in her early 20's. Learn that and you will do just fine at Thermae and every other venue in Thailand. Thermae girls want to enjoy the hour they have to spend with you too.[/QUOTE]"Thermae girls want to enjoy the hour they have to spend with you too. ".

Excellent post Banana Boi.

Show me an establishment where majority of girls have Good attitudes I'll show you where to get HOT 1,000 baht girls.

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2871627]...What kind of world exists where opportunities are so lacking, and situations are such that they have to resort to sex to pay the bills?...I can be reminded of how much worse other people have it. Hence, it's all about the power dynamics.....but really it's all about just lording it over them....[/QUOTE]"resort to sex?" "lording it over them?" Yes, we are lucky that we were born in the richest country in the world but it was just luck. What a disrespectful attitude towards women who are providing you with just a small amount of happiness on this planet. I hope if you move to Thailand, you get a better attitude. Life is good. You are very lucky to have a life where you can travel to SE Asia. Don't make it a bad thing for the people in SE Asia who run across you. Smile, be respectful. Be happy and try to spread your happiness to others please. If you enjoy it in BKK (and travel to Siem Reap), you are halfway there man. Look on the bright side. It is brighter. LOL.

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2871627]I'm thankful for Bangkok! The city that exists for one reason, and one reason only. [/QUOTE]As someone mentioned already when you posted this before, Bangkok existed long before any monger found it. There are millions of people working really hard in BKK and they have nothing to do with us or the pleasure industry.

Think of saying that NYC exists just for it's sex industry. In the 80's, sex was truly everywhere in NYC. Paid sex is still easy to find in NYC but is that the reason NYC exists?

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2871757]Meaning they don't complain in the room as much as Western dudes and are likely to accept the service offered and not make a fuss if it's not up to snuff and just move on. They are very picky about looks.[/QUOTE]Farang will go with anyone with a hole. An Asian won't! For most Asians, you have to have a certain look. If you don't have it you ain't getting a second look no matter how cheap you are.

By Asian I'm sure you mean Korean and Japanese and not an American Asian. There is a huge difference. Just like Thailand, Japanese and Korean are taught not to speak out. This is very frowned upon and you are looked down upon for complaining. In the Western world, complaining and bitching about everything under the sun is a way of life. Negativity is the norm. Asians aren't happy about getting crap service just like a Farang. However, they will take the loss and go quickly to the next girl rather than let it ruin their night that they have spent 2500 baht screwing a girl they could NEVER get in real life!

One common mistake for guys in Thermae is when they see a girl back into Thermae after 10 minutes. I hear stuff like oh the Japanese guy came in 3 minutes so the girl is back. Absolutely wrong. The Japanese guy kicked the girl out of his room in 3 minutes or less!

Flags flags flags. Ok only 1 I saw.

I quickly thought it would be Chinese but is was a tour group of old what looked like Scsndies. Minimum age 65 or so.

The Plaza was Heaving with Humanity.

As I walked by you know who I saw she had her dinner with her. As I left the Plaza an 1. 5 hour later she had the same bowl. Leads me to think she didn't move the whole time. Hahaha.

Can any of you stand in the same place for that long.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2871814]Farang will go with anyone with a hole. An Asian won't! For most Asians, you have to have a certain look. If you don't have it you ain't getting a second look no matter how cheap you are.

By Asian I'm sure you mean Korean and Japanese and not an American Asian. There is a huge difference. Just like Thailand, Japanese and Korean are taught not to speak out. This is very frowned upon and you are looked down upon for complaining. In the Western world, complaining and bitching about everything under the sun is a way of life. Negativity is the norm. Asians aren't happy about getting crap service just like a Farang. However, they will take the loss and go quickly to the next girl rather than let it ruin their night that they have spent 2500 baht screwing a girl they could NEVER get in real life!

One common mistake for guys in Thermae is when they see a girl back into Thermae after 10 minutes. I hear stuff like oh the Japanese guy came in 3 minutes so the girl is back. Absolutely wrong. The Japanese guy kicked the girl out of his room in 3 minutes or less![/QUOTE]Last night I saw a Farang feeling up an Ugly Rainbow 5 girl. No Asian would touch her with a 10 foot Pole.

[QUOTE=BeachDrone;2828991]Found a mention of a BJ Bar on Sukhumvit Soi Ari (26) called Madame Claude, billing itself as a "premium BJ bar. " It is said to have reopened this year, and it supposedly has the atmosphere of a 1960's brothel. I have no clue what that is, but the photos look interesting. Any information on this place?[/QUOTE]I went to Madame Claude to see what it is all about. Listed as a BJ Bar, it is more pricey than most of the other BJ bars. And, they have a new menu that has a "massage with sex" option. I prefer older ladies becasue I am older and do not really relate well to the 20-something girls. At the front desk, I was asked to pick a lady from the pictures, asked which was the oldest, and chose her. Then I was asked which "package" I wanted, and chose the massage with sex. I was told that the lady I selected did not massage and another lady, Hana. Hana could easily pass for 22-24 years old, and when she told me she was 42, I was surprised. She is small, with large B breasts and a nice Bush (I love a Bush).

Showered together, then to the bed for what was a pretty good massage was a VERY good. On the flip, she massages legs, works her way up, gets me slightly excuted, then starts a phenomenal BBBJ. OMG. I have never had a BJ so good. Then I returned the favor and went down on her for a long time (I love that, too, especially when the Bush tickles my nose as I'm licking away), the cover went on and we fucked every position. As with so many pros, she really gets into sex. Then we showered together again. It was a very good time, and I tipped her well.

Two good sessions in two days, one Sakuri-Akasuri and one at Madame Claude. Now I'm off to Chiang Mai.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2871814]Farang will go with anyone with a hole. An Asian won't! For most Asians, you have to have a certain look. If you don't have it you ain't getting a second look no matter how cheap you are.

By Asian I'm sure you mean Korean and Japanese and not an American Asian. There is a huge difference. Just like Thailand, Japanese and Korean are taught not to speak out. This is very frowned upon and you are looked down upon for complaining. In the Western world, complaining and bitching about everything under the sun is a way of life. Negativity is the norm. Asians aren't happy about getting crap service just like a Farang. However, they will take the loss and go quickly to the next girl rather than let it ruin their night that they have spent 2500 baht screwing a girl they could NEVER get in real life!

One common mistake for guys in Thermae is when they see a girl back into Thermae after 10 minutes. I hear stuff like oh the Japanese guy came in 3 minutes so the girl is back. Absolutely wrong. The Japanese guy kicked the girl out of his room in 3 minutes or less![/QUOTE]Well it depends, some of us are quite discriminating when it comes to looks. Unfortunately there is an inverse relationship between looks and performance for the most part. And yes I'm not referring to Asians who come from North America or Europe. I started going to Thermae towards the end of 1999. I can honestly say it was one of the most fun places on the planet. It was a party every single night, it's stayed open till 6:00 am, and people would pour in after the bars closed. They were gals dancing by the jukebox and if you walked around you were guaranteed to get your unit grabbed many times. Girls were aggressive, naughty, and fun, not the wallflowers you see in there today. But again the customers were very different at that time. The Japanese didn't start coming there until around 2002 and then really started coming on mass after the coffee shop at the Siam City hotel was closed. It was the Asian equivalent of Thermae and we used to venture there occasionally as the food was quite good. Prices were always higher there by about 500 Baht on average. And it didn't have the same festive atmosphere Thermae had. And when it closed and they started coming to Thermae they were mainly in the back section and that's where the gals that were exclusive to them hung out. Even as early as 2002 there were gals that would not go with farang guys.

And when I mentioned demographics, there are many and various demographics in play now in the Thailand P4 P scene so I'm not just referring to Japanese and Koreans.

The past few times I've been in Thermae I've been less than impressed overall and I can say the same about go go bars, especially at the insane price they're asking. Fiwfans works mighty well for me and I can avoid lower Sukhumvit which I just don't find that appealing these days.

It's not out Canada and those of us who live here have a completely different agenda than those visiting. The Zone, for the most part, doesn't serve our purposes very well.

Real life? It's all real life. We're just making a cleaner transaction.

[QUOTE=BeachDrone;2871927]I went to Madame Claude to see what it is all about.[/QUOTE]It's become my pick of the blowjob places in Bangkok. A bit pricier than most but the rooms are very clean, the sofa beds are comfy and service has been uniformly good. I didn't know they offered full service and frankly haven't seen anybody there I'd want to do it with, but it's nice to know the option exists.

[QUOTE=BeachDrone;2871927]I went to Madame Claude to see what it is all about. Listed as a BJ Bar, it is more pricey than most of the other BJ bars. And, they have a new menu that has a "massage with sex" option. I prefer older ladies becasue I am older and do not really relate well to the 20-something girls. At the front desk, I was asked to pick a lady from the pictures, asked which was the oldest, and chose her. Then I was asked which "package" I wanted, and chose the massage with sex. I was told that the lady I selected did not massage and another lady, Hana. Hana could easily pass for 22-24 years old, and when she told me she was 42, I was surprised. She is small, with large B breasts and a nice Bush (I love a Bush).

Showered together, then to the bed for what was a pretty good massage was a VERY good. On the flip, she massages legs, works her way up, gets me slightly excuted, then starts a phenomenal BBBJ. OMG. I have never had a BJ so good. Then I returned the favor and went down on her for a long time (I love that, too, especially when the Bush tickles my nose as I'm licking away), the cover went on and we fucked every position. As with so many pros, she really gets into sex. Then we showered together again. It was a very good time, and I tipped her well.

Two good sessions in two days, one Sakuri-Akasuri and one at Madame Claude. Now I'm off to Chiang Mai.[/QUOTE]My experience in Madame Claude wasn't so positive. Theécor is great for sure, it's a pity more oilies can't spruce themselves up more but anyhow. The girls are true to the photos on the web or those they will send you if you connect on Line.

I visited almost straight after I arrived from the airport on a recent trip and picked a straight BJ, I thought a quick blowie would set the week of nicely and that if I went for a longer massage / FS it would be a waste as I'd probably shoot my load too quickly after my period of absence!

Well 40 full minutes later, I had to tell the poor girl to give up, that it didn't matter. I made her feel better by saying I must be jet-lagged etc. The truth was she was inexperienced, young, her technique wasn't great and frankly it got boring after 10 minutes. She kept me pushed down a low chair / sofa and wouldn't move her position or change her own style throughout.

She wore a sexy red dress but never removed it, she remained fully clothed throughout. Also when she got me naked, she made me go into another little room down the corridor (in full view of other potential clients) where she proceeded to wash my todger in the smallest of little sinks! I've seen this obviously in other places, but based on the decor / prices I would have expected better to be honest.

Low and behold also, I visited another place shortly afterwards and the girl had me shot within I'd say 10 minutes simply because she had a much better technique, I couldn't hold myself.

Based on my own experience, I'd recommend 7-heaven more than Madame Claudes.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS1XFyvsSEI[/URL]

She became an international celebrity with her 4 K videos, 330 K followers and millions views in Youtube, showing her shopping ingredients, kneading dough at night in her tiny and bare apartment, pushing a heavy food cart a long distance on her motor bike, cleaning the stand, selling roti all night for 25 to 75 Bahts each, then cleaning up and pushing the cart back to storage in an alley late at night. She stands out among tens of thousands street vendors in Bangkok. No other street vendors vloggers achieved the same level of attention like her.

People all over the world sympathize with her hard-working life, come from far countries, seek her out at her food stand on a small street. Videos vloggers gave her 50 K-baht tip, an Apple 14 iphone ect.

Her videos show her travelling by train home, probably in Isaan, to visit her 2 sons, sisters and her parents, never mentioned her husband or BF. Viewers would easily assume she is a country girl, seduced, impregnated then dumped and left to work hard the rest of her life to raise her bastard children, like many young girls in many under-developed countries with no family protection laws who turn to prostitution to survive. Instead of making money the easy in prostitution with her good looks and charming manners, she selects the moral, hard working life. Viewers admire her for her morals and courage.

She achieves international appreciation for the life of hard working people of Thailand. But how much of her stories are real and not staged or promoted by Vloggers for a pro actress? She sure can push the food cart a long way on streets on her motor bike without crashing into traffic. For an alleged country women, her attires are fashionable, attractive and even sexy. She definitely has helps in make up and costumes. She sure show a lot of skin on the street than average women. I did not see any street vendors in Bangkok dressing nice and sexy like her, only high-class ladies in fancy venues. But she also shops in markets in those dresses, so they do not appear out of the ordinary. Someone else is doing her Puy roti Lady 4 K videos while she works.

China had videos about country life with beautiful models and actresses in nice, snazzy city clothing, obviously fakes, elaborately staged by the central government with economic and political aims. I saw first hand how hard tens thousands food vendors work on the streets of Bangkok, including many beautiful young girls sweating over hot stoves with ready sweet smiles. Did not look like they are being controlled, extorted or taxed by organized crime. They store their carts away every night in many alleys scattered out in the city without evidences of vandalism or theft. Without this security, millions other single moms in other countries have even harder life and worse indignity.

As presented by Puy Roti Lady, I am impressed by the good work ethics of Thai people, also the attractiveness of an alleged average Thai woman, only if bar girls and escorts also work as hard. She's a lot more attractive, appealing and sexy to me than loud bar girls with big fake boobs and fake smiles in Bangkok and Pattaya.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2872089][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS1XFyvsSEI[/URL]

She became an international celebrity with her 4 K videos, 330 K followers and millions views in Youtube, showing her shopping ingredients, kneading dough at night in her tiny and bare apartment, pushing a heavy food cart a long distance on her motor bike, cleaning the stand, selling roti all night for 25 to 75 Bahts each, then cleaning up and pushing the cart back to storage in an alley late at night. She stands out among tens of thousands street vendors in Bangkok. No other street vendors vloggers achieved the same level of attention like her.

People all over the world sympathize with her hard-working life, come from far countries, seek her out at her food stand on a small street. Videos vloggers gave her 50 K-baht tip, an Apple 14 iphone ect.

Her videos show her travelling by train home, probably in Isaan, to visit her 2 sons, sisters and her parents, never mentioned her husband or BF. Viewers would easily assume she is a country girl, seduced, impregnated then dumped and left to work hard the rest of her life to raise her bastard children, like many young girls in many under-developed countries with no family protection laws who turn to prostitution to survive. Instead of making money the easy in prostitution with her good looks and charming manners, she selects the moral, hard working life. Viewers admire her for her morals and courage.

She achieves international appreciation for the life of hard working people of Thailand. But how much of her stories are real and not staged or promoted by Vloggers for a pro actress? She sure can push the food cart a long way on streets on her motor bike without crashing into traffic. For an alleged country women, her attires are fashionable, attractive and even sexy. She definitely has helps in make up and costumes. She sure show a lot of skin on the street than average women. I did not see any street vendors in Bangkok dressing nice and sexy like her, only high-class ladies in fancy venues. But she also shops in markets in those dresses, so they do not appear out of the ordinary. Someone else is doing her Puy roti Lady 4 K videos while she works.

China had videos about country life with beautiful models and actresses in nice, snazzy city clothing, obviously fakes, elaborately staged by the central government with economic and political aims. I saw first hand how hard tens thousands food vendors work on the streets of Bangkok, including many beautiful young girls sweating over hot stoves with ready sweet smiles. Did not look like they are being controlled, extorted or taxed by organized crime. They store their carts away every night in many alleys scattered out in the city without evidences of vandalism or theft. Without this security, millions other single moms in other countries have even harder life and worse indignity.

As presented by Puy Roti Lady, I am impressed by the good work ethics of Thai people, also the attractiveness of an alleged average Thai woman, only if bar girls and escorts also work as hard. She's a lot more attractive, appealing and sexy to me than loud bar girls with big fake boobs and fake smiles in Bangkok and Pattaya.[/QUOTE]She has Handlers. I always wonder how much she is making. Agent s in Thailand are Ruthless.

I don't Hate Her.

Kneading dough on the Floor is Insane.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2871814]Farang will go with anyone with a hole. An Asian won't! [/QUOTE]But Asians go with working girls for differing reasons. Farangs go to fuck, Asians go to show off and rebuild their egos.

Imagine how places like Angeles, Thailand, Philippines, etc etc would be if no Asians were allowed. Be a whole different mongering world.

NI.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2872089] Someone else is doing her Puy roti Lady 4 K videos while she works.
As presented by Puy Roti Lady, I am impressed by the good work ethics of Thai people, also the attractiveness of an alleged average Thai woman, only if bar girls and escorts also work as hard. She's a lot more attractive, appealing and sexy to me than loud bar girls with big fake boobs and fake smiles in Bangkok and Pattaya.[/QUOTE]I believe her husband is the person behind the lens behind the scenes. You see him in her IG account and there are pictures of them pre-fame.

I'm also impressed with her work ethic and skill in making those banana cakes. I subscribe to her YT channel.

I'll be staying with family near Siam Paragon and I am just curious if there is any action nearby? Would be convenient to accidentally walk into a massage place with FS if it is close by. Otherwise I just plan on taking a cab to nearby RLDs to experience some s3 xual pleasure.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2872156]But Asians go with working girls for differing reasons. Farangs go to fuck, Asians go to show off and rebuild their egos.[/QUOTE]You hang out with some very insecure Asian friends. I don't know a single Asian who goes with a hooker for the purpose of rebuilding their ego.

[QUOTE=Captain Solo;2872089]Puy Roti Lady. Bangkok Street Food Vendor[/QUOTE]

As for Puy Roti I always wanted to go visit her just to see what the fuss is all about in person. There are much prettier street vendors than her. There were a couple in Jodd Fair last time I was there who imo look better than Puy. Maybe I'll change my mind when I meet her in person.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2872156]But Asians go with working girls for differing reasons. Farangs go to fuck, Asians go to show off and rebuild their egos.

Imagine how places like Angeles, Thailand, Philippines, etc etc would be if no Asians were allowed. Be a whole different mongering world.

NI.[/QUOTE]Uhm, have you noticed that PI (which is a country that includes Angeles) and Thailand are actually in ASIA? So without Asians those places would essentially be empty jungles. Seriously, open a map or something!

Rainbow 4 Superstar is back.

Now about us as being Tom Cruise Hansum. Hahaha.

I'm not sold yet.

Her Beau was an old Asian,. She was having the time of her Life- never seen her so Happy.

He was what I'd call Unattractive think Nana Schoolgirl level.

[QUOTE=TooDirty;2871739]Oh, Captain! My Captain! LOL Although I like the food and foot massages too. The mini-split ACs are swell too, much better than crappy American hotel ACs.[/QUOTE]

Exactly! Asian countries have been using split unit AC's for decades now, while in the states, it's always freaking lousy window unit AC's, what's up with that nonsense? Everything is crap here, while it's paradise in Asia. I just don't have any luck dudes. When I was stuck in south east Asia decades ago, it was a living hell, and now I actually want to go back and live back in Asia and I'm stuck in the states instead. Jesus h christ. Go figure. Maybe I should never have left. I mean, back in those days for me it wasn't Thailand, but still close enough. Bangkok is it fellas. That's THE place. Heaven on earth if you ask me. Imagine a place existing for one reason, and one reason only. The sexual gratification of old 'Danny Devito' looking geezers like us. Ain't it awesome?

Now it's just figuring out how to get back there. Yeah sure, food, culture, excellent cheap healthcare, bla dee bla freakin dah. Fine, whatever. But non ya fellas would be steppin foot on Thai soil if it weren't for the chicks. At least I'm honest enough to admit it. You're all steppin out on your significant others anyway, at least I'm perpetually single and not cheating on anyone. Man, I tell ya fellas, I knew some guys back here who were bitching and moaning all the live long day about not getting laid and I would tell them time and time again to just please go to Asia. Especially Thailand. You'd have to beat chciks away with a stick. You could look like American thespian Danny Devito and they'd still want you. But these idiots wouldn't listen and end up with some middle aged russian chick with kids already, and they fool themselves into thinking that's all they deserve. I mean, that's what Asia is for fellas. It's what we deserve, we work hard for Asia. It's basically created for us. You don't waste hundreds of years of colonialism and a world with a clearly pro-western bent, by sticking around in places where you're just getting by. You go to places where you're worshipped like a god. Or at the very least like a king.

Why just be some schlub in the middle of nowhere Minnesota, when you can be king in Pattaya? What's wrong with everyone? Can't you see? Can't you guys see how great it is for a certain subset of men in this world? Do I have to spell it out? You think it was just during the times portrayed in Mad Men? It still is very much like that now, as it was, as it has been for centuries. We're all Don Drapers when in Asia, even if you look as awful as italian american acting legend Danny Devito. And just why are dudes from that boot shaped country so short anyway? I tell ya, some of those guys from staten island could do with a reality check, they take themselves waaaaay too seriously. I worked with one guy from there for a few years, the guy thought he was god's gift to women, and guess what kind of chick he ended up with in the end? Guess. Just guess. Come on. Guess. That's right. Asian! Asian chicks have incredibly, incredibly, low standards. As long as you're white, they see it as a step up the social ladder, be it here in the states or in Asia. You got to take advantage of that.

Most of you young people won't remember the 2002 movie Auto Focus about Bob Crane, legendary sex pervert. Watch that movie and you'll see. "A day without sex is a day wasted. " Bob Crane fucked his way through life and died a happy, fulfilled man. Murdered, sure. But a happy man nonetheless. Look at David Carradine! Guy died doing some weird sex thing to himself in a Bangkok hotel room. What a way to go. We all wish we could go like that. I doubt he was alone, the chick with him probably left while he was choking himself. But that's how you want to go, having a huge heart attack while fucking a hot babe. Me? The best I can hope for is that I die in a ditch somewhere. But imagine if it's a Thai ditch! How wonderful would that be? Because Thailand is paradise, even it's ditches are awesome.

God, why is my life so awful. Please, bring me back to Asia. I'd sell my soul in a heartbeat for a coupla million bucks, but last time I checked, the soul ain't a real thing, cause no supernatural being wants to take me up on the offer. That's how you know. No such thing as god, heaven or hell, the soul, karma or any of that shit. That's how you know. It's not that I wish I was dead, it's that I wish I was never born in the first place. Enjoy Thailand fellas. For you dudes that are there, please, never leave. I regret my birth and existence here in the states. What little time I have left on this awful, awful world, I want to dedicate it to making it back to Thailand, and dying there. Like Leaving Las Vegas. Watch that movie and you'll know what I mean. It'll change your life. That's how you'll want to die.

I think we need to reframe the conversation less about what kind of chicks Asians or white guys want, and more about what kind of guys the Thai chicks want. The reality is that Asian chicks have very low standards when it comes to men. You only need to be one thing. White. That's it. If you're Asian of any kind, be it East or from the sub continent, then you'd better be good looking, or rich or have a 12 inch dick, cause even the ugliest asian chick won't even look at you. Doesn't matter if she's a Thai model, a Filipina domestic helper working in Hong Kong, or some washed up middle aged stewardess from Indonesia who worked for qatar airways for a few years, they all end up with white guys in the end. And yes, even if you look like American comedy legend Danny freakin Devito. Why don't they go with more white guys in Thermae you ask? DUH! Because there's less white guys there. Jeezes H mother effin christ. You'd think we'd all need phds to figure this out. I did a pretty thorough scouting of Thaniya in my time, and the main reason they go with Japanese dudes there is again, cause white guys aren't there, maybe most of them are too chicken shit scared or something, I sure wasn't. 9 out of 10 times, Asian chicks will go with a white guy, and the one time they don't is cause they're shit out of luck. So stop complaining, and use that superpower of being born with white skin. Jesus and mary. God sakes. So, it's not that Asian guys go to rebuild their ego or whatever, although white guys will fuck just about anything with a hole, it's more that the chicks will pick the white guys over anything else.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2872089][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS1XFyvsSEI[/URL]

She became an international celebrity with her 4 K videos, 330 K followers and millions views in Youtube, showing her shopping ingredients, kneading dough at night in her tiny and bare apartment, pushing a heavy food cart a long distance on her motor bike, cleaning the stand, selling roti all night for 25 to 75 Bahts each, then cleaning up and pushing the cart back to storage in an alley late at night. She stands out among tens of thousands street vendors in Bangkok. No other street vendors vloggers achieved the same level of attention like her.

People all over the world sympathize with her hard-working life, come from far countries, seek her out at her food stand on a small street. Videos vloggers gave her 50 K-baht tip, an Apple 14 iphone ect.

Her videos show her travelling by train home, probably in Isaan, to visit her 2 sons, sisters and her parents, never mentioned her husband or BF. Viewers would easily assume she is a country girl, seduced, impregnated then dumped and left to work hard the rest of her life to raise her bastard children, like many young girls in many under-developed countries with no family protection laws who turn to prostitution to survive. Instead of making money the easy in prostitution with her good looks and charming manners, she selects the moral, hard working life. Viewers admire her for her morals and courage.

She achieves international appreciation for the life of hard working people of Thailand. But how much of her stories are real and not staged or promoted by Vloggers for a pro actress? She sure can push the food cart a long way on streets on her motor bike without crashing into traffic. For an alleged country women, her attires are fashionable, attractive and even sexy. She definitely has helps in make up and costumes. She sure show a lot of skin on the street than average women. I did not see any street vendors in Bangkok dressing nice and sexy like her, only high-class ladies in fancy venues. But she also shops in markets in those dresses, so they do not appear out of the ordinary. Someone else is doing her Puy roti Lady 4 K videos while she works.

China had videos about country life with beautiful models and actresses in nice, snazzy city clothing, obviously fakes, elaborately staged by the central government with economic and political aims. I saw first hand how hard tens thousands food vendors work on the streets of Bangkok, including many beautiful young girls sweating over hot stoves with ready sweet smiles. Did not look like they are being controlled, extorted or taxed by organized crime. They store their carts away every night in many alleys scattered out in the city without evidences of vandalism or theft. Without this security, millions other single moms in other countries have even harder life and worse indignity.

As presented by Puy Roti Lady, I am impressed by the good work ethics of Thai people, also the attractiveness of an alleged average Thai woman, only if bar girls and escorts also work as hard. She's a lot more attractive, appealing and sexy to me than loud bar girls with big fake boobs and fake smiles in Bangkok and Pattaya.[/QUOTE]I don't think she's real either, Thailand is way better than this. Much hotter chicks. And why does she even need to do this? Plenty of white guys will bend over backwards to sponsor her a living. Sugarbaby and all that. Heck, I'll do it. If I had more money! Ha! Although I do agree about the work ethic of Asians, no one on this planet works harder than Asians, and also Mexicans, but in this video, I think it's made up. She can't be real. No one would choose that life, when they could easily have a better one by just walking up to any white guy there. I mean, come on.
There's some famous Thai youtube channels out there of Thai village chicks cooking or whatever in their rural locale, looking sexy while doing Thai things, and if you just do even a teeny tiny bit of research you'll find that they're already with some white guy who bought her a house in said village, and she's making these videos for extra income. Heck, with how many views some of these channels get, they're making more money than most of us already. I tell ya fellas, youtube is the future, but youtube coming out of Thailand? Now that's a guaranteed money maker.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2872156]But Asians go with working girls for differing reasons. Farangs go to fuck, Asians go to show off and rebuild their egos.

Imagine how places like Angeles, Thailand, Philippines, etc etc would be if no Asians were allowed. Be a whole different mongering world.

NI.[/QUOTE]I don't know about this one, read my post on the reframing of this topic from the point of view of guys, to which guys the chicks actually choose. Guys don't really fuck chicks for ego or anything, it's just about getting off. That's why white dudes will fuck anything with a hole. But again, in the end, the reality is more about what guys the Asian chicks will pick, and I guarantee you, they always pick the white guy.

[URL]https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UC3EV6Rrp_WOlrXe8xMgOWDg/monthly[/URL]

According to social blade, she makes anywhere between 60 k to 900 k a year, in USD! See what I mean fellas? That's the power of youtube. And she's only at 300 k subscribers. Not millions of, or tens of millions of, but just 300 k subscribers. That's all you need. A hidden camera, walk around at night filming hot Thai chicks and their possible custom, create a channel called 'Asian Night' or some such, and voila! 30 k subscribers within 5 months, and soon the money will roll in. I've done plenty of research on this dudes, trust me, almost anything coming out of Thailand, or about Thailand, on youtube will generate views. It's inexplicable, but incredible. It's living the dream!

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2872224]As for Puy Roti I always wanted to go visit her just to see what the fuss is all about in person. There are much prettier street vendors than her. There were a couple in Jodd Fair last time I was there who imo look better than Puy. Maybe I'll change my mind when I meet her in person.[/QUOTE]I don't go to a coffee shop out of my way in the USA just for a bikini barrista. Roti is everywhere.[QUOTE=RajPatela;2872377]Rainbow 4 Superstar is back.

Now about us as being Tom Cruise Hansum. Hahaha.

I'm not sold yet.

Her Beau was an old Asian,. She was having the time of her Life- never seen her so Happy.

He was what I'd call Unattractive think Nana Schoolgirl level.[/QUOTE]What's her number? I have my eye on 99 and 102. I'm going to be a wildman when I get back, I'm in a place full of hot little chicks that are doing mer no good here LOL. Siem is not a mongering destination, although I did smash a backpacker (hot too) the other day. She had dirty feet.

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2872380]God, why is my life so awful. Please, bring me back to Asia. I'd sell my soul in a heartbeat for a coupla million bucks, but last time I checked, the soul ain't a real thing, cause no supernatural being wants to take me up on the offer. That's how you know. No such thing as god, heaven or hell, the soul, karma or any of that shit. That's how you know. It's not that I wish I was dead, it's that I wish I was never born in the first place. Enjoy Thailand fellas. For you dudes that are there, please, never leave. I regret my birth and existence here in the states. What little time I have left on this awful, awful world, I want to dedicate it to making it back to Thailand, and dying there. Like Leaving Las Vegas. Watch that movie and you'll know what I mean. It'll change your life. That's how you'll want to die.[/QUOTE]Mate, if you are that unhappy where you are you aren't going to automaticly be happy once you get here. And while I'm sure it feels nice to vent, perhaps you want to take your musings to rant and raves so as not to clog up the offer and acceptance of on the ground intelligence in this area of the forum.

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2872384]I don't know about this one, read my post on the reframing of this topic from the point of view of guys, to which guys the chicks actually choose. Guys don't really fuck chicks for ego or anything, it's just about getting off. That's why white dudes will fuck anything with a hole. But again, in the end, the reality is more about what guys the Asian chicks will pick, and I guarantee you, they always pick the white guy.[/QUOTE]Dude ya need to travel here more, read more (RTFF going back to the beginning) and think twice before hitting the post button. WODR, that's one of the stupidest things I have read ever.

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2872387][URL]https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UC3EV6Rrp_WOlrXe8xMgOWDg/monthly[/URL]

According to social blade, she makes anywhere between 60 k to 900 k a year, in USD! See what I mean fellas? That's the power of youtube. And she's only at 300 k subscribers. Not millions of, or tens of millions of, but just 300 k subscribers. That's all you need. A hidden camera, walk around at night filming hot Thai chicks and their possible custom, create a channel called 'Asian Night' or some such, and voila! 30 k subscribers within 5 months, and soon the money will roll in. I've done plenty of research on this dudes, trust me, almost anything coming out of Thailand, or about Thailand, on youtube will generate views. It's inexplicable, but incredible. It's living the dream![/QUOTE]Try not to miss many life experiences while you are filming, editing, posting along with 1,500,000 other losers who document their lives on line in the hope of making a buck. There's nothing you could post that hasn't been done before, I mean why would I select your loser video over some hot Chinese girl sensously sucking down a live centipede. What are you going to film, roti sellers? Just another set of titties jiggling under a shirt while spices get pounded? Oh look fat Indians wandering around Suk, oh Ill just wait to 43:22 for a glimpse of schoolgirl?

For every million dollar influencer, there are millions of poor schnooks looking through a camera and seeing nothing in their lives. No thanks. Good luck. Don't give up your day job.

Using TF, the cheapest quote for ST I've gotten is about 1 K. In Bangkok, it's been about 2 K. What's the lure of Bangkok over Pattaya? Is it just that the city has a better vibe and more things to do / see?

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[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2872382]I don't think she's real either, Thailand is way better than this. Much hotter chicks. And why does she even need to do this? Plenty of white guys will bend over backwards to sponsor her a living. Sugarbaby and all that. Heck, I'll do it. If I had more money! Ha! Although I do agree about the work ethic of Asians, no one on this planet works harder than Asians, and also Mexicans, but in this video, I think it's made up. She can't be real. No one would choose that life, when they could easily have a better one by just walking up to any white guy there. I mean, come on.
There's some famous Thai youtube channels out there of Thai village chicks cooking or whatever in their rural locale, looking sexy while doing Thai things, and if you just do even a teeny tiny bit of research you'll find that they're already with some white guy who bought her a house in said village, and she's making these videos for extra income. Heck, with how many views some of these channels get, they're making more money than most of us already. I tell ya fellas, youtube is the future, but youtube coming out of Thailand? Now that's a guaranteed money maker.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty this is all staged to make money on YT.

I always thought she was a lady boy and I m still not convinced she is not.

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2872380]
God, why is my life so awful. Please, bring me back to Asia. I'd sell my soul in a heartbeat for a coupla million bucks, but last time I checked, the soul ain't a real thing, cause no supernatural being wants to take me up on the offer. That's how you know. No such thing as god, heaven or hell, the soul, karma or any of that shit. That's how you know. It's not that I wish I was dead, it's that I wish I was never born in the first place. Enjoy Thailand fellas. For you dudes that are there, please, never leave. I regret my birth and existence here in the states. What little time I have left on this awful, awful world, I want to dedicate it to making it back to Thailand, and dying there. Like Leaving Las Vegas. Watch that movie and you'll know what I mean. It'll change your life. That's how you'll want to die.[/QUOTE]Leaving Las Vegas was the most fucking depressing movie of all time. The fact that you want to be like Nicholas Cage in that movie is so sad. Dude, please go get some help. Bangkok is just another city with pollution and traffic and all the other stuff. No amount of pussy will fill the hole in your life. Just like any other addiction it will hollow you out and kill you. The most important thing to remember is "wherever YOU go there YOU are".

[QUOTE=HornyForker;2872448]Using TF, the cheapest quote for ST I've gotten is about 1 K. In Bangkok, it's been about 2 K. What's the lure of Bangkok over Pattaya? Is it just that the city has a better vibe and more things to do / see?[/QUOTE]Exactly. Bangkok is a real city with tons of things to do and excellent restaurants. Excellent night markets too. Pattaya has Soi 6, Walking Street, LK Metro, a few soapies, Central Festival, and Terminal 21. Most of Pattaya clientele look like bums who retired too early and are trying to get by. Look at any beer bar as you walk by them.

Having said that, given the choice I choose to stay in Pattaya cause I think the gogo girls are MUCH more friendly than the cold girls in BKK gogo bars. Monthly weekend trips to BKK are a must though.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2872574]Leaving Las Vegas was the most fucking depressing movie of all time. The fact that you want to be like Nicholas Cage in that movie is so sad. Dude, please go get some help. Bangkok is just another city with pollution and traffic and all the other stuff. No amount of pussy will fill the hole in your life. Just like any other addiction it will hollow you out and kill you. The most important thing to remember is "wherever YOU go there YOU are".[/QUOTE]I didn't want to be the 1st to bring it up.

But I concur this guy needs Help. He is out on some kind of Spectrum no one's yet discovered.

Prostitute s are not the Answer.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2872422]I don't go to a coffee shop out of my way in the USA just for a bikini barrista. Roti is everywhere.What's her number? I have my eye on 99 and 102. I'm going to be a wildman when I get back, I'm in a place full of hot little chicks that are doing mer no good here LOL. Siem is not a mongering destination, although I did smash a backpacker (hot too) the other day. She had dirty feet.

Mate, if you are that unhappy where you are you aren't going to automaticly be happy once you get here. And while I'm sure it feels nice to vent, perhaps you want to take your musings to rant and raves so as not to clog up the offer and acceptance of on the ground intelligence in this area of the forum.

Dude ya need to travel here more, read more (RTFF going back to the beginning) and think twice before hitting the post button. WODR, that's one of the stupidest things I have read ever.[/QUOTE]Stupider than the Sub / Com. Hahaha 🤣129315;129315;129315;.

P.S. Anyone know how many points of infraction before I need to get a new passport.

P.S. 5 of the finest from you know where we're Blocked from entering Rainbow 4 last night. I must say they take it well.

I am planning a short trip to BKK in December last week.

Planning to stay near Nana. Will be traveling from India.

Would like to seek some pointers. How is visa free entry for Indians?

Budget for 3 days and places where Indians are not allowed.

Thanks.

DP.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2872691]Exactly. Bangkok is a real city with tons of things to do and excellent restaurants. Excellent night markets too. Pattaya has Soi 6, Walking Street, LK Metro, a few soapies, Central Festival, and Terminal 21. Most of Pattaya clientele look like bums who retired too early and are trying to get by. Look at any beer bar as you walk by them.
Having said that, given the choice I choose to stay in Pattaya cause I think the gogo girls are MUCH more friendly than the cold girls in BKK gogo bars. Monthly weekend trips to BKK are a must though.[/QUOTE]Aha thanks. I just got back from a week's stay in Pattaya and so got a good dose of well priced action. I'll stick to non-mongering activities in BKK unless my dik decides that the much higher price is still worth it. I definitely liked the vibe in Pattaya. Cool ladies, laid back and eager to please. Hope to be back next year.

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2872380] God, why is my life so awful. Please, bring me back to Asia. I'd sell my soul in a heartbeat for a coupla million bucks, but last time I checked, the soul ain't a real thing, cause no supernatural being wants to take me up on the offer. That's how you know. No such thing as god, heaven or hell, the soul, karma or any of that shit. That's how you know. It's not that I wish I was dead, it's that I wish I was never born in the first place. Enjoy Thailand fellas. For you dudes that are there, please, never leave. I regret my birth and existence here in the states. What little time I have left on this awful, awful world, I want to dedicate it to making it back to Thailand, and dying there. Like Leaving Las Vegas. Watch that movie and you'll know what I mean. It'll change your life. That's how you'll want to die.[/QUOTE]Hang in there bud. Things will get better. Leaving La Vegas is awesome. Cage was the perfect actor for that role too.

[QUOTE=DicPussy;2872743]I am planning a short trip to BKK in December last week.

Planning to stay near Nana. Will be traveling from India.

Would like to seek some pointers. How is visa free entry for Indians?

Budget for 3 days and places where Indians are not allowed.

Thanks.

DP.[/QUOTE]Are you asking where Indian s aren't Welcome?

The whole country to start. Hahaha 🤣.

Serious. Rainbow 4 and 5 indians keep getting Blocked.

[QUOTE=DicPussy;2872743]I am planning a short trip to BKK in December last week.

Planning to stay near Nana. Will be traveling from India.

Would like to seek some pointers. How is visa free entry for Indians?

Budget for 3 days and places where Indians are not allowed.

Thanks.

DP.[/QUOTE]I wonder if Nana Schoolgirl is Indian Friendly.

Hahaha 🤣 hahaha 🤣 hahaha 🤣.

[QUOTE=HornyForker;2872201]I'll be staying with family near Siam Paragon and I am just curious if there is any action nearby? Would be convenient to accidentally walk into a massage place with FS if it is close by. Otherwise I just plan on taking a cab to nearby RLDs to experience some s3 xual pleasure.[/QUOTE]Forget a cab, just take the BTS or MRT. Extensive coverage, growing by the day (though no idea where the Pink line would take you). But from Siam, it's a straight shot on the BTS to Asok, Phrom Phong, or Thong Lo. Plenty of what you're looking for at any of those stops.

[QUOTE=Banana Boi;2872691]Exactly. Bangkok is a real city with tons of things to do and excellent restaurants. Excellent night markets too. [/QUOTE]Agreed. Check out Sakura Akasuri
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1421-Bangkok-Massage-Parlors-Except-TULIP-and-ANNIES!&p=2871925&viewfull=1#post2871925[/url]
short walk on Soi 55 from Thong Lo.

Chat-u-chak market, exit Kamphaeng Phet on MRT exits into market, weekends. Section 26 and adjacent have some interesting souvenirs. La Rumba cafe (section 26, Soi 1/7), great place to have a drink and people watch. Little Wings House, Section 25, Soi 3/2, Rooms 217-219, has some very unique souvenirs. Phikul Thongbamnet, area 15, Section 11, Soi 1, easy to carry tissue box holders (fold flat).

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2872780]Forget a cab, just take the BTS or MRT. Extensive coverage, growing by the day (though no idea where the Pink line would take you). But from Siam, it's a straight shot on the BTS to Asok, Phrom Phong, or Thong Lo. Plenty of what you're looking for at any of those stops.[/QUOTE]Cool, I will try that tonight if I can break free from family commitments. I see the stops you mentioned on the 'Green Line'. Thanks 11 Bravo.

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2872380]Everything is crap here, while it's paradise in Asia.[/QUOTE]Yes, it might all SEEM to be fun and games when you're a tourist, but living here (or anywhere as an expat), can be a different story. Have you heard about the corruption (to paraphrase Captain Renault, "I'm shocked, shocked, to find [I]corruption[/I] going on in here"). Careful what you say or write, or a legal case can be brought against you. Don't have an accident; the usual "it's the foreigner's fault as it wouldn't have happened if he wasn't here", and of course the police will investigate, but don't plan on going anywhere until they finish (or you settle). Go ahead and piss off a mucky-muck and see what happens. If you're a wealthy enough mucky-muck, you can even run over and kill a cop and nothing happens. Sure, if you have some wasta, some juice, some connections, it can help, but, on the other hand, it can grate when you hear from your local friends (assuming you care to have local friends) the petty shakedowns and crap they have to put up with.

Myself, wherever I am, that's home, and I make the best of it, seeing and experiencing what I can, but NEVER a one-track mind. And the first time you have a shawarma [I]blowout[/I], believe me, you will question your decision to leave the homeland.

Getting ones Belief s system torn down by Sexpats must be a bit disconcerting.

I stand with Newton York.

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2872780]Chat-u-chak market, exit Kamphaeng Phet on MRT exits into market, weekends. Section 26 and adjacent have some interesting souvenirs. La Rumba cafe (section 26, Soi 1/7), great place to have a drink and people watch. Little Wings House, Section 25, Soi 3/2, Rooms 217-219, has some very unique souvenirs. Phikul Thongbamnet, area 15, Section 11, Soi 1, easy to carry tissue box holders (fold flat).[/QUOTE]Damn, I hate to self-quote, but just slow in my old age and missed the edit window.

To those who say Chat-u-chak has no place on a punting site, I say au contraire. It makes a GREAT excuse to escape [I] inquisitive[/I] eyes, for those that need to. "No, you don't want to go, it's HOT and CROWDED, I'll check it out first". Quick BTS or MRT ride, an hour truly shopping, a ride back to town, and you've got a couple of hours [I]free time[/I]. And if you've bought something, alibi confirmed. Just make sure it's the weekend.

Who in Thailand would want to watch a woman make rotis? I suspect most her viewers and 330 K subscribers are in the West, interested in the life of an attractive woman in Asia having to work so hard with her food cart.

Other coffee makers in Thailand and street food vendors in Asia are also on YouTube, but without revealing attire like Puy, and do not gather millions views. Whoever stages her 4 K videos did a good job dressing her up in fancy, revealing clothes showing lots of skin, big, happy smiles and fast, skillful hands. Got to admit she looks attractive in that sexy attire.

YouTube pay outs are high for Western views, so she may be making closer to $900 K a year, a big chunk of money in Thailand and a very good deal. With all that money she can quit the roti business and keep a couple farangs as sex slaves LOL.

Somebody took videos of her sleeping in bed in the morning before she woke up to get ready to work. Cameraman likely gets to sleep with her in the same bed.

She said it took a lot of time to do the videos in addition to her roti job and asked viewers for support, but never mentioned who does the videos. She also hung the phone on the cart to video herself working. Videos showed no computer or editing equipment in her apartment. There are no pictures of husband or BF in her Instagram account.

Roti is a common snack in Thailand. There must be hundreds other roti makers with the same or better skills, but none wears attractive, sexy attires showing lots of skin like her LOL.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2872864]Somebody took videos of her sleeping in bed in the morning before she woke up to get ready to work. Cameraman likely gets to sleep with her in the same bed. [b]There are no pictures of husband or BF in her Instagram account[/b][/QUOTE]There are pictures of her husband/boyfriend and young kids on her Instagram account ... September 2021 and prior.

There are always exceptions, but generally Asians tend to avoid conflicts, unlikely to complain or confront.

I heard comments from a few people in hotel management in Asia. Among various visitors, the frequency of problems they encounter from high to low: Africans, Indians, Chinese, Taiwanese, Koreans, Japanese. They did not mention Caucasians. I am not trying to denigrate any specific group, only relaying info from reliable sources.

Japanese are a very formal people. They are not used to haggling. Guys would act like perfect gentlemen, pay whatever the girls ask and accept whatever services they receive without complaining or causing scenes. If they are not happy, they would quietly take their business somewhere else.

Bar girls like Japanese because they are generous and unlikely to cause problems. One of my wingmen in Tijuana is a Japanese American guy, nice, cool, calm, collect, like a Buddha. By his demeanors people would feel he's honest, reasonable, unlikely to break out in emotional outbursts and would never hurt a fly. A well-known tough and difficult bar girl, pretty like Barbie doll, acts cold and rough to most guys and girls, but would drape herself over him and coo to him like he was a baby. Go figure.

I know a few difficult US civie women, went through multiple divorces with Asian and Caucasian spouses, settled down with Japanese American guys and are happy for life. Perhaps they feel these guys are nicer, more honest, reliable, trustworthy than others?

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2872891]There are always exceptions, but generally Asians tend to avoid conflicts, unlikely to complain or confront.[/QUOTE]Definitely.

Asians in general, and Thais definitely, don't want to lose face in a given situation. In Thailand, there's [I]Krang Jai[/I]. Thailand is a very complicated hierarchical system, where your [I]power[/I] in society is determined by many things. Just the simple wai, notice how different it is depending on the situation: who does it first, how high on the face are the fingers, how long, etc. , etc. I learned a very long time ago I'd never figure out how to do it properly, so I reserve mine for monks and people older (few and far between) than myself. I like this description of Krang Jai: your neighbor is burning garbage in his back yard and the wind is blowing the smoke directly into your house. But due to Krang Jai, you'll never complain. And just because a Thai is smiling and seemingly nodding in agreement, doesn't necessarily mean he's happy and agreeing with you. A facade to smooth society's interactions' [I]sandpaper[/I], and everyone just gets along with life. Certainly a lot better than other socienty's Glock [I]solutions[/I], so they just might be onto something.

The biggest pointer I can give you is to ignore the dipshits on here.

- Stay anywhere between Sukhumvit Soi 2 and the Asoke intersection.

- All reports indicate smooth immigration experience since visa-free was announced.

- Budgets: Depends where you go and what you want, but have a look at this for starters: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=2825648[/URL]#post2825648.

- Indians not allowed: It all depends on the kind of Indian you want to be. So have a look at this thread for pointers: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3759-Advice-for-Indians-visiting-Thailand[/URL].

Have fun and report back your escapades.

Pulse.

[QUOTE=DicPussy;2872743]I am planning a short trip to BKK in December last week.

Planning to stay near Nana. Will be traveling from India.

Would like to seek some pointers. How is visa free entry for Indians?

Budget for 3 days and places where Indians are not allowed.

Thanks.

DP.[/QUOTE]

Met a lovely FL of Cambodian origin. In this game for but 2 months, PSE at her best, tour guide, dinner companion, lovely person, loves to dance and suck.

I took her LT but she is also part of the ST union at 2 K ST (can be had lower). She gets booked for a month at a time by some Korean dude. I took her for 3 days / nights and spent a total of 15 k including food and action. She'll go BBFS but I covered up. Lovely balls action and massage. She is a doll. Well impressed. Had her in BKK then saw her with another dude in Pattaya at Siam at Siam.

Worth a go.

YMMV.

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2872780]Forget a cab, just take the BTS or MRT. Extensive coverage, growing by the day (though no idea where the Pink line would take you). But from Siam, it's a straight shot on the BTS to Asok, Phrom Phong, or Thong Lo. Plenty of what you're looking for at any of those stops.

Agreed. Check out Sakura Akasuri
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1421-Bangkok-Massage-Parlors-Except-TULIP-and-ANNIES!&p=2871925&viewfull=1#post2871925[/url]
short walk on Soi 55 from Thong Lo.

Chat-u-chak market, exit Kamphaeng Phet on MRT exits into market, weekends. Section 26 and adjacent have some interesting souvenirs. La Rumba cafe (section 26, Soi 1/7), great place to have a drink and people watch. Little Wings House, Section 25, Soi 3/2, Rooms 217-219, has some very unique souvenirs. Phikul Thongbamnet, area 15, Section 11, Soi 1, easy to carry tissue box holders (fold flat).[/QUOTE]Thank god. Tissue box holders. My life is complete.

[QUOTE=Pulse0101;2873058]The biggest pointer I can give you is to ignore the dipshits on here.

- Stay anywhere between Sukhumvit Soi 2 and the Asoke intersection.

- All reports indicate smooth immigration experience since visa-free was announced.

- Budgets: Depends where you go and what you want, but have a look at this for starters: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=2825648[/URL]#post2825648.

- Indians not allowed: It all depends on the kind of Indian you want to be. So have a look at this thread for pointers: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3759-Advice-for-Indians-visiting-Thailand[/URL].[/QUOTE]Thanks for advice. Appreciated. Was not aware of Indian thread on BKK.

Thanks.

DP.

11 Bravo,

Very insightful of Thais' nature.

I heard from upper-crust Thai friends living in Bangkok, that Thais are very class conscious. They have to dress carefully when going out, not mix with low-brow or average people, stay in expensive hotels, eat only at certain high-class, never cheap low-brow, restaurants, and God forbids, never partake in street food, in case others will see and disrespect them. They refused to go to a highly authentic Thai restaurant with me because it was deemed not high-class enough. Their high-class restaurants did not taste so good!

It seems Thais have lots of personal pride and care way too much about what others think of them, completely opposite of the American egalitarian society, where people in high position of power and wealth would dress down, mix and bullshit with anyone just for fun. It seems Thais are brought up in strict families and rigid social hierarchy, learned to be highly restrained, fearful of making mistakes and not forgiven forever. In America, children are encouraged to play, explore, risk, may be making mistakes, but are taught that acknowledging faults and sincere apologies would get their mistakes forgiven and forgotten.

I found the average Thai people on the streets happy, honest, warm, friendly, polite, helpful, much more so than other Asian peoples in neighboring countries. Unlike their neighbors, Thai have not had any bloody civil war in the last 100 years. Quite remarkable.

Actually Puy is not that pretty, only looks nice, clean, fit, healthy and happy with her big smiles. I have seen quite a few much prettier young girls toiling over hot stove on the streets of Bangkok, but none wear dressy, revealing and sexy attires like Puy. She has good taste in clothes that really improves her good looks.

She sure wears less clothes and shows more skin than all other street vendors, succeeds in drawing lots of attention to herself on the street and in Youtube with her unusual combination of good looks, sexy clothes and hard work.

She's running out of interesting subjects. Her videos with children, sisters, friends and family are boring, draw few viewers. Perhaps she can keep the interest momentum going with tours of Bangkok, pairing with other chefs to show Thai unique food, or for maximum viewers' interest, perhaps videos of her and cameraman with even less clothes in bed LOL.

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2873024]your neighbor is burning garbage in his back yard and the wind is blowing the smoke directly into your house. But due to Krang Jai, you'll never complain.[/QUOTE]Nonsense. Of course you can complain, you just do it extra nice and respectful. Also making sure you are complaining to the culprit only and nobody else is listening then there isn't even a risk for anybody to loose face.

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2872829]Damn, I hate to self-quote, but just slow in my old age and missed the edit window.

To those who say Chat-u-chak has no place on a punting site, I say au contraire. It makes a GREAT excuse to escape [I] inquisitive[/I] eyes, for those that need to. "No, you don't want to go, it's HOT and CROWDED, I'll check it out first". Quick BTS or MRT ride, an hour truly shopping, a ride back to town, and you've got a couple of hours [I]free time[/I]. And if you've bought something, alibi confirmed. Just make sure it's the weekend.[/QUOTE]Now as to the more sophisticated view: If you are a first timer, its a MUST just because its Chatuchak and is an experience. You arent going to spend just an hour there either, unless you have been there before and are lookin g for some crap that you think you can only find there. If you want to experience it, its all day. If you have been there before, there are others that are more fun and cheaper to boot. If you live here, you may NEED to go there, its another of those places, like Auto Parts Street, that are the only places that have what you need. But there are so many other markets that if you have a market fetish, your needs would be better served by going elsewhere. The expansion of the MRT makes it easier.

Hell, if you want to go to a Thai market and impress your brand new girlfriend who is now a name instead of a number, take the boat to Nothanburi Pier, wander around there, then taxi up to Koh Kret and have a romantic dinner on the river after a schmooze through the local Mon markets. Those Clay burners you see in Terminal 21 for $30 are only $5 up there. Weekends only. Dress nice and behave 'because you are real farang up there. '.

There are tons more, Google is your friend.

If you want to try to understand the Thai lifestyle better, and you only have one market to go to, go to Khlong Toey. After all, you really don't need cheap souveniers made in China that are sold all through SE Asia?

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2873024]Definitely.

Asians in general, and Thais definitely, don't want to lose face in a given situation. In Thailand, there's [I]Krang Jai[/I]. Thailand is a very complicated hierarchical system, where your [I]power[/I] in society is determined by many things. Just the simple wai, notice how different it is depending on the situation: who does it first, how high on the face are the fingers, how long, etc. , etc. I learned a very long time ago I'd never figure out how to do it properly, so I reserve mine for monks and people older (few and far between) than myself. I like this description of Krang Jai: your neighbor is burning garbage in his back yard and the wind is blowing the smoke directly into your house. But due to Krang Jai, you'll never complain. And just because a Thai is smiling and seemingly nodding in agreement, doesn't necessarily mean he's happy and agreeing with you. A facade to smooth society's interactions' [I]sandpaper[/I], and everyone just gets along with life. Certainly a lot better than other socienty's Glock [I]solutions[/I], so they just might be onto something.[/QUOTE]Until they snap and massacre a village. Your view of Thai culture is simplistic.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2873085]Met a lovely FL of Cambodian origin. In this game for but 2 months, PSE at her best, tour guide, dinner companion, lovely person, loves to dance and suck.

I took her LT but she is also part of the ST union at 2 K ST (can be had lower). She gets booked for a month at a time by some Korean dude. I took her for 3 days / nights and spent a total of 15 k including food and action. She'll go BBFS but I covered up. Lovely balls action and massage. She is a doll. Well impressed. Had her in BKK then saw her with another dude in Pattaya at Siam at Siam.

Worth a go.

YMMV.[/QUOTE]Worth a go. Right. No name, date this happened, where you met her, where she hangs out. Hey guys, look, here's pics of a chick I shagged, go find her amoung 20 million other girls.

Priceless.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2873251]11 Bravo,

Very insightful of Thais' nature.

I heard from upper-crust Thai friends living in Bangkok, that Thais are very class conscious. They have to dress carefully when going out, not mix with low-brow or average people, stay in expensive hotels, eat only at certain high-class, never cheap low-brow, restaurants, and God forbids, never partake in street food, in case others will see and disrespect them. They refused to go to a highly authentic Thai restaurant with me because it was deemed not high-class enough. Their high-class restaurants did not taste so good!

It seems Thais have lots of personal pride and care way too much about what others think of them, completely opposite of the American egalitarian society, where people in high position of power and wealth would dress down, mix and bullshit with anyone just for fun. It seems Thais are brought up in strict families and rigid social hierarchy, learned to be highly restrained, fearful of making mistakes and not forgiven forever. In America, children are encouraged to play, explore, risk, may be making mistakes, but are taught that acknowledging faults and sincere apologies would get their mistakes forgiven and forgotten.

I found the average Thai people on the streets happy, honest, warm, friendly, polite, helpful, much more so than other Asian peoples in neighboring countries. Unlike their neighbors, Thai have not had any bloody civil war in the last 100 years. Quite remarkable.[/QUOTE]Now, as one with real experience, you are getting it.

Personally I thnik Thai and Cambodian people are the nicest folks in the world, as long as you too are Jai Dee. That includes the Hi Sos in Thailand I have met, I find the Okhnas in Cambodia to be arrogant like their Chinese Masters.

Too many Westerners act like Westerners in Thailand. Don't.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2873251]
I heard from upper-crust Thai friends living in Bangkok, that Thais are very class conscious.[/QUOTE]What, Thais class conscious? Hard to believe. They certainly don't seem that way up on the stage in the gogo bars, or the beer bars. But then I never venture outside of the Nana go-go's, except to take a tuk-tuk to Soi Cowboy. And Pattaya beer bars, all seem equal. (AKA tongue-in-cheek).

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2873251]They have to dress carefully when going out, not mix with low-brow or average people, stay in expensive hotels, eat only at certain high-class, never cheap low-brow, restaurants, and God forbids, never partake in street food, in case others will see and disrespect them. They refused to go to a highly authentic Thai restaurant with me because it was deemed not high-class enough. Their high-class restaurants did not taste so good![/QUOTE]Yes indeed, along with the [I]high-so's[/I] (want to tease a friend? Call her a [I]high-so[/I]). But they can't be all that High-Class, given they're associating with you (that's the [B]2nd person PLURAL[/B] falang, not the FIRST person specific). But I DO know what you mean.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2873251]It seems Thais have lots of personal pride and care way too much about what others think of them, completely opposite of the American egalitarian society, where people in high position of power and wealth would dress down, mix and bullshit with anyone just for fun. It seems Thais are brought up in strict families and rigid social hierarchy, learned to be highly restrained, fearful of making mistakes and not forgiven forever. In America, children are encouraged to play, explore, risk, may be making mistakes, but are taught that acknowledging faults and sincere apologies would get their mistakes forgiven and forgotten.[/QUOTE]Actually, a big problem in Thai education, the non-questioning of teachers, not risking mistakes. I appreciate their sense of personal pride and how they're always decked out when out-and-about. One of the biggest complements you can give is tell her she smells nice. And all that growing up training is how they know how to wai.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2873251]I found the average Thai people on the streets happy, honest, warm, friendly, polite, helpful, much more so than other Asian peoples in neighboring countries. Unlike their neighbors, Thai have not had any bloody civil war in the last 100 years. Quite remarkable.[/QUOTE]And never colonized (ceded land, but never occupied. Well, there was WWII). If you've never been and get the chance, visit Myanmar, Thai hospitality on steroids.

[QUOTE=ChrisCross123;2873305]Nonsense. Of course you can complain, you just do it extra nice and respectful. Also making sure you are complaining to the culprit only and nobody else is listening then there isn't even a risk for anybody to loose face.[/QUOTE]YOU can complain, but a Thai would not necessarily complain depending on the [I]status[/I] of the neighbor and if they were family. Spend some time in Thailand, associating with the people, and you'll see this time and time again. Standard response is "My pen Lai". Because the neighbor would be hearing you speak, and would lose face, which would risk causing resentment with your neighbor. TIT.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2873125]Thank god. Tissue box holders. My life is complete.[/QUOTE]You're welcome, certainly works for those of us who have friends (I know they are because they pick me up at the airport), and it's always nice to have something nice in hand, yet easy to pack and carry. Really too far for donuts, they can get those themselves, and that gelato just won't make the trip, let along customs.

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2873375]

You're welcome, certainly works for those of us who have friends (I know they are because they pick me up at the airport), and it's always nice to have something nice in hand, yet easy to pack and carry. Really too far for donuts, they can get those themselves, and that gelato just won't make the trip, let along customs.[/QUOTE]I try to bring back something a bit more meaningful, probably why I don't need to buy anyhting at Chatuchak.

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2873375]What, Thais class conscious? Hard to believe. They certainly don't seem that way up on the stage in the gogo bars, or the beer bars. But then I never venture outside of the Nana go-go's, except to take a tuk-tuk to Soi Cowboy. And Pattaya beer bars, all seem equal. (AKA tongue-in-cheek).

Yes indeed, along with the [I]high-so's[/I] (want to tease a friend? Call her a [I]high-so[/I]). But they can't be all that High-Class, given they're associating with you (that's the [B]2nd person PLURAL[/B] falang, not the FIRST person specific). But I DO know what you mean.

Actually, a big problem in Thai education, the non-questioning of teachers, not risking mistakes. I appreciate their sense of personal pride and how they're always decked out when out-and-about. One of the biggest complements you can give is tell her she smells nice. And all that growing up training is how they know how to wai.

And never colonized (ceded land, but never occupied. Well, there was WWII). If you've never been and get the chance, visit Myanmar, Thai hospitality on steroids.

YOU can complain, but a Thai would not necessarily complain depending on the [I]status[/I] of the neighbor and if they were family. Spend some time in Thailand, associating with the people, and you'll see this time and time again. Standard response is "My pen Lai". Because the neighbor would be hearing you speak, and would lose face, which would risk causing resentment with your neighbor. TIT.

You're welcome, certainly works for those of us who have friends (I know they are because they pick me up at the airport), and it's always nice to have something nice in hand, yet easy to pack and carry. Really too far for donuts, they can get those themselves, and that gelato just won't make the trip, let along customs.[/QUOTE]Class ratings.

22. Prostitute s.

23. Soi Dogs.

24. Customers of number 22.

End of Classes. Nana Schoolgirl would be in 22 while I'm in 24. Go figure. Stay in your lane People.

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2872381]I think we need to reframe the conversation less about what kind of chicks Asians or white guys want, and more about what kind of guys the Thai chicks want. The reality is that Asian chicks have very low standards when it comes to men. You only need to be one thing. White. That's it. If you're Asian of any kind, be it East or from the sub continent, then you'd better be good looking, or rich or have a 12 inch dick, cause even the ugliest asian chick won't even look at you. Doesn't matter if she's a Thai model, a Filipina domestic helper working in Hong Kong, or some washed up middle aged stewardess from Indonesia who worked for qatar airways for a few years, they all end up with white guys in the end. And yes, even if you look like American comedy legend Danny freakin Devito. Why don't they go with more white guys in Thermae you ask? DUH! Because there's less white guys there. Jeezes H mother effin christ. You'd think we'd all need phds to figure this out. I did a pretty thorough scouting of Thaniya in my time, and the main reason they go with Japanese dudes there is again, cause white guys aren't there, maybe most of them are too chicken shit scared or something, I sure wasn't. 9 out of 10 times, Asian chicks will go with a white guy, and the one time they don't is cause they're shit out of luck. So stop complaining, and use that superpower of being born with white skin. Jesus and mary. God sakes. So, it's not that Asian guys go to rebuild their ego or whatever, although white guys will fuck just about anything with a hole, it's more that the chicks will pick the white guys over anything else.[/QUOTE]I suppose I'll make a blanket statement of my own. Imo a lot of the Farang tend to pick dark skinned, tattooed, skinnier, taller girls. And a lot of the Japanese and Korean guys tend to pick more of the Kpop model looking girls.

I really do think it depends on which club you're at and which girl it is. Ie if you're at Billiards, it's equal opportunity for everyone.

There's a certain type of hot Asian girl that generally doesn't go with white guys. It's almost like a Venn diagram where one section is greyed out and white guys don't have access.

If you're at Baccara they much prefer Japanese / Korean clientele. Even if you get a lady drink as a white guy, she'll take the drink of course. But if another Asian guy asks for a lady drink, she's going home with him.

I think there's prejudice. But prejudice has truth.

There's a prejudice that white peoplee are just known to be cheap. "Gogo girls are too expensive, I can get this at the beerbars. This is a waste of money' -- so after hearing that a few times they immediately classify you as cheap and don't bother with that and go straight for the guys that DO like gogirls which happen to be Japanese and Korean guys.

So beer bar girls. They're fine with Farang.

Gogo girls in some bars. They view you as cheap.

While you can find hot girls in gogo bars and beerbars, the certain look, ie that Kpop girl look, they don't go to beerbars. And 'those' girls don't bother with white guys or they have prejudice that you're cheap.

So in essence // Farang don't like the look of those types of girls and much prefer the skinny, tattooed, dark skinned looks.

But on the flipside those Kpop looking dimes don't bother with white guys because they view them as cheap. So they go to Japanese and Korean guys.

[QUOTE=JustLoggedInto;2873444]I suppose I'll make a blanket statement of my own. Imo a lot of the Farang tend to pick dark skinned, tattooed, skinnier, taller girls. And a lot of the Japanese and Korean guys tend to pick more of the Kpop model looking girls.

I really do think it depends on which club you're at and which girl it is. Ie if you're at Billiards, it's equal opportunity for everyone.

There's a certain type of hot Asian girl that generally doesn't go with white guys. It's almost like a Venn diagram where one section is greyed out and white guys don't have access.

If you're at Baccara they much prefer Japanese / Korean clientele. Even if you get a lady drink as a white guy, she'll take the drink of course. But if another Asian guy asks for a lady drink, she's going home with him.

I think there's prejudice. But prejudice has truth.

There's a prejudice that white peoplee are just known to be cheap. "Gogo girls are too expensive, I can get this at the beerbars. This is a waste of money' -- so after hearing that a few times they immediately classify you as cheap and don't bother with that and go straight for the guys that DO like gogirls which happen to be Japanese and Korean guys.

So beer bar girls. They're fine with Farang.

Gogo girls in some bars. They view you as cheap.

While you can find hot girls in gogo bars and beerbars, the certain look, ie that Kpop girl look, they don't go to beerbars. And 'those' girls don't bother with white guys or they have prejudice that you're cheap.

So in essence // Farang don't like the look of those types of girls and much prefer the skinny, tattooed, dark skinned looks.

But on the flipside those Kpop looking dimes don't bother with white guys because they view them as cheap. So they go to Japanese and Korean guys.[/QUOTE]Take it from a long term farang resident. The longer you're here the less you're attracted to the dark skin Issan look. And you're leaving out one important factor. Most western dudes expected GFE or a PSE right off the bat. Many Asian guys are content to go with the flow and just get serviced. So herein lies the problem for all of us, the beautiful K-pop looking girl is not going to bang you like a pornstar.
The wonderful thing about covid times is there were unicorns online. One gal Iris, originally from CNX, was 170 cm, lilly white skin, no baby, toned body, kpop face, perfectly made breasts, one of if not the best looking gals I've ever been with. Had worked japan, taiwan, and Hong kong, and obviously had some wealthy donors at times, because we had a discussion about her favorite red wines in between rounds and she knew her stuff. In addition she was absolutely pure filth. While standing behind me in the shower with my unit in her hand askes me if I was going to a+ her. Skill set was unreal and had no problem getting that second pop orally in less than 5 min. Good times for residents as working gals from all over returned. I had quite a few experiences close to that but Iris was definitely tops.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2873512]the beautiful K-pop looking girl is not going to bang you like a pornstar.
The wonderful thing about covid times is there were unicorns online. One gal Iris, originally from CNX, was 170 cm, lilly white skin, no baby, toned body, kpop face, perfectly made breasts, one of if not the best looking gals I've ever been with. [/QUOTE]Take a guess why no baby. She was most likely a boy a couple of years ago. Thai girls with big tiddies, larger than 165 cm and white skin are 50% post op ladyboys.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2873360]Until they snap and massacre a village. Your view of Thai culture is simplistic.[/QUOTE]No, 30 years experience, and much more than just a BKK/Pattaya tourist visit. The societal pressures to confirm keep a lid on the pot in most cases, but there is the exception, as anywhere, where the pressure becomes too great on an individual. How often does a mass kill happen? Weekly, monthly, yearly? I don't keep abreast of the local news (damn, hated when BKK Post stopped publishing a NEWSPAPER), but walking down any street at any time, I'm never concerned that I'll wind up [i]collateral damage[/i]. Elsewhere...

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2873360]Personally I thnik Thai and Cambodian people are the nicest folks in the world, as long as you too are Jai Dee. That includes the Hi Sos in Thailand I have met, I find the Okhnas in Cambodia to be arrogant like their Chinese Masters.[/QUOTE]On the one hand, Cambodians are great, on the other, two words, khmer rouge. Now THAT was a massacre. A must visit: Tuol Sleng Genocide Museum. With Thailand's history and culture, that wouldn't happen here. One berserk soldier with an automatic weapon, yes. 70000 berserk soldiers with automatic weapons starting from Year Zero, no. And as I posted, Myanmar, Asian hospitality and friendliness on steroids. As in Cambodia, a real crime what's happening in Myanmar now. And with PRC opening up again, where's my ruck?

Compare Thailand Gun Killings vs USA.

You need to consider the one Demographic that does most of the Violence in America is basically non. Existent in Thailand. Sans those that Hang around Nana Area. I'm starting to think even our Lovely School had enough of them.

[QUOTE=ChrisCross123;2873561]Take a guess why no baby. She was most likely a boy a couple of years ago. Thai girls with big tiddies, larger than 165 cm and white skin are 50% post op ladyboys.[/QUOTE]Nah I believe him. COVID was a strange time. The girls were desperate. You could get a lot of the gogo girls on LINE. And it was a short period of time. But yeah, now things are just inflated prices and things are back in full swing.

The LBs give 2 major tells. 1st is they are super exaggerated with their movements. Real girls don't flaunt out in public. In fact, real girls from Baccara (as an exapmle) tend to wear more conservative clothing when they go home with you, almost like theyr'e trying to quickly hide into the crowd.

2nd tell is the voice. They can never fuking fake that. Thank god. But never ever can they sound like girls do. No matter what they do. You can just hear it just by the way they say the word 'Hello'.

Worst comes to worse, ask to see the ID.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2873512]Take it from a long term farang resident. ...One gal Iris, originally from CNX, was 170 cm, lilly white skin, no baby, toned body, kpop face, perfectly made breasts, one of if not the best looking gals I've ever been with. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ChrisCross123;2873561]Take a guess why no baby. She was most likely a boy a couple of years ago. Thai girls with big tiddies, larger than 165 cm and white skin are 50% post op ladyboys.[/QUOTE]I don't know, does [B]Goatscrot[/B] need glasses, unable to detect post-op trans, or should [B]ChrisCross123[/B] refrain from pulling statistics out of his ass as if they were real? Hard to tell, but I know which way I'm leaning.

[QUOTE=ChrisCross123;2873561]Take a guess why no baby. She was most likely a boy a couple of years ago. Thai girls with big tiddies, larger than 165 cm and white skin are 50% post op ladyboys.[/QUOTE]100% female. Dude, I've lived her for a quarter of century. I know a ladyboy when. I encounter one.

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2873621]No, 30 years experience, and much more than just a BKK/Pattaya tourist visit. The societal pressures to confirm keep a lid on the pot in most cases, but there is the exception, as anywhere, where the pressure becomes too great on an individual. How often does a mass kill happen? Weekly, monthly, yearly? I don't keep abreast of the local news (damn, hated when BKK Post stopped publishing a NEWSPAPER), but walking down any street at any time, I'm never concerned that I'll wind up [i]collateral damage[/i]. Elsewhere...

On the one hand, Cambodians are great, on the other, two words, khmer rouge. Now THAT was a massacre. A must visit: Tuol Sleng Genocide Museum. With Thailand's history and culture, that wouldn't happen here. One berserk soldier with an automatic weapon, yes. 70000 berserk soldiers with automatic weapons starting from Year Zero, no. And as I posted, Myanmar, Asian hospitality and friendliness on steroids. As in Cambodia, a real crime what's happening in Myanmar now. And with PRC opening up again, where's my ruck?[/QUOTE]Your view of the Khmer tragedy is as simplistic as your view of the Thais and the complicated history of this area.

[QUOTE=JustLoggedInto;2873658]Nah I believe him. COVID was a strange time. The girls were desperate. You could get a lot of the gogo girls on LINE. And it was a short period of time. But yeah, now things are just inflated prices and things are back in full swing.

The LBs give 2 major tells. 1st is they are super exaggerated with their movements. Real girls don't flaunt out in public. In fact, real girls from Baccara (as an exapmle) tend to wear more conservative clothing when they go home with you, almost like theyr'e trying to quickly hide into the crowd.

2nd tell is the voice. They can never fuking fake that. Thank god. But never ever can they sound like girls do. No matter what they do. You can just hear it just by the way they say the word 'Hello'.

Worst comes to worse, ask to see the ID.[/QUOTE]Yes, I've encountered a few post ops with lovely lady voices and gentle movements. But I agree. Generally, I find the LB are most aggressive (except the really clever ones). But if I'm walking down Cowboy and a young lady chases me (I'm in my 50's etc) it will almost always be a LB. Outside normal bars / clubs promotion girls will grab me but generally are doing so in a less demanding way. I did encounter many LB on TF pretending but I tell all the potentials that my hotel will check ID and no LB are allowed. They disappear quickly. Also the ones around Nana etc, I do the same trick if I am unsure. Despite all that I have had 3 get to my room or apt over the years and gone for the grope to find ugggggghhhhhhhhhhhh.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2873085]Met a lovely FL of Cambodian origin. In this game for but 2 months, PSE at her best, tour guide, dinner companion, lovely person, loves to dance and suck.

I took her LT but she is also part of the ST union at 2 K ST (can be had lower). She gets booked for a month at a time by some Korean dude. I took her for 3 days / nights and spent a total of 15 k including food and action. She'll go BBFS but I covered up. Lovely balls action and massage. She is a doll. Well impressed. Had her in BKK then saw her with another dude in Pattaya at Siam at Siam.

Worth a go.

YMMV.[/QUOTE]I don't know dude, she's kinda cute I guess, with the BBFS I suppose worth a boink. But we're paying hard earned cash money here. Maybe it's the photos. I kinda get it I suppose. If the chick's a real sweetheart, that'll more than compensate for the looks, God knows I've had more than my fair share of getting really attractive chicks only for them to be a really bad performer, and just to be bad personality wise. Why, one of the best fucks I ever had was in Geylang with this Thai chick, that while attractive, wouldn't be described as gorgeous. But boy, did she deliver in bed. So I thank you Belvaros for posting photos. Everybody talks a big game here, not me though, I just tell it like it is because my life truly sucks, but anyone who posts real photos, always greatly appreciated! But also, if you could add some information on how we might also partake in her. Is she on fiwfans?

[QUOTE=ChrisCross123;2873561]Take a guess why no baby. She was most likely a boy a couple of years ago. Thai girls with big tiddies, larger than 165 cm and white skin are 50% post op ladyboys.[/QUOTE]I don't know dude, I've heard many a guy tell that they can spot a ladyboy cause they're just so good at this whole picking up chicks thing. But said same guy would come back with a story of how he had no idea that the lady was a dude.

Time for Aerosmith! Dude looks like a lady!

Oh my God! It's the crying game!

But like come on. If we were all studs so freaking good at getting chicks into bed, why are we in Thailand paying for sex? God knows I can't get it any other way not just cause I'm old, but cause I'm ugly as sin. I tell ya dudes, even in this anonymous forum I can be honest and don't have to resort to pretending to be anything I'm not. I say roll with the punches. If you go as far as bringing the ladyboy back to the room, and you find yourself staring at junk, don't freak out. Politely say no thanks and move on. Them Thai ladyboys, some of them are so good looking, you'd never know. You want guarantees, never pick the girls standing outside of Thermae, and when at Nana make sure the bar you're in does not have ladyboys. Thailand is a great country, it's our playground, let's be nice there. Even if I say that I'm 99% sure the chicks I banged from Nana and Cowboy were real chicks, but when you've had 10 beers, and some of them look so real, post op and all that, you never know.

The statistical odds of us having banged at least one post op while hobbying in Thailand, especially if you end up with dozens and dozens of chicks in a single weeks long trip, is pretty high. Some of them Nana bars, they won't necessarily tell you, even if they have the signs up. So I take it back, no guarantees in a Nana bar. Well, then again it depends. Man, There's so many conflicting reports on this and things change so fast there. Just go with your gut.

[QUOTE=HornyForker;2872746]Hang in there bud. Things will get better. Leaving La Vegas is awesome. Cage was the perfect actor for that role too.[/QUOTE]Thank you HornyForker. But it's too late for me. Decades of shit has taken it's toll on my life and I'm just waiting for when everything is finally over. But God, I love this forum. With no friends, and almost no family left, dealing with the after effects of what I experienced in South East Asia decades ago because of Uncle Sam. This here forum. This is the one place where I can express myself and remind myself that I do have one reason left to wake up in the morning. One reason to go on. One reason to keep going to work, putting up with the assholes in the office. And that one reason is Thailand. Thailand will both save me and kill me, and I can't wait to go back. One last blowout sex trip. What a way to go.

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[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2873898]I don't know dude, I've heard many a guy tell that they can spot a ladyboy cause they're just so good at this whole picking up chicks thing. But said same guy would come back with a story of how he had no idea that the lady was a dude.

Time for Aerosmith! Dude looks like a lady!

Oh my God! It's the crying game!

But like come on. If we were all studs so freaking good at getting chicks into bed, why are we in Thailand paying for sex? God knows I can't get it any other way not just cause I'm old, but cause I'm ugly as sin. I tell ya dudes, even in this anonymous forum I can be honest and don't have to resort to pretending to be anything I'm not. I say roll with the punches. If you go as far as bringing the ladyboy back to the room, and you find yourself staring at junk, don't freak out. Politely say no thanks and move on. Them Thai ladyboys, some of them are so good looking, you'd never know. You want guarantees, never pick the girls standing outside of Thermae, and when at Nana make sure the bar you're in does not have ladyboys. Thailand is a great country, it's our playground, let's be nice there. Even if I say that I'm 99% sure the chicks I banged from Nana and Cowboy were real chicks, but when you've had 10 beers, and some of them look so real, post op and all that, you never know.

The statistical odds of us having banged at least one post op while hobbying in Thailand, especially if you end up with dozens and dozens of chicks in a single weeks long trip, is pretty high. Some of them Nana bars, they won't necessarily tell you, even if they have the signs up. So I take it back, no guarantees in a Nana bar. Well, then again it depends. Man, There's so many conflicting reports on this and things change so fast there. Just go with your gut.[/QUOTE]You always know if you pay attention. And if in doubt you can always ask. Ladyboys are not there to trick people. In fact they don't want a customer having an unpleasant surprise either.

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2873691]I don't know, does [B]Goatscrot[/B] need glasses, unable to detect post-op trans, or should [B]ChrisCross123[/B] refrain from pulling statistics out of his ass as if they were real? Hard to tell, but I know which way I'm leaning.[/QUOTE]If you fish in the ponds that the local lads do you will find a lot of taller white skined women who have not had babies.

[QUOTE=AggieDad1;2873940]Not me. By the way the Japanese passport is better than most western ones. They have more agreements with more countries that allow them to enter countries without a visa. Learned this from a Chinese cutie after sex. Don't know why she felt the need to share that information.[/QUOTE]Had a GF with the best combo, dual national: Swiss and Danish. As a Dane, could work anywhere in the EU. With the Swiss, didn't need a visa for most countries.

And the most useful superpower is a friendly attitude, a good heart, with a bit of humility thrown in. Opens a lot more [i]doors[/i] than a boot.

[QUOTE=Banana Boi;2873901]White men are turned away from 90+ percent of the adult related places in Japan and Korea. Hell, even other Asian are turned away if you can't speak the local language. You won't even be able to take a street walker from Okubo Park cause most of the girls can't speak English or only trust to go with locals.

You don't even have to leave Bangkok to find places where white men are turned away. Thaniya Road would be one of the examples.[/QUOTE] Back at turn of the century, working with a Black American officer who'd been stationed in Japan. Said he had a great time; any number of Japanese [i]civilian[/i] girls wanted a unique experience. He didn't need to BS.

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As to discrimination, I found it wasn't racial or national but economic when I was sent to the front of the government line. My salary cost the customer more, I was there for work, so better use of my time and eliminate queue delays, more time on the job, what they were paying for.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2873923]If you fish in the ponds that the local lads do you will find a lot of taller white skined women who have not had babies.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, the older I get, the barer my [I]hook[/I] looks... :)

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2874031]Unfortunately, the older I get, the barer my [I]hook[/I] looks... :)[/QUOTE]My hook is only baited with portraits of the king.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2873866]Yes, I've encountered a few post ops with lovely lady voices and gentle movements. But I agree. Generally, I find the LB are most aggressive (except the really clever ones). But if I'm walking down Cowboy and a young lady chases me (I'm in my 50's etc) it will almost always be a LB. Outside normal bars / clubs promotion girls will grab me but generally are doing so in a less demanding way. I did encounter many LB on TF pretending but I tell all the potentials that my hotel will check ID and no LB are allowed. They disappear quickly. Also the ones around Nana etc, I do the same trick if I am unsure. Despite all that I have had 3 get to my room or apt over the years and gone for the grope to find ugggggghhhhhhhhhhhh.[/QUOTE]You can't find "ugh" with a post-op by groping. Post-op means they have something that resembles superficially a vagina. If it's really well done then it still certainly won't look like a normal vagina but like legit vagina that was subjected to cosmetic surgery. Difference still is that there are no glands lubricating it and other differences of course. But superficially difficult to tell and by groping not possible.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2873922]You always know if you pay attention. And if in doubt you can always ask. Ladyboys are not there to trick people. In fact they don't want a customer having an unpleasant surprise either.[/QUOTE]Wrong. Pre-op ladyboys will usually tell you because you will find out anyway. Also given their still present dick they don't precisely identify as women. But post-op ladyboys (with artificial vagina) do often actually identify as women and then of course won't refer to themselves as male.

I talked to one transsexual on TF whose pictures where absolutely not giving even a hint of her having been a him. Not in the slightest. Turns out she transsexed at the age of 10! I doubt you will be able to even hear the difference given that she probably took hormones before voice break and puberty.

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2873895]I don't know dude, she's kinda cute I guess, with the BBFS I suppose worth a boink. But we're paying hard earned cash money here. Maybe it's the photos. I kinda get it I suppose. If the chick's a real sweetheart, that'll more than compensate for the looks, God knows I've had more than my fair share of getting really attractive chicks only for them to be a really bad performer, and just to be bad personality wise. Why, one of the best fucks I ever had was in Geylang with this Thai chick, that while attractive, wouldn't be described as gorgeous. But boy, did she deliver in bed. So I thank you Belvaros for posting photos. Everybody talks a big game here, not me though, I just tell it like it is because my life truly sucks, but anyone who posts real photos, always greatly appreciated! But also, if you could add some information on how we might also partake in her. Is she on fiwfans?[/QUOTE]Sorry, only just saw this post. I have her whatsapp. I had her line but for some reason I cannot login anymore (dog ate my homework). I have videos of us dancing and yada yada yada.

As you said she is what she is, but the sex is A-, the attitude is A++, her body is be+, her face a see+ IMHO.

But, as I said, I like the lady and she hads the right attitude, is semi educated, used to help out old people yada yada yada. More of a companion with great ball sucking / cock sucking techniques.

DM me for whatsapp nos if needed.

As for sex, I had an Indonesian-American friend when I lived in Vegas. Not attractive in the face, chunky fake boobs body BUT she had the best touch ever. One night at the Palms bar area, she gave me a hand massage for 30 minutes, then groped my neck gently (tingled my spine) and massaged my dick through my pants. I spurted everywhere. Best O I'd ever had until then. She took me home sucked me twice and swallowed what I had, like a nice girl should. I tried to DATY but her pussy was too hairy so she fucked me each way to heaven. Only time we did it. Then, it got weird, she was ugly, so we went back to being dance mates. She had a 3/10 face IMHO.

So YMMV. Then I've been with 2 models and a few porn stars. The former were shit in bed, the latter PSE but, several were dangerously diseased in the end and I was lucky not to get anything at all from them. In TH I've had 9's who were shit, 10's who were great and everything from epic failures to the greatest PSE in the land.

So anyway, back to the girl in my pics, the Cambodian, she is one of my top 5 ever LT players.

YMMV.

Yes, I read the FF, and I know it's been asked a while ago, but no answers. So here it is again:

I love to visit a BJ bar or massage parlor where I can see other guys being serviced or hear the bonking noises, with a potential peak. I love see girls at work.

Anyone can recommend a BJ bar or massage parlor that has that?

Thanks all!

Evan.

[QUOTE=ChrisCross123;2874178]You can't find "ugh" with a post-op by groping. Post-op means they have something that resembles superficially a vagina. If it's really well done then it still certainly won't look like a normal vagina but like legit vagina that was subjected to cosmetic surgery. Difference still is that there are no glands lubricating it and other differences of course. But superficially difficult to tell and by groping not possible.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you have had some experience.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2874192]Sorry, only just saw this post. I have her whatsapp. I had her line but for some reason I cannot login anymore (dog ate my homework). I have videos of us dancing and yada yada yada.

As you said she is what she is, but the sex is A-, the attitude is A++, her body is be+, her face a see+ IMHO.

But, as I said, I like the lady and she hads the right attitude, is semi educated, used to help out old people yada yada yada. More of a companion with great ball sucking / cock sucking techniques.

DM me for whatsapp nos if needed.

As for sex, I had an Indonesian-American friend when I lived in Vegas. Not attractive in the face, chunky fake boobs body BUT she had the best touch ever. One night at the Palms bar area, she gave me a hand massage for 30 minutes, then groped my neck gently (tingled my spine) and massaged my dick through my pants. I spurted everywhere. Best O I'd ever had until then. She took me home sucked me twice and swallowed what I had, like a nice girl should. I tried to DATY but her pussy was too hairy so she fucked me each way to heaven. Only time we did it. Then, it got weird, she was ugly, so we went back to being dance mates. She had a 3/10 face IMHO.

So YMMV. Then I've been with 2 models and a few porn stars. The former were shit in bed, the latter PSE but, several were dangerously diseased in the end and I was lucky not to get anything at all from them. In TH I've had 9's who were shit, 10's who were great and everything from epic failures to the greatest PSE in the land.

So anyway, back to the girl in my pics, the Cambodian, she is one of my top 5 ever LT players.

YMMV.[/QUOTE]I agree Belvaros, some of the best fucks I've ever had was with mildly attractive chicks. Maybe it's got something to do with the fact that since they only look kinda mildly fuckable, they try harder at performance. While the hot chicks, always get by with their looks. This is a pretty common phenomenon at places like Thermae. So just like you, I never judge a book by its cover. Since we can kinda afford it, I always try to give the girl a chance. Yes, my gut instinct when I see a 'butterface', as in 'She's hot everywhere 'but her face', is to just walk, but more often than not they give me a good time. Easily in the top 5 best fucks I ever had was in Geylang years ago. Kinda cute and a nice kind of chubby, she wasn't exactly a model type, but by the balls of Lucifer himself, she rocked my world. I wish there was some way to find her again. And I remember one of the first times I got in to the whole Korean girl scene here in the tri-state area, when she opened the door, I thought kinda like 'meh', but by Buddha she changed my life, and I went to see her again at least 5 more times. The last 2 times with her I even went bareback. The only reason I had to stop seeing her was because I realized I was starting to develop feelings for her. That's a no go. These 2 girls were very good at rimming by the way, and that kinda awesome service, you remember forever.

Anyway, take it from me fellas, give them uglies a try once in a while. Well, not too ugly. I can say all this too cause I'm ugly as sin myself. On the level of acting legend Danny Devito ugly, I'm just saying. Know why Thailand is paradise? Cause chicks will bang guys like me that look as ugly as comedy auteur Danny Devito, that's why.

My wingman and I have been going to Bangkok for 10 days every January for about 10 years. We were big fans of Insanity as it had a nice balance of non-pros (of both sexes), semi-pros and a few hardcore girls. Neither of us are big drinkers, but nevertheless, we were able to reliably pull some FL girls from these bars / discos whenever we went. I should mention that we are both "mature", and while neither of us is fat (we both run 20-30 miles per week) or particularly ugly, no one would mistake us for being less than 60. We do fine, for example, on Thaifriendly or Tinder using our real photographs, so we are not that far over the hill, LOL.

In any case, Insanity has shut down, as has been documented here. Indeed, I was in BKK twice already this year and it is definitely shut down and does not look ready to reopen! There are articles on the internet saying it was busted for not paying attention to COVID rules. It won't open again until 2025 (which probably means it is closed forever).

We tried Mixx back in May, and the crowd was younger than I remembered. Most of the girls were not P4 P. Nice eye candy, but nothing for us to take home. After failing to attract more than a few glances from the pretty ladies over the course of an hour or so, we took home a pair of chubby Vietnamese girls whose performance was quite lackluster.

I am trying to find another club in BKK to visit with the intention of enjoying the music, the hot ladies and scoring a beautiful Asian for a night of P4 P fun. We are not looking for a go-go bar, but we have no personal experience with a variety of bars that may suit our purposes (eg, Sugar, Levels, BlaqLyte and Route 66 have all been recommended), but I just cannot tell if my top priority, ie, pulling a lady to bring back to my hotel, is likely to be accomplished. The advice of the community is requested.

By the way, although neither of us drinks, it did occur to me that we might do better buying a bottle of expensive whiskey and sitting at a table. That might attract some of the pretty ladies at Mixx (or it might attract their boyfriends). Does anyone have experience with this approach?

[QUOTE=ChrisCross123;2874178]You can't find "ugh" with a post-op by groping. Post-op means they have something that resembles superficially a vagina. If it's really well done then it still certainly won't look like a normal vagina but like legit vagina that was subjected to cosmetic surgery. Difference still is that there are no glands lubricating it and other differences of course. But superficially difficult to tell and by groping not possible.[/QUOTE]The 3 that lied to me about being LB were pre-op, sorry for the confusion of my post and YES I know post op have the modified credit card readers. But quite a few post OP have been done in their early teens and may have lady voices so YMMV.

[QUOTE=ChrisCross123;2874179]Wrong. Pre-op ladyboys will usually tell you because you will find out anyway. Also given their still present dick they don't precisely identify as women. But post-op ladyboys (with artificial vagina) do often actually identify as women and then of course won't refer to themselves as male.

I talked to one transsexual on TF whose pictures where absolutely not giving even a hint of her having been a him. Not in the slightest. Turns out she transsexed at the age of 10! I doubt you will be able to even hear the difference given that she probably took hormones before voice break and puberty.[/QUOTE]We'll have to disagree here. They'll always admit it when pressed.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2874548]We'll have to disagree here. They'll always admit it when pressed.[/QUOTE]A++.

Most, many LB are on the scam I've found in the last 30 years. But WTF do I know or the many videos of LB / str8 guys show.

YMMV.

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2874462]My wingman and I have been going to Bangkok for 10 days every January for about 10 years. We were big fans of Insanity as it had a nice balance of non-pros (of both sexes), semi-pros and a few hardcore girls. Neither of us are big drinkers, but nevertheless, we were able to reliably pull some FL girls from these bars / discos whenever we went. I should mention that we are both "mature", and while neither of us is fat (we both run 20-30 miles per week) or particularly ugly, no one would mistake us for being less than 60. We do fine, for example, on Thaifriendly or Tinder using our real photographs, so we are not that far over the hill, LOL.

In any case, Insanity has shut down, as has been documented here. Indeed, I was in BKK twice already this year and it is definitely shut down and does not look ready to reopen! There are articles on the internet saying it was busted for not paying attention to COVID rules. It won't open again until 2025 (which probably means it is closed forever).

We tried Mixx back in May, and the crowd was younger than I remembered. Most of the girls were not P4 P. Nice eye candy, but nothing for us to take home. After failing to attract more than a few glances from the pretty ladies over the course of an hour or so, we took home a pair of chubby Vietnamese girls whose performance was quite lackluster.

I am trying to find another club in BKK to visit with the intention of enjoying the music, the hot ladies and scoring a beautiful Asian for a night of P4 P fun. We are not looking for a go-go bar, but we have no personal experience with a variety of bars that may suit our purposes (eg, Sugar, Levels, BlaqLyte and Route 66 have all been recommended), but I just cannot tell if my top priority, ie, pulling a lady to bring back to my hotel, is likely to be accomplished. The advice of the community is requested.

By the way, although neither of us drinks, it did occur to me that we might do better buying a bottle of expensive whiskey and sitting at a table. That might attract some of the pretty ladies at Mixx (or it might attract their boyfriends). Does anyone have experience with this approach?[/QUOTE]Another Insanity vet here. Pre-covid days were just *different* !

Last night, after disparate ups and downs drinking with a few Nana gems, I was waiting outside for one to get changed after shift -- but time passes, and if you're not hungry, you get in the way. So after wandering around a bit, having a street beer I didn't need -- I was accosted by a tout making promises to come to "late night bar, many pretty girls!

RESIST! LOL.

After a longer than wanted ride, we rocked up to Honey, and the flashback of being there before all flooded back. Can't recall if it was pre-covid or 2021, but it was exactly the same: a smattering of losers (harsh epiphany notwithstanding!) of both genders -- the ladies kept waving at me to invite them, but I could only manage LOLs in response.

Currently making plans with Belvaros's lass for tonight. But PM me if or post if you chance upon a real FL club on a Monday night.

The good news is that I'll be in Bangkok in the middle of January for a conference for about a week. The bad news is, they have us at a hotel near Don Muang Airport. I'm fully prepared to take a cab to Nana after the daily sessions end but I was wondering if anyone had any "insight" as to possible "activities" closer by. I would do an escort service but it wouldn't be feasible to bring them to the hotel. I've RTFF but came up empty.

Also, since it has been many years since I was last in Bangkok, how much would a taxi run me from Don Muang to Nana? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

[QUOTE=BigDaddy1906;2874616]The good news is that I'll be in Bangkok in the middle of January for a conference for about a week. The bad news is, they have us at a hotel near Don Muang Airport. I'm fully prepared to take a cab to Nana after the daily sessions end but I was wondering if anyone had any "insight" as to possible "activities" closer by. I would do an escort service but it wouldn't be feasible to bring them to the hotel. I've RTFF but came up empty.

Also, since it has been many years since I was last in Bangkok, how much would a taxi run me from Don Muang to Nana? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Less than 10 dollars ish. Depending on route and the of day.

Where is the best go-to place to exchange money, or has reliable ATMs around Sukhumvit, perhaps around Sukhumvit 25 or 18?

[QUOTE=Tvataham274;2874640]Where is the best go-to place to exchange money, or has reliable ATMs around Sukhumvit, perhaps around Sukhumvit 25 or 18?[/QUOTE]Vasu exchange right down Nana BTS station has very good rates on average.

There is also the exchange located between soi 18 and Exchange tower, on occasions they can even beat Vasu a little bit (at least for Euros).

[QUOTE=Tvataham274;2874640]Where is the best go-to place to exchange money, or has reliable ATMs around Sukhumvit, perhaps around Sukhumvit 25 or 18?[/QUOTE]SuperRich at Asok BTS, but often long lines.

[QUOTE=Tvataham274;2874640]Where is the best go-to place to exchange money, or has reliable ATMs around Sukhumvit, perhaps around Sukhumvit 25 or 18?[/QUOTE]I recommend Vasu on the corner of Suk and Soi 7/1. Or you could queue up for half an hour with the Chinese tourists at Super Rich in Asoke BTS station!

[QUOTE=Evinmors;2874260]Yes, I read the FF, and I know it's been asked a while ago, but no answers. So here it is again:

I love to visit a BJ bar or massage parlor where I can see other guys being serviced or hear the bonking noises, with a potential peek. I love seeing girls at work.

Anyone can recommend a BJ bar or massage parlor that has that?

Thanks all!

Evan.[/QUOTE]Really, no place like this in BKK??

[QUOTE=Evinmors;2874658]Really, no place like this in BKK??[/QUOTE]Wrong city. Go to the many Pattaya BJ bars and G clubs or better yet Germany AO and gangbang clubs.

In my Thailand trip last month I did DATY on a chick. Her pussy had a sweet taste. Is this a cause for worry or a symptom of a disease?

The girl was young around 24 yrs and I could not see any signs of disease on pussy or elsewhere. Checked everything under full hotel lights.

[QUOTE=Ulalaulala123;2874718]In my Thailand trip last month I did DATY on a chick. Her pussy had a sweet taste. Is this a cause for worry or a symptom of a disease?

The girl was young around 24 yrs and I could not see any signs of disease on pussy or elsewhere. Checked everything under full hotel lights.[/QUOTE]She was likely recently fucked by someone using a flavoured condom or lube. Hope for the former.

Ok, I also kissed her quite a lot after DATY. Maybe whatever it was in the pussy went back in her via her mouth heh heh.

[QUOTE=JordCo;2874724]She was likely recently fucked by someone using a flavoured condom or lube. Hope for the former.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ulalaulala123;2874718]In my Thailand trip last month I did DATY on a chick. Her pussy had a sweet taste. Is this a cause for worry or a symptom of a disease?

The girl was young around 24 yrs and I could not see any signs of disease on pussy or elsewhere. Checked everything under full hotel lights.[/QUOTE]Some of the new pussy "lubes / numbing agents" these WG use are flavored these days. Girl I had regularly in Vegas used a numbing lube because sex hurt her. It had a weird taste, but now some apparently are flavored FWIW.

YMMV.

[QUOTE=BigDaddy1906;2874616]The good news is that I'll be in Bangkok in the middle of January for a conference for about a week. The bad news is, they have us at a hotel near Don Muang Airport. I'm fully prepared to take a cab to Nana after the daily sessions end but I was wondering if anyone had any "insight" as to possible "activities" closer by. I would do an escort service but it wouldn't be feasible to bring them to the hotel. I've RTFF but came up empty.

Also, since it has been many years since I was last in Bangkok, how much would a taxi run me from Don Muang to Nana? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.[/QUOTE][B]BigDaddy1906[/B]: LONG time since the Sand Box, hope you are well.

Probably easier to grab a taxi from your hotel rather than trying to get back to Don Muong and catch one from there. If there's a conference, hopefully taxis will be waiting around. Getting back, especially late at night, might be slightly problematic, no return fare. But, TIT, so a bit of extra should get you there. Last year, had to take a ride to the Thai Airways office out near the airport and it was around 300 baht and that was morning rush hours. Back in the day, I'd tell the driver "expressway" and I'd pay the tolls, but depending on the time, maybe not that much of an issue.

It does seem that the BTS Red Line goes to the airport (but then, you'd have to get to the airport), with a change to other lines to get to Nana or Asoke (Cowboy), and it does stop at midnight. NO personal experience, just google.

There is the Grab app, ride hailing, but I've never used.

Sure there is some [I]marginal[/I] prospects out there, but I'd suggest hitting the [I]bright lights[/I].

If you haven't been, I'd definitely hit Sakura Akasuri up on Soi 55, short walk from Thong Lo BTS station (also Tulip). I go to Sakura for the scrub and salt tapping, with happy ending or B2B available, no personal experience with FS. FR's posted. For us old hands, Meet the World, Patpong 2, and their [I]rugby scrum[/I], likewise, FR's posted. Bier Garden, Soi 7, has joined Cyclone and Rattlesnake.

Like in "The Wild Bunch", "It ain't like the old days, but, ah, it'll do."

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Tvataham274;2874640]Where is the best go-to place to exchange money, or has reliable ATMs around Sukhumvit, perhaps around Sukhumvit 25 or 18?[/QUOTE]I've found Super Rich in Basement of Emporium Mall to have good rates. Usually better than I find along Sukhumvit.

[QUOTE=Stimulus99;2874610]Another Insanity vet here. Pre-covid days were just *different* !

Last night, /// we rocked up to Honey///. Can't recall if it was pre-covid or 2021, but it was exactly the same: a smattering of losers (harsh epiphany notwithstanding!) of both genders -- the ladies kept waving at me to invite them, but I could only manage LOLs in response.///PM me if or post if you chance upon a real FL club on a Monday night.[/QUOTE]Anyone have experience with Sugar, Levels, BlaqLyte or Route 66?

Of course I will report back when I hit these clubs. Actually, I will only have time for one of the clubs, and I will probably try Sugar based on very little information that I have gleaned from google searches (unless I get some advice from someone here on the board).

[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2874824]Anyone have experience with Sugar, Levels, BlaqLyte or Route 66?

Of course I will report back when I hit these clubs. Actually, I will only have time for one of the clubs, and I will probably try Sugar based on very little information that I have gleaned from google searches (unless I get some advice from someone here on the board).[/QUOTE]Last December, I tried Levels with three buddies. We ordered bottle service along with a table, but it was really boring nothing like Illusion in Phuket or Insomnia from a few years ago.

So I was 3 nights in BKK before going to Phuket and then 1 night before coming back home. I had sex all 4 nights: I had chosen a hotel near Nana to avoid any issue (4 Points Sheraton, very nice and cheap compared to western prices). First night I went to Thermae which, apart from the crowd (I might have gotten a cold in there as there were 200 people in a very small room) is heaven on earth. Ladies all in line, no BS they just tell you their price and you decide. The prettiest ask for 4 k, the ugliest for 2 k, the nice ones 3 k. I took one for 3 k and brought her to the hotel which was really round the corner (no questions asked from reception). Fairly quick thing but a nice one, good attitude from the girl although she was clearly faking it but at least it was a good fake. She asked for additional 300 for taxi, I gave her 200 and off she went. Second night went to Stocking Massage as I have a huge fetish for stocking. The place was a bit dodgy but the number of available girls was large, about 15. Many were a 3 or a 4 but you had a couple of 7 and an 8 which I chose. Massage was good and then a good session. All in all I came out happy although the room in which they put us was not so nice. Third night went to kokoro, I booked a specific girl and it was a bit of a disappointment as the AV dress up which they boast about is really just a little dress, the massage was a soapy one with lots of sponging you and soaping, some might like it but I did not. Finally we went on the bed and had a fairly average session where I had to come by myself as she was not arousing me so much. Final day had planned another massage place called honey bee but when I got there all girls were quite ugly, toured a few other places nearby and the only one where I found some beauties was called wonder massage. I paid for 1 HR but ended doing 45 minutes as the girl was pretty but clearly inexperienced. But at least she was a real real beauty. For my reports on Phuket please see the relevant thread. Ciao.

Only research I can do. You are welcome.

Nana Schoolgirl is very Lucent. Speaks clearly and understandable when not High.

Apparently she works for a Bar. 700 Barfine.

14,000 long time.

7,000 Short time. She classifies 2 Hours.

This is Soi 6 Pricing. Inside Joke for our Pattaya Members.

WTF is going on.

For reference Rainbow Superstar 1,000 baht barfine. 3,000 Shortime.

[QUOTE=Davey1965;2874809]I've found Super Rich in Basement of Emporium Mall to have good rates. Usually better than I find along Sukhumvit.[/QUOTE]Somehow running around looking for an exchange at that gives me 34.2 vis a vis 34.1 seems to be a waste of time. How much you going to lose on $1,000, $2?

[QUOTE=BigDaddy1906;2874616]The good news is that I'll be in Bangkok in the middle of January for a conference for about a week. The bad news is, they have us at a hotel near Don Muang Airport. I'm fully prepared to take a cab to Nana after the daily sessions end but I was wondering if anyone had any "insight" as to possible "activities" closer by. I would do an escort service but it wouldn't be feasible to bring them to the hotel. I've RTFF but came up empty.

Also, since it has been many years since I was last in Bangkok, how much would a taxi run me from Don Muang to Nana? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Big Daddy, there has been a recommendation to you to head over to Patpong. Don't waste your time.

[QUOTE=Stimulus99;2874610]Another Insanity vet here. Pre-covid days were just *different* !

Last night, after disparate ups and downs drinking with a few Nana gems, I was waiting outside for one to get changed after shift -- but time passes, and if you're not hungry, you get in the way. So after wandering around a bit, having a street beer I didn't need -- I was accosted by a tout making promises to come to "late night bar, many pretty girls!

RESIST! LOL.

After a longer than wanted ride, we rocked up to Honey, and the flashback of being there before all flooded back. Can't recall if it was pre-covid or 2021, but it was exactly the same: a smattering of losers (harsh epiphany notwithstanding!) of both genders -- the ladies kept waving at me to invite them, but I could only manage LOLs in response.

Currently making plans with Belvaros's lass for tonight. But PM me if or post if you chance upon a real FL club on a Monday night.[/QUOTE]Never go with these guys. Bangkok has plenty to offer. If the bar needs these guys to find customers for them, there is something just not right, such as underage girls and drugs. You for sure want to stay clear of these types of places.

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2874797][B]BigDaddy1906[/B]: LONG time since the Sand Box, hope you are well.

Like in "The Wild Bunch", "It ain't like the old days, but, ah, it'll do."

Cheers.[/QUOTE]11 Bravo!! I can ALWAYS count on you to give me the "Dragnet" version. "Just the facts. ".

I had a feeling that the taxi rout would be the way to go. I just wanted to see if there were other viable options. I'm sure I can get a taxi from the hotel and I presume I can get one at Nana for the return trip. I'll keep you posted.

[QUOTE=BigDaddy1906;2874907]11 Bravo!! I can ALWAYS count on you to give me the "Dragnet" version. "Just the facts. ".

I had a feeling that the taxi rout would be the way to go. I just wanted to see if there were other viable options. I'm sure I can get a taxi from the hotel and I presume I can get one at Nana for the return trip. I'll keep you posted.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the "Dragnet" reference, old times.

One thing if you have all day to experiment with BTS / MRT line changes, but when your time is limited, and you have [I]things[/I] to do, and I use [I]things[/I] in the most general of contexts, I'd go with a taxi. Returning, you might get a refusal, I'd try again, and if a third, then I'd up the ante a bit. I think while I was there last month, they raised the authorized meter rate. I always check that the meter gets turned on, but if push came to shove, I'd go flat rate as long as it was not OTT. You might ask at the hotel's desk what the rate should be, and to avoid the "Nana" taint, say you want to check out the new mega mall, Emsphere (Sukhumvit, between soi 22 and Emporium). Also, being paranoid, I might not take the hotel's designated taxi (kickbacks) unless it was strictly meter. I usually just flag a passing one on the street. The girls will know the ST hotels. There used to be a very decent one on soi 7/1 (Sukhumvit), Atlas Hotel, hourly rates, used by the Bier Garden (RIP) ladies, but haven't used it for a long time. Can't say if it's still a valid ST hotel. Not too far down the soi, left hand side. In the same soi, Annies, but ONLY the NAME moved from the Rajah hotel original Annies. From what I've heard, no interest in visiting.

BTW, your mailbox is full.

Visited Wonder Massage and want to share the review here. First ever post, please be kind (TWSS).

Selection:

Visited at around 4 pm. The lady with the specs in the reception was very welcoming. Handed me a water bottle first and made me sit. About 30 secs later a round up of 5 girls. 2 of them caught my attention, went with a tall slim northern looking Thai girl. Name Violin (I did play her well).

Rates match their website.

Experience:

Once done with payment, the girl took me to the room and asked me to undress, while she also did. Real huge boobs and a slender figure, tiny ass. Was already starting to make my buddy a little hard.

The room was dimly lit and felt like my then dorm room with a tub, but neat and smelled nice. After that we went into the tub where she gave me a bath. She was really good with her slender and soft hands, made my expectations of the massage really high. Off to the bed after drying, I couldn't take my eyes off those huge boobs. She dried off and joined me.

She started with the back massage, boy her hands are amazing. The best massage in a soap house ever. She stopped for a while and played music from her phone, good relaxing English music, added to the whole dorm GFE experience I guess. We talked for a bit when she massaging my legs, she has great attitude and speaks English very well.

Off to a great CB, vacuum cleaner like suction- did a great job and my buddy was super hard. She rode me while I played with her boobs. Did it in a few positions she was horny and really wet, didn't need lube. Pussy was tight enough, I came doing doggy.

We chatted for a bit about Thailand and she was interested to know more about my country. Off to the 2nd round in about 10 minutes, did a few positions and I told her I wanted to cum on her boobs. She obliged and got on her knees. Deed done, chit chat while wearing clothes. She walked me till the lobby and we said our goodbyes.

Sex- 9/10.

Pussy - 8/10.

CB- 9/10.

Attitude - 10/10 (GFE).

Boobs- 10/10.

[QUOTE=BigDaddy1906;2874907]11 Bravo!! I can ALWAYS count on you to give me the "Dragnet" version. "Just the facts. ".

I had a feeling that the taxi rout would be the way to go. I just wanted to see if there were other viable options. I'm sure I can get a taxi from the hotel and I presume I can get one at Nana for the return trip. I'll keep you posted.[/QUOTE]For return trip you need to be on the EVEN Numbered side of Suk. Best place to catch a cab is in front of the Landmark.

Use Grab if you want to make it easy.

[QUOTE=IndianTuna;2874942]
Pussy - 8/10.
[/QUOTE]What metrics are we using here to rate the pussy? Oder, introitus width, and clitorial hood length?

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2874895]Somehow running around looking for an exchange at that gives me 34.2 vis a vis 34.1 seems to be a waste of time. How much you going to lose on $1,000, $2?[/QUOTE]Out the back door of the Emporium Mall. As you were going to Mango Massage, but head back toward Sukhumvit. It is across the street from a 7/11, but isn't everything?

I'll try to find the exact name of the place. But they do US $,pounds, euros, all SEA currencies, Indian and of course Chinese & Yen. Probably Russian shit currency now, too?

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2874895]Somehow running around looking for an exchange at that gives me 34.2 vis a vis 34.1 seems to be a waste of time. ... [/QUOTE]Well, yeah. That's why SuperRich is actually a pretty good answer. They aren't the absolute best rate in town, but they're always right up there near the top. Plus they're basically everywhere. No need to burn time running from exchange to exchange comparing rates. Just walk into most any upscale-ish mall (the street kisoks named 'SuperRich' are often fakes. Avoid.) and know you're getting a decent rate. Again not the absolute best rate, but you can be sure you're not getting clipped.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2874895]Somehow running around looking for an exchange at that gives me 34.2 vis a vis 34.1 seems to be a waste of time. How much you going to lose on $1,000, $2?[/QUOTE]I usually stay at the Hilton so it's super close to me. While walking I look at exchanges and yes while difference is small I look anyway just to see if my normal still has good rates. But no I don't shop for that little bit that some may do. However if exchange rate is good I will cash in some extra usd before leaving Bangkok Sometimes works and other times doesn't.

[QUOTE=MrSimp;2875064]$2. 00 is two Dunkin Donuts.[/QUOTE]I'd rather give the $2 to a homeless street person then use it on dunkin' donuts.

[QUOTE=TConor;2875060]Out the back door of the Emporium Mall. As you were going to Mango Massage, but head back toward Sukhumvit. It is across the street from a 7/11, but isn't everything? 555.

I'll try to find the exact name of the place. But they do US $,pounds, euros, all SEA currencies, Indian and of course Chinese & Yen. Probably Russian shit currency now, too?[/QUOTE]That's the name.

PM me if you want to meet up for a beer in BKK.

Planning to spend time in Nana Plaza and also check out Daisy Dream, Kokoro, La Belle, 7-heaven & Sakura Asakuri.

Speak basic Thai but haven't been for several years. Would be good to have a beer with fellow monger (s) & share experiences.

[QUOTE=IndianTuna;2874942]Visited Wonder Massage and want to share the review here. First ever post, please be kind (TWSS).

Selection:

Visited at around 4 pm. The lady with the specs in the reception was very welcoming. Handed me a water bottle first and made me sit. About 30 secs later a round up of 5 girls. 2 of them caught my attention, went with a tall slim northern looking Thai girl. Name Violin (I did play her well).

Rates match their website.

Experience:

Once done with payment, the girl took me to the room and asked me to undress, while she also did. Real huge boobs and a slender figure, tiny ass. Was already starting to make my buddy a little hard.[/QUOTE]After reading your post it made me think that 95% of the BJ's are in and out, in and out and not a SJ. A sucking job. As you said the vacuum sucking is a whole better experience. And for the most part women think it is a BJ not a SJ. The vocabulary has fucked up the experience.

Hi guys,

I'm very interested in visiting Thailand and possibly living here due to the extreme cheap cost of living and great quality of life. However, one big issue for me is that the women aren't thick. I'm going to be completely honest: I'm a guy that loves women with thick backsides and curves (such as Latinas). Is it possible at all for me to find that in Thailand? I would really like to visit here but I wish the women were thick. Please lmk if there are any and how I can go about finding them.

[QUOTE=VloneCarti;2875377]Hi guys,

I'm very interested in visiting Thailand and possibly living here due to the extreme cheap cost of living and great quality of life. However, one big issue for me is that the women aren't thick. I'm going to be completely honest: I'm a guy that loves women with thick backsides and curves (such as Latinas). Is it possible at all for me to find that in Thailand? I would really like to visit here but I wish the women were thick. Please lmk if there are any and how I can go about finding them.[/QUOTE]There are fat chicks everywhere.

It's not cheap here anymore.

[QUOTE=VloneCarti;2875377]Hi guys,

I'm very interested in visiting Thailand and possibly living here due to the extreme cheap cost of living and great quality of life. However, one big issue for me is that the women aren't thick. I'm going to be completely honest: I'm a guy that loves women with thick backsides and curves (such as Latinas). Is it possible at all for me to find that in Thailand? I would really like to visit here but I wish the women were thick. Please lmk if there are any and how I can go about finding them.[/QUOTE]Just Pattaya Soi 6. Lots of Thicc bad face girls. Cheap too.

Pro Tip. Don't start at 40 drinks. One is Fine.

Hahaha.

[QUOTE=VloneCarti;2875377]I'm going to be completely honest: I'm a guy that loves women with thick backsides and curves (such as Latinas).[/QUOTE]You are going to be disappointed if you are not into the body shape of what lives in thailand. Just go where you know they live. To be completely honest I think the body shape you like is unattractive and I love what they offer here in and around SEA which is not "latinas".

[QUOTE=VloneCarti;2875377]Hi guys,

I'm very interested in visiting Thailand and possibly living here due to the extreme cheap cost of living and great quality of life. However, one big issue for me is that the women aren't thick. I'm going to be completely honest: I'm a guy that loves women with thick backsides and curves (such as Latinas). Is it possible at all for me to find that in Thailand? I would really like to visit here but I wish the women were thick. Please lmk if there are any and how I can go about finding them.[/QUOTE]Why in the world Thailand! Land of slim ladies. Brazil is where it's at for you! Not only do Brasileiras have that unique Brasileira bunda, they are tops in bed and MUCH more GFE on average than Thai girls. I have been almost everywhere and Brasileiras have the best attitude for guys like us on planet earth.

I like both Thai girls and Brasileiras (I am big on face, plus there are all sizes and shapes in Brasil) but if I was gonna choose where to retire for the best girl scene it would be Brasil hands down.

The girls are getting fatter in Thailand due to the western fast food and new generation's work ethic. LOL When I watch youtube videos it seems there are more fatties than before. I really need a som tam diet so I'm not so fluffy.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2875565]Why in the world Thailand! Land of slim ladies. Brazil is where it's at for you! Not only do Brasileiras have that unique Brasileira bunda,[/QUOTE]For body types, I prefer Thais over Brazilians.

I prefer that the girl's ass is smaller than my ass.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2875581]For body types, I prefer Thais over Brazilians.

I prefer that the girl's ass is smaller than my ass.[/QUOTE]To each his own. But the original poster said he liked Latinas and thus my post. That said I want to correct a common misconception for those guys that have never been to Brasil or seen the unique hips to waist ratio an amazing brasileira can have. Normally we all use thick as a euphemism for fat. Many Brasilian girls — actually the ones I prefer — are neither thick nor fat. They can be very slim but have and amazing curvy ass and hips to waist ratio you don't find elsewhere. Their ass is neither fat nor gym body hard. It is plump and round and firm and can attached to a quite skinny waist.

I've never encountered it outside Brasileiras. Neither colombianas nor Mexicanas are endowed this way in general. Met a Vennie in Spain who was. I think everyone should give it a spin. It's unique worldwide.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2875424]There are fat chicks everywhere.[/QUOTE]Best Asian countries ime for non fat girls would be Vietnam and Japan. Both countries full of slim girls in their early 20's. Unfortunately 2 of the most difficult countries to learn the ins and outs. Not sure how the Hong Kong scene is since haven't been recently.

Best SEA city for non fat curvy girls is Jakarta. Indo girls are generally more busty and stay slimmer than their SEA counterparts. They also have some hips unlike most slim Thai girls.

Assuming the customer (who always cums first hahah) is not interested in 3rd world slums and / or filthy rural fuck hutches (ie the Philippines) and wants a decent city with restaurants, health care and well connected international jet airport:

Retail price range:

Bangkok: about THB 2,000 / USD 56.88.

Rio: about REAL 200 / USD 41.00.

Western Europe: about EUR 120-180.

There is huge variation in pricing whether longer term engagement, looks and how gullible / desperate the buyer is, but the above will get you hour with a do-able woman. Western Europe is done for, at least double the price and conditions galore. USA. Forget it!

My own view is Rio has the best in quality of service, range of ladies by body type and race, and price. BBJCIM and DFK are pretty standard and anal common. Both Thailand and Brasil are a long trip from Europe and USA, so it's not realistic as a weekend jaunt.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2875581]For body types, I prefer Thais over Brazilians.

I prefer that the girl's ass is smaller than my ass.[/QUOTE]I am with you on that, brother, and I am turned off by fake breasts as well of which there is no shortage in LOS or Brazil. But I assure you there are plenty of slim ass Brazilian girls with beautiful natural breasts waiting for you to look their way. Ha Ha. Just check out Scandallo sometime and you will know what I am talking about.

So, the main reason I am back in SP for my 6th consecutive visit since covid, and I have not returned to BKK since 2019: is that on Average, Brazilian girls are better in bed, period! They are better lovers because they put more passion and physicality into their sex than your average Thai Go Go girl or massage girl. I really don't have an explanation for it other than it is most likely a cultural phenomenon, but perhaps part of the explanation for this is that Brazilian Boates, Termas, Clinicas, and Prive's exist mainly to satisfy and service Brazilian men and the local guys know how to keep the girls honest and unspoiled. Fortunately, Gringos (farangs – ha ha) are welcome in Brazilian bordellos. In other words, there is no segregated tourist market in Brazil. And that is a very big deal.

The only downside, of course, is Brazilian girls are even less likely to bareback than Thai girls, who and as we all know, are less likely to bareback than Khmer, Filipina, Burmese, and Indonesian girls.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2875635]Assuming the customer (who always cums first hahah) is not interested in 3rd world slums and / or filthy rural fuck hutches (ie the Philippines) and wants a decent city with restaurants, health care and well connected international jet airport:
My own view is Rio has the best in quality of service, range of ladies by body type and race, and price. BBJCIM and DFK are pretty standard and anal common. Both Thailand and Brasil are a long trip from Europe and USA, so it's not realistic as a weekend jaunt.[/QUOTE]Being in Oz a 8/9 HR flight to Thailand, Phil, etc is more palatable and cheaper than a flight to Europe, Brazil. Also if only Africa was closer too. Because I'm a spoilt brat and need to fly business 10 k just for airfares gets ridiculous too. Bali is 6 and a bit hrs away. Anyone coming to Oz forget cheap mongering here, average decent performer costs minimum 200 US an hour. I suppose that's one of the drawbacks of living in one of the BEST countrys in the world.

NI.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2875630]Best Asian countries ime for non fat girls would be Vietnam and Japan. Both countries full of slim girls in their early 20's. Unfortunately 2 of the most difficult countries to learn the ins and outs. Not sure how the Hong Kong scene is since haven't been recently.

Best SEA city for non fat curvy girls is Jakarta. Indo girls are generally more busty and stay slimmer than their SEA counterparts. They also have some hips unlike most slim Thai girls.[/QUOTE]I totally agree, but Vietnam and Japan seem too complicated for me, too many rules and customs. Forgetaboutit! And Hong Kong is DEAD! It was my last Asian city on my last 2019 SE Asian trip. I went out on a Friday night and I could not find one doable girl in any of the former great Wan Chai bars that I used to enjoy so much back in the day. The Viets and Thai girls are gone! All that remains are over the hill, unattractive, overweight Filipinas. IMHO, the demise of Hong Kong is a fucking tragedy. KKK /555.

Oh well, it is time to get ready for this evenings Boate good times. Tchau and good hunting.

A. H. (Natty).

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2875565]Why in the world Thailand! Land of slim ladies. Brazil is where it's at for you! Not only do Brasileiras have that unique Brasileira bunda, they are tops in bed and MUCH more GFE on average than Thai girls. I have been almost everywhere and Brasileiras have the best attitude for guys like us on planet earth.

I like both Thai girls and Brasileiras (I am big on face, plus there are all sizes and shapes in Brasil) but if I was gonna choose where to retire for the best girl scene it would be Brasil hands down.[/QUOTE]But one aspect is safety concerns. In Thailand you are pretty damn safe, period. But in South America you have to keep your head on a swivel.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2875651]I totally agree, but Vietnam and Japan seem too complicated for me, too many rules and customs. Forgetaboutit! And Hong Kong is DEAD! It was my last Asian city on my last 2019 SE Asian trip. I went out on a Friday night and I could not find one doable girl in any of the former great Wan Chai bars that I used to enjoy so much back in the day. The Viets and Thai girls are gone! All that remains are over the hill, unattractive, overweight Filipinas. IMHO, the demise of Hong Kong is a fucking tragedy. KKK /555.

Oh well, it is time to get ready for this evenings Boate good times. Tchau and good hunting.

A. H. (Natty).[/QUOTE]I live in HK and spend more time in Bangkok, Pattaya and even Sydney on the P4P. HK sucks for pussy outside of getting a tres expensive GF. And who wants a bloody GF.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2875651]but Vietnam and Japan seem too complicated for me, too many rules and customs. Forgetaboutit! [/QUOTE]I offer you my personal sex tour guide services. All I ask in return is a delicious bowl of udon / ramen ($4 US) or pho ($5 US).

Need to pry you away from Brazil back to Asia.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2875646]I am with you on that, brother, and I am turned off by fake breasts as well of which there is no shortage in LOS or Brazil. But I assure you there are plenty of slim ass Brazilian girls with beautiful natural breasts waiting for you to look their way. Ha Ha. Just check out Scandallo sometime and you will know what I am talking about.

So, the main reason I am back in SP for my 6th consecutive visit since covid, and I have not returned to BKK since 2019: is that on Average, Brazilian girls are better in bed, period! They are better lovers because they put more passion and physicality into their sex than your average Thai Go Go girl or massage girl. I really don't have an explanation for it other than it is most likely a cultural phenomenon, but perhaps part of the explanation for this is that Brazilian Boates, Termas, Clinicas, and Prive's exist mainly to satisfy and service Brazilian men and the local guys know how to keep the girls honest and unspoiled. Fortunately, Gringos (farangs ha ha) are welcome in Brazilian bordellos. In other words, there is no segregated tourist market in Brazil. And that is a very big deal.

[B]The only downside, of course, is Brazilian girls are even less likely to bareback than Thai girls, who and as we all know, are less likely to bareback than Khmer, Filipina, Burmese, and Indonesian girls.[/b][/QUOTE]The part I highlighted is exactly why Brasil has never been on my "Must Monger There" list. Far more than half of the personal testimonies about it that I have gotten from fellow mongers is about how getting BBFS+CIP / Real Sex and even a simple BBBJ+CIM from those supposed Brazilian hotties is very rare.

When it comes to P4P, even more annoying, a bigger buzz kill and a greater waste of time and money for me than to hit a wall of NO on Real Sex at the point of (no) entry with an average looker that I conveniently met right around the corner from where I live is to hit a wall NO at the point of (no) entry with a really hot girl that I went to extraordinary lengths to book flights and a hotel room to meet based on the great expectation that all these hotties will deliver the world's best sex and "GFE". LOL.

I would not go back to Brazil either. Girls don't look or act feminine and way too much crimes.

South and Central America are not good for sex, tourism, entertainment, food.

I gave guys tips to crack the sex markets in Mexico, Phil, Vietnam, Thailand.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2875682]I offer you my personal sex tour guide services. All I ask in return is a delicious bowl of udon / ramen ($4 US) or pho ($5 US).
Need to pry you away from Brazil back to Asia.[/QUOTE]I've heard foreigners have issues getting in clubs, massage parlours and generally accessing Wg's.

Share some secrte squirrel intel please.

NI.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2875677]I live in HK and spend more time in Bangkok, Pattaya and even Sydney on the P4P. HK sucks for pussy [/QUOTE]So all the 141's in Causeway Bay and Mongkok suck now too? That's really too bad. I was thinking about going through HK on a stopover to/from SEA in the Fall. I miss flying Cathay.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2875756]So all the 141's in Causeway Bay and Mongkok suck now too? That's really too bad. I was thinking about going through HK on a stopover to/from SEA in the Fall. I miss flying Cathay.[/QUOTE]Cathay is the bomb. Mates that play poker in Macau I'd be betetr off going over there. I may as well just do what I do and come back to BKK and Pattaya.

[QUOTE=PahllusMaximus;2875635]Assuming the customer (who always cums first hahah) is not interested in 3rd world slums and / or filthy rural fuck hutches (ie the Philippines) and wants a decent city with restaurants, health care and well connected international jet airport:

Retail price range:

Bangkok: about THB 2,000 / USD 56.88.

Rio: about REAL 200 / USD 41.00.

Western Europe: about EUR 120-180.

There is huge variation in pricing whether longer term engagement, looks and how gullible / desperate the buyer is, but the above will get you hour with a do-able woman. Western Europe is done for, at least double the price and conditions galore. USA. Forget it!

My own view is Rio has the best in quality of service, range of ladies by body type and race, and price. BBJCIM and DFK are pretty standard and anal common. Both Thailand and Brasil are a long trip from Europe and USA, so it's not realistic as a weekend jaunt.[/QUOTE]I assume this is for street, not bars / massage / etc.

Hope everyone has "laid" out plans for ending the year on a boom boom!!

Having tried Fiwfans once on the last trip (in Sep / Oct), I am thinking of doing a Fiwfans / Sideline only trip in Jan. Maybe 3-4 days, meet 6-8 girls. Back in Oct I ended up going to Sukhumvit 55 to meet a girl on Fiwfans. From Nana area where I had stayed. Is there any "concentration" of Fiwfans girls, or some hotels which they usually stay in? Want to avoid time on the road as much as I can by staying closer or in the same hotel (done this in Dubai a couple of times, Tecom area). Also Sukhumvit has stated to get boring with the repetition now.

If any one has insights on the Fiwfans meeting ground, please DM or share here. Thanks in advance and safe mongering!!

[QUOTE=MickeyDuck1208;2875803]Hope everyone has "laid" out plans for ending the year on a boom boom!!

Having tried Fiwfans once on the last trip (in Sep / Oct), I am thinking of doing a Fiwfans / Sideline only trip in Jan. Maybe 3-4 days, meet 6-8 girls. Back in Oct I ended up going to Sukhumvit 55 to meet a girl on Fiwfans. From Nana area where I had stayed. Is there any "concentration" of Fiwfans girls, or some hotels which they usually stay in? Want to avoid time on the road as much as I can by staying closer or in the same hotel (done this in Dubai a couple of times, Tecom area). Also Sukhumvit has stated to get boring with the repetition now.

If any one has insights on the Fiwfans meeting ground, please DM or share here. Thanks in advance and safe mongering!![/QUOTE]Suk 55, On nut, all over. Stay centrally.

[QUOTE=MickeyDuck1208;2875803]Hope everyone has "laid" out plans for ending the year on a boom boom!!

Having tried Fiwfans once on the last trip (in Sep / Oct), I am thinking of doing a Fiwfans / Sideline only trip in Jan. Maybe 3-4 days, meet 6-8 girls. Back in Oct I ended up going to Sukhumvit 55 to meet a girl on Fiwfans. From Nana area where I had stayed. Is there any "concentration" of Fiwfans girls, or some hotels which they usually stay in? Want to avoid time on the road as much as I can by staying closer or in the same hotel (done this in Dubai a couple of times, Tecom area). Also Sukhumvit has stated to get boring with the repetition now.

If any one has insights on the Fiwfans meeting ground, please DM or share here. Thanks in advance and safe mongering!![/QUOTE]A lot of them seem to be at kokotel bkk (I believe theres two kokotel at bkk tho, not sure if the other one has ladies too), atleast from the two agencies that I tried out. You can notice it in some of their pictures they posted too. It has the hotels logo from the room. I recommend Baimon from Madam888, my fav so far.

[QUOTE=Lcale1982;2875868]A lot of them seem to be at kokotel bkk (I believe theres two kokotel at bkk tho, not sure if the other one has ladies too), atleast from the two agencies that I tried out. You can notice it in some of their pictures they posted too. It has the hotels logo from the room. I recommend Baimon from Madam888, my fav so far.[/QUOTE]Kokotel Thonglor is where I had met one last time, but had not pinged anyone else. Good to know that is a haunt, thanks.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2875804]Suk 55, On nut, all over. Stay centrally.[/QUOTE]Got it, thanks.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2875756]So all the 141's in Causeway Bay and Mongkok suck now too? That's really too bad. I was thinking about going through HK on a stopover to/from SEA in the Fall. I miss flying Cathay.[/QUOTE]HK sucks for value for money p4 p mate. I don't bother very often and can't be bothered with trying for troublesome GF freebies.

[QUOTE=TConor;2875664]But one aspect is safety concerns. In Thailand you are pretty damn safe, period. But in South America you have to keep your head on a swivel.[/QUOTE]I prefer the culture in Thailand and Cambodia to the culture in South American countries. That's primarily because I'm from the US, and have grown up and have been constantly exposed to Spanish culture forever. It's not interesting to me, nor particularly unique. And I speak New York Spanglish too.

[QUOTE=MickeyDuck1208;2875803]Hope everyone has "laid" out plans for ending the year on a boom boom!!
Having tried Fiwfans once on the last trip (in Sep / Oct), I am thinking of doing a Fiwfans / Sideline only trip in Jan. Maybe 3-4 days, meet 6-8 girls. Back in Oct I ended up going to Sukhumvit 55 to meet a girl on Fiwfans. From Nana area where I had stayed. Is there any "concentration" of Fiwfans girls, or some hotels which they usually stay in? Want to avoid time on the road as much as I can by staying closer or in the same hotel (done this in Dubai a couple of times, Tecom area). Also Sukhumvit has stated to get boring with the repetition now.
If any one has insights on the Fiwfans meeting ground, please DM or share here. Thanks in advance and safe mongering!![/QUOTE]Prices seem quite cheap? Are photos heavily airbrushed or fake? When you think a skanky FL on Suk Rd is asking for 2000 for ST, these prices for this quality seems a steal.

Is it because they are semi pro or?

NI.

Can someone explain what FIWfans is?

It seems you can get a girl for a cheap price.

I went to the website but it is fully written thai.

So I am guessing it is not meant for us?

Hi,

I was last night around Nana Palace.

I saw several woman wearing nihab offering sex. Is this as Scampi or real?

[QUOTE=NewImage;2876031]Prices seem quite cheap? Are photos heavily airbrushed or fake? When you think a skanky FL on Suk Rd is asking for 2000 for ST, these prices for this quality seems a steal.

Is it because they are semi pro or?

NI.[/QUOTE]Prices do seem out of Whack. By a large amount.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2876031]Prices seem quite cheap? Are photos heavily airbrushed or fake? When you think a skanky FL on Suk Rd is asking for 2000 for ST, these prices for this quality seems a steal.

Is it because they are semi pro or?

NI.[/QUOTE]In my experiences with fiwi fans what you see on the screen is not necessarily what you get.

1st time looking at Noodle Lady Livestream.

Hot or Not.

Only 2 choices.

I'd have to swipe NOT.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2875947]HK sucks for value for money p4 p mate. [/QUOTE]I'm not concerned about the value part since I'll be a 1 to 2 week millionaire. If money is out of the picture does the scene still suck?

[QUOTE=Xiggo;2876050]Can someone explain what FIWfans is?

It seems you can get a girl for a cheap price.

I went to the website but it is fully written thai.

So I am guessing it is not meant for us?[/QUOTE]This site I saw mentioned has most of the ladies from FF, [URL]https://www.bkkline.com/en[/URL].

There is a lot of airbrushing on the photos some more than others, especially making their skin lighter. From my experience the really cheap ones like 1100 are cheap for a reason. Maybe if you know some thai you would get better service.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2876124]I'm not concerned about the value part since I'll be a 1 to 2 week millionaire. If money is out of the picture does the scene still suck?[/QUOTE]Like most things in this WAR we fight mate, YMMV. There are some absolute stunners at bars in hotels looking for other $$ from predominantly SEA blokes. I was quoted US $800 for an absolute 10/10 girl who turned out to be Hungarian, but she spoke with little or no accent. FWIW, I rarely go to the old RLDs but if you have game there are semi pros and freebies in the hotels, shopping malls, restaurants and other.

Given the cost of hotels, the pussy prices probably aren't that bad (say $850-1500 a night at the Mandarin Oriental HK vs $250 per night at the Hilton Pattaya equates to 3/1-6/1 price vig for pussy so that would be about right).

I have used asiandate and other online but there are so many weeds to go through to find a nice piece of GR (ASS). I know guys who use various online sites but still get ridiculous quotes.

I have taken Chinese / other Asian ladies, one or 2 Romanian, French, even Moroccan girls home from PDT bar and Mo Bar (Landmark Mandarin) and paid some big $$ I've also had a few freebies who became girlfriends but then like most free women became too demanding and $ driven.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2876124]I'm not concerned about the value part since I'll be a 1 to 2 week millionaire. If money is out of the picture does the scene still suck?[/QUOTE]Those high end bars I mentioned charge like $150 HK up for cocktails, Irish Whiskey from around $120 HK etc but there is some HOT WOMEN for sure after 8 pm.

There are similar opportunities in other hotel bars, I've tried or watched the scenes at; Sheraton, Regent, 4 Seasons, Peninsula (MILF / GILF), but because I live here I have plenty of time to research and try each out. For a 1 week business trip hou may be better using your tried and true methods.

[QUOTE=Lcale1982;2876146]
There is a lot of airbrushing on the photos some more than others, especially making their skin lighter.[/QUOTE]This is only going to get worse with AI being more prevalent I would like to see some of these services offer a "no filter" option so that we know what to expect. Even if it involves a subscription fee or VIP status. It's fine if the girls do it on their own personal page but when you are selling something kind of false advertising if they alter their appearance. At least in the context of working girls.

[QUOTE=MrSimp;2876070]Prices do seem out of Whack. By a large amount.[/QUOTE]It's the prices punters are paying at the Go-Gos that are out of whack. It's incredibly unfortunate that what was once a place for both tourists and locals has become a complete tourist trap.

[QUOTE=Ronin63;2875784]I assume this is for street, not bars / massage / etc.[/QUOTE]The prices of the girls vary widely. I am interested in Thai Friendly girls, and some of the me quote me 3000ST, others 2500ST (most common), 3000 LT, 10000 LT, etc.

I think that every girl has her price, like every guy has his price point. I have to say that if I knew of a beautiful girl who was completely GFE (let me define this as BBBJ, DFK, BBFS, sex whenever I am interested +/- anal), I would be willing to pay top dollar. I can find plenty of beautiful freelancers on ThaiFriendly, but performance is hard to know ahead of time, no matter what is promised. But finding the perfect girl is all part of the fun (as long as one has the time). Usually, when I am there for 7-10 days, I find one or two who are willing to do everything I want. And, of course, Thai women are typically gorgeous.

I have long thought it is a shame that the ISG isn't like [URL]gpguia.net[/URL] (a Brazilian website that is a bit like ***). EVERY girl that is reviewed has a mark for DFK, BBBJ and anal. This would go a long way to helping mongers make decisions. It would be good if the reviews on this site were a little more informative (and, if there were a lot less reminiscing about the good old days when girls were almost free and all of them were beautiful and gave BBFS).

[QUOTE=Xiggo;2876050]Can someone explain what FIWfans is?
It seems you can get a girl for a cheap price.I went to the website but it is fully written thai.So I am guessing it is not meant for us?[/QUOTE]Be interested in anyone's experiences with this. Esp in my mind its prob easier to got to a bar or FL there and then. Wouldn't want to travel then turn up and walk because pic are not accurate or some other kind of bait & switch.

NI.

Just arrived in Thailand for first time since March, with my 3 weeks stay being split between BKK and Hua Hin. Some initial observations on what's changed in the last 9 months:

1) I normally stay on Soi 8 and sometimes walk across the road and up Soi 11. There was a growing number of small beer bars on the left hand side of the road, but they have all gone (to be replaced by a big hoarding prior to some large office block appearing?)

2) The Beer Garden on Soi 7 is gone, to be replaced by lots of little bright shiny beer bars (perhaps those from Soi 11 have relocated). Place looks a bit of a mess.

3) Lots of black girls offering their services outside the Novotel on Soi 4. Mostly average looking.

4) Chating with girls on TF. Most from BKK looking for around 3 k, those from HH appear happy with 1.5 k.

5) Lots of nice looking girls outside Thermae. I'm the wrong side of 60 and English, but all the girls I made eye contact with smiled at me (and would probably have done a turn if I was interested).

To help shake off the jet lag I tried Wood bar on Soi 7 for a BJ (never been before). OK service but nothing special. What do you expect for 800 B.

[QUOTE=Kforab;2876056]Hi,

I was last night around Nana Palace.

I saw several woman wearing nihab offering sex. Is this as Scampi or real?[/QUOTE]Are you talking about the fat things that hang out further down the street? They are monsters.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2876239]It's the prices punters are paying at the Go-Gos that are out of whack. It's incredibly unfortunate that what was once a place for both tourists and locals has become a complete tourist trap.[/QUOTE]Which is why I get the majority of my gash at Thermae.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2876251]Be interested in anyone's experiences with this. Esp in my mind its prob easier to got to a bar or FL there and then. Wouldn't want to travel then turn up and walk because pic are not accurate or some other kind of bait & switch.

NI.[/QUOTE]Well a brief review of the forum will tell you all you want to know about it. There are folks here that like it and there are folks here that think it's a waste. If you live here, know your way around, know the game, it's worth it if you're willing to put the time in. If you don't live here, it's throwing the dice. You could very well end up in the middle of nowhere with some 45-year-old that was 21 online.

[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2876273]Just arrived in Thailand for first time since March, with my 3 weeks stay being split between BKK and Hua Hin. Some initial observations on what's changed in the last 9 months:

1) I normally stay on Soi 8 and sometimes walk across the road and up Soi 11. There was a growing number of small beer bars on the left hand side of the road, but they have all gone (to be replaced by a big hoarding prior to some large office block appearing?)

2) The Beer Garden on Soi 7 is gone, to be replaced by lots of little bright shiny beer bars (perhaps those from Soi 11 have relocated). Place looks a bit of a mess.

3) Lots of black girls offering their services outside the Novotel on Soi 4. Mostly average looking.

4) Chating with girls on TF. Most from BKK looking for around 3 k, those from HH appear happy with 1.5 k.

5) Lots of nice looking girls outside Thermae. I'm the wrong side of 60 and English, but all the girls I made eye contact with smiled at me (and would probably have done a turn if I was interested).

To help shake off the jet lag I tried Wood bar on Soi 7 for a BJ (never been before). OK service but nothing special. What do you expect for 800 B.[/QUOTE]Wow when I left two weeks ago or so the beer garden was still there LOL.

[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2876273]
2) The Beer Garden on Soi 7 is gone, to be replaced by lots of little bright shiny beer bars (perhaps those from Soi 11 have relocated). Place looks a bit of a mess.[/QUOTE]Actually, it's still there (just like Annies still exists... in name only). If you go to the far end of the bar area, to the fence on the alley down to Soi 5, and look CLOSE, that's what the Beer Garden has [B]SHRUNK[/B] to. A small horseshoe bar, Beer Garden sign above, with a couple of pool tables in front. When I was there last month, some other members of my [I]generation[/I] were spotted walking down soi 7, looking around, rather bemused. Mamasan went running out to the street with a "It's here, it's here, this is the Beer Garden". Well, at least its tombstone. Another way to spot: if you remember the alter and the tree at the OLD garden's entrance? The tree is still there (though Mamasan said the other tree had been cut down - "for money").

[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2876273]To help shake off the jet lag I tried Wood bar on Soi 7 for a BJ (never been before). OK service but nothing special. What do you expect for 800 B.[/QUOTE]IMHO, for jet lag, a better option is the MRT to Silom, and Meet the World on Patpong Soi 2. Ring the bell, [I]rugby scrum[/I].

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2876239]It's the prices punters are paying at the Go-Gos that are out of whack. It's incredibly unfortunate that what was once a place for both tourists and locals has become a complete tourist trap.[/QUOTE]Yep.

Thank you again, 11 Bravo, your post really make sense!

I shook off my jet lag today at Meet the World, didn't have to ring. Lady outside; 3 more inside. Age range 25 to 40, no stunners but very doable. And because I was first client today, three of them squirmed all over me at the bar; boobs everywhere, and at least two hands in my pants. Thought, WTF, I'll take all three of them to the couch. They rapidly undressed me, and took turns blowing, working my nipples and DFK. I have had better blowjobs, but it was not wrong, and three enthousiastic ladies at one time made come rrather quick.

The old lady behind the bar tried to scam me for 4000, but I worked it down to 2500, and finished my coke, surrounded by the crew asking to come back to boom-boom them all.

Neighbourhood was more than dead.

Jet lag ws not over after my visit to Meet the World this morning; after a shower in my soi 4 hotel, on the road again, walked past Kasalong and saw a young and slim pretty lady outside between the not so young and not so slim, but further Ok ladies. Took my chance and she was good, with a lot of feeling, and deep!

Wanted a some rest afterwards and the idea of a relaxing massage was attractive, a normal one, and decided to visit Nang Seeda, underneath the Nana BTS station; have passed there often before, and was always impressed by the line-up outside, lookers, young and more mature. And because they're al wearing uniform black, I had the idea it was just regular massage. And it was to start with, but very shortly after turning on my back, the very attractive lady whose name I have not remembered, offered me even BBFS for an extra 2000, above the regular 500. I politely thanked her and promised to come back quickly (I'm almost 70 and it was a hell of a day) But returning to Bangkok couldn't be better.

[QUOTE=Mari1256;2876317]Thank you again, 11 Bravo, your post really make sense!

I shook off my jet lag today at Meet the World, didn't have to ring. Lady outside; 3 more inside. Age range 25 to 40, no stunners but very doable. And because I was first client today, three of them squirmed all over me at the bar; boobs everywhere, and at least two hands in my pants. Thought, WTF, I'll take all three of them to the couch. They rapidly undressed me, and took turns blowing, working my nipples and DFK. I have had better blowjobs, but it was not wrong, and three enthousiastic ladies at one time made come rrather quick.

The old lady behind the bar tried to scam me for 4000, but I worked it down to 2500, and finished my coke, surrounded by the crew asking to come back to boom-boom them all.

Neighbourhood was more than dead.[/QUOTE]2500 for a hag BJ, no wonder the girls think punters are idiots.

Rip off.

Is it me or is our Precious Schoolgirl starting to look and smell PUTRID. Hahahahaha.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2876359]2500 for a hag BJ, no wonder the girls think punters are idiots.

Rip off.[/QUOTE]You're overreacting; 2500 for a 45 minute session with 3 girls + 4 drinks is not so bad.

[QUOTE=Mari1256;2876358]Jet lag ws not over after my visit to Meet the World this morning; after a shower in my soi 4 hotel, on the road again, walked past Kasalong and saw a young and slim pretty lady outside between the not so young and not so slim, but further Ok ladies. Took my chance and she was good, with a lot of feeling, and deep!

Wanted a some rest afterwards and the idea of a relaxing massage was attractive, a normal one, and decided to visit Nang Seeda, underneath the Nana BTS station; have passed there often before, and was always impressed by the line-up outside, lookers, young and more mature. And because they're al wearing uniform black, I had the idea it was just regular massage. And it was to start with, but very shortly after turning on my back, the very attractive lady whose name I have not remembered, offered me even BBFS for an extra 2000, above the regular 500. I politely thanked her and promised to come back quickly (I'm almost 70 and it was a hell of a day) But returning to Bangkok couldn't be better.[/QUOTE]Whoa there Cowboy, are you reporting a young quality mouth at Kasalong? What time in the morning was this? Kasalong is notorious for hags, you may have found a rarity.

I have to go out in this nasty air tomorrow, and I may walk past there. I got a BJ on Soi 7/1 earlier this year from a attractive girl so it can happen.

I hope you paid only these standard 800. You got ripped off at Meet the World, which for newbies is a place that you don't want to go.

[QUOTE=Mari1256;2876552]You're overreacting; 2500 for a 45 minute session with 3 girls + 4 drinks is not so bad.[/QUOTE]Your money your fun. I hope other people don't make your mistake.

[QUOTE=Mari1256;2876317]
The old lady behind the bar tried to scam me for 4000, but I worked it down to 2500, and finished my coke, surrounded by the crew asking to come back to boom-boom them all.[/QUOTE]Yep, Granny likes to put her own prices on the tab, but at least there's a tab to see. The heavyset Mamasan is legit, and you did get the going price: 800/ BBBJ / per lady, lady drink 150, Singha 100 (though I've paid 150). If you buy a lady drink, she will strip. Ringing the bell gets the nude [I]rugby scrum[/I]. Granny will try and charge 1500 FS, but it's 1200. Word of caution: the mattress on the bed looks solid, but it does have its [I]potholes[/I]. I like the music, a fan blowing directly on you is good enough a/c, and it is definitely [I]old school BKK[/I] vibe. And for 2500 for 3 ladies, 4 drinks - great deal.

MTW: not for everyone, but then again, I'm not everyone. It pleases the one who matters, me.

[QUOTE=11Bravo;2876309]Actually, it's still there (just like Annies still exists... in name only). If you go to the far end of the bar area, to the fence on the alley down to Soi 5, and look CLOSE, that's what the Beer Garden has [B]SHRUNK[/B] to. A small horseshoe bar, Beer Garden sign above, with a couple of pool tables in front. When I was there last month, some other members of my [I]generation[/I] were spotted walking down soi 7, looking around, rather bemused. Mamasan went running out to the street with a "It's here, it's here, this is the Beer Garden". Well, at least its tombstone. Another way to spot: if you remember the alter and the tree at the OLD garden's entrance? The tree is still there (though Mamasan said the other tree had been cut down - "for money").

IMHO, for jet lag, a better option is the MRT to Silom, and Meet the World on Patpong Soi 2. Ring the bell, [I]rugby scrum[/I].

Yep.[/QUOTE]I saw the sign, but didn't go right to the end. I assumed it was just a gravestone marking the burial place of an old friend.

[QUOTE=Mari1256;2876358]Jet lag ws not over after my visit to Meet the World this morning; after a shower in my soi 4 hotel, on the road again, walked past Kasalong and saw a young and slim pretty lady outside between the not so young and not so slim, but further Ok ladies. Took my chance and she was good, with a lot of feeling, and deep!

Wanted a some rest afterwards and the idea of a relaxing massage was attractive, a normal one, and decided to visit Nang Seeda, underneath the Nana BTS station; have passed there often before, and was always impressed by the line-up outside, lookers, young and more mature. And because they're al wearing uniform black, I had the idea it was just regular massage. And it was to start with, but very shortly after turning on my back, the very attractive lady whose name I have not remembered, offered me even BBFS for an extra 2000, above the regular 500. I politely thanked her and promised to come back quickly (I'm almost 70 and it was a hell of a day) But returning to Bangkok couldn't be better.[/QUOTE]That's a very good price for Nang Seeda.

It takes a lot of hard bargaining to get FS down to 2000 once inside, and they previously have been totally unwilling to discuss extras at all out on the street.

[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2876646]I saw the sign, but didn't go right to the end. I assumed it was just a gravestone marking the burial place of an old friend.[/QUOTE]I too saw the large sign over the complex, still there, so went looking for it. I was just about to give up when the mamasan bartender came running out, "Beer Garden is HERE". It was, and I feel sorry for whoever bought the name. I had a drink for old times sake and inquired about a t-shirt, but not my size. And I agree, it's now a shrine to some fond memories of some good times. I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did in that location.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2876239]It's the prices punters are paying at the Go-Gos that are out of whack. It's incredibly unfortunate that what was once a place for both tourists and locals has become a complete tourist trap.[/QUOTE]Yes, it really is sad. And it is of little consolation that prices in similar venues elsewhere have doubled or tripled too. This is price gouging. Plain and simple. I mean what is the rate of inflation in Thailand? Nevermind. We all can see that Pussy enjoys is very inelastic demand curve. I hear the Go Go's are still packed with customers. Amazing! But sooner or later this uncontrolled greed will kill the golden goose. I don't know when or at what price the market will peak and then break, but the economic law of supply and demand always wins in the end. Anybody remember the Amsterdam tulip bubble?

[QUOTE=Kforab;2876056]Hi, I was last night around Nana Palace. I saw several woman wearing nihab offering sex. Is this as Scampi or real?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2876282]Are you talking about the fat things that hang out further down the street? They are monsters.[/QUOTE]ROFL. I too spotted them and had my suspicions. I guess they may be trying to appeal to a certain demographic or fantasy. Not really my thing but it was entertaining to see. I also believe some may have been LBs.

I may be not completely sane, but in between all the exposed bodies, I have seen some hijab ladies hanging around close to the Novotel on Soi 4. They do excite me, there was one report on one of them in 2022, but are there more recent experiences to be told? Of course I can try for myself, which I probably will anyhow.

Lcal,

Thanks for the new info.

Looks like Mickey take her profile from FIWFANS and post it as independent in BKKLINE. She seems to complain FIWFANS sends little business, admin is slow, she's answering LINE herself and not going through them. I have no idea how things work in this area. FIWFANS handlers wrote back in good English, were quick and reliable, but I want to try independents as they would not have to pay a cut to handlers.

Translation from Thai text may have been misinterpreted and hard to understand. Any bro who can read Thai please shed some light into this new venue.

[URL]https://www.bkkline.com/en/sideline/406radnb0krcx1mwo[/URL]

"Mickey ม3636;3588;3585;3637;3657; Bangkok Lat Phrao.

Ladprao, Ratchada, Ratchayothin, Ramintra, Pinklao, Sena Khet Buengkum. Serithai, Siam Park, Min Buri, Ramintra, Fashion Island, Buengkum, Lat Phrao, Kaset Nawamin Ratchada, Thonglor, Sukhumvit, Asoke, Silom, Huai Khwang, Bangna, On Nut, Wanghin Phetkasem.

Prices starting at ฿2000.

ID line: at 129 qugkk.

Yes, new line, old one, full of very little work.

Getting the Phil Fan job doesn't speed up time, of course. I took the job myself, I don't have an admin. My job on the web is just a side job from my main job.

I'm sorry about the delay".

[QUOTE=Lcale1982;2876146]This site I saw mentioned has most of the ladies from FF, [URL]https://www.bkkline.com/en[/URL].

There is a lot of airbrushing on the photos some more than others, especially making their skin lighter. From my experience the really cheap ones like 1100 are cheap for a reason. Maybe if you know some thai you would get better service.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2876782]
Looks like Mickey....[/QUOTE]Tbh "Mickey" doesn't even look human in those photos.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2876782]Lcal,

Thanks for the new info.

Looks like Mickey take her profile from FIWFANS and post it as independent in BKKLINE. She seems to complain FIWFANS sends little business, admin is slow, she's answering LINE herself and not going through them. I have no idea how things work in this area. FIWFANS handlers wrote back in good English, were quick and reliable, but I want to try independents as they would not have to pay a cut to handlers.

Translation from Thai text may have been misinterpreted and hard to understand. Any bro who can read Thai please shed some light into this new venue.

[URL]https://www.bkkline.com/en/sideline/406radnb0krcx1mwo[/URL]

"Mickey ม3636;3588;3585;3637;3657; Bangkok Lat Phrao.

Ladprao, Ratchada, Ratchayothin, Ramintra, Pinklao, Sena Khet Buengkum. Serithai, Siam Park, Min Buri, Ramintra, Fashion Island, Buengkum, Lat Phrao, Kaset Nawamin Ratchada, Thonglor, Sukhumvit, Asoke, Silom, Huai Khwang, Bangna, On Nut, Wanghin Phetkasem.

Prices starting at ฿2000.

ID line: at 129 qugkk.

Yes, new line, old one, full of very little work.

Getting the Phil Fan job doesn't speed up time, of course. I took the job myself, I don't have an admin. My job on the web is just a side job from my main job.

I'm sorry about the delay".[/QUOTE]She it was not getting much business on fiwfans because her prices are way above the majority. And she's going to have the same problem on that site. Most of the gals on bkkline are also on fiwfans and for sure handled by the same agent. Agents post on multiple websites.

[QUOTE=Mari1256;2876771]I may be not completely sane, but in between all the exposed bodies, I have seen some hijab ladies hanging around close to the Novotel on Soi 4. They do excite me, there was one report on one of them in 2022, but are there more recent experiences to be told? Of course I can try for myself, which I probably will anyhow.[/QUOTE]Please give us a full report if you do. Make sure you note the extent of body hair, fat rolls, cellulite and breast droop / deflation. Don't be one of those dudes to just pull up the burka, bend her over and go at it. We need a full description, and then if it's beautifully detailed, I personally will nominate you for monger of the century.

You have already hit the bottom of the barrel at meet the world, now you need to really show as how low you can go. The only thing left would be the toothless ones down around Sanam Luang to put you into the Gutter Crawling Hall of Fame.

I arrived in Bangkok yesterday and was tired, not up for the jet-lag busting debauchery some people go for. I wanted a long and slow erotic massage and found Namaste online, everything arranged through Line. Them is the masseuse, 39 yrs old according to web page, and works from an apartment a LONG way down Soi 22. The massage was exactly what I wanted. Slow and sensual, almost GFE, really good HJ finish followed by more light massage. No BJ or full sex, panties stay on throughout. Service exactly as described on website. 2500 BHT for 90 minutes. Good for me, YMMV. [URL]https://namaste-tantra-bangkok.com/[/URL].

I just got back from a dry spell in Siem Reap, as is generally the case there, so I have been itching for some action. Unfortunately, my time back has been consumed with ordinary day-to-day stuff, which combined with the air has kept me away from the flesh pots. So I decided to pollute my lungs and get the hell out of the house last night, Monday.

My original plan was to warm up at a Go-Go to check out the talent, then do a 7/1 evaluation, then finish up at Thermae and Grab a train home. So I got to the Go-Go's early.

I stopped at my dudes weed stand Right there on the corner of soy Arab and grabbed a little bud. Far as I am concerned, as an American Stoner, he's the first place to go to if you're looking for we down there. Same stuff, lower price. And he doesn't give you scrapings in his pre-rolls like some of the other shops do.

After shooting the shit for a while, I walked over to Nana. There was a paucity of the usual street vendors for the last 50 m before Nana entrance, I assume that was because it's Monday, not because they're cleaning that portion of the sidewalk up. Schoolgirl was right at the Nana entrance wearing the same clothes I saw her wearing the last time I was down there. I hope she washes them. There was a good supply of deaf girls across the street. Remember this was early. 21:00 ish.

After a Coke and a smoke in the center bar, I popped into Bunnies. There was some cute young stuff in there, The mamasan told me though that they were new and she doesn't yet know how "naughty" they are.

I then went up to Billboard and they had the be team working on a Monday night. Not only was there a lack of quality, there were some uglies.

There was nothing to strike my eye and twisters nor in geisha.

Rainbow 5 had a nice percentage of hotties. There was a girl there and of course I can't remember her number that had the nicest body I have ever seen. I remember her from a month or so ago because her ass was so spectacular but it looks like she has some boobs now. I didn't know they heal that fast I've only been gone 3 weeks. On the other hand, when you look up close to her, her complexion is horrible under the makeup. Even though she's cute.

I bar find another one out of rainbow just because she really struck my eye and it was 3,000 for her and a thousand for the bar. Unlike billboard, you don't need to pay the Mamasan. She was a damn good time too.

I was tired out after my exertions so I kissed my date goodbye on ladyboy corner near the 7-Eleven and flagged down a TukTuk for a ride up to terminal 21 where I got a last minute pizza fix at Palo and hopped on the train.

Although I was watching it from the tuk tuk, I would say that there was a paucity of street stuff On the way up to terminal 21, except by Thermae.

That's your on the ground report for a smoggy Monday.

Here's my report for 4 days in Bangkok from the end of November:

Hotel:

I stayed at La petite Salil on Soi 11 and mostly for the ease of access to Sukhumvit. Room is a bit small, but you get what you pay for. No questions when bringing guest in.

Money:

I arrived slightly after midnight, so I pulled money from the ATM at the BKK using Schwab debit card.

I also used the SuperRich for money exchange since I had cash on-hand. I used the one at Asoke BTS once. I also used the one at MRT Sukhumvit (because Asoke BTS had a long line), which had no line and slightly better rate.

Plan in General:

I read the posts on this forum and went back for like the prior 6 months, so that gave me enough information to explore.

My general plan was to do tourist stuff during the day, and then out mongering at night. I know BJ bar isn't my thing, so my focus was on freelancer and gogo.

Day 1 - Thursday:

I arrived slightly after midnight and it took over 1. 5 hours from landing to get out of the BKK. The Airport Rail Link stops at midnight, so I took a taxi to the hotel. I asked the driver to run the meter, but he wanted tips beyond that. It was late and I was tired, so I just forked over ฿400 plus toll.

I went out at around 9 pm to Thermae. The place was pretty much packed. The girls stood along the sides and middle of the room; and the guys walked around in clockwise. It is like a human carousel. Lots of girls in 20's-30's, but some were older. I would say the quality was averaging around 6 or 7. I didn't see any stunner that I must have.

Once you get in, you have to buy a drink and I got a coke for ฿80. The girls were definitely prefer Japanese and Korean guys. The girls would try to pull them aside.

Since this was my first time there, I circled around a bit and tried to get a good look of the girls. There were so many choices, so I was hanging around for like 2 hours. LOL.

I was quoted ฿2500ST from this one girl. She spoke some broken English and said she is a mix of Thai and French. We chatted a bit and took a taxi back to my hotel.

She undressed and said she would shower first. Once she was done, then I showered next. After the shower, we caressed and kissed, and then went to the bed. She has nice perky tits that was my cup of tea. She kissed my body, gave BBBJ, put the condom on, then we mished. In the end, I finished in the bag with her in CG. We chilled a bit, then she went back to shower and left. And since I didn't have change, I just gave her ฿3000.

Lessons learned = Keep smaller bills.

Damage = ฿80 Drink + ฿2500ST + ฿500 Tip (since I didn't have change).

Day 2 - Friday:

I did too many tourist stuff until late in the evening. And since I was starving, I also went for the AYCE Korean BBQ. I didn't get out until like 11:30 pm.

I walked to Nana Plaza and peeked into Rainbow 4, Rainbow 5, Butterflies, and Billboard. All the mama-sans and waiters wanted to get you to take a seat and buy drinks. I tried to take a look of the talents before taking a seat. I ended up settled in Rainbow 5.

I sat down and ordered a drink (3647;165). And as soon as I ordered my drink, the girl I was eyeing got pulled by another guy. I just watched the girls dancing on stage and tried to find another one. After awhile, I saw another one I liked.

I asked the mama-san for that girl to sit with me. I also asked her if that girl can be barfined later on. She misunderstood me that I wanted to go straight to barfining her; but it was late and I just went straight to ฿4000ST plus ฿1000 barfine. The waiter also wanted a tip and I gave her ฿100 since I didn't have change. I was told that I have to pay the entire amount first, so I did. After that, the girl changed into regular cloths and we left.

I tried to talk to her as we go to my hotel, but she didn't seem to understand English and was just on the social media the whole taxi ride back. Once we were back at the hotel, she showered first and then I showered after. She then wanted to turn off light and I asked to keep one light on. She only wanted to do CBJ. The experience was very mechanical and she just seems uninterested. At that point, I just cut my losses and finish the deed.

Lessons learned = Don't do take out unless after talking to the girl.

Damage = ฿165 Drink + ฿4000ST + ฿1000 BF + ฿100 Waiter Tip.

Day 3 - Saturday:

Since I didn't have a good experience the previous night, I went back to Thermae for Day 3 as I know what to expect.

I got to Thermae at around 10 pm to Thermae. The place was as busy as Thursday. I was quoted ฿3000ST from this one girl. She spoke little English, but was tiny and looked very cute. We chatted a bit and walked back to my hotel.

We showered separately. After the shower, she gave BBBJ, but it was a bit toothy. So, I suited up and we did CG and doggy. Once we are done, she went back to shower and left.

Damage = ฿80 Drink + ฿3000ST.

Day 4 - Sunday:

I wanted to try Nana Plaza one more time. I went to Billboard to watch the girls in the bath, but didn't find anyone I like.

Then, I moved on to Geisha. I saw this one girl I liked, so I sat down, ordered a drink (3647;170), and asked the mama-san to pull her off the stage. I brought her one drink (3647;220); but mama-san also insisted on needing one, so I gave in for another ฿220. She chatted a little, then she danced on top of me and let my hand roam feel.

After awhile, mama-san asked if I want to barfine. I was quoted ฿3000 for 2 hours plus ฿1000 barfine. The vibe was good and I went for it.

We showered separately. After the shower, she laid on the bed and let me play with her. I started with kissing her body and then start fingering and DATY. She was shy, but also seems to enjoy it and was very wet. After awhile, I suited up to mish and finished with CG. After I was done, I continue to play with tits and fingering her. After about 1. 5 hours, she kept getting calls from her "sister" (which I think was her mama-san to call her back). I was very satisfied and just let her go.

Damage = ฿170 Drink + ฿440 LD + ฿3000ST + ฿1000 BF + ฿20 Waiter Tip.

Thanks for the past reports from others, and hope this report help someone in the future.

Was in Bangkok last week. Didn't sample much but did a trip to Maria's massage last Wednesday at about 7 PM. A guy greeted and guided me to the display area. There were probably over 50 ladies, mostly 6's and 7's in my estimation so I don't know why the prices are so steep. Weirdest thing was there were quite a number of 5's in the ultra high category (10 K Baht plus) and couldn't understand who would pick them at that price. Lots of Asian guys and just me as an Indian representative. Papasan kept directing me to a lady in black but in the end picked a next door type cute beauty (I would say 8) for 9000 Baht. Usual soapy stuff with a vigorous tit massage in the tub and sex in many positions on the bed. She was quite co-operative with the right amount of chirpiness and I left satisfied. Went to Thermae last Friday and the place was like a zoo with equal number of ladies and punters. Saw a real cutie who was snapped up within minutes after entering by a pair of Asian guys but the rest of them ranged from 5-7's with a few 8's. None caught my eye and I left after a beer. That was about it for the trip but Bangkok has definitely picked up like crazy after my last trip in January or so.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2876909] We need a full description, and then if it's beautifully detailed, I personally will nominate you for monger of the century.

You have already hit the bottom of the barrel at meet the world, now you need to really show as how low you can go. .[/QUOTE]Actually I really do not need to be monger of the century, so I will not make my report beautifully detailed. I love beautiful, hot women, all kinds of them, but I have always been attracted to the sleazy, dirty side as well. No reason that the two cannot exist next to each other.

But I did not reach rock bottom this time; actually it was a rather decent pick-up. There were 3 of these "Burkha Babes" as you describe them, and I spoke to the one that looked at first sight tall not too large and 30 ish. She spoke pretty good english, said she was from Egypt and emphasized that she was "well-educated" Wanted 2000 for ST, but it was not difficult to bargain that back to 1500. Walking back to the hotel hand in hand with a hijab woman was eery, but I could see the fun of that. In my room all the black coth dissappeared and there were no fat rolls, no deflated saggy breasts, no cellulitis, and just a toch of pubic hair. Remained a rather plain, tall woman, that was eager to please. And she did her best, her blowjob was soft and above medium, she wanted me to fuck her hard, but after my earlier excursion today to Tulip I could have been in a better shape, and I am an old man, so I finished in her mouth. A lot of conversation afterwards as her english was really above standard.

It will not be an action to be repeated, but more some kind of bucket list thing.

Could have been a lot worse!

[QUOTE=LifeIsLimited;2877045]Thanks for the past reports from others, and hope this report help someone in the future.[/QUOTE]And thanks to you for an excellent report. You read previous reviews, came to Thailand, and conquered with the knowledge you obtained in advance of your trip. And of course you provided a review.

I also appreciate Grebe925's report on Maria. I've been wanting to go there since I heard they had very good looking girls.