Phnom Penh

[QUOTE=Pyrrhus;2903672]I have been offered the opportunity to spend 5 weeks in Phnom Penh and I don't know whether to accept it.

It'll be for work but at least 95% of my time will be my own.

The problem in that I visited PP around 15 years ago (my pre-mongering days) and although I didn't dislike the city, there wasn't a whole lot to do and I feel like 5 weeks may be longer than I'd care to stay there. The only thing that's giving it some interest is the thought of banging some cheap young Khmer girls. But truth be told, I've no idea what the scene is like.

I like 18-21 year olds. Assuming I'm able to bring girls back to wherever I'm staying, is there a steady supply of girls in that age range? I'm assuming I'd need to find them in bars. What is the usual price for girls to stay all night and into the next morning?

Also, are there many massage parlours there these days?[/QUOTE]There hasn't been a lot of changes in the last 15 years except for the explosion of shopping malls. And and internet booking for local transportation via taxi or tuk tuk. Some of the old hangouts are gone but your weren't familiar with them in your pre-mongering days.

Main mongering venues are the hostess bars that have women / girls who are mostly 20-35 years old. Not a lot of 18-19, but you can find them. Bar fines are $10-$15; Overnight is always negotiable, but normal range is $50 and up. Most of the women shoot for $100. Unless you resemble Quasimoto, you can get acceptable for less.

Do not "assume" all hotels are guest friendly, though most are. Query the hotel directly via email. Some will allow outside guests, but charge a joiner fee.

Most massage joints are pretty lame compared to in Bangkok. Fishbowls, for instance, are relatively rare. The Street 63 massage joints full of Viets are a thing of the past.

SS.

[QUOTE=Pyrrhus;2903672]I have been offered the opportunity to spend 5 weeks in Phnom Penh and I don't know whether to accept it.[/QUOTE]The real questions are do you presently work in a city where hobbying is better than PP or do you think you will be offered a job in a better city during those 5 weeks? If the answers are no it's a no brainer imo.

All the answers about girls and pricing can easily be found in this forum. I could sit here and regurgitate the info but are you really going to base your decision on one or two stranger's opinions instead of doing your own legwork?

[QUOTE=Pyrrhus;2903672]I have been offered the opportunity to spend 5 weeks in Phnom Penh and I don't know whether to accept it.

It'll be for work but at least 95% of my time will be my own.

The problem in that I visited PP around 15 years ago (my pre-mongering days) and although I didn't dislike the city, there wasn't a whole lot to do and I feel like 5 weeks may be longer than I'd care to stay there. The only thing that's giving it some interest is the thought of banging some cheap young Khmer girls. But truth be told, I've no idea what the scene is like.

I like 18-21 year olds. Assuming I'm able to bring girls back to wherever I'm staying, is there a steady supply of girls in that age range? I'm assuming I'd need to find them in bars. What is the usual price for girls to stay all night and into the next morning?

Also, are there many massage parlours there these days?[/QUOTE]Jump on it. Seek and ye shall find. Its been awhile since I was there but in five weeks I'm sure you will find a special one or several. I had several in three days so you should be able to.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2903674]The real questions are do you presently work in a city where hobbying is better than PP or do you think you will be offered a job in a better city during those 5 weeks? If the answers are no it's a no brainer imo.

All the answers about girls and pricing can easily be found in this forum. I could sit here and regurgitate the info but are you really going to base your decision on one or two stranger's opinions instead of doing your own legwork?[/QUOTE]I hear what you're saying but it's not that straightforward. Hobbying is undoubtedly better in PP but if I'm specifically wanting girls in their late teens or very early 20's, I'm not sure whether PP will be able to offer me enough to make it worthwhile. I'm in my early 40's and in my home city, while there's no mongering to be found, I can usually still manage to pull girls in their late 20's / early 30's without having to pay them. Most importantly, my home city offers a whole lot more than sex to keep me entertained.

I have gone back through this forum and I guess I've learned all I can about pricing. But I'm still uncertain about the availability of girls in my preferred age range. Most of the reports I've read (amongst the bickering) involve girls who are a little older. I'm still keen to learn whether I could feasibly bang a different 18/19 yo every second night. Of my stay.

It's all slightly academic at the moment since there's no guarantee that my work would put me up in a girl friendly hotel. I wouldn't have much say in that matter, although I could potentially request an airbnb over a hotel.

Does anyone know if Sun & Moon Urban still charge the $10 fee for joiners?

When are US dollars used and when is riel used? When I change money there should I just get US dollars??

Where is there a secure money changers near S & M?

How much to tip. Both girls and service staff / housekeeping.

Good English breakfast / English Pub food.

Appreciate.

4 FoW2.

P.S. Nyezhov. Have cut back to 5 days.

[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2903673]There hasn't been a lot of changes in the last 15 years except for the explosion of shopping malls. And and internet booking for local transportation via taxi or tuk tuk. Some of the old hangouts are gone but your weren't familiar with them in your pre-mongering days.

Main mongering venues are the hostess bars that have women / girls who are mostly 20-35 years old. Not a lot of 18-19, but you can find them. Bar fines are $10-$15; Overnight is always negotiable, but normal range is $50 and up. Most of the women shoot for $100. Unless you resemble Quasimoto, you can get acceptable for less.

Do not "assume" all hotels are guest friendly, though most are. Query the hotel directly via email. Some will allow outside guests, but charge a joiner fee.

Most massage joints are pretty lame compared to in Bangkok. Fishbowls, for instance, are relatively rare. The Street 63 massage joints full of Viets are a thing of the past.

SS.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the thorough reply.

I didn't expect much to have changed. Hence my reluctance to accept the offer. As much as I like the idea of banging one girl after another for five weeks, I'd need something else to occupy my time. For the sake of my bank balance aswell as my sanity. I'm just not sure PP offers enough because I'm not much interested in shopping malls.

Having said that, I'm still undecided. If there were plenty of younger girls readily available, I wouldn't hesitate. Personally, I just don't have much interest in paying to be with anyone over 25 unless they are incredible looking. And even the 22-25 year olds would need to be fresh faced to get my interest. Ideally, I only want 18-21 year olds. I'll admid that I'm probably too picky for my own good. Do 18/19 year olds use Tinder much?

As far as massage parlours go, I've never really liked the fish bowl types anyway. And I don't usually go to massage parlours for FS. It's mostly just to lie back and be pampered for an hour without expending any energy. Obviously a happy ending is necessary. And I'll usually seek parlours that offer prostate massages.

And after making enquiries, I'm fairly sure I'd be staying in an airbnb near Tuol Tompoung Market. Would the bar girls be ok with that or do they only go to nearby hotels?

[QUOTE=NewImage;2903770]Does anyone know if Sun & Moon Urban still charge the $10 fee for joiners?

When are US dollars used and when is riel used? When I change money there should I just get US dollars??

Where is there a secure money changers near S & M?

How much to tip. Both girls and service staff / housekeeping.

Good English breakfast / English Pub food.

Appreciate.

4 FoW2.

P.S. Nyezhov. Have cut back to 5 days.[/QUOTE]Sunday& moon, still the 10 usd, needed, and strict ID requirement policy.

Money exchange everywhere, 1 usd - 4050 are around, but day time. Recommend some riel in hand. Mostly 1000 riel, sometime when tuktuk, street food or shopping in tiny store, they will say no small changes trying to high price, even you give a 20 k bill.

Recommend Okay boutique Hotel. More friendly, khmer style decoration, but not enough place to parking cars. 4000 to tuktuk to bars riverside, Potoon. Breakfast there is ok. Nice sky bar and pool.

Most time I tip 500 or 1000 to service staff, as girls, it depends.

Tinder is a spp for booking 25-35 girls, most half or semi SW. And pics are always fake somewhat. Mostly 100 usd expected. I am a chinese guy in 50's.

Girl bar, 10-15 bar fine, 50-100. Some 18-19 girls not BJ. And most do not require condom if you do not ask to use.

Q: does anyone here has some ideas to find a regular local girls, long term, travel together, english spesking. ?

[QUOTE=Fantasys;2904949]
Q: does anyone here has some ideas to find a regular local girls, long term, travel together, english spesking?[/QUOTE]First, kudos to Fantasys for a valid / complete post answering another board members questions.

If I were looking for a "regular" Khmer girl who speaks English, I'd think that the best hunting grounds would be in stores and restaurants that cater to tourists. Hit on the sales personnel and waitresses.

Depending on one's age and maybe other criteria, find out where the uni girls hang out. Maybe in a Starbuck's or Brown's or Amazon coffee shops. As most know, "regular" Khmer girls need to be somewhat courted, so I expect patience and persistence should be expected.

Sam Sanuk.

[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2905592]First, kudos to Fantasys for a valid / complete post answering another board members questions.

If I were looking for a "regular" Khmer girl who speaks English, I'd think that the best hunting grounds would be in stores and restaurants that cater to tourists. Hit on the sales personnel and waitresses.

Depending on one's age and maybe other criteria, find out where the uni girls hang out. Maybe in a Starbuck's or Brown's or Amazon coffee shops. As most know, "regular" Khmer girls need to be somewhat courted, so I expect patience and persistence should be expected.

Sam Sanuk.[/QUOTE]Why anyone would ever want to chase a "regular" Khmer girl is beyond me. WODR, you have to be a total loser in your own country to come seek a GF here.

[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2905592]First, kudos to Fantasys for a valid / complete post answering another board members questions.

If I were looking for a "regular" Khmer girl who speaks English, I'd think that the best hunting grounds would be in stores and restaurants that cater to tourists. Hit on the sales personnel and waitresses.

Depending on one's age and maybe other criteria, find out where the uni girls hang out. Maybe in a Starbuck's or Brown's or Amazon coffee shops. As most know, "regular" Khmer girls need to be somewhat courted, so I expect patience and persistence should be expected.

Sam Sanuk.[/QUOTE]Thanks, Bro. Have been Coffee shops, nothing happened, maybe wrong location.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2903674]The real questions are do you presently work in a city where hobbying is better than PP or do you think you will be offered a job in a better city during those 5 weeks? If the answers are no it's a no brainer imo.

All the answers about girls and pricing can easily be found in this forum. I could sit here and regurgitate the info but are you really going to base your decision on one or two stranger's opinions instead of doing your own legwork?[/QUOTE]So true! Atta boy, Banana Boy. Also: don't make age a fetish. I consider myself picky, but a 25 yo stunner can be more memorable that 18 yo street meat. And Cambo has variety, just look for it.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2905638]Why anyone would ever want to chase a "regular" Khmer girl is beyond me. WODR, you have to be a total loser in your own country to come seek a GF here.[/QUOTE]I think you came to your conclusion without considering the original poster would be in country for several weeks with a lot of free time. Indeed, he would not be visiting Cambodia to seek a GF here. As stated, his purpose would be for work, NOT for the purpose of seeking a GF. Aside from that, I have known (and currently know) quite a number of "regular" Khmer girls who speak good to very good English. They are a lot of fun and would be good companions--at least for a few weeks. LOL.

SS.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2905638]Why anyone would ever want to chase a "regular" Khmer girl is beyond me. WODR, you have to be a total loser in your own country to come seek a GF here.[/QUOTE]The original poster clearly indicated that the purpose of being in Cambodia for several weeks was for work with a lot of free time. The purpose NOT being there to "seek a GF". I have known and do know a number of "regular" Khmer girls who speak good to very good English; they are a lot of fun and have helped me from time to time negotiate everything from prices to travel plans. And they are not gold-diggers.

Sam Sanuk.

[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2906147]The original poster clearly indicated that the purpose of being in Cambodia for several weeks was for work with a lot of free time. The purpose NOT being there to "seek a GF". I have known and do know a number of "regular" Khmer girls who speak good to very good English; they are a lot of fun and have helped me from time to time negotiate everything from prices to travel plans. And they are not gold-diggers.

Sam Sanuk.[/QUOTE]You do know what I am searching. It is boring, fucking a girl who come and leave after fucking. I just need more communicate.

Have to say that I am not a winner in seeking a GF in my own country. I like a girl submissive, and I like to have a sugar baby. Haha, but not a GF.

I like long term GFE, not a long term fuck. And it is nice to be with a girl who speak good english in phnom penh, yeah most time I stay weeks in Cambodia.

Hi Chaps long time lurker first time poster.

I've been in Cambodia coming on 15 years now. 10 years ago was pretty good, around what Phnom all the coconut girls. Yes many were quite sore with a high risk of nicking stuff from you at any opportunity. But I like them a bit rough anyway.

For some time now they have been working hard to transform the city into a modern city with skyscrapers, western businesses like Starbucks and Dominos. They'd started rounding up all the street girls a while before, but when the SEA games happened and foreign diplomatic types were in town they had 30 cops on what Phnom all day and night. The girls up there are slowly drifting back but nothing like it used to be, at least not during the day or early evening. There was always a pretty broad selection of girls up there, now there will be 2 or 3 knocking around making it a sellers market and again not like it used to be.

Same with Sorya Mall. Since they knocked all that down, Sorya has become skid row with ice heads scattered along the pavements and doorways. The same usual super-ropey girls around home foods every day, with maybe 5 teeth between them.

I'm not so into bars, I don't really drink, and girls savvy enough to hold down a job in a bar is a girl savvy enough to take you for every penny she can get then forget about you 5 minutes later. Coconut girls were never like that, I have what Phnom girls I've been seeing on and off for 10 years, I've never had that kind of relationship with a bar girl. Though to be fair I did not go with that many girls from that many bars. I have a few interesting kinks. Coconut girls were always cool with that and game to try many things. Bar girls going to get paid regardless. Salary, plus lady drinks. They don't need to mess around with anything unusual they just want to get your $ and leave. That doesn't work so well for me.

I spoke to the guy that used to own Cerce bar. Now called Yam Yam or something. He said he sold up because the bar scene here is fading. Not enough customers to go round. General inflation pushing the price of girls up and up, and he said most his mongers have gone back to Pattaya. I can concur, we have a friend visiting right now, have hit maybe 6 bars the past week or so, and I think we were the only guys in the bar in every bar we went in. Even at 9 pm on a Friday night.

I love Khmer culture generally I think they are very sweet people. I would say, that a GOOD fck is not easily come by in this town, and I had a few fcks. Sex is not something Khmer are interested in generally, they don't understand the complexity or variety of it, other than videos they've seen on porn hub. 9 times out of 10 you'll get the famous 'starfish' - girl laying back motionless with arms and legs spread like she's hating every minute of it. I found Thai girls to be a lot more accommodating. And a few Viet girls I met over here, though those ladies steal at an Olympic level. Cute though.

They legalized ganja in Thailand not long ago. The ganj here is ok, the HG is quite expensive when I hear you can get decent HG in Thailand for a dollar a g. Everything here is maybe 3 or 4 times more expensive than it was when we came here and I don't know if that will continue to rise. And the cleaning up of the girls. Reasons to come here were 1. Cheap, 2. Girls, 3. Ganj. Take those away, I am wondering why anyone would ever come here.

To be fair I did not go up what Phnom late like after 10 pm or midnight, I heard it's busier then. There'll be girls moving among the crowds on Riverside during the evening busy time 6 to 8 ish. When the crowds leave the girls seem to leave, I guess with no crowds they are easy to spot and bust.

Does anyone know where all the street girls are going now? Any good leads there?

Realistically, should I be thinking about maybe moving somewhere else, like Pattaya (again)? Or to a different city?

Or if you have any useful mongering advice for this city, it'd be greatly appreciated.

Sorry for any waffle and many thanks for your help.