Bangkok Reports

Hit the Eden Club this week around 7.30pm.

Reasonable selection of girls -- only one or two real "lookers" but a happy giggly bunch of ladies.

Ended up picking a girl from the non-Anal side of the line and letting her pick a friend. Don't know names but both were maybe 4'9" -- one was 27 and the other was 20.

Pricing remains 1800 per lady (3600 total) for 90 mins in the room.

The facilities appear to have been upgraded / cleaned-up a bit since my last visit in May 2008. Rooms appeared nicer, bathroom facilities better. Maybe I'm mis-remembering, but it certainly seemed upgraded.

In the room, girls were incredibly playful. Washed me and proceeded to give me an amazing BBBJ with prostate massage. This proceeded onto prodding with various fingers and implements :) After some fucking, ended up blowing my load in one girls mouth before some recovery time. Round 2 was pretty much the same -- but clearly took me longer and boy did the girls work for it without complaining. I was really impressed. And drained!

Some hugging downstairs at the bar before I left. Nice.

Great time, would go back for sure. Remains one of my favorite places in BKK.

Location on a Soi across from the Nana BTS is just too convenient. Look for the Subway/Coffee World on the corner @ Sukhumvit, that's the street.

Sukhumvit Soi 7/1
(between Soi 7 and Soi 9, near Nana Skytrain Station, Exit 1)
adjacent to the World Inn Hotel

[QUOTE=Kid Icarus]Btw, I asked the mamasan (or who she is) behind the counter if the girls is tested for STD, yes, every 2 months she replied. Anyone knows if there's a law that WG has to be checked up or this is just the own house rules they put up? Not that you really know that this is followed up or the girls bring back real papers..[/QUOTE]

Look, you should stop worrying. There is no law.
If you want to be 100% safe, staying home and jerking off is a good idea.

Come on! live a little! There's nothing wrong in taking risks sometimes no?

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Look, you should stop worrying. There is no law.
If you want to be 100% safe, staying home and jerking off is a good idea.

Come on! live a little! There's nothing wrong in taking risks sometimes no?[/QUOTE]

Hell I take risks all the time and there are times of equipment damage even when not taking risks.

Even if no law I'd rather frequent a place that requires better testing for in house rules then places that do not have as stringent requirements.

Some clinic's are just rubber stamp clinic's and some establishments actually require ladies to go to certain places to ensure they do not get a rubber stamped result.

[quote=nicfrenchy]
come on! live a little! there's nothing wrong in taking risks sometimes no?[/quote]

ill do ill do. i take risks all the time, and sometimes stupid ones. i would without a hesitate even go up to space with a space shuttle were the odds to die is like 1 in 80. i had a gun pointed at me once (but without fire) and all the times i end up in strange situations that most folks would say is abnormal. a friend told me that's because you are a dynamic person and stuff happens around you all the time.

but, and that's a big but. i want a family in the future that's for sure. i reduce that possibilities a lot with a hiv infection. i'm not afraid to die because of the infection, i'm afraid to loose many possibilities that comes with an infection.

but in another hand, if i want to have a great bj like i had yesterday i must put this aside and enjoy and accept if i get infected. if i don't accept it, i must put on a condom. i can still enjoy a bj with condom if she's good. but oh, that bj yesterday felt good..

best would be if they find out a 2 sec check up with a tool or something. because, it disturbs me that some men walking around with hiv (and know about that) and have unprotected sex. girls should have the opportunity to be safe too. change job and change habit then someone now thinks. yeah, maybe..

[quote=tansak ktv]
even if no law i'd rather frequent a place that requires better testing for in house rules then places that do not have as stringent requirements.

some clinic's are just rubber stamp clinic's and some establishments actually require ladies to go to certain places to ensure they do not get a rubber stamped result.[/quote]

what's your impression of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and sol? at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] they go (if they do) to sukhumvit (or was it bangkok hospital)?

[quote=kid icarus]but in another hand, if i want to have a great bj like i had yesterday i must put this aside and enjoy and accept if i get infected. if i don't accept it, i must put on a condom. i can still enjoy a bj with condom if she's good. but oh, that bj yesterday felt good..[/quote]

you'd have to be really unlucky to get hiv via a bbbj... and i'm not even sure it's possible.

[quote]it disturbs me that some men walking around with hiv (and know about that) and have unprotected sex. girls should have the opportunity to be safe too. change job and change habit then someone now thinks. yeah, maybe..[/quote]

don't worry, it's not always the guys, many girls know they have hiv and still fuck guys bareback... most of them are freelancers/streetwalkers though.

[quote]what's your impression of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and sol? at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] they go (if they do) to sukhumvit (or was it bangkok hospital)?[/quote]
i know sol girls have to go to bnh

[quote=kid icarus]what's your impression of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and sol? at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] they go (if they do) to sukhumvit (or was it bangkok hospital)?[/quote]

my impression? every time i go to a bj bar i end up nailing them fs (fully covered of course) or using two or three girls to get off.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Look, you should stop worrying. There is no law.

If you want to be 100% safe, staying home and jerking off is a good idea.

Come on! Live a little! There's nothing wrong in taking risks sometimes no?[/QUOTE]So she gets tested yesterday and is clean. Today she goes with a guy and gets infected. Meaning within the next few weeks she will be at high infection/transmission and pass everything along before the next few months test reveals that she has something. The theory that the bars are "safe" because the girls get tested I think is a bit flawed.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]You'd have to be really unlucky to get HIV via a BBBJ... and I'm not even sure it's possible. [/QUOTE]I agree with you that a guy would have to be unlucky to get HIV from a BBBJ, however it is possible if 1. The girl has HIV and 2. Open sores (blood in the mouth). One study I read some time ago found that transmission from oral sex was around 7% if the two criteria above were met.

This is a direct quote from the CDC:

[quote]Yes, it is possible for either partner to become infected with HIV through performing or receiving oral sex. There have been a few cases of HIV transmission from performing oral sex on a person infected with HIV. While no one knows exactly what the degree of risk is, evidence suggests that the risk is less than that of unprotected anal or vaginal sex.

If the person performing oral sex has HIV, blood from their mouth may enter the body of the person receiving oral sex through

The lining of the urethra (the opening at the tip of the penis);

The lining of the vagina or cervix;

The lining of the anus; or

Directly into the body through small cuts or open sores.

If the person receiving oral sex has HIV, their blood, semen (cum), pre-seminal fluid (pre-cum), or vaginal fluid may contain the virus. Cells lining the mouth of the person performing oral sex may allow HIV to enter their body.

The risk of HIV transmission increases

If the person performing oral sex has cuts or sores around or in their mouth or throat;

If the person receiving oral sex ejaculates in the mouth of the person performing oral sex; or

If the person receiving oral sex has another sexually transmitted disease (STD).[/quote]So be careful out there.

[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S SUGGESTION[/u]:[/b] [blue]This is interesting, but you might consider re-posting it under the [u]Safe Sex[/u] topic in the Special Interests section of the Forum where it will benefit the Forum Members who are specifically looking for this type of information. [i]Thanks![/i][/blue][/size]

Start with the probability of 7% risk of oral transmission if the girl has HIV and blood in the mouth.

Then ask what is the probability a girl from a high end BKK sauna for example has HIV? 1%?. 1%?. 001%? I don't know. For the sake of the calculation let's say it's 1% (which I think is high).

Then ask what is the probability that this HIV infected girl has open wounds in her mouth? 1%?. 1%?. 01%? Let's assume it is. 1% (which again I think is a high number).

Based on these assumptions, the risk of oral transmission would B. 0000007 or (rounded off) 1 hundred thousand of a percent. Which is statistically significant but rare. By comparison the chance of winning the lottery is roughly 1 in 14 million or 0. 00000007143.

And of course my calculations are largely based on pure assumption. The risk may be less.

My point is that there is a risk and it is significantly greater than zero. Be careful out there.

[QUOTE=Kid Icarus]
Btw, I asked the mamasan (or who she is) behind the counter if the girls is tested for STD, yes, every 2 months she replied. Anyone knows if there's a law that WG has to be checked up or this is just the own house rules they put up? Not that you really know that this is followed up or the girls bring back real papers..
[/QUOTE]
This gives everyone a VERY false sense of security. In 2 months some of those girls have sex with well over 100 guys from all over the world, with many different standards of cleanliness, well-being, and sexual history.

Going bareback here is certainly like playing Russian Roulette.

Just my 2 cents.

[QUOTE=David 2]This gives everyone a VERY false sense of security.[/QUOTE]

There is NO security guys, but I WOULD STILL RATHER go to a place where girls test at real hospitals then a rubber stamp place or get no testing. Or on the same token girls can produce their testing results for me (I carry copies of my physicals which I get every month on my flash drive BTW).

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman]Hit the Eden Club this week around 7. 30pm.

Reasonable selection of girls. Only one or two real "lookers" but a happy giggly bunch of ladies.

Ended up picking a girl from the non-Anal side of the line and letting her pick a friend. Don't know names but both were maybe 4'9". One was 27 and the other was 20.

Pricing remains 1800 per lady (3600 total) for 90 mins in the room.

The facilities appear to have been upgraded / cleaned-up a bit since my last visit in May 2008. Rooms appeared nicer, bathroom facilities better. Maybe I'm mis-remembering, but it certainly seemed upgraded.

In the room, girls were incredibly playful. Washed me and proceeded to give me an amazing BBBJ with prostate massage. This proceeded onto prodding with various fingers and implements. After some fucking, ended up blowing my load in one girls mouth before some recovery time. Round 2 was pretty much the same. But clearly took me longer and boy did the girls work for it without complaining. I was really impressed. And drained!

Some hugging downstairs at the bar before I left. Nice.

Great time, would go back for sure. Remains one of my favorite places in BKK.

Location on a Soi across from the Nana BTS is just too convenient. Look for the Subway/Coffee World on the corner at Sukhumvit, that's the street.

Sukhumvit Soi 7/1

(between Soi 7 and Soi 9, near Nana Skytrain Station, Exit 1)

Adjacent to the World Inn Hotel[/QUOTE]It really is one of the most amenable places in the city and they frequently upgrade the staff.

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman]Hit the Eden Club this week around 7. 30pm.

Reasonable selection of girls. Only one or two real "lookers" but a happy giggly bunch of ladies.

Ended up picking a girl from the non-Anal side of the line and letting her pick a friend. Don't know names but both were maybe 4'9". One was 27 and the other was 20.

Pricing remains 1800 per lady (3600 total) for 90 mins in the room.

The facilities appear to have been upgraded / cleaned-up a bit since my last visit in May 2008. Rooms appeared nicer, bathroom facilities better. Maybe I'm mis-remembering, but it certainly seemed upgraded.

In the room, girls were incredibly playful. Washed me and proceeded to give me an amazing BBBJ with prostate massage. This proceeded onto prodding with various fingers and implements. After some fucking, ended up blowing my load in one girls mouth before some recovery time. Round 2 was pretty much the same. But clearly took me longer and boy did the girls work for it without complaining. I was really impressed. And drained!

Some hugging downstairs at the bar before I left. Nice.

Great time, would go back for sure. Remains one of my favorite places in BKK.

Location on a Soi across from the Nana BTS is just too convenient. Look for the Subway/Coffee World on the corner at Sukhumvit, that's the street.

Sukhumvit Soi 7/1

(between Soi 7 and Soi 9, near Nana Skytrain Station, Exit 1)

Adjacent to the World Inn Hotel[/QUOTE]I agree, it is one of the most amenable places in the city with frequently upgraded staff, but usually get there afternoons, it gets busy in the evenings.

Currently which go-go bar has the best action in the capital? I haven; t been there since last June and really need an update for a friend visiting the city after Christmas.

[QUOTE=Oldian]So she gets tested yesterday and is clean. Today she goes with a guy and gets infected. Meaning within the next few weeks she will be at high infection/transmission and pass everything along before the next few months test reveals that she has something. The theory that the bars are "safe" because the girls get tested I think is a bit flawed.[/QUOTE]

Yes, you are correct, but I still maintain that Bars/Massage places are Saf[b]er[/b] than the freelancers/Streetwalkers.

And it's not really the customers you should be worries about... it's the thai Boyfriends who bareback everything that moves.
One only needs to open camfrog's Asia/thailand rooms to see that all the sex happens with no protection.
Certain ladies fuck Everyday on Cam and with Different guys... again, no protection and almost all the time, guys come inside their pussies.

Trust me, BB in thailand is pure Suicide, even with non P4P girls.

If you want to be safe, barfine a girl for a week, you both go adn get tested, and then you can have a full week of fun.