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[QUOTE=Arlin;2949373]The bar inside naga called dalin dalin filled with Chinese patrons. Went once and didn't bother. Had a few nice girls inside.[/QUOTE]Why didn't you bother at Darlin Darlin? Girls only paid attention to Chinese guys? You were being rejected from those you asked? Too expensive?
DD has reputation as a place for girls to hopefully catch someone who won it big at the casino.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2949799]Why didn't you bother at Darlin Darlin? Girls only paid attention to Chinese guys? You were being rejected from those you asked? Too expensive?
DD has reputation as a place for girls to hopefully catch someone who won it big at the casino.[/QUOTE]Great points BB.
I stay in an Air BnB walking distance to Naga, and although I enjoy the interactions in the Riverside bars, I have frequently decided on a whim to drop in to' Darlin Darlin' to check out the line up and 9/10 times I have brought someone home. Some of the girls see themselves as prima donas and will ask top price but I have always had no problems getting someone for anywhere between 50 - 100 usd for ST action.
Before anyone starts jumping up and down, think about it. No BF. No string of expensive drinks for mamasans etc. No tutktuks to a hotel. Just point and click. To my mind, $100 plus $5-10 for a couple of drinks is good value for me. I prefer ST too. I am always working when in PNH so I need a good sleep and don't need any dramas or distractions in the morning.
The biggest negative of Naga in general and DD in particular is the cigarette smoke. It is sometimes like a London fog in there.
Good folks of this forum could you please advice on where to find older women in PP. Most places seem to be having only young girls. While young ones are a refreshing change for me, my go to remains MILF'S in the 35-40 years range.
Any pointers to specific establishments would be greatly helpful.
TIA.
I'll be in PP for the 1st time in Dec, and I've read that a typical LT time is 2-3 hours. Does this time include as many shots as you can fit into the agreed time slot?
I'll be in PP soon and I've learned fron the forum that a typical ST session is 2-3 hours. Does that include as many shots as I can fit in the agreed time slot? Many thanks for your help!!
[QUOTE=Iskederxxx;2951828]I'll be in PP soon and I've learned fron the forum that a typical ST session is 2-3 hours. Does that include as many shots as I can fit in the agreed time slot? Many thanks for your help!![/QUOTE]Best, these days, to discuss that with the service provider before a deal is made.
Sam.
[QUOTE=Mahku;2944690]Any news on the guest friendliness of the Hyatt Regency? I did a search here and didn't find anything.[/QUOTE]To answer my own question, it's been completely girl friendly so far. That includes going in through the central, royal villa entrance, or the side entrances. Nobody has made any move to check ID or otherwise impede progress to the elevators.
[QUOTE=Iskederxxx;2951828]I'll be in PP soon and I've learned fron the forum that a typical ST session is 2-3 hours. Does that include as many shots as I can fit in the agreed time slot? Many thanks for your help!![/QUOTE]You're english comprehension is off.
A TYPICAL ST sessiom is the same as anywhere else. One shot, "you come I go". Time isn't strictly defined but they arnt interested in wasting more than necessary with you. In more rural areas a ST is going to be more like 30 minutes. Or 20 minutes.
You can negotiate price for a longer session with multiple shots of course, up front, and people do. But that's not the default option.
Phnom Penh thoughts and rambling.
After 4 nights in the rivedside 130-136 area, some honest observations.
As many have said, plenty of slim young girls to choose from.
Also plenty of older fatties too.
Some attractive ones.
Plenty of ugly ones.
Some call out to you.
Some glued to phones.
Some happy to just watch you walk by. Maybe I'm not east asian enough for those ones.
Its simple. Theres more girls than punters every day of the week it seems. That of course means the less attractive older woman harassing you for drinks and making sad faces.
ID guess the average age at 27, and the median at 24.
Modus Operandi- same as anywhere else in the world. Pretend they have been waiting all night for you to show up, and they just fell in love with you, you hansom devil, welcome you into their bar and try to gently empty your wallet.
I've had a great time overall, and its easy to reel off a highlights package that gives a false impression, but its not disneyland and theres a few negatives.
Theres a variety of bars, but a majority are cookie cutter clones. An led lit Bar with stools, some couches / booths, drinks $2 -2. 5, lady drinks $4 - 5. Barfines $15-20. Deafning music, but if not many customer they may back it off a notch on request so you don't have to yell.
Biggest difference in bars come with owners / mamas attitude. Some run a tight ship, match you up with girl (s) of your taste, make sure you are happy, translate / negotiate if desired and stay close enough to answer any questions happily. They mostly tilt towards the east asian market, and attract the younger / better looking girls. I guess you could call it the more premium end if such a word is appropriate. Certainly mama adds value to your experience.
Some mamas are a bit crazy,* get in your face, request lady drinks, and are downright annoying and in one case decided to put a non existant drink on my tab as well. At check time I challenged it, it got zeroed off and the girl sitting with me was very apologetic. Theres nothong to gain by buying mama a drink I've found, so consider mama asking for a drink a red flag. Probably not worth naming the bar since girls / staff move between bars a lot it seems.
Finally, some mamas are disinterested and leave you right alone. In one case thay was perfect because 2 very lovely hostesses piled right on, in a dark corner. One drink each, and it was close encounter time. Generously they would lift my glass for me to drink since both my hands were busy. One 19 yo MILF with a very cute face (like those apsara dancer sterotype looks) and nice enough figure, and a neat slim 21 yo with a cute ass and a weird face who didn't object to my hand going straight into her underwear on arrival. After 3 drinks each and a good 45 minutes of fun I tipped the MILF and took the slim one ST for $50. Next night I popped in and got even better mileage out of both drinks wise. MILF wasnt wearing panties tonight and was grinding on me hard before drinks were even considered. Then 30 minutes later she got her period in the middle of it. Eh. Bad luck.
Girls:
Not many I would consider objectively pretty working riverside. Lots look good from 10 meters away, and theres many a great figure, but not so cute close up. Speaking of figure, I expected most to be short and stout, but there is a surprising number of suprisingly tall, slender young ladys with long legs, flat tummies and creamy smooth skin. Many different face shapes, unfortunately half or more quite plain or unattractive to me anyway, and too much plastered on makeup doesn't fix it all at. Some look quite manly, some with quite deep voices. Some with a bit more body hair than I like. Some I would have defo picked as ladyboys. But I checked and they were born with lady bits and bad luck in the looks dept.
Slim, Young, AND Attractive actually reduces the talent pool down to less than 5% IMHO. Half of those will be mercenaries.
Bars. Prime real estate is 136 - 130 centred on 5th. The quality seems to slip towards the ends of those streets and around 118 and 110, but the sleeziness seems to rise a bit too.
Day 1: tried to visit a number of bars and get a feel for the place. Took a 19 yo with super slim body but face 4/10. $50ST. Insisted on condom, and provided herself. Shaved puss. Showered together in ST hotel, no BJ, loose pussy, mediocre fuck. WNR.
Day 2: 21 yo slim girl mentioned earlier with slightly alien but pleasant enough looking features, great figure with long legs, slim waist with smooth tummy and be cups. Much more fun. $50ST again. Short, half hearted BJ only, no condom mentioned. Would repeat if bored.
Day 3: 18 yo, tall, slim, long legs, again 5/10 in looks. She was my 2nd choice, but her better looking colleague claimed period. I think BS, she just was politely refusing me. $80ST from this place. Don't think she had been in a hotel before, seemed fascinated by everything, scared of the shower, and took a tiktok of herself in the bathroom mirror before leaving. Commented she pays $80 a month for her room. Insisted on condom. Complained about everything, loudly, was very tight, didn't like the lube. Between that and me being tired and a bit drunk couldn't finish the job. Novel experience but WNR.
Day 4: less jetlag now, and better orientation. Headed out after a nice dinner, and had some good fun with a very cute 19 yo and her chubbier18 yo friend on the couches at a 118st bar. Agreed to take both ST for $50 each. Lots of giggles. Again condom required, and again, I don't think either had been in a hotel before. But quite fun regardless. Both a bit shy, but no complaining and positioned as directed. Only banging one while fingering the other, no girl on girl action. Would repeat. Well, intend to visit again anyway.
Not all girls will go with you. The younger ones don't seem desperate for money at all, but the oldies areans know their shelf life is running out and are keener. Girls seem to be very loosely tied to the bars, shifting bar easily, and going home early if they choose. Lineup changes daily at some. A lot of places try to start at $100ST and then 'discount' to 80. In the case of the pair they stood firm on 80 for one or 50 for both. It seems that the good looking young ones will (or their mama will) stand firm at $80 even if you walk away. The slightly flawed gems, or mid 20's will take $50 ok. I was able to to find exactly what I wanted but it would be fair to say I had to sift through a few dozen girls to find them.
Day 5 to come. Now I have the additional problem of navigating without girl A seeing me with girl be. Although I'm not convinced they get mad about it it may save some face.
[QUOTE=NuttinSerious;2952563]Phnom Penh thoughts and rambling.
After 4 nights in the rivedside 130-136 area, some honest observations.
.[/QUOTE]As it has been for the last decade or so, providers in Southeast Asia have no concept of supply and demand; no appreciation of "something is better than nothing"; or the likelihood of getting barfined as the night wears on gets smaller and smaller. $100ST should generate a lot of falling-down belly laughs. I've never been insulted with such a quote, but came close once in BKK. My response was "5000 baht? For a week?
Thanks, again, for taking the time to relate you experiences.
SS.
Thinking today, maybe I was a bit harsh with my 5% assessment. A couple of drinks and there is a lot of quite doable girls here. Anyway.
Neils mini mart on 136 is well stocked with pills, potions, lubricants and condoms including 003,002 & 001 varieties. $8 for brand name cialis I see. Also does coffee and usual minimart stuff.
Ostex does 24 HR food, which is welcome when you need a hot snack at 4 am.
Theres a massage place on 130 near the riverside end that can do a decent legit massage. Called something spa. They may do more.
I can't imagine any place here that doesn't. But it was the proper massage I was after without getting robbed.
For research purposes I asked about how long ST would be. An hour is normal expectation. I bartered with a syt for a 3 hour /2 pops session at $100 - one of the 'will not go ST less than $80' variety of cute 19 yo. After the first shot she showered, dressed and unsuprisingly enquired if she could leave. I reminded her of our deal and she didn't argue. After round 2 I let her go a few minutes early.
My take is that condom use demands in the 20 and younger bracket is high. In the mid 20's and older its not.
[QUOTE=NuttinSerious;2952563]Phnom Penh thoughts and rambling.
After 4 nights in the rivedside 130-136 area, some honest observations.
As many have said, plenty of slim young girls to choose from.
Also plenty of older fatties too.
Some attractive ones.
Plenty of ugly ones.
Some call out to you.
Some glued to phones.
Some happy to just watch you walk by. Maybe I'm not east asian enough for those ones.
Its simple. Theres more girls than punters every day of the week it seems. That of course means the less attractive older woman harassing you for drinks and making sad faces.
ID guess the average age at 27, and the median at 24.
Modus Operandi- same as anywhere else in the world. Pretend they have been waiting all night for you to show up, and they just fell in love with you, you hansom devil, welcome you into their bar and try to gently empty your wallet.
I've had a great time overall, and its easy to reel off a highlights package that gives a false impression, but its not disneyland and theres a few negatives.
Theres a variety of bars, but a majority are cookie cutter clones. An led lit Bar with stools, some couches / booths, drinks $2 -2. 5, lady drinks $4 - 5. Barfines $15-20. Deafning music, but if not many customer they may back it off a notch on request so you don't have to yell.
Biggest difference in bars come with owners / mamas attitude. Some run a tight ship, match you up with girl (s) of your taste, make sure you are happy, translate / negotiate if desired and stay close enough to answer any questions happily. They mostly tilt towards the east asian market, and attract the younger / better looking girls. I guess you could call it the more premium end if such a word is appropriate. Certainly mama adds value to your experience.
Some mamas are a bit crazy,* get in your face, request lady drinks, and are downright annoying and in one case decided to put a non existant drink on my tab as well. At check time I challenged it, it got zeroed off and the girl sitting with me was very apologetic. Theres nothong to gain by buying mama a drink I've found, so consider mama asking for a drink a red flag. Probably not worth naming the bar since girls / staff move between bars a lot it seems.
Finally, some mamas are disinterested and leave you right alone. In one case thay was perfect because 2 very lovely hostesses piled right on, in a dark corner. One drink each, and it was close encounter time. Generously they would lift my glass for me to drink since both my hands were busy. One 19 yo MILF with a very cute face (like those apsara dancer sterotype looks) and nice enough figure, and a neat slim 21 yo with a cute ass and a weird face who didn't object to my hand going straight into her underwear on arrival. After 3 drinks each and a good 45 minutes of fun I tipped the MILF and took the slim one ST for $50. Next night I popped in and got even better mileage out of both drinks wise. MILF wasnt wearing panties tonight and was grinding on me hard before drinks were even considered. Then 30 minutes later she got her period in the middle of it. Eh. Bad luck.
Girls:
Not many I would consider objectively pretty working riverside. Lots look good from 10 meters away, and theres many a great figure, but not so cute close up. Speaking of figure, I expected most to be short and stout, but there is a surprising number of suprisingly tall, slender young ladys with long legs, flat tummies and creamy smooth skin. Many different face shapes, unfortunately half or more quite plain or unattractive to me anyway, and too much plastered on makeup doesn't fix it all at. Some look quite manly, some with quite deep voices. Some with a bit more body hair than I like. Some I would have defo picked as ladyboys. But I checked and they were born with lady bits and bad luck in the looks dept.
Slim, Young, AND Attractive actually reduces the talent pool down to less than 5% IMHO. Half of those will be mercenaries.
Bars. Prime real estate is 136 - 130 centred on 5th. The quality seems to slip towards the ends of those streets and around 118 and 110, but the sleeziness seems to rise a bit too.
Day 1: tried to visit a number of bars and get a feel for the place. Took a 19 yo with super slim body but face 4/10. $50ST. Insisted on condom, and provided herself. Shaved puss. Showered together in ST hotel, no BJ, loose pussy, mediocre fuck. WNR.
Day 2: 21 yo slim girl mentioned earlier with slightly alien but pleasant enough looking features, great figure with long legs, slim waist with smooth tummy and be cups. Much more fun. $50ST again. Short, half hearted BJ only, no condom mentioned. Would repeat if bored.
Day 3: 18 yo, tall, slim, long legs, again 5/10 in looks. She was my 2nd choice, but her better looking colleague claimed period. I think BS, she just was politely refusing me. $80ST from this place. Don't think she had been in a hotel before, seemed fascinated by everything, scared of the shower, and took a tiktok of herself in the bathroom mirror before leaving. Commented she pays $80 a month for her room. Insisted on condom. Complained about everything, loudly, was very tight, didn't like the lube. Between that and me being tired and a bit drunk couldn't finish the job. Novel experience but WNR.
Day 4: less jetlag now, and better orientation. Headed out after a nice dinner, and had some good fun with a very cute 19 yo and her chubbier18 yo friend on the couches at a 118st bar. Agreed to take both ST for $50 each. Lots of giggles. Again condom required, and again, I don't think either had been in a hotel before. But quite fun regardless. Both a bit shy, but no complaining and positioned as directed. Only banging one while fingering the other, no girl on girl action. Would repeat. Well, intend to visit again anyway.
Not all girls will go with you. The younger ones don't seem desperate for money at all, but the oldies areans know their shelf life is running out and are keener. Girls seem to be very loosely tied to the bars, shifting bar easily, and going home early if they choose. Lineup changes daily at some. A lot of places try to start at $100ST and then 'discount' to 80. In the case of the pair they stood firm on 80 for one or 50 for both. It seems that the good looking young ones will (or their mama will) stand firm at $80 even if you walk away. The slightly flawed gems, or mid 20's will take $50 ok. I was able to to find exactly what I wanted but it would be fair to say I had to sift through a few dozen girls to find them.
Day 5 to come. Now I have the additional problem of navigating without girl A seeing me with girl be. Although I'm not convinced they get mad about it it may save some face.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your great report. I'll be there in a month.
You are so right. Even back almost 30 years ago riding up the highway in northern VN with a buddy we would stop at small places along the way and see what kind of talent was there. Bear in mind then the going rate was around 5 bucks (I once paid around 2, she just wanted to fuck a foreigner). Lots of success but we did encounter places with no business that would quote 2-3 times that (and the locals were probably paying less!) and they would not budge. Sitting around all day with no customers is preferable to making some coin. Encountered similar all over SEA and the present is no exception.
Don't get me started on price inflation. 30 years ago a can of beer in Cambodia was a dollar. Today you can still get a can of beer for a dollar. Try getting that 3-5 dollar ST now!
Street 136 Xanadu Bar definitely caught padding the bill. Avoids.
To expand on yesterday's report. Xanadu Bar tried to charge me $106 for a tab that was actually about 50. I stayed in the bar an extra 30 minutes trying to get them to give me a correct bill. They wouldn't even show me the chits that I had supposedly ordered. They weren't budging. . Then I told them I was going to the bar next door and they could come and find me. But nobody from Xanadu came. I would pay a reasonable bill but not an outlandish scam. So I just walked. Be alert out there and it's probably better to just pay as you go each round.