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[QUOTE=NoBuglyFitches;2889742]Correction: Black Caviar actually starts at 6,000 (S).
Maria starts at 7,000 (L).[/QUOTE]I've hit some of the mid-range and lower soapies on my last trip and I felt like the service was pretty meh so I'm looking to give BC and Maria a shot. It seems like the looks were great at Black Caviar but do you think the service is any better; I. E. Is it GFE and enthusiastic or do the higher range gals just do the "passive" style that asian customers like?
Last time I was in Bangkok was 6 years ago. There was a street vendor near Thermae that had boxes of Sidegra for sale, helps my stamina when the condom is required. Is that guy still selling along Sukhumvit? Is Sidegra available over the counter in Bangkok pharmacies?
[QUOTE=FilthyBeaver;2889654]But isn't that the purpose of aub nuat to begun with? Come in all hot and sweaty. Pick an angel, get a bath and do your thing? If you've got someplace to be afterwards I can see wanting to be a little more careful.[/QUOTE]If it's a street-level massage shop with a small room and a shower, then sure. But it just didn't feel like Maria and Black Caviar wanted hot and sweaty guys. Especially if you decided to get a drink and take your time choosing a girl. Some Thai girls reject non-Asian clients even if we are well-dressed, perfumed and freshly showered. By the way, how many girls were in Poseidon when you went? Similar looks and prices as Black Caviar?
[QUOTE=NoBuglyFitches;2889626]I mentioned traffic for the benefit of first-time visitors who may be planning to stay near Nana and take a car from there to Black Caviar. For myself, I always took a car even if it was 10 minutes away. I just wouldn't feel good to walk to these nice establishments from the train and arrive all sweaty.[/QUOTE]Why would you walk from the train? Best option would be to take the train to the closest station and then take a taxi or grab from there. From Nana you would take the BTS to Asok and then take the MRT to the closest station.
Thought I would share a recent experience at the Nana Plaza complex. It was a Friday night and I went to several bars, one drink at Butterflies but left because of a pretty low talent pool. But maybe I was there too early. Next to Spanky's, the girls have a lot of fun but they're generally an older lot (30's) with tatoos, not my style. Next to Billboard, which is consistently my favorite. Bought a few rounds of drinks for a tall and slim Asian-blonde, conversation started well but then lagged, there wasn't a connection or sufficient mutual interest. Decided to go to Red Dragon next, was impressed by the number of ladies, mostly slim and in early- to mid-20's I would guess. One girl caught my eye, she also flirted while dancing so bought her a drink and then a few more while we talked and she danced a bit on my junk. I asked about short time and we agreed on 3 K for 3 hours, with I think 1 K for the bar fine. With drinks, about 5. 5 K plus maybe 1. 5 K on drinks at the other bars (7 K total).
Went to my hotel, we showered and then hit the bed. I don't remember her name or number, she was 22 years old though and slim but with practically no chest. Not a big deal, I knew they would be small but didn't realize how small until we were both naked. I kissed her sensitive nips but decided not to dine since I started to smell her odeur as I approached her shortly trimmed pubes. I asked her for a blow, but quickly I could tell she wasn't experienced and actually gagged within 10 seconds (not a deep throat either). That stopped that. I then stroked by schlong against her pussy lips, something I really like and have found many girls also seem to. It does result in the occasional accidental slip-in especially if not careful. After a few brief slips, I just stayed inside (with no hat on) and she didn't say anything. The feeling was intense, she was wet and tight and, despite having 6 or 7 drinks, I was ready to spill my seed. I asked her where she wanted me to finish, and she pointed to her stomach. I would have preferred elsewhere but respected her response.
We both cleaned up and took a short nap. I was ready for action again and she obliged. Almost a repeat performance ending with the same result. Having two sessions for short time is extremely unusual IME. What I found odd was while going to the hotel she asked if I had condoms and I said yes but only had three. I meant that as a joke but now I wonder if she thought I might expect 3 rounds in 3 hours? Anyway, when the time came, she didn't mention condoms nor did I. Being unprotected is like playing Russian Roulette, and afterwards I was thinking, what a fool I was. The thing is, I get myself into these situations and if a girl doesn't ask for a condom, it's easy to not take the initiative oneself. I suppose being horny and half drunk, with a hot young thing naked and in front of you, is my "excuse". I had a even more unusual experience a few days later in Pattaya where the girl actually asked me to drop my load inside. I'll add a report in that forum when I get the chance.
[QUOTE=BackInBangkok;2889874]Last time I was in Bangkok was 6 years ago. There was a street vendor near Thermae that had boxes of Sidegra for sale, helps my stamina when the condom is required. Is that guy still selling along Sukhumvit? Is Sidegra available over the counter in Bangkok pharmacies?[/QUOTE]I no longer buy medications from street vendors, I either bring from home or go to pharmacy. My last such purchase was from a tiny pharmacy on Soi 15 just a few steps from Sukhumvit on the left. No prescription was required.
Saw this girl on TF. Booked her for later in the evening. When she showed up in the lobby, the vibe was strange. She was very reluctant with everything. Tried to kiss her after shower to get into the mood, but she was not into it. I felt like she didn't want to be there in the first place. It's like I was forcing her to do something she didn't want to do. I called it off, gave her taxi money and let her go. And she was mad.
Yes I know you don't go to Thailand for black but as an alternative to break the Yellow fever.
Anyone had any sessions with the African ladies. They seem to hunt in packs which I don't like, I would imagine they don't get many proposals.
Any idea of prices and performance.
Appreciate.
NI.
[QUOTE=Gladiator69;2890022]Saw this girl on TF. Booked her for later in the evening. When she showed up in the lobby, the vibe was strange. She was very reluctant with everything. Tried to kiss her after shower to get into the mood, but she was not into it. I felt like she didn't want to be there in the first place. It's like I was forcing her to do something she didn't want to do. I called it off, gave her taxi money and let her go. And she was mad.[/QUOTE]That's too bad. If she looked like the pic you posted I would be bummed out too. She's pretty hot.
[QUOTE=Francesco24;2888196]Today I went to Ratchada 17 (Watana hotel) to meet this girl: [URL]https://fiwfans.io/sideline/406raembhlp0ggbxq[/URL].
I really would like to know how can every review on her page be so fake?
IF she is the same girl as in the picture, the amount of photoshop is really crazy. In real, she looks barely passable (5.5 or 6 at most).
Service was even worse of course: the.
No kiss with tongue, no touch / lick her boobs already made me lose any interest which was already low after seeing her real looks.
BJ was decent but very very short. No CIM allowed.
So I would like to ask again to the member more expert about FiwFan, how is it possible that every review is overly positive? Most are fake? Real negative review are censored? (I didn't try to review on FiwFan yet). Or they switch the girl with someone vaguely resembling the original one when she is off work?[/QUOTE]Thanks for the post. I am curious too. I read sinfulkorean's reviews of ff were very positive. I also contacted FF, and tsgsideline, and some others. I'm concerned this is a bait and switch type of operation. You get a line to the booker, not the girl on the line. The booker is an a $$hole to be polite. He doesn't clarify the details of the service but just focused on making the booking. Rude and impatient. I suspect I'the be setting ourselves for a bad / poor experience. Although I have not tried, are you guys seeing a lot of face not matching actual scenarios? The booker says if face doesn't match photo, you can cancel free of charge. However, my concern is when you are in another hotel, not sure what tricks they (girl / pimp) could play with you when you refuse if girl doesn't match photo. Have any of you cancelled?
[QUOTE=NovaThings;2888142]Section 3.
Day 4 -.
Went back to black caviar and they let me choose without membership again so I chose two CVs. One was the sana look alike and the other was a former racing car model. Amazing experience. They gave me my member number after that session. They upgraded me to a huge suite without any additional fees.
Rested and went back to red dragon. My second line girl got super pissed because I picked two sisters and not her and someone else. The younger is second from the left on 12/25, I would rate her as a L and her sister as a M. Amazing experience. Younger sister was third line girl, older sister was decent but selected both because it was a bucket item list I didn't know I wanted to check off.
Day 5 -.
Went to Snow White and saw candy in the morning. M face, s body. Out in 30 but paid for hour. Tipped and left.
Went to black caviar in the early afternoon and chose an L. Amazing experience. I thought she should be a XL. She would let me face force her and she was gagging while deepthroating me but wouldn't quit. She was snorting out my seed, since her mouth was full and she smiled through the whole appointment.
I was planning to go back to black caviar as my final destination that evening because there were 2 girls that I saw and wanted to see. But for the good of the team I went to PIMP instead. Pimp Mamasan was super cool but there was no CV, maybe a handful of PV, and L / xl out of 30 girls. The problem was I was probably going to fork out close to 45,000 for room, bar fine, automatic food cost and then add another 8-16,000 (a guess) if I could bring them back and some were not available to leave. I think PIMP would be a solid option as warm up to the actual thing but I wanted action and not teasing.
Messaged mamasan at black caviar who upgraded me again as I chose duo L (who I think was more of a PV) and her friend who was a PV (who I would have picked as a L). I then went with another L, L, and PV trio after my initial L and PV duo to close out my final day. I ended up paying about the same amount as above for PIMP but got the same size room / amenities while meeting 5 different girls. I would consider pimp maybe earlier in my vacation next time but it will likely be black caviar (get lines) and then everything else.
In conclusion. I really tried to be open but there was such a wide looks gap between soapies and gogo / black caviar and black caviar had even better service. I had black caviar girls forcing themselves on me, spitting on my cock, deep throating, rimming, forcing their partner to open wider, super flexible, submissive, etc. Coupled with the most beautiful girls. I did end up with some decent girls from red dragon but ultimately the girls from black caviar are the standard and that's the price I was willing to play. Also during slow hours. There were about 20 girls at black caviar but during peak hours there were at least 50 and 1/2 were always XL, PV or CV. Happy punting all![/QUOTE]Thanks, very informative. What do the levels means for BC? (eg, XL, L, PV, CV, etc).
[QUOTE=NewImage;2890079]Yes I know you don't go to Thailand for black but as an alternative to break the Yellow fever.
Anyone had any sessions with the African ladies. They seem to hunt in packs which I don't like, I would imagine they don't get many proposals.
Any idea of prices and performance.
Appreciate.
NI.[/QUOTE]I've talked to a few and smelled others as they walked past I wouldn't bang one but YMMV. They ask 3500 but drop down immediately. I may try a mouth when I get to BKK in a few weeks. That's probably 1000. If I can find one that looks and smells good, and wears her wig on straight.
Have just read (on another popular site that "sticks" in your memory) that the whole lady drink MO has changed. Appears that there is no guarantee of the girl actually staying with you and if you don't keep buying and buying its off to find another willing cash machine.
What's going on here? Is it that bad? Is it just in the big bars / clubs or is this across the board.
If I'm buying a girl a lady drink I EXPECT her to stay at least 20 minutes or so. If this new system IS the norm I can see me boycotting those bars that operate this way.
I work on the MO that the girl has to convince me to BF her, be f'ed if I put up with this shit!
NI.
[QUOTE=Davey1965;2890101]That's too bad. If she looked like the pic you posted I would be bummed out too. She's pretty hot.[/QUOTE]Yeah, Thai girls tend to be very picky, even when being paid. If you're not 25, a millionaire they really don't want to be with you.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2889996]I no longer buy medications from street vendors, I either bring from home or go to pharmacy. My last such purchase was from a tiny pharmacy on Soi 15 just a few steps from Sukhumvit on the left. No prescription was required.[/QUOTE]Technically a prescription is required, but some of the smaller pharmacies will over look this. Fake meds have been found with both street and pharmacies. YMMV.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2890079]Yes I know you don't go to Thailand for black but as an alternative to break the Yellow fever.
Anyone had any sessions with the African ladies. They seem to hunt in packs which I don't like, I would imagine they don't get many proposals.
Any idea of prices and performance.
Appreciate.
NI.[/QUOTE]My lone session with one was about five years ago in Pattaya it was nothing great and about market value at the time.
[QUOTE=LAHenry;2890106]Thanks for the post. I am curious too. I read sinfulkorean's reviews of ff were very positive. I also contacted FF, and tsgsideline, and some others. I'm concerned this is a bait and switch type of operation. You get a line to the booker, not the girl on the line. The booker is an a $$hole to be polite. He doesn't clarify the details of the service but just focused on making the booking. Rude and impatient. I suspect I'the be setting ourselves for a bad / poor experience. Although I have not tried, are you guys seeing a lot of face not matching actual scenarios? The booker says if face doesn't match photo, you can cancel free of charge. However, my concern is when you are in another hotel, not sure what tricks they (girl / pimp) could play with you when you refuse if girl doesn't match photo. Have any of you cancelled?[/QUOTE]I never encountered a rude booker, so either you were unlucky or something was lost in translation I suspect.
I admittedly never did cancel a booking, though I probably should have one time (girl's age was correct more or less, but she was sooo photoshopped that, yeah, it was her, but did not look nice at all in real life), but I'm quite sure there's no reason at all to be concerned about it as long as you cancel before you start anything. Except for a few cases where the fiwfans profile says it's not a real photo, but a "replica" or something like that, probably due to privacy reasons, all girls are the ones in the photos IME. So the problem is not bait and switch as much as someone being good at photoshop.
Worst that could happen is if you cancel several times is the agent will get fed up and block you, so you can't book with him again. Many of the girls also asked at first if I'm "ok with her". A few times I wanted to answer "hell yeah! Are you kidding me?" But I managed to control myself and just nod. I did complain once to the agent that the girl did not do some of the basic things listed on her profile, but just got a "sorry" in response and did not push it further.
Myself I like fiwfans. It's a bit of a gamble, true, but I've met some real babes there too, so as long as you accept that the surprise on the other side of the door will not always be good, it's an interesting way to spend the time.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2890191]Have just read (on another popular site that "sticks" in your memory) that the whole lady drink MO has changed. Appears that there is no guarantee of the girl actually staying with you and if you don't keep buying and buying its off to find another willing cash machine.
What's going on here? Is it that bad? Is it just in the big bars / clubs or is this across the board.
If I'm buying a girl a lady drink I EXPECT her to stay at least 20 minutes or so. If this new system IS the norm I can see me boycotting those bars that operate this way.
I work on the MO that the girl has to convince me to BF her, be f'ed if I put up with this shit!
NI.[/QUOTE]I'm curious also, returning to Bangkok next month. 6 years ago Angelwitch at Nana was a problem due to the ugly server rats scurrying around asking for ladydrinks. Billboard wasn't a problem. I tipped the mamasan upon entering and she always sent a hottie over to entertain me, so hot I never wanted to stay longer than 1 drink before barfining them. Never hassled by server rats there.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2890079]
Anyone had any sessions with the African ladies. They seem to hunt in packs which I don't like, I would imagine they don't get many proposals.
Any idea of prices and performance.[/QUOTE]A lot of black girls ply their trade outside Novotel on Soi 4. Walked past several times but never saw anything that caught my eye.
Back in December I had a session with a Tanzanian girl from TF. Average looking face but excellent body and very enthusiastic. Same rate asked for as the Thai girls.
It seems to me that about three quarters of the women on TF (Bangkok) between the ages of 18 and 30 are actually looking for a long term relationship. And, when their maximum age for their desired male partner is listed in the 30's or even 40, my chances of arranging a liason are small (my age is listed on the site as 59). In contrast, when I have been to Manila / Makati and gone fishing on PL, I can pretty much ignore the ages that are listed, and most of the girls respond to my greetings and want to meet, even when they say that the maximum age is 25! Not only do they want to meet, but they virtually always consummate the relationship.
Has anyone else noticed this? Is this difference a characteristic of the dating sites, or due to differences between Filiipinas and Thai women?
[QUOTE=Gladiator69;2890022]Saw this girl on TF. Booked her for later in the evening. When she showed up in the lobby, the vibe was strange. She was very reluctant with everything. Tried to kiss her after shower to get into the mood, but she was not into it. I felt like she didn't want to be there in the first place. It's like I was forcing her to do something she didn't want to do. I called it off, gave her taxi money and let her go. And she was mad.[/QUOTE]This is a good example, online is too risky. You know nothing about her, flirty, friendly, some passion, you have no idea and a good way to get a dud. Some won't agree but bars are the way to go unless you got time galore to shop around on the internet.
[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2890280]It seems to me that about three quarters of the women on TF (Bangkok) between the ages of 18 and 30 are actually looking for a long term relationship. And, when their maximum age for their desired male partner is listed in the 30's or even 40, my chances of arranging a liason are small (my age is listed on the site as 59). In contrast, when I have been to Manila / Makati and gone fishing on PL, I can pretty much ignore the ages that are listed, and most of the girls respond to my greetings and want to meet, even when they say that the maximum age is 25! Not only do they want to meet, but they virtually always consummate the relationship.
Has anyone else noticed this? Is this difference a characteristic of the dating sites, or due to differences between Filiipinas and Thai women?[/QUOTE]Found girls on TF to be more short term providers and PL about 50/50.
Alot of these sites are very much a time wasting exercise. Yes you might find a diamond but its a bit of work esp for a short time stayer. Better to hunt with what's on the ground there & then. So much changes in a day / week in these places. This is particularly true in the larger cities of Thailand. Plenty in clubs, GG bars and FL.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2890355]Found girls on TF to be more short term providers and PL about 50/50.
Alot of these sites are very much a time wasting exercise. Yes you might find a diamond but its a bit of work esp for a short time stayer. Better to hunt with what's on the ground there & then. So much changes in a day / week in these places. This is particularly true in the larger cities of Thailand. Plenty in clubs, GG bars and FL.[/QUOTE]I do not think you addressed my question. The issue is whether the TF women are more likely to actually be looking for long term relationships. It is clearly not a problem finding ST or LT on either web site. But I wonder if TF is becoming more of a regular dating site, and less of a site where girls are looking for P4 P. There are plenty of diamonds on both sites and for people like me (who hate bars) and really like the "non pro", TF is still my best bet in Thailand.
Make no mistake, every girl is looking for a long term relationship. #1 priority is taking care of her family (parents primarily, younger siblings and her own children second) which she will do at any cost. You will occasionally find a middle / upper middle class girl looking for the latest phone or designer hang bag but 99% of them would stop tomorrow for a reliable meal ticket. I've been at this a long time and don't care to spell out my credentials but this is a fact.
[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2890362]I do not think you addressed my question. The issue is whether the TF women are more likely to actually be looking for long term relationships. It is clearly not a problem finding ST or LT on either web site. But I wonder if TF is becoming more of a regular dating site, and less of a site where girls are looking for P4 P. There are plenty of diamonds on both sites and for people like me (who hate bars) and really like the "non pro", TF is still my best bet in Thailand.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2890244]A lot of black girls ply their trade outside Novotel on Soi 4. Walked past several times but never saw anything that caught my eye.
Back in December I had a session with a Tanzanian girl from TF. Average looking face but excellent body and very enthusiastic. Same rate asked for as the Thai girls.[/QUOTE]I was always curious too but was worried that there was a pimp following them around.
[QUOTE=FilthyBeaver;2890365]Make no mistake, every girl is looking for a long term relationship. #1 priority is taking care of her family (parents primarily, younger siblings and her own children second) which she will do at any cost. You will occasionally find a middle / upper middle class girl looking for the latest phone or designer hang bag but 99% of them would stop tomorrow for a reliable meal ticket. I've been at this a long time and don't care to spell out my credentials but this is a fact.[/QUOTE]I can't argue with your 99% figure.
But I have also been at this a long time and in my experience, at least with the outright P4 P girls, that holdout 1% constitute the ones that are the hottest, best in bed and most appealing to want an ongoing long term "arrangement" with in the first place. It turns out they are the ones who can and will decline an offer of good money on a regular basis to merely stop over for a session 2-3 times per week in favor of flaking out, not showing up and choosing to party and drink with their girl friends and new and different men.
They might talk a good game about wanting a good guy who provides that reliable meal ticket and support for the family. But my experience so far has been 4 out of 4 of those sweet young things who fall within that 1% who are the ones I could see myself wanting to session with every week into the future flake out on the deal usually by the middle of the first week. LOL.
The family and the meal ticket come in at a distant 2nd and 3rd place behind the fun, partying and drinking they can enjoy and still make pretty good money.
The other meh 99%? Sure, they might jump at and honor that reliable family support and meal ticket deal for long periods of time. Might. But it is going to be a tedious grind seeing a girl from that group over and over again week after week, imo.
[QUOTE=FilthyBeaver;2890365]Make no mistake, every girl is looking for a long term relationship. #1 priority is taking care of her family (parents primarily, younger siblings and her own children second) which she will do at any cost. You will occasionally find a middle / upper middle class girl looking for the latest phone or designer hang bag but 99% of them would stop tomorrow for a reliable meal ticket. I've been at this a long time and don't care to spell out my credentials but this is a fact.[/QUOTE]Here is an experiment to you TF guys. Put a pic of you looking old and gnarly ywith a stack of hundies and count your responses. Then take the pic down and count your responses.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2890446]Here is an experiment to you TF guys. Put a pic of you looking old and gnarly ywith a stack of hundies and count your responses. Then take the pic down and count your responses.[/QUOTE]Nyezhov, for those of us who don't have pictures like that easily available, could you send us a selfie to make it easier to conduct said experiment?
TF is IMO worth the time if you 1) are staying in Bangkok for some weeks 2) Spend a lot of time in front of your computer anyway due to work reasons so you can easily fire of a message now and then 3) start chatting a few weeks before arrival, know where you will be staying, and give the impression that you're already there. If doing that and looking presentable, you have a fair chance at meeting up with regular girls / woman for a normal date, and if that happens, a good chance of her wanting to join you in bed later. Same as in the West, except you being white and different gives you an extra point or two on the 1-10 beauty scale. I consider myself a solid 2 when in Thailand, so my odds increase greately.
🤣129315;129315;129315; the beav likes your style. I actually did exactly this on a recent trip to eastern Europe for a girl I really wanted to meet. She was a hard nut to crack but I got what I wanted so I can't argue with the results.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2890446]Here is an experiment to you TF guys. Put a pic of you looking old and gnarly ywith a stack of hundies and count your responses. Then take the pic down and count your responses.[/QUOTE]
Maybe I wasn't clear but there are party girls out there, as far as I'm concerned they fall into the same group that are looking for the latest gadget or overpriced hand bag.
I sessioned with two soapy girls a couple months back (in a couple hour span, thanks cialis!) and they were both supporting their families from one of the many rural parts of Thailand which is the same story I've heard for 20+years.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2890407]I can't argue with your 99% figure.
But I have also been at this a long time and in my experience, at least with the outright P4 P girls, that holdout 1% constitute the ones that are the hottest, best in bed and most appealing to want an ongoing long term "arrangement" with in the first place. It turns out they are the ones who can and will decline an offer of good money on a regular basis to merely stop over for a session 2-3 times per week in favor of flaking out, not showing up and choosing to party and drink with their girl friends and new and different men.
They might talk a good game about wanting a good guy who provides that reliable meal ticket and support for the family. But my experience so far has been 4 out of 4 of those sweet young things who fall within that 1% who are the ones I could see myself wanting to session with every week into the future flake out on the deal usually by the middle of the first week. LOL.
The family and the meal ticket come in at a distant 2nd and 3rd place behind the fun, partying and drinking they can enjoy and still make pretty good money.
The other meh 99%? Sure, they might jump at and honor that reliable family support and meal ticket deal for long periods of time. Might. But it is going to be a tedious grind seeing a girl from that group over and over again week after week, imo.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2890407]I can't argue with your 99% figure.
But I have also been at this a long time and in my experience, at least with the outright P4 P girls, that holdout 1% constitute the ones that are the hottest, best in bed and most appealing to want an ongoing long term "arrangement" with in the first place. It turns out they are the ones who can and will decline an offer of good money on a regular basis to merely stop over for a session 2-3 times per week in favor of flaking out, not showing up and choosing to party and drink with their girl friends and new and different men.
They might talk a good game about wanting a good guy who provides that reliable meal ticket and support for the family. But my experience so far has been 4 out of 4 of those sweet young things who fall within that 1% who are the ones I could see myself wanting to session with every week into the future flake out on the deal usually by the middle of the first week. LOL.
The family and the meal ticket come in at a distant 2nd and 3rd place behind the fun, partying and drinking they can enjoy and still make pretty good money.
The other meh 99%? Sure, they might jump at and honor that reliable family support and meal ticket deal for long periods of time. Might. But it is going to be a tedious grind seeing a girl from that group over and over again week after week, imo.[/QUOTE]Could not agree more. When I first moved here almost a quarter of a century ago, pretty much every gal was looking for a husband. Barfines would fold your clothes, put toothpaste on your toothbrush and really lay on the sales pitch. That changed as ST and LT prices increased and when the coyote nonsense started in the mid 00's and gals could make a living just dancing and getting drinks.
Before the salary increase standing on Cowboy or right outside Nana at closing time was amazing. Hundreds of gals would get off work and try their best to convince the guys waiting out there to take them. Once they were making 30 k a month as opposed to eight or nine k their priorities were more towards partying with their friends after work.
In addition if you were girls actually wanted long-term relationships opting instead for sugar daddies who sent money on a regular basis. I think this trend has continued.
[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2890280]It seems to me that about three quarters of the women on TF (Bangkok) between the ages of 18 and 30 are actually looking for a long term relationship. And, when their maximum age for their desired male partner is listed in the 30's or even 40, my chances of arranging a liason are small (my age is listed on the site as 59). In contrast, when I have been to Manila / Makati and gone fishing on PL, I can pretty much ignore the ages that are listed, and most of the girls respond to my greetings and want to meet, even when they say that the maximum age is 25! Not only do they want to meet, but they virtually always consummate the relationship.
Has anyone else noticed this? Is this difference a characteristic of the dating sites, or due to differences between Filiipinas and Thai women?[/QUOTE]FWIW, my current TF experience has sucked. In 2019, I was slightly successful in receiving replies. My current campaign: I've sent about 50 messages. Maybe 2-3 were read. One girl replied who appeared to be looking for a srs relationship (1-yr old baby, daddy took off, she has 3 jobs).
I think the reason may be in 2019, I listed my location as Phuket. Now it is in the US. As the seasoned vets here know, girls want to meet guys that are in Thailand.
Maybe I'll change my location back to Phuket and see what happens.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2890597] Once they were making 30 k a month as opposed to eight or nine k their priorities were more towards partying with their friends after work.[/QUOTE]Which is exactly how it should be.
[QUOTE=BackInBangkok;2889874]Last time I was in Bangkok was 6 years ago. There was a street vendor near Thermae that had boxes of Sidegra for sale, helps my stamina when the condom is required. Is that guy still selling along Sukhumvit? Is Sidegra available over the counter in Bangkok pharmacies?[/QUOTE]You can find generic viagra in every pharmacy store all along Sukh. No need to go to shady vendor.
So I will be in Bangkok the weekend of the 21st, will some one kindly update the Thermae reports and Billboard. I think I will just concentrate on those two for the weekend.
Hi guys,
Do you know what's going on in Nonthaburi?
How is the soapy / MP scene there?
What about the chances of picking up someone.
Apart from Ocean Gabanna, I haven't found any credible information there.
I posted on another thread named "Other Areas", but I didn't get any replies.
I need to be there for a few days next month, so I have to decide if I should take a room there near Impact Arena, or stay in Bangkok and take a taxi everyday.
I would like to know if I can find some good action.
[QUOTE=Zam007;2891139]Hi guys,
Do you know what's going on in Nonthaburi?
How is the soapy / MP scene there?
What about the chances of picking up someone.
Apart from Ocean Gabanna, I haven't found any credible information there.
I posted on another thread named "Other Areas", but I didn't get any replies.
I need to be there for a few days next month, so I have to decide if I should take a room there near Impact Arena, or stay in Bangkok and take a taxi everyday.
I would like to know if I can find some good action.[/QUOTE]Nothanburi, pak kret, etc are Fiwfans territory if you are farang.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2891078]So I will be in Bangkok the weekend of the 21st, will some one kindly update the Thermae reports and Billboard. I think I will just concentrate on those two for the weekend.[/QUOTE]No change. I'm making this report being 5,000 miles away. LOL.
March 15 for my Return.
This tax thing is highly annoying.
Fwifans is a complete let down for me. After hounding me for my arrival time every few min for a hour, when I arrived I was told the girl I wanted to see had to go to the hospital for some BS health reason. They asked me to pick another and I would have normally just left but as I've been trying out the game outside of my soapy preference I picked the girl. She looked nothing like her pic. Stats were wrong, fave wasn't close and body make have been about 10 years ago. Needless to say I was extremely disappointed. This wasn't in nonthaburi but the agency was tsgsideline and I'd never do business with them again and would encourage anyone to stay away. Complete bait and switch scam.
After that went to Poseidon and got exactly what I wanted.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2891341]Nothanburi, pak kret, etc are Fiwfans territory if you are farang.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Zam007;2891139]Hi guys,
Do you know what's going on in Nonthaburi?
How is the soapy / MP scene there?
What about the chances of picking up someone.
Apart from Ocean Gabanna, I haven't found any credible information there.
I posted on another thread named "Other Areas", but I didn't get any replies.
I need to be there for a few days next month, so I have to decide if I should take a room there near Impact Arena, or stay in Bangkok and take a taxi everyday.
I would like to know if I can find some good action.[/QUOTE]To answer your questions about Nonthaburi: There is no soapy scene in Nonthaburi. And for MPs there is nothing equivalent to the MP scene as found in the lower Sukhumvit area. There are some local MPs providing services almost exclusively to Thai clientele. The ladies in these are usually a bit older and mostly speak no English at all. So if you don't want to take a taxi to Bangkok and it's local action you want, the best options are using the Fiwfans website, which does have many girls listed in the Nonthaburi / Pakkret area, or else visiting one of the many Kapoo clubs in the area.
I will be travelling to Bangkok as a part of my month long trip. How should I crack the scene as a newbie. Kind seniors please post links to legendary posts from this forum, which might help a newbie out. My membership just expired this week and I am in the process of renewing it.
TIA.
[QUOTE=BackInBangkok;2889874]Last time I was in Bangkok was 6 years ago. There was a street vendor near Thermae that had boxes of Sidegra for sale, helps my stamina when the condom is required. Is that guy still selling along Sukhumvit? Is Sidegra available over the counter in Bangkok pharmacies?[/QUOTE]That guy is still there. I think he was recently awarded December 2023 Best Sales. The plaque is posted on pole next to him. He owns the franchise there near Thermae. I understand he will be eligible for retirement soon. He will be selling the profitable franchise then.
Why buy over the counter when you can bypass the middleman, save some money and support the local entrepreneur?
[QUOTE=SiamMan;2891673]To answer your questions about Nonthaburi: There is no soapy scene in Nonthaburi. And for MPs there is nothing equivalent to the MP scene as found in the lower Sukhumvit area. There are some local MPs providing services almost exclusively to Thai clientele. The ladies in these are usually a bit older and mostly speak no English at all. So if you don't want to take a taxi to Bangkok and it's local action you want, the best options are using the Fiwfans website, which does have many girls listed in the Nonthaburi / Pakkret area, or else visiting one of the many Kapoo clubs in the area.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply.
I am curious about the FIWFANS scene outside BKK.
Will try it out once!
Thanks once again.
Funny chick LOL.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2881562]Your budget is plenty strong for Bangkok. You say you have done Brasil. Like Scandallo or Bomboa? Or elsewhere. Bangkok is great fun and generally cheap. Having a legit thai massage (no sex) for $10/ HR every day does not suck.
My main advice to you is don't try to do the 30 hours all at once. Stop overnight in London and you can be in Heidi's bed (Diva escort) within an hour of landing. You won't get a better B2 B FBSM anywhere worldwide. Or stop overnight in Frankfurt and do Sharks or Oase FKK. Do one coming and one on way back. This is the way to fly to Thailand. .[/QUOTE]I'm wanting to travel to Thailand for the first time for the girls really not touring. If you layover in one of those countries, which would be the cheapest or likely stand out in girl service if you never been?
Budget if went to Colombia would be 5,000 USD Total including Flights. If I add on for the flight increase to Thailand, how far would that go or a recommended budget for 2 weeks, and what's the average baht usd range for girls?
This is a Pattaya video but wondering if its accurate to say that you could walk up to any< of these girls for FS [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Rb47YuT8KI[/URL].
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Poseidon16;2891700]I will be travelling to Bangkok as a part of my month long trip. How should I crack the scene as a newbie. Kind seniors please post links to legendary posts from this forum, which might help a newbie out. My membership just expired this week and I am in the process of renewing it.
TIA.[/QUOTE]Hi please do my work for me.
RTMFF. You're welcome. This is by far one of the most active boards on this sight. If you can't figure it out, I doubt that anybody can help you.
However, if you care to pay me to write a dissertation I want 5 k front and 5 k when I'm done. That's euros not baht, I've yet to find a slav happy to get baht.
[QUOTE=Poseidon16;2891700]I will be travelling to Bangkok as a part of my month long trip. How should I crack the scene as a newbie. Kind seniors please post links to legendary posts from this forum, which might help a newbie out. My membership just expired this week and I am in the process of renewing it..[/QUOTE]
I have spent around 4 hours total in Thermae the past 2 nights. Just taking a quick break now resting up from my session. Quick notes. Pretty dead at 8:30 pm. 30 girls? Guys and girls start pouring in at 9:15 pm. By 10 pm it's wall to wall girls and you can't even walk in there. Lots of nice ones. Maybe close to the best I've seen Thermae since 2016. You have to be patient there and wait for the best girls to show up late or return from a session. I see many many many guys too chicken shit to ask the top girls. I see groups of guys who come in talk to their buddies and never ask a girl. I notice the girls are more grabby than before even the half decent younger ones.
I was shot down not once but twice tonight by who I felt were the 2 girls I wanted to go with the most. One looked like a Harajuku girl from Japan who was busty and 5 foot tall maybe 19. Wanted 4 k so that to me is a big FOAD. Another reminded me of Emma Raducanu. I knew she was going to shoot me down but I'm not one to shy away from that. Don't have regrets just ask them if you like them. I noticed all she eyed were tall young decent looking Japanese in their early 20's. She wasn't even interested in ones over 25. Me with my combover stood no chance! Again, better to ask than think what if.
Messed up on a girl named Pin. Cutesy young slim very short bob cut. Talked to her a few minutes. Said maybe. Came back under a minute later to grab her and she was gone. Going back down now to hopefully find her.
Asking price is 3k. Walk around a bit more the same girl will drop her price if she's still sitting there.
Final piece of advice to the newbies. Guys, try to dress like you care.
Far be it from me to tell someone how to monger but why put yourself through this? Any decent sized soapy with a fishbowl and / or sideliners will never turn you down for anything unless your kink is off the charts.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2892145]I have spent around 4 hours total in Thermae the past 2 nights. Just taking a quick break now resting up from my session. Quick notes. Pretty dead at 8:30 pm. 30 girls? Guys and girls start pouring in at 9:15 pm. By 10 pm it's wall to wall girls and you can't even walk in there. Lots of nice ones. Maybe close to the best I've seen Thermae since 2016. You have to be patient there and wait for the best girls to show up late or return from a session. I see many many many guys too chicken shit to ask the top girls. I see groups of guys who come in talk to their buddies and never ask a girl. I notice the girls are more grabby than before even the half decent younger ones.
I was shot down not once but twice tonight by who I felt were the 2 girls I wanted to go with the most. One looked like a Harajuku girl from Japan who was busty and 5 foot tall maybe 19. Wanted 4 k so that to me is a big FOAD. Another reminded me of Emma Raducanu. I knew she was going to shoot me down but I'm not one to shy away from that. Don't have regrets just ask them if you like them. I noticed all she eyed were tall young decent looking Japanese in their early 20's. She wasn't even interested in ones over 25. Me with my combover stood no chance! Again, better to ask than think what if. .[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Poseidon16;2891700]I will be travelling to Bangkok as a part of my month long trip. How should I crack the scene as a newbie. Kind seniors please post links to legendary posts from this forum, which might help a newbie out. My membership just expired this week and I am in the process of renewing it.
TIA.[/QUOTE]Are you the kind of friend who only smoke if the others have cigarettes to offer? Anyway GPT is the only one who will do the job on your behalf for free.
[QUOTE=FilthyBeaver;2892204]Far be it from me to tell someone how to monger but why put yourself through this? Any decent sized soapy with a fishbowl and / or sideliners will never turn you down for anything unless your kink is off the charts.[/QUOTE]Because it's fun to people watch besides anything else. I usually rip a few outside before I go in, say Hi to my staff buddies, Check out the merchandise, say Hi, and enjoy the antics. It's not as sterile as a fish bowl and you can meet people and actually have some fun. Usually, I play Spot the American, and I have yet to make a mistake. If you're from the states, try that sometime, sit there and observe all the Asian guys and pretty soon, you'll be able to spot who the Asian Americans are, of which there are usually a bunch blending in and taking advantage of their ethnicity.
This is more to the oldies in the group, of which I am one. Spent many years in Asia and bounced around China / Vietnam / Philippines and lots of time in Indonesia especially Jakarta. Have spent my fair share of time in Bangkok & Phuket but never been to Pattaya. Have a flight into Bangkok in a couple of weeks, and will supposedly have my porn star freebie from Indonesia coming with me who is in to all sorts of kink, including proper 3 somes. However some bad timing means her husband (don't even ask) may be visiting her in Indonesia the same week, so I may be arriving in Bangkok with full balls and a need for a back-up plan.
Main question is. Is Pattaya actually worth the visit for a couple of days? Looking on the Pattaya thread it seems a bit so-so. Looking online. Instagram, Facebook etc. , there's nothing that really gets my juices going from Pattaya, the clubs / bars in Bangkok have far better looking ladies and way more options / entertainment areas. I've probably talked myself into just staying in Bangkok for 5 nights, but just asking a general question of those that may spend time in both. Pattaya, worth it or not.
P.S. - don't give a shit about beaches or site seeing, once you've seen one temple or big Buddha you've seen them all. I'll go to the gym if I get bored.
Does anyone know if Barbar in Patpong is closed? I've seen some reports that it was struggling.
I went to Thailand for a month right as COVID was ramping up and had a fun time (I'm into that freaky shit). I saw Eden and Devils Den are gone RIP.
I'm headed back there for a rematch in March. Anywhere else I should short list to checkout? All I found was Demonia and some indie mistresses.
Cheers.
The handful of times I've been, especially when good looking white guys aren't given the time of day by the hottest is hilarious. For me, knowing what I want and knowing I can't fuck her when I know what she's there for is masochistic. I guess I could lower my standards nut that's not going to happen anytime soon.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2892234]Because it's fun to people watch besides anything else. I usually rip a few outside before I go in, say Hi to my staff buddies, Check out the merchandise, say Hi, and enjoy the antics. It's not as sterile as a fish bowl and you can meet people and actually have some fun. Usually, I play Spot the American, and I have yet to make a mistake. If you're from the states, try that sometime, sit there and observe all the Asian guys and pretty soon, you'll be able to spot who the Asian Americans are, of which there are usually a bunch blending in and taking advantage of their ethnicity.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=IrishMongrel;2892271]This is more to the oldies in the group, of which I am one. Spent many years in Asia and bounced around China / Vietnam / Philippines and lots of time in Indonesia especially Jakarta. Have spent my fair share of time in Bangkok & Phuket but never been to Pattaya. Have a flight into Bangkok in a couple of weeks, and will supposedly have my porn star freebie from Indonesia coming with me who is in to all sorts of kink, including proper 3 somes. However some bad timing means her husband (don't even ask) may be visiting her in Indonesia the same week, so I may be arriving in Bangkok with full balls and a need for a back-up plan.
Main question is. Is Pattaya actually worth the visit for a couple of days? Looking on the Pattaya thread it seems a bit so-so. Looking online. Instagram, Facebook etc. , there's nothing that really gets my juices going from Pattaya, the clubs / bars in Bangkok have far better looking ladies and way more options / entertainment areas. I've probably talked myself into just staying in Bangkok for 5 nights, but just asking a general question of those that may spend time in both. Pattaya, worth it or not.
P.S. - don't give a shit about beaches or site seeing, once you've seen one temple or big Buddha you've seen them all. I'll go to the gym if I get bored.[/QUOTE]My last trip to Pattaya was a couple of months ago. 5 days. I also had my GF from Bangkok with me. I should mention she is only into me and not into sharing. I did not regret having her with me the whole time in Pattaya for one minute. We cruised around the usual Red Light districts, Walking Street, LK Metro, Soi 6, Beach Road, etc a few times. I cruised down Soi 6 "alone" one Saturday night, my girlfriend's idea, just to check out the vibe that way.
Although I did see a few more lookers I could imagine wanting to fuck on Soi 6 that trip than I did in the past 12 years of Pattaya outings from my residence in Bangkok, it still wasn't enough to really get my juices going as you put it or to wish my GF hadn't been with me on the trip (for a change of scenery and chill out on a beach lounger for a few days).
And I would say Soi 6 had the most potential in terms of doables compared to everywhere else in town other than a handful of presumably wildly overpriced and way, way under delivering Pattaya "super stars" inside a few Walking Street gogo bars I looked in.
In the Pattaya Reports forum there is a lot of talk and debate on the issue of which or how many Soi 6 girls have upped their asking and getting prices from 1,000 baht to them and 300 to the Short Time room to 1,500 - 2,000/2,500 to them plus 300 or whatever for the room.
But based on my observation and experience on my last trip and looking at the various YouTube videos of the girls lining up on the soi and hanging out in the bars, if you can spot more than a tiny percent who would be worth 800 baht total including the Short Time room even if those Soi 6 "super stars" delivered the mythical (in my Pattaya experience) no hassle, no discussion DFK, BBBJ and BBFS+CIP, then your eyes are much sharper than mine.
Actually, the only times I have gotten that (for me) mythical experience in Pattaya with a notably attractive girl over the past 12 years, dozens of trips there and more dozens of encounters with P4 P girls was when I brought a girl from Bangkok with me as I did a couple of months ago. LOL.
Of course, as always, YMMV. And it is always possible in your first 2 nights in Pattaya you might stumble onto some beautiful, fresh, young rice farm girl who just arrived herself and is ready for anything, maybe never saw a 1,000 baht note in person before.
[QUOTE=IrishMongrel;2892271]This is more to the oldies in the group, of which I am one. Spent many years in Asia and bounced around China / Vietnam / Philippines and lots of time in Indonesia especially Jakarta. Have spent my fair share of time in Bangkok & Phuket but never been to Pattaya. Have a flight into Bangkok in a couple of weeks, and will supposedly have my porn star freebie from Indonesia coming with me who is in to all sorts of kink, including proper 3 somes. However some bad timing means her husband (don't even ask) may be visiting her in Indonesia the same week, so I may be arriving in Bangkok with full balls and a need for a back-up plan.
Main question is. Is Pattaya actually worth the visit for a couple of days? Looking on the Pattaya thread it seems a bit so-so. Looking online. Instagram, Facebook etc. , there's nothing that really gets my juices going from Pattaya, the clubs / bars in Bangkok have far better looking ladies and way more options / entertainment areas. I've probably talked myself into just staying in Bangkok for 5 nights, but just asking a general question of those that may spend time in both. Pattaya, worth it or not.
P.S. - don't give a shit about beaches or site seeing, once you've seen one temple or big Buddha you've seen them all. I'll go to the gym if I get bored.[/QUOTE]What is your budget? Pattaya is definitely worth a 2 day visit especially if you've never been, Then again with only 5 days in Bangkok I can't imagine that you couldn't keep yourself busy staying in Bangkok. Pattaya has something for everyone. If you're on a budget there are many inexpensive options. If you've got money to burn to can find top quality go-go girls.
You also didn't mention if you like go-go bars, regular bars, clubs, gentlemen's clubs or street freelancers.
I think you should post this question in The Pattaya forum and provide a little more information about what you're looking for and what you're willing to spend. This is the Bangkok Forum so I won't post detailed Pattaya information here.
[QUOTE=Poseidon16;2891700]I will be travelling to Bangkok as a part of my month long trip. How should I crack the scene as a newbie. Kind seniors please post links to legendary posts from this forum, which might help a newbie out. My membership just expired this week and I am in the process of renewing it.
TIA.[/QUOTE]Check the "Link to Reporrs of Distinction" section in the Thailand forum.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2892285]My last trip to Pattaya was a couple of months ago. 5 days. I also had my GF from Bangkok with me. I should mention she is only into me and not into sharing. I did not regret having her with me the whole time in Pattaya for one minute. We cruised around the usual Red Light districts, Walking Street, LK Metro, Soi 6, Beach Road, etc a few times. I cruised down Soi 6 "alone" one Saturday night, my girlfriend's idea, just to check out the vibe that way.
Although I did see a few more lookers I could imagine wanting to fuck on Soi 6 that trip than I did in the past 12 years of Pattaya outings from my residence in Bangkok, it still wasn't enough to really get my juices going as you put it or to wish my GF hadn't been with me on the trip (for a change of scenery and chill out on a beach lounger for a few days).
And I would say Soi 6 had the most potential in terms of doables compared to everywhere else in town other than a handful of presumably wildly overpriced and way, way under delivering Pattaya "super stars" inside a few Walking Street gogo bars I looked in.
In the Pattaya Reports forum there is a lot of talk and debate on the issue of which or how many Soi 6 girls have upped their asking and getting prices from 1,000 baht to them and 300 to the Short Time room to 1,500 - 2,000/2,500 to them plus 300 or whatever for the room.
But based on my observation and experience on my last trip and looking at the various YouTube videos of the girls lining up on the soi and hanging out in the bars, if you can spot more than a tiny percent who would be worth 800 baht total including the Short Time room even if those Soi 6 "super stars" delivered the mythical (in my Pattaya experience) no hassle, no discussion DFK, BBBJ and BBFS+CIP, then your eyes are much sharper than mine.
Actually, the only times I have gotten that (for me) mythical experience in Pattaya with a notably attractive girl over the past 12 years, dozens of trips there and more dozens of encounters with P4 P girls was when I brought a girl from Bangkok with me as I did a couple of months ago. LOL.
Of course, as always, YMMV. And it is always possible in your first 2 nights in Pattaya you might stumble onto some beautiful, fresh, young rice farm girl who just arrived herself and is ready for anything, maybe never saw a 1,000 baht note in person before.[/QUOTE]I stopped going to Pattaya 15? Years ago. If Monger Gods like you have that to say about it, my decision was justified.
Here is a blast from the past for everyone. Who remembers a famous Pattaya internet pioneer named Winston, who partied there? And the Bar on walking street overlooking the water where the falangs hung out, the name escapes me now. Maybe 1996?
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2892482]I stopped going to Pattaya 15? Years ago. If Monger Gods like you have that to say about it, my decision was justified.
Here is a blast from the past for everyone. Who remembers a famous Pattaya internet pioneer named Winston, who partied there? And the Bar on walking street overlooking the water where the falangs hung out, the name escapes me now. Maybe 1996?[/QUOTE]LOL. Thanks for the props, but I am sure a true Monger God would have found more atractive girls somewhere in Pattaya and gotten much more of the (for me) mythical no hassle, no discussion Pattaya "norm" DFK, BBBJ and BBFS+CIP with those hotties than I have over my many trips there.
I used to prefer Pattaya over Bangkok 25-30 years ago when I was only traveling to Thailand as a tourist-monger. Although in those days that was based more on Pattaya mongering being cheaper than Bangkok and it was in those pre MRT / BTS days when traffic and street level vehicle noise and pollution in Bangkok was much less tolerable. I just wanted to get out of Bangkok ASAP. Not so anymore.
Where it got more difficult for me to justify bothering to monger in Pattaya with the talent I saw there and the level of P4 P service I experienced there was after I set up residence in Bangkok more than 12 years ago.
By comparison to what I had and knew was much more available to me in Bangkok, going to Pattaya grew to be more of a place to take a break from truly rewarding mongering with lookers than a place to go to find it. LOL.
Anyway, it appeared the op was also already a fan of mongering in Bangkok and looking for feedback from a similar mindset on whether it was worth it to spend 2-3 days mongering in Pattaya instead. So imo it made sense for him to ask about it in the Bangkok Forum vs the feedback he is more likely to get on that question in the Pattaya Forum.
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I was very lucky to meet Bell during my last visit. She still deserves all the praise / good reviews / worship because she really is amazing. I could even see it being in my bucket list LOL.
I was visiting Bangkok to attend the Affiliate World Conference in December and we met a few times in my hotelroom.
She looks very sexy and she is in great shape. I think she works out quite a bit and it definitely shows!
The sex itself was also just what you would expect. For me it was somewhere in between sensual / GFE / pse, but I can imagine that this is different for some. I did not ask for anything special, but she can go all directions I think. In any case, it is likely impossible to be unsatisfied by her.
This time I didn't ask for any special services, but in the past I have asked do a-level. It went very well. Just like in porn, she can easily keep up.
She also offers BDSM dates now. I don't know much about what can happen during such dates, so I asked her (in the past she didn't offer this, but now she is very confident about this so I asked). She can be pretty intimidating if you ask her to. She really can just flip that switch and all of a sudden you just feel yourself become submissive. I learned that she likes to punish you if you don't obey. This can result in her forcing you to eat your own cum for example. Pegging is also something she will happily do to you. If you like things like this, you will not be disappointed.
All in all, if you have the chance, do yourself a favor and meet with her. She has a great personality and her services (as many have said already) are incredible.
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I was very lucky to meet Bell during my last visit. She still deserves all the praise / good reviews / worship because she really is amazing. I could even see it being in my bucket list LOL.
I was visiting Bangkok to attend the Affiliate World Conference in December and we met a few times in my hotelroom.
She looks very sexy and she is in great shape. I think she works out quite a bit and it definitely shows!
The sex itself was also just what you would expect. For me it was somewhere in between sensual / GFE / pse, but I can imagine that this is different for some. I did not ask for anything special, but she can go all directions I think. In any case, it is likely impossible to be unsatisfied by her.
This time I didn't ask for any special services, but in the past I have asked do a-level. It went very well. Just like in porn, she can easily keep up.
She also offers BDSM dates now. I don't know much about what can happen during such dates, so I asked her (in the past she didn't offer this, but now she is very confident about this so I asked). She can be pretty intimidating if you ask her to. She really can just flip that switch and all of a sudden you just feel yourself become submissive. I learned that she likes to punish you if you don't obey. This can result in her forcing you to eat your own cum for example. Pegging is also something she will happily do to you. If you like things like this, you will not be disappointed.
All in all, if you have the chance, do yourself a favor and meet with her. She has a great personality and her services (as many have said already) are incredible.[/QUOTE]Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.
All in favor of self review say aye.
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All in all, if you have the chance, do yourself a favor and meet with her. She has a great personality and her services (as many have said already) are incredible.[/QUOTE]This really is a well written ad.
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I was very lucky to meet Bell during my last visit. She still deserves all the praise / good reviews / worship because she really is amazing. I could even see it being in my bucket list LOL.
I was visiting Bangkok to attend the Affiliate World Conference in December and we met a few times in my hotelroom.
She looks very sexy and she is in great shape. I think she works out quite a bit and it definitely shows!
The sex itself was also just what you would expect. For me it was somewhere in between sensual / GFE / pse, but I can imagine that this is different for some. I did not ask for anything special, but she can go all directions I think. In any case, it is likely impossible to be unsatisfied by her.
This time I didn't ask for any special services, but in the past I have asked do a-level. It went very well. Just like in porn, she can easily keep up.
She also offers BDSM dates now. I don't know much about what can happen during such dates, so I asked her (in the past she didn't offer this, but now she is very confident about this so I asked). She can be pretty intimidating if you ask her to. She really can just flip that switch and all of a sudden you just feel yourself become submissive. I learned that she likes to punish you if you don't obey. This can result in her forcing you to eat your own cum for example. Pegging is also something she will happily do to you. If you like things like this, you will not be disappointed.
All in all, if you have the chance, do yourself a favor and meet with her. She has a great personality and her services (as many have said already) are incredible.[/QUOTE]To each their own but men who pay money to "submit" to women. Being "forced" to eat your own specimen. Yeh no. Not flying halfway around the world pay for that. Nor would I do that for free.
Good day, m'ladyboy.
Obviously I am not familiar with fewfans but thinking that it may be about time to try it out considering the ever declining numbers of freelancers on Sukumvit road.
I know that TF girls are mostly freelancers, some are looking for long term relations, some just want to earn money. But how does fiewfans girls work? Are they all "staged" by escorts agencies and operate out of rooms in certain locations (buildings or hotels) or are they freelancers that one can talk to on whatsapp to verify age / face / vibes etc. And they will come to your hotel room for a reasonable price?
[QUOTE=Margaya;2892921]Obviously I am not familiar with fewfans but thinking that it may be about time to try it out considering the ever declining numbers of freelancers on Sukumvit road.
I know that TF girls are mostly freelancers, some are looking for long term relations, some just want to earn money. But how does fiewfans girls work? Are they all "staged" by escorts agencies and operate out of rooms in certain locations (buildings or hotels) or are they freelancers that one can talk to on whatsapp to verify age / face / vibes etc. And they will come to your hotel room for a reasonable price?[/QUOTE]Most of them are part of an agency so you'll be talking to her handler so you won't be able to really ask question and get an answer from the girl. Some of them say they're independant with no agency listed so they could be answering themselves. Seems like they all use telegram / line, the agency. Nope never seen one listed that will go to your room. Usually there will be multiple ladies in the same hotels.
[QUOTE=Margaya;2892921]Obviously I am not familiar with fewfans but thinking that it may be about time to try it out considering the ever declining numbers of freelancers on Sukumvit road.
I know that TF girls are mostly freelancers, some are looking for long term relations, some just want to earn money. But how does fiewfans girls work? Are they all "staged" by escorts agencies and operate out of rooms in certain locations (buildings or hotels) or are they freelancers that one can talk to on whatsapp to verify age / face / vibes etc. And they will come to your hotel room for a reasonable price?[/QUOTE]Fiwfans lists hundreds, if not thousands, of girls. You can search and check any of the girls you like the look of. Their listing will include what services they will, and won't, offer, plus their prices and location. It will also include pictures, but be warned many of these are heavily photoshopped. You can limit your search to a particular location; I do this because I don't live in central Bangkok. The vast majority of girls work out of their own room, usually in a hotel. You can make contact through the Line link provided; they all use Line, not Whatsapp. Your request for a booking will be answered on Line, usually by a booking agent, although some do work independently and will answer you request directly, Google translates these as "take the job yourself".
Good luck.
First of all thank you very much for all the posters and information and also for the ones answering my questions. Now my post did get a bit long but wanted to also give back a bit.
I went first to Tulip early afternoon (see separate report) and then relaxed in the hotel in the afternoon and drank some iced coffees to get ready for the night. After 2 drinks and some light food early evening n the hotel lounge it was time to see the main attractions. Because I had only one evening I decided to try all 3 main things, Soi Cowboy, Thermae and Nana. Unfortunately no wing man but I felt well prepared with all the info I found here.
I started around 7:30 pm at Soi Cowboy and walked it up and down and glanced into various places. They were still relatively empty at this time of the evening. After walking and looking I went into Crazy House, sat down on a bench, got a beer and watched the fully naked dancers on the stage. The upper floor was still closed so I could not enjoy the view through the glass ceiling to the 2nd level dance floor. The place was not that full yet and while I was there quite a lot of girls came in. After a while I picked a girl from the dance floor to sit with me. They showed me the lady drinks and she picked the double one for 400 bath. I didn't feel like arguing but decided not to buy her more. I talked a bit to her and she tried to convince me to go with her upstairs to bang her. She tried to sell for a while so I did get something out of the expensive drink but then she figured I won't bite and gave up. I finished my drink and left. Looks of the girls were ok, not great but some were good enough for my standards (6-8). I did not like the upsell on the drink though and decided to leave. Afterwards looked into various bars (Baccara, Doll House, Tilac) but it was not too full yet and also didn't see any particular girl that caught my eye.
After Soi Cowboy I walked to Thermae, sat down and drank a beer. It was good people watching with more Asian then Western customers. I also did see some girls only talking to Asians. I walked a couple rounds to get a better look and saw some lookers and more then half of them did smile at me when I looked at them. I decided not to talk to any one of them yet because I wanted to go to Nana first but figured Thermae as a good option to come back to. It was full but not packed and you could find a seat in the middle bar area. Lots of girls and not too many being taken while I was there (maybe 45 minutes). Girls stood on the outside and guys walked the rounds. With some of the girls it was also harder to figure out how they would look undressed. I did like the place though and it is quite relaxed with the girls not allowed to approach you.
My last stop was Nana and I walked the floors but had my eye on Billboard from the reports here. The ground floor was full of people drinking and looked like fun to sit with some friends. Most bars on the lower floors tried to get me in but none of them had lookers in the front. After walking around and getting a hang of the place I went into Billboard. Saw the girls in the tub topless but not that active some kind of slightly moving in the water. Not sure what the attraction is. I got a seat on a bench with a good view to the rotating stage. The stage was pretty full with a variety of girls. I didn't see a 9 or above and most were in the 6-7 range. I drank a beer and watched for a while and then decided to pick a girl that smiled a couple times towards me and also put on some moves on the pole rather than some of the others that barely moved.
The waitress sent her over and she was a good choice. Got her lady drink (200 bath) and was touchy and danced a bit in my booth, sat on my lap and gyrated on me, also spanked her butt a bit and tried to suck her nipples. Felt almost like in a strip club. I bought her 2 more drinks and 1 for the waitress and we had a pretty good time. Her English was decent but not great so we could talk a bit. She was also not too pushy on the lady drinks and we sat there for quite a while, not sure how long but felt like closer to 1 hour. I did not ask her up front if I can take her out because originally I wanted to go back to Thermae. But she did a good job making me horny so I asked her for the bar fee and her fee. She gave me the price I already knew (700 bar fine and 4000 for herself) for short time. I am not a LT person and rather sleep alone (I am now in the camp that you pay them to leave you afterwards). I am not sure she would have done LT, she did ask me though what hotel I was staying in (not walking distance with her high heels and 5 star) and she claimed she knew it. Settled the bill (980 for the drinks, 700 bar fine and 4000 her fee) and she got dressed.
She had some flimsy red dress that screamed hooker (in the Philippines last time I took out a girl she was dressed next door style with jeans etc.) with high heels. We walked to a nearby short time hotel and I paid 300 for the room. Room was very small and basic but the shower worked well. We did shower separate though with me first. This is a drawback not taking them to your hotel room where you have a couch, chair, king sized bed, bathtub, large shower etc. But as I said before I prefer ST and she would have stood out a lot in the hotel lobby. Blowjob was average but she mounted me and was an energizer bunny. Because I came twice in the afternoon she had to work extra hard and I had her mainly on top in cowgirl and reverse cowgirl, mish, from behind etc. It took me forever to come and she more or less run out of lubricant so I had her finish me with a blow and hand job. Afterwards she started to shower and get dressed so I guess ST is one shot but I also did not ask for a 2nd one and it was 60-90 minutes already in the room.
I talked a bit to her before leaving. She had no kids and was maybe 25 years or a bit younger but already working 5 years. Good build with nice ass and smaller tits after the bra came off (probably be sized). Lots of makeup that was not as visible inside Billboard. We walked back to Billboard and she told me there will be a show very soon and she disappeared right afterwards and I did not see her again (would have bought her a drink). I would consider her with more light a 8 with her body and maybe a 6-7 face (couldn't see it that well with too much makeup).
I found a free seat right below the stage and the show started 5 minutes afterwards. Because of Chinese New Year they had a guy in Chinese clothing doing a pretty good magic show. It was around midnight by then and I decided to call it a night. I was not up for another round so Thermae was not in the cards anymore. I did have a quick look into Butterflies but felt the girls were not as good looking as Billboard. Took a walk back then to my hotel and called it a night.
In summary a good evening but would have been more fun with a smaller group or at least a wingman. The forum here helped a lot to pick the right bars and also I did get the questions where are you from, how long do you stay, is this your first time in Thailand etc. And answered with the suggestions I saw here. I also did look each time at the paper after they added a drink just to make a point that I check. I also stayed only slightly boozed up and paced my drinks very slow (only 3 beers with 1 at each place with 2 additional stronger cocktails before going out).
Not sure if and when there is a next time. I did prefer Nana compared to Soi Cowboy but also with more time would have liked to take a girl out from Thermae. Some of them were very attractive and looked more like girls that you could meet at regular places. Except for the age difference I would also not have felt bad bringing them back to the hotel.
I spent around 7000 for 5 hours of fun and enjoyed myself.
Thanks again to all posters here.
Nice report. Beings back good memories.
FWIW (and its going back a few years) the quality of the girls at Thermae was always a step above Nana / Cowboy. For me anyway.
Girls were just prettier. Looked more like pretty Uni girls / actresses / airline cabin crew. Than go go girls.
Probably because half of them were!
Hi All, just returned from a work trip to Phnom Penh, Bangkok and Singapore, for about a week each. Didn't do much in Singapore due to work commitments, but did have some time in the other spots. See the Phnom Penh forum for my post about that scene. As I mentioned there, this was my first time mongering in SE Asia (I had only been to Bangkok about 10 years ago with my wife and family, so no sampling the action), and I found it pretty easy and rewarding, actually. Maybe because I prepared by going back through these forums and kind of knew what to expect, so thanks to all the vets on here who have contributed through the months / years and really kept the board going.
Phnom Penh's all about bars and bargirls, so in Bangkok I wanted to focus on the other options: massage parlors and nuru-gel salons, plus Thermae and some of the freelance scene. Didn't have time to sample the online FIWFANS etc options, with everything else so easy to access.
Thermae: first night after a long (very long) walk around Soi 22,24, 24/7, 26 and 33 to check out the massage parlor scene, I headed through the K-Pop zombie street hookers to Thermae. Still pretty packed with women at around 1215 am on a Wednesday night, and a handful of guys braving the withering looks of some of the ice queens and Prada princesses there. (Seriously, some of the hotter women there also look like no fun even before they have your money, can't imagine what they'd be like afterwards). You could ignore that percentage of women, though (I'd prefer to be with someone who at least pretends to be interested in you), but what I liked about Thermae was the sheer variety of the JAV-inspired types on offer—sexy office ladies, club girls, hot MILFs, teen Lolitas, mall vixens, etc. Contrary to what some had noted on the board, as a Caucasian (late 40's, not out of shape but also not a muscle bro, decently dressed, not drunk, polite) I didn't find it too hard to make eye contact or get women to acknowledge me; the ones that didn't were also the ones who were ignoring every race, LOL.
I did two walk-arounds and then found a spot in the standing-counter area in the middle, where you can see the action and also be close enough to talk to some of the women on the other side. Got a few smiles and nods, but before I could act on them another woman took the initiative and sat down right next to me. She was rocking the 'office lady on the subway home' look, with a nice top that showed off some impressive breasts but also some "sensible jeans" and white sneakers instead of high heels. She was a bit more full-figured than many of the waifs on offer at Thermae, but had good curves, and unlike a lot of the ladies there with those huge man-made melons stapled onto stick bodies, she was offering some sizable all-natural DD's. She was also friendly and smiling, which was an improvement over half the women there. Even better, it was late, and she quoted me $2 k Baht for short time right off the bat. Can't argue with that, I thought, knowing it was usually twice as much there, so off we went to the hotel. (I was staying just 5 mins away, so easy to walk).
Will spare the details, but we had a good time. It wasn't her first time, that's for sure, but it was a good combo of being with someone who knew what they were doing with someone who was up for most things and wasn't a professional princess worried about getting her makeup smudged, so lots of DFK, no complaints about taking too long, etc. Afterwards I was ready to sleep but she settled into my bed and starting watching Thai news at full volume, adjusted the air-con for her own needs, getting a bit too comfy, really. That was a quick intro to the hazards of bringing girls over LT, LOL, but we had just agreed short time, after all, so after a bit she was out the door to get ready for her hairdresser job the next day. (Is every working girl at night in Asia a hairdresser in the daytime?) Total for about two hours: 2000 baht plus 200 tip, or 2200 total.
A few nights later, after some extremely memorable nights with a girl I hooked up with from a seedy nuru parlor (more on that later), I was back at Thermae, talking with a super chatty girl across the counter-table from me who had the 'girl next door with an active lifestyle' look down. Tan, cute bob cut, etc. Almost chose her but I couldn't figure out how tall she was since we were sitting down on opposite sides (I prefer them short and compact), but then I finally caught the eye of another woman who definitely had the Hot Executive Boss look down, straight out of JAV casting. She came over and wow, just my type body-wise, about 4 ft11, thin but also very nice natural breasts, plus big eyes and cute chin (with those probably store bought and medically installed). She quoted me $3 k for short time, but that seemed sensible (I'm used to paying $160 USD in Southern California for a Depressed Chinese Housewife Paying Off Someone Else's Gambling Debt vibe), and I wasn't going to make either of us lose face by arguing, so off we went. (Her high heels made that 5 min walk a bit longer, though). She was also friendly (and a VERY flexible spinner, haha), but definitely knew what she was doing, had a routine, etc. Still she allowed DFK, DATY, and more, and also wasn't a clock-watcher. She was out the door after about 90 mins, having to "rest to get to the temple in the morning," LOL, but that was fine.
All in all, both Thermae experiences gave me just what I needed: a chance to f**k two pretty hot Thai women without any hassle or worry or rush, for 2000 baht and 3000 baht. (Plus two hundred each tip). Both women were late 20's. I made sure not to push my luck with the (many) younger Thermae girls that look bored out of their skulls, or disdainful of the whole thing and of you in particular; a lot of the girls there are like that, but just as many aren't. I took my time, saw how they were interacting with others, and chose the ones that seemed friendly enough, and that seemed to enjoy talking with me first. No matter what, it was fun just to check out the scene there, and to see all the variety of women on offer. I would recommend anyone to just stop in and sample it, as I hadn't been anywhere like it before. All you need is to buy a drink first, but even a soft drink is about $1 USD.
Finally, a quick word about the freelancers. They are all still congregated on Sukhumvit Rd from Nana Plaza down to Soi Cowboy even (though it thins out a block or so after Thermae), and on the Soi going down from Nana Plaza. The popular look on the street is currently a 'Thai knock-off of a K-Pop zombie' vibe, all plastic noses, plastic chins, weird plastic blobs where their breasts once were, etc etc. Some are women, some are men, as usual. I wasn't attracted to too many but about one girl out of 7 will still have a face that looks more naturally made, and who's less than 40 years old. And evidently Thermae checks ID's to make sure that it's not just women that can get in, but Thai women, so a lot of the women on the street are the Vietnamese, Chinese, Cambodian, Filipina, etc girls that can't get into Thermae. And a surprising # of African girls along the Nana Plaza street.
As always on the street, you're also wading through a lot of 'Lads on Tour' groups of young, shouty drunk bros' looking for trouble, and plenty of dead-eyed over-70 dudes way too wired up on Viagra. Personally it's a bit of a vibe-killer for me, I'm here to find women, not wade through a bunch of dicks to do it, so in that way the currently super-quiet scene of Phnom Penh was more appealing. And no surprise to many, but it's not just the white guys looking for Thai action these days, but just as many (if not more) Chinese, Korean, and Japanese guys, and a big number of Indian and Arab men too. (I know that's not news to many of you, but it was surprising to me that the white punters were actually maybe in the minority).
I'll post on my massage / nuru adventures next. Apologies for long post, just wanted to share some snapshots of the Thermae scene, circa 2024 February.
[QUOTE=FilthyBeaver;2892204]Far be it from me to tell someone how to monger but why put yourself through this? Any decent sized soapy with a fishbowl and / or sideliners will never turn you down for anything unless your kink is off the charts.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2892234]Because it's fun to people watch besides anything else. [/QUOTE]Like Nyezhov says it's the entertainment value of Thermae. It's also why I'm a gogo bar guy. I like to people watch and watching incompetent men oddly puts a smile on my face. I'm a point and shoot guy too but I also like a bit of a challenge more often than not. Sure anyone can go to a soapy and get a sure thing from a girl who isn't allowed to say no. For me it's a challenge to get the top girl at Thermae or the top girl at a top gogo bar.
I only had 2 free nights in BKK before coming to Pattaya. I spent every second of it in Thermae or with a Thermae girl other than eating and sleeping.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2893255]Like Nyezhov says it's the entertainment value of Thermae. It's also why I'm a gogo bar guy. I like to people watch and watching incompetent men oddly puts a smile on my face. I'm a point and shoot guy too but I also like a bit of a challenge more often than not. Sure anyone can go to a soapy and get a sure thing from a girl who isn't allowed to say no. For me it's a challenge to get the top girl at Thermae or the top girl at a top gogo bar.
I only had 2 free nights in BKK before coming to Pattaya. I spent every second of it in Thermae or with a Thermae girl other than eating and sleeping.[/QUOTE]Banana Boi, when you or anyone else has the time, I would love to know the names of the soapies where I would get a sure thing from a girl who isn't allowed to say no.
I have yet to partake of any P4 P venue in Thailand where every girl isn't perfectly capable of saying no. Thermae ranking among the most reliable of such venues and responses.
Thanks in advance.
Hehe.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2892779]Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.
All in favor of self review say aye.[/QUOTE]I understand it could seem like that, but I just had my world rocked so what can I say? I already tried to make it look real by mentioning that I was there for a conference you can google / verify. Lastly, are we really going to debate her trackrecord? There are literally countless positive / rave reviews about her. Why would she all of a sudden start reviewing herself?
[QUOTE=CDawg3141;2892273]Does anyone know if Barbar in Patpong is closed? I've seen some reports that it was struggling.
I went to Thailand for a month right as COVID was ramping up and had a fun time (I'm into that freaky shit). I saw Eden and Devils Den are gone RIP.
I'm headed back there for a rematch in March. Anywhere else I should short list to checkout? All I found was Demonia and some indie mistresses.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]Went back 50 pages and RTFF. I'm not even sure if that's where I found it, but it's called Octopus Fetish Club and it's open for business.
[QUOTE=Poseidon16;2891700]I will be travelling to Bangkok as a part of my month long trip. How should I crack the scene as a newbie. Kind seniors please post links to legendary posts from this forum, which might help a newbie out. My membership just expired this week and I am in the process of renewing it.
TIA.[/QUOTE]Massage Parlor (MP) is 100% the easiest way in, simple, no frills, go in, choose a girl, do your thing and there ya go. In and out in no time. You can look at any number of posts for lots of massage parlor depending on what you want, or just go to some of the streets with a bunch and choose one and have at it. Select at least 1. 5 hours or 2 hours. This will guarantee at least 2 shots and make it a much chiller, easier experience. Don't bother with a soapy, escort, thai friendly, fiwfans or any of that crap for your first few times. Do what like 95% of people do, walk into a massage parlor that offers this service, and enjoy.
[QUOTE=WintersLight;2893186] Thermae: First night after a walk I headed through the K-Pop zombie street hookers to Thermae. * * * Apologies for long post, just wanted to share some snapshots of the Thermae scene, circa 2024 February.[/QUOTE]What a great report! Thanks much to Mr. Light for taking the time to write it up.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2893276]Banana Boi, when you or anyone else has the time, I would love to know the names of the soapies where I would get a sure thing from a girl who isn't allowed to say no.[/QUOTE]Wrong city but in Pattaya. Ok yes the girls are allowed to say no but if they say no then they owe the soapie the entire amount the soapie lost because the girl didn't go with a customer. I don't know the breakdown of how much a soapie gets but I'm guessing the girl has to give the soapie at least 1000 baht for every no. That's why you will see soapies loaded with guys who can't get decent looking girls elsewhere.
As for BBFSCIP like you want. We both know that ain't happening in a soapie unless the girl truly likes you or if you have deep pockets.
[QUOTE=TheMedian;2893307]I understand it could seem like that, but I just had my world rocked so what can I say? I already tried to make it look real by mentioning that I was there for a conference you can google / verify. Lastly, are we really going to debate her trackrecord? There are literally countless positive / rave reviews about her. Why would she all of a sudden start reviewing herself?[/QUOTE]Becasue that's what prostitutes do.
Hi,
Anyone knows where to purchase disposable sheet for massage in Bangkok?
I was thinking of using my own sheet when I go to massage parlors. That way I won't need to think about cleanliness there. Any input will be much appreciated.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2893444]Wrong city but in Pattaya. Ok yes the girls are allowed to say no but if they say no then they owe the soapie the entire amount the soapie lost because the girl didn't go with a customer. I don't know the breakdown of how much a soapie gets but I'm guessing the girl has to give the soapie at least 1000 baht for every no. That's why you will see soapies loaded with guys who can't get decent looking girls elsewhere.
As for BBFSCIP like you want. We both know that ain't happening in a soapie unless the girl truly likes you or if you have deep pockets.[/QUOTE]Ah, yes, well I understand most soapy or massage ladies can't say no without penalty in terms of accepting a customer in the same way staff in a barber shop or nail salon can't.
So I can see there is zero challenge in getting a girl in a soapy to agree to spend time in a room with anyone who walks through the door.
But that is where the zero challenge Big Win for the customer ends. A girl who doesn't want to do anything remotely sexual at that point can say no and will say no without hesitation if she just doesn't feel like doing it. Even if she thinks she must say yes to a HJ, she can and certainly will give a bad one until the guy calls it off.
Yes, imo a "challenge" regarding P4 P is not at all about getting a girl, any girl, to agree to walk out of a bar with you or to spend time alone in a room with you. I consider that to be one of the least challenging accomplishments of all in a Thai P4 P venue, even if it is among the top 5% best lookers in the place. If a winning smile, charm, humor, a hansum body and face and an agreement to pay the going rate doesn't do it, try 40 shots of tequila and an offer to pay double the going rate. LOL.
Imo, the only real challenge in a Thai P4 P situation is about what an above average or better looking girl will do for you sexually when you are alone with her.
For example, I would say it is a much bigger challenge to get DFK, BBBJ and BBFS+CIP on a first session with a merely above average looking girl working in a soapy than to get (maybe and if so, briefly) DFK but definitely Covered BJ and Covered FS on a first session with the hottest girl that ever stepped foot into Thermae.
[QUOTE=IrishMongrel;2892271]This is more to the oldies in the group, of which I am one.
Main question is. Is Pattaya actually worth the visit for a couple of days? [/QUOTE]My first time in Thailand was in 1970 at age 28, so I presume I'm one of the "oldies".
Those who have "voted" in favor of BKK over Pattaya noted very, very valid reasons. I've only spent time in Pats maybe 5 times over the years and always returned to BKK after a couple of nights, always returning 2-3 nights earlier than planned. Pattaya offers the same as BKK in terms of options, but slightly less expensive. (Except for the ocean.) More attractive women in BKK. Think of Pattaya as featuring "junior varsity" talent.
Sam.
Was walking back from a great session at DokiDoki (Very attractive and sweet spinner named Bowvy) and was hungry, saw Buddy's Bar & Grill across the main Sukhumvit near the entrance to Soi 22. Ordered the Buddy's Breakfast, 2 eggs over easy, fried potatoes, 2 strips of bacon, 2 sausage links and a slice of ham. One of the best breakfasts I've ever had (ok, I've had a lot of awesome breakfasts). 250 Baht, I'll be back to try their Mexican food. They play old time country classics.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2893491]Ah, yes, well I understand most soapy or massage ladies can't say no without penalty in terms of accepting a customer in the same way staff in a barber shop or nail salon can't.
So I can see there is zero challenge in getting a girl in a soapy to agree to spend time in a room with anyone who walks through the door.
But that is where the zero challenge Big Win for the customer ends. A girl who doesn't want to do anything remotely sexual at that point can say no and will say no without hesitation if she just doesn't feel like doing it. Even if she thinks she must say yes to a HJ, she can and certainly will give a bad one until the guy calls it off.
Yes, imo a "challenge" regarding P4 P is not at all about getting a girl, any girl, to agree to walk out of a bar with you or to spend time alone in a room with you. I consider that to be one of the least challenging accomplishments of all in a Thai P4 P venue, even if it is among the top 5% best lookers in the place. If a winning smile, charm, humor, a hansum body and face and an agreement to pay the going rate doesn't do it, try 40 shots of tequila and an offer to pay double the going rate. LOL.
Imo, the only real challenge in a Thai P4 P situation is about what an above average or better looking girl will do for you sexually when you are alone with her.[/QUOTE]Hail to Human Kind.
I'm not the only one who thinks 40 drinks guy is Silly Boy. LOL. Hahaha.
His 6 month self ban must be soon ending. He said it was his 2nd best ever so if I'm thinking straight he must go back.
Is Rainbow 5 back to any resemblance of being a 2nd tier joint. During New Years Holiday s it was so bad I couldn't even go in.
[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2893640]Hail to Human Kind.
I'm not the only one who thinks 40 drinks guy is Silly Boy. LOL. Hahaha.
His 6 month self ban must be soon ending. He said it was his 2nd best ever so if I'm thinking straight he must go back.
Is Rainbow 5 back to any resemblance of being a 2nd tier joint. During New Years Holiday s it was so bad I couldn't even go in.[/QUOTE]I was not referring exactly to your favorite 40 drinks story fellow. And I believe his purpose in sweetening the deal with multiple drinks and / or higher than normal fee offers was not merely to secure an agreement to leave the bar with him, as was my point, but to better secure a deal for DFK, BBBJ and BBFS+CIP with an above average or better looking P4 P girl. Which is an approach I generally approve of and don't see as silly at all, considering that is imo about the only "challenge" in the Thai P4 P world.
Well, one could replace that last part, BBFS+CIP, with BBBJ+CIM+Swallow or Anal or Bareback Anal+Cum Inside with an above average or better looking girl among the only real challenges in the Thai P4 P world, I suppose, depending on the punter's preference at the time.
An above average or better looking Thai P4 P girl anywhere in any venue or freelancing can and will say No to any and all of those Real Sex services regardless how much money is offered, how charming, funny and hansum you are, how supposedly desperate she is for the money. She will agree to it only if she feels like it. And that is where a challenge comes into the picture.
But practically everything else is only a matter of sweetening the deal with more money, if necessary at all, and there is nothing "challenging" about that imo.
Getting everything you want with a below average looking Thai P4 P girl for bargain basement prices or sometimes no money at all? No real challenge imo.
Getting the hottest girl in the room to leave with you and very likely delivering nothing in the room from that list of services I cited above? No real challenge imo.
And almost everything else between those two extremes can be arranged by anyone as long as you sweeten the deal with more money, not really a challenge imo.
As for Rainbow 5, I have not been in there for several months, since I did in fact get one of the better lookers at the time to agree upfront to DFK, BBBJ and BBFS+CIP for, as I recall, paying the barfine, whatever it was at the time, and agreeing to give her 3,000 baht. That last part to be paid to her after the Real Sex was finished, of course.
But I did not repeat. Turned out she was a bit too roomy down there for me to feel as snug a fit as I prefer.
Fill in your loose vs snug size retorts and jokes about that, gents. I can take it. LOL.
[QUOTE=BackInBangkok;2893603]Was walking back from a great session at DokiDoki (Very attractive and sweet spinner named Bowvy) and was hungry, saw Buddy's Bar & Grill across the main Sukhumvit near the entrance to Soi 22. Ordered the Buddy's Breakfast, 2 eggs over easy, fried potatoes, 2 strips of bacon, 2 sausage links and a slice of ham. One of the best breakfasts I've ever had (ok, I've had a lot of awesome breakfasts). 250 Baht, I'll be back to try their Mexican food. They play old time country classics.[/QUOTE]At least ya got some volume for your $8, or $9-10 if you leave a decent tip. I hope you got toast otherwise you got ripped off.
[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2893640]Hail to Human Kind.
I'm not the only one who thinks 40 drinks guy is Silly Boy. LOL. Hahaha.
His 6 month self ban must be soon ending. He said it was his 2nd best ever so if I'm thinking straight he must go back.
Is Rainbow 5 back to any resemblance of being a 2nd tier joint. During New Years Holiday s it was so bad I couldn't even go in.[/QUOTE]Rainbow 4, and 5, have been notoriously inconsistent over the past year.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2893691]Fill in your loose vs snug size retorts and jokes about that, gents. I can take it. LOL.[/QUOTE]Dude I never knew. You going to be in town next week? I need someone to drill my pilot holes.
[QUOTE=BackInBangkok;2893603][b]24 hour breakfast[/b]
Was walking back from a great session at DokiDoki (Very attractive and sweet spinner named Bowvy) and was hungry, saw Buddy's Bar & Grill across the main Sukhumvit near the entrance to Soi 22. Ordered the Buddy's Breakfast, 2 eggs over easy, fried potatoes, 2 strips of bacon, 2 sausage links and a slice of ham. One of the best breakfasts I've ever had (ok, I've had a lot of awesome breakfasts). 250 Baht, I'll be back to try their Mexican food. They play old time country classics.[/QUOTE]Just a note that if you install the free eatigo app on your phone and book a reservation at Buddy's through that app even as close as 20-25 minutes before your intended arrival time you will get a discount of as much as 30-40% on all the food on your bill. And during fairly normal breakfast and dinner times.
BTW, I am not sure any of the several Buddy's Bar and Grill locations being open 24 hours.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2893708]Dude I never knew. You going to be in town next week? I need someone to drill my pilot holes.[/QUOTE]LOL. Good one!
I opened up FiwFans using google chrome and put it into English translation mode. I chose a few girls in Sukhumvit, where I will be staying later this month and fund some odd translations. Maybe someone could translate the translations for me! Most of the translation was straight forward. "Cum on breasts, Cum on body for free. " is easy to understand. So is "No back door".
But, some items, even went translated, were a mystery to me. Here are some examples /.
Things that the girl does:
Receive 1-2 pearls + 100 each.
Can lick eggs.
Perverse, can do whatever you want. (does this mean BBFSCIP or anything similarly restricted by most of the girls?
PROHIBITIONS.
I don't want it fresh.
Do not accept lip or face breakage.
Not raw, not fresh, not accepting any kind of fake food. (I understand not raw, but what is not fresh or fake food?
Not fresh / not fresh.
Or:
The prohibition is.
Do not accept too large sites.
Not accepting people to do it.
[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2893840]I opened up FiwFans using google chrome and put it into English translation mode. I chose a few girls in Sukhumvit, where I will be staying later this month and fund some odd translations. Maybe someone could translate the translations for me! Most of the translation was straight forward. "Cum on breasts, Cum on body for free. " is easy to understand. So is "No back door".
But, some items, even went translated, were a mystery to me. Here are some examples /.
Things that the girl does:
Receive 1-2 pearls + 100 each.
Can lick eggs.
Perverse, can do whatever you want. (does this mean BBFSCIP or anything similarly restricted by most of the girls?
PROHIBITIONS.
I don't want it fresh.
Do not accept lip or face breakage.
Not raw, not fresh, not accepting any kind of fake food. (I understand not raw, but what is not fresh or fake food?
Not fresh / not fresh.
Or:
The prohibition is.
Do not accept too large sites.
Not accepting people to do it.[/QUOTE]Lick eggs = DATY.
Accept lip or face break = figure its CIM and COF.
Not fresh = don't allow bareback.
[QUOTE=Lcale1982;2893852]Lick eggs = DATY.[/QUOTE]I always assumed this was licking your balls.
You learn something new every day.
This is what I read on ****** site.
Crack / Break the face = COF.
Crack / Break the mouth or split the lips = CIM.
Crack / Break the Body = COB.
Remove the milk groove or break the breasts = titfuck.
Blowjob fresh = BBBJ.
Lick jimi, lick sister = DATY.
Water = shot.
Not fresh = need to use condom.
Not bottomless = no anal.
Sandwich = Threesome (mainly ffm, but also MMF).
Swing job = Threesome (MMF).
Size = condom size.
No injections, no pearls, no mo = no modified penis.
Snacks / pay for snacks = Take care of business / donation.
Jimi = pussy.
Jimi Kaolao / Gaolao = Shaved pussy / hairless pussy.
Lia Jimi = lick pussy / DATY.
Burn / bern = DATY.
Paint = DATY.
Live / Fresh = Raw / no condom.
Tongue exchange = french kiss.
Backdoor = ass / anal.
Bag = condom.
Milk made = got a boob job.
[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2893840]I opened up FiwFans using google chrome and put it into English translation mode. I chose a few girls in Sukhumvit, where I will be staying later this month and fund some odd translations. Maybe someone could translate the translations for me! Most of the translation was straight forward. "Cum on breasts, Cum on body for free. " is easy to understand. So is "No back door".
But, some items, even went translated, were a mystery to me. Here are some examples /.
Things that the girl does:
Receive 1-2 pearls + 100 each.
Can lick eggs.
Perverse, can do whatever you want. (does this mean BBFSCIP or anything similarly restricted by most of the girls?
PROHIBITIONS.
I don't want it fresh.
Do not accept lip or face breakage.
Not raw, not fresh, not accepting any kind of fake food. (I understand not raw, but what is not fresh or fake food?
Not fresh / not fresh.
Or:
The prohibition is.
Do not accept too large sites.
Not accepting people to do it.[/QUOTE]
Wonder how many of these advertised acts FIWFANS girls actually do!
[QUOTE=Pk099;2893872]This is what I read on ****** site.
Crack / Break the face = COF.
Crack / Break the mouth or split the lips = CIM.
Crack / Break the Body = COB.
Remove the milk groove or break the breasts = titfuck.
Blowjob fresh = BBBJ.
Lick jimi, lick sister = DATY.
Water = shot.
Not fresh = need to use condom.
Not bottomless = no anal.
Sandwich = Threesome (mainly ffm, but also MMF).
Swing job = Threesome (MMF).
Size = condom size.
No injections, no pearls, no mo = no modified penis.
Snacks / pay for snacks = Take care of business / donation.
Jimi = pussy.
Jimi Kaolao / Gaolao = Shaved pussy / hairless pussy.
Lia Jimi = lick pussy / DATY.
Burn / bern = DATY.
Paint = DATY.
Live / Fresh = Raw / no condom.
Tongue exchange = french kiss.
Backdoor = ass / anal.
Bag = condom.
Milk made = got a boob job.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pk099;2893872]This is what I read on ****** site.
Crack / Break the face = COF.
Crack / Break the mouth or split the lips = CIM.
Crack / Break the Body = COB.
Remove the milk groove or break the breasts = titfuck.
Blowjob fresh = BBBJ.
Lick jimi, lick sister = DATY.
Water = shot.
Not fresh = need to use condom.
Not bottomless = no anal.
Sandwich = Threesome (mainly ffm, but also MMF).
Swing job = Threesome (MMF).
Size = condom size.
No injections, no pearls, no mo = no modified penis.
Snacks / pay for snacks = Take care of business / donation.
Jimi = pussy.
Jimi Kaolao / Gaolao = Shaved pussy / hairless pussy.
Lia Jimi = lick pussy / DATY.
Burn / bern = DATY.
Paint = DATY.
Live / Fresh = Raw / no condom.
Tongue exchange = french kiss.
Backdoor = ass / anal.
Bag = condom.
Milk made = got a boob job.[/QUOTE]This is useful. Thanks.
I checked out a lot of profiles. The girls are relatively inexpensive, but the language barrier is daunting. A lot of the girls say they are at Sukhumvit 55. I googled that, and failed to find this location. I found a hotel called "Grande Centre Point Sukhumvit 55" and I also read that Sukhumvit 55 is the same as Soi Thong Lo, a popular tourist street with boutiques, backpacker bars, etc. Any one have experience with Sukhumvit 55? Does this simply mean they are on Soi Thong Lo?
[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2894040]This is useful. Thanks.
I checked out a lot of profiles. The girls are relatively inexpensive, but the language barrier is daunting. A lot of the girls say they are at Sukhumvit 55. I googled that, and failed to find this location. I found a hotel called "Grande Centre Point Sukhumvit 55" and I also read that Sukhumvit 55 is the same as Soi Thong Lo, a popular tourist street with boutiques, backpacker bars, etc. Any one have experience with Sukhumvit 55? Does this simply mean they are on Soi Thong Lo?[/QUOTE]The girls will be in the area of tong lo, closer out towards petchaburi. There are no backpacker bars in the tong lor area.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2893691]I was not referring exactly to your favorite 40 drinks story fellow. And I believe his purpose in sweetening the deal with multiple drinks and / or higher than normal fee offers was not merely to secure an agreement to leave the bar with him, as was my point, but to better secure a deal for DFK, BBBJ and BBFS+CIP with an above average or better looking P4 P girl. Which is an approach I generally approve of and don't see as silly at all, considering that is imo about the only "challenge" in the Thai P4 P world.
Well, one could replace that last part, BBFS+CIP, with BBBJ+CIM+Swallow or Anal or Bareback Anal+Cum Inside with an above average or better looking girl among the only real challenges in the Thai P4 P world, I suppose, depending on the punter's preference at the time.
An above average or better looking Thai P4 P girl anywhere in any venue or freelancing can and will say No to any and all of those Real Sex services regardless how much money is offered, how charming, funny and hansum you are, how supposedly desperate she is for the money. She will agree to it only if she feels like it. And that is where a challenge comes into the picture.
But practically everything else is only a matter of sweetening the deal with more money, if necessary at all, and there is nothing "challenging" about that imo.
Getting everything you want with a below average looking Thai P4 P girl for bargain basement prices or sometimes no money at all? No real challenge imo.
Getting the hottest girl in the room to leave with you and very likely delivering nothing in the room from that list of services I cited above? No real challenge imo.
And almost everything else between those two extremes can be arranged by anyone as long as you sweeten the deal with more money, not really a challenge imo.
As for Rainbow 5, I have not been in there for several months, since I did in fact get one of the better lookers at the time to agree upfront to DFK, BBBJ and BBFS+CIP for, as I recall, paying the barfine, whatever it was at the time, and agreeing to give her 3,000 baht. That last part to be paid to her after the Real Sex was finished, of course.
But I did not repeat. Turned out she was a bit too roomy down there for me to feel as snug a fit as I prefer.
Fill in your loose vs snug size retorts and jokes about that, gents. I can take it. LOL.[/QUOTE]There's another guy buying Random Bargirls 40 drinks. LOL. Hahaha.
TSGline girls list their locations Sukhumvit 55, Thong Lor. They likely work in Kokotel Thonglor, a 3-star hotel with families staying long term like many other hotels.
[URL]https://www.kokotel.com/bangkok-dheva-thonglor/[/URL]
I bagged Nong Nicha and Moog in this hotel. I could take Grab cars, Grab bikes or MRT to Thonglo, but last time Grab car took 2 hours from Sukhumbit soi 4 through heavy traffic. This time walked North on Soi 3 about 10 minutes to the canal boat pier, waited 5 minutes for the long boat, cruised West, stopped at a few piers and got off at Thonglor. From there walked West around 2 blocks to the hotel, total about half hour. It's a nice, clean, quiet hotel with a back yard fronting the bike path along the canal. Would be a much shorter walk on the bike path from Thonglor pier to the hotel's back gate, but the gate was locked.
Had beautiful, sensuous sessions with Nong Nicha and Moog in this hotel.
I am being quoted an amazing range of prices from girls on TF. For example, today one freelancer said 2500 B for ST, and another messaged me and asked for 10000 B just a few minutes later. One girl said 7000 B if I cum on her chest, 10000 if I cum inside of her (I never even inquired about BB!
I hate to ask about pricing, as that almost always results in RTFF responses, but I am curious if these types of wild swings in price are being seen by everyone who uses TF. I was last in BKK in May 2023, and these prices are substantially higher than I was paying back then. On the other hand, the BJ bars and soapies I have checked out are about the same price as last year. Its quite curious.
This is one of the reasons I am interested in FiwFans. I hate negotiating on prices.
[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2894111]I am being quoted an amazing range of prices from girls on TF. For example, today one freelancer said 2500 B for ST, and another messaged me and asked for 10000 B just a few minutes later. One girl said 7000 B if I cum on her chest, 10000 if I cum inside of her (I never even inquired about BB!
I hate to ask about pricing, as that almost always results in RTFF responses, but I am curious if these types of wild swings in price are being seen by everyone who uses TF. I was last in BKK in May 2023, and these prices are substantially higher than I was paying back then. On the other hand, the BJ bars and soapies I have checked out are about the same price as last year. Its quite curious.
This is one of the reasons I am interested in FiwFans. I hate negotiating on prices.[/QUOTE]It should be just 1500-2000st.
[QUOTE=NRandom940;2894144]It should be just 1500-2000st.[/QUOTE]Not a single woman has quoted me anything less than 2500. Almost everyone is more than 3000.
I am afraid I could never navigate the alternative route. Two hours commute isn't worth the bother.
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2894098]TSGline girls list their locations Sukhumvit 55, Thong Lor. They likely work in Kokotel Thonglor, a 3-star hotel with families staying long term like many other hotels.
[URL]https://www.kokotel.com/bangkok-dheva-thonglor/[/URL]
I bagged Nong Nicha and Moog in this hotel. I could take Grab cars, Grab bikes or MRT to Thonglo, but last time Grab car took 2 hours from Sukhumbit soi 4 through heavy traffic. This time walked North on Soi 3 about 10 minutes to the canal boat pier, waited 5 minutes for the long boat, cruised West, stopped at a few piers and got off at Thonglor. From there walked West around 2 blocks to the hotel, total about half hour. It's a nice, clean, quiet hotel with a back yard fronting the bike path along the canal. Would be a much shorter walk on the bike path from Thonglor pier to the hotel's back gate, but the gate was locked.
Had beautiful, sensuous sessions with Nong Nicha and Moog in this hotel.[/QUOTE]
That was about 6 PM in the middle of commuter traffic. He went South to the old Khlong Toei Port to avoid traffic on Sukhumvit, but there were lots of truck, cars, bikes traffic and major streets through that run-down area.
I encourage you to take the long canal boat. You can cruise from old town and Khao San back packer district all the way East near BKK, stopping at many major landmarks, for 20 bahts, quick, cool, smooth, relaxing at the same time meet people going to work and school on these boats. Maps can steer you step by step.
If you don't want to walk, just take quick Grab bike rides to any pier along the canal, 30-50 bahts.
Take MRT to Petchaburi. Every motorcycle taxi on the corner knows kokohotel. Took me 15 min at rush hour. That said TSGsidelume is a total scam. Girls look nothing like their photos and they are a bait and switch operation. The only way to be sure of what you're getting is well documented. Pics on the internet is not one of them.
[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2894154]I am afraid I could never navigate the alternative route. Two hours commute isn't worth the bother.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2894154]I am afraid I could never navigate the alternative route. Two hours commute isn't worth the bother.[/QUOTE]Yikes, I come from cowboy but on a bike and its like 10-15 minutes. Guess car does add more time w / the traffic but that sounds brutal.
Nice report. Small and useful.
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2894098]TSGline girls list their locations Sukhumvit 55, Thong Lor. They likely work in Kokotel Thonglor, a 3-star hotel with families staying long term like many other hotels.
[URL]https://www.kokotel.com/bangkok-dheva-thonglor/[/URL]
I bagged Nong Nicha and Moog in this hotel. I could take Grab cars, Grab bikes or MRT to Thonglo, but last time Grab car took 2 hours from Sukhumbit soi 4 through heavy traffic. This time walked North on Soi 3 about 10 minutes to the canal boat pier, waited 5 minutes for the long boat, cruised West, stopped at a few piers and got off at Thonglor. From there walked West around 2 blocks to the hotel, total about half hour. It's a nice, clean, quiet hotel with a back yard fronting the bike path along the canal. Would be a much shorter walk on the bike path from Thonglor pier to the hotel's back gate, but the gate was locked.
Had beautiful, sensuous sessions with Nong Nicha and Moog in this hotel.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2894154]I am afraid I could never navigate the alternative route. Two hours commute isn't worth the bother.[/QUOTE]Just take the BTS skytrain and get out at Thong Lo station. From there, walk or take a taxi motorbike and you'll arrive there quickly.
[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2894111]I am being quoted an amazing range of prices from girls on TF. For example, today one freelancer said 2500 B for ST, and another messaged me and asked for 10000 B just a few minutes later. One girl said 7000 B if I cum on her chest, 10000 if I cum inside of her (I never even inquired about BB!
I hate to ask about pricing, as that almost always results in RTFF responses, but I am curious if these types of wild swings in price are being seen by everyone who uses TF. I was last in BKK in May 2023, and these prices are substantially higher than I was paying back then. On the other hand, the BJ bars and soapies I have checked out are about the same price as last year. Its quite curious.
This is one of the reasons I am interested in FiwFans. I hate negotiating on prices.[/QUOTE]I used TF quite a lot in December.
Never saw anyone in BKK asking for 1500, but plenty in the 2000 - 3000 range. There are also lots asking around 5 k, but you can just ignore them unless they are real stunners and offer comprehensive services. One problem with TF is that the girls often agree to additional services via Line, but then change their minds when they arrive. I ended up confirming a basic price for basic services, and then a little menu of what I would pay for extras.
Always pay after the event. If they want paying up front look elsewhere.
Online sounds Horrible. Never did never will.
Nana School Girl could market herself as Goddess online. I've seen worse. LOL. Hahaha.
[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2894395]Online sounds Horrible. Never did never will.
Nana School Girl could market herself as Goddess online. I've seen worse. LOL. Hahaha.[/QUOTE]I look forward to seeing her, makes the area all homey and such, like warm eggnog with nutmeg at Christmas.
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2894278]I used TF quite a lot in December.
Never saw anyone in BKK asking for 1500, but plenty in the 2000 - 3000 range. There are also lots asking around 5 k, but you can just ignore them unless they are real stunners and offer comprehensive services. One problem with TF is that the girls often agree to additional services via Line, but then change their minds when they arrive. I ended up confirming a basic price for basic services, and then a little menu of what I would pay for extras.
Always pay after the event. If they want paying up front look elsewhere.[/QUOTE]Hey,
Can you tell how does TF work actually. I'm in BKK right now, I show interest in girls there, but never get any response back.
So am I supposed to ask everyone if they are freelancer? XD what if they aren't, wouldn't it be rude to them lmao.
Would appreciate if you can share some insight on how to get girls from there, open for ST or even LT if girl is pretty and young. (I myself am young, 26, so I like girls younger than me, which seems to be hard to get if I just look at street freelancers most of the time).
[QUOTE=TiredOf;2894496]Hey,
Can you tell how does TF work actually. I'm in BKK right now, I show interest in girls there, but never get any response back.
So am I supposed to ask everyone if they are freelancer? XD what if they aren't, wouldn't it be rude to them lmao.
Would appreciate if you can share some insight on how to get girls from there, open for ST or even LT if girl is pretty and young. (I myself am young, 26, so I like girls younger than me, which seems to be hard to get if I just look at street freelancers most of the time).[/QUOTE]Hold 10,000 baht in your picture.
[QUOTE=TiredOf;2894496]Hey,
Can you tell how does TF work actually. I'm in BKK right now, I show interest in girls there, but never get any response back.
So am I supposed to ask everyone if they are freelancer? XD what if they aren't, wouldn't it be rude to them lmao.
Would appreciate if you can share some insight on how to get girls from there, open for ST or even LT if girl is pretty and young. (I myself am young, 26, so I like girls younger than me, which seems to be hard to get if I just look at street freelancers most of the time).[/QUOTE]'I myself am young, 26, so I like girls younger than me' - I'm 67 and feel the same.
Sending interest on TF probably won't get you far. So there are several options:
1) set up a standard account with photo and wait for girls to express interest in you (beware to be inundated with grannies).
2) if you are lucky a girl you fancy will give her Line or instagram ID on her TF page, and you can contact them that way.
3) splash out $25 on a premium TF membership and then you can send messages to the girls.
If a girl says she is looking for a long term relationship then ignore her, all others are fair game. If they're not interested they will just ignore you. If you get a reply then bingo.
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2894782]'I myself am young, 26, so I like girls younger than me' - I'm 67 and feel the same.
Sending interest on TF probably won't get you far. So there are several options:
1) set up a standard account with photo and wait for girls to express interest in you (beware to be inundated with grannies).
2) if you are lucky a girl you fancy will give her Line or instagram ID on her TF page, and you can contact them that way.
3) splash out $25 on a premium TF membership and then you can send messages to the girls.
If a girl says she is looking for a long term relationship then ignore her, all others are fair game. If they're not interested they will just ignore you. If you get a reply then bingo.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info, so I guess what I lack is the photo maybe, because I didn't upload any, and TBH, I don't want to upload either. Privacy is more important to me.
Still there is one more part which isn't clear, so the freelancers which are there, they just send request themselves? Or you guys just show interest on everyone or message everyone, and then decide after getting reply?
Tbh, just messaging everyone by own, doesn't seem like my style.
On the side note, those girls with 'serious relationship' propaganda, are they just scammers or genuine? Or probably a mix of both.
Although generally speaking, being an Indian I do prefer Asian girls over blondes anyways, and Thais are much better than Indians (just my personal preference). So if a girl is well educated, probably I won't mind for serious relationship either, if our vibes matched.
Although thing which frighten me most is, "Past" of such girls. I can never know if that girl used to be freelancer before or not, or is too currently occasionally, overused or something like that. Idk about how you guys feel about this, but I certainly wouldn't want my GF (or wife in future if matter escalated to there) to be have been already overused by 1000's of others. If you know what I mean.
Can call it Indian mentality maybe, its widely common here and somehow this also has effect on me.
" Indian men will always want to do sex or have multiple partners before marriage, but while marrying they prefer only Virgins ".
Might look weird to others, but if other Indians are here they can relate. (From Bihar here).
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2894782]'I myself am young, 26, so I like girls younger than me' - I'm 67 and feel the same.
Sending interest on TF probably won't get you far. So there are several options:
1) set up a standard account with photo and wait for girls to express interest in you (beware to be inundated with grannies).
2) if you are lucky a girl you fancy will give her Line or instagram ID on her TF page, and you can contact them that way.
3) splash out $25 on a premium TF membership and then you can send messages to the girls.
If a girl says she is looking for a long term relationship then ignore her, all others are fair game. If they're not interested they will just ignore you. If you get a reply then bingo.[/QUOTE]I'm also late 60's, and had excellent results with TF. Agree with all of the above suggestions, but skip #1. If you get the premium membership, you can send as many messages as you want. Non-premium can only send a message every 10 minutes (as I recall). Even though in my profile I clearly stated that I was NOT looking for a long-term relationship and was dating in Chiang Mai only, I was inundated by interest and messages from ladies interested in long-term and from places far from Chiang Mai. It was easy to find ladies I liked, then move the conversation to Line. Once the conversation is on Line, it is easier to talk freely. I remember the first lady I liked who I thought was too young and attractive to be interested in me, but she replied, we moved the conversation to Line, she said, "I offer massage, blowjob, and sex for 2500. " That was a GOOD time! I ended up seeing her a few times over the 2 months I was in Chiang Mai. And I saw others. A nice diversion from seeing ladies in the massage parlors. Between the massage shops and the ladies I have come to know over my 11 winters in Chiang Mai, and the new ladies I met from TF, I was getting massage / pussy every night. Cannot wait to return in November.
One more thing about Thai Friendly. Searching. I was using ThaiFriendly on a browser on a Windows computer or with the Chrome browser on an Android tablet. TF works differently if you use the app, and if you use a browser other than Chrome on Android. Searching: You can search profiles for a keyword, like massage or freelance (most of the ladies on Tf that say they do massage are freelancers and do massage plus extras). Unfortunately, the search does not honor your location, so the results will be from all over Thailand. Since the city they have in their profile is listed, it is easy to find a lady in your city.
Then the first big flaw: after searching for say massage, you will get a page of photos and at the bottom you can click on 2, 3, 4, etc. To see more pages. But those buttons do not work properly. They take you out of the "search" results and back to your basic list.
The second big flaw is that some keywords are blocked by ThaiFriendly. But not always. Words like "massage" and "freelance" are mostly blocked in profiles. So, I search for "massage" and click on a picture I like, read over the profile, and do not see the word "massage" anywhere in the profile. She might have had the phrase "I do not massage and am not a freelancer. " in her profile, but it is blocked. So on occasion, I have searched, contacted the lady, and got a slightly annoyed response.
TF is fun. As I said, I was getting massage & pussy every night in Chiang Mai. The number of hot ladies on TF in Bangkok, Pattaya, and Phuket is likely more than Chiang Mai, so have fun!
[QUOTE=BeachDrone;2894836]I'm also late 60's, and had excellent results with TF. Agree with all of the above suggestions, but skip #1. If you get the premium membership, you can send as many messages as you want. Non-premium can only send a message every 10 minutes (as I recall). Even though in my profile I clearly stated that I was NOT looking for a long-term relationship and was dating in Chiang Mai only, I was inundated by interest and messages from ladies interested in long-term and from places far from Chiang Mai. It was easy to find ladies I liked, then move the conversation to Line. Once the conversation is on Line, it is easier to talk freely. I remember the first lady I liked who I thought was too young and attractive to be interested in me, but she replied, we moved the conversation to Line, she said, "I offer massage, blowjob, and sex for 2500. " That was a GOOD time! I ended up seeing her a few times over the 2 months I was in Chiang Mai. And I saw others. A nice diversion from seeing ladies in the massage parlors. Between the massage shops and the ladies I have come to know over my 11 winters in Chiang Mai, and the new ladies I met from TF, I was getting massage / pussy every night. Cannot wait to return in November.[/QUOTE]Okay, so you are saying I should not upload photo (which is my preference too), but with Premium account?
As I understood, you also don't have photo, but when you show interest while having without photo ID but with premium account, you get return-interest, and even some messages / interest directly from them?
Because if I do same with no photo Standard ID.
1) I don't get interest in return.
2) Never got message back except once.
3) It seems like, even if the timer is 10 min, I can not message to everyone, but only few profiles. (like 1 out of 10).
And since I don't use my photo in my account.
So it turns out that the real issue is 'not having premium account'?
Well I hope I'm able to convey what I want to convey. I am just high on weed since last week xD.
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2894278]I used TF quite a lot in December.
Never saw anyone in BKK asking for 1500, but plenty in the 2000 - 3000 range. There are also lots asking around 5 k, but you can just ignore them unless they are real stunners and offer comprehensive services. One problem with TF is that the girls often agree to additional services via Line, but then change their minds when they arrive. I ended up confirming a basic price for basic services, and then a little menu of what I would pay for extras.
Always pay after the event. If they want paying up front look elsewhere.[/QUOTE]I spent two weeks in January; outside of Thermae Cafe all girls were from TF or Tinder. I agree most in the 2000-3000 be range; I BB and most said okay for another 500-1000 B. I had Oraquick hiv oral testing kits at hotel and told them it was a covid test. Noone complained. I did splurge on go-go girl from SOI Cowboy I met on Tinder who was looking to make extra money on day off. I gave her 8000 B but for the day ( 4 hours hanging out at hotel) and BB negotiated upfront. But that is the exception.
Hi All,
Been reading through the forums and appreciate the trove of information that's in this forum. (lots of pages to read through). I had a couple of questions if somebody wouldn't mind answers:
1) I am a westerner but Indian. Realize I am going to have to figure my way around "dealing with that" but what would be the recommended is the sure fire way of getting quality girls? Would it be go go bars or sticking to escort sites? Even TF seems like it requires effort and time and I would prefer to just have a sure fire thing even if I have to pay a little extra.
2) Is staying near Silom Road the best area to easily access the night life activities? I was thinking of staying at LE Meridien.
3) I am planning a 1. 5 week trip to Bangkok. Is that too long to monger? I figured the first two days are shot given the time difference from the USA And adjusting. I also plan to see the city and go around and do stuff during the day.
4) Any other thread / vids / forums I should read through as I plan my trip would be helpful. I am currently reading through the Bangkok Reports forum + Bangkok Hotels.
[QUOTE=TiredOf;2894880]Okay, so you are saying I should not upload photo (which is my preference too), but with Premium account?
As I understood, you also don't have photo, but when you show interest while having without photo ID but with premium account, you get return-interest, and even some messages / interest directly from them?
Because if I do same with no photo Standard ID.
1) I don't get interest in return.
2) Never got message back except once.
3) It seems like, even if the timer is 10 min, I can not message to everyone, but only few profiles. (like 1 out of 10).
And since I don't use my photo in my account.
So it turns out that the real issue is 'not having premium account'?
Well I hope I'm able to convey what I want to convey. I am just high on weed since last week xD.[/QUOTE]If you sign up to TF you can set filters on who can see your profile (and photographs), for example women, men or ladyboys. Why are you reluctant to upload a photo? Would you want to meet a girl if you hadn't seen a photo of her?
There are 2 sorts of TF membership (standard and premium) this applies to men and women. If you are a standard member you can't message premium women. If you want to maximise your responses go premium and upload a photo.
[QUOTE=Merperb;2894970]Hi All,
Been reading through the forums and appreciate the trove of information that's in this forum. (lots of pages to read through). I had a couple of questions if somebody wouldn't mind answers:
1) I am a westerner but Indian. Realize I am going to have to figure my way around "dealing with that" but what would be the recommended is the sure fire way of getting quality girls? Would it be go go bars or sticking to escort sites? Even TF seems like it requires effort and time and I would prefer to just have a sure fire thing even if I have to pay a little extra.
2) Is staying near Silom Road the best area to easily access the night life activities? I was thinking of staying at LE Meridien.
3) I am planning a 1. 5 week trip to Bangkok. Is that too long to monger? I figured the first two days are shot given the time difference from the USA And adjusting. I also plan to see the city and go around and do stuff during the day.
4) Any other thread / vids / forums I should read through as I plan my trip would be helpful. I am currently reading through the Bangkok Reports forum + Bangkok Hotels.[/QUOTE]I'm confused.
Did you choose Silom area because of the Dunkin Doughnutts guy and his love for Meet The World?
It's not a Happening Area since 1999.
I would not recommend it.
[QUOTE=Merperb;2894970]Hi All,
Been reading through the forums and appreciate the trove of information that's in this forum. (lots of pages to read through). I had a couple of questions if somebody wouldn't mind answers:
1) I am a westerner but Indian. Realize I am going to have to figure my way around "dealing with that" but what would be the recommended is the sure fire way of getting quality girls? Would it be go go bars or sticking to escort sites? Even TF seems like it requires effort and time and I would prefer to just have a sure fire thing even if I have to pay a little extra.
2) Is staying near Silom Road the best area to easily access the night life activities? I was thinking of staying at LE Meridien.
3) I am planning a 1. 5 week trip to Bangkok. Is that too long to monger? I figured the first two days are shot given the time difference from the USA And adjusting. I also plan to see the city and go around and do stuff during the day.
4) Any other thread / vids / forums I should read through as I plan my trip would be helpful. I am currently reading through the Bangkok Reports forum + Bangkok Hotels.[/QUOTE]I am also an Indian, and currently in Bangkok. About to leave in few days. I can share some insights, can help.
First of all, if you have read this forum, then you must have read that there is some racism against Indian, well that is partially true. I was worried about it too before visiting, I also chatted about same with many girls from gogos, bar, smooci etc, and it turns out Indians have bad reputation because of some bald Indian fat oldies who keep on negotiating and drinking / harassing; My word of advice, don't do that. Out of some, this is the prime reason why Indians have bad repo against some girls (not everyone though). You should treat every girls good, don't try to do unnecessary negotiating, and then you will be good to go.
Alright, talking about my stay, I'm staying at Sofitel, if it fits your budget by all means its toally recommended. You get access to everything in night, Thermae cafe is just 50 m walk. No problem in bringing girls in, brought even 2 girls multiple times.
So I have been here for almost 10 days now, and have tried everything possible. I will try to cover in short points, the basic things which you can try.
1) Street freelancers.
Well pretty basic one, although sometime you can get a looker but mostly a no for me. I did pick up once, got lousy blowjob, so didn't bother to try next time.
2) Smooci.
Disappointing tbh. None of the younger girls are available. All are 30-40, and age is not accurate + photoshop as usual, same for all escort sites.
However if BBBJ+CIM is your thing, pretty much every girl does it. And sometimes its convinient, even called once at 9 morning one day. You can take their premium, its actually better deal, you save lots with extra baht discounts and option to read reviews with 1 HR option (used 1 HR a lot).
Although there is 1 girl which I can recommend, probably the only girl now (out or 5 which I tried yet), which looked better than photos and excellent is service. Goes by the name Jordy.
Gave me total GFE feel, as usual I called first for 1 HR, but then extended to 12 hrs. I actually went to city tour with her, went and saw great power mahanakhon, cruise dinner. Experience was nice. And she was excellent service wise, just got to love CIM. Since we had such a great chemistry, almost tried BBFS, but then I controlled myself. Nonetheless, in my experience she was the only one worth it. I still won't call worth it though, but comparatively. Since at same price from smooci, I can get 2 girls from massage or even more from street if interested.
3) Soapy.
Got to be the best thing there is if you want to enjoy. There are lots of reviews here, you can read it, I read it too and made my list. To name a few, I frequented to Aries, Doki Doki, Cherry, Hunny bunny, Kokoro.
I generally book the 90 minutes 4 hands massage, that's just heaven for me. Some girls which I liked, I just got their line number, so I keep calling them at night when their shift is over for sleepover, which is way cheaper than smooci.
Tbh, if you have time in your hand, you should just skip escort sites completely, expensive + misleading with looks and age.
4) BJ bars.
The place where I visited the most. First thing in the afternoon where I go after waking up, then some at evening and sometimes at night. There's Wood bar near Nana plaza, soi 7/1. Although girls are not always great here, but the service is just perfect for 800 baht. BBBJ + CIM, always one of my fav. I just take a beer, and drink while getting sucked, total heaven.
Although Wood bar is not the best BJ bar by any angle, but I visited here most because it was closest to where I generally hang. Got my friends staying at hotel nearby.
Also visited Madam claude, experience was good. FS was available here with different kind of blowjobs.
7-Heaven: bit expensive, 1300 baht, but quality girls here.
Kasalong: service was good, but girls were the worst one here.
5) Massagerepublic.
Another escort site which you can try. I tried few from here, it was decent.
Notably, I tried one outcall massage with the name Milky table, ad is listed there, well service was good. They sent 2 girls in my hotel with a table having hole where your johny goes when you lay on your stomach. Experience was good, getting blown at bottom by 1 girl and getting massage by other simultaneosly. Will probably repeat once before I leave.
6) Nana plaza and Soi cowboy.
I preferred Nana plaza. Good place to chill. Went to almost all bars and barfined. Always visit and search at bars at the end of the night, to pick best of the girl available for sleepover.
7) Thermae cafe.
Must have heard about it a lot and even seen yt videos, well you won't be disappointed. Pretty packed here most of the times I visited. And most imp thing is, girls are not pushy and no LB is there. You can just have a drink, circle around and pick. Rate is usually 3 k baht for short time. I don't negotiate, so I don't know if you can get in lower. Some even charge 3. 5 k or 4 k, but mostly, you will get for 3 k here. From what I noticed here, girls prefer mostly asians here, and not americans much. And discrimination on the basis of skin is always there. Although they won't probably say NO if you ask, but they won't show as much excitement as they would be giving to others.
8) Fiwfans. Vip.
When I first saw this site, I was so excited. I was so looking forward to use it after coming to Bangkok since rate was dirt cheap and all beautiful women. But reality hits, all are photoshopped and services are lousy asf. I won't recommend it. Better to go in any random massage parlor, give 1. 5 k baht and get amazing service as compared to lousy BJs and non-excitement rides in fiwfans. I tried 2 times, experience was bad both time, girls was way wayyy different than advertised, so decided not to go there again.
9) Some high end clubs like PIMP.
Although I have not personally tried it yet, but it is another option. You can look into it. But definitely not worth your penny.
10) TF.
Well I tried using it, but had no success with standard membership. Not going to get premium, since there are unlimited other options.
Well that's pretty much it. You can go from either of these 10 ways to get a girl, that is what pretty much I'm doing since last 10 days. High on weed, drinking and just exploring with different girls.
Sad that I have to leave soon, anyways, GL to your trip.
[QUOTE=Merperb;2894970]I am planning a 1.5 week trip to Bangkok. Is that too long to monger? I figured the first two days are shot given the time difference from the USA. I also plan to see the city and go around and do stuff during the day.[/QUOTE]Let's call that 10 days in Bangkok. I don't think that's too long.
You are correct that jet lag is a factor coming from the United States and adjusting to a time change of 9-12 hours. The heat and humidity is also a challenge, especially if you hail from a colder part of the USA. Quick Tip: When you arrive you'll be tempted to drink too much and stay awake long past the point you should be in bed. Don't do that. If you push too hard too early it will take several days to recover. Moreover, as you note, there's lots of stuff to do in Bangkok away from the naughty boy scene. Great food. Crazy shopping. Lots of culture. You don't want to waste the daylight hours with a punishing hangover.
LE Meridien is nice, and so is the Silon Road area. But it's a bit distant from the "nightlife" areas. The conventional wisdom is that first time visitors should stay north or south of Sukhumvit Road, say, between Sois 2 & 20. (BRT Skytrain, Green Line, between the Chit Lom station and the Asok station.) Look at the forum for Bangkok Hotels and you'll find dozens upon dozens of reviews of lodging in that area.
There is no substitute for doing the reading in the forums. Go back at least six months. Pay attention to reports from Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy and Thermae. Plus the soapies and the oilies. I am old school, so I'm not wild about using online resources. Moreover, as an Indian man I think you're better off making the rounds in person because you'll be able to better gauge the interest of the girls and the mamasans. It's just easier to find somebody you click with face to face.
Cheers,
Bunky
I made a reservation at Belga Rooftop Bar and Brasserie (32nd floor of the Sofitel Bangkok Sukhumvit) through their website link to sevenrooms. I chose the Bar Area Lounge Table option. She picked me up at Tai Pan and drove us there, all dolled up and excited to try something new. On a previous date she had mentioned she liked Belgian beer so this was the perfect place to go. Amazing views of the city outside on that terrace where we sat. All the tables were occupied at 8 pm. She chose the Petrus Triple Blonde, I went with the Quad Kwak Pale Ale (red), both listed at 8 percent and quite good, especially mine. We ordered scallops and a pork dish, scallops were big and fresh with a white sauce, attractive presentations. Fun.
Session one, Analisa paid 2100 for 60 minutes. Total disaster. No kissing, covered BJ. Release by HJ. Will never go there.
Session 2. Snow white. Smile and som. Everything was on menu. Except for Som small boobies, It was exceptional. 4000 and 100 tip to both.
Session 3. Snow white. Smile and candy. Everything on menu. Smile is too good. Candy was average. Again overall memorable experince. 4000 and 100 tip to both.
Request from fellow brothers, planning to visit snow white again. Smile I will repeat, whom should I take with her. Young or old with good boobies and service. TIA.
[QUOTE=Merperb;2894970]Hi All,
Been reading through the forums and appreciate the trove of information that's in this forum. (lots of pages to read through). I had a couple of questions if somebody wouldn't mind answers:
1) I am a westerner but Indian. Realize I am going to have to figure my way around "dealing with that" but what would be the recommended is the sure fire way of getting quality girls? Would it be go go bars or sticking to escort sites? Even TF seems like it requires effort and time and I would prefer to just have a sure fire thing even if I have to pay a little extra.
2) Is staying near Silom Road the best area to easily access the night life activities? I was thinking of staying at LE Meridien.
3) I am planning a 1. 5 week trip to Bangkok. Is that too long to monger? I figured the first two days are shot given the time difference from the USA And adjusting. I also plan to see the city and go around and do stuff during the day.
4) Any other thread / vids / forums I should read through as I plan my trip would be helpful. I am currently reading through the Bangkok Reports forum + Bangkok Hotels.[/QUOTE]Dude if you were born / grew up in the USA you are an American, act like it and you will be treated as such.
Hello from Dubai, I will be in Bangkok from the 29th Feb to the 3rd of Mar. RTFFed the forum and found a treasure trove of information. I am planning to stay at one of the Marriott hotels alongside the sukhumvit area (between Soi 22- soi 50). One question I couldn't find an answer to, and therefore am asking your kind selves to help. Are there any hotels that are not green in this area? I will book my reservation for 2 adults. How does it work if I have to get a lady to join me for the night? Does she have to register at the front desk, like we do in the Middle East?
Any other tips on how I can make best use of the short time I have will be appreciated. In case any of you plan to visit the UAE, please send me a PM.
[QUOTE=TenaliRaman;2895337] One question I couldn't find an answer to, and therefore am asking your kind selves to help. Are there any hotels that are not green in this area? [/QUOTE]By green I assume you mean girl friendly?
I've never heard of anyone having a problem, but best ask the hotel to put your mind at rest. Some may charge extra for more than one girl.
Not copying because it's long, but many thanks to TiredOf for the great detailed report. It's comprehensive and detailed reports like this that make the forum sing. Plus great perspective for our Indian friends. Super job TiredOf!
I had read so many good things about them and as such went there the first day I had landed in BKK last week. Reached there without appointment as they didn't respond on their Line number, the manager / receptionist was totally uninterested and didn't even bother offering a lineup. But I had my eye on a girl out front and she sent her only, so I didn't bring up the topic of the lineup. Massage and service was so so and even though I had booked and paid for 90 minutes I was out of there in like 65-70 minutes max! On my way out, the receptionist and the staff were just sitting and gossiping amongst themselves, maybe I landed at their lunch hour! But definitely a no go for me.
[QUOTE=Ranvir226;2895311]Session one, Analisa paid 2100 for 60 minutes. Total disaster. No kissing, covered BJ. Release by HJ. Will never go there.
Session 2. Snow white. Smile and som. Everything was on menu. Except for Som small boobies, It was exceptional. 4000 and 100 tip to both.
Session 3. Snow white. Smile and candy. Everything on menu. Smile is too good. Candy was average. Again overall memorable experince. 4000 and 100 tip to both.
Request from fellow brothers, planning to visit snow white again. Smile I will repeat, whom should I take with her. Young or old with good boobies and service. TIA.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2895377]By green I assume you mean girl friendly?
I've never heard of anyone having a problem, but best ask the hotel to put your mind at rest. Some may charge extra for more than one girl.[/QUOTE]That's right Llantarnam. Probably a term used more in my neck of the woods due to the restrictions here. Thanks for the quick response. I will check with the hotel.
[QUOTE=MaxDon;2895393]I had read so many good things about them and as such went there the first day I had landed in BKK last week. Reached there without appointment as they didn't respond on their Line number, the manager / receptionist was totally uninterested and didn't even bother offering a lineup. But I had my eye on a girl out front and she sent her only, so I didn't bring up the topic of the lineup. Massage and service was so so and even though I had booked and paid for 90 minutes I was out of there in like 65-70 minutes max! On my way out, the receptionist and the staff were just sitting and gossiping amongst themselves, maybe I landed at their lunch hour! But definitely a no go for me.[/QUOTE]You need to judge the Poster before taking advice. I swear most are just Hogwash.
And then it really comes down to if you Click with the Girl.
O.
I arrive in Bangkok early next month.
After doing some research my current thinking is a Nuru massage at Doki Doki.
A duo would be good perhaps with Luna and Bowvy.
Has anyone got any recent experience of Doki Doki and in particular of the two girls I have mentioned?
I will certainly provide a report once the gig has been completed.
I will afterwards undertake an arrangement with a freelancer and it looks like there is many to choose from.
[QUOTE=AlanGiven;2895531]O.
I arrive in Bangkok early next month.
After doing some research my current thinking is a Nuru massage at Doki Doki.
A duo would be good perhaps with Luna and Bowvy.
Has anyone got any recent experience of Doki Doki and in particular of the two girls I have mentioned?
I will certainly provide a report once the gig has been completed.
I will afterwards undertake an arrangement with a freelancer and it looks like there is many to choose from.[/QUOTE]I'll be there the tail end of this week. I'll try to report back on where I go and who I see. Cheers.
[QUOTE=AlanGiven;2895531]O.
I arrive in Bangkok early next month.
After doing some research my current thinking is a Nuru massage at Doki Doki.
A duo would be good perhaps with Luna and Bowvy.
Has anyone got any recent experience of Doki Doki and in particular of the two girls I have mentioned?
[/QUOTE]I recently provided a report on Bowvy on the MP thread, recommend.
[QUOTE=Tvataham274;2895582]I'll be there the tail end of this week. I'll try to report back on where I go and who I see. Cheers.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that.
[QUOTE=MaxDon;2895393]I had read so many good things about them and as such went there the first day I had landed in BKK last week. Reached there without appointment as they didn't respond on their Line number, the manager / receptionist was totally uninterested and didn't even bother offering a lineup. But I had my eye on a girl out front and she sent her only, so I didn't bring up the topic of the lineup. Massage and service was so so and even though I had booked and paid for 90 minutes I was out of there in like 65-70 minutes max! On my way out, the receptionist and the staff were just sitting and gossiping amongst themselves, maybe I landed at their lunch hour! But definitely a no go for me.[/QUOTE]The so many good things you read about that place are all advertisment and BS reports.
The only real ones are the ones describing a very poor experience and big disappointment from the customer.
[QUOTE=AlanGiven;2895531]A duo would be good perhaps with Luna and Bowvy.[/QUOTE]There is a recent report from a week ago on Bowy in the Bangkok Massage Parlors thread.
I went to this site for the first time yesterday. I wish I knew about it last time I was in Thailand because it looks amazing.
Are the pics mostly accurate? Are the reviews legit?
I've been messaging the girls in Thai to test it out, and seems good. Although if I go to meet in person, I'll have to tell them I don't speak Thai and use a translator.
[QUOTE=NRandom940;2895648]I went to this site for the first time yesterday. I wish I knew about it last time I was in Thailand because it looks amazing.
Are the pics mostly accurate? Are the reviews legit?
I've been messaging the girls in Thai to test it out, and seems good. Although if I go to meet in person, I'll have to tell them I don't speak Thai and use a translator.[/QUOTE]Usually you're just talking with their agent. I've read the bad reviews on FF are removed and figure all pics are P.S., some more than others. Some of them don't see farang so check ahead of time. I've been a few time's like my last two trips and like half of them I'd repeat half I wouldn't LOL.
I have been to Thailand many times before the pandemic and just one quick overnight last year. I've never been a big fan of Soi Cowboy or Nana Plaza, and have usually frequented the high-end soapies like The Lord and La Belle. With The Lord, my fav place in BKK, now closed I have decided to take a different approach this upcoming trip. I got on Thai Friendly and connected with several freelance ladies that I might be up for meeting. I have also identified a couple ladies on massagerepublic that I might roll the dice on. Lastly, I am staying near Thermae, so I will likely hit that place too.
I am curious if anyone there on the ground in Bangkok can tell me if The Lord re-opened as another establishment? It was way too beautiful of a building to stay vacant. If it has not re-opened, has any place replaced it as the premier soapy in Bangkok where the wealthy Thai men and Japanese business travelers go. I had heard that Tarawadee remodeled and is now just Tara. I think we all are aware that there are places that are well known to locals that get kept quiet from us international tourist. Lastly, it seems like the high-end gentleman's clubs like Pegasus did not survive the pandemic. Have any new luxury gentleman's club opened?
I have been very fortunate in years past to uncover places like The Lord and meeting some of the most beautiful Thai ladies in BKK. Much has been discovered by talking with Japanese businessmen at my hotels and finding where they go and where wealthy Thai men frequent. I am not flying to the other side of the world to hookup with a bar girl from Soi Cowboy. I might as well just go to Tijuana if that's what I wanted.
If there is anyone like me that is interested only in the high-end luxury soapies and premier gentleman's clubs and knows where to go today to find the elite talent in BKK, please message me. I will return the favor upon my return and share what I find on my upcoming trip. I am usually lucky in uncovering the secret places that don't get mentioned on forums.
Depends on how flexible your definition of high end is but as of today I'd say Maria & LE Belle. Lalisa (formerly copacabana) too. Since you're in the area hit Poseidon and Emmanuel but I wouldn't consider either high end. If you can't find anything you like those are legit options. Haven't been to La Defense in years, but had some very good times there I think they're still open. Did not walk that far south to check the Lord but I think it's highly unlikely they have reopened the property as a soapy. Gentrification is killing that stretch of Ratchada.
[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2895749]I have been to Thailand many times before the pandemic and just one quick overnight last year. I've never been a big fan of Soi Cowboy or Nana Plaza, and have usually frequented the high-end soapies like The Lord and La Belle. With The Lord, my fav place in BKK, now closed I have decided to take a different approach this upcoming trip. I got on Thai Friendly and connected with several freelance ladies that I might be up for meeting. I have also identified a couple ladies on massagerepublic that I might roll the dice on. Lastly, I am staying near Thermae, so I will likely hit that place too.
I am curious if anyone there on the ground in Bangkok can tell me if The Lord re-opened as another establishment? It was way too beautiful of a building to stay vacant. If it has not re-opened, has any place replaced it as the premier soapy in Bangkok where the wealthy Thai men and Japanese business travelers go. I had heard that Tarawadee remodeled and is now just Tara. I think we all are aware that there are places that are well known to locals that get kept quiet from us international tourist. Lastly, it seems like the high-end gentleman's clubs like Pegasus did not survive the pandemic. Have any new luxury gentleman's club opened?
I have been very fortunate in years past to uncover places like The Lord and meeting some of the most beautiful Thai ladies in BKK. Much has been discovered by talking with Japanese businessmen at my hotels and finding where they go and where wealthy Thai men frequent. I am not flying to the other side of the world to hookup with a bar girl from Soi Cowboy. I might as well just go to Tijuana if that's what I wanted.
If there is anyone like me that is interested only in the high-end luxury soapies and premier gentleman's clubs and knows where to go today to find the elite talent in BKK, please message me. I will return the favor upon my return and share what I find on my upcoming trip. I am usually lucky in uncovering the secret places that don't get mentioned on forums.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FilthyBeaver;2895780]Depends on how flexible your definition of high end is but as of today I'd say Maria & LE Belle. Lalisa (formerly copacabana) too. Since you're in the area hit Poseidon and Emmanuel but I wouldn't consider either high end. If you can't find anything you like those are legit options. Haven't been to La Defense in years, but had some very good times there I think they're still open. Did not walk that far south to check the Lord but I think it's highly unlikely they have reopened the property as a soapy. Gentrification is killing that stretch of Ratchada.[/QUOTE]I've RTFF; I've written many reports on Thai, Japan, Cambodia and Mexico forums.
What's the typical ST or LT cost difference between "high end" girls and "regular" girls?
[QUOTE=FilthyBeaver;2895780]Depends on how flexible your definition of high end is but as of today I'd say Maria & LE Belle. Lalisa (formerly copacabana) too. Since you're in the area hit Poseidon and Emmanuel but I wouldn't consider either high end. If you can't find anything you like those are legit options. Haven't been to La Defense in years, but had some very good times there I think they're still open. Did not walk that far south to check the Lord but I think it's highly unlikely they have reopened the property as a soapy. Gentrification is killing that stretch of Ratchada.[/QUOTE]I've RTFF; I've written many reports on Thai, Japan, Cambodia and Mexico forums.
What's the typical ST or LT cost difference between "high end" girls and "regular" girls?
I did a couple FIWFANS girls last month. There were no baits and switches. They were the exact girls with current pics, nice, clean, pleasant, all natural assets, beautiful, flawless skin, no blemishes, sexy, loving attitudes, one spoke English with sweet, fun, sexy personality. Repeated and had great times with her, wanted to take her for all night dates.
Only problem was, girls used to do full DFKs before, but recently they would not do DFKs or any kissing of the mouth. I may have to confirm DFKs with bookers before booking.
FIWFANS girls are more authentic Thais compared to fake, aggressive, mercenary bar and gogo girls, cheap foreigners' hoes with ridiculous fake assets, plasticky personalities, ridiculous prices.
FIWFANS reviews are obviously fakes. Girls are all rated 10's for everything. What a stupid joke. Their rates are low enough that you can try many to find your true gems. Confirm all services with bookers.
There is generally no ST / LT at a soapy. You pay per round, and stay in the venue. She does not leave. A round is 90 min universally. If you want another round you pay for another 90 min. I have taken a sideliner out of LE Belle years ago (she has to agree to go) and I believe I paid the equivalent of 3 rounds. How long she stays with you is up to her so you need to make sure there is some major chemistry, there are no guarantees from the venue (unlike if you were to keep her in house).
Prices per round are generally around 2200 for the least desirable girls to 9 k+ for the hottest model quality.
[QUOTE=Vendelo;2895860]I've RTFF; I've written many reports on Thai, Japan, Cambodia and Mexico forums.
What's the typical ST or LT cost difference between "high end" girls and "regular" girls?[/QUOTE]
What is the norm regarding paying a freelancer?
Is it normal to pay as in the UK in advance or after after deed is done.
[QUOTE=FilthyBeaver;2895970]There is generally no ST / LT at a soapy. You pay per round, and stay in the venue. She does not leave. A round is 90 min universally. If you want another round you pay for another 90 min. I have taken a sideliner out of LE Belle years ago (she has to agree to go) and I believe I paid the equivalent of 3 rounds. How long she stays with you is up to her so you need to make sure there is some major chemistry, there are no guarantees from the venue (unlike if you were to keep her in house).
Prices per round are generally around 2200 for the least desirable girls to 9 k+ for the hottest model quality.[/QUOTE]Least Desireable means Ugly. LOL. Hahaha.
[QUOTE=AlanGiven;2896001]What is the norm regarding paying a freelancer?
Is it normal to pay as in the UK in advance or after after deed is done.[/QUOTE]NEVER pay upfront. I have never even been asked by a girl to do this. But then again I stay in decent hotels and establish rapport in communication with them intially.
Any suggestions for where to find a girl at 6 am? My flight from Istambul arrives at BKK at 4:45 and I think I will arrive about that time at my hotel in Soi33.
I could arrange for a TF girl, but I am doubtful she will arrive at my hotel in a timely fashion. Massage places are all closed.
Are there any agencies one can trust at this hour. Is there anything happening at Nana Plaza?
I would appreciate suggestions.
[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2896070]Any suggestions for where to find a girl at 6 am? My flight from Istambul arrives at BKK at 4:45 and I think I will arrive about that time at my hotel in Soi33.
I could arrange for a TF girl, but I am doubtful she will arrive at my hotel in a timely fashion. Massage places are all closed.
Are there any agencies one can trust at this hour. Is there anything happening at Nana Plaza?
I would appreciate suggestions.[/QUOTE]Nana Bts Station.
Near Vasu Exchange. More towards Soi 11. There's a female, shortish, excessisive Lipstuck, not Fatish but more Thickish, not the best of Faces, but she is out there early AM. She isn't in Prison so she must be Safe.
Tell her Pattya Soi 6 40 drinks sent you.
[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2896070]Any suggestions for where to find a girl at 6 am? My flight from Istambul arrives at BKK at 4:45 and I think I will arrive about that time at my hotel in Soi33.
I could arrange for a TF girl, but I am doubtful she will arrive at my hotel in a timely fashion. Massage places are all closed.
Are there any agencies one can trust at this hour. Is there anything happening at Nana Plaza?
I would appreciate suggestions.[/QUOTE]My suggestion is a long hot shower, it tasty breakfast and go to bed.
Here's your on the ground report from last night.
The streets were packed with Chinese. Thermae was packed with Chinese peasants. It was also packed full of hot chicks, best lineup I have seen there in several months. There were at least a dozen I would have slammed on the spot, but my peasant non-English speaking puying was just harassing the hell out of me to fuck her and get her some cash that she came in from her home somewhere in bum fuck province to do me. The lineup was week in billboard, as there were a lot of jigglers and fat butts. The crowd was surprisingly light. The lineup was horrible in rainbow four and five. There was a hottie in Bbunnies that I liked but I've had a bad experience with her in the past and she's sort of a tweaker anyway. Other than her, the lineup there is atrocious.
All in all, I wasn't really impressed too much at Nana, however, the street was absolutely filled with gash and there was some nice ones out. I did not see schoolgirl, but I knew that 40 drinks probably had her butt up in a short time room somewhere. There was also a shortage of deaf girls.
Special shout out to the burger stand across from Nana. The best burgers for the price in town. It almost makes me want to drink just to slobber one down at the end of the night to soak up all the beer.
555555555. There should be 9 fives and a period for the 10 character message length filter.
Also note, I did not disagree with you.
[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2896012]Least Desireable means Ugly. LOL. Hahaha.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2896070]Any suggestions for where to find a girl at 6 am? My flight from Istambul arrives at BKK at 4:45 and I think I will arrive about that time at my hotel in Soi33.
I could arrange for a TF girl, but I am doubtful she will arrive at my hotel in a timely fashion. Massage places are all closed.
Are there any agencies one can trust at this hour. Is there anything happening at Nana Plaza?
I would appreciate suggestions.[/QUOTE]You may see some still around Soi 4, or along the north side of Suk from there to like Asok. Soi 11 may have a few hanging out still, or in front of Ruamchitt Plaza. Nana is closed, and all MPs, BJ bars etc. Are closed).
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2896093]My suggestion is a long hot shower, it tasty breakfast and go to bed.[/QUOTE]I think majority of WG are thinking about going home at 4 am at latest. I found 4 am till 4 pm was sleeping time for WG and not available.
Could always line one up before hand on TF or other site.
NI.
[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2896070]Any suggestions for where to find a girl at 6 am? My flight from Istambul arrives at BKK at 4:45 and I think I will arrive about that time at my hotel in Soi33.
I could arrange for a TF girl, but I am doubtful she will arrive at my hotel in a timely fashion. Massage places are all closed.
Are there any agencies one can trust at this hour. Is there anything happening at Nana Plaza?
I would appreciate suggestions.[/QUOTE]If timely fashion is your concern, you can try smooci. Girls will be available there that time, but very few obviously. I have also called once at 8-9 am, so I know availability is there.
Another option is talk from girl beforehand from TF or MR, and give them strict timing to be present. Since they can't blame traffic on that hour, so they usually comes at time itself.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2896096]Here's your on the ground report from last night.
The streets were packed with Chinese. Thermae was packed with Chinese peasants. [/QUOTE]Do you think these guys could have been Korean and not Chinese?
By saying they were peasants, is it because they wore junky clothes, did not have nice / modern haircuts, wore dirty Chinese brand tennis shoes?
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2896096]Here's your on the ground report from last night.
The streets were packed with Chinese. Thermae was packed with Chinese peasants. [/QUOTE]Do you think these guys could have been Korean and not Chinese?
By saying they were peasants, is it because they wore junky clothes, did not have nice / modern haircuts, wore dirty Chinese brand tennis shoes?
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2896096]Here's your on the ground report from last night.
Thermae was packed with Chinese peasants. It was also packed full of hot chicks, best lineup I have seen there in several months. There were at least a dozen I would have slammed on the spot, but my peasant non-English speaking puying was just harassing the hell out of me to fuck her and get her some cash that she came in from her home somewhere in bum fuck province to do me.
[/QUOTE]I was also in Thermae last night and agree that the lineup was impressive. Even more than that, my decidedly caucasian self got some actual warm, welcoming smiles from a lot of the girls. When I went last year it was a solid wall of stony dismissal. But of course, most of the girls still prefer Asians. I was amazed by some of the absolute toads of Chinese guys that got bright smiles. I know it's all about the money, but still.
[QUOTE=Mahku;2896192]I was also in Thermae last night and agree that the lineup was impressive. [B]Even more than that, my decidedly caucasian self got some actual warm, welcoming smiles from a lot of the girls. When I went last year it was a solid wall of stony dismissal.[/b] But of course, most of the girls still prefer Asians. I was amazed by some of the absolute toads of Chinese guys that got bright smiles. I know it's all about the money, but still.[/QUOTE]I stopped in Thermae a couple of times over the past month and got the same uncommonly warm and inviting smiles from the girls there as well. And I would say the warmest and most inviting smiles came from the girls who would easily fall into the top 5-10% of lookers in the place.
I didn't report it here at the time but did mention it to a couple of fellow farang punter friends. Now that you have reported experiencing the same thing I will say here what I said to my fellow farang punter friends about it; if I had to characterize what the look on their faces and smiles conveyed I would say it for all the world seemed to me they were relieved and pleasantly surprised to finally see a potential customer strolling through the place who was not an Asian.
Seriously. There it is. I've said it.
I did not approach and negotiate anything with anyone either time because I really only cruised through to grab a soda and check out the line up and crowd. And I had a very sweet and affectionate GF waiting for me back in the room who I knew for a fact was not going to recoil in horror by my move to have Real Sex with her or get a Real Blowjob from her. Very much unlike the buzz kill reaction I knew from years of experience such a request would likely garner from a Thermae looker. LOL. I just wasn't in the mood for that.
[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2896070]Any suggestions for where to find a girl at 6 am? My flight from Istambul arrives at BKK at 4:45 and I think I will arrive about that time at my hotel in Soi33.
I could arrange for a TF girl, but I am doubtful she will arrive at my hotel in a timely fashion. Massage places are all closed.
Are there any agencies one can trust at this hour. Is there anything happening at Nana Plaza?
I would appreciate suggestions.[/QUOTE]This happened pre COVID.
My flight arrived at same time and I reached the hotel near cowboy around daybreak.
Don't even think about bars and clubs to be open at 6 am. You will only find housekeeping staff and trash takers.
So around 8 am post breakfast I went to BJ bar, Lolitas or Kasalong think. Got a nice BJ with rimming.
Best way to start the day.
[QUOTE=FilthyBeaver;2895780]Depends on how flexible your definition of high end is but as of today I'd say Maria & LE Belle. Lalisa (formerly copacabana) too. Since you're in the area hit Poseidon and Emmanuel but I wouldn't consider either high end. If you can't find anything you like those are legit options. Haven't been to La Defense in years, but had some very good times there I think they're still open. Did not walk that far south to check the Lord but I think it's highly unlikely they have reopened the property as a soapy. Gentrification is killing that stretch of Ratchada.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply. Yes, Maria looks on par with La Belle. I have been to Poseidon and Emmanuel in years past. They run lots of girls and offer good value, but certainly not luxury soapies comparable to The Lord. I have uncovered a place called Black Caviar which looks appealing that I will be checking out. I know there are many high-end places in Bangkok that just never get reported on. The G clubs in Bangkok are probably on my list to visit as well. I have never been to The Pimp but it looks like it is a lot of fun (if that place is still in business).
Not Trolley.
As the topic comes up so much can someone start a How to Manual for Brown people. LOL. Hahaha.
[QUOTE=Vendelo;2896189]Do you think these guys could have been Korean and not Chinese?
By saying they were peasants, is it because they wore junky clothes, did not have nice / modern haircuts, wore dirty Chinese brand tennis shoes?[/QUOTE]Chinese New Year is a 14-15 day celebration and a lot of Chinese travel to BKK on vacation. It ends with the next full moon, which is Saturday (tomorrow). I expect the number of Chinese in BKK will diminish dramatically by Monday.
Full disclosure I was never a customer of the Lord. Girls were never attractive enough for me. We had a much more reliable source of Thai male preferred girls back then and, well, that didn't turn out very well.
I will conceed that it was very posh and high end / expensive.
[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2896248]Thanks for the reply. Yes, Maria looks on par with La Belle. I have been to Poseidon and Emmanuel in years past. They run lots of girls and offer good value, but certainly not luxury soapies comparable to The Lord. I have uncovered a place called Black Caviar which looks appealing that I will be checking out. I know there are many high-end places in Bangkok that just never get reported on. The G clubs in Bangkok are probably on my list to visit as well. I have never been to The Pimp but it looks like it is a lot of fun (if that place is still in business).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vendelo;2896189]Do you think these guys could have been Korean and not Chinese?
By saying they were peasants, is it because they wore junky clothes, did not have nice / modern haircuts, wore dirty Chinese brand tennis shoes?[/QUOTE]No because they act like they have never seen a flush toilet before. Pushing, shoving, loud, rude.
There is a difference between Chinese and Korean / Japanese that's easy to spot.
Last night, Friday, Nana was light on talent, Thermae was heavy. I grabbed one and it was fabulous.
Schoolgirl still missing. 40 Drinks took her overseas.
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2895964]I did a couple FIWFANS girls last month. There were no baits and switches. They were the exact girls with current pics, nice, clean, pleasant, all natural assets, beautiful, flawless skin, no blemishes, sexy, loving attitudes, one spoke English with sweet, fun, sexy personality. Repeated and had great times with her, wanted to take her for all night dates.[/QUOTE]Then you've gotten exceedingly lucky. My experiences and for many of those reported here, the photos are very different from reality, services are more limited to what they advertise, service is mechanical, etc. I certainly don't recommend Fiwfans.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2896325]No because they act like they have never seen a flush toilet before. Pushing, shoving, loud, rude.
There is a difference between Chinese and Korean / Japanese that's easy to spot.
Last night, Friday, Nana was light on talent, Thermae was heavy. I grabbed one and it was fabulous.
Schoolgirl still missing. 40 Drinks took her overseas.[/QUOTE]You tuber Joyce Sin dressed up as a SchoolGirl Thai in a recent Video.
Why on Earth would she do that. Is she trying to attract Rich Men of ill Repute. Is she realizing being a You tuber in Thsi doesn't pay the Bills. LOL. Hahaha.
Joyce SIN is quite Pretty. No relation to Mr Sins.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2896217]I stopped in Thermae a couple of times over the past month and got the same uncommonly warm and inviting smiles from the girls there as well. And I would say the warmest and most inviting smiles came from the girls who would easily fall into the top 5-10% of lookers in the place.
I didn't report it here at the time but did mention it to a couple of fellow farang punter friends. Now that you have reported experiencing the same thing I will say here what I said to my fellow farang punter friends about it; if I had to characterize what the look on their faces and smiles conveyed I would say it for all the world seemed to me they were relieved and pleasantly surprised to finally see a potential customer strolling through the place who was not an Asian.
Seriously. There it is. I've said it.
.[/QUOTE]I agree, was in BKK last month and provided report on this forum.
I'm an older white guy with grey hair and I strolled through the first time a little after 8 pm as you did just to look. Lots of smiles and some girls initiated conversation and quoted 3000 baht for ST. Then went to Nana Plaza to check out a couple of places.
Went back to Thermae about 10 pm and had my pick of many beautiful girls. Some avoided eye contact but most were game. I took a girl back to my hotel and although she had super small boobs, she had great nips and an ass I could stare at and touch all night, she was drop dead gorgeous. She asked for 3000 and quickly dropped to 2500 when I hesitated but said we have to leave now. Who was I to argue at those conditions. Sex was great with multiple positions, BBBJ and DATY.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2896217]if I had to characterize what the look on their faces and smiles conveyed I would say it for all the world seemed to me they were relieved and pleasantly surprised to finally see a potential customer strolling through the place who was not an Asian.
Seriously. There it is. I've said it.[/QUOTE]555 ET. I feel there is some truth to this. Like any Thai bar some girls will like Farang and others will prefer Japanese / Korean. I get around this as a Farang by speaking to them in Japanese so they think I'm from Tokyo.
Like I posted earlier this month Thermae's current line up is top notch. Service... well.... HUGE YMMV.
Pre covid I was still able to find freelancers for 1 k. From what I see people seem happy paying 2500ST nowadays which seem quite expensive to me, for 3000 baht I can easily get laid back home.
How much charge FLs around Nana?
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2896325]No because they act like they have never seen a flush toilet before. [b]Pushing, shoving, loud, rude.[/b]
There is a difference between Chinese and Korean / Japanese that's easy to spot.
...[/QUOTE]Yep! They are definitely Chinese! LOL.
Thanks for your reply.
I just stumbled upon this while checking something else online. Wanted to just know if anyone here knows about it. Seems like an english version of fwfans.
[URL]https://global.141-hk.com/area/21?region=26[/URL]
I took a 5 day side trip to BKK on my last 3 week trip to AC. Once I chatted a bit with the girls, I showed them a google translate of "I like you but I hate to use condoms. Will that be a problem?
I batted 1. 000 (7 out of 7 girls) with Nana Plaza girls and I Batted 0. 000 with the girls at Thermae (I must have asked 20 different girls and got turned down every time).
[QUOTE=ShadowJ;2896496]I took a 5 day side trip to BKK on my last 3 week trip to AC. Once I chatted a bit with the girls, I showed them a google translate of "I like you but I hate to use condoms. Will that be a problem?
I batted 1. 000 (7 out of 7 girls) with Nana Plaza girls and I Batted 0. 000 with the girls at Thermae (I must have asked 20 different girls and got turned down every time).[/QUOTE]Not sure what your question is but that success ratio for Nana Plaza girls vs Thermae girls seems quite realistic and, well, normal to me.
7 out of 7 Nana Plaza girls might seem a bit high. But not necessarily so considering the wider range of girls working at Nana Plaza; beer bar girls, Freelancers at or near the entrance, gogo dancers, etc. And I would say there is a much wider range of ages and levels of attractiveness in and around Nana Plaza than in a typical Thermae line up.
Now, when you say 7 out of 7 Nana Plaza girls looked at your translation and apparently did not immediately declare NO, are you saying you then took each of those 7 girls to your room and each and every one of them did indeed deliver no hassle, no further discussion BBFS (CIP)? Or did they just look at your translation app and nod yes or something like that without ever being put to the test back in your room?
[QUOTE=CobraCommand;2896441]I just stumbled upon this while checking something else online. Wanted to just know if anyone here knows about it. Seems like an english version of fwfans.
[URL]https://global.141-hk.com/area/21?region=26[/URL][/QUOTE]Never heard of them before, but many have Line ID so contact should be easy. None state what rate they are looking for.
The one that caught my eye included details of services. It includes 'Do not accept decorated cocks'. Where's the translation man when you need him.
Edit: just found another one where services include 'can lick my sister'
Hey wanted to throw out some Nana reports. Overall, I think Nana is struggling to be what it once was and has gotten certainly more conservative. The lack of nudity in almost all gogs is also nonsense, very few clubs even do topless anymore.
Anyways. First floor gogos are all worthless. No nudity, girls are basically generic you can find in any of the clubs there or anywhere. The bar in the middle of the plaza is good. Just don't even bother. I have no idea what these places are trying to do or why people are in them. They are all bad.
Second & 3rd floor corner bars. The ones like in the stairwell. All of them are garbage, don't waste your time. Either like 8 mundane girls not paying attention or they will have like 3 mundane girls total with one on the floor not caring. Whatever beer or drink special prices they are advertising aren't worth it. Skip them all.
Rainbow 4 - Pretty girls, this place has always catered to the japanese audience, its now pretty exclusively that audience. No more nudity, the girls are totally uninterested to be on stage, its really clearly catering to japanese, what used to be arguably the best looking girls and clubs is not even worth going into really now. You might as well go to Cowboy instead.
Rainbow ?2? Second floor. Not sure but the rainbow bar (on the second floor or looks to be a ladyboy or post op bar and they got real aggressive outside just walking by. I think patrons inside didn't realize it was a LB bar or whatever it was, I didn't go in, something was up.
Butterflies. Nice that its a lounge, nothing interesting on quality like days of the past.
Billboard. Easily the most crowded bar, and basically a club. Plenty of good there and they actually get topless. But the actual environment is a pain.
Angelwitch. Always a chill spot to drink and look, quality varies by night in that you may find 1-2 you like or not.
[QUOTE=Buck011;2896418]Pre covid I was still able to find freelancers for 1 k. From what I see people seem happy paying 2500ST nowadays which seem quite expensive to me, for 3000 baht I can easily get laid back home.
How much charge FLs around Nana?[/QUOTE]You'll find some FLs willing to do 1500 or 2000 without that much effort on Soi 4. Especially later in the night. Quality is up to you for what you like.
[QUOTE=ShadowJ;2896496]I took a 5 day side trip to BKK on my last 3 week trip to AC. Once I chatted a bit with the girls, I showed them a google translate of "I like you but I hate to use condoms. Will that be a problem?
I batted 1. 000 (7 out of 7 girls) with Nana Plaza girls and I Batted 0. 000 with the girls at Thermae (I must have asked 20 different girls and got turned down every time).[/QUOTE]You just got lucky in your Choices at Nana Plaza. 7 out of 7 is not normal. I think 5 out of 7 is closer to my experience. I don't waste my time in Thermae.
[QUOTE=ShadowJ;2896496]Once I chatted a bit with the girls, I showed them a google translate of "I like you but I hate to use condoms. Will that be a problem?[/QUOTE]With language troubles, I try to avoid complex questions that can be confusing. I'm more direct and simply ask "Will you do sex with no condom?" If I get a positive response I will clarify "Can I finish inside?" Even with those clarifications there are a few times that she resists in the room.
Sometimes there is a price differential between finish inside and finish outside. I recently had an unplanned encounter with a fun massage lady who allowed BBFS finish outside for 2500 and on that day she would not allow finish inside. A couple days later via line she offered CIP for 5000. Meanwhile, down the street some massage shops offer BBFSCIP for 2000 to 3000.
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2896556]You just got lucky in your Choices at Nana Plaza. 7 out of 7 is not normal. I think 5 out of 7 is closer to my experience. I don't waste my time in Thermae.[/QUOTE]I have been batting. 666 in Thermae.
Or send me a DM on black caviar. I spent my last trip confirming / establishing connections with mamas and papas I've known for years. Basically I wanted to see who survived covid. Didn't make it to black caviar but it's in the general vicinity of where the Lord used to be. Curious about the place but ran out of time (and will). The good days are long gone. I'm lucky if I can find one girl I'm interested in in Huai Kwang let alone any particular business. Damn the business, it's all about the product for me.
I have been to the pimp with local affluent Thais with high level memberships. Not my kind of place, music is loud, girls generally leave only with regulars but there are exceptions. Can't remember what it cost for a girl's time but I wasn't paying I was just using someone's membership for whatever I was drinking and for a girl I wasn't really interested in just because the people I was with had regulars that they were chatting up and I was a third wheel to both of them. Only thing I remember is the girl insisted on playing rock, paper, scissors about every 10 min. Weird as hell. We weren't playing for anything just bouncing our fists in our palms. Didn't speak much English either if I remember correctly.
[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2896248]Thanks for the reply. Yes, Maria looks on par with La Belle. I have been to Poseidon and Emmanuel in years past. They run lots of girls and offer good value, but certainly not luxury soapies comparable to The Lord. I have uncovered a place called Black Caviar which looks appealing that I will be checking out. I know there are many high-end places in Bangkok that just never get reported on. The G clubs in Bangkok are probably on my list to visit as well. I have never been to The Pimp but it looks like it is a lot of fun (if that place is still in business).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2896502]
Edit: just found another one where services include 'can lick my sister'[/QUOTE]Not 100% sure what that means, but I'm 100% sure it does not mean her sister will be there too and that you can lick her.
Probably it means you can be customer #9 that day to lick her pussy.
Over the past few weeks, Fiw Fans ladies are beginning to refuse foreigner customers. This has got to stop guys. Here is what I was told by one lady. Foreigners book sessions and never show up. Foreigners make first contact in line with no profile photo and refuse to share it, the ladies want some kind of identity verification for their safety. They send your photo to a friend or the booking agent saves it just in case you make a problem with the girl they booked you with. Foreigners have many questions and many demands and they talk too much. You guys need to understand something before you ruin the sideline game in Bangkok for foreigners. These girls have set up shop to find Thai customers. That is why the website is in Thai Language. It's not rocket science you. Why can't you guys understand this????? Their English will not be that good or even non existent. Second of all, the Thai pricing in Bangkok is roughly the same as the Farang prices in Pattaya for Fls. They are cheap. 900-1500ST. If you guys don't stop this nonsense, the prices will go up for us or Fiw Fans will be completely ruined for foreigners. Thai men just contact the girl, make the appointment and then go do the deed and then pay. Often paying first. Yes, that's right first. Paying first in the faring world of FLs is a no no, but sometimes with Fiw Fans you need to pay upfront. I have never been ripped off once. Why? Because you are in the girl's place. They won't cause trouble in their own rented hotel room or condo.
So, in summary, don't book the lady unless you are planning to go 100%. Don't talk too much and make demand after demand. These girls don't speak English. Get this through your thick heads! Its not rocket science. If they ask you to pay upfront, which they will if it's your first time booking the lady, pay it. Take the money out and put it on the side table. She even sent me screen shots of some of the stupid messages you guys send. They are actually ridiculous. Some of the English is even worse then what google translate spits out for the girls. Its really pathetic. This is the only website or forum I know where the guys know about Fiw Fans. The forums have no idea about this scene. If some do, it's very few in a limited capacity. That's why I know that you guys are the ones doing these things.
If you guys keep this nonsense up, be prepared to go back to the Bangkok Tinder, TF, or Thermae cafe freelancers and pay 3000ST instead of 900-1500 on Fiw Fans. It's your choice. Stop ruining this for everyone else. OMG.
[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2896627]Over the past few weeks, Fiw Fans ladies are beginning to refuse foreigner customers. This has got to stop guys. Here is what I was told by one lady. Foreigners book sessions and never show up. Foreigners make first contact in line with no profile photo and refuse to share it, the ladies want some kind of identity verification for their safety. They send your photo to a friend or the booking agent saves it just in case you make a problem with the girl they booked you with. Foreigners have many questions and many demands and they talk too much. You guys need to understand something before you ruin the sideline game in Bangkok for foreigners. These girls have set up shop to find Thai customers. That is why the website is in Thai Language. It's not rocket science you. Why can't you guys understand this????? Their English will not be that good or even non existent. Second of all, the Thai pricing in Bangkok is roughly the same as the Farang prices in Pattaya for Fls. They are cheap. 900-1500ST. If you guys don't stop this nonsense, the prices will go up for us or Fiw Fans will be completely ruined for foreigners. Thai men just contact the girl, make the appointment and then go do the deed and then pay. Often paying first. Yes, that's right first. Paying first in the faring world of FLs is a no no, but sometimes with Fiw Fans you need to pay upfront. I have never been ripped off once. Why? Because you are in the girl's place. They won't cause trouble in their own rented hotel room or condo.
So, in summary, don't book the lady unless you are planning to go 100%. Don't talk too much and make demand after demand. These girls don't speak English. Get this through your thick heads! Its not rocket science. If they ask you to pay upfront, which they will if it's your first time booking the lady, pay it. Take the money out and put it on the side table. She even sent me screen shots of some of the stupid messages you guys send. They are actually ridiculous. Some of the English is even worse then what google translate spits out for the girls. Its really pathetic. This is the only website or forum I know where the guys know about Fiw Fans. The forums have no idea about this scene. If some do, it's very few in a limited capacity. That's why I know that you guys are the ones doing these things.
If you guys keep this nonsense up, be prepared to go back to the Bangkok Tinder, TF, or Thermae cafe freelancers and pay 3000ST instead of 900-1500 on Fiw Fans. It's your choice. Stop ruining this for everyone else. OMG.[/QUOTE]I have never used Fiw Fans, nor do I ever plan to, but you come off annoying af in this post. You're complaining and whining about farangs who use Fiw Fans and how they should do business on a random site as if it will make a difference in terms of the very issue you bring up. I am guessing thousands of farang are using Fiw Fans and how many of those do you think are on this forum? Perhaps a hand full.
Shall be in BKK March 11 to 13. Please contact me if you want to monger together.
[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2896693]I have never used Fiw Fans, nor do I ever plan to, but you come off annoying af in this post. You're complaining and whining about farangs who use Fiw Fans and how they should do business on a random site as if it will make a difference in terms of the very issue you bring up. I am guessing thousands of farang are using Fiw Fans and how many of those do you think are on this forum? Perhaps a hand full.[/QUOTE]Everything he said in the initial post is correct. Bad behavior will ruin it for all foreigners. Yes, we are fishing in the locals pond when we are using fiwfans and we need to abide by the rules and courtesies there. I used it throughout covid and still do. Yes, if too many foreigners begin to use it and behave badly it will no longer be available to us. And I'm sorry, you can't compare what you see in Pattaya to what you see on fiwfans. Pattaya in my opinion is scraping the bottom of the barrel.
This is a Bangkok-only site isn't it? No way to filter for Pattaya (or no girls working with this platform in Pattaya).
[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2896693]I have never used Fiw Fans, nor do I ever plan to, but you come off annoying af in this post. You're complaining and whining about farangs who use Fiw Fans and how they should do business on a random site as if it will make a difference in terms of the very issue you bring up. I am guessing thousands of farang are using Fiw Fans and how many of those do you think are on this forum? Perhaps a hand full.[/QUOTE]I did not find EverythingThai's post as "annoying. " What I am hearing from him is the foreigner is entering into a local world, not respecting nor understanding how it functions, and negatively impacting other foreigners' participation in said local world. In other words, when in Rome, do as the Romans and don't fuck it up for the rest of us.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2896576]With language troubles, I try to avoid complex questions that can be confusing. I'm more direct and simply ask "Will you do sex with no condom?" If I get a positive response I will clarify "Can I finish inside?" Even with those clarifications there are a few times that she resists in the room.
Sometimes there is a price differential between finish inside and finish outside. I recently had an unplanned encounter with a fun massage lady who allowed BBFS finish outside for 2500 and on that day she would not allow finish inside. A couple days later via line she offered CIP for 5000. Meanwhile, down the street some massage shops offer BBFSCIP for 2000 to 3000.[/QUOTE]Yes, I agree that Lost In Translation issues are always possible if not probable if you are not direct, simple and crystal clear about it.
You know, I believe there is a built-in cause for a Lost In Translation issue in the way his question was framed; "I like you but I hate to use condoms. Will that be a problem"?
Which is why I asked if he took each of those 7 out of 7 Nana Plaza girls who apparently "agreed" to Bareback sex with him to see if they really meant what he thought they were agreeing to since that is one of those questions where a bad Translation might produce a "Yes" response that really means "No" and vice-versa.
If translated exactly and literally as written, a "Yes" response to that question or even just a nod literally means, "Yes, that would be a problem for me" while a "No" response or a shake of the head would literally mean, "No, that is not a problem for me. ".
Of course, it is statistically impossible that all 20 of the Thermae girls thought they were saying, "No, going Bareback with you is not a problem for me", unless he just happened upon the most desperate, needy, least often taken girls in the place. Or unless he is a recognizable member of a best-selling K-Pop Boy Band. LOL.
Regardless if her answer was "Yes" or "No", with a question put that way into a translation app, I would still want to rephrase the question another way, more simplified, to make sure she understood what I was asking and that I understood what her response meant before I paid the barfine or walked the girl back to my room.
[QUOTE=XXL;2896808]This is a Bangkok-only site isn't it? No way to filter for Pattaya (or no girls working with this platform in Pattaya).[/QUOTE]Thailand wide but most of the ladies are working in the Bangkok region. A couple in Chonburi province as a whole. Why not Pattaya? It's obvious why. They want Thai customers. Pattaya is dominated by foreigners not Thai people. They won't be working there if they want Thai customers. Why? Because of 2 major reasons. Almost 0 English ability. Number 2, they don't like the behavior of foreigners. I myself have been here for 14 years and speak fluent Thai. Therefore, I have been quite successful at using this site up until just a few days ago when the girls started refusing.
[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2896693]I have never used Fiw Fans, nor do I ever plan to, but you come off annoying af in this post. You're complaining and whining about farangs who use Fiw Fans and how they should do business on a random site as if it will make a difference in terms of the very issue you bring up. I am guessing thousands of farang are using Fiw Fans and how many of those do you think are on this forum? Perhaps a hand full.[/QUOTE]Then you have no idea. It's a website geared towards Thai customers, but in the recent months, members of this community are using it and 90% from this community. Very few other foreigners know about it. So, you have no idea and this post was not directed at you. Therefore, just ignore it. Simple. Where you are wrong is that you state that "Thousands of Farang are using Fiw Fans" You are dead wrong. You didn't read the post you are commenting on. Let me educate you again. This is a website for Thai people, not farangs. Most farangs look and give up after realizing the girls are not foreigner friendly and when they see the website is in Thai language only. Kindly read before commenting or kindly just move on if you have no idea. I belong to all the major mongering forums and discord platforms and people only talk about Fiw Fans here. You underestimate this platform. ISG does and will continue to have a large majority of the mongering guys on here. I know that most farang that know about Fiw fans found out about it on ISG. Some may have randomly came across it while searching online but until they learnt more on here, they would just pass it by because of Thai language.Thanks and sorry for the way I come across but what I say is absolutely true. Cheers.
[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2896627]Over the past few weeks, Fiw Fans ladies are beginning to refuse foreigners.
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Here is what I was told by one lady. Foreigners book sessions and never show up. Foreigners make first contact in line with no profile photo and refuse to share it, the ladies want some kind of identity verification for their safety. They send your photo to a friend or the booking agent saves it just in case you make a problem with the girl they booked you with. Foreigners have many questions and many demands and they talk too much.
[/QUOTE]Did she mean they talk too much in the room during the session or they talk too much on Line and with the booking agent?
If the latter, I would say these foreigners' behavior have all the earmarks of lonely dudes sitting in their home country at a computer screwing around just to amuse themselves and see what they can "negotiate" and for how much with no intention of ever leaving their home country or showing up to monger here or anywhere else.
Similar to some of the posers we find ourselves jousting and interact with here on this message board. LOL.
Sure, they probably heard about Fiwfans here. But asking real punters who actually show up to play and have 1,500-2,000 Baht that they would gladly part with for a good session with a young lovely who genuinely delivers and actually resembles her photo, to stop messing around with the girls in the way you described is probably targeting the wrong pool of members here.
And the likely culpable dudes I described above have nothing to lose even if their messing with it shuts Fiwfans down to "foreigners" from here to eternity. They are never going be here with 1,500 Baht in their pocket and a determination to spend it getting laid anyway.
Just sayin'.
[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2896842]Thailand wide but most of the ladies are working in the Bangkok region. A couple in Chonburi province as a whole. Why not Pattaya? It's obvious why. They want Thai customers. Pattaya is dominated by foreigners not Thai people. They won't be working there if they want Thai customers. Why? Because of 2 major reasons. Almost 0 English ability. Number 2, they don't like the behavior of foreigners. I myself have been here for 14 years and speak fluent Thai. Therefore, I have been quite successful at using this site up until just a few days ago when the girls started refusing.[/QUOTE]So basically you are saying us to stop using Fiwfans? : the.
Well that ain't going to happen anyways. Ofc I don't belong to those who mistreats or misbehave. But still I don't think you have the "right" to say me (or others) to not use this site.
I use, and will continue using it. Although I understand your issue, and even though I had zero contribution to that cause, I still feel bad about it. But if you're saying to stay completely out of it? Well that ain't going to happen.
Just because its in Thai, this doesn't mean its only for Thais. They do have preference to thai I can understand, that why they rejects, BUT they accepts also.
Infact, like you said, you are also not Thai but are using it right? So what about hypocrisy of restricting it to only Thai people? : the. Because learning a new languange is not that big of a deal.
But seems like you want to be ONLY foreigner who uses it ideally. HAHA not happening.
Secret. Bargirls do not talk about Farangs favorably. It's them saying it not me.
I do believe there a lot of Hot Girls who would rather make less and not deal with Rowdy Foreigners.
Do Asians get turned down at Rainbows? Yes but nowhere near the rate farangs and Brownies get turned down.
No offense but in a high class joint like Rainbow 5 I often see Fatangs groping for the price of 1 drink. Come on groping price is 40 drinks.
[QUOTE=TiredOf;2896868]So basically you are saying us to stop using Fiwfans? : the.
Well that ain't going to happen anyways. Ofc I don't belong to those who mistreats or misbehave. But still I don't think you have the "right" to say me (or others) to not use this site.
I use, and will continue using it. Although I understand your issue, and even though I had zero contribution to that cause, I still feel bad about it. But if you're saying to stay completely out of it? Well that ain't going to happen.
Just because its in Thai, this doesn't mean its only for Thais. They do have preference to thai I can understand, that why they rejects, BUT they accepts also.
Infact, like you said, you are also not Thai but are using it right? So what about hypocrisy of restricting it to only Thai people? : the. Because learning a new languange is not that big of a deal.
But seems like you want to be ONLY foreigner who uses it ideally. HAHA not happening.[/QUOTE]I think you've misunderstood what EverthingThai is saying. Nowhere does he say anyone should stop using Fiwfans. He is simply saying that those who do use it should not cause problems for others by being too demanding, rude, disrespectful, and not understanding how the girls / agents work. It's pretty straightforward really; I've used the site without any problem, just follow the rules and enjoy.
Do any of you know why there is a farang surcharge in most places in Thailand. I'm not just talking about pfp. Pretty much anywhere prices aren't posted.
If you think it's because they think you're from a wealthy country and can afford it or your member is too big, you are dead wrong. It's because farangs (meaning almost anybody on the planet other than Koreans and Japanese) are demanding sometimes (very) specific acts and ruining the experience asking for guarantees of x or why. I have heard this over and over again for 20+ years from girls and mamas.
The simple fact is, what a girl wants or likes to do is up to her. Making requests or demands is seen as a negative right after the offensive smell of a particular group of people.
Thais have a go with the flow attitude, if you speak it, their language is simple, they don't generally have have a large number of adjectives and qualifiers that lead to disputes or litigation. When two parties agree in principle to a transaction it's almost always mai pen rai after that.
The OP about fiwfans is mostly correct when in Rome. Save the "I'm paying therefore I get what I want" attitude for your home country. Whatever perversion you're looking for probably has a business that caters to such. It's better to go there than ask the run of the mill sideliner if they take it in the ass with no condom while gagged and handcuffed.
Heed these words (or don't) I don't care. The farang surcharge isn't going anywhere.
[QUOTE=SiamMan;2897008]I think you've misunderstood what EverthingThai is saying. Nowhere does he say anyone should stop using Fiwfans. He is simply saying that those who do use it should not cause problems for others by being too demanding, rude, disrespectful, and not understanding how the girls / agents work. It's pretty straightforward really; I've used the site without any problem, just follow the rules and enjoy.[/QUOTE]I agree with EverythingThai. Fiwfans is a good way to meet decent girls. I have met a few who speak ok-ish english and a couple of girls who did'nt even understand a word of english but were fun to be with. I have noticed some girls have 'no farang / no Indian' on their Fiwfans page. It did feel weird and racist at first until I cleared things up with a cool fiwfans girl I met afterwards. This is the explanation she gave in her words -"Some fight want no condom" "Indian want discount" "Some girls need treat like queen but farang cannot" "But you Indian are good and smell nice". Her honesty made me add 200 THB to my original 200 THB tip.
We need to understand that a few bad apples on either side spoil it for the rest of us. As a foreigner in any country we should strive to be polite, respect each others space, culture and set a good example.
[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2896954]Secret. Bargirls do not talk about Farangs favorably. It's them saying it not me.
I do believe there a lot of Hot Girls who would rather make less and not deal with Rowdy Foreigners.
Do Asians get turned down at Rainbows? Yes but nowhere near the rate farangs and Brownies get turned down.
No offense but in a high class joint like Rainbow 5 I often see Fatangs groping for the price of 1 drink. Come on groping price is 40 drinks.[/QUOTE]Rainbow 5 high class? My man, no establishment in Nana or Cowboy is high class. The gents clubs frequented by the locals with money would probably be a little closer to high class.
So in a gogo bar expecting a little fondle for a drink is not at all out of the question, especially considering the prices of the drinks.
[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2896954]Secret. Bargirls do not talk about Farangs favorably. It's them saying it not me.
I do believe there a lot of Hot Girls who would rather make less and not deal with Rowdy Foreigners.
Do Asians get turned down at Rainbows? Yes but nowhere near the rate farangs and Brownies get turned down.
No offense but in a high class joint like Rainbow 5 I often see Fatangs groping for the price of 1 drink. Come on groping price is 40 drinks.[/QUOTE]The girls inThermae talk about me so I always have to be on my best behavior as I have a reputation to uphold. On the other hand, because they talk about me and I always uphold my reputation, I get the pic of the litter there so to speak. I guess 30 years of attendance in the same brothel counts for something. Just as an aside, the boss told me that they're going on 27 years in this location.
On Sunday night, the stroll was 99% ladyboys. Most of the genetic girls I see on the stroll we're missing. Rainbow five or four, the one not in the corner, was dead. The lineup at billboard was weak. There was some hotties at bunnies on the main floor but my usual Mama son wasn't there so I passed. I did not stroll soy Nana. I did notice there is still a paucity of deaf girls.
For you true pervs out there there's a midget ladyboy with the deaf girls. I apologize to the admin in advance for even mentioning that, but it is way too unique to not be commented upon. Although I've had a midget or two in Bangkok, I would of course draw the at that point although some of you won't.
The Nepalese dude on the corner of soy Arab was packing some fabulous buds coated in crushed diamonds. Quite potent, and he'll negotiate. Don't even think about buying it from a store, the stand in MBK Center was selling the same product for it 3,000 Baht a gram. Yeah, right, head down to Soi Arab.
I hit the upload button before I could finish my previous report.
Although I did not go down soy Nana on Sunday night, I did not see schoolgirl anywhere near the Plaza or on Suk.
The hordes of Suk corner African men are gone. I saw a few African girls walking, they were pretty hideous. Perhaps the men have gone way down deep in the soy Nana.
The birria at Margarita storm is fantastic.
The Galleria 10 Hotel pays no attention to girls coming back with you. It's not a bad Hotel reasonably priced clean and right down the street across the stairs from Thermae.
Attention my Indian brethren who read this forum and are a bit more sophisticated. Please tell your countrymen not to hold hands while walking down the street. That's only acceptable in Silom.
[QUOTE=XXL;2896808]This is a Bangkok-only site isn't it? No way to filter for Pattaya (or no girls working with this platform in Pattaya).[/QUOTE]It is not a bkk only site but there seems to be a lot more available in BKK. I used it last year when I was in pattaya. On other forums I also saw people giving reviews for other places too like I believe Chiang mai. You can filter by province / city after you translate the page to english.
[QUOTE=TiredOf;2896868]So basically you are saying us to stop using Fiwfans? : the.
Well that ain't going to happen anyways. Ofc I don't belong to those who mistreats or misbehave. But still I don't think you have the "right" to say me (or others) to not use this site.
I use, and will continue using it. Although I understand your issue, and even though I had zero contribution to that cause, I still feel bad about it. But if you're saying to stay completely out of it? Well that ain't going to happen.
Just because its in Thai, this doesn't mean its only for Thais. They do have preference to thai I can understand, that why they rejects, BUT they accepts also.
Infact, like you said, you are also not Thai but are using it right? So what about hypocrisy of restricting it to only Thai people? : the. Because learning a new languange is not that big of a deal.
But seems like you want to be ONLY foreigner who uses it ideally. HAHA not happening.[/QUOTE]You sound a bit like one of those people EverythingThai, complains about. Farangs who create arguments because they don't understand what was said and talk too much.
It is indeed disappointing if there are now idiots from here running around that will end up ruining it for the rest of us.
[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2896627]Over the past few weeks, Fiw Fans ladies are beginning to refuse foreigner customers. This has got to stop guys.
Second of all, the Thai pricing in Bangkok is roughly the same as the Farang prices in Pattaya for Fls. They are cheap. 900-1500ST. If you guys don't stop this nonsense, the prices will go up for us or Fiw Fans will be completely ruined for foreigners.[/QUOTE]It's funny when you're in Pattaya you're ready to blow thousands of bahts on random girls coming from the bottom of the barrel of what Thailand has to offer according to many on this site, and like to call every other people cheap charlies, and then come and complain on the Bangkok thread that others are fucking up your secret garden 1000 bahts girls.
[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2896627]This is the only website or forum I know where the guys know about Fiw Fans. The forums have no idea about this scene. If some do, it's very few in a limited capacity. That's why I know that you guys are the ones doing these things.
Stop ruining this for everyone else. OMG.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2896843]Then you have no idea. It's a website geared towards Thai customers, but in the recent months, members of this community are using it and 90% from this community. Very few other foreigners know about it. So, you have no idea and this post was not directed at you. Therefore, just ignore it. Simple. Where you are wrong is that you state that "Thousands of Farang are using Fiw Fans" You are dead wrong. You didn't read the post you are commenting on. Let me educate you again. This is a website for Thai people, not farangs. Most farangs look and give up after realizing the girls are not foreigner friendly and when they see the website is in Thai language only. Kindly read before commenting or kindly just move on if you have no idea. I belong to all the major mongering forums and discord platforms and people only talk about Fiw Fans here. You underestimate this platform. ISG does and will continue to have a large majority of the mongering guys on here. I know that most farang that know about Fiw fans found out about it on ISG. Some may have randomly came across it while searching online but until they learnt more on here, they would just pass it by because of Thai language.Thanks and sorry for the way I come across but what I say is absolutely true. Cheers.[/QUOTE]Well, maybe you're the one who is wrong after all, because other forum have more references to Fiw Fans than ISG, with detailed reports which are very sparse here.
You're probably giving too much power to ISG. How do I know? Post a picture and see how many views you get, barely 200.
You're not touching millions of people by posting here, besides, references to Fiw Fans on this site can go back years ago, not only months or weeks.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2897178]It's funny when you're in Pattaya you're ready to blow thousands of bahts on random girls coming from the bottom of the barrel of what Thailand has to offer according to many on this site, and like to call every other people cheap charlies, and then come and complain on the Bangkok thread that others are fucking up your secret garden 1000 bahts girls.
Well, maybe you're the one who is wrong after all, because other forum have more references to Fiw Fans than ISG, with detailed reports which are very sparse here.
You're probably giving too much power to ISG. How do I know? Post a picture and see how many views you get, barely 200.
You're not touching millions of people by posting here, besides, references to Fiw Fans on this site can go back years ago, not only months or weeks.[/QUOTE]Where did I say that Fiw Fans is my secret garden of 1000 Baht girls? I have used this site for many years, especially during covid. I like it because the girls are hot. Actually, I pay them more than they advertise one their profiles, as I ask for more service. Hope you are educated now. I don't use this site fore the prices. I use it for the hot Thai girls. The hot white skinned girls that I can't find in Pattaya as easily. Next ............... But thanks for coming out.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2896847]Did she mean they talk too much in the room during the session or they talk too much on Line and with the booking agent?
If the latter, I would say these foreigners' behavior have all the earmarks of lonely dudes sitting in their home country at a computer screwing around just to amuse themselves and see what they can "negotiate" and for how much with no intention of ever leaving their home country or showing up to monger here or anywhere else.
Similar to some of the posers we find ourselves jousting and interact with here on this message board. LOL.
Sure, they probably heard about Fiwfans here. But asking real punters who actually show up to play and have 1,500-2,000 Baht that they would gladly part with for a good session with a young lovely who genuinely delivers and actually resembles her photo, to stop messing around with the girls in the way you described is probably targeting the wrong pool of members here.
And the likely culpable dudes I described above have nothing to lose even if their messing with it shuts Fiwfans down to "foreigners" from here to eternity. They are never going be here with 1,500 Baht in their pocket and a determination to spend it getting laid anyway.
Just sayin'.[/QUOTE]The last 3 I chatted with that refused service to foreigners in relation to talking too much is that they wanted to chat and chat in line before. They would ask so many questions and try to bargain the price down. For example, the girl asks 1500 baht and they would ask for 1300 baht and no condom. Then ask shit about will the girl do this and that. What these girls want is a guy that is serious to book them and not talking and talking about krap. Their English is already minimum or non existence. It's a waste of their time. One said that she had to chat for an hour off and on with a farang just to get 1, 30 minute booking for 1200 Baht. Then he cancelled twice before showing up.
[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2897376]The last 3 I chatted with that refused service to foreigners in relation to talking too much is that they wanted to chat and chat in line before. They would ask so many questions and try to bargain the price down. For example, the girl asks 1500 baht and they would ask for 1300 baht and no condom. Then ask shit about will the girl do this and that. What these girls want is a guy that is serious to book them and not talking and talking about krap. Their English is already minimum or non existence. It's a waste of their time. One said that she had to chat for an hour off and on with a farang just to get 1, 30 minute booking for 1200 Baht. Then he cancelled twice before showing up.[/QUOTE]That was me. LOL. Hahaha. I please Guilty as Charged. LOL. Hahaha.
Goat,
What's so good about The gents clubs frequented by the locals with money?
I understand BKK locals have venues where recruiters bring in new fresh young girls from the country. After a few years the girls grow older, hardened and are sent to farang bars.
Looking to expand this topic as I'm not interested in possibly visiting Maria? La Belle? Apologies if I'm not getting the establishment names correctly. I avoided Poseidon from what I could tell was "lower quality. " Black Caviar wanted me to pay a "membership fee" but since I selected doubles in the highest tier they upgraded me to the luxury suites. Easily some of the most beautiful girls that I preferred (minimal plastic surgery. Also spoke good English and service was top notch. The only drawback was I had to travel there during non peak hours and it was a pain in the ass. I plan to visit there at the beginning of my trip and try to secure lines. If anyone else has been to other places with similar level girls lmk. Thanks all.
[QUOTE=FilthyBeaver;2896599]Or send me a DM on black caviar. I spent my last trip confirming / establishing connections with mamas and papas I've known for years. Basically I wanted to see who survived covid. Didn't make it to black caviar but it's in the general vicinity of where the Lord used to be. Curious about the place but ran out of time (and will). The good days are long gone. I'm lucky if I can find one girl I'm interested in in Huai Kwang let alone any particular business. Damn the business, it's all about the product for me.
I have been to the pimp with local affluent Thais with high level memberships. Not my kind of place, music is loud, girls generally leave only with regulars but there are exceptions. Can't remember what it cost for a girl's time but I wasn't paying I was just using someone's membership for whatever I was drinking and for a girl I wasn't really interested in just because the people I was with had regulars that they were chatting up and I was a third wheel to both of them. Only thing I remember is the girl insisted on playing rock, paper, scissors about every 10 min. Weird as hell. We weren't playing for anything just bouncing our fists in our palms. Didn't speak much English either if I remember correctly.[/QUOTE]
Maria is not for me. I feel all girls have had face surgery to appeal to Koreans. Boring lounge. Sat around for an hour and saw dozens of girls but didn't monger.
Poseidon I find trusty. I always find something there. Mostly I pick up one model girl and talk to her about a joiner. Most of the time that ends up in a 3 some.
I like Pimp. I feel it's best to go there single, get a cabin for me + 3 girls. In the lineup pick 3 girls and go in room to party. Drink, a little dancing, bras off. I have the two I like best sit on either side of me and chat them up while fondling their butts and study their breasts. Then barfine my fav or favs and leave. I see no reason to go there to party with other guys. I love checking in to a hotel nearby with two Pimp girls. Only problem is that all are drunk. It has occurred that one girl fell asleep in the bathroom while I fuck #1. When done with #1 I swap her for the girl in the bathroom. LOL. Only drawbacks is that there is too much alcohol at Pimp.
I think LaBelle is a bit boring but good location. Easiest to reach from Sukhumwit and I've had some quality there.
[QUOTE=NovaThings;2897521]Looking to expand this topic as I'm not interested in possibly visiting Maria? La Belle? Apologies if I'm not getting the establishment names correctly. I avoided Poseidon from what I could tell was "lower quality. " Black Caviar wanted me to pay a "membership fee" but since I selected doubles in the highest tier they upgraded me to the luxury suites. Easily some of the most beautiful girls that I preferred (minimal plastic surgery. Also spoke good English and service was top notch. The only drawback was I had to travel there during non peak hours and it was a pain in the ass. I plan to visit there at the beginning of my trip and try to secure lines. If anyone else has been to other places with similar level girls lmk. Thanks all.[/QUOTE]
Next Bkk trip I'd like to appoint a "guide" who takes care of setting me up with girls:
- Provide me a menu of listed girls verified by the consultant and OF models that I have selected and the guide has secured contact with.
- From the list I select a few I like to meet.
- I will indicate hotel and time for the encounter.
- The consultant brings the girl there and checks her in. She notifies my that all is ready.
- I go to the hotel and see the girl.
Maybe I just have to find a girl I trust and ask her to help. But if you guys know of someone or some services that do the above, please let me know. I'd be ok with a lady that I sometimes have sex with, but that she also works for me, finding new material and helps with admin.
Reason for all this is that I feel my mongering could be at least twice as efficient, time wise. I'd like more time on other stuff and a very high percentage of interaction of the time I spend looking for girls and setting up encounters.
This was from the end of last year. Planning the next trip and realize I haven't reported on the last one.
3 weeks split between BKK, HCMC, and Phuket.
Had built a network on insta from past years. Put up a few posts indicating I was looking to bring someone with me to HCMC / Phuket and had many girls interested. I ended up spending most of my time in BKK interviewing candidates. Ended up taking one girl with me to HCMC and another to Phuket. Less time was spent on MPs / Gogos / sidelines this time around. TLDR it feels like almost a the tourism is back, maybe less Chinese compared to pre COVID. Prices are up across the board and value proposition has gone down, but BKK is still king when it comes to volume and accessibility. In terms of quality, apps = gogo sidelines MP. In terms of value, sidelines apps gogo = MP.
Redeye EVA arriving in the afternoon and was ready to hit the ground running. Stayed at Sheraton Grande and was upgraded to a suite at just Marriott Plat during high season which was a pleasant surprise. This was the 3rd year in a row at Sheraton and reception mentioned it so they may keep track and upgrade based on returning stays. I spent the first couple of days interviewing dates and going through Insta, Tinder, and Tantan during the downtime. I indicated on both TanTan and Tinder that I was on vacation and looking for someone to travel with me. Had tons of matches on both but way more FLs on TanTan than Tinder. I didn't cold DM anyone on Insta but had a couple mutuals reach out who were interested. I did hit up Addict and Dokidoki but decided they weren't worth it anymore. They're convenient and you know what you're getting but the quality of the girls just can't compete. Still good if you want a quick nut but not much else imo. Also hit up Cowboy on a night when I had a cancel and the place was back to pre COVID levels. Prices were up but it looks like the quality of the talent has also improved compared to last year. Still fun to mess around especially if you're willing to ball out a bit. I've found that building rapport with the mamasan over repeated visits is generally a good strategy to get quality girls but since I wasn't planning on repeating this year I didn't barfine anyone.
Had over a dozen dates over 7 days. I did ST meets for anywhere between 2 to 5 k bht and repeated LT with ones I was interested in for between 5 and 10 k bht. Narrowed down to 2 girls both from Insta. One was a favorite from past years I planned on bringing with me to Phuket but her attitude went downhill when I bought her the flight. Wasn't going to deal with that so I told her she was out and went with a girl from TanTan instead. Once the plan was settled I filled the last two days with sideline girls and other FLs from apps. Also went to Thermae one night and the place was packed, but nothing caught my eye. Overall there's definitely more variance in terms of performance when it comes to FLs compared to MPs, soapies and sideline girls. Dangling a carrot can encourage better performance, although it does come with the cost.
Spent 4 days in HCMC with the TanTan girl and stayed at Vinpearl Landmark 81. Location wasn't great but she was very impressed with the view. Great GFE the entire trip, tours during the day and multiple rounds of BBFS CIP every morning and night. Getting sucked off watching the sunrise from the 62nd floor was quite the experience. Ended up being 35 k bht, she decided to pay for her own flight. Went directly from HCMC to Phuket and flew the second girl out to join me for 6 days. Split time between Phuket Marriott Resort and Naka Island. Upgraded to a villa at both places. Phuket Marriott Resort was strangely very empty although there was some construction noise. Naka Island was out of the way but very secluded and peaceful. Another great performance from my girl. She had insisted on using condoms but I decided to bring her anyways since she was gorgeous and we clicked well. Over the 6 days we progressed to BBFS and then CIP. Gave her 50 k bht plus round trip ticket from BKK.
Returned to BKK for 3 days. The girl I ditched for Phuket hit me up and told me she was sorry for giving me attitude and wanted to make it up to me. I gave her a chance and she played the submissive **** role well. No price was discussed but I gave her 5 k for the LT. Also met up with another girl from a past trip who was a student and wasn't able to join me in Phuket because of her studies. Took her for two overnights and gave her 10 k each night. During the day I went back to fiwfans, the price hasn't really changed since the past year but saw less knock outs this year than the last, although the price still can't be beat for the quality of the service. I did notice that many agencies have English speaking operators and can recommend English speaking sisters, which is a nice plus.
Overall another great trip albeit the most expensive one I've had yet. Even then it's still better than the States. I would say FLs are a high risk high reward option, but for me anyways the hunt is half the fun. You can't really go wrong with sideline girls and MPs in BKK and those are readily available. Gogos take a bit of patience and experience, and you'll get burned if you're not careful, same with FLs, although I've gotten better performance from FLs and non pros than my barfines over the past few years. This year I'm planning to expand my horizons a bit, have a trip to the Philippines planned and looking at a potential trip to MDE as well.
Thanks for feedback. To avoid any confusion I meant to type I am interested in going to Maria or LE belle. If LE belle is easier to access than I might try there first as well. Regarding PIMP, my only apprehension was the head Palawan said only some girls will leave. I assume money talks. Did anyone try for action in the private suite or is that frowned upon? I wanted to try a private suite but it was a 4 - 5 girl minimum and I've noticed if you don't have the right blend of girls, then some may be more apprehensive then alone. I had this happen at red dragon where I found the right core group of girls and my main girl would select the best girls to my liking. I think I might try LE belle, black caviar, and then pimp at least once.
Appreciate any other experiences who may have gone to La belle, pimp, Poseidon, and Maria.
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=BHawk;2897823]Maria is not for me. I feel all girls have had face surgery to appeal to Koreans. Boring lounge. Sat around for an hour and saw dozens of girls but didn't monger.
Poseidon I find trusty. I always find something there. Mostly I pick up one model girl and talk to her about a joiner. Most of the time that ends up in a 3 some.
I like Pimp. I feel it's best to go there single, get a cabin for me + 3 girls. In the lineup pick 3 girls and go in room to party. Drink, a little dancing, bras off. I have the two I like best sit on either side of me and chat them up while fondling their butts and study their breasts. Then barfine my fav or favs and leave. I see no reason to go there to party with other guys. I love checking in to a hotel nearby with two Pimp girls. Only problem is that all are drunk. It has occurred that one girl fell asleep in the bathroom while I fuck #1. When done with #1 I swap her for the girl in the bathroom. LOL. Only drawbacks is that there is too much alcohol at Pimp.
I think LaBelle is a bit boring but good location. Easiest to reach from Sukhumwit and I've had some quality there.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BHawk;2897826]Next Bkk trip I'd like to appoint a "guide" who takes care of setting me up with girls:
- Provide me a menu of listed girls verified by the consultant and OF models that I have selected and the guide has secured contact with.
- From the list I select a few I like to meet.
- I will indicate hotel and time for the encounter.
- The consultant brings the girl there and checks her in. She notifies my that all is ready.
- I go to the hotel and see the girl.
Maybe I just have to find a girl I trust and ask her to help. But if you guys know of someone or some services that do the above, please let me know. I'd be ok with a lady that I sometimes have sex with, but that she also works for me, finding new material and helps with admin.
Reason for all this is that I feel my mongering could be at least twice as efficient, time wise. I'd like more time on other stuff and a very high percentage of interaction of the time I spend looking for girls and setting up encounters.[/QUOTE]Girl Guides of Thailand org. Near Victory Monument area.
[QUOTE=NovaThings;2897907]Regarding PIMP, my only apprehension was the head Palawan said only some girls will leave. I assume money talks. Did anyone try for action in the private suite or is that frowned upon? I wanted to try a private suite but it was a 4 - 5 girl minimum and I've noticed if you don't have the right blend of girls, then some may be more apprehensive then alone.[/QUOTE]Guess some days the smaller rooms are taken. My room one time would hardly have fit 5 + me. Me + 3 was just right.
More serious action in vip rooms is not on the menu. And you'll never get an official yes to that. That's all I am going to say. Never had a barfine rejected at pimp, but my experience is limited. One girl hesitated due to a modeling job the day after but luckily I convinced her. Best sex ever with a Thai girl. She was such a stunner. When I close my eyes I still see her amazing body and super smile in front of me. A classic Thai model that I'd keep & even have a child with if I could. Yummy.
I will be flying to BKK next month in April & this will be my third short visit to the city of angels. Will be staying at Soi 4 Nana, I know there are tons of those tiny massage shops in every nook & corner of the city but any recommendations in particular for a good shop near Soi 4 Nana where I can get FS with some good looking birds. You know those shops where the women sit outside holding up flyers beckoning passers by to come in. I guess these are called "oilies". Not too sure. What would be the approx. Prices I need to watch out for; I know most of these shops charge around 400-600 THB for just the massage.
I went to Bangkok alone for a week. I stayed at Raumuchitt hotel. It is a good location between Nana plaza and soi cowboy, and near Thermae and the train. There is a short time hotel here for Thermae, so lots of traffic. And with Thermae next door, if you get a girl, it is a short walk to the hotel.
First night, I ordered an outcall massage to my room. Fa massage. Good girl, she wanted 4000 b for sex. After just an ok massage, I said what the hell and paid it and gave her the business. I love it when a girl loses control. This girl was young and horny and loved the sex. She gave me a robust kiss while I pounded her in mish.
Everyday I would walk around sukhumvit road. Being over 50, I really have to conserve my nuts so I can perform when I want to. But with boredom, I would go get a massage, and they seem to all lead to more. I purposely went to a professional spa for a massage, and the girl offered me a 1000 b HJ or 2000 b for BBBJ. I got the BJ, and she was toothy, so I had her kneel and came in her mouth. How wonderful BKK is!!
I tried an online escort service with beautiful pics of russian / european girls. I purposely told them to not send a girl if her pics were not real. They promised they were. They had me give them my name and room number in my hotel. They sent the girl, she comes to my room, and it was NOT the same girl. She was older, fake tits and lips, and not young. So dissapointing. What a mistake. And an expensive one 7500 b. I didn't want drama so I let her in, and she was an ok girl, with a good BBBJ, but wouldn't allow DATY, not that I wanted it with her, and complained about the sex lasting too long. The other online russian girl escort service I found online was flaky and didn't respond to LINE texts for long periods of time. They promised the pics were real too, but I didn't trust them. What a lesson learned. If its too good to be true, it is. Hot and young russians for 7500 when the hot russians on massagerepublic are asking for 10,000 b or more. So it was a big scam. I do trust massagerepublic more.
Walking around town, I was dissappointed with the quality of the girls. Most are old with plastic faces and often giant fake boobs. This goes for massage parlors, nana plaza and soi cowboy bars and even high end massage places. So dissapointing. If you want hotties, you are looking at massagerepublic and 8000 k or more an hour.
I saw a cute girl outside a massage parlor, and said ok, then she took me inside to an older lady, and I said, no I want you, and she said she isn't a masseuse, so I walked. Bait and switch.
I saw another nice girl hawking massage at a parlor for 500 b, so I said ok, and then she said I had to get the 1000 b HJ so I said no. They usually get you hot during the massage then ask for the HJ, but she didn't want to take the chance you said no.
Often the hottest girls you will see are the european tourist women walking around. There are hotties working at Hooters and I tried to flirt with them, but they werent having it, they know what is up.
I had a few boxes to check (ie sex I wanted to try). I tried Analisa milking table massage with 2 girls which was ok. Older and flabby girls, but still fun.
I also wanted to try Madame Claude BJ and got the chocolate BJ which was fun.
I tried 7-heaven BJ and it was good but expensive. Better looking girls.
I tried upper end Nuru at 666 nuru spa, and it had average girls, and the one I chose didn't allow DATY and was afraid to BBBJ to completion as she didn't want CIM. I said I would tell her when I was to cum, but she said no. So I didn't even cum, and went to 7-heaven for a BJ. The beauty of Bkk where the options are endless.
The highlight of the trip was Thermae with my hotel so close by. Out of 50+ girls, there are usually a cute one or two in the lot that look good to me. And you can chat them up to be sure they are fun / sane / nice etc. I got 2 good ones out of there on separate occasions. There are young stunners there but I didn't try. One couldn't speak anything but Thai, so she just held up 3 fingers to all the chinease / korean guys that came up to her (3000 b). Big attitude. Guys just walked away. The 2 I took were both wonderful young and fun girls that loved the sex. So fun and affordable at 3000 b. And you get to check them out before you take them. So fun and wonderful. All for an 80 b drink when you walk in.
I tried to set up dinner dates with both girls I took for the next night. Both flaked but wanted to meet me for another shag, not dinner.
The young, tight, cute chix at Thermae are just as hot as the 8000 p+ girls off of massagerepublic and you get to chat them up first to see if they are really interested. If she isn't, don't take her.
All in all, it was a great trip, and Bkk is a great sex town. And now a weed town, wow are there alot of pot stores. And a low stress place. Few beggars or salesmen. Check out Nana plaze, Soi Cowboy, nuru and BJ shops, but the best deal in town is Thermae.
[QUOTE=VickyCooper;2898164]I will be flying to BKK next month in April & this will be my third short visit to the city of angels. Will be staying at Soi 4 Nana, I know there are tons of those tiny massage shops in every nook & corner of the city but any recommendations in particular for a good shop near Soi 4 Nana where I can get FS with some good looking birds. You know those shops where the women sit outside holding up flyers beckoning passers by to come in. I guess these are called "oilies". Not too sure. What would be the approx. Prices I need to watch out for; I know most of these shops charge around 400-600 THB for just the massage.[/QUOTE]Shops that look high class with a concierge and nice furnishings will charge 800 p or more for the massage. Most girls here will offer extras. Imagining getting extras in the US at a real massage shop. Not going to happen.
BJ or Nuru shops are everywhere. Read 20 pages or more of this thread to get their names. Walk by and see if there are any girls you like. Don't trust the website pics. Often the girls don't work there or are much different than their pics. Even the upper class / expensive shops have old and plastic girls working. There are a few alleys with many massage shops (the alley where snow white is for example). Walk through until you see a good girl out front and take her in the shop.
Many BJ or massage or Nuru shops have websites with prices so read the thread, then Google the shop to get the prices.
If you go to a normal massage place, for 500-800 b per hour, expect an offer for HJ for 1000 b or BJ for 2000 b. The girl will be disappointed if you don't get it as that is how she makes her money.
[QUOTE=VicVeg;2898236] This girl was young and horny and loved the sex.[/QUOTE]Or possibly, she was a good actress.
[QUOTE=VicVeg;2898236]I went to Bangkok alone for a week. I stayed at Raumuchitt hotel. It is a good location between Nana plaza and soi cowboy, and near Thermae and the train. There is a short time hotel here for Thermae, so lots of traffic. And with Thermae next door, if you get a girl, it is a short walk to the hotel.
First night, I ordered an outcall massage to my room. Fa massage. Good girl, she wanted 4000 b for sex. After just an ok massage, I said what the hell and paid it and gave her the business. I love it when a girl loses control. This girl was young and horny and loved the sex. She gave me a robust kiss while I pounded her in mish.
Everyday I would walk around sukhumvit road. Being over 50, I really have to conserve my nuts so I can perform when I want to. But with boredom, I would go get a massage, and they seem to all lead to more. I purposely went to a professional spa for a massage, and the girl offered me a 1000 b HJ or 2000 b for BBBJ. I got the BJ, and she was toothy, so I had her kneel and came in her mouth. How wonderful BKK is!!
I tried an online escort service with beautiful pics of russian / european girls. I purposely told them to not send a girl if her pics were not real. They promised they were. They had me give them my name and room number in my hotel. They sent the girl, she comes to my room, and it was NOT the same girl. She was older, fake tits and lips, and not young. So dissapointing. What a mistake. And an expensive one 7500 b. I didn't want drama so I let her in, and she was an ok girl, with a good BBBJ, but wouldn't allow DATY, not that I wanted it with her, and complained about the sex lasting too long. The other online russian girl escort service I found online was flaky and didn't respond to LINE texts for long periods of time. They promised the pics were real too, but I didn't trust them. What a lesson learned. If its too good to be true, it is. Hot and young russians for 7500 when the hot russians on massagerepublic are asking for 10,000 b or more. So it was a big scam. I do trust massagerepublic more.
Walking around town, I was dissappointed with the quality of the girls. Most are old with plastic faces and often giant fake boobs. This goes for massage parlors, nana plaza and soi cowboy bars and even high end massage places. So dissapointing. If you want hotties, you are looking at massagerepublic and 8000 k or more an hour.
I saw a cute girl outside a massage parlor, and said ok, then she took me inside to an older lady, and I said, no I want you, and she said she isn't a masseuse, so I walked. Bait and switch.
I saw another nice girl hawking massage at a parlor for 500 b, so I said ok, and then she said I had to get the 1000 b HJ so I said no. They usually get you hot during the massage then ask for the HJ, but she didn't want to take the chance you said no.
Often the hottest girls you will see are the european tourist women walking around. There are hotties working at Hooters and I tried to flirt with them, but they werent having it, they know what is up.
I had a few boxes to check (ie sex I wanted to try). I tried Analisa milking table massage with 2 girls which was ok. Older and flabby girls, but still fun.
I also wanted to try Madame Claude BJ and got the chocolate BJ which was fun.
I tried 7-heaven BJ and it was good but expensive. Better looking girls.
I tried upper end Nuru at 666 nuru spa, and it had average girls, and the one I chose didn't allow DATY and was afraid to BBBJ to completion as she didn't want CIM. I said I would tell her when I was to cum, but she said no. So I didn't even cum, and went to 7-heaven for a BJ. The beauty of Bkk where the options are endless.
The highlight of the trip was Thermae with my hotel so close by. Out of 50+ girls, there are usually a cute one or two in the lot that look good to me. And you can chat them up to be sure they are fun / sane / nice etc. I got 2 good ones out of there on separate occasions. There are young stunners there but I didn't try. One couldn't speak anything but Thai, so she just held up 3 fingers to all the chinease / korean guys that came up to her (3000 b). Big attitude. Guys just walked away. The 2 I took were both wonderful young and fun girls that loved the sex. So fun and affordable at 3000 b. And you get to check them out before you take them. So fun and wonderful. All for an 80 b drink when you walk in.
I tried to set up dinner dates with both girls I took for the next night. Both flaked but wanted to meet me for another shag, not dinner.
The young, tight, cute chix at Thermae are just as hot as the 8000 p+ girls off of massagerepublic and you get to chat them up first to see if they are really interested. If she isn't, don't take her.
All in all, it was a great trip, and Bkk is a great sex town. And now a weed town, wow are there alot of pot stores. And a low stress place. Few beggars or salesmen. Check out Nana plaze, Soi Cowboy, nuru and BJ shops, but the best deal in town is Thermae.[/QUOTE]Your best statement is " The young, tight, cute chix at Thermae are just as hot as the 8000 p+ girls off of massagerepublic and you get to chat them up first to see if they are really interested".
Not that I rave about Thermae but I see crazy guys go to NEP pay 7/8/9000 for something they could get for 3 or 4 and "possibly" a better performance.
Leave the NEP bars for the stupid cashed up 5 day millionaire Jap's & Koreans they are a total rip off. Yeah they have some 9 &10 but I would suggest a 7/8/9 from Thermae or other place is a better better and smarter investment.
Trip Report soon.
NI.
[QUOTE=VicVeg;2898236]I went to Bangkok alone for a week. I stayed at Raumuchitt hotel. It is a good location between Nana plaza and soi cowboy, and near Thermae and the train. There is a short time hotel here for Thermae, so lots of traffic. And with Thermae next door, if you get a girl, it is a short walk to the hotel.
[/QUOTE]Nice report, VV. I will be going to BKK next week and staying at Ambassador, near where you were. Do tell what is a chocolate BJ. I don't mind fake tits as long as they are nicely done. Prefer LT and girls that like to be filmed but usually they don't. Thanks, man.
[QUOTE=DCups;2898329]Nice report, VV. I will be going to BKK next week and staying at Ambassador, near where you were. Do tell what is a chocolate BJ. I don't mind fake tits as long as they are nicely done. Prefer LT and girls that like to be filmed but usually they don't. Thanks, man.[/QUOTE]A chocolate BJ is just chocolate sauce on your penis and she licks it off. They also have cool gel / warm gel, and an ice BJ. Madame Claudes has the variety. Like most places, it doesn't have the hottest girls.
I think the Thermae girls will do LT. The secret is to chat them up to assure their heart is in it. I saw a hot young girl with braces just shake her head at an Asian man that tried to talk to her. I guess she can pick and choose the guys as she is in such demand. If you offer big $ for LT, I am sure they will come around. But it might be forced. Its better to find a girl there that likes you. Some guys walk around with Thai words on their cell phone translator probably asking for what sex they want and for what cost etc. Really creative.
Be careful with hotels as some higher priced girls off of escort websites won't go to anything but 4 or 5 star hotels. If top of the line chix is your thing. But like I said, the 8000 b+ girls are often a scam and not much better than the Thermae girls at 3000 b. For 8000 b I bet you can get a Thermae girl all night (LT).
Also, the Thermae girls will sleep with a guy, then go back to Thermae to make more $. If sloppy seconds is your thing. Best to get there at 8 pm when they open LOL.
Also, in Bangkok, during my research before my trip, I saw many mentions of rimming / anal etc. Once here I never heard such mentioned or offered. Has anyone else?
I tried Tinder here, and no one responded but Ladyboys I accidentally liked (it doesn't say LB on their pic).
I had a 90 minute salt scrub at a professional massage place and the girl offered HJ for 1000 or sex for 2000 b. So fun, and the massage was nice.
I think sex is everywhere here. Sex is the common currency that runs through the tourist section.
I see many tourist couples here, and some single women. Wow to travel this far from Europe to ride the elephants and see the floating market etc and not enjoy the sex scene. Wow.
[QUOTE=VicVeg;2898381]Also, in Bangkok, during my research before my trip, I saw many mentions of rimming / anal etc. Once here I never heard such mentioned or offered. Has anyone else?
I tried Tinder here, and no one responded but Ladyboys I accidentally liked (it doesn't say LB on their pic).
I had a 90 minute salt scrub at a professional massage place and the girl offered HJ for 1000 or sex for 2000 b. So fun, and the massage was nice.
I think sex is everywhere here. Sex is the common currency that runs through the tourist section.
I see many tourist couples here, and some single women. Wow to travel this far from Europe to ride the elephants and see the floating market etc and not enjoy the sex scene. Wow.[/QUOTE]Not everybody is a sex tourist.
[QUOTE=VicVeg;2898365]A chocolate BJ is just chocolate sauce on your penis and she licks it off. They also have cool gel / warm gel, and an ice BJ. Madame Claudes has the variety. Like most places, it doesn't have the hottest girls.
I think the Thermae girls will do LT. The secret is to chat them up to assure their heart is in it. I saw a hot young girl with braces just shake her head at an Asian man that tried to talk to her. I guess she can pick and choose the guys as she is in such demand. If you offer big $ for LT, I am sure they will come around. But it might be forced. Its better to find a girl there that likes you. Some guys walk around with Thai words on their cell phone translator probably asking for what sex they want and for what cost etc. Really creative.
Be careful with hotels as some higher priced girls off of escort websites won't go to anything but 4 or 5 star hotels. If top of the line chix is your thing. But like I said, the 8000 b+ girls are often a scam and not much better than the Thermae girls at 3000 b. For 8000 b I bet you can get a Thermae girl all night (LT).
Also, the Thermae girls will sleep with a guy, then go back to Thermae to make more $. If sloppy seconds is your thing. Best to get there at 8 pm when they open LOL.[/QUOTE]We are supposed to be source of Information not Mis-information. LOL. Hahaha.
Thermae prostitoots can be had Long time if you Schooze them with Don Quijoto Sweet Talk.
Can someone Confirm. LOL. Hahaha.
I have been in Bangkok for four evenings and thought I would send out a quick review of my experiences so far. I was here in Bangkok last year for a quick overnight stay and the time before that I was in Phuket on vacation with my girlfriend. It's probably been 7+ years since I have been here and able to play around. What has changed most is prices, and yes they have increased. There are now tons of marijuana dispensaries which seem to be busy with Chinese tourist. I do not recall Bolt being available when I was here several years ago, and I have been using that app for all of my transportation needs.
I enjoy the high-end soapy massage places, so that has been my priority. I have visited Black Caviar, Maria Massage, La Belle, and Tera. I was very surprised to see prices as high as 22,500 THB at Black Caviar and Maria Massage. The highest price at La Belle is 8,500 THB and that has not changed since last summer. For me, these places are amazing and the women are beautiful. Oddly, they are so beautiful that you become even more picky because you might be looking at several girls and trying to compare each one. It's like being a kid in a candy store.
It is very hard to compare these four soapies beyond price. They are each very nice. From my perspective, Tera caters more to local Thai men due to its location. Maria and Black Caviar seem to cater to Chinese clients. La Bella has the most diverse clientele. As a caucasian man, I felt like I got a lot more smiles from girls at La Belle than I did at Black Caviar. Actually, at Black Caviar I was rejected by my first two picks. Oddly, the third girl I selected acted like she was escorting an American movie star back to a room and kept thanking me for selecting her. She told me that many girls at Black Caviar (and other places) are afraid to go with European men (farang) due to penis size and how long they may take to cum. Of course I really don't care if I get rejected when there is almost 100 other girls to select from. You can tell as a customer if a girl wants to go to a room with you if she makes eye contact and smiles at you. If she refuses to make eye contact, it's a good sign she doesn't want you to pick her.
I stayed near Thermae and thought this might be my little honey hole during my stay due to its proximity, but I hit this place a few times and never saw anything too appealing. It's really hard to go from visiting these high-end soapies and then walk through Thermae. There is just no comparison. I thought it was odd that most girls in Thermae were dressed down and fairly casual. I sort of expected girls to be dressed really sexy. As a mid-age man, it shocked me how many really young Asian guys are out there paying for pussy. I never recall from prior visits seeing really young guys looking for cheap pussy.
I did pull a girl from the street outside Thermae one night. As a coincidence, she was someone I saw online and had been texting through WhatsApp. She quoted me 10,000 TBH through text, but on the street she asked for 4,000 TBH. This girl was on par with any of the girls at the soapies, but there was a suspicion that she might be a lady boy. She promised me that she was not, but there is a part of me that thinks I might have been with a post-op woman. I did not go down on her to explore vaginal area, but I imagine doctors in Thailand are pretty clever at creating a vagina. She was beautiful, but I do not plan to see her again.
While Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy are not my favorite places, I explored both. I think I hit just about every place in Nana and really wasn't seeing too much appealing. Again, not fair to these bar girls, but it's hard to leave Tera and then go to the go go bars in Nana Plaza. It's like comparing fine wine to a beer. Rainbow 5 seemed to always be the busiest place each night. This is not a place you can sit back and wait if you see a girl you like. If a girl returns to the club and gets on stage, she is picked super quick if she is hot. This happened to me a few times. I saw a girl, debated whether I wanted to take her, and then by the time I got the attention of my waitress, she was being pulled off the stage for another customer. Probably the hottest girl I found in all of Nana Plaza was a girl I met at Geisha. The first time I took her ST and the next I took her LT. As much as I liked this girl, she was really super clingy and has wanted me to come in and get her each night. She likes to sleep right up against you all night. Hard to complain about a super affectionate girl, but I toss and turn when I sleep. As for Soi Cowboy, it was pretty weak. I went in and out of several clubs and saw nothing appealing.
There are several high-end g clubs in Bangkok and some of you might remember the movie Bangkok Dangerous. On some prior trips years ago I hit Pegasus and The Pimp. Because I admire really beautiful Thai ladies, these places always aroused my curiosity. Some of the other clubs are Czech Club, Dubai Luxury Club, Elite Restaurant Thonglor 13, and Sherbet Club. I hit Pimp and Czech club the other night and was in and out in a few minutes. Pegasus was a gorgeous club but it is now closed. I am not a big drinker and don't sing, so these clubs are less appealing to me, but it's a nice change when you get bored with the go go bars. You either buy a membership or you have a minimum spend. If you want a private vip room, it runs about 3,000 TBH and the girls cost about 2,000 for the first hour and 1,000 each hour after.
The interesting thing about Bangkok is that there are just so many places to explore. I want to revisit Spasso on the lower level of the Grand Hyatt to see if it is still a great place to full beautiful freelancers. Also, Paikanyai Bar and 76 Garage appear to be places to check out that might have some beauties. The jet lag and the need to work remotely while I am here is killing me and certainly impacting my stamina. Maybe my age is catching up to me, but I just don't have the energy levels to go all out.
Billboard has a huge bath tub with half a dozen topless girls standing around, not even shaking their butts to the music. Most bar girls have fake boobs, may be also fake asses.
Nana Plaza bars are full of girls, just standing around looking dumb, tired and unattractive like meats, also full of mostly farangs, but most were just drinking and watching girls on stage, very few drink and talk with girls but no touch or grope, even fewer take girls out to hotels, like 1 to 2 %. 3,000 to 4,000 be for ST plus 700 to 1,000 bar fine would take each session up to about $140-150. No wonder few guys take up bar girls. Same prices and situation with bars on Soi Cowboy and the strip club around the corner.
Hong Kong club in Tijuana now costs $120 for a ST with a girl, plus $40 for ST room and lots of hands out for tips along the way, total about $180 per session, but at night on weekend a steady stream of guys take girls to hotel, like every 2 minutes or so.
When will Bangkok bars jazz up the shows with more beautiful girls and sexier contents, reduce their ridiculous prices for STs and bar fines to ramp up business?
[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2898511]I have been in Bangkok for four evenings and thought I would send out a quick review of my experiences so far.[/QUOTE]What a helpful and informative report. Big thanks to Tex Guy for taking the time to post.
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2898538]Billboard has a huge bath tub with half a dozen topless girls standing around, not even shaking their butts to the music. Most bar girls have fake boobs, may be also fake asses.
Nana Plaza bars are full of girls, just standing around looking dumb, tired and unattractive like meats, also full of mostly farangs, but most were just drinking and watching girls on stage, very few drink and talk with girls but no touch or grope, even fewer take girls out to hotels, like 1 to 2 %. 3,000 to 4,000 be for ST plus 700 to 1,000 bar fine would take each session up to about $140-150. No wonder few guys take up bar girls. Same prices and situation with bars on Soi Cowboy and the strip club around the corner.
Hong Kong club in Tijuana now costs $120 for a ST with a girl, plus $40 for ST room and lots of hands out for tips along the way, total about $180 per session, but at night on weekend a steady stream of guys take girls to hotel, like every 2 minutes or so.
When will Bangkok bars jazz up the shows with more beautiful girls and sexier contents, reduce their ridiculous prices for STs and bar fines to ramp up business?[/QUOTE]I think a reasonable answer to your question is probably never. It is fair to assume that these go go bars hire just about any young girl that is looking to work and make money. From what I have seen, many bars are struggling to put girls on their stages even on a Friday or Saturday night. If you are a super hot Thai girl, you are finding a rich man online, working at a g club, or one of the high-end soapies. BTW, I hit Nana several nights in a row and I would estimate that farang represented less than 5% of the customers in the plaza. I was often the only white guy in any club I went to. I saw tons of Chinese, lots of Koreans, and some Japanese. When the Chinese economy implodes, which most international economists are predicting it has already begun to do, prices will eventually reset and Bangkok bar owners will be forced to be creative to attract customers or close.
As for HK, great club with tons of girls especially on the weekends. The guys that cross the border into Tijuana are, for the most part, looking for sex with a hot Latina. They can hangout with their buddies at any strip club in So Cal if they don't want sex. I think HK attracts young guys in So Cal that have money to piss away.
Definately bring your own condoms from your country on your vacation. And bring them on all outings as you never know when a massage will lead to sex. Thai condoms you can buy in Bkk, and what the girls all bring with them, are small compared to condoms from other countries.
Don't trust pics off the internet. Cute girls from a website will show up and be a girl you never would have selected from Thermae where you get to observe the girl first. That is why Thermae is so great. From websites, either it will NOT be the girl you selected, or the pics are old, or they were glam shots and didn't show her fat *ss. LOL.
If you want BBBJ, make sure you ask the agency or girls first. It is hit or miss. Even Analisse massage, which specializes in glory hole (ie milking table massage), only allowed CBJ. So shocking. Yet a good girl from a high end, real massage shop, one with a concierge and serves you hot tea before and after, gave a BBBJ. So it is hit or miss, so be sure to specify before hand.
At Thermae, I tell the girl what I want: DATY, BBBJ etc. And ask if they have a child. But sometimes if she has a child, she will have had a see-section so her puss is still in good shape for DATY. Best is a thin, tight, young girl with no kids for DATY.
I took a third girl from Thermae and she was an actress. She had a whole production she used on the guys. Bunch of bouncing around, and fake moans and pleas for you to cum etc all in an effort to take as little sex from you as possible. So odd to observe. The other 2 girls I took from Thermae were young and loved the sex, DATY etc.
It must be in their culture, as Thai girls here love to lick a man's nipples. They don't know it does nothing for us. LOL.
All in all, BKK is a great place for sex. The hard part is filling the daytimes. Little opens until 5 or 6 pm, and Thermae opens at 8 pm. Yes, massage parlors are open most of the day, but like I have said, finding decent girls there is hard to do. So I tried calling in girls off the web and dealt with inaccurate pics etc. Stay up late and get up late, and hang around the pool, then go out after dinner. Just a thought.
[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2898511]
I did pull a girl from the street outside Thermae one night. As a coincidence, she was someone I saw online and had been texting through WhatsApp. She quoted me 10,000 TBH through text, but on the street she asked for 4,000 TBH. This girl was on par with any of the girls at the soapies, but there was a suspicion that she might be a lady boy. She promised me that she was not, but there is a part of me that thinks I might have been with a post-op woman. I did not go down on her to explore vaginal area, but I imagine doctors in Thailand are pretty clever at creating a vagina. She was beautiful, but I do not plan to see her again.
[/QUOTE]Great report. About the paragraph above: next time if you are unsure, just ask to see her ID. All thais have to carry their thai ID card with them, and it says "Ms" or "Mr" in english on it, thankfully regardless of any operations. If you worry about offending her, you can just make it out to be to verify her age. I. e. , she says she's 30, but you don't believe it, "nooo, you look soooo young. Not 30 for sure. Blah-blah. No, I don't believe you, ha-ha. Show me your ID. ".
[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2898502]We are supposed to be source of Information not Mis-information. LOL. Hahaha.
Thermae prostitoots can be had Long time if you Schooze them with Don Quijoto Sweet Talk.
Can someone Confirm. LOL. Hahaha.[/QUOTE]Confirmed.
NOw give back Schoolgirl.
Anybody here witness the ladyboy riot on Soi 11 the other night?
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2898717]Confirmed.
NOw give back Schoolgirl.[/QUOTE]Saw this on John Nothing Going on You tube stream.
Look like they were waiting to catch a Glimpse of Michael Jackson or Taylor Swift.
In what I could tell from angry lady bugs. About 200 lady bugs were waiting to punch out a Filipino Ladybug. Animosity like BLM days. I thought they were going to burn down that Soi.
One of the Uglier Lady Bugs said Thailand is her country. I take that as someone showed large amounts ofdis respect.
I've stayed that Soi many a nights.
Will be touching down April 1. Tax rework scaring off us Rich Folk.
On you tube comments many are going to keep their days on Thai soil under 180 days.
We don't want to get up in Thai bearacracy. Imagine if Thai ask to see USA TurboTax return and you plop 200 pages on their desk and they tell you to translate to Thai language.
[QUOTE=VicVeg;2898654]Definately bring your own condoms from your country on your vacation. And bring them on all outings as you never know when a massage will lead to sex. Thai condoms you can buy in Bkk, and what the girls all bring with them, are small compared to condoms from other countries.
Don't trust pics off the internet. Cute girls from a website will show up and be a girl you never would have selected from Thermae where you get to observe the girl first. That is why Thermae is so great. From websites, either it will NOT be the girl you selected, or the pics are old, or they were glam shots and didn't show her fat *ss. LOL.
If you want BBBJ, make sure you ask the agency or girls first. It is hit or miss. Even Analisse massage, which specializes in glory hole (ie milking table massage), only allowed CBJ. So shocking. Yet a good girl from a high end, real massage shop, one with a concierge and serves you hot tea before and after, gave a BBBJ. So it is hit or miss, so be sure to specify before hand.
At Thermae, I tell the girl what I want: DATY, BBBJ etc. And ask if they have a child. But sometimes if she has a child, she will have had a see-section so her puss is still in good shape for DATY. Best is a thin, tight girl with no kids for DATY.
I took a third girl from Thermae and she was an actress. She had a whole production she used on the guys. Bunch of bouncing around, and fake moans and pleas for you to cum etc all in an effort to take as little sex from you as possible. So odd to observe. The other 2 girls I took from Thermae were young and loved the sex, DATY etc.
It must be in their culture, as Thai girls here love to lick a man's nipples. They don't know it does nothing for us. LOL.
All in all, BKK is a great place for sex. The hard part is filling the daytimes. Little opens until 5 or 6 pm, and Thermae opens at 8 pm. Yes, massage parlors are open most of the day, but like I have said, finding decent girls there is hard to do. So I tried calling in girls off the web and dealt with inaccurate pics etc. Stay up late and get up late, and hang around the pool, then go out after dinner. Just a thought.[/QUOTE][blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] On earth, we tend to spend our days in Bangkok at all the various gorgeous what is. What pho, what Arun, what traimint, the golden mountain, what paknam, what prayun, what this, what that. That's not even counting the various markets, parks, monuments, palaces, restaurants, Canal boats and etc.
Licking nipples is a technique they use to delay sucking on your turgid member. I let them lick for a few minutes before I grab them by the neck and stuff it.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2898721]Anybody here witness the ladyboy riot on Soi 11 the other night?[/QUOTE]A mass brawl between Filipino transgender prostitutes and Thai ladyboys over a turf war in Bangkok's red light district?
[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13158213/Huge-transsexual-prostitute-brawl-sees-strong-ladyboy-mob-fighting-Bangkok-turf-war-escorts-clambering-tear-rivals-clothes-throw-punches.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2898796]A mass brawl between Filipino transgender prostitutes and Thai ladyboys over a turf war in Bangkok's red light district?
[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13158213/Huge-transsexual-prostitute-brawl-sees-strong-ladyboy-mob-fighting-Bangkok-turf-war-escorts-clambering-tear-rivals-clothes-throw-punches.html[/URL][/QUOTE]I'm totally devastated that I miss that. I should have been there it would have been the highlight of my life.
[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2898511]I have been in Bangkok for four evenings and thought I would send out a quick review of my experiences so far..[/QUOTE]For me, the most informative and comprehensively written report in this forum for a long time. Thanks. If you had to rank the high end soapies not based on price but on how much you enjoyed the experience in each (not just time with the girl (s) but facilities etc) what would your ranking be and why. Great report.
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2898796]A mass brawl between Filipino transgender prostitutes and Thai ladyboys over a turf war in Bangkok's red light district?
[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13158213/Huge-transsexual-prostitute-brawl-sees-strong-ladyboy-mob-fighting-Bangkok-turf-war-escorts-clambering-tear-rivals-clothes-throw-punches.html[/URL][/QUOTE]I just wanted to point out what I feel is continued lazy or perhaps politically motivated reporting by many foreign media outlets and I suppose even some domestic Thai ones regarding the "crime" or not of consenting adults over the age of 18 exchanging money for sex in Thailand.
In this United Kingdom media report I see it mentioned that prostitution is "technically illegal" in Thailand. If that is true I have yet to see a specific, "technical", literal or implied statement to that effect in the Thai Criminal / Penal Code. Not simply for consenting adults exchanging money for sex, that is.
Nor have I read about or met anyone in the 12 years I have lived in and around the ground zero Red Light districts of Bangkok who ever got busted and charged for this, imo, non existant "technical" crime in Thailand. Neither a customer nor a provider of the service here. Not even Freelancers who work the street and have never worked in or for a bar, a massage shop, an escort service, etc.
Even in this report it is asserted that these are Thai and Philippino Ladyboys in front of a hotel on Soi 11, no mention of them working in a bar or being bargirls / barboys working in a bar, engaged in deadly (stilettos involved) violence. Yet they are not arrested for this supposedly "technical" crime of prostitution but only for not having the right visa or work permit to ply their apparently perfectly legal trade.
Then they go on to explain that away by saying some British bar owners keep the police at bay on this issue through regular payments to them.
Really? Who are these genius British bar owners that regularly pay the police to leave Philippino Ladyboy Freelancers working the street alone? You know, Freelancer street girls and boys who, if they have prostitutes who actually work IN and FOR those British-owned bars, would only provide competition for the baht that I can only presume those British bar owners would much prefer be spent on their girls rather than on any Thai or Philippino street girls.
Do British bar owners really pay the cops to leave those Freelancer street workers alone? Why on earth would they do that? LOL.
The easy, lazy, non researched yet routinely repeated nonsense regarding P4 P in Thailand seem to be crashing into one another willy-nilly in that one report.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2898847]For me, the most informative and comprehensively written report in this forum for a long time. Thanks. If you had to rank the high end soapies not based on price but on how much you enjoyed the experience in each (not just time with the girl (s) but facilities etc) what would your ranking be and why. Great report.[/QUOTE]Really tough question, but I would lean towards La Belle for overall best value.
La Belle. Most convenient location to where I normally stay. It's a large place and I like the huge viewing area. If you have seen online images, they have a row of sideline girls to your right sitting in barstools and then all of the other girls sitting up on small sofas in stadium seating. It is very well illuminated so you really see all of the girls. The rooms are all very clean, but somewhat needing an update / remodel. The talent is consistently solid and the service in the room is always good. Go in around 5:30 and 6:00 for the best selection. Food is also pretty good with a large menu. Beer is always cold and the servers are quick and friendly. I always tip the papasan generously here. I am a white guy and I have been here enough to know that Asian customers get preferential treatment. I tip generously because when I am ready to pick a girl I want him right there to get her for me. Too many times in years past the girl I wanted to select got picked by an Asian customer because my papasan was attending to his preferred Asian customers. Yes, you can be eyeing a girl and narrowing down your decision. Within seconds, another customer could walk in and immediately pick a girl you wanted to go with. If you are a white guy, tip the papasan generously if you want good service from him and for him to be attentive. Lastly, he can help you with the girl if she is hesitant to go with a white man. He will also tell the girl that you are a very good customer and to give you very good service. Yes, the girls do not want you coming back downstairs and complaining to the papasan about her service. I was told a papasan gets paid 100 TBH each time his customer takes a girl to a room. Seems low to be, but I am from another part of the world. I tip generously here and some might think it's stupid, but good service is important to me.
Black Caviar. Probably the nicest building, but the viewing area to me is kind of odd unless you are one that is comfortable standing in front of a large group of girls and checking them out. You can also sit on a large sofa and the mamasan will bring over the girls to stand in front of you to select. I think the facilities are very nice here. There are a ton of gorgeous girls here. Go here and you will definitely struggle selecting a girl because they are all so hot. As a causasion American, I did not truly feel as welcome here as La Belle. This may sound odd, but the girls here would rather take an ugly Chinese guy to a room than go to a room with Bradley Cooper or Tom Cruise. Yes, you can anticipate being discriminated here for your skin color. It does not matter what you look like, how you dress, or how wealthy you might be. If you are white, you are NOT their preferred customer. I think the only way to overcome this is to be a regular customer and be super nice and gentlemanly to any girl you take to a room. The night I left on my last visit, the girl I went to the room with gave me a wave goodbye and blew me a kiss in front of all of the other girls. The girls that do not normally like white men will notice how you treat girls you go to a room with and how they react to you.
Maria Massage. You will be impressed the moment you walk into this building. It's beautiful and grand. The viewing area is okay, but they have large pillars that can block your view. The girls all sit on a really long sofa / bench and you will likely see 100+ girls. The sideline girls are way over on the right side and you need to get up and go over to check them out. To me, the sideline girls are not that much better looking than the other girls, but the prices are steep for these girls. Similar to the other places, you will struggle to select a girl because there are so many beautiful women.
Tera Entertainment. About a 30 minute drive from the Nana Plaza area, it's a very beautiful building and you will be impressed the moment you enter the driveway. The viewing area is a little unusual. There are dining tables lined up in front of the viewing area and there are sideline girls sitting on stools around the bar to the far left. When I first arrived there were no girls sitting in the viewing area and I almost walked out. The papasan assured me the girls were down the hall for a customer presentation. Sure enough they all came walking back to the viewing area and they were gorgeous. I made a poor selection here due to my impatience. She was cute and was wearing a short leather skirt that looked sexy. I picked her because she just appeared to be a really nice girl and she was, but there were so many other girls much more beautiful. After my session, I sat down for a coffee and contemplated selecting another girl for round two. There were 6-7 that were just my type and gorgeous, but I just didn't have it in me to go for another round. I will say the only really negative was how inattentive my papasan was. I might have gone for round 2 if he was even around to help me select a girl.
A couple notes of caution. All of these girls will be dressed in beautiful dresses with high heels. The hair, the makeup, the nails, will all be done perfect. When you get the girl back to the room and the dress comes off, do not expect perfection. Some will have tattoos, stretch marks on their tiny Thai butt, smaller boobs, and not look as good close up as she did from a distance. Oddly, Listerine just doesn't mask the bad breath on some girls either. I wish all of the girls were sitting in bikinis or sexy lingerie, but who cares what I think. Lastly, if you are a caucasion man or a man of color, expect to be discriminated upon and not being treated the same as Asian men. I cannot stress this enough. Expect it going in and be happy if you are not. It does not matter how well you are dressed or how much money have, a Chinese or Japanese customer will be treated much better than you. Yes, girls may actually refuse to go to a room with you because you are not Asian. I don't like it, but I accept it because I am in their country. I have been told repeatedly it is not about skin color and it is 100% about penis size. I have been told this so many times by Thai girls I know and trust that I now accept it. A thai girl working in Nana Plaza might be more used to it than a girl working in a soapy where 95% of the customers are Asian men.
I stumbled upon this place the other day and thought I would recommend it. The girls are young and super cute. Not the gorgeous girls you find in the high-end soapies, but really cute and a big step above what you find in bar girls in Nana or Cowboy. I visited one afternoon and was quite impressed.
Okay, so to me this is where the real value of this place is. Check out the prices for outside service. 7,500 TBH for 6 hours and unlimited shots. That's about $200 USD for a beautiful young Thai girl to come to your hotel for 6 hours. While the trans brawl was happening on the street steps from my hotel, I was up in my room with a beautiful naked Thai girl all night. It was spectacular.
[URL]https://butterflymassage.x.2nt.com/english-page/price-page-e.html[/URL]
I had a terrific time at Butterfly, although I did not take the girl back to my hotel.
You will notice that some of the girls advertise that they do BBFS (2000 baht surcharge), which is highly unusual for a massage place, but I can confirm it is true. Some of the other girls advertise that they do swinging. This is of interest to me.
Does anyone know of any swingers clubs in Bangkok? If so, please either post your experience or PM me.
THANKS. MG.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2898834]I'm totally devastated that I miss that. I should have been there it would have been the highlight of my life.[/QUOTE]There's a video circulating on facebook featuring this creature rounded and viciously beaten up by a group of ten Thais or more while she attempted to get out of the elevator.
[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2898909]I stumbled upon this place the other day and thought I would recommend it. The girls are young and super cute. Not the gorgeous girls you find in the high-end soapies, but really cute and a big step above what you find in bar girls in Nana or Cowboy. I visited one afternoon and was quite impressed.
Okay, so to me this is where the real value of this place is. Check out the prices for outside service. 7,500 TBH for 6 hours and unlimited shots. That's about $200 USD for a beautiful young Thai girl to come to your hotel for 6 hours. While the trans brawl was happening on the street steps from my hotel, I was up in my room with a beautiful naked Thai girl all night. It was spectacular.
[URL]https://butterflymassage.x.2nt.com/english-page/price-page-e.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Are all services included in the price, or are there extras?
[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2898905]Really tough question, but I would lean towards La Belle for overall best value.[/QUOTE]Thank you for another incredibly helpful and comprehensive answer. I almost therefore feel guilty asking a final couple of questions and feel free not to answer! But your experience here is really beneficial. I too am a white Caucasian man and I like to believe I am always well dressed, clean and smell very good. But its clear that is not going to be that helpful to me so that will be a new experience because I cannot recall being discriminated against ever. But maybe not a bad thing to have to personally experience what so many of our brothers from around the globe do experience.
My questions are (1) what do you consider to be the "generous" tip to the Papasan at La Belle and (2) could you share the range of pricing for each of the four venues you listed. Thanks again. I have an upcoming trip and will definitely use the benefit of your experience to guide me.
"Licking nipples is a technique they use to delay sucking on your turgid member. I let them lick for a few minutes before I grab them by the neck and stuff it. ".
And I thought they were fascinated with our nipples simply because our "man boobs" tend to be bigger than their own boobs! Haha!
Kick streamer MURDA says he get Hot Girls, many for FREE. LOL. Hahaha.
After seeing his stream his Definition of hot girls needs to be reevaluated.
He hängst out in Patpong area. Nuff said.
Hi everyone. I'm looking to go to Thailand almost exclusively for the BJ bars. I had some questions I hope you all could answer.
1. Are the girls time watchers? I was in 7th heavans website and they say the time limit is 40 min. Not trying to brag but I couldast near that long if I try. I'm wondering if most girls will complain if you take longer than 10 minutes.
2. I personally have a spit fetish. Is getting a sloppy bbj easy to get? Are they usually sloppy? Do I need to specify my preference? Is this this level of service something uncommon and I'll have to do more than just ask the first few chicks I see at a BJ bar.
3. Are the double bjs worth it? Do they take turns or do they genuinely tag team your member?
4. Any wild stories to share to help me understand the norms and limits of some of the places.
Struth, reading the last several posts (esp AtexGuy. Great posts) really makes me want to go back. Only had a couple of soapies in my past Thai visits and they were not great (prob my fault there fault equally) Feel I have unfinished business over there LOL.
[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2898921]I had a terrific time at Butterfly, although I did not take the girl back to my hotel.
You will notice that some of the girls advertise that they do BBFS (2000 baht surcharge), which is highly unusual for a massage place, but I can confirm it is true. Some of the other girls advertise that they do swinging. This is of interest to me.
Does anyone know of any swingers clubs in Bangkok? If so, please either post your experience or PM me.
THANKS. MG.[/QUOTE]For swinging activity, you can find out some informations here: [URL]https://lussuriaclub.com/lifestyle/swinging-in-thailand-legalities-and-cultural-considerations/[/URL].
Note to the admin: feel free to remove the link if not aligned with your policy. I do not promote the website, only this page, the most recent one suggested by Google to that answer to the swinging question.
[QUOTE=QualitySmut;2899369]Hi everyone. I'm looking to go to Thailand almost exclusively for the BJ bars. I had some questions I hope you all could answer.
1. Are the girls time watchers? I was in 7th heavans website and they say the time limit is 40 min. Not trying to brag but I couldast near that long if I try. I'm wondering if most girls will complain if you take longer than 10 minutes.
2. I personally have a spit fetish. Is getting a sloppy bbj easy to get? Are they usually sloppy? Do I need to specify my preference? Is this this level of service something uncommon and I'll have to do more than just ask the first few chicks I see at a BJ bar.
3. Are the double bjs worth it? Do they take turns or do they genuinely tag team your member?
4. Any wild stories to share to help me understand the norms and limits of some of the places.[/QUOTE]Norms: Except in 7th Heaven, the girls are ugly. In 7th Heaven they are less ugly.
Was in Bangkok in first week of March and quite surprised and a bit saddened by post covid changes. The soi 23 sidewalk is completely torn up, its getting fixed. Several massage shops on this road closed although 5-6 still in business. The "nana road" from sukhumvit road towards grace hotel sidewalk was also completely torn up. Didn't see a single FL in this area whereas in past this was a good place to find a few dozen. Grace hotel was looking gloomy and had may be just 2-3 women outside.
Sukumvit road from Asok to Nana petrol pump has become a regular, tourist filled road with very few freelancers. I used to find well over 100 in this stretch few years ago, now, mostly I found no more than 15-20. Some of them near Thermae area. The Biere garten as it was named then is gone, replaced by a newer, smaller and open concept bar named beer garden. Didn not see more than 5 FLs when I visited it twice around 10 PM. Quite sad actually.
The quality and quantity of massage girls in soi 24/1 is seriously down. During the day, there were very few girls sitting outside. Not even one was attractive to me. It did pick up quite a bit around 7 pm. Visited new snowhite but the offerings were meh. 1800 for 40 minutes and 2100 for an hour.
The only positive point was that more FLs now congregate in nana area, the street usually had close to 80-100 ladies around 9-11 pm. The area is simply too busy but one can still find a diamond in the rough there but requires great deal of effort and walking. Quite a few African and stani women too. Asking rate was 1200 bahts, thought it would be 1500-2000.
On the whole Bangkok has become much hotter, and somewhat expensive too. Can't walk far without a A / see taxi which now a days costs about $5-6 just for a km or two. Traffic has become seriously worse. Bangkok is fast declining as an affordable mongering destination and becoming more and more family tourist friendly.
All FLs I sampled were still pretty good except one dud. But it not the same as it was. As it was. I miss the good old 2000's.
[QUOTE=QualitySmut;2899369]Hi everyone. I'm looking to go to Thailand almost exclusively for the BJ bars. I had some questions I hope you all could answer.
1. Are the girls time watchers? I was in 7th heavans website and they say the time limit is 40 min. Not trying to brag but I couldast near that long if I try. I'm wondering if most girls will complain if you take longer than 10 minutes.[/QUOTE]Not sure if this is helpful but the one time I went to a BJ bar I was longer than 10 minutes don't recall how long but she had no complaints. Eventually I just told her she can just stop. I never finished from BJ so never went back hah.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2899111]Thank you for another incredibly helpful and comprehensive answer. I almost therefore feel guilty asking a final couple of questions and feel free not to answer! But your experience here is really beneficial. I too am a white Caucasian man and I like to believe I am always well dressed, clean and smell very good. But its clear that is not going to be that helpful to me so that will be a new experience because I cannot recall being discriminated against ever. But maybe not a bad thing to have to personally experience what so many of our brothers from around the globe do experience.
My questions are (1) what do you consider to be the "generous" tip to the Papasan at La Belle and (2) could you share the range of pricing for each of the four venues you listed. Thanks again. I have an upcoming trip and will definitely use the benefit of your experience to guide me.[/QUOTE]Fair questions. Tipping is a very personal choice and many have their own beliefs and practices regardless if they are home or traveling as a tourist. I typically tip generously wherever I go, but seldom over-tip. For the papasan, if he is very attentive to me when I am there and makes sure the servers are quick with my drinks, and food, and the girl gives me good service, I will slip him 1000 TBH. He will almost always say something in Thai to the girl right after I pay and before we go up to the room. I usually ask the girl what he says to her, and usually they tell me that he told them that I am a very good customer and to give me the best service. When I come down from a room he always ask how my service was. Lastly, he knows my type and will tell me if there is a girl in the house that I should wait to meet.
The price range for three places start around 6,000 and go up to 22,500. La Belle actually starts at 2,700 and goes up to 8,500. Most have 8 to 10 prices points. I would expect to pay about 7,500 at La Belle and 8,000 to 12,000 at the other three. To me, the pricing makes very little sense. I took a girl at La Belle the other day that was 4,500 and she had the most beautiful face. I picked her over the higher priced girls because to me she was more beautiful. I will typically tip a girl if her service was really good and I plan to see her again or want her to come see me at my hotel. I will tip a girl 1,000 to 4,000. If a girl isn't all that special and I won't see her again, I probably won't tip her.
I know a lot of people go to Thailand looking for cheap pussy. I don't take the time to fly across the world for cheap pussy. I fly to Thailand because I love the beauty and kindness of Thai ladies. As someone that worked in the service industry through high school and college, I remember decades later the customers that tipped me well and the customers that were super cheap. A generous tip to someone in Thailand will be impactful, but it's a very personal choice.
On a very off topic, I thought this scene from the Hangover movie would have totally killed the man purse forever, but it's apparently highly fashionable among the Japanese men visiting Bangkok. Maybe the Hangover movie wasn't too popular in Asia, but I never see man purses worn any place I travel until I hit Bangkok. Every time I see a guy wearing one on the streets here in Bangkok I think of Phil's line in the movie "You're not really wearing that are you? Below is a link to the scene in the movie. Yes, it's one of my favorite movies.
[URL]https://youtu.be/iuygRWVwuUI?si=THfVb0PG4TtW0qzE[/URL]
[QUOTE=QualitySmut;2899369]Hi everyone. I'm looking to go to Thailand almost exclusively for the BJ bars. I had some questions I hope you all could answer.
1. Are the girls time watchers? I was in 7th heavans website and they say the time limit is 40 min. Not trying to brag but I couldast near that long if I try. I'm wondering if most girls will complain if you take longer than 10 minutes.
2. I personally have a spit fetish. Is getting a sloppy bbj easy to get? Are they usually sloppy? Do I need to specify my preference? Is this this level of service something uncommon and I'll have to do more than just ask the first few chicks I see at a BJ bar.
3. Are the double bjs worth it? Do they take turns or do they genuinely tag team your member?
4. Any wild stories to share to help me understand the norms and limits of some of the places.[/QUOTE]If you want special things, I would look to grab up the girls that don't get much business. Ask the mama-san who would do what you want. Ask her or the girls if anyone would do a double with a friend they like. You can ask for a lineup of the girls so you can ask such things. It might not be the hottest girls at a shop who will get freaky, but who cares. If you aren't embarrased to ask a lineup of girls who will do sloppy BJ or a double BJ, then you will find what you want. I wouldn't go to the higher end places for freaky things. Go to wood bar (lower end joint).
If a girl is with her friend, and both are desperate for business, you will get what you want. Most girls carry tissues etc so they can spit into it so they don't swallow grossness anyway. So they won't mind so much about a friends spit in their mouth.
As far as duration, I couldn't cum either, so I asked the girl to kneel and coached her how to get me off so it only lasted 10 minutes or so. I wouldn't want to make a girl work longer than that. After 10 minutes, I stop enjoying it too. I had her grip it hard and then grabbed her head so I could hump her mouth for a nice hand / mouth action and she didn't complain. Then when I came, I let go so she wouldn't choke etc.
[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2899477]The price range for three places start around 6,000 and go up to 22,500.[/QUOTE]Curious what exactly do you get for 22,500 baht?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2899516]Curious what exactly do you get for 22,500 baht?[/QUOTE]Had a girl on TF quote me 20,000. Needless to say we didn't get round to discussing the specifics of her services.
[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2899477]F
On a very off topic, I thought this scene from the Hangover movie would have totally killed the man purse forever, but it's apparently highly fashionable among the Japanese men visiting Bangkok. Maybe the Hangover movie wasn't too popular in Asia, but I never see man purses worn any place I travel until I hit Bangkok. Every time I see a guy wearing one on the streets here in Bangkok I think of Phil's line in the movie "You're not really wearing that are you? Below is a link to the scene in the movie. Yes, it's one of my favorite movies.
[URL]https://youtu.be/iuygRWVwuUI?si=THfVb0PG4TtW0qzE[/URL][/QUOTE]Man purses are big in China too. I think it is seen as a sign of success. You are so rich and important that you need a man purse to carry all your stuff.
Soapies are my preferred venue for all things sex in Thailand. I've never seen a number that high and I've been doing this for at least 20 yrs. I seem to remember pulling a sideliner from LE belle for 3 x her normal round which was 7 k at the time. This was maybe 8 yrs ago so even with inflation I can't see 22.5 k per round.
Also can't remember if I warned you but LE belle has a farang surcharge. There's no way around it unless you are very tight with a mama.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2899516]Curious what exactly do you get for 22,500 baht?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AggieDad1;2899555]Man purses are big in China too. I think it is seen as a sign of success. You are so rich and important that you need a man purse to carry all your stuff.[/QUOTE]I carry my two phones in my Osprey sling. It's real too not a fake Nike or Adidas.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2899623]I carry my two phones in my Osprey sling. It's real too not a fake Nike or Adidas.[/QUOTE]I have thought about getting one for travel.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2899516]Curious what exactly do you get for 22,500 baht?[/QUOTE]Good question. At Maria Massage, girls with PRX are 22,500 for 90 minutes. What you get is essentially the girl that management believes is the most beautiful girl (s) working in their soapy. There are not a lot of PRX girls. You get the same service as a L "model" for 7,000 TBH. The girls with PRR, PRM, PRL, and PRX will be sitting on the far right side (sideliners). At Black Caviar, their CVM models will set you back 22,500. Same as at Maria Massage, this girl will give you the same service as a S model, but she is likely drop dead gorgeous. Each time I went to Maria and Black Caviar I was the only caucasion man in the building. The majority of customers at Maria and Black Caviar are Chinese and they have absolutely no problem dropping 15,000+ for the top models. And yes, many of these Chinese guys were sporting their man purses or murses.
These prices may sound insane to pay in Bangkok where you can go to any of the little massage places on 33 and 24 and pay 2,000 to 3,000 for very similar service. At the same time, the girls you see at Tera, Black Caviar, and Maria are gorgeous. These soapies would not be able to charge these prices if they didn't have customers flocking into their business happy to pay their prices. A year from now when the Chinese economy has imploded, they may have to drop their prices.
[QUOTE=FilthyBeaver;2899580]Soapies are my preferred venue for all things sex in Thailand. I've never seen a number that high and I've been doing this for at least 20 yrs. I seem to remember pulling a sideliner from LE belle for 3 x her normal round which was 7 k at the time. This was maybe 8 yrs ago so even with inflation I can't see 22.5 k per round.
Also can't remember if I warned you but LE belle has a farang surcharge. There's no way around it unless you are very tight with a mama.[/QUOTE]Yes, La Belle prices start at 2,700 and top at 8,500. Most of the sideliners are 6,500 or 7,500. You can easily go there and get a very beautiful P model for 4,500. LE Belle has beautiful girls, but not quite on par with the very top girls at Maria or Black Caviar. La Belle is my number one choice for value and Maria is my number one choice for the most beautiful girls and most beautiful facility.
[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2899673]Yes, La Belle prices start at 2,700 and top at 8,500. Most of the sideliners are 6,500 or 7,500. You can easily go there and get a very beautiful P model for 4,500. LE Belle has beautiful girls, but not quite on par with the very top girls at Maria or Black Caviar. La Belle is my number one choice for value and Maria is my number one choice for the most beautiful girls and most beautiful facility.[/QUOTE]You said La belle has beautiful girls. And I hope they provide services as desired by customer. DFK, BBBJ, Rimming etc. I feel, without good service. I have observed (at other places), more the beauty poor are the services. Please tell about the services at La belle. Planning to visit on Tuesday.
[QUOTE=AggieDad1;2899666]I have thought about getting one for travel.[/QUOTE]Its the best because you can stuff it full. Tablet, headphones, weed.
[QUOTE=QualitySmut;2899369]Hi everyone. I'm looking to go to Thailand almost exclusively for the BJ bars. I had some questions I hope you all could answer.
1. Are the girls time watchers? I was in 7th heavans website and they say the time limit is 40 min. Not trying to brag but I couldast near that long if I try. I'm wondering if most girls will complain if you take longer than 10 minutes. If you're being an ass she may end it early or just be mad with you. Don't be an ass, finish and go on your way
2. I personally have a spit fetish. Is getting a sloppy bbj easy to get? Are they usually sloppy? Do I need to specify my preference? Is this this level of service something uncommon and I'll have to do more than just ask the first few chicks I see at a BJ bar.
3. Are the double bjs worth it? Do they take turns or do they genuinely tag team your member?
4. Any wild stories to share to help me understand the norms and limits of some of the places.[/QUOTE]Since I assume you've never been, BJ spots really aren't all that interesting. You'll see, whatever you think it is, that's not what it is. Most of these are just crappy little spots you go in a little weird room or behind a curtain and some (often) not good looking thai / lao woman services you. They're not like cool and nice, its the lowest end, crappy brothels mostly. You go in, get cleaned up, get head, and thats it.
Anyways.
1) No. You generally get like 20-40 minutes or one pop. Whatever happens first. If you go early, she *might* give you two YMMV.
2) You can tell her what you want and she (probably) will do it, but whatever, if you like it that much, just before you choose the girl say what you want and you can pick a girl who will do it.
3) I'd rather just do a threesome at an MP than 2 girls at a BJ spot. But the girls will do whatever you tell them, you're like the 1000th person they've done a double BJ to.
4) BJ bars are unexciting, you get a blowjob, that's what the service is. If you want to fuck them or other stuff you can pay extra to do it just like any massage parlor. If you're looking for better stuff, go the the massage parlors, especially the PSE ones (Porn Star Experience) like Tulip, Snow White, and Cherry.
[QUOTE=GrapeMan;2899728]Since I assume you've never been, BJ spots really aren't all that interesting. You'll see, whatever you think it is, that's not what it is. Most of these are just crappy little spots you go in a little weird room or behind a curtain and some (often) not good looking thai / lao woman services you. They're not like cool and nice, its the lowest end, crappy brothels mostly. You go in, get cleaned up, get head, and thats it.
Anyways.
1) No. You generally get like 20-40 minutes or one pop. Whatever happens first. If you go early, she *might* give you two YMMV.
2) You can tell her what you want and she (probably) will do it, but whatever, if you like it that much, just before you choose the girl say what you want and you can pick a girl who will do it.
3) I'd rather just do a threesome at an MP than 2 girls at a BJ spot. But the girls will do whatever you tell them, you're like the 1000th person they've done a double BJ to.
4) BJ bars are unexciting, you get a blowjob, that's what the service is. If you want to fuck them or other stuff you can pay extra to do it just like any massage parlor. If you're looking for better stuff, go the the massage parlors, especially the PSE ones (Porn Star Experience) like Tulip, Snow White, and Cherry.[/QUOTE]I am with you that many BJ bars are pretty disgusting and older not so attractive women. I went to Lolita's out of desperation one night and yikes. But 7th Heaven is nice. Clean rooms. Pretty girls. My girl went 30 minutes for a pop. No complaints. Hard worker. I'the def recommend 7th Heaven if you are after a BJ bar.
[QUOTE=QualitySmut;2899369]Hi everyone. I'm looking to go to Thailand almost exclusively for the BJ bars. I had some questions I hope you all could answer.
1. Are the girls time watchers? I was in 7th heavans website and they say the time limit is 40 min. Not trying to brag but I couldast near that long if I try. I'm wondering if most girls will complain if you take longer than 10 minutes.
2. I personally have a spit fetish. Is getting a sloppy bbj easy to get? Are they usually sloppy? Do I need to specify my preference? Is this this level of service something uncommon and I'll have to do more than just ask the first few chicks I see at a BJ bar.
3. Are the double bjs worth it? Do they take turns or do they genuinely tag team your member?
4. Any wild stories to share to help me understand the norms and limits of some of the places.[/QUOTE]Your objective.
You need to re define your objective. BJ bars are just one little time pass activity. Set your goals high.
[QUOTE=Ranvir226;2899719]You said La belle has beautiful girls. And I hope they provide services as desired by customer. DFK, BBBJ, Rimming etc. I feel, without good service. I have observed (at other places), more the beauty poor are the services. Please tell about the services at La belle. Planning to visit on Tuesday.[/QUOTE]All girls do BBBJ, some girls will lightly kiss, some will DFK, but never had rimming. Ever. To some girls, kissing is more intimate than providing a BBBJ. I think DFK depends on the girl and how attracted she is to the customer. I have never had rimming at any soapy, but I have never asked. All of these girls seem to have a very similar routine.
I had seen posts on this place and decided to drop in one day to check it out. To me it's like one of those little massage places you might find in Mexico. Small but relatively clean waiting area. I think there were 8-10 girls working when I was there and all were already in rooms. I picked a girl from the tablet and waited for her to be available. I was offered a complimentary drink and had a seat. This is a busy place! I suppose for $30 there are plenty of guys interested in going there to bust a nut. As guys came downstairs and exited more men kept coming in. At one time there were eight other guys in the lobby with me waiting. My girl was kind of cute, but I was slightly disappointed. What do you expect for 1,100 TBH after all. I did not see any other girls. I was brought up to the third floor and she had me stand over the tiny sink as she washed me. The little rooms are separated by 6 ft dividing wall and plastic sliders. Yes, you can clearly hear the guys on either side getting blown while the girl moans as she sucks. And yes, you hear the guys orgasm. I just couldn't focus and wasn't really turned on by my girl. If I hadn't had so much sex the night before I probably would have cum, but I ended things after about 20 minutes and headed over to Black Caviar to be with a 9+ girl that was more my type. Is it a bargain? Yes! Would I go back? No!
I mostly post on another site but I get some good intel here so sharing my last visit.
Got the okay, seems like everyone I visited here is on this same floor, guess makes it easier so other customers doest hear the noises Arrived and my little buddy was already getting excited. She noticed and grabbed it giggling. Could tell she's a little older, probably like Namfon age so was expecting good experience and service. Decent english so that's always good too. Gave me a nice cold bottle water before chatted a bit. Smaller room, than Baimon, Namfons (they all from this same agency, I have past reviews of them) so didn't get the bath tub experience just self shower before we go sit on the edge of the bed. Feeling her up bouncing those big titties of hers while she's reading some msgs on phone.
Real fun about to start as she directs me to lay down and starts a BBBJ. Nice and long, atleast compared to the Thermae BJ which are usual covered and short. Stopped for a sec to check a msg she got, annoying. Heard two full songs during the BJ so a nice 6+ minutes. She had american music playing and dimmed the lights before we got started. She ask me to start on top but had her start off. She rode me for a bit before I took control and moved her to mish. Felt real good and so had slow my self down. Her phone was still on the bed which helped as I saw it was only 30 minutes in so can't finish yet. We started aroudn the middle of the bed adn I rammed here all the way til her head was off the edge LOL. Had to try her in doggy so swapped again. She relubbed up before reentry. Don't now why but just didn't feel as good as in mish, so soon after swapped back. Originally wanted her to ride me more but was enjoying mish too much went in for the finish.
Noticed earlier she had some nice a big box of. 001 at the time was going to try to buy some from her but forgot when we finished. Cleaned up and chatted a bit before heading out. She mentioned she'll be here 7 days not sure if she means off for a few days before back again. Also said yesterday was her first day so maybe she meant 7 days including yesterday? Oh forgot to mention she was okay with kissing enjoyed that throught the session, but rate baimon, namphon better kissers.
I'd recommend if you don't mind someone in their 30's could be mid to late. Nice body for whatever age she is. If I see her again I'll see if she'll allow nude pics.
[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2899668]Good question. At Maria Massage, girls with PRX are 22,500 for 90 minutes. What you get is essentially the girl that management believes is the most beautiful girl (s) working in their soapy. There are not a lot of PRX girls. You get the same service as a L "model" for 7,000 TBH. The girls with PRR, PRM, PRL, and PRX will be sitting on the far right side (sideliners). At Black Caviar, their CVM models will set you back 22,500. Same as at Maria Massage, this girl will give you the same service as a S model, but she is likely drop dead gorgeous. Each time I went to Maria and Black Caviar I was the only caucasion man in the building. The majority of customers at Maria and Black Caviar are Chinese and they have absolutely no problem dropping 15,000+ for the top models. And yes, many of these Chinese guys were sporting their man purses or murses.
These prices may sound insane to pay in Bangkok where you can go to any of the little massage places on 33 and 24 and pay 2,000 to 3,000 for very similar service. At the same time, the girls you see at Tera, Black Caviar, and Maria are gorgeous. These soapies would not be able to charge these prices if they didn't have customers flocking into their business happy to pay their prices. A year from now when the Chinese economy has imploded, they may have to drop their prices.[/QUOTE]Thanks for some great post ATexGuy.
I'm interested in what their service is actually as you expect it at these places, bath, BBBJ, FS?
Is there more on offer at higher agreed prices, or available as included, DFK, GFE, BBFS. Even CIP as you pay higher rates?
Or is it just the beauty tax that increases the cost?
Are extras like BBFS and CIP even possible to be discussed with a mamasan / papasan beforehand as a part of initial selection (but then up to the lady to decide / confirm)?
VicVeg said: "It must be in their culture, as Thai girls here love to lick a man's nipples. They don't know it does nothing for us. LOL. ".
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2898742]
Licking nipples is a technique they use to delay sucking on your turgid member. I let them lick for a few minutes before I grab them by the neck and stuff it.[/QUOTE]We're all different. For myself, my nipples are extremely sensitive; so nipple-play is a crucial part of any session. I insist on it.
[QUOTE=Lcale1982;2899767]
compared to the Thermae BJ which are usual covered and short. [/QUOTE]The golden rule when you meet a girl is to agree what services you're going to get before you part with your money.
[QUOTE=SiamMan;2899795]VicVeg said: "It must be in their culture, as Thai girls here love to lick a man's nipples. They don't know it does nothing for us. LOL. ".
We're all different. For myself, my nipples are extremely sensitive; so nipple-play is a crucial part of any session. I insist on it.[/QUOTE]Same for me. My right is more sensitive than my left so much so that at 74 it's what generally gets me to the finish line if performed during intercourse.
[QUOTE=SiamMan;2899795]We're all different. For myself, my nipples are extremely sensitive; so nipple-play is a crucial part of any session. I insist on it.[/QUOTE]I didn't know I liked this until an American girlfriend here in the States did it. I was even with an American stripper once who lightly bit me there and was suprised that I liked that too! Nipple play is not crucial for me, but if a girl does it well then all the better. During a mongering trip to Thailand I did find that Thai girls like to lick and suck on nipples a lot, but while in the Philippines no girl I was with did that. Fine for me either way. Like it but don't got to have it.
[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2899771]Thanks for some great post ATexGuy.
I'm interested in what their service is actually as you expect it at these places, bath, BBBJ, FS?
Is there more on offer at higher agreed prices, or available as included, DFK, GFE, BBFS. Even CIP as you pay higher rates?
Or is it just the beauty tax that increases the cost?
Are extras like BBFS and CIP even possible to be discussed with a mamasan / papasan beforehand as a part of initial selection (but then up to the lady to decide / confirm)?[/QUOTE]At these high end soapies, you can expect the bath, BBBJ, and FS. I think kissing is completely up to the girl. Is it possible to get BBFS, yes, but I think you would likely pay a significant premium and would be expected to pull out. I typically do not mention BBFS in my post because I think girls that provide this level of service cross a very risky line, especially if they do it with many customers. I enjoy this level of service as much as the next guy, but each time I have the opportunity I know I am taking huge risks. And lastly, no, I would never discuss services with the mamasan / papasan. I think the management of these high-end places want to keep everyone safe and do not want their girls offering BBFS. I think if this is something you want, ask the girl while you are in the bath together if she offers extra services and be prepared to show a recent std test (in Thai) showing you have been recently tested and are clean. Keep in mind, the girls that work at a place like Maria or Black Caviar make a lot of money by Thai standards. They do not need the extra money like a poor farm girl working in Soi Cowboy. It's not worth the risk to them especially with Chinese guys coming into this place eager to spend money.
[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2899771]Is there more on offer at higher agreed prices, or available as included, DFK, GFE, BBFS. Even CIP as you pay higher rates?
Are extras like BBFS and CIP even possible to be discussed with a mamasan / papasan beforehand as a part of initial selection (but then up to the lady to decide / confirm)?[/QUOTE]Even if the answer was yes, you will prolly be quoted a very high amount that will be split between the chick and momma / poppa.
You are better off asking about DFK and BBBJ before going in the room.
BBFS and CIP when you are in the room with the chick.
Did the Applikation process for 60 day tourist Visa get a lot easier?
Last year I remember they wanted my Airline Reservation.
I always love visiting Thailand and get super excited in the days leading up to my trip, but I am often eager to get home once I am there. The jet lag just kills me and I don't get a lot of sleep trying to work remotely during the night on US business hours. I always feel safe in Bangkok, but it's just a dirty city to me (not as bad as Jakarta) and there is something annoying about walking down the street from my hotel and getting grabbed and scratched by ladyboys trying to get my attention. The traffic is a nightmare and it is stifling hot and humid. And yes, for some reason I get food poisoning / diarrhea even though I eat most of my meals at my hotel.
As my days were coming to a close, I had to decide what I wanted to do and accomplish. I really didn't explore the g-clubs like I wanted, but I am not a big drinker and was traveling solo. Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza were such a disappointment that any more nights there would just be a waste. I had to ask myself why I flew to the other side of the world to this shithole of a city. I went there to see gorgeous Thai ladies, so I decided to spend my energy, time, and money at Maria Massage. To me, it's just the best.
I arrived at Maria around 3 pm and as I entered I was told that all of there girls were in a mandatory meeting until 4 pm. I thought this might be a great thing! Mandatory meeting means every girl is in the building. I needed to come back at 4 pm but where should I go? I decided to get a Bolt motorbike to get me and take me to Black Caviar. When I arrived shortly after 3 there were about 30 girls in the lounge. The manasan immediately recognized me and remembered my name and where I was from. I guess it's easy to stand out when you are one of the very few caucasion guys from the US that has been in there. I got lots of smiles from the girls and quickly made my choice. Off to the room and the standard soapy service was offered. I would not repeat with her. By this time it's about 4:30 and I am checking my watch. I need to get back to Maria ASAP.
A quick motorbike ride back to Maria and I am immediately blown away by the number of girls I see when I walk in. It was one of those holy shit moments. Every girl was there in front of me and ready to be taken to a room. I saw two that were just stunners. Of course the mamasan that escorted me to a table was catering to her Chinese customers and both girls got picked during the 15-20 minutes that I waited for her to return. Please note, most of the mamasa / papasan there do not speak English, so it's not like you can easily get someone else's attention to help you. Was I pissed? Hell yes! This is how it works at Maria. If you are Chinese you get great service. If you are a white guy you wait and pick after the Chinese. Elon Musk could go into Maria and have to wait behind the Chinese customers. If you are a white guy you are the least important customer in that building. All customers are not treated equally. Fortunately, there were still a ton of girls to pick from. When the mamasan finally came back over to me, I very politely told her that I would like to pick the sideline girl in the long black dress. This Thai beauty was shy and had not made eye contact with me, but once I picked her she was super happy and told me she had been watching me. She was new and it was her 5th day working. She said that she is always scared of being selected and going back to a room. She looked fantastic naked, but her service was just so so. I don't know about any of you, but when I am in missionary looking down at the face of a gorgeous Thai lady, I get so turned on. The girl was very nice and I would see her again, but I was eager to get back to the lounge to find the two girls I missed.
Okay, so you are not going to believe this. I walked back into the lounge area and grab a seat. I immediately notice one of these girls is back too. She is simply breathtakingly gorgeous. I look around and my mamasan is no where to be found and there is only one papasan that is attending to a Chinese customer at the table behind me. I keep looking for the mamasan and she is MIA. I look over my shoulder and the other papasan has called her over to the Chinese customer and she is standing at his table while he is inspecting her. Finally I see my mamasan and get her attention. I tell her I want the girl standing at the table behind me. Seconds later the Chinese customer stands up from his table and I watch her walk over to desk to pay. Damn! At this point I see a mamasan from one of my prior visits and get her attention. I explain to her what has happened and she suggest I make a booking for this beauty for when she is finished. Fine.
The odd part of this situation was that I had a great table upfront and most of the girls were making eye contact with me and smiling at me. While the mamasan / papasans were totally ignoring me, it was clear that the color of my skin and the language I spoke was no issue with the models even though it got me ignored by the staff I needed to help me with the selection of a girl. I began to notice one girl looking directly at me and each time I looked at her she smiled back at me. This is when I notice this girl is wearing those sexy clear stripper shoes that strippers in the US wear. So sexy! This must be a sign LOL! Finally I get the attention once again of the mamasan and select this lovely lady. I could write an entire post on my 90 minutes with this Thai beauty, but let's just say she totally wiped every last bit of energy I had out of me and left my head spinning. And yes, I had her wear her stripper shoes in bed. So so sexy!
As I walked back towards the lounge and grab a seat, I remember that I made a booking with the gorgeous girl from earlier. I am dead tired and realized I have had three girls within about 5 hours. I have nothing left and go over to speak with the mamasan to cancel the booking. She suggest that we make a booking with her for the next day. I head back to my hotel and crash as soon as I hit my bed.
The next day I head back to Maria around 4 pm. I got some really good sleep and I am completely recharged. A papasan who spoke no English walked me to a table and I quickly notice much fewer girls working today. The mamasan from the night before sees me and comes over to tell me PRM is not coming in tonight and is taking holiday. Am I disappointed? Yes, but there are some real beauties sitting in front of me. I immediately notice one staring at me and smiling at me. Yup! Smokin hot! I'll take her. No hesitation. Gorgeous! Simply gorgeous! Back to the room for the bath and service. She was phenomenal! This woman is the exact reason why I would fly to the other side of the world.
As I headed back to lounge and ordered some food while I recovered, I kept my eyes out for one more real beauty to emerge. The girl I just went to the room with kept looking at me and smiling. For a moment I strongly considered taking her for round 2. It is at this time that I reflect upon my days in Bangkok and decide that this beauty and my last session with her was going to be my last of the trip. I was going to conclude my trip with that remarkable 90 minute experience that I had with her. An epic finish. Time to get back to the real world.
[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2899994]I always love visiting Thailand and get super excited in the days leading up to my trip, but I am often eager to get home once I am there. The jet lag just kills me and I don't get a lot of sleep trying to work remotely during the night on US business hours. I always feel safe in Bangkok, but it's just a dirty city to me (not as bad as Jakarta) and there is something annoying about walking down the street from my hotel and getting grabbed and scratched by ladyboys trying to get my attention. The traffic is a nightmare and it is stifling hot and humid. And yes, for some reason I get food poisoning / diarrhea even though I eat most of my meals at my hotel.
As my days were coming to a close, I had to decide what I wanted to do and accomplish. I really didn't explore the g-clubs like I wanted, but I am not a big drinker and was traveling solo. Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza were such a disappointment that any more nights there would just be a waste. I had to ask myself why I flew to the other side of the world to this shithole of a city. I went there to see gorgeous Thai ladies, so I decided to spend my energy, time, and money at Maria Massage. To me, it's just the best.
I arrived at Maria around 3 pm and as I entered I was told that all of there girls were in a mandatory meeting until 4 pm. I thought this might be a great thing! Mandatory meeting means every girl is in the building. I needed to come back at 4 pm but where should I go? I decided to get a Bolt motorbike to get me and take me to Black Caviar. When I arrived shortly after 3 there were about 30 girls in the lounge. The manasan immediately recognized me and remembered my name and where I was from. I guess it's easy to stand out when you are one of the very few caucasion guys from the US that has been in there. I got lots of smiles from the girls and quickly made my choice. Off to the room and the standard soapy service was offered. I would not repeat with her. By this time it's about 4:30 and I am checking my watch. I need to get back to Maria ASAP.
A quick motorbike ride back to Maria and I am immediately blown away by the number of girls I see when I walk in. It was one of those holy shit moments. Every girl was there in front of me and ready to be taken to a room. I saw two that were just stunners. Of course the mamasan that escorted me to a table was catering to her Chinese customers and both girls got picked during the 15-20 minutes that I waited for her to return. Please note, most of the mamasa / papasan there do not speak English, so it's not like you can easily get someone else's attention to help you. Was I pissed? Hell yes! This is how it works at Maria. If you are Chinese you get great service. If you are a white guy you wait and pick after the Chinese. Elon Musk could go into Maria and have to wait behind the Chinese customers. If you are a white guy you are the least important customer in that building. All customers are not treated equally. Fortunately, there were still a ton of girls to pick from. When the mamasan finally came back over to me, I very politely told her that I would like to pick the sideline girl in the long black dress. This Thai beauty was shy and had not made eye contact with me, but once I picked her she was super happy and told me she had been watching me. She was new and it was her 5th day working. She said that she is always scared of being selected and going back to a room. She looked fantastic naked, but her service was just so so. I don't know about any of you, but when I am in missionary looking down at the face of a gorgeous Thai lady, I get so turned on. The girl was very nice and I would see her again, but I was eager to get back to the lounge to find the two girls I missed.
Okay, so you are not going to believe this. I walked back into the lounge area and grab a seat. I immediately notice one of these girls is back too. She is simply breathtakingly gorgeous. I look around and my mamasan is no where to be found and there is only one papasan that is attending to a Chinese customer at the table behind me. I keep looking for the mamasan and she is MIA. I look over my shoulder and the other papasan has called her over to the Chinese customer and she is standing at his table while he is inspecting her. Finally I see my mamasan and get her attention. I tell her I want the girl standing at the table behind me. Seconds later the Chinese customer stands up from his table and I watch her walk over to desk to pay. Damn! At this point I see a mamasan from one of my prior visits and get her attention. I explain to her what has happened and she suggest I make a booking for this beauty for when she is finished. Fine.
The odd part of this situation was that I had a great table upfront and most of the girls were making eye contact with me and smiling at me. While the mamasan / papasans were totally ignoring me, it was clear that the color of my skin and the language I spoke was no issue with the models even though it got me ignored by the staff I needed to help me with the selection of a girl. I began to notice one girl looking directly at me and each time I looked at her she smiled back at me. This is when I notice this girl is wearing those sexy clear stripper shoes that strippers in the US wear. So sexy! This must be a sign LOL! Finally I get the attention once again of the mamasan and select this lovely lady. I could write an entire post on my 90 minutes with this Thai beauty, but let's just say she totally wiped every last bit of energy I had out of me and left my head spinning. And yes, I had her wear her stripper shoes in bed. So so sexy!
As I walked back towards the lounge and grab a seat, I remember that I made a booking with the gorgeous girl from earlier. I am dead tired and realized I have had three girls within about 5 hours. I have nothing left and go over to speak with the mamasan to cancel the booking. She suggest that we make a booking with her for the next day. I head back to my hotel and crash as soon as I hit my bed.
The next day I head back to Maria around 4 pm. I got some really good sleep and I am completely recharged. A papasan who spoke no English walked me to a table and I quickly notice much fewer girls working today. The mamasan from the night before sees me and comes over to tell me PRM is not coming in tonight and is taking holiday. Am I disappointed? Yes, but there are some real beauties sitting in front of me. I immediately notice one staring at me and smiling at me. Yup! Smokin hot! I'll take her. No hesitation. Gorgeous! Simply gorgeous! Back to the room for the bath and service. She was phenomenal! This woman is the exact reason why I would fly to the other side of the world.
As I headed back to lounge and ordered some food while I recovered, I kept my eyes out for one more real beauty to emerge. The girl I just went to the room with kept looking at me and smiling. For a moment I strongly considered taking her for round 2. It is at this time that I reflect upon my days in Bangkok and decide that this beauty and my last session with her was going to be my last of the trip. I was going to conclude my trip with that remarkable 90 minute experience that I had with her. An epic finish. Time to get back to the real world.[/QUOTE]My question is why didn't you cultivate a relationship with the Maria Mamasan with a drink or tip? Possibly get better service?
The mama can't promise you anything other than the amount of time the girl is in the room with you. She will tell you what a particular girl will or won't do (or will get the answer if she doesn't know) but the standard line is "she gives very good service. " I have never had a mama redirect me from someone I had chosen because they "give bad service. ".
The best result I've ever received from tipping a mama, actually a papa in my case, is a discount (that I didn't ask for). This wasnt LE belle. I also brought a friend from the states into LE belle and the mama is was very close to pulled me aside and said she wouldn't be able to give him a break from the farang mark up that she had been giving me. The story is a little more complicated but that's all I'm willing to say.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2900006]My question is why didn't you cultivate a relationship with the Maria Mamasan with a drink or tip? Possibly get better service?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2899971]At these high end soapies, you can expect the bath, BBBJ, and FS. I think kissing is completely up to the girl. Is it possible to get BBFS, yes, but I think you would likely pay a significant premium and would be expected to pull out. I typically do not mention BBFS in my post because I think girls that provide this level of service cross a very risky line, especially if they do it with many customers. I enjoy this level of service as much as the next guy, but each time I have the opportunity I know I am taking huge risks. And lastly, no, I would never discuss services with the mamasan / papasan. I think the management of these high-end places want to keep everyone safe and do not want their girls offering BBFS. I think if this is something you want, ask the girl while you are in the bath together if she offers extra services and be prepared to show a recent std test (in Thai) showing you have been recently tested and are clean. Keep in mind, the girls that work at a place like Maria or Black Caviar make a lot of money by Thai standards. They do not need the extra money like a poor farm girl working in Soi Cowboy. It's not worth the risk to them especially with Chinese guys coming into this place eager to spend money.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the feedback.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2900006]My question is why didn't you cultivate a relationship with the Maria Mamasan with a drink or tip? Possibly get better service?[/QUOTE]My question is why to come waaaay the f over to a city that you hate to pay western prices for pooswah?
[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2899991]Did the Applikation process for 60 day tourist Visa get a lot easier?
Last year I remember they wanted my Airline Reservation.[/QUOTE]They still do (for USA citizens at least).
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2900121]They still do (for USA citizens at least).[/QUOTE]Ask for air and hotel still there. And proof of residency in USA.
No more Bank account request. And that Stupid photo with your face and passport in same shot.
I swear läßt one had 9 things you had to do. This current one only 4 or 5.
[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2899991]Did the Applikation process for 60 day tourist Visa get a lot easier?
Last year I remember they wanted my Airline Reservation.[/QUOTE]Yes -- they also want to see your return ticket. BTW does anyone have a good ride sharing app for BKK?
I am flying from Bali to Bangkok in late April. Was going to book flights in Bali going to fly Air Asia.
Can anyone recommend a good reliable app.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Tlito;2900301]I am flying from Bali to Bangkok in late April. Was going to book flights in Bali going to fly Air Asia.
Can anyone recommend a good reliable app.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Well if you are going to fly Air Asia, use their crappy app.
[QUOTE=Shamester;2900243]they also want to see your return ticket. BTW does anyone have a good ride sharing app for BKK?[/QUOTE]Small sample size but I wasn't asked to show my ticket out of Thailand for my last 2 entries. Sucks cause I bought a cheap throwaway ticket for both trips. I was asked where I'm going next. That's it. However, I wouldn't recommend flying in to Thailand on a regular tourist Visa without a ticket to leave.
What do you guys with 30 day extensions do? You can't show them a ticket leaving in 60 days if your initial tourist Visa is 30 days. Do you buy a throwaway ticket?
Ride sharing apps. Bolt is the best value. Grab is usually quicker for a ride. I heard Tada just started in BKK. I didn't get a chance to use it though.
[QUOTE=Dg8787;2900006]My question is why didn't you cultivate a relationship with the Maria Mamasan with a drink or tip? Possibly get better service?[/QUOTE]Probably unintentional, your question assumes that I didn't attempt to "cultivate a relationship" and didn't tip the mamasans. Now to be clear, Maria is not like some go go bar in Nana Plaza where you buy the mamasans shots and drinks. These high-end soapies are extremely professional. I have never seen one even drink coffee or water. This isn't my first rodeo and I always tip generously when I go to these soapies so that I get great service each time I come back. Perhaps you missed my prior posting where someone specifically asked me about tipping my papasan at La Belle. Regardless, the point I was trying to make was the lack of service was due to language, race, and pure laziness. This soapy caters to Chinese customers. I was repeatedly told by the girls that 90+ % of their customers are Chinese tourists. The rest are Thai, Japanese and Korean. The papasans / mamasans do not speak English, put their Chinese customers first, and most are lazy and prefer to sit on their butts playing on their phones. I share this with the ISG readers in the event they want to go there and happen to be non asian. As with all my posts, I share my experiences so others know what to expect. Frankly, I hope there is a clientele shift at this place and more men from Australia, Europe, and North America start going here. From my perspective, Maria in one the very top places I have ever been to in the world.
[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2899971]At these high end soapies, you can expect the bath, BBBJ, and FS. I think kissing is completely up to the girl. .[/QUOTE]Thank you for the informative posts regarding the current state of play at the high end soapies. I used to frequent the equivalent establishments many years ago. Back then, along with the bath, BBBJ and FS you mention, a standard part of the service was a 'soapy slide' on a mat after the bath. I'm curious to know, is that 'soapy slide' no longer offered as part of the service? For me, that was always a highlight of any session at these places.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2900321]Small sample size but I wasn't asked to show my ticket out of Thailand for my last 2 entries. Sucks cause I bought a cheap throwaway ticket for both trips. I was asked where I'm going next. That's it. However, I wouldn't recommend flying in to Thailand on a regular tourist Visa without a ticket to leave.
What do you guys with 30 day extensions do? You can't show them a ticket leaving in 60 days if your initial tourist Visa is 30 days. Do you buy a throwaway ticket?
Ride sharing apps. Bolt is the best value. Grab is usually quicker for a ride. I heard Tada just started in BKK. I didn't get a chance to use it though.[/QUOTE]For the zillioneth time, Grab is better. Faster, more cars and the difference in cost is negligible. You can tie your Wise debit card in too.
The ticket requirement is usually airlines. Air Asia has never asked me. You buy your ticket out when you go for your extension.
[QUOTE=SiamMan;2900330]Thank you for the informative posts regarding the current state of play at the high end soapies. I used to frequent the equivalent establishments many years ago. Back then, along with the bath, BBBJ and FS you mention, a standard part of the service was a 'soapy slide' on a mat after the bath. I'm curious to know, is that 'soapy slide' no longer offered as part of the service? For me, that was always a highlight of any session at these places.[/QUOTE]I hit a few massage places on 24 and 33 that did the Nuru gel slide on an inflated mattress. I have never had that offered at La Belle, Tera, Maria, or Black Caviar.
[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2899994]This is how it works at Maria. An epic finish. Time to get back to the real world.[/QUOTE]May be you mentioned somewhere but what would be charges at places like Maria, La Belle and Black Caviar?
[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2899994]I always love visiting Thailand and get super excited in the days leading up to my trip, ... get back to the real world.[/QUOTE]How much did you pay for girls and drinks at those places?
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2900356]For the zillioneth time, Grab is better. Faster, more cars and the difference in cost is negligible. [/QUOTE]Apologies I was thinking Pattaya. I don't usually take taxis in BKK cause everywhere I go is walkable from a BTS/MRT station. In Pattaya Grab is almost double Bolt and availability is about the same.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2900321]Small sample size but I wasn't asked to show my ticket out of Thailand for my last 2 entries. Sucks cause I bought a cheap throwaway ticket for both trips. I was asked where I'm going next. That's it. However, I wouldn't recommend flying in to Thailand on a regular tourist Visa without a ticket to leave.
What do you guys with 30 day extensions do? You can't show them a ticket leaving in 60 days if your initial tourist Visa is 30 days. Do you buy a throwaway ticket?
[/QUOTE]Better to buy a full flex / refundable ticket, then just cancel the ticket once arrived and wait for the refund to hit your credit card. If lucky, will even hit before your next bill.
[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2900382]May be you mentioned somewhere but what would be charges at places like Maria, La Belle and Black Caviar?[/QUOTE]I will try to attach the prices to give you an idea.
Arrived on Monday from Pattaya. BTW Grab works well in BKK with good pricing.
Taxied to Maria Massage from my hotel. The building and facade around the building is spectacular. The 8000 baht line up is good. Asked mama for a recommendation. Ignored and selected imo the prettiest one. While we were checking in didn't like her attitude and demeanor. Mama also asked for a 200 baht tip. Changed the girl to mama's recommendation.
Chica had a nice body and face. The problem with soapies is the chicas control everything. Its sensual and relaxing but not GFE. She was skilled at providing a slurpy BJ and making me cum earlier than desired. You need to follow THEIR script. Shorted time as well. This place is overrated and too expensive.
Taxied to Butterfly Massage. This place no longer exists -- bummer. The web site and pricing appeared promising. Taxied to Soi Cowboy -- it was too early.
Returned to the hotel for preparation to Thermae. Walked to Therame -- some chicas were outside for great deals. Entered at 8:00 pm. Decent amount of chicas. They all start at 3000 baht but many will reduce their rate. If you want a prime chica you need to move quickly.
Found a cutie from Chiang Mai. Petite 27 why / o with one kid. Negotiated 2500 baht for one pop. Walked to my hotel. It was nice seeing her parade around my room naked. She was sweet but in a rush. It was GFE but cummed earlier than desired. I was still feeling horny and started having sex with her for 2000 baht but changed my mind. She was unhappy and left. We had negotiated for tomorrow 8:00 pm to 6:00 am, 8000 baht and 3 pops. This is another chica that doesn't like long boom boom sessions. Texted her to apologize -- she accepted.
Woke up before sunrise. Walked to 7-11. Found a modelo slim anime-looking chica shopping. She was hot. Discovered she lives near the 7 11 and advertises on Massage Republic. 26 why / o Malay Thai mix with no kids. Initially wanted 3000 baht for one shot. Negotiated 3000 baht for 2 shots. She agreed and we walked to my hotel.
She had low energy but was GFE and cooperative. Exchanged numbers. No condom for BJ. It was nice to be in a relaxed situation in which I could control. She cummed in rcg. Finished in missionary. Great feeling to have this type of beauty wrapped around you. Decided to do only 1 pop at 2000 baht. Chill chica. Shall be following up but always have Plan be ready.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2900304]Well if you are going to fly Air Asia, use their crappy app.[/QUOTE]Thanks Mate.
Appreciate it.
[QUOTE=Shamester;2900561]Taxied to Butterfly Massage. This place no longer exists -- bummer. The web site and pricing appeared promising. Taxied to Soi Cowboy -- it was too early.
[/QUOTE]Is this the same Butterfly Massage you referring to? Did it move location? I still see people giving reviews for this place the last few days.
[URL]https://butterflymassage.x.2nt.com/english-page/index-e.html[/URL]
Watched some news reports about a "riot" between Thai and Filipino ladyboys the other week that took place on Soi 11. Seems to be some sort of turf war between them. Be careful out there!
[QUOTE=Shamester;2900561]Arrived on Monday from Pattaya. BTW Grab works well in BKK with good pricing.
Taxied to Maria Massage from my hotel. The building and facade around the building is spectacular. The 8000 baht line up is good. Asked mama for a recommendation. Ignored and selected imo the prettiest one. While we were checking in didn't like her attitude and demeanor. Mama also asked for a 200 baht tip. Changed the girl to mama's recommendation.
Chica had a nice body and face. The problem with soapies is the chicas control everything. Its sensual and relaxing but not GFE. She was skilled at providing a slurpy BJ and making me cum earlier than desired. You need to follow THEIR script. Shorted time as well. This place is overrated and too expensive.
Taxied to Butterfly Massage. This place no longer exists -- bummer. The web site and pricing appeared promising. Taxied to Soi Cowboy -- it was too early.
Returned to the hotel for preparation to Thermae. Walked to Therame -- some chicas were outside for great deals. Entered at 8:00 pm. Decent amount of chicas. They all start at 3000 baht but many will reduce their rate. If you want a prime chica you need to move quickly.
Found a cutie from Chiang Mai. Petite 27 why / o with one kid. Negotiated 2500 baht for one pop. Walked to my hotel. It was nice seeing her parade around my room naked. She was sweet but in a rush. It was GFE but cummed earlier than desired. I was still feeling horny and started having sex with her for 2000 baht but changed my mind. She was unhappy and left. We had negotiated for tomorrow 8:00 pm to 6:00 am, 8000 baht and 3 pops. This is another chica that doesn't like long boom boom sessions. Texted her to apologize -- she accepted.
Woke up before sunrise. Walked to 7-11. Found a modelo slim anime-looking chica shopping. She was hot. Discovered she lives near the 7 11 and advertises on Massage Republic. 26 why / o Malay Thai mix with no kids. Initially wanted 3000 baht for one shot. Negotiated 3000 baht for 2 shots. She agreed and we walked to my hotel.
She had low energy but was GFE and cooperative. Exchanged numbers. No condom for BJ. It was nice to be in a relaxed situation in which I could control. She cummed in rcg. Finished in missionary. Great feeling to have this type of beauty wrapped around you. Decided to do only 1 pop at 2000 baht. Chill chica. Shall be following up but always have Plan be ready.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear you didn't have a very good experience at Maria. I loved the place and had total GFE with all but one of the girls I was with. They do have their routine or script as you call it, but that is what customers go there sort of expect. From all of my travels, I have only been to one place in the world better than Maria and that was Scandallo in Brazil. Maria is a pricey option in Bangkok compared to a place like Butterfly or any bar girl in Soi Cowboy or Thermae (Butterfly is definitely in business), but most of their beauties will cost you less than $300 USD for a girl that is 9+ on anyone's scale. It's by no means a bargain, but their clientele is the Chinese tourist that is willing to drop big baht for a gorgeous girl.
I tried this "beer bar" on Suk Soi 22 recently. I put the term in quotes due to the fact that it's a beer bar in name only. It has the usual accoutrements: girls sitting around at the tables, a pool table, a friendly mamasan, and of course a bar fine. But once you pay the fine and take a girl to your room, she flakes out (pretending that she didn't understand your clearly-specified request). You end up 600 be poorer and the mamasan refuses to help. Collecting bar fines with no intention of honouring the agreement appears to me the MO for this place! Lesson learned.
For Tuesday went shopping for crocodile wallets. Bought 2 from Bangkok Bootery. The malls in BKK are incredibly large. Shall seek out Thai Silk shirts on Wednesday at Premium Shopping Mall. Returned to the hotel and taxied to Angel Massage.
The strip that Angel resides at has at least 5 massage options. Angel had a decent selection of chicas. 2100 baht for one hour nuru (you always get shorted 15 minutes or more). Chose a cutie from Chiang Mai. Good attitude. Body to body and boom boom was wonderful. Wandered down the lane after completion and witnessed some hot chicas. My suggestion is to shop around before partaking. Considering returning.
My fav is tough to connect with. Finally sessioned at 5:30 am. Great passionate action. Shall meet up later in order for her to take me shopping for Mens Thai Silk shirts via the metro.
Departing Thursday for Manila.
It's not for the bargain hunter but I'd say it's luxurious and the girls are above average. That said, I have walked out unsatisfied because I didn't see anything I liked and I can say the same for every soapy I've ever walked in. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and I consider myself extremely picky. Every soapy has the same MO as far as "service schedule. " Fill tub, undress, crappy massage or some scamming if you open her up a little, couples bath, on the bed, second wash down, get dressed.
[QUOTE=ATexGuy;2900734]Sorry to hear you didn't have a very good experience at Maria. I loved the place and had total GFE with all but one of the girls I was with. They do have their routine or script as you call it, but that is what customers go there sort of expect. From all of my travels, I have only been to one place in the world better than Maria and that was Scandallo in Brazil. Maria is a pricey option in Bangkok compared to a place like Butterfly or any bar girl in Soi Cowboy or Thermae (Butterfly is definitely in business), but most of their beauties will cost you less than $300 USD for a girl that is 9+ on anyone's scale. It's by no means a bargain, but their clientele is the Chinese tourist that is willing to drop big baht for a gorgeous girl.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Shamester;2900870]For Tuesday went shopping for crocodile wallets. Bought 2 from Bangkok Bootery. The malls in BKK are incredibly large. Shall seek out Thai Silk shirts on Wednesday at Premium Shopping Mall. Returned to the hotel and taxied to Angel Massage.
The strip that Angel resides at has at least 5 massage options. Angel had a decent selection of chicas. 2100 baht for one hour nuru (you always get shorted 15 minutes or more). Chose a cutie from Chiang Mai. Good attitude. Body to body and boom boom was wonderful. Wandered down the lane after completion and witnessed some hot chicas. My suggestion is to shop around before partaking. Considering returning.
My fav is tough to connect with. Finally sessioned at 5:30 am. Great passionate action. Shall meet up later in order for her to take me shopping for Mens Thai Silk shirts via the metro.
Departing Thursday for Manila.[/QUOTE]That lane where Angeks is located had Hot Chicas. Hahaha. Hahaha. Hahaha.
I must say getting my tourist visa was pretty darn EZ.
[QUOTE=TKOman;2900800]I tried this "beer bar" on Suk Soi 22 recently. I put the term in quotes due to the fact that it's a beer bar in name only. It has the usual accoutrements: girls sitting around at the tables, a pool table, a friendly mamasan, and of course a bar fine. But once you pay the fine and take a girl to your room, she flakes out (pretending that she didn't understand your clearly-specified request). You end up 600 be poorer and the mamasan refuses to help. Collecting bar fines with no intention of honouring the agreement appears to me the MO for this place! Lesson learned.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up. I'd rather see practical information like yours so much more than the porn novels.
Time to say it again. Most know seems some don't.
Please don't pay 10,000 baht at Marys expecting Good Service. You are paying for a Better Looking Girl.
Yes on Average they are Better Looking. If you don't think so that's on You. You may be OFF the Spectrum. LOL. Hahaha.
[QUOTE=Shamester;2900870]For Tuesday went shopping for crocodile wallets. Bought 2 from Bangkok Bootery. The malls in BKK are incredibly large. Shall seek out Thai Silk shirts on Wednesday at Premium Shopping Mall. Returned to the hotel and taxied to Angel Massage.
The strip that Angel resides at has at least 5 massage options. Angel had a decent selection of chicas. 2100 baht for one hour nuru (you always get shorted 15 minutes or more). Chose a cutie from Chiang Mai. Good attitude. Body to body and boom boom was wonderful. Wandered down the lane after completion and witnessed some hot chicas. My suggestion is to shop around before partaking. Considering returning.
My fav is tough to connect with. Finally sessioned at 5:30 am. Great passionate action. Shall meet up later in order for her to take me shopping for Mens Thai Silk shirts via the metro.
Departing Thursday for Manila.[/QUOTE]Don't get caught bringing those wallets into the USA.
[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2900895]I must say getting my tourist visa was pretty darn EZ.[/QUOTE]I don't bother. I just get on the plane or bus.
[QUOTE=Shamester;2900561]Arrived on Monday from Pattaya. BTW Grab works well in BKK with good pricing.
Taxied to Maria Massage from my hotel. The building and facade around the building is spectacular. The 8000 baht line up is good. Asked mama for a recommendation. Ignored and selected imo the prettiest one. While we were checking in didn't like her attitude and demeanor. Mama also asked for a 200 baht tip. Changed the girl to mama's recommendation.
Chica had a nice body and face. The problem with soapies is the chicas control everything. Its sensual and relaxing but not GFE. She was skilled at providing a slurpy BJ and making me cum earlier than desired. You need to follow THEIR script. Shorted time as well. This place is overrated and too expensive.
Taxied to Butterfly Massage. This place no longer exists -- bummer. The web site and pricing appeared promising. Taxied to Soi Cowboy -- it was too early.
Returned to the hotel for preparation to Thermae. Walked to Therame -- some chicas were outside for great deals. Entered at 8:00 pm. Decent amount of chicas. They all start at 3000 baht but many will reduce their rate. If you want a prime chica you need to move quickly.
Found a cutie from Chiang Mai. Petite 27 why / o with one kid. Negotiated 2500 baht for one pop. Walked to my hotel. It was nice seeing her parade around my room naked. She was sweet but in a rush. It was GFE but cummed earlier than desired. I was still feeling horny and started having sex with her for 2000 baht but changed my mind. She was unhappy and left. We had negotiated for tomorrow 8:00 pm to 6:00 am, 8000 baht and 3 pops. This is another chica that doesn't like long boom boom sessions. Texted her to apologize -- she accepted.
Woke up before sunrise. Walked to 7-11. Found a modelo slim anime-looking chica shopping. She was hot. Discovered she lives near the 7 11 and advertises on Massage Republic. 26 why / o Malay Thai mix with no kids. Initially wanted 3000 baht for one shot. Negotiated 3000 baht for 2 shots. She agreed and we walked to my hotel.
She had low energy but was GFE and cooperative. Exchanged numbers. No condom for BJ. It was nice to be in a relaxed situation in which I could control. She cummed in rcg. Finished in missionary. Great feeling to have this type of beauty wrapped around you. Decided to do only 1 pop at 2000 baht. Chill chica. Shall be following up but always have Plan be ready.[/QUOTE]WHAT?! Whaaaaaaaat? Butterfly's closed? I just googled it, and even google says it's closed. This fucking sucks, cause given the chance, if I ever got back to Bangkok, I would have dared myself to try doing BBFS there, like really tempt myself to do it, see if I can actually say no, probably not. Actually do it, and once that taboo was broken I'd fuck bareback with every Thai chick I could afford. Man, this really blows. Anybody know why? Did they not pay the right people? Did they move someplace else.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2900356]For the zillioneth time, Grab is better. Faster, more cars and the difference in cost is negligible. You can tie your Wise debit card in too.
The ticket requirement is usually airlines. Air Asia has never asked me. You buy your ticket out when you go for your extension.[/QUOTE]Grab is better, but just use cash. Why tie anything to it? Trust me dudes, plenty of experience here. Old man talking. In this day and age, people seem to be ready to kill each other and destroy whole countries for what really old men want. So why not listen to me too? Use cash with Grab. Always. Trust me. Betcha most you fellas didn't even know you could. Cause weirdly uber and lyft here you got to tie your credit card to it, but not in awesome Thailand. God, that's why I love Thailand. So many reasons to love it. I'd sell my soul to be rich to go back.
[QUOTE=QualitySmut;2899369]Hi everyone. I'm looking to go to Thailand almost exclusively for the BJ bars. I had some questions I hope you all could answer.
1. Are the girls time watchers? I was in 7th heavans website and they say the time limit is 40 min. Not trying to brag but I couldast near that long if I try. I'm wondering if most girls will complain if you take longer than 10 minutes.
2. I personally have a spit fetish. Is getting a sloppy bbj easy to get? Are they usually sloppy? Do I need to specify my preference? Is this this level of service something uncommon and I'll have to do more than just ask the first few chicks I see at a BJ bar.
3. Are the double bjs worth it? Do they take turns or do they genuinely tag team your member?
4. Any wild stories to share to help me understand the norms and limits of some of the places.[/QUOTE]It's weird to me you'd go all the way there and not stick dick into pussy, but respect cause you know what you want. You're strictly into BJ's. In my experiences with Bangkok, I got BJ's, but not at BJ bars. So good luck to you friend, plenty of BJ bars from when I was last there.
[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2898921]I had a terrific time at Butterfly, although I did not take the girl back to my hotel.
You will notice that some of the girls advertise that they do BBFS (2000 baht surcharge), which is highly unusual for a massage place, but I can confirm it is true. Some of the other girls advertise that they do swinging. This is of interest to me.
Does anyone know of any swingers clubs in Bangkok? If so, please either post your experience or PM me.
THANKS. MG.[/QUOTE]Are they really closed? Say it ain't so.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2900356]For the zillioneth time, Grab is better. Faster, more cars and the difference in cost is negligible. You can tie your Wise debit card in too.
The ticket requirement is usually airlines. Air Asia has never asked me. You buy your ticket out when you go for your extension.[/QUOTE]I always use motorbike so I always use Bolt (like min or two wait, car figure is alot longer), always 20-30% cheaper when I compare but this is chump change to us tourist anyways LOL.
Figure most of you might be taller fellas so yea if u using car Grab would be a lot faster. Used it a few times when not traveling solo
[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2901170]Are they really closed? Say it ain't so.[/QUOTE]The taxidrive must have made a mistake. Butterfly is definitely open. I was there last night (Wednesday) and had a great session.
Very nice and relaxed experience.
Mi-e is cute as a pie.
[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2901167]Grab is better, but just use cash. Why tie anything to it? Trust me dudes, plenty of experience here. Old man talking. In this day and age, people seem to be ready to kill each other and destroy whole countries for what really old men want. So why not listen to me too? Use cash with Grab. Always. Trust me. Betcha most you fellas didn't even know you could. Cause weirdly uber and lyft here you got to tie your credit card to it, but not in awesome Thailand. God, that's why I love Thailand. So many reasons to love it. I'd sell my soul to be rich to go back.[/QUOTE]I tie my wise card to it just fine. But hey, tell us old man with plenty of experience, why I shouldn't.
[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2900895]I must say getting my tourist visa was pretty darn EZ.[/QUOTE]They gave it in a few days only?
It seems that where I am, they make a point of waiting a whole month before giving it.
[QUOTE=Shamester;2900561]Arrived on Monday from Pattaya. BTW Grab works well in BKK with good pricing.
Taxied to Maria Massage from my hotel. The building and facade around the building is spectacular. The 8000 baht line up is good ... The problem with soapies is the chicas control everything ... She was skilled at providing a slurpy BJ and making me cum earlier than desired. You need to follow THEIR script. Shorted time as well. This place is overrated and too expensive.[/QUOTE]On recent trips I visited Maria, Black Caviar, Emmanuelle, La Belle, Poseidon, Tara (by the airport) and Utopia. I agree with you that Maria is overpriced. For me, Emmanuelle (reopened), La Belle, and Tara had the hottest girls in the 6-8,000 THB price range, which is their highest price tier.
Meanwhile 6-7,000 is the lowest price tier at Maria. Also, the girls at Maria are hard to see up-close because they sit at the back of this wide platform / stage. The most expensive girls at Maria (15,000+) were NOT hotter imo than the most expensive girls at La Belle etc (8,000). But Maria had 3 x more girls.
Like you, I was shorted on time. I assumed it's 90 minutes but the last girl (at Poseidon?) said it was 60. Next time I'll be sure to confirm 90 minutes beforehand.
If you don't want to tip, say you have no cash (all other payment is by credit card). I don't see the purpose of these "hosts / intermediaries".
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2901211]They gave it in a few days only?
It seems that where I am, they make a point of waiting a whole month before giving it.[/QUOTE]Submitted March 11. Got 60 tourist visa March 13.
Might have been issued in 1 day but for a request of one document.
[QUOTE=QualitySmut;2899369]Hi everyone. I'm looking to go to Thailand almost exclusively for the BJ bars. I had some questions I hope you all could answer.
1. Are the girls time watchers? I was in 7th heavans website and they say the time limit is 40 min. Not trying to brag but I couldast near that long if I try. I'm wondering if most girls will complain if you take longer than 10 minutes.
2. I personally have a spit fetish. Is getting a sloppy bbj easy to get? Are they usually sloppy? Do I need to specify my preference? Is this this level of service something uncommon and I'll have to do more than just ask the first few chicks I see at a BJ bar.
3. Are the double bjs worth it? Do they take turns or do they genuinely tag team your member?
4. Any wild stories to share to help me understand the norms and limits of some of the places.[/QUOTE]1. Nope. The 7-heaven girls are true pros. No complaining and no qualms about uncovered, CIM blowjobs, short or long.
2. I would ask at a dedicated BJ bar like 7-heaven or Lolita $, and then, upon delivery of sloppy BJ, tip appropriately.
3. In my experience, no, but you may disagree! Go try!
4. Wild? Well, if you like to have others watch you get blown, then try After Skooll or Toy Bar in Soi Cowboy. If you prefer to be anonymous, but want to hear other guys getting sucked off, try Lolita $ or Kaasalong (where you are separated from your neighbours by a flimsy curtain or partial wall), and if you want an exemplary deep throat BJ from a true expert, try a ladyboy!
[QUOTE=Lcale1982;2901181]I always use motorbike so I always use Bolt (like min or two wait, car figure is alot longer), always 20-30% cheaper when I compare but this is chump change to us tourist anyways LOL.
Figure most of you might be taller fellas so yea if u using car Grab would be a lot faster. Used it a few times when not traveling solo[/QUOTE]In Bangkok Bolt is too unreliable to be useful, the motorbikes are ok though, but Grab is the way to go. Bolt cars always say they are coming but never do in Bangkok. Just use Grab.
Outside of Bangkok Bolt is the one I usually use and offers better rates.
[QUOTE=NoBuglyFitches;2901221]On recent trips I visited Maria, Black Caviar, Emmanuelle, La Belle, Poseidon, Tara (by the airport) and Utopia. I agree with you that Maria is overpriced. For me, Emmanuelle (reopened), La Belle, and Tara had the hottest girls in the 6-8,000 THB price range, which is their highest price tier.
Meanwhile 6-7,000 is the lowest price tier at Maria. Also, the girls at Maria are hard to see up-close because they sit at the back of this wide platform / stage. The most expensive girls at Maria (15,000+) were NOT hotter imo than the most expensive girls at La Belle etc (8,000). But Maria had 3 x more girls.
Like you, I was shorted on time. I assumed it's 90 minutes but the last girl (at Poseidon?) said it was 60. Next time I'll be sure to confirm 90 minutes beforehand.
If you don't want to tip, say you have no cash (all other payment is by credit card). I don't see the purpose of these "hosts / intermediaries".[/QUOTE]How did you like Emmanuelle, Tara or Maria? I thought La Belle was good and close to Soi 11. Black Label was a really, really nice upscale club but Bangkok traffic didn't make it worth it and the girls were good but just as good as La Belle.
Stayed at Ambassador Soi 11 near Thermae and Nana. Picked up a freelance spinner with giant tits outside of Thermae. I swear she was a 32 DD -22 - 32 cuddlebunny who loved having her tits grabbed all night long! Two other busty, deep throat specialists, one from a massage parlor, made this a very enjoyable trip. As for inside Thermae it was packed with girls, some stunners but also packed with mostly Asian customers. The very definition of a Meat Market in one large barroom location.
[QUOTE=TKOman;2901323]1. Nope. The 7-heaven girls are true pros. No complaining and no qualms about uncovered, CIM blowjobs, short or long.
2. I would ask at a dedicated BJ bar like 7-heaven or Lolita $, and then, upon delivery of sloppy BJ, tip appropriately.
3. In my experience, no, but you may disagree! Go try!
4. Wild? Well, if you like to have others watch you get blown, then try After Skooll or Toy Bar in Soi Cowboy. If you prefer to be anonymous, but want to hear other guys getting sucked off, try Lolita $ or Kaasalong (where you are separated from your neighbours by a flimsy curtain or partial wall), and if you want an exemplary deep throat BJ from a true expert, try a ladyboy![/QUOTE]In my opinion most BJ bar ladies are 2's to 4's. There skills may be 8's or 9's, but this old man can be exited by promising only good skills. I believe beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But we all know ugly when we 👀 it.
[QUOTE=TConor;2901779]In my opinion most BJ bar ladies are 2's to 4's. There skills may be 8's or 9's, but this old man can be exited by promising only good skills. I believe beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But we all know ugly when we 👀 it.[/QUOTE]I've seen 1's. I didn't even go look on my last run in.
I'm going to come in shortly, can I get any reports about Billboard?
[QUOTE=TConor;2901779]In my opinion most BJ bar ladies are 2's to 4's. There skills may be 8's or 9's, but this old man can be exited by promising only good skills. I believe beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But we all know ugly when we 👀 it.[/QUOTE]I would not put 7 Heaven in same universe as Lolita's and Kasalong. 7 Heaven girls are pretty and young (at least the ones we saw). And it's clean and well lit.
By contrast my one desperate Kasalong experience the lady was old not attractive and the facilities downright scary.
These don't belong in the same sentence IMO. Pay the extra few bucks and go to 7 Heaven. It's no contest.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2901918]I would not put 7 Heaven in same universe as Lolita's and Kasalong. 7 Heaven girls are pretty and young (at least the ones we saw). And it's clean and well lit.
By contrast my one desperate Kasalong experience the lady was old not attractive and the facilities downright scary.
These don't belong in the same sentence IMO. Pay the extra few bucks and go to 7 Heaven. It's no contest.[/QUOTE]I normally stay on Soi 8 when in Bangkok, so have been past Lolita's and Kasalong many times. Most of their girls go into the 'not even if it was free' category. Only been to 7th Heaven a couple of times, and the girls are a lot better looking even if it is 50% more expensive (and the 2 girl service leaves a lot to be desired).
[QUOTE=TConor;2901779]In my opinion most BJ bar ladies are 2's to 4's.[/QUOTE]You know the old English saying. You don't look at the mantlepiece while you're stoking the fire.
I normally visit SE Asia a couple of times a year during the English winter (typically November and March).
During these months the weather in Thailand is normally very nice. However, I was thinking of visiting July time this year which is middle of the rainy season. I've been to Singapore many times, which has a fairly consistent climate of about 160 mm of rain each month and didn't notice it being particularly rainy. Bangkok is about 180 mm during the rainy season, so it doesn't look much worse than Singapore is all year round. However, you do hear some horror stories about flooding in Bangkok when it rains.
So how wet is the wet season. Does it seriously impinge on nocturnal activities?
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2901943]I normally visit SE Asia a couple of times a year during the English winter (typically November and March).
During these months the weather in Thailand is normally very nice. However, I was thinking of visiting July time this year which is middle of the rainy season. I've been to Singapore many times, which has a fairly consistent climate of about 160 mm of rain each month and didn't notice it being particularly rainy. Bangkok is about 180 mm during the rainy season, so it doesn't look much worse than Singapore is all year round. However, you do hear some horror stories about flooding in Bangkok when it rains.
So how wet is the wet season. Does it seriously impinge on nocturnal activities?[/QUOTE]
The horror stories are probably to a large extent true, but I wouldn't let that stop me from coming.
There are days (evenings usually) when Bangkok will be flooded to the extent you will not be able to drive a car / get a taxi for a few hours as the roads are so flooded, and you should avoid walking at this time due to very real risks of electrocution or other bad things, but while the rainfall is heavy, it is also mostly over in an hour or two.
It's not bad enough to factor into my decisions on whether to go or not. Merly a minor annoyance occasionally when you're planning to meet someone, and they send you a picture of their flooded outside and say they can't come.
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2901932]You know the old English saying. You don't look at the mantlepiece while you're stoking the fire.[/QUOTE]That's part of the reason we fought a revolution. No taxation without representation, no more hideous monsters in the BJ bars.
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2901943]I normally visit SE Asia a couple of times a year during the English winter (typically November and March).
During these months the weather in Thailand is normally very nice. However, I was thinking of visiting July time this year which is middle of the rainy season. I've been to Singapore many times, which has a fairly consistent climate of about 160 mm of rain each month and didn't notice it being particularly rainy. Bangkok is about 180 mm during the rainy season, so it doesn't look much worse than Singapore is all year round. However, you do hear some horror stories about flooding in Bangkok when it rains.
So how wet is the wet season. Does it seriously impinge on nocturnal activities?[/QUOTE]If it just rains it's not a problem.
If it floods, however, beware. Don't Wade through the floods. There are things in the water. Horrible things, loathsome and bloodthirsty. The rain starts their life cycle and when it floods they are ready to feed. Hungry, slathering, needing the Taste of blood and flesh. You step in the flood, and the next thing you know, your feet have been stripped to the Bone as you scream and agony and the boys in brown attempt to pull you to safety.
The worst is at night, when they surf the floods in empty pizza boxes and plastic cups leading to the rending of Flesh not only below the water, but above. Think of the horror at you watch them swarm a lady boy ripping and tearing at the parts not needed anymore. I remember seeing a group of Indian tourists who were just happily sharing a Coke before the creatures surfed down on them with teeth slashing and chattering, leaving nothing but skeletons holding hands.
If you didn't know why Thailand empties out during rainy season, you do now. Beware.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2901813]I've seen 1's. I didn't even go look on my last run in.
I'm going to come in shortly, can I get any reports about Billboard?[/QUOTE]Billboard is packed almost every night and there are a lot of girls. I would say that the quality during has gone down a bit since around New Years. Barfined 6 girls this past trip and each time I was quoted 700 + 4000 for ST. Some would negotiate with me but others did not budge.
How do you get around? MRT & BTS are fine. I once saw a long tail boat and car fill up at the same station (this was not on Sukhumvitt or Ratchda). If this is a major concern stay near your favorite place to monger but this wouldn't make my top ten list of considerations when planning a trip to Thailand.
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2901943]I normally visit SE Asia a couple of times a year during the English winter (typically November and March).
During these months the weather in Thailand is normally very nice. However, I was thinking of visiting July time this year which is middle of the rainy season. I've been to Singapore many times, which has a fairly consistent climate of about 160 mm of rain each month and didn't notice it being particularly rainy. Bangkok is about 180 mm during the rainy season, so it doesn't look much worse than Singapore is all year round. However, you do hear some horror stories about flooding in Bangkok when it rains.
So how wet is the wet season. Does it seriously impinge on nocturnal activities?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2901931]I normally stay on Soi 8 when in Bangkok, so have been past Lolita's and Kasalong many times. Most of their girls go into the 'not even if it was free' category. Only been to 7th Heaven a couple of times, and the girls are a lot better looking even if it is 50% more expensive (and the 2 girl service leaves a lot to be desired).[/QUOTE]What was wrong with the 2 girl service?
[QUOTE=Werqweq;2902003]The horror stories are probably to a large extent true, but I wouldn't let that stop me from coming.
There are days (evenings usually) when Bangkok will be flooded to the extent you will not be able to drive a car / get a taxi for a few hours as the roads are so flooded, and you should avoid walking at this time due to very real risks of electrocution or other bad things, but while the rainfall is heavy, it is also mostly over in an hour or two.
It's not bad enough to factor into my decisions on whether to go or not. Merly a minor annoyance occasionally when you're planning to meet someone, and they send you a picture of their flooded outside and say they can't come.[/QUOTE]Though one should remain vigilant, but to say there is risk of electrocution in these months is stretching is too too much. One could get really frightened with this. Plus if its raining just get inside a massage parlour and enjoy indoors.
This was 20 years ago on my first trip. It was raining hard and I past by a metal sewer grate / drain. OMG! It was just like in the movies. Rats were pouring out of the sewers drains into the streets. Freaked me out.
[QUOTE=Werqweq;2902003]The horror stories are probably to a large extent true, but I wouldn't let that stop me from coming.
There are days (evenings usually) when Bangkok will be flooded to the extent you will not be able to drive a car / get a taxi for a few hours as the roads are so flooded, and you should avoid walking at this time due to very real risks of electrocution or other bad things, but while the rainfall is heavy, it is also mostly over in an hour or two.
It's not bad enough to factor into my decisions on whether to go or not. Merly a minor annoyance occasionally when you're planning to meet someone, and they send you a picture of their flooded outside and say they can't come.[/QUOTE]Or an ev 🚕.
[QUOTE=Ranvir226;2902081]Though one should remain vigilant, but to say there is risk of electrocution in these months is stretching is too too much. One could get really frightened with this. Plus if its raining just get inside a massage parlour and enjoy indoors.[/QUOTE]Plus the amount of covered walkways in Bangkok associated with the trains is amazing. Once you go up to the platform there are all kinds of interconnects and paths where you barely have to get wet if you are staying on some of the main lines.
I was in BKK in the dry season, cruising on water taxis on the Chao Phraya.
Noticed the concrete dike along old town and Chinatown is old and very high; the ground and houses next to the dike were about 10 feet lower than river level, even in the dry season.
Rainy season creeps me out.
[QUOTE=Ranvir226;2902081]Though one should remain vigilant, but to say there is risk of electrocution in these months is stretching is too too much. One could get really frightened with this. Plus if its raining just get inside a massage parlour and enjoy indoors.[/QUOTE]
You might think so, but just two summers ago I was walking out of the Marriot Marquis on Sukhumvit during flooding (they still have the best buffet in that area, at their Goji restaurant). The rain had stopped, but streets were still flooded, and taxi "home" was impossible to get, so I thought, like you say, it was a good time to get a massage at one of the nearby massage shops while waiting for the water to ebb and taxis to become available.
I was wearing sandals, so stepping into water was not a big problem, but after less than a minute of walking I felt a tingling in my whole body. Not necessarily being the sharpest pencil in the drawer, I for a moment wondered if it was the sight of a pretty young girl ready to massage me that was causing the tingling, but deduced that no, it was voltage running through my body.
You are free to go for a walk yourself of course, but I would not advise it. Being frightened about it may very much be the correct thing to be. And there may be other things than live wires in the water too.
I am a frequent traveller to Bangkok lately. I do not normally get time to indulge in pleasure as I got for work all the time. Last week I had an evening free. Stayed at Sukhumvit hotel this time. Walked to Thermae and it was full of girls. Took a beer nd walked two rounds to pick a girl. Picked a cutie. She quoted 3000 and no negotiation. Wen to room, and she was cute, but average body. Usual service, nothing special. Wham, bam, thank you ma'm.
Next night I went into one of the bars in nana plaza. The big one on left side after you enter. saw a cutie on stage who was very chatty and jumping around. Asked mama san to invited her over for a drink. She was very receptive to my roaming hands :) and very playful. Took her back to my room. 1000 bf and 3000 for her. She was an eye candy and behaved like my girlfriend..enjoyed her in all ways possible.
Perfect night for me. Will be back.
[QUOTE=AsianGeek;2902214]I am a frequent traveller to Bangkok lately. I do not normally get time to indulge in pleasure as I got for work all the time. Last week I had an evening free. Stayed at Sukhumvit hotel this time. Walked to Thermae and it was full of girls. Took a beer nd walked two rounds to pick a girl. Picked a cutie. She quoted 3000 and no negotiation. Wen to room, and she was cute, but average body. Usual service, nothing special. Wham, bam, thank you ma'm.
Next night I went into one of the bars in nana plaza. The big one on left side after you enter. saw a cutie on stage who was very chatty and jumping around. Asked mama san to invited her over for a drink. She was very receptive to my roaming hands :) and very playful. Took her back to my room. 1000 bf and 3000 for her. She was an eye candy and behaved like my girlfriend..enjoyed her in all ways possible.
Perfect night for me. Will be back.[/QUOTE]My recent experience at Thermae is they all start at 2800-3000. But many if not most will come down to 2100-2500 baht. Personally, coming from USA I don't mind paying 3000 for a GFE. What I do mind is inflexibility and rules. So, if she tells me no negotiation I move on as she will be the same way when you're fucking her. I take my time at Thermae and talk to a few of the girls. Then I circle back since they all know I have options. Funny thing is I'll negotiate them down and maybe give them what they originally asked for depending on good the sex after.
[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2901532]How did you like Emmanuelle, Tara or Maria? [/QUOTE]I'd say LaBelle is the best of them. I saw a decent lineup there on a Sunday night, so other days must be even better.
Emmanuelle is also very good and popular, so good to get there early. Their rooms are not as good as the others though.
Tara is a great option close to the airport. I found a good lineup there on a weekday afternoon.
Poseidon and Utopia were not as good by a wide margin.
Maria has most girls.
The most attractive girls I met were at Tara, LaBelle, Emmanuelle, BlackCaviar. The most money I paid was at Maria and Black Caviar.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2900356]The ticket requirement is usually airlines. Air Asia has never asked me. You buy your ticket out when you go for your extension.[/QUOTE]I've been asked to show my outbound ticket by the IO on a couple of occasions. The first IO made me buy a ticket out of Thailand on the spot before I was allowed entry. On both occasions when I was asked it was because I was nearing 180 days in Thailand for the year on a regular tourist Visa. Since I'm now a regular guy who barely spends 100 days in Thailand per year I have not been asked for an onward ticket on my last 3 visits.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2902313]I've been asked to show my outbound ticket by the IO on a couple of occasions. The first IO made me buy a ticket out of Thailand on the spot before I was allowed entry. On both occasions when I was asked it was because I was nearing 180 days in Thailand for the year on a regular tourist Visa. Since I'm now a regular guy who barely spends 100 days in Thailand per year I have not been asked for an onward ticket on my last 3 visits.[/QUOTE]My long term Cambodian Visa makes all the difference in my regular runs in.
Visited for few days, best option for young small cute girls was fiwfans so researched and tried 3 girls in 2 days before heading to Pattaya.
I've learned the face showing pics could represent but have nothing to do with the girl, the cutest girl there did not go with foreigners, and some of the reviews are filtered out.
Stating from worse to better.
[URL]https://fiwfans.io/sideline/406raeo03lrqnouxl[/URL] - cute hot boobs but not natural, showed me something in her lip and said no kissing, no BJ and not 69.
[URL]https://fiwfans.io/sideline/406raeal7lnhsqaoy[/URL] - cute hot, no kissing, short BJ and 69.
[URL]https://fiwfans.io/sideline/406raeejflqdph83k[/URL] - sweet amazing Lao girl, long kissing, sweet pussy, very pleasing.
Some are a little harder to get to but in the price rang of around 1,200 baht, it's ok to pay extra 300 for taxi.
I think that was the best way to find young cuties with reviews and service specifications although some are wrong.
On to Pattaya.
Question for you experts out there. I was in cowboy the other day and saw a lot of touching going on. If I buy a lady drink am I free to touch the girls?
[QUOTE=KinkiTourist;2902608]
[URL]https://fiwfans.io/sideline/406raeo03lrqnouxl[/URL] - ........................... said no kissing, no BJ and not 69. [/QUOTE]What did you do. Play cards for 30 minutes?
[QUOTE=KinkiTourist;2902608]Visited for few days, best option for young small cute girls was fiwfans so researched and tried 3 girls in 2 days before heading to Pattaya.
I've learned the face showing pics could represent but have nothing to do with the girl, the cutest girl there did not go with foreigners, and some of the reviews are filtered out.
Stating from worse to better.
[URL]https://fiwfans.io/sideline/406raeo03lrqnouxl[/URL] - cute hot boobs but not natural, showed me something in her lip and said no kissing, no BJ and not 69.
[URL]https://fiwfans.io/sideline/406raeal7lnhsqaoy[/URL] - cute hot, no kissing, short BJ and 69.
[URL]https://fiwfans.io/sideline/406raeejflqdph83k[/URL] - sweet amazing Lao girl, long kissing, sweet pussy, very pleasing..[/QUOTE]There is the best report ever telling folks why few fans is a waste of time for tourists. You fly all the way over there and then spend your time in your room looking at photoshopped pictures and machine translations then you need to spend $300 for a taxi to schlep somewhere in the middle of nowhere to get some 1200 b pussy that gives you an inferior time two out of three times you try.
And dude, I've played with few fans before and it's really easy to spend three or four hours just sitting there flipping through the Photoshop pictures. Meanwhile, you're in Bangkok, we're real live girls are everywhere and only that, there's a zillion things to see and do when you're not t dipping your Dangler Into the Depths of the dark dungeon.
Let's get down to the nitty gritty here. If you don't live in Bangkok, and are visiting on a short-term basis, you are a blatant idiot if you waste your time on fiw fans.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2900321]Small sample size but I wasn't asked to show my ticket out of Thailand for my last 2 entries. Sucks cause I bought a cheap throwaway ticket for both trips. I was asked where I'm going next. That's it. However, I wouldn't recommend flying in to Thailand on a regular tourist Visa without a ticket to leave.
What do you guys with 30 day extensions do? You can't show them a ticket leaving in 60 days if your initial tourist Visa is 30 days. Do you buy a throwaway ticket?
Ride sharing apps. Bolt is the best value. Grab is usually quicker for a ride. I heard Tada just started in BKK. I didn't get a chance to use it though.[/QUOTE]Myself and friends have never been asked to show tickets outbound from Thai immigration. Was you're in thailand, they don't give a shit. I was asked once by the airline when checking in on my inbound flight to thailand, before I left, and I just said I'm getting a train / bus to leave thailand to Laos / Cambodia and they said OK and that was it.
If you ever need a ticket though just find the cheapest bus or plane ticket you can and buy it, you can find stuff for like under US$20 or buy a fully refundable cheap one and refund it
[QUOTE=Professional;2902705]Question for you experts out there. I was in cowboy the other day and saw a lot of touching going on. If I buy a lady drink am I free to touch the girls?[/QUOTE]You can try, LOL Buying a lady girl gives you the opportunity touch the girl or try anything else you want. It's entirely up to the girl if she will allow you to do it. Most allow some amount of touching more if she wants you to barfine her. A few girls won't allow any or very little touching.
*On March 13,2024, in a land far, far away. *.
I arrived in Thailand after an abysmal experience in Korea, determined to put all the money I had saved in Seoul to good use on the streets of Bangkok. After a long train ride into the heart of the city, I took a shower and got spiffed up for what was sure to be a night of shameless debauchery.
I made a beeline for Soi Cowboy and arrived around 7 pm My disappointing experience in Korea had left me on the cusp of sexual starvation. Now I was at the buffet, and it was time to eat.
I ducked in and out of a couple of go-go bars on the strip, extracting myself as politely as possible without buying a drink after not liking what I saw on stage. In the third bar (I don't recall the name, it was near the east end), about a dozen girls were dancing enthusiastically on stage, so I sat down for a drink. One had a cute face, nice little bubble butt, a few tattoos in the right places, and was the most energetic dancer. She seemed to me to clearly be the pick of the litter, so I had the hostess bring her over to me for a lady drink. 21 years old, very shy and innocent personality. She was an oasis in the desert to me after Seoul, so it didn't take much for me to bar fine her. 4,000 baht was the price for 2 hours back at my room (1 k for bar, 3 k for her). I should have haggled, but I knew I would give in to whatever she demanded anyway and preferred to spare myself the humiliation.
Back at the hotel, she gave very half-hearted oral for about a minute and a half and then looked up at me in defeat. She was bad at it, she informed me, as if I couldn't tell. I offered to help her improve her skills, but it really wasn't a problem for me. I had other plans for this girl. I was lion who hadn't tasted meat for weeks, and she was a gazelle lying helplessly beneath my paw.
She let out a few soft moans and the occasional squeal as I intensely pounded her pussy in the missionary position. Once she was nice and creamy, I flipped her over and enjoyed her doggystyle, running my hands over her back tattoos as her cute little bubble butt slapped against my waist and thighs. We f*cked for well over an hour but I don't think she came even once. I was a tad disappointed, but not surprised as the young ones rarely do in my experience. As I was flipping her over to ride me, I saw we had a problem. There was blood on my condom. My pent up passion had summoned Aunt Flo.
This normally would not be the end of things, except for the fact that she could not give head, and there was zero chance of her getting me off with her mouth. So I didn't even suggest continuing. I offered to pay her half under the circumstances. She asked for 2 k with pleading eyes, and I couldn't say no to that, especially after the brutal pounding she had just endured. So, total damage done was 3 k, but I still hadn't blown my load.
Another quick shower and then it was time to try my luck on the street. I strolled briskly down Sukhumvit Road looking for my next mistake. It was a Wednesday night but the stretch between Nana and Soi Cowboy was loaded with women. Or at least people who looked like women. I would estimate at least 70-80 workers on that stretch a little after 10 pm. Most were probably lady boys but it's very hard for me to tell. I took a few numbers as I went along, making sure to ask each of them to confirm they were female. That is never something you can assume in Bangkok.
I didn't see any especially enticing options, but I was actually looking for one woman in particular. A Thai lady in her late 30's who goes by the name of "Ja. " Some of you on here may know who I am talking about. Charges 2 k for an hour, strictly requires payment in advance, and will not give out her number. She stands on the street in front of the Westin wearing a face mask on most nights. Super professional and hands down the tightest pussy I've come across. Just thinking about having her bent over in front of me makes me shudder.
Anyway, I didn't see Ja by the Westin, so I walk back toward the hotel and wind up at a go-go bar in Nana Plaza. As soon as I sit down, a slender Thai vixen pounces upon me like a mountain lion ambushing her prey. She is the Thai version of Jessica Simpson in the "These Boots Are Made For Walkin'" music video. Wearing nothing but a string bikini, she grinds her crotch rhythmically on my thigh with her be-cup chest in my face. I wrap my hand around her waist as my bulge starts to grow. It's been a while since I've come, and I'm literally throbbing with desire. It doesn't take her long to figure that out. She reaches down and gropes my crotch in an urgent way that immediately tells me she's as horny as I am. "Mhmm, I like you a lot," she coos as my manhood strains against her kneading fingers. This eastern tigress then flickers her tongue devilishly inside my ear and my arm shoots to the sky. "Check please!
Back at my hotel, we proceed to have what might have been the best sex of my life so far. This was not an emotionally sterile transaction between a professional and a client, as had invariably been my experience with Thai working girls to this point. It was a untamed release of mutual carnal lust and desire. It was a clear-everything-off-the-table.
I-need-you-right-here-and-now type of sex that you only see depicted in the crescendo scene of a movie after the sexual tension has built to a point that it could no longer be contained.
There was no talk of money, time, or boundaries. On our walk to the hotel, I kissed her passionately on the lips and she returned the kiss like she had never wanted anything more in this world. Once alone in the room, we ripped each other's clothes off and stumbled into the shower. She promptly dropped to her knees and inhaled my throbbing rod as the water poured over our bodies. "Is this heaven?" I thought to myself, as my head slumped back and I let out a deep groan. "No," said the character from Field of Dreams. "This is Thailand. ".
After drying off, the action moved to the bed where I was able to get up close and personal with the most picturesque clean shaven pussy I can remember laying eyes on. I was tempted to service her without protection, as she had done for me, but I came to my senses just in time and used a dental dam. This beautiful lady writhed and cried out in pleasure as my mouth worshipped her pussy for a solid 30 minutes. I was determined to generously reward her for saving me from another night of disappointment. And so with my hands cupped around her breasts and my mouth over her clit, my tongue lapped and swirled on her pussy until she was dripping wet and shaking with pleasure.
Next it was time for the main course. My balls tensed as I pulled on a condom and entered her tight but soaking wet pussy. I am certain she would not have protested in the least if I had taken her raw, but I always err on the side of safety in these situations.
Although usually that amount of wetness would have made it hard to generate any friction, she was so tight that it only helped my cock to glide smoothly in and out. After just a few strokes, I knew her body was at my mercy. She screamed like a banshee as I plowed her in both missionary and doggystyle. For 45 minutes, I never let up. I covered her neck with kisses and our tongues danced inside each other's mouths. Her fingernails dug into my back as orgasm after orgasm rippled through her body. She whined, she begged, she cursed. Mostly in English. And this woman was loud enough that the entire hotel, hell maybe the entire city, knew what was happening.
As I write this report, smitten with the memory of that glorious night, I have two fine bruises on my shoulder in the shape of her mouth. I usually prefer to finish in doggystyle, but her pussy was such a perfectly snug fit for my cock that I couldn't resist busting inside her with her legs wrapped around my waist. After blowing my load, I collapsed into her arms, both of us drenched with sweat. It was a euphoric experience I will not soon forget.
Even with the deed done, she didn't ask for payment. Instead, I made the first move and gave her the 3 k I owed her. But rather than part, we layed in bed and talked for a while. Not too many personal details. She was in her mid-30's as it turned out but had ten times the energy of the 21-year-old I'd had earlier that night. She suggested we take a trip somewhere like Phuket in the future. I got her number. Then we went out together to another go-go bar where she used to work from 1-2 am, where I spent another 760 baht buying drinks for her and her friends that worked there. After the bar closed, she had to go home with one of the mamasans at the bar who she carpooled with. I kissed her goodnight and told her I would see her again the following night.
Bottom line: this woman was everything I was hoping to find in Thailand and more. Definitely the best 5 k baht (drinks included) I've ever spent.
However, the night was still not over.
But the thing was, my first night in Bangkok was still not over. Some mongers would quit while they were ahead and call it a night. But some are incorrigible and insatiable. And on that night, I fell squarely into the latter category.
So I took another shower and hit the street at 2:30 am, with the single-minded goal of finding Ja. Seventy-five catcalls later, there she was, standing in her usual spot in front of the Westin. She didn't seem the least bit thrilled to see me, but that's just the way she is. Ja is very stoic but actually has a tender heart beneath that cold exterior. I thought all Thai working ladies were that way before I ran into my dream girl earlier that night.
Ja quoted me the usual "special" rate for me - 2 k baht for 2 hours. That was great, but I just got off a long flight and needed rest, I told her. The truth, of course, was that I had already spent 3. 5 of the previous six hours copulating with two other women, and my body needed to recover. That's too bad, she told me, because she was leaving town the next day and wouldn't be back for several days. Ja is a straight shooter and I knew she wasn't bullshitting. So I had a choice to make: suck it up and bang my favorite Bangkok street lady for pocket change, or possibly never get the opportunity again.
The choice was easy.
I didn't travel to the other side of the world to just miss out on the tightest pussy I've ever found anywhere. Besides, I was determined to compare Ja's pussy and performance to my latest tryst. And how better to do that than to experience both of them back-to-back on the same night. These are the situations that sexual stimulants are made for. So I told Ja that I needed to go back to the hotel and rest for a minute, and I'd return at 4 am To take her back with me. I hurried back to the room; popped a couple of pills, and relaxed while they took effect in my body. Ten minutes to four, I felt that familiar involuntary swelling in my dick and I ran down to hail a taxi. Ja was still there waiting for me.
I got her back to the room and she reminded me as soon as I got my clothes off of her pay-up-front rule. That was the first red flag. It's true that is how we had done it before, but I was young and naiive back then. Still, I stupidly agreed to it for old time's sake. As I reached for my wallet, she informed that she needed another 500 baht to help fund her daughter's education. With my pants down and the drugs coursing through my body, I wasn't about to raise a fuss over 500 baht, and she knew it. Ja had me right where she wanted me.
She started to put a condom on me for oral, but I demanded service with no condom as we had done before. She obliged but gave a the minus effort during the act. After a five-minute mediocre BBBJ, Ja insisted that I wear one of "her" condoms because she supposedly did not trust the safety of my Trojan Magnums. I protested hard but she wouldn't budge on it and I knew I had no.
Leverage because I already handed all the money over. Important lesson to note here, guys. Never pay 100% up front. It never turns out well. So I had no choice but to wear a condom that was way too small for my raging drug-induced hard-on. This was all part of Ja's plan.
Upset but still determined to try to get my money's worth, I hammered away on her pussy in the missionary position. She was bone dry and I had conveniently forgot to bring my lubricant on this trip (of course she denied having any either). Between the dryness, extreme tightness, and the miniature condom cutting off my circulation, it was far from a pleasurable experience.
It occurred to me then that this was all by design. Two years my senior, Ja was an expert in bedroom strategy. She knew the kind of stamina I had and understood that the only way she would make it out of my room at a decent hour and still able to walk straight was with a coordinated plan of attack. And she executed that plan to perfection. It soon became obvious why she had no issue agreeing to 2 hours even though we began in the wee hours of the morning. She knew she would be rid of me in 40 minutes or less. I was fighting a losing battle, and I knew it.
I made my last stand pounding Ja from behind in doggy. Even though my dick was practically numb from the loss of circulation, I took great satisfaction in knowing she was finally getting some payback. Her whimpers and yelps told me that she was counting down every second until my assault from behind finally ended. But I wasn't going to let her off the hook easy. Oh no. With Ja's ass in the air and her pussy squeezing my swollen phallus, I fantasized that I was taking her against her will. The taboo thought fueled my arousal and helped me stay rock hard despite the dismal conditions.
Eventually, I accepted the reality that there was no way I could cum in that condom, and I pulled out, much to her relief. Before I could suggest another position, Ja immediately announced that it was very late and she was tired. It was almost 5:00 in the morning and she is a single mother with a day job. I was aware of that and I sympathized with her. I started to suggest that she get me off with her mouth, but I knew that would be a futile endeavor in her exhausted and unmotivated state. Instead, she had another plan to get me off along. Before I could even react, she sat Indian-style in front of me on the bed and finished me with a rough and slimy handjob. Her nails cut into the bottom of my cockhead as her wrist gyrated at lightning speed. My fate was sealed before I could even protest.
I am sure Ja was rougher than necessary to return the favor for the punishment I had just doled out to her pussy. Karma is real and no one knows that better than the Thais. The result was a headache-inducing, zero-to-sixty forced ejaculation that sent sperm flying two feet into the air. After the first jet erupted from my body, she immediately pulled her hand away while I was still in the throes of orgasm. My helpless pleas for her to finish the job and coax the rest of the cum out of my shaft fell on deaf ears. As she got dressed, Ja asked how many women I had before her that day. I feigned innocence and she rolled her eyes. She knew exactly what I had been up to and I have to at least give her credit for being so astute. A quick peck on the cheek and Ja was gone into the night.
It didn't take long for the sobering realization to set in. I had effed up. On the bright side, I had just had intense, prolonged sex with three exotic Thai ladies in the span of 9 hours, and a part of me was proud of myself for that. But now I had a sore dick and my wallet was 10 k lighter, half of which had essentially been wasted. I knew there would be no more sex for me tomorrow. My body needed to recover. My rough experience with Ja had put me out of service, and I cursed myself for letting her have her way. I would gladly have paid 2500 baht in that moment to have my load back so I could go another round with my new lover the following night. But now that wasn't going to happen. My greed had caught up to me.
The next day I slept for about 14 hours. I woke up around 10 am And sent my new favorite lady a cheeky good morning message. Then I fell back asleep and didn't wake up until around 9 pm I had a message from her asking if I would come see her again that night. As much as I wanted to see her, I knew it would be a bad idea. Seeing her would mean sex, and I wasn't about to water down our legendary opening act with a pathetic follow up. On top of that, I was in uncharted territory. I had never had success with a bar girl before and I wasn't sure of the protocol. The idea of paying another bar fine when I had this woman's digits and she was clearly into me and had suggested that we take trips together didn't seem right. Or was it all just an act to bait me into becoming a regular client? A modus operandi. If so, I wasn't taking the bait. Not now at least. I wanted to see if she saw me as something other than a customer.
So I messaged her around midnight that my body was still adjusting to the time difference and I didn't feel like going out that night, but that she was welcome to come over and visit me after work. She didn't. No real excuse given, just sorry we couldn't get together. And that was that as far as I was concerned. She was probably upset that I didn't go to see her as I had promised, but there was nothing I could do. Maybe I'll see her again in the future.
The following night was my last night in Bangkok. I got a little antsy and decided to give one of the street walkers who had been messaging me a try. Name was Mimew. Asked for 3 k but immediately agreed to my 2250 counter. I had met this lady on the first night and had directly asked her if she was a lady boy. She said she wasn't. "Are you sure?" I taunted, staring down into her eyes with my face nearly touching hers. Yes, she said. And I believed her, so I took her number. She looked pretty good and had a nice full rack of fake boobs on a slender petite body. No way she could be a lady boy, right?
Well, I think you already know how this ends.
Red flag number one was that Mimew pulled down the curtain when "she" entered the bathroom to tidy up. The other three women had no problem showering or undressing in plain view. This immediately aroused my suspicions that something was off.
Mimew steps out of the bathroom fully naked and has what appears to be a well-trimmed pussy. "Her" body appears femine, petite even, with silky smooth skin. I offer to go down on Mimew with a dental dam but "she" declined saying that she didn't like that. Another major red flag, but Ja had also declined in a similar fashion so not enough to sound the alarm. Mimew then gets on the bed and proceeds to give me a BBBJ from the side. It was quality service, and I was really hoping I was just being paranoid.
Next, Mimew says "she" wants to ride me and asks if I have any KY Jelly. A third red flag, but this one completely got past me because I had already been cursing myself for not bringing any lubricant during my session with Ja. I told her I didn't, and she appeared very distraught about it. Too distraught. Mimew then guides my cock into the area underneath her crotch, which from my view from about two feet above, still look like a woman's anatomy. However, once my cock was inside and I had a few thrusts, I knew I'd been fooled. I pulled out and smelled the distinct odor of ass.
Still, I didn't want to argue or embarrass Mimew. I just told "her" it wasn't working for me. I offered to pay Mimew 1000 baht, which "she" eagerly accepted. After all, "she" had at least provided good oral service. Mimew profusely apologized but I told "her" it was alright. We both knew what was up. I actually was a bit impressed by the boldness and attention to detail in attempting to deceive me. It was definitely a lesson learned.
After that humilating episode, I was more than ready to get out of Thailand and move on to the Philippines.
[QUOTE=GrapeMan;2902797]Myself and friends have never been asked to show tickets outbound from Thai immigration. Was you're in thailand, they don't give a shit. I was asked once by the airline when checking in on my inbound flight to thailand, before I left, and I just said I'm getting a train / bus to leave thailand to Laos / Cambodia and they said OK and that was it.
If you ever need a ticket though just find the cheapest bus or plane ticket you can and buy it, you can find stuff for like under US$20 or buy a fully refundable cheap one and refund it[/QUOTE]Google it and rent a ticket for 16 $ before the flight, works like magic.
You welcome.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2902783]
Let's get down to the nitty gritty here. If you don't live in Bangkok, and are visiting on a short-term basis, you are a blatant idiot if you waste your time on fiw fans.[/QUOTE]Alright sir, thanks for the addons, could you please specify some more what would you recommend?
I love young, small sort of naive and inexperienced girls. In Pattaya, I find them even on Soi 6. In bkk, Couldn't find them on Soi cowboi, nana, and definitely not on the streets.
Your description sounds appealing, would love to hear some examples, thanks.
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2902719]What did you do. Play cards for 30 minutes?[/QUOTE]LOL. Why would we play cards when I can fuck her in multiple positions until she can't no more then I finish and go.
[QUOTE=KinkiTourist;2902854]Alright sir, thanks for the addons, could you please specify some more what would you recommend?
I love young, small sort of naive and inexperienced girls. In Pattaya, I find them even on Soi 6. In bkk, Couldn't find them on Soi cowboi, nana, and definitely not on the streets.
Your description sounds appealing, would love to hear some examples, thanks.[/QUOTE]Well you can wade for hours thru FIWfans photoshoppees, or go over to Thermae or some other venue.
An hour! And multiple times
[QUOTE=KapnAmerica;2902830]*On March 13,2024, in a land far, far away. *.
I arrived in Thailand after an abysmal experience in Korea, determined to put all the money I had saved in Seoul to good use on the streets of Bangkok. After a long train ride into the heart of the city, I took a shower and got spiffed up for what was sure to be a night of shameless debauchery.
I made a beeline for Soi Cowboy and arrived around 7 pm My disappointing experience in Korea had left me on the cusp of sexual starvation. Now I was at the buffet, and it was time to eat.
I ducked in and out of a couple of go-go bars on the strip, extracting myself as politely as possible without buying a drink after not liking what I saw on stage. In the third bar (I don't recall the name, it was near the east end), about a dozen girls were dancing enthusiastically on stage, so I sat down for a drink. One had a cute face, nice little bubble butt, a few tattoos in the right places, and was the most energetic dancer. She seemed to me to clearly be the pick of the litter, so I had the hostess bring her over to me for a lady drink. 21 years old, very shy and innocent personality. She was an oasis in the desert to me after Seoul, so it didn't take much for me to bar fine her. 4,000 baht was the price for 2 hours back at my room (1 k for bar, 3 k for her). I should have haggled, but I knew I would give in to whatever she demanded anyway and preferred to spare myself the humiliation.
Back at the hotel, she gave very half-hearted oral for about a minute and a half and then looked up at me in defeat. She was bad at it, she informed me, as if I couldn't tell. I offered to help her improve her skills, but it really wasn't a problem for me. I had other plans for this girl. I was lion who hadn't tasted meat for weeks, and she was a gazelle lying helplessly beneath my paw.
She let out a few soft moans and the occasional squeal as I intensely pounded her pussy in the missionary position. Once she was nice and creamy, I flipped her over and enjoyed her doggystyle, running my hands over her back tattoos as her cute little bubble butt slapped against my waist and thighs. We f*cked for well over an hour but I don't think she came even once. I was a tad disappointed, but not surprised as the young ones rarely do in my experience. As I was flipping her over to ride me, I saw we had a problem. There was blood on my condom. My pent up passion had summoned Aunt Flo.
This normally would not be the end of things, except for the fact that she could not give head, and there was zero chance of her getting me off with her mouth. So I didn't even suggest continuing. I offered to pay her half under the circumstances. She asked for 2 k with pleading eyes, and I couldn't say no to that, especially after the brutal pounding she had just endured. So, total damage done was 3 k, but I still hadn't blown my load.
Another quick shower and then it was time to try my luck on the street. I strolled briskly down Sukhumvit Road looking for my next mistake. It was a Wednesday night but the stretch between Nana and Soi Cowboy was loaded with women. Or at least people who looked like women. I would estimate at least 70-80 workers on that stretch a little after 10 pm. Most were probably lady boys but it's very hard for me to tell. I took a few numbers as I went along, making sure to ask each of them to confirm they were female. That is never something you can assume in Bangkok.
I didn't see any especially enticing options, but I was actually looking for one woman in particular. A Thai lady in her late 30's who goes by the name of "Ja. " Some of you on here may know who I am talking about. Charges 2 k for an hour, strictly requires payment in advance, and will not give out her number. She stands on the street in front of the Westin wearing a face mask on most nights. Super professional and hands down the tightest pussy I've come across. Just thinking about having her bent over in front of me makes me shudder.
Anyway, I didn't see Ja by the Westin, so I walk back toward the hotel and wind up at a go-go bar in Nana Plaza. As soon as I sit down, a slender Thai vixen pounces upon me like a mountain lion ambushing her prey. She is the Thai version of Jessica Simpson in the "These Boots Are Made For Walkin'" music video. Wearing nothing but a string bikini, she grinds her crotch rhythmically on my thigh with her be-cup chest in my face. I wrap my hand around her waist as my bulge starts to grow. It's been a while since I've come, and I'm literally throbbing with desire. It doesn't take her long to figure that out. She reaches down and gropes my crotch in an urgent way that immediately tells me she's as horny as I am. "Mhmm, I like you a lot," she coos as my manhood strains against her kneading fingers. This eastern tigress then flickers her tongue devilishly inside my ear and my arm shoots to the sky. "Check please!
Back at my hotel, we proceed to have what might have been the best sex of my life so far. This was not an emotionally sterile transaction between a professional and a client, as had invariably been my experience with Thai working girls to this point. It was a untamed release of mutual carnal lust and desire. It was a clear-everything-off-the-table.
I-need-you-right-here-and-now type of sex that you only see depicted in the crescendo scene of a movie after the sexual tension has built to a point that it could no longer be contained.
There was no talk of money, time, or boundaries. On our walk to the hotel, I kissed her passionately on the lips and she returned the kiss like she had never wanted anything more in this world. Once alone in the room, we ripped each other's clothes off and stumbled into the shower. She promptly dropped to her knees and inhaled my throbbing rod as the water poured over our bodies. "Is this heaven?" I thought to myself, as my head slumped back and I let out a deep groan. "No," said the character from Field of Dreams. "This is Thailand. ".
After drying off, the action moved to the bed where I was able to get up close and personal with the most picturesque clean shaven pussy I can remember laying eyes on. I was tempted to service her without protection, as she had done for me, but I came to my senses just in time and used a dental dam. This beautiful lady writhed and cried out in pleasure as my mouth worshipped her pussy for a solid 30 minutes. I was determined to generously reward her for saving me from another night of disappointment. And so with my hands cupped around her breasts and my mouth over her clit, my tongue lapped and swirled on her pussy until she was dripping wet and shaking with pleasure.
Next it was time for the main course. My balls tensed as I pulled on a condom and entered her tight but soaking wet pussy. I am certain she would not have protested in the least if I had taken her raw, but I always err on the side of safety in these situations.
Although usually that amount of wetness would have made it hard to generate any friction, she was so tight that it only helped my cock to glide smoothly in and out. After just a few strokes, I knew her body was at my mercy. She screamed like a banshee as I plowed her in both missionary and doggystyle. For 45 minutes, I never let up. I covered her neck with kisses and our tongues danced inside each other's mouths. Her fingernails dug into my back as orgasm after orgasm rippled through her body. She whined, she begged, she cursed. Mostly in English. And this woman was loud enough that the entire hotel, hell maybe the entire city, knew what was happening.
As I write this report, smitten with the memory of that glorious night, I have two fine bruises on my shoulder in the shape of her mouth. I usually prefer to finish in doggystyle, but her pussy was such a perfectly snug fit for my cock that I couldn't resist busting inside her with her legs wrapped around my waist. After blowing my load, I collapsed into her arms, both of us drenched with sweat. It was a euphoric experience I will not soon forget.
Even with the deed done, she didn't ask for payment. Instead, I made the first move and gave her the 3 k I owed her. But rather than part, we layed in bed and talked for a while. Not too many personal details. She was in her mid-30's as it turned out but had ten times the energy of the 21-year-old I'd had earlier that night. She suggested we take a trip somewhere like Phuket in the future. I got her number. Then we went out together to another go-go bar where she used to work from 1-2 am, where I spent another 760 baht buying drinks for her and her friends that worked there. After the bar closed, she had to go home with one of the mamasans at the bar who she carpooled with. I kissed her goodnight and told her I would see her again the following night.
Bottom line: this woman was everything I was hoping to find in Thailand and more. Definitely the best 5 k baht (drinks included) I've ever spent.
However, the night was still not over.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2903003]Well you can wade for hours thru FIWfans photoshoppees, or go over to Thermae or some other venue.[/QUOTE]Absolutely agree. One thing I never understood about guys going to Thailand. Some spend more time online looking for a girl and hoping it's not a transgender or completely fake photos than just walking out the door and picking up a girl IRL. So many girls and options in Bangkok and Pattaya that seem better to me than sitting in my hotel room.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2903277]Absolutely agree. One thing I never understood about guys going to Thailand. Some spend more time online looking for a girl and hoping it's not a transgender or completely fake photos than just walking out the door and picking up a girl IRL. So many girls and options in Bangkok and Pattaya that seem better to me than sitting in my hotel room.[/QUOTE]Pretty much my opinion as well. TF, fiwfans, etc. Just isn't for most people. This forum and others put WAY too much emphasis on them for no good reason. I get if you live there its a strong option, but for almost all other people going to Thailand, its just not particularly good or efficient since you have so many easy in person options.
Thermae, gogos, MPs, are all just easier, faster, often better options, and you don't have to go all over town or deal with messaging back and forth and flakey girls and questionable performances. I get if there's some fiwfans girl you have to have, but that's got to be the rare exception.
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2901943]I normally visit SE Asia a couple of times a year during the English winter (typically November and March).
During these months the weather in Thailand is normally very nice. However, I was thinking of visiting July time this year which is middle of the rainy season. I've been to Singapore many times, which has a fairly consistent climate of about 160 mm of rain each month and didn't notice it being particularly rainy. Bangkok is about 180 mm during the rainy season, so it doesn't look much worse than Singapore is all year round. However, you do hear some horror stories about flooding in Bangkok when it rains.
So how wet is the wet season. Does it seriously impinge on nocturnal activities?[/QUOTE]
It can't be luck, because I don't have any, I'm just one unlucky bastard, I'm basically like Sam Jackson's character from Unbreakable. So the fact that with all my trips to Bangkok, and literally not once have I encountered a flood, makes me wonder how bad can it be? In this day and age of so-called news reporting with any number of opinions, gaslighting, and conspiracy theories, I'll even throw in my two cents and say it might not even be real.
Unless I've actually experienced it myself, I'll just go ahead and say there's no such thing as flooding in Bangkok, or at least no where near as bad as people say it is. You know why fellas? Cause how can bad things happen in a paradise like Bangkok?
So back to my point of luck. Follow me here. I'm very unlucky, and if Bangkok tends to flood, and my trips to Bangkok in the past have been random, surely one of those trips I would have been flooded out. But never happened, not even during the so-called rainy season, I. E. It doesn't actually flood. Makes sense to me.
Dudes, if you've experienced south east Asia as much as I have you'll know there's only 2 kinds of weather there. It's raining, or it's not. This talk of 'seasons' is just weird. It's the tropics, near the equator, friggin 12 hours of day, 12 hours of night, every day of the year, rinse and repeat, no deviations. Bring an umbrella for the rain, wear a hat and sunscreen for the relentless sun. That's it. Seasons? Weather? Beelzebub wept.
[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2903466]It can't be luck, because I don't have any, I'm just one unlucky bastard, I'm basically like Sam Jackson's character from Unbreakable. So the fact that with all my trips to Bangkok, and literally not once have I encountered a flood, makes me wonder how bad can it be? In this day and age of so-called news reporting with any number of opinions, gaslighting, and conspiracy theories, I'll even throw in my two cents and say it might not even be real.
Unless I've actually experienced it myself, I'll just go ahead and say there's no such thing as flooding in Bangkok, or at least no where near as bad as people say it is. You know why fellas? Cause how can bad things happen in a paradise like Bangkok?
So back to my point of luck. Follow me here. I'm very unlucky, and if Bangkok tends to flood, and my trips to Bangkok in the past have been random, surely one of those trips I would have been flooded out. But never happened, not even during the so-called rainy season, I. E. It doesn't actually flood. Makes sense to me.
Dudes, if you've experienced south east Asia as much as I have you'll know there's only 2 kinds of weather there. It's raining, or it's not. This talk of 'seasons' is just weird. It's the tropics, near the equator, friggin 12 hours of day, 12 hours of night, every day of the year, rinse and repeat, no deviations. Bring an umbrella for the rain, wear a hat and sunscreen for the relentless sun. That's it. Seasons? Weather? Beelzebub wept.[/QUOTE]So you moved now from your cries for help based on your fantasy notions of Thailand to telling us about conditions on the ground during rainy season. Exactly how many days have you spent in Thailand over the past 30 years? 25?
Dudes, when it rains enough to flood, it floods. Even When it doesn't flood, the traffic gets worse. The city is barely above sea level, built on mud and riddled with old canals and ancient infrastructure.
And if you don't think there is a difference beyween the weather in Bangkok in November and the weather in May, you are mreley exposing your ign orance of what it is like there.
You should confine yourself to your You Tube fanatasy world. This place is for legit info, even though its lost sometimes in porn novels, dick measuring and stupidity. Don't add to the last point.
[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2903466][b] How bad is it really?[/b]
It can't be luck, because I don't have any, I'm just one unlucky bastard, I'm basically like Sam Jackson's character from Unbreakable. So the fact that with all my trips to Bangkok, and literally not once have I encountered a flood, makes me wonder how bad can it be? In this day and age of so-called news reporting with any number of opinions, gaslighting, and conspiracy theories, I'll even throw in my two cents and say it might not even be real.
Unless I've actually experienced it myself, I'll just go ahead and say there's no such thing as flooding in Bangkok, or at least no where near as bad as people say it is. You know why fellas? Cause how can bad things happen in a paradise like Bangkok?
So back to my point of luck. Follow me here. I'm very unlucky, and if Bangkok tends to flood, and my trips to Bangkok in the past have been random, surely one of those trips I would have been flooded out. But never happened, not even during the so-called rainy season, I. E. It doesn't actually flood. Makes sense to me.
Dudes, if you've experienced south east Asia as much as I have you'll know there's only 2 kinds of weather there. It's raining, or it's not. This talk of 'seasons' is just weird. It's the tropics, near the equator, friggin 12 hours of day, 12 hours of night, every day of the year, rinse and repeat, no deviations. Bring an umbrella for the rain, wear a hat and sunscreen for the relentless sun. That's it. Seasons? Weather? Beelzebub wept.[/QUOTE]I have lived in or very near the ground zero Red Light areas of Bangkok for the past 12 years and I can't recall one time where I was prevented or even discouraged from doing anything, going anywhere I wanted for mongering, dining, shopping, whatever for more than 1 hour in an entire day due to the weather. And that is either rain, heat or both.
Flooding? I vaguely recall a time 10-11 years ago when I stepped off a curb into above ankle deep water because there was no other way around it. Got my shoe tops and lower pants legs wet. I could have and should have just had a pair of 60 baht flip flops from the nearest 7-11 with me to change into at such a time of year but didn't bother. Oh well. I got over it.
As my granny told me when I used rain as an excuse not to go outside, "You won't melt, you're not made of sugar. ".
During rainy season I slide one of those small 7 inch long umbrellas into my sock, next to my ankle and under my pants leg. Don't even have to carry it in my hand and nobody knows it's there until I reach down and whip it out at the first sign of rain.
In the hot season I just postpone all my 20 kilometer hikes and jogs until after sundown and spend a little more time in the air-conditioned bars, restaurants and malls, which if one can walk in a straight line for 10 minutes without encountering one around here I have never been in that part of town.
Really, the weather is never so bad here that one ought to cancel a planned trip over it, imo.
[QUOTE=GrapeMan;2903390]Pretty much my opinion as well. TF, fiwfans, etc. Just isn't for most people. This forum and others put WAY too much emphasis on them for no good reason. I get if you live there its a strong option, but for almost all other people going to Thailand, its just not particularly good or efficient since you have so many easy in person options.
Thermae, gogos, MPs, are all just easier, faster, often better options, and you don't have to go all over town or deal with messaging back and forth and flakey girls and questionable performances. I get if there's some fiwfans girl you have to have, but that's got to be the rare exception.[/QUOTE]Wish you were right, sadly, I haven't seen any girls comes close to the average Fiwfan model type in all these places. Maybe you know about a certain bar that has them so I'd love to know about it.
[QUOTE=KinkiTourist;2903535]Wish you were right, sadly, I haven't seen any girls comes close to the average Fiwfan model type in all these places. Maybe you know about a certain bar that has them so I'd love to know about it.[/QUOTE]Your right, you should just confine yourself to FIW fans. Nothing else will do for you.
For normal folks, don't waste your time.
[QUOTE=KinkiTourist;2902854]Alright sir, thanks for the addons, could you please specify some more what would you recommend?
I love young, small sort of naive and inexperienced girls. In Pattaya, I find them even on Soi 6. In bkk, Couldn't find them on Soi cowboi, nana, and definitely not on the streets.
Your description sounds appealing, would love to hear some examples, thanks.[/QUOTE]I suggest trying La Belle or Maria (soapies). I've had good luck finding girls as you've described at both. Tell the guy what you're looking for, and take your time. Of the two, I'd perhaps start at La Belle. Show up around 7:15-7:30pm.
Hello guys, I will be one night next week in transit in Don Muang, ID there is any place to go nearby? As I arrive at 9. 00 pm and leave early would like to find something near.
Did any one try Bangkok69 escort service as they are some model near Don muang?
Thank for your help.
I was on a 5 days trip to Bangkok in the second week of March and for old times sake, on one of the days I decided to try Tara. I had previously experienced Tara (previously Tarawadee, I think) nearly 8-9 yrs ago and had fond memories of it. So here's the below:
1. Ambience is quite nice, much like a luxury hotel. Booked a 4 BHK as we were 4 of us.
2. Girls were pretty much average, nothing drop dead. Different sections with different rates.
3. Selected a thin girl, who looked very cute but I knew she was going to be small boobies.
4. Had a few beers, and then got into the room.
5. Sex was pretty much average. I lasted quite a bit and perhaps she got tired. Took her is various position.
6. My friends experience was pretty much similar, nothing to write home about.
Total damages for the 4 of us was arnd 46 k baht. Wld I recommend it. Not at all. I found much more value for money on my other days. Next FR to follow.
Last night's report.
90% of the vendors have been cleaned off of Suk. There are no weed sellers at all, my friend told me that the cops haven't getting pressure from the legitimate weed places because they get undercut. I'll know more later.
The streets were astonishingly clean and easy to navigate. There were no Africans. Ladyboy is at a minimum. There were troops of tourist police going up and down the street between terminal 21 and soy Nana. That stopped at around midnight so the hookers started crawling out but there was an extreme shortage even for a Monday. Chinese tourists were typically typically peasant like. Thermae was packed with all sorts of hotties. It was a very fun night for me as one of my regulars needed some good loving. I won't post the details because I don't want anybody's mind to be polluted by the visual of my flabby ass bouncing up and down on some girl 1/3 my age.
I forgot to mention that some evidently Chinese dude pushed a girl in the termae last night and started screaming at her. I was first on the scene before the staff but unfortunately I didn't get a chance to do a beatdown. I think they took care of that outside.
You lasted quite a bit and she got tired.
Another FR about lasting for a while.
Is it normal for a man?
[QUOTE=SeekingEye;2903791]I was on a 5 days trip to Bangkok in the second week of March and for old times sake, on one of the days I decided to try Tara. I had previously experienced Tara (previously Tarawadee, I think) nearly 8-9 yrs ago and had fond memories of it. So here's the below:
1. Ambience is quite nice, much like a luxury hotel. Booked a 4 BHK as we were 4 of us.
2. Girls were pretty much average, nothing drop dead. Different sections with different rates.
3. Selected a thin girl, who looked very cute but I knew she was going to be small boobies.
4. Had a few beers, and then got into the room.
5. Sex was pretty much average. I lasted quite a bit and perhaps she got tired. Took her is various position.
6. My friends experience was pretty much similar, nothing to write home about.
Total damages for the 4 of us was arnd 46 k baht. Wld I recommend it. Not at all. I found much more value for money on my other days. Next FR to follow.[/QUOTE]
Part 2 contd:
On my trip I lived at Marriot Executive Apartments on Sukhumvit. On the second night itself I discovered a massage place which was owned by a beautiful lady called Alisha, walking distance from the hotel. I think the name was Jazzy massage (not too sure, but this was near a Candy massage). Alisha the owner is hot and I really wanted to fuck her but she cldnt leave the shop and I didn't want to fuck at her place, so decided to try the girls who were available. Kitty, Fom, Jenny back at the hotel. Took one each night for 2 rounds. It was an absolute value for money. Paid arnd 4000 baht for 2 shots and they were fantastic. The only downer was that Kitty and Fom werent too much into DFK but Jenny was. Had great sessions with all of them but loved my session wiht Jenny the most due to her pleasant disposition.
I wld go back to this place next time, everytime! Happy to share Alisha's number.
By the way, I also hooked a girl called Brinks (real name Pear) from smooci. She was petite but all natural. She was highly rated on the site and she charged 7 k baht for 2. Was a good experience but again DFK not really there. After discovering Alisha's place I wld not go back to Brinks.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2903907] Ladyboy is at a minimum. [/QUOTE]Still recovering from the dust up they had on Soi 11 a couple of weeks ago?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2903277]Absolutely agree. One thing I never understood about guys going to Thailand. Some spend more time online looking for a girl and hoping it's not a transgender or completely fake photos than just walking out the door and picking up a girl IRL. So many girls and options in Bangkok and Pattaya that seem better to me than sitting in my hotel room.[/QUOTE]Let me answer that for you. If you're simply looking to get a covered fuck then gogo's, beer bars, thermae and even street freelancers more convenient at least in Thailand. But if you're wanting BBFS, or more of a GFE experience without mechanical clock watching than the online game might be worth the investment. At least for me it's been. I've learned not to start too early (maybe 3 weeks before trip at most) and since it's a numbers game being smart about quickly weeding out the candidates. I've met girls online that spent hours more with me for nothing but the initial fee paid and were great GFE experiences. Or that came back day 2 for no fee other than dinner and a nice time. Many keep in touch through what's app for my next trip. But you're correct it takes time and effort and is not for everyone.
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2904056]Still recovering from the dust up they had on Soi 11 a couple of weeks ago?[/QUOTE]I don't know but they're out in forest right now, although my favorite person is the dude that stands in front of the term a wearing a soccer Jersey with the name slime and the number 88.
Does ThaiFriendly work as effectively in Bangkok as in Pattaya? I am seeing many good looking profiles mentioning "looking for long term" or "not a pr*stitute". Didn't see such profiles much in Pattaya. Should I approach them?
Stopped into Bangkok after 5 days in Pattaya. We stayed near Nana Plaza and spent our days and nights in there. The pool bars along Nana are good fun and some of the daytime and evening ladies are worth investing time and money with. My wingman and I took a couple back during the day and got numbers of some as back up for the night. The girls were late 20's early 30's and did put a lot of effort into their work. They were good performers and provided DFK and loved DATY. All responded with very nice BBBJ.
The night action for us was around the agogos in Nana. We stopped into the Rainbow ones but found it hard to engage with the girls who only wanted drinks or rejected our offer to drink altogether. Figure as farangs we were not their type? No issue as we moved to a place willing to take our money. We stopped into Billboard and it was by far the pick of the bunch. Some high quality girls and not too pushy. We both found girls to our tastes and promptly barfined two of them. Back in the hotel mine was a star performer. Great body and very pretty face. Loved DATY and responded with a great BBBJ. The sex was also of high standard and not rushed at all. Only a short time but that suits me these days anyway.
The second day we followed the same routine and grabbed another two from one of the pool bars. Both again were in their 30's but really friendly and good fun to be with. Mine was very accommodating back in the room and gave a real GFE. As this was our last night we decided to go back to Billboard. I was happy to see my girl from the night before up dancing so I promptly grab her for a few drinks and grind on my lap. I was surprised when she asked me to barfine her for a long time and I put that down to being a repeat customer. However I had to get up very early the next morning so a long time would have been a waste. She was happy with a short time and really gave a GFE mixed with a little PSE.
So the trip to Bangkok did not disappoint and it was good to see some things had no changed from the last time I was there. Very different to my time in Pattaya (see my post on Pattaya thread) with my daytime action taking girls from pool bars as opposed to Soi 6. The girls were older but fun and good performers so I cannot complain.
Look forward to stopping there again soon.
Happy hunting.
[QUOTE=Axiata;2904241]Stopped into Bangkok after 5 days in Pattaya. We stayed near Nana Plaza and spent our days and nights in there. The pool bars along Nana are good fun and some of the daytime and evening ladies are worth investing time and money with. My wingman and I took a couple back during the day and got numbers of some as back up for the night. The girls were late 20's early 30's and did put a lot of effort into their work. They were good performers and provided DFK and loved DATY. All responded with very nice BBBJ.
The night action for us was around the agogos in Nana. We stopped into the Rainbow ones but found it hard to engage with the girls who only wanted drinks or rejected our offer to drink altogether. Figure as farangs we were not their type? No issue as we moved to a place willing to take our money. We stopped into Billboard and it was by far the pick of the bunch. Some high quality girls and not too pushy. We both found girls to our tastes and promptly barfined two of them. Back in the hotel mine was a star performer. Great body and very pretty face. Loved DATY and responded with a great BBBJ. The sex was also of high standard and not rushed at all. Only a short time but that suits me these days anyway.
The second day we followed the same routine and grabbed another two from one of the pool bars. Both again were in their 30's but really friendly and good fun to be with. Mine was very accommodating back in the room and gave a real GFE. As this was our last night we decided to go back to Billboard. I was happy to see my girl from the night before up dancing so I promptly grab her for a few drinks and grind on my lap. I was surprised when she asked me to barfine her for a long time and I put that down to being a repeat customer. However I had to get up very early the next morning so a long time would have been a waste. She was happy with a short time and really gave a GFE mixed with a little PSE.
So the trip to Bangkok did not disappoint and it was good to see some things had no changed from the last time I was there. Very different to my time in Pattaya (see my post on Pattaya thread) with my daytime action taking girls from pool bars as opposed to Soi 6. The girls were older but fun and good performers so I cannot complain.
Look forward to stopping there again soon.
Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]Could you name a couple of "pool bars" please.
NI.
[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2904072]Let me answer that for you. If you're simply looking to get a covered fuck then gogo's, beer bars, thermae and even street freelancers more convenient at least in Thailand. But if you're wanting BBFS, or more of a GFE experience without mechanical clock watching than the online game might be worth the investment. At least for me it's been. I've learned not to start too early (maybe 3 weeks before trip at most) and since it's a numbers game being smart about quickly weeding out the candidates. I've met girls online that spent hours more with me for nothing but the initial fee paid and were great GFE experiences. Or that came back day 2 for no fee other than dinner and a nice time. Many keep in touch through what's app for my next trip. But you're correct it takes time and effort and is not for everyone.[/QUOTE]I get BBFS, GFE, PSE from anyone I choose to fuck, without wasting my time on the net. I know there are tons of guys who live and / or travel here who feel the same.
The internet is an assistant, not a lifestyle. Get your nose out iof the screen and join real life.
Here is Tuesdays report:
While some of the shirt vendors are back, no dildos or weed are being displayed, nor Kamagara, although the word Cialis is whispered as you walk past. The ladyboy ratio was light. Schoolgirl was in her usual spot near Nana, later spied walking past Thermae arguing with a chunky unattractive girl. Nana burgers are still the best.
Lineup was poor to my eyes at Geisha, Rainbow4, Rainbow 5, Bunnies but YMMV. Billboard was excellent but my number wasn't there. If you go there, check out the bod on 904.
THermae was girl next door territory. I just hung out, watched the crowd, had some food (which is reasonably priced and quite good), grabbed one I wanted for BBFS.
Soi 11: guess where all the Africans are, which is fine with me as I don't go down there.
Your best weed deals right now are in the new place near Thermae (the seed company place) simply because of quality. 400 b a gram is fine. Durban Poison is at 240 B a gram at the Organic Shop near the Rolex store across from Siam Paragon.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2904248]I get BBFS, GFE, PSE from anyone I choose to fuck, without wasting my time on the net. I know there are tons of guys who live and / or travel here who feel the same.
The internet is an assistant, not a lifestyle. Get your nose out iof the screen and join real life.
Here is Tuesdays report:
While some of the shirt vendors are back, no dildos or weed are being displayed, nor Kamagara, although the word Cialis is whispered as you walk past. The ladyboy ratio was light. Schoolgirl was in her usual spot near Nana, later spied walking past Thermae arguing with a chunky unattractive girl. Nana burgers are still the best.
Lineup was poor to my eyes at Geisha, Rainbow4, Rainbow 5, Bunnies but YMMV. Billboard was excellent but my number wasn't there. If you go there, check out the bod on 904.
THermae was girl next door territory. I just hung out, watched the crowd, had some food (which is reasonably priced and quite good), grabbed one I wanted for BBFS.
Soi 11: guess where all the Africans are, which is fine with me as I don't go down there.
Your best weed deals right now are in the new place near Thermae (the seed company place) simply because of quality. 400 b a gram is fine. Durban Poison is at 240 B a gram at the Organic Shop near the Rolex store across from Siam Paragon.[/QUOTE]Great boots on the ground report. Always the best. Why no Butterflies? To me it's the perfect followup to Billboard. Ogle at billboard. Score at butterflies.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2904309]Great boots on the ground report. Always the best. Why no Butterflies? To me it's the perfect followup to Billboard. Ogle at billboard. Score at butterflies.[/QUOTE]I'm not a butterflies guy as the talent there is not to my taste.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2904242]Could you name a couple of "pool bars" please.
NI.[/QUOTE]Hey bro.
I meant the pool table bars opposite Hooters. Cannot recall their names. We got there around 2 pm and then again around 7 pm.
Good fun and worth spending some time to hunt. Girls vary but there were some that were worth it. I have taken girls from those bars before. They tend to stay a few hours with you but are also open to staying overnight if you want them to and are prepared to pay. Suits me for an afternoon play and the send them on their way.
Happy hunting.
I forgot to mention that the Boss at Thermae is having health problems again, guess his leg is messed up. If you know who I'm talking about and you see him, give him your best wishes.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2904402]I forgot to mention that the Boss at Thermae is having health problems again, guess his leg is messed up. If you know who I'm talking about and you see him, give him your best wishes.[/QUOTE]Hmm never really paid attn to the workers. Figure he's the guy behind the counter? Where the ladies pay their fees?
[QUOTE=ChinatownGuy;2717056]Yes, 600 was the going rate (before covid) A bit dirty and seedy, but, then again, so am I. There always seems to be at least one "prego" SW there when I roam around.[/QUOTE]Hai Chinatown Guy, what time does the Street Walker roam? Maybe need to show me which part of Yaowarat street. Plenty of pregnant girls?
[QUOTE=Lcale1982;2904416]Hmm never really paid attn to the workers. Figure he's the guy behind the counter? Where the ladies pay their fees?[/QUOTE]Yeah the old guy on the right with the brace on. He used to be the one greeting you at the door. I think the younger guy next to him, the day to day guy, is a relative.
For 30 years plus its been my go to place. Its sad to see that younger westerners have abandoned it to the Asian crowd.
Hey I'm interested in watching a girl getting humped by an older gentleman. The fatter the guy. The better. Willing to pay for ST. Anyone interested dm me. Always had this fetish of watching my GF or wife or mom getting humped by an older gentleman and maybe my upcoming trip to BKK next month would help me fulfill this fantasy.
Never been to BKK, but really looking forward to my first experience. I plan on running this body of mine ragged with the girls. Been doing quite a bit of reading and searching, but I have a couple things I've been wondering currently:
1. How do most girls feel about photos / recording before or during? In know all are different but are the generally ok with it and I just ask? It makes it hotter for me and I would like to be able to relive the experience after when I return home until I can get there again.
2. How easy is it or what locations can I find foreign girls? I'd like to have a few who are not Thai, like maybe an Indian or something. I read somewhere that Khao San Rd, the backpackers will sometimes join you in your room so they can have a shower.
Hopefully my post isn't against the guidelines. It seemed to be ok with a read through, but this is my first post afterall!
Never been to BKK, but really looking forward to my first experience. I plan on running this body of mine ragged with the girls. Been doing quite a bit of reading and searching, but I have a couple things I've been wondering currently:
1. How do most girls feel about photos / recording before or during? In know all are different but are the generally ok with it and I just ask? It makes it hotter for me and I would like to be able to relive the experience after when I return home until I can get there again.
2. How easy is it or what locations can I find foreign girls? I'd like to have a few who are not Thai, like maybe an Indian or something. I read somewhere that Khao San Rd, the backpackers will sometimes join you in your room so they can have a shower.
Hopefully my post isn't against the guidelines. It seemed to be ok with a read through, but this is my first post afterall!
[QUOTE=MisterPeanut;2904612]Never been to BKK, but really looking forward to my first experience. I plan on running this body of mine ragged with the girls. Been doing quite a bit of reading and searching, but I have a couple things I've been wondering currently:
1. How do most girls feel about photos / recording before or during? In know all are different but are the generally ok with it and I just ask? It makes it hotter for me and I would like to be able to relive the experience after when I return home until I can get there again.
2. How easy is it or what locations can I find foreign girls? I'd like to have a few who are not Thai, like maybe an Indian or something. I read somewhere that Khao San Rd, the backpackers will sometimes join you in your room so they can have a shower.
Hopefully my post isn't against the guidelines. It seemed to be ok with a read through, but tis is my first post afterall![/QUOTE]Don't Chuckle guys. I've heard back in the day day you could get Hot Thai girls for a Shiny Copper Object, a Shower 🚿 or a place to lay thier head for the night.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2904347]I'm not a butterflies guy as the talent there is not to my taste.[/QUOTE]Butterfly could never ever hold Rainbow 4 jock strap.
Only thing Butterfly has going for it is really really Big. No way they make their Rent.
[QUOTE=MisterPeanut;2904607]Never been to BKK, but really looking forward to my first experience. I plan on running this body of mine ragged with the girls. Been doing quite a bit of reading and searching, but I have a couple things I've been wondering currently:
1. How do most girls feel about photos / recording before or during? In know all are different but are the generally ok with it and I just ask? It makes it hotter for me and I would like to be able to relive the experience after when I return home until I can get there again.
2. How easy is it or what locations can I find foreign girls? I'd like to have a few who are not Thai, like maybe an Indian or something. I read somewhere that Khao San Rd, the backpackers will sometimes join you in your room so they can have a shower.[/QUOTE]1. Thats up and down. Some will do this if you pay a bit extra, others aren't interested. Money often talks. You can just ask.
2. Are you asking about like regular foreign girls? Or foreign sex workers? For regular girls they are all over. But yes there will be tons partying on Khao San. If you think you're just going to show up and slam some 22 year old backpacker girl, you're not dude.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2904402]I forgot to mention that the Boss at Thermae is having health problems again, guess his leg is messed up. If you know who I'm talking about and you see him, give him your best wishes.[/QUOTE]Sad to hear, he strikes me as the type of guy that will be carried out in a box before giving up work to retire gracefully! Even though I imagine it's been a profitable business over the years but he probably still has to work, I wouldn't say his retirement planning / saving has been top notch over the years, maybe I am wrong.
Hopefully the younger guy is his relative and he passes on the business in time and Thermae is with us for donkey years to come, nothing quite like Thermae!!
To that point, is there any other bar in Bangkok with the same "model" as Thermae I. E loads of freelancers and no bar fine? I certainly am not aware of any currently.
[QUOTE=PgReal;2904690]Sad to hear, he strikes me as the type of guy that will be carried out in a box before giving up work to retire gracefully! Even though I imagine it's been a profitable business over the years but he probably still has to work, I wouldn't say his retirement planning / saving has been top notch over the years, maybe I am wrong.
Hopefully the younger guy is his relative and he passes on the business in time and Thermae is with us for donkey years to come, nothing quite like Thermae!!
To that point, is there any other bar in Bangkok with the same "model" as Thermae I. E loads of freelancers and no bar fine? I certainly am not aware of any currently.[/QUOTE]I would think that there is a connection with the hotel. I'm sure they are all financially fine and I am sure that he works because that's what he does. Not every person of retiree age is a sloth like stoned useless loathesome degenerate like me.
[QUOTE=MisterPeanut;2904612]Never been to BKK, but really looking forward to my first experience. I plan on running this body of mine ragged with the girls. Been doing quite a bit of reading and searching, but I have a couple things I've been wondering currently:
1. How do most girls feel about photos / recording before or during? In know all are different but are the generally ok with it and I just ask? It makes it hotter for me and I would like to be able to relive the experience after when I return home until I can get there again.
2. How easy is it or what locations can I find foreign girls? I'd like to have a few who are not Thai, like maybe an Indian or something. I read somewhere that Khao San Rd, the backpackers will sometimes join you in your room so they can have a shower.
Hopefully my post isn't against the guidelines. It seemed to be ok with a read through, but this is my first post afterall![/QUOTE]#1. Agree with Grape that will be hit or miss and require money. Personally, I think you'll freak out half of them asking for it, but if it's important never hurts.
#2. I'd advise you to go to Europe after BKK if you're looking for eastern European types. There a few in BKK but expensive my understanding. I've never shopped for them in BKK. There are a few African imports around Soi Cowboy area that are freelancers. Find online as well. No disrespect, but to me going to BKK and looking for something other than the tons of hot Thai women is like going to an Italian restaurant looking for Chinese food.
Just wondering, but.
I've been to BKK, many times, before the COVID and not until recently late 2023. Reading through recent Thailand Threads seem the tipping culture is popping up. I understand that each, their own, can tip ever-which-way they please. I recall others pointing the tipping nuisance that was spreading pre-Covid. Maybe I got it wrong as I'm too lazy to go back 3+ years in multiple Threads. I'm about to visit BKK soon and checking if Indy / Massage would start asking for tips. TIA.
[QUOTE=GCNovice;2904801]Just wondering, but.
I've been to BKK, many times, before the COVID and not until recently late 2023. Reading through recent Thailand Threads seem the tipping culture is popping up. I understand that each, their own, can tip ever-which-way they please. I recall others pointing the tipping nuisance that was spreading pre-Covid. Maybe I got it wrong as I'm too lazy to go back 3+ years in multiple Threads. I'm about to visit BKK soon and checking if Indy / Massage would start asking for tips. TIA.[/QUOTE]I don't care what anyone else does, I tip where appropriate.
[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2904633]Don't Chuckle guys. I've heard back in the day day you could get Hot Thai girls for a Shiny Copper Object, a Shower 🚿 or a place to lay thier head for the night.[/QUOTE]No reason to be rude. I genuinely read it in another group, although I was suspect. I've literally never travelled so I have no idea how things are there. I was only asking the supposed ease of the experience. Obviously, there will be trolls everywhere.
[QUOTE=GrapeMan;2904643]1. Thats up and down. Some will do this if you pay a bit extra, others aren't interested. Money often talks. You can just ask.
2. Are you asking about like regular foreign girls? Or foreign sex workers? For regular girls they are all over. But yes there will be tons partying on Khao San. If you think you're just going to show up and slam some 22 year old backpacker girl, you're not dude.[/QUOTE]1. Figured that would be the case.
2. No, SW in particular, with the exception of the apparently BS quote I referenced from a group that Forty Drinks enjoyed having a laugh at my expense. (Nothing quite like shitting on the inexperienced.) As little effort and interaction as required. I have more important things to do with my time than trying to rizz some random traveler not even looking for sex.
[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2904728]#1. Agree with Grape that will be hit or miss and require money. Personally, I think you'll freak out half of them asking for it, but if it's important never hurts.
#2. I'd advise you to go to Europe after BKK if you're looking for eastern European types. There a few in BKK but expensive my understanding. I've never shopped for them in BKK. There are a few African imports around Soi Cowboy area that are freelancers. Find online as well. No disrespect, but to me going to BKK and looking for something other than the tons of hot Thai women is like going to an Italian restaurant looking for Chinese food.[/QUOTE]2. It's not so much having it instead of the Thais, but in addition to. Obviously, the amazing looking Thais will be first and my primary "meal" so to speak, but I wouldn't mind trying out some other cuisine while out of the country.
Hi guys,
I agree, when in BKK, it's better to see the girl in person. But I am too shy to go out and approach a girl. I feel I may end up take decision quickly.
I have got 2 options.
1. TF; easier. Many to choose. Only challenge I have is to know if they are really girls. In few scenarios I could tell that they are not women and all of them say that they are women.
This is stopping me to ahead with this.
2. Go out:
I prefer to bring a lady to the hotel and spend decent amount of time.
If I have to pick up a lady, it has to be only in the evening, isn't it? I heard about Nana and Thermae.
So, we always have to pay the barfine?
What's the decent amount to pay for full night?
Do we have girls 25 to 30 age range?
Again, how to avoid ladyboys?
Please suggest.
Tried a thermae girl for the 1st time today. Turned out to be a complete waste of money. First of all she's not that good looking than what I thought inside the cafe. If I had met her on the streets, wouldn't have agreed even for 1500. Maybe I got distracted towards her due to the high quotes by the better lookers (they all quoted upwards of 4-5 k baht). This useless chick and many others quoted 3000. I should have walked out but not sure what happened, my mind was hell bent on walking out with a chick. Funnily enough, I already had 2 very nice sessions in boss and butterfly massage with beautiful young beauties. Still ventured out late night for a 3rd session and ended up with this crap! A tight slap on my horny dick!!
Coming to the deed, she was a complete time watcher with mechanical service. No kiss allowed, only light boobs kiss, namesake BJ and started cribbing taking too long after 5 minutes. Wants extra 500 baht for another 5 minutes. Says she only gives 40 minutes for short time which starts the moment she leaves Thermae. I was like, "***** if I hadn't selected you, you would have probably gone without any customer today".
I decided I will rather jerk off than paying her extra and hearing her cribbing for more time. Asked her to go get a shower and leave which she happily obliged.
Thermae is not for me. Too many girls jam packed in a small place, with many not even looking interested in talking. The good looking ones quote so high that you lose interest.
Ask them directly if they are real lady or not. They usually tell the truth if you ask.
You don't need to pay barfine for Thermae girls but for bars and massage shops you need to pay them for their "loss of business" due to the girl being with you.
And, plenty of young girls are there. I have banged 10 chicks in my current trip so far and 7 are <25 (it's easy to apply dicaprio rule here heheh).
Best option as per me are the massage shops where you can find very pretty, young and friendly chicks, and you can select them from a lineup in person.
[QUOTE=Sushruth;2904977]Hi guys,
I agree, when in BKK, it's better to see the girl in person. But I am too shy to go out and approach a girl. I feel I may end up take decision quickly.
I have got 2 options.
1. TF; easier. Many to choose. Only challenge I have is to know if they are really girls. In few scenarios I could tell that they are not women and all of them say that they are women.
This is stopping me to ahead with this.
2. Go out:
I prefer to bring a lady to the hotel and spend decent amount of time.
If I have to pick up a lady, it has to be only in the evening, isn't it? I heard about Nana and Thermae.
So, we always have to pay the barfine?
What's the decent amount to pay for full night?
Do we have girls 25 to 30 age range?
Again, how to avoid ladyboys?
Please suggest.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sushruth;2904977]Hi guys,
I agree, when in BKK, it's better to see the girl in person. But I am too shy to go out and approach a girl. I feel I may end up take decision quickly.
I have got 2 options.
1. TF; easier. Many to choose. Only challenge I have is to know if they are really girls. In few scenarios I could tell that they are not women and all of them say that they are women.
This is stopping me to ahead with this.
2. Go out:
I prefer to bring a lady to the hotel and spend decent amount of time.
If I have to pick up a lady, it has to be only in the evening, isn't it? I heard about Nana and Thermae.
So, we always have to pay the barfine?
What's the decent amount to pay for full night?
Do we have girls 25 to 30 age range?
Again, how to avoid ladyboys?
Please suggest.[/QUOTE]If you feel unsure of your ability to spot a ladyboy, you should refrain from mongering until you learn. The best way to learn is to walk up and down Sukhumvit between Robinsons and Soi 11 in the study the various examples you see. Study their mannerisms, listen to their voices, gaze upon their feet.
[QUOTE=Sushruth;2904977]Hi guys,
I agree, when in BKK, it's better to see the girl in person. But I am too shy to go out and approach a girl. I feel I may end up take decision quickly.
I have got 2 options.
1. TF; easier. Many to choose. Only challenge I have is to know if they are really girls. In few scenarios I could tell that they are not women and all of them say that they are women.
This is stopping me to ahead with this.
2. Go out:
I prefer to bring a lady to the hotel and spend decent amount of time.
If I have to pick up a lady, it has to be only in the evening, isn't it? I heard about Nana and Thermae.
So, we always have to pay the barfine?
What's the decent amount to pay for full night?
Do we have girls 25 to 30 age range?
Again, how to avoid ladyboys?
Please suggest.[/QUOTE]This is just all off, you're making it way overcomplicated for what is a totally easy path. Just chill out. Its easy and simple.
Anyways. You want a girl, don't worry, just show up to any of the MPs recommended here, and you can do it in a minute. MPs should be the first spot if you can do out of home stuff. Ignore this TF stuff, that's not for you. Thats a whole different thing, its not for you. You can go to the MPs, escorts, Smooci, Thermae, or Gogos.
Smooci and escorts will show up pretty much anytime you want to your hotel. Those two are a bit more expensive options than others. MPs are open like noon to 10 pm, all you have to do is show up, if none of the girls are appealing to you, thats fine, just walk into the next MP. Thermae and gogos start at night.
At gogos there is a bar fine. 600-1000 baht. Then you pay whatever she charges. 2000-3000ST, maybe 4000-5000 LT. Thermae, you pay a small fee to go in (drink purchasE) and then just pay whatever the girl costs for the amount of time you want. Don't overthink it, if you want to bang one of the girls at thermae or a gogo, talk to them, set a price, and that's it. For gogos, if you like a specific girl you can ask the waitress / mamasan to have her come over to talk. At the gogo you may get asked to buy a lady drink. You're not required to, its like a tip for the girl if she's hanging out with you, but not required. You can always just get her a shot instead too. That is if you even wanna hang there, you can just grab a girl you like, get a price, and leave.
Don't worry about LBs, you're doing normal tourist fuck a thai girl stuff, you're not gonna be picking up on LBs at your spots. You'll see them hanging out infront of the LB gogos, but you won't be going into those so don't worry
[QUOTE=Sushruth;2904977]...
I prefer to bring a lady to the hotel and spend decent amount of time.
If I have to pick up a lady, it has to be only in the evening, isn't it? I heard about Nana and Thermae.
....
Again, how to avoid ladyboys?
Please suggest.[/QUOTE]If you want to spend more than ST, probably best not to go to Thermae. Most I've seen want short time so they can go back to Thermae to get next customer. But if you do go you can discuss with them ahead of time what you want before taking them with you. And test their english if you want to hang out and chat and not use translator all night. I was shy at first to but after a few times, my go to place now specially since i dont drink. I've visited a few from there for LT 7 k but not an all night f*fest, just once at night and again at morning. I feel like Nana might be a better bet for long time but I don't really partake there.
Lady boys. If they taller than 5 ft 4 in I just skip hah Of course they are some tall ladies but I like them small anyways.
[QUOTE=Ulalaulala123;2905031]Tried a thermae girl for the 1st time today. Turned out to be a complete waste of money. First of all she's not that good looking than what I thought inside the cafe. If I had met her on the streets, wouldn't have agreed even for 1500. Maybe I got distracted towards her due to the high quotes by the better lookers (they all quoted upwards of 4-5 k baht). This useless chick and many others quoted 3000. I should have walked out but not sure what happened, my mind was hell bent on walking out with a chick. Funnily enough, I already had 2 very nice sessions in boss and butterfly massage with beautiful young beauties. Still ventured out late night for a 3rd session and ended up with this crap! A tight slap on my horny dick!!
Coming to the deed, she was a complete time watcher with mechanical service. No kiss allowed, only light boobs kiss, namesake BJ and started cribbing taking too long after 5 minutes. Wants extra 500 baht for another 5 minutes. Says she only gives 40 minutes for short time which starts the moment she leaves Thermae. I was like, "***** if I hadn't selected you, you would have probably gone without any customer today".
I decided I will rather jerk off than paying her extra and hearing her cribbing for more time. Asked her to go get a shower and leave which she happily obliged.
Thermae is not for me. Too many girls jam packed in a small place, with many not even looking interested in talking. The good looking ones quote so high that you lose interest.[/QUOTE]Been there 3 X but never took a girl. Been refused by two different ones for being too big. There are better girls on the street and much cheaper.
[QUOTE=GCNovice;2904801]Just wondering, but.
I've been to BKK, many times, before the COVID and not until recently late 2023. Reading through recent Thailand Threads seem the tipping culture is popping up. I understand that each, their own, can tip ever-which-way they please. I recall others pointing the tipping nuisance that was spreading pre-Covid. Maybe I got it wrong as I'm too lazy to go back 3+ years in multiple Threads. I'm about to visit BKK soon and checking if Indy / Massage would start asking for tips. TIA.[/QUOTE]In MHO tippig mongering wise has always been around. The tourists seem to over tip. As for the rest of the stuff 0 to 10 % is plenty, but things are so cheap it doesn't amount to much.
[QUOTE=GrapeMan;2905051]This is just all off, you're making it way overcomplicated for what is a totally easy path. Just chill out. Its easy and simple.
Anyways. You want a girl, don't worry, just show up to any of the MPs recommended here, and you can do it in a minute. MPs should be the first spot if you can do out of home stuff. Ignore this TF stuff, that's not for you. Thats a whole different thing, its not for you. You can go to the MPs, escorts, Smooci, Thermae, or Gogos.
Smooci and escorts will show up pretty much anytime you want to your hotel. Those two are a bit more expensive options than others. MPs are open like noon to 10 pm, all you have to do is show up, if none of the girls are appealing to you, thats fine, just walk into the next MP. Thermae and gogos start at night.
At gogos there is a bar fine. 600-1000 baht. Then you pay whatever she charges. 2000-3000ST, maybe 4000-5000 LT. Thermae, you pay a small fee to go in (drink purchasE) and then just pay whatever the girl costs for the amount of time you want. Don't overthink it, if you want to bang one of the girls at thermae or a gogo, talk to them, set a price, and that's it. For gogos, if you like a specific girl you can ask the waitress / mamasan to have her come over to talk. At the gogo you may get asked to buy a lady drink. You're not required to, its like a tip for the girl if she's hanging out with you, but not required. You can always just get her a shot instead too. That is if you even wanna hang there, you can just grab a girl you like, get a price, and leave.
Don't worry about LBs, you're doing normal tourist fuck a thai girl stuff, you're not gonna be picking up on LBs at your spots. You'll see them hanging out infront of the LB gogos, but you won't be going into those so don't worry[/QUOTE]Good luck hanging with Bargirls without paying in some way.
[QUOTE=DCups;2905075]Been there 3 X but never took a girl. Been refused by two different ones for being too big. There are better girls on the street and much cheaper.[/QUOTE]How do you know they are better and cheaper on the street if you have never had a girl in Thermae?
36 year old male here, 5'11 155 lbs. Decently traveled and versed in the ways.
I thought I'd try out the esteemed "Nana Plaza" - the "ultimate" sex getaway in Bangkok.
Long story short. It was LAME! Super duper ultra lame!
Here's what you can expect in this bustling 3 story complex:
Room after room of bar girls standing next to poles with numbers on, like something out of the holocaust. No energy, no excitement, nothing. And it was exactly the same scene in every single room, and this being on a Saturday night!
To sit and stare at some of these partially clad girls, you pay a drink which is typically 3-4 USD. Kind of lame when you can just do the same for free. Somewhere.
Here's the real kicker: To take a girl back for an hour, I was quoted at. *laughs*. *4000 baht*!
Please save your computer screens and laptops and ensure you don't spit out your drink too hard. Hahahahhhh.
And that's it.
So. Here's my advice for the Nana area.
Go to the massage shops and see if you can find anyone decent. I did! I had a good time. It was (still) a bit on the pricey side though. 2000 baht and she really wanted 2500. None of this is even remotely worth it to me when I've plowed through Mexican p*ssy raging bull style at $10 a pop.
Long story short. Prices around this area are skyrocketing, not just for bing bong boom boom but everything else too. Possibly even in the past 3 months.
Maybe it's because I'm tired of Asia? But overall been running into some massive price inflation lately combined with a sudden lack of enthusiasm. It was the same story in Vietnam as well.
So! My recommendation is this.
If you're looking for a getaway, just book it to Pattaya. Or perhaps one of the other areas in Bangkok? I haven't checked out the others yet. Wouldn't be surprised if prices are more reasonable, still need to research. The girls are better looking, more energetic, and more fun in general. There is a much higher variety as well. The prices are much more reasonable. And if you can negotiate down to a reasonable price, I smashed with a 8. 5/10 girl in a massage shop for all of 300 baht just 3 months ago.
[QUOTE=Skadoosh;2905165]36 year old male here, 5'11 155 lbs. Decently traveled and versed in the ways.
I thought I'd try out the esteemed "Nana Plaza" - the "ultimate" sex getaway in Bangkok.
Long story short. It was LAME! Super duper ultra lame![/QUOTE]Nana today isn't at all what it used to be, even 5 years ago. There's been a ton of turnover there in the last 5-8 years both in gogos and girls and total environment and about 3/4 of the gogos big and small became pretty dull or went all in on the chinese / japanese clients instead of western ones. The asain crowd are fine with the girls just standing around in a bikini vs the western crowd that's expecting more of a strip club-type show and at least for the girls to be topless, some gogos do topless, but its the exception now, it used to be almost all of them, its weird and dumb they went away from this, and business definitely took a hit. Prices have also risen, but being SE Asia, prices simply make no sense to anyone, they just kinda make up a price and go with it. You are expected to negotiate take out prices though. Its not mean, its expected, and they hope they get the 1 client that doesn't negotiate and they throw out some high price and you're just like "ok".
Cowboy and Nana kinda rotate back and forth which one is better, usually if one is in a down phase the other is in a better spot.
That said, once you learn Nana a bit better and know what gogos to go into, what they offer (and don't), you can do totally fine there, but its much less easy for just a new random tourist showing up and popping into a random gogo to get that each gogo and such kinda does their own thing or gimmick now.
For the Pattaya comment. I think that place is total garbage. No reason to go. You can just do the MPs in bangkok.
[QUOTE=Skadoosh;2905165]36 year old male here, 5'11 155 lbs. Decently traveled and versed in the ways.
I thought I'd try out the esteemed "Nana Plaza" - the "ultimate" sex getaway in Bangkok.
Long story short. It was LAME! Super duper ultra lame!
Here's what you can expect in this bustling 3 story complex:
Room after room of bar girls standing next to poles with numbers on, like something out of the holocaust. No energy, no excitement, nothing. And it was exactly the same scene in every single room, and this being on a Saturday night!
To sit and stare at some of these partially clad girls, you pay a drink which is typically 3-4 USD. Kind of lame when you can just do the same for free. Somewhere.
Here's the real kicker: To take a girl back for an hour, I was quoted at. *laughs*. *4000 baht*!
Please save your computer screens and laptops and ensure you don't spit out your drink too hard. Hahahahhhh.
And that's it.
So. Here's my advice for the Nana area.
Go to the massage shops and see if you can find anyone decent. I did! I had a good time. It was (still) a bit on the pricey side though. 2000 baht and she really wanted 2500. None of this is even remotely worth it to me when I've plowed through Mexican p*ssy raging bull style at $10 a pop.
Long story short. Prices around this area are skyrocketing, not just for bing bong boom boom but everything else too. Possibly even in the past 3 months.
Maybe it's because I'm tired of Asia? But overall been running into some massive price inflation lately combined with a sudden lack of enthusiasm. It was the same story in Vietnam as well.
So! My recommendation is this.
If you're looking for a getaway, just book it to Pattaya. Or perhaps one of the other areas in Bangkok? I haven't checked out the others yet. Wouldn't be surprised if prices are more reasonable, still need to research. The girls are better looking, more energetic, and more fun in general. There is a much higher variety as well. The prices are much more reasonable. And if you can negotiate down to a reasonable price, I smashed with a 8. 5/10 girl in a massage shop for all of 300 baht just 3 months ago.[/QUOTE]Seems you have a problem with costs. I'll agree that Nana can be a little expensive for some folks, but for those who can afford it, it's a great time.
I have A little bit of curiosity and ask my fellow experienced Bangkok travelers following:
How many of you believe that this dude smashed an 8 and 1/2 massage girl for 300 b in Bangkok. I don't.
[QUOTE=Skadoosh;2905165]
Go to the massage shops and see if you can find anyone decent. I did! I had a good time. It was (still) a bit on the pricey side though. 2000 baht and she really wanted 2500. None of this is even remotely worth it to me when I've plowed through [B]Mexican p*ssy raging bull style at $10 a pop.[/B]
...[/QUOTE]I don't mean to hijack this thread. I've mongered in Thailand and Mx along with other countries. I often travel to Mx. Are your $10 pops via Twitter, FB, Seeking, or an agency? Feel free to PM.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2905095]How do you know they are better and cheaper on the street if you have never had a girl in Thermae?[/QUOTE]Cheaper, for sure.
[QUOTE=Ulalaulala123;2904218]Does ThaiFriendly work as effectively in Bangkok as in Pattaya? I am seeing many good looking profiles mentioning "looking for long term" or "not a pr*stitute". Didn't see such profiles much in Pattaya. Should I approach them?[/QUOTE]My experience is that most of the BKK TF girls are looking for a long term relationship. Maybe 20%are freelancers but they make that clear or are vague in the profiles. They are usually younger. It is easy enough to bang any of them but to avoid misleading, I make it clear what I am looking for. If they want immediate marriage, I decline.
[QUOTE=Skadoosh;2905165]36 year old male here, 5'11 155 lbs. Decently traveled and versed in the ways.
I thought I'd try out the esteemed "Nana Plaza" - the "ultimate" sex getaway in Bangkok.
Long story short. It was LAME! Super duper ultra lame!
Here's what you can expect in this bustling 3 story complex:
Room after room of bar girls standing next to poles with numbers on, like something out of the holocaust. No energy, no excitement, nothing. And it was exactly the same scene in every single room, and this being on a Saturday night!
To sit and stare at some of these partially clad girls, you pay a drink which is typically 3-4 USD. Kind of lame when you can just do the same for free. Somewhere.
Here's the real kicker: To take a girl back for an hour, I was quoted at. *laughs*. *4000 baht*!
Please save your computer screens and laptops and ensure you don't spit out your drink too hard. Hahahahhhh.
And that's it.
So. Here's my advice for the Nana area.
Go to the massage shops and see if you can find anyone decent. I did! I had a good time. It was (still) a bit on the pricey side though. 2000 baht and she really wanted 2500. None of this is even remotely worth it to me when I've plowed through Mexican p*ssy raging bull style at $10 a pop.
Long story short. Prices around this area are skyrocketing, not just for bing bong boom boom but everything else too. Possibly even in the past 3 months.
Maybe it's because I'm tired of Asia? But overall been running into some massive price inflation lately combined with a sudden lack of enthusiasm. It was the same story in Vietnam as well.
So! My recommendation is this.
If you're looking for a getaway, just book it to Pattaya. Or perhaps one of the other areas in Bangkok? I haven't checked out the others yet. Wouldn't be surprised if prices are more reasonable, still need to research. The girls are better looking, more energetic, and more fun in general. There is a much higher variety as well. The prices are much more reasonable. And if you can negotiate down to a reasonable price, I smashed with a 8. 5/10 girl in a massage shop for all of 300 baht just 3 months ago.[/QUOTE]This is not an inaccurate description of NANA Plaza.
In other words what this guy sees I see.
[QUOTE=Skadoosh;2905165]36 year old male here, 5'11 155 lbs. Decently traveled and versed in the ways.
I thought I'd try out the esteemed "Nana Plaza" - the "ultimate" sex getaway in Bangkok.
Long story short. It was LAME! Super duper ultra lame!
Here's what you can expect in this bustling 3 story complex:
Room after room of bar girls standing next to poles with numbers on, like something out of the holocaust. No energy, no excitement, nothing. And it was exactly the same scene in every single room, and this being on a Saturday night!
To sit and stare at some of these partially clad girls, you pay a drink which is typically 3-4 USD. Kind of lame when you can just do the same for free. Somewhere.
Here's the realkicker: To take a girl back for an hour, I was quoted at. *laughs*. *4000 baht*!
Please save your computer screens and laptops and ensure you don't spit out your drink too hard. Hahahahhhh.
And that's it.
So. Here's my advice for the Nana area.
Go to the massage shops and see if you can find anyone decent. I did! I had a good time. It was (still) a bit on the pricey side though. 2000 baht and she really wanted 2500. None of this is even remotely worth it to me when I've plowed through Mexican p*ssy raging bull style at $10 a pop.
Long story short. Prices around this area are skyrocketing, not just for bing bong boom boom but everything else too. Possibly even in the past 3 months.
Maybe it's because I'm tired of Asia? But overall been running into some massive price inflation lately combined with a sudden lack of enthusiasm. It was the same story in Vietnam as well.
So! My recommendation is this.
If you're looking for a getaway, just book it to Pattaya. Or perhaps one of the other areas in Bangkok? I haven't checked out the others yet. Wouldn't be surprised if prices are more reasonable, still need to research. The girls are better looking, more energetic, and more fun in general. There is a much higher variety as well. The prices are much more reasonable. And if you can negotiate down to a reasonable price, I smashed with a 8. 5/10 girl in a massage shop for all of 300 baht just 3 months ago.[/QUOTE]Nana & Soi Cow are now total rip off places. Leave them for the Asian idiots who think that paying 5000 (incl BF, girl, Drinks) is a good deal.
Plenty of other options around. SW 1500/2000. Good ones maybe 2500/3000. The SW scene has changed from what it once was, I believe more reliable.
NI.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2905325]Nana & Soi Cow are now total rip off places. Leave them for the Asian idiots who think that paying 5000 (incl BF, girl, Drinks) is a good deal.
Plenty of other options around. SW 1500/2000. Good ones maybe 2500/3000. The SW scene has changed from what it once was, I believe more reliable.
NI.[/QUOTE]Good deal. LOL. I can show you some Chicken shacks for a good deal. Personally I'd be rather be with the idiot millionaires.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2905095]How do you know they are better and cheaper on the street if you have never had a girl in Thermae?[/QUOTE]Come on Nyezhov, I don't agree with the better on the street comment, but you certainly know that most Farangs don't have as much success as you do in Thermae. Especially older Farangs.
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2905328]Come on Nyezhov, I don't agree with the better on the street comment, but you certainly know that most Farangs don't have as much success as you do in Thermae. Especially older Farangs.[/QUOTE]Mr. Nyezhov's position with regard to Thermae and elsewhere else is similar to mine;.
"I get BBFS, GFE, PSE from anyone I choose to fuck, without wasting my time on the net. "
The trick is to simply confine your "choose to fucks" to ladies who agree to fuck you the way you want. For example, in my case, if a lady in Thermae or anywhere else doesn't agree upfront to BBFS+CIP with me or my idea of GFE / PSE, no problem, I just don't choose to take her.
Now, if anyone here is asserting that they routinely and without exception get BBFS+CIP with the objectively hottest girls in Thermae or any other wide range selection of ladies on a first session, the most popular girls in the place due to their objective level of hotness, then that punter truly has got a secret weapon at his disposal to achieve that result.
And it might even be a loaded gun he sits on the bedside table without comment before the session begins for all we know. LOL.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2905326]Good deal. LOL. I can show you some Chicken shacks for a good deal. Personally I'd be rather be with the idiot millionaires.[/QUOTE]Anyway long story short, not a matter of price but a matter of value. I found a lot more value elsewhere.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2905326]Good deal. LOL. I can show you some Chicken shacks for a good deal. Personally I'd be rather be with the idiot millionaires.[/QUOTE]Hey its ok to feel comfortable with the idiot millionaires.
NI.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2905295]Seems you have a problem with costs. I'll agree that Nana can be a little expensive for some folks, but for those who can afford it, it's a great time.
I have A little bit of curiosity and ask my fellow experienced Bangkok travelers following:
How many of you believe that this dude smashed an 8 and 1/2 massage girl for 300 b in Bangkok. I don't.[/QUOTE]I can't get past the notion that anyone found an 8.5/10 girl working in any Massage Shop in Pattaya, much less one that was available for sex of any kind, even much less that she charged anything less than 20,000 baht for it. My God, hasn't she scanned the Pattaya market for her competition going for 1,000 - 1,500 baht?
[QUOTE=DCups;2905307]Cheaper, for sure.[/QUOTE]Equivalent looks: 2000 street, 2500 Thermae.
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2905328]Come on Nyezhov, I don't agree with the better on the street comment, but you certainly know that most Farangs don't have as much success as you do in Thermae. Especially older Farangs.[/QUOTE]I'm so old I cum dust. However, Its all about behavior and attitude, although my long termism at the place helps.
But here is an important point. Girls who don't really want to go with you arent going to be worth it. So if that hottie dressed like a schoolgirl turns her nose up at you because you are white, well she wouldn't be the best performer anyway. Plenty of places where they don't have a choice.
Here is another point: Old in decent shape beats young. Why? Because old dude like me isn't going to pound it into a mushy gelatinous schmear that was once a pussy unlike you, muscular 35 year old from Montana with beer dick. Many of the girls are AFRAID of you.
Another point: Fat aint where its at. Nor are last legger looks, dreads, dirty clothes etc.
I walk in 90% of the time in a collared shirt, long pants, closed to shoes, cologne. Many girls recognize me and the staff knows me. I buy drinks for random girls. The place is now loaded with Chinese, so Westerners are back up a notch. Its a fabulous place for EXPERIENCED older Westerners as is Nana.
While I agree with 40 Drinks and others that Nana has changed over the years (how many folks were there before the roof? For me, and other old dudes I have seen there, its the ultimate hunting ground, even though I may go to 5 places and barfine none. Thats because if I am going to pay Nana prices, I want the ONE. Thats becasue I am not drunk and have control. I can have fun as follows:
Sit downstairs, smoke weed, eat chicken wings and watch football while bantering with the girls walking past.
Watch girls soap their pussies in Geisha (is it) for the cost of a Soda.
Watch the Angelwitch show for a few.
Walk in and out of 10 Gogos checking out the talent.
The Iced Coffee in Billboard is fabulous.
If and when I find the ONE, well I just pay for it.
If not, I walk to Thermae.
Keep in mind that in a sea full of Asians, Indians tourists and looky loos ones appearance and mannerisms make one more attractive to girls. While there is always a reasoned debate about long term vs short term visitors, I've had no choice but to play the long term game for years. But, that's benefitted me to the point where I have been offered brand new girls, "she just start". I don't get hustled either. And when you have two Nana girls just gobbling each other while you chill and smoke, I guess you will understand why I like it. YMMV, because the entire scene outside the take all comers places requires a bit more insouiance. Nana isn't an FKK or Adelitas in Tijuana or a Termae in Brazil, it is its own scene and needs to be adapted to. Its not for Cheap Charlies either.
I don't do MPs, fishbowls etc anymore simply because I can only get to BKK once a month and why spill my precious life force with mediocrity in my eyes, especially with schlepping from place to plac e in the heat. If you are just a serial spurter, as many of you seem to be, by all means go for it. There is relief everywhere, albeit some very unattractive. But hey, we got Chinatown fans here LOL.
On the other hand, if you had a bad experience in Nana or Thermae, chances are its because of you. Me, I have hundreds and hundreds of choices. I've seen 100 plus girls in Thermae alone.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2905383]Hey its ok to feel comfortable with the idiot millionaires.
NI.[/QUOTE]Far better than idiot poor people. You forget that in most cases, being a millionaire requires a bit more intelligence than your average desperate monger.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2905325]Nana & Soi Cow are now total rip off places. Leave them for the Asian idiots who think that paying 5000 (incl BF, girl, Drinks) is a good deal.
Plenty of other options around. SW 1500/2000. Good ones maybe 2500/3000. The SW scene has changed from what it once was, I believe more reliable.
NI.[/QUOTE]I'm farang, too big, and old as dirt, I don't have the same sex appeal as younger, more fit, and better looking punters. The girls do not gravitate to me. Sometimes I have a great time with the 1200-2500 street freelancers, but what I normally crave are the 1 in 10 Nana plaza go go girls. I don't mind paying 4500-6000 baht to get what I want (drinks, waitress tip, mama tip, tuk tuk, hotel reception tip, and girl money).
I have only 1 Nana mamasan who arranges many of my dates (I used to have 2). She knows me, I tip her, and she finds what I want. Mamasan likely tells the girls that I'm a good customer because they consistently give me better service than I got before I became mama's regular customer. If I know which girl I want, I might arrange directly with mama before entry into bar without ordering any drinks, exactly zero girls have complained about missed alcohol. Some dancing girls notice when I leave with a bar fine, the next night those girls seem strangely attracted to me. Being a return customer has it's advantages.
Money: the world's greatest aphrodisiac. I've got nothing else to offer.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2905401]I'm farang, too big, and old as dirt, I don't have the same sex appeal as younger, more fit, and better looking punters. The girls do not gravitate to me. Sometimes I have a great time with the 1200-2500 street freelancers, but what I normally crave are the 1 in 10 Nana plaza go go girls. I don't mind paying 4500-6000 baht to get what I want (drinks, waitress tip, mama tip, tuk tuk, hotel reception tip, and girl money).
I have only 1 Nana mamasan who arranges many of my dates (I used to have 2). She knows me, I tip her, and she finds what I want. Mamasan likely tells the girls that I'm a good customer because they consistently give me better service than I got before I became mama's regular customer. If I know which girl I want, I might arrange directly with mama before entry into bar without ordering any drinks, exactly zero girls have complained about missed alcohol. Some dancing girls notice when I leave with a bar fine, the next night those girls seem strangely attracted to me. Being a return customer has it's advantages.
Money: the world's greatest aphrodisiac. I've got nothing else to offer.[/QUOTE]Five star analysis.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2905295]Seems you have a problem with costs. I'll agree that Nana can be a little expensive for some folks, but for those who can afford it, it's a great time.
I have A little bit of curiosity and ask my fellow experienced Bangkok travelers following:
How many of you believe that this dude smashed an 8 and 1/2 massage girl for 300 b in Bangkok. I don't.[/QUOTE]The last sentence of their posts are always.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2905401]Money: the world's greatest aphrodisiac. I've got nothing else to offer.[/QUOTE]Dude, I just wanted to give props to you. I like a guy who is under no illusions and is comfortable with reality.
Much better than those "she didn't want money but I put 5 k in her purse anyway" or "I banged bargirl XYZ and now she's madly in love with me" stories.
If you are spending your money in a way that gives you a good time, 👍 to you.
Enjoy. G.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2905414]Dude, I just wanted to give props to you. I like a guy who is under no illusions and is comfortable with reality.
Much better than those "she didn't want money but I put 5 k in her purse anyway" or "I banged bargirl XYZ and now she's madly in love with me" stories.
If you are spending your money in a way that gives you a good time, 👍 to you.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]There must be more to this than meets the EYE.
I get turned down all the time. It's like they think my last name is kumamthanchakiranandi. And my 1st name Raj and I work Dell Call Center.
Sorry guys this is a bit late. Too much work.
Due to CNY a bad time to visit but at least the weather was ok in the beginning. So it was really busy time with way too many regular tourists and weekend millionaires.
Street walker.
Quality is pretty much the same, numbers ok, prices from 1500 to 3000, never got quoted the low end though. Highest concentration around Thermae and soi 4, lots of black girls there, surprisingly good looks.
Thermae.
So full I never made it inside. 99% Asian.
Nana.
It's a tourist thing now, never seen that many non-working females going there with their husbands. Lots of girls but inside the clubs not that much action. BF is 1000, ST starts at 3000 to 4000. Not really value for money in my opinion.
BJ bars.
The old ones have terrible looking SP so I passed. Enjoyed Madame Claude, very well trained and quite pleasant but the prices are rather high, starting at 1300 for 20 minutes. The FS offers are not worth it in my experience. Nice rooms though but as I was not there to admire the interior decor and was greeted my first time by a huge dead cockroach, well, no points for that. Mama was very responsive via Line, using it for reservation is recommended.
Nuru.
Started with BKVice but again, great decoration, high prices (3000 for I think 60 minutes) but the girl had no clue about Nuru. FS was ok but pricy. The Mama from Doki was so unfriendly on line and my fav was on extended holiday so I passed.
Oilies.
That is how I call the low end MS shops even they now also offer Nuru but I never tried that. Prices stable at 2300 for 2 hours, girls quality was rather good. My favourite is SnowWhite / Cherry. One of the PSE superstars there has her own shop now in Soi 22, in the secon small side road behind the Marriot, name is Siky. If she teaches the gals her skills will be a superb place.
Short version, pm for any details, happy to elaborate if wished. Even though prices are up, still my go to place.
FA.
P.S.: taxi from airport to Asoke was 220 fare plus 25 tolls around 1 am. Using bolt on the way back was a disaster, driver could not find the hotel, which is directly at soi 23, charge was 300, the app had quoted 240 altogether.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2905408]Five star analysis.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Goferring;2905414]Dude, I just wanted to give props to you. I like a guy who is under no illusions and is comfortable with reality.
Much better than those "she didn't want money but I put 5 k in her purse anyway" or "I banged bargirl XYZ and now she's madly in love with me" stories.
If you are spending your money in a way that gives you a good time, 👍 to you.
Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the nice words, but I must admit that I only spend that magnitude of money in Bangkok or Patong. Since COVID I've been spending about 12 weeks per year in Thailand and most of my time is beach resort areas (not Pattaya) where the hot girls are few and far between. Prices are much lower and I'll typically pay 1500 ST for one of the doable girls or 2000 - 2500 for one of the rare hot girls. The most I’ve spent in a beach resort area has been 3000 ST.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2905401]Some dancing girls notice when I leave with a bar fine, the next night those girls seem strangely attracted to me. Being a return customer has it's advantages.[/QUOTE]Agree. Girls see everything you do and will remember it on your future visits. What else do they have to do when half he time you're the only guy in the bar. They know guys who don't buy drinks, buy drinks, buy LOTS of drinks, don't barfine, and barfine.
It absolutely pays to be a regular at a gogo bar. When you can walk in and not need to even order a drink or lady drink and there's 5+ girls vying for your attention you know you've been to that club too many times in the past month or two.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2905516]Agree. Girls see everything you do and will remember it on your future visits. What else do they have to do when half he time you're the only guy in the bar. They know guys who don't buy drinks, buy drinks, buy LOTS of drinks, don't barfine, and barfine.
It absolutely pays to be a regular at a gogo bar. When you can walk in and not need to even order a drink or lady drink and there's 5+ girls vying for your attention you know you've been to that club too many times in the past month or two.[/QUOTE]This reminds me of one more thing that mamasan does, when multiple girls fight for the bulge in my pants, mamasan will quickly resolve the conflicts in my favor. Of course, the applicable bulge is my wallet.
[QUOTE=Skadoosh;2905362]Anyway long story short, not a matter of price but a matter of value. I found a lot more value elsewhere.[/QUOTE]Value? It depends on how you define value. Some people define it as pure cost, some folks add other factors, usually because they can afford what they want. This isn't a place SOLELY for folks who live for the question "Where can I find a 10 for 1000 baht?
[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;2905481]S
P.S.: taxi from airport to Asoke was 220 fare plus 25 tolls around 1 am. Using bolt on the way back was a disaster, driver could not find the hotel, which is directly at soi 23, charge was 300, the app had quoted 240 altogether.[/QUOTE]If you would have RTFF, you would know, as I have often said:
Don't USE BOLT IN BKK.
Use Grab.
Thank you.
[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;2905481]P.S.: taxi from airport to Asoke was 220 fare plus 25 tolls around 1 am. Using bolt on the way back was a disaster, driver could not find the hotel, which is directly at soi 23, charge was 300, the app had quoted 240 altogether.[/QUOTE]That sucks, my bolt to airport found me but took like 15-20 mins but I was going early anyways to check out the lounges. I'll just remember to chill in my room until they get there LOL. Think was like 300 but a lot cheaper than grab that was like 500+. But yeah if you're in a hurry Grab seems to have more drivers.
[QUOTE=Lcale1982;2905648]That sucks, my bolt to airport found me but took like 15-20 mins but I was going early anyways to check out the lounges. I'll just remember to chill in my room until they get there LOL. Think was like 300 but a lot cheaper than grab that was like 500+. But yeah if you're in a hurry Grab seems to have more drivers.[/QUOTE]I don't wait for cars in order to save six bucks.
[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;2905481]Sorry guys this is a bit late. Too much work.
Due to CNY a bad time to visit but at least the weather was ok in the beginning. So it was really busy time with way too many regular tourists and weekend millionaires.
Street walker.
Quality is pretty much the same, numbers ok, prices from 1500 to 3000, never got quoted the low end though. Highest concentration around Thermae and soi 4, lots of black girls there, surprisingly good looks.
Thermae.
So full I never made it inside. 99% Asian.
Nana.
It's a tourist thing now, never seen that many non-working females going there with their husbands. Lots of girls but inside the clubs not that much action. BF is 1000, ST starts at 3000 to 4000. Not really value for money in my opinion.
BJ bars.
The old ones have terrible looking SP so I passed. Enjoyed Madame Claude, very well trained and quite pleasant but the prices are rather high, starting at 1300 for 20 minutes. The FS offers are not worth it in my experience. Nice rooms though but as I was not there to admire the interior decor and was greeted my first time by a huge dead cockroach, well, no points for that. Mama was very responsive via Line, using it for reservation is recommended.
Nuru.
Started with BKVice but again, great decoration, high prices (3000 for I think 60 minutes) but the girl had no clue about Nuru. FS was ok but pricy. The Mama from Doki was so unfriendly on line and my fav was on extended holiday so I passed.
Oilies.
That is how I call the low end MS shops even they now also offer Nuru but I never tried that. Prices stable at 2300 for 2 hours, girls quality was rather good. My favourite is SnowWhite / Cherry. One of the PSE superstars there has her own shop now in Soi 22, in the secon small side road behind the Marriot, name is Siky. If she teaches the gals her skills will be a superb place.
Short version, pm for any details, happy to elaborate if wished. Even though prices are up, still my go to place.
FA.
P.S.: taxi from airport to Asoke was 220 fare plus 25 tolls around 1 am. Using bolt on the way back was a disaster, driver could not find the hotel, which is directly at soi 23, charge was 300, the app had quoted 240 altogether.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up re black girls hang outs. I've had a yen for black girls recently. I hooked up with a couple for meet ups when I arrive on TF but they dropped off radar and deleted so this source is good to know. Wondering if rates are similar to those of Thai girls.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2905617]If you would have RTFF, you would know, as I have often said:
Don't USE BOLT IN BKK.
Use Grab.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]I have been using Bolt during the whole vacation in Bangkok without any issues. This was the first time with problems, seemingly as they are just using taxis as third party providers. I especially loved the motorcycle service. No need getting agitated. Different people, different experiences.
[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;2905695]Thanks for the heads up re black girls hang outs. I've had a yen for black girls recently. I hooked up with a couple for meet ups when I arrive on TF but they dropped off radar and deleted so this source is good to know. Wondering if rates are similar to those of Thai girls.[/QUOTE]I was in BKK in December and most of the black girls were loitering outside the Novotel on Soi 4. Didn't engage with any of them as appearance was average.
Met up with one black girl from TF. Exceptional body, average face, average performance.
1st report on NanaPlaza.
Please reread my last report. Probably no different today than it was last December.
5 pm Super Airport. About as empty as it's ever been.
The Chinese are coming. Maybe not. Air train has AI lady narrating in Chinese.
[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;2905700]I have been using Bolt during the whole vacation in Bangkok without any issues. This was the first time with problems, seemingly as they are just using taxis as third party providers. I especially loved the motorcycle service. No need getting agitated. Different people, different experiences.[/QUOTE]Agitated? Dude I LIVE in Siem Reap with a free Angkor pass and I spend 3 hours a day in a crystal clear pool with poolside service if I want, smoking primo fire, and everytime I get the itch to play, I'm as close as a 6 hour trip to Bangkok. Agitation is not a word in my vocabulary.
Helpful advice without ego needs is in my vocabulary. I realize that some guys insist on certain things because they don't want to admit they fucked up or should have done it some other way but my motivation is to help.
So here is help for tourists on a normal budget: If you use a regular street taxi, you will pay less than equivalent Grab or Bolt. If you ask for a Bolt car, you will pay less than a Grab, IF and WHEN it shows up. If you order a Grab car, it will show up and on a long trip, you will pay 10% more than Bolt. But it will show up. And if you want to go fancy, you can even get SUVs and Benzes. You can get bikes too. Please check your health insurance to ensure bikes are covered.
Budget travelers: Taxis and Grab bikes and Motocys are cheap. You will stand there waiting for Bolt cars as those of us in Grab zip by. But you will save $1. Then you can report here that you saved a dollar to the kudos of the budget crowd. Riding a Bolt bike through back Sois in 100 degree heat and pollution to bang a photoshopped chick in a cheap hotel to save $20 gets you kudos in that crowd.
Anyway, to the non budgeters, I say, nay, I shout (with appropriate finger gestures):
Do you want to stand in the heat somewhere while waiting for a car because some budget traveler told you you can save. A DOLLAR? Do you want to adjust YOUR plans to accommodate the fact that your car might not show up or is late? Hows that bladder feeling at 4 am with all that cheap beer gurgling while you wait for the car? Can't shell out an extra dollar, piss your pants instead?
YOU ARE ON THE VACATION OF A LIFETIME: want to wait for cars that may or may not show?
Airport runs: IMHO, the only way to go right now is hail a taxi on the meter.
If Bolt is better than Grab, other than price, I hope some resident will let me know.
[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;2905695]Thanks for the heads up re black girls hang outs. I've had a yen for black girls recently. I hooked up with a couple for meet ups when I arrive on TF but they dropped off radar and deleted so this source is good to know. Wondering if rates are similar to those of Thai girls.[/QUOTE]African girls usually walk in pairs. The ones in Soi Nana are the skankier ones, although there is rotation that will bring a few "decent" ones past you. They walk fast and generally don't loiter on Suk, although they do on Soi 11 and Nana. They are usually trafficked in some fashion, their pimps used to be on Suk but got chased away to Soi 11. Most of them have had kids and show it, haven't seen more than one or two hardbodies. They have litlle sense of style and are frequently a bit dirty looking. Many are in spandex and in order to not be offensive, on an occasion recently I had the chance to banter with one (who had a doable mouth) and all I can say is that the heat and humidity ripened her up a bit. I would be aghast if I had pulled down the tights in a non ventilated room.
They ask 3000, they will suck you off for 1000 plus the cost of a room. I wouldn't bring one back to my hotel. I think you can smash one for 1500. I only look at them for potential blowjobs, my buddy just face fucked one and said it was marvelous. Got to make sure they don't smell first, Ill keep my eyes open and report.
Since the BJ bars are dead, maybe its time for African head. Nasty as they are, they are a level up from your average BJ girl.
These arent hot black American girls from clubs, they are unattractive, ill dressed, misfit wigged, dirty, smelly trafficked peasants. YMMV, you get what you pay for.
Thank you Lcale1982, GrapeMan, Nyezhov and Ulalaulala123 for your valuable inputs. I will keep these in mind during my visit to BKK.
[QUOTE=Sushruth;2904977]Hi guys,
I agree, when in BKK, it's better to see the girl in person. But I am too shy to go out and approach a girl. I feel I may end up take decision quickly.
I have got 2 options.
1. TF; easier. Many to choose. Only challenge I have is to know if they are really girls. In few scenarios I could tell that they are not women and all of them say that they are women.
This is stopping me to ahead with this.
2. Go out:
I prefer to bring a lady to the hotel and spend decent amount of time.
If I have to pick up a lady, it has to be only in the evening, isn't it? I heard about Nana and Thermae.
So, we always have to pay the barfine?
What's the decent amount to pay for full night?
Do we have girls 25 to 30 age range?
Again, how to avoid ladyboys?
Please suggest.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2905707]I was in BKK in December and most of the black girls were loitering outside the Novotel on Soi 4. Didn't engage with any of them as appearance was average.
Met up with one black girl from TF. Exceptional body, average face, average performance.[/QUOTE]Yes, I watched one of those walking the sois videos on Youtube and saw several black girls there. I've had a thing to hook up with a girl with a big afro and there one was!
Very slim she appeared though didn't manage to see her face. She could even be the one I found on TF and then disappeared. There don't seem to be many with such a 'fro!
[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;2905695]Thanks for the heads up re black girls hang outs. I've had a yen for black girls recently. I hooked up with a couple for meet ups when I arrive on TF but they dropped off radar and deleted so this source is good to know. Wondering if rates are similar to those of Thai girls.[/QUOTE]Several black girls are hanging out nightly around Penny Black on Soi Cowboy.
April 2024 - During my visit to BKK, I've tested the following:
THERMAE:
I went there 3 times, for the fun only.
There are dozens of posts on the subject, no need to add more. Girls are from 3 to 6 in my dickmeter, maybe one or two 7 but not more. All the smiles turned towards the Koreans, the Japanese. I have only been attracted by a lovely 6 but she has refused (Nota, I'm in the 50's, not fat, no grey hairs, I can still fuck without paying. But I am not Japanese or Korean.
If you go alone, spot another solo farang; the exchanges are always nice. Met an Englishman passing through the first night, before being joined by a German who lives in BKK. After two drinks there watching the surrounding circus (position yourself in the center of the large roll and watch, it is entertaining), we accompanied the German to Soi Cowboy's Crazy Horse, had a beer, and ended the evening without consuming.
Verdict if you're alone:
Thermae: worth it.
Crazy horse: uninteresting unless with friends.
KHAO SAN ROAD.
WTF. No comment. Giant noisy weedy mess. Even Grab send you a message before your pick up to go back hotel "dammage to the car can be subject to charge. Be polite with the driver". Nowhere else in BKK I've received such txt.
KAPOO CLUB:
So for those even more clueless than me, a Kapoo is a bit like a university street food stall. But in such case the food has a pussy. A brothel for Thais (which means Google Translate is the only friend of the punter lost in the suburbs). Indeed it's cheap, it's fresh, it's out of the way but it's not very good.
Kapoo is not easy to find, neither for contact, other dedicated forums or Tg channels provide directories with contacts via Line, nor for getting there (several kilometers from the center).
Once contact is established, they send you the lineup of the day with prices, measurements, etc.
Of course, Photoshop is brothel best friend but being a novice doesn't mean being an idiot, we're not surprised that a model costs 1700 baht per hour. We understand each other.
In short, among the 3 clubs with established contacts, a price range of 1700 to 3400 baht per hour, I chose to try the extreme. The cheapest.
Arriving on the spot, greeted in what resembles an office reception. Counter, receptionist, sofa. Not a word of English. Not one, nothing.
The guy call a girl who thinks she speaks a little which allows me to see that Photoshop is super strong. She went from rank 5 with the photo to 3 in real life. Nevermind, I continue and choose the two level 6 available hoping for a 4 .
Price announced: 1700 for B2 be and 2850 for full service.
After a while, they push me a little to choose. Still looking on their phone. One of the 3 or 4 available.
I discover the girl. Fresh.
Arrived in the room, I hesitate to ask her not to turn on the air conditioning to push the vice of the Macao or Taiwan revival of the last century.
Shower time. She washes me then asks me to go to bed. There, she also washes herself and, although she has already washed from the previous client. Which I will later find out. She saves time. It takes more time to wash a girl who is 1 m60 and 40 kg than a farang of 90 kg.
She joins me, I'll spare you the details but the same expected codes: Massage, then tongue tours around my nipples with moans that make it clear how good my breasts can be for girls, she loves it and moans as if she comes (the moment is ridiculous). Covered blowjob then she grabs her phone to type: Sex 1500 baht. I just negotiate it down to 1000 just so that at least the total doesn't cost me more than if I had chosen the set menu at the entrance. The extra is, for the room and the girl, disproportionate, but I don't feel like bargaining and I'm rather glad the money goes directly to her.
End of operations, shower again and goodbye.
Verdict:
- Is it worth doing? Yes, for those who like to step out of their comfort zone, luxury.
- Is it worth redoing? For me, no. The efforts don't match the sensations. It's a quick, tasteless affair, therefore uninteresting.
Ah last: 45 minutes, I did not request to go up to the hour.
MIXX - 2 visits.
Friday evening - 250 baths entrance fee including a drink. Arrived at 1 am, it's the best time. Interacted with a Frenchman and an American who are regulars.
100% of the girls are pros (even the few Westerners present were pros with a fat Russian). It is a Dubai atmosphere without the Russian girls though. So if you like girls a bit vulgar then Mixx is for you. Little refinement. No attraction that night so did nothing.
Saturday night - 350 baht, . 100 more vs yesterday "because it's Saturday".
I was immediately drawn to a non-eastern girl, whi comes from. The far East. Of Russia: Siberia. As nothing's better than a Russian girl for me, there's no doubt she'll be my girl. To prevent any risk of a breakup, I decide not to negotiate and immediately agree 7 k baht for 1 hour. (For those who want to comment on the stratospheric price for Bangkok, you can, but I don't care. 180/200 $ is 30%/50% cheaper than in Europe for the same Level 7/8, and it's okay for me.) My choice was confirmed when she ordered her drink: a beer. She did not take advantage of my pre-agreement. Fair.
The girl is a real occasional who only does this during vacations. True or not, it doesn't matter. She was sweet, hot, had a perfect body, and a lovely face. With only one weak point: Not blonde. Nobody's. Especially not the Russians. Perfect.
THAI FRIENDLY.
I honestly do not understand all complains I have read from guys who are not satisfied. The rules of the games are simple:
1- Pay for a premium access.
2- don't bother making plan in advance (if you look for ST). The girls of today will not be there in a week or two.
3- Filter: Nearby X kms + Women (or Tgirl if that's your choice) + Online.
4- Go and send several "Hi", nothing more. To harvest, one must sow broadcast.
5- Turn off the app (notification ON), and when the fish is here, go back.
6- Ask "freelance?" and if the answer is positive, ask immediately her Line and keep on chatting via Line.
7- do what you want.
Usually, girls propositions are from 2 to 5 K baths for a ST 2 hours. But taking into consideration the contract is "2 hours or 1 shoot", the real time depends on you.
Anyway, I had 2 meetings in my room, ok and one amazing ewperience: A threesome with a 26 why (Level 9) girl + her husband 50 why old. It was their first experience so not a PSE meeting but a surprising one for. 0 baths.
So then, do no throw away TF as option IMHO, just be prepared to spend time and pay attention, my tips: if the online pic looks to nice to be true maybe indeed it is not True + if only 1 pic, swipe. They can have 1 or 2 pics really attractive and when you see others, it is less the case.
That is the end for me and sorry if it was too long.
I do not know what I missed as it remains for me 2 nights here? Maybe a visit to soapy massage or Gent Club. Or maybe if I can ask for an advise? I am looking for a luxury place (like a Gclub or Soapy parlour) where I can find model girl for a GOOD and real oil massage before boumboum. AMOF, the famous soapy places are much more concentrated on the sensual soapy and sex, more than real massage. Not my taste.
Take care and enjoy.
[QUOTE=Jarjarmissa;2906355]April 2024
MIXX - 2 visits.
Friday evening - 250 baths entrance fee including a drink. Arrived at 1 am, it's the best time. Interacted with a Frenchman and an American who are regulars.
100% of the girls are pros (even the few Westerners present were pros with a fat Russian). It is a Dubai atmosphere without the Russian girls though. So if you like girls a bit vulgar then Mixx is for you. Little refinement. No attraction that night so did nothing.
Saturday night - 350 baht, . 100 more vs yesterday "because it's Saturday".
I was immediately drawn to a non-eastern girl, whi comes from. The far East. Of Russia: Siberia. As nothing's better than a Russian girl for me, there's no doubt she'll be my girl. To prevent any risk of a breakup, I decide not to negotiate and immediately agree 7 k baht for 1 hour. (For those who want to comment on the stratospheric price for Bangkok, you can, but I don't care. 180/200 $ is 30%/50% cheaper than in Europe for the same Level 7/8, and it's okay for me.) My choice was confirmed when she ordered her drink: a beer. She did not take advantage of my pre-agreement. Fair.
The girl is a real occasional who only does this during vacations. True or not, it doesn't matter. She was sweet, hot, had a perfect body, and a lovely face. With only one weak point: Not blonde. Nobody's. Especially not the Russians. Perfect.
.[/QUOTE]Finally. Thank you. I'm on my way as soon as Songkhran finishes.
LA BELLE.
Friday evening 10 pm.
Around 25/30 girls.
Spent 30 min for a beer waiting for the right one (if she arrives).
I choose D47 - Faiii (first name) - 1 m70 (up to you EN guy to make the conversion), tall for Thai girl (but real girl).
Lovely face and smile, Black dress, fake but nice chest both to look at and to touch.
5500 baths for 90 min.
It is the mamasan who decide the rank of girl (from 3 to 10 K) and she and I clearly do not have the same taste. My girl was a hot 8 in my dickymeter while she is ranked 5/8 in their price list (Letter the in the attached price list). I can tell you that some L tonite (7500 b) were more 4 or 5 for dick attraction.
Anyway, tonite only girls from P to L.
Nothing spcial to notice except that as it was my first time I have been astonished by the room design and qualit- nice place -, the level of English of my girl. Who is coming from Isan -.
- Jacuzzi with her.
- BJ in the bath.
- Fuck session (I like the glass to enjoy the show) on the bed.
- Excellent, really excellent game with her. I did not perceive that her orgasm was fake. I simple have doubt because at 11 pm it is the end of the day, she has most probably received 5 or 6 other dicks in her pussy today. Anyway just to tell that you do not feel like in some places where the girl has the best orgasm of her life while she licks your balls.
- massage, not the best ever but relaxing after sex.
- cleaning session.
- Tips 500.
- way back to the ground floor, with her holding my hand.
Just to say that it deserved the 5500. The ladies care of you, really, from the 1st minute up to the end.
Enjoy and take care.
I ran across a video on YouTube that I found interesting. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U72fbziiFTE[/URL] I'm curious to know if the prices quoted are accurate or in the ballpark? They seem to be very inflated. I say that, confessing that I haven't indulged in commercial "services" in BKK for about 4 years. (I've been spending my $ in Cambodia and have gik-type (fuck buddy) relationships with a couple of former Soi Cowboy damsels.).
Thanks for any comments as the accuracy of what is presented in the video bases on actual recent experiences.
Sam.
[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2906611]I ran across a video on YouTube that I found interesting. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U72fbziiFTE[/URL] I'm curious to know if the prices quoted are accurate or in the ballpark?[/QUOTE]Generally, the prices quoted are in line with my experiences. Some girls are a little more, some girls are a little less.
Have followed the discussion here a few months. Have mainly experience with MP and SW and tend to be more budget minded. This is also an aspect that some people have, so if you are the type who likes class, luxury, and lashes out on threesomes, buying mamasans and expensive girls, no need to be rude; just go to next post.
I am however not sure I agree that the prices are incredibly inflated; it is not much different from a year or two ago. Maybe in the GoGos and in Nana Plaza, but in general its still more or less price level. I have been around for some time, and definitely before Nana Plaza roof.
The Massage Parlour Sky was introduced here a while back, so I decided to try it. It is said to have the same owner as Cherry, which I have visited several times. Went to Sky to check it out. It is definitely not the new Cherry, and selection was very modest with 3 available. The one I picked was very average looking (Bao), but had worked several other places in the past and was very experienced. But the service she offered was actually way way better than a much younger and prettier lady (Mimi) I had in Cherry two days prior. So that was at least something good. But what was strange is they immediately said they could discount the price even before I had been shown the price list, and even before I even had a chance to "hesitate". So they knocked off 200 B on the 40 minute service even without me having to even put an effort in bargaining. And I would probably even pay the full price if they didn't mention it, as I just wanted to test the place. I don't know if it was a quiet night or what, but you can maybe get away with cheaper in Sky.
Comparing with many of the SW in the area between Ploen Chit and Asok, they normally ask 2000 or 3000, but the 2000 ones will go for 1500 normally. Don't think its usual to find anyone who does ST for less, or maybe its possible but I don't feel that I want or have to go so low in looks. Blacks are always out of the question. Some SW strangely enough asks 3000 even they are not even good looking, and don't go for less. Weird.
But comparing quality of service, even if you can get a decent looking SW for 1500-2000, I don't really see the obvious benefit from a massage parlour girl, as they just have one thing in mind and its to get it over as quick as possible, and some appear very uninterested and lack of any energy. In MP, they do always make an effort and are more experienced (although some are better than others also there), and you will get showered and with all the safety and comfort, also no risk of thefts from the room. Some SW are just short time tourists, from Ho Chi Minh or Phnom Penh who wants to make some bucks in a couple of weeks before continuing their life there. So basically no professionalism, and some can be rude. So the best deal from my perspective is obviously the Massage Parlours.
But with that said, who has some experience from the others in the same street as Sky? Are they basically more or less same deal, or anyone more recommended than others?
There are a few here, for example Paradise S22, Honey Bee, Bangkok Passion, Kiss, Dive etc. There were some quite attractive ladies in front of one or two.
[QUOTE=VonBoegroeff;2906688]Comparing with many of the SW in the area between Ploen Chit and Asok, they normally ask 2000 or 3000, but the 2000 ones will go for 1500 normally. Don't think its usual to find anyone who does ST for less, or maybe its possible but I don't feel that I want or have to go so low in looks. Blacks are always out of the question. Some SW strangely enough asks 3000 even they are not even good looking, and don't go for less. Weird.
But comparing quality of service, even if you can get a decent looking SW for 1500-2000, I don't really see the obvious benefit from a massage parlour girl, as they just have one thing in mind and its to get it over as quick as possible, and some appear very uninterested and lack of any energy. In MP, they do always make an effort and are more experienced (although some are better than others also there), and you will get showered and with all the safety and comfort, also no risk of thefts from the room. Some SW are just short time tourists, from Ho Chi Minh or Phnom Penh who wants to make some bucks in a couple of weeks before continuing their life there. So basically no professionalism, and some can be rude. So the best deal from my perspective is obviously the Massage Parlours..[/QUOTE]Sometimes when a Thai girl doesn't want to go with you for whatever reason, they quote a ridiculous price. 3 K for a SW is just that. I agree that MPs are the best value in Bangkok for price, looks and service optimum. You can find some young cuties, service is better than SW and many Gogo girls and price is reasonable. I do most of my mongering in MPs if I go to BKK. Gogos are just to look and grab some tits and buy a few drinks. I used to do more SW but quality has dropped and prices have risen. If you want SW, beach Road in Pattaya most will go for 1000 to 1500.
Any of you guys tried the two girl BJ at 7 Heaven? Worth the money?
How about the 69 option that's apparently available?
[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2906611]I ran across a video on YouTube that I found interesting. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U72fbziiFTE[/URL] I'm curious to know if the prices quoted are accurate or in the ballpark? They seem to be very inflated. I say that, confessing that I haven't indulged in commercial "services" in BKK for about 4 years. (I've been spending my $ in Cambodia and have gik-type (fuck buddy) relationships with a couple of former Soi Cowboy damsels.).
Thanks for any comments as the accuracy of what is presented in the video bases on actual recent experiences.
Sam.[/QUOTE]For the barfine and ST prices in Nana it seemed accurate to me. We paid 1000 barfine and 3000ST at both Billboard and Butterflies. Some members said that was a little high but that is what we paid and we're super happy. Took same two girls from Butterflies a second night and had a big in room party at the Sheraton. Price on veggie massage was on point too — we paid 300 for amazing veggie massage every morning to start the day. High recommend.
So I would guess his other pricing is accurate.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2906836]For the barfine and ST prices in Nana it seemed accurate to me. We paid 1000 barfine and 3000ST at both Billboard and Butterflies. Some members said that was a little high but that is what we paid and we're super happy. Took same two girls from Butterflies a second night and had a big in room party at the Sheraton. Price on veggie massage was on point too we paid 300 for amazing veggie massage every morning to start the day. High recommend.
So I would guess his other pricing is accurate.[/QUOTE]Same guy has a review of Thermae saying 5,000 is the going price (about 3 min in). I thought it was a lot less than that?
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj2az2CR2Kk[/URL]
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2906841]Same guy has a review of Thermae saying 5,000 is the going price (about 3 min in). I thought it was a lot less than that?
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj2az2CR2Kk[/URL][/QUOTE]The only place to get unbiased, recent, correct information is here, not monetized platforms.
2500-3000. If you are quoted more than that its a deliberate discouragement.
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2906841]Same guy has a review of Thermae saying 5,000 is the going price (about 3 min in). I thought it was a lot less than that?
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj2az2CR2Kk[/URL][/QUOTE]Well for non asians some of them at Thermae do quote higher rates so he probably got that rate. Asians would usually get 3 k rate. I've seen quite a few of them and one popular lady said 4 k another which probaly didn't want to go with me said 5 k and the rest 3 k.
[QUOTE=Jarjarmissa;2906355]April 2024 - During my visit to BKK, I've tested the following:
THAI FRIENDLY.
Anyway, I had 2 meetings in my room, ok and one amazing ewperience: A threesome with a 26 why (Level 9) girl + her husband 50 why old. It was their first experience so not a PSE meeting but a surprising one for. 0 baths.
So then, do no throw away TF as option IMHO, just be prepared to spend time and pay attention, my tips: if the online pic looks to nice to be true maybe indeed it is not True + if only 1 pic, swipe. They can have 1 or 2 pics really attractive and when you see others, it is less the case.
Take care and enjoy.[/QUOTE]I am kind of curious how you arranged the threesome with the girl from TF and the husband as I don't think that type of thing is common in BKK unlike some Countries in say Europe! Did she advertise it or offer it, or did you ask or make suggestions looking for a threesome?
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2906841]Same guy has a review of Thermae saying 5,000 is the going price (about 3 min in). I thought it was a lot less than that?
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj2az2CR2Kk[/URL][/QUOTE]Also, he omitted important details, such as:
Did he just ask each "beautiful" girl in Thermae how much for Short Time?
He says they would not budge from that 5,000 baht quote. But did he first mention anything specific that he wanted in the session? DFK? BBBJ? BBFS+CIP? Anal? COF? Anything?
Did he accept the 5,000 baht quote from any of the "beautiful" girls he approached and take her to his room? If so, was he happy about or satisfied with the session he got?
Without that kind of info his assessment and even his statement about current pricing in Thermae is meaningless.
But I must say he or other guys who suggest Thermae (or other venue) girls who quote as much as 5,000 baht for Short Time are probably just telling the guy she doesn't want to go with him in a nice, polite and diplomatic way have met some very nice and polite girls in that place.
Really. How nice and polite of those "beautiful" girls to simply tell you an additional relatively insignificant amount of baht like 2,000 more than their going rate will get you the session you want with them. I mean, considering you'd be lucky to get a rewarding Short Time session you want with practically any go-go girl in town factoring in drinks and barfines for 5,000 baht. And would that go-go girl be as "beautiful" as the Thermae girls the guy in that video is talking about?
LOL. Should I crow about never having even one "beautiful" Thermae girl hit me with a 5,000 baht quote in order to agree to the kind of session I want? I wish it were that easy. Funny, I have yet to meet any Thai P4 P girl in Thermae or anywhere else who was too shy, too polite or too diplomatic with me to simply look me in the face and say No when she means No.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2906979]Also, he omitted important details, such as: …. [/QUOTE]I question how well informed that YouTube poster really is, this comment simply based on how he pronounced "Thermae". That's not how I've heard Thai people say it. Makes me wonder how he pronounces Thailand.
I did agree with prices he reported in a separate video.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2907135]I question how well informed that YouTube poster really is, this comment simply based on how he pronounced "Thermae". That's not how I've heard Thai people say it. Makes me wonder how he pronounces Thailand.[/QUOTE]Damn I actually had to click on the video. I pronounce Thermae the same way he does. The "th" is just like how you would pronounce thermos. In fact, I don't think I've heard any guy pronounce it differently. Yes, we would not pronounce Thailand the same way. Then again, I don't normally pronounce Thailand the same way a Thai girl would unless I am imitating them. Maybe it's my Swedish accent.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2907135]I question how well informed that YouTube poster really is, this comment simply based on how he pronounced "Thermae". That's not how I've heard Thai people say it. Makes me wonder how he pronounces Thailand.
I did agree with prices he reported in a separate video.[/QUOTE]I also pronounce same as youtuber. Friend that introduced me to it pronounced it to me that way. Can't remember if the ladies I visited pronounced it the same or not. They usually just referred to it as Cafe.
[QUOTE=Lcale1982;2907170]I also pronounce same as youtuber. Friend that introduced me to it pronounced it to me that way. Can't remember if the ladies I visited pronounced it the same or not. They usually just referred to it as Cafe.[/QUOTE]Years ago I picked my first Thermae lady and asked how it was pronounced, she used the hard "T" sound with accent at the end. Later I asked the second Thai lady and got the same reply. Today I checked Google Translate and got the same pronunciation. Apparently I was wrong by assuming all those who frequented Thermae pronounced it the same.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2907163]Damn I actually had to click on the video. I pronounce Thermae the same way he does. The "th" is just like how you would pronounce thermos. In fact, I don't think I've heard any guy pronounce it differently. Yes, we would not pronounce Thailand the same way. Then again, I don't normally pronounce Thailand the same way a Thai girl would unless I am imitating them. Maybe it's my Swedish accent.[/QUOTE]What other word in Thai that would be translated and spelled in English with a Th is pronounced as the Th in Thermos?
Baht or Bath? I have seen that word for Thai currency spelled both ways by Thai prople because whether it is spelled baht or bath in English Thai people say it the same way, as a sole T sound. Thailand? Thai? None that I can recall. It was predicted, I think accurately, that some new club called Myth would eventually be referred to by the girls as Mit or Mid, wasn't it?
I am not even sure the Th sound as in Thermos exists in the Thai language. I don't recall hearing it much at least.
I have only heard a couple of westerners referring to Thermae as one pronounces the Th in Thermos. And I think both of them also insist on calling PATtaYA as pTAIya with the accent on the second syllable. LOL.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2907174]Years ago I picked my first Thermae lady and asked how it was pronounced, she used the hard "T" sound with accent at the end. Later I asked the second Thai lady and got the same reply. Today I checked Google Translate and got the same pronunciation. Apparently I was wrong by assuming all those who frequented Thermae pronounced it the same.[/QUOTE]I'm with you, it's pronounced "Termae" by all Thais.
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2907180]I'm with you, it's pronounced "Termae" by all Thais.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Hard T.
Fun conversation to discuss LOL. Didn't even konw Thermae is a real word and apparently google proper pronunciation is Thur.-mee (american) thuh-mee (british), I always pronounced it Thur.-may. I guess would make sense to pronounce it the way Thais pronounce it if you're talking to them but among my fellow americans I'd still pronounce it my way even tho its off a little from googles proper way hah. How many of you guys actually knew its as real word?
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2907177]What other word in Thai that would be translated and spelled in English with a Th is pronounced as the Th in Thermos?
Baht or Bath? I have seen that word for Thai currency spelled both ways by Thai prople because whether it is spelled baht or bath in English Thai people say it the same way, as a sole T sound. Thailand? Thai? None that I can recall. It was predicted, I think accurately, that some new club called Myth would eventually be referred to by the girls as Mit or Mid, wasn't it?
I am not even sure the Th sound as in Thermos exists in the Thai language. I don't recall hearing it much at least.
I have only heard a couple of westerners referring to Thermae as one pronounces the Th in Thermos. And I think both of them also insist on calling PATtaYA as pTAIya with the accent on the second syllable. LOL.[/QUOTE]Is it just the Thai lady I was with or do all Thais pronounce Kanchanaburi like a Greek city name. I know I am old and deaf but it sure sounded like can-a-nop-o-lee. 555.
Got 2 nights under $30 at Nana Suits in Soi 11 area. Business must be Bad. Usually in $40's.
Suckkskran not drawing people from the 4 corners of the Planet like they thought. Hahaha.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2907177]What other word in Thai that would be translated and spelled in English with a Th is pronounced as the Th in Thermos?[/QUOTE]I'm sure if you're from the UK you pronounce things very differently than me with my Swedish accent. Don't matter. This isn't grammar school here. I don't go around correcting every guy who spells "you're" as "your" or "their" or "they're" as "there".
Not even sure why you quoted me cause where did I say Thai pronounce Thermae like thermos? I'm sure you speak Thai like I do and you know there is no "th" sound in the Thai language. A Thai would say it with a "t" (combined with 'd') sound like they do with Thailand (this is what I said). I was saying guys (Farang) pronounce it with a "th" sound same as you have confirmed.
Since you brought it up. This is from the Merriam Webster dictionary.
thermae ˈthərˌmē
thermos ˈthər-məs
The first syllable is pronounced the same as thermos!
[QUOTE=AggieDad1;2907210]Is it just the Thai lady I was with or do all Thais pronounce Kanchanaburi like a Greek city name. I know I am old and deaf but it sure sounded like can-a-nop-o-lee. 555.[/QUOTE]Thais don't normally pronounce the letter "R" they pronounce as "L" easiest example is Farang is pronounced as Falang and aroi (delicious) as aloi. Also no "V" in Thai alphabet so Villa Market is Willa Market. Also T and D is interchangeable in several words. Nitnoi Nidnoi same same. Chitlom Chidlom same same.
Sorry for cluttering up the forum with posts about language.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2907243]I'm sure if you're from the UK you pronounce things very differently than me with my Swedish accent. Don't matter. This isn't grammar school here. I don't go around correcting every guy who spells "you're" as "your" or "their" or "they're" as "there".
Not even sure why you quoted me cause where did I say Thai pronounce Thermae like thermos? I'm sure you speak Thai like I do and you know there is no "th" sound in the Thai language. A Thai would say it with a "t" (combined with 'd') sound like they do with Thailand (this is what I said). I was saying guys (Farang) pronounce it with a "th" sound same as you have confirmed.
Since you brought it up. This is from the Merriam Webster dictionary.
The first syllable is pronounced the same as thermos![/QUOTE]I only quoted you because your post was simply a generic, non committal comment about how you have heard it said and not a definitive correction of how it must be said. As was my response.
And my questions about which other words in Thai include a th as in Thermos sound was a genuine query of you or anyone else who might know, not a criticism of how you or anyone else says it. I apologize if it came across otherwise.
Hi all.
Bit of left field question, flying into / out of BKK has anyone ever had their carry on bag / case weighted or scrutinized for being overweight? It's just I was surprised when booking my latest flight that most popular airlines like Emirates, Thai airways, airAsia etc only give a 7 kg carry on allowance! It seems quite stingy. My well travelled "cabin size" small case is always thought of as a 10 kg case and whenever I have checked that it was always around 9-11 kg in weight.
I usually check a bag but after my two last trips to BKK (first I missed a connection because of bags not being properly checked through, then the following trip they lost a case on me) so I want / need to keep my stuff close to me as I also have a very tight transit stopover on the way in. Don't want to miss the flight for any reason and miss the fun of the day in BKK!
Thanks.
P.
[QUOTE=PgReal;2907341] I was surprised when booking my latest flight that most popular airlines like Emirates, Thai airways, airAsia etc only give a 7 kg carry on allowance! It seems quite stingy. [/QUOTE]They all say 7 kg but any non budget airline like JAL, ANA, EVA, Cathay won't follow those rules. Air Asia is the only budget airline I've ever flown and they are extremely picky. They are out to seek extra money for checked baggage. Flew Thai Airways twice in 2024 and no sign of weighing any luggage. My backpack and carry on must have weighed over 15 kg.
Do what everyone else does. Wear a jacket and put everything heavy in your pant and jacket pockets.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2907348]They all say 7 kg but any non budget airline like JAL, ANA, EVA, Cathay won't follow those rules. Air Asia is the only budget airline I've ever flown and they are extremely picky. They are out to seek extra money for checked baggage. Flew Thai Airways twice in 2024 and no sign of weighing any luggage. My backpack and carry on must have weighed over 15 kg.
Do what everyone else does. Wear a jacket and put everything heavy in your pant and jacket pockets.[/QUOTE]Thanks, that's what I thought would probably happen in reality, but good to hear it first hand! Can't afford for any more delays at the gate and having to check the bag into the hold or I'll definitely miss the connection.
Yeah. Not only will be wearing the jacket, but also the full business suit, two pairs of socks, jocks and shorts under the pants and god knows what else haha!
Just flew airAsia from Osaka to Bangkok. Paid an extra 1100 Bhat to up my carryon weight from 7 kg to 14 kg. They did check the weight of my carry-on roller bag but didn't weigh my back which is nearly the size and weight of my roller bag. And I had a sling they didn't count.
[QUOTE=PgReal;2907341]Hi all.
Bit of left field question, flying into / out of BKK has anyone ever had their carry on bag / case weighted or scrutinized for being overweight? It's just I was surprised when booking my latest flight that most popular airlines like Emirates, Thai airways, airAsia etc only give a 7 kg carry on allowance! It seems quite stingy. My well travelled "cabin size" small case is always thought of as a 10 kg case and whenever I have checked that it was always around 9-11 kg in weight.
I usually check a bag but after my two last trips to BKK (first I missed a connection because of bags not being properly checked through, then the following trip they lost a case on me) so I want / need to keep my stuff close to me as I also have a very tight transit stopover on the way in. Don't want to miss the flight for any reason and miss the fun of the day in BKK!
Thanks.
P.[/QUOTE]
Another trick people do when they have lots of carry on is they have one of those large shopping bags and load it up with stuff. Most airlines won't weigh those or even count them as a carry on. As Global wrote some times you get lucky and Air Asia doesn't weigh all your bags. Possibly cause he paid 1100 baht for over weight carry on already.
Has anyone used Smooci lately? Some nice FL on there. TIA.
As a first time visiting, is a trip worth it in late May? I know it's considered the shoulder season, will I get the full experience? I have seven days and open to suggestions.
Last 20 to 30 reports. Firstly we were having our pronunciation classes, now we are discussing cabin baggage policies of airlines. I think we should come back to our main agenda. No offence to any one. A plain and simple advise. Happy songkran.
[QUOTE=Ranvir226;2907438]Last 20 to 30 reports. Firstly we were having our pronunciation classes, now we are discussing cabin baggage policies of airlines. I think we should come back to our main agenda. No offence to any one. A plain and simple advise. Happy songkran.[/QUOTE]So in your humble opinion, travel is out of bounds to talk about and culture (language for example). But it's fine to talk about International phone call plans and sim cards as in your last post!?
Great a grip.
[QUOTE=Ranvir226;2907438]Last 20 to 30 reports. Firstly we were having our pronunciation classes, now we are discussing cabin baggage policies of airlines. I think we should come back to our main agenda. No offence to any one. A plain and simple advise. Happy songkran.[/QUOTE]Bro, this Boards in English and a whoooooooole bunch of folks who read it are from the West, many of whom are clueless not only about pussy in Thailand (or pussy in general) but also about life and traveling in Asia.
As a result, the random musings about pronounciation, cabin baggage, food, Thai politics, etc make this forum one of the BEST sources of DEEP information about traveling, living and FUCKING in Thailand on the Internet foir Westerners.
Why? Because only the rat really knows the sewer. Gutter crawling mongers know where its at.
Now consider: all the other Thailand forums can give you good information but censor the funner aspects. Hell, you can't even write the word fuck. And while I roll my eyes at the porn novels some folks write here, I read them anyway to glean that IMPORTANT information, good food, good rooom, good route, cool sight, fun market, interesting interactions.
When I, 30 years at this, need some info, I search here FIRST, then go to other sources. And if I see a respected member say, hey, after I got my turgid pole slobbered over, I ate a Burger at. , I put it on my list to go there. And I already know about Air Asia, I have flown it 8 times in the past 12 months, but I bet Billy Bumbleshoot from Sheepdip-on-Tyne doesn't.
[QUOTE=LittleCs;2907435]As a first time visiting, is a trip worth it in late May? I know it's considered the shoulder season, will I get the full experience? I have seven days and open to suggestions.[/QUOTE]Mid May is still pretty hot. I usually return to Thailand after my Songkran hiatus in mid-May. It's a good time to be in Thailand if heat is not an issue for you. The Songkran fools are gone. The girls are coming back down to earth having spent all their money they made over Songkran. The ball is back in the men's court in terms of pricing. Sure there may only be 70% of the number of girls by mid-May but 70% of A LOT of girls means there's now only a lot of girls. The girl to guy ratio is crazy.
A lot of guys whine how crappy Thailand is now but I bet we all wish it was our first visit to Thailand again.
Oops, my mid-May experiences are in Pattaya. Thought I'd mention that since this is the Bangkok thread.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2907503]Mid May is still pretty hot. I usually return to Thailand after my Songkran hiatus in mid-May. It's a good time to be in Thailand if heat is not an issue for you. The Songkran fools are gone. The girls are coming back down to earth having spent all their money they made over Songkran. The ball is back in the men's court in terms of pricing. Sure there may only be 70% of the number of girls by mid-May but 70% of A LOT of girls means there's now only a lot of girls. The girl to guy ratio is crazy.
A lot of guys whine how crappy Thailand is now but I bet we all wish it was our first visit to Thailand again.
Oops, my mid-May experiences are in Pattaya. Thought I'd mention that since this is the Bangkok thread.[/QUOTE]If my first visit would have been in the last 5 years, I would not have moved here.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2907534]If my first visit would have been in the last 5 years, I would not have moved here.[/QUOTE]This is something that has confused me for years with expats in Thailand. So many are so disgruntled with the hobby scene (price and girl quality) but still live in Thailand. I saw the demise coming in 2018 so moved to Japan even before COVID.
Why do you guys remain in Thailand assuming you don't have a Thai wife? There are places out there with tons of girls even cheaper than Thailand. PP, Jakarta, PI to name a few. imo Jakarta is currently hands down the best place for value for pretty young girls.
Admittedly, Bangkok is a better place to live if girls aren't your main priority but for me if not for girls I'd live in Switzerland or Tokyo.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2907546]This is something that has confused me for years with expats in Thailand. So many are so disgruntled with the hobby scene (price and girl quality) but still live in Thailand. I saw the demise coming in 2018 so moved to Japan even before COVID.
Why do you guys remain in Thailand assuming you don't have a Thai wife? There are places out there with tons of girls even cheaper than Thailand. PP, Jakarta, PI to name a few. imo Jakarta is currently hands down the best place for value for pretty young girls.
Admittedly, Bangkok is a better place to live if girls aren't your main priority but for me if not for girls I'd live in Switzerland or Tokyo.[/QUOTE]Even pussy gets boring if its in your face day in and day out when you're in the Pattaya zoo. I can't imagine living in any of the sex tourism centers like Pats, AC, etc. Bangkok is an interesting city in its own right with many attractions but also horrific traffic and pollution etc. Jakarta I agree is the best place for Asian pussy today but I couldn't live there either. Its no wonder expats living in sex tourism centers (sexpats) eventually get jaded and bored. For me it happens on day 4 so all my trips are usually less than 4 days if sex is the main purpose.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2907546]This is something that has confused me for years with expats in Thailand. So many are so disgruntled with the hobby scene (price and girl quality) but still live in Thailand. I saw the demise coming in 2018 so moved to Japan even before COVID.
Why do you guys remain in Thailand assuming you don't have a Thai wife? There are places out there with tons of girls even cheaper than Thailand. PP, Jakarta, PI to name a few. imo Jakarta is currently hands down the best place for value for pretty young girls.
Admittedly, Bangkok is a better place to live if girls aren't your main priority but for me if not for girls I'd live in Switzerland or Tokyo.[/QUOTE]Bingo. Thai wife, friends, etc. I was mid 30's when I moved here in 99, and Bangkok ticked all the boxes. Now approaching 60 and the weather hotter in the pollution worse, it's not that enchanting especially with the changes in the p4 p scene. Absolutely jealous as I can be of you living in Japan. I've made a few trips and absolutely love the country. It's clean, everything works, the food is outstanding, transportation is wonderful, it's not particularly expensive, and you have four seasons. I found that as I get older my ability to deal with heat has decreased in cold weather really agrees with me. We're thinking about spending February March and April in Japan every year. Unfortunately in Japan you only have three visa options, marry one, start a business, or get a job.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2907546]This is something that has confused me for years with expats in Thailand. So many are so disgruntled with the hobby scene (price and girl quality) but still live in Thailand. I saw the demise coming in 2018 so moved to Japan even before COVID.
Why do you guys remain in Thailand assuming you don't have a Thai wife? There are places out there with tons of girls even cheaper than Thailand. PP, Jakarta, PI to name a few. imo Jakarta is currently hands down the best place for value for pretty young girls.
Admittedly, Bangkok is a better place to live if girls aren't your main priority but for me if not for girls I'd live in Switzerland or Tokyo.[/QUOTE]I think yours is a very good question for expats who are truly disgruntled by the Thai P4 P scene. But I suppose the reason I and so many other expats I know don't choose to move elsewhere is because we are not all that disgruntled by it, assuming, as you point out, the P4 P scene is such a big or sole reason for our living here.
I certainly have had complaints about it, but I don't know if I would say I was ever disgruntled enough to consider moving.
I have still managed to have Real Sex / DFK, DATY, BBBJ, BBFS+CIP and BBBJ+CIM plus occasional Swallow with hundreds if not thousands of above average lookers since I moved here 12 years ago. Then, wonder of wonders, a sweet and lovely, English-fluent young lady fell in my lap at my ripe old age of 70 who has demonstrated more loving care, affection, total sexual satisfaction, fun and great company at a relatively silly small additional expense for me to keep her jobless and free to travel, explore and goof around with me 24/7 than anyone I have ever known.
Meanwhile, my living conditions have been ridiculously comfortable and easy here Bangkok on other issues including condo / apartment living, public transportation, safety, local residents, steady streams of new and old overseas friends, food, shopping, entertainment venues, hell, even year round weather.
Would all of that have happened or been normally available to me in Jakarta, PP or PI? Maybe. But I hear despite BBFS being normally available in Jakarta, simple DFK, DATY and perhaps BBBJ+CIM is not. And I seriously doubt the quality of day to day living conditions are anywhere near that of Bangkok or Pattaya.
PI? I haven't been there in almost 30 years but even back in those good old days for farangs in PI it was much more of crime-ridden shithole than Thailand. I did like the PI P4 P situation better than Thailand, Bareback sex being much more hassle-free there. But I have heard being a farang stopped being such a lucky outcome in terms of getting Real Sex with above average lookers there about 10-15 years ago.
PP, I don't know, never been there. Is it really a better place for 60-75 year old farang expats to live than Bangkok or Pattaya?
Heard a lot about Bangkok scene but never looked into it. Came to know about the website fiwfans.io. The girls on the website seem pretty with good figure and that too at a rate which seems a little too good to be true.
People who have hooked up with girls from Fiwfans, are the photos of girls photoshopped to make them look prettier, fairer and slimmer or are these photos real or at least extremely close to reality?
Are these girls willing to negotiate on the price if someone books them for longer hours instead of just 1 or 2 hours?
And finally, are they service oriented or very mechanical and time watchers?
[QUOTE=OldJack;2907674]Heard a lot about Bangkok scene but never looked into it. Came to know about the website fiwfans.io. The girls on the website seem pretty with good figure and that too at a rate which seems a little too good to be true.
People who have hooked up with girls from Fiwfans, are the photos of girls photoshopped to make them look prettier, fairer and slimmer or are these photos real or at least extremely close to reality?
Are these girls willing to negotiate on the price if someone books them for longer hours instead of just 1 or 2 hours?
And finally, are they service oriented or very mechanical and time watchers?[/QUOTE]Yeah most are tgtbt and shows fairer skin than in reality. The body type are usually same or close to image from the ones I've visited. Only had one that looked a lot slimmer in pics than real life. Most didn't speak too much english and don't really deal w / farangs w / their size restrictions usually listed on their page. A few I had real close to reality face but the usual PS is there like in TF. Only seen maybe 10 ish different ladies from FF so a small sample size.
No clue about negotiating price but my guess is probably not. Guess could depend on the lady if she's popular or not.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2907625]Bingo. Thai wife, friends, etc. I was mid 30's when I moved here in 99, and Bangkok ticked all the boxes. Now approaching 60 and the weather hotter in the pollution worse, it's not that enchanting especially with the changes in the p4 p scene. Absolutely jealous as I can be of you living in Japan. I've made a few trips and absolutely love the country. It's clean, everything works, the food is outstanding, transportation is wonderful, it's not particularly expensive, and you have four seasons. I found that as I get older my ability to deal with heat has decreased in cold weather really agrees with me. We're thinking about spending February March and April in Japan every year. Unfortunately in Japan you only have three visa options, marry one, start a business, or get a job.[/QUOTE]Well I'm in Siem Reap now, which is basicly 6 hours away from BKK so I can party when I want and still have a relaxed lifestyle. Once a month or so is enough for me. Ill end up back in the States for 5-6 months anyway soon /.
[QUOTE=OldJack;2907674]Heard a lot about Bangkok scene but never looked into it. Came to know about the website fiwfans.io. The girls on the website seem pretty with good figure and that too at a rate which seems a little too good to be true.
People who have hooked up with girls from Fiwfans, are the photos of girls photoshopped to make them look prettier, fairer and slimmer or are these photos real or at least extremely close to reality?
Are these girls willing to negotiate on the price if someone books them for longer hours instead of just 1 or 2 hours?
And finally, are they service oriented or very mechanical and time watchers?[/QUOTE]Whole debate on the subject several pages back.
[QUOTE=PgReal;2907473]So in your humble opinion, travel is out of bounds to talk about and culture (language for example). But it's fine to talk about International phone call plans and sim cards as in your last post!?
Great a grip.[/QUOTE]LOL. Great response.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2907685]Well I'm in Siem Reap now, which is basicly 6 hours away from BKK so I can party when I want and still have a relaxed lifestyle. Once a month or so is enough for me. Ill end up back in the States for 5-6 months anyway soon /.[/QUOTE]I'd swallow a bullet before living in the states again. Obviously will have to spend some time here because of the wife's family but we're looking to spend 6 months or so in developed countries with good weather.
Started my mongering journey in the land of smiles.
Visited the infamous Khlong Tan district, using BTS went to Phrom Phong station and then went to 7*eaven BJ salon following the Gmap.
The vibe inside the BJ salon is good receptionist is welcoming. When you enter the salon you are prompted to go through the IPad and.
Choose a girl after that you choose the service type (HJ, BJ and BJ with two girls) and pay after that you can choose one drink of your choice.
Which is included in the service cost.
I choose a girl named Dao for BJ. The girl comes out to the waiting area and escort you to your allotted room and room are upstairs when the girl.
Escorts you upstairs you have a nice view of her ass that's a plus. But rooms are like cabins you can hear everything going on in other cabins.
Its dimly lit with a washing area and a very small bed and almost non existent bedding. But enough for a BJ.
Girl will wash your nether region and rinse her mouth with a mouth wash. After this the deed begins she removed her bra and then she started.
Sucking the tip then did something with her tongue while maintaining eye contact that was amazing and again the sucking continued for 5 minutes.
Then she shifted the attention to my balls and then to my nipples and then started deep throating me and I cummed the experience was amazing.
I wanted to fuck her also but rookie mistake didn't asked whether she meet outside or not.
Pros.
1. Girls are hot.
2. Service is good.
Cons -.
1. The cabins walls are paper thin you can hear what is going on next door.
2. Price for a BJ is a bit high compared to peers.
WIR. Yes.
Damages - 1300 Bhat.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2907625]We're thinking about spending February March and April in Japan every year. Unfortunately in Japan you only have three visa options, marry one, start a business, or get a job.[/QUOTE]You're too popular. Clear you PM box.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2907673]PP, I don't know, never been there. Is it really a better place for 60-75 year old farang expats to live than Bangkok or Pattaya?[/QUOTE]Personally I'd say Thailand is still the best place to retire in SEA. Bangkok is also the most expensive place with a large mongering scene.
For you and your criteria for girls though PP, Jakarta, and PI are way better options than Thailand (as long as you don't believe Gilolo's 99% of Thailand girls do BBFS).
So first I came across Fiwfans with stunning looking girls and dirt cheat rates but after reading multiple posts on this forum all that excitement came crashing down particularly because how far from reality they actually look because of heavy photoshop usage and claiming to be much younger than they actually are.
There are too many suggestions for soapy or massage parlour, thermae cafe and everything which has left me a bit confused.
All I want to know is what's the sure shot way to find girls for FS that actually look pretty and are young and what would be their hourly rate?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2907780]Personally I'd say Thailand is still the best place to retire in SEA. Bangkok is also the most expensive place with a large mongering scene.
For you and your criteria for girls though PP, Jakarta, and PI are way better options than Thailand (as long as you don't believe Gilolo's 99% of Thailand girls do BBFS).[/QUOTE]Yeah, despite it's commercial mongering flaws and negative trends, I still consider Thailand the best place to retire with Cambodia coming in a distant 2nd place. Nowhere else in SEA appeals to me as a long-term residence. Not the PI, not Jakarta although I still consider those 2 destinations great places to visit and have a good time which is another advantage of living nearby in LOS.
Recently, I have fallen in love with Brazilian girls, and I am currently spending a lot of my time down there, but there is no way I want to live in samba land full time although hanging out there 3 or 4 months / year as I have been doing since covid is super fine with me.
[QUOTE=OldJack;2907789]So first I came across Fiwfans with stunning looking girls and dirt cheat rates but after reading multiple posts on this forum all that excitement came crashing down particularly because how far from reality they actually look because of heavy photoshop usage and claiming to be much younger than they actually are.
There are too many suggestions for soapy or massage parlour, thermae cafe and everything which has left me a bit confused.
All I want to know is what's the sure shot way to find girls for FS that actually look pretty and are young and what would be their hourly rate?[/QUOTE]The Sure Shot way to get a pretty young girl is to go to Nana and buy one out of billboard or one of the other good clubs and it'll basically cost you 3 to 4,000 Baht for the hour. There you go. Please read the form for more details and how to do it.
[QUOTE=OldJack;2907789]All I want to know is what's the sure shot way to find girls for FS that actually look pretty and are young and what would be their hourly rate?[/QUOTE]Your best bet and largest selection would be the gogo bars in Nana and Cowboy. Hourly rate 1000-2000 BF plus 3000ST. 2nd would be Thermae 2500-3000 per hour. Then there are the oilies near Phrom Phong. Hourly rate 2000+(.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2907814]Your best bet and largest selection would be the gogo bars in Nana and Cowboy. Hourly rate 1000-2000 BF plus 3000ST. 2nd would be Thermae 2500-3000 per hour. Then there are the oilies near Phrom Phong. Hourly rate 2000+(.[/QUOTE]Sorry if this is a rookie question but what do you mean 1000-2000 BF plus 3000ST?
[QUOTE=OldJack;2907822]Sorry if this is a rookie question but what do you mean 1000-2000 BF plus 3000ST?[/QUOTE]You need to pay the gogo bar 1000 to 2000 baht to barfine the girl. That is the amount of money the bar receives. It is different for each gogo bar. Then you have to pay the girl 3000 baht for short time (1-2 hours). That's what the girl gets. So it's up to 5000 baht for 1+ hour with a gogo girl (137 USD, 128 euro, 109 pound).
Bar fines 700 bahts in Billboard and Rainbow.
Girls want 3000 to 4000 bahts short time.
[QUOTE=OldJack;2907822]Sorry if this is a rookie question but what do you mean 1000-2000 BF plus 3000ST?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LuciferInd7;2907728]Started my mongering journey in the land of smiles.
[/QUOTE]Good first report, thanks for writing it. What you described is exactly what I experienced at 7-Heaven except for one minor detail, I couldn't finish. Her actual BJ technique was insufficient. After I failed, I immediately went to another shop and completed the task. My girl was named Green and she was sweet and absolutely beautiful.
Upon arrival I was given a choice of 4 girls from the iPad. The next man was given a choice of 3. Then entered a group of 4 men. I was soon upstairs, but simple math says they had more customers than providers. I wouldn't be surprised if their large waiting room gets well used.
Hello Folks.
I will be in Bangkok after few years Last I went was pre covid.
Wanted to check where I can pick up Uzbek, Russian and other western girls mostly non thai.
Which nightclubs do these girls hangout?
[QUOTE=OldJack;2907822]Sorry if this is a rookie question but what do you mean 1000-2000 BF plus 3000ST?[/QUOTE]The reason for a bar fine is since the lady will be away from the bar for a period of time, the bar is losing money they would have otherwise made from their cut of the cost of the drinks she would be hustling if she didn't leave with you.
You might get around bar fines by arranging to meet the lady after work, but of course she might find a better deal before then and you're out in the cold. Or heat I guess. We're talking Bangkok.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2907850]Good first report, thanks for writing it. What you described is exactly what I experienced at 7-Heaven except for one minor detail, I couldn't finish. Her actual BJ technique was insufficient. After I failed, I immediately went to another shop and completed the task. My girl was named Green and she was sweet and absolutely beautiful.
Upon arrival I was given a choice of 4 girls from the iPad. The next man was given a choice of 3. Then entered a group of 4 men. I was soon upstairs, but simple math says they had more customers than providers. I wouldn't be surprised if their large waiting room gets well used.[/QUOTE]Yes, I had similar experience as Horsetrader in 7-heaven but also in Madame Claude who also only seemed to have 3 or maybe 4 girls only which you had to pick from the computer on arrival.
Better surroundings / decor than 7-heaven but equally I couldn't finish. Generalizing here of course but the younger girls can lack experience and technique. After about 30 minutes it was obvious to me it wasn't going to happen, she was getting frustrated and tired and was starting to take breaks. I felt sorry for her and made excuses that I was jet-lagged and it was ok etc.
I think what doesn't work in Madame Claude's favor also is that the girls keep their clothes on (well mine did at least. She was a hot young thing) but they also put you almost lying flat on your back on a couch thing. I found it quite restrictive and it was kind of like 'lay there and don't move! It meant you didn't get much of a view of proceedings and it all lacked feeling if you know what I mean.
In the regular MP's at least you can move around, get into different positions etc. That would be my preferred choice nowadays even if it's just OWO I am after or a quick fix. You can also generally see the girls in advance in a line up.
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2907849]Bar fines 700 bahts in Billboard and Rainbow.
Girls want 3000 to 4000 bahts short time.[/QUOTE]Well last time I asked I think it was in February, I was quoted a thousand out of billboard. If your numbers are correct, I always enjoy a bar fine reduction not that I get all worked up over the $10 difference.
[QUOTE=PgReal;2907950]Yes, I had similar experience as Horsetrader in 7-heaven but also in Madame Claude who also only seemed to have 3 or maybe 4 girls only which you had to pick from the computer on arrival.
Better surroundings / decor than 7-heaven but equally I couldn't finish. Generalizing here of course but the younger girls can lack experience and technique. After about 30 minutes it was obvious to me it wasn't going to happen, she was getting frustrated and tired and was starting to take breaks. I felt sorry for her and made excuses that I was jet-lagged and it was ok etc.
I think what doesn't work in Madame Claude's favor also is that the girls keep their clothes on (well mine did at least. She was a hot young thing) but they also put you almost lying flat on your back on a couch thing. I found it quite restrictive and it was kind of like 'lay there and don't move! It meant you didn't get much of a view of proceedings and it all lacked feeling if you know what I mean.
In the regular MP's at least you can move around, get into different positions etc. That would be my preferred choice nowadays even if it's just OWO I am after or a quick fix. You can also generally see the girls in advance in a line up.[/QUOTE]My biggest gripe with BJ Bars is not one of them that I have been in has given the least bit of thought or consideration to what might actually improve the act for the customer or the provider. Unless the dude is fast on the trigger with a BJ under any conditions including straddling a picket fence in a wind storm, requiring a customer to lay flat on his back (oh great. He gets to stare at the ceiling during it) or sitting on a couch while the girl is kneeling on the floor is sure to lead to the girl complaining about having to stay in that position, neck, knee and lower back pains. Scrunched up in a ball on a bed is even worse. Angles are usually all wrong.
It is one of the reasons I stopped bothering to go to BJ Bars. And the reports from my many fellow punter friends of being unable to finish due inevitably to some issue with the position he or she was confined to assuming for lack of a more BJ-accommodating set up is legion.
Note to BJ Bar management; try giving a moment's thought to what might actually improve and accommodate a BJ to Completion session. I have a simple set up in my living room made up of perfectly ordinary and easily available furniture, a desk and an arm chair combo, that is more accommodating for the act than anything I have found in any BJ Bar. I sit on the desk and she sits in the arm chair between my legs facing me, my feet anchored on the arms of the chair.
With that simple combo, she is not fighting gravity to support her upper body, not leaning on one elbow or another, not kneeling on a hard floor, has both hands free to assist the BJ and can work her magic between my legs where she and my legs belong for this act in the first place.
I love getting BJs to Completion and can finish within 10 minutes with a set up like that. If I had to lay flat on my back, have her do it sideways, upside down or backwards, endure her inevitable complaints about her knees, neck and lower back hurting or the nonsense of her shifting from one elbow to the other as they do on a bed, I would never finish either and probably abort the mission after 20 minutes.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2907954]Well last time I asked I think it was in February, I was quoted a thousand out of billboard. If your numbers are correct, I always enjoy a bar fine reduction not that I get all worked up over the $10 difference.[/QUOTE]Yeah I got 1000 at both Billboard and Butterflies last year. Think Bunny mighta been 800 but could have been 1000. Not sure where the 2000 BF being referenced below would be. That's def way too high for BF.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2908018]Not sure where the 2000 BF being referenced below would be. That's def way too high for BF.[/QUOTE]If you're referring to my upward range of a 2000 BF that's typical in BF in Pattaya. I don't think any Pattaya gogo bar still offers 1000 BF.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2908018]Yeah I got 1000 at both Billboard and Butterflies last year. Think Bunny mighta been 800 but could have been 1000. Not sure where the 2000 BF being referenced below would be. That's def way too high for BF.[/QUOTE]Some bars charge different barfine amounts depending on the time of the evening, weekend nights vs weekday nights, holidays and so on. I have known it to range from 700-800 baht on one night to 1,000-1,200 baht on another night in the same bar.
There used to be Nana Plaza gogo bars that charged different barfine amounts for different girls. A two-tiered pricing system; 700 baht for "regular" girls and 1,500 baht for "special" girls. I don't know if that is done in any bars anymore. I actually liked that system. A "special" girl was not only a bit better looking than a "regular" girl but she also tended to agree upfront to BBFS+CIP while the "regular" girls rarely did. And her fee was no different than that of a "regular" girl. Only the barfine was higher. An additional 800 baht well worth paying, IMO.
As I recall, Cowboy 2 gogo bar on Soi Cowboy used to charge a whopping 3,000 baht just for the barfine even during ordinary times. Neither of these conditions were decades ago. I'm talking about just a few years ago, pre Covid.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2907970]My biggest gripe with BJ Bars is not one of them that I have been in has given the least bit of thought or consideration to what might actually improve the act for the customer or the provider. Unless the dude is fast on the trigger with a BJ under any conditions including straddling a picket fence in a wind storm, requiring a customer to lay flat on his back (oh great. He gets to stare at the ceiling during it) or sitting on a couch while the girl is kneeling on the floor is sure to lead to the girl complaining about having to stay in that position, neck, knee and lower back pains. Scrunched up in a ball on a bed is even worse. Angles are usually all wrong.
It is one of the reasons I stopped bothering to go to BJ Bars. And the reports from my many fellow punter friends of being unable to finish due inevitably to some issue with the position he or she was confined to assuming for lack of a more BJ-accommodating set up is legion.
Note to BJ Bar management; try giving a moment's thought to what might actually improve and accommodate a BJ to Completion session. I have a simple set up in my living room made up of perfectly ordinary and easily available furniture, a desk and an arm chair combo, that is more accommodating for the act than anything I have found in any BJ Bar. I sit on the desk and she sits in the arm chair between my legs facing me, my feet anchored on the arms of the chair.
With that simple combo, she is not fighting gravity to support her upper body, not leaning on one elbow or another, not kneeling on a hard floor, has both hands free to assist the BJ and can work her magic between my legs where she and my legs belong for this act in the first place.
I love getting BJs to Completion and can finish within 10 minutes with a set up like that. If I had to lay flat on my back, have her do it sideways, upside down or backwards, endure her inevitable complaints about her knees, neck and lower back hurting or the nonsense of her shifting from one elbow to the other as they do on a bed, I would never finish either and probably abort the mission after 20 minutes.[/QUOTE]You should post a photo of your DIY home BJ sex den in action haha!
Could you imagine if it was like the West and the girls could makes health & Safety claims against their employers for unergonomical apparatus etc.
[QUOTE=PgReal;2908064]You should post a photo of your DIY home BJ sex den in action haha!
Could you imagine if it was like the West and the girls could makes health & Safety claims against their employers for unergonomical apparatus etc.[/QUOTE]Haha. They should do that.
I had barfined BJ Bar girls out of their bar to take them back to my room for a Short Time session, a couple from the old Som's Haven on Soi 14, and gave them full and complete demonstrations of it then.
It is simply a sturdy desk, could be a table, could be a fixed vanity shelf as in many hotel rooms paired with an arm chair. Could be a 900 baht desk and 400 baht plastic patio arm chair from Lotus. Nothing expensive or elaborate. Something one might have on hand anyway. Easy for any BJ Bar to shove in a corner of their cubicles. Stack a couple of cushions on top of the desk / table to adjust for and better line up your package and her face as she sits in the chair and let her go to town in a much more comfortable and accommodating position for it for both of you.
Seems to me some of these speciality venues have custom made massage tables with glory roles cut into them, stirrups fastened to one end to better accommodate rimming, etc.
But that simple desk / arm chair set up to vastly improve conditions for the customer and the provider for a BJ to Completion has never shown up in any Thai BJ Bar I have ever encountered. Magic Table on Soi 7/1 had one VIP room in the back that kind of sorta came close to it but not quite.
The girls I barfined from the old Som's Haven absolutely loved the simple set up I had in my room, volunteered unsolicited praise for it, swore it was 100% easier for them to give a much better BJ to Completion that way than the nothing provided for it back in their shop other than a couch and a hard floor.
Of course, I strongly encouraged them to mention it to Som and they always said they would. But This Is Thailand, so I am sure neither of them even remembered it by the time they got back to the bar and carried on doing their job complaining about neck, knee and back pain while an inordinately high percentage of their customers who are not naturally fast on the trigger can't finish under those strained conditions, abort the mission and never return again. LOL.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2908127]Haha. They should do that.
Seems to me some of these speciality venues have custom made massage tables with glory roles cut into them, stirrups fastened to one end to better accommodate rimming, etc.
But that simple desk / arm chair set up to vastly improve conditions for the customer and the provider for a BJ to Completion has never shown up in any Thai BJ Bar I have ever encountered. Magic Table on Soi 7/1 had one VIP room in the back that kind of sorta came close to it but not quite.
The girls I barfined from the old Som's Haven absolutely loved the simple set up I had in my room, volunteered unsolicited praise for it, swore it was 100% easier for them to give a much better BJ to Completion that way than the nothing provided for it back in their shop other than a couch and a hard floor.
Of course, I strongly encouraged them to mention it to Som and they always said they would. But This Is Thailand, so I am sure neither of them even remembered it by the time they got back to the bar and carried on doing their job complaining about neck, knee and back pain while an inordinately high percentage of their customers who are not naturally fast on the trigger can't finish under those strained conditions, abort the mission and never return again. LOL.[/QUOTE]I love my mongering trips to BKK, nowhere better in the world, I mean there are few places in the world such around nana or Thermae were it's acceptable to basically perv up and down at the girls in the street late at night! My work trip in January got cancelled and I am now counting down the weeks to the next one. But you are totally right the reality is at times so far removed from the porn fantasy that most first time visitors are expecting. Once they come with their feet on the ground in regard to realistic expectations of what to expect, they'll have the time of their lives.
Funny you mention the milking table, that is a another great example of a wholly underwhelming experience in my opinion. It's either Passion or Kiss MP that have one (always confuse the two places as they are directly opposite each other). All I could picture in my head was the girl under the table on her phone, eating her nails, making fake groaning noises while having a cat such on my bits every now and then!
Threesome's are another one, only once have I've had two girls who actually interacted which each other fully and went down on me at the same time (and it wasn't even in Thailand). Usually they take turns and one is always more dominant than the other, I stopped bothering going for two girls a long time ago and wasting the money on them.
[QUOTE=SouthBlrPaw;2907872]Hello Folks.
I will be in Bangkok after few years Last I went was pre covid.
Wanted to check where I can pick up Uzbek, Russian and other western girls mostly non thai.
Which nightclubs do these girls hangout?[/QUOTE]Bangkok not the right place.
Pattaya yes you can.
In Bkk I met with a Russian girl at Mixx club 2 weeks ago but she was in holidays. I had good luck (and fuck).
[QUOTE=PgReal;2908178]Threesome's are another one, only once have I've had two girls who actually interacted which each other fully and went down on me at the same time (and it wasn't even in Thailand). Usually they take turns and one is always more dominant than the other, I stopped bothering going for two girls a long time ago and wasting the money on them.[/QUOTE]This was my experience with the 2 girl blowjob in 7-Heaven. There are 2 girls in the room, but only one working on your cock at any given time.
Thanks.
Ya I had good times at Mix few years back.
Its a hit and miss.
Are there many Non thai girls in there these days?
[QUOTE=Jarjarmissa;2908195]Bangkok not the right place.
Pattaya yes you can.
In Bkk I met with a Russian girl at Mixx club 2 weeks ago but she was in holidays. I had good luck (and fuck).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2908221]This was my experience with the 2 girl blowjob in 7-Heaven. There are 2 girls in the room, but only one working on your cock at any given time.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't waste my time on a two girl BJ and I never have. In a BJ parlour. I can't tell you how many times I have had two hotties gobbling each other while I watch.
Just wondering where abouts the average forum members fit on this list? - but as they say, it's not what you've got it's what you do with it that counts.
[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13287559/Nations-world-smallest-penises-revealed-interactive-map.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2908255]Just wondering where abouts the average forum members fit on this list? - but as they say, it's not what you've got it's what you do with it that counts.
[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13287559/Nations-world-smallest-penises-revealed-interactive-map.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Hilarious. Not sure what nationality all you guys are who say Japanese have 3 inch dicks but Japanese are 0.01 inches smaller than Americans and 0.17 inch larger than Brits. Even those 3 inch Koreans are larger than the UK.
So funny cause by the way guys talk on here on how bug their 8-10" dicks are they would be off the charts. Maybe they're not measuring it correctly?
Hey,
Can you recommend a place, ideally in Phrom Phong or Asoke, that offers a rim job to completion? I'm looking to get rimmed from a girl while she jerks me off at the same time. It might require some kind of seating / table apparatus (see the interesting discussion here about BJ seating arrangements! All advice much appreciated!
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2908304]Even those 3 inch Koreans are larger than the UK.[/QUOTE]OK, there's no need to rub it in.
Where to find girls in Bangkok that are in their 20's, flat belly, slender / toned arms, no big tatoos or piercings, preferably an east-asian look? I went to massage / nuru parlours and Nana gogo but girls don't look as good. But when I went to clubs, I saw some farangs and Asian tourists accompanied with girls that look like what I'm looking for.
See photo of model as an example for the look I am seeking:
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2908229]I wouldn't waste my time on a two girl BJ and I never have. In a BJ parlour. I can't tell you how many times I have had two hotties gobbling each other while I watch.[/QUOTE]I have had a few sessions with two girl BJs where both girls are focused on my cock and balls at the same time. No lesbian stuff, just focused on me. However, it's very hard to plan and execute this. Most of the time, it is one girl on the Job and the other watching.
In that situation, I make sure the girl that is watching is sitting close enough to me to grab and poke which is surprisingly a really nice way to enjoy yourself while getting blown. Also, talking to the girl that is watching and discussing the BJ girls technique is also hot; the jobber usually gets encouraged by what you are talking about and keeps trying to do it better. Another thing that I enjoy is grabbing the girls hand that is watching and either putting her hand on my cock / balls or trying to put her hands on the BJ girls tits or trying to fix her hair so I can see properly.
I have also been shouted at by the mamasan (SOL...if you know, you know!) that I am taking too long. In both situations, I just asked for another girl to continue (a second payment) and the first girl would disappear after being tagged out, freshen up, clothes on and come back and sit with me while new girl was blowing me. Both times, I ordered a ladies drink and we would sit there drinking while my cock gets worked on by the substitute.
It's hard to not have fun in a BJ parlour!!
[QUOTE=Baygon01;2908404]Where to find girls in Bangkok that are in their 20's, flat belly, slender / toned arms, no big tatoos or piercings, preferably an east-asian look? I went to massage / nuru parlours and Nana gogo but girls don't look as good. But when I went to clubs, I saw some farangs and Asian tourists accompanied with girls that look like what I'm looking for.
See photo of model as an example for the look I am seeking:[/QUOTE]Keep looking, you'll find one.
[QUOTE=Baygon01;2908404]Where to find girls in Bangkok that are in their 20's, flat belly, slender / toned arms, no big tatoos or piercings, preferably an east-asian look? I went to massage / nuru parlours and Nana gogo but girls don't look as good. But when I went to clubs, I saw some farangs and Asian tourists accompanied with girls that look like what I'm looking for.
See photo of model as an example for the look I am seeking:[/QUOTE]You may be lucky to pick a "model" up from a club but consider why would she go with you when she could have a rich farang boyfriend?
So your only real option is to pay and probably pay a premium. In the Nana clubs there are a few 9's who might be your taste but like I said you'll be digging deep into your pockets.
The other option is the agencies but once again I'm sure you will be paying a heavy price.
In my estimation the girls who look like your pics don't go into the industry and as I said either they are independently wealthy or have a "funded" life by some rich daddy (sugar or otherwise).
Are you willing to pay the premium for a premium product?
NI.
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[QUOTE=NewImage;2908565]You may be lucky to pick a "model" up from a club but consider why would she go with you when she could have a rich farang boyfriend?
So your only real option is to pay and probably pay a premium. In the Nana clubs there are a few 9's who might be your taste but like I said you'll be digging deep into your pockets.
The other option is the agencies but once again I'm sure you will be paying a heavy price.
In my estimation the girls who look like your pics don't go into the industry and as I said either they are independently wealthy or have a "funded" life by some rich daddy (sugar or otherwise).
Are you willing to pay the premium for a premium product?
NI.[/QUOTE]Bet ya he posts again asking for 1000 baht girls.
[QUOTE=TKOman;2908308]Hey,
Can you recommend a place, ideally in Phrom Phong or Asoke, that offers a rim job to completion? I'm looking to get rimmed from a girl while she jerks me off at the same time. It might require some kind of seating / table apparatus (see the interesting discussion here about BJ seating arrangements! All advice much appreciated![/QUOTE]Hi Mate.
Go to Annalisa.
Make sure you get Luna or Praew.
Also Pam at Doki is a great Rimmer.
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2908322]OK, there's no need to rub it in.[/QUOTE]What the fuck are you talking about.
I just read the thread and English and Us are ok.
I am an Aussie Soi don't care but.
Why are you putting shit on people.
[QUOTE=Baygon01;2908404]Where to find hot non-skanky girls?
Where to find girls in Bangkok that are in their 20's, flat belly, slender / toned arms, no big tatoos or piercings, preferably an east-asian look? I went to massage / nuru parlours and Nana gogo but girls don't look as good. But when I went to clubs, I saw some farangs and Asian tourists accompanied with girls that look like what I'm looking for.[/QUOTE]Chances are the best looking girls you see are with expats who live here or guys who visit Thailand for a few weeks every couple of months. On my first trip I wondered the same thing as you did when I was struggling to meet the very TOP looking Thai girls. Then when I moved here within months I had quite a few of them and no they weren't bar / massage girls.
If you're only a tourist who visits 2 or 3 times per year, how deep are your pockets? Unless you're young and good looking or can make girls laugh like Adam Sandler you don't stand above any other guys visiting Thailand unless you have deeper pockets.
"Wherever possible, the team avoided using studies where men had self-reported their penis size. ".
I call BS. So I glean two pieces if info from this report, Cambodians are the biggest liars and honesty and indifference increase as you go down the list.
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2908255]Just wondering where abouts the average forum members fit on this list? - but as they say, it's not what you've got it's what you do with it that counts.
[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13287559/Nations-world-smallest-penises-revealed-interactive-map.html[/URL][/QUOTE]
Tons of discussion on this.
[QUOTE=Baygon01;2908404]Where to find girls in Bangkok that are in their 20's, flat belly, slender / toned arms, no big tatoos or piercings, preferably an east-asian look? I went to massage / nuru parlours and Nana gogo but girls don't look as good. But when I went to clubs, I saw some farangs and Asian tourists accompanied with girls that look like what I'm looking for.
See photo of model as an example for the look I am seeking:[/QUOTE]
Has anyone here ever tried entering Bangkok or Chiang Mai with this type of sex toy before? I've never traveled with one anywhere before and I read Thailand takes sex toys seriously, however they are working to change that. Any knowledgeable assistance from someone who has experience bringing in sex toys would be appreciated.
[QUOTE=Sawassdee;2908797]Has anyone here ever tried entering Bangkok or Chiang Mai with this type of sex toy before? I've never traveled with one anywhere before and I read Thailand takes sex toys seriously, however they are working to change that. Any knowledgeable assistance from someone who has experience bringing in sex toys would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]A few years ago, I brought in a few battery-powered toys in my checked bags. The bags were not inspected upon arrival. So I don't know if a problem would have been encountered. Probably just confiscation. I have seen recently-posted YouTube videos showing table merchants along lower Sukhumvit opening displaying a variety of toys. Leads me to believe things have loosened up. There must be some expats here who can give "today's" availability.
Sam.
Nana School Girl looked like a Scuba Diver last night.
Googles. ,etc. I was kinda hoping to see her WET Tiddies. She was prepared though. I counted 3 Brassiere s. Impenetrable.
She had what looked like a Dell Computer Call Center employee Hot on her Tail. She looked perturbed,. Maybe the Odor. LOL.
Did she Go with Him. I don't know.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2908565]You may be lucky to pick a "model" up from a club but consider why would she go with you when she could have a rich farang boyfriend?
So your only real option is to pay and probably pay a premium. In the Nana clubs there are a few 9's who might be your taste but like I said you'll be digging deep into your pockets.
The other option is the agencies but once again I'm sure you will be paying a heavy price.
In my estimation the girls who look like your pics don't go into the industry and as I said either they are independently wealthy or have a "funded" life by some rich daddy (sugar or otherwise).
Are you willing to pay the premium for a premium product?
NI.[/QUOTE]Hate to RAIN on anyone's parade but their are NO 9's in Nana Plaza.
No it's not a beauty in the eye of beholder type of deal.
Has anyone seen a girl who would be hired to be a Thai toothpaste model.
Nuff Said.
[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2908800]A few years ago, I brought in a few battery-powered toys in my checked bags. The bags were not inspected upon arrival. So I don't know if a problem would have been encountered. Probably just confiscation. I have seen recently-posted YouTube videos showing table merchants along lower Sukhumvit opening displaying a variety of toys. Leads me to believe things have loosened up. There must be some expats here who can give "today's" availability.
Sam.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the personal experience SamSanuk mak mak. Much appreciated.
[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2908806]Hate to RAIN on anyone's parade but their are NO 9's in Nana Plaza.
No it's not a beauty in the eye of beholder type of deal.
Has anyone seen a girl who would be hired to be a Thai toothpaste model.
Nuff Said.[/QUOTE]Except the barbie doll, super light skinned, generic looking Thai girl is a 7 for me. I far prefer darker, broader featured Issan girls. It is a matter of taste, not fact. And THAT is a fact.
[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2908806]Hate to RAIN on anyone's parade but their are NO 9's in Nana Plaza.
No it's not a beauty in the eye of beholder type of deal.
Has anyone seen a girl who would be hired to be a Thai toothpaste model.
Nuff Said.[/QUOTE]Have you ever seen a toothpaste model that wasn't photoshopped?
[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2908800]A few years ago, I brought in a few battery-powered toys in my checked bags. The bags were not inspected upon arrival. So I don't know if a problem would have been encountered. Probably just confiscation. I have seen recently-posted YouTube videos showing table merchants along lower Sukhumvit opening displaying a variety of toys. Leads me to believe things have loosened up. There must be some expats here who can give "today's" availability.
Sam.[/QUOTE]I have never bought or used a sex toy in Thailand but my observation as I walk along Sukhumvit past the few table vendors who sell them is they much prefer a low key interaction with customers who do approach them, discouraging picking them up even in their display box to make them more visible to passersby and, presumably, the police.
Surely the police know that stuff is on some tables and are willing to look the other way, ignore it and not bust the vendors for selling it. But if a security camera or interested law and order party witnesses them being made aware of it overtly then they can't ignore it or pretend not to have noticed and will then be compelled to deal with it and shut them down.
This would be my observation as recently as last month or so.
Maybe the law the cops would be enforcing is about embarrassing the kingdom, tarnishing its image and so on and not exactly a specific law in the criminal code regarding sex toys. I don't know since I never researched it. I also don't know if the only issue the cops care about is the toys being on display on tables in public and have no issue with someone having one in their luggage or in the privacy of their room. I don't think I have ever seen or heard of a tourist being hassled and their shopping bag being searched and confiscated because a big plastic dildo was found in it.
Just passing along my observation of how it is treated at the vendor tables; Not all that casually, they don't want to draw the cops' attention to it.
You know the Creatures that hang around where Nana School girl used to hang out,. BTS nana. Oneof them got a customer. Looked like Scruffy Arab. Girl solid. 5,. Being generous. Perhaps [URL]Sub.Com[/URL] would rate her HOT.
Rainbow s are a Changing. More Hotties than usual.
In the audience. Seems like a Chinese Tourist attraction.
Don't know if Rainbow girls are Happy as guys with girlfriends or wives don't Barfine.
I was one night in Don Muang area Alex Hostel room nice and clean with AC (700 THB), 10 mn walk from airport. It was too short to go to Bangkok center, I found some ads in fiwfans. Io. , which works fine with google translate. I search Don Mueang area I find some nice ladys, you just need to make contact by Line, and you will receive photos and you get service with price same as in the website but need to use line translate. I contacted several one replied in English, she give me the way to join to her room, I got there (5 mn moto taxi), meet here really nice speaking little English good service. Book 2 hours for 2600 THB. Nice body, natural boob, beautiful pussy excellent service.
On my way back on Thanon Song Prapha, I saw 2 bars with girl after happy avenue mall, maybe next time need to try.
Would anyone like to sign a Petition requireing Nana School Girl to move. She is quite the FIRE hazard.
[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2909464]Would anyone like to sign a Petition requireing Nana School Girl to move. She is quite the FIRE hazard.[/QUOTE]I would much prefer they just move that flame grill hot food cart away from the curbside at that Nana Plaza entrance. Not only would it eliminate the bottleneck standstill of foot traffic at that point, but it would also reduce the temperature by at least 3 Degrees Celsius for anyone sitting at the best viewing corner of Stumble Inn (formerly the Big Dog corner).
I hope I don't get swept into the penis size discussion with that casual reference to the old name of that corner of the bar.
[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2909464]Would anyone like to sign a Petition requireing Nana School Girl to move. She is quite the FIRE hazard.[/QUOTE]Other than destroying the aesthetics of the area, what is she doing? I find her push-up bra to be quite amusing.
Rainbow 5 last night. Nice face good personality but I swear she had BOX shaped boobs augmentation. Hahaha.
Goofy as Bleep. I'm not using the word Ugly,. Still not sure.
Tried a couple freelancers from ThaiFriendly in BKK, 2000 THB each:
-Age misrepresented.
-Flat like an ironing board when the clothes come off.
-Bad at sex, passive and they couldn't ride in cowgirl to save their life.
I'm looking for the university student who does freelance on the side, not the low income women who resort to sex work to help their family.
Or give me the pro escort / nympho with resone big boobs and butt who is skilled at sex.
[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2909464]Would anyone like to sign a Petition requireing Nana School Girl to move. She is quite the FIRE hazard.[/QUOTE]Maybe we should all chip in a few baht and buy her a new uniform. Or a fire extinguisher.
[QUOTE=Baygon01;2909580]Tried a couple freelancers from ThaiFriendly in BKK, 2000 THB each:
-Age misrepresented.
-Flat like an ironing board when the clothes come off.
-Bad at sex, passive and they couldn't ride in cowgirl to save their life.
I'm looking for the university student who does freelance on the side, not the low income women who resort to sex work to help their family.
Or give me the pro escort / nympho with resone big boobs and butt who is skilled at sex.[/QUOTE]An little mentioned benefit of GoGos. Actual boob observation in many cases. Is it worth the extra $50 to be able to insure that when you whip off the shirt, you immediately grab below to make sure you got a girl?
Up to you.
Walking down sukhumvit somewhere around Hyatt or Thermae, I passed a Japanese dairy maid SW. All froufrou frills in white and yellow. Cute.
[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;2909763]Walking down sukhumvit somewhere around Hyatt or Thermae, I passed a Japanese dairy maid SW. All froufrou frills in white and yellow. Cute.[/QUOTE]Uh oh.
Was it a shoolgirl looking girl?
I was looking to go somewhere and experience the milking table in Bangkok. I know Analisa does it, but I wasn't sure about extras there. I want two girls. For 90 minutes and I want to cum twice, once on the milking table with CIM or COF, and then a second time with sex, preferably BBFS, but condom would also be ok if BB is not available. I think I read that Analisa doesn't do CIM or COF in the shop or at least that's what they say. And of course there's not supposed to be any BBFS there. Do you think I could get what I want there? And, if so, could anyone suggest which girl (s) to choose?
I know there's also Mai and Nong's milking table place, but I'm not sure about the quality of the girls there. Any info about that place would be appreciated.
I. also think I'm going to start trying some Kapoos. I doubt there will be many extras, but the girls on the websites look exceptional in some of the places.
Oh, and I'll post my experience if I can find a good milking table situation.
Glamor massage place is located in Khwaeng Khlong Tan Nuea and has a big neon sign.
First went to doki doki in the evening but the waiting time was too long so was roaming around the block and found this place went inside. A friendly and cute receptionist welcomed me here there were not many people. After 5 min was shown the line up, charges is not same for all the girls here. I choose a girl for a 90 min massage.
She came over to my couch started chatting a bit as we had to wait for 10 min for the room.
She had some curves and her ass was good compared to most thai girls.
We went to the room she undressed she had nice boobs I wanted to suck those bad boys she was getting the bathtub ready.
She cleaned my groin and washed her self then started with a back massage and then she told me to roll to the front side.
Seeing her hot body I got an erection after massaging my legs and arms she started giving me hot sloppy blowjob. I got a bit.
Too excited when started licking my ball and I finished in about 5 min but as it was 90 min massage I had 2 rounds.
Then she started massaging me again after 5 min I was ready for round 2 I told her I want boom boom she cleaned tool.
With a wipe then started sucking when it got erect she wrapped it and started riding me in reverse Cowgirl giving me.
Full view of her nice ass spanked those buns while she was riding me after that I asked her to ride from the front side so.
That I can suck on those melons and she shifted position and started grinding me in cowgirl sucked those melon, wanted.
To suck them a bit more so asked her to get off and lay flat sucked those melons to my heart content then started fucking her.
In missionary her pussy then started queefing it was hot and then I started pounding her in doggy she had nice buns.
It fucking amazing bouncing against those bun after some time she orgasmed but I couldn't come as I cammed earlier.
Then she asked to wait for some time we rested for 5 min then again she came top of me and again started riding me.
I wanted to cum now asked her to kiss but she gave light pecs on lips and neck and I though I will not be able to cum.
Like this I brought her forward rotated her hips upward and started fucking her from there she now began moaning again.
Then I think her stop watch went off I said wait for more time she was moaning now also then I clenched my arms around.
Her waist and started pounding and finally cammed again.
She was sweet she was not in a hurry she gave me a nice bath sitting on my lap. Then I got dressed and left.
I don't remember the girls name but it started with "and".
Face 6. 5.
Body 8.
Pussy 6.
Attitude 8. 5.
WIR. Maybe would try a new girl.
Damages - 4000 bhat.
Visited the famous Thermae cafe on a Friday evening at around 8:30 pm it was jam packed when I first entered many freelancer were there it was a bit overwhelming like a kid in the candy store was checking out the girls and there were many old women also present there asked some ladies their name and charges I thought they were quoting too high of a price for one session 4000 bhat for this price I had two rounds in the MPs. But those were cute young petite girls. Saw another women with tight fit body but was probably older around 35 - 36 asked her name and charges she said her name is Nisha and 3000 bhat and said, you have to pay extra for the room in Rumachit was not in the mood to spend around 4000 bhat for a fuck so left.
Then came back again around 11 pm almost all the young hot girls left and only some were left but Nisha was still there. Now I think she was a bit desperate asked her again what she will charge she said 3000 bhat but now. I said she will have to come to my hotel she agreed. Walked to my hotel its was a 10 min walk from Thermae cafe. When we reached the hotel she went to the washroom.
Alone and she washed herself and later I went to wash myself and then she was there naked under the sheets and I joined her then she said something I didn't wanted to hear no bare back blowjob and kissing then when I saw her body I became excited she had handful of boobs and very toned body and small heart shaped ass, kissed her body for a bit. Then started fucking her in doggy while facing the mirror in my hotel room it was very hot and her pussy was tight but I came early than I wanted to. I was not satisfied wanted to fuck again but gave her 3000 bhat. And she left.
There were many lesson learned in this encounter.
1. Ask her what all things she is willing to do.
2. How many hours she will stay.
3. how many times you can finish.
Face - 6. 5.
Body - 8. 5.
Pussy - 8.
WIR. No not Nisha. Will see if I can get a a girl for long time will prefer that.
Can you still get a BBBJ at Afterskool? I used to go there many years ago when I stayed in Bangkok for a few months. It was always a nice way to relax over a beer and ease into the night.
Observation. I don't have access to Books. Rainbows of Course.
Customer drink sale Big. Lots of customers. Barfines are practically non existent. Prime time hours.
I wonder if Pricing Matters. At some point it will.
[QUOTE=IndyHundred;2908423]I have had a few sessions with two girl BJs where both girls are focused on my cock and balls at the same time. No lesbian stuff, just focused on me. However, it's very hard to plan and execute this. Most of the time, it is one girl on the Job and the other watching.
In that situation, I make sure the girl that is watching is sitting close enough to me to grab and poke which is surprisingly a really nice way to enjoy yourself while getting blown. Also, talking to the girl that is watching and discussing the BJ girls technique is also hot; the jobber usually gets encouraged by what you are talking about and keeps trying to do it better. Another thing that I enjoy is grabbing the girls hand that is watching and either putting her hand on my cock / balls or trying to put her hands on the BJ girls tits or trying to fix her hair so I can see properly.
It's hard to not have fun in a BJ parlour!![/QUOTE]I've only paid for two girls once. I think it was at bit-style. My experience was good, but I had to take charge of the action. Otherwise it would just have become an endless sequence of one girl sucking while the other girl, wiping off with wet-wipes, other girl sucking, wiping off with wet-wipes, first girl sucking, etc. One of the girls had some bad breath (smoker perhaps), so I did feel a bit sorry for the other girl though.
Your game of talking about the other girls performance sounds fun and I'll keep it in the back of my head for next time.
Maybe I got lucky.
[QUOTE=CIMguy;2909775]I was looking to go somewhere and experience the milking table in Bangkok. I know Analisa does it, but I wasn't sure about extras there. I want two girls. For 90 minutes and I want to cum twice, once on the milking table with CIM or COF, and then a second time with sex, preferably BBFS, but condom would also be ok if BB is not available. I think I read that Analisa doesn't do CIM or COF in the shop or at least that's what they say. And of course there's not supposed to be any BBFS there. Do you think I could get what I want there? And, if so, could anyone suggest which girl (s) to choose?
I know there's also Mai and Nong's milking table place, but I'm not sure about the quality of the girls there. Any info about that place would be appreciated.
I. also think I'm going to start trying some Kapoos. I doubt there will be many extras, but the girls on the websites look exceptional in some of the places.
Oh, and I'll post my experience if I can find a good milking table situation.[/QUOTE]Paradise massage off Soi 22 do it (milking table) , you go down past the Marriott Marquis hotel then just after bear Hug MP shop, there is an alley to the left with loads of massage places. Paradise is one the just around the corner on the left.
Having said all that I don't actually recommend it much based on my experience, nearly two years ago now. I got two girls for 90 minutes, 2 shots. I actually left after about an hour and one shot. Basically they got boring, quite repetitive damn average massage time-wasting routine. I remember also they insisted that I showered alone which I believe is their policy based on other reviews I've seen since. Also I couldn't chose the 2nd girl, the receptionist forced me into pairing her. She was timid and quiet and zero english. I naively thought at the time that the 'receptionist' was doing me a favour picking the two girls that liked each other!
Rainbows did raise price of Ladybugs drinks 10 baht to 220.
[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2909893]Rainbows did raise price of Ladybugs drinks 10 baht to 220.[/QUOTE]How has Billboard been?
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2909773]Uh oh.
Was it a shoolgirl looking girl?[/QUOTE]Yes. If memory serves.
[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;2909970]Yes. If memory serves.[/QUOTE]Go get her. TOFTT.
[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;2909763]Walking down sukhumvit somewhere around Hyatt or Thermae, I passed a Japanese dairy maid SW. All froufrou frills in white and yellow. Cute.[/QUOTE]If she were really Japanese you found the elusive Unicorn that many guys seek when they go to Thailand. I'd be shocked if she were a cute Japanese working in a high end soapie or karaoke bar in Bangkok. I'd be flabbergasted if she were a cute Japanese working as a Sukhumvit FL. A guy (possible shill) just posted he paid a 23 year old Japanese escort 93,300 yen (over 600 USD) for 2 hours in Tokyo.
[QUOTE=Miss MaryHinge;2909970]Yes. If memory serves.[/QUOTE]
There's a photo of the SCHOOL GIRL Nyezhov is referring to on this thread.
[QUOTE=PgReal;2909864]Paradise massage off Soi 22 do it (milking table) , you go down past the Marriott Marquis hotel then just after bear Hug MP shop, there is an alley to the left with loads of massage places. Paradise is one the just around the corner on the left.
Having said all that I don't actually recommend it much based on my experience, nearly two years ago now. I got two girls for 90 minutes, 2 shots. I actually left after about an hour and one shot. Basically they got boring, quite repetitive damn average massage time-wasting routine. I remember also they insisted that I showered alone which I believe is their policy based on other reviews I've seen since. Also I couldn't chose the 2nd girl, the receptionist forced me into pairing her. She was timid and quiet and zero english. I naively thought at the time that the 'receptionist' was doing me a favour picking the two girls that liked each other![/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up, both the option and the review. I'll check out their website. I may just go to Mai and Nong's place first since it's their specialty. I'll see if any girls are attractive to me and go from there. I can always try Analisa or paradise if the girls don't move me.
[QUOTE=CIMguy;2910053]Thanks for the heads up, both the option and the review. I'll check out their website. I may just go to Mai and Nong's place first since it's their specialty. I'll see if any girls are attractive to me and go from there. I can always try Analisa or paradise if the girls don't move me.[/QUOTE]I didn't know they had a place? Where is it?
Are there truly non smoking bars in Bangkok. Shanghai "banned" smoking inside public places, but many bars and restaurants installed large windows the open next to the sidewalk and provide seating next to the open windows. I can tolerate loud music to an extent if I remember to carry ear plugs, but I can not tolerate poison drifting in as I dine or drink. Tokyo has a partial solution banning third hand smoke on city streets but it's allowed in many restaurants.
[QUOTE=TConor;2910148]I didn't know they had a place? Where is it?[/QUOTE]In the Massage Parlour section?
Went to Aya massage at around 10:15 pm it was crowded. The vibe inside seems a bit different from Bangkok more of a middle eastern touch. They took around 10 min for clearing the backlog of choosing the girls and around 30 min to allot a room. I took there standard Nuru massage experience. The girl escorted me to a room showered with me and then we went to bed where she massaged my back and ass with her tits and and later she told me roll to the front side then the started grinding her pussy against my dick bare back (no penetration) and then rubbed her tits against my against my face and chest and some more pussy grinding. After she started giving me a boob job with some hand action also and I cummed after she said to wash and then I left. I felt that service was a bit rushed as they were about to close, girl seemed in hurry.
Girls. Decent better than other MPs (but service seemed a bit rushed).
WIR. Yes will go there early to experience the service when time constraint is not there.
Damages - 3500 Bhat.
"If she were really Japanese you found the elusive Unicorn that many guys seek when they go to Thailand. I'd be shocked if she were a cute Japanese working in a high end soapie or karaoke bar in Bangkok. I'd be flabbergasted if she were a cute Japanese working as a Sukhumvit FL. A guy (possible shill) just posted he paid a 23 year old Japanese escort 93,300 yen (over 600 USD) for 2 hours in Tokyo.
There's a photo of the SCHOOL GIRL Nyezhov is referring to on this thread. ".
I'm willing to wager 100000 thb it was a LB LOL.
Hi.
I don't hear much about it anymore, is the old beer garden on Soi 7 still open or did it close during the pandemic, still any good as a hotspot for freelancers?
I am don't want to sound lazy, it's just I am only getting in for one evening on a stop-over and looking to broaden my horizons so to speak from my usual haunts of Thermae or Nana!
Thanks.
P.
I don't hear much about it anymore, is the old beer garden on Soi 7 still open or did it close during the pandemic, still any good as a hotspot for freelancers?
Sorry Pg, the Beer Gierten has closed and I suspect it has gone forever. Walking from Sukhumvit you pass the newer Soi 7 venues, which in my opinion are a very tame replacement before you get to where the Beer Gierten was.
Johnie.
[QUOTE=PgReal;2910245]Hi.
I don't hear much about it anymore, is the old beer garden on Soi 7 still open or did it close during the pandemic, still any good as a hotspot for freelancers?
I am don't want to sound lazy, it's just I am only getting in for one evening on a stop-over and looking to broaden my horizons so to speak from my usual haunts of Thermae or Nana!
Thanks.
P.[/QUOTE]I think the area that was previously called the beer garden has been assimilated into the wider redevelopment of that side of Soi 7 into multiple shiny, noisy beer bars. However, I recall still seeing a 'beer garden' sign during my last visit in December, so it may still exist in some reduced capacity.
[QUOTE=PgReal;2910245]Hi.
I don't hear much about it anymore, is the old beer garden on Soi 7 still open or did it close during the pandemic, still any good as a hotspot for freelancers?
I am don't want to sound lazy, it's just I am only getting in for one evening on a stop-over and looking to broaden my horizons so to speak from my usual haunts of Thermae or Nana!.[/QUOTE]I've walked through that area a few times over the last few months and twice did a quick walk around the bars. The bars on the soi are better than the ones in the back. There are some cute girls there, but not that many. The back looks mostly dead most times I've seen it. There are just a few older freelancers or bargirls sitting in each bar. Some of the bars near the soi are pretty busy.
I do not recall any beer garden sign, but my eyes were elsewhere.
I hooked up with a few girls at that beer garden when I was stuck there (poor me!) during the pandemic.
[QUOTE=Baygon01;2909580]Tried a couple freelancers from ThaiFriendly in BKK, 2000 THB each:
-Age misrepresented.
-Flat like an ironing board when the clothes come off.
-Bad at sex, passive and they couldn't ride in cowgirl to save their life.
I'm looking for the university student who does freelance on the side, not the low income women who resort to sex work to help their family.
Or give me the pro escort / nympho with resone big boobs and butt who is skilled at sex.[/QUOTE]Finally found a good one on TF. A 26 year old vietnamese with fair skin and nice boobs. She looked like an Asian doll and was enthusiastic in bed.
[QUOTE=Johnie;2910254]I don't hear much about it anymore, is the old beer garden on Soi 7 still open or did it close during the pandemic, still any good as a hotspot for freelancers?
Sorry Pg, the Beer Gierten has closed and I suspect it has gone forever. Walking from Sukhumvit you pass the newer Soi 7 venues, which in my opinion are a very tame replacement before you get to where the Beer Gierten was.
Johnie.[/QUOTE]As I feared, as I haven't heard anyone talking about it in the last year or more really. A shame. I like the talent in Thermae but it would just be nice to have a few more places like it for a change of scene if nothing else. Barfines isn't really my own personal thing.
Thanks.
I tried several times but found that service from escorts / freelancers in Bangkok is not as skilled / enthusiastic compared to from escorts back home in Montreal, Canada.
However, service in massage shops in BKK is close to service at massage shops at home where it's more expensive but offers a variety of looks and ethnicities.
Rates like you have never seen in 30 years. Not counting Voravara times.
$34 a night Majestic Suites. I took 2 nights. I licked Nana School honey pot and got Sick, or something like that. LOL.
Pattaya next stop.
[QUOTE=LuciferInd7;2910219]Went to Aya massage at around 10:15 pm it was crowded. The vibe inside seems a bit different from Bangkok more of a middle eastern touch. They took around 10 min for clearing the backlog of choosing the girls and around 30 min to allot a room. I took there standard Nuru massage experience. The girl escorted me to a room showered with me and then we went to bed where she massaged my back and ass with her tits and and later she told me roll to the front side then the started grinding her pussy against my dick bare back (no penetration) and then rubbed her tits against my against my face and chest and some more pussy grinding. After she started giving me a boob job with some hand action also and I cummed after she said to wash and then I left. I felt that service was a bit rushed as they were about to close, girl seemed in hurry.
Girls. Decent better than other MPs (but service seemed a bit rushed).
WIR. Yes will go there early to experience the service when time constraint is not there.
Damages - 3500 Bhat.[/QUOTE]Yeah, their website says they close at 11:00 (and one of the pages even says 10pm), which is an hour earlier than most. I guess it must have been almost 11 by the time your got into the room, yeah, so the lesson for us all is to avoid the last appointment slots if we don't want to be rushed.
It's easy to forget these girls have lives and families to go home to too.
My own experience has been, best service is early afternoon in MP shops, girls are fresher, less people so more relaxed vibes all around and I find the girls are more chatty (and welcoming) as well, again I guess because they aren't so tired
[QUOTE=CIMguy;2910281]I've walked through that area a few times over the last few months and twice did a quick walk around the bars. The bars on the soi are better than the ones in the back. There are some cute girls there, but not that many. The back looks mostly dead most times I've seen it. There are just a few older freelancers or bargirls sitting in each bar. Some of the bars near the soi are pretty busy.
I do not recall any beer garden sign, but my eyes were elsewhere.
I hooked up with a few girls at that beer garden when I was stuck there (poor me!) during the pandemic.[/QUOTE]I was there about a month ago. Slim pickins. Years ago I had some excellent finds there including the biggest set of natural boobs I have ever seen on a Thai. She tongue bathed me head to toe, too. Lost her number and would give anything to find her again. She was from Isaan.
Learnt from my previous visit so went there in afternoon around 2 pm without any booking. Line up was shown many old women were shown and 2 young women were there so choose one of the young girl and her body was hot too but was not in the mood after seeing the line up but went with the flow. Went upstairs to the allotted room and she started washing me now I can see breast were fake and was done very conservatively from the surgeon side so couldn't tell over the bra that they were fake. The soapy started when I was on my back and got a boob job and blow job when shifted to the frontside. And cammed during the blowjob. Then we shifted to the bed and she started massaging and I can feel unusual high force during massage then what I have experienced from thai girls and now it good lighting I can see something was off about her face for thai girl and boobs were too fake but pussy was there so refrained from fucking I thought it a post-op ladyboy. Only asked for a blowjob again but couldn't cum because of this thought. So paid for two session but left after only one.
Now I think about this there were some sign her height was some what more than avg thai female around 5' 6' and ass was almost flat. So I think had a experience with a postop ladyboy in doki doki. They should have disclosed that it a ladyboy but I also never asked.
When I was leaving saw a client with a hot petite thai lady, who was not shown to me during line up going upstairs they don't show every girl there better to go to their site and check the girls working today and book over Line and then come here.
WIR. Maybe but will book in advance and confirm that she is a girl not a ladyboy.
Damages - 3000 Bhat.
[QUOTE=LuciferInd7;2910453]Learnt from my previous visit so went there in afternoon around 2 pm without any booking. Line up was shown many old women were shown and 2 young women were there so choose one of the young girl and her body was hot too but was not in the mood after seeing the line up but went with the flow. Went upstairs to the allotted room and she started washing me now I can see breast were fake and was done very conservatively from the surgeon side so couldn't tell over the bra that they were fake. The soapy started when I was on my back and got a boob job and blow job when shifted to the frontside. And cammed during the blowjob. Then we shifted to the bed and she started massaging and I can feel unusual high force during massage then what I have experienced from thai girls and now it good lighting I can see something was off about her face for thai girl and boobs were too fake but pussy was there so refrained from fucking I thought it a post-op ladyboy. Only asked for a blowjob again but couldn't cum because of this thought. So paid for two session but left after only one.
Now I think about this there were some sign her height was some what more than avg thai female around 5' 6' and ass was almost flat. So I think had a experience with a postop ladyboy in doki doki. They should have disclosed that it a ladyboy but I also never asked.
When I was leaving saw a client with a hot petite thai lady, who was not shown to me during line up going upstairs they don't show every girl there better to go to their site and check the girls working today and book over Line and then come here.
WIR. Maybe but will book in advance and confirm that she is a girl not a ladyboy.
Damages - 3000 Bhat.[/QUOTE]Obviously I don't know for certain, but I'd very much doubt that Doki Doki would have a ladyboy posing as a girl. They would have one of the more "public" profiles and better reputations amongst the MP shops. It would damage their business and reputation too much to take such a risk with customers.
Also to be fair, that girl you saw on the way out may have started work after you arrived or been with another client (or on a break) when you arrived. You have to have certain realistic expectations too.
Happy mongering.
Hi,
Newbie here, first time to Thailand managing my trip. I wonder if I wish to have a good gogo bar experience where should I go? Is the difference between Bangkok and Pattaya that much of a difference? Got six or seven days of staying wish to experience as much as possible. Got relatively flexible budget, how should I distribute the time in Pattaya and Bangkok and if I wish to try more of gogo bar should I distribute more time to Pattaya? Since I felt there are more playable event in Bangkok and I heard girls are generally prettier, so I wonder what should I do?
Thinking of going to the pimp along, wondering if it is worthy. What should I expect? What I am allow to do there? Should I go for a small private room? Meanwhile, how much do I expect to spend with two girls? Saw the price on their website and I wonder how much would it be flexible. Do I expected to pay like 50% extra than what they mentioned? Newbie need a bit of help here.
Hi guys,
Visiting Thailand (Surat thani) for two weeks till May 2nd week.
For 1st week (work) il be in Surat Thani, diamond plaza hotel.
2nd week am planning to visit Bangkok.
Please suggest / any leads as it's my first visit here, or I need to go pattaya for more options, don't want to spoil these days so please help.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Msdian;2910781]Hi guys,
Visiting Thailand (Surat thani) for two weeks till May 2nd week.
For 1st week (work) il be in Surat Thani, diamond plaza hotel.
2nd week am planning to visit Bangkok.
Please suggest / any leads as it's my first visit here, or I need to go pattaya for more options, don't want to spoil these days so please help.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]If it's for sex only. Go to Pattaya.
100 x more options.
[QUOTE=Msdian;2910781]Hi guys,
Visiting Thailand (Surat thani) for two weeks till May 2nd week.
For 1st week (work) il be in Surat Thani, diamond plaza hotel.
2nd week am planning to visit Bangkok.
Please suggest / any leads as it's my first visit here, or I need to go pattaya for more options, don't want to spoil these days so please help.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Bangkok, more to see and do. RTFF.
[QUOTE=HAliluya;2910754]Thinking of going to the pimp along, wondering if it is worthy. What should I expect? What I am allow to do there? Should I go for a small private room? Meanwhile, how much do I expect to spend with two girls? Saw the price on their website and I wonder how much would it be flexible. Do I expected to pay like 50% extra than what they mentioned? Newbie need a bit of help here.[/QUOTE]Expect nothing but a big bill.
I went there recently. I had a good budget and high hopes but left pretty deflated. It's a cultural thing maybe. I guess there are guys who like to pay pretty women to sit with them while they sip on drinks and joke around with their friends. If you are with a group and want to take one of the rooms for a PG13 karaoke party, there is plenty of that on offer. I find that whole scene a bit adolescent. I went solo and sat in the lounge. Plenty of good looking women and the stage show in entertaining (a little). My solo visit with dinner, a bottle of booze and 2-3 hours of a bikini clad girl next to me cost 20 K. I could have spent more to see if I could get more but, honestly, why bother when there are sooooo many other options at a fraction of this price. I cut my losses and left. Personally I have no use for a place like this. And adjudging by the emptiness of the place on a Friday night, I don't think many others do either.
There are exceptions to everything but unless you live there I wouldn't bother. The girls aren't obligated to do much of anything other than hang out with you. I know people who leave with the girls once their night is over but they've all established a connection over time prior to that.
As I said, exceptions to everything but if you want to get laid it wouldn't make my top 10 places. If you want to check your game or enjoy the hunt it might be ok or if you're with a group of guys. Expect a large bill for not much in return.
[QUOTE=FakeIt;2910834]Expect nothing but a big bill.
I went there recently. I had a good budget and high hopes but left pretty deflated. It's a cultural thing maybe. I guess there are guys who like to pay pretty women to sit with them while they sip on drinks and joke around with their friends. If you are with a group and want to take one of the rooms for a PG13 karaoke party, there is plenty of that on offer. I find that whole scene a bit adolescent. I went solo and sat in the lounge. Plenty of good looking women and the stage show in entertaining (a little). My solo visit with dinner, a bottle of booze and 2-3 hours of a bikini clad girl next to me cost 20 K. I could have spent more to see if I could get more but, honestly, why bother when there are sooooo many other options at a fraction of this price. I cut my losses and left. Personally I have no use for a place like this. And adjudging by the emptiness of the place on a Friday night, I don't think many others do either.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HAliluya;2910752]Hi,
Newbie here, first time to Thailand managing my trip. I wonder if I wish to have a good gogo bar experience where should I go? Is the difference between Bangkok and Pattaya that much of a difference? Got six or seven days of staying wish to experience as much as possible. Got relatively flexible budget, how should I distribute the time in Pattaya and Bangkok and if I wish to try more of gogo bar should I distribute more time to Pattaya? Since I felt there are more playable event in Bangkok and I heard girls are generally prettier, so I wonder what should I do?[/QUOTE]Simple, visit both. Nowadays you don't have to pay for hotels far in advance and with the booking websites you can usually cancel up to a day or so in advance even if you do reserve a room. So go to one place, if / when you get bored move and go to the other place. If you don't get bored in the first place, happy days! You know the saying ' you won't miss what you don't know'.
It's not that difficult to get from Bangkok to Pattaya, like 3 hours out of your trip.
[QUOTE=HAliluya;2910752]first time to Thailand <snip> if I wish to have a good gogo bar experience where should I go? <snip> how should I distribute the time in Pattaya and Bangkok and if I wish to try more of gogo bar should I distribute more time to Pattaya? [/QUOTE]I assume you are landing in Bangkok. Spend 2 nights in Bangkok, 1 at Soi Cowboy and night 2 at Nana. Then take a 90 minute taxi to Pattaya. Spend 1 night in Walking Street and 2nd night at LK Metro. Decide on night 4 which city you'd rather be in for day 5 and either stay in Pattaya or head back to Bangkok. Don't forget to go to other places too like Thermae in Bangkok and Soi 6 in Pattaya.
Generally fewer girls Sun/Mon but Fri/Sat has more customers.
Best area for a complete newbie who isn't a strip club expert in his own city would be LK Metro. Girls generally more laid back and bars don't hustle non-regulars for drinks as bad. Girls are a step below Walking Street for looks though.
If this matters at all, barfines are less in Bangkok. Girl pricing is the same for both cities. Difference is nominal for someone spending only a week in Thailand with gogo bars the main source of getting girls.
Take the above information with a grain of salt. LoveitHere says I'm storytelling and I've never been to Thailand.
[QUOTE=FilthyBeaver;2910863]There are exceptions to everything but unless you live there I wouldn't bother. The girls aren't obligated to do much of anything other than hang out with you. I know people who leave with the girls once their night is over but they've all established a connection over time prior to that.
As I said, exceptions to everything but if you want to get laid it wouldn't make my top 10 places. If you want to check your game or enjoy the hunt it might be ok or if you're with a group of guys. Expect a large bill for not much in return.[/QUOTE]I saw vids on line from many tourist guides in the pimp, where girls are partying naked with them, so I thought it is at least a strip club kind of vibe, and thought one could be more intimate in a private room. So it is about how much they pay? Or? And I do saw people take girls out and paying to the club. So I wonder that is not something I should expect then, for the first visit.
[QUOTE=NRandom940;2910786]If it's for sex only. Go to Pattaya.
100 x more options.[/QUOTE]Wondering why? Newbie here, what are the options in Pattaya other than gogos? Thought Bangkok had more like massage place of different kind.
[QUOTE=HAliluya;2910752]Hi,
Newbie here, first time to Thailand managing my trip. I wonder if I wish to have a good gogo bar experience where should I go? Is the difference between Bangkok and Pattaya that much of a difference? Got six or seven days of staying wish to experience as much as possible. Got relatively flexible budget, how should I distribute the time in Pattaya and Bangkok and if I wish to try more of gogo bar should I distribute more time to Pattaya? Since I felt there are more playable event in Bangkok and I heard girls are generally prettier, so I wonder what should I do?[/QUOTE]As one who has worked and visited Thailand since 1970, I would recommend just spending your free week in Bangkok. Find a hotel in the lower Sukhumvit area (Sois 2-19). There is definitely a difference between the two cities, the main one being Pattaya has a nice polluted beach. LOL Otherwise, Pattaya has nothing that BKK doesn't have. For mongering, BKK has more better-looking women available. (This isn't just my OPINION, but that of an Issan farm girl said she would be working in Pattaya because she doesn't look good enough to start in BKK. LOL) You mentioned that you wish to "experience as much as possible". If you mean outside of mongering, Bangkok offers 10 x the "experiences". From museums, restaurants, shopping, day trips, river cruises, art galleries, temples, zoo, ad. Infin.
Feel free to message me if you would like any other info. Otherwise, have a good trip. You'll have a lot of memories.
Sam.
[QUOTE=Msdian;2910781]Hi guys,
Visiting Thailand (Surat thani) for two weeks till May 2nd week.
For 1st week (work) il be in Surat Thani, diamond plaza hotel.
2nd week am planning to visit Bangkok.
Please suggest / any leads as it's my first visit here, or I need to go pattaya for more options, don't want to spoil these days so please help.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I have worked and visited Thailand since 1970 and am 81 years old. (Yes, old enough to know better but too young to stop.).
For a first-time visitor with only a week of free time, in my opinion, Bangkok is hands-down a better place to spend it.
Aside from a polluted beach, there is nothing Pattaya has that you can't experience in BKK.
While "charm" is not something they have in common, both have similar mongering experiences available. Both have go-go bars, blow job bars, massage joints, "street meat", online talent, etc. That said, in my "OPINION", the quality and quantity of service providers is hands-down better in BKK. For instance, the number of "stunners" in BKK probably outnumbers the number in Pattaya by at least 5-1. (Just my opinion). In fact, one Issan damsel said that she planned to work in Pattaya because she wasn't pretty enough for BKK. Think of Second City TV or "not ready for prime time".
If you plan to spend some of your time outside of mongering, Bangkok has hundreds of more things to do and see. Museums, art galleries, zoo, what is, river cruises, lots of day trip offerings, shopping alternatives, restaurant establishments, ad. Infin.
I would suggest you look for a hotel in the lower Sukhumvit area (Soi 2-23). Make sure it is guest friendly if you plan to bring your new found "love of your life" back to your room. Ha ha ha.
If you feel you need more info than you can glean from the reports on the board, feel free to message me and I'll try fill in some blanks.
Have a good trip.
Sam.
Yes there is a strip club vibe. Just like any other place on the planet the more you're willing to spend the more options will become available to you. Funny how that works, right? Of you've got friends and are looking for a party maybe, if you're single and want to get in and out and laid then no. If you have an almost unlimited budget and want to surround yourself with a harem for the night then this is the place.
[QUOTE=HAliluya;2910966]I saw vids on line from many tourist guides in the pimp, where girls are partying naked with them, so I thought it is at least a strip club kind of vibe, and thought one could be more intimate in a private room. So it is about how much they pay? Or? And I do saw people take girls out and paying to the club. So I wonder that is not something I should expect then, for the first visit.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LuciferInd7;2910453]So I think had a experience with a postop ladyboy in doki doki. They should have disclosed that it a ladyboy but I also never asked.
[/QUOTE]Similar thing happened couple of years back to me in a MP at the corner of Soi 8 and Sukhumvit, in fact I picked the most stunning looking one soliciting customers on the street and did not think she was a postop. 10 minutes into the massage she told that she was a post op. While it made me take longer to come, I did not complain since she also offered to send someone else if I chose to switch her. Have been to Doki Doki also but not seen a LB there, seems quite strange for them to have one.
Hello guys, so finally I am visiting Thailand. I am quite familiar with the scenarios and have read various blogs and sex guides, however some seems outdated or date for quite years ago.
So I need fresh perspective. I also asked a friend of mine who recently visited, but some doubts still remains.
1) Massages.
If I go for massages, for example threesome massages, do girls hesitate to provide DFK? I frankly can not imaging good sex if DFK and BBBJ is out of table. Need inputs on that.
I remember my friend saying, he once used outcall massage, but girls there refused for DFK and only BJ with condom.
2) BJ bars.
Do girls provide DFK here before going down to business? Can I make her topless and suck on titties maybe?
3) Nana plaza.
My most curious doubt.
So I read from a blog that, here you just go and sit in a couch. Look around and call the girl which you like. So she will come to you and sit beside you as long as you're paying for lady drinks. And you can 'publically' kiss as long as you want, make her titties come out and suck on it. She can give you lap dance and maybe BJ if crowd is less, you can just keep pressing her ass, tits and DFK all the time.
But when I asked this to friend, he said that it did not happen. He said maybe it used to happen in past before, but not now. Generally if you like to have BJ or nudity, you're supposed to take girl out. You can't do it there on spot. So is it true?
Need some insights on it.
Also some suggestions if you can. DFK, BBBJ, CIM and young girls with natural titties are my pref.
Also wondering if there's any airport pickup service? Where girl can pick up and give you BJ till you reach your hotel. Haha LOL.
Excitement.
I think Bangkok will be better in a lot of regards.
Apart from the luxury soapies like La Belle and Maria, you can easily score some stunners on thaisideline or fiwfans.
Just be careful and ask if they accept farangs first. I'd recommend TSG as an agency to have some fun, their girls are great and based in an upscale hotel in the Sukhumvit, Thong Long area.
Also, Thailand in May, phew, will be hot AF.
[QUOTE=Msdian;2910781]Hi guys,
Visiting Thailand (Surat thani) for two weeks till May 2nd week.
For 1st week (work) il be in Surat Thani, diamond plaza hotel.
2nd week am planning to visit Bangkok.
Please suggest / any leads as it's my first visit here, or I need to go pattaya for more options, don't want to spoil these days so please help.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LuciferInd7;2910453]. So I think had a experience with a postop ladyboy in doki doki. They should have disclosed that it a ladyboy but I also never asked.
When I was leaving saw a client with a hot petite thai lady, who was not shown to me during line up going upstairs they don't show every girl there better to go to their site and check the girls working today and book over Line and then come here.
WIR. Maybe but will book in advance and confirm that she is a girl not a ladyboy. [/QUOTE]I've been to Doki Doki many times over the years, and am certain that they do not employ any ladyboys. So I think you are mistaken.
Also, if a lady has a booking, obviously she will not be shown in the line up as she would not be available.
[QUOTE=BrandNewMonge;2911096]I think Bangkok will be better in a lot of regards.
Apart from the luxury soapies like La Belle and Maria, you can easily score some stunners on thaisideline or fiwfans.
Just be careful and ask if they accept farangs first. I'd recommend TSG as an agency to have some fun, their girls are great and based in an upscale hotel in the Sukhumvit, Thong Long area.
Also, Thailand in May, phew, will be hot AF.[/QUOTE]Brandnew dude why would you give such shit advice to a newbie?
Luxury sopaies, when he has never been to even a rubntug? Having him sit in his hotel room and play with translated photoshopped profiles and then send him off to the wilds of On Nut when he has never even been to BKK before? TSG? Agencies? Give me a break.
New folks: RTFF.
[QUOTE=TiredOf;2911094]Hello guys, so finally I am visiting Thailand. I am quite familiar with the scenarios and have read various blogs and sex guides, however some seems outdated or date for quite years ago.
So I need fresh perspective. I also asked a friend of mine who recently visited, but some doubts still remains.
2) BJ bars.
Do girls provide DFK here before going down to business?.[/QUOTE]Dear Lord, bring this poor sinner the knowledge that the recent staff at BJ bars has been so hideous that many schlongs try to hide from the sucking.
Sounds like we have the beginnings of an interesting scenario here. Are you going to pick out a girl and ask her not to use mouthwash after her clients so you can kiss her at the end of the night? That's bonus points.
[QUOTE=TiredOf;2911094]2) BJ bars.
Do girls provide DFK here before going down to business? Can I make her topless and suck on titties maybe?[/QUOTE]In a BJ bar, the only thing the girl is entitled to do is giving you a BJ.
If you want anything on top of that, you'll have to negotiate directly with her once you're alone with her in the room (or the cubicle). Be aware that she can refuse, it will all depend on her, and tell her that you're ready to tip her for whatever you're asking (no more than 200 baht, except if you're asking to bang her).
[QUOTE=TiredOf;2911094]3) Nana plaza.
My most curious doubt.
So I read from a blog that, here you just go and sit in a couch. Look around and call the girl which you like. So she will come to you and sit beside you as long as you're paying for lady drinks. And you can 'publically' kiss as long as you want, make her titties come out and suck on it. She can give you lap dance and maybe BJ if crowd is less, you can just keep pressing her ass, tits and DFK all the time.
But when I asked this to friend, he said that it did not happen. He said maybe it used to happen in past before, but not now. Generally if you like to have BJ or nudity, you're supposed to take girl out. You can't do it there on spot. So is it true?[/QUOTE]In most gogo bars you'll be able to play with her as long as you pay her some lady drinks, but it will all depend on the girl. She doesn't have to do it, she'll do it if she wants to (kissing, touching her ass, breasts, maybe pussy).
For the BJ in the bar, only very few places offers it, like Afterschool (I think) in soi Cowboy, but you'll have to pay for it, don't expect to get that for the cost of a lady drink.
[QUOTE=TiredOf;2911094]Also some suggestions if you can. DFK, BBBJ, CIM and young girls with natural titties are my pref.[/QUOTE]Your best bet would be to try the oilies (massage places that offer fuck service) around PhromPhong BTS station, but nowadays natural titties are very few in between the clinically enhanced breasts.
[QUOTE=BrandNewMonge;2911096]I think Bangkok will be better in a lot of regards.
Apart from the luxury soapies like La Belle and Maria, you can easily score some stunners on thaisideline or fiwfans.
Just be careful and ask if they accept farangs first. I'd recommend TSG as an agency to have some fun, their girls are great and based in an upscale hotel in the Sukhumvit, Thong Long area.
Also, Thailand in May, phew, will be hot AF.[/QUOTE]Who are TSG? What does it stand for?
Regards.
[QUOTE=TiredOf;2911094]Hello guys, so finally I am visiting Thailand. I am quite familiar with the scenarios and have read various blogs and sex guides, however some seems outdated or date for quite years ago.
So I need fresh perspective. I also asked a friend of mine who recently visited, but some doubts still remains.
1) Massages.
If I go for massages, for example threesome massages, do girls hesitate to provide DFK? I frankly can not imaging good sex if DFK and BBBJ is out of table. Need inputs on that.
I remember my friend saying, he once used outcall massage, but girls there refused for DFK and only BJ with condom.
2) BJ bars.
Do girls provide DFK here before going down to business? Can I make her topless and suck on titties maybe?
3) Nana plaza.
My most curious doubt..[/QUOTE]Ok boy calm down. Bangkok is nowhere close to the wild west pussy heaven it was some decades ago. You can easily get laid but its most likely going to be a clinical rushed short time session. Maybe BBBJ if lucky, DFK if very very lucky. Definitely on your first time around you will not have the skills to get what you want. If you want the acronym list to be ticked off, just go to one of the well known Massage Parlors like Tulip and you can get the full acronym list in a threesome. But don't expect cute young girls either. Most cute young girls have too many tats, too many fake boobs and lips and too much attitude now to be interesting. I'm sure there are some gems there and long term residents may have them but as a first time short term tourist, its highly unlikely you will get that. Sorry to burst your bubble but that's the reality. If just for fucking Pattaya is a better options, still not as great as it was, but more options and better chances. Good luck.
[QUOTE=TiredOf;2911094]Hello guys, so finally I am visiting Thailand. I am quite familiar with the scenarios and have read various blogs and sex guides, however some seems outdated or date for quite years ago.
So I need fresh perspective. I also asked a friend of mine who recently visited, but some doubts still remains.
1) Massages.
If I go for massages, for example threesome massages, do girls hesitate to provide DFK? I frankly can not imaging good sex if DFK and BBBJ is out of table. Need inputs on that.
I remember my friend saying, he once used outcall massage, but girls there refused for DFK and only BJ with condom.
2) BJ bars.
Do girls provide DFK here before going down to business? Can I make her topless and suck on titties maybe?
3) Nana plaza.
My most curious doubt.
So I read from a blog that, here you just go and sit in a couch. Look around and call the girl which you like. So she will come to you and sit beside you as long as you're paying for lady drinks. And you can 'publically' kiss as long as you want, make her titties come out and suck on it. She can give you lap dance and maybe BJ if crowd is less, you can just keep pressing her ass, tits and DFK all the time.
But when I asked this to friend, he said that it did not happen. He said maybe it used to happen in past before, but not now. Generally if you like to have BJ or nudity, you're supposed to take girl out. You can't do it there on spot. So is it true?
Need some insights on it.
Also some suggestions if you can. DFK, BBBJ, CIM and young girls with natural titties are my pref.
Also wondering if there's any airport pickup service? Where girl can pick up and give you BJ till you reach your hotel. Haha LOL.
Excitement.[/QUOTE]Don't let any of these negative nancy's get you down dude, trust me. Just read my reviews on my last trip to Bangkok. You're going to have the time of your life. Take it from this old fart. I've been to hell and back, every where around the world and back again, and Bangkok is a hobbying destination that's tough to beat. You want DFK with BBBJ in a threesome, you can find it. You can find just about anything. But the key is time, and due diligence. Research and research again before you go. Reviewers like me, and some on the other forums, especially from our Asian brothers in the Japanese and Singapore forums will tell you all you need to know. The magic of google translate and all that. Granted, there are some obvious things, like you're not going to be able to just get a Nana bargirl to blow you then and there in the bar. Sure, it used to happen back in the day, but most of you weren't even born yet. And I was already middle aged then. Ha!
I recommend just going around the Phrom Phong area massage shops, get your pill on, get 3 or 4 chicks a day, after a few days you're going to find a gem, or 2 or three that'll do anything you want. There's so many of them after all, it's just a numbers game. That's why them lucky fucks that get to live in Bangkok, have no freaking idea how lucky they are, just bitching and moaning all the live long day, ohhh Bangkok floods, it's too hot, or the traffic sucks, or there's corruption, bla bla fucking bla. I'm stuck here in the sexual wasteland of the american north east, having tasted the paradise on earth that's Thailand, so no one can convince me that Thailand isn't the best, and most perfect place in the world. At this point in my life I'd sell my soul to Beelzebub Himself to be rich so I can get myself back there and never, ever, freaking leave.
The food, the healthcare, but much much more important than any of that. The girls. The chicks. Thailand is where it's at.
Apparently, the 'news' around the world has been reporting that some kind of 'heat' wave is going around South East Asia. Especially in Thailand, especially in Bangkok! First of all, bad things don't happen in Bangkok, least of all a 'heat' wave. How bad can it actually be? What's 45 degrees celcius anyway? 110 fahrenheit? Puh-lease. We get that here every summer in the sexual wasteland that's the american north east. My old contacts in South East Asia are telling me it's all blown out of proportion, just as I thought! It's freaking Thailand, it's Bangkok, it's the tropics, it's going to be hot. Is the pope catholic? I don't believe it, it's just more complaining from people who get to live in paradise. Rule number 1 fellas. If you get to live in paradise, you don't get to complain.
[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2911388]Don't let any of these negative nancy's get you down dude, trust me. Just read my reviews on my last trip to Bangkok. You're going to have the time of your life. Take it from this old fart. I've been to hell and back, every where around the world and back again, and Bangkok is a hobbying destination that's tough to beat. You want DFK with BBBJ in a threesome, you can find it. You can find just about anything. But the key is time, and due diligence. Research and research again before you go. Reviewers like me, and some on the other forums, especially from our Asian brothers in the Japanese and Singapore forums will tell you all you need to know. The magic of google translate and all that. Granted, there are some obvious things, like you're not going to be able to just get a Nana bargirl to blow you then and there in the bar. Sure, it used to happen back in the day, but most of you weren't even born yet. And I was already middle aged then. Ha!
I recommend just going around the Phrom Phong area massage shops, get your pill on, get 3 or 4 chicks a day, after a few days you're going to find a gem, or 2 or three that'll do anything you want. There's so many of them after all, it's just a numbers game. That's why them lucky fucks that get to live in Bangkok, have no freaking idea how lucky they are, just bitching and moaning all the live long day, ohhh Bangkok floods, it's too hot, or the traffic sucks, or there's corruption, bla bla fucking bla. I'm stuck here in the sexual wasteland of the american north east, having tasted the paradise on earth that's Thailand, so no one can convince me that Thailand isn't the best, and most perfect place in the world. At this point in my life I'd sell my soul to Beelzebub Himself to be rich so I can get myself back there and never, ever, freaking leave.
The food, the healthcare, but much much more important than any of that. The girls. The chicks. Thailand is where it's at.[/QUOTE]Hahahahaha hell yeah. Been thinking of doing a few weeks in Bangkok for the first time myself. How is the gym scene there? How much are hotels per night? Weekly?
[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2911388]Don't let any of these negative nancy's get you down dude, trust me. Just read my reviews on my last trip to Bangkok. You're going to have the time of your life. Take it from this old fart. I've been to hell and back, every where around the world and back again, and Bangkok is a hobbying destination that's tough to beat. You want DFK with BBBJ in a threesome, you can find it. You can find just about anything. But the key is time, and due diligence. Research and research again before you go. Reviewers like me, and some on the other forums, especially from our Asian brothers in the Japanese and Singapore forums will tell you all you need to know. The magic of google translate and all that. Granted, there are some obvious things, like you're not going to be able to just get a Nana bargirl to blow you then and there in the bar. Sure, it used to happen back in the day, but most of you weren't even born yet. And I was already middle aged then. Ha!
I recommend just going around the Phrom Phong area massage shops, get your pill on, get 3 or 4 chicks a day, after a few days you're going to find a gem, or 2 or three that'll do anything you want. There's so many of them after all, it's just a numbers game. That's why them lucky fucks that get to live in Bangkok, have no freaking idea how lucky they are, just bitching and moaning all the live long day, ohhh Bangkok floods, it's too hot, or the traffic sucks, or there's corruption, bla bla fucking bla. I'm stuck here in the sexual wasteland of the american north east, having tasted the paradise on earth that's Thailand, so no one can convince me that Thailand isn't the best, and most perfect place in the world. At this point in my life I'd sell my soul to Beelzebub Himself to be rich so I can get myself back there and never, ever, freaking leave.
The food, the healthcare, but much much more important than any of that. The girls. The chicks. Thailand is where it's at.[/QUOTE]Thanks mate good to know.
The posters scared me ngl. BBBJ is 'lucky'? Ahh damn. I mean. The place where I'm from, I don't need to be lucky to be expecting BBBJ most of the times:
[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2911389]Apparently, the 'news' around the world has been reporting that some kind of 'heat' wave is going around South East Asia. Especially in Thailand, especially in Bangkok! First of all, bad things don't happen in Bangkok, least of all a 'heat' wave. How bad can it actually be? What's 45 degrees celcius anyway? 110 fahrenheit? Puh-lease. We get that here every summer in the sexual wasteland that's the american north east. My old contacts in South East Asia are telling me it's all blown out of proportion, just as I thought! It's freaking Thailand, it's Bangkok, it's the tropics, it's going to be hot. Is the pope catholic? I don't believe it, it's just more complaining from people who get to live in paradise. Rule number 1 fellas. If you get to live in paradise, you don't get to complain.[/QUOTE]Dude I'm in Siem Reap Cambodia where it is cooler and less polluted in Bangkok and it has been over 100 degrees here for almost 3 weeks. Stop with your fantascist bullshit, its hot here. Dangerously hot. It is far hotter than even Phoenix in July, and I have lived there too.
Rule Number 1: I get to complain about anything I want. I'm headed to the pool, again.
[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2911270]Ok boy calm down. Bangkok is nowhere close to the wild west pussy heaven it was some decades ago. You can easily get laid but its most likely going to be a clinical rushed short time session. Maybe BBBJ if lucky, DFK if very very lucky. Definitely on your first time around you will not have the skills to get what you want. If you want the acronym list to be ticked off, just go to one of the well known Massage Parlors like Tulip and you can get the full acronym list in a threesome. But don't expect cute young girls either. Most cute young girls have too many tats, too many fake boobs and lips and too much attitude now to be interesting. I'm sure there are some gems there and long term residents may have them but as a first time short term tourist, its highly unlikely you will get that. Sorry to burst your bubble but that's the reality. If just for fucking Pattaya is a better options, still not as great as it was, but more options and better chances. Good luck.[/QUOTE]Do us all a favour and cancel the session if the girl insists on condom for BJ. I've yet to have that in Thailand and would laugh and immediately cancel if that was to happen.
[QUOTE=BrandNewMonge;2911096]
Just be careful and ask if they accept farangs first. I'd recommend TSG as an agency to have some fun, their girls are great and based in an upscale hotel in the Sukhumvit, Thong Long area.
[/QUOTE]No need to ask first and I have never asked. What the hell for? It will be obvious to them when you message them that you are not Thai.
TSG is no better than others, and just one of their locations is at a 3+ star hotel. Hardly upscale, but better than many others.
[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2911011]As one who has worked and visited Thailand since 1970, I would recommend just spending your free week in Bangkok. Find a hotel in the lower Sukhumvit area (Sois 2-19). There is definitely a difference between the two cities, the main one being Pattaya has a nice polluted beach. LOL Otherwise, Pattaya has nothing that BKK doesn't have. For mongering, BKK has more better-looking women available. (This isn't just my OPINION, but that of an Issan farm girl said she would be working in Pattaya because she doesn't look good enough to start in BKK. LOL) You mentioned that you wish to "experience as much as possible". If you mean outside of mongering, Bangkok offers 10 x the "experiences". From museums, restaurants, shopping, day trips, river cruises, art galleries, temples, zoo, ad. Infin.
Feel free to message me if you would like any other info. Otherwise, have a good trip. You'll have a lot of memories.
Sam.[/QUOTE]While I agree with all your points, I will disagree with your conclusion: The sex scene is Pattaya is so much smaller, especially area-wise, and easier to get around in, that for a first-time Thailand sex tourist with just a week or two to spend, Pattaya will be much more enjoyable I think. Plus it obviously has much more of a relaxed beach / holiday vibe (even if you never dip your toes in the sea) than Bangkok.
Guys,
I am really wondering where to find a real 8 or 9 girl in Thailand. Ignore the cost (relatively). Which place have the highest chance to get laid by a really pretty girl? If possible can someone else share the thoughts?
What I heard:
Tier 1, the pimp, elite.
Tier2, Maria, black caviar and other in similar price range.
Tier3, top agogo girls, like girls in rainbow4/5 or I heard king's castle is good.
Tier4, tplaces, good massage places.
Tier5, general massage places.
Is this list accurate? Accurate the rate of the prettiest girl you guys have seeneachvplac place and what is the odds?
Wondering everyone's thoughts and could be interesting to share the idea.
Was in Bangkok a couple of weeks ago.
My experience at Thermae:
Many girls are cute, but not every girl wants to go with everyone. Many quoted 3 k THB for short time (one hour- one shot). A couple were ok with long time (overnight) for 8 k or 9 k THB. The one girl I was most interested in said no BBJ and two shots for overnight at 9 k THB. Another one I talked to told me that she only sees "Japan". I had to ask her if she was Japanese because the money she is going to get from me would be the same. There were a couple of girls who wanted 4 k and a few wanted 5 k THB too for short time. These were not interested in a long time which could imply that they could rush and get out as quickly as possible. In the end, I didn't pick anyone from Thermae.
Went to Butterfly twice. Chose out of the lineup. The first one was friendly, gave BBJ without any issues but didn't like fingering much. With her limited English, she was one of the better ones. For a 90 minute package, she said they only allow one shot and if you need one more an additional 500 THB needs to be paid. Second day, I got another petite girl. This one said she just came back from her village and was apologizing for having a sensitive vagina having worked all day (this girl said she was there from 12 noon. So perhaps it is not worth going after 9 pm). No kisses and asked for 500 THB for BBJ. But, she still got drilled and I got my full 90 minutes. I forget the names of these girls though. There are some girls at butterfly I wouldn't mind seeing again.
Lots of tourists from China everywhere.
[QUOTE=Werqweq;2911469]Do us all a favour and cancel the session if the girl insists on condom for BJ. I've yet to have that in Thailand and would laugh and immediately cancel if that was to happen.[/QUOTE]I have never accepted CBJ in Thailand and never will. But I've been going there for over 20 years and know the scene well and can still find decent experiences. What I can't find are girls under 25 without large ugly tattoos or fake boobs and I just find the body modifications hideous. Now I mostly use massage places and choose the cutest youngest girl I can find among the older pros.
Ahh my bad bro, didn't that it's his first visit to BKK.
Agreed, new folks: RTFF.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2911129]Brandnew dude why would you give such shit advice to a newbie?
Luxury sopaies, when he has never been to even a rubntug? Having him sit in his hotel room and play with translated photoshopped profiles and then send him off to the wilds of On Nut when he has never even been to BKK before? TSG? Agencies? Give me a break.
New folks: RTFF.[/QUOTE]
I meant upscale relatively. It's far better than a shitty condo shared by 3 girls.
I always ask now, because I have been turned away a couple of times. But that might be because of me being half Indian.
[QUOTE=Werqweq;2911470]No need to ask first and I have never asked. What the hell for? It will be obvious to them when you message them that you are not Thai.
TSG is no better than others, and just one of their locations is at a 3+ star hotel. Hardly upscale, but better than many others.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PgReal;2911173]Who are TSG? What does it stand for?
Regards.[/QUOTE]TSG is a brothel operating out of a few hotels in the Sukhumvit / Thong Long areas. They have a profile on fiwfans, but the website is in Thai and google translate is a bit wonky because it's all in slang and the photos are photoshopped.
It might've been my luck but I found some real gems on there on my last visit to BKK.
[QUOTE=BrandNewMonge;2911553]TSG is a brothel operating out of a few hotels in the Sukhumvit / Thong Long areas. They have a profile on fiwfans, but the website is in Thai and google translate is a bit wonky because it's all in slang and the photos are photoshopped.
It might've been my luck but I found some real gems on there on my last visit to BKK.[/QUOTE]Photoshopped and gems is mutually exclusive most of the time.
[QUOTE=HAliluya;2911511]Guys,
I am really wondering where to find a real 8 or 9 girl in Thailand. Ignore the cost (relatively). Which place have the highest chance to get laid by a really pretty girl? If possible can someone else share the thoughts?
What I heard:
Tier 1, the pimp, elite.
Tier2, Maria, black caviar and other in similar price range.
Tier3, top agogo girls, like girls in rainbow4/5 or I heard king's castle is good.
Tier4, tplaces, good massage places.
Tier5, general massage places.
Is this list accurate? Accurate the rate of the prettiest girl you guys have seeneachvplac place and what is the odds?
Wondering everyone's thoughts and could be interesting to share the idea.[/QUOTE]10-20 K baht. Go to a convention or Exposition and chat up the pretties.
[QUOTE=HAliluya;2911511]Guys,
I am really wondering where to find a real 8 or 9 girl in Thailand. Ignore the cost (relatively). Which place have the highest chance to get laid by a really pretty girl? If possible can someone else share the thoughts?
What I heard:
Tier 1, the pimp, elite.
Tier2, Maria, black caviar and other in similar price range.
Tier3, top agogo girls, like girls in rainbow4/5 or I heard king's castle is good.
Tier4, tplaces, good massage places.
Tier5, general massage places.
Is this list accurate? Accurate the rate of the prettiest girl you guys have seeneachvplac place and what is the odds?
Wondering everyone's thoughts and could be interesting to share the idea.[/QUOTE]I like Rainbow s.
Per your qualifications I'd Scratch them off the List. There really aren't that many Pretties. Just a bunch of Ok girls,. Way better than Soi 6.
[QUOTE=HAliluya;2911511]Tier 1, the pimp, elite.
Tier2, Maria, black caviar and other in similar price range.
Tier3, top agogo girls, like girls in rainbow4/5 or I heard king's castle is good.
Tier4, tplaces, good massage places.
Tier5, general massage places.[/QUOTE]Thaniya Road. Thermae. Thai bars/discos. Farang Discos.
If you let us know a price range you feel comfortable with we will guide you. Many guys have come on here in the past saying money is no object then freak out that even a top gogo girl may cost them over 10,000 baht for an hour after they're done paying for drinks and the girl. 10,000 baht per 60 or 90 minutes ok for you?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2911622]Thaniya Road. Thermae. Thai bars/discos. Farang Discos.
If you let us know a price range you feel comfortable with we will guide you. Many guys have come on here in the past saying money is no object then freak out that even a top gogo girl may cost them over 10,000 baht for an hour after they're done paying for drinks and the girl. 10,000 baht per 60 or 90 minutes ok for you?[/QUOTE]Got guys here squawking over 1300 baht BJs for gods sake.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2911589]Photoshopped and gems is mutually exclusive most of the time.[/QUOTE]Agreed, but I did a lot of research before going down there, added multiple line contacts, shortlisted all profiles that I wanted to check out.
And some of these girls have to photoshop their faces because they have main jobs as well. Found a legit university chick on there, was on the expensive side but definitely worth it. Went to her for 7 days straight, first session of the day. Apparently, she was low on tuition and decided to escort on the side to earn a bit of cash.
Much better than Thermae or street freelancers.
But I am relatively new at this, so my perspective might be skewed.
[QUOTE=BrandNewMonge;2911553]TSG is a brothel operating out of a few hotels in the Sukhumvit / Thong Long areas. They have a profile on fiwfans, but the website is in Thai and google translate is a bit wonky because it's all in slang and the photos are photoshopped.
It might've been my luck but I found some real gems on there on my last visit to BKK.[/QUOTE]The site is [URL]tsgsideline.com[/URL] - I guess.
"Brothel out of a few hotels". What does that mean?
Most of the sideline girls operate from same hotel, last trip I pinged 5-6 girls that were in Sukhumvit 55 (on sideline) and they were all in a couple of same hotels. Shared location.
[QUOTE=BHawk;2911718]The site is [URL]tsgsideline.com[/URL] - I guess.
"Brothel out of a few hotels". What does that mean?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MickeyDuck1208;2911719]Most of the sideline girls operate from same hotel, last trip I pinged 5-6 girls that were in Sukhumvit 55 (on sideline) and they were all in a couple of same hotels. Shared location.[/QUOTE]So, it's incall to the hotel they are staying? Or only outcall? Or both?
They don't do outcall, you have to go to the hotel they are in.
[QUOTE=BHawk;2911720]So, it's incall to the hotel they are staying? Or only outcall? Or both?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2911622]Thaniya Road.[/QUOTE]Never been there, what am I missing?
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2911732]Never been there, what am I missing?[/QUOTE]OP said he wants the best looking girls and price is not a deterrent as he listed off Pimp and the top BKK soapies. That is not how most of us including myself hobby. If you have deep pockets Thaniya Road needs to be included on your list. There are pretty girls there as long as the farm girl Isan look is not your thing.
Caveat Emptor - I haven't been to Thaniya Road for over a year now. Assuming there are still lots of YouTube videos you can search. Prefer simple point and shoot Thermae for 2500-3000 baht.
Pro tip - Like gogo bars, the best ones generally don't sit outside.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2911622]Thaniya Road. Thermae. Thai bars/discos. Farang Discos.
If you let us know a price range you feel comfortable with we will guide you. Many guys have come on here in the past saying money is no object then freak out that even a top gogo girl may cost them over 10,000 baht for an hour after they're done paying for drinks and the girl. 10,000 baht per 60 or 90 minutes ok for you?[/QUOTE]Yeah, I think 10.000 baht for 60-90 minute would work. Though I do prefer a longger time stay for a higher price, as long as it is not rushed. But idk, my idea is I am willing to pay that much or even more for a girl that is really going to shock me to an extend. Just not willing to pay first tier class ticket for a second tier seat, that feels unworthy (maybe what I wished f never existed idk.).
You seems like a really experienced guy, so I do wonder what is like the actual total cost of getting a girl in these places? I know the general offers, but I assume there are so much more need to be spent during the process.
Like you mentioned a gogo girl for 10 for baht for a short time seems kind of shocking to me, unless that includes all the barfine and lady drink and stuff. Thought it is like 3000-4000, and plus bar fine and lady drink, it would end up to like 5000-6000.
I know the girl from Pimp is like real expensive, 20 k for like long time plus couple thousand for bar fine and cost of drinks and lady and stuff, could shoot a LT to like 30 k+. But I wonder if the girl is really that outstanding. Or I can just get similar talents somewhere else with lower costs.
P.S., anyone have the experience with pandas or Hollywood in Pattaya? How is the workiis girl there? Any thoughts?
[QUOTE=HAliluya;2911823]Yeah, I think 10.000 baht for 60-90 minute would work. Though I do prefer a longger time stay for a higher price, as long as it is not rushed. But idk, my idea is I am willing to pay that much or even more for a girl that is really going to shock me to an extend. Just not willing to pay first tier class ticket for a second tier seat, that feels unworthy (maybe what I wished f never existed idk.).
You seems like a really experienced guy, so I do wonder what is like the actual total cost of getting a girl in these places? I know the general offers, but I assume there are so much more need to be spent during the process.
Like you mentioned a gogo girl for 10 for baht for a short time seems kind of shocking to me, unless that includes all the barfine and lady drink and stuff. Thought it is like 3000-4000, and plus bar fine and lady drink, it would end up to like 5000-6000.
I know the girl from Pimp is like real expensive, 20 k for like long time plus couple thousand for bar fine and cost of drinks and lady and stuff, could shoot a LT to like 30 k+. But I wonder if the girl is really that outstanding. Or I can just get similar talents somewhere else with lower costs.
P.S., anyone have the experience with pandas or Hollywood in Pattaya? How is the workiis girl there? Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]I have a tiny bit of experience in BKK and Pattaya but my game isn't your game. I am fairly frugal and don't do Pimp, super high end soapies and rarely will I go to karaoke on Thaniya Road. My days of spending 10,000 baht per night ended in 2015 when I moved to Pattaya.
Gogo girls. Pricing is pretty standard. 3000ST 5000 LT to the girl. Barfine to the bar will range 1000-2000 with BF being more expensive in Pattaya. That's the cheap part. However, for top end girls for non regulars some will ask you to buy them 20-40 drinks plus more drinks for their friends to make sure you are worthy. At 200+ baht per drink this can be 10,000 baht above the cost for the girl. Same 10,000 you mentioned you'd pay for drinks at Pimp. Problem is many guys go gaga over the "TOP" girl they have their eyes set on will pay this for their "dream" date. Now if you want only the top 10% and not top 1% of girls in a top gogo bar then your numbers are accurate. Remember to keep a poker face with these girls. If they see you drool you will pay for it.
Never been to Club Panda. As for Hollywood, most girls who go there are already tied up with their Korean / Japanese date. Fine getting numbers if you live there but given you have a couple of days it's not the place I would even consider trying to get my girl.
[QUOTE=BrandNewMonge;2911702]Agreed, but I did a lot of research before going down there, added multiple line contacts, shortlisted all profiles that I wanted to check out.
And some of these girls have to photoshop their faces because they have main jobs as well. Found a legit university chick on there, was on the expensive side but definitely worth it. Went to her for 7 days straight, first session of the day. Apparently, she was low on tuition and decided to escort on the side to earn a bit of cash.
Much better than Thermae or street freelancers.
But I am relatively new at this, so my perspective might be skewed.[/QUOTE]Hope you weren't sitting in your hotel room doing all your research instead of having fun in thailand. As someone who is old at this, there's a hell of a lot more to do in Thailand then sit in a hotel room surfing the net.
I guarantee you that you can get the equivalent to any girl on the net by walking into any go-go bar or terme.
[QUOTE=HAliluya;2911823]
Like you mentioned a gogo girl for 10 for baht for a short time seems kind of shocking to me, unless that includes all the barfine and lady drink and stuff. Thought it is like 3000-4000, and plus bar fine and lady drink, it would end up to like 5000-6000.
I know the girl from Pimp is like real expensive, 20 k for like long time plus couple thousand for bar fine and cost of drinks and lady and stuff, could shoot a LT to like 30 k+. But I wonder if the girl is really that outstanding. Or I can just get similar talents somewhere else with lower costs.
?[/QUOTE]Already starting to weasel your way out of the 20,000 Baht scene I see.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2911864]
I guarantee you that you can get the equivalent to any girl on the net by walking into any go-go bar or terme.[/QUOTE]So the reverse is also true: you can get the equivalent to any girl in a go-go bar or termae on the net.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;2911910]So the reverse is also true: you can get the equivalent to any girl in a go-go bar or termae on the net.[/QUOTE]Of course. You can buy anything, anywhere.
Its the logistics.
You going to sit in your hotel room for hours picking the "right one" where all the pics are fotoshopped and the reviews are badly translated and fake to boot, then after a few hours of that, schlep all the way from your hotel to some backwoods Soi to find she maybe doesn't look likle that, but if I throw the dice enough maybe Ill get a good one.
Meanwhile, its my first trip to Bangkok and instead of checking stuff out all over this marvelous city and even going civvy hunting, I sat in a hotel room just to go down Soi 55 for a 35 year old 19 year old, or.
Damn, looky looky I'm righ down the street from fun, let me put these packages away, walk down here to Nana and BF a hottie, then when you are done with go right to Thermae for another, then finish off with a Russian from Mixx, then sleep till noon and do it all over agin.
Up to you. I try to stay on Soi 10, perfect for the big 3.
Went to cherry massage in the evening saw grace but someone else just took her and seen the rest and choose first, she was young looking cute and giving me the smile so I thought atleast I will get better attitude I was not wrong. I choose nuru for 2 hours 2800 THB, its only nuru for the first shot.
She took me up to the room got the toolkit and we got nude and took a bath then the mat gets cleaned and then she applies nuru gel on me and her body, oh it was cold and she started massaging with her boobs it was first time experience of nuru it was nice but little bigger boobs would have allowed me to enjoy nuru much better (she has cute face small boobs and nice and plumpy but not so big ass and young looking she said she is 25) . After massage on the back she turned me around and did the masssage in the front with her boobs on my chest it was crazy for me (coming from India where everything needs to be done under the fear that someone might come knocking down the door and with attitude problems from girls) . Then she tries to do the bbj I asked to do CBJ then she does it in wot on the mat with the gel still on my body it was very very good if you can hold the friction with the mat, I never experienced this before the nuru gel was reducing the friction completely and the air mattress was also helping in reducing the friction which made me last for good 15-20 minutes.
After that we took bath and to clear the gel. Then we started talking on the bed she was supposed to do the massage but instead she just gave me the head massage while I was sleeping naked on her lap that was really nice. Then I wasn't sure if I wanted another round or not. Then during little chit chat I said I can massage her then I started slightly massaging her and started licking her ear and back of the ear and started the touching her clit which turned her on and I just made it more intense for her. She got turned on so much she started squirting my god that was my first time seeing someone squirt she squirted for long time probably 10-12 minutes then I took the condom and did her in missionary and doggy it was awesome.
The squirting part made me feel the pse for the first time. It felt genuine.
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2911732]Never been there, what am I missing?[/QUOTE]Thaniya road is commonly known as 'little Japan' isn't it? I've haven't bothered going because for mongering short trips to BKK it's also quite far from Nana, soi cowboy area, like 7 km or something. Not worth the effort in the heat I think, unless you are on a longer stay or bored with the same old scene.
Tried [URL]https://massagerepublic.com/female-escorts-in-bangkok/outcall-magichand-bkk[/URL] for a prostate massage for the first time. I messaged her she shared the price 2000 for 60 minutes and 2300 for 90 minutes I said 90 minutes and then she shared her location near to asok bts. But it was damn hot in the afternoon and in hindsight I should have tried it in evening or night or took a taxi. It was quite a walk from bts in hot sun. She gave the room number I said it to security person he guided me till the elevator. Then she comes and opens the door in I go and see a weird setup she stays there and also gives massage there (she had a shop before covid but closed it seems and planning to open new one in silom for prostate) .
She bathed me the room was airconditioned and had a 1 bedroom divided by curtain one section with sofa and massage bed with a hole cutout for access from the bottom. Then she made me lie down on the bed and did small massage on legs and then started with doing hand job then we started talking about lot of things in between she likes to chat a lot and speak manageable english and was asking if I want prostate or not and she has many toys do I have any preference. As its the first time I avoided the toys but still she used a bullet vibrator on my balls and slightly over the dick. She has strap-on an bunch of other toys.
I forgot to tell she might in her late 30's she has a kid but despite all of that she looks good to my eyes not bad signs of age are little bit there but not much that you get turned off. She then after a little bit of HJ proceeds to put on a doctors glove and started to begin the prostate I was scared and excited at the same time. She entered the anal very slowly and smoothly she use a lube which was smooth, even though there was no pain there was the same feeling as I am about shit myself lightly. Then she isn't massaging the prostate really she is doing something like pressing the prostate slowly which isn't causing any trouble then she goes on to do the HJ and the control the orgasm with prostate at the same time. Man that was the highest form of high I ever got while I am close to orgasm I know I can't take it for more time until unless my hands are tied (I usuallly don't like BDSM stuff it doesn't turn me on) if not I would be pushing her stronger I know. I was shaking little bit I was trying to control the body jitter it was crazy. I couldn't take that sensation I asked her to stop it she stopped and continued to do the HJ which became intense and I ejaculated. Then the second session was only HJ as I said I couldn't take prostate. But I wish I could take it, it was so pleasureful I can't stop thinking about it. May be I need more training or else need to be tied up.
[QUOTE=PgReal;2911946]Thaniya road is commonly known as 'little Japan' isn't it? I've haven't bothered going because for mongering short trips to BKK it's also quite far from Nana, soi cowboy area, like 7 km or something. Not worth the effort in the heat I think, unless you are on a longer stay or bored with the same old scene.[/QUOTE]The demise of Patpong is another reason I stopped swinging by Thaniya Road. When Patpong gogo bars were rocking pre-COVID it was worth the MRT ride (quicker than taxi in traffic) to get to Silom. Smokin Pug for amazing BBQ (now moved to Lumphini), Thaniya, then Patpong gogo bars made a fun night for me in the past.
I've skipped Cowboy my last 3 trips. Has it improved this past year?
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2911864]Hope you weren't sitting in your hotel room doing all your research instead of having fun in thailand. As someone who is old at this, there's a hell of a lot more to do in Thailand then sit in a hotel room surfing the net.
I guarantee you that you can get the equivalent to any girl on the net by walking into any go-go bar or terme.[/QUOTE]This was all pre landing in Thailand. I am a compulsive planner, so that works for me. And yeah, Thailand is an amazing country, I explored and backpacked for almost three weeks before spending the last week in BKK mongering.
[QUOTE=PgReal;2911946]Thaniya road is commonly known as 'little Japan' isn't it? I've haven't bothered going because for mongering short trips to BKK it's also quite far from Nana, soi cowboy area, like 7 km or something. Not worth the effort in the heat I think, unless you are on a longer stay or bored with the same old scene.[/QUOTE]I looked at a few recent youtube videos and they all call it Japanese road. Looks like there are plenty of decent looking girls there, but I wonder how the system works. Will they go back to your hotel across town, or are there short time rooms nearby.
I should be back in Bangkok mid-May so may give it a visit one night.
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2911975]I looked at a few recent youtube videos and they all call it Japanese road. Looks like there are plenty of decent looking girls there, but I wonder how the system works. Will they go back to your hotel across town, or are there short time rooms nearby.
I should be back in Bangkok mid-May so may give it a visit one night.[/QUOTE]I have lived here for 12 years and have never taken a girl from a Thaniya Road karaoke club or had a session with her somewhere on the premises.
The main reasons for that are I have certainly been approached and flagged over by mamasans outside some of the clubs and invited to "go inside" but I have yet to be inspired by any description of what I can expect to get in terms of a sexual experience of any kind with a girl there.
Moreover, in all these years I have not yet read or heard a personal testimonial from a fellow punter of anyone else getting anything worth mentioning of a sexual experience with any of those girls. For any amount of money.
No punter has ever claimed his days of bothering with the "uglies" in Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy or even Patpong gogo bars are over now that their world was rocked by the great sex they had with one of those supposedly 8's, 9's, or 10's at the karaoke clubs on Thaniya Road. Not once. And not for any amount of money.
Now, in my case, anything less than Real Sex / DFK, BBBJ +BBFSCIP or at leastt BBBJCIM for not one baht more than 5,000 baht with a true 8, 9, or 10 at those clubs would most definitely be a colossal waste of my time and money. But I have not even read or heard a testimonial from someone who only got covered everything from a girl there so fine that it was worth a repeat.
I don't need to hear myself or anyone else other than a resurrected Frank Sinatra himself sing "My Way" or "New York, New York" that badly.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2911979]I have lived here for 12 years and have never taken a girl from a Thaniya Road karaoke club or had a session with her somewhere on the premises.
The main reasons for that are I have certainly been approached and flagged over by mamasans outside some of the clubs and invited to "go inside" but I have yet to be inspired by any description of what I can expect to get in terms of a sexual experience of any kind with a girl there.
Moreover, in all these years I have not yet read or heard a personal testimonial from a fellow punter of anyone else getting anything worth mentioning of a sexual experience with any of those girls. For any amount of money.
No punter has ever claimed his days of bothering with the "uglies" in Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy or even Patpong gogo bars are over now that their world was rocked by the great sex they had with one of those supposedly 8's, 9's, or 10's at the karaoke clubs on Thaniya Road. Not once. And not for any amount of money..[/QUOTE]I bow before your wisdom, as should others.
[QUOTE=HAliluya;2910754]Thinking of going to the pimp along, wondering if it is worthy. What should I expect? What I am allow to do there? Should I go for a small private room? Meanwhile, how much do I expect to spend with two girls? Saw the price on their website and I wonder how much would it be flexible. Do I expected to pay like 50% extra than what they mentioned? Newbie need a bit of help here.[/QUOTE]I think bringing 50% more than what you think you might spend is a good idea. Apart from the drinks and the "lady drinks", they also charge you extra if they take their tops off. Also, tipping goes a long way in helping them warm up to you.
I would suggest getting a private room because all the wild times I've had were in the rooms. You can do pretty much anything in the rooms except for oral / intercourse. I have had some friends who did get BJs in the toilet but YMMW. Outside is a much more tame experience.
Also, don't expect that you can bring them home. Some of them will go home with you, but the barfines they quote and the price for 1 shot is honestly insane. Unless you have very deep pockets or are super handsome / charming, you'd be better off at places like Nana. The best I've ever done was get them to come hang out in the afternoon and evenings for food and dinner.
[QUOTE=FakeIt;2910834]Expect nothing but a big bill.
I went there recently. I had a good budget and high hopes but left pretty deflated. It's a cultural thing maybe. I guess there are guys who like to pay pretty women to sit with them while they sip on drinks and joke around with their friends. If you are with a group and want to take one of the rooms for a PG13 karaoke party, there is plenty of that on offer. I find that whole scene a bit adolescent. I went solo and sat in the lounge. Plenty of good looking women and the stage show in entertaining (a little). My solo visit with dinner, a bottle of booze and 2-3 hours of a bikini clad girl next to me cost 20 K. I could have spent more to see if I could get more but, honestly, why bother when there are sooooo many other options at a fraction of this price. I cut my losses and left. Personally I have no use for a place like this. And adjudging by the emptiness of the place on a Friday night, I don't think many others do either.[/QUOTE]It's definitely a cultural thing. In a lot of Southeast Asian countries going to these types of places is where business gets done. People usually take their suppliers or clients they're trying to impress to these places and vice versa. It also serves as a "test" to see how you handle yourself when you're drunk, if you're the loud and boisterous type with loose lips, or if you can keep your cool even when you're hammered.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2911979]No punter has ever claimed his days of bothering with the "uglies" in Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy or even Patpong gogo bars are over now that their world was rocked by the great sex they had with one of those supposedly 8's, 9's, or 10's at the karaoke clubs on Thaniya Road. Not once. And not for any amount of money.[/QUOTE]Ok, so think I'll give Thaniya Road a miss.
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2912221]Ok, so think I'll give Thaniya Road a miss.[/QUOTE]Bear in mind, I have simply not been inspired or encouraged by anything I have read here or heard from fellow punters or the mamasans outside those karaoke clubs to suggest there is even dreary basic fare P4 P happening with any of the girls who work in those clubs.
But I might have been missing the best deal in all of Thailand by not "come inside, buy a drink. " I have always had something more sure fire and rewarding on my schedule whenever I have happened to pass by. Which is why I would love to read a detailed Field Report from someone who has experienced the whole program there.
After being flagged over and approached by one of the mamasans outside next to her dozens of girls sitting on display a few times, I finally broke down and decided to discretely ask her the one question that would completely change my mind about "come inside, buy a drink"; I asked her if it was possible to have Real Sex / No Condom Sex with any of the girls. She snapped back, "Do you want to die of HIV"?
Uh, got it. You win, mama. Not a mindset or environment I care to indulge. However, that same mamasan approached me a week or two later as I was passing by, still pestering me to "come inside, buy a drink. " For whatever that is worth.
I have been visiting BKK for at least 15 years (but never for more than 10 days at a time). I am not an expert, but I certainly have a few places that I like to go to find the girls. I prefer the freelancers, by the way, and typically find most of my dates on ThaiFriendly. I like my girls "open minded" (which means that if I feel like going BB, they don't complain, or if I want a little backdoor action, they are agreeable), skinny and less than 30 years of age.
While BKK is different than it was in 2010, I have to say that it is still an amazing place to find beautiful women for sex. By the time I had arrived, Soi Cowboy was already on an obvious downward slide, but Nana still has plenty of options and there are still dozens of small massage places where gems can be found. Of course, the big soapies are still fun (although a little more hit or miss than the old days) and things are more expensive. But things are more expensive everywhere and for everything.
I used to really like to spend several nights in a week at a nightclub, searching for freelance talent. I particularly liked Insanity, which is now closed due to some COVID violation (supposedly banned for 5 years, but I doubt the owners will ever reopen the club). The place was filled with freelancers, some of whom were quite charming. I have read about The Pimp here, and it strikes me as a complete waste of time (and money).
Can someone share with the rest of us the good nightclubs and discos that still exist out there. By "good", I mean that there should be attractive girls available for taking back to the hotel.
THANKS!
[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2912263]I have been visiting BKK for at least 15 years (but never for more than 10 days at a time). I am not an expert, but I certainly have a few places that I like to go to find the girls. I prefer the freelancers, by the way, and typically find most of my dates on ThaiFriendly. I like my girls "open minded" (which means that if I feel like going BB, they don't complain, or if I want a little backdoor action, they are agreeable), skinny and less than 30 years of age.
While BKK is different than it was in 2010, I have to say that it is still an amazing place to find beautiful women for sex. By the time I had arrived, Soi Cowboy was already on an obvious downward slide, but Nana still has plenty of options and there are still dozens of small massage places where gems can be found. Of course, the big soapies are still fun (although a little more hit or miss than the old days) and things are more expensive. But things are more expensive everywhere and for everything.
I used to really like to spend several nights in a week at a nightclub, searching for freelance talent. I particularly liked Insanity, which is now closed due to some COVID violation (supposedly banned for 5 years, but I doubt the owners will ever reopen the club). The place was filled with freelancers, some of whom were quite charming. I have read about The Pimp here, and it strikes me as a complete waste of time (and money).
Can someone share with the rest of us the good nightclubs and discos that still exist out there. By "good", I mean that there should be attractive girls available for taking back to the hotel.
THANKS![/QUOTE]The only reports we have had, which you would have known and not needed to ask if you would have read back a few pages, is that there are Russians or fake Russians in Mixx.
Who is in BKK and wants to meet for a beer and go punting?
I'm staying off Sukhumvit Soi 26.
But obviously can meet wherever. Qq.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2912357]The only reports we have had, which you would have known and not needed to ask if you would have read back a few pages, is that there are Russians or fake Russians in Mixx.[/QUOTE]I haven't been to Mixx since Jan 2020 and the result was not great. I left with a vietnamese MILF who was totally uninspiring. There were no cute Russians nor any available Thais, etc. I don't drink much and without buying a bottle, it was impossible to get into the action. I am glad there is more action, but I didn't bother to check out Mixx in February when I was in BKK. The reports on the ISG in recent months were not very informative. It would be nice to know how many P4 P girls there were, and how what percentage were Russian. In the distant past, there were few working girls before midnight.
I used to like Spasso, but when I went in February, it looked permanently closed (the doors were locked and tbe tables and chairs were gone).
I guess I will try Mixx again. Is there any action before midnight?
[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2913138]I haven't been to Mixx since Jan 2020 and the result was not great. I left with a vietnamese MILF who was totally uninspiring. There were no cute Russians nor any available Thais, etc. I don't drink much and without buying a bottle, it was impossible to get into the action. I am glad there is more action, but I didn't bother to check out Mixx in February when I was in BKK. The reports on the ISG in recent months were not very informative. It would be nice to know how many P4 P girls there were, and how what percentage were Russian. In the distant past, there were few working girls before midnight.
I used to like Spasso, but when I went in February, it looked permanently closed (the doors were locked and tbe tables and chairs were gone).
I guess I will try Mixx again. Is there any action before midnight?[/QUOTE]I haven't been in Mixx since before Wuflu. It was closed for quite some time and simply because the lack of reports, lack of time, lack of initiative, and whatever I haven't been back since.
I almost went a few weeks ago but got distracted by two Gogo girls gobbling each other, better two in the bed than an if come.
But as you see, Dude here a few pages back pulled a semi Russkie out of there.
I always had luck there, and would love to check it out on my next trip in, but I'm going to an FKK too so no sense overloading with slinky Ivanas, Turkic as they may be. But I have a trip in in August and would love to hear more intelligence.
There was never any action there before midnight.
You should remember that Vietnamese girls may look good, but they are thieves, scammers and ice cold working girls, especially in Thailand. I would NEVER pick up a Viet in a club, and the last ime I picked one up on the street, I ended up pulling my money out of her panties in front of the desk at the old Nana shortime hotel. Boy she could suck though.
Dude here is your chance for ISG greatness: The first REAL report out of Mixx in YEARS. You can be a pioneer of perversion! Go, wallow, slobber and then report!
[QUOTE=AlphaRomeoJuli;2911939]Went to cherry massage in the evening saw grace but someone else just took her and seen the rest and choose first, she was young looking cute and giving me the smile so I thought atleast I will get better attitude I was not wrong. I choose nuru for 2 hours 2800 THB, its only nuru for the first shot.
She took me up to the room got the toolkit and we got nude and took a bath then the mat gets cleaned and then she applies nuru gel on me and her body, oh it was cold and she started massaging with her boobs it was first time experience of nuru it was nice but little bigger boobs would have allowed me to enjoy nuru much better (she has cute face small boobs and nice and plumpy but not so big ass and young looking she said she is 25) . After massage on the back she turned me around and did the masssage in the front with her boobs on my chest it was crazy for me (coming from India where everything needs to be done under the fear that someone might come knocking down the door and with attitude problems from girls) . Then she tries to do the bbj I asked to do CBJ then she does it in wot on the mat with the gel still on my body it was very very good if you can hold the friction with the mat, I never experienced this before the nuru gel was reducing the friction completely and the air mattress was also helping in reducing the friction which made me last for good 15-20 minutes.
After that we took bath and to clear the gel. Then we started talking on the bed she was supposed to do the massage but instead she just gave me the head massage while I was sleeping naked on her lap that was really nice. Then I wasn't sure if I wanted another round or not..[/QUOTE]Hi at AlphaRomeoJuli, would you remember the name of the lady you picked at Cherry massage as I'd like to see a squirter. Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=David9500;2913222]Hi at AlphaRomeoJuli, would you remember the name of the lady you picked at Cherry massage as I'd like to see a squirter. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]David, david, david.
Whens your trip? Two months? Sure she will be there? Sure Cherrys will be there? Sure that hes tellinbg the truth about her squirting? If he is, can you make her squirt?
IMportant points for Newbies: 250,000 plus working girls in Bangkok, get out there and find one instead of asking some unkown dude on the net.
[QUOTE=David9500;2913222]Hi at AlphaRomeoJuli, would you remember the name of the lady you picked at Cherry massage as I'd like to see a squirter. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Name might be confusing I should have used quotes it's "first" from cherry.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2913348]David, david, david.
Whens your trip? Two months? Sure she will be there? Sure Cherrys will be there? Sure that hes tellinbg the truth about her squirting? If he is, can you make her squirt?
IMportant points for Newbies: 250,000 plus working girls in Bangkok, get out there and find one instead of asking some unkown dude on the net.[/QUOTE]I agree squirting is little different, it can't be done mechanically whenever they want. Its little tricky. Even if I want to get the same experience I am not sure that can happen again with the same girl.
Anyone knows if Natt Chanapa or Monica Jett are available for escort?
They'd be successful.
Anyone had any experience with penthouse? Heard they reopened, and looks kind of cool, wonder how it works? As karaoke parlor + kparleo. What do people pay the girl to do? Like both?
Meanwhile speaking of karaoke, anyone had experience with DDsrinagarindr? Heard the performance there are like wild.
I decided some time ago to experience different types of ladies. Last visit I hooked up with a very nice obese woman, for free. That was quite something. Don't wish to repeat.
This visit, which has just ended, I found a freelancer on TF who is deaf. Quite petite, a spinner you might call her, 29 year old Was interesting to hear the noises she made. Paid 1500 plus Grab bike.
[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;2914270]I decided some time ago to experience different types of ladies. Last visit I hooked up with a very nice obese woman, for free. That was quite something. Don't wish to repeat.
This visit, which has just ended, I found a freelancer on TF who is deaf. Quite petite, a spinner you might call her, 29 year old Was interesting to hear the noises she made. Paid 1500 plus Grab bike.[/QUOTE]I experiences this in 2017 on my first trip to Thailand. It was an interesting experience and I didn't know she was deaf until ahe arrived as she didn't divulge it on TF. It was a fun experience.
[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2911518]I have never accepted CBJ in Thailand and never will. But I've been going there for over 20 years and know the scene well and can still find decent experiences. What I can't find are girls under 25 without large ugly tattoos or fake boobs and I just find the body modifications hideous. Now I mostly use massage places and choose the cutest youngest girl I can find among the older pros.[/QUOTE]Ok, while Nyezhov swears of fiwfans, if you have free time in the day and don't mind doing a bit of sightseeing, with or without a good outcome, fiwfans is pretty good for that.
Search by age (e.g. , 18-23), and most girls you meet will indeed be less than 25. Profiles also lists if she has natural breasts or not. Breasts always accurate in my experience, and can't remember seeing much tattoos. Certainly nothing of the type bargirls have.
Biggest problem is like Nyezhow says, all the photoshopping. Sometimes I was pleasantly surprised by who opened the door, but more often than not, it was a smaller or bigger disappointment. Some were of the type I should have walked away after having had a look at her, as the photoshopping was toooo execissive and I don't want to support that kind of business. Had I been paying go-go prices, I would have walked a few times, but I'm not yet at the age / fitness where I need to conserve my sperm for more worthy wenches later in the evening, so figured, what the heck, for 1200-1500 baht, lets see what happens. Thai girls, the non-bar girl variety, are pretty nice imo anyway.
Only had one genuinely bad experience, where the girl was photoshopped up at least four levels, some maid who obviously was suspecting something was going on came to bang on the door 3-4 times during the 40 minutes I were there, with the girl each time yelling at her to fuck off, and the whole thing happening in the girl's own distractingly messy room. A few times I had to chuckle to myself.
For an experienced hand like you, if you're in BKK on holiday and thus not having much to do, I'd give it a go. If nothing else than for a new experience. After a few visits you'll know if it's a thing for you or not.
I viewed it as a pleasant way to spend my lunch hour and an interesting experience. Get to see new parts of Bangkok too. ;-) Will be repeating this summer.
[QUOTE=Werqweq;2914306]Ok, while Nyezhov swears of fiwfans, if you have free time in the day and don't mind doing a bit of sightseeing, with or without a good outcome, fiwfans is pretty good for that.
[/QUOTE]Thanks. I tend to stay away from the online scene as to me shopping is as much fun as the fucking. I get a kick out of a line up where I get to choose the girl (s) or even a warm up drink at a bar. I get plenty of online in Singapore, for less than 100 USD (3500 B) there are plenty of Thai girls to choose from. However I find the service consistency in good MP in BKK along with the choosing the best for me. I am however getting tired of the hard core commercial nature of most Thai girls these days. Especially the younger ones. There is no sweetness left. Its sad. I found Indo girls far sweeter, even in hardcore brothels. At my age now and after fucking hundreds and hundreds of girls, it takes more than just an available mouth and pussy to keep me interested these days.
[QUOTE=Werqweq;2914306]Ok, while Nyezhov swears of fiwfans, if you have free time in the day and don't mind doing a bit of sightseeing, with or without a good outcome, fiwfans is pretty good for that.
Search by age (e.g. , 18-23), and most girls you meet will indeed be less than 25. Profiles also lists if she has natural breasts or not. Breasts always accurate in my experience, and can't remember seeing much tattoos. Certainly nothing of the type bargirls have.
Biggest problem is like Nyezhow says, all the photoshopping. Sometimes I was pleasantly surprised by who opened the door, but more often than not, it was a smaller or bigger disappointment. Some were of the type I should have walked away after having had a look at her, as the photoshopping was toooo execissive and I don't want to support that kind of business. Had I been paying go-go prices, I would have walked a few times, but I'm not yet at the age / fitness where I need to conserve my sperm for more worthy wenches later in the evening, so figured, what the heck, for 1200-1500 baht, lets see what happens. Thai girls, the non-bar girl variety, are pretty nice imo anyway.
Only had one genuinely bad experience, where the girl was photoshopped up at least four levels, some maid who obviously was suspecting something was going on came to bang on the door 3-4 times during the 40 minutes I were there, with the girl each time yelling at her to fuck off, and the whole thing happening in the girl's own distractingly messy room. A few times I had to chuckle to myself.
For an experienced hand like you, if you're in BKK on holiday and thus not having much to do, I'd give it a go. If nothing else than for a new experience. After a few visits you'll know if it's a thing for you or not.
I viewed it as a pleasant way to spend my lunch hour and an interesting experience. Get to see new parts of Bangkok too. ;-) Will be repeating this summer.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Werqweq;2914306]Ok, while Nyezhov swears of fiwfans, if you have free time in the day and don't mind doing a bit of sightseeing, with or without a good outcome, fiwfans is pretty good for that.
Search by age (e.g. , 18-23), and most girls you meet will indeed be less than 25. Profiles also lists if she has natural breasts or not. Breasts always accurate in my experience, and can't remember seeing much tattoos. Certainly nothing of the type bargirls have.
Biggest problem is like Nyezhow says, all the photoshopping. Sometimes I was pleasantly surprised by who opened the door, but more often than not, it was a smaller or bigger disappointment. Some were of the type I should have walked away after having had a look at her, as the photoshopping was toooo execissive and I don't want to support that kind of business. Had I been paying go-go prices, I would have walked a few times, but I'm not yet at the age / fitness where I need to conserve my sperm for more worthy wenches later in the evening, so figured, what the heck, for 1200-1500 baht, lets see what happens. Thai girls, the non-bar girl variety, are pretty nice imo anyway.
Only had one genuinely bad experience, where the girl was photoshopped up at least four levels, some maid who obviously was suspecting something was going on came to bang on the door 3-4 times during the 40 minutes I were there, with the girl each time yelling at her to fuck off, and the whole thing happening in the girl's own distractingly messy room. A few times I had to chuckle to myself.
For an experienced hand like you, if you're in BKK on holiday and thus not having much to do, I'd give it a go. If nothing else than for a new experience. After a few visits you'll know if it's a thing for you or not.
I viewed it as a pleasant way to spend my lunch hour and an interesting experience. Get to see new parts of Bangkok too. ;-) Will be repeating this summer.[/QUOTE]Agree and disagree. I'm not against FIW fans, I'm against new visitors or inexperienced dudes concentrating on it because they think its better, and cheaper, of course. You said it best, sightseeing and photoshopping.
I've used FIw Fans when sitting in my condo bored looking at pea soup air. Its nothing for me to take a trip to any of these outlying areas (nothanburi, pak kret, chaeng wattana, on nut, Soi 55, etc) because I know where I'm going. Amd how to get there.
But for a new guy? Dude never saw a flush toilet before OR a hooker and is staying in the Monger Ghetto where thousands of girls are available and he should sit in his hotel and scroll through machine translated Thai and phtoshop pictures? Then fall in love with some picture of a girl in Rangsit and next thing he knows, he traveled an hour plus there and back by taxi and probably gets hustled by a cabbie to mash some 30 year old 18 year old? Because hes wants to save $10? Don't think some dude isn't twisting his chicken in a room somewhere, damn she's hot, OMG she's THE ONE, I must have her, where is this Bang Na place?
Yes, Virginia, FIW fans works AS AN ADJUNCT for full and part time residents who know rhe scene. But Rookies, Shy Guys, Virgins, Clueless etc: Get your feel on the ground first, you have limited time, right? Got a good chunk of change invested, ja?. Maximize your ultimate Thailand enjoyment by figuring out how stuff works before you toss yourself into the HARDEST cesspool of mongering. Bangkok is HUGE and FIW fans is for Thai folks and they don't all live in Watthana.
And because folks will say, oh well there are girls in Asoke that are close (true) do you really want to sit there in your hotel room sorting through all of those listings again, with the photoshopped issue.
Ill put it this way: if any of you have a basic question that we see so often like "Hello Dears, how do you pay a bar fine? Then you arent ready for FIW. If you can't tell me where Intharama is and how to get there, without looking it up, then you arent ready. If its your first airplane flight, you arent ready. If you have never banged one of EACH of the main sources: massage girls, BJ girls, go go girls, street freelancers / beer bar girls, soapy girls, Thermae girls AND Thai Friendly girls (yes, that the one you want to practice with) then you arent ready.
Save FIW fans for when you are there for a loooong holiday and you are bored with everything else.
Hi Guys.
I'm a 60 year old Irish guy visiting soon staying in Novotel hotel Sol 4.
I Have a few questions so hoping for some info please. I like a mature lady between 30 to 40 y / o so will I find this type around where I'm staying?
Do any of the ladys speak English?
What can I expect to pay if I invite a lady for food and drinks then back to hotel for a few hrs or for the night?
Any other info l for a guy like myself that would be usefull would be much appreciated.
I have been reading the forum but unable to find the info .
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Bogman;2914402]Hi Guys.
I'm a 60 year old Irish guy visiting soon staying in Novotel hotel Sol 4.
I Have a few questions so hoping for some info please. I like a mature lady between 30 to 40 y / o so will I find this type around where I'm staying?
Do any of the ladys speak English?
What can I expect to pay if I invite a lady for food and drinks then back to hotel for a few hrs or for the night?
Any other info l for a guy like myself that would be usefull would be much appreciated.
I have been reading the forum but unable to find the info .
Thanks.[/QUOTE]You arent ready for FIWfans. What you pay depends on where you get her. Please read back 15 pages.
[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;2914270]I decided some time ago to experience different types of ladies. Last visit I hooked up with a very nice obese woman, for free. That was quite something. Don't wish to repeat.
This visit, which has just ended, I found a freelancer on TF who is deaf. Quite petite, a spinner you might call her, 29 year old Was interesting to hear the noises she made. Paid 1500 plus Grab bike.[/QUOTE]You'd regularly see a number of deal TF's outside the Nana hotel,. I imagine they are still meeting up there. Just watch for a minute you'll see them signing to each other.
Soi 4 has 2 to 3 dozens street women, starting after 4 PM until early morning. Most are Thais, a few Africans, Middle Easter women in long hijabs, also a few katoyes. Most are in their 30's and 40's, fairly chunky and chubby, very few slim girls just hang out on the street all night doing very little to no business that I could see. Most are nice, pleasant, some do speak adequate English, or I would use Google Voice Translate. Never had communication difficulties on the streets.
They would walk or take tuk tuks to your hotel for ST at 1,000 to 2,000 bahts, depending on each women and how you negotiate. Many fairly good restaurants and food carts work day and night on Soi 4. You can invite the women there for food and drinks, but prices for time and services should be negotiated clearly in advance.
I would suggest staying in hotels on Soi 4 to to make it easier to strike long time deals with these women. Plenty of 3 and 4 star hotels on Soi 4, those at the South end near the big park are quieter and cleaner.
I can't see any problems for guys like you. I only see big successes. Stick close to current market rates and don't let yourself get screwed by street wise hoes.
[QUOTE=Bogman;2914402]Hi Guys.
I'm a 60 year old Irish guy visiting soon staying in Novotel hotel Sol 4.
I Have a few questions so hoping for some info please. I like a mature lady between 30 to 40 y / o so will I find this type around where I'm staying?
Do any of the ladys speak English?
What can I expect to pay if I invite a lady for food and drinks then back to hotel for a few hrs or for the night?
Any other info l for a guy like myself that would be usefull would be much appreciated.
I have been reading the forum but unable to find the info .
Thanks.[/QUOTE]It will be a little bit more work for you, but if that's the age group you're looking for, I'd just try one of the many regular massage shops in the area. Enter a shop and speak directly to who you most fancy, or exit and try the next shop if there's no-one, and tell her (ignoring anyone else talking to you) that you would like her to give you a foot massage (half hour) there in the shop. If she seems receptive to your minor irish charm during the foot massage, tell her you would like to have oil massage at your hotel, which is a perfectly normal thing. Arrange the time during the foot massage ("can do now? My hotel is very close. ") As long as your hotel is nearby, price should be at most double of massage in shop.
There's a difference between the street walkers hanging around outside, and people working in massage, so there's no guarantee she'll spread her legs for you during the massage in your room, but with some gentle encouragement and an offer of a 2-3,000 baht tip (start at 1,000, and let her suggest something higher), I'd rate your chance of success more than 50%. You'd get a woman of, in my humble opinion, better quality, and who you also have a slight chance of getting along with well enough to actually enjoy some food and drinks with later, if that's what you want.
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2914509]Soi 4 has 2 to 3 dozens street women, starting after 4 PM until early morning. Most are Thais, a few Africans, Middle Easter women in long hijabs, also a few katoyes. Most are in their 30's and 40's, fairly chunky and chubby, very few slim girls just hang out on the street all night doing very little to no business that I could see. Most are nice, pleasant, some do speak adequate English, or I would use Google Voice Translate. Never had communication difficulties on the streets.
They would walk or take tuk tuks to your hotel for ST at 1,000 to 2,000 bahts, depending on each women and how you negotiate. Many fairly good restaurants and food carts work day and night on Soi 4. You can invite the women there for food and drinks, but prices for time and services should be negotiated clearly in advance.
I would suggest staying in hotels on Soi 4 to to make it easier to strike long time deals with these women. Plenty of 3 and 4 star hotels on Soi 4, those at the South end near the big park are quieter and cleaner..[/QUOTE]Only a few chicks with dicks? I would dare say that sometimes they outnumber good looking girls. In fact, if there's a good looking girl down on the soi 4 r, I examine carefully for ladyboy sign.
I give you points though for being a decent human being. My answer, which I was contemplating, wa "there are totally hot ones, mostly centered around the 7-Eleven about 200 m down the soy on the left as you are coming from suk".
[QUOTE=Bogman;2914402]Hi Guys.
I'm a 60 year old Irish guy visiting soon staying in Novotel hotel Sol 4.
I Have a few questions so hoping for some info please. I like a mature lady between 30 to 40 y / o so will I find this type around where I'm staying?
Do any of the ladys speak English?
What can I expect to pay if I invite a lady for food and drinks then back to hotel for a few hrs or for the night?
Any other info l for a guy like myself that would be usefull would be much appreciated.
I have been reading the forum but unable to find the info ..[/QUOTE]How is your physical appearance?
I'm 63 but in very good shape and look younger and I pull 18 to 20 year olds without trying. Not showing off, just sharing my experience. Most girls, regardless of what country you're in, don't care about age. Its about the cash.
[QUOTE=Bogman;2914402]Hi Guys.
I'm a 60 year old Irish guy visiting soon staying in Novotel hotel Sol 4.
I Have a few questions so hoping for some info please. I like a mature lady between 30 to 40 y / o so will I find this type around where I'm staying?
Do any of the ladys speak English?
What can I expect to pay if I invite a lady for food and drinks then back to hotel for a few hrs or for the night?
Any other info l for a guy like myself that would be usefull would be much appreciated.
I have been reading the forum but unable to find the info .
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Most of the good fun girls in the Soi 4 Beer Bars seem to belong to the 30 to 40 age group.
Thanks guys.
I talked to a few street women on Soi 4. They stood on sidewalk a couple doors South of nana Plaza down to the 7-11. Most are pleasant and easy going. They did not do any hard sell.
I did not talk to or see any lady boys at all for a couple nights. Of course I did not do the Crocodile Dandee's hand shake. The aggressive ways they walk, talk, gesture, also their Adam's apple and deep voices, would give them away. I don't think there are risks of picking up lady boys on Soi 4. AFAIK they hang out and make a lot of noise on Soi 21 or 23. Youtube shows a recent catfight, a dozen Thai lady boys beat the shit out of a few Philippines on the street.
Gentlemen,
I am a long time contributor to the Guide, have always spit the truth whether it made me look good or bad. I have obviously done a good amount of research and I am getting very conflicting reports. I am off work for several weeks and I am trying to plan a long term trip. I am leaning strongly in favor of Thailand where the majority of my trip would be in Bangkok. I am early 40's, white, decent shape, with a healthy budget, but cannot be wasteful with my time or money.
Will I be able with a little effort to fuck young beautiful Thai girls, under 25 years old, in the under $150 an hour range out of the Gogos and Gentleman's Clubs? I am seeing reports that the top level girls are asking 10,000 Baht all in for such encounters. Meaning drinks, bar fine, and the girl's price. At that price, I may stick to my usual spots in Latin America or maybe Brazil.
Second question, Are the Marriott hotels in Bangkok girl friendly, meaning I can bring 1 girl back a night and won't be charged? I have done this in other countries and I usually can get away with it. Marriott is also kind of expensive for a long stay, where would you recommend someone stay who is there for several weeks? Airbnb? Does Thailand have decent short time hotels?
How hard is it to get a few regular hassle free girls from the gogos for some repeat day time action? This was attainable for me in Latin America, but I have been reading prices have gone up a lot in Thailand and the tops girls are only going at cheaper rates with younger guys.
What's up with Russian and African girls in Bangkok? They give full GFE service? Are they there in significant numbers where you can easily find them? Are the foreign girls quality or the run down ones that can't get work in their home countries anymore?
I plan on doing extensive research and presenting a data filled presentation on my findings and comparing them extensively with my other data filled reports on Latin America LOL.
[QUOTE=Vendelo;2914643]How is your physical appearance?
I'm 63 but in very good shape and look younger and I pull 18 to 20 year olds without trying. Not showing off, just sharing my experience. Most girls, regardless of what country you're in, don't care about age. Its about the cash.[/QUOTE]Exactly. I'm 70, fat, bald and physically and morally repulsive although I do drench myself in Clive Christain or Tom Ford so at least I'm not an olafactory mess, and I pull whoever I want when I wear my Feast of San Gennaro Costume (1000 baht bills pinned to my clothes).
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2914509]Soi 4 has 2 to 3 dozens street women, starting after 4 PM until early morning. Most are Thais, a few Africans, Middle Easter women in long hijabs, also a few katoyes. Most are in their 30's and 40's, fairly chunky and chubby, very few slim girls just hang out on the street all night doing very little to no business that I could see. Most are nice, pleasant, some do speak adequate English, or I would use Google Voice Translate. Never had communication difficulties on the streets.
They would walk or take tuk tuks to your hotel for ST at 1,000 to 2,000 bahts, depending on each women and how you negotiate. [/QUOTE]I thought the general asking price was 2,000 . Low balling maybe 1500 but 1000 for ST really? Or are we talking about mega fuglies?
NI.
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2914797]Tell me no lies[/QUOTE]You will be able to find tons of pretty girls under 25 for $150 USD per hour. Not coming is a mistake even though many of us who have been around for a while will say it's not as good now as it was before. Which sex location world wide is better now than 10 years ago? Make a list of places you want to hit in Bangkok or even Pattaya. If young and looks are what you want and things like BBFS and Anal aren't a deal breaker then imo start night 1 at Thermae and go from there.
Learn who the posters are and who provides honest current information. Lots of guys on here post stuff and they haven't been in Thailand for a year or some even 5+ years. Some have never been here at all but pretend they have been. Take everything you read here with a grain of salt. Most guys aren't in their 40's and good looking like yourself. Many guys aren't easy on the eyes for the girls and have no charm.
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2914797]
Will I be able with a little effort to fuck young beautiful Thai girls, under 25 years old, in the under $150 an hour range out of the Gogos and Gentleman's Clubs? I am seeing reports that the top level girls are asking 10,000 Baht all in for such encounters. Meaning drinks, bar fine, and the girl's price. At that price, I may stick to my usual spots in Latin America or maybe Brazil.
Second question, Are the Marriott hotels in Bangkok girl friendly, meaning I can bring 1 girl back a night and won't be charged? I have done this in other countries and I usually can get away with it. Marriott is also kind of expensive for a long stay, where would you recommend someone stay who is there for several weeks? Airbnb? Does Thailand have decent short time hotels?
How hard is it to get a few regular hassle free girls from the gogos for some repeat day time action? This was attainable for me in Latin America, but I have been reading prices have gone up a lot in Thailand and the tops girls are only going at cheaper rates with younger guys.
What's up with Russian and African girls in Bangkok? They give full GFE service? Are they there in significant numbers where you can easily find them? Are the foreign girls quality or the run down ones that can't get work in their home countries anymore?
[/QUOTE]1. More like $200 (7 K Bhat) for the better looking gogo girls. Better looking is subjective of course. You should not mind excessive tattoos, fake boobs, modified noses etc because that's what most gogo dancers look like these days. Also expect a mostly mediocre commercial sex session (rare exceptions may surprise you but its not a given).
2. Almost all hotels on Sukhumvit are girl friendly.
3. Daytime is possible if you hit it off with a dancer.
4. don't go to an Italian restaurant and order sushi. Thailand is for Thai girls. Maybe an occasional Lao.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2914858]I thought the general asking price was 2,000 . Low balling maybe 1500 but 1000 for ST really? Or are we talking about mega fuglies?
NI.[/QUOTE]I pray my Words are having an effect.
You see price of 1 k it's auto Ugly, old, fat smelly, deaf, diseased, what have you.
I'm legit. LOL. Hahaha. LOL. Hahaha.
[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2914772]I talked to a few street women on Soi 4. They stood on sidewalk a couple doors South of nana Plaza down to the 7-11. Most are pleasant and easy going. They did not do any hard sell.
I did not talk to or see any lady boys at all for a couple nights. Of course I did not do the Crocodile Dandee's hand shake. The aggressive ways they walk, talk, gesture, also their Adam's apple and deep voices, would give them away. I don't think there are risks of picking up lady boys on Soi 4. AFAIK they hang out and make a lot of noise on Soi 21 or 23. Youtube shows a recent catfight, a dozen Thai lady boys beat the shit out of a few Philippines on the street.[/QUOTE]With respect my bro, there are ladyboys all over Soi 4 and that includes one or two in the deaf crowd and.
In front of the 7-11 about 200 m in from Suk; hovering around the first corner after after Nana,; at the ATMs right near the Indian Nightclub; across the street from the African girls further down and general random movements.
Most are blatant and even uglier than the ones around the police box.
I don't like sending rookies down Soi 4.
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2914797]Gentlemen,
I am a long time contributor to the Guide, have always spit the truth whether it made me look good or bad. I have obviously done a good amount of research and I am getting very conflicting reports. I am off work for several weeks and I am trying to plan a long term trip. I am leaning strongly in favor of Thailand where the majority of my trip would be in Bangkok. I am early 40's, white, decent shape, with a healthy budget, but cannot be wasteful with my time or money.
Will I be able with a little effort to fuck young beautiful Thai girls, under 25 years old, in the under $150 an hour range out of the Gogos and Gentleman's Clubs? I am seeing reports that the top level girls are asking 10,000 Baht all in for such encounters. Meaning drinks, bar fine, and the girl's price. At that price, I may stick to my usual spots in Latin America or maybe Brazil.
Second question, Are the Marriott hotels in Bangkok girl friendly, meaning I can bring 1 girl back a night and won't be charged? I have done this in other countries and I usually can get away with it. Marriott is also kind of expensive for a long stay, where would you recommend someone stay who is there for several weeks? Airbnb? Does Thailand have decent short time hotels?
How hard is it to get a few regular hassle free girls from the gogos for some repeat day time action? This was attainable for me in Latin America, but I have been reading prices have gone up a lot in Thailand and the tops girls are only going at cheaper rates with younger guys.
What's up with Russian and African girls in Bangkok? They give full GFE service? Are they there in significant numbers where you can easily find them? Are the foreign girls quality or the run down ones that can't get work in their home countries anymore?
I plan on doing extensive research and presenting a data filled presentation on my findings and comparing them extensively with my other data filled reports on Latin America LOL.[/QUOTE]There is so much pussy under $150 that you will be overwhelmed. Top shelf? Thats for you to decide. But if you want to play the rich international lover game and buy loads of drinks and posture like a poseur, you can spend 10,000 be.
Marriot is fine, if you would have RTFF you would have known.
I get regulars all the time and I'm not as wonderful as you. Takes some time though. Any go go girl you smash will be happy to see you in the daytime for money.
African girls are not GFE, nor are the unicorn Russian girls.
Loook forward to your report, I hope it better researched than your question.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2914858]I thought the general asking price was 2,000 . Low balling maybe 1500 but 1000 for ST really? Or are we talking about mega fuglies?
NI.[/QUOTE]70% of all of them are between minor fugly to major fugly. Gems require contstant alertness and attendance.
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2914797]Gentlemen,
I am a long time contributor to the Guide, have always spit the truth whether it made me look good or bad. I have obviously done a good amount of research and I am getting very conflicting reports. I am off work for several weeks and I am trying to plan a long term trip. I am leaning strongly in favor of Thailand where the majority of my trip would be in Bangkok. I am early 40's, white, decent shape, with a healthy budget, but cannot be wasteful with my time or money.
Will I be able with a little effort to fuck young beautiful Thai girls, under 25 years old, in the under $150 an hour range out of the Gogos and Gentleman's Clubs? I am seeing reports that the top level girls are asking 10,000 Baht all in for such encounters. Meaning drinks, bar fine, and the girl's price. At that price, I may stick to my usual spots in Latin America or maybe Brazil.
Second question, Are the Marriott hotels in Bangkok girl friendly, meaning I can bring 1 girl back a night and won't be charged? I have done this in other countries and I usually can get away with it. Marriott is also kind of expensive for a long stay, where would you recommend someone stay who is there for several weeks? Airbnb? Does Thailand have decent short time hotels?
How hard is it to get a few regular hassle free girls from the gogos for some repeat day time action? This was attainable for me in Latin America, but I have been reading prices have gone up a lot in Thailand and the tops girls are only going at cheaper rates with younger guys.
What's up with Russian and African girls in Bangkok? They give full GFE service? Are they there in significant numbers where you can easily find them? Are the foreign girls quality or the run down ones that can't get work in their home countries anymore?
I plan on doing extensive research and presenting a data filled presentation on my findings and comparing them extensively with my other data filled reports on Latin America LOL.[/QUOTE]I stayed in Marriott Marquis Soi 22 within last few months, nice hotel, nice restaurants, breakfast buffet is huge etc. Guest friendly as I'd say all Marriott's are. Just make sure you book the room as "double occupancy" or triple if you are that way inclined, wink wink. There are plenty of massage shops very close by and also within walking distance of Soi 33 where you'll find some of the best MP's (in my opinion).
Soi 22, is a bit of a long walk to Nana for example, to be trying to drag girls back to your hotel by foot. Don't forget the heat can be overbearing too.
Thanks for all the replies guys. It is much appreciated. Sorry I should have been more specific about one question. Is the sex full GFE more than 50% of the time? Meaning kissing and no condom blowjob? Those are deal breakers for me. I am cool with condoms for sex.
[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2914875]1. More like $200 (7 K Bhat) for the better looking gogo girls. [/QUOTE]OP was asking for 1 hour ST so it should be under 5000 baht. I'm not expert on BKK gogo prices but I think it's still 5000 baht ST, 7000 baht LT. In BKK makes no sense imo to pay a BF in a gogo bar when you have Thermae at 2500-3000 ST. and no need to buy LD's. If you want a gogo girl arrange to see her on an off day or before/after work.
[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2911014]
While "charm" is not something they have in common, both have similar mongering experiences available. Both have go-go bars, blow job bars, massage joints, "street meat", online talent, etc. That said, in my "OPINION", the quality and quantity of service providers is hands-down better in BKK. For instance, the number of "stunners" in BKK probably outnumbers the number in Pattaya by at least 5-1. (Just my opinion). In fact, one Issan damsel said that she planned to work in Pattaya because she wasn't pretty enough for BKK. Think of Second City TV or "not ready for prime time".
[/QUOTE]I agree. I was two times in Pattaya, both disappointing.
In Bangkok I found good or very good quality for a reasonable price quite every day.
Bangkok have a better quality that Pattaya at the same price.
I been in Bangkok for some months, if I consider all my three trips here.
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2914949]Thanks for all the replies guys. It is much appreciated. Sorry I should have been more specific about one question. Is the sex full GFE more than 50% of the time? Meaning kissing and no condom blowjob? Those are deal breakers for me. I am cool with condoms for sex.[/QUOTE]Dude you want to kiss one of these girls, ask them. If they say no, pull out more money. I know there's a streetwalker girl that specializes and girlfriend experience with loads of kissing, she dresses like a schoolgirl look for her down near the Plaza.
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2914949]Thanks for all the replies guys. It is much appreciated. Sorry I should have been more specific about one question. Is the sex full GFE more than 50% of the time? Meaning kissing and no condom blowjob? Those are deal breakers for me. I am cool with condoms for sex.[/QUOTE]You will almost always get no condom BJ. If she says no to that, I would try to leave if it's not too late. Any girl who insists on condom for BJ is going to be a pain in the ass for most other things. Maybe you could briefly discuss those things with her before you start. Thai girls will definitely kiss, but I've gotten less "good" kissing over the last few years. I think it's my own aging rather than some change in the girls. They are usually not very good kissers though. The stiff tongue is something I have gotten in asia that I never experienced before coming here. You can see it in asian porn, so I don't think it's something about me. I think you'll find latin girls to be much better kissers as a whole.
If you want GFE, I would recommend Thai Friendly or the massage places over the go-gos or clubs. Or at least that's my experience. There are a lot of pretty girls at the mid-range massage places and the cost is usually 2-4 k, depending on the girl and if you want a regular shower or jacuzzi and how much time you want to stay. I usually do 90 minutes and it's right around 3 K. Some things are extra. For example, if you want full service without condom, you will pay an extra 1-2 k. Cum in mouth or on face are usually free or minimal. Anal is extra, but I don't do it so I'm not sure of the cost -- probably similar to no condom sex.
I really recommend Thai Friendly for GFE. I've had a lot of good luck in Pattaya with it and plan to use it more in Bangkok sometime soon. You could even get started with it from wherever you are now. When you get a week or two before your trip, join Thai Friendly and try to get the Line contacts for some girls you think you'd like to see. Tell them you'll be there in a week or two. But don't make any definite plans before you get here because they'll forget or blow it off that far ahead (thai girls are NOT known for their planning). Instead, when you get here, message them and try to set something up. I really liked them for daytime meetings because you will almost certainly be the first customer of the day and it still leaves you the rest of the day if it falls through. Look for "freelance" in their profile or other hints like the eggplant emoji or something cute under their occupation. In my experience, the girls in pattaya are more open about what they are doing on Thai Friendly, but rest assured most of the girls are open to making money. Just be polite and ask. Don't beat around the Bush. You can send out a bunch of messages very quickly. I usually say that I like their profile, especially the pic where they are wearing a red dress (or something else about one of their pics). Then I say that I don't want to be rude but I wonder if they do freelance. I just cut and paste the same message to all the girls of interest. The only thing I change is the description of one pic, which I do to let them know I looked at their profile and to make them feel like I find them attractive. If you send out 10, you'll get responses to 2-3, depending how attractive you are. You may get more if you are younger than me (I'm 55). I do not have a pic on my profile, but I send them a pic with my message.
Check out the massage threads for the names of the best massage places. My favs right now are Butterfly, Smile, Wonder, and Hunny Bunny.
[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2914949]Thanks for all the replies guys. It is much appreciated. Sorry I should have been more specific about one question. Is the sex full GFE more than 50% of the time? Meaning kissing and no condom blowjob? Those are deal breakers for me. I am cool with condoms for sex.[/QUOTE]Your definition of GFE should be close to 100% in Bangkok. Most Thai girls are not very good kissers though unless you're willing to train them. If you're as you described yourself you should be 100%.
[QUOTE=GiovanniVolo;2915013]I agree. I was two times in Pattaya, both disappointing.
In Bangkok I found good or very good quality for a reasonable price quite every day.
Bangkok have a better quality that Pattaya at the same price.
I been in Bangkok for some months, if I consider all my three trips here.[/QUOTE]Pattaya was great fun 20 years ago during low season when your basically have the town to yourself and there were plenty of gals. Soi 6 was amazing. Gals were 500 Baht ST and and BF was 200 to 300 including the room.
I remember when the first Starbucks opened in Patters. Soi 13/1 and Beach Rd. They had an upstairs and we'd grab our coffee and sit up there for a couple of hours in the afternoon usually having the place to ourselves.
Certainly miss those times.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2915082]Pattaya was great fun 20 years ago during low season when your basically have the town to yourself and there were plenty of gals. Soi 6 was amazing. Gals were 500 Baht ST and and BF was 200 to 300 including the room.
I remember when the first Starbucks opened in Patters. Soi 13/1 and Beach Rd. They had an upstairs and we'd grab our coffee and sit up there for a couple of hours in the afternoon usually having the place to ourselves.
Certainly miss those times.[/QUOTE]Girls are still 500 ish Bro.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2915082]Pattaya was great fun 20 years ago during low season.[/QUOTE]Yes, I think Soi 6 reached its absolute peak in the early 2000's. Prices were cheap and quality could be excellent. Red Point alone had three or four total babes. I knew a couple who had worked as top go-go dancers on Walking Street but realized they could have more customers and get home earlier by working on Soi 6. Then there was King Kong at its most raunchy, and the excellent T. G. Bar and Thai Rose and My Friend You and so many more. Nice memories.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2915082]Pattaya was great fun 20 years ago during low season when your basically have the town to yourself and there were plenty of gals. Soi 6 was amazing. Gals were 500 Baht ST and and BF was 200 to 300 including the room.
I remember when the first Starbucks opened in Patters. Soi 13/1 and Beach Rd. They had an upstairs and we'd grab our coffee and sit up there for a couple of hours in the afternoon usually having the place to ourselves.
Certainly miss those times.[/QUOTE]Adjusting for inflation, prices are about the same today.
More importantly, you have a lot more money than you did 20 years ago.
[QUOTE=Betong;2915114]Yes, I think Soi 6 reached its absolute peak in the early 2000's. Prices were cheap and quality could be excellent. Red Point alone had three or four total babes. I knew a couple who had worked as top go-go dancers on Walking Street but realized they could have more customers and get home earlier by working on Soi 6. Then there was King Kong at its most raunchy, and the excellent T. G. Bar and Thai Rose and My Friend You and so many more. Nice memories.[/QUOTE]I remember all those bars fondly. Red Point did have some amazing lookers, also had a great one at Ruby that was thin, pretty, light skin, no baby, loved to be spanked, perverted, and can take a pounding. 500 Baht, which was $12.50 USD back then. I'm absolutely amazed at what guys are willing to pay now for girls I wouldn't give a second look to. But then again, the punter demographic was extremely different back then. Aside from the Japanese who went to separate bars, it was all Europeans, OZ / NZ, and North Americans.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2915162] I'm absolutely amazed at what guys are willing to pay now for girls I wouldn't give a second look to. [/QUOTE]Problem is guys don't know any better or they wouldn't find many girls. Almost every guy I know IRL all of which have been coming to Thailand over 10 years has found another monger destination they prefer over Thailand. Mine are currently Jakarta and Japan, subject to change as the market changes.
Anyone have experience with gentlemen clubs? Wish to go to the Elite with friends, heard girls are like really pretty there. I heard about the pimp, and people can be wild in the VIPs, I wonder is it something Elite or other gentlemen club offer? Can people play with them naked and stuff? Or any other recommendation for gentlemen club.
I Remember, but now I start forgotten, memory go away likes SANDS, where all that girls that I meet 20 y ago, where they are now, but 20 years ago the price was 300 for the room and 700 for the girls.
Jakarta makes sense, but Japan as mongering destination is interesting choice.
I never been to Japan, but I understand it is expensive place to live.
How do you compare it to Jakarta or Bkk for prices? Do you pay 2 to 3 times more?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2915178]Mine are currently Jakarta and Japan....[/QUOTE]
Agree with you at Explorer8939.
I believe we all make much more than just adjusting for inflation.
My salary was 54 K USD 20 yrs back, now I make over 250 k USD.
Most people going to Thailand now make much more than they used to make before.
Of course for people who live on retirement savings or limited monthly income, current prices in Thailand will sound expensive than they used to pay before.
But for new generation the prices feel reasonable.
In 15 yrs when I retire, I would compare today's prices with prices that time, and definitely I will be very upset.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2915117]Adjusting for inflation, prices are about the same today.
More importantly, you have a lot more money than you did 20 years ago.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2915178]Problem is guys don't know any better or they wouldn't find many girls. Almost every guy I know IRL all of which have been coming to Thailand over 10 years has found another monger destination they prefer over Thailand. Mine are currently Jakarta and Japan, subject to change as the market changes.[/QUOTE]I think Jakarta is cheaper. Please correct. But why Jakarta over Thailand?
In Thailand, Patts and the general Suk area is very centralized, I've read Jakarta is very spread out and getting between mongering areas is chaotic.
Please educate me as yes, have never been to Jakarta.
Appreciate.
NI.
[QUOTE=Pk099;2915242]Agree with you at Explorer8939.
I believe we all make much more than just adjusting for inflation.
My salary was 54 K USD 20 yrs back, now I make over 250 k USD.
Most people going to Thailand now make much more than they used to make before.
Of course for people who live on retirement savings or limited monthly income, current prices in Thailand will sound expensive than they used to pay before.
But for new generation the prices feel reasonable.
In 15 yrs when I retire, I would compare today's prices with prices that time, and definitely I will be very upset.[/QUOTE]Take the avg Sexpats.
He made $35,000 in 2000. I wouldn't be surprised if he still makes $35,000.
Sexpats are not known for Progressing income.
Rich and Famous are not attracted to Thailand. Broke and poor flock to Thailand like there's no Tomorrow.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2915117]Adjusting for inflation, prices are about the same today.
More importantly, you have a lot more money than you did 20 years ago.[/QUOTE]Forgetting about the prices, and the fact that we all probably have a lot more money now than we did, during low season Patters was almost empty, well empty in terms of punters, there were lots of girls, and few guys, which made it quite wonderful. Soi 6 on a weekday afternoon, well, you might see two or three other guys walking down the soi, and that was it. I would also contend that the girls were considerably more fun. Soi 6 was all enclosed bars and not open bars with loud music. Once the night watch group moved in, it ceased to be interesting in my opinion. Soi 6 in the afternoon, Go-Go's at night, and then Marine disco late. It was a lot of fun and as I said very few people during low season. It's packed all the time now and with a very different demographic, one I really don't care to associate with.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2915178]Problem is guys don't know any better or they wouldn't find many girls. Almost every guy I know IRL all of which have been coming to Thailand over 10 years has found another monger destination they prefer over Thailand. Mine are currently Jakarta and Japan, subject to change as the market changes.[/QUOTE]Jakarta has always been fabulous, even in the early 00's, back when Stadium was rocking and Tierra Sierra was open. I haven't been there in a while, because actually there's very little to do during the day. Now there's some wonderful traveling and trekking in Indonesia and doing a weekend in Jakarta as bookends is kind of cool.
I absolutely love Japan. One of my favorite places and I'm even considering getting an akiya, but I've never mongered there, I'm always too busy eating, walking around the cities, being out in nature, going to baseball games etc. Skiing for sure this winter.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2915117]Adjusting for inflation, prices are about the same today.
More importantly, you have a lot more money than you did 20 years ago.[/QUOTE]The oilies are making a bit of a comeback here in Bangkok, and while the prices are up, they are nowhere near up as much as they are in Go-Go's or in Soi 6. In addition there are quite a few of them now and they seem to be providing better service as they know there is competition.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2915308]The oilies are making a bit of a comeback here in Bangkok, and while the prices are up, they are nowhere near up as much as they are in Go-Go's or in Soi 6. In addition there are quite a few of them now and they seem to be providing better service as they know there is competition.[/QUOTE]I don't think Bangkok GoGos, other than BillBoard, have inflated prices. Thermae pricing to me has been flat. Bar fines are up. I don't do oilies or saopies anymore. The last GoGo in Pattaya I barfines a girl at was in Tahitian Queen.
Found myself back in Bangkok for a few days, but too busy with work stuff to spend time at the GoGo bars, so just pulled a few girls from Thermae. My type is young, slim, petite and natural boobs (which is hard to tell in Thermae because they are all dressed!). First night I had Apple, a real nice girl who turned out to have bolt-ons, but at least they were soft, so kudos to her surgeon. Only closed lips kissing was available, but she loved DATY (which I don't always do, but her pussy looked so delicious) and gave an excellent BBBJ and CFS in multiple positions. Finished with a HJ (my preference) and an explosive cum. F 8, B 8, A 8, S 8.5, a B+ experience for 3 K.
Next night I tried a sweet-looking girl with a nice smile, Nun, but she turned out to be a disaster. She didn't speak much English, and although she agreed to kissing and BBBJ at Thermae, in the room she tried to renege, first by saying she had a mouth sore (not visible), and then that she has a boyfriend. She didn't like having her tits touched or licked, and tried to go immediately into CFS. Clearly she was just making excuses, and worse her body was more doughy when she took off her clothes. She eventually started a lame BBBJ that was just amateurish, so I threw some money at her and told her to go away. True WOT.
After, I went back and pulled Fa, who was terrific and one of my best experiences at Thermae. She was very pretty and petite, maybe 4.11, but had a perfect slim body with luscious B-size natural tits that looked bigger on her small frame. She spoke good English and really tried to take good care of me, was very responsive to direction, gave a really good BBBJ, and we had a great time together. An A-rated experience for 3K. F 9, B 9, A 10, S 9.
I enjoy the lineup atmosphere at Thermae and mostly have had good experiences. Much easier and faster than gogo bars, and cheaper once lady drinks and bar fines taken into account.
Happy hobbying, guys!
[QUOTE=RTheMan;2915342]Found myself back in Bangkok for a few days, but too busy with work stuff to spend time at the GoGo bars, so just pulled a few girls from Thermae. My type is young, slim, petite and natural boobs (which is hard to tell in Thermae because they are all dressed!). First night I had Apple, a real nice girl who turned out to have bolt-ons, but at least they were soft, so kudos to her surgeon. Only closed lips kissing was available, but she loved DATY (which I don't always do, but her pussy looked so delicious) and gave an excellent BBBJ and CFS in multiple positions. Finished with a HJ (my preference) and an explosive cum. F 8, B 8, A 8, S 8.5, a B+ experience for 3 K.
Next night I tried a sweet-looking girl with a nice smile, Nun, but she turned out to be a disaster. She didn't speak much English, and although she agreed to kissing and BBBJ at Thermae, in the room she tried to renege, first by saying she had a mouth sore (not visible), and then that she has a boyfriend. She didn't like having her tits touched or licked, and tried to go immediately into CFS. Clearly she was just making excuses, and worse her body was more doughy when she took off her clothes. She eventually started a lame BBBJ that was just amateurish, so I threw some money at her and told her to go away. True WOT.
After, I went back and pulled Fa, who was terrific and one of my best experiences at Thermae. She was very pretty and petite, maybe 4.11, but had a perfect slim body with luscious B-size natural tits that looked bigger on her small frame. She spoke good English and really tried to take good care of me, was very responsive to direction, gave a really good BBBJ, and we had a great time together. An A-rated experience for 3K. F 9, B 9, A 10, S 9.
I enjoy the lineup atmosphere at Thermae and mostly have had good experiences. Much easier and faster than gogo bars, and cheaper once lady drinks and bar fines taken into account.
Happy hobbying, guys![/QUOTE]If you snagged Fa by the back door and she was like 25 and looked 14, you got a gem.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2915317]I don't think Bangkok GoGos, other than BillBoard, have inflated prices. Thermae pricing to me has been flat. Bar fines are up. I don't do oilies or saopies anymore. The last GoGo in Pattaya I barfines a girl at was in Tahitian Queen.[/QUOTE]Thermae flat? It's been on a steady increase for some time. It was 1 k from my first visit in 99 until 2010, now 3 k and up. BKK GoGos have been tourist traps in my opinion for quite a few years. Once the Arab bought Midnight and started the Coyote nonsense, salaries changed considerably, and so did the entire GoGo scene. Gals were making enough money to where they can survive just on their salaries and drinks, which by the way is still the case, no longer having to hustle BFs. It was so great back in the day to be outside of Nana or Cowboy when the bars closed and every gal that didn't get a bar fine but try to grab on to you and say go with you.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2915653]Thermae flat? It's been on a steady increase for some time. It was 1 k from my first visit in 99 until 2010, now 3 k and up. BKK GoGos have been tourist traps in my opinion for quite a few years. Once the Arab bought Midnight and started the Coyote nonsense, salaries changed considerably, and so did the entire GoGo scene. Gals were making enough money to where they can survive just on their salaries and drinks, which by the way is still the case, no longer having to hustle BFs. It was so great back in the day to be outside of Nana or Cowboy when the bars closed and every gal that didn't get a bar fine but try to grab on to you and say go with you.[/QUOTE]I didn't say it hasn't increased, it just has been silly in the increases. 1 K 30 years ago, 2500 K now. Not even counting exchange rates, etc.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2915656]I didn't say it hasn't increased, it just has been silly in the increases. 1 K 30 years ago, 2500 K now. Not even counting exchange rates, etc.[/QUOTE]Hard pressed to get under 3 k. So considering the exchange rates you're looking at a 200% increase. Not to mention the place is lost its fun aspect that it had in the early 00's. Gals dancing by the jukebox and grabbing your unit as you walked by them. Now it's like a morgue in there.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2915763]Hard pressed to get under 3 k. So considering the exchange rates you're looking at a 200% increase. Not to mention the place is lost its fun aspect that it had in the early 00's. Gals dancing by the jukebox and grabbing your unit as you walked by them. Now it's like a morgue in there.[/QUOTE]It's like a morgue to you. I have a great time. I always get under 3000 too.
A lot of great reports here but everywhere seems to be 45-60 mins away from the airport. I have a 4. 5 HR layover in BKK and was wondering if they are any BJ bars / brothels closer to the airport.
Any help would be appreciated.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2915317]I don't think Bangkok GoGos, other than BillBoard, have inflated prices.[/QUOTE]What do you mean? The girls are quoting higher prices at Billboard than in other Gogos, or is it the price of the LD?
The price of the beer is not inflated (155 for LEO) and at least it seems to be the only lively place in the NEP, every other places are looking dead once you have a look inside.
Number 31 is smart. She's got a short haircut that suits her well and differenciates her very well from every other girls, she's confident and tall. She's been called and barfined a lot during the two last nights. But I saw very few girls I would want to spend big bucks on.
I've been back in Bkk these last two days, first observations:
There was not a single person in front of me at the immigration desk.
Price of the oil massage (without extra) have gone up substantially. I've seen only two places offering it at 400 per hour. Every others were 500,600 and even 650 per hour. Strangely, prices of other services didn't go up (foot or Thai massage). These prices have been checked along Sukhumvit between Nana and Prom Phong.
NEP is filled with so many LB bars nowadays, I could count at least 5 or 6 LB bars there. Newbies beware in which bars your putting your feet in.
It's so hot outside that I'm fearing to get a cold because of the big difference of temperature between outside and every places we want to go in. Hope it's going to keep raining hard during early mid days.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2915260]I think Jakarta is cheaper. Please correct. But why Jakarta over Thailand?
In Thailand, Patts and the general Suk area is very centralized, I've read Jakarta is very spread out and getting between mongering areas is chaotic.
Please educate me as yes, have never been to Jakarta.
Appreciate..[/QUOTE]Bangkok and Jakarta are two different beasts all together. Most westerners will prefer Bangkok. You can get pretend girlfriends with fake boobs and tons of tats to sit with you while you drink. Some may seduce you and play the long game. Plus Bangkok has a lot of non mongering attractions, food, culture, massage, shopping etc. Jakarta has none of that but it does have younger, less jaded, less body modified girls you can fuck for well under $30 with no drinks drama. They won't speak English and pretend to be your girlfriend and there is less to do in the day so if you stay more than a few days you will be bored. But as a weekend fuckcation destination its better value and better sex in my opinion.
I think EA's summary of BKK vs Jakarta is pretty bang on. If you like drama and game playing Thailand is for you. If you are looking for a fake GF Thailand is for you. Notwithstanding CJ's and BATS, Jakarta is pure point and shoot. When Jakarta girls get to know you they will sit with you and hang out. Otherwise, you get girls in groups of 20 brought up to you until you find one that you like. No need to buy a drink. No need to buy LD's.
Typical Jakarta day starting at 5 pm. Pick a pretty girl in her early 20's, fuck her for an hour, go back to the main room, pick a 2nd girl and repeat, get some dinner before 10 pm, go back or to another bar and pick another girl. Total cost 365 k x 3 girls ($69 US), plus 300k tip ($18 US). Do make sure you tip the Jakarta girls. They make so little. Thailand doesn't have anything close to that, not even Soi 6 with their inferior girls at $50 US plus tip and drinks and LD's per girl!
As for traffic in north Jakarta, Classic, Travel, Malio, Kota Indah all 10-15 minutes taxi of one another even with traffic. Taxi rides will all be under 5 USD. About the same time it would take from Terminal 21 to Walking Street on a baht bus or Nana to Cowboy in BKK traffic.
Negative about Jakarta, it's a bit out of the way like Manila/AC.
Tonight around 11 h30 was the good time to be in Billboard.
Not for the show on stage, which is pretty much the same every night.
But for the improvised show in the middle of the gogo. A big fist fight, 5 on 5 big guys, all of them customers and westerners. A two minutes fight that ended with one of the group being stomped on the ground. There was only one security guy and he stepped on the side from the beginning and didn't intervene at all. 3 others came way after the fight stopped and took the winners group outside. They picked a fight with the big spenders of the night, so it was easy for the Thais to decide what to do. I highly doubt these guys being beaten by the guards on the way out, they were quite big and knew how to fight like a pack. My guess is they've been told to get out and never come back to the NEP. One of the losers had been stomped very badly and still stayed for an hour, pretending to be ok. His friends shoud have taken him to get a scan, he took some real big shots on the ground.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2915914]I think EA's summary of BKK vs Jakarta is pretty bang on. If you like drama and game playing Thailand is for you. If you are looking for a fake GF Thailand is for you. Notwithstanding CJ's and BATS, Jakarta is pure point and shoot. When Jakarta girls get to know you they will sit with you and hang out. Otherwise, you get girls in groups of 20 brought up to you until you find one that you like. No need to buy a drink. No need to buy LD's.
Typical Jakarta day starting at 5 pm. Pick a pretty girl in her early 20's, fuck her for an hour, go back to the main room, pick a 2nd girl and repeat, get some dinner before 10 pm, go back or to another bar and pick another girl. Total cost 365 k x 3 girls ($69 US), plus 300k tip ($18 US). Do make sure you tip the Jakarta girls. They make so little. Thailand doesn't have anything close to that, not even Soi 6 with their inferior girls at $50 US plus tip and drinks and LD's per girl!
As for traffic in north Jakarta, Classic, Travel, Malio, Kota Indah all 10-15 minutes taxi of one another even with traffic. Taxi rides will all be under 5 USD. About the same time it would take from Terminal 21 to Walking Street on a baht bus or Nana to Cowboy in BKK traffic.
Negative about Jakarta, it's a bit out of the way like Manila/AC.[/QUOTE]Do they Place their mouths on penises?
I assume there is no weed there.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2915914]I think EA's summary of BKK vs Jakarta is pretty bang on. If you like drama and game playing Thailand is for you. If you are looking for a fake GF Thailand is for you. Notwithstanding CJ's and BATS, Jakarta is pure point and shoot. When Jakarta girls get to know you they will sit with you and hang out. Otherwise, you get girls in groups of 20 brought up to you until you find one that you like. No need to buy a drink. No need to buy LD's.
[/QUOTE]Pretty much what I thought and researched. For me stuff to do during the day is important, can't fuck 24/7.
Is there much online options there like TF or Pina? FLers using Wechat, or what ever?
Seems like a drop in place for 5 days and then off to somewhere else.
Appreciate your replies guys.
NI.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2915829]I've been back in Bkk these last two days, first observations:
There was not a single person in front of me at the immigration desk.
Price of the oil massage (without extra) have gone up substantially. I've seen only two places offering it at 400 per hour. Every others were 500,600 and even 650 per hour. Strangely, prices of other services didn't go up (foot or Thai massage). These prices have been checked along Sukhumvit between Nana and Prom Phong.
NEP is filled with so many LB bars nowadays, I could count at least 5 or 6 LB bars there. Newbies beware in which bars your putting your feet in.
It's so hot outside that I'm fearing to get a cold because of the big difference of temperature between outside and every places we want to go in. Hope it's going to keep raining hard during early mid days.[/QUOTE]Pattaya Palace was as empty as I've ever seen last night at 830 pm.
Maybe it's possible to get a Hottie off hours at 1 k baht.
Right across at Jacks I couldn't gauge the crowd it was me and another guy. Since it's always like that I don't know if that is Condlsidered busy.
[QUOTE=Chicken25;2915774]A lot of great reports here but everywhere seems to be 45-60 mins away from the airport. I have a 4. 5 HR layover in BKK and was wondering if they are any BJ bars / brothels closer to the airport.
Any help would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Whilst it can be done and people do it, I think you know your answer already.
If your trip is job related, best route would probably be try and come up with an excuse for having to stay longer, at least overnight. I have told my work due to my age, I need to break up the long haul flights with a night in-between, that I can't manage the excessive load on the body. It worked and was no issue with my employer once I approached (bull shitted) the subject.
With 4. 5 hours, you aren't going to enjoy things, your flight could be delayed, you can't say for certain how long immigration control will take, traffic to BKK and possibly more importantly back out to the airport can be uncertain, checking yourself back in through security at the airport. The list of unknown variables could be extended. Way to much stress!
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2915656]I didn't say it hasn't increased, it just has been silly in the increases. 1 K 30 years ago, 2500 K now. Not even counting exchange rates, etc.[/QUOTE]30 years! Come on. It's a working life length for some. What about your salary 30 years ago and now?
What is a Pina, brother? I get TF is ThaiFriendly but not sure what you meant by Pina.
[QUOTE=FortyDrinks;2915972]Pattaya Palace was as empty as I've ever seen last night at 830 pm.
Maybe it's possible to get a Hottie off hours at 1 k baht.
Right across at Jacks I couldn't gauge the crowd it was me and another guy. Since it's always like that I don't know if that is Condlsidered busy.[/QUOTE]Honestly, Billboard is packed every night, I have to admit it's a good place to get a drink. The music is good and DJ even puts some oldschool rap around midnight.
Even NEP is packed but the people are mostly wandering between each shops, except for Billboard which is even hard to find a good place.
[QUOTE=BionicMan;2916001]30 years! Come on. It's a working life length for some. What about your salary 30 years ago and now?[/QUOTE]I'm retired now. My salary was pretty good 30 years ago.
It has been long I was here. I went to the BKK trip on August 2023. I haven't had time to write my visit. So, I was mainly into Uzbek Girl, and I only visited the disco, MIXX Disco. The crowed was not good at all, and very less talent there. It use to be a haven for people like us, but I only saw 3 or 4 decent Uzbek lady there. I went there three days in total but bust in all of them. I am planning next visit in July 2024, Lets see anything changes or not. If not I need to find a new destination for me.
[QUOTE=Fasbiranwar1;2916145]It has been long I was here. I went to the BKK trip on August 2023. I haven't had time to write my visit. So, I was mainly into Uzbek Girl, and I only visited the disco, MIXX Disco. The crowed was not good at all, and very less talent there. It use to be a haven for people like us, but I only saw 3 or 4 decent Uzbek lady there. I went there three days in total but bust in all of them. I am planning next visit in July 2024, Lets see anything changes or not. If not I need to find a new destination for me.[/QUOTE]What was wrong with the Uzbek girls? Did ya chat with any?
Is there a particular area or street of Central BKK where one can find ample massage shops? I'm speaking of the typical oil / feet massage shops that tend to offer a little extra (HJ, BJ). To me it seems as though they are simply scattered about without any concentration in one specific area.
Is there any site like TFMI where people has pointed out FLs from TF, and I can read reviews there?
Or can anyone tell if there's a way to read review in TFMI. Since I don't use that pattaya website which grants review access.
[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2916288]Is there a particular area or street of Central BKK where one can find ample massage shops? I'm speaking of the typical oil / feet massage shops that tend to offer a little extra (HJ, BJ). To me it seems as though they are simply scattered about without any concentration in one specific area.[/QUOTE]You can try Royal Massage Bkk.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2915308]The oilies are making a bit of a comeback here in Bangkok.[/QUOTE]The problem is they are not safe anymore.
There are at least two shops employing each at least one post op LB in their line up and not telling the customer when the customer pick them up.
It might be a new trend and others might follow them too.
I don't normally visit Thailand in the middle of the year but will be back in Bangkok at the end of the month.
I like the concept of gogo bars, but historically prefer AC, as they are a bit easier on the ear drums and less crowded. Will I notice a significant reduction in how crowded the gogo's are compared to my last visit in December?
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2916378]The problem is they are not safe anymore.
There are at least two shops employing each at least one post op LB in their line up and not telling the customer when the customer pick them up.
It might be a new trend and others might follow them too.[/QUOTE]Where have you seen this?
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2916452]Where have you seen this?[/QUOTE]Boss massage, girl's name: Soda (A+).
Aurora33 on soi 33, girl's name: Nancy (pics included).
For the first one, I read it a few months ago on another board and it's been confirmed by many members in that board (pics were on their website at that time, they are not anymore, but she looked very plastic girl).
For the second, I experienced it myself Saturday, and I can tell with certainty that she is a postop. I've been too long to realize it and by the time I got down (around 20 minutes after getting in the room), mamasan denied it theatrically and refused to refund me.
I'll later write a report about that sh*t experience.
[QUOTE=Fasbiranwar1;2916145]It has been long I was here. I went to the BKK trip on August 2023. I haven't had time to write my visit. So, I was mainly into Uzbek Girl, and I only visited the disco, MIXX Disco. The crowed was not good at all, and very less talent there. It use to be a haven for people like us, but I only saw 3 or 4 decent Uzbek lady there. I went there three days in total but bust in all of them. I am planning next visit in July 2024, Lets see anything changes or not. If not I need to find a new destination for me.[/QUOTE]Why are you looking for Uzbeks in Thailand? One comes to Thailand for Thai girls. If you want to get Uzbek girls come to Dubai or Abudhabi. The best ones go to these places. Infact there are many Spas in Abudhabi who have only Uzbek girls.
[QUOTE=BionicMan;2916001]30 years! Come on. It's a working life length for some. What about your salary 30 years ago and now?[/QUOTE]Yeah, that's his point. The going rate for girls hasn't actually kept up with the salary increases in the west, hence why you see more and more guys being willing to meet the price increases that the girls request. It's why I don't buy all of the complaining over price increases because yes, the price of girls over the past ten years has gone up by 1000 baht or 100 k colombian pesos (30-100 USD) but my salary has doubled, as has the salary of most of the middle class.
The only people getting squeezed by the price increases are poor, fixed-income retirees and poor, working-class folks. There are still many options available for them in Bangkok or anywhere else, but I do understand that it sucks to get priced out of the specific market that was open to them before the influx of richer people pushed them out. I still think the prices in the massage shops should be accessible to every monger who comes to Bangkok and those girls are still pretty good, but it does seem like the prime agency / online girls may be shifting upward.
[QUOTE=JoeKarnavic;2916460]Why are you looking for Uzbeks in Thailand? One comes to Thailand for Thai girls. If you want to get Uzbek girls come to Dubai or Abudhabi. The best ones go to these places. Infact there are many Spas in Abudhabi who have only Uzbek girls.[/QUOTE]He's looking for one for the same reason that I look for them, variation. No normal human being wants to go to Dubai or Abu Dhabi or any place they can chop your head off if they want.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2916456]Post-ops working in oillies[/QUOTE]1 and 3 are obvious just from a photo. Photo 2 gives LB vibes but I wouldn't make the call with 100% certainty until I meet her. Photo does hint wide shoulders but maybe she's a Lifeguard or played tennis. I'd lean to LB but I also know gogo dancers who look like her.
Looking plastic is not my determination on LB. I don't mind that look. Think kpop stars.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2916488]1 and 3 are obvious just from a photo. Photo 2 gives LB vibes but I wouldn't make the call with 100% certainty until I meet her. Photo does hint wide shoulders but maybe she's a Lifeguard or played tennis. I'd lean to LB but I also know gogo dancers who look like her.[/QUOTE]I didn't see these pics before going there, I put them here just to let everybody know who I'm talking about.
I chose her in a lineup where they were supposed to show me only real girls. I didn't thought of all these kind of red flags at that moment.
She is very tall, I realized it in the shower. I'm 175 and she was just as tall as I am. This is very unusual for a Thai woman.
Yes her shoulders are wide, hips are wide too (but not the kind we see on the obvious ladyboys), but that person never played any sport in her life. You can see it very easily when you see her moving around.
And as I said, after retrospect, I have absolutely zero doubt that she is a ladyboy.
I plan on going back to BKK soon. Was there a few months ago, and love it.
Where else can I meet Eastern Euro girls? Is [URL]https://khunrose-escort.com/[/URL] legit? Looks too good to be true.
Also, in Dubai, they had Russian girls but they looked depressed and chained smoked. There was a female facilitator with good English, but the girls looked sex-trafficed and did not want to be there. I stayed away from them.
Also, does anyone know how to get with normal girls working in shops etc? The Hooters girls looked smoking hot but would not flirt at all. They knew the score. The Thermae girls are hot normal girls, but some are there every night almost like its a job. Getting a true normal girl would be fun. If I offered a normal girl 10 k to come to my room, I might get one, but it might be a bad time.
Hello mates.
Contribution to the forum by the senior members is amazing.
Arriving Bangkok next week after a gap of 4 years.
I am more of a pick up club kind of a person. Some of my friends who visited Bangkok recently tell me that Mixxx is not what it used to be.
Can anyone guide me if clubs like shock, levels still exist or any other club for some good looking Thai girls other than Tharmae.
Cheers.
After spending a few weeks in Pattaya, I visited Bangkok for a few days. Here's my experience, limited time-wise, using Pattaya as a base for comparisons.
Nana Plaza. In the entrance to the complex, all men are required to queue and go through a checkpoint of sorts. Some are required to show an ID. The whole place is full of gogos. On weekdays, they were pretty much empty, and disappointingly similar to the run-of-the-mill gogos in Pattaya. Only Billboard was full. I'm not sure why it's so popular, but there was no pressure or even expectation to buy LDs. New customers are offered to sit next to the stage, but are then told to move away. It's the bar's policy to always keep one or two seats next to the stage empty to lure newcomers.
I barfined a girl from a gogo on the ground floor. She seemed to really like me, and I decided to give it a go. The whole way back to the hotel the girl (31 year old) was totally tensed up, I felt nothing good is going to come out of it. I tried hard to have her relax (for 45 minutes in total.), it did help a bit. But service was still atrocious. Once she realized I've given up on having a good experience and just thinking of how to finish the session, she started trying harder, but that was way too late. Things like this do happen in Pattaya, but mainly in beer bars. A 2/10.
All in all I have no reason to go back to Nana, not unless Pattaya disappears.
Soi Cowboy. Went there around 8 PM and 10 PM, the bars I had pre-selected had no customers whatsoever, so I skipped them.
Pat-pong. The World Bar (aka Linda Bar) is still alive and kicking, although may be a tad difficult to find. The ladies are 5 or perhaps 6/10 max, but in the bar anything goes. Worth a visit, but Lips Lounge Soi Honey in Pattaya offers a similar yet better experience IMHO, including better looking ladies. I also visited a King's Castle in Patpong (I don't know which one), another typical gogo, but the girls were forbidden to initiate contact with a customer (through conversation or even gestures).
Wood Bar. Took a 1000 THB girl (I think she was half-African or something) and the experience was OK, but a bit like being sucked off by some type of machinery. No eye contact, it got better when I started setting the rithm by gently pushing her head down. Perhaps I should have chosen a fatter and less attractive girl, they try harder. Still, totally acceptable experience.
I skipped the soapies, tried them a few years back (they were OK). And I did not try throwing money around in PIMP.
Final verdict: It's good if your main focus is tourism (70-80% of time). If you're mainly about mongering, stay in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Pepriko;2916587]Hello mates.
Contribution to the forum by the senior members is amazing.
Arriving Bangkok next week after a gap of 4 years.
I am more of a pick up club kind of a person. Some of my friends who visited Bangkok recently tell me that Mixxx is not what it used to be.
Can anyone guide me if clubs like shock, levels still exist or any other club for some good looking Thai girls other than Tharmae.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]RTFF Mixx or nothing.
I spent some time in Billboard for 3 or 4 nights in a raw last week. Although their girls are not particularly good looking I found the place to be good to go and get a drink. I feel more relax there than in any other places in the NEP.
During that time I slowly started scrutinizing one of their girls, and started taking a liking for her.
Funny thing is I've not seen her being called or barfined even once during that time, even after midnight, when there are fewer girls on the stage. She looks so shy, never making an eye contact with nobody, though I could see her at times briefly watching some younger dudes, mostly Asian guys.
She's the kind of girls that had obvious surgeries on her face, like very obvious nose job, or lips job, probably boobs also but her body looks real good to me. Maybe other guys are scared that she might be an LB, I don't know.
Sweet heart doesn't even get down to catch the 20 bahts bills thrown from time to time by big spenders, I love that attitude.
One reason I never called her over is I always find myself stuck in one of the tables in the middle of the bar which makes any gropping very difficult. Every other guys calling over a girl in that area find themselves stuck with the girl sitting or standing next to them with absolutely zero action, just some very basic talks or dance moves. Even for guys paying drinks after drinks, I never saw them getting anything in exchange. I didn't really see the point of doing this.
Eventually Friday night I got there with the intention of calling her over for drinks, at least to hear the sound of her voice and learn some basic things about her.
By the time I got inside, the bar was more packed than the previous nights and I had a hard time finding a place to sit. I could spot her standing next to the entrance door with some of her co-workers, waiting for her shift on the stage, not far from a table of three guys. My seat was just next to these guys.
At that point I was wondering if I should call her over right now or wait for her to go back on stage before calling her.
Next thing I know is she was standing at the table of these three guys. I couldn't believe my eyes, the moment I decided to call her over, someone else took a liking for her. To make matters worse, they pulled the trigger and barfined her after one drink.
I could still gather some interesting information. Sweet heart didn't look shy anymore in the middle of these guys. She was pointing the number two with her fingers and said ok I can do that, which I believed was her accepting to be jumped by two of these guys (the other one already settled on another girl and didn't participate in the talks whith her). When she came back, she had a classy dress on, and a heavy hand on a very strong perfume that would have given me a big headache for the whole night if I took her for ST. I could see the guy handing her over loads of bills, probably more than ten 1 K bills, excluding the drinks and barfines that had been paid separately.
The other thing is these guys found themselves rounded by loads of waitresses and mamasans requesting them some tips. These poor guys were clearly newbies, they reluctantly gave 100 bahts bills to all these people, more than 1 K just in tips.
Eventually, they left with her and the other girl, which can be an indication that the plan was indeed for two of the guys to jump on her alone.
Moral of the story, tell sweet heart to have a weak hand on the perfume the moment you barfine her.
Don't get yourself confused by signs of her being shy or inexperienced.
Don't be as slow as I was once you decided on calling her over, she might be called by someone else at any time even if she is not popular.
And last but not least, don't give tips to every people requesting one, just one to the mamasan and to 1 or 2 waitresses who serviced you should be enough, and not necessarily 100 bahts bills to everyone, 20 bahts or 50 bahts bills can do it too.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2916456]Boss massage, girl's name: Soda (A+).
Aurora33 on soi 33, girl's name: Nancy (pics included).
For the first one, I read it a few months ago on another board and it's been confirmed by many members in that board (pics were on their website at that time, they are not anymore, but she looked very plastic girl).
For the second, I experienced it myself Saturday, and I can tell with certainty that she is a postop. I've been too long to realize it and by the time I got down (around 20 minutes after getting in the room), mamasan denied it theatrically and refused to refund me.
I'll later write a report about that sh*t experience.[/QUOTE]That's very disturbing that they would try to pass off a post-op as a gal. Not cool at all.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2916685]That's very disturbing that they would try to pass off a post-op as a gal. Not cool at all.[/QUOTE]Agree but in Thailand aren't post-ops considered a girl where a ladyboy is considered a guy?
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2916487]He's looking for one for the same reason that I look for them, variation. No normal human being wants to go to Dubai or Abu Dhabi or any place they can chop your head off if they want.[/QUOTE]They chop heads off in Dubai? LOL.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2916716]Agree but in Thailand aren't post-ops considered a girl where a ladyboy is considered a guy?[/QUOTE]I was under the opposite impression. If you were born male, your Thai ID will always say male. Maybe somebody can provide a link that proves it one way or the other.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2916744]I was under the opposite impression. If you were born male, your Thai ID will always say male. Maybe somebody can provide a link that proves it one way or the other.[/QUOTE]I did a google search on "Thailand ID card gender", but the link is about 5 lines long and I couldn't successfully copy it to this forum. Here is the most important text:
"... some Thai ID documents include the prefixes Mr. , Miss, or Mrs. As part of a first name. .... The card's title corresponds to an individual's sex assigned at birth".
This is consistent with every Thai ID card that I've ever read, and I read most of them before giving it to hotel reception.
Hello all, I am currently In the land of smiles, the land of milk and honey, the Adult Disney World, or so I thought. A bit of backstory: I'm 36, blk, US Navy Sailor, and two years away from retirement. Before heading my final command, I decided to spend my transfer leave looking at different areas of the Philippines and Thailand for pote, ntial landing situations post retirement. I also figured ID kill two birds with one stone and get a little action in. After a successful week in Manila touring condos in Makati and BGC, and having to beat the ladies off with a stick, I made my way to Bangkok. First day was spent getting a signature spring massage at spring spa. Great deep massage from a portly old lady. I then toured a few apartments and dropped by Lolitas on soi 8. The girl was cute enough, but she failed to get the ole trouser snake to spit (I blame the young lady in Manila who went to town on me the previous evening.) I Called it a day after dinner and hit the room. The next day (yesterday) I toured more condos and did a tour of what Arun, lovely place, loved the history. Last night is where things got a bit sour. I'm staying on soi 11, so I decided to check out thermae. Now I'm not conceited, but I do consider myself to be a conventionally attractive individual. 5'11,230 lbs, muscular, with a six pack of and and well groomed / dressed. Also, from what I've been told, a very nice smile. I have never had an issue with the ladies in the you. S, or otherwise. Until last night. I got a beer and made a lap around the room and you would have thought I had a face tattoo that said AIDS on my forehead! Not a single lady in the room would even meet my gaze. I grabbed a second beer and talked to an older guy in a corner who told me to come back later as there would be more talent after 11 pm. I decided to walk the Sois and see what I could find. It was a bit wet out last night, but the streets were still packed. I think I discovered a cheat code on how to spot a ladyboy! As I was walking the ladyboys who were obviously ladyboys all tried grabbing me and, or called me sexy as I walked by. Not going to lie, this gave my ego a bit of the boost it needed, but I like girl butt. Unfortunately, the actual women freelancers standing on the streets wouldn't even meet my eye. Not even the African chicks! (One African chick did grab my arm, but I'm not convinced she wasn't a dude. Hard pass.) Ok, so at this point my feelings are hurt. It's honestly not the first time in my life I've been in a similar situation, but getting turned down by hookers kinda stings a little. My feelings were hurt. I made my way back to thermae and the place was way more packed with women, but again, not a single one would even look at me. I sat down and just looked around and a fuckin geriatric, balding Asian guy was getting blinded by the beaming smiles as he passed, WTF?! I'm not dumb, I get it. Who wants a big black guy with stamina when you can have an old guy who may not even rise to the occasion. I know this, but damn, not a SINGLE option for me?! I leave for the second time and make my way back to the room. I make it a point to smile at every single chick I pass on the streets and again, I'm treated like a fuckin lepur. I remember my first port visit to Pattaya beach back in 07 like it was yesterday. I was serenaded with calls of chocolate man, so sexy, and I had no shortage of ladies ready and willing to take me on. My how times have changed. I could have probably had some luck at Nana plaza, but I don't really drink like that and I'm not too keen on paying that kind of money when I'll be back In the Philippines this weekend where it's either free, or very cheap. I guess the moral to this story is if you are a relatively young, fit black guy in Bangkok, you may be in for a bad time. Not sure if the same applies to young white guys because I ddn't see very many out last night. If you're Asian, or I shit you not, a white guy who looks like the penguin from Batman returns in a fuckin mobility scooter, you will be a kid in a candy store.
[QUOTE=TomJones06;2916983]Hello all, I am currently In the land of smiles, the land of milk and honey, the Adult Disney World, or so I thought.[/QUOTE]Many of us get the cold shoulder from Thermae girls. If you are still in town tonight, try looking for freelancers on Soi 4 after about 9:00 PM. When you find someone you like, suggest you spring for either a 300 baht short time room (the girl can find it) or a tuk tuk to your room on Soi 11. One of the deaf freelancers on Soi 4 once rejected me because I wanted to walk to Soi 11. Get the tuk tuk from the "odd" side of Sukhumvit directly across from Soi 4, I normally offer 100 baht, but usually end up paying 150 baht.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2917035]Many of us get the cold shoulder from Thermae girls. If you are still in town tonight, try looking for freelancers on Soi 4 after about 9:00 PM. When you find someone you like, suggest you spring for either a 300 baht short time room (the girl can find it) or a tuk tuk to your room on Soi 11. One of the deaf freelancers on Soi 4 once rejected me because I wanted to walk to Soi 11. Get the tuk tuk from the "odd" side of Sukhumvit directly across from Soi 4, I normally offer 100 baht, but usually end up paying 150 baht.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the advice, but I am over Bangkok at this point. I'm spending the day getting massage after massage and tomorrow I have a tattoo appointment. Friday I fly back to the Philippines where things make sense!
[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2916738]They chop heads off in Dubai? LOL.[/QUOTE]No its hyperbole, but its still not the type of place I want to let me hair down, rip off the bong, etc.
Hello Gentleman,
In a week from now, I will be making my first trip to thailand. Will be in Bangkok for 2 days. Need some basic pointers regarding the best way to score some good Thai / foreigner girls. Should I rely on smocci, etc. Is there any better site? I just want to be sure since I have less time at hand and want to make the best of it. Also, should I risk searching on streets or plan in advance. I'll also be visiting Pattaya for 2 days. Any pointers for there will also be appreciated. Thak you so much to all. This forum is indeed a treasure.
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[QUOTE=IronMan0402;2917091]Hello Gentleman,
In a week from now, I will be making my first trip to thailand. Will be in Bangkok for 2 days. Need some basic pointers regarding the best way to score some good Thai / foreigner girls. Should I rely on smocci, etc. Is there any better site? I just want to be sure since I have less time at hand and want to make the best of it. Also, should I risk searching on streets or plan in advance. I'll also be visiting Pattaya for 2 days. Any pointers for there will also be appreciated. Thak you so much to all. This forum is indeed a treasure.[/QUOTE]I would suggest reading the forum, and then ask specific questions about specific reports.
[QUOTE=IronMan0402;2917091]Hello Gentleman,
In a week from now, I will be making my first trip to thailand. Will be in Bangkok for 2 days. Need some basic pointers regarding the best way to score some good Thai / foreigner girls. Should I rely on smocci, etc. Is there any better site? I just want to be sure since I have less time at hand and want to make the best of it. Also, should I risk searching on streets or plan in advance. I'll also be visiting Pattaya for 2 days. Any pointers for there will also be appreciated. Thak you so much to all. This forum is indeed a treasure.[/QUOTE]For a newbie with two days, I'd spend my afternoon around Sukhumvit Soi 24, and my evenings at Nana Plaza, 2 or 3 girls a day will be formality. If you want to feed your wet dreams have a look at a web site called Thai Friendly. It is a dating site but many, hookers part time or full time, use it to drum up some business. Have fun guessing who's who there. I wouldn't contact any girl, unless you can meet her within 24 hours, their time is precious and the resent wasting it. If you don't like guessing google TFMI dot FTW.
[QUOTE=TomJones06;2916983] I guess the moral to this story is if you are a relatively young, fit black guy in Bangkok, you may be in for a bad time. Not sure if the same applies to young white guys because I ddn't see very many out last night. If you're Asian, or I shit you not, a white guy who looks like the penguin from Batman returns in a fuckin mobility scooter, you will be a kid in a candy store.[/QUOTE]The attitude of Thai hookers has deteriorated as fast as tattoos and fake boobs have increased. Thai's are among the most racist people in SE Asia (not as bad as Koreans though), this has become more prevalent as Korean pop culture has taken over Asia and displaced Hollywood. Now everyone wants guys who look like members of Korean boy bands or TV soaps. Whites are second and anyone with pigmentation is the bottom of the barrel. You will be far better off in Phils (but not AC) or Indonesia even to find less jaded girls with better attitudes. In Bangkok I stick to established MPs where I know I am welcome and get consistent good GFE service. I'm not paying to fuck some stuck up Thai hooker providing her best DFE.
It wasn't always like this of course. I've had some of the most crazy amazing sexual experiences of my life in Bangkok but things change.
[QUOTE=IronMan0402;2917091]Hello Gentleman,
In a week from now, I will be making my first trip to thailand. Will be in Bangkok for 2 days. Need some basic pointers regarding the best way to score some good Thai / foreigner girls. Should I rely on smocci, etc. Is there any better site? I just want to be sure since I have less time at hand and want to make the best of it. Also, should I risk searching on streets or plan in advance. I'll also be visiting Pattaya for 2 days. Any pointers for there will also be appreciated. Thak you so much to all. This forum is indeed a treasure.[/QUOTE]As the others say for a first timer in BKK you want to not waste time and plan your time wisely. Don't forget between the traffic, the heat (if you are not used to it) the travel etc, it can get pretty exhausting even if you are young and fit.
Massage shops during the day for sure, rather than waste time trying to hook some fish on the likes of TF or Fiwfans (compete waste of time for short stay first timers) if you want reliable escorts for your hotel room, I'd suggest Bangkok golden escorts. There used to be about 6-7 good quality escort agencies in BKK but there was a big raid / police clamp down last Autumn, Golden escorts seems to be the only one still working on a reliable basis.
Smooci is a good option too, it's not as good as it used to be before the raids, I'd recommend the premium membership for your stay and then you'll get a good idea of the "regulars" and a sense of who to avoid as much as who to book.
Enjoy!
[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2917292]The attitude of Thai hookers has deteriorated as fast as tattoos and fake boobs have increased. Thai's are among the most racist people in SE Asia (not as bad as Koreans though), this has become more prevalent as Korean pop culture has taken over Asia and displaced Hollywood. Now everyone wants guys who look like members of Korean boy bands or TV soaps. Whites are second and anyone with pigmentation is the bottom of the barrel. You will be far better off in Phils (but not AC) or Indonesia even to find less jaded girls with better attitudes. In Bangkok I stick to established MPs where I know I am welcome and get consistent good GFE service. I'm not paying to fuck some stuck up Thai hooker providing her best DFE.
It wasn't always like this of course. I've had some of the most crazy amazing sexual experiences of my life in Bangkok but things change.[/QUOTE]I believe it bro. I knew the Koreans were racist, I don't like them either, so no love lost there, but my previous forays into Thailand were all great. Hell I was in BKK back in 2016 and had a blast. Not sure what they hell happened, but not a fan. I don't believe I'll be returning anytime soon. I like the Philippines better anyway. I still need to make my way to Indonesia, I've heard nothing but good things. The fact that it's a Muslim country has kept me away all these years. (Nothing against Muslims, I just assumed they wouldn't be big on hooking up due to their religious beliefs.).
[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2917292]The attitude of Thai hookers has deteriorated as fast as tattoos and fake boobs have increased. Thai's are among the most racist people in SE Asia (not as bad as Koreans though), this has become more prevalent as Korean pop culture has taken over Asia and displaced Hollywood. Now everyone wants guys who look like members of Korean boy bands or TV soaps. Whites are second and anyone with pigmentation is the bottom of the barrel. You will be far better off in Phils (but not AC) or Indonesia even to find less jaded girls with better attitudes. In Bangkok I stick to established MPs where I know I am welcome and get consistent good GFE service. I'm not paying to fuck some stuck up Thai hooker providing her best DFE.
It wasn't always like this of course. I've had some of the most crazy amazing sexual experiences of my life in Bangkok but things change.[/QUOTE]I love Roboboobs, Enjoy Jakarta, smoke a bowl while you are there. Bangkok? More for me. Old American dudes rule, ooooooorah!
Its been reported on another forum that Marcel, the old Admin of the Nanaplaza Board has passed away in Bangkok. I'm sure some of you guys here remember him.
[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2917292]The attitude of Thai hookers has deteriorated as fast as tattoos and fake boobs have increased. Thai's are among the most racist people in SE Asia (not as bad as Koreans though), this has become more prevalent as Korean pop culture has taken over Asia and displaced Hollywood. Now everyone wants guys who look like members of Korean boy bands or TV soaps. Whites are second and anyone with pigmentation is the bottom of the barrel.
.[/QUOTE]Could you go deeper on this?
Are you saying Thai hookers prefer Koreans first? Or they prefer korean boy bank look over caucasians?
I thought they prefer older rich white guys since money talks?
Thanks!
Anyone know where to go if you want to get some deepthroat or throat fucking action in Bangkok, most thai girls I have been with only suck the tip.
[QUOTE=MassageLover81;2917586]Could you go deeper on this?
Are you saying Thai hookers prefer Koreans first? Or they prefer korean boy bank look over caucasians?
I thought they prefer older rich white guys since money talks?
Thanks![/QUOTE]Korean culture due to Kpop, Korean dramas and movies and Korean social media personalities has taken over Asian culture as a whole in the last decade. Both Asian men and women like the pale white skin, black hair look of the typical famous Korean. Being with a Korean is more of a status symbol now than being with a Caucasian.
Koreans that go and monger in Thailand aren't poor. It's a short flight, they can do weekend or one week trips and let it rain on the ladies. It's different than the rest of us coming from the West on a 30 plus hour trek and staying longer in Thailand and therefore being tighter with the wallet.
So if a Thai working girl can get money and status from a Korean, she's going to take that over a farang, especially old farangs.
The class order in a Thai girl's mind:
Korean.
Caucasian Westerner.
Brown dudes that aren't Indian.
Then at the bottom of what they desire are darker skins.
Yes, in Asian cultures, light skin is seen as better than dark skin. It is what it is. If anyone knows or has friends that are Thai, simply ask them and you will find out.
[QUOTE=Zizilijas;2917597]Anyone know where to go if you want to get some deepthroat or throat fucking action in Bangkok, most thai girls I have been with only suck the tip.[/QUOTE]You need different girls then. Ask and pay for it.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2917633]You need different girls then. Ask and pay for it.[/QUOTE]Is there a thai slang for it, when I try to ask them they just seem very confused.
[QUOTE=Zizilijas;2917597]Anyone know where to go if you want to get some deepthroat or throat fucking action in Bangkok, most thai girls I have been with only suck the tip.[/QUOTE]You could use the filter function on Smooci to identify girls that offer this service. Alternatively go to somewhere like Tulip.
Anybody here been to Saphan Kwai lately? It has been a decade since I was there last. Not because I didn't enjoy it. I have been there only a few times with an expat who was working in BKK at the time. A week would not go by that he didn't rescue some damsel from Cowboy or Nana Plaza at least 4 nights per week. But he'd sometimes get an itch to head to Saphan Kwai. Saphan Kwai is a less glitzy version of Cowboy. Bars are generally larger. Bars are aimed at the Thai guys. But farang are welcomed.
[URL]https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=mcafee&p=saphan[/URL]+kwai+go+go+bar&type=E210 US105 G0#ID=1&vid=05 de8 a22 ed9 b0 fc050 a1389 b056 f0 cf5&action=click.
Here's an old report from Stickman. [URL]https://www.stickmanbangkok.com/weekly-column/2009/03/saphan-kwai-buffalo-safari/[/URL].
Sam.
Just curious to know which is cheaper for mongering between Thailand and Vietnam. What I mean is where would a young girl who is an 8 in terms of beauty would be cheaper between Vietnam and Thailand?
Also it might come down to personal preference but who do you find prettier between a Thai and a Vietnamese.
And finally in general where between the two countries mongering is the easiest with very little hassle and overall between the two which countries' girls offer a better experience?
[QUOTE=OldJack;2917671]Just curious to know which is cheaper for mongering between Thailand and Vietnam. What I mean is where would a young girl who is an 8 in terms of beauty would be cheaper between Vietnam and Thailand?
Also it might come down to personal preference but who do you find prettier between a Thai and a Vietnamese.
And finally in general where between the two countries mongering is the easiest with very little hassle and overall between the two which countries' girls offer a better experience?[/QUOTE]I think that hotels in Vietnam are reluctant to allow loose women on the premises.
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2917676]I think that hotels in Vietnam are reluctant to allow loose women on the premises.[/QUOTE]I think they tell you the hotel where you can book a room and share the room number and they usually come there in some time.
My first time in Asia been in the monger game for a while mostly DR since I turned 18 and could travel now I'm bored of seeing the same thing for 7 years my first time to Asia I booked a ticket I want to land in Thailand for a feel days go to in Indonesia, Philippines, and maybe Cambodia, then return to Thailand will I need to get a visa on my return trip to Thailand? I got 30 day free visa I want to stay in Asia for 24 days might extend to 31 days but only thailand for maybe 2 weeks-ish I don't want them to think I'm going to other country's to avoid the visa exception. I will have a return ticket booked and leave that day I just know it's cheaper to fly to Thailand than to fly around Asia but I don't want to get banned from Asia like some of these youtuber claim as anyone had experience of flying into Thailand monger around Asia than return to Thailand for about before flying back home any problems? I'm talking recently any help would help thanks guys hoping to keeping you posted in my Asia travels.
I'm visiting Bangkok on June 12. Hoping to bang some hot Thai MILFS, any leads would be appreciated this is my first visit so haven't got a clue on this front.
[QUOTE=OldJack;2917671]Just curious to know which is cheaper for mongering between Thailand and Vietnam. What I mean is where would a young girl who is an 8 in terms of beauty would be cheaper between Vietnam and Thailand?
Also it might come down to personal preference but who do you find prettier between a Thai and a Vietnamese.
And finally in general where between the two countries mongering is the easiest with very little hassle and overall between the two which countries' girls offer a better experience?[/QUOTE]Looks are subjective, but what is pretty objective is that Thailand is NO hassle mongering, and Vietnam is very Hi if you wish to bring someone to your hotel. Pattaya is very cheap in all ways.
[URL]https://tfmi.wtf/[/URL]
Ref the 'narrow down choices' option on the above site:
I can guess what A+, LB, 3 & PO mean, but what about +, FT and M?
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2917998][URL]https://tfmi.wtf/[/URL]
Ref the 'narrow down choices' option on the above site:
I can guess what A+, LB, 3 & PO mean, but what about +, FT and M?[/QUOTE]Has anyone tried? Are most of these pics filtered? Or did you find that the pics are pretty accurate?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=MassageLover81;2918018]Has anyone tried? Are most of these pics filtered? Or did you find that the pics are pretty accurate?
Thanks![/QUOTE]FT. Fake tits.
M. Massage.
+ = 'other services on offer maybe'.
Usually if you become a member, there will be at least a review to verify the above.
What I have noticed on the master index that doesn't seem to update often is, some list as Ladyboys but on their TF profile there is zero mention of that fact. Buyer beware.
[QUOTE=OldJack;2917671]Just curious to know which is cheaper for mongering between Thailand and Vietnam. What I mean is where would a young girl who is an 8 in terms of beauty would be cheaper between Vietnam and Thailand?
Also it might come down to personal preference but who do you find prettier between a Thai and a Vietnamese.
And finally in general where between the two countries mongering is the easiest with very little hassle and overall between the two which countries' girls offer a better experience?[/QUOTE]Vietnam is not really a mongering spot in any way compared to Thailand. The two are in different universes. Thats really all there is to say about it.
[QUOTE=MassageLover81;2918018]Has anyone tried? Are most of these pics filtered? Or did you find that the pics are pretty accurate?
Thanks![/QUOTE]The profiles are just taken from their TF accounts, so I guess they are reasonably accurate.
[QUOTE=GrapeMan;2918043]Vietnam is not really a mongering spot in any way compared to Thailand. The two are in different universes. Thats really all there is to say about it.[/QUOTE]As GrapeMan says, anyone who thinks they can go to Vietnam for a week and knock it out of the park with lots of hot girls needs to rethink their plans. Other than Linh Cherry Spa in Little Japan where FS is guaranteed with an 8, it's the long game with almost any girl in HCMC. Don't even think about banging a Little Japan bar girl unless you've just spent a small fortune on her, are young and good looking and someone she would date IRL, and / or you're as funny as fuck. They will all ask you for dinner within an hour of meeting you but only maybe 1% will follow through with what they say. Imo if they ask you out it's a sign they're a shark. If you are around long or often enough you will meet some pretty nice girls to go out with for no money, That applies to any country in SEA I guess.
Now if you're only an online guy which I'm not, Gaito is likely better than TF and other Thai options. Learning a bit of Vietnamese helps but again that applies to learning a bit of the language in any Asian country you go to, the biggest example would be Japan.
Imo for ease of getting girls go to PP, Jakarta, Thailand, and PI where there is a very small learning curve. If anyone tells me they went to HCMC for the first time and just smashed it out of the park with bar girls from Little Japan or Pasteur I know those are fantasized statements unless again you spent A LOT, are around the girl's age, and are someone they would date IRL.
I just spent a short 2 days there and yes I walked around Little Japan and Pasteur but I only had eyes for 2 young cute regular girls. They're both in the top 5 looking girls I've met in Vietnam and they're generally decent girls who don't expect anything from me other than to buy them some food.
As for looks, the top 1% of girls I see in Little Japan and a lesser extent Pasteur are better looking than the top 1% of working girls in Thailand.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy101;2917824]I want to land in Thailand for a feel days go to in Indonesia, Philippines, and maybe Cambodia, then return to Thailand will I need to get a visa on my return trip to Thailand? I got 30 day free visa I want to stay in Asia for 24 days might extend to 31 days but only thailand for maybe 2 weeks-ish[/QUOTE]You'll have no issues with getting back in to Thailand if you go for a week, go to other countries, and return to Thailand for your return flight home within your 30 day Visa. Lots of people do this cause they need to catch their return flight home. You will get a new 30 day Visa upon re-entry to Thailand.
Thailand cares about a couple of things. 1. DO NOT Overstay! Don't stay over your 30 day Visa. Do not stay in Thailand more than 180 days in a 1 year period. Maybe not 90 days in half a year either? 2. Make sure you can prove you have a flight out of Thailand before your Visa expires. This goes for most countries anyways. 3. if your IO is a real jerk, you will need to show proof or where you are staying in Thailand.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2918083]As GrapeMan says, anyone who thinks they can go to Vietnam for a week and knock it out of the park with lots of hot girls needs to rethink their plans. Other than Linh Cherry Spa in Little Japan where FS is guaranteed with an 8, it's the long game with almost any girl in HCMC. Don't even think about banging a Little Japan bar girl unless you've just spent a small fortune on her, are young and good looking and someone she would date IRL, and / or you're as funny as fuck. They will all ask you for dinner within an hour of meeting you but only maybe 1% will follow through with what they say. Imo if they ask you out it's a sign they're a shark. If you are around long or often enough you will meet some pretty nice girls to go out with for no money, That applies to any country in SEA I guess.
Now if you're only an online guy which I'm not, Gaito is likely better than TF and other Thai options. Learning a bit of Vietnamese helps but again that applies to learning a bit of the language in any Asian country you go to, the biggest example would be Japan.
Imo for ease of getting girls go to PP, Jakarta, Thailand, and PI where there is a very small learning curve. If anyone tells me they went to HCMC for the first time and just smashed it out of the park with bar girls from Little Japan or Pasteur I know those are fantasized statements unless again you spent A LOT, are around the girl's age, and are someone they would date IRL.
I just spent a short 2 days there and yes I walked around Little Japan and Pasteur but I only had eyes for 2 young cute regular girls. They're both in the top 5 looking girls I've met in Vietnam and they're generally decent girls who don't expect anything from me other than to buy them some food.
As for looks, the top 1% of girls I see in Little Japan and a lesser extent Pasteur are better looking than the top 1% of working girls in Thailand.[/QUOTE]Concur. I visited Vietnam ten times in seven years starting in 2009. What you say now even applied then. Although by the 5th or 6th trip I had some regulars there including some very busty ones. As for BKK it's still great after all these years. Had a girl met outside Nana earlier this year who weighed prolly 45 pounds and 10 of them were tits. She was great! Cheers, Mr. Banana and Mr. Grape.
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2917998][URL]https://tfmi.wtf/[/URL]
Ref the 'narrow down choices' option on the above site:
I can guess what A+, LB, 3 & PO mean, but what about +, FT and M?[/QUOTE]It seems like a crowdsource knowledge from another forum [URL]https://forum.pattaya-addicts.com/topic/322825-thaifriendly-master-index-post-profile-updates-here/?do=findComment&comment=4620627[/URL].
[QUOTE=PgReal;2918030]FT. Fake tits.
M. Massage.
+ = 'other services on offer maybe'.
Usually if you become a member, there will be at least a review to verify the above.
What I have noticed on the master index that doesn't seem to update often is, some list as Ladyboys but on their TF profile there is zero mention of that fact. Buyer beware.[/QUOTE]I had a couple of contacts on TF from good looking 'girls', who were advertised as female, but turned out to be ladyboys. They were honest and open that they were LB's and were happy to be fucked up the ass all night long.
I declined both offers.
Has anyone noticed the change in Bust size of the Rainbow Superstar.
Kind of looks like she did it.
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2918261]I had a couple of contacts on TF from good looking 'girls', who were advertised as female, but turned out to be ladyboys. They were honest and open that they were LB's and were happy to be fucked up the ass all night long.
I declined both offers.[/QUOTE]I'm curious, when did they tell you they were ladyboys? After you met up with them?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=JoeKarnavic;2916460]Why are you looking for Uzbeks in Thailand? One comes to Thailand for Thai girls. If you want to get Uzbek girls come to Dubai or Abudhabi. The best ones go to these places. Infact there are many Spas in Abudhabi who have only Uzbek girls.[/QUOTE]Seriously?. Can you give some more detail, where, how much it cost in Dubai. Please I will be grateful if you can give me some more detail about it.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2918071]Really? It wasn't like that last month could you give us some more details. Have a lady boys moved locations on the street? Why do you said the action was sporadic?[/QUOTE]I had a look in Thermae last week (maybe Friday a week ago around 11 h50) and it was packed. Both customers and women (some of them were looking quite old).
The LBs outside Thermae are still there.
But it's true the streetwalker along Suk from soi 3 to Mcdonalds Asoke are almost all LBs now, some nights there are a lot, some others less.
Nana is a disaster. In soi 4 almost all are looking like sh*t with plenty of Thai and Pino LBs, Africans, grandmas wearing hijab and Vietnamese with a few Thais.
NEP was dead last night. Except Billboard which has all their girls on stage every night (it seems), others had very few girls.
Saturday a week ago I had a great time in Geisha, the place was packed and they had at least 40 girls working.
Yesterday? 5 girls on stage, 2 resting outside and 6 door girls trying to lure customers in. Go figure.
Hi mates,
My friends and I are planning a trip to Bangkok in January. We're all coming from different countries and would appreciate some guidance. Could any seniors provide good contacts or recommendations to help make this the best trip ever? We can reciprocate with assistance in Australia, Chennai, or Bangalore.
Thanks! Cheers.
[QUOTE=MassageLover81;2918311]I'm curious, when did they tell you they were ladyboys? After you met up with them?
Thanks![/QUOTE]Never met up. They were open about being LB's while I was chatting to them on TF.
I've read about a VIP bus service from BKK to points beyond such as Pattaya or Hua Hin. They offer transport in a large, tinted-glass bus or limo, drinks, and the ride comes with 2 hostesses. There's no mystery that the hostesses are there to fuck / suck the passenger during the ride. Naturally the price isn't cheap. Can anyone provide a review? Devils Den offers this, and I imagine there are other companies. Sounds like a good way to spend my first few hours on the ground, and get to the beach!
I've read about a VIP bus service from BKK to points beyond such as Pattaya or Hua Hin. They offer transport in a large, tinted-glass bus or limo, drinks, and the ride comes with 2 hostesses. There's no mystery that the hostesses are there to fuck / suck the passenger during the ride. Naturally the price isn't cheap. Can anyone provide a review? Devils Den offers this, and I imagine there are other companies. Sounds like a good way to spend my first few hours on the ground, and get to the beach!
[QUOTE=XMen69;2918394]Hi mates,
My friends and I are planning a trip to Bangkok in January. We're all coming from different countries and would appreciate some guidance. Could any seniors provide good contacts or recommendations to help make this the best trip ever? We can reciprocate with assistance in Australia, Chennai, or Bangalore.
Thanks! Cheers.[/QUOTE]My first recommendation would be read The Forum.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2918083]As GrapeMan says, anyone who thinks they can go to Vietnam for a week and knock it out of the park with lots of hot girls needs to rethink their plans. Other than Linh Cherry Spa in Little Japan where FS is guaranteed with an 8, it's the long game with almost any girl in HCMC.
Now if you're only an online guy which I'm not, Gaito is likely better than TF and other Thai options. Learning a bit of Vietnamese helps but again that applies to learning a bit of the language in any Asian country you go to, the biggest example would be Japan.
I just spent a short 2 days there and yes I walked around Little Japan and Pasteur but I only had eyes for 2 young cute regular girls. They're both in the top 5 looking girls I've met in Vietnam and they're generally decent girls who don't expect anything from me other than to buy them some food.
As for looks, the top 1% of girls I see in Little Japan and a lesser extent Pasteur are better looking than the top 1% of working girls in Thailand.[/QUOTE]How much are the 8 girls at Cherry Spa in Little Japan?
How much time did you have to spend getting to know the 2 cute regular girls that are top 5 looking girls you met in Vietnam?
Thanks!
Just returned from a second trip to Bangkok in four months, after my first time in late December / early January. (You can track back to my first two reports from that time if you're interested). Wanted to share my experiences with the forum, as reading all the posts here really helped my planning during both trips.
About me: white, American but Swedish / Dutch lineage so blond hair, blue eyes, pale (which seems to matter with some of the light skin-obsessed girls), late 40's, in decent shape (not overweight anyway) but not exactly athlete material, but cleaned up, dressed decently, and at least friendly.
Was in BKK about 9 nights, but spent 7 out of those 9 with a girl I had hooked up with previously in January, a 19-year-old from Myanmar I stumbled across in one of the dingier massage parlors on Soi 24/1. (She was the youngest girl there by far; hell, her mom would probably be the second-youngest girl if she worked there). We'd kept in touch through WhatsApp since January, and I also found out her TikTok and IG accounts, too. Word to the wise: the good thing about discovering a Thai girl's social media accounts is that you can see what they're thinking and what they're into. The bad thing about discovering a Thai girl's social media accounts is that you can see what they're thinking and what they're into, LOL.
Though I was working most days and with Myanmar Girl most nights, I did have some time for nuru parlor visits and some freelancer experiences. First up was Maichan Massage off of the dead-end and quiet Soi 19, right next to Picasso but probably several steps down in terms of class. They cater to a Japanese crowd with their schoolgirl imagery, but had no problem with taking in a Westerner. According to the mamasan, most of their girls are from Northern Thailand and Chiang Mai, if that matters to anyone. There's no lineup there, you just talk with the mamasan (who's about 25? Who shows you some photos of who's available. Only three girls were at the time, two of whom looked rail thin, and since I like them a bit curvier I chose Kimiko, who at least was like her photos. Dressed in an odd business-schoolgirl outfit (collared untucked office shirt but with a plaid miniskirt and thick white socks? She was also pretty heavily tatted up, which isn't my favorite. I chose the Nuru option, 60 minutes, for 3000 baht; service was pretty good, but like a lot of Nuru girls she had a particular routine, and wasn't about to let some customer knock her off of it. That said, she was nice enough, and took the time to get me back on track after I lost my stride halfway through. Another note: the heat in Bangkok in March / April was a killer for me, and I had made the mistake of walking around in it a lot. I think heat exhaustion combined with lengthy and multiple sex sessions really messed me up, as I'd often lose an erection about halfway through every time. Overall, I don't think I'd repeat with Kimiko (the tats were a lot), or at Maichan, as I prefer choosing from a lineup instead of a photo book.
Second day I hit up Hunny Bunny BKK up along Soi 33, a classier street with a lot of stores, restaurants, and other parlors that mainly cater to a Japanese clientele. Again I made the mistake of walking 30 minutes to get there, and again I wound up with what was probably heat stroke halfway through my session with "Ann," a reasonably attractive woman with nice curves but a somewhat reconstructed face, and braces. (Her photos are on their website). She was for me the nicest looking girl there, but none that day were real stunners. Nuru for 60 minutes was 2800 baht, so 200 less than Maichan (weirdly, Maichan was the dumpiest space physically, but the most expensive for Nuru?) Again, she gave it her all and helped steer me away from death's door heatstroke-wise, but I don't know if I'd repeat. Hunny Bunny does provide a line-up, though, and many of the girls are already all out front, either in the lobby or even outside on their entry, happy to make eye contact and say Hello, so I would recommend it for first-timers. Some nice-looking girls on the website, but in person they were just okay, but at least they were friendly.
A final stop for my last night was Cherry Massage, a classic spot that's been around for a bit, off of Soi 22 Alley, next to Ola Ola Massage. Cherry is known for their website marking some girls as "A+". I naively thought that this meant those girls gave great, A+ service, but it actually means they are available for anal, if that's what you're into.
Cherry's easy to spot as they've got like a whole football team of women out front; many have some miles on them, and they may not appeal to those looking for thin, young girls, but they were all friendly both outside, and in the lobby. Again you get a full lineup of smiles, at least, which is more than I can say for some of the other parlors. (I walked into Daisy Dream, for instance, and got a cold shoulder from both all the girls and even the mamasan, who could barely be bothered to show me the options). I chose Cherry from Cherry Massage, who certainly gave it her all, and at least this time I avoided heat exhaustion, LOL. I also went just for an oil massage, rather than Nuru, as I started to wonder if the Nuru gel was messing with my skin's ability to cool itself down. Cost for just the oil massage and FS was 2000 baht, a bargain compared to the nuru options. I'm glad I tried nuru, but for costs I may just stick with the oil or regular gel.
A similar vibe to the all-girl outdoor onslaught of Cherry was the trilogy of Honey Bee, Bangkok Passion, and Kiss Massage, all part of the same group (their website lists photos for all three places), and all next to one another off a side street a little further down Soi 22. Their website gives an idea of what to expect: again, plenty of older women mixed with a few young things. I wound up talking with some of the girls as they were eating dinner outside (they even asked me to sit down and share some food, which was a fun experience), and I kind of regret not having the time to sample one of them. Again, people looking for young thin K-Pop-types would be disappointed; all the girls here are solidly Thai, a bit darker skinned, but pretty friendly.
One night on my walk back to my hotel after a day without action (again, in 102 degree weather, so not smart), I had a random encounter. I was walking by Analisa Massage when further down the street this woman was calling out to me; at first I thought she actually really needed assistance, so I started walking down the dark street to her. (Obviously, I'm not the smartest person). But it turned out she was a freelancer who wanted my attention. And, being stupid and somewhat horny anyway, I took her up on it, as she was surprisingly attractive. Well, that and "1300 baht short time" helped convince me. She was from the Philippines, early 30's, but still quite gorgeous. (She said she worked in Japan mostly as a karaoke hostess). There's a short time hotel next to Analisa (this is all around Soi 6, through the little passageway by Lolita's) called Orchid Guesthouse, where she was staying. Up we went to her room, and I could hear someone following us: fortunately it wasn't someone coming to knife me, but her "friend" Erika, another Filipina but one that had a lot of skin-whitening done, and a lot of surgery. She looked just like a curvy K-pop robot. She offered her services as well for another 1000 baht, so there, in a filthy short-time hotel at around 2 am during one of the hottest stretches of Bangkok weather ever, I had my first threesome, for all of 2300 baht total. To be truthful, a better, less overheated man than myself might have enjoyed it, but for me it was about one woman and about 10 degrees too much. It was great looking at them both nude (Erika especially had an amazing ass and boobs, probably entirely plastic but still), but my penis gave up after about 5 minutes, unable to either come or even stay hard. That said, all three of us wound up talking about Filipino food for an hour or so as I cooled down; I never thought I'd wind up talking about pancit with two Filipina hookers at 3 am in a Bangkok flophouse after failing to come, but there you go.
Also had my obligatory Thermae visit, and again I wound up choosing a comfortably mid-30's office worker type, solidly built. I like those types at Thermae as they're usually able to give better service than some of the young supermodel types, and that was pretty much the case here. As always, some of the girls couldn't be bothered to make eye contact with me, but their loss; lots of girls did, and even a few young, good-looking ones. I'm just more into a sexy office lady MILF type, and Thermae has a lot of them. Only issue is that she was a bit too wired, kept talking about her family and how they'd kill her if they saw her in one of those Thermae Youtube videos, etc etc. That kind of dragged down the mood, LOL. She offered 2500 baht, I countered with 2000 baht, and off we went for 2200, all for about 70 minutes of massage, FS, and paranoid rambling about her family.
Apologies for the long-winded report, hope it might be useful for someone. All told I experienced three massage spots, one Thermae pickup, and one (well, two) freelancers at a short-time hotel, plus seven nights and mornings with Miss Myanmar. I came home with a bunch of good memories, a desire to never be that uncomfortably hot again, and with chlamydia, LOL. This was from maybe two moments with two girls where I went BB for a minute in the heat of things, aaargh. Thanks, Myanmar girl or (later on) a Phnom Penh girl. And there's the severe depression that lingers when you realize you won't be back in BKK for awhile.
[QUOTE=MassageLover81;2918502]How much are the 8 girls at Cherry Spa in Little Japan?
How much time did you have to spend getting to know the 2 cute regular girls that are top 5 looking girls you met in Vietnam?
Thanks![/QUOTE]Maybe you can take your questions over to the Vietnam forum?
At winterslight.
Nice report. I'm not going to tell you what you did right or wrong, you got your boots on the ground so know what you have to do to make your next visit better.
[QUOTE=WintersLight;2918506]Just returned from a second trip to Bangkok in four months, after my first time in late December / early January. (You can track back to my first two reports from that time if you're interested). Wanted to share my experiences ...[/QUOTE]First, you write great reports! The details are much appreciated, and really, there's no need to "spare the details" about the sex. That's what we're here for!
Second, you mentioned heat exhaustion several times. I'm sure you probably are doing this, but just in case, here are a few tips:
-hydrate, hydrate, hydrate! Powerade and that nice, cold water from Crystal at 7/11.
-wear a hat.
-walk on the shady side of the soi whenever possible.
Best of luck and keep posting!
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2918551]At winterslight.
Nice report. I'm not going to tell you what you did right or wrong, you got your boots on the ground so know what you have to do to make your next visit better.[/QUOTE]Good post. I think we, myself included, need to be less critical of reviews and appreciate them. Jakarta board members have now lost all my Jakarta reviews because of LoveitHere and his multiple handles.
[QUOTE=TKOman;2918493]I've read about a VIP bus service from BKK to points beyond such as Pattaya or Hua Hin. They offer transport in a large, tinted-glass bus or limo, drinks, and the ride comes with 2 hostesses. There's no mystery that the hostesses are there to fuck / suck the passenger during the ride. Naturally the price isn't cheap. Can anyone provide a review? Devils Den offers this, and I imagine there are other companies. Sounds like a good way to spend my first few hours on the ground, and get to the beach![/QUOTE]Devil's den closed down during the pandemic.
I looked into these services briefly about a year ago and didn't find anyone offering it. Absolute Angels agency did advertise it but they were closed down after a police raid last Autumn.
[QUOTE=TKOman;2918493]I've read about a VIP bus service from BKK to points beyond such as Pattaya or Hua Hin. They offer transport in a large, tinted-glass bus or limo, drinks, and the ride comes with 2 hostesses. There's no mystery that the hostesses are there to fuck / suck the passenger during the ride. Naturally the price isn't cheap. Can anyone provide a review? Devils Den offers this, and I imagine there are other companies. Sounds like a good way to spend my first few hours on the ground, and get to the beach![/QUOTE]2 girls and a bus load of horny men. Can't say I like those odds much.
[QUOTE=WintersLight;2918506]One night on my walk back to my hotel after a day without action (again, in 102 degree weather, so not smart), I had a random encounter. I was walking by Analisa Massage when further down the street this woman was calling out to me; at first I thought she actually really needed assistance, so I started walking down the dark street to her. (Obviously, I'm not the smartest person). But it turned out she was a freelancer who wanted my attention. And, being stupid and somewhat horny anyway, I took her up on it, as she was surprisingly attractive. Well, that and "1300 baht short time" helped convince me. She was from the Philippines, early 30's, but still quite gorgeous. (She said she worked in Japan mostly as a karaoke hostess). There's a short time hotel next to Analisa (this is all around Soi 6, through the little passageway by Lolita's) called Orchid Guesthouse, where she was staying. Up we went to her room, and I could hear someone following us: fortunately it wasn't someone coming to knife me, but her "friend" Erika, another Filipina but one that had a lot of skin-whitening done, and a lot of surgery. She looked just like a curvy K-pop robot. She offered her services as well for another 1000 baht, so there, in a filthy short-time hotel at around 2 am during one of the hottest stretches of Bangkok weather ever, I had my first threesome, for all of 2300 baht total. To be truthful, a better, less overheated man than myself might have enjoyed it, but for me it was about one woman and about 10 degrees too much..[/QUOTE]I really don't want to give you a heart attack but if you met that girl at the junction of soi 6 and soi 4 (around where the 7-11 is located), the area is almost 100 % occupied by LBs.
If the girl is also a good looking one, the odds goes up to 100% with certainty, as the only girls usually standing around there are of very low quality.
I've been approached by a few Pino Lbs in that area, and they looked quite obvious to me (never been approached by a real Pino woman there or anywhere else).
Sorry for the news bro.
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2918893]2 girls and a bus load of horny men. Can't say I like those odds much.[/QUOTE]Yeah who goes first?
Yesterday night Geisha upped their game again (maybe they have fewer girls from Sunday to Tuesday?
The last time I was there I met a cute little all natural girl there who gave me a wonderful time both in the bar and in my room during the ST.
I didn't have any intention of going in there but while I walked in front of the place she was sitting outside, showed me her best smile and made a very cute hand gesture showing the entrance of the bar. Unlike in some other occasions, I've been quick to decide and told her to come straight with me inside. She asked the waitress to find us a spot and she gave us the best place, upper seats just next to the security guys spot, no other customer around. In the bar everything was on offer, DFK, pussy fingering, boobs licking, ass fingering, she would bounce on my lap while my finger was in her ass (but she is not A+) and all of these right next to the security guys. At first I was a bit concerned they might not accept it but quickly the guys gave me the big smile with the thumbs up so I kept pouring her with drinks as she helped me wash my bad vibes away (this happened an hour after my bad experience with a post-op in the Aurora 33 massage place).
Prices are: 170 for my Heineken and 220 for her glass of beer. I enjoyed her so much that I went up to 5 drinks for her (unusual for me in a gogo bar). During that time 3 or 4 mamas came to me and tried to push for the barfine, but I brushed them away and decided it directly with the girl instead).
ST: 3000 (I didn't try to negotiate, I thought she is so cute it would be unfair to give her less than what she expects), barfine: 1000, drinks: 1270 (mama asked a 100 baht tip too, I gave her, but I've not been rounded by any other person begging for a tip). I paid the girl directly in my room, drinks and barfine were paid in the bar.
I've noticed one good thing about these gogo bars in NEP, once you give the girl a lady drink, she will stay with you as long as you'll keep getting her some drinks. No bullshit like in other places, where the girls leave you and their drink because they've got to go back dancing for another 20 minutes before coming back just to finish the drink.
At that time I was staying a bit far from NEP, in soi 13 (Radisson), but she happily walked back there with me without any complain. In the room, she was a real sweet heart, very submissive, no clock watcher let me do whatever I wanted without any complain too (but she asked for sex with condom). A bit of info about her, 22, from the North, small, slim, not a single surgery (not even nose), no tattoos, no baby, very flat stomach, very beautiful small breast, a tight and shaved pussy and a very sweet and small ass. Her face isn't one that people on here would call pretty but she was so cute I found her irresistible.
That was two days before I went to Pattaya for a week, I came back on Monday, but I had a look in the bar on Monday and Tuesday, she was not there and the place looked dead.
Yesterday, the place looked more agitated, I had a look inside, saw many girls on stage, decided to go have a drink and surprise she was there, dancing on the stage. She immediately recognized me and saluted me with a wai once I walked in front of her. I didn't call her over, I wanted to see her dancing (she is a lazy dancer and looked shy). Everything went exactly as the last time, I spent the exact same amount there. We had a quicker walk to my room in soi 4, and she was even better that time with a very special thumbs up because there have been no talk of condom that time.
I don't think that girl is an exception in that place, I could see many other girls being playful in that bar but guys didn't go as far as I did. Waitress and mamasans are a bit pushy though when they see the customer staying alone, so it's better to go in when they've got plenty of girls working with plenty of choices.
Next to me was sitting a guy who called a girl that I found very attractive for example, he just payed her a drink played for a while with her body and left without barfining her.
I don't think you'll find any fatties there (except maybe in the bath tube area, I didn't have a look at these girls). Most of them are small and very slim, some have tattoos some don't, some have natural looking faces, some don't but the constant is them being slim. The girls in the bath tube are topless but others are wearing a beautiful and sexy bikini like the ones used to go on the beach.
Overall, I've been a customer there two times and had a 100% success satisfaction rate there so I give them the thumbs up and highly recommend the place if you see a girl to your liking (but be ready to spend at least 4500, it's a place for people who want to spend a good time, not recommended for people obsessed by the money they are spending).
[QUOTE=NewImage;2918905]Yeah who goes first?[/QUOTE]I can imagine how aggressive the guys are on the bus!
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2918896]I really don't want to give you a heart attack but if you met that girl at the junction of soi 6 and soi 4 (around where the 7-11 is located), the area is almost 100 % occupied by LBs.
If the girl is also a good looking one, the odds goes up to 100% with certainty, as the only girls usually standing around there are of very low quality.
I've been approached by a few Pino Lbs in that area, and they looked quite obvious to me (never been approached by a real Pino woman there or anywhere else).
Sorry for the news bro.[/QUOTE]He's clearly referring to the soi 6 passageway ont to Soi 8. Never seen a lady boy around there.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2918896]I really don't want to give you a heart attack but if you met that girl at the junction of soi 6 and soi 4 (around where the 7-11 is located), the area is almost 100 % occupied by LBs.
If the girl is also a good looking one, the odds goes up to 100% with certainty, as the only girls usually standing around there are of very low quality.
I've been approached by a few Pino Lbs in that area, and they looked quite obvious to me (never been approached by a real Pino woman there or anywhere else).
Sorry for the news bro.[/QUOTE]Haha, thanks for the warning, Paolo99! It was actually two blocks down next to Analisa Massage, not that that matters, but I did see plenty of other women (or what appeared to be actual women) around there, in between all the LB's. While new to Bangkok, I'm somewhat familiar / good with spotting LB's, so I'm pretty sure (I hope!) that she wasn't (she was way shorter than most LB's, for instance, LOL, didn't have a promiment adam's apple or oddly strong arms, etc), as she did have working female parts in all the correct spots. I don't think she was a post-OP either; she showed me some photos of her time in Japan over the past ten years, and her younger days in the PI, and she was still a woman then too. Now her friend 'Erika' that joined us, while she was anatomically correct, she could have been a post-OP perhaps, as pretty much everything else about her body seemed factory-assembled. Both of them also showed me their profiles on massagerepublic (I think it was that site, or maybe fiwfans or ThaiFriendly) and nothing in their profiles mentioned LB. But I do know what you mean, there were definitely a lot of LB's in that Soi 4/6 area, so its hard to figure out. And while the freelancer was attractive to me, she was still in her mid-30's, so not a stunner type or anything that would seem too out of place in that area.
Also, thanks to Nyezhov, BananaBoi, etc for the kind words on the report. I don't have the knowledge or experience that all of you regulars that either live in the area, or visit a lot, do, so I'm writing from the POV of a relative newbie, trying to make it work, undoubtedly making all kinds of mistakes, but figuring it out as I go. Definitely trying to do too much and maximize my time, but hopefully the reports are good for people like me, who are only in the area once or twice a year, if that.
So I arrived from UK mid-day today and the sky was blue (much to my suprise). By 7:30 pm the heavens opened for aboout 3 hrs, which was not ideal as my pre-arranged pussy from TF spent 30 minutes in a traffic jam on the way to my hotel on Soi 8.
That aside, everything appeared to carry on as normal. Nobody cares that it is raining. Some people carry umbrellas, but may just wander around in the warm rain. All of the bars and restaurants on Soi 8 appear to be business as usuay.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2918905]Yeah who goes first?[/QUOTE]I think any decent man would bring his own (and posibly share with his mates?
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2918989]That aside, everything appeared to carry on as normal. Nobody cares that it is raining. Some people carry umbrellas, but may just wander around in the warm rain. All of the bars and restaurants on Soi 8 appear to be business as usuay.[/QUOTE]Honestly Bangkok is packed right now, at least along Suk from soi 3 to Promphong.
I heard China man and woman talking everywhere. Plus 50% of the customers in NEP are Chinese mongers or Chinese tourists (with loads of Indians).
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2918910]Yesterday night Geisha upped their game again (maybe they have fewer girls from Sunday to Tuesday?
At that time I was staying a bit far from NEP, in soi 13 (Radisson), but she happily walked back there with me without any complain.
Overall, I've been a customer there two times and had a 100% success satisfaction rate there so I give them the thumbs up and highly recommend the place if you see a girl to your liking (but be ready to spend at least 4500, it's a place for people who want to spend a good time, not recommended for people obsessed by the money they are spending).[/QUOTE]Thanks for that fine report. Over the last 1+ years, I've noticed that Geisha consistently has pretty girls, but I can't remember ever doing a bar fine there. Your comments make it seem that the prices and service are consistent with other NEP go go places where I've had consistent success. I typically tip a little more, today's tips are given for tomorrow's favored service. Extra 500 baht in tips today can mean better selection of girls and performance tomorrow. Mamasan is #1 on my list of people to tip because I want her to tell the girls that I am a good customer who deserves to be treated well.
The Radisson on Soi 13 is seldom mentioned, but I stay there frequently. To me, there are 2 shortcomings. (1) it is a long walk from Sukhumvit without decent sidewalks, so I use tuk tuk from pickup to Radisson. (2) The front desk is sometimes reluctant to collect the IDs from my guests. I consistently reserve the cheapest room in the hotel and they consistently give me an upgraded room, sometimes to a full suite (large sleeping area, two full bathrooms, large sitting area, private office, large dining area, small kitchenette). When you check in to your room, be sure that the floor plan matches your wishes, there is at least one floor plan that is very awkward.
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2918990]I think any decent man would bring his own (and posibly share with his mates?[/QUOTE]Anyone for seconds? Or thirds. Ew [URL]www...or[/URL] fourths. But agree sharing IS caring.
NI.
I booked a night at the Ruamchit Hotel for a one night only Bangkok stop over while travelling.
Flew threw customs and straight down to the ISG recommended currency exchange near the airport rail line. Taxi from airport was easy and cheap at about 450 bhat including tolls. Took maybe 30 minutes to get to the hotel. Booked in at reception easily by friendly staff. Room was okay, a bit small but clean.
First intention was to head to Wonder Massage which was less than a 10 minute walk from the hotel. See my other report.
After Wonder Massage (great threesome!) I headed down the main street looking for food. Did a bit of people watching before returning to Thermae Cafe.
It was very busy and had a lot of girls. It was a bit of an odd sensation walking around trying to check out the girls you liked. As per other reports on here. The girls were mainly into the asian guys. Very few made eye contact with me and I'm a slim guy in his late 30's. I made an approach to a real nice looking girl who didn't make eye contact and said Hi. She wasn't impressed so I just moved on. I saw a hot girl with dyed blonde hair who seemed friendly, and started to make my way towards her after another circuit. Annoyingly she was called over to another guy when I was approaching.
After a couple more circuits I thought "fuck this" and left. There weren't many that were taking my fancy, and those that did were not interested.
I walked down the main drag, more people watching. A few girls looked good, but I wasn't in a hurry. After an hour or so I thought I'd try Thermae again and outside were quite a few good looking girls.
Approached one who was about 7/10 who wanted 5 k bht for an hour. No thanks. Another I approached admitted she was a lady boy. I was tempted but decided against it. A third girl was pretty and wanted 2. 5 k bhat for short time but wouldn't do BBBJ. Just as I walked away from her I saw the blonde haired girl that I had seen in Thermae returning! I immediately approached her and she offered 3 k for ST and 6 k for LT.
Her name was "Am" I think. She was really hot, early 20's with big cans that had been enhanced but very well. She had a beautiful thai face with braces and dyed medium length blonde hair.
I agreed ST with her and took her up to the hotel room.
After we showered separately she was waiting in bed. She had an amazing body. She did amazing BBBJ, very energetic and keen. When asked to go into various positions she literally said "I'll do anything, I don't mind just tell me and I'll do it" which was all I wanted to hear! So we moved on to ball sucking then she rimmed me. Fucking awesome.
Sex in any position in any way I wanted for as long as I wanted. She was certainly a yes girl. I don't do uncovered sex so I didn't ask her if she did BBFS. For the finale she laid on the bed face up and I basically sat on her face alternating between BBBJ, ball sucking and rimming while she jerked me off. Permission granted for CIM, she opened up wide and took the load.
She was great, a real yes girl with a smoking body and face. I would see her again but alas my visit was short.
So Thermae was a bit shit really, the girls certainly had a preference for old asian guys. I didn't enjoy the walking around in front of the stationary girls. It should be the other way around in my opinion, like you sit down with a beer and they walk past. If you like one, call her over. Still, I'm glad I found Am there even after I missed out first time. Lesson learnt, if you see one you like, make a move ASAP.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2918896]I really don't want to give you a heart attack but if you met that girl at the junction of soi 6 and soi 4 (around where the 7-11 is located), the area is almost 100 % occupied by LBs.
If the girl is also a good looking one, the odds goes up to 100% with certainty, as the only girls usually standing around there are of very low quality.
I've been approached by a few Pino Lbs in that area, and they looked quite obvious to me (never been approached by a real Pino woman there or anywhere else).
Sorry for the news bro.[/QUOTE]Haha, thanks for the warning, Paolo99! It was actually two blocks down from the Soi 4/6 axis, next to Analisa Massage, in front of a short-term guesthouse. According to her, they work out of there and mainly get customers to do incall from massagerepublic and other online sites, rather than work the streets; she wasn't dressed like a hooker, in fact, more like a MILF on the way home (she said she was actually coming back from getting food when she noticed me, supposedly). While new to Bangkok, I'm somewhat familiar / good with spotting LB's, so I'm pretty sure (I hope!) that she wasn't one; she was way shorter than most LB's, for instance, LOL, didn't have a a prominent adam's apple or oddly strong arms, etc, and she certainly had working lady parts in all the correct spots. I don't think she was a post-OP either; she showed me some photos of her time in Japan over the past ten years, and her younger days in the PI, and she was still a woman then too. Now her friend 'Erika' that joined us, while she was anatomically correct, she could have been a post-OP perhaps, as pretty much everything else about her body seemed factory-assembled. Both of them also showed me their profiles on massagerepublic (I think it was that site, or maybe fiwfans or ThaiFriendly) and nothing in their profiles mentioned LB. But I do know what you mean, there were definitely a lot of LB's in that Soi 4/6 area, so its hard to figure out.
Also, thanks to Nyezhov, BananaBoi, etc for the kind words on the report. I don't have the knowledge or experience that all of you regulars that either live in the area, or visit a lot, do, so I'm writing from the POV of a relative newbie, trying to make it work, undoubtedly making all kinds of mistakes, but figuring it out as I go. Definitely trying to do too much and maximize my time, but hopefully the reports are good for people like me, who are only in the area once or twice a year, if that.
[QUOTE=TKOman;2918712]First, you write great reports! The details are much appreciated, and really, there's no need to "spare the details" about the sex. That's what we're here for!
Second, you mentioned heat exhaustion several times. I'm sure you probably are doing this, but just in case, here are a few tips:
-hydrate, hydrate, hydrate! Powerade and that nice, cold water from Crystal at 7/11.
-wear a hat.
-walk on the shady side of the soi whenever possible.
Best of luck and keep posting![/QUOTE]Thanks TKOMan. I was trying my best to do all of those things, but I still wasn't quite prepared for the heat. I'm also not used to having sex 3-4 times a day, so I think that also worked against me. I'm not 25 anymore, alas, and unlike a lot of the people on the forum I can't go 60 minutes at a time, LOL.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2918551]At winterslight.
Nice report. I'm not going to tell you what you did right or wrong, you got your boots on the ground so know what you have to do to make your next visit better.[/QUOTE]Thank you Nyezhov, BananaBoi, etc for the kind words on the report. I don't have the knowledge or experience that all of you regulars that either live in the area, or visit a lot, do, so I'm writing from the POV of a relative newbie, trying to make it work, undoubtedly making all kinds of mistakes, but figuring it out as I go. Definitely trying to do too much and maximize my time, but hopefully the reports are good for people like me, who are only in the area once or twice a year. There are so many options in Bangkok it's hard to go wrong, but for an obsessive like me it can be overwhelming, wanting to try as much as possible, but only having the time / stamina / money for 2-3 experiences a day. It was nice having a "regular" who would come over every night and stay through the morning, a guarantee of a positive, almost GF experience, but we all still want to experience more.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2918910]Geisha gogo bar in NEP[/QUOTE]Thank you for your review, Paolo. I'll try dragging my ass away from Thermae to go to Nana this trip.
Anyone else have other Nana gogo bars they recommend other than the usual Rainbow, Billboard?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2919038]Thank you for your review, Paolo. I'll try dragging my ass away from Thermae to go to Nana this trip.
Anyone else have other Nana gogo bars they recommend other than the usual Rainbow, Billboard?[/QUOTE]I try to poke my nose into Twister every trip becasue the volume of girls is usually high.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2919038]Thank you for your review, Paolo. I'll try dragging my ass away from Thermae to go to Nana this trip.
Anyone else have other Nana gogo bars they recommend other than the usual Rainbow, Billboard?[/QUOTE]Stick recommend s Sexy Nights. LOL. Hahaha. LOL. Hahaha. LOL. Hahaha.
That's where all the people in the know go.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2919038]Thank you for your review, Paolo. I'll try dragging my ass away from Thermae to go to Nana this trip.
Anyone else have other Nana gogo bars they recommend other than the usual Rainbow, Billboard?[/QUOTE]Red Dragon is also a fun bar with lots of spinners. Rainbow 4 can be good but the best girls get barfined quickly by the Asian guys so it can be very hit or miss.
Also adding to Paulo's report in the Gesiha tub the girls get fully nude only covered by the soap suds and are usually very playful for tips. I've only seen 1 good looking girl in the tub.
I agree That Twister can be good some nights if you like spinners. To me Billboard used to be the top bar but now it seems to be filled with mostly larger girls. If that's your thing then it's great, otherwise not so much.
I tried something new the other afternoon, it had been a late night and in the morning I struggled to get my work done. By noon I was tired, but felt that little tingle in my balls which always means I will need relief soon, but wasn't up for a full session. So I snagged a Grab over to 7-Heaven, which is in an alley at 4/15 Sukhumvit 33 Alley, Khlong Tan Nuea, Watthana (google mapped it)
I stopped at a cannabis shop, bought a joint and smoked almost all of it outside the bar next door to 7-Heaven. I was so high, I could barely walk or talk. When I'm high, I can last forever so at reception I picked a fairly hot looking, but experienced girl from the iPad, paid my 1300 THB and was lead to a private cubicle. I was kept waiting about 15 minutes then she returned and in a slightly unsexy fashion asked me to strip and she then carefully washed the equipment and my chest in the in room sink, which I also took a piss into for the hell of it. She then took off her top and allowed some groping. After that, I just lay on my back and let her go to work (BBBJ) as I dozed, as you do with a good body massage. Honestly, these girls are the best cocksuckers I have ever experienced. Very enjoyable to close the eyes and just let her do her job for 45 minutes. It was kind of amusing to see how hard she was working and how she became a little unhappy that I didn't shoot in the first 10 minutes as I am sure lots of customer do. But this is her job and she kept at it with good attention to the twins, but no rimming, sadly. I finally felt sorry for her and stood and finishing the job myself with some ropey sticky all over her her tits.
The girl will strip to her waist and you can grope as much as you like. For an extra charge you can have her remove her skirt, but no fingering (at least with the one I had) and definitely no sex (at least that's what the sign says). I paid for her to remove her skirt the first time, but it's really a bit of a rip off. I went back today and had another great experience with another girl.
I know there are cheaper BJ bars (is Kangaroo still around?) and certainly cheap bar girls, but it was a nice change to relax like I was getting a foot massage but instead to be sucked off for 45 minutes by a pro cocksucker.
Google the name and you'll easily find the location. However attached are some photos, an menu, and a Line connect.
[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/c4NqoM6Kk7v2mWwb9?g_st=com.google.maps.preview.copy[/URL]
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2919038]Thank you for your review, Paolo. I'll try dragging my ass away from Thermae to go to Nana this trip.
Anyone else have other Nana gogo bars they recommend other than the usual Rainbow, Billboard?[/QUOTE]We liked the vibe at Billboard but pulled girls at butterflies. They are younger and more natural tits there. Seems same owner maybe as drinks menu and format is identical. Also pulled one from Bunny on first floor. Only a few girls but def two I would do. And did just one.
[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2919261]For an extra charge you can have her remove her skirt, but no fingering (at least with the one I had) and definitely no sex (at least that's what the sign says). [/QUOTE]I went to Picasso S19 my last trip and it had a "No prostitution" sign in the room I was in and of course it's a known for FS LOL.
Maybe if price is right anything goes?
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2919059]Red Dragon is also a fun bar with lots of spinners. Rainbow 4 can be good but the best girls get barfined quickly by the Asian guys so it can be very hit or miss.
Also adding to Paulo's report in the Gesiha tub the girls get fully nude only covered by the soap suds and are usually very playful for tips. I've only seen 1 good looking girl in the tub.
I agree That Twister can be good some nights if you like spinners. To me Billboard used to be the top bar but now it seems to be filled with mostly larger girls. If that's your thing then it's great, otherwise not so much.[/QUOTE]Red Dragon has hot ladies but they def padded our drink bill. We left.
P.S. Plus one on 7 Heaven. Totally in a different class than traditional MILF or worse BJ bars like Kasalong. Strong recommend.
Thanks for the responses guys. I'll check out Twisters if I get to Nana. Used to be ok but I haven't been there since I went with Syzygies many many years ago. Never been to Red Dragon. Will pop my head in.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2919293]Thanks for the responses guys. I'll check out Twisters if I get to Nana. Used to be ok but I haven't been there since I went with Syzygies many many years ago. Never been to Red Dragon. Will pop my head in.[/QUOTE]Red dragon has lots and lots of very hot girls, but waitresses are crooks, and it's a drink hustle club and most girls will play you and then not barfine! But definitely worth stopping in for a beer and checking show out! My friend pulls hot girls out of their lots and lots but he's a baller and cares zero about money! Gives momasoon 10 k and has girl at his hotel next day before we go to dinner, not never ever once has one not shown up!
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2919293]Thanks for the responses guys. I'll check out Twisters if I get to Nana. Used to be ok but I haven't been there since I went with Syzygies many many years ago. Never been to Red Dragon. Will pop my head in.[/QUOTE]I've never seen anyone in Red Dragon, but I haven't been to Nana in a month.
Note to Newebies:
Steelbaton just gave us a great report about 7-Heavan but he made one possible mistake: he bought a preroll. Now don't get me wrong, he got wasted so I'm not being critical because I don't know what kind of herbalist he is.
If you are a real stoner (ie yanks / Canucks): don't buy Pre Rolls in Bangkok. Those are designed to make money off clueless Asian tourists who face the death penalty for smoking it in their own country and who can barely handle brick ditch weed. Sure, its cheap and convenient, but you are just getting trim and floor scrapings for 350 baht. It tastses good to Sum Yung Gai but he saw his first flush toilet at the Guangzhao and he takes selfies with a pre roll and a Mickey DS Cheese Burger. You are far better buying a gram and ask the staff to roll it for you, if you are a rookie or an occasional smoker have them split it into two joints for you and you Eurotrash can have them mix tobacco it.
For those of you in the know, nothing beats a relaxing blowjob after you got nice and wacked. I have all sorts of equipment, so a few months ago I ripped a few hits of some killer concentrate and then ambled into 7-Heaven where I had one of those BJs where you become one with your own penis, etc.
Stoned in an airconditioned BJ bar in Bangkok. Priceless.
Hey nice to hear from you RacShack. Red Dragon seems like a place to definitely pay for every single drink as it comes and don't use the bar tab system. I always use the no tipping the waitress approach when waitresses are too pushy. That always keeps them away from me. It's what I used to do at Sapphire back in 2015.
Are the girls dirty at least? At least DFK and heavy mutual groping or lap dancing?
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2919264]We liked the vibe at Billboard but pulled girls at butterflies. They are younger and more natural tits there. Seems same owner maybe as drinks menu and format is identical. Also pulled one from Bunny on first floor. Only a few girls but def two I would do. And did just one.[/QUOTE]Sorry but now Butterflies is not very good. Bars change all the time. It's best to check all the bars until you find the one you like on that visit. I usually start with the bar I liked best on the last visit and go from there. If the first bar is good no need to continue looking unless you're just checking out several bars. I normally visit the bars in Nana 2 times a week, more often if out of town friends are visiting.
[QUOTE=RacShack;2919303]Red dragon has lots and lots of very hot girls, but waitresses are crooks, and it's a drink hustle club and most girls will play you and then not barfine! But definitely worth stopping in for a beer and checking show out! My friend pulls hot girls out of their lots and lots but he's a baller and cares zero about money! Gives momasoon 10 k and has girl at his hotel next day before we go to dinner, not never ever once has one not shown up![/QUOTE]I've never been ripped off at Red Dragon but I go there a lot. I also don't care about the money if I'm having a good time, that's the reason I go. However I'm never giving a mamasan a 10 k tip.
I agree that you do need to confirm that the lady will barfine if that's your intention because they do have drinks only girls there. Some won't barfine unless they really like you.
To answer BananaBoi's question it is a very hands on bar, guys getting lap dances all the time.
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2919324]Sorry but now Butterflies is not very good. Bars change all the time. It's best to check all the bars until you find the one you like on that visit. I usually start with the bar I liked best on the last visit and go from there. If the first bar is good no need to continue looking unless you're just checking out several bars. I normally visit the bars in Nana 2 times a week, more often if out of town friends are visiting.[/QUOTE]I have been in Butterflies (or at least poked my nose in) 4 times this year and only stayed once. Go on to the next one.
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2919325]I've never been ripped off at Red Dragon but I go there a lot. I also don't care about the money if I'm having a good time, that's the reason I go. However I'm never giving a mamasan a 10 k tip.
I agree that you do need to confirm that the lady will barfine if that's your intention because they do have drinks only girls there. Some won't barfine unless they really like you.
To answer BananaBoi's question it is a very hands on bar, guys getting lap dances all the time.[/QUOTE]Which one is Red Dragon?
I didn't even notice it. Is it one of the 2 bars used to be called Mandarin?
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2919324]Sorry but now Butterflies is not very good. Bars change all the time. It's best to check all the bars until you find the one you like on that visit. I usually start with the bar I liked best on the last visit and go from there. If the first bar is good no need to continue looking unless you're just checking out several bars. I normally visit the bars in Nana 2 times a week, more often if out of town friends are visiting.[/QUOTE]Butterfly has never ever been good.
One step above Sexy Nights, maybe 2 steps.
Billboards don't have Thai style youngish white skin. Dark skin seems what's on Offer.
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2919325]I've never been ripped off at Red Dragon but I go there a lot. I also don't care about the money if I'm having a good time, that's the reason I go. However I'm never giving a mamasan a 10 k tip.
I agree that you do need to confirm that the lady will barfine if that's your intention because they do have drinks only girls there. Some won't barfine unless they really like you.
To answer BananaBoi's question it is a very hands on bar, guys getting lap dances all the time.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure tip of 10 k was not for momason, it was for girl to show up next day, but I'm sure moms tip was between 2-4 k min! As far as the ripped off part it's happened more then once their but maybe a lot to do with them taking advantage of his kindness! And yes about if girl likes you helps a lot, I follow his Lead but not in that way I've had several hotties from their meet me at hotel next day (getting their numbers) for more like 4-5 k range! But a lot probably has to do with the way he's treating everyone! But I stick to the hustle club part for guys just passing through! And yes the booth right behind stage I've seen some hands on dancing going on! Most likely with guys spending lots of money! Definitely worth haven a beer there and see lots and lots of young hotties!
[QUOTE=TomJones06;2916983]Hello all, I am currently In the land of smiles, the land of milk and honey, the Adult Disney World, or so I thought. A bit of backstory: I'm 36, blk, US Navy Sailor, and two years away from retirement. Before heading my final command, I decided to spend my transfer leave looking at different areas of the Philippines and Thailand for pote, ntial landing situations post retirement. I also figured ID kill two birds with one stone and get a little action in. After a successful week in Manila touring condos in Makati and BGC, and having to beat the ladies off with a stick, I made my way to Bangkok. First day was spent getting a signature spring massage at spring spa. Great deep massage from a portly old lady. I then toured a few apartments and dropped by Lolitas on soi 8. The girl was cute enough, but she failed to get the ole trouser snake to spit (I blame the young lady in Manila who went to town on me the previous evening.) I Called it a day after dinner and hit the room. The next day (yesterday) I toured more condos and did a tour of what Arun, lovely place, loved the history. Last night is where things got a bit sour. I'm staying on soi 11, so I decided to check out thermae. Now I'm not conceited, but I do consider myself to be a conventionally attractive individual. 5'11,230 lbs, muscular, with a six pack of and and well groomed / dressed. Also, from what I've been told, a very nice smile. I have never had an issue with the ladies in the you. S, or otherwise. Until last night. I got a beer and made a lap around the room and you would have thought I had a face tattoo that said AIDS on my forehead! Not a single lady in the room would even meet my gaze. I grabbed a second beer and talked to an older guy in a corner who told me to come back later as there would be more talent after 11 pm. I decided to walk the Sois and see what I could find. It was a bit wet out last night, but the streets were still packed. I think I discovered a cheat code on how to spot a ladyboy! As I was walking the ladyboys who were obviously ladyboys all tried grabbing me and, or called me sexy as I walked by. Not going to lie, this gave my ego a bit of the boost it needed, but I like girl butt. Unfortunately, the actual women freelancers standing on the streets wouldn't even meet my eye. Not even the African chicks! (One African chick did grab my arm, but I'm not convinced she wasn't a dude. Hard pass.) Ok, so at this point my feelings are hurt. It's honestly not the first time in my life I've been in a similar situation, but getting turned down by hookers kinda stings a little. My feelings were hurt. I made my way back to thermae and the place was way more packed with women, but again, not a single one would even look at me. I sat down and just looked around and a fuckin geriatric, balding Asian guy was getting blinded by the beaming smiles as he passed, WTF?! I'm not dumb, I get it. Who wants a big black guy with stamina when you can have an old guy who may not even rise to the occasion. I know this, but damn, not a SINGLE option for me?! I leave for the second time and make my way back to the room. I make it a point to smile at every single chick I pass on the streets and again, I'm treated like a fuckin lepur. I remember my first port visit to Pattaya beach back in 07 like it was yesterday. I was serenaded with calls of chocolate man, so sexy, and I had no shortage of ladies ready and willing to take me on. My how times have changed. I could have probably had some luck at Nana plaza, but I don't really drink like that and I'm not too keen on paying that kind of money when I'll be back In the Philippines this weekend where it's either free, or very cheap. I guess the moral to this story is if you are a relatively young, fit black guy in Bangkok, you may be in for a bad time. Not sure if the same applies to young white guys because I ddn't see very many out last night. If you're Asian, or I shit you not, a white guy who looks like the penguin from Batman returns in a fuckin mobility scooter, you will be a kid in a candy store.[/QUOTE]That's what I've been saying for literally years now TomJones, and I thank you for saying it too. Only in places like Thailand, where if you are old and look like Danny Devito can you get sex, paid or otherwise. I'm thankful that places like this exist, or I'd never be able to get laid. Ever. Cause I'm too ugly, and now I'm also very old. I thank Baphomet that I had a chance to go to Thailand couple times to fuck chicks, just by giving them some cash. It ain't just me either. You can be an ancient old farang, and ugly as shit, the Thai chicks will flock over to you and be all over you like you're some of kpop star just cause you're a white guy. A super old, decrepit, ugly white guy. It ain't about the cash or whatever, it's all about the status that apparently being with farangs confer. Even with the super old, ugly Danny Devito looking ones. Go figure.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2919372]Which one is Red Dragon?
I didn't even notice it. Is it one of the 2 bars used to be called Mandarin?[/QUOTE]Yes Mandarin is upstairs and Red Dragon is downstairs (2nd floor right side of Nana from the entrance, first bar on the right off the escalator.
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2918893]2 girls and a bus load of horny men. Can't say I like those odds much.[/QUOTE]Maybe you were only joking, but I'll bite. It's not a big bus for 50 - 60 people. It's just a small van or limo that can only have one or two passengers (beside the 2 girls).
I am Asian-American, to be more specific Malaysian / indian -American. Pardon my english if I made mistakes in spelling and grammer. First of all thank you your service.
Fillipinos / Thais / Mainly Sealand aisans also indian subcontinent have strong influance from kpop, japanese and American / Europeans. White is seen as a symbol of wealth, beauty, and higher status in society that been said, as a black / indian / latino guy with little tan you will be seen as less desirable even with fit body and tall etc. Also to do with size of your packer. Sea girls prefer Asian / White custumers preferbly older cause they only need companion for dinner, walk around, and little bit of sex, they want to make as much money with little or no efforts. Sea girls see you as hard money, they have to work really hard which mean you will be fucking them left and right with multiple positions possibley all night or several rounds.
Why would they go with you, if they can get same amount of money or more with little and no efforts.
It doesn't mean you can't get laid, you just have to use little different approach, don't expect street girls, or therme cafe girls will crazy about you. What I do when I go to therme cafe.
I grab a drink, take a seat, and find my target, I also like slim thick girl just like you. After I see what I like, I give her eye contact, smile and invite her to me, or go to her and have little chit chat.
If they girl give you ridiclous price, means she is not into you, don't negociate and let her go. Most girls will negociate a little.
If I like her price, I start asking her questions what I like during sex, such as Do you kiss, do you love to suck? What position do you like? And I assure her that I will not tolerate any kind of nonsense.
Same direct approch towards street girls, you will get a vibe if she is into you or not. Never take a girl LT unless you seen her few times.
There are tons of girls in the sea area where they love chocklate men, you just have to find them. Good Luck, you can PM if you need more recommandation. Yes don't forget to visit 7 heaven for great BJ.
[QUOTE=TomJones06;2916983]Hello all, I am currently In the land of smiles, the land of milk and honey, the Adult Disney World, or so I thought. A bit of backstory: I'm 36, blk, US Navy Sailor, and two years away from retirement. Before heading my final command, I decided to spend my transfer leave looking at different areas of the Philippines and Thailand for pote, ntial landing situations post retirement. I also figured ID kill two birds with one stone and get a little action in. After a successful week in Manila touring condos in Makati and BGC, and having to beat the ladies off with a stick, I made my way to Bangkok. First day was spent getting a signature spring massage at spring spa. Great deep massage from a portly old lady. I then toured a few apartments and dropped by Lolitas on soi 8. The girl was cute enough, but she failed to get the ole trouser snake to spit (I blame the young lady in Manila who went to town on me the previous evening.) I Called it a day after dinner and hit the room. The next day (yesterday) I toured more condos and did a tour of what Arun, lovely place, loved the history. Last night is where things got a bit sour. I'm staying on soi 11, so I decided to check out thermae. Now I'm not conceited, but I do consider myself to be a conventionally attractive individual. 5'11,230 lbs, muscular, with a six pack of and and well groomed / dressed. Also, from what I've been told, a very nice smile. I have never had an issue with the ladies in the you. S, or otherwise. Until last night. I got a beer and made a lap around the room and you would have thought I had a face tattoo that said AIDS on my forehead! Not a single lady in the room would even meet my gaze. I grabbed a second beer and talked to an older guy in a corner who told me to come back later as there would be more talent after 11 pm. I decided to walk the Sois and see what I could find. It was a bit wet out last night, but the streets were still packed. I think I discovered a cheat code on how to spot a ladyboy! As I was walking the ladyboys who were obviously ladyboys all tried grabbing me and, or called me sexy as I walked by. Not going to lie, this gave my ego a bit of the boost it needed, but I like girl butt. Unfortunately, the actual women freelancers standing on the streets wouldn't even meet my eye. Not even the African chicks! (One African chick did grab my arm, but I'm not convinced she wasn't a dude. Hard pass.) Ok, so at this point my feelings are hurt. It's honestly not the first time in my life I've been in a similar situation, but getting turned down by hookers kinda stings a little. My feelings were hurt. I made my way back to thermae and the place was way more packed with women, but again, not a single one would even look at me. I sat down and just looked around and a fuckin geriatric, balding Asian guy was getting blinded by the beaming smiles as he passed, WTF?! I'm not dumb, I get it. Who wants a big black guy with stamina when you can have an old guy who may not even rise to the occasion. I know this, but damn, not a SINGLE option for me?! I leave for the second time and make my way back to the room. I make it a point to smile at every single chick I pass on the streets and again, I'm treated like a fuckin lepur. I remember my first port visit to Pattaya beach back in 07 like it was yesterday. I was serenaded with calls of chocolate man, so sexy, and I had no shortage of ladies ready and willing to take me on. My how times have changed. I could have probably had some luck at Nana plaza, but I don't really drink like that and I'm not too keen on paying that kind of money when I'll be back In the Philippines this weekend where it's either free, or very cheap. I guess the moral to this story is if you are a relatively young, fit black guy in Bangkok, you may be in for a bad time. Not sure if the same applies to young white guys because I ddn't see very many out last night. If you're Asian, or I shit you not, a white guy who looks like the penguin from Batman returns in a fuckin mobility scooter, you will be a kid in a candy store.[/QUOTE]
In Thernae now. 4 farang (including myself) and looks like 2 from India. Probably 100 Asian guys.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2919731]In Thernae now. 4 farang (including myself) and looks like 2 from India. Probably 100 Asian guys.[/QUOTE]The odds are in your favor.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2919792]The odds are in your favor.[/QUOTE]That's how I look at it too. How did you, the other Farangs and Indians fair?
I have to say 1 thing about the Japanese. They can immediately see who they want and within 1-2 minutes off they go with a cute girl you didn't even notice yet. Happened to me at Classic 2 nights ago.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2919814]That's how I look at it too. How did you, the other Farangs and Indians fair?
I have to say 1 thing about the Japanese. They can immediately see who they want and within 1-2 minutes off they go with a cute girl you didn't even notice yet. Happened to me at Classic 2 nights ago.[/QUOTE]I was only there to check it out. Some women showed interest, but not all. One old farang was just sitting there by himself, not walking around or talking to any girls. The only ones I saw leaving with girls were Asian guys.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2919850]I was only there to check it out. Some women showed interest, but not all. One old farang was just sitting there by himself, not walking around or talking to any girls. The only ones I saw leaving with girls were Asian guys.[/QUOTE]Well when I'm there, that old farang guy would be me. I try to sit at the far right side table under the AC vent so I can keep an eye on the TV while I nurse my cola, get backslaps and shoulder rubs from the staff as they pass by and answer questions from clueless Asians in broken English.
The Japanese are pros in Thermae because they were the first wave and are the "#1" in the Asian hierarchy scale. I have talked to some Japanes guys that have been going there for years. Koreans would be next, Chinese are seen as ki nok or ban nok.
If I spy one I like, after relaxing, I grab her.
The food isn't bad there and if you ask for spicy, you will get spicy.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2919853] ........and if you ask for spicy, you will get spicy.[/QUOTE]Is that the food or the women?
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2919853]Well when I'm there, that old farang guy would be me. I try to sit at the far right side table under the AC vent so I can keep an eye on the TV while I nurse my cola, get backslaps and shoulder rubs from the staff as they pass by and answer questions from clueless Asians in broken English.
The Japanese are pros in Thermae because they were the first wave and are the "#1" in the Asian hierarchy scale. I have talked to some Japanes guys that have been going there for years. Koreans would be next, Chinese are seen as ki nok or ban nok.
If I spy one I like, after relaxing, I grab her.
The food isn't bad there and if you ask for spicy, you will get spicy.[/QUOTE]Huh? The Japanese were definitely not the first wave in Thermae. When I started going there in the late 90's there were no Japanese. They didn't arrive until about 2001 and it first there were only a few of them at the back. This changed when the coffee shop at the Siam City Hotel on Petchaburi Road closed. It was the Asian Thermae. Many of the girls there migrated and the number of Japanese began to increase. Thermae was actually a very fun place before it became a majority Asian dudes. Gals we're far more forward and aggressive not standing like wallflowers occasionally giving a smile. Girls were drinking, partying, and dancing by the jukebox. Sadly I never got to go to Thermae when it was located down the street in the Miami Hotel. It moved about a year before my first visit.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2920016]Huh? The Japanese were definitely not the first wave in Thermae. When I started going there in the late 90's there were no Japanese. They didn't arrive until about 2001 and it first there were only a few of them at the back. This changed when the coffee shop at the Siam City Hotel on Petchaburi Road closed. It was the Asian Thermae. Many of the girls there migrated and the number of Japanese began to increase. Thermae was actually a very fun place before it became a majority Asian dudes. Gals we're far more forward and aggressive not standing like wallflowers occasionally giving a smile. Girls were drinking, partying, and dancing by the jukebox. Sadly I never got to go to Thermae when it was located down the street in the Miami Hotel. It moved about a year before my first visit.[/QUOTE]You misinterpreted me Goat, or I was too obscure. I thought it was clear from the context, they were the first wave of Asians in Thermae.
THermae is still a fun place, it just lacks young partying dudes like we used to be.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2920016]Sadly I never got to go to Thermae when it was located down the street in the Miami Hotel.[/QUOTE]Just looked it up in my journal -- the last night at the old location was 13 July 1996. There was no party as such but a lot of other old Bangkok hands showed up (I still keep meeting people who say they were there) and it felt like a bit of history in the making. I've never enjoyed the new venue as much but I'm probably just getting old and cranky. And yes, no Japanese as of then. It was mostly Anglophones plus some Germans and Scandinavians.
[QUOTE=Betong;2920117]Just looked it up in my journal -- the last night at the old location was 13 July 1996. There was no party as such but a lot of other old Bangkok hands showed up (I still keep meeting people who say they were there) and it felt like a bit of history in the making. I've never enjoyed the new venue as much but I'm probably just getting old and cranky. And yes, no Japanese as of then. It was mostly Anglophones plus some Germans and Scandinavians.[/QUOTE]Only asking out of pure curiousity, nothing more sinister. Have you kept a diary / journal of all your exploits since way back to 1996 and yonder? Wow, has to be book or two of stories you could publish amongst them!
[QUOTE=CIMguy;2910053]Thanks for the heads up, both the option and the review. I'll check out their website. I may just go to Mai and Nong's place first since it's their specialty. I'll see if any girls are attractive to me and go from there. I can always try Analisa or paradise if the girls don't move me.[/QUOTE]Did you ever try Mai and Nong? If so was it worth it, any hassle getting the table into the hotel!
[QUOTE=PgReal;2920134]Did you ever try Mai and Nong? If so was it worth it, any hassle getting the table into the hotel![/QUOTE]I've had good sessions and just OK sessions. Girls are Tulips like quality. Not the best looking but most are skilled and enthusiastic. The table folds down into a portable carrying case. It's just a massage table with a strategically placed hole, so it just looks like someone bringing in a portable massage table.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2920031]You misinterpreted me Goat, or I was too obscure. I thought it was clear from the context, they were the first wave of Asians in Thermae.
THermae is still a fun place, it just lacks young partying dudes like we used to be.[/QUOTE]Ah, yes, they were the first Asians for sure. I don't find it much fun anymore truthfully, although it is a good laugh to go occasionally. I like to say Hello, to Somchai and the other waiters.
[QUOTE=Betong;2920117]Just looked it up in my journal -- the last night at the old location was 13 July 1996. There was no party as such but a lot of other old Bangkok hands showed up (I still keep meeting people who say they were there) and it felt like a bit of history in the making. I've never enjoyed the new venue as much but I'm probably just getting old and cranky. And yes, no Japanese as of then. It was mostly Anglophones plus some Germans and Scandinavians.[/QUOTE]Jealous. Would have loved to have gone there. I do feel like I got to enjoy the end of the golden age of Go-Go's and FLs. All started to take a bit of a nosedive after the 06 coup. But then after that was the heyday of the oiles up until about 2015. And then the wonderful online scene during covid.
[QUOTE=PgReal;2920132]Have you kept a diary / journal of all your exploits since way back to 1996 and yonder?[/QUOTE]Yes, every day I try to jot down at least where I am and what I'm doing. So by this point I've got a huge record of places, friends, bars, girls etc. Highlights include Ermita in the early '80's (best ever, for me), Jarkarta in the '90's (a close #2), Angeles in the final years of Clark AFB, and of course Bangkok and Pattaya over the years. It's good fun to dip back into it sometimes, though mainly makes me realize how much of my life I've spent partying!
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2920016]Huh? The Japanese were definitely not the first wave in Thermae. [/QUOTE]I echo your opinion. My first visit to the Thermae was is 1986. I recall seeing NO Asians other than the freelancers and employees.
In those days, I stayed in the Sukhumvit wing of the Ambassador Hotel (which burned down years later). At that time there was a great restaurant of huge proportions in the Sukhumvit wing. Great lunch buffet in the daytime; served food with live music and rotating singers at night. AND scores of freelancers sitting at tables by themselves or with colleagues.
One night, I noticed three guys sitting at a table with 3 freelancers. One of the guys, seeing that I was alone, motioned me over. So I joined their table. Turned out that the 3 dudes were Arabs in BKK for biz. One of the guys asked me if I'the been to the Thermae. I did not know of it. He offered to show me and, a bit reluctantly, I followed him along Sukhumvit maybe 100 yards where he turned right into a VERY dark alley. Maybe 40 yards later we were at the back of the building and it was well lit. It was obvious "something" was going on. Past the bathrooms and down the stairs, I can only describe it as a happening place! It reminded me a bit of something out of The Blade Runner. The "eye candy" quotient wasn't what it seems to be these days (if YouTube videos are accurate). I haven't been to the Thermae in maybe 3 decades. Cowboy and Nana are my "go to" venues.
Sam.
[QUOTE=Betong;2920227]Yes, every day I try to jot down at least where I am and what I'm doing. So by this point I've got a huge record of places, friends, bars, girls etc. Highlights include Ermita in the early '80's (best ever, for me), Jarkarta in the '90's (a close #2), Angeles in the final years of Clark AFB, and of course Bangkok and Pattaya over the years. It's good fun to dip back into it sometimes, though mainly makes me realize how much of my life I've spent partying![/QUOTE]I've heard great things about Korea pre-olympics. I also enjoyed Batam in the early 00s. And of course Cambo late 90s early 00s.
Was wandering around NP a couple of nights ago and there were quite a lot of girls outside the various gogos (I don't go inside often as my ear drums aren't what they use to be).
If you see a girl outside with a badge and a number can you negotiate a deal with her (without going inside), accepting that you will still have to pay the BF. I thought maybe they just put the best girls outside and it is a case of look but don't touch?
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2920371]If you see a girl outside with a badge and a number can you negotiate a deal with her (without going inside), accepting that you will still have to pay the BF.[/QUOTE]Yes of course you can ask to barfine her even if she's out on the street buying food. The prettiest girls never sit outside, in Pattaya anyways. The ones who like to be on YouTube sit outside.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2920403]even if she's out on the street buying food. [/QUOTE]Doesn't that cover most of the girls in NP?
Always amazes me that whatever time of night you wander around half of the female population is eating food. When you see what they scoff down their throats it makes you wonder why some complain about CIM.
[QUOTE=Betong;2920227]Yes, every day I try to jot down at least where I am and what I'm doing. So by this point I've got a huge record of places, friends, bars, girls etc. Highlights include Ermita in the early '80's (best ever, for me), Jarkarta in the '90's (a close #2), Angeles in the final years of Clark AFB, and of course Bangkok and Pattaya over the years. It's good fun to dip back into it sometimes, though mainly makes me realize how much of my life I've spent partying![/QUOTE]Hey could you check August 6, 1992? Were you the dude who picked me out of the dumpster and washed the vomit off with a bottle of water? Never got to Thank You.
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2920438]Doesn't that cover most of the girls in NP?
Always amazes me that whatever time of night you wander around half of the female population is eating food. When you see what they scoff down their throats it makes you wonder why some complain about CIM.[/QUOTE]Lesson No 2 for all Newbies to Thailand: Never get between a Thai girl and food.
Lesson No 1 is, of course: She doesn't love you.
Spent a few action packed days in BKK in late May. Here's a short trip summary:
Day 1: landed in BKK early and caught the train to Nana. Too early for check in so went for brekkie then to Central World and Siam Paragon for some shopping. After check in, I tried contacting an old favorite and Bangkok escort legend, Bell, without getting a reply. On reading reviews, I headed up to Butterfly to check out their line up. Ended up picking Sky, a 25 yo (I think) petite and very pretty girl with large, but very soft bolt ONS. The standard service routine, shower, short massage and cat bath, and then the real fun. BBBJ, DATY if wanted, DFK, and of course multiple positions. Would definitely repeat and would have, but will explain later (Day 3). Had dinner, watched AFL and a few beers at Down Under bar, then hit Sukhumvit and Nana to check out the freelancer talent. Found one near Soi 11, confirmed it wasn't a post op LB, and enjoyed a decent 1. 5 k service back in my room.
Day 2: a very hot and sunny day. I ended up trying 666 massage in Soi 33, again from reviews. Was shown an IPad to make my choice, but requested to see the line up before choosing. Pretty disappointed with the line up, and wished I'the left, but chose a decent looking girl with what looked like a nice body, until she undressed. Saggy tits, and very average body, I should have known the service would match! Can't do this, can't do that, sensitive tits and nipples, no DATY (not that I wanted it with her). Anyway, very disappointed with the available line up and even more with the service. That night, I picked up a free lancer outside Nana, dressed in a naughty nurse outfit. Pretty sure I've seen her mentioned in previous reports. Nice body, decent service and could not believe she's in her 40's!!
Day 3: my favourite day of the trip!!
Mid afternoon, it was raining heavily, so thought I'the go straight to Butterfly and repeat with Sky, or another from the line up. As I interned the Sou, I walked past Mango and noticed a great line up, with one hottie standing out. I went in and booked her straight away, and WIW, I'm so glad I did!! Her name was Ice, she's on their website but with her face obscured. Very pretty, extremely sexy, awesome body with be+ to see natural tits, great legs and butt. She was up for almost anything, except BBCIP, which I wasn't interested in anyway. She was easily the highlight of my trip.
I would look at booking another few days in BKK just to repeat with Ice again. Again, easily my highlight.
Spent a few action packed days in BKK in late May. Here's a short trip summary:
Day 1: landed in BKK early and caught the train to Nana. Too early for check in so went for brekkie then to Central World and Siam Paragon for some shopping. After check in, I tried contacting an old favorite and Bangkok escort legend, Bell, without getting a reply. On reading reviews, I headed up to Butterfly to check out their line up. Ended up picking Sky, a 25 yo (I think) petite and very pretty girl with large, but very soft bolt ONS. The standard service routine, shower, short massage and cat bath, and then the real fun. BBBJ, DATY if wanted, DFK, and of course multiple positions. Would definitely repeat and would have, but will explain later (Day 3). Had dinner, watched AFL and a few beers at Down Under bar, then hit Sukhumvit and Nana to check out the freelancer talent. Found one near Soi 11, confirmed it wasn't a post op LB, and enjoyed a decent 1. 5 k service back in my room.
Day 2: a very hot and sunny day. I ended up trying 666 massage in Soi 33, again from reviews. Was shown an IPad to make my choice, but requested to see the line up before choosing. Pretty disappointed with the line up, and wished I'the left, but chose a decent looking girl with what looked like a nice body, until she undressed. Saggy tits, and very average body, I should have known the service would match! Can't do this, can't do that, sensitive tits and nipples, no DATY (not that I wanted it with her). Anyway, very disappointed with the available line up and even more with the service. That night, I picked up a free lancer outside Nana, dressed in a naughty nurse outfit. Pretty sure I've seen her mentioned in previous reports. Nice body, decent service and could not believe she's in her 40's!!
Day 3: my favourite day of the trip!!
Mid afternoon, it was raining heavily, so thought I'the go straight to Butterfly and repeat with Sky, or another from the line up. As I interned the Sou, I walked past Mango and noticed a great line up, with one hottie standing out. I went in and booked her straight away, and WIW, I'm so glad I did!! Her name was Ice, she's on their website but with her face obscured. Very pretty, extremely sexy, awesome body with be+ to see natural tits, great legs and butt. She was up for almost anything, except BBCIP, which I wasn't interested in anyway. She was easily the highlight of my trip.
I would look at booking another few days in BKK just to repeat with Ice again. Again, easily my highlight.
[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2920242]I echo your opinion. My first visit to the Thermae was is 1986. I recall seeing NO Asians other than the freelancers and employees.
In those days, I stayed in the Sukhumvit wing of the Ambassador Hotel (which burned down years later). At that time there was a great restaurant of huge proportions in the Sukhumvit wing. Great lunch buffet in the daytime; served food with live music and rotating singers at night. AND scores of freelancers sitting at tables by themselves or with colleagues.
One night, I noticed three guys sitting at a table with 3 freelancers. One of the guys, seeing that I was alone, motioned me over. So I joined their table. Turned out that the 3 dudes were Arabs in BKK for biz. One of the guys asked me if I'the been to the Thermae. I did not know of it. He offered to show me and, a bit reluctantly, I followed him along Sukhumvit maybe 100 yards where he turned right into a VERY dark alley. Maybe 40 yards later we were at the back of the building and it was well lit. It was obvious "something" was going on. Past the bathrooms and down the stairs, I can only describe it as a happening place! It reminded me a bit of something out of The Blade Runner. The "eye candy" quotient wasn't what it seems to be these days (if YouTube videos are accurate). I haven't been to the Thermae in maybe 3 decades. Cowboy and Nana are my "go to" venues.
Sam.[/QUOTE]Well you are wrong too. The Japanese were the first wave of Asians in Thermae.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2920514]Were you the dude who picked me out of the dumpster and washed the vomit off with a bottle of water? Never got to Thank You.[/QUOTE]I deny everything.
Flew to BKK from MNL only 3 hours and spent four nights at Ambassador Hotel. Arrived at 4 AM and was banging some sexy street meat by 5 AM met right outside hotel for 1000 baht ($28). Where else in the world can you get it that early? Only did six girls in the four days and half were massage girls. So, you get good bang for your buck in Bang-cock. And some good meals. Too fucking hot, tho. Cheers.
[QUOTE=Cooper966;2920575]Spent a few action packed days in BKK in late May. Here's a short trip summary:
Day 1: landed in BKK early and caught the train to Nana. Too early for check in so went for brekkie then to Central World and Siam Paragon for some shopping. After check in, I tried contacting an old favorite and Bangkok escort legend, Bell, without getting a reply. On reading reviews, I headed up to Butterfly to check out their line up. Ended up picking Sky, a 25 yo (I think) petite and very pretty girl with large, but very soft bolt ONS. The standard service routine, shower, short massage and cat bath, and then the real fun. BBBJ, DATY if wanted, DFK, and of course multiple positions. Would definitely repeat and would have, but will explain later (Day 3). Had dinner, watched AFL and a few beers at Down Under bar, then hit Sukhumvit and Nana to check out the freelancer talent. Found one near Soi 11, confirmed it wasn't a post op LB, and enjoyed a decent 1. 5 k service back in my room.
Day 2: a very hot and sunny day. I ended up trying 666 massage in Soi 33, again from reviews. Was shown an IPad to make my choice, but requested to see the line up before choosing. Pretty disappointed with the line up, and wished I'the left, but chose a decent looking girl with what looked like a nice body, until she undressed. Saggy tits, and very average body, I should have known the service would match! Can't do this, can't do that, sensitive tits and nipples, no DATY (not that I wanted it with her). Anyway, very disappointed with the available line up and even more with the service. That night, I picked up a free lancer outside Nana, dressed in a naughty nurse outfit. Pretty sure I've seen her mentioned in previous reports. Nice body, decent service and could not believe she's in her 40's!!
Day 3: my favourite day of the trip!!
Mid afternoon, it was raining heavily, so thought I'the go straight to Butterfly and repeat with Sky, or another from the line up. As I interned the Sou, I walked past Mango and noticed a great line up, with one hottie standing out. I went in and booked her straight away, and WIW, I'm so glad I did!! Her name was Ice, she's on their website but with her face obscured. Very pretty, extremely sexy, awesome body with be+ to see natural tits, great legs and butt. She was up for almost anything, except BBCIP, which I wasn't interested in anyway. She was easily the highlight of my trip.
I would look at booking another few days in BKK just to repeat with Ice again. Again, easily my highlight.[/QUOTE]Schoolgirl alert! We have a customer.
She might be 50.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2920737]Schoolgirl alert! We have a customer.[/QUOTE]Since I'll be in the Sukhumvit area next week can someone remind me exactly where this girl stands. Feeling left out. I need to see her with my own eyes.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2920764]Since I'll be in the Sukhumvit area next week can someone remind me exactly where this girl stands. Feeling left out. I need to see her with my own eyes.[/QUOTE]Last sighting for me a night ago was standing on the sidewalk right outside of the Nana Plaza entrance, the side closer to Sukhumvit, at the wall of what is now the extended Stumble Inn, formerly Big Dogs beer bar.
Don't expect to turn to stone from exposing your eyes to purported hideous ugliness as is erroneously reported here. In terms of body fitness, proportions, basic facial features and bone structure, she is still way above average for the majority of Bangkok and Pattaya street girls. Beats a sizable percentage of gogo girls in both destinations as well.
No, for true hideous ugliness that might force you to avert your eyes in horror, look for me walking or riding my motorbike in the same area almost every day or night. If you really want to ruin your appetite and vacation!
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2920585]Well you are wrong too. The Japanese were the first wave of Asians in Thermae.[/QUOTE]I guess it depends on how far you want to go back. Sounds like the Thermae must've been in biz in WW 2? If not, maybe the Punjabi's were the first customers. Or the Chinese?
LOL.
Sam.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2920764]Since I'll be in the Sukhumvit area next week can someone remind me exactly where this girl stands. Feeling left out. I need to see her with my own eyes.[/QUOTE]She was across from NEP, in front of the Nana hotel sign.
She's hard to miss!!
Does anyone know any PAAG providers? (Phat Ass Asian Girl) (Asian woman with huge booty).
I've been looking, I found one through tinder, but it was a year or two ago. I heard there were some Wsw around here, if ya know any or any PAWG providers too that would be great.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2920764]Since I'll be in the Sukhumvit area next week can someone remind me exactly where this girl stands. Feeling left out. I need to see her with my own eyes.[/QUOTE]I don't know why this girl has drawn so many comments, she blends right in with the Soi 4 girls. She wears what could be a Halloween costume of a school girl, short plaid skirt. Longish scraggly black hair. Medium height and weight. Only things noteworthy is she has a flaky personality and often her mother is in parked car right next to her. Look for her near the entrance of Nana Plaze. Look for her on odd side of Sukhumvit under the stairs to Nana BTS.
Many men have talked to her, including me, nobody has openly reported on a ST or LT session with her. I once received a back channel report of an aborted ST where there was no sex nor exchange of money. Flake.
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2920866]I don't know why this girl has drawn so many comments, she blends right in with the Soi 4 girls. She wears what could be a Halloween costume of a school girl, short plaid skirt. Longish scraggly black hair. Medium height and weight. Only things noteworthy is she has a flaky personality and often her mother is in parked car right next to her. Look for her near the entrance of Nana Plaze. Look for her on odd side of Sukhumvit under the stairs to Nana BTS.
Many men have talked to her, including me, nobody has openly reported on a ST or LT session with her. I once received a back channel report of an aborted ST where there was no sex nor exchange of money. Flake.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=EihTooms;2920778]Last sighting for me a night ago was standing on the sidewalk right outside of the Nana Plaza entrance, the side closer to Sukhumvit, at the wall of what is now the extended Stumble Inn, formerly Big Dogs beer bar.
Don't expect to turn to stone from exposing your eyes to purported hideous ugliness as is erroneously reported here. In terms of body fitness, proportions, basic facial features and bone structure, she is still way above average for the majority of Bangkok and Pattaya street girls. Beats a sizable percentage of gogo girls in both destinations as well.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Vacodovacodo;2820034]Okay, I didn't expect to find it here but these posts and the video forced me to write a small story. I know this girl, probably one of the strangest people I ever met. Also she was one of my first Bangkok experiences / mongering experiences ever.
Just to make things straight, she isn't an uni girl, she claims to have some sort of college in Chumphon but I doubt it, honestly I doubt if she ever held a real job except part-time in a fast food chain. She is a bit older than she looks but she will probably refuse you to show her ID.
Also she isn't a ladyboy but she has a strange looking face because she's half Chinese (mother) and half Thai, definitely not conventionally attractive, a lot of makeup, alien looking face under it, like she looks old and young at the same time. Long time ago she had a Russian boyfriend. When I met her she was working in Crazy House (Soi Cowboy) where all girls were fully naked except a single one. Her. I wasn't sure why, perhaps because she has no boobs (I don't mean small, I really mean no, like a negative size) or perhaps she didn't want to. Also usually not going out with customers, just dancing and drinking cola. She was some sort of a coyote girl dancing there with her mother waiting nearby outside in a small Japanese black car which was equally bizarre, all windows except the front shield covered by shades, scarves, clothes and lipsticks from the inside, the car looked like a mix between a costume room, murder scene and food leftovers from a party..[/QUOTE]There is that post above explaining some parts of her personal life, from a year ago.
I never noticed a car parked nearby with her mum inside, even saw her walking on her way to soi 4 this mid afternoon, coming from Nana.
I agree with ET, her body doesn't look bad at all, at least with her cloths on, but the face doesn't look great.
Hi all,
I posted a report on the Bangkok Escorts thread, reposting it here as well with the hope to get some responses. I want to share my experience with 2 of the escort agencies in Bangkok and want to request for some recommendations of others.
From my side, I have tried two separate services and I would recommend both. Overall experience has been positive though of course individual experiences are mixed. These are:
1. Myasianfriend (earlier called ThaiTourGuide).
2. Bangkok Golden Escorts.
There are reviews on the forum for both of these services and that is why I ended up choosing them. However, I would really like to hear more about other similar or maybe even better services.
Here are my two cents about these two:
MyAsianFriend.
Over the years, I have tried 7-8 different SPs from this forum. The profile is quite diverse, there are ex-SPs, current pros and also some part-timers who have a regular job and life and are doing this for extra cash. I think this provides for a better experience than the usual working girls, almost all the ladies I tried make a genuine effort towards a connection apart from the sex. Most of the times, the sex was good, in some cases just good and in some cases great. It also seems that these girls are looking to establish some sponsorship or longer term relationship so they end up putting in a little more effort.
Most of the ladies are somewhat older, in the 30-45 year age group. I think a general rule of thumb is to add 3-5 years to whatever age is advertised on the website. In all the 7-8 experiences I found no bait-and-switch, though some of the SPs did have heavily enhanced photos on the website and the actual appearance turned out to be different. Most women I met seemed somewhat (though not drastically) older than advertised but for me that is OK. In one occasion I also found that the girl was actually much prettier than her photos.
Another flip side of this site is the pricing, it is clearly 1. 5-2 X of similar SPs in other parts of the city. The girls have uniformly good service and usually arrived on time, and most importantly all girls were very friendly and pleasant. But I think given overall pricing there could be other services that give better bang for buck.
In a majority of occasions when I booked someone it went smoothly though on 1-2 occasions they did cancel. They informed in advance when this happened.
I continue to use this service and they have constantly evolving set of providers that maintains some novelty. Based on this if anyone wants to try out this service I would recommend looking at photos of the providers and also read the "about" section well, it would give a better idea about the person you are meeting.
You would not find any stunners here, but regular girl / lady next door types.
Bangkok Golden Escorts.
There are a few reviews about this service going back to a few years. I have tried them on 3 occasions and found some girls to be strictly OK and some to be really good. I am not making specific recommendations here, because all girls were uniformly pleasant and sincere and I think the difference in quality of experience is my perception rather than any lack of effort or any special effort from the girl. The famous Bell, sadly is no longer working there. The selection is very small, the website lists about 10 girls and I think actually at any time 3-4 may be available. I found no bait-and-switch on the 3 occasions, girls seemed to be well trained and professional and also accommodating. They are likely looking to establish repeat business which works well for both sides.
Apart from the very limited options amongst girls, the prices are also steep. I think the website depends largely on loyals and they can affort to keep rates high. Girls arrived on time, did not demand any extras and were thorough.
So there it is. Looking for some reciprocity and recommendations!
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I am PAAG lover too but they are very rare breed in Thailand.
Most fat ass Thai girls are actully fat.
Unlike Africa skinny black girl with big fat ass. Thais are known to be thick but I am not attached to thick or fatties.
You are looking for needle in haystack in those countries.
[QUOTE=PopUpMenu123;2920861]Does anyone know any PAAG providers? (Phat Ass Asian Girl) (Asian woman with huge booty).
I've been looking, I found one through tinder, but it was a year or two ago. I heard there were some Wsw around here, if ya know any or any PAWG providers too that would be great.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2920764]Since I'll be in the Sukhumvit area next week can someone remind me exactly where this girl stands. Feeling left out. I need to see her with my own eyes.[/QUOTE]Ill be there next weekend. Ill find her and direct tourists to her spot.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2920778]Last sighting for me a night ago was standing on the sidewalk right outside of the Nana Plaza entrance, the side closer to Sukhumvit, at the wall of what is now the extended Stumble Inn, formerly Big Dogs beer bar.
Don't expect to turn to stone from exposing your eyes to purported hideous ugliness as is erroneously reported here. In terms of body fitness, proportions, basic facial features and bone structure, she is still way above average for the majority of Bangkok and Pattaya street girls. Beats a sizable percentage of gogo girls in both destinations as well.
No, for true hideous ugliness that might force you to avert your eyes in horror, look for me walking or riding my motorbike in the same area almost every day or night. If you really want to ruin your appetite and vacation![/QUOTE]Waaay above average from 50 yards away. Go for the close up. Take a whiff.
Dude, don't even think of taking my ugly crown away from me. Now you are forcing me to stop bathing so that folks get the fullest possible effect both visually and olactory.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2921002]Waaay above average from 50 yards away. Go for the close up. Take a whiff.
Dude, don't even think of taking my ugly crown away from me. Now you are forcing me to stop bathing so that folks get the fullest possible effect both visually and olactory.[/QUOTE]Over the years, I have seen her up close many times in the various bars and venues she has worked and elsewhere, including a short stint for her as a Greeter just inside Nana Plaza for one of the bars. I can't say I have whiffed anything unusual on or about her. I don't know if I would consider her face to be pretty. I have seen some occasional skin / slight acne issues, but not that very much as I pass by, nod and smile Hello, lately.
However, I stand by my judgement of her body fitness relative to most other street girls and many gogo girls. And her basic bone structure, facial features and so on are quite alright. There is nothing objectionable about her in that way, no giant lantern jaw, pelican nose, misshapen head, overly fat cheeks or anything of the kind.
I recall one of the Schoolgirl critics here rating her a 3 or something similar. Good lord. I have seen street girls out there who resembled the late great Ernest Borgnine in drag. I mean real females. And several gogo girls not far behind. What on earth would they rate? A minus 7?
Now, the only reason I might not be able to take the ugly crown away from you in terms of causing women to recoil in horror at the idea of having Real Sex with me for any amount of money is because I have a secret weapon I hope offsets any downside from my hideous ugliness and offensive body odor; my belligerent, surly, judgemental, critical and negative personality.
[QUOTE=CuttySark;2920950]Hi all,
I posted a report on the Bangkok Escorts thread, reposting it here as well with the hope to get some responses. I want to share my experience with 2 of the escort agencies in Bangkok and want to request for some recommendations of others.
From my side, I have tried two separate services and I would recommend both. Overall experience has been positive though of course individual experiences are mixed. These are:
1. Myasianfriend (earlier called ThaiTourGuide).
2. Bangkok Golden Escorts.
There are reviews on the forum for both of these services and that is why I ended up choosing them. However, I would really like to hear more about other similar or maybe even better services.
Here are my two cents about these two:.[/QUOTE]I've used Golden escorts a couple of times, since the raids last Sept / Oct them seem by the look of the website to be operating with less girls now.
I found them good, the girls arrived, put 100% effort in, no rush, very courtuous and I would repeat with them. There was one real spinner but I can't for the life of me remember her name. She is not on the site anymore. I used to see her advertised on Smocci too, but she is gone from that also.
I thought considering you have the convenience of them coming to your hotel and you kind of know what you'll get (in comparison to TF or Fiwfans etc) the price is OK especially if you are just on a short visit to BKK or an occasional visitor like me.
What I would not recommend, is their "lesbian duo" service, overpriced and when I did it once, the girls hadn't been told and didn't know each other. They won't touch each other even. I don't bother with such 3'somes anymore, waste of money.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2921037]Over the years, I have seen her up close many times in the various bars and venues she has worked and elsewhere, including a short stint for her as a Greeter just inside Nana Plaza for one of the bars. I can't say I have whiffed anything unusual on or about her. I don't know if I would consider her face to be pretty. I have seen some occasional skin / slight acne issues, but not that very much as I pass by, nod and smile Hello, lately.
However, I stand by my judgement of her body fitness relative to most other street girls and many gogo girls. And her basic bone structure, facial features and so on are quite alright. There is nothing objectionable about her in that way, no giant lantern jaw, pelican nose, misshapen head, overly fat cheeks or anything of the kind.
I recall one of the Schoolgirl critics here rating her a 3 or something similar. Good lord. I have seen street girls out there who resembled the late great Ernest Borgnine in drag. I mean real females. And several gogo girls not far behind. What on earth would they rate? A minus 7?
Now, the only reason I might not be able to take the ugly crown away from you in terms of causing women to recoil in horror at the idea of having Real Sex with me for any amount of money is because I have a secret weapon I hope offsets any downside from my hideous ugliness and offensive body odor; my belligerent, surly, judgemental, critical and negative personality.[/QUOTE]Personality? You are a tyro. Mine is so foul I'm considering leaving this forum because they would allow someone like me to be a member.
[QUOTE=Cooper966;2920575]Spent a few action packed days in BKK in late May. Here's a short trip summary:
Day 1: landed in BKK early and caught the train to Nana. Too early for check in so went for brekkie then to Central World and Siam Paragon for some shopping. After check in, I tried contacting an old favorite and Bangkok escort legend, Bell, without getting a reply. On reading reviews, I headed up to Butterfly to check out their line up. Ended up picking Sky, a 25 yo (I think) petite and very pretty girl with large, but very soft bolt ONS. The standard service routine, shower, short massage and cat bath, and then the real fun. BBBJ, DATY if wanted, DFK, and of course multiple positions. Would definitely repeat and would have, but will explain later (Day 3). Had dinner, watched AFL and a few beers at Down Under bar, then hit Sukhumvit and Nana to check out the freelancer talent. Found one near Soi 11, confirmed it wasn't a post op LB, and enjoyed a decent 1. 5 k service back in my room..[/QUOTE]What are these 2 places Butterfly and Mango? Massage parlours or bars?
[QUOTE=HornyCock;2921233]What are these 2 places Butterfly and Mango? Massage parlours or bars?[/QUOTE]You couldn't take the time to even look on Google maps?
Or.
RTFF.
[QUOTE=HornyCock;2921233]What are these 2 places Butterfly and Mango? Massage parlours or bars?[/QUOTE]Butterfly Bangkok: [URL]https://butterflybangkok.com/[/URL].
Mango: [URL]https://mangomassagebangkok.com/[/URL].
Google is your friend.
Is this the current prices in Bangkok for an ugly overwieght girl? 3000 baht.
[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;2921360]Is this the current prices in Bangkok for an ugly overwieght girl? 3000 baht.[/QUOTE]If someone will pay her that then it sure is.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2920515]Lesson No 2 for all Newbies to Thailand: Never get between a Thai girl and food.
Lesson No 1 is, of course: She doesn't love you.[/QUOTE]Actually a few times I have picked them up while they were eating. Meaning spotted a girl or two that I really fancy eating street food on the side Sois. Sat on the table nearby, ordered something for myself then chatted up a conversation (food is spicy, is the pad Thai good blah blah) ultimately offering to pay for their meal and go back to the hotel short time after. If they are P4 P it's a sure shot.
[QUOTE=MohdirFan82;2920973]I am PAAG lover too but they are very rare breed in Thailand.
Most fat ass Thai girls are actully fat.
Unlike Africa skinny black girl with big fat ass. Thais are known to be thick but I am not attached to thick or fatties.
You are looking for needle in haystack in those countries.[/QUOTE]Yes, they are very rare. You can barely find them on social media LOL.
There's very few. I've on seen 1-2 PAAGs on social media, like nnnnekochan, she's obviously had a BBL but I don't care. I've noticed some Chinese tend to be thicker. But otherwise it's like extremely rare, let alone any one of them who are in this business. I might know one or two if anyone's interested, I think one of them does it. But she's super discreet. I'll have to ask her. And the other one, I'm not sure if she's in the game anymore. I did get one who was from the Philippines, but she again. Super rare. On top of that she's trying to milk me haha.
[QUOTE=SexIsLove;2921401]Actually a few times I have picked them up while they were eating. Meaning spotted a girl or two that I really fancy eating street food on the side Sois. Sat on the table nearby, ordered something for myself then chatted up a conversation (food is spicy, is the pad Thai good blah blah) ultimately offering to pay for their meal and go back to the hotel short time after. If they are P4 P it's a sure shot.[/QUOTE]Good move you let them eat. Don't get between them and the food.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2920152]Jealous. Would have loved to have gone there. I do feel like I got to enjoy the end of the golden age of Go-Go's and FLs. All started to take a bit of a nosedive after the 06 coup. But then after that was the heyday of the oiles up until about 2015. And then the wonderful online scene during covid.[/QUOTE]Download of Thai sex industry. The Coup started it no doubt in my mind.
[QUOTE=DCups;2920719]Flew to BKK from MNL only 3 hours and spent four nights at Ambassador Hotel. Arrived at 4 AM and was banging some sexy street meat by 5 AM met right outside hotel for 1000 baht ($28). Where else in the world can you get it that early? Only did six girls in the four days and half were massage girls. So, you get good bang for your buck in Bang-cock. And some good meals. Too fucking hot, tho. Cheers.[/QUOTE]1 k is great price. Was he or she HOT?
[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2920866]I don't know why this girl has drawn so many comments, she blends right in with the Soi 4 girls. She wears what could be a Halloween costume of a school girl, short plaid skirt. Longish scraggly black hair. Medium height and weight. Only things noteworthy is she has a flaky personality and often her mother is in parked car right next to her. Look for her near the entrance of Nana Plaze. Look for her on odd side of Sukhumvit under the stairs to Nana BTS.
Many men have talked to her, including me, nobody has openly reported on a ST or LT session with her. I once received a back channel report of an aborted ST where there was no sex nor exchange of money. Flake.[/QUOTE]School Girl does not Blend in.
She stands out from all the REST.
[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;2921360]Is this the current prices in Bangkok for an ugly overwieght girl? 3000 baht.[/QUOTE]Yes.
It's not out of line.
Someone wrote a St with Nana Plaza girls is 175 USA dollars. Use that as Baseline.
[QUOTE=UglyAzzMan;2921468]Yes.
It's not out of line.
Someone wrote a St with Nana Plaza girls is 175 USA dollars. Use that as Baseline.[/QUOTE]Actually, it's closer to $100, $106 if you buy her a lady drink first. Only Billboard tries to charge $28 more.
[QUOTE=UglyAzzMan;2921468]Yes.
It's not out of line.
Someone wrote a St with Nana Plaza girls is 175 USA dollars. Use that as Baseline.[/QUOTE]Why would anyone pay her that when you can go and see sidelines for half the price? She is ugly and overweight.
Guys that pay her that must be total fucking retards. Its way out of line!!
Thaimen would not even pay her 1000 baht.
So many idiots in Thailand now spreading their money around.
[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;2921506]Why would anyone pay her that when you can go and see sidelines for half the price? She is ugly and overweight.
Guys that pay her that must be total fucking retards. Its way out of line!!
Thaimen would not even pay her 1000 baht.
So many idiots in Thailand now spreading their money around.[/QUOTE]What are you ranting about? Pay who?
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2921484]Actually, it's closer to $100, $106 if you buy her a lady drink first. Only Billboard tries to charge $28 more.[/QUOTE]There are several in Billboard I like, but the bar fine pisses me off.
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2921484]Actually, it's closer to $100, $106 if you buy her a lady drink first. Only Billboard tries to charge $28 more.[/QUOTE]Actually I meant $150.
1000 barfine. 3 k to girl. 400 baht for for room. $ at why $25 for 3 drinks.
5,200 divide by 35 equals $148.
Please no more what Thai men pay. That's silly. Hot girls at Nana aren't taking on 1,000 baht Thai men.
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2921484]Actually, it's closer to $100, $106 if you buy her a lady drink first. Only Billboard tries to charge $28 more.[/QUOTE]You've got to be pretty determined to decide in barfining her over the first lady drink only (unless you already know her).
Do you mean the barfine in Billboard is 2 K and every other places is still 1 K?
Yesterday night I had a drink in Red Dragon and been surrounded by 4 or 5 girls (very average) from the beginning, begging for drinks, they were pretty annoying.
[QUOTE=UglyAzzMan;2921533]Actually I meant $150.
1000 barfine. 3 k to girl. 400 baht for for room. $ at why $25 for 3 drinks.
5,200 divide by 35 equals $148.
Please no more what Thai men pay. That's silly. Hot girls at Nana aren't taking on 1,000 baht Thai men.[/QUOTE]Are you in Bangkok? Where do you get 35? It's 36.7 today. I don't need a room.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2921613]You've got to be pretty determined to decide in barfining her over the first lady drink only (unless you already know her).
Do you mean the barfine in Billboard is 2 K and every other places is still 1 K?
Yesterday night I had a drink in Red Dragon and been surrounded by 4 or 5 girls (very average) from the beginning, begging for drinks, they were pretty annoying.[/QUOTE]The barfine in Billboard is not 2 k it's 700ST and 1,000 LT. Billboard has instructed their girls to demand 4,000 baht for ST instead of the standard 3,000. , some girls will accept 3,000 but others are sticking to the 4 K.
When you visit the bars often you know which girls to barfine.
So this one is pretty good. I had to be in that area every day for a couple of weeks, with work in the morning and late afternoon which left me a neat little slot post lunch for playing. Added their line, they sent the actual line up. I think the girls start coming in about 3 pm or so, so earlier slots don't have as much choice. They have 3 types of rooms, shower, bath and jaccuzi. Shower is too cramped for me, bath is perfect size and jacuzzi is not worth it. Girls are looking to please. I happened to pick one on my first day that was ok with anal for a bit extra money (extra 1 k for 90 minutes session). Decent skills and they'll shower you thoroughly without you lifting a finger. You can even smoke in the room if you like. With the girl I picked it was a fairly surprising PSE. So the rest of the days I went, just picked the same one. One day she wasn't available, so picked another girl. Except for no anal, she was very good too. Both the girls I tried were ok for BBBJ (I just do CBJ), both enthusiastic riders, slim, white skin and energetic. None of the girls there are stunners though, but all solid mid range.
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2921648]The barfine in Billboard is not 2 k it's 700ST and 1,000 LT. Billboard has instructed their girls to demand 4,000 baht for ST instead of the standard 3,000. , some girls will accept 3,000 but others are sticking to the 4 K.[/QUOTE]Thanks, that's good info I was thinking in barfining a girl over there but I don't see her often.
Tonight I had a look at soi Cowboy for the first time in years. Had a look at two bars (Suzy Wong and Shark) and had been received the same way in both places. A rude waitress wouldn't even allow to spend 5 seconds looking at the talent before sitting down and buying a drink. Told them to fuck off in both places. Never had a good experience in Baccara or Crazy house in the past, so didn't want to look them this time. Every other bars looked to be ladyboy bars or the scammer's bar. Seems that the whole soi turned to a rip off place.
[QUOTE=UglyAzzMan;2921465]1 k is great price. Was he or she HOT?[/QUOTE]Not hot but nice body. I give her 6 in looks and 7 in performance. She also gave a nice massage.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2921684]Tonight I had a look at soi Cowboy for the first time in years. Had a look at two bars (Suzy Wong and Shark) and had been received the same way in both places. A rude waitress wouldn't even allow to spend 5 seconds looking at the talent before sitting down and buying a drink. Told them to fuck off in both places. Never had a good experience in Baccara or Crazy house in the past, so didn't want to look them this time. Every other bars looked to be ladyboy bars or the scammer's bar. Seems that the whole soi turned to a rip off place.[/QUOTE]I don't waste any time tjhere at all.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2921684]Tonight I had a look at soi Cowboy for the first time in years. Had a look at two bars (Suzy Wong and Shark) and had been received the same way in both places. A rude waitress wouldn't even allow to spend 5 seconds looking at the talent before sitting down and buying a drink. Told them to fuck off in both places. Never had a good experience in Baccara or Crazy house in the past, so didn't want to look them this time. Every other bars looked to be ladyboy bars or the scammer's bar. Seems that the whole soi turned to a rip off place.[/QUOTE]Might I suggest that again your opinion is not the case for many.
I was in Soi Cowboy under a month ago.
Yes, Crazy Horse is still crazy as, and not my popular choice, tho I did find Baccara to still be OK but as not as good as in the past.
And yes there are scammy bars to avoid, with any of the bars where the girls outside, and inside, are wearing pantyhose, like Spice Girls, should be totally avoided as the prices you will get quoted are outrageous with LD's at 300 baht, and doubles served.
However, that is a long way from the whole Soi being a total ripoff as you declare.
Tilac is still as good as it always has been, and the little single frontage gogos, Jungle Jims, Moonshine, others, and my alltime favorite AfterSkool, are still as straight laced non-scammy as ever.
AfterSkool still has cheap drinks, both customers and LD's, plus the naughty corner BBBJ's can still be had at 1000 baht per girl, for one or two girls, and the night I was in there many of the girls were solid 6-7 lookers, and I find them to be great fun times, straight shooting, no games to be with. Plus their blowjob performances clearly outranked many of the blowjob bars around Sukhumvit.
Haven't been to Thailand in years and hoping to correct that later this year.
Is it worth going in September? I know it's supposed to be 'rainy season' but is it a downer and not worth going? That's the best window for me going at this point.
For reference, I was in Pattaya in about 1990 and it was amazing. I know it's not the same but I wanted to give Bangkok a go.
[QUOTE=Bugged;2921983]Haven't been to Thailand in years and hoping to correct that later this year.
Is it worth going in September? I know it's supposed to be 'rainy season' but is it a downer and not worth going? That's the best window for me going at this point.
For reference, I was in Pattaya in about 1990 and it was amazing. I know it's not the same but I wanted to give Bangkok a go.[/QUOTE]Rain should not deter you from making your trip. Rains do not affect day to day life of locals or tourists. Don't be in two minds, book your tickets and hotel.
On a recent trip to BKK, I went to Levels Club on Soi 11. A fair share of the girls there are freelancers. The selection varies but I found some to be really good looking and easy to chat with. The crowds get pretty large there. It's easier to pick up a girl here than in other clubs in the immediate area with the exception of the beer bars.
[QUOTE=Ranvir226;2922058]Rain should not deter you from making your trip. Rains do not affect day to day life of locals or tourists. Don't be in two minds, book your tickets and hotel.[/QUOTE]It is rainy season now, the weather report announces daily thunderstorms and it has rained today for the first time in a week. For half an hour. LOL.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2921684]Tonight I had a look at soi Cowboy for the first time in years. Had a look at two bars (Suzy Wong and Shark) and had been received the same way in both places. A rude waitress wouldn't even allow to spend 5 seconds looking at the talent before sitting down and buying a drink. Told them to fuck off in both places. Never had a good experience in Baccara or Crazy house in the past, so didn't want to look them this time. Every other bars looked to be ladyboy bars or the scammer's bar. Seems that the whole soi turned to a rip off place.[/QUOTE]May be you should go to evening classes where they teach you about statistics. That way you will realise the dangers of forming conclusions from very small data sets.
[QUOTE=Bugged;2921983]Haven't been to Thailand in years and hoping to correct that later this year.
Is it worth going in September? I know it's supposed to be 'rainy season' but is it a downer and not worth going? That's the best window for me going at this point.
For reference, I was in Pattaya in about 1990 and it was amazing. I know it's not the same but I wanted to give Bangkok a go.[/QUOTE]I am in Thailand now and was having the same quandary as you about visiting in the rainy season. The Thai met office must have purchased a job lot of thunder and lightning stickers, because they appear to be on display everywhere.
It rained heavy when I arrived BKK on 3rd, and then virtually nothing during my trip to Hua Hin. Coming back to BKK today it p*ssed it down part way along the route, but clear when I arrived at my hotel. We've had a few spots this afternoon and evening.
So I'm staying in a hotel on Soi 8 and having porked a TF girl earlier in the night I'm having a couple of pints in one of the larger sports bars just down the road.
While I'm having my first pint a middle aged white guy comes in with a couple of black girls (difficult to see how good looking they are as they have big frizzy afros covering their face). One of the girls sits next to the guy, and he cuddles her and rubs her back from time to time (I assume they are an item). The other girl sits on the opposite side of the table, and they have a bottle of wine and some food. After a while the girl who is sat next to the guy goes to the toilet. As soon as she is out of site the guy get some money out of his pocket and slides it across the table to the other girl. He makes a gesture for her to keep quiet about it.
If they're having a threesome then just get on with it. If not what is the point of funding 2 girls if you're only shagging one of them?
Let's start with the positive. Tons and tons of girls at Thermae tonight. Quite a lot of decent ones too. Sadly tons and tons of guys too.
Maybe no one goes to Thermae or maybe no one goes for the TOP girls at Thermae. Well it looks like 3500 is the new 3000 from the old 2500, at least with the TOP tier Thermae girls. And no these weren't girls who didn't make eye contact with me and didn't want to go with me. They were girls who were very flirty and smiley with me. Yes, they want 3500 baht now.
Watched one girl reject at least 6 guys within minutes of her sitting down. I just thought to myself not another one of these girls who only look for a Japanese in there early 20's. The rejected guys all Japanese guys all 40+ and one farang in his 60's (good for him having the balls to approach her). Then I said I need to find out what's going on cause she's too hot for guys to be walking away. I said Hi she was friendly. Small talk. Upstairs I said. Sure she said. As I start walking away thinking that was simple she grabs me and says she is 3500 baht, Huh? I figured she knew she was by far the hottest girl at Thermae so figured she can pull in 3500. I was dumfounded (never heard 3500 being reported here) and stumbled saying let me think a minute. As I took a step back a Japanese guy in his 20's immediately grabbed her and off she went. There was no price discussion or any discussion at all. Not even a Hello! He just pointed upstairs. Well lesson learned but I assume I can go with her tomorrow. Did I miss reports of the TOP Thermae girls going for 3500?
Watched another pretty girl walk in the bar and she smiled as she passed me. I chased after her but some young'un Japanese guy in his 20s scooped her up. She hadn't been in the bar for 10 seconds! Hate when it's so crowded I'm going at 8 tomorrow! Those skinny Japanese guys move quick through a crowd like a Ninja.
Quite a few older Farang in there tonight as well as Indian guys. Didn't see any pull a girl from the bar. Saw lots of head turns. I had 1 head turn from a girl I would have went with.
Will be there again tomorrow. I can't go to gogo bars this week as I'm getting over some respiratory issue from Jakarta pollution and smoke in the bars.
Move through a crowd like a Ninja -.
That made me LOL.
3500 is that short time? Wowza. I guess, in the western world, that would still be cheap (I did pay a Thai bird (at Thermae) 5 K for medium time 7 years ago). Seems we've had monster inflation for P4 P over the last several years.
Must be all that QE and city bankers throwing money around like confetti-.
[QUOTE=BrodyasinChief;2922207]3500 is that short time? Wowza. [/QUOTE]No. Most are still 2500 to 3000.3500 for the top few percent maybe?
The girls were desperate tonight. Some really cute young girls with nice bodies just sitting around for a long time. All smiles to at least me anyways. I saw a few pretty girls who many guys asked and no one went with them. I can only assume they were asking 3500 as well. it may take a month or 3 but that 3500 ST will stick with the above average Thermae girls. They just let the prettiest ones condition guys that 3500 is the new black.
Did I ever see a lot of guys hanging around outside Thermae tonight hitting on all those ladyboys. It's become ladyboy central outside Thermae now.
I'm planning a trip in the next few months. I'm a total rookie and have never been to Thailand. My plan was to just show up and play it by year. Make it an adventure with zero plans. However I'm thinking if I do that I should probably at least have a Airbnb option if I want a guaranteed place to stay and make the rest of trip unplanned. Any good Bankok as well as pattyaya and Phuket Airbnb options that were good for you and no issue bringing back a girl?
Thank you everyone for the responses. I'll not worry about the rainy season when I plan my trip. Hopefully be there in September this year. Really looking forward to it.
I'm fine with the Hotter girls getting 3. 5 k while the rest get less.
What happens at a place like Rainbows is when the fully ugly charges the same prices as the Superstar they get NO customers.
Not all Girls are created equal as a few members in Pattaya might believe.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2922199]Let's start with the positive. Tons and tons of girls at Thermae tonight. Quite a lot of decent ones too. Sadly tons and tons of guys too.
Maybe no one goes to Thermae or maybe no one goes for the TOP girls at Thermae. Well it looks like 3500 is the new 3000 from the old 2500, at least with the TOP tier Thermae girls. And no these weren't girls who didn't make eye contact with me and didn't want to go with me. They were girls who were very flirty and smiley with me. Yes, they want 3500 baht now.
Watched one girl reject at least 6 guys within minutes of her sitting down. I just thought to myself not another one of these girls who only look for a Japanese in there early 20's. The rejected guys all Japanese guys all 40+ and one farang in his 60's (good for him having the balls to approach her). Then I said I need to find out what's going on cause she's too hot for guys to be walking away. I said Hi she was friendly. Small talk. Upstairs I said. Sure she said. As I start walking away thinking that was simple she grabs me and says she is 3500 baht, Huh? I figured she knew she was by far the hottest girl at Thermae so figured she can pull in 3500. I was dumfounded (never heard 3500 being reported here) and stumbled saying let me think a minute. As I took a step back a Japanese guy in his 20's immediately grabbed her and off she went. There was no price discussion or any discussion at all. Not even a Hello! He just pointed upstairs. Well lesson learned but I assume I can go with her tomorrow. Did I miss reports of the TOP Thermae girls going for 3500?
Watched another pretty girl walk in the bar and she smiled as she passed me. I chased after her but some young'un Japanese guy in his 20s scooped her up. She hadn't been in the bar for 10 seconds! Hate when it's so crowded I'm going at 8 tomorrow! Those skinny Japanese guys move quick through a crowd like a Ninja.
Quite a few older Farang in there tonight as well as Indian guys. Didn't see any pull a girl from the bar. Saw lots of head turns. I had 1 head turn from a girl I would have went with.
Will be there again tomorrow. I can't go to gogo bars this week as I'm getting over some respiratory issue from Jakarta pollution and smoke in the bars.[/QUOTE]Great report. I'm on my way for this weekend.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2922199]Let's start with the positive. Tons and tons of girls at Thermae tonight. Quite a lot of decent ones too. Sadly tons and tons of guys too.
Maybe no one goes to Thermae or maybe no one goes for the TOP girls at Thermae. Well it looks like 3500 is the new 3000 from the old 2500, at least with the TOP tier Thermae girls. And no these weren't girls who didn't make eye contact with me and didn't want to go with me. They were girls who were very flirty and smiley with me. Yes, they want 3500 baht now.
Watched one girl reject at least 6 guys within minutes of her sitting down. I just thought to myself not another one of these girls who only look for a Japanese in there early 20's. The rejected guys all Japanese guys all 40+ and one farang in his 60's (good for him having the balls to approach her). Then I said I need to find out what's going on cause she's too hot for guys to be walking away. I said Hi she was friendly. Small talk. Upstairs I said. Sure she said. As I start walking away thinking that was simple she grabs me and says she is 3500 baht, Huh? I figured she knew she was by far the hottest girl at Thermae so figured she can pull in 3500. I was dumfounded (never heard 3500 being reported here) and stumbled saying let me think a minute. As I took a step back a Japanese guy in his 20's immediately grabbed her and off she went. There was no price discussion or any discussion at all. Not even a Hello! He just pointed upstairs. Well lesson learned but I assume I can go with her tomorrow. Did I miss reports of the TOP Thermae girls going for 3500?...[/QUOTE]I've seen one girl that stays near the first table on the left and she's always turning down guys but I still see her get a few customers when i stay there longer than an hour. A little taller than the avg thai girl and seen her a few times my last few trips but not everyday. I eventually asked her and she's only one that quoted me 3500, well there was another that quoted 4500 LOL, guess just was trying to be nice and didn't to go with me. Noticed she always pointed up for Ruamchatt, and charged more if you wanted her to walk somewhere else. Quote was 3500 upstairs for 4000 to my hotel. That sound like the 3500 girl? I saw her in some youtubes videos let me see if I can find it.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2922208]No. Most are still 2500 to 3000.3500 for the top few percent maybe?
The girls were desperate tonight. Some really cute young girls with nice bodies just sitting around for a long time. All smiles to at least me anyways. I saw a few pretty girls who many guys asked and no one went with them. I can only assume they were asking 3500 as well. it may take a month or 3 but that 3500 ST will stick with the above average Thermae girls. They just let the prettiest ones condition guys that 3500 is the new black.
Did I ever see a lot of guys hanging around outside Thermae tonight hitting on all those ladyboys. It's become ladyboy central outside Thermae now.[/QUOTE]Did you ever get the impression via body language or length of time in the discussion that some of the girls, including the TOP tier ones and / or the desperate ones, and customers were rejecting offers based on something other than the difference between 2,500 baht and 3,500 baht?
Such as, drum roll please, BBFS or not, BBBJ+CIM or not? Yes, even the typically or at least previously low demand Asian guys?
Could be a 45% increase in quotes and non negotiable price expectations has caused a lot of customers to expect at least a 45% improvement in the experience, even among the supposedly low demand weekend or year 'round millionaires.
I mean, I am not Elon Musk but I do alright and I would not hesitate after perhaps one try at a 500 baht reduction to happily agree to 3,500 baht for BBFS+CIP with a TOP tier girl in Thermae. But I would just smile and walk away from her and any other girl in the place as fast as you saw the rejections flying if she said "No" to DFK, BBBJ and BBFS+CIP even if by some weird fluke a TOP tier girl's quote was only 100 baht.
Wasn't there at least some indication of those kind of things being the deal killers for either side rather than simply that she would not budge from 3,500 or 3,000 and he would not budge from 2,500?
Need some suggestion, if I get stuck in Bangkok and need to stay overnight. I usually stay near Nana, Majestic Suite, or Nana Hotel, but thinking about changing up.
Alternatives, when ever in town I do visit Therma but never had pull athough I have many choices usually by that time I've already empty the chambers and just look. But if I do need to stay thinking.
A. Ruamchit Hotel.
B. Nana or Majestic again.
C. Soi 8, Sawasdee Hotel looks ok but far down the Soi.
D. Ambassdor Hotel Soi 11, has club Levels?
E. Soi 22 of options with massage places.
I don't do LT, just a place to catch shut eyes for a few hours and take shower.
Thanks in advance.
LBM and BroncosRob, Try the existing Bangkok Hotels thread. All your questions and way more are answered there. In case you can't find the thread, [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1029-Bangkok-Hotels[/URL]
LCale, that's not her but as I mentioned there's a few 3500 girls now. She has a few average friends and sits with them on the right side at the "entrance" to the inner bar circle (the circle where the oldies stand). She's not really in the open if you are just making the clockwise circle as the pole and girls standing in front of her will block her. She looks "mixed" or Indonesian (but isn't) with imo a true model face. For me she is a true head turner.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2922299]Need some suggestion, if I get stuck in Bangkok and need to stay overnight. I usually stay near Nana, Majestic Suite, or Nana Hotel, but thinking about changing up.
Alternatives, when ever in town I do visit Therma but never had pull athough I have many choices usually by that time I've already empty the chambers and just look. But if I do need to stay thinking.
A. Ruamchit Hotel.
B. Nana or Majestic again.
C. Soi 8, Sawasdee Hotel looks ok but far down the Soi.
D. Ambassdor Hotel Soi 11, has club Levels?
E. Soi 22 of options with massage places.
I don't do LT, just a place to catch shut eyes for a few hours and take shower.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]The SUB would stay at Orchid Place. Not a bad value at all. Expedia it.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2922299]Need some suggestion, if I get stuck in Bangkok and need to stay overnight. I usually stay near Nana, Majestic Suite, or Nana Hotel, but thinking about changing up.
Alternatives, when ever in town I do visit Therma but never had pull athough I have many choices usually by that time I've already empty the chambers and just look. But if I do need to stay thinking.
A. Ruamchit Hotel.
B. Nana or Majestic again.
C. Soi 8, Sawasdee Hotel looks ok but far down the Soi.
D. Ambassdor Hotel Soi 11, has club Levels?
E. Soi 22 of options with massage places.
I don't do LT, just a place to catch shut eyes for a few hours and take shower.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Seeing the hotels you like I would recommend dynasty inn on soi 4 , great location, the patio out front is great for a beer and people watching!! Enjoy have fun! Please don't stay at the roach 🪳 infested nana hotel seems like they will never get rid of them!
[QUOTE=Bugged;2921983]Haven't been to Thailand in years and hoping to correct that later this year.
Is it worth going in September? I know it's supposed to be 'rainy season' but is it a downer and not worth going? That's the best window for me going at this point.
For reference, I was in Pattaya in about 1990 and it was amazing. I know it's not the same but I wanted to give Bangkok a go.[/QUOTE]I've been going in September for the last number of years and love it. It's still blooming hot and the rain is hot too! Don't bother packing a rain jacket as you just get way too sweaty. A simple umbrella will do, I was walking around last September at night in shorts / t-shirt in the lashing rain & an umbrella and no-issues. Most hotels will even lend you an Umbrella. During the day it hardly rained at all last September and if I recall correctly the previous year in my week late September it barely rained for the whole week.
Obviously in the lashings of rain there will be less freelancers etc out on the streets, but there were still enough and you have the places like Thermae and other bars to find them not to mention online.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2922303]LBM and BroncosRob, Try the existing Bangkok Hotels thread. All your questions and way more are answered there. In case you can't find the thread, [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1029-Bangkok-Hotels[/URL]
LCale, that's not her but as I mentioned there's a few 3500 girls now. She has a few average friends and sits with them on the right side at the "entrance" to the inner bar circle (the circle where the oldies stand). She's not really in the open if you are just making the clockwise circle as the pole and girls standing in front of her will block her. She looks "mixed" or Indonesian (but isn't) with imo a true model face. For me she is a true head turner.[/QUOTE]Thanks my bag Bangkok Hotel!
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2922199]Let's start with the positive. Tons and tons of girls at Thermae tonight. Quite a lot of decent ones too. Sadly tons and tons of guys too.
[/QUOTE]I tried at Thermae a few times but never connected. One cute little thing with nice tits told me I was too big. Geez I got to little belly but not enough to be called fat. It's ok. I found one right outside Thermae who was probably 70 pounds with 10 pounds of tits and she fucked me like her life depended on it! Cheers!
Are there Pattaya style gents clubs (like Heaven Above, Maggie May's, etc) in Bangkok? When I did a Google search for gentlemens clubs in Bangkok, it seemed to spit out showy go go style of clubs rather than the laid back, non-dancing type of bars in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=DCups;2922528]I tried at Thermae a few times but never connected. One cute little thing with nice tits told me I was too big. Geez I got to little belly but not enough to be called fat. It's ok. I found one right outside Thermae who was probably 70 pounds with 10 pounds of tits and she fucked me like her life depended on it! Cheers![/QUOTE]There is some interesting quality outside Thermae as long as you are an expoert at spot the ladyboy.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2921613]You've got to be pretty determined to decide in barfining her over the first lady drink only (unless you already know her).
[/QUOTE]IMO there's no need to treat a girl to more than one drink at a go-go bar. If during that one drink, she quickly downs it to get away from you, or you yourself feel unsure about whether she wants to give you good service due to her attitude, just trust your gut feeling and don't waste money on another drink for that girl, but instead look for someone else.
Walked into Thermae at 8:15 pm. I had to make a head turn to see if I was in the right place. Saw at least 8 ladies 50+ some 60+. Saw a 6'4" Amazon. Saw one that looked like Michael Jackson post-op.
A Farang took her. No hot girls at all. It was raining out so I assume the cute ones aren't here yet. 8:30 pm a few ok girls walk in. 8:50 pm I make the call to rush to Terminal 21 to eat and go back to Thermae later. It was BAD! None of the cute girls I saw Wednesday were here. No I don't think they already left the bar for their first session cause hardly any guys when I arrived at 8:15 pm. Will head back down after digesting my food for a bit. Really sad I can't do gogo bars tonight cause Thermae just wasn't cutting it.
Seeing all the reports for Thermae, I decided to add mine as well.
Reached Thermae at about 10:30 pm on Friday. The place was almost packed, I thin 60% women and 40% men. Lots of choices, all sizes / shapes / ages. I immediately found a few interesting picks but as has been reported by others my proposition to each was quickly rejected. I had to make 3-4 rounds of the place before settling on a 3 k ST offer.
By this time I was hungry so I asked the girl to join me for some food. I think this helped to break the ice a bit, conversation made things easier. I asked her why the Thermae girls do so many rejections, she answered that many girls there have a policy to only go with Japanese punters, that too businessman-like punters. This is because they:
1. are always clean.
2. treat the girls with politeness and respect.
3. don't haggle on price.
4. give a 10-20% tip.
Seems like good logic to me. Sadly I am not Japanese, the next best thing is to run a campaign to make my countrymen behave more like the Japanese people.
I posted this in a different thread, but posting it here as well.
I went to Bangkok for a work trip. Single unmarried male here. Really didn't have a lot of sex before.
But this time, horny mind being horny, went to Nancy entertainment in Bangkok. Paid for the girl and went into the room.
She washed me in the bathtub and then we went to the bed to perform the deed.
On the bed, she put on the condom, and gave me a blowjob for a few seconds until I got hard.
Then she got on top of me and within 2-3 strokes I came in the condom. (stressed and anxious at the time). She got off, took off the condom and wiped me with fresh tissues. Then we washed and I left. The thing is, this whole thing took less than 20 minutes.
It's only then the post nut clarity hit about what I had done. Usually I am only a HJ in spa kinda guy. But this time I went beyond.
I'm sitting in the hotel room, freaking out now. It's been 5 days. For the first two days I researched a little about how sti spreading is reduced with condoms but for whatever reason, the implications are now hitting me and I am going crazy here.
This happened on 7th June.
I went to a doctor and shared what happened. She said that given the conditions of what I did, the chance of transmission is almost zero. But not zero because nothing is certain.
I got a few tests done (She said that no tests woulda actually be conclusive because its been just a week but the tests were done to establish a baseline). The tests all came out negative (syphillis, hiv and a couple others I forget).
I have been advised to come back for tests in 1 month from the date and then 3 months.
What is it like at these sopaies? Are the girls safe? Do they carry stis / stds?
Any advice appreciated.
Thank you.
[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2922618]There is some interesting quality outside Thermae as long as you are an expoert at spot the ladyboy.[/QUOTE]Can't you just ask?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2922732]Walked into Thermae at 8:15 pm. I had to make a head turn to see if I was in the right place. Saw at least 8 ladies 50+ some 60+. Saw a 6'4" Amazon. Saw one that looked like Michael Jackson post-op.
A Farang took her. No hot girls at all. It was raining out so I assume the cute ones aren't here yet. 8:30 pm a few ok girls walk in. 8:50 pm I make the call to rush to Terminal 21 to eat and go back to Thermae later. It was BAD! None of the cute girls I saw Wednesday were here. No I don't think they already left the bar for their first session cause hardly any guys when I arrived at 8:15 pm. Will head back down after digesting my food for a bit. Really sad I can't do gogo bars tonight cause Thermae just wasn't cutting it.[/QUOTE]Went for a stroll around after the rain last night. Plenty of skanky black girls outside the Novotel on Soi 4, along with Hijabi granny. Went a bit further down the Soi when oposite the entrance to NP there was a 'woman' sat on the seat of a scooter. Not a pleasant site and I would estimate about 4'10" in english money (that's height and waist measurement being about the same). She was definately in the 'not if it was free, not if I was desperate, not even if I was under the influence of drink and drugs' category. Could this be the Nana Schoolgirl that some on this board lust after. If it is then her identical twin sister is a waitress in Mullins bar at the top of Soi 11 (opposite the German Beerhouse).
Many years ago as a young civil engineer I worked in Egypt. The country use to get a lot of income from tourists and you were continually being pestered by locals who wanted to part you from your money. Eventually we got some T-shirts printed with a slogan on the back in arabic that said ' I'm not a tourist I live here'.
Maybe we should do something similar for Thailand 'I don't want a f*cking massage so don't bother asking'.
[QUOTE=Llantarnam;2922902]Went for a stroll around after the rain last night. Plenty of skanky black girls outside the Novotel on Soi 4, along with Hijabi granny. Went a bit further down the Soi when oposite the entrance to NP there was a 'woman' sat on the seat of a scooter. Not a pleasant site and I would estimate about 4'10" in english money (that's height and waist measurement being about the same). She was definately in the 'not if it was free, not if I was desperate, not even if I was under the influence of drink and drugs' category. Could this be the Nana Schoolgirl that some on this board lust after. If it is then her identical twin sister is a waitress in Mullins bar at the top of Soi 11 (opposite the German Beerhouse).[/QUOTE]Whoever that lady was, she was not the so-called Nana Schoolgirl. She is not that short and is not fat, if that is what you meant regarding the waistline of the lady you saw.
If I may dare to say, the rmisdirection as repeatedly posted here earlier by some about her being so ugly or undoable in terms of her looks just might have kept you and could keep others from even realizing the real girl is THAT one right over there instead of some true hose monster on the other side of the soi. LOL.
I have never seen her sitting on a scooter or motorcycle. In fact, it has been many months since I have seen the car her mom used to hang out in near wherever her daughter was waiting for a customer. Last I heard she set up mom in an apartment with all the modern conveniences and she no longer has to live in her car.
[QUOTE=Werqweq;2922729]IMO there's no need to treat a girl to more than one drink at a go-go bar. If during that one drink, she quickly downs it to get away from you, or you yourself feel unsure about whether she wants to give you good service due to her attitude, just trust your gut feeling and don't waste money on another drink for that girl, but instead look for someone else.[/QUOTE]Yes in the case the girl gives bad signs from the first drink it's usually better to cut the losses short quickly.
But I was more thinking about the girl that gives a good vibe instead.
Keeping the lady drinks flow a bit has two advantages, you keep enjoying the fun moment with her in the club, and you can take more time to make your decision to pull the trigger or not. You might realize that her body is not that great after all, or other disappointing parts about her that you couldn't really see from the first drink.
I don't really see the point of cutting the fun short just to save a few bucks if she is giving you a good time in the club (I talked from the point of view of someone who doesn't go in these places too often, not for people who go there often and already know which girl they like or not).
[QUOTE=CuttySark;2922872]Seeing all the reports for Thermae, I decided to add mine as well.
Reached Thermae at about 10:30 pm on Friday. The place was almost packed, I thin 60% women and 40% men. Lots of choices, all sizes / shapes / ages. I immediately found a few interesting picks but as has been reported by others my proposition to each was quickly rejected. I had to make 3-4 rounds of the place before settling on a 3 k ST offer.
By this time I was hungry so I asked the girl to join me for some food. I think this helped to break the ice a bit, conversation made things easier. I asked her why the Thermae girls do so many rejections, she answered that many girls there have a policy to only go with Japanese punters, that too businessman-like punters. This is because they:
1. are always clean.
2. treat the girls with politeness and respect.
3. don't haggle on price.
4. give a 10-20% tip.
Seems like good logic to me. Sadly I am not Japanese, the next best thing is to run a campaign to make my countrymen behave more like the Japanese people.[/QUOTE]Not to nitpick on her list and I know you can't answer for her now unless she did elaborate a bit further, but most of those items are rather vague:
[B]1. are always clean.[/B]
Sure. I get that one. Shower, use deodorant and wear freshly laundered clothing, especially a freshly laundered shirt, every time. However, she might be horrified to discover my observation has been that Asian men, not 100% sure if Japanese, Korean or another origin, tend to exit stalls in public toilets and walk out without washing their hands even if only with plain water and no soap at least as often if not more often than farang men.
Just saying.
[B]2. treat the girls with politeness and respect.[/B]
Ah, that one is a little vague. Was your impression that she meant being soft-spoken, plenty of "yes ma'm, no ma'm, please and thank yous", holding the door open for her and all that? Or, as some Thai P4 P girls mean with those words; a customer who doesn't ask or expect her to do anything she considers icky and that she would rather not do, whatever that might be? Or something else?
[B]3. don't haggle on price.
4. give a 10-20% tip.[/B]
I combined those last two because, since we are talking about a Thermae Freelancer who can quote any amount she wants, if they don't haggle on price then why not just quote Japanese customers an additional 10-20% anyway? And if she did wouldn't they politely and respectfully pay that inflated amount without haggling and give an extra 10-20% tip on top of that too? And so on?
I suspect this "no price haggling" Japanese customer concept indeed has a built-in assumed limit or we'd see even more haggling going on between the girls in Thermae and Japanese customers than we do already, no?
[QUOTE=CuttySark;2922872]
I asked her why the Thermae girls do so many rejections, she answered that many girls there have a policy to only go with Japanese punters, that too businessman-like punters. This is because they:
1. are always clean.
2. treat the girls with politeness and respect.
3. don't haggle on price.
4. give a 10-20% tip.[/QUOTE]I am surprised to hear Japanese guys tip the girls since tipping is not a part of Japanese culture.
I know this question maybe has been asked countless times. Where's the best spot for FL in Bamgkok? And what are the best times to get the best prices?
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2922280]Did you ever get the impression via body language or length of time in the discussion that some of the girls, including the TOP tier ones and / or the desperate ones, and customers were rejecting offers based on something other than the difference between 2,500 baht and 3,500 baht?
Such as, drum roll please, BBFS or not, BBBJ+CIM or not? Yes, even the typically or at least previously low demand Asian guys?[/QUOTE]Sometimes I really have to look way back to find your replies.
Did guys get rejected cause they were demanding? As I mentioned all the guys being shot down except one were Japanese. Stereotype on this board are that Japanese are easy lays and would never demand fisting, BB Anal, BBFSCIP, etc so I can only conclude per the board's stereotypes of Japanese that rejections were solely based on price. Now could these Japanese have asked for obscure fetishes Farang can't even fathom? Possibly.
Someone else posted a recent review of Japanese leaving 10-15% tip. Don't Farang leave tips? I know my friends do. It goes a long way in building your reputation inside a small gossip pit like Thermae. He also mentioned haggling. I would like to hear stories of guys who are able to haggle a 3500 baht looker who deserves 3500 baht looks wise to 3000. You'd be able to do something I wasn't able to do there in 3 days.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2923026]Sometimes I really have to look way back to find your replies.
Did guys get rejected cause they were demanding? As I mentioned all the guys being shot down except one were Japanese. Stereotype on this board are that Japanese are easy lays and would never demand fisting, BB Anal, BBFSCIP, etc so I can only conclude per the board's stereotypes of Japanese that rejections were solely based on price. Now could these Japanese have asked for obscure fetishes Farang can't even fathom? Possibly.
Someone else posted a recent review of Japanese leaving 10-15% tip. Don't Farang leave tips? I know my friends do. It goes a long way in building your reputation inside a small gossip pit like Thermae. He also mentioned haggling. I would like to hear stories of guys who are able to haggle a 3500 baht looker who deserves 3500 baht looks wise to 3000. You'd be able to do something I wasn't able to do there in 3 days.[/QUOTE]I understand. My posts are sometimes held for Moderation well past the time a topic has been raised, answered and forgotten. LOL. Which is why I no longer submit field reports with details about where to meet hot 19 year old university co-eds I know who are anxious to learn and practice True GFE Real Sex with Bangkok visitors of any ethnicity and age because by the time my report is posted the place they wanted to meet has been closed down and they are well past age 19 anyway.
Oh well.
As I recall in practically every case of a personal description of a P4 P session from a fellow farang punter, and there have been dozens over the years, he has mentioned giving the girl more than she quoted in the club, bar or on the street unless her service or attitude was seriously lacking and particularly if she outright lied to him beforehand about what she would provide.
So I would call that a tip. But only for good service, not just for the hell of it regardless how bad it was. Or the tip is promised on that basis upfront and delivered as promised if and when it has turned out well.
On the other hand, about 20,000 people die in motor vehicle accidents in Bangkok every year. About a million have significant injuries due to motor vehicle accidents.
That's about 9% of the population in BKK.
While it is hard to make a statistical comparison with covered sex, I think it is likely that covered sex is far less dangerous than a tuk-tuk or taxi ride from your hotel to Nana Plaza.
I think the odds of getting an STI from a HJ are not zero either, but they are pretty close to zero.
SP, I think you need another hobby.
[QUOTE=SoaringPenguin;2922883]I posted this in a different thread, but posting it here as well.
I went to Bangkok for a work trip. Single unmarried male here. Really didn't have a lot of sex before.
But this time, horny mind being horny, went to Nancy entertainment in Bangkok. Paid for the girl and went into the room.
She washed me in the bathtub and then we went to the bed to perform the deed.
On the bed, she put on the condom, and gave me a blowjob for a few seconds until I got hard.
Then she got on top of me and within 2-3 strokes I came in the condom. (stressed and anxious at the time). She got off, took off the condom and wiped me with fresh tissues. Then we washed and I left. The thing is, this whole thing took less than 20 minutes.[/QUOTE]
Lmfao. This site is so entertaining.
[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2923049]On the other hand, about 20,000 people die in motor vehicle accidents in Bangkok every year. About a million have significant injuries due to motor vehicle accidents.
That's about 9% of the population in BKK.
While it is hard to make a statistical comparison with covered sex, I think it is likely that covered sex is far less dangerous than a tuk-tuk or taxi ride from your hotel to Nana Plaza.
I think the odds of getting an STI from a HJ are not zero either, but they are pretty close to zero.
SP, I think you need another hobby.[/QUOTE]
Hello good people. After tying local Thais. Can someone help me to find Uzbek or arab decent girls in Bangkok? Tried grace hotel but not much talent there. Any other sources will be much appreciated.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2922952]Whoever that lady was, she was not the so-called Nana Schoolgirl. She is not that short and is not fat, if that is what you meant regarding the waistline of the lady you saw.
If I may dare to say, the rmisdirection as repeatedly posted here earlier by some about her being so ugly or undoable in terms of her looks just might have kept you and could keep others from even realizing the real girl is THAT one right over there instead of some true hose monster on the other side of the soi. LOL.
I have never seen her sitting on a scooter or motorcycle. In fact, it has been many months since I have seen the car her mom used to hang out in near wherever her daughter was waiting for a customer. Last I heard she set up mom in an apartment with all the modern conveniences and she no longer has to live in her car.[/QUOTE]A guy (we all know who he is) in Pattaya is getting action at 500 baht.
I'd bet School Girl is Hotter than all his Service type girls. Hahaha. Especially when she isn't having one of her Tweaking episodes.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2923039]I understand. My posts are sometimes held for Moderation well past the time a topic has been raised, answered and forgotten. LOL. Which is why I no longer submit field reports with details about where to meet hot 19 year old university co-eds I know who are anxious to learn and practice True GFE Real Sex with Bangkok visitors of any ethnicity and age because by the time my report is posted the place they wanted to meet has been closed down and they are well past age 19 anyway.
Oh well.
As I recall in practically every case of a personal description of a P4 P session from a fellow farang punter, and there have been dozens over the years, he has mentioned giving the girl more than she quoted in the club, bar or on the street unless her service or attitude was seriously lacking and particularly if she outright lied to him beforehand about what she would provide.
So I would call that a tip. But only for good service, not just for the hell of it regardless how bad it was. Or the tip is promised on that basis upfront and delivered as promised if and when it has turned out well.[/QUOTE]I notice a lot of my Great Content never makes it Live. You think artificial intelligence is Overrated? I do.
[QUOTE=PopUpMenu123;2923022]I know this question maybe has been asked countless times. Where's the best spot for FL in Bamgkok? And what are the best times to get the best prices?[/QUOTE]Thermae at exactly 22:43 on Monday Thursday and sundays, and at 23:10 every other day. When I mean exactly I mean exactly at those times each of the girls has an automatic 30% off sale.
[QUOTE=Allover;2923014]I am surprised to hear Japanese guys tip the girls since tipping is not a part of Japanese culture.[/QUOTE]This is an interesting comment. Yes, in Japan tipping is an insult. It is you telling the restaurant owner his business is awful and he needs a bit of extra money from you so he can make a living. It is a huge no no. Something before I first came to Thailand was that Thailand too was a non tipping culture. Tipping was "up to you". Guess that shit has gone out the window.
Do any of us have actual Japanese guy friends from Japan who come to Thermae to answer if they tip first hand (ie. A Thai bargirl always answers to what they feel the person asks wants to hear)? Do we see Japanese tipping at Thai restaurants?
My guess and this is only a guess is that Japanese tip as tipping follows more of a culture than what happens in their own country. If I go to Hong Kong I will never tip more than 5-10% as that is the norm there (or at least it was when I last visited HK). If you go to Canada the tipping culture is way out of hand. Many tip buttons on CC machines are now set to 18% minimum. Tip less than 25% and you get a dirty look. When did tipping change from tipping because you were happy and had good service vs being looked down at because you didn't tip $25 on a casual dinner for 2 people?
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2923012][B]3. don't haggle on price.
4. give a 10-20% tip.[/B]
I combined those last two because, since we are talking about a Thermae Freelancer who can quote any amount she wants, if they don't haggle on price then why not just quote Japanese customers an additional 10-20% anyway? And if she did wouldn't they politely and respectfully pay that inflated amount without haggling and give an extra 10-20% tip on top of that too? And so on?
I suspect this "no price haggling" Japanese customer concept indeed has a built-in assumed limit or we'd see even more haggling going on between the girls in Thermae and Japanese customers than we do already, no?[/QUOTE]Japanese do not haggle for price. It's not in their DNA. It's not like Chinese and Indian who take pride on how much they were able to get off an item no matter how high the starting price was. Go to a Hong Kong flea market. First quote you'll get on an item may be 10 USD and you end up buying it for 2 USD. To Chinese that's a huge win even if the item is only worth 1 USD.
A breaking point is going to happen to the Japanese customers at Thermae if prices continue to increase. I have noticed that not nearly as many girls are being pulled as when prices were 2500 baht. I commented on how some cute faced skinny petite girls who would have lasted less than 5 minutes at 2500 baht are now sitting in Thermae for 2 hours with no action. You can already see the effects. Also, Japan has some huge adult boards that can sway where guys go. Japanese salarymen don't make much money. The only thing saving Thermae now is these guys are weekend millionaires so maybe the extra 100-200 USD they spend over a weekend is still justifiable. I notice more and more Japanese now in a cheaper option like Jakarta where they used to be non existent.
I go to Thermae more for the fun of it laughing at guys inept social skills and maybe picking up a girl. If I want a hot girl I'll come back to Pattaya gog bars. Just a single gogo bar like Pin Up or Palace has more girls than Thermae and of much higher quality to boot.
[QUOTE=PopUpMenu123;2923022]Where's the best spot for FL in Bamgkok? And what are the best times to get the best prices?[/QUOTE]
Where we talk about the most on this board. Thermae and a far second is where Nana School Girl is. Best time. Just before closing at Thermae when the dregs are left looking to make 1500-2000 instead of going home empty handed. On Soi 4 right before it starts pouring rain.
[QUOTE=SoaringPenguin;2922883]I posted this in a different thread, but posting it here as well.
I went to Bangkok for a work trip. Single unmarried male here. Really didn't have a lot of sex before.
But this time, horny mind being horny, went to Nancy entertainment in Bangkok. Paid for the girl and went into the room.
She washed me in the bathtub and then we went to the bed to perform the deed.
On the bed, she put on the condom, and gave me a blowjob for a few seconds until I got hard.
Then she got on top of me and within 2-3 strokes I came in the condom. (stressed and anxious at the time). She got off, took off the condom and wiped me with fresh tissues. Then we washed and I left. The thing is, this whole thing took less than 20 minutes.
It's only then the post nut clarity hit about what I had done. Usually I am only a HJ in spa kinda guy. But this time I went beyond.
I'm sitting in the hotel room, freaking out now. It's been 5 days. For the first two days I researched a little about how sti spreading is reduced with condoms but for whatever reason, the implications are now hitting me and I am going crazy here.
This happened on 7th June.
I went to a doctor and shared what happened. She said that given the conditions of what I did, the chance of transmission is almost zero. But not zero because nothing is certain.
I got a few tests done (She said that no tests woulda actually be conclusive because its been just a week but the tests were done to establish a baseline). The tests all came out negative (syphillis, hiv and a couple others I forget).
I have been advised to come back for tests in 1 month from the date and then 3 months.
What is it like at these sopaies? Are the girls safe? Do they carry stis / stds?
Any advice appreciated.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]If this is not a prank I honestly feel sorry for you, I mean seriously? But this reminds me on a story a lovely soi 23 massage lady told me when she talked a client in his first HJ ever. He insisted on a condom, LOL, true story!
Quick question (I cannot use that damned search function here) on Geisha: BF 1000ST, girls still 3 k ST, when do they close? One of my lovelies moved there and now makes a bing thing about it, is there anything special about this place?
Thanks for the help.
FA.
[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;2923196]Quick question (I cannot use that damned search function here) on Geisha: BF 1000ST, girls still 3 k ST, when do they close? One of my lovelies moved there and now makes a bing thing about it, is there anything special about this place?
Thanks for the help.
FA.[/QUOTE]Nothing special about the place. Some nights they've got many girls with many customers (these are the good nights to be there) and some others they've got few girls with almost no customers inside.
The good thing is you can be hands on the girl when you offer the LD, and waitress and mama don't come and bother you much.
For the price I think it's correct, that's the price I paid not long ago.
Closing time is probably 2 or 3 am, but I'm not sure about it (there's one girl I BF from this place, and always after midnight, she never goes back to the shop after our session).
[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;2923194]If this is not a prank I honestly feel sorry for you, I mean seriously? But this reminds me on a story a lovely soi 23 massage lady told me when she talked a client in his first HJ ever. He insisted on a condom, LOL, true story![/QUOTE]The most common STI is HPV. They say around 80%-90% of people will get HPV if your sexually active.
You can get HPV from a handjob so wearing a condom reduces the risk, but you can still get HPV because the area that isn't covered by condom isn't protected.
There are over 200 kinds of HPV and some kinds of HPV can cause cancer in men and women. The odds are high that the sex workers have many kinds of HPV including the ones that can cause cancer. I don't know if the young Thai girls take the HPV vaccine.
It's all about risk tolerance.
Some people are OK with the risks, some people don't want to take the risks, or want to reduce the risks.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;2922608]Are there Pattaya style gents clubs (like Heaven Above, Maggie May's, etc) in Bangkok? When I did a Google search for gentlemens clubs in Bangkok, it seemed to spit out showy go go style of clubs rather than the laid back, non-dancing type of bars in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]There are not sadly. Gentlemen's clubs in Bangkok are the PR clubs where the guys pay an hourly rate for the girls to sit with them or sing karaoke. They drink whatever you order at your table, such as a bottle and taking them out of the bar is not sanctioned by the bar. It's up to the lady if she goes with you and the rate is normally very high. Like 5000-6000ST. The closest thing to a Pattaya gents club you will find in Bangkok are blow job bars. I used to go into Som's Heaven, now a different name. There, I could sit downstairs, fuck around with the girls and play music. Then go upstairs. Hardly seen others doing it but some did. Most would just go in and head right upstairs. I got a BJ downstairs there many times and since I was there alone on more than a few occasions, I fucked there as well.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2922952]Whoever that lady was, she was not the so-called Nana Schoolgirl. She is not that short and is not fat, if that is what you meant regarding the waistline of the lady you saw.
If I may dare to say, the rmisdirection as repeatedly posted here earlier by some about her being so ugly or undoable in terms of her looks just might have kept you and could keep others from even realizing the real girl is THAT one right over there instead of some true hose monster on the other side of the soi. LOL.
I have never seen her sitting on a scooter or motorcycle. In fact, it has been many months since I have seen the car her mom used to hang out in near wherever her daughter was waiting for a customer. Last I heard she set up mom in an apartment with all the modern conveniences and she no longer has to live in her car.[/QUOTE]I know the whole story behind this girl. She shacked up with an Aussie guy in Pattaya and her and her mother extorted him for a ton of money. Now he is broke and can't afford her anymore. She will be back soon in Bangkok boys with her mother waiting in the car again to take the money.
[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2923223]I know the whole story behind this girl. She shacked up with an Aussie guy in Pattaya and her and her mother extorted him for a ton of money. Now he is broke and can't afford her anymore. She will be back soon in Bangkok boys with her mother waiting in the car again to take the money.[/QUOTE]She and her mom cleaned out some dude by force or threat? Based on what, I wonder.
Do you know the guy and, if so, does he know about ISG? I'd look forward to reading a Field Report on how in the world that happened.
I have seen her on Soi 4 a few times over the past week. So the estate of Mr. Pattaya must not have been all that vast.
Recently in Bangkok, I explored the most recommended houses, namely ola ola, bkk vice and aya massage, all in Sukhumvit.
Could not find what I was looking for at ola ola, may be wrong day.
I got excellent service at bkk vice which comes out as best choice in my opinion, if you to save time. I also tried 2 girls at Aya, which had the best looking chicks, but bkk vice was more satisfying. I should add if you go there directly from airport, 3-4 hours is plenty enough to go, consume and be back to BKK airport, as train to the city then other train to Sukhumvit takes.
Less than 1 HR. Easy, fast and cheap.
Nana School Girl and mother vs Riri and Mother.
No info on girl who goes to School.
Tons of info on Riri. YouTube search Suspendas. You may be hooked or NOT.
It's real life Baybeee. That's what Sus calls Riri his wife, although no one has seen Proof. We did see him having a party with Monks in a garage. Official marriage, many have their doubts. Weird in that Sus handed out envelope s to guests full of money. LOL. Hahaha.
We talking scammed of $400,000 in a year and still going on.
P.S. Sus says he is cross between Keanu Reeves an Brad Pitt.
Riri says he isn't Handsome and can't even remember his real name, Avrom.
P.S. Riri hates him and is only carrying out under orders of mom.
P.S. Whole time Riri spends time with her true love POON the Thaiboy.
[QUOTE=SoaringPenguin;2922883]I posted this in a different thread, but posting it here as well.
I went to Bangkok for a work trip. Single unmarried male here. Really didn't have a lot of sex before.
But this time, horny mind being horny, went to Nancy entertainment in Bangkok. Paid for the girl and went into the room.
She washed me in the bathtub and then we went to the bed to perform the deed.
On the bed, she put on the condom, and gave me a blowjob for a few seconds until I got hard.
Then she got on top of me and within 2-3 strokes I came in the condom. (stressed and anxious at the time). She got off, took off the condom and wiped me with fresh tissues. Then we washed and I left. The thing is, this whole thing took less than 20 minutes.
It's only then the post nut clarity hit about what I had done. Usually I am only a HJ in spa kinda guy. But this time I went beyond.
I'm sitting in the hotel room, freaking out now. It's been 5 days. For the first two days I researched a little about how sti spreading is reduced with condoms but for whatever reason, the implications are now hitting me and I am going crazy here.
This happened on 7th June.
I went to a doctor and shared what happened. She said that given the conditions of what I did, the chance of transmission is almost zero. But not zero because nothing is certain.
I got a few tests done (She said that no tests woulda actually be conclusive because its been just a week but the tests were done to establish a baseline). The tests all came out negative (syphillis, hiv and a couple others I forget).
I have been advised to come back for tests in 1 month from the date and then 3 months.
What is it like at these sopaies? Are the girls safe? Do they carry stis / stds?
Any advice appreciated.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]Are. You. Serious.
You are in the wrong hobby.
Take up bird watching or canoeing.
[QUOTE=Vendelo;2923380]Are. You. Serious.
You are in the wrong hobby.
Take up bird watching or canoeing.[/QUOTE]There could be deadly germs in the water!
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2923201]Nothing special about the place. Some nights they've got many girls with many customers (these are the good nights to be there) and some others they've got few girls with almost no customers inside.
The good thing is you can be hands on the girl when you offer the LD, and waitress and mama don't come and bother you much.
For the price I think it's correct, that's the price I paid not long ago.
Closing time is probably 2 or 3 am, but I'm not sure about it (there's one girl I BF from this place, and always after midnight, she never goes back to the shop after our session).[/QUOTE]Thanks bro, spot on the info I needed, highly appreciated!
[QUOTE=MassageLover81;2923220]The most common STI is HPV. They say around 80%-90% of people will get HPV if your sexually active.
You can get HPV from a handjob so wearing a condom reduces the risk, but you can still get HPV because the area that isn't covered by condom isn't protected.
There are over 200 kinds of HPV and some kinds of HPV can cause cancer in men and women. The odds are high that the sex workers have many kinds of HPV including the ones that can cause cancer. I don't know if the young Thai girls take the HPV vaccine.
It's all about risk tolerance.
Some people are OK with the risks, some people don't want to take the risks, or want to reduce the risks.[/QUOTE]First I thought you were kidding but indeed you are right, this has been discussed (people have too much time at hand I guess) and even found it's way as a study in the Lancet (well one of its sub journals at least) and the answer is NO: A new study, led by researchers at McGill University's Faculty of Medicine, and published in The Lancet Infectious Diseases, aims to solve this debate. Their conclusion: Unlike being genital HPV positive, having HPV in your hand does not increase the risk of transmitting HPV to a sexual partner. One question remains though: how did they conduct the study and more importantly how did they convince the ethics committee to approve?
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2923255]She and her mom cleaned out some dude by force or threat? Based on what, I wonder.
Do you know the guy and, if so, does he know about ISG? I'd look forward to reading a Field Report on how in the world that happened.
I have seen her on Soi 4 a few times over the past week. So the estate of Mr. Pattaya must not have been all that vast.[/QUOTE]All right here is your weekend report. Just because she's become an icon, school girl was in her usual spot both Saturday and Sunday. I had the opportunity to examine her closely and yes Virginia, she is at least ostensibly better than many others in that area. However, a detailed examination basically demonstrates that she is at the low end of the scale. And her eyes are crazy. And her legs are shapeless and her clothes could use a washing.
As to the go-go's, I'll be honest the talent in twisters is pretty good. I just hate the layout of the club. The talent was excellent in rainbow three or four I can't remember which one it's the first one you come to after the escalator. There's a girl in there who is just a cutie girl next door type who literally gives the best blowjobs I have had in ages so I took her. And no I don't remember her number. The talent in billboard was exceptional I just object to their pay the mamasan business.
Terminator was packed on Saturday night and empty on Sunday night. There were plenty of doables for those less picky than me.
I may be sounding naive because maybe I am.
I am just new to this world and this was my first time in a place like that or even taking the services of a professional. I've been lurking on these forums for a while now but never actually did it until that day. So I really don't have any experience or frame of reference. And suddenly the consequences and risks hit me. (Life, family, having to settle down eventually etc). That's all. Apologies if it sounded stupid. To be honest I'm still not sure, but just trying to remain calm. And hoping I am alright.
I wanted to know what standards (if any) these places have. The lady insisted on condom so I guess she tries to be safe but you never know.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2923255]She and her mom cleaned out some dude by force or threat? Based on what, I wonder.
Do you know the guy and, if so, does he know about ISG? I'd look forward to reading a Field Report on how in the world that happened.
I have seen her on Soi 4 a few times over the past week. So the estate of Mr. Pattaya must not have been all that vast.[/QUOTE]Yes, I know him. How I know him, I can't say. Cleaned him out based on what?
Think about a situation that would involve a mother and a daughter and the mother needing to give permission for something. Nuff said I think.
[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2923486]Yes, I know him. How I know him, I can't say. Cleaned him out based on what?
Think about a situation that would involve a mother and a daughter and the mother needing to give permission for something. Nuff said I think.[/QUOTE]Well, I don't claim to know everything about Thai law in that regard. But the Nana Schoolgirl we have been talking about is at least late 30's by my estimation. Could be in her 40's. If this is something that happened in the past 15-20 years I suppose it would surprise me to discover there is anything that one can do with or for a 40 year old woman in Thailand that it requires her mom's permission in order to legally do it or to avoid the possibility of extortion.
Unless the dude got into trouble because he grabbed mom and did something to her without her permission. Again, the mind reels.
[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2923223]I know the whole story behind this girl. She shacked up with an Aussie guy in Pattaya and her and her mother extorted him for a ton of money. Now he is broke and can't afford her anymore. She will be back soon in Bangkok boys with her mother waiting in the car again to take the money.[/QUOTE]I'm not denying or challenging your story but it must have been a long time ago. She has been standing on Soi 4 at the entrance to Nana Plaza for a year now and was up and down Sukhumvit and worked in Crazy House before that.
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2923534]I'm not denying or challenging your story but it must have been a long time ago. She has been standing on Soi 4 at the entrance to Nana Plaza for a year now and was up and down Sukhumvit and worked in Crazy House before that.[/QUOTE]I agree with you.
Saw her many late afternoons and evenings standing there on Soi 4 just before Nana Plaza entrance during my Bangkok visit in mid May.
[QUOTE=ThaiGoodTimes;2923730]I agree with you.
Saw her many late afternoons and evenings standing there on Soi 4 just before Nana Plaza entrance during my Bangkok visit in mid May.[/QUOTE]From beginning to end, it lasted 6 weeks.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2923498]the Nana Schoolgirl we have been talking about is at least late 30's by my estimation. Could be in her 40's. [/QUOTE]No wonder I've never noticed her. Here I was looking for a girl in her early 20's. Japan has made me oblivious to Cosplay or school girl outfits. I was wondering why no one ever TOFTT and went with her. Now I get it.
[QUOTE=SoaringPenguin;2923424]I may be sounding naive because maybe I am.
I am just new to this world and this was my first time in a place like that or even taking the services of a professional. I've been lurking on these forums for a while now but never actually did it until that day. So I really don't have any experience or frame of reference. And suddenly the consequences and risks hit me. (Life, family, having to settle down eventually etc). That's all. Apologies if it sounded stupid. To be honest I'm still not sure, but just trying to remain calm. And hoping I am alright.
I wanted to know what standards (if any) these places have. The lady insisted on condom so I guess she tries to be safe but you never know.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]This hobby is not for you if you are this worried over your last encounter. May I suggest you find yourself a regular Thai girl to date. Mongering takes a certain type of individual and you are for sure not that type IMHO.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2924034]No wonder I've never noticed her. Here I was looking for a girl in her early 20's. Japan has made me oblivious to Cosplay or school girl outfits. I was wondering why no one ever TOFTT and went with her. Now I get it.[/QUOTE]There have been a couple of Field Reports on sessions with her, both fairly positive. One more than just positive in that he had repeated with her several times as I recall.
My only close call with her was a few years ago when her pestering me to take her finally came down to my agreeing but only if 1,2 and 3 was fully agreed to in advance. And, yes, it was mostly out of curiosity. I had been putting her off in person, in passing, in bars and on a social network she insisted on giving me for at least 2 years by then.
Much back and forth on the social network and it came down to her only agreeing to 1 and 2, but for very little money and she would / wanted to stay all night. Curiosity got me to ok.
When she arrived at my door she stuck out her hand and wanted Payment Upfront. LOL. Mind you, I had seen, chatted Hi how are you with, gave up my "Line" info to her and knew her casually for years before I finally said OK come on over for a ST / LT. She had seen me all that time living in Bangkok, living in the same building in Bangkok, seen me with dozens of other girls, many of them multiple repeats, ALL of them appearing quite happy to be with me, go with me, stay with me, repeat, repeat and repeat with me.
And by then she had been pestering me and begging me to take her, no exaggeration, 100 times or more.
Yet here she was, fully clothed, standing in my doorway with her hand outstretched asking me to Pay Upfront that silly small amount I finally agreed to pay her just for 1 and 2, because she apparently thought I would have my piddling 1 and 2 way with her and kick her out without paying. LOL.
All red warning lights were rotating and flashing.
I politely refused, told her why (it is a sure sign of a pending bad session or total ripoff) and bid her farewell. That was the end of it. I never even saw her without her shoes on much less without her her clothes on. But she did still contact me on "Line" a couple of times since pestering me to meet with her again. Nope.
At that time mom was still around and apparently going to sit downstairs until the session that never happened was finished even if it turned into an overnighter.
Maybe I dodged some brilliant master plan by mom and her 38-ish or whatever year old daughter for taking some wild, unimaginable liberty with her without mom's permission. I will never know.
Hey ET. Thanks for that. That was an interesting read about Nana School Girl.
This whole Mom watching thing is creepy. Pretty sure my condo would never let an old lady sit in the lobby all night long.
[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2924030]From beginning to end, it lasted 6 weeks.[/QUOTE]
Guy got cleaned out in 6 weeks? Are we talking a few hundred thousand baht or millions of baht here?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2924034] Japan has made me oblivious to Cosplay or school girl outfits.[/QUOTE]Puy roti lady was looking pretty hot in a Princess Jasmine outfit from one of her latest videos. I could see a market for short time female costume rentals. LOL.
I am active member at another forum where I have been contributing reports, my time to share the same here.
My time of visit October / November 2023 -- 30 days approx.
Bangkok. Thermae Cafe -- Girl wearing Cap.
Date & Time of Session: Oct 2023.
Location: Hotel outcall. Sukhumvit area.
Nationality & Language: Thai.
Name. Can't remember.
Age: Approx. 25 years.
Face: 3/5.
Body: 4/5.
Height: 5 ft maybe.
Skill: 4/5.
Service: 4/5.
GFE: 4/5 , not calling it GFE but a very friendly attitude.
Price & Session Length: 2500 THB for action and 200 THB tips for good time.
Repeat: Did not so far, might consider during next visit.
First evening in Bangkok, travelled from west coast to Taipei and connected to Bangkok. Hit the hotel by 3 pm and woke up to some rain at 8 PM in the evening.
Hit by jet lag and empty stomach, had a light meal and was back to Thermae cafe by 9 PM, too early I suppose.
Got myself a bottle of water and sat patiently in a corner, nothing impressed me at this time. Cafe / Bar was less than 20% full at this time due to pour down.
Rain stopped and good number of women walked in sooner, but some greedy faces utilizing the opportunity to quote higher. Quotes were 3000,3500 and 4000 , turned down.
At 11 pm so, the number of women in the cafe were almost equal to men -- walked around to find a smiling young lady wearing a cap, had a very positive smile and quoted me 2500 THB.
Had a feeling she could be an average body and amazing service, okayed her and walk to hotel room holding hands.
Process. You shower, she shower and Action. Default thermae style.
Body. Natural be tits and great ass / thighs for the body (Liked them honestly).
BBBJ was decent, some body kisses and neck kisses, she was open to DFK I guess and I was not really feeling at the time.
Started in Cowgirl, some mish and finally Finish in Doggy -- Felt doggy was the best position considering her ample butts, thighs and thick legs.
Value for Money? Yes.
Verdict -- I happened to see her many times after this meet, she welcomed always with a Hi and a nice smile, she is quite busy and well liked.
Bangkok. Freelancer - MaiMai.
Date & Time of Session: Late Oct 2023.
Location: Sukhumvit -- Opposite Thermae Cafe.
Nationality & Language: Thai.
Name. MaiMai (sounded like that).
Contact. Have her line ID added, unsure how to share that.
Age: 35 plus (did not ask).
Face: 3. 5/5 (Good looking for the age).
Body: 3/5.
Height: close to 5 ft 2 inches.
Skill: 4/5.
Service: 4/5.
GFE: 4/5.
Price & Session Length:2500 THB + 200 THB in tips.
Repeat: Maybe in next visit.
One fine evening, was catching up with a friend at Bush Garden bar over drinks and some food. It was pouring down in BKK, enjoying the weather and time as we had nothing to do.
Done with drinking and sent my friend home around 11:30 time, Grab picked him at the road and walked him off. Turned around to see a elderly woman attractive in her black dress, made eye contact and waved her hands.
Walked to her and asked for prices, she quoted 2500 THB, maybe assuming I would make a bargain and was in no mood to do the talking. Okayed her and walked to room.
It was one of the days, where you look at someone and feel you will have a good time, she was one such lady.
In the room and asks me to shower, did brush my teeth and clean myself up in a bit, she joined the shower almost when am done and continued hers from thereon.
Comes back wrapped in towel, makes a very good eye contact and starts kissing my body and neck, it was really nice, warm etc.
Slowly pushes me to bed, takes my towel off and starts kissing dick, balls, thighs, legs and until toe (not a BBBJ but body kissing).
I was all warmed and asked her to start the action, like lets fuck now.
She rolls the condom and gives me a quick CBJ (no BBBJ, only downside and I was fine with it) and some ball kissing / licking, was hard by this time.
Took a good pounding in multiple positions -- mish, cowgirl and Doggy. Don't remember something that lasted this long, should be easily 20 minutes plus (due to alcohol in the body maybe).
She was getting tired and sweating a little in the conditioned room, finally bust my nut in the bug and the lady was smiling (cheeky one), asked if I wanted to meet her again the next day and she can come over early, said will text her and got the line ID.
Very much liked the experience, willing to do what you want. I did not make much demands but gave her a good pounding.
Verdict -- Good looking woman for her age (told she has a kid who's 8-10 years old can't remember), decent experience with her skill and willingness to please, yeah definitely works as a backup and first option at times for the price.
Bangkok. Freelancer - Ploy.
Date & Time of Session: Early November 2023.
Location: Sukhumvit -- Opposite Thermae Cafe.
Nationality & Language: Thai.
Name. Ploy.
Contact. Have her line ID added, unsure how to share that.
Age: 25 (could be older).
Face: 3/5.
Body: 4. 5/5.
Height: 5 ft 4 inches maybe.
Skill: 4/5.
Service: 4/5.
GFE: 2/5.
Price & Session Length:3000 THB + 200 THB in tips.
Repeat: maybe sometime in future.
Close to midnight time, the same routine at Bush Garden bar, a friend and a drink in hand to spend some time. I was bored of massage places in recent days and wanted something like Thermae cafe stuff.
I rarely go in these days, just sit at the bar, get a drink and watch the girls in and out. Like the girl and follow them inside else pick the ones outside.
I noticed a girl come out, stand next to the pathway / entrance of the bar outside. But the lady was not usual type, like no make eye contact or fiddle with phone, just standing for a customer to ask and take her back.
I enjoyed watching her stand with disappointment of not getting asked or someone looking at her, she wasn't that bad looking though.
To describe the lady, looked like a MILF to me and dressed tight to reveal the shape, she had fat at right places and definitely attracted me.
I make the move and ask her prices, quotes me 3000 THB (expecting me to counter offer / bargain), I don't do that stuff, say sorry and walk away if I feel not value for money.
Said lets go, saw a smile on her face, positive and first expression on her face since the last 20 odd minutes I have been watching her.
Looked all positive, not the chatty type, very softspoken and not a lady of many words (Dream girl for modern day husbands, just kidding).
Walk to room and I shower first, she does next. Asked if she wants the money now or later -- just to test the attitude.
She responded later, I was glad. Since she was silent and not the one to dictate terms, I asked her if she has any terms that I had to follow.
3 things. Can't kiss (because I smelled Alcohol and she doesn't like the smell of it, fair enough) , No Anal and no fingering the hole, someone hurt her with a finger nail and she had really bad few days after.
Action -- I was in boxers and she already had started kissing me all over the body, neck and behind ears, gently stroking the dick with cloth on. Slid her hand inside and playfully caressed the balls and continued the strokeplay from inside without removing the boxers.
It was feeling all good, gave a decent BJ and was rock solid hard.
Best part -- she had voluptuous body, easily guessing 36 tits and great ass to grab, the lady had tiny bit of flesh in the tum region. It was so hot.
To compare, lady's body almost close to porn actress "valentina nappi".
I had really good time kissing, sucking and grabbing those tits.
Multiple positions and I was done, she had the best body among thermae women I met.
Took her line ID and sent her away with 200 THB tips, could not repeat again in this trip.
Overall -- Worthy of time, Great body, no nonsense lady, tries to please.
Bangkok. Freelancer - Tischa.
Date & Time of Session: Early November 2023.
Location: Sukhumvit -- Opposite Thermae Cafe.
Nationality & Language: Thai.
Name. Tischa (spell it Teee-shaa).
Contact. None.
Age: 28 (Looked younger).
Face: 4/5.
Body: 4. 5.
Height: 5 ft maybe.
Skill: 4/5.
Service: 4/5.
GFE: 4/5.
Price & Session Length:3000 THB + 200 THB tips + 200 THB taxi fare.
Repeat: I would If I find her again at the bar.
My new routine, Bush Garden bar and sipping beers while I watch every girl walk in and out of Thermae cafe.
Fine evening and I was down one beer and some food, ordered my second and Thermae cafe was buzzing, so busy place (I don't go in these days).
I noticed a beautiful woman in her early twenties taken out, she comes back to the bar and gets picked up in less than 5 minutes again by someone, this time up she went to Ruamchitt Plaza hotel for the session.
45 minutes later, she comes down waving goodbyes to the person who dropped her at the lobby, she goes inside, takes a piss and I was ready to follow her and pick her up before she would go inside the bar.
The surprise is, girl was ready to call it a day and head home, made good money I guess. She booked her cab and stood by the road for her ride.
I immediately went and asked If I could take her, she said she is heading home and is done for the day and can meet tomorrow. I was in no mood to let her go and promised to pay for her ride back home (not desperate it was my last day and did not want to let go of chance) , nice smiling face with great body, would take that any day.
She agreed with a smile and to my room now, told me she has a baby, couldn't believe her.
Standard process -- shower, foreplay and sex nothing different than how she looked and was smiling through the session.
Body -- Man made tits but felt nice, amazing butts and some belly damage due to see-sec surgery.
Nice woman, carried smile through out the session and she says not a regular at Thermae cafe, visits only when funds needed (2-3 times a month).
I had a very good session with her, she stayed 30 minutes after session to speak of her life and showed her kid photos. Overall not a typical escort experience but friendly / warm are additions here.
P. S -- She looks much better and hotter in person than this pic.
Out of curiosity I was there Friday but since it rained late afternoon I never return to check it out for myself as to what she might look like and how old?
It isn't my thing but age does matter cause when you look at some of those older much older lurking around the parking lot during the day especially I wonder at what point even at my age will there be a limit? Youth wise I would never put myself in a position for something to happen I go by the theory " If you do the chances are it will ".
What I do know Thais ladies have their own school of learning they know customers have certain desires and fetishes and girl dress up as school girls is one of them. Telling you they speak at bit of English, part-time need extra money freelancers, University girl, making themselves up to be noticed by Koreans and Japanese are in general a act. School girl everyone has a bit of Kiddy fuck in them not me! Reason Windmill has never been a thing for me girls dress up with those white socks high heels get me a real women.
[QUOTE=TooDirty;2924492]Puy roti lady was looking pretty hot in a Princess Jasmine outfit from one of her latest videos. I could see a market for short time female costume rentals. LOL.[/QUOTE]Her thing is no different than a girl in a school outfit, she is selling herself marketing with the sexy Thai outfits give here credit you think she doesn't know the following she has on social media. For Thai standard she makes good money attraction older women that works hard and she does must be good wife material but her Roti is just that Roti it isn't because it is so good. Anyone who thinks she comes cheap is dreaming she most likely comes more expensive than a Gogo girl.
I seen YouTubes of Thais doing car washes in sexy outfits selling Durian and noodles it is just marketing. LOL.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2924510] her Roti is just that Roti it isn't because it is so good. Anyone who thinks she comes cheap is dreaming she most likely comes more expensive than a Gogo girl.
[/QUOTE]I hope that just because I mention her here someone doesn't try to pick her up as if she is a freelancer. I wouldn't think to approach her with this kind of offer. My attraction to Puy is that she is a good looking woman who works really hard, but roti wouldn't be my first choice for street food. Puy dresses in an understated sexy manner, but I like the noodle chicks letting it all hang out too. LOL.
[QUOTE=TooDirty;2924513]I hope that just because I mention her here someone doesn't try to pick her up as if she is a freelancer. I wouldn't think to approach her with this kind of offer. My attraction to Puy is that she is a good looking woman who works really hard, but roti wouldn't be my first choice for street food. Puy dresses in an understated sexy manner, but I like the noodle chicks letting it all hang out too. LOL.[/QUOTE]Correct, I'm sure many have tried already but this kind of women don't come cheap. The only real way if you live there and a regular customer and recognize you and you can stasrt with small talk.
Regardless just because she works hard means she isn't giving it up to just anyone I'm sure she has already young to a Thai.
If she is single she isn't coming cheap cause Roti I'm sure isn't her life everyone working or non want a essier life so if see is making 50,000 a month one got to match it Thai or foreigner.
[QUOTE=Kukooo;2924500]
Price & Session Length:3000 THB + 200 THB in tips.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for your reports on the Thermae girls. It would have been interesting to see what they would accept if you didn't just agree right away on their initial quotes. I'm sure that's why they like the Asian customers so much in there since they tend not to barter either so these girls are kind of use to this by now.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2924579]Correct, I'm sure many have tried already but this kind of women don't come cheap. The only real way if you live there and a regular customer and recognize you and you can stasrt with small talk.
Regardless just because she works hard means she isn't giving it up to just anyone I'm sure she has already young to a Thai.
If she is single she isn't coming cheap cause Roti I'm sure isn't her life everyone working or non want a essier life so if see is making 50,000 a month one got to match it Thai or foreigner.[/QUOTE]She has 609 K subscribers and millions of views. Her income is most likely easy pushing 6 figures a year. I'm into the car scene in America and it's always amazing when at some of the car and coffee events that cater towards exotics finding out what people do for a living. I've met more than a few young YouTubers that had a few million subscribers making money that you just shake you head at. Makes you think it took many decades and hard work for many of us to be able to afford the hobby and there are these young 20 & 30 somethings making some serious coin on their YouTube channels. I give them credit being able to take advantage of new technology to create wealth.
Where does one find short or fun-sized providers 5'0 and below? I know maybe one. Also what about providers with massive melons, E and above?
[QUOTE=Davey1965;2924602]She has 609 K subscribers and millions of views. Her income is most likely easy pushing 6 figures a year. I'm into the car scene in America and it's always amazing when at some of the car and coffee events that cater towards exotics finding out what people do for a living. I've met more than a few young YouTubers that had a few million subscribers making money that you just shake you head at. Makes you think it took many decades and hard work for many of us to be able to afford the hobby and there are these young 20 & 30 somethings making some serious coin on their YouTube channels. I give them credit being able to take advantage of new technology to create wealth.[/QUOTE]Thailand being the way it is thumbs up to women like her I wouldn't be surprise of her income.
Went there on a Thursday. Lots of girls, few customers. Quality was ok, no real stunners. The beer is 170, the LD 240 (mine chose a single without further ado, so no upsell). BF is 1 k, she wanted 3 k for very short ST as it turned out. The tub show is actually quite nice, not a real tub, more of a foam thing standing in a shower but certainly worth watching and in my eyes more interesting than what the Crazy House ladies put on as performance, however no girl on action as far as I could observe. Seems a reasonable place, the lady I met had switched from another bar in 3rd floor due to no customers (not sure overall or due to her lack of enthusiasm and rush during the deed, but what I saw was not a NEP full of customers that day).
[QUOTE=Wilbar;2921324]Butterfly Bangkok: [URL]https://butterflybangkok.com/[/URL].
Mango: [URL]https://mangomassagebangkok.com/[/URL].
Google is your friend.[/QUOTE]Butterfly website has no addres and they say outcall massage.
I couldn't find it.
But I found mango.
It was also the highlight of my trip.
Saw the line up.
Picked up bee. Nice face, great figure.
And it was fun looking at her perfectly sculpted nose as she blew me.
But I saw another girl and ask if she was available. Said she was booked.
So I finished with bee and walked out trying to find butterfly again.
But Wanted to bang the other girl too so I took half a blue pill and walked a bit more.
Went back to mango and asked for the other girl.
Again booked.
But saw another cute face.
Macys or many.
Very cute face.
But had CS mark.
But she was also good.
Took the 30 min for 1600.
She moaned like a Japanese teen in a JAV video.
Was tired and had no more energy for the other girl.
Maybe next time.
Found this girl on Few Fans. Booking was difficult at first, as she can't speak a word of English However, after a little persistence and some Thai language, she agreed. The price was 1500ST. I went over to her hotel that she books and usies to host customers. She was just as stunning as the photo and no need for the photo shopping. She greeted me at the door with a cold cloth and led me in to the room. She even kneeled down and removed my shoes. Then we sat down on the bed and we chatted a bit. I found out she was actually from Laos and she was not even Thai. She calmed to be 24, I think she is more like 26-28 though.
After our chat, she started removing my clothes and we started kissing. She was dressed only in her bra and panties and I started to finger her pussy lightly. She started getting wet. Before the action started getting any hotter, she suggested we go to take a shower. In the shower, she cleaned every crevice of my body. Then gave me one of the best BBBJ I have ever had from a Fiw fan's girl. I couldn't resist much longer and blew my load and she swallowed it all. This surprised me. After that, I retreated to the bed while she cleaned herself up.
On the bed we chatted a bit about her life and mine while I admired her body. Then I started caressing her leg and thigh, then moving down to her pussy. I laid her back and started licking her pussy. This made her giggle and she could not take it as she said it ticked too much. This was disappointing, but I understood. She reached for a condom and some loob, which I don't like. This meaning both. I said in Thai no need. However, she insisted on a condom. I relented and allowed her to slip it on. After that I climbed on top and we began fucking. After 15 minutes of decent sex in multiple positions, she asked me why I didn't finish. I told her it's because I never fuck with condoms so it's difficult to finish. Then she said, if I pay her an extra 2000 Baht, she would fuck me BB. I instantly agreed and removed the condom. I started in doggy and it was bliss. She was moaning very loudly at this point. Then I flipped her over and fucked her in mish for another 15 or so minutes before exploding deep inside her pussy.
We lay there on the bed for 10 minutes just resting and caressing each other before I had to leave to go back to work. Great session.
This thing with condoms has happened to me a few times in Thailand and every time I have just rolled with it and it always turned into a BBFSCIP session. Either because I paid more or the girl just allowed me to remove the condom for one reason or another, such as me taking too long to finish or the lady just changing her mind.
[QUOTE=Rollox;2924731]Butterfly website has no addres and they say outcall massage.
I couldn't find it.
But I found mango.
So I finished with bee and walked out trying to find butterfly again.[/QUOTE]I think it's one of the shops on the left hand side when you're facing Mango massage.
[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;2924594]Thanks for your reports on the Thermae girls. It would have been interesting to see what they would accept if you didn't just agree right away on their initial quotes. I'm sure that's why they like the Asian customers so much in there since they tend not to barter either so these girls are kind of use to this by now.[/QUOTE]I have done that in the past, they would agree for 500 B less maybe (if not in demand that night), but they give a lot of attitude once back in the room. Action becomes mechanical and I would lose 2500 B than saving 500 by bargain.
Now I hear the offer, if not willing, say sorry and move over to the next girl.