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P4P girls
I dont know how much P4P you have had, but I think you are trying to make a general opinion about this.
As I am writing this, I am sitting in my living room watching a Scandinavian Tv show which my wife chose to watch.
She has a background of about 10 years as a dancer in Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza.
We have been married for about 7 years now, and she had no problem adapting to a "new life"
She now works as a nurse, and want to go to school again next year to get a better job.
I lived in Thailand for some years, and I have to say, the most honest and nice girls I met in the Bangkok P4P scene.
Really nice and lovely girls.
I dated a lot of women while living there, and I must say: All of them had a very nice personality.
So maybe you not have to pick a MBA student to meet a very nice woman.
I married P4P, and so far I have no regrets.
Ken.
AND. THEY ARE NOT STUPID!!!
Just my experience.
QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]In your first sentence you refer to all girls "poor or not", and then go on in the rest of the post to talk just about poor girls.
The girls who are not poor, middle-class and above are generally not interested in Farang, especially those on holiday, who come here for sex.
Learn to differentiate and talk about what you know.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Ken Orvik]
I married P4P, and so far I have no regrets.
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I've met a few guys who have married the same as you and are happy, but you guys are in the minority.
You certainly profited in the commodities market so to speak. Good for you.
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[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]I have been with P4P a few times recently. They just don't do it for me. They don't have the right 'look' [/QUOTE]
I'm not sure what p4p scene you are fishing in, but try the upper market scene (a rich thai guy can point you in the right direction). You'll probably find your look there, but it's probably going to cost you 15k-100k for ST.
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[QUOTE=PinkPearl]I'd love to know what the "right" look is. Hopefully nothing resembling the photos on ISG which, in the vast majority of cases, criminally misrepresent the beauty that is widely available in BKK, both in P4P and elsewhere.[/QUOTE]
I think OTH referred to the horrible dresscode of most P4P ladies in BKK.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]I'm not sure what p4p scene you are fishing in, but try the upper market scene (a rich thai guy can point you in the right direction). You'll probably find your look there, but it's probably going to cost you 15k-100k for ST.[/QUOTE]15k - 100k for ST?
This sets a new record.
Please explain.
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]I think OTH referred to the horrible dresscode of most P4P ladies in BKK.[/QUOTE]
I thought he was referring to girls not looking like rich white-skinned Hi-so school-girls.
For me, the dress code is "let me see your body".
Soapies can be difficult with girls seated. Its hard to see if they have a nice arse and nice "gap".
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]I'm not sure what p4p scene you are fishing in, but try the upper market scene (a rich thai guy can point you in the right direction). You'll probably find your look there, but it's probably going to cost you 15k-100k for ST.[/QUOTE]
I actually don't need P4P to meet upper market girls. But, thanks, anyway.
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[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]I actually don't need P4P to meet upper market girls. But, thanks, anyway.[/QUOTE]
I'm not implying that.
I'm talking about the upper market p4p scene which you need Thai connections for. (p4p is about getting laid not "meeting"). You mentioned you can't find the "look". If you got cash, you can get anything you want (including the look you're probably looking for). Having the right amount of money will get you anything you want in Thailand.
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[QUOTE=Thepfu]15k - 100k for ST?
This sets a new record.
Please explain.[/QUOTE]
Lot's of wealthy Thais pay this amount for absolute stunners (model actress types). One who is extremely wealthy, knows about this already and doesn't need this board to get laid. Unfortunately, I'm not in that category.
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]Lot's of wealthy Thais pay this amount for absolute stunners (model actress types).....[/QUOTE]
Here we go again.....One Bangkok Thai's "absolute stunner" is another falang's 'gawky pan-face', just as one Bangkok Thai's 'ugly monkey face' is another falang's 'exotic beauty'.
btw, Amjeck, did you find out from your in-the-know Thai friends about where Pattaya sits in the league table of cesspits in Thailand? We know from the Thai government that Phuket is No.1 and Ranong (that's [i]Ranong[/i], a little along the Andaman coast from Phuket, Retired Army :)) is No.2. Did your Thai friends come up with the relevant statistics on this one? Or are we , like you, just going to have to accept their opinions?
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[QUOTE=Amjeck]I'm not implying that.
I'm talking about the upper market p4p scene which you need Thai connections for. (p4p is about getting laid not "meeting"). You mentioned you can't find the "look". If you got cash, you can get anything you want (including the look you're probably looking for). Having the right amount of money will get you anything you want in Thailand.[/QUOTE]
Yes. I know what you meant. I meant I don't need upper market P4P and the inherent cost, to shag an upper market girl. There are lots of those with the "look", who aren't anywhere near the P4P scene.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]I think OTH referred to the horrible dresscode of most P4P ladies in BKK.[/QUOTE]
Yes. And, the way they walk, the way they talk and overall that "well-used" look is a turn-off.
[QUOTE=Terry Terrier]Here we go again.....One Bangkok Thai's "absolute stunner" is another falang's 'gawky pan-face', just as one Bangkok Thai's 'ugly monkey face' is another falang's 'exotic beauty'.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. This is a boring topic. This all began as a cautionary tale because of Dardo's experience and has decended into the inevitable discussion.
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[QUOTE=Barney Rubber]So who are the best girls for GF's. I still think Middle Class but you still have to be a little lucky! [/QUOTE]I would think it depends hugely on the guy, what type of GF he is looking for. Maybe middle class {MidSo} girls usually have more of an academic education, but they are probably not as sex, worldly, and street wise as a P4P lady who has spent years with gentlemen from all over the globe. I would guess that a LoSo TG is also probably more likely to be ahead of a MidSo TG in the sex ed department.
It has been argued that a MidSo TGF would be more genuine in her love because she is not as financially needy as LoSo TGs. This seems to miss the fact that love and finances are mutually exclusive matters and, therefore, is logicly false.
If a rich Westerner had a Western GF, would she be more likely to be in love if she were a bank manager or a seven eleven employee? It is not possible to know what is in the heart of a person. And true love is a thing that is entirely independent of a person's income or assets level.
Maybe the BF is retired, 65 to 75 years old, and the bank manager figures in a few years he will kick the bucket and leave her a huge inheritance. She is in a more stable financial position than the seven eleven worker, but he provides potential insurance for the banker should her job ever go tits up. Moreover the possibility of getting a huge inheritance might allow her to quit the bank entirely and retire.
Sure she could make a lot more dough in P4P than banking, but that has its risks of disease and violence, not to mention she would feel degraded, have to work very hard, and be in danger of humiliation and police harrasment or arrest. In contrast to all that the old rich guy gives her a great opportunity for a relatively easy out. And that probably in less than 5 or 10 years, since he will not likely live any longer. Maybe he even throws her a few bread crumbs while she patiently waits for him to croak.
So her preference for looking out for herself and her future is to work in the bank and hopefully get this guys dough. Though she's a good actress, maybe even as good as TGs have a reputation for, and like P4P girls may pretend they love a farang, all she really cares about is the bottom line.
There have been a number of Western movies along the line of this theme, with young studs pretending they love old rich ladies, or SYTs duping an elderly guy for everything he has.
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[QUOTE=PinkPearl]Maybe middle class {MidSo} girls usually have more of an academic education, but they are probably not as sex, worldly, and street wise as a P4P lady who has spent years with gentlemen from all over the globe. I would guess that a LoSo TG is also probably more likely to be ahead of a MidSo TG in the sex ed department.[/QUOTE]
This is shear rubbish. I've had far more adventuresome sex with non-P4P, reasonably educated MidSo girls, than I have ever had with any P4P. Regardless of their chosen calling, most P4P girls are Isaan country bumpkins, coming from a fairly narrow-minded, conservative, uneducated background, where their knowledge of sex going in is extremely limited. In contrast, I've met few MidSo girls who didn't have it completely together when it came to sex and who are by nature far more open when it comes to trying different things.
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[QUOTE=PinkPearl]Maybe middle class {MidSo} girls usually have more of an academic education, but they are probably not as sex, worldly, and street wise as a P4P lady who has spent years with gentlemen from all over the globe. I would guess that a LoSo TG is also probably more likely to be ahead of a MidSo TG in the sex ed department.[/QUOTE]Sound of large loud buzzer echoing overhead.
WRONG.
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[QUOTE=Barko]Sound of large loud buzzer echoing overhead.
WRONG.[/QUOTE]Well done, Barko. Succinct and to the point.
Bark, bark.