Siem Reap

Took Mekong Express Bus from PNH ($13), stayed at Angkor Orchid Central Hotel situated walking distance to places of interest as Pub street Hard Rock Cafe and Hip Hop disco. Nice, clean, quiet hotel, but not particularly GF; more like a family place. First indicattion were the hotel rules placed at the rooms door stating that there will be a joiner fee of $20.

As outlined in the forum extensivly action in SR is slim, well my main interest was to visit Angkor what anyway. So please do not expect too much regarding our hobby.

MP.

One afternoon I went to have a look at the massage places in a side street close to Mikes. Well, they are easy to figure out because within seconds I was surrounded by 3 ladies pleading their services. I am not really interested to get more than a massage at a MP, but they would not take a no as an answer and reduced to $3 for 30 minutes massage. OK, I agreed just for couriosity. Well, some unexpected things happened but no sex. I was escorted to an airconditioned room parted by solid walls not reaching to the ceiling. Inside the room the lady insisted I even drop my underpants. Then 2 other ladies entered what I was not comfortable with because too difficult to keep en eye on my belongings. Well, they were quite persistant and only left until I explained that either they leave or I will do so. After some minutes of crap massage the upsell began, starting with offering a handjob for $20. No thank you, I am not interested in extras and for sure not in a lame HJ. She offered to take off shirt and bra. No thanxs. More lines of no customer, no money while striking my dick and offering BJ $50. Sorry for $50 I can get LT with bum bum. To make it short, she went down to $10 HJ or $30 BJ until I told her to stop talking and finish the massage left paying $5 with couriosity satisfied.

Mikes.

I would it describe as a nice place to watch the show, most ladies I would rate below 6 being older but friendly. Don't expect too much english as almost everywhere I went. HM depending on the night maybe 3 out of about 15 were a little bit better looking 7's but hardened with a lot of milage. Finally choose Apon, 25 yo no kids 160 cm with a dirty laugh and I would guess quite new to the business. It was still early, after some small talk I did the interview explaining her my expectations and finally asked about her for LT till breakfast, BBBJ, CFS at least 2 romps. No answer sooo it is up to me? Yes! Ok, I usually pay $40 LT, but because at Mikes there is no BF you will get $50. Maybe $40 would have been enough, but she was the only lady I was interested in and as you will see it would have been meaningless anyway. We stayed a little longer as I figured better to proceed to my hotel when the night shift is working and it is less busy. Despite the limited selection Mikes is reasonable priced, Apon was slowly sipping on her orange juice only asking for a drink for her friend, the bill was below $10. Returning to the hotel at about 11 pm she showed her I'd and I was asked for $7 joiner fee. I kindly explained that I had booked for 2 persons and therefore will not pay a joinerfee. Further details of the hotel policy were explained and I just told them I am not willing to discuss that now and will do so tomorrow with the managment, we went to the room after maybe 5 minutes (I'd kept, will be given back on her leaving after making sure everything is OK).

After relaxing and enjoying the AC Apon went to shower first, then a little foreplay, BBBJ I would call GF-style applied in a caring and loving way but not deepthroat or very experienced. CFS started by her riding me but after that she left the initiative more or less to me for the next 30 minutes without any bullshit or complaints until I came. Then you guessed it, shower, relaxing with some tv and small talk until at about 1 am she started telling me she wants to go home. I told her NO, we agreed on LT until breakfast. She continued begging I told her just give me the reason why you want to leave now till the end both parties stayed calm and kind her explaining only that if she had told me she wants ST only, I would not have taken her yes you got it darling. Reason being at my hometown I can easily get ST for 25 difference being that it would be 20 minutes only. So an extended ST does not seem that good value for me, while I like my morning wood being taken care of so LT with maybe a session in between is what I prefer. Well back to Apon, she finally left, after me explaining I would only pay ST then, with $30 AI put next to her belongings her asking if I would come to see her tomorrow and maybe she would do LT then.

Well, the next day it was ST only again, but offering 2 bum bum till 1 am. Sorry no. Conclusion she might have a boyfriend waiting her what she denied when asked.

Next day I also discussed the joinerfee issue with the assistant manager oh the hotel in a friendly and kind way (as you know, any other way would lead to nothing in asia). He explained the hotel policy and that it is for my safety and the fee is only applied if you have a cambodian guest that is not checked in upon arrival. I answered I am fine with everything regarding my safety and even with any hotel policy because that it is not my business. My point is I booked the hotel with expedia and there (as at any other site is a section where the hotel rules are explained. Further that I am aware that at some upscale places joinerfees are applied, but I am not staying at a 4 or 5 star place and that I would be surprised if any of the 10 hotels close to his place would apply a joinerfee as on my travels through asia and Cambodia this did not happen. I think I made a point although he did not budge and finally told him that I would pay and they might consider explaining the joinerfee in the internet. End of story 2 hours later I got a telefone call that he had talked to the manager and for me no joinerfee would be applied case closed, I tipped $10 at the reception on check out.

Other places.

One night went to triangle lounge upstairs with lifeband playing, you won't miss it, between pubstreet and Sivatha. Took a seat facing the stage at a table for two and had to wait like 10 minutes without being able to place my order until a chubby late twenties blond in a sexy dress arrived; after a look around asking me, if I am fine with her sitting at my table. Sure, (how this will be going on?) she talked a little bit, me understanding only a few words for the music being loud and her english small, but I think I heard beer and no bum bum. WTF could you figure out what she was telling me? OK 1 minute later the waiter magically arrived with a big bottle of beer I told him I want a coke but he only listened to her talking the local language and brought another glass. I kindly explained I do not drink alcohol and want a coke. Well the usual lines were exchanged without me being interested in her, dividing my attention between her and the stage. More no bum bum mumblings who would believe that although it is so obvious finally her parting after paying her bill explaining it is too hot and she has to find another seat. I will never find out what would have happened, but I think this was kind of a scam with the waiter being involved, who might even had called her, that a single prey has arrived. HM I suspect this will have ended expensive and with the no bum bum lines probably with the cops involved accusing me of r8 pe. So be careful!

At the side walk next to the river close to the Night Maket were some FLs sitting alone or in small group of girls, BUT mixed with regular girls please keep this in mind. As you would expect only basic looking, I had a smoke and watched the scene for a while when one was picked up. I did not spot the Fls close to Red Piano although I was offered a massage on pubsteet. After the experience at triangle lounge I checked out Hard Rock Cafe another night, but obviously no action. Had a look at Hip Hop disco that is close by, very busy already at 11 pm, did not go inside, lots of locals both male and female. Being 55 yo not my cup of tea anyway.

Summary best place to go is Mikes if you go there with low expectations, you will get laid for sure, expect the unexpected and have a look around.

Have fun. Next stop Sihanoukville.

S.

Has anyone tried the fannies hanging in the dark by the canal at evenings / nights?

My friend who has lived here for 10 years told me they go for $5 with Khmer men and $10 with foreigners.

Just be careful he told me but could not specify himself HM.

You must be his illegitimate offspring.

[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1681212]I thought I was Vader's only son.[/QUOTE]

Arrived in Siem Reap a few days ago and my experiences mirror what other posters have noted about the town. It's a nice enough place and the AngkorWat ruins are amazing to see and it's not possible to visit all of them in a few days.

However, the night life is not all that great. The main Pub Street area and night markets appears to mainly exist to fleece backpacker tourists and upscale market adventurers. I noticed only a few potential SW's near the corner of the Red Piano and 11 Street but nothing in the clubs such as Hip Hop located on the opposite side of the river across from the Pub Street area. Mikey's had woeful looking ladies and the massage parlors had an assortment of unattractive fat ladies barking at me as I walked by. I was also constantly pestered by tuk tuk drivers.

However, I stopped in one massage place called Cool Sense directly next to the infamous Mikey's as there were several cute girls working there (at the massage place). I selected a very cute girl who gave me a nice massage but it soon became apparent there were no other offers forthcoming. Towards the end of the massage, I mentioned that I planned to visit AngkorWat the next day but due to her poor English skills, the girl thought I was INVITING her to Angkor Wat with me. I decided to go along with it anyway as it is free for Cambodians so no additional cost to me except the tuk-tuk to the site, which I would pay for anyway. I also asked her to meet me after work, which she agreed to do and she asked to bring another friend from work who spoke good English. We met outside my hotel as she did not want to come into the hotel lobby.

I quickly discovered her friend spoke no English. Apparently, the English speaking girl, if she ever existed, was busy. So we went to the Red Piano for drinks whereupon I discovered this girl and her friend also did not have I D's. Any chance of further encounters went out the window with this news. And the other girl said she was hungry but fortunately the restaurant had stopped serving so got out of any further expense and bid them adieu after they drank some fruit juice as they did not drink alcohol. I ran into again later in the evening at HipHop but I did meet them both the following morning and took them to Angkor Wat for their first visit but by the end of the morning, I thought that I must have selected the only two virgins in all of Cambodia for company.

Feeling frustrated, I decided to try Top Town as it has been mentioned in prior reports. I arraigned for my Tuk-tuk driver from Angkor Wat to take me there last evening. It is about a 15 minute drive from the center and would be difficult to find unless you knew the city quite well. However, it is on the main road going to Phnom Penh though this particular drive takes you north for about ten minutes before taking a left on a dirt road for about 1 k.

The mama san was sitting outside and quickly walked me inside. There must have been close to 40 girls sitting around the main room. However, the mamaSan brought me to another nearby room where I sat for a few minutes. I told her that I wanted the girl to speak some English and she quoted me $80 USD for short time. About 20 girls came in the room and nothing over a 7. I finally asked 2 girls to sit with me with the intention of choosing one and renegotiating the price with the mama. Both the girls were older, perhaps early 30's, and claimed later to be childless so that was a surprise. Anyway, after my initial discussion, it was revealed that neither girls would kiss and the mama san said none of the Cambodian girls here will kiss on the lips. It was also indicated that no Vietnamese girls were working there so that option was out. Flummoxed and not pleased by this news, I decided to at least increase my odds of a good experience by selecting both girls, an ultimate really bad decision. I told Mama San, I would take both girls for long term for $100 total. She got on the phone with someone and she agreed to the price though said they would have to return after two pops so not exactly LT.

Back in the room things headed south quickly. First, neither girl would allow me to touch her nipples or breasts, DATY was totally out of the question, and a BJ, covered or otherwise, was also not on their menu. Frustrated, I put my shirt on and told them to leave though realizing that I was probably out $100. They then said 'oh it will be great sex anyway'. Basically, decided to forge ahead but it was predictably terrible. The girls pussies felt like the texture of burnt toast. That is what happens when no DATY is involved -- and they both had a Bush like the jungles surrounding Angkor Wat! After all this nonsense, I had difficulty having an orgasm and one girl had the audacity to ask if I smoked Ice. No, I said, it's the sex that sucks. Both were issuing the standard fake moans, etc. and one girl constantly was on the phone talking to various people including the Mama San according to the other girl. It was without question one of the worst sexual experiences I have ever encountered in SE Asia. I think that I will stick to viewing the ruins for the duration of my time here.

In other words, my recommendation is don't go to this place. I realize that I could have selected another girl (s) with possible better results but I am bit doubtful based on the performance of these two. BTW: the tuk tuk driver told me the other place in REP mentioned in prior reports had closed.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1698071]Arrived in Siem Reap a few days ago and my experiences mirror what other posters have noted about the town. It's a nice enough place and the AngkorWat ruins are amazing to see and it's not possible to visit all of them in a few days.

However, the night life is not all that great. The main Pub Street area and night markets appears to mainly exist to fleece backpacker tourists and upscale market adventurers. I noticed only a few potential SW's near the corner of the Red Piano and 11 Street but nothing in the clubs such as Hip Hop located on the opposite side of the river across from the Pub Street area. Mikey's had woeful looking ladies...[/QUOTE]I am going SR soon and heard from some people that when you go to clubs in pub street there are many freelancers.

However, as you said in your report you did not see any? Or few?

How many clubs did you try and what time?

Hey guys,

So I booked my trip to Cambodia on Friday past and have been RTFF ever since!

I have surmised that SR is more about Angkor what than you know what, but hey, it beats being in the UK! I'm heading with low expectations in terms of mongering, knowing that PP and Sihanoukville await, sandwiched between two weekends in Bangkok! As I sit in my living room in the miserable surroundings of Britain, a Bangkok sandwich sounds quite appealing.

Can anybody confirm if Blossoming Romduol Lodge is girl friendly? I have undertaken the usual forum and Google searches, but to no avail. That probably means no and from what I have been reading, it won't make a whole lot of difference! But you never know, find a gem and keep her in your contacts for the duration, better the devil you know and all that.

Anyway, surely there are a raft of European / Aussie / American girls on their vacation more than willing to share the love? What would you suggest in terms of backpacker places to meet these types, should the Cambodian / Viet search fail?

I will be sure to report my finding during and / or after my trip.

Kindest regards.

[QUOTE=CtrDavid;1701419]Anyway, surely there are a raft of European / Aussie / American girls on their vacation more than willing to share the love? What would you suggest in terms of backpacker places to meet these types,[/QUOTE]1) In Ochheuteal beach, Dolphins and JJs attracts the backpackers and freelancers. Scene occurs later in the night.

A lot of girls hang out in Ocheuteal beach during the day time. Not a real pick up scene, but if you have game, it can be done.

Monkey Republic has a lot of backpackers around.

There are party boats that goes to the islands. You can take day trips. Never done it, but it seems fun. It will be a boat full of drunk, young people.

2) In Siem Reap, it would be Pub Street. Doesn't feel like a meat market, but many westerners around. I didn't see many streetwalkers, as reported by some people (I was there 2 years ago).

3) In Phnom Penh, the backpacker scene was next to the lake. But too bad they filled up most of the lake and kicked out the backpacker scene. The scene, whatever is left of it, moved to Street 172. Too bad; the scene on Street 172 doesn't seem that good.

4) Your best bets to pick up backpackers would be Bangkok's Khoa Sanh Road and Vang Vieng in Laos.

I think you would have better luck picking up a tourist or backpacker at Angkor what or Angkor Thom during the day. A little bit of game goes a long way here. The Pub Street scene seems to be rather boring with a few inebriated coeds around the Temple Bar. Overall, the nightlife scene has little to recommend. I went to HipHop and sat outside as the music inside was deafening. The Red Piano is a nice place to sit outside and watch the world go by. It also had the best Cuba Libre (rum and coke) I have had in Asia. It is even listed on the menu properly as Cuba Libre as one would order it in the Americas. I think they added some bitters to it.

I can confirm that extra services are offered at the massage place with the ladies in red on the road to the night market. They aren't color-coordinated during the day, but there are usually a few ladies available then as well. It's about halfway down the street on your left as you're walking towards the night market. I've been there twice recently and was offered a BJ for $20 during my one visit and "boom boom" for $25 during my other visit. Both girls were in their late 20's and decent looking, but far from spectacular. Nothing more than a HJ seems to be available at any of the other places on that street.

Also, just a word of warning. A few recent posts have mentioned the SWs at the Pub Street intersection, but you should know that few, if any, of those are natural-born ladies.

Can anyone please update me which disco / clubs to go to pick up girls?

And what is the good KTV?

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1698071]Arrived in Siem Reap a few days ago and my experiences mirror what other posters have noted about the town. It's a nice enough place and the AngkorWat ruins are amazing to see and it's not possible to visit all of them in a few days.

However, the night life is not all that great. The main Pub Street area and night markets appears to mainly exist to fleece backpacker tourists and upscale market adventurers. I noticed only a few potential SW's near the corner of the Red Piano and 11 Street but nothing in the clubs such as Hip Hop located on the opposite side of the river across from the Pub Street area. Mikey's had woeful looking ladies and the massage parlors had an assortment of unattractive fat ladies barking at me as I walked by. I was also constantly pestered by tuk tuk drivers.

However, I stopped in one massage place called Cool Sense directly next to the infamous Mikey's as there were several cute girls working there (at the massage place). I selected a very cute girl who gave me a nice massage but it soon became apparent there were no other offers forthcoming. Towards the end of the massage, I mentioned that I planned to visit AngkorWat the next day but due to her poor English skills, the girl thought I was INVITING her to Angkor Wat with me. I decided to go along with it anyway as it is free for Cambodians so no additional cost to me except the tuk-tuk to the site, which I would pay for anyway. I also asked her to meet me after work, which she agreed to do and she asked to bring another friend from work who spoke good English. We met outside my hotel as she did not want to come into the hotel lobby.

I quickly discovered her friend spoke no English. Apparently, the English speaking girl, if she ever existed, was busy. So we went to the Red Piano for drinks whereupon I discovered this girl and her friend also did not have I D's. Any chance of further encounters went out the window with this news. And the other girl said she was hungry but fortunately the restaurant had stopped serving so got out of any further expense and bid them adieu after they drank some fruit juice as they did not drink alcohol. I ran into again later in the evening at HipHop but I did meet them both the following morning and took them to Angkor Wat for their first visit but by the end of the morning, I thought that I must have selected the only two virgins in all of Cambodia for company.
[/QUOTE]You may have picked two ladies who were not Cambodian or who were Cambodian muslims. At a guess they were possibly Rohinga from Burma / Myanmar. That would have explained their interest in seeking Angkor what.

I have also met Cambodian muslims before. I think they are from the remnants of the Cham people. Some are virgins until they marry, or so I've heard. But there was one lady in Snooky who I found out much later was Muslim even though she was one of the most prolific around. She once offered me ST even though her expat boyfriend was in town, apparently sleeping it off in his guesthouse.

[QUOTE=Simian;1717563]You may have picked two ladies who were not Cambodian or who were Cambodian muslims. At a guess they were possibly Rohinga from Burma / Myanmar. That would have explained their interest in seeking Angkor what.

I have also met Cambodian muslims before. I think they are from the remnants of the Cham people. Some are virgins until they marry, or so I've heard. But there was one lady in Snooky who I found out much later was Muslim even though she was one of the most prolific around. She once offered me ST even though her expat boyfriend was in town, apparently sleeping it off in his guesthouse.[/QUOTE]Actually where is the best place to hunt? I don't see any suggestion from anyone.

[QUOTE=Xfreak0000;1701292]I am going SR soon and heard from some people that when you go to clubs in pub street there are many freelancers.

However, as you said in your report you did not see any? Or few?

How many clubs did you try and what time?[/QUOTE]I am in Siem Reap now. I did see a few in thr triangle bar and in the corner bar. A local told me X-Bar is full of them, but I did not go there.

[QUOTE=ToroRojo;1746423]I am in Siem Reap now. I did see a few in thr triangle bar and in the corner bar. A local told me X-Bar is full of them, but I did not go there.[/QUOTE]Are you actively mongering or are you just in the area for Angkor what? Tried to get an idea of what Pub St. Looks like right now as I'll be there next week for a couple of days to start off my SEA trip.

This one will be a bit brief, as I'm using a phone. Until I DL a good secure browser for my MacBook that I can delete after the trip, my writing is a little cramped.

Got off a Koreana flight from Seoul around 22:15, was out of the airport in 20, where I was greeted by the receptionist / tuk tuk driver that took me to the Bunwin. Paid 50/ nt for the suite, which achieves expectations, though slightly off the beaten path--from my frequent RTFF, I've found this to be a recurring theme. Anyhow, by the time I was showered, changed, and ready to hit Pub St. , it was 1 am. Well, I slept none of the 11.5 hour flight to Seoul from California, and all of the 5. 5 hour flight to Siem Reap after the fact; it was either Pub Street on scotch alone in my room. With that said, I hit it up in the hopes of seeing one of the MPs at 13°21'19.9"and 103°51'11.4" (Google now displays that street as simply "Night Market St", by the by).

Get down to Pub St, and although it's looking fun and active, that's not what I'm looking for At that moment. A bit of primer on myself; I'm a dark-skinned Black guy, later mid-20's, with a very (at times described as "generic") American accent; in the DR I'm often confused for a Haitian until I speak. I say this only to provide you a sense of context, because I know that whereas I enjoyed the atmosphere of late night Pub St. , it very much struck me as a touristy drag. Going to try Hip-Hop tomorrow, provided I get a pop in first. The moral of this story is that anything not in Pub Street is basically empty or closed after midnight (on a Friday, nonetheless).

Speaking of getting a pop, I rolled over to the street where all the MPs are, and it was pitch-black, to my chagrin. Had a few tuk-tuk drivers proposition to take me to boom boom, and in addition to a motorcycle girl posted on the corner to what I'm now shortening down to NM St, I saw a Viet stunner turn the corner down that street as well. Tempted to follow her down said dark alley, but my big head won out and I walked back down to Pub St. To have another brew at Temple Bar as I waited on my tuk-tuk to swoop me up. About to take an hour nap, go get "Angkor what at Sunrise" off my bucket list, and hopefully get a massage or some proper action. Stay tuned; going to try not to peter out on this trip report, wish me luck!

Ah, and if you're in PP, HCMC, or AC / Subic in the next two weeks, shoot me a PM. Some people fret or assume I'll fret over an age gap, but that's dumb; I'm not trying to bang *you* after all, so let's have a beer!