Minsk

[QUOTE=Rugga;2550382]I have been to Minsk 3 times in 2020 and spent 3-4 days each time. The scene is quite challenging. Firstly and as has been said before in a post below there are no such things as brothels for in call, no gents clubs, and no red light districts. The authorities are strict here and anybody breaking the rules gets into some serious trouble. These limitations alone are a big issue when seeking the hobby!

Secondly, yes there are nightclubs and bars where you can meet women and discreetly take home for pay. And the big but is club girls will want $300+ at least to leave with you, some quoted $500. In some of these clubs like Black house I was charged $100 just to get in because they insist you must be at a table. I could not work out why in quite a poor country prices are this steep. Another thing, hotels are quite expensive compared.

There are very nice local bars but it's hard to talk to local girls. English is not spoken so widely and even less than Kiev. It would be rare to meet a local girl and score in the short time you have. They want to "get to know you" BS in other words take me for free meals sucker. I had some local contacts as I was based in a nearby country where I met them so did have some bedroom fun but these are totally non-pro.

Dating apps you can try but many scammers, time wasters and the lack of responsiveness wastes a huge amount of time.

Minsk is no hidden gem no way! Its just not popular for a reason. Instead it's hard work and expensive. Maybe if you had weeks to spend here there will of course be possibilities but much better options elsewhere.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. I had the same impression of Minsk. Its just too much hard work. Kiev is many times better, lot cheaper and has far less hurdles.

This is a sad read while having browser tabs open for flights to Minsk (and Kiev). I was trying to figure out how many days would be sufficient for Minsk, before moving to Kiev. Now, I'm having a doubt. I wouldn't be willing to spend more than approximately 100 euros per meeting. So, it's Tinder, Badoo and Mamba if anything?

I haven't been to Minsk since 2019 because of Covid. I had such an amazing time there in 2019 I had made plans to go back for 2 weeks in 2020. Yes it might be a bit more work in Minsk but the rewards are top notch. Of course, these are my experiences from 2019, so I am not sure how much has changed since then. I only speak English as a side note. Rich Cat I pulled a girl each night I went. Friday and Saturday. I advise to get there a bit early then when it is peak times. Lots of girls get there early so it was very easy to talk to, have a drink with them. Many speak enough English to get by, but google translator can be your friend. If you don't have much game in terms of holding a conversation and making her laugh then I advise to get some bottle service and have them send girls to you. Yes you may pay a bit more, and a few girls just want some free drinks but you can tell right away who you have a shot with and who you don't. If you aren't interested or she isn't interested in you, just send her away and another will come. Black House I went on a Sunday. Just see a girl sitting at the bar by herself and say Hello. This is also the same for Rich Cat as well.

The gold mine of Minsk is BarDot at the Hilton. This is where the girls go. 90% of the girls sitting at the bar are there for a reason. I suggest getting a room at the Hilton. If she enjoys your company, she will spend the night. Plus you get a number the next morning if you want.

I was hoping to come back to Minsk this summer but I don't think it will happen. So I plan on 2022. Hopefully you all enjoy Minsk as much as I did. My experiences may be different then yours so I so good luck and have fun.

I googled those places (for like 3rd time) and still get the same impression. I don't feel comfortable at such places. So now that I've booked a place for a week, I'm going to try what Internet has to offer. But what would you say for the current price politics? From one hour to three hours. I have trouble finding about what should be considered a decent compensation for girls in the year 2021.

Also, I read from this thread that some hotels have had flyers in elevators, with numbers to contact for girls. I'm not going to stay in a hotel, but what other places would be a good place to come to contact with such numbers?

Or is there bars / hotel bars that would be good to spot amateurish girls of the trade?

I'd be surprised if you find flyers in hotels. It's hard to find local call outs even. Even if you did you're looking at Euro 200+ an hour. And no I don't think they'll bring prices down. I heard they put prices up during 2021 to compensate. It's not the sort of place where it's easy to operate, they're very strict.

You can try the upmarket hotel bars and clubs mentioned but why bother when you can get same meat for a third of the price elsewhere.

Let us know how you get along.

[QUOTE=Desin;2554151]Also, I read from this thread that some hotels have had flyers in elevators, with numbers to contact for girls. I'm not going to stay in a hotel, but what other places would be a good place to come to contact with such numbers?

Or is there bars / hotel bars that would be good to spot amateurish girls of the trade?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Walky23;2550487]Thanks for the report. I had the same impression of Minsk. Its just too much hard work. Kiev is many times better, lot cheaper and has far less hurdles.[/QUOTE]Talking about my pre Covid experiences, I completely agree with you that the prices are lower in Ukraine, by far. Despite of the fact that Belorussians WGs being a bit better looking IMHO, but just a bit.

Reading the news of today, the EU just closed the air transport with the Belorussia because of an incident with Ryan Air. Again many mongers will have to wait until crises is over. One more crisis. I just don't understand why the EU are making so much drama with something that even the EU practice in the past: google "Morales plane forced to land in Austria". So they themselves did exactly the same in the past, with no consequences at all. Pure double standard practiced by Brussels, once again.

[QUOTE=SanGaetano;2562261]Talking about my pre Covid experiences, I completely agree with you that the prices are lower in Ukraine, by far. Despite of the fact that Belorussians WGs being a bit better looking IMHO, but just a bit.

Reading the news of today, the EU just closed the air transport with the Belorussia because of an incident with Ryan Air. Again many mongers will have to wait until crises is over. One more crisis. I just don't understand why the EU are making so much drama with something that even the EU practice in the past: google "Morales plane forced to land in Austria". So they themselves did exactly the same in the past, with no consequences at all. Pure double standard practiced by Brussels, once again.[/QUOTE]So you think its ok for a dictator to force a plane down with a fighter jet and arrest people on board, not just arrest probably be Beaton up. And imprisoned for a lot of years. The EU and the UK and more countries have to take a stand. We all know that putin is behind it as well, so he's probably running the show now in Minsk.

The incident that you briefly note about Evo Morales, the former president of Bolivia, and his flight that landed in Vienna, Austria is not remotely the same as the Belarus and Ryan Air flight from this past weekend. If anyone is interested, they should Google the Wikipedia page for a description of this event.

[QUOTE=SanGaetano;2562261]Talking about my pre Covid experiences, I completely agree with you that the prices are lower in Ukraine, by far. Despite of the fact that Belorussians WGs being a bit better looking IMHO, but just a bit.

Reading the news of today, the EU just closed the air transport with the Belorussia because of an incident with Ryan Air. Again many mongers will have to wait until crises is over. One more crisis. I just don't understand why the EU are making so much drama with something that even the EU practice in the past: google "Morales plane forced to land in Austria". So they themselves did exactly the same in the past, with no consequences at all. Pure double standard practiced by Brussels, once again.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tomasb;2562507]The incident that you briefly note about Evo Morales, the former president of Bolivia, and his flight that landed in Vienna, Austria is not remotely the same as the Belarus and Ryan Air flight from this past weekend. If anyone is interested, they should Google the Wikipedia page for a description of this event.[/QUOTE]But I think it was similar enough to essentially be for the same purpose. To force an aircraft to land because there's a belief there is somebody onboard who you want to get your hands on.

Under the circumstances everyone with a warrant will be detained should a plane have an emergency landing. Either the detained also knew of such possibility or he was used to advance a political motive. Please educate yourselves with the detailed nature of a charge against the detained.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2562509]But I think it was similar enough to essentially be for the same purpose. To force an aircraft to land because there's a belief there is somebody onboard who you want to get your hands on.[/QUOTE]However, his plane was not forced to land. This was noted in Wikipedia article:

(Evo Morales plane) and landed in Vienna after pilots requested emergency landing due to issues with fuel level indicators and thus inability to confirm sufficient amount of fuel to continue flight.

Several EU countries denied his plane entry to their air space because they thought he was harboring a fugitive (Eric Snowden), which he was not.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;2562700]However, his plane was not forced to land. This was noted in Wikipedia article:

(Evo Morales plane) and landed in Vienna after pilots requested emergency landing due to issues with fuel level indicators and thus inability to confirm sufficient amount of fuel to continue flight.

Several EU countries denied his plane entry to their air space because they thought he was harboring a fugitive (Eric Snowden), which he was not.[/QUOTE]The effect was the same. The EU conspired to force a plane to land in its territory. The Morales case was actually worse because it was not just a regular commercial plane but a plane carrying a head of state with diplomatic immunity. Plus Edward Snowden was a whistle-blower who exposed the truth about CIA spying, whereas this guy in Belarus is a CIA agent who tried to overthrow the government. Major hypocrisy from the West and the fake news.

Ryan Air plane was harboring a fugitive. According to the Belorussian law, which is a sovereign country with a sovereign air space.

I am sure that all makes sense in Mr Lukashenkos head, just have the fighter jet take that Irish plane down. Only a dictator could do such thing.

[QUOTE=SanGaetano;2562774]Ryan Air plane was harboring a fugitive. According to the Belorussian law, which is a sovereign country with a sovereign air space.[/QUOTE]