Sofia

[QUOTE=MikeSV; 1402207]Do you have a credit card? There are ATMs everywhere, so in my two weeks here so far I've just taken out cash with my Visa cards (and the fee per withdrawal has been within reason, but I imagine that depends on your own bank).

I've been so busy seeing the city and getting a ton of practical matters in place after moving here, that I haven't had time to try out the pay-to-play scene yet. But I have certainly been overwhelmed by the sheer amount of pretty, beautiful and frequently downright gorgeous girls on the streets. And I'm used to consider the standards in my native Scandinavia rather high in that regard.

Getting by in English is a bit of an issue though. Not nearly as many people as I had expected, even among the younger generations, speak English (or at least aren't comfortable enough with it to say so when you ask). Thankfully I've had a few Bulgarians. Fluent in English. Help me out with some practical matters, and obviously general shopping and stuff like that can just be done with a bit of pointing when need be, but since I'm going to live here for at least a year. Indefinitely if I like it, and so far it's been an extremely positive experience. I definitely plan to learn more of the language (I pretty much only know some canned phrases, and I'm fairly comfortable with the cyrillic alphabet) as quickly as possible.[/QUOTE]I agree, I lived in Sweden for a while, but the girls in Bulgaria are mega gorgeous, way attractive. I find Slavic girls in general to be quite attractive and they compare favourably with Scandinavian girls.

Random more or less entertaining experiences from my first month in Sofia.

- Had a lousy night out on Rock 'and' Rolla (arrived too late, around Midnight). Too crowded, the music too loud to hear your own thoughts, the few free spots marked with "reversed" signs.

Jim Beam Club (on Boulevard Vitosha, not in Studentski Grad. I haven't been there yet but will later this month with a local friend) afterwards was a bit more tolerable, but I'm getting too old for that shit (hell, I've pretty much felt that since I was 25). Give me a relaxed bar or café with the music at conversation level.

- Went to Fetish Club after the previous two. Most expensive night of my life. The girls were cute enough and spoke English pretty well, but as a pretty much first time strip club visitor (they are a rarity these days, and even when I was younger, where I come from) I was completely suckered into spending a small fortune, including exorbitant taxes not listed on the drinks card, on drinks for myself and the lady company. I was sitting with two for the first hour, plus a third for the last half hour or so, a real hottie who had looked bored as hell while dancing on the stage, but lit up considerably when she joined our table. Her job of course, but still a remarkable transformation.

I ended up in a private room, but the first additional large bill I paid there gave me nothing but a naked girl (if I had wanted all three the price would have been near astronomical) lying next to me with no touching of the fun areas. That's where I finally decided I'd been stupid enough for one night, said good night and left.

- And went straight into a taxi, not quite over my stupidity after all, and asked him to take me somewhere I could get laid. I was pretty drunk at that point, but I'm around 80% sure I ended up at the V2 place someone else mentioned on the previous place. A bunch of bored girls were sitting around in a very run down apartment (that's probably putting it nicely) , I picked one I found attractive through my blurred vision, and had some of the worst and most mechanical sex I've ever had with a prostitute. Though in her defense I really was so drunk at that time that I would almost certainly have been a terrible lay even with a passionate girlfriend.

- I've had a fantastic weekend in a mountain town with a cute girl I met on a local dating site (sadly she has a boyfriend she's not willing to give up on). And not of the gold digging kind, it's been a long time since I've met a girl of any nationality who was so insistent on splitting the bills evenly.

- I've had, during day time and with no alcohol on board, two wonderful massages (one with one masseuse, one with two) , with very happy endings of course, on Boulevard Patriarch Evtimiy. Not the hottest girls I've ever laid my eyes on, but very good at their job. Paying a lot more on top on top of the massage price for them to be almost naked (they leave their panties on) isn't really worth it though, particularly when you're lying face down at least half the time.

- I've had my jacket pocket (fortunately just one of them, with only money in it) emptied by a streetwalker, who dragged me around by hand in the center and into a back alley (I don't think I've ever been so non-aroused about what I assumed was going to be a blowjob) , after I hadn't managed to find any interesting open bars or clubs on a Tuesday around Midnight, and thought "what the hell, I'm here to try new things". It involved a guy showing up (her accomplish I'm sure, he had no doubt been following us) , her telling me to run, which I did since I wasn't really in the mood to potentially get properly mugged as well, rounding a few street corners and getting stopped by a police patrol, who fortunately let me go without further questions after asking about my nationality.

Well worth the 80 stolen leva, just for the excitement. But like the strip club experience, definitely not one I plan to repeat.

Welcome to Sofia.

Next up for me as far as pay-to-play goes will be trying some of the (seemingly) private ads on Bezplatno. Bg and adamieva. Info. And quite likely take a weekly massage as well.

Not as many girls as I had hoped. Or people in general. Of any ages, speak English, so picking up non-working girls on bars, the streets, clubs etc. Is going to cause some language challenges, on top of all the usual challenges. And I'm also a stupid romantic at heart, so I'm hoping to meet a nice local girl at some point (and one who doesn't just want my money of course) , but until then I'll sample some of the seemingly fairly large paid sex market here in Sofia.

And keep working on learning conversational Bulgarian as quickly as possible, to make everything a bit. Or a lot. Easier for myself.

Overall I really like the city so far, and for now I can definitely easily see myself sticking around longer than the one year minimum I had set for myself.

MikeSV.

How much does you need to live a desent life there?

2 rooms apt + services, HS I-net, food, transport, classes in Bulgarian, resturants, good looking girls at will or NEED!

Can you live a good life on €2200 / month?

[QUOTE=MikeSV; 1402207]Do you have a credit card? There are ATMs everywhere, so in my two weeks here so far I've just taken out cash with my Visa cards (and the fee per withdrawal has been within reason, but I imagine that depends on your own bank).

I've been so busy seeing the city and getting a ton of practical matters in place after moving here, that I haven't had time to try out the pay-to-play scene yet. But I have certainly been overwhelmed by the sheer amount of pretty, beautiful and frequently downright gorgeous girls on the streets. And I'm used to consider the standards in my native Scandinavia rather high in that regard.

Getting by in English is a bit of an issue though. Not nearly as many people as I had expected, even among the younger generations, speak English (or at least aren't comfortable enough with it to say so when you ask). Thankfully I've had a few Bulgarians. Fluent in English. Help me out with some practical matters, and obviously general shopping and stuff like that can just be done with a bit of pointing when need be, but since I'm going to live here for at least a year. Indefinitely if I like it, and so far it's been an extremely positive experience. I definitely plan to learn more of the language (I pretty much only know some canned phrases, and I'm fairly comfortable with the cyrillic alphabet) as quickly as possible.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo; 1413712]MikeSV.

How much does you need to live a desent life there?

2 rooms apt + services, HS I-net, food, transport, classes in Bulgarian, resturants, good looking girls at will or NEED!

Can you live a good life on €2200 / month?[/QUOTE] (Long post ahead!.)

That's obviously going to depend very heavily on the individual's definition of a "good life".

But some general impressions so far based on the five weeks I've been here (actually it's getting close to six, time flies when you're having fun.).

I pay €350 a month for a pretty nice and modern furnished 60 m2 apartment, six kilometers from the center of Sofia (but prices on these types of apartments didn't really seem to be all that location dependent, I simply took one I liked in a neighbourhood I liked). Don't expect to find anything under €300 if you want something with furniture that doesn't look like hideous leftovers from the 70s and kitchen appliances from roughly the same time.

My first electricity bill. For around three weeks in the apartment. Was a measly €8. Looking forward to seeing how much it's going to cost having the air condition running this Summer, but based on that first bill it's certainly going to be a hell of a lot less than it would have cost me back in Scandinavia.

I haven't seen my water and heating bill yet, but it should be cheap too.

I pay €12 for 40 Mbit fiber Internet (which has so far been as rock solid as what I was used to, and they came to install it within a couple of days) + around 50 TV stations.

I've unfortunately had to make do without 3G on my smartphone, as I need my long stay card (still got some practical things I need to get in place before I can apply) before the phone companies will allow me a subscription. And I haven't been able to find any pre-paid plans (I have one of those) that includes reasonably priced 3G.

A monthly card to all public transportation is a little over €25.

Taxis cost probably (factoring in starting costs and time based costs when stuck in traffic etc.) slightly over €0. 50 on average per kilometer. That's a fraction of what I was used to. Taxis were something I used to take a few times a year, now I just jump into one if I'm in a hurry or don't feel like waiting for a bus or tram (which otherwise all run very frequently).

Food and drink (alcohol, sodas etc.) ranges from relatively cheap (McD, Subway etc.) to more often very cheap (regular restaurants, supermarkets) compared to Scandinavia (we're talking 3-5+ times cheaper).

A large beer in a typical bar or restaurant will set you back around €1. Hard liquor is also cheap (I've been drinking a fair amount of whisky when going out, but usually getting so much of it that I'm struggling a bit to remember price examples.).

Buying things like clothes in known brand chains or similar (eg. H&M, Zara and many others in the countless large malls around Sofia) is slightly cheaper than what I was used to, but not much.

I bought a pair of Salomon hiking boots that cost me around €120 on sale. Probably more or less the same they cost in most Western European countries.

Similarly with electronics. You won't be saving anything there (and in fact people from for instance the US would probably find it offensively expensive, since I know they're used to low prices on that compared to Europe in general).

Basically I find most consumable products and services very cheap, while non-consumable products. And particularly "luxury" items. Are often priced almost as I've been used to.

And then there are the girls. And holy fuck there are so many gorgeous specimens. I just took a walk down the main shopping street (Boulevard Vitosha) this afternoon, after an enjoyable little massage in one of the side streets, to enjoy the increasingly pleasant weather. And there are so many beautiful girls it's almost insane.

I went out some friends this past weekend and spent all night in a club (not my usual choice of environment at all, I hate places where you can't have a conversation and I actively need to try to drag girls outside when I want to talk to them.) , and obviously it was similarly well stocked with extremely attractive ladies in their 20s.

As for the "at will and need" part of your question. Good luck with that, from what I've read I think a place like Thailand might be a whole lot better for those kinds of expectations.

If you want to stick with the pros it seems like Bezplatno. Bg and adamieva. Info are getting more and more ads every day, and prices are now regularly down around 60 leva (€30) for an hour. I've been told that times are very tough in Bulgaria at the moment for many people, as in so many other places, so that probably has an effect.

But if you're aiming for freebies as well. And I've definitely been working both angles. Expect to have to work just as hard for it as in many other cities around the world. Just waving large bills and credit cards around probably isn't going to cut it in many or most cases, unless you also have at least some charm and "game" to add to the mix. I have however met quite a few really nice girls who speak English very well, and I've certainly not noticed any obvious anti-foreigner attitudes among them (but then they are the ones who speak English of course, naturally it's been a lot harder to try to communicate with some of the many people of all ages who don't speak English or at best very little).

Finally, there are a lot of rich people in Sofia, so again it's probably not going to be easy to impress as the "rich foreigner" these days. Unless you really are. Well, rich.

My Bulgarian friends say it's a country of upper and lower class (a huge, more or less poor lower class and an obviously much smaller but still very noticeable upper class) with barely any middle class to speak off. I'm the new Bulgarian middle class.

Sorry if it offends anyone that I have posted this here but there are more people reading this thrread! .

I hear that Hotel Bulgaria in Burgas is girl friendly. Can anyone confirm or deny this?

Does anyone know of any other girl friendly hotels on Burgas and Sunny Beach?

Can anyone recommend any escorts in Burgas or Sunny Beach?

Sorry to be on the ask but there doesn't appear to be a lot of info out there.

S

[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo;1413712]Can you live a good life on €2200 / month?[/QUOTE]To Answer your Question in Short for €2200 = 4400 Levas, you can live like a King, now with assumption you are all by yourself, you are talking about 1 person as in you and your expense. We are Family of 4 and we scrap by with 2000 Levas not a life of luxury but we do live in basic comfort.

Food costs us 4 people 1000 Levas = 500 Euros, we do not visit Restaurants, Bars etc, but once a while we have a Donair = Shwarma or Kebabchete = Kebab Bulgarian style outside.

Any Luxury is going to cost Like Hoteling, Baring, Nightclubing, No Clue on Girls but you can get an idea on Bezplatno and I think the rate is 60/70 Levas = 30 Euros.

I am from USA and as MikeSV has written I do find most things in Bulgaria expensive and below standard, but you Europeans as in West Europeans will find it relatively cheap, MikeSV's comments are on the dot.

[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo; 1413712]MikeSV.

How much does you need to live a desent life there?

2 rooms apt + services, HS I-net, food, transport, classes in Bulgarian, resturants, good looking girls at will or NEED!

Can you live a good life on €2200 / month?[/QUOTE]I totally agree with MikeSV post everything is pretty much as he described it. As for the cost of living I don't know what is your lifestyle and what you are used to do but in a country with a minimum salary of 140 EUR and in Sofia maybe 200 EUR you are asking if you can live a decent life with 2200 EUR? This is a dream salary for 95% of the Bulgarians so you can yes live a pretty good decent life. As for the girls as MikeSV said there are a lot and I mean a lot of rich people in Sofia but the good thing is that there a lot of hot girls too. So using only your money is not a good strategy you have to try and find some girls which are interested in foreigners (like in every country) and as most young people study English at school I don't think you will have any problem with that. Just take a walk in spring or summer at Vitoshka and you will get your motivation believe me.

Hi everyone,

I'm trying to consider which hotel to choose when coming to Sofia, where bringing girls back for sure won't be a problem. Also one which is closest to the action in the city, particularly being within walking distance of things to see

And working girls.

Also any other info to get the maximum out of my 3 days there would be welcome.

P. S: If we ever meet there, I'll buy that person a beer.

Went on foot patrol last night around Lion bridge, and saw a total of for girls, talked to two of them, one was cute but had a beer gut, agreed to for 50 lev plus 10 for hotel across the street, I decided no, and went on to the other that was a cute gypsy with nice body but face looked like she had some miles on it with messed up teeth, she said 50 lev plus 10 also, I decided no also as both looked kind of dirty, the other two looked ok but were talking to some door bouncer mafia type at a casino, so I did not speak with them. Walking the entire area this is all I saw. I walked past kamasutra buy did not want to pay more since my buddy that speaks Bulgarian went to bed early.

Good luck

Well had couple of questions.

1. What does standard sex involves?

2. What does it mean French love without condom?

I see this in most of the Adv. In BG.

I always thought French = Oral. But it definetly mean something else here.

I recently visited Bulgaria and stayed a few days in Sofia. Regarding P4P I only tried escorts but failed to find one suiting my requirements (beauty). I only tried Lili ([url]http://www.callgirlsbg.com/callgirl149-high-class-escort-service[/url]) but although an image search did not indicate a fake I was disappointed by the real Lili showing up (she claimed that it is her picture though). So although she is somewhat pretty I declined.

Then I tried anakondi. Com. After contacting them by phone they sent me an email with an link to pictures showing the models with face. Regarding the pictures I only was interested in Jessika, but 500€/3h was too expensive in my eyes. So I sent back an email stating that and got an reply that I should not discuss the girls / pictures by email.

And that was all for Sofia. I saw a few streetwalkers (around Varna and Vratsa) but although they only wanted 10€ for Sex (5€ for blowjob) I declined also.

So I was unseccessful, but that was not the main purpose for coming to Bulgaria. With more time maybe it would have been possible to get in contact with a beautiful bulgarian girl (in Sofia it they looked promising) , but for this you need more time.

[QUOTE=Zawarya; 1453940]Well had couple of questions.

1. What does standard sex involves?

2. What does it mean French love without condom?

I see this in most of the Adv. In BG.

I always thought French = Oral. But it definetly mean something else here.[/QUOTE]In the ads it is written either french with condom (frenska s kondom) or french without condom (frenska bes condom). Of course this means oral, nothing else.

Standard sex means standard sex in contrast to threesome, anal, bdsm, fetish etc.

[QUOTE=RogerRed; 1389678]And NOTHING!

I am older, speak good Bulgarian, prefer semi-pros, and the winter is terrible! 2 students will be checked (separately) during the weekend, but since I'm not into hookers, I may not complain. Many offers at the known websites, many wanebe's=girls trying their luck with "75-100 Euro for one hour". All refused.

If somebody needs help with accommodation, or such a thing, I can asist (on this board, not using the PM).[/QUOTE]I am planning to visit Sofia because I'm told dental treatment and price is so good. Can you find me a hostel or a single rom for about 7 weeks. I am economy tourist.

Hello to everybody,

I need to define which is the best city for short stay and some escort fun only. No clubs, no massage, no intentions or hope to get girls around for free.

Only nice escort to hotel.

What about Sofia?

Suggestion for hotel with card-free elevators?

[QUOTE=Pimpa; 1463202]In the ads it is written either french with condom (frenska s kondom) or french without condom (frenska bes condom). Of course this means oral, nothing else.

Standard sex means standard sex in contrast to threesome, anal, bdsm, fetish etc.[/QUOTE]As the title says it Thanks. For clarification.