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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2016316]Also young and slim. [/QUOTE]Slim for a soapy? I like my soapy chicks to have a little meat on their bones. Feels better when they slide up and down. I don't like the feel of a skeleton sliding up and down my body.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2015869]Doubtful. I am somewhat friends with the owner of the bar that girl works in. I spend a lot of money in that bar and so do my friends when we are there together. When Spanky's had their anniversary party, the owner of the bar this particular girl worked in invited me to hang out with him (just the two of us) at spankys that night and paid for all of my drinks that night. When I walk in the door, I am always immediately greeted by the mamasans who know me by name and the owner comes over to say Hello,.

Not only will I still be able to use that bar again, my bet is I can even take that same girl again if I want and she will be happy to go with me. I had taken her twice previous to her outburst and shagged her just as long one of the other two times. (when I say "shag" I don't mean vaginal penetration only, I mean engaging in some kind of sexual contact including kissing, BJ, etc.) We had only been actually fucking with vaginal penetration a short time when she called it quits. I never treat these girls "badly". Sometimes I cum in 5 seconds, sometimes in 2 hours. If the girl agrees to 2500, I will give her that 1 minute after she makes me cum, but not before. And I don't mind if she's out of my room directly after that. But I do expect her to make me cum. And I am not one of those dudes who cannot cum during a session, I always do cum eventually (unless the girl walks out like this one time).

I am guessing she had plans to meet her friends for karaoke or something that night at 4 am (most likely her Thai boyfriend) and didn't want to hang around any longer.

Personally, I think goatscrot's comments are more accurate than yours in this instance. In my opinion, I was doing myself and my fellow mongers a favor by standing up to her. The prices are out of hand, and service many times lacking because of too many dudes giving these girls whatever they want. If she had told me she needed to be out of there by 4 am while we were still in the bar, I would have had no problem with it. I gave her the option to finish the job for 2500 or leave for 1000 (because I preferred she stay and make me cum). Had I thrown 2000, of course she would leave. The fact she left for just 1000 tells me she had other plans that she really wanted to get to immediately. That was her choice.

I have heard of girls asking for money up front with some guys in Indonesia or Thailand, but it has never happened to me. I have been in asia for 20 years now and have a rep that I treat the girls well and pay fairly. You are right that the girls gossip, but I already have plenty of good will.

If the same situation happened again, I would handle it exactly the same.[/QUOTE]I might not have handled the situation the same as you did but lately I am very much in agreement with your general tone about not being so awfully worried about what the girls think of us, gossip about us and all that crap. Hell, I have had (previously unknown) husbands of bargirls tight with the THAI owners and entire staff go on a jealous rampage, publicly threaten my life and run off with the girl's baby son, spreading the word that I broke up their happy family and god knows whatever else, yet I am still able to stroll into that bar and walk out with any damn girl I please. I'm not sure I have heard of a more dramatic reason to have a "hands off, could be trouble" sign hanging around a customer's neck. LOL. Yet those girls are every bit as happy to be chosen by me, do the deed with a smile and earn my money as if I had been recommended by the Good Housekeeping Award of Approval Panel.

It is becoming increasingly clear that we mongers, particularly those of us who frequent these message boards, are entirely too worried about not offending the girls, being good boys and even better customers, not asking too much of them, making sure we don't short them by so much as a baht unless they've done something truly horrific. Meanwhile, the vast majority of the girls demonstrate almost no interest at all in learning to be better at their job, improving their skills, winning good repeat customers, making more money that way. I just don't think they are anywhere near as sensitive to or concerned about all the stuff some of us seem to be hand-wringing worried about all the time.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2016345]Slim for a soapy? I like my soapy chicks to have a little meat on their bones. Feels better when they slide up and down. I don't like the feel of a skeleton sliding up and down my body.[/QUOTE]Sliding up and down? You are talking about body slide service (not clear)? Which does not exist anymore in the vast majority of soapies, or bath / Jacuzzi play. You maybe more likely to be able to get the girl to slide up and down in an Oily or Nuru shop, these days.

In Oilies, I often ask for the Nuru gel massage if available, since I don't particularly go for real massage. Some of these Oilies, also have a bath or Jacuzzi.

As I wrote in another post, the most definitive distinction between a Soapy and an Oily, is really the ability to spend inordinately long periods of time eyeing the line up of seated girls in a "Soapy" till eventually you are ready to choose a girl, or more than one girl when a group of guys are attending together. Often there are tables to sit at and at least drinks are served, possibly food as well.
La Belle, Nataree, Amsterdam, Chao Praya 2, Nancy, Colonze, etc. were great examples of this. Annies was very much not like a Soapy, despite having a fishbowl, and a bath. Girls did not stay seated in the fishbowl, and customers have limited time to select.

I know plenty of Oilies where I can go have a soapy bath and Nuru gel body slide with the girl if desired. However they have no fishbowl for unlimited selection time.

Getting back to your point (maybe):
However in most soapies that did have a body slide section, in the old days (since so few nowadays), the girls in the body slide section tended to have bigger tits (natural) and ass than average. Was generally considered that slim girls were not so suited to bodyslide. I personally found some quite light weight girls were suitable for body slide, as long as were not excessively boney and having tits and a nice soft ass was definitely as asset. Many years back, I once collected a GF from the bodyslide section who only weighed 40 Kg, LOL, she had very nice A to B cups only. The key to a really great bodyslide for me, was having the girl go through the movements relatively slowly (sexy for me). Bodyslide sections tended not to have silicones (or I never selected any silicones).

In the modern day, if offered a massage, I love to ask for no hands massage. Have the girls apply slippery gel and use tits or ass to do the massaging sliding around. Normal for me in Oilies. I love being massaged by nice soft tits, where the girl has that asset. "New Massage" was one shop where I took soapy bath and gel massage with a girl with quite good sized natural tits. Have also had it in Can Cam massage, Yoremichi, Geisha, Dream Heaven, Dr. BJ Nuru, and others. The big distinction from a "Soapy" was the lack of fishbowl to sit for long time perusing the girls. I even used to get Nuru Gel slide from June at Bongkot when she was there. Definitely a slim girl in this case and tits not big.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2016396]Sliding up and down? You are talking about body slide service (not clear)? Which does not exist anymore in the vast majority of soapies, or bath / Jacuzzi play.[/QUOTE]No bodyslides in a BKK soapie? All the main Pattaya soapies do bodyslides on the air mattress, unless it has changed recently.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2016400]No bodyslides in a BKK soapie? All the main Pattaya soapies do bodyslides on the air mattress, unless it has changed recently.[/QUOTE]The vast majority of BKK Soapies do not have body slide any more. Even got eliminated at Emannuelle. Maybe was not that popular with the Thai customers. Maybe only half a dozen still have body slide on an airbed out of 50 shops, yet quite a few Oilies have it (with no Thai customers).

So it's maybe 10 yrs since I was last here in BKK. After RTFF and a few PMs I felt ready to go. To get the shagathon off to a flier, I booked straight from BP. Opting for a mature threeaome, the pics and words seemed right up my alley. Annabelle and Beaw arrived at my hotel pretty discretely and bang on time (a first? Fantastic naturals but overall probably seen better days. Relaxing over a few beers, the bags of toys came out and on came the lingerie. DATY with Annabelle was hot. She really gets into the role and was soaking wet, with a massive cum. Sorry neighbours. Beaw wanted toys and was soon writhing to Annabelle's attention. Lots of rolling around later, few pops, nice rub down and more fun. Fucking sexy to behold. 2.5 hrs, 14 k well spent. Repeat? Probably not. Looks: 7. Attitude: 9.

Wandered into Stumbles. Some hotties and pretty relaxed chatting for a few drinks. One killer bod wanted 5 k BF. Nah. Not a newbie, luv. Sorry. Managed Rumours and Hideaway till late, but disappointing talent. Big Dog great for people watching and there was a couple of mature funsters that may warrant my dollars tonight. More details to follow.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2016414]The vast majority of BKK Soapies do not have body slide any more. [/QUOTE]I haven't done a soapy in years. But why do a soapy at all if no body slide? That was the one and only thing unique about it.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;2014782]Also, during the "past president's administration" Canada introduced a rule that required airlines to provide an extra seat free of charge to those who weighed more than a certain weight. Are you going to blame Obama for that as well?[/QUOTE]Don't know about that one, but he has done tremendous damage to my pocket book (and many others I know) and my personal security and as a result my personal comfort.

[QUOTE=Breadman;2014732]How is it that Asian women can pump out 3 kids and look just like she did at 18 whereas other nationalities become chubby bordering on obese?[/QUOTE]Please, no need to be PC. Just say obese. It is IMHO diet and culture. Some would also say lack of self respect, image, or social pressure. I was shocked when I was first classified as obese. OMG.

[QUOTE=RunMann;2014730]I missed that story but airlines do have policies about overweight passengers. Not sure they care about PC more than profits since they will charge wherever they can make a buck. They are making these seats smaller now but nothing worst than being caught next to the fat guy like Steve Martin did on Planes, Trains and Automobiles.

[URL]http://www.independenttraveler.com/travel-tips/none/airline-obesity-policies[/URL][/QUOTE]Know some guys / gals who only travel first / business because of their size. The standing room only seats are supposedly coming soon. There is a push to ban US welfare food stamps from being used to buy some junk food. NYC wants to ban jumbo soda. Not sure how far that is going to go. Was just looking around a hotel lobby and noticing the number of large business people. 70% were obese. Those that were not were probably Indian / foreign B1 visa holders! LOL!!

IMHO, real problem. Was in a Democratic state where 70% of births last year were through social security. Met many people who were paying 20 K for health insurance. Demographics.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2017309]I haven't done a soapy in years. But why do a soapy at all if no body slide? That was the one and only thing unique about it.[/QUOTE]So true. I regret now that I only ever did it once way back in the day and it was epic. It was just before the epidemic of condoms and when she was ready she slid me inside so nicely. Either pre-lubed or aroused, she was ready to go.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2017309]I haven't done a soapy in years. But why do a soapy at all if no body slide? That was the one and only thing unique about it.[/QUOTE]Actually several reasons my Soapy attendance dropped right off:

1. Lack of a body slide at many venues was just one.

2. Dominance of artificial surgery looks especially bad nose jobs. Girls that used to be pretty, wrecking themselves with completely unnecessary nose jobs.

3. So many dick scared girls used to fucking Thai men.

4. Effort to travel to the venue for clubs not near the MRT.

5. Other political reasons like girls too closely managed by agents in some venues. Yes I know bargirls have pimps/BFs too.

[QUOTE=BushRusher;2003890]Shemp,

FYI report from AC thread. Just an example of how the major non-US airlines take care of their customers. Service is better and staff are prettier.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Shemp;2000747]100% sure. I'm booked thru United using FF miles. OZ 211 from SFO to ICN, then OZ 741 from ICN to BKK.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=BushRusher;2003890]Shemp,

FYI report from AC thread. Just an example of how the major non-US airlines take care of their customers. Service is better and staff are prettier.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=BushRusher;2002008]With US domestic on UA you are pretty much screwed and need to really push. On international, in or out bound you are not much better. Many airports do not have shower facility. I can tell you that Business does not get any better treatment.

Knock on wood, CX has always taken care of me. Had been diverted a several times because of weather and everyone got put up. They just loaded the same plane and crew the next day. The higher up the food chain you are with them, the better the service. Had good resolutions with BA and LH in and outbound. I don't know your specific situation, but I would much rather have flight delay problems in Asia. I usually get put up for free. 3 months ago, I was getting put up by UA because of a mechanical problem and I heard the supervisor tell the staff to stop issuing vouchers. Not sure what happened to the sods behind me traveling on their own dime.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Threadbare;2003870]Earlier this month I had a few days in AC, which I have been doing about this time of year for a few years now. I flew with Qatar Airways, in order to fly right into Clark, unfortunately it all went wrong in Doha when I missed the connection due to late arrival. Its the first time I tried that flight, and coming from a 50 minute delayed departure at London (not uncommon these days), the transfer time of 45 minutes was obviously a problem. Anyway Qatar airways looked after the 13 of us pretty well, and offered choice of the same flight following day, or Manila and bus transfer 7 hours later same day. So we took that, and finally arrived at Clark 12 hours late. I had cancelled my airport pick up to Queens Hotel, but was able to get a drop off, as the "bus transfer" from Manila turned into a fleet of 7 seater taxis with 3 - 4 in each.![/QUOTE]Semp, if you had any doubts on how one might be treated on United, take a look.

[URL]http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-39562288[/URL]

Strikers on Suk Soi 4 (Nana Hotel parking lot) is for sale for 20 million baht: [URL]http://www.asianbusinessbrokers.com/thailand/property/large-and-long-established-profitable-sports-bar-in-soi-nana/[/URL].

SL.

[QUOTE=BushRusher;2021246]Semp, if you had any doubts on how one might be treated on United, take a look.

[URL]http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-39562288[/URL][/QUOTE]OMG But this ad is great [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAR3B5A4C_Y[/URL].

[QUOTE=Sunlover2;2021404]Strikers on Suk Soi 4 (Nana Hotel parking lot) is for sale for 20 million baht: [URL]http://www.asianbusinessbrokers.com/thailand/property/large-and-long-established-profitable-sports-bar-in-soi-nana/[/URL].

SL.[/QUOTE]Is this at the back of the Nana Parking lot? I hardly even knew anything was there till saw lights there recently.