Thai Women - Opinions & Advice

[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]This is shear rubbish. I've had far more adventuresome sex with non-P4P, reasonably educated MidSo girls, than I have ever had with any P4P. Regardless of their chosen calling, most P4P girls are Isaan country bumpkins, coming from a fairly narrow-minded, conservative, uneducated background, where their knowledge of sex going in is extremely limited. In contrast, I've met few MidSo girls who didn't have it completely together when it came to sex and who are by nature far more open when it comes to trying different things.[/QUOTE]Trying many different things isn't really something I'd put at the top of my list when it cums to what I want in sexual encounters, but in my experience P4P gals in LOS have been up to anything I've been interested in.

So it seems that our tastes and experiences just differ, and or you are into some quite weird stuff! What is it you allege you wanted to try that P4P TGs were not willing to do. LOL.

Of course your personal experiences on which you base conclusions about entire classes of millions of TGs are so limited as to make your opinions of no statistical value.

Come up with 1000 test subjects all saying the same thing and you might have something. But as it stands there is no reason to think that another random sampling of these groups of TGs by another guy couldn't easily reach the exact opposite conclusion from you.

Moreover there is the question of having a contempt for and prejudice against P4P TGs which could disable one's ability to be objective about such experiences. Such attitudes could also serve as causes in making the P4P experience less enjoyable {or adventuresome} than it might have otherwise been.

Consequently any conclusions this person came to from such encounters are unreliable. They speak less about TGs in general and more about the person himself.

I'm going to have to side with Pink Pearl on this one. I've had only a few girlfriends in Thailand, and of course they have been middle class and university educated, but the sex with them has always been so-so. Certainly far less good than with comparable middle class girls in the US.

By contrast, while I've certainly had my share of starfish, a large percentage of prostitutes in Thailand provide really excellent sex. I'd say around 10-20%. Usually this correlates to their being three holers and a little older - say over 25 - but sometimes even the 2-holers or younger hookers provide good sex. I think perhaps the reason OTH and some others do not find the really good service in P4P is because they tend to eschew freelancers and lower-end girls, particularly those in the 25-45 age range.

[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]...most P4P girls are Isaan country bumpkins...In contrast, I've met few MidSo girls who didn't have it completely together...[/QUOTE] OTH: You paint the world of Thai women with a very large brush with one color of paint. You are one man with one set of experiences. It sounds like you've been very lucky due to your position and role in the Thai world, (and your charming personality, of course!).

However, I would not discount women from Isaan uniformly. There are many sexy, loving women from this part of Thailand. Some of us actually prefer "country bumpkins." Besides they look great in high heels and [I]Daisy Dukes![/i]

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daisy_Dukes[/url]

[QUOTE=Opebo]I'm going to have to side with Pink Pearl on this one. I've had only a few girlfriends in Thailand, and of course they have been middle class and university educated, but the sex with them has always been so-so. Certainly far less good than with comparable middle class girls in the US.

By contrast, while I've certainly had my share of starfish, a large percentage of prostitutes in Thailand provide really excellent sex. I'd say around 10-20%. Usually this correlates to their being three holers and a little older - say over 25 - but sometimes even the 2-holers or younger hookers provide good sex. I think perhaps the reason OTH and some others do not find the really good service in P4P is because they tend to eschew freelancers and lower-end girls, particularly those in the 25-45 age range.[/QUOTE]


I'd venture a guess and say I've had far more experience with MidSo, educated girls, than you have had, if for no other reason than I've been here longer. While I've certainly had my share of duds among the many Mid and HiSo girls I've shagged, there have been considerably more who have been truly amazing.

One memorable girl was a former student who arrived one day with a friend, also a former student of mine, who before they screwed my brains out, put on a show in which the two of them did each other, using dildos. There's nothing to heighten things than seeing two former prim and proper students, out of their uniforms, naked and sweaty, ramming dildos into each other.

[QUOTE=Fon Tok]OTH: You paint the world of Thai women with a very large brush with one color of paint. You are one man with one set of experiences. It sounds like you've been very lucky due to your position and role in the Thai world, (and your charming personality, of course!).

However, I would not discount women from Isaan uniformly. There are many sexy, loving women from this part of Thailand. Some of us actually prefer "country bumpkins." Besides they look great in high heels and [I]Daisy Dukes![/i]

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daisy_Dukes[/url][/QUOTE]

A/ In fact, I have quite an eclectic range of experiences here with TGs from every walk of life.

B/ My GF comes from Isaan, is not a country bumpkin and therefore, I don't think that every Isaan women is one.

But, a lot of Isaan girls are ignorant, uneducated country bumpkins who know very little about anything. It's just a fact. The place is predominantly made up of small villages, full of people who've never been anywhere, have little education and only know their small little worlds. They watch Thai TV and if they read at all, only read Thai newspapers and crappy magazines, and as a result have a narrow-minded, extremely Thai-centric, xenophobic point of view.

Yes they look sexy in shorts and heels and can be lovely and sweet. But, that doesn't alter the fact that they aren't very interesting beyond the obvious reasons.

[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]One memorable girl was a former student who arrived one day with a friend, also a former student of mine, who before they screwed my brains out, put on a show in which the two of them did each other, using dildos. There's nothing to heighten things than seeing two former prim and proper students, out of their uniforms, naked and sweaty, ramming dildos into each other.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I've never seen anything like that. By 'adventurous' sex on the part of middle class girls I was just thinking that they would give a decent BJ and try anal. Most won't even do that.

[QUOTE=Opebo]I'm going to have to side with Pink Pearl on this one. I've had only a few girlfriends in Thailand, and of course they have been middle class and university educated, but the sex with them has always been so-so. Certainly far less good than with comparable middle class girls in the US.

By contrast, while I've certainly had my share of starfish, a large percentage of prostitutes in Thailand provide really excellent sex. I'd say around 10-20%. Usually this correlates to their being three holers and a little older - say over 25 - but sometimes even the 2-holers or younger hookers provide good sex. I think perhaps the reason OTH and some others do not find the really good service in P4P is because they tend to eschew freelancers and lower-end girls, particularly those in the 25-45 age range.[/QUOTE]Hmm, you may need to get out more:

Best sex ever in Thailand: University Professor Chiang Mai University 32 yrs old (female, duh)

Also, an extended affair with a devastatingly beautiful and incredibly imaginative sex crazed post grad MBA student, one session yielding 12 orgasms in one day at Krisada Doi Resort, Chiang Mai. She would wear lingerie and nylons, born from her own fantasy library bank of ideas, and purchased on her own dime. On the surface, she was just a far above average looking but nicely mannered and efficient university student. Under the hood she was a thousand horsepower internally combusted sex fiend, with nothing holding her back.

Have been involved in several other local Northern Thailand dalliances and erotic endeavors as well, and have found other middle class Thai women (OK, especially from Chiang Mai) to be very highly sexed, and super adventurous in bed, (or in the hall, in the kitchen, in the car, in the pool, in the bathroom of the pub, in the snake filled rain forest, on the lakefront at night, etc.)

P4P speaks of experiences and monetarily motivated payoffs. Hormones speak the truth.

[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]One memorable girl was a former student who arrived one day with a friend, also a former student of mine, who before they screwed my brains out, put on a show in which the two of them did each other, using dildos. There's nothing to heighten things than seeing two former prim and proper students, out of their uniforms, naked and sweaty, ramming dildos into each other.[/QUOTE]
C'mon OTH, you big tease. You have us all drooling. I know you have some pics somewhere buried in the archives. cough 'em up wud ya.

[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]This is shear rubbish. I've had far more adventuresome sex with non-P4P, reasonably educated MidSo girls, than I have ever had with any P4P. Regardless of their chosen calling, most P4P girls are Isaan country bumpkins, coming from a fairly narrow-minded, conservative, uneducated background, where their knowledge of sex going in is extremely limited. In contrast, I've met few MidSo girls who didn't have it completely together when it came to sex and who are by nature far more open when it comes to trying different things.[/QUOTE]
Agree. Non-p4p MidSo are better than p4p, but I've found the best to be the Non-p4p HiSo types.

[QUOTE=Barko] {snip} On the surface, she was just a far above average looking but nicely mannered and efficient university student. Under the hood she was a thousand horsepower internally combusted sex fiend, with nothing holding her back.

{snip} have found other middle class Thai women (OK, especially from Chiang Mai) to be very highly sexed, and super adventurous in bed, (or in the hall, in the kitchen, in the car, in the pool, in the bathroom of the pub, in the snake filled rain forest, on the lakefront at night, etc.)

P4P speaks of experiences and monetarily motivated payoffs. Hormones speak the truth.[/QUOTE]

Having sex with snakes isn't really my thing, but to each their own I guess.
I'm sure you & OTH will have an "adventurous" time out there!

IMO the monetary aspect is irrelevant when it cums to super horny hotties, and they are not difficult to find in the BKK P4P scene. Maybe you just need to get out more. Or move to BKK.

Opebo's estimates concur with my experiences, that is 10-20% of P4P are highly sexed, and the best cum in the 25-32 year old range.

As I've pointed out previously to OTH:

Trying many different things isn't really something I'd put at the top of my list when it cums to what I want in sexual encounters, but in my experience P4P gals in LOS have been up to anything I've been interested in. In fact, by virtue of their sexual lessons from many men from every corner of the earth, they've introduced me to a few new things.

So it seems that our tastes and experiences just differ, and or you are into some quite weird stuff! What is it you allege you wanted to try that P4P TGs were not willing to do. LOL.

Of course your personal experiences on which you base conclusions about entire classes of millions of TGs are so limited as to make your opinions of no statistical value.

Come up with 1000 test subjects all saying the same thing and you might have something. But as it stands there is no reason to think that another random sampling of these groups of TGs by another guy couldn't easily reach the exact opposite conclusion from you.

Moreover there is the question of having a contempt for and prejudice against P4P TGs which could disable one's ability to be objective about such experiences. Such attitudes could also serve as causes in making the P4P experience less enjoyable {or adventuresome} than it might have otherwise been.

Consequently any conclusions this person came to from such encounters are unreliable. They speak less about TGs in general and more about the person himself.

[QUOTE=Amjeck]Agree. Non-p4p MidSo are better than p4p, but I've found the best to be the Non-p4p HiSo types.[/QUOTE]

Getting back to the original question of 'who makes the best GFs', as posed to Pink Pearl, which he answered reasonably, albeit somewhat inaccurately IMO...

If one looks at the overall picture: excellent and adventuresome sex, self-sufficiency (i.e. doesn't bleed you dry for money and who actually might spend money on you) and a reasonably intelligent, educated and interesting companion out of bed, as well, a MidSo TG is still the best.

HiSo girls are sometimes high maintenance and largely inaccessible beyond the sex. if you're looking for a GF, HiSo girls are usually out of reach because a Farang would not be acceptable either to her family, her friends or to the society to which she belongs, even if he has money and comes from a good family. Thai high society people don't equate a good family in the west with one here. It's part and parcel of their arrogant, xenophobic mind-set.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl]Having sex with snakes isn't really my thing, but to each their own I guess.

I'm sure you & OTH will have an "adventurous" time out there!

IMO the monetary aspect is irrelevant when it cums to super horny hotties, and they are not difficult to find in the BKK P4P scene. Maybe you just need to get out more. Or move to BKK.

Opebo's estimates concur with my experiences, that is 10-20% of P4P are highly sexed, and the best cum in the 25-32 year old range.

As I've pointed out previously:

Trying many different things isn't really something I'd put at the top of my list when it cums to what I want in sexual encounters, but in my experience P4P gals in LOS have been up to anything I've been interested in. In fact, by virtue of their sexual lessons from many men from every corner of the earth, they've introduced me to a few new things.

So it seems that our tastes and experiences just differ, and or you are into some quite weird stuff! What is it you allege you wanted to try that P4P TGs were not willing to do. LOL.

Of course your personal experiences on which you base conclusions about entire classes of millions of TGs are so limited as to make your opinions of no statistical value.

Come up with 1000 test subjects all saying the same thing and you might have something. But as it stands there is no reason to think that another random sampling of these groups of TGs by another guy couldn't easily reach the exact opposite conclusion from you.

Moreover there is the question of having a contempt for and prejudice against P4P TGs which could disable one's ability to be objective about such experiences. Such attitudes could also serve as causes in making the P4P experience less enjoyable {or adventuresome} than it might have otherwise been.

Consequently any conclusions this person came to from such encounters are unreliable. They speak less about TGs in general and more about the person himself.[/QUOTE]Try living here in Thailand since 1984. Then speak.

I am referring to experiences with middle-road Chiang Mai Thai girls, once they get a taste of the real 'set leao' they become relentless, they seek it, and they crave it, they really do. Daily, nightly, everywhere and anywhere. It isn't a job.

Again, live here. You seem to want to negate reality and assume P4P girls to be the be-all end-all for the best sex here in Thailand? Hmm. OK, supposition: Suppose you live in a normal Thai upper middle class neighborhood, you make relationships with moderately affluent 'normal' Thai girls with good jobs and reasonable paychecks. You settle in for the long haul, having girls of interest, & their friends, over frequently, and developing an A rep. (Yeah, wow, it is do-able, yes it is, but dude, you just can't be a heavily tattooed wife beater wearing skinhead to pull this off) You take them out to a dinner and a movie, just like a normal guy. You invest a significant amount of time based in the Kingdom, learning the language, making friends, etc. OK? Do it. THEN do the math. Then speak up for what you KNOW, not what you think. (Tip: the key word in this paragraph is 'normal')

So what are we talking about here: Anal? NP. Multiple orgasms? NP. Dress up time? NP. Toys? NP. Three-four ways? NP. Ergo, it's all a matter of trust and desire, no matter who is involved, correct? Not the idea of 'service best, service to survive' equals money.

Now, today, for me, straight up & honest, at this time in life, I pretty much can only do P4P at this point. No contempt for P4P girls at all, just ask them! A real term relationship with any woman, anywhere, is not a reasonable choice. I'm just hardly ever home here in Phuket anymore. And, for hardcore knock out all the stops, get down & dirty, asphalt melting real 'sex', right now, today, 2009, P4P or not, it's tuff to top a PRC Chinese girl for sheer audacity and mind altering craziness (Hell, a lot of them have been masturbating daily since they were 12. Horny freakin little shits, yes they are. Hormones my man, hormones! ) Most Isaan girls, tattoos & all, just don't get it. Sorry.

I stand hardfast, (or harder and faster, whatever makes her cum first.).

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[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]The LoSo {snip} their families are quite often disfunctional and a load of trouble.[/QUOTE]If Thai TV is reflective of life in Thailand, it seems that the high and middle class families have plenty of their own problems.

Further, if one has a TGF, as distinct from a wife, there is no necessity for the Farang BF to be living together with her or meet her family. Ever.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl]If Thai TV is reflective of life in Thailand, it seems that the high and middle class families have plenty of their own problems.

Further, if one has a TGF, as distinct from a wife, there is no necessity for the Farang BF to be living together with her or meet her family. Ever.[/QUOTE]Thai TV?

Thai TV is written and directed by a bunch of old socially impaired gay guys that are all swhacked out on some sort of locally manufactured meth.

Pretty far off of reality.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl]If Thai TV is reflective of life in Thailand, it seems that the high and middle class families have plenty of their own problems.[/QUOTE]

Thai TV is largely a cartoon, filled with silliness and hardly reflective of real life in this country.


[QUOTE=PinkPearl]Further, if one has a TGF, as distinct from a wife, there is no necessity for the Farang BF to be living together with her or meet her family. Ever.[/QUOTE]


To make a statement like this shows just how little you know about Thai culture.

If you are involved in anyway with a TG, it will most definitely include her family. If you date a TG, you date her family in a sense, as well, to a lesser or greater degree, depending on her background.

In particular, if you date an Isaan girl, especially one from the countryside with a needy family, you can be damn sure that you will not only meet them, but, will become more involved with them, than you care to. You will also encounter loads of relatively obscure relatives and hangers-on, who will crawl out of the woodwork to meet the Farang and hopefully get in on the action.

The main reason to never date a lower class girl, (P4P or not), especially from Isaan is that you can bet that her family will turn out to be a bunch of leeches who's prime motivation will be to suck you dry.