[quote=syzygies; 1501974]older guys are bound to be more experienced and more skilled at daty and other methods of getting the girl off (i'm sure dan3737 will talk about his finger stimulation too).
overall i think bar girls are more willing to enjoy than mp girls, since bar girls are not usually expecting to have several other customers following the session. mp girls will sometimes be explicitly honest and say "please stop the daty now, i don't want to cum, as will be too lazy to keep working and its still early in the day". very few perhaps, will say they are keeping it for the bf, even if this maybe the case for a percentage.[/quote]my technique is to cover all of the lady's pussy with the flat of my hand and massage everything she has in there. because this way i end up massaging her clitoris with her own pussy-lips much of the time. it's similar to what happens when an uncircumcised guy uses his foreskin to mastrubate himself.
the lady is much less sensitive to your touch, when you do her pussy this way. which allows you to do a lot more with her pussy. you can massage her pussy either nice-and-slow, or hard-and-fast, from side-to-side, or up-and-down along her slit, or in a circular motion.
i usually start out nice and slow in a circular motion to get her pussy juices flowing. once i feel my hand get wet, then i increase my speed, while paying attention to her body language so that i don't overdo it. i use all three motions, changing back and forth between circular, side-to-side, and up-and-down along her slit. and i get my speed up to the point where she is sort of on the virge of losing control but not quite. this way it doesn't take long for her either to orgasm or to pull me on top of her and get me to ride her. it helps a lot if you keep close body-to-body contact with her, while you are massaging her pussy. because this way you can feel how well your pussy massage is going from the way she tenses up or relaxes her body against yours. such body-to-body feedback from the lady allows you to adjust your pussy massage on her in just the right way to make to it really enjoyable for her.
but i have to disagree with you about massage ladies enjoying their sex less with guys than bar ladies do. by avoiding orgasm, massage ladies actually enjoy it more. it's like a guy can stay in the mood for sex and prolong his pleasure for hours at a time, while watching porn, by avoiding orgasm. it's the same thing for the massage ladies, except they avoid orgasm in real sex situation with real guys. this is what enables them to stay in the mood for sex all day long and be happy to do it with more than one guy.
prolonging your sexual pleasure by avoiding orgasm for a long time actually makes you hypersexual. because your body fills with sex hormones from prolonged sexual stimulation, instead of just having a brief hormonal surge and then having these hormones go down after orgasm. perhaps this is why some of the massage ladies are so good at giving you the pse experience. their bodies are so full of sex-hormones, as a result of getting lots of sexual stimulation without orgasm, that they are sincere in their porn-star behavior with you. they aren't just acting to make you feel good. they really are this way, because both men and women normally become hypersexual when they get lots of sexual stimulation while holding back their orgasm for a long time.
if you make the massage lady orgasm, then you will destroy her hypersexual mood, and then she might not be able to perform like a porn star either with you or with other guys for the rest the of that day. massage ladies know this from their experience, and that's why they ask you not to make them orgasm. they are like the guy who wants to keep masturbating for hours at a time without orgasm, while watching his porn movies.
it took me a long time to understand why many massage ladies try to avoid orgasm. for a long time i was trying to make massage ladies orgasm, and i was pretty good at getting them wet and excited. but these wet and excited ladies would make me get on top of them and give them a good pussy ride, instead of letting me bring them all the way to orgasm. these ladies never told me not to make them orgasm. they just told me in no uncertain terms that they wanted to fuck. and they looked pretty sincere, when they said that. because their faces were flushed with sexual excitement, they were breating heavily, and their pussies were wet. fuck i did every time, just like the lady said. there is no way you can say 'no', when the pretty lady wants you to plow, and you can see that she really means it.
this is actually a good way to make the pretty lady invite you for a second ride with her, when she isn't in the habit of doing this with guys. all you need to do is keep massaging her pussy, until she gets close to orgasm. more often than not, she will invite you inside for another ride just to avoid having a clitoral orgasm with you. and she would be in the mood for it too, because of all that exciting pussy massage she just got from you. some inexperienced ladies might not know enough to invite you for another ride. but if you suggest it to them, then they would probably agree. because this would be a way for them to satisfy you, without destroying their hypersexual mood that comes from delalying their orgasm for a long time.
