Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[quote=tconor;1503354]it's not the moaning is their cum / [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] or whatever get you warm and wet from them.[/quote]that is true of some women.

some women produce a great deal of vaginal fluid when they have an orgasm; and there are the women (squirters) who spew out large quantities of clear, watery fluid, especially from having their g-spot stimulated. however, some women produce little additional vaginal secretions when they have an orgasm. involuntary spasms, which of course can be faked, are also an indicator. the best way is to wire 'them up to a machine and make physiological recordings. that is what masters and johnson did.

i've had a number of non-pro partners who had to break off a long fuck because they had multiple orgasms and were exhausted. i could tell when they had each orgasm, but it was not from any additional production of fluids.

[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1503384]I've had a number of non-pro partners who had to break off a long fuck because they had multiple orgasms and were exhausted. I could tell when they had each orgasm, but it was not from any additional production of fluids.[/QUOTE]We have all detected a few fake ones I reckon. However I find a lot of Thai girls are more honest and some will say sorry that they don't want to cum. That is when they don't feel right about telling bullshit.

I think their is a broad range. Girls that cum very easily, girls that are sometimes, some that are rare, and some that find it very difficult or just don't want to. I have had GFs that would cum from DATY in well under 5 mins being extremely sensitive types. Others would like to receive DATY for 25 mins with a long gradual build up. One WG would give me freebies because she liked my ability to keep DATY going for a very long time. Normally she had great difficulty to get an orgasm. Took time. Why freebies? She wanted control and see me outside her workplace only after she finished work. Did not want to be lazy at work after her long DATY session. Also wanted me to stop fucking other girls or at least never see me with another girl.

Real orgasms are not usually announced like "I just came."

Then there is the WG girlfriend who protests."We are just working girls. Why would we ever enjoy with a customer?" Ha ha!

The most extremely honest working girls admit to orgasm on occasions when they allow it, but not with every customer. It's not illegal for a girl to enjoy sex. Girls are human and if the stimulation is right it can be difficult to avoid getting worked up. Most WGs that I like, admit to cumming with customers reasonably regularly or at least occasionally. I am generally not keen on the more professional types of girls. Some girls change over time, where they used to let themselves go and cum, but do not any more. Can be due to a BF or just getting to lazy after cums. I don't believe that these girls were ever faking it and then merely stopping to fake it. That is unlikely.

Did you ever see a video of a girl riding that power sex machine? Forget the name. It appears it was nearly impossible for girls not to orgasm from that level of stimulation.

Many guys believe they are paying so do not care if the girls gets any enjoyment or not. They often prefer to believe it's all fake and girls never really cum. Probably a self fulfilling belief in those cases.

You expect fakers to fake an orgasm every time rather than occasionally so I believe that girls who cum only sometimes are less likely to be faking it.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1503418]Did you ever see a video of a girl riding that power sex machine? Forget the name. It appears it was nearly impossible for girls not to orgasm from that level of stimulation.[/QUOTE]The machine is called a Symbian. Why should a woman settle for a single orgasm when she can hop on a Symbian and go from multi-orgasms to poly-orgasms? :D

Yes I have seen videos of women riding one, including one in which the woman was voluntarily strapped to a Symbian for about 30 minutes. It was an interesting demonstration of the human female sexual response. By the end of the video she must have been very dehydrated judging by the volume of liquid that repeatedly gushed from her vagina. The BDSM genre, not that I ever watch that sick, twisted, perverted stuff, is replete with demonstrations of how this devious invention can drive women wild. Of course the women who star in these videos are selected for their ability to squirt.

I don't think they're faking orgasms.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1503418]We have all detected a few fake ones I reckon. However I find a lot of Thai girls are more honest and some will say sorry that they don't want to cum. That is when they don't feel right about telling bullshit.[/QUOTE]I've been with Thai women who seemed embarrassed when they had a particularly intense orgasm. Never observed that with a North American, European or Latin woman. When I suggested we try for another one, they were adamant that it was impossible for them to have a second orgasm. When I described how some women love to reach the point where they start skimming (having many, many orgasms for a prolonged period of time with each orgasm separated by few seconds) they didn't know what I was talking about. After explaining it to them they looked at me like I was crazy.

Many Thai girls are really into good quality Vibes. (better than most men). My GF cums very easily and is no challenge at all, perhaps due to being not frequent enough. The biggest problem I have, is that girls that are too sensitive, usually lack stamina. They may get 3 to 10 orgasms in 30 mins and then be ready to quit exhausted already. For me. 30 mins is just a warm up and usually have not even got a shot yet. So I prefer girls that take significant time and stimulation to reach a cum, as they are generally happy to go much longer.

I think its fairly unusual for a girl to say that cannot have a 2nd orgasm, but sometimes they say the 2nd one will be more difficult. For others the 2nd one is much easier. A lot of girls are very happy with 2 though. My GF takes a lot more than 2 though. Its like she can't stop it until she is spent.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1503448]Many Thai girls are really into good quality Vibes. (better than most men). My GF cums very easily and is no challenge at all, perhaps due to being not frequent enough. The biggest problem I have, is that girls that are too sensitive, usually lack stamina. They may get 3 to 10 orgasms in 30 mins and then be ready to quit exhausted already. For me. 30 mins is just a warm up and usually have not even got a shot yet. So I prefer girls that take significant time and stimulation to reach a cum, as they are generally happy to go much longer.

I think its fairly unusual for a girl to say that cannot have a 2nd orgasm, but sometimes they say the 2nd one will be more difficult. For others the 2nd one is much easier. A lot of girls are very happy with 2 though. My GF takes a lot more than 2 though. Its like she can't stop it until she is spent.[/QUOTE]Then my experience is a good example of how misleading a small sample size can be.

Impossible may be a euphemism for "very difficult' and taking time. If the girl is happy with 1 and doesn't want you to try for the 2nd, she may exaggerate by claiming its impossible. However my experience is most Thai girls can get another one. Maybe be impractical for girls that took a very long time to get the first pop. I don't often get more than 1 pop myself as very slow to get there. Doesn't mean its impossible. An extremely skilled BBBJ will always win I reckon.

My most recent gf is the sensitive type. I always made sure she cums first and then she will come again during intercourse. After I DATY again she will refuse claiming that three is enough. However, if we have intercourse again, she will come. The only woman I've been with who is that consistent.

Does anyone know if Aviva (which closed this summer apparently) has relocated somewhere under another name?

I'm particularly interesting in former Aviva girl Miki!

Thanks for any leads!

I am new in Bangkok and of course on this thread so I would like to ask an advise to some experienced friends. I am sure this is a subject already treated in this thread but I could not find it.

I am planning to ask an MP lady to join me for a 3 days trip (business for me) to Dacca (no mongering there).

She told me that she has to pay 3000 baht daily to the shop and of course there should be something for her. How much should I give her, on top of course of plane tkt, food, hotel? I don't want to ruin the market!

Thanks

[QUOTE=Paul Kausch; 1503189]Dan,

Enjoyed reading your posts describing your techniques, and I took notes. Your premise that MP girls try to stay sexually aroused while not cumming makes sense, however some women are real nymphos. Scientist doing research on human sexuality have identified women who are capable of having countless orgasms (though the scientists do count them) over many hours from continuous sexual stimulation without tiring. I've been with a few MP girls over the years who had 2 or 3 orgasms during a session with me. At the end I would ask in a good-natured way if those were real orgasms. They would emphatically claim they had at least a couple orgasms with almost every client they saw, even on busy days, and they never got tired of cumming.

PK[/QUOTE]Women might be able to orgasm more than men, because unlike men, women don't need to make sperm for orgasmic ejaculations.

I've stayed with one Thai lady some time ago, and very handy with her pussy I certainly was every day. She orgasmed every time I massaged her pussy, because the longer she took to orgasm with me, the more I enjoyed my pussy massage with her. I really liked the feeling of her well-lubricated pussy lips and clit slipping and sliding all over my hand.

After a while she learned from her experience that one way or another she was going to have an orgasm with me anyway. So, she would just relax and let it come. Which made her orgasms a lot quicker and easier with me. But before I got to this point with her, I used to spend half an hour or more massaging her pussy with my hand in a variety of ways, before she would orgasm with me. I found that pressing my body against the lady from behind and massaging her pussy with my hand from the front enabled me to feel her reactions almost as though I was masturbating myself. I could feel when I was doing well with her and when I needed to make it faster, or apply a little more pressure, or massage her with a different motion to make it better for her. Her body became almost like an extension of my body.

I don't know if it would work the same way for other guys, but I found that by pressing my body against the lady from behind and massaging her pussy with my hand from the front, I would tune into the lady's feelings and reactions so well that I felt almost like she was a part of me and I was masturbating myself by masturbating her. And this feeling of one-ness with the lady was definitely very pleasant for me. It was as though her feelings and sensations were my feelings and sensations too.

This experience of one-ness with the lady might work the same way as when you drive a car and the car sort of becomes an extension of your body. Because you sort-of become constantly aware of the whole space your car occupies and how far away it is from other cars and objects. Inexperienced drivers don't feel like this with their car, and that's partly why it's so difficult for them to drive well. But after you get some driving experience, then this feeling of one-ness with the car becomes automatic.

One thing I haven't yet tried is put my cock inside the lady's ass, press my body tightly against hers from behind, and then massage her pussy to orgasm with my hand from the front. In theory, this should work even better in terms of you feeling one with the lady. Because your cock inside the lady's ass would give you even more intimate contact with her during the pussy massage.

But it probably isn't just about havng contact with the lady during her pussy massage. It's also a matter of being able to tune into the lady's feelings and sensations. Which might take some practice and experience, the way it takes practice and experience before you start feeling one with your car, when you drive it.

Perhaps it's possible to drive your lady's pussy with your hand, the way you drive a car and feel one with the lady, the way you feel one with the car. It just takes some driving experience and practice to get the hang of it.

[QUOTE=Santana69; 1503583]I am new in Bangkok and of course on this thread so I would like to ask an advise to some experienced friends. I am sure this is a subject already treated in this thread but I could not find it.

I am planning to ask an MP lady to join me for a 3 days trip (business for me) to Dacca. How much should I give her, on top of course of plane tkt, food, hotel? I don't want to ruin the market!

Thanks[/QUOTE]Hi Santana,

On numerous occasions I have had either MP ladies or others join me on international or domestics trips. If you are well acquainted with the lady, she can call in sick at the MP and you can pay her between B1000 to 2000 per day. If she has to pay B3000 to the MP and then you pay her another B2000, that is quite a steep price. Please note, the lady may not be too enthused about visiting Dhaka. They prefer Hongkong, Singapore, Tokyo, Seoul etc. Where it will be far more glitzy and you may be a sugar daddy for her shopping spree.

Z.

[QUOTE=SlipId7; 1503536]Does anyone know if Aviva (which closed this summer apparently) has relocated somewhere under another name?

I'm particularly interesting in former Aviva girl Miki!

Thanks for any leads![/QUOTE]The Aviva location is now Bamboo Massage with just a few ladies. Some of the Aviva girls are working in Tulip. If you visit Tulip, ask for Cherry and she can tell you where Miki went and what her new name is.

Z.

[QUOTE=Zenlove; 1503642]Hi Santana,

On numerous occasions I have had either MP ladies or others join me on international or domestics trips. If you are well acquainted with the lady, she can call in sick at the MP and you can pay her between B1000 to 2000 per day. If she has to pay B3000 to the MP and then you pay her another B2000, that is quite a steep price. Please note, the lady may not be too enthused about visiting Dhaka. They prefer Hongkong, Singapore, Tokyo, Seoul etc. Where it will be far more glitzy and you may be a sugar daddy for her shopping spree.

Z.[/QUOTE]Thanks Z,

I agree with what you say and that is why I don't want to take the lady in the cities you mentioned. Also in those cities it is not difficult to find MP or other frindly place, while in Dhacca.

Unfortunately it seems that in Snow White they have a very strict policy about absence fee. It seems they have to pay 3000 baht even when they say they are sick, they also told me that tomorrow being a national holiday the absence fee is Baht 5000. I heard the same version from different girls, maybe that is the story they tell to newcomers.

[QUOTE=Zenlove; 1503642]Hi Santana,

On numerous occasions I have had either MP ladies or others join me on international or domestics trips. If you are well acquainted with the lady, she can call in sick at the MP and you can pay her between B1000 to 2000 per day. If she has to pay B3000 to the MP and then you pay her another B2000, that is quite a steep price. Please note, the lady may not be too enthused about visiting Dhaka. They prefer Hongkong, Singapore, Tokyo, Seoul etc. Where it will be far more glitzy and you may be a sugar daddy for her shopping spree.

Z.[/QUOTE]Zenlove,

This maybe so, but 1K to 2K is not going to cut it for a girl that is used to making significant money. Some are making well over 100K per month although things are very quiet right now. Also you don't allow for that fact that not every girl is willing to cheat. Those that caught are fired from the job. Some do not want to risk it. Also some girls are completely honest and don't want to cheat. Many establishments are having very strict rules. In some shops, girls are required to "barfine" themselves if they don't show for any reason. That can get an extended sick leave absence but may be required to produce evidence of the sickness. Depends on the strictness of the shop.

So taking a top MP girl away can be cheap or can be expensive, it varies a lot. Obviously barfines for bargirls are a lot cheaper.

So offer a top Oily girl 2K per day to go on holiday. If she really likes you and wants the holiday, its possible. Otherwise she is not likely to be interested. Girls in bars that are struggling to get any customers right now may be very interested. Anything for a steady money supply.

In the end its about how much money she needs and also whether she is a cheat or not. There are also girls that are too shy to specify exactly how much they need, so its not always easy to figure out what is appropriate.