American Politics

[QUOTE=Villainy;2716159]What I said, is that the vaccine makes it far less likely that you will catch the original strain of CoVid.

If you don't get the virus, you can't transmit the virus. You can't transmit what you don't have.

Hey, I have an idea. Maybe Matt Taibbi can explain it to you.[/QUOTE]LOL. You do not know what the original strain of Covid was. The vaccine was not tested against the original strain you. There have been dozens of strains by now.

If a patient had a reaction to last year's flu shot given by a doctor, he would have his ass sued off, and the reason is there is no benefit. Last year's flu shot like the Covid vaccine is worthless or nearly worthless against the strains present in society. So you are giving something with no benefit and all risk. The only reason this shit was allowed was because of the vaccine's immunity. You watch. The vaccine companies are going to pull or limit the vaccines once their legal immunity from being sued is pulled. And if they allow the vaccine to be given, their tune on the body's own natural immunity is going to completely change. Vaccinating those people will be totally off limits.

You see this is something you dumb Dems morons never got. Vaccinating those who were previously sick with Covid was all risk and no benefit.

Why do you think Pfizer wanted to hide adverse results from the vaccine for 75 years?

It amazes me you dumb Dems STILL cannot see what was medical and what was political.

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/border/2022/07/03/graphic-video-migrant-running-from-police-killed-by-passing-vehicle-on-texas-highway-near-border/[/URL]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2716039]Yeah, "Haha!" They said the same thing about repealing Roe v Wade. In fact, some of the Repubs on the SCOTUS who voted to reject the idea of Right to Privacy and thereby repealed Roe v Wade were some of the people leading the laughs about that considering how respectful they pretended to be about now almost 50 years of legal precedent supporting it.

[B]Biden, other critics fear Thomass extreme position on contraception[/B]

[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/24/contraception-supreme-court-clarence-thomas-griswold/[/URL]

[B]Some States Already Are Targeting Birth Control[/B]

[URL]https://www.pewtrusts.org/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2022/05/19/some-states-already-are-targeting-birth-control[/URL]

[B]after striking down roe, supreme court justice threatens to go after contraception, same-sex marriage, and bring back sodomy laws[/B]

[URL]https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/06/supreme-court-roe-v-wade-clarence-thomas-contraception-same-sex-marriage-sodomy[/URL]

[B]After Roe v. Wade ruling, Texas AG Ken Paxton say he would defend reinstating state's sodomy law[/B]

[URL]https://www.sacurrent.com/news/after-roe-v-wade-ruling-texas-ag-ken-paxton-say-he-would-defend-reinstating-states-sodomy-law-29249154[/URL]

[URL]https://www.aclu.org/other/update-status-sodomy-laws[/URL][/QUOTE][URL]https://www.newsmax.com/us/pope-francis-abortion-catholic-church/2022/07/04/id/1077254/[/URL]

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2716185]Aha! There it is. Nobody is outlawing contraception. We are simply saying that the taxpayer should not be on the hook for it. If sluts want to fuck around, they pay for their own contraception.

Of course most democrats consider that the same as banning it, because they owe their very existence to the government teat, be it gibsmedat welfare or useless make work govt jobs.[/QUOTE]Yeah. Again, that was an early step in the Repub March toward repealing Roe v Wade.

A lot of dangerously short memories here I see. Cognitive Impairment.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2716298][URL]https://www.newsmax.com/us/pope-francis-abortion-catholic-church/2022/07/04/id/1077254/[/URL][/QUOTE]Sure, if by "hiring a hit man" he means reducing the number of little unwanted boys his club's members can get their hands on to groom for "our special blessed secret" choir practice.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2716139]Jeez, cupcake, are you Elvis the MD in disguise?

Ventilators killed everyone who was put on them? Really? Did your brain ever think that only the very serious COVID cases were put on ventilators? No, you probably didn't. Why not say that chemo and radiation kills everybody who gets that treatment. Because, after all, everybody who has cancer eventually dies, right?

People who think like you are the reason why the US is in such bad shape. Everything is a conspiracy. All doctors, lawyers, journalists, environmentalists, etc. Have all ganged up on the Mango Mussolini and his brain-dead cultists. When the cult looks at a group of people marching somewhere and one person is out-of-step with the rest, the cult claims that everybody else is out-of-step with him.

Oh, yes, and let's not forget the "fake news media". The tRUMP cultists don't know that the leaders in Germany from 1933 to 1945 called the press "fake news" too. Probably because it takes education to know that and education isn't the strong suit of you cultists.[/QUOTE]I say thoroughly corrupt.

They are the PR arms of Wall street and the DNC emulating Pravda, I say "shut it all down".

[URL]https://www.foxnews.com/media/hunter-biden-media-wrong-ron-johnson[/URL]

[URL]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sen-ron-johnson-says-there-was-total-corruption-in-transition-between-obama-and-trump-administrations[/URL]

[URL]https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/ron-johnson-hunter-biden-burisma/2022/03/22/id/1062442/[/URL]

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2716265]Not even 50% in one state not even Delaware LOL.

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/07/04/poll-joe-bidens-job-approval-underwater-48-states-30-overall/[/URL]

The loons on this thread are like Paulie the pipe rider, she says she writes in comment sections on conservative media websites?

Seriously? What kinda loser does that? Well that's what kind of fools you're arguing with.[/QUOTE]Biden's approval ratings are lower than Trump's despite the entire mainstream fake news media literally promoting him, memory holing his gaffes where he collapses on steps / falls off bikes / shits himself / forgets where he is / humiliates America against a bunch of goatherds in Afghanistan / gets inflation up past 10% and gas past $7 / opens the border to illegals (with full welfare gibs) / and much more.

If the media were even-handed, it wouldn't even be close. Which, of course, is why they have to be so egregiously biased. Fortunately, the effect of their lies is wearing thinner every day.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2716272]LOL. Completely wrong and Chris is totally right. The problem with Covid was low oxygen not ventilation / high carbon dioxide. The thought process was that you put the really sick ones on ventilators because it is "doing something". It was hard to criticize a doctor putting someone on a ventilator who was breathing quickly and oxygen levels were down. It was pretty evident though that almost everyone put on them died. Instead, positive pressure was used and higher levels of oxygen were used, and people did much better.

So yeah, really sick people were put on ventilators, and it was observed that most died. Cuomo's call for thousands of ventilators like the lockdowns, hysteria about the vaccines, washing hands, social distancing, and masks were all shown later to either have done nothing or been harmful. That you do not see that is not a surprise. You masturbate to the government narrative.[/QUOTE]You can always tell when the left have been proven wrong about something, because it vanishes from their fake news. A few years ago you couldn't watch CNN without watching a panel with more members than they had viewers blathering rubbish about the fake Russia hoax (paid for by Crooked Hillary Clinton).

Then after a vast, taxpayer-funded two year investigation which was forced to admit there was nothing there, it just disappeared. No admission that all their previous coverage was bullshit, of course. Just slinking away to build the next false narrative with the next set of lies, destroying more good people.

Same with ventilators. Nipples Cuomo's unhinged emmy-winning (LOL) ventilator rants were pushed everywhere, with huge resources being put into these things. Then it turned out they were useless and a complete waste of time, money and life; the fake news media didn't do a mea culpa and apologize: they just turned to the next hoax (Fentanyl Floyd and the mostly peaceful fiery riots, or mandatory vax for healthy young people, or child trannies, or $100 bn for kickbacks in Ukraine).

This is why the great Rush Limbaugh termed them "the drive-by media". They create destruction, havoc and pain with their lies, then they just film it and drive by, onto their next victims.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2716148]The three Justices appointed by Donald Trump all "lied" during their confirmation hearings.[/QUOTE]No, they didn't. But who did lie, on a more important and indeed existential matter for the country, were Senator Edward Kennedy and his cohorts who sponsored the 1965 Immigration Act. They assured the American people that the Act would not change the demographics of the nation. That was a flat-out lie, as we can now see.

Sadly they are mostly dead so cannot be tried and executed for treason, though I wouldn't be opposed to digging up their corpses to hang them. More importantly, the effects of these lies must be reversed, and the demographics of the country returned to the state that they promised it would remain, IE the mid 20th Century when America was still Great.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2715952]Superb discussion on Sweden and COVID here:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp7_o9QGzzA[/URL][/QUOTE]Good link JustTK. It was good to go back and listen to someone as rational as this. I cannot believe Fauci is still in his current position.

All this crap about how the other Scandinavian countries were doing so much better than Sweden is hilarious when they had pretty much the same policies as Sweden did. That pretty much blows the dumb Dem narrative to shit.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2716272]LOL. Completely wrong and Chris is totally right. The problem with Covid was low oxygen not ventilation / high carbon dioxide. The thought process was that you put the really sick ones on ventilators because it is "doing something". It was hard to criticize a doctor putting someone on a ventilator who was breathing quickly and oxygen levels were down. It was pretty evident though that almost everyone put on them died. Instead, positive pressure was used and higher levels of oxygen were used, and people did much better.

So yeah, really sick people were put on ventilators, and it was observed that most died. Cuomo's call for thousands of ventilators like the lockdowns, hysteria about the vaccines, washing hands, social distancing, and masks were all shown later to either have done nothing or been harmful. That you do not see that is not a surprise. You masturbate to the government narrative.[/QUOTE][B]"The problem with Covid was low oxygen not ventilation / high carbon dioxide."[/B].

The purpose of a ventilator is to pump oxygen into the body. Web MD says: "A ventilator mechanically helps pump oxygen into your body. " [URL]https://www.webmd.com/lung/coronavirus-ventilators[/URL]#text=Continued, do%20 it%20 on%20 your%20 own. Many other medical publications say the same thing. But when you believe that Chinese thermostats changed votes or that Italian satellites changed or that the Army took over the airports during the Revolutionary War, it is obvious that you are a clown.

And then there's this: [B]"Cuomo's call for thousands of ventilators like the lockdowns, hysteria about the vaccines, washing hands, social distancing, and masks were all shown later to either have done nothing or been harmful.[/B].

Our resident "I only pretend to be a doctor on ISG" seems to forget (but in reality he never really knew) that in the early days of COVID (which was a "novel" - meaning [B]new[/B] - coronavirus) doctors had to rely on what they knew about prior coronaviruses. And what they knew was that prior coronaviruses spread by touching a contaminated surface and then touching your face. Therefore, since prior coronavirus outbreaks were not airborne, they advocated for disinfecting surfaces, disinfecting the surfaces of groceries, for washing your hands after touching a potentially infected surface, never touching your face and things like that. Because those measures work on a coronavirus that behaves as medical professionals thought it would. I clearly remember watching a video early on in the pandemic about how you were supposed to wipe down groceries. It wasn't the video that followed but any sane person can get the idea. And note the April 3, 2020 date of the article. [URL]https://edition.cnn.com/videos/health/2020/04/03/sanjay-gupta-wiping-cleaning-groceries-demo-town-hall-vpx.cnn[/URL].

Medical professionals didn't advocate for masks since prior coronaviruses were not airborne. They didn't advocate for social distancing because prior coronavirus outbreaks weren't airborne. As it turned out, though, what doctors knew about prior coronavirus behavior was completely wrong re: COVID. And this is how we got to various idiots claiming all of the preventive measures were wrong.

Sheesh.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2716385]No, they didn't. But who did lie, on a more important and indeed existential matter for the country, were Senator Edward Kennedy and his cohorts who sponsored the 1965 Immigration Act. They assured the American people that the Act would not change the demographics of the nation. That was a flat-out lie, as we can now see.

Sadly they are mostly dead so cannot be tried and executed for treason, though I wouldn't be opposed to digging up their corpses to hang them. More importantly, the effects of these lies must be reversed, and the demographics of the country returned to the state that they promised it would remain, IE the mid 20th Century when America was still Great.[/QUOTE]Well stated!

post script I vote to finish the WALL and deport every single illegal alien

including those already in the cemeteries!!

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2716385]No, they didn't. But who did lie, on a more important and indeed existential matter for the country, were Senator Edward Kennedy and his cohorts who sponsored the 1965 Immigration Act. They assured the American people that the Act would not change the demographics of the nation. That was a flat-out lie, as we can now see.

Sadly they are mostly dead so cannot be tried and executed for treason, though I wouldn't be opposed to digging up their corpses to hang them. More importantly, the effects of these lies must be reversed, and the demographics of the country returned to the state that they promised it would remain, IE the mid 20th Century when America was still Great.[/QUOTE]All of Donnie the Dumbass' three SCOTUS nominees said something to the effect of "Roe is settled law and precedent and therefore should not be overturned. " How anybody with a brain (which leaves you out, cupcake) can say "they didn't lie" with a straight face is daft.

Then, of course, there's this bigoted comment." The demographics of the country returned to the state that they promised it would remain, IE the mid 20th Century when America was still Great. " Why not just put on your KKK hood and be done with it.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2716356]Sure, if by "hiring a hit man" he means reducing the number of little unwanted boys his club's members can get their hands on to groom for "our special blessed secret" choir practice.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.aol.com/news/bette-midler-called-tweeting-antitrans-005003012.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2716380]Biden's approval ratings are lower than Trump's despite the entire mainstream fake news media literally promoting him, memory holing his gaffes where he collapses on steps / falls off bikes / shits himself / forgets where he is / humiliates America against a bunch of goatherds in Afghanistan / gets inflation up past 10% and gas past $7 / opens the border to illegals (with full welfare gibs) / and much more.

If the media were even-handed, it wouldn't even be close. Which, of course, is why they have to be so egregiously biased. Fortunately, the effect of their lies is wearing thinner every day.[/QUOTE]Take Trump out if the picture, and Biden polls are in the high teen's at best. It is over for the Dem. 's.