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[QUOTE=Sky Ryder; 1272931]. .

What I am trying to determine, is what is the current status of the P4P scene in / around the Havana location? Did the business find another location in Greenbelt, did Havana's decide to let the gals return, is there a "better" place to go? Of course the other option is to venture over to MBC and try my luck again. One thing is for sure, P. Burgos is out of the question.[/QUOTE]Havana Cafe is no longer an option in the same way that it used to be.

Business is booming there though. Packed almost every night because the "nicer crowd" has returned now that the stigma of being either a FL prostie or a guy on the prowl has been removed.

There are many girls still roaming the fringes and sitting at Seattle Coffee, the wine bar (Cervesaria) nearby or Starbucks but most of them cannot afford a drink so they get moved on quickly. You could sit at either place and watch the passing parade and see if you spot anything passing by, or just sit on the wall by the pond / fountain and they will find you.

None of this is a sure-fire result though, so I suggest you go straight to Malate and MBC if you want a certain result.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1272941]Havana Cafe is no longer an option in the same way that it used to be.

Business is booming there though. Packed almost every night because the "nicer crowd" has returned now that the stigma of being either a FL prostie or a guy on the prowl has been removed.

There are many girls still roaming the fringes and sitting at Seattle Coffee, the wine bar (Cervesaria) nearby or Starbucks but most of them cannot afford a drink so they get moved on quickly. You could sit at either place and watch the passing parade and see if you spot anything passing by, or just sit on the wall by the pond / fountain and they will find you.

None of this is a sure-fire result though, so I suggest you go straight to Malate and MBC if you want a certain result.[/QUOTE]By "nicer" do you include yourself RK and does that exclude exemplary gentleman such as myself.

Maybe it is more fun as there is now lots more "enthusiastic amateurs"?

The LBs also hang around on the edges so beware.

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1272977]By "nicer" do you include yourself RK and does that exclude exemplary gentleman such as myself.

Maybe it is more fun as there is now lots more "enthusiastic amateurs"?

The LBs also hang around on the edges so beware.[/QUOTE]Both you and I have no trouble getting into the "nicer" places WR because we are just dripping with class.

You're right about the LBs. They seem to have trebled in number in recent months and they congregate in packs now too. Makes it even easier to spot them, but I must say some of them appear to have remarkably well-endowed bodies (I am talking about the upper half. I have absolutely NO IDEA about the remainder, just in case some smart ass wants to cast aspersions LOL).

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1273132]Both you and I have no trouble getting into the "nicer" places WR because we are just dripping with class.

You're right about the LBs. They seem to have trebled in number in recent months and they congregate in packs now too. Makes it even easier to spot them, but I must say some of them appear to have remarkably well-endowed bodies (I am talking about the upper half. I have absolutely NO IDEA about the remainder, just in case some smart ass wants to cast aspersions LOL).[/QUOTE]RK and WR, thanks for the info. I did make contact with the last gal I pulled out of Havana's a couple of months ago. She has left town for now, but told me that a LOT of the girls decided to try the overseas route, HK, Shanghai, Dubai, and Singapore were the places she mentioned. I didn't want to ask for a referral from her, in case she decided to come back to Manila next week.

I looks like I will make my way over to MBC area and see what's shaking over there. I' ve heard that the Rothman is a decent hotel in the area according to the forum, but if anyone has recent experience I would gladly accept your input.

If I had some more time, I would like to try some of the "normal clubs / bars" just to see what is possible. Maybe next trip!

Thanks again!

I've been to Havana a few times over the last few weeks and most recently last night. There are a bunch of girls on the outskirts and sitting on the benches around and I saw several groups of guys call over some of the girls to sit with them. They are also at Starbucks and Seattle's Best as well as the area between GB3 and GB2.

I have never gone to Havana for a pickup but it seems that there are plenty of options still around and by my estimate there were over 50 girls available last night.

As mentioned, there were probably about 20-30+ ladyboys also in the area.

They may not be sitting at the tables at Havana by themselves anymore but there are still a lot there.

[QUOTE=Sugoi; 1273392]I've been to Havana a few times over the last few weeks and most recently last night. There are a bunch of girls on the outskirts and sitting on the benches around and I saw several groups of guys call over some of the girls to sit with them. They are also at Starbucks and Seattle's Best as well as the area between GB3 and GB2.

I have never gone to Havana for a pickup but it seems that there are plenty of options still around and by my estimate there were over 50 girls available last night.

As mentioned, there were probably about 20-30+ ladyboys also in the area.

They may not be sitting at the tables at Havana by themselves anymore but there are still a lot there.[/QUOTE]To Sugoi

What time last night did you go to Havana how is the quality of the girl did you pick anyone up and the price for LT.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Sugoi; 1273392]I've been to Havana a few times over the last few weeks and most recently last night. There are a bunch of girls on the outskirts and sitting on the benches around and I saw several groups of guys call over some of the girls to sit with them. They are also at Starbucks and Seattle's Best as well as the area between GB3 and GB2.

I have never gone to Havana for a pickup but it seems that there are plenty of options still around and by my estimate there were over 50 girls available last night.

As mentioned, there were probably about 20-30+ ladyboys also in the area.

They may not be sitting at the tables at Havana by themselves anymore but there are still a lot there.[/QUOTE]Sugoi is endorsing exactly what I said in post #8904. Options are still all around Greenbelt but you need to be a bit more discerning and, as we both re-iterate, the LBs are also out in quite aggressive large numbers.

But before we get to that, just to add that after 5 years of being here, on this particular name I decided to both a) have a break from the various boards of Philippines, as you do, and be) started to use the ignore button. So if you are one of the wankers of the world, get your flame on guys, but it aint going anywhere near me, I'm retardant LOL.

Back to the ladies. So I found a wife proof reason to suddenly get a few days in Manila next week.

My last trip generally involved 2 or 3 girls a day, all properly arranged in sequence before I even started, and at the end of that trip, I said to myself, as I had done om previous trips that I should allow some space and time for random events to occur, and equally some space for new ones. Last trip had a total of 5 repeats plus some newbies, the repeats being great girls, but we need new now and again!

So all I know right now is Ms 18 will be meeting me early after my arrival (assuming she can escape her dragon of a mum who seems intent on keeping her at home. Will she break free / won't she. Well if not theres always a ready alternative waiting in the wings.)

Ms 37 (a newbie, a change of pace) maybe meeting me in the afternoon.

Evening is being kept free for whoever answer the phone. There are 4 on the list.

Next day sees me working, with a choice of 3 for the evening. 21, 21, or 23. We see who repsonds first, fastest or best.

Next day I don't have any plans in day, but Miss 23 will arrive for an evening date. Her only proviso was " I hope you arent a maniac ". LOL. No honey, just a horny guy disguised as a gentleman.

Next day, few short meetings, then some afternoon fun will occur with one or another and maybe that will be that. As always a way more detailed report will follow, when I've returned home, and dowloaded the pics. Every trip I have there is better than the last, this one, whilst a little unplanned so far, will be equally so.

So, flamers, turn your ignition on. Oops. So sorry I can't see what your saying. What a shame. NOT!

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1273419]To Sugoi

What time last night did you go to Havana how is the quality of the girl did you pick anyone up and the price for LT.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]FE,

No, I didn't pick up any and didn't ask the rate. I was there from about 9pm to midnight.

On another note, has anyone tried the dozens of "massage" girls on Burgos? They are all over the place including on the side streets, on Makati Ave, on Kalayaan, etc. I know of at least 5 or 6 massage places around burgos with a Happy Ending (sometimes more) but I've heard that the ones on the street will do much more at a lower price. Anyone tried them?

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1273419]To Sugoi

What time last night did you go to Havana how is the quality of the girl did you pick anyone up and the price for LT.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]I think you must have missed a few posts Eddie.

Havana no longer has hooker tables with "come hither" women.

They have been kicked out.

Some of the obvious hookers hover around the edges and walk up and down hoping some guy already seated at a table will invite them to sit down.

As a few of us have already warned. The LBs appear to be moving in larger numbers around Greenbelt now.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1274118]I think you must have missed a few posts Eddie.

Havana no longer has hooker tables with "come hither" women.

They have been kicked out.

Some of the obvious hookers hover around the edges and walk up and down hoping some guy already seated at a table will invite them to sit down.

As a few of us have already warned. The LBs appear to be moving in larger numbers around Greenbelt now.[/QUOTE]There are also a lot more LBs around Makati Avenue and P. Burgos. Another reason to be wary of picking up a SW around P. Burgos.

If you can spend some time on chatting before 3-4 weeks of your trip, then DIA is the best route, recently I was in Manila and Davao, met 3 girls fm dia, they were Qing!

2 college students. 21 & 23 and another 20yr working at home helping her mother, they travelled 10th 24 hours by bus to meet me, paid 2000 peso per night plus 1000 peso bus fare, will post photos soon.

TMT

I have trouble getting them to come across town, so surprised you got them to come so far. Did you set it up as a regular date or did they understand it was a p4p arrangement? X.

[QUOTE=Topmanten; 1275536]If you can spend some time on chatting before 3-4 weeks of your trip, then DIA is the best route, recently I was in Manila and Davao, met 3 girls fm dia, they were Qing!

2 college students. 21 & 23 and another 20yr working at home helping her mother, they travelled 10th 24 hours by bus to meet me, paid 2000 peso per night plus 1000 peso bus fare, will post photos soon.

TMT[/QUOTE]

I made it very clear to them that it was just a p4p, because I don't want them to give any false hope for a permananet relationship, made it very clear, timings, date, rate, so that there is no scope for any misunderstanding, I offer them a rate and all of them accepted it immeditely. Province girls will gladly accept 2000 peso! For whole night.

[QUOTE=X Man;1275645]I have trouble getting them to come across town, so surprised you got them to come so far. Did you set it up as a regular date or did they understand it was a p4p arrangement? X.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1273132]You're right about the LBs. They seem to have trebled in number in recent months and they congregate in packs now too. Makes it even easier to spot them, but I must say some of them appear to have remarkably well-endowed bodies (I am talking about the upper half. I have absolutely NO IDEA about the remainder, just in case some smart ass wants to cast aspersions LOL).[/QUOTE]Some have had surgery to "enhance" the arse also. Sticks out in all directions. Looks really weird.