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[QUOTE=Sprite13; 1108065]I only had about 1500 on my wallet so I gave that to her. And she was jumping for joy then she said she had to leave to pay her landlord and would call me later so we can have lunch, hang out and weather permitting, going to the beach.

Cheers. [/QUOTE]Sprite: This is not a scam. This is typical of how pinay operate. They meet foreigner in public places (mall, bars) , spend 2-3 hours in his room, and ask / hint / beg for money. Sometimes they ask for ridiculously large amounts (or even small amounts). Sometimes they discuss their 'need' in advance in the bar or mall. I've had them ask for 20, 000 pesos. 200 pesos, and even 'up to you sir as I'm desprat to pay me rent'.

Now to the 1500. That's fine. If you were just a few blocks up Mango St at the gogo bars, you would have paid about the same amount (p1700) for a bargirl who would stay LT and boink you twice. But those aren't freelancers. On the other hand, most Cebuanas are happy with 500 for a few hours work, and 1000 for LT. In fact, I've never had a freelancer complain when I hand her 500 for a few hours work, nor have they balked in the mall or bar when discussing the amount in advance.

You might want to try the gogo bars. Also try the disco at Sunflower, on Thurs-Sat night it is jumpin' with talent. Also, Ayala and Robinson's mall are rich with pickups.

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1107717]HW.

Well so far the pregnant girl has been a hit, one monger already seen and said she was awesome. She is cute. Had a few other PMs etc.

Will wander down that cafe if I have time and see would be a change to malls.

As for shaved / hair. Shaved wins all the time despite the efforts of some to promte otherwise, was asked by a good ISG to stop asking girls to shave LOL[/QUOTE]WR,

If I remember correctly, I was told the cafe is on J. Urgello Street, near the dorms. Just thought this might help in the search for the shop.

Also, I think the girls might have been gone for the holidays. But they should be returning for classes now.

Enjoy!

HW

[quote=nail the world; 1108016]she enjoyed sleeping for the night. and that's what she did, enjoy sleeping. in the morning i had to head out so i wasn't going to bang her but i asked if i could and she said no, half asleep. i said if i bar fine her again i would bang her 3 times, she said i could find plenty of other girls for this purpose. wtf? point #1.

point #2. i asked her how much would get out of the 3000 i had paid. she said 650. wtf? is this correct? she wasn't asking me for money at all. considering how much rip off i had gone through in manila with zero outcome, if there was half truth in what she said, i didn't feel guilty in handing another 2000 to her.

kc from papillon. overall 5000 damage, tight porn star fuck. really beautiful, lovely skin, dense hair, just enough full body.

[/quote]she lied about the 650. girls from that side of the street tell me (depending the bar and its barfine) that they make 1000 or 1500 less than the barfine. so a 3000 barfine will net her either p1500 or p2000 for the night's work. its expected lt that she sleeps there with you. however, if you didn't discuss your preference of a boff in the morning, she's under no obligation to stay and do that. you giving her 2000 tip means she will get at least 1500 from the bar + 2000 from you, total 3500 (or more if you bought her lady's drink). and you got one f*ck.

if you had taken one from the other side of the street, you would have paid 1700 (and little or no tip) , gotten a morning f*ck most likely) , and she would collect p1000 from the 1700 barfine. you see the difference between each side of the street:

your side: cost to customer 5000+, girl gets 3500+.

vikings side: cost to customer p1700, girl gets 1000+.

regarding not getting the morning f*ck. i talk to many men who run into similar problems. i lump all these problems into one category: not getting what you expected. these can range amongst: no morning sex, no swallow, no anal, no camera, girl leaves early, and so on. the girl is under no obligation to do anything specific once in your room, unless you spelled it out beforehand. some bar mamasan's get specifically peeved when girls do this. other bars don't seem to care. some bars in filipines have specific policies and tell their girls never to discuss specifics in the bar, as it obligates the girl and the bar (will post an ac bar owner's fascinating story about this later in the ac thread). lot of guys i talk to tell me they are too embarrassed to tell the girl in the bar they want anal sex ("gosh its not romantic the girls don't want to hear that"). they think it will turn the girl off. i'm telling you that it does not. she will either say yes, or no. but she's used to hearing it."of course sir. this is my job." or,"i don't mind you ask it. its my job. but i can't do that part."

try this the next time you find one you want to barfine. ask her first if she's interested in barfine with you. she might say no, for many different reasons (cherry, menstruation, doesn't like you, etc). if she says yes, say to her your preferences: "hon i need a girl who's fine with the camera, mouth, pussy, ass, swallow, phone off in the room till you leave, and stay till 10am with me, all i want. i'll buy breakfast." she will either say yes, or no. anything other than a yes, send her back to the dance line, but first ask if there is another girl in the bar who can do those things for you (often they will point out a girl who will).

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1108171]She lied about the 650. Girls from that side of the street tell me (depending the bar and its barfine) that they make 1000 or 1500 less than the barfine. So a 3000 barfine will net her either p1500 or p2000 for the night's work. Its expected LT that she sleeps there with you. However, if you didn't discuss your preference of a boff in the morning, she's under no obligation to stay and do that. You giving her 2000 tip means she will get at least 1500 from the bar + 2000 from you, total 3500 (or more if you bought her Lady's Drink). And you got one f*ck.[/QUOTE]Thanks for clarifying again Westcoast. I could feel that I was paying more. But this time at least I got something in return. Next time (whenever it is) per your advice I am going to negotiate everything right in the bar. These are pros after all. I keep cutting them too much slack and they keep taking advantage.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1106715]I find tips range from 100 to 500 in cebu (more in manila).[/QUOTE]No kidding, In some Manila bars, even a starting tip of 1000p will get you a dirty unfriendly stare.

FZ

[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1108158]Sprite: This is not a scam. This is typical of how pinay operate. They meet foreigner in public places (mall, bars) , spend 2-3 hours in his room, and ask / hint / beg for money. Sometimes they ask for ridiculously large amounts (or even small amounts). Sometimes they discuss their 'need' in advance in the bar or mall. I've had them ask for 20, 000 pesos. 200 pesos, and even 'up to you sir as I'm desprat to pay me rent'.

Now to the 1500. That's fine. If you were just a few blocks up Mango St at the gogo bars, you would have paid about the same amount (p1700) for a bargirl who would stay LT and boink you twice. But those aren't freelancers. On the other hand, most Cebuanas are happy with 500 for a few hours work, and 1000 for LT. In fact, I've never had a freelancer complain when I hand her 500 for a few hours work, nor have they balked in the mall or bar when discussing the amount in advance.

You might want to try the gogo bars. Also try the disco at Sunflower, on Thurs-Sat night it is jumpin' with talent. Also, Ayala and Robinson's mall are rich with pickups. [/QUOTE]I too have never paid more than 500p for ST with a freelancer in Ayala, Robinson's or from DIA. Have not tried finding FL'ers at Juliana or Mango Square, often I am taking a girl there. I am not usually an LT kind of guy, but last trip, I let one stay till 10am the next morning so I gave her 1000p. Never a complaint; never ran into anyone who asked for more. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Sharka; 1108257]No kidding, In some Manila bars, even a starting tip of 1000p will get you a dirty unfriendly stare.

FZ[/QUOTE]Certainly the Burgos bars are like that. Some girls will balk for less than 2000, and refuse to go. Some ask and get 3000 up front for the tip alone (she's collecting p1000-1500 from the barfine also). I've not been in EDSA, but I understand its the same system, some gents tell me the girls are asking and getting p2000+ tips.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1108411]Certainly the Burgos bars are like that. Some girls will balk for less than 2000, and refuse to go. Some ask and get 3000 up front for the tip alone (she's collecting p1000-1500 from the barfine also). I've not been in EDSA, but I understand its the same system, some gents tell me the girls are asking and getting p2000+ tips.[/QUOTE]EDSA girls ask for 2500 but are satisfied with 2000. Porkers and geriatrics are probably the only ones who will do 1500.

Will be there tonight. Maybe I should take one for the team and bf some beluga in the name of research?

Nope. Fuck you guys. LOL.

[QUOTE=Finrod;1108380]I too have never paid more than 500p for ST with a freelancer in Ayala, Robinson's or from DIA. Have not tried finding FL'ers at Juliana or Mango Square, often I am taking a girl there.[/QUOTE]The going rate for western tourists in and around Mango Square is 1000 to 1500 php. For locals between 500 to 1000 php. The majority of the females are available for a price after 1:00 am as many are BG. But have to be extra careful and screen them well.

[QUOTE=Mattrick;1108536]The going rate for western tourists in and around Mango Square is 1000 to 1500 php. For locals between 500 to 1000 php. The majority of the females are available for a price after 1:00 am as many are BG. But have to be extra careful and screen them well.[/QUOTE]The Mango Sq prices. Kind of a more upscale place. Good place to go for live band, but sounds like a place to be avoided for snatch (I pay 1500 for LT in Manila). Sounds like one might not be getting a FL if she's really an off-duty BG. Freelance elsewhere is 1/2 that. Thanks for the update Mattrick.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1108550]The Mango Sq prices. Kind of a more upscale place. Good place to go for live band, but sounds like a place to be avoided for snatch (I pay 1500 for LT in Manila). Sounds like one might not be getting a FL if she's really an off-duty BG. Freelance elsewhere is 1/2 that. Thanks for the update Mattrick.[/QUOTE]Much obliged. Those prices are for LT unless you have the unfortunate luck to get a runner. Know a few girls who have made a career picking up guys in Mango Square and do fairly well supporting their families.

The bars and discos there all have DJ's except on rare occasions. You would think one of the bars would offer live music to attract a more upscale crowd but most young people these days want to dance to DJ spun music.

Grab a chair at one of the many places that offer outdoor seating, order a drink and watch the freaks come out at night!

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[QUOTE=Mattrick; 1108578]Grab a chair at one of the many places that offer outdoor seating, order a drink and watch the freaks come out at night!

[/QUOTE]First night in Cebu (and Philippines) I sat at that exact same spot outside Julianas, watching the sun come up. I am almost legless (too many red horses) wondering if I can make it to the taxi rank. Next thing I know I'm joined by a cute little spinner and off we go back to my hotel. The only memories I had of that morning are photos of her on my bed in a short leopard print dress, and the sex was awesome with her doing all the work. Came back to my senses around mid day, throbbing headache, slipped a 1000 peso under her bag as she got ready to leave. Back to bed again.

[B]Deja Vu[/B]: Fast forward two months. My second trip to the Phils, last November. Getting cozy with Bea at Love City and guess who comes by with a "hey I know you!". LOL! She goes by the name Ice.

[QUOTE=Sir Van Koff; 1108615]First night in Cebu (and Philippines) I sat at that exact same spot outside Julianas, watching the sun come up. I am almost legless (too many red horses) wondering if I can make it to the taxi rank. Next thing I know I'm joined by a cute little spinner and off we go back to my hotel. The only memories I had of that morning are photos of her on my bed in a short leopard print dress, and the sex was awesome with her doing all the work. Came back to my senses around mid day, throbbing headache, slipped a 1000 peso under her bag as she got ready to leave. Back to bed again.

[B]Deja Vu[/B]: Fast forward two months. My second trip to the Phils, last November. Getting cozy with Bea at Love City and guess who comes by with a "hey I know you!". LOL! She goes by the name Ice. [/QUOTE]Sorry that should read Dimples not Love City (which is rubbish). Bea was a disaster. Absolutism GF in the bar. Went down to McD for a bite and back to Parklane. More GF. Lots of naughty nibbling and DFK. Extremely enthusiastic. Started off with a mindblowing BBJ followed by porn star quality cowgirl session (very hard bouncing). Something didn't feel right. She said there was blood! Looked down at my crotch which resembled like a triple homicide scene. She said something about hard sex causing this, and no, it wasn't her period. The shower looked like a scene from psycho while I washed up after carefully slipping off the condom (I'm paranoid). Later she encouraged me to penetrate again whilst giving me a handjob. No thanks ma'am I'm just going to sleep off my hard on. More GF cuddling, and a good nights sleep (and 3000 down the drain, so to speak).

"Absolute". Not sure how I managed to spell it with an.ism. Why can't I edit my posts here?

[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1108171]She lied about the 650. Girls from that side of the street tell me (depending the bar and its barfine) that they make 1000 or 1500 less than the barfine. So a 3000 barfine will net her either p1500 or p2000 for the night's work. Its expected LT that she sleeps there with you. However, if you didn't discuss your preference of a boff in the morning, she's under no obligation to stay and do that. You giving her 2000 tip means she will get at least 1500 from the bar + 2000 from you, total 3500 (or more if you bought her Lady's Drink). And you got one f*ck.

If you had taken one from the other side of the street, you would have paid 1700 (and little or no tip) , gotten a morning f*ck most likely) , and she would collect p1000 from the 1700 barfine. You see the difference between each side of the street:

Your side: cost to customer 5000+, girl gets 3500+.

Vikings side: cost to customer p1700, girl gets 1000+. [/QUOTE]Good Report, but now on the Vikings side the bar fine is 1800P.

I took one out of Sisters, Hotrods and Temptations this past weekend and all were 1800P.

Freaking Mommasan in Temptations almost made me lose my cool. I asked a spinner if she wanted to go and she said yes and she had the waitress call the momma over. She came over to write it up and told me that I needed to buy two more LD's. Long story short I told her to get bent and if she did not stop the BS, I would walk out and she apologized and told the girl to get dressed. I hate when the momma's think they can pull BS on customers.

Robb

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1107717]HW.

Well so far the pregnant girl has been a hit, one monger already seen and said she was awesome. She is cute. Had a few other PMs etc.

Will wander down that cafe if I have time and see would be a change to malls.

As for shaved / hair. Shaved wins all the time despite the efforts of some to promte otherwise, was asked by a good ISG to stop asking girls to shave LOL[/QUOTE]Thanks WR. I was in Cebu this weekend and WR set me up with her.

She is very cute and I bet before she got pregnant she was a great spinner. She is super horny, vocal and fun. I got to see her two days this weekend.

Sorry photo is from cell phone, as she did not want to allow pictures as she feels she is ugly, but she is far from ugly.

Robb

[QUOTE=Robbaf; 1108676]Thanks WR. I was in Cebu this weekend and WR set me up with her.

She is very cute and I bet before she got pregnant she was a great spinner. She is super horny, vocal and fun. I got to see her two days this weekend.

Sorry photo is from cell phone, as she did not want to allow pictures as she feels she is ugly, but she is far from ugly.

Robb[/QUOTE]Glad I hadn't eaten when I took a look at the photo, could feel my stomach heaving. Glad she has found some admirers to help with her financial needs. I just hope I can eradicate that image from my brain otherwise I feel the thought of it will make me impotent. Just goes to show that the old adage is so true, 'one mans meat is another man's poison'

Mortman, you're right. Looking at that shaved pussy (thanks to WR) , made me sick too.

[QUOTE=David_33;1108691]Mortman, you're right. Looking at that shaved pussy (thanks to WR) , made me sick too.[/QUOTE]LOL David.

I do this for the good of mankind, you neanderthals who love hairy muff, Robbaf et al. just need enlightenment

You know the more I get them to shave the more they stay with WR and get a decent 'education' :)

But as a good mate you also know I tell them not to shave when you are in town.

Glad she was fun Robbaf, always vocal, lovely spinner, had a good time and text me a thank you after.

Barba. You twisted old man. You will really enjoy her in March :D

I'm weighing in a little late here and I won't dwell, but as one of the most senior members of this entire site I want to lend my support to greg london. The previous accusations made against him are baffling. Greg has helped me meet contacts on numerous occasions and his tips have never been less than outstanding. He's 100% trustworthy and reliable in every manner.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Sir Van Koff;1108618]Sorry that should read Dimples not Love City (which is rubbish). Bea was a disaster. Absolutism GF in the bar. Went down to McD for a bite and back to Parklane. More GF. Lots of naughty nibbling and DFK. Extremely enthusiastic. Started off with a mindblowing BBJ followed by porn star quality cowgirl session (very hard bouncing). Something didn't feel right. She said there was blood! Looked down at my crotch which resembled like a triple homicide scene. She said something about hard sex causing this, and no, it wasn't her period. The shower looked like a scene from psycho while I washed up after carefully slipping off the condom (I'm paranoid). Later she encouraged me to penetrate again whilst giving me a handjob. No thanks ma'am I'm just going to sleep off my hard on. More GF cuddling, and a good nights sleep (and 3000 down the drain, so to speak).[/QUOTE][Quote]Sir Van Koff.

"Absolute". Not sure how I managed to spell it with an. Ism. Why can't I edit my posts here? [/quote]You could edit it. As far I know you have to edit your post quickly before someone else posts it or 5 minutes max. If you come next day or an hour later, the edit option would be gone.

I think the girl had period. I had been in the same situation multiple times. Got scared what the hell. Apparently some girls don't mind having sex when on period here. I had to change couple of bed cover in my condo 'because of blood stains. It never goes easily. Anyways nothing to be worried about. Good luck

Hello,

Where is the place to go for meeting the best girls in Cebu?

[QUOTE=Fistmaster; 1108987]Hello,

Where is the place to go for meeting the best girls in Cebu? [/QUOTE]Spend some time reading back through the threads, invest some time by doing some research of your own and then come back and ask specific questions. Some more forthright members may tell you to RTFF and not be so lazy, I am just giving you a gentle hint. Your question is so open ended a person could write pages and pages and still only scratch the surface

[QUOTE=Mortman;1108684]Glad I hadn't eaten when I took a look at the photo, could feel my stomach heaving. Glad she has found some admirers to help with her financial needs. I just hope I can eradicate that image from my brain otherwise I feel the thought of it will make me impotent. Just goes to show that the old adage is so true, 'one mans meat is another man's poison'[/QUOTE]I guess I am just a wh*re monger and I enjoy fucking and nothing is sweeter then a girl who wants to fuck. How many guys have barfined a girl only to be disappointed in the room. This girl is super horny and she can't get enough:) She came back 1 1/2 hour before I had to check out of the hotel and we went two rounds and not just sex, she is wild and she gives a great BJ. WR is a great trainer:D

BTW, I went into Folicks and there was five girls and three were not pregnant, but they were bigger then her and a guy came in and took two of them for three days barfine, but I would not even consider taking one of them for ST. So you are correct,"One man's meat is another man's poison"

Robb

[QUOTE=Sharka; 1108257]No kidding, In some Manila bars, even a starting tip of 1000p will get you a dirty unfriendly stare.

FZ, tried to PM you with info but not sure if you can't receive PM or I
got locked out before I could finish.

Shark

[QUOTE=Starchild2012;1108948]You could edit it. As far I know you have to edit your post quickly before someone else posts it or 5 minutes max. [/QUOTE]Yup, got that right. I tried to look something up and then back to add to my previous post to another member FZ and the edit function was gone.

Shark

[QUOTE=Fistmaster; 1108987]Hello,

Where is the place to go for meeting the best girls in Cebu? [/QUOTE]Colon Street, at 3am, with no pants on. Read the fakking forum, you lazy twat.

[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1109756]Colon Street, at 3am, with no pants on. .[/QUOTE]No joke, if you stood there at 3am by yourself, odds are you will end up with no pants.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Fistmaster; 1108987]Hello,

Where is the place to go for meeting the best girls in Cebu? [/QUOTE]Try this for starters [url]http://www.cebu-nightlife.com/[/url]. Thats how I started.

Not only rtff also google helps at lot

[QUOTE=Sharka; 1109831]No joke, if you stood there at 3am by yourself, odds are you will end up with no pants.

Cheers[/QUOTE]Haha! Indeed

[QUOTE=Sharka; 1109831]No joke, if you stood there at 3am by yourself, odds are you will end up with no pants.

Cheers[/QUOTE]Well gents, if you survive this (Colon 3 am alone) , you can finally graduate as a doctor of Cebu Nightlife. LOL.

No kidding:

I NEVER had problems this time, just be watchful and VERY FRIENDLY to the pimps you will meet there.

The pims can be a hassle, but very helpful also.

And of course they will ask a tip from you always. Better for your health to do some tipping.

Rampana,

Your paying PIMP'S to get your girls now? I thought you dispissed another person help in getting your girls and you go it alone?

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[QUOTE=Rampana; 1110058]Well gents, if you survive this (Colon 3 am alone) , you can finally graduate as a doctor of Cebu Nightlife. LOL.

No kidding:

I NEVER had problems this time, just be watchful and VERY FRIENDLY to the pimps you will meet there.

The pimps can be a hassle, but very helpful also.

And of course they will ask a tip from you always. Better for your health to do some tipping. [/QUOTE]

The going rate of 500p is split 300p to girl / 200p to Mamasan / Pimp. No need to pay tip to Pimp.

The better girls are only in it for a short while, the others are druggies for sure. NOTE: Mamasan.

Across the street from GV Tower hotel is a total nutcase. Beware.

Cheapy.

[QUOTE=Rampana; 1110058]Well gents, if you survive this (Colon 3 am alone) , you can finally graduate as a doctor of Cebu Nightlife. LOL.

No kidding:

I NEVER had problems this time, just be watchful and VERY FRIENDLY to the pimps you will meet there.

The pims can be a hassle, but very helpful also.

And of course they will ask a tip from you always. Better for your health to do some tipping. [/QUOTE]

Anyone fancy a beer in Cebu? I am here until Sunday before heading to CDO. Sinulog has already pissed me off, tried to buy a local sim card yesterday in the basement of country mall. Just as I started speaking to the assistant, half the population of a local school turned up, with dancers and a noisy band with loud drums. Couldn't hear anything for the next 15 minutes other than my ear drums exploding.

met two dia contacts today in robinsons. both aged 19 with probably the smallest pert bodies i have ever seen on girls of this age. one of the girls appeared very shy and surprisingly they were not hungry and keen to get down to business. now i am staying with my regular gf and her two kids and though she is very open minded she would have baulked at the idea of me using our hotel room to rep001ter my seed amongst other unfortunates. so we had a brief chat on the stairs of robinsons. i told them i was staying at a friends house with him and his family thus ruling out going back to my hotel. the shy girl was behaving very coy almost like a virgin and she had a very innocent and fresh look about her and within a few minutes of chatting we agreed to go to that famous short time hotel the queensland.

very soon we had hailed a cab and were on our way through the impossibly congested traffic to the queensland. we had only been in the cab a few minutes when i noticed that the loose fitting tops on both girls had bulged out due to the position they were sat in the car. both girls were displaying huge tatoos over one breast almost like clones; i could see clearly as i was sat on the back seat with them both.

now save for ladyboys, this is the second biggest turn off for me, i absolutely detest tatoos. i know it is probably stupid of me and completely without any logical foundation, but i do hate them with a vengeance. i was already having cold feet when both girls announced they worked at club misty a club i have never heard of. bottom line is they are both bar girls and if i wanted a bar girl well i would have gone to a bar.

i stopped the cab, it had only travelled a few hundred meters in the thick traffic (remind me to avoid sinulog in future) , i made my excuses hastily and returned to robinsons in time for a further dia 'interview' that i had arranged and luckily hadn't yet cancelled.

Well my next DIA interviewee asked to change the venue from Robinsons to SM Mall at short notice so I made my way over by cab. She was an older girl aged 29 but she had promised to bring a young 18 year old virgin in need of money. What should have been no more than a 15 minute cab journey, took nearly one hour due to the traffic. As I arrived I recieved a text from her saying that she was outside SM Mall opposite the Radisson hotel. Well I arrived at that location and was unable to find her anywhere. I texted her back and she replied that she was now in the green zone, wherever the f#ck that is. I was feeling hot and bothered and sent a text back telling her to come to the place she had arranged to meet and I went off for a coffee in Bo's. Well what can only be described as a frustrating 40 minutes of texting back and forth and trying to give the simplest of instructions took place, with me nearly leaving through complete exasperation at the girls inability to understand basic instructions where to meet. Anyway the two girls eventually turned up and we headed to the usual jolibees for a truly wonderful dining experience. During the meal we got chatting and the younger girl appeared very nervous and shy, she was very poor and had lost her parents at a young age. We negotiated a price of 1500 for the girl (very very cheap in my book) and 500 for her older companion. They agreed to accompany me to the Queensland (2nd time lucky I hoped) and as they were finishing their food I went to the basement of SM mall to buy some lubricant and condoms.

We arrived at the Queensland and as usual no one batted an eye as I walked in with both girls. Short time here is 300 for three hours and though it is basic, the rooms are functional and serve their purpose.

The 18 year old was very shy and I went for a shower whilst she undressed. She was only about 4'10" in height and about 40 kilos, very tiny. We started to kiss and I began stroking her now naked body. I pulled the towel away from myself so I was completely naked. The other girl was sat at the table watching everything intently and the younger one began talking in Cebuano. It turns out she is now having cold feet and asked to give me a blow job instead. I pointed out the agreement was for sex and I tried to reassure her telling her I would take things slowly and gently.

She seemed to relax a bit more and lay back on the bed as we started french kissing. I ran my hands over her firm slim body and moved down to her pussy. She was quite wet and I started to massage her clitoris gently before inserting a finger gently inside her pussy. My finger had got no more than a centimeter inside her when she tensed up and pushed me away complaing it hurt too much.

I added copius amounts of lubricant to her pussy and my still very hard cock but as soon as I entered her with a finger the same thing was repeated again. She allowed me to lie on top of her and just rub my cock on the outside of her vaginal lips, but this is like sniffing a gourmet meal when you are starving hungry, but not being allowed to eat.

In the end I had to settle for a very poor blow job without condom and after finishing myself off I managed to get most of my cum over her face and lips.

I gave her 1000 despite the poor performance, her friend 500 and with Jolibees, the taxis and the hotel the total cost came to about 2200. Worth the money just for the experience I guess, but would I return for a second round. Probably not!

Mort, I also enjoy your reports and all the info you share. Glad to see you having fun and still with the girlfriend. She seems to be open to your life style.

Had a good trip myself. Met up with WR and had some new experinces.

Looking forward to your reports. Guess soon we will see some CDO stuff. Spooks has bought his bar back. At least I read where he said he did. Hope you stop by and see him for the local info. Sorry about Sinloug. Have heard from many the city goes crazy.

[QUOTE=Rampana; 1110058]Well gents, if you survive this (Colon 3 am alone) , you can finally graduate as a doctor of Cebu Nightlife. LOL.

No kidding:

I NEVER had problems this time, just be watchful and VERY FRIENDLY to the pimps you will meet there.

The pims can be a hassle, but very helpful also.

And of course they will ask a tip from you always. Better for your health to do some tipping. [/QUOTE]I've been to Cebu 2 times and both times I had visited the Colon area at about 10pm. 11pm (don't ask me why). This area was always dark, dirty and not much traffic (foot or otherwise). Not the safest area in Cebu. Seems only the lucky or desperate types will venture here after midnight. Didn't really like the pimps there as most wanted you to follow them into a lonely dark street or building. Again, not my kind of mongering scene. At best, its an area to be careful in rather than an area to endorse-IMO.

Shark

[QUOTE=Sharka; 1112200]I've been to Cebu 2 times and both times I had visited the Colon area at about 10pm. 11pm (don't ask me why). This area was always dark, dirty and not much traffic (foot or otherwise). Not the safest area in Cebu. Seems only the lucky or desperate types will venture here after midnight. Didn't really like the pimps there as most wanted you to follow them into a lonely dark street or building. Again, not my kind of mongering scene. At best, its an area to be careful in rather than an area to endorse-IMO.

Shark[/QUOTE]I was in the Colon Street area last night at about 1am. I had been to Mango Square and picked up an attractive 18 year old single mom. Daisy and the kids were sleeping in my hotel room so I decided to head for the Sogo Hotel for some short time fun. They only had the excecutive room available for 420 pesos and as I was in no mood to wait, I happily paid. The room was actually much better than the deluxe rooms and almost gave the impression that you were staying in a reasonable budget hotel.

The girl was very cute and her belly had the faintest evidence of childbirth by way of a few stretch marks, but nothing a man on a galloping horse would notice. I was feeling very horny so the deed was over in about 35 minutes, from the time we entered the room until the time we were ready to leave. She had a cute friend waiting downstairs in the lobby, I did try for a threesome but they both looked shocked at the suggestion.

Anyway I gave the girl the agreed money and they departed ahead of me as I was returning the room key at reception.

It was nearly 1am so I decided to go for a wander around the area. Now IMHO the Colon Street area at night is not dangerous provided one keeps one's wits about them. It is not a place I would wander around drunk, that would be like inviting trouble, but I can tell you now, I would pick this place to walk at night above many places in London or Los Angeles that I could mention. Last night the area was very busy, loads of freelancers about, lots of bustling bars and what looked like makeshift night cubs. It is very seedy and about as low down in the local eco system as you can get, but it adds to the charm of the place. There were many girls of questionable maturity, loads of wanabee pimps, taxi touts, and other low life in abundance. I was wandering around alone, like I have done many times before. Stick to the main roads, don't go there drunk and don't flash your cash and you should have no problems. It is an alternative and very seedy option to consider, if you want to try something completely different from the closeted comfort of a girlie bar, or the civilized and commercial set up around Mango Square.

M

[QUOTE=Redman69; 1111711]<SNIP

Sorry about Sinloug. Have heard from many the city goes crazy. [/QUOTE]I have posted on 3 different threads my advice to guys to stay well away from Cebu during Sinulog UNLESS you like to walk and you are staying right in the center of Mango (Gen Maxilom) Ave.

Already I have 3 PMs from guys saying that they wished they had taken my advice and gone elsewhere until after Sinulog, and I read these posts about others getting frustrated by the traffic.

If you are on a short time sked and need to use taxis for meeting girls at SM or Ayala Malls or going to Queensland Motel then you will spend at least 25% of your time in Cebu sittting in a taxi.

[QUOTE=Mortman; 1112242]I was in the Colon Street area last night at about 1am. I had been to Mango Square and picked up an attractive 18 year old single mom. Daisy and the kids were sleeping in my hotel room so I decided to head for the Sogo Hotel for some short time fun. They only had the excecutive room available for 420 pesos and as I was in no mood to wait, I happily paid. The room was actually much better than the deluxe rooms and almost gave the impression that you were staying in a reasonable budget hotel.

The girl was very cute and her belly had the faintest evidence of childbirth by way of a few stretch marks, but nothing a man on a galloping horse would notice. I was feeling very horny so the deed was over in about 35 minutes, from the time we entered the room until the time we were ready to leave. She had a cute friend waiting downstairs in the lobby, I did try for a threesome but they both looked shocked at the suggestion.

Anyway I gave the girl the agreed money and they departed ahead of me as I was returning the room key at reception.

It was nearly 1am so I decided to go for a wander around the area. Now IMHO the Colon Street area at night is not dangerous provided one keeps one's wits about them. It is not a place I would wander around drunk, that would be like inviting trouble, but I can tell you now, I would pick this place to walk at night above many places in London or Los Angeles that I could mention. Last night the area was very busy, loads of freelancers about, lots of bustling bars and what looked like makeshift night cubs. It is very seedy and about as low down in the local eco system as you can get, but it adds to the charm of the place. There were many girls of questionable maturity, loads of wanabee pimps, taxi touts, and other low life in abundance. I was wandering around alone, like I have done many times before. Stick to the main roads, don't go there drunk and don't flash your cash and you should have no problems. It is an alternative and very seedy option to consider, if you want to try something completely different from the closeted comfort of a girlie bar, or the civilized and commercial set up around Mango Square.

M[/QUOTE]Sounds like my kind of place actually. LOL! Any non-short time hotels around there to recommend? I had planned to do strictly the DIA thing on my upcoming trip but the rough edge of what you described appeals to me as well. The Parklane may be my top option right now but only because it sounds like a hassle-free place right next to Ayala. Any other hassle-free place you'd recommend for a week, Mortman?

Parklane isn't anywhere near Colon, or even Mango bars.

Mercedes is a landmark hotel downtown near Colon. If you grow weary of DIA or even Mango I recommend trolling around the downtown Colon malls or E-mall (about halfway).

Our Place. I think that is the expat bar of preference downtown. Old timers may remember Eddies Log cabin.

X.

[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1112322]Sounds like my kind of place actually. LOL! Any non-short time hotels around there to recommend? I had planned to do strictly the DIA thing on my upcoming trip but the rough edge of what you described appeals to me as well. The Parklane may be my top option right now but only because it sounds like a hassle-free place right next to Ayala. Any other hassle-free place you'd recommend for a week, Mortman?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1112322]Sounds like my kind of place actually. LOL! Any non-short time hotels around there to recommend? I had planned to do strictly the DIA thing on my upcoming trip but the rough edge of what you described appeals to me as well. The Parklane may be my top option right now but only because it sounds like a hassle-free place right next to Ayala. Any other hassle-free place you'd recommend for a week, Mortman?[/QUOTE]SOGO Hotel not far across Hotel Mercedes. But I know there are more in this area. You just need to look around.

MORTMAN is right, Colon is not a dangerous place, you just need to be very straight and watch out.

M [/QUOTE] It was nearly 1am so I decided to go for a wander around the area. Now IMHO the Colon Street area at night is not dangerous provided one keeps one's wits about them. It is not a place I would wander around drunk, that would be like inviting trouble, but I can tell you now, I would pick this place to walk at night above many places in London or Los Angeles that I could mention. Last night the area was very busy, loads of freelancers about, lots of bustling bars and what looked like makeshift night cubs. It is very seedy and about as low down in the local eco system as you can get, but it adds to the charm of the place. There were many girls of questionable maturity, loads of wanabee pimps, taxi touts, and other low life in abundance. I was wandering around alone, like I have done many times before. Stick to the main roads, don't go there drunk and don't flash your cash and you should have no problems. It is an alternative and very seedy option to consider, if you want to try something completely different from the closeted comfort of a girlie bar, or the civilized and commercial set up around Mango Square.

M[/QUOTE]

I hang out in Colon regularly, and I agree. It's not as dangerous as people think. I don't get drunk, I don't flash cash, I don't antagonize people, and I stay alert.

Well I have been with my regular gf Daisy and her two kids since Tuesday. I am staying at the Montebello behind Country Mall. I booked this hotel because of the huge swimming pool here for the kids and the sprawling grounds that they can play around in, relative safely.

Daisy is very liberal minded woman and as you will see from my previous posts, she allows me to go off with younger girls whenever I feel the need (Daisy is 32) and she will even help to negotiate on my behalf, with girls that we see when out and about. However I was growing tired of having the kids around. They spend all day watching the large flat screen LCD TV in the hotel room because they do not have TV at home and they have used the pool but not very much. I just feel like I needed a break on my own and I wanted to bring a girl back for the whole night rather than using a short time hotel.

To the other poster who enquired about short time hotels in the Colon Street area, the Sogo is probably the most well known, it is very safe and actually very clean.

Anyway I told Daisy I had to leave Cebu unexpectedly on business, I gave her 5000 plus her bus fare back to Moalboal. I felt like a complete bastard when the kids starting crying because they had to go back home. Daisy told me that they were crying because they will miss me very much. Now being the cynical guy that I am, I was wondering to myself about the tears? Could it be because they are going back to a tin shack called home, with no TV or refridgerator and leaving the relative luxury of a nice hotel with all its comforts and amenities? Or were they crying because they will genuinely love me and miss me. Who knows, maybe it is a bit of both, I will let you fellow mongers decide on that one!

Anyway I paid for a taxi for them to get to the South Bus Terminal took them for a final Jolibees (yuk) and waved them goodbye from the Country Mall as they set off in a taxi. As soon as they were gone I decided to get a cold beer from the expat bar in Country Mall and I sat outside enjoying watching the world go by and trying to get over my sudden attack of guilt.

I had only been there about 20 minutes when I caught the eye of two shop girls no more than a stones throw from the bar. They were looking bored and standing outside the shop waiting for customers. Both girls made direct eye contact with me, smiled and looked away shyly as if they were doing something very naughty. I always find that very alluring and within no time at all I could feel a familiar stirring in my trousers. I decided to take the plunge and left my drnk on the table to go over and chat. Both girls were aged 18 and I homed in on the the first that I thought was the cutest, tough to be honest there was little to differentiate in terms of beauty, they were both stunners. Anyway the first girl told me she already had a Pinoy boyfriend after I asked her what time she was finishing, so I moved my attention to the second girl. Now in my country if I had done this I would have been told to "F*K OFF by the second girl in no uncertain terms, since I was now using her as a last resort. But she was completely unfazed, and we engaged in some flirtatious idle chit chat for a few minutes. She agreed to meet me after work at 8pm. Both girls were aged 18 and my girl had just had her 18th birthday in December.

I headed back to the hotel for a few hours returning to the shop at dead on 8 freshly showered, shaved and ready for action. We went off to a local barbecue place, where she had the usual rice and chicken and I had fresh fish grilled over the barbecue. Within the hour we were heading back to the hotel, as I wanted to show her the swimming pool.

We went to the room and started to embrace as soon as the door had closed. She was a tiny girl, probably about 4'10 with a lovely petite body. I unbuttoned her jeans and began pushing my hands down her panties and she did not resist at all.

Now since I already knew she had been working since 8am I suggested she go shower and gave her a towel and pushed her towards the bathroom. I wanted a clean body to kiss and I did not dare think how some of those crevices might smell after a whole day at work without being washed. She shut the bathroom door and disappeared for about 30 minutes, emerging still wet in a wrapped towel.

Well I am not going into too many details here, but we had the most fantastic session that lasted about one and a half hours. I finally rolled off her, both of us sweating from the frantic activity having tried half a dozen positions before I had exploded inside her.

We rested in a close embrace for about 20 minutes before she starting kiising my nipples and sucking them hard. She was clearly ready for more and I gallantly responded with a further 30 minute session, but I was unable to finish with another climax. We then dressed, went to the hotel bar for a few drinks before retiring to sleep. She held me in a warm embrace most of the night, interspaced with hand holding and soft gentle kisses. In terms of real GFE this was about as close as it comes to perfection.

We had breakfast together this morning and during breakfast I told her I wanted to give her a gift as she is paid very little in the shop (120 pesos per day for 10-12 hours per day) and she did not even have her own cell phone. Money had not even been discussed up until this stage and only when I initiated the topic. I told her I was giving her a choice of gifts, either 1500 pesos or a new camera cell phone. She chose the phone and we returned to the room where I gave her the gift. Actually I had brought half a dozen of these from the UK, they always go down well as gifts and the supermarkets often sell them at hugely discounted rates. These LG cell phones with a VGA camera cost me £12 or about $18, so for a night of passion they work out as a very good deal indeed and the girls are always delighted.

Anyway she left in good spirits expecting to see me again after work today. To be honest I have about half a dozen cute DIA girls keep texting me to meet this afternoon and I am sat in the hotel lobby typing this post and wondering who to meet. Do I stick with the tried and tested local shop girl or do I go for something new.

Funnily enough I have just recieved a text as I am typing, I showed it t the other guy who is sat here with me and we both had a good laugh. The text reads "Hi this is * from DIA. Would you like to meet today for a threesome?"

The Philippines does make decision making the most demanding of all my activities here!

[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1112322]Sounds like my kind of place actually. LOL! Any non-short time hotels around there to recommend? I had planned to do strictly the DIA thing on my upcoming trip but the rough edge of what you described appeals to me as well. The Parklane may be my top option right now but only because it sounds like a hassle-free place right next to Ayala. Any other hassle-free place you'd recommend for a week, Mortman?[/QUOTE]GG.

It is a difficult question to answer, I am not sure what you mean by hassle free, as every Cebu hotel I have ever stayed in could be described as hassle free. If you mean convenience to Ayalla Mall, then yes Parklane or the Marriot is well located, but Ayalla is not the centre of the universe and if you are primarily meeting DIA girls, then any hotel in Cebu City is well located. You also get many DIA girls in Lap Lapu and you may at the very least have to pay their jeepney fare if you expect them to travel over to Cebu City to meet you.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1108158]Sprite: This is not a scam. This is typical of how pinay operate. They meet foreigner in public places (mall, bars) , spend 2-3 hours in his room, and ask / hint / beg for money. Sometimes they ask for ridiculously large amounts (or even small amounts). Sometimes they discuss their 'need' in advance in the bar or mall. I've had them ask for 20, 000 pesos. 200 pesos, and even 'up to you sir as I'm desprat to pay me rent'.

Now to the 1500. That's fine. If you were just a few blocks up Mango St at the gogo bars, you would have paid about the same amount (p1700) for a bargirl who would stay LT and boink you twice. But those aren't freelancers. On the other hand, most Cebuanas are happy with 500 for a few hours work, and 1000 for LT. In fact, I've never had a freelancer complain when I hand her 500 for a few hours work, nor have they balked in the mall or bar when discussing the amount in advance.

You might want to try the gogo bars. Also try the disco at Sunflower, on Thurs-Sat night it is jumpin' with talent. Also, Ayala and Robinson's mall are rich with pickups. [/QUOTE]Yes it's not a "scam" it's pretty much par for the course for Mango Square pick ups. The smart thing to have done would be to say OK you can have 500P now if you want to leave or you ca stay until xxxx and get 1000P / 1500P.

She's really just trying to get a LT rate for ST work.

Maybe I'm not as devilishly handsome / skilled an operator as WC but in my experience 500P ST / 1000P LT is now the base rate for pretty average girls in Cebu city, even average girls will shoot for more and those who are or consider themselves to be outstanding are definitely holding out for more. At least with me.

Met up with an old 18 year old DIA contact I met last year and posted about. She had been a virgin when I met her last year, she was the one that I panicked about when the condom split inside her and I discharged a gallons worth of tadpoles into her. She was so keen to meet me, she paid for a taxi from Talisay which I reimbursed her. It is the first time I have had a non pro willing to do that without the usual "I have no money for the fare" routine. She arrived at the Country Mall at about 6pm, I had to be very careful as the shop girl was lurking close by, the one I posted about the other day.

Anyway I was greeted with what can only be described as a very chubby cute monster, all happy to see me. She told me she had found work as a domestic helper but I think she must have spent every peso she earned, eating in Jolibees. I initially thought about sending her straight home, but I felt that would have been cruel and unkind. So I did what any self respecting monger would do, I took her back to my hotel so she could meet Mr Todger for the second time. We got chatting on the way back and she told me she had not had a guy since we first met, so it turns out I am the first and second person she has had sex with in a year. It is no surprise since she would not be an instant hit with most guys, but I have a charitable heart and like to help out a girl in need.

I cannot describe the experience because it was not very pleasant, but I closed my eyes and thought of England. Interestingly enough she was quite happy to have sex bareback and did not even think to ask about a condom. I did the honourable thing but it would not even have entered her head. We stayed about one hour, I gave her 1000 pesos plus 600 to cover her return fare in a taxi. Not a very memorable experience and I will not be repeating it.

I was so worn out last night and in need of some personal space, I told my shop girl that I was not feeling well. I had an enjoyable evening sitting at the bar in my hotel enjoying a few cold beers and chatting to some other guys.

Today I went to Ayall, it is by far the busiest I have ever seen it due to Sinulog. I got out of the taxi at one of the main entrances, to be greeted by a crowd of people at least twenty persons deep all trying to get inside. It was raining and I thought to myself "f*k that and walked around the corner, down the ramp and into the supermarket. No queue, straight in and through to the inside of Ayalla. Huge crowds everywhere, I tried walking past Jolibees that had a huge crowd outside watching some buffoon in a jolibee outfit trying to breakdance badly.

Quite a few religious stands have been set up, for the Sinulog festival with some very cute nuns working there. Now that would be a serious challenge for someone!

Ayalla today is a target rich environment lots of girls making eye contact and smiling. Actually some of my best Mall conquests have been girls that did not smile at me or make eye contact and involved me approaching them with some bullshit question to start a conversation. I didn't bother too much as I have my cutie from the shop meeting me tonight at 8pm. If I use all my artillery shells this afternoon, I won't be able to perform as well as I hope tonight. Guess it is my age.

Had a fairly decent chicken broth from Pastrio on the terrace and spent half an hour watching eye candy in copious amounts, walking by. A few obvious pros were there today, they tend to stand around the top of the escalators where the footfall is high and potential victims are likely to pass by.

Mortman

I've tried. But have thus far been unable to see where I might be able to purchase ferry tickets online. I can RESERVE tickets online. But these are supposed to be paid for and picked up 48 hours before I board. But I am not in Cebu yet. So I can't pick up the tickets! I'm hoping there's a site where I can buy an e-ticket online.

[QUOTE=Mortman; 1112942]Anyway I was greeted with what can only be described as a very chubby cute monster, all happy to see me.

Quite a few religious stands have been set up, for the Sinulog festival with some very cute nuns working there. Now that would be a serious challenge for someone!

Mortman[/QUOTE]M.

Shame we did not catch up but glad you took a chubby for the team. I like variety but not that 'wild' sort.

As for nuns or whatever the younger ones are called, there were a few around Ayala last week, a stall near to near Bos Coffee Shop. Nice smile and it did cross my mind to wander over and buy something but then I had a date to see but would have a fun time chatting her up and seeing how far one could get.

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1113065]M.

Shame we did not catch up but glad you took a chubby for the team. I like variety but not that 'wild' sort.

As for nuns or whatever the younger ones are called, there were a few around Ayala last week, a stall near to near Bos Coffee Shop. Nice smile and it did cross my mind to wander over and buy something but then I had a date to see but would have a fun time chatting her up and seeing how far one could get. [/QUOTE]It might be my Catholic School upbringing. But the idea of you posting photos of a tidy young nun with a studded leather collar on her neck having recently been three holed. Is strangely exciting.

After my stint down at Ayalla yesterday I headed back to my hotel. I had arranged to meet my shop girl at 8pm when she finished work. However whilst at Ayalla yesterday a group of girls all late teens and early 20's caught my eye as I was wandering round the first floor on my way out to catch a taxi home. Several made eye contact and I know it sounds corny but I just blurted out "wow you are all very cute I want to take you all home" The silly comment was well received with the girls responding with shy giggles and flirtatious looks. Anyway one girl in particular caught my eye, her name was Sheila and I focused my conversation towards her. Long and short of it is that I got her number and arranged for a date that evening. She was 18, really tiny with the slimmest figure I have yet seen on a girl of that age. I would later regret not sticking to my original plans as I had posted yesterday, but sometimes it is like a child being let loose in a candy store with a fist full of money, but being told by his parents "don't eat anything you are having dinner when you get home"

It was only when I got over my initial triumphant feeling of euphoria at having scored again that I realised I now had two dates for that night. I texted the Ayalla girl back and asked if we could meet late at 11pm as I had a business meeting. She agreed and I thought that would give me time to take the shop girl out for food and a drink, tell her I am tired and need to go back to my hotel alone and then see the Ayalla girl.

I met my shop girl at 8pm we went for food and then I took her to see Gulliver's Travels. Complete pile of crap with acting to match but she seemed to enjoy it. As we came out of the cinema at just after 10pm, I made my excuses and sent her home in a taxi. The other girl had been texting me all night and I would respond when opportune moments would arise. I get back to my hotel it is now about 11pm and I decide to call the Ayalla girl so I know where to meet her. WTF the phone was switched off and despite several attempts at calling and texting I got nothing back.

As my buddy from ISG quite rightly pointed out, a bird in the hand is worth two in the Bush, or as I was thinking last night a Bush in the hand is worth more than anything! It served me right for being selfish and greedy. Anyway I finally got hold of the Ayalla girl at 11. 30pm, I was feeling tired and she was not in any mood to come out so late. So we arranged to meet the following day at Robinsons, she didn't give any explanation why she had switched off her phone and by then I didn't care.

Met her at 2pm today, I received about 50 texts from her during the morning, most if not all of them complete rubbish. Things like "good morning sir did you eat breakfast" or "how is your day"? I am used to this kind of banal text chit chat but it still irritates me, especially when you don't respond and they then think you are angry because you haven't replied. It almost holds you to being hostage to a text conversation that you don't want to be part of. After being here for several years now I still am amazed how these girls will have full blown conversations about nothing at all via text messaging. I swear that my right thumb seems to increase in girth by a few centimetres after each visit here, shame that doesent happen to my penis it would be the size of a oak tree by now.

I arrived late at Robinsons, I don't ever set off from my hotel now unless I know the girl I am meeting is at the venue waiting for me. She scolded me for being 30 minutes late for our meeting as I arrived, even though I knew she had only been waiting ten minutes herself. We had some disgusting slops down in the basement of Robinsons and then she agreed to come back to my hotel. During our conversation over the slops, it turns out she had her first foreigner boyfriend at the age of 14 and has had a total of five foreigners before she reached the age of 18.

Anyway as we headed upstairs to grab a taxi she entwined her arm around mine and held my hand tenderly, always a good early indication. On the way back to the hotel I had to tell the taxi driver NOT to go through the Country Mall as they normally do, in order to avoid the eyes of my shop girl who may have been around.

Back in the room this was one hot girl, I swear to god she was so small she could have fit the cheeks of her ass inside the palms of my hands. We got down to business straight away and I asked her to suck me. She giggled nervously and said "I don't know how to do that" WTF 5 foreigner boyfriends, I can't believe that. We spent about 20 minutes engaged in foreplay before she spread her legs, and with her tiny arms grabbing me and pulling me towards her, begging me to go inside her. I obliged and she shouted "push harder please push harder" Being the obliging chap that I am, I pushed as hard as I could, with her groaning louder and louder until I could not hold back myself any longer. I continued for about another ten minutes after climaxing, as she had by now wrapped her legs around me, and was pulsating her hips up and down with me still hard inside her. By now I had had enough and I climbed off, glad to have my feet back on solid ground. She seemed a bit disappointed that I was finished and went off into the bathroom to clean up. Well since I am the paying customer, I thought to myself, I don't have to feel guilty about not satisfying her a 100.

I gave her 1000 pesos as she came out of the bathroom with the towel round her and asked her to sit on the edge of the bed. I asked her permission and took a photo of her, one only and not in any way sexual or pornographic. As she was getting dressed she begged me to delete the photo and I told her not to worry I would not send it anywhere. She finished getting ready and I escorted her down through the back of the hotel and off she went. I could tell she was not happy with me as she walked away.

I got about 15 texts from her later this afternoon begging me to delete the photo that I had taken of her. I told her I had already done so to give her peace of mind, but of course I still have it safe. I have never posted photos on a public forum like ISG and I have only kept it as a personal memento so she really has nothing to fear from me. I can't blame her for being concerned I know there are some low lifes out there who would not think twice about betraying a girls trust.

I usually use Oceanjet (oceanjet. Net) when I go to Tagbilaran, but I've never tried to buy online, nor reserve a seat. I just go to Pier 1, buy the ticket and get on the boat. I don't think you need a reserved seat unless you're going during a very busy time. X.

[QUOTE=Suwon;1113014]I've tried. But have thus far been unable to see where I might be able to purchase ferry tickets online. I can RESERVE tickets online. But these are supposed to be paid for and picked up 48 hours before I board. But I am not in Cebu yet. So I can't pick up the tickets! I'm hoping there's a site where I can buy an e-ticket online.[/QUOTE]

Great report Mortman. Regarding texting. I had so much texts in my mobile one time that it crashed. No joke. I had like more than 7000 text messages PLUS countless images and videos during my stay in Manila. I had to re-set the whole mobile into factory-setting in NOKIA shop. Before I could use it again.

All part of the game, back home my mobile is sitting idle with no text message at all from anyone..better to have senseless messages than nothing at all :)

Good luck

[QUOTE=Mortman;1113336]but sometimes it is like a child being let loose in a candy store with a fist full of money, but being told by his parents "don't eat anything you are having dinner when you get home" .[/QUOTE]I get the same feeling, my problem is how to fit them all in and be horny / ready when Cebu favourite returns from school ;) As well making sure none come and say hi while walking around Ayala. But it is all part of the fun of our hobby I suppose.

Ever tried texting with your dick M. May work but you will likely be showing a police officer (hopefully not a bakla one) how you do it as well :p:

[QUOTE=Mortman; 1113336]During our conversation over the slops, it turns out she had her first foreigner boyfriend at the age of 14 and has had a total of five foreigners before she reached the age of 18.

We got down to business straight away and I asked her to suck me. She giggled nervously and said "I don't know how to do that" WTF 5 foreigner boyfriends, I can't believe that. [/QUOTE]Well likely the ex boyfriends were French or something like that who just went for the 'wham bang thank you ma'am approach. Nothing would surprise me as I have met some girls all lost their cherry to westerner at a young age and have no idea of the basic. The guys please themselves for about 1 minute and she thinks that is good sex. Until I show her differently and change her wardrobe ;)

Suwon. You have given me an idea for my next trip :eek:

[QUOTE=Suwon;1113014]I've tried. But have thus far been unable to see where I might be able to purchase ferry tickets online. I can RESERVE tickets online. But these are supposed to be paid for and picked up 48 hours before I board. But I am not in Cebu yet. So I can't pick up the tickets! I'm hoping there's a site where I can buy an e-ticket online.[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.bohol.ph/article107.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger;1113400]... Well likely the ex boyfriends were French or something like that who just went for the 'wham bang thank you ma'am approach...[/QUOTE]
What a clever remark! :rolleyes: This unprovoked (and totally unnecessary) French-bashing just shows how uncultured you are, dude! Have you heard about the Marquis de Sade? Have you noticed that many words in English related to love, sex and debauchery (among other matters such as fashion and haute cuisine, to name just a few) are of French origin? Even kissing is qualified as French when done romantically or sexually by lovers! There must be a reason, no?

He is a Brit and just jelous about all the truths you noted.

Mort, Keep it coming. I wish I could writte like you.

[QUOTE=Goyave;1113442]Even kissing is qualified as French when done romantically or sexually by lovers! There must be a reason, no?[/QUOTE]And ass fucking is qualified as Greek. All this is just way beyond me.

[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1113675]And ass fucking is qualified as Greek. All this is just way beyond me.[/QUOTE]There's also a reason for this: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Greece[/url]

Thanks for the compliments guys, glad you have enjoyed my reports. I am heading to CDO so check out the 'Other Areas' thread later this week. AND lets not get into a flaming war about nationalities, at the end of the day we are all here to exchange information about SEX in Cebu!

I headed over to Ayalla yesterday evening and stopped at the Park Lane Hotel on the way to enquire about rates. I had a good wander around the hotel, checked out the pool and the gym and the lobby and dining room. They want 3700 for a standard room and though I like the hotel very much, it is slap bang in the middle of one of the worst junctions in Cebu City with traffic to match. Walking anywhere from this place is a nightmare and even though it is a stones throw from Ayalla, you really do take your life in your hands if you try to make it there as a pedestrian. As a hotel in its own right, it aspires to be a Marriot and it very nearly achieves it, but at almost half the price of the Marriot's rates. It is well located if you don't mind making short hops by taxi, but I like to be able to take a stroll when I feel like it and in this respect the Marriot wins hands down.

I had some food at Ayalla and then headed for the terraces to look for another brief loving relationship. I had only been there about a minute when a cute woman walked past, obviously a pro and on the prowl by the way she flashed me a knowing smile. I responded with my own grin and carried on walking to look over the balcony. Now I had my back to the girl and she had already walked past me in the opposite direction but I just knew she would return. I decided to ignore the urge to look round to see where she had gone and sure enough within a minute or two she had returned to look over the balcony a few feet away from me. I just pretended to ignore her, just as a bit of amusement to see what would happen. Within another two minutes I felt a nudge on my arm to find her arm outstretched with a packet of Menthol Marlboros in her hand, asking me for a light.

We got chatting and she turned out to be aged 26, a pretty face but what looked like a small beer belly around her waist. Turns out she has a 3 year old son and comes from Lapu Lapu. Now after my session that afternoon I was not in the mood for more sex, but she was very chatty and outgoing and quite pleasant company. I offered to buy her a drink and we went to a nearby bar on the terrace for a couple of cold beers. I tried a new beer last night called Manila, I had two bottles and could hardly sit on my bar stool after that. Must be quite strong beer, either that or she had slipped a rohypnol into my drink when I wasn't looking.

We had an interesting conversation and I made it clear right at the beginning that I was not interested in sex. She told me that she really liked me and that she would like to come to my hotel with me just for company. Well I guess she thought a nice hotel room and a good breakfast beats going home to a rented room in a shabby shared house.

Now against my better judgement I allowed her to come back, I was sure I did not want sex and I told her under no condition would I be paying for sex, but she still seemed keen to come back. Anyway once in the room, we shower (separately) have a beer on the balcony and end up in bed watching TV.

Now I was genuinely tired, certainly not in the mood for sex at all and just as I felt I was about to nod off, she started stoking my chest and nipples. I felt that familiar and uncontrollable stirring in my loins and she sensed I was excited and began sucking my nipples feverishly, moving excitedly down towards my groin. She took my rock hard penis in her mouth and began what can only be described as an expert blow job, deep throating me and then alternating by pulling me out and teasing me with the tip of her tongue exploring every tiny nook and cranny on the head of my penis.

She then deftly climbed astride me and said "condom, condom please" Now I didn't have any condoms with me in the room and I had deliberately not bought any because I had not planned to have sex. Now even though I was very turned on with all the attention she was giving me with her tongue and mouth, I was still not in the mood for sex, though I must admit I could have laid there I the bed all night and let her continue with her mouth.

She then grabbed my cock in her hands and began guiding it towards her pussy. I pushed her away and said "No" She began pleading with me saying "please I want to fuck please" and I replied "I don't have a condom" That didn't put her off at all and she said "Its OK" before grabbing my cock again. She was just about to mount me when I pushed her away a second time. Now guys I don't want to start all the old debates again about condon v bareback, to be honest I indulge in bareback frequently but under no circumstances would I do that with an Ayalla pro, that would be too risky.

Well guys you may be surprised when I tell you she started crying straight after my second rejection and carried on begging me for sex. I am sat there lying in bed thinking WTF this is unreal and it was the first time in my life this has ever happened to me. She carried on pleading and when I told her I was scared of catching a disease, she declared "I am clean please fuck me" in between sobs.

I told her to go to sleep and after me rejecting further pleas I pushed her to one side where we both eventually drifted off, with me snoring loudly as a result of a cold that I have had for the last few days. I woke her up at 7. 30am this morning for breakfast, I needed to get her away not too late as I had to pack after breakfast and check out ready for my flight to CDO early this afternoon. As soon as I woke her up and she had come round, we began a repetition of last night's performance. First she began touching me in a way she knew was going to get me excited, then we had the bareback oral and then more pleading for sex. I told her to make me climax with oral and I would pay her, so she obligingly began deep throating me again, whilst expertly massaging my prostate. As I guess is the same with many other guys, early morning sex is quite a turn on for me and in no time I erupted with what seemed like a gallon of fluid over her mouth and lips, which began dripping all over my prone body. I ushered her quickly off to the bathroom, followed her in and cleaned myself up in the sink.

We both got dressed and before we went down for breakfast she asked me for 1500. I told her politely but firmly "no, I will pay you 1000 and your taxi fare" and I gave her 1100 there and then. She didn't protest and we went off for a very decent breakfast together before I got the front desk to call her a cab and sent her on her way.

Cebu has been interesting this week but the weather has been terrible. Apart from one day, it has been raining nearly every day and when it hasn't been raining it has been cloudy and overcast. I hope Cagayan De Oro has some nicer weather, I would like at least a couple of days relaxing by the side of a nice pool. I have booked my usual hotel in CDO, the Marco in Cugman which comes with a fully equipped professional gym and huge pool. If the weather is bad when I arrive, I may decide to head downtown and stay in a more convenient mongering location if the swimming seems to be unlikely because of the weather. I had surgery over Christmas and I am keen to get myself back into fitness. The Doc told me to wait a full month before attempting any serious excercise and I just assumed sexual activity was ok. I am keen to get back to the gym before my ever expanding waistline starts to make me look pregnant.

Just about to board my flight to CDO

Mortman

[QUOTE=Mortman;1113692]Now I was genuinely tired, certainly not in the mood for sex at all and just as I felt I was about to nod off, she started stoking my chest and nipples. I felt that familiar and uncontrollable stirring in my loins and she sensed I was excited and began sucking my nipples feverishly, moving excitedly down towards my groin. She took my rock hard penis in her mouth and began what can only be described as an expert blow job, deep throating me and then alternating by pulling me out and teasing me with the tip of her tongue exploring every tiny nook and cranny on the head of my penis.[/QUOTE]Ain't life grand? Like you, I am no superman. So after a lot of sex in a short time frame I start to lose the desire. I usually go out to the bars anyway, just for a drink. I tell the girls that come by,"not tonight sugar, I am low on power". But once in a while the right girl comes along who can jump start my libido by kissing me and rubbing me in the right way. I love it when I hear them say "you got the power" and little Natty has risen once again.

[QUOTE=Goyave;1113442]What a clever remark! :rolleyes: This unprovoked (and totally unnecessary) French-bashing just shows how uncultured you are, dude! Have you heard about the Marquis de Sade? Have you noticed that many words in English related to love, sex and debauchery (among other matters such as fashion and haute cuisine, to name just a few) are of French origin? Even kissing is qualified as French when done romantically or sexually by lovers! There must be a reason, no?[/QUOTE]ROFLMAO.

Am told I am worse than the Marquis and Caligula. Some people take life too seriously.

And am also Greek Redman don't forget that LOL

Mort. My belly is the same and now am dieting but still regardless of gut size am still Brad Pitt in PI. Must be my charm and humour LOL

[QUOTE=Mortman; 1113336]nothing back.

Met her at 2pm today, I received about 50 texts from her during the morning, most if not all of them complete rubbish. Things like "good morning sir did you eat breakfast" or "how is your day"? I am used to this kind of banal text chit chat but it still irritates me, especially when you don't respond and they then think you are angry because you haven't replied. It almost holds you to being hostage to a text conversation that you don't want to be part of. After being here for several years now I still am amazed how these girls will have full blown conversations about nothing at all via text messaging. I swear that my right thumb seems to increase in girth by a few centimetres after each visit here, shame that doesent happen to my penis it would be the size of a oak tree by now.

[/QUOTE]Having just had a weekend in Manila and having gone thru P600 in texts I know exactly what you mean. Madly irritating inane conversations that go nowhere, and even if you reply with "I'm busy" they will reply " busy doing what ". I think If I had replied " am busy fucking your sister" she would have replied " how was it ". Boring boring boring texts.

You wake up and theres 100 texts from yesterdays conquest saying "how are you" " did you die from hunger " etcetc. And the famous "why don't you reply "and " did you forget me ". You look at the time of the messages and realise that they were being sent from 5am onwards, while you were happily in the arms of last nights honey. These girls need a life but sadly, their life is text and tv and telenovas. These are DIA girls we happily fuck and forget.

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger;1113788]... Some people take life too seriously...[/QUOTE]
Yeah, yeah! So, it should be perfectly fine for you to bash a whole nation with a stupid remark based on nothing, but when someone reacts and demonstrates how unfounded your comment was, your opponent "takes life too seriously"? Next time, just insult your own countrymen with the same "subtlety" and we'll see if they appreciate your "humour"! Humour is also a word of French origin by the way, so, as a Frenchman, I should be a connoisseur in this matter too, but I fail to find any "humour" in your earlier comment...

Anyway... Enough with the off-topic posts in this thread, at least for me!

Sorry guys for the inconvenience, and thank you Mortman and others who have posted many very interesting (and well-written) field reports here. Keep up the good work!

goyave, there is a well like member of the board from davao who is of french ansestory. i think you might not know that these two have words about what type of grape juice to drink and stuff like blood pudding that they get from cows in afica. saw it on national geographic.

now you are dead on about morts post.

i, even though a gringo of good paddy stock do like my greek. as a famous americian named frank zappa said. [ tasty little turd] that is to much greek for me. but i am in the crowd of it is just a little mud and it will wash off.

hope you take this as it is meant. love red

I hope this is the correct threat to post this question. I am doing some cost of living comparisons and would like to have some input regarding what members feel is the best place to retire. Cebu or Subic Bay. I know that my income will have an impact. I currently have SS benefits and have filed two disability claims. I am also a vet and have filed for PTSD, hearing loss and tenitus (ringing in my ears). Once I start receiving my VA and disability I should be pretty close if not over 2000. 00 monthly income.

You can live will there on 2K. The vets will know best for vet hosipatals

[QUOTE=Goyave; 1113817]Yeah, yeah! So, it should be perfectly fine for you to bash a whole nation with a stupid remark based on nothing, but when someone reacts and demonstrates how unfounded your comment was, your opponent "takes life too seriously"? Next time, just insult your own countrymen with the same "subtlety" and we'll see if they appreciate your "humour"! Humour is also a word of French origin by the way, so, as a Frenchman, I should be a connoisseur in this matter too, but I fail to find any "humour" in your earlier comment.

Anyway. Enough with the off-topic posts in this thread, at least for me!

Sorry guys for the inconvenience, and thank you Mortman and others who have posted many very interesting (and well-written) field reports here. Keep up the good work! [/QUOTE]Tut tut G you should get a life and take more risks and be more laid back.

Remember history....the Brits and Rrench never like each other, never will and the Brits love to wind up the Frenches...just as I am now with you :D

Now if you wish me to list famous British conquests over the French (including recent sporting ones in rugby and the Olympics :)) well I will but this is not the forum (nor does Jackson have the bandwidth!) LOL. In fact I was once asked to google "famous French victories" and press "I feel lucky". Very amusing reply. Try it G see for yourself and then write to Googe's founders and complain am sure they willtake your French defending more seriously than I ever will

As for my comments take them as you want. Those that know me will say I truly don't give a damn as I find it highly amusing that only one Frenchie is defending his nation's wham bang thanjk you ma'am approach to mongering. Life is to short and the French need to chill more IMHO (well you do for sur. Come to Cebu and have fun G much better than trying to get me annoyed as all I do is write more inane FRs back to you. Ask Bopalula.)

This is the Cebu thread so bestget back to Cebu

Still raining so who knows how bad July will be...was bad last year but as RK said could be much worse this year. Well a good excuse to stay in the room and have more games and teach Cebuanas the benefits of the Greek language (not French :eek:)

[QUOTE=Mortman; 1112942]Anyway I was greeted with what can only be described as a very chubby cute monster, all happy to see me.

I cannot describe the experience because it was not very pleasant, but I closed my eyes and thought of England. [/QUOTE]Haven't figured out which was the worst experience, the chubby monster or the thoughts of England.

Ha ha, sorry Mort,

Just having a little fun as I couldn't pass this one up.

FZ

[QUOTE=Boricua;1113840]I should be pretty close if not over 2000. 00 monthly income.[/QUOTE]For $2, 000 US, you could live well in many countries in Asia (except the developed countries like HK or Singapore) and not just here in Phil.

FZ

[QUOTE=SergeantRay;1112572]M[/QUOTE]I hang out in Colon regularly, and I agree. It's not as dangerous as people think. I don't get drunk, I don't flash cash, I don't antagonize people, and I stay alert.[/QUOTE]
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Hmm, Just to get a perspective of this place when I eventually venture here in the middle of the night.

What are the prices here as oppose to the regular hangouts for the average monger.

What will the ST / LT FL rates for the girls here. Also, can you BF the girls from the local bars here?

FZ

[QUOTE=Freezone;1114308]I hang out in Colon regularly, and I agree. It's not as dangerous as people think. I don't get drunk, I don't flash cash, I don't antagonize people, and I stay alert.[/QUOTE]-

Hmm, Just to get a perspective of this place when I eventually venture here in the middle of the night.

What are the prices here as oppose to the regular hangouts for the average monger.

What will the ST / LT FL rates for the girls here. Also, can you BF the girls from the local bars here?

FZ[/QUOTE]I'd go to the Sesame Haus or the bar across the street (Pelaez Street) and talk to the ex-pats there. I wouldn't take out girls from the local bars, which are pretty much dives.

You're better off using Colon as a base to meet local college students and shop girls.

I just had my evaluation for PTSD today and expect to receive some benefits from the VA in a couple of months. I also have a claim in for hearing loss and tinitus. SS Disability is the one that I think will hold me up and keep me from moving as soon as I would like. I really can't decide between Cebu and the Subic Bay area. Subic Bay has some places to monger and I can also go for weekend stays in AC. I've been to Cebu several times. My last visit was this last May and really liked some of the changes that I saw during my short visit. Decisions, Decisions.

[QUOTE=Freezone; 1114306]For $2, 000 US, you could live well in many countries in Asia (except the developed countries like HK or Singapore) and not just here in Phil.

FZ[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Boricua;1114387]I just had my evaluation for PTSD today and expect to receive some benefits from the VA in a couple of months. I also have a claim in for hearing loss and tinitus. SS Disability is the one that I think will hold me up and keep me from moving as soon as I would like. I really can't decide between Cebu and the Subic Bay area. Subic Bay has some places to monger and I can also go for weekend stays in AC. I've been to Cebu several times. My last visit was this last May and really liked some of the changes that I saw during my short visit. Decisions, Decisions.[/QUOTE]Don't decide until you get here.

Spend a week in Cebu again and check it out. I am reading between the lines that you prefer Subic but you want us to give you some good reasons why.

I think if I were in your shoes I might opt for Subic as real estate will be cheaper, transport is cheaper, it is more laid back for a retiree with health issues, and you have options of AC, La Union and even Manila if you want a change of scene. Cheap fares means a weekend in Cebu is also possible now and again.

I'm headed to Cebu for the 1st time next week and will be around for the better part of 3 weeks.

Having read around on the board it seems pretty clear that girl wise things will take care of themselves. Indeed, I reckon after 2 weeks I will get bored of that side of things.

That said I'm also down for hetro-MMF threesomes and other group sex scenarios _

My mind now turns to how I am going to spend the rest of my time. I'd only wanted a trip of say. 10 days, but the flights were so much cheaper by extending my trip that I figured I'd rather put my money into my time on the ground rather than paying jacked up prices for my flight.

Would anybody care to recommend an inexpensive entry level scuba experience?

I've never done it before, and am keen to try it for a few days, but not so keen that I'm willing to drop a lot of cash on it.

Are there any night clubs in Cebu that are western style, dance music focused, stylish clubs?

I mean big dance floor, no overt prostitution, music such as electro, trance, drum & bass etc.

I read something about how trying to drive around the main city is foolhardy.

How about out in the provinces?

Are the roads 1/2 decent?

How much risk is there of getting jacked?

Any ideas or opinions will be appreciated cheers!

[QUOTE=Boricua;1114387]I just had my evaluation for PTSD today and expect to receive some benefits from the VA in a couple of months. I also have a claim in for hearing loss and tinitus. SS Disability is the one that I think will hold me up and keep me from moving as soon as I would like. I really can't decide between Cebu and the Subic Bay area. Subic Bay has some places to monger and I can also go for weekend stays in AC. I've been to Cebu several times. My last visit was this last May and really liked some of the changes that I saw during my short visit. Decisions, Decisions.[/QUOTE]I would think about it carefully. I retired last year but have held off living here since I would be bored shitless after a few months. I took a contract in Kosovo simply because I needed something to do. Believe you me the novelty of sex everyday will soon wear off unless you have a very time consuming hobby or some form of employment or business here to occupy your time. I have met many retirees from the States and Europe who live here and have nothing to do. Most have drink problems since they have nothing to do all day but sit in a bar drinking with other expats. A lot of them will admit to being completely bored with their lives if you get a chance to speak to them.

$2000 a month is not a lot to live off here despite what others may tell you, most decent condos in Cebu that I have seen and that are well located will cost you about $600 per month, plus bills and other living expenses. Of course you can live like the locals do for a fraction of that, but if you want a decent westernized style of living it will cost. My pension is a lot more than that and when I did the sums I realised it was not as cheap as I first anticipated. However I would want to live in very comfortable surroundings and I am not willing to compromise on that, others may be more flexible and adaptable. I am in Cagayan De Oro at the moment and it is far cheaper here than Cebu. I have a friend here who lives in a fully furnished house 5 minutes out of town with a lot of land. His house is very well furnished and comparable to a western home. He pays 11000 pesos rent per month but when you add the cost of air con, cable, internet, power etc etc the total costs are nearly 30, 000 per month. Obviously condos here work out far cheaper than that.

If you are going to live here it would be worth trying to find a long term companion, one that will allow you a certain amout of freedom. Having a local girl you can trust will help you overcome countless difficulties that you will encounter living here, and they make excellent and loyal companions if you treat them well and find the right one.

Retiring out in the Philippines for the sole purpose of mongering will lead to a very lonely and miserable existence in the long run IMHO. Whatever you decide I hope it works out well for you.

Mortman

[QUOTE=Suwon;1113014]I've tried. But have thus far been unable to see where I might be able to purchase ferry tickets online. I can RESERVE tickets online. But these are supposed to be paid for and picked up 48 hours before I board. But I am not in Cebu yet. So I can't pick up the tickets! I'm hoping there's a site where I can buy an e-ticket online.[/QUOTE]Don't worry about it. There are many ferries and operators. They all have ticket agents around the city.

Operators. Ocean Jet, Wessam, Super Cat that have a two hour trip.

[QUOTE=Denkicash; 1114419]I'm headed to Cebu for the 1st time next week and will be around for the better part of 3 weeks.

Having read around on the board it seems pretty clear that girl wise things will take care of themselves. Indeed, I reckon after 2 weeks I will get bored of that side of things.

That said I'm also down for hetro-MMF threesomes and other group sex scenarios _

My mind now turns to how I am going to spend the rest of my time. I'd only wanted a trip of say. 10 days, but the flights were so much cheaper by extending my trip that I figured I'd rather put my money into my time on the ground rather than paying jacked up prices for my flight.

Would anybody care to recommend an inexpensive entry level scuba experience?

I've never done it before, and am keen to try it for a few days, but not so keen that I'm willing to drop a lot of cash on it.

Are there any night clubs in Cebu that are western style, dance music focused, stylish clubs?

I mean big dance floor, no overt prostitution, music such as electro, trance, drum & bass etc.

I read something about how trying to drive around the main city is foolhardy.

How about out in the provinces?

Are the roads 1/2 decent?

How much risk is there of getting jacked?

Any ideas or opinions will be appreciated cheers![/QUOTE]Getting jacked you got to pay attention but fairly safe.

Best scuba to me was moalboal area or go to dumaghette? (spelling?)

Or try mactan but not the best?

Or bohol is close and so is malapascua.

There is music veneus but I forget where.

For scuba go online and look for places or wait till you get there. I do not remember any particular scuba.

But I rate apo island (dumaghette and close to cebu. Moalboal the water is fantastic. And bohol.

The bottom of the list to me is off mactan. But maybe someone has had better expierence there.

Thank you Mortman for your input. Red Kilt has indeed read between the lines on my comments. I guess I am trying to be convinced that Cebu is a better choice. I have been to the Philippines about 10 times. My first trip was to Cebu and have always had a soft spot for Cebu. I do have medical issues and the VA Clinic in Manila would be relatively close. I also understand that there are some VA approved hospitals / Clinics in Subic Bay. I do not drink or smoke but would be lying if I said that mongering was not one of the reasons for my wanting to relocate to the PI. I will tell you that one of my hobbies is to restore violins and violas. I also tinker with vintage stereo systems. I guess I could pursue these interests in the PI. As a young boy, I bread homing pidgeons and other fancy birds. I have checked some websites and have found a number of clubs in the PI. I would love to get back to something like that. I would be most interested in a local lady companion but do not want to be tied down to just one lady. Lastly, I was thinking that I would probably get my VA benefits before my SS disability but I found out this morning that SS has approved my application for disability. Now all I need is to hear from the VA. I expect to receive word from them in the next 30 to 45 days.

[QUOTE=Mortman; 1114449]I would think about it carefully. I retired last year but have held off living here since I would be bored shitless after a few months. I took a contract in Kosovo simply because I needed something to do. Believe you me the novelty of sex everyday will soon wear off unless you have a very time consuming hobby or some form of employment or business here to occupy your time. I have met many retirees from the States and Europe who live here and have nothing to do. Most have drink problems since they have nothing to do all day but sit in a bar drinking with other expats. A lot of them will admit to being completely bored with their lives if you get a chance to speak to them.

$2000 a month is not a lot to live off here despite what others may tell you, most decent condos in Cebu that I have seen and that are well located will cost you about $600 per month, plus bills and other living expenses. Of course you can live like the locals do for a fraction of that, but if you want a decent westernized style of living it will cost. My pension is a lot more than that and when I did the sums I realised it was not as cheap as I first anticipated. However I would want to live in very comfortable surroundings and I am not willing to compromise on that, others may be more flexible and adaptable. I am in Cagayan De Oro at the moment and it is far cheaper here than Cebu. I have a friend here who lives in a fully furnished house 5 minutes out of town with a lot of land. His house is very well furnished and comparable to a western home. He pays 11000 pesos rent per month but when you add the cost of air con, cable, internet, power etc etc the total costs are nearly 30, 000 per month. Obviously condos here work out far cheaper than that.

If you are going to live here it would be worth trying to find a long term companion, one that will allow you a certain amout of freedom. Having a local girl you can trust will help you overcome countless difficulties that you will encounter living here, and they make excellent and loyal companions if you treat them well and find the right one.

Retiring out in the Philippines for the sole purpose of mongering will lead to a very lonely and miserable existence in the long run IMHO. Whatever you decide I hope it works out well for you.

Mortman[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Boricua;1114727]Thank you Mortman for your input. Red Kilt has indeed read between the lines on my comments. I guess I am trying to be convinced that Cebu is a better choice. I have been to the Philippines about 10 times. My first trip was to Cebu and have always had a soft spot for Cebu. I do have medical issues and the VA Clinic in Manila would be relatively close. I also understand that there are some VA approved hospitals / Clinics in Subic Bay. I do not drink or smoke but would be lying if I said that mongering was not one of the reasons for my wanting to relocate to the PI. I will tell you that one of my hobbies is to restore violins and violas. I also tinker with vintage stereo systems. I guess I could pursue these interests in the PI. As a young boy, I bread homing pidgeons and other fancy birds. I have checked some websites and have found a number of clubs in the PI. I would love to get back to something like that. I would be most interested in a local lady companion but do not want to be tied down to just one lady. Lastly, I was thinking that I would probably get my VA benefits before my SS disability but I found out this morning that SS has approved my application for disability. Now all I need is to hear from the VA. I expect to receive word from them in the next 30 to 45 days.[/QUOTE]All of the things that you mentioned you'd like to do are possible Boricua but you will need to be quite pro-active about it.

If you do start repairing musical instruments or vintage stereo systems any fees you charge will need to be way less than what you could expect in the US. You will be doing it for love, not money and this may be OK with you because you did say it was a hobby. My only concern with this hobby indulgence is that in doing so you may well be encroaching on a Filipino repairman's livelihood and there are some who resent competition, especially if the competitor is a foreigner.

Mort's comment about having other things to do besides mongering is extremely important and it seems you have taken that on board. Many guys wishing to relocate heresolely because of the women forget that eventually the dreaded ED will kick in and after a while no amount of Vitamin Viagra or Cialis or Chinese wonder Herbs will help. It WILL happen to you eventually.

Of course, mongering in any form requires money, and having a partner can mean you spend 2X as much as you might spend alone (or certainly some percentage more anyway).

These items that I mentioned are not meant to put you off from coming to the PI. They are just a friendly memory jogger of things to factor in when you finally pull the plug and settle here, wherever it may be.

[QUOTE=MauiDude; 1114725]Best scuba to me was moalboal area or go to dumaghette? (spelling?)

Or try mactan but not the best?

Or bohol is close and so is malapascua.

For scuba go online and look for places or wait till you get there. I do not remember any particular scuba.

But I rate apo island (dumaghette and close to cebu. Moalboal the water is fantastic. And bohol. [/QUOTE]Moalboal is great for diving. (There's also a bit of nightlife but probably best to bring your own companion from Cebu). The Blue Abyss diving centre is well run (by Germans) and the equipment is good. Didn't dive at Dumaguette but passed through it en route to Apo Island. Apo is over-rated in my opinion and the facilities on the island are very rustic. Limited hours electricity via generator and no hot water. There's great snorkelling there but the diving's nothing special. Bohol's good, too (Alona Beach) and only a couple of hours from Cebu via fast ferry.

[QUOTE=Iron Duke;1114767]Moalboal is great for diving. (There's also a bit of nightlife but probably best to bring your own companion from Cebu). The Blue Abyss diving centre is well run (by Germans) and the equipment is good. Didn't dive at Dumaguette but passed through it en route to Apo Island. Apo is over-rated in my opinion and the facilities on the island are very rustic. Limited hours electricity via generator and no hot water. There's great snorkelling there but the diving's nothing special. Bohol's good, too (Alona Beach) and only a couple of hours from Cebu via fast ferry.[/QUOTE]Actually I think if you want the best diving? I have seen is apo reef between mindoro and coron.

But far away from cebu.

And then there is puerto galera.

But nothing will ever compare to tahiti and I heard that fiji is awesome also.

I hear also that analou is good out of batangas? I have snorkeled there and like that but not sure about the diving

Red Kilt.

All good points and that is why I am seriously considering a trial period of maybe 6 months. It's entirely possible that I will decide to spend maybe 6 months in Phils and 6 months stateside. Besides repairs of violins and violas, I play in a community orchestra and really am having a hard time turning my back on that. The 6 month stateside period would probably coincide with the concert season. I do make some money restoring instruments and the money comes in handy. I would probably take one or two projects with me just to keep me busy. I find that the time I spend in the Phils is good for me in that I can do whatever I want when I want and that I tend to forget about things that contribute to stress.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1114734]All of the things that you mentioned you'd like to do are possible Boricua but you will need to be quite pro-active about it.

If you do start repairing musical instruments or vintage stereo systems any fees you charge will need to be way less than what you could expect in the US. You will be doing it for love, not money and this may be OK with you because you did say it was a hobby. My only concern with this hobby indulgence is that in doing so you may well be encroaching on a Filipino repairman's livelihood and there are some who resent competition, especially if the competitor is a foreigner.

Mort's comment about having other things to do besides mongering is extremely important and it seems you have taken that on board. Many guys wishing to relocate heresolely because of the women forget that eventually the dreaded ED will kick in and after a while no amount of Vitamin Viagra or Cialis or Chinese wonder Herbs will help. It WILL happen to you eventually.

Of course, mongering in any form requires money, and having a partner can mean you spend 2X as much as you might spend alone (or certainly some percentage more anyway).

These items that I mentioned are not meant to put you off from coming to the PI. They are just a friendly memory jogger of things to factor in when you finally pull the plug and settle here, wherever it may be. [/QUOTE]

From USA for stays between 21 & 59 days its EZ. 3010p.

There is an office to the left of the passport control desks.

I am here until VD (valentines day)

Anyone want to meet up don't forget my pasulobong.

I arrived in Cebu yesterday and after checking in at my hotel, I went to meet two local girls at SM Mall at about 5. 30pm that had been arranged for me by a friend who brought them. I was raging angry with her as she had told me 5. 30pm by text that she was on her way. I didn't arrive till 6pm and she eventualy showed up at 7pm. She sent me loads of bullshit text messages like "sorry the taxi driver is lost" or "traffic is bad"

Anyway I know I should be well used to this lack of punctuality by now but for some reason I felt really angry and I chewed her off a strip when she arrived. Her two companions that met me were not particularly cute and neither were they virgins as I had been promised, both having admitted to having had sex before with their respective Pinoy boyfriends. This was their first time with a foreigner though, I think tuition fees were looming.

One of the girls had a bit of a jollibee tummy and acne but the other was quite cute. They agreed 500 for a short time which I guess is very reasonable (including 500 for the girl that brought them) and off we went to the Queensland Manor for some fun. I was beginning to calm down after my initial anger as I could see it had slighly unerved the two girls. As we arrived inside the drive in area I paid the taxi driver a 50 peso note for a 40 pesos meter fare. Now I usually always tip the taxi drivers, but this one driver looked over his shoulder at me and said thanks as he pocketed the money just staring at me to get out of the cab. Being in no mood to take prisoners I held out my hand and demanded the change. Yes I know 10 pesos is completely insignificant but it was just the way he had gone about it that made me angry. He threw three one peso coins in my hand and stared at me and I held out my hand once more with the three one peso coins still in the palm of my hand. He then said "No change" so I demanded the 50 pesos note back and found 40 pesos in my pockets gave it to him politely (though I felt like punching him in the face) and got out of the taxi.

I paid the attendant at the Queensland for the short time rate of 235 pesos and for that you get three hours. The hotel staff would only allow a maximum of three people in the room, so the older girl was forced to wait outside. I was told that if I paid double the rate I could have up to 6 people in the room. Fuck that the older girl was ugly anyway. I was feeling very horny and I knew I would be lucky to last three minutes the way I was feeling, let alone three hours. We went inside both girls were behaving very shy and wanted all the lights off. Well those of you that know the Queensland will remember there are no windows in the rooms and having no lights on at all turns the room into a black hole. I insisted on one light and both girls reluctantly undressed, covering their naked breasts with their hands. I actually had to help both girls pull down their panties as they were acting so shy, giggling coyly to each other. All three of us got onto the bed and I started french kissing both girls, playing with their breasts and pussies and getting them both wet. The girls were obviously very inexperienced as they did not initiate anything at all, they simply repsonded to me and what I was doing. They both lay side by side and I lubricated them both with some KY jelly and entered the slim girl. I spent about 5 minutes pumping away and concentrating like hell not to climax as I wanted the second girl. Whilst I was inside her, I was french kissing the girl lying next to her. I then entered her friend and the other one turned away in embarrassment. With a bit of encouragement from me she turned to face me and we engaged in further french kissing as I pumped the ugly one. Eventually I felt myself about to come, pulled out, whipped off the condom and splurted copious amounts of creamy white cum over the girls chests and stomachs as I waved my hard cock over the top them both as they were still lying down. Both girls went for a shower and I washed up in the sink beside them.

Total time in the room was probably 50 minutes and I have to say it was the best therapy for high blood pressure. I was no longer feeling agitated as I had earlier and after happily waving goodbye to the girls I walked off up the road in a much calmer and happier frame of mind. It was only as I was walking along the road I realised I was suppose to meet my shop girl (read my previous posts) at 8. 30pm. It was almost that time now, so I sent her a text saying I was really tired and needed some sleep. I felt a little guilty about that, at least for a few minutes.

[QUOTE=Mortman;1115425]As we arrived inside the drive in area I paid the taxi driver a 50 peso note for a 40 pesos meter fare. Now I usually always tip the taxi drivers, but this one driver looked over his shoulder at me and said thanks as he pocketed the money just staring at me to get out of the cab. Being in no mood to take prisoners I held out my hand and demanded the change. Yes I know 10 pesos is completely insignificant but it was just the way he had gone about it that made me angry. He threw three one peso coins in my hand and stared at me and I held out my hand once more with the three one peso coins still in the palm of my hand. He then said "No change" so I demanded the 50 pesos note back and found 40 pesos in my pockets gave it to him politely (though I felt like punching him in the face) and got out of the taxi.[/QUOTE]We've all been there Mate. All felt that urge. In all my travels throughout Asia Filipino taxi drivers rank as the second worst. Primarily because their cars are old crap and 50% of the guys assume your their new best friend and therfor your money is theirs. The VERY worst taxis in all of Asia tho are in Malaysia. Great cabs in Shanghai, Taipei, Jakarta, Singapore, HK. Sad these guys just don't get it.

Try Plantation Bay on Mactan for SCUBA lessons. Prices are "reasonable".

Also, for water activities you can venture to the area around Marabago Bay Blue Water Resort. You can find lots of "agents" there. I usually go snorkling, I can find a boat for about 2000p or less per day and take about 4 or 5 friends.

Discos try Julianas, will be very crowded, loud, etc. Nasa, most nights not very crowded, music is decent. Pump (1 and 2) moderate crowds, I like this place (2). Sunflower, kind of like Nasa but more people, usually. Also, you can try Loft near IT Park, usually long line to get in, dress code there (no shorts).

It's usually a safe place, watch your wallet. I've never had any problems but it's a good idea to always have a local with you.

[QUOTE=Denkicash; 1114419]I'm headed to Cebu for the 1st time next week and will be around for the better part of 3 weeks.

Having read around on the board it seems pretty clear that girl wise things will take care of themselves. Indeed, I reckon after 2 weeks I will get bored of that side of things.

That said I'm also down for hetro-MMF threesomes and other group sex scenarios _

My mind now turns to how I am going to spend the rest of my time. I'd only wanted a trip of say. 10 days, but the flights were so much cheaper by extending my trip that I figured I'd rather put my money into my time on the ground rather than paying jacked up prices for my flight.

Would anybody care to recommend an inexpensive entry level scuba experience?

I've never done it before, and am keen to try it for a few days, but not so keen that I'm willing to drop a lot of cash on it.

Are there any night clubs in Cebu that are western style, dance music focused, stylish clubs?

I mean big dance floor, no overt prostitution, music such as electro, trance, drum & bass etc.

I read something about how trying to drive around the main city is foolhardy.

How about out in the provinces?

Are the roads 1/2 decent?

How much risk is there of getting jacked?

Any ideas or opinions will be appreciated cheers! [/QUOTE]

As far as driving, I would recommend against it unless you are renting a motorcycle or scooter. If there is an accident, it will always be your fault and you will pay.

[QUOTE=Denkicash; 1114419]I'm headed to Cebu for the 1st time next week and will be around for the better part of 3 weeks.

Having read around on the board it seems pretty clear that girl wise things will take care of themselves. Indeed, I reckon after 2 weeks I will get bored of that side of things.

That said I'm also down for hetro-MMF threesomes and other group sex scenarios _

My mind now turns to how I am going to spend the rest of my time. I'd only wanted a trip of say. 10 days, but the flights were so much cheaper by extending my trip that I figured I'd rather put my money into my time on the ground rather than paying jacked up prices for my flight.

Would anybody care to recommend an inexpensive entry level scuba experience?

I've never done it before, and am keen to try it for a few days, but not so keen that I'm willing to drop a lot of cash on it.

Are there any night clubs in Cebu that are western style, dance music focused, stylish clubs?

I mean big dance floor, no overt prostitution, music such as electro, trance, drum & bass etc.

I read something about how trying to drive around the main city is foolhardy.

How about out in the provinces?

Are the roads 1/2 decent?

How much risk is there of getting jacked?

Any ideas or opinions will be appreciated cheers![/QUOTE]

LOL, yeah, most times I would gladly abandon 10 pesos just to save my life. The AC in most of those taxis will choke a person to death. I think they are trying to poison us with carbon monoxide.

Lately in Cebu I have had bad experiences trying to get to Mactan. It seems some taxi drivers are now having attitudes, not wanting to travel Cebu to Mactan unless they negotiate or even, at times, they have just flat refused me.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1115444]We've all been there Mate. All felt that urge. In all my travels throughout Asia Filipino taxi drivers rank as the second worst. Primarily because their cars are old crap and 50% of the guys assume your their new best friend and therfor your money is theirs. The VERY worst taxis in all of Asia tho are in Malaysia. Great cabs in Shanghai, Taipei, Jakarta, Singapore, HK. Sad these guys just don't get it.[/QUOTE]

31st December. 4pm.

So I am heading towards the exit of Ayala Mall to walk back to the Parklane Hotel and a rather cute MILF catches my eye and says Hello. I return the compliment, ignore her and walk out of the exit. She follows me. I turn round and say, do I know you? She asks where I am going and can she come with me as she has never seen that hotel before.

Normally I would oblige but decided to turn her down for two reasons.

1. I had banged a girl 2 hours previously, and had a date already lined up for that evening, and.

2. Attached to her hand was a small boy aged about 6.

The thought of banging his mother while he sat outside the hotel room or waited in the en suite was an apparition that made me feel uncomfortable.

Cheers guys for the further tips

Have been hitting DIA pretty hard, but am getting the impression that just going for a walk around some malls would be at least as effective.

Feels a bit as if DIA could lead to a situation where I end up spending an inordinate amount of time once I get to Cebu doing SMS / texting (which I hate).

On Sunday I did what any self respecting mad Englishman does, I went for a long walk in the midday sun, or in this case the midday cloud. I was in the mood for some exercise and I guess I must have easily covered 15 kilometres today. I walked from the Waterfront Hotel, to Ayalla, then downtown to Colon Street, and around Jonquera, and back to the Waterfront via Robinsons all in the space of about 5 or 6 hours.

I decided to explore on foot all those places that most foreigners drive by without ever really seeing. I went off into little alleys on Gordoro, Maxilom and Imus Road and found whole communities hidden from view, with thousands of makeshift wooden shacks with tin roofs, crammed together in some sort of orderly chaos. Has anyone ever visited the huge cemetary off Gordoro where whole families live in amongst the crumbling tombstones? It certainly opened up my eyes to places I did not know even existed. I don't think they have seen many foreigners there at all and I had several families introduce me to female members of their families when I told them I was divorced and still single.

Without exception everyone and I really do mean everyone was really friendly, happy and helpful with me and when I got lost a number of times and asked for assistance, nothing was too much trouble for them. These people literally had nothing and yet they asked me for nothing, they were just happy that I stopped to chat to them.

I cannot count the number of times I spent chatting to people and literally dozens of cute young women who were there for the picking. You may not believe this but I was invited into the home of one woman who had two daughters aged 18 and 15 and she spent half an hour trying to hook me up with either one of her daughters. I could have had dozens of dates from my walkabout but I have more than enough to keep me occupied here as it is. Most of the girls did not even have a cell phone so they would give out a number of a friend or family to contact them. Obviously these girls are very poor indeed yet it surprised me that even though they live in wooden shacks with poor sanitary conditions, they seemed to be dressed reasonably well given the conditions they were living in.

All in all a very interesting day, I am glad I did it.

M

[QUOTE=Mortman;1116035]On Sunday I did what any self respecting mad Englishman does, I went for a long walk in the midday sun, or in this case the midday cloud. I was in the mood for some exercise and I guess I must have easily covered 15 kilometres today. I walked from the Waterfront Hotel, to Ayalla, then downtown to Colon Street, and around Jonquera, and back to the Waterfront via Robinsons all in the space of about 5 or 6 hours... snip[/QUOTE]Very nice!

I may have consider such a stroll before (towards the end of my trip) , but having read this I think I'll do it much closer to the start of my trip _

Ta very much for the inspiration!

Sunday night I decided to hook up with my shop girl from Banilad; I wrote a report about her about a week ago, very short and petite, aged 18 and weighing about 40kg. Anyway I asked her if she had a friend that would like to join us for a night out and I arranged to meet them both at my hotel at 9pm. Her friend that turned up was also 18, also cute and slim and much taller than her friend. After leaving some personal stuff in my room and after I finished giving them a tour of the hotel, we all deciede to head off to the Sunflower for some drinks and dancing. We arrived at about 11pm. 100 pesos entrance fee and with a reasonable live band playing. Drinks are a little expensive with a coke or SML coming in at 100 pesos, but then I guess you are paying inflated prices for the band.

I had a great time although we only stayed about 2 hours. I danced with both girls and though nothing had been discussed about what was happening later, the vibes I was getting seemed very positive. Both girls were doing a sexy dance together, you know the way they do it, facing one another and kind of rubbing their bodies together as they gyrate to the music. I was getting hard and excited just watching them both and could feel my pre cum juices oozing out at the thought of what I was going to be doing later.

There was an older guy of about 60 on the dance floor and I could see a few people laughing at him. He had a huge beer gut, couldn't dance at all and was wearing a massive pair of shorts. He was wearing training shoes that clearly seemed to belong to a marathon runner, with white ankle socks pulled as far as they would stretch up his legs (so uncool). However let me tell you that this guy had the hottest girl by far in the place, and she was wearing one of those slinky short figure hugging dresses that showed off her fantastic slim body. People may have been laughing at this guy, but personally I think he was the one laughing. All the way to the bedroom with his hotty.

Anyway we eventually head back to the hotel and I was becoming feverish in anticipation of the excitement to come. Once we settled in the room, we all sat on the bed watching TV. I started kissing my girlfriend but she seemed to hold back a little and gestured to her girlfriend. Seems she was shy of doing anything in front of her friend and would not let me remove her bra or jeans. She whispered "no my friend is here" and I whispered back "don't worry we can all get in to bed together" My girl seemed to relax a little and I put my arms around her friend who was still watching TV and gently pulled her back gently from behind and started kissing her. She responded and we spent a few minutes french kissing with my girl looking on. I then turned my attention back to my girl, kissing her and pushing my hands down the back of her jeans when all of a sudden I touched an all too familiar and unwelcome object. The top of her sanitary towel. Just as I was mentally thinking WTF she whispered "I have mens" I always think it is odd how Filipina and Thai women use the same expression when they are on their period.

Well I know for some guys that menstrual bleeding is not bothersome at all, but for me it is a big turn off. I whispered to her "don't worry I will have your friend", but she whispered back "no she is too shy she won't". I want to know WR's secret, I love threesomes but only with non pro girls and I know WR seems to consistently find this type of girl.

Anyway both girls made it clear that there was to be no sexual activity taking place in my bedroom that night and all my expectations were dashed within the space of a few seconds. I felt really pissed off with the girls though to be honest it was not there fault since they had never promised me anything in the first place. I suggested that they might feel more comfortable back in their own homes and I gave them enough money to amply cover their taxi fare home and sent them on their way. Spent the rest of the night alone with a hard on, too tired to go back out to Mango Square and find a girl

[QUOTE=Cyber Whip;1116001]Lately in Cebu I have had bad experiences trying to get to Mactan. It seems some taxi drivers are now having attitudes, not wanting to travel Cebu to Mactan unless they negotiate or even, at times, they have just flat refused me.[/QUOTE]The taxi driver doesn't want to go to Mactan because its a long trip for him. Its worth it for him to run the meter over. But, he does not have a fare to return, so its not worth it. Offer him p80 over the meter when you get into the taxi. Most will take it. He's not being an asshole, he just can't make a profit for only the trip over as he must drive back.

I met a DIA student last night one of the strangest encounters I have had for a while. We had spent some time chatting on line a few weeks before I arrived in Cebu but I didn't get a chance to see her before I went to Mindanao. When I returned to Cebu at the weekend we started texting one another. Now she asked me by text what I was looking for and I replied just fun nothing serious. After that she did not really want to chat to me again and I left it until yesterday morning before texting her again to try my luck. She texted me saying that she wasn't interested because I was only looking for fun. I then text back saying yes only for fun but if I meet the right girl then who knows? Anyway we had a pretty pointless exchange of text messages all through the day (by midday I had received over 250 text messages from her and other girls) and I was getting to the point of switching off my phone. She then agreed to visit me after her studying at 9pm (she is a college student studying business administration). She then asked me a very strange question by text that afternoon "Have you ever been to Thailand and how many gf's have you had, please answer me honestly?"

Well I knew the implications of admitting to being a frequent visitor to the LOS so I told her I had never travelled there. For guys that do not understand, most Filipinas who have any sort of education, associate Thailand with sex tourism. I can't think why he he he?

Mustering all the honesty I could, I texted her back that I had never been to Thailand and that I had only one regular gf before splitting up a few months ago and I asked her innocently, why she wanted to know? She never told me the reason for asking. Anyway we arranged to meet at my hotel around 9. 30pm and bearing in mind I had only ever seen this girl's photo I was taking a bit of a gamble. I also arranged for another DIA girl to visit me at 8. 30am the following morning as a contingency plan if this one did not work out. She had also told me I was her very first foreigner that she had met, though I don't how true that is at all?

I went for a stroll up past the Sunflower when she texted me that she had arrived, so I hurredly returned to the front of the Waterfront on foot. There to greet me was the slimmest girl I have seen for a long time, slim legs and arms and very small breasts (just the way I like them). She was wearing tight fit jeans but looked classy with a very nice loose fiting top she was wearing. Facially she was what I would describe as cute, but not beautiful. She of course has youth on her side which helps enormously but she had a pretty smile, clear complexion and beautiful silky black shoulder length hair.

We went into the Asia IT Park for food, where we engaged in small talk and then headed back to my room. She was excited at the thought of going into the hotel which must have seemed truly palatial and magnificent to her (she lived in a cheap 800 pesos per month boarding house down town) and she was sad because she had forgot her camera. Always being one to help out a girl in need I told her I had a digital camera in my room and that I would take photos of her and email them to her later. We spent about 45 minutes wandering round the hotel with her being photographed in those silly poses that Filipinas seem to like so much, before returning to the room. After last nights disaster I was in no mood to wait and I started kissing her almost as soon as the door was closed. She responded passionately and I started to undress her. I nearly ejaculated there and then when I saw the beauty of her naked body, I rate this as the best girl physically that I have seen for many years. She had very small but well proportioned breasts with tiny pert nipples that almost looked like a rice crispie sat on top of her breast (sorry for you non English guys out there, but that is a well known UK children's breakfast cereal).

We continued in a passionate embrace and I moved my hand between her legs to find a very close cut pubic area with lovely wet pussy lips literally dripping with juiciness. I began playing with her pussy and she started crying out my name, softly at first but with increasing intensity as I brought her to climax. I felt a little embarrassed as I was sure guests in adjoining rooms could hear her groans and shouting.

I then impatiently entered her and she grew even more vocal, again calling out my name (I am sure everyone on my floor knows me by name now) and begging me to go faster and faster until she came again with the loudest groan I have ever heard when having sex. I could not hold back anymore and emptied a bucketful of sperm inside her. She sensed I was about to climax and pulled me even tighter inside her wrapping her legs around the backs of my legs, as my cock erupted. We both rolled apart and then held each other in a warm embrace. I could feel myself slowly drifting off to sleep but she started stroking my nipples and stomach, this girl was clearly not finished. I was tired and did not really want more sex but I could not resist another bout with her. I was a bit limp by now but she began masturbating me and I got hard enough to enter her a second time but not as hard as I would have liked. We tried doggy, missionary and with her lying flat on her stomach and me lying on top and entering from behind (one of my favourite postions). I just could not seem to satisy this girl and after about 30 minutes I withdrew and finished her off by hand bringing another crescendo of shouts gasps and screams as she climaxed again. By now I was thinking quietly to myself " f*k this I need some sleep.

She had to be at college for 8am that morning and she asked me to set the alarm for 4. 30am and no amount of persuasion would covince her to stay for breakfast. I reluctantly set the alarm for her and in no time at all we had drifted off to sleep in each other's arms. 4.30am arrived and up she got, got fully dressed without taking a shower and then climbed back into bed with me. She started stroking my chest and nipples and my limp cock bringing me to hardness again and I am now thinking to myself WTF is going on here. I started kissing her and started to remove her clothes. When she sensed I was aroused she finished the job impatiently and hurredly stripping off in bed till she was again naked. We had further sex in multiple postions for about 45 minutes and although my cock was rock hard again, there was no chance of me climaxing after the fluids I had lost earlier that morning. In fact it was starting to feel a bit uncomfortable for me, because she would grab my cock roughly as we moved positions, trying to impatiently to stuff the thing back into her pussy each time we moved. No amount of pounding or playing with her pussy, clitoris and breasts seemed to satisfy her and she just wanted more and more. She again cried out my name repeatedly, interspersed with noisy groans and sceaming, so much so I almost expected a call from reception as a result of complaints from other guests. To be really candid here guys, at that particular point in time I would have chosen sleep rather than trying to satisfy this rampant nymphomaniac, the likes I have never ever encountered before.

The sheets were very wet by now and since she had not even showered since we had first met, the pungent smell of sex guices permeated the whole of her pussy region. I don't know whether I brought her to climax again, to be honest at that point I really didn't care any more and I eventually rolled away from her and said "I need sleep" We cuddled together and again we both drifted off to sleep to awake at about 6. 30am. She tried to arouse me again, this time using her feet to rub my cock, but her rough approach was actually uncomfortable and I pushed her away gently saying "no I some need sleep"

She got up and got dressed and I told her I did not understand the logic of waking up at 4. 30am getting dressed and then leaving at 6. 30am but I did not get any sort of sensible answer from her. She knows I am leaving on Thursday and begged me to change my flight so that we can have the weekend together as she is in college all this week. Though I am very tempted, I think my penis needs some rest and recuperation this weekend and my Filipina gf back home in the UK will expect to see me. I gave her a 1000 pesos note with a couple of hundred pesos for her taxi fare home and she seemed satisfied with this, though she is probably too polite to say otherwise. She wanted me to go down to the lobby with her but I told her she would have no problems at all and that it would be busy there even at that time in the morning, as I was still in bed.

What I thought was the strangest thing of all was that she did not even take a shower before leaving. I reminded her that I had a clean towel if she wanted a shower and I am sure the bathroom was possibly the nicest one she had ever seen. But she declined the offer and I would not be in the least surprised if she went to college later that morning without showering. Anyone within a few feet of her later that day, would surely be able to smell her pussy. In this one resect at least, Thai girls win hands down. Probably as a nation in general, they are the cleanest girls I have ever met and Flipinas could learn a lot from them about personal hygiene!

We said our goodbyes and she left. I quickly sent a text message to the other girl that was going to show up at 8.30am to tell her to cancel her visit as I was very tired (see I was being completely truthful for a change!)

What a memorable experience! It is one that I very nearly missed out on. When you look back at how we met and the fact she would not have ever entertained me if I had stuck to my guns and said I only wanted fun, it makes for some illogical decision making on her part. I mean she knew we will probably not meet again, at least not for a several months. She left without either of us making any plans to meet again, but what a truly unforgetable and exhausting experience it was.

In Cebu earlier in the month with my regular gf. She has a text saying her son is ill and she needs to go and see him. I give her money for taxi to Talisay and some extra to buy medicine. I make excuses as to why I can't go with her. It is 4pm. After she leaves I log onto the internet and ym. I am buzzed by a hot chat mate that I have not met yet.

BUZZ!

Me: Hi.

Girl: heheehhe.

Girl: still busy with your girl there?

Me: she is not with me at the moment.

Girl: why?

Me: she has gone to see her family.

Me: she live in Talisay.

Girl: ok can we meet?

Me: hehe.

Me: she will be back tomorrow.

Girl: thats why today.

Girl: hahahah.

Me: haha.

Girl: you want?

Me: mmmmmmmm.

Me: you want to meet for fun?

Me: hehe.

Girl: I want to see you.

Girl: ps.

Girl: yupz.

Me: you know I am a very naughty boy in the bedroom?

Girl: really?

Girl: prove it.

Me: yes.

Girl: hahahhah.

Me: mmmmmmmmmmmm.

Girl: so?

Me: you sure?

Girl: yes.

Girl: I am sure.

Me: are you naughty in bedroom?

Girl: yes.

Girl: so we meet today.

Girl: we meet in ayala now.

Girl: I like you.

Girl: when I saw you on cam before.

Girl: I'm sorry I'm honest person.

Girl: I'm sexy now.

Me: he he.

Me: really?

Girl: yes.

Me: how sexy?

Girl: I'm very much sexy than in cam.

Within an hour we are banging away. She is very hot in the sack, and has no qualms that I have a regular girl. I make it clear that she can only stay a few hours and that is ok with her.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1115444]We've all been there Mate. All felt that urge. In all my travels throughout Asia Filipino taxi drivers rank as the second worst. Primarily because their cars are old crap and 50% of the guys assume your their new best friend and therfor your money is theirs. The VERY worst taxis in all of Asia tho are in Malaysia. Great cabs in Shanghai, Taipei, Jakarta, Singapore, HK. Sad these guys just don't get it.[/QUOTE]Ya the Filipino taxi drivers are pretty bad. I was at the airport once, and it seems the guy wanted to fight me because I wouldn't let him keep the change; but why should I when he ripped me off in the first place (he wouldn't use the meter; we negotiated a higher flat rate).

It seem to have gotten worst over the years. A lot of taxi drivers won't use the meter on foreignors. Impossible to get a taxi to use the meter at Greenbelt during rush hour; there are a lot of people waiting though, but I believe the locals use the meter.

The taxi drivers in Kuala Lumpur are notorious for not using the meter for foreignors; but that's mainly in Butin Bintang; outside that area, it isn't that bad.

In Bangkok, the taxi drivers that wait in the tourist area will charge 2 or 3 times the price; I feel sorry for those ignorant tourists. Also, many of the taxi drivers will not use the meter if the traffic is bad.

In Saigon, if you use Vina Sun or Mai Linh, the taxi has to use the cheap legit meter. Most of the other taxi companys will have rip-off fast running meters.

I am heading to Cebu on Saturday. I would prefer to meet some girls outside of go go bars so I will try Alaya (sp?) Mall etc. But if anyone has any contacts they would like to share that would be awesome. I tend to go for the small girls between 18 and late 20's. Any girl who does anal would be great. Have only tried that once so would like to give it another go. Or any suggestions on finding girls who are into that. Thanks and enjoy the reports. Look for mine in a week or two.

[QUOTE=Denkicash; 1116034]Cheers guys for the further tips

Feels a bit as if DIA could lead to a situation where I end up spending an inordinate amount of time once I get to Cebu doing SMS / texting (which I hate). [/QUOTE]You are right. I have been spending complete afternoons in my room texting and phoning my DIA girl.

Very tiring and little effect with much effort

Great Reports, Mort. Any pix of those spinners? We have the same taste. No pix allowed from the cuties I hit in November.

J.

Ps. Clear you mailbox!

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1116057]The taxi driver doesn't want to go to Mactan because its a long trip for him. Its worth it for him to run the meter over. But, he does not have a fare to return, so its not worth it. Offer him p80 over the meter when you get into the taxi. Most will take it. He's not being an asshole, he just can't make a profit for only the trip over as he must drive back.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I'm fully aware of potential for empty return trip. I usually offered 100-200p extra which is double the fare, even then a few guys wouldn't consider it. This is going to Hilton. I have had similar experiences in the past going to and from P. Bay. Just not worth the hassle to stay at those places. Most times I have to negotiate fixed price and even then it is a real pain. I recommend stay on Cebu island whenever someone asks.

[QUOTE=Rob Raxcal;1116185]. But if anyone has any contacts they would like to share that would be awesome. I tend to go for the small girls between 18 and late 20's. Any girl who does anal would be great. Have only tried that once so would like to give it another go. Or any suggestions on finding girls who are into that. Thanks and enjoy the reports. Look for mine in a week or two.[/QUOTE]You're expecting a lot for guys to share contacts with someone they have never met.

I have a circle of friends and we tend to share names / contacts now and again because we know each other.

History shows that some guys do not always treat contacts in the appropriate way, and then the original guy ends up in the shit.

I am not saying that about you Rob but you need to understand where some of us are coming from.

I suggest you meet a few members in Cebu early, get to know each other better and then they might be more prepared to share contacts.

[QUOTE=Rob Raxcal;1116185]I am heading to Cebu on Saturday. I would prefer to meet some girls outside of go go bars so I will try Alaya (sp?) Mall etc. But if anyone has any contacts they would like to share that would be awesome. I tend to go for the small girls between 18 and late 20's. Any girl who does anal would be great. Have only tried that once so would like to give it another go. Or any suggestions on finding girls who are into that. Thanks and enjoy the reports. Look for mine in a week or two.[/QUOTE]Just go to mango sq and sit with a beer near the store, forget then name, on the right as you go in you will find all you want, and they will find you just wait till the right ones come along.

Thank you for your comments about my recent posts and thanks to the guys that PM'd me. It is not easy finding time to write comprehensive reports like these, especially when you are actually here in Cebu as I am. I much prefer to give my accounts when they are still fresh, or should I say vivid in my memory. I am really glad my field reports are appreciated, it makes the time and effort worthwhile.

As regards photos, I do take them when permitted. I rarely take out girls from bars and I guess it is much easier to negotiate photos with these kinds of women. My girls will occasionally allow photos but not full explicit frontals (which is a shame) but I guess they are worried about the photos ending up on the internet. You can see from one of my posts week the problems I had with one girl after photographing her in the bedroom. She wasn't even showing anything of interest, just sat on the bed with a towel wrapped round her, but it was enough to freak her out.

[QUOTE=Mortman; 1116450]Thank you for your comments about my recent posts and thanks to the guys that PM'd me.

[/QUOTE]Enjoyed reading your reports. Keep up the good work.

My handheld computer just arrived- It has an HSDPA SIM slot which will accept a standard SIM. It's an international- (triband) unit. It runs Windows XP tablet edition.

I want to use it in Cebu for texting & data access. I have used unlocked triband cellphones in the Philippines for voice calls & texting (SMS) with no problem. I also use a Smartbro USB dongle to connect my laptop to the internet. No problem. It contains a different SIM. It connects over local cellphone service towers, via Smartbro supplied software.

What software may help me connect my computer in the Philippines?

PS- I put my USA AT&T SIM in my computer but the supplied Novatel software didn't find it.

Has anyone done anything like this? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

I arrive in Cebu next week for a month or so- I hope to visit several of my favorite bars after I recover from jetlag. I'll try to pay up my dues for this board before I leave so I can send & receive PM's.

Regards to all- Don

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1116057]The taxi driver doesn't want to go to Mactan because its a long trip for him. Its worth it for him to run the meter over. But, he does not have a fare to return, so its not worth it. Offer him p80 over the meter when you get into the taxi. Most will take it. He's not being an asshole, he just can't make a profit for only the trip over as he must drive back.[/QUOTE]I just can't get the "I don't want to go back empty taxi" crap! They are TAXIS! Its their job to drop the flag and take me where I want to go for the price on the meter. Its not my concern if he drops me off, and burn rubber at 100mi hr to get back to where he pick me up in a empty taxi. If he don't want to go back empty, then don't. Ride around like most do and a customer will hail them down sooner or later. Its called WORKING! Problem solved!

[QUOTE=Mayntain;1119567]I just can't get the "I don't want to go back empty taxi" crap! They are TAXIS! Its their job to drop the flag and take me where I want to go for the price on the meter. Its not my concern if he drops me off, and burn rubber at 100mi hr to get back to where he pick me up in a empty taxi. If he don't want to go back empty, then don't. Ride around like most do and a customer will hail them down sooner or later. Its called WORKING! Problem solved![/QUOTE]Cebu is not the only place where this happens. I got the same response from taxi drivers in Manila, and in many areas of Korea as well. I'm sure it also happens in many places around the world. But I thought the Philippines had a telephone number you could call to report actions like this. If the driver upsets you that much, get his name and taxi number, and call the number to report him. If enough calls are made about this type of action, maybe the drivers will change their attitudes.

[QUOTE=Mayntain;1119567]I just can't get the "I don't want to go back empty taxi" crap! They are TAXIS! Its their job to drop the flag and take me where I want to go for the price on the meter. Its not my concern if he drops me off, and burn rubber at 100mi hr to get back to where he pick me up in a empty taxi. If he don't want to go back empty, then don't. Ride around like most do and a customer will hail them down sooner or later. Its called WORKING! Problem solved![/QUOTE]If they were getting paid by the hour or a salary maybe what you say makes sense, but they're not paid that way. They pay for the taxis for a 24 hour stint and have to pay for whatever fuel they use. Everything outside of that is their take for the 24 hours. So if you ask for a taxi to take you out to a place where the financials don't make sense, why should he do it for just the meter? You guys can say what you want based on your gut or what you think is good business for them, but if you don't understand their situation then it may be pretty hard for you to deal with taxis as such over there. Staying out in Mactan for whatever reasons comes with transportation issues. If you are having problems getting taxis to take you back there, it's probably for good reason. You probably have to bump up some extra pesos to make it worth their while. They're going to most likely struggle to find a customer going back so they may have to drive a long ways to catch a fare and pay for their fuel costs, when they could have stayed in the city and catch more fares. On top of this whole issue, is they work their 24 hour shift and then basically have to take the next day off. We'd probably all have a better understanding if we were in their shoes, but we're not. Basically they're running they're own business. They can choose to take a customer or not just as much as you can choose to not use their services.

This is my second trip to Cebu this year. I came in the spring for 6 weeks, and I am back again for 8 weeks. I've been here for a couple of weeks already. Previously I spent my time fucking my beautiful 18 year old gf and then working my DIA contacts for other sexual encounters. I had a blast and tho I screwed plenty of girls, I had alot of no-shows (to be expected) from my DIA contact list.

To combat this, I took the time and effort to stay in better communication with my "closed" prospects before comming. So this time around I have an even bigger "book" and they are much more solid. Funny thing is that for the past few weeks, I've been content to fuck my regular girlfriend. She was a virgin when I met her, and now she's the best lay I've ever had and it keeps getting better and better.

This week, however, I've decided I can't let all this pussy around me go to waste and I decided to try out some other venues, like to Go Gos and Casas, besides contacting and meeting my "book" girls. Some roadblocks, however. On my last trip, every time I got into a taxi alone, the drivers would pester me constantly to take me to a casa. This time none did. While watching some porn, my gf revealed to me that she wanted to have a pretty girl eat her pussy. Well, I'm a gentleman, and I wouldn't want to deny her such an experience.

I thought the a casa would be the perfect thing and she agreed, so I put us in a taxi and asked the driver to take us to a casa. He sadly informed me they have all been pretty much shut down in the past few months becasue of a crack down by the mayor. Hopefully, this is only temporary.

Maybe I can find a suitable girl for her at one of the Go Go's. We'll see. I'll report back when I have more to report.

Cheers all

Have to agree with you 100 % good post!

Many drivers don't own the cabs they are driving so margins become thin.

Generally speaking, Cebu cabbies are fair and trustworthy compared to their counterparts in Manila.

The only problems I have noticed is some like to keep their meters off on runs from the airport.

[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder;1119590]Cebu is not the only place where this happens. I got the same response from taxi drivers in Manila, and in many areas of Korea as well. I'm sure it also happens in many places around the world. But I thought the Philippines had a telephone number you could call to report actions like this. If the driver upsets you that much, get his name and taxi number, and call the number to report him. If enough calls are made about this type of action, maybe the drivers will change their attitudes.[/QUOTE]Wish it were so but doubtful. Malaysia has Asia's worst taxis (compared to Taipei and Shanghai, Asia's best and most honest ). The govt knew there were thousands of complaints about people being forced to haggle and beg for rides. So the Malaysian govt, in its wisdom had a brainwave. It put signs on the side of all taxis that said in multiple languages " no haggling ". Problem solved.

So there I was in Penang getting into a "no haggling taxi" and duly asked the driver to turn on his meter, he said "no" the fare is " up to you " I thought it said no haggling I replied.

He said," I put that on the side of my side of my taxi because the govt told me to" I still haggle. LOL. And there you have it. Reasons why in some countries these guys are laws unto themselves and in other countries they follow the law.

[QUOTE=Mattrick; 1119744]Have to agree with you 100 % good post!

Many drivers don't own the cabs they are driving so margins become thin.

Generally speaking, Cebu cabbies are fair and trustworthy compared to their counterparts in Manila.

The only problems I have noticed is some like to keep their meters off on runs from the airport. [/QUOTE]Tend to agree Mattrick, Cebu taxis are fair even when I am being very lazy and get a 50 pesos fare they are great and polite. Airport is another thing but even get that in the UK at times. Manila. Another planet but we should should not moan too much as what is a / 50100 pesos to us? To them means a lot more so be a tad generous IMHO

[QUOTE=Don Roberts; 1117341]My handheld computer just arrived- It has an HSDPA SIM slot which will accept a standard SIM. It's an international- (triband) unit. It runs Windows XP tablet edition.

I want to use it in Cebu for texting & data access. I have used unlocked triband cellphones in the Philippines for voice calls & texting (SMS) with no problem. I also use a Smartbro USB dongle to connect my laptop to the internet. No problem. It contains a different SIM. It connects over local cellphone service towers, via Smartbro supplied software.

What software may help me connect my computer in the Philippines?

PS- I put my USA AT&T SIM in my computer but the supplied Novatel software didn't find it.

Has anyone done anything like this? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

I arrive in Cebu next week for a month or so- I hope to visit several of my favorite bars after I recover from jetlag. I'll try to pay up my dues for this board before I leave so I can send & receive PM's.

Regards to all- Don[/QUOTE]You should be able to use the smartbro sim in the PC. Not sure on required software, you could try going to Smart store in SM mall and asking. The SmartBro has 1 day unlimited internet / data for 50p if you send a text, see their website for details. Let me know how this works out for you because I may try the same thing in a few weeks. Also, some bars have free wifi, believe it or not. I know Liza's Sea fun pub has it, I have used it before.

[QUOTE=Riverman;1119692]I thought the a casa would be the perfect thing and she agreed, so I put us in a taxi and asked the driver to take us to a casa. He sadly informed me they have all been pretty much shut down in the past few months becasue of a crack down by the mayor. Hopefully, this is only temporary.[/QUOTE]There are a couple of excellent casas on Mactan so have a look see if you strike out in Cebu City.

[QUOTE=Cyber Whip;1120432]You should be able to use the smartbro sim in the PC. Not sure on required software, you could try going to Smart store in SM mall and asking. The SmartBro has 1 day unlimited internet / data for 50p if you send a text, see their website for details. Let me know how this works out for you because I may try the same thing in a few weeks. Also, some bars have free wifi, believe it or not. I know Liza's Sea fun pub has it, I have used it before.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your reply- I have had some progress- I installed my smartbro SIM- (not a cellphone SIM but the one that comes in the smartbro dongle). & I was able to connect to yahoo messenger, but the connection terminated almost immediately- So I will have to find out how to get the software to recognize the smartbro connection-

Last Sunday I toured about 20 plus bars- Very Late- all bars very empty- Coliseum very funny- all the few girls who were left werefast asleep with their little heads on the bar. No surprise with 4000 peso barfines.

I went out to the same 20 bars on Tuesday & again on Thursday with better results,. I will try to post a longer report later.

[QUOTE=Don Roberts;1122647]Thanks for your reply- I have had some progress- I installed my smartbro SIM- (not a cellphone SIM but the one that comes in the smartbro dongle). & I was able to connect to yahoo messenger, but the connection terminated almost immediately- So I will have to find out how to get the software to recognize the smartbro connection-[/QUOTE]As long as you have the APN set to "smartbro" instead of the "internet" that Buddy uses it should just work.

I was using a smart bro sim in a 2. 2 android phone last night for wireless tethering so my girlfriend could use her wifi phone at the same time I was using my notebook.

[quote=mongrinastrlnd; 1122846]as long as you have the apn set to "smartbro" instead of the "internet" that buddy uses it should just work.

i was using a smart bro sim in a 2. 2 android phone last night for wireless tethering so my girlfriend could use her wifi phone at the same time i was using my notebook.[/quote]ok great, this is similar to what i want to do. i would like to use the usb dongle in a netbook, then use the wifi in the netbook as a wifi hotspot. have you tried that? i have an ipod touch i would like to get on the net. i have read that should work with the wifi hotspot activated in windows 7, kind of like adhoc network.

also, have you tried sun internet dongle in cebu? was thinking about switching, i see they have better deals but not sure the service availability or the speeds.

[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder;1119590]Cebu is not the only place where this happens. I got the same response from taxi drivers in Manila, and in many areas of Korea as well. I'm sure it also happens in many places around the world. But I thought the Philippines had a telephone number you could call to report actions like this. If the driver upsets you that much, get his name and taxi number, and call the number to report him. If enough calls are made about this type of action, maybe the drivers will change their attitudes.[/QUOTE]Manila has one. 09175618709, but I have never seen a number for Cebu.

Robb

Anyone been in Liza's lately? Getting ready to make a trip to Cebu. I tend to like Liza's when there is a crowd in there. The girls tend to get a little crazy. I hear she has picked up a few new girls, and a few old ones. Was kind of dead there last time I was there, last month.

[quote=cyber whip; 1122929]ok great, this is similar to what i want to do. i would like to use the usb dongle in a netbook, then use the wifi in the netbook as a wifi hotspot. have you tried that? i have an ipod touch i would like to get on the net. i have read that should work with the wifi hotspot activated in windows 7, kind of like adhoc network.

also, have you tried sun internet dongle in cebu? was thinking about switching, i see they have better deals but not sure the service availability or the speeds. [/quote]i did a bit of experimenting this trip, but i didn't really have enough time.

i have not had great luck with sun for data in either tacloban or cebu. testing with a p10 "winner" sim plus p30 of load was enough to make the determination i didn't want to use it. unfortunately i only had dongles for smart and globe so my comparison on sun was not apples / apples since i was using it in a phone and wifi tethering to the pc.

overall in both tacloban and cebu i had better luck with globe for data in the places i tried (as always, ymmv and you may have a hotel in a place right next to an uncongested smart antenna).

I'm back in Japan now, has their been any more dirt on the norwegian guy and his DIA fiancee that were arrested for the kidnap / murder of the little girl a few days ago at Mactan airport? Apparently the arrest happened within an hour after I flew out of the airport on the 12th.

Continues to be front page news every day. In every photo, the poor Norwegian guy just looks completely lost, like he doesn't know what the fuck is going on. According to him and the nurse/fiance, they had never even been near where the murder took place, and have solid alibis. The whole situation is very strange including the crime itself.

[QUOTE=Mongrinastrlnd;1123820]I'm back in Japan now, has their been any more dirt on the norwegian guy and his DIA fiancee that were arrested for the kidnap / murder of the little girl a few days ago at Mactan airport? Apparently the arrest happened within an hour after I flew out of the airport on the 12th.[/QUOTE]My money is on the norwegian guy that he is innocent and I feel really sorry for this guy.

He got arrested just because he looks like the artists sketches of the foreigner and filipina who supposedly kidnapped the girl. A local pimp said he recognised the norwegian guy and the filipina from the sketches and claimed that they have gotten girls from him before. But according to the norwegian guy he was not even in the country during the time when the pimp claimed he met them. How about checking this with the airlines? When the norwgian guy was supposed to be in Barili he was at Waterfront. Also the pimp said the guy was heading for moalboal and apparentley he has not even been there. As stated before so many weird things in this story. Another things that upsets me what about the pimp? He admitted he was part of it. Shouldn't he be arrested or something!

Here is some more articles about this story.

[url]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/arrest-has-made-our-love-stronger-norwegian-national[/url]

[url]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/did-police-get-right-couple[/url]

[QUOTE=Blade1; 1123935]My money is on the norwegian guy that he is innocent and I feel really sorry for this guy.[/QUOTE]This seems to back up your views:

[url]http://cdn.ph/i_editorial.php[/url]

I did not get a chance to really monger a lot on this trip. Got a really good rate on Delta, though their service was crap and the inbound flight was delayed 2. 5h so I didn't get out of customs until about 1:30am. Spent most of the time in Leyte with my GF, a DIA contact.

Did manage to get away for 1 day in Cebu visiting a male friend who recently returned there after a long time overseas. Left me with an evening to kill and I was staying at the Diplomat (was a mistake, should have gone with my first idea and tried Elizabeth) so I just walked over to grab dinner and cruise through the Mango bars.

Red Lips. Was dead at 9pm on a Saturday night. Didn't even order a drink here.

Noticed there was a new bar in soft-open on the side road to Red Lips. Didn't go in because it was similarly dead. Wouldn't mind hearing reports about this place for future reference.

Viking. Better than the previous two, but still slow. A few good dancers but most too much belly-fat for me. Just one drink and out.

Sisters. Had a handful of customers, couple girls that I remembered. I stayed about a half-hour here, chatted with one girl who was charming but had a long face rather than the rounder pinay face look that I like. The mamasan here is also fun to talk to and remembered me from my last Cebu visit 6 months ago. Still, this place is pushier on the drinks than I really prefer and the girls like to work the customers for LD in groups (though nowhere near as bad as bars on Burgos in Manila) so I stepped out to my next destination.

Pussycats. Spent a lot of time here on my last trip. I didn't know if my favorite, Miss H, was still working here, and I didn't text or I'm her to tell her I'd be in Cebu this time (last time I was in Philippines I didn't make it to Cebu and she was disappointed). Didn't have to wonder long because barely 10 seconds after I cleared the door there was 5'5" of squealing pinay rushing at me. Unlike the other bars I'd gone in who seem to have had about 90% turnover in the last 6 months, I remembered about half the girls. The girls at Pussycat are just as I like. Superslim and most have the roundish face I like. Ended up taking Miss H back to the hotel with me again, nice extended oral session to start but only ended up managing one pop in the end and a couple hours catching up with each other.

Had a quick meeting with my friend the next morning and then a late afternoon flight out after a little shopping. Just managed to make it from SM (picked up the newest Samsung android phone which is pretty nice) through airport checkin just in time for boarding.

[QUOTE=Python75; 1124050]This seems to back up your views:

[url]http://cdn.ph/i_editorial.php[/url][/QUOTE]Utterly pathetic and just again shows the police will fabricate and not investigate properly when a juicy reward (for a pinoy) is on offer.

If the alibis prove true watch for scapegoats on this. Never trust the police is my view in PI having seen friends shaken down more than once. Maybe am jaded but how can anyone be guilty as the CPPO is "morally convinced" the right couple are in custody and stops the investigation. Am sure that may stand up in a PI court but am sure in USA UK Europe etc it would take more than his say. LOL.

At the same the whole story make me laugh as it goes to show once again why everyone rushes to PI to invest

I don't know what kind of body type this guy is, but I meet the white and right-age criteria, and passed through the airport where he was arrested right at about the same time (minus an hour or two). Granted I was traveling alone but could easily have been hassled about this at the very least.

I've never personally had any trouble with the police but this sort of thing is chilling at minimum based on how tight this guy's alibi looks at the moment (backed-up story placing him in Lahug 30 minutes before and video in the Lahug Waterfront lobby 15-30 minutes after the kidnap took place 15 km away).

[QUOTE=Mongrinastrlnd; 1124079]I don't know what kind of body type this guy is, but I meet the white and right-age criteria, and passed through the airport where he was arrested right at about the same time (minus an hour or two). Granted I was traveling alone but could easily have been hassled about this at the very least.

I've never personally had any trouble with the police but this sort of thing is chilling at minimum based on how tight this guy's alibi looks at the moment (backed-up story placing him in Lahug 30 minutes before and video in the Lahug Waterfront lobby 15-30 minutes after the kidnap took place 15 km away). [/QUOTE]Agree M.

Point here is that is a nice reward and the police etc want it so close case early and be done, donn care a joy for justice or the alibi or evidence just find a suspect and game over as fast as possible and claim the reward. Saw further news that despite evidence he not the guy they are looking for the police still filing the case. Money talks M and I am always wary of police. This incident, if proven that the guy and his lady have a solid alibi, is worrying IMHO as police driven by greed not facts or innocence before guilt.

[url]http://cdn.ph/news_details.php?id=8823[/url]

Even the police chief says the reciepts etc are not good evidence as can email (despite witness to state the couple were present)

[url]http://cdn.ph/news_details.php?id=8824[/url]

So they continue to file.

Lots of crap on face if / when the alibi holds LOL

I did some trolling of google image search and found some pictures of the guy. Facial features obviously different, but caucasian, age/height/hair length/hair color nearly the same as mine, and only slightly heavier built. If my GF hadn't been working and was able to come to Cebu with me that day I could have been a dead match for a written description and be rotting in a Cebu jail right now since I would have been passing through the airport just before him.

You do know there's a reward for info on the guy who did this.

Hmm, whats your name again. LOL

The gal has a FB page. She's quite a looker.

[QUOTE=Mongrinastrlnd;1123820]I'm back in Japan now, has their been any more dirt on the norwegian guy and his DIA fiancee that were arrested for the kidnap / murder of the little girl a few days ago at Mactan airport? Apparently the arrest happened within an hour after I flew out of the airport on the 12th.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mongrinastrlnd; 1124079]I don't know what kind of body type this guy is, but I meet the white and right-age criteria, and passed through the airport where he was arrested right at about the same time (minus an hour or two). Granted I was traveling alone but could easily have been hassled about this at the very least.

I've never personally had any trouble with the police but this sort of thing is chilling at minimum based on how tight this guy's alibi looks at the moment (backed-up story placing him in Lahug 30 minutes before and video in the Lahug Waterfront lobby 15-30 minutes after the kidnap took place 15 km away).[/QUOTE]The sketch has a scarry resemblance of the guy charged.

I had a few days in Bohol earlier this month.

Other posts have suggested taking a girl with you if you go there, having not done so, I would certainly now agree with those posts.

I stayed at a small, pokey place that was cheap and cheerful but only really served as a place to crash (though I guess it would have been OK to bring girls in there I didn't).

I checked out Wregency in passing on one of the days I was in Tagbilaran and that seemed like a good option with decent rooms in the 1200 1500 range. I'd assume Metro is nice but I didn't check their rooms.

Metro bar / night club I visited twice and did not get the impression that it's a good place to find girls.

I had thought that I had 5 DIA girls lined up for Bohol, but 3 of the 5 when I contacted them to say I was in Bohol replied that they didn't actually live there any more. 1 of them promptly ran out of load and contact was never re-established. The other one was (to be brutal) a weird little shit and made me feel so ill at ease that after a few mins of walking around I called it off and said goodbye.

Behind City Sqaure Mall is a KTV bar that has girls that you can take out. They had some nice enough girls in there but I wasn't in the mood and thus have no further comment.

Beyond that Bohol does have some cool places to visit, especially Danao adventure park aka E. A. T.

While waiting for the bus in Danao one cheeky lad offered me the use of his mum, his buddy, and his chicken, which was very funny but not very tempting.

[QUOTE=Denkicash;1124500]While waiting for the bus in Danao one cheeky lad offered me the use of his mum, his buddy, and his chicken, which was very funny but not very tempting.[/QUOTE]Please PM me. Is the chicken over 18?

[quote=denkicash; 1124500]i had a few days in bohol earlier this month.

other posts have suggested taking a girl with you if you go there, having not done so, i would certainly now agree with those posts.

i stayed at a small, pokey place that was cheap and cheerful but only really served as a place to crash (though i guess it would have been ok to bring girls in there i didn't).

i checked out wregency in passing on one of the days i was in tagbilaran and that seemed like a good option with decent rooms in the 1200 1500 range. i'd assume metro is nice but i didn't check their rooms.

metro bar / night club i visited twice and did not get the impression that it's a good place to find girls.

i had thought that i had 5 dia girls lined up for bohol, but 3 of the 5 when i contacted them to say i was in bohol replied that they didn't actually live there any more. 1 of them promptly ran out of load and contact was never re-established. the other one was (to be brutal) a weird little shit and made me feel so ill at ease that after a few mins of walking around i called it off and said goodbye.

behind city sqaure mall is a ktv bar that has girls that you can take out. they had some nice enough girls in there but i wasn't in the mood and thus have no further comment.

beyond that bohol does have some cool places to visit, especially danao adventure park aka e. a. t.

while waiting for the bus in danao one cheeky lad offered me the use of his mum, his buddy, and his chicken, which was very funny but not very tempting. [/quote]i used to go to alona beach from cebu when i was living there part of the year. best bet is to meet chicks in cebu and then bring them with you to a place like alona. take them on the high speed boat which costs nothing for a westerner, and they will be thrilled. most locals would take the slow boat. also, i often got bar girls to go there for free on there days off or if there was a way for them to skip work for a couple days without bar fine. this is the exactly why ph is all about gfe experience with bar girls. don't think many thai bar girls would go with you "for free" to a beach spot all things considered, at least that's what they say, but i'm not sure about the truth to that. this the perfect comparison point of gfe between both countries.

also, bohol is very conservative. not the "big city" of cebu

city. not the best place to meet girls willing to sleep around after couple dates. word gets around there. there reputation with friends / family is damaged if someone finds out.

bohol women are known for their beauty. i can certainly attest to that. many move to cebu city for work and to meet their man. meet a chick from bohol in cebu and she'll make an awesome companion if you offer to pay for a weekend trip back to bohol.

i sometimes met a girl, and on the first date i liked her a lot, i'd offer to take her for a night or two at a beach

resort in bohol ($20 a night or something like that for room). if she says yes then she's pretty much agreeing to sleep with you. if she joins you and doesn't; well that would just suck.

one of the girls i ended up poking on a regular basis in cebu was someone i did the above with. lot of fun to fool around on the beautiful beaches at night on bohol with someone that you're on a second date with.

-wander luster

So all the silly interviews in porn "gonzo" movies start with interviews of the girl. Ever think about how great a real interview in Cebu is as a way to meet girls? I used to speak to some of the most gorgeous girls in the city about jobs at my small company after running 1/4 page employment ads in sun star. This is tricky, though, because if she doesn't get the job and it's another person in my office that called to inform, I'd have to very careful contacting her about meeting for a drink even though we didn't have a position for her. I didn't do this much at all because I didn't want my employees to find out, which they prob would one way or another.

But, If I go to Cebu again soon, it will be part business. I'll be looking for people that can do outsourcing work with. Meeting in person is much better then over the Web. Girls are very impressed by your work credentials in the US. Do interviews at Starbucks. Play and work can go together quite easily. So, start some work on the side of your day job in the US if you can get some biz in the US with something like transcribing. Or, web marketing simple stuff that any computer literate recent college grad in Cebu can do that will help promote a website of someone you win biz from in the US.

MY QUESTION: how many of you have done exactly this? Stories?

BTW: if you ever have office space in Cebu, nothing like using the conference table on the weekend as a place to undress a cutie and go at it. If the office has an outside area or balcony, that's even more fun than a hotel balcony if it happens to be away from prying eyes. I used to look out on Cebu harbor while a girl went down on me. Always Saturdays or Sundays.

WL

[QUOTE=Wander Luster; 1124852]So all the silly interviews in porn "gonzo" movies start with interviews of the girl. Ever think about how great a real interview in Cebu is as a way to meet girls? I used to speak to some of the most gorgeous girls in the city about jobs at my small company after running 1/4 page employment ads in sun star. This is tricky, though, because if she doesn't get the job and it's another person in my office that called to inform, I'd have to very careful contacting her about meeting for a drink even though we didn't have a position for her. I didn't do this much at all because I didn't want my employees to find out, which they prob would one way or another.

But, If I go to Cebu again soon, it will be part business. I'll be looking for people that can do outsourcing work with. Meeting in person is much better then over the Web. Girls are very impressed by your work credentials in the US. Do interviews at Starbucks. Play and work can go together quite easily. So, start some work on the side of your day job in the US if you can get some biz in the US with something like transcribing. Or, web marketing simple stuff that any computer literate recent college grad in Cebu can do that will help promote a website of someone you win biz from in the US.

MY QUESTION: how many of you have done exactly this? Stories?

BTW: if you ever have office space in Cebu, nothing like using the conference table on the weekend as a place to undress a cutie and go at it. If the office has an outside area or balcony, that's even more fun than a hotel balcony if it happens to be away from prying eyes. I used to look out on Cebu harbor while a girl went down on me. Always Saturdays or Sundays.

WL[/QUOTE]Why all those difficult set ups? Just start sending around mails to the top 50 hot girls on DIA or Tagged 2 weeks before you arrive. If you are a little funny and can chat them up, then about half of them will agree to meet of which again half you can fuck after 1, 2 or 3 dates max. Which makes about 12 great fucks. Do not need outsourcing and offices for that.

Unless you are into men, massage services with extras seem to be in short suppy here in cebu city. Today, however, I finally found a place that will give you a hand job. But that seems to be about it, at least with the girl I had.

The massage was actually pretty good. On the flip to the front, she will ask you if you want a hand job with her naked. My girl was very clear that that's all that whe would offer. She was very pretty and had very nice large breasts, not a filipina standard thing. The massage was P500 (about twice the going rate) and on the flip she asks for more. Payment for the had job was required up front. She asked for P1, 200 and would absolutely not take less than P1, 000.

This, of course, is pretty expensive for a sex act here, but not totally out of line, IMHO. I took a jonquera girl the other nite, and by the time all was said and done (payment to pimp, taxi, short-time hotel, tip / taxi money to girl the full cost was around P1, 400. So a great massage and a dedent hand job was OK for P1, 500.

And its convenient. Sometimes I just want something reliable, nice, sexy, but relatively quick and now I have this place, so its cool.

For those interested its called "Stressfree Massage" its in a shopping center off the main drag, but close to Mango Square / Juliana's. If you are walking away from the Jollibee on that side street by Mango, past the National Bookstore, but before you get to the NS Royal Pension, its on the left hand side of the street.

Cheers,

Riverman

[QUOTE=Fslag338;1125759]Why all those difficult set ups? Just start sending around mails to the top 50 hot girls on DIA or Tagged 2 weeks before you arrive. If you are a little funny and can chat them up, then about half of them will agree to meet of which again half you can fuck after 1, 2 or 3 dates max. Which makes about 12 great fucks. Do not need outsourcing and offices for that.[/QUOTE]Because a lot of girls want to get to know you a little- especially if they're college grads- and this is a way to get to know them that serves another practical purpose. I think the main thing is if you're looking to meet girls that you'll bone more than once, if you want them to have some intelligence. You just don't know if Cebu girls will put out on 1st. 2nd, or 5th get together. If you want to be really pushy you can usually get it on the 1st or 2nd if they come to your hotel. But I've had a couple chicks get all worked up because they were "good girls" that never did that before and for me that wasn't pleasant. Also, this way of meeting gives you more cred in general so you can raise your standards higher than what they would be for a simple pick-up.

Your point is well taken, though.

[QUOTE=Riverman; 1125760]Unless you are into men, massage services with extras seem to be in short suppy here in cebu city. Today, however, I finally found a place that will give you a hand job. But that seems to be about it, at least with the girl I had.

The massage was actually pretty good. On the flip to the front, she will ask you if you want a hand job with her naked. My girl was very clear that that's all that whe would offer. She was very pretty and had very nice large breasts, not a filipina standard thing. The massage was P500 (about twice the going rate) and on the flip she asks for more. Payment for the had job was required up front. She asked for P1, 200 and would absolutely not take less than P1, 000.

This, of course, is pretty expensive for a sex act here, but not totally out of line, IMHO. I took a jonquera girl the other nite, and by the time all was said and done (payment to pimp, taxi, short-time hotel, tip / taxi money to girl the full cost was around P1, 400. So a great massage and a dedent hand job was OK for P1, 500.

And its convenient. Sometimes I just want something reliable, nice, sexy, but relatively quick and now I have this place, so its cool.

For those interested its called "Stressfree Massage" its in a shopping center off the main drag, but close to Mango Square / Juliana's. If you are walking away from the Jollibee on that side street by Mango, past the National Bookstore, but before you get to the NS Royal Pension, its on the left hand side of the street.

Cheers,

Riverman[/QUOTE]Yea, and some of the guys that you get an awesome normal message from and are really well trained and strong as shit. They're gay. I wasn't psyced when the great looking male massage dude I'd had several times passed me his home number for a sexual encounter.

[QUOTE=Wander Luster; 1125945]Because a lot of girls want to get to know you a little- especially if they're college grads- and this is a way to get to know them that serves another practical purpose. I think the main thing is if you're looking to meet girls that you'll bone more than once, if you want them to have some intelligence. You just don't know if Cebu girls will put out on 1st. 2nd, or 5th get together. If you want to be really pushy you can usually get it on the 1st or 2nd if they come to your hotel. But I've had a couple chicks get all worked up because they were "good girls" that never did that before and for me that wasn't pleasant. Also, this way of meeting gives you more cred in general so you can raise your standards higher than what they would be for a simple pick-up.

Your point is well taken, though. [/QUOTE]WL.

I never have any issues with college girls always good to me 1st time 2nd time and many times. I love Cebu for that very reason IMHO liberal college girls in my view :D

FSlag. Enjoy Cebu and say hallo to the ladies tell them your good mate is there soon ;)

But WL I do like the thinking and maybe I should set up interviews, you never know my charm could work LOL

Last weekend I was not going anywhere and I got a call on Saturday morning at 9 am that I could fly up to Cebu free, so I said WTF and booked a return ticket and hotel. I have to say, I AM SO HAPPY THAT I WENT!

I stay at the Airport Waterfront, as my departing flight is at 0550 and I can sleep later and walk over. I arrived at 2 pm and went to the hotel, room not ready. So I went into Casino and put my girl on hold. After losing 20,000P and holding her off for three hours, I told her to jump in a taxi and I went and got my key. As I playing slots in the Casino they had the weekend bingo game going and someone one won a million pesos in 47 numbers. Nice.

I waited in the lobby and my girl arrives and we head to the room. I needed to check my work email and she was already naked in bed yelling at me to come on. You have to love Filipinas. After two rounds and a hour nap, we went downstairs for dinner. I should know better, but we went to the dinner buffet. 700P and the food was crap.

We caught a cab into town and I tipped her and she dropped me off at Pussycats.

Pussycats was pretty busy and had a nice lineup. Left there and walked into Dimples and a Asian had every girl but one at his table drinking and eating, so walk through only. I went into Papillon and there were about six girls on the couch and three dancing. I got three smiles when I walked in. Ordered a beer and two girls came over, but I could tell they were working for drinking, working way to hard. I finally got a very sexy little spinner to come over and she sat down. We talked for a minute and I offered her a drink. She called the waitress and ordered a drink and as soon as the waitress left she informed me that it was her time to dance. WTF? I canceled the drink and the waitress told me that I could not cancel the drink and I told her, she did not have the drink in her hands yet and to cancel it. Little drama, but I paid for my beer and left after tipping the girl 100P (as she told me that it was the rules that she had to dance).

Walked across to Erik the Red and it was very slow. I brought one waitress who I had taken 10 times in the last four years a drink and left and went into BG's. BG's was full and I turned and walked out.

Downstairs in Vikings it was also busy and I sat on the side bar. One of the dancers that I had taken before came over and I brought her a drink and as soon as she drank it she said I have to go dance, so I said bye.

I walked over to Sisters and the bar was full. I sit down and one of my best f*cks in Cebu came over and I was already thinking to take her home and she dropped the mems bomb. I paid my bill and walked down to Red Lips and it was the busiest bar that I visited. I met a Korean in Sisters and we started talking. He is 29 and a nice guy. I asked him if he had been in Red Lips and he said he did not know about it, so he went with me. We stayed for one drink and I brought five LD's for girls who I knew and we were out.

I headed down to the Coliseum and I think this is the worst bar in Cebu. From the moment I walked in the mommasan was all over me to buy her or a girl a drink. I asked her if she went barfine, as she was only 22 and she said no. I told her that I only buy drinks for girls who barfine. She brought over a 19 year old sexy spinner and I brought her a drink. As we were talking I asked her if she goes barfine and she said NO. I turned to the Momma and I said WTF she also don't go and the mommasan talked to her and she turned to me and she said that the girl did not understand the question, but I know better. I paid my bill (380 = a beer and a LD) and left.

I went back to the Waterfront and went upstairs to their club and got one of past girls and had a great night.

I woke up Sunday and had a freaking headache and my girl left and I worked for a couple of hours and then went down to the Casino. That Casino is not paying out on slots. I lost another 10,000P:( By now it was 11 am and I could not shake my headache, so I went back to bed until 4 pm. Woke up and still had headache, so I went over to SM and had dinner and as it was still early and I had a headache, I decided to go over to the Waterfront in the city and check out their Casino.

I am so glad that I did, as I ended up hitting a slot jackpot of 869,740 Pesos ($20,000). Now if you ever win a jackpot in a Philippine Casino, be ready for 200 new friends. They followed the staff and I around the casino and kept asking for money. The Casino paid me in CASH and I told them that I could not carry that much cash, so they offered a manager's check for 100P. After almost three hours I got my check and a security escort to a taxi. I finally went to the Pharmacy and got some aspirin and got back to the hotel at 11 pm. I decided that I had enough excitement for one day and did not answer any text and slept alone. (not really sleeping, thinking that I had dreamed winning the jackpot)

Robb

[QUOTE=Robbaf;1126209]I am so glad that I did, as I ended up hitting a slot jackpot of 869,740 Pesos ($20,000).[/QUOTE]Congratulations, mate. Hope that you got home OK. I'll bet you was shitting it, walking around with that sort of money on you.

I once had to carry P2.1 million in cash a short distance in Malate. I have never felt so vulnerable in my life. It felt as though every pair of greedy eyes were centered on my briefcase. I would have felt safer walking down the main street in Sangin in my pajamas with a big target sign pinned to my back!

Robbaf congratulations. That is just enough to organise an ISG party in Cebu with loads of girls. Admission for ISG Members free of course.

WR: I will.

WL: yes everyone has a different style I think. Any girl I write I like to fuck. If they turn out to be really nice and you can have a decent conversation with them, then I will meet them more often.

But let me know if you need somebody to back you up at the interviews. Or you do the interviews and I do the medical test.

Checked out the nightlife here (for the first time). Wednesday was a good night for clubbing I was told.

Mango square: girls everywhere. But I was not very impressed. Clubs (Juliana etc) were quite full but not too exciting.

Around the streets there loads of bars.

It-mall: Loft (10 taxi min from Mango square) : turned out to be closed on Wednesday. Open only on FR / SAT? But must be one of the best places in Cebu.

So asked the taxi driver for another place and he brought me to Sunflower (close to Loft). Open with live music (quite good) but only about 10 people.

All in all not a too exciting night. But maybe I missed something. WIll try again coming weekend.

For those of you following the case of the Norwegian and his Fil gf being arrested for the supposed murder of the young kid: the chief of police resigned today (forced by the governor) because of his handling of the investigation. Couple will be released any moment. So it is not so bad as many negative comments suggested.

[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt; 1126244]Congratulations, mate. Hope that you got home OK. I'll bet you was shitting it, walking around with that sort of money on you.

I once had to carry P2. 1 million in cash a short distance in Malate. I have never felt so vulnerable in my life. It felt as though every pair of greedy eyes were centered on my briefcase. I would have felt safer walking down the main street in Sangin in my pajamas with a big target sign pinned to my back! [/QUOTE]Thanks! Yes, I got home and got it into BPI with no problems.

Four years ago I was a courier for my company and I used to go to Citi Bank on Makati Avenue and withdraw 5 to 10 million pesos and bring it back to the work site. I was going through Terminal 2 and the guards at the finally security check saw it on the x-ray. The idiot poured it out on the table and said hey where did you get this and why are you carrying it. I had all the right banking documents and he let me go, but he warned me it was unsafe to carry it. I told him it was not unsafe until he showed everyone that I had it.

Robb

[QUOTE=Fslag338; 1126439]Robbaf congratulations. That is just enough to organise an ISG party in Cebu with loads of girls. Admission for ISG Members free of course.

WR: I will.

WL: yes everyone has a different style I think. Any girl I write I like to fuck. If they turn out to be really nice and you can have a decent conversation with them, then I will meet them more often.

But let me know if you need somebody to back you up at the interviews. Or you do the interviews and I do the medical test. [/QUOTE]Thanks, but it is in savings and it is for my retirement.

Robb

[QUOTE=Robbaf;1126209]Little drama, but I paid for my beer and left after tipping the girl 100P (as she told me that it was the rules that she had to dance).[/QUOTE]Well, of course she had to dance, she could have told you before you bought her a drink.

I would not have tipped her more than what she would have earned from the drink.

[QUOTE=Robbaf; 1126581]Thanks, but it is in savings and it is for my retirement.

Robb[/QUOTE]Earning a very good American salary, and living in the Philippines. Who needs to retire? LMAO

[QUOTE=Fslag338; 1126511]So asked the taxi driver for another place and he brought me to Sunflower (close to Loft). Open with live music (quite good) but only about 10 people.

All in all not a too exciting night. But maybe I missed something. WIll try again coming weekend. [/QUOTE]Well am sure you have had plenty of excitement so a quiet one will do you no harm LOL.

Sunflower is busier on ladies night and weekends, I go there with Cebu favourite and is full with all sorts including the older guys dancing (well trying to) with the honeyko. Watching them is why I don't try and shake my booty on the dancefloor preferring to do so elsewhere

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger;1126788]. . . . Sunflower is busier on ladies night and weekends, I go there with Cebu favourite and is full with all sorts including the older guys dancing (well trying to) with the honeyko. Watching them is why I don't try and shake my booty on the dancefloor preferring to do so elsewhere[/QUOTE]Wise decision WR. But what makes you think ANYONE would be watching you if you were on the dance floor with Cebu favorite?

EVERYBODY would be watching her peach-shaped booty shaking

On the first date an 18 year old sweetie told me she liked romantic movies. So after the date I texted her when we were discussing our next meeting: 'or come to my place and we can watch a romantic movie together on my new laptop'

Sometimes I need to puke of myself.)

[QUOTE=Fslag338; 1126511]Checked out the nightlife here (for the first time). Wednesday was a good night for clubbing I was told.

Mango square: girls everywhere. But I was not very impressed. Clubs (Juliana etc) were quite full but not too exciting.

Around the streets there loads of bars.

It-mall: Loft (10 taxi min from Mango square) : turned out to be closed on Wednesday. Open only on FR / SAT? But must be one of the best places in Cebu.

So asked the taxi driver for another place and he brought me to Sunflower (close to Loft). Open with live music (quite good) but only about 10 people.

All in all not a too exciting night. But maybe I missed something. WIll try again coming weekend. [/QUOTE]I think Wednesday is ladies night at Pump (2? Or maybe both 1 and 2). Generally within the last year I have found Sunflower to be lifeless almost any night of the week. It does seem to be a little busier when the colleges are in session.

If you don't like Julianna around 1am then I don't really have any recommendations for you, that's about as good as it gets in Cebu. That place is usually packed to the walls. For a fee there are a few VIP areas there if you want to get out of the crowd, but usually will cost a little more than one person would want to pay. Julianna's also has contests some nights of the week, I don't know the schedule. Those are usually the best nights.

For live bands you are pretty much stuck with Sunflower and Nasa. Nasa even less lively than Sunflower, I. E. Boring. There used to be many good clubs with live bands, they seem to have closed up. There is YOU in Parkmall also but not much dancing there. There is Slabadu which has live band but mainly older tunes, small crowd. Also JazzNBlues near Marriott is about the same. Just depends on what you like.

I like to hit Julianna's, that's my favorite, but you have to go late (12-1am). Another good place is the joint to the left of Julianna's near the street, upstairs.

Can't comment on Loft, but I agree with your comment, I think it might be pretty good. I got turned away the one time I went. There is a dress code and someone in our party wasn't allowed, so we left. I hear it's something like Vudu but not sure.

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1126788]Well am sure you have had plenty of excitement so a quiet one will do you no harm LOL.

Sunflower is busier on ladies night and weekends, I go there with Cebu favourite and is full with all sorts including the older guys dancing (well trying to) with the honeyko. Watching them is why I don't try and shake my booty on the dancefloor preferring to do so elsewhere[/QUOTE]WR dancing. ? Now theres something that requires a serious amount of imagining. LOL. Shake it baby!

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1126843]Wise decision WR. But what makes you think ANYONE would be watching you if you were on the dance floor with Cebu favorite?

EVERYBODY would be watching her peach-shaped booty shaking[/QUOTE]RK.

Good you said that as I sit and watch and also watch others drooling especially in her killer FM heels and her short black dress with no panties (truly a lovely sight. As you know). Talking of heel (!) I bought some very horny Kurt Geiger heels (90% off!). You will approve, especially if holding the heels doing her doggy like the last time. If you remember her heels then. Very similar. See you April for some education LOL.

FF

I never shake my booty unless a cutie is above, beneath or in some other sexual position. Only form of dancing I know. At my age I need conserve energy for the right things in life and dancing is not one of them LOL.

FSlag.

That truly is puke worthy and I can imagine you saying it as well which makes it worse! I just hope the massage went well and that you are leaving some cuties for me when I get there (and am still waiting for the Manila contact details, promsie just cake and coffee LOL)

CW: thanks for the advice. Planned to check out the nightlife tonight (Saturday) but had a long date with a smoking hot 18 whyear old I was also smoking hot. In my pants LOL So in the end did not go.

IS it worth to go to Juliana'a on Sunday and non weekend days? I guess I was there too early then.

Thanks

WR:. Mothers of the Philippines. If WR says he wants to meet your daughter for cakes and coffee, barricade the doors and immediately call the police.

[QUOTE=Riverman; 1125760]This, of course, is pretty expensive for a sex act here, but not totally out of line, IMHO. I took a jonquera girl the other nite, and by the time all was said and done (payment to pimp, taxi, short-time hotel, tip / taxi money to girl the full cost was around P1, 400. So a great massage and a dedent hand job was OK for P1, 500.

Riverman[/QUOTE]Just to let you know. You only need to pay the pimp for the gals service and nothing more. The only other expense would be the taxi ride back to your regular hotel. Why bother renting another ST hotel if you have a hotel already?

[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2;1128141]You only need to pay the pimp for the gals service and nothing more.[/QUOTE]And beware of JONQUERA girls. All the Jonquera girls left after one pop even 3 hrs ST have been agreed in the presence of the pimp.

And most do not want to give a BJ even they agree when the pimp were around.

Just my own experience

Only hassle so far.

Ram

Rampana.

My experience has been completely the opposite but I tend to spend a long time walking around trying to find a girl that gives off the right vibes. It is totally subjective but so far I have been lucky and many of the the Jonqera girls have actually provided a true GFE. However I have gone there on many occasions and after walking round, decided not to take a girl because I just didn't feel right about the ones I saw.

Phantomtiger you are correct. I pay 500 to the pimp up front and that is short time which can be from 3-4 hours. I haven't had any girls try to do runners, in fact I couldn't get rid of a couple of them. Don't know why Riverman paid so much, it should have been 500 plus taxi fare there and back so a maximum of 650 depending on the location of your hotel. Jonquera girls in my experience do not expect tips like some of the bar girls do, however if I really like the girl I usually get them to stay till lunch time and I give them another 500 which is still only 1000. They are always happy to pay their own taxi fare out of this. I like to get to Jonquera at least a couple of times during each visit, I feel at home in the seedier parts of town for some reason

[QUOTE=Fslag338;1126520]For those of you following the case of the Norwegian and his Fil gf being arrested for the supposed murder of the young kid: the chief of police resigned today (forced by the governor) because of his handling of the investigation. Couple will be released any moment. So it is not so bad as many negative comments suggested.[/QUOTE]They were set free today without bribing anyone.

The only thing that they had to pay was lawyer fees.

I wonder were all the evidence and witnesses disappeared to?

But the police should now put in all their efforts to get the one person that has done this terrible thing.

The law works without bribes, but VERY s-l-o-w.

Of the Cebu bars or places, my understanding is that mostly the girls remain clothed, I think sisters was where they did a little topless last time I was there.

I like nothing more than picking a set of breasts from the line up.

Are there any decent "show" bars left in Cebu & surrounds that anybody knows of where you get to inspect the goods before you buy?

OS

[QUOTE=Mortman; 1128471]Rampana.

My experience has been completely the opposite but I tend to spend a long time walking around trying to find a girl that gives off the right vibes. [/QUOTE]Hi Mortman,

This might make the difference.

I just searched the girl our from the taxi when the pimp sat inside the cab already.

Maybe I just had back luck?

I was thinking to pay the girl after service and NOT the pimp ahead to avoid runners.

Ram

[QUOTE=Rampana; 1128797]Hi Mortman,

This might make the difference.

I just searched the girl our from the taxi when the pimp sat inside the cab already.

Maybe I just had back luck?

I was thinking to pay the girl after service and NOT the pimp ahead to avoid runners.

Ram[/QUOTE]I think all the girls in Jonquera require payment to a pimp up front, that is certainly my experience since going there and I suppose it does not leave you any more vulnerable that paying a barfine up front, although you could in theory go back and complain at a bar. The key is to handle the pimps firmly but politely, they can be very determined and persistent and will use any opportunity to accompany you around. Just tell them you are having a drink (there are lots of shacks selling beers or soft drinks) and then walk round alone at your leisure without any pressure.

For those punters uncomfortable with the walk of shame, I think the Parklane is brilliant. The top level of the parking garage underneath the lobby is open to the street 24/7 and is staffed with a single dick. All these are friendly enough with a nod, wink, and 20p once in awhile. Elevator direct to your room, no worries.

[QUOTE=Mortman;1128812]..... and then walk round alone at your leisure without any pressure.[/QUOTE]Hi Mortman,

Thanks.

I always assumed Jonquera is the "basketball court" only and I only have been there and with a taxi to the entrance of the "basketball court" and picking a girl in the night.

Seems there is more? All JAKUSALEM up?

Please. Enlighten me and I will take a new look when I am there next time.

Maybe pm?

Ram

[QUOTE=Rampana; 1129164]Hi Mortman,

Thanks.

I always assumed Jonquera is the "basketball court" only and I only have been there and with a taxi to the entrance of the "basketball court" and picking a girl in the night.

Seems there is more? All JAKUSALEM up?

Please. Enlighten me and I will take a new look when I am there next time.

Maybe pm?

Ram[/QUOTE]I have cut and pasted part of a post that I submitted on Jonquera last year (see below). I could write a book on Jonquera so PM if you need any specific questions answering and I will be happy to oblige. There are many old reports on Jonquera and you may find a lot of your questions have already been answered on the Cebu thread.

Had a wander round Colon Street today and noticed quite a few what looked like down and out foreigners sitting in bars downing afternoon san migs. Even saw one westerner sat in the gutter with some street dwellers with a filthy looking white vest and shorts, almost looked like he had been living on the streets as well.

Went into Jonquera for some earthy excitement. I know Jonquera has been reported on hundreds of times by others who are far more knowledgeable but it doesen't hurt to give some up to date feedback. I had a quickie there today with a young looking 19 year old cutie, more to fulfill a burning need and not really worth reporting on in detail here.

For those not knowledgable, Jonquera is actually the name of a street that has adjacent to it a small town of wooden shacks and tin huts, typical slum dwellings that house many young hookers. The place is like a rabbit warren and encircles a basketball court. If you order a girl from a taxi driver, street pimp or doorman, chances are that the girl came from Jonquera. The only difference is that they will charge you anything from 1500 to 2500 whereas if you go there yourself the average rate for a few hours is 500 pesos. Quite a saving for doing your own leg work!

There are lots of alley ways leading into this place but the main entrance to this area if you can even call it that, is a wide alleyway leading from Jakosalem Street (a short walk from Colon Street). Every single taxi driver in Cebu knows this place if you want to be dropped off at the doorstep, but be prepared as they will usually insist on helping you which means paying extra to cover their cut.

Be warned it can be a daunting place for the faint hearted especially at night, it is teeming with low life pinoy scum, who look like they would most likely rob you given half a chance. Despite this appearance you are quite safe there and I have never had a problem. You will get attacked from all quarters by pimps and sellers, just be firm but polite and you will have no problems.

Afternoons and early evenings tend to be fairly quiet, however if you go around 10pm or later the place transforms, with crowds of young hookers gathered around in small groups for you to choose. For newbies I would recommend taking one or two wingmen, not really for safety but it may make you feel a bit less uncomfortable on your own.

Going there at night is like being a young child let loose in a candy shop, it is definitely the bottom end of the P4P market but trust me you will find some amazing gems there. Happy hunting I may pay another visit this evening!

[QUOTE=Mortman;1128812]I think all the girls in Jonquera require payment to a pimp up front, .[/QUOTE]Correct.

Only other payment needed is for the taxi ride to your hotel and tips for the gal if she was very nice to you (but this is optional and not required as Mortman had reported from his own experiences).
Truth is, I never took any from here LT as for the same price, I could experience 2 gals ST for the same price (maybe even 3 gals if you are a very good negotiator).

PT

[QUOTE=Rampana; 1128797]I was thinking to pay the girl after service and NOT the pimp ahead to avoid runners.

Ram[/QUOTE]Nope. Can't be done here.

Have to pay up front or the the gals won't be free to go with you. Remember, it's the pimp or in some cases the mama that you pay as you never pay the gals directly. It's just the way things are done here.

PT

[QUOTE=Rampana; 1129164]I always assumed Jonquera is the "basketball court" only and I only have been there and with a taxi to the entrance of the "basketball court" and picking a girl in the night.

Seems there is more? [/QUOTE]In general, the basketball court is the main open lit area and if you don't know the area, walking around the small dark alleys surrounding the court is very daunting and scary and not recommended for the newbie. Also easy to get lost in the alleys as being a veteran I still sometimes lose my way.

PT

[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2; 1129358]In general, the basketball court is the main open lit area and if you don't know the area, walking around the small dark alleys surrounding the court is very daunting and scary and not recommended for the newbie. Also easy to get lost in the alleys as being a veteran I still sometimes lose my way.

PT[/QUOTE]Mortman and Phantomtiger,

Thank you for your explanations.

I will PM you if I need more advice and guidance when I am in Cebu City next time.

Ram

[QUOTE=Mortman; 1129246]For those not knowledgable, Jonquera is actually the name of a street that has adjacent to it a small town of wooden shacks and tin huts, typical slum dwellings that house many young hookers. The place is like a rabbit warren and encircles a basketball court. If you order a girl from a taxi driver, street pimp or doorman, chances are that the girl came from Jonquera. The only difference is that they will charge you anything from 1500 to 2500 whereas if you go there yourself the average rate for a few hours is 500 pesos. Quite a saving for doing your own leg work!

There are lots of alley ways leading into this place but the main entrance to this area if you can even call it that, is a wide alleyway leading from Jakosalem Street (a short walk from Colon Street). Every single taxi driver in Cebu knows this place if you want to be dropped off at the doorstep, but be prepared as they will usually insist on helping you which means paying extra to cover their cut.

Be warned it can be a daunting place for the faint hearted especially at night, it is teeming with low life pinoy scum, who look like they would most likely rob you given half a chance. Despite this appearance you are quite safe there and I have never had a problem. You will get attacked from all quarters by pimps and sellers, just be firm but polite and you will have no problems.

Afternoons and early evenings tend to be fairly quiet, however if you go around 10pm or later the place transforms, with crowds of young hookers gathered around in small groups for you to choose. For newbies I would recommend taking one or two wingmen, not really for safety but it may make you feel a bit less uncomfortable on your own.

Going there at night is like being a young child let loose in a candy shop, it is definitely the bottom end of the P4P market but trust me you will find some amazing gems there. Happy hunting I may pay another visit this evening! [/QUOTE]It's been several years since I ventured that way with a taxi driver late at night and the memories are quite addled by the booze, but I'll take a further shot at the location. I'm looking at Google Maps in satellite mode and I think the wide alley way referenced appears to be about 400 meters up Jakosalem on your left as you walk away from Colon St. Another 90 to 100 meters down that alleyway and you get to the open area. It might not be the shortest route from Colon, but it seems the most straightforward as it's very easy to get lost in the alleys as once happened to me in another slum area.

Yes, it was an eye opener, I had to rely on my driver for comfort. Not an easy feeling, that. If I go again and am by myself, I'll go during the day to start. Also it's not just the pimp you have to pay up front, your taxi driver if you took one there he will want to help you for an extra tip. Maybe the first time you go, you can let him help you. After that I think you should be able to shoo him away.

[QUOTE=Finrod;1129652]...... and you get to the open area. It might not be the shortest route from Colon, but it seems the most straightforward as it's very easy to get lost in the alleys as once happened to me in another slum area.[/QUOTE]This open area is the famous "basketball court".

But it is more easy to enter the basketball court from the north, when you take a walk away from San Carlos University (go left when coming from Uptown Cebu).
And go there in the afternoon in daylight, is is less frightening when you are alone. Immediately I arrived in this open place a pimp excourted me into the houses there.
Next time I maybe better try to get rid of the pimps.

You don't get rid of them. I actually turned away and walked all the way around to the other entrance and the same skannky guy still found me. I bailed out. I don't suffer fools kindly.

That being said, if you find a guy who seems nice and will help you out, go for it. I recommend you do NOT give him you phone number unless you are a really desperate sort. Get his no. Instead.

[QUOTE=Rampana; 1129921]This open area is the famous "basketball court".

But it is more easy to enter the basketball court from the north, when you take a walk away from San Carlos University (go left when coming from Uptown Cebu).

And go there in the afternoon in daylight, is is less frightening when you are alone. Immediately I arrived in this open place a pimp excourted me into the houses there.

Next time I maybe better try to get rid of the pimps. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fslag338; 1126439]Robbaf congratulations. That is just enough to organise an ISG party in Cebu with loads of girls. Admission for ISG Members free of course.

WR: I will.

WL: yes everyone has a different style I think. Any girl I write I like to fuck. If they turn out to be really nice and you can have a decent conversation with them, then I will meet them more often.

But let me know if you need somebody to back you up at the interviews. Or you do the interviews and I do the medical test.[/QUOTE]Where do you take the girl in cebu for medical tests. I have places in angeles but meeting a girl in cebu next week.

And want her tested. She all ready told me she was treated last month for an infection. Appreciate her honesty.

[QUOTE=MauiDude; 1130968]Where do you take the girl in cebu for medical tests. I have places in angeles but meeting a girl in cebu next week.

And want her tested. She all ready told me she was treated last month for an infection. Appreciate her honesty. [/QUOTE]I don't think Fslag was actually being serious about the medical testing. I don't know Fslag personally but I would bet anything that he is British, his humour certainly is and I suspect he is a reader of Viz!

[QUOTE=Mortman;1131052]I don't think Fslag was actually being serious about the medical testing. I don't know Fslag personally but I would bet anything that he is British, his humour certainly is and I suspect he is a reader of Viz![/QUOTE]Mort.

I know FS very well and he is not British but he does know me well my humour and modesty has clearly rubbed off on him no doubt LOL.

MDude: testing try Cebu Doctors as I know a few guys who take the ladies there, but the test may take more than 24 hours.

Was out tonight again around mango square. After quite a disappointing experience I decided to give it another try.

With all respect I really do not understand what is so great about it."Sitting outside is great fun","Juliana's bla bla bla" (see other reports). I think for a city with more than 800. 000 people. It compares to a village disco in Thailand. And the square itself? It is nothing, sorry to say. I believe there are nice girls in the bars around mango, but I am not a bar guy. But it could be the only positive aspect I could think of. Utter disappointment.

Mind you, my opinion about Cebu itself is totally different, I like the place and the atmosphere, friendly people and loads of hot girls. But if "that place to be" in a city of 800. 000 turns out to be a dirty small square with just a bunch of plastic chairs, then it is time for some independent consumer info.

[QUOTE=MauiDude; 1130968]Where do you take the girl in cebu for medical tests. I have places in angeles but meeting a girl in cebu next week.

And want her tested. She all ready told me she was treated last month for an infection. Appreciate her honesty. [/QUOTE]In Cebu city the best place to go is Chong Hwa Hospital near the city's central circle, by Robinsons, Fuente Osmena. Take you girl there for any tests you need. Fast, cheap, confidential. You can call for the results. Anything from pregnancy to HIV. I've used them in the past on a number of occasions.

Here's an off the wall question for you longtime Cebu punters. I am a serious basketball fan and marginal player (for my age) I have always known that basketball is a popular game in the Phil. Is there anywhere to get some game? I like the exercise. I'll be in the Cebu area for 2 weeks and I sure would like to play some pickup ball. 'Taking it to the hoop' is my favorite pastime, on and off the court. Thanks.

CC

[QUOTE=Chicochulo; 1132686]Here's an off the wall question for you longtime Cebu punters. I am a serious basketball fan and marginal player (for my age) I have always known that basketball is a popular game in the Phil. Is there anywhere to get some game? I like the exercise. I'll be in the Cebu area for 2 weeks and I sure would like to play some pickup ball. 'Taking it to the hoop' is my favorite pastime, on and off the court. Thanks.

CC[/QUOTE]Junquera (2 goals). I have played there several times in the past. Early in the day is better.

[QUOTE=MikeSaw;1132729]Junquera (2 goals). I have played there several times in the past. Early in the day is better.[/QUOTE]What? You mean they actually play ball there at the courts. The only time any "dribbling of the ball" was done was when this girl was playing with "my balls", but then it was at nite and dark at the time-ha ha.

Cheers.

FZ

[QUOTE=Fslag338; 1131094]. . . . . .

With all respect I really do not understand what is so great about it."Sitting outside is great fun","Juliana's bla bla bla" (see other reports). I think for a city with more than 800. 000 people. It compares to a village disco in Thailand. And the square itself? It is nothing, sorry to say. I believe there are nice girls in the bars around mango, but I am not a bar guy. But it could be the only positive aspect I could think of. Utter disappointment.

. . . . . . . . . . [/QUOTE]Agree wholeheartedly Fslag. It is not my scene either. Pump disco is another over-rated place. Many Korean chicks (and guys) who look right through you. Noisy as hell too.

I know you are a very experienced monger like me and yet from my perspective if you want to avoid the bars then it is much better to meet girls on DIA and offer (but never promise) to take them out for dinner, movies and then to Sunflower disco after you meet in person and check them out face to face. Most of them get really excited by this possibility.

Only once have I failed to have her come back with me to my hotel on the first meeting, and that's because I kicked her to the curb soon after we met and had a coffee. She was nothing like her profile stated nor what I saw on cam. She was clever to have the cam angled so as to deceive me about her ample waistline. Also, cams don't reveal bad breath and hygiene issues, and she appeared grubby to me LOL.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1132787]Agree wholeheartedly Fslag. It is not my scene either. Pump disco is another over-rated place. Many Korean chicks (and guys) who look right through you. Noisy as hell too.

I know you are a very experienced monger like me and yet from my perspective if you want to avoid the bars then it is much better to meet girls on DIA and offer (but never promise) to take them out for dinner, movies and then to Sunflower disco after you meet in person and check them out face to face. Most of them get really excited by this possibility. [/QUOTE]I only go to Julians / Pump / Sunflower etc when Cebu favourite is in the mood and I do enjoy watching her shake her peach with others watching. And Sunflower is OkKon a Thursday when it is ladies night but get in and out fast is my tactic unless of course Cebu favourite / hottie is with me.

I tend to avoid bars like you, only going for a particular and normally naughty reason (s)

As for finding dogs and worse, we all havae had out moments am sure (well I know for a fact LOL) but when we domeet a real cuite non WG, we forget the failures and tell everyone life is perfect in Cebu or Manila or [name the city]

As with many bars and nightclubs, things can change almost on a hourly basis and YMMV. But it is a well known fact that the bars in Mango Square specifically Juliana, is the best 'meat market' in the Visayas! Pinays come from far and wide to dance, sing and tip a few cold ones. Many times the amount of women present is amazing!

From my observations, things don't start happening until after midnight so maybe it's too late for some of the members here. Have had great success both with off duty BG and regular women that want to let loose. Of course you need to be prepared to dance and / or sing OR have some game. If not your wasting your time.

[QUOTE=Chicochulo;1132686]Here's an off the wall question for you longtime Cebu punters. I am a serious basketball fan and marginal player (for my age) I have always known that basketball is a popular game in the Phil. Is there anywhere to get some game?[/QUOTE]Go to the Cebu City Sports Complex on Jones Ave. since it is open to the public. If nothing else it is a good place to meet regular women!

There is a private sports facility called City Sports Club located near and owned by Ayala. Have not checked the place out yet but maybe they will give you a day pass if you act like a prospective member. Looks like a top notch place.

Most every barangay in Philippines has a basketball court so if your feeling like you want to test your skills, check with any barangay hall.

[QUOTE=Mattrick;1133048]specifically Juliana is the best 'meat market' in the Visayas![/QUOTE]Best to bring a pair of those foam earplugs.

Stayed in cebu two nights. Had a really good time. But not really connectiing with the girls this time.

One girl came to my place at waterfront hotel and had menstration?

The other girl I liked said her pussy hurt?

And the third girl all was lookiing good till we are walking into the hotel.

Waterfront cebu city and security takes her to the front desk with a goon

Watching everything we are doing getting ready to jump on us.

And they refused her entry.

I had reserved the room for two. When I checked in and for some odd reason? She did not have I'd?

What the fuck.

Now should I be mad at the hotel? Or mad at the girl?

I guess now I am mad at both and just figure fuck cebu. Its just not my place anymore.

I don't have this trouble most other places I go.

I have walked into fancy hotels with five girls staying with me and they don't ask for I'd?

And now I figure fuck waterfront?

Anyway I am so mad at this place. I guess it would be nice for someone to tell me that what the hotel did was right?

I do understand the security sitution but if the room is in my name and I am financially responsible then

My guest is my responsibility?

[QUOTE=MauiDude; 1134042]Stayed in cebu two nights. Had a really good time. But not really connectiing with the girls this time.

One girl came to my place at waterfront hotel and had menstration?

The other girl I liked said her pussy hurt?

And the third girl all was lookiing good till we are walking into the hotel.

Waterfront cebu city and security takes her to the front desk with a goon

Watching everything we are doing getting ready to jump on us.

And they refused her entry.

I had reserved the room for two. When I checked in and for some odd reason? She did not have I'd?

What the fuck.

Now should I be mad at the hotel? Or mad at the girl?

I guess now I am mad at both and just figure fuck cebu. Its just not my place anymore.

I don't have this trouble most other places I go.

I have walked into fancy hotels with five girls staying with me and they don't ask for I'd?

And now I figure fuck waterfront?

Anyway I am so mad at this place. I guess it would be nice for someone to tell me that what the hotel did was right?

I do understand the security sitution but if the room is in my name and I am financially responsible then

My guest is my responsibility? [/QUOTE]Mhhhhh, I did the research before and I think it was on their webside were they mentioned I'd for guests after 10 or 11. Since I knew I asked they girls I picked up if they have I'd. At least in the bar they must have in case of police checks, One girl had to get it from her locker, it wasnt actually an I'd but a health certificate from her monthly check with a foto on it. (made me even feel more save). She had to sign in and show I'd at the desk thats it.

For me the walk of shame was a little akward but I felt very safe and slept well knowing the girl couldn't rip me off and leave without getting in trouble.

Anyway the hotels know that stuff like this happens (stealing, breaking stuff etc.) so I think its a good idea.

[QUOTE=Osuul; 1134089]Mhhhhh, I did the research before and I think it was on their webside were they mentioned I'd for guests after 10 or 11. Since I knew I asked they girls I picked up if they have I'd. At least in the bar they must have in case of police checks, One girl had to get it from her locker, it wasnt actually an I'd but a health certificate from her monthly check with a foto on it. (made me even feel more save). She had to sign in and show I'd at the desk thats it.

For me the walk of shame was a little akward but I felt very safe and slept well knowing the girl couldn't rip me off and leave without getting in trouble.

Anyway the hotels know that stuff like this happens (stealing, breaking stuff etc.) so I think its a good idea.[/QUOTE]Yes you are probably right. And the girl may have had an I'd and said she didn't so she could then take off ?

She was not new to working a bar.

She called me the next day and said she wanted to see me. The hotel does not ask for I'd during the day.

But I don't trust her and have been thinking she is more the problem and I just have to think it was her way of.

Leaving without doing anything.

Are all girls liars.

My other girl in angeles says its my fault for not verifying she had I'd. Okay so lesson learned

Lady goes by the name of Mugblood on DIA. She may well have been on the end of a few ISG members members already. But if not. She must be worth a shot! Or two!

I'm on the ground in Cebu again. With the unpleasantness in tokyo with rolling blackouts, train delays and shortages of milk / eggs / bread / etc. I decided to move my lasik plans forward.

Just did a quick barhop tonight. 3 bars and hit up Julianas (lots of action but nothing that interested me.

Things of note:

* The new bar Amigos next to Red Lips is Ok. Independent ownership, a french guy I'm told. LD are 150.

* Pussycats has reduced their barfine but seems to have DLDs available so expect to be hustled for them. My favorite girl there was happy to see me but forgot that I was living in Tokyo so thankfully wasn't panicing the way my GF has been this last week.

I have some appointments with DIA contacts old and new in the coming days.

Why do you guys put an apostrophe in ID? Just asking.

LexLuther

[QUOTE=LexLuther; 1135806]Why do you guys put an apostrophe in ID? Just asking.

LexLuther[/QUOTE]Probably happens with spellcheck I'd guess.

[QUOTE=Tally Wacker;1135904]Probably happens with spellcheck I'd guess.[/QUOTE]Spellcheck changes it to I'd.

If you go to "edit" and change it to I D then it is OK.

Alternatively, better to put a space between the I and D in your original post and it works.

I have been amused by the incidence of it in posts - seems to me that guys don't re-read their posts to check for glitches once they hit the post button.

Does any member have or has had experience of a girl / women from dia goes by the name Joan Cali,

Is there an agency in Cebu that can do checks? Or could be recommended for doing checks.

[QUOTE=Mongrinastrlnd;1135791]I'm on the ground in Cebu again . . . I decided to move my lasik plans forward.[/QUOTE]You are having your lasik done in Cebu? Just curious. I'm considering it too. But I was planning on having it done in US, where I live. I suppose this kind of stuff is less expensive in Phi though. Do a lot of people do this? Is it quality, reliable work?

[QUOTE=Triple Stacks;1136192]You are having your lasik done in Cebu? Just curious. I'm considering it too. But I was planning on having it done in US, where I live. I suppose this kind of stuff is less expensive in Phi though. Do a lot of people do this? Is it quality, reliable work?[/QUOTE]There are 3 top-tier places in Philippines for lasik. Two of them are in Manila (Makati Medical and St. Luke's) and the third is in Cebu at Cebu Doctor's University Hospital. Doctor Larrazabal at Cebu Doc is probably the best known in the country. He's kind of a rock-star surgeon too, married to Donna Cruz, the actress / singer.

The price is not all that different from what I'd be paying in Japan or the US for the work actually. There are some cut-rate clinics in all 3 countries though that I would not touch.

Obligatory monger section of post:

Met up with Miss F yesterday. a DIA girl I first met last september (interesting story,fslag or roger would probably tell it better though) and sent her a text when I arrived the other day. Found out she moved to different province since, but happened to be in Cebu this week visiting her auntie. Came right over to my hotel for a quickie. Quality experience, only time for one pop though.

Before meeting up with Miss H at pussycats I stopped in at Sisters. My experience with this place runs hot and cold. A lot of girls, some not the greatest lookers but some pretty good that are pretty agressive in the drink-hustling department. The thing is its probably the raunchiest bar in the Mango area. Monger junior was really getting the hard-sell by a pair of cuties and he was really tempted but I had promised Miss H that I'd be back there tonight for her.

I've talked about Miss H a couple times previous. I think that as of my last trip a month ago, I've already lost any ability to barfine anyone else at Pussycats because I'm marked property there.

Anyhow, I'm off to Tacloban in a few hours to go see my girl there for a while before the surgery. That will be a no-monger period though. Getting back to Cebu middle of next week when I have 2 or 3 dates set up with new DIA girls (18, 18 and 19, one of the 18yos I still haven't gotten on the camera yet though).

[QUOTE=Mongrinastrlnd;1136318]There are 3 top-tier places in Philippines for lasik. Two of them are in Manila (Makati Medical and St. Luke's) and the third is in Cebu at Cebu Doctor's University Hospital. Doctor Larrazabal at Cebu Doc is probably the best known in the country. He's kind of a rock-star surgeon too, married to Donna Cruz, the actress / singer.[/QUOTE]There are others Mongrina who are just as good and have better accreditation.

I had mine done in 2001 in the American Eye Center in Shangri-la Mall, Ortigas.

It cost me the same for 2 eyes as it would have for one eye in Australia, and was very very professionally done by doctors trained in US.

They are amazed by my results. I still have 20/20 vision and still don't need reading glasses and before the lasik I was using contact lenses for 38 years.

Just remember that the eye needs to recover for an extended period afterwards so you need to stay put (and not fly) for a fixed period afterwards. Don't plan to fly in, have it done and fly home again like you can for dental work.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1136337]There are others Mongrina who are just as good and have better accreditation.

I had mine done in 2001 in the American Eye Center in Shangri-la Mall, Ortigas.

It cost me the same for 2 eyes as it would have for one eye in Australia, and was very very professionally done by doctors trained in US.

They are amazed by my results. I still have 20/20 vision and still don't need reading glasses and before the lasik I was using contact lenses for 38 years.

Just remember that the eye needs to recover for an extended period afterwards so you need to stay put (and not fly) for a fixed period afterwards. Don't plan to fly in, have it done and fly home again like you can for dental work. [/QUOTE]I'd heard mention of American Eye, but all the data was stale, nothing recent.

I'm planning on sticking around Visayas for about 3 weeks and have a 1 year open return ticket in any case so I can be flexible based on the situation on the ground in Tokyo.

The restrictions on flight though seem to be a lot less strict than they used to. They were OK with me taking a short domestic flight (40 minute) away and back for my one-week post-op checkup once they okayed me after the 1-day followup.

Prices on lasik worldwide have come down a lot in the last 10 years, there's not much of a discount for having the work done in the PI any more. In my case I'd only save about 10-20% vs having it done in Tokyo.

I talked to a friend of mine, who is a filipina, a single mom, and she told me that she had been robbed recently near Ayala. She sais that she was walking to a jeepney to go to her work at 8pm near Marriott when some guy pointed a gun at her and told her to give him everything she had in her bag. Sounds like she was telling me the truth. Is Cebu really this unsafe a place these days? Or was she just telling me a story to ask me for money later? I dont think so because she never has done this and I dont think she will ask me but she just said she had now some problems with her ATM card.

Of course there are bad people everywhere in Phils and anything can happen sometimes...

I walked around the Marriott a lot both during day and night in the past weeks and not even 1 time did I have an uneasy feeling. Like you said P it can happen everywhere.

[QUOTE=Pekkakoo; 1137222]I talked to a friend of mine, who is a filipina, a single mom, and she told me that she had been robbed recently near Ayala. She sais that she was walking to a jeepney to go to her work at 8pm near Marriott when some guy pointed a gun at her and told her to give him everything she had in her bag. Sounds like she was telling me the truth. Is Cebu really this unsafe a place these days? Or was she just telling me a story to ask me for money later? I don't think so because she never has done this and I don't think she will ask me but she just said she had now some problems with her ATM card.

Of course there are bad people everywhere in Phils and anything can happen sometimes. [/QUOTE]Shit can happen anywhere in PI. Less likely in certain parts of Cebu like the Ayala mall and more likely in the Carbon market area at nite. But can see if a mugger not getting anything at the low end of town heading to uptown to score is not out of the question either.

[QUOTE=Fslag338;1137253]I walked around the Marriott a lot both during day and night in the past weeks and not even 1 time did I have an uneasy feeling. Like you said P it can happen everywhere.[/QUOTE]I also walked around Ayala a lot when I was a few days in Cebu last year and felt like it was a very safe place with lots of security around because of the mall, Marriott, foreigners etc. And people around there seemed sort of from better class. I also walked from there to Robinson's, Fuente Osmana and Mango square during evenings without any trouble at all. No one ever stopped me. Still overall anything can happen there, some alleys where I was walking it felt like taking a cab could have been a better idea maybe only because Cebu is not built for pedestrians it seems and some streets are quiet and a bit creepy when alone.

Of course Thailand overall in probably more safe than Phils. At least in Bangkok where I stayed a few months I never ever could have imagined someone pulling out a gun to rob you in the streets.

Still I think I am heading back to Cebu in May...

[QUOTE=Pekkakoo; 1137222]. . . . . <SNIP

Of course there are bad people everywhere in Phils and anything can happen sometimes. [/QUOTE]Unfortunately, you're right. You just have to back the odds, and they are much lower around places like Ayala in Cebu. However, evn though this is the Cebu thread, I should add that after 13 years in the Philippines with absolutely no street problems whatsoever anywhere in the country during that time, I had a gold bracelet snipped off my wrist in the midst of a crowd of pedestrians on EDSA in front of SM Megamall in Ortigas Center at 3pm late last year.

The whole thing took 3 seconds, and even Jackie Chan couldn't have done anything about it.

Two guys. One tapped my left shoulder and as I turned to see who it was the second guy grabbed my right arm from behind, cut the chain with small pliers, and they both ran straight into the EDSA traffic and disappeared. I am tall and fit and I was striding along purposefully but they were still confident enough to tackle me using surprise tactics. I am always aware of where I am but I had absolutely no warning nor did I remotely expect that such a thing would happen. A few people around shrieked when they saw what was happening but it was so fast that there was no time for anyone to react.

A security guy who saw it said that it is one of those things that nobody can do anything about, and I was lucky that I was not injured. He told me that if I had by some chance grabbed the wrist of the guy who cut the chain, the other guy would have slipped a knife into me.

I wear no jewellery any more, carry my cell phone out of sight, use a money clip and not a wallet, because I have seen at first hand that shit can happen ANYWHERE, and such a thing could easily have happened strolling between (say) Marriott or Parklane or Fuente Osmena, strolls that I have done many many times.

Unfortunately, once you're targeted there isn't too much you can do about it, despite the invincible bravado that some wannabe Jackie Chan / Jean C Van Damme's might think they have.

[QUOTE=Pekkakoo;1137222]Is Cebu really this unsafe a place these days? Or was she just telling me a story to ask me for money later?[/QUOTE]Yes it is a fairly common occurrence with young women in and around jeepneys, usually at night.

One of my gf was robbed about the same time a month ago. She was on her way to her IT job and was relieved of her cell phone, purse and company ID. It was a first for her and she was crushed. But I would not be too worried about it personally as robbers always go for the weakest targets.

[QUOTE=Mattrick; 1137527]Yes it is a fairly common occurrence with young women in and around jeepneys, usually at night.

One of my gf was robbed about the same time a month ago. She was on her way to her IT job and was relieved of her cell phone, purse and company I'd. It was a first for her and she was crushed. But I would not be too worried about it personally as robbers always go for the weakest targets. [/QUOTE]I have a friend from Canada who was rob at knife point while walking one night in Manila. When he notice that the Filipino thug was small, he punch him on the nose and made the thug beg for his life. Funny but true.

I did my homework and it paid off. Apart from reviewing all the back pages in this section, I took the time to look at Cebu and the Ayala Mall with the help of youtube. I felt right at home as soon as I hit the pavement.

At the Ayala Mall, I recognived some of the freelancing duo acts that have been mentioned here before. The mall is packed with potential. I felt like a kid in a candy store.

Having travelled to many parts of the world, my take on the safety issue here in Cebu is a definite a yellow alert. There are always groups of young punks sitting around areas where us foriegners frequent. Of course, they are looking for the weak ones so don't behave poorly. Anyone that wonders into side streets at night is asking for trouble.

In general, I like Cebu because of the people. So far, the service I've received from hotel and mall staff has been excellent. The next 2 weeks will be an interesting adventure.

CC

[QUOTE=Nolz7;1137540]I have a friend from Canada who was rob at knife point while walking one night in Manila. When he notice that the Filipino thug was small, he punch him on the nose and made the thug beg for his life. Funny but true.[/QUOTE]Your friend was lucky that he met a solo thug. Most of these guys work in pairs or threes and they watch out for one another.

If they target you and you fight back then you need to be careful there isn't someone behind you with a big-ass dagger or even a gun. All of my security briefings here have mentioned this factor so just be warned.

I know many guys here think they are 10 foot tall and bullet-proof but you may not be able to take on 2 or 3 of these wiry little buggers at the same time, even if your heroes can do it in the movies.

Guys.

Cebu City IMHO is no more dangerous than most European Cities, in fact I feel safer walking around Cebu City late at night than I ever would do in certain areas of London where I live.

Common sense is the order of the day, no matter what city or country you find yourself mongering in. Victims are often targeted because they look like victims and they are not alert or fully aware of their surroundings. Most attacks rely on the element of surprise and if you remain alert then you reduce the likelihood of an attack. However as RK has highlighted, attacks do occur when and where you least expect them and in broad daylight with hundreds of witnesses around.

I have never been so unfortunate to have been robbed although I have thwarted one or two attempts in the last few years. I have no illusions about being heroic, if I sensed there was a risk of serious injury or death I would gladly hand over whatever I had. At the end of the day, personal belongings can be replaced, your life cannot and your penis cannot!

FelloW Mongers,

Ready for my 13th trip to P. I but 1st to Cebu. Read alot of threads to this regard! Staying at a resort out on Mactan, how long in minutes by taxi into Cebu City (Mango Square). Will probably hire a dude for the night to hit all suggested spots .

I also Heard of a hotel on Mactan with a massage parlor on the top floor, anyone know of this treat? Any and all advice is appreciated.

Manila14

[QUOTE=Manila14; 1139354]FelloW Mongers,

Ready for my 13th trip to P. I but 1st to Cebu. Read alot of threads to this regard! Staying at a resort out on Mactan, how long in minutes by taxi into Cebu City (Mango Square). Will probably hire a dude for the night to hit all suggested spots.

I also Heard of a hotel on Mactan with a massage parlor on the top floor, anyone know of this treat? Any and all advice is appreciated.

Manila14[/QUOTE]You have been to the Phil already 12 times. But you have only 2 posts and only asking questions. So I assume you must have been very very busy between your 12 trips, but luckily for us you find the time to formulate another question.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Manila14; 1139354]FelloW Mongers,

Ready for my 13th trip to P. I but 1st to Cebu. Read alot of threads to this regard! Staying at a resort out on Mactan, how long in minutes by taxi into Cebu City (Mango Square). Will probably hire a dude for the night to hit all suggested spots.

I also Heard of a hotel on Mactan with a massage parlor on the top floor, anyone know of this treat? Any and all advice is appreciated.

Manila14[/QUOTE]You did not mention the reason for your trip, but if it is primarily for mongering then I would forget Mactan and stay in Cebu City. The subject you have asked about has been covered in great detail many times if you read back through the posts. Mactan can be a real pain to get to and from as most of the action is located in Cebu City and Mandaue. If you travel in the morning or evening rush hour, expect your journey to take around 45 minutes or more from Mango Square to Mactan. If you are travelling late at night and want to get back to Mactan getting a taxi can sometimes be a real problem and if you do find one willing to take you, expect to pay a premium for the pleasure. The resorts on Mactan are over priced and out of the way, the beaches are more like mud flats and the nightlife and bars though available are nothing in comparison to what you can find in the city

I have a friend in Cebu and he emailed me asking if there was any where in Cebu where he could catch the final four games. Anyone know of a place?

Thanks.

Robb

[QUOTE=Robbaf; 1139695]I have a friend in Cebu and he emailed me asking if there was any where in Cebu where he could catch the final four games. Anyone know of a place?

Thanks.

Robb[/QUOTE]I would think your best bet would be sports exchange in mango square.

Reports suggesting Cebu is as safe as many European cities is going a tad too far.

If you are alone and walking between Mango Square and Osmena Circle at night,

Beware the pack of young kids that cruise this area. Often they are high on gas fumes.

Or perhaps shabu. They can be very aggressive. Several may begin to hunt in a manner.

Similar to a wolf pack. They will test your reactions to their begging and if sensing

Vulnerability, can move in, shoving a little kid into you, as a distraction, as another goes for your wallet.

They can be quite brazen, not at all concerned that other pedestrians may be around.

Be aware, be careful, and always be prepared for potential danger at night in most areas of downtown Cebu.

[QUOTE=Robbaf;1139695]I have a friend in Cebu and he emailed me asking if there was any where in Cebu where he could catch the final four games. Anyone know of a place?[/QUOTE]There is a sports bar upstairs from Juliana in Mango Square but hard to say if they will be open that early.

First game starts at 6:00 AM local time, second game at 9:00.

Go Bulldogs!

[QUOTE=Cansx;1139793]I would think your best bet would be sports exchange in mango square.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Mattrick; 1139954]There is a sports bar upstairs from Juliana in Mango Square but hard to say if they will be open that early.

First game starts at 6:00 AM local time, second game at 9:00.

Go Bulldogs! [/QUOTE]Thanks for the replies. I also told him to check TGIF.

Robb

[QUOTE=D Cups;1139964]Hi Guys especially RK. I'm staying at Cebu R Hotel on Don Mariano Cul Street May 21 and 22. Are there any clubs nearby, please? (within walking distance) Thanks![/QUOTE]D Cups I expect we will catch up in Manila before you go to Cebu but in case we don't. . . .

Your hotel has you placed with a 5 minute walk to Fuente Osmena which is a large roundabout between Jones Ave and Osmena Blvd. You will walk down Osmena Blvd from your hotel until you reach Fuente Osmena where you will see the famous Robinsons Dept Store (with the ground floor Bo'S Coffee shop which can be a meeting place) and numerous patrolling FLs on most floors (most of whom I wouldn't touch with a dick and 2 condoms but many other guys don't share my tastes).

You can either head off down Gen Maxilom Ave (aka Mango Ave) to around 8 bars on both sides of the road (about 10 mins walk) or you can go down Jones Ave about 100 meters and check out Silver Dollar (open all day).

In walking along Mango Ave you will pass by Mango Square that has Juliana's Disco and a few others too but you wouldn't notice them in the day time.

Walk it during the day to check out where these places are. You don't want to be wandering around at night looking like you don't know where you are (see other posts on this thread).

Easier to get a cab and ask for "Robinsons" or "Silver Dollar" or ask for the "Mango bars"

If my evil eye doesn't scare them away I bellow like some kind of enraged buffalo. That usually scares them away. Just act crazier than they are. They will leave you alone. Better yet, raise your fists and look maniacal as they approach and they won't even get close to you. That being said, if I come across a beggar that is handicapped or elderly, I will part with my change.

I never give anything to the kids, nor the fake mothers of babies. Give 'them food if you have a soft heart, casue any money you give will go to their minders. X.

[QUOTE=Questor55; 1139912]Reports suggesting Cebu is as safe as many European cities is going a tad too far.

If you are alone and walking between Mango Square and Osmena Circle at night,

Beware the pack of young kids that cruise this area. Often they are high on gas fumes.

Or perhaps shabu. They can be very aggressive. Several may begin to hunt in a manner.

Similar to a wolf pack. They will test your reactions to their begging and if sensing

Vulnerability, can move in, shoving a little kid into you, as a distraction, as another goes for your wallet.

They can be quite brazen, not at all concerned that other pedestrians may be around.

Be aware, be careful, and always be prepared for potential danger at night in most areas of downtown Cebu. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Questor55; 1139912]Reports suggesting Cebu is as safe as many European cities is going a tad too far.

Be aware, be careful, and always be prepared for potential danger at night in most areas of downtown Cebu. [/QUOTE]Perhaps I have been lucky, I have never ever had a serious problem in Cebu City and I have walked round some of the very worst areas of downtown late at night. Maybe my perceptions are wrong, however given a choice between walking round certain areas of London late at night, compared with downtown Cebu City, London would always come second. The advice you have given is sound advice but it is applicable to every foreign city you visit, especially where you are unsure of your surroundings.

[QUOTE=Mortman;1140451]Perhaps I have been lucky, I have never ever had a serious problem in Cebu City and I have walked round some of the very worst areas of downtown late at night. Maybe my perceptions are wrong, however given a choice between walking round certain areas of London late at night, compared with downtown Cebu City, London would always come second. The advice you have given is sound advice but it is applicable to every foreign city you visit, especially where you are unsure of your surroundings.[/QUOTE]I agree Mort but the main point of my earlier post was not to say that Cebu or Manila was any more dangerous that anywhere else but that "shit happens" whenever you least expect it so we should be prepared for that unexpected day. I was really freaked out by being robbed at 3pm in broad daylight on EDSA in the midst of a crowd of people precisely because I was absolutely not even remotely expecting it. I am now MUCH more prepared when I go out, even down to having a small cheap wallet in my pocket with out-dated credit cards and 200 php in it. I may never have to hand it over but it is cheap and easy insurance.

Would any body recommend any friendly convenient hotel in cebu city with gym except parklane, marriet or waterfront?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Zinda;1140698]Would any body recommend any friendly convenient hotel in cebu city with gym except parklane, marriet or waterfront?[/QUOTE]

1. Radisson Blu
2. Crown Regency Hotel and Towers
3. Midtown Hotel

I work hard all year and going to have a 20 days of vacation in August. I am 29 and I enjoy doing other touristic stuff besides mongering. I like to spoil myself when I am in vacation. I can't spend massive amounts of money, but don't need to count every penny I spent. I also like chasing for freebies, just for the thrill of the hunt. Mongered in Shanghai, Penang, KL, BKK, Pattaya, S'pore and HK before so I am not that green. August is still months away, but that does not stop me from planning my ultimate summer trip:

-2 days in HK: (weekend) Want to try DH scene, or can try K pressure. I had tried 141 hotel girls so want to try something different. Going to eat at temple street restaurants and try wan chai bars. Also can meet with some ladies I met online through F. Cupid. Planning to stay in beverly hotel close to 100 $ range.

-8 days in cebu:well never been to phils, it will be my first time. I don't really enjoy Pattaya or angeles city theme, and I feel so green for Manila so picked Cebu thinking its a bit cleaner and safer than Manila. Also think freebie scene is better. Already opened a profile in FC (can't log in to DIA from my country) and collecting ladies who are "interested" One month prior to my trip I am planning to become a member and collect their contacts. Also going to try the mall scene and definately visit the bars at Mango Avenue. Will try restaurants that are mentioned in Cebu Restaurants thread, Lemon Grass probably because I like Thai food hehe. Will not try basketball court or other casas, I think other options are enough to keep me occupied. Planning to stay in parklane or waterfront.

-3 Days in Macau: Been to HK but never been there. Going to try the sauna scene. (sanado and Darling I am planning) Also won't mind losing some money at casinos. And hit the bars, visit the Lisboa race track and possibly get rejected hehe. Planning to stay in holiday inn, emperor, royal or metropark.

-4-5 days in HK: Back to HK. Will follow my routine. Visit ocean park with one of my contacts do my usual stuff. But surely want to try mongolians this time so going to visit Hari's.

Here are my questions:

-I can't change the date of my vacation and concerned about the weather in HK and Cebu. Is it really that bad?

-Have doubts about Cebu. Is there anything else to do besides the malls and the girls in Cebu City? Can visit Bohol for a day or two but, I need things to occupy me during day time and when I m sober.

-Safety in Cebu, I know common sense and being street smart goes a long way but are there any scams which are common like the temple is closed scam in Thailand? Also heard about electricity and water shortages in Phils, wonder that if it applies to Cebu.

-From the FR's Sanado sauna is good quality, good selection of Chinese dolls and great management. Darling18 is good for variety and number of girls. I know quality is relative but want to know if you have other recommendations about saunas.

I also appreciate other comments and advices. Still have more than hundred days I have to waste so I can re schedue my plans.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1140529]I am now MUCH more prepared when I go out, even down to having a small cheap wallet in my pocket with out-dated credit cards and 200 php in it. I may never have to hand it over but it is cheap and easy insurance.[/QUOTE]I think this is very very good advice. I once watched an interesting documentary on travelling abroad and self protection issues. This same advice was proffered then and I remember at the time thinking what a good idea it was. Trouble is that I am so lazy and disorganised that I have never have had such a wallet prepared. One day I will eventually get robbed and then I will get my ass into gear. Nothing like shutting the stable door once the horse has bolted!

[quote=sahinaga; 1141110]here are my questions:

-i can't change the date of my vacation and concerned about the weather in hk and cebu. is it really that bad?

-have doubts about cebu. is there anything else to do besides the malls and the girls in cebu city? can visit bohol for a day or two but, i need things to occupy me during day time and when i m sober.

-safety in cebu, i know common sense and being street smart goes a long way but are there any scams which are common like the temple is closed scam in thailand? also heard about electricity and water shortages in phils, wonder that if it applies to cebu.

-from the fr's sanado sauna is good quality, good selection of chinese dolls and great management. darling18 is good for variety and number of girls. i know quality is relative but want to know if you have other recommendations about saunas.

i also appreciate other comments and advices. still have more than hundred days i have to waste so i can re schedue my plans.

thanks in advance[/quote]sahin, i can't answer your questions about hk, but in response to cebu:

weather: august in cebu will be hot (28c. 32c) , humid and probably rainy or at least overcast. good news is that there's also a brisk sea breeze. it's a bit cooler a few months later, but you should be ok in august if you're acclimated to the heat, dress appropriately, and watch your water intake. if a storm blows through there is still plenty to do indoors until it passes.

activities: plenty to do to keep you busy for 8 days. besides girls and malls, there are restaurants, fine hotels (both waterfronts, marco polo) , touristy historical sites, movies, etc. there's also tops on the mountain overlooking the city, a scenic trip on its own (best by habal-habal) with restos, bars, and even a series of zip lines on the way up. and of course diving, snorkeling and the other [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117][CodeWord117][/url]. if you get out with some locals (or a gf / tour guide who's into doing stuff with you other than the horizontal) , getting out is a much better experience. bohol / panglao island is a short side trip by fast cat, mostly what's there is a better beach with more of a casual nightlife all within easy walking distance. plus the chocolate hills / loboc river / tarsier tour if you're so inclined. not a place to find a girl, but a great place to bring one if you want a 1-2 night side trip to enjoy the casual beach experience.

safety: much safer even than manila, i was not uncomfortable anywhere there. standard precautions of not walking around drunk, not flashing cash or expensive jewelry / cell phone, not going to private card games, being wary of freelancers, etc. not hard to find a wingman if you want, especially if you get an early start on the evening. water available at every store, and brownouts ought not to be a problem, especially at the hotels you mentioned. i'd be shocked if they didn't have their own backup generators on the off chance of a brownout.

cebu is a good choice for your first trip to p. i. ac is a must-see for a future trip but that's the place where you might worry about getting bored on an 8-day trip. not cebu.

Hey Guys,

Long time reader, first time poster to the forum, First I want to thank everyone for all the information you guys have provided on cebu. It has saved me lots of time, money, as well as help me make good decisions.

Now that is out of the way, I have been to cebu city a few times and have been downtown a few times. It is obviously not hard to find woman, they find you. But I was looking for some advance mongering info on the downtown seen. I have not been to Juanqura (sp obviously wrong) but it seems like it is not hard to find.

I have seen the pimps walking downtown, An experienced person told me just ignore them, they just want a cut and will cost you more.

Lastly coming from the airport to cebu city I saw about 40 girls working a street corner, about half way from the airport, did not ask the cab driver details but it was pretty obvious what was going on. Does anyone have details on this area or. Feel free to pm me, thanks so much in advance.

I have read the forum front to back, just looking for detailded info from the great peple here.

Thanks

[QUOTE=SahinAga; 1141110]I work hard all year and going to have a 20 days of vacation in August. I am 29 and I enjoy doing other touristic stuff besides mongering. I like to spoil myself when I am in vacation. I can't spend massive amounts of money, but don't need to count every penny I spent. I also like chasing for freebies, just for the thrill of the hunt. Mongered in Shanghai, Penang, KL, BKK, Pattaya, S'pore and HK before so I am not that green.

-2 days in HK: (weekend) Want to try DH scene, or can try K pressure. I had tried 141 hotel girls so want to try something different. Going to eat at temple street restaurants and try wan chai bars. Also can meet with some ladies I met online through F. Cupid. Planning to stay in beverly hotel close to 100 $ range.

-8 days in cebu:well never been to phils, it will be my first time. I don't really enjoy Pattaya or angeles city theme, and I feel so green for Manila so picked Cebu thinking its a bit cleaner and safer than Manila. Also think freebie scene is better. Already opened a profile in FC (can't log in to DIA from my country) and collecting ladies who are "interested" One month prior to my trip I am planning to become a member and collect their contacts. Also going to try the mall scene and definately visit the bars at Mango Avenue. Will try restaurants that are mentioned in Cebu Restaurants thread, Lemon Grass probably because I like Thai food hehe. Will not try basketball court or other casas, I think other options are enough to keep me occupied. Planning to stay in parklane or waterfront.

-3 Days in Macau: Been to HK but never been there. Going to try the sauna scene. (sanado and Darling I am planning) Also won't mind losing some money at casinos. And hit the bars, visit the Lisboa race track and possibly get rejected hehe. Planning to stay in holiday inn, emperor, royal or metropark.

-4-5 days in HK: Back to HK. Will follow my routine. Visit ocean park with one of my contacts do my usual stuff. But surely want to try mongolians this time so going to visit Hari's.

Here are my questions:

-Have doubts about Cebu. Is there anything else to do besides the malls and the girls in Cebu City? Can visit Bohol for a day or two but, I need things to occupy me during day time and when I m sober.

I also appreciate other comments and advices. Still have more than hundred days I have to waste so I can re schedue my plans. [/QUOTE]Little confused on what you mean by can't spend massive amounts of money but don't have to watch your pennies. Based on the information you are giving, it sounds like your somewhat of a high roller. Maybe saying what you are willing to spend a day and break it down may be helpful on your situation a little better?

I think spending 8 days in Cebu may be a bit much. I think I'd get bored, but I don't go looking for freebies like that, so maybe for you it would be different. I am not an Angeles or Pattaya fan myself, just not my scene although usually a lot better if you have a wingman. If not, I prefer the bigger cities. I think you should consider staying in Makati which is close to Manila and relatively cheap to get to by taxi. Are you into water activities like diving and snorkeling and swimming? Maybe consider Sabang near Puerto Gallera? They have girlie bars there, but freebies probably doubtful. The only problem is that it may not be a good time taking a boat ride over there with the weather the way it is as they may not allow the travel.

Just giving you some other suggestions to look at, just in case you get bored in Cebu which I think may happen within a few days if things don't go according to planned. Domestic flights are relatively cheap and can be booked somewhat last minute. Eight days isn't a lot, so wouldn't worry about getting freebies too much and make sure you get it period.

[QUOTE=Cuchulain; 1141618]Hey Guys,

Long time reader, first time poster to the forum, First I want to thank everyone for all the information you guys have provided on cebu. It has saved me lots of time, money, as well as help me make good decisions.

Now that is out of the way, I have been to cebu city a few times and have been downtown a few times. It is obviously not hard to find woman, they find you. But I was looking for some advance mongering info on the downtown seen. I have not been to Juanqura (sp obviously wrong) but it seems like it is not hard to find.

I have seen the pimps walking downtown, An experienced person told me just ignore them, they just want a cut and will cost you more.

Lastly coming from the airport to cebu city I saw about 40 girls working a street corner, about half way from the airport, did not ask the cab driver details but it was pretty obvious what was going on. Does anyone have details on this area or. Feel free to pm me, thanks so much in advance.

I have read the forum front to back, just looking for detailded info from the great peple here.

Thanks[/QUOTE]You have been befour then why you need to ask? As you should know what you looking for?

Cebu is not as clean as you think, SahinAga. Cebu City is as dirty and smoggy as Manila. I haven't been to the beach there yet, tho.

There are several areas of Colon Street where you will find street hookers if that's what you're into. The corners of Colon and Pelaez Street is especially full of them, seemingly any hour of the night or day. There are full timers with mamasans and also schoolgirls who are only there part time, or so they say. The female mamasans I dealt with were mostly OK, just be firm with them about what you want or don't want. They're looking for repeat business so it does them no good to rip you off and they know that. You will also be asked to go look at the girls in the boarding houses that are apparently nearby but I never bothered with that. It's probably safe but I just don't like being led to places I'm not familiar with by someone I don't know.

There are several worn out malls within a few blocks of that spot as well where you will definitely get the eye from any number of shop girls and others just roaming around. On my trip there a few months ago, I was handed a half dozen phone numbers from a group of uniformed schoolgirls who approached me inside Gaisano Metro Mall. I didn't ask, they just offered.

There are also a few local discos on Sanciangko Street, a block north of Colon Street, where you can find teenage girls from age 14 and up (one of them told me she was 13) who are willing to go home with you. Obviously, use discretion and seek out those who are older. The discos are very local and a bit unnerving for the Cebu novice because of the gangs of touts who will approach you and want to bring you inside. For a commission from the club owners, apparently. Just be friendly and smile a lot and you'll be fine.

I tried the basketball courts twice at different times of the day and didn't like the pressure and the crowding so I left both times without partaking. I think no need to go there again.

Do us a favor and file a report when you're done eh?

[QUOTE=Cuchulain; 1141618]Hey Guys,

Long time reader, first time poster to the forum, First I want to thank everyone for all the information you guys have provided on cebu. It has saved me lots of time, money, as well as help me make good decisions.

Now that is out of the way, I have been to cebu city a few times and have been downtown a few times. It is obviously not hard to find woman, they find you. But I was looking for some advance mongering info on the downtown seen. I have not been to Juanqura (sp obviously wrong) but it seems like it is not hard to find.

I have seen the pimps walking downtown, An experienced person told me just ignore them, they just want a cut and will cost you more.

Lastly coming from the airport to cebu city I saw about 40 girls working a street corner, about half way from the airport, did not ask the cab driver details but it was pretty obvious what was going on. Does anyone have details on this area or. Feel free to pm me, thanks so much in advance.

I have read the forum front to back, just looking for detailded info from the great peple here.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mattrick; 1140960]1. Radisson Blu

2. Crown Regency Hotel and Towers.

3. Midtown Hotel[/QUOTE]Cebu Midtown Hotel, due to its location right on top the Robinson Place Mall and a short walk from Mango Square. I tried Parklane and moved out, back to Midtown. Nothing wrong the place, as its just a short walk from Ayala Mall, but once the mall closes, there's nothing of interest anywhere nearby other than one disco.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1140163]Easier to get a cab and ask for "Robinsons" or "Silver Dollar" or ask for the "Mango bars"[/QUOTE]As some of you may or may not know Silver Dollar has been closed since April 1st and that is no April fools joke. Plenty of rumors on what happened and what is to come floating around but since I have not heard anything factual I will decline to post about it.

I was at another bar a few days ago and the old mamasan and some of the waitress visited while barhopping with two of the regular customers from SD. It was someones birthday in the group and they ordered alot of drinks. I don't really know anyone of them that well so I just said Hello, and watched from across the bar. The bar in question charged all the drinks as customer drinks and one of the women in the group secretly asked to have the drinks changed to lady drinks so they could keep and share the extra 50P drink commision. Not only did they get drunk but they were making a profit off the two longtime SD customers and they had no clue.

It just goes to show they can and will drain you of every last centavo if you are not careful, and even if you do pay close attention there are numerous other ways they can find a way into your pockets.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1142075]As some of you may or may not know Silver Dollar has been closed since April 1st and that is no April fools joke. Plenty of rumors on what happened and what is to come floating around but since I have not heard anything factual I will decline to post about it.

[/QUOTE]I am shocked and dismayed about this Stroker.

No visit to Cebu was ever complete without dropping into Silver Dollar. Some of my visits lasted 5 minutes and others lasted 5 hours plus plus.

I hope it can be revived.

[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo; 1141841]There are several areas of Colon Street where you will find street hookers if that's what you're into. The corners of Colon and Pelaez Street is especially full of them, seemingly any hour of the night or day. There are full timers with mamasans and also schoolgirls who are only there part time, or so they say. The female mamasans I dealt with were mostly OK, just be firm with them about what you want or don't want. They're looking for repeat business so it does them no good to rip you off and they know that. You will also be asked to go look at the girls in the boarding houses that are apparently nearby but I never bothered with that. It's probably safe but I just don't like being led to places I'm not familiar with by someone I don't know.

There are several worn out malls within a few blocks of that spot as well where you will definitely get the eye from any number of shop girls and others just roaming around. On my trip there a few months ago, I was handed a half dozen phone numbers from a group of uniformed schoolgirls who approached me inside Gaisano Metro Mall. I didn't ask, they just offered.

There are also a few local discos on Sanciangko Street, a block north of Colon Street, where you can find teenage girls from age 14 and up (one of them told me she was 13) who are willing to go home with you. Obviously, use discretion and seek out those who are older. The discos are very local and a bit unnerving for the Cebu novice because of the gangs of touts who will approach you and want to bring you inside. For a commission from the club owners, apparently. Just be friendly and smile a lot and you'll be fine.

I tried the basketball courts twice at different times of the day and didn't like the pressure and the crowding so I left both times without partaking. I think no need to go there again.

Do us a favor and file a report when you're done eh? [/QUOTE]Sorry, too much hype, exaggeration, and misleading info in your post.

Guys, don't take it too seriously, eg "The corners of Colon and Pelaez Street is especially full of them, seemingly any hour of the night or day"."and also schoolgirls who are only there part time". Both pieces of information crap.

Female Pimps : "They're looking for repeat business so it does them no good to rip you off and they know that" Truth is they are much happier to rip you off, no thought of tomorrow, or repeat business. Most of the time they only get one chance at a Joe, and they know it, and they go for it"

There are no "girls in a nearby boarding house". But there is Jonquerra, if you call that a boarding house.

"On my trip there a few months ago, I was handed a half dozen phone numbers from a group of uniformed schoolgirls who approached me inside Gaisano Metro Mall. I didn't ask, they just offered". What a lot of crap.

I suggest poster waits until he has some real information before posting anything.

Ditto. I had some great times at the Silver Dollar in the back room and with take-out.

Maya from there was a superb porn star!

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1142084]I am shocked and dismayed about this Stroker.

No visit to Cebu was ever complete without dropping into Silver Dollar. Some of my visits lasted 5 minutes and others lasted 5 hours plus plus.

I hope it can be revived. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1142075]As some of you may or may not know Silver Dollar has been closed since April 1st and that is no April fools joke. Plenty of rumors on what happened and what is to come floating around but since I have not heard anything factual I will decline to post about it.[/QUOTE]Their website says it's up for sale!

[QUOTE=Nolz7;1142269]Their website says it's up for sale![/QUOTE]I was in cebu in sept of 2010 and several of these bars were as empty as could be. I was in hot rods and I was the only customer in there for about 2 hours. I think many of these bars are struggling with the economic set back in most countries.

Another problem I see, Is there are just way to many of these kind of bars in cebu city. There has to be close to 30 or 40 of them. Not including the ones the locals use. Then when your business plan for most of them is to rip off their customers for as many dollars as they can. I suprised more have not shut their doors. But I liked the sliver dollar more than most, something charming about skanky woman. And a few cute ones.

[QUOTE=Sxxxx; 1142091]Sorry, too much hype, exaggeration, and misleading info in your post.

I suggest poster waits until he has some real information before posting anything. [/QUOTE]Yes I tend to agree with you because GG has only visited Cebu once! (that we know of)

[QUOTE=Cuchulain]Lastly coming from the airport to cebu city I saw about 40 girls working a street corner, about half way from the airport, did not ask the cab driver details but it was pretty obvious what was going on. Does anyone have details on this area or. Feel free to pm me, thanks so much in advance.[/QUOTE]Can you be more specific? Was it in Lapu2x or near the pier area?

[quote=nolz7;1142269]their website says it's up for sale![/quote]my peeps tell me it was sold last week.

seems like the former owner had too many setbacks including the fire.

[QUOTE=D Cups; 1142204]Ditto. I had some great times at the Silver Dollar in the back room and with take-out.

Maya from there was a superb porn star! [/QUOTE]In my old days of visiting Cebu, I like many would include it in my nightly meanderings. Being an enthusiastic lad I was there once at 5pm or maybe 6pm during a weekday. Place had just openedI think, had my one beer, hadn't seen any talent and offered my P500 for a P50 beer.

Cashier did the well known cry " don't you have any smaller money ". And it took 20 minutes for the various bar staff to come up with some change. But yes, remember the place well for better more fun reasons

[QUOTE=Mattrick; 1142360]Yes I tend to agree with you because GG has only visited Cebu once! (that we know of)

Can you be more specific? Was it in Lapu2x or near the pier area? [/QUOTE]Are there really that many street workers in lapu lapu, I saw tons. Lots looked a little to young was totally suprised to see that many girls on street corners, have not seen that before. They were literally in the street waving down cars. 40 might be a high number but at least 20 most likely more. Does anyone know the lapu lapu scene?

[QUOTE=Cuchulain;1142433]Are there really that many street workers in lapu lapu, I saw tons. Lots looked a little to young was totally suprised to see that many girls on street corners, have not seen that before. They were literally in the street waving down cars. 40 might be a high number but at least 20 most likely more. Does anyone know the lapu lapu scene?[/QUOTE]I have never seen it on my frequent trips to Cebu but I guess I odn't pass by Lapu Lapu at night either.

If it is true that there are 20 girls on a street corner waving at cars my bet is it won't last long.

Cebu is a bit too conservative for that sort of thing and although there is a very vibrant night life most cebuanos would prefer it to be kept away from this "in-your-face" scene on the main highway to Mactan.

I have had an early flight out of Mactan and was amazed at all the attractive Filipinas enroute to their jobs around Lapu Lapu. I thojght about going to the jeepney stop and passing out my phone number. Surely more cost effective than spending time at DIA and the other online friend sites.

I've also been at Lapu L at night and never seen an obvious streetwalker scene. I've also been down the strip of bars (mostly for Filipino guys) in Lapu L and not found street workers there either. There are (sometimes) a few near the Chinese restuarant / abandoned building in the pier area of Cebu city just after you cross the bridge. And before you get to SM.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1142438]I have never seen it on my frequent trips to Cebu but I guess I odn't pass by Lapu Lapu at night either.

If it is true that there are 20 girls on a street corner waving at cars my bet is it won't last long.

Cebu is a bit too conservative for that sort of thing and although there is a very vibrant night life most cebuanos would prefer it to be kept away from this "in-your-face" scene on the main highway to Mactan. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sxxxx; 1142091]Sorry, too much hype, exaggeration, and misleading info in your post.

Guys, don't take it too seriously, eg "The corners of Colon and Pelaez Street is especially full of them, seemingly any hour of the night or day"."and also schoolgirls who are only there part time". Both pieces of information crap.

Female Pimps : "They're looking for repeat business so it does them no good to rip you off and they know that" Truth is they are much happier to rip you off, no thought of tomorrow, or repeat business. Most of the time they only get one chance at a Joe, and they know it, and they go for it"

There are no "girls in a nearby boarding house". But there is Jonquerra, if you call that a boarding house.

"On my trip there a few months ago, I was handed a half dozen phone numbers from a group of uniformed schoolgirls who approached me inside Gaisano Metro Mall. I didn't ask, they just offered". What a lot of crap.

I suggest poster waits until he has some real information before posting anything. [/QUOTE]I suggest 'poster' go see for yourself. I'm not exaggerating one bit, what reason would I have to do that? Just because you haven't had the same experience doesn't mean I have not. Feel free to read ANY of my previous posts and ascertain whether I'm the type to make things up or not. Either way, I don't care, I know what I saw.

[QUOTE=Mattrick; 1142360]Yes I tend to agree with you because GG has only visited Cebu once! (that we know of)

Can you be more specific? Was it in Lapu2x or near the pier area? [/QUOTE]Mattrick, how would you know how many times I've visited Cebu City? What I wrote is the absolute truth as of approximately one month ago when I spent 5 out of 8 nights walking the area at different times of the day and night. I think you should know I'm not the type to make things up. But whatever, believe you want, I don't give a fuck.

[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1142542]Mattrick, how would you know how many times I've visited Cebu City? What I wrote is the absolute truth as of approximately one month ago when I spent 5 out of 8 nights walking the area at different times of the day and night. I think you should know I'm not the type to make things up. But whatever, believe you want, I don't give a fuck.[/QUOTE]Guys there are dozens of cheap boarding houses in and around Jonquera and Colon Street. Many girls in the boarding houses are part time or professional hookers, usually catering for the local market. I have been approached by pimps myself and led to boarding houses on three or four occasions. I like to go out of curiousity more than anything and the times that I went were afternoons. I never took a girl as I was always disappointed and also the fact that many of them had to be woken up even though it was afternoon and looked a bit dishevelled.

I have seen lots of street walkers around Colon Street late at night, including blocks north and south of the street itself, they are abundant particularly after 10pm.

As for the posts enquiring about street walkers in Lapu Lapu I actually posted on this subject when I was staying in Lapu Lapu in 2009 and I have cut and pasted the relevant part of my post here.

"Nothing much to report on further dear mongers, however I have done some local research to find out a bit more about the local red light district on Mactan. The place that I mentioned in my earlier post, the Lapu Lapu equivalent of Jonquera is a place called Tapsilog. The area shares the same name as a local culinary dish and is where the casa and bar girls go at night if they have not managed to hook a customer. The place also has street walkers and local freelancers. Sadly this is my last night here and I fly out in the early hours otherwise I would have been delighted to post a field report. Certainly worth a visit if you find yourself here on Mactan with an evening spare, even for the curiosity value alone. Would be great if one of you guys get the chance to visit this place and post a field report."

[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1142538]I suggest 'poster' go see for yourself. I'm not exaggerating one bit, what reason would I have to do that? Just because you haven't had the same experience doesn't mean I have not. Feel free to read ANY of my previous posts and ascertain whether I'm the type to make things up or not. Either way, I don't care, I know what I saw.[/QUOTE]Good luck to you Tom Cruise, and your Gaisano Metro experience.

Temper your posts to more realistic levels and they might start to look believable.

Don't make it look so easy, so great, that guys go teeming there expecting Nirvana.

Of course there are girls there, but not the way you colourfully describe it. Yeh, and students of sex might be there too, but not students per se. If they are studying then, maybe 25% at best of their time, other 75% selling themselves. I don't call that students as we know them.

Of course there are girls living in little dumpy rooms in that area and many other areas, but I would not call them boarding houses, which to me means lots of girls in one area. They are not boarding houses, they are part of a regular house, and usually only for girls, cause guys cause too much trouble. Don't think your going to step into a compound and find girls leaning out the window calling out to you. Are you going to call at someones house and ask the girls boarding there to come outside so you can inspect them? Its not that scene at all.

And by the way latest rumour is Jonquerra is being destroyed. Houses in that area already demolished and all are to go, be torn down, within 6 to 12 months. Girls numbers there very much down as a result of the new Barangay Captain who does not like prostitution. Jonquerra as we know it, is to be destroyed, according to the info fed to me by Filipinos. Apparently the majority of girls that were there have dispersed to other areas or provinces. Easily proved one way or another by someone going to Jakosalem entrance. So far I classify the information as rumour only, but its coming from a resident of Jonquerra and another who depends on Jonquerra for a livelihood, so good chance it is true.

People who colour up the downtown scene are misleading people. Regular Filipino people do not step into that area late at night. It's the place where folks get murdered too often.

I know you, the person who will respond to that statement, you have been walking around there forever and nothing has ever happened to you, but it does happen. Why rummage around the bottom of a trash can when you can better, safer, elsewhere? It's all on this Forum, do something for yourself and find it.

And I reserve the right to jump on anyone who I consider is talking hype. I have got my say and you have got yours. People who actually follow up your advice are free to write in and tells us what they actually experience.

From your Gaisano Metro experience, all I can say is you must be Tom Cruise. Why travel to Philippines you should be able to get plenty back home and free, LOL.

[quote=gaijin gigolo;1142538]i suggest 'poster' go see for yourself. i'm not exaggerating one bit, what reason would i have to do that? just because you haven't had the same experience doesn't mean i have not. feel free to read any of my previous posts and ascertain whether i'm the type to make things up or not. either way, i don't care, i know what i saw.[/quote]with a little bit more time to think about it, your report about many girls on the corners downtown and pimps taking you to 'boarding houses' might have a touch of truth in it because of the tearing down of jonquerra and the dispersal of girls there, if info i have from filipinos is correct about tearing down of jonquerra.

so a new scene might be developing where the girls are rep001tered all over downtown and pimps are standing nearby to get their exhorbitant cut. and pimps might walk you to where a pay4play girl is sleeping, yes it is possible. but do you want to walk around a seedy area with a person who lives off prostitution, and who you have never met before? what if the pimp decides its easier to lead you to his or hers buddies in a darkened area and rob you?

but i repeat to all newbies reading the glowing reports from tom cruise and others, downtown is not a safe area late at night. no sensible filipino will be seen there late at night, and yes you the one who is about to retort, you have had no trouble there for a very long time. doesn't mean the place is safe, and newbies reading this stuff from afar including iceland, wherever, should be told so.

facts not fantasy is what we are looking for on isg.

it was your gaisano metro experience that killed the rest of your report.

let's see how many more get the tom cruise experience at gaisano metro, lol.

In anticipation of more enemy fire I say.

Tom, enough.

I am quite sure after my scolding of you, your future reports will be somewhere near the truth of the matter and therefore I will have helped the inexperienced avoid being misled and catching a plane from Iceland wherever to Colon Street and those places you so colourfully described.

Regardless of what is posted after this one of mine, I'll go back to lurking, until the next hype report.

Mr Moderator, and Tom, rest easy, last from me, on this subject.

[QUOTE=Sxxxx; 1142673]
But I repeat to all newbies reading the glowing reports from Tom Cruise and others, downtown is not a safe area late at night. No sensible Filipino will be seen there late at night, and yes you the one who is about to retort, you have had no trouble there for a very long time. Doesn't mean the place is safe, and newbies reading this stuff from afar including Iceland, wherever, should be told so. [/QUOTE]I seem to remember in one of your reports from 2 years ago and I quote" I never questioned safety at Jonquerra" unquote, but now you are suggesting the area is some kind of danger zone to be avoided at all costs? Jonquera, Colon Street and the areas adjoining Colon Street are colourful and seedy, certainly not places for the faint hearted, but I must be one of the other lucky ones you mentioned, as I have never had any problems there, even late at night. I have also visited the area late at night with other board members.

Everyone has their own personal experiences of a place or area and it might not always equate with your or other people's experiences but there is no need to get yourself in such a frenzy over GG's post. Instead of flaming and caustic sarcasm it would be better and more informative for everyone if you recounted your own factual account of your last visit to the area, assuming of course you have been there in recent years?

Warning others about dangers is important and the area does require you to remain alert and vigilant but there is no need for you to exaggerate the danger either. Oh and by the way some of us enjoy rummaging around the bottom of the trash can as you so aptly described it

[QUOTE=Mortman; 1142778]I seem to remember in one of your reports from 2 years ago and I quote" I never questioned safety at Jonquerra" unquote, but now you are suggesting the area is some kind of danger zone to be avoided at all costs? Jonquera, Colon Street and the areas adjoining Colon Street are colourful and seedy, certainly not places for the faint hearted, but I must be one of the other lucky ones you mentioned, as I have never had any problems there, even late at night. I have also visited the area late at night with other board members.

Everyone has their own personal experiences of a place or area and it might not always equate with your or other people's experiences but there is no need to get yourself in such a frenzy over GG's post. Instead of flaming and caustic sarcasm it would be better and more informative for everyone if you recounted your own factual account of your last visit to the area, assuming of course you have been there in recent years?

Warning others about dangers is important and the area does require you to remain alert and vigilant but there is no need for you to exaggerate the danger either. Oh and by the way some of us enjoy rummaging around the bottom of the trash can as you so aptly described it[/QUOTE]OK, I was finished with Tom, but I will give you one post, mainly cause your trying to twist something I said two years ago to cover the whole of downtown area.

Here is my one and only post to you, I am not going to go on and on about this. You are free to do so, however. Here is my one and only post to you.

"Arriving at the Jakosalem entrance of Jonquerra, stepping out of the taxi, selecting your girl, hopping back in a taxi where you got out, is safe. I do not promote walking around downtown area late at night because it is not safe. Your trying to twist my Jonquerra comment to cover the whole downtown area per se. Jonquerra is an enclave, not a batch of streets, for those who have never been there.

I personally know one foreigner who died 2 or 3 years after being brutally attacked late at night in the downtown area. In his case it was the very public Colon Street where he came unstuck. But its not very public late at night as its only inhabited by the rats, pimps, desperate girls, and the likes of Mortman, it seems. Foreigner friend spent those last years of his life wasting away in a wheelchair. For his habit of walking around downtown late at night, and early in the mornings, he paid a heavy price, his life. He was a resident, so he walked around more than fly in fly out mongers would, and therefore had a greater chance of becoming unstuck. But it can happen, and everyone should know it.

Keep walking around there if you like Mortman, I just do not think people should be given the impression that it is a safe area to walk around.

Out of curiosity. 10 days ago, I stopped the taxi at the Jakosalem entrance to Jonquerra to see if what my Filipino friends were telling me was true. Years ago I partook of the unfortunate girls of Jonquerra.

Instead of 20 or more girls and six or more pimps surrounding the taxi, only 2 or 3 girls and 2 pimps were there. The alleyway leading into Jonquerra proper itself was deserted of mama-sans and others. One such sighting doesn't prove my Filipino friends story, but looks a bit that way. More should visit and report their findings. I am no longer in Cebu. I didn't see any sign of houses being torn down, but never entered Jonquerra proper anyway. Residents of this area have never paid rent, they are squatters pure and simple, and apparently have no rights to avoid eviction. But I think they will put up a hardy resistance just the same. Doubt if they will all be evicted within a 6 to 12 months time frame, hence some girls will be there, but most apparently have moved out. Don't know for certain until others who know the place at its peak, say up to 12 months ago, visit again and report their findings.

Perhaps the Jonquerra girls have dispersed to Lapu Lapu. Anyway, not my concern cause I don't rummage around trash cans anymore. No need for that, when there are so many quality girls on offer elsewhere. For me it's an object of curiosity only, these days.

Rummage where you like, and report what you like, but don't twist stuff I have said before, and two years ago at that, LOL. If I wanted to, I could look up your first post on Jonquerra 2 or 3 years ago where you gave a false and misleading impression on Jonquerra, and it was your first visit there, but like Tom you put it across like you knew it all. But why bother, thats water under the bridge. I have got other things to do, other than talk to you and Tom.

[QUOTE=Mortman; 1142778]I seem to remember in one of your reports from 2 years ago and I quote" I never questioned safety at Jonquerra" unquote, but now you are suggesting the area is some kind of danger zone to be avoided at all costs? Jonquera, Colon Street and the areas adjoining Colon Street are colourful and seedy, certainly not places for the faint hearted, but I must be one of the other lucky ones you mentioned, as I have never had any problems there, even late at night. I have also visited the area late at night with other board members.

Everyone has their own personal experiences of a place or area and it might not always equate with your or other people's experiences but there is no need to get yourself in such a frenzy over GG's post. Instead of flaming and caustic sarcasm it would be better and more informative for everyone if you recounted your own factual account of your last visit to the area, assuming of course you have been there in recent years?

Warning others about dangers is important and the area does require you to remain alert and vigilant but there is no need for you to exaggerate the danger either. Oh and by the way some of us enjoy rummaging around the bottom of the trash can as you so aptly described it[/QUOTE]Absolutely right, Mort, thanks for that. He may not have seen what we know is there but that doesn't mean it's not there does it. Ffs.

Sxxx
I figured it would be only a matter of time before you crawled out from the woodwork again spitting venom in your usual style. Look back through your posts on Jonquera, you contradict yourself one minute saying it is safe and the next minute you are saying how dangerous it is. Its a shame you don't remain lurking on the board (your words not mine) and stay away from posting, your childish sarcasm is not helpful and nor is it welcome.

Since you mentioned it and not me, my Jonquera reports have all been based on actual visits and personal observations. The old post of mine on Jonquera that you mention got you pissed because I stated something that you thought you knew better and you resented being told anything. After all you are an expert are you not? It was not because my post was in any way misleading or untrue, yet another one of your many contradictions.

I have never said downtown is safe and I don't think anyone else has either, perhaps you have been reading the wrong posts Sxxx? Downtown is certainly poor and neglected and you need to keep your wits about you at all times, just like you need to do in any similar area of any other foreign city at night. However your armchair criticism and suggestions that you are likely to be murdered by going there is going just a bit too far. Yes if you walk round drunk, flash your cash, or show disrespect you are likely to end up in serious trouble. Stick to the main thoroughfares, behave confidently and be observant and you can try a taste of the raw and seedy part of Cebu without (as Sxxx suggests) ending up in a morgue.

It is immaterial to me whether people go or stay away from the downtown area and I know it is not everyone's cup of tea. I enjoy myself downtown at night, I try to exercise common sense and I do not see why anyone else should not. Excessive scare mongering is a bit silly in my book and if you do not agree with GG's or others posts, you don't need to be rude or insulting to articulate your point

Hello, guys,

Thanks for all you who shared me some info, If you have any more to add, you can either send me a message or just post.

Stxxx send me lots of messages with some good info, Its much appriciated, The forum wars get old fast guys, I just type off the top of my head without thought most times. I am sure you can tell)

If any of you have contacts you are willing to share, send me a message, this is my second time in cebu city and I do not really like mango clubs much, so I am looking to explore other options.

So if you have some contact info for a semi pro, pro, dai girl that is willing I would appriciate it. I am not a big spender, but a spender for sure. Haha.

I am a very light drinker, non smoker american from the western USA, I love cebu except the stink on streets, I can handle that though, smells like tijuana to me.)

Thanks again guys, lets all have fun, I will post reports from my non mango journey, won't be to many though. I am going to spend most of my time with my cutie.

Are you willing to share the contact of your cutie? Then I'm willing to share my contacts to you too.

Seriously. I do not understand. There are so many to be found on different Chat and dating sites and if you still fail to find less than a dozen contacts after that, then just land in the Philippines and look left and right. They're all over.

No offense intended.

[QUOTE=Cuchulain; 1143052]Hello, guys,

Thanks for all you who shared me some info, If you have any more to add, you can either send me a message or just post.

Stxxx send me lots of messages with some good info, Its much appriciated, The forum wars get old fast guys, I just type off the top of my head without thought most times. I am sure you can tell)

If any of you have contacts you are willing to share, send me a message, this is my second time in cebu city and I do not really like mango clubs much, so I am looking to explore other options.

So if you have some contact info for a semi pro, pro, dai girl that is willing I would appriciate it. I am not a big spender, but a spender for sure. Haha.

I am a very light drinker, non smoker american from the western USA, I love cebu except the stink on streets, I can handle that though, smells like tijuana to me.)

Thanks again guys, lets all have fun, I will post reports from my non mango journey, won't be to many though. I am going to spend most of my time with my cutie. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Denkicash; 1116034]Cheers guys for the further tips

Have been hitting DIA pretty hard, but am getting the impression that just going for a walk around some malls would be at least as effective.

Feels a bit as if DIA could lead to a situation where I end up spending an inordinate amount of time once I get to Cebu doing SMS / texting (which I hate). [/QUOTE]Texting is a way off life for young Phil girls you will just have to get used to it if you want to play.

DIA is hit and miss and my view is that if you just read the war stories relayed on DIA you will mostly hear the hits as thats the way guys work. In Ayala and SM there are a bunch of pro girls who see it as their place of business and will make flirtatious eye contact and go back to your hotel very easily. There are also many normal girls or shop girls who are not quite such easy pickings and will need a degree of confidence, and charm or technique of some sort to seduce

[QUOTE=Asianatic; 1143269]Are you willing to share the contact of your cutie? Then I'm willing to share my contacts to you too.

Seriously. I do not understand. There are so many to be found on different Chat and dating sites and if you still fail to find less than a dozen contacts after that, then just land in the Philippines and look left and right. They're all over.

No offense intended. [/QUOTE]Well some people seem to be open to sharing contacts, to help girls they know find customers. Its ok if you don't have any to share, not sure a post is needed for that. Or this one needed to tell you this.

It is amazing how many non informational back and forth post fill up space here. Like this one.

So I will add this, if anyone has more info on the lapu lapu p4p sceene I would much appriciate it, obviously we have seen a little but hoping for others to share. Thanks

[QUOTE=Cuchulain; 1143428]Well some people seem to be open to sharing contacts, to help girls they know find customers. Its ok if you don't have any to share, not sure a post is needed for that. Or this one needed to tell you this.

It is amazing how many non informational back and forth post fill up space here. Like this one.

So I will add this, if anyone has more info on the lapu lapu p4p sceene I would much appriciate it, obviously we have seen a little but hoping for others to share. Thanks[/QUOTE]Speaking as someone who has shared quite a few contacts in the past, I'd make a few comments.

1 I think a few decent high quality leads are VERY useful to guys who are new to the Phils or don't have limitless time to surf the dating sites or have a knack with chatting up girls. Of course there are thousands of girls available in the Phils and dating sites etc and its very easy to get 10-20 cell nos, however unless I am missing a trick girls who I would call high quality. Ie young, cute, no stretch marks, intelligent enough to be a charming dinner companion, reliable, good in bed, open to sex, not insanely jealous, not going to bombard you with annoying texts, not looking for mega bucks are very much the exception and not the rule. There a re guys on this site who give the impression that they are able to meet an endless supply of such women with minimal effort and zero cost. All I can say is hats off to you, you are much more skilful at it than me.

2 My experience of providing contact details has been very mixed. On the positive side 2 girls have got married and 2 are now engaged to be married through the help I've given them finding guys. Others have had trips to various places or financial assistance which has come in very useful. 95% of the guys have been appreciate of my help. The problem comes with the 5% when things go wrong. Some guys are not above posting BS stories in this forum to trash a girl's reputation if they break up with her or are otherwise overcome with jealous frustration / anger. The other issue is that many guys think that helping other guys out is such an odd thing to do that they can't believe you are not getting some sort of financial or other benefit, so you get disparaging innuendo about being some sort of pimp. A further problem is that many guys who come to the Phils prefer to have unprotected sex and inevitably this results in unwanted pregnancies and STDs because in most cases the girls are too weak to insist on safe sex. Being a nice guy, I always seem to be the one they turn to for advice or help dealing with these issues with the guy responsible for her condition disappeared from the scene.

The net result is that speaking personally I have become much more cautious about giving out contact details than I was earlier.

[QUOTE=GregLondon; 1143457]. . . . . . . < SNIP . . . .

The net result is that speaking personally I have become much more cautious about giving out contact details than I was earlier. [/QUOTE]I never share any contact details with any guys that I have not personally met. Simple rule.

When I hear some of the stories girls tell me about how some guys treat them then I certainly don't want to send any of my lady friends off to bad experiences.

We all agree here in various posts that we all have very different tastes so even if a friend recommends a name and number to me I still always make a point of checking her out either on cam or in a coffee shop before I move to the next step.

I just think it is poor form for first-time visitors to the Phils to EXPECT guys to share names with you, but if you find someone who is happy to do so then by all means go ahead.

GL.

I think your comments are very accurate about the DIA scene and I must admit I thought the old posts alleging you were some kind of pimp were rather stupid. But the point you make about the effort required to get just a handful of reliable and quality girls is true, I often spend many hours on line cultivating DIA contacts before meeting them in person.

The groundwork is very time consuming and tedious but it does pay off in the end. That is one of the main reasons I do not share contacts and the other being that some guys may not like the same qualities and physical traits that I find attractive.

Cuchulain.

I don't know if you read my post on Lapu Lapu but a visit and a field report would make interesting reading if you want to explore the Lapu Lapu scene. The area I mentioned is as far as I can tell is not frequented much by foreigners, I may try and visit there when I am back in July. I have also visited Casas in Lapu Lapu, they do exist but you will need to use a taxi driver which carries with it the inherent risk of being ripped off. The last time I used a casa in Lapu Lapu, the taxi driver got out and started talking to the manager in Cebuano. I had the feeling the taxi driver negotiated himself a commission, but it still only cost me 1500 as I remember. As for DIA girls, you didn't say when your visit to Cebu starts but surely you have made some effort before hand to contact girls? I find the pros and semi pros on DIA are easier to meet, they are less likely to let you down than regular girls and they are usually easy to spot on DIA in their bikini or underwear shots or their provocative and sexual poses

As many long-time readers of this forum will know, I'm in a long-term relationship that I value highly, so my days of catting around clubs and pick-up area in Davao are long gone. However I used to get bombarded with PMs asking if, through my lady, I could fix them up with exactly the type of presentable, intelligent women whom it's not so easy to meet if you don't live here, or at least have contacts here. At the beginning, I was only too happy to help, as we know some really attractive, well educated younger women who have a strong desire to meet foreign guys. Unfortunately, most of these meetings did not end well, and the guys had some difficulties distinguishing between these women and rent-a-girls. Either that, or that had forgotten, in some cases, how to behave with "normal" women, and were so awkward and socially inept that it was embarrassing. I've since given up, and I just don't do it anymore for people I don't know pretty well.

I think RK and I share a common perspective on these requests. We live here, and we can't afford to have our reputations besmirched by guys who are crass, impolite and who seem to honestly believe that as soon as they stepped of the plane they became irresistible to women 20 years younger than they. This is not to denigrate the hundreds of sincere, decent guys out there, but I'm no longer willing to take the chance, sight unseen. There's a saying in French that goes: "Un homme averti en vaux deux," which I guess roughly translated means once bitten, twice shy. I've been bitten more than once.

GE

GE, RK, GL: I totally respect that. I will be moving to the PI in a few years and will only set up dates with people I know and trust. I've been fairly lucky finding my own dates including some exquisite non-pros. Still, if any of you want to get together for a beer or two I'd be happy to buy.

Here's my schedule:

May 1. 3 Makati.

(then off to Hanoi and Saigon for work)

May 15. 17 Malate.

May 18. 19 Dumaguete.

May 20. 22 Cebu City.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1143480]As many long-time readers of this forum will know, I'm in a long-term relationship that I value highly, so my days of catting around clubs and pick-up area in Davao are long gone. However I used to get bombarded with PMs asking if, through my lady, I could fix them up with exactly the type of presentable, intelligent women whom it's not so easy to meet if you don't live here, or at least have contacts here. At the beginning, I was only too happy to help, as we know some really attractive, well educated younger women who have a strong desire to meet foreign guys. Unfortunately, most of these meetings did not end well, and the guys had some difficulties distinguishing between these women and rent-a-girls. Either that, or that had forgotten, in some cases, how to behave with "normal" women, and were so awkward and socially inept that it was embarrassing. I've since given up, and I just don't do it anymore for people I don't know pretty well.

I think RK and I share a common perspective on these requests. We live here, and we can't afford to have our reputations besmirched by guys who are crass, impolite and who seem to honestly believe that as soon as they stepped of the plane they became irresistible to women 20 years younger than they. This is not to denigrate the hundreds of sincere, decent guys out there, but I'm no longer willing to take the chance, sight unseen. There's a saying in French that goes: "Un homme averti en vaux deux," which I guess roughly translated means once bitten, twice shy. I've been bitten more than once.

GE[/QUOTE]

[quote=mattrick; 1142363]my peeps tell me it was sold last week.

seems like the former owner had too many setbacks including the fire. [/quote]mattrick,

yes the bar has been sold, but i have heard two different versions of who will own the bar, the combinations are well known to frequent visitors of cebu. i know all parties involved but not sure until the dust settles who's name will be on the deed.

i was even offered outright ownership in the last few weeks on march but i declined and replied with the old saying,"the only way to make a small fortune in the philippines, is to start with a large one".

i noticed a fresh delivery of sml a few days ago and some staff cleaning with the door open, which will hopefully reduce the resident cockroach population to a more acceptable level.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1143544]. . . . . .

I noticed a fresh delivery of SML a few days ago and some staff cleaning with the door open, which will hopefully reduce the resident cockroach population to a more acceptable level. [/QUOTE]Hahaha I notice you said "more acceptable level".

I never minded them on the floor except for the little baby buggers who used to run along the edge of the bar between me and my drink. The girls used to try to swat them away before I saw them hehe.

There must be generations of roaches living there who will only be removed by one of those industrial strength insecticide bombs.

I hope SD re-opens, roaches or no roaches.

[QUOTE=Mortman; 1142930]Sxxx.

I figured it would be only a matter of time before you crawled out from the woodwork again spitting venom in your usual style. Look back through your posts on Jonquera, you contradict yourself one minute saying it is safe and the next minute you are saying how dangerous it is. Its a shame you don't remain lurking on the board (your words not mine) and stay away from posting, your childish sarcasm is not helpful and nor is it welcome.

Since you mentioned it and not me, my Jonquera reports have all been based on actual visits and personal observations. The old post of mine on Jonquera that you mention got you pissed because I stated something that you thought you knew better and you resented being told anything. After all you are an expert are you not? It was not because my post was in any way misleading or untrue, yet another one of your many contradictions.

I have never said downtown is safe and I don't think anyone else has either, perhaps you have been reading the wrong posts Sxxx? Downtown is certainly poor and neglected and you need to keep your wits about you at all times, just like you need to do in any similar area of any other foreign city at night. However your armchair criticism and suggestions that you are likely to be murdered by going there is going just a bit too far. Yes if you walk round drunk, flash your cash, or show disrespect you are likely to end up in serious trouble. Stick to the main thoroughfares, behave confidently and be observant and you can try a taste of the raw and seedy part of Cebu without (as Sxxx suggests) ending up in a morgue.

It is immaterial to me whether people go or stay away from the downtown area and I know it is not everyone's cup of tea. I enjoy myself downtown at night, I try to exercise common sense and I do not see why anyone else should not. Excessive scare mongering is a bit silly in my book and if you do not agree with GG's or others posts, you don't need to be rude or insulting to articulate your point[/QUOTE]Again, well stated Mortman.

[QUOTE=Mortman; 1143475]GL.

Cuchulain.

I don't know if you read my post on Lapu Lapu but a visit and a field report would make interesting reading if you want to explore the Lapu Lapu scene. The area I mentioned is as far as I can tell is not frequented much by foreigners, I may try and visit there when I am back in July. I have also visited Casas in Lapu Lapu, they do exist but you will need to use a taxi driver which carries with it the inherent risk of being ripped off. The last time I used a casa in Lapu Lapu, the taxi driver got out and started talking to the manager in Cebuano. I had the feeling the taxi driver negotiated himself a commission, but it still only cost me 1500 as I remember. As for DIA girls, you didn't say when your visit to Cebu starts but surely you have made some effort before hand to contact girls? I find the pros and semi pros on DIA are easier to meet, they are less likely to let you down than regular girls and they are usually easy to spot on DIA in their bikini or underwear shots or their provocative and sexual poses[/QUOTE]I will give an updated report on lapu lapu, I know they have a mall called the grandmall, I might be the only white guy in that place, but I think I might give it a shot. I seen you posted about a street scene in lapu lapu, maybe If I can find a taxi driver who I trust, I might venture in there. We will see how it goes.

Thanks for the info on the dai about the pros and semi pros, That helps when looking for an almost sure thing well as close as you can get on dai.

By the way, I have been to cebu before, and I not interested in contacts for anyones gf. But if you know a good semipro send me a message.

Thanks, All

[QUOTE=GregLondon; 1143457]My experience of providing contact details has been very mixed. On the positive side 2 girls have got married and 2 are now engaged to be married through the help I've given them finding guys. Others have had trips to various places or financial assistance which has come in very useful. 95% of the guys have been appreciate of my help. The problem comes with the 5% when things go wrong. Some guys are not above posting BS stories in this forum to trash a girl's reputation if they break up with her or are otherwise overcome with jealous frustration / anger. The other issue is that many guys think that helping other guys out is such an odd thing to do that they can't believe you are not getting some sort of financial or other benefit, so you get disparaging innuendo about being some sort of pimp. A further problem is that many guys who come to the Phils prefer to have unprotected sex and inevitably this results in unwanted pregnancies and STDs because in most cases the girls are too weak to insist on safe sex. Being a nice guy, I always seem to be the one they turn to for advice or help dealing with these issues with the guy responsible for her condition disappeared from the scene.

The net result is that speaking personally I have become much more cautious about giving out contact details than I was earlier. [/QUOTE]I tend to agree. When I first started off here, I was green and thought everyone only told true stories. That illusion ended quickly. Today, I've become more cautious myself but have the pleasure of meeting a few members here and some I've met were not members at the time but have since convinced them to join up and share their experiences since. (such as Sharka who many have said is very reliable and super helpful). For the most part, the shared times were very enjoyable with most that I've met so far, although I do remember meeting 1-2 asses along the way.

But even if I never met up with some members, just reading some of the post and experiences and helpful advices also tells me alot about that person and for those selected helpful and friendly members I've always offer to help when they PM me. Its just the way things work in the ISG world.

[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2;1144122]. Its just the way things work in the ISG world.[/QUOTE]Hey PT,

Just wanted to say thanks for all the nice tips you gave me last time I had the pleasure of meeting you when I was in Manila, not to mention the 2 or 3 beers. You are one stand up guy. Hope to return the favor someday but for now your knowledge and experiences far exceeds mine.

I agree with your thoughts also. Bottom line is if you are nice and help others then others will always return the favor. PM me when you are going back to PI as I would like to meet up with you again and return the 3 beers I still owe you.

Cheers and beers buddy,

FZ

[QUOTE=Cuchulain; 1143649]I will give an updated report on lapu lapu, I know they have a mall called the grandmall, I might be the only white guy in that place, but I think I might give it a shot. I seen you posted about a street scene in lapu lapu, maybe If I can find a taxi driver who I trust, I might venture in there. We will see how it goes.

Thanks for the info on the dai about the pros and semi pros, That helps when looking for an almost sure thing well as close as you can get on dai.

By the way, I have been to Cebu before, and I not interested in contacts for anyones gf. But if you know a good semipro send me a message.

Thanks, All[/QUOTE]They have a Gaisano Mall in Lapu Lapu not sure if this is the one you are talking about. It's like a typical mid range provincial mall. You will find a handful of white faces but not many. Of course there are hundreds of pretty girls there but unlike Ayala and SM they won't be there specifically to hunt for foreigners they will have come to do their shopping. If you have the knack you can for sure strike up conversations and get numbers etc but you would need to be non shy and good at that sort of thing. At SM / Ayala you are going to get tracked down by the pros who will specifically wander around aimlessly and give you the eye as they are hunting for potential customers.

There are plenty of DIA girls who are based in LL who would be good candidates. Often they will put Cebu rather than Lapu Lapu as their location but getting them out downtown is often a problem.

[QUOTE=GregLondon;1143457]A further problem is that many guys who come to the Phils prefer to have unprotected sex and inevitably this results in unwanted pregnancies and STDs because in most cases the girls are too weak to insist on safe sex. Being a nice guy, I always seem to be the one they turn to for advice or help dealing with these issues with the guy responsible for her condition disappeared from the scene.[/QUOTE]How many of your girls got knocked up or infected by diseased mongers who then fled the scence leaving you holding the bag for abortions or STD treatments?

Blaring headline in yesterday's Cebu newspaper, The Freeman, which is generally even handed.

"146 KTV BARGIRLS RESCUED IN RAID"

This was apparently a full-on media event coordinated by a number of agencies, including.

The Regional Intelligence Division 7, the Regional Anti-Trafficking Force, Inter-Agency Council Against Trafficking.

And the Department of Justice. The International Justice Mission and the Department of Social Welfare.

Also took part in the raid.

The raid took place midnight Saturday at the Club Jaguar KTV Bar after reports that some minors were working at the bar.

Hmmmmn, really? Minors working at a bar? Naw, not in Cebu! I was especially impressed that all 146 girls.

Had been "rescued".29 of them could be minors. This estimate came from the checking of teeth! One girl did admit to being a minor. No mention of her feeling relief at being "rescued".

All 146 were carted off to a detention center. Does this herald further "rescue" raids to protect the thousands of victims in all the other bars? Couldn't possibly be another meaningless grand-standing event, could it?

More likely, that somone either pissed the authorities off, or (cynical me) , the elevation of shake-down 'fees'

At other bars could be in the offing.

[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1144146]How many of your girls got knocked up or infected by diseased mongers who then fled the scence leaving you holding the bag for abortions or STD treatments?[/QUOTE]Over the last 15 months I've gotten involved in 4 cases of STDs and 7 pregnancies. 2 girls ended up giving birth, one a normal birth another an emergency caesarian of a premature baby following attempted late abortions. 4 abortions and 1 18 year old who is currently pregnant and already tried unsuccessfully at abort twice.

I am not suggesting "mongers" are responsible for all of this, in most cases which guy is responsible is a matter of speculation and debate and I suspect Phil BFs are the bigger threat but in some cases mongers are clearly implicated. In some cases they act responsibly and help financially in others the girl either has no contact info or the guy refuses to help, in others another western guy steps up to help and I have just given moral support / advice / found out where to get treatment etc, in others the girl is able to earn or borrow enough to pay fro treatment. The whole abortion scene here is an absolute nightmare. Girls are given zero sex education. A large majority of Phil guys and a high proportion of foreigners refuse to wear condoms. Girls are generally too shy / poor / embarrassed to seek STD treatment unless the symptoms become really obvious. Getting advice on abortions here is a nightmare as is picking up abortion drugs or finding out about underground clinics and advice on the right dosage etc, the girls are often getting conflicting advice re whether to keep or abort the baby. The whole thing is a major headache and one of the root causes of many of the problems faced in the Phils.

[QUOTE=GregLondon;1144162]Over the last 15 months I've gotten involved in 4 cases of STDs and 7 pregnancies. 2 girls ended up giving birth, one a normal birth another an emergency caesarian of a premature baby following attempted late abortions. 4 abortions and 1 18 year old who is currently pregnant and already tried unsuccessfully at abort twice.[/QUOTE]Impressive! This reads like a casualty report from the Battle of Dunkirk.

[QUOTE=Cuchulain;1142433]Does anyone know the lapu lapu scene?[/QUOTE]Yes I'm familiar with Mactan and Lapu2x and as I have said before, it is a world onto itself! Most guys just pass through coming to and from the airport and don't give it a second thought. The fact is there are probably more boarding houses per square kilometer then anywhere in the Pines! These house women that are the backbone to the growing manufacturing sector, among other things.

There are several malls including the new Grand Gaisano which upon my last visit still had a few vacancies but was gaining traction. The best mall for women in my opinion is the old Gaisano located on the National Highway. Marina Mall is another possible place for meeting available women.

The bar scene is good with over a dozen go go bars that cater to the ever present Asian clientele as well as local expats. There are more then a few casas with some reserved only for the Japanese. Find a trustworthy cabbie who can take you around and show you the nightlife. One time a cabbie took me to a shooting range where I was able to shoot the gun of my choice including a M-16!

If you are friendly and adventurous, you should be able to make friends very quickly just by walking around and / or hanging out. My local Pinoys friends have some reservations exploring Lapu2x but that is because they fear the unknown. But those who seek shall find a bonanza!

[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1144167]Impressive! This reads like a casualty report from the Battle of Dunkirk.[/QUOTE]Depressing rather than impressive

[QUOTE=GregLondon;1144162]The whole thing is a major headache and one of the root causes of many of the problems faced in the Phils.[/QUOTE]Ah I see a business opportunity here, and potential for funding from the US: Guetto Priest / Family Planning Clinic

Started to reply to your private message but as I was typing, my message somehow got sent to you before I had finished the first line. I tried to resend the message but your mailbox is full. Please delete some of your old messages so I can reply to you.

Mortman

Heading back to Cebu and Davao the third week of May, and I am contemplating to try another area.

I stayed at Park Lane close to Ayalla last trip, and got curious on Lapu Lapu after reading about it here. I only have two days before I go to Davao, so not much time to waste. Is it better to meet my "friends" and head for Mango Av a night, oris Lapu Lapu penetrable in just 48 hours?

GregLondon, you know I am a generous gentleman with a fetish so why don't you refer all those pregnant girls to me so I can help them out? .96% of the girls I see are normal, non pregnant, but it is the 4% that are super hard to meet, so any referrals are most welcome.

B

I am a DIA guy, but have to admit that it is a laborious process of online chatting.

And numerous, mind numbing, text messages. For a change last night I went to check out

Mango Square. Sat at a table near the entrance to Juliana's, nursing a Tanduay Ice and observing.

The passing parade. Lots of girls heading into Juliana's and quite a few free lancers searching for company.

Two girls joined me at my table, hoping for a double invite. I chose one and gave the other 100 pesos.

As they were friends.

My girl was an enthusiastic partner with advanced blow job skills and a capacity for multiple orgasms.

She was happy to get 500 pesos and a couple of hundred for a late night cab back to Mandaue.

I reflected afterwards that this was both a nice change and an efficient use of time and money.

Freebies are Not Cheap. They require lots of time and money spent on taxis, meals and trips to resorts.

With additional outlays for bikinis, sarongs, sandals, etc.

For well under a thousand pesos and no strings attached, there's a lot to be said for going this browser route.

There is a lot to be said for freelancers vs. Dia girls but I still like that GFE once you get a good one.

Sounds like your dia friends have been well-worn and spoiled by previous international bfs.

I like to have a gf working a normal job and sleeping with me at nite. During the day, freelancers.

Are used for afternoon delights. Also, scheduling is not a challenge using freelancers. The combo works best for me.

Cheapy.

[QUOTE=Questor55; 1144599]I am a DIA guy, but have to admit that it is a laborious process of online chatting.

And numerous, mind numbing, text messages. For a change last night I went to check out

Mango Square. Sat at a table near the entrance to Juliana's, nursing a Tanduay Ice and observing.

The passing parade. Lots of girls heading into Juliana's and quite a few free lancers searching for company.

Two girls joined me at my table, hoping for a double invite. I chose one and gave the other 100 pesos.

As they were friends.

My girl was an enthusiastic partner with advanced blow job skills and a capacity for multiple orgasms.

She was happy to get 500 pesos and a couple of hundred for a late night cab back to Mandaue.

I reflected afterwards that this was both a nice change and an efficient use of time and money.

Freebies are Not Cheap. They require lots of time and money spent on taxis, meals and trips to resorts.

With additional outlays for bikinis, sarongs, sandals, etc.

For well under a thousand pesos and no strings attached, there's a lot to be said for going this browser route.[/QUOTE]

I had a lot of positive PM response on me mentioning the word "pregnant" in the same sentence as "fetish". More than me that are into pregnant girl, but apparently some fuck heads here can not live with other having this fetish and flame guys who write about this horrible perversion.

As I wrote before 96% of my girls are non pregnant but I will share an experience that will [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] of all the narrow minded and make the preggo-lovers happy.

I had two preggos last trip in March. One was quite an amazing story. I took the virginity of this 19 year old girl in September 2010 and she made the mistake to introduce me to her friend that came to meet my friend. I told her that there was no friend to meet, but she insisted to come and then we would try to meet one together (lame excuse). Well she met me instead. Lovely girls both of them. As it ended up they where sort of competing a bit against each other. One tall and sexy legs (the ex virgin) , the other smaller with big tits and lovely innocent eyes.

I mentioned to the tall one that I would like to have sex with a pregnant girl next time I come to Phil and she promised she would ask her 19 year old best friend, E. Her husband is very jealous and never lets her out of the house, but the tall one would invite her out for pizza and then I would join them and if E liked me she would come with us to the room, and the tall one would go out for a while E earned herself a new (used) cell phone and some cash.

So I meet these two girls in the Mall and E turns out to be a beautiful young teen with some extra kilos over her ass and amazingly big tits. We are talking big also by European measures. They where just pushing to get out. So we go to the room but E is a bit short in the way that pinays get when they know that are acting like a wh*re and are ashamed to some friend. In the room I figured I will ask if I can feel her tummy as the tall one is playing music on Youtube. I start to rub it and let my hand wander to her huge tits, and E tense up a bit and nods to the tall one. 100 peso for a juice and me and E are alone. As I start to undress E I can see her eyes getting all misty and horny and figure this girl does not see much cock nowadays (pregnant sex = taboo for many in the Philippines).

I take of her bra and her huge tits just bounces out, even bigger than promised. Swollen and really firm. A great kisser but still a bit ambivalent to her sin. As I take of her panties I can see that she is very juiced up. Her panties are all wet and sticky and she is already dripping a bit down her butt crack. I take out a condom but here I get a big NO. No condom allowed. No motivation either. I start to say "what if you get." and realize that this will not happen twice at the same time in nature. Hard to stop in this situation so I remind myself that E only had one man in her life and is said to be a "good girl" (yes I am tested OK now for the whole range of STD).

I say ok and ask her where I should shoot my load. And she says that her tummy is good. So I kiss her some more and press my cock in her wet fanny only to feel that she is still really tight. I experience this before and can not get my head around it. 6 months pregnant and tight as a virgin. I fuck her tight fanny while her knockers bounce around, and fight hard not to be the 5 minute wonder but loose. She is just to lovely and I can not help to shoot my load on her tummy and pussy. To my surprise she takes my cock and rubs and fucks in my sperm in her wet fanny, all wiggling around on the bed. Very horny wanting to have more. After some afterburner love she starts to get all guilt ridden again and decides it is time to shower alone and get dressed to go home. The tall one comes back. Material things change owners. I kiss E goodbye, pack my bag and get on my bike and drive to the nearest beach resort with the tall teen where she is introduced to love making, part two.

But that is another story.

B

[QUOTE=D Cups;1144742]Where exactly is Juliana's please? And Mango Square? Is it near Diplomat Hotel. Geez, I got to getta map. Thanks.[/QUOTE]If you walk up to Maxilom from Diplomat, cross the street, turn right and proceed down the street in the direction of the main bar area it will be on your left before you reach there. Should be no more than 10 minutes on foot, though you might not want to do that walk at night.

[QUOTE=D Cups; 1142204]Ditto. I had some great times at the Silver Dollar in the back room and with take-out.

Maya from there was a superb porn star! [/QUOTE]I agree on both counts. I liked Silver Dollar because it opened at 11 am (later 12 noon) and you had some where to kill time and get a nice ST.

I always wanted to take the waitress and she would not even give me the time of day. Fast forward a year and she is working in a new bar and she is all on me. I was shocked and asked her why the change and she told me that the owner of Silver Dollar would fire the waitress if they tried to barfine, but her new bar allowed bar fines. I took her out and she picked up another waitress she knew in another bar and she had a great three-sum.

From a very reliable source it was closed due to the owner not paying the staff. He paid the dancers, but not the staff and they turned him in to DOLE.

Robb

[QUOTE=Barba;1144679]....I will share an experience that will [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] of all the narrow minded and make the preggo-lovers happy.[/QUOTE]Great FR B! While I have never gone out actively seeking preggos, I have had preggo sex with the ex-wife (warden) , and some ex-gf's (want to be wardens). I don't know why anyone would get upset about this fetish. Even the gynecologist will tell the girls that preggo sex is OK up until the last trimester. I was very happy reading your report! :D

Enjoy!

HW

[QUOTE=D Cups; 1145033]Hi Robb, do you know what bar Maya went to? She is worth repeating.

Also if anyone has seen any busty Cebuanas could you kindly let me know? I will be in Cebu May 20-22 and would be happy to repay you in San Migs. I've got some DIAs lined up but that is always a gamble. Happy horndogging! [/QUOTE]D Cups I will hook you up with some numbers I got from a fellow monger. Confirmed good size cups.

Will send you a PM later.

B

[quote=hairy wonder; 1144848]great fr b! while i have never gone out actively seeking preggos, i have had preggo sex with the ex-wife (warden) , and some ex-gf's (want to be wardens). i don't know why anyone would get upset about this fetish. even the gynecologist will tell the girls that preggo sex is ok up until the last trimester. i was very happy reading your report! .

enjoy!

hw[/quote]yea, if there is no medical issue it is even recommended in some countries to have regular sexual activities during pregnancy. not that i need such advice.

i guess it is just the "unknown" that rubs some guys the wrong way. one misconception seems to be that preggo lovers wish to be babies and in fact fuck these girls to drink the milk. this is not the case for me. in fact many women do not start to produce milk until late in the 8:th month. i guess a born again baby would wait until after the delivery. now that is something i find harder to grasp. these guys that sit in baby beds with a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord132][CodeWord132][/url] and baby hat, and are taken care of. i saw a few minutes of a british documentary on this topic. managers and "men with power" that got a kick from being treated like babies. this is not sex but more towards playful therapy for me, even if i try to keep a very open mind. but i never tried so what do i know. wonder if isg has any policy on how different / weird things can be to be allowed here, or if it is just the general censorship commonly found in any large group of men, that will set the standards? i remember one guy being flamed for admitting to requesting a finger up his ass in some geyland fish bowl. a finger in the ass must be a clear sign that this guy is one of these f*cking homosexuals. (yes i am ironic)

in any case i am glad someone liked the story and i hope that i get to read more adventures of all sorts here on the board. variation makes life colorful, and most people here can handle it. so come on and post you lurking preggo lover. i know you are out there.

/barba counting down to next trip

[QUOTE=D Cups; 1145033]Hi Robb, do you know what bar Maya went to? She is worth repeating.

Also if anyone has seen any busty Cebuanas could you kindly let me know? I will be in Cebu May 20-22 and would be happy to repay you in San Migs. I've got some DIAs lined up but that is always a gamble. Happy horndogging! [/QUOTE]Sorry I have not been to Cebu since February. I have been hanging out in Manila and AC. Summer is here and the airlines have all changed their schedules, so it easier for me to head to Manila.

Robb

[QUOTE=Barba;1145064]? I remember one guy being flamed for admitting to requesting a finger up his ass in some Geyland fish bowl. A finger in the ass must be a clear sign that this guy is one of these f*cking homosexuals.[/QUOTE]I've been to Geylang and had one Thai gal in the legal houses stuck a finger up my butt once (didn't ask her so it was a shock to me when it happened). She was just being too playful as my fingers were roaming all over her. Didn't make me feel gay but just having a bit of fun with us both.

[QUOTE=GregLondon;1144162]. Girls are given zero sex education. A large majority of Phil guys and a high proportion of foreigners refuse to wear condoms. Girls are generally too shy / poor / embarrassed to seek STD treatment unless the symptoms become really obvious. Getting advice on abortions here is a nightmare as is picking up abortion drugs or finding out about underground clinics and advice on the right dosage etc, the girls are often getting conflicting advice re whether to keep or abort the baby. The whole thing is a major headache and one of the root causes of many of the problems faced in the Phils.[/QUOTE]True, this is a society based on the teachings of the Catholic Church and even the very mention of abortion is taboo to most families. They would rather keep an unwanted child rather than abort it. Also, due to the cost, only the ones with some money can even consider this option.

[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2;1145195]True, this is a society based on the teachings of the Catholic Church and even the very mention of abortion is taboo to most families. They would rather keep an unwanted child rather than abort it. Also, due to the cost, only the ones with some money can even consider this option.[/QUOTE]It's not just the Catholic Church. Most of the other denominations that hold sway in this country.

Are united in their opposition to any effective means of controlling the sky-rocketing population.

Abortion is Mortal Sin period! If you're locked into a 'simple' life, then simple thought processes.

Dictate unquestioning acceptance.

[QUOTE=Questor55; 1144154]All 146 were carted off to a detention center. Does this herald further "rescue" raids to protect the thousands of victims in all the other bars? Couldn't possibly be another meaningless grand-standing event, could it?

More likely, that somone either pissed the authorities off, or (cynical me) , the elevation of shake-down 'fees'[/QUOTE]This 'rescue' was historic for Cebu in that none of the local authorities were involved, similar to the raids that have taken place in AC. Instead it was federal agents from several government agencies including some manpower from USA. You see the Philippines is on the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] watch list and in order to secure funding from the USA government, steps must be taken to crack down on the biggest offenders.

[QUOTE=Mattrick;1145250]This 'rescue' was historic for Cebu in that none of the local authorities were involved, similar to the raids that have taken place in AC. Instead it was federal agents from several government agencies including some manpower from USA. You see the Philippines is on the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] watch list and in order to secure funding from the USA government, steps must be taken to crack down on the biggest offenders.[/QUOTE]Amazing! The government is running record deficits but can still finance the cost of saving hookers from themselves on the other side of the world. If we could stay out of other countries' business we'd be able to pay off the national debt in a few years.

[QUOTE=Questor55; 1145234]It's not just the Catholic Church. Most of the other denominations that hold sway in this country.

Are united in their opposition to any effective means of controlling the sky-rocketing population.

Abortion is Mortal Sin period! If you're locked into a 'simple' life, then simple thought processes.

Dictate unquestioning acceptance. [/QUOTE]Resistence is futile. .

[QUOTE=Barba;1144679]But that is another story.B[/QUOTE]Brilliant report, Barba; and I look forward to chapter 2.

I sadly must admit, at the ripe old age of 63, I've yet to record my first preggo. Will definitely put it on the bucket list.

[QUOTE=Redd55;1145283]Resistence is futile. .[/QUOTE]What's even more tragic is that the middle and upper classes here; those with money and education totally ignore the church, have small families and educate their kids. The poor, the ignorant and the repressed keep churning out babies at an alarming rate with no thought about how they will support them or educate them, thus perpetuating endless cycles of poverty among an ever-growing poor class. The church is the third rail here, and is as influential in politics as the government. It's an abomination.

Just had dinner with my current companion up at I T Park, close to Waterfront Hotel in Lahug.

It's the first time I've been there and was surprised on several counts. Looks and feels like separate.

Country. Clean, well organized, quiet, attractive streets and sidewalks. My God, am I still in the Phiippines?

Adding to this state of disbelief, lots of young, attractive and SLIM girls!

I was later informed that the upscale businesses and call centers here tend to hire young, slim, upwardly mobile,

Attractive Babes. Regret that I wasn't able to put my game face on and try my luck. I doubt we are looking at

Quick scores here, but curious to know if anyone else has had sucess in I T Park.

[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2;1145190]I've been to Geylang and had one Thai gal in the legal houses stuck a finger up my butt once (didn't ask her so it was a shock to me when it happened). She was just being too playful as my fingers were roaming all over her. Didn't make me feel gay but just having a bit of fun with us both.[/QUOTE]In case it escaped anyone; I was ironic. I am not homophobic.

Back to Cebu in May for a couple of nights. Tried Parklane at Ayalla last time and are thinking about some other area and hotel. Close (ish) to a mall and some bars like Red Lips. I understand I need to watch my back but like to walk instead of always taking taxis. I am fine in a simpler place. Always stay in 1000-1500 PHP hotels in Davao. I did read the forum but my problem is that I have a bunch of different options and advice, and can not decide now. So I hope some persuasive Cebu expert will direct me to THE hotel. Food or other service is secondary to location and a reasonable price. I have a Smart dongle so wifi is not important.

Seems like these are mentioned frequently but reviews var a lot. Both here and on Tripadvisor.

Marco Polo Plaza.

Elizabeth.

Crown Regency

Diplomat.

Kiwi Lodge.

Golden Prince (that I tried)

Thanks for any advice.

/B

Can any one tell me of safe gated accommodation in Cebu please and the rent

[QUOTE=Barba; 1145518]In case it escaped anyone; I was ironic. I am not homophobic.

Back to Cebu in May for a couple of nights. Tried Parklane at Ayalla last time and are thinking about some other area and hotel. Close (ish) to a mall and some bars like Red Lips. I understand I need to watch my back but like to walk instead of always taking taxis. I am fine in a simpler place. Always stay in 1000-1500 PHP hotels in Davao. I did read the forum but my problem is that I have a bunch of different options and advice, and can not decide now. So I hope some persuasive Cebu expert will direct me to THE hotel. Food or other service is secondary to location and a reasonable price. I have a Smart dongle so wifi is not important.

Seems like these are mentioned frequently but reviews var a lot. Both here and on Tripadvisor.

Marco Polo Plaza.

Elizabeth.

Crown Regency

Diplomat.

Kiwi Lodge.

Golden Prince (that I tried)

Thanks for any advice.

/B[/QUOTE]Try the richmond in between ayala and the girlie bars some rooms have great views

[QUOTE=Barba; 1145518]In case it escaped anyone; I was ironic. I am not homophobic.

/B[/QUOTE]Sorry Barba,

My reply was not directed at you at all but really at the point on the post where others were "flaming" the monger in Geylang that just wanted a gal to stick a finger in the ass. I was just saying it was out of fun and fetish but not to imply anything else. Afterall, just the fact that the monger was even with a "gal" said it all.

Cheers

Have not had much of a chance yet to exp the naughty side of cebu but here is my update so far.

Robinson mall and Midtown hotel had a major fire on Sunday April 17th and looks to be closed until further notice.

So obviously not going to find any girls there.

Taxi quickly drove me through Jounquras, its just right up the road from the from colon, maybe 1 km.

Only saw about 10 girls, but my taxi cab driver was trying to make some money so he might of just shown me the ones he wanted to me see. I passed but it was fun to see the pimps jumping around like monkeys.

I stay at the gv tower, I like it alot, out of the 5 places I have stayed in cebu, this is by far the best 850 pesos for a double very clean nice hotel, food kind of sucks, but in my opinion the food sucks most place in cebu. Obviously I am going to the wrong places.

Ok my gf is sleeping off to meet my first dia contact. Wish me luck.

Agree that GV Tower food is not good, plus sometimes the lobby wifi sucks. For improvement in both, taxi or "uphill" walk to Cybergate Mall on Fuente Osmenia. Upstairs, there is a food court.

Plus some decent restaurants. Plenty of table space for laptop usage. (Go charged / no outlets).

Mr. Js (restaurant / bar) is good for late afternoon beer and possible student puckups. From GV just past SOGO on next corner (left side).

Enjoy,

Cheapy

[QUOTE=Cuchulain; 1146574]Have not had much of a chance yet to exp the naughty side of cebu but here is my update so far.

Robinson mall and Midtown hotel had a major fire on Sunday April 17th and looks to be closed until further notice.

So obviously not going to find any girls there.

Taxi quickly drove me through Jounquras, its just right up the road from the from colon, maybe 1 km.

Only saw about 10 girls, but my taxi cab driver was trying to make some money so he might of just shown me the ones he wanted to me see. I passed but it was fun to see the pimps jumping around like monkeys.

I stay at the gv tower, I like it alot, out of the 5 places I have stayed in cebu, this is by far the best 850 pesos for a double very clean nice hotel, food kind of sucks, but in my opinion the food sucks most place in cebu. Obviously I am going to the wrong places.

Ok my gf is sleeping off to meet my first dia contact. Wish me luck. [/QUOTE]

Yea, I kind of thought so. Fortunately, most people here seem to have quite a high tolerance for deviating sexual habits. I had a cute girlfriend once, way before I discovered mongering. She had read some book on Chinese lovemaking and at one point, while giving me a blow job, she rammed a finger up my ass. For sure there was a reaction.."Auiiiiiiiiii, what the fu!" Painful.

B

[QUOTE=Phantomtiger2; 1146199]Sorry Barba,

My reply was not directed at you at all but really at the point on the post where others were "flaming" the monger in Geylang that just wanted a gal to stick a finger in the ass. I was just saying it was out of fun and fetish but not to imply anything else. Afterall, just the fact that the monger was even with a "gal" said it all.

Cheers[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cansx;1145867]Try the richmond in between ayala and the girlie bars some rooms have great views[/QUOTE]Thanks Cansx, I will check it out.

B

had my first dia contact when my gf was sleeping during the day. i knew she was mid 30s and not looker so she brought her cute tiny little 19 yr old cousin.

we went to queensland short time. i want to be so clear with this. this ws my first time at queensland, it is so discrete you could bring pretty much anyone or anything with you and the only person would see them is the car hop guy in the parking garage. not only is there parking garage but, they garge doors to the parking spots. you could mayor and get away with action here. 320 pesos short time.

well we agreed on a price before heading to queensland with both of them. they quickly showered but i could tell this was not going to be a highlight of my trip. once i strarted going down on the cute one, the older one strarted getting dressed. yes that fast within a min. i asked what she was doing. obviously major attitude so i told her to wait in the outside room. queensland looks to have a waiting room in all the rooms and i quickly put her in there. so the younger one would loosen up a bit. niether girl would do bj and would not let me use viborator on them. the thing was pretty disappointing besides the tight little body on her cousin.

staying at the gv tower. great place, i take less taxi rides and lots of stuff near by, a newer mall just down the road a block with food court. i stayed in 5 pension houses and this is the same money and way nicer. the food is not great and some of the staff are a little questionalble about the service but this is a no brainer for me. 850 pesos double, i think 650 single, but just like anywhere else singles are always gone so you have to book those early. i will next trip. its located right as you come into downtown cebu from funentes circle.

lots of action down here but pretty scary stuff.

there is a disco 2 blocks over and tons of lady boys walking by in front of the sogo hotel, i also saw about 50 prosti. 40 being ****. 50 more ladyboys all in one night, while sitting on the step for about 90 mins talking to the security guard.

the pimps over on the nex street where cebu century is located, are very pushy and almost a joke of the different ways they will try to make money off of you. they ask where you going and walk with you. then they walk in there like they brought you there and try to pinch the manager for a referal fee. i try to be nice and firm saying no no no, but i guess when i am the only gringo that will still speak to them.

have a few dia contacts working on, but my gf keeping me so happy, i don't have the desire. smart girl.

philippines is a great place, i am early 40s overweight by way to much and being my second trip, find new girls everyday i would take out in a heartbeat. but they do not throw themselves at you in general, just quick smiles, which is a big hint.

robinsons mall and midtown still closes, pretty good size fire heard they were going to reopen on the 25th we will see. just scrap off the burt part and move right?

more later.

[quote=cuchulain;1147104]there is a disco 2 blocks over and tons of lady boys walking by in front of the sogo hotel, i also saw about 50 prosti. 40 being ****. 50 more ladyboys all in one night, while sitting on the step for about 90 mins talking to the security guard..[/quote]great report cuchulain. funny how there was a bit a flaming going on a few weeks ago when another board member suggested the same thing and was accused of making the story up. it just goes to show that what you see on one day at a certain time, may not necessarily be reflected on another day at another time.

keep the reports coming

mortman

I dropped in to Lone Star, my favorite Cebu bar last Monday evening and had my usual good fun there.

I was told that Graham, the Aussie Lone Star owner, has bought Silver Dollar and it is open for business again.

If he runs the same operation / business model in SD as he does in Lone Star, then fun times are back again.

My friends in LS desperately wanted me to go bar-hopping with them to check out SD but I didn't have the time.

Can we have a heads-up from a Cebu local on Silver Dollar please. Opening times? Prices?

How many baby cockroaches run past your beer on the bar in 15 minutes? That sort of information? LOL

[quote=cuchulain; 1147104]there is a disco 2 blocks over and tons of lady boys walking by in front of the sogo hotel, i also saw about 50 prosti. 40 being ****. 50 more ladyboys all in one night, while sitting on the step for about 90 mins talking to the security guard.

in 90 mins you saw 50 prosti girls heading for the down town disco eh? thats about 1 girl in less than every 2 mins passed by you. and 40 of them were ****. and this, on your second trip to the philippines too, i see.

fifty more ladyboys passed by in the same time frame, ie, approx 100 people passed you in 90mins, more than one a minute, and you were able to competently decide they were a bunch of prostitutes and ladbyboys. well done.

for those readers who have not been outside sogo, that's one hell of a lot of traffic walking along that part of town, at night. never seen that kind of action there, unless poster got them bused in, lol.

how many beers had you drunk before you witnessed these amazing sightings?

i have been to those downtown disco's as you call them, out of curiosity, and i tell you, very few if any prostitute girls go to them. they are poor boy meets poor girl disco's, and from my observations, better for foreigners to keep away from them, otherwise you might tangle with a drunk filipino guy.

i say, if 50 girls, maybe 2/3 are prostitutes, not 40 as reported. after two trips to phils you can tell who and who is not a prostitute, who and who is not a ladyboy, in a split second, as they walk by, not bad.

the fact is, they are poor girls and guys who can't afford to go to other more refined disco's, not prostitutes and not ladyboys. small number might be prostitutes and ladyboys, but nowhere near the figs you quote.

****, well they would be young yes, but they are not going to the disco to sell themselves, so no problem there.

just another example of colourful language. guys from afar, iceland wherever, don't believe all you read, lol.

sorry, off again, just happened to spot that one on easter eve. chances are i will get tired of picking you guys up on your misleading reports. i don't think it will matter too much though, cause such reports are at least amusing to more experienced persons. but misleading for others, that's the problem.

it seems new arrivals like the current poster, and tom before, get all excited, thus finding it difficult to report things as they really are.

i will not get any medals for pulling you misleading guys in line, so goodbye. will read your colourful posts with amusement, but don't think its worth my time to respond to them anymore.

readers of this forum, i suggest you stick to the senior guys who did not fly in yesterday, post regular, reliable, factual reports. their names escape me for the moment, but soon as i see them on the page i recognise their pen names and read their informative and reliable stuff.

the other posters, and their amazing sightings, are for your amusement only. remember that.

enough.

[QUOTE=Barba;1144679]ITo my surprise she takes my cock and rubs and fucks in my sperm in her wet fanny, all wiggling around on the bed. B[/QUOTE]This must be one of the greatest moments in puning history. Well done!

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1147356]I dropped in to Lone Star, my favorite Cebu bar last Monday evening and had my usual good fun there.

I was told that Graham, the Aussie Lone Star owner, has bought Silver Dollar and it is open for business again.

If he runs the same operation / business model in SD as he does in Lone Star, then fun times are back again.

My friends in LS desperately wanted me to go bar-hopping with them to check out SD but I didn't have the time.

Can we have a heads-up from a Cebu local on Silver Dollar please. Opening times? Prices?

How many baby cockroaches run past your beer on the bar in 15 minutes? That sort of information? LOL[/QUOTE]Red Kilt,

Yes Graham of Lone Star is the new owner of Silver Dollar, but I heard back in March there was the possibility of a partner, Chris the former part owner of Silver Dollar and Blue Angels. I am not sure if that is the case or Graham is the only owner. I bumped into Graham 4am at Julianas a few weeks ago when SD was closed but its not the right time to talk about business.

Robb posted it was closed because Carl did not pay the staff, I don't think thats the direct cause. He did not pay the staff because he did not have the cash. The credit card machine was turned off weeks before due to non payment and the suppliers one by one were not paid and stopped deliveries. The end result was clear 60days before the bar closed as Carl looked to sell and get out.

I have not visited since the bar reopened so I can't comment on the resident cockroach population but I did walk by last week and there was a new photocopied sign on the door that reads "Open 1pm- 1am".

Updates on the New Silver Dollar would be informative, barfines, prices, same staff or new staff?

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1148110]Red Kilt,

Yes Graham of Lone Star is the new owner of Silver Dollar, but I heard back in March there was the possibility of a partner, Chris the former part owner of Silver Dollar and Blue Angels. I am not sure if that is the case or Graham is the only owner. I bumped into Graham 4am at Julianas a few weeks ago when SD was closed but its not the right time to talk about business.

Robb posted it was closed because Carl did not pay the staff, I don't think thats the direct cause. He did not pay the staff because he did not have the cash. The credit card machine was turned off weeks before due to non payment and the suppliers one by one were not paid and stopped deliveries. The end result was clear 60days before the bar closed as Carl looked to sell and get out.

I have not visited since the bar reopened so I can't comment on the resident cockroach population but I did walk by last week and there was a new photocopied sign on the door that reads "Open 1pm- 1am".

Updates on the New Silver Dollar would be informative, barfines, prices, same staff or new staff? [/QUOTE]I heard keith is his partner. I don't think graham is stupid enough to have cris as a partner.

Update: As someone else reported last week Robinson's Mall was closed due to fire. As of today it was still closed until further notice. Of course most of Cebu is closed also in honor of Holy Week.

[QUOTE=ViceCaptain;1147760]This must be one of the greatest moments in puning history. Well done![/QUOTE]Yesssss it was sweet. And I am working hard on arranging a reunion in May. She is a tough cookie to get a moment with but god, her tits must be even bigger and juicer now.

B

Damn, I got to take my hat off to Graham the owner of Lone Star bar! This guy drinks and party just about EVERY night of the week at his bar and others! His liver probably wants to know what tha fucks going on!

[QUOTE=Mayntain;1148614]Damn, I got to take my hat off to Graham the owner of Lone Star bar! This guy drinks and party just about EVERY night of the week at his bar and others! His liver probably wants to know what tha fucks going on![/QUOTE]Graham is a great guy. Despite his readiness for a party I have never seen him either under the weather or not in full control of his situation. I hope he gets Silver Dollar up and running same as Lone Star. I will have 2 places to switch back and forth between on my next trip to Cebu. Woo hoo,

Dear all.

One of my friends in Cebu City needs has a financial problem and needs urgently a friend. She is a working student, studies some afternoons and works in the evening. She is not a pro and very beautiful and accomondating. Please send me a PM if you are interested. You will not regret, promise!

Sumart

First of all I want to say thanks to all of you good people on here, I've been reading for months on here before my first trip to cebu (or asia for that matter).

I really fell for the place, but a strange thing happend there. Had one last night to spend there and after being out all day I return to my room, and find that there was missing 5000 peso. But the strange thing is that I had 15 000 in my backpack together, and it was only 5000 missing. Anybody else had this happen?

It just dosnt make any sence to me, either take it all or don't take! Don't mess with my head! But I had room cleaning that day, and a girl I had living with me for 3 days (met on dia) , but she come back the same night after I got at the hotel, like we planned. Hmm. So I'm just asking you guys if this is normal here?

And again, thanks for all the tips and everything, it made things easier for me there!

This girl is sweet. I met her a couple of times and she needs money badly.

Please be nice to her. She has a sweet personality. Not a pro so do not expect porn star performance, but she likes sex. Cheap Charlie best stay away since she needs cash and not more guys fucking her life up.

[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/miss.beautiful.html[/url]

She is pretty realistic but no need to complicate things by mentioning ISG or me.

/B

[QUOTE=Sumart; 1149115]Dear all.

One of my friends in Cebu City needs has a financial problem and needs urgently a friend. She is a working student, studies some afternoons and works in the evening. She is not a pro and very beautiful and accomondating. Please send me a PM if you are interested. You will not regret, promise!

Sumart[/QUOTE]Hi I am in cebu now, but can not pm you not sure what I can do I paid my membership but there was a problem

Ron

[QUOTE=Barba; 1149265]This girl is sweet. I met her a couple of times and she needs money badly.

Please be nice to her. She has a sweet personality. Not a pro so do not expect porn star performance, but she likes sex. Cheap Charlie best stay away since she needs cash and not more guys fucking her life up.

[url]http://www.dateinasia.com/miss.beautiful.html[/url]

She is pretty realistic but no need to complicate things by mentioning ISG or me.

/B[/QUOTE]Barba, gents. I'm going to muddy the water a bit. Regarding the passing of girl's information, phone numbers, dating contacts, etc. Reference Barba's post, and others who have posted that this girl or that girl is looking for some help (thanks, the members appreciate that, and the girl also). Also Hairy Wonder posted today in the Chatroom / Penpal section something similar, saying a girl insisted on p5000.

There can be some confusion and misunderstanding about what the girl's expectation is."Cheap Charlie best stay away." What does that mean? Last year a board member passed me the YM and phone number of a student in Cebu when I was visiting. Another student who needed help. A quick chat in YM and she was at the hotel 90 minutes later. A typical 3-hour afternoon session followed. While she was in the bathroom dressing to leave, I put a p500-note in her purse (never had a cebuena complain at that amount, most smile and kiss my cheek on the way out; then offer a repeat or a cousin). When she said "you pay me now" I told her it was in her purse. She took it out and this angry thing ensued:

Her: 500! 500?

Me: yes. Its what I give to all the girls.

Her: 2000!

Me: what?

Her: yes your friend always give 2000. I have exam fee tomorrow!

I told her that she should have clarified in advance her expectation. Actually I was steaming mad at the board member for not having told me. I tossed her an extra p500 to attempt to avoid an extended argument. She left angry still. Right away I PM'd him here to ask about it. He replied later that yes, he liked to spoil the girls, and no, he was unaware that they would work for 500 on a ST. He said the girl had also sent him an angry txt (understandably).

How the F*CK does an experienced board member not know what the going rate is? It behooves us, I think, as recipients of this information (myself) , to clarify with the giver, or the girl, her expectation. What does Barba's comment about "Cheap Charlie" mean? 300? 500? 1000? 2000? 5000? Really it represents spoilage on the part of the college girl when she insisted no 2000 pesos for a few hours work (she's used to others paying it).

[QUOTE=Paulr1950; 1149268]Hi I am in cebu now, but can not pm you not sure what I can do I paid my membership but there was a problem

Ron[/QUOTE]I also cannot send you a PM. Please pay the fee

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1149563]What does Barba's comment about "Cheap Charlie" mean? 300? 500? 1000? 2000? 5000?.[/QUOTE]Westcoast1, your right. It is just as unclear for you, as it is for me. I am not sure exactly what I was trying to say. Maybe an attempt to filter out all the pocket wanking, semi alcoholic, broke slobs that most likely will be the first to spam her. I tend to overpay girls sometimes, and sometimes I "only" pay 500. The girl I linked to will of course like 2000 but she also needs 500, so it is up for negotiation. For me 500 or 2000 makes little difference. I am not insinuating that anyone here can not afford 2000, but I never was able to relate to the idea of helping financially weaker people to get laid. I do not see how it relates to me. If I spend 2000-5000 a night in a hotel, I can just as well spend another 1500-2000 on a girl if I feel she deserves it. If I need to cut down, I do it on the hotel and not on the girls "taxi money". If this means that next man can not afford to fuck her, it is not my problem. He will most likely not afford the hotel either, and this never seems to be an issue. In a sense most men on the globe share the hobby discussed here on ISG, and it is unreasonable to assume that we are all connected and should attend some sort of pricing loyalty to every man trying to get laid. Pricing monopoly never did appeal to me in any form. I find the principles of supply and demand to be a cornerstone of any functioning economy. So to appeal to my kind heart for support for the next broke monger will not be wisely invested time. But I agree that I can be clearer if I do bother to post referrals her.

As for getting mad at the monger that referred the girl to you, in my humble opinion I think a monger should negotiate the price himself always. He tried to help you and her. Setting the price for any deal, is up to the two parts involved, unless you paid him as a broker or if there was a prior understanding that he deviated from.

I will remember your advice Westcoast1 and indicate a pricing level in any further referrals I might post.

In any case, anyone interested could always try with 300 peso and then move upwards. I do not know if this would make me or her feel more humiliated if I tried this, but who knows, maybe she is desperate enough to fuck someone for 300 pesos. Maybe the supply of teenage pussy is in such an abundance.

Regardless of the price, guys please do not be too tough on her. She was just born in the wrong spot on this globe, and apart from that she is a sweet girl that is trying very hard to keep her younger sisters from walking in her footsteps.

Al the best,

Barba

[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1149563]Barba, gents. I'm going to muddy the water a bit. Regarding the passing of girl's information, phone numbers, dating contacts, etc. Reference Barba's post, and others who have posted that this girl or that girl is looking for some help (thanks, the members appreciate that, and the girl also). Also Hairy Wonder posted today in the Chatroom / Penpal section something similar, saying a girl insisted on p5000.

There can be some confusion and misunderstanding about what the girl's expectation is."Cheap Charlie best stay away." What does that mean? Last year a board member passed me the YM and phone number of a student in Cebu when I was visiting. Another student who needed help. A quick chat in YM and she was at the hotel 90 minutes later. A typical 3-hour afternoon session followed. While she was in the bathroom dressing to leave, I put a p500-note in her purse (never had a cebuena complain at that amount, most smile and kiss my cheek on the way out; then offer a repeat or a cousin). When she said "you pay me now" I told her it was in her purse. She took it out and this angry thing ensued:

Her: 500! 500?

Me: yes. Its what I give to all the girls.

Her: 2000!

Me: what?

Her: yes your friend always give 2000. I have exam fee tomorrow!

I told her that she should have clarified in advance her expectation. Actually I was steaming mad at the board member for not having told me. I tossed her an extra p500 to attempt to avoid an extended argument. She left angry still. Right away I PM'd him here to ask about it. He replied later that yes, he liked to spoil the girls, and no, he was unaware that they would work for 500 on a ST. He said the girl had also sent him an angry txt (understandably).

How the F*CK does an experienced board member not know what the going rate is? It behooves us, I think, as recipients of this information (myself) , to clarify with the giver, or the girl, her expectation. What does Barba's comment about "Cheap Charlie" mean? 300? 500? 1000? 2000? 5000? Really it represents spoilage on the part of the college girl when she insisted no 2000 pesos for a few hours work (she's used to others paying it). [/QUOTE]WC, I normally agree with you, but this time I feel you are way off mark. You really expect these girls to fuck you for three+ hours for 500P? Maybe 500P for a SW who has 5 guys a day, but for a student who is trying to better herself and selling her body is the only way to do that.

I could understand 500P tip if you had paid the barfine, but 500P all in?

I have lived and worked here almost four years and most of these girls are very poor and meet us because they really need the money.

Robb

[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1149563]Barba, gents. I'm going to muddy the water a bit. Regarding the passing of girl's information, phone numbers, dating contacts, etc. Reference Barba's post, and others who have posted that this girl or that girl is looking for some help (thanks, the members appreciate that, and the girl also). Also Hairy Wonder posted today in the Chatroom / Penpal section something similar, saying a girl insisted on p5000.

There can be some confusion and misunderstanding about what the girl's expectation is."Cheap Charlie best stay away." What does that mean? Last year a board member passed me the YM and phone number of a student in Cebu when I was visiting. Another student who needed help. A quick chat in YM and she was at the hotel 90 minutes later. A typical 3-hour afternoon session followed. While she was in the bathroom dressing to leave, I put a p500-note in her purse (never had a cebuena complain at that amount, most smile and kiss my cheek on the way out; then offer a repeat or a cousin). When she said "you pay me now" I told her it was in her purse. She took it out and this angry thing ensued:

Her: 500! 500?

Me: yes. Its what I give to all the girls.

Her: 2000!

Me: what?

Her: yes your friend always give 2000. I have exam fee tomorrow!

I told her that she should have clarified in advance her expectation. Actually I was steaming mad at the board member for not having told me. I tossed her an extra p500 to attempt to avoid an extended argument. She left angry still. Right away I PM'd him here to ask about it. He replied later that yes, he liked to spoil the girls, and no, he was unaware that they would work for 500 on a ST. He said the girl had also sent him an angry txt (understandably).

How the F*CK does an experienced board member not know what the going rate is? It behooves us, I think, as recipients of this information (myself) , to clarify with the giver, or the girl, her expectation. What does Barba's comment about "Cheap Charlie" mean? 300? 500? 1000? 2000? 5000? Really it represents spoilage on the part of the college girl when she insisted no 2000 pesos for a few hours work (she's used to others paying it). [/QUOTE]While on a holiday to Boracay Island, PI last year, a waitress in a bar on the beach balked at a 500p tip after my

Wingman and I had lunch, hilarious! I think if we'd have been seriously drinking at that point in the day, things

Really could have gotten ugly fast, punches might have been thrown. Next time I'll have to make a point of visiting

Cebu.

As a matter of advice to new forum members, (like myself) , Boracay is not a good spot for mongering, (we took

Girls with us and it was still mildly disastrous). My guess is most more experienced mongers would not go to

Boracay, and if they did, would only take a girl or two who had more than proven themselves. Very beautiful place

Though, although, there doesn't appear to be many spots in the Visayas that aren't beautiful landscapes.

I could understand 500P tip if you had paid the barfine, but 500P all in?

I would give 500-700 depending on attitude myself 700 they had a good attitude there not working girls there just trying to make a bit on the side

[QUOTE=Northdog;1149262]I really fell for the place, but a strange thing happend there. Had one last night to spend there and after being out all day I return to my room, and find that there was missing 5000 peso. But the strange thing is that I had 15 000 in my backpack together, and it was only 5000 missing. Anybody else had this happen?[/QUOTE]No it is not a normal thing in Cebu to have your money stash pinched. But that is the M O employees use not to get noticed. Many times it works especially if the guest has been in party mode. In your case, you gave the unscrupulous employee an opportunity because you never secured your stash. How about giving us the name of the hotel?

It is a pity you cannot write a short FR about your perspective on the delights of Cebu. It is the best way to give back to the board!

[QUOTE=Westcoast1]How the F*CK does an experienced board member not know what the going rate is?[/QUOTE]There are a few different rates. Locals pay 500 and expat residents a bit more. But short term visitors cannot expect to get that same rate. Just like most everywhere in the Philippines, travelers are looked upon as being rich and will always pay accordingly.

[QUOTE=Sumart;1149590]I also cannot send you a PM. Please pay the fee[/QUOTE]I have already payed the fee, but Jackson does not want to seem to fix the problem.

[QUOTE=Robbaf; 1149614]WC, I normally agree with you, but this time I feel you are way off mark. You really expect these girls to fuck you for three+ hours for 500P?

Robb[/QUOTE]Actually, yes. I've had dozens of cebuanas. Exclude barfine girls (ie Vikings, etc) for a moment (will come back to them). I've been giving that amount for some time. After, most girls give me their number and ask for repeats. They offer a friend for the same amount. They desire to do it again when I'm back 6 months later (same price). If the price is too low that I'm offering, why are they returning? Further, another day following the incident mentioned, I was hit upon in the late morning by two girls in Ayala mall. They agreed to 1000 total and were happy with it (pics posted I think on the board). Later in the afternoon I was beset by two ladies in Robinson's, who were happy with the same price (500 ea).

On my last trip to Cebu, except for barfines, I gave every ST 500 and LT 1000. Except for the young lady mentioned, everyone was happy. One of my LT was a college girl met in DIA, happy with 1000 + Bo's coffee-and-muffin the next morning (gave me her number at Bo's, hopes a repeat). How is that coed any different than the girl who wanted 2000 for ST?

Back to the barfine girls. When I pay p1700, she stays LT and gets p1000 from my barfine. That's no different than getting p500 for ST.

Col, I'm with you. Giving trike / jeep money tip of 1-200 is fine.

[QUOTE=Robbaf;1149614]Maybe 500P for a SW who has 5 guys a day, but for a student who is trying to better herself and selling her body is the only way to do that.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure there is no diffference in a SW and a college girl and a bargirl. They all offer the same service. I can't imagine one being more deserving of the money than another (but, I've been wrong before).

Its also possible that prices are simply going up over time. On the other hand, giving a cebuana 2000 for a ST is spoilage (as the board member who gave me her number admitted). Thats twice what is given in Manila. Unless prices have changed, excluding barfine girls:

Manila: 1000 ST / 1500 LT. Outside Manila, subtract 500.

I'm not trying to cheap charlie. Routine spoilage, on the other hand, is to be avoided. My true cheap-charlie side is that I only tip for tryke.

Robb, what do you give them? Other gents?

[QUOTE=Mattrick; 1149629]No it is not a normal thing in Cebu to have your money stash pinched. But that is the M O employees use not to get noticed. Many times it works especially if the guest has been in party mode. In your case, you gave the unscrupulous employee an opportunity because you never secured your stash. How about giving us the name of the hotel?[/QUOTE]I understand that money gets stolen, but only take some? That is the part I don't get. The hotel? I rather not say since I don't know if its the girl or the hotel, hope you'll understand that.

I'm a newbie in this world, but I've been to a few stip clubs and got some fun out of it. But this was my first time in asia! So be nice with me!

I only had one pro, and I went to the silver dollar, and I had only my left leg inside the place when one of the dancers yelled: gwapo, fuck me please!

I'm not used to that, so I didn't respond and just went in and sat down. To girls were showing of thier "stuff" but had to dance, when one lady sat down and talked like a woman to me, I liked it, so I bought her a drink, then after awhile I asked if I could take her home and it was ok, and she said "best BJ in town" so I was sold! LOL, it was'nt the best, but she was nice the whole night so. But then I met a non pro on dia, I kinda fell for her, but now I realize it was the place (I could have had my sister in a swinsuit on a white beach and going to the tops, and it would have been special!) remember: frist time in asia!) but she told me thing that just didn't add up, like she only had one bf in her life and never gave had, but gave head better then the older chick at silver dollar! And other stuff.

But all in all, it won't be long till I'll be back in ph, if I can only get over the fact that every body lies!

Buts its fine if you only go for sex, but I had hoped for more, but I'll settel for the "one night love fest" too.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1149563]Also Hairy Wonder posted today in the Chatroom / Penpal section something similar, saying a girl insisted on p5000.[/QUOTE]WC.

Thanks for mentioning me in your post (I love seeing my name in lights). :D But I don't recall posting anything like that. Perhaps you have me confused with someone else that posted something about that.

I still think the amount given to the girl is up to the individual, and how he feels the session went. Personally, I think I would have simply told the girl that she could take the 500p and get out, or give it back and still get out. If price was not discussed before the deed, then she needs to be happy with what she gets. 500p for 3 hours is more than most filipinos will earn for a full day's work, or possibly even a full week.

HW

[QUOTE=Robbaf; 1149614]WC, I normally agree with you, but this time I feel you are way off mark. You really expect these girls to fuck you for three+ hours for 500P? Maybe 500P for a SW who has 5 guys a day, but for a student who is trying to better herself and selling her body is the only way to do that.

I could understand 500P tip if you had paid the barfine, but 500P all in?

I have lived and worked here almost four years and most of these girls are very poor and meet us because they really need the money.

Robb[/QUOTE]I am with Robb on this one, and I agree that 500 is under the odds. This is just my opinion. I never lecture anyone about what they should do or not do. We have to live with the consequences of whatever we do.

I believe 1500 php is a fair amount for short term activity, and especially for students who are desperately trying to put enough cash together for fees without even factoring in their need to eat as well.

I have never paid under 1500 in any P4P activity anywhere (except for most DIA or other meetings where there is no expectation of cash exchange).

I ALWAYS offer transport fees, as I believe that anyone should not be out of pocket for going to the trouble to meet me. I know some guys probably think women should pay them for the privilege of being f*ked by them but I don't happen to feel like that.

I'll be in Cebu for the first time in about 6 weeks and I find the tipping discussion interesting. 500p is less than US$12 and to me seems a little light even in a third world country. Call me weak but if the FL put up a fuss after I paid 500p, I would give her more money if I enjoyed the session. But I wouldn't criticize anybody for paying that if he chooses.

Silver Dollar, Red Lips, and Viking, and Amigos on on my list of places to visit. I assume these are go go type bars where a barfine is paid. Assuming a bf of about 1500p (that seems awfully high) how much do you tip the girls for ST and LT. I often prefer ST over LT.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1149670]Actually, yes. I've had dozens of cebuanas. Exclude barfine girls (ie Vikings, etc) for a moment (will come back to them). I've been giving that amount for some time. After, most girls give me their number and ask for repeats. They offer a friend for the same amount. They desire to do it again when I'm back 6 months later (same price). If the price is too low that I'm offering, why are they returning? Further, another day following the incident mentioned, I was hit upon in the late morning by two girls in Ayala mall. They agreed to 1000 total and were happy with it (pics posted I think on the board). Later in the afternoon I was beset by two ladies in Robinson's, who were happy with the same price (500 ea).

On my last trip to Cebu, except for barfines, I gave every ST 500 and LT 1000. Except for the young lady mentioned, everyone was happy. One of my LT was a college girl met in DIA, happy with 1000 + Bo's coffee-and-muffin the next morning (gave me her number at Bo's, hopes a repeat). How is that coed any different than the girl who wanted 2000 for ST?

Back to the barfine girls. When I pay p1700, she stays LT and gets p1000 from my barfine. That's no different than getting p500 for ST.

Col, I'm with you. Giving trike / jeep money tip of 1-200 is fine.

I'm pretty sure there is no diffference in a SW and a college girl and a bargirl. They all offer the same service. I can't imagine one being more deserving of the money than another (but, I've been wrong before).

Its also possible that prices are simply going up over time. On the other hand, giving a cebuana 2000 for a ST is spoilage (as the board member who gave me her number admitted). Thats twice what is given in Manila. Unless prices have changed, excluding barfine girls:

Manila: 1000 ST / 1500 LT. Outside Manila, subtract 500.

I'm not trying to cheap charlie. Routine spoilage, on the other hand, is to be avoided. My true cheap-charlie side is that I only tip for tryke.

Robb, what do you give them? Other gents? [/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply and I normally tip 1000P plus taxi if I paid the barfine and I tip 2000P plus taxi if it is a student that I did not meet in the bar. I do not feel like I am spoiling the market, I feel like they deserve that, but I have put girls out with 100P trike fare for trying to pull bullshit on me.

When the time comes that I cannot afford to pay what I feel is right, I guess that I will stop mongering. I am 45 years old and I and retired military and when I was younger in the military with wife and two kids I could not afford to monger like I do now. But now I am retired and have a great job, single and out of debt, I can monger all I like and it is up to me what I tip and who I see and I respect your same rights, but what I don't like is when guys post that 500P is normal and newbies read that and think they can do the same.

Robb

[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder; 1149696]WC.

Thanks for mentioning me in your post (I love seeing my name in lights). . But I don't recall posting anything like that. Perhaps you have me confused with someone else that posted something about that.

I still think the amount given to the girl is up to the individual, and how he feels the session went. Personally, I think I would have simply told the girl that she could take the 500p and get out, or give it back and still get out. If price was not discussed before the deed, then she needs to be happy with what she gets. 500p for 3 hours is more than most filipinos will earn for a full day's work, or possibly even a full week.

HW[/QUOTE]I agree with your statement that it is up to the individual, but you are way off the mark on local pay. We employee over 450 locals and maybe you are correct in some and that is very few make 500P a week.

So you think that a honest day's work is equal to giving up your pussy to a foreigner because he has money?

Robb

RK and Robbaff always have good advice. The only thing I can add is if you see a girl you like and don't want to pay the bar fine give her your number and have her meet you at your hotel after she gets off work. This has worked for me several times now. I'd rather give her the money than the bar. Plus it's nice being woken up in the middle of the night by a sexy sweet thing.

If anyone can verify that Maya is back at the Silver Dollar kindly let me know! She is a treasure!

[QUOTE=Allover; 1149759]I'll be in Cebu for the first time in about 6 weeks and I find the tipping discussion interesting. 500p is less than US$12 and to me seems a little light even in a third world country. Call me weak but if the FL put up a fuss after I paid 500p, I would give her more money if I enjoyed the session. But I wouldn't criticize anybody for paying that if he chooses.

Silver Dollar, Red Lips, and Viking, and Amigos on on my list of places to visit. I assume these are go go type bars where a barfine is paid. Assuming a bf of about 1500p (that seems awfully high) how much do you tip the girls for ST and LT. I often prefer ST over LT. [/QUOTE]

As much as I love good ole Robbaf, I'll go with WC on this one. WC numbers are really the low end for me but since I usually look for a good GFE, I'll tip much higher. I've had an absolutely wild one (from a bar) who danced with me at Julianas until 3am and still generated enough good lovin to give me two very enjoyable sessions and some great photographs. She was tipped well.

A week later, after I returned from Moalboal, she seemed to have some menstrual problems so offerred me her older sis. A new gal. Sis was a dead fk, left early despite promises, and was tipped nothing. I assumed this would hurt my chances with littler sister, but not so.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1149670]Actually, yes. I've had dozens of cebuanas. Exclude barfine girls (ie Vikings, etc) for a moment (will come back to them). I've been giving that amount for some time. After, most girls give me their number and ask for repeats. They offer a friend for the same amount. They desire to do it again when I'm back 6 months later (same price). If the price is too low that I'm offering, why are they returning? Further, another day following the incident mentioned, I was hit upon in the late morning by two girls in Ayala mall. They agreed to 1000 total and were happy with it (pics posted I think on the board). Later in the afternoon I was beset by two ladies in Robinson's, who were happy with the same price (500 ea).

On my last trip to Cebu, except for barfines, I gave every ST 500 and LT 1000. Except for the young lady mentioned, everyone was happy. One of my LT was a college girl met in DIA, happy with 1000 + Bo's coffee-and-muffin the next morning (gave me her number at Bo's, hopes a repeat). How is that coed any different than the girl who wanted 2000 for ST?

Back to the barfine girls. When I pay p1700, she stays LT and gets p1000 from my barfine. That's no different than getting p500 for ST.

Col, I'm with you. Giving trike / jeep money tip of 1-200 is fine.

I'm pretty sure there is no diffference in a SW and a college girl and a bargirl. They all offer the same service. I can't imagine one being more deserving of the money than another (but, I've been wrong before).

Its also possible that prices are simply going up over time. On the other hand, giving a cebuana 2000 for a ST is spoilage (as the board member who gave me her number admitted). Thats twice what is given in Manila. Unless prices have changed, excluding barfine girls:

Manila: 1000 ST / 1500 LT. Outside Manila, subtract 500.

I'm not trying to cheap charlie. Routine spoilage, on the other hand, is to be avoided. My true cheap-charlie side is that I only tip for tryke.

Robb, what do you give them? Other gents? [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Allover;1149759]Silver Dollar, Red Lips, and Viking, and Amigos on on my list of places to visit. I assume these are go go type bars where a barfine is paid. Assuming a bf of about 1500p (that seems awfully high) how much do you tip the girls for ST and LT. I often prefer ST over LT.[/QUOTE]Last time at Vikings the bf is 1700, and no tip has ever been requested from one of the girls from that strip of bars (about 5 bars, all located next door to each other). Across the street from Vikings, the bf is 3000 or so. Silver Dollar also had I think a 3000 bf.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1149731]I am with Robb on this one, and I agree that 500 is under the odds. This is just my opinion. I never lecture anyone about what they should do or not do. We have to live with the consequences of whatever we do.

I believe 1500 php is a fair amount for short term activity, and especially for students who are desperately trying to put enough cash together for fees without even factoring in their need to eat as well.

I have never paid under 1500 in any P4P activity anywhere (except for most DIA or other meetings where there is no expectation of cash exchange).

I ALWAYS offer transport fees, as I believe that anyone should not be out of pocket for going to the trouble to meet me. I know some guys probably think women should pay them for the privilege of being f*ked by them but I don't happen to feel like that. [/QUOTE]RK, thanks. Its possible I'm just paying under the going rate and have been lucky. Its also possible you are paying more than necessary (which is a gent's privilege). Paying 1500 for ST is fine, but its 500 more than the going rate for FL in malls and bars in Manila. Cebu being a metropolis, its possible that expenses there have risen and are similar to Manila now. Its possible prices are up also in Manila. I may just up my donation by an extra 500 everywhere.

When I was in Manila last, I got hit on by a girl in the mall (age 19). We did the ST thing in my room. After the first pop as we are sitting on the bed chatting, I asked if she did this often. She said yes, its how she pays for her college, her family can't afford it. She pays 3000 several times a semester to take tests, plus other expenses for her schooling. I asked flat out if she picked up 3 guys each month to pay for it. She said more often than that because she has other expenses. She also said its hard to find guys in the mall and she has to spend many afternoons there looking. It was an interesting look into the manila co-ed mind. Her friends do this too, they are afraid to show themselves in MBC, so they troll malls in the afternoon. After the (rare for me) second pop I put p1000+100 taxi on the bed. She smiled and gave me her number and left. So, how is this girl any different than the angry cebuena who wanted p2000? The angry cebuana is banging one guy foreigner for her full tuition payment? While the gal in manila is ok hammering 4-5 (and for much less)? I would maintain that if the cebuena is getting more for her service than the manila girls, anything more (the extra 1000) is spoilage. Also, given her angry response and her words, one can assume that she's used to this level of pay, while the manila gal is also used to this level of pay. If this is true, then only the gents payng the cebuana are responsible for this (its not the girl's fault she's being spoiled). A gent will pay whatever he will pay.

I thought I would also enter the interesting debate about how much we pay girls. I rarely use bar girls and I tend to stick to DIA for most of my encounters so I have just elaborated in that area only.

I always pay 1000 for short time, irrespective. I feel that 500 is a bit on the low side but then a lot of girls on DIA are not students (despite what they put on their profile) and even 500 is quite a bit of money to someone who has nothing in the first place.

I don't pay for cabs out of the 1000 as I know the vast majority of girls use jeepneys or trikes and I feel 1000 is a fair but not excessive price. RK I see you pay 1500 minimum and though I personally think that is a bit on the high side for a couple of hours of sex, I don't think you are wrong either, you pay what you feel is appropriate.

I have negotiated with girls at Ayalla and Robinsons who have invariably wanted 1000 for short time but have let themselves be bargained down to 500 which they have been willing and seemingly happy to accept. When I first started my mongering in Cebu several years ago, I met a cute DIA girl who came to my hotel. I was very new in the Philppines, had her stay for only an hour and paid her 500 (based on my rather too intimate knowledge of Thai prices). She never complained (characteristically of Pinays) but she refused to see me again when I called a few days later. Since I am not hugely overweight, smelly or too gross to look at, I can only imagine it was the amount of money that I paid her, that made her unwilling to join me for a second session (or maybe it was my enormous manhood!).

If I meet DIA girls (as I do frequently) then I always give them at least 200 just for meeting me for a coffee or ice cream, if I decide to send them back home because they are not what I expected. I have also been stung on a few occasions for the Jollibees with extended hungry families accompanying the girl but that is a whole new topic on its own. I once met a DIA girl and her two cousins and was disappointed with all three of them when we met up in person. I gave them 300 to go and get some ice cream as I made my excuses to leave and they seemed truly delighted with the gesture.

I once posted about an encounter I had with an 18 year old DIA student girl a few years ago, we met and had sex for a couple of hours. I paid her 1000 with no additional taxi fares or tips and she later texted me to say how generous I was and how she could now afford to buy her sister's baby some formula milk with the money I had given her. She was keen to meet me again and texted me dozens of time over the following week though I was not really interested.

I don't often use girls for long time as I already have a couple of steady long term gf's in Cebu and rely on them if I want a longer term companion but I would not give a girl more than 1500 for long time since I would also be paying for meals / movie / disco / drinks. Etc.

There are no hard and fast rules and I don't think we should get hung up on prices too much. The biggest problem with this issue is that the girls themselves will rarely tell you how much they want, even when pressed. Hard core hookers will have no problem quoting prices to you but most DIA girls including semi pros do not like to say and will not say what they expect to receive by way of compensation for opening their legs.

This is a cultural thing and psychologically the girls feel less of a hooker when they don't ask for money, they will often say "its up to you" when you ask how much they want. The only trouble with this is that is can and does lead to exploitation, by men who take advantage of the situation and don't pay them anything or very little (and I don't include the ones that pay 500 for short time with this label)

Anyway only another two months to go before I am back once again in Cebu and I just can't wait. I feel myself growing hard just thinking of what is waiting for me.

[QUOTE=Northdog;1149677]I understand that money gets stolen, but only take some? That is the part I don't get. The hotel? I rather not say since I don't know if its the girl or the hotel, hope you'll understand that....[/QUOTE]I do understand it very well. When I was teenager I sometimes nicked a 100 or two from my fathers wallet for partymoney, but never more than 15. 20 % of what was in it. If I have taken everything he would noticed it immidiately, all hell would have broke loose and no party for me. Guess you would have done the same if all your cash was gone. So she? Probably thougth you wouldn't notice only taking some.

[QUOTE=Allover;1149759]I'll be in Cebu for the first time in about 6 weeks and I find the tipping discussion interesting. 500p is less than US$12 and to me seems a little light even in a third world country. Call me weak but if the FL put up a fuss after I paid 500p, I would give her more money if I enjoyed the session. But I wouldn't criticize anybody for paying that if he chooses.[/QUOTE]When I first arrived on the scene in phils some years ago, I quickly hit on a few FL in manila and was happily forking over $50 for a ST. I met up with a board member at LA Cafe one evening, and he said,"Whata 'ya nuts? The girls will ST for 1/4 that price!" At that time he was right. I had no idea. In my young mind, $50 was great. In my young mind. If everyone starts paying $50, then the average price rises quickly, forcing others to do it.

Allover, to your numbers. $12 is light. So $20 is better. I'm ok with that. Assume that the girls are willing to work for $2, and you are just unaware of it. Then $20 spoils. So does $12. I think what we have in the examples below with myself and RK and others is just that. I'm easily getting p500 (they ask to return, and offer friends). RK is paying 1500. The angry cebuana getting 2000 is clearly spoiled.

Also I'm noticing something else. I just didn't catch it before if it was discussed. While I view a girl as a girl, some of the gents see a need to pay different girls a different amount. A SW deserves less than a college girl? How is a cebuana college girl worth 1500/2000 for ST, while the AC bargirl will get p750 for LT? I'm paying for her to bring the fun, then leave. I don't care about her personal life (usually). Thoughts?

[QUOTE=Robbaf; 1149796]Thanks for the reply and I normally tip 1000P plus taxi if I paid the barfine and I tip 2000P plus taxi if it is a student that I did not meet in the bar. I do not feel like I am spoiling the market, I feel like they deserve that, but I have put girls out with 100P trike fare for trying to pull bullshit on me.

When the time comes that I cannot afford to pay what I feel is right, I guess that I will stop mongering. I am 45 years old and I and retired military and when I was younger in the military with wife and two kids I could not afford to monger like I do now. But now I am retired and have a great job, single and out of debt, I can monger all I like and it is up to me what I tip and who I see and I respect your same rights, but what I don't like is when guys post that 500P is normal and newbies read that and think they can do the same.

Robb[/QUOTE]We'll have to agree to disagree. An example. Two guys are on the same streetcorner selling identical hammers. Overhead is the same. One guy sells for p500, the other for p1500. Anyone buying the p1500 hammer is spoiling the market, encouraging the lower-priced seller to raise his prices. Hopefully the lower-priced seller puts the higher-priced seller out of business or to lower his price. Unfortunately, the dating site girls don't advertise on the street.

Not all hammers look alike.

Some hammers are very stylish and used to laying in the hands of Korean four-four-fours. Others considers themselves the hammers of hammers, needing a lot of motivation to work. And some do not know their true value at all and will work those nails almost for free.

This debate have influenced me. I will try to pay less in the future. My heart is to soft and I like to be liked. In addition I am always strapped for time and I handle rejection bad. I just HAVE to have whatever girl I want, in my bedroom within 1 hour. But maybe I can have this in 90% of the cases, even if I do not pay 1500 or 2000. Maybe it is not necessary to overpay to get that responsiveness from girls. The future will tell if a modified pricing strategy will leave me with last years leftovers.

So I will do as the gentleman that stated that 1000 PHP is a benchmark to start from.

If she performs 50, she gets 1000 * 0, 5 = 500 PHP.

If she on the other hand, breaks my expectations by +50, she will get 1500.

Maybe we cracked this pricing mystery?

"Taxi Money" = 1000 * performance coefficient

Spain tomorrow and the SEA in 3 weeks again. Can't wait.

Barba

[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1149936]When I first arrived on the scene in phils some years ago, I quickly hit on a few FL in manila and was happily forking over $50 for a ST. I met up with a board member at LA Cafe one evening, and he said,"Whata 'ya nuts? The girls will ST for 1/4 that price!" At that time he was right. I had no idea. In my young mind, $50 was great. In my young mind. If everyone starts paying $50, then the average price rises quickly, forcing others to do it.

Allover, to your numbers. $12 is light. So $20 is better. I'm ok with that. Assume that the girls are willing to work for $2, and you are just unaware of it. Then $20 spoils. So does $12. I think what we have in the examples below with myself and RK and others is just that. I'm easily getting p500 (they ask to return, and offer friends). RK is paying 1500. The angry cebuana getting 2000 is clearly spoiled.

Also I'm noticing something else. I just didn't catch it before if it was discussed. While I view a girl as a girl, some of the gents see a need to pay different girls a different amount. A SW deserves less than a college girl? How is a cebuana college girl worth 1500/2000 for ST, while the AC bargirl will get p750 for LT? I'm paying for her to bring the fun, then leave. I don't care about her personal life (usually). Thoughts? [/QUOTE]I understand what you are saying about a girl is a girl, but IMO if you pick up a SW that is on drugs and fucking 10 guys a day, to me that is different then a college that may only fuck you.

Robb

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1149942]We'll have to agree to disagree. An example. Two guys are on the same streetcorner selling identical hammers. Overhead is the same. One guy sells for p500, the other for p1500. Anyone buying the p1500 hammer is spoiling the market, encouraging the lower-priced seller to raise his prices. Hopefully the lower-priced seller puts the higher-priced seller out of business or to lower his price. Unfortunately, the dating site girls don't advertise on the street.[/QUOTE]Haha I agree to disagree, but using hammers for pussy does not fit this discussion.

Robb

I understand what you are saying about a girl is a girl, but IMO if you pick up a SW that is on drugs and fucking 10 guys a day, to me that is different then a college that may only fuck you.

To do so in expectation of a certain price for the job is wage labour, all the augment is about the cost, not the reality of a buyer and a seller for sex between consenting adults

[QUOTE=Frode;1149932]I do understand it very well. When I was teenager I sometimes nicked a 100 or two from my fathers wallet for partymoney, but never more than 15. 20 % of what was in it. If I have taken everything he would noticed it immidiately, all hell would have broke loose and no party for me. Guess you would have done the same if all your cash was gone. So she? Probably thougth you wouldn't notice only taking some.[/QUOTE]I never looked at it that way. Guess your right, no matter who is was. But anyways, after spending 3 weeks there I think the best advice I got before going was this: just leave you brain at home, cause most things arnt going to make sence!

Wich looking at it now was true, from how I'm used to doing things and all. But I loved the place so I'm eager to get back and have some red horse again!

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1149942]We'll have to agree to disagree. An example. Two guys are on the same streetcorner selling identical hammers. Overhead is the same. One guy sells for p500, the other for p1500. Anyone buying the p1500 hammer is spoiling the market, encouraging the lower-priced seller to raise his prices. Hopefully the lower-priced seller puts the higher-priced seller out of business or to lower his price. Unfortunately, the dating site girls don't advertise on the street.[/QUOTE]If you want quality, other then just masturbating in a woman's vagina, just treat the lady right and show her the princess that she is, I ve been living in cebu for the past few months, traveled to more then 40 countries, a big piece of my heart is in the Phils. The people, the country is just amazing. If you want shabu pussy for 500 pesos it s available anywhere. You want a gf, just pay the price and stop whining. I am the one that brings the prices up and always pay 3k. Sometimes more for a virgin ass. DIA selection is ok, Gate number 3 is a good line up more then 80 girls at the time, Amigos is happening for me, hooked up with Jana the ladyboy make up artiist. He knows all the girls and been there for over a year. Mongering? Come on guys. What is it to you to spend an extra 20 USD. Treat them right. You will get so much in return. Meet the family. Fuck the cousins. Buy a washing machine. A water heater. The whole province will talk about you. Jackson I love you man, just weed out the cheap charlies.

WC is right. It could be hammers, rice or fish. Simply, supply and demand. Both a pro and a college girl in Colon are 500p ST. Some are a much better experience than a Barfined Bargirl@

1700p and up.

You just have to make more effort than sitting on a barstool. Plus, loose your illusion some college girl is only fucking you or us! (overweight middle aged / old white guys). LOL.

[QUOTE=Col Law; 1149994]I understand what you are saying about a girl is a girl, but IMO if you pick up a SW that is on drugs and fucking 10 guys a day, to me that is different then a college that may only fuck you.

To do so in expectation of a certain price for the job is wage labour, all the augment is about the cost, not the reality of a buyer and a seller for sex between consenting adults[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1149881]Last time at Vikings the bf is 1700, and no tip has ever been requested from one of the girls from that strip of bars (about 5 bars, all located next door to each other). Across the street from Vikings, the bf is 3000 or so. Silver Dollar also had I think a 3000 bf.[/QUOTE]I have heard that the Viking Group of bars has increased the barfine to 1800P, which IMHO is still the lowest all-in price for some of the best looking girls on Mango but pre-payment turns alot of the girls into runners.

The old Silver Dollar always had a barfine of 750P and up to you to work out a deal with the girl on price ST or LT and most of the girls were happy with 1500P +tip LT not sure if the new Silver Dollar has adopted the more expensive Lone Star all-in barfine of 2800P LT.

Anyone know if the new Silver Dollar adds 10p "Mayors Tax" onto the bill for every drink order like Lone Star? Which is the most in-your-face way of saying that Graham refuses to pay the kickbacks directly, and that we, the mongering public shall do our share and contribute for him. Now if only I can figure out a way to get a "Major Major contributor to the Mayor's re-election campaign" card out of the deal to keep CITOM from giving me 50P jaywalking tickets I will be all set.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1150037]I have heard that the Viking Group of bars has increased the barfine to 1800P, which IMHO is still the lowest all-in price for some of the best looking girls on Mango but pre-payment turns alot of the girls into runners.

The old Silver Dollar always had a barfine of 750P and up to you to work out a deal with the girl on price ST or LT and most of the girls were happy with 1500P +tip LT not sure if the new Silver Dollar has adopted the more expensive Lone Star all-in barfine of 2800P LT.

Anyone know if the new Silver Dollar adds 10p "Mayors Tax" onto the bill for every drink order like Lone Star? Which is the most in-your-face way of saying that Graham refuses to pay the kickbacks directly, and that we, the mongering public shall do our share and contribute for him. Now if only I can figure out a way to get a "Major Major contributor to the Mayor's re-election campaign" card out of the deal to keep CITOM from giving me 50P jaywalking tickets I will be all set. [/QUOTE]Ye it does, had a drink in there yesterday and was asked for the extra 10pso

[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1149936]When I first arrived on the scene in phils some years ago, I quickly hit on a few FL in manila and was happily forking over $50 for a ST. I met up with a board member at LA Cafe one evening, and he said,"Whata 'ya nuts? The girls will ST for 1/4 that price!" At that time he was right. I had no idea. In my young mind, $50 was great. In my young mind. If everyone starts paying $50, then the average price rises quickly, forcing others to do it. . . . . . . . . . . . .

Also I'm noticing something else. I just didn't catch it before if it was discussed. While I view a girl as a girl, some of the gents see a need to pay different girls a different amount. A SW deserves less than a college girl? How is a cebuana college girl worth 1500/2000 for ST, while the AC bargirl will get p750 for LT? I'm paying for her to bring the fun, then leave. I don't care about her personal life (usually). Thoughts? [/QUOTE]This is a great, civilized discussion. I think all of us are deferring to another guy's judgement and accepting it for what it is, and that's great.

WC. I truly can see where you are coming from and your analysis and justification for how much you pay etc is very well set-out and I understand your rationale.

Maybe 1500php is on the high side? But I must add that I am VERY choosy about who I spend time with and at the end of the day it makes me feel that I have not just taken advantage of the girl. More importantly, I pay 1500 php because I can. I can also stress that I virtually never go over 1500php.

Recently in Cafe Havana in Manila a girl joined me at my table and told me she wanted 3000 php ST. I just shrugged and said that 1500 is my limit so maybe she should just go back to her girlfriends because I will not pay that much. After maybe 5 minutes of sitting there silently she said "OK. 1500 is fine".

I guess this story supports your rationale WC.

I also think that at the end of the day, we can all pay whatever we want without the market being too disturbed. But I also think that an ESSENTIAL factor is that you must discuss a "price" before you head off to Stage 2.

[QUOTE=Robbaf; 1149797]I agree with your statement that it is up to the individual, but you are way off the mark on local pay. We employee over 450 locals and maybe you are correct in some and that is very few make 500P a week.

So you think that a honest day's work is equal to giving up your pussy to a foreigner because he has money?

Robb[/QUOTE]I may not know what the current income levels are for filipinos, that is true. But what an individual does to earn a living is up to them. If a girl chooses to earn "easy money" by spreading her legs rather than working a normal job, that is her choice. Why should she be paid more to give up her pussy to foreigners than another gets paid to provide any other kind of service?

Let's face it, a big reason many guys monger in the Philippines is because it is cheaper than doing so in other countries. As the price demanded by the girls keeps going up, mongers will begin looking in other places for the cheap pussy. 25 years ago in Korea, a ST was $10 US and LT was $20 US or less. But bar fines are generally $200 to $300 US now. Because of this, many guys pass on the Korean pussy, save their money, and go to the Philippines or Thailand for much more pussy in a week at the same amount they would spend for one night in Korea.

On the discussion of why the girl needs the money, I don't care! Any of them can tell you that they need to pay their school fees. But are you certain, without a doubt, that they are telling you the truth. We all know that many of these girls are experts at pulling scams on guys to get more money.

Again I say pay what you feel is right for you to pay. If anybody else feels that it is low or high, who cares?

[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1149936]The angry cebuana getting 2000 is clearly spoiled.

Also I'm noticing something else. I just didn't catch it before if it was discussed. While I view a girl as a girl, some of the gents see a need to pay different girls a different amount. A SW deserves less than a college girl? How is a cebuana college girl worth 1500/2000 for ST, while the AC bargirl will get p750 for LT? I'm paying for her to bring the fun, then leave. I don't care about her personal life (usually). Thoughts? [/QUOTE]First off you keep comparing Cebuanas to their counterparts in Manila or AC. They have a different mindset and language among other things. You don't give enough credit to your coed who merely sized you up and charged accordingly. You were probably staying at the Parklane or similar. It is a fact that the going rate for foreigners is somewhere between 1000 and 2000. If you don't believe me, try going to one of the pick up discos and see how far you get.

Another point not touched on is beauty, real or perceived. Sure you can get away with offering average looking Cebuanas a nominal fee but more attractive ones will command a premium.

[QUOTE=Wectcoast1]Unfortunately, the dating site girls don't advertise on the street.[/QUOTE]Yes just as the real beauties don't mess with the internet!

Westcoast1 has a point. Pussy isn't intellectual. He's paying the market rate for a pussy to poke. From his point of view he could care less if the pussy can write a doctoral dissertation on quantum physics. The mechanics are the same. The end result is the same. Why pay more than the going rate? Employers don't pay employees according to their individual financial obligations. The really is no justification for paying a college girl more for doing the same job that a girl fresh off a provincial pig farm can do just as well. There is no guarantee that a college girl services less clients than her less educated counterpart. In fact, college girls usually see a lot more cock because of their greater appetite for consumer goods and high end electronics. If Westcoast1 gets pussy for 500 pesos and the girls happily repeat and give referrals does that make him a bad guy? At the end of the day all mongers are enticing these girls to sell pussy instead of finding some other less sordid means of earning a living. Paying inflated prices to soothe one's conscience hardly makes one more moral than the monger paying the market rate even though it might give a false sense of righteousness.

If one truly feels rooting the girls for a bargain is wrong then he should establish a trust along the lines of The Virgin Filipina College Fund. This would eliminate the need for the girls spreading their legs for foreign lechers altogether giving donors a stalwart moral soap box from which to crow at flesh mongers. Otherwise it's downright hypocrisy to chastise your fellow swine while swilling from the same trough.

In regards to how much to leave them with, it's always going to be a debate. To say that all the women are the same wherever you meet them to me is a crock. Also, you probably should consider the situation. Some women are definitely looking for some support and some women are looking for fun. You have to know who you are dealing with, and that usually goes with common sense.

I see danger for the people who offer very little support for said services, but that is up to them. I can't see myself offering up 500 pesos for 3 hours of whatever, but that's me. At the minimum for me would probably be 800 pesos but more likely 1000 pesos. You have to live with yourself after wards. You are in another country and don't have the same protections and are somewhat easy to pick out. Sure you can probably get away with it and feel like you know what's up. I can't possibly do that. I don't want to be looking behind me constantly worrying about some type of retaliation.

Gents, thanks for the discussion.

[QUOTE=Barba; 1149971]Not all hammers look alike.

Some hammers are very stylish and used to laying in the hands of Korean four-four-fours. Others considers themselves the hammers of hammers, needing a lot of motivation to work. [/QUOTE]The girl to stay away from?

[QUOTE=Barba;1149971]And some do not know their true value at all and will work those nails almost for free.[/QUOTE]The girl to run to.

[QUOTE=Barba;1149971]This debate have influenced me. I will try to pay less in the future. My heart is to soft and I like to be liked. In addition I am always strapped for time and I handle rejection bad. I just HAVE to have whatever girl I want, in my bedroom within 1 hour.[/QUOTE]Yes. Your unique situational needs may require a higher price. Its not fair to compare Barba's need with mine. I have plenty of time to look for playmates. I'm not as choosy. The '9'-stunner will not get more from me than the '7'-so-so girl because of her looks (although, one of them might get more later if her service is above-par).

[QUOTE=Barba; 1149971]But maybe I can have this in 90% of the cases, even if I do not pay 1500 or 2000. Maybe it is not necessary to overpay to get that responsiveness from girls. The future will tell if a modified pricing strategy will leave me with last years leftovers.

So I will do as the gentleman that stated that 1000 PHP is a benchmark to start from. [/QUOTE]The debate has influenced me also. Maybe I'm paying too little. Maybe inflation of foods and fuel drive up the ladies overhead. Maybe 1000 is a good starting point.

[QUOTE=Robbaf; 1149980]I understand what you are saying about a girl is a girl, but IMO if you pick up a SW that is on drugs and fucking 10 guys a day, to me that is different then a college that may only fuck you.

Robb[/QUOTE]Apology for mentioning SW before. I only mentioned them to compare with bargirls and college girls and hammers to make the point that they are similar in product nature.

I've never taken any of the girls from the Junquera streets (although I got from outside Robinsons). Several of you have referred to these girls that are being rented and banging a lot of guys. While this is not my cup of tea usually, I think there might be a perception that those are the ones willing to take the 500. Let me dispel that. My girls are DIA contacts, mall rats, barfines from Vikings area, or Sunflower pickups. Vikings-area girls are getting 1000 from the bar for LT. Thats roughly the same as 500 for ST. Aside from barfines, all the rest are happy (except the previously mentioned angry college kid) with 500 ST / 1000 LT. Many are DIA college girls. 1000+100jeep in the morning gets a txt later in the day asking for a repeat, or offering a friends. Nobody rolls their eyes or asks more.

Robb, you mentioned about the SW / college kid thing. We just disagree. Your assumption is that the college girl isn't getting banged a lot like the SW. Maybe very rarely even. Its possible. I have an insight about this, and I will try to PM several of you about this. More likely, she has a real local bf that she is into (she won't mention it to you, even though you are honest and she knows you take other girls for similar) and she is banging him most days (and, true to form, the bf is humping other girls behind her back). She may also have several sugardaddies such as yourself who she will bang in the week prior to her 'exam fee'. By golly, if all 4-5 of you sugardaddies give her the 2500 or 3000 she's asking for, she's made 10-15, 000. She will pay the 3000 exam fee, and her months rent + expenses, take her bf out for drinks, and hand him 2000 because she's "in lab to him". To all of her sugardaddies she will appear to be the sweet co-ed who "don't do this much". Is she that shy college kid who don't do this much? Or does she have multiple sugardaddies-and-bf, where she's getting jiz 20 times a month? Unless you have her followed, you and I have no clue. She is little different than the SW, except she is displaying mental acuity in class.

[QUOTE=Mattrick;1150083]First off you keep comparing Cebuanas to their counterparts in Manila or AC. They have a different mindset and language among other things.[/QUOTE]And different overhead. Its more expensive to live in Manila than AC or Cebu. Say 800 to a mallgirl in Manila and get laughed at. Say 1000 and she's your new gf. Subtract 500 from that in Cebu. The comparison is legit.

[QUOTE=Mattrick;1150083]You don't give enough credit to your coed, You were probably staying at the Parklane or similar.[/QUOTE]Diplomat Hotel in Fuente, which she knew.

[QUOTE=Mattrick;1150083]It is a fact that the going rate for foreigners is somewhere between 1000 and 2000. If you don't believe me, try going to one of the pick up discos and see how far you get.[/QUOTE]Julianas and Mango bars? Probably you are right. 1500-2000 is going to be asked or expected. All the more reason not to take from there. A board member PM'd recently that he'd taken from Sunflower an overnighter, gave her p1500 and she was fine.

[QUOTE=Mattrick; 1150083]Another point not touched on is beauty, real or perceived. Sure you can get away with offering average looking Cebuanas a nominal fee but more attractive ones will command a premium.

Yes just as the real beauties don't mess with the internet! [/QUOTE]Usually. In a recent post I mentioned a DIA student who was glad to have 1000 for an overnighter."Salamat po," and a request for a repeat. A looker. That may be luck, or desperation.

[QUOTE=Destinla;1150001]Come on guys. What is it to you to spend an extra 20 USD. Treat them right.[/QUOTE]Doing that a lot, creates spoilage. The girls will raise their prices. Treat her right, pay her taxi, or buy her a meal.

[QUOTE=Destinla;1150001]You will get so much in return. Meet the family. Fuck the cousins. Buy a washing machine. A water heater. The whole province will talk about you.[/QUOTE]That's fine for gents living in town. The board is for visitors, to. Especially regular contributors. Post a pic for us, my lurking friend. A field report, too, will make you believable.

[QUOTE=Destinla;1150001]Jackson I love you man, just weed out the cheap charlies.[/QUOTE]Hey Cheapy, he wants to silence you. I think the term is authoritarian.

[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder; 1150079]I may not know what the current income levels are for filipinos, that is true. But what an individual does to earn a living is up to them. If a girl chooses to earn "easy money" by spreading her legs rather than working a normal job, that is her choice. Why should she be paid more to give up her pussy to foreigners than another gets paid to provide any other kind of service?

Let's face it, a big reason many guys monger in the Philippines is because it is cheaper than doing so in other countries. As the price demanded by the girls keeps going up, mongers will begin looking in other places for the cheap pussy. 25 years ago in Korea, a ST was $10 US and LT was $20 US or less. But bar fines are generally $200 to $300 US now. Because of this, many guys pass on the Korean pussy, save their money, and go to the Philippines or Thailand for much more pussy in a week at the same amount they would spend for one night in Korea.

On the discussion of why the girl needs the money, I don't care! Any of them can tell you that they need to pay their school fees. But are you certain, without a doubt, that they are telling you the truth. We all know that many of these girls are experts at pulling scams on guys to get more money.

Again I say pay what you feel is right for you to pay. If anybody else feels that it is low or high, who cares? [/QUOTE]Sorry I don't agree with you on the "choice". Thanks to over population most Filipinos who were born into a poor family have very little chance in life. Three years ago I hired 12 Filipinos and in the 100 who applied I choose a 57 year old man and he is one of my top workers and he when talks about being given a chance he cries because he is so happy.

But then again, thanks to over population there is an endless line of girls turning 18 everyday and they do not know that when they post on DIA (example) that the guy will be a one meeting visit with a thanks for the pussy and here is 200P for a taxi, only to find out the next day he was a "hit and run" and not looking for a girlfriend.

I bet if guys posted their true stories of internet hook ups we would be reading very different stories.

I have a friend who lives in AC and scores tons of free (?) pussy and he told me that he goes crazy with the drama. He get up to 100 text a day (from different girls) and I have been with him when we had to take a side street due to a girl is approaching us and he does not want the drama. I would hate to live like that.

Robb

[QUOTE=Robbaf; 1150340]I have a friend who lives in AC and scores tons of free (?) pussy and he told me that he goes crazy with the drama. He get up to 100 text a day (from different girls) and I have been with him when we had to take a side street due to a girl is approaching us and he does not want the drama. I would hate to live like that.

Robb[/QUOTE]So you are saying that you never run into any of the girls that you have banged and sent out the door? How do you handle it if the same situation occurs? If you frequent the same areas over and over, you are bound to run into the girls that have gone to your hotel with you. Hell, I ran into girls that I had nothing to do with before, but they knew me because I had bar fined their friend. It was nothing to them to call out to me while I was walking down the market street with my kids. And they had their bf for the day on their arm also. I don't believe this kind of situation is unique to freebies.

I'm not trying to argue that anyone is wrong for what they pay, or if they get freebies. I just feel it is up to the individual to give the girl what he feels is fair. If the girls doesn't like it, she won't go with him again. She might even convince all of her friends to avoid the guys she feels are "cheap Charlies." On the other hand, a guy that pays a high price to a girl is seen as spoiling the market, because everyone fears he will drive up prices.

I guess the bottom line is that it is always best to discuss the expected price with the girl before taking her to the room. If she quotes an amount that you feel is too high, either offer a lower amount or go find a different girl that is willing to accept what you are willing to pay.

Prices will go up as the girls' expenses go up. I'm sure that mongers that have been having fun in paradise since the 70's would tell us how cheap things were back then. I can tell you that prices in Korea changed drastically since my first time in country in the late 80's. The ST rate was $10 and LT was $20 back then. These days foreigners have a hard time getting anything from the Korean girls, but it is available in some areas. Just not as easy to find as it used to be. Some get lucky and find ST for $60, while others pay $300. Before moving to sex prison (USA) I basically gave up on mongering in Korea because of the expense. But some guys will still pay those prices for it. And because of that, the girls will continue to charge those rates. Hopefully this won't happen in the Philippines. Based on the rates in Korea (or here in sex prison) I don't feel that P1000 (roughly $25) is too much to pay for a short time. But I won't try to force someone else to pay the same as I'm willing to pay either.

HW

[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1150107]Westcoast1 has a point. Pussy isn't intellectual. He's paying the market rate for a pussy to poke. From his point of view he could care less if the pussy can write a doctoral dissertation on quantum physics. The mechanics are the same. The end result is the same. Why pay more than the going rate? Employers don't pay employees according to their individual financial obligations. The really is no justification for .[/QUOTE]I also happen to agree with this point as I always try to get the market rate (or even the local rate) if possible. Why pay more than I should when I could use the extra cash for other things.

BTW: if you do manage to find one who could understand quantum physics, let alone write about it, please introduce me as I always wanted to ask if I'm getting the BJ of my life, is that the meaning of being swallowed by a black hole.

Shark

Does any one have problems ever accessing this site from Cebu a friend, could not access it even when I copied and pasted? The address?

[QUOTE=Col Law;1150380]Does any one have problems ever accessing this site from Cebu a friend, could not access it even when I copied and pasted? The address?[/QUOTE]Certain hotels and wifi hotspots around the Philippines block adult content from being accessed. If your friend can surf the internet but is unable to open ISG or other adult websites most likely the location is blocking the website from being viewed and your friend should be able to log on by changing locations.

[QUOTE=Robbaf; 1149797]So you think that a honest day's work is equal to giving up your pussy to a foreigner because he has money?

Robb[/QUOTE]I think differently than that. I know there are tens of thousands of them in cebu with no work. None. If an honest day's wage (which she can't get because of the job shortage) is in the 500-peso range, then yes, many girls are willing to spend a few hours to it. And so are her friends. Your argument suggests that they would just skip the hooking and go get a regular job. That's not an option.

Think of the angry college girl's situation from the viewpoint of a college girl in the States. Assume she could pay her schooling monthly, and the monthly fee is $2000 (total, $15-20K / year). That's reasonable. Assume she wants to earn the money from gentleman. She'd have to work 10 (maybe 20) times this month to earn it. Yet, giving the cebuana p2000 to pay her entire tuition fee would represent an inequity somewhere? Even the college girl in Manila that I mentioned previously was working 3+ times / month for it.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1150389]Yet, giving the cebuana p2000 to pay her entire tuition fee would represent an inequity somewhere? Even the college girl in Manila that I mentioned previously was working 3+ times / month for it.[/QUOTE]Is this an accurate price quote of what a college education costs the average student in the Philippinnes? 24K pesos a year? Just curious, in the USA, the myth of the girl stripping her way through college is worn past belief.

Most of the girls on DIA know very well what they're getting themselves into and only the most experienced mongers will be able to root them for 200 pesos taxi fare. They will usually have a scheme in place to fleece the foreigner ranging from feeding the entire clan to hiring "uncle's" taxi at an exhorbitant rate. They are quite cunning and not naive as some may think. They are usually referred to DIA by friends with ample experience playing the game. There are way more little aspiring scammers on the site than innocent girls looking for love. If they encounter some sly monger who gives them a sore pussy and 50 pesos jeepney fare that hardly merits sympathy.

It's true that there are some girls that don't expect anything and are truly physically attracted to the relatively younger than average mongers but they're few and far between. I think the more ethical mongers avoid rooting these girls altogether unless they want a long term girlfriend.

[QUOTE=Expat75;1150396]Is this an accurate price quote of what a college education costs the average student in the Philippinnes? 24K pesos a year? Just curious, in the USA, the myth of the girl stripping her way through college is worn past belief.[/QUOTE]Vary considerably according to the prestige or lack thereof of the college and the course.

Fees start at say 20, 000 P per year for a course such as HRM (Hotel and Restaurant management) at a provincial uni. 40, 000 up to say 100, 000 P year for nursing (one of the most expensive subjects). Added to this is the costs of exams and textbooks, practicals etc which might add say 5, 000- 10, 000P per year.

Ironically because of the fees nursing tends to attract mostly girls from wealthy families or one with an overseas worker in the family. Often these better off girls are not really suited to nursing and taking care of people but have just been pressured by the family to do it as they know it's a respectable profession with an opportunity to work overseas if she can qualify (many don't).

Had a great one to one with her. All holes were open.

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[QUOTE=Paulr1950;1150059]Ye it does, had a drink in there yesterday and was asked for the extra 10pso[/QUOTE]It was just one charge on your bill per night not per drink. That was 3 months ago maybe its changed.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1149881]Last time at Vikings the bf is 1700, and no tip has ever been requested from one of the girls from that strip of bars (about 5 bars, all located next door to each other). Across the street from Vikings, the bf is 3000 or so. Silver Dollar also had I think a 3000 bf.[/QUOTE]Any reason why silver dollar is more expensive?

For me SD is the same as the other bars only thing that it opens earlier.

[QUOTE=Osuul; 1150902]Any reason why silver dollar is more expensive?

For me SD is the same as the other bars only thing that it opens earlier. [/QUOTE]I could be wrong about the SD barfine. I went in the place only once, in 2010. No aircon (swamp cooler blowing humid air. In the tropics). Dark, smoky, hard to see. Two girls sound asleep at one table. Two girls at another table txting away aimlessly. Two girls dancing on top of the bar on / off. One chatted me up, and said the barfine was p3000. I went there because I saw a commercial on the hotel TV that said your first drink was free. When I was ready to leave the girl told me to pay the bill for the san mig. I told her it was supposed to be free, from the commercial. She called the bartender over, they spoke, and he said the second drink would be free, after I paid for the first drink. He said the commercial incorrectly told of the promotion. I paid and got out and went to Vikings.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1150924]I could be wrong about the SD barfine. I went in the place only once, in 2010. No aircon (swamp cooler blowing humid air. In the tropics). Dark, smoky, hard to see. Two girls sound asleep at one table. Two girls at another table txting away aimlessly. Two girls dancing on top of the bar on / off. One chatted me up, and said the barfine was p3000. I went there because I saw a commercial on the hotel TV that said your first drink was free. When I was ready to leave the girl told me to pay the bill for the san mig. I told her it was supposed to be free, from the commercial. She called the bartender over, they spoke, and he said the second drink would be free, after I paid for the first drink. He said the commercial incorrectly told of the promotion. I paid and got out and went to Vikings.[/QUOTE]Yes, its 3000, I took 2 girls from there. Nothing to remember but it was my first time there so I went to the bar I knew from reports. As you mentionno AC. I just read the weather report. How you cope with the heat. When I was there in Feb. I was alread sweating, now I would be soaking wet.

[QUOTE=Osuul;1150958]Yes, its 3000, I took 2 girls from there. Nothing to remember but it was my first time there so I went to the bar I knew from reports. As you mentionno AC. I just read the weather report. How you cope with the heat. When I was there in Feb. I was alread sweating, now I would be soaking wet.[/QUOTE]You and WC are both talking about the time after they had a minor fire and their air / cons failed for the next week or so.

I am told that SD is now under new management (one of the new owners is Graham from Lone Star). I expect service to kick up very soon and for SD to again become one of the better places for fun in Cebu.

[quote=red kilt; 1151095]you and wc are both talking about the time after they had a minor fire and their air / cons failed for the next week or so.

i am told that sd is now under new management (one of the new owners is graham from lone star). i expect service to kick up very soon and for sd to again become one of the better places for fun in cebu. [/quote]yes, there had been a fire. large sheets of plastic were draped on walls. there was the smell of burnt whatever. interestingly, even though evap coolers and heavy-duty fans were blowing air like crazy, there was also a ton of cig smoke in the air, and only one person smoking in the place (admittedly he was smoking them so fast like he was trying to make himself sick on them). jokingly in my head i thought maybe the place was still on fire in the back. it was so hot in there i thought i would pass out. i had to go outside after one beer into the crappy, hot, polluted cebu air to clear my head (hahaha).

[QUOTE=Osuul;1150958]Yes, its 3000, I took 2 girls from there. Nothing to remember but it was my first time there so I went to the bar I knew from reports. As you mentionno AC. I just read the weather report. How you cope with the heat. When I was there in Feb. I was alread sweating, now I would be soaking wet.[/QUOTE]I was there just over a month ago and I paid 1750 peso. Paid 750 to the bar and in 1000 to the girl in the morning. I even sugested to the girl at night (after one pop) that she could leave, but she wanted to stay. Though I might just put that in there after reading about the girls that make up a story and leaves.

[QUOTE=Northdog;1151540]I was there just over a month ago and I paid 1750 peso. Paid 750 to the bar and in 1000 to the girl in the morning.[/QUOTE]Yup the barfine has always been 750 plus whatever you negotiate with the girl and I believe Lonestar is about the same. Maybe some of you guys can manage to get the tip down to 500 ! :o

[QUOTE=Mattrick;1151754]Yup the barfine has always been 750 plus whatever you negotiate with the girl and I believe Lonestar is about the same.[/QUOTE]No the Lone Star EWR is higher than that 2700 if I recall correctly from last year

[QUOTE=Dark Vader;1151909]No the Lone Star EWR is higher than that 2700 if I recall correctly from last year[/QUOTE]No, as of last month anyways, at Lonestar it is 750 to the bar then whatever you negotiate to the girl. If you paid 2700 then the girl probably got 2000, you just paid it all up front.

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[quote=cuchulain; 1147104]there is a disco 2 blocks over and tons of lady boys walking by in front of the sogo hotel, i also saw about 50 prosti. 40 being ****. 50 more ladyboys all in one night, while sitting on the step for about 90 mins talking to the security guard.

in 90 mins you saw 50 prosti girls heading for the down town disco eh? thats about 1 girl in less than every 2 mins passed by you. and 40 of them were ****. and this, on your second trip to the philippines too, i see.

fifty more ladyboys passed by in the same time frame, ie, approx 100 people passed you in 90mins, more than one a minute, and you were able to competently decide they were a bunch of prostitutes and ladbyboys. well done.

for those readers who have not been outside sogo, that's one hell of a lot of traffic walking along that part of town, at night. never seen that kind of action there, unless poster got them bused in, lol.

how many beers had you drunk before you witnessed these amazing sightings?

i have been to those downtown disco's as you call them, out of curiosity, and i tell you, very few if any prostitute girls go to them. they are poor boy meets poor girl disco's, and from my observations, better for foreigners to keep away from them, otherwise you might tangle with a drunk filipino guy.

i say, if 50 girls, maybe 2/3 are prostitutes, not 40 as reported. after two trips to phils you can tell who and who is not a prostitute, who and who is not a ladyboy, in a split second, as they walk by, not bad.

the fact is, they are poor girls and guys who can't afford to go to other more refined disco's, not prostitutes and not ladyboys. small number might be prostitutes and ladyboys, but nowhere near the figs you quote.

****, well they would be young yes, but they are not going to the disco to sell themselves, so no problem there.

just another example of colourful language. guys from afar, iceland wherever, don't believe all you read, lol.

sorry, off again, just happened to spot that one on easter eve. chances are i will get tired of picking you guys up on your misleading reports. i don't think it will matter too much though, cause such reports are at least amusing to more experienced persons. but misleading for others, that's the problem.

it seems new arrivals like the current poster, and tom before, get all excited, thus finding it difficult to report things as they really are.

i will not get any medals for pulling you misleading guys in line, so goodbye. will read your colourful posts with amusement, but don't think its worth my time to respond to them anymore.

readers of this forum, i suggest you stick to the senior guys who did not fly in yesterday, post regular, reliable, factual reports. their names escape me for the moment, but soon as i see them on the page i recognise their pen names and read their informative and reliable stuff.

the other posters, and their amazing sightings, are for your amusement only. remember that.

enough. [/quote]cuchulain is absolutely right in his assessment of the downtown (colon st.) area. the discos there are probably 95 percent local and there are definitely 14 and 15yo girls prostituting themselves there. i can't imagine why you or anybody else would dispute this. you mentioned that you've ventured there only for curiosity's sake, which suggests you really don't know the downtown scene very well. neither cuchulain nor i are making this stuff up, what would we gain from doing that?

[QUOTE=Cyber Whip;1151910]No, as of last month anyways, at Lonestar it is 750 to the bar then whatever you negotiate to the girl. If you paid 2700 then the girl probably got 2000, you just paid it all up front.[/QUOTE]Cyber is correct.

If either of the mamasans don't know you then they will charge you 2750 php with 2000 going to the girl.

If you have bought them a drink and they get to see what sort of guy you are, then they will charge you 750 php only and assume / hope / expect you will give at least 2000 php to the girl.

The girls will report back if anyone short-changes them and you will then have to wear the label if ever you want to return to LS.

[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1152118]Cuchulain is absolutely right in his assessment of the downtown (Colon St.) area. The discos there are probably 95 percent local...[/QUOTE]What are the name of the disco(s)?

The two that I frequent are both on Saciangko Street. Mr. Js is a restaurant.

In front and disco in the rear. Live band until 11pm then DJ. The food and

Beer are reasonable. Only 1/2 block from Sogo.

Furthur down the street from Dr. Js is Scorpian (all students) , large and

A little sleazy. Waiter will offer you a girl but I've never accepted. Milfs.

And Ladyboys are cruising the place. Many students will "flirt / dance for beer" and

It's a fun place if you are into dancing. Starts early. Like 9PM.

Enjoy.

[QUOTE=Mattrick;1152596]What are the name of the disco(s)?[/QUOTE]

visited cebu for a couple of days and with the help of the senior members on the board (special thanks to wr) had a wonderful experience exploring the cebu nightlife.

stayed at the beverly boutique hotel which is a 2 minute walk to all the bars on mango avenue. the hotel is very basic and costed about $50 / night including breakfast. the location of the hotel is ideal and hence was where i stayed. it's also just a 10 minute walk to the ayala mall.

ventured out late at night and visited all the bars on mango like vikings, red lips, pussycats, dimples etc and the quality of the girls went down from club to club. vikings and red lips had some lookers and some were pretty friendly. overall the later at night i went the more tired and disinterested the girls looked and that was understandable as they start work around 7 pm and have to go till 3 am.

spent most of my time at vikings and red lips. drinks were about 50-65p for patrons and 150-200p or so for the girls. most of the girls prefer to take a tequila shot but spend a good amount of time with you. the waitresses were more pushy for lady drinks in red lips that at vikings.

vikings: most if not all the girls were decent looking spinners with 2-3 looking really young / ****. there's always someone dancing on the stage in a bikini and plenty of other girls sitting around on the couches. or near the bar area. was approached by 2-3 girls as soon as i walked in but politely declined their offer for company as i wanted to check out the scene first. couple of cuties playing pool and some others sitting with customers. walked around to the bar and got chatting to a girl who had a pleasing smile and attitude. she was laughing and giggling all the time and i asked her to accompany me to the couch for company. while sitting her hands were constantly roaming around my thighs and back and i reciprocated in the same manner and she seemed to love it. there was plenty of cuddling and kissing and wandering of hands all over with her hands on my crotch half the time. so much was the excitement that in about 45 minutes of playing or so she actually came with all the foreplay right there on the couch. she was sort of embarrassed but happy at the same time, she grabbed a couple of tissues and said she needed to go and clean up and change and would be back in no time and that i should wait for her. after a few minutes she came back with a sexy red and black underwear and smelling all fresh again.

we chatted and played around for some more time with the waitresses and other girls coming upto her and asking her if we knew each other through chat or other means.

i asked her of she liked to dance and upon receiving a positive response from her asked her to meet me at julianas after her shift. that got her excited and she promptly gave me her cell phone number and we agreed to meet at 4 am.

true to her she met me there around 4 and we went inside, danced, had a drink and had a great time. she was thoroughly enjoying herself and was behaving just like e gf. met a couple of her friends inside who were it seems having a girls night out.

around 5 am we proceeded back to the hotel in a taxi, stopping by on the way at the pharmacy to grab some condoms.

upon reaching the room she agreed to take a couple of pics and was giving some nice poses which i have posted in the photo gallery. thereafter she went straight in for a shower, said she felt shy taking a shower together. so once she was done i proceeded for a quick shower and then it was action time. she had already turned off the lights by the time i came out of the shower and was lying naked in bed.

we went at it for a good couple of hours, multiple positions, bbbj, fingering and she came about 3 times during that time and was enjoying herself a lot (could make out from her facial expressions). she was perfect in terms of what i wanted, not too wild or dominating and did whatever i requested her to do and didn't seem like she was a real pro or had too much experience. said she had joined the bar about 3 months ago.

she left at around 11 am after multiple rounds and highly passionate love making. didn't take any money from me and even though i offered taxi money she politely refused and said she had enough to manage, thanked me for a great night and departed with a big smile on her face. she wanted me to visit vikings again that night but i had to catch a flight ina couple of ours to manila.

so all in all a great night with this cebu freebie and one that would go down memory lane for sure! (pictures have been posted in the photo gallery)

i went to cebu for 3 days to look around and meet with a dia girl that contacted me.

she was 24 and said she had never had a boyfriend. i was upfront with her, and told her i was just looking for some company. i told her what i wanted, a sexy massage. she still agreed to meet with me. she has a job, but only earns 500 pesos a week.

we agreed to meet at aa bbq on pusok road. which is not far from the hotel i was staying at. the bellavista. lapu lapu.

we meet at the agreed upon time that she texts me. i see her and she is really tiny, less than 5 ft. and probably under 90 lbs. i checked her i'd to make sure she was 24. she is a very sweet girl. we pick out some fish to be cooked and i order red horse.

we sit down and talk while dinner is being cooked, she is very curious about everything. a lot of fun to talk to. this is the most fun time for me the first meeting.

we finish and she agrees to go back to my hotel with me. we decide to walk back as i didn't think it was far, because the taxi only took like a minute to get there. from the hotel just go towards the new bridge to aa bbq.

on the way back to the hotel we passed probably a half dozen small time girlie bars. one of the bars was named "mermaids" also on the street, there were a lot of girls just walking around. they really gave a long stare. they were definately available. some appeared to be ****, but it's hard to tell here. my date told me not to walk around here alone at night, but that nobody would bother me if i am with her. all 85 lbs. of her. ha ha.

we get back to the hotel, go to my room and talk some more. she then tells me that she is virgin. i wouldn't have believed it anywhere else but here, i do believe it. i told her that it's ok, i'm not interested in taking her virginity. i asked her if she wanted to continue with the massage. and she said ok.

i removed my clothes and lay down on my back. i asked her to remove her shirt and bra. she had some really nice tits for such a small woman. i also asked to see her pussy just once. she was very shy, but i insisted. i just wanted to make sure she wasn't a ladyboy, but i didn't tell her that. she was just so naive.

she really didn't know what to do. i put her hand on my chest and moved it in a rubbing motion. i then put her hand on my penis, and she just held it and asked "what am i supposed to do?". i laughed a little then grabbed her hand and showed her.

then i told her to put her mouth on it, and to suck it just like eating an ice cream. she actually did a pretty good job. she looked up at me once and asked "how long before the sperm cells come out? 30 minutes?". i laughed and said no, it's not going to take nearly that long. anyway i finished and she watched very closely at the result of her labors.

we met again the next night and i asked if she wanted me to try using my mouth on her. she said ok. she had a very nice pussy, unshaven, and untrimmed. i warmed her up a little licking and sucking her tits, then moved to her clit. i started licking and sucking her clit, she put her hand to her head as though she had been thunderstruck. after about a minute she locked her little legs around my neck and said "oh i think i cum". i said great, thats good news.

it was a great time. but now time to get back to manila with my dia girl there.

kork

Nice report brother.

[QUOTE=Korkavado;1152957]We get back to the hotel, go to my room and talk some more. She then tells me that she is virgin. I wouldn't have believed it anywhere else but here, I do believe it. I told her that it's ok, I'm not interested in taking her virginity. I asked her if she wanted to continue with the massage. And she said ok.[/QUOTE]Out of curiosity, do you think that the girl would have allowed you to take her virginity if you wanted?

RG

[QUOTE=Radical Guy; 1153071]Out of curiosity, do you think that the girl would have allowed you to take her virginity if you wanted?

RG[/QUOTE]No, she wasn't ready.

[QUOTE=Korkavado; 1152957]. She has a job, but only earns 500 pesos a week.

Kork[/QUOTE]Damn, what kind of job did she have?

[QUOTE=Freezone;1153224]Damn, what kind of job did she have?[/QUOTE]From what I can gather, only the government and large business must comply with minimum wage of 320 pesos per day.

Small business are not required to comply with this, from what I am being told.

Kork

[QUOTE=Korkavado; 1153312]From what I can gather, only the government and large business must comply with minimum wage of 320 pesos per day.

Small business are not required to comply with this, from what I am being told.

Kork[/QUOTE]More of a case that they just ignore it because they can get away with it and a lot of it is under the table anyway.

[QUOTE=Korkavado; 1153312]From what I can gather, only the government and large business must comply with minimum wage of 320 pesos per day.

Small business are not required to comply with this, from what I am being told.

Kork[/QUOTE]One of my execs was a factory worker in some high tech place. 300 workers and they all got paid 150 pesos a day, and this is in Manila. So P500 in Cebu is quite comparable. And you wonder why there are so many OFW's

[QUOTE=Cheapy;1152603]The two that I frequent are both on Saciangko Street.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info Cheapy! I'll have to check these places out sometime because I'm a dancing fool!

Have been to a club called 'Dark Planet' located on Osmena probably not too far from the places you mention.

Loaded with students, the music was good and the atmosphere interesting to say the least!

[QUOTE=Member #1121]True to her she met me there around 4 and we went inside, danced, had a drink and had a great time. She was thoroughly enjoying herself and was behaving just like e GF. Met a couple of her friends inside who were it seems having a girls night out.[/QUOTE]Nice report! It's a good thing when you can meet girls without much cash outlay if you play your cards right! Most women will motivate when there is dancing involved. Every night is girls night out at Juliana after the bars close!

[QUOTE=Korkavado;1153312]From what I can gather, only the government and large business must comply with minimum wage of 320 pesos per day.[/QUOTE]Actually, minimum wage in Cebu City is P285 and the outlying provincial towns considerably less.

Yes many people are working off the books in small businesses for P100 a day!

[QUOTE=Korkavado;1152957]We get back to the hotel, go to my room and talk some more. She then tells me that she is virgin. I wouldn't have believed it anywhere else but here, I do believe it. I told her that it's ok, I'm not interested in taking her virginity. I asked her if she wanted to continue with the massage. And she said ok.[/QUOTE]What about her mouth? Did she say it was a virgin as well? If so, hands?

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1153517]What about her mouth? Did she say it was a virgin as well? If so, hands?[/QUOTE]Didn't you actually read the rest of his post Mr E?

He goes on to describe teaching her several things pertinent to your rather odd questions.

You should read right through before you make a comment like that.

Been here for 4 weeks now, and yes jaguar is closed for now. Robison mall is closed.

Went to a few spots, junkera was down in numbers, once there was 20 girls to line up now I only saw about 8, still there was 1 good there (she had a kid to a jap and claimed to be a student) so when there was 20 I usually only found 1 good, so it still rates as a must go and see. Downtown is still not a place to stagger drunk and have 1000's poking out of your pockets, but other wise like any other downtown place in the world enjoy the walk.

I went to volvo, viking and love city the first night, volvo still is 4000 bar fine I saw yen (one of the best looking girls in cebu but a shabu adict) who still only does koreans saw one other girl #52, but for 4k I went looking. Viking had 2 girls I liked the one who sat down said she does not bar fine (due to her husband?) , so off to love city, where the only good look was with clients.

To me the quality is down the number in bars of punters is low.

The next night went to lone star, the bar fin I think is 2700, 700 for the bar 2000 for the girl so you can try get the girl for 1700 if your are tom, here the quality was a bit better and the place was packed as usual, I was there loooking for some friends and a few girls remembered me (so good to look like tom) one girl was ex viking and looks like she is now on the shabu (I bf her in her first month of working) so 2 years now she still works.

For now I use FB I have had 5 hot students in the 4 weeks 2 I now see often, I offer 1000 for st as I have a gf and a student live in my house, the student is from cdo I found on fB and I pay her 10k pm the gf gets what ever I feel like she knows not to ask and for the last 4 yrs know I will have a girl or 2 every day.

I am here till aug then gone for 2 months. So if you drop in to cebu let me know I meet you around mango.

Like others I will not give details of girls unless I meet you, and as for paying 500 go find the shabu addicts in the malls, junkera is still 700

[QUOTE=Mattrick;1152596]What are the name of the disco(s)?[/QUOTE]No idea, I didn't pay attention the names, but they're easy to spot. There are 3 or 4 or them on Sanciangko St. Between Pelaez St. And Junquera Street.

Yah, those are the ones. There are a couple others I think but connected. As Cheapy said, there are a lot of students here, even as young as 14, so use discretion. And be aware that you'll very likely be the only foreigner within sight. There are girls all over the sidewalks nearby as well, all seemingly looking to get picked up.

[QUOTE=Cheapy; 1152603]The two that I frequent are both on Saciangko Street. Mr. Js is a restaurant.

In front and disco in the rear. Live band until 11pm then DJ. The food and

Beer are reasonable. Only 1/2 block from Sogo.

Furthur down the street from Dr. Js is Scorpian (all students) , large and

A little sleazy. Waiter will offer you a girl but I've never accepted. Milfs.

And Ladyboys are cruising the place. Many students will "flirt / dance for beer" and

It's a fun place if you are into dancing. Starts early. Like 9PM.

Enjoy. [/QUOTE]

I am home now from 3 weeks in staying downtown Cebu City at the GV Tower. I enjoyed the hotel if you can get a single it is 675 or so. Nicer than any pension house, being a high rise hotel with a nice lobby. I will stay here next time. The food sucks and the wifi can be questionable. I like staying downtown and this is a good fit for me.

I was in cebu city during holy week, That was a waste of 4 days. Cebu is closed good Friday and almost closed on the day before. Easter Sunday its running just fine. Saturday half open, but slow slow slow. Between Robinsion mall catching fire my second day (which, ruined some of the pickup plans) and being under the weather half the time. My trip was ok. Obviously could of been better.

In my 3 weeks staying downtown, I walked around alone at night on the major streets quite often. Everynight almost. It seems pretty safe. I rarely drink and use common sense. The girl scene was pretty slim picking, they were mostly realy harcore downtown girls, homeless or almost homeless, druggies. Again I thought I was in the main spots, Near Mcdonalds, The corner out in front of Cebu Century Hotel near the jolliebee steps, the main streets in between, the street mcsherry is on, etc etc.

The scene downtown changes lots from day to day. I reported one night I watched 100s of students and lady boys walking down Sanciangko St to the discos. Then for days and days very few. I will admit I have a very hard time determining a prosti from a non prosti or a semi pro. I made lots of friends walking downtown and they always know if a girl is a prosti or just a girl or a boy. So I got to the point I would just ask my local friends. If they are standing still on the corner. I can figure that one out. But after that. I get confused.

Lets get 1 thing straight. I don't know all the spots but walked around plenty down Sanciangko St, spent lots of time on the street drinking pepsi next to the Mcsherry, I seen lots of girls. I thought they were very below average in general, maybe the good ones got picked up early, I was usually out after midnight. I picked up a few that I only seen once. I should of spent more time down by the discos on the busy nights.

One of the girls I took to the hope hotel annex, downstairs of the Hope pension house. 50 pesos an hour, and believe me they are over charging, pretty nasty place, I should of had some beer first. She was talking BJ BJ BJ. Once we get comfortible on the nasty looking sheets her BJ skills are so bad. I give her 5 mins and say enough give her 200 pesos we agreed on 300 which is the going rate downtown for white guys. She was happy as a pig on hot mud. I wasnt but I knew I can find another girl later. My experience may not be the same but the ugly downtown girls seem to have questionable service, but that just might be my 2 girls.

The other girl I picked up, found standing around hiding from the pimps looking nervous and scared, she was very clean cut not a typical hardcore downtown girl. I snuck her into my hotel when my gf was a working. She had a decent attitude spent about an hour with her and walked her out. Gave her 500. She started telling me a sad story so I kicked her another 100. We had a beer earlier in the Our Place bar, where I took her. She headed right back to try to find another foreigner.

I have more stories, I will share later, lot of foreigners that are staying downtown, lots are there for along time, months not weeks, some hardcore drinkers, lots of australians (their dollar is strong) I like most of them, Nice guys. I spent lots of time talking to a guy that lives on 5000 pesos a week. He has a 200 pesos fan room downtown, realy nice guy.

Thanks, I will share more info later, by the way I bailed on the dia thing after about 2 days. Way to many girls to chase them. .

I just starting to feel better from my cold or H1n1 or whatever I have, and loooking forward to another trip.

[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1153946]Like others I will not give details of girls unless I meet you, and as for paying 500 go find the shabu addicts in the malls, junkera is still 700[/QUOTE]Just to clarify as I'm not sure it they are the same. Are you referring to Jakeosalom area- (not sure if I'm spelling this right) as Junkera?

[QUOTE=Mattrick; 1153412]Actually, minimum wage in Cebu City is P285 and the outlying provincial towns considerably less.

Yes many people are working off the books in small businesses for P100 a day! [/QUOTE]Mattrick is right the Min Wage regulations vary according to the region you are in and also the industry. Manila is obviously the highest followed by Cebu City. The more provincial you go the lower the min wage. It also varies by industry. For example the Min wage in El Nido in the tourist industry is relatively high (thus prompting the 25% price hikes a couple of months ago). You will also find that many of the people working in hotels are OTJ trainees, who will generally have to work for free for a few months as part of their HRM degree. As Mattrick says, its mainly the Government and more high profile businesses that actually pay min wage. Even some substantial busineesses such as the Chinese owned Unitop supermarket / dept store in Puerto Princesa are paying as low as 150P a day.

The other fave trick fro employers is to give staff 6 months contracts so they count as temporary workers with few employment rights and get fired at the end of their contract no matter how well they perform as the employer doesn't want to make them permanent staff.

[QUOTE=Freezone;1154917]Just to clarify as I'm not sure it they are the same. Are you referring to Jakeosalom area- (not sure if I'm spelling this right) as Junkera?[/QUOTE]Yes it the same place. I spell it that way.

[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1153946], and as for paying 500 go find the shabu addicts in the malls, junkera is still 700[/QUOTE]Did you try to negotiate the price 1st? I was in Cebu not less than 6 months ago and went to the Junkera basketball courts-as you spelled it, and after a few moments of negotiation the price came down to the usual price 500p ST. They started with 1000p ST so need to talk them down as prices here are not automatic.

Shark

[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1154995]Yes it the same place. I spell it that way.[/QUOTE]FYI it's "Junquera" and not "Junkera".

[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1153946]I am here till aug then gone for 2 months. So if you drop in to cebu let me know I meet you around mango.[/QUOTE]can't send you a pm. Please drop me a note. Will be there soon

Back in cold wet miserable Vancouver, after a six month quasi whorist sojourn in the tropics. 3 months in Pattaya / Jomtien and 3 months in Cebu City. But enjoying my time with my 8 year old son being an absentee father for so long. I do not work as my biz's run automatically so he gets all my time here during my off season.

Well what to report? Well I do like splitting the trip in half, so neither place gets under your skin or any steady gf for that matter. I changed my digs this year from Crown Garden to a high end luxury condo that requires a 3 mos stay which had a hot tub fully furnished. Lcd tv, full american style kitchen, in suite laundry. 2 br with spring mattresses, fully serviced. Check out Tancor Cebu, if you have 40, 000p plus to spend a mos on rent.

Saying that I picked a steady I had last year, who worked as a nanny in Kuwait / Lebanon and made house with her as I do like Med cuisine and wanted a change of pace this year, given last year my cock was in a sling with a nasty superbug infection MSSE. So not much to report in Cebu except to say I stayed loyal to one.

But not to discredit my whorist credentials in Pattaya, where I was first I had a few handfulls before setteling on one steady gf before doing the shift. She took it in stride. No stress. I must say Jomtien is a gem with all their high end restaurants, nice beach and decent foodmart. I stay with my cousin in one of his 26 serviced apartments nearby Foodmart that his Inc. Owns there.

I never strayed outside Cebu City as I do not like the province and prefer the creature comforts of Cebu city and the district around Ayala. Mabolo to Lahug only. In Jomtien other than a few beach outings to some nearby islands I would rather enjoy the company of a lovely virile asian with few strings attached.

So a pleasant placid trip to two of the best working girl mongering places where sunshine is always present at 32c to brighten your mood.

A few notes in Cebu City:

Still enjoy Sunflower although the air con is not put on full blast anymore to conserve as attendance is markedly heading south. Ladies night sucks without the competition but you save a few bucks when bringing a few of your gf's ladyfriends with the free drink included in admission.

As it is news for 2010-2011 annual report but might be old news to avid followers of the thread:

NASA, Paseo, HALO Badgers closed. Jaguar busted. Norwegian got falsely accused. Those were the major highlights / changes of Cebu during my trip.

Jokers Arms is getting a bit worn after 3 years and service / manager supervising workers is lacking as I was short changed a few times but should survive with Badgers closed and the poker place next door and the food is still good, but the draft beer is way expensive and rarely is working nor tasting that great.

I still think the bar attached to Gustavian's in Banilad is the best for expats with a few bucks to quaff a few without getting smoked out if you are a non smoker. Great pizza place next door and of course Gustavian's is always superb. The sports bar above Juliana in Mango is still very good and a good place to visit before heading downstairs.

Enjoyed as usual Mr A's with their new cafe to shoot some pool and enjoy a romantic sunset, overview of Cebu.

Jazz and Blues. I skip the high priced food and order a few semi stout beers that San Mig makes which is quite good Cerveza Negra. The sound and ambience and band are all great in Jazz and Blues and there is a non smoking section that they follow most of the time. One of the few establishments in Cebu that do this.

Wine Shop. Worth visiting during the tip for drinks not food. The Latin grooves are fine and are a welcome change to the standard singing style of most establishments, hotels, restaurants etc. Which I did not frequent much these days with exception to You Bar in Mango or Parkmall which are both good.

Penthouse, Pump1 and of course the top ticket Juliana for disco with the latter being a major tourist attraction with all the friendly natives willing to have a sleep over with anyone who rolls into town. Although I noticed many more regulars in there who use it as their pussy HQ. The place is a class act but they need to change the chairs and tables. They improved everything else.

Did not hang much in Fuente or in that general area. The lady bars that I visit now is Temptations. Vikings is getting too musty for me after visiting Cebu for so many years. Well I guess if it works don't fix it up? Not the case with Juliana it keeps getting better and better.

It attracts all types from hard core pro's after servicing hang out to your average curious filipina out for a little night out on the town. It was even open on Holy Thursday. I guess it gets a special disposition. The rest of the town looked like a brownout.

Very impressed with Radisson Blu overall and had a grand tour of all the suites but too rich for my blue blood.

Traffic is getting worse, especially around IT park. I am glad I moved locales to Mabolo, although my gym is at the Waterfront. The street level pollution is real noxious. The taxi drivers are getting worse slowly even with the recent jack up in prices.

On a more positive note, Pino in Lahug is still my favourite Pinoy restaurant and has a high end wine bar attached to if if you spend the big bucks dining. I just like the buffet lunches.

There was no new hotel at the mid price level that impressed me with exception to a new one across from Holiday hotel near my other fav Pinoy restaurant.Alejandro's. Crispy Pata is great. No serviced apartment comes close to Tancor. Like the one near Pino restaurant is a disappointment.

Ranch Restaurant near JollyBee in Talamban is doing fine with a shift to USDA meat only. No more Australian transplanted cows to Cagayan as S&R bumped his freezer space out. S&R sucks overall by the way as it is not the complete package to what we know as Costco. That might change. The last blowout sale had a few good bargains. I do go once in awhile. However it is hard to beat Ayala grocery store for the overall package.

There is some new restaurants in Ayala that I did not check out which I hear are good. Ayala is a real gem for Cebu and so many ladies wandering aimlessly throughout the mall. It is out of this world.

Surf with SmartBro external USB device with many good prepaid plans now but no unlimited monthly plans yet.

Switched to Globe for better quality IDD calls to North America. Smart Hello, is ok and cheaper a bit but I prefer the instant log in feature of Globe IDD prepaid service. I will try Skype next year.

Enjoyed 4 hour Hilot sessions for 500p every second day with a private massage who was trained by a famour hilot in Cagayan at Tesda. Really helped my spondylitis as did the hot tub, the home cooked meals and of course that virile filipina that kept my motor running out on the highway Cebu City. Hope I have not been spinning my wheels but it is a lot of fun. The whole Cebu City experience with the Jomtien thing thrown in for good measure.

All the best. Over and out. Going to hop a plane in September 1 this time and stay longer like June 1 next year and might hit more areas of Thailand this time. My son might understand in the future. But coming back to lousy weather in May is not worth it anymore.

Oh by the way the dental service in Thailand is superb for high end work. My dental implants work like a charm, but you need at least 3 months there to complete the job. High end work in Phil costs more and unless you know they are using the top labs in Manila and you know your materials I would stay clear. I am in that biz by the way.

K, all the best and will follow the board a bit more closely these days as I plan of my next Asian escapade.

As I will finally arrive next month back again in Cebu after 16 years of absence, I throughout enjoyed your report and will definitely use it as a guidance to fullfill my nights. I am staying at the Radisson Blu by the way. Do you have any idea if it is ok to bring in all my DIA dates?

[QUOTE=Tout01; 1155424]Back in cold wet miserable Vancouver, after a six month quasi whorist sojourn in the tropics. 3 months in Pattaya / Jomtien and 3 months in Cebu City. But enjoying my time with my 8 year old son being an absentee father for so long. I do not work as my biz's run automatically so he gets all my time here during my off season.

Well what to report? . [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1155369]FYI it's "Junquera" and not "Junkera".[/QUOTE]Jakosalem (pronounced "Yakosalem") is the major street that goes right through to General Maxilom (aka Mango Avenue) ,

Junquera (pronounced "hunkera") is an area also previously know as "the basketball court".

[QUOTE=Tout01; 1155424]Back in cold wet miserable Vancouver,

Given last year my cock was in a sling with a nasty superbug infection MSSE. [/QUOTE]Can relate to that as I have lived many years in Vancouver.

Whew!.You are one lucky bastard as many superbug infection needed to "cut out" the infected tissue and the surrounding areas.

PT

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1155474]Jakosalem (pronounced "Yakosalem") is the major street that goes right through to General Maxilom (aka Mango Avenue) ,

Junquera (pronounced "hunkera") is an area also previously know as "the basketball court". [/QUOTE]Ha ha, seem on this board, no matter how we spell it someone will also get it confused. Which is why in the old days when I first started here almost no one called this area by its name or street. We all simply called it the "basketball court".

Cheers all.

PT

[QUOTE=Sharka; 1155267]Did you try to negotiate the price 1st? I was in Cebu not less than 6 months ago and went to the Junkera basketball courts-as you spelled it, and after a few moments of negotiation the price came down to the usual price 500p ST. They started with 1000p ST so need to talk them down as prices here are not automatic.

Shark[/QUOTE]Hi Shark,

Hmm, Seems I've been hearing reports from others that its more difficult to get the standard 500p ST here now. When the 2 of us were here 6 months ago it was not that big a deal to talk down to 500p, maybe things changed since the last 6 months? Not sure as I'm not here at the moment so can't confirm.

How are things going with you. Let me know when you plan a return trip here.

PT

[QUOTE=Asianatic;1155462]I am staying at the Radisson Blu by the way. Do you have any idea if it is ok to bring in all my DIA dates?[/QUOTE]The Radisson Blue is likely the finest hotel in Cebu city. But I would not stay there for a monger vacation. You will feel at least out of place when you bring a DIA slum dweller back to the hotel. Good luck! (The other hotel that seems not fully supportive of the activities related to this website is the Marriott. All other hotels seem fine based on what I have heard or experienced.)

[QUOTE=Tout01;1155424]I do not work as my biz's run automatically so he gets all my time here during my off season.[/QUOTE]That is what I call the perfect business model!

I spend all of my Philippine vacations in Angeles City and Subic. With Subic as my beach and pussy venue, while Angeles is more of a "mostly pussy" kind of place. However, I am considering a Cebu side-trip to broaden my cultural horizons.

From what I read in the Cebu forum and see in the photo gallery, it seems as if Cebu has much better looking women but not as much night-life. Perhaps not as much do do between encounters other than look at whatever cultural wonders are on offer, or go scuba diving.

Am I on track here?

[QUOTE=Saigon John;1155874]The other hotel that seems not fully supportive of the activities related to this website is the Marriott.[/QUOTE]I always stay at the Marriott as do some other forum members. Lots of security which is to be expected, but never any actions which I would call non GF. That said, when I'm in town I would just as soon have other guys from ISG stay elsewhere, hahaha.

i find the girls in cebu better than manila, maybe just my taste. cebu you should not have any problems with hotels and your girls. i stayed marriott and was not alone with most guys had girls there too. (due to **** problems always ask the girl to have i'd) as for night life there are so many discos bars it never is dull.

my gf likes going bar hopping. my other girls like discos and every night i get what i want.

there are pools and if you want beach take the girls to the beach you want and stay a few nights. you be back in cebu in 2hrs if you want.

Oh and we have good malls in Cebu you can get everything at the malls. Often I just go out to watch all the sights and enjoy my little bit of heaven. When ever I take my gf I see all the guys check her out and some times she helps me get girls some she use to work with and others that I like.

I do not know for sure but I am sure you will be fine if you are somewhat discreet about it like make sure she is a live one hot for action and keep her there for longer periods of time. Bring new ones in different times of day / night. Do not spend too much time in lobby or restaurants with the ladies. Take different routes to your room.

Just being creative here.

No one other than the floor manager at the lobby might confront you with it. Just be mindfull who he is. I saw him there whilst on my tour. Introduce yourself maybe, make light talk and tell him you love the place and plan to stay a long time and come back again etc. Any snow job would do.

Bear in mind the place is huge and grand and if you arrive in a busy time you should be fine and have her depart on her own to reduce eyes on you.

As long as any one filipina is a drama queen holding out for a an extra 500 pesos banging on the door after you kicked her out for coming for a jam session at the end of her cycle and she needs to go tomorrow to the province in aid of her dying father and your a a rich bastos kano anyways you should be fine.

But if she is a screamer in bed, don't stick it in her arse and wake the neighbours at 3am. For sure your going to get kicked out.

And if that doesn't work and the Blu does not appreciate your business, move on to the Marco Polo it is the superior hotel in Cebu hands down. Marco Polio suites are top class and the lounge on the top floor is better than the Blu's. And no trouble bringing local talent by for a spin. Bring two girls at a time and put them on shift work to reduce your time in the taxi for your next date which should be say at JY Square Mcdonalds as they need to work for their lunch.

LOL. Yeah. I reported more about the experience a year ago and it is on the board. Just to report it did not fall off but yes it could have. Vancomycin by IV was the cure but after 2 weeks on IV it didn't take it out completely would you believe that? I took another culture they found a few traces of Staph Epi along with another bacteria which is common for those with HLAB27 gene found in spondylitis but which rarely infects the prostrate in the absence of surgery. Klebsiella pnemonia. I took an additional dose by oral method and it knocked it out. Lucky I had a sweetheart of a gf that let me do her with condoms and once I was cured I switched to a virgin to keep my motor clean.

I did however get klebsiella pnemonia upper tract infection but no lung infiltration on my last visit. Once again the HLAB27 gene is probably to blame.

Thats why I advise all mongers to get to travel insurance but read fine print if you can get take home meds or not and if std's are covered or not. It saved me 6, 000 USD in past two years for a cost of $700.

It is a minefield out there. I will stick with the virgins but hard to find one of legal age in all orifices.

Cebu is good overall just the clap is your common enemy.

I would allways use a condom with a working lady. Either get her tested or ask to see her hygiene card (and not let her out if your sight). I never understand any one want to DATY with a wl. And buy your own condoms get a few brands as size will vary and you will see which brand works for your size.

The clap in Asia is a super bug and can be total drug resistant due to the girls taking the meds a few days and then saving the rest for a rainy day. Most wl have uti, bv and chiamydia (dia) on and off. My gf of 4 years is ex wl can tell you which girls have had what and when (as they sell their phone to buy meds) so if you find a wl no phone run away. There was 200 reported cases of aids in Cebu last year one girl I know got aids.

I have 2 girls live with me and I go bar hopping I never got any thing the last 4 years here. But I always treat each wl as a wl. My gfs have to live with me and get tested every time I come back.

[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1156214]I would allways use a condom with a working lady. Either get her tested or ask to see her hygiene card (and not let her out if your sight). I never understand any one want to DATY with a wl. And buy your own condoms get a few brands as size will vary and you will see which brand works for your size.

The clap in Asia is a super bug and can be total drug resistant due to the girls taking the meds a few days and then saving the rest for a rainy day. Most wl have uti, bv and chiamydia (dia) on and off. My gf of 4 years is ex wl can tell you which girls have had what and when (as they sell their phone to buy meds) so if you find a wl no phone run away. There was 200 reported cases of aids in Cebu last year one girl I know got aids.

I have 2 girls live with me and I go bar hopping I never got any thing the last 4 years here. But I always treat each wl as a wl. My gfs have to live with me and get tested every time I come back. [/QUOTE]I would think this report is a bit far fetched, as it costs only 400pso to get rid of the above, and get tested but what happens in the next 3 months? Bit far fetched I think.

[QUOTE=Tout01;1155424]I never strayed outside Cebu City as I do not like the province and prefer the creature comforts of Cebu city and the district around Ayala. Mabolo to Lahug only.[/QUOTE]Great annual report there Tout and welcome back to the board! Will have to make it a point to bump into each other later this year for a couple of frosty Cerveza Negras! Still think you are missing out by not visiting the more placid areas of the province. Btw, what is the atmosphere like over at Temptations now?

[QUOTE=David_33]Lots of security which is to be expected, but never any actions which I would call non GF.[/QUOTE]Yes but the 'walk of shame' can be visually painful. :eek:

[QUOTE=Mahaba]I spend all of my Philippine vacations in Angeles City and Subic. With Subic as my beach and pussy venue, while Angeles is more of a "mostly pussy" kind of place. However, I am considering a Cebu side-trip to broaden my cultural horizons.

From what I read in the Cebu forum and see in the photo gallery, it seems as if Cebu has much better looking women but not as much night-life. Perhaps not as much do do between encounters other than look at whatever cultural wonders are on offer, or go scuba diving. [/QUOTE]Better continue to vacation in Luzon as there isn't much going on in Cebu. Wouldn't want to let the word out that it is the GFE capital of S. E. Asia. ;) But being the second largest city in the Philippines, it has all the things to keep you occupied more or less.

[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1156214]The clap in Asia is a super bug and can be total drug resistant due to the girls taking the meds a few days and then saving the rest for a rainy day. Most wl have uti, bv and chiamydia (dia) on and off. My gf of 4 years is ex wl can tell you which girls have had what and when (as they sell their phone to buy meds) so if you find a wl no phone run away.[/quote]I will have to call BOLA on this one. Any girl in the Philippines would rather cut off there left arm than sell there most prized possession, the cellphone. Most bar girls in Cebu get there lady drink payments the following shift so they always have a few hundred pesos in there pocket. When the girls go for the weekly hygene checkup at city health if there is a problem they are given a prescription slip right away and if they inform the nurse of low-funds they are sometimes given the meds for free. If they test positive for something the bar is informed and they are not allowed to work until they can test clean, atleast thats the rule in theory.

Is there a way around the tests and the pills, yes there are ways to get fake tests and make the bar think they are taking meds when they did not, but generally speaking most bar girls in Cebu do not want to get fired and upset the gravy train and most if not all take the meds and test clean and go back to work. Street or mall freelancers have no such testing, so caveat emptor.

It is possible some girls are not taking all the pills and save some for another time, but IMHO that happens more in AC then in Cebu where the bar girls are more hardened, but thats just my take. The meds required are 2 200mg Suprax-Cefixime and 4 250mg Azithromycin-Zithromax so there is not alot of saving pills for later stuff when its only a few pills total.

[quote]There was 200 reported cases of aids in Cebu last year one girl I know got aids.[/QUOTE]If you read the latest information coming out of heath organizations in the Philippines you know that the HIV-Aids rate is on the rise, but alot of that is men-men sexual contact and very few woman are being infected.

The official stats for March 2011 are 172 new HIV-Aids cases discovered within all of the Philippines, with 158 of these new cases being men and 14 women and 2011 year to date newly discovered HIV-Aids cases total 483.

With all the rampant sex tourisim and all the thousands of bar girls in every corner of the Philippines. 14 new female HIV-Aids cases is fairly low.

[url]http://www.pnac.org.ph/index.php?mact=News,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=250&cntnt01origid=119&cntnt01returnid=39[/url]

I am giving you my experience living with a ex WL for 4yrs, she has ex work mate who tell her (and me)" I have a problem" so we hold on to the cell phone until the funds are paid back. Even for 400 peso they need a loan until the next barfine.

The city health Hy genie check is not for all STD's so why risk it until you pay for a real test?

I am pointing out that when you pick up from a bar you have some safety there, the mall and street girls are the ones I would never risk. Junkera do have hygenie the last time I checked so I do not classify them as street, national book store mango, colon and the road down near the water are the street girl risk areas. I posted this after I read the guy who got some thing, I was pointing out it is better to get the girls checked rather than you getting some thing, so if I am wrong enjoy your next BBsex and not complain that you get some thing for life. The girl I know who got aids was working in a bar and use to sex clients with out condoms she thought she had fever.

Like I said I giving you advice on what I have seen, you have a different experience, one thing I will say if a WL say use a condom use one, as she is worried about giving you some thing, she knows she has may "have a problem"

I only joined this forum for my trip to india, I am in cebu now till aug so I am posting between girls. But another forum I use is similar with guys boasting how the sex wl with out condoms then some would complain that they got a STD

Just to clarify they say "sell" when they have it on hock, they tell the punter it was stolen or lost. Most of the time you hold onto the phone for 1/4 to 1/2 the price you buy it second hand. Ie a 4000 phone is hocked for 1000, or a 1000 will get 400.

There is a lingo that the wl only know and due to boredom I read my gf phone an see the goss, I am sure you could write a tv series just from one wl phone

[QUOTE=Tout01;1155424]Enjoyed 4 hour Hilot sessions for 500p every second day with a private massage who was trained by a famour hilot in Cagayan at Tesda.[/QUOTE]Thank you for this report.

Can you please elaborate on this Hilot session? I would love a professional massage.

B

[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1156540]Just to clarify they say "sell" when they have it on hock, they tell the punter it was stolen or lost. Most of the time you hold onto the phone for 1/4 to 1/2 the price you buy it second hand. Ie a 4000 phone is hocked for 1000, or a 1000 will get 400.[/QUOTE]Yes that's a common practice for alot of people in the Philippines to put there cell phone on loan or as they call it "donation" to the local pawn shop or sometimes a 5-6 will take a cell phone as collateral but for a bar girl to sell her cell phone is pretty rare unless she bought a newer model.

[QUOTE=Tout01;1155424]Well what to report?[/quote]Excellent trip report Tout, very interesting as I knew most of the places you discussed with a few exceptions and it was good to read your POV on things.

[quote]I changed my digs this year from Crown Garden to a high end luxury condo that requires a 3 mos stay which had a hot tub fully furnished. Lcd tv, full american style kitchen, in suite laundry. 2 br with spring mattresses, fully serviced. Check out Tancor Cebu, if you have 40,000p plus to spend a mos on rent.[/quote]Very good info, I will check them out when I return. You mentioned it's located in Mobolo, is it closer to Ayala, SM or the new Oasis condo development at the back of the golf course? Does it have a decent view or it is low-rise under 10 floors? Condotel? I am just trying to figure out where it's located. I checked it out online and it looks ok so any other info you can provide would be helpful. PM me if you want.

[quote]Jokers Arms is getting a bit worn after 3 years and service / manager supervising workers is lacking as I was short changed a few times but should survive with Badgers closed and the poker place next door and the food is still good, but the draft beer is way expensive and rarely is working nor tasting that great.[/quote]Most of the draft beer in the Philippines sucks IMHO. Filipinos prefer warm beer in bottles drunk from a glass filled with ice so the draft beer often sits for a long time. Has anyone been to the poker place and played a few hands? Always wondered whats the deal with that place.

[quote]I still think the bar attached to Gustavian's in Banilad is the best for expats with a few bucks to quaff a few without getting smoked out if you are a non smoker. Great pizza place next door and of course Gustavian's is always superb. The sports bar above Juliana in Mango is still very good and a good place to visit before heading downstairs.[/quote]I agree that Julianas or as its called now Avenue Julianas is a fun place to go and meet new people. I was at the grand opening of the Sports Exchange and talked with the owner who was from the UK but lived in Vancouver for awhile, nice guy but I haven't been back since. It's hiden away on the upper floor and with no windows I often forget it's there but I will have to visit again.

[quote]Enjoyed as usual Mr A's with their new cafe to shoot some pool and enjoy a romantic sunset, overview of Cebu.[/quote]I was last at Mr. A back in 2009 for a nice dinner with a chatmate and her tambok sister who wanted to order the whole menu. Nice place but make sure if you go take a newer gasoline taxi as the LPG taxis have a very hard time to get up the hill close to Mr. A.

[quote]Wine Shop. Worth visiting during the tip for drinks not food. The Latin grooves are fine and are a welcome change to the standard singing style of most establishments, hotels, restaurants etc. Which I did not frequent much these days with exception to You Bar in Mango or Parkmall which are both good.[/quote]Wine shop is good on a Friday or Saturday night, more customers and the live band makes it a nice place to take a girl. YOU bar on Mango is ok, depends on what band is there and with the smaller space inside it can get a little loud. If you want to sit outside you have to go around 9pm to get a table but the place has alot more groups and not so many freelancers and single girls as Julianas.

[quote]Penthouse, Pump1 and of course the top ticket Juliana for disco with the latter being a major tourist attraction with all the friendly natives willing to have a sleep over with anyone who rolls into town. Although I noticed many more regulars in there who use it as their pussy HQ. The place is a class act but they need to change the chairs and tables. They improved everything else.[/quote]Regulars who use it as there Pussy HQ? Why didn't you come say Hi, seriously I would have bought you a SML LOL. The chairs and tables will not change since the Korean owner likes the look and so security can see what's going on under the tables and they can pack in more people in a smaller area.

[quote]Did not hang much in Fuente or in that general area. The lady bars that I visit now is Temptations. Vikings is getting too musty for me after visiting Cebu for so many years. Well I guess if it works don't fix it up? Not the case with Juliana it keeps getting better and better. It attracts all types from hard core pro's after servicing hang out to your average curious filipina out for a little night out on the town. It was even open on Holy Thursday. I guess it gets a special disposition. The rest of the town looked like a brownout..[/quote]I have never been to Tempations and I will have to check it out. A few senior members posted here they will try to rip you off with extra mamasan drink fees and higher barfines so I always gave it a pass with the bad feedback. If you happend to stay late at Julianas they hold a "sexy girl competition" with the winner getting a bottle of tequila. It used to be held only on Thursday nights but any night that the club is still jumping at 3 or 4am they should have it.

[quote]Very impressed with Radisson Blu overall and had a grand tour of all the suites but too rich for my blue blood.[/quote]I have never stayed here but I was offered a 1000P super promo room rate right after they opened late in 2010, but I was booked at another hotel for the week so had to decline. The promo was offered to a travel agent friend of mine based in Cebu and it was only good for one specific night. Too bad it didn't work out I would have liked to check it out. I am with you and find the 8000+ rate way too expensive for me, it's just not practical for someone who stays in Cebu for a few months at a time to spend that kind of money day after day it's like burning it IMHO. The girls might get all excited and jump up and down when they hear you are staying at the Blu but that just means to them they will ask for bigger and more expensive gifts when you walk around SM together.

[quote]Traffic is getting worse, especially around IT park. I am glad I moved locales to Mabolo, although my gym is at the Waterfront. The street level pollution is real noxious. The taxi drivers are getting worse slowly even with the recent jack up in prices.[/quote]The taxi drivers are much better in Cebu than in most places, but you still have to watch the taxi drivers you hail in Lapux2 and some surrounding areas due to faster meters and demands for 'extra' payments on top of the listed fare, some are reasonable some not. The pollution is ever present and it's not getting any better with more and more cars and trucks on the roads every day. It's the older jeepnys and buses that are the worst offenders with the blackest smoke coming from the tailpipe, you would think they burned coal instead of gasol or diesoline.

[quote]On a more positive note, Pino in Lahug is still my favourite Pinoy restaurant and has a high end wine bar attached to if if you spend the big bucks dining. I just like the buffet lunches.[/quote]Where is this resto located? I have not been but I would like to.

[quote]Ranch Restaurant near JollyBee in Talamban is doing fine with a shift to USDA meat only. No more Australian transplanted cows to Cagayan as S&R bumped his freezer space out. S&R sucks overall by the way as it is not the complete package to what we know as Costco. That might change. The last blowout sale had a few good bargains. I do go once in awhile. However it is hard to beat Ayala grocery store for the overall package.[/quote]The S&R you talk about is that the Cosco-like place in Mandaue? Can anyone walk in and buy things or is it like Costco where you have to be a member? Is it easy to get a membership and whats the cost? On a related note has anyone been to the White Gold club? Is it similar to Costco? I have never been and any additional info would be useful.

[quote]Surf with SmartBro external USB device with many good prepaid plans now but no unlimited monthly plans yet. Switched to Globe for better quality IDD calls to North America. Smart Hello, is ok and cheaper a bit but I prefer the instant log in feature of Globe IDD prepaid service. I will try Skype next year.[/quote]No unlimited internet plans from Smart, are you sure? What about Globe?

Just landed in Cebu for a couple of days of punani before I move on to provincial Davao for some labour. More precisely I currently reside in Beverly Boutique Business Hotel close to the huge church, a stone throw from Mango and Disneyland. Simple but functional hotel, but my AC sounds like the jet plane I flew in with. I fail to see why anyone would label this a business hotel. Monkey business perhaps?

Ping me if your around and want to team up for a drink.

On the Smart Bro dongle issue. I find the unlimited surf packages quite useful. One can buy several different packages, depending on how many days you need and if you wish to be on-line always or spend less and have a max amount of data you get to download. Just start the software resident in / installed from the modem storage, click the URL and you get to view all the available packages.

Barba

I had a guy staying in my hotel and who went to lapu lapu to check out the street scene, he said it was kind of expensive 800 to 1000 pesos for ST. He rented a cab that drove him around the area, so I think he did get to the main spots.

I know there are Street workers downtown, around mcdonalds, and the main streets. As well as Street workers up at mango ave, some cute ones if you get there early I would say around 7 30 to 8 30 pm. Nice ones get picked up quickly, watch out of lady boys, quite a few.

Freelancers in the Julliana Disco, East to find them, but its not like they are stacked up to meet you either.

There has to be freelancers and street workers in other places besides theses main ones, Anyone have any infor on this?

Thanks

They're all over downtown Colon Street. Read back a few pages and you'll see the posts YOU made backing me up on the scene I described down there.... :-)



[QUOTE=Cuchulain; 1156952]

Freelancers in the Julliana Disco, East to find them, but its not like they are stacked up to meet you either.

There has to be freelancers and street workers in other places besides theses main ones, Anyone have any infor on this?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Yes, I know they are downtown, I was looking for street girls in other areas bisides downtown and mango, and Lapu lapu.

How are the othe suburbs to cebu city or other areas like It park, SM mall area, Ayala mall area, Is there s street scene out there.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Cuchulain; 1157271]Yes, I know they are downtown, I was looking for street girls in other areas bisides downtown and mango, and Lapu lapu.

How are the othe suburbs to cebu city or other areas like It park, SM mall area, Ayala mall area, Is there s street scene out there.

Thanks[/QUOTE]They are pros at every mall, for street walkers the other ones I mentioned before robinson book store mango 10. 310655, 123. 895633, and the port service road 10. 306095, 123. 91561. You can also meet pimps out side volvo and jaguar but you will need to set a price before you waste time. I would just stick to the bars and junkera, unless you want one who looks like "x" then spend the time looking the street.

I have had luck on FB with students, but for now I am sending my contacts to the province to get me what I want, as I want one to stay home all the time and not have FB. For me it the experience. I get bored easily. Hehe

[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1157289]They are pros at every mall, for street walkers the other ones I mentioned before robinson book store mango 10. 310655, 123. 895633, and the port service road 10. 306095, 123. 91561. You can also meet pimps out side volvo and jaguar but you will need to set a price before you waste time. I would just stick to the bars and junkera, unless you want one who looks like "x" then spend the time looking the street.

I have had luck on FB with students, but for now I am sending my contacts to the province to get me what I want, as I want one to stay home all the time and not have FB. For me it the experience. I get bored easily. Hehe[/QUOTE]I not sure if frenzy3 has done much as same as his post befour, re getting stds. And I think he is dreaming about how it works.

[QUOTE=Paulr1950;1157297]I not sure if frenzy3 has done much as same as his post befour, re getting stds. And I think he is dreaming about how it works.[/QUOTE]Unlike you I have posted photos of my girls, even one with me in it. I been in cebu for 4 years, and I love cebu, my mates who come here like what we do. So if I going about it wrong YMMV. Enjoy your view as I enjoy cebu

Just organised my 4th trip to phillipines and my 2nd trip to cebu, last time I was there was early 2010.

Been away from mongering for a while with work and girl friend, but looking forward to this trip. Been reading previous reports and so far, seems like there has been few changes. And as this will be my only trip for the year so I'm reaching out for some help for those cebu members that knows the place like 1+1.

I'm staying at crown regency tower once again as I liked the hotel and the facilities, but last time I was able to get great massages from the spa center that is located inside the hotel but they were bit pricey and even though they were pleasant it was certain that extra services won't be provided, so I was wondering if there are some places that offer extra services in cebu city that other members might recommend? It seems like some members tend to get their dia contacts to come over for a massage and only spa places that were mentioned here are, Finland spa and Hana Valley.

Silver dollar had fire incident, is the place still next to crown regency and everything the same?

Last time I checked out mango square and the clubs and bars near by, but this time would like to try something little bit more upscale place. But seems like jaguar is closed so would my next best option be arena? Or mactan island mermaid?

I know you can wait for the girls to finish their shift and pick them up at juliana but would like to check the place out just to see what it is all about.

Also planning to go to Shangaria resort mactan for the swimming pool and beach during the day, is there any other place say within 1 hours taxi ride that members might recommend?

Once again thank you so much for all the info this place has provided me over my many trips, I'm still a toddler in early 20's so please don't give me a knock out punch if I seemed to have asked some silly questions.

And I will post after the trip! Thank you

CrazyKido, my cynical question would be; if you are in your early 20's, unless you look like Quasimodo, what are you doing on ISG?

[QUOTE=David_33;1157422]CrazyKido, my cynical question would be; if you are in your early 20's, unless you look like Quasimodo, what are you doing on ISG?[/QUOTE]There's several answers to that question. Maybe he does look like quasimodo. Maybe he's overweight? Or has a huge wart. Maybe he's a preacher needing to hide his true intentions from his family. Or just possibly, he's too shy to talk about sex in his home country. Going out of the country, he might find the "establishment" a little easier to find sex without wondering if he's making the right moves or not. Who cares why a early 20's is here. I was lurking on this site before it became a. Info web address. I was in my 20's then as well, but I was way too shy to talk to other women in the US even though I am (was) good looking. I would rather have the structured "I pay you / you give me sex" routine. It's much easier. That's the exact reason I'm here. Oh yeah, maybe he has the asian fever and not enough asians where he's from. Not that I know anything about Asian fever at all!

A Western guy in his early 20s in Cebu would just have to walk around to get all the pussy he could manage even if he had two huge warts (which could be easily removed for what a Jaguar girl would cost him). He also mentioned that he had a GF, so he can´t be all that shy. I didn't want to get into racial themes, but even if he is from one of the Filipino's less appreciated countries he doesn't need to be on ISG or paying for it. But hey, if he prefers to go to places like Jaguar and spend a lot of money, that's as they say in LOS;"up to him".

[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1156534]I am giving you my experience living with a ex WL for 4yrs, she has ex work mate who tell her (and me)" I have a problem" so we hold on to the cell phone until the funds are paid back. Even for 400 peso they need a loan until the next barfine.

The city health Hy genie check is not for all STD's so why risk it until you pay for a real test?

I am pointing out that when you pick up from a bar you have some safety there, the mall and street girls are the ones I would never risk. Junkera do have hygenie the last time I checked so I do not classify them as street, national book store mango, colon and the road down near the water are the street girl risk areas. I posted this after I read the guy who got some thing, I was pointing out it is better to get the girls checked rather than you getting some thing, so if I am wrong enjoy your next BBsex and not complain that you get some thing for life. The girl I know who got aids was working in a bar and use to sex clients with out condoms she thought she had fever.

Like I said I giving you advice on what I have seen, you have a different experience, one thing I will say if a WL say use a condom use one, as she is worried about giving you some thing, she knows she has may "have a problem"

I only joined this forum for my trip to india, I am in cebu now till aug so I am posting between girls. But another forum I use is similar with guys boasting how the sex wl with out condoms then some would complain that they got a STD[/QUOTE]Frenzy,

A lot of mongers are avid barebackers. Even those who use condoms do so selectively and have certain girls they deem safe for barebacking. So when you post a scary story about being afflicted by a strain of Asian super claps and your dick nearly falling off it scares people and they will attack you. It's not personal but the fear and denial is very real. :eek:

[QUOTE=Chocha Monger; 1157500]Frenzy,

A lot of mongers are avid barebackers. Even those who use condoms do so selectively and have certain girls they deem safe for barebacking. So when you post a scary story about being afflicted by a strain of Asian super claps and your dick nearly falling off it scares people and they will attack you. It's not personal but the fear and denial is very real. . [/QUOTE]I was not the person who got the STD I was posting my reply to the guy who did. I said it is cheeper to get the girl tested rather than cure the STD

I will keep to bb my gf1 and gf2 (they live in my house). Any other girl I use a condom until I get her tested. I have seen plenty of the street girls in cebu and none would I sex with out a condom.

I get all types of girls in Cebu and hear all the stories. Do not think a wl is telling you the truth you are a meal ticket. They have less of an idea of STD than punters. I live here and get all the news from the girls fist hand. I do not care that guys get what ever they get as they bb wl. I have my toys parked in the garage and when I rent I use caution.

[QUOTE=David_33;1157491], that's as they say in LOS;"up to him".[/QUOTE]I thought they said " up to you " LOL.

Went to red lips last night, did not see any girl worth to bar fine, there was 2 that where ok, so I not asked the BF price, I read some where it about 1600 (any one knows please correct me)

If you go there go before 9 as the place has limited seats, the bar area is where the girls hang out so if you want to mix with the girls sit at the bar.

Else it is nice place to drink and watch

Yes Mattricks, still waiting for us to connect once again in Cebu. I enjoyed those Cerv Neg at Marco Polo with the pizza of course last time. Most higher end establishments offer it but I just stock up at home buying 20 bottles at a time as many store keep limited quantities.

Temptations is a nice place for a drink. Less smokey nice positive layout but it is a hard sell. That's why I only go with my gf in tow. This way I am not bothered. I noticed less of the hard core expats drinking there this year and a significant decline in numbers of girls. But overall much better than average when you compare it with 80% of the no charge entry gro bars that are cramped and dingy and smokey for the most part. What use is the friendly ambience of Silver Dollar for instance when you are dying of smoke inhalation? I go to SD for the early bird drink before the smokers take over the place. This is the only thing Davao has over Cebu. No smoking policy is strictly enforced. Not being sanctimonious but I prefer fresh air and fresh disease free pussy. Probably the location sucks.

As to the massage guy I won't pass on his number as I do not want to share in case the price increases or his availability declines. Same policy applies to WL. If and when I stay long term in Cebu I prob hire him as domestic helper. 500 p for four hours is too much.

Tancor 2 is 7-8 floors and is located behind jazz and blues. There is Tancor 1 not far away but hard to get single 1br as most Koreans students with money live there.

I would ask the owner of Juliana to use the same style of chairs and tables but just buy new ones and make the seat a little bit bigger with more hard foam in case we ingest too much liquid calories.

Pino is near JY Square all taxi drivers know it. It is owned by Lhul. It is a real gem. Best tasting value Pinoy buffet imop for lunch.

S& R is like 800p to be a member. Bring your passport and join on site. You would go there once a month or so and their booze selection is one of the best in town. New Zealand meat is superb. Almost as good as Ireland, where I am heading this July to Ballybunion for a family reunion.

No monthly unlimited for prepaid Smart Bro. But yes there is unlimited just for a few days.

I think Globe is same or I would have switched or Smart would have matched the offer.

Smart Bro is the better service. I returned my Globe Tattoo.

My vacation is getting close, so I have some questions that I could not find any infor by reading the forum.

-I will be in cebu in August. I know its not the best time, rainy season, but is August really so bad? I know weather is relative and unpredictable subject but should I expect extreme weather conditions?

-I am willing to try my chance with Korean ladies (freebies). Anybody have luck with that, is there really a "chance" to talk about? Where is the best place to achieve that? Mactan area? Would really like to know if anyone tried this path before.

-My plan is basicly like that: Daytime waste my time at the hotel pool, socialize and waste more time at the malls, meet my FH girls, nite time visit discos (Julianas, Pump) , high end places (Arena, Jaguar, etc. Will get an update before I leave) , and some bikini bars (SD if reopened, Dimples, Viking etc. Again will get an update before I leave). If the weather is good maybe I can visit Bohol. Anything else I should consider about? Any recommendations will be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Tout01; 1157665]Tancor 2 is 7-8 floors and is located behind jazz and blues. There is Tancor 1 not far away but hard to get single 1br as most Koreans students with money live there.

I would ask the owner of Juliana to use the same style of chairs and tables but just buy new ones and make the seat a little bit bigger with more hard foam in case we ingest too much liquid calories.

Pino is near JY Square all taxi drivers know it. It is owned by Lhul. It is a real gem. Best tasting value Pinoy buffet imop for lunch.

S& R is like 800p to be a member. Bring your passport and join on site. You would go there once a month or so and their booze selection is one of the best in town. New Zealand meat is superb. Almost as good as Ireland, where I am heading this July to Ballybunion for a family reunion.

No monthly unlimited for prepaid Smart Bro. But yes there is unlimited just for a few days.

I think Globe is same or I would have switched or Smart would have matched the offer.

Smart Bro is the better service. I returned my Globe Tattoo. [/QUOTE]Tout01,

Thanks for the reply and your additional info on S&R, Tancor and Pino will be put to good use.

Pino is owned by the L'Luillier clan, interesting. They pretty much rule Cebu with a pawnshop on every corner and are considered Cebu royality and mingle in the highest of circles within the Philippines. If you go to Blu Bar or happen to visit City Lights with a mountain view you can see the L'Luillier mansion on the hill at Monterrazas. Multi-level with its own elevator and security.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1157590]I thought they said " up to you " LOL.[/QUOTE]Yes, but that wouldn't have been grammatically correct so I modified it.

[QUOTE=SahinAga;1158133]-I am willing to try my chance with Korean ladies (freebies). Anybody have luck with that, is there really a "chance" to talk about? Where is the best place to achieve that? Mactan area? Would really like to know if anyone tried this path before.[/quote]Are you under 30 and look like a young Brad Pitt?

If so, then you may do very well. However, you will have to find the few who hang out with their female friends. If any Korean guys are involved, even just friends, you will get incessantly cockblocked.

If you're over 30, your chances are nil (deduct 10% chance with each year past 30) If you're overweight / fat your chances are nil. If you're bald / balding your chances are nil.

Ability to speak Korean would help mightily.

[QUOTE=Catire; 1158165]Are you under 30 and look like a young Brad Pitt?

If so, then you may do very well.

If you're over 30, your chances are nil. If you're overweight / fat your chances are nil. If you're bald / balding your chances are nil.

Ability to speak Korean would help mightily.[/QUOTE]Well, I am under 30 (29) , but I resemble Burt Reynolds (without a moustache) more than Brad Pitt. Still have a chance? I am not fat / overweight (maybe bigboned haha) , and I m not bald / balding (but hairy like wolwerine).

I only know how to say Hello, in Korean and that is Annyong, I learned that from Arrested Development. Is kimchi korean? I guess I know 2 words hehe.

I made a scientific approach to this problem. I set accounts at many cupid sites. (hk-China-phils-Thailand-korea-japan). And I do nothing, just log in from time to time. And I just collect interests / winks. As you can guess phils is the best country for freebies. You can get +50 winks / interests per day. China is also good but I mainly attract girls from smaller provinces which I have no intention to visit so when you limit yourself to Beijing and Shanghai, its still good but not even close to Phils. Thailand is also good but finding a non bg english speaker is hard. But you will get interests / winks no matter what. For HK numbers are dwindling, I was targeted by older age group, and the looks of the ladies are not that great. I managed to get 2 interests / winks per day. And domestic helpers are included in that number. Korea is even worse. Just a 20 interests in 1 month. And Japan is the worst. Only a few interests and girls barely view my profile.

So I know it s not easy but not impossible.

This morning had a text from a girl who said she was a friend of one of my contacts. After the usual text tennis I went to meet her texting, then a very very cute girl emerged from behind a pillar. She had told me she was 18 by text but looked even fresher so I asked her. I asked her and she said 16. So I immediately said, sorry you can't come to my place, call me in two years time, and went back to my pad. There followed a series of folow up texts saying "I'm really 18" " Do you have I'd to prove it","No but I can prove it when we have sex"," How will you do that","I can drive you in sex". So there we have it, the new I'd.

It's too bad, she was seriously cute, but any involvement in this type of situation is a recipe for expensive blackmail.

[QUOTE=GregLondon; 1158321]This morning had a text from a girl who said she was a friend of one of my contacts. After the usual text tennis I went to meet her texting, then a very very cute girl emerged from behind a pillar. She had told me she was 18 by text but looked even fresher so I asked her. I asked her and she said 16. So I immediately said, sorry you can't come to my place, call me in two years time, and went back to my pad. There followed a series of folow up texts saying "I'm really 18" " Do you have I'd to prove it","No but I can prove it when we have sex"," How will you do that","I can drive you in sex". So there we have it, the new I'd.

It's too bad, she was seriously cute, but any involvement in this type of situation is a recipe for expensive blackmail.[/QUOTE]Smart move!

On subject of I'd's I got a cute girl a ticket to Manila on my last trip. She showed her voters cert as her I'd at check in. Later I told her to get a proper I'd as not everyone accepts such I'd. She's 20 but looks 16.

She went to get her birth cert copied as preparation for her I'd and found out the Christian name on it isn't quite the same as what she thought it was. Talk about a girl in shock. She just thought that the name her Dad called her was her name.

[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1157289]I have had luck on FB with students, but for now I am sending my contacts to the province to get me what I want, as I want one to stay home all the time and not have FB. For me it the experience. I get bored easily. Hehe[/QUOTE]Some of my best contacts / GF were procured by locals and don't go online!

One of my more naughty friends came around today to tell of her adventures last night. She and a friend had had a night out at Mango's after a few too many drinks she left around 2am and then realized her purse had been stolen.

Without a peso on her she was wandering around wondering how to get home when a car pulled up to offer her a lift home. Turned out to be the local Priest who she recognised. He took her to short time hotel and fucked her before dropping her home and on to a drugs session. Warned her not to tell anyone on the grounds that there are special angels who look after priests and would strike her down if she blabbed. Shés still standing nevertheless,

[QUOTE=CrazyKido; 1157412]I'm staying at crown regency tower once again as I liked the hotel and the facilities, but last time I was able to get great massages from the spa center that is located inside the hotel but they were bit pricey and even though they were pleasant it was certain that extra services won't be provided, so I was wondering if there are some places that offer extra services in cebu city that other members might recommend?

Last time I checked out mango square and the clubs and bars near by, but this time would like to try something little bit more upscale place. But seems like jaguar is closed so would my next best option be arena? Or mactan island mermaid?

Also planning to go to Shangaria resort mactan for the swimming pool and beach during the day, is there any other place say within 1 hours taxi ride that members might recommend? [/QUOTE]Have not been to a lingam massage since a few were busted last year as reported here on this thread. But I'm sure it is business as usual by now. Check Duke's Spa or Chuva Chuva. It has also been reported that Crown Regency has a 24 hour massage available at their Guadalupe locale.

BTW, Crown Regency Towers has a KTV but have not heard any intel on the club. Hopefully you can check the place out and report back!

Jaguar is back open and was only closed a few days. Yes Arena would be another option in Cebu City. Would not make a special trip to Mermaid unless you were already in Lapu2x as the place can be hit or miss. A hit if the Koreans / Japanese have not been there yet! Have you tried I. B. C?

Shangri-La has a day rate available which includes their lunch buffet. Many other resorts in that area have a day use fee. But if you have the time and gumption, head in either direction up or down the coast as there are many resorts available. Liloan is close enough to the city and has some nice resorts by the sea.

[QUOTE=SahinAga; 1158133]-I will be in cebu in August. I know its not the best time, rainy season, but is August really so bad? I know weather is relative and unpredictable subject but should I expect extreme weather conditions?

-I am willing to try my chance with Korean ladies (freebies). Anybody have luck with that, is there really a "chance" to talk about? Where is the best place to achieve that? Mactan area? Would really like to know if anyone tried this path before. [/QUOTE]Would not worry too much about the weather in Cebu as most of the typhoons batter Luzon. But there is a typhoon heading towards the PI as we speak which is out of season to say the least!

Had the chance to take advantage of some inebriated Korean women at Club Pump but unfortunately I was with someone already. Would also check out Sunflower on ladies night since they have a dance contest and Korean women always show up!

I visited Chuva Chuva in January, my second visit there. Cost was 1200 for prostate massage and hand job, with a mediocre massage leading up to the final event. You are not allowed to select a girl beforehand, even though last time I protested. They do offer you your money back if you don't like the girl and I have no reason to suspect that they would renege on this. The girl I had last time (in fact both times) was nothing special at all, they were in their early 20s and not particularly attractive. On both occasions sex was flatly turned down despite me offering substantially more money. The prostate massage is nice but it was performed externally by massaging gently underneath my balls, but it seemed to work as I had a very strong orgasm and nearly squirted myself in my eye. I have had prostate massages where the girl actually inserts her lubricated fingers inside your backside and that is an experience in itself, though I admit not to everyone's taste. I guess I am just an incorrigble pevert!
Chuva Chuva is a short walk from Robinsons Mall on the same side of the road as the Diplomat Hotel

[QUOTE=Mortman;1158504]Chuva Chuva is a short walk from Robinsons Mall on the same side of the road as the Diplomat Hotel[/QUOTE]Next time you are in town you must try their Mabolo branch as you will be pleasantly surprised!

Chuva*2 Robinson ask for Lezel you will like what you see and yes the mobolo one has some cute girls there. From what I know most of the girls working there will not offer sex on the premises but if you want a gf you might get lucky.

[QUOTE=SahinAga;1158133]-I am willing to try my chance with Korean ladies (freebies). Anybody have luck with that, is there really a "chance" to talk about? Where is the best place to achieve that? Mactan area? Would really like to know if anyone tried this path before.[/QUOTE]I live in Korea. And Korean girls aren't quite as fussy as the other fella mentioned. I'm over 30 and fat. And have no trouble with the local ladies. Two things though. You NEED to speak Korean well to get anywhere with MOST Korean women. Korean women generally don't do one night stands. I had a couple of one nighters with Korean women in the Phils. But never in Korea. So I guess they're more likely to do that on vacation. Generally. Girls who smoke are your best bet. The saying here is 'if she smokes, she pokes." The idea being that if a girl breaks the social taboo about women smoking, then she might break other taboos like one night stands.

My advice. There's a reason why Korean men go the Phils to monger! Unless you can pick up the language, stick with the locals!

Happy hunting!

Guys,

I am looking to visit the Philippines and Thailand over 2 weeks time, starting next week. I need to work remotely. Can I bank on reliable internet from 8am. 5pm in any of the best hotels in Cebu or do they all experience Internet and / or power outages daily? If that is the case, I may stick to Manila.

Kyle

[QUOTE=Kyle Fox; 1158914]Guys,

I am looking to visit the Philippines and Thailand over 2 weeks time, starting next week. I need to work remotely. Can I bank on reliable internet from 8am. 5pm in any of the best hotels in Cebu or do they all experience Internet and / or power outages daily? If that is the case, I may stick to Manila.

Kyle[/QUOTE]All of the better hotels in Cebu and Bangkok seem to have reliable internet I. E, Hilton, Radisson, Marriott, etc in both cities. Generators kick in quickly if there is a power outage and assuming you're using a laptop a dongle in your USB, Globe Tatoo works for me in Cebu, or SmartBro makes for a decent backup.

LOL. Brother Cebu is not "the sticks", it's the 2nd largest city in Philippines. The internet and the women are just fine in Cebu.

Plus, you sound like a newbie. In Cebu you probably won't get "taken" as often as Manila.

Enjoy

[QUOTE=Kyle Fox; 1158914]Guys,

I am looking to visit the Philippines and Thailand over 2 weeks time, starting next week. I need to work remotely. Can I bank on reliable internet from 8am. 5pm in any of the best hotels in Cebu or do they all experience Internet and / or power outages daily? If that is the case, I may stick to Manila.

Kyle[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Suwon; 1158859]I live in Korea. And Korean girls aren't quite as fussy as the other fella mentioned. I'm over 30 and fat. And have no trouble with the local ladies. Two things though. You NEED to speak Korean well to get anywhere with MOST Korean women. Korean women generally don't do one night stands. I had a couple of one nighters with Korean women in the Phils. But never in Korea. So I guess they're more likely to do that on vacation. Generally. Girls who smoke are your best bet. The saying here is 'if she smokes, she pokes." The idea being that if a girl breaks the social taboo about women smoking, then she might break other taboos like one night stands.

My advice. There's a reason why Korean men go the Phils to monger! Unless you can pick up the language, stick with the locals!

Happy hunting! [/QUOTE]Actually, Korean women aren't bad at all for one night stands. Often that's what offered a lot more than any kind of relationship because she doesn't want the questions and social stigma that comes with dating a foreigner. What do you think happens at Korean booking clubs?

If you do well at your age and weight, congrats but you are the definitive exception, rather than the rule, and we won't get into the quality of the women you may snag. Generally speaking, almost every K girl dating a foreigner I've seen is very much of a plain jane (or worse). If you're the exception again, congrats.

Otherwise I fully agree with your post. Speaking Korean helps exponentially and your odds are much better when they're on vacation outside of Korea (which is the case with all women actually of all nationalities). I'd think a place like Boracay would be much better than Cebu for such purposes.

[QUOTE=Mattrick;1158411]Jaguar is back open and was only closed a few days. Yes Arena would be another option in Cebu City. Would not make a special trip to Mermaid unless you were already in Lapu2x as the place can be hit or miss. A hit if the Koreans / Japanese have not been there yet! Have you tried I. B. C?[/QUOTE]Jaguar was still closed last time I went there and I am told is still closed.

What do you know that I do not know? Is there a new jaguar. Can I go direct to the boarding house now?

[url]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/breaking-news/2011/05/27/cebu-ktv-bar-ordered-closed-157845[/url]

I do not think it will reopen soon

AKA: Happy Hunting Ground? Arriving this week, info much appreciated. Also, is there anyplace that is more scummy / sleazy than Colon / Jonquiera? Did someone mention something about street action on a port road? Just askin. .

Elwoody

3rd largest. Davao is larger then cebu.

[QUOTE=Cheapy; 1158946]LOL. Brother Cebu is not "the sticks", it's the 2nd largest city in Philippines. The internet and the women are just fine in Cebu.

Plus, you sound like a newbie. In Cebu you probably won't get "taken" as often as Manila.

Enjoy[/QUOTE]

[quote=frenzy3;1159536]jaguar was still closed last time i went there and i am told is still closed.[/quote][quote=frenzy3]i do not think it will reopen soon[/quote]one of my peeps who used to work there told me they were back in business.

sorry about that as i will scold her!

nice timely article, thanks for the link! wonder where the 100+ girls work now! ?

[quote=mc don]3rd largest. davao is larger then cebu.[/quote]actually, davao city is one of the largest cities in the world; in area!

metro cebu city including mandaue and lapu-lapu is over 2 million, second largest!

[quote=mattrick; 1160636]one of my peeps who used to work there told me they were back in business.

sorry about that as i will scold her!

nice timely article, thanks for the link! wonder where the 100+ girls work now! ? [/quote]i am told some went infinity, i found a few at love city, but i wish they open the boarding house. give gate3 a run for its money.

[QUOTE=Mc Don;1160153]3rd largest. Davao is larger then cebu.[/QUOTE]If you're going by Metro Politian Areas, Manila is number 1, Cebu is number 2, and Davao is number 3. If you are going by individual Cities Davao is number 3 and Cebu is number four.

1) Quezon City: Population. 2,679, 450 2) Manila: Population. 1,660, 714, Caloocan: 1, 378, 856, Davao: 1, 464, 301, and Cebu: 798, 809

[QUOTE=Billb520; 1160921]If you're going by Metro Politian Areas, Manila is number 1, Cebu is number 2, and Davao is number 3. If you are going by individual Cities Davao is number 3 and Cebu is number four.

1) Quezon City: Population. 2,679, 450 2) Manila: Population. 1,660, 714, Caloocan: 1, 378, 856, Davao: 1, 464, 301, and Cebu: 798, 809[/QUOTE]This has all the ingredients for becoming a full-blown, nit-picking argument; all over the population of a few Filipino cities.

Some of you guys have way too much time on your hands LOL
(BTW, I am not joining the argument nor trying to start a new one hehehe)

Who f*king cares which city is larger in population and size? The main points of any argument in PI should be where the nice girls to bang, nice but affordable hotels, and good but cheap restaurants are!

Shit you guys sound like a bunch of chatty-pissed off pinays!

Like Red Kilt says, you guys have tooooo much free time. All this wasted time should be invested on our main goal as mongers to. Get laid!

When you fly over a city at night, the entire built up, lit up area, is the main determiner re size.

Cebu, including its suburbs, from Talisay to Compostela and Mactan Island, make it #2.

Davao is MUCH smaller and most importantly, has far fewer eligible girl options than Cebu.

Thank you for the advice on hotels. Had two great nights in Cebu. Did DIA girls and one "GF" that I have trained from zero to deep penetration. Hotel Elisabeth was simple but sufficient. Strategic location close to the big church and the good bars at "Mango". A newfound mate showed me to Pump and the sexy girls where in abundance. Just so much better than Davao (where I normally hang) IMHO. More girls, easier to deal with (to get the panties off) , not so religious and conservative and most of all the girls are generally prettier. Saw several slim and available girls at Pump. Had one DIA girl visiting me and she is just such a cock addicted teen. Not super pretty but god she just fucked and sucked with such passion, gagging included. We had agreed on the price and she did not continue just to get a tip. She was just a cock addict. A punk rocker nympho. She told me that she does gang bangs with her Italian boyfriend. She would just sit there on her knees in the shower and stare at the cock, suck it a bit and the go "I love cocks so much" and then gag on it.

Next trip to Cebu I will schedule some more nights in this resourceful city.

Barba

Nobody asks me, but I think what Questor is saying is the important issue on this board. ;)

[QUOTE=Questor 55;1161115]... and most importantly, has far fewer eligible girl options than Cebu.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Barba; 1161258]Had one DIA girl visiting me and she is just such a cock addicted teen. Not super pretty but god she just fucked and sucked with such passion, gagging included. We had agreed on the price and she did not continue just to get a tip. She was just a cock addict. A punk rocker nympho. She told me that she does gang bangs with her Italian boyfriend. She would just sit there on her knees in the shower and stare at the cock, suck it a bit and the go "I love cocks so much" and then gag on it.

Next trip to Cebu I will schedule some more nights in this resourceful city.

Barba[/QUOTE]Wow you have a hot girl there she was easy on the eyes, it was nice to show you around we need to catch up next time you are in town.

[QUOTE=Barba;1161258]Thank you for the advice on hotels. Had two great nights in Cebu. Did DIA girls and one "GF" that I have trained from zero to deep penetration. Hotel Elisabeth was simple but sufficient. Strategic location close to the big church and the good bars at "Mango".[/QUOTE]Sounds like you are referring to the Beverly Boutique! ?

[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1161397]Wow you have a hot girl there she was easy on the eyes, it was nice to show you around we need to catch up next time you are in town.[/QUOTE]Yes, she is definitely a meet again girl. Slim and cute with a balanced personality.

Hope to catch you next trip.

B

[QUOTE=Mattrick;1161445]Sounds like you are referring to the Beverly Boutique! ?[/QUOTE]Yes, my mistake. Beverly Boutique or (previously) Eddies as someone called it.

B

[QUOTE=Questor 55; 1161115]When you fly over a city at night, the entire built up, lit up area, is the main determiner re size.

Cebu, including its suburbs, from Talisay to Compostela and Mactan Island, make it #2.

Davao is MUCH smaller and most importantly, has far fewer eligible girl options than Cebu. [/QUOTE]You seem to be talking about the island of cebu and not the city of cebu, whereas other gent was talking about the city of davao and not mindanao per se. Apples and oranges. Correct me if I am wrong. But I agree, cebu city leaves davao city for dead, in more ways than one. If you can't stand the competition in cebu city, go to Davao city, there is none, LOL.

Went there last night and I have to mention the foreigners I saw act like jerks, I was in the que with 5 of my girls and 2 guys with their bar girls decide to jump the que. Prob thinking the pina girls where just locals, the pushed their money into the cashier, I told them there was a que and the cashier gave them their money back.

We had our table inside and while dancing another on the stage guy with his barfine sits down at our table, despite we having our drinks there, we decided just to get another table.

Out side there was guys just fishing for locals at one time was 5 tables in a row with a single guy just trying to pick up girls, one was calling out to any girl even girl with their pino boy friend and you wonder why some pino boys attack foreigners.

Then some really drunk staggering foreigners walk up wanting to get in, but was turned away as one the guy was being prompt up he was legless, they came back with out him and latter one guy fell over on a local table smashing the drinks and injuring them, they then ran off, a few locals once they realized that they bolted went looking for them.

I not been there for 2 years now, my gf1 told me that prefers the local discos where foreigners are not welcome, it will be interesting to see what happens in the next 2 years.

Also.

One of the 5 guys picked up some ladyboys and started kissing mouth to mouth in public. 2 of my girls saw this and said something to me, I think they prefer not see gay men in public kissing, I also think the guy did not even relise he had ladyboys he looked drunk and dumb, he did not look gay and I had seen him trying to pick up other girls before the ladyboys sat down, to me it is quite clear which girls are freelancers there rather than sit down and not move arround go to their tables and order the girls some drinks, talk to them they are humans, if you sit and not move you will be targeted by the lady boys,

Damn I wish this site had edit.

The reason you move around is you find a lady only table, try your "luck" there, my gf1 had a guy try pick her up on her way to the CR, when you see two girls walking it does not mean that they have no dates, they do leave the table to move around, so go look at the table they go to see where they are at and watch. No one tried to talk to my girls at my table even though I had 5 girls with me, I use to go there with other local boys and their gf, if you try pick up a locals gf at a disco expect the worst,

[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1162382]Went there last night and I have to mention the foreigners I saw act like jerks, I was in the que with 5 of my girls and 2 guys with their bar girls decide to jump the que. Prob thinking the pina girls where just locals, the pushed their money into the cashier, I told them there was a que and the cashier gave them their money back.

We had our table inside and while dancing another on the stage guy with his barfine sits down at our table, despite we having our drinks there, we decided just to get another table.

Out side there was guys just fishing for locals at one time was 5 tables in a row with a single guy just trying to pick up girls, one was calling out to any girl even girl with their pino boy friend and you wonder why some pino boys attack foreigners.

Then some really drunk staggering foreigners walk up wanting to get in, but was turned away as one the guy was being prompt up he was legless, they came back with out him and latter one guy fell over on a local table smashing the drinks and injuring them, they then ran off, a few locals once they realized that they bolted went looking for them.

I not been there for 2 years now, my gf1 told me that prefers the local discos where foreigners are not welcome, it will be interesting to see what happens in the next 2 years. [/QUOTE]I thought we were all foreigners here. Whether you are on an anti foreigner rant or not, were all foreign to each other. If you are Pinoy then you sure as heck are a foreigner to most of us.

If you non Filipino then you are also a foreigner. Which actually makes you one of the ones you are ranting on about. The world has something like 190 countries according to one definition. That means 189 of them belong to a different country to yours. Lots of foreigners out there. Including you.

[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1162385]Also.

One of the 5 guys picked up some ladyboys and started kissing mouth to mouth in public. He looked drunk and dumb.[/QUOTE]Lets all tar and brush anyone different to you with some big broad strokes. Yeah nothing like a little discrimination. Not sure where you are from but presumably all the people in all your great nation (whichever it is, behave perfectly properly, never burp fart, always use correct grammar, pay with correct change, never curse a bad driver, never look with lust at another countrymans girl, always floss, always make sure belt and shoe colour match etc. Lighten up. Have a little more fun and a little less frenzy.

[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1162387]Damn I wish this site had edit.

I use to go there with other local boys and their gf, if you try pick up a locals gf at a disco expect the worst.[/QUOTE]Great info. This will be well appreciated by those who might never have been to a disco outside of their home country.

Altho of course in a great many cases, we have picked up the locals gf in a great many places, done them, made a contribution and then let the local boy have sloppy seconds. . LOL. Guess you might want to forewarn the local boys. Extra large LOL.

Went there last night and I have to mention the foreigners I saw act like jerks, I was in the que with 5 of my girls and 2 guys with their bar girls decide to jump the que. Prob thinking the pina girls where just locals, the pushed their money into the cashier, I told them there was a que and the cashier gave them their money back.

We had our table inside and while dancing on the stage some foreigner guy with his barfine sits down at our table, despite us having our drinks there, we decided just to get another table. So we moved to a out side table.

Out side there was guys just fishing for locals at one time was 5 tables in a row with a single guy just trying to pick up girls, one was calling out to any girl even girl with their pino boy friend and you wonder why some pino boys attack foreigners.

One of the 5 guys picked up some ladyboys and started kissing mouth to mouth in public. 2 of my girls saw this and said something to me, I think they prefer not see gay men in public kissing, I also think the guy did not even relise he had ladyboys he looked drunk and dumb, he did not look gay and I had seen him trying to pick up other girls before the ladyboys sat down, to me it is quite clear which girls are freelancers there rather than sit down and not move arround go to their tables and order the girls some drinks, talk to them they are humans, if you sit and not move you will be targeted by the lady boys,

The reason you move around is you find a lady only table, try your "luck" there, my gf1 had a guy try pick her up on her way to the CR, when you see two girls walking it does not mean that they have no dates, they do leave the table to move around, so go look at the table they go to see where they are at and watch. No one tried to talk to my girls at my table even though I had 5 girls with me, I use to go there with other local boys and their gf, if you try pick up a locals gf at a disco expect the worst,

Then some really drunk staggering foreigners walk up wanting to get in, but was turned away as one the guy was being prompt up he was legless, they came back with out him and latter one guy fell over on a local table smashing the drinks and injuring them, they then ran off, a few locals once they realized that they bolted went looking for them.

I not been there for 2 years now, my gf1 told me that prefers the local discos where foreigners are not welcome, it will be interesting to see what happens in the next 2 years.

Ps admin you can delete the other 3 post I did bellow

You can edit your posts and delete them but there is only a short window of opportunity to do so, I think it is about 1 hour. Once you submit your report, preview it and once you have edited it you can post it. Even once it is posted you can edit it or delete it during the 1 hour window. I find it surprising how many guys forget to use this function.

As regards foreigners picking up girls at local discos, I don't think it is such a minefield as you suggest provided you are not rude, not drunk and keep your conversation polite. It you make eye contact with a girl and smile, if she has a bf in tow she will normally not reciprocate. If you do talk to her and you are not sure about her status then just keep the conversation that you initiate polite and bland so that it cannot be construed as hitting on the girl. Sadly some foreigners do think and act like they are superior to everyone else and sometimes behave like morons. I once had the misfortune of meeting such a guy myself but soon offloaded him.

[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1162382]Went there last night and I have to mention the foreigners I saw act like jerks, I was in the que with 5 of my girls and 2 guys with their bar girls decide to jump the que. Prob thinking the pina girls where just locals, the pushed their money into the cashier, I told them there was a que and the cashier gave them their money back.[/quote]To be fair if you visit Julianas on a regular basis you will always see a handful of young woman hanging out talking with the cashier, and they do this because the Korean owner sits right behind the cashier and most of the girls are hoping to catch his eye and be called over to his table. He sits there most nights before midnight watching discreetly who goes in and possibly making sure that everyone pays the entrance fee.

[quote]We had our table inside and while dancing another on the stage guy with his barfine sits down at our table, despite we having our drinks there, we decided just to get another table.

Out side there was guys just fishing for locals at one time was 5 tables in a row with a single guy just trying to pick up girls, one was calling out to any girl even girl with their pino boy friend and you wonder why some pino boys attack foreigners.

Then some really drunk staggering foreigners walk up wanting to get in, but was turned away as one the guy was being prompt up he was legless, they came back with out him and latter one guy fell over on a local table smashing the drinks and injuring them, they then ran off, a few locals once they realized that they bolted went looking for them.

I not been there for 2 years now, my gf1 told me that prefers the local discos where foreigners are not welcome, it will be interesting to see what happens in the next 2 years. [/QUOTE]I agree things have changed alot in the past few years for the worse both around Mango and in Cebu City. Gone are the days when a foreigner walks around and gets that "surprised look" that now exisists only outside major cities and into the provinces.

Too many drunken idiots around for sure and those who do not treat everyone with respect will one day figure out the hard way when they step on the toes of someone who is connected just how cheap life can be in the Philippines. Either they will wake up beaten some where because they were rude drunken idiots and tried to pickup a woman and her BF and his friends decide to teach the guy a lesson. Maybe the girl you just promised to marry then dumped after banging her silly for the last week gets her uncle who is PNP to make a search of your bags at the airport and finds planted shabu and you will be facing serious jail time.

I am surprised more foreigners don't end up that way for there bad behavior, but most of the time locals treat the foreigners with respect and often look the other way when they act rude or misbehave. But attitudes and patience is wearing thin.

You wondered what Cebu will be like in two years, my guess is it will all change. With the 30+ condo towers already planned and alot more to be proposed before the condo deadline 3 yrs from now comes into effect things will look very different. Even Mango will change with the addition of the massive Horizon101 twin 58 story towers to be built next to Mango Square.

[QUOTE=Mortman;1162401]You can edit your posts and delete them but there is only a short window of opportunity to do so, I think it is about 1 hour. Once you submit your report, preview it and once you have edited it you can post it. Even once it is posted you can edit it or delete it during the 1 hour window. I find it surprising how many guys forget to use this function.[/quote]To the best of my knowledge a regular member can not edit there post, only senior members can. A regular member can post but it will not show up until it has been viewed by a moderator and cleared, hence the confusion and multiple posts for some regular members when they do not see the message posted right away.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1162408]To the best of my knowledge a regular member can not edit there post, only senior members can. A regular member can post but it will not show up until it has been viewed by a moderator and cleared, hence the confusion and multiple posts for some regular members when they do not see the message posted right away.[/QUOTE]Yes you are correct my mistake

Realizing that everyone does not have English as a first language could we try to use some basic writing skills. Examples are periods, commas, and capitol letters at the beginning of a sentence. I don't believe these are english rules of grammar only. It is really hard to read a paragraph that is one sentence.

Ok, now you can fire away

[QUOTE=Mackin; 1162506]Realizing that everyone does not have English as a first language could we try to use some basic writing skills. Examples are periods, commas, and capitol letters at the beginning of a sentence. I don't believe these are english rules of grammar only. It is really hard to read a paragraph that is one sentence.

Ok, now you can fire away[/QUOTE]Mackin.

You might want to start with yourself. The word 'capitol' used in the context above should be spelt as 'capital', the word 'english' should be capitalised as 'English' and the word 'realizing' should be spelt as 'realising' (unless of course you are American where slightly different rules of spelling apply). I have never heard of the word 'period' in the context of grammar, only as an excuse from a bar girl who did not want to be bf'd!

[QUOTE=Mackin; 1162506]Realizing that everyone does not have English as a first language could we try to use some basic writing skills. Examples are periods, commas, and capitol letters at the beginning of a sentence. I don't believe these are english rules of grammar only. It is really hard to read a paragraph that is one sentence.

Ok, now you can fire away[/QUOTE]Apart from misspelling "capitol", you should also have put a comma after language and a question mark at the end of your first sentence.

[QUOTE=Mortman; 1162686]Mackin.

You might want to start with yourself. The word 'capitol' used in the context above should be spelt as 'capital', the word 'english' should be capitalised as 'English' and the word 'realizing' should be spelt as 'realising' (unless of course you are American where slightly different rules of spelling apply). I have never heard of the word 'period' in the context of grammar, only as an excuse from a bar girl who did not want to be bf'd! [/QUOTE]An Americanism (is there such a word?) for what we frenzied foreigners might otherwise might know as a full stop. That little dot that separates sentences.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1162742]Apart from misspelling "capitol", you should also have put a comma after language and a question mark at the end of your first sentence.[/QUOTE]And, he should have capitalized English, which is a proper noun.

All you nit-pickers should test your English skills and enter a spelling bee! :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1162394]I not been there for 2 years now, my gf1 told me that prefers the local discos where foreigners are not welcome, it will be interesting to see what happens in the next 2 years.[/QUOTE]If you did not like Juliana, check out Auto Shop across the way. Filipino owned and operated with better beats and sound system IMHO. Top notch security and the food is decent too. They also own the KTV next door so you can have some quiet time with the girls!

Ok, I made a few mistakes as I was typing fast. This has nothing to do with using a period at the end of a sentence. A capital letter at the beginning of a sentence. It does have to do with making a long paragraph into one sentence. Much easier to understand if those are used.

Also someone never heard of put a period at the end of a sentence when they were in school. Amazing. Otherwise I stand corrected

Should have use the word punctuation instead of grammar. Now we are finished

Mackin.

"You might want to start with yourself. The word 'capitol' used in the context above should be spelt as 'capital', the word 'english' should be capitalised as 'English' and the word 'realizing' should be spelt as 'realising' (unless of course you are American where slightly different rules of spelling apply). I have never heard of the word 'period' in the context of grammar, only as an excuse from a bar girl who did not want to be bf'd!"

I love it when someone corrects another and then comes up with a great new word of their own. SPELT is a word, however, it means a kind of wheat species and therefore will pass a dictionary check. Check it out in Wkikpedia. However, within the context used here, the correct word should have been SPELLED, which is the past tense of spell. Just thought I'd put in my 2 pesos.

I really enjoy the banter going here and have learned a whole lot from all of your experiences and escapades.

"The past tense and past participle of spell (only in the word-related sense) can be either irregular (spelt) or regular (spelled). British English allows both irregular and regular forms. In American English, the irregular forms are never or hardly ever used."

It is even funnier still when someone contributes his 'two pesos' and still gets it wrong!

Anyway should we not be getting back to more serious issues like mongering?

You guys are killing me. Pah-leeeze get back to the knowledge sharing in Cebu.

(I agree, however, the instant messaging and tweeting crap is dumbing down the entire language, UK or USA, notwithstanding; and it's difficult to read if one has more than a 4th grade education.)

But this forum is about fun stories that advance the cause of mongering. Here, in Cebu. I did not get back to Cebu this year and I'm still living on memories of last year. So every detailed story of Mango Square is gold.

Let's get back on target, Mongers.

Jack

[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1162394]Went there last night and I have to mention the foreigners I saw act like jerks, I was in the que with 5 of my girls and 2 guys with their bar girls decide to jump the que. Prob thinking the pina girls where just locals, the pushed their money into the cashier, I told them there was a que and the cashier gave them their money back.

We had our table inside and while dancing on the stage some foreigner guy with his barfine sits down at our table, despite us having our drinks there, we decided just to get another table. So we moved to a out side table.

Out side there was guys just fishing for locals at one time was 5 tables in a row with a single guy just trying to pick up girls, one was calling out to any girl even girl with their pino boy friend and you wonder why some pino boys attack foreigners.

One of the 5 guys picked up some ladyboys and started kissing mouth to mouth in public. 2 of my girls saw this and said something to me, I think they prefer not see gay men in public kissing, I also think the guy did not even relise he had ladyboys he looked drunk and dumb, he did not look gay and I had seen him trying to pick up other girls before the ladyboys sat down, to me it is quite clear which girls are freelancers there rather than sit down and not move arround go to their tables and order the girls some drinks, talk to them they are humans, if you sit and not move you will be targeted by the lady boys,

The reason you move around is you find a lady only table, try your "luck" there, my gf1 had a guy try pick her up on her way to the CR, when you see two girls walking it does not mean that they have no dates, they do leave the table to move around, so go look at the table they go to see where they are at and watch. No one tried to talk to my girls at my table even though I had 5 girls with me, I use to go there with other local boys and their gf, if you try pick up a locals gf at a disco expect the worst,

Then some really drunk staggering foreigners walk up wanting to get in, but was turned away as one the guy was being prompt up he was legless, they came back with out him and latter one guy fell over on a local table smashing the drinks and injuring them, they then ran off, a few locals once they realized that they bolted went looking for them.

I not been there for 2 years now, my gf1 told me that prefers the local discos where foreigners are not welcome, it will be interesting to see what happens in the next 2 years.

Ps admin you can delete the other 3 post I did bellow[/QUOTE]I was there briefly last week and this post brings back all the memories. Hell hole

I've just had a week in Cebu City, and Mactan. Here are a few notes.

I stay a few nights at a hotel here, and a hotel there, so I can truthfully say to my chat-mate (s) for that day that I have either just arrived or am leaving tomorrow. I am not into P4P. Usually I stay at Beverly Boutique Hotel, Dynasty, Montebello Villa Hotel, or Kiwi Lodge.

At the Beverly (previously called Eddies) it is always a good welcome from Peggy, April, and the team. The free inclusive breakfast if booked online (Agoda) is nothing to write home about. It's very convenient to local spots. Lone Star is just around the corner, the Maxilom clubs only 100 metres away, and Ayala and Robinsons a 10-15 minute walk away. And it's great to have free WiFi in the rooms.

Kiwi Lodge is getting a little tired hat for me. Friendly staff, but there are a few non resident customers who seem to own their particular bar stools and pretty intolerant to visitors. The rooms (I had a De Luxe for 1350p) are getting a little tired, noisy air con, old tv set, no or marginal wifi, and someone's old breakfast tray remained uncollected outside the door for the whole day. But I must confess the 'Australian lamb shanks' are a menu draw card for me.

I had a couple of nights at the girl-friendly Park Hill Hotel in Mactan, very reasonably priced at about 1000p, tucked in behind the Days Hotel near the airport and a walking distance from Marina SaveMore and a host of nice nearby restaurants.

In Mactan the Magellan's Landing Bar and Restaurant seems to be the focus for many expat residents. On Maxilom El Gecko is under new ownership and has been revamped, with a small regular clientele.

My new discovery this trip was 'Our Place', in Cogon, on the corner of Sanciangko and Pelaez Streets, this is a small pub with good (Goodenough may disagree!) western (uk) food. It is now owned by a father-son Welsh team. There is a nice atmosphere there (but without air conditioning) and with many locals dropping in. It is open till 11pm. This place is one street off Colon Street and just a block and a half from the infamous Junquera basketball court and the Junquera 'chicks'. I know it has been the topic of recent debate in this forum but I would say there is plenty of casual choice in the locality. In walking with my chat-mate from Our Place into the night market on Colon Street and around the block at last a dozen 'chicks' were giving me the come-on eye, but not tempted.

One last snippet, I was able to negotiate 4 packets of Viagra and 4 of Cialis (standard 4 tablets) from the touts outside Robinson's Mall for a total of 1000p for the 8 packets. But my most arousing purchase was 10 tablets in a bottle of a Chinese herbal product called 'Happy Time'. I am wondering if I am become dulled to V and C, but Happy Time, for 400p really left me upstanding! With a regular 19 year old chat mate (nearly 50 years my junior!) last night she nudged me at 2am, after an earlier session, and bingo I was up and coming in minutes. 'Too quick' she said. I was prepared to roll over and go to sleep but after some wonderful oral administration I was up and at it for at least another 30 minutes. All positions and she kept wanting more and in the end I couldn't make it but she said it was three times for her! I will soon find out if it was just a one off 'Happy Time' experience!

KongKing

[QUOTE=KongKing; 1165328]I've just had a week in Cebu City, and Mactan. Here are a few notes.

I stay a few nights at a hotel here, and a hotel there, so I can truthfully say to my chat-mate (s) for that day that I have either just arrived or am leaving tomorrow. I am not into P4P. Usually I stay at Beverly Boutique Hotel, Dynasty, Montebello Villa Hotel, or Kiwi Lodge.

At the Beverly (previously called Eddies) it is always a good welcome from Peggy, April, and the team. The free inclusive breakfast if booked online (Agoda) is nothing to write home about. It's very convenient to local spots. Lone Star is just around the corner, the Maxilom clubs only 100 metres away, and Ayala and Robinsons a 10-15 minute walk away. And it's great to have free WiFi in the rooms.

Kiwi Lodge is getting a little tired hat for me. Friendly staff, but there are a few non resident customers who seem to own their particular bar stools and pretty intolerant to visitors. The rooms (I had a De Luxe for 1350p) are getting a little tired, noisy air con, old tv set, no or marginal wifi, and someone's old breakfast tray remained uncollected outside the door for the whole day. But I must confess the 'Australian lamb shanks' are a menu draw card for me.

I had a couple of nights at the girl-friendly Park Hill Hotel in Mactan, very reasonably priced at about 1000p, tucked in behind the Days Hotel near the airport and a walking distance from Marina SaveMore and a host of nice nearby restaurants.

In Mactan the Magellan's Landing Bar and Restaurant seems to be the focus for many expat residents. On Maxilom El Gecko is under new ownership and has been revamped, with a small regular clientele.

My new discovery this trip was 'Our Place', in Cogon, on the corner of Sanciangko and Pelaez Streets, this is a small pub with good (Goodenough may disagree!) western (uk) food. It is now owned by a father-son Welsh team. There is a nice atmosphere there (but without air conditioning) and with many locals dropping in. It is open till 11pm. This place is one street off Colon Street and just a block and a half from the infamous Junquera basketball court and the Junquera 'chicks'. I know it has been the topic of recent debate in this forum but I would say there is plenty of casual choice in the locality. In walking with my chat-mate from Our Place into the night market on Colon Street and around the block at last a dozen 'chicks' were giving me the come-on eye, but not tempted.

One last snippet, I was able to negotiate 4 packets of Viagra and 4 of Cialis (standard 4 tablets) from the touts outside Robinson's Mall for a total of 1000p for the 8 packets. But my most arousing purchase was 10 tablets in a bottle of a Chinese herbal product called 'Happy Time'. I am wondering if I am become dulled to V and C, but Happy Time, for 400p really left me upstanding! With a regular 19 year old chat mate (nearly 50 years my junior!) last night she nudged me at 2am, after an earlier session, and bingo I was up and coming in minutes. 'Too quick' she said. I was prepared to roll over and go to sleep but after some wonderful oral administration I was up and at it for at least another 30 minutes. All positions and she kept wanting more and in the end I couldn't make it but she said it was three times for her! I will soon find out if it was just a one off 'Happy Time' experience!

KongKing[/QUOTE]Is Robinsons mall open now? It was still closed in May when I was in Cebu city.

[QUOTE=Mayntain;1165369]Is Robinsons mall open now? It was still closed in May when I was in Cebu city.[/QUOTE]Several chatmates in fuente say its open.

[QUOTE=KongKing; 1165328]! I will soon find out if it was just a one off 'Happy Time' experience!

KongKing[/QUOTE]Where did you buy the Happy Time meds?

[QUOTE=Nolz7;1165454]Where did you buy the Happy Time meds?[/QUOTE]I bought a box, containing a bottle with 10 tablets from one of those parasitic street vendors on or near the footbridge at Robinsons, Osmenia Circle. They generally sell viagra or cialis, but this guy had a shoulder bag obviously with a good supply.

However you should be able to buy it elsewhere. For instance I discovered a non-prescription pharmacy in Cagayan de Oro called Boticas (next to Coras 3 on Rizal Street) that sells "Happy Time" for 420p per bottle. I don't think you would get it at Rose, Watsons, or Mercury Drugs but try the alternative medicine shops.

See photos.

KongKing

There's been another American citizen murder in downtown Cebu Hotel, hoping he's not a fellow monger.

Seriously, you've never heard that a period is what goes at the end of a sentence? Which 'King's English' are you referring to? The King of the jungle? We prefer the more refined American English on here anyway 'mate. '

[QUOTE=Tazdevil; 1163007]Mackin.

"You might want to start with yourself. The word 'capitol' used in the context above should be spelt as 'capital', the word 'english' should be capitalised as 'English' and the word 'realizing' should be spelt as 'realising' (unless of course you are American where slightly different rules of spelling apply). I have never heard of the word 'period' in the context of grammar, only as an excuse from a bar girl who did not want to be bf'd!"

I love it when someone corrects another and then comes up with a great new word of their own. SPELT is a word, however, it means a kind of wheat species and therefore will pass a dictionary check. Check it out in Wkikpedia. However, within the context used here, the correct word should have been SPELLED, which is the past tense of spell. Just thought I'd put in my 2 pesos.

I really enjoy the banter going here and have learned a whole lot from all of your experiences and escapades. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1166450]Seriously, you've never heard that a period is what goes at the end of a sentence? Which 'King's English' are you referring to? The King of the jungle? We prefer the more refined American English on here anyway 'mate. '[/QUOTE]Using "refined" and "american" in one single sentence! Wow

I actually learned something from all this good natured grammar banter. A period is what we English call a full stop, although I have never in my life before heard a full stop referred to in this way. It just goes to show that although English is sometimes known as the 'universal language' it is used by various nationalities in different ways to the point were we sometimes do not understand each other.

I have never actually heard of the description 'King's English' since we have not had a male monarch in the UK since the early 1950s. I was always brought up with and schooled using the term 'Queen's English'.

Maybe the original poster is a lot older than me, since I was born after the Queen's coronation (God bless her).

By the way Tazdevil has been very silent since trying to (wrongly) correct my English. My guess he is a non-native speaker who dosen't quite understand the complexity of the English language and he certainly didn't do his research as extensively as he should have done, before throwing his "2 pesos worth" in.

Oh and Fredje1961, if you are going to poke fun at others, make sure you capitalise (capitalise spelt the English way with an s instead of a z) the word American. Furthermore Tazdevil, 'spelt' and the word 'spelled' are both grammatically correct according to UK English.

Seriously guys what does it matter if we make a spelling mistake here or there, so long as the post is readable and makes sense it shouldn't matter especially since many posters are not native English speakers...........now let me think should I have used a question mark after that last sentence........hmmmmmmm?

[QUOTE=Gaijin Gigolo;1166450]Seriously, you've never heard that a period is what goes at the end of a sentence? Which 'King's English' are you referring to? The King of the jungle? We prefer the more refined American English on here anyway 'mate. '[/QUOTE]One assumes that one is speaking for oneself sunshine.

Personally I have a preference for English. Prease note that the language is called English, in honour of the great nation of England, the dominant member of Great Britain.

There is no such language as American English.

There is a language with periods, sidewalks, fanny packs and other peculiarities however they are not English terms. Therefor the language of which you speak (not which you speak of, for you should never end a sentence with a preposition) is a bastardised version of English. A copy language so to speak. LOL

[QUOTE=Bingo 143;1166310]There's been another American citizen murder in downtown Cebu Hotel, hoping he's not a fellow monger.[/QUOTE]Can you provide the link to the news article?

You sure he wasn't an Israeli? Read about it in today's paper here in Cebu. Said he was frequently visited by diverse females. The police are checking the hotel work force just in case it might be an "inside job".

[QUOTE=Bingo 143;1166310]There's been another American citizen murder in downtown Cebu Hotel, hoping he's not a fellow monger.[/QUOTE]Your more likely to get murdered downtown than uptown.

Downtown covers Palaez, Sangcianko, Jonquerra areas, Colon and southern side of Colon. Cheap accommodation down that way isn't worth it. Unless you like residing amongst cockroaches, rats and pimps.

Whether victim is a Monger or not is irrelevant. If he is a person harming no one, that is enough. Perhaps he was being supplied girls by the pimps and they decided to take him out. If you seem foolish to those people, pimps, you can invite trouble. They can be a mercenary lot. They certainly are towards the girls.

Perhaps murdered chap read all that fantasy stuff by newbies, in this thread LOL, and checked in downtown? Hope not.

I agree with FreebieFan, the millions and millions of us pseudo-English speakers who don't speak the Queens Englisn, nor Beckman's English, nor Beatle English should forever pay homage to that small, rain-soaked island country west of Europe. We owe them a lot.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1166623]One assumes that one is speaking for oneself sunshine.

Personally I have a preference for English. Prease note that the language is called English, in honour of the great nation of England, the dominant member of Great Britain.

There is no such language as American English.

There is a language with periods, sidewalks, fanny packs and other peculiarities however they are not English terms. Therefor the language of which you speak (not which you speak of, for you should never end a sentence with a preposition) is a bastardised version of English. A copy language so to speak. LOL[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=David_33;1166670]You sure he wasn't an Israeli? Read about it in today's paper here in Cebu. Said he was frequently visited by diverse females. The police are checking the hotel work force just in case it might be an "inside job".[/QUOTE]He was 75 no sign of injury just all his stuff stolen. He was here a few months and has been dead for a while. Still safe in Cebu

[QUOTE=KongKing; 1165328]One last snippet, I was able to negotiate 4 packets of Viagra and 4 of Cialis (standard 4 tablets) from the touts outside Robinson's Mall for a total of 1000p for the 8 packets. But my most arousing purchase was 10 tablets in a bottle of a Chinese herbal product called 'Happy Time'. I am wondering if I am become dulled to V and C, but Happy Time, for 400p really left me upstanding! With a regular 19 year old chat mate (nearly 50 years my junior!) last night she nudged me at 2am, after an earlier session, and bingo I was up and coming in minutes. 'Too quick' she said. I was prepared to roll over and go to sleep but after some wonderful oral administration I was up and at it for at least another 30 minutes. All positions and she kept wanting more and in the end I couldn't make it but she said it was three times for her! I will soon find out if it was just a one off 'Happy Time' experience!

KongKing[/QUOTE]Another vote for happy time, after reading this I got some and it works without any side effects

I have just read three pages of posts on the Davao thread, and five pages on the Cebu thread. I have found out about restaurants, the Queen's English, the internet and countless other random topics, but FUCK ALL about girls. Might just as well be reading the Lonely Planet.

[QUOTE=Yiddo;1167843]I have just read three pages of posts on the Davao thread, and five pages on the Cebu thread. I have found out about restaurants, the Queen's English, the internet and countless other random topics, but FUCK ALL about girls. Might just as well be reading the Lonely Planet.[/QUOTE]Ask a question then.

What do you need to know?

I will be happy to answer. I will be surprised if it has not already been dealt with on here but we can give you an update anyway

I saw the same complaint posted on the Davao thread. I guess those of us who live here and know some of the cities reasonably well get tired with the endlessly reiterated instructions on where to find women. If you had read back more than three pages-which must have taken you all of five minutes-you might have found what you were looking for. Barba for one has written extensively about the street scene in Davao and others have written about the clubs. As RK has stated, had you bothered to raise specific questions rather than whine about what you were unable to find after your perfunctory search, you would doubtless have received some answers.

On the other hand, I can understand the frustration, given that this site is called a sex guide, so in the interests of fairness, here's some general information on Davao:

1. The commercial sex scene here is neither as extensive nor as obvious as in Manila or Cebu. Though there are several P4P clubs, there are not nearly as many as in the aforementioned two cities. Conversely, Davao is probably the most fertile hunting ground I've ever seen for meeting semi-pros and "gifted amateurs."

2. The most well-known clubs are the Hot Legs trio. That is, Hot Legs 1, 2, and 3 all of which are located within the center of the city. Of the three, Hot Legs 2 on San Pedro St. Is arguably the best, though Hot Legs 3, located just off Rizal St. Is probably the least sleazy.

3. Plaza Roman on Cabaguio St. Includes a couple of bars, a massage establishment, a KTV and a short-time hotel at the back. It's safe, usually full of women and you can remain on site in a VIP or short-time hotel room or pick a lady for dalliance at your hotel of choice.

4. There are probably 30-35 bars packed into a short strip on Torres St. Opposite the Holiday Spa. These are not, strictly speaking, FL bars, but they do get packed with semi-pros and students looking for tuition help on the weekends. Likewise, Bar 183 on Rizal St. And Someplace Else, in the Habana Compound on Rizal are likely venues for the same sort. There are also bars in the Auto Shop complex just off Bajada Road. Where you're likely, at least on the week-ends, to meet women in the mood and in the market for a casual romp in exchange for money.

5. I have never, in the 8 years that I've lived here, taken advantage of the street scene, but there's quite an active one. Lots of the SWs concentrate in the area around People's Park. For specific locations, check out some of Barba's posts on the subject as he's done extensive research.

This is also a town that's packed with colleges, and, during the week days, you can always find students in the eateries, coffee shops and small stores around the campuses of Ateneo, Davao's Doctors College and others throughout the city.

For reasons that I've stated often, I don't play in my own zip code, so it's been quite a while since I've been to the clubs. According to my friends who are frequent habitués of these places, nothing much has changed since my more active days, and the scene is as I've described it. I have no idea what the bar fines and related prices are, but others in this forum surely do.

GE

Yiddo.

Maybe you make a valid comment however I always say "let he who is without sin cast the first stone"

You have made 3 other posts with similar comments, and many other of your remaining 43 posts have been about hotels, flights or observations and responses to other posters.

I like some of the banter that goes on here, I find it quite entertaining and it is relatively easy to use the search function to find what you are looking for.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1167886]4. There are probably 30-35 bars packed into a short strip on Torres St. Opposite the Holiday Spa. These are not, strictly speaking, FL bars, but they do get packed with semi-pros and students looking for tuition help on the weekends.

GE[/QUOTE]GE, I do not want to bring an extensive discussion about Davao into the Cebu thread, but in all fairness there is a huge difference today and say 3-4 years ago. The licker ban with the closed Torres "clubs" seems to be a marker in history as well. Places are definably not packed. Anything but a weekend, Davao is more or less a ghost town. As someone said. A village disco of Thailand beats the main attraction in Davao any given day. Saturday there will be a hand full of "GRO:s" in Evibe@Torres but apart from this, the girls are actually not trowing themselves at you by any means. Not seldom you need to work on your game and expect visits to the beach and / or the parents to have any form of quality punani. I think it can be deceptive to live in Davao and see all of these girls, but once you try to have a continuous flow of action you soon hit the stop signs over and over again. GE, you have seen the amount of money I fuck away in a couple of weeks, and this is an indicator of why I have a fair success rate in Davao. Conservative girls wishing you Gods bless, is more likely than girls throwing juiced up knickers at you.

Davao is laid back and a has a nice, provincial touch but we got to be fair and talk about this city for what it is. Where else (apart from maybe CDO) would you have a handsome guys in his mid 30:s in the head attraction of davao, walking up to Barba asking if any of the four girls present perhaps could be a working girl (this was one of the two top clubs that Friday night we had dinner att DBK)? Out of the four girls present, non was available for p4p. He had been in town for three days and since he did not do street walkers, he had not been laid once! The four girls where another team of girls dancing in a square with their pinoy men drinking beer behind them. Just out of interest I took several drives down and around Tlonko street that is the hunting ground for street walkers under 25 years (not Peoples Park where you mostly find more mature females and ladyboys). Normally 6-8 tattooed gang-girls sitting close to Central bank but no girls on the side streets as there used to be. There are always 2-3 ugly ones at the end of Rizal and some drugged out wreck on San Pedro. The girls that used to hang around Victoria and Gaisano seem gone. Can anyone tell me what is going on with Davao? Is the finical crisis that bad? Maybe we move this to the Davao thread.

One newfound friend asked me if it was normal for Davao when his suggestion for a happy ending in a seedy massage establishment was met with a "maybe if you come again tomorrow I will do it". He is used to Pattaya, so no more comments needed.

I would say that one should come prepared to Davao. Either prepared with names and numbers or with good walking shoes for scouting the malls. There is not much of fall back plans to talk about. The mentioned bars and massage places normally will have mostly wash outs from Manila and Cebu, together with one provincial young diamond if you are lucky. GE the picture you paint of an abundance of smiling and willing girls, would make me very happy and I do not want to be a spoiler, but Davao as I know it is mainly a city for normal and often slow moving girlfriend-boyfriend relations. You can have many girlfriends, and there is freedom in the relations of course, but it is still not anything close to walking in to a bar packed with 20-30 teens that will fuck you ten minutes after you donated your 1700 pesos.

Before I go on, I will invite other opinions from recent visitors. Sometimes we get fed up or home blind, but so many guys I met the last two years where disappointed with Davao. The last guy I met when we where leaving Davao, said that he had spent a few days and did not see once single pretty girl. This was a 60+ American, so not exactly Brad Pit looking for Miss Jolie.

Sorry for being off topic in the Cebu thread.

Regards Barba

[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1166623]One assumes that one is speaking for oneself sunshine.

Personally I have a preference for English. Prease note that the language is called English, in honour of the great nation of England, the dominant member of Great Britain.

There is no such language as American English.

There is a language with periods, sidewalks, fanny packs and other peculiarities however they are not English terms. Therefor the language of which you speak (not which you speak of, for you should never end a sentence with a preposition) is a bastardised version of English. A copy language so to speak. LOL[/QUOTE]Haha! Just keep on thinking Britain is still 'Great' and that anybody outside London gives one damn about the King. Of course there is an American version of English, an Australian version, etc. Maybe you haven't been around enough to notice.

[QUOTE=Yiddo;1167843]I have just read three pages of posts on the Davao thread, and five pages on the Cebu thread. I have found out about restaurants, the Queen's English, the internet and countless other random topics, but FUCK ALL about girls. Might just as well be reading the Lonely Planet.[/QUOTE]Did you pm any one this site is a place to share info. So ask a few questions. We all know fuck all about girls. But we can help you score pussy in Cebu. Just put in your order tell us what you are after and I am sure we can help.

I for one do not post all my pussy stories as I rather not boast. I have 3 gf in Cebu, any number of fucking friends, I can get what ever look or size I want, just depends on time. I call Cebu pussy heaven.

So maybe we are to pussy out to post reviews. So just ask.

Thanks Barba. I stand corrected. I guess things have changed greatly since I used to play here.

[QUOTE=Yiddo;1167843]I have just read three pages of posts on the Davao thread, and five pages on the Cebu thread. I have found out about restaurants, the Queen's English, the internet and countless other random topics, but FUCK ALL about girls. Might just as well be reading the Lonely Planet.[/QUOTE]Thanks for bringing this to attention!

This thread used to be loaded with info but many senoir members have hijacked this and other threads and feel it is their own "Club ISG" (now did I spell "senior" correctly!?). Many have met and know each other personally but they fail to use the PM function and continually post non informative BS.

Even the venerable GoodEnough feels he has to post Davao info on the Cebu thread! :confused: How about confining nonsensical posts to the DS thread!? Maybe it boils down to to boredom but I think there is also a certain aura of arrogance and selfishness IMHO.

[QUOTE=Mattrick; 1168132]Thanks for bringing this to attention!

This thread used to be loaded with info but many senoir members have hijacked this and other threads and feel it is their own "Club ISG" (now did I spell "senior" correctly!). Many have met and know each other personally but they fail to use the PM function and continually post non informative BS.

Even the venerable GoodEnough feels he has to post Davao info on the Cebu thread! :confused: How about confining nonsensical posts to the DS thread! Maybe it boils down to to boredom but I think there is also a certain aura of arrogance and selfishness IMHO. [/QUOTE]I guess I should apologize. I don't think any of us-whether we know each other or not-meant to divert this site away from its primary purpose. However, endless discussions of the same topic, repeated endlessly do get boring and (to me) somewhat pointless when the same stuff is reiterated ad nauseum. I also apologize however, for posting Davao-related information on the wrong thread. I didn't realize it until after I had posted it.

GE

[QUOTE=Mattrick; 1168132]Thanks for bringing this to attention!

This thread used to be loaded with info but many senoir members have hijacked this and other threads and feel it is their own "Club ISG" (now did I spell "senior" correctly!). Many have met and know each other personally but they fail to use the PM function and continually post non informative BS.

Even the venerable GoodEnough feels he has to post Davao info on the Cebu thread! :confused: How about confining nonsensical posts to the DS thread! Maybe it boils down to to boredom but I think there is also a certain aura of arrogance and selfishness IMHO. [/QUOTE]I guess I should apologize. I don't think any of us-whether we know each other or not-meant to divert this site from its primary purpose. However, endless discussions of the same topic, repeated endlessly do get boring and (to me) somewhat pointless when the same stuff is reiterated ad nauseum. I also apologize however, for posting Davao-related information on the wrong thread. I didn't realize it until after I had posted it. As to "arrogance," I don't think so. I think more to the point is that a lot of us have lived here for a while and there's nothing new here for us, so we tend to address other topics in which we're interested.

GE

GE

It also the way the site is setup you can not make new threads unless you are admin. So you will see offtopic stuff posted as it is setup that way. There is a post wall of fame and you can search. So live with how it is and enjoy the pussy.

[QUOTE=Mattrick; 1168132]Thanks for bringing this to attention!

This thread used to be loaded with info but many senoir members have hijacked this and other threads and feel it is their own "Club ISG" (now did I spell "senior" correctly!). Many have met and know each other personally but they fail to use the PM function and continually post non informative BS. [/QUOTE]I am always happy to address specific questions about anything if I know the answer.

However, I dislike lazy people who come on here and ask the simplest questions without having read ANY posts at all.

As I said in another post. We have discussed every topic at some time somewhere on this board. If people want an update, then by all means ask for it.

For example? Is the barfine at Rogues still 1500 php like it was last year (or whatever)?

The best part of each thread is when guys post REPORTS of their adventures, whether in Manila, Malate, Greenbelt, Burgos, Davao or Cebu et al.

There seems to be fewer and fewer of them so far this year.

[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1168223]It also the way the site is setup you can not make new threads unless you are admin. So you will see offtopic stuff posted as it is setup that way.[/QUOTE]On the contrary, since the new format came into effect senior members can start new threads!

[QUOTE=Yiddo;1167843]I have just read three pages of posts on the Davao thread, and five pages on the Cebu thread. I have found out about restaurants, the Queen's English, the internet and countless other random topics, but FUCK ALL about girls. Might just as well be reading the Lonely Planet.[/QUOTE]If we want newbs to join and report (we do, as the actual reports have become scarce) , it behooves us to not get uppity and act like board-gods. When new guys ask a question, its not fair for us to tell him to RTTF if there's not an answer to his question in the last few pages. Its easy for us to think others will go back and search or read 10 pages of stuff, but nobody does that. We should just answer his question, or point him directly at the already-answered question with a link?

[QUOTE=Barba; 1167930]GE, I do not want to bring an extensive discussion about Davao into the Cebu thread, but in all fairness there is a huge difference today and say 3-4 years ago. The licker ban with the closed Torres "clubs" seems to be a marker in history as well. Places are definably not packed. Anything but a weekend, Davao is more or less a ghost town. As someone said. A village disco of Thailand beats the main attraction in Davao any given day. Saturday there will be a hand full of "GRO:s" in [email]Evibe@Torres[/email] But apart from this, the girls are actually not trowing themselves at you by any means. Not seldom you need to work on your game and expect visits to the beach and / or the parents to have any form of quality punani. I think it can be deceptive to live in Davao and see all of these girls, but once you try to have a continuous flow of action you soon hit the stop signs over and over again. GE, you have seen the amount of money I fuck away in a couple of weeks, and this is an indicator of why I have a fair success rate in Davao. Conservative girls wishing you Gods bless, is more likely than girls throwing juiced up knickers at you.

Davao is laid back and a has a nice, provincial touch but we got to be fair and talk about this city for what it is. Where else (apart from maybe CDO) would you have a handsome guys in his mid 30:s in the head attraction of davao, walking up to Barba asking if any of the four girls present perhaps could be a working girl (this was one of the two top clubs that Friday night we had dinner att DBK)? Out of the four girls present, non was available for p4p. He had been in town for three days and since he did not do street walkers, he had not been laid once! The four girls where another team of girls dancing in a square with their pinoy men drinking beer behind them. Just out of interest I took several drives down and around Tlonko street that is the hunting ground for street walkers under 25 years (not Peoples Park where you mostly find more mature females and ladyboys). Normally 6-8 tattooed gang-girls sitting close to Central bank but no girls on the side streets as there used to be. There are always 2-3 ugly ones at the end of Rizal and some drugged out wreck on San Pedro. The girls that used to hang around Victoria and Gaisano seem gone. Can anyone tell me what is going on with Davao? Is the finical crisis that bad? Maybe we move this to the Davao thread.

One newfound friend asked me if it was normal for Davao when his suggestion for a happy ending in a seedy massage establishment was met with a "maybe if you come again tomorrow I will do it". He is used to Pattaya, so no more comments needed.

I would say that one should come prepared to Davao. Either prepared with names and numbers or with good walking shoes for scouting the malls. There is not much of fall back plans to talk about. The mentioned bars and massage places normally will have mostly wash outs from Manila and Cebu, together with one provincial young diamond if you are lucky. GE the picture you paint of an abundance of smiling and willing girls, would make me very happy and I do not want to be a spoiler, but Davao as I know it is mainly a city for normal and often slow moving girlfriend-boyfriend relations. You can have many girlfriends, and there is freedom in the relations of course, but it is still not anything close to walking in to a bar packed with 20-30 teens that will fuck you ten minutes after you donated your 1700 pesos.

Before I go on, I will invite other opinions from recent visitors. Sometimes we get fed up or home blind, but so many guys I met the last two years where disappointed with Davao. The last guy I met when we where leaving Davao, said that he had spent a few days and did not see once single pretty girl. This was a 60+ American, so not exactly Brad Pit looking for Miss Jolie.

Sorry for being off topic in the Cebu thread.

Regards Barba[/QUOTE]Idk I work in mindanao for uncle sam and we have been "cleaning this place up" so to speak so maybe that may be the reason. Also I know for a fact back in 09 or 10 the insurgency got a hold of about 50 tourist / journalist and ransomed and executed all of them. In fact the state department put a travel warning out here, so I would suggest staying out of Mindanao for the time being. I think the working girls are staying off the block because of this. Just my thought

[QUOTE=Sukebetaichou82;1168438]Idk I work in mindanao for uncle sam and we have been "cleaning this place up" so to speak so maybe that may be the reason. Also I know for a fact back in 09 or 10 the insurgency got a hold of about 50 tourist / journalist and ransomed and executed all of them. In fact the state department put a travel warning out here, so I would suggest staying out of Mindanao for the time being. I think the working girls are staying off the block because of this. Just my thought[/QUOTE]I think you've got your facts fairly well bent out of shape. First, in the 8 years or so I've lived here, and worked in virtually all of the insurgent regions of Mindanao, I've never heard about that ransom and execution, largely because it never happened. You may be referring to the Maguindanao Massacre, during which 56 people-about 36 of them journalists-were executed by the Ampatuan clan. As despicable as this was, no foreigners were involved and it happened deep in the Bush and no where near where any foreigner has any reason to be.

Second, the continuous US military presence in Davao is between sparse and non-existent, and would have no correlation to a reduction in the number of sex workers, which has never been as high as it is in other cities. I would suggest rather that there is a direct correlation between economic development (Davao is booming) and the proliferation of sex workers. As economic opportunity increases, fewer people take jobs of last resort.

Third, the "advisory" regarding travel in the Philippines was issued more than 8 years ago, though it gets updated once or twice a year. I'm sure it has an overall negative impact on tourism, but the fact is that in relation to Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore and Malaysia, the Philippines has never attracted a river of tourists who prefer places with better organization, better infrastructure and perhaps more interesting and accessible cultures.

There's so much distorted information about the country that circulates internationally, and there's no need to perpetuate it here.

GE

[QUOTE=Sukebetaichou82;1168438]Idk I work in mindanao for uncle sam and we have been "cleaning this place up" so to speak so maybe that may be the reason. Also I know for a fact back in 09 or 10 the insurgency got a hold of about 50 tourist / journalist and ransomed and executed all of them. In fact the state department put a travel warning out here, so I would suggest staying out of Mindanao for the time being. I think the working girls are staying off the block because of this. Just my thought[/QUOTE]See GE's post for an excellent rejoinder to this totally inaccurate "advisory" from Suke. . .

I lived in Davao myself from 2002. 2004 and still travel occasionally to Mindanao for business reasons and there is absolutely no problem with living in Davao or Cagayan deOro in the north either. There is no correlation whatsoever between insurgency or conflict in parts of western Mindanao (the islands particularly) and a decrease in the number of working girls. Not sure where Suke got his data from but, as GE eloquently pointed out, it is seriously incorrect.

And here I thought this was a CEBU thread.

What the hell does this have to do with Cebu? Plez have your rants and bickerings in the proper threads and cities.

Sheesh.

It's no wonder you though that this was the Cebu thread because it is the Cebu thread. Are you making progress?

Those that go to Davao have often been to Cebu first. Travel warnings affect the whole country, and sometimes the livliehoods of people who live on the islands. The posters involved have given far more information than you can imagine. Sheesh, it's amazing how some newcomers [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] in the same pot that they drink from.

In order to avoid the wrath of Mr. Cankor S, I would like to report that Cebu gets far less rain than Luzon this time of year. In my opinion, warped as it may be, the gals are better looking too. That's why I'm planning a Cebu touchdown in mid July. X Man.

[QUOTE=Roycankor; 1168776]And here I thought this was a CEBU thread.

What the hell does this have to do with Cebu? Plez have your rants and bickerings in the proper threads and cities.

Sheesh[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Roycankor; 1168776]And here I thought this was a CEBU thread.

What the hell does this have to do with Cebu? Plez have your rants and bickerings in the proper threads and cities.

Sheesh. [/QUOTE]I could understand your pique perhaps if you had contributed more than a grand total of 5 posts to this forum. As it is, I think I'll just put you on my growing ignore list.

I agree with red here. Please read the forums. There is a search tool that works reasonable well. In any case, please read old postings, they are still relevant. It is sort of boring to answer same old questions, when you should be reading the posts. We like posting information, but definitely not everyone's personal valet.

Ciao,

CT

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1168234]I am always happy to address specific questions about anything if I know the answer.

However, I dislike lazy people who come on here and ask the simplest questions without having read ANY posts at all.

As I said in another post. We have discussed every topic at some time somewhere on this board. If people want an update, then by all means ask for it.

For example? Is the barfine at Rogues still 1500 php like it was last year (or whatever)?

The best part of each thread is when guys post REPORTS of their adventures, whether in Manila, Malate, Greenbelt, Burgos, Davao or Cebu et al.

There seems to be fewer and fewer of them so far this year.[/QUOTE]

Arriving in Cebu today at 1:00am, meaning there will be few taxi drivers around so it's either pay their jacked up fee or stand there and wait. So to deal with this, I got a hotel close to the airport. Feel like belting out Steppenwolf tonight so anyone know a KTV in Lapu Lapu that won't charge me an arm and a leg? If anyone wants to join me, let me know. I'll be in Cebu for a while, so I'm finally going to get to know the area and people beyond mongering which is cool. But of course I will be meeting as many girls as I can too. Have a couple set up for tonight late night, but if they end up bailing, I'll just head out and explore Lapu Lapu scene-any suggestions would be appreciated.

I've been absent from ISG for a while, but hope to post frequently now that I'm on the ground again.

[QUOTE=AchillesHeel; 1169053]Arriving in Cebu today at 1:00am, meaning there will be few taxi drivers around so it's either pay their jacked up fee or stand there and wait. So to deal with this, I got a hotel close to the airport. Feel like belting out Steppenwolf tonight so anyone know a KTV in Lapu Lapu that won't charge me an arm and a leg? If anyone wants to join me, let me know. I'll be in Cebu for a while, so I'm finally going to get to know the area and people beyond mongering which is cool. But of course I will be meeting as many girls as I can too. Have a couple set up for tonight late night, but if they end up bailing, I'll just head out and explore Lapu Lapu scene-any suggestions would be appreciated.

I've been absent from ISG for a while, but hope to post frequently now that I'm on the ground again. [/QUOTE]Few taxi drivers around? Usually plenty of white cabs in line waiting for passengers on the second level. Simply exit the terminal and pass all the yellow taxi touts and give them a smile and tell them you will NOT be riding with them today, instead cross the road and head for the gate and then up the stairs to the waiting line of white local taxis. Yellow airport taxis charge 70P-4. 50p and the white taxis are the regular 40p-3. 50P. To be fair my Premier Elite status with PAL provides me with a priority baggage perk so my bag is one of the first to come out. I leave the terminal, meet my GF outside and I am in a taxi and on the way to Cebu City in a few minutes, leaving everyone else to fight for taxis.

The "jacked up fee" you mentioned might only apply if your hotel is outside the Lapux2 or Cebu City area, and sometimes the request is acceptable and sometimes not. Again YMMV depending on your situation. Once in awhile the yellow airport taxi drivers will ask for a flat fee to take you to your hotel instead of using the meter if he thinks he can suck an extra 50p or 100P from a first time visitor to Cebu.

Yellow taxi from the airport to Fuente average usually around 375P-400p which is expensive IMHO. The cost for a white taxi from the airport to the same destination will average around 180-230P depending on traffic and time of day. The cheapest taxi I payed was a 120P white taxi. That was during the Christmas holidays with zero traffic and a crazy-assed driver who told me no CITOM working the holiday so no need to slow down or stop. LOL. I gave him 150p.

AchillesHeel,

My mistake I just noticed the 1am part. If you will be on an International flight there should be a few taxis but if you arrive on a domestic good luck. You can walk over to the guard booth at Waterfront and ask them to call a taxi. You will have to deal with the taxi driver and he will ask for "extra" because the guards will demand a finders fee.

[QUOTE=Roycankor; 1168776]And here I thought this was a CEBU thread.

What the hell does this have to do with Cebu? Plez have your rants and bickerings in the proper threads and cities.

Sheesh. [/QUOTE]We also import our girls from Mindanao so we need to know the girl situation see if it is changing. We may need to plant more seeds here if supply get low. LOL

Great post Stroker. Sometimes I scan posts like these with glazed eyes and move on because its old news to me. But you've obviously taken a few minutes and given some info that should be very useful to any newcomer to Cebu. X.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88;1169127]Few taxi drivers around? Usually plenty of white cabs in line waiting for passengers on the second level. >>>SNIP.[/QUOTE]

Has anyone been there? Its a night club. Disco from what I understand.

[QUOTE=AchillesHeel;1169053]Feel like belting out Steppenwolf tonight so anyone know a KTV in Lapu Lapu that won't charge me an arm and a leg?[/QUOTE]Not sure if you are interested in bikini bars too because there is a difference. For a KTV check White Castle located near the new bridge. No take out but no problem getting contact info. There are a few others mostly geared towards Koreans and Japanese.

For bikini bars check Mermaid but hit it early for the best selection. There are a handful of others but as with most bars they can be hit or miss. A few others that can be fun are Frolics and Red Hot Chili Peppers.

[QUOTE=Mc Don]The Pump. Pasao.

Has anyone been there? Its a night club. Disco from what I understand. [/QUOTE]Sure I know the place well.

Club Pump located behind Cebu Grand Convention Center, not in Paseo.

Pump II located in Mango Square.

[QUOTE=D Cups;1169840]Hi RK, any experience in Zamboanga? . They seem to have a high proportion of sexy ones on DIA. Thanks.[/QUOTE]This is the Cebu thread mate.

I will reply in the "other areas" thread. I have already been rapped for posting in wrong threads already (mea culpa) and my knuckles are still sore.

[QUOTE=Mc Don;1169823]Has anyone been there? Its a night club. Disco from what I understand.[/QUOTE]I was guided to a place named Pump by a very initiated fellow monger of Cebu. The place was packed with available girls, and my friend told me that it will fill up even more after the bars close. Highly recommended hunting ground IMHO. We took a taxi and all I know is that is was in the proximity of Waterfront Hotel. I inquired if it was close to the sea but got the response that the only water was a small creek that dried away.

B

Sorry for no pics so you will need to rely on my excellent taste. I met a STUNNER recently in Cebu who would be happy to see some of our fine upstanding ISG mongers.

I'm usually a one-visit man since I crave diversity and novelty. BUT this girl was such a great time that I saw her three times in 10 days, something I've not done in years. And she's become a friend.

Stats: 22 years old. One child, five years old, but no stretch marks and still very nice B cups.

Of course, YMMV, but this girl's a true dynamo in the sack and has a fun and happy demeanor. She's about 5' and 90 pounds and very cute. Tariff: 1500 for short-time but not rushed at all.

She didn't want her number put on here publicly (maybe against ISG rules anyway?) but if anyone's interested to see her, I highly recommend you contact me and I'll provide. But only if you treat her nicely since she's a personal friend.

Lometogo

Guys.

I know this is strictly speaking, not the right thread to post this information in, so I have added it to the correct thread also. I will be back in Cebu next week if anyone fancies meeting up for a cold beer or dinner one evening. I will have mom and her two kids staying with me for the first week but they know me well enough by now to give me the space whenever I need it, so meeting will never be a problem. Will stay at the Waterfront in Lahug at least for the first week until I head off over to Mindanao.

PM me if you are free?

[QUOTE=Polyorchid; 1170365]Sorry for no pics so you will need to rely on my excellent taste. I met a STUNNER recently in Cebu who would be happy to see some of our fine upstanding ISG mongers.

I'm usually a one-visit man since I crave diversity and novelty. BUT this girl was such a great time that I saw her three times in 10 days, something I've not done in years. And she's become a friend.

Stats: 22 years old. One child, five years old, but no stretch marks and still very nice B cups.

Of course, YMMV, but this girl's a true dynamo in the sack and has a fun and happy demeanor. She's about 5' and 90 pounds and very cute. Tariff: 1500 for short-time but not rushed at all.

She didn't want her number put on here publicly (maybe against ISG rules anyway?) but if anyone's interested to see her, I highly recommend you contact me and I'll provide. But only if you treat her nicely since she's a personal friend.

Lometogo[/QUOTE]Coming next month. Please PM me the info. Promise to take good care.

Thanks for the info Polu tho I must say 1500P seems steep, especially for a girl who's had a kid. My experience is you can get early 20s, cute and with good attitudes thru sites like DIA for half that price, even less.

[QUOTE=Member #1453;1170723]Coming next month. Please PM me the info. Promise to take good care.[/QUOTE]Make sure you don't get confused with Member # 1088.

Hes the amazing guy who deflowers Filipina virgins with his phone.

Hes also a world class plonker. A name change Mr 1453 might serve you well!

[QUOTE=Barba; 1170132]I was guided to a place named Pump by a very initiated fellow monger of Cebu. The place was packed with available girls, and my friend told me that it will fill up even more after the bars close. Highly recommended hunting ground IMHO. We took a taxi and all I know is that is was in the proximity of Waterfront Hotel. I inquired if it was close to the sea but got the response that the only water was a small creek that dried away.

B[/QUOTE]I have been there a couple of times.

Its a short walk along Archbishop Reyes from the corner near Parklane Hotel and BEHIND the Convention Center.

Did you score there Barba? Last time I went there it was wall to wall people but 80% were Koreans and most of the Korean girls (students) were in groups and had the noses in the air. I reckon 10% were ladyboys, and the other 10% were regular hard-looking hookers. I was there around midnight and before the bars close. I doubt that many bgs go there as I have never seen many foreigners there. Just lots of Korean students, and many quite pissed, although the security is very very heavy.

I just find that really loud techno-funk music drives me crazy after about 10 minutes, so each time I left for Sunflower disco and had much better luck there. JMHO

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1170787]I have been there a couple of times.

Its a short walk along Archbishop Reyes from the corner near Parklane Hotel and BEHIND the Convention Center.

Did you score there Barba? Last time I went there it was wall to wall people but 80% were Koreans and most of the Korean girls (students) were in groups and had the noses in the air. I reckon 10% were ladyboys, and the other 10% were regular hard-looking hookers. I was there around midnight and before the bars close. I doubt that many bgs go there as I have never seen many foreigners there. Just lots of Korean students, and many quite pissed, although the security is very very heavy.

I just find that really loud techno-funk music drives me crazy after about 10 minutes, so each time I left for Sunflower disco and had much better luck there. JMHO[/QUOTE]I have picked up many girls there. I agree a lot of koreans are there, but I never have a problem getting a girl. And the wave of girls after 2 am is worth the time just to see the quality.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1170767]Make sure you don't get confused with Member # 1088.

Hes the amazing guy who deflowers Filipina virgins with his phone.

Hes also a world class plonker. A name change Mr 1453 might serve you well! [/QUOTE]Hehe. Me. I am nowhere nere as successful or lucky. For me is the hard DIC (dick-in-cock) time and again. No fancy gadgets or slippery finger.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1170767]Make sure you don't get confused with Member # 1088.

Hes the amazing guy who deflowers Filipina virgins with his phone. [/QUOTE]Where can I buy the app for that? :D

Spent some time in Cebu, tried different options:

Mango.

Many regulars and no pro in Juliana, it's a good option if you like to have a GFE plus some tips / restaurants / gifts.

Massage.

Some place are more professional other less. But for mongering I advice to have a massage in your hotel room, just ask to the reception and they will call a girl, price is usually 500 for the massage, but in the room the girl is free to make you happy and get some extras.

Street.

Tested two girls near mango, very bad service if not a ripp off, I really advice you to avoid this option, girls are sometime dirty, they just try to get a shower in the room and finish as soon as possible A V O I D.

DIA and other websites.

Good for GFE if you have time to spend, some are really open minded, others pretend to be good girls waiting for marriage but if you are kind and not ughly, they can give you love and sex, other are really marriage oriented so it's a waist of time and money.

I experienced a couple of encounters with a just 18 yo, really sweet and with a toned body, the problem is that they often come with brother, sister, friends, hahaha really funny thinks can happen. This could be an option to train a teen to be a perfect future wife! But again you need time to invest.

Roger & Barba.

Thank you guys! I wish you where there and could spend a nice evening drinking talking and laughing together. Your friends are really nice and hot!

I put this information here as I can't find a better place, bantayan it's a small island north of Cebu.

Very quiet and peaceful, a nice beach near the harbour in Sta Fe town, I preferred the beach on the right side of the pier (Beach club, Beach Placid hotels) , I preferred the second.

There's only one place "Zanzibar" on the road from St. Fe to Beach Placid, bad music, karaoke. 4-6 girls, but apparently only one can go out with you (not bad the body, but not tried) the other are there just to talk and make you order drinks.

Other bars in St Fe have nice girls, but they are regular and working, so you need to spend time in the island to go together when they finish working, not my option unfortunately.

So I suggest you to bring a girl from Cebu and spend you heney moon together hehehe.

To reach Bantayan take a taxi from your hotel to the north bus terminal, from there take Ceres aircon bus, better to arrive at the bus station within 9 am.

The bus ride trough a nice landscape in the countryside and on some hills before reaching the pier (San remigio town) , it's about 3h. Bus ride.

From the pier a ferry in 1 h. Take you to St. Fe, one of the main towns in Bantayan, many hotes are available, just jump on a tricycle and explore before choosing or go direct if you know it.

I rented a scooter for 300 / day after bargain, they start at 400 (some 450 / day for one day)

There are not excellent restaurants, but Cou Cou and D'jungle are not bad, I also loved street food, very tasty and never had problems.

Enjoy!

Latin

Enjoy the landscape, unfortunately no girls to show.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1170787]Did you score there Barba?[/QUOTE]I went there with a girl. It seemed good that time at least. But my experience is very limited so I am sure you are right, Red Kilt.

Barba

[QUOTE=Latin; 1171206]Roger & Barba.

Thank you guys! I wish you where there and could spend a nice evening drinking talking and laughing together. Your friends are really nice and hot![/QUOTE]I am glad you had fun! Did you see Miss Gag?

B

[QUOTE=Frenzy3;1170797]I have picked up many girls there. I agree a lot of koreans are there, but I never have a problem getting a girl. And the wave of girls after 2 am is worth the time just to see the quality.[/QUOTE]Same here even one Korean student. If the music is too loud or you have two left feet, you can always sit outside at those cool plastic tables and chairs provided the weather is good!

[QUOTE=Latin;1171208]I put this information here as I can't find a better place, bantayan it's a small island north of Cebu.[/QUOTE]Nice report and pics and yes you posted in the right section since Bantayan is part of Cebu.

There are a few more places where girls are available commercially. Some are rather cleverly disguised. On the road to Bantayan City there is a massage place that offers extras but yes definately bring your own girl. World class seafood abounds at every turn!

[QUOTE=Latin;1171209]Enjoy the landscape, unfortunately no girls to show.[/QUOTE]Thanks much for the reports and pics here and on the other forums.

Slim

[QUOTE=Barba; 1171229]I am glad you had fun! Did you see Miss Gag?

B[/QUOTE]Yes Miss Gag was a lot of fun, she has never enough.

This being my cherry voyage to PI, I took a little excursion to Cebu City and stayed midtown near Robinsons. Nice location relative to the gogo bars if that is your thing. I went to Vikings and Sisters, Not too impressed with the quality of girls. Also, too many Korean and Japanese big spenders there. I barfined a Viking girl that did a nice dance, based on enthusiasm. Very cute girl. 21 I think. The only truly hot girl in the bars that night. She ended up extracting like 4 tequila shots out of me before barfine. Total damage was something like 3100 for the few beers, LD's, and barfine. Too much IMO. I could do LT in Manila MBC for much less.

So the girl was pledged to stay long time, but I knew from the start that she would be a runner. Anyway, I took my barfine back to the hotel and she told me that she has to have music to fuck, no music, no fuck. I was wondering what the hell, I barfined this girl and she is going to fuck or else! But I misunderstood what she was up to. She pulled out her cell phone, put it on the bed, and some hiphop music from her playlist was blasting from the phone the whole time. Little odd.

The girl did bareback fuck but was totally lame otherwise. Would not suck, only lick the head. During HJ grabbed the cock way too far down for my sensation. Would not lick and jerk at the same time. Maybe her brain can't process both things at the same time. She didn't seem too bright. Sometimes she was licking precum off the head of my dick, other times she was trying to wipe it off with a towel. Jeez, just suck the damn thing. Anyway, I finally ended up cumming on her tits from the HJ. At this point she tells me that she cannot stay because she has nurses school in the morning. I told her that was a lie and she said no lie, she forgot. I said that is why I asked you in the bar did you have school tomorrow. No response. But as I said, I figured her for a runner. So I told her go home then, and I am going back to Viking or Julianas (knowing this was where she would be returning to). She was a little taken aback and acted upset because I had called her bluff, but didn't say anything. Tried to hit me for taxi fare, but I did not give.

Next day, I went to Robinsons and got picked up at the shawarma place by 4 girls. Took 2 of them back, cousins. Crappy lay and did not even get a BJ out of the deal. One girl complained that she smelled the other girls poo-say on me. So what.. I think they were having more fun than I did. Ended up being jacked off by one girl onto the other girl, and then the receiving girl stuck a finger in my ass and prostate massaged until I was shooting ropes. Lousy lay but I was spent for the rest of the day, empty tank and nothing more than puffs of dick smoke to give other girls. One girl was a Viking girl, and the other a former worker at some other bar. I did not discuss money first, my mistake. I was expecting to pay 1k each ST but they insisted on 1500 each. WTF, that is a Manila price. I resisted and one claimed she was going to call her uncle to get me in some kind of trouble. I think she was bluffing but since this is 3rd world I am not taking my chances on someones connections over a matter of 1k pesos. God knows what kind of trumped up charge I could have if her relative is in the police. I paid up, then they asked me to come to Macatan to meet the family and hang out. WTF again. I am not stupid and if someone threatens me over 1k pesos no way am I going to ride to a strange area in a cab with them.

At this point I decided fuck Cebu and flew back to MNL that day, at quite great cost due to hotel cancellation and flight change. I am sure Cebu can be great for those invested in DIA contacts and so forth, but for a guy like me coming in without time for prework, and just going to gogo and the mall, I see no advantage over Manila. But of course I could be wrong. And versus Ermita this part of Cebu is a little ghetto. So many families sleeping on the sidewalk, guys selling puppies in the daytime crammed in boxes like sardines, little kids running the exchange places on Ramos, the touts and beggars are much more aggressive than the ones in MNL, and stick on you for blocks touching and grabbing your arms. Like hellhole Vila Mimosa in Rio, except there it is women grabbing your arms for a trick, whereas in Cebu is it dirty street guys trying to put hands all over you, for buying Viagra, or girls, or whatever. So maybe I was in the wrong part of Cebu, cause everyone else says how great it is compare with MNL. I'm not seeing it. The only good part about the streets in that area are that I was offered a BJ from an older, maybe 28 yrs, off work bar girl (street walking) for an up-to-you price of 120 php. I didn't take it because I had just done the Viking barfine. I was also a little apprehensive about the price, and would have checked to make sure it's not LB before agreeing. But I am 98% certain not LB. The price was just astoundingly low, so I smelt trouble of some kind. Like some shit might get started in the room and the price would go way up from 120. I am very cautious.

The girls here are very blunt. One girl referred to herself as a w-hore. One of the malls rats was in my room, ran to the bathroom, yelled 'hold on I have to shit', came back and told me not to eat her pussy anymore because she had just shit. Okaay. That is not very cool. Back to Manila until I get DIA contacts for the next trip. I felt burnt by Cebu, whereas Manila and MBC is very good for me. Lots of GFE, BB, LT you name it.

[QUOTE=Puta Playa;1172121]This being my cherry voyage to PI, I took a little excursion to Cebu City and stayed midtown near Robinsons. Nice location relative to the gogo bars if that is your thing. I went to Vikings and Sisters, Not too impressed with the quality of girls.[/QUOTE]YMMV you went into only 2 bars (there are 10 in stones throw of those 2) then you pick up some street trash, and you saw Cebu.

Pitty you did not do more home work, or maybe it is better you skip cebu.

From what I read, you went to two bars, stayed two days, and had two or three lousy lays. And a runner which you expected to be a runner.

I'm sorry that you had a bad time, but I feel you've been a bit too harsh. I don't remember anyone ever suggesting that Cebu is more costly than MNL. I personally have found much better quality and performance at Cebu bars than MBC. I haven't been to Cebu for about one year. I hope things aren't as bad as you suggested. X.

[QUOTE=Puta Playa; 1172121]This being my cherry voyage to PI, I took a little excursion to Cebu City and stayed midtown near Robinsons. Nice location relative to the gogo bars if that is your thing. I went to Vikings and Sisters, Not too impressed with the quality of girls. Also, too many Korean and Japanese big spenders there. I barfined a Viking girl that did a nice dance, based on enthusiasm. Very cute girl. 21 I think. The only truly hot girl in the bars that night. She ended up extracting like 4 tequila shots out of me before barfine. Total damage was something like 3100 for the few beers, LD's, and barfine. Too much IMO. I could do LT in Manila MBC for much less.

SNIP.[/QUOTE]

Punta wrote: One girl was a Viking girl, and the other a former worker at some other bar. I did not discuss money first, my mistake. I was expecting to pay 1k each ST but they insisted on 1500 each. WTF, that is a Manila price.

X thinks:

1, 500 is a bit high for ST. You did the right thing by offerring 1k. Nevertheless, If it is a off duty bar girl, I think 1, 500 isn't unreasonable. My numbers may be out of date, but let's say 1700 bar fine and the girl gets 700. But maybe you bought a drink or two so she makes more than that. So, if you hook up outside the bar. 1500 is less than what you would have paid and 1500 is more than she might have received. Win, win for everyone?

I've had a very similar experience to Punta. But, overall, I've gotten some great GFE, long time, I love you no shit experiences in Cebu for very reasonalbe outlay. X

Do any senior members or Cebu regulars wish to share some DIA contacts (or p4p) in Cebu that have worked out well in the past. Please pm me. Where is Wicked Roger? I haven't heard from him in a while.

I'll be in Cebu mid July if anyone wants a wingman, or just to sit down and swap sea stories. X

[QUOTE=X Man; 1172322]Do any senior members or Cebu regulars wish to share some DIA contacts (or p4p) in Cebu that have worked out well in the past. Please pm me. Where is Wicked Roger? I haven't heard from him in a while.

I'll be in Cebu mid July if anyone wants a wingman, or just to sit down and swap sea stories. X[/QUOTE]Arriving 3rd wk July. Will you still be there / Please PM so we can meet up

[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1172131]YMMV you went into only 2 bars (there are 10 in stones throw of those 2) then you pick up some street trash, and you saw Cebu.

Pitty you did not do more home work, or maybe it is better you skip cebu.[/QUOTE]No, I did not mean to imply that I 'saw Cebu' in the sense that I know what its all about because I do not at all. Just a noob here. I just went to check it out and it was going badly from the start, so I made a decision to leave. So the value of my report here is showing people what NOT to do if you want to have an excellent time. I hope people can appreciate that. I learn more off the reports of what went wrong than what went right.

I didn't pick up street trash persay. I picked up from Viking and the mall. If there is any difference. The street girl I did meet claimed to be an off duty bar girl, but I did not take her back cause I don't do street meat as a rule. A decent looking girl is pretty damn desperate to be selling BBBJ in a shady area for the price of a simple meal, and if she thinks her time and health is practically worthless like that, I decline.

I agree. I should have skipped it until I was ready. I had short notice of an opportunity to go, read a bunch of back posts, exchanged a few PMs with an expert and went. But the critical part that I didn't get is that the Cebu magic seems to be based on DIA stuff rather than barfines and mall rats. Apparently, based on my PM discussions, some of the hardcore guys with impressive pics and stories are chatting up girls for months in advance, bringing gifts like bikinis, chocolates and all kinds of stuff, even playing mind games with the DIA girls. I know how that works, just didn't have time to do it.
[QUOTE=X Man;1172132]From what I read, you went to two bars, stayed two days, and had two or three lousy lays. And a runner which you expected to be a runner.

I'm sorry that you had a bad time, but I feel you've been a bit too harsh. I don't remember anyone ever suggesting that Cebu is more costly than MNL. I personally have found much better quality and performance at Cebu bars than MBC. I haven't been to Cebu for about one year. I hope things aren't as bad as you suggested. X.[/QUOTE]

No way, I don't mean to say that things are that bad. Or that it was necessarily more costly. Just not to my taste because I went with the expectation that the girls were less pro, and the hotels were cheaper for the same quality. The hotels around Robinson were not cheaper than Ermita hotels, the barfines cost that same as MBC pickups but there is the added risk of a runner, and I was getting a bad start as compared with MNL which was a very good start. But then I went back to Manila and got basically abducted and robbed 2 days later, so....it's just a shitty trip, but I've had some good service overall, and I've learned. Which is what I came here to do. Now the next time I can come back and do it right because I've got the basics and what not to do. It is not easy traveling alone into these places on the first time in country, when everyone else is winged up and not wanting to talk or share notes when you meet them. It is way different here because they are so used to foreigners, speak English, act mostly like Westerners, and know exactly what we are thinking. And everybody has their hand out and even bold enough to ask for tips. Only people who dont want tips are the 7-Eleven clerks. My experiences in Latin countries and other parts of Asia don't apply most of the time here, even though some of those places are just as poor as here.

puta playa.

yeah i read you post what happened in mnl and that is on reason you should have stayed in cebu.

i always do a bar hop in cebu i start with the bars in mango going from bar to bar till in find a girl, then often i find out from the girls where they want to go as there are 50 bars here in cebu, and the girls move around.

i am not a fan of mall trash even if they state the work at a bar, i rather a girl i know has gone to hygiene in the last week. some bars i ask to see their hygiene cards as before there where a few **** working and they can not get hygiene. i still rather not bb are bar girl as they have pino bf who can give them a surprise before they go to work

Damn, your luck has got to turn soon. You should go out and buy some lottery tickets!

The first time I visited the Philippoines (Subic Bay) I did so along with a Destroyter full of friends and shipmates, and as you suggest that makes things easier. Nevertheless, I did get on a bus and go to Manila by myself on that trip back in 1981. X.

[QUOTE=Puta Playa; 1172412]SNIP.

But then I went back to Manila and got basically abducted and robbed 2 days later, so. It's just a shitty trip, but I've had some good service overall, and I've learned. Which is what I came here to do. Now the next time I can come back and do it right because I've got the basics and what not to do. It is not easy traveling alone into these places on the first time in country, when everyone else is winged up and not wanting to talk or share notes when you meet them. It is way different here because they are so used to foreigners, speak English, act mostly like Westerners, and know exactly what we are thinking. And everybody has their hand out and even bold enough to ask for tips. Only people who don't want tips are the 7-Eleven clerks. My experiences in Latin countries and other parts of Asia don't apply most of the time here, even though some of those places are just as poor as here.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Puta Playa;1172412]. It is way different here because they are so used to foreigners, speak English, act mostly like Westerners, and know exactly what we are .[/QUOTE]PP, You have perfectly well summed up why some people fail in Philippines (or set themselves up to fail ).

Its not the same as the West although it certainly looks and feels like it with people speaking English and acting Westernised. Its an act. Its still Asia and many people before you and no doubt after you will make the mistake of thinking that because its looks like the West, and people act like the West that its in the West.

If nothing else, the West would never allow the corruption that is endemic.

[QUOTE=X Man;1172611]Nevertheless, I did get on a bus and go to Manila by myself on that trip back in 1981. X.[/QUOTE]That part of town is worse now than in 1981 from what I have heard.

[QUOTE=Allover;1172746]That part of town is worse now than in 1981 from what I have heard.[/QUOTE]According to a recent Asian Development Bank report, available free to anyone who visits the ADB site, this is the only country in ASEAN that actually managed to increase the number of people living in poverty over the past decade. All of the others experienced significant declines. That being the case, it should surprise no one at all that the situation here doesn't get any better and that some urban areas actually get worse.

In ny recent trip (I hardly ever take pro's, mostly freebies and inexperienced free lancers) I had a few girls who quoted crazy prices.

No not because of bargaining but really convinced that the price was. (fill in any ridiculous amount).

This just happens because some other inexperienced friend of them got a big amount from a guy and now the girl also thinks that this is the standard price.

I do not want to price police anybody, we can all decide that for ourselves. I also spend a lot of money on a girl if she has really done her best and we had a great time.

But let me make a suggestion. If I pay more than roughly the average rate (PHP 1. 000 ST) I always make it clear "this is for work and this is because we had such a great time / you were super / for your school some help or whatever.

This has the advantage that a. The "work" price stays the same be. Girl feels even better about receiving the same amount of money.

There are others here who know the phils much better than I do but for sure in SE Asia it is a necessity. If you pay e. G. In Thailand or vietnam triple the price because you are so good hearted (from your perspective) you are seen as a not too intelligent guy (since you do not know prices) with too much money. It is all about "face".

On the other hand, bargain hard (but not too hard) , pay a normal price for "work" and give everything extra as a gift. Then you are respected and seen as a guy with a good heart and will be treated much better, believe me.

[QUOTE=X Man; 1172322]Do any senior members or Cebu regulars wish to share some DIA contacts (or p4p) in Cebu that have worked out well in the past. Please pm me. Where is Wicked Roger? I haven't heard from him in a while.

I'll be in Cebu mid July if anyone wants a wingman, or just to sit down and swap sea stories. X[/QUOTE]You want girls like this?

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[QUOTE=Fslag338;1172788]But let me make a suggestion. If I pay more than roughly the average rate (PHP 1. 000 ST) I always make it clear "this is for work and this is because we had such a great time / you were super / for your school some help or whatever.[/QUOTE]Now this is true monger wisdom. Such a simple solution to a "problem" I encounter frequently.

I will adopt this right off. Thank you for this very good and efficient piece of advice.

Regards Barba

Arrived in Cebu from HK on Tuesday and landed at Mactan. I don't know why but I still feel nervous every time I walk through customs having filled out my customs form with nothing to declare and as usual I having a suitcase full of cheap cell phones, jewellery and other assorted gifts. I have never ever been stopped in the Philippines, but I always feel anxious as I pass by customs in Mactan.

As I was completing my immigration forms on the plane I realised I have made a stupid mistake with my travel plans. I booked a trip that lasts about 25 days and forgot about the 21 day visa on arrival. Those 3 or 4 extra days are going to cost me dearly, I think it is about 10, 000 pesos to extend to 28 days and the immigration guy told me not to worry I can sort this out when I am leaving. Have any of you guys done this as you are leaving, I am just worried I will be given a hard time for overstaying my visa, even if it is only a few days. Maybe I am better just extending it before my departure date, anyone got any advice?

Daisy and her two kids were as usual waiting for me, having taken the 3-4 hour bus journey up from Alegria to meet me. It makes such a difference having a friendly face to greet you as you arrive and I was delighted to see them after a five months absence.

Up to the taxi rank on the upper level at the departures building and a 180 peso cab ride to the Waterfront Hotel in Lahug. The driver had been running his meter as soon as he saw me ready with my bags but I was tired and desperate to get to my hotel so didn't make a fuss.

I checked in and sent my gf and the kids off for something to eat, whilst I had a shower and went down to meet them afterwards. Daisy is 34 and although she has a heart of gold, she is not always the most intelligent of people I have ever come across. She had decided to cut her own hair before my visit and for some reason I still don't fully understand, she had used a sharp knife rather than scissors. To compound the error of judgement she did this herself rather than ask someone to help her. Her eldest daughter had also decided to hack off her younger sister's hair in an apparent but vain effort to emulate a hairdresser with disasterous consequences. Her once beautiful hair had a very high uneven fringe, making her look prematurely bald, Her long hair at the back reminded me of a balding man who grows his remaining hair longer in an effort to disguise the fact and to compensate that he is going bald. To be honest it looked like a travelling circus was in town and I sent them all off to the hairdressers in an effort to try and make them look a little more normal. Daisy's hair was returned to its normal state but her daughter's hair was beyond help and all that was left as an option, was to pin her very short fringe back to resemble (badly) tied back hair and to disguise the fact that she had been butchered.

The second day I left Daisy and the kids at the hotel to see if there were any girls at Ayalla. I got hit on at least half a dozen times, all of whom I recognised as regular mall pros and one or two lady boys. I got speaking to one regular girl (Maricel) at the mall who recognised me from before and I told her I was looking for a non pro girl who was fairly inexperienced. She told me that she had a neighbour just turned 18 who had split from her long term Pinoy bf and needed some extra tution fees and I agreed to meet Maricel with the girl at 10. 30pm that night outside Bo's Coffee Shop. I had already told MaricelI that I would pay her a 500 peso introduction fee if the girl was suitable and I returned early at the arranged spot to find both girls eagerly waiting my arrival.

The 18 year old was not traditionally pretty, but she weighed about 40 kilos and was really tiny, just how I like them. She also appeared a little nervous and shy and we struck a deal for 1000 pesos short time. Maricel agreed to join us and watch and I agreed that this sounded like a fun idea. So without even ordering a drink, we up and left the mall and caught a taxi to the Greenland (that famous short time hotel). A 235 pesos room was identified and we all went up and began undressing within minutes.

Now I had no intention of fucking Maricel, I find hardened pros a bit of a turn off even though Maricel is actually a fun girl and not unattractive, but I was happy for her to sit on the bed whilst I fucked her friend. As I started French kissing the 18 year old girl and she responded in an equally passionate way, Maricel grabbed my hard cock and began sucking vigorously. I pulled out and said to her "just watch me fuck your friend" and she sat back happy to be a bystander. It is not that I mind getting down to business with two girls, it is the fact that I had no idea how many cocks Maricel had taken in her mouth and I really did not want to start (and ruin) my trip with an infection. Anyway too late since she had me deep in her mouth for a few seconds, lets just hope and pray!

Anyway the young girl seemed eager to get me inside her and her warm and moist pussy was a lovely tight but comfortable fit and with her rocking her hips in motion with my forward thrusts, I doubt whether I lasted more than two minutes before exploding inside her.

The three of us grabbed a shower and we were probably back down at the drive in part of the hotel within 30 minutes of arriving. I gave the 18 year old girl my cell and promised to see her again on Sunday. I then returned to my hotel and told Daisy about my adventures before climbing into bed and nodding off next to her. It is so good to be back!

[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1173504]You want girls like this?

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[ATTACH=CONFIG]153720[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]Yes I think I could fall in love again. Hahah. Yes they look hot and I am looking for hot girl.

Will travel cebu soon if you share information on the girls.

I am in angeles and can trade. Hahaha. Why not. Send me pm.

[QUOTE=Mortman;1173972]As I was completing my immigration forms on the plane I realised I have made a stupid mistake with my travel plans. I booked a trip that lasts about 25 days and forgot about the 21 day visa on arrival. Those 3 or 4 extra days are going to cost me dearly, I think it is about 10, 000 pesos to extend to 28 days and the immigration guy told me not to worry I can sort this out when I am leaving. Have any of you guys done this as you are leaving, I am just worried I will be given a hard time for overstaying my visa, even if it is only a few days. Maybe I am better just extending it before my departure date, anyone got any advice?[/QUOTE]No idea about Cebu but in Davao it is 3000 and 500 extra to have "the agent" next door do it for you. When I did it, I just hand them my passport, take a pic and 2 hours later I get a text message stating that I can pick up my passport with the extended visa.

B

[QUOTE=Mortman;1173972]As I was completing my immigration forms on the plane I realised I have made a stupid mistake with my travel plans. I booked a trip that lasts about 25 days and forgot about the 21 day visa on arrival. Those 3 or 4 extra days are going to cost me dearly, I think it is about 10, 000 pesos to extend to 28 days and the immigration guy told me not to worry I can sort this out when I am leaving. Have any of you guys done this as you are leaving, I am just worried I will be given a hard time for overstaying my visa, even if it is only a few days. Maybe I am better just extending it before my departure date, anyone got any advice?[/QUOTE]You probably should have gotten your visa extension upon arrival for just over 3000 php. But the immigration man was right in that you can pay as you exit for a 1000 fine plus the extension. Certain worry warts here will probably tell you that you are talking a huge risk by not following the law but I have done it myself without much hassle. Also know many guys that do it every trip. The key is not to stay more then a few days over as the fines grow exponentially.

[QUOTE=Mortman]. We up and left the mall and caught a taxi to the Greenland (that famous short time hotel).[/QUOTE]Actually, I think you are talking about the "Queensland" short time hotel.

[QUOTE=Mattrick;1174049]Actually, I think you are talking about the "Queensland" short time hotel.[/QUOTE]Yes you are correct, my mistake from typing out a report at 1. 30am in semi-darkness

Went there last night only 10 girls, the quality is down, SML 75 I think the EWR is still 4000 (I saw I guy hand over 3000 but could be wrong) , I was told by a girl latter it was raided last week, which I find strange as one the owners is in the government here. They use to have some of the best skinny young girls there before the raid, so 4000 was money well spent. I will now tell punters go there and ask for a line up with a SML and see if it has improved. Else try the others around there for now. Shame as it was one of the best bars before the raid,

The bars in cebu do not allow photo so I posted the high res ones from my iphone the only thing about this girl is her big tits.

Arranged to meet a sweet looking 18 year old DIA girl at 6. 30pm tonight outside Bo's coffee shop on the first floor outdoor terrace of Ayalla. I arrived at about 7pm and sent her a text protesting I had been waitng 45 minutes for her, and demanding to know where she was. She texted me back promising she was not far away and true to her word she finally appeared at about 7. 20pm, so almost an hour late. I was quite happy sitting outside Bo's with my green tea and eyeing up all the beautiful girls walking past, some of whom caught my eye and smiled back and I felt contented to wait even though my date was considerably late.

Emily arrived alone which is a rarity and I expected at least one friend or relative in tow. She declined my offer of a drink or something to eat, telling me she had taken her dinner before coming to meet me. That is a first for me, meeting a DIA date who did not need feeding or at the very least need a drink. She started going up in my estimation. She was a sweet girl in person, slim and petite with a flat stomach and weighing I would guess about 45 kilos. We started chatting and I told her my cover story which seemed to be well received by Emily. I told her I was staying as a guest of my American friend and his Filipina wife in their apartment in Cebu City. I told her that they were expecting me back for a late dinner and that I would probably check into a hotel in a day or two because I like my own privacy. She nodded understandingly as I recounted this fabrication because of course I am still staying with Daisy my regular gf and her two kids at the Waterfront. Anyway it turns out that Emily has already had a foreign bf before, a guy from Alaska who worked in the fishing industry and who dumped her after 4 months of dating, for another Filipina from Cebu.

Emily seemed a little shy and I had already asked her a few weeks ago during one of our on line chats, if she was willing to stay with me, so I knew before meeting her that she was in play. I now had to push my luck a little and I began telling her how attractive I thought she was and how I wished I had a hotel room to take her back to. She giggled shly and did not appear the least fazed by this so I continued. I asked her would she come to a hotel for a short time with me, because my friend and his wife were expecting me back for dinner at their place. She agreed nodding her head and I then told her I would check with my friend if he knew of any places we could go. I did not want her to think I have used short time places before so I continued with my deception by pretending to text my friend asking him where we could go, when in actual fact I was texting myself the answer. The Queensland.

Within 25 minutes of meeting we were walking down to the taxi rank and in a cab on the way to the Queensland. Once in the room (240 pesos the price seems to change everytime) we got straight down to business. No showering or awkward silences and straight into passionate French kissing. Now I know this sounds like I am some teenage frustrated schoolboy, but I had a hard on from the moment we left Bo's and I knew this was (yet again) not going to be a very long session. I wish I could bullshit you guys and write pages of how we fucked for hours, sadly the truth is a little different. I was lucky to manage ten minutes but extended that time by spending plenty of time French kissing, kissing her small breasts and tiny nipples (like grains of rice) and playing gently with her clitoris and pussy. I did not want to start kissing her pussy as it was very hot, she was wearing jeans and had not showered. A bad taste in my mouth or the slightest whiff of a bad odour would have turned me completely off and I didn't want to take the risk. Anyway I didn't last long I was feeling so horny but managed to continue for about four or five minutes after climaxing, so I didn't look like an abject failure. Even then she looked very disappointed when I told her I was finished, but I was ready to leave and with that we showered together chatting about her life.

Seems she lives with her her auntie, and they obviously do not have much money as the household does not even have a TV. Emily did not once ask me for money, she did not give me any bad luck stories and not the slightest hint of any expectation of cash. I really felt money never entered her head. I was only the second foreigner she had ever been with, a story that I honestly believed. I gave her 1000 pesos and told her to take a taxi home. If you use the Queensland as I have done many times, make sure you have plenty of change. They always seem to take ages to return change and I am of the opinion that they do this deliberately hoping you will get fed up and leave without the change. I am so sick and fed up with this tactic that I now have the exact money ready each time which prevents them from behaving like this.

I told Emily I would probably meet up with her on Sunday, she is really looking for a long term boyfriend but I will try and make her life a bit more comfortable for the short time I am around her. I have told Daisy I am going home on Sunday so I may use that opportunity to move Emily in for a couple of days.

Oh and I know this is completely off topic but I was surprised to see a well known celebrity on the plane coming over from HK the other day. None other than Ozzy Osbourne himself, wonder what he is up to in Cebu? (Lead singer of Black Sabbath, famous Brit rock band of the 70s)

He is up to the same thing you are Mort. Enjoyed the read. As you know I am engaged and off the market. But I can still enjoy a good Yarn. Have Fun.

[QUOTE=Mortman;1174314]Oh and I know this is completely off topic but I was surprised to see a well known celebrity on the plane coming over from HK the other day. None other than Ozzy Osbourne himself, wonder what he is up to in Cebu? (Lead singer of Black Sabbath, famous Brit rock band of the 70s)[/QUOTE]Great reading. Thank you.

Can't believe that Ozzy is in Cebu. If anyone else sees this legend, please let me know. Imagine to share a beer with Ozzy, looking at the slow_walk_dance at Red Lips. That would be historical.

B.

Returned to my room this morning with Daisy and her kids after breakfast and as I am cleaning my teeth in the bathroom Daisy strolls in, and out of the blue says "would you like to fuck a young girl today?" I was a bit taken aback as this was totally unexpected though Daisy does know about my insatiable and constant urge to fuck 18 and 19 year olds.

Daisy then announces to me she has a cousin living in a slum area close to Ayalla Mall who has a couple of daughters in desperate need of money. With thoughts of doing an altruistic deed and with a broad smile on my face, I tell Daisy "OK I am always willing to help out a girl in need."

Half an hour later we are in a taxi in an area I did not recognise though I could see the outline of the Marriot at Ayalla on the skyline close to where we were. We got out of the taxi the fare was 60 pesos from the Waterfront, into a bustling street with run down shops lined along both sides of the road. Daisy clearly knew where she was going once out of the taxi and I just followed. Across the street we went, zig zagging through the traffic until we entered a narrow, dingy alleyway with slum dwellings hidden from view, crammed together like a makeshift camp along the length of the alleyway. We reached the end and took a left until we reached a ramshackle hut, leaning a a slight angle with a corrugated tin roof. The occupants came out all greeting Daisy affectionately, hugging her and kissing her and talking at a feverish pitch. The smell of cooking and other odours permeated the air and it was difficult to hear anything above the din of dogs barking and baying wildly, and numerous cockerels crowing.

I met two very young mothers, one of whom was 14 and had an 18 month old son cradled in her arms and the other mom was 15 with another baby boy aged one year. It was a depressing sight to see mothers who are still kids themselves, living in abject poverty with no hope whatsover of ever seeing salvation from their plight. One of the mothers asked Daisy to buy her some bread because her and her baby were hungry and that was quite a humbling experience. I managed to slip her a 50 pesos note when no one else was looking, for fear of having them descend on me like a hungry pack of dogs, not that I was in any danger there. But once you have been seen to give to one, then they will all expect a cut.

Daisy made no secret why she was visiting and I felt just a little uncomfortable having the whole neighbourhood knowing I was there to find an 18 year old girl to fuck but it was too late by now and in any case the locals seemed completely unfazed as though this was a perfectly natural and understandable request from a foreign man. Within minutes I had two young girls, one 18 and one 19 parading shyly in front of me. The problem was that they looked like slum girls and even though they were both more than willing to come back with me, they would have looked completely alien dressed the way they were and going to a place like the Waterfront.

Once word got out that some rich foreigner was looking for a girl, I had other teenage girls turn up, like sharks circling their prey ready to move in for the kill and offering to keep me company. I began to feel uncomfortable with all the attention focused on me and I told Daisy we would return another time when her kids were not with us, as I did not want to expose them any longer to this kind of situation. To be honest I never expected Daisy to behave with such lack of discretion and I just expected her to be more discreet and diplomatic, I was of course sorely disappointed. The young girls that had come to greet me, seemed disappointed that I was leaving empty handed but I just felt it was the right thing to do at that time.

It was a remarkable but brief experience, showing the real underbelly of Cebu City and a place I would never have ventured, had I not had Daisy to guide me. Once out of the alleyays and back out onto the main street, it took us no more than 15 minutes to walk to Starbucks outside Ayalla.

[QUOTE=Mortman; 1174590]Returned to my room this morning with Daisy and her kids after breakfast and as I am cleaning my teeth in the bathroom Daisy strolls in, and out of the blue says "would you like to fuck a young girl today?" I was a bit taken aback as this was totally unexpected though Daisy does know about my insatiable and constant urge to fuck 18 and 19 year olds.

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Wow good story. I like your story telling. And its an amazing situation,

I am in the middle. Sometimes reading the story I want to go there and fuck as many of the 18 year olds as I can,

Then the other part of me says it is such a sad situation. The poverty and desperation and I feell like I am exploiting for.

My own self gratification?

You made a good move for many reasons to leave the neighborhood. But also as you say they are happy that a foreigner.

Will come there and share some of the wealth. And they all want to give what they have in trade?

I am not sure I would have left. I may have just gone in with one of them? But when you are in the environment sometimes.

It has more influence on your conscience. (conscious) spelling?

I am interested to read more of the stories if you have more expierences. As many of us just stick to the bars or dia?

And don't really expierence some of the other areas of life in the city.

[QUOTE=Mortman;1174590]It was a remarkable but brief experience, showing the real underbelly of Cebu City and a place I would never have ventured, had I not had Daisy to guide me. Once out of the alleyays and back out onto the main street, it took us no more than 15 minutes to walk to Starbucks outside Ayalla.[/QUOTE]Welcome to the real Philippines.

I would like more punters to see what you saw so that they can see the other side of their actions here in PI, those squatter areas are the places that supply girls for the bars, the first 2 you would have seen are ones that could not get work in the bars so they rely on friend to pimp them out, they may get lucky and end up as domestic helpers on 1500. 2500 peso a month. I know the area well and it is run by one gang, there the drug shabu is the are the main source of cash. It use to be one of the worst place in cebu but you can see around the area has many empty lots now.

When I use to rent a house in the squatter area and had the police / some official department turn up asking if the girls I had living with me where kidnapped, they spoke to the girls, (I found out after they left what they where asking) , some one had reported me. I use to drink and play poker with the "standby" (unemployed) , I did not have any of the girls from the area as I lived there and the local guys do not really like us taking their girls, one day I had a drug seller (they call them drug lords) accuse me of having sex with his gf, he ended up bashing some other poor guy, I went a saw my police friends to fix my problem. He has changed the way he treats me. I now live in a more dangerous area, so I do not mix with the standby now, my police friend would rather I live in another area.

[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1174628]Welcome to the real Philippines.

I would like more punters to see what you saw so that they can see the other side of their actions here in PI, those squatter areas are the places that supply girls for the bars, the first 2 you would have seen are ones that could not get work in the bars so they rely on friend to pimp them out, they may get lucky and end up as domestic helpers on 1500. 2500 peso a month. I know the area well and it is run by one gang, there the drug shabu is the are the main source of cash. It use to be one of the worst place in cebu but you can see around the area has many empty lots now.

When I use to rent a house in the squatter area and had the police / some official department turn up asking if the girls I had living with me where kidnapped, they spoke to the girls, (I found out after they left what they where asking) , some one had reported me. I use to drink and play poker with the "standby" (unemployed) , I did not have any of the girls from the area as I lived there and the local guys do not really like us taking their girls, one day I had a drug seller (they call them drug lords) accuse me of having sex with his gf, he ended up bashing some other poor guy, I went a saw my police friends to fix my problem. He has changed the way he treats me. I now live in a more dangerous area, so I do not mix with the standby now, my police friend would rather I live in another area.[/QUOTE]Frenzy your post begs one obvious question. Why would anyone choose to live in a squatter area or the area I have described?

PS I am not new to these kinds of areas as you will see from some of my old posts, but I would never consider living there even if I was desperate.

[QUOTE=Mortman; 1174641]Frenzy your post begs one obvious question. Why would anyone choose to live in a squatter area or the area I have described?

PS I am not new to these kinds of areas as you will see from some of my old posts, but I would never consider living there even if I was desperate.[/QUOTE]You meet my gf This is where she grew up. Most of the girls I meet are close by just not next door to me, I find better looking girls are ready for p4p in these areas and they do not tell any one what we do. Hence why I offer a finders fee. I am in labangon and get girls from here and jeepney ride away. I use to live in a better area and it did not work for my girls as they always had to take taxi, and the neighbors talk one even thought I was doing cyber sex. You are also more likely to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] some one big off in those areas. Here I just have to worry about gangs but they seem to worry about me. Next time you are in town I show you the place you will see why most PI live in Cebu like this. The area I live now is rough but I never feel unsafe. The girls all know the street as it has a reputation. Even today I walk down my street I saw 2 hot girls who smiled to me which I know what that means. I have guys visit me and even they comment on what they see just visiting me.

When I get older I may change but for now it works. I still look 30 and big so it will not work for others.

[QUOTE=Frenzy3; 1174667]You meet my gf This is where she grew up. Most of the girls I meet are close by just not next door to me, I find better looking girls are ready for p4p in these areas and they do not tell any one what we do. Hence why I offer a finders fee. I am in labangon and get girls from here and jeepney ride away. I use to live in a better area and it did not work for my girls as they always had to take taxi, and the neighbors talk one even thought I was doing cyber sex. You are also more likely to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] some one big off in those areas. Here I just have to worry about gangs but they seem to worry about me. Next time you are in town I show you the place you will see why most PI live in Cebu like this. The area I live now is rough but I never feel unsafe. The girls all know the street as it has a reputation. Even today I walk down my street I saw 2 hot girls who smiled to me which I know what that means. I have guys visit me and even they comment on what they see just visiting me.

When I get older I may change but for now it works. I still look 30 and big so it will not work for others.[/QUOTE]F3 I don't wish to be argumentative with you and this is not intended as a flame but your argument for living in a slum area is just illogical to me. There are thousands of Foreigners living here, the vast majority of them living in good areas, with nice properties and security, who spend most of their retired lives hunting local pussy. I know many expats and none of them describe the kind of problems you seemed to have encountered, maybe you have just been unfortunate? But why would living in a nice area and doing the things we are all here to enjoy, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] someone big off? Does not make any sense to me. If you are more comfortable living in a slum area then that is cool for you, but I don't think it makes you safer because you like mongering and I just don't think the advantages you claim it gives, provides enough of a reason to live there. I have just walked back from the South Bus Terminal to Robinsons and had several hot girls make eye contact and smile at me, I think you will find that all over Cebu not just in your street!

[quote=frenzy3;1174667]most of the girls i meet are close by just not next door to me, i find better looking girls are ready for p4p in these areas and they do not tell any one what we do. hence why i offer a finders fee.[/quote]i'm having trouble following this logic. if you offer a finder's fee, doesn't that mean some women are out spreading the word that you're looking for sex with young pinays? and if they are spreading the word, doesn't this mean telling other people what it is you do with the women when they come to your place?

setting aside the rationale for your modus operandi, you and mortman have opened up a very informative discussion. i have spent some time in a couple of different squatter communities in metro manila and have seen what the two of you are discussing. i suspect a very large number of freelancers, and maybe even a substantial portion of those employed in the bars, actually live in these communities. the teenage pregnancies mortman described are obviously common. this illuminates the paradox (and stupidity) of the church preaching abstinence until marriage and no contraception, when the reality is that poor, unemployed, testosterone-charged pinoys are eagerly jumping the bones of unsuspecting girls as soon as any sign of hips or breasts start to swell from their bony little bodies. some times it may be a boyfriend, a few years older, who has little or no sexual experience himself, and persuades the girl to help him release his hormonal urges. other times it's an act of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] from an older male who threatens the girl with harm if she tells anybody what happened. so imagine our freelancers and bargirls coming from these backgrounds, and even traveling to-and-from their homes in the slum to bid their trade with us.

how does a girl get from the slum to the monger hangout to attempt her first p4p? perhaps a girlfriend starts to show up with lots of unexplained money and then secretly offers to show the girl how to do likewise. others figure it out from hearing and observing bits and pieces and then borrow jeepney fare and take a first courageous trip to some mongering haunt they've heard about. it's no accident most of our girls have children: they're in the business because they have mouths to feed. with time (and success?) many of them become very professionally hardened, of course, so that the working girl we see has all these life situation realities pretty well covered over.

mortman, a suggestion: if you actually found any of the young women attractive, why not designate which one (s) and ask daisy to bring her (them) to your hotel? the slum clothes you saw are perfectly ordinary in the alleyways of the slum, but often they have a set of church clothes, former school uniform, or other nice clothes they could put on if they understand the importance of doing so. if it's important enough to make some money they will borrow clothes from a neighbor. also, by getting the girl out of the slum you remove her from the spying eyes of her neighbors. neighbors don't need to know where daisy is taking them. but make sure to offer up transportation money-in advance if possible.

btw, passing 50 pesos discreetly to daisy may make you feel better about the starkness of the exchange but does not fool the slum dwellers. because you are the foreigner they assume you are the one with money. they ask daisy because they fully expect her to be the conduit for asking you for the money. so whether the money is passed in the open or in private, they know where it's coming from. daisy, of course, is in a very interesting role. they have to work to convince her of the urgency of their request, and she then gets pushed into this odd dynamic of having to figure out what is too much to ask you, how giving a few pesos to one will create expectations for equivalent help from another and so on. you are right to try to dodge everybody's outstretched hands. everybody there is dirt poor, many may be near starving, and you can't help them all. but for all your anticipation of the problems, daisy's role is far more challenging.

thanks for sharing your experiences. this kind of discussion helps others in the forum understand where most of our girls are coming from.

[QUOTE=Mortman; 1173972]Arrived in Cebu from HK on Tuesday and landed at Mactan. I don't know why but I still feel nervous every time I walk through customs having filled out my customs form with nothing to declare and as usual I having a suitcase full of cheap cell phones, jewellery and other assorted gifts. I have never ever been stopped in the Philippines, but I always feel anxious as I pass by customs in Mactan.

As I was completing my immigration forms on the plane I realised I have made a stupid mistake with my travel plans. I booked a trip that lasts about 25 days and forgot about the 21 day visa on arrival. Those 3 or 4 extra days are going to cost me dearly, I think it is about 10, 000 pesos to extend to 28 days and the immigration guy told me not to worry I can sort this out when I am leaving. Have any of you guys done this as you are leaving, I am just worried I will be given a hard time for overstaying my visa, even if it is only a few days. Maybe I am better just extending it before my departure date, anyone got any advice?

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I overstayed last time by 7 or 8 days. Do not do anything. It is cheaper (as long as you do not overstay weeks) and saves time if you just go to the airport upon departure. They they send you to another boot with a cashier and you pay X times 100 or 200 pesos. Problem solved. Not even an angry face.

[QUOTE=Mortman; 1174314]Arranged to meet a sweet looking 18 year old DIA girl at 6. 30pm tonight outside Bo's coffee shop on the first floor outdoor terrace of Ayalla. I arrived at about 7pm and sent her a text protesting I had been waitng 45 minutes for her, and demanding to know where she was. She texted me back promising she was not far away and true to her word she finally appeared at about 7. 20pm, so almost an hour late.

Seems she lives with her her auntie, and they obviously do not have much money as the household does not even have a TV. Emily did not once ask me for money, she did not give me any bad luck stories and not the slightest hint of any expectation of cash.[/QUOTE]Oops. Is this mexxx in dia, phone ends at 010? She arrived alone as well, and all above seems to be the same. . Anyway, hot gurl, nice eyes. She left me Friday morn, and back for a quickie this Sunday evening. (apparently she did not meet you Sunday, or?)

Mortman, please reply. I am a bit curious to know.

Long time ago, I have stopped trusting the girls here. Some going from one to the other. Just like we do. And have their cover stories, just like we do.
My Emili said thursday she had no foreigner before, which I found hard to believe.

[QUOTE=Girlfinder;1175064]. My Emili said thursday she had no foreigner before, which I found hard to believe.[/QUOTE]Sadly, I think we have all heard this line before. We would all love to believe it too, but its just like that movie title "Say it aint so ".

We are never the first foreigner they have met, and never the first one between their sweet thighs.