[QUOTE=Harold444;1266056]I have MLB subscription-had no problem using it on true internet cafe computers. Do you get nausea watching games on such a small screen?[/QUOTE]I watch in iPad2, I listen to radio broadcast in iPhone 4s!
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[QUOTE=Harold444;1266056]I have MLB subscription-had no problem using it on true internet cafe computers. Do you get nausea watching games on such a small screen?[/QUOTE]I watch in iPad2, I listen to radio broadcast in iPhone 4s!
[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1265633]If you've got an iTouch, iPhone or even better an iPad, subscribe to MLB 12. You can either listen to broadcasts or for $14. 00 one time shot, watch games for the entire season. You might need a VPN to mask Thailand IP. I think there is a more expensive subscription for the computer.[/QUOTE]For $14 you can watch the games? It looks like I would need the MLB tv subscription to watch the games?
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1266131]For $14 you can watch the games? It looks like I would need the MLB tv subscription to watch the games?[/QUOTE]My bad, $14. 99 / yr for radio broadcasts plus videos. You need to upgrade to MLB Premium for $24. 99 or $27. 99 for live games. Go to iTunes store, MLB at Bat for more details.
Listened to Mets opener two days ago, and Yankees opener yesterday on my iPhone 4s
[QUOTE=Harold444;1266135]You such a nice guy. Hint. Vipbox. Tv works and is very good for sports enthusiasts. Several sites like it.[/QUOTE]Thanks! Just PM me your favorite charity and I'll donate them with all the money I saved.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1265534]Difficult choice: either one LT from an agogo or one Sunday brunch.[/QUOTE]Not sure if you are being facetious, but either way the Sunday brunch last time I was there was much more memorable and decadent than a lot of the LTs from Gogos I've had. However I was in the middle of my first '3 girls and I' experience in Pattaya this morning, so couldn't tear myself away. On reflection, if it weren't for photos and video for later enjoyment, I would possibly favour the brunch (the brunch was Farking good when I was there last time; the foursome was 2 girls I've had a threesome with twice on this trip the third girl wasn't a good performer; and I think my sex-marathon so far has temporarily killed my Modjo).
[QUOTE=Franco Cozzo;1266727]Not sure if you are being facetious, but either way the Sunday brunch last time I was there was much more memorable and decadent than a lot of the LTs from Gogos I've had.[/QUOTE]I think he is trying to point out the lack of value in the Sunday brunch, so not exactly facetious. Take a LT and have several extended sex sessions to help loose weight instead. I have been known to waste money on expensive restaurants as well as on girls, but am trying to give up the very high restaurant bills. If you take a Thai girl to a restaurant and drop 5K (yeh I did that just once at the French restaurant) , believe me, she won't be impressed unless she is "high so" and even then she won't. Take 2 or 3 girls to your room and have something much more memorable and decadent.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1266733]I think he is trying to point out the lack of value in the Sunday brunch, so not exactly facetious.[/QUOTE]Indeed. There is only so much one can eat in one brunch session. I would not even pay these prices in Europe for a brunch.
Come to think of it, same goes for multi-player mongering sessions. I have done my fair share of three-somes, but a four-some (MFFF) does not seem to add anything extra. There is always one who is sitting idle. Or perhaps I have not yet got the right technique. Not to mention that there will already be a definite lack of dry/clean towels even before you have started the games. And if there is anything a Thai girl hates, it is not being able to shyly wrap herself in some fluffy towel when leaving the shower.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1266736]Come to think of it, same goes for multi-player mongering sessions. I have done my fair share of three-somes, but a four-some (MFFF) does not seem to add anything extra. There is always one who is sitting idle. Or perhaps I have not yet got the right technique. Not to mention that there will already be a definite lack of dry/clean towels even before you have started the games. And if there is anything a Thai girl hates, it is not being able to shyly wrap herself in some fluffy towel when leaving the shower.[/QUOTE]Yes you made me laugh. Its true that multi-girls will not be best value for money. So I have had 3 girls only on about 3 occasions. I try to save it for girls who will keen to give each other DATY, so that no need be left out. However you are right that often one girl may become a temporary bystander. It can be more like a tag team wrestling match. Its very important to get girls that are more than comfortable with each other. The other circumstance is when your regular girl is entertaining two very sexy hot close friends for her birthday, and you feel like no one should be left out of the party. I can afford it once in a while, but normally take only one or two at a time.
I end up using the hand towels myself and leaving the good sized towels for the girls. I remember that another multi-girl monger used to ask Hotel reception for extra towels with multi-girls in tow (no shame at all) , so when I catch the room maid coming to do the room, I ask for extra towels too, with tip given. AP Hotel is used to me arriving with more than one girl. They are often lazy to check girls Ids. I often have to remind girls to be not so rauchously happy, having been loosened up with tequilas, since other guests may be trying to sleep late at night. The Japanese long term guests probably have to go to work in the morning.
Ok, I realize that this might be a stupid question. But still. Is anal sex considered ok I Thailand? I am talking about bar girls. Do they charge extra baht? Do I have to ask them before going to the hotel if the do this?
[QUOTE=Awesome Man;1267108]Ok, I realize that this might be a stupid question. But still. Is anal sex considered ok I Thailand? I am talking about bar girls. Do they charge extra baht? Do I have to ask them before going to the hotel if the do this?[/QUOTE]As far as I am aware there is no law against it.
It is a good practice to discuss your wishes before you engage the services of the BG. That avoids disappointment later. Don't be shy or ashamed: they will have heard (and probably, done) it all already.
Anything beyond the standard suck-and-fuck is likely to attract an extra cost. Again, discuss it beforehand.
Some establishments (like Eden Club) offer it as part of their basic service.
A friend of mine just emailed me with me bad news. He arrived in BKK for the first time ever, and in his excitement for holiday, he forgot to pack clean underwear. He's somewhat big boned and wears size 42. Is there anyplace where I can steer him in the right direction? I can't recall finding plus sized clothing in Thailand (not that I've been looking)
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1267615]A friend of mine just emailed me with me bad news. He arrived in BKK for the first time ever, and in his excitement for holiday, he forgot to pack clean underwear. He's somewhat big boned and wears size 42. Is there anyplace where I can steer him in the right direction? I can't recall finding plus sized clothing in Thailand (not that I've been looking)[/QUOTE]Just steer him into any of the big shopping malls. Many of them stock European brands (unfortunately at European prices too) so there should be a few items that match his size. If not, any tailor that can make a suit in 24 hours should be able to cobble some underwear together, I'd think. Consider it, underwear-made-to-measure! How decadent can you get?
I'll be sure to tell him. Meeting up with him soon for a few days, then he's off to Pattaya for 2 weeks which I will not accompany him. I doubt they would have his size, but what about JJ's Market?
Your friend might have better luck finding big sizes in Pattaya. Lots of big Euro types go there to shop these days. Their wives must buy them underwear?
I was in Mike's Shopping Center recently with a friend who was buying a t-shirt. I told him to be sure to take it out of the package to see how big it was. Sure enough, the size he selected was at least one size smaller than he would get at home in 'Merika. He up-sized.
Come to think of it, many of the girls I see are up-sized these days in Pattaya, too! Must be a market adjustment. ;)
Sizes in Thailand or Pattaya is as noted one size smaller that like in the USA, a small is like a x-small, medium is a small etc. Not sure what you are looking for but there is a outside booth at Big C, Central, it is just outside the large sporting good store, it might be next to the luggage booth. I noticed that they sell only large sizes like XL, XXL, XXXL.
Good luck, LBM
I bought a couple pairs of jeans on Sukhumvit in BKK one time, size 38. I was happy with the purchase until I got to the hotel and tried to try them on. They must have been a USA 34 because they were way to small. I returned them and got my money back because that was the biggest size they had.
Shit, ISG is still one of the worst Looking Forums out there. Is it just me or the look and feel sucks?
I'm not complaining. Just throwing the idea out there.
Guys, do you know if new plastic $100 bills are accepted in exchange offices? Going there soon and like to travel light.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Smiley27; 1268774]Guys, do you know if new plastic $100 bills are accepted in exchange offices? Going there soon and like to travel light.
Thanks![/QUOTE]Seems too risky to carry large amounts of cash IMHO. Traveller's Cheques are lighter still, and attract good exchange rates.
I used to use AMEX t / see years ago.
I just xfer to my Thai Bank Account, so don't use either cash or T / C any more.
I think other plastic currencies have been around for quite some time.
[QUOTE=Smiley27; 1268774]Guys, do you know if new plastic $100 bills are accepted in exchange offices? Going there soon and like to travel light.
Thanks![/QUOTE]Just came back last week, no problem xchanging these new bills
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1268485]Shit, ISG is still one of the worst Looking Forums out there. Is it just me or the look and feel sucks?
I'm not complaining. Just throwing the idea out there.[/QUOTE]ISG has been fine without you for a long time, why not go back to the other forums you use.
I'm not complaining. Just throwing the idea out there.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1268485]Shit, ISG is still one of the worst Looking Forums out there. Is it just me or the look and feel sucks?
I'm not complaining. Just throwing the idea out there.[/QUOTE]Yeah, its just you and your attitude.
[QUOTE=The Pro; 1269261]ISG has been fine without you for a long time, why not go back to the other forums you use.
I'm not complaining. Just throwing the idea out there.[/QUOTE]Nah, I'll stick around here and make sure I annoy you. Maybe I'll even pay you a visit in Pattaya
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1268485]Shit, ISG is still one of the worst Looking Forums out there. Is it just me or the look and feel sucks?
I'm not complaining. Just throwing the idea out there.[/QUOTE]An old-fashioned spare and Spartan look is best, Nic. We don't want to see a lot of new-fangled effects. They only serve to distract the serious reporter and reader.
Tell him to be a real man and go Commando!
[QUOTE=Awesome Man;1267108]Ok, I realize that this might be a stupid question. But still. Is anal sex considered ok I Thailand? I am talking about bar girls. Do they charge extra baht? Do I have to ask them before going to the hotel if the do this?[/QUOTE]From my experiences, I'd say your best bet are massage girls (from places like Mango in BKK, where many girls have A+ (anal) next to their profiles) and FLs from beach Road in Pattaya; though you will find a few bargirls and even the odd Gogo girl.
Some massage girls / establishments will include anal price in fees. Most FLs and BGs have charged me an extra 300. 500 THB.
[QUOTE=Franco Cozzo;1271349]From my experiences, I'd say your best bet are massage girls (from places like Mango in BKK, where many girls have A+ (anal) next to their profiles) and FLs from beach Road in Pattaya; though you will find a few bargirls and even the odd Gogo girl. Most FLs and BGs have charged me an extra 300. 500 THB.[/QUOTE]
I agree about the high-service oily-massage type places. Outside of those, in general the best way to understand anal is - it is generally a sales strategy for older, somewhat less desired providers to still get lots of customers. It is quite rare for young/cute girls to do it, even though there might be a premium fee available. Its much more common for older women to offer it at no extra charge - its really what ensures them a lot of customers.
Still, only about 10% will do it.
[QUOTE=Opebo;1270977]An old-fashioned spare and Spartan look is best, Nic. We don't want to see a lot of new-fangled effects. They only serve to distract the serious reporter and reader.[/QUOTE]You are so right! I stand Corrected
[url]http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2012/04/19/is-legalized-prostitution-safer[/url]
Your feedback, gentlemen?
Sex is the most practical and funniest way of losing weight. Look how many calories you can burn:
TAKING OFF THE CLOTHES.
With her agreement. 12 cal.
Without her agreement. 187 cal.
TAKING OFF THE BRA.
With both hands. 8 cal.
With one hand. 12 cal.
With one hand being slapped. 37 cal.
With the mouth. 85 cal.
PUTTING ON THE CONDOM.
With erection. 6 cal.
Without erection. 315 cal.
PRELIMINARIES.
Trying to find the clitoris. 8 cal.
Trying to find G spot. 92 cal.
Without caring at all. 0 cal.
WHEN DOING IT.
Holding her up. 12 cal.
Just on the floor. 8 cal.
POSITIONS.
Daddy-mummy. 12 cal.
69 laying. 8 cal.
69 standing up. 112 cal.
Trolley. 216 cal.
Italian chandelier. 912 cal.
HAVING AN ORGASM.
Real. 112 cal.
Fake. 315 cal.
POST ORGASM.
Staying in bed. 18 cal.
Jumping off the bed. 36 cal.
Explaining why she jumped off the bed. 816 cal.
GETTING THE SECOND ERECTION.
Between 16 and 19 years of age. 12 cal.
From 20 to 29. 36 cal.
From 30 to 39. 108 cal.
From 40 to 49. 324 cal.
From 50 to 59. 972 cal.
Over 60. 2916 cal.
PUTTING ON THE CLOTHES.
Quietly. 32 cal.
Being in a hurry. 98 cal.
With her husband opening the door. 1218 cal
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1271623]Sex is the most practical and funniest way of losing weight.[/QUOTE]I did seriously think about trying to use sex as a means of losing weight. This would mean giving up all drinking except for plain water, and every time I get the urge to eat something other than salad and fish, make it a delicious pussy. I'm sure sex could distract me from much of my bad eating habits.
BJs and cowgirl would unfortunately not be allowed as guy would not be burning enough calories. Doggy and other energetic positions would be recommended. At least some calories could be burned.
[quote=opebo; 1272898]the demise of our fun will not be because of any 'anti-poverty' efforts of the current regime, but primarily due to the enormous decline in the thai birthrate. there simply aren't very many young people to replenish positions which (in theory) require a modicum of attractiveness, and after all, they haven't been driven to it by desperate poverty as such for a decade or more. its just easy, big money.
if there is any regime-effect it will be the ever-increasing prudery and social control which is brought on by democracy. 'one is most free under a disinterested potentate, and least free under the dictatorship of the majority of one's peers'.[/quote]as i see it, thailand will remain a third world poverty stricken nation forever, so tgs will never stop fleeing the skin blackening heat of the rice fields to spread their legs for riches.
it is simply a matter of world economics (we have the dough, they don't) and supply & demand, not "birthrate". the thai birthrate has been continually declining since 1960, yet that hasn't caused the "demise" of the thai sex industry which services foreigners, so why should it do so in the future? instead the business has grown from nothing to being a significant part of the thai economy today.
prostitution is a longstanding thai institution that isn't going anywhere. but democracy in thailand is a show of a face for the western world that is only valid until the next coup, vote buying, court ruling, or behind the scenes deal with the power elite.
"if prostitution was simply about poverty we could have expected a contraction of the sex industry in countries with fast-developing economies. but during the 1980's and 1990's the sex industry in countries like thailand, the phillipines, malaysia and indonesia expanded as the standard of living of large sections of the population improved" {page 30}.
"in thailand daughters are cast into the role of caretakers of the family. as in the rest of south-east asia girls are expected to pay back their "breast milk money". in areas where prostitution of girls is well established, families may expect pretty daughters to enter prostitution. in areas of taiwan their is a tolerant attitude to women supporting their parents through prostitution. exactly the same holds true for prostitute-recruiting grounds in napal, indonesia, the phillipines, thailand, india and southern china" {p. 34}.
"a woman is thought to have been born as a woman because of bad karma. in order to overcome this disadvantage a woman has to make more religious merit than men. according to the theraveda buddhist tradition of thailand and burma, a son may make merit by becoming a monk for a few months. but for a daughter there is no similar option. instead she is encouraged to make merit by caring for her parents. if she does this well, and earns money for her family, she can, conceivably, be reborn as a man in her next life. this desire to help their families has been identified as a powerful factor pushing young women into prostitution in thailand" {p. 40}.
". in provinces of northern thailand like chiang mai and chiang rai. the whole community accepts sex work. and this includes officials and religious organizations because, ultimately, they all benefit financially from the trade {p. 53}.
"a crucial turning point comes when the daughters of former prostitutes are sent to the city for sex work. it takes a generation. perhaps two. and then prostitution becomes a profession and a standard career 'choice' for girls from poor communities who almost invariably have limited education and minimal skills. this process has only occurred in pockets throughout asia but the phenomenon is spreading and a greater and greater number of girls are being reared for prostitution" {p. 53-54}.
"a {thai} study in 1990 {found} 60% of families sending daughters to the brothels were not forced to do so because of acute poverty. instead they were motivated by the desire to own consumer goods like televisions and videos. all the young ethnic thai girls who 'go south' are not dragged screaming to the brothels. only rarely are they held in captivity" {p. 54-55}.
"parents are not solely to blame. the perpetrators of {prostitution} in places like thailand are not just individuals but are entire social, political, {sexual} and economic systems" {p. 55}.
"thailand has a well-deserved reputation as the world's brothel. it has an enormous domestic market in which the majority of thai men are enthusiastic consumers" {p. 81}.
"thai male sexual culture actively promotes male promiscuity and the purchase of sex" {p. 132}.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2186-pattaya-reports&p=1194304&highlight=prostitution#post1194304[/url]
Where can one find white (euro / Russian / latin) girls in Bangkok and Pattaya and what price would one expect to pay? What age range (any young?) and attractive level will they be? Are these girls as hot as the Eastern Europeans in Germany etc?
[QUOTE=Super Cum 500;1276421]Where can one find white (euro / Russian / latin) girls in Bangkok and Pattaya and what price would one expect to pay? What age range (any young?) and attractive level will they be? Are these girls as hot as the Eastern Europeans in Germany etc?[/QUOTE]They would be found in the "Foreign Sex Workers in Thailand" thread.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1273255]As I see it, Thailand will remain a third world poverty stricken nation forever, so TGs will never stop fleeing the skin blackening heat of the rice fields to spread their legs for riches.
"Thai male sexual culture actively promotes male promiscuity and the purchase of sex" {p. 132}.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=1194304&highlight=prostitution#post1194304[/url][/QUOTE]What book are you quoting from? Some claims sounds like a bunch of hogwash to me. E. G. If there are 2 daughters and one son, why is it that only one daughter becomes a prostitute (contrary to what is quoted). Why not both as per your reasoning.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1276679]What book are you quoting from? Some claims sounds like a bunch of hogwash to me. E. G. If there are 2 daughters and one son, why is it that only one daughter becomes a prostitute (contrary to what is quoted). Why not both as per your reasoning.[/QUOTE]I don't know what reasoning you are referring to. Nothing you quoted implies what you state about it.
As for the book title, it was given at the link I posted.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1276541]They would be found in the "Foreign Sex Workers in Thailand" thread.[/QUOTE]Thanks never noticed or looked for that.
Dammit,
No matter how much I try to fight these "non-Pros" off, they seem to find their way back.
Don't get me wrong, these are perfectly normal Thai girls, with a regular job, most have been deceived by a Thai bf before and were "pushed" by a friend to join dating sites to find something "Different".
First hurdle: get the girl interested, Chat and get her to chat back and be interested talking with you.
Few messages later, girls open up and start to feel comfortable, chat freely and things get very naughty very fast.
Chatting is one thing but getting them to meet in an environment which limits "things to do" to sex, sex or sex is very difficult, in fact, it is THE most difficult hurdle in my opinion. But when one has the perfect story and technique, success rate is in the high 80s. And I am not Joking.
During the past 2 years, I have been very busy doing all of that and I was so successful that it kept me completely away from P4P.
Not so long ago I decided that I had enough of regular girls and wanted something different (Don't we all?)
However, for those of you that have had relations with non p4p girls, you will know what I mean when I say that these girls don't have for habit to be fucked properly. Thai Guys limit themselves to Mish-Doggy. Many girls have confessed that their ex-boyfriends never made them cum.
I have not cancelled all my "Dating Sites" Accounts and found some girls are still messaging. I guess they can't find a good Farang around?
There are a lot of girls 25+ that have given up on Thai guys and are ready to hook up with farangs.
I am now in a lower Sukhumvit Hotel. Waiting for a girls to show up. I am meeting her in person for the first time.
hey Frenchy,
What sites do you recommend? I once made a ThaiLoveLinks account, looks good, never bothered to pay to message though.
How did you get the girl to meet you in a hotel on the first time? :)
[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1277012]hey Frenchy,
What sites do you recommend? I once made a ThaiLoveLinks account, looks good, never bothered to pay to message though.
How did you get the girl to meet you in a hotel on the first time? .[/QUOTE]Hey Chill Out.
My primary site for Getting Girls is Tagged and to a lesser degree Camfrog (but that takes considerable amount of patience and hard work).
Tagged is Free, you can message and do more than enough stuff to guarantee a shag if you want to.
Obviously, girls prefer expats over tourists, but I am sure things can be done.
As for how I do it, I'm not spilling the beans.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1276977]I have not cancelled all my "Dating Sites" Accounts and found some girls are still messaging. I guess they can't find a good Farang around?[/QUOTE]Yes, unfortunately for them I live in Chiang Mai.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1276977]Dammit,
No matter how much I try to fight these "non-Pros" off, they seem to find their way back.
Don't get me wrong, these are perfectly normal Thai girls, with a regular job, most have been deceived by a Thai bf before and were "pushed" by a friend to join dating sites to find something "Different".
First hurdle: get the girl interested, Chat and get her to chat back and be interested talking with you.
Few messages later, girls open up and start to feel comfortable, chat freely and things get very naughty very fast.
Chatting is one thing but getting them to meet in an environment which limits "things to do" to sex, sex or sex is very difficult, in fact, it is THE most difficult hurdle in my opinion. But when one has the perfect story and technique, success rate is in the high 80s. And I am not Joking.[/QUOTE]Don't forget to give them money. They may be to shy to ask, but according to popular opinion you are supposed to force it on them anyway.[QUOTE=Werqweq;1277019]Yes, unfortunately for them I live in Chiang Mai.[/QUOTE]What is wrong with living in CM? I have met chicks from Tagged and TLL in Chiang Mai. It was all good.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1277116]What is wrong with living in CM? I have met chicks from Tagged and TLL in Chiang Mai. It was all good.[/QUOTE]I said unfortunately for them, not unfortunately for me.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1277116]Don't forget to give them money. They may be to shy to ask, but according to popular opinion you are supposed to force it on them anyway.What is wrong with living in CM? I have met chicks from Tagged and TLL in Chiang Mai. It was all good.[/QUOTE]Huh? They're not hookers, they don't want money. Many of them are repeats (saw them 5+ Times) , if they needed money they would have not returned to me.
Don't mix everything here. I don't go around taking FLs from Clubs. These ladies have jobs and are just looking for a good time. And a good Fuck.
Just watched "The Avengers" which, All in All was a pretty entertaining movie. The 3D was just OK, nothing to rave about.
My Rant is for all the Fuckers who bring their Kids, these little muppets are yakking away during the whole movie and then the mums start to talk. And next thing you know, it's tea time and the whole fucking Theatre is getting noisy. That will teach me to go watch a movie in the aternoon. Got to go in the late evening, when Thai guys bring their dates and when there are no kids around.
And can't they make this movie PG13? So that these nasty ass 8 year olds stay home playing super Mario on their PS3s?
well well, what's it been? a couple years?
can't even recall the last time i logged into isg but it must be about the same time.
ok, i'll start by saying that i don't like the look of the forum, i'll also add that i was surprised to see the same 3 sorry ass threads about massage:
annies: now annie's still open and obviously doing good since the going rate is not 2500 minimum. some old punters would be turning in their graves if only they knew. i mean, this business managed to almost double their prices in a couple years time, giving the excuse of: better girls, and emphasizing on being a legitimate parlor (whatever the hell that means since prostitution is illegal in thailand). better girls, now for expats like me, that means going there and seeing the same ol'girls and a couple fresh ones. does adding a few upgrades justify charging more for everything? arguable, but it seems annies is doing well so congrats.
tulip: now here's a joint that made a big name for itself by copying what barons have been doing a few years on a "small scale with a few girls" and taking it to become the whole shop's motto: no holes barred and cum as many times as you like. music to the ears of thousands of punters.
tulip's model grew so successful and was so talked about that a bunch of assholes kept complaining that they saw too many posts about tulip and that that joint was to be segregated. now they may have had a valid point since these village-idiots were listened to and that shit tulip thread created.
by the way, has tulip had any renovation lately? (and i'm not talking about a lightbulb change). i mean, they must be really feeling the heat of the competition with cherry, mango and snow white being fresher, better rooms, better girls. anyway, good luck to them.
and finally, the all except tulip or annies thread. now what a great name for a thread! damn, the genius that came up with that really outdid himself. i am speechless at the intelligently creative minds behind the scenes.
do these 3 threads really work? no way in hell, i'm sure newbies are even more lost than they used to be before. thanks to a few whiny fuckers that visit bangkok once a year, we're still segregated (expat thread) and still have these 3 meaningless threads. now anyone in their right mind would clean up that mess but after all the efforts of separating the threads, why bother?
what does this shows me? a total lack of care from the forum towards its members. i may be banned for saying that but i'm just saying what a lot of people are thinking.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1277507]Well well, what's it been? A couple years? Can't even recall the last time I logged into ISG but it must be about the same time. Ok, I'll start by saying that I don't like the Look of the Forum, I'll also add that I was surprised to see the same 3 sorry ass Threads about Massage: What does this shows me? A total lack of care from the forum towards its members. I may be banned for saying that but I'm just saying what a lot of people are thinking.[/QUOTE]In a softer tone, maybe I am just more indulgent, I share the opinion on the fact that soapies / MP's should be all down to ONE thread.
There should also be more cleaning here and there but it does not seem a priority. Thre is even a misterious new xxxx7 thread which reason for existance is beyond any logic (other than sone freaking out from the guy so that now has his own spacem that he does not bother to use at all)
Makes life complicate for the newbies, indeed.
Nothing quite like confusing one's personal preferences with The Only Right Way To Do It and then demanding the universe conform.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1277503]Just watched "The Avengers" which, All in All was a pretty entertaining movie. The 3D was just OK, nothing to rave about.
My Rant is for all the Fuckers who bring their Kids, these little muppets are yakking away during the whole movie and then the mums start to talk. And next thing you know, it's tea time and the whole fucking Theatre is getting noisy. That will teach me to go watch a movie in the aternoon. Got to go in the late evening, when Thai guys bring their dates and when there are no kids around.
And can't they make this movie PG13? So that these nasty ass 8 year olds stay home playing super Mario on their PS3s?[/QUOTE]And that is one reason, why I prefer to go on weekdays
Some families bring their nannies / maids, who can be damn annoying too.
Once in a while I take a normal thai massage too.
While I have my favorite masseuse in some famous places like the healthland massage branches.
But getting them on weekends can be very difficult, unless you book in advance, or have to wait for 1-2 hours.
So I have come to love this cozy little legit massage place in Soi 33 called Sabai Sabai (formerly named as Relax Beauty).
I usually spend a few hours whenever I am there, and avail of their services, quite a few of which are not available easily else where in Thailand.
I go for face massage, manicure, pedicure, waxing, (Brazilian Waxing is available for men too. For 400 Bahts Only!) , thai massage, foot massage.
About 5 skilled ladies work in groups and in a unhurried way.
Their services are available for both men and women, have seen, japanese women frequent the place, alongwith a a steady stream of thai ladies too.
For an afternoon of pampering, my hands legs back and face of about 4 hours, my bill came to 1200, which is half of my any mongering bill.
It is located on the end of the first right sub-soi of soi 33.
The phone number for directions is : 026620173.
Note : I am in no way benefiting from this post. I am just writing this because I really liked their services,
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1277501]Huh? They're not hookers, they don't want money. Many of them are repeats (saw them 5+ Times) , if they needed money they would have not returned to me.
Don't mix everything here. I don't go around taking FLs from Clubs. These ladies have jobs and are just looking for a good time. And a good Fuck.[/QUOTE]That is the same understanding that I have, however many of our brothers on the board do not share the same view. They think that if a woman in Thailand fucks you then she is expecting you to pay her. I've been bitched at in several threads for not giving money to freebies.
[QUOTE=AssLover945;1277607](Brazilian Waxing is available for men too. For 400 Bahts Only!)[/QUOTE]OMG that must hurt like a *****! Do they charge based on amount of Hair? LOL then I'd pay 5, 000 thb LOL
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1277733]That is the same understanding that I have, however many of our brothers on the board do not share the same view. They think that if a woman in Thailand fucks you then she is expecting you to pay her. I've been bitched at in several threads for not giving money to freebies.[/QUOTE]Really? That's weird, why would people intervene in a transaction they had nothing to do with? What's between you and the girl stays between you and the girl. You are kind enough to report it to us, people should be grateful.
I have developped a Great technique to get girls from online directly into bed but I fear if I post this here, then there will be a lot of poor girls in trouble. I am not sure all the readers here have 100% of their Sanity.
I used to receive PMs from guys who printed my reviews and went to see the girl and told them: I want you do SAme. Then ranting to me saying that the girl did not do this and that. From that day on, I opted to not tell the names of girls anymore.
We thing we are doing our Brotherhood good by helping and giving details, but we forget about the other fuckers roaming these boards with an agenda different from the rest of us.
Some things now I only share with Senior Members or Members I have met in Person
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1277116]Don't forget to give them money. They may be to shy to ask, but according to popular opinion you are supposed to force it on them anyway.What is wrong with living in CM? I have met chicks from Tagged and TLL in Chiang Mai. It was all good.[/QUOTE]Wow. If I did that to the girl I was seeing, she would be greatly offended. She drives, has a decent job, pays for the cinema, pays for dinner, cleans my condo, and does the dishes. It was almost too easy LOL
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1277818]OMG that must hurt like a *****! Do they charge based on amount of Hair? LOL then I'd pay 5, 000 thb LOL[/QUOTE]U got to try for yourself, if you interested. But one thing is clear, you are a hell of a hairy guy, as admitted LOLzzz.
:P
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1277836]Wow. If I did that to the girl I was seeing, she would be greatly offended. She drives, has a decent job, pays for the cinema, pays for dinner, cleans my condo, and does the dishes. It was almost too easy LOL[/QUOTE]I'd be a little careful if I were you.
I don't like girls paying for things like movies, Dinner and stuff, I don't want them buying their way into my life. Paying for you, Cleaning your place, dishes and all means she is your GF, she has access to your place and therefore she can see what is going on.
I like to keep a distance with the girls, so that one morning, I don't end up with my dick in between a pair of scissors and an angry girl at the other end asking compromising questions.
[QUOTE=AssLover945; 1277842]U got to try for yourself, if you interested. But one thing is clear, you are a hell of a hairy guy, as admitted LOLzzz.
:P[/QUOTE]Nah, I exaggerated, but still, it must hurt like hell.
What follows is a question which does not fit neatly into any ISG category but here goes!
Later this year I will probably be acompanying my 7 year old son to Bangkok for some medical investigations – these won't involve him being hospitalised. My wife will not be accompanying us. I would dearly love to go off and enjoy myself as I have done many times in the past but obviously my hands will be tied on this trip. It will literally be very frustrating to be in the middle of the action and unable to participate. I'm toying with the idea of staying in a reputable hotel which offers a "babysttting" service and then going off to do my own thing for a couple of hours. Just wondered if anyone had any other thoughts?
[QUOTE=Mcavity; 1278041]What follows is a question which does not fit neatly into any ISG category but here goes!
Later this year I will probably be acompanying my 7 year old son to Bangkok for some medical investigations – these won't involve him being hospitalised. My wife will not be accompanying us. I would dearly love to go off and enjoy myself as I have done many times in the past but obviously my hands will be tied on this trip. It will literally be very frustrating to be in the middle of the action and unable to participate. I'm toying with the idea of staying in a reputable hotel which offers a "babysttting" service and then going off to do my own thing for a couple of hours. Just wondered if anyone had any other thoughts?[/QUOTE]1. How long will the Medical investigations take? Which hospital will you be going to?
Some Hospitals have Rooms for Parents / relatives closeby.
2. You can always book a suite with 2 bedrooms in any hotel and order a girl to be in your room while your Son Sleeps.
3. Tell your son you are getting some suits made, get a Nanny to take him to the Movies and while your Suit Fitting / measures will take a few minutes you can always get a few hours ST
There will be many possibilities.
[QUOTE=Mcavity; 1278041]What follows is a question which does not fit neatly into any ISG category but here goes!
Later this year I will probably be acompanying my 7 year old son to Bangkok for some medical investigations – these won't involve him being hospitalised. My wife will not be accompanying us. I would dearly love to go off and enjoy myself as I have done many times in the past but obviously my hands will be tied on this trip. It will literally be very frustrating to be in the middle of the action and unable to participate. I'm toying with the idea of staying in a reputable hotel which offers a "babysttting" service and then going off to do my own thing for a couple of hours. Just wondered if anyone had any other thoughts?[/QUOTE]I suggest you choose a hotel which is in close proximity to your favored activity places. For example if your are a soapy guy you should choose a hotel in Ratchada or Petchburi area.
If you are an oily guy, sukhumvit will be better. If you want to go hi class, you may choose to stay close to the big and famous parlours mentioned here. Basically I mean to say proximity will be important for you, to help you in mongering. Babysitting will be easily available in any place you stay.
Just make sure you are careful. Kids at 7 can ask questions and also remember stuff.
You need to find something to do (get a suit made, Shirts.) so that gives you an Aliby for the wife.
My guess is, when you're going to come home, she's going to ask the kid: Did your daddy leave you to go somewhere?
Get a Nanny to take him to the moviesatEmporium. That's 2 good hours away with no means of Communication. In the meantime you get your Suits done Soi 26 (there's a tailor close by) and then hop to Sukh 24/1 for an Oily.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1278052]Get a Nanny to take him to the moviesatEmporium. That's 2 good hours away with no means of Communication. In the meantime you get your Suits done Soi 26 (there's a tailor close by) and then hop to Sukh 24/1 for an Oily.[/QUOTE]Have him going to the Aquarium, another 2 hrs where the kid will forget about outside world. And in same premises, Paragon, there is also a nice foodcourt.
[QUOTE=Mcavity; 1278041]What follows is a question which does not fit neatly into any ISG category but here goes!
Later this year I will probably be acompanying my 7 year old son to Bangkok for some medical investigations – these won't involve him being hospitalised. My wife will not be accompanying us. I would dearly love to go off and enjoy myself as I have done many times in the past but obviously my hands will be tied on this trip. It will literally be very frustrating to be in the middle of the action and unable to participate. I'm toying with the idea of staying in a reputable hotel which offers a "babysttting" service and then going off to do my own thing for a couple of hours. Just wondered if anyone had any other thoughts?[/QUOTE]Sorry! Without flaming you too much or being moralily judgementor I hope your 7 year old son is okay but there are times even in Bangkok that you should think with your brain instead of thinking for your little head! You ask for " anyone had any other thoughts " you have mines! There is a time and place for everything this isn't one of them!
LBM
Come on guys, cut the guy some slack. He comes to an Adult review board and asks for genuine advice.
My guess is he already set his mind to having a Thai girl so why not help a brother out?
We should not be here to be judgmental about his family life, this is his call to make (and by the look of his request, he made the call).
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1278347]Come on guys, cut the guy some slack. He comes to an Adult review board and asks for genuine advice.
My guess is he already set his mind to having a Thai girl so why not help a brother out?
We should not be here to be judgmental about his family life, this is his call to make (and by the look of his request, he made the call).[/QUOTE]NicFrenchy,
Your right and wrong. Yes he came on a Adult review board and ask for genuine advice and therefore put himself out there and judgmental or not he should take the advice good or bad like a Adult! And sure it is his call but he did ask for other thoughts. You gave him some and I gave him the "Other"! Some ISG members don't have your tolerance? But I do hope everything works out for him and his son.
Maybe something more reasonable. A nice hotel buy his son some toys to play get him to take a nap and request a happy ending massage in his Suite while his son is napping. He can watch his son personally and still get his nuts off?
LBM
[QUOTE=Mcavity; 1278041]What follows is a question which does not fit neatly into any ISG category but here goes!
Later this year I will probably be acompanying my 7 year old son to Bangkok for some medical investigations – these won't involve him being hospitalised. My wife will not be accompanying us. I would dearly love to go off and enjoy myself as I have done many times in the past but obviously my hands will be tied on this trip. It will literally be very frustrating to be in the middle of the action and unable to participate. I'm toying with the idea of staying in a reputable hotel which offers a "babysttting" service and then going off to do my own thing for a couple of hours. Just wondered if anyone had any other thoughts?[/QUOTE]Why don't you save your money and time for your kid.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1277503]Just watched "The Avengers" which, All in All was a pretty entertaining movie. The 3D was just OK, nothing to rave about.
My Rant is for all the Fuckers who bring their Kids, these little muppets are yakking away during the whole movie and then the mums start to talk. And next thing you know, it's tea time and the whole fucking Theatre is getting noisy. That will teach me to go watch a movie in the aternoon. Got to go in the late evening, when Thai guys bring their dates and when there are no kids around.
And can't they make this movie PG13? So that these nasty ass 8 year olds stay home playing super Mario on their PS3s?[/QUOTE]It is PG 13. Why don't you stop texting during the movie and pay attention.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1278769]It is PG 13[/QUOTE]Well, I wasn't the only one that didn't know. Like the Thai Families who brought their 5 year olds. Or the Movie theatre people who let them in.
Maybe it's a secret only you and the Movie producers as in on.
I'm going to take a 3 day break next week (with my girl so P4P isn't the focus, just rest).
On the islands side I'm thinking about Koh Larn or Koh Samet. Other ideas?
I was also thinking about going to a jungle - forest kind of place instead, somewhere with a lake, a waterfall, something like that. Suggestions?
It needs to be close to BKK (2 or 3 hours) , I don't want to travel 6 hours and back to stay 3 days only.
[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1278939]I'm going to take a 3 day break next week (with my girl so P4P isn't the focus, just rest).
On the islands side I'm thinking about Koh Larn or Koh Samet. Other ideas?
I was also thinking about going to a jungle. Forest kind of place instead, somewhere with a lake, a waterfall, something like that. Suggestions?
It needs to be close to BKK (2 or 3 hours) , I don't want to travel 6 hours and back to stay 3 days only.[/QUOTE]I would give Khao Yai a try, great place to relax, few wineries where one can go and enjoy wine tastings, Mountains. You will not be disappointed.
This is where I usually Stay: [url]http://www.kirimaya.com/[/url]
[quote=nicfrenchy; 1278347]come on guys, cut the guy some slack. he comes to an adult review board and asks for genuine advice.
my guess is he already set his mind to having a thai girl so why not help a brother out?
we should not be here to be judgmental about his family life, this is his call to make (and by the look of his request, he made the call).[/quote]really appreciate the helpful suggestions from board members and the other comments as well. i put my head above the parapet so can't be surprised if i'm shot at. my son's welfare will not be in any way put at risk. the trip to the bumrungrad hosp is to obtain an opinion for his communication problems which have flumoxed the best of western medics. there is always a chance they might come up with something that might help and after travelling a great distance it would be foolish for us both not to have a holiday whilst we are there. if my wish to have a little r&r for myself offends some people so be it.
thanks
[quote=mcavity; 1278944]really appreciate the helpful suggestions from board members and the other comments as well. i put my head above the parapet so can't be surprised if i'm shot at. my son's welfare will not be in any way put at risk. the trip to the bumrungrad hosp is to obtain an opinion for his communication problems which have flumoxed the best of western medics. there is always a chance they might come up with something that might help and after travelling a great distance it would be foolish for us both not to have a holiday whilst we are there. if my wish to have a little r&r for myself offends some people so be it.
thanks[/quote]if you will go to bumrumgrad hospital, then i suggest you stay either at the jw marriott (very close nana) , the solo hotel is also good for lower budget (also soi 2). you can also stay at the holiday inn (across from the intercontinental) as it is a stones throw away from akane akasuri massage.
if staying away from bumrumgrad is ok for you, then you can stay at the wgs which is right next to a few hanky-panky massage shops on soi 19 and close to soi cowboy.
also, the ariston hotel or davis hotel soi 24 are close to many massage places between soi 22/24/24-1 and 26.
or you can always stay at the lodge on soi 33 where giotto will be more than happy to babysitt while you go enjoy bangkok!
[quote=mcavity; 1278944]really appreciate the helpful suggestions from board members and the other comments as well. i put my head above the parapet so can't be surprised if i'm shot at. my son's welfare will not be in any way put at risk. the trip to the bumrungrad hosp is to obtain an opinion for his communication problems which have flumoxed the best of western medics. there is always a chance they might come up with something that might help and after travelling a great distance it would be foolish for us both not to have a holiday whilst we are there. if my wish to have a little r&r for myself offends some people so be it.
thanks[/quote]" it would be foolish for "us both " not to have a holiday whilst "we" are there "?
lbm
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1278943]I would give Khao Yai a try, great place to relax, few wineries where one can go and enjoy wine tastings, Mountains. You will not be disappointed.
This is where I usually Stay:
[url]http://www.kirimaya.com/[/url][/QUOTE]It does look like a nice spot. How do you usually go there, taxi?
Kirimaya looks great, can't do it with this girl though, she will want to pay half, so a 22, 000 bath villa isn't on the agenda for this time. But I'll shove kirimaya into my evernote for later.
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1279250]It does look like a nice spot. How do you usually go there, taxi?[/quote]Yes, usually book the BIG taxis or a Limo.
[quote]Kirimaya looks great, can't do it with this girl though, she will want to pay half, so a 22, 000 bath villa isn't on the agenda for this time. But I'll shove kirimaya into my evernote for later.[/QUOTE]That's true but I thought they had rooms? If not, there are other Hotels in Khao Yai.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1278947].
Or you can always stay at the Lodge on soi 33 where Giotto will be more than happy to babysitt while you go enjoy Bangkok![/QUOTE]NF,
Besides the fact that you are definitely a S.o.a.B. - this can be an option. Not, that I would ever babysit, but we can for sure arrange something.
Giotto
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1279296]NF,
Besides the fact that you are definitely a S. O. A. B. This can be an option. Not, that I would ever babysit, but we can for sure arrange something.
Giotto[/QUOTE]That is exactly what I meant. You did not think for a second that I suggested you babysit the kid in person did you? That would be so Cruel to the poor child. Haha
Not sure where to post this, but damn. You got to admire the stones on that girl.
[url]http://bangkok.craigslist.co.th/w4m/2980271821.html[/url]
I might be the only one in Thailand who thinks most Thai food is utter crap, barely fit for a dog. The other day I ordered some fried pork dish with rice that turned out to be nothing but fried breading with hardly any meat with this awful goop that made me gag every time I tasted it. But no doubt the thai girl I was with downed it like it was mom's macaroni and cheese. Before I had some Tom Yom soup and could barely eat that, just a blend of the strangest spices with big lumps of chicken bone or whatever it was. I normally really like noodles, especially Top Ramen and I'll put an egg in it and maybe some meat for protein and it tastes good. So a week ago, I felt like having noodles, I ordered a noodle dish with prawns and it was just terrible and later on gave me a slight case of the hershey squirts. If I eat Thai dishes its only simple dishes like fried rice, and even they can't get that right half the time it doesn't taste so good. Now I usually stick to American or Japanese food here.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1281087]I might be the only one in Thailand who thinks most Thai food is utter crap, barely fit for a dog. The other day I ordered some fried pork dish with rice that turned out to be nothing but fried breading with hardly any meat with this awful goop that made me gag every time I tasted it. But no doubt the thai girl I was with downed it like it was mom's macaroni and cheese. Before I had some Tom Yom soup and could barely eat that, just a blend of the strangest spices with big lumps of chicken bone or whatever it was. I normally really like noodles, especially Top Ramen and I'll put an egg in it and maybe some meat for protein and it tastes good. So a week ago, I felt like having noodles, I ordered a noodle dish with prawns and it was just terrible and later on gave me a slight case of the hershey squirts. If I eat Thai dishes its only simple dishes like fried rice, and even they can't get that right half the time it doesn't taste so good. Now I usually stick to American or Japanese food here.[/QUOTE]I don't agree with that. I am not a huge fan of thai food but I have had some very good thai dishes. Some of their Curries with Crab are fantastic. Anyway, to each their own.
American food? Can you elaborate on that? What do you call American food?
Where do you eat in BKK?
(I don't mean this as a flame, just wondering). If you had Thai food at "Cabbages and condom" then I understant, this restaurant is for people with no palate.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1280994]Not sure where to post this, but damn. You got to admire the stones on that girl.
[url]http://bangkok.craigslist.co.th/w4m/2980271821.html[/url][/QUOTE]Apparently local to me, though I have not noticed any female rickshaw riders around here. If you're seriously interested, I could try to keep an eye out for her. With a job like that, body should be fairly lean and muscled, so the price might put her out of your league? Not sure what your range is.
I am BTW also looking for some sponsorship. My body is also fairly lean and muscled, though I do not poses a rickshaw. I could probably procure one if required though. Would have to be a strictly platonic relationship however, unless you're hot and female. Let me know of interested.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1281097]I don't agree with that. I am not a huge fan of thai food but I have had some very good thai dishes. Some of their Curries with Crab are fantastic. Anyway, to each their own.
American food? Can you elaborate on that? What do you call American food?
Where do you eat in BKK?
(I don't mean this as a flame, just wondering). If you had Thai food at "Cabbages and condom" then I understant, this restaurant is for people with no palate.[/QUOTE]Not all of its bad. Just 90% of what I've eaten was crap. The best thing I had was a noodles and chicken dish on lower sukhumvit, it wasn't spicey but had a peanuty taste and was recommended by a prostitute.
American food? I guess I should say Western food. Burgers / tacos / subways / pizza / sandwiches. fwiw, best burger I've had was at the Firehouse on 11. Lately, I've been hitting up Chester's, their promo deal is the bomb!
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1281370]Not all of its bad. Just 90% of what I've eaten was crap. The best thing I had was a noodles and chicken dish on lower sukhumvit, it wasn't spicey but had a peanuty taste and was recommended by a prostitute.
American food? I guess I should say Western food. Burgers / tacos / subways / pizza / sandwiches. Fwiw, best burger I've had was at the Firehouse on 11. Lately, I've been hitting up Chester's, their promo deal is the bomb![/QUOTE]For Burgers, I like the DUKES in Emporium (next to Tacos Sunrise) , they have great burgers and nice fries.
The Noodled you refer to, could it be Khao Soi? Northern Specialty?
Is the BANGKOK REPORTS Thread gone?
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1281375]For Burgers, I like the DUKES in Emporium[/QUOTE]And here it is. Made me want to eat one yesterday.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1281087]I might be the only one in Thailand who thinks most Thai food is utter crap, barely fit for a dog. The other day I ordered some fried pork dish with rice that turned out to be nothing but fried breading with hardly any meat with this awful goop that made me gag every time I tasted it. But no doubt the thai girl I was with downed it like it was mom's macaroni and cheese. Before I had some Tom Yom soup and could barely eat that, just a blend of the strangest spices with big lumps of chicken bone or whatever it was. I normally really like noodles, especially Top Ramen and I'll put an egg in it and maybe some meat for protein and it tastes good. So a week ago, I felt like having noodles, I ordered a noodle dish with prawns and it was just terrible and later on gave me a slight case of the hershey squirts. If I eat Thai dishes its only simple dishes like fried rice, and even they can't get that right half the time it doesn't taste so good. Now I usually stick to American or Japanese food here.[/QUOTE]I love the food here. I look forward to lunch everyday. Usually variations of noodle soups followed by a fruit shake. 80 baht or less for both. Usually eat surrounded by office workers. Dinners. I have probably eat Thai 50+% of the time, mix it up the rest. I eat "American" less than 10% of my meals here.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1281722]And here it is. Made me want to eat one yesterday.[/QUOTE]Duke's burgers are pretty good. You can also opt for onion rings as opposed to fries!
Hell yea!
Sorry to hear you don't find the food agreeable. For me Thailand represents the holy trinity of babes, divine food and cheap alcohol. Thai food is certainly an acquired taste to some. I try not be be a one dimensional monger in that respect so places like Cambodia where I find the food boring do not appeal. Khao San road would have the most westernised thai food so I try not to eat there.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1281087]I might be the only one in Thailand who thinks most Thai food is utter crap, barely fit for a dog. The other day I ordered some fried pork dish with rice that turned out to be nothing but fried breading with hardly any meat with this awful goop that made me gag every time I tasted it. But no doubt the thai girl I was with downed it like it was mom's macaroni and cheese. Before I had some Tom Yom soup and could barely eat that, just a blend of the strangest spices with big lumps of chicken bone or whatever it was. I normally really like noodles, especially Top Ramen and I'll put an egg in it and maybe some meat for protein and it tastes good. So a week ago, I felt like having noodles, I ordered a noodle dish with prawns and it was just terrible and later on gave me a slight case of the hershey squirts. If I eat Thai dishes its only simple dishes like fried rice, and even they can't get that right half the time it doesn't taste so good. Now I usually stick to American or Japanese food here.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1281721]Is the BANGKOK REPORTS Thread gone?[/QUOTE]Is anyone else not seeing that thread?
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1281905]Is anyone else not seeing that thread?[/QUOTE]I'm not seeing it either.
Maybe it's disappeared like my favorite Pattaya restaurant only to reappear again tomorrow. Strange things like that happen in Thailand.
There is another Bangkok thread way down the list of threads but it's last post date is 4/19.
It morphed into "Need Help and Info". Heavens knows why. I subscribe to various threads to get email notifications. All of a sudden this 'Need Help and Info' appeared and I had no clue to what it was but reading through the posts it was the Bangkok thread.
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1281918]I'm not seeing it either.
Maybe it's disappeared like my favorite Pattaya restaurant only to reappear again tomorrow. Strange things like that happen in Thailand.
There is another Bangkok thread way down the list of threads but it's last post date is 4/19.[/QUOTE]
There's been a purge. I lost about a 100 posts so my guess is a lot of posts were deleted. So much for encouragement to post info LOL
And it's not the BKK Reports Thread that needs cleaning, it's the 3 Massage threads.
#justsayin
Nic, you fuck things up by doing all your bitching about the way the forum look? The thread is the old Bangkok Thread, backtrack many of the post are from the Bangkok Thread. Someone is watching but since they are maybe they should clean it up? Just don't know how anyone can come up with such a title? Maybe a virus or Harold444 the kid is at it again?
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1281986]Nic, you fuck things up by doing all your bitching about the way the forum look?[/QUOTE]Yeah it could be. If that is the case, I apologize.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1281986]Maybe a virus or Harold444 the kid is at it again?
LBM[/QUOTE]You think Harold's a hacker? LOL. I'm sure he's too busy trying to lure good girls to have sex with him for free ha
Guys, it's not just here. The same sort of thing happened to the Kuala Lumpur Thread, now titled: "First Time In KL. What Hotel / Area To Stay". Must be a some hacker's job.
MD II
[QUOTE=Jgm005;1281923]It morphed into "Need Help and Info". Heavens knows why. I subscribe to various threads to get email notifications. All of a sudden this 'Need Help and Info' appeared and I had no clue to what it was but reading through the posts it was the Bangkok thread.[/QUOTE]Maybe its retribution due to 80% (no I haven't measured it) of posts not being Bangkok Mongering reports. It would have been just far easier to start a new Thread and encourage people to use it, if not actually a Bangkok Mongering Info topic.
I do think Bangkok is a valid place is Thailand to have a special thread for, that way Pattaya folks don't need to bother to read it.
I like specific threads so I don't have to bother to open many of them. But retrospective change is just not acceptable.
I very rarely bother to open the Photos thread any more, as one example. Just like I don't bother to be a Facebook member. I very rarely post a one liner as I think they are often silly,
Just like a silly one liner I got in response to saying that Bo was missing from Mango. Someone thinks its funny to say that can find girls named Bo anywhere.
I don't "Tweet". To be able to be very funny or say something very useful in a one-liner, is difficult.
Simply creating new threads for for specific popular topics is surely the way.
We could have a "Bangkok Prices" thread (for price bickering) which I would not bother to read, for example.
We could have a "Non-mongering Information" thread to make it more clear where to post non-mongering topics, rather than have only some of us assume they belong in General.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1282157]
We could have a "Non-mongering Information" thread to make it more clear where to post non-mongering topics, rather than have only some of us assume they belong in General.[/QUOTE]That's a good idea.
Stand back for a moment people and think about what you are saying and actually what each and everyone of us want. In the end that is the problem why things have gotten so much out of hand. Actually what and who is to decide what is relevant on a thread like Bangkok? Are we going to constantly use the excuse because it is a sex site ONLY SEX can be discussed. It is unrealistic to thing that anyone of us have the self control to discuss one specific subject.
People complaint and that is why you have a General Thread, now it is being suggested what is being discussed in the moment isn't proper for the General Thread and a Non-Mongering Thread should be created along with more thread for each specific topic that someone want to discussed or ask a question? Please, what actually should be posted on a General Thread that couldn't be contrue to be in a Non-Mongering Thread? If one thinks seriously about the new title Need help and Information, this thread could include 90% if not every single thread that you see now. Yes! Maybe when we log on to ISG, one thread " just click Need help and ask your question and click and you got your answer? No chit chat no interaction?
Here is a good example: There was a time when there was ony 1 Massage Thread, some rocket impatient member anal retentive guy felt too much was being discussed about Annies and Tulip? So a survey was done and four new threads were created Annies, Tulip, Other, and the survey! Thank god since then no one has successed more like Mango or Snow White?
I myself would like lots of things but whatever happen to just being patient and doing some research and no matter how many or how little threads there are you will always have the guys with the silly one liner and the silly criticism. I say instead of creating new thread we start deleting and consolidating.We can all dream but you are asking for the impossible from Jackson? This is a site is basically self-serve, if you are too impatient and can't deal with some off topic and have a seriously conversation from time to time to agree or disagree I say " there is the door and don't let it hit you on the way out "!
LBM
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1281905]Is anyone else not seeing that thread?[/QUOTE]Threads in other countries are screwed up as well.
They predicted this would happen? The end is near? Before it is too late get your rocks off, do whatever it takes ugly, fat, stinking pussy, pay low pay high, get it anywhere on Beach Road, W. S. The Bush whatever it takes the end is near just go out and get some even if the place is in decline?
12-21-12.
LBM
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1282296]Threads in other countries are screwed up as well.[/QUOTE]I think its the revenge of Morris and he's REALLY pissed off.
"This is Thailand. If you don't like imcompetence, mismanagement, arrogance, racism, xenophobia, aggression, dishonesty, dangerous traffic, violence to foreigners, scams, cheating and lies. DON"T COME!"
TIT stands for "This is Thailand"
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1282346]"This is Thailand. If you don't like imcompetence, mismanagement, arrogance, racism, xenophobia, aggression, dishonesty, dangerous traffic, violence to foreigners, scams, cheating and lies. DON"T COME!"
TIT stands for "This is Thailand"[/QUOTE]Well look whos talking about what he knows about Thailand again. Waing the bargirls Pinky. Hehe bigmouth.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1282296]Threads in other countries are screwed up as well.[/QUOTE]Have a ook under "Need Help & Info!" and there you will find the Bangkok report.
[QUOTE=Primo Bolan;1282373]Well look whos talking about what he knows about Thailand again. Waing the bargirls Pinky. Hehe bigmouth.[/QUOTE]I have more posts than you & know what I'm talking about.
"Come to Miracle Thailand where you can be clubbed by security guards in Bangkok, kidnapped by fake police and scammed at every corner in Pattaya, beaten up by the TukTuk mafia in Phuket, killed in Chiang Mai from the over use of pesticides in the hotel, murdered by the police in Pai, killed by a mini van on any road in the country, and catch drug resistant malaria, HIV, bird flu, and swine flu. And if you're really lucky, you'll be murdered violently and the police will rule it a suicide even though your arms were tied behind your back and your head was found a kilometer away."
NicFroggie, BTW, thinks that the recent BKK thread change has resulted in him having a lower post count than before, whereas I know I & he has a higher post count. Who's is right in your opinion? I know I am.
Will be in BKK in July, wondering what sport bar shows UFC fights? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Mal
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1286596]I think the withdrawal method is quite effective for those with a high degree of skill at it. Even with this method the morning after pill could be used in case of an "accident". But for the general public, like condoms, it is a poor means of birth control & should be combined with other methods. Even for myself, being able to avoid finishing inside the vagina 100% of the time, due to the possibility of sperm in precum I wouldn't rely on it alone & prefer the lady be fixed or using effective birth control.[/QUOTE]BTW, what would you guys recommend re birth control. I want to be sure, very sure, that my lady / ladies, are on something very effective. How should I go about this? For example, when taking them to the hospital / clinic for HIV / STI tests, have them get a birth control "shot" at the same time? Or re the pill, watch them swallow it? Or re IUD, what then? ETC?
Expert: Major flooding coming to Thailand again this year, like last year.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1287173]How does no sexual intercourse sound/[/QUOTE]Not the answer I am looking for. Any other bright ideas?
Ok, So I am a Racist, I am totally at peace with that! I hate White people LOL.
Kidding Aside, I also like to make fun of my own people: the FROGS, FROGGIES or whatever the most derogatory term is for a Frenchman.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1287162]BTW, what would you guys recommend re birth control. I want to be sure, very sure, that my lady / ladies, are on something very effective. How should I go about this? For example, when taking them to the hospital / clinic for HIV / STI tests, have them get a birth control "shot" at the same time? Or re the pill, watch them swallow it? Or re IUD, what then? ETC?[/QUOTE]The most effective? DIY! By far the more secure birth control since centuries
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1287162]BTW, what would you guys recommend re birth control. I want to be sure, very sure, that my lady / ladies, are on something very effective. How should I go about this? For example, when taking them to the hospital / clinic for HIV / STI tests, have them get a birth control "shot" at the same time? Or re the pill, watch them swallow it? Or re IUD, what then? ETC?[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, no birth control method, except abstinence, is considered to be 100% effective. To be 100%, you can go for castration of testicles or ovaries!
P. P,
Get yourself snipped!
LBM
[QUOTE=Horny Landoora;1287874]Unfortunately, no birth control method, except abstinence, is considered to be 100% effective. To be 100%, you can go for castration of testicles or ovaries![/QUOTE]Do you think these solutions might be more suited to a forum for men in the Catholic priesthood, but a wee bit extreme for ISG.
I'm not looking for 100 percent, as 99. 9% per year will do. Perhaps combining two or more effective methods could achieve that, one which will be coitus interruptus. It is 96% effective on its own with perfect use.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1287900]P. P,
Get yourself snipped!
LBM[/QUOTE]That would be a once and for all highly effective method. Though not without risks or pain.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1287861]The most effective? DIY! By far the more secure birth control since centuries[/QUOTE]What is this? Drunk In Yemen.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1288027]Do you think these solutions might be more suited to a forum for men in the Catholic priesthood, but a wee bit extreme for ISG.
I'm not looking for 100 percent, as 99. 9% per year will do. Perhaps combining two or more effective methods could achieve that, one which will be coitus interruptus. It is 96% effective on its own with perfect use.
That would be a once and for all highly effective method. Though not without risks or pain.
What is this? Drunk In Yemen.[/QUOTE]Is there not risks and pain if percentages as noted doesn't pan out?
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1288103]Is there not risks and pain if percentages as noted doesn't pan out?[/QUOTE]For the man? Nothing like this that I am aware of:
"The primary long-term complications are chronic pain conditions or syndromes that can affect any of the scrotal, pelvic and / or lower-abdominal regions, known as post-vasectomy pain syndrome."
"Post-vasectomy pain syndrome (PVPS) is a chronic and sometimes debilitating condition that may develop immediately or several years after vasectomy. [27] One survey cites studies that estimate incidence at one case every ten to thirty vasectomies. [28] The pain can be constant orchialgia or epididymal pain, or it can be pain that occurs only at particular times such as with intercourse, ejaculation, or physical exertion."
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasectomy[/url]
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1288178]For the man? Nothing like this that I am aware of:
"The primary long-term complications are chronic pain conditions or syndromes that can affect any of the scrotal, pelvic and / or lower-abdominal regions, known as post-vasectomy pain syndrome."
"Post-vasectomy pain syndrome (PVPS) is a chronic and sometimes debilitating condition that may develop immediately or several years after vasectomy. [27] One survey cites studies that estimate incidence at one case every ten to thirty vasectomies. [28] The pain can be constant orchialgia or epididymal pain, or it can be pain that occurs only at particular times such as with intercourse, ejaculation, or physical exertion."
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasectomy[/url][/QUOTE]Hell that is painful just to read! But the pain I was referring to was if she doeget pregnant and it is unwanted by you and you have the pain of supporting it for years and years and years and years. That is the pain I was talking about! I was for sometime thinking about having one but after reading your post forget it! I think I'll have my sperm count check first?
LBM
Every day in Thailand you can see funny communication stuff ups between Farangs and Thais. Its very evident that tourists seem to speak English as they normally would and expect to be understood. Actually it isn't that easy. Guys should be more careful how they speak English. Choosing simple words, no jargon or slang, and speak slowly. I speak Thai reasonably but still get misunderstood because my pronunciatiation is not perfect and I may say things slightly strangely from a Thai point of view.
Yesterday I am at the Soi Cowboy hamburger stand (good tasting burgers nothing like Mc Donalds which I regard as not edible). I ask the waitress 3 times for "prik thai" (its pepper not a Thai dick) but she seems to be trying to adjust the fan. Claims she didn't hear, so I go get the pepper myself. Its very difficult to pronounce "prik thai" badly so its probably that she thought I was saying something in English, or place is too noisy or just a request for pepper is unexpected.
Next 5 guys, perhaps Indians, walk up to the hamburger stand. The girl serving is from Buriram. Speaks Thai and a Khmer dialect. Her English is weak. The guy asks her something like "Do you have any veg. Food". She answers "no, we don't have any chicken". I can immediately see the obvious that she doesn't recognise "veg.". However the guy is not catching on. Instead of rephrasing, the usual thing is just to repeat the question, which doesn't help. She is still insisting that they have no chicken (no idea how chicken came into her mind). Perhaps guys with this type of look often ask for chicken.
Some time in the past I had asked for "fried onions" in English and instead received french fries. Yes they are both fried.
The guys walk off perplexed to look elsewhere for something they can eat. I have to explain to her that they wanted to eat "jay" (vegetarian food) and the guys are "mangsawirat" (Vegetarians).
Another mate of mine often says something in English to the waitress and he insists the waitress understood. However when the wrong thing arrives, my suspicions are confirmed. After many years I start to develop a sense that people have not understood by the look on their face on just by the complexity of the English request.
At the bar attached to the burger stand I ask for coffee with milk no sugar. Too complex? What do I get? Coffee with sugar and no milk. The waitress cannot understand that coffee could be drunk without sugar. I should have just said coffee with milk, accepted the sugar but not used it.
If you ask a Thai "please only warm the sandwich a little bit", it will come back burning hot, sloppy and totally destroyed. The only sensible course is to say "No warm please". Thais are not good at reducing unless its something expensive. Its all or nothing. You salad will come swimming in a lake of mayonaise if you ask for just a little. You must ask for mayonaise separate, or better still "no mayo".
In another post Nic had commented to the girl that she was " very special" and she replied "yes special 1500". Funny but demonstrates the communication difficulties and needing to stick to very basic things for Thai people with weak English. In many cases we need to learn the Thai mis-pronunciation of English words too. E. G. In Thailand it's not a Gin and Tonic, its "yeen tonic"
Many times a Thai is trying their best to speak English but due to weak grammar, the meaning is most unclear to me, so I ask them to repeat in Thai to get a clearer idea. Not everyone can do this but its wise to rephrase what they said sometimes to see if they agree we have got the correct meaning.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1288588]Every day in Thailand you can see funny communication stuff ups between Farangs and Thais. Its very evident that tourists seem to speak English as they normally would and expect to be understood. Actually it isn't that easy. Guys should be more careful how they speak English. Choosing simple words, no jargon or slang, and speak slowly. I speak Thai reasonably but still get misunderstood because my pronunciatiation is not perfect and I may say things slightly strangely from a Thai point of view.
If you ask a Thai "please only warm the sandwich a little bit", it will come back burning hot, sloppy and totally destroyed. The only sensible course is to say "No warm please". Thais are not good at reducing unless its something expensive. Its all or nothing. You salad will come swimming in a lake of mayonaise if you ask for just a little. You must ask for mayonaise separate, or better still "no mayo".
In another post Nic had commented to the girl that she was " very special" and she replied "yes special 1500". Funny but demonstrates the communication difficulties and needing to stick to very basic things for Thai people with weak English. In many cases we need to learn the Thai mis-pronunciation of English words too. E. G. In Thailand it's not a Gin and Tonic, its "yeen tonic"
Many times a Thai is trying their best to speak English but due to weak grammar, the meaning is most unclear to me, so I ask them to repeat in Thai to get a clearer idea. Not everyone can do this but its wise to rephrase what they said sometimes to see if they agree we have got the correct meaning.[/QUOTE]I understand exactly what you are saying on all levels. And as you have said on plenty of occasions I have been speaking Thai but in their mind they are listening for English so they totally misunderstand. I was at the Nana KFC before leaving BKK today and the lady asked me if I wanted to upsize fries and drink for 20 baht. In Thai I told her no, just give me the drinks with a little ice. When she rung it up to 319 instead of 299 I was baffled. Then I saw the two glasses were bigger than the regular one and one had a little ice and the other had no ice. Huh? All I could do was laugh and go sit down and eat.
As you have also said, I too have found it to work out better for communication when you say things in English exactly as you usually hear them say it instead of the standard way.
Just for the record, an efficient haircut just over 20 mins with no stuffing around with shampoos (I wash my hair every morning anyway), massage, blowwave styling etc. in a mens barber shop in non tourist street in Bangkok, cost me 70 Baht. The hairdresser was actually a girl and so I was taller than most customers so she had to lean on me a bit. Thankfully wasn't a guy leaning all over me with lower belly pushing on my elbow.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1288588]Every day in Thailand you can see funny communication stuff ups between Farangs and Thais. Its very evident that tourists seem to speak English as they normally would and expect to be understood. I ask the waitress 3 times for "prik thai" (its pepper not a Thai dick)[/QUOTE]Culd this be the reason why some guys end up in taking a LB back to their room? LOL He probably asks "do you have a prick" and "she" answers back "no, no prik thai" (saying "she" is a sweet one) ahhaha
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[QUOTE=Red Mosquito;1289491]Hahaha This one cracked me up yet again B Man. Serious laughter inducing stuff, this! Keep buzzin' Red Mosquito[/QUOTE]Happy you had a serious laugh. Do you want to know the latest on I-phones in Thailand? Ooooops!
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1289276]Just for the record, an efficient haircut just over 20 mins with no stuffing around with shampoos (The hairdresser was actually a girl and so I was taller than most customers so she had to lean on me a bit. Thankfully wasn't a guy leaning all over me with lower belly pushing on my elbow.[/QUOTE]That fills some of the big questions posted here from time to time, just missing where this place is so we can then be happy to have joined ISG for worth. Hairdresser: done that. Water in Thailand: done that. I-phone: done that. Pubic shaving: done that.
Now comes the Big Bang question. Where can we rent a bicycle at 5 baths a day?
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1289499]That fills some of the big questions posted here from time to time, just missing where this place is so we can then be happy to have joined ISG for worth. Hairdresser: done that. Water in Thailand: done that. I-phone: done that. Pubic shaving: done that.
Now comes the Big Bang question. Where can we rent a bicycle at 5 baths a day?[/QUOTE]What location are you interested in?
LBM
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1289276]Just for the record, an efficient haircut just over 20 mins with no stuffing around with shampoos (I wash my hair every morning anyway), massage, blowwave styling etc. in a mens barber shop in non tourist street in Bangkok, cost me 70 Baht. The hairdresser was actually a girl and so I was taller than most customers so she had to lean on me a bit. Thankfully wasn't a guy leaning all over me with lower belly pushing on my elbow.[/QUOTE]I'm fussy about my hair so I guess I'll never experience a Street Barber. I want my hair Washed, My head Massaged, My Hair Cut, washed and Massaged again, then a touchup, blow dry, Sculpt and go.
And, I tip 100 everytime.
To me, these barbers are like the Chinatown Hos. 300thb, quick boom boom, no washing, no taking your clothes off, you get the drift.
WTF?
The Massage Except Tulip and Annies is gone.
Can we please get a Moderator here that actually cares about this section? There is a lot of work to do to clean all this shit up.
Making Threads Vanish is just going to push people to post in other threads, mixing everything up.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1289505]I'm fussy about my hair so I guess I'll never experience a Street Barber. I want my hair Washed, My head Massaged, My Hair Cut, washed and Massaged again, then a touchup, blow dry, Sculpt and go.
And, I tip 100 everytime.
To me, these barbers are like the Chinatown Hos. 300thb, quick boom boom, no washing, no taking your clothes off, you get the drift.[/QUOTE]Hahahaha! Why don't you just wash your hair in the shower every morning instead of having it washed twice at the fucking beauty salon?
You sound like John Edwards, the slippery politician from North Carolina who just got acquitted of election fraud in the states. The guy actually used to pay $400 USD for a frickin haircut.
No wonder you don't like Pattaya. The haircuts are too cheap here. :)
For the cost of your generous tip, I can have a nice haircut and a bottle of Chang.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1289530]Hahahaha! Why don't you just wash your hair in the shower every morning instead of having it washed twice at the fucking beauty salon?[/quote]First of all, Hair are not supposed to be washed on a Daily basis, it's not about a Clean / Dirty thing, it's just not healthy.
Also, A nice Scalp massage helps stimulate and promote circulation to your scalp and reduce excess hair fallout.
[quote]No wonder you don't like Pattaya. The haircuts are too cheap here. :)[/quote]Well, I go twice a month, I like my hair neat and in my line of work, I need to look sharp.
[quote]For the cost of your generous tip, I can have a nice haircut and a bottle of Chang.[/QUOTE]Well, maybe you're right, maybe Pattaya's too cheap for me LOL
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1289320]Culd this be the reason why some guys end up in taking a LB back to their room? LOL He probably asks "do you have a prick" and "she" answers back "no, no prik thai" (saying "she" is a sweet one) ahhaha[/QUOTE]You stuffed up the joke slightly."prik" by itself means Chili. The LB would be thinking Chili rather than pepper. "prik khee nuu" means literally "mouse shit chilies" but in thai it isn't considered impolite. They just think those little hot chilies are shaped like a mouse shit.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1289545]First of all, Hair are not supposed to be washed on a Daily basis, it's not about a Clean / Dirty thing, it's just not healthy.[/QUOTE]I agree, I wash my hair in the shower every other day for that reason.
[QUOTE]Also, A nice Scalp massage helps stimulate and promote circulation to your scalp and reduce excess hair fallout.[/QUOTE]Yes, and like a HJ, it can be done much more economiclly by yourself; and feels almost as good.
[QUOTE]Well, I go twice a month, I like my hair neat and in my line of work, I need to look sharp.[/QUOTE]Oh, yeah; I forgot to mention; my 60 baht haircut lasts a month and still looks sharp. Probably not as sharp as you, though.
[QUOTE]Well, maybe you're right, maybe Pattaya's too cheap for me LOL[/QUOTE]I'm sure you can find a rip off salon here. That's where the tourists go. :)
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1289499]That fills some of the big questions posted here from time to time, just missing where this place is so we can then be happy to have joined ISG for worth. Hairdresser: done that. Water in Thailand: done that. I-phone: done that. Pubic shaving: done that.
Now comes the Big Bang question. Where can we rent a bicycle at 5 baths a day?[/QUOTE]You should have at least learned by now, that the Thai currency is Baht. Baths usually gives away the newbies. I have managed 5 baths in a day though, having done two soapy sessions, with those having 2 bathings each :D
I ridden a bicycle when too lazy to walk to the 7Eleven in quiet Sois. Not wise to use a bicycle on main roads here though, as a bit dangerous.
This is the Miscellaneous Trivia thread IMHO.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1289553]You should have at least learned by now, that the Thai currency is Baht. Baths usually gives away the newbies.[/QUOTE]I am a clean man. Never rent a bicycle without bathing 5 times first
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1289508]WTF? The Massage Except Tulip and Annies is gone.Can we please get a Moderator here that actually cares about this section? There is a lot of work to do to clean all this shit up.Making Threads Vanish is just going to push people to post in other threads, mixing everything up.[/QUOTE]Seems another section in another country got screwed up in the title: the original one disappeared.
Another bug?
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1289589]Seems another section in another country got screwed up in the title: the original one disappeared.
Another bug?[/QUOTE]Bug or no bug, doesn't look like the moderators give a fuck, otherwise we'd already have an explanation.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1289953]Bug or no bug, doesn't look like the moderators give a fuck, otherwise we'd already have an explanation.[/QUOTE]That's the point! Shit can happen but a word about would not upset us. I just posted soothing similar on the Japan thread, affected too. Doesn't andée to be detailed but a short information the problems I fixed and that it might or not occur again is needed. We don't even know if admin is aware.
Maybe the only way to do wake them up is to do a LB report where one mentions, at the start, this damn problem.
Any volunteer? LOL
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1290052]Maybe the only way to do wake them up is to do a LB report where one mentions, at the start, this damn problem.
Any volunteer? LOL[/QUOTE]If it's all that important to anyone, they can just use the contact adminstration feature. I've used it before and Jackson replied shortly.
Seems like there have been a lot of bugs with this new software. There is one member who posts reports that completely dissappear for me. Every time I make a report and hit the upload button I'm taken to reports from 2006 instead of back to the thread I reported on. I'ts wierd but not important enough for me to inquire.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1290055]Every time I make a report and hit the upload button I'm taken to reports from 2006 instead of back to the thread I reported on. I'ts wierd[/QUOTE]I am facing the same issue as well. In addition if someone posts a link to a post in the forum it takes me elsewhere and not on that particular post!
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1289953]Bug or no bug, doesn't look like the moderators give a fuck, otherwise we'd already have an explanation.[/QUOTE]Could be the whole ISG will completely disappear up a black hole shortly.
[QUOTE=Horny Landoora;1290071]I am facing the same issue as well. In addition if someone posts a link to a post in the forum it takes me elsewhere and not on that particular post![/QUOTE]Yep; same here; and forget about hitting the "view the original post" feature as it takes me everywhere but where its supposed to. The automatic editing is also a pain in the ass. I like the old version of ISG a lot better. At least it worked.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1290075]Could be the whole ISG will completely disappear up a black hole shortly.[/QUOTE]Oh Nooooo, I mean, if there was a Thread that needed to disappear, I would have picked a completely Useless one, like, Giotto's Forum
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1290131]Oh Nooooo, I mean, if there was a Thread that needed to disappear, I would have picked a completely Useless one, like, Giotto's Forum[/QUOTE]Froggy,
That one is unerasable.
Giotto
PS: We will meet again, my fat French friend :) !
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1290136]Froggy,
That one is unerasable.
Giotto.
PS: We will meet again, my fat French friend. ![/QUOTE]I sent an email to the Admin, I want ALL your privileges REVOKED! You can't call people Fat (and lie because I am in reality slim). I am offended.
I demanded your Immediate Removal from this Forum, your Visa and Work Permit be cancelled promptly.
We'll send you back to your Austrian Home Mr Wagner!
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1290142].
I demanded your Immediate Removal from this Forum, your Visa and Work Permit be cancelled promptly.
We'll send you back to your Austrian Home Mr Wagner![/QUOTE]Please!
I support the motion :) !
Giotto
PS: You need stronger antibiotics! BigC has infected the brain now - definitely. And - you need a new mirror, too.
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1290148]Please!
I support the motion. ![/QUOTE]I am meeting the Austrian Ambassador Tomorrow at a Dinner-Function, I will relay the info. Salzburg will see your face soon.
[quote]PS: You need stronger antibiotics! BigC has infected the brain now. Definitely. And. You need a new mirror, too.[/QUOTE]I am cured already, got a shot of medicine in the ass, and NO, it was not administered by the Auntie!
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1290151]I am meeting the Austrian Ambassador Tomorrow at a Dinner-Function, I will relay the info. Salzburg will see your face soon.[/QUOTE]I've met him a few times, also at dinner functions. His name's John if I'm not mistaken. Maybe you and I work in the same field or have even crossed paths and not known it.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1289508]WTF?
The Massage Except Tulip and Annies is gone. Can we please get a Moderator here that actually cares about this section? There is a lot of work to do to clean all this shit up.[/QUOTE]I tried to help a guy who sent me a PM about Snow White. And bang! No record of ANY reports I'd written about Snow White or Mango or anyplace other than Tulip or Annies. Disappointing and discouraging. TTG
[QUOTE=TimTimGuy;1290750]I tried to help a guy who sent me a PM about Snow White. And bang! No record of ANY reports I'd written about Snow White or Mango or anyplace other than Tulip or Annies. Disappointing and discouraging. TTG[/QUOTE]Actually the Bangkok MPs Thread (except Annies and Tulip) was really one of the few useful threads, left. Many other threads fill with crap. Seems like a good time to retire from the forum, if the best thread is not coming back.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1290841]Actually the Bangkok MPs Thread (except Annies and Tulip) was really one of the few useful threads, left. Many other threads fill with crap. Seems like a good time to retire from the forum, if the best thread is not coming back.[/QUOTE]Right! It is a major loss of valuable information. I always copy and paste then edit later anything I find really informative and useful. Newbies won't even know what they are missing. You would have thought that we would have heard from the powers that be about what happened. Still waiting for Godot.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1290848]Right! It is a major loss of valuable information. I always copy and paste then edit later anything I find really informative and useful. Newbies won't even know what they are missing. You would have thought that we would have heard from the powers that be about what happened. Still waiting for Godot.[/QUOTE]I sent a pm to Jackson last week and suspect it's a software glitch. Let's hope it'll be back on-line in the near future.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1290858]I sent a pm to Jackson last week and suspect it's a software glitch. Let's hope it'll be back on-line in the near future.[/QUOTE]I surely hope so. 800 posts are gone from my post count which means it's been deleted along with the thread, it's not hidden or something.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1290888]I surely hope so. 800 posts are gone from my post count which means it's been deleted along with the thread, it's not hidden or something.[/QUOTE]Now that you mention it, I've noticed that at least 100 of my posts are gone as well.
Jackson will probably get around to fixing it like he fixed the "Bangkok Reports" thread which had disappeared.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1290888]I surely hope so. 800 posts are gone from my post count which means it's been deleted along with the thread, it's not hidden or something.[/QUOTE]So? I doubt even 1 in a 100 viewers look at posts that are weeks or months old, let alone years old.
Their relevancy to the present time is also highly questionable.
For example, the turnover rate of sex workers in BKK seem to be quite high IME, so any reviews about individual girls may be useless. A long time "working girl" is likely to change over the years and become hardened and unenthusiatic, so what you said about her in 2007 or 2010 may no longer be applicable, even if she is still around, which is unlikely.
Furthermore, you have vowed not to post any useful up to date info here, so what value are you to this forum?
[QUOTE=The Pro; 1292916]Bangkok is very quiet at the moment, bars, restaurants and all others are complaining over very few customers around. They are blaming Euro 2012 and its the rainy season. But trying to ignore the strong baht and the ever rising cost of drinks.
We shall see come August whether things recover and it was just Euro 2012 stopping people travelling.[/QUOTE]This sounds like a typical low season. IME TGs will give you the story at any time of the year about few customers. When the rains come you get "cannot go to you today. My home rain to much!" IOW I don't want to get my hair wet. Want to eat som tam, smoke yaba and sleep all day.
Euro 2012. The Euro dollar & economy are ruining it for European 2012 mongering in LOS. LOL. Maybe try again in lucky number 13, if the world hasn't ended.
[QUOTE=The Pro; 1292916]Great time for mongerers at the moment, lots of hungry girls with no customers night after night. Easy to get good prices and good looking girls at the moment. They need their money no matter how pretty they are, or are not.
Supply and demand. Girls are in excess supply and customers are in demand. So bargain well people, its now prime mongering time.[/QUOTE]IME that will change by July.
As for a bunch of men chasing a round ball, flopping and often purposely diving to the ground when barely touched, with much crying and writhing in great agony, do they not have TV's in LOS? Do fans give up on sex for the tourny? I'm sure most Euros love their "football" 2012 more than playing footsies in bed, especially if it's a lame 3 minutes every time.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1291023]So? I doubt even 1 in a 100 viewers look at posts that are weeks or months old, let alone years old.
Their relevancy to the present time is also highly questionable.[/QUOTE]Wrong. They still appear in the search function and some may still be interested to read them. Look at Mick's Map of soapies. 3 years old? But still relevant.
[quote]Furthermore, you have vowed not to post any useful up to date info here, so what value are you to this forum?[/QUOTE]I'll be like you, comment uselessly on other people's posts.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1293952]Wrong. They still appear in the search function and some may still be interested to read them. Look at Mick's Map of soapies. 3 years old? But still relevant.[/QUOTE]Yeah? Opebo was searching for his old posts & couldn't find nuttin. Search that out, if you dare.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1293952]I'll be like you, comment uselessly on other people's posts.[/QUOTE]You & me, you like me, me like you, same same but different. Capiche? Knowing you, you probably have a t-shirt made in Thailand that says that, and you wear it proudly to all the MP's & to work.
I'm a joker, a smoker, not a midnight toker, how about you?
[url]http://www.metrolyrics.com/the-joker-lyrics-steve-miller-band.html[/url]
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1291023]For example, the turnover rate of sex workers in BKK seem to be quite high IME, so any reviews about individual girls may be useless. A long time "working girl" is likely to change over the years and become hardened and unenthusiatic, so what you said about her in 2007 or 2010 may no longer be applicable, even if she is still around, which is unlikely.[/QUOTE]Might be but not 100 percent. Take Rin at Hana massage and her popular ball massage. Still on the case after many years. True that one should base on recent report about her not on 3-4 years ago
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1293847]Want to eat som tam, smoke yaba and sleep all day.[/QUOTE]Mission impossible! Ya ba is a metamphetamine drug (with sometimes caffeine added) and its immediate effects are euphoria, increased physical activity, heightened alertness and increased wakefulness (which makes it popular indeed with SW and before 1970, when it was still legally sold in Thailand, with long-haul truck and bus drivers) , followed by decreased appetite, increased respiration and hypothermia.
Sleep and hunger will elude the Ya ba user.
Recently in the news:
1. Canadian girls die in Phi Phi. Food poisonong?
2. 60 year old Aussie TA stabbed in heart by thief & dies.
3. Also in Phuket Aussie man beaten to point of death.
It is being claimed:
"Recently the Aussie Embassy in BKK admitted Thailand was the one of the most dangerous tourism destinations for Australian tourists."
"The British and Swedish Consulates have also issued similar statements."
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1294101]Sleep and hunger will elude the Ya ba user.[/QUOTE]Clearly not the drug of choice for the sleepy heads who snore through sessions with pinkpearl.
Dear members,
Does anyone know something about some group-fun or ways to get in contact with people know about this kind of fun?
I'm aware of the SOL-bar but cannot find any new posts about this place.
Can anyone check it out again?
Ill be in BKK from the end of June till the end of July.
Hows the weather during this period?
Thanks for helping me!
[QUOTE=Rick666; 1295990]Dear members,
Does anyone know something about some group-fun or ways to get in contact with people know about this kind of fun?[/QUOTE]If you are looking for group sex, I haven't found any mention in this blog in last 10 years. Try other blogs. Or have you heard of Google?
[QUOTE]I'm aware of the SOL-bar but cannot find any new posts about this place. Can anyone check it out again?[/QUOTE]I guess nobody went there recently or thought about posting about it. I guess if you offer say 3, 000-5, 000 Baht I am sure somebody would gladly check it out for you.
[QUOTE]Ill be in BKK from the end of June till the end of July. Hows the weather during this period?[/QUOTE]Cool with a soft breeze and no humidity. Sunny and cloudless. Lovely at this time of the year
[QUOTE=Rick666;1295990]I'm aware of the SOL-bar but cannot find any new posts about this place.[/QUOTE]I made a quick day time pit stop last November as the Mrs. Was with me. Nothing spectacular but did the job. I've read much of the talent has moved to Lollipops 1 on Soi 22 [? ]. Might pay a visit next month.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1296113]I've read much of the talent has moved to Lollipops 1 on Soi 22 [? ].[/QUOTE]It's on Soi 10
[QUOTE=Rick666;1295990]Does anyone know something about some group-fun or ways to get in contact with people know about this kind of fun?[/QUOTE]I am a big fan of group-fun as you can easily find in European swinger-clubs.
However, this seems to be unexplored territory in Thailand. I think it is something which goes against the grain of the Thai culture. We really get a lopsided view of Thai sexual mores when hanging out on this forum, but the vast majority of Thai are indeed very shy and not at all prone to experiments with respect to sex.
And of course, group sex will most probably be considered "improper" according to the Five Precepts. (Do not kill; do not steal: do not lie; do not have improper sex; do not loose control by intoxicants).
A few years ago I read a story somewhere about Police raiding an apartment (perhaps it was in Pattaya) where a farang couple organized swing parties. The article was very unclear on what basis the Police conducted the raid: perhaps some drugs were involved or the women present were really paid-for prostitutes (which would make the organizers guilty of pimping).
If you are into that kind of fun (and good fun it is!) , Germany, the Netherlands and the North of Belgium is really where you have to be.
You might want to check out Craigslist ads for Thailand. I've scored in some group fun via ads there in the past.
[QUOTE=Rick666; 1295990]Dear members,
Does anyone know something about some group-fun or ways to get in contact with people know about this kind of fun?
SNIPPED,
Hows the weather during this period?
Thanks for helping me![/QUOTE]
Thank you very much for those who were willing to help me with my questions.
I understand this kind of fun is not very common in Thai but I cannot do anything about my own turn-ons.
I live in The Netherlands and over here there are a lot of private meetings between usually one or two women and a lot of men for a small fee between the 60 and the 100 Euro's per person.
It turns me on and I would like to do that too while staying in Thailand for my holiday.
Ofcourse I will pick up girls at the usual places, this time I will focus on BJ-bars (my personal fav) , clubs and StreetWalkers.
I was wondering if its normal for regulars to welcome relative new posters with rude and sarcastic remarks?
I am a member for a couple of years and I also pay to enjoy the knowledge and discussions at this site.
That kind of behaviour isn't really encouraging for me to share my own experiences but when its common practice over here I will just read and not post anymore.
In a short answer 'YES'. You are on a open forum and all kinds linger or actively post. You just have to have a thick skin, sometimes, and brush off the 'rudeness and sarcastic remarks'. Takes all kinds of folks in this mongering world.
[QUOTE=Rick666; 1296850]Snipped.
I was wondering if its normal for regulars to welcome relative new posters with rude and sarcastic remarks?
I am a member for a couple of years and I also pay to enjoy the knowledge and discussions at this site.
That kind of behaviour isn't really encouraging for me to share my own experiences but when its common practice over here I will just read and not post anymore.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Rick666;1295990]Dear members, Does anyone know something about some group-fun or ways to get in contact with people know about this kind of fun?[/QUOTE]Just barfine three or four ladies and have your own private group. If you want another guy, I'm sure you could invite one of the cheap charlies in the bar sitting alone with his beer. Or, go to a LB bar and take three pretties, and all your needs will be filled.
[QUOTE]I'm aware of the SOL-bar but cannot find any new posts about this place. Can anyone check it out again?[/QUOTE]I walk by there at least fours days a week. It's still there and going strong. A few of their young "stars" are back, too, after running off with sponsors.
[QUOTE]Ill be in BKK from the end of June till the end of July. Hows the weather during this period?[/QUOTE]Lately the days start off sunny, the clouds build during the day, and often there's a rain shower by 5 o'clock. Sometimes it rains at night, too. Warm and humid most of the time. Rarely does the rain last more than an hour.
See: [url]http://www.tmd.go.th/EN/province.php?id=37[/url]
[QUOTE=Rick666; 1296850]I was wondering if its normal for regulars to welcome relative new posters with rude and sarcastic remarks?[/QUOTE]Yes, it turns them on.
[QUOTE=Rick666; 1296850]Thank you very much for those who were willing to help me with my questions.
I understand this kind of fun is not very common in Thai but I cannot do anything about my own turn-ons.
I live in The Netherlands and over here there are a lot of private meetings between usually one or two women and a lot of men for a small fee between the 60 and the 100 Euro's per person.
It turns me on and I would like to do that too while staying in Thailand for my holiday.
Ofcourse I will pick up girls at the usual places, this time I will focus on BJ-bars (my personal fav) , clubs and StreetWalkers.
I was wondering if its normal for regulars to welcome relative new posters with rude and sarcastic remarks?
I am a member for a couple of years and I also pay to enjoy the knowledge and discussions at this site.
That kind of behaviour isn't really encouraging for me to share my own experiences but when its common practice over here I will just read and not post anymore.[/QUOTE]Yes sometimes people are rude, but it is mostly due to the attitude and lack of effort on part of the new comer to read a few pages and their expectation to be served, as if the rest were "right here waiting for you"
But do not be discouraged, just carry on, do a little research and ask questions to validate rather than just asking endless questions.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1296929]Just barfine three or four ladies and have your own private group. If you want another guy, I'm sure you could invite one of the cheap charlies in the bar sitting alone with his beer. Or, go to a LB bar and take three pretties, and all your needs will be filled.[/QUOTE]Or you could perhaps join a group of Indians?
Sorry, just kiddin'
[QUOTE=One Wing Low; 421087]I am going on a tour of SE Asia in about a month. I will spend 10 days in various spots in Thailand, the rest in SGP and Bali.
While the posts in ISG are very useful, I could use local tour guides who are familiar with the best places for girls, food, entertainment, sight seeing etc.
I prefer someone with culture rather than the low-brow tuktuk and taxi drivers.
Also, any comprehensive guide books for major SE Asia cities, including info for local sex scene, would be very useful.
Please post info or PM me. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I doubt if you can find one tour guide to assist you in all places in Thailand. Beware of tuk-tuk drivers. Most of them try to "guide" you into shops (gems, tailors, souvenirs.) that give them commissions and overcharge you.
You can charter a taxi to drive you around, but traffic in BKK is terrible and you will be stuck in traffic most of the time. Besides, the public transport (skytrain, metro or boats) is very good and much cheaper. They will bring you to all the sights you want to see as a first time visitor.
For girls: avoid the Patpong area. Only clueless tourists are found there. Soi Cowboy and Nana are where you want to be and certainly you do not need a taxi driver to help you there. Perhaps you can even "lease" one of the girls there for a few days and she can guide you around. Don't expect too much though: many girls are not very highly educated and will probably give you a tour of the shopping malls.
You will find food anywhere in Thailand. Just queue at a food stall where Thai are buying and you cannot go wrong. If you don't trust the street vendors go to the food courts you find in most shopping malls. Buy some credit on a food card and munch away! Any leftover credit will be reimbursed when you leave.
Entertainment: depends on what you want. Do go and see the Ladyboy shows in Pattaya.
Sight seeing: any recent guide book will be ok. I like the "Rough Guide" series, but really most of the other guide books will be ok too: they are all rather similar. Just make sure you have a recent edition.
Don't expect any useful information in the guidebooks about the sex-scene.
Simple rule of thumb: ST = 1000. 1500 baht + barfine; LT = 2000. 3000 baht + barfine. Always check your tab or bin after you have ordered a fresh round of drinks and complain immediately if it is not correct.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1297180]Or you could perhaps join a group of Indians?
Sorry, just kiddin'[/QUOTE]LOL. I think that was actually the best advice + he's sure to get a bargain.
Wolvenvacht, good advice. I hope you don't mind if I add a bit.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1297190]I doubt if you can find one tour guide to assist you in all places in Thailand.[/QUOTE]Use the internet (gooogle) , too. WikiPedia and WikiTravel have good information.
[QUOTE]You can charter a taxi to drive you around, but traffic in BKK is terrible and you will be stuck in traffic most of the time.[/QUOTE]Motorcycle taxis work well for short trips. Bangkok public transpo map:
[url]http://www.bangkok-city.com/go/info_transportation.html#Skytrain[/url]
[QUOTE]For girls: avoid the Patpong area. Only clueless tourists are found there. Soi Cowboy and Nana are where you want to be and certainly you do not need a taxi driver to help you there. Perhaps you can even "lease" one of the girls there for a few days and she can guide you around. Don't expect too much though: many girls are not very highly educated and will probably give you a tour of the shopping malls.[/QUOTE]If you can get past the tourist night market scene there are some nice ladies to be found in Patpong. Just not as easy as the sex supermarkets of Nana and SC. If you like BJs, Star of Light in Patpong is the place to go.
Some of the "oilie girls" are pretty sharp and can multitask as tour guides, companions and sex toys. They don't come cheap, though.
[QUOTE]Don't expect any useful information in the guidebooks about the sex-scene.[/QUOTE]Check some other forums about Bangkok and Pattaya for info about the P4P scene.
[QUOTE]Simple rule of thumb: ST = 1000. 1500 baht + barfine; LT = 2000. 3000 baht + barfine.[/QUOTE]Also in massage shops: HJ 300-500; BJ 500-1000; FS 1000-1500 (depends on the main mission of the shop. Knock shop ladies expect more).
[QUOTE=One Wing Low;421087]I am going on a tour of SE Asia in about a month. .[/QUOTE]Wolvenvacht, Fon Tok,
Besides all the useful advice. Did somebody realize that the original request from One Wing Low was posted here on 01. 03. [b]2006[/b]? The info might come a bit late for his visit :) .
Anyway. Please do not hesitate to go through all other [answered or unanswered] posts since 2006 :) .
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1297329]Wolvenvacht, Fon Tok,
Besides all the useful advice. Did somebody realize that the original request from One Wing Low was posted here on 01. 03. [b]2006[/b]? The info might come a bit late for his visit. .
Anyway. Please do not hesitate to go through all other [answered or unanswered] posts since 2006. .
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL][/QUOTE]Wing who?
I forgot to mention the sausages at LL. Maybe Frenchy will chime in on that one!
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1297180]Or you could perhaps join a group of Indians?
Sorry, just kiddin'[/QUOTE]Seriously take offense to the racist comment.
Just because you have a self perception of a superior race, you say all these nonsense on forum, which is clearly anti-racist?
It is a pity we have bigoted assholes like you on this forum. You are no different from a bargirl, who thinks any white skin is superior to their own thai race (even though he might be a fucking janitor by profession).
When did you see Indians engage in group sex? Instead of advising other people on joining, why don't you offer your ass to get fucked?
[QUOTE=AssLover945; 1297435]Seriously take offense to the racist comment.
Just because you have a self perception of a superior race, you say all these nonsense on forum, which is clearly anti-racist?
It is a pity we have bigoted assholes like you on this forum. You are no different from a bargirl, who thinks any white skin is superior to their own thai race (even though he might be a fucking janitor by profession).
When did you see Indians engage in group sex? Instead of advising other people on joining, why don't you offer your ass to get fucked?[/QUOTE]It didn't appear to be a racist comment. Have you read the recent report in the Pattaya forum from Red Mosquito (an Indian guy) who tries to explain the type of behavior that Wolven alluded to? It was very informative. Here is an excerpt from that post:
[QUOTE=Red Mosquito; 1289723]4. A combination of first timers and shopkeepers would rent rooms with twin occupancy and both men will stay in same room. Its stretching your money to the hilt, irritating hilt I shall say. When one guy gets a girl, the other will sit in the lobby or wait and then he will take the same girl or different girl and bang her. The bargain price for a girl where she is getting two men one after the other would be lower than her going to two different clients- she saves time this way. This is again looking at sex as a ten minute fetish one has to have to get rid of the tension in the loins, the face of the girl, experience, figure be damned.
Unfortunate as it may be, seasoned, accomplished and reasonable mongers from the land of the Kama Sutra would also lose out on some good experiences courtesy a generic view of the Go Go bar owners community and fellow white skinned mongers.
Not afraid to call a spade a spade and the majority of Indian mongers in Thailand is something I would not like to be associated with as a friend or acquaintance. I know they are there to have probably the cheapest F*ck of their lives and the eternal kick of having screwed a foreigner or just to see nude girls gyrating in go go bars, go back to their hotel rooms and jerk off. I am happy to NOT belong to the herd and being Indian myself, would say that one has to cultivate the habit, grow up from being sex starved to such an extent that any female body would do and be okay to look at mongering in Thailand as an experience, not a quickie activity. Fortunately I was not so sex starved courtesy a great Girl friend, but for many others of my ilk the sexual frustration combined with keeping a tight grip on ones money results in unpleasant behavior all around. The majority defines the perception, but heck, so be it. The ratio of genuine players to suckers may be skewed, more in India than in other countries, but genuine good players do exist.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AssLover945; 1297435]Seriously take offense to the racist comment.
Just because you have a self perception of a superior race, you say all these nonsense on forum, which is clearly anti-racist?
It is a pity we have bigoted assholes like you on this forum. You are no different from a bargirl, who thinks any white skin is superior to their own thai race (even though he might be a fucking janitor by profession).
When did you see Indians engage in group sex? Instead of advising other people on joining, why don't you offer your ass to get fucked?[/QUOTE]Oh dear, has it come this far that we cannot recognize a joke when it jumps up and bites you?
And I am certainly no racist (actually there is only one race: human) , having a Thai GF for over a year now.
Indian group sex is well documented: did you ever hear of the temple complex of Khajuraho? No? Have a look at 'The Indian Temple Of Sex' youtube video at.
[url]http://youtu.be/-kweTS6ROhw[/url]
Peace and love brother!
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1297329]Wolvenvacht, Fon Tok,
Besides all the useful advice. Did somebody realize that the original request from One Wing Low was posted here on 01. 03. [b]2006[/b]? The info might come a bit late for his visit.[/QUOTE]I noticed it too late Giotto. It seems the links on the forum are all screwed up, with very old posts showing up when you click on any link.
Everytime I add a post, I am magically transferred to the oldest post in that section of the forum. Really annoying but probably just a matter of mai pen rai.
Do guys have any info or tips about this bar in Bangkok.
[url]http://thailand.adultsearch.com/bangkok/girlie-bar-bar-of-prostitution/tequila-pub-bar/13[/url]
My nice will be visiting Thailand.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1297583]I noticed it too late Giotto. It seems the links on the forum are all screwed up, with very old posts showing up when you click on any link.
Everytime I add a post, I am magically transferred to the oldest post in that section of the forum. Really annoying but probably just a matter of mai pen rai.[/QUOTE]Wolvenvacht,
I heard about that phenomenon. But never experienced it by myself.
Jackson has some issues with this website right now, let's hope that he will be able to fix them.
Anyway - still useful advice you added. Thanks.
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
[QUOTE=LawrenceCK; 1297586]Do guys have any info or tips about this bar in Bangkok.
[url]http://thailand.adultsearch.com/bangkok/girlie-bar-bar-of-prostitution/tequila-pub-bar/13[/url]
My nice will be visiting Thailand.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Your [b]niece[/b] Is going to Thailand? I thought all the young western women went to Kenia and the older ones to Turkey?
That bar looks like any other run-of-the-mill bar in that area. Some nights you might pick up a stunning FL there and on other nights there is nothing but dogs.
Are there any experts on Asian or Thai culture here, now that OTH is gone?
I was wondering if you could comment on the following opinion:
"The West is not catching up with Asia, that is completely untrue. For one, the culture of Thailand, especially with regard to sex, is extremely different from the rest of Asia. In Asia, you do not have school kids getting into prostitution, except Thailand. In Asia, you do not have college age girls posting on websites advertising themselves as sugar-babies, except Thailand. Asia, except Thailand, is remarkably conservative and any girl caught doing any of those things is severely ostracized and rejected, even by their own families. If they were to do it, it would have to be driven completely underground and very deeply underground at that. What you said is untrue."
Is it just me, but since being back here in LOS have not been getting old bank notes, there nearly always crisp, are they printing a lot?
PinkPearl, where does that come from?
It doesn't sound correct. Just think of the Philippines. China also has millions of prostitutes, although it doesn't have that reputation. I reckon prostitution is huge all over Asia really, just like it used to be in the West only 100 years ago. The quote also makes it sound like it's normal and accepted to be a hooker in Thailand, and it's not, most girls do not tell their families.
I would venture to say that straight and narrow Thai girls coming from good families are more conservative than Western culture. I can't even meet my GF's dad because we're not engaged and also my occupation isn't the most prestigious LOL.
I just think Thailand has a reputation because a lot of it is geared toward the western sex tourists.
Pink Pearl,
There is usually a great deal of difference between perception and reality.
When you give examples, such as Thai schoolgirls and prostitution, I immediately think of Japan, where it is very common.
In most western countries, the number of prostitutes per head of population is far higher than for any Asian country.
I live in a small town in Australia. Every day, in my local paper, I will find at least half a page of ads by prostitutes. We have a legal brothel in town. At any time, night or day, I can pick up the phone and organise sex of any kind, heterosexual, homosexual, little boys, little girls. Phone sex, lap dances.
As Thailand has its centers for P4P in Pattaya and Bangkok, so do cities in Australia, at Kings Cross, St Kilda etc. The biggest sex tour in the world is in Australia. It is the Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras, and it is supported by government. Front page headlines with the opening of a new, super-brothel, with hundreds of rooms, priced at $270 per hour. 24 hour operation. Asians are amateurs in comparison.
There are 400, 000 registered prostitutes in Germany, and who knows how many unregistered.
So my perception is that prostitution in western countries is far more pervasive than in any Asian country. On the basis of prostitutes per capita.
G
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1298133]I would venture to say that straight and narrow Thai girls coming from good families are more conservative than Western culture. I can't even meet my GF's dad because we're not engaged and also my occupation isn't the most prestigious LOL.
I just think Thailand has a reputation because a lot of it is geared toward the western sex tourists.[/QUOTE]I think she does not want to introduce you to Daddy because:
1. She has already a promised Thai BF.
2. She's just with you now and don't plan on keeping you in the future.
3. She already hinted to Daddy that she may date a Farang and the look on his face said it all: NO, NO and NO
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1297974]Are there any experts on Asian or Thai culture here, now that OTH is gone?
I was wondering if you could comment on the following opinion:
"The West is not catching up with Asia, that is completely untrue. For one, the culture of Thailand, especially with regard to sex, is extremely different from the rest of Asia. In Asia, you do not have school kids getting into prostitution, except Thailand. In Asia, you do not have college age girls posting on websites advertising themselves as sugar-babies, except Thailand. Asia, except Thailand, is remarkably conservative and any girl caught doing any of those things is severely ostracized and rejected, even by their own families. If they were to do it, it would have to be driven completely underground and very deeply underground at that. What you said is untrue."[/QUOTE]I'm no expert but I think I've learned a few things in my 6 years here in Thailand. Based on my own Asian mongering and what I see on other Asian ISG forums and surfing Asian Craig'slist sites, I think prostitution is much more in the open than what I saw in the US. I've not really mongered in Europe so my view is admittedly limited. But in Asia, Thailand is not so different I think. Want a sugar baby in Singapore? PI? Indo? Cambodia? Viet Nam? Hong Kong? Take your pick man!
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1297974]"The West is not catching up with Asia, that is completely untrue.[/QUOTE]Not sure what you meant by that. You have double negative, thereby meaning the West is catching up to Asia. Well although the boundaries are slowly breaking down in Asia as they modernize, it is still far away from the Western values.
As to Thailand, it is an anomaly in the region. All Asian countries have a high rate of prostitution, but only in Thailand it is openly traded. And somehow, it is seen acceptable (at least on the surface). In India there are designated red light areas like Geylang in Singapore but the concept of GFE in these countries is rarely undertaken. Just my 2 cents.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1298225]As to Thailand, it is an anomaly in the region. All Asian countries have a high rate of prostitution, but only in Thailand it is openly traded. And somehow, it is seen acceptable (at least on the surface). In India there are designated red light areas like Geylang in Singapore but the concept of GFE in these countries is rarely undertaken. Just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]I also think that is the difference. In virtually any place on earth you can find somewhere to stick your dick into some paid pussy. But the GFE tenants (such as being seen in public going to dinner, beach, etc) of places like Thailand, PI, and Brazil lead people to think there is more paid sex going on in those places. Whenever a woman mentions that there are a lot of hookers in Thailand I tell them that there are hookers everywhere. Then they say there are more in Thailand. I say a guy can only stick his dick into one at a time so what does it matter how many there are. That usually shuts them up.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1298172]I think she does not want to introduce you to Daddy because:
1. She has already a promised Thai BF.
2. She's just with you now and don't plan on keeping you in the future.
3. She already hinted to Daddy that she may date a Farang and the look on his face said it all: NO, NO and NO[/QUOTE]Haha. Maybe you're on to something. Truth be told, if push came to shove I could meet him, she's often suggested that I clean up my act. What she has insisted on was not unreasonable.
Fwiw, he's an ex cop who was fired for losing a large amount of money. Anyways. Today is my cheat day. I'm off to Dunkin Donuts. Yeeeehaw!
[QUOTE=Gangles; 1298150] I live in a small town in Australia. Every day, in my local paper, I will find at least half a page of ads by prostitutes. We have a legal brothel in town. At any time, night or day, I can pick up the phone and organise sex of any kind, heterosexual, homosexual, little boys, little girls. Phone sex, lap dances.[/QUOTE]
Are you saying that P4P sex with children is legal, or at least widely available, in Australia?
That I can't believe.
Dear Sirs,
Just arrived yesterday and checked out the talent at Gullivers And Hillary.
Both places were filled with customers and some nice girls at Gullivers.
I liked the girls@Hillary Better and there was a nice band.
I'm staying around the corner of Lollipop and I'm thinking of checking out the early shift.
[QUOTE=Gangles; 1298150]Pink Pearl,
There is usually a great deal of difference between perception and reality. <snip
I live in a small town in Australia. Every day, in my local paper, I will find at least half a page of ads by prostitutes. We have a legal brothel in town. At any time, night or day, I can pick up the phone and organise sex of any kind, heterosexual, homosexual, little boys, little girls. Phone sex, lap dances.
As Thailand has its centers for P4P in Pattaya and Bangkok, so do cities in Australia, at Kings Cross, St Kilda etc. The biggest sex tour in the world is in Australia. It is the Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras, and it is supported by government. Front page headlines with the opening of a new, super-brothel, with hundreds of rooms, priced at $270 per hour. 24 hour operation. Asians are amateurs in comparison.
<snip
G[/QUOTE]Funny you should talk about the difference between perception and reality. Because whatever Australia you live in, it isn't the same one I live in, that's for sure.
Let's iron a few things out:
Firstly, yes, I have no doubt your local paper has a half a page of ad from prostitutes. But I do not believe for a moment you can organise P4P with children by one phone call. If you can, it certainly isn't through legal means, and I hope the law finds you and you have a long and brutal time in prison.
Secondly, the Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras is NOT a sex tour! It's a Pride March! There is a world of difference, but being from a small town, you probably don't know the difference, do you.
Thirdly, the brothel of which you speak will not have "hundreds of rooms". It will have 40 rooms and 21 waiting rooms. That's. 61 rooms. Only 2/3rds are for bookings. It'll be 24 hours, but they won't be alone in that aspect. It will be the biggest in Aus, but far from the biggest in the world.
Finally, it's been years since I was in Kings Cross (it is a dirty shithole) , so I can't directly comment. But, St Kilda is far from the hotbed of P4P action it may have once been. Apart from the streetwalkers, which plod action has whittled the number down some what, there is but ONE legal brothel in St Kilda, perhaps 2 or 3 illegal rub and tugs (not telling you where they are either) , zero strip clubs, and 3 adult bookstores. Hardly Nana Plaza, is it?
In fact, if I was going to look for some P4P action, St Kilda would be the last place I would go.
Below is an inspirational letter written by a Falang to an advice columnist (similar to Dear Abby letters). He wants foreigners who're looking for good Thai brides to know that there're some good (but expensive) ones out there. The advisor's response follows his letter.
_____________________________________________________________
Dear Hillary,
I read your column every week and enjoy your comments to your posters. You have a great sense of humor! I must be in a small minority however, because I don't have anything to complain about. I am married to a Thai angel who is everything I ever dreamed of. I met her online, and when I first started writing to her she said 'I am not a bar girl! If that's what you're looking for, get lost! ' I had a feeling right then, that I was heading in the right direction. After reading so many sad stories from other farang gents, I feel really blessed! My wife is a tenured school teacher in a government school. She is attractive, intelligient (sic) , good with money, a great cook and a passionate lover! Needless to say, her parents drove a hard bargain when it came to negotiating the sin sot, but she was worth every baht. We're getting ready to build a little house in Selaphum and I'm looking forward to many wonderful years with my little angel and her sweet family as well. I hope my letter offers a little hope to those fellas who are wondering if there really is someone out there for them.
Dave.
Dear Dave,
It is indeed nice to read of successful marriages between foreigners and Thais, as I generally only hear of the disasters. So your wife is a school teacher, I see. Get her to go over some spellings for you each morning, my Petal. It is 'intelligent' not 'intelligient'. Yes, you can find your soul mate through on-line dating, but you must be very careful and not commit to anything before meeting your angel. That reminds me of the book by Mike Smith called Bangkok Angel. Worth a read by all foreigners who are wondering about mixed marriages. By the way, actually I am against the concept of the sin sot, unless there is a similar return if the marriage fails. A wife is not a commodity to be bought, sold or traded.
Hello VL,
Thanks for your comments.
However, I note that you did not challenge the main premise that there is more prostitution in Australia than in any Asian country.
Do you agree or disagree.
In my little town, a developer wanted to build a brothel. The townspeople protested. Demonstrations, sit ins, presentations to mayor, and both members of parliament.
To no avail.
The brothel went ahead with government consent.
Yet Australians castigate asian countries for their perceived roles as sex destinations and rampant prostitution.
A couple of years ago, I came across, and confronted, a delegation of stone faced Australian feminists in Angeles City. They had gone there to clear up the prostitution business. When I set out the basic information about prostitution in Australia, and suggested that if prostitution is such a blot on society, they should fix up their own country first, before they come to fix up some other country. They realized that they were being hypocrites, and they packed up and went home.
A small blow struck for freedom.
G
[QUOTE=V Lenin; 1298850]Funny you should talk about the difference between perception and reality. Because whatever Australia you live in, it isn't the same one I live in, that's for sure.
Let's iron a few things out:
Firstly, yes, I have no doubt your local paper has a half a page of ad from prostitutes. But I do not believe for a moment you can organise P4P with children by one phone call. If you can, it certainly isn't through legal means, and I hope the law finds you and you have a long and brutal time in prison.
Secondly, the Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras is NOT a sex tour! It's a Pride March! There is a world of difference, but being from a small town, you probably don't know the difference, do you.
Thirdly, the brothel of which you speak will not have "hundreds of rooms". It will have 40 rooms and 21 waiting rooms. That's. 61 rooms. Only 2/3rds are for bookings. It'll be 24 hours, but they won't be alone in that aspect. It will be the biggest in Aus, but far from the biggest in the world.
Finally, it's been years since I was in Kings Cross (it is a dirty shithole) , so I can't directly comment. But, St Kilda is far from the hotbed of P4P action it may have once been. Apart from the streetwalkers, which plod action has whittled the number down some what, there is but ONE legal brothel in St Kilda, perhaps 2 or 3 illegal rub and tugs (not telling you where they are either) , zero strip clubs, and 3 adult bookstores. Hardly Nana Plaza, is it?
In fact, if I was going to look for some P4P action, St Kilda would be the last place I would go.[/QUOTE]
Is there a honeymoon phase guys go through when new to Thailand?
Then after a few years or a decade or two, when their eyes are finally open, it's like the all too familiar marriage blues?
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1299443]Is there a honeymoon phase guys go through when new to Thailand?
Then after a few years or a decade or two, when their eyes are finally open, it's like the all too familiar marriage blues?[/QUOTE]Thailand is no different than anyhere else in the world regarding marriage! The grass never stays green!
LBM
Thailand's brilliant anti-smoking ads with "cute kids":
[url]http://ca.shine.yahoo.com/blogs/shine-on/cute-kids-cigarettes-thailand-anti-smoking-campaign-goes-191902989.html[/url]
Brilliant ad. Really makes you think about what you are doing to yourself.
Forget Thailand if you love girls who love kissing, especially French kissing.
Your chances are low of finding any in Bangkok who will want to do any extended sessions of this sort, let alone an hour or two.
IME with dozens of ladies, not men or katoys, mostly street walking indies, in visiting BKK 24 months since 07.
Maybe go to Brazil or try France instead. I know Canadian girls are into it.
Thai girls would far rather give you a massage, a BBBJ or even fuck you without a condom than make out.
Weird, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if this is an Asian thing.
BTW the usual Thai "kiss" is like a face hug, cheek to cheek.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1301246]Forget Thailand if you love girls who love kissing, especially French kissing.
Your chances are low of finding any in Bangkok who will want to do any extended sessions of this sort, let alone an hour or two.
IME with dozens of ladies, not men or katoys, mostly street walking indies, in visiting BKK 24 months since 07.
Maybe go to Brazil or try France instead. I know Canadian girls are into it.
Thai girls would far rather give you a massage, a BBBJ or even fuck you without a condom than make out.
Weird, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if this is an Asian thing.
BTW the usual Thai "kiss" is like a face hug, cheek to cheek.[/QUOTE]I have found just the opposite. I have really never met a non kisser. Maybe one out of 100.
Maybe you need to brush your teeth and use some listaline
[quote=rick666; 1298820]dear sirs,
just arrived yesterday and checked out the talent at gullivers and hillary.
both places were filled with customers and some nice girls at gullivers.
i liked the girls@hillary better and there was a nice band.
i'm staying around the corner of lollipop and i'm thinking of checking out the early shift.[/quote]go to lollipop!
they have some cute girls.
i was in bkk last week and went 3 times. i found it better than [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and dr. bj. i ended up fucking all 3 in the booth. 1,100 for bbbj and fs.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1301508]I have found just the opposite. I have really never met a non kisser. Maybe one out of 100.
Maybe you need to brush your teeth and use some listaline[/QUOTE]What is listaline? I take very good care of myself orally, brush my teeth & tongue immediately after any meal or beverage, use mouthwash before getting anywhere near a girl, see a professional dental hygenist for cleaning every 1-3 months, get them polished regularly, and practice daily flossing & use of soft picks & sulca brush. I also use lipstick, er lip balm, to keep my lips soft, sweet smelling and shiny.
IME also very few TGs are a "non kisser", as they are almost always up for at least a single open mouthed kiss, but that wasn't what I said or was talking about, was it?
Could it be because I am usually over twice their age? Unattractive or ugly in their estimation? But in Canada pretty SYTs haven't had an issue with enthusiasticly making out with me, so why would TGs of equivalent looks & age be different IME? Random variation? Pure luck of the draw? Difference in cultures? Different ways of kissing?
I doubt it is that I pay them so much more than their usual ST rate.
Needless to say, since I find so few that are into kissing, with some experience, passion & savoir-faire, the ones that do are keepers.
I'd also think the ladies I am not interested in, who are average at best in looks, may be more enthusiastic about mouth to mouth encounters of the first kind. Maybe these are the ones your stats are based on?
OTOH perhaps you are a young kid who looks like Justin Bieber, a middle aged Brad Pitt type, TGs are impressed with your Dan Juan moves, or you are a member of the 444 club.
All in all, ATM & all things considered, till I see some convincing evidence to the contrary, I'm sticking with my theory that TGs are not nearly as much into Western style smooching as Western peoples are. At least in the street walking sex worker business.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1301246]Thai girls would far rather give you a massage, a BBBJ or even fuck you without a condom than make out.
Weird, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if this is an Asian thing.[/QUOTE]You find this more in the younger girls. Pick them a bit older and they'll all kiss you!
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1301587]What is listaline?[/QUOTE]Listerine, that is
PinkPearl,
Don't know what to tell you. You seem to be doing all the right things? I myself have had good luck with the DFK / GFE 9 out of 10 times from good looking to bad looking fat and skinny. I like to swap that spit with the best of them tongue action that reminds me of the movie Alien. When I'm on top missionary I get my tongue going if it was a sword fight. The best of them is when they give you DFK, DGC, DFS.
Well, maybe better luck in the future?
LBM
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1301646]Listerine, that is[/QUOTE]You must have never heard a Thai girl say it.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1301681]You must have never heard a Thai girl say it.[/QUOTE]Nevertheless somebody asked What listaline is.
Now we wait for a Thai girl to ask here what listerine is LOL
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1301683]Nevertheless somebody asked What listaline is.
Now we wait for a Thai girl to ask here what listerine is LOL[/QUOTE]Do you listen to them? I have to explain it.
You stay in a hotel loom.
You go to a lestaurant.
Their r comes out like an l.
Listen up next time.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1301508]I have found just the opposite. I have really never met a non kisser. Maybe one out of 100.
Maybe you need to brush your teeth and use some listaline[/QUOTE]There are different things going on in a girl's mind when it comes to kissing.
Western romances starts with kissing and proceeds step by step till she lets you into her pants. Even here there are girls who kiss the moment you are together and ends up in sex quickly. Asian girls are culturally not into kissing. Public affectionate kissing is not in their culture. Sex is mainly take your undergarments, stick it in, and once the guy is done it is over. No total naked sex. Kissing and naked sex, DATY etc, they learned from western men. There are married couple who never kissed open mouth.
As for P4P girls young novices do not like to kiss. Mainly because they never experienced it. Once you teach them the pleasure of it they kiss. Especially in the act of sex you kiss them.
Regular brushing is good before and after meals. Listerine is alcohol based. It just masks underlying odor just like cologne or perfume.
Many girls think kissing open mouth causes diseases. Whilte it is true lot safer than BB sex which most girls are open to.
Personally I would not like to kiss P4P girls continuously. That is reserved for regular girlfriends.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1301688]Do you listen to them? I have to explain it.
You stay in a hotel loom.
You go to a lestaurant.
Their are comes out like an l.
Listen up next time.[/QUOTE]You light and me know it.
I'm looking for some ADD medication to boost focus once in a while when working on something heavy.
I did some research, amphetamine-like drugs such as Ritalin and Adderall aren't readily available in Thailand, even from my usual pharmacy in Patpong where they do have Ambien etc. I guess this is too controlled due to the yaba epidemic. Correct me if I'm wrong and let me know if you have a source.
As an alternative, I've thought about looking for Provigil (Modafinil). Is that available somewhere in BKK?
Failing that, does anyone have experience importing the above into the country (purchasing on online pharmacies)?
PM if necessary.
[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1301776]I'm looking for some ADD medication to boost focus once in a while when working on something heavy.
I did some research, amphetamine-like drugs such as Ritalin and Adderall aren't readily available in Thailand, even from my usual pharmacy in Patpong where they do have Ambien etc. I guess this is too controlled due to the yaba epidemic. Correct me if I'm wrong and let me know if you have a source.
As an alternative, I've thought about looking for Provigil (Modafinil). Is that available somewhere in BKK?
Failing that, does anyone have experience importing the above into the country (purchasing on online pharmacies)?
PM if necessary.[/QUOTE]Viagra and Kamagra I can understand. But Ritalin? I realize you have a need of these medicines, but asking them on a sex forum? Next, we will have a query whether a Toyota is better Dodge and where to get it for cheapest in BKK. Can we please keep this forum to sex related issues. But if there are any doctors on board, please feel to PM him.
This is the general thread and there are many guys who live in BKK who can be helpful on different issues. Every forum has a 'general' thread where whatever off topic chit-chat is posted, this is ours. Yes, when I feel like buying a car in BKK I'll ask for tips here as well because I know exactly who to trust on this forum from reading it often. I don't want to go post this on another forum where I might be following the suggestions of their local Harold444 and waste my time on a fool's errand.
I don't see what's the big deal. If anything, what clutters this thread are the endless "but this is a sex forum" whining posts from the self-appointed forum police. Let people discuss whatever they want in General, don't read it if you are not interested.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1301587]What is listaline? I take very good care of myself orally, brush my teeth & tongue immediately after any meal or beverage, use mouthwash before getting anywhere near a girl, see a professional dental hygenist for cleaning every 1-3 months, get them polished regularly, and practice daily flossing & use of soft picks & sulca brush. I also use lipstick, er lip balm, to keep my lips soft, sweet smelling and shiny.
IME also very few TGs are a "non kisser", as they are almost always up for at least a single open mouthed kiss, but that wasn't what I said or was talking about, was it?
Could it be because I am usually over twice their age? Unattractive or ugly in their estimation? But in Canada pretty SYTs haven't had an issue with enthusiasticly making out with me, so why would TGs of equivalent looks & age be different IME? Random variation? Pure luck of the draw? Difference in cultures? Different ways of kissing?
I doubt it is that I pay them so much more than their usual ST rate.
Needless to say, since I find so few that are into kissing, with some experience, passion & savoir-faire, the ones that do are keepers.
I'd also think the ladies I am not interested in, who are average at best in looks, may be more enthusiastic about mouth to mouth encounters of the first kind. Maybe these are the ones your stats are based on?
OTOH perhaps you are a young kid who looks like Justin Bieber, a middle aged Brad Pitt type, TGs are impressed with your Dan Juan moves, or you are a member of the 444 club.
All in all, ATM & all things considered, till I see some convincing evidence to the contrary, I'm sticking with my theory that TGs are not nearly as much into Western style smooching as Western peoples are. At least in the street walking sex worker business.[/QUOTE]Sounds like your hygiene is good. :)
Sorry. I know I can be an AH.
I am very old so it is not age.
Maybe I just lucky with it. They actually seem to like to kiss me. I think they feel they are giving an old dude a thrill.
If you are P4P, next time just throw it into the negotiations. It may be like BBBJ. They might not do it if you do not ask.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1301754]You light and me know it.[/QUOTE]HAHA. I like it when they ask if I am lich "rich".
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1301653]PinkPearl,
Don't know what to tell you. You seem to be doing all the right things? I myself have had good luck with the DFK / GFE 9 out of 10 times from good looking to bad looking fat and skinny. I like to swap that spit with the best of them tongue action that reminds me of the movie Alien. When I'm on top missionary I get my tongue going if it was a sword fight. The best of them is when they give you DFK, DGC, DFS.
Well, maybe better luck in the future?
LBM[/QUOTE]If you eat the pussy and exchange rim jobs prior to DFK, it adds a little spice.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1301779]Can we please keep this forum to sex related issues.[/QUOTE]In the General thread? Who would go looking for sex there? H444?
Its been my experience that Thai broads are into kissing just as much as western broads. I think if they like you, they'll be much more responsive. But then again that's pretty much sound logic, guys on here would be more responsive kissing a hot girl rather than a street junkie with Meth mouth LOL.
OTOH, my experiences may differ from others as I'm quite hansum hehe.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1302143]If you eat the pussy and exchange rim jobs prior to DFK, it adds a little spice.[/QUOTE]Oh, its like going to Baskin Robbins and having 31 choices?
LBM
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1302273]Its been my experience that Thai broads are into kissing just as much as western broads. I think if they like you, they'll be much more responsive. But then again that's pretty much sound logic, guys on here would be more responsive kissing a hot girl rather than a street junkie with Meth mouth LOL.
OTOH, my experiences may differ from others as I'm quite hansum hehe.[/QUOTE]If you have facial hair like a moustache, beard, goatee = no kisses for you
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1302290]If you have facial hair like a moustache, beard, goatee = no kisses for you[/QUOTE]A kiss from a man without a moustache is like eating your morning egg without salt.
My Thai GF is very much into kissing and I have a nice moustache.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1302290]If you have facial hair like a moustache, beard, goatee = no kisses for you[/QUOTE]I've got a full beard and moustache. Thai girls love it. They touch it, rub their face against it and they kiss me all the time.
I think the earlier poster was spot on. If they are in to you (or at least in a good enough mood to pretend they are in to you), they will kiss you. If not then you just have to settle for BJs and boom boom...lol.
[QUOTE=Ixgzca;1302417]I've got a full beard and moustache. Thai girls love it.[/QUOTE]I don't doubt your experiences, but they just don't jive with mine. In all my experiences with Thai girls, I have found they just don't like facial hair. I used to sport a short growth, but I cleaned up and got rid of it after my 2nd trip to LOS back in '91. There were just too many complaints and negative comments like "Oh, it scratches." Things like that. I enjoy DFK as much as anyone, so for me, being clean shaven is just as important for punting as showering, wearing clean clothes and fresh breath. Thai girls are very big on cleanliness and hygiene. They consider a beard as being not very clean. I think you can get away with it a lot more in the Philippines where girls seem to not care as much.
My maxim is, I shave so you shave. I want to see your pretty clean pussy and perhaps I will kiss you there. Fortunately, most Thai girls I have known are into shaving their pussy. I wish they would advise their Chinese sisters of the benefits.
Its been my experience firsthand that Thais. Make that Asian girls in general prefer clean cut dudes. However, I think a 5 oclock shadow is ok, in fact they think its sexy in that it reminds them of Brad Pitt in flight club. I'd be willing to say Ix's beard is clean cut like Sean Connery or brad pitt's shadow. Something like that.
Good looking Thai girls usually don't go for guys with unkempt beards with pieces of McDonalds cornpie stuck in it LOL
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1302491]Its been my experience firsthand that Thais. Make that Asian girls in general prefer clean cut dudes. However, I think a 5 oclock shadow is ok, in fact they think its sexy in that it reminds them of Brad Pitt in flight club. I'd be willing to say Ix's beard is clean cut like Sean Connery or brad pitt's shadow. Something like that.
Good looking Thai girls usually don't go for guys with unkempt beards with pieces of McDonalds cornpie stuck in it LOL[/QUOTE]In my dealings, most Asians find it sexy. Only my barber (a youngish Thai woman) has told me that she prefers when I am clean shaven. I've been told on many occasions not to trim it and let it be . I'm definitely not like this Brad Pitt but, I keep a full beard somewhat like the other guy but a little longer. There are times when I grow it out quite a bit and I notice no drop in attention from the ladies.
[QUOTE=Ixgzca; 1302417]I've got a full beard and moustache. Thai girls love it. They touch it, rub their face against it and they kiss me all the time.
I think the earlier poster was spot on. If they are in to you (or at least in a good enough mood to pretend they are in to you) , they will kiss you. If not then you just have to settle for BJs and boom boom. LOL.[/QUOTE]I used to think the same when I was only dealing with Hookers (and even then, many commented negatively on my trimmed beard). Once I started to go more on the non P4P side, it is obvious that girls Love a clean shaven man. I would let my beard grow for a few days and they would complain that it hurts "jep", but when I shave, they just love to caress my face and put their face against it.
Maybe your experience is different, but I found that a girl may be curious and attracted by a beard at first (let's face it, Thai men have no hair) they get bored of it quickly.
On the other hand, I got a lot of grief from non P4P girls when I asked them to wax / shave their arms, backs and legs LOL
Reality Check!
How many of us can really truly grow a decent mustache or beard that looks like the picture on the left that was shown? If you ask a Thai women because they never want to be confrontational they will just say things like up to you! But like most women in the end once they got you want to change you! Another thought many of you who think they like it as long as you are paying for it they don't have much of a choice its just business to them! Just like you being fat, bald, and even stinky in general its begins and ends with the $$$$. It isn't sexy unless you look like the guy on the left!
When it comes to clean cut dudes I agree but I'm undecided when it comes to some Thais, I've seen many girls working at a very popular go go in Pattaya with their husbands or boyfriend and I wonder? Are they ugly (who am I to talk) just my opinion but I look at them, their hair seem unwashed, teeth rotting, etc. The end of the day I can go home, look in the mirror (if it doesn't crack again) and feel pretty good about myself after what I have seen?
LBM
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1302640]I used to think the same when I was only dealing with Hookers (and even then, many commented negatively on my trimmed beard). Once I started to go more on the non P4P side, it is obvious that girls Love a clean shaven man. I would let my beard grow for a few days and they would complain that it hurts "jep", but when I shave, they just love to caress my face and put their face against it.
Maybe your experience is different, but I found that a girl may be curious and attracted by a beard at first (let's face it, Thai men have no hair) they get bored of it quickly.
On the other hand, I got a lot of grief from non P4P girls when I asked them to wax / shave their arms, backs and legs LOL[/QUOTE]That's what happens when you go to the zoo for your pussy LOL.
A few months back I got a call while I was on my bike. I pull over to take the call, while talking I noticed a white skin cutie looking at me sitting outside a massage establishment. After the call, I walked up and ask if she does oil massage she said yes so I decided to give it a test run of a hour. After a quick shower and she didn't protest me being naked on the mat. I knew I was in for some extras. Massage wasn't up to par for my standards and little teasing? But I did get the extra's but while I was on top I wanted her legs on my shoulder while I raised them LBM went limp, for such a cutie and white skin she had more hair on her legs than I and that was a turn off. Trying to lick her legs was like trying to lick sandpaper?
LBM
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1302640]I used to think the same when I was only dealing with Hookers (and even then, many commented negatively on my trimmed beard). Once I started to go more on the non P4P side, it is obvious that girls Love a clean shaven man. I would let my beard grow for a few days and they would complain that it hurts "jep", but when I shave, they just love to caress my face and put their face against it.[/QUOTE]Sorry about that Nic. I thought it would be a given that I'm not talking about hookers...lol. I should be more descriptive. Regular Asian non-working girls have preferred my beard. What a working girl says she likes or dislikes about me has no bearing in my mind. They just tell you what you want to hear.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1302650]Reality Check!
How many of us can really truly grow a decent mustache or beard that looks like the picture on the left that was shown?[/QUOTE]This is possible for anyone who has a full face of hair. Just trim it down to the desired dimensions. Of course if a person's facial hair grows in patches then this won't work.
I myself have sometimes, and with great success, grew myself a goatee. And mostly I shave every2-3 days or sth. Almost never can the girls find me cleanshaven (not in face, hehe). I have never heard any complaints from them. In fact women tends to enjoy my goatee scrub when I give them a DATY session. I keep my goatee hair not to long so it keeps its stiffness and when rubbing their vaginaarea with it the women tends to enjoy themselves (if they act or not I would not know but sometimes you can tell from the juices produced and I learned somewhere that it is difficult to act and then produce pussylemonade).
Just my experience.
[QUOTE=Ixgzca;1302691]What a working girl says she likes or dislikes about me has no bearing in my mind. They just tell you what you want to hear.[/QUOTE]Nevertheless they might not like a man with a beard so their service might be "just about". True we pay them, but how many times have we seen WG staying away from certain customers, for a right or wrong reason?
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1302491]Its been my experience firsthand that Thais. Make that Asian girls in general prefer clean cut dudes. However, I think a 5 oclock shadow is ok, in fact they think its sexy in that it reminds them of Brad Pitt in flight club. I'd be willing to say Ix's beard is clean cut like Sean Connery or brad pitt's shadow. Something like that.
Good looking Thai girls usually don't go for guys with unkempt beards with pieces of McDonalds cornpie stuck in it LOL[/QUOTE]I usually don't go for Thai girls with unkempt pussies with pieces of McDonalds cornpie stuck in them, although now and then the stray one does seem to turn up in my bed.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1302640]On the other hand, I got a lot of grief from non P4P girls when I asked them to wax / shave their arms, backs and legs LOL[/QUOTE]I have a University student in BKK with more hair on her legs and twat than a grizzly bear. But of course I'm not fool enough to say anything to her about it.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1302756]I have a University student in BKK with more hair on her legs and twat than a grizzly bear. But of course I'm not fool enough to say anything to her about it.[/QUOTE]Why not? Affraid she could leave you? (yes, that could be the case).
Thing is, Thai guys don't give a damn about wether a girl is hairy or not so the girls never bothered and I think it's not in their culture to wax. It makes me laugh that all girls shave their armpits but would leave a moustache or hair on their arms and legs.
I have hair and always playfully joke with girls that if they remove the hair, they would look whiter. If you use a cream, it does not hurt and goes away in the shower. Surprisingly, many girls accepted and after caressing their own hairless arms and legs, loved it!
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1302760]Why not? Affraid she could leave you? (yes, that could be the case).
Thing is, Thai guys don't give a damn about wether a girl is hairy or not so the girls never bothered and I think it's not in their culture to wax. It makes me laugh that all girls shave their armpits but would leave a moustache or hair on their arms and legs.[/QUOTE]Now that you mention it, said chick does have a moustache as well. Seriously. WTF.
Guys, I need some of your execellent advise. I will be in Thailand in Janurary and need a place to to spend a few days just to change the scenery. I have been to Pattaya, BKK, Chang Mai, and Phuket. I am thinking of maybe Ko Sumoi, Udon, Hua Hin, Kuala Lampur or Pheon Phen. I will be looking to spend some time with different ladies. I have looked at these places both here on ISG and other sites. Even went to the book store to read about each.
So my question to those who are actually familar with these places, what would you recommend. I would like some sight seeing with pussy available when needed.
Thanks in advance and I will also try to keep up to date on the different sights daily.
[QUOTE=Mackin;1304000]I will be in Thailand in January and need a place to spend a few days just to change the scenery. I have been to Pattaya, BKK, Chang Mai, and Phuket. I am thinking of maybe Koh Sumui, Udon, Hua Hin, Kuala Lampur or Phnom Penh. I will be looking to spend some time with different ladies. I would like some sightseeing with pussy available when needed.[/QUOTE]Pussy is available in a lot of places. But the list of possibilities narrows down to a few when you factor in your requirements of some sightseeing (cultural and or natural) and relative short distance from BKK (time constraint).
Phnom Penh is a real good 3 – 5 day excursion. Kind of like a mini BKK (temples, palaces, museums, markets). Reasonable prices, a lot of bars with some good women, sightseeing, good food, and real close to BKK.
Hong Kong or Macau is another good choice. Great women, very interesting modern city (HKG), old world colonial charm plus five star modern casinos (Macau), great food (HKG & Macau), but on the expensive side. Relatively close to BKK.
Koh Samui. Real nice beaches with a small but adequate bar scene. Nothing like Pattaya or even Phuket. If you want a different Thai beach excursion than what you have aready experienced, with some girls at night, this is a good choice.
AC. A hell of a lot of cheap GFE Filipina pussy. Not much sightseeing. It is all about the girls. Direct flights from BKK.
There are other possibilities, like Ko Chang (very good beaches, but limited girl action) for example, but I think what I gave you above covers your best bets. You can't go wrong with any one of them.
PP gets my vote. I did a 5 day there back in March. Took the bus to Siem Reap to see Angkor Wat. And everything is on the cheap
[QUOTE=Mackin; 1304000]Guys, I need some of your execellent advise.
So my question to those who are actually familar with these places, what would you recommend. I would like some sight seeing with pussy available when needed.[/QUOTE]I like Hua Hin. It's not too big, there are lady bars, and the beach is pleasant.
It's easy to get there, too. Just catch a van from Victory Monument. Lots of inexpensive hotels. Good seafood.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1304111]I like Hua Hin. It's not too big, there are lady bars, and the beach is pleasant.
It's easy to get there, too. Just catch a van from Victory Monument. Lots of inexpensive hotels. Good seafood.[/QUOTE]I agree, HH is good for a couple days and it's a nice change to Pattaya and BKK
Isn't HH 4 or 5 hours away by car though? That's far for just a few days away.
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1304136]Isn't HH 4 or 5 hours away by car though? That's far for just a few days away.[/QUOTE]By private car from central Bangkok about 1. 5 hours. By van a little over two hours. The train is a little over three hours.
Of course, if you leave at 3:30pm at the start of rush hour it could take longer!
Gentlemen, I thank you for your time and responces. NB, I am very well aquainted with AC. And will be there in October. HK is to expensive for this trip. So it looks like HH or PP is my best bet. I take it Udon would not be that great or at least near the top of the list.
Again thanks for your input. Maybe will get a chance to meet some of you in person.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1304107]PP gets my vote. I did a 5 day there back in March. Took the bus to Siem Reap to see Angkor Wat. And everything is on the cheap[/QUOTE]PP gets my vote for a number of reasons. Never been there & will never go.
Generally, does anyone know which credit cards DO NOT charge an additional service fee or charge when using your card in Thailand. I rarely use my cards there, but was surprised at the amount charged for "foreign" transactions. I used the card only for my hotel and tailor bills.
Also, in getting cash advances on credit cards (which I normally would not do except in an emergency) , are there any cards that have lower fees or charges? Is there a preferred institution or exchange that will give better rates or better service?
[QUOTE=Rodwint2; 1306228]Generally, does anyone know which credit cards DO NOT charge an additional service fee or charge when using your card in Thailand. I rarely use my cards there, but was surprised at the amount charged for "foreign" transactions. I used the card only for my hotel and tailor bills.
Also, in getting cash advances on credit cards (which I normally would not do except in an emergency) , are there any cards that have lower fees or charges? Is there a preferred institution or exchange that will give better rates or better service?[/QUOTE]Capital One. No fx transaction fees anywhere, no annual charges and a pretty good reward program.
American Express pre paid gift card has no fee on the first ATM withdrawal in every month up to $500. The prepaid card can be reloaded with funds from your checking account over the internet at any time with no charge. After the first withdrawal of the month you will be charged a few bucks for subsequent withdrawals, but I find it a handy back up and cheaper than cash advances from credit cards.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1306242]Capital One. No fx transaction fees anywhere, no annual charges and a pretty good reward program.
American Express pre paid gift card has no fee on the first ATM withdrawal in every month up to $500. The prepaid card can be reloaded with funds from your checking account over the internet at any time with no charge. After the first withdrawal of the month you will be charged a few bucks for subsequent withdrawals, but I find it a handy back up and cheaper than cash advances from credit cards.[/QUOTE]Thank you. Unusual for Capitol One, they seem to be the one who always finds any fee they can stick you with any time. That is one of the reasons I dropped them a couple of years ago, along with the fact that it had the highest interest rates for even folks who had credit scores above average.
[QUOTE=Rodwint2;1306335]Thank you. Unusual for Capitol One, they seem to be the one who always finds any fee they can stick you with any time. That is one of the reasons I dropped them a couple of years ago, along with the fact that it had the highest interest rates for even folks who had credit scores above average.[/QUOTE]Having learned my lesson a long, long time ago, I always pay my credit card bills on time and in full. That way I avoid the high interest rates and penalties. Credit card debt is one of the worst ways to borrow money with the exception of those Zero interest 12 month balance transfers the card companies are always offering. But if you are late on a payment or fail to pay off the balance by the end of the zero interest rate grace year, they will really stick it to you. This is a real lucrative side of their business. But, I assure you Cap One has zero fees on FX transactions in Asia, Europe, and SA. I have been using their visa card abroad for many years and I think they are one of the better cards to carry.
If you don't like Capital One, check out the Chase Marriott Rewards card and Chase Intercontinental cards. They are zero FX transaction Fee Cards too. They have an annual fee which is waived the first year and entirely offset thereafter by a free voucher night at any one of their respective hotels worldwide, category 5 or less. If you qualify for their cards, they will entice you to sign up with 30, 000 to 50, 000 points bonus, which translates into two or three free nights depending on the hotel. It is not a bad deal.
The bottom line: never pay credit card FX transaction fees. They are a rip off. And always pay the credit card bill in total. Never let them charge you interest or late fees.
I'll add my voice to Capital One. I have both the Mastercard and Visa brands from Cap One and have used them for years overseas with no fees of any sort. Like the other poster I always pay the bill in full and on time. I have an aversion to giving my money away for any kind of fee.
[QUOTE=Rodwint2;1306335]Thank you. Unusual for Capitol One, they seem to be the one who always finds any fee they can stick you with any time. That is one of the reasons I dropped them a couple of years ago, along with the fact that it had the highest interest rates for even folks who had credit scores above average.[/QUOTE]
Hello gents.
I'm making a 10 day journey to Thailand in a couple weeks because I need to get out of Shanghai and because the flights are damn cheap.
Right now I am RTFFing and researching feverishly to choose a destination. On previous visits I've done Bangkok, Pattaya, Phuket, Koh Phangan, Koh Phi Phi.
I have three priorities on this trip:
Snorkeling.
Girls.
Substances (weed and shrooms)
Koh Phangan is great for the last one. Koh Phi Phi is good for the first and for weed. I know I will not find an all-in-one location, especially at my budget (I am looking at accommodations that are 1000 / night or less) but I am asking for the two baht of you seasoned thai hands.
This far I am leaning towards either returning to Koh Phangan (although the party scene in Haad Rin is becoming disgusting and overdone, I could stay at another beach and visit HR for the substances. But Girls, I do nto know.) , or somewhere with excellent snorkeling in the Andaman Sea (Right now I am considering Koh Kradan or Trang with a stop in Krabi to supply myself with the last priority. Assuming I can find it).
So, any suggestions? Anyone had good experience and advice to give on P4P on Koh Phangan or Trang? Any other bros also partake of the aforementioned substances and suggest where to go?
I've read the stories of the prosecution for drugs. So I want to be careful as I have in the past.
Ira
Does anybody know where to buy " Butea Superba " in BKK? Search results show only online shops, I prefer to buy from a herbal medicine shop.
Wismar
[QUOTE=Ira Johnson; 1310410]Hello gents.
I'm making a 10 day journey to Thailand in a couple weeks because I need to get out of Shanghai and because the flights are damn cheap.
Right now I am RTFFing and researching feverishly to choose a destination. On previous visits I've done Bangkok, Pattaya, Phuket, Koh Phangan, Koh Phi Phi.
I have three priorities on this trip:
Snorkeling.
Girls.
Substances (weed and shrooms)
Koh Phangan is great for the last one. Koh Phi Phi is good for the first and for weed. I know I will not find an all-in-one location, especially at my budget (I am looking at accommodations that are 1000 / night or less) but I am asking for the two baht of you seasoned thai hands.
This far I am leaning towards either returning to Koh Phangan (although the party scene in Haad Rin is becoming disgusting and overdone, I could stay at another beach and visit HR for the substances. But Girls, I do nto know.) , or somewhere with excellent snorkeling in the Andaman Sea (Right now I am considering Koh Kradan or Trang with a stop in Krabi to supply myself with the last priority. Assuming I can find it).
So, any suggestions? Anyone had good experience and advice to give on P4P on Koh Phangan or Trang? Any other bros also partake of the aforementioned substances and suggest where to go?
I've read the stories of the prosecution for drugs. So I want to be careful as I have in the past.
Ira[/QUOTE]Snorkeling: Google it.
Girls: Just walk around.
Substances: Yeah, some dude will tell you. Plus, you are a fool to engage in that shit. Have fun getting BF'd in a Thai jail.
I tried the August salon between soi 5 and 7; it was recommended by Bionicman and Pita123. Good fast smiling service. The location is convenient. Price. 400 bahts. I was satisfied and would recommend it.
Forget the drugs
I think you should try snorkelling some pussy and forget about the substances.
Yaba is very popular there but is strong shit I was wasted for nearly two days when I tried some.
I got some from one of my LT "girlfriends" and she was paranoid about using it with some one else.
If you get caught in Thailand with any "substance" you can kiss your life good bye.
Imagine barack Obama going to a kkk meeting or a rabbi turning up to mecca-
Well you will be in worse sh*t than them.
I am quite surprised you want to risk it buddy but its your call at the end of the day
U can check out youtube videos of visitors to thailands famous Bangkok hilton that is one hotel.
That no one wants to go to.
There was a scam going on in Pattaya where thai guys would offer to sell you drugs on the street and then send the cops to your door to.
Bust you so be careful of who supplys you with your stuff.
I can't stress enough how dangerous getting caught with drugs is but its your choice.
There was a french jewish guy staying in my hotel who got busted in the above set up don't know wot happined to him.
But I really felt bad for this jewish guy (and I am a muslim) I even tried to explain to the cops but they were all in it together.
Just enjoy the chicks if you go to soi 7 there is a bar at the bottom with 1 snooker table (forgotton the name) there is a chick there called penn tell her turkeyman sent you
10/10 only 1200 bht for LT she will give you such a good time you will forget about snorkelling and drugs.
I have still to write my first report on my maiden mongering trip to LOS and its been 6 months since I have been back- just stuck at work with projects and usual BS.
But its on its way guys.
[QUOTE=Ira Johnson; 1310410]Hello gents.
I'm making a 10 day journey to Thailand in a couple weeks because I need to get out of Shanghai and because the flights are damn cheap.
Right now I am RTFFing and researching feverishly to choose a destination. On previous visits I've done Bangkok, Pattaya, Phuket, Koh Phangan, Koh Phi Phi.
I have three priorities on this trip:
Snorkeling.
Girls.
Substances (weed and shrooms)
Koh Phangan is great for the last one. Koh Phi Phi is good for the first and for weed. I know I will not find an all-in-one location, especially at my budget (I am looking at accommodations that are 1000 / night or less) but I am asking for the two baht of you seasoned thai hands.
This far I am leaning towards either returning to Koh Phangan (although the party scene in Haad Rin is becoming disgusting and overdone, I could stay at another beach and visit HR for the substances. But Girls, I do nto know.) , or somewhere with excellent snorkeling in the Andaman Sea (Right now I am considering Koh Kradan or Trang with a stop in Krabi to supply myself with the last priority. Assuming I can find it).
So, any suggestions? Anyone had good experience and advice to give on P4P on Koh Phangan or Trang? Any other bros also partake of the aforementioned substances and suggest where to go?
I've read the stories of the prosecution for drugs. So I want to be careful as I have in the past.
Ira[/QUOTE]
Someone's grumpy today!
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1310540]Snorkeling: Google it.
Girls: Just walk around.
Substances: Yeah, some dude will tell you. Plus, you are a fool to engage in that shit. Have fun getting BF'd in a Thai jail.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1310591]I tried the August salon between soi 5 and 7; it was recommended by Bionicman and Pita123. Good fast smiling service. The location is convenient. Price. 400 bahts. I was satisfied and would recommend it.[/QUOTE]Even if an hair salon is nothing dramatic, good that you reported back as we all know YMMV, so we are already tow reasonably satisfied. Now you haev to try one of the "shaving" places recommended here: Nana MP or the salon in the small soi opposite Beer Garden (I did not try the lattest personally but a friend mentioned to me a very happy girl doing the service)
Observation 124b re Thai P4P girls:
They'd rather kiss, lick and suck your ass & bum hole than your lips or tongue.
Weird or what?
Has anyone had a full medical check up or any treatment at this hospital? Do the staffs speak reasonable eng, I am told all doctors do. How far is it from Ashok?
[QUOTE=Mackin; 1304000]Guys, I need some of your execellent advise. I will be in Thailand in Janurary and need a place to to spend a few days just to change the scenery. I have been to Pattaya, BKK, Chang Mai, and Phuket. I am thinking of maybe Ko Sumoi, Udon, Hua Hin, Kuala Lampur or Pheon Phen. I will be looking to spend some time with different ladies. I have looked at these places both here on ISG and other sites. Even went to the book store to read about each.
So my question to those who are actually familar with these places, what would you recommend. I would like some sight seeing with pussy available when needed.
Thanks in advance and I will also try to keep up to date on the different sights daily.[/QUOTE]Try Hua Hin for a few days, then find your way from there to Koh Samui.
Nice place / beaches / night life. Get your self a motorbike and explore the several beaches. On the way back book any girl you like from the various massage parlours for an early evening massage at your hotel with FS for about 1000Baht. Have a nap then go out for dinner and disco / bar shoping. Stay at Chaweng beach area.
After a few days, if you get bored, get a Bangkok Airways direct flight to Pattaya for about 3600Baht and you are done. If you like it stay there and fly back to Bangkok or take the bus.
[QUOTE=Mad Harry;1312183]Has anyone had a full medical check up or any treatment at this hospital? Do the staffs speak reasonable eng, I am told all doctors do. How far is it from Ashok?[/QUOTE]If you are around ASOK (I guess that's what you tried to write) why not go to either Bumrumgrad or Samitivej? Both are 5 star Hospitals and Doctors are Graduated of Aussies Universities (for the most part). Why go all the fuck away to Ladphrao?
If you need a full VD check then the small clinic soi 11 would work as well.
[url]http://www.bumrungrad.com/thailandhospital[/url]
[url]http://www.samitivejhospitals.com/Home/en[/url]
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1312286]If you are around ASOK (I guess that's what you tried to write) why not go to either Bumrumgrad or Samitivej? Both are 5 star Hospitals and Doctors are Graduated of Aussies Universities (for the most part). Why go all the fuck away to Ladphrao?
If you need a full VD check then the small clinic soi 11 would work as well.
[url]http://www.bumrungrad.com/thailandhospital[/url]
[url]http://www.samitivejhospitals.com/Home/en[/url][/QUOTE]And just to add, so there is no surprise, a comprehensive HEalth Check will be in the vicinity of 15k THB so be prepared
Guys, Just a thanks for your thoughts on places to see. It is now between Hua Hin, back to Pattaya or, P. Phen. I think Hua Hin is winning at this time. What everit is I wuill definately write some reports.
No Indians, no blacks policy not exclusive to Thailand:
[url]http://terb.ca/vbulletin/showthread.php?394660-No-blacks-No-Indians[/url]
Has anyone tried securing one of the 20000 baht 1yr education visas? I've read a few articles about this and checked a couple of the Thai language schools offering this but haven't talked with anyone who's tried it. One Schools website mentioned that in addition to the 20K you also have to pay 2K every 3 months to the Thai embassy and 1, 900 to immigration every 3 months, in baht of course. Anyone gone this route? How did it work out?
Dear all,
I am coming to Bangkok soon and looking a place to purchase Sex toys? Is there any place to purchase fleshlight for me ([url]http://www.fleshlight.com/[/url]).
Regards
[QUOTE=Darknightlk; 1313106]Dear all,
I am coming to Bangkok soon and looking a place to purchase Sex toys? Is there any place to purchase fleshlight for me (
[url]http://www.fleshlight.com/[/url]
).
Regards[/QUOTE]What a most strange idea! Buying a fleshlight in Thailand, when you can have the real thing "in the living flesh" at any of the well known hotspots.
You don't need to come to BKK to purchase them. You can do that from your home, but leave them there unless you want them for a lady or two. This is "the living flesh market". Just breath deeply and you will find.
[QUOTE=Mackin;1313208]You don't need to come to BKK to purchase them. You can do that from your home, but leave them there unless you want them for a lady or two. This is "the living flesh market". Just breath deeply and you will find.[/QUOTE]You are correct but he still needs to bring a torch along if he wants to see the light at the end of tunnel (no pun intended)
[QUOTE=Darknightlk; 1313106]I am coming to Bangkok soon and looking a place to purchase Sex toys? Is there any place to purchase fleshlight for me (
[url]http://www.fleshlight.com/[/url]
). Regards[/QUOTE]If you are flying west do a layover in Hong Kong and buy your shit there. Much cheaper since all of it comes from China anyway.
[QUOTE=Satyr23;1312531]Has anyone tried securing one of the 20000 baht 1yr education visas? I've read a few articles about this and checked a couple of the Thai language schools offering this but haven't talked with anyone who's tried it. One Schools website mentioned that in addition to the 20K you also have to pay 2K every 3 months to the Thai embassy and 1, 900 to immigration every 3 months, in baht of course. Anyone gone this route? How did it work out?[/QUOTE]Researching this, I've found some for 12, 000 baht and one school offers the 1 year visa for as little as 9000 baht!
[QUOTE=Satyr23;1312531]Has anyone tried securing one of the 20000 baht 1yr education visas? I've read a few articles about this and checked a couple of the Thai language schools offering this but haven't talked with anyone who's tried it. One Schools website mentioned that in addition to the 20K you also have to pay 2K every 3 months to the Thai embassy and 1, 900 to immigration every 3 months, in baht of course. Anyone gone this route? How did it work out?[/QUOTE]How many hours a week would you have to sit in a classroom?
Would it have A / C?
What about homework?
Satyr, a friend has done it, it costs him 25000, I don't know if he had to pay more every 3 months. But it worked, he could stay here for a year, no problem.
Is there a gym that allows month-by-month payments in BKK? Most try to get your credit card number and charge you for one year. That doesn't work for non permanent residents.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1313508]How many hours a week would you have to sit in a classroom?
Would it have A / C?
What about homework?[/QUOTE]I hope the female teachers give you oral examinations.
So I had a look at some gyms.
True Fitness. 5000 / month without a contract.
Aspire. 5900. Crappiest of the lot and the most expensive.
Fitness First Terminal 21. No short term contracts. 5 months minimum.
And the winner is:
Fitness First Landmark Hotel (4th floor) : 3100 per month when you pay per month. You have to sign a contract and give them your credit card digits but you can cancel at any time.
If you know something better, speak out.
[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1314994]So I had a look at some gyms.
True Fitness. 5000 / month without a contract.
Aspire. 5900. Crappiest of the lot and the most expensive.[/QUOTE]What the fuck. Were they serious when they told you those prices or were they laughing? I don't know gyms in the US that cost that much. At Tony's in Pattaya a lifetime membership is only 24000 and you get to use all their locations.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1315012]What the fuck. Were they serious when they told you those prices or were they laughing? I don't know gyms in the US that cost that much. At Tony's in Pattaya a lifetime membership is only 24000 and you get to use all their locations.[/QUOTE]And Tony's on Walking Street charges just 120 Baht per visit. Which is perfect for fellows like me that are only here for a month or so.
[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1314994]So I had a look at some gyms.
True Fitness. 5000 / month without a contract.
Aspire. 5900. Crappiest of the lot and the most expensive.
Fitness First Terminal 21. No short term contracts. 5 months minimum.
And the winner is:
Fitness First Landmark Hotel (4th floor) : 3100 per month when you pay per month. You have to sign a contract and give them your credit card digits but you can cancel at any time.
If you know something better, speak out.[/QUOTE]Crazy prices. Try calling the Fitness First at Central Plaza Rama 9, the girl quoted me 2K per month with no contract, just month to month. Interestingly enough, when my GF went there to check on prices, they quoted her a higher price, so I don't know where they pull these figures from, I guess out their ass? (BTW- you can use all the Fitness First except for premium branches and I think there's only 1 or 2 of those types)
OTOH, they could be trying to capitalize on members fleeing from the California Wow fiasco.
I am a True Fitness VIP "Black Card" Member and only pay 900 thb per month (ok, it's part of a Contract plan) but as I live in Bangkok, no sweat.
For those who are visiting, pick a hotel or service apartment that has a Gym.
Thanks Tony. I'll check Central Plaza.
What's this krup about a well known Thai visa site with an ad claiming it's a "guarantee" you can get a Retirement Visa to Thailand if you have no money:
"No funds? Over 50? We can secure a Thai retirement visa. Guaranteed"
But follow the link and read a bit more and you find out you also must "have a passport with one year validity".
Yet it still claims you "qualify" if "You can't fulfil the financial requirements".
No mention is made of any other requirements {e. G. Medical, criminal) that I've seen associated with a retirment visa.
Is this crap, kruhp, or what?
[QUOTE=Sammon; 1301697]There are different things going on in a girl's mind when it comes to kissing.
Western romances starts with kissing and proceeds step by step till she lets you into her pants. Even here there are girls who kiss the moment you are together and ends up in sex quickly. Asian girls are culturally not into kissing. Public affectionate kissing is not in their culture. Sex is mainly take your undergarments, stick it in, and once the guy is done it is over. No total naked sex. Kissing and naked sex, DATY etc, they learned from western men. There are married couple who never kissed open mouth.
As for P4P girls young novices do not like to kiss. Mainly because they never experienced it. Once you teach them the pleasure of it they kiss. Especially in the act of sex you kiss them.
Regular brushing is good before and after meals. Listerine is alcohol based. It just masks underlying odor just like cologne or perfume.
Many girls think kissing open mouth causes diseases. Whilte it is true lot safer than BB sex which most girls are open to.
Personally I would not like to kiss P4P girls continuously. That is reserved for regular girlfriends.[/QUOTE]I've also noticed that some who aren't into FK (french kissing) or even LK (lip kissing) prior to genital intercourse will get into it after I am inside of them.
BTW I've been having some better luck with TGs being willing to kiss in general, and prior to intercourse. Still, they seem more willing IME to eat, lick, suck & "kiss my ass".
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1315995]What's this krup about a well known Thai visa site with an ad claiming it's a "guarantee" you can get a Retirement Visa to Thailand if you have no money:
"No funds? Over 50? We can secure a Thai retirement visa. Guaranteed"
But follow the link and read a bit more and you find out you also must "have a passport with one year validity".
Yet it still claims you "qualify" if "You can't fulfil the financial requirements".
No mention is made of any other requirements {e. G. Medical, criminal) that I've seen associated with a retirment visa.
Is this crap, kruhp, or what?[/QUOTE]I'v seen many of these ads, like many ads in Thailand they are stretching the truth. Yes you should have a passport with 1 year validlty, why get a visa if your passport expires in 6 month for example. Financially there are ways to get around it if you don't have the funds I know a few Farangs that pay 30, 000 baht a year? In the black market to get their visa. The 3rd party puts the financial money in your account so you can qualify and once you get the visa they pull it back out all done with a fee?
If you go through the process of obtaining a visa particularly in Pattaya, you don't need the medical or criminal check it is only required if you apply in the States.
LBM
just when one thinks the thais can't do anything right at the airport they surprise you?
for over two years when i arrive at the airport on my flight on eva, which arrives between 11:00 and 12:00 noon the immigration area is packed and unorganized. the last few months i'v had to travel home to the states and my last two arrivals back to thailand, i was surprised as hell when i did my quick walk and got to immigration there was no line. the area has been reorganized and roped off, my wait in june was less than 10 minutes, normally it was 45 minutes to a hour. when i came back a week ago the wait was even less. i waited longer for the officier to process my entry? what was exactly done i'm not sure and i don't care. i just hope it stays that way?
after immigration my priority is to get to pattaya as quick as possible. once through immigration i try to catch the bell bus leaving at 12:00 noon, if i miss that i just go to the taxi stand. the normal cost is a slip for 1500 baht including toll. this time i got a old ass taxi. weak a/c and radio broken, no problem i'm more concern about the quality of the driving. this time things just didn't feel right? by the time we got to the toll booth the guy ask me for money for the toll, no problem, no tip later. thinking stupid f-k and as we clear the second toll booth thereafter i noticed that the guy was getting tired. when a drivers starts to move around their seat it is a sign they are tired and falling alseep along with the speed changes. i finally told the guy if you are tired it's okay to pull over and get something to drink and even rest? he told me mai pen rai. we continue and same thing. finally i told him no joking i can drive for you. he smiled and said again mai pen rai. moments later he nearly drove up behind a big rig. i noticed and slapped him behind his head and told him to pull over and take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] and rest for a moment. while standing outside toll road 7, i got into the driver seat and put it in gear and started to drive off, this certainly got his attention. i smiled and told him mai pen rai and minutes later i was at my destination.
that night decide after my long ordeal in the states, i felt i had enough energy for a few drinks so decided to hit ws at my favorite waterhole. after my first drink jetlag hit me big time and never really appreciated all the tit and ass?
only in thailand? lbm
[quote=littlebigman; 1316638]just when one thinks the thais can't do anything right at the airport they surprise you?
for over two years when i arrive at the airport on my flight on eva, which arrives between 11:00 and 12:00 noon the immigration area is packed and unorganized. the last few months i'v had to travel home to the states and my last two arrivals back to thailand, i was surprised as hell when i did my quick walk and got to immigration there was no line. the area has been reorganized and roped off, my wait in june was less than 10 minutes, normally it was 45 minutes to a hour. when i came back a week ago the wait was even less. i waited longer for the officier to process my entry? what was exactly done i'm not sure and i don't care. i just hope it stays that way?
after immigration my priority is to get to pattaya as quick as possible. once through immigration i try to catch the bell bus leaving at 12:00 noon, if i miss that i just go to the taxi stand. the normal cost is a slip for 1500 baht including toll. this time i got a old ass taxi. weak a / see and radio broken, no problem i'm more concern about the quality of the driving. this time things just didn't feel right? by the time we got to the toll booth the guy ask me for money for the toll, no problem, no tip later. thinking stupid f-k and as we clear the second toll booth thereafter i noticed that the guy was getting tired. when a drivers starts to move around their seat it is a sign they are tired and falling alseep along with the speed changes. i finally told the guy if you are tired it's okay to pull over and get something to drink and even rest? he told me mai pen rai. we continue and same thing. finally i told him no joking i can drive for you. he smiled and said again mai pen rai. moments later he nearly drove up behind a big rig. i noticed and slapped him behind his head and told him to pull over and take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] and rest for a moment. while standing outside toll road 7, i got into the driver seat and put it in gear and started to drive off, this certainly got his attention. i smiled and told him mai pen rai and minutes later i was at my destination.
that night decide after my long ordeal in the states, i felt i had enough energy for a few drinks so decided to hit ws at my favorite waterhole. after my first drink jetlag hit me big time and never really appreciated all the tit and ass?
only in thailand? lbm[/quote]i always arrive around 12:30/13:00 and i saw what you meant by the immigration lines. yes its better organized with even lady who do a kind of precheck and guid you the a booth but. there are also much less passengers. economy is hitting thailand as well.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1316638]Just when one thinks the Thais can't do anything right at the airport they surprise you? (---)Only in Thailand? LBM[/QUOTE]Good to learn that the problems mentioned in here, and surely not because they were reported here, have been addressd. This is what I call wise management, realising that the immigration line is one of the first impact one has with the country.
With regard to the sleepy taxi driver, it happened to me in Shangai too. He started by playing louder music, then window opening trying to get fresh air in, then kind of caressing his face with one. Till he started to slap himself to stay awake, just when we were driving on those flyover roads. Realising he was missing a junction out. He stopped in the middle lane. 5 meters from the ramp. Standing still waiting for a clear moment. I was expecting a big bump in the back at any minute. Finally a van driver realised what was happening and stop on the side lane and let him go. Dreadful experience!
Hi.
Can somebody propose me a GOOD SPA for real spa treatments, I'm aware of all happy ending places, in the morning hours I thought of going for a real Spa.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Wismar; 1316981]Hi.
Can somebody propose me a GOOD SPA for real spa treatments, I'm aware of all happy ending places, in the morning hours I thought of going for a real Spa.
Thanks[/QUOTE]That depends on where you are in the LOS. In Pattaya I can recommend the Cenvaree Spa & Wellness. Very "upmarket" and an ex-GF of mine works there: [url]http://www.spacenvaree.com/spa-cenvaree-at-Nova-Hotel-and-Spa-Pattaya[/url]-Centara-Boutique-Collection. It is such a pity a considerable part of her talents are wasted in such an upstanding establishment. ;)
[QUOTE=Wismar; 1316981]Hi.
Can somebody propose me a GOOD SPA for real spa treatments, I'm aware of all happy ending places, in the morning hours I thought of going for a real Spa.
Thanks[/QUOTE]If you are in BKK: Health Land is great and not too expensive; mixture of tourists, expats and locals.
[url]http://www.cnngo.com/bangkok/play/city-essentials/bangkoks-best-thai-massages-075525[/url]
[QUOTE=Wismar; 1316981]Hi.
Can somebody propose me a GOOD SPA for real spa treatments, I'm aware of all happy ending places, in the morning hours I thought of going for a real Spa.
Thanks[/QUOTE]BKK? King and I Spa Suk / Soi 12.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1317081]BKK? King and I Spa Suk / Soi 12.[/QUOTE]Is this or the other spa mentioned like the ones in Hong Kong. I really miss them. In HK, they are men only. Provide you a common area with all the accessories like tooth brush, shampoo, in the locker room area a large hot pool and a ice pool next to it. The place I use to relax at also provide a guy in a booth that uses a special cloth to scape the dead skin off you and finish you up with a chopping KungFu type massage. Available are also, Sauna and Steam room. When you are done with all that there is a lounge in which you can eat, haircut, etc. Take a nap until you are ready for your massage in which I always choose 2 hours.
The places you mention?
LBM
Yes I like the huge HK spas as well, they are open 24/7 too. Is there anything like that in BKK?
Is this available in Bangkok, as I sometimes suffer from pre-mature ejaculation, or do I need to buy it before I arrive. As I don't want it to spoil my fun in the candy world.
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1317243]Yes I like the huge HK spas as well, they are open 24/7 too. Is there anything like that in BKK?[/QUOTE]Not really, they pertain more to the Chinese culture. This is why you see them in HK, PRC, Taiwan, Macau.
[quote=mad harry;1317556]is this available in bangkok, as i sometimes suffer from pre-mature ejaculation, or do i need to buy it before i arrive. as i don't want it to spoil my fun in the candy world.[/quote]i would not worry about this if you go to places like mango, snow white, tulip, cherry as they offer multiple pops. or, go to annies, get your first pop immediately into the girls mouth to start, then let her massage you a little and get ready for round 2.
if you go to gogo bars and have st, then it may be a quick one. i also heard girls at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] talk about guys that cum within a minute of them starting to blow. now that's pretty damn quick and a waste of 700 thb lol
Was out last night, Playskool, Rainbow, Spankys, Soi 4, Came in this morning around 6.
Playskool saw and drank a couple of drinks with a nice hot girl, Number 38, from Lao looks like a geisha girl from days of old, speaks ok English, about 173 cm tall and a nice set of hooters, for some of the professionals out there that critique reports go have a look and see. For the tourist, take her for a spin, she's needing the support.
Spanky's saw a lez show the girls were just ok, I went cause one of my earlier street meets, danced there. Sadly didn't see her. Rainbow 1, many hot girls.
Walked down to Hillary 1 the exercise was good the selection was not. Went into the new Hillary 4 for about a second, looking for a couple of girls who for lack of a job work there. Happily no money wasted on any drinks.
Stopped in Thearme, on my way up Suk, lots of the same, a few cute ones but the fellows from the Land of the Rising Sun were fishing like it was a carnival, Spoke at length with a few, good blokes liking their assignment here while it lasts.
Ended up having drinks and playing guitar and harmonica over on Soi 19 on the street with some local fellows on the way home from a gig.
Usually am able to pick up dancers and such on their way home, no such luck last night, Maybe tonight?
[quote=nicfrenchy; 1317724]i would not worry about this if you go to places like mango, snow white, tulip, cherry as they offer multiple pops. or, go to annies, get your first pop immediately into the girls mouth to start, then let her massage you a little and get ready for round 2.
if you go to gogo bars and have st, then it may be a quick one. i also heard girls at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] talk about guys that cum within a minute of them starting to blow. now that's pretty damn quick and a waste of 700 thb lol[/quote]i find 2 pops diffcult to do even with the blue / cream pills, hence trying to find out if it is possiable to buy priligy (dapoxetine) 60mg
over the counter in bkk. anyone around can ask the pharmisit if they have these aviable.
[QUOTE=Mad Harry; 1317852]I find 2 pops diffcult to do even with the blue / cream pills, hence trying to find out if it is possiable to buy Priligy (Dapoxetine) 60mg
Over the counter in BKK. Anyone around can ask the pharmisit if they have these aviable.[/QUOTE]Here is a exercise for you to do will save you money? Get your stick rock hard with some cream and stroke that bad boy! When you are ready to cum squeeze the base of your large membrane and prevent your ejaculation until it goes limp. Take a rest and repeat the process again and again. After a few days of this process you should be ready to pull the trigger when your ready?
Good Luck, Basic sex education 101, LBM
Saw this in the BKK Times today:
[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] suspect's assets seized.
The Anti-Money Laundering Office's board has ordered the seizure of about 320 million baht worth of assets of a Songkhla province woman suspected of pimping and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url].
Pol Capt Suwanee Sawaengpol, deputy secretary-general of the Anti-Money Laundering Office (Amlo) , said the temporary asset seizure covers money in bank accounts, two land plots in Sungai Kolok district of Narathiwat province and an apartment building in Songkhla _ all owned by Pranom Praekhoksung. 58.
The action follows a complaint from the Laos embassy in Thailand that two Lao girls aged 15 were lured into forced prostitution in Thailand.
The complaint prompted police to raid Charlie 259 karaoke shop and Charlie Spa House in Sadao district of Songkhla in July last year. They rescued 46 women and 24 girls aged under 18 who were reportedly forced into prostitution there.
Mrs Pranom, who operated the karaoke shop and spa, has denied the charges. Amlo is trying to determine if Mrs Pranom transferred any assets to other individuals. She has been charged with providing prostitution services and committing transnational crimes because the victims include Lao women.
[url]http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/crimes/308570/[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord909][CodeWord909][/url]-suspect-assets-seized[/url]
[QUOTE=Canonade; 1318007]Hi Again,
I made a post yesterday about trying to get some help in developing an itinerary for a two week holiday. I am hoping the post does not get lost amid all the others that were made. I am coming to Thailand for tourist things, as well as for the entertainment, but would like some idea on what cities would be recommended for me to see during a two week period. Thanks.
If this appears twice I apologize as it did not appear to go through the first time I hit the send button.[/QUOTE]Bangkok and Pattaya to start with.
Be more specific tell us when and what you are looking for in order to guide you better.
That's how this forum works. And remember we are not travel agents or pimps.
[QUOTE=Canonade; 1317794]Hello,
If going to Thailand for a 2 week holiday for tourist things, as well as for the entertainment, what would be the best timeline for me if I want to see several different areas / cities, and what areas / cities would you recommend in this length of time period?
Thank you![/QUOTE]Assuming your will arrive in Bangkok, take 3 or 4 days there. There are lots of things to see and do (during the daytime). The Grand Palace and Temple of the Emerald Buddha; Wat Pho (Temple of the Reclining Buddha and Thai Massage School) ; Wat Arun (Temple of the Dawn) ; Chatuchak (Weekend market) ; Chinatown; Jim Thomson House; Bangkok National Museum; and I have already listed more than you can see in 3 or 4 days.
Make a day-trip to Ayutthaya, the former capital of Siam, by train (an adventure by itself).
Two or 3 days to visit the River Kwai in Kanchanaburi and see the famous bridge and the Death Railway. Warning: not much "night time entertainment" there.
Finally, take the bus back to Bangkok and take a bus to Pattaya for the balance of your trip. Your stay in Kanchanaburi will have restored your stock of bodily fluids and you can start your Pattaya adventure well rested.
In or near Pattaya you can see the Floating Market; Nong Nooch Garden; Mini Siam; Sanctuary of Truth;"Ripley's believe it or not" experience; make a trip to the islands; spend some time on the beach at Jomtien; the famous Ladyboy show at Alcazar;"Flight of the Gibbon" zip-line adventure in the jungle; ...
If you manage all of the above and enjoy yourself with the local wildlife, then you are a superman!
One warning: never believe any "official" looking person who tells you that any of the above tourist sites is closed and offers you to arrange some other visits by a handy tuk-tuk which --oh the co-incidence!-- happens to pass by. These ALWAYS involve visits to numerous taylors, jewellery or other tourist trap places and you will not be released until you have spend too much money for things you do not need.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1318660]Awww, come on guys! Give the newbee a break.At the very least I got some good karma out of it, which of course will make me more popular with the Thai ladies, won't it?[/QUOTE]WV, not as much as in the Indian forums, but the are repeated silly questions and they often get the RTFF hint. I would say there is one every second page at least. RTFF for a few pages will also get the people the feeling what ISG is all about. One should quickly get it if only RTFF.
But seems to me they only read the title International Sex Guide. And then at the best they search for the town (not even for the thread, look at the PG floods like "where can I buy Viagra?" etc.
It is a matter of netiquette and general politeness, nothing else, it is not as they are newbies. These guys are sort of parassites. And posting the same question 3 times in a few hours shows these are not the guys much needed here to refresh the community (new entries are always welcome to bring new experiences, opinions, POV (pun intended) , feedbacks). These guys will reach a maximum of 10 posts (rubber printed ones) and then leave as they could not get what they are looking for. Do we really need them?
[QUOTE=Vielendank;1318485]Why don't you learn how to write a coherent sentence you illiterate *****.[/QUOTE]Who are you the fucking Forum Police? There is no need to go insulting people for their Lack of English vocabulary.
[QUOTE=Vielendank;1318485]Why don't you learn how to write a coherent sentence you illiterate *****.[/QUOTE]
Oh Really!
Probably better if you stayed home. Too many foreigners here for your liking.
[QUOTE=Monte3;1318690]One guy a few months ago asked for some airport location, I told him the area, and the guy then asked for the exact Soi, WTF He never even bothered to post a report.[/QUOTE]It is your fault if he hasn't done a report yet. He is still wandering around looking for the right Soi.
[QUOTE=Vielendank;1318485]Why don't you learn how to write a coherent sentence you illiterate *****.[/QUOTE]Just a reminder!
Forum Rules and Guidelines: Not Considered! Spelling and Grammar! Same rule that applies for Forum, Phillipines, Cambodia!
LBM
I know I have my moments but this VIELENDANK is a piece of work.
Also, he recently sent me a PM calling out me and others in this forum as a bunch of Fa**ots!
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1318759]I know I have my moments but this VIELENDANK is a piece of work.
Also, he recently sent me a PM calling out me and others in this forum as a bunch of Fa*ots![/QUOTE]You mentioned his name, but I didn't. As same he sent PM to me using nasty words. M wondering what is the connection of him with the newbie Canonade.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1318759]I know I have my moments but this VIELENDANK is a piece of work.Also, he recently sent me a PM calling out me and others in this forum as a bunch of Fa**ots![/QUOTE]It seems his psot disappear, nothing bad in this and means mdoerators might be at work, unless he voluntarily delete it. We do not need these sueless drama, not fully useless, though as they show the attitude of some people.
[QUOTE=Mua Tur;1318761]U mentioned his name, but I didn't. As same he sent PM to me using nasty words. M wondering what is the connection of him with the newbie Canonade.[/QUOTE]Having some fun with Canonade in the Philippines board. Guy (if he is one?) is a troll as well, VD (an appropriate abbreviation?) was the same. A useless troll with a bad mouth and attitude.
Sometimes people just get their rocks off annoying people as they can't get their rocks off any other way and likely are one handed typist. Where are the smileys when you need them LOL
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1318521]You did get a nice response.
But this is a sex forum. You said nothing about wanting to bang some pussy.
Just tourist stuff and entertainment?
So you want to go to Temples and the movie? Maybe go to Yahoo Travel for the answer.
Be more specific because each place really offers something different.[/QUOTE]can't figure out why you are so nice and helpful to someone yet to pay a sub to the board and asking tourist questions. As you said LP this is a monger fourm so he can ask a travel agent etc for his stuff. And am sure he won't arrive and even if he did won't post a FR.
He hasasked the same inane stuff in the Philippines thread but we replied less poiltely there and he got very upset (especially with me). LOL
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1318773]Having some fun with Canonade in the Philippines board. Guy (if he is one?) is a troll as well, VD (an appropriate abbreviation?) was the same. A useless troll with a bad mouth and attitude.
Sometimes people just get their rocks off annoying people as they can't get their rocks off any other way and likely are one handed typist. Where are the smileys when you need them LOL[/QUOTE]Soon schools will re-open in different parts of the world and the kids will be busy elsewhere.
It has only to do with the timeline in posting. Sometimes I get my postings posted right away as in the photogallery in Bangkokthread. Then it looks quite darn stupid when my FR is not posted yet and everything is coming in wrong order. Is it just a hickup sometime that makes some posts go right through or can pics be developed in different time line as for reviewing from moderators / administrators.
I have posted quite a lot now and sometimes I write FR`s and add photoes in photo gallery. But when photoes comes first refering to one post in FR not to be seen then I look like a stupid asshole don't I? Is this just occantional trouble or any other fellow members exp same action? No big trouble but I am a guy liking to have everything correct so people don't blame me. Hehe
[QUOTE=Skogis;1320183]It has only to do with the timeline in posting. Sometimes I get my postings posted right away as in the photogallery in Bangkokthread. Then it looks quite darn stupid when my FR is not posted yet and everything is coming in wrong order. Is it just a hickup sometime that makes some posts go right through or can pics be developed in different time line as for reviewing from moderators / administrators.[/QUOTE]Why don't you put your pics along with the reports you posting in any thread!
Jackson have no problem with that.
I saw a report that the airport is renovating & getting rid of immigration so travellers should get to the airport early as this could lead to delays.
Referring to international flights at So You want to Boom.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1320476]I saw a report that the airport is renovating & getting rid of immigration so travellers should get to the airport early as this could lead to delays.
Referring to international flights at So You want to Boom.[/QUOTE]What do you mean by "getting rid of immigration"?
[QUOTE=Skogis; 1320183]It has only to do with the timeline in posting. Sometimes I get my postings posted right away as in the photogallery in Bangkokthread. Then it looks quite darn stupid when my FR is not posted yet and everything is coming in wrong order. Is it just a hickup sometime that makes some posts go right through or can pics be developed in different time line as for reviewing from moderators / administrators.
I have posted quite a lot now and sometimes I write FR`s and add photoes in photo gallery. But when photoes comes first refering to one post in FR not to be seen then I look like a stupid asshole don't I? Is this just occantional trouble or any other fellow members exp same action? No big trouble but I am a guy liking to have everything correct so people don't blame me. Hehe[/QUOTE]I also experienced posting delays recently. But I've never uploaded photos.
For instance, I sent a report say at 12:00. Before my own post other messages were published sent for example at 13:00. My post appeared later, eg at 15:00, without being the last one, by respecting this way the posting order and not the approval / publication order.
Fair enough since, I believe, the mod scrutinizes more carefully regular member posting. Only drawback is that some messages if published later are out of context, for example a reply has already been given or the discussion has evolved etc etc.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1320753]What do you mean by "getting rid of immigration"?[/QUOTE]I was just relating what I thought I read on a major airlines website recently.
Not sure what they mean. The gist of it was to get their early.
The other day I passed through security & getting my passport stamped very quickly, like 5 minutes, although there was like an hour wait to get my boarding pass.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1320753]What do you mean by "getting rid of immigration"?[/QUOTE]What I have read is that they are starting a system for the Thai passports that will computerize them. That should allow more agents for the non residents. But, if it is like most other automation, it will just allow them to cut labor.
I responded to a member's query about hospitals in Bangkok and wanted to bring up my experience with Bangkok Christian.
I was very enthusiastic about this place. I met my dentist through my hiso GF (she and I met at a US University). This is where her entire family went so I felt comfortable here.
The trouble began when I had an implant. Within 3 years it became loose and broke at the post. This was supposed to be a titanium post and (without sending for analysis) my US orthodontist thinks it's a copy with a less stronger metal.
The second was a root canal that had a small gap left the base. I not only had got an infection, but when my US dentist opened it up found cotton that had been left in there. He also found the supporting "posts" looked like cut up paper clips and weren't supporting the tooth at all.
The cost for revising the botched root canal was 2000. 00. When I get my implant redone I'll incur additional cost and healing time to extract the post stump from my jaw.
I've called the hospital and any complaints fall on deaf ears. I've sent copies of the xrays etc. Not that a US dentist would've done differently but it's discouraging.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1320476]I saw a report that the airport is renovating & getting rid of immigration so travellers should get to the airport early as this could lead to delays.
Referring to international flights at So You want to Boom.[/QUOTE]Must be a misprint or something? I have been in and out of the airport the last month or so. Going out they are doing construction on the Immigration area to remodel. That means they have section boarded up which shortens the original area. Because of the construction they have a much smaller area with about 4 booths of two officiers but rarely are all the booth open. Which as one can figure out causes delays depending when your flight departs. I left once at 1530 and it wasn't too bad not much of a wait and a few weeks ago I left at 12:30pm and the line was much longer. As always I was hours early and checked in as soon as the counter open and it took me around.
30 minutes to get through.
Coming back they have roped off the Immigration area and both time in the last month I couldn't believe it arriving on Eva just before Noon, usually I wait 45 to 1 hours both times less that 5 minutes. People say less people but looking at my flight both times hard to believe it was full. And prior to buying my ticket. Flights on all airlines from HK / TPE are all full? So I'm not sure what happen but I'm going to enjoy it while it last?
Hope that was of some help? LBM
[QUOTE=Growtek; 1321524]I responded to a member's query about hospitals in Bangkok and wanted to bring up my experience with Bangkok Christian.
I was very enthusiastic about this place. I met my dentist through my hiso GF (she and I met at a US University). This is where her entire family went so I felt comfortable here.
The trouble began when I had an implant. Within 3 years it became loose and broke at the post. This was supposed to be a titanium post and (without sending for analysis) my US orthodontist thinks it's a copy with a less stronger metal.
The second was a root canal that had a small gap left the base. I not only had got an infection, but when my US dentist opened it up found cotton that had been left in there. He also found the supporting "posts" looked like cut up paper clips and weren't supporting the tooth at all.
The cost for revising the botched root canal was 2000. 00. When I get my implant redone I'll incur additional cost and healing time to extract the post stump from my jaw.
I've called the hospital and any complaints fall on deaf ears. I've sent copies of the xrays etc. Not that a US dentist would've done differently but it's discouraging.[/QUOTE]Calling and getting deaf ears is exactly what you would get even if you were there personally! If you were returning you might have had the doctor put everything into a plastic vaccum bag and a doctor letter as to what they found. The bring it to the hospital and ask for the adminitrator of the hospital and try to get a refund if not you will present your story to the Bangkok Post and other local Expat papers along with placing your story on the Internet. Which you could do now and forward the story to the Adminatrator of the hospital.
Welcome to the overhype of medical services in Thailand! LBM
[blue]Greetings Everyone,
I recently cleaned up this thread by deleting a number of off-topic and otherwise pointless posts, as well as a number responses made by other forum members to these deleted posts.
This cleanup process is not perfect, and it's possible that I may have inadvertently deleted a few otherwise legitimate posts. If you find that your own report was also deleted, please don't take it personally.
For the record, the ISG is a travel forum, and thus members are permitted to ask questions and otherwise start conversations on all aspects of traveling. Members are specifically not limited to asking questions and otherwise starting conversations about sexually-related issues only.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
Emirates: BKK - HKG
[url]http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh3K18a8N00hdxNX4M[/url]
Thais top the infidelity charts.
"Thai men are ranked on top and their women are ranked second as the world's most unfaithul lovers, with well over half of them admitting to frequent infidelity, according to a survey conducted by Durex, a condom producer."
[url]http://www.bangkokpost.com/breakingnews/309732/thai-women-ranks-no-2-in-infidelity[/url]
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1322118]Thais top the infidelity charts.
"Thai men are ranked on top and their women are ranked second as the world's most unfaithul lovers, with well over half of them admitting to frequent infidelity, according to a survey conducted by Durex, a condom producer."
[url]http://www.bangkokpost.com/breakingnews/309732/thai-women-ranks-no-2-in-infidelity[/url][/QUOTE]HAHA.
I bet it is much higher. Especially for the women. Funny that Durex put out the study since most Thai's never wear a condom and the girls don't care.
thai mp urges thai women: marry a farang for an easier life.
[url]http://www.coconutsbangkok.com/random/mp-urges-thai-women-marry-a-farang-for-an-easier-life/[/url]
sunai tells the audience of around 1, 000 red shirts to find a farang husband for an easy life 'because european governments give you everything for free. '
sunai went on: 'get a german husband. get a swedish husband. get a norwegian husband. people used to love [thailand] unreservedly. but the more they loved the country, the poorer they got. the more they loved the country, the stupider they got. '
'all you need is a farang husband and their government will pay you to study, ' he said.
'sitting studying is too slow. lie down to study, then go to the hospital. they will pay you to have the baby. it's all free, right up to the shitty [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131][CodeWord131][/url]. '
"The rapid growth of our cities is leading to overcrowding, urban decay and poor sanitation, allowing more disease-carrying mosquitoes to live closer to more people, with predictable results. It has become impossible to avoid them.
"Dengue is not confined to rural areas. It is becoming a nasty problem in Bangkok as well as resort areas in the South, and is not a disease to be taken lightly. Apart from the cost in human misery, damage to the economy has been put at an annual 1. 6 billion baht. It is time the region came together as a whole and tackled this health menace head-on."
[url]http://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opinion/311536/deadly-dengue-threat-must-not-be-taken-lightly[/url]
[quote=pinkpearl; 1323248]thai mp urges thai women: marry a farang for an easier life.
[url]http://www.coconutsbangkok.com/random/mp-urges-thai-women-marry-a-farang-for-an-easier-life/[/url]
sunai tells the audience of around 1, 000 red shirts to find a farang husband for an easy life 'because european governments give you everything for free. '
sunai went on: 'get a german husband. get a swedish husband. get a norwegian husband. people used to love [thailand] unreservedly. but the more they loved the country, the poorer they got. the more they loved the country, the stupider they got. '
'all you need is a farang husband and their government will pay you to study, ' he said.
'sitting studying is too slow. lie down to study, then go to the hospital. they will pay you to have the baby. it's all free, right up to the shitty [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131][CodeWord131][/url]. '[/quote]when i first read this story a week or so back he got lots of backlash from his own people but i felt the guy for whatever reason said it should have been given a medal! he spoke the gods truth about his own people! i thought this part was only me thinking it now i know i'm not alone in my thoughts " the more they loved the country, the poorer they got, the more they loved the country, the stupider they got "
regarding dengue, its not just in bangkok, the government has been hiding the fact there is nearly a outbreak and certainly a increase especially here in pattaya. earlier in the year they had already reported hundreds of cases in chon buri alone like everything else they keep it quiet for the tourist! everywhere you go especially on the darkside there is spraying and standing water everywhere.
lbm
[quote=pinkpearl; 1323248]thai mp urges thai women: marry a farang for an easier life.
[url]http://www.coconutsbangkok.com/random/mp-urges-thai-women-marry-a-farang-for-an-easier-life/[/url]
sunai tells the audience of around 1, 000 red shirts to find a farang husband for an easy life 'because european governments give you everything for free. '
sunai went on: 'get a german husband. get a swedish husband. get a norwegian husband. people used to love [thailand] unreservedly. but the more they loved the country, the poorer they got. the more they loved the country, the stupider they got. '
'all you need is a farang husband and their government will pay you to study, ' he said.
'sitting studying is too slow. lie down to study, then go to the hospital. they will pay you to have the baby. it's all free, right up to the shitty [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131][CodeWord131][/url]. '[/quote]a few notable comments from posters on thaivisa about the same article:
"makes me cringe when people refer to the health systems, education, welfare etc in european countries being "free" its because most people work hard and pay there high taxes!"
"education and maternity services are free in thailand. and he didn't know."
"as if thai women need an mp to tell them something they already know and many do. jeez"
"marry? why? what's wrong with the current sick buffalo savings plan?"
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1322118]Thais top the infidelity charts.
"Thai men are ranked on top and their women are ranked second as the world's most unfaithul lovers, with well over half of them admitting to frequent infidelity, according to a survey conducted by Durex, a condom producer."
[url]http://www.bangkokpost.com/breakingnews/309732/thai-women-ranks-no-2-in-infidelity[/url][/QUOTE]Maybe Thai people are more honest than others?
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1325598]Maybe Thai people are more honest than others?[/QUOTE]I doubt that.
Maybe they have fewer gadgets to occupy them & more time for thinking about & doing sex?
And maybe they don't have the same religious hangups about sex as Protestants & Catholics?
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1325553]A few notable comments from posters on thaivisa about the same article:
"Makes me cringe when people refer to the health systems, education, welfare etc in European countries being "free" its because most people work hard and pay there high taxes!"
"Education and maternity services ARE free in Thailand. And he didn't know."
"As if Thai women need an MP to tell them something they already know and many do. Jeez"
"Marry? Why? What's wrong with the current sick buffalo savings plan?"[/QUOTE]Mr. E,
I think this guy was making a reference in general. Free eduacation and maternity is pretty much free but if you have been ever use or been at Banglamung Hospital emergency room as a Farang you see what free is all about. A few years back my brother sister-law a baby machine water brought we took her to Banglamung she was laying in the corner on a bed with blood all over her cover like she was having it right there in the hallway. My brother felt so bad that he ask what would it cost to get her a room and some attention? 600 baht? And off she went.
Schools, Free yes mostly except for the uniforms but majority or just babysitting institutions. They pay lots of attention to show boating like they are doing somthing? For those of us who live here would know exactly what this means? A good example for over a year they have been show boating that they will address and put a end to the Jetski scams will guess what they are still showboating? I know first hand a kid that graduated from a school in Chiang Mai number one in his class, he can't even add give me the answer to 6x9 without using a calculator?
Free is not always good and I think this guy knows it?
As for the buffalo? My dad use to tell me " why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free "
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1325598]Maybe Thai people are more honest than others?[/QUOTE]One kind of hope that it is the case but with Thais, there are two levels, small little white lies don't count as lies? They take it that what you don't know won't hurt you so they tell you a white lie? A white lie is they turn their phone off because they are doing something they shouldn't be doing and when you ask the white lie is " oh no battery"?
Thai women like all get horny too and in a country where Thai men are allow more than one women. Like all relationships as time goes by one get less and less and Thai men are always on the look out like a wild soi dog roaming while the women is home alone? So if there is anything such as free pussy pay a little attention to them and if given a chance give them a shoulder to cry on and Bang? You might be allow to enter the gate?
LOL / LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1325718]Mr. E,
I know first hand a kid that graduated from a school in Chiang Mai number one in his class, he can't even add give me the answer to 6x9 without using a calculator?
"[/QUOTE]At first I thought no way can this be! Then I asked my GF, who is college educated and has a decent job, to answer 9x8 and she could not immediately come up with the answer. I'm not sure if its because their math program in school was inadequate or she's stupid. Probably the latter because she's with me LOL
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1325718]...I know first hand a kid that graduated from a school in Chiang Mai number one in his class, he can't even add give me the answer to 6x9 without using a calculator?...[/QUOTE]In the Phils it is the rule that when you buy something for 99 and pay with a 100 bill they use one to do the maths. Many university grads there.
[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1326175]In the Phils it is the rule that when you buy something for 99 and pay with a 100 bill they use one to do the maths. Many university grads there.[/QUOTE]There are those who claim that the 'tables' are irrelevant! Many years in pubs I have always marvelled at the apparently 'uneducated' who can run down their darts' scores with total accuracy. And work out their pay packets when on piece work to the nearest penny. Perhaps that is the maths that matter!
I have been reading reports of the hotels and motels in Bangkok are giving info to the Thai government on how many ladies a visitor to their country has invited to his room. Is this info also going to the visitors home embassy. When you go though immigration and they swipe your passport and report comes up that you are a sex tourist.
Are any of you guys worried about your name or country being posted on the Internet.
Third trip coming up but I have not had a st / lt in my room. Am I being over cautious.
Hornyone.
[QUOTE=Horndog 3;1326366]I have been reading reports of the hotels and motels in Bangkok are giving info to the Thai government on how many ladies a visitor to their country has invited to his room.[/QUOTE]Can you quote the source or give a link to these reports?
[QUOTE=Horndog 3;1326366]Is this info also going to the visitors home embassy. When you go though immigration and they swipe your passport and report comes up that you are a sex tourist.[/QUOTE]So what if they do and what if immigration get such a report? Do you really think Thailand will kill this part of their economy? Inviting women in to your hotel room (be them prostitutes or girlfriends) is not illegal in Thailand.
[QUOTE=Horndog 3;1326366]Are any of you guys worried about your name or country being posted on the Internet.[/QUOTE]Not worried at all. Where will they post it? [url]www.Thailands-top-mongerers.th?[/url]
[QUOTE=Horndog 3;1326366]Third trip coming up but I have not had a st / lt in my room. Am I being over cautious.[/QUOTE]Yes. If you are afraid of such things, better stay at home.
[QUOTE=Horndog 3; 1326366]I have been reading reports of the hotels and motels in Bangkok are giving info to the Thai government on how many ladies a visitor to their country has invited to his room. Is this info also going to the visitors home embassy. When you go though immigration and they swipe your passport and report comes up that you are a sex tourist.
Are any of you guys worried about your name or country being posted on the Internet.[/QUOTE]Would you like to buy a bridge? I'll make a discount only for you.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1326368]Can you quote the source or give a link to these reports?
So what if they do and what if immigration get such a report? Do you really think Thailand will kill this part of their economy? Inviting women in to your hotel room (be them prostitutes or girlfriends) is not illegal in Thailand.[/QUOTE]I have two bridges for sale. With discount.
Can't you just imagine the organisation required even to work out how such a scheme might work? Covering all the hotels in Pattaya would take a year to even set up the scheme.
And for Baht 50 reception and or the night guard would willingly say "I saw no guest let alone a WG with him.
[QUOTE=Scorchin1470;1326396]Can't you just imagine the organisation required even to work out how such a scheme might work? Covering all the hotels in Pattaya would take a year to even set up the scheme.[/QUOTE]It is perfectly do-able. France has kept (and as far as I am aware still keeps) tabs on all foreign hotel guests for decades, even before computers were invented. Those (in) famous "fiches de police" were nightly collected by the local police and kept for ready retrieval in case a certain foreigner needed to be questioned by the authorities.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1326449]It is perfectly do-able. France has kept (and as far as I am aware still keeps) tabs on all foreign hotel guests for decades, even before computers were invented. Those (in) famous "fiches de police" were nightly collected by the local police and kept for ready retrieval in case a certain foreigner needed to be questioned by the authorities.[/QUOTE]Maybe in France, maybe with an established bureaucracy, maybe with a relatively honest police, maybe with the intention of tracking criminals rather than mongerers. But not in Thailand.
I have just found the Empire State Building is for sale. Bids please.
Hey, I would like to thank you guys for the comments and remarks. I will enjoy my trip with or with out a girl in my room. From rtff there are a lot of places to have fun.
[QUOTE=Scorchin1470; 1326553]Maybe in France, maybe with an established bureaucracy, maybe with a relatively honest police, maybe with the intention of tracking criminals rather than mongerers. But not in Thailand.
I have just found the Empire State Building is for sale. Bids please.[/QUOTE]Since a couple of years ago all Hotels (I believe, even non-hotels, i.e., your gf / wife / etc.) are required to report to immigration every day any foreigners staying there.
[QUOTE=Scorchin1470; 1326553]Maybe in France, maybe with an established bureaucracy, maybe with a relatively honest police, maybe with the intention of tracking criminals rather than mongerers. But not in Thailand.
I have just found the Empire State Building is for sale. Bids please.[/QUOTE]I am sure they are not doing it in Thailand, but it could be done. There is just no good reason for it as it serves no purpose.
PS: Do you want to swap the Empire State Building for the Golden Gate Bridge? If you say "yes" quickly, I'll add Alcatraz as a bonus.
[QUOTE=Werqweq;1326712]Since a couple of years ago all Hotels (I believe, even non-hotels, i.e., your gf / wife / etc.) are required to report to immigration every day any foreigners staying there.[/QUOTE]Sure, and on the back of the form they have to mention how many times you came and in what position.
They definitely record your info, when I've extended stays I've had to go through the pain of filling out the officially registration and have my passport scanned again and again, though most likely it's only handed over to authorities when required.
That said, I heard two things from multiple Thai girls during my last few trips that simply sound absurd. I'm wondering if any long timers can confirm or dispel.
#1. It costs $200, 000 to open a bear bar in Pattaya, with all the associated rent, fees, permits, bribes and memberships required.
#2. Every single business in Thailand must pay a regular bribe to the police, a la Mafia shake downs of small businesses in NYC decades back. I was told by a few girls that everyone, from street food carts and handicrafts to market stalls to serious businesses like real estate offices and automobile sellers must pay these bribes. I know Thai police like many of their brothers around the world are corrupt to the bone, but is this for real?
Sorry if I sound naive, but I heard similar things from so many girls who didn't know each other, I got to wonder just how real this is.
[QUOTE=Rick Rock; 1327045]That said, I heard two things from multiple Thai girls during my last few trips that simply sound absurd. I'm wondering if any long timers can confirm or dispel.
#1. It costs $200, 000 to open a bear bar in Pattaya, with all the associated rent, fees, permits, bribes and memberships required.[/QUOTE]I don't know, but the last thing Pattaya needs is another beer bar, restaurant, or massage shop. The place is already over-saturated with those things. But I guess some people have big dreams because I am sure there will be another one opening soon on a corner near you.
[QUOTE=Horndog 3;1326366]I have been reading reports of the hotels and motels in Bangkok are giving info to the Thai government on how many ladies a visitor to their country has invited to his room. Is this info also going to the visitors home embassy. When you go though immigration and they swipe your passport and report comes up that you are a sex tourist.[/QUOTE]They already know I'm a sex tourist. When returning to Canada they ask what I was doing in Thailand & I tell them I enjoy the company of young nude Thai women at the gogos, MPs & working on the street. They appreciate you being upfront, honest & to the point, & wave you through w / o having to be interogated.
One time they interogated me they found a list of TGs names with phone numbers, prices, what services they do, if they were worth a repeat, etc. They photocopied it and kept asking what it was about. I kept saying it was personal info.
Prostitution, BTW, is not illegal in Canada. And for all intents & purposes, neither is it in LOS. Though if you were, say, an American citizen returning to the USA, you might have a problem if they discovered what you were doing in LOS, I don't know.
R. R.
Just my 2 cents from my own experience. The remarks are a very simple generalization regarding the comments. If you are able to break them down through the language barrier it isn't exactly true?
In Pattaya, police in one district doesn't have much influence on another for example the district station on Soi 9, doesn't have a say as to what Banglamung does or what to do.
Regarding the beer bar in Pattaya, like Mr. E. Said why would a sane Farang want to open up another beer bar except to show off why he can or he just have money to blow. Some do think that they have the extra money do to the exchange rate until month after month they run in the negative. Yea it sounds right that a simple beer bar might cost 200, 000 to open? Usually you have the rent and then there is the KEY MONEY, the previlege to rent the space or building that is due each year and non-refundable. Take a space on Soi 6, on one of these typical buildings. Rent average 20, 000 baht up for a two level building and then the key money which start around 45, 000 baht up? Then you start to renovate and hired staff you should get the picture? On the Darkside, it is much cheaper to open and each day I see them open and I see them close. I make a bet with myself as to how long it will open and if a sign goes up for sale you got to be the biggest sucker to buy one or you got money to blow.
As for the police they are the same as the mafia dressed in brown. Beer bars aren't consider a legit business regardless of any requirement to get a liquor license etc. You see them come in street clothes, mamasan goes to talk, they walk around and they get their money? Those liquor carts with the big jars selling moonshine, pool halls have to pay a little tea money. Two boys in brown on a motorbike or at night a pickup truck with a bunch of cops in the back doing rounds in your neighborhood or hotel get a little tea money. A local mini-mart or hair salon doesn't pay tea money unless there is rumor they are doing something other than that. These BIB will nickle and dime you even for a local mini-mart, they will come in street clothes and ask to buy a single smoke which is illegal and bust you if you don't pay the small tea money. Not every business pays tea money that is a simple generalization by Thais but at the same time depending on the business there are other ways to get them to pay?
A recent survey in the Bangkok post with politicians concluded that Thais feel corruption is okay since it exist throughout the world along with white lies like lying about the economy to make everyone feel better? In Thailand the above is their way? Another article 2 years ago showed that the government estimates that they are loosing 200 billion a year due to corruption. The reason they call Thailand LOS is because behind the smile basically they are asking for tea money?
To end, nothing personal but you do sound naive?
LBM
[QUOTE=Rick Rock; 1327045]prs must pay these bribes. I know Thai police like many of their brothers around the world are corrupt to the bone, but is this for real?
Sorry if I sound naive, but I heard similar things from so many girls who didn't know each other, I got to wonder just how real this is.[/QUOTE]Very real. Just the way things are done here.
No one in his right mind invests into anything in those alike countries that he can't put into his mouth or stick his dick in right away.
[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1327188]No one in his right mind invests into anything in those alike countries that he can't put into his mouth or stick his dick in right away.[/QUOTE]We might all be blowing smoke up Rocks ass? Maybe a actually owner like Dr. BJ might be able to answer this guys questions?
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1327197]We might all be blowing smoke up Rocks ass? Maybe a actually owner like Dr. BJ might be able to answer this guys questions?
LBM[/QUOTE]There are always exceptions to any rule and I believe and hope DrBJ knows what he is doing.
But he seems well connected and has been around for years if not decades.
[QUOTE=Tiger 888; 1327216]There are always exceptions to any rule and I believe and hope DrBJ knows what he is doing.
But he seems well connected and has been around for years if not decades.[/QUOTE]I might be wrong and as you said there are always exceptions to any rule but I believe his connections is throught Annies and even if not DrBJ, whether he knows what he is doing or connected he is in the end a Farang and as one he will hit a wall sooner or later even if he keeps within his element. They have no loyality except for the green back or Baht.
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1327241]I might be wrong and as you said there are always exceptions to any rule but I believe his connections is throught Annies and even if not DrBJ, whether he knows what he is doing or connected he is in the end a Farang and as one he will hit a wall sooner or later even if he keeps within his element. They have no loyality except for the green back or Baht.
LBM[/QUOTE]Well, I was trying to give him the chance of doubt. I an in my shoes and will not drop my money in Thailand or a country alike.
Of course I would never consider putting any money into a beer bar in Pattaya. I was just curious if this estimate was right. Seems like a hell of a lot of money for what is at best a rationale for a visa and at worst a huge money pit. Also seems bizarre that a food stall selling a grand total of $20 worth of food a day would face a shake down.
[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1327322]Of course I would never consider putting any money into a beer bar in Pattaya. I was just curious if this estimate was right. Seems like a hell of a lot of money for what is at best a rationale for a visa and at worst a huge money pit. Also seems bizarre that a food stall selling a grand total of $20 worth of food a day would face a shake down.[/QUOTE]200, 000 [b]baht[/b] seems more like it for a beer-bar. And a food stall will probably give some free food to the neighbourhood police.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1327336]200, 000 [b]baht[/b] seems more like it for a beer-bar. And a food stall will probably give some free food to the neighbourhood police.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't even give them a grain of rice, which is why I would never invest in any country like that. But the number I was hearing, again from more than one girl, was 6, 000, 000 baht, which is around $200, 000 USD. That just sounds insane, even more than opening a beer bar to begin with.
[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1327366]I wouldn't even give them a grain of rice, which is why I would never invest in any country like that. But the number I was hearing, again from more than one girl, was 6, 000, 000 baht, which is around $200, 000 USD. That just sounds insane, even more than opening a beer bar to begin with.[/QUOTE]okay my mistake I was under the assumption you were referring to 200, 000 baht but if you are talking 200, 000 USD, that is totally insane and the people you are talking certainly must be a langauge problem between you and them. Looking back on the post I will stop because the topic isn't worth the continue time to discuss!
LBM
Yes, this is what I'm saying. The first time a girl and her mamasan were telling me about the bar I was in, which apparently just opened recently. They went on and on about all the work that went into it, and how the owner shelled out 6, 000, 000 baht to open the joint. I brushed it off as promotional nonsense, especially since it was a dump.
On a later date, I talked with an experience Thai bar girl about a lady I knew in another country who used the money she made as a working gal to open her own shop. The Thai bar girl said it was impossible in Pattaya because it costs "5-7 million baht to open a bar here".
It obviously sounds ridiculous, but who the fuck knows. I never looked into setting up a beer bar before.
China!
"Thailand alone received 20 million visitors in 2011, [compered with] more than the 12.3 million combined arrivals in the four countries (Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar, Vietnam). Thailand projects 26 million tourists in 2015 while CLMV nations aim at 25 million."
China is now the largest source of Thai tourism revenue. Thailand could earn more than Bt1 billion per year in visa fees from the more than 2 million Chinese tourists expected to travel to the Kingdom.
About 2.2 million Chinese are expected to visit Thailand this year, up from 1.7 million last year. If neighbouring countries waive visa fees for the Chinese, Thailand will suffer a huge loss. Tourists from third countries may shift to destinations in Indochina and Myanmar.
...
Thailand's share of the regional tourism market plunged from 38 per cent in 2008 to 33 per cent last year. Singapore and Malaysia became key rivals, as they have developed many new attractions and continue progressive plans. About 80 million visitors travel into the region. Of them, 36 million or 45 per cent are from Asean countries and 44 million are from outside the region.
[url]http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/587195-fearing-loss-of-visa-fees-thailand-opts-out-of-common-visa-plan/[/url]
"the government of thailand announced last week that it was extending internet coverage so that the more than 19 million international tourists who visit the country annually will be able to access free wifi across the state. the government of thailand has unveiled a program under the name 'ict free wi-fi for tourism' to install high-speed internet at 1, 615 hotspots in the main tourist attractions across the country. the government said the program will start soon, without giving a specific date.
around 15 percent of the routers (253) will be installed in the country's capital bangkok. 446 in the central region which surrounds the capital. 201 in the eastern region bordering cambodia. 323 in the southern region where the popular phuket island is located. 325 in the northern region between myanmar and laos, and 67 in the less touristy northeastern region.
the aim of the program is to promote the economy through tourism, one of the country's biggest economic motors. according to thai travel news website, in 2011 thailand received a record number of 19, 098, 323 international tourists. 19. 84 percent more than in 2010, most of them coming from malaysia (2. 47 million) , china (1. 76 million) and japan (1. 12 million).
last month, the city of pattaya, one of the most popular beach resorts among international tourists, signed a contract with internet provider true corporation to install 1000 routers in the main tourist districts in the city.
pattaya receives around 5. 5 million tourists a year. 70 percent of whom are foreigners. according to mayor itthiphol khunplome these tourists stay an average of three days and use 30 minutes of internet at a time."
now, that's what i ca; ; tourist friendly. next, free tgs. doesn't hurt to dream, does it.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1332855]"The government of Thailand announced last week that it was extending internet coverage so that the more than 19 million international tourists who visit the country annually will be able to access free WiFi across the state. Now, that's what I ca; ; tourist friendly. Next, free TGs. Doesn't hurt to dream, does it.[/QUOTE]Let's dream about it! You don't give out for free one of the good people's revenues. We know the real Thaiand income comes from other sources, tourism is an important one, but not the top. Still they can't afford to drop it. The "girlie" industry is probably not significant in the general scheme of things, but certainly it is for many poor areas whose girls head to BKK / Pattaya / Phuket to generate revenues they send home. This also skips official statistics. Just look at the related trade around Nana: bars, street vendors, taxi etc. If NEP would not be there, all that is desert and all those guys need to find something to do to survive.
Free-wifi alongside the country is a nice idea, but I don't think it is a decision maker when one plans holidays in a country. I hope it is not!
Otherwise it will soon lead to one of the mobile tool jokes: people sitting at the same table and communicating via chat lines.
We are getting too much dependant on wifi, indeed. But I don't think a way to escape from this trend.
[QUOTE=Duniawala; 1332855]Around 15 percent of the routers (253) will be installed in the country's capital Bangkok.
(snip)
Last month, the city of Pattaya, one of the most popular beach resorts among international tourists, signed a contract with internet provider True Corporation to install 1000 routers in the main tourist districts in the city.[/QUOTE]If Pattaya for the main tourist disctricts already need 1000 routers, then the 253 routers in Bangkok will be a drop in the ocean. You will probably need that many routers just to cover one medium shopping mall. I need two to be able to have WiFi everwhere in my house and I am not living in a grand palace!
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1332932]If Pattaya for the main tourist disctricts already need 1000 routers, then the 253 routers in Bangkok will be a drop in the ocean. You will probably need that many routers just to cover one medium shopping mall. I need two to be able to have WiFi everwhere in my house and I am not living in a grand palace![/QUOTE]Was my thought too when reading the quantity. I think the main (true) reason for this project is to make someone happy: the hardware providers, the IP and. Somebody within the powers who took the decision and make it happen.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1332932]If Pattaya for the main tourist disctricts already need 1000 routers, then the 253 routers in Bangkok will be a drop in the ocean. You will probably need that many routers just to cover one medium shopping mall. I need two to be able to have WiFi everwhere in my house and I am not living in a grand palace![/QUOTE]If you upgraded to the newest standard Wi-Fi Dual Band AC router I would be very surprised if you needed more than one router. My guess is that most hotels, etc are using B-G routers which will markedly increase the number needed. A Wi-Fi Range Extender could have also probably solved your problem without a second router.
What percentage of their earnings do TGs in MP's get to keep? Like Annies, where sex is on the menu, not strictly massage only places.
How about escorts in Thailand? One girl said she got to keep 4000 plus tips on a 5000 baht ST session.
I understand Gogo girls get about 2K per short time + tips & keep 100% of that. They also get a salary & a percentage of lady drinks. Do they get a percentage of the BF?
Beer bar girls, I think, are the same as GGG, though the ST amount is more likely to be less.
Freelancers generally keep 100% of the donation & tips.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1333735]What percentage of their earnings do TGs in MP's get to keep? Like Annies, where sex is on the menu, not strictly massage only places.
How about escorts in Thailand? One girl said she got to keep 4000 plus tips on a 5000 baht ST session.
I understand Gogo girls get about 2K per short time + tips & keep 100% of that. They also get a salary & a percentage of lady drinks. Do they get a percentage of the BF?
Beer bar girls, I think, are the same as GGG, though the ST amount is more likely to be less.
Freelancers generally keep 100% of the donation & tips.[/QUOTE]The girls I have spoken with say they keep 1/2.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1333965]The girls I have spoken with say they keep 1/2.[/QUOTE]This would be out of the amount the customer pays the MP?
And tips would be extra & entirely the MP worker's to keep?
Would the 1/2 or 50% include fringe benefits like free room, food, medical, etc? Or would fringe benefits be given in addition to the salary of 50%
I've read that Annies offers fringe benefits such as these. And Aey wanted to keep it hushed how much her employees earned, percentage wise.
I suppose there are many different income & incentive packages amongst the many MP's?
How many MP's catering to farangs do you estimate exist in Bangkok & Pattaya?
What percentage of Thai prostitutes do you figure are GGG, independents / freelancers, beer bar girls, online escorts & MP employees?
Would MP's have more than each of the other 4?
I guess those 5 categories covers it all.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1333735]What percentage of their earnings do TGs in MP's get to keep? Like Annies, where sex is on the menu, not strictly massage only places.[/QUOTE]Obviously girls used to get the 1500 for full sex and any tips at Oilies. Actually no not quite. Its common at many MPs that girls get absolutely zero from the downstairs massage fee which might be 800 Baht for example. On top of that, the establishment will charge the girls heavy amounts for electricity, drinks, use of room, soaps and other supplies, even condoms. The girls will not be allowed to supply their own often. The girls also get fined for being late, for being away sick, for finding items in the room afterwards, using too many towels, etc.
So if you go an MP and refuse the special, the girl not only loses time but also loses money. That is why she really should be tipped even if you don't want any special. Only A-holes go to a sex parlour to get just a massage unless they pay for the special IMHO. If the customer wants a special, but doesn't get it, that is different.
In places where there is an all in price and its a bit more expensive, the girls cut may be slightly less than 1500 even before she pays expenses, e. G. 1400.
At a Spa, where officially there is no sex, a girl might make good money from sly sex, and making a higher amount per customer than at a sex shop MP.
At Soapies, the girl is only getting approx. 50% of the fee, although maybe slightly more at some places. Again there will be other fees, fines, etc. Many soapy girls are getting well under 1500 Baht per session if no extra tip.
Gogo girls get salary plus drink commissions plus tips. However there are all sorts of fines there too, for being late, for not comming to work, for selling insufficient drinks for the month, etc. After all the fines, there may not be much salary left. In fact some girls lost all of their salary on a regular basis. So what is better for girls may be to be a bar free-lancer where they get no salary, can turn up when ever they like, and make money from just drink commisions, tips and from going with the customer.
However the management don't like this arrangement much as girls are missing a lot. Also girls may return to salary when they find they are not getting enough customers.
Can't comment on escorts.
One of the frequent complaints on the punter boards is the demise of the girl-friend experience (GFE). It's often claimed that the girls, particularly in Pattaya go go bars, now have poor attitudes and the level of service has decreased while prices have risen. Girls are no longer interested in L / T, with S / T the only option, so the story goes. Comparisons are made to how things used to be five, ten. 15 or more years ago, with the conclusion that things were much, much better in the "good old days."
But is it really true?
I fully believe that it is still possible get excellent service in terms of the GFE and L / T. Whether it is the same service level and attitude that used to be the "norm" depends on the definitions you use. A lot of what some guys term a "great attitude" was actually desperation.
I've been visiting Thailand (and Pattaya) since 1979 and have indeed seen enormous changes over the years, mostly for the better. Prior to the mid-1980s, Thailand was a poor country and Isaan was a wretchedly poor area. Many, many girls. Thousands upon thousands. Turned to prostitution because they had no other way of surviving. Everything they owned, a change of clothes and a few cosmetics, if they were lucky, could be carried in shoulder bag. When a girl had no money, no place to live and not even food for the day, she would trade sex for a roof over her head and a square meal or two. That had nothing to do with a good attitude, it was an echo of the desperation that comes with dire poverty.
Back then, a lot of guys paid the girls nothing, especially the freelancers. The P4P scene was very much smaller in the 1970s and 1980s than it is today. The girls who had jobs in the few go go bars that existed then belonged to the elite and could demand cash payment, but the other girls had to accept what came their way. To a girl who was hungry and had nowhere to sleep, a bed and a meal but no money was better than no bed, no meal and no money. The girls stayed with a customer until he kicked them out because they had nowhere else to go.
Moreover, most girls were hoping to win the farang lottery, I. E, marry a farang who could lift them out of poverty. They did everything they could. Iron shirts, pack his suitcase, please him sexually. To convince him they were good wife material. Some girls did indeed get lucky and found husbands, which only fueled the dream for the much larger number who didn't.
But in the mid-1980s, things began to change. The Thai economy began to develop rapidly. This created more opportunities for girls inside and outside P4P. There was a very gradual switch from survival prostitution to what could be called occupational prostitution. The girls no longer traded sexual services for minimal level, but because they considered it far more lucrative than any other job they could realistically get. While quite a few girls still hoped to marry a farang, a lot have learned, sometimes through their own bitter experience, sometimes through stories from family members and friends, that it was a remote chance. Today, the girls make sure they are compensated fairly for their services while waiting for Prince Charming to whisk them away.
Nowadays most girls have a life outside of P4P, hence the unwillingness to spend all night and all day with customers. They can skip the second morning round that gave them only few hundred baht more because many earn enough through their bar salaries, lady drinks and S / T fees to live at a standard they find acceptable. It's clear, if the girl likes you. She'll be willing to spend more time with you. I agree L / T has become rarer for some punters. And deservedly so. But by no means for all.
In short, what some call a "worse attitude" I see as less desperation on the part of the girls. I don't believe that can ever be a bad thing. It's certainly a negative for punters who can't or don't want to open their wallets a bit wider, but the guys who treat the girls decently and reward them appropriately won't have any problem finding a GFE, including L / T.
Evil
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel; 1334036]I've been visiting Thailand (and Pattaya) since 1979 and have indeed seen enormous changes over the years, mostly for the better. Prior to the mid-1980s, Thailand was a poor country and Isaan was a wretchedly poor area. Many, many girls. Thousands upon thousands. Turned to prostitution because they had no other way of surviving. Everything they owned, a change of clothes and a few cosmetics, if they were lucky, could be carried in shoulder bag. When a girl had no money, no place to live and not even food for the day, she would trade sex for a roof over her head and a square meal or two. That had nothing to do with a good attitude, it was an echo of the desperation that comes with dire poverty.
Back then, a lot of guys paid the girls nothing, especially the freelancers. The P4P scene was very much smaller in the 1970s and 1980s than it is today. The girls who had jobs in the few go go bars that existed then belonged to the elite and could demand cash payment, but the other girls had to accept what came their way. To a girl who was hungry and had nowhere to sleep, a bed and a meal but no money was better than no bed, no meal and no money. The girls stayed with a customer until he kicked them out because they had nowhere else to go.
Evil[/QUOTE]I agree with a lot of what you say. The Isaan area had good supplies of water for farming in the old days. Today some of it is dry and barren (when not experiencing floods). China has dammed the rivers.
My first trip here was 29 years ago (1980s). Even then was not hard to find working girls. There were a few Soapies in Sukhumvit, some of those have closed now, e. G. Thermae, Golden Gate (I think it was called). Phuket already had a "street of a thousand bars". To say the the mongering scene was much "smaller" seems like exaggeration. Much much cheaper yes. I wasn't familiar with Oilies back then so can't comment on how many MPs offered sex. I could ask my buddy who was more experienced.
Early 90s the Grace and Thermae were packed with people, Cowboy was going strong, and PatPong had been around for long time, I think Nana was relatively new and a bit tame initially. Some soapies were closing but new ones would open elsewhere.
My impression is that the sex trade has been pretty big at least since the vietnam war.
Nice post. It's good to see you writing again, Penivel.
I went to Annie's about a year ago. Got 2 girls, and had a great time. But one thing I wish I would've asked for was the double BJ. I was really impressed with the cleaning process. Washing, soaping, changing condom, alcohol wipes. But looking back, I don't know if they would have even done it, and considered it "un-sanitary"
Anybody have any experience with this? Do most girls deny this or maybe I just forgot to ask?
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel;1334036]There was a very gradual switch from survival prostitution to what could be called occupational prostitution. The girls no longer traded sexual services for minimal level, but because they considered it far more lucrative than any other job they could realistically get.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the history lesson. If you could only get NGOs to understand this reality as you have so eloquently put it.
[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1327322]Also seems bizarre that a food stall selling a grand total of $20 worth of food a day would face a shake down.[/QUOTE]I think that's a bit of an underestimate. Most food stall sellers I talk to here in the upcountry say that even the very poorly located ones with few customers will make at least $15-20 / day in [i]net[/i] Profit, with obviously a considerably larger revenue, and many of the fairly busy ones make [i]much more[/i]. If you think about it, they're open for maybe 6-12 hours per day, depending on their working hours preference, each meal they sell is 30-40 baht, so maybe in one day they're bringing in 2-4, 000 baht in gross, with the ingredients cost maybe 1/3 or a little more.
A thousand or two thousand per day profit (after paying for costs of ingredients) is quite normal, with usually 2-4 family members laboring there. Finally at the end of the month they may have some payments such as rent for the space, and a small payment to police. As far as I've heard 500 baht per month is commonplace in the upcountry, so no doubt it would be a bit more in Pattaya.
Overall I'd certainly much rather be a food-stall operator in Thailand than a fast food worker back in the Bad Place.
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel; 1334036]One of the frequent complaints on the punter boards is the demise of the girl-friend experience (GFE).
You make some good points especially at the end.
The westernization has caused a lot of the problems. But I get GFE 99% of the time. That is one reason I fly 8, 000 miles to these places.
I stay in a nice place, treat them nice.
Also, I always spend some time with them talking or having a coffe or drink before the commitment. I can usually tell within 15 minutes if it will be a GFE or not.
[QUOTE=Opebo; 1334124]A thousand or two thousand per day profit (after paying for costs of ingredients) is quite normal, with usually 2-4 family members laboring there. Finally at the end of the month they may have some payments such as rent for the space, and a small payment to police. As far as I've heard 500 baht per month is commonplace in the upcountry, so no doubt it would be a bit more in Pattaya.
Overall I'd certainly much rather be a food-stall operator in Thailand than a fast food worker back in the Bad Place.[/QUOTE]That's more like it. The girl who makes to order for me is extremely busy for several hours, and would not suprise me if she takes 150 Baht per 10 mins. She only has one helper. In her busiest hours she could be taking 1000 Baht per hour, and even after overheads that is good money. She got 70 Baht from me for 2 dishes in 5 mins or so but was cooking for others concurrently.
O.K. Its not fair for me to compare a busy suburb of Bangkok, to out in the sticks, as up country the customers may not have much to spend.
If Thais want to sell, it should be popular cooked food, and choose the right location near to market places or business areas.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1334161]okay Its not fair for me to compare a busy suburb of Bangkok, to out in the sticks, as up country the customers may not have much to spend.
If Thais want to sell, it should be popular cooked food, and choose the right location near to market places or business areas.[/QUOTE]Actually, the sellers upcountry have it easier, as there is not much as competition. About 5 miles from Buriram there is a lady that sells chickens on the side of the road. Also somtom and rice and some chips and drinks. On a slow day she will sell 100 chickens, at 150thb each-you can do the math. I am building a a resort complex nearby, and it seems that her stand is busy for the whole time she is open (11-4). About one mile closer to town is another chicken place, and her sales are higher. It seems that a great number of people don't either have the facilities to cook, or are too lazy. The money is there is somone wants to make it, the side of the road places have very little overhead, and can make their own hours.
[QUOTE=Evil Penival]There was a very gradual switch from survival prostitution to what could be called occupational prostitution. The girls no longer traded sexual services for minimal level, but because they considered it far more lucrative than any other job they could realistically get.[/QUOTE]Can you define "survival prostitution" and the "occupational" type?
Are you saying the former would have starved to death, if they didn't become hookers?
And what are their options to being a working girl today? Work 60 hours a week in a factory for 6000 baht a month? If so, some would say they are "forced" by Thailand's poverty into selling their pussies. Moreover, some might contend that those who use them thus are "exploiting" and taking advantage of them.
BTW, for the record, I am speaking here as a "devil's advocate". I am interested in how you would respond so that I might learn something & be able to help others understand. I fully support sex tourism to places like Thailand.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1334099]Thanks for the history lesson. If you could only get NGOs to understand this reality as you have so eloquently put it.[/QUOTE]Can you elaborate?
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1334585]Can you define "survival prostitution" and the "occupational" type?
Are you saying the former would have starved to death, if they didn't become hookers?[/QUOTE]I think he explained that quite well in his post. Read it again. S L O W L Y.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1334585]And what are their options to being a working girl today? Work 60 hours a week in a factory for 6000 baht a month? If so, some would say they are "forced" by Thailand's poverty into selling their pussies. Moreover, some might contend that those who use them thus are "exploiting" and taking advantage of them.[/QUOTE]I am forced by the European greedy capitalist system to sell my brains on a daily basis. I think that is even worse since it is my profound wish to be able to sit under a palm-tree surrounded by worshipping sex starved Asian girls who think I am their sex-god.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1334585]BTW, for the record, I am speaking here as a "devil's advocate". I am interested in how you would respond so that I might learn something & be able to help others understand. I fully support sex tourism to places like Thailand.
Can you elaborate?[/QUOTE]You are not a devil's advocate, you are an Internet Troll. You are both giving the Devil and lawyers a bad name by what you are doing.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1334647]I think he explained that quite well in his post. Read it again. S L O W L Y.
I am forced by the European greedy capitalist system to sell my brains on a daily basis. I think that is even worse since it is my profound wish to be able to sit under a palm-tree surrounded by worshipping sex starved Asian girls who think I am their sex-god.
You are not a devil's advocate, you are an Internet Troll. You are both giving the Devil and lawyers a bad name by what you are doing.[/QUOTE]True, his entertaining story was explained or described in quite a bit of detail. Though I was asking for a definition, and in particular if starvation was occuring & their only other option. What did TGs do before farang were in LOS buying their bodies? Selling it to locals for half as much?
Re your cushy job, as one rock and roll troll to another, I totally sympathize with your sufferings. Perhaps you'ld prefer a sweatshop like factory job, eh? What's their other choice, being a fuck barbie, painful supersized alien anal probings, COF up the nose & down the throat with gaging? Life can be rough.
D. A.
District Attorney
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Yah-Pit (BODY SLAM)
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lACNkaKSZ0&feature=relmfu[/url]
Not everyone has the skill set to become an entrepreneur. For some, the only inventory they can manage is their vagina.
A friend just called and told me that Don Muang airport is almost flooded. Dumb Asses.
[QUOTE=Dash Riprock;1334680]Not everyone has the skill set to become an entrepreneur. For some, the only inventory they can manage is their vagina.[/QUOTE]A friend if mine once described the pussy as a life support for the Thai girls.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1334662], and in particular if starvation was occuring & their only other option. What did TGs do before farang were in LOS buying their bodies? Selling it to locals for half as much?
Yah-Pit (BODY SLAM)
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lACNkaKSZ0&feature=relmfu[/url][/QUOTE]Have a look at SEA history and presence of farangs in the last century, at least (more if you go north to Shangai) and you will see that farangs buying sexual services from local women have always been a good support to many families.
Where do you think the American soldiers were resting their bones during the Vietnam war? Surely with the grand-grand mothers of some cutie go-go girl of these days. Or about.
Not for nothing prostitution is the eldest profession in the world. Can this be changed now? By a law?
[QUOTE=Dash Riprock;1334680]Not everyone has the skill set to become an entrepreneur.[/QUOTE]So do what you are good at that makes good money.
Some Thai girls like sex alright. Why work hard 9 to 5 for low money when can fuck when they feel like it for quite good money? Others prefer to work harder and a top girl can make a lot more than an office worker. Girls drift from straight massage to sex providers because they get good extra money. Usually the normal job money is just not enough to support the whole family.
Would I do my current job, if I could fuck girls or do something else (that doesn't involve going to prison) for a much higher pay day? I doubt it.
Its simple people just arrive at whatever allows them to make the most money most easily, unless they have strong religious qualms.
Poor countries have a lot of hookers if they can get away with it legally. Its always been that way and always will be. For many guys, a hooker is cheaper than a wife and better variety, or a good suppliment to insufficient sex.
Its only immoral when you make babies.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1335777]So do what you are good at that makes good money.
Some Thai girls like sex alright. Why work hard 9 to 5 for low money when can fuck when they feel like it for quite good money?[/QUOTE]Spoken like a True Tourist.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1335714]A friend if mine once described the pussy as a life support for the Thai girls.[/QUOTE]In that regard, I was surprised to read this the other day:
[QUOTE=]Thai women rise fastest in corporate world.
Published: 8/03/2011 at 03:26 AM Newspaper section: Business.
Thailand ranks first in providing opportunities for women to climb the corporate ladder, according to the latest survey by consulting firm Grant Thornton.
[url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/05/yingluck-shinawatra-thailand-female-pm[/url]
In the 2011 Grant Thornton International Business Report, Thailand boasts the greatest percentage of women in senior roles at 45, followed by Georgia (40%) , Russia (36%) , Hong Kong and the Philippines (both 35%).
Countries with the lowest percentages are India, the United Arab Emirates and Japan, where fewer than 10% of senior positions are held by women.
[url]http://www.bangkokpost.com/business/economics/225389/thai-women-rise-fastest-in-corporate-world[/url]
Women are also likely to play an increasing role as leaders. According to the survey by Grant Thornton in 2011, the share of women in Thailand who are in a senior management position is as high as 45, the highest in the world (see Figure 27). This is mainly on account of women's higher educational attainment. There are now more women than men with vocational and university education in the labor force, a different trend from the past of which the share between men and women with higher education was about the same (see Figure 28).
[url]http://www.scb.co.th/eic/doc/en/insight/SCB[/url]
%20Insight%20April%202011_Eng. Pdf[/QUOTE]
Do Thai girls have the worst teeth in the world?
I am just wondering.
I have never seen so many young girls with bad teeth and braces. A BBBJ with braces can be very painfull.
Whats the deal?
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1335777]Why work hard 9 to 5 for low money when can fuck when they feel like it for quite good money?[/QUOTE]Some of the TG hookers do both. If P4P dries up, e. G. Gets flooded to death, they have an income source to pay the rent & eat on. The problem with that is when they come to work they may have trouble staying away & nod off during sex.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1335777]Girls drift from straight massage to sex providers because they get good extra money. Usually the normal job money is just not enough to support the whole family.[/QUOTE]Therein lies the curse of Buddhism for these girls; they think it's their duty to "support the whole family". Western SP's are free from that.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1335777]Its only immoral when you make babies.[/QUOTE]What if she wants babies? They may be your hookers in 20 years.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1335849]Do Thai girls have the worst teeth in the world?
I am just wondering. I have never seen so many young girls with bad teeth and braces. A BBBJ with braces can be very painfull. Whats the deal?[/QUOTE]Smart dentists! Capable to sell their services. A bit of fashion too. And return revenues for the industry. Had my western dentist suggesting me to apply braces for some corrections (honestly nothing dramatic) : I objected that if I could leave till being 59 with my teeth I cam still leave the rest of my life whatever long this can be.
My assumption in general is that P4P girls comes from a poor background. If that is the case from what I see and experience they are raised on soda and candy because that is all they can afford. The little mini-marts that are open everywhere in neighborhoods 1 baht to 5 baht are all gear to the little kids. Sugar is their main diet for them and seeing a dentist isn't in the budget. The toothpaste purchase is the cheapest on the market and any brushing techique is at a minimum. So the result is expected lots of cavaties?
The dentist like most of the nice hospital push and sell things like braces and lots of extras. My brother who is in the dental field use to tell me being a dentist give them a license to steal. When is the last time you went to a dentist and he told you you need this and you said NO?
I too would say 59 years of age is kind of old to have braces? I did my at 30 years to spread my teeth out since they were packed too close together which prevented me from flossing properly resulting in food being stuck in between. Older patients can always opt for the reverse invisiable type?
Personally never had a problem with braces getting a BJ or DFK, not yet?
LBM
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1335849]Do Thai girls have the worst teeth in the world?
I am just wondering.
I have never seen so many young girls with bad teeth and braces. A BBBJ with braces can be very painfull.
Whats the deal?[/QUOTE]I've never understood how the braces can be more dangerous than the teeth they are on. I've read this concern many times but don't get it. Somebody please explain the geometry of the braces causing pain. Also if true, what does the inside of the lip experience for the wearer?
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1335849]Do Thai girls have the worst teeth in the world?
I am just wondering.
I have never seen so many young girls with bad teeth and braces. A BBBJ with braces can be very painfull.
Whats the deal?[/QUOTE]I agree with the other poster. They don't have worst teeth and many of them don't need the braces. Its become a trend to get braces just like all those unnecessary nose jobs that look so ugly compared to the original nose, and all those ugly silicone jobs too.
Only a handful of posters post photos in the Thai PG these days; but for those of you who do, take notice of this story below. Although there's likely lots more to this story.
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At 9pm on Tuesday, Police Colonel Chaiyot, Superintendent of Chonburi Immigration, based in Jomtien Beach Road Soi 5, announced the arrest of an Australian National, originally from Italy, based on an arrest warrant relating to charges of posting explicit pictures of a Thai woman on the internet which caused her a loss of reputation. The Colonel confirmed he had earlier served warrant number 650/2555 dated 25th September 2012 and issued by Rayong Provincial Court and arrested Mr. Luciano Glavina aged 56 at a popular Bar & Restaurant in Soi Kao Noi, East Pattaya, where he was known to frequently eat and would often attend Golfing events. Mr. Glavina confirmed it was his name on the warrant but vehemently denied three separate allegations which are detailed in the warrant including allegations he posted pictures of the woman on the internet without her consent and the pictures damaged her reputation. The original complaint was made at a Police Station in Rayong Province so Mr. Glavina will be transferred to Rayong Police for further legal processing.
[QUOTE=Dash Riprock;1334680]Not everyone has the skill set to become an entrepreneur. For some, the only inventory they can manage is their vagina.[/QUOTE]There's a Thai saying that the only field a girl plows is the one between her legs
Dinghy is back after a long dry spell
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1335886]My assumption in general is that P4P girls comes from a poor background. If that is the case from what I see and experience they are raised on soda and candy because that is all they can afford.
LBM[/QUOTE]Actually yes, they do come from relatively poor backgrounds, generally (though there is a sizable non-poor contingent as well. They're kind of two different 'types' of working girl) , but what makes them eat a lot of junk food, like poor people anywhere in the world, is their incorporation into global capitalism. A few decades ago, when these people lived 'self-sufficiently' on their own in villages, farming, they had very healthy diets, and better lifestyles than they do now. These days they are wage-laborers, with technically more money and and a better 'standard of living' according to money-based statistics, but a hugely worse and less healthy lifestyle.
[QUOTE=Opebo;1338211]Actually yes, they do come from relatively poor backgrounds, generally (though there is a sizable non-poor contingent as well. They're kind of two different 'types' of working girl) , but what makes them eat a lot of junk food, like poor people anywhere in the world, is their incorporation into global capitalism. A few decades ago, when these people lived 'self-sufficiently' on their own in villages, farming, they had very healthy diets, and better lifestyles than they do now. These days they are wage-laborers, with technically more money and and a better 'standard of living' according to money-based statistics, but a hugely worse and less healthy lifestyle.[/QUOTE]That might account for all the Thais liking KFC so much, plus they throw in a nice sweet coke in their sets and sell sugar ice cream. Yea Take out!
LBM
Will be hitting Bangkok late on December 4th to awake on the King's birthday December 5th. I assume alcohol sales will be banned and bars closed. Is this correct? Also, I'm wondering if MPs like Mangos and Snow White will have girls available, at least for outcall to my hotel. I'm also wondering what effects Constitution Day on December 10th might have on these areas.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Run Mann; 1336013]Only a handful of posters post photos in the Thai PG these days; but for those of you who do, take notice of this story below. Although there's likely lots more to this story.[/QUOTE]Run Mann, I do not doubt your sincerity. Could you provide us with a link to this questionable story?
Thank you kindly.
[QUOTE=Noddy; 1338938]Run Mann, I do not doubt your sincerity. Could you provide us with a link to this questionable story?
Thank you kindly.[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/63728/well-known-australian-ex-pat-golfer-arrested-pattaya-immigration/[/url]
[QUOTE=Noddy; 1338938]Run Mann, I do not doubt your sincerity. Could you provide us with a link to this questionable story?
Thank you kindly.[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ59Au3w1i4[/url]
The wrong-ed upon, is seeking 3000, 000 baht in compensation and is reportedly related to police. Why am I not surprised! I guess it is not a good idea to spend too long bowling about with the workers. ST them and move on, I say.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1338304]That might account for all the Thais liking KFC so much, plus they throw in a nice sweet coke in their sets and sell sugar ice cream. Yea Take out!
LBM[/QUOTE]They certainly love Swenson's.
The Thai version of sidenafil (Viagra) should be on the market by now. Anyone have information on availability and pharmacy prices? Not that you guys would need anything like that, I would never imply that! Me, I have to take anti-boner pills just to give the girls an hours rest.
Josh
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1339061]They certainly love Swenson's.[/QUOTE]So do I, oh that Chocolate Chip!
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1339365]Yes, these are not only farang prices but one has to remember that the price Mr. E, pays includes the furniture. Bed, tables, T. V, A / C unit and a hot water shower unit. In Pattaya, the prices from my experience is pretty close to 1500/3000 baht all depending on the area for just a empty room (studio) no hot water and no a / see. The lower the cost the worse it looks, many 1500 baht rooms do not have a sit down toilet. Every baht must be look after so if they are working girls, most likely you will not even see a refrigerator, they have 1 fan, and roll up mats and sleep on the floor, no tables, no sofa, even if they aren't working girls just a small place like this is very common for a Thai family to live in with 4 to 5 people. The less one pays the worse it gets from my experience. Many Thais are just slum lords!
LBM[/QUOTE]The working girls in Bangkok have said they pay prices ranging from 3000 to 6000 for a place.
I don't know what this includes, such as A / C, toilet, hot water, electricity, etc.
One P4P gal claimed to rent a house far from NEP for 10,000.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1339588]The working girls in Bangkok have said they pay prices ranging from 3000 to 6000 for a place.
I don't know what this includes, such as A / C, toilet, hot water, electricity, etc.
One P4P gal claimed to rent a house far from NEP for 10, 000.[/QUOTE]You are missing the boat? The conversation and replies are regarding Pattaya not Bangkok.
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1340234]You are missing the boat? The conversation and replies are regarding Pattaya not Bangkok.
LBM[/QUOTE]I realized that. I was surprised at such low prices in Pattaya. 1200 to 3000 baht. Bangkok girls have never mentioned to me paying anything less than 3000 for a room. I guess Bangkok is just more expensive.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1340298]I realized that. I was surprised at such low prices in Pattaya. 1200 to 3000 baht. Bangkok girls have never mentioned to me paying anything less than 3000 for a room. I guess Bangkok is just more expensive.[/QUOTE]They never told you. Of course not. But you can take it for granted that in the area where Bangkok BG's generally live, prices are way less than 3000 Bt. A max of 2500 Bt all inclusive would be more obvious. And tehn they share with 2 others. For a nice one bedroom apartment in Bankapi / Ramkhamhaeng area you will pay no more than 3000 Bt excluding utilities. And, although I have no ideas about Pattaya, according to prices of cheap but clean guesthouses in South Pattaya, renting a room for a BG will be much less than in BKK.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1340298]I realized that. I was surprised at such low prices in Pattaya. 1200 to 3000 baht. Bangkok girls have never mentioned to me paying anything less than 3000 for a room. I guess Bangkok is just more expensive.[/QUOTE]You don't want to go near a place that is asking 1200 baht unless you got strong legs when you take a dump? And certainly the % would be against someone looking at that price range within a close distant to the tourist area. Of course these prices are just a basic room with no furniture, no hot water and A / C, I've seen a number of rooms in Pattaya very clean at the price range of 3, 000 baht, in fact it is very common.
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1340439]You don't want to go near a place that is asking 1200 baht unless you got strong legs when you take a dump?[/QUOTE]Or he could cut a hole in the bottom of a chair.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1340439]You don't want to go near a place that is asking 1200 baht unless you got strong legs when you take a dump?[/QUOTE]You obviously have no clue what you are talking about.
In Pattaya (Central Location) there are many hotels with Swimming pool, free wifi, and under 1, 000 thb!
Siam View Residence.
Fourteen Again Hotel.
Sunsmile Resort Pattaya
And many others.
They're not luxury, sure, but they are very decent for the price and they all have proper bathrooms
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1341128]You obviously have no clue what you are talking about.
In Pattaya (Central Location) there are many hotels with Swimming pool, free wifi, and under 1, 000 thb!
They're not luxury, sure, but they are very decent for the price and they all have proper bathrooms[/QUOTE]Except that we were talking about rooms / apartments for monthly rental.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1341128]You obviously have no clue what you are talking about.
In Pattaya (Central Location) there are many hotels with Swimming pool, free wifi, and under 1, 000 thb!
Siam View Residence.
Fourteen Again Hotel.
Sunsmile Resort Pattaya
And many others.
They're not luxury, sure, but they are very decent for the price and they all have proper bathrooms[/QUOTE]Nic,
I think if you got your head out of cloud nine and those tight designr shoes, white starch collar shirts you might run back on the post and clearly see or read that we are not talking about hotels but apartments. The fact is you yourself have no clue since in your own words never set foot outside Central or the tourist area which you already stated is a shit hole. Outside of the shit hole there are hundred if not thousands in the darkside like the Nongprue area that are pond of shit! I guess it is obvious you have no idea what this topic is about since you can't get by the word luxury.
Apartments not Hotels?
LBM
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1341131]Except that we were talking about rooms / apartments for monthly rental.[/QUOTE]And NF referred to daily rates, making it 30, 000 a month.
My (girl) friend lives in BKK in a nice fully secured building (for uni girls, no men allowed in the building!) and pays 100b. A day, that makes 3000 a month, as many said. I don't know what that includes in terms of utilities etc.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1341152]Nic,
I think if you got your head out of cloud nine and those tight designr shoes, white starch collar shirts you might run back on the post and clearly see or read that we are not talking about hotels but apartments. The fact is you yourself have no clue since in your own words never set foot outside Central or the tourist area which you already stated is a shit hole. Outside of the shit hole there are hundred if not thousands in the darkside like the Nongprue area that are pond of shit! I guess it is obvious you have no idea what this topic is about since you can't get by the word luxury.
Apartments not Hotels?
LBM[/QUOTE]Ah shit, I stand Corrected, hahahahaha. It's true though, when it comes to Pattaya, I have no clue (and don't really want to get a clue). I'll let you get back to your street noodles while I go get my shoes Polished at the Sukhothai Hotel.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1341193]Ah shit, I stand Corrected, hahahahaha. It's true though, when it comes to Pattaya, I have no clue (and don't really want to get a clue). I'll let you get back to your street noodles while I go get my shoes Polished at the Sukhothai Hotel.[/QUOTE]Is that a spit shine?
LBM
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1341154]And NF referred to daily rates, making it 30, 000 a month.
My (girl) friend lives in BKK in a nice fully secured building (for uni girls, no men allowed in the building!) and pays 100b. A day, that makes 3000 a month, as many said. I don't know what that includes in terms of utilities etc.[/QUOTE]No furniture and water and electric is all extra?
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1341214]No furniture and water and electric is all extra? LBM[/QUOTE]Honestly I don't know, for sure no furniture as the mattress is on the floor (as we read here many times). She values much the security and the fact nobody unwanted can enter the building. She is laughing at it: "can you imagine, a bar girl living in a flat where no man can get in?".
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1341193]Ah shit, I stand Corrected, hahahahaha. It's true though, when it comes to Pattaya, I have no clue (and don't really want to get a clue). I'll let you get back to your street noodles while I go get my shoes Polished at the Sukhothai Hotel.[/QUOTE]Seriously, my shoes need a shine. I can walk in there and get one?
[QUOTE=Ivanba;1341990]Seriously, my shoes need a shine. I can walk in there and get one?[/QUOTE]About any 5 star Hotel will have a shoe shine service (usually made in the back by the Bell boys) , it will not be a proper chair where you will just sit relax and have your shoes shined.
If you're on a budget, you can always go to Silom road and try to find that guy (see picture)
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1341999]About any 5 star Hotel will have a shoe shine service (usually made in the back by the Bell boys) , it will not be a proper chair where you will just sit relax and have your shoes shined.
If you're on a budget, you can always go to Silom road and try to find that guy (see picture) [/QUOTE]I was having some refreshments last Thursday, over on Soi 20 that sports bar behind the 7-11, First place on the left going down the street. There is a guy who shines shoes right there while one is relaxing and enjoying the afternoon.
I am back in USA after my 10 day trip. I won't bore you with all the details. But, this may be the best trip I have ever had. The pussy was stellar with just one bad experience.
Here are some highlights:
TLL:
I met 6 girls from the site. I fucked 5 of them bareback with cum in pussy. All were professional girls with decent jobs. None were P4P.
One girl got so fucking drunk she passsed out in my hotel room bed. I am a snake but could not fuck a passed out girl. She got up at 6am and left. No problem.
I think the dating site approach is OK. But you really need to spend a lot of pre-trip time with emails, Skype, etc. I probably spent 40 hours contacting these girls prior to my trip.
I am not sure I will do it again. I have made plans to see several of these girls again, so I may just leave it at that.
P4P / SW's:
I don't know why, but the best services I seem to get are from street workers. If you pre-interview, most will do just about anything at a decent price.
I picked up 4 in Pattaya off Beach Road. 2 were ST for 500. The other 2 were LT for 1000.
I also took 3 from BKK near NANA. All were 1k ST and all gave great service. Rim jobs, DFK, BBBJ, whatever I wanted.
GOGO's:
Ok, I usually hate these places. I have to admit I went into a few and had a decent time. I did not take any girls from these places. But to pass the time and have a drink, it can be fun and entertaining.
Night Clubs:
I hit up Lucifer's and Insomnia in Pattaya. I have never been a fan of these places either. But again, I have to admit I had a good time. There are many, many, decent looking girls. More girls than guys when I went. The music was very good even for an old dude like me.
There are many drunk girls there who want to kiss and have you rub their tits. Even a guy my age (57) did so on several occasions with numerous cute girls. I got a few phone numbers but did not take a girl. It would be easy however to do so.
MP's:
I hit up Soi 11, Lolipop's and Dr, BJ. Also, across from Hillary bar on Nana, there is an alley where 3 or 4 girls sit with a massage sign. If you take one, they escort you to an apartment down the alley. I took 2 different girls here, and got stellar service. I think they are really just FL's, sharing the apartment.
Patpong:
Damn. I use to hate this place. Is it seeing a revival? I went last weekend and the place was very busy. All the bars, restaurants and Gogo's were packed. It was not like that last year. It was much much busier than Nana. I had a good time walking around and went into a few Gogo's for drinks only. I think next trip I may spend a little more time here.
Many Japanese men in groups in the Gogo's selecting girls.
Like I said, it was an awesome trip.
I shot my wad 19 times in 10 days. Not my record (21) but maybe I am slowing down at my age. I will be back in January for more fun.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1343248]I am back in USA after my 10 day trip. I won't bore you with all the details. But, this may be the best trip I have ever had. The pussy was stellar with just one bad experience.[/QUOTE]Nice trip report!
Trip reports are good!
Please write more trip reports.
Nice report!
What does TLL stand for?
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1343248]I am back in USA after my 10 day trip. I won't bore you with all the details. But, this may be the best trip I have ever had. The pussy was stellar with just one bad experience.
Here are some highlights...[/QUOTE]
Use the abbreviations tab if one does not know.
TLL = THAILAND LOVE LINKS.
Lined up a few from there when I hit BKK in 9 days.
[QUOTE=Lars 59; 1343488]Nice report!
What does TLL stand for?[/QUOTE]
"A crackdown on motorists who drive the wrong way down a one-way street is now under-way around Chonburi Province and for those who are caught a maximum jail sentence of 6 months can be imposed."
[url]http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/580855-crackdown-on-wrong-way-drivers-in-pattaya-who-could-face-prison-if-caught/[/url]
"I have seen first hand when police falsely claim traffic offense, in other words you can go to jail for just driving legally, and be fined."
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1343248]I think the dating site approach is OK. But you really need to spend a lot of pre-trip time with emails, Skype, etc. I probably spent 40 hours contacting these girls prior to my trip.[/QUOTE]You had 5 girls in 10 days and did a lot more in travelling and P4P. So my guess is you didn't have time to see any of the non P4P chicks more than once? What story did you tell them, I wonder? All this preparation and talks, and then you just fucked them once and disappeared? I'm wondering how you explained this and how they reacted.
In my opinion, it doesn't sound worth it. 40 hours invested for 5 girls when you can get 5 gogo girls for around 10, 000 bhats short time (1500 ST+ 600 barfine x 5) without any headaches. I think dating sites only make sense for Thailand residents.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1344462]"A crackdown on motorists who drive the wrong way down a one-way street is now under-way around Chonburi Province and for those who are caught a maximum jail sentence of 6 months can be imposed."
[url]http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/580855-crackdown-on-wrong-way-drivers-in-pattaya-who-could-face-prison-if-caught/[/url]
"I have seen first hand when police falsely claim traffic offense, in other words you can go to jail for just driving legally, and be fined."[/QUOTE]This must be a joke? Red bull heir kills cop on motorbike because he was high on crack, then drives off hit and run goes home and gets someone else to take the fall, now refuses to show up for court and they actually have the nerve to come up with something stupid like this since they can't seem or want to enforce any of the driving laws already on the books.
Another stupid f-k dress in brown!
LBM
[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1345406]You had 5 girls in 10 days and did a lot more in travelling and P4P. So my guess is you didn't have time to see any of the non P4P chicks more than once? What story did you tell them, I wonder? All this preparation and talks, and then you just fucked them once and disappeared? I'm wondering how you explained this and how they reacted.
In my opinion, it doesn't sound worth it. 40 hours invested for 5 girls when you can get 5 gogo girls for around 10, 000 bhats short time (1500 ST+ 600 barfine x 5) without any headaches. I think dating sites only make sense for Thailand residents.[/QUOTE]I do not disagree with you. I just wanted to try something different. It was quite the investment of time.
I told them ahead, my time with them was limited. So no problems with ST meetings.
I spent a lot of time online beforehand. Skype, etc. So, all the "get to know BS" was done with.
It is just an alternative to straight P4P. Also, you never know. Maybe the perfect girl will come along and take you out of the game. :)
Be careful re your baggage when entering "so you want to boom" airport.
One time I came in & was looking for my luggage going around on the conveyer belt. Couldn't find it on there. Noticed some Thai airport employee taking suitcases off of it at one end. I wonder what he was going to do with them or where he was going to take them.
No wonder I couldn't find my suitcase. This guy had taken it off!
I need to rent a van for a day or two. Can anyone recommend a good one with a driver who can reasonably converse in English (broken English is ok). Say about B1500 per day. Please PM me, if you can help. Will be in BKK 1st week of December.
Much appreciated.
Duni
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1347237]Be careful re your baggage when entering "so you want to boom" airport.
One time I came in & was looking for my luggage going around on the conveyer belt. Couldn't find it on there. Noticed some Thai airport employee taking suitcases off of it at one end. I wonder what he was going to do with them or where he was going to take them.
No wonder I couldn't find my suitcase. This guy had taken it off![/QUOTE]They just take it off the belt to make room or to make ready for the next flight. They don't take it anywhere unless you fail to show up in 3-4 hrs. Then they take it to the airline office.
My motto for Bangkok:
Lick it.
Eat it.
Fuck it.
Cum inside it.
Watch it drip out!
Have a nice day everyone.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1347391]They just take it off the belt to make room or to make ready for the next flight. They don't take it anywhere unless you fail to show up in 3-4 hrs. Then they take it to the airline office.[/QUOTE]Correct, it happens in a lot of airports. In some (like Guarulhos / San Paulo in Brazil) they take off ALL bags at the end of the loop, otherwise some belts can't accommodate the luggage of a full wide body aircraft.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1347430]My motto for Bangkok: Lick it. Eat it. Fuck it. Cum inside it. Watch it drip out!
Have a nice day everyone.[/QUOTE]As long as you are the first of the day. Unless you are a sloppy second fan.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1347390]I need to rent a van for a day or two. Can anyone recommend a good one with a driver who can reasonably converse in English (broken English is ok). Say about B1500 per day. Please PM me, if you can help. Will be in BKK 1st week of December.Much appreciated.Duni[/QUOTE]Anything is possible but I doubt at that rate. Depends also how many seats and what kind of van you are looking for. Transport van or passenger van?
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1347430]My motto for Bangkok:
Lick it.
Eat it.
Fuck it.
Cum inside it.
Watch it drip out![/QUOTE]Go to hospital.
Find out I have AIDS.
Die a painful death.
Enjoy everyone!
Might be able to get a Songtaow for that amount.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1347457]Anything is possible but I doubt at that rate. Depends also how many seats and what kind of van you are looking for. Transport van or passenger van?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1347504]Go to hospital.
Find out I have AIDS.
Die a painful death.
Enjoy everyone![/QUOTE]Good point. You claim to have bargirl GF. I hope you got her tested to make sure she was clean with the 1000 dudes she screwed before you.
Hi guys,
I'm looking for some decent accomodation in jan13, for around a week somewhere clean and quiet and most important girl friendly, I've got around a week there, budget is around 1000-1500 bht per night, I'm sorted for samui, and Pattaya and Phnom penh, just need a decent place in patong beach would consider Kata / Karon.
Thanks guys.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ;1350954]Perhaps I didn't explain myself properly. I was attempting to draw attention to people who complain about the difference between paying 1, 500 baht and 2, 000 by demonstrating that we should be thankful we get, on average. 2 hours for 2, 000 baht. Unlike U. K prices where this guy paid almost 6, 000 baht for one hour.[/QUOTE]IMO Thai P4P ladies are also better looking & provide superior service & attitude.
In Canada it's even more expensive than that UK price.
It only takes a short trip to Siam to cover the cost of one's airfare from savings with Thai P4P gals as compared to what one would have paid sex workers in much of the Western world.
Stay longer or live in the Kingdom and it's all gravy. Over the years a guy who's a regular pooner could save a fortune compared to what he would have paid for P4P in many other countries.
Have you been vaccinated for rabies?
"The disease is zoonotic, meaning it can be transmitted from one species to another, such as from dogs to humans, commonly by a bite from an infected animal. For a human, rabies is almost invariably fatal if postexposure prophylaxis is not administered prior to the onset of severe symptoms. The rabies virus infects the central nervous system, ultimately causing disease in the brain and death."
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabies[/url]
Around NEP in Bangkok, for example, at times I've seen skinny, apparently malnourished stray dogs & cats, who are alone & therefore seeming to be without a master.
"Rabies vaccine is recommended for travelers spending a lot of time outdoors, for travelers at high risk for animal bites, such as veterinarians and animal handlers, for long-term travelers and expatriates, and for travelers involved in any activities that might bring them into direct contact with bats."
". In Thailand, the chief risk is from dog bites, though cases from cat bites are also reported. A complete preexposure series consists of three doses of vaccine injected into the deltoid muscle on days 0, 7, and 21 or 28. Side-effects may include pain at the injection site, headache, nausea, abdominal pain, muscle aches, dizziness, or allergic reactions.
"Any animal bite or scratch should be thoroughly cleaned with large amounts of soap and water and local health authorities should be contacted immediately for possible post-exposure treatment, whether or not the person has been immunized against rabies."
[url]http://www.mdtravelhealth.com/destinations/asia/thailand.php[/url]
"Although dog bites are a common cause of rabies in developing countries, there have been no reports of rabies caused by dog bites in the United States for a number of years due to widespread animal vaccination."
[url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0002310/[/url]
For Thai cusine like curries, pad thai, fried rice and soups, any recommendations near Soi 11 where local folks dine? Restaurants or street vendors near by like Soi 5 or 7 are in the general location as well are welcome recommendations. Some folks have mentioned that some bars / pubs near the area also serve good thai food. Would like to hear your experiences and recommendations.
[QUOTE=Rodwint2;1353854]For Thai cusine like curries, pad thai, fried rice and soups, any recommendations near Soi 11 where local folks dine? Restaurants or street vendors near by like Soi 5 or 7 are in the general location as well are welcome recommendations. Some folks have mentioned that some bars / pubs near the area also serve good thai food. Would like to hear your experiences and recommendations.[/QUOTE]In that area, I think the outdoor Seafood place across from BG7 still serves superior Thai Food. Soi 11 has many street vendors (they are the ones with the best food).
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1353868]In that area, I think the outdoor Seafood place across from BG7 still serves superior Thai Food. Soi 11 has many street vendors (they are the ones with the best food).[/QUOTE]Beeing not a fan of Thaifood myself I still join many of my Thaihoneys to eat and they like the vendours in Soi 11. I can also see by just walking the streets from early afternoon to early morning that there are many people eating / ordering and I know I learned a saying once: eat where the locals do or where it is busy.
I can on occation have some pork / chicken on a stick (well done) from vendours as a early eve snack.
Otherwice Illys in Soi 8 have great food and the Mexican place in Soi 12 also are nice.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1353216]Have you been vaccinated for rabies?[/QUOTE]Are you selling vaccines? I mean, this might be the general section, but lecturing on rabies vaccine seems to me a bit over the border. There are also monkeys around in Thailand. are you aware? History says that AIDS come from them.
I don't know whether from a bite or from sex with a monkey. I leave this to you to think about.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1353868]In that area, I think the outdoor Seafood place across from BG7 still serves superior Thai Food. Soi 11 has many street vendors (they are the ones with the best food).[/QUOTE]After a couple of beers at the BG, getting fondled by nice young ladies* and deciding to eat, go across the road and have fish, steamed or fried. Look for the fish with bright eyes!
With firm flesh (like selecting an FL). I eat there at least twice a week when I am in BKK.
Thanks to Skogis, NicFrenchy and Scorchin for their Thai cuisine recommendations. I will definitely look at those venues.
On another topic, I was looking at doing some shopping for specific clothing and was interested in finding out if there was any individual or tour company that provides a private shopper / guide to meet my specific requests. In the past, I have wandered around the Pratunam district and the MBK mall, but found it to be so vast that it would take many days to go through all those venues to find what I want. So I was wondering if there is a tour guide or private shopping guide that specializes in such a service as to find specific items.
What I am looking for are the same collared shirts and golf shirts that normally have the Polo labels on them. I want the same shirts, but with out any logos on them. I find that the shirts are generally very good quality, but I don't want to be worried about the logo police nor do I want to be pretentious wearing logos.
Thanks for any recommendations you may have to this issue.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1353904]the Mexican place in Soi 12 also are nice.[/QUOTE]Is that place open again? Ended up at the foodcourt around the corner when those baggers did not update their website and the place was closed for a long renovation but it all in all looked more as a bankrupth andn devastated place. I think this was about 6 months ago and have never been back. Just went to the Mexican in Soi 11 sub, around the corner of Cheap Charley.
[QUOTE=Rodwint2; 1354442]snip.
What I am looking for are the same collared shirts and golf shirts that normally have the Polo labels on them. I want the same shirts, but with out any logos on them. I find that the shirts are generally very good quality, but I don't want to be worried about the logo police nor do I want to be pretentious wearing logos.
Thanks for any recommendations you may have to this issue.[/QUOTE]I have seen the type of shirt that you are looking for and it is not in any retail shop. It's in an area that would be considered a "garment district" and sold by shops that want to adorn the plain shirt for you with embroidery or whatever. Like for a sports team and usually selling in quantity. But if you can find this area, you've got it nailed. Sorry to be so vague. I did not know where I was at the time. As for a guide, I've seen ads on CL for private tour guides and perhaps one of them could solve this. Maybe a bar girl could too but they are less likely to know about this "insider knowledge"
Hope that helps.
[QUOTE=Rodwint2;1354442]On another topic, I was looking at doing some shopping for specific clothing and was interested in finding out if there was any individual or tour company that provides a private shopper / guide to meet my specific requests. In the past, I have wandered around the Pratunam district and the MBK mall, but found it to be so vast that it would take many days to go through all those venues to find what I want. So I was wondering if there is a tour guide or private shopping guide that specializes in such a service as to find specific items.[/QUOTE]Just about any Bargirl will do the trick. Just take your girl Shopping and not only she will help you find what you are looking for, she will also negotiate price and ensure you don't get ripped off. Buy her a few things (Make-up, shoes) all for 1, 000 thb. She will be over the moon.
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai; 1354488]I have seen the type of shirt that you are looking for and it is not in any retail shop. It's in an area that would be considered a "garment district" and sold by shops that want to adorn the plain shirt for you with embroidery or whatever. Like for a sports team and usually selling in quantity. But if you can find this area, you've got it nailed. Sorry to be so vague. I did not know where I was at the time. As for a guide, I've seen ads on CL for private tour guides and perhaps one of them could solve this. Maybe a bar girl could too but they are less likely to know about this "insider knowledge"
Hope that helps.[/QUOTE]Crazy,
Thanks for the information. I remember finding something like that in the Pratunam area near what is now the Indra Regent Hotel many years ago. The Pratunam market is a single level market place on street level at the corner of Petchburi and Rajaprarop. It is across the street from the Platinum Mall that is a highrise complex of wholesalers and retailers.
By any chance, do you remember if the shops you saw were in a high rise building or a single, street level market place (like a bazaar setting)? Thanks to you and NicFrenchy for the bargirl suggestion, except I don't do bars.
[QUOTE=Rodwint2;1353854]For Thai cusine like curries, pad thai, fried rice and soups, any recommendations near Soi 11 where local folks dine? Restaurants or street vendors near by like Soi 5 or 7 are in the general location as well are welcome recommendations. Some folks have mentioned that some bars / pubs near the area also serve good thai food. Would like to hear your experiences and recommendations.[/QUOTE]Don't remember the name of the place but it is downstairs in the Time Square Building on Soi 12. Small place with maybe 7 to 10 tables. Great service and the food is wonderful. Have taken many bar girls there and they all rave about it.
Good luck
[QUOTE=Titanio;1354453]Is that place open again? Ended up at the foodcourt around the corner when those baggers did not update their website and the place was closed for a long renovation but it all in all looked more as a bankrupth andn devastated place. I think this was about 6 months ago and have never been back. Just went to the Mexican in Soi 11 sub, around the corner of Cheap Charley.[/QUOTE]Haven`t been eating there since this January so maby you are right. If I have time I may go for a stroll to check it out later. So sorry for not updated info
[QUOTE=Titanio;1354453]Is that place open again? Ended up at the foodcourt around the corner when those baggers did not update their website and the place was closed for a long renovation but it all in all looked more as a bankrupth andn devastated place. I think this was about 6 months ago and have never been back. Just went to the Mexican in Soi 11 sub, around the corner of Cheap Charley.[/QUOTE]I was there today and in Soi 12 the Mexican was running like hell. Did not eat there but went for a stroll from exercise purposes (as I did have a night without bridebanging)
[QUOTE=Rodwint2; 1354442]Thanks to Skogis, NicFrenchy and Scorchin for their Thai cuisine recommendations. I will definitely look at those venues.
On another topic, I was looking at doing some shopping for specific clothing and was interested in finding out if there was any individual or tour company that provides a private shopper / guide to meet my specific requests. In the past, I have wandered around the Pratunam district and the MBK mall, but found it to be so vast that it would take many days to go through all those venues to find what I want. So I was wondering if there is a tour guide or private shopping guide that specializes in such a service as to find specific items.
What I am looking for are the same collared shirts and golf shirts that normally have the Polo labels on them. I want the same shirts, but with out any logos on them. I find that the shirts are generally very good quality, but I don't want to be worried about the logo police nor do I want to be pretentious wearing logos.
Thanks for any recommendations you may have to this issue.[/QUOTE]You may want to try Bo Bae Tower near Chinatown. It is about 1000 wholesale garment merchants in one building. I bought several shirts just like you are looking for. They were very high quality and they have sizes to fit even an extremely large farang so sizing should be no problem. Even if you don't speak Thai, you can still bargain using the Universal Translator (calculator)
Thank you for your suggestion.
To all who want to understand Thailand a bit more. This is a must read.
[URL]http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Long-Live-our-Guardian-30195626.html[/URL]
Let's call it: "Thailands trinity: Hegel, Phra Siam Thevathiraj and Thaksin Shinawatra".
Who wrote the piece? Thanong Khanthong, managing editor at Nation Multimedia Group. A man well known for his balanced political views, obviously also specialized in Buddhism and Hegelian Dialectics.
Giotto
I have a few days free sex on offer from Girl that I was keen on 20 years ago. The problem is her face is not so pretty as before and body not so sexy. She has put on a few kilos and is currently in mid 50s (Kg or more). She smokes daily since many years and so mouth is a bit like an ash tray to me. Stinky brand of cigarettes too. Kissing is therefore out of the question. Pussy is a trimmed but I am still not used to a lot of hair down there.
Fortunately she does a good blow job and therefore I can get it up and perform. I do my duty and give her a good DATY. She was sex starved and so orgasmed many times on first sex session. It feels like I am just doing my duty. I could take it or leave it just as easily. I am not equally sex starved as her.
What is my point? Well we all get spoiled by screwing young hot sexy P4P girls. So when I am with a typical Thai girl, Bpum Bpui (slightly over weight) , only 11 years younger than me, I am not real excited by chance to have sex as often as I like. Unfortunately I am pre-programmed to like girls with slim (Gazelles) to slightly voluptuous physique, but not more.
Can't wait to get back to see a real super hotty. I do have regular girls who are very sexy, but have to admit they are all somewhat younger.
The oldest girl I have been with recently who was still in great very sexy physical shape was still less than 40 year old.
I noticed this in BKK but really much more in Pattaya.
Guys alone. Many many of them. Day after day.
They appear to me to be residents. I am curious as to why?
If I lived in these places I think I would have a lady with me at all times. Maybe a different one each month.
Maybe they are tired of the money grabbing? Maybe they have no money left because she took it all?
Just seemed a bit odd considering the environment.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1358713]I noticed this in BKK but really much more in Pattaya.
Guys alone. Many many of them. Day after day.
They appear to me to be residents. I am curious as to why?
If I lived in these places I think I would have a lady with me at all times. Maybe a different one each month.
Maybe they are tired of the money grabbing? Maybe they have no money left because she took it all?
Just seemed a bit odd considering the environment.[/QUOTE]You could always quench your curiosity and ask them LOL.
Actually it gets boring hanging out with these Thai girls after more than a few days. Who knows why. Could be they have a gf but they just happen to not be with them at that time. Or they just a player, but enjoy solitude over hanging out with prostitutes / normal girls. Or they might just be a loser and have certain traits that repel girls LOL. To be frank, there are quite a few wierdo farangs in Thailand..
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1358713]Guys alone. Many many of them. Day after day.[/QUOTE]I am not really sure what you expect as an answer here, as you are asking guys in the forum to explain the behavior of some 30 other guys you oddly found alone in Thailand?
Which areas did you see this happen? Regular or hookers areas? Or Tourist joints? What age bracket?
I've been here 8 years and would not seriously date any Thai girl. Why? Because of the drama that comes with living with a Thai girl. Tourists will never understand this (neither will sponsors).
Best is to get a Gik and not a gf. Or go see a hooker and get your rocks off.
Being around Thais isn't all that great anyway, unless all you want to talk about is food and "children like conversation". Harsh words, but unfortunately true.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1358713]I noticed this in BKK but really much more in Pattaya.
Guys alone. Many many of them. Day after day.
They appear to me to be residents. I am curious as to why?
If I lived in these places I think I would have a lady with me at all times. Maybe a different one each month.
Maybe they are tired of the money grabbing? Maybe they have no money left because she took it all?
Just seemed a bit odd considering the environment.[/QUOTE]I think another factor is about keeping options open for just mongering. Hook up with someone and be accountable for every move. It's better for many to just have the variety when the need is there.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1358713]I noticed this in BKK but really much more in Pattaya.
Guys alone. Many many of them. Day after day.
They appear to me to be residents. I am curious as to why?
If I lived in these places I think I would have a lady with me at all times. Maybe a different one each month.
Maybe they are tired of the money grabbing? Maybe they have no money left because she took it all?
Just seemed a bit odd considering the environment.[/QUOTE]Saturday morning I was in a hotel, in Pattaya, walking down the hallway. In one of the rooms a Thai chick was shouting, at the top of her lungs, in English. That alone is a good reason why guys stay alone and just pay as you go."you con dio, sabai sabai" "Stay alone very nice."
I AM one of those be it alone farangs. When I want my space I want it. I do not want to deal with taking care of some chick that has her own ideas of what my day should be. And only her ideas. SO I'll go it alone and enjoy the 'variety is the spice of life' in my world.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1358713]I noticed this in BKK but really much more in Pattaya.
Guys alone. Many many of them. Day after day.
SNIPPED.
Just seemed a bit odd considering the environment.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1358713]I noticed this in BKK but really much more in Pattaya.
Guys alone. Many many of them. Day after day.
They appear to me to be residents. I am curious as to why?
If I lived in these places I think I would have a lady with me at all times. Maybe a different one each month.
Maybe they are tired of the money grabbing? Maybe they have no money left because she took it all?
Just seemed a bit odd considering the environment.[/QUOTE]When you live on a ranch eating a steak is your last concern. I go out every blue moon. Usually when friends are in town and even then it's not until 3 or 4 am because I generally lie down to take a nap and end up not being able to get up the rest of the night. But say I do happen to go out and get something for the night then we may wake up at 11am or so. Then I have to run errands and shit so I give her her 1000 baht and let her go or either I give her a ride to her room if it is close to where I am going.
When night rolls around it's the same routine unless one of my non-pros is over. They may come about 6pm or so (whatever time they get off work) and we go get something to eat and go catch a movie or whatever then it is back home and in the bed by 10. At 6 or 7am they are getting up to go to work. So there I am alone again and able to do the things I need to do and relax as well. It's normal living. I live off Third Road and many times visitors ask me why I don't live closer to Walking Street. Who really wants to live inside of the party? It's only a 5 minute motorbike ride away if I need it. I had enough late night noise when I was only a visitor staying at the Sunshine and Eastiny on Soi 8. There is a reason the Hotels on and off Walking Street are the cheapest in Pattaya.
There is a difference in vacationing and living somewhere. When my cousin moved to Pattaya I had to jump in his shit for acting as a vacationer would. You would not ask a person living in Orlando why they do not go to Disney World everyday would you?
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1358713]I noticed this in BKK but really much more in Pattaya.
Guys alone. Many many of them. Day after day.
They appear to me to be residents. I am curious as to why?
If I lived in these places I think I would have a lady with me at all times. Maybe a different one each month.
Maybe they are tired of the money grabbing? Maybe they have no money left because she took it all?
Just seemed a bit odd considering the environment.[/QUOTE]Well, Mr. Luvpuss, I happen to be one of those 'resident' guys you are so curious about. Guess I just don't love puss as much as you do and don't need a new one on my arm every month to be with me 24/7 driving me nuts. I'm much happier alone. I'm free.
Fact is I'm retired, have plenty of money, and love being alone 99% of the time. It makes me happy. You see, I have a life and I like spending it exactly the way I want doing as I please. I'm never bored. I have lots of interesting things to do and I don't want my attention interrupted by a Thai bimbo who wants money for her family. Instead I have a dog. If you want a true friend, you should get one.
Young girls are calling me almost every day wanting to come service me for a fee and when I'm satisfied they leave which is exactly what I want them to do. I have nothing in common with them intellectually so I just enjoy their company for as long as I like and then send them on their way. I seldom call them. When I come across a new one who pleases me she is added to the list of regulars. I don't socialize with them. I fuck them and send them away.
Some of us just don't need female company 'at all times. ' That is not at all 'odd considering the environment. ' Being alone is far and away the best way to enjoy the delights of Thailand.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1358740]I am not really sure what you expect as an answer here, as you are asking guys in the forum to explain the behavior of some 30 other guys you oddly found alone in Thailand? Being around Thais isn't all that great anyway, unless all you want to talk about is food and "children like conversation". Harsh words, but unfortunately true.[/QUOTE]Very true, but this reminds me last time I went to Nana's Hotel MP and caught by a thunderstorm. So parked myself in the lobby: surrounded by old farangs (not that I am a prime young boy) I felt like being in a Jurassic park. Was not much about the age (a fact of life) but rather the look, the talks one had with another. Seemed like a veteran reunion reminding how they fight the enemy in a combat mission. Young can see quite some of these at the rails of the bars facing NEP entrance. I recall one guy was sitting there all day long. I thought he could be the owner of the bar at some point, but his image did not fit much with that. Lonely hearts or lonely hobos! Or simply had enough ex Thai wifes so that now they know the value of being alone? On the other hand when you see some "much assorted" couples, you wonder what is the bond that keeps them together.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1358819]On the other hand when you see some "much assorted" couples, you wonder what is the bond that keeps them together.[/QUOTE]Much like Daddy07, I love being alone. I don't need to go out or be socializing, I do enough of that at work. I am happy an dnever bored being alone and I have a lot more fun than being with a Thai lady.
Assorted couples in Thailand are simple: one wants sex, the other wants money / security.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1358842]Assorted couples in Thailand are simple: one wants sex, the other wants money / security.[/QUOTE]I may not be the most objective (having a Thai GF, but not living with her), but I think it is more "one wants care and sex, the other wants security and sex."
OK.
You guys bring up some good points.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1359001]OK.
You guys bring up some good points.
Thanks[/QUOTE]I think you answered your own question.
Clearly their TGF's got sick of all their farang talk so sweetly suggested they "go watch football at bar" while they cook and clean (code for play games on PC, Facebook, gossip, watch soaps & nap. BTW no use for a farang to do all that).
To sum up all the responses to your query:
"I have always been a loner, since childhood, loved to play peacefully in my room with Barbies."
[url]http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060909150819AAvPzrE[/url]
Went to a festival event recently in Pak Thong Chai district (in Khorat province). There were essentially no farangs there. Saw just one other. In all the hundreds of Thai girls walking around, only about two were worth a second glance. Yet in Bangkok, in the right areas, very nice looking girls can be seen regularly. Even the gogo bars have some nice looking Isaan girls.
So is it just the Baan Nork (up country) areas of Khorat have incredibily ordinary girls, or have all the good looking ones gone somewhere else and are highly depleted? Maybe Ubon and Sisaket and Surin girls look better than Khorat and Buri Ram?
I am still a bit perplexed. What I see, seems contrary to the idea that all the great looking girls are taken by the Thais, leaving only the dregs for the Farangs. When it comes to Isaan girls, the concept doesn't seem to apply. I don't see tht the Isaan girls with Thai husbands are better looking than the Isaan girls in the bars. It is true that westerners are seen with incredibly plain Isaan girls at times, with good hearts (or just having to take whoever is available).
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1358769]Well, Mr. Luvpuss, I happen to be one of those 'resident' guys you are so curious about. Guess I just don't love puss as much as you do and don't need a new one on my arm every month to be with me 24/7 driving me nuts. I'm much happier alone. I'm free.
Fact is I'm retired, have plenty of money, and love being alone 99% of the time. It makes me happy. You see, I have a life and I like spending it exactly the way I want doing as I please. I'm never bored. I have lots of interesting things to do and I don't want my attention interrupted by a Thai bimbo who wants money for her family. Instead I have a dog. If you want a true friend, you should get one.
Young girls are calling me almost every day wanting to come service me for a fee and when I'm satisfied they leave which is exactly what I want them to do. I have nothing in common with them intellectually so I just enjoy their company for as long as I like and then send them on their way. I seldom call them. When I come across a new one who pleases me she is added to the list of regulars. I don't socialize with them. I fuck them and send them away.
Some of us just don't need female company 'at all times. ' That is not at all 'odd considering the environment. ' Being alone is far and away the best way to enjoy the delights of Thailand.[/QUOTE]Then why do you live in 'sleeze central'?
There are dozens of places in LOS that are far nicer with available sex, this being Thailand after all. And for that matter plenty of countries that would actually embrace foreigners with sex also available, good weather – and since you probably don't speak much Thai whats the attraction. Or are you just shackled by your co-op / condo? Sounds like Frenchie still need to work so he has no choice but to endure life in the LOS but my one visit to Patts was enough for my lifetime so I'm really curious as to why you stay.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1361638]Went to a festival event recently in Pak Thong Chai district (in Khorat province). There were essentially no farangs there. Saw just one other. In all the hundreds of Thai girls walking around, only about two were worth a second glance. Yet in Bangkok, in the right areas, very nice looking girls can be seen regularly. Even the gogo bars have some nice looking Isaan girls.
So is it just the Baan Nork (up country) areas of Khorat have incredibily ordinary girls, or have all the good looking ones gone somewhere else and are highly depleted? Maybe Ubon and Sisaket and Surin girls look better than Khorat and Buri Ram?
I am still a bit perplexed. What I see, seems contrary to the idea that all the great looking girls are taken by the Thais, leaving only the dregs for the Farangs. When it comes to Isaan girls, the concept doesn't seem to apply. I don't see tht the Isaan girls with Thai husbands are better looking than the Isaan girls in the bars. It is true that westerners are seen with incredibly plain Isaan girls at times, with good hearts (or just having to take whoever is available).[/QUOTE]IMHO, that seems to be the case in most mongering countrys. The bigger cities seem to have the better looking whor*es because the city automatically demands more money.
Same for Manila vs Subic, I could go on and on. Just like the older hags venture from Walking St. To Beer bar to Beach Road. As they age. Just my opinion.
[QUOTE=Naked Gunz; 1361727]IMHO, that seems to be the case in most mongering countrys. The bigger cities seem to have the better looking whor*es because the city automatically demands more money.
Same for Manila vs Subic, I could go on and on. Just like the older hags venture from Walking St. To Beer bar to Beach Road. As they age. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]My fishpond sample was the general populace in a country town. I don't think many of them would be hookers. If they were they certainly hid it well. 99. 5% looked very ordinary.
It could be that good looking girls are pulled to the big city though.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1358740]I am not really sure what you expect as an answer here, as you are asking guys in the forum to explain the behavior of some 30 other guys you oddly found alone in Thailand?
Which areas did you see this happen? Regular or hookers areas? Or Tourist joints? What age bracket?
I've been here 8 years and would not seriously date any Thai girl. Why? Because of the drama that comes with living with a Thai girl. Tourists will never understand this (neither will sponsors).
Best is to get a Gik and not a gf. Or go see a hooker and get your rocks off.
Being around Thais isn't all that great anyway, unless all you want to talk about is food and "children like conversation". Harsh words, but unfortunately true.[/QUOTE]Obviously it is hard to compare your experience with mine as I've never lived in Thailand full time. However, I would disagree with you based on my experience. I think you are right when dating and socializing outside of your socioeconomic group. I may be proven wrong someday, but when I think about the Thais that I socialize with who have studied abroad and / or are more financially secure, I think it isn't as bad as you portray.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1361638]Went to a festival event recently in Pak Thong Chai district (in Khorat province). There were essentially no farangs there. Saw just one other. In all the hundreds of Thai girls walking around, only about two were worth a second glance. Yet in Bangkok, in the right areas, very nice looking girls can be seen regularly. Even the gogo bars have some nice looking Isaan girls.[/QUOTE]I have noticed this same phenomenon in Brazil. In Rio you will see countless extraordinary women. Your head will be turning every second when you walk down the street. But then when you go to other cities within the country it will not be the same. As you said most of the women will be just normal or even subnormal, which left me thinking where in the hell did Brazil go. As you replied to NG, this is not in reference to the hooker population, but the population in general.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1361638]I am still a bit perplexed. What I see, seems contrary to the idea that all the great looking girls are taken by the Thais, leaving only the dregs for the Farangs. When it comes to Isaan girls, the concept doesn't seem to apply. I don't see tht the Isaan girls with Thai husbands are better looking than the Isaan girls in the bars.[/QUOTE]
Syzygies, the point was that the better looking younger girls are taken by the Thais [i]in the Thai-oriented sex industry[/i], mostly for the use of rich and middle class Thais, not married to some poor working class guy or farmer.
Just last week I was out in Bang Kapi, and happened purely by chance upon a soi full of kareokes (I think it was Seri Thai Soi 3, but if not just a few sois in either direction on Seri Thai). I didn't partake but I took a good long look at the girls and chatted with the local motorbike taxi men - the girls looked great, far better than anything you'd find in any cheaper farang venue like a beer bar - maybe about the equivalent of a Pattaya Go-Go. But, the main thing was they were younger - all around 18-23. The taxi men said 'its cheap - 500 would be no problem for a Thai, maybe 1000 for a farang'. Of course no doubt there would be a few hundred in other charges added on - drinks, room, possibly some kind of bar fine - but in any case no more expensive than the farang zones and much younger and better looking.
[QUOTE=Opebo;1361871]But, the main thing was they were younger - all around 18-23. The taxi men said 'its cheap - 500 would be no problem for a Thai, maybe 1000 for a farang'. Of course no doubt there would be a few hundred in other charges added on - drinks, room, possibly some kind of bar fine - but in any case no more expensive than the farang zones and much younger and better looking.[/QUOTE]But most likely they will not speak English and although I will not choose a girl to discuss the intricacies of Quantum Physics with her, still some contact is nice, if only to easily direct her to do what I want.
[QUOTE=Rjsss212; 1361694]Then why do you live in 'sleeze central'?
There are dozens of places in LOS that are far nicer with available sex, this being Thailand after all. And for that matter plenty of countries that would actually embrace foreigners with sex also available, good weather – and since you probably don't speak much Thai whats the attraction. Or are you just shackled by your co-op / condo? Sounds like Frenchie still need to work so he has no choice but to endure life in the LOS but my one visit to Patts was enough for my lifetime so I'm really curious as to why you stay.[/QUOTE]The short answer is that I like it here. Everything is cheap. I have all the amenities. The "sleeze" area is 8 Km from my condo.
Sorry you don't like the place. I'm sure you know all about it after one visit. There's a lot more to like here than just sex.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1361638]Went to a festival event recently in Pak Thong Chai district (in Khorat province). There were essentially no farangs there. Saw just one other. In all the hundreds of Thai girls walking around, only about two were worth a second glance. Yet in Bangkok, in the right areas, very nice looking girls can be seen regularly. Even the gogo bars have some nice looking Isaan girls.
So is it just the Baan Nork (up country) areas of Khorat have incredibily ordinary girls, or have all the good looking ones gone somewhere else and are highly depleted? Maybe Ubon and Sisaket and Surin girls look better than Khorat and Buri Ram?
I am still a bit perplexed. What I see, seems contrary to the idea that all the great looking girls are taken by the Thais, leaving only the dregs for the Farangs. When it comes to Isaan girls, the concept doesn't seem to apply. I don't see tht the Isaan girls with Thai husbands are better looking than the Isaan girls in the bars. It is true that westerners are seen with incredibly plain Isaan girls at times, with good hearts (or just having to take whoever is available).[/QUOTE]This, I have to agree with you on.
Most of the Thai girls with farang seem very plain to me. I am talking the ones in LT relations or marriages with farang.
Why go to Thailand and wed a fat, not attractive, unkempt lady in flip flops with kids? Maybe they use to be a hot Gogo dancer?
Most of the guys I see with these ladies actually look decently dressed and not grossly ugly and obviously are paying the bills.
I cannot figure it out.
I thought this was funny and interesting.
[url]http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2012/09/police-bust-ends-free-sex-after-nine-car-washes/1?csp=ip[/url]
Are there car washes in Bangkok?
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1361918]This, I have to agree with you on.
Most of the Thai girls with farang seem very plain to me. I am talking the ones in LT relations or marriages with farang.
Why go to Thailand and wed a fat, not attractive, unkempt lady in flip flops with kids? Maybe they use to be a hot Gogo dancer?
Most of the guys I see with these ladies actually look decently dressed and not grossly ugly and obviously are paying the bills.
I cannot figure it out.[/QUOTE]I you reread what I wrote, It would not appear that you are agreeing at all.
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1358769]Well, Mr. Luvpuss, I happen to be one of those 'resident' guys you are so curious about. Guess I just don't love puss as much as you do and don't need a new one on my arm every month to be with me 24/7 driving me nuts. I'm much happier alone. I'm free.
Fact is I'm retired, have plenty of money, and love being alone 99% of the time. It makes me happy. You see, I have a life and I like spending it exactly the way I want doing as I please. I'm never bored. I have lots of interesting things to do and I don't want my attention interrupted by a Thai bimbo who wants money for her family. Instead I have a dog. If you want a true friend, you should get one.
Young girls are calling me almost every day wanting to come service me for a fee and when I'm satisfied they leave which is exactly what I want them to do. I have nothing in common with them intellectually so I just enjoy their company for as long as I like and then send them on their way. I seldom call them. When I come across a new one who pleases me she is added to the list of regulars. I don't socialize with them. I fuck them and send them away.
Some of us just don't need female company 'at all times. ' That is not at all 'odd considering the environment. ' Being alone is far and away the best way to enjoy the delights of Thailand.[/QUOTE]Loved what you wrote. Very impressed. I'm newly single (if there is such a thing) and enjoying life greatly.
However as I will be retiring in a few short years I'm also looking at both where to retire and how to do it.
And like you, I often enjoy being alone, until I determine theres a night or time when I don't want to be alone.
Thailand is high on the list of places I'm looking at for my golden years.
Your report left a very good impression.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1362851]I you reread what I wrote, It would not appear that you are agreeing at all.[/QUOTE]You finally figured that out.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1362857]Thailand is high on the list of places I'm looking at for my golden years.[/QUOTE]Thailand is on my short list too. In fact I can't think of a place that checks off more boxes. LOS has it all. It can offer an affordable life style along with great food, relative safety, girls, lots of things to do, good condo rentals and location, location, location in South East Asia. Thais do discriminate against foreigners, but compared to a lot of other Asian counties, it is a pretty easy environment to cope with.
PI is cheap enough, but too dangerous / third world for me. I could not see myself living in AC, Manila or Cebu City. Also the cuisine sucks except for fresh seafood. The PI does have great beaches and friendly girls. If I had a Filipina GF (non pro) I might consider living on the beach somewhere otherwise it is only a 3 hour cheap flight from BKK and a good place to visit. I wouldn't want to live there.
Cambodia is an interesting choice and cheap. It has good food and nice girls but maybe too off the grid for semi-permanent residence. I think a Farang would stick out like a sore thumb. Like PI I think it is a nice place to visit, but long term residence is questionable.
HKG is a great town. I would never get bored here, but it is expensive to live here in western style. I also think the Government is trying to clamp down on the bar scene which I see in decline.
Macau has the girls, no question about that, but renting a modern condo is fairly expensive (roughly Miami prices). I think that living here full time would become boring after a while, but the location is great for visiting other Asian destinations.
Singapore is a great choice except that any centrally located apartment / condo I would want to rent would be sky high expensive. Still, the city has a lot to offer in great food and a great assortment of girls.
So that leaves really only one choice: Thailand. The question then is where in Thailand. I think it depends. If single, my choice is BKK. It has everything and I would never get bored here, plus only 90 minutes to Pat and the southern islands. With a Thai GF (non pro) things change and I could see myself living on some island or possibly up north.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1363044]HKG is a great town. I would never get bored here, but it is expensive to live here in western style. I also think the Government is trying to clamp down on the bar scene which I see in decline.
Singapore is a great choice except that any centrally located apartment / condo I would want to rent would be sky high expensive. Still, the city has a lot to offer in great food and a great assortment of girls.
So that leaves really only one choice: Thailand. The question then is where in Thailand. I think it depends. If single, my choice is BKK. It has everything and I would never get bored here, plus only 90 minutes to Pat and the southern islands. With a Thai GF (non pro) things change and I could see myself living on some island or possibly up north.[/QUOTE]Its interesting that you like Hong Kong. I really hated it 30 years ago and never wanted to return. It has awful culture or lack of it. Rubbish everywhere, everyone in such a hurry pushing and shoving, and very curt when speaking, or just plain rude. Gun fights in the streets not considered too strange.
What a contrast Singapore is, or even Thailand for that matter.
Hong Kong would be last on my list. I just don't like the attitudes of the people there.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1363078]Its interesting that you like Hong Kong. I really hated it 30 years ago and never wanted to return. It has awful culture or lack of it. Rubbish everywhere, everyone in such a hurry pushing and shoving, and very curt when speaking, or just plain rude. Gun fights in the streets not considered too strange.
What a contrast Singapore is, or even Thailand for that matter.
Hong Kong would be last on my list. I just don't like the attitudes of the people there.[/QUOTE]You should try Hong Kong again. It has changed alot in 30 years. The place is underated. Stay in Kowloon. Many sauna's, MP's, SW's. It is a mini Bangkok around Temple street. I have been there (and Maucau) in the past year just to monger and had a great time.
Also this:http://s e x 1 4 1 .com/en/
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1363127]You should try Hong Kong again. It has changed alot in 30 years. The place is underated. Stay in Kowloon. Many sauna's, MP's, SW's. It is a mini Bangkok around Temple street. I have been there (and Maucau) in the past year just to monger and had a great time.
Also this:[url]http://s[/url] E x 1 4 1. Com / en/[/QUOTE]Luckily the hotels here in HK are expensive enough that those 5 days want to be millionaires driving prices up in Thailand and the Philippines don't come here because their larger part of the wealth can't be shown off as it would be eaten up by accommodation.
[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1363139]Luckily the hotels here in HK are expensive enough that those 5 days want to be millionaires driving prices up in Thailand and the Philippines don't come here because their larger part of the wealth can't be shown off as it would be eaten up by accommodation.[/QUOTE]OK.
I stay at the Eaton. I have known the manager of the Club lounge for 2 years and get a great rate.
I wonder what some of you do? I always introduce myself to the Manager of the hotels I stay in and get a business card. I try to keep in contact. When it is time to come, I usually get good rates. Or at least an upgrade.
I agree HK is expensive. But I like the place and always have a good time.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1363158]OK.
I stay at the Eaton. I have known the manager of the Club lounge for 2 years and get a great rate.
I wonder what some of you do? I always introduce myself to the Manager of the hotels I stay in and get a business card. I try to keep in contact. When it is time to come, I usually get good rates. Or at least an upgrade.
I agree HK is expensive. But I like the place and always have a good time.[/QUOTE]I am happy with the expensive hotels as I live here and the prices keep many away.
You can get rates around 1000 HK$ sometimes in a budget place, but if there are exhibitions or other events, prices can easily hit 3000 and more.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1362857]I'm newly single[/QUOTE]Occupational hazard, brother Monger?
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1363044]Thailand is on my short list too. In fact I can't think of a place that checks off more boxes. LOS has it all. It can offer an affordable life style along with great food, relative safety, girls, lots of things to do, good condo rentals and location, location, location in South East Asia. Thais do discriminate against foreigners, but compared to a lot of other Asian counties, it is a pretty easy environment to cope with.
PI is cheap enough, but too dangerous / third world for me. I could not see myself living in AC, Manila or Cebu City. Also the cuisine sucks except for fresh seafood. The PI does have great beaches and friendly girls. If I had a Filipina GF (non pro) I might consider living on the beach somewhere otherwise it is only a 3 hour cheap flight from BKK and a good place to visit. I wouldn't want to live there.
Cambodia is an interesting choice and cheap. It has good food and nice girls but maybe too off the grid for semi-permanent residence. I think a Farang would stick out like a sore thumb. Like PI I think it is a nice place to visit, but long term residence is questionable.
HKG is a great town. I would never get bored here, but it is expensive to live here in western style. I also think the Government is trying to clamp down on the bar scene which I see in decline.
Macau has the girls, no question about that, but renting a modern condo is fairly expensive (roughly Miami prices). I think that living here full time would become boring after a while, but the location is great for visiting other Asian destinations.
Singapore is a great choice except that any centrally located apartment / condo I would want to rent would be sky high expensive. Still, the city has a lot to offer in great food and a great assortment of girls.
So that leaves really only one choice: Thailand. The question then is where in Thailand. I think it depends. If single, my choice is BKK. It has everything and I would never get bored here, plus only 90 minutes to Pat and the southern islands. With a Thai GF (non pro) things change and I could see myself living on some island or possibly up north.[/QUOTE]In a website somewhere, a piece of advice given was to stay in a few places for up to 3 months in each place to " try it on for size". My list at present includes Pattaya, Chiang Mai, Kuching or Kota Kinabalu, Phuket, Cebu, maybe Manila as I own property there, Singapore tpp but rentals would exclude there. Bali perhaps but not wild about it. HK would be fine (lived there for a few years) , and maybe Sanya which can be a great life too with all the requirements exccept for owning property there. Cambodia would be good also (have a Ch new year trip there to review)
Used to think that owning property where I retired was mandatory, but now, pay rent and move when a change is required. As its still a few years (4-5) away lots and lots of time to decide.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1363127]You should try Hong Kong again. It has changed alot in 30 years. The place is underated. Stay in Kowloon. Many sauna's, MP's, SW's. It is a mini Bangkok around Temple street. I have been there (and Maucau) in the past year just to monger and had a great time.
Also this:[url]http://s[/url] E x 1 4 1. Com / en/[/QUOTE]I go to HK about twice a year for business and I hate the place along with its people. Hotel is very nice and good enough Location (Langham Place). I did not have a chance to Monger there but went to that shit Peak stuff where you have to queue 1 hour to get the tram to go up there and another hour to come back. Way overrated.
I agree with Syzygyes, HK would be the last on my list.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1363504]I go to HK about twice a year for business and I hate the place along with its people.[/QUOTE]Tell us how you really feel. LOL
Does everyone cough up big loogies in HK? There's a young Chinese fella who lives next to me and I hear him always coughing up loogies. LOL
He's not a sociable person either.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1363527]Does everyone cough up big loogies in HK? There's a young Chinese fella who lives next to me and I hear him always coughing up loogies. LOL
He's not a sociable person either.[/QUOTE]You need to be familiar with the Chinese approach to self medication, and health. They believe its good to clear the throat as frequently as they can. I live in China and they practice this art with great dedication!
[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1363638]You need to be familiar with the Chinese approach to self medication, and health. They believe its good to clear the throat as frequently as they can. I live in China and they practice this art with great dedication![/QUOTE]Unfortunately even in restaurants sometimes, not nice while you're trying to eat
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1363504]I agree with Syzygyes, HK would be the last on my list.[/QUOTE]Its actually amazing how often we agree these days. I am sure I didn't change much. ;)
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1363698]Its actually amazing how often we agree these days. I am sure I didn't change much. ;)[/QUOTE]The two of you should get a room.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1363504]I go to HK about twice a year for business and I hate the place along with its people. Hotel is very nice and good enough Location (Langham Place). I did not have a chance to Monger there but went to that shit Peak stuff where you have to queue 1 hour to get the tram to go up there and another hour to come back. Way overrated.
I agree with Syzygyes, HK would be the last on my list.[/QUOTE]Your rating is useless. If a dude went to BKK on a very hot day with lots of traffic and pissed off people but never mongered and said" I hate the place, it is overrated". You would agree I guess?
Is this a travel site or are we talking about mongering?
You admittedly have never mongered in HK or probably Maucau. Why, too expensive for you? You really have not idea what you are talking about.
Walk down Temple street next time and find the MP's that have a menu out front of: Malay, Thai, Filipino, Chinese, Cambodian, etc. You can pick the girl and country for FS. That along with the FL's and Sauna's.
There are many opportunities in HK. But hate it and stay away. Just leaves more opportunites for the rest of us.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1364255]Is this a travel site or are we talking about mongering?[/quote]Well actually in the General thread I can say whatever I please, whenever I want. You don't like it? Put me on ignore.
[quote]You admittedly have never mongered in HK or probably Maucau. Why, too expensive for you? You really have not idea what you are talking about[/QUOTE]Wow, you're a bright one aren't you? I have never mongered in HK so therefore I have no idea. You have an excellent sense of deduction! Bravo.
And yes, I do not monger because I cannot afford it, I am poor and cheap, what can I do? Can you spare some change for me?
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1363843]The two of you should get a room.[/QUOTE]With a bed?
Hi Jackson,
There has been a lot of things happening in the Thailand forums lately that motivate me to suggest you appoint a moderator to help you.
ISG has clearly grown really big and I am sure there are more posts now than there ever were the past years.
I am quite certain reorganising the Thailand Forums will help members greatly in both their research and overall experience of ISG.
Is there anyone you know could help with these Chores? I am sure a few senior members would have the time to assist you there.
Just a thought.
SHIT, I did not mean to create a new Thread. How the hell did this happen?
Sorry, you can delete it please.
Thanks.
NF
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1364684]Sorry, you can delete it please.Thanks.NF[/QUOTE]Maybe a moderator can delete it! LOL, catch 22 loop.
Hahahahaha that's true
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1364255]You admittedly have never mongered in HK or probably Maucau. Why, too expensive for you? You really have not idea what you are talking about.
Walk down Temple street next time and find the MP's that have a menu out front of: Malay, Thai, Filipino, Chinese, Cambodian, etc. You can pick the girl and country for FS. That along with the FL's and Sauna's.
There are many opportunities in HK. But hate it and stay away. Just leaves more opportunites for the rest of us.[/QUOTE]Do the girls have sex without a condom in these places?
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1363078]Its interesting that you like Hong Kong. I really hated it 30 years ago and never wanted to return. It has awful culture or lack of it. Rubbish everywhere, everyone in such a hurry pushing and shoving, and very curt when speaking, or just plain rude. Gun fights in the streets not considered too strange.
What a contrast Singapore is, or even Thailand for that matter.
Hong Kong would be last on my list. I just don't like the attitudes of the people there.[/QUOTE]It seems Hong Kong is still much the same as you experienced it 3 decades ago, as described by ISG poster Tantalizeme:
[QUOTE=]15. Would I recommend HK or China as a pooning destination? Yes and no.
Yes—because erotic offerings abound.
But if you're a budget pooner or if you don't speak any Chinese, then probably no. High-quality service is scarcer in HK and China than what exists in the Philippines or Thailand. Add the fact that most SPs here aren't that cheap and scams are quite common. And very few of the more budget-friendly SPs speak much English.
Personally, if I didn't like HK and China for other reasons, I'd probably practice this hobby elsewhere in Asia.
Another issue in all Chinese cities—in spite of impressive pockets of glitz—is the crowded squalor, the constant roar of traffic, and especially the sooty air. I clearly wouldn't want to stay permanently in such a badly polluted place.
Sometimes this jam-packed, noisy, frenetic, environmentally degraded monster country strikes me as one gigantic insane asylum, albeit one blessed with more than its share of beautiful women. But the best pussy in the world can't compensate for air that's unfit to breathe.[/QUOTE]Compared to BKK, the higher cost of things like hotels & sex workers in Hong Kong rules it out for me as a long stay or retirement location.
I get much better value for my money in Thailand.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1365447]Do the girls have sex without a condom in these places?[/QUOTE]From my experience a girl will have sex w / o condom anywhere in Asia.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1364284]Well actually in the General thread I can say whatever I please, whenever I want. You don't like it? Put me on ignore.
Wow, you're a bright one aren't you? I have never mongered in HK so therefore I have no idea. You have an excellent sense of deduction! Bravo.
And yes, I do not monger because I cannot afford it, I am poor and cheap, what can I do? Can you spare some change for me?[/QUOTE]Sure, I will throw you some change. I will be in BKK Jan. 22.
I will be at the JW Marriott, but I am sure you are at the Nana Hotel. So I will meet you at the front of your hotel at 6pm. I will yell out "hey Frenchy". See you then and don't puss out.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1365817]Sure, I will throw you some change. I will be in BKK Jan. 22.
I will be at the JW Marriott, but I am sure you are at the Nana Hotel. So I will meet you at the front of your hotel at 6pm. I will yell out "hey Frenchy". See you then and don't puss out.[/QUOTE]Hahaha, are you really trying to act baller for staying at the JW during your weekly visit? And then you only go to places with below average girls.
[QUOTE=Relead;1366320]Hahaha, are you really trying to act baller for staying at the JW during your weekly visit? And then you only go to places with below average girls.[/QUOTE]You are still bothered because you are an admitted dumbshit know nothing who doesn't even know the power goes out on the island you claim to live on.
What you say is true. I stay at the Marriott and like below average girls. And I always have a great time.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1366520]What you say is true. I stay at the Marriott and like below average girls. And I always have a great time.[/QUOTE]The more near 'mythical average' the better the performance. The lookers are often starfish interested only in not having their make up mussed up.
[QUOTE=Scorchin1470;1366540]The more near 'mythical average' the better the performance. The lookers are often starfish interested only in not having their make up mussed up.[/QUOTE]Yes. You and I know that. I would much rather have a GFE below average girl than a high end Gogo starfish at 4 times the price who is on the rag and won't kiss or give BBBJ. I make sure I ALWAYS get GFE. But, many on here don't get it. Whatever, our gain and their loss.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1365817]Sure, I will throw you some change. I will be in BKK Jan. 22.
I will be at the JW Marriott, but I am sure you are at the Nana Hotel. So I will meet you at the front of your hotel at 6pm. I will yell out "hey Frenchy". See you then and don't puss out.[/QUOTE]Apparently you haven't learned anything from his years if posting. You just make yourself sound silly now.
[QUOTE=Pita123;1366643]Apparently you haven't learned anything from his years if posting. You just make yourself sound silly now.[/QUOTE]You are right. I don't have the time to read 4, 000 posts.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1366637]I would much rather have a GFE below average girl than a high end Gogo starfish at 4 times the price who is on the rag and won't kiss or give BBBJ. I make sure I ALWAYS get GFE. But, many on here don't get it.[/QUOTE]I agree partially in that I often avoid very high end girls, on the basis that they may be wanting easy money, prefering the mid range.
I would much rather have a well above average girl giving GFE than your 2 alternatives. That way I don't find them boring and want to change to a different one quickly. Perhaps you don't really choose plain girls at all, and are just being sarcastic.
What is the attraction of a "below average" girl? Just any old fuck or are you saying below average looks guarantees a great performance? How do you ensure that a great GFE is guaranteed? I mean asking her "do you kiss and give BBBJ" is not going to ensure GFE. Do you get a trial kiss up front? How much time do you spend talking to the girl to evaluate chemistry?
I find that picking an MP girl is risky, due to not enough time to evaluate chemistry. Many of us are willing to take the gamble, if she is hot enough. Do you avoid good looking MP girls and good looking bar girls entirely?
I know several very well above average MP girls, no silicone, that give great GFE for me. I don't get bored by them. They are not all at the cheapest level but are by no means at the very high end either. In order to find those girls, I had to take risks, sometimes get passable performance girls, and even the odd complete catastrophy.
In one place, I had a mamasan who could reliably tell me which girls would give good GFE too. If she recommended a below average girl, I would pass on that one. That would save me from bomb-outs.
Perhaps I have asked too many questions. Any constructive tips for the forum would be welcome, from someone with different priorities to my own.
BTW. Many guys, look at a very young girl (teenage look) with reasonable to good body or fake look and say she is beautiful, and yet the face is so ordinary / plain. That is not my definition of a beauty. There are far too many of those. Thai men also like to choose the youngest girls with white skin rather than the prettiest ones to my taste.
My tips for bargirls (since I don't do SWs much unless look rather special) :
1. No need to choose an overly shy girl with no experience. Slightly older is better. Make sure she is fun but not crazy.
2. Sit with girl for a while and evaluate chemistry. Is she acting or natural? Does she like you at all? Can you communicate O. K?
3. Girls who want to set a high price are very risky. I prefer girls who do not even discuss the price.
4. Make sure she had nothing urgent to get to, even if that is return to the bar.
5. Girls that dance with sexiness and style are often ore energetic on the bed too.
6. Get to know the bar staff that can give you realiable advice.
7. Don't pick a girl that is spaced out or too drunk.
8. Does she pull ugly nasty faces when talking to her friends?
9. If chemistry is going well, maybe surreptitiously sneak a kiss up front. Not possible with all girls, but if it works, it is a bonus good sign.
[QUOTE=Pita123;1366643]You just make yourself sound silly now.[/QUOTE]Actually, he's been sounding silly for a while now but it's always fun playing with these guys. It's like playing with children, you post something and you know exactly how they are going to react.
I just don't get the allure of below average girls but whatever floats your boat. I'm a visual kind of guy and just the act of playing hide the salami with a very attractive young girl is enough to get a rise out of me. But at least if someone is happy with below average girls, consider yourself lucky because its very easy to find in LOS LOL
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1366696]But at least if someone is happy with below average girls, consider yourself lucky because its very easy to find in LOS LOL[/QUOTE]Yes, indeed. The thing also is that these Average looking girls are widely available on TAgged or other sites like TLL, DIA.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1366780]Yes, indeed. The thing also is that these Average looking girls are widely available on TAgged or other sites like TLL, DIA.[/QUOTE]. And your point is what? That average looking girls can be had for free or something else? I have some average Thai girls available for unlimited sex all I can take for free but still would rather pay. I am weird.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1366783]. And your point is what? That average looking girls can be had for free or something else? I have some average Thai girls available for unlimited sex all I can take for free but still would rather pay. I am weird.[/QUOTE]And I would not even have sex, if it is for free, because it ends up being very exp later (telling from experience)
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[QUOTE=AssLover945; 1366801]And I would not even have sex, if it is for free, because it ends up being very exp later (telling from experience)
555555+++[/QUOTE]Yes those fucking "strings". Also meals, entertainment costs, and most of all lots of your valuable time. Its definitely easier to pay for 2 hours or less. I admire Daddy07 in Pattaya who has paid giks but likes to live alone.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1366783]. And your point is what? That average looking girls can be had for free or something else? I have some average Thai girls available for unlimited sex all I can take for free but still would rather pay. I am weird.[/QUOTE]My point was, why pay for below average girls? If you're going to pay then might as well be with a girl you find beautiful no? Or do people enjoy paying for something they can have for free?
Yes, Tagged girls can be expensive but only if you let them. Meet them, have sex and do not repeat. Many girls are perfectly fine with NSA sex. For anyone who has been in LOS and understands Thai ladies, you would know they LOVE a nice sex session (Money or not) , they really like sex and to have fun. If you are Sanook and fuck well (meaning she can really orgasm) , she will be very happy to meet you anytime (that goes for P4P as well).
I think people are making a mistake when they say "average girls". A girl can look average and provide amazing service. Is she average? No. A girl can look amazing and provide a crappy experience. Is she average or an optifik?
[QUOTE=Pita123;1366838]optifik?[/QUOTE]Had to Google that word. New to me. It means: Fucking with your eyes.
Where the hell did you pick that up? It sounds German.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1366675]I agree partially in that I often avoid very high end girls, on the basis that they may be wanting easy money, prefering the mid range.
I would much rather have a well above average girl giving GFE than your 2 alternatives. That way I don't find them boring and want to change to a different one quickly. Perhaps you don't really choose plain girls at all, and are just being sarcastic. 9. If chemistry is going well, maybe surreptitiously sneak a kiss up front. Not possible with all girls, but if it works, it is a bonus good sign.[/QUOTE]Syzygies,
Good post. I remember here when I was a younger man there was a bartender at a local bar a friend and I used to drink at. She was drop dead gorgeous and modeled on the side. I swore I would bed her if my life depended on it and I eventually did. I have to say with the problem that caused in my life it was the 3rd most expensive piece of ass I have ever had in my life. She was the single most worthless lay I have ever had. She was so worried that I would mess her hair, leave marks, and who know what else to make the experience a total waste. Although that stunner is nice to look at the ones I have bedded have been wanting. I've had those girl's next door that are pretty yet almost plain rock my socks. I see a Chinese girl here in the states. 21, but on the chibby side, great breasts. The last time she was here she brought a collar for me to use on her. Now that's a girl that's interested in making me feel good.
Are you full time in BKK? Will you be there in early Feb?
Simon
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1366852]Had to Google that word. New to me. It means: Fucking with your eyes.
Where the hell did you pick that up? It sounds German.[/QUOTE]"Optikfick": It is German and you find it a lot on the German forums here. It indeed has a sub-meaning of "nice to look at but starfish in the bed".
"Good looking" without that sub-meaning is "Augenweide", meaning "eye candy" or a "feast for the eyes".
I was asked by PM where to find videos of thai porn and apart from the well known links, I can share this one as I am not sure if many people know about it:
[url]http://www.seeingmole.com/index.php/category/erotic/[/url]
It's soft porn that Thai people like.
click on the picture and Scroll down to see the movies and see all the sex scenes
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1366852]Had to Google that word. New to me. It means: Fucking with your eyes.
Where the hell did you pick that up? It sounds German.[/QUOTE]From my research ahead of a trip to Germany and an FKK.
[QUOTE=Pita123;881523]What does optifik mean?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Delgado;881735]"optik" is the visual appearence, "optikfick" means you´re banging a girl because of her nice visual appearence, regardless of her other qualities.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pita123;1367096]From my research ahead of a trip to Germany and an FKK.[/QUOTE]Fuck changes to "fik" in German."Opti" is obvious enough. So visually, she demands to be fucked. The term is rarely applied if the girl is actually a great fuck. So usually applied when the deed is a dissappointment. May be used when the girl has not yet been tested as well, I think.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1367112]Fuck changes to "fik" in German."Opti" is obvious enough. So visually, she demands to be fucked. The term is rarely applied if the girl is actually a great fuck. So usually applied when the deed is a dissappointment. May be used when the girl has not yet been tested as well, I think.[/QUOTE]Yes, of course. That is how I used it in my explanation with regards to "average" girls.
All P4P aside, what are you doing with your money?
Most of you have stock portfolio's, right?
HHHMMM.
I spend about 2 hours everyday studying the markets. I checked my Asia investments and my Thai stock portfolio was up a whopping 35% this year. WOW. I made enough to pay for my trips for the next several years. Of course, most of it will go into the pockets of Thai girls. For Iphones, and computers and make-up and perfume I am sure. HAHA.
On Tuesday I am taking 10K US out of my account for my trip. Think that will last 2 weeks?
Yes, I am the guy who stays at the JW Marriott and shags below average girls. That is true of me and I am proud of it.
I hope all of you have a happy New Year and prosperous shagging in 2013.
Hint: I believe the Asian markets will slow in 2013. I am putting more money into US real estate funds (REITS). They will do very well next year.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1366520]You are still bothered because you are an admitted dumbshit know nothing who doesn't even know the power goes out on the island you claim to live on.
What you say is true. I stay at the Marriott and like below average girls. And I always have a great time.[/QUOTE]Not at all, I just find your bragging pathetic.
Samui electric may be shakier than most places, but making idiotic claims that it's normal for it to be down 2-3 days in a row is what I replied on. Then you are dumb enough to provide a link which informs of the current (or in these days, most recent) situation which is the only on to last 3 days in the last years.
Yes, I stay at Samui. I also stay in Bangkok. My work is available in both places (as well as most other places in the world) so I can freely choose. You are more then welcome to fuck your uglies, meanwhile I will be in bed with a gclub girls, cause some of us have decent game.
[QUOTE=Relead; 1367152]Not at all, I just find your bragging pathetic.
Samui electric may be shakier than most places, but making idiotic claims that it's normal for it to be down 2-3 days in a row is what I replied on. Then you are dumb enough to provide a link which informs of the current (or in these days, most recent) situation which is the only on to last 3 days in the last years.
Yes, I stay at Samui. I also stay in Bangkok. My work is available in both places (as well as most other places in the world) so I can freely choose. You are more then welcome to fuck your uglies, meanwhile I will be in bed with a gclub girls, cause some of us have decent game.[/QUOTE]I realize why you did not know the power can go out for days in KS. Because you are staying in a shithole without any power. Right?
With your 12 posts all you have done is show you are a useless non contibutor to this forum. Maybe your resolution should be to actually get laid and make your first report of such.
Happy New Year.
This is a Nat Geo (UK) story about scam cities. Bangkok in this case but it will do little or nothing for expats and experienced Thai visitors but may be helpful to newbies coming here for the first time. Some embellishment and spin in this piece but many should take note of the generic looking Baccara BG with three BFs all sending her money but she still works in the bar.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T5GLsn3jyA[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoXmzKUaRt8[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHHb6VK9IJA[/url]
[QUOTE=Pita123;1366838]I think people are making a mistake when they say "average girls". A girl can look average and provide amazing service. Is she average? No. A girl can look amazing and provide a crappy experience. Is she average or an optifik?[/QUOTE]Pita,
Just to be clear. A below average girl was referring to looks only! No one would want a girl sub standard in both looks and performance. However some of us are warped and don't want a sub-standard looking girl, and hence would not even find out how she performs. I do not go get a super BBBJ from an old hag, who may be expert. The sub average looks just spoils the fantasy. If she paid me, then maybe.
Why pay for sex with average or below averge girls when can get that for free? When I pay, I am wanting a fantasy dream girl (ideally) , or well above average will do, not just a performer. I don't think ugly girls have a place in the P4P business at all, except as mamasans etc. However if ugly girls insist on working P4P, they must go for a low price to have any hope of getting customers, even if they perform brilliantly. Otherwise no-one will try.
Yes we all agree an Optifik who performs badly is disappointing. Someone will maybe still want her.
The girl who is both very good looking and provides a great standard service is clearly the one who makes the very big money through regular customers. Optifiks can do okay too but have to keep finding new customers.
[QUOTE=Run Mann; 1368032]This is a Nat Geo (UK) story about scam cities. Bangkok in this case but it will do little or nothing for expats and experienced Thai visitors but may be helpful to newbies coming here for the first time. Some embellishment and spin in this piece but many should take note of the generic looking Baccara BG with three BFs all sending her money but she still works in the bar.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T5GLsn3jyA[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoXmzKUaRt8[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHHb6VK9IJA[/url][/QUOTE]I did enjoy watching this. Some very good pointers for the 1st or 2nd time visitor. I had a chuckle when I saw the Baccara scene at the outside bar, I actually know the waitress with the slightly chubby face, as other regular Baccara devotee's probably do as well. Thank's for posting the links Run Mann.
Regards,
BJ
[quote=run mann; 1368032]this is a nat geo (uk) story about scam cities. bangkok in this case but it will do little or nothing for expats and experienced thai visitors but may be helpful to newbies coming here for the first time. some embellishment and spin in this piece but many should take note of the generic looking baccara bg with three bfs all sending her money but she still works in the bar.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6t5glsn3jya[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goxmzkuart8[/url]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhhb6vk9ija[/url][/quote]some embellishment? i downloaded a few of them the other day and after watching 5 minutes of the rio (i lived in rio before pattaya) edition, i ended up erasing them all. i have never been robbed or anything in brazil, yet this guy is there 2 days and all this crap is happening to him. and to top it off he was in lapa talking to a ladyboy about date [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] drug and he never even realized it was a man. he was standing there telling the lb how beautiful he was. the lb even told him that when he passes out after getting drugged he would take his manhood and leave, yet this guy was still oblivious. a staged pile of crap that show is.
[quote=mr enternational;1368105]some embellishment? i downloaded a few of them the other day and after watching 5 minutes of the rio (i lived in rio before pattaya) edition, i ended up erasing them all. i have never been robbed or anything in brazil, yet this guy is there 2 days and all this crap is happening to him. and to top it off he was in lapa talking to a ladyboy about date [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] drug and he never even realized it was a man. he was standing there telling the lb how beautiful he was. the lb even told him that when he passes out after getting drugged he would take his manhood and leave, yet this guy was still oblivious. a staged pile of crap that show is.[/quote]he was the kink of staged documentary here in the us. this guy is not much better. like he's got a sign on his back that says "take advantage of me."
[quote=mr enternational;1368105]some embellishment? i downloaded a few of them the other day and after watching 5 minutes of the rio (i lived in rio before pattaya) edition, i ended up erasing them all. i have never been robbed or anything in brazil, yet this guy is there 2 days and all this crap is happening to him. and to top it off he was in lapa talking to a ladyboy about date [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] drug and he never even realized it was a man. he was standing there telling the lb how beautiful he was. the lb even told him that when he passes out after getting drugged he would take his manhood and leave, yet this guy was still oblivious. a staged pile of crap that show is.[/quote]don't hold back, tell us how you really feel :). the one on vegas is even worse as he clearly went out of his way to be scammed but it's all to show what can happen i suppose. this one about bkk does have some benefit though because the gem scam and the patpong upstairs bar scam is real as it has happened to many novices in the past.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1368105]Some embellishment? I downloaded a few of them the other day and after watching 5 minutes of the Rio (I lived in Rio before Pattaya) edition, I ended up erasing them all. I have never been robbed or anything in Brazil, yet this guy is there 2 days and all this crap is happening to him. A staged pile of crap that show is.[/QUOTE]Relevance? I nothing about Rio, but certainly all the Thailand scams I watched in first video or so are real and quite realistic of what goes on and useful education for newbies. It does not claim that you personally have been caught by all of them or that someone will fall for all of them within 2 days. They knew where to find them well enough. I certainly have experienced a Patpong bar trying to charge me far too much many years ago. I told them to call the police and just refused to pay more than roughly the correct amount. They gave up and I got away with no more than a shove. I have experienced a similar scam in both Hong Kong and in London Soho over paying for unwanted Hostess time or super priced Hostess drinks. I refused to comply in all cases.
I have not been robbed in Thailand either, except by forgetting my bag briefly it a department store and it was gone, or when a policeman stopped my taxi and took from me half a pill he thought was suspect. Scams are possibly a greater danger to the non-skeptic newbies.
The scams are definitely valid however it was apparent that during his tenure in these places they were all staged for the purpose of the show. They definitely tried me and a few wingmen once at the upstairs sex show in Patpong. As I reported back then I had known better than to go up there thanks to the forum, but my wingmen insisted. It was all well and good until we tried to leave and they insisted that we pay them 400 baht for each Heineken. After a bunch of cursing and shouting back and forth it didn't turn out how they thought it would. We probably ended up giving them 400 baht total for the four beers.
I've never been fool enough to even look in the direction of a gem shop. When people visiting ask me about buying gems in Thailand I tell them I know nothing about gems so I wouldn't even attempt it. There are bargains to be had in the Los Angeles jewelry district if an American is in the market for gems. When I got married my wife and I bought our rings from there. Mine was 1ct diamond and hers 2.5. I paid $2400 for them and brought them home and had them appraised for $8000.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1368421]Actually service is way overrated when it comes to fun sex. No. 1 is that you like the girl and the girl doesn't find you disgusting.
I've had many occasions where I said to myself WOW this girl gives good service yet couldn't wait for it to end![/QUOTE]?
I guess you have logic on your comments. I don't get it though.
If she is giving good service, she must be displaying some type of affection, like, or wanting to please you. I bet many girls find us "disgusting" but if they are past that, doing their job and giving good service that is fine with me.
I really can't think of an occasion where I was getting good service and wanted it to end. Probably just me.
Like I say: I would rather have a 5 or 6 who gave WOW good service, than a 10 who was a starfish.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1368751]?
I guess you have logic on your comments. I don't get it though.[/QUOTE]I understand Harold very well on this one. There are those out there who don't have strong desire for particular girls. Any girl that gives service will do. Can enjoy a BJ with an old hag. This is not Harold or me.
For Harold and myself, the absolute best possible service is not necessary, as long as the girl is very pretty / sexy, trys to please and is willing to have fun. I have a one girl who is available for free and is willing to give me extended BBBJs every day, but I do not have a fierce desire for her. She is not quite my spec. Only slightly above average looks, at best, a little over weight and bad smokers breath dampens my desire greatly.
Other girl may perform with less service but still be far more desirable even when I have to pay. I am too spoiled by hotties and cannot go back to normal girls. When I know a very desirable girl, I do not get bored with her easily.
Only once in my life did I have a GF who was a 10 for sex performance. However was difficult to cope with crazy aspects of her character. We often take girls who are less than a 10 for service, for other reasons.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1368751]I would rather have a 5 or 6 who gave WOW good service, than a 10 who was a starfish.[/QUOTE]Sure, but that is not the only choice we face. What about a low cost 5* girl who gives mediocre service. What about a 7* girl who rocks your world, but asks for double the money? And what about an 8* stunner who gives very good service and who is very $$$$ expensive. Good looks do not necessarily mean bad performance. And average looks is no guarantee of great performance. Money is just the chips we use to have a good time. How you play the game is what counts.
I, like a few other guys here on the forum, put value on good looking women. A pretty face and sexy body adds to my level of overall satisfaction. I could not be happy with a girl I did not find attractive. But what kind of girl I take on a particular night depends on what I am up for. It varies. When I want an oily massage girl, I pay the oily going rate and try to find the best looking smiley girl available. When I want a Go Go girl, I don't mind paying more. It is a different experience. I just take my time in order to select the right girl. When I want a really good looking girl, I know where to go for that too and I don't mind paying large as long as I am pretty sure I am going to have a good time. And all this high end action does not deter me from hunting on Beach Road and selecting a FL, if I find an attractive, friendly one, once in a while.
My batting average is pretty good so I will keep going after the kind of girls I prefer. I had one starfish stunner from Rainbow 4 three years ago and a hot 3000p EWR Filipina bar girl from Club Asia pulled runner on me last year. Those were my only really bad experiences out of some 90 to 100 girls. Not that the remaining 98 were all amazing shags or fantastic lookers. No how could they be, but a healthy majority of my girls were good looking and very good in bed. I am happy. That is my point.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1368841]Good looks do not necessarily mean bad performance. And average looks is no guarantee of great performance. Money is just the chips we use to have a good time. How you play the game is what counts.[/QUOTE]Good points.
Lets say the term starfish would generally be defined as "hot looks, but poor performance"
However, I believe you have to then divide them into 2 groups 1. Just bad attitude, want to get it over with types 2. (the less common) maybe relatively new to the business, not really sure they should be doing it at all, and just plain worried about what's going on, and therefore really can't get into it or fake it very well at the moment. I don't think the 2nd category is necessarily that bad.
[QUOTE=Western787; 1368876]Good points.
Lets say the term starfish would generally be defined as "hot looks, but poor performance"
However, I believe you have to then divide them into 2 groups 1. Just bad attitude, want to get it over with types 2. (the less common) maybe relatively new to the business, not really sure they should be doing it at all, and just plain worried about what's going on, and therefore really can't get into it or fake it very well at the moment. I don't think the 2nd category is necessarily that bad.[/QUOTE]There are many types of bad performance, but starfish is really quite explicit. It means very passive during sex not doing much, and not moving with it. Not showing any form of willing to enjoy or have fun. Over 50% of women, do not orgasm from dick in pussy, and probably much higher percentage of working girls, but that does not mean they have to be starfish.
However Thai working girls are much better than girls from my country, and many are able to have fun and enjoy or seem to, rather than be starfish. Obviously GFE is not a starfish.
Some girls give poor performance through lack of ability and experience, but does not equate to "starfish". Very shy girls may not even know how to do BJ at all. Still could be not as bad to fuck as a starfish. Another aspect of starfish are those girls whose legs stiffen up, and pelvis is not on an angle conducive to sex. I. E. They are dick scared.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1368841]My batting average is pretty good so I will keep going after the kind of girls I prefer. I had one starfish stunner from Rainbow 4 three years ago and a hot 3000p EWR Filipina bar girl from Club Asia pulled runner on me last year. Those were my only really bad experiences out of some 90 to 100 girls. Not that the remaining 98 were all amazing shags or fantastic lookers. No how could they be, but a healthy majority of my girls were good looking and very good in bed. I am happy. That is my point.[/QUOTE]I think sometimes you have to work what you have. I've had potential starfish that turned out wee as they were wanting to be led. I'm a firm believer in make a girl think she's pretty and she'll want to prove it that much more. Joke with her, make her laugh, get her comfortable and things change."Dick scared." That's pretty funny. Had one last night. I'm big but not that damn big.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1368807]I understand Harold very well on this one. There are those out there who don't have strong desire for particular girls. Any girl that gives service will do. Can enjoy a BJ with an old hag. This is not Harold or me.
For Harold and myself, the absolute best possible service is not necessary, as long as the girl is very pretty / sexy, trys to please and is willing to have fun. I have a one girl who is available for free and is willing to give me extended BBBJs every day, but I do not have a fierce desire for her. She is not quite my spec. Only slightly above average looks, at best, a little over weight and bad smokers breath dampens my desire greatly.
Other girl may perform with less service but still be far more desirable even when I have to pay. I am too spoiled by hotties and cannot go back to normal girls. When I know a very desirable girl, I do not get bored with her easily.
Only once in my life did I have a GF who was a 10 for sex performance. However was difficult to cope with crazy aspects of her character. We often take girls who are less than a 10 for service, for other reasons.[/QUOTE] I am sure you do agree with him.
Yes, that is s big difference between you and some of us.
I go for sexual satisfaction, service and GFE from as you say "normal girls". There are many, many more complaints about the "lookers" than the GFE "normal" girls.
Some are just into throwing their money away for looks.
From reading some of your posts, it does not appear you have really ever had a GFE experience. That is what I get from your posts. What a shame.
And, I bet you have had many more bad experiences than me. That seems such a waste. But hey, its your money.
You are right, what you like is not me.
By the way, Happy New Year.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1369116]From reading some of your posts, it does not appear you have really ever had a GFE experience. That is what I get from your posts. What a shame.
And, I bet you have had many more bad experiences than me. That seems such a waste. But hey, its your money.
You are right, what you like is not me.[/QUOTE]You don't get much.
I am sure I will never be as negative in my posts as you. I guess that reflects who is really having a good time.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1369913]You don't get much.
I am sure I will never be as negative in my posts as you. I guess that reflects who is really having a good time.[/QUOTE]I agree Mr. Snuggles. I need to be more positive. That was my new year resolution.
I think I have seen just about every Ad on that site.
There are some interesting ones. The headings some use are very interesting.
Most of them just come right out and say "I want to marry". I appreciate their honesty, but most guys I know don't want to hear that on the first communication with someone.
Then there are the "I just want to be friends". Sure you do.
Then the "No drinkers, gamblers, or butterflies". That probably aces out a lot of the male population.
A few others , "I am not free".
Another said," No man with sex disease". I wonder if she got one.
Probably the most interesting one and honest I guess said," I want old man to marry who is about to die". She went on to say in her profile she really wants an old man to marry who is dieing so she can get all his money.
All part of dating Thai girls I guess.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1369985]I think I have seen just about every Ad on that site.
Probably the most interesting one and honest I guess said," I want old man to marry who is about to die". She went on to say in her profile she really wants an old man to marry who is dieing so she can get all his money.
All part of dating Thai girls I guess.[/QUOTE]Not at all part of dating Thai girls. It is part of dating someone who isn't about shit. I guess that last person does not realize that just because a guy dies does not mean he has to leave her anything.
Some dude offered her $35, 000 US.
[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/02/rebecca-bernardo-brazilian-virgin-auction_n_2397740.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1370087]Some dude offered her $35, 000 US.[/QUOTE]The prior Brazilian "virgin" who supposedly got $780, 000 in cash, was checked for STDs, and while she had a medical exam to check her virginity status, it could not be conclusive (meaning its totally useless). Also the guy had to use a condom and the act undertaken via airplane over international waters to avoid violating any laws. The funniest comment I saw on that case was "its just a Japanese dood people she will still be a virgin when they are thru."
Obviously the Japanese guy wasting all that cash had never been to Bangkok.
[QUOTE=Western787;1368876]Lets say the term starfish would generally be defined as "hot looks, but poor performance"[/QUOTE]Starfish is only about performance and looks are not a factor at all.
[QUOTE=Western787; 1370279]The prior Brazilian "virgin" who supposedly got $780, 000 in cash, was checked for STDs, and while she had a medical exam to check her virginity status, it could not be conclusive (meaning its totally useless). Also the guy had to use a condom and the act undertaken via airplane over international waters to avoid violating any laws. The funniest comment I saw on that case was "its just a Japanese dood people she will still be a virgin when they are thru."
Obviously the Japanese guy wasting all that cash had never been to Bangkok.[/QUOTE]Must have been a private plane. And who paid for that I wonder. Just because you are over water does not mean it is lawless. Local laws still apply for commercial carriers. You can not legally have sex on a commercial carrier whether it is paid or unpaid. It is still considered a public place.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1370359]Must have been a private plane. And who paid for that I wonder. Just because you are over water does not mean it is lawless. Local laws still apply for commercial carriers. You can not legally have sex on a commercial carrier whether it is paid or unpaid. It is still considered a public place.[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/26/catarina-migliorini-playboy_n_2339665.html[/url]
Nothing consumated yet. Yes, if it ever happens I would assume it would be a private flight also, but given its Bali to the USA, that's a pretty expensive charter, and that route I believe could likely even require a Boeing Business Jet (which also just happens to have beds) which could by itself run $200, 000 alone. On the other hand any guy willing to pay that much money for sex (assuming he's notcompletely insane) would have to already be worth 20 million plus anyways, so maybe he's paying instead of the film company.
Has anyone ever visited this night club? It suppose to be a jazz music venue where live music is performed nightly. I would like to know what anyone's experience was a the club. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Rodwint2;1372142]Has anyone ever visited this night club? It suppose to be a jazz music venue where live music is performed nightly. I would like to know what anyone's experience was a the club. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I love it. Go there often. Food is decent and the music is good. Three different acts over the course of the evening typically.
[QUOTE=Pita123;1372242]I love it. Go there often. Food is decent and the music is good. Three different acts over the course of the evening typically.[/QUOTE]Is the food service like a regular restaurant where you can get dinner, or just appetizers and snacks to listen to the music?
[QUOTE=Rodwint2;1372142]Has anyone ever visited this night club? It suppose to be a jazz music venue where live music is performed nightly. I would like to know what anyone's experience was a the club. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I've been. No pretense, not at all fancy type of place. Decent drinks and prices as I recall.
[QUOTE=Rodwint2;1372337]Is the food service like a regular restaurant where you can get dinner, or just appetizers and snacks to listen to the music?[/QUOTE]Like a regular restaurant. Quite a large selection of Thai and Int'l food.
[QUOTE=Pita123;1373280]Like a regular restaurant. Quite a large selection of Thai and Int'l food.[/QUOTE]Thank you.
So where is this place?
[QUOTE=Mackin;1373854]So where is this place?[/QUOTE]
[u][color=blue][url=http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Saxaphone+Club]How to find it[/url][/color][/u]
Works even with the wrong spelling.
[url=http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Saxaphone+Club]How to find it[/url]
Works even with the wrong spelling.[/QUOTE]
Good job. What is the deal with these dumb shit posters who can't even Google.
How to find it. How do you do that, Tiger? No you don't have to tell me. It was a redundant question. I just thought it was very cool (and funny too).
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1373887]Good job. What is the deal with these dumb shit posters who can't even Google.[/QUOTE]Where is Google? Do they do out calls? What's the price there? Is there any risk that at Google has LB's? Any chance someone can suggest a girl from there, with picture and contact no? First time I heard about this Google.
LMAO, before someone takes me serious, I hope he gets the irony side of this.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1373910]Where is Google? Do they do out calls? What's the price there? Is there any risk that at Google has LB's? Any chance someone can suggest a girl from there, with picture and contact no? First time I heard about this Google.[/QUOTE]Please don't go to Google. I heard from a friend of a friend that said he heard from his friend (who hadn't actually been there but had been to KFC) that all the staff there and most of the clientele have incurable STD's. He even said that everyone that went there eventually died!
Consider yourself warned.
Now, doe's anyone know how to get to the Sexo-Phone Club? You know, the place where you go to place phone calls to syphilitic old bar girls?
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1373910]Where is Google? Do they do out calls? What's the price there? Is there any risk that at Google has LB's? Any chance someone can suggest a girl from there, with picture and contact no? First time I heard about this Google.
LMAO, before someone takes me serious, I hope he gets the irony side of this.[/QUOTE]I heard it was in a Soi called Cyber or something like that. I can't get a specific answer exactly where it is located, if you find out I would like to know.
Regards,
BJ
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1373892]How to find it. How do you do that, Tiger? No you don't have to tell me. It was a redundant question. I just thought it was very cool (and funny too).[/QUOTE]I have no problem to answer that. There is no magic involved.You can create that link on this site:
[url]www.lmgtfy.com[/url]
This is more a general view of some postings in the BKK thread:
Again I have to question all this nag about increased prices and less talent. Again I can compare from lets say 07/08 until today and I have not seen any dramaticaly increasing in prices. Hotels almost the same. My usual hotel (Grand President) I view bills from 08 and back then a room cost 2180BHT incl tax. My last trip in Dec 12 the cost was 2284BHT. Taxi from BKK to mentioned hotel I still pay an even steven 400BHT incl toll without any driver reacting (yes I know it is more than by use of meter but still very very low rate. Not even start tax in Norway). I still pay 2500BHT per bottle of vodka in Insomnia / Climax (with membershipcard). And Freelancegirls are happy with 2500. 3000BHT LT action. Spasso stands out as 5000BHT place. BTS prices is the same(i think). And a taxi downtown can still drive you for ages for 100BHT. Even a middayfuck from BG soi 7 is still 1500. 2000.
My impression regarding girls is still that it is almost a constant ammount of providers to my liking (freelancemarket) and there are never any trouble getting there attention. They are still friendly as long as you work on the basic chemistry. I still consider BKK as my nr 1 destination. What will happen in a few years no one knows so I enjoy it while I can.
But MP's, Go Go and BF's I would not know about since I don't use this services that much.
[QUOTE=Mackin;1373854]So where is this place?[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.saxophonepub.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=Skogis; 1374360]This is more a general view of some postings in the BKK thread:
Again I have to question all this nag about increased prices and less talent. Again I can compare from lets say 07/08 until today and I have not seen any dramaticaly increasing in prices. Hotels almost the same. My usual hotel (Grand President) I view bills from 08 and back then a room cost 2180BHT incl tax. My last trip in Dec 12 the cost was 2284BHT. Taxi from BKK to mentioned hotel I still pay an even steven 400BHT incl toll without any driver reacting (yes I know it is more than by use of meter but still very very low rate. Not even start tax in Norway). I still pay 2500BHT per bottle of vodka in Insomnia / Climax (with membershipcard). And Freelancegirls are happy with 2500. 3000BHT LT action. Spasso stands out as 5000BHT place. BTS prices is the same (I think). And a taxi downtown can still drive you for ages for 100BHT. Even a middayfuck from BG soi 7 is still 1500. 2000.
My impression regarding girls is still that it is almost a constant ammount of providers to my liking (freelancemarket) and there are never any trouble getting there attention. They are still friendly as long as you work on the basic chemistry. I still consider BKK as my nr 1 destination. What will happen in a few years no one knows so I enjoy it while I can.
But MP's, Go Go and BF's I would not know about since I don't use this services that much.[/QUOTE]If something goes up 10 B, cheap charlies with lousy jobs will complain.
I see the same things you do. But actually currently pay less at times for the services you mentioned.
I am 1st timer.
I am looking thru all the escorts sites like Bangkok escorts. Escortsbangkok. Bustyescorts. Bkkescorts. Etc.
All have prices lets say 10000-12000 for 24 hours.
From members experience are those prices negotiable?
And. Are the pictures on these sites true with some photoshop enhancements?
Thanks for the repliers.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1374412]So many fans of Baccara and not 1 mentioned the 10 baht increase in drink prices. I doubt most of you know where Baccara evn is located. LOL.[/QUOTE]Probably because we tend to post about things that are actually relevant to normal people.
Regards,
BJ
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1374454]If something goes up 10 B, cheap charlies with lousy jobs will complain.
I see the same things you do. But actually currently pay less at times for the services you mentioned.[/QUOTE]And not to mention travel expenses. Airfares has dropped considerably in the same time gap from around 45000BHT in 07/08 into as low as 20000+BHT in 10/11. In the year 12 it was avarage 30000BHT. This is from Oslo. Bangkok. We have a new norwegian airline starting up with non stop flights from Oslo and Stockholm in June and they have prisces as low as 15000-BHT. So all in all I agree witth Luvpuss. Actually it has become cheaper if you add all costs up.
Does your Hotel provide no good free internet or certain sites are restricted (e. G. At Admiral Premier)?
I can use Personal Hotspot on my iphone 4 with 3G signal in many areas. *500*72# with AIS gives me 300 MBytes for 99 Baht.
Check your wifi. Example if you receiving an "@ 3BB Wifi" signal, can apply for 30 days Wifi with them using an SMS for 99 Baht. Many other methods to apply. They have manny hotspots throughout Wattana (Sukhumvit) and Khlong Toey.
Where I live in outer suburb has 3BB Wifi signal too.
So I use 3BB right now, and fall back to my iphone if not in 3BB area.
If you want super fast Broadband at your home, CAT is the company to go with. True Internet is slow and unreliable.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1376587]Does your Hotel provide no good free internet or certain sites are restricted (e. G. At Admiral Premier)?
I can use Personal Hotspot on my iphone 4 with 3G signal in many areas. *500*72# with AIS gives me 300 MBytes for 99 Baht.
Check your wifi. Example if you receiving an "at3BB Wifi" signal, can apply for 30 days Wifi with them using an SMS for 99 Baht. Many other methods to apply. They have manny hotspots throughout Wattana (Sukhumvit) and Khlong Toey.
Where I live in outer suburb has 3BB Wifi signal too.
So I use 3BB right now, and fall back to my iphone if not in 3BB area.
If you want super fast Broadband at your home, CAT is the company to go with. True Internet is slow and unreliable.[/QUOTE]3BB Wifi spots in Wattana:
[url]http://hotspot.3bb.co.th/location/iframe_location_list_map.php?province_id=1&hur_id=39&district_id=0[/url]
And in Khlong Toey:
[url]http://hotspot.3bb.co.th/location/hotspot_map_all.php?province_id=1&hur_id=33&district_id=0[/url]
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1374454]If something goes up 10 B, cheap charlies with lousy jobs will complain.
I see the same things you do. But actually currently pay less at times for the services you mentioned.[/QUOTE]I am about to start my 4th tour in as many years and have the felling that this is the end of line for me.
To fly from Canada to BKK plus hotels alone is going to cost me $2600 then add cost of mongering / food / tips etc and I can easily see it exceed $4400.
For $4400 I can have 16-20 1 hour shots right here with choice of women from over 50 countries. That also means I can go for it when needed, noneed to starve for a year and over indulge at buffet.
Plus no need to fly for 24 hours, no need to lose 2/3 weeks vacation time.
I am begining to feel that Costa Rica is much better for folks from North America and that it ain't worth 4-5 k $.
The wirld is changing v fast and east is no more cheap.
[QUOTE=Margaya;1376850]To fly from Canada to BKK plus hotels alone is going to cost me $2600 then add cost of mongering / food / tips etc and I can easily see it exceed $4400.[/QUOTE]Of course its too far. Likewise I am not mongering in South America as is just too far for me, not coming from that part of the world. Its worth pointing out that if you need a tooth crown or root canals done, the cost savings in Thailand pays a large portion of your airfare or possibly all of it in my case (not as far).
I save a lot by doing all dentist visits in Thailand over my home country.
[QUOTE=Margaya;1376850]I am begining to feel that Costa Rica is much better for folks from North America and that it ain't worth 4-5 k $.[/QUOTE]Also worth pointing out is that what you save on airfare you will pay towards mongering. Those girls in CR want $100 for short time. In BKK you can get short time for $30 or less. I'm not one of those guys who claim the States to be sex prison. I've never been one to monger simply because I can't get pussy in the States. I've never had a problem getting chicks. For me it is the entire package deal of being in another place. The feeling I get when I'm in Brazil or Colombia or Thailand. The food that I'm eating there. The different people and how they act. Hell I can stick my dick into a hole anywhere on earth. But there are different strokes for different folks; some like Pepsi and some like Coke.
For those who don't know, Apcalis is an Indian made generic drug, same as Cialis. Cialis vs. Viagra lasts longer (up to 3 days) and for me feels more natural. Viagra gives me that near headache feel.
I was in BKK in the Nana area and checked several pharmacies. Price varied, it seemed that B 400 is the bottom price. I bought several packs, but B 400 remained bottom. It's also sold at the streets (they ask for B 350) , but I don't have much trust in street vendors and the price difference was rather small anyway. They had Viagra and a range of other ED meds too, which were obviously fake.
I wonder if Apcalis is legal in Thailand, when I ask for it the staff usually had a look at the manager, then got a nod. Not that I really care though.
[QUOTE=DayNight;1377071]For those who don't know, Apcalis is an Indian made generic drug, same as Cialis. Cialis vs. Viagra lasts longer (up to 3 days) and for me feels more natural. Viagra gives me that near headache feel.[/QUOTE]That is probably because when you tried Viagra, you maybe took far too much (over-dosed). A small fragment would surfice. Viagra / Kamagra 100 mg is very strong. Apcalis has a much weaker but longer lasting effect in the standard dose 25 mg in my opinion. I believe they made it in 25 mg for this reason based on past experience with most Viagra users taking small crumbs rather than whole pills.
If you took less than 25 mg of Viagra and still felt terrible, okay then but it is very strong and needs to be used with care.
Life of Apcalis (Tadalafil) having appreciable effect is normally quoted to be up to 36 hours max. In fact the typical half life is 17 and a half hours (time till only half of dose remains in your system). Perhaps you could have got 3 days benefit from a placebo as well, and that would have felt very natural.
Viagra half life is about 4 hours typically, which does not mean there is no effect after 4 hours.
Then comes the interesting question. Do you want to operate for 3 days with every decreasing quantities of Tadalafil in your system, like dropping to one eighth of the initial dose, or would it be better to take much less initially, but keep redosing every so often, to get a more consistent level in your system. With many girls you clearly don't really need the assistance anyway, if everything is going great after 3 days.
In my case I do not use anything with my GF, and certain other super hot girls. Therefore when getting any boost, I prefer it to be short term acting. My abnormal hard-ons can tolerate any number of condom changes and other stuffing around, stiff legs, etc. I still get a big turn off by girls with sponges stuffed up their pussy.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1377019]Also worth pointing out is that what you save on airfare you will pay towards mongering. Those girls in CR want $100 for short time. In BKK you can get short time for $30 or less. I'm not one of those guys who claim the States to be sex prison. I've never been one to monger simply because I can't get pussy in the States. I've never had a problem getting chicks. For me it is the entire package deal of being in another place. The feeling I get when I'm in Brazil or Colombia or Thailand. The food that I'm eating there. The different people and how they act. Hell I can stick my dick into a hole anywhere on earth. But there are different strokes for different folks; some like Pepsi and some like Coke.[/QUOTE]Good points.
I have traveled the world and I still believe that for everything, Thailand is the best for mongering and overall experience.
Infrastructure.
Food.
Safety.
Cost of pussy.
Quality of pussy.
Quantity of pussy
Quantity of MP's.
Cost for nice hotels.
Friendliness of people.
Other things to do besides mongering.
Just my opinion from the 22 countries I have visited in the past 3 years.
One thing on the horizon I think is Thailand is going to have some fairly high inflation. I am not complaining, but I am seeing some decent cost increases for non mongering goods.
[QUOTE=DayNight; 1377071]For those who don't know, Apcalis is an Indian made generic drug, same as Cialis. Cialis vs. Viagra lasts longer (up to 3 days) and for me feels more natural. Viagra gives me that near headache feel.
I was in BKK in the Nana area and checked several pharmacies. Price varied, it seemed that B 400 is the bottom price. I bought several packs, but B 400 remained bottom.[/QUOTE]Is that 400B per dose? If not how many doses per pack?
[QUOTE=Margaya;1376850]I am about to start my 4th tour in as many years and have the felling that this is the end of line for me. To fly from Canada to BKK plus hotels alone is going to cost me $2600 then add cost of mongering / food / tips etc and I can easily see it exceed $4400. For $4400 I can have 16-20 1 hour shots right here with choice of women from over 50 countries. That also means I can go for it when needed, noneed to starve for a year and over indulge at buffet. Plus no need to fly for 24 hours, no need to lose 2/3 weeks vacation time. I am begining to feel that Costa Rica is much better for folks from North America and that it ain't worth 4-5 k $.The wirld is changing v fast and east is no more cheap.[/QUOTE]Perhaps you can be more economical.
Airfare YVR to BKK with CP, economy class, roughly $800 CAD.
Hotel in Pattaya for 2 weeks, about $420.
Beach road SWs, twice daily for 14 days, $410.
Taxis & food another $300, or much less if you eat Thai style.
Total cost for the trip under $2000 CAD.
Cost in Canada for the same amount of pussy maybe $6000. Plus travel costs. And what about researching the SP's, their restrictions, feminist attitudes?
As a bonus, if one likes massage, in LOS you can get one hour for $10. In Canada it will be way more.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1377019]Also worth pointing out is that what you save on airfare you will pay towards mongering. Those girls in CR want $100 for short time. In BKK you can get short time for $30 or less.[/QUOTE]Or if a guy likes LT he can have a TG for 100 to 200 USD or less.
In Canada he's looking at 10 times as much.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1377019]Also worth pointing out is that what you save on airfare you will pay towards mongering. Those girls in CR want $100 for short time. In BKK you can get short time for $30 or less. I'm not one of those guys who claim the States to be sex prison. I've never been one to monger simply because I can't get pussy in the States. I've never had a problem getting chicks. For me it is the entire package deal of being in another place. The feeling I get when I'm in Brazil or Colombia or Thailand. The food that I'm eating there. The different people and how they act. Hell I can stick my dick into a hole anywhere on earth. But there are different strokes for different folks; some like Pepsi and some like Coke.[/QUOTE]Right. That's why we're called sex tourists.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1377088]That is probably because when you tried Viagra, you maybe took far too much (over-dosed). A small fragment would surfice. Viagra / Kamagra 100 mg is very strong. Apcalis has a much weaker but longer lasting effect in the standard dose 25 mg in my opinion. I believe they made it in 25 mg for this reason based on past experience with most Viagra users taking small crumbs rather than whole pills.
If you took less than 25 mg of Viagra and still felt terrible, okay then but it is very strong and needs to be used with care.
Life of Apcalis (Tadalafil) having appreciable effect is normally quoted to be up to 36 hours max. In fact the typical half life is 17 and a half hours (time till only half of dose remains in your system). Perhaps you could have got 3 days benefit from a placebo as well, and that would have felt very natural.
Viagra half life is about 4 hours typically, which does not mean there is no effect after 4 hours.
Then comes the interesting question. Do you want to operate for 3 days with every decreasing quantities of Tadalafil in your system, like dropping to one eighth of the initial dose, or would it be better to take much less initially, but keep redosing every so often, to get a more consistent level in your system. With many girls you clearly don't really need the assistance anyway, if everything is going great after 3 days.
In my case I do not use anything with my GF, and certain other super hot girls. Therefore when getting any boost, I prefer it to be short term acting. My abnormal hard-ons can tolerate any number of condom changes and other stuffing around, stiff legs, etc. I still get a big turn off by girls with sponges stuffed up their pussy.[/QUOTE]You make an excellent point about placebo effects. Cialis can be taken daily at low doses (2. 5 and 5 mg). I mentioned in an earlier reply, I've taken 10mg daily for a week at a time with no side effects. The drug seemed to produce its effects continually. In part a placebo effect? Who knows?
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1377089]Good points.
I have traveled the world and I still believe that for everything, Thailand is the best for mongering and overall experience.
Infrastructure.
Food.
Safety.
Cost of pussy.
Quality of pussy.
Quantity of pussy.
Quantity of MP's.
Cost for nice hotels.
Friendliness of people.
Other things to do besides mongering.
Just my opinion from the 22 countries I have visited in the past 3 years.
One thing on the horizon I think is Thailand is going to have some fairly high inflation. I am not complaining, but I am seeing some decent cost increases for non mongering goods.[/QUOTE]I recently read that Bangkok is the world's third most popular tourist destination. This is all types of tourists. The reasons you list are exactly why I can't wait for my next trip to Bangkok.
[QUOTE=DayNight; 1377071]For those who don't know, Apcalis is an Indian made generic drug, same as Cialis. Cialis vs. Viagra lasts longer (up to 3 days) and for me feels more natural. Viagra gives me that near headache feel.
I was in BKK in the Nana area and checked several pharmacies. Price varied, it seemed that B 400 is the bottom price. I bought several packs, but B 400 remained bottom. It's also sold at the streets (they ask for B 350) , but I don't have much trust in street vendors and the price difference was rather small anyway. They had Viagra and a range of other ED meds too, which were obviously fake.
I wonder if Apcalis is legal in Thailand, when I ask for it the staff usually had a look at the manager, then got a nod. Not that I really care though.[/QUOTE]So your Dick is hard for 3 days? I am just asking. I tried Viagra one time and hated it because of the throbbing headache for 24 hours after. The stuff works with any type of stimulation from what I experienced. Well, my Dick was hard for most of 24 straight hours, even after cumming twice. I went to work the next day and could not get out of my chair much because my pecker was so stiff. There is always some type of stimulation it seems. As I write this my cock is rubbing against my leg and underwear, so if I had taken one of those pills, it would be hard now. 3 days always fighting a hard cock might be tough to handle for me.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1377417]So your Dick is hard for 3 days? I am just asking. I tried Viagra one time and hated it because of the throbbing headache for 24 hours after. The stuff works with any type of stimulation from what I experienced. Well, my Dick was hard for most of 24 straight hours, even after cumming twice. I went to work the next day and could not get out of my chair much because my pecker was so stiff. There is always some type of stimulation it seems. As I write this my cock is rubbing against my leg and underwear, so if I had taken one of those pills, it would be hard now. 3 days always fighting a hard cock might be tough to handle for me.[/QUOTE]If that is how it effects you, I'd see a doctor before taking it again. The manufacturers say an erection of 4 hours is reason to go to the hospital. You're having an adverse reaction. I have ED; when I take Cialis daily I only get an erection when I'm having sex. I don't get an erection from my dick rubbing against my clothes while looking at a pretty lady's ass while riding the BTS. I buy the stuff online now. No prescription is required. But the first time I used an ED medication it was with a prescription after seeing a physician.
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1377311]I recently read that Bangkok is the world's third most popular tourist destination. This is all types of tourists. The reasons you list are exactly why I can't wait for my next trip to Bangkok.[/QUOTE]Another interesting description one will hear: "Bangkok is the world's largest red light district"
While no entire city is itself literally a giant red light district, Bangkok arguably comes closer than any other sexual tourist destination in the world to meeting that description.
Comparatively low cost, so far at least, has been the crucial factor.
When "Rick Rock" made what I believed to a fair point about Bangkok now getting as expensive as other areas such as the USA, I conceded on an individual per transaction basis there is a lot of truth to that notion, however it doesn't take into account the totality of the Bangkok experience, the sheer volume of providers, and the multiplicity and variation of choices Bangkok presents. Nor would for example a hypothetical $5000 per month spent in New York City even buy a fraction of the (mongering) entertainment experience that could be bought in Bangkok for 150, 000 baht per month, probably not even one tenth.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1377417]I tried Viagra one time and hated it because of the throbbing headache for 24 hours after. The stuff works with any type of stimulation from what I experienced.[/QUOTE]As I pointed out, it is very strong stuff, and you clearly overdosed. A single 100mg dose is a major overdose for most normal people. You may have suffered Priaprism condition.
[QUOTE=Western787; 1377466]Another interesting description one will hear: "Bangkok is the world's largest red light district"
While no entire city is itself literally a giant red light district, Bangkok arguably comes closer than any other sexual tourist destination in the world to meeting that description.
Comparatively low cost, so far at least, has been the crucial factor.
When "Rick Rock" made what I believed to a fair point about Bangkok now getting as expensive as other areas such as the USA, I conceded on an individual per transaction basis there is a lot of truth to that notion, however it doesn't take into account the totality of the Bangkok experience, the sheer volume of providers, and the multiplicity and variation of choices Bangkok presents. Nor would for example a hypothetical $5000 per month spent in New York City even buy a fraction of the (mongering) entertainment experience that could be bought in Bangkok for 150, 000 baht per month, probably not even one tenth.[/QUOTE]And the food, hotels and taxis are much cheaper in Bangkok than New York City. Across the board, Bangkok is much cheaper than major cities in North America and Western Europe.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1377477]As I pointed out, it is very strong stuff, and you clearly overdosed. A single 100mg dose is a major overdose for most normal people. You may have suffered Priaprism condition.[/QUOTE]Some of the guys who are having adverse reactions to Viagra may wish to consider taking L-Arginine. Its a nonessential amino acid that increases blood flow and vascular dilation. It's cheap; and it's a principle ingredient in most non-Viagra type erection pills. It won't be enough if you have full blown ED, but if you're otherwise healthy and looking for a "little help" you may want to give it a try. You should be able to find it in any drug store or health food store. It's a very popular supplement among body builders. It makes their veins bulge more. About 3000mg thirty minutes before sex is about right. Works best when taken 30 minutes before a meal.
I've been using Cialis 5mg as needed for years. Zero complaints. Always works for up to 36 hours without side effects. I've been thinking about switching to the "maintenance" dose of 2. 5mg daily, mainly because of the reported benefits for those with BPH. Any anecdotal evidence of the small dose Cialis actually helping with BPH symptoms? Less frequency of urination, etc?
Big Pharma is always trying to market drugs for more than one ailment. Whether or not the drug in question actually has much benefit for the ancillary complaints. I'm looking for some first hand reports, where folks think the low dose Cialis daily actually has much effect on their BPH symptoms.
Thanks for any feedback.
• Syzygies
Thanks for your detailed reply. I did use Viagra (and a generic) , I use it only for 'external workouts' if you know what I mean. My pills are 100mg and I always half them. First I started with cutting them to quarters, but they may get a little old and I use half now. But maybe that is already an overdose for me. Hard to describe, it makes me feel a bit uncomfortable. I get reddish eyes too. I will try 25mg again next time.
No, I don't need the 3 day effect. I just want to use it because it feels more comfortable and natural. I use it maybe once a month or so.
• Mr Enternational
It's B 400 for a pack of 4. There are no other packaging as far as I know.
• Luvpuss
You don't stay hard all the time. All the drugs work on arousal. No arousal, no hard-on. One change, after cumming you may go soft slower then normal.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1377417]So your Dick is hard for 3 days? I am just asking. I tried Viagra one time and hated it because of the throbbing headache for 24 hours after. The stuff works with any type of stimulation from what I experienced. Well, my Dick was hard for most of 24 straight hours, even after cumming twice. I went to work the next day and could not get out of my chair much because my pecker was so stiff. There is always some type of stimulation it seems. As I write this my cock is rubbing against my leg and underwear, so if I had taken one of those pills, it would be hard now. 3 days always fighting a hard cock might be tough to handle for me.[/QUOTE]LOL. Yeah man you took too much. My barber said he had to go to the emergency room once from taking too much. He said it was very embarrassing and he will never take that shit again.
[QUOTE=Catbird; 1377542]I've been using Cialis 5mg as needed for years. Zero complaints. Always works for up to 36 hours without side effects. I've been thinking about switching to the "maintenance" dose of 2. 5mg daily, mainly because of the reported benefits for those with BPH. Any anecdotal evidence of the small dose Cialis actually helping with BPH symptoms? Less frequency of urination, etc?
Big Pharma is always trying to market drugs for more than one ailment. Whether or not the drug in question actually has much benefit for the ancillary complaints. I'm looking for some first hand reports, where folks think the low dose Cialis daily actually has much effect on their BPH symptoms.
Thanks for any feedback.[/QUOTE]I wasn't aware that Cialis was available in such small doses. Apcalis seems to be 20 mg. And I had assumed that Cialis would be the same.
It would certainly be well past its highest pontency at 36 hours but some weak effect still remaining.
I saw it is suggested to take at least 2 hours before sex. I don't usually know in advance exactly when I would be needing a power boost, so if using Cialis I can see would have to take a daily topup small dose. As I choose to use only on occasions, I prefer the faster acting Kamagra in a small dose. It would start having effect after 30 mins or sometimes less, therefore only a short time into any very extended sex session. It costs very little used this way.
A daily very small dose of Cialis sounds like a very sensible approach if the price is good. Realistically, its not going to be working after 3 days. I think that post was exaggerating.
[QUOTE=Margaya;1376850]then add cost of mongering / food / tips etc and I can easily see it exceed $4400.[/QUOTE]I think you need to recalculate this.
In all these areas it is less expensive in Thailand than Canada, as things are often much cheaper in the former.
Tipping is unnecessary in Asian countries like LOS & PI. Unlike in the Western world, it is generally not a part of their cultures.
I assume you would also eat food if you stayed in Canada rather than travelling. In fact you could easily spend less on food while overseas, hence save money on food expenses due to eating in LOS instead of Canada.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1377694]I wasn't aware that Cialis was available in such small doses. Apcalis seems to be 20 mg. And I had assumed that Cialis would be the same.
It would certainly be well past its highest pontency at 36 hours but some weak effect still remaining.
I saw it is suggested to take at least 2 hours before sex. I don't usually know in advance exactly when I would be needing a power boost, so if using Cialis I can see would have to take a daily topup small dose. As I choose to use only on occasions, I prefer the faster acting Kamagra in a small dose. It would start having effect after 30 mins or sometimes less, therefore only a short time into any very extended sex session. It costs very little used this way.
A daily very small dose of Cialis sounds like a very sensible approach if the price is good. Realistically, its not going to be working after 3 days. I think that post was exaggerating.[/QUOTE]Cialis is available in an even smaller dose. 2.5mg. It and the 5mg doses are intended to be taken once every 24 hours. Information available on the Cialis website or do a search on Cialis for BPH (enlarged prostate). The treatment is FDA approved. You are correct in pointing out that big pharm works very hard to find new applications for existing drugs. They even encourage physicians to prescribe their drugs (without FDA approval) for "other" conditions. I've contacted manufacturers a Tadalafil (generic Cialis). Can not find one who does less than 10mg dose.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1377603]LOL. Yeah man you took too much. My barber said he had to go to the emergency room once from taking too much. He said it was very embarrassing and he will never take that shit again.[/QUOTE]I had a boss who was a fucking hag *****. I will never forget I was in her office that day and had the big woody. There was no way I was going to get up from my chair and let her see it. She would think her looks excited me and I could never live that down.
I sat for awhile as if I was going over some notes, before I was able to adjust myself and get things to settle down somewhat and remove myself fom her office.
[b]BJ Delivery Service. W4m. 28 (Bangkok. Sukhumvit).28[/b]
Petite and attractive female available to meet you in Sukhumvit area for BJ service. I like and will make sure you happy. Deep, wet and full service delivered to you. Please contact for more info.
Location: Bangkok. Sukhumvit
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1377977][b]BJ Delivery Service. W4m. 28 (Bangkok. Sukhumvit).28[/b]
Petite and attractive female available to meet you in Sukhumvit area for BJ service. I like and will make sure you happy. Deep, wet and full service delivered to you. Please contact for more info.
Location: Bangkok. Sukhumvit[/QUOTE]Sounds good.
We expect a full report in the morning.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1377977][b]BJ Delivery Service. W4m. 28 (Bangkok. Sukhumvit).28[/b]
Petite and attractive female available to meet you in Sukhumvit area for BJ service. I like and will make sure you happy. Deep, wet and full service delivered to you. Please contact for more info.
Location: Bangkok. Sukhumvit[/QUOTE]What a very helpful post full of all the detail on how to contact the lady, what she looks like and details of her service and a photograph.
Wishful thinking but given the time some seem to spend on here playing posting ping pong they probably don't have much time to try out BJ services.
Saw this posted somewhere, these girls advertize on Craiglist and some dude posted their pics. [b]LB ALERT[/b]
http://bangkok.craigslist.co.th/cas/3561098149.html
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1377992]Sounds good.
We expect a full report in the morning.[/QUOTE]Of course. Thing is though, I can't confirm which morning it's going to be, but don't hold your breath LOL
[QUOTE=Scorchin1470; 1377995]What a very helpful post full of all the detail on how to contact the lady, what she looks like and details of her service and a photograph.
Wishful thinking but given the time some seem to spend on here playing posting ping pong they probably don't have much time to try out BJ services.[/QUOTE]It's very helpful. You just go to CL and look the same way I did when Nic posted one of those before. The girl was not a hooker and looking for a LTR. She came to meet me and she was a regular educated non-pro with a car and a good job. Very surprising that she had put her pictures on there. I thought it was a scam at first, but wasn't. Leading you to water should be enough. He shouldn't have to show you how to drink as well.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1378006]Saw this posted somewhere, these girls advertize on Craiglist and some dude posted their pics. [b]LB ALERT[/b]
[url]http://bangkok.craigslist.co.th/cas/3561098149.html[/url][/QUOTE]I have fucked both of them.
Pam twice. She has a car and one time she met me at the airport.
They are both great pieces of ass and very nice.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1378006]Saw this posted somewhere, these girls advertize on Craiglist and some dude posted their pics. [b]LB ALERT[/b]
[url]http://bangkok.craigslist.co.th/cas/3561098149.html[/url][/QUOTE]Not sure why you posted this. The darker skinned looks quite normal. The other one clearly has fakes and not the most stunning thing around.
If you think it is a LB then should not be promoting them.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1377019]Also worth pointing out is that what you save on airfare you will pay towards mongering. Those girls in CR want $100 for short time. In BKK you can get short time for $30 or less. I'm not one of those guys who claim the States to be sex prison. I've never been one to monger simply because I can't get pussy in the States. I've never had a problem getting chicks. For me it is the entire package deal of being in another place. The feeling I get when I'm in Brazil or Colombia or Thailand. The food that I'm eating there. The different people and how they act. Hell I can stick my dick into a hole anywhere on earth. But there are different strokes for different folks; some like Pepsi and some like Coke.[/QUOTE]True. The ST in CR is $100 and its not as good as in BKK for service. But variety / big boobs and hot asses are much better in CR. Plus the outdoor activities. So muc to see and experience. Funny you mention coke vs Pepsi. I actually drink while in Asia and Pepsi in North america.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1377008]Of course its too far. Likewise I am not mongering in South America as is just too far for me, not coming from that part of the world. Its worth pointing out that if you need a tooth crown or root canals done, the cost savings in Thailand pays a large portion of your airfare or possibly all of it in my case (not as far).
Well thats a good point. However due to air fare difference, Thailand would be a no go for me as compared to cheaper places around.
I save a lot by doing all dentist visits in Thailand over my home country.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1377288]Or if a guy likes LT he can have a TG for 100 to 200 USD or less.
In Canada he's looking at 10 times as much.[/QUOTE]Agree but I prefer ST. The advantage of being local included go for it when one wants. The variety in Toronto mind boggling. And at $200-$250 an hour, it is as good as it gets. Thailand is reaching close to $100 ST as well.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1377277]Perhaps you can be more economical.
Airfare YVR to BKK with CP, economy class, roughly $800 CAD.
Hotel in Pattaya for 2 weeks, about $420.
Beach road SWs, twice daily for 14 days, $410.
Taxis & food another $300, or much less if you eat Thai style.
Total cost for the trip under $2000 CAD.
Cost in Canada for the same amount of pussy maybe $6000. Plus travel costs. And what about researching the SP's, their restrictions, feminist attitudes?
As a bonus, if one likes massage, in LOS you can get one hour for $10. In Canada it will be way more.[/QUOTE]Some Good Points there but the airfare is the biggest killer. The cheapest return ticket on YKK BKK sector is not less than $1700 at any time of the year. Hotels / sex / tips for sex (not for waiters silly) /food easily triple that. Something I don't have to calculate when I am home in Canada. Plus the 2/3 weeks of vacation time.
I have never visited Pats so far, will check it out for a night time and if it turns out to be my cup of tea, will certainly be quite cheaper than Bangkok.
I am OK for spending $2K-$3k on one vacation but $4-$5k is over the top considering I do need more vacations in rest of 11 months
[QUOTE=Margaya; 1378415]Agree but I prefer ST. The advantage of being local included go for it when one wants. The variety in Toronto mind boggling. And at $200-$250 an hour, it is as good as it gets. Thailand is reaching close to $100 ST as well.
That is BS about $100 now in Thailand. Unless you don't know what the fuck you are doing.
I can fuck 5 girls in Pattaya for less than $100. Of course, like you admit, you have never even been there.
Also, Thailand is head and heels above CR. Not even close.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1378652]That is BS about $100 now in Thailand. Unless you don't know what the fuck you are doing.
I can fuck 5 girls in Pattaya for less than $100. Of course, like you admit, you have never even been there.
Also, Thailand is head and heels above CR. Not even close.[/QUOTE]Right. While Short time plus bar fine plus your drinks plus lady drinks can easily add up to US$100, or more, you can readily find free lancers for half that, or less.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1377694]I wasn't aware that Cialis was available in such small doses. Apcalis seems to be 20 mg.[/QUOTE]As far as I know Apcalis is only available in 20mg doses and in 4-pill packing. No idea about the original Cialis. But I think Cialis retails in Thailand for B1000-1500 or so. Seems there are also not so many legit generic Cialis copies around. Apcalis is at least a legit generic. I do worry about any fake medical stuff from China. For lower doses I can still split a pill. Though, I did that once with Apcalis and didn't notice anything.
[QUOTE=Margaya;1378415]True. The ST in CR is $100 and its not as good as in BKK for service. But variety / big boobs and hot asses are much better in CR. Plus the outdoor activities. So muc to see and experience.[/QUOTE]True there are positives & negatives to any place you can go. Thailand is a spinner heaven, rather than a big boob paradise. I'd suggest nearby Angeles City for more of the latter. Outside of BKK in LOS, such as Phuket, may be better suited for outdoor fun.
[QUOTE=Margaya;1378415]Agree but I prefer ST. The advantage of being local included go for it when one wants. The variety in Toronto mind boggling. And at $200-$250 an hour, it is as good as it gets. Thailand is reaching close to $100 ST as well.[/QUOTE]Good points. The Gogo prices in BKK & Pattaya have gone up in recent years, approaching your number when BF & drinks are added in. FLs is the economical way to go & I prefer ST as well, or no more than 2 hours usually.
[QUOTE=Margaya;1378415]Some Good Points there but the airfare is the biggest killer. The cheapest return ticket on YKK BKK sector is not less than $1700 at any time of the year.[/QUOTE]I don't know if orbiz dot com is any good, but found this there:
For $1434 CAD, TO to Washington to Tokyo to BKK. 28 hrs total, via United airlines.
Or $1451, TO to Tokyo to BKK. 22. 5 hrs, via Air Canada & Thai airways.
[QUOTE=Margaya;1378415]Hotels / sex / tips for sex (not for waiters silly) /food easily triple that. Something I don't have to calculate when I am home in Canada. Plus the 2/3 weeks of vacation time.[/QUOTE]After airfare the sex will be a major expense. Though tipping is unnecessary in LOS & PI. Re food you have to eat no matter where you are, so that should probably not be counted as an extra expense beyond what you'ld spend on a couch potato holiday in Toronto.
[QUOTE=Margaya; 1378415]I have never visited Pats so far, will check it out for a night time and if it turns out to be my cup of tea, will certainly be quite cheaper than Bangkok.
I am OK for spending $2K-$3k on one vacation but $4-$5k is over the top considering I do need more vacations in rest of 11 months[/QUOTE]Good luck with that. I think it is doable, especially in Pattaya, Phnom Penh or Angeles City in the Philippines. Another advantage of all these places, and something you may not find in Canada, are the BBBJ (or CBJ if you prefer) bars. In AC you can get a few hours for under $20.
I don't know if the clip has been posted to Youtube, but last night, SNL did a moc-advertisement for Rosetta Stone. It had me rolling on the floor. In the "commercial" a half dozen men said they were learning Thai for "business."
Best,
Helpmann :)
Here you go.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaT8H3j0GtE[/url]
[QUOTE=Helpmann; 1378821]I don't know if the clip has been posted to Youtube, but last night, SNL did a moc-advertisement for Rosetta Stone. It had me rolling on the floor. In the "commercial" a half dozen men said they were learning Thai for "business."
Best,
Helpmann.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1378652]That is BS about $100 now in Thailand. Unless you don't know what the fuck you are doing.
I can fuck 5 girls in Pattaya for less than $100. Of course, like you admit, you have never even been there.
Also, Thailand is head and heels above CR. Not even close.[/QUOTE]I have to disagree. I have been to CR. From the available pool the average girls in CR are definitely better looking and built. But in LOS the numbers of available girls sheer outnumber CR, but on average they are not as good looking. But then, each to their taste. Of course, price was LOS wins.
[QUOTE=DayNight;1378742]As far as I know Apcalis is only available in 20mg doses and in 4-pill packing. No idea about the original Cialis. But I think Cialis retails in Thailand for B1000-1500 or so. Seems there are also not so many legit generic Cialis copies around. Apcalis is at least a legit generic. I do worry about any fake medical stuff from China. For lower doses I can still split a pill. Though, I did that once with Apcalis and didn't notice anything.[/QUOTE]Apcalis is available in both 10 mg and 20 mg.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1378652][QUOTE=Margaya; 1378415]Agree but I prefer ST. The advantage of being local included go for it when one wants. The variety in Toronto mind boggling. And at $200-$250 an hour, it is as good as it gets. Thailand is reaching close to $100 ST as well.
That is BS about $100 now in Thailand. Unless you don't know what the fuck you are doing.
I can fuck 5 girls in Pattaya for less than $100. Of course, like you admit, you have never even been there.
Also, Thailand is head and heels above CR. Not even close.[/QUOTE]Only the FLs were dirt cheap in Bangkok for me, at MPs like Mango and Snowhite 1500+400+300-500 (tip) does come out to be around 2200-2500 which is getting close to $100, isn't it? I have had excellent one hour sex in CR MPs for $35-$50 as well.
I will appreciate If you can point me to some places to pick up girls in Bangkok for an hour or so in my hotel room during day time, for 1500 bahts all inclusive.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1378919]I have to disagree. I have been to CR. From the available pool the average girls in CR are definitely better looking and built. But in LOS the numbers of available girls sheer outnumber CR, but on average they are not as good looking. But then, each to their taste. Of course, price was LOS wins.[/QUOTE]Guys. CR is not a recognised standard abbrev. It would nice to let all of us know what the topic is. Like I don't know if you refer to Costa Rica, Czech Republic or what?
[QUOTE=Margaya; 1379036.
I will appreciate If you can point me to some places to pick up girls in Bangkok for an hour or so in my hotel room during day time, for 1500 bahts all inclusive.[/QUOTE]
Just stand on any street corner around upper Sukhumvit area and look bewildered, or go down to China town area, much cheaper.
I have been here now 10 days. Back in BKK from Phuket.
Here are my totals so far:
15 foot massages (yes, I like them alot)
7 oily massages.
6 BBBJ's only.
24 fucks.
17 cum shots.
I have mentioned before, I don't always cum. I just like BBBJ, or fucking pussy. just because. I usually start the day with a BBBJ or some pussy, hit another spot for some pussy in the afternoon, and cum later in the evening. Most days I can get 2 cum shots.
My record of BBBJ and fucking pussy is 40 over a 14 day trip. It will be close. One issue may be the TLL girl who wants to stay with me. We will see.
Not bad for 58 and no Viagra? I don't know.
And don't ask me how much it cost. I don't know and don't care. I am having too much fun.
[QUOTE=Margaya; 1379036]Only the FLs were dirt cheap in Bangkok for me, at MPs like Mango and Snowhite 1500+400+300-500 (tip) does come out to be around 2200-2500 which is getting close to $100, isn't it? I have had excellent one hour sex in CR MPs for $35-$50 as well.
I will appreciate If you can point me to some places to pick up girls in Bangkok for an hour or so in my hotel room during day time, for 1500 bahts all inclusive.[/QUOTE]Streetwalkers are available around NEP and lower sukhumvit soi 3 to 5 in BKK. Also freelancers at places like the Beergarden soi 7. Usually they'll take 1000 Baht ($33 CDN) for ST.
That price for Costa Rica (CR) sounds appealing and I suppose airfare from Canada would be cheaper than to LOS, although the security report for the country is terrible:
[url]http://travel.gc.ca/destinations/costa-rica[/url]
"The Costa Rican government is actively trying to discourage sex tourism."
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1379131]Guys. CR is not a recognised standard abbrev. It would nice to let all of us know what the topic is. Like I don't know if you refer to Costa Rica, Czech Republic or what?[/QUOTE]CR- Costa Rica
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1379194]My record of BBBJ and fucking pussy is 40 over a 14 day trip. It will be close. One issue may be the TLL girl who wants to stay with me. We will see.
Not bad for 58 and no Viagra? I don't know.
And don't ask me how much it cost. I don't know and don't care. I am having too much fun.[/QUOTE]And yet you're still able to type out a coherent sentence. Sir, I salute you and your endurance. Can you walk OK?
And I second your conclusion. Damn the cost if you're fine with it and having fun.
I can't take a shit. This is a problem I have on every trip. It has been 3 1/2 days. Maybe my age?
I have tried metamucil, ducolax, prunes, fruit, lots of water. Nothing is working.
I am desperate. Maybe if I go to Nana tonight and hire a LB to stick his Dick up my ass it will loosen things up. What you guys think? For medical purposes of course.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1379194]I have been here now 10 days. Back in BKK from Phuket.
Here are my totals so far:
15 foot massages (yes, I like them alot)
7 oily massages.
6 BBBJ's only.
24 fucks.
17 cum shots.
I have mentioned before, I don't always cum. I just like BBBJ, or fucking pussy. Just because. I usually start the day with a BBBJ or some pussy, hit another spot for some pussy in the afternoon, and cum later in the evening. Most days I can get 2 cum shots.
My record of BBBJ and fucking pussy is 40 over a 14 day trip. It will be close. One issue may be the TLL girl who wants to stay with me. We will see.
Not bad for 58 and no Viagra? I don't know.
And don't ask me how much it cost. I don't know and don't care. I am having too much fun.[/QUOTE]Sir I can only think of one thing RESPECT. I will be happy to do that too.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1379668]I can't take a shit. This is a problem I have on every trip. It has been 3 1/2 days. Maybe my age?
I have tried metamucil, ducolax, prunes, fruit, lots of water. Nothing is working.
I am desperate. Maybe if I go to Nana tonight and hire a LB to stick his Dick up my ass it will loosen things up. What you guys think? For medical purposes of course.[/QUOTE]The LB is a good idea
Go ahead LOL.
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[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1379668]I am desperate. Maybe if I go to Nana tonight and hire a LB to stick his Dick up my ass it will loosen things up. What you guys think? For medical purposes of course.[/QUOTE]Medical or not. You still taking it up the ass.
I would say go to McDonald's. That always does the trick for me and a much better choice than getting you oil checked! Just saying.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1379668]I can't take a shit. This is a problem I have on every trip. It has been 3 1/2 days. Maybe my age?
I have tried metamucil, ducolax, prunes, fruit, lots of water. Nothing is working.
I am desperate. Maybe if I go to Nana tonight and hire a LB to stick his Dick up my ass it will loosen things up. What you guys think? For medical purposes of course.[/QUOTE]I find strong coffee always works for me. I'm guessing you drink coffee? If not slam a few espresso's down you and see what happens. Would be a lot less intrusive then the LB route.
Regards,
BJ
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1379668]I can't take a shit. This is a problem I have on every trip. It has been 3 1/2 days. Maybe my age?
I have tried metamucil, ducolax, prunes, fruit, lots of water. Nothing is working.
I am desperate. Maybe if I go to Nana tonight and hire a LB to stick his Dick up my ass it will loosen things up. What you guys think? For medical purposes of course.[/QUOTE]Go down the street to the local pharmacy. Tell the man behind the counter your problem. They sell a bottle of "stuff" that works wonders. I do not know the name, comes in a small bottle about 12oz. The label is all in Thai. The stuff tastes like a combination of gasoline and paint thinner. You drink about 4 to 6 ozs and your problem will be solved.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1380105]I find strong coffee always works for me. I'm guessing you drink coffee? If not slam a few espresso's down you and see what happens. Would be a lot less intrusive then the LB route.
Regards,
BJ[/QUOTE]Thanks everyone. Coffee usually does the trick. Many cups of Starbuck's large though have not been solving the problem.
I took a baby dump, but still very stuffed up.
Maybe I should eat some Thai food or bugs off the street and just let it fly.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1379668]I can't take a shit. This is a problem I have on every trip. It has been 3 1/2 days. Maybe my age?
I have tried metamucil, ducolax, prunes, fruit, lots of water. Nothing is working.
I am desperate. Maybe if I go to Nana tonight and hire a LB to stick his Dick up my ass it will loosen things up. What you guys think? For medical purposes of course.[/QUOTE]Did you try dates? (I mean the fruit, as the "social" date does not seem to lack in your agenda) - Also the coconut milk based soup might help (Som-ka-ga)
[QUOTE=Lord Farquard;1380417]Go down the street to the local pharmacy. Tell the man behind the counter your problem. They sell a bottle of "stuff" that works wonders. I do not know the name, comes in a small bottle about 12oz. The label is all in Thai. The stuff tastes like a combination of gasoline and paint thinner. You drink about 4 to 6 ozs and your problem will be solved.[/QUOTE]Maybe it is gasoline based. LOL
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1380518]Did you try dates? (I mean the fruit, as the "social" date does not seem to lack in your agenda) - Also the coconut milk based soup might help (Som-ka-ga)[/QUOTE]Thanks. I just found out my flight was canceled for tomorrow and they put me on one for Feb. 2. So I may have to suffer another day.
Wow, delayed for one day in Bangkok. Fuck, I am actually so happy. HAHA. I guess now another day of pussy is on the agenda.
I tried prunes, but nothing. I think this is the worse ever. Maybe an intestinal blockage?
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1380522]I tried prunes, but nothing. I think this is the worse ever. Maybe an intestinal blockage?[/QUOTE]God you still haven't been able to crap properly so you come here and pollute the forum with your shit (Pun intended).
Go see a massage place that does Colonics and Abdominal massages, they're going to clean you up properly and you'll see stuff coming out you ate when you were a kid.
Has anyone tried this new Thai government sponsored ED drug? Cheap and looks like Viagra.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1380522]Thanks. I just found out my flight was canceled for tomorrow and they put me on one for Feb. 2. So I may have to suffer another day.
Wow, delayed for one day in Bangkok. Fuck, I am actually so happy. HAHA. I guess now another day of pussy is on the agenda.
I tried prunes, but nothing. I think this is the worse ever. Maybe an intestinal blockage?[/QUOTE]When you return home (assuming the USA) , see an internal medicine or a gastroentorologist specialist ASAP. If you are eating regularly and haven't had enough come through your system, there could be a serious blockage some where in your GI track. It ain't no laughing matter and serious damage can be taking place with your other organs like your liver, kidneys and spleen that process food and waste in the body.
[QUOTE=Rodwint2;1380763]When you return home (assuming the USA) , see an internal medicine or a gastroentorologist specialist ASAP.[/QUOTE]Or for much cheaper results, do it while you are still in Thailand.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1380776]Or for much cheaper results, do it while you are still in Thailand.[/QUOTE]The problem is one of time and capabilities. Blood tests take a few days and he will be gone by then. Also, if a MRI or Catscan is needed, scheduling takes time and getting the results evaluated are much better done in the US by a trained doctor, not one who got his education by some third world university.
Think of it in these terms, What is the value of your life? Want to take a chance in Thailand or the US. Simple procedures, no problem, but when you life may be at stake most folks would opt to take the a chance in the US versus Thailand.
The only humor I find in the situation is that a senior member like Luvpuss will find out what the term. "Blow it out your ass" literally means.
Have you tried the little ass sprayer thing in your hotel bathroom?
I'm serious-squirt the water right in the middle of your hole for about 5-10 second of straight water flow in there and soon enough, it will be gushing out.
Well-it works for me
[QUOTE=Rodwint2;1380795]The problem is one of time and capabilities. Blood tests take a few days and he will be gone by then. Also, if a MRI or Catscan is needed, scheduling takes time and getting the results evaluated are much better done in the US by a trained doctor, not one who got his education by some third world university.[/QUOTE]Bumrungrad can do analyses a lot quicker than you seem to think. I know for a fact almost all the Doctors, dentists and optometrists in Thailand, and the Philippines for that matter, are trained in Europe or USA and not "some third world University".
Regards,
BJ
[QUOTE=Rodwint2;1380795].Think of it in these terms, What is the value of your life? Want to take a chance in Thailand or the US. Simple procedures, no problem, but when you life may be at stake most folks would opt to take the a chance in the US versus Thailand.[/QUOTE]What makes you think that US doctors are better. Plenty of horror stories around. US is good for making the doctors and the insurance company rich. There is no exclusivity regarding their competence. Yes, Third world countries do have some great doctors with less than half the price.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1381136]What makes you think that US doctors are better. Plenty of horror stories around. US is good for making the doctors and the insurance company rich. There is no exclusivity regarding their competence. Yes, Third world countries do have some great doctors with less than half the price.[/QUOTE]I don't totally disagree with you and Dr. BJ in general. However, if you looked at the situation he was facing, a few days in BKK left and the time that would have been spent finding, much less scheduling a doctor or specialist and getting tests done, he would have very little time left to pursue his favorite hobby.
Also, if he does have medical insurance coverage, LP can go to his own doctor or specialist in his community that he would find more accountable to him, rather than a doctor who will never see him again. I was merely being practical as well.
[QUOTE=Rodwint2;1381195]Also, if he does have medical insurance coverage, LP can go to his own doctor or specialist in his community that he would find more accountable to him, rather than a doctor who will never see him again. I was merely being practical as well.[/QUOTE]If he goes to an "international" hospital (Bumrungrad) most insurance companies will honor his expense. I have submitted several doctor and dentist bills to my insurance company and they have paid for the treatment with no questions asked, just make sure that the reason for the treatment is explained. It is not fun to try and enjoy a vacation when you are in pain.
[QUOTE=Lord Farquard;1381202]If he goes to an "international" hospital (Bumrungrad) most insurance companies will honor his expense. I have submitted several doctor and dentist bills to my insurance company and they have paid for the treatment with no questions asked, just make sure that the reason for the treatment is explained. It is not fun to try and enjoy a vacation when you are in pain.[/QUOTE]Thank you for this information. It is very good to have such information when traveling in town for business or fun. When it was mentioned previously, no description of what Bumrungrad was given, so I was unaware it was even a hospital. I thought it was just a clinic some of you frequented.
[QUOTE=Rodwint2; 1381195]I don't totally disagree with you and Dr. BJ in general. However, if you looked at the situation he was facing, a few days in BKK left and the time that would have been spent finding, much less scheduling a doctor or specialist and getting tests done, he would have very little time left to pursue his favorite hobby.
Also, if he does have medical insurance coverage, LP can go to his own doctor or specialist in his community that he would find more accountable to him, rather than a doctor who will never see him again. I was merely being practical as well.[/QUOTE]Have you ever had medical work done in Bumrungrad or Bangkok Hospital?
[QUOTE=Rodwint2;1380763]When you return home (assuming the USA) , see an internal medicine or a gastroentorologist specialist ASAP. If you are eating regularly and haven't had enough come through your system, there could be a serious blockage some where in your GI track. It ain't no laughing matter and serious damage can be taking place with your other organs like your liver, kidneys and spleen that process food and waste in the body.[/QUOTE]If you are from seattle go to the tummy temple they are the ones who reamed my ass and you should have seen the crap flow LOL well maybe you shouldn't see it but it worked and I was stuffed full of shit for a week ugg.
Now I'm so proud of my shits I even take pictures and send out birth announcements.
[QUOTE=Pita123;1381305]Have you ever had medical work done in Bumrungrad or Bangkok Hospital?[/QUOTE]No. Thankfully, I have never gotten ill to the extent that I needed any medical assistance in BKK.
[QUOTE=Rodwint2;1381321]No. Thankfully, I have never gotten ill to the extent that I needed any medical assistance in BKK.[/QUOTE]So basically, you are talking out your ass at the expense of luvpuss' ass.
[QUOTE=Pita123;1381323]So basically, you are talking out your ass at the expense of luvpuss' ass.[/QUOTE]ISG has been turned into the International Shit Guide. Enough of the toilet bowl talk. Move on.
[quote=jessejames;1381325]isg has been turned into the international shit guide. enough of the toilet bowl talk. move on.[/quote]you got something against rep001?
[QUOTE=JesseJames;1381325]ISG has been turned into the International Shit Guide. Enough of the toilet bowl talk. Move on.[/QUOTE]At Bumrungrad, they have bum specialists and surgeons. Hence the name of the hospital.
A few years ago I had a piece of mine removed there. A blood clot issue, I forget the technical name.
Cost only a few hundred bucks.
Had 4 nurses in the room assisting the doctor while he performed the procedure, one who had her body pressed up against me so I wouldn't move while the cutting occured. So a comparable experience to Dr. BJs.
The EI looking surgeon was joking around in Thai & laughing with the nurses while I screamed. Something about a hairy ass, I guess. I told him I was going to Thai box him & he suddenly became very serious.
[QUOTE=Rodwint2;1381195](...) the time that would have been spent finding, much less scheduling a doctor or specialist and getting tests done, he would have very little time left to pursue his favorite hobby.[/QUOTE]But he might have found a sexy nurse! And get his "treatment" paid for by his insurance.
[QUOTE=Pita123;1381323]So basically, you are talking out your ass at the expense of luvpuss' ass.[/QUOTE]Jeez-o Don't you think you are jumping at the guy's throat a bit? All he was saying was cheers for the heads up, if I ever fall foul of accident or disease whilst in Bangkok I can rest assured that my insurance will cover me and the Hospital itself is of a good standard. Why do you find the need to criticize him for this?
Regards,
BJ
[QUOTE=Pita123;1381305]Have you ever had medical work done in Bumrungrad or Bangkok Hospital?[/QUOTE]And yes the facilities, treatment and expertise of the medical staff is comparable and in some ways more caring than that available in US private hospitals and
UK Nuffield facilities. Above all the medical staff have time and spend time with you.
Remember that some of so-called third world facilities are designed to attract tourists and visitors because they have as good if not better facilities than national hospitals.
Specifically I have no experience of 'local' Thai facilities available for Thai nationals although various reports suggest taht they are good.
[quote=pita123;1381332]you got something against rep001?[/quote]change your handle to: toiletbowlboy. it suits you better.
[QUOTE=Pita123;1381323]So basically, you are talking out your ass at the expense of luvpuss' ass.[/QUOTE]No, just giving him some advice. It is up to him to take it or leave it. It is the other commentators like you who seem to know much more about using hospitals and medical clinics in Bangkok who seem to take offense at my suggestion. If you had taken time to look at my posts, you would have seen that I happen to care about what happens to someone who was in distress and may not understand the serious nature of his problem. Pita, in your case you might ask the hospital there if they do personality transplants.
Dunno if it's the right place to write this but my friend Crazyswede who posted a few reports and pictures here. Passed away last Sunday in a motor bike accident.
He was really crazy. But a fantastic and unique guy.
R. I. P my dear friend
[QUOTE=Marteau; 1381582]Dunno if it's the right place to write this but my friend Crazyswede who posted a few reports and pictures here. Passed away last Sunday in a motor bike accident.
He was really crazy. But a fantastic and unique guy.
R. I. P my dear friend[/QUOTE]Rest in Peace to our monger brother. Did the accident take place on his home turf or abroad?
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1381584]Rest in Peace to our monger brother. Did the accident take place on his home turf or abroad?[/QUOTE]He lived was in LOS since 2 years now.
He died in an accident near his village by Surin on his way back from the Buriram Big Bike Show.
Let our thoughts go out to his pregnant wife, his family and friends.
While we are on this medical subject, a few months back I downloaded that BBC ladyboy special and watched it. They had a doctor that has his own practice. He said that when he worked at the government hospital he got from 30 minutes for lunch. Now that he has his own place he only gets 5 minutes. With this guy having so much experience and so many surgeries I decided to have a friend call him up and ask about a price for doing vasectomies since I am in the market for one. I found it surprising that he could chop off a dick but his clinic did not do the simple vasectomy procedure. The cheapest quote I have gotten so far was from Sriracha Hospital for 20000 baht. I have read on the internet of places for 10000 baht and yet still others for 3000 baht, but I haven't come across any place as such in my research.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1381616]While we are on this medical subject, a few months back I downloaded that BBC ladyboy special and watched it. They had a doctor that has his own practice. He said that when he worked at the government hospital he got from 30 minutes for lunch. Now that he has his own place he only gets 5 minutes. With this guy having so much experience and so many surgeries I decided to have a friend call him up and ask about a price for doing vasectomies since I am in the market for one. I found it surprising that he could chop off a dick but his clinic did not do the simple vasectomy procedure. The cheapest quote I have gotten so far was from Sriracha Hospital for 20000 baht. I have read on the internet of places for 10000 baht and yet still others for 3000 baht, but I haven't come across any place as such in my research.[/QUOTE]It is a simple procedure, but my suggestion is to go to the best Doctor. That is an area I wouldn't want to fuck with to save money.
But if you want to save money, take 4 Vicodin, get a medical book and do it yourself. A simple cut of your vas deferens, and you are good to go.
[QUOTE=Marteau; 1381582]Dunno if it's the right place to write this but my friend Crazyswede who posted a few reports and pictures here. Passed away last Sunday in a motor bike accident.
He was really crazy. But a fantastic and unique guy.
R. I. P my dear friend[/QUOTE]What a tragic loss. I have always loved motorcycles and now Thailand as well. I can't even begin to imagine how his family are feeling. How old was the guy?
Regards,
BJ
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1381616]I found it surprising that he could chop off a dick but his clinic did not do the simple vasectomy procedure. The cheapest quote I have gotten so far was from Sriracha Hospital for 20000 baht. I have read on the internet of places for 10000 baht and yet still others for 3000 baht, but I haven't come across any place as such in my research.[/QUOTE]You do realize that one is plastic surgery and the other is urology or some such? A master pastry chef may suck when it comes to grilling the perfect steak.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1381618]It is a simple procedure, but my suggestion is to go to the best Doctor. That is an area I wouldn't want to fuck with to save money.
But if you want to save money, take 4 Vicodin, get a medical book and do it yourself. A simple cut of your vas deferens, and you are good to go.[/QUOTE]Put your balls in a drawer and slam it close?
AND, make sure you are tested after you had the procedure. You may still be shooting baby sperms. It happens.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1381618]It is a simple procedure, but my suggestion is to go to the best Doctor. That is an area I wouldn't want to fuck with to save money.
But if you want to save money, take 4 Vicodin, get a medical book and do it yourself. A simple cut of your vas deferens, and you are good to go.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1381616]I found it surprising that he could chop off a dick but his clinic did not do the simple vasectomy procedure.[/QUOTE]Too much risk for medical errors: you go in for a simple vasectomy and leave as a ladyboy.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1381969]Put your balls in a drawer and slam it close?[/QUOTE]Yes, that will work. 5 Vicodin should do the trick.
[QUOTE=Jgm005;1381989]AND, make sure you are tested after you had the procedure. You may still be shooting baby sperms. It happens.[/QUOTE]After mine, I was showing up everyday to check for sperm. The nurse was hot and the fuck magazines were great. I figured if I was going to jackoff anyway, why not there.
I have gone to many places.
In my opinion for everything; atmosphere, etc, the best place for a good burger is Gulliver's. $240 B for a big burger, fries, cole slaw.
The biggest rip off I have I think ever is Hard Rock, Phuket. 699 B for the burger. With drink and side salad, it was almost 1, 000 B.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1382023]I have gone to many places.
In my opinion for everything; atmosphere, etc, the best place for a good burger is Gulliver's. $240 B for a big burger, fries, cole slaw.
The biggest rip off I have I think ever is Hard Rock, Phuket. 699 B for the burger. With drink and side salad, it was almost 1, 000 B.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the recommendation. I had a great american style bbq ribs at Dukes in the Emporium Food Court at a very reasonable cost. Duke's burgers suppose to be good, but didn't try it. The mexican place, Sunrise Taco I think, was good as well for nachos, enchaladas and beer. I didn't see any good burger joints there, but there was the Mos Burger and Burger King for the desperate.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1380453]Maybe I should eat some Thai food or bugs off the street[/QUOTE]Maybe you could do what the Thai do. Fitne Tea. Sold practically everywhere, Boots even. Several 'flavors'.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1382008]Yes, that will work. 5 Vicodin should do the trick.[/QUOTE]Speaking of Vicodin, is it available OTC in Bangkok? Are there any reputable places to get it?
Thanks.
Pogo
Dukes is no longer there in the Emporium. As you said great ribs. I had read about it somewhere on the Internet that it was gone. And went buy a few days ago to verify that it really is gone.
Christina's Kitchen has great food. It is down Soi 20 on the right hand side about 3/4 of the way down. I've gone several times and walked to it from Soi 19.
[QUOTE=Rodwint2;1382067]Thanks for the recommendation. I had a great american style bbq ribs at Dukes in the Emporium Food Court at a very reasonable cost. Duke's burgers suppose to be good, but didn't try it. The mexican place, Sunrise Taco I think, was good as well for nachos, enchaladas and beer. I didn't see any good burger joints there, but there was the Mos Burger and Burger King for the desperate.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pogostick; 1382077]Speaking of Vicodin, is it available OTC in Bangkok? Are there any reputable places to get it?
Thanks.
Pogo[/QUOTE]No, it is not. No Zanax either.
You can get Tramadol. In 50 and 100 MG. Over the counter, no script.
Large (not the small) pharmacy corner of Nana soi 2 between gas station and Bully's pub. Vanax, valium, ambien, real Viagra and of course all the non-narcotics & germ killers. Never asked for oxy or barbs so don't know but worth a try.
For years I've only deal with a tall thin maybe 47 year old Asian guy who looks to my eye more Chinese than Thai. He's very knowledgeable.
In fact he would have been my first choice for your recent malady.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1382117]No, it is not. No Zanax either.
You can get Tramadol. In 50 and 100 MG. Over the counter, no script.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1382117]No, it is not. No Zanax either.
You can get Tramadol. In 50 and 100 MG. Over the counter, no script.[/QUOTE]You can buy Zanax without prescription. Never purchased it myself but I have a friend who buys it over the counter regularly. I think on 2 or 3 occasions I have asked him for a tablet when having trouble sleeping. I don't know where he buys it from, before anyone asks.
Regards.
BJ
[QUOTE=Rodwint2;1382067]Thanks for the recommendation. I had a great american style bbq ribs at Dukes in the Emporium Food Court at a very reasonable cost. Duke's burgers suppose to be good, but didn't try it. The mexican place, Sunrise Taco I think, was good as well for nachos, enchaladas and beer. I didn't see any good burger joints there, but there was the Mos Burger and Burger King for the desperate.[/QUOTE]1. Isn't the Dukes closed at Emporium?
2. Best Fast food style burgers in BKK is CARLS JUNIOR sukhumvit soi 24 (next to Davis Hotel)
3. Best Mid Range Burger are at FIREHOUSE sukhumvit soi 11.
4. Best upscale Burgers are at PULLMAN G (Wagyu beef Burger is fantastic)
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1382338]1. Isn't the Dukes closed at Emporium?[/QUOTE]It was only so-so.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1382338]2. Best Fast food style burgers in BKK is CARLS JUNIOR sukhumvit soi 24 (next to Davis Hotel)[/QUOTE]Have had theirs in KL and Singapore and both were so-so. I prefer Mosburger.
For Fast Food I really also love me some Nana Burger actually!
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1382338]3. Best Mid Range Burger are at FIREHOUSE sukhumvit soi 11.[/QUOTE]Agree! Think I found them through [url]http://www.bangkokburgerblog.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1382338]4. Best upscale Burgers are at PULLMAN G (Wagyu beef Burger is fantastic)[/QUOTE]haven't' tried that one. Wagyu. Mmm.
[QUOTE=Rjsss212; 1382140]Large (not the small) pharmacy corner of Nana soi 2 between gas station and Bully's pub. Vanax, valium, ambien, real Viagra and of course all the non-narcotics & germ killers. Never asked for oxy or barbs so don't know but worth a try.
For years I've only deal with a tall thin maybe 47 year old Asian guy who looks to my eye more Chinese than Thai. He's very knowledgeable.
In fact he would have been my first choice for your recent malady.[/QUOTE]Good to know, thanks.
I am back home and searching one of the local sites for a hook up. This is what I get quoted this morning:
GFE Package
500hr
All of the above (BBBJ) and.
Rimming
DFK / LFK
BLS
COF
CIM
MSOG
FIA
DATY
Wow, I will jump right on that. I miss BKK already. Need to check for flights again soon.
I get the impression from reports here that although the majority of girls on sites like dateinasia (DIA) are looking for a husband, there still is a minority who are looking for fun with farang or free shopping, or a little sponsorship (to add to their list). But how do you spot this minority, exactly? From my search, not many come out and say it (that would be impolite). I'll bet that some of the experienced DIA users have picked up on some coded ways the girls indicate what kind of action they are looking for.
For instance, any mention of the word "marriage" is obviously a negative indication. Wearing sexy clothing in a sexy pose (which you see a lot) is presumalby a positive indication (though it's not nearly 100% reliable). How about the subtler indicators?
[QUOTE=Pwrmnd; 1383912]I get the impression from reports here that although the majority of girls on sites like dateinasia (DIA) are looking for a husband, there still is a minority who are looking for fun with farang or free shopping, or a little sponsorship (to add to their list). But how do you spot this minority, exactly? From my search, not many come out and say it (that would be impolite). I'll bet that some of the experienced DIA users have picked up on some coded ways the girls indicate what kind of action they are looking for.
For instance, any mention of the word "marriage" is obviously a negative indication. Wearing sexy clothing in a sexy pose (which you see a lot) is presumalby a positive indication (though it's not nearly 100% reliable). How about the subtler indicators?[/QUOTE]What are you looking for? Many girls on there whether they say they want married or BF, are P4P.
I have met 14 girls from those sites now. 13 I fucked within the first few hours.
Most of them, if not all said they wanted to get married. That has never been a negative indicator from my experience. Sexy dress can be an indicator of P4P, but anyway you look at it, you must put in the time. Emails, phone calls, Skype, Tango, etc. Most of the girls I met claim to be professionals. Decent jobs, cars, apts. I would say 35% after several conversations came right out and said. "if I meet you, will you take care of me". Meaning they are P4P.
The one common denominator, and this is usually after the fact, is they do want or need money. Even though they look and talk good, it seems most Thai girls are in debt. Mainly credit cards. Most at some time during, or maybe a few weeks later, gave me the "my moms sick" or "I lost my job" or some reason for needing money.
Of the 14, I still communicate with and see 2. They have never asked for money, in fact they pay for some things when we are together.
[QUOTE=Pita123;1382347]I prefer Mosburger.[/QUOTE]I can't stand MOS Burger, I'd rather eat Raccoon's assholes on a stick with butter and Salsa Sauce than eat that Japanese Excuse of a Burger.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1384022]I can't stand MOS Burger, I'd rather eat Raccoon's assholes on a stick with butter and Salsa Sauce than eat that Japanese Excuse of a Burger.[/QUOTE]So please tell us in 25 words or less just how a racoons asshole tastes and is that grilled racoons asshole or racoon asshole sushi? One would also think that racoon asshole sushi would be better served over rice with wasabi instead of salsa.
I got to agree. Had one and that was it but I do have the fish or Salmon now and then.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1384022]I can't stand MOS Burger, I'd rather eat Raccoon's assholes on a stick with butter and Salsa Sauce than eat that Japanese Excuse of a Burger.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pwrmnd; 1383912]I get the impression from reports here that although the majority of girls on sites like dateinasia (DIA) are looking for a husband, there still is a minority who are looking for fun with farang or free shopping, or a little sponsorship (to add to their list). But how do you spot this minority, exactly? From my search, not many come out and say it (that would be impolite). I'll bet that some of the experienced DIA users have picked up on some coded ways the girls indicate what kind of action they are looking for.
For instance, any mention of the word "marriage" is obviously a negative indication. Wearing sexy clothing in a sexy pose (which you see a lot) is presumalby a positive indication (though it's not nearly 100% reliable). How about the subtler indicators?[/QUOTE]Sometime in the past year or so the StickmanWeekly contained a lengthy email from a guy who claimed to have extensive experience on Thai dating websites (I believe TLL was his preferred site) for many years to hook up with many, many Thai ladies. He claimed many of the ladies who appear to be looking for a husband are really looking for some fun with fringe benefits. Stickman seemed to think the email was very credible. I'd suggest browsing past posts to find this email and reading it. You may find it helpful and informative.
=Made Of Shit.
[QUOTE=Pwrmnd; 1383912]I get the impression from reports here that although the majority of girls on sites like dateinasia (DIA) are looking for a husband, there still is a minority who are looking for fun with farang or free shopping, or a little sponsorship (to add to their list). But how do you spot this minority, exactly? From my search, not many come out and say it (that would be impolite). I'll bet that some of the experienced DIA users have picked up on some coded ways the girls indicate what kind of action they are looking for.
For instance, any mention of the word "marriage" is obviously a negative indication. Wearing sexy clothing in a sexy pose (which you see a lot) is presumalby a positive indication (though it's not nearly 100% reliable). How about the subtler indicators?[/QUOTE]You are reading too much in their profiles. Many of these texts are just copies from some other DIA girl's profile. And anyhow nobody reads those profiles, much less believes what is written.
To give you a (personal) example. Two years ago I put my profile on DIA, stating clearly that I was not interested in marriage or long term relationships. 90% of all girls contacting me had a "marriage" profile. If they don't read your profile, do you think they expect you to read theirs?
Then I met my present GF on DIA. Actually it was her room-mate that was using her PC and (ab) using her DIA profile (when my GF found out she changed the passwords and switched her computer off when she was away). Her profile does not mention marriage or relationships, just "friendship" and "networking" and the rather cryptic "What you be that you and up to you, but can share.". I have no idea what she means by that. Nevertheless we met and matched and are now friends and lovers for 2 years already.
So, don't put any trust in the profiles, the only thing to do is make contact and through chat, skype, cam, ... try to find out what they mean.µ
Oh, and by the way, when I found my GF and we fell in love, I noted on my DIA profile that I was no longer looking for anyone. Do you think I got any less girls contacting me? It seems I got even more interesting to a lot of them. "Ahh, this one is a good man. He found someone on DIA, let's try if it works for me too." :D
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1382370]I am back home and searching one of the local sites for a hook up. This is what I get quoted this morning:
GFE Package
500hr
All of the above (BBBJ) and.
Rimming
DFK / LFK
BLS
COF
CIM
MSOG
FIA
DATY
Wow, I will jump right on that. I miss BKK already. Need to check for flights again soon.[/QUOTE]LETS GO! If its anything like your last trip I'm sure I can hang! . Tell me the dates
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1384093]Oh, and by the way, when I found my GF and we fell in love, I noted on my DIA profile that I was no longer looking for anyone. Do you think I got any less girls contacting me? It seems I got even more interesting to a lot of them. "Ahh, this one is a good man. He found someone on DIA, let's try if it works for me too." :D[/QUOTE]Not surprising. I always get more attention from attractive women when I am out with a woman. I think it signals that I am okay (not a pervert) because there's a woman with me; and it gets the women to compare themselves to my date and think,"I'm better looker than her, I could snag this guy." So here's a suggestion; all the guys on DIA, TLL, etc should post, wait a few weeks, then re-post as taken and wait for the flood of attention.
I believe the profile reading is a guy / girl thing.
Most guys I think are checking their photos and physical stats. Let's be honest, most are thinking whether they are fuckable or not.
My experience is the girls read the profiles. I think just about every girl I have met at some point would make a reference or asked a question about something in my profile. I basically remembered nothing about theres'.
IMHO nobody is reading the profiles. As you said the guys are physical creatures. And it stands to reason that the girls get entirely too many emails to be able to read all of those profiles. But girls always expect that you read theirs. It's funny when they ask if I read their profile and I'm like uhhhh, yeah.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1384144]IMHO nobody is reading the profiles. As you said the guys are physical creatures. And it stands to reason that the girls get entirely too many emails to be able to read all of those profiles. But girls always expect that you read theirs. It's funny when they ask if I read their profile and I'm like uhhhh, yeah.[/QUOTE]HAHA. Sounds familiar. Yes. I have gotten that alot.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1382370]I am back home and searching one of the local sites for a hook up. This is what I get quoted this morning:
GFE Package Wow, I will jump right on that. I miss BKK already. Need to check for flights again soon.[/QUOTE]I get 18-23 year olds all day long for $100-$300 LT. They stay as long as I like. Real GFE, not a pro in the bunch. I've got one regular waiting for me. 5'2" about 105 and a D-cup. Born in India raised in the US. Has a sexual appetite that puts me to shame. Only woman in my life that has the ability to actually wear me out. Actually the only one that I give $300 but it's well worth it. She actually gets a nice present from Asia. The rest get scarves.
I've got a 19 year old that lives 10 minutes form me and is available for as long as I want her for $100. Tightest thing I've had outside of Asia and she's a normal sized girl. Huge clit.
I've got a 21 year old Chinese born Japanese raised one that is available anytime for $100, she's a voluptuous girl but has huge tits and brings her own collar.
I've got another 24 year old that takes public transportation to get to my place. She's hot but I've grown tired of her.
At any given time I have 2 or more that I am actively working. Have to keep rotating stock.
I will say that it's not as easy as in Asia but once you get your skill set honed and a system established it works. It's more work than Asia but I also enjoy the challenge.
Escorts in the US can get pricey. You got to out smart them.
[QUOTE=FruitNinja; 1384195]I get 18-23 year olds all day long for $100-$300 LT. They stay as long as I like. Real GFE, not a pro in the bunch. I've got one regular waiting for me. 5'2" about 105 and a D-cup. Born in India raised in the US. Has a sexual appetite that puts me to shame. Only woman in my life that has the ability to actually wear me out. Actually the only one that I give $300 but it's well worth it. She actually gets a nice present from Asia. The rest get scarves.
I've got a 19 year old that lives 10 minutes form me and is available for as long as I want her for $100. Tightest thing I've had outside of Asia and she's a normal sized girl. Huge clit.
I've got a 21 year old Chinese born Japanese raised one that is available anytime for $100, she's a voluptuous girl but has huge tits and brings her own collar.
I've got another 24 year old that takes public transportation to get to my place. She's hot but I've grown tired of her.
At any given time I have 2 or more that I am actively working. Have to keep rotating stock.
I will say that it's not as easy as in Asia but once you get your skill set honed and a system established it works. It's more work than Asia but I also enjoy the challenge.
Escorts in the US can get pricey. You got to out smart them.[/QUOTE]You the man and I know nothing. A nice Golf clap for you.
[QUOTE=FruitNinja;1384195]I've got a 21 year old Chinese born Japanese raised one that is available anytime for $100, she's a voluptuous girl but has huge tits and brings her own collar.[/QUOTE]What exactly is a Chinese born japanese? Is that a Chinese girl who renounced her Chinese race and said Hello Kitty?
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1384240]What exactly is a Chinese born japanese? Is that a Chinese girl who renounced her Chinese race and said Hello Kitty?[/QUOTE]I thought it was a Jap girl born in China
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1384240]What exactly is a Chinese born japanese? Is that a Chinese girl who renounced her Chinese race and said Hello Kitty?[/QUOTE]Punctuation, a lost art. Chinese-born, Japanese-raised.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1384240]What exactly is a Chinese born japanese? Is that a Chinese girl who renounced her Chinese race and said Hello Kitty?[/QUOTE]She's got the Hello Kitty thing down pretty good. Just to clarify for those that didn't get it: She was born in China. Her father somehow happened to get hired at Toyota in Japan. She went with her family and was raised in Tokyo. To continue the story, he then got a job with John Deere somewhere in Iowa I think. She moved close to where I live to find her own way. When she's not in my bed she works as a waitress and also as a hostess at, get this, a Japanese KaraokeBar near the airport. Yes, they pay her to hang out with them.
Very little sleep. I think I reported that I had a great Nuru at Dr BJ's. I thank him for his hospitality and adice. Had one good pull from Baccara and then a day that just didn't work out. I still haven't decided whether I should have given her anything as some guys suggested. I've never purposely disrespected a girl but I felt that she was disrespectful and I treated her in kind. I'll play by any rules but there's no room for renegotiations after you've take your moves.
I had a good time with my two nighter. Great girl. Not the best sex but she was fun and I had to be inside her. It just felt right. She took off about 10 am. I showered up, went and had breakfast and headed over to Dr BJ's for a. BJ. Texted the good doctor and got his recommendation. I was not unhappy.
Last night the good Doctor and I went to Nana. I swore I wasn't going to pull anything as I was tired and felt it would have been a waste. Besides I had an appointment at Annie's for 12 today. All good plans.
We started out at Rainbow 4 and it was packed. Good selection but nothing clicked for him. I wasn't looking so on we went. Stopped at Billboard and saw a couple of possibilities. He was negotiating real hard with a waitress and had a good deal going. I was still in the "I'm not doing it mode." There was one little wide hipped shortie that was trying to get my attention real hard. Let's call her "N." Well the Doc tells his girl that he's going to get her tomorrow because he's going to hang out with me. Now he negotiated 1500 for 2 hours, three holes. That's some negotiations. So we go to Anglewitch and watch a little of the show. I tell him that I'm tired and he should have taken the waitress, especially at that price. So back upstairs we go. She's talking to another guy but finally comes over and they continue their talk."N" is still trying to get my attention so finally I cave. Call her over and buy her a drink. Next thing you know the negotiating starts. Well I get pretty much the same deal the Dr. Does but one less hole.
We hit it back to the hotel. All I really wanted to do was get off. Nothing elaborate. We get back we do out business, and she gets comfortable. Ohhh noo! Baby, I'm tired, got to get up and pack, eat, go get my slacks I had made, pick up my new glasses and go meet the Dr at Annie's at 12. Then back and get ready for the airport. I hated to kick her out because she was really nice but I promised to see her on my return and she was happy.
Met the Dr. At Annie's. #24 was outside and she acted like I was her long lost love. Ran down the street to greet me. Ha!
Had a great session. Amazing woman in a lot of ways. She's 20 and really has her head on right as far as what she's doing and her long term goals. Very likable girl. Great mix of GFE / PSE. She adjusts to your mood.
The Dr and I ate lunch at a great little place a little further down 4.
I'm at BKK Singapore Air lounge having some food and waiting for my flight. The trip was a great success. Still a little of a blur. I'm not used to going full blast for a month. I might be able to make some time for Songkran in April. Will see if I can get a decent rate with miles this close to travel.
BAck to the cold. Back to the warm honeys at home.
[QUOTE=FruitNinja; 1384195]I get 18-23 year olds all day long for $100-$300 LT. T.
I will say that it's not as easy as in Asia but once you get your skill set honed and a system established it works. It's more work than Asia but I also enjoy the challenge.
Escorts in the US can get pricey. You got to out smart them.[/QUOTE]These prices in USA? Give me a break. Either they are crack addled working girls desperate for any money OR you live in the boonies somewhere in the South / New Mexico desert OR a story teller spinning a joke. If it is the last, that was a good one. :-)
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1384398]These prices in USA? Give me a break. Either they are crack addled working girls desperate for any money OR you live in the boonies somewhere in the South / New Mexico desert OR a story teller spinning a joke. If it is the last, that was a good one. :-)[/QUOTE]I would guess that he lives somewhere in the middle of America where the prices are very reasonable. However it needs to be a place with a substantial visiting Japanese crowd. Hrm.
[QUOTE=Pita123; 1382347]It was only so-so.
Have had theirs in KL and Singapore and both were so-so. I prefer Mosburger.
For Fast Food I really also love me some Nana Burger actually!
Agree! Think I found them through.
[url]http://www.bangkokburgerblog.com/[/url]
Haven't' tried that one. Wagyu. Mmm.[/QUOTE]Some great burgers in BKK.
Fatty's Bar and Diner on Din Daeng Road does great burgers at amazing prices.
Firehouse on Soi 11 agree with nic here.
Bangkok Burger Company on Thong Lor is awesome.
No need to ever eat a fast food burger in BKK.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1384398]These prices in USA? Give me a break. Either they are crack addled working girls desperate for any money OR you live in the boonies somewhere in the South / New Mexico desert OR a story teller spinning a joke. If it is the last, that was a good one. :-)[/QUOTE]I've been doing it for over 8 years. I've had two of these that turned into long term, no pay, one actually moved in for a while when she was between jobs. I even have a bud that I hand off to but rarely. I have pictures of the majority of them. I live in a major metropolitan area of the states. With many universities. You just got to know the buttons to press pal. So just because you can't do it doesn't mean it's not doable. Here's one I'm not going to meet because I don't really care for blondes and her face wasn't to my liking. She also thinks she's hot shit which usually equates to "pain in the ass." 23, 5'2", says she runs a salon in the city, has a bf of two years but wants to play, wants excitement, and needs some money. Says the pic was taken in Jamaica. I can't comment on that.
The dark haired girl I will see next weekend. She's more my type. College student, little on the bigger side, but very cute. Nice personality so far. We'll see how it goes when we meet. It takes a lot of time and effort and the majority end up not being able to go through with it but ya got to be patient. I get a lot of reasonable puss and once in a while hit a home run.
Emi is nice, Jill is tight and close, Kels I'm ok with, Ash is a home run. And if you still don't believe it lets do a bet. Third party, you put up 10K, I put up 10K. We decide together what's expectable proof. I mean I've got 100's of pictures of them in my bedroom. You can't miss the wall, it's a one of a kind multi colored piece of art more than a wall. My buddy and I did a tag team on one at my place. You want your name on their asses? Now see, if I were you I would have pmed and said "dude, how do you do that?" I wouldn't tell ya anyway, but to call me out? Really?
[QUOTE=Pita123;1384411]I would guess that he lives somewhere in the middle of America where the prices are very reasonable. However it needs to be a place with a substantial visiting Japanese crowd. Hrm.[/QUOTE]Right on both parts. Add a large university population and you're even closer.
[QUOTE=FruitNinja;1384456]Right on both parts. Add a arge university population and you're even closer.[/QUOTE]Right, right on. When I'm home in the States I never pay for more than dinner, drinks, a little weekend getaway and an occasional gift and I date attractive ladies half my age. It's only when I travel that I need to pay.
It is probably too late, but anyone going to Thailand or specifically Pats over the next few weeks?
I went last year at this time and it was the biggest cluster fuck in Pattaya I have ever seen. Huge tourist buses and families at the shit beach at 7am.
Tough to even walk down the street with all the crowds.
Good luck if you are going.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1384398]These prices in USA? Give me a break. Either they are crack addled working girls desperate for any money OR you live in the boonies somewhere in the South / New Mexico desert OR a story teller spinning a joke. If it is the last, that was a good one. :-)[/QUOTE]Duniawala bhai.
I don't know much about US scene but in Toronto. 30 mins incall with Chinese girls is $5 cheaper than what I am paying for a night in hotel charges alone in Bangkok.
Top of line, out of this world stunners in state of the art hotel cost no more $260. And one gets to choose from several races and dozens and dozens of countries.
Its much better and cheaper in Montreal.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1384517]It is probably too late, but anyone going to Thailand or specifically Pats over the next few weeks?
I went last year at this time and it was the biggest cluster fuck in Pattaya I have ever seen. Huge tourist buses and families at the shit beach at 7am.
Tough to even walk down the street with all the crowds.
Good luck if you are going.[/QUOTE]Couldn't agree more! Maybe today it will be better but I won't try to find out, leaving tomorrow to the States. Last night, wanting to get some eye candy before leaving I was down at W. S. Bac. The place was packed. Upstair too! It seem every race was there, Japanese, Koreans, Chinese, I couldn't even tell and I'm one of them.
Being here as long as I have I never noticed or I went home for Chinese New Year but thinking this is Thailand and the thais seem to celebrate Chinese New Year more than the Chinese back home? Don't they have their own New Year?
LBM
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1384398]These prices in USA? Give me a break. Either they are crack addled working girls desperate for any money OR you live in the boonies somewhere in the South / New Mexico desert OR a story teller spinning a joke. If it is the last, that was a good one. :-)[/QUOTE]I don't know why people here would care about his alleged exploits in the USA.
But I think it's silly to deny there are Don Juan types out there or guys that can get desperate American ladies for cheap rates or even for free, or those that can "push the buttons" or manipulate insecure, retarded, needy or stupid girls. For example this was posted on a Vancouver escort review board called PERB the other day:
"Most girls are in the 250 range but a couple of days ago I meet a very cute young girl (21) on CL who lost her phone and we had a great time FS, DATY, BBBJ, MSOG for $115, and she apologied for charging me so much. So we'll see where that goes. She said she could see me for about 60-75 but honestly I told her my minimum was $100. Never thought I'd be a position of telling someone to charge me more. In fact I tought it might be some kind of scam. LOL"
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1384604]Being here as long as I have I never noticed or I went home for Chinese New Year but thinking this is Thailand and the thais seem to celebrate Chinese New Year more than the Chinese back home? Don't they have their own New Year?[/QUOTE]Of course they have their "own" New Year: Songkran (around 13th of April this year).
But they also celebrate "our" Western New Year, and as it seems, Chinese New Year.
Any reason to throw a party is a good reason!
Don't you just love the Thai?
What makes me laugh for Chinese New year which is another I never noticed is that the Thai put a bunch of flowers in front of their car hoods. The way they drive it seems this could be for good luck or a precurser of what's to come RiP. It seems like most things they kind of got things reverse? It's not the car that is the problem and need good luck it's the person behind the wheel!
LBM
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1384460]Right, right on. When I'm home in the States I never pay for more than dinner, drinks, a little weekend getaway and an occasional gift and I date attractive ladies half my age. It's only when I travel that I need to pay.[/QUOTE]Practically at home the restaurant and the bar get your money for the fuck. When you travel the girl gets it. Can you blame Thai girls for that? Maybe it is their income and their pussies are the working tools. Whilst at home the girls have another sort of income and can play with their pussies.
Ok, I get it now. That's what spend for your regular dates and not for P4P. I guess in one convoluted way you are right. Just like a wife is P4P also.
But as others said you could be banging crack addled desperate *****s too.
But you are the hansum one. Can't compete with you there, man.
[QUOTE=Duniawala; 1384776]Ok, I get it now. That's what spend for your regular dates and not for P4P. I guess in one convoluted way you are right. Just like a wife is P4P also.
But as others said you could be banging crack addled desperate *s too.
But you are the hansum one. Can't compete with you there, man.[/QUOTE]Right. My ex-wife was by far the most expensive P4P I ever had. But I have two great daughters which made it worth the price. The cute young ones back home looking for a relationship with me are sugar babes after my money. The silver fox is finally getting smart and doesn't let that go anywhere. Fortunately I deliberately live in a metro area of millions with an above average percentage of attractive young women. I should mention, between the dinner, drinks, weekend getaways and gifts, I spend as much or more at home on the "free" babes as on P4P girls in LOS. I spend more on P4P in the European and North American cities I travel to than the "free" babes at home.
I understand the concern among forum members about the rising costs and changes in Bangkok, but in my opinion when it comes to P4P, you're in the best spot on the planet.
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch; 1384813]Right. My ex-wife was by far the most expensive P4P I ever had. But I have two great daughters which made it worth the price. The cute young ones back home looking for a relationship with me are sugar babes after my money. The silver fox is finally getting smart and doesn't let that go anywhere. Fortunately I deliberately live in a metro area of millions with an above average percentage of attractive young women. I should mention, between the dinner, drinks, weekend getaways and gifts, I spend as much or more at home on the "free" babes as on P4P girls in LOS. I spend more on P4P in the European and North American cities I travel to than the "free" babes at home.
I understand the concern among forum members about the rising costs and changes in Bangkok, but in my opinion when it comes to P4P, you're in the best spot on the planet.[/QUOTE]I agree.
I have visited over 20 countries the past few years and BKK is still my favorite for the "overall" experience.
[quote=paul kausch; 1384813]right. my ex-wife was by far the most expensive p4p i ever had. but i have two great daughters which made it worth the price. the cute young ones back home looking for a relationship with me are sugar babes after my money. the silver fox is finally getting smart and doesn't let that go anywhere. fortunately i deliberately live in a metro area of millions with an above average percentage of attractive young women. i should mention, between the dinner, drinks, weekend getaways and gifts, i spend as much or more at home on the "free" babes as on p4p girls in los. i spend more on p4p in the european and north american cities i travel to than the "free" babes at home.
i understand the concern among forum members about the rising costs and changes in bangkok, but in my opinion when it comes to p4p, you're in the best spot on the planet.[/quote]i would agree with both, bkk is definitely a "destination." nothing wrong with pats or but i still liked bkk and manila better. manila i knew the club oner so it was better than getting mama working for you. and although i get great puss here the asians are few and far apart. i did have a shanghais born cutie for a few years. something about these girls just turn me on. guys here act like asians are gold platted and the girls have learned to use it to their advantage while at the same time wishing they had a real man that wouldn't put up to their shit. somebody to grab them by the head and ram the little head down their throat.
on the remark that these girls are somewhat retarded? i don't think so. my first time out was a 3. 8 gpa at one of the most prestigious private universities in the world. most are over achievers, smarter than their male peers, and find them ridiculous. one constant is that they have all had father issues. most of those revolve around a week father and a domineering mother. the money that i expend is minimal for the return.
Finally, an App to Help Men Measure Their Erect Penises.
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VSM Enterprises, which created the "Condom Size" app, available for Droid and iPhones, claims it's all, or mostly, about safe sex. According to its website,"This app educates the male population on the proper condom placement and helps determine proper condom size." It offers easy-to-follow instructions for how to measure your penis.
Happy Birthday, Dr. G.
I am happy with my size.
But, if you shave your hair, it visually looks about 1 inch longer.
I don't know about this part of Thailand. It is referred to as BIB, correct?
Anyway, maybe Dr. BJ can weigh in on this. Maybe he doesn't want to.
But I have seen things and I assume that is what is going on.
The Russians are grabbing money in Pattaya from businesses? Is this old style protection money? I ask because when I was there last time there were Russian goons in pairs. 6-4, 270, tats, going from business to business with pissed looks on their faces. They were entering laundries, restaurants, travel agencies, you name it. I followed a pair of these guys walking on 2nd Road. Maybe they were looking for someone?
Huh, sure did not look like it.
What I have seen in BKK is uniformed cops doing the same thing. Guys that have high rank it appears.
In the US camera repairs are rather expensive for an older camera lens like a Canon or Nikon. A basic service that "cleans, lubricates and adjusts" a lens can cost a between $75 to $150. Things being cheaper in Thailand normally, I was wondering if any of the old timers or expats living in Bangkok has had any camera repair work done by a reputable company there.
I have a few lens that need servicing and was hoping I could be able to get them serviced in a few days while on business in Bangkok.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1386533]What I have seen in BKK is uniformed cops doing the same thing. Guys that have high rank it appears.[/QUOTE]No way a high ranked officer would have anything to do with any sort of "Tea Money" business on the ground. They leave it to the small boys to handle.
However, High ranked police (and Army) visit Soapies where they usually indulge in the expensive white Thai girls for free.
As far as money, they make millions of it already from big businesses so they have no need to hustle the streets.
Does Tea money exist? Damn right. In my condominium, we have to pay the cops every month for "Protection" by giving a donation. Few k baht, nothing major, but I am sure the whole street pays.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1387434]In my condominium, we have to pay the cops every month for "Protection" by giving a donation. Few k baht, nothing major, but I am sure the whole street pays.[/QUOTE]What if something adverse happens in your building? Do you guys get a refund for failure to protect?
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1387443]What if something adverse happens in your building? Do you guys get a refund for failure to protect?[/QUOTE]I think it works slightly differently from that. I'm betting the perpetrator gets some direct attention from people he would prefer not to and the residents get a demonstration of what their money is buying. Educated guess.
Regards,
BJ
Gentlemen,
Next week I will be in Bangkok on business. I'd like to buy me a nice suit. Any good and honest tailor you can recommend? By preference somewhere at or near (lower) Sukhumvit.
I know there has been some discussion about this matter, but the search function is not friendly to me (all links are completely wrong for me. I do not know why).
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1388048]Gentlemen,
Any good and honest tailor you can recommend?[/QUOTE]I bought suits from a tailor on Silom road, just next to the Triple-two hotel (Silom road 222).36 hours (because I was not in a hurry) for two suits and four shirts. Was quite happy with the service and the quality of the work. Forgot how much I paid, but I remember it was more than reasonable (compared to European pricing).
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1388048]Gentlemen,
Next week I will be in Bangkok on business. I'd like to buy me a nice suit. Any good and honest tailor you can recommend? By preference somewhere at or near (lower) Sukhumvit.
I know there has been some discussion about this matter, but the search function is not friendly to me (all links are completely wrong for me. I do not know why).[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.dress-for-success.com/[/url] (tailor for Prez Bush)
[url]http://travel.cnn.com/bangkok/shop/5-best-bangkok-tailors-218990[/url]
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1388048]Gentlemen,
Next week I will be in Bangkok on business. I'd like to buy me a nice suit. Any good and honest tailor you can recommend? By preference somewhere at or near (lower) Sukhumvit.).[/QUOTE]Wolvenvacht,
I enjoy reading your posts mate. I've used Barons Fashion a few times over the years. They are at the intersection of Sukhumvit and Soi13. Not the cheapest but I've never been disappointed with the end result and the service (atleast for me) has been very satisfactory.
[url]http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g293916-d1217006-Reviews-George_Mike_Barons_Fashions-Bangkok.html[/url]
Best of luck,
JSS
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1388048]Gentlemen,
Next week I will be in Bangkok on business. I'd like to buy me a nice suit. Any good and honest tailor you can recommend? By preference somewhere at or near (lower) Sukhumvit.
I know there has been some discussion about this matter, but the search function is not friendly to me (all links are completely wrong for me. I do not know why).[/QUOTE]I have done business with Green Apple Tailors at the Intercontinental Arcade that is attached to the Intercontinental Hotel since 1989. A custom suit needs a couple of fittings that requires at least more than five working days. They cost a little more than the folks on the street, but they have been pretty good to me over the years.
If you are ordering a lot of stuff, make sure that you try on the finished suits, jackets and pants before you pay your bill like any place else. I have been pretty satisfied with them over the years. They do a lot of business with the Lufhansa flight crews and have a lot of European clients.
Like any place else, be very specific as to what you want in terms of the material that is used for the suit. The owner is Jerry. He is Indian and I have never had a problem. If you are a frequent visitor to Bangkok, if there is any problems, he will fix it.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1388048]Gentlemen,
Next week I will be in Bangkok on business. I'd like to buy me a nice suit. Any good and honest tailor you can recommend? By preference somewhere at or near (lower) Sukhumvit.
I know there has been some discussion about this matter, but the search function is not friendly to me (all links are completely wrong for me. I do not know why).[/QUOTE]Highly recommend Tailor on Ten, which is actually on Soi 8 ([url]http://www.tailoronten.com/[/url]). Owned by two Canadian brothers. Ben and Alex. Not cheapest, but good prices, great services and very honest. Had several suits and many shirts made there. Very pleased with quality of merchandise.
Hi, I hope someone can help me here.
I would like to buy (being a foreigner) certain stocs (from the SEC stock market) but I do not have a Thai bank account.
All my information tells me I only can open a Thai bank account when I have a Thai address as well.
For your information: I am from Western Europe, have a bank account with Etrade (USA) linked to my home address in Europe and through this account I can trade on the US stock market.
Would like to do the same on the Thai stock market.
[QUOTE=Somewhere15; 1388765]Hi, I hope someone can help me here.
I would like to buy (being a foreigner) certain stocs (from the SEC stock market) but I do not have a Thai bank account.
[/QUOTE]Seems quite some banks are accepting your hotel as your address in Thailand. They even give an ATM card. But didn't read anything in here about capacity to trade on SE from such a bank account, maybe it is a more sophisticated procedure, to give the bank a safety net also against money laundry.
[QUOTE=Somewhere15; 1388765]Hi, I hope someone can help me here.
I would like to buy (being a foreigner) certain stocs (from the SEC stock market) but I do not have a Thai bank account.
All my information tells me I only can open a Thai bank account when I have a Thai address as well.
For your information: I am from Western Europe, have a bank account with Etrade (USA) linked to my home address in Europe and through this account I can trade on the US stock market.
Would like to do the same on the Thai stock market.[/QUOTE]Somewhere15,
When you visit Thailand next I can arrange a meeting with KT-ZMICO, if you want to.
[URL]http://www.ktzmico.com/en/home/index.aspx[/URL]
You can open a trading account there and transfer funds into it from overseas. You then can use their online trading system on PC, iPhone of Android. I am working with this broker company for years. No problems.
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL]
Used to be called Seamico. This company has a very international staff that can speak perfect English, Japanese, and Chinese. They can send their everyday e-mails in any of these languages. This is probably the best SET online trading in Thailand. I keep an account here for over 15 years already, and recent years I have not done much trading, but they still send all the statements and letters overseas to me years after years, even I can simply view everything online. Very well managed company.
Strongly recommend foreigners who are interested in Thai stocks to open account here.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1388048]Gentlemen,
Next week I will be in Bangkok on business. I'd like to buy me a nice suit. Any good and honest tailor you can recommend? By preference somewhere at or near (lower) Sukhumvit.
I know there has been some discussion about this matter, but the search function is not friendly to me (all links are completely wrong for me. I do not know why).[/QUOTE]Little husband and wife place on Soi 11.
Jhasper Fashion.
I liked the fact that it was small and family owned and didn't use touts.
I heard there were a couple of respectable places in Pattaya where quality knockoff watches could be purchased. Notably from Mr. Jacks and Zarah Watch Shop. Has anyone bought some fake watches from these sellers? I know good knockoffs have quartz movements, keep decent time, and look very much like the real thing down to the wristband. I think it would be a kick to bring back a couple Patek Philippe's as a souvenir and a gift for my father. I have a real Patek Philippe that I bought in '86, but there is no way I would ever travel with it.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1389103]I heard there were a couple of respectable places in Pattaya where quality knockoff watches could be purchased. Notably from Mr. Jacks and Zarah Watch Shop. Has anyone bought some fake watches from these sellers? I know good knockoffs have quartz movements, keep decent time, and look very much like the real thing down to the wristband. I think it would be a kick to bring back a couple Patek Philippe's as a souvenir and a gift for my father. I have a real Patek Philippe that I bought in '86, but there is no way I would ever travel with it.[/QUOTE]They had catalogs. Not sure where the watches were. I'm not sure you want a quartz movement. Most knock offs are based on an ETA 2892 movement (I think, it's been a long time) If you do but one I would make sure that the movement is Japanese or Taiwanese made and not Chinese. That leaves you having to rely on the word of the guy selling it. Eh. I would also make sure that the case is stainless steel and the crystal is sapphire crystal but more than likely it will be mineral.
I always wear my IWC and Panerais when I travel. Rolex's no. Thieves don't know. And I have insurance on all of my watches anyway. The only one I never wear traveling is the PAM 75, which is probably irreplaceable.
I've got a GMT that I would probably let go for reasonable money if you want a nice watch for you dad.
Dear Farang.
I write this letter to you. Have to tell you now have big problem at my home Nakon Nowhere.
Buffalo sick and can not get rice from Field.
My father need 3, 000 baht for medicine to make buffalo good again.
My brother me fall down the well for water and he break leg, cannot help my father same.
Need 5, 000 baht for borrow, good man help my father.
Now my mother stay hospital and my baby also, both have danger feber from drink water, no good after my brother fall down well.
Grandmother have motorbike accident, hit four chicken in road, but chicken fled scene, so have no one pay for her in hospital, next bed my mother and baby, want 4, 000 baht for her.
Sister in monkey house for make sex show in Bangkok, have to pay 200 baht everyday for food she, but police say no problem, give 20, 000 baht sister can go free.
Young brother go hospital to cut for be ladyboy, need 10, 000 baht for operation.
I think easy if you send 100, 000 baht to me, can send my bank at Mangdar Bank.
Now you stay your country.
I know that I stay with you only one night, but you number one man from all 35 I go with last month.
Now I know it you I love too much and I think of you everyday, I go room after disco.
P. S. Please send photo, so I can remember which one you.
I am just reporting on BCN as an interesting comparison to BKK.
I am in BCN now on business.
This city is unbelievable. I have seen just about every major European city, and this ranks near the top.
I have had time to monger. There are several options here. From high end escorts and clubs, to SW's on Ramblas.
There are no Gogo's, or MP scene like BKK.
I have chosen to go to the Apartamentos. The Asian spots. HAHA. I just love Asians. From my research, there are about 25+ of these places in BCN. All Chinese from what I am seeing. They parade 4 to 6 girls for you to choose.
Anyway, I have paid 40 E 2 times, and 50 E 1 time. The sessions were very good. BBBJs, DFK, DATY, and GFE services.
So at 40 E, that is about 1500 B. That is what I pay usually at the BKK MP's for the exact same service I am getting here.
I just find that interesting. Because, this town is obviously much nicer and upscale than BKK.
Not a mongering destination I don't think, But a great mix, and I really like it very much so far.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1390524]Anyway, I have paid 40 E 2 times, and 50 E 1 time. The sessions were very good. BBBJs, DFK, DATY, and GFE services.
So at 40 E, that is about 1500 B. That is what I pay usually at the BKK MP's for the exact same service I am getting here.
I just find that interesting. Because, this town is obviously much nicer and upscale than BKK.
Not a mongering destination I don't think, But a great mix, and I really like it very much so far.[/QUOTE]How much are the hotels compared to BKK? I've heard this is an expensive city for accomodations.
So no BBFS was on the menu. Or you didn't ask?
Say hello to Ronaldo & Messi for me.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1389103]I heard there were a couple of respectable places in Pattaya where quality knockoff watches could be purchased. .[/QUOTE]Brings back memories of the firstm and last, fake-o watches I ever bought. In Patpong in the mid-'90s. The USD 30 automatic, cough,"Rolex" was presented as a top-quality knockoff "Hong Kong Rolex," the vendor said. The second hand did indeed sweep. As far as an hour into the flight back home! (Perhaps there's safety in thinking that the locals assume that my very real Rolex is fake.) The "TAG Heuer" quartz started to rust about a month in. In this case, and I'm doubting times have changed, ya get less than you pay for. In Beijing, I have always wondered about the thought processes of the foreigners who flock to the Silk Market to buy fake Callaway drivers (Imagine yelling "fore!" when the fucking club head flies off) and LV bags that stink of polyurethane. Maybe it's just me.
Are there any cigar smokers who can recommend any venues that allow cigar smoking in Bangkok? If anyone has had any experience with any, I would appreciate your recommendations and reviews of these venues.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1390188]Dear Farang.I write this letter to you. Have to tell you now have big problem at my home Nakon Nowhere.[/QUOTE]I'm guessing you were not the only person out the 35 who were sent the same letter. This is just a numbers game for these girls and the sad truth is that there will be one or two who fall for this kind of scam. Even if they don't agree to send the full amount she is asking for they may send 10 or 20K baht x 2 that is most of her living cost's covered for the month. I know a few girls who have 3 or 4 sponsors.
But at the end of the day I suppose it is their money to do with as they wish. Certainly not for me, thank's.
Regards,
BJ
Arrived at Swampy on an Emirates flight (full A380 airbus) Monday 18th Feb at 12:05 pm, fast walk to immigration and all booths manned, NO queue at all and had to wait 10 mins for case.
Got stopped by customs and case passed through scanner but no problems, did not look in my laptop bag. Had all my prescription meds in there.
Taxi from the taxi queue, no problems with taxi meter and driver did'nt frighten the shit of me for a change. Cost was about 310 Bt plus tolls to Suk grande in soi 6 in moderate traffic.
Exchange rate sterling to Baht at TMB was 44.30 at the airport, Ever rich at Chidlom was 45.5 same day.
Sky Train is mobbed between 5- 8 pm most days, never been up early enough to use it in the morning.
Indian tailors still a pain, and I'm still a "hansum man".
Its good to be back.
Oldharry
[QUOTE=Dr BJ;1391411]I'm guessing you were not the only person out the 35 who were sent the same letter.[/QUOTE]That "letter" has been around since at least 2005, and was meant for laughs, not to scam any Farang
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1391495]Help me out here. LOL.
Is it safe to say girls who are able to get sponsors are the ones who are able to pull in customers at their regular place of business but are able to take it to the next level. I'm thinking girls who suck at getting customers arent being sponsored very much.[/QUOTE]I will be glad to help you Harold. Just post your question in a coherent manner and I will get back to you.
Regards,
BJ
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1391411]I'm guessing you were not the only person out the 35 who were sent the same letter. This is just a numbers game for these girls and the sad truth is that there will be one or two who fall for this kind of scam. Even if they don't agree to send the full amount she is asking for they may send 10 or 20K baht x 2 that is most of her living cost's covered for the month. I know a few girls who have 3 or 4 sponsors.
But at the end of the day I suppose it is their money to do with as they wish. Certainly not for me, thank's.
Regards,
BJ[/QUOTE]BJ, are you so naive that you don't see this letter as a joke. It is a compilation of all things said by many girls to many gullible farangs rolled into one? Have a laugh, grab a cold one and relax.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1392759]BJ, are you so naive that you don't see this letter as a joke. It is a compilation of all things said by many girls to many gullible farangs rolled into one? Have a laugh, grab a cold one and relax.[/QUOTE]Don't panic gentlemen. My blood pressure is just fine although my beer intake has been cut to a bare minimum as I need to lose the 12 kilo's I gained from quitting smoking back in December. I saw the letter for the humerus article it was intended to be. In the absence of a long winded post explaining my understanding of the content I was trying to raise the issue of people being sucked in with some of the lame stories most of us have or soon will hear and that some unfortunate souls are actually taken in by this and do end up parting with money, some on a regular basis. I think you missed my point.
Regards,
BJ
[QUOTE=Western787;1392029]That "letter" has been around since at least 2005, and was meant for laughs, not to scam any Farang[/QUOTE]Must really tell wife to stop writing them letters.
The buffalo must be immune to all disease by now given that he had been sick for so long.
It is amazing that some people actually fall for it.
I know one guy that sent his thai gf money cause her mother was sick.
Quite an achievement as I had been at her funeral the year before!
I must however state that not all thai people are that devious and money grabbing. Just a majority
There are some like wifes people never have asked for money ever no sick buffalo
Yes I have given her money for her mother but I saw the tumor on her neck and then paid to have it sorted.
Her family treat me well. Better than the bloody wife does. I always get fed and watered when I am there.
The letter is a funny joke.
But I know where it is coming from.
Thinking of retiring in Thailand in about 4 years. Any advice which city would be best between Udon Thani, Chiang Mai, Bangkok or any other. Just need a small town vibe with city amenities, not too expensive. Any suggestions or advice from the long time residents will be appreciated.
I am planning on coming to Thailand for six months. I have $200K in cash and $5000 a month in income. I want to live a good life with food, home, boats and especially girls. I this the right amount to get to the mid to high end. Also how does on move on from one girl to the next. I don't really want a long term relationship.
Cheers
[QUOTE=StillTrying808;1394020]Also how does on move on from one girl to the next. I don't really want a long term relationship. Cheers[/QUOTE]You move on, thats how. One night with this one, another night with another one.
[QUOTE=StillTrying808; 1394020]I am planning on coming to Thailand for six months. I have $200K in cash and $5000 a month in income. I want to live a good life with food, home, boats and especially girls. I this the right amount to get to the mid to high end. Also how does on move on from one girl to the next. I don't really want a long term relationship.
Cheers[/QUOTE]Really?
Where exactly?
By the way, most of us are on here because we don't want a LTR.
[QUOTE=StillTrying808;1394020]I am planning on coming to Thailand for six months. I have $200K in cash and $5000 a month in income. I want to live a good life with food, home, boats and especially girls. I this the right amount to get to the mid to high end. Also how does on move on from one girl to the next. I don't really want a long term relationship.[/QUOTE]Since you seem a little unsure of matters, I offer my professional help for the small sum of $2000 per month after a $100K retainer. But, seriously, my advice would be to tell no one of your financial status. No bragging or boasting as that little tight cute ass Ploy or her "nympho" sister Pla will figure out how to separate you from that money.
[QUOTE=Stevebny;1394299]Since you seem a little unsure of matters, I offer my professional help for the small sum of $2000 per month after a $100K retainer. But, seriously, my advice would be to tell no one of your financial status. No bragging or boasting as that little tight cute ass Ploy or her "nympho" sister Pla will figure out how to separate you from that money.[/QUOTE]Exactly good advice here, its none of anyone's business how much money you have or how much you make. In fact, I would take it a step further and tell them you're a struggling English teacher..
[QUOTE=StillTrying808; 1394020]I am planning on coming to Thailand for six months. I have $200K in cash and $5000 a month in income. I want to live a good life with food, home, boats and especially girls. I this the right amount to get to the mid to high end. Also how does on move on from one girl to the next. I don't really want a long term relationship.
Cheers[/QUOTE]Telling people on here how much money you have to sustain yourself is anonymous and represents no threat to you retaining your money, telling bar girls would not be wise advice. If any of these girls ask what you are doing in Thailand just say tourist. $ 5000 a month is 150, 000 baht. Your parameters of accommodation, food, venues and girls are too vague to comment on or it could run to several paragraphs. If you intend to spend the whole $200, 000 plus the $5, 000 that works out at 38, 000 baht per day. You could live well and have fun on 10, 000 baht a day, or you can live in a top class hotel, eat extravagant food, go to G-clubs and easily get through 60, 000 baht a day. The only advice I would venture is that if it was me I would rent an apartment as opposed to staying in a Hotel. As for "butterflying" or jumping from one girl to the next, you just pay the girls when your long time (LT) or short time (ST) session is finished and thank them.
I think you have made a very good choice in selecting Thailand to spend your time and regardless of your finer requirements when here you will have a whale of a time.
Regards,
BJ
Just about out of the slippery stuff I brought from the states. As I thought about buying some more, I realized I hadn't seen any "sex shops" about, or maybe I wasn't looking. Plenty of toys and ED meds on the street, but where to get some decent lube?
Thanks for ideas.
[QUOTE=StillTrying808; 1394020]I am planning on coming to Thailand for six months. I have $200K in cash and $5000 a month in income. I want to live a good life with food, home, boats and especially girls. .
Cheers[/QUOTE]Boats? Presumably you don't mean the V8 engined things that plough up and down the Chao Praya all day long
[QUOTE=StillTrying808; 1394020]I am planning on coming to Thailand for six months. I have $200K in cash and $5000 a month in income. I want to live a good life with food, home, boats and especially girls. I this the right amount to get to the mid to high end. Also how does on move on from one girl to the next. I don't really want a long term relationship.
Cheers[/QUOTE]Well if you don't eat dinner at The Dome, top in Lebua tower (will set you back 25000 for a decent meal) , and don't do high escorts every night you should be fine. I just arrived home from 3 weeks mongering in BKK and mnl and I have roughly spend 100000bht per week exl hotel. But I have a few regular girls as well so they cost me far more than normal p4p, he he. Spending approx like this makes me have freedom to do whatever I LIKE within reason. Otherwice probably smart not to tell Ploy and her friends how much money you have. Beeing to cheap is also not a good idea as this will limit your choices as well. I guess it is all about balance, he he.
[QUOTE=Catbird; 1394383]Just about out of the slippery stuff I brought from the states. As I thought about buying some more, I realized I hadn't seen any "sex shops" about, or maybe I wasn't looking. Plenty of toys and ED meds on the street, but where to get some decent lube?
Thanks for ideas.[/QUOTE]If you pass Soi 4 on Sukhumvit going towards Soi 2, there is a large pharmacy before you get to Bully's Pub. They stock the usual stuff but also 2 sizes of Astroglide.
[QUOTE=Catbird; 1394383]Just about out of the slippery stuff I brought from the states. As I thought about buying some more, I realized I hadn't seen any "sex shops" about, or maybe I wasn't looking. Plenty of toys and ED meds on the street, but where to get some decent lube?
Thanks for ideas.[/QUOTE]?
Geez. Walk into any pharmacy or 7-11.
If you know WTF you are doing, you won't need lube.
[QUOTE=Catbird; 1394383]Just about out of the slippery stuff I brought from the states. As I thought about buying some more, I realized I hadn't seen any "sex shops" about, or maybe I wasn't looking. Plenty of toys and ED meds on the street, but where to get some decent lube?
Thanks for ideas.[/QUOTE]KY seems being sold in 7-11, from what was written recently.
I will check this next week and report back if anybody has earlier news
[url]http://www.sexomercadobcn.com/foro.php[/url]
I have left Barcelona. I know nobody cares. It is really a decent mongering city. Not a destination, but plenty of options. In case any of you go there, this site is a great reference for P4P.
[QUOTE=StillTrying808; 1394020]I am planning on coming to Thailand for six months. I have $200K in cash and $5000 a month in income. I want to live a good life with food, home, boats and especially girls. I this the right amount to get to the mid to high end. Also how does on move on from one girl to the next. I don't really want a long term relationship.
Cheers[/QUOTE]I am assuming you don't want to touch 90% of that 200k. That would mean 50k total over 6 months or about $270 or 8000 baht per day, which would allow you to live in a very nice luxury studio outside of the central area for $400 or less per month, lets say in Ratchada which literally has a 1000 plus soapie girls within walking distance any day of the week, plus you could still be able to live a little bit of the Global Nanpa lifestyle by having sufficient funds to stay in Sukhumvit 4 to 5 star hotels a couple nights every week or two, or some excellent 3 stars around town. Plus more than enough dollars for G clubs 1 or 2 nights per week, as well as all the other more usual venues: oil message parlors, beer bars, go gos, nightclubs, discos and so forth, even a side trip to Phuket for the fresh air (the boats and great islands in fact are down there) , or anytime you want to Pattaya.
While 6 months leases are less common than one year, upfront payments might well fix that in some cases.
Remember $270 a day in Bangkok (factoring in Bangkok WGs low cost and large numbers) is like having perhaps $1000 to $1500 per day in NYC. Now "Righteous Dude", the (5 star, top suites) German national Global Nanpa guy, appears to have a budget of about 30, 000 baht per day, but by focusing on Bangkok with sidetrips to Phillipines and Indonesia to cite two examples, he's still getting 3 to 5 times the value he'd get in most major European or american cities.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1394470]?
Geez. Walk into any pharmacy or 7-11.
If you know WTF you are doing, you won't need lube.[/QUOTE]I'm sure I wouldn't need it with your blown out asshole. Why don't you take your boring clown act down the road.
Thanks for the pointer Crazy4Thai.
[QUOTE=StillTrying808; 1394020]I am planning on coming to Thailand for six months. I have $200K in cash and $5000 a month in income. I want to live a good life with food, home, boats and especially girls. I this the right amount to get to the mid to high end. Also how does on move on from one girl to the next. I don't really want a long term relationship.
Cheers[/QUOTE]Here some suggestions that will give you an above average experience.
Accommodation. Serviced apartment. Suggest Emporium Suites circa 150, 000 900, 000.
Food. 3,000 per day and you eat like a king even if you have company 549, 000.
Drink. Depends how fond you are of fine wine but again 3000 more than enough 549, 000.
Girls. Depends how healthy you are, assuming one a day 2000 to 5000 (say 3500) 640, 000.
Sundries. 2000 per day 366, 000.
Total Baht 3, 004, 000.
Dollars 100, 000.
Flights outside Bangkok are cheap and the above allowances are more than sufficient anywhere in Thailand. Places outside Bangkok worth visiting are Hua Hin, Chiangmai and Phuket plus adjoining islands Not too sure what you mean when you mention boats, charters are available but can be expensive.
The advice given on not flashing the cash is good advice. Bangkok is relatively safe but only take out with you what you intend spending. I envy your upcoming visit as I remember back on my first experience of Thailand and how amazing it was. Good luck.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1394427]You only tell us about your cheap hookers. Lets hear more about the ones you really spend big baht on![/QUOTE]Just do some research and you will find I have also put out some photos in the photo gallery og some in my regular fleet. I just tell that The Dome in Lebua is as high as I will go for food (piricewice) in any country. I don't even do this to show off as I know I will get to bed them. I just sth likes to go upscale also for my own sake of it.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1394411]Well if you don't eat dinner at The Dome, top in Lebua tower (will set you back 25000 for a decent meal) , and don't do high escorts every night you should be fine. I just arrived home from 3 weeks mongering in BKK and mnl and I have roughly spend 100000bht per week exl hotel. But I have a few regular girls as well so they cost me far more than normal p4p, he he. Spending approx like this makes me have freedom to do whatever I LIKE within reason. Otherwice probably smart not to tell Ploy and her friends how much money you have. Beeing to cheap is also not a good idea as this will limit your choices as well. I guess it is all about balance, he he.[/QUOTE]I was just in Manila and BKK and I find it hard to believe, impossible to spend 476 USD per day. Excluding your hotel. If you're normal and not one of these "I need attention" guys throwing $400 down for lady drinks everyday. There's few of those. Dude, most of the guys here are intelligent and well off. Nobody buys that line. Or at least I don't. If you're going to spend that kind of cash tere's no reason to leave continental Europe. At that price you have it all there.
[QUOTE=FruitNinja;1394849]I was just in Manila and BKK and I find it hard to believe, impossible to spend 476 USD per day. Excluding your hotel. If you're normal and not one of these "I need attention" guys throwing $400 down for lady drinks everyday. There's few of those. Dude, most of the guys here are intelligent and well off. Nobody buys that line. Or at least I don't. If you're going to spend that kind of cash tere's no reason to leave continental Europe. At that price you have it all there.[/QUOTE]Do you wan to tell me you came to Asia because you wanted to save? As a successful "business owner" (your DIA profile) you need to spend!
[QUOTE=FruitNinja;1394849]I was just in Manila and BKK and I find it hard to believe, impossible to spend 476 USD per day. Excluding your hotel. If you're normal and not one of these "I need attention" guys throwing $400 down for lady drinks everyday. There's few of those. Dude, most of the guys here are intelligent and well off. Nobody buys that line. Or at least I don't. If you're going to spend that kind of cash tere's no reason to leave continental Europe. At that price you have it all there.[/QUOTE]I only leave Europe bcs I want to not bcs I have to as I love asian pussy. And I don't go on a savingspree. Have not bought many ladydrinks in my life as I rarerly do go go and bf. But regular fleet cost me some money not bcs it has to but bcs we go shopping I e in Siam Paragorn and rather upscale dinners (I realy like that myself and would done it even if alone so why not throw in some good company as well). You can also manage to spend US400+ a day if you like. For freelancegirls met at discoes I buy 1 or 2 bottles and extras plus plus so freelancegirl and friends of her can just drink and have a blast. Not bcs I have to but bcs I want too (and often I find that rewarding for pussyaction later if mood and chemistry is good she gets good standing in her friends eyes. Important for thais). I don't allways do that but I like to treat those girls nice. But I guess you are a big boy so you can find out yourself if your intention are to spend like I do. It is a free world but I don't say I have more fun than others. This trip I spend more than I usualy do but who cares. I am not. I was just replying to ones dude post
[QUOTE=Skogis;1394841]Just do some research and you will find I have also put out some photos in the photo gallery og some in my regular fleet. I just tell that The Dome in Lebua is as high as I will go for food (piricewice) in any country. I don't even do this to show off as I know I will get to bed them. I just sth likes to go upscale also for my own sake of it.[/QUOTE]If you're going to venture that far from sewervit for dinner then I suggest going another 2 blocks and dine at either the Mandarin Oriental or even better the Peninsula. Both great but the Pen has a dinner buffet that is off the charts. I eat there every night as that's where I stay when I'm in BKK.
I never recommend it because it too far off the beaten path for most. I believe Lebua is better left for drinks as it's really only the atmosphere and view that excels.
[QUOTE=Catbird;1394688]I'm sure I wouldn't need it with your blown out asshole. Why don't you take your boring clown act down the road.[/QUOTE]As long as Bozo's like you with 20 posts in 6 1/2 years ask stupid ask questions about lube and ED meds., my clown act will continue.
[QUOTE=Rjsss212; 1394893]If you're going to venture that far from sewervit for dinner then I suggest going another 2 blocks and dine at either the Mandarin Oriental or even better the Peninsula. Both great but the Pen has a dinner buffet that is off the charts. I eat there every night as that's where I stay when I'm in BKK.
I never recommend it because it too far off the beaten path for most. I believe Lebua is better left for drinks as it's really only the atmosphere and view that excels.[/QUOTE]Which restaurant at the Peninsula has the buffet and what is the cost for it? Thanks,
[QUOTE=Skogis;1394872]I only leave Europe bcs I want to not bcs I have to as I love asian pussy. And I don't go on a savingspree. Have not bought many ladydrinks in my life as I rarerly do go go and bf. But regular fleet cost me some money not bcs it has to but bcs we go shopping I e in Siam Paragorn and rather upscale dinners (I realy like that myself and would done it even if alone so why not throw in some good company as well). You can also manage to spend US400+ a day if you like. For freelancegirls met at discoes I buy 1 or 2 bottles and extras plus plus so freelancegirl and friends of her can just drink and have a blast. Not bcs I have to but bcs I want too (and often I find that rewarding for pussyaction later if mood and chemistry is good she gets good standing in her friends eyes. Important for thais). I don't allways do that but I like to treat those girls nice. But I guess you are a big boy so you can find out yourself if your intention are to spend like I do. It is a free world but I don't say I have more fun than others. This trip I spend more than I usualy do but who cares. I am not. I was just replying to ones dude post[/QUOTE]I can just see you're mother calling PUS, PUS. Cute story. I've read about men with cats. Can't say that I've ever met one.
You my friend don't rate very high in my believability scale. Like at about a whooping. 0- To be honest with you you sound like a little kid wanking in the basement with all your hehes and hahas and all your braggart stories of all the money you spent. An adult doesn't need to impress anyone with exactly how much he spent. An adult doesn't discount a nation of 300M based on meeting one cowboy in a bar.
They have a saying in the US: if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. Think about it, if you can't figure it out you can always ask one of those cowboys you consider rude. I'm sitting here wondering how many of those cowboys you would call rude to their face. It's easy to spew bigotry behind a keyboard.
[quote=harold444; 1394912]you smelled [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord113][CodeWord113][/url] too. i smelt it a long time ago with this guy. you just know he misleading everyone when he see 9s and 10s at the beer garden in the morning. lol.
just not believable. he always ends up at the beer garden. lol.
its all good sir. just to newbies. this guy isn't represntative of what happens in thailand.[/quote]hi harold, think you are not representative too lol. neither am i. don't ever recall skogis calling garden girls 9's or 10's, do not think that happened, and only recall him visiting the place once.
i find skogis posts interesting and believable. knowing how much i spend, no where near skogis level, its not hard seeing someone spend as much as he does. in some ways he is gullible and naive, but overall he is just a relatively young guy having a good time. how long his finances and the fun lasts, nobody knows, but while it does, i have no problems in enjoying reading about it. he does tell us when things go awry too, you know.
i hope skogis is not yet another scalp for the doom sayers. so far he has been able to ignore the non believers. just hit the ignore button if your one of those, lol.
there's the 444's, people like me, ones typically representative, and there is the skogies. variety for isg, no harm in that. reading your stuff 444, i am convinced to visit rainbow 4 on my next trip. you see, i read your postings too, lol.
[QUOTE=Rodwint2;1394992]Which restaurant at the Peninsula has the buffet and what is the cost for it? Thanks,[/QUOTE]River Cafe 1800 B.
Here are a few. There are many being built in the city due to popularity.
I have been to most of these. The views can be spectacular. I really liked the Red Sky at Centara.
Bring your wallet as some drinks can easily run 500B per person or more.
[url]http://www.bangkok.com/top10-rooftop-bars.htm[/url]
Also, my suggestion is to take a girl with some High Soc. in her. I have taken a few girls who were not and they look and feel totally out of place.
[QUOTE=FruitNinja; 1394995]I can just see you're mother calling PUS, PUS. Cute story. I've read about men with cats. Can't say that I've ever met one.
You my friend don't rate very high in my believability scale. Like at about a whooping. 0- To be honest with you you sound like a little kid wanking in the basement with all your hehes and hahas and all your braggart stories of all the money you spent. An adult doesn't need to impress anyone with exactly how much he spent. An adult doesn't discount a nation of 300M based on meeting one cowboy in a bar.
They have a saying in the US: if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. Think about it, if you can't figure it out you can always ask one of those cowboys you consider rude. I'm sitting here wondering how many of those cowboys you would call rude to their face. It's easy to spew bigotry behind a keyboard.[/QUOTE]Well you are not the most positive contributor inside here if you find someone inside here (and other parts of ISG) spending a few dimes on p4p or at other stuffs unlike you. Well have I obviously stepped on your toes at some point but you don't know me and I don't know you so we just leave it like that (according to some of your previous psotings here and / or other parts of ISG I am obviously not the only one). But the freedom to type is great so we both have the equal right to contribute without having to like eachother postings. I do my mongering my way and you do it your way. Adult people comes in so many shapes, ages and forms I have learned.
[quote=harold444; 1394912]you smelled [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord113][CodeWord113][/url] too. i smelt it a long time ago with this guy. you just know he misleading everyone when he see 9s and 10s at the beer garden in the morning. lol.
just not believable. he always ends up at the beer garden. lol.
its all good sir. just to newbies. this guy isn't represntative of what happens in thailand.[/quote]i believe some also question your credibility so i can live with that. but where did you find i allways end up at beergarden? 2 times in 2 weeks in bkk. and yes i have seen some beauties inside there but mostly girls will lie in the segment from 6-8 and that is the segment i go for as they mostly perform well.
and i have zero to none credibility if i start debating go go`s, nep, sc, bj bar, mp`s and other places were you have to barfine x from this last trip with dr bj (we did hit 2 go go`s in nep) so i leave that to others. what i know a bit about is freelancemarket (and its many aspects. streetwalkers, nightclubs, g-clubs and so on) and how to get a non pay for pussy (regular girl) met through social activities or through datingsites, some upscale wine and dining places, hotels and taxis. that is more than enough for me and is bangkok to me. i am not so interested in so much more. but i read with great interest other peoples fr`s from all over bangkok to be prepared if some day i would like to start explore my mongering. but so far so good.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1395015]Well you are not the most positive contributor inside here if you find someone inside here (and other parts of ISG) spending a few dimes on p4p or at other stuffs unlike you. Well have I obviously stepped on your toes at some point but you don't know me and I don't know you so we just leave it like that (according to some of your previous psotings here and / or other parts of ISG I am obviously not the only one). But the freedom to type is great so we both have the equal right to contribute without having to like eachother postings. I do my mongering my way and you do it your way. Adult people comes in so many shapes, ages and forms I have learned.[/QUOTE]Why are so many people from Norway blonde?
[QUOTE=Skogis;1395015]Well you are not the most positive contributor inside here if you find someone inside here (and other parts of ISG) spending a few dimes on p4p or at other stuffs unlike you. Well have I obviously stepped on your toes at some point but you don't know me and I don't know you so we just leave it like that (according to some of your previous psotings here and / or other parts of ISG I am obviously not the only one). But the freedom to type is great so we both have the equal right to contribute without having to like eachother postings. I do my mongering my way and you do it your way. Adult people comes in so many shapes, ages and forms I have learned.[/QUOTE]Yeah, maybe I'm a little outspoken. Definitely more than most. Glad you had a nice read of my contributions. We don't have to agree on anything. I have no skin in the game one way or another. There are two things in life that bother me. 1. Racism 2. Bullshit. I have my meter set on high for both. And you managed to peg the meter in both categories. I'm not the only one that's called you on your bigotry. If you want to talk about that why don't you take it to one of those supremacist sites. It really doesn't belong here because quite frankly nobody here logged in to read anyone's feelings on race. It's not appropriate.
I also have a keen sense of reading between the lines honed by many years of running businesses and having employees. You're full of it, and full of yourself.
So post reports of mongering, pictures of mongering, your experiences, but leave the bigotry to your other forums.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1395020]Why are so many people from Norway blonde?[/QUOTE]That was pretty funny LP. My favorite Blonde joke.
A plane is on its way to Miami when a blonde woman in economy class gets up and moves into an open seat in the first class section.
The flight attendant watches her do this, and politely informs the woman that she must sit in economy class because that's the type of ticket she paid for.
The blonde replies,"I'm blonde, I'm beautiful, I'm going to Miami and I'm staying right here."
After repeated attempts and no success at convincing the woman to move, the flight attendant goes into the cockpit and informs the pilot and co-piolet that there's a blonde bimbo sitting in first class who refuses to go back to her proper seat. The co-pilot goes back to the woman and explains why she needs to move, but once again the woman replies by saying,"I'm blonde, I'm beatiful, I'm going to Miami and I'm staying right here."
The co-pilot returns to the cockpit and suggests that perhaps they should have the arrival gate call the police and have the woman arrested when they land. The pilot says,"You say she's blonde? I'll handle this. I'm married to a blonde. I speak blonde." He goes back to the woman and whispers quietly in her ear, and she says,"Oh, I'm sorry," then quickly moves back to her seat in economy class.
The flight attendant and co-pilot are amazed and ask him what he said to get her to move back to economy without causing any fuss.
"I told her first class isn't going to Miami."
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1395020]Why are so many people from Norway blonde?[/QUOTE]I guess it is bcs we are scandinavians and from caucasoid race and in scandinavia 70% of population have blonde hair and blue eyes. I guess you don't want to hear the serious answer to your question. As the serious reason is about whos genetics survives. The rest you can easily google.
Today, since I probably have stepped on some american toes (I have no clue where you are from sir) I guess many of the angry ones would say we are blonde bcs we are stupid. We use this frase (blonde and stupid) within scandinavia mostly directed towards girls (as in they beeing more easy and fun to be with as they are blonde and stupid). But can easily go for guys also I believe.
But as FruitNinja have posted while I wrote this answer. We leave it at that atleast I do. And we take it back to what this should be all about - pussy, pussy and FR's..
How are blonde jokes not racist?
Also I missed the Skogis report that was racist, could you link back to it? He seems to me like a member who has a good time and writes about it so I don't understand what got you riled up.
Interesting article from an expat view but very relatable.
[url]http://aboomerabroad.com/2012/05/25/bangkoks-grade-expat-mecca[/url]
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1395007]Here are a few. There are many being built in the city due to popularity.
I have been to most of these. The views can be spectacular. I really liked the Red Sky at Centara.
Bring your wallet as some drinks can easily run 500B per person or more.
[url]http://www.bangkok.com/top10-rooftop-bars.htm[/url]
Also, my suggestion is to take a girl with some High Soc. In her. I have taken a few girls who were not and they look and feel totally out of place.[/QUOTE]Took one of the Bangkok old girls to Breeze at Lebua. She loved it and fit right in. Asked Goldie's help in selecting the girl. Food was good; not worth the price; but you're paying for the view.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1394951]As long as Bozo's like you with 20 posts in 6 1/2 years ask stupid ask questions about lube and ED meds., my clown act will continue.[/QUOTE]LOL. We both know your clown act will continue regardless of Bozos, twenty some posts in 4 months and over 2, 000 posts in Argentina. Why? Because you're a clown. I know, you can't help it. In fact, at times you're pretty funny, at other times just a negative asswipe. Your mission? Enhancing the former and eliminating the latter. Choke dee!
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1395007]Here are a few. There are many being built in the city due to popularity.
Also, my suggestion is to take a girl with some High Soc. In her. I have taken a few girls who were not and they look and feel totally out of place.[/QUOTE]Oh man. I was at a fine eating establishment with a romantic ambience, and there was an older fella, well dressed and you could tell he was made of money, looked almost like Hugh Hefner with his chiseled jaw. And there he was with a simple Issarn girl with a boob job, she looked out of sorts and uncomfortable eating in such a place. To each his own though, maybe the girl gave great head and it was worth the fine meal LOL
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai; 1395046]How are blonde jokes not racist?
Also I missed the Skogis report that was racist, could you link back to it? He seems to me like a member who has a good time and writes about it so I don't understand what got you riled up.[/QUOTE]It's not that they get riled up because of the money he spews, he's putting it out there and in somewhat of a boastful manner that he's banging hi class ass and has girls in Lamborginis picking him up to and fro the airport, and subsequently posts a few pics of average to OK looking girls. In a few posts a while ago, he claimed to bang some CEO type of an international company, yet he met her at Climax because she needed extra cash. LOL
NOthing against the guy, he's made good contributions but I'm afraid a newb might take some of this at face value and expect it takes deep pockets to have fun in LOS and might consider cheaper locations like Cambodia.
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai; 1395046]How are blonde jokes not racist?
Also I missed the Skogis report that was racist, could you link back to it? He seems to me like a member who has a good time and writes about it so I don't understand what got you riled up.[/QUOTE]Exactly. And then he calls anti Americans racist.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1395149]It's not that they get riled up because of the money he spews, he's putting it out there and in somewhat of a boastful manner that he's banging hi class ass and has girls in Lamborginis picking him up to and fro the airport, and subsequently posts a few pics of average to OK looking girls. In a few posts a while ago, he claimed to bang some CEO type of an international company, yet he met her at Climax because she needed extra cash. LOL
NOthing against the guy, he's made good contributions but I'm afraid a newb might take some of this at face value and expect it takes deep pockets to have fun in LOS and might consider cheaper locations like Cambodia.[/QUOTE]I didn't even see the Lambo or bored CEO reference. If I had I would have had to get a new BS meter.
I might be outspoken. But I don't have a problem calling it like I see it. I think Tony understands what I'm saying as far as keeping it real here. People come here to learn. If we don't police our own pretty soon this will become something of Penthouse Letters To The Editor. Pure fiction. I had a great time in BKK with the help of some great FRs I read here. Most of the stuff was right on so I had a good reference point of what I should expect.
If we just sit back and let guys have a field day with their imagination and never call them on it this place will be useless. I'll be back in BKK so I like to read and keep track of whats going on. Reading a guys reports and the having him say that he spent on average $500 USD a day is just BS and most of the regulars here know it is. We don't want the newbie to think that's what he needs. That's not a realistic view of BKK or Manila.
And CEOs and Lambos? Next thing you know we'll have guys telling us they were partying with the Thai Royal Family. 90% of what we read here is pretty much spot on. There's the 10% that have a need to brag and tell everyone how great they are. Low self esteem will do that. Let's not have that become the norm.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1395149]It's not that they get riled up because of the money he spews, he's putting it out there and in somewhat of a boastful manner that he's banging hi class ass and has girls in Lamborginis picking him up to and fro the airport, and subsequently posts a few pics of average to OK looking girls. In a few posts a while ago, he claimed to bang some CEO type of an international company, yet he met her at Climax because she needed extra cash. LOL
NOthing against the guy, he's made good contributions but I'm afraid a newb might take some of this at face value and expect it takes deep pockets to have fun in LOS and might consider cheaper locations like Cambodia.[/QUOTE]Since you first refering to my postings you well might get it right as someones blodpreassure obviously is raising above what is healthy inside here. Where do I speak of Lamborgini (never sat down in a Lambo) and airport pickups? The CEO type of girl seemingly working in a hi so company in Silom proved to be a golddigger, which I also admit after finding to many holes in her story and yes she drove me home in a Range Rover (orange) and lived in a big apartment above Emporium. Probably lived there as a part of an agreement with some businessman or sth. And this was a girl met in RCA area...
At Climax I have met many many girls but nothing hi so about them (exp once in a while a beauty) and only time I gave someone money (exp from additional taxicompensation / reward) is from one girl beeing pregnant and one girl getting some foodstallbusiness going.
Wether people like my picks of girls or not I can not do anything about. A 9 girl for me can be a 10 or a 7 for someone else. That is life. My regular fleet met from normal mechanisms and through dating sites (non pay for pussy girls) is what cost the most.
But I agree that you don't need much money to monger in LOS. You can have as much fun as I have for far less (so newbies don't think about that) and probably even more fun than I have too. You can even go on a strickt budget no problem and up to the individual mongerer to decide what is right for him. And no problem people "policing" the forum, that is much needed sometimes and I also write some provocative stuffs at times (but then it is the individual reciever thinking it is provocative and not the general mass). But atleast get it right when attacking, ok?
[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1395232]It seems you don't understand the meaning of racist. It means discriminating a race, which is something one is born into without choice. Opposed to that I find it totally legitimate to be anti a way of thinking or a mainstream. American and skin colour doesn't go together either, does it? The problem that I have with the US (probably the government, but that is elected by the majority unless judges get involved) is that they believe to have the only wisdom and truth.[/QUOTE]Your problem with the "US." And I am ok with you having such issues but let's be honest about it. Don't bring up this silly notion about a blonde joke. I have about as much to do about my government as you do yours. The simple fact is that most are run by special interests and we could discuss that to the end of time. What I do reject is the statement that all Americans are assholes because a guy meets one in a bar in a far off country where the main purpose is obtaining pussy. That's not a good cross section of the country by any means. The world is all about the Bush era America. That's less than 50% of America. That's an America I do not know. The America I know has tickets to the symphony, has been to the Bolshoi, Louvre, Hermitage, MoMa, Guggenheim, has read War and Peace, knows, art, culture, history. So what I resent is being lumped into the category of "cowboy" or "batman."
I'm European born US raised and live the America Dream as they say. I'm not happy about all that has happened in this country over the last 10 years. But don't discount what this country has done for the world and Europe in general. Norway and most of Europe would be flying a different flag if it weren't for the blood shed by Americans. We so easily forget that. The prosperity that Japan, Korea, and now China know is owed to the American consumer. Add most of Europe to that equation. A BMW or Mecedes without America is not much. Toyota wthout America could not have been the company it is today employing the people they employ.
Yes, we've done some stupid shit at the behest of stupid politicians but you show me a country / culture that hasn't. Do an honest appraisal of things before you pass opinion on a nation of 300M individuals. A country comprised of all nationalities.
The picture changes when you use a bigger canvas.
From one who lived in Thailand (Chiangmai) for over a year.
Those young / younger Thai chaps have all the fun (or not!)
Cheers!
[url]http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/08/us-thailand-pregnancy-idUSBRE92705P20130308[/url]
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Dear all.
I booked my flight to BKK about a week ago! Its in September, for 6 weeks (I like to plan waaay in advance). This is my first time to Asia. I'll be in BKK from 14th to 28th ish and then want to see phuket, Pattaya, koh samui, hua hin, hat yai and maybe chiang mai and more places north. Also some places 'off the beaten path' if possible.
I had about 4million questions but thanks to this site and others I have about half a dozen left unanswered and am hoping for a little guidance.
* Firstly, if any brits, yanks, ozzies, canadians are over there when I am maybe we could meet up for a beer? I'm not looking for a travel partner exactly, just someone who perhaps is in the same boat as me. The majority of my trip will be solo, but it may be cool to meet up for a day or 2.
* Hotels: There seems to be many great 'guest-friendly' hotels but say if I book a 'regular' hotel for 2 people then pick up a girl for overnight, will the 'regular' hotel give me nay hassle?
* ATM's: Are they all safe to use? Is it similar to UK with the Link logo? Do you guys take 1 card or spread it out over many?
* Getting around: I have a motorbike licence for Uk. Seems easy enough to get the international licence. Is it a good idea to rent a moped in Thailand? Or is public transport good / cheap enough?
I was going to add some questions about girls but I'll save that for another post. Plenty of time.
Any advice, hints, tips, suggestions, critiques most welcome.
Thanks in advance.
David
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[QUOTE=ThailandBound; 1396646]Dear all.
I booked my flight to BKK about a week ago! Its in September, for 6 weeks (?
Any advice, hints, tips, suggestions, critiques most welcome.
Thanks in advance.
David[/QUOTE]Much of what you ask is covered by Lonely Planet.
[QUOTE=ThailandBound; 1396646]Dear all.
I booked my flight to BKK about a week ago! Its in September, for 6 weeks (I like to plan waaay in advance). This is my first time to Asia. I'll be in BKK from 14th to 28th ish and then want to see phuket, Pattaya, koh samui, hua hin, hat yai and maybe chiang mai and more places north. Also some places 'off the beaten path' if possible.[/QUOTE]That is a tall order. Remember "This is Thailand" where planning is at best not better than a pious intention.
[QUOTE=ThailandBound; 1396646]I had about 4million questions but thanks to this site and others I have about half a dozen left unanswered and am hoping for a little guidance.
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* Hotels: There seems to be many great 'guest-friendly' hotels but say if I book a 'regular' hotel for 2 people then pick up a girl for overnight, will the 'regular' hotel give me nay hassle?[/QUOTE]Unless you are staying in a purely (western) family oriented hotel or resort (and even then) , most hotels are very relaxed about this. I never had any problems in that respect and I traveled also off the beaten path.
[QUOTE=ThailandBound;1396646]* ATM's: Are they all safe to use? Is it similar to UK with the Link logo? Do you guys take 1 card or spread it out over many?[/QUOTE]Never had any problems. I usually take a few cards, but only use one and keep the other as a backup.
[QUOTE=ThailandBound;1396646]* Getting around: I have a motorbike licence for Uk. Seems easy enough to get the international licence. Is it a good idea to rent a moped in Thailand? Or is public transport good / cheap enough?[/QUOTE]Public transport both in and between cities is easy, well organised and cheap. Traffic is chaotic, so I never hazard to brave the traffic myself. Far better (and less stress) to use planes, trains, busses, vans, taxis, songthaews or --if all else fails-- a tuk-tuk.
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[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1396725]That is a tall order. Remember "This is Thailand" where planning is at best not better than a pious intention.
Unless you are staying in a purely (western) family oriented hotel or resort (and even then) , most hotels are very relaxed about this. I never had any problems in that respect and I traveled also off the beaten path.
Never had any problems. I usually take a few cards, but only use one and keep the other as a backup.
Public transport both in and between cities is easy, well organised and cheap. Traffic is chaotic, so I never hazard to brave the traffic myself. Far better (and less stress) to use planes, trains, busses, vans, taxis, songthaews or.if all else fails- a tuk-tuk.[/QUOTE]Cheers Wolvenvacht! Yes the traffic in the cities I've heard is mental. I do however prefer the freedom your own motor gives you. What stresses me out in the UK is 2 hours in 1st and 2nd gear on the M4, M6 etc Are Thailand roads / motorways like this often? Many roadworks? Wherever in Europe I've gone I've driven a car, had some awesome road trips. Would be nice to do Bangkok to Phuket via Hua Hin, for 1 night, on a bike as a few sites I found advertises.
Thanks for other advice. Think I'm going to go with £750 cash an 2 cards.
When you do go outside the touristy places, are there often massage services of some sort? In other words can I assume correctly that in each and every large town in Thailand there will be a massage parlour? Like UK towns have a post office and a bank and a pub.
On the racism issue, I'd like to quote a very good film called Bulworth. If not to make a point, then just to lighten the tension:
"Everybody got to keep fcuking everybody til we're all the same colour"
Jay Billington Bulworth
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1396725]SNIP.
Public transport both in and between cities is easy, well organised and cheap. Traffic is chaotic, so I never hazard to brave the traffic myself. Far better (and less stress) to use planes, trains, busses, vans, taxis, songthaews or.if all else fails- a tuk-tuk.[/QUOTE]This is a pretty good summary. I recommend that you dig a little deeper concerning transport on the island of Phuket. You might want a motorbike there as "public transport" is sadly lacking and primarily run by rip-off artists. The international license would be a good idea then because local police will stop you hoping to make you pay a fine on the spot. Be careful about private bus companies who have been known to ransack your "checked" luggage while you are sleeping. Get your tickets only at a bus station to avoid that. As opposed to buying from a tout in tourists areas. Bangkok taxis are good VFM as long as they use the meter. If no meter, you want to get out. I suggest you do web research about travel in Thailand someplace other than a sex based forum.
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[quote=thailandbound;1396748]cheers wolvenvacht! yes the traffic in the cities i've heard is mental. i do however prefer the freedom your own motor gives you. what stresses me out in the uk is 2 hours in 1st and 2nd gear on the m4, m6 etc are thailand roads / motorways like this often? many roadworks? wherever in europe i've gone i've driven a car, had some awesome road trips. would be nice to do bangkok to phuket via hua hin, for 1 night, on a bike as a few sites i found advertises.[/quote]the intercity highways are pretty good in thailand and allow generally a good speed. smaller roads are still not too bad, but may be potholed here and there. i'd not recommend driving in the dark on these roads, you could easily break a tire or worse. animals may cross these smaller roads at any time.
[quote=thailandbound;1396748]when you do go outside the touristy places, are there often massage services of some sort? in other words can i assume correctly that in each and every large town in thailand there will be a massage parlour? like uk towns have a post office and a bank and a pub.[/quote]to be honest, i would not know. when i travel outside of the touristy areas, i travel with my thai gf in her car. no need to go looking for a mp, she takes good care of me. i *assume* there will be mps even in smaller cities but they are likely to be catering for thai men and not for farang. even in a "touristy" spot as kanchanaburi ("bridge over the river kwai") the one mp i visited gave a very good massage but not even a hint of offering anything more. perhaps i just picked the one and only massage only mp?
[quote=thailandbound; 1396748]on the racism issue, i'd like to quote a very good film called bulworth. if not to make a point, then just to lighten the tension:
"everybody got to keep fcuking everybody til we're all the same colour"
jay billington bulworth[/quote]i totally agree. although i'd better say nothing more. my scientific comments already got me two demerits from the admin.
Incase you did not know, this is a common STD antibiotic.
Just watching a news feed on how Z pac can cause heart attack.
[QUOTE=ThailandBound; 1396646]Dear all.
I booked my flight to BKK about a week ago! Its in September, for 6 weeks (I like to plan waaay in advance). This is my first time to Asia. I'll be in BKK from 14th to 28th ish and then want to see phuket, Pattaya, koh samui, hua hin, hat yai and maybe chiang mai and more places north. Also some places 'off the beaten path' if possible.
I had about 4million questions but thanks to this site and others I have about half a dozen left unanswered and am hoping for a little guidance.
* Firstly, if any brits, yanks, ozzies, canadians are over there when I am maybe we could meet up for a beer? I'm not looking for a travel partner exactly, just someone who perhaps is in the same boat as me. The majority of my trip will be solo, but it may be cool to meet up for a day or 2.
* Hotels: There seems to be many great 'guest-friendly' hotels but say if I book a 'regular' hotel for 2 people then pick up a girl for overnight, will the 'regular' hotel give me nay hassle?
* ATM's: Are they all safe to use? Is it similar to UK with the Link logo? Do you guys take 1 card or spread it out over many?
* Getting around: I have a motorbike licence for Uk. Seems easy enough to get the international licence. Is it a good idea to rent a moped in Thailand? Or is public transport good / cheap enough?
I was going to add some questions about girls but I'll save that for another post. Plenty of time.
Any advice, hints, tips, suggestions, critiques most welcome.
Thanks in advance.
David[/QUOTE]Be careful! Thailand is a very addictive drug. To the right guy, it's far stronger than crack cocaine! But, done right, it's far more enjoyable.
1. I'll be there next month, but probably not in September. So, can't take advantage of your kind beer offer.
2. Always book a hotel for 2 persons. Too many cheap bastards try to book a single, and then [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] and moan if the hotel wants a guest fee. Just book for 2 and avoid the hassle. I've only been hassled a bit once. In Pattaya, once, at the A-One hotel, I booked a room for two. The lady explained that if I were to bring a lady back to my room I would be charges X. 000 baht (can't remember the amount). I pointed out that I'd booked a room for two. She looked confused and conferred with her associate. She came back and said that it was OK, but she'd have to leave her I'd at the desk. Standard Operating Procedure for many hotels. Anyway, I've booked "local" hotels all over the place there, and this is the only time the question came up. Just book for 2.
3. ATMs are all over the place, especially in BKK. Take 2 cards, just in case. I had a card eaten by a machine in MBK years ago. Very unsettling feeling. Note that most banks there charge a 150 baht fee for foreign withdrawals (about $5) , and many western banks do the same. CHeck with your bank first. AFAIK, only AEON bank charges no fee. You'll play hell finding one of their ATMs. With a $10 fee every time you make a withdrawal, I found it cheaper to take a bunch of $100 bills, stash them in the room safe, and exchange at the banks in the malls.
3. I have had a motorcycle license since the '80s, but won't ride in TH, except for an occastional motorbike trip to the market in a rural town. You'll want to research how many tourists are killed on motorbikes every year in TH. Especially in Phuket. Often alcohol is involved, both on the part of the rider and the part of the truck driver who flattens the rider. Think twice about it.
4. You didn't ask, but do not fall in love with a bar girl. Period. Have fun, get a nice one to take you upcountry and look around. Treat her kindly. Pay her as agreed. But do not try to turn her into a "regular" girl or a wife. You have been warned!
[QUOTE=Phordphan;1397466]3. ATMs are all over the place, especially in BKK. Take 2 cards, just in case. I had a card eaten by a machine in MBK years ago. Very unsettling feeling. Note that most banks there charge a 150 baht fee for foreign withdrawals (about $5) , and many western banks do the same. CHeck with your bank first. AFAIK, only AEON bank charges no fee. You'll play hell finding one of their ATMs. With a $10 fee every time you make a withdrawal, I found it cheaper to take a bunch of $100 bills, stash them in the room safe, and exchange at the banks in the malls.[/QUOTE]In December 2012 AEON charged the THB150 fee. However, their ATM's allow larger withdrawals (THB40, 000) than other banks. An AEON branch is located in the lower level of the Terminal 21 shopping center. AEON ATMs can be found on level 2 at MBK, level 2 at the Siam Center and in the basement parking level of Siam Paragon. Superrich1965 offers the best exchange rates, better than any of the banks. A branch is located at the Chit Lom BTS platform.
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1397466]Be careful! Thailand is a very addictive drug. To the right guy, it's far stronger than crack cocaine! But, done right, it's far more enjoyable.
1. I'll be there next month, but probably not in September. So, can't take advantage of your kind beer offer.
2. Always book a hotel for 2 persons. Too many cheap bastards try to book a single, and then [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] and moan if the hotel wants a guest fee. Just book for 2 and avoid the hassle. I've only been hassled a bit once. In Pattaya, once, at the A-One hotel, I booked a room for two. The lady explained that if I were to bring a lady back to my room I would be charges X. 000 baht (can't remember the amount). I pointed out that I'd booked a room for two. She looked confused and conferred with her associate. She came back and said that it was OK, but she'd have to leave her I'd at the desk. Standard Operating Procedure for many hotels. Anyway, I've booked "local" hotels all over the place there, and this is the only time the question came up. Just book for 2.
3. ATMs are all over the place, especially in BKK. Take 2 cards, just in case. I had a card eaten by a machine in MBK years ago. Very unsettling feeling. Note that most banks there charge a 150 baht fee for foreign withdrawals (about $5) , and many western banks do the same. CHeck with your bank first. AFAIK, only AEON bank charges no fee. You'll play hell finding one of their ATMs. With a $10 fee every time you make a withdrawal, I found it cheaper to take a bunch of $100 bills, stash them in the room safe, and exchange at the banks in the malls.
3. I have had a motorcycle license since the '80s, but won't ride in TH, except for an occastional motorbike trip to the market in a rural town. You'll want to research how many tourists are killed on motorbikes every year in TH. Especially in Phuket. Often alcohol is involved, both on the part of the rider and the part of the truck driver who flattens the rider. Think twice about it.
4. You didn't ask, but do not fall in love with a bar girl. Period. Have fun, get a nice one to take you upcountry and look around. Treat her kindly. Pay her as agreed. But do not try to turn her into a "regular" girl or a wife. You have been warned![/QUOTE]GREAT post Bro PP! I especially appreciate points (2) and (4)! THANK YOU :)
I have to beg to differ. Aeon was NOT charging the 150 bt fee. Least not in the T21 location and Paragon nor Khon Kaen. And this was as of January 2013. Citibank at Asoke and its other location in Central World started up with that nonsense 150 bt fee. This was using a USA based debit card.
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1397497]In December 2012 AEON charged the THB150 fee. However, their ATM's allow larger withdrawals (THB40, 000) than other banks. An AEON branch is located in the lower level of the Terminal 21 shopping center. AEON ATMs can be found on level 2 at MBK, level 2 at the Siam Center and in the basement parking level of Siam Paragon. Superrich1965 offers the best exchange rates, better than any of the banks. A branch is located at the Chit Lom BTS platform.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jgm005;1397595]I have to beg to differ. Aeon was NOT charging the 150 bt fee. Least not in the T21 location and Paragon nor Khon Kaen. And this was as of January 2013. Citibank at Asoke and its other location in Central World started up with that nonsense 150 bt fee. This was using a USA based debit card.[/QUOTE]Interesting. I just now went online to check my December 2012 statement and was indeed charged a THB150 fee by AEON, and the location was at Terminal 21; and since my trip I have read on the same general travel blog on which I first learned about AEON that they had changed their policy and were now charging the THB150 fee. Perhaps after the first of the year they returned to their earlier policy. At any rate your experience is more recent than mine and presumably reflects the current policy.
Well, I am not sure what was happening on your end. I live in Nongbulamphu (Esan) and went back to 11/2012, 12/2012 and 01/2013 and no ATM surcharge when I used a AEON ATM. And in that period I used AEON ATMS in Khon Kaen, Udon Thani, T21 and Paragon. And there were many withdrawals for that is how I fund my Thai Bank Account. I can tell if there is a fee based on the fact I get reimbursed for a ATM fee. Plus I always check the exchange rate I am getting vs that shown via XE. COM. None, other then when I used a Thai bank. I am state side now so I do not have any thing more recent since 31 Jan 2013.
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1397670]Interesting. I just now went online to check my December 2012 statement and was indeed charged a THB150 fee by AEON, and the location was at Terminal 21; and since my trip I have read on the same general travel blog on which I first learned about AEON that they had changed their policy and were now charging the THB150 fee. Perhaps after the first of the year they returned to their earlier policy. At any rate your experience is more recent than mine and presumably reflects the current policy.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jgm005;1397683]Well, I am not sure what was happening on your end. I live in Nongbulamphu (Esan) and went back to 11/2012, 12/2012 and 01/2013 and no ATM surcharge when I used a AEON ATM. And in that period I used AEON ATMS in Khon Kaen, Udon Thani, T21 and Paragon. And there were many withdrawals for that is how I fund my Thai Bank Account. I can tell if there is a fee based on the fact I get reimbursed for a ATM fee. Plus I always check the exchange rate I am getting vs that shown via XE. COM. None, other then when I used a Thai bank. I am state side now so I do not have any thing more recent since 31 Jan 2013.[/QUOTE]I'm glad your spared the fees and sad I'm not. I have no explanation and am inclined to blame it on BofA; they're one of my default scapegoats.
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1397497]In December 2012 AEON charged the THB150 fee. However, their ATM's allow larger withdrawals (THB40, 000) than other banks. An AEON branch is located in the lower level of the Terminal 21 shopping center. AEON ATMs can be found on level 2 at MBK, level 2 at the Siam Center and in the basement parking level of Siam Paragon. Superrich1965 offers the best exchange rates, better than any of the banks. A branch is located at the Chit Lom BTS platform.[/QUOTE]Those greedy bastards! Damn!
I think the difference between your experience and JGM005, is that he has a Thai bank account. I believe this pesky fee is only for foreign accounts. It appears that AEON may have joined the dark side.
I appreciate the pointers on ATM locations. Their web site, in April 2012, only showed their main office and the Asoke MRT station. I looked all over ther f*cking station and didn't find it. GF does her banking at the Big C in the Suk area, and they had one. The T21 location sounds like the handiest location, but if they're now charging the fee, there's no point.
Agree on the Superrich rates.
Sorry but that is incorrect. If you read my original post I said I was and am using a USA based ATM card (State Farm Bank) to pull money from AEON (with no 150 bt fee) to feed my Thai account. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1397733]Those greedy bastards! Damn!
I think the difference between your experience and JGM005, is that he has a Thai bank account. I believe this pesky fee is only for foreign accounts. It appears that AEON may have joined the dark side.
I appreciate the pointers on ATM locations. Their web site, in April 2012, only showed their main office and the Asoke MRT station. I looked all over ther f*cking station and didn't find it. GF does her banking at the Big C in the Suk area, and they had one. The T21 location sounds like the handiest location, but if they're now charging the fee, there's no point.
Agree on the Superrich rates.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1397733]Those greedy bastards! Damn![/QUOTE]So the bank has to finance the cash machines, rent sites, have staff to fill them, monitor the accounts, provide you with an ATM card and you expect all that for free? And you complain about a small fee for the service.
Go back a decade or two to travellers' checks which you paid for up front both for the cash value and for the actual check and then got charged a fee for exchanging them into local currency.
For some reason everyone expects banks to provide a range of services for free forgetting that your minimal transactions all cost the banks money. Count yourself lucky that banks.
Bother to provide these services when they could be focussing on international investment banking and not retail consumer based banking.
[QUOTE=Jgm005;1397739]Sorry but that is incorrect. If you read my original post I said I was and am using a USA based ATM card (State Farm Bank) to pull money from AEON (with no 150 bt fee) to feed my Thai account. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Chales Schwab Bank (not brokerage) Visa Debit cards refund all ATM charges. Even from Thai ATM machines.
[QUOTE=Scorchin1470;1397799]So the bank has to finance the cash machines, rent sites, have staff to fill them, monitor the accounts, provide you with an ATM card and you expect all that for free? And you complain about a small fee for the service.[/QUOTE]Don't you think Bank's have been taking the Royal [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] in the last few years? IMO they should be keeping their heads down for a long time to come.
Regards,
BJ
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1397733]Those greedy bastards! Damn!
I think the difference between your experience and JGM005, is that he has a Thai bank account. I believe this pesky fee is only for foreign accounts. It appears that AEON may have joined the dark side.
I appreciate the pointers on ATM locations. Their web site, in April 2012, only showed their main office and the Asoke MRT station. I looked all over ther f*cking station and didn't find it. GF does her banking at the Big C in the Suk area, and they had one. The T21 location sounds like the handiest location, but if they're now charging the fee, there's no point.
Agree on the Superrich rates.[/QUOTE]I still use AEON because they allow a larger withdrawal (THB40,000). I always make the maximum withdrawal and use the ATM less frequently.
[QUOTE=Scorchin1470;1397799]So the bank has to finance the cash machines, rent sites, have staff to fill them, monitor the accounts, provide you with an ATM card and you expect all that for free? And you complain about a small fee for the service.[/QUOTE]Fully agreeing. Wondering if those guys work for free.
[QUOTE=Scorchin1470; 1397799]So the bank has to finance the cash machines, rent sites, have staff to fill them, monitor the accounts, provide you with an ATM card and you expect all that for free? And you complain about a small fee for the service.
Go back a decade or two to travellers' checks which you paid for up front both for the cash value and for the actual check and then got charged a fee for exchanging them into local currency.
For some reason everyone expects banks to provide a range of services for free forgetting that your minimal transactions all cost the banks money. Count yourself lucky that banks.
Bother to provide these services when they could be focussing on international investment banking and not retail consumer based banking.[/QUOTE]Last I recalled, all the US banks got massive taxpayer bailouts after playing fast and loose with the housing mortgage market. All with the assistance of Uncle Sam. That's my tax money they took, then refuse to lend to anybody. And, yes, I have a bunch of money in these banks and still get dinged $5 for a foreign transaction fee. The US banks don't have to support Thai ATMs. Why the hell do they need to add insult to injury?
I can understand the Thai banks charging a fee. I don't have a problem with it, but 150 baht seems a bit steep. But my main gripe is the extra $5 the US banks charge just for the privelege of accessing my money.
I just changed banks. I'll see what Chase's policy is.
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1397944]I can understand the Thai banks charging a fee. I don't have a problem with it, but 150 baht seems a bit steep. But my main gripe is the extra $5 the US banks charge just for the privelege of accessing my money.
I just changed banks. I'll see what Chase's policy is.[/QUOTE]I hate banks from the bottom of my heart, but how do you think the Thai bank gets your money from your bank account in the US? And why your bank should provide fund transfers on a free basis? Are you working for free?
The best way not to pay those fees is keep the money under your mattress. Why don't you do that? And carry the cash in your wallet. As simple as that. You will not avail of any bank service and nobody will ask you for a fee.
Best way to fight the system is not using (and benefiting) of the system.
[QUOTE=Scorchin1470;1397799]So the bank has to finance the cash machines, rent sites, have staff to fill them, monitor the accounts, provide you with an ATM card and you expect all that for free? And you complain about a small fee for the service.[/QUOTE]Nobody said banks should work for free. Cost of an inter-bank ATM transaction in Thailand, Bt. 25, international Bt 150. It is gouging done simply because tourists can and must pay up, and has nothing to do with the actual cost of providing the service.
It is right and commendable that people shares suggestions on how to avoid fees. I have one, get an ATM card with no foreign exchange fees (usually 2. 5%). These are very hard to find, but there are. Eg for the US, some credit unions, Citibank Gold account.
[QUOTE=Marcos; 1397953]Nobody said banks should work for free. Cost of an inter-bank ATM transaction in Thailand, Bt. 25, international Bt 150. It is gouging done simply because tourists can and must pay up, and has nothing to do with the actual cost of providing the service.
It is right and commendable that people shares suggestions on how to avoid fees. I have one, get an ATM card with no foreign exchange fees (usually 2. 5%). These are very hard to find, but there are. Eg for the US, some credit unions, Citibank Gold account.[/QUOTE]Whilst the surcharge on an individual withdrawal probably would not be considered excessive I think Marcos is right when he say's the banks are not just covering costs but making money. I think the possibility exists for them to keep chipping away at small charges here and there which do not represent simply covering costs.
A few years ago Banks in the UK tried to levy a 1 GBP charge for every ATM withdrawal, this caused such an outcry the scheme was scrapped. We do not have to accept every time the Banks try to bend us over.
Regards,
BJ
Interesting this is my 69th post. I am looking for sushi in BKK to eat off those naked girls. it's called (nyotaimori). I googled and searched the forum and I have found nothing. Anyone know If there is such a thing there. If so where and name please.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1397952]I hate banks from the bottom of my heart, but how do you think the Thai bank gets your money from your bank account in the US? And why your bank should provide fund transfers on a free basis? Are you working for free?
The best way not to pay those fees is keep the money under your mattress. Why don't you do that? And carry the cash in your wallet. As simple as that. You will not avail of any bank service and nobody will ask you for a fee.
Best way to fight the system is not using (and benefiting) of the system.[/QUOTE]The problem is not the fees. It is the amount. It does not cost the bank any more than 5 cents to do the electronic transactions. So to charge a $5. 00 fee from both banks for a total of $10. 00 for a 5 cents transaction is loan sharking.
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1397944]Last I recalled, all the US banks got massive taxpayer bailouts after playing fast and loose with the housing mortgage market. All with the assistance of Uncle Sam. That's my tax money they took, then refuse to lend to anybody. And, yes, I have a bunch of money in these banks and still get dinged $5 for a foreign transaction fee. The US banks don't have to support Thai ATMs. Why the hell do they need to add insult to injury?
I can understand the Thai banks charging a fee. I don't have a problem with it, but 150 baht seems a bit steep. But my main gripe is the extra $5 the US banks charge just for the privelege of accessing my money.
I just changed banks. I'll see what Chase's policy is.[/QUOTE]Don't misunderstand me. I'm not defending the banks; however, the TARP funds have been repaid and the taxpayers made whole. The new banking regulations have had a major impact on their revenues and they are working very hard to find new revenue streams.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1398092]The problem is not the fees. It is the amount. It does not cost the bank any more than 5 cents to do the electronic transactions. So to charge a $5. 00 fee from both banks for a total of $10. 00 for a 5 cents transaction is loan sharking.[/QUOTE]Exaggeration and inaccuracy does your cause no good.
It is not just the 5 cent cost of the electronic transfer. There are many other costs in giving you the convenience of being able to draw money from an account overseas.
Please provide a real example of a $10 fee.
Banks have a duty to their shareholders to make a profit and of course they choose the easy option of an automatic charge
"Loan sharking" is a totally different issue and irrelevant to your concerns.
[QUOTE=Nclpimp;1398041]Interesting this is my 69th post. I am looking for sushi in BKK to eat off those naked girls. it's called (nyotaimori). I googled and searched the forum and I have found nothing. Anyone know If there is such a thing there. If so where and name please.[/QUOTE]Just buy some sushi, available in any of the up-market foodcourts in the shopping malls and get a Japan doll from an a-gogo like Baccara.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1397952]I hate banks from the bottom of my heart, but how do you think the Thai bank gets your money from your bank account in the US? And why your bank should provide fund transfers on a free basis? Are you working for free?
The best way not to pay those fees is keep the money under your mattress. Why don't you do that? And carry the cash in your wallet. As simple as that. You will not avail of any bank service and nobody will ask you for a fee.
Best way to fight the system is not using (and benefiting) of the system.[/QUOTE]I will happily pay the banks any reasonable fee, provided they pay me a nice interest on the money on my account. The way it now is, they get to use my money nearly for free and then have the nerve to charge me if I dare to ask some of it back.
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[QUOTE=Scorchin1470; 1398102]Exaggeration and inaccuracy does your cause no good.
It is not just the 5 cent cost of the electronic transfer. There are many other costs in giving you the convenience of being able to draw money from an account overseas.
Please provide a real example of a $10 fee.
Banks have a duty to their shareholders to make a profit and of course they choose the easy option of an automatic charge
"Loan sharking" is a totally different issue and irrelevant to your concerns.[/QUOTE]I can provide a bunch of $10 charges. 150 baht = $5 these days, and Wells Fargo dinged me about $5 for every foreign ATM withdrawal. I finally got rid of WFB due to their rapacious service charges. Nickel and dimed for every damn thing, despite having multiple personal and business accounts.
But to go back to the original point, due to these fees a newbie may wish to consider either bringing cash, or structuring his withdrawals in such a way as to minimize trips to the ATM, thus avoiding these ridiculous service charges.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1398092]The problem is not the fees. It is the amount. It does not cost the bank any more than 5 cents to do the electronic transactions. So to charge a $5. 00 fee from both banks for a total of $10. 00 for a 5 cents transaction is loan sharking.[/QUOTE]It does not cost McDonald's any more than 40 cents to make a Big Mac, nor does it cost them any more than 10 cents for a refreshing cup of Coca-Cola. But uhhh. Employees have to be paid, real estate has to be paid, utilities have to be paid, taxes have to be paid, and shareholders expect a return on investment. It's called business.
If it's that big of a deal then withdraw your cash before you come for free and go exchange it yourself. One great thing about Thailand is all of the currency exchange kiosks and the great rate you get. Try that shit in Europe.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1398350]It does not cost McDonald's any more than 40 cents to make a Big Mac, nor does it cost them any more than 10 cents for a refreshing cup of Coca-Cola. But uhhh. Employees have to be paid, real estate has to be paid, utilities have to be paid, taxes have to be paid, and shareholders expect a return on investment. It's called business.[/QUOTE]No It's called gouging, because in most countries of the world there is isn't this extra fee, meaning that banks are happy enough taking TWO point FIVE percent off any exchange. But here, since tourists keep coming and coming, they figured they could impose it. We're talking Thai banks, that are all making huge profits, check they fact sheets.
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1398331]I can provide a bunch of $10 charges. 150 baht = $5 these days, and Wells Fargo dinged me about $5 for every foreign ATM withdrawal. I finally got rid of WFB due to their rapacious service charges. Nickel and dimed for every damn thing, despite having multiple personal and business accounts.
But to go back to the original point, due to these fees a newbie may wish to consider either bringing cash, or structuring his withdrawals in such a way as to minimize trips to the ATM, thus avoiding these ridiculous service charges.[/QUOTE]1. You say you can provide a bunch of $10 charges but talk then about $5 charges?
2. Your second point is valid but many a newbie may not be street wise on the perils of carrying a shed load of cash.
3. Always withdraw the maximum you can as many fees are fixed irrespective of the amount you take out.
[QUOTE=Marcos;1398352]No It's called gouging, because in most countries of the world there is isn't this extra fee, meaning that banks are happy enough taking TWO point FIVE percent off any exchange. But here, since tourists keep coming and coming, they figured they could impose it. We're talking Thai banks, that are all making huge profits, check they fact sheets.[/QUOTE]Supply and demand also dictate prices. Especially when there is demand. Somebody is producing and selling those ATMmachines at a cost. Somebody has to produce the softwares to handle them and make sure the given money goes back at giving bank. This might happen a few days later and somebody has to pay for those days. The example on McDonald is pretty much appropriate.
Products the company in work for cost, at factory. 1/5 of their retail. Sounds like a super mark up, but it is just about. As the factory, with those prices will not be able to sell the products even to a shop 100mtrs away from their gates.
The low costs policies, IMHO, have f* up the economy with the rush to lower prices, lower costs, job cuttings, etc etc. In a few words:economy has shrunk and I can't see the benefit in this. The poor guys are still poor, if not poorer, regardless if, apparently, the price of a product dropped. And this has been obtained also challenging quality, ie life quality too.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1398358]Supply and demand also dictate prices. Especially when there is demand. Somebody is producing and selling those ATMmachines at a cost. Somebody has to produce the softwares to handle them and make sure the given money goes back at giving bank. This might happen a few days later and somebody has to pay for those days. The example on McDonald is pretty much appropriate.
Products the company in work for cost, at factory. 1/5 of their retail. Sounds like a super mark up, but it is just about. As the factory, with those prices will not be able to sell the products even to a shop 100mtrs away from their gates.
The low costs policies, IMHO, have f* up the economy with the rush to lower prices, lower costs, job cuttings, etc etc. In a few words:economy has shrunk and I can't see the benefit in this. The poor guys are still poor, if not poorer, regardless if, apparently, the price of a product dropped. And this has been obtained also challenging quality, ie life quality too.[/QUOTE]Seems like you are failing to understand the issue here, so I will repeat it once again, Usually I let things go thing time I won't (grin).
Cost of inter-bank ATM transaction withing Thailand: Bt. 25. That apparently covers already all the costs you mentioned, since Thai banks are doing very well.
Cost of an international ATM transaction: TWO point FIVE percent of the transaction value, PLUS Bt. 150, PLUS $5 (sometime) at the debited account.
Happens in Thailand and NOT in other countries.
So, we are talking DOUBLE PRICING, or GOUGING here. Not fair compensation for services rendered.
And please, spare us the economic 101 lectures. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1398358]Supply and demand also dictate prices. Especially when there is demand. Somebody is producing and selling those ATMmachines at a cost. Somebody has to produce the softwares to handle them and make sure the given money goes back at giving bank. This might happen a few days later and somebody has to pay for those days. The example on McDonald is pretty much appropriate.
Products the company in work for cost, at factory. 1/5 of their retail. Sounds like a super mark up, but it is just about. As the factory, with those prices will not be able to sell the products even to a shop 100mtrs away from their gates.
The low costs policies, IMHO, have f* up the economy with the rush to lower prices, lower costs, job cuttings, etc etc. In a few words:economy has shrunk and I can't see the benefit in this. The poor guys are still poor, if not poorer, regardless if, apparently, the price of a product dropped. And this has been obtained also challenging quality, ie life quality too.[/QUOTE]Spoken like a true banker. There is a difference between giving dividends and greed for greed's sake. There is no issue of supply and demand here in order for the justification of 150B charge. They are taking advantage of the people. The software costs and the ATM costs are capital costs which are amortized over the entire operation. Today's transaction are done electronically and no actual physical transactions take place. McDonald's analogy is like apples and oranges. They provide value for their products.
As for the low cost policies, it is the result of the greed to make as much money off the customers. So if the poor guys were paid better, the economy would be much stronger. The poor are still poorer but the rich are getting richer. Wasn't the ATMs brought in to reduce costs for the banks? Less tellers etc. Now I don't know about European banks, I am talking about US banks.
[QUOTE=Marcos; 1398368]Seems like you are failing to understand the issue here, so I will repeat it once again, Usually I let things go thing time I won't (grin).
Cost of inter-bank ATM transaction withing Thailand: Bt. 25. That apparently covers already all the costs you mentioned, since Thai banks are doing very well.
Cost of an international ATM transaction: TWO point FIVE percent of the transaction value, PLUS Bt. 150, PLUS $5 (sometime) at the debited account.
Happens in Thailand and NOT in other countries.
So, we are talking DOUBLE PRICING, or GOUGING here. Not fair compensation for services rendered.
And please, spare us the economic 101 lectures. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Fairness? What is the problem. Show them where they belong. Don't accept the 150 Baht charge. Go local, open an account with Kasikorn and voila! As long as there are enough fools to pay up, they win. And Yeah, 150 baht is less than what you expect to pay for a coffee back home, so who cares.
[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1398557]Fairness? What is the problem. Show them where they belong. Don't accept the 150 Baht charge. Go local, open an account with Kasikorn and voila! As long as there are enough fools to pay up, they win. And Yeah, 150 baht is less than what you expect to pay for a coffee back home, so who cares.[/QUOTE]Tiger, I have a Kasikorn account since years. Another time we can talk about the fees they charge when receiving money.
And "back home" where I'm from, a Illy coffee (just to say a known brand) costs a max of Bt. 50. I simply like to value my money.
[QUOTE=Marcos; 1398568]Tiger, I have a Kasikorn account since years. Another time we can talk about the fees they charge when receiving money.
And "back home" where I'm from, a Illy coffee (just to say a known brand) costs a max of Bt. 50. I simply like to value my money.[/QUOTE]Kudos to you then. One of the very few who take the effort to understand the game.
Which Thai bank can you use to open a normal saving account with a tourist visa?
[QUOTE=Scorchin1470; 1398355]1. You say you can provide a bunch of $10 charges but talk then about $5 charges?
2. Your second point is valid but many a newbie may not be street wise on the perils of carrying a shed load of cash.
3. Always withdraw the maximum you can as many fees are fixed irrespective of the amount you take out.[/QUOTE]$5 x 2 = $10. Right? $5 on the front end and another $5 on the back end. Thus, $10 each withdrawal.
Nobody should carry a ton of cash. An in-room safe is mandatory. Only carry what you intend to spend for the day.
Yes, it's best to withdraw the max. Reduces the fee as a percentage of the total. Unfortunately, the ATMs I pick always seem to be a bit short of cash and I can't withdraw the max.
[QUOTE=Marcos; 1398368]Seems like you are failing to understand the issue here, so I will repeat it once again, Usually I let things go thing time I won't (grin).
Cost of inter-bank ATM transaction withing Thailand: Bt. 25. That apparently covers already all the costs you mentioned, since Thai banks are doing very well.
Cost of an international ATM transaction: TWO point FIVE percent of the transaction value, PLUS Bt. 150, PLUS $5 (sometime) at the debited account.
Happens in Thailand and NOT in other countries.
So, we are talking DOUBLE PRICING, or GOUGING here. Not fair compensation for services rendered.
And please, spare us the economic 101 lectures. Thanks.[/QUOTE]This reminds me of a business run by an acquaintance of a friend. His business is phones and long distance services. The catch is that it's for "pay phones" in prisons. He has a contact with the state granting him a monopoly (at least in specific prisons, not sure if it's state-wide). The inmates have to make collect calls via these phones, and they have no choice but to utilize this guy's long distance service. As you can imagine, the rates are astronomical. Bend over and grab your ankles rates.
So, if the families of the inmates want to speak to said inmates, they get well and truly fucked. And this guy is uber-wealthy, on the backs of people who can probably least afford it.
Now, I'm capitalist to the core, and have little sympathy for most prisoners (bogus drug crimes are a big exception) , but reaming people just because you can is wrong. I don't mean supply and demand, I'm talking about taking advantage of people just because you can, or rigging the system so people have no other choice.
Maybe ATM fees aren't on the same level, but the concept seems to be the same. Thais are notorious for double pricing, and as a tourist what are you going to do about it? The US banks fees are just salt in the wound.
I have two opened with Kasikorn. One at an Asoke branch and another up in Esan in Nongbulamphu. No problem what so ever at the time. Can not speak for now a days.
[QUOTE=Egy Monger;1398698]Which Thai bank can you use to open a normal saving account with a tourist visa?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Egy Monger;1398698]Which Thai bank can you use to open a normal saving account with a tourist visa?[/QUOTE]In theory, none.
[QUOTE=Pita123;1398827]In theory, none.[/QUOTE]Incorrect, because Thailand has laws and regulations against foreigners doing pretty much anything, but not against them having a bank account. If banks don't, it's only because of their internal policies. So we know that Kasikorn does, and is not breaking any rule.
[QUOTE=Marcos;1398845]Incorrect, because Thailand has laws and regulations against foreigners doing pretty much anything, but not against them having a bank account. If banks don't, it's only because of their internal policies. So we know that Kasikorn does, and is not breaking any rule.[/QUOTE]So you are saying that they don't require a work permit?
[QUOTE=Pita123;1398848]So you are saying that they don't require a work permit?[/QUOTE]Pita123,
For a current account you need a work permit / retirement visa. For a savings account not, you can open that with a tourist visa.
Adding the TIT factor --- it will be different from bank to bank, but Bangkok Bank, SCB and Kasikorn usually handle it this way.
Giotto
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[QUOTE=Jgm005;1398821]I have two opened with Kasikorn. One at an Asoke branch and another up in Esan in Nongbulamphu. No problem what so ever at the time. Can not speak for now a days.[/QUOTE]This has piqued my interest. If I can open a savings account with just my passport, are there any advantages?
Are there a butt-load of monthly service charges, a'la the USA?
Can I transfer money from my US bank to my TH savings account with minimal hassle?
At this point can I withdraw funds from my TH account when in LOS with minimal surcharges?
What sort of interest do TH banks pay on a savings account? Here it's just above 0.
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1398916]This has piqued my interest. If I can open a savings account with just my passport, are there any advantages?
Are there a butt-load of monthly service charges, a'la the USA?
Can I transfer money from my US bank to my TH savings account with minimal hassle?
At this point can I withdraw funds from my TH account when in LOS with minimal surcharges?
What sort of interest do TH banks pay on a savings account? Here it's just above 0.[/QUOTE]Why don't you contact the bank directly? I have found great personal expertise on her does not translate into generic information.
Try using Bangkok Bank savings account with an ATM routing through their New York offices's ABA number so your USA bank treats it as a transfer to your external USA account. Citibank does not charge me any fee for a three day transfer. You will probably need to confirm two small deposit amounts before you are set up.
Search Bangkok Bank New York for numbers and details.
[QUOTE=Scorchin1470;1398927]Why don't you contact the bank directly? I have found great personal expertise on her does not translate into generic information.[/QUOTE]
For fees go here: (make your way down to the "Schedule of Fees" Section)
[url]http://www.kasikornbank.com/EN/ServicesChannel/SearchServiceChannel/Internet/Pages/KCyberBanking.aspx#fees[/url]
I do not wire transfer from USA to my Kasikorn. I ATM feed it from AEON machines.
Interest is next to non-existant.
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1398916]This has piqued my interest. If I can open a savings account with just my passport, are there any advantages?
Are there a butt-load of monthly service charges, a'la the USA?
Can I transfer money from my US bank to my TH savings account with minimal hassle?
At this point can I withdraw funds from my TH account when in LOS with minimal surcharges?
What sort of interest do TH banks pay on a savings account? Here it's just above 0.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Phordphan;1398916]This has piqued my interest. If I can open a savings account with just my passport, are there any advantages?[/QUOTE]I have Kasikorn as well. No more 150 baht foreign card withdrawal fees is the advantage. But if you do not live here, are not here frequently, are not intending to deposit astronomical sums, or stay at a hotel that has a safe then there is really no point. Bring money to exchange and keep it in the safe in the hotel as most normal people do the world over.
[QUOTE=Phordphan;1398916]Are there a butt-load of monthly service charges, a'la the USA?[/QUOTE]I have never been charged anything. Even in the USA I have HSBC and credit union and have never been charged anything.
[QUOTE=Phordphan;1398916]Can I transfer money from my US bank to my TH savings account with minimal hassle?[/QUOTE]Maximum hassle + fees. (One problem is that US banks don't use a Swift Code like everybody else in the world.) Better to bring the cash, exchange it, and deposit it.
[QUOTE=Phordphan;1398916]At this point can I withdraw funds from my TH account when in LOS with minimal surcharges?[/QUOTE]No surcharges. (I thought that was the point of having an account - because people don't want to pay the 150 baht surcharge for using foreign cards.)
[QUOTE=Phordphan;1398916]What sort of interest do TH banks pay on a savings account? Here it's just above 0.[/QUOTE]Interest Rates for an Individual.
Savings.
Last Updated : 14 Feb 2013.
Type Rate.
< 1, 000 million 0. 75.
Fixed Deposit.
Last Updated : 14 Feb 2013.
Type Rate.
3 Months 6 Months 12 Months 24 Months.
< 1. 0 million 1. 60 1. 95 2. 30 2. 55.
1. 0 million to < 10. 0 million 1. 70 1. 95 2. 30 2. 55.
10. 0 million to < 30. 0 million 1. 70 2. 00 2. 45 2. 55.
30. 0 million to < 50. 0 million 1. 80 2. 00 2. 45 2. 55.
50. 0 million to < 100. 0 million 2. 00 2. 25 2. 45 2. 55.
100. 0 million to < 5000. 0 million 2. 00 2. 25 2. 45 2. 55.
5000. 0 million 2. 00 2. 25 2. 45 2. 55
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1398988]I have Kasikorn as well.
One problem is that US banks don't use a Swift Code like everybody else in the world.[/QUOTE]What!
This not true. USA banks do indeed use Swift Code, which can easily be found on the internet.
For example.
[url]http://www.theswiftcodes.com/united-states/[/url]
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1398988]I have Kasikorn as well. No more 150 baht foreign card withdrawal fees is the advantage. But if you do not live here, are not here frequently, are not intending to deposit astronomical sums, or stay at a hotel that has a safe then there is really no point. Bring money to exchange and keep it in the safe in the hotel as most normal people do the world over.
I have never been charged anything. Even in the USA I have HSBC and credit union and have never been charged anything.
Maximum hassle + fees. (One problem is that US banks don't use a Swift Code like everybody else in the world.) Better to bring the cash, exchange it, and deposit it.
No surcharges. (I thought that was the point of having an account. Because people don't want to pay the 150 baht surcharge for using foreign cards.)
Interest Rates for an Individual.
Savings.
Last Updated : 14 Feb 2013.
Type Rate.
< 1, 000 million 0. 75.
Fixed Deposit.
Last Updated : 14 Feb 2013.
Type Rate.
3 Months 6 Months 12 Months 24 Months.
< 1. 0 million 1. 60 1. 95 2. 30 2. 55.
1. 0 million to < 10. 0 million 1. 70 1. 95 2. 30 2. 55.
10. 0 million to < 30. 0 million 1. 70 2. 00 2. 45 2. 55.
30. 0 million to < 50. 0 million 1. 80 2. 00 2. 45 2. 55.
50. 0 million to < 100. 0 million 2. 00 2. 25 2. 45 2. 55.
100. 0 million to < 5000. 0 million 2. 00 2. 25 2. 45 2. 55.
5000. 0 million 2. 00 2. 25 2. 45 2. 55[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Jgm005; 1398977]For fees go here: (make your way down to the "Schedule of Fees" Section)
[url]http://www.kasikornbank.com/EN/ServicesChannel/SearchServiceChannel/Internet/Pages/KCyberBanking.aspx#fees[/url]
I do not wire transfer from USA to my Kasikorn. I ATM feed it from AEON machines.
Interest is next to non-existant.[/QUOTE]Thanks so much for the information, guys!
I've been moving my stuff out of Wells Fargo due to the constant maintenance charges and petty fees for this and that. And, yes, I understand the comment about major hassle wiring money. I was doing business with a BKK company and needed to wire money. OMG what a hassle, and WFB charged like a wounded rhino on top of it.
I hope to be coming more frequently, and I like the idea of not having to carry a wad of Benjamins around to stash in the hotel safe. It's my usual MO, but I'd like to avoid it.
So, I'll take your advice and my GF and I will visit a Kasikorn branch and see about an account.
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1398916]This has piqued my interest. If I can open a savings account with just my passport, are there any advantages?
Are there a butt-load of monthly service charges, a'la the USA?
Can I transfer money from my US bank to my TH savings account with minimal hassle?
At this point can I withdraw funds from my TH account when in LOS with minimal surcharges?
What sort of interest do TH banks pay on a savings account? Here it's just above 0.[/QUOTE]Another option for moving money easily without hassle of international fees etc. Try Bangkok Bank, you can transfer from your US account domestically through their branch in NY. Just send in USD and it will convert automatically to THB with more favorable rates. I use this once or twice a year to move cash to my Thai Bangkok Bank acct:
[url]http://www.bangkokbank.com/BangkokBank/PersonalBanking/DailyBanking/TransferingFunds/TransferringIntoThailand/ReceivingFundsfromUSA/Pages/ReceivingFundsfromUSA.aspx[/url]
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1398897]Pita123,
For a current account you need a work permit / retirement visa. For a savings account not, you can open that with a tourist visa.[/QUOTE]Or even with a 30-days visa exempt entry.
Although cash is good if you have the ability to obtain Travelers checks free at home the exchange for Travelers checks are higher than cash! Food for thought?
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1399203]Although cash is good if you have the ability to obtain Travelers checks free at home the exchange for Travelers checks are higher than cash! Food for thought?
LBM[/QUOTE]Can you please elaborate on this?
I was planning to exchange cash in the US before my trip but I can also get travelers checks and exchange them after I arrive.
Where is the best place to exchange while in BKK?
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1398988]Maximum hassle + fees. (One problem is that US banks don't use a Swift Code like everybody else in the world.) Better to bring the cash, exchange it, and deposit it.[/QUOTE]American banks do have a Swift Code. If you talk to the dumb tellers they have no clue what you are talking about. Talk to the wire transfer department or the manager and they will give it.
ABB routing is used for domestic WT. Swift for International WT.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1399239]American banks do have a Swift Code.[/QUOTE]True, I comleted an international wire (with swift code) before from Chase bank but the transfer fee was almost as high as the amount I transferred.
http://www.theswiftcodes.com/united-states
[QUOTE=Run Mann; 1399253]True, I comleted an international wire (with swift code) before from Chase bank but the transfer fee was almost as high as the amount I transferred.
[url]http://www.theswiftcodes.com/united-states[/url][/QUOTE]Agree 200. I have made only a few Wire transfers, with Swift Code, from Vanguard (USA) to my BKK Kasikorn account. Fees and poor exchange rate is why I do not do it. As said I spoon feed my Kasikorn account via AEON ATMS.
[QUOTE=Duniawala; 1399239]American banks do have a Swift Code. If you talk to the dumb tellers they have no clue what you are talking about. Talk to the wire transfer department or the manager and they will give it.
ABB routing is used for domestic WT. Swift for International WT.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I based my info off of my girlfriend trying to wire money to me in the USA from Ireland a few years ago. She couldn't because nobody in Dublin knew what a routing number was and nobody in Atlanta knew what a Swift Code was.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1399309]Thanks. I based my info off of my girlfriend trying to wire money to me in the USA from Ireland a few years ago. She couldn't because nobody in Dublin knew what a routing number was and nobody in Atlanta knew what a Swift Code was.[/QUOTE]Bit saying it was "Dublin". No one in Ireland uses banks.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1399239]Talk to the wire transfer department or the manager.[/QUOTE]This is really good advise. Be sure to ask them about Recurrent Electronic Wire Transfers. With E-W-T's you can wire any amount to a chosen account. There is a little bit of paperwork to complete in order to set up the account. But no more than you are filling out each time you want to send a regular wire transfer. It may take as long as a week to have the account configured by your bank. Once completed, you need only call your banks recurrent wire transfer number, punch in the account info and your passcode and you can transfer your funds to your Thai account. If done before 11 am (EST-USA) the funds typically show up the next business day. I pay a fixed fee of $30 USD for each transfer regardless of amount. Simple, easy, and reliable. I've done this for years without any problems and typically transfer larger amounts to improve the dollar-cost average.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1399309]Thanks. I based my info off of my girlfriend trying to wire money to me in the USA from Ireland a few years ago. She couldn't because nobody in Dublin knew what a routing number was and nobody in Atlanta knew what a Swift Code was.[/QUOTE]Did you speak USA English? If so, they probably did not understand you.
[QUOTE=Gg2002; 1399212]Can you please elaborate on this?
I was planning to exchange cash in the US before my trip but I can also get travelers checks and exchange them after I arrive.
Where is the best place to exchange while in BKK?[/QUOTE]I can't tell you where since I'm not in BKK, What I do noticed in Pattaya, and it has been a while since I went around looking for the best exchange rate. When I did, about a year ago for example I noticed that the booth inside Big C Extra near the video outlet which by the way is a Bangkok Bank Booth, but seem to have much better rates than Bangkok Bank branches throughout Pattaya? They were also higher than all the banks around Pattaya.
I walked by this booth for G. P. Since the Dollar to Baht ratio has been dropping. What I noticed is for a 100 USD note for example it is around 29. 43, Traveler checks says 29. 51, so like I said if you don't have to pay for these Traveler Checks to be issue at home then you can come out ahead I guess? But if you have to pay for them to be issue coming out ahead most likely wouldn't happen unless the rate is so much higher to offset the cost of TC?
From my experience if you exchange your USD cash for Baht at U.S. the rate would be even lower than in Thailand.
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1399457]I walked by this booth for G. P. Since the Dollar to Baht ratio has been dropping. What I noticed is for a 100 USD note for example it is around 29. 43, Traveler checks says 29. 51, so like I said if you don't have to pay for these Traveler Checks to be issue at home then you can come out ahead I guess? But if you have to pay for them to be issue coming out ahead most likely wouldn't happen unless the rate is so much higher to offset the cost of TC?[/QUOTE]I cashed in $100 in TC yesterday at Kasikorn. The rate was 29. 32 baht-60 baht fee-6 baht stamp duty. So for US$100 TC I ended up with 2866 baht.
I had not signed the top line where it says sign here when received. The lady at the first booth went ballistic and refused to cash it because there was no signature there. I said no problem I can sign it now. So I signed it and still nothing. I went to the one down the street and the guy cashed it. I have very limited experience with TC (this is my second time using them. Both times awards from work) so I am not at all familiar with the ins and outs.
[QUOTE=Josh Inyu;1399386]This is really good advise. Be sure to ask them about Recurrent Electronic Wire Transfers. With E-W-T's you can wire any amount to a chosen account. There is a little bit of paperwork to complete in order to set up the account. But no more than you are filling out each time you want to send a regular wire transfer. It may take as long as a week to have the account configured by your bank. Once completed, you need only call your banks recurrent wire transfer number, punch in the account info and your passcode and you can transfer your funds to your Thai account. If done before 11 am (EST-USA) the funds typically show up the next business day. I pay a fixed fee of $30 USD for each transfer regardless of amount. Simple, easy, and reliable. I've done this for years without any problems and typically transfer larger amounts to improve the dollar-cost average.[/QUOTE]With Citibank you do not need any form signed and can do everything online. I've never put foot into a Citibank branch not even to open the account, for which I received a bonus of $150. Outgoing wire fee is $30 ($20 for Citigold accounts). When sending to Kasikork, someone then takes $15 and neither bank will disclose who did. Sending to Citi Thailand account is free, but apparently Citi Thailand requires a work permit to open an account.
[url]https://online.citibank.com/JRS/portal/template.do?ID=MoneyXfrCompare[/url]
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1399492]I cashed in $100 in TC yesterday at Kasikorn. The rate was 29. 32 baht-60 baht fee-6 baht stamp duty. So for US$100 TC I ended up with 2866 baht.
I had not signed the top line where it says sign here when received. The lady at the first booth went ballistic and refused to cash it because there was no signature there. I said no problem I can sign it now. So I signed it and still nothing. I went to the one down the street and the guy cashed it. I have very limited experience with TC (this is my second time using them. Both times awards from work) so I am not at all familiar with the ins and outs.[/QUOTE]Not sure of all the extra's required or not! My opinion was based on what I see on the board so if
You or someone recently cash TC. And the rate is higher but you have additional charges it might
Not be worth bring TC even if you don't pay for them in the USA etc. Then when you add up
Everything it is the same or lower that cash then of course why even bother?
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1399603].
Not be worth bring TC even if you don't pay for them in the USA etc. Then when you add up
Everything it is the same or lower that cash then of course why even bother?
LBM[/QUOTE]TC's provides safety. If lost and stolen you can get replacement for them unlike the bank notes.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1399702]TC's provides safety. If lost and stolen you can get replacement for them unlike the bank notes.[/QUOTE]True but my reply was only on the higher exchange rate offer compare to cash!
LBM
Just heard back from my Chase rep. They want 3% of each foreign withdrawal!
So, on a $500 withdrawal, that's $15, plus the $5 that the Thai bank gets.
I don't care how badly banks need to "make a living." This, as my UK friends say, is taking the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url].
So, this April I'm just going to bring a wad of Benjamins. Screw these people.
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1400374]Just heard back from my Chase rep. They want 3% of each foreign withdrawal!
So, on a $500 withdrawal, that's $15, plus the $5 that the Thai bank gets.
I don't care how badly banks need to "make a living." This, as my UK friends say, is taking the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url].
So, this April I'm just going to bring a wad of Benjamins. Screw these people.[/QUOTE]My account is with Bank of America. I used the AEON ATM at Terminal 21. I paid $5.00 plus 1 percent. So for example, I made a THB40,000 withdrawal for which my account was hit for US$1306.29 plus fees of US$18. 06 (US$5. 00 + US$13.06).
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1400381]My account is with Bank of America. I used the AEON ATM at Terminal 21. I paid $5.00 plus 1 percent. So for example, I made a THB40,000 withdrawal for which my account was hit for US$1306.29 plus fees of US$18. 06 (US$5. 00 + US$13.06).[/QUOTE]When the Thai banks started charging $5 I was not happy. When my CU then followed suit, I was less happy. But JFC, I have to hope that a bank provides a complementary tube of KY when you open an account with them.
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1400381]My account is with Bank of America. I used the AEON ATM at Terminal 21. I paid $5.00 plus 1 percent. So for example, I made a THB40,000 withdrawal for which my account was hit for US$1306.29 plus fees of US$18. 06 (US$5. 00 + US$13.06).[/QUOTE]I don't think you are done yet.
I bet they shaved off more profit in the currency conversion you don't see in the $1306. 29 What day did you take the money (where was the exact rate on that day) so you can figure how much they took on this component.
BOA has been screwing people since I angrily left them in 1987 and they have always been leading the way for the rest of the pack. I honestly don't know why people go to them in the first place. Once I went with Charles Schwab in 87 and I never looked back. Best thing I ever did. They are competitive and never any nickle and dime-ing account charges the whole time I have been with them.
[QUOTE=Ehunter; 1400534]I don't think you are done yet.
I bet they shaved off more profit in the currency conversion you don't see in the $1306. 29 What day did you take the money (where was the exact rate on that day) so you can figure how much they took on this component.
BOA has been screwing people since I angrily left them in 1987 and they have always been leading the way for the rest of the pack. I honestly don't know why people go to them in the first place. Once I went with Charles Schwab in 87 and I never looked back. Best thing I ever did. They are competitive and never any nickle and dime-ing account charges the whole time I have been with them.[/QUOTE]Well, let's do the math: 40, 000/1306. 29 = 30. 62. At the time the exchange rate was 30. 63+- and I was getting about 30. 4 for $100 bills at Superrich1965. So I would have come out ahead had a brought a stack of $100's with me, but the amount of cash I burned through on that trip would have required a rather large stack of $100's. I've been with BofA for over twenty years. I pay no fees on things like accounts, wire transfers, travelers checks, etc. So I can't complain. Of course they pay next to nothing on the balance I maintain, so indeed these services are not free. I manage an elderly relatives financial affairs and her bank incessantly solicits my business. They can't beat "free" and the interest they pay is more or less equally pathetic so I stick with BofA. But I'd move my banking if another bank made a better offer. Of course, first I'd go to BofA and ask them if they're interested in keeping my business. Glad your happy with Chuck. Most people can't say the same about their bank.
As this is my first time visiting Thailand (Phuket and Bangkok) , I was wondering if anyone can advise me as to the need for any innoculations prior to my trip.
I asked my doctoer and he advised me to look at the CDC website which does advise to get Hep B vaccine as well as other precautions.
Do any of you do this? Is this necessary?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Gg2002; 1400593]As this is my first time visiting Thailand (Phuket and Bangkok) , I was wondering if anyone can advise me as to the need for any innoculations prior to my trip.
I asked my doctoer and he advised me to look at the CDC website which does advise to get Hep B vaccine as well as other precautions.
Do any of you do this? Is this necessary?
Thanks[/QUOTE]No, it is not. And I'm not saying that because "I never got it".
[QUOTE=Gg2002; 1400593]As this is my first time visiting Thailand (Phuket and Bangkok) , I was wondering if anyone can advise me as to the need for any innoculations prior to my trip.
I asked my doctoer and he advised me to look at the CDC website which does advise to get Hep B vaccine as well as other precautions.
Do any of you do this? Is this necessary?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Absolutely get the Hep vaccines. While your there get and updated tetanus which includes most importantly diphtheria & pertussis. Lastly, may as well get a shingles shot. I had a mild case a few months ago and I'm well below the age for that vaccine or malady. It was mild but now I have a natural immunity for a while but a full-blown case can be hell and easily avoidable.
[QUOTE=Gg2002; 1400593]As this is my first time visiting Thailand (Phuket and Bangkok) , I was wondering if anyone can advise me as to the need for any innoculations prior to my trip.
I asked my doctoer and he advised me to look at the CDC website which does advise to get Hep B vaccine as well as other precautions.
Do any of you do this? Is this necessary?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Mongering or otherwise known as indiscriminate sexual encounters has its risks. Get inoculations as necessary. That is one less thing you need to worry about. If you are a fan of BBBJ and bareback sex you are putting yourself in danger from any number of STD.
Just because others have not been infected does not mean anything. Be very careful in Thailand as it attracts sex tourists from all over the world.
It appears that this site is good to find medical and financial advise. Does anyone here know where to find advice on finding hookers in Bangkok?
Thanks,
BPII
[QUOTE=Big Poppa II; 1400609]It appears that this site is good to find medical and financial advise. Does anyone here know where to find advice on finding hookers in Bangkok?
Thanks,
BPII[/QUOTE]Nope. What do you mean hookers? We have no hookers here. You are in the wrong site buddy. You need to go to nickelodeon. Com.
[QUOTE=Big Poppa II; 1400609]It appears that this site is good to find medical and financial advise. Does anyone here know where to find advice on finding hookers in Bangkok?
Thanks,
BPII[/QUOTE]Please advise. How do airline loyalty program status and flight cost discussions help us "on finding hookers in Bangkok" I wonder?
[QUOTE=Big Poppa II; 1383406]I checked United and the lowest reward travel I see is 65, 000 miles in coach RT. I'm 1K and 2M. How did you get such a good deal?
Thanks, BP[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gg2002; 1400593]As this is my first time visiting Thailand (Phuket and Bangkok) , I was wondering if anyone can advise me as to the need for any innoculations prior to my trip.
I asked my doctoer and he advised me to look at the CDC website which does advise to get Hep B vaccine as well as other precautions. Do any of you do this? Is this necessary?
Thanks[/QUOTE]To look at the web sites. That is what you pay him for. He will research the same web site (s) and make a judgement on what you need.
This is a sex site not a medical site and you will be flooded with inaccurate advice and here isa bit. You don't need rabies inoculations unless you are spending along time up-country.
In 40 years of international travel I have never seen nor heard directly of rabid animals
[QUOTE=Sammon; 1400605]Mongering or otherwise known as indiscriminate sexual encounters has its risks. Get inoculations as necessary. That is one less thing you need to worry about. If you are a fan of BBBJ and bareback sex you are putting yourself in danger from any number of STD.
Just because others have not been infected does not mean anything. Be very careful in Thailand as it attracts sex tourists from all over the world.[/QUOTE]This is the kind of stuff that is annoying.
Thanks for the advice.
What a fricken hypocrite.
Just on 3/15 you reported how you have gotten 3 girls pregnant. And your 1500+ posts are full of risky sexual encounters. Yet you are suggesting to practice safe sex? Look in the mirror.
[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1400618]Please advise. How do airline loyalty program status and flight cost discussions help us "on finding hookers in Bangkok" I wonder?[/QUOTE]To answer your question " I wonder " What a person save on airfare can be applied towards finding hookers of any value and if cheaper they can find more and and do more?
LBM
[QUOTE=Big Poppa II; 1400609]It appears that this site is good to find medical and financial advise. Does anyone here know where to find advice on finding hookers in Bangkok?
Thanks,
BPII[/QUOTE]Prostitution is illegal in Thailand. Therefore it would be unwise for any member of this august board to assist you with breaking the law.
BTW, it's the "General" thread, so to me that means topics of general interest. And it seems that, generally, everybody is interested in saving money.
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1400823]Prostitution is illegal in Thailand. Therefore it would be unwise for any member of this August board to assist you with breaking the law.
BTW, it's the "General" thread, so to me that means topics of general interest. And it seems that, generally, everybody is interested in saving money.[/QUOTE]Prostitution is NOT illegal in Thailand. Pimping is illegal, so is holding a brothel or being a nuisance when publicly solliciting as a prostitute.
[QUOTE=Scorchin1470; 1400620]To look at the web sites. That is what you pay him for. He will research the same web site (s) and make a judgement on what you need.
This is a sex site not a medical site and you will be flooded with inaccurate advice and here isa bit. You don't need rabies inoculations unless you are spending along time up-country.
In 40 years of international travel I have never seen nor heard directly of rabid animals[/QUOTE]I was just interested in knowing what the other members who have visited before have done or not done.
Also, I didn't mention nor even consider rablies. Where did you come up with that?
Basically I was not going to do anything as I am not traveling far off the beaten path and I am generally careful, but I wanted to know if others knew that it was a MUST to get certain vaccines.
I will talk to my doctor again.
Thanks
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1400773]To answer your question " I wonder " What a person save on airfare can be applied towards finding hookers of any value and if cheaper they can find more and and do more?
LBM[/QUOTE]Oh, we're using Thai logic. My bad.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1400850]Prostitution is NOT illegal in Thailand. Pimping is illegal, so is holding a brothel or being a nuisance when publicly solliciting as a prostitute.[/QUOTE]I was being sarcastic. However, prostitution, the way most of it is practiced in Thailand, is illegal. Please refer to The Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act, B. E. 2539 (1996).
It provides for penalties (albeit small by today's standards) for anybody soliciting prostitution, at least in a public place. Now, the definition of "public" may be open to a bit of debate, but certainly all the girls on Pty Soi 6, or Beach Road, are in violation. Almost all the Soi 6 bars are in violation. BJ bars? Ya think? In fact, I suspect that the go-gos of BKK don't pay tea money to the local fuzz because the owners are generous, nice guys. It can certainly be argued that a go-go is an illegal business.
A lady offering her services in the privacy of your room isn't illegal. But if you discussed it on the street with her, then it is. So, while the law may not be enforced, most of what passes for prostitution in LOS these days IS illegal.
[QUOTE=Phordphan;1400971]I was being sarcastic[/QUOTE]Just to stir more bickering, that is always needed here. The nickname of the member you are responding to, suggests that he is from a country not exactly know for sense of humor. Sarcasm is then probably an alien concept there.
[QUOTE=Marcos;1400990]Just to stir more bickering, that always needed here. The nickname of the member you are responding to, suggests that he is from a country not exactly know for sense of humor. Sarcasm is then probably an alien concept there.[/QUOTE]I think you might be right. Shame some countries are serious, they miss out on a lot.
[QUOTE=Marcos;1400990]Just to stir more bickering, that is always needed here. The nickname of the member you are responding to, suggests that he is from a country not exactly know for sense of humor. Sarcasm is then probably an alien concept there.[/QUOTE]It is not. I am from Belgium and we have great stand-up comedians here and our policital scene is a world-reknowned farce.
Anyhow, unless you have followed the whole series of messages leading up to the "prostitution is illegal", you will never understand it was a sarcastic remark. It is my firm belief that humor is a good thing, but that you should never ever give wrong information unless you do it in such a way that in and by itself is clear for all it is a joke.
Remember that many of the readers of this forum do not have English as their first language and many will also not read all messages all the time.
[QUOTE=Phordphan; 1400971]I was being sarcastic. However, prostitution, the way most of it is practiced in Thailand, is illegal. Please refer to The Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act, B. E. 2539 (1996).
It provides for penalties (albeit small by today's standards) for anybody soliciting prostitution, at least in a public place. Now, the definition of "public" may be open to a bit of debate, but certainly all the girls on Pty Soi 6, or Beach Road, are in violation. Almost all the Soi 6 bars are in violation. BJ bars? Ya think? In fact, I suspect that the go-gos of BKK don't pay tea money to the local fuzz because the owners are generous, nice guys. It can certainly be argued that a go-go is an illegal business.
A lady offering her services in the privacy of your room isn't illegal. But if you discussed it on the street with her, then it is. So, while the law may not be enforced, most of what passes for prostitution in LOS these days IS illegal.[/QUOTE]On the street (the law says "in a street, public place or [b]any other place[/b]", so in theory even the privacy of your hotel room does not protect her!) , she may offer her services, provided she does not "cause nuisance to the public" or does not make that offer "in an open and shameless manner". And even if she runs afoul of these rules, it still does not make the prostitution illegal, only the way the offer was made.
You may think this is splitting hairs, but we lawyers make a living by distinguishing such subtle differences.
And I fully agree that the Soi 6 bars in Pattaya are on the wrong side of the law. Same same for the BJ bars. They are clearly in violation of Section 6 of the law ("Any person who associates with another person in a prostitution establishment for the purpose of prostitution of himself or herself or another person shall be liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding one month or to a fine not exceeding one thousand Baht or to both."). But that still does not make the act of prostitution illegal.
Whether an a-gogo club is illegal is a more difficult question. Is it a "prostitution establishment"? The definition is "a place established for prostitution or in which the prostitution is allowed, and shall include a place used for soliciting or procuring another person for prostitution". I am sure these are not places "established for prostitition" or "in which prostitution is allowed" (those are the Soi 6 type of bars). But I think they come dangerously close to being "a place used for soliciting or procuring another person for prostitution". I guess that the "barfine" trick (you pay the club some money to take the girl away before the end of her shift and the club has nothing to do with the negotiation or organisation of some extra-curricular activities) will not survive any close scrutiny.
Fortunately the Thai police is too busy with checking the drivers licences of farang motorcycle riders to bother themselves with the a-gogo clubs.
[QUOTE=Gg2002;1400945]Also, I didn't mention nor even consider rablies. Where did you come up with that?[/QUOTE]Actually a rabies vaccine will be next on my list (I already have the tetanus shots and the Hep A & B shots) and I suggest you give it some good thought.
Recently the daughter of my Thai GF was bitten by a stray dog in her village. She went to the local hospital and they gave her a full anti-rabies treatment even though there was no indication this was a rabid dog. The doctor's reasoning was as follows: there is but a small chance of the dog being infected and even less chance of it having transmitted rabies to her, but once you catch rabies it is almost always fatal if you are not treated before the onset of the symptoms. The incubation period is usually a few weeks, but in some cases symptoms appear after a few days already.
Immediate post exposure treatment (which is costly and painful) is almost 100% certain to defeat the rabies virus, but why take any chances if a vaccine is available? Don't forget Thailand is third in the world ranking of human deaths by rabies (after India and Vietnam).
I am not a doctor, so don't take my word for it. Speak to your doctor and ask his point of view.
[url]http://life.time.com/curiosities/photos-mike-the-headless-chicken-beyond-belief/[/url]#1
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1401052]Actually a rabies vaccine will be next on my list (I already have the tetanus shots and the Hep A & B shots) and I suggest you give it some good thought.
Recently the daughter of my Thai GF was bitten by a stray dog in her village. She went to the local hospital and they gave her a full anti-rabies treatment even though there was no indication this was a rabid dog. The doctor's reasoning was as follows: there is but a small chance of the dog being infected and even less chance of it having transmitted rabies to her, but once you catch rabies it is almost always fatal if you are not treated before the onset of the symptoms. The incubation period is usually a few weeks, but in some cases symptoms appear after a few days already.
Immediate post exposure treatment (which is costly and painful) is almost 100% certain to defeat the rabies virus, but why take any chances if a vaccine is available? Don't forget Thailand is third in the world ranking of human deaths by rabies (after India and Vietnam).
I am not a doctor, so don't take my word for it. Speak to your doctor and ask his point of view.[/QUOTE]If you've recieved the rabies vaccine you will still need to get shots in case you are bitten & should immediately start that process. The vaccine only decreases the number of shots you will require.
The travel clinic in Canada also recommended to me Japanese B Encephalitis & Typhoid shots in addition to those you mentioned.
[url]http://travelclinic.vch.ca[/url]
[QUOTE=Scorchin1470; 1400620]To look at the web sites. That is what you pay him for. He will research the same web site (s) and make a judgement on what you need.
This is a sex site not a medical site and you will be flooded with inaccurate advice and here isa bit. You don't need rabies inoculations unless you are spending along time up-country.
In 40 years of international travel I have never seen nor heard directly of rabid animals[/QUOTE]You are correct. That was inaccurate advice you provided.
My doctor in Canada referred me to a travel clinic since that is what they specialize in & they keep up with the latest info which is continuously changing.
For my present multi month trip to Bangkok they recommended rabies shots as well as several others I mentioned in my other post on this topic.
Around NEP in Bangkok it is not uncommon to see what appears to be stray malnourished dogs & cats that could be carrying rabies.
BTW another serious medical concern is traveller's diarrhea (TD) & the travel clinic informed me re a number of ways to tackle that, including antibiotic pills. My doctor actually gave me the wrong antibiotic (ciprofloxacin) for TD, while the travel clinic prescribed for me the correct antibiotic for TD in Thailand, which is azithromycin.
No matter where I've gone in the city it has been difficult to escape potentially disease carrying mosquitos, such as on the street, in a bar or restaurant, at MBK or a hotel room. I've recieved quite a number of bites in BKK, some even on the face, which often itch for days, with much larger swelling than bites in Canada & can make a 16 square inch area of my skin turn black for weeks.
[url]http://www.thaitravelclinic.com/blog/travel-medicine-issue/rabies-vaccine-in-southeast-asia-is-it-necessary.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1401044]On the street (the law says "in a street, public place or [b]any other place[/b]", so in theory even the privacy of your hotel room does not protect her!) , she may offer her services, provided she does not "cause nuisance to the public" or does not make that offer "in an open and shameless manner". And even if she runs afoul of these rules, it still does not make the prostitution illegal, only the way the offer was made.
You may think this is splitting hairs, but we lawyers make a living by distinguishing such subtle differences.
And I fully agree that the Soi 6 bars in Pattaya are on the wrong side of the law. Same same for the BJ bars. They are clearly in violation of Section 6 of the law ("Any person who associates with another person in a prostitution establishment for the purpose of prostitution of himself or herself or another person shall be liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding one month or to a fine not exceeding one thousand Baht or to both."). But that still does not make the act of prostitution illegal.
Whether an a-gogo club is illegal is a more difficult question. Is it a "prostitution establishment"? The definition is "a place established for prostitution or in which the prostitution is allowed, and shall include a place used for soliciting or procuring another person for prostitution". I am sure these are not places "established for prostitition" or "in which prostitution is allowed" (those are the Soi 6 type of bars). But I think they come dangerously close to being "a place used for soliciting or procuring another person for prostitution". I guess that the "barfine" trick (you pay the club some money to take the girl away before the end of her shift and the club has nothing to do with the negotiation or organisation of some extra-curricular activities) will not survive any close scrutiny.
Fortunately the Thai police is too busy with checking the drivers licences of farang motorcycle riders to bother themselves with the a-gogo clubs.[/QUOTE]Agreed.
Actually, it seems most of the cops have time to hassle motorcycle-riding farangs, because they've already been paid off by said go-go bars. :)
[QUOTE=Marcos;1400990]Just to stir more bickering, that is always needed here. The nickname of the member you are responding to, suggests that he is from a country not exactly know for sense of humor. Sarcasm is then probably an alien concept there.[/QUOTE]Actually, my somewhat snide comment was to the post by Big Poppa. I couldn't tell from whence he hails, based up on that handle. :)
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1401101]You are correct. That was inaccurate advice you provided.
No matter where I've gone in the city it has been difficult to escape potentially disease carrying mosquitos, such as on the street, in a bar or restaurant, at MBK or a hotel room. I've recieved quite a number of bites in BKK, some even on the face, which often itch for days, with much larger swelling than bites in Canada & can make a 16 square inch area of my skin turn black for weeks.
[url]http://www.thaitravelclinic.com/blog/travel-medicine-issue/rabies-vaccine-in-southeast-asia-is-it-necessary.html[/url][/QUOTE]Which bit of advice was inaccurate. After you said I was correct?
Given the serious concerns over the increasing ineffectiveness of antibiotics (it pays drug companies to find a cure for baldness rather than a cure for malaria) many doctors advise a three
Day wait (rice, bananas and fluids helps as do rehydration packs) with DandV before you use antibiotics.
Go talk to your doctor again about the bites. You have a very high reaction to bites which may indicate something more serious.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1401227]Please stop with the scare tactics.
1. Around Nana the dogs seem to be well fed. LOL. I do make wide turns around them though. If people were catching rabies from these soi dogs I'm sure they would have been eliminated a long time ago. The aggressive ladyboys scare me more than the dogs.
2. All mosq. Could be potentially carrying disease. I've been bitten by BKK mosquitoes, it itches a bit then goes away. I'd be more terriifed of catching diseases from your 500 baht streetwalker. LOL.[/QUOTE]Most of those dogs are friendly. But they do seem to be diseased with their unkempt sad looks and pus ozzing from their AH's.
I tried to feed a few some cooked beef. The ones that hang out near the skytrain stairs a block from Soi 8. They would not eat it.
I came back later and saw one of them eating dog shit.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1401052]Actually a rabies vaccine will be next on my list (I already have the tetanus shots and the Hep A & B shots) and I suggest you give it some good thought.
Recently the daughter of my Thai GF was bitten by a stray dog in her village. She went to the local hospital and they gave her a full anti-rabies treatment even though there was no indication this was a rabid dog. The doctor's reasoning was as follows: there is but a small chance of the dog being infected and even less chance of it having transmitted rabies to her, but once you catch rabies it is almost always fatal if you are not treated before the onset of the symptoms. The incubation period is usually a few weeks, but in some cases symptoms appear after a few days already.
Immediate post exposure treatment (which is costly and painful) is almost 100% certain to defeat the rabies virus, but why take any chances if a vaccine is available? Don't forget Thailand is third in the world ranking of human deaths by rabies (after India and Vietnam).
I am not a doctor, so don't take my word for it. Speak to your doctor and ask his point of view.[/QUOTE]I have to put in a correction here. I travelled to two areas where rabiës is not uncommon, Kazakhstan (dogs) and Indonesia (cats and bats) so I took the shots.
I was informed that despite these shots I would still need additional shots within 24 hours if I considered there was a risk of infection. These could be the standard vaccinations, not the anti-virus which is rarely in stock in local hospitals.
Don't think the incubation period is a few weeks: IT IS NOT. Once you contract rabiës it is always fatal, not almost always.
Kind regards,
Ko
[QUOTE=Marcos;1400595]No, it is not. And I'm not saying that because "I never got it".[/QUOTE]Then what reason can you possibly have to advise somebody that vaccinations are unneccessary?
Are you better informed than Travel Clinics?
Regards,
Ko
[QUOTE=Koperen Karel;1401442]Are you better informed than Travel Clinics?[/QUOTE]Everf thought that even in medical there are companies that have to make business? Maybe they induce the concept a vaccination is necessary (doing it, in most cases, is harmless) so they can induce the business.
[QUOTE=Gg2002; 1400593]As this is my first time visiting Thailand (Phuket and Bangkok) , I was wondering if anyone can advise me as to the need for any innoculations prior to my trip.
I asked my doctoer and he advised me to look at the CDC website which does advise to get Hep B vaccine as well as other precautions.
Do any of you do this? Is this necessary?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
No matter what season, you are going to an extreme tropical climate, in effect a jungle.
The risks are even higher in non high season with the rains. Phuket also higher.
Its based on how long you are staying, (greater than a month?) and whether it will be restricted to major cities etc. They base it on probabilities and destinations, and risk of exposure.
You really need to consult a (often an RN supervised by MD, who can order certain shots) specialist, cheapest way is the one's affiliated with hospitals (least in the USA) Regular travel clinics more pricey.
HEP A and HEP B, (or combined Twinrex) Tet / Dip / Pert, (usually partly paid for by insurance) and several insurance will not normally cover such as Typhoid the most important, and in some cases for long term expected stay they will often recommend for Thailand Jap Enc (2 very expensive shots done 30 days apart)
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1401399]Most of those dogs are friendly. But they do seem to be diseased with their unkempt sad looks and pus ozzing from their AH's.
I tried to feed a few some cooked beef. The ones that hang out near the skytrain stairs a block from Soi 8. They would not eat it.
I came back later and saw one of them eating dog shit.[/QUOTE]My god, where did you get the beef? The dogs preferred shit over the beef? Don't tell me that you eat that beef. :-))
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1401682]My god, where did you get the beef? The dogs preferred shit over the beef? Don't tell me that you eat that beef. :-))[/QUOTE]HAHA. I actually went to Mcdonalds and got half a dozen burgers. Maybe they just hate MickyD's.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1401756]HAHA. I actually went to Mcdonalds and got half a dozen burgers. Maybe they just hate MickyD's.[/QUOTE]I'm sure the Thai Soi dogs are used to more spicy fare. Next time add a side-dish of som tam. :)
[QUOTE=Scorchin1470;1401386]Which bit of advice was inaccurate. After you said I was correct?[/QUOTE]This:
"This is a sex site not a medical site and you will be flooded with inaccurate advice and here isa bit. You don't need rabies inoculations unless you are spending along time up-country."
In particular, this.
"You don't need rabies inoculations unless you are spending along time up-country."
Is, to quote you,"inaccurate advice".
The travel clinics advised rabies shots for my stay exclusively in Bangkok.
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[quote=phordphan; 1400971]i was being sarcastic. however, prostitution, the way most of it is practiced in thailand, is illegal. please refer to the prevention and suppression of prostitution act, b. e. 2539 (1996).
it provides for penalties (albeit small by today's standards) for anybody soliciting prostitution, at least in a public place. now, the definition of "public" may be open to a bit of debate, but certainly all the girls on pty soi 6, or beach road, are in violation. almost all the soi 6 bars are in violation. bj bars? ya think? in fact, i suspect that the go-gos of bkk don't pay tea money to the local fuzz because the owners are generous, nice guys. it can certainly be argued that a go-go is an illegal business.
a lady offering her services in the privacy of your room isn't illegal. but if you discussed it on the street with her, then it is. so, while the law may not be enforced, most of what passes for prostitution in los these days is illegal.[/quote]afaik being a prostitute is nowhere stated to be illegal in thai law. soliciting it publicly & shamelessly is, which imples that soliciting it discreetly in public is not illegal. being in a bar quietly speaking with a single customer over a drink is more discreet than a street girl shouting out to passersby, go with you, suck & fuck, etc.
the police raids on streetwalkers in bkk & pattaya may or may not be seen to be caused due to being in violation of such solicitation. the raids could be seen entirely as an excuse to get monies for a profession that often supplements its low salary with such things, as in bribes, tea money, etc.
if the gogos pay "tea money" to law enforement (le) officers it may not necessarily be due to any violation of thai prostitution laws. there could be a number of other reasons for such payoffs related to such things as drugs, protection, **** workers, dress or show content, taxes, etc.
the customers to the prostitutes who indirectly provide income to the police fund via the hookers & related businesses seem never hassled in los unless they dabble in the **** market.
compare that to the phillipines where it is widely reported that the p4p gals work with le in scams, such as lying that a guy raped the sex worker or took nude photos of her. not that such things could not begin occurring in siam.
if a drunk customer in bangkok was shouting out loud so the whole block could hear him, asking the streetwalkers which of them will fuck him all night for 700 baht, le might be interested in dealing with him.
"prostitution is the business or practice of providing sexual services to another person in return for payment."
it is questionable that a verbal agreement between a guy & a bar, gogo, mp or street girl for a st or lt or for an hour or overnight or to go partying or pay being "up to you" would even qualify as soliciting prostitution. especially if no specific sex services or even sex itself or a pay amount for such things is mentioned.
often i tell a sw i'll give her 1000 baht for an hour, which indicates payment for her time, not sex, so no soliciting of prostitution occurs. sometimes streetwalkers will offer potential clients walking by a massage which, if you take her up on the offer, almost always becomes quite a bit more than that back in your hotel room. again there is no solicitation involving sex.
[QUOTE=Koperen Karel; 1401442]Then what reason can you possibly have to advise somebody that vaccinations are unneccessary?
Are you better informed than Travel Clinics?
Regards,
Ko[/QUOTE]I should have not intervened, because this is another controversial topic. Anyway, ask yourself, why is that asking different doctors, and looking at the recommended (none is mandatory) vaccinations from the official travel department of different countries, for a same destination, you will get different answers.
[QUOTE=Marcos;1401964]I should have not intervened, because this is another controversial topic. Anyway, ask yourself, why is that asking different doctors, and looking at the recommended (none is mandatory) vaccinations from the official travel department of different countries, for a same destination, you will get different answers.[/QUOTE]Different answers does not mean those doctors are contradicting each other. Some are just more cautious than others and throwing the baby out with the bath water should never be a way to deal with it.
[QUOTE=Ehunter;1402072]Different answers does not mean those doctors are contradicting each other. Some are just more cautious than others and throwing the baby out with the bath water should never be a way to deal with it.[/QUOTE]Ehunter I understand what your are saying but the question here is simple: A man goes to Thailand for 1 week staying in hotels and such, will have some protected sex, does he needs vaccionation yes or no? My opinion (for what it's worth) , no.
[QUOTE=Marcos;1402093]Ehunter I understand what your are saying but the question here is simple: A man goes to Thailand for 1 week staying in hotels and such, will have some protected sex, does he needs vaccionation yes or no? My opinion (for what it's worth) , no.[/QUOTE]The Hepatitis A virus can be found everywhere there are unsanitary conditions, which means --indeed-- everywhere. An Hep A vaccination is something all should take, even when staying at home. Then again, Hep A has a low mortality (about 3 per 1000).
Hepatitis B is transmitted through blood or semen or other bodily fluids, so you should generally be safe when practicing safe sex. On the other hand, the effects are rather bad if you catch it: liver cancer, chronic liver diseases, cyrrhosis, .
[QUOTE=Marcos;1402093]Ehunter I understand what your are saying but the question here is simple: A man goes to Thailand for 1 week staying in hotels and such, will have some protected sex, does he needs vaccionation yes or no? My opinion (for what it's worth) , no.[/QUOTE]Ask a doctor. And for my money take the most conservative device.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1402124]The Hepatitis A virus can be found everywhere there are unsanitary conditions, which means.indeed- everywhere. An Hep A vaccination is something all should take, even when staying at home. Then again, Hep A has a low mortality (about 3 per 1000).
Hepatitis B is transmitted through blood or semen or other bodily fluids, so you should generally be safe when practicing safe sex. On the other hand, the effects are rather bad if you catch it: liver cancer, chronic liver diseases, cyrrhosis, .[/QUOTE]Ok great but the question again, vaccine yes or not? Because life is about simple decisions.
[QUOTE=Marcos;1402093]Ehunter I understand what your are saying but the question here is simple: A man goes to Thailand for 1 week staying in hotels and such, will have some protected sex, does he needs vaccionation yes or no? My opinion (for what it's worth) , no.[/QUOTE]Its a valid question.
However, most will find that vaccinations of some type (the actual quantity and precise recommended types subject to a number of variables) are generally the norm when for example one is arriving from the USA, (perhaps the same in Europe, Australia and elsewhere) , and (as a minor point) its exactly why in the movie Hangover Part 2 they were able to build a joke around this very fact.
[quote=pinkpearl;1401886]compare that to the phillipines where it is widely reported that the p4p gals work with le in scams, such as lying that a guy raped the sex worker or took nude photos of her. not that such things could not begin occurring in siam.[/quote]lol, that's why i had to laugh when "aebolit" said he was first headed to manila to work his "gorgeous, young 18 to 23 year old, passionate, model types in quantity" strategy. among other things, bribing procurers to find such numerous beauties would no doubt be required when one had little if any time, but in the phils generating too much attention is very high risk. plus good luck if you ever mistake a 17 year old for an 18 year old, as merely being in the same hotel room is enough to prosecute over there. however a (especially a younger) guy who wanted to find one such outstanding gfe beauty in manila, if he was careful, watched every move, and took his time, its not a bad place, in part because a typical outsider is often viewed as a ticket out.
[QUOTE=Marcos;1402093]Ehunter I understand what your are saying but the question here is simple: A man goes to Thailand for 1 week staying in hotels and such, will have some protected sex, does he needs vaccionation yes or no? My opinion (for what it's worth) , no.[/QUOTE]I agree.
People should get vaccines, etc, just because. No matter where they are or live. But not just because they are coming to Thailand.
I am really getting sick of SoCal. More and more I am getting the stinky pussy from these providers.
Yesterday I almost vomitted from the stink. The entire room smelled. Not that it matters, but these girls are attractive an not cheap.
It is mostly the white providers. After you fuck them, they put on their pants. No shower.
The Latinas and Blacks are almost as bad with their smell. I am sick of it.
As in Thailand or SEA from my experience, the Asian providers here take showers before and after. Of course most of them are here on work Visas. There are a few exceptions, but 99% of the time the pussy I get in Thailand is clean and does not stink. And 99% of the girls shower before and after. SW's included.
So I am looking forward to my trip in about a week. Until then, I think I will just wack off.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1402193]SNIP.
As in Thailand or SEA from my experience, the Asian providers here take showers before and after. Of course most of them are here on work Visas. There are a few exceptions, but 99% of the time the pussy I get in Thailand is clean and does not stink. And 99% of the girls shower before and after. SW's included.
So I am looking forward to my trip in about a week. Until then, I think I will just wack off.[/QUOTE]I've been living in LOS for 7 years now. I was surfing the USA sex guide site looking at pics of providers the other day, just looking. For a 1 week period over 1000 pics posted (many repeats though). I only saw a very few that I would do and I'm not so fussy as some on this board. I am SO glad I'm not limited to those choices.
[QUOTE=Western787;1402178]LOL, that's why I had to laugh when "Aebolit" said he was first headed to Manila to work his "gorgeous, young 18 to 23 year old, passionate, model types in quantity" strategy. Among other things, bribing procurers to find such numerous beauties would no doubt be required when one had little if any time, but in the Phils generating too much attention is very high risk. Plus good luck if you ever mistake a 17 year old for an 18 year old, as merely being in the same hotel room is enough to prosecute over there. However a (especially a younger) guy who wanted to find ONE such outstanding GFE beauty in Manila, if he was careful, watched every move, and took his time, its not a bad place, in part because a typical outsider is often viewed as a ticket out.[/QUOTE]These are valid points.
I've read a report alleging that in Thailand LE have to catch the guy in the physical act with the "mistaken" lady you refer to, unlike in the PI where it is as you stated.
In Thailand you don't have to pay a bar, gogo, MP or SW girl for sex. After the deed is done you can secretly slip some paper in her bag with money for sex (prostitution) never even being mentioned. Who's to say you weren't paying her for her time whether a short time or a long time, or to leave, or you're just a generous guy, etc? Or you hand her a number of baht before she leaves for taxi, to eat, shopping, baby, bills or whatever, anything but banging her. Who can prove it was for anything else, even if a hidden police audio video device recorded their entire time together?
I have yet to pay for sex in Siam. It's always been free. Isn't that why it's called LOS.
[QUOTE=Marcos;1402093]Ehunter I understand what your are saying but the question here is simple: A man goes to Thailand for 1 week staying in hotels and such, will have some protected sex, does he needs vaccionation yes or no? My opinion (for what it's worth) , no.[/QUOTE]So there you are in Thailand. In your hotel needing to go out and find a girl. You round the corner and don't see the dogs tail poking out from under whatever and you step on it. The dog instinctively, like lightning, swerves around and bites you, then the scared sick-looking thing with all his ribs showing goes hauling off so you can't see or track him. What ya going to do? Rumor is dogs like this prefer to eat shit over cooked beef.
Then you leave for dinner for some sit down place because you don't want to get sick from some street vendors food. The place you eat at looks clean though the one of staff is unknowingly sick with Hep A, contaminates your food, and you don't discover anything wrong until months later. You realize you don't have any energy anymore and go in for a checkup.
How about a condom breaking when back dooring some girl and neither you or the girl notice it right off?
All these are things you should worry about. I say you should get every vaccination that is out there even if you were mongering at home. It is the most responsible thing any monger should do to protect himself. Not doing it I think is just plain silly.
I did Hep A and B about 15 years ago. I have been thinking about getting retested for the antibodies after such a long time.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1402193]I am really getting sick of SoCal. More and more I am getting the stinky pussy from these providers.
Yesterday I almost vomitted from the stink. The entire room smelled. Not that it matters, but these girls are attractive an not cheap.
It is mostly the white providers. After you fuck them, they put on their pants. No shower.
The Latinas and Blacks are almost as bad with their smell. I am sick of it.
As in Thailand or SEA from my experience, the Asian providers here take showers before and after. Of course most of them are here on work Visas. There are a few exceptions, but 99% of the time the pussy I get in Thailand is clean and does not stink. And 99% of the girls shower before and after. SW's included.
So I am looking forward to my trip in about a week. Until then, I think I will just wack off.[/QUOTE]Hahhaahaha! Am SoCal bred. Did many many co-ed's for free during me UCLA days. Have NEVER done P4P in SoCal. Yet. AND NEVER WILL after your FR Sir!
[QUOTE=Marcos;1402158]Ok great but the question again, vaccine yes or not?[/QUOTE]Of all the various travel vaccinations you can get, the Hep ones are the basic foundation (IMO).
Along with Mosquito Bite prevention, you certainly can't go wrong with those at least.
Once travelling in more remote regions, or ones with specific issues, you can expand beyond that foundation.
One of my Indonesian friends got Hepatitis once, travelling (probably from drinking untreated water).
He never bothered with any kind of travel vaccinations. Yellow Skin & Eyeballs & Major Weight Loss. Nasty!
These poor souls didn't even get to wet their wistle.
[url]http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/28/health/oklahoma-dental-warning/index.html?hpt=hp_t2[/url]
For those who want to know. If you are born and bred in the West, US, Canada and 1st world countries it is best to get the recommended vaccinations as you have never been exposed to the germs of SE Asia. However, Hepatitis is always recommended for all.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1404358]For those who want to know. If you are born and bred in the West, US, Canada and 1st world countries it is best to get the recommended vaccinations as you have never been exposed to the germs of SE Asia. However, Hepatitis is always recommended for all.[/QUOTE]Unless you area qualified medical doctor with expertise in tropical medicine I suggest you do what all the sensible people do . Go see a doctor with experience in tropical medicine. At least their advice is backed by proper technical input.
What is more your advice is not based on medical fact. Irrespective of where you are born you do not have immunity from "the germs of SE Asia" for which inoculations are required / recommended.
[QUOTE=Scorchin1470;1404380].What is more your advice is not based on medical fact. Irrespective of where you are born you do not have immunity from "the germs of SE Asia" for which inoculations are required / recommended.[/QUOTE]Yes, it is based on a medical fact. Go research it. US is so sanitized that the people from there are very susceptible to the diseases of an new place. What do you think happened to the native folks when the Europeans colonized the Americas.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1404737]Yes, it is based on a medical fact. Go research it. US is so sanitized that the people from there are very susceptible to the diseases of an new place. What do you think happened to the native folks when the Europeans colonized the Americas.[/QUOTE]Between problems caused by lack of immunity to local germs which cause D and V and diseases that all get irrespective of where they live / come from- eg hepatitis. Malaria.
Your example is irrelevant and has nothing to the with locally built up bacterial disease resistance.
But then you are not a doctor and any non-medic who states 'facts' is usually relying on Wikapedia, which is usually written by the ignorant for the less ignorant.
Here I thought the generous colonizers gave them prime land and the right to build casinos on it. Guess I need to review my USA histiory.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1402193]I am really getting sick of SoCal. More and more I am getting the stinky pussy from these providers.
Yesterday I almost vomitted from the stink. The entire room smelled. Not that it matters, but these girls are attractive an not cheap.
It is mostly the white providers. After you fuck them, they put on their pants. No shower.
The Latinas and Blacks are almost as bad with their smell. I am sick of it.
As in Thailand or SEA from my experience, the Asian providers here take showers before and after. Of course most of them are here on work Visas. There are a few exceptions, but 99% of the time the pussy I get in Thailand is clean and does not stink. And 99% of the girls shower before and after. SW's included.
So I am looking forward to my trip in about a week. Until then, I think I will just wack off.[/QUOTE]LOL. Why not conserve your money shots until you arrive in LOS. Hahahahahhaaha
Hilarious. I thought the OC had plenty of Vietnamese sexy massage girls? LOL
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1404930]LOL. Why not conserve your money shots until you arrive in LOS. Hahahahahhaaha
Hilarious. I thought the OC had plenty of Vietnamese sexy massage girls? LOL[/QUOTE]Specifically GARDEN GROVE. Little Hanoi in OC!