Bogota Reports

Thanks guys, I have decided on Medellin now. It's the best balance in terms of connectivity with my flight route, prices seem lower than Bogota, yet no cash issues as in Venezuela, and many Venezuelanas there anyway. The offers on photoprepagos is a little less than Bogota, but enough to warm my bed at night and take care of the morning urges. Ah, it will be nice to sleep between two warm soft young chicas And finally the clubs, Fase Dos and Luna Lunera seem just two nice options that aren't all too expensive. So I will get to binge as I planned. Happy.

Some of the girls here (on photoprepagos) describe themselves as pubis depilado. Does that mean shaved or lasered? Or can it mean either?

Also, oral service is sometimes described as oral natural and sometimes as oral completo. Does completo mean without condom AND to completion?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Alliwantislove;2049919]Some of the girls here (on photoprepagos) describe themselves as pubis depilado. Does that mean shaved or lasered? Or can it mean either?

Also, oral service is sometimes described as oral natural and sometimes as oral completo. Does completo mean without condom AND to completion?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Have you considered just asking them? Also there are _much_ better ways to meet hookers in Colombia. The backpages are really a last resort.

[QUOTE=Alliwantislove;2049919]Some of the girls here (on photoprepagos) describe themselves as pubis depilado. Does that mean shaved or lasered? Or can it mean either?

Also, oral service is sometimes described as oral natural and sometimes as oral completo. Does completo mean without condom AND to completion?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]It means they are hairless. It doesn't indicate how they got that way. However, I doubt if many of them are spending money on laser hair removal.

Oral natural is without a condom. Oral completo means until orgasm. Unless the ad also states oral natural, it's most likely with condom.

Some of them are open to negotiation, for a price.

[QUOTE=StripperMan;2049682]Wow! Left her on the street in bra & panties only! Sorry to hear about the novia's father. I located the Salitre district on Google Maps, and it does not look more south of where I would be stying in the Chapinero district.

My plan would be to split time between doing escorts, and going out to the night clubs like Pussy House, Las Divas & La 49. Of course I would check out the exclusive clubs in the North Zone, and also safely thru taxi's & uber, check out some select clubs in the Santa Fe district. But those trips outside Chapinero I expect to comprise very little of my time. I would pretty much be staying in Chapinero near Calle 60 & Carrera 13 the entire time. I drink, but never get overly drunk. I know how to walk with a purpose, walk with head on a swivel, and I never flash bling. In fact I dress down and use cheap phones & watches.

From what I gather, the danger levels in Bogota are similar to what it was like in New York City in the 70's & 80's. Too many people, and too few police with slow response times. Citizens who are very aware that a mugging can happen anywhere at anytime of day.

How safe will Chapinero be? I'd like to believe that I could walk from Pussy House the 4-500 meters to my hotel or condo at 3 am. Probably not a good idea though??[/QUOTE]Although I have been to Pussyhouse, Laylos, and Santa Fe and a few others, I really don't frequent those places anymore. I pretty much just hang with my girl the entire time I'm in Colombia nowadays. BUT. Walking even a block from Pussyhouse at 3 am alone is just asking for trouble. Find one or two taxi guys you trust or Uber and have them pick you up. The problem is that even if your not drunk or only wear cheap watches to minimize your losses, does not account for some of these street guys who shoot first and don't even bother to tell you to hand over your shit. Nothing can ruin a trip faster then being stabbed or shot in the street. Stay safe.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2050147]Although I have been to Pussyhouse, Laylos, and Santa Fe and a few others, I really don't frequent those places anymore. I pretty much just hang with my girl the entire time I'm in Colombia nowadays. BUT. Walking even a block from Pussyhouse at 3 am alone is just asking for trouble. Find one or two taxi guys you trust or Uber and have them pick you up. The problem is that even if your not drunk or only wear cheap watches to minimize your losses, does not account for some of these street guys who shoot first and don't even bother to tell you to hand over your shit. Nothing can ruin a trip faster then being stabbed or shot in the street. Stay safe.[/QUOTE]Good advice. Walking anywhere at 3 am, especially after drinking is a bad idea.

My addition to the advice is to move to a hotel about 20 blocks north, just north of zona rosa. The hotels are nicer, without being too expensive, plenty of shopping and restaurants nearby and you're only a $2 taxi ride from Chapinero.

I was at CC Andino yesterday and right now it's the safest place in Bogota. Police are everywhere, inside and out. There are also a lot more police than normal throughout the area.

[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2049696]I am planning for a few days in Colombia or Venezuela. Coming from Brazil and Panama. I would like to do some binging of strip clubs and TLN company, ideally with a pair. I need to decide which town. Bogota, Medellin or Caracas (VE) or a combination thereof. I want to have lots of action and look for a nice price point where a failure doesn't ruin the time and I can quickly next a dead fish without loosing precious time and not too much money. The rates in Panama annoy me. I want girls who put in some enthusiasm. CBJ is a total bummer, it must be BBBJ all the way, I don't want to see whining and lame performance.

Even though I gather Caracas chicas are cheaper and more eager to please, I got the advice to perhaps not do Venezuela because of the money exchange problems. But I don't want to end up with bad service for rip off.

So, in Bogota, which club (s) should I choose if I have one night an want to get it right the first time? I am thinking of La 49 (expensive but posh and in decent neighborhood). Pussy House is open again as I read on a Spanish forum. I know of La Piscina, Troya, Las Vegas in the Zona de Tolerancia. Chicas Milenio just got a bad review a few posts up. Which of the clubs has the best most enthusiastic talent and the best bang for the buck? Which hotel might have semi-pros right in the lobby? Is there still 1 am curfew where one can pick up a couple of chicas for the rest of the night somewhere close to my hotel?

I am quite confused by the prices. It seems to me that they are now all pushing to the USD 100 mark, which I hate. I hate how expensive Panama is. I cannot believe that Colombia where people are so much poorer than in Brazil ends up being more costly than Brazil.[/QUOTE]Hey brother,

Having been to Panama City and Bogota recently and planning a return trip to Bogota and Medellin (which I've only visited 2 or 3 times many years ago), I offer this advice. If you back out one level to the Colombia Forum, which lists the different cities, and scroll below the line to the User Blog area, you will see the Bogota FAQ and Medellin Lists. These will give you what you need in therms of planning your trip, especially prices. In the Zona Tolerencia (Santa Fe) area in Bogota, you can easily score a few great girls at about $25-30/30 min. A bit more for 30-40 min at one of the clinicas (massage parlors) in Zona Rosa or the Mezzanines. In comparison, I counted 20 casas in downtown Medellin within a 4 block radius where hot Paisas can be had for $15-45/30-60 min. So, not wanting to deprive either city's ladies of my seed, I chose to split my trip with Medellin getting an extra day. Hoping to enjoy some laid back drinking and dining with a gorgeous semi pro from Tinder or ColombianCupid during my nights and I think that will make for a great overall experience. Don't go to Venezuela. It's like Beirut in the 80's without rockets and missiles. Very dangerous! The Venezolanas are everywhere--Medellin, Bogota, Panama, Miami. If you want them, you'll run into them. Prices in Panama are ridiculous. Chicks are starting at $500 for all nighters and MANY of our brethren are paying it and encouraging this madness. You're getting a deal (according to the market there) if you get a girl for $100 for a couple of hours. DR is also in play, but, well, DR is no longer the easy pickings it used to be. Girls are raising their prices and lowering their performance somewhat (at least in Sosua). So, there you have it! Good luck and feel free to PM!

Thank you for the safety advice on Chapinero at night. I will definitely not be walking back to my pad after a night of drinking, no matter how short the distance. I also like the idea of stating in an even safer area more north of Chapinero.

[QUOTE=StripperMan;2050781]Thank you for the safety advice on Chapinero at night. I will definitely not be walking back to my pad after a night of drinking, no matter how short the distance. I also like the idea of stating in an even safer area more north of Chapinero.[/QUOTE]Love motels area of Chapinero (west of Transmilenio) is more dangerous, than east of Transmilenio (Pussyhouse area) which s more or less OK.

Hey guys,

I've been in Bogota for about 10 months now. Loving the city and everything it has to offer. I've mostly been dating chicas from tinder and girls I meet through my day to day activities. I've been to pussy-house and some random casas a few times but I'm looking to find some 9's and 10's to play with! I'm mid 30's, take care of myself, well travelled, and like to drink (but not to excess). If anyone is around for a fun night out, let me know!

Announcement – Pussy House in Chapinero is still open! I went on Friday night and it was great. I asked some of the staff about it being closed and they said they had festivals for 4 out of 6 weeks and were closed on some odd days. I think that's where the confusion arose. Anyway.

This was my third of fourth trip to Bogota, but only the second during which I actively mongered. Some initial observations on the city relative to Medelllin, Baranquilla, and Cali:

§ It's huge! – 8 Million people.

§ Items overall seem to be a little bit more expensive.

§ There was a light drizzle for a portion of nearly every day. This has been a theme for every trip over the years with two being in June and one in May.

§ Uber works well, even better than taxis as half the taxis would get lost. If getting a taxi I suggest the yellow ones as they are metered and tend to be cheaper. The white ones are bigger, but charge their own varying rates.

I stayed at the Four Points Sheraton in the north. The taxi, which I believe was metered although I didn't see it, was 32,000 pesos. Overall the hotel was a decent deal at $85 as it had a very nice free breakfast, small pool, gym, and solid WiFi. The staff was helpful and they were reasonably girl friendly.

As noted by previous posters, Parque 93 is a nicer area and a great home base. It is not as vibrant as Parque Lleras in Medellin, but it gets the job done. There is certainly a lot of money in the area as I regularly saw Mercedes, BMWs, and Audis. And when you factor in the higher cost here and lower average wage those folks are several strata above others! The restaurants in the area were ok. Nothing special. If you're looking for a regular, fun crowd, Bogota Beer Company was always hoping and Juan Valdez (coffee) always had some cuties there to chat with or work next too.

Ok, on the clubs and girls. I really only had three nights and two days as I was coming from Medellin and had business meetings, so my apologies for the brevity!

En El Norte.

Norte Clubs – Thursday night.

§ Lido's Strip Club (Carrera 14 #95-33): My experience was in-line with others with 30+ girls. I did not see any dancing and the girls mostly lounged around on couches. It is a cavernous place with high ceilings. I felt a bit uncomfortable as it was fairly bright and girls just stared at me as I walked in (only 5 other girls there at the time). The girls looked like they had nice bodies, many enhanced, but looking at their faces you could tell they were more hardened. Prices: No entry fee. I understand it was a 150 k room fee and was told chicas start around 300,000. I understand they start at the high amount because they must pay 100 k every night to the club, and most have expensive cab rides from south Bogota. I did not like the feel of the place and only spent around 15 minutes there.

§ Lalo's High Class Inn (Carrera 15 #88-33). This place was smaller and a little bit darker, but still ample light. There was a bar to the front right as you walk in and then 20-25 girls. Better looking than Lido's in my opinion. The manager started talking to me immediately in good English which set off my 'watch out' sense. Prices: No entry fee, beer was 45,000+ tax (he said $22 USD total), a bottle to share with girl started at 260,000 (100), room for girl was $72, and then you negotiate with her (guessing 200 k-400 k). In short, a fucking rip-off. I asked the guy if had ever been to Spearmint Rhino (best strip club in Las Vegas) and joked that his beer prices were higher than theirs! This place was more comfortable, but the girls were not worth anywhere near what asking and I left after 15 minutes or so.

§ Bar Juan Pablo Zhivago (Carrera 18 # 93-56). This place was just down the street from my hotel, and actually at #93-56, not #93-46 on the map. As always, props to WorldTraveller69 for keeping those up to date. There were 12-15 girls and they all introduced themselves. Prices: Beer was 24 k, girls were 150 k in house or take out fee and were happy to leave for 200-300 k. I liked the feel of the place here more, but talent was a bit down from Lalo's.

Chapinero – Friday Night.

§ Pussy's House (Calle 61 #13-64). I enjoyed this place during a past stay in Chapinero. There were 30-40 girls throughout the night of varying shapes, sizes and colors. They were more natural girls and they seemed younger to me. At any given time there would be 4 girls dancing and you could sit right by the stage tipping them 2 k so the price was right. They also seemed happy to be there and flirted a lot with the crowd. Prices: Water 5 k, beer 6 k, beer for girl 16 k (in lounge area), bottle service started at 80 k. I understand takeout is 120 k to the club, but I found many girls that were willing to either leave with me at 3 am when it closed (so no exit fee) or sneak out earlier after they'the made some money dancing. I ended up with a beautiful and great performer for 200 k who met me around the corner from the club at 1:30 am. She stayed until 5:30 am and only left then because her phone was dying (or at least that's what she said ha ha).

Saturday. Day Time Massage in El Norte.

§ Mezzanine 13 (Av. Carrera 15 #104-03). This is on a corner and looks like a strip mall. Go up the stairs to the second floor and go around the back. You will find 4 extremely small massage / brothels, each with 5 to 9 girls. The cheapest is nearest ( 70 k for short time full sex) and the far one is more expensive ( 120 k for short time full sex). I looked at all 4 and there was no correlation between price and attractiveness of the girls although the girls in the last brothel were more dressed up (oddly in some sort of gothic way). I picked a younger girl in the second shop for 80 k (tipped her 10-15 k). The rooms consist of a massage table that is all of 5 ½ feet. I'm 6 foot and my feet were over the edge. The rooms are incredibly small (6. 5 ft x 4. 5 ft maybe) and the walls were very thin (you could hear everyone else! My shoulders literally brushed both walls of the hallway as I waked to our room. Not for everyone, but I got a full massage and full sex out of it for cheap with a 19 yr o.

Closing Thoughts.

§ Bogota is only really worth it if you're looking for up market girls and restaurants. Otherwise Medellin is preferred for multiple reasons.

§ Bogota had more availability on Mileroticos and other sites, but often girls were quite far away.

§ Bogota also has many more people with money (numerous high end cars), thus the higher end attractive girls can find Colombian boyfriends much more easily than Medellin or other cities. This means they do not need to go after expats like us for money. I also met a couple girls that mentioned they had regular boyfriends who were married, not uncommon in Colombia at all.

§ Definitely pack longer sleeves, a light jacket, and an umbrella. At night it got down to the upper 50's (cold for June) and it rained all 3 days I was there.

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Today I decided to check out Santa Fe. Few things I learnt, there are plenty of choices next to and in the same block as Paisas and many of them don't open till 5:00. The area looks dangerous, though I found it poor not dangerous. If you don't drift too far south, you will be fine. Try to blend in, and don't flash anything. These are common precautions that apply everywhere not just Colombia. There are plenty of policemen on vans, on walk and on motorbikes. They stop people randomly and ask for cedula so always carry an Identification even if you are gringo. Yes I was asked for cedula too. I walked the whole area in daylight and even after sundown till 9:00 and didn't feel threatened or witnessed any unfortunate event.

[QUOTE=EightyEightmMph;2052106]Hey guys,

I've been in Bogota for about 10 months now. Loving the city and everything it has to offer. I've mostly been dating chicas from tinder and girls I meet through my day to day activities. I've been to pussy-house and some random casas a few times but I'm looking to find some 9's and 10's to play with! I'm mid 30's, take care of myself, well travelled, and like to drink (but not to excess). If anyone is around for a fun night out, let me know![/QUOTE]I will be Bogota for about a week starting June 30th. We could meet and go looking for 9's and 10's. I have been to Colombia many times. But mostly to Medellin. This is my first time to Bogota.

So I was supposed to go to Bogota 16-21 June so I could be at the reverse GB. But plans got derailed. I am heading this Thursday night until Saturday night. Looking to get an Airbnb. My question is the best place to exchange dollars. I am flying out of DFW. I saw some escorts price in pesos and dollars, and the dollar rate was higher. Will be sure to post pics and video.

Thanks for the report Chicago85. Nice details of girl numbers & pricing! Glad to hear Pussy House is open. Others have described the place as a sausage fest. Did you notice any issues with too many guys monopolizing the girls time, or simply space issues walking around the club?

[QUOTE=Bolongo;2052760] My question is the best place to exchange dollars. I am flying out of DFW. I saw some escorts price in pesos and dollars, and the dollar rate was higher. [/QUOTE]I would like to know the best places to exchange money also. Please do tell.

Thanks for the report. I am still deciding on the best place to stay. I am looking to start with girls from [URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/bogota[/URL].

And maybe a few agencies and then go from there.

As far as the weather, it is their rainy season and opposite season from the US.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2052566]Announcement Pussy House in Chapinero is still open! I went on Friday night and it was great. I asked some of the staff about it being closed and they said they had festivals for 4 out of 6 weeks and were closed on some odd days. I think that's where the confusion arose. Anyway.

This was my third of fourth trip to Bogota, but only the second during which I actively mongered. Some initial observations on the city relative to Medelllin, Baranquilla, and Cali:

It's huge! 8 Million people.

Items overall seem to be a little bit more expensive.

There was a light drizzle for a portion of nearly every day. This has been a theme for every trip over the years with two being in June and one in May.

Uber works well, even better than taxis as half the taxis would get lost. If getting a taxi I suggest the yellow ones as they are metered and tend to be cheaper. The white ones are bigger, but charge their own varying rates.

I stayed at the Four Points Sheraton in the north. The taxi, which I believe was metered although I didn't see it, was 32,000 pesos. Overall the hotel was a decent deal at $85 as it had a very nice free breakfast, small pool, gym, and solid WiFi. The staff was helpful and they were reasonably girl friendly.

As noted by previous posters, Parque 93 is a nicer area and a great home base. It is not as vibrant as Parque Lleras in Medellin, but it gets the job done. There is certainly a lot of money in the area as I regularly saw Mercedes, BMWs, and Audis. And when you factor in the higher cost here and lower average wage those folks are several strata above others! The restaurants in the area were ok. Nothing special. If you're looking for a regular, fun crowd, Bogota Beer Company was always hoping and Juan Valdez (coffee) always had some cuties there to chat with or work next too.

Ok, on the clubs and girls. I really only had three nights and two days as I was coming from Medellin and had business meetings, so my apologies for the brevity!

En El Norte.

Norte Clubs Thursday night.

Lido's Strip Club (Carrera 14 #95-33): My experience was in-line with others with 30+ girls. I did not see any dancing and the girls mostly lounged around on couches. It is a cavernous place with high ceilings. I felt a bit uncomfortable as it was fairly bright and girls just stared at me as I walked in (only 5 other girls there at the time). The girls looked like they had nice bodies, many enhanced, but looking at their faces you could tell they were more hardened. Prices: No entry fee. I understand it was a 150 k room fee and was told chicas start around 300,000. I understand they start at the high amount because they must pay 100 k every night to the club, and most have expensive cab rides from south Bogota. I did not like the feel of the place and only spent around 15 minutes there.

Lalo's High Class Inn (Carrera 15 #88-33). This place was smaller and a little bit darker, but still ample light. There was a bar to the front right as you walk in and then 20-25 girls. Better looking than Lido's in my opinion. The manager started talking to me immediately in good English which set off my 'watch out' sense. Prices: No entry fee, beer was 45,000+ tax (he said $22 USD total), a bottle to share with girl started at 260,000 (100), room for girl was $72, and then you negotiate with her (guessing 200 k-400 k). In short, a fucking rip-off. I asked the guy if had ever been to Spearmint Rhino (best strip club in Las Vegas) and joked that his beer prices were higher than theirs! This place was more comfortable, but the girls were not worth anywhere near what asking and I left after 15 minutes or so.

Bar Juan Pablo Zhivago (Carrera 18 # 93-56). This place was just down the street from my hotel, and actually at #93-56, not #93-46 on the map. As always, props to WorldTraveller69 for keeping those up to date. There were 12-15 girls and they all introduced themselves. Prices: Beer was 24 k, girls were 150 k in house or take out fee and were happy to leave for 200-300 k. I liked the feel of the place here more, but talent was a bit down from Lalo's.

Chapinero Friday Night.

Pussy's House (Calle 61 #13-64). I enjoyed this place during a past stay in Chapinero. There were 30-40 girls throughout the night of varying shapes, sizes and colors. They were more natural girls and they seemed younger to me. At any given time there would be 4 girls dancing and you could sit right by the stage tipping them 2 k so the price was right. They also seemed happy to be there and flirted a lot with the crowd. Prices: Water 5 k, beer 6 k, beer for girl 16 k (in lounge area), bottle service started at 80 k. I understand takeout is 120 k to the club, but I found many girls that were willing to either leave with me at 3 am when it closed (so no exit fee) or sneak out earlier after they'the made some money dancing. I ended up with a beautiful and great performer for 200 k who met me around the corner from the club at 1:30 am. She stayed until 5:30 am and only left then because her phone was dying (or at least that's what she said ha ha).

Saturday. Day Time Massage in El Norte.

Mezzanine 13 (Av. Carrera 15 #104-03). This is on a corner and looks like a strip mall. Go up the stairs to the second floor and go around the back. You will find 4 extremely small massage / brothels, each with 5 to 9 girls. The cheapest is nearest ( 70 k for short time full sex) and the far one is more expensive ( 120 k for short time full sex). I looked at all 4 and there was no correlation between price and attractiveness of the girls although the girls in the last brothel were more dressed up (oddly in some sort of gothic way). I picked a younger girl in the second shop for 80 k (tipped her 10-15 k). The rooms consist of a massage table that is all of 5 feet. I'm 6 foot and my feet were over the edge. The rooms are incredibly small (6. 5 ft x 4. 5 ft maybe) and the walls were very thin (you could hear everyone else! My shoulders literally brushed both walls of the hallway as I waked to our room. Not for everyone, but I got a full massage and full sex out of it for cheap with a 19 yr o.

Closing Thoughts.

Bogota is only really worth it if you're looking for up market girls and restaurants. Otherwise Medellin is preferred for multiple reasons.

Bogota had more availability on Mileroticos and other sites, but often girls were quite far away.

Bogota also has many more people with money (numerous high end cars), thus the higher end attractive girls can find Colombian boyfriends much more easily than Medellin or other cities. This means they do not need to go after expats like us for money. I also met a couple girls that mentioned they had regular boyfriends who were married, not uncommon in Colombia at all.

Definitely pack longer sleeves, a light jacket, and an umbrella. At night it got down to the upper 50's (cold for June) and it rained all 3 days I was there.

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[QUOTE=Bolongo;2052883]Thanks for the report. I am still deciding on the best place to stay. I am looking to start with girls from [URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/bogota[/URL].

And maybe a few agencies and then go from there.

As far as the weather, it is their rainy season and opposite season from the US.[/QUOTE]Rainy season, yes. Opposite season from the US, no. Buenos Aires, Santiago and Rio are all opposite seasons from the US, as they are south of the equator. Except for Leticia, all the cities in Colombia are north of the equator.

Bogota has 4 seasons. 2 of them are cool and rainy and 2 of them are a little warmer and not rainy. Bring a jacket.

The best place to exchange money is to not exchange money. Depending on your bank foreign ATM charges, it is usually a better deal to just bring a little emergency cash and use the ATM. Davivienda allows up to 720,000 pesos per withdrawal with the service charge. Servibanca and Citibank allow higher amounts but both have a service fee.

If you must bring cash, most malls have a currency exchange place.

Well my work has begun for my trip in August. I currently have just over 50 chicas on my Favorites list on [URL]photosprepagos.com[/URL], and tonight I started contacting some of them thru Whattsapp. It feels great! Although all my favoritas list services that I have filtered for like BBBJ, etc. I'll be screening them thru our conversations to verify those services & pricing, and then try to get this list down to a more manageable 15-20. Any tips you guys might have are greatly appreciated.

I'm noticing that many chicas are saying very early in our conversations that they will go to my condo or hotel. I was under the impression that 90%'of these girls require you to go to their place, especially on the first hookup. It could be just the small sample that I have contacted happens to be in the "outcall" group, but who knows? As well, I wonder if its better for me that I go to their place. Maybe that gives me more control.

[QUOTE=StripperMan;2052773]I would like to know the best places to exchange money also. Please do tell.[/QUOTE]It's not a good idea to come with all the cash money to Colombia and exchange it. I even didn't know that people still do this as in the old days when ATM didn't exist, therefore I didn't' mention it in the FAQ. First reason is safety, just get from an ATM the cash you need for the day. Second reason is that exchange rate in casas de cambio in Colombia are not favorable, best rate is through ATM. Reason is that due to narco history there is a lot of cash dollar in Colombia that need to get in the official circuit again through casas de cambio. Cash dollar is therefore under evaluated in Colombia.

[QUOTE=StripperMan;2052771]Thanks for the report Chicago85. Nice details of girl numbers & pricing! Glad to hear Pussy House is open. Others have described the place as a sausage fest. Did you notice any issues with too many guys monopolizing the girls time, or simply space issues walking around the club?[/QUOTE]Sorry for the delay, I don't sign in much. There were a number of guys, but it died down after 11 or so when they headed home. I imagine that if you hit it on pay day (every other Wednesday or Thursday in Colombia) it could be quite packed with guys. It was a bit of pain being solo and not having a guy to split a table (bottle service required) with. I guess I could have just paid for a bottle myself, but it didn't seem worth it at the time. If you look Western and make yourself appear interested the girls will come to you.

Got into Bogata around 1130 pm Thursday. My airbnb host picked me up. Great spot. Every girl marvelled at the views. PM me for details. Got settled it was about 1245 before I jumped in Uber.

Went to Tronos, nothing. Not sure if it is closed or just not open on Thursdays. So went to the mansion. Read about the prices. Got in and since I don't speak Spanish* (but speak people) I could see the young guys trying to upcharge. 100 m for beer and 2 girls. Everywhere I saw said 60 m. There were 2 girls a mother was leaving. It was about 1 am by this time. There were 2 guys tag teaming a girl on the circle couch. Sat with Paoula and another girl. Both skinny. I'd give a 5 over all. Not bad looking. Another customer showed and the other girl left. Paoula gave ok CBJ the multiple positions. I left my condoms in the room and the one they gave was too small. So then go to third floor for prepago cost 100 m. Had an OK time. Condom dried out and was too small so stopped. By this time, time to go. Damage was 106 m pesos for two drinks, one for each girl, and the prepago. * Someone offered to drive me. 25000 pesos.

Friday reached out to Emma from photoprepagos. Venezuelan. Nice body. Showed up about 1:30 pm and we got to it. She rode me the entire time and I was glad she did! She left. Made plans to get back with her. Rate was 160 m gave her 200 m. Her body is almost exactly like my bosses.

*Reached out to Lisa Ann from photoprepagos. Older. A hassle over what's app to get to show up. When she showed up, her body is banging. Huge perky bolt on, small waist, and Brazilian ass. She looks good to be in her 40's. Pics of face accurate but body is much better in person. She likes to get right to it. DFK, BBBJCIM, anal, even ass to mouth. No DFK after that! Very energetic. 160 m for hour + 100 m for BBBJCIM x2, and anal. Wasn't concerned since in states 250 at times for a half asked BJ, and less than enthusiastic sex.

Had others lined up for Saturday, but decided to site see. T-bone restaurant is a good steak house. A 600 g T-bone for 17 bucks!

It will not allow me to attach the photos I took.

Bolongo, good to read your report. I particularly like your details on Emma & Lisa Ann. Both are on my favorites list at photoprepagos. So Lisa Ann does ass to mouth! I'll remember that, and will stay away from DFK with her altogether, hah!

Can you give more info on this place you call Mansion? I am only familiar with the mansion for play in Medellin which I'm sure is very different from what you're talking about.

[QUOTE=StripperMan;2049682]How safe will Chapinero be? I'd like to believe that I could walk from Pussy House the 4-500 meters to my hotel or condo at 3 am. Probably not a good idea though??[/QUOTE]My apartment was about two blocks from pussy house. I never left the place before 12 am and had no issues walking back to my spot. The streets were usually dead. Caracas was a bit more lively but still didn't see many people.

[QUOTE=Samperaand;2049443]Do you mind if I ask what parts of 15th you walked? I'm starting around 54th and would love to be able to just walk house to house like you. I did RTFF but I don't think I took good enough notes.[/QUOTE]You would have to go much further north than that. I don't have the map in front of me with exact addresses but casas start to be come more abundant around 62 and north till about 72nd.

[QUOTE=StripperMan;2055070]Can you give more info on this place you call Mansion? I am only familiar with the mansion for play in Medellin which I'm sure is very different from what you're talking about.[/QUOTE]It's a swingers club.

[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2049697]It's a new site. That's why. It is the same as [URL]photoacompanhantes.com.br[/URL] in Brazil. Seems like a really good resource. I agree.

EDIT: now that I am checking out that site it looks like it is so new that there is hardly anyone on it! In Brazil this site is stuffed full with putas in every place. This one doesn't even seem to have a Medellin section![/QUOTE]I'm not sure how old it is but they totally have a section for Medellin ([URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/medellin[/URL] <-copy paste). There are at least 50 girls on that page.

There seems to be a lot of prepagos advertising on Twitter. However, when I tried to send a DM to them, I usually get: Your message could not be sent.

This persists even after I followed them and I have also check my Twitter settings.

Does anyone have any idea why this is happening? I am new to using Twitter.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Visionaire;2056546]There seems to be a lot of prepagos advertising on Twitter. However, when I tried to send a DM to them, I usually get: Your message could not be sent.

This persists even after I followed them and I have also check my Twitter settings.

Does anyone have any idea why this is happening? I am new to using Twitter.

Thanks![/QUOTE]The account may no longer be active. They may have it set so they have to follow you before you can send a DM.

Hi Bolongo,

I like your post, it inspires me. Being new to this site I can't work out how to send you a PM for my request.

November I am in Bogota for the first time. Your Airbnb location sounds great, if at all possible could you PM me with a contact point please.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Bolongo;2055026]Got into Bogata around 1130 pm Thursday. My airbnb host picked me up. Great spot. Every girl marvelled at the views. PM me for details. Got settled it was about 1245 before I jumped in Uber.

Went to Tronos, nothing. Not sure if it is closed or just not open on Thursdays. So went to the mansion. Read about the prices. Got in and since I don't speak Spanish* (but speak people) I could see the young guys trying to upcharge. 100 m for beer and 2 girls. Everywhere I saw said 60 m. There were 2 girls a mother was leaving. It was about 1 am by this time. There were 2 guys tag teaming a girl on the circle couch. Sat with Paoula and another girl. Both skinny. I'd give a 5 over all. Not bad looking. Another customer showed and the other girl left. Paoula gave ok CBJ the multiple positions. I left my condoms in the room and the one they gave was too small. So then go to third floor for prepago cost 100 m. Had an OK time. Condom dried out and was too small so stopped. By this time, time to go. Damage was 106 m pesos for two drinks, one for each girl, and the prepago. * Someone offered to drive me. 25000 pesos..[/QUOTE][blue]===============================================

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Everything is much easier when you know how its done, I simply couldn't work it out.

I enjoy the the site and its useful info. Look forward to the Colombian experience.

Best wishes.

Pedro.

So I have gotten alot of PMs. Let me give a bit more clarity. The only establishment I visited was The Mansion which is a swinger club. It was ok. I had scoped out photoprepahos for some time and sorted out my favorites. I whatsapped maybe 5 girls but only hooked up with 2 (work interferred more than it was supposed to). I only walked around the area and Zona T. I didn't go to Pussy House or other establishments.

The host was ok with girls. During our walk through he encouraged me to have parties and friends over. I gave the girls the address and apartment number. The security guards called up with their name when they arrived and I said yes. I would meet them at the elevator and walk them back to it. The gueards when I was there were women, one was kinda cute.

Also, check with your bank to make sure Colombia isn't on a banned list. My slush account was inaccessible Colombia was banned. I also have t-mobile. Free data and text, 20 cents a minute for calls. Uber would take a second to update and missed a few drivers because of it.

I don't speak spanish but downloaded Google Translate and downloaded english and spanish for off line. I would turn on the speech function and let people talk into to to translate. Chicas and businesses.

Hi dear bloggers,

Colombia can be a dangerous place to visit brothels. Usually are dark places and charge you for everything: the room, you must buy booze, you must invite every girl you wish to talk to a drink and of course you must pay the companion you decided to choose.

At the end you spend about $you. S 350. Whit this same money you can attend 3 spectacular babes from your hotel room.

I tried this agency and had fun with 9 girls during 3 days.

[URL]https://xpresspleasure.com/[/URL]

Hope this would help.

[QUOTE=AntonioDelaRu;2059931]Hi dear bloggers,

Colombia can be a dangerous place to visit brothels. Usually are dark places and charge you for everything: the room, you must buy booze, you must invite every girl you wish to talk to a drink and of course you must pay the companion you decided to choose.

At the end you spend about $you. S 350. Whit this same money you can attend 3 spectacular babes from your hotel room.

I tried this agency and had fun with 9 girls during 3 days.

[URL]https://xpresspleasure.com/[/URL]

Hope this would help.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a strong promotion for that escort agency. Makes me wonder if Antonio is affiliated with its ownership.

[QUOTE=AntonioDelaRu;2059931]Hi dear bloggers,

Colombia can be a dangerous place to visit brothels. Usually are dark places and charge you for everything: the room, you must buy booze, you must invite every girl you wish to talk to a drink and of course you must pay the companion you decided to choose.

At the end you spend about $you. S 350. Whit this same money you can attend 3 spectacular babes from your hotel room.

I tried this agency and had fun with 9 girls during 3 days.

[URL]https://xpresspleasure.com/[/URL]

Hope this would help.[/QUOTE]I tried that agency and they sent over 3 different 60 year old transvestites. One of them had a beard and he was the best looking.

Seriously, can't anyone recognize an obvious shill that is spreading outright lies about the scene in Bogota?

JjBee62,

What ever do you mean? His total of 1 post isn't suspicious at all!

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2060112]I tried that agency and they sent over 3 different 60 year old transvestites. One of them had a beard and he was the best looking.

Seriously, can't anyone recognize an obvious shill that is spreading outright lies about the scene in Bogota?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bolongo;2060127]JjBee62,

What ever do you mean? His total of 1 post isn't suspicious at all![/QUOTE]Well, I spent 25 thousand COP in one of the casas for 20 minutes, isn't that like 350 USD?

In about 3 weeks, my flight will be arriving into BOG at about 11 am on a weekday. I will need to get to my rented condo located just a few blocks from Pussy House in Chapinero. Uber estimates the fare at a max 23,000 cop. I may be mistaken but I am pretty sure just a month or so ago the Uber price was around 15 k.

I am open to taking a taxi from BOG, but I assume it's rip-off city for tourists like it is in Pattaya & Santo Domingo. But maybe I'll get a fair price as its all regulated with pre-set reasonable prices like I experienced my one visit to San Juan, Puerto Rico??

The owner of the condo I'm renting has offered a taxi for 40 k claiming that the taxi will have to pay for parking.

In about 3 weeks, my flight will be arriving into BOG at about 11 am on a weekday. I will need to get to my rented condo located just a few blocks from Pussy House in Chapinero. Uber estimates the fare at a max 23,000 cop. I may be mistaken but I am pretty sure just a month or so ago the Uber price was around 15 k.

I am open to taking a taxi from BOG, but I assume it's rip-off city for tourists like it is in Pattaya & Santo Domingo. But maybe I'll get a fair price as its all regulated with pre-set reasonable prices like I experienced my one visit to San Juan, Puerto Rico??

The owner of the condo I'm renting has offered a taxi for 40 k claiming that the taxi will have to pay for parking. What is a taxi I grab at the airport going to run?

[QUOTE=StripperMan;2061053]In about 3 weeks, my flight will be arriving into BOG at about 11 am on a weekday. I will need to get to my rented condo located just a few blocks from Pussy House in Chapinero. Uber estimates the fare at a max 23,000 cop. I may be mistaken but I am pretty sure just a month or so ago the Uber price was around 15 k.[/QUOTE]I used both Uber and Taxi's during my trip in June. Uber is lot cheaper than Taxi fares. But Taxi fares are also not that bad if you compare with US and Canada. I also paid around 20 K+ cop from Airport. There was a confusion on one of the Uber guy for pickup point and he cancelled on me. The second guy called me asked me to come up to the departure area. I have to use someone else to talk to him and translate this for me as I don't speak Spanish. Big disadvantage without Spanish skills in Bogota and will provide the details in a report later.

[QUOTE=BetaFin;2061463]I used both Uber and Taxi's during my trip in June. Uber is lot cheaper than Taxi fares. But Taxi fares are also not that bad if you compare with US and Canada. I also paid around 20 K+ cop from Airport. There was a confusion on one of the Uber guy for pickup point and he cancelled on me. The second guy called me asked me to come up to the departure area. I have to use someone else to talk to him and translate this for me as I don't speak Spanish. Big disadvantage without Spanish skills in Bogota and will provide the details in a report later.[/QUOTE]Do you know what the taxi's at the airport charge to Chapinero?

[QUOTE=StripperMan;2061053]In about 3 weeks, my flight will be arriving into BOG at about 11 am on a weekday. I will need to get to my rented condo located just a few blocks from Pussy House in Chapinero. Uber estimates the fare at a max 23,000 cop. I may be mistaken but I am pretty sure just a month or so ago the Uber price was around 15 k.

I am open to taking a taxi from BOG, but I assume it's rip-off city for tourists like it is in Pattaya & Santo Domingo. But maybe I'll get a fair price as its all regulated with pre-set reasonable prices like I experienced my one visit to San Juan, Puerto Rico??

The owner of the condo I'm renting has offered a taxi for 40 k claiming that the taxi will have to pay for parking. What is a taxi I grab at the airport going to run?[/QUOTE]Importantwhen you get out of the airport is not to answer to anyone offering you a cab (this are individials who will charge you way more than a regular taxi) and walk directly to the taxi station where you queue for the yellow taxis. There is a 6 000 overcharge for airport and a 2 000 overcharge for night or week end, the rest is on the taximeter. Basically, a typical taxi ride from the airport is 30 000. Bogota is not a ripp off city as there are few tourists. As a foreigner they might add 3 000 more for the ride, but nothing exagereted.

[QUOTE=StripperMan;2061530]Do you know what the taxi's at the airport charge to Chapinero?[/QUOTE]I paid 69 K white taxi and 29 K yellow taxi to Andino both in day time, which is 6 K further than Chapinero. So, your yellow taxi to Chapinero has to be close to 25 K.

Since we're on the subject of taxis, can anyone offer the contact info of a trusted driver who has an SUV? Preference would be for someone familiar with the mongering spots and even an English speaker, but neither are deal breakers. My next trip to Bogota will be with 3 other guys. I know, I know, that's a lot! But, it is what is. I just want to have a plan for late nights when we all take chicas back from someplace. Feel free to PM. Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2062765]Since we're on the subject of taxis, can anyone offer the contact info of a trusted driver who has an SUV? Preference would be for someone familiar with the mongering spots and even an English speaker, but neither are deal breakers. My next trip to Bogota will be with 3 other guys. I know, I know, that's a lot! But, it is what is. I just want to have a plan for late nights when we all take chicas back from someplace. Feel free to PM. Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]If you don't get a good referral here, you may want to make your own contact thru Uber Black. I just went to the Uber app, and priced out a trip from Pussy House in Chapinero to La Piscina. The price for Black was 15 k, and 10 k for UberX. Both these prices were higher fares than normal due to increased demand. In my experience both in the USA & abroad, Ubers are usually more than happy to go on a non-Uber cash basis.

Wow! I really, really like Colombia. I normally party in SouthEast Asia. Colombia is up there (might be better depending on your preferences) with Thailand, Cambodia and Philippines. I am definitely returning soon!

Thanks to the couple of people that makes this forum fantastic. I used the map, PDF file and info on this forum, and it made my trip easy!

People didn't really know much English. Actually, people in Thailand and Cambodia generally knew more English than the Colombians. But, with my limited Spanish ability and Google translate, it wasn't that hard. Your ability to give green money is what matters.

Uber sucks! I used Uber most of the time. I felt more safe and comfortable. But the Uber drivers are incompetent. The Uber driver seems to be ignorant of the city layout, especially in Candelaria, with all the one-way streets. Once, 3 consecutive Uber drivers were not able to get to me, even though my pinpoint on the App was accurate. Many times, the drivers would circle around, taking a long time to get to me. Also, after they picked me up, they after trouble navigating. The problem is that the driver would look at the App for directions (and not look at the road), and due to the lag, they would sometimes miss the turns.

Also, after approximately 2 PM, the Uber surge pricing was mostly on for the entire day / night. But even with the surge pricing, the prices were cheap, compared to Western prices. I also attempted to use Easy Taxi (this is another taxi App). But Easy Taxi is useless during most of the day if you don't add a large tip. None of the drivers are willing to pick you up for the normal low fares. Next time, thinking about taking more of the local taxi on the street. If you hop into a local taxi, do you have to negotiate, or do you just pay the meter?

What a brothel. Loved it. Spent most of my time there when I was in Bogota. Thanks for recommending it.

Many girls. Most of the girls were average, but a few were decent. One was very cute. Only 30 K Cop for 20 minutes. I felt very comfortable there, drinking beers.

But, most will not do BBBJ. A few girls offered to do it for a 50 K Cop tip. I said yes to the BBBJ, and that included CIM and Rimming, which I didn't ask for, but I was pleasantly surprised when it was included.

But I think I was charged the foreigner surcharge a few times. One girl said it was 40 K for 20 minutes. With one girl I had previously, I paid 30 K for 20 minutes (normal prices). Later I asked for 30 minutes, and she said it was 50 K Cop. But still, 40 K, 50 K is incredibly cheap (from a Californian perspective).

I went across the street to the other brothel. Not that many girls. Most / all the girls were chubby, when I was there. I liked that place because it had a huge sign stating the price (35 K for 30 minutes) and all the sexual acts that the girls did. I took one, and she wanted 50 K Cop tip for BBBJ. That also including CIM and Rimming.

Does anyone know a high end motel / apartment in Bogota? I want one with mirrors and swinging sex seats, or at least high end with some seats where I can penetrate the girl on it like a love chair.

[URL]http://www.losmejoresmoteles.co/category/moteles-con-jacuzzi-turco-y-sauna/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=1mIZMErk8w3Us_tnZ-lVs6h6kgvA&ll=4.6565924828673335%2C-74.0742019464355&z=15[/URL]

[QUOTE=Cursnoop;2063565]Does anyone know a high end motel / apartment in Bogota? I want one with mirrors and swinging sex seats, or at least high end with some seats where I can penetrate the girl on it like a love chair.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2063229]People didn't really know much English. Actually, people in Thailand and Cambodia generally knew more English than the Colombians. But, with my limited Spanish ability and Google translate, it wasn't that hard. Your ability to give green money is what matters.[/QUOTE]Funny how that works huh. My traveling friends and I always found it funny how SE Asians are so far removed from English speakers geographically, culturally, linguistically. But so many seem to have basic English down. Evenen in not touristy areas. Meanwhile in Colombia most I have come across struggle with English or simply not too interested.

[QUOTE=StripperMan;2061053]In about 3 weeks, my flight will be arriving into BOG at about 11 am on a weekday. I will need to get to my rented condo located just a few blocks from Pussy House in Chapinero. Uber estimates the fare at a max 23,000 cop. I may be mistaken but I am pretty sure just a month or so ago the Uber price was around 15 k.

I am open to taking a taxi from BOG, but I assume it's rip-off city for tourists like it is in Pattaya & Santo Domingo. But maybe I'll get a fair price as its all regulated with pre-set reasonable prices like I experienced my one visit to San Juan, Puerto Rico??

The owner of the condo I'm renting has offered a taxi for 40 k claiming that the taxi will have to pay for parking. What is a taxi I grab at the airport going to run?[/QUOTE]My apartment was a few blocks from Pussyhouse. Before I arrived I asked the host how much a taxi would be & he said 35 k. The taxi from the airport ended up around 32 k.

Wow-.

Lotsa Venezolanas showing up in Santa Fe.

Have been running into some super cuties from Venezuela. We as a friendly country and a beacon of light should be there to support them seriously this has created a Pussy Glut. They need more men to visit to help keep the peace.

So Hottt and they love to fuck! Lotsa cuties in the lower end bars like California Whiskeria and next door.

Some super cuties are on the street too.

[QUOTE=WorldJockey;2064068]My apartment was a few blocks from Pussyhouse. Before I arrived I asked the host how much a taxi would be & he said 35 k. The taxi from the airport ended up around 32 k.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I have been getting reports that the fare to Pussy House vicinity was around 23-25 k. No offense, is it possible you were scammed?

[QUOTE=StripperMan;2060079]Sounds like a strong promotion for that escort agency. Makes me wonder if Antonio is affiliated with its ownership.[/QUOTE]Of course. And the agency's charging around 600 K-650 K for two hours. That's about twice the going rate in Bogota. It could of course be a VIP site catering to foreign business men. But it isn't: nothing on the site is translated to English or any other foreign language. Pure scam!

[QUOTE=Routard;2044403]In Colombia you will always have a guard watching who is entering and exiting, hotels or private apartments strato 4-6. They really don't care if you bring a prepago, they just care for your safety. If you don't want any guard, then you have to go to a love motel. Or a private apartment in strato 1-3 that you won't find on Air BnB. If you need one, just pm me.[/QUOTE]In Colombia seeing sex workers is legal but only in designated areas (which likely means it is illegal around the relatively safe areas outside Santa Fe like Chapinero I suppose). I don't know how harsh the penalty is to see workers outside the designated zone or if it is enforced at all but I can understand why someone not being comfortable with guards watching over who comes to my room or worse ask for her ID. I am though aware that in Colombia all hotels and buildings have guards even those rented through airbnb likely because the city is so unsafe that having guards is a must.

[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;2065341]In Colombia seeing sex workers is legal but only in designated areas (which likely means it is illegal around the relatively safe areas outside Santa Fe like Chapinero I suppose). I don't know how harsh the penalty is to see workers outside the designated zone or if it is enforced at all but I can understand why someone not being comfortable with guards watching over who comes to my room or worse ask for her ID. .[/QUOTE]I never ever heard from any mongerer, any sex worker or from any media that someone received a penalty in Colombia for prostitution as long as it is between consentent adults. And I'm living here.

[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;2065341]In Colombia seeing sex workers is legal but only in designated areas (which likely means it is illegal around the relatively safe areas outside Santa Fe like Chapinero I suppose). I don't know how harsh the penalty is to see workers outside the designated zone or if it is enforced at all but I can understand why someone not being comfortable with guards watching over who comes to my room or worse ask for her ID. I am though aware that in Colombia all hotels and buildings have guards even those rented through airbnb likely because the city is so unsafe that having guards is a must.[/QUOTE]For someone who has never been to Colombia you certainly do know a lot of wrong information.

We went over this with you last year and you're back repeating the same garbage. Bogota is a city of nearly 12 million people. Like any mega-city there are plenty of areas that should be avoided. For a tourist, that's pretty easy to do. As long as you stay out of those areas and you pay attention to what you are doing, Bogota is not an unsafe city. If you stay in the right areas, it's safer than most comparable north American cities. Does that mean you should stagger around drunk at 4 am? No. But if you use common sense, stay to the populated areas you have very little to worry about.

One reason you have very little to worry about is because of all those security guards and police officers. My last visit to Bogota, 7 weeks ago, I walked nearly 20 miles over 3 days and never felt the least bit threatened. I also rode the Transmilenio and hopped off at several different random stations, just to walk around for awhile to see the areas. I did this in the parts of the city that I know are not the areas to stay out of. No problems. I walked in the morning, afternoon, evening and at night up until almost midnight. Not once did I find myself the least bit uncomfortable or worried.

Wherever you are in Bogota (or any other Colombian city) you have very little to worry about from the police for dealing with prepagos. As long as you are not attempting something with girls who are under the legal age and you are not being stupid about it the police have better things to worry about. I've had police officers give a smile and wave while talking to obvious prostitutes a long way from the Zona de Tolerencia. I've had them walk by less than 2 feet away and not pay any attention at all.

Now to all those security guards that you are worried about checking a woman's ID. The only reason why any visitor to Colombia would worry about having a prepagos ID checked is if they are specifically searching for girls who are under the legal age. If that is what you are looking for, stay out of Colombia. I'm pretty sure you will not like the prisons. If that is not what you are looking for, then you have nothing to worry about. They are checking the cedula to protect you and to protect their property. Unless you plan to specifically find a building with no security (which seems strange considering you think Bogota is so incredibly dangerous), if you have a woman come to your room her cedula is going to be checked. It might even be photocopied, or held at the desk until she leaves. If you can't deal with that there are other options. You can go to a club, casa or massage parlor where you can do your thing on the premises. You can take whatever girl you want to a love motel. Of course they will still check your passport and herr cedula there, but they aren't about to call the police because somebody came to their motel to fuck. That's why they are in business.

Do yourself a favor. Stay home. You've been told all of this information several times already and you apparently can't grasp it.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2065504]For someone who has never been to Colombia you certainly do know a lot of wrong information.

We went over this with you last year and you / re back repeating the same garbage. Bogota is a city of nearly 12 million people. Like any mega-city there are plenty of areas that should be avoided. For a tourist, that's pretty easy to do. As long as you stay out of those areas and you pay attention to what you are doing, Bogota is not an unsafe city. If you stay in the right areas, it's safer than most comparable north American cities. Does that mean you should stagger around drunk at 4 am? No. But if you use common sense, stay to the populated areas you have very little to worry about..[/QUOTE]Thanks and well said-I guess it is the year of fake news.

[QUOTE=DallasNorte;2065608]Thanks and well said-I guess it is the year of fake news.[/QUOTE]It wasn't meant as a news! Fake or real. It was what I read on the internet that prostitution is legal in Colombia but only in designated areas. If it is fake then sue Wikipedia!

From Wikipedia:

Prostitution in Colombia is legal as long as it is done in designated "tolerance zones".

At Jjbee62 - If you remember my posts from last year you also remember that I am not into seeing escorts or sex workers but females who dance for me in private. No sex no sexual acts. Also you should remember that I posted that I will demand age verification IDs to ensure legal age even for dancers. So your post is a lot off.

At Routard. Thank you for the respectful response. Always a gentleman.

[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;2065341]In Colombia seeing sex workers is legal but only in designated areas (which likely means it is illegal around the relatively safe areas outside Santa Fe like Chapinero I suppose). I don't know how harsh the penalty is to see workers outside the designated zone or if it is enforced at all but I can understand why someone not being comfortable with guards watching over who comes to my room or worse ask for her ID. I am though aware that in Colombia all hotels and buildings have guards even those rented through airbnb likely because the city is so unsafe that having guards is a must.[/QUOTE]Prostitution is not illegal in Colombia, if they haven't changed the law recently.

[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;2065341]In Colombia seeing sex workers is legal but only in designated areas (which likely means it is illegal around the relatively safe areas outside Santa Fe like Chapinero I suppose). I don't know how harsh the penalty is to see workers outside the designated zone or if it is enforced at all but I can understand why someone not being comfortable with guards watching over who comes to my room or worse ask for her ID. I am though aware that in Colombia all hotels and buildings have guards even those rented through airbnb likely because the city is so unsafe that having guards is a must.[/QUOTE]The only way I can see this being true, is for street walkers and soliciting on the street.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2065504]My last visit to Bogota, 7 weeks ago, I walked nearly 20 miles over 3 days and never felt the least bit threatened. I did this in the parts of the city that I know are not the areas to stay out of. No problems. I walked in the morning, afternoon, evening and at night up until almost midnight. Not once did I find myself the least bit uncomfortable or worried.[/QUOTE]95% of the time I stay downtown. When I meet chicks online and tell them I will be staying there they always say how dangerous it is and that I should stay somewhere else. When they come stay with me and we are out well past Jj's midnight hour I point out to them how peaceful the place is and there is no danger in sight. Sure we see a few dope fiends around but in 12 years none have ever said a word to me (exception is being in Santa Fe - they do come up to me there mumbling something or other but I usually just ignore them).

A couple trips ago me and a chick that came to see me from Bmanga were walking back to the hotel at 2 am. In front of Transmilenio San Diego I saw a barber shop open. Actually it appeared that the guy and his friend were just drinking and relaxing. Not knowing where my next haircut would come from, we turned back and I asked the guy if he could cut me up. Sure, he said. That guy now has a customer for life. As we walked back to the hotel I told my girl see no danger downtown and I was able to get a haircut at 2 am. This beats all. She is a beautician so when we got back to the room she got into the shower with me and washed my hair.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2065504]For someone who has never been to Colombia you certainly do know a lot of wrong information.

We went over this with you last year and you / re back repeating the same garbage. Bogota is a city of nearly 12 million people. Like any mega-city there are plenty of areas that should be avoided. For a tourist, that's pretty easy to do. As long as you stay out of those areas and you pay attention to what you are doing, Bogota is not an unsafe city. If you stay in the right areas, it's safer than most comparable north American cities. Does that mean you should stagger around drunk at 4 am? No. But if you use common sense, stay to the populated areas you have very little to worry about.

One reason you have very little to worry about is because of all those security guards and police officers. My last visit to Bogota, 7 weeks ago, I walked nearly 20 miles over 3 days and never felt the least bit threatened. I also rode the Transmilenio and hopped off at several different random stations, just to walk around for awhile to see the areas. I did this in the parts of the city that I know are not the areas to stay out of. No problems. I walked in the morning, afternoon, evening and at night up until almost midnight. Not once did I find myself the least bit uncomfortable or worried.

Wherever you are in Bogota (or any other Colombian city) you have very little to worry about from the police for dealing with prepagos. As long as you are not attempting something with girls who are under the legal age and you are not being stupid about it the police have better things to worry about. I've had police officers give a smile and wave while talking to obvious prostitutes a long way from the Zona de Tolerencia. I've had them walk by less than 2 feet away and not pay any attention at all.

Now to all those security guards that you are worried about checking a woman's ID. The only reason why any visitor to Colombia would worry about having a prepagos ID checked is if they are specifically searching for girls who are under the legal age. If that is what you are looking for, stay out of Colombia. I'm pretty sure you will not like the prisons. If that is not what you are looking for, then you have nothing to worry about. They are checking the cedula to protect you and to protect their property. Unless you plan to specifically find a building with no security (which seems strange considering you think Bogota is so incredibly dangerous), if you have a woman come to your room her cedula is going to be checked. It might even be photocopied, or held at the desk until she leaves. If you can't deal with that there are other options. You can go to a club, casa or massage parlor where you can do your thing on the premises. You can take whatever girl you want to a love motel. Of course they will still check your passport and herr cedula there, but they aren't about to call the police because somebody came to their motel to fuck. That's why they are in business.

Do yourself a favor. Stay home. You've been told all of this information several times already and you apparently can't grasp it.[/QUOTE]I also prefer a security guard or front desk that takes the ID. If you talk to them when you arrive with the girl, you can ask them to check with you before she gets her ID back. This reduces the risk of petty theft.

Chick comes over this morning to fuck then raids the mini bar, and has the nerve to call me rude and cheap. But I just got a message from her and she got suspended from work for 5 days for being late. LOL. That is what her ass gets. Now it looks like she is trying to get me to volunteer to take up the slack. Biotch I didn't see you trying to volunteer any money for that minibar.

[8/1, 9:23 AM Marisela: Tengo un problema.

[8/1, 9:24 AM Marisela: Me suspendieron por 5 theías 😫.

[8/1, 9:27 AM Marisela: Me suspendieron 5 theías no entiendes.

[8/1, 9:28 AM Marisela: Eso es mucho para mi.

[8/1, 9:29 AM Marisela: No me pagaráand esos 5 theías.

[8/1, 9:36 AM Marisela: Eso es mucho problemas para mi 😔.

[8/1, 9:41 AM Marisela: Dos theías no es mucho pero 5 si.

[8/1, 9:43 AM Marisela: Si vez porque yo me procupo por venir todos LOS theías a mi trabajo acá es muy diferente que en tu país.

Hi, I have this girl I'll be meeting and I'd like to do some outdoor play with blowjob to heat things up. She is up to it, but neither of us know the local laws and ordinances nor the good places where this could be done. This goes usually like this: some nice alley way or a long elevator ride or some corner in a building or park or woods, where few people go or where one could hear anyone a few seconds before they'd see us. Of course these places should not have ax murderers in wait. Or ideally a unisex public restroom or "family restroom". No, Motel is not an option, because the whole point of the game is to stay in public, no bed, no shower and stuff to freshen up.

Does anyone have some ideas of good places?

Anyone know whether those who accidentally walk in on you would have something to run to the police and make trouble? In the USA there are these state laws and ordinances against public indecency. In Brazil people have been jailed for doing sex on the beach, even if somewhat hidden. I could not find out anything about Colombia on Google.

[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2067423]Hi, I have this girl I'll be meeting and I'd like to do some outdoor play with blowjob to heat things up. She is up to it, but neither of us know the local laws and ordinances nor the good places where this could be done. This goes usually like this: some nice alley way or a long elevator ride or some corner in a building or park or woods, where few people go or where one could hear anyone a few seconds before they'd see us. Of course these places should not have ax murderers in wait. Or ideally a unisex public restroom or "family restroom". No, Motel is not an option, because the whole point of the game is to stay in public, no bed, no shower and stuff to freshen up.

Does anyone have some ideas of good places?

Anyone know whether those who accidentally walk in on you would have something to run to the police and make trouble? In the USA there are these state laws and ordinances against public indecency. In Brazil people have been jailed for doing sex on the beach, even if somewhat hidden. I could not find out anything about Colombia on Google.[/QUOTE]I don't think the letter of the law is your biggest problem. There's not a police officer in Colombia who knows all the laws, but that doesn't stop them from enforcing when they see something wrong. Having a lawyer prove you didn't violate any laws is small consolation after a few weeks (months or years) in a prison waiting for your lawyer to make your case.

Is that likely? Nope. But it all depends on who sees you.

Are you certain the girl is up for it? Chances are she'll agree to just about anything while she has those dollar signs in her eyes. Ask any of the guys who have pre-planned specific details. She'll remember how much you offered and forget just about everything else.

But, assuming she is willing to follow through, try some of the larger parks in the north of Bogota around dusk or just before sunrise. You might try the funicular up to Monserrate during the week. If you can get a deserted car, you may have time for a quick one. If you were in Medellin I'd suggest the Metrocable from the Santo Domingo station up to Parque Arvi. Weekdays you have a good chance a car to yourself and a 15 minute ride.

Is there a way to find semi-pros in Bogota? In Medellin, they're quite easy to find, but have not had similar luck in Bogota.

If so, please share your sources. Are you using ColombianCupid? Facebook? Tinder? Or anything else?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Cm6363;2067829]Is there a way to find semi-pros in Bogota? In Medellin, they're quite easy to find, but have not had similar luck in Bogota.

If so, please share your sources. Are you using ColombianCupid? Facebook? Tinder? Or anything else?

Thanks![/QUOTE]Not sure what is your defintion of semi-pro. If you mean alternative way to meet pros apart from brothels, clubs or agencies, then it could be Tinder, Twitter or Milerotico.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2067350]Chick comes over this morning to fuck then raids the mini bar, and has the nerve to call me rude and cheap. But I just got a message from her and she got suspended from work for 5 days for being late. LOL. That is what her ass gets. Now it looks like she is trying to get me to volunteer to take up the slack. Biotch I didn't see you trying to volunteer any money for that minibar.[/QUOTE]Dude a girl did that to me once, at the Matum in Santiago. Wanted the beer, the mini bottle liquor, the Pringles, the Snicker bar, you name it. Ever since then when I check into a hotel, I empty the mini bar and hide the stuff even before I lock up my passport and wallet.

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;2067891]Dude a girl did that to me once, at the Matum in Santiago. Wanted the beer, the mini bottle liquor, the Pringles, the Snicker bar, you name it. Ever since then when I check into a hotel, I empty the mini bar and hide the stuff even before I lock up my passport and wallet.[/QUOTE]Me too. But this is a regular chick. She met me at the airport and checked into the hotel with me. So there was no time that I could put those snacks in the safe. Luckily this chick does not drink and was only after the Pringles, Snickers, and other snacks.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2067896]Me too. But this is a regular chick. She met me at the airport and checked into the hotel with me. So there was no time that I could put those snacks in the safe. Luckily this chick does not drink and was only after the Pringles, Snickers, and other snacks.[/QUOTE]So did she come over in the morning, or did she meet you at airport and check in with you, sorry & just confused.

[QUOTE=RacShack;2067905]So did she come over in the morning, or did she meet you at airport and check in with you, sorry & just confused.[/QUOTE]Both! She met me at the airport and came to the hotel with me. She went home at 11 that night because that was as long as the babysitter would watch her daughter. Then she came back at 7 am before work. Her supervisor was calling her phone and I told her to answer it but she refused. Then when she got to work she sent me a message saying she was suspended for being late.

[QUOTE=Routard;2067840]Not sure what is your defintion of semi-pro. If you mean alternative way to meet pros apart from brothels, clubs or agencies, then it could be Tinder, Twitter or Milerotico.[/QUOTE]Without getting into one of the many extended discussions on this board, I would described a Semi-Pro as a girl who is not working the brothels or Mileroticos, but rather doesn't mind hooking up with a gringo for extra needed dinero now and again. My experience is they are more relaxed, more interested in hanging and less "transactional" than pros.

In Medellin, you might say the Mansion chicas are borderline, but many are just pros.

Re: Is there a way to find semi-pros in Bogota? In Medellin, they're quite easy to find, but have not had similar luck in Bogota.

If so, please share your sources. Are you using ColombianCupid? Facebook? Tinder? Or anything else?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Cm6363;2068058]Without getting into one of the many extended discussions on this board, I would described a Semi-Pro as a girl who is not working the brothels or Mileroticos, but rather doesn't mind hooking up with a gringo for extra needed dinero now and again. My experience is they are more relaxed, more interested in hanging and less "transactional" than pros.

In Medellin, you might say the Mansion chicas are borderline, but many are just pros.

Re: Is there a way to find semi-pros in Bogota? In Medellin, they're quite easy to find, but have not had similar luck in Bogota.

If so, please share your sources. Are you using ColombianCupid? Facebook? Tinder? Or anything else?

Thanks![/QUOTE]There are pros and regular girls in Bogota, nothing in between.

[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2067423]Hi, I have this girl I'll be meeting and I'd like to do some outdoor play with blowjob to heat things up. She is up to it, but neither of us know the local laws and ordinances nor the good places where this could be done. This goes usually like this: some nice alley way or a long elevator ride or some corner in a building or park or woods, where few people go or where one could hear anyone a few seconds before they'd see us. Of course these places should not have ax murderers in wait. Or ideally a unisex public restroom or "family restroom". No, Motel is not an option, because the whole point of the game is to stay in public, no bed, no shower and stuff to freshen up.

Does anyone have some ideas of good places?

Anyone know whether those who accidentally walk in on you would have something to run to the police and make trouble? In the USA there are these state laws and ordinances against public indecency. In Brazil people have been jailed for doing sex on the beach, even if somewhat hidden. I could not find out anything about Colombia on Google.[/QUOTE]A location I have used for exactly what you want is Parque Central Bavaria.

Particularly suitable on Sunday late afternoon early evening.

Access IDs limited on Sundays only access is via carrera 13 or calle 28, the gates on the Caracas are closed.

Best "play" on the western side.

[QUOTE=Cm6363;2068058]Without getting into one of the many extended discussions on this board, I would described a Semi-Pro as a girl who is not working the brothels or Mileroticos, but rather doesn't mind hooking up with a gringo for extra needed dinero now and again. My experience is they are more relaxed, more interested in hanging and less "transactional" than pros.

In Medellin, you might say the Mansion chicas are borderline, but many are just pros.

Re: Is there a way to find semi-pros in Bogota? In Medellin, they're quite easy to find, but have not had similar luck in Bogota.

If so, please share your sources. Are you using ColombianCupid? Facebook? Tinder? Or anything else?

Thanks![/QUOTE]The Mansion girls are absolutely not borderline. They are for the most part pros that started elsewhere (usually the casas) and moved on to make more money at the Mansion. It is rare to find a girl at the Mansion that hasn't been plied the trade somewhere else previously (although they may tell you otherwise).

[QUOTE=Routard;2068369]There are pros and regular girls in Bogota, nothing in between.[/QUOTE]The same as anywhere really.

Bogotá, Medellín, Cali, wherever, there are pros and regular girls, nothing in between.

The term semi-pro is thrown around, as a girl who is a pro, sometimes, with guys that she accepts.

She's still a pro, just not as frequent.

Bogota has them too, obviously.

Bogota is no different than the other cities in that respect.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2068860]The term semi-pro is thrown around, as a girl who is a pro, sometimes, with guys that she accepts. She's still a pro, just not as frequent.[/QUOTE]So where is the line drawn and how would you know for sure whether a girl is on one side or the other? If there are two chicks working at the Mansion and one gets 20 customers per week and the other only gets 5 customers, is the one that gets 5 customers a semi-pro?

In response to a post with a question, another question was posed what is a "semi-pro" and a brief answer was given, but the point of the original and subsequent posts was how to find ladies other than the Casas in Bogota. If you have anything to add on the main point, I would appreciate it. (Candidly, I'm not into a debate about "semi-pros.")

"WITHOUT GETTING INTO ONE OF THE MANY EXTENDED DISCUSSIONS ON THIS BOARD (emphasis added), I would described a Semi-Pro as a girl who is not working the brothels or Mileroticos, but rather doesn't mind hooking up with a gringo for extra needed dinero now and again. My experience is they are more relaxed, more interested in hanging and less "transactional" than pros.

In Medellin, you might say the Mansion chicas are borderline, but many are just pros.

Re: Is there a way to find semi-pros in Bogota? In Medellin, they're quite easy to find, but have not had similar luck in Bogota.

If so, please share your sources. Are you using ColombianCupid? Facebook? Tinder? Or anything else?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2068929]So where is the line drawn and how would you know for sure whether a girl is on one side or the other? If there are two chicks working at the Mansion and one gets 20 customers per week and the other only gets 5 customers, is the one that gets 5 customers a semi-pro?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cm6363;2069504]In response to a post with a question, another question was posed what is a "semi-pro" and a brief answer was given, but the point of the original and subsequent posts was how to find ladies other than the Casas in Bogota. If you have anything to add on the main point, I would appreciate it. (Candidly, I'm not into a debate about "semi-pros.")

"WITHOUT GETTING INTO ONE OF THE MANY EXTENDED DISCUSSIONS ON THIS BOARD (emphasis added), I would described a Semi-Pro as a girl who is not working the brothels or Mileroticos, but rather doesn't mind hooking up with a gringo for extra needed dinero now and again. My experience is they are more relaxed, more interested in hanging and less "transactional" than pros.

In Medellin, you might say the Mansion chicas are borderline, but many are just pros.

Re: Is there a way to find semi-pros in Bogota? In Medellin, they're quite easy to find, but have not had similar luck in Bogota.

If so, please share your sources. Are you using ColombianCupid? Facebook? Tinder? Or anything else?

Thanks![/QUOTE]If you're saying the Mansion chicas are semi-pros, then just look for semi-pros in any of the north clubs in Bogota. The atmosphere is better and price is about the same. They might be borderline and many might just be pros.

Plug into the Cupid sites and Seeking Arrangements, get on Tinder, try to connect with some Colombian girls on Facebook.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2069527]If you're saying the Mansion chicas are semi-pros...[/QUOTE]This is frustrating, but at least you tried to help. Thank you. Perhaps you missed this, "in Medellin, you might say the Mansion chicas are borderline, but many are just pros. " Ok, maybe this is my mistake in that most, if not essentially all, are pros.

So no, I'm not looking for a girl from the clubs of the North of Bogota. Again, I would describe a Semi-Pro as a girl who is not working the brothels or Mileroticos. (Of course you may never know, but if you don't look in those places, your odds are much better.).

With Facebook in Medellin, one girl's friends will lead you to a bunch of others. That requires a few ladies (or connected men) as a starting point. Any suggestions?

[QUOTE=Cm6363;2069504]"WITHOUT GETTING INTO ONE OF THE MANY EXTENDED DISCUSSIONS ON THIS BOARD (emphasis added), I would described a Semi-Pro as a girl who is not working the brothels or Mileroticos, but rather doesn't mind hooking up with a gringo for extra needed dinero now and again. My experience is they are more relaxed, more interested in hanging and less "transactional" than pros.[/QUOTE]But in order to tell you where to find what you are looking for, one has to understand what you are looking for. And what you say you are looking for makes no sense at all. I have seen tons of prostitutes in Colombia, but really gringos are few and far between. So if a chick is only waiting for a Gringo to roll into town and never fucking a Colombian, then this extra needed dinero must be needed next to never.

As far as meeting a part-time hooker on a dating website, well even a chick looking for a steady boyfriend gets hundreds of messages (I have seen over 1000 messages in different non-hooker chicks' boxes with my own eyes), so someone who is trying to hoar themseleves out to get easy money is not just going to go pick one out of all the thousands once every six months when she needs extra money. She is going to get all she can out of it. When mfs find a gold mine they do not just take one small nugget home and return six months later to get another small nugget. They gather up as much as they can carry, go drop it off, and come back for more.

This semi-prostitute term is some bullshit used by guys to fool themselves into believing the girl they are fucking for money is not doing it as often as someone who supposedly does it on a daily basis. When in fact a chick could sit up in a brothel and only get one customer in a week, whereas this supposedly part time chick is actually fucking three different customers everyday.

I remember fucking a chick in a strip club in Medellin. Afterwards I went raving to my buddy that I was with how this chick knocked my socks off and was squirting all over the place like a madman. He went and tried the same chick a couple of months later and said his experience with her was shitty and nothing like I described. Hell, maybe I just happened to catch her on her horniest day. Whether you get a non-prostitute, semi-prostitue, or full blown prostitute, your mileage will always vary.

[QUOTE=Cm6363;2069531]With Facebook in Medellin, one girl's friends will lead you to a bunch of others. That requires a few ladies (or connected men) as a starting point. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]And in a mongering facebook group that I am in you will see these same supposedly semi-pros in the friend's list of everyone in the group. To me, that says there is nothing semi about them.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2069538]But in order to tell you where to find what you are looking for, one has to understand what you are looking for. And what you say you are looking for makes no sense at all. I have seen tons of prostitutes in Colombia, but really gringos are few and far between. So if a chick is only waiting for a Gringo to roll into town and never fucking a Colombian, then this extra needed dinero must be needed next to never.

As far as meeting a part-time hooker on a dating website, well even a chick looking for a steady boyfriend gets hundreds of messages (I have seen over 1000 messages in different non-hooker chicks' boxes with my own eyes), so someone who is trying to hoar themseleves out to get easy money is not just going to go pick one out of all the thousands once every six months when she needs extra money. She is going to get all she can out of it. When mfs find a gold mine they do not just take one small nugget home and return six months later to get another small nugget. They gather up as much as they can carry, go drop it off, and come back for more.

This semi-prostitute term is some bullshit used by guys to fool themselves into believing the girl they are fucking for money is not doing it as often as someone who supposedly does it on a daily basis. When in fact a chick could sit up in a brothel and only get one customer in a week, whereas this supposedly part time chick is actually fucking three different customers everyday.

I remember fucking a chick in a strip club in Medellin. Afterwards I went raving to my buddy that I was with how this chick knocked my socks off and was squirting all over the place like a madman. He went and tried the same chick a couple of months later and said his experience with her was shitty and nothing like I described. Hell, maybe I just happened to catch her on her horniest day. Whether you get a non-prostitute, semi-prostitue, or full blown prostitute, your mileage will always vary.[/QUOTE]Perhaps you're right, but I'm not sure why your bothered answering.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2068929]So where is the line drawn and how would you know for sure whether a girl is on one side or the other? If there are two chicks working at the Mansion and one gets 20 customers per week and the other only gets 5 customers, is the one that gets 5 customers a semi-pro?[/QUOTE]I don't draw a line, because I don't care.

I don't think pro or semi-pro, I only care how I get along with the girl.

Chemistry is everything, as you already know.

[QUOTE=Cm6363;2069549]Perhaps you're right, but I'm not sure why your bothered answering.[/QUOTE]He bothered because this is a fairly common perception. People find a girl, or group of girls on Facebook and assume they are "semi-pros. ".

Saturday night I saw a group of Mansion girls working Parque Lleras. I saw several "Facebook" girls who I've also seen working the park.

The lesson here is that there isn't any difference. I've had casa and massage parlor girls that rocked my world. I've had "semi-pros" who were were lousy. I've had both results from both categories. The only difference is, the "semi-pros" demand a lot more.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2069703]He bothered because this is a fairly common perception. People find a girl, or group of girls on Facebook and assume they are "semi-pros. ".

Saturday night I saw a group of Mansion girls working Parque Lleras. I saw several "Facebook" girls who I've also seen working the park.

The lesson here is that there isn't any difference. I've had casa and massage parlor girls that rocked my world. I've had "semi-pros" who were were lousy. I've had both results from both categories. The only difference is, the "semi-pros" demand a lot more.[/QUOTE]I understand and do appreciate people think they are trying to be helpful. Yet from the beginning I realized this is a repeated topic for discussion and so I tried to head it off by saying what information I was looking for, not what constitutes a "semi-pro" or if there is such a thing.

He even quoted my emphasis: "WITHOUT GETTING INTO ONE OF THE MANY EXTENDED DISCUSSIONS ON THIS BOARD (emphasis added), I would describe a Semi-Pro as. . . " so I'm not sure how much clearer I can be.

Anyway thanks for the feedback and anything helpful members can provide about meeting ladies for discrete fun in Bogota.

[QUOTE=Cm6363;2067829]Is there a way to find semi-pros in Bogota? In Medellin, they're quite easy to find, but have not had similar luck in Bogota.

If so, please share your sources. Are you using ColombianCupid? Facebook? Tinder? Or anything else?

Thanks![/QUOTE]To answer your question without getting into the useless discussion below, I've had luck finding semi pros on SA, although not as much as in Mexico City or Lima. In Bogot a good share of chicas on the site (let's say 50% more or less) are hardened pros trying to get new clients at overrated prices (they are very easy to spot, especially if you speak good spanish), and another, I would say 20% are "legitimate" Sugar Babies, but among the remaining 30% there are many gems to be found; usually they are single mothers or university students but I've had more unusual encounters: for example a 25 yo engineer who is also part of Colombia's national team of a sport that I won't name for obvious reasons, or a chica of the same age who has an important job at an international construction firm who made business calls while we were cuddling in my bed, after action. The advantage -besides going out with normal girls and not prostitutes- is also that after meeting you and knowing that you're a gentleman, many of the chicas can give your contact to friends who need extra money, and the contact list can expand without using SA.

Hope I was helpful, have fun!

[QUOTE=ACMilan84;2069993]To answer your question without getting into the useless discussion below, I've had luck finding semi pros on SA, although not as much as in Mexico City or Lima. In Bogot a good share of chicas on the site (let's say 50% more or less) are hardened pros trying to get new clients at overrated prices (they are very easy to spot, especially if you speak good spanish), and another, I would say 20% are "legitimate" Sugar Babies, but among the remaining 30% there are many gems to be found; usually they are single mothers or university students but I've had more unusual encounters: for example a 25 yo engineer who is also part of Colombia's national team of a sport that I won't name for obvious reasons, or a chica of the same age who has an important job at an international construction firm who made business calls while we were cuddling in my bed, after action. The advantage -besides going out with normal girls and not prostitutes- is also that after meeting you and knowing that you're a gentleman, many of the chicas can give your contact to friends who need extra money, and the contact list can expand without using SA.

Hope I was helpful, have fun![/QUOTE]Thanks AC. That was helpful.

[QUOTE=ACMilan84;2069993]To answer your question without getting into the useless discussion below, I've had luck finding semi pros on SA, although not as much as in Mexico City or Lima. In Bogot a good share of chicas on the site (let's say 50% more or less) are hardened pros trying to get new clients at overrated prices (they are very easy to spot, especially if you speak good spanish), and another, I would say 20% are "legitimate" Sugar Babies, but among the remaining 30% there are many gems to be found; usually they are single mothers or university students but I've had more unusual encounters: for example a 25 yo engineer who is also part of Colombia's national team of a sport that I won't name for obvious reasons, or a chica of the same age who has an important job at an international construction firm who made business calls while we were cuddling in my bed, after action. The advantage -besides going out with normal girls and not prostitutes- is also that after meeting you and knowing that you're a gentleman, many of the chicas can give your contact to friends who need extra money, and the contact list can expand without using SA.

Hope I was helpful, have fun![/QUOTE]At ACMilan84,

Interesting to read of your success on SA. The mention of SA in recent threads prompted me to search there. Just about every entry was of an almost model-caliber girl. Lots of requests for my private photos, lots 'favorited' me and sent me messages (which I can't open until I pay for a subscription). Too good to be true was my conclusion.

Based on your experience, there must be a lot of chicas that consider the website to be more akin to one of the normal internet match sites.

You said that it was easy to figure out who were the hardened pros looking for new clients could you tell from the photos or what in the exchange of messages let you figure them out? As the SA website is essentially intended to provide a P4P-type of arrangement, I'm not concerned about getting mixed up between a 'hardened pro' and a 'semi-pro'. But, I'd like not to waste my time with those with phony listings. (Or, worse, get scammed by one.).

I was in Bogota about a year ago, stayed at the Four Seasons, had a suite with a fireplace. Best hotel ever, the staff was like family and would even call to my room when a hot prepago showed up for someone else. The chicas loved the fireplace, as did I. I went to a club one night, didn't get the name, it was near the Four Seasons, I went in, sat down and was immediately surrounded by 20 girls, hot, that just stood there waiting to get picked. There was zero pressure, no one talked to me unless I waved them over. I had an idea and yelled out "Who has acid?" in Spanish. 3 girls raised their hands, one was a solid 9 so I picked her. While I was talking to her, one of the maitre'DS come over with 6 hits of acid. I took the acid and the 9 back to the fireplace. Great time.

Hell yeah! That would be a killer trip so to speak!

[QUOTE=Vatore007;2071518]I was in Bogota about a year ago, stayed at the Four Seasons, had a suite with a fireplace. Best hotel ever, the staff was like family and would even call to my room when a hot prepago showed up for someone else. The chicas loved the fireplace, as did I. I went to a club one night, didn't get the name, it was near the Four Seasons, I went in, sat down and was immediately surrounded by 20 girls, hot, that just stood there waiting to get picked. There was zero pressure, no one talked to me unless I waved them over. I had an idea and yelled out "Who has acid?" in Spanish. 3 girls raised their hands, one was a solid 9 so I picked her. While I was talking to her, one of the maitre'DS come over with 6 hits of acid. I took the acid and the 9 back to the fireplace. Great time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Farfallah;2070445]At ACMilan84,

Interesting to read of your success on SA. The mention of SA in recent threads prompted me to search there. Just about every entry was of an almost model-caliber girl. Lots of requests for my private photos, lots 'favorited' me and sent me messages (which I can't open until I pay for a subscription). Too good to be true was my conclusion.

Based on your experience, there must be a lot of chicas that consider the website to be more akin to one of the normal internet match sites.

You said that it was easy to figure out who were the hardened pros looking for new clients could you tell from the photos or what in the exchange of messages let you figure them out? As the SA website is essentially intended to provide a P4P-type of arrangement, I'm not concerned about getting mixed up between a 'hardened pro' and a 'semi-pro'. But, I'd like not to waste my time with those with phony listings. (Or, worse, get scammed by one.).[/QUOTE]It's not too good to be true, I've had many successes on SA but the girls generally are way overpriced, some want a million pesos for all night. But you can find a reasonable girl, I've been quoted as much as 3 million pesos and as little as 300.000. You should definitely give it a shot.

Well, its been an interesting 4 nights in Bogota. I hit the Santa Fe bars & Pussy House on Wednesday & Friday nights, and have seen 3 prepagos.

Pussy House, Fiebre, Troya, & Paisas were all fun. Fiebre had the highest quality & quantity of hotties. All bars have 6 k Heineken, a 2 k tip gave me VIP status. Sex is 70 k for 15-20 minutes depending on the bar, room fee included. I did not fuck either night as I was jet lagged, already drained of two loads each night by the earlier prepagos. And mostly, I got a very sharky feeling from all the girls at the clubs. I am a picky mofo when it comes to pro's though. **as for safety in Santa Fe, I was there from 1-3 am both nights. I stayed on the main 2-3 streets only, and kept up a strong guard at all times. I could feel I was being watched, but the only problems I had were the bums trying to help me get a taxi. There was a visible police presence both nights.

These are the three prepagos I saw, and the experiences were less than good. Pink dress arrives and demands the money upfront. I kicked her out after 2 minutes. She even tried to intimidate me by picking up the phone and saying, "I don't work alone". The other two in laungerie were significantly heavier than their fotos. I fucked both laungerie girls as I had a whattsapp rapport with both, was already there, and they were still ok looking even with the extra weight. No repeat though. BTW, I asked all three for verification selfies to prove their appearance, and got dated fotos misrepresented as being taken that moment.

I am now asking all prepagos for selfies with 2 fingers up by their head, or their tits if they still want to hide their faces.

Also, small note, but I took a taxi form the airport queue Wednesday to Chapinero near Pussy House, and wonder if I got scammed for 4 k. The taxi driver, a nice guy about 30, confirmed my fare would be around 25-27 k, and showed me the meter running. We arrived and the meter read 238, or I assume 23.8 k. Taxi then informs me there's a 4 k additional charge, and total is 27.8 k. I didn't ask why as I had already decided to tip him paying a total of 30 k.

Intel needed would like higher end place to take a date to arrange an in house three some today. All suggustions appreaciated. We are near airport but we have no problem travelling.

[QUOTE=StripperMan;2071838] The other two in laungerie were significantly heavier than their fotos. I fucked both laungerie girls as I had a whattsapp rapport with both, was already there, and they were still ok looking even with the extra weight. No repeat though. BTW, I asked all three for verification selfies to prove their appearance, and got dated fotos misrepresented as being taken that moment.

I am now asking all prepagos for selfies with 2 fingers up by their head, or their tits if they still want to hide their faces.

Also, small note, but I took a taxi form the airport queue Wednesday to Chapinero near Pussy House, and wonder if I got scammed for 4 k. The taxi driver, a nice guy about 30, confirmed my fare would be around 25-27 k, and showed me the meter running. We arrived and the meter read 238, or I assume 23.8 k. Taxi then informs me there's a 4 k additional charge, and total is 27.8 k. I didn't ask why as I had already decided to tip him paying a total of 30 k.[/QUOTE]If you have whatsapp, why didn't you do a video chat with the girls instead of getting them to send fotos?

Troya is my spot. Great place. I have never seen any danger in the area either. Plenty of police there.

You did not get ripped off. There is a 4 K service charge to and from the airport with taxis. When I used Uber I think the service charge was way higher. Can someone please explain what the number on the meter is? I have been going to Bogota for 12 years and I still do not know. All I know is that they look on the chart that is on the back of the passenger seat to convert that number to pesos.

The taxi driver explained the meter to me as that you just add 2 zero's. The meter for my trip finished at 238. So the fare was 23,800, plus the 4 k.

The meter in my cab was nothing like I had ever seen. It was a small box, 1. 5" x 3", located near the front passenger's window. It only displayed small black numbers, nothing else. I didn't even see it at first it was so small and discreet.

[QUOTE=StripperMan;2071926]The taxi driver explained the meter to me as that you just add 2 zero's. The meter for my trip finished at 238. So the fare was 23,800, plus the 4 k.
[/QUOTE]You may not have gotten ripped off on that trip, but the way he explained it was inflated. The meter reading is based on "units" - 1 unit equals 100 meters or 30 seconds elapsed, at a rate of COP $78 per unit. However, on the conversion chart, each unit increment is rounded up to COP $100 instead of the said $78. Then there are all kinds of surcharges (like Mr. E said, the 4000 for airport is legit). Based on the chart from 2016 (not sure if higher for 2017) 238 on the meter should be COP $18600 in fare. Whole thing is not very precise and is designed to confuse, probably!

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[QUOTE=StripperMan;2071838]Well, its been an interesting 4 nights in Bogota. I hit the Santa Fe bars & Pussy House on Wednesday & Friday nights, and have seen 3 prepagos.

Pussy House, Fiebre, Troya, & Paisas were all fun. Fiebre had the highest quality & quantity of hotties. All bars have 6 k Heineken, a 2 k tip gave me VIP status. Sex is 70 k for 15-20 minutes depending on the bar, room fee included. I did not fuck either night as I was jet lagged, already drained of two loads each night by the earlier prepagos. And mostly, I got a very sharky feeling from all the girls at the clubs. I am a picky mofo when it comes to pro's though. **as for safety in Santa Fe, I was there from 1-3 am both nights. I stayed on the main 2-3 streets only, and kept up a strong guard at all times. I could feel I was being watched, but the only problems I had were the bums trying to help me get a taxi. There was a visible police presence both nights.

These are the three prepagos I saw, and the experiences were less than good. Pink dress arrives and demands the money upfront. I kicked her out after 2 minutes. She even tried to intimidate me by picking up the phone and saying, "I don't work alone". The other two in laungerie were significantly heavier than their fotos. I fucked both laungerie girls as I had a whattsapp rapport with both, was already there, and they were still ok looking even with the extra weight. No repeat though. BTW, I asked all three for verification selfies to prove their appearance, and got dated fotos misrepresented as being taken that moment.

I am now asking all prepagos for selfies with 2 fingers up by their head, or their tits if they still want to hide their faces.

Also, small note, but I took a taxi form the airport queue Wednesday to Chapinero near Pussy House, and wonder if I got scammed for 4 k. The taxi driver, a nice guy about 30, confirmed my fare would be around 25-27 k, and showed me the meter running. We arrived and the meter read 238, or I assume 23.8 k. Taxi then informs me there's a 4 k additional charge, and total is 27.8 k. I didn't ask why as I had already decided to tip him paying a total of 30 k.[/QUOTE]Interesting. Pink Dress, Lisa Ann, I did pay up front and she got right to it. You would have been happy with her. She isn't a rip off or short changer. She came in, and wanted to get starterted and went the entire hour. When I was pretty much done, she BBBJCIM for the last 10 minutes straight. I think the Lingerie girl on the left is Emma. I did see new photos of her and she is a little pudgier in the stomach. The pic I posted of her with her hands covering her face in the red panties was one that I took.

Sorry you had a shitty experience.

I'm arriving in Colombia for the first time next week and will begin my monger tour in Bogota from August 24th to 28th, then on to Medellin. If anyone is in town and needs a wing, it would be much appreciated. First round's on me.

And of course I'll be providing a trip report afterwards.

Hey guys,

First time going to Bogota next month. And I have a question, (probably a stupid noob one haha) what is a fair price to pay for all night with a girl in Colombia vs what you should pay for an hour session? I haven't really seen much talk about keeping a girl all night and the few I have seen are kind of old post. I would really appreciate the more current thoughts of some experienced members. Thanks everyone, I hope to have a blast in Colombia because if heard great things!

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2073915]Hey guys,

First time going to Bogota next month. And I have a question, (probably a stupid noob one haha) what is a fair price to pay for all night with a girl in Colombia vs what you should pay for an hour session? I haven't really seen much talk about keeping a girl all night and the few I have seen are kind of old post. I would really appreciate the more current thoughts of some experienced members. Thanks everyone, I hope to have a blast in Colombia because if heard great things![/QUOTE]You pay her 2 hours worth for TLN usually. Don't TLN with anyone you don't know it's usually a shitty experience.

I just realized I screwed up my own post. I'm not arriving "next month. " I meant to say I was arriving next week! I arrive in Bogota mid-day on August 24th and will stay until August 28th. Anyone want to go casa running etc, PM me.

I seriously need some assistance here, brothers. On two separate trips, I have tried to get to this place, but each time, the Uber brings me to the address, Carrera 18 # 93– 46, which I double check on Google maps and end up in front of a closed building. Not sure if I'm missing something. I had been there several times in the past, but had a 7 year hiatus, so I completely forgot what the place looks like. Can someone please post a photo of the front entrance?

Thanks!

This photo is from 2012, but the YouTube video is from 2015. But again they do not put addresses on the videos.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SD6PnibZcuk[/URL]

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2075443]I seriously need some assistance here, brothers. On two separate trips, I have tried to get to this place, but each time, the Uber brings me to the address, Carrera 18 # 93 46, which I double check on Google maps and end up in front of a closed building. Not sure if I'm missing something. I had been there several times in the past, but had a 7 year hiatus, so I completely forgot what the place looks like. Can someone please post a photo of the front entrance?

Thanks![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2075443]I seriously need some assistance here, brothers. On two separate trips, I have tried to get to this place, but each time, the Uber brings me to the address, Carrera 18 # 93 46, which I double check on Google maps and end up in front of a closed building. Not sure if I'm missing something. I had been there several times in the past, but had a 7 year hiatus, so I completely forgot what the place looks like. Can someone please post a photo of the front entrance?

Thanks![/QUOTE]It was another location 7 years ago, that's why you don't recognize it. Adress is OK, picture of World Travel in previous message is OK, googlemap is OK, you are just watching the wrong size of the street in googlemap.

World Travel / Routard.

Thanks for the info. I remember seeing that building, but it was dead. I wonder if I went on a closed night (twice)? At least I know what to look for!

I'm coming into Bogota tomorrow night the 25th and staying until the 28th and will be coming back Sep 2/3 before leaving the 4th. Looking for a wingman who's going to be in town during either of those times and wants to check out the scene. PM me if interested.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2075849]World Travel / Routard.

Thanks for the info. I remember seeing that building, but it was dead. I wonder if I went on a closed night (twice)? At least I know what to look for![/QUOTE]It's closed on Sunday and Holyday.

I was a guide for a member showing him around Santa Fe last Tuesday night. Awesome Venezolanas (Venezualan girls) all over SF now-- Check out Punto Oro on Calle 23 and 16th this is a cheaper club / bar There are Super Cuties there for less than say Troya or Paisas. We went all around Lotsa Super Chicas all around in the clubs and street-- CHeck out Lion on carrera 16th-- this a new club-- Super Hot Chicas there-- Venezolanas!

Also a good lower end bar is Cosmos on 16 a. There you can see live sex shows and be in them if you want. Also had Fantastic Lap dances there. I never get lap dances but I think that is my Newest Favorite thing to do there. My friend and I each had a lapdance from 2 different girls and paid the 10 mil pesos ($3.50) and the girls did us both for that. The girls were both 18-20 and very enthusiastic.

A Santa Fe Lap dance is a Real Lap Dance! Not that BS they have in so called Gentlemen's clubs in the US-- the girl does some grinding on you with their outfit or bra / panties and than strips down and does more putting their boobs / pussy right in your face. I was doing some pussy grabbing and they would take my hands and put them on their tits!! But it was ok to kiss and munch on the pussy when they went upside down and put it in your face! I think this is a great way to get to know how the girl will act if you take her upstairs.

Lotsa Super Cuties in the street too. Streety Sweeties!

Attached check out my Newest Hooker GF from Medellin 19 yo no kids. Natural DDs and she's a Street Sweety! Get Down Here before you die!

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2075605]This photo is from 2012, but the YouTube video is from 2015. But again they do not put addresses on the videos.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SD6PnibZcuk[/URL][/QUOTE]Juan Pablo's is a Rip-Off Clip Joint.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2064596]Wow-.

Lotsa Venezolanas showing up in Santa Fe.

Have been running into some super cuties from Venezuela. We as a friendly country and a beacon of light should be there to support them seriously this has created a Pussy Glut. They need more men to visit to help keep the peace.

So Hottt and they love to fuck! Lotsa cuties in the lower end bars like California Whiskeria and next door.

Some super cuties are on the street too.[/QUOTE]More here now. Get here before you die!

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2077583]A Santa Fe Lap dance is a Real Lap Dance! Not that BS they have in so called Gentlemen's clubs in the US[/QUOTE]Yup. Not even close.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2077583]I never get lap dances but I think that is my Newest Favorite thing to do there.[/QUOTE]Me too! The US totally nude strip joints are ridiculous. US $20 cover charge. $10 for mandatory coke (no alcohol allowed in California and Nevada). $20 or $30 for lap dance for 1 song, which you can't even touch.

I was at Venus night club in Santa Fe last Thursday. I was giving 2 K COP tips to the dancer on stage for a quick fondle. The local guy next to me said to me, "No! No! For that money, you get the girl for the entire song. And you share with your friends". I learned, and had a great time. In Venus, there are 5 K and 10 K COP dances. The 10 K COP dance is for 3 songs. It seems to last between 6-7 minutes. I returned Saturday night; it was packed. All the tables were full. It was fun. The announcer was asking for people to have sex with the girl on stage (for a charge; couldn't understand how much it was). The girls were average looking.

IMO, the average looks for the girls in slightly better in Troya than Venus. But in Troya, the lap dance is 20 K COP, for all the fondling you want to do for between 6-7 minutes. There are some cute girls that go to the different clubs and only do lap dances (no sex).

Fiebre Club has couple of decent girls. Didn't get the prices for the lap dances because the cute one was constantly busy.

For cuter girls (but less raunchy), the Pussy House (not in the Santa Fe area) is a better option, IMO. Many customers (mostly locals) give 2 K COP tips to the girls. All the girls will finger themselves. Some will allow pussy fondling on stage. That PDF file said the lap dance was 40K. Expensive for Colombia, but cheap compared to the US. But I would rather have 4 lap dances in Santa Fe than 1 in the Pussy House, even if the girl is slightly cuter.

Lesson learned: Some of the clubs in Santa Fe and the Pussy House was closed this past Sunday. Many businesses are closed on Sunday.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2077985]The US totally nude strip joints are ridiculous. US $20 cover charge. $10 for mandatory coke (no alcohol allowed in California and Nevada). $20 or $30 for lap dance for 1 song, which you can't even touch.[/QUOTE]And where I am from in Atlanta they even charge you $10 to park your car in their fucking parking lot.

Clear your inbox, please.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2077583]I was a guide for a member showing him around Santa Fe last Tuesday night. Awesome Venezolanas (Venezualan girls) all over SF now-- Check out Punto Oro on Calle 23 and 16th this is a cheaper club / bar There are Super Cuties there for less than say Troya or Paisas. We went all around Lotsa Super Chicas all around in the clubs and street-- CHeck out Lion on carrera 16th-- this a new club-- Super Hot Chicas there-- Venezolanas!

Also a good lower end bar is Cosmos on 16 a. There you can see live sex shows and be in them if you want. Also had Fantastic Lap dances there. I never get lap dances but I think that is my Newest Favorite thing to do there. My friend and I each had a lapdance from 2 different girls and paid the 10 mil pesos ($3.50) and the girls did us both for that. The girls were both 18-20 and very enthusiastic.

A Santa Fe Lap dance is a Real Lap Dance! Not that BS they have in so called Gentlemen's clubs in the US-- the girl does some grinding on you with their outfit or bra / panties and than strips down and does more putting their boobs / pussy right in your face.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2077985]Yup. Not even close.

Me too! The US totally nude strip joints are ridiculous. US $20 cover charge. $10 for mandatory coke (no alcohol allowed in California and Nevada). $20 or $30 for lap dance for 1 song, which you can't even touch.

I was at Venus night club in Santa Fe last Thursday. I was giving 2 K COP tips to the dancer on stage for a quick fondle. The local guy next to me said to me, "No! No! For that money, you get the girl for the entire song. And you share with your friends". I learned, and had a great time. In Venus, there are 5 K and 10 K COP dances. The 10 K COP dance is for 3 songs. It seems to last between 6-7 minutes. I returned Saturday night; it was packed. All the tables were full. It was fun. The announcer was asking for people to have sex with the girl on stage (for a charge; couldn't understand how much it was). The girls were average looking.

IMO, the average looks for the girls in slightly better in Troya than Venus. But in Troya, the lap dance is 20 K COP, for all the fondling you want to do for between 6-7 minutes. There are some cute girls that go to the different clubs and only do lap dances (no sex)..[/QUOTE]I have to check out Pussy House sometime. But I live 5 minutes walking from SF so it's hard to travel North. Although I used to travel to La Messanine every 2 weeks to see a certain girl there.

Living so close over the last few years has allowed me to meet so many Beautiful girls. There is always New Hot Pussy in SF.

Sometimes I just walk through just to window shop. I Love going to SF in the afternoon on Wed-Thurs Fri-Sat. So nice to see all the Hot StreetieSweeties in day light.

The funny thing about the clubs in SF is that different nights you can find a whole new bevy of babes -- And the cheaper clubs like Cosmo and Punto Oro or California a lot of times have new 18-20 year old and they can be so compliant. Lotsa times you can get BBJs. And you can find some real hotties. Just as Hot as Fiebre or Paisas.

These clubs are like. School for new hookers and when you get the lap dances they are trying to impress each other.

I admit, I'm addicted to pussy. I can never leave Bogota. Get here before you die!

Hello,

Does anyone know if Trojan Large condoms are found in Bogota? I know this sounds silly but I forgot to pack my usual condoms and need a substitute once I land. Do most drug stores carry the local large brand and what is it called?

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2078196]Hello,

Does anyone know if Trojan Large condoms are found in Bogota?[/QUOTE]The only place I have seen Trojan Magnum is in a sex store in zona rosa. And they were very expensive.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2078077]Lotsa times you can get BBJs.[/QUOTE]In the casas and lower priced strip joints, I always had to pay approximately 50 K COP tip to get BBBJ, usually with CIM. Not all girls are willing. 50 K is usually their first offer. Wondering if I can get them to accept a lower tip amount. But still, 50 K COP is only $17 US. A lot of money in Colombia, but cheap compared to the US. Sorry for spoiling the market. LOL!

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2078308]In the casas and lower priced strip joints, I always had to pay approximately 50 K COP tip to get BBBJ, usually with CIM. Not all girls are willing. 50 K is usually their first offer. Wondering if I can get them to accept a lower tip amount. But still, 50 K COP is only $17 US. A lot of money in Colombia, but cheap compared to the US. Sorry for spoiling the market. LOL![/QUOTE]Getting BBBJ can be difficult. Whenever I start talking to a girl about price I will ask 'Puedes chupar sin condom?' Sometimes it's not an issue, sometimes they say no and I smile and so 'que pena'.

Lots girls will do it after they get to know you--Many times I have been able to get it after a few sessions with the same girl. And it is only like $10 or 20 mil. The other night in Fiebre my friend got full service bare-back with a Venezolana for $60 mil-.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2078210]The only place I have seen Trojan Magnum is in a sex store in zona rosa. And they were very expensive.[/QUOTE]I will look for the store. I usually don't get Magnums. They are thick aren't they? I get the Large Lubricated ones. Looks like those are non existent in Colombia based on some internet searching. Will probably end up with Durex. Those tend to fit alright.

So yeah. It's 70 k for an hour en a Chaperino brothel but it's 50 k for BBBJ. Then one chica is 100 k sin condom. She even offered anal but I didn't bite. Surprisingly, lots of bareback on offer if you are well behaved and drop addicional.

This is very bad for Senior Yippie El Kayay. Very very bad.

First full day here and. Banged three already. Almost out of leche I think.

I went to that Calle 105 and Carrera 15. Hilarious. A bunch of closests on the second floor with 3-4 women packed inside. Tiny and I mean tiny hobbit closests to get a massage and fuck in.

But chicas are happy to visit you in the hotel. I didn't take them up on it.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2078716]I went to that Calle 105 and Carrera 15. Hilarious. A bunch of closests on the second floor with 3-4 women packed inside. Tiny and I mean tiny hobbit closests to get a massage and fuck in.

But chicas are happy to visit you in the hotel. I didn't take them up on it.[/QUOTE]LOL Yeah La Messanine can have some nice girls there. A great place to meet try and get the phone number for a date outside.

I remember one time there were 15-20 girls in one office. Cost was 80-90 mil when I used to visit, but it was a 45+ minute session. I used to have a 'GF' there. I would bring ice cream and we'd eat and bang and smoke joints.

Magnum condoms went for 58 k for 12. Not sure if that's expensive. I found them in a sex shop in El Retiro.

Hitting up closet chicas tomorrow and hopefully do better.

I literally had to pay another 100 k to go bareback again at a massage parlor in the north side. Chicas was trying to get me to add 200 k to 180 k for completo. But those off the shelf Durex condoms were not doing well.

Anyway enough bareback this year. This shit is dangerous.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2079127]Magnum condoms went for 58 k for 12. Not sure if that's expensive. I found them in a sex shop in El Retiro.[/QUOTE]I buy the higher end Magnum Ecstasy in Walmart in the States for the equivalent of 21,800 pesos. So yes, 58 K is high for regular Magnums.

Well after reading back to December of 2016 I couldn't take it anymore and moved my trip September 13 to 18. I m staying at viaggio 617, please let me know if that is not girl friendly as I read other viaggios are so I figured that one was in the middle of all the areas. The goals of my trip are the following:

1. Swinger club, I contacted Viviana but I don't think the gang bang is on during that time. But I'll still go to the Monestario based on Routard suggestion on Wednesday or Thursday.

2. Sante fe every day.

3. The mezzanine once per day.

4. Chapinero area.

5. High end area.

6. Prepagos.

I think I'll try Silvana Twitter at bgtasilvana (mixed reviews).

Does anyone not recommend the following agencies / prepagos.

[URL]http://m.co.mileroticos.com/escorts/hermosa-y-sensual-chica-para-ti-sofia/8825610/[/URL]

[URL]www.colombianitasbellas.com[/URL]

Lacelestina. Co this one seems legit.

[URL]lindasbogota.com[/URL]

[URL]http://nenasbogota.com/[/URL]

7. Maybe try a girl from tinder or SA.

I went to Absolute Spa 1 near El Retiro where I am staying. Walking in the women were all hot (fake tits, lipo) but it was chaos. They tell me to go upstairs and one of the girls ushers me into a room. I guess I was supposed to pick a woman and then go into the room because all of a sudden one of the morena chicas runs in. She asks for 300 k for a session. I am like wtf? It's 180 k up the street. Then she tries for 250 k. I ask her to present me the other hookers and she smiles and says she is enough.

I know what a clip joint looks like so at that point I make my apologies and leave.

Went up the street and paid 180 k for an hour at Avispitas. They will haggle for things like BBBJ there. Bareback sex is also available if you pay more. While not a clip joint the hookers push addicional a lot there. As far as I know only two rooms have showers.

I wanted to go further south to the remaining spas on the map but cops were up to something with a large presence. I was carded and left the area.

Overall Bogota is a bit disappointing so far. Much prefer the brothels in Medellin which are better run. The upside is the north part of Bogota is very safe. I am staying by parque El Virrey and come back drunk at 2 am with no problems. Well, I get carded almost every day but I figure that's the cost of security.

[QUOTE=DukesFord;2079411]

1. Swinger club, I contacted Viviana but I don't think the gang bang is on during that time. But I'll still go to the Monestario based on Routard suggestion on Wednesday or Thursday.
[/QUOTE]Viviana texted me a couple of days ago if I could help her to translate as a gringo had contacted her for info, I guess it was you! LOL! to answer your question, the next inverse gang bang is 21st of September. Also, Monasterio is great on Thursday, I however don't recomend it on Wednesday. Swing clubs for single, I would recomend on Monday and Tuesday Normandia, on Wednesday and Friday la Mansion, on thursday Monasterio, on saturday Tronos and no options on Sunday.

I used Google translate but odds are likely it was me. Too bad in going to miss this one, I hope I can catch the next one in Nov. Thanks for the recommendations!

Hurricane Irma was planning to reck havoc on the state I reside in so I decide to find shelter in a Colombian butt. Booked last minute flight that took me around the hurricane and 10 hours later I landed in Bogota. Took Uber to Hotel Vila America in Chaperino. Cost $33 a night. It's a nice room. Unsure if it's girl friendly. Put my bags down and showered then headed straight to Sante Fe. It wasn't very packed which was ok for me. Did a lap around the block into Lion, Troya, the club between Troya and Paisa, the two clubs across the street I don't know the name of and Fiebre. I session in Fiebre and the club between Troya and Paisas I think is called La Costanias or something like that. In Fiebre I went a super soft blanco skin baby faced Pasia. She tried to make love to me all soft and slow until I thought about the time LOL. Very sweet girl 24 year old name Viviana. Paid $70 k for 30 minutes but we were there for 45 or maybe more no one bothered us because I tipped cleaning lady before entering.

Second was 25 year old monster ass and work ethic Caroline from Maracaibo. She looked older but the way she moved that ass when I walked in sold me and she only wanted 60 k for 30 minutes. When we went upstairs no one was there so she set up everything and start giving me this sensual as covered but. I don't really like getting a BJ with a condom but just watching how careful she was nice LOL. Then I bent that huge ass over and went to town. After I bust she still wanted to fuck and got me hard again and we were off to the races. Fucked for another good 20 minutes but I was exhausted couldn't finish. I think she did because she was going wild. And she let bubble butt lover get a pic after much convincing. Time for bed.

Hey,

I am interested in visiting Bogota and eventually making it a regular in my list. I'm easy to please all I need is a reasonable place to stay that is in close distance to plenty girls. If there is a hotel or somewhere I can rent that is walking distance from lots of casas or streets where I can pick up chicas that would be great. The cheaper the better. Hopefully somewhere where I won't get kidnapped LOL.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2078196]Hello,

Does anyone know if Trojan Large condoms are found in Bogota? I know this sounds silly but I forgot to pack my usual condoms and need a substitute once I land. Do most drug stores carry the local large brand and what is it called?[/QUOTE]Get the "M" brand, they are local and I prefer them over Trojans.

[QUOTE=Global00;2081400]Hurricane Irma was planning to reck havoc on the state I reside in so I decide to find shelter in a Colombian butt. Booked last minute flight that took me around the hurricane and 10 hours later I landed in Bogota. Took Uber to Hotel Vila America in Chaperino. Cost $33 a night. It's a nice room. Unsure if it's girl friendly. Put my bags down and showered then headed straight to Sante Fe. It wasn't very packed which was ok for me. Did a lap around the block into Lion, Troya, the club between Troya and Paisa, the two clubs across the street I don't know the name of and Fiebre. I session in Fiebre and the club between Troya and Paisas I think is called La Costanias or something like that. In Fiebre I went a super soft blanco skin baby faced Pasia. She tried to make love to me all soft and slow until I thought about the time LOL. Very sweet girl 24 year old name Viviana. Paid $70 k for 30 minutes but we were there for 45 or maybe more no one bothered us because I tipped cleaning lady before entering.

Second was 25 year old monster ass and work ethic Caroline from Maracaibo. She looked older but the way she moved that ass when I walked in sold me and she only wanted 60 k for 30 minutes. When we went upstairs no one was there so she set up everything and start giving me this sensual as covered but. I don't really like getting a BJ with a condom but just watching how careful she was nice LOL. Then I bent that huge ass over and went to town. After I bust she still wanted to fuck and got me hard again and we were off to the races. Fucked for another good 20 minutes but I was exhausted couldn't finish. I think she did because she was going wild. And she let bubble butt lover get a pic after much convincing. Time for bed.[/QUOTE]A nice looking big round and firm butt! Papi likes mucho! I would also find shelter in that cola, mater of fact I did find shelter in a big Colombia butt but west of you in medellin.

TTM.

Absolutamente Tall Man LOL. I'm in Cartagena wishing I was in Bogota or Medellin. Keep up the great reports they are really helpful. Also, a huge thanks to Routard for his excellent reports on Bogota. You guys desire like an ISG reward. Hopefully I will get to your level one day.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2083489]A nice looking big round and firm butt! Papi likes mucho! I would also find shelter in that cola, mater of fact I did find shelter in a big Colombia butt but west of you in medellin.

TTM.[/QUOTE]

Always try to add some pictures of ass I've encountered on my journey. Venezuelan butt galore. Got to make it out there.

[QUOTE=Global00;2084000]Always try to add some pictures of ass I've encountered on my journey. Venezuelan butt galore. Got to make it out there.[/QUOTE]And these are some very fine butts my friend. Thank you for sharing.

Cheers.

A158.

Just trying to do my part. Hopefully more to come.

[QUOTE=A158;2084068]And these are some very fine butts my friend. Thank you for sharing.

Cheers.

A158.[/QUOTE]

I've seen the list of love motels, but candidly there are too many to choose from. Can anyone recommend a nice hotel, well-priced and not dirt cheap for a reason? It seems like the ones with the websites run in a base range of 50-60 K for 4 hours (before going to the decked out suites).

[URL]http://www.losmejoresmoteles.co/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Cm6363;2084088]I've seen the list of love motels, but candidly there are too many to choose from. Can anyone recommend a nice hotel, well-priced and not dirt cheap for a reason? It seems like the ones with the websites run in a base range of 50-60 K for 4 hours (before going to the decked out suites).

[URL]http://www.losmejoresmoteles.co/[/URL][/QUOTE][URL]http://www.laspalmasmotel.com/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Cm6363;2084088]I've seen the list of love motels, but candidly there are too many to choose from. Can anyone recommend a nice hotel, well-priced and not dirt cheap for a reason? It seems like the ones with the websites run in a base range of 50-60 K for 4 hours (before going to the decked out suites).

[URL]http://www.losmejoresmoteles.co/[/URL][/QUOTE]I like the motels in Chapinero-- Amarte Suite is nice on Carracas and 60th-- with different options There are many motels in that area. Dandy is more but it's got that super decadent modern look.

I met a girl down south before there are tons of motels down there.

You can ask to see the room first.

I have also seen the great lists (may thanks), but it would be of great help if someone could help me out with a decent GF friendly hotel in a decent neighborhood. I tried The mansion BTW, but they wish to receive my credit number and code as a deposit. Maybe they are great guys, but I am not willing to give that to strangers.

So looking for a hotel in Medellin, but also in Bogota for the same reason.

Went to Pussy House and Lido last Tuesday with another member-.

I Like the lay out of PussyHose and it has a nice design not too dark-- it was Tuesday there were only 6 girls -- a couple were 7-8.

Lido had 30+ girls Very Nice- 6-9 range-- I know they would want $300 mil more or less-- Which is Ridiculous As you can get the same quality for $50-80 Mil in Santa Fe at Troya / Paisa / Fiebre --other clubs.

I'm just not interested -- I Live here and I don't pay more than $70 mill (Usually Less) for GFE with an 8+ girl.

The place is a little brighter and nicely furnished. The Beers are $40 Mil vs 5 mil in SF or other places. Lido is a Clip Joint. But it's kinda of interesting to see I imagine you may see a Narco kingpin there.

Why is SF Pussy Central North? I say that because on a good night (and there are many) there are 350+ girls in SF on the streets and clubs there. And 350 is a low estimate.

I would say that Rio could be pussy Central South. But I have not been in a long time.

Was in SF last Saturday and Thursday doing the guide thing. Great nights. Beautiful girls. Went to all the clubs including Piscina and DollHouse. Those clubs are nice. But high prices.

Actually DollHouse beers are only 5 mil so I'm not sure what it would cost for a session there. Some real beauties there. But not different from the other clubs.

For me the lower end clubs like California, Punto Oro, Venus are the best because those clubs get a lot of the newer girls. They are fresh and eager to please. I regularly get BBBJ and GFEs.

These girls like to fuck and let me pull there hair while I gag them for 40 mil. One great example is my Hooker GF Sarah from Manizales. Super cute 19 yo Latina spinner looks like Michelle Rodriguez but way cuter.

Lotsa Venezolanos in these clubs and on the streets also check out Lion!! There is also a new club on 16 a.

Lotsa StreetieSweeties as usual. Love to pull their hair doing doggie and gagging them! I love them! Get here before you die!

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[QUOTE=Woodman09;2084808]Why is SF Pussy Central North? I say that because on a good night (and there are many) there are 350+ girls in SF on the streets and clubs there. And 350 is a low estimate.

I would say that Rio could be pussy Central South. But I have not been in a long time.

Was in SF last Saturday and Thursday doing the guide thing. Great nights. Beautiful girls. Went to all the clubs including Piscina and DollHouse. Those clubs are nice. But high prices.

Actually DollHouse beers are only 5 mil so I'm not sure what it would cost for a session there. Some real beauties there. But not different from the other clubs.

For me the lower end clubs like California, Punto Oro, Venus are the best because those clubs get a lot of the newer girls. They are fresh and eager to please. I regularly get BBBJ and GFEs.[/QUOTE]Hi,

I am thinking of starting my Colombia visits.

Are you a guide as I need one for my first visit.

Please let me know.

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[QUOTE=SureMan;2085385]Hi,

I am thinking of starting my Colombia visits.

Are you a guide as I need one for my first visit.

Please let me know.[/QUOTE]Hi,

Yes I do some guiding in Bogota -- I'm a senior member. I do not have any other affiliation with ISG (not schilling for paid subscriptions).

[QUOTE=WalkAround;2084305]I have also seen the great lists (may thanks), but it would be of great help if someone could help me out with a decent GF friendly hotel in a decent neighborhood. I tried The mansion BTW, but they wish to receive my credit number and code as a deposit. Maybe they are great guys, but I am not willing to give that to strangers.

So looking for a hotel in Medellin, but also in Bogota for the same reason.[/QUOTE]You may want to look into getting an AirBnB or HomeAway / VRBO-type rental apartment. There are prices as low as $22/ nt outside of Zona Norte (Zona Rosa and Parque 93).

[QUOTE=DukesFord;2079411]Well after reading back to December of 2016 I couldn't take it anymore and moved my trip September 13 to 18. I m staying at viaggio 617, please let me know if that is not girl friendly as I read other viaggios are so I figured that one was in the middle of all the areas. The goals of my trip are the following:

1. Swinger club, I contacted Viviana but I don't think the gang bang is on during that time. But I'll still go to the Monestario based on Routard suggestion on Wednesday or Thursday.

2. Sante fe every day.

3. The mezzanine once per day.

4. Chapinero area.

5. High end area..[/QUOTE]I have an overdue trip report, but in it I will detail my experience. In short, the girls are either not as they appear on the site or are not available at all. The manager / owner Stella is as sweet and sexy as can be (unavailable), but admitted the website was old and she didn't manage it and wasn't familiar with who was on it. I would skip it if I were you.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2078077] I admit, I'm addicted to pussy. I can never leave Bogota. Get here before you die![/QUOTE]Like me, you love bad be!

I am looking to visit again for just a quick 2 days, getting in on Friday and leaving Sunday. I am looking at the Holiday Inn Express Bogata the. See. At Carrera 7 and. 67-39 , Bogota, Colombia. Is this Chica friendly? Is there a fee per chica? I plan to have 2 per day minimum!

[URL]https://www.ihg.com/holidayinnexpress/hotels/us/en/bogota/bogbo/hoteldetail?cm_mmc=GoogleMaps-_-EX-_-CO-_-BOGBO[/URL]

Or ask in the correct Thread:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2956-Bogota-Hotels-and-Rental-Apartments[/url]

[QUOTE=Bolongo;2085851]I am looking to visit again for just a quick 2 days, getting in on Friday and leaving Sunday. I am looking at the Holiday Inn Express Bogata the. See. At Carrera 7 and. 67-39 , Bogota, Colombia. Is this Chica friendly? Is there a fee per chica? I plan to have 2 per day minimum![/QUOTE]

Sorry for having put this off so long. I had been wanting to visit Mexico and Colombia and rarely does life allow you to kill two birds with one stone but airfares direct from the US to Colombia are sky high unless you live in Miami or Houston. So I found it was significantly less to fly a domestic carrier to Mexico City and spend a day there, and then take Avianca to Bogota. I already posted my Mexico City (CDMX) TR in that forum, so this one takes up where that one left off. For the record I speak only a little Spanish, (I would describe myself as barely conversational) and it's true that if you speak no Spanish at all it will be VERY rough going in Colombia. This isn't Costa Rica: Bogota is huge, and there's no expat community to establish a cultural / linguistic beachhead for foreigners. And although I eventually enjoyed myself a lot Colombia doesn't lend itself to non Spanish speakers.

Thursday August 24th.

My flight from CDMX to Bogota got me there that afternoon and after clearing Customs in Bogota I got a taxi from one of the "official" taxi vendors, $20 to take me to my accommodations. He summoned the actual driver, in this case a young, tall, slim blanca with skin-tight pants that had the sides missing, with only criss-cross strands to hold them together. Frankly she looked like she was trying to drum up some different business of her own. I like cool weather so Bogota's climate agreed with me perfectly.

My driver took me to my Air be&be rental where I got situated and afterwards I offered her another 20 to be my tour guide for a couple of hours. There would be no action but it was nice to have something pretty to look at and talk to to orient me. She helped me get a SIM card and then drove me downtown where we spent a while rolling around, she pointing out the government offices. From there I wanted to go on foot, so she parked and offered to find me a place to eat. I got several stares from the locals, and one guy who was walking in front of me made a point to look over his shoulder with this sh! T-eating grin on his face. I blame my young, tall, leggy driver whose tight pants looked like she'd bought them on sale at Hooker-Mart.

I'm not really a food aficionado so I didn't take note of where I ate. I only remember that my driver took me this one place where they had a plate of chicken breasts, fries and rice for $4 and it tasted okay.

By this point it was getting on dark and while I could have stood to find some female company I instead allowed my lack of familiarity with the area or my rental buildings' guest policy to be my excuse to not go mongering that day. I looked at some of the monger maps, played around on PhotoPrepagos and MilEroticos but kept talking myself out of doing anything.

Friday August 25th.

I had been anticipating my Colombia trip for a while and was good and mad at myself for having blown what could have at least been a productive first night there. This was good because it helped me focus and stop procrastinating. My advice to any limited Spanish visitor to Colombia like myself would be to either arrange for a driver who is willing to be your wing in advance or at the very least do like I did and make it a point to find one and don't be afraid to be picky. You're in a foreign country where you don't know anyone, but more than that you're trying to cultivate a relationship. You will be spending a lot of time around this person. So it's important that you hit it off.

My wingman hunt was conducted right outside my building. A few of the taxis would camp out in the area waiting for a fare to come along. First guy I approached was either having a bad day or my pidgin Spanish displeased him, I don't know. Either way he seemed annoyed. I decided to pass. My Spanish wasn't improving in four days so might as well move on to someone else.

Next I came upon a bookish-looking fellow who seemed about my age. He seemed to understand my kindergarten-level Spanish well enough. I asked him his hourly rate, he said 20 mil. Took a few minutes of talking but the vibe was good, and we seemed to be on the same wavelength. I didn't realize it at that moment but I'd met my first real friend in the city.

Told him I wanted to go to Tantra Spa. He said it was in north of the city and that he didn't mind taking me but that there was action much closer by and had more action in a more compact area. Well, I insisted on going to Tantra Spa anyway. When we got there the place was closed. My driver took me to another place in the vicinity that had black wrought-iron bars and that inside was a single stripper catwalk and pole. The price for an hour with a girl was far too much but it showed how overly-eager I was to be able to cross my first Bogota session off the checklist. It was well after dark by now but my wingman let me know as long as I was paying he was staying.

I took my driver's advice and we went back to my side of town and then a hop skip and a jump to the Zona Tolerencia (at least I'm fairly sure that's where it was, feel free to correct me) all the while back he was peppering me with questions about how Bogota stacked up to the US and the occasional English translation of this or that Spanish word.

About the T-Zone, to a first timer it kind of felt like a cross between Amsterdam, Guadalajara and New York in the 1970's. The occasional stench of weed smoke wafting through the air, girls standing in the entrances of buildings, some wearing bikini tops in 63-degree night time weather, folks shouting out in Spanish with the occasional English speaker heard here and there. All the while people are honking their horns. I saw on one block an older woman with what I take to be her kids, seemed like they were trying to get her to buy them something. That bothered me, to see kids in a part of town like that. That was the only such scene I witnessed. Though it did nothing to ruin my mood or deter me. My driver parked the taxi in a garage and we walked up and down a couple of blocks. As we walked the streets people tried to sell me Viagra, candy, trinkets, cell phone minutes whatsoever --regular Latin America. Every strip club / brothel we passed guys outside would beckon us to stop our search for poon at their place, but my driver told me to keep it moving. That night (and the two others to follow) my driver made it a point to advise me on what was too much to be paying, and steered me towards locals pricing.

Finally we came to Troya's. I paid the 5 mil for a beer for my driver while I got water for myself.

The place was packed, the girl to guy ratio was good, the girls were mostly in their 20's and Colombia was as advertised: seemed most had visited the plastic surgeon for a boob job. I like Colombianas and it's because of their body type. I don't like fat chicks and won't take a flaca. I want a fit, voluptuous hour-glass. They had a couple of flacas there, but that night only saw one who seemed too chubby to belong there, the rest were my type. 70 mil for an hour to session with the girl on-site, though I do believe there was a small fee for the room.

My driver helped me get the lay of the land and seemed to take a genuine vicarious interest in making sure I found something for the hour. I saw Luisa, a 33 year-old mulatta who looks like a young Wanda de Jesus but with a leaner face. Really fit, though her figure was a smidge lean to be perfect for my tastes but nothing that would be a dealbreaker. We went upstairs, got a room and though my tool was a bit worn from the other session 90 minutes or so earlier, Luisa persevered for an hour until she struck leche. My second Bogota notch on the belt. My driver (who had also been having his fun with a girl while I was busy) and I walked a little more, got some fast food from a shop vendor and from there dropped me off at my rental. My driver gave me his number and told me to call him when I was ready to head out again.

Just goes to show how quickly a trip can go from sour to sweet, and all in the span of a few hours. My Bogota trip was off to a good start.

Getting your bearings in a new place is never easy, but for a first-timer with little Spanish I got over my initial jitters, and I would recommend to anyone like me to make if a priority to avail yourself of a local as a wingman. If you try to get a taxi driver like I did and rent him by the hour that's fine, it worked wonderfully for me, because my driver is a good and trusted friend now. But again, I also implore you to be super picky about choosing one, make sure this is a person you gel with. For your safety, but also because this person will be an important contact for you and can make things a LOT easier.

More to come.

Hey guys,

Will be in Bogota for a 17 hour layover Oct 17th. Planning to stay at Sheraton Four Points which looks like it should be chica friendly if it's not please let me know. Viaggio nueve trez was another option.

Probably will just go to Juan Pablo Zhivago since I'm solo and good reviews. Any advice would be appreciated. I plan to post trip report afterwards. Going to Guatemala, curacao, and panama as well that same week.

After breakfast I got a hankering for something genuinely touristy. So after a little more exploring downtown I got lunch at a subways then called my cab driver pal because I'd finally resolved to visit Monserrate, the white cathedral on a mountain overlooking the city. Naturally it's a heck of a tourist attraction and I was coming in 10 days before Pope Francis was scheduled to visit the country. I took the Teleferico (cable car) to the cathedral itself, which is over 10,000 feet above sea level. I was still adapting to being in Colombia as it was, but Monserrate gave me a chance to become reacquainted with altitude sickness. Anyway Monserrate was ornate and well decorated inside, had a black madonna and stained glass windows, and was worthy of being a cathedral at the top of a mountain. But it's also a tourist attraction, complete with pastry shop, restaurant and exercise area, so around the side and to the back of the church is an open-air bazaar where I bought some keychains whose theme was "pre-Colombian" AmerIndian culture --a miniature Aztec priest and another being a miniature aztec headdress.

After going through the bazaar and passing the food stands is a path leading to the top of the mountain. The very top is gated off with a huge antannae, but I got as close as I could. Like I said visiting Monserrate is the most touristy thing anyone could do in Bogota, but it was worth it and I recommend it to anyone.

After coming down my driver and I got a quick bite and I got myself a shower and my driver showed me where he lived and introduced me to some of his people. He plied me with more questions about comparisons between Colombia and the US, which seemed to be is favorite subject. After a while we went back to the T-Zone. This time I wanted to visit Pisces, but literally half the club was empty, and the vibe was low so since I'd had such a good time at Troya's we went back. A Venezuelan girl who I'd had my eye on the night before wasn't in sight but before long I was buttonholed by a nice negra from Cali named Alexandra. Round face, awesome figure. We went upstairs for an hour. Took a little doing but she got the job done --albeit not until after hitting me up more than once for an extra 6 mil. She and I went at it, then in the end she reverse-cowgirl'd me to a happy ending.

As I was coming down the stairs from my session my driver was coming up the stairs with a female. I made the rounds on the floor and saw some contenders and while I knew it was too soon for me to go again I most interested in satisfying my need for excess. Then I saw the "Venezuelan" I'd been looking for, she said her name was Erica, and I wanted to cross her off the list. Upon questioning she told me she wasn't a Venezuelan at all, rather a Colombiana. Not sure how I got mixed up on that one.

Despite my, and her, best efforts there was lots of hammering, but no leche. I was proud of my effort, but had to face facts that I'd asked a tad too much of Kent Jr too soon. I'd tried to schedule some appointments with some of the girls outside of the club, but they all gave the same inflated figure 250 k. Reminded me of the puta mafia in Jaco. I didn't even need my driver to tell me that was a no-go. I had one more day in the city and was curious about how worthwhile the girls standing in the doorways might be, so made a mental note to try one the next day.

The altitude fatigue and sessions had left me bone tired, so when I went to bed I was out like a light.

Sunday, August 27th.

Woke up, got a slice of pizza from a street vendor breakfast and then dozed off again. I realized that I would be flying out to Medellin the very next day and hadn't done my laundry. Being Sunday in a Catholic country I feared the place would be largely shut down and it was. I called my driver and he said he'd try to help. After visiting a couple of places that were closed we finally found one that was open for a few more hours- Easy Lavanderia. The cost was pricey for a load, 22 k, but they were the only game in town. After taking my clothes back to my habitacion and packing them we went back to the old standby, Zona-T.

Tryoa's was played out, and Pisces was dead --for the record the girls said 120 k for 30 minutes. I passed. Too many girls who are as pretty (and much prettier) to pay that.

Then I remembered that I wanted to try some street meat. Walked around the block and spied a buxom mature chick who called herself Gina. She had an easy smile and wore yoga pants and a barely-there spaghetti strap top with huge implants. 2 hours for 150 mil. I probably could have negotiated her down, but I wasn't in the mood to haggle so I agreed. Just behind where she stood were the rooms. Speaking of which the room was cold, but I had been briefed on what to expect and knew that you had to provide your own heat. Strangely the room had a TV in it playing porn of course. They could have kept the TV, how about a space heater and some towels!

Gina got naked and while her body had some miles on it she made it a point to flirt and be extra playful. The older Colombianas tend to try to make up for their lack of youth with an abundance of friendliness. Works for me.

I got my first leche in missionary, and after a brief siesta and some more horizontal tango Gina wound up finishing me manually. Hey a win's a win.

I said good night to my driver and told him I'd be staying in touch. Hopefully next time I would carve out more time to chat with his folks and associates and hopefully make more friends. He offered that if I ever needed a place to crash while in Medellin I was welcome at his place.

I went home to sleep and get ready for my morning flight to Medellin where I'd start off by staying at the Mansion (M1) for a couple of nights. In closing Bogota turned out to be a really great trip, though again, it's always best to cultivate local contacts, and it's mandatory for folks who speak little Spanish --I wouldn't visit Colombia at all if you speak zero-Spanish. I will definitely visit again, though this time I would make sure that my accomodations are definitely guest friendly. I passed many a hotel both in Bogota and Medellin and most of them had some sort of signage up saying they don't allow sex tourism, and around town you frequently see signs regarding child exploitation and the like. Seems somebody is concerned Colombia may get a reputation and they want to push back against that publicly. Considering their how long and ghastly the drug wars were there it's understandable.

Sorry for not having pics, but that's another thing. Maybe it's just me but seemed the girls were very averse to pictures. Almost like they were working from a script they all said the same thing, they were terrified of being put up on the internet, or they had some horror story about an amiga who got exposed by some careless dude online. I wanted to insist on more than one occasion, but then I always thought about how that might seem to them. Perhaps if I had gotten a girl back to my rental they would have been more open to it, but alas. As it is Colombia made a good first impression.

From here it was on to Medellin for a week. Will be posting that part soon.

[QUOTE=KentJones;2086306] I passed many a hotel both in Bogota and Medellin and most of them had some sort of signage up saying they don't allow sex tourism, and around town you frequently see signs regarding child exploitation and the like. Seems somebody is concerned Colombia may get a reputation and they want to push back against that publicly. Considering their how long and ghastly the drug wars were there it's understandable.[/QUOTE]My last visit to Medellin was December and up til then I had never seen such signage in a hotel. It is very surprising that there are such signs in Bogota at all. In my entire life I have seen only one posted notice against sex tourism at a tourist site in Medellin. Never seen any such thing in any other country. Unnecessary hysterics is what I think as the foreign input in P4P in Colombia is miniscule.

Does anyone know how long a Claro sim card lasts in Colombia before expiring?

I've read that they are only good for 60 days without use. Claro sim's in the DR last 6 mo's, but of course that's a different country. I bought one in Bogota last month, and it worked pretty good. I'll be returning in November, and the gap that I'll have been gone is actually about 65-70 days.

[QUOTE=KentJones;2085929]Finally we came to Troya's. I paid the 5 mil for a beer for my driver while I got water for myself.

The place was packed, the girl to guy ratio was good, the girls were mostly in their 20's and Colombia was as advertised: seemed most had visited the plastic surgeon for a boob job. I like Colombianas and it's because of their body type. I don't like fat chicks and won't take a flaca. I want a fit, voluptuous hour-glass. They had a couple of flacas there, but that night only saw one who seemed too chubby to belong there, the rest were my type. 70 mil for an hour to session with the girl on-site, though I do believe there was a small fee for the room.[/QUOTE]I am sorry to say that your report is a little strange. Which club do you go to? Troya's drink is 6 mil. You may get a one off offer for 70 mil upstairs, but that is rare. Don't you think it is strange that street girl asked for 150 mil for 2 hours, while Troya's girl asked for 7 mil an hour? Or maybe you are getting a local discount?

[QUOTE=StripperMan;2086636]Does anyone know how long a Claro sim card lasts in Colombia before expiring?

I've read that they are only good for 60 days without use. Claro sim's in the DR last 6 mo's, but of course that's a different country. I bought one in Bogota last month, and it worked pretty good. I'll be returning in November, and the gap that I'll have been gone is actually about 65-70 days.[/QUOTE]I'm kicking myself because I let my DR Claro SIM dormant for over 6 months and will have to waste time on the ground buying another one.

If you're in doubt, use www dot recharge dot com to add money to your overseas SIM. With Colombian Claro you can refill as little as US $1 at a time.

[QUOTE=StripperMan;2086636]Does anyone know how long a Claro sim card lasts in Colombia before expiring?

I've read that they are only good for 60 days without use. Claro sim's in the DR last 6 mo's, but of course that's a different country. I bought one in Bogota last month, and it worked pretty good. I'll be returning in November, and the gap that I'll have been gone is actually about 65-70 days.[/QUOTE]It is good for 60 days, and good for another 60 days from the time of recharge. I think you need to have your sim card registered in order to keep the number valid.

[QUOTE=WindAngel;2086658]I am sorry to say that your report is a little strange. Which club do you go to? Troya's drink is 6 mil. You may get a one off offer for 70 mil upstairs, but that is rare. Don't you think it is strange that street girl asked for 150 mil for 2 hours, while Troya's girl asked for 7 mil an hour? Or maybe you are getting a local discount?[/QUOTE]Last month I made several trips down to Santa Fe. The price for sex at Troya was consistently 70 k for 20 min or maybe even just 15. At Fiebre the price is also 70 k for 15 or 20 min. Apparently the girl gets 60 k, and 10 k goes to the house. Basic beers were 6 k at Troya, and 7 k at Fiebre.

If someone is getting discounts on beer at Troya that's cool. But if you can get 70 k for an hour of sex at Troya, well that's the deal of the century!

Thanks for the info on sim cards. I am going to check out recharging my sim online. I believe my sim is unregistered, so probably a no go on that.

On a separate note, I just bought a new iPhone SE from BestBuy. It's an ATT prepaid phone, and locked for 6 months. Is it true that in Colombia any phone can be unlocked for about 50 mil?

My research is giving me conflicting reports. 80% of the Colombians I talk to say it can be unlocked easily. In Mexico and the DR phones can be easily unlocked as well for about the same price. However, some Colombians like the owner of my Airbnb describe going to "many places in Bogota, and none being able to unlock" their American phones.

I have been quoted different prices from different girls. I have consistently got 60 K for 30 minutes at Troya. The most I was ever quoted by a girl there was I believe like 120 K for a half an hour but she was beautiful but had a bad attitude so I passed. I would assume that it is up to the girls because there was never any consistency when the girls first quote me a price. I always bargained down to at least 60 K.

[QUOTE=StripperMan;2086851]Last month I made several trips down to Santa Fe. The price for sex at Troya was consistently 70 k for 20 min or maybe even just 15. At Fiebre the price is also 70 k for 15 or 20 min. Apparently the girl gets 60 k, and 10 k goes to the house. Basic beers were 6 k at Troya, and 7 k at Fiebre.

If someone is getting discounts on beer at Troya that's cool. But if you can get 70 k for an hour of sex at Troya, well that's the deal of the century![/QUOTE]

On Thursday morning 9.30 am counted 250+ girls on street, don't know any other place in the world where these many available in the morning.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2084808]Why is SF Pussy Central North? I say that because on a good night (and there are many) there are 350+ girls in SF on the streets and clubs there. And 350 is a low estimate.
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[QUOTE=Jicks;2087587]counted 250+ girls on street[/QUOTE]You seriously counted 250+? Geez! Thanks for the commitment. Not 1 in that 250 diverted your attention from the task for an early morning shag?

[QUOTE=Global00;2086924]I have been quoted different prices from different girls. I have consistently got 60 K for 30 minutes at Troya. I would assume that it is up to the girls because there was never any consistency when the girls first quote me a price. I always bargained down to at least 60 K.[/QUOTE]Spot on. 60 K for girls and 5 K for beers. Many guys do not like to bargain and just accept the first price so maybe that is where the 70 K is coming from.

I'm in Bogota for 2 days for work. I landed with no mongering intentions, since I'll be busy most of the day and hope to meet up with a friend for dinner. My intentions were tested just after I landed and checked in on Facebook. A Medellin contact is in Bogota and immediately hit me up.

My friend couldn't make it to dinner last night, so I splurged. I'm staying near Calle 109 and there are some great, expensive restaurants nearby. If you're looking for good margaritas, good food and don't mind the price, try La Santa Guadalupe.

After dinner, still sticking with my no mongering plan, but wanting something to do I walked down to Aroma why Tanga (Cra. 15 #95-52). On the way in some guy tried to steer me to a different club a few doors down. If plans fail tonight I'll visit and report.

Aroma why Tanga is Bogota's answer to Santiago's "cafe con piernas. " The place is probably only 12' wide and about 70' deep, a catwalk with a 2 x 12 plank serving as a bar down each side. I think the zona rosa location has a more traditional layout. There were 8 girls working, all average to above average, cute, but no knockouts. All the girls dressed in identical halters and skirts, most with a bra and substantial panties underneath. The customers were mostly businessmen.

No cover charge, Club Colombia was 12 k, chica drinks 20 k. For 70 k, if I understood the girl correctly, they will strip down to pasties and panties. Hours 6 pm - 3 am Monday thru Saturday.

If you want to pay for overpriced drinks while chatting with pretty girls, with no chance for anything else, it's an okay place. No chance might be a bit strong. If you worked on them, you might find one willing to see you on her day off. Mostly they are just there to sell overpriced drinks.

Were they offering sex services?

Club Colombia is at what address?

The only one that shows up is a Restaurant on Avenida 82 # 9-11. [URL]http://www.restauranteclubcolombia.com.co/[/URL].

Thanks.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2088742]I'm in Bogota for 2 days for work. I landed with no mongering intentions, since I'll be busy most of the day and hope to meet up with a friend for dinner. My intentions were tested just after I landed and checked in on Facebook. A Medellin contact is in Bogota and immediately hit me up.

My friend couldn't make it to dinner last night, so I splurged. I'm staying near Calle 109 and there are some great, expensive restaurants nearby. If you're looking for good margaritas, good food and don't mind the price, try La Santa Guadalupe.

After dinner, still sticking with my no mongering plan, but wanting something to do I walked down to Aroma why Tanga (Cra. 15 #95-52). On the way in some guy tried to steer me to a different club a few doors down. If plans fail tonight I'll visit and report.

Aroma why Tanga is Bogota's answer to Santiago's "cafe con piernas. " The place is probably only 12' wide and about 70' deep, a catwalk with a 2 x 12 plank serving as a bar down each side. I think the zona rosa location has a more traditional layout. There were 8 girls working, all average to above average, cute, but no knockouts. All the girls dressed in identical halters and skirts, most with a bra and substantial panties underneath. The customers were mostly businessmen.

No cover charge, Club Colombia was 12 k, chica drinks 20 k. For 70 k, if I understood the girl correctly, they will strip down to pasties and panties. Hours 6 pm - 3 am Monday thru Saturday.

If you want to pay for overpriced drinks while chatting with pretty girls, with no chance for anything else, it's an okay place. No chance might be a bit strong. If you worked on them, you might find one willing to see you on her day off. Mostly they are just there to sell overpriced drinks.[/QUOTE]

After finishing everything I needed to do early, I decided to explore the area and check out some places. This involved almost 18 miles of walking yesterday.

The area:

I explored the area between Carrera 15 and Autopista Norte, from Calle 93 to Calle 126. This is one of the best neighborhoods in Bogota, also one of the most expensive. My hotel was in the middle of the area.

Suite 109: Calle 109 A #17-52.

170 k per night, including tax. Area is extremely quiet day and night. Rooms vary. Mine had a large balcony, 2 bathrooms, a very large bedroom with queen bed and a separate sitting room with couch. Next door room had a fireplace. There were a few issues. Bed was too hard, felt like a futon mattress. Heater didn't work, but desk provided a portable heater which worked fine. No hairdryer or iron in room. Maybe available at desk. Water pressure in one bathroom was very low. Other bathroom had a cheap shower head. Hot water was hot and unlimited. No security guard, front desk is staffed 24 hours and door is usually locked. It would be a good place to wife up, but doesn't appear chica friendly. However, on check in I was asked twice if I wanted to register for 1 or 2 people.

Centro Comercial Unicentro is one of the more popular malls in Bogota. It is located between Calle 122 - 126 at Carrera 15. There are 3 casinos located in the mall. Across from and just south of Unicentro is ground zero for casas de Cambio. There are 30 - 50 different currency exchange businesses all clumped together. If you need to exchange for pesos, this is probably the best place.

Restaurants:

Within the area are most of the best restaurants in Bogota along with plenty of cheap options. Plenty of options are along Calles 122, 116, 109,100 and 93, and Carreras 15 and 19. Calle 116 has a Hooters along with more casual family dining. Calle 109 restaurants are more upscale. The Carreras have more of the comida tipica and burger joints. Parque 93 has a mix of all 3.

The area around Calle 109 is full of spas, barbers and hair salons. Most of the barber shops are very lavish, if you are looking for a 5 star haircut. There are also several places for legitimate massages.

Mongering:

Most of the opportunities are in the clubs which have been reviewed by others. They tend to be expensive. There are several massage parlors in the area. Some can be found on Mileroticos. The ones I have specific info on are The Mezzanines and Anabella's Spa.

The Mezzanines are on the northwest corner of Carrera 15 at Calle 104. There are 5 or so tiny massage spots on the second floor. I didn't visit this trip. The rooms are tiny. Each place typically has 3 - 5 girls. About 100 k for an hour with full service and CBJ.

Anabella's Spa is just south at Carrera 15 #103-37.3 - 5 girls, average looks, same price. The one I saw had a great spinner body with perfect teacup tits. Room was tiny, but they have a larger room for 20 k more.

The only club I visited is listed on the monger map as Punto G at Carrera 15 # 95-80. The current name is Punto 95.15 average looking girls, in a large, average looking club. Most appeared to be late 20's to mid 30's. If you're anywhere close to the area someone will try to pull you in. I'm guessing hours are 8 or 9 pm to 2 or 3 am. Upon entry you'll be led to a seat and handed a drink menu. Club Colombia is 30 k, chica drinks are 45 k. This is the point when you should realize, there are better options.

After ordering your drink, all available girls will gather and do a quick walk by. Then they will wait for you to pick one. It's one of the more awkward things I've seen. There were only 3 customers, so there were plenty of choices, just no good choices.

Rooms are 150 k. Seeing the club, I expect they are only worth 10 k. Girls expect 300 k, but with no customers and ridiculous room prices, some will quickly drop to 150 k. For 300 - 450 k you can have a 50 k Medellin Centro experience with a 30 k girl.

Conclusion:

As I knew when I booked my room, this is not a mongering area. Best bets are the massage parlors daytime. If you're looking for fine dining and upscale shopping, this is a good spot.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2089059]Were they offering sex services?

Club Colombia is at what address?

The only one that shows up is a Restaurant on Avenida 82 # 9-11. [URL]http://www.restauranteclubcolombia.com.co/[/URL].

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Maybe he's talking about the beer Club Colombia!

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2089059]Were they offering sex services?

Club Colombia is at what address?

The only one that shows up is a Restaurant on Avenida 82 # 9-11. [URL]http://www.restauranteclubcolombia.com.co/[/URL].

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Club Colombia Rojo is across the street and Club Colombia Oro is down the block. No seriously Club Colombia is a beer.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2089059]Were they offering sex services?

Club Colombia is at what address?

The only one that shows up is a Restaurant on Avenida 82 # 9-11. [URL]http://www.restauranteclubcolombia.com.co/[/URL].

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Aroma e Tanga offers nothing at all.

Club Colombia is a brand of beer. Aroma e Tanga sells them for 12 k cop.

I think he was only talking about Aroma. The club Colombia was the beer, hence at 12 k that's why it was very expensive.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2089059]Were they offering sex services?

Club Colombia is at what address?

The only one that shows up is a Restaurant on Avenida 82 # 9-11. [URL]http://www.restauranteclubcolombia.com.co/[/URL].

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Well, that is another story. I would say 100 are touchable, 50 are payable and may be 5 doable. LOL.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2088503]You seriously counted 250+? Geez! Thanks for the commitment. Not 1 in that 250 diverted your attention from the task for an early morning shag?[/QUOTE]

Hello everybody,

I have a question never been to Bogota before I am planning to go this December, so is December bad time to go since the girls are busy with their family?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=MistryBoy;2090066]Hello everybody,

I have a question never been to Bogota before I am planning to go this December, so is December bad time to go since the girls are busy with their family?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Early December is OK- It definitely is quieter before the 25th to new years.

[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cFgX1Y_LzRQ[/URL]

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[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXnsxXJ4i64[/URL]

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2091284][URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cFgX1Y_LzRQ[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ye-D2QKjUc[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmYjqLjNRYg[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXnsxXJ4i64[/URL][/QUOTE]Reminiscent of Pattaya but less women and more booty. However, in Patts the booty is all natural. Have never been to Bogota, but isn't Bogota cold? How do these girls manage?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2091553]Reminiscent of Pattaya but less women and more booty. However, in Patts the booty is all natural. Have never been to Bogota, but isn't Bogota cold? How do these girls manage?[/QUOTE]Actually. There are Mmore girls at different times. I would say when busy there are 400+ girls in Santa Fe's clubs and streets. It is cold at times high 50's low 60's.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2091553]Reminiscent of Pattaya but less women and more booty. However, in Patts the booty is all natural. Have never been to Bogota, but isn't Bogota cold? How do these girls manage?[/QUOTE]Question, never been to Bogota and only spent a few hours in El Centro in MDE. What are the alcoves / entrances they are standing in? Hotel lobbies? From what I saw much better looking women in Bog than in El Centro MDE.

Is Santa Fe the equivalent of El Centro in MDE? In Bogota where would the El Poblado area be?

[QUOTE=Jbj64;2091682]Question, never been to Bogota and only spent a few hours in El Centro in MDE. What are the alcoves / entrances they are standing in? Hotel lobbies? From what I saw much better looking women in Bog than in El Centro MDE.

Is Santa Fe the equivalent of El Centro in MDE? In Bogota where would the El Poblado area be?[/QUOTE]Mostly they are short time cheap hotels. Yes, Santa Fe is similar to the El Centro red light district. Bogota's version of El Poblado would be from Zona Rosa north, east of Carrera 19.

Woodman I was Bogota in January and stayed near Santa Fe and I couldn't get over how hot the street girls were. The club guys kept trying to get me to come into the clubs but I was more than happy with the street girls. Next stop Tijuana!

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2091284][URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cFgX1Y_LzRQ[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ye-D2QKjUc[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmYjqLjNRYg[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXnsxXJ4i64[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2090593]Early December is OK- It definitely is quieter before the 25th to new years.[/QUOTE]Thank you so much.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2091707]Mostly they are short time cheap hotels. Yes, Santa Fe is similar to the El Centro red light district. Bogota's version of El Poblado would be from Zona Rosa north, east of Carrera 19.[/QUOTE]Posters have spooked me about safety in El Centro so I never stay there after 8.00 pm. How safe is Santa Fe? Can you walk around in safety at night and the wee hours of the morning?

[QUOTE=Drf1987;2091716]Woodman I was Bogota in January and stayed near Santa Fe and I couldn't get over how hot the street girls were. The club guys kept trying to get me to come into the clubs but I was more than happy with the street girls. Next stop Tijuana![/QUOTE]I Love the StreetySweeties! I have met girls that were 9+ and Nice Price too $30-$50 mil GFEs!

The Street girls in Tijuana are not as hot - at least they weren't when I used to go 15 yrs ago- Also the girls in general are just not as nice.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2091993]Posters have spooked me about safety in El Centro so I never stay there after 8.00 pm. How safe is Santa Fe? Can you walk around in safety at night and the wee hours of the morning?[/QUOTE]Personally I wouldn't walk around Santa Fe during the wee hours of the morning. Can't say how dangerous it is at that time, because it's not a time when I would go.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2091993]Posters have spooked me about safety in El Centro so I never stay there after 8.00 pm. How safe is Santa Fe? Can you walk around in safety at night and the wee hours of the morning?[/QUOTE]What do they say that they have SEEN happen there? I have been walking (most of the time alone) around downtown and Santa Fe at 3 am for the 12 years that I have been going to Colombia and have never seen a damn thing happen.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2092108]What do they say that they have SEEN happen there? I have been walking (most of the time alone) around downtown and Santa Fe at 3 am for the 12 years that I have been going to Colombia and have never seen a damn thing happen.[/QUOTE]I probably should have been more clear, I meant El Centro Medellin. I have never been to Bogota.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2092287]I probably should have been more clear, I meant El Centro Medellin. I have never been to Bogota.[/QUOTE]To me it is nothing. But if you are afraid of downtown Medellin at night, I do not think you will be able to handle Santa Fe at night. Santa Fe is 24 hours though and there are less people during the day. At night there are more girls, more guys partying, and more police. I usually do not see more than 1 homeless beggar there at night. They will just stand there waiting for me to give them something when I am posted up on a corner. I usually just let them get tired of waiting then they walk off.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2092287]I probably should have been more clear, I meant El Centro Medellin. I have never been to Bogota.[/QUOTE]Regardless of what anyone says, the tough guys, etc; el Centro in Medellin at night, especially after 10 pm or so, is not a good place to roam, especially solo.

I’m not talking the path between strip clubs, I mean Botero, Veracruz, Raudal, etc.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2092352]Regardless of what anyone says, the tough guys, etc; el Centro in Medellin at night, especially after 10 pm or so, is not a good place to roam, especially solo.

Im not talking the path between strip clubs, I mean Botero, Veracruz, Raudal, etc.[/QUOTE]I am quite aware of the difference between being a tough guy on the forum and a tough guy on the ground. I will not be fooled into walking through El Centro Medellin after 10.00 pm. I am quite capable of defending myself but will not encourage 10 angry guys to jump this obvious foreigner, however disguised.

Looks like Trannies are allowed only at Calle 20 and Carrera 15 within Santa Fe. There are many girls too in both streets but confirm before approaching.

I've walked from the Bar Maracaibo to Conejitas, a fairly short distance at night, not even 10 pm yet and theres always some sketchy shit going on, especially on Carrera 51. I walk fast and deliberately and never order more than a single beer that I never finish. Be careful. Safe travels mates.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2092394]I am quite aware of the difference between being a tough guy on the forum and a tough guy on the ground. I will not be fooled into walking through El Centro Medellin after 10.00 pm. I am quite capable of defending myself but will not encourage 10 angry guys to jump this obvious foreigner, however disguised.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2092611]I've walked from the Bar Maracaibo to Conejitas, a fairly short distance at night, not even 10 pm yet and theres always some sketchy shit going on,[/QUOTE]What kind of sketchy shit?

[QUOTE=Jicks;2092423]Looks like Trannies are allowed only at Calle 20 and Carrera 15 within Santa Fe. There are many girls too in both streets but confirm before approaching.[/QUOTE]I've been told several times by locals, better to stay on or to the north of Calle 22. (North is to the right if you are walking from the Transmillenio. The Calle numbers are rising.).

Personally, having walked through the area you mentioned during the day with a local, I highly doubt you will find a gem around Calle 20 that you wouldn't find in the relatively safer area.

By the way, another local told me he was robbed at knifepoint during the day once in Santa Fe. I've never had any problems, but it is better to be aware.

Solid report. Add Atunes for the best daytime club in Santa Fe. COP 60 K for 15 minutes. No flexibility on the time. Troya asking price is 70 K, but you can negotiate 60 K for 20 minutes. Less selection, but good quality. Aguila beers are more expensive at Troya COP 8 K vs Atunes COP 3 K or 4 K.

[QUOTE=KentJones;2086306]After breakfast I got a hankering for something genuinely touristy. So after a little more exploring downtown I got lunch at a subways then called my cab driver pal because I'd finally resolved to visit Monserrate, the white cathedral on a mountain overlooking the city. Naturally it's a heck of a tourist attraction and I was coming in 10 days before Pope Francis was scheduled to visit the country. I took the Teleferico (cable car) to the cathedral itself, which is over 10,000 feet above sea level. I was still adapting to being in Colombia as it was, but Monserrate gave me a chance to become reacquainted with altitude sickness. Anyway Monserrate was ornate and well decorated inside, had a black madonna and stained glass windows, and was worthy of being a cathedral at the top of a mountain. But it's also a tourist attraction, complete with pastry shop, restaurant and exercise area, so around the side and to the back of the church is an open-air bazaar where I bought some keychains whose theme was "pre-Colombian" AmerIndian culture --a miniature Aztec priest and another being a miniature aztec headdress.

After going through the bazaar and passing the food stands is a path leading to the top of the mountain. The very top is gated off with a huge antannae, but I got as close as I could. Like I said visiting Monserrate is the most touristy thing anyone could do in Bogota, but it was worth it and I recommend it to anyone.

After coming down my driver and I got a quick bite and I got myself a shower and my driver showed me where he lived and introduced me to some of his people. He plied me with more questions about comparisons between Colombia and the US, which seemed to be is favorite subject. After a while we went back to the T-Zone. This time I wanted to visit Pisces, but literally half the club was empty, and the vibe was low so since I'd had such a good time at Troya's we went back. A Venezuelan girl who I'd had my eye on the night before wasn't in sight but before long I was buttonholed by a nice negra from Cali named Alexandra. Round face, awesome figure. We went upstairs for an hour. Took a little doing but she got the job done --albeit not until after hitting me up more than once for an extra 6 mil. She and I went at it, then in the end she reverse-cowgirl'd me to a happy ending.

As I was coming down the stairs from my session my driver was coming up the stairs with a female. I made the rounds on the floor and saw some contenders and while I knew it was too soon for me to go again I most interested in satisfying my need for excess. Then I saw the "Venezuelan" I'd been looking for, she said her name was Erica, and I wanted to cross her off the list. Upon questioning she told me she wasn't a Venezuelan at all, rather a Colombiana. Not sure how I got mixed up on that one.

Despite my, and her, best efforts there was lots of hammering, but no leche. I was proud of my effort, but had to face facts that I'd asked a tad too much of Kent Jr too soon. I'd tried to schedule some appointments with some of the girls outside of the club, but they all gave the same inflated figure 250 k. Reminded me of the puta mafia in Jaco. I didn't even need my driver to tell me that was a no-go. I had one more day in the city and was curious about how worthwhile the girls standing in the doorways might be, so made a mental note to try one the next day.

The altitude fatigue and sessions had left me bone tired, so when I went to bed I was out like a light.

Sunday, August 27th.

Woke up, got a slice of pizza from a street vendor breakfast and then dozed off again. I realized that I would be flying out to Medellin the very next day and hadn't done my laundry. Being Sunday in a Catholic country I feared the place would be largely shut down and it was. I called my driver and he said he'd try to help. After visiting a couple of places that were closed we finally found one that was open for a few more hours- Easy Lavanderia. The cost was pricey for a load, 22 k, but they were the only game in town. After taking my clothes back to my habitacion and packing them we went back to the old standby, Zona-T.

Tryoa's was played out, and Pisces was dead --for the record the girls said 120 k for 30 minutes. I passed. Too many girls who are as pretty (and much prettier) to pay that.

Then I remembered that I wanted to try some street meat. Walked around the block and spied a buxom mature chick who called herself Gina. She had an easy smile and wore yoga pants and a barely-there spaghetti strap top with huge implants. 2 hours for 150 mil. I probably could have negotiated her down, but I wasn't in the mood to haggle so I agreed. Just behind where she stood were the rooms. Speaking of which the room was cold, but I had been briefed on what to expect and knew that you had to provide your own heat. Strangely the room had a TV in it playing porn of course. They could have kept the TV, how about a space heater and some towels!

Gina got naked and while her body had some miles on it she made it a point to flirt and be extra playful. The older Colombianas tend to try to make up for their lack of youth with an abundance of friendliness. Works for me.

I got my first leche in missionary, and after a brief siesta and some more horizontal tango Gina wound up finishing me manually. Hey a win's a win.

I said good night to my driver and told him I'd be staying in touch. Hopefully next time I would carve out more time to chat with his folks and associates and hopefully make more friends. He offered that if I ever needed a place to crash while in Medellin I was welcome at his place.

I went home to sleep and get ready for my morning flight to Medellin where I'd start off by staying at the Mansion (M1) for a couple of nights. In closing Bogota turned out to be a really great trip, though again, it's always best to cultivate local contacts, and it's mandatory for folks who speak little Spanish --I wouldn't visit Colombia at all if you speak zero-Spanish. I will definitely visit again, though this time I would make sure that my accomodations are definitely guest friendly. I passed many a hotel both in Bogota and Medellin and most of them had some sort of signage up saying they don't allow sex tourism, and around town you frequently see signs regarding child exploitation and the like. Seems somebody is concerned Colombia may get a reputation and they want to push back against that publicly. Considering their how long and ghastly the drug wars were there it's understandable.

Sorry for not having pics, but that's another thing. Maybe it's just me but seemed the girls were very averse to pictures. Almost like they were working from a script they all said the same thing, they were terrified of being put up on the internet, or they had some horror story about an amiga who got exposed by some careless dude online. I wanted to insist on more than one occasion, but then I always thought about how that might seem to them. Perhaps if I had gotten a girl back to my rental they would have been more open to it, but alas. As it is Colombia made a good first impression.

From here it was on to Medellin for a week. Will be posting that part soon.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jicks;2092423]Looks like Trannies are allowed only at Calle 20 and Carrera 15 within Santa Fe. There are many girls too in both streets but confirm before approaching.[/QUOTE]Actually trannies can go wherever they want. But generally are on 22nd and there's a big trannie stroll a couple blocks south. They do wander through Santa Fe's main red light area sometimes.

[QUOTE=Cm6363;2092694]Solid report. Add Atunes for the best daytime club in Santa Fe. COP 60 K for 15 minutes. No flexibility on the time. Troya asking price is 70 K, but you can negotiate 60 K for 20 minutes. Less selection, but good quality. Aguila beers are more expensive at Troya COP 8 K vs Atunes COP 3 K or 4 K.[/QUOTE]I always will tip the maid 1-2+ mil as we walk into the room-- I think you may buy a few extra minutes. Sometimes anyhow.

[QUOTE=Cm6363;2092684]By the way, another local told me he was robbed at knifepoint during the day once in Santa Fe. I've never had any problems, but it is better to be aware.[/QUOTE]One thing guys take for granted when traveling to Latin America is that you can be robbed at gun / knife-point anywhere at anytime of the day when by yourself or small group. If you don't accept that you should not travel. Don't kid yourself that staying in El Poblado will keep you safe. Safest method (short of never leaving your room LOL) is to taxi everywhere and walk as little as possible, day or night. I did something riskier than I usually do in September. I walked from Plaza Botero to New Life. It was late morning about 11 am and there were some colorful characters walking east on calle 52 I think. I have never before walked as much in Centro much so I wanted to check more of it out. This trip I walked more, and it's overrated. Taxi (Make that Uber) everywhere going forward. That's if they can find me, they seem to get lost too often. And when you try to cancel, they want to charge you. You just dispute it and it credits you. One dumbass driver did circles for 20 minutes a few blocks from me, so finally I canceled.

Hi all,

I have a layover in Bogota of about 10 hrs reaching 6 am. And I know zero Spanish. I am of Indian origin so brown. Will the brown help?

What would be my best bet. I am looking for a cheap hotel to rest for couple of hours near some daytime action as I have to skip town around 3 pm.

Thanks all in advance.

SOMM.

We all would like to meet genuine amateurs giving GFE sex but that we could meet as easily as hard core pros. I have good news: yes it's possible in Bogota, as I discovered recently the best kept secret of the city! Diana Bustos is a well-known sex expert in Colombia with TV or radio shows. She has an agency [URL]http://agencialibid.com/.[/URL] You have to call her on 321 51 60 897 to make an appointment (no Whatsapp). You will meet her in her apartment close to Mundo Aventura for a half hour interview where she will make your profile and explain the rules. You pay 50 000 and you are member of Libid's agency. The interview can be done also through skype. Diana Bustos doesn't speak English however. Once you are member of the agency, whenever you want, you call her at least 24 hours before to meet someone with the profile you are looking for. She will offer a couple of options you can check previously on her website. As a member you have access to the pics of female members. If it's OK for you, she makes the arrangement and you will meet the person you are looking for in her apartment. The one that took initiative for the meeting (usually the men but not always) has to pay the agency 120 000 for a couple of hours sex in the apartment, 130 000 in a motel or 140 000 in a swing club. She also organizes sometimes events for group sex. Any combination is possible and not only heterosexual: just ask for it and she will try to fix it. Girls are supposed to be genuine amateurs looking for sex and receive no money for it. True or not, it's a unique concept and nowhere else you will get a couple of hours of genuine GFE sex for just 120 000.

What part of the city is Mundo Aventura located and have you used this service?

Thanks for all your helpful tips!

[QUOTE=Routard;2093044]We all would like to meet genuine amateurs giving GFE sex but that we could meet as easily as hard core pros. I have good news: yes it's possible in Bogota, as I discovered recently the best kept secret of the city! Diana Bustos is a well-known sex expert in Colombia with TV or radio shows. She has an agency [URL]http://agencialibid.com/.[/URL] You have to call her on 321 51 60 897 to make an appointment (no Whatsapp). You will meet her in her apartment close to Mundo Aventura for a half hour interview where she will make your profile and explain the rules. You pay 50 000 and you are member of Libid's agency. The interview can be done also through skype. Diana Bustos doesn't speak English however. Once you are member of the agency, whenever you want, you call her at least 24 hours before to meet someone with the profile you are looking for. She will offer a couple of options you can check previously on her website. As a member you have access to the pics of female members. If it's OK for you, she makes the arrangement and you will meet the person you are looking for in her apartment. The one that took initiative for the meeting (usually the men but not always) has to pay the agency 120 000 for a couple of hours sex in the apartment, 130 000 in a motel or 140 000 in a swing club. She also organizes sometimes events for group sex. Any combination is possible and not only heterosexual: just ask for it and she will try to fix it. Girls are supposed to be genuine amateurs looking for sex and receive no money for it. True or not, it's a unique concept and nowhere else you will get a couple of hours of genuine GFE sex for just 120 000.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Routard;2093044]We all would like to meet genuine amateurs giving GFE sex but that we could meet as easily as hard core pros. I have good news: yes it's possible in Bogota, as I discovered recently the best kept secret of the city! Diana Bustos is a well-known sex expert in Colombia with TV or radio shows. She has an agency [URL]http://agencialibid.com/.[/URL] You have to call her on 321 51 60 897 to make an appointment (no Whatsapp). You will meet her in her apartment close to Mundo Aventura for a half hour interview where she will make your profile and explain the rules. You pay 50 000 and you are member of Libid's agency. The interview can be done also through skype. Diana Bustos doesn't speak English however. Once you are member of the agency, whenever you want, you call her at least 24 hours before to meet someone with the profile you are looking for. She will offer a couple of options you can check previously on her website. As a member you have access to the pics of female members. If it's OK for you, she makes the arrangement and you will meet the person you are looking for in her apartment. The one that took initiative for the meeting (usually the men but not always) has to pay the agency 120 000 for a couple of hours sex in the apartment, 130 000 in a motel or 140 000 in a swing club. She also organizes sometimes events for group sex. Any combination is possible and not only heterosexual: just ask for it and she will try to fix it. Girls are supposed to be genuine amateurs looking for sex and receive no money for it. True or not, it's a unique concept and nowhere else you will get a couple of hours of genuine GFE sex for just 120 000.[/QUOTE]My goodness, what a find! I presume, though, that girls who're into this for fun and no pay, would be seeking, well... Certain physical characteristics? :)

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3865-Bogota-FAQ&p=2092596[/URL]#post2092596.

[QUOTE=SexoOMyMind;2093026]Hi all,

I have a layover in Bogota of about 10 hrs reaching 6 am. And I know zero Spanish. I am of Indian origin so brown. Will the brown help?

What would be my best bet. I am looking for a cheap hotel to rest for couple of hours near some daytime action as I have to skip town around 3 pm.

Thanks all in advance.

SOMM.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SexoOMyMind;2093026]Hi all,

I have a layover in Bogota of about 10 hrs reaching 6 am. And I know zero Spanish. I am of Indian origin so brown. Will the brown help?

What would be my best bet. I am looking for a cheap hotel to rest for couple of hours near some daytime action as I have to skip town around 3 pm.

Thanks all in advance.

SOMM.[/QUOTE]Stay at Ibus Museo- that is about a mile from Santa Fe. If you need a guide PM me.

[QUOTE=DrPorn;2093142]What part of the city is Mundo Aventura located and have you used this service?

Thanks for all your helpful tips![/QUOTE]Mundo Adventura is located in Zona industrial near Galan- that is about 5-6 miles West of Centro.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2093175]My goodness, what a find! I presume, though, that girls who're into this for fun and no pay, would be seeking, well... Certain physical characteristics? :)[/QUOTE]I cannot answer on the motivation of each girl in the agency. Just give it a try, I'm pretty sure you will match with some of the profiles of the agency.

Went to this place two weeks ago after stumbling over the funny hp: [URL]www.adrianaysusgolosas.net[/URL].

Easy to get there if you use the transmilenio, getting out at Alquieria (route G). It's right at the station.

I don't speak a lot of Spanish so I learned what I wanted to have before going there. I chose one hour with anal and rimming, price was 210 mil, paid in advance. Adriana will show you the available girls on a tablet.

I chose Taliana and I didn't regret it. You can see some videos of her on the hp.

Taliana started with a sensitive BBBJ, followed by a nice rimming. After that she rode me anal reverse cowgirl (with condom). After about 15 minutes in several positions we stopped fucking and continued with a BBBJ again. The BJ was nice again, with pussy and asshole in reach to play with. After a while the BJ turned into mouthfucking till CIM.

I repeated the next day, again with Taliana and had a similar good time though she doesn't speek a word english.

[QUOTE=Cm6363;2092684]I've been told several times by locals, better to stay on or to the north of Calle 22. (North is to the right if you are walking from the Transmillenio. The Calle numbers are rising.).

Personally, having walked through the area you mentioned during the day with a local, I highly doubt you will find a gem around Calle 20 that you wouldn't find in the relatively safer area.

By the way, another local told me he was robbed at knifepoint during the day once in Santa Fe. I've never had any problems, but it is better to be aware.[/QUOTE]Yep. Be Careful. It's funny sometimes I can't believe the scene I'm walking through, I mean like so ghetto.

About Santa Fe South (below 22nd) You are slumming. I think the going price is $25 m -35 mi. Although there can be some attractive MILFs and new 18+ sometimes-- I do recall.

[QUOTE=Queens35;2092799]One thing guys take for granted when traveling to Latin America is that you can be robbed at gun / knife-point anywhere at anytime of the day when by yourself or small group. If you don't accept that you should not travel. Don't kid yourself that staying in El Poblado will keep you safe. Safest method (short of never leaving your room LOL) is to taxi everywhere and walk as little as possible, day or night. I did something riskier than I usually do in September. I walked from Plaza Botero to New Life. It was late morning about 11 am and there were some colorful characters walking east on calle 52 I think. I have never before walked as much in Centro much so I wanted to check more of it out. This trip I walked more, and it's overrated. Taxi (Make that Uber) everywhere going forward. That's if they can find me, they seem to get lost too often. And when you try to cancel, they want to charge you. You just dispute it and it credits you. One dumbass driver did circles for 20 minutes a few blocks from me, so finally I canceled.[/QUOTE]You trust taxi drivers a lot more than I do. People are regularly robbed or murdered by taxicunts.

[QUOTE=Cm6363;2092694]Solid report. Add Atunes for the best daytime club in Santa Fe. COP 60 K for 15 minutes. No flexibility on the time. Troya asking price is 70 K, but you can negotiate 60 K for 20 minutes. Less selection, but good quality. Aguila beers are more expensive at Troya COP 8 K vs Atunes COP 3 K or 4 K.[/QUOTE]Is Atunes open again? I'd heard it had closed / been closed.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2092108]What do they say that they have SEEN happen there? I have been walking (most of the time alone) around downtown and Santa Fe at 3 am for the 12 years that I have been going to Colombia and have never seen a damn thing happen.[/QUOTE]There are a couple of guys here who've never seen a problem in Santa Fe ever. I don't know how they've managed it. Even a lot of the WGs clear out before nightfall. Caveat Emptor.

I have been traveling to Central and South America for many years. I almost never get drunk and I am always vigilant on the street. The only problem I have had personally is in Costa Rica about 10 years ago. I was walking with my date for the night from the Del Rey, to my room in the Morazan. When 2 street kids, maybe 13 or 14 years old snuck up behind me and grabbed the chain I was wearing (inside my shirt) from the back of my neck. When I spun around to chase them I was blocked by 2 guys much older and bigger then the punks. I always look at everyone in my vicinity now and if you are very aware you can see when there is a group working the area. They are always scanning the area for a possible victim and if you are really observant, you can catch them nodding each other. I stare them down at that point so they are aware I am onto them and so far so good. One other time does to come to mind in Rio. I was waiting for the cabbie to get the bags out of the trunk in front of my apartment on Ave Atlantia, I had a twenty in my hand to pay the taxi when a dude on a bike whizzed by and tried to snatch the 20 out of my hand. I held on too tight for him to get it but he came out of nowhere and it happened in a flash. My buddy was walking alone from Help around 3 am to the apartment, about 3 blocks, when a guy jumped out between the parked cars on Atlantica, with a knife. My buddy is a young guy and he just outran the thug.

OK now Colombia. Bogota can be very dangerous, the further south you go, the more dangerous it gets. I have personal knowledge of 2 events that happened to personal friends of mine.

My novia's father was walking to the store in his Barrio, Green City near the frontier. When 2 guys approached him only blocks away from his house and shot him twice, one in the leg and one in the head. This was months ago and he is still in the hospital after weeks in a coma. And he is a LOCAL in his neighborhood. The other happened to a sweet x-novia of mine near her apartment in Salitre. 2 girls started to talk to her on the street, then started to beat her when a dude joined in. They took all her clothes right off her body in the street, her shoes and her purse. They also beat her up pretty good.

So, the moral of the story is it can happen to anyone and you never know when! These locals walked the same area often without incident but they too became victims. So be safe, call uber, get out of risky places before it gets too late. Don't walk alone. Nothing can ruin a trip like a mugging, or a trip to the hospital. I love Colombia and I feel safe 95% of the time but you need to be aware.

So Thursday I fly in, and get in around 11 pm. I flyout on Friday at 11 pm. Really short visit, can squeeze in 2 or 3 girls. I am looking to stay in Usaquéand. How is that area? The girls I am looking to hook up with are from [URL]photoprepagos.com[/URL]. I will post the links and you tell me if you have any experience with them. Also, I dumped my old contacts for Lisa Ann. She gave me her direct number too. If anyone has it, PM me with it.

[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/el-cuerpo-de-tus-fantasias-ven-y-conoceme-mis-encantos-te-enloqueceran-id-yqxax[/URL]

[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/sexy-morena-un-manjar-para-ti-no-te-quedes-sin-probarme-bella-veterana-para-ti-id-hx8mg[/URL]

[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/hermosa-mujer-apasionada-desea-que-le-hagas-el-amor-id-2r8xm[/URL]

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[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/soy-una-rica-y-sensual-escort-te-espero-totalmente-dispuesta-para-ti-id-7br6g[/URL]

[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/soy-una-mujer-muy-ardiente-me-encanta-el-sexo-y-cumplir-todas-tus-fantasias-disponible-las-24-hora-id-gwv64[/URL]

[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/soy-una-mujer-muy-ardiente-me-encanta-el-sexo-y-cumplir-todas-tus-fantasias-disponible-las-24-horas-id-6naww[/URL]

[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/complaciente-sensual-y-muy-guapa-cale%C3%B1a-que-sera-una-mas-de-tus-fantasias-eroticas-id-88jqa[/URL]

[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/soy-una-chica-venezolana-recien-llegada-a-bogota-para-complacerte-en-todo-id-2r3s2[/URL]

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2095590]My novia's father was walking to the store in his Barrio, Green City near the frontier. When 2 guys approached him only blocks away from his house and shot him twice, one in the leg and one in the head.[/QUOTE]We can give 1 million stories about things happening in 1 million places to 1 million other people. My car was broken into at night when I was a teenager and in the house asleep. My cousin got sliced on the back of his neck by a drug dealer in Atlanta when he used to smoke crack. Still, none of this has anything to do with Santa Fe where I have been numerous times each year for the last 12 years and never seen anything happen. I have sent friends there that don't even speak Spanish and they have never come back saying they had seen something happen either. Has anyone here witnessed any incidents in the Santa Fe section of Bogota? I am in no way saying not to be vigilant. I am very vigilant anywhere that I go. Yet and still I have not seen anything happen to anyone in Santa Fe. Not talking Zona Rosa, not talking Suba, but talking Santa Fe.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2096082]We can give 1 million stories about things happening in 1 million places to 1 million other people. My car was broken into at night when I was a teenager and in the house asleep. My cousin got sliced on the back of his neck by a drug dealer in Atlanta when he used to smoke crack. Still, none of this has anything to do with Santa Fe where I have been numerous times each year for the last 12 years and never seen anything happen. I have sent friends there that don't even speak Spanish and they have never come back saying they had seen something happen either. Has anyone here witnessed any incidents in the Santa Fe section of Bogota? I am in no way saying not to be vigilant. I am very vigilant anywhere that I go. Yet and still I have not seen anything happen to anyone in Santa Fe. Not talking Zona Rosa, not talking Suba, but talking Santa Fe.[/QUOTE]Unless they were the victim, it's unlikely anyone has seen anything. There are some very good reasons for that and they have nothing to do with how safe or secure an area is.

The biggest reason is simple math. Lets say you spent 40 hours per year walking in Santa Fe, round it up to 500 hours walking around Santa Fe. During those 12 years you spent 0. 47% of the time where you had any chance to see anything and that 500 hours is probably much higher than reality.

Also criminals prefer to have numbers on their side. They're less likely to attack when witnesses are around, or in places with a nearby police presence.

One last reason depends on the individual. I never get bothered. Probably because I always know where I'm going. I'm not standing around looking for street signs while trying to find my route on my phone. Even if I have no idea where I'm at, I still walk with confidence. I don't gawk, I don't act nervous. Even though it's impossible for me to blend in, I look like I belong. For someone choosing a victim, I don't look like an easy target.

If you feel comfortable walking Santa Fe at all hours, not just between clubs, but the back streets as well, Santa Fe is probably safe for you. It will probably always be safe, for you. If it is unsafe for you, it will only happen one time.

If you don't feel safe in Santa Fe, you shouldn't be walking around Santa Fe. Take a taxi in and out, keep to the main streets and keep your wits about you.

I've spent a few hours RTFF and have a few questions.

There are two experiences I am seeking on this trip. SW's and drop dead beautiful provider. I have learned mongering that I like SW because of the variety of what you may find and their willingness to do things (best SW I ever had was in Pattaya-DD's (natural), anal and a great attitude. I also want an experience with a lovely provider as well.

With that said I know I need to stay in the Santa Fe area for SW's. That way I can walk and sample as I like. Can anyone recommend a nice hotel what allows visitors that is within walking distance?

Also regarding finding a lovely provider what would you suggest? Use Photoprepagos or a brothel? And if you recommend a brothel can it be within walking distance or a short cab ride from a recommended hotel in Santa Fe area?

Thanks.

Showdown.

[QUOTE=Showdown;2096163]Can anyone recommend a nice hotel what allows visitors that is within walking distance?[/QUOTE]In Santa Fe the SW are in front of the casas. So if you are doing a normal ST then you go do it right in the casa. No need to go back to your hotel.

Right I'm booked to fly with avenica and my flight has been delayed, so now I won't be landing until eleven pm on a Sunday night. I'll check into my hotel and it will probably be twelve or after. Is that too late to go visiting clubs on a Sunday night.

[QUOTE=JimmyKerry;2096967]Right I'm booked to fly with avenica and my flight has been delayed, so now I won't be landing until eleven pm on a Sunday night. I'll check into my hotel and it will probably be twelve or after. Is that too late to go visiting clubs on a Sunday night.[/QUOTE]It'll be slow, and some clubs don't open on Sundays, but you can definitely find something in Santa Fe. Have fun.

[QUOTE=TravelA;2094035]Went to this place two weeks ago after stumbling over the funny hp: [URL]www.adrianaysusgolosas.net[/URL].

Easy to get there if you use the transmilenio, getting out at Alquieria (route G). It's right at the station.

I don't speak a lot of Spanish so I learned what I wanted to have before going there. I chose one hour with anal and rimming, price was 210 mil, paid in advance. Adriana will show you the available girls on a tablet.

I chose Taliana and I didn't regret it. You can see some videos of her on the hp.

Taliana started with a sensitive BBBJ, followed by a nice rimming. After that she rode me anal reverse cowgirl (with condom). After about 15 minutes in several positions we stopped fucking and continued with a BBBJ again. The BJ was nice again, with pussy and asshole in reach to play with. After a while the BJ turned into mouthfucking till CIM.

I repeated the next day, again with Taliana and had a similar good time though she doesn't speek a word english.[/QUOTE]Very good information sir! How was the selection overall? How many ladies available both times you were there?

[QUOTE=Kib123;2097225]Very good information sir! How was the selection overall? How many ladies available both times you were there?[/QUOTE]Just check the pics of the girls on the website. You wil not see more on site as Adriana shows the available girls on a tablet, TravelA explained it in his post. If you decide not to go, you have to pay 10 000.

Combined Bogota Trip Report: August 30-September 2 and October 2-4.

Given that I have delayed so long in writing my Bogota trip reports, instead, focusing on my Medellin reports, I've decided to just summarize my two Bogota reports into one. It won't have the detail of my usual reports, but hopefully it will give useful information.

Accommodations.

For both trips, I went with AirBnB. The first one was arranged by my Wingman. We ended up staying off of Carrera 15, near Calle 85. It was actually a very nice place. Very modern. All of our female guests were impressed and took photos to "prove" they were there. The second one wasn't as modern, but it had a really nice mood lighting and sound system. This place was off of Carrera 6 near Calle 82.a bit longer walk to Zona Rosa, but not by much.

Transportation.

We pretty much took taxis everywhere we went!

ZONA NORTE.

La Piscina Norte / Casanova.

- Visited first and second trip. Nice selection each time. Didn't stay long first trip. Second trip with wing man, met two cousins. One gorgeous blonde, the other a busty Paisa-looking brunette; Wouldn't budge from 600 k pesos TLN, wouldn't give their numbers, so we passed.

Lido Club.

- Visited first and second trip. Amazing selection each time! Second trip, probably about 60 girls. In the words of the door man—an "uncountable" number of girls. Wing man was speechless. I talked to two. Got the number of one—Yarai (see photo). Amazing girl. A little older—34 I think. Great body, nice and petite with a juicy ass and tits (man made). From Medellin, but a little darker (morena). Got the digits, called her over for a three hour appointment the next day for 350 mil pesos ahead of her going to work that night. All positions were covered, BBBJ, great attitude, great performance! I repeated on my second trip with the same results, although she was a bit more distant due to some personal problems she told me about. No worries. Great provider.

Apertura Via Spa (behind Atlantis Mall).

- Had 8 pretty nice looking girls, neither wing man, nor I picked any, but took note of Veronica among the girls available. Wing man got her number and she came over later that night for an all-nighter. She was pretty hot! Nice Venezuelan girl with glasses, studying medicine while fleeing the turmoil in her country. He said she was awesome in the sack.

Colorin Spa (behind Atlantis Mall).

- Out of 5 girls, the hottest two were another Veronica and a girl named Paola. Didn't pick any of the girls here, although the others were okay too.

CHAPINERO.

La 49 (Calle 49 #13-98).

- Visited first trip. Not too impressed by the line-up, but a lot of 7-8's. Nice atmosphere though. I got chatted up by a 7. 5 Venezolana—Exabel. I ended up taking her out of there. While she was gathering her things, I saw HER! Isabella. Another Venezolana with an amazingly juicy (body). Not fat, just firm and curvy in all the right places. At first glance, you'the likely be turned off by all the tattoos. She has a sh! T ton of them. But, when you get close up on her, she's got the sweetest, innocent looking face I'the ever seen on a working girl. I had asked Exabel to get me her number, to which she agreed, but I had to make sure I got her number so when Exabel went to the back, I approached her and got her number. I took Exabel home that night and she did a good job, but it was peanuts compared to the night I had with Isabella later. She came over mid-afternoon and we fucked like drunk monkeys—she pulled two nuts out of me! She was amazing in the sack. Did whatever I asked, including photos and videos. I oiled up her big, juicy ass and tits both as I fucked her from behind and when she rode me doggystyle. See photos and video. She just had a great attitude and was in it to please. Afterwards, we went to dinner in Zona T, and then she took off to go to La 49. Highly recommended. I would see her again on my second trip!

Pussy House (Calle 61 #13-64).

- Visited first trip. Not impressed. Me and a couple of other friends visited the last hour before closing and the selection was pretty bad. Nothing that I would f**k with your dick. A couple of round, aggressive girls tried to pressure us and tried to order drinks on our tab, but we weren't having that sh! T. Departed when the lights came on.

SANTA FE.

Paisa's (Carrera 16 a #23-58).

- Paisa's was a good experience. It was my first time ever going there and my friends' first chica experience in Santa Fe, Bogota or Colombia. Got there about 8 pm with my three friends. Had a couple of small tables near the bathroom. The guys were all smitten by the girls that were coming by them, but I kept telling them to hold out for better because all their girls were average. Then, I noticed all the best looking girls were on the other side of the club. When I saw her, I got up without saying a word and went over to her.

O Salome' (first trip): I approached her from behind and grabbed her arm and told her to come with me. She seemed surprised but came with me. We went over to my friends and sat for a drink. All their eyes were bugged out and jaws dropped. I had the best girl in the group! As Salome and I had our drinks, we negotiated for my BBBJ and did the full hour. It was awesome as I explored every inch of her incredible body. Her incredible body fellas! Find her and fuck her. Please! You need this in your life. She is simply a beautiful woman. She gave me her number and we texted for awhile but she has gone off the grid.

Atunes (Carrera 16 a #23-88).

- Visited first and second trips. WHOA! I remember having a great time here when I was in Bogota about 6 years or so ago and now I remember why. Amazingly awesome girls at rock bottom prices. Me and wingman got a medium bottle of Jack Daniels and Coca-Cola and watched the cattle go by. I selected a Blonde haired, blue eyed Paisa from. Pereira—yeah, so you know it was a good time!

O VANESSA (first trip): She was tall (about 5'8" or 5'9") and had an amazing rack and ass that just completed the total package. I watched her and she was definitely one of the most popular girls in the house. I would be getting VERY sloppy seconds, but didn't really care. When I was ready for her, I think she had just finished with a client. I ran my hand through her hair and it was a bit sweaty. I only got the half hour with guaranteed BBBJ and it was amazing. She gave it 110 percent. Very passionate, did a few different positions. I got her number despite her saying she only worked in the club. I told her we could have dinner or go dancing. We texted for a while, but she dropped off the grid (probably just a 'work' phone).

O NO NAME VENEZOLANA (first trip): After her, I pulled a morena Venezolana who just gave off this slutty vibe—walked around licking a lollipop, looking guys up and down, winking, walking with a switch of her ass and looking back over her shoulder. Nice, naturally curvy body, so I pulled the trigger. Sometimes you just have to give 'them what they ask for. It was such a, just animal fuck, I don't think I said three words to her from the time we got to the room until we were done. Didn't even get her name. She did well, though!

O ALEJA (second trip): Tall girl from Bogota. Nice curves, juicy ass. She was the 'nicest' working girl I have ever met. Very polite. Very accommodating, yet very professional. Still went for the BBBJ for a small tip. She got the job done and was into the deed during our time together. I was satisfied and would recommend. I didn't get her number because she said she didn't work outside the club and I didn't push it.

O GABY (second trip): I don't really remember this one. I wrote down that she was from Armenia and had an amazing body, but that's it.

O SOFIA (second trip): I was hypnotized by Sofia's ass! I had to have it. Went for the half hour with BBBJ. She really knew how to use her ass. In every position, she was pushing back with it, grinding. One thing I like doing with the bubble butt girls in Atunes especially is, since they usually have some sort of skirt on, as soon as we get in the room, I push them against the wall, raise the skirt, and start tagging that pussy from behind. I usually just go medieval like that for about 5 minutes and then calm down and go for a more controlled fuck.

O VALERIA (second trip): Baddest *****! Valeria was hands down the best looking girl I have ever seen in Atunes. Period. She was from Cali but had relatively fair skin. She had an ass that just SCREAMED to get fucked and she wore the most amazing outfits (I visited the club 3 times on that trip and pulled the trigger with her on the 3rd because she was so busy). She was and incredible fuck. Didn't seem to fake it, but genuinely enjoyed fucking. She had a bit of an attitude because I didn't tip the maid (I had already tipped her three times that day and was out of small bills), I told her she could tip her out of her money if it was a problem. For that, I think she gave me the wrong phone number when I asked for it. Oh well, her loss!

Fiebre Sex (Carrera 16 a #23-50).

- Actually ended up here after Paisa's on the first trip, but I did not partake. Nice enough selection of about 20 girls or so. It was a little crowded so hard to see the girls and I was annoyed with the waiter constantly bugging me for more drinks. I noticed a lot of the girls would go here after leaving Atunes once it closed.

O PAMELA (second trip): I was (still am) in love. This was one of the most beautiful girls I have ever had the pleasure of. Pleasuring. I think I pulled her for 30 minutes, then another 30 minutes, which for sure was not enough. Not sure if the pictures do her justice, but, the only thing better than her girl-next-door looks was her bubblebutt booty! Whew. I'm having flashbacks. I actually just texted her to invite her on a trip soon. Incredible girl who will give you all you can take.

Troya (Carrera 13 #33 a-27).

- Can't really judge Troya very well. I only went in here because I was following Barbara from Fiebre Sex. It seems the girls go back and forth between at least these two clubs and probably others.

O BARBARA (second trip): I ended up taking her out of there for the night and was disappointed that I had to pay an exit fee. I figured if she was going back and forth, I should not have had to. Oh well, no worries. She was a Venezuelan who, in all fairness, was not the cutest thing in the world. In fact, I'the say she is a bit homely. But, her body would not quit calling me, so I had to answer. She had a nice, firm, tight body. And I had it all to myself for the rest of the night. Really nice, sweet girl with a real desire to please. We fucked for hours and both got our rocks off. Unfortunately, she found out early in the morning that the place she was staying in was broken into and robbed. I felt sorry for her, but was still suspicious that it was some sort of scam. I let her stay a couple of hours longer than I had anticipated (till about 10:30 am), then she figured something out and took off. But, we keep in touch via text and she seems to be fond of me. Or my cash!

Nena's Bogota (Calle 65 #14-37) [URL]www.nenasbogota.com[/URL].

- Visited on the first trip. Great photos on the website. Some of the names are the same in reality, but the girls do not appear to look as good in person. The manager, Stella, is a hottie with a nice bubble butt, but she is not available and admits that the website is not maintained up to date. First place I've been to where the price varies based on whether the girl has had breast implants (operadora) or not. Wing man was the only one in the group of 4 to pick a girl. She was average in my opinion, but had a great, upbeat attitude. There were about 7 or so girls on site.

Mezzanines Massage Parlors (Av. Carrera 15 #104-03,2nd floor).

- Visited on the first trip. Always a must visit. Brought a couple of the guys with me. Found a gem in the one on the side with the eateries (#8 I think), but I forgot her name (may have been Sara or Sandra I don't remember) and didn't select her. Planned to return but never did.

O Ivonne: Ended up pulling Ivonne from #13 for 30 min on-site. She did such a great job, I called her for an overnight appointment, which she performed very well. The whole experience was like a naughty high school encounter. She was a young'and. About 21 yrs old. Petite and curvy how I like them. She laughed and giggled a lot (before I took my pants off, smart asses) and was generally happy overall. She had braces and was very self-conscious during the BBBJ, but with some encouragement, she let her inhibitions go. She was great in all positions. Kept in touch through texting. Says she's working in Mexico now. I highly recommend, but, I get the feeling she'll be pretty cautious in taking on unsolicited clients.

Thank you very much!

What were the prices for sex at the Chapinero & Santa Fe clubs?

[QUOTE=StripperMan;2097640]What were the prices for sex at the Chapinero & Santa Fe clubs?[/QUOTE]Prices are consistent with Routard's Bogota FAQ thread.

Also, for some reason, I can't upload photos. They are all within size limits, but I've tried 7 times and it never works. Anyone else having issues?

Hi all,

I'm totally new to this forum. I'll be traveling to Bogota next week and stay there for about a week (1/29-11/5). If you happen to be in Bogota or live there, PM me if you want to get together & explore Santa Fe, etc. Hope to see you soon!

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2097746]Prices are consistent with Routard's Bogota FAQ thread.

Also, for some reason, I can't upload photos. They are all within size limits, but I've tried 7 times and it never works. Anyone else having issues?[/QUOTE]I've been to the Santa Fe bars, and am aware of what prices are. I wanted to know what you paid. I found it interesting that your long report only included sex prices for a few of the North Zone places.

After a few trips to Bogota, I decided to give the swinger scene a go especially after reading the Bogota List thread. Went to Scarlet located at Cra. 10#54 a-27. It's between Calle 54 and Calle 55 in the alley right next to a small Japanese restaurant and Bogota Burger. Having previously done the strip clubs here, Santa Fe, spas, and low budget brothels, I can say that this spot has been my been my favorite experience and probably the best place for a punter to start in Bogota.

You ring the bell to go in, and while I came prepared with a bathing suit and lock, you really don't need anything besides 40,000 COP. The place is open until 10 PM, and on the day I went, a girl called Stefanie was working. Basically, once you pay 40,000 which covers you for the day and for a condom or two (each costs 2,000 COP and you can bring your own), you get a key to a locker to put your stuff away along with a towel and slides inside the locker. You take a shower and can visit either the steam room or sauna (there are 2 floors). There are also massage rooms where you have sex and a room to watch porn in. After socializing with some of the other guys there, they told me that one just waits in the massage rooms or find a working girl and you can have sex with her. Stefani was very cute with natural tits and a nice ass and I would rate her a 7. We did a decent amount of time after which I just relaxed. I tried to find her again later (because you can go again) but ahe had left for the day around 7 PM (I got there around 5 PM on Monday).

I was told that on other nights like Tuesday through Friday, there are more people (it was only guys when I went), and more than one girl so you are guaranteed to get laid. I'll be heading back this week so will try to report more. Also, for those a bit nervous about using Spanish, I typically monger solo, know just about no Spanish, and am not black nor white with a thin build so if anything, there is nothing dangerous to worry about. You should be ready to social those as the culture here is very warm and for other nights when this place has couples, I was told by the locals that they are very often willing to share.

Fellas,

What exactly is this Sante Fe area that everyone raves about in Bogota? Is it an area similar to La Mayorista in Medellin? I'm interested in visiting Bogota on my next trip to Medellin. I want to stay near casas and street girls who are inexpensive. Please advise.

C5.

Went again to Xcarlet, they had two girls, Jamie and Daniela. The latter was quite attractive with a very nice butt, I'd rate her a solid 7 while Jamie had a pretty face, but was a bit on the chubby. I went with Daniela twice. Setting was a bit different as everybody had sex in the disco room so if you get performance anxiety then this might not be the spot for you since each guy goes one after the other though the second time I went with Daniela, I had a private room because a lot of guys had already left. There were also two other couples and a single woman on the heavier side. To update the old Bogota list, the place is called Xcarlet now instead of Scarlet.

Also reporting on Abadubai for spas (Cra 12 A #77 A-25) - there were only two girls when I went very late. There was a redhead who had a pretty nice ass and pretty face on the paler side if you're into that. Wasn't interested in her so went over to Sensity which I recommend adding to the Bogota list (Calle 77 #13-22). Cute selectiong of women for 180 k COP per hour including full service. Went with a 22 year old called Laura. She had dark hair, decent set of fake tits and a nice ass dressed in a sexy cop uniform. She was okay at massaging but the BJ and sex definitely made up for it. She has some baby scars around the stomach but her face was nice (I'd give it an 8.5). She also allowed for DFK which was nice while pounding her in all positions.

So heading back, sitting in First class! Staying at an airbnb off Avienda Calle 85. Reached out to a duo on photoprepagos and a back up. Plan on hitting spots tomorrow after a little work and more photoprepagos chicas!!

PM with any ideas and tips!

[QUOTE=Bolongo;2098368]So heading back, sitting in First class! Staying at an airbnb off Avienda Calle 85. Reached out to a duo on photoprepagos and a back up. Plan on hitting spots tomorrow after a little work and more photoprepagos chicas!!

PM with any ideas and tips![/QUOTE]Take a taxi around 2:30/3:00 pm to Santa Fe. Specifically, Atunes. Buy a medium bottle of your favorite booze. Watch the eye candy. Select one and fuck her brains out for $15. Repeat at least twice. Thank me.

[QUOTE=StripperMan;2097640]What were the prices for sex at the Chapinero & Santa Fe clubs?[/QUOTE]Sorry brother, I just don't remember. I didn't really think about the prices when I saw some of these girls. I know in Atunes the prices on site were dirt cheap (about $15-20 for the shortest period of time). I can't remember what I paid with Salome at Paisa's. That's the problem with me waiting so long to write the report! I don't think I overpaid in comparison with the prices on the FAQ. I had those in the back of my head when I visited, so I knew what the range was. Sorry, I did the best I could.

[QUOTE=Chris561;2098257]Fellas,

What exactly is this Sante Fe area that everyone raves about in Bogota? Is it an area similar to La Mayorista in Medellin? I'm interested in visiting Bogota on my next trip to Medellin. I want to stay near casas and street girls who are inexpensive. Please advise.

C5.[/QUOTE]Santa Fe is the zona de tolerencia in Bogota. It's like Mayorista, in the way an elephant is like a mouse. Mayorista is 2 blocks of working girls. Santa Fe is about 30 times larger.

[QUOTE=MingMongMang;2097991] Basically, once you pay 40,000 which covers you for the day and for a condom or two (each costs 2,000 COP and you can bring your own), you get a key to a locker to put your stuff away along with a towel and slides inside the locker..[/QUOTE]Sorry boss, you pay 40 k COP and are allowed in then you pay extras for the fucks?

Is there any drinks selection inside?

Cheers.

Yo yo yo, I will be in Bogota all day next Monday. I'm looking for a wing man to show me the ropes and bring me on a tour of the city, if you speak Spanish and English better again and ill gladly look after my win man for the day.

[QUOTE=MingMongMang;2097991] you get a key to a locker to put your stuff away along with a towel and slides inside the locker. You take a shower and can visit either the steam room or sauna (there are 2 floors). There are also massage rooms where you have sex and a room to watch porn in. After socializing with some of the other guys there, they told me that one just waits in the massage rooms or find a working girl and you can have sex with...[/QUOTE]Sounds a lot like a thermas in Rio de Janeiro, but probably not as many options. And certainly less anal! God I love Brazil!

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2098415]Santa Fe is the zona de tolerencia in Bogota. It's like Mayorista, in the way an elephant is like a mouse. Mayorista is 2 blocks of working girls. Santa Fe is about 30 times larger.[/QUOTE]Thanks friend. I finally took the time to read an outstanding FAG about Bogota. I forgot the monger's name who posted it but it truly answered all my questions. I will definitely be visiting Bogota soon.

C5.

Greetings all,

Don Omar here. I'm taking my first trip to Bogota at the beginning of December. I've been mongering about 5 years in Sosua, the. Are. And Aruba. Last year, I met a working girl in Aruba. We connected enough for me to traveled to Bucaramanga to visit her. Had an awesome time. I'm going to meet up with her again, in Bogota. My plan is to spend a couple days with her and send her back home. Then I would like to order some room service and visit Santa Fe. I've been reading the threads and finding bits of information here and there; so I thought I would post it here. If anyone could point me in the right direction, that would be cool. I plan on staying in the Financial District (recommended to me by a friend) but I haven't book my hotel yet. I'm looking for some action on Thursday night, Monday, and Tuesday as I will be occupied the other days. I speak a little Spanish, but not really. Enough for a tourist friendly area. What things, other than the obvious should I negotiate up front?

My biggest question is, what's the best way to order room service? (price) My friend used Tinder and Tagged.

My friend took Uber to Santa Fe. . . . is that the best way to travel there?

I was told it was about $80 to $100 US at the brothels. . . . is that correct?

Like I said, any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks Don.

Nice post. I am saying in La Candelaria over Christmas, looking forward to checking out Santa Fe. All I need is one good one (maybe 2).

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2098415]Santa Fe is the zona de tolerencia in Bogota. It's like Mayorista, in the way an elephant is like a mouse. Mayorista is 2 blocks of working girls. Santa Fe is about 30 times larger.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DonOmar;2100662] My biggest question is, what's the best way to order room service? (price) My friend used Tinder and Tagged.
My friend took Uber to Santa Fe. . . . is that the best way to travel there?
I was told it was about $80 to $100 US at the brothels. . . . is that correct? [/QUOTE]1. Not sure about Tinder or Tagged. Some guys here might recommend and give advice on Seeking Arrangements. Otherwise, most would recommend [URL]Colombiancupid.com[/URL] if you are trying deal with relationship-type, non-pros or semi-pros. I personally would recommend [URL]Photoprepagos.com[/URL] or [URL]Mileroticos.com[/URL].

2. Uber is the safest bet I suppose, but the taxis are generally safe as well (caution must be exercised when catching one from Santa Fe). The problem with Uber is you can't always get the network for some reason. I've spent 15 min trying to connect to Uber, only to end up catching a taxi. Uber is waaay cheaper though. If you don't learn how to read the fare card in the taxis, they may try to "gringo price" you.

3. $80-100 is about right for an hour in the most expensive "brothels" in Zona Norte. However, you can get a very high quality girl in Santa Fe for about $20 for 20-30 minutes.

[QUOTE=Chris561;2098968] I finally took the time to read an outstanding FAG about Bogota. [/QUOTE]We try to stay away from FAGs on this board! Routard's FAQ can be quite helpful though! LOL.

[QUOTE=DonOmar;2100662]Greetings all,

Don Omar here. I'm taking my first trip to Bogota at the beginning of December.

Thanks Don.[/QUOTE]Sorry guys. Please disregard. I just found Routard's FAQ. I'm still learning this site.

Sorry for acting like a noob.

Don.

Does anyone know if the casas / strip clubs in Santa Fe would be open on a religious holiday? I will be in Bogota on Friday December 8th, which I hear is a holiday- Immaculate Conception. Would appreciate any ideas of what to expect (from experience).

Thanks.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2096082]We can give 1 million stories about things happening in 1 million places to 1 million other people. My car was broken into at night when I was a teenager and in the house asleep. My cousin got sliced on the back of his neck by a drug dealer in Atlanta when he used to smoke crack. Still, none of this has anything to do with Santa Fe where I have been numerous times each year for the last 12 years and never seen anything happen. I have sent friends there that don't even speak Spanish and they have never come back saying they had seen something happen either. Has anyone here witnessed any incidents in the Santa Fe section of Bogota? I am in no way saying not to be vigilant. I am very vigilant anywhere that I go. Yet and still I have not seen anything happen to anyone in Santa Fe. Not talking Zona Rosa, not talking Suba, but talking Santa Fe.[/QUOTE]I have had 2 friends robbed there and one other stabbed when he resisted. He survived.

I am planning on spending 2 weeks in Colombia. Should I stay just in Bogota or travel to Cali and Medellin?

[QUOTE=BigDude1;2107382]I am planning on spending 2 weeks in Colombia. Should I stay just in Bogota or travel to Cali and Medellin?[/QUOTE]Everyone has his opinion. You may take 1 day in Bogota if it is a convenient travel connection for you, then split the rest between Cartagena and Medellin. No Cali for you yet on your first trip.

[QUOTE=BigDude1;2107382]I am planning on spending 2 weeks in Colombia. Should I stay just in Bogota or travel to Cali and Medellin?[/QUOTE]What are you planning on doing in Colombia for 2 weeks? There's no way you're going to run out of women to have sex with, in either Bogota or Medellin, in 2 weeks. What are your plans that require more than one city?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2107532]What are you planning on doing in Colombia for 2 weeks? There's no way you're going to run out of women to have sex with, in either Bogota or Medellin, in 2 weeks. What are your plans that require more than one city?[/QUOTE]Ditto that comment, with all the chicas I wonder why us guys were not designed with 5 dicks, but after consideration even if we had 5 dicks I would be posting the thought of why we were not created with 10 dicks, jejejejeje.

TTM.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2107532]What are you planning on doing in Colombia for 2 weeks? There's no way you're going to run out of women to have sex with, in either Bogota or Medellin, in 2 weeks. What are your plans that require more than one city?[/QUOTE]I never was in Colombia before and always wanted to go. I prefer to stay at the new places longer than a few days so I could really understand it.

Anybody got a beat on the maximum number of devices you can arrive with at El Dorado airport?

On my next trip to Bogota, I will be arriving with a personal tablet & two phones. I would like to bring in at least one additional phone & one additional tablet, or 5-6 devices total. I figure I can put two of the phones on my person, and put 3-4 devices in my luggage (hopefully). I know that Airport Security requires all luggage be scanned including personal items like purses, etc, but they are much more lax about any pat downs on the body. I'm wondering at what point they say too many and require you pay taxes on them.

*I want to bring in these extra 2-3 devices as barter chips for my lady friends. With black Friday here, there are several devices I can buy cheap and double my money with in "chica capital". I just need to get them into Bogota.

I like the way you think.

[QUOTE=StripperMan;2108079]Anybody got a beat on the maximum number of devices you can arrive with at El Dorado airport?

On my next trip to Bogota, I will be arriving with a personal tablet & two phones. I would like to bring in at least one additional phone & one additional tablet, or 5-6 devices total. I figure I can put two of the phones on my person, and put 3-4 devices in my luggage (hopefully). I know that Airport Security requires all luggage be scanned including personal items like purses, etc, but they are much more lax about any pat downs on the body. I'm wondering at what point they say too many and require you pay taxes on them.

*I want to bring in these extra 2-3 devices as barter chips for my lady friends. With black Friday here, there are several devices I can buy cheap and double my money with in "chica capital". I just need to get them into Bogota.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jbj64;2108961]I like the way you think.[/QUOTE]Thanks man.

I have been researching El Dorado Airport's regulations for 2 days, and I can not find anything definitive. I'm not surprised as Bogota & it's airport seem to be going thru a lot of changes right now, but I can't even find how much I would be taxed for any excessive phone or tablet.

Well here's my deal. I'm going to bring in 2 Ipad's & 3 phones; 1 Ipad & 2 phones are my personal items, the remaining Ipad & phone will be chica capital. I plan to pack the 2 Ipads (both 9.7 inch screens) in my carry-on luggage, and pack the 3 phones on my person. I'm confident I will get the phones through the arrival checkpoint. My luggage will have to go through the x-ray machine, and they will see 2 tablets. If questioned, I can just say one is for my personal use, and the other is for work?

**I believe it is fairly common for people to travel with multiple devices, I. E. Laptop, tablet and a phone or two?

**I guess worse case is I pay a tax on the tablet and / or phone?

Hi fellow mongers in Bogotá,

Does anybody know if the Forty Nine Club is closed? Seems the website is down.

Many thanks for any advise.

El Cock.

[QUOTE=StripperMan;2109166]Thanks man.

I have been researching El Dorado Airport's regulations for 2 days, and I can not find anything definitive. I'm not surprised as Bogota & it's airport seem to be going thru a lot of changes right now, but I can't even find how much I would be taxed for any excessive phone or tablet.

Well here's my deal. I'm going to bring in 2 Ipad's & 3 phones; 1 Ipad & 2 phones are my personal items, the remaining Ipad & phone will be chica capital. I plan to pack the 2 Ipads (both 9.7 inch screens) in my carry-on luggage, and pack the 3 phones on my person. I'm confident I will get the phones through the arrival checkpoint. My luggage will have to go through the x-ray machine, and they will see 2 tablets. If questioned, I can just say one is for my personal use, and the other is for work?

**I believe it is fairly common for people to travel with multiple devices, I. E. Laptop, tablet and a phone or two?

**I guess worse case is I pay a tax on the tablet and / or phone?[/QUOTE]I don't remember they x-ray at the airport. Panama City x-ray every luggage and that creates a huge line leaving custom.

[QUOTE=WindAngel;2109271]I don't remember they x-ray at the airport. Panama City x-ray every luggage and that creates a huge line leaving custom.[/QUOTE]They do x-ray at Eldorado as you leave.

[QUOTE=WindAngel;2109271]I don't remember they x-ray at the airport. Panama City x-ray every luggage and that creates a huge line leaving custom.[/QUOTE]Same deal in Bogota. They x-ray after you're done with immigration and hand your customs form over to the customs officer. No idea what they'd do to electronics.

BTW, this stuff is pre-scanned as well. Not sure what the system is to tag you if you have something suspicious. But a bunch of tablets / phones should be fine. Put them in your carry-on if you want.

[QUOTE=ElCock;2109236]Hi fellow mongers in Bogot,

Does anybody know if the Forty Nine Club is closed? Seems the website is down.

Many thanks for any advise.

El Cock.[/QUOTE]It's open.

[QUOTE=WindAngel;2109271]I don't remember they x-ray at the airport. Panama City x-ray every luggage and that creates a huge line leaving custom.[/QUOTE]El Dorado X-Rays every bag as your last step before you exit outside. I have brought in flat screen TV's, 2 Iphones, tablets and multiple chica gifts. There is usually some military and airport personnel stationed at the X-Ray but in dozens of trips thru El Dorado, no one has ever batted an eye at my stuff. I always bring my receipts with me because if they do stop me for taxes on the stuff, at least I'll pay tax on the USA Prices. I wouldn't worry about it.

[QUOTE=BigDude1;2107382]I am planning on spending 2 weeks in Colombia. Should I stay just in Bogota or travel to Cali and Medellin?[/QUOTE]I'm a fan of setting up camp once. Hate packing and unpacking, and I try to limit the number of trips thru airports. I would start in Bogota, so much to see and do it could take a few days before you get the lay of the land. There are about 4 + Million women in Bogota so I think your talent pool is sufficient. LOL Cali is hot, and I don't like hot unless there's a beach nearby. Also speaking Spanish is a definite concern in Cali. Cartagena is hot, humid and I'm not a fan of the Ctg. Beaches. I have so many amazing women in Bogota that I have yet to get to Medellin but I have heard nothing but great things about it. The great thing about Colombia is if your not really feeling Bogota, you can get a very reasonable flight to any other city, even if you book it a day or so before. My choice would be Medellin as an alternate. Happy trails and be safe.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2109466]El Dorado X-Rays every bag as your last step before you exit outside. I have brought in flat screen TV's, 2 Iphones, tablets and multiple chica gifts. There is usually some military and airport personnel stationed at the X-Ray but in dozens of trips thru El Dorado, no one has ever batted an eye at my stuff. I always bring my receipts with me because if they do stop me for taxes on the stuff, at least I'll pay tax on the USA Prices. I wouldn't worry about it.[/QUOTE]You have brought in at least 4 devices at one time in the last 6 months?

Devices being any combination of phones, tablets, & laptops. Exclude camera equipment, any perfumes, etc.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2109467]I'm a fan of setting up camp once. Hate packing and unpacking, and I try to limit the number of trips thru airports. I would start in Bogota, so much to see and do it could take a few days before you get the lay of the land. There are about 4 + Million women in Bogota so I think your talent pool is sufficient. LOL Cali is hot, and I don't like hot unless there's a beach nearby. Also speaking Spanish is a definite concern in Cali. Cartagena is hot, humid and I'm not a fan of the Ctg. Beaches. I have so many amazing women in Bogota that I have yet to get to Medellin but I have heard nothing but great things about it. The great thing about Colombia is if your not really feeling Bogota, you can get a very reasonable flight to any other city, even if you book it a day or so before. My choice would be Medellin as an alternate. Happy trails and be safe.[/QUOTE]For a first visit, there are 3 choices, equally good, depending on preferences, for mongering.

If you like hot beaches and very late nights, Cartagena is the best spot. They aren't world-class beaches, but it's the best combination of women and beaches in Colombia.

If you want a comfortable temperature with late night and afternoon action, pick Medellin. Depending on airfare, it's the best value in Colombia.

If you're not bothered by cold nights, or prefer daytime options, Bogota is waiting. There's also plenty of non-mongering activities available.

I'm not saying you can't get daytime fun in Cartagena, or that there is no nighttime action in Bogota. Each city can be entertaining day or night.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2109467]I'm a fan of setting up camp once. Hate packing and unpacking, and I try to limit the number of trips thru airports. I would start in Bogota, so much to see and do it could take a few days before you get the lay of the land. There are about 4 + Million women in Bogota so I think your talent pool is sufficient. LOL Cali is hot, and I don't like hot unless there's a beach nearby. Also speaking Spanish is a definite concern in Cali. Cartagena is hot, humid and I'm not a fan of the Ctg. Beaches. I have so many amazing women in Bogota that I have yet to get to Medellin but I have heard nothing but great things about it. The great thing about Colombia is if your not really feeling Bogota, you can get a very reasonable flight to any other city, even if you book it a day or so before. My choice would be Medellin as an alternate. Happy trails and be safe.[/QUOTE]Is Bogota mostly a casa, strip club or escort scene or are there a lot of semi-pros and facebook girls to hook up with in Bogota?

And if there is a semipro scene, is there anyway to get a jump start into it?

It has taken me a couple years of working facebook in Medellin to get where I am today. Hate the idea of starting all over again.

But I would like to check out Bogota one day if there is some way of getting into the semipro scene without a lot of leg work.

Went to SF last night. So many girls everywhere, Lotsa Choice.

Spent some time in Lyon, It was Fantastic. There are a Bunch of hot Venezuelans there 7-9's. I was dirty dancing with 2 super cute girls. Ended up hooking up with Alejandra a cute 22 yo Julia Roberts Look alike. Paid her $70 mil. She was very compliant a little standoffish. But when I started boning her hard she was liking it. I was pulling her hair.

As always. The clubs were packed with a lot of hotties. Saw 2 or 3 guy fucking girls on stage at Venus- the girls all cheering. Anyway. It's all good!

One thing I have not been able to find is a good hotel with close proximity to Santa Fe. I've seen mentioned the Oceania Comfort hotel but can't find any info on it. Anyone knows a good 3/4 star hotel in the Santa Fe area?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2110597]One thing I have not been able to find is a good hotel with close proximity to Santa Fe. I've seen mentioned the Oceania Comfort hotel but can't find any info on it. Anyone knows a good 3/4 star hotel in the Santa Fe area?[/QUOTE]Museo Ibus is good Girl friendly-but small rooms. Also good Air BNBs.

Can anyone recommend me a hotel that is less than 50 k COP a night? Hopefully it has good Wifi at least in the lobby. I don't mind if it is in a not so great neighbourhood. Proximity to chicas would be a plus.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2110597]One thing I have not been able to find is a good hotel with close proximity to Santa Fe. I've seen mentioned the Oceania Comfort hotel but can't find any info on it. Anyone knows a good 3/4 star hotel in the Santa Fe area?[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.hotelexpoinn.com/[/URL] Hotel Expo Inn Embajada (3 star).

Thanks for the hotel recommendations. I looked at Santa Fe SWs on youtube and saw some that I definitely would like to session. Trying my best to complete a project so I can get there before Christmas.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2109989]Went to SF last night. So many girls everywhere, Lotsa Choice.

Spent some time in Lyon, It was Fantastic. There are a Bunch of hot Venezuelans there 7-9's. I was dirty dancing with 2 super cute girls. Ended up hooking up with Alejandra a cute 22 yo Julia Roberts Look alike. Paid her $70 mil. She was very compliant a little standoffish. But when I started boning her hard she was liking it. I was pulling her hair.

As always. The clubs were packed with a lot of hotties. Saw 2 or 3 guy fucking girls on stage at Venus- the girls all cheering. Anyway. It's all good![/QUOTE]I need to re-visit this old play ground as it has been 8 or 9 years since I last was in SF.

Everything that I read keeps drawing me back to experience it. I will be in MDE this month of December and maybe I need a few days in the shity cold and raining and cold heart-ed rolo land again.

TTM.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2110597]One thing I have not been able to find is a good hotel with close proximity to Santa Fe. I've seen mentioned the Oceania Comfort hotel but can't find any info on it. Anyone knows a good 3/4 star hotel in the Santa Fe area?[/QUOTE]I stay at the Oceana Comfort sometimes. It is a great hotel at a relatively cheap price. Free breakfast and a short walk to Santa Fe. I just wish their shower was bigger. They only have 1 elevator. One time it went out and our room was on the 10th floor. My girl finally decided to take the stairs. I stayed my happy ass on the couch in the lobby until it got fixed.

I've been to Bogota before and I think the value of the casas in Chapinero is close to unbeatable, but this time I want to try something new.

I'm curious about Zona T / Santa Fe, but have a question regarding the clubs there, what's the best time to visit them? As I only have a 10 hour lay over I will have to return to the airport at 7-8 pm. Is it even worth it to visit them so early?

I'm also interested in Loutron and if they have girls a notch above the other places.

So the places I may visit are Santa Fe / Zona T, Loutron, casas in Chapinero and the mezzanine on the 104th.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2111189]I've been to Bogota before and I think the value of the casas in Chapinero is close to unbeatable, but this time I want to try something new.

I'm curious about Zona T / Santa Fe, but have a question regarding the clubs there, what's the best time to visit them? As I only have a 10 hour lay over I will have to return to the airport at 7-8 pm. Is it even worth it to visit them so early?

I'm also interested in Loutron and if they have girls a notch above the other places.

So the places I may visit are Santa Fe / Zona T, Loutron, casas in Chapinero and the mezzanine on the 104th.[/QUOTE]I think if you want the most bang for your buck, you should head straight from the airport to the mezzanines, then maybe one of the massage spots near Zona T / Zona Rosa (near Atlantis Mall), and finish up at Atunes in Santa Fe. If you want the most options for the least money, just work the options in Santa Fe and skip everywhere else.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2111189]I'm curious about Zona T / Santa Fe, but have a question regarding the clubs there, what's the best time to visit them? As I only have a 10 hour lay over I will have to return to the airport at 7-8 pm. Is it even worth it to visit them so early?[/QUOTE]You can go to Atunes. It is a day time club.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2111082]I need to re-visit this old play ground as it has been 8 or 9 years since I last was in SF.

Everything that I read keeps drawing me back to experience it. I will be in MDE this month of December and maybe I need a few days in the shity cold and raining and cold heart-ed rolo land again.

TTM.[/QUOTE]I will be in Bogota from December 19 and leaving for Medellin on December 22.

Let's rock the town together.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2111082]I need to re-visit this old play ground as it has been 8 or 9 years since I last was in SF.

Everything that I read keeps drawing me back to experience it. I will be in MDE this month of December and maybe I need a few days in the shity cold and raining and cold heart-ed rolo land again.

TTM.[/QUOTE]I will be in Bogota from December 19 and leaving for Medellin on December 22.

Let's rock the city together.

Can anyone confirm that you can stay in Colombia for up to 60 days without paying a tax?

Hey,

Did Hooters move from Calle 85 to Zona T? I noticed a change on Google Maps.

[QUOTE=StripperMan;2112654]Can anyone confirm that you can stay in Colombia for up to 60 days without paying a tax?[/QUOTE]I don't think that's possible. Every time you eat a meal you are going to pay a tax. Are you talking about the hotel tax that residents pay? As long as you haven't been in the country for more than 90 days you don't have to pay that tax.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2112747]I don't think that's possible. Every time you eat a meal you are going to pay a tax. Are you talking about the hotel tax that residents pay? As long as you haven't been in the country for more than 90 days you don't have to pay that tax.[/QUOTE]You have an exit tax which is usually already paid in your ticket. If you stay past 90 days you must go to Immigration and apply for a 90 day extension and pay a fee.

I don't recall anyone here ever posting any information about any specific chica on SeekingArrangement. I can understand why we might not want to post positive reviews. I think that most girls on SA are trying to maintain plausible deniability. So I wouldn't want to out a girl who had provided good service. But what about the girls who have screwed you (in a bad way)?

I've been stood up twice by SA girls here in Bogotá. Since they didn't show up there was no sex and therefore publishing the name they use on SA certainly does not out them as a hooker. But a different type of negative report (she only rimmed me for 20 seconds and only allowed one pop) clearly outs the girl as a puta. I don't have a lot of sympathy for girls who expect money for lousy sex but I guess I still have some.

Of course guys seeing negative reports might not think about the plausible deniability angle and post a positive review which would clearly reveal that the girl was selling sex.

Just wondering what the mongering membership here thinks about all this.

[QUOTE=Alliwantislove;2113378]I don't recall anyone here ever posting any information about any specific chica on SeekingArrangement. I can understand why we might not want to post positive reviews. I think that most girls on SA are trying to maintain plausible deniability. So I wouldn't want to out a girl who had provided good service. But what about the girls who have screwed you (in a bad way)?

I've been stood up twice by SA girls here in Bogot. Since they didn't show up there was no sex and therefore publishing the name they use on SA certainly does not out them as a hooker. But a different type of negative report (she only rimmed me for 20 seconds and only allowed one pop) clearly outs the girl as a puta. I don't have a lot of sympathy for girls who expect money for lousy sex but I guess I still have some.

Of course guys seeing negative reports might not think about the plausible deniability angle and post a positive review which would clearly reveal that the girl was selling sex.

Just wondering what the mongering membership here thinks about all this.[/QUOTE]If everyone posted a review identifying girls that didn't show, we would have 200 reports a day that just read "xx didn't show up."

Women, especially Colombian women are notorious for not showing up or showing up very late. You're not going to change that. In addition, if you're not reporting about the girls providing good service and the girls providing bad service, you're wasting everyone's time.

"I went to Bogota and stayed at xx hotel. These are the girls I didn't meet and know nothing about because they didn't show up; a, be, see."

I was just in Bogotá last week met with a university chica named Valentina, she is a scammer. I offered money for her to show me the city and to go to my hotel afterwards. Long story short, after dinner 100 k, she made it clear she was going home, not to my hotel. She wanted the full amount that I had said clearly was for a day tour and hotel room after. I paid her half and left in my taxi. She did not want me to give her the money at the table inside the restaurant but at this point I knew I had nothing to lose. Sorry I deleted her pic she sent me so I can't post. Seems better to either get a guide OR find a girl for sex and not mix the two. I am still learning. I will post an update on my SA girl in Medellin soon, not good.

[QUOTE=Alliwantislove;2113378]I don't recall anyone here ever posting any information about any specific chica on SeekingArrangement. I can understand why we might not want to post positive reviews. I think that most girls on SA are trying to maintain plausible deniability. So I wouldn't want to out a girl who had provided good service. But what about the girls who have screwed you (in a bad way)?

I've been stood up twice by SA girls here in Bogot. Since they didn't show up there was no sex and therefore publishing the name they use on SA certainly does not out them as a hooker. But a different type of negative report (she only rimmed me for 20 seconds and only allowed one pop) clearly outs the girl as a puta. I don't have a lot of sympathy for girls who expect money for lousy sex but I guess I still have some.

Of course guys seeing negative reports might not think about the plausible deniability angle and post a positive review which would clearly reveal that the girl was selling sex.

Just wondering what the mongering membership here thinks about all this.[/QUOTE]

I just picked up a Verizon prepaid Samsung J3 here in the USA For $99 +tax. The good news is I'll be able to get 600+ mil COP in chica capital for it. I plan to give it to a Santa Fe chica I know, and in turn she will give me two all-night. Well, that's the plan anyways.

The bad news seems to be that the phone will not work in Colombia as only GSM based SIM cards work there apparently. Verizon phones run on CDMA. So I may have to return the phone unless somehow it actually will work there?

**this Verizon J3 is not a "world phone".

I have been going to Santa Fe for the last 4 nights.

Prices in Paisas, Fiebre, Troya, Lion are generally 70-90 mil. Super quality-- great selection.

Lower price clubs like Venus, California, Punto de Oro are $40-60 mil, street girls 35-60 mil. Super quality- great selection.

Street girls in the cheaper area of SF 25-35 mil.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2113823]I have been going to Santa Fe for the last 4 nights.

Prices in Paisas, Fiebre, Troya, Lion are generally 70-90 mil. Super quality-- great selection.

Lower price clubs like Venus, California, Punto de Oro are $40-60 mil, street girls 35-60 mil. Super quality- great selection.

Street girls in the cheaper area of SF 25-35 mil.[/QUOTE]Lots of lookers in SF. It is the season of gift giving and receiving. Please Woodman don't tease us with any photos. Oil.

[QUOTE=StripperMan;2113546]I just picked up a Verizon prepaid Samsung J3 here in the USA For $99 +tax. The good news is I'll be able to get 600+ mil COP in chica capital for it. I plan to give it to a Santa Fe chica I know, and in turn she will give me two all-night. Well, that's the plan anyways.

The bad news seems to be that the phone will not work in Colombia as only GSM based SIM cards work there apparently. Verizon phones run on CDMA. So I may have to return the phone unless somehow it actually will work there?

**this Verizon J3 is not a "world phone".[/QUOTE]You need an unlocked phone I think. The J3 has the capability, it's just that you have it locked to a network:

J3 Unlocked:

Infra.

2 G GSM, 3 G WCDMA, 4 G LTE FDD, 4 G LTE TDD.

2 G GSM.

GSM900, DCS1800, PCS1900.

3 G UMTS.

B1 (2100), B2 (1900), B5 (850), B8 (900).

If I'm wrong please correct me as I have a shitload of these phones I was going to bring, unlocked.

You can buy the J2 for less than $99 here in Bogota. With no 'unlock' problems. Don't bring the phones. Too much trouble to unlock. Been there. Done that. And no import problems in case you were searched at the airport (unlikely).

I checked out spa Tantras.

Cra. 20 a #72-30.

In retrospect going there was a mistake. The place wasn't that bad, but sitting in the brutal midday traffic for an hour in the taxi was the real problem. Also I am pretty sure the taxi driver ripped me off like 4 k. Whatever. So I get in there and they parade maybe 8 or 9 chicas in front of me. I picked a 20 yr old Venezuelan girl and paid 60 k for 40 minutes. She was quite attractive and petite. The service was nothing to write home about, CBJ, sex and then followed by a message. No kissing and she didn't like me touching her breasts. She was very attractive though. Tatiana was her name but if I could do it over again I would probably pick one of the other girls. At least we did bond and talk a bit afterwards so that was nice. The rooms are hilarious, just tiny little chubby holes with a bed. The couple next door were really going at it, so props to them I guess.

There is a strip club in Fontibon near my hotel so I will probably check that out tonight.

My hotel is great BTW. It is called Hotel Los Balcones and is 40 k a night. I think they are chica friendly, most low budget places are. I haven't brought any girls back yet but one of the fellow patrons was accompanied by what certainly appeared to be a puta. Anyway the hotel is solid, flat screen TV, WiFi works in the room and is very good (had to move from the 5th floor to the 3rd floor though because while the WiFi worked for the first two days on the 5th floor it stopped working after that, haven't had any trouble on the 3rd floor). It's a nice area with lots of cheap restaurants. The only thing is it is a little away from the action. Relatively close to the airport as well.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2113823]I have been going to Santa Fe for the last 4 nights.

Prices in Paisas, Fiebre, Troya, Lion are generally 70-90 mil. Super quality-- great selection.

Lower price clubs like Venus, California, Punto de Oro are $40-60 mil, street girls 35-60 mil. Super quality- great selection.

Street girls in the cheaper area of SF 25-35 mil.[/QUOTE]Are those prices per hour Woodman?

[QUOTE=KangarooTed;2114035]You need an unlocked phone I think. The J3 has the capability, it's just that you have it locked to a network:

J3 Unlocked:

Infra.

2 G GSM, 3 G WCDMA, 4 G LTE FDD, 4 G LTE TDD.

2 G GSM.

GSM900, DCS1800, PCS1900.

3 G UMTS.

B1 (2100), B2 (1900), B5 (850), B8 (900).

If I'm wrong please correct me as I have a shitload of these phones I was going to bring, unlocked.[/QUOTE]I believe you are correct, and thanks for your post. What you are saying actually supports my most recent research. The Samsung J7 is built with the capability to use either GSM or CDMA. It's just that Verizon blocks it to CDMA-only in the states. After you unlock it, the J7 will work on standard GSM networks just fine. **made a typo in my original post, bought the J7 not J3.

Also, my research indicates that the Samsungs are pretty easy to unlock and only cost about 50-60 mil to do so. This price is inline with what it costs in the DR & Mexico. My chica friend is already lined up to unlock the phone the same day I give it to her.

[QUOTE=GreatGuy1234;2114177]
My hotel is great BTW. It is called Hotel Los Balcones and is 40 k a night. I think they are chica friendly, most low budget places are. I haven't brought any girls back yet but one of the fellow patrons was accompanied by what certainly appeared to be a puta. Anyway the hotel is solid, flat screen TV, WiFi works in the room and is very good (had to move from the 5th floor to the 3rd floor though because while the WiFi worked for the first two days on the 5th floor it stopped working after that, haven't had any trouble on the 3rd floor). It's a nice area with lots of cheap restaurants. The only thing is it is a little away from the action. Relatively close to the airport as well.[/QUOTE]I really don't recomend Fontibon. It's an industrial area far from any action.

I went to the Mezzanine today for the first time ever and found a true gem. I went to the backside, second to last door, and wasn't impressed, so I then went to the third to last door- and there she was. A 21 year old white cutie from Venezuela. She said she is leaving in a week to go back home. She had her brown hair in a shoulder length bob and a beautiful face and killer smile. 5-6 or 5-7, be cup, and not an ounce of fat on her. It is 80 for 30 minutes and it included a nice massage and completo. She wanted to keep kissing me and seemed to really enjoy it. Her awesome attitude made up for the fact that the session is in a tiny, but clean, room, with only a massage table (in the last door- I think it says 9 on it.) I am sad I won't be back in time to see her before she leaves.

[QUOTE=Routard;2114436]I really don't recomend Fontibon. It's an industrial area far from any action.[/QUOTE]Not true. There is actually plenty of action IN Fontibon. There's one great spot right on the main drag,(cra 100) but the name escapes me. It's not hidden though; it's a second floor.

Just as an aside, now that Bogota is flooded with Venezuelan girls, prices have gone down some. If you were paying 60 k before, negotiate for 40-50 k.

Also it looks there are 5 or so casinos in the Fontibon area. As is this love Motel / Hotel:

[B]Loveres Paradise Royal[/B]

Carrera 102 # 17 A - 51, Fontibon Centro [URL]https://www.facebook.com/Leveres-Paradis-Royal-638815122874030/[/URL].

[QUOTE=BangoCheito;2115948]Not true. There is actually plenty of action IN Fontibon. There's one great spot right on the main drag,(cra 100) but the name escapes me. It's not hidden though; it's a second floor.

Just as an aside, now that Bogota is flooded with Venezuelan girls, prices have gone down some. If you were paying 60 k before, negotiate for 40-50 k.[/QUOTE]

All of the casinos in Fontibon are just small ones with slot machines and electronic roulette not really worth going to imo.

There is a place in Fontibon with chicas. It is on the second floor of calle #17 around carerra #100, but they charged me 14 k for a water and the ***** waitress stole my change from a 20 k note so I haven't returned. There are a bunch of guys on the street that will cajole you to enter the bars. There are actually two bars side by side, with a chicken place downstairs, the other one only charged me 5 k for a water.

[QUOTE=BangoCheito;2115948]Not true. There is actually plenty of action IN Fontibon. There's one great spot right on the main drag,(cra 100) but the name escapes me. It's not hidden though; it's a second floor.
[/QUOTE]Yep, I have visited it once, it's on my FAQ: Disco bar Colombianitas Carrera 100#20C-04. Open daily except Monday from 6 pm till 3 am. No cover, strip show, 30 girls. Pricing is 70 000/20 min. But that is it, still not a reason to stay in Fontibon. IMHO. Except if you are in Bogota for other reasons than mongering, best place to stay is Zona Norte if you want confort and safety or Chapinero if you are on budget.

On the map that address shows up as Club Social Privado Samarkanda. But the street photo has a different name.

[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=13ocBQUflm57FfMBszPYYRZskdtM&ll=4.675853144783897%2C-74.14226457860735&z=22[/URL]

[QUOTE=Routard;2116597]Yep, I have visited it once, it's on my FAQ: Disco bar Colombianitas Carrera 100#20C-04. Open daily except Monday from 6 pm till 3 am. No cover, strip show, 30 girls. Pricing is 70 000/20 min. But that is it, still not a reason to stay in Fontibon. IMHO. Except if you are in Bogota for other reasons than mongering, best place to stay is Zona Norte if you want confort and safety or Chapinero if you are on budget.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2116616]On the map that address shows up as Club Social Privado Samarkanda. But the street photo has a different name.

[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&mid=13ocBQUflm57FfMBszPYYRZskdtM&ll=4.675853144783897%2C-74.14226457860735&z=22[/URL][/QUOTE]It's definitely not Club Social Privado. The sign of googlemap is still existing, but Colombianitas is the name on their presentation cards.

I was interested in a cheaper hotel near santa fe as well. Is Oceana Confort chica friendly? Does it have a visitor fee?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2111188]I stay at the Oceana Comfort sometimes. It is a great hotel at a relatively cheap price. Free breakfast and a short walk to Santa Fe. I just wish their shower was bigger. They only have 1 elevator. One time it went out and our room was on the 10th floor. My girl finally decided to take the stairs. I stayed my happy ass on the couch in the lobby until it got fixed.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2118525]I was interested in a cheaper hotel near santa fe as well. Is Oceana Confort chica friendly? Does it have a visitor fee?[/QUOTE]Actually that area going south on 13th there are several cheaper hotels around about 8 or 10+.

There are 3 right near a police substation-- at 13th and 23 d.

[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/place/Cl.[/URL]+23,+Bogot%C3%A1/ at 4. 6105687,-74.0739271,219 m / data=!3 m1!1 e3!4 m5!3 m4!1 s0 x8 e3 f999 eed391 acb:0 xa2 a3212 c069 d7 ceb!8 m2!3 d4. 6104992!4 d-74.0732504.

Has anyone tried [URL]Seekingarrangment.com[/URL] for Bogota? Does it work? Lots of good looking girls there.

I am travelling next week to Bogota. I have basic tourist language skills in Spanish, but I don't have much vocabulary for negotiating with girls about their services and so on. I would be thus very grateful if some one could tell most relevant phrases for having the negotiation with the girls in the clubs and street (discussion with girls goes always with the same phrases and basic questions, so that would help me a lot).

P.S. Been here at least ten years, but I have not been posting a lot so I forgot my username and password. Just created a new one.

[QUOTE=AlexStone;2119294]I am travelling next week to Bogota. I have basic tourist language skills in Spanish, but I don't have much vocabulary for negotiating with girls about their services and so on. I would be thus very grateful if some one could tell most relevant phrases for having the negotiation with the girls in the clubs and street (discussion with girls goes always with the same phrases and basic questions, so that would help me a lot).

P.S. Been here at least ten years, but I have not been posting a lot so I forgot my username and password. Just created a new one.[/QUOTE]The vocabulary doesn't matter, with poor spanish you will have the gringo rate. I would rather suggest to visit the places where you don't need to negotiate as you pay the house, not the girl. Avoid the high end clubs in north Bogota, for all others brothels in Chapinero or Santa Fe, you will be fine.

[QUOTE=Routard;2119368]The vocabulary doesn't matter, with poor spanish you will have the gringo rate. I would rather suggest to visit the places where you don't need to negotiate as you pay the house, not the girl. Avoid the high end clubs in north Bogota, for all others brothels in Chapinero or Santa Fe, you will be fine.[/QUOTE]Although I concede you are a legend around here the vocab does matter. I have poor Spanish but learned enough from this board to negotiate the going rate. I too would like to see a list of common phrases used. I'm not too picky with what comes with 30,000 cop but wouldn't mind more knowledge.

[QUOTE=PaisaPorFavor;2119429]Although I concede you are a legend around here the vocab does matter. I have poor Spanish but learned enough from this board to negotiate the going rate. I too would like to see a list of common phrases used. I'm not too picky with what comes with 30,000 cop but wouldn't mind more knowledge.[/QUOTE]You are right, I was not very helpful with my coment. Il will try to refrase it again. What I meant is that it for example a fluent speaking Spanish tourist will have the gringo rate simply because girls now he has incomes in euro and his standards of what is expensive and what is cheap is on European standards. I am living here, I don't need to have any negotiating skills, girls just give me the local price. It doesn't matter if I'm rich or poor in Colombia, I'm used to pay 3 $ for my lunch and anything above seems expensive to me. I'm tall and blonde, but I don't need to speak for people to know that I'm living here, they just know if from my attitude. Colombians in the street ask directions to me when they are lost, people ask to flash my cedula, not my passport and the first question Colombians usually pop to me is how long I'm living here, not where I come from.

My point is that if you want to have the local price with a girl, 99% is attitude and 1% is what you might say. Try to act and look as if you are living here. First one is dress code. Typical mistake of any tourist in a poorer country is try to dress poor believing it's the best way to mix with the people. It's the opposite. A gringo living in Colombia no matter his incomes is classified as strato 6. A gringo who is working in Colombia has to adapt himself on local dress code. And local dress code for a strato 6 is definitely not a T shirt, an old jean, a short, sandals or a cap. Dress smart, especially shoes, it's probably the first thing people will notice. The next thing people look are you're your hands and men in Colombia are used to do manicure. You need to be shaved and have a fresh haircut. Remember, Colombians are Latinos and Latinos dress smart and take great care of how they look. Yes, I know, most people would believe it would be better to look poor to negotiate price with a girl in Colombia, but it's the opposite.

Another one is attitude. When I Travelled to Colombia as a tourist I had always a huge smile, everything looked so great and any Colombiana looked sexy to me. I was so relaxed, was on vacation without any problem and could afford anything with my euros. I'm now living here, have a company, am struggling everyday with administration, employees, clients, providers ro my bank. I see everyday Colombianas, I got used to it. So of course you can read it on my face that I'm living and working in Colombia. Just try to remember it if you try to look as a gringo who is living here.

Now, I don't want to escape the question, here is it what you might say to negotiate price:

- Hola nena, como estas?

- Bien y tu?

- Como te llamas?

- Me llamo Carolina y tu?

- Mucho gusto Carolina, yo soy Routard. Oye, cuanto cobrarias para pasar un rato?

- Mi amor, el precio es de 60 000 en la habitacion.

- A bueno! y que tal para toda la noche?

- Mi amor, para toda la noche yo cobro 500 000.

- No, es demasiado. Mira, ya son las 2, el lugar va a cerrar y vas a terminar de todas modas. Lo vamos a pasar chevere los dos. 300 000 te parece?

- Ah, mi amor, tengo hijos, mi papa es enfermo, necesito la plata etc. 400 000.

- Listo para 400 000, pero hasta el desayuno. Estamos de acuerdo?

- Listo mi amor, vamonos.

Thanks for the information. I was just reading another of your posts about picking up non pros. Great information there too!

[QUOTE=BigDude1;2118947]Has anyone tried [URL]Seekingarrangment.com[/URL] for Bogota? Does it work? Lots of good looking girls there.[/QUOTE]Yes.

First of all it's expensive. $80 per month for a Premium membership which you need in order to exchange messages with the girls. It would be interesting to see if you could get away with putting your WhatsApp in your profile (free memberships have a profile) but I don't think SA would let you get away with that.

A lot of attractive girls and in my experience the photos are not photoshopped.

SA makes very clear that they are not providing any pimping services. That makes it tough to decide how explicit you can be in your profile. So the trick I think is to find somewhat vague terminology to put in your profile and hope that the girls are reading between the lines. Things like you are looking for intimate companionship, or physical romance, a date with benefits, an instant / temporary girlfriend, etc. But if you crossed a line I don't know if SA would tell you to change your profile or cancel your membership.

As soon as a girl indicated any interest I would ask for her WhatsApp and then via WhatsApp messages be precise about the services I was looking for. Time consuming since my Spanish is pretty poor.

Of 6 dates I had setup: One girl in Bogota (she use the handle Crysstall) never showed up. No warning that she wouldn't be showing up. No explanation. No apology. Another girl in Bogota (she uses the handle Yulyxxx) sent me a WhatsApp two hours after our date and said that she would be leaving shortly. But I knew that she lived an hour away. I was pissed and told her not to bother.

In Medellin one girl showed up on time and was very attractive and provided great service. But she was a real lush and if I ever have her pay me another visit I will make sure that I have very little alcohol around. Another girl in Medellin also showed up on time and was also very attractive and also provided great service. Besides paying her well I paid for her taxi home. But when I scheduled another appointment with her two days later she never showed up. No message to let me know that she couldn't make it. No explanation. No apology. I scheduled an appointment with a third girl in Medellin who sent me a message just around the time she was to show up saying that she had decided that she's not that kind of girl. But there was nothing in her profile to suggest that she was offering P4 P so I blame myself for that one.

In Cartagena I had only one appointment which was so-so. She showed up a little late. Knew how to handle my cojones but does not know how to handle a dick. No OWO but I did not indicate that I wanted that. SA seemed to have many fewer girls in or near Cartagena than Bogot and Medelland.

Bottom line. I don't know if I will continue to use it.

[QUOTE=Routard;2119929]You are right, I was not very helpful with my coment. Il will try to refrase it again. What I meant is that it for example a fluent speaking Spanish tourist will have the gringo rate simply because girls now he has incomes in euro and his standards of what is expensive and what is cheap is on European standards. I am living here, I don't need to have any negotiating skills, girls just give me the local price. It doesn't matter if I'm rich or poor in Colombia, I'm used to pay 3 $ for my lunch and anything above seems expensive to me. I'm tall and blonde, but I don't need to speak for people to know that I'm living here, they just know if from my attitude. Colombians in the street ask directions to me when they are lost, people ask to flash my cedula, not my passport and the first question Colombians usually pop to me is how long I'm living here, not where I come from..[/QUOTE]Thanks Routard for your thorough answer! Good information, but actually my question was much more simple: what is BBBJ / COF / Anal / etc in Spanish (used by Colombian girls) and what are the must questions for the girls. I mean that in different countries especially SWs have different tricks they always do and it is good to point out that you know it and ask them (E. G. In some places girls don't fully undress if you don't require it beforehand). I was thinking if there is anything like that what is good to know (and how to say that in Spanish) before going fist time to clubs etc in Bogota.

Look above in the blue area.

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[QUOTE=AlexStone;2120045]Thanks Routard for your thorough answer! Good information, but actually my question was much more simple: what is BBBJ / COF / Anal / etc in Spanish (used by Colombian girls) and what are the must questions for the girls. I mean that in different countries especially SWs have different tricks they always do and it is good to point out that you know it and ask them (E. G. In some places girls don't fully undress if you don't require it beforehand). I was thinking if there is anything like that what is good to know (and how to say that in Spanish) before going fist time to clubs etc in Bogota.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AlexStone;2120045]Thanks Routard for your thorough answer! Good information, but actually my question was much more simple: what is BBBJ / COF / Anal / etc in Spanish (used by Colombian girls) and what are the must questions for the girls. I mean that in different countries especially SWs have different tricks they always do and it is good to point out that you know it and ask them (E. G. In some places girls don't fully undress if you don't require it beforehand). I was thinking if there is anything like that what is good to know (and how to say that in Spanish) before going fist time to clubs etc in Bogota.[/QUOTE]I've never had an issue with any of these things. Maybe because I don't follow any set routine with the girls and don't do anal. Completely naked is a given. Chances are, any one who insists on keeping clothes on probably is hiding the vagina installation surgery. To me, if you have a checklist, then you're just paying for a sex doll. It's completely mechanical.

I never discuss the details before. In the room I guide them in the direction I want and 9 of 10 are no problem. Even if I don't get everything, it usually works out that I'm happy with the results.

If anal, COF or CIM is a requirement, you'll have less success. If BBBJ or BBFS is necessary you'll also hit more snags. This is especially true in casas and strip clubs.

A few phrases:

En tu boca. In your mouth.

En tu cara. On your face (you'll find a lot of resistance).

En tus senos. On your breasts.

Sexo En tu cola. Sex in your butt. (If there's confusion ano = anus).

Sin condon or natural. Without condom. Emphasize the syllables, na tu ral.

Before someone restarts the "my Spanish is better than your Spanish" debate, these are all simple phrases all girls will understand.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2120300]I've never had an issue with any of these things. Maybe because I don't follow any set routine with the girls and don't do anal. Completely naked is a given. Chances are, any one who insists on keeping clothes on probably is hiding the vagina installation surgery. To me, if you have a checklist, then you're just paying for a sex doll. It's completely mechanical.

I never discuss the details before. In the room I guide them in the direction I want and 9 of 10 are no problem. Even if I don't get everything, it usually works out that I'm happy with the results.

If anal, COF or CIM is a requirement, you'll have less success. If BBBJ or BBFS is necessary you'll also hit more snags. This is especially true in casas and strip clubs.

A few phrases:

En tu boca. In your mouth..[/QUOTE]How do I ask "Can I cum in your pussy".

Is there a Bogota map around here like the Medellin one?

[QUOTE=Vatore007;2121217]How do I ask "Can I cum in your pussy".[/QUOTE]Not sure what you mean but guess based on JBee62's answer. I will say.

Sexo sin condom.

Sexo natural.

[QUOTE=Vatore007;2121218]Is there a Bogota map around here like the Medellin one?[/QUOTE]Yes. Scroll down to the Bogota Lists thread.

[QUOTE=Vatore007;2121217]How do I ask "Can I cum in your pussy".[/QUOTE]Puedo terminar adentro.

[QUOTE=BigDude1;2118947]Has anyone tried [URL]Seekingarrangment.com[/URL] for Bogota? Does it work? Lots of good looking girls there.[/QUOTE]It works fabulously. Yes the 80 dollar membership is expensive compared to other sites. But I've never had issues. Always found what I'm looking for in a matter of 24 hours. It also works for Peru, Panama, and I've used it for Dom Rep. Although I should point out I've only used it on girls seeking a monthly allowance versus pay for play. Most girls you come in contact with are semi pros or non pros.

I was in Bogota between December 19 and December 23 and also on December 26.

December 19.

I landed in Bogota from Caracas around 7 pm, a friend of mine told me there was a Gringo night every Tuesday at La Villa in Zona T, where local Colombian women try to pick up Gringos.

I quickly freshened up and off I went to La Villa, I got there around 9 pm, the doorman checked my ID and let me in.

The quality of the girls inside was okish and I broke the ice with 2 girls standing at the bar, they were Americans, certainly not what I am looking for in Bogota. I later saw a stunning paisa girl, but she brushed me off saying she was there with her "friend".

About 10 minutes later, I went to the bar to get a drink, I enquired about the prices and discovered I could get a bottle of Jack Daniel for 175000, I ordered one bottle of JD and as soon as I turned around after taking my drink from the bar, the paisa girl was right in front of me smiling and asking if I wanted to dance, I was like "sure, why not", and we went upstairs and started dancing and drinking together.

Our dance got naughtier as time went by as we starting grinding, touching her breasts in the club and I was loving Colombia.

A while later, her friend came around and they spoke some words in Spanish and later she asked me if I would like to dance with her friend also. I said yes, then I began switching between both of the girls.

The paisa girl later told me if I wanted to take them to my apartment, after saying yes, she said I would have to pay them, I asked her "Cuanto es" and she said 700000 for both of them, I countered with 500000, she spoke some words in Spanish to her friends and said nothing to me. We continued dancing and grinding and I felt like I was on top of the world, she started giving her drink to drink, her drink tasted very different from the JD and coke that I bought, but I kept drinking her drinks regardless. After a while, they suggested we should all be going to my apartment and we left the club. Outside the club, they started demanding for their money, even though I had some money on me, I told them I had no cash and that all my money was in my card, we hailed a taxi and they started telling the taxi drive to take us to a "Cajero". I tried to assure them that I would give them the money in my apartment, but they insisted the driver take us to a ATM, I was very unusually weak to argue against them, when we got to a ATM, I withdrew 600000, and gave it to them and told them that was the limit on my card. They collected the money and told me they are not going to follow me home because I have not paid them their full money. They told the taxi to drop them at a junction and they left. I was so weak, I could not even ask them for my money back, I just told the taxi driver to take me to my apartment.

December 20.

I woke up with a nasty headache and hangover and started remembering what happened the previous night, I could not imagine what happened the previous night happening to me.

I called my friend up and told me about what happened and he said they must have probably spiked my drink and that if I should go out alone in Bogota as a foreigner, I should not drink.

In the evening, I went to Santa Fe with my friend and had a blast, we first went to a place where there were only Venezuelan girls, Bar California I think it is called. I took a 19 year old Venezuelan upsatairs for 40,000.

We later went to Troja, Paisas, Fiebre and some other clubs across the street, I sessioned with a girl at Troja, but the service was nothing to write home about. The girl was a negra girl who had the one of the biggest natural bubble butt I have ever seen, I should have known by her very cold attitude, but her ass was legendary. After the clubs closed at 4 am, I was looking for a girl to take back to my apartment. I found a 20 year old Venezuelan girl who spoke fluent English on the street. My friend was able to negotiate with her for 100,000 TLN. She said I needed to buy her some stuff before we go to my apartment, I gave her 10 mil and she got her stuff. She told me she hadn't slept for 3 days. She was just smoking weed and doing stuff when we got to the apartment and started telling me the 100,000 was for one hour and she wanted more money for everything. I got pissed at this point and just banged her and gave her 100,000 and told her to leave.

December 21.

My friend was not available this evening, so I decided to check out Pussy House, since I was only staying a few blocks away in Calle 60, I tried to walk there from my apartment but got lost along the way, the way the Calles and Carreras work is still very confusing to me. I ended up taking a taxi and there were about 13-15 girls working. I bought a half-bottle of aguardiente and watch the cattles walk by. I met a Paisa girl named Gisel, and invited her to my table. I negotiated with her to take her back to my apartment.

Gisel stayed over until 11:00 am the following day.

December 22.

I went with my friend back to a few strip clubs in Calle 49, nothing that I really liked, so I suggested that we head over to Santa Fe again, this time we mostly stayed at Fiebre as they had better looking girls this night. I was able to negotiate with Julianna at this club for TLN back at my apartment after the club closed. She gave the best service out of all the girls I met in Colombia.

Julianna left around 8 am and I quickly got ready to catch my flight to Medellin at 12.

December 26.

I was supposed to fly back to Europe today and my flight was scheduled for 10 pm from Bogota. I arrived at Bogota airport from Medellin around 4:30 pm and I thought I have a few hours to burn. I called my friend and we agreed to meet at Santa Fe in 45 minutes, I paid for the secure storage to store my luggage at the hotel. At Santa Fe, we quickly went to Troja where I sessioned with Natalia, the lady with the blue hair, afterwards we went to Fiebre and had a goodbye session with Julianna. After the session, I checked my phone and the time was 8:13 pm. I quickly rushed out and flagged down a taxi to take me to the airport. "Mas rapido, por favor", I told the taxi driver, but there was a massive traffic on our way to the airport. The time kept on ticking quickly as the traffic got worse. We reached the airport at around 8:55 pm and ran all the way to the Secure storage to fetch my luggage and then to the Check-in desk. As I tried to check in, I was told I needed a E-Visa, because I had a connecting flight at Boston, I told them I was a UK citizen and should no require the Visa, but they said every non US national has to get it. They told me I could get one online, but they were closing the gate in 2 minutes. My phone was dead and they said no when I asked to use their system to get the E visa. I ended up missing my flight and rebooked another ticket for a morning flight. I slept at the airport and took my new flight at 8 am.

I am never taking any flight passing through the states again. Is it possible to claim compensation from the airline?

P.S.

I was at Santa Fe twice well past 4 am in the morning and I did not see any reason to worried. There were lots of dodgy guys watching everybody, but there were lots of police presence there as well. The police announced using a speaker after the clubs closed on both nights that they will start arresting people if they do not leave the area. As long as you don't act or do something stupid, you should be fine here. I am definitely going to stay closer to Santa Fe next time I am in Bogota.

Santa Fe looked like heaven having stayed in Caracas where I witnessed a live robbery.

Seeking Arrangement.

This was an absolute waste of my time and money. Having spent abut $80 on their membership. I messaged about 13 girls and I got 5 numbers, but I was not able to meet even one of them in Bogota.

The girls were so hot on the website that I was already thinking of them before landing in Bogota.

Girl 1: No response to calls, texts and Whatsapp (She started responding to my messages on the day I was leaving).

Girl 2: Wanted 600,000, tried to talk her down to 400,000, but would not bulge.

Girl 3: We agreed the time and place, but sent a message in the morning to say she would not come, when I asked why, she never responded back to me.

Girl 4: She kept on asking about my life history, career history and felt scarier than a real relationship.

Girl 5: Rarely replied to my messages, was unable to plan anything.

Nice report Baksonlee. You know how to have a good time, and you obviously have more $$ than I do too!! Jajajajaja. Bogota is an amazing place. Seems to me that Bogota and Medellin both have their plus and minuses, both are great destinations, just different. Glad you had lots of fun.

[QUOTE=Baksonlee;2123207]I was in Bogota between December 19 and December 23 and also on December 26.

December 19.

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Nice report Baksonlee. Sounds like you got to know Santa Fe well. Also, sorry about the scammers at La Villa. That situation could have been a lot worse.

As for the English-speaking Venezuelan you met on the streets of Santa Fe, did she happen to be tall, thin, long brown hair, white skin with a Euro or American look, possibly wearing glasses? If so I know who she is.

[QUOTE=StripperMan;2123634]Nice report Baksonlee. Sounds like you got to know Santa Fe well. Also, sorry about the scammers at La Villa. That situation could have been a lot worse.

As for the English-speaking Venezuelan you met on the streets of Santa Fe, did she happen to be tall, thin, long brown hair, white skin with a Euro or American look, possibly wearing glasses? If so I know who she is.[/QUOTE]Yes, that is her. She told me she works in one of the bars in Santa Fe. How was your experience with her?

[QUOTE=StripperMan;2123634]possibly wearing glasses? If so I know who she is.[/QUOTE]I know her. She is thin but it is weird to see her sagging body in the room. I got scammed by her too but was only out of 20 K.

[QUOTE=Chesscat;2123309]Nice report Baksonlee. You know how to have a good time, and you obviously have more $$ than I do too!! Jajajajaja. Bogota is an amazing place. Seems to me that Bogota and Medellin both have their plus and minuses, both are great destinations, just different. Glad you had lots of fun.[/QUOTE]Really? Accepting drinks from chicks that you don't know is the way to do it? Giving chicks 600 K for dancing and drinking up your liquor is the way to do it? It seems that most of these chicks saw this guy coming from 2 km away. What the fuck is mongering coming to?

[QUOTE=Baksonlee;2123207]I am never taking any flight passing through the states again. Is it possible to claim compensation from the airline?[/QUOTE]You take Uber to the club then you get to the door and they ask to see your ID and you do not have it. Then you have to take a taxi back to your place to collect your ID and bring you back to the club. Why would you expect the Uber driver to compensate you for the taxi?

The airline's job is to get you where you said you wanted to go. It is your responsibility to know and have the documents that you need for your journey.

Excellent report Backsonlee, it's great to try different things and make up your mind. Regarding what happened in la Villa however, it could have ended up much worse. La Villa is a great place for gringos to meet Colombianas. However, it's a non pro scene. I tried to explain it in the past, there is no such as 'semi-pros' in Bogota. 99% of girls in Bogota are non pro and as a gringo it's pretty easy to score, in La Villa or elsewhere. Pros are in places for P4 P, when a girl in la Villa start to talk about money, then there is something wrong. There are a lot of scams in Zona T with Scopolamine. It's never a good idea get drunk in an unknown place with unknown people. Scammers look for drunk and single people, you was the perfect victim. Most wake up in a hospital room without their belongings. A couple of months ago hte victim was a Colombian medic. He was not that lucky, they found him dead outside of Bogota. Its a matter of dosis. Never leave your drink unattended and never drink somenting that is offered by an unknown person.

[QUOTE=Baksonlee;2123705]Yes, that is her. She told me she works in one of the bars in Santa Fe. How was your experience with her?[/QUOTE]One time I was with her she was great. We agreed on a set price, the sex was excellent, and we hung out a little just chilling. Another time I was with her she was a mess! She was trying to start fights for no reason, and I ended up kicking her out before even having sex. This girl has some big mood swings!

[QUOTE=Baksonlee;2123207]My phone was dead and they said no when I asked to use their system to get the E visa. I ended up missing my flight and rebooked another ticket for a morning flight. I slept at the airport and took my new flight at 8 am.

I am never taking any flight passing through the states again. Is it possible to claim compensation from the airline?[/QUOTE]US requires citizens of countries on Visa Waver Program to get travel authorization online before arrival. I think what you get is a travel authorization, not visa. And it is usually good for a couple of years. The airline is doing its job. You probably could avoid the problem if you found it out earlier by arriving at the airport early.

Arrived wee hours of New Year's day, Bogota was virtually dead, nothing on the streets, most places closed.

Day 1.

Decided to try photoprepagos for opening ceremony. First lady I contacted quoted me 200 mil, which was double her posted rate. She claimed it was New Year day pricing, her attitude was off-putting, so I moved on.

Second lady from photoprepagos responded more cordially confirming her posted rates. Her street name is Carolina, mature but perfect well toned tight body, said she likes to work out. When she arrived, I liked her attitude enough that I decided on 2 h, for 200 mil. She is open to pretty much everything, including greek and photos / videos, no extra charge. Very good IOP (bordering on sex maniac) and GFE experience overall. Gave a decent firm massage between sessions (way better than you get at the rub and shag joints). Her BBBJ skill was potentially excellent but ruined by her incessant need to talk. She talks, and talks, and talks. We took a bubble bath in the jacuzzi afterwards (her idea). Spent about 3 h together, I was very pleased.

Day 2 - Rained all day, plus I was exhausted after my night with Carolina.

Day 3 - Decided to check out the rub and shag joints, first try was Pricesitas on Carrera 15 #116-59. Street # clearly marked at entrance, you go up the stairs and turn left on the 2nd (or 1st) floor. I was greeted by an ok looking friendly lady (Helena, or something) who explained the rates (100 k for CBJ. Pass, or 120 k for completo. Si). Does any sane dude ever pick the CBJ option? Seems pointless. Anyway, she offered herself or a lineup, I opted for the lineup, about 6 ladies, 6 - 8 rating, I. E. , all shaggable. I picked the youngest and prettiest, a skinny 21 year old, small tits, who looked a bit reserved and naive. Massage was crap, CBJ is not my thing so I can't judge. Shagging was excellent, she has very good IOP and is a passionate kisser. Allowed 2 pops without me asking. Annoying thing was that 'mamasan', or the 'bottom * not sure what they call them here, shouted that our time was up in our darkest moment of passion. She seemed as irritated as I was, we were not there for 1 h for sure, maybe 40 min tops. A negative point of note is that the rooms are the most basic I have ever seen anywhere. Not even a baby wipe to clean afterwards, just some cheap ass toilet paper that leaves crap all over your dick. Overall, I was very satisfied, and abandoned my plan to try the famous Mezzanine nearby on #104 afterwards.

Adventure continues.

[QUOTE=Kib123;2124939]Arrived wee hours of New Year's day, Bogota was virtually dead, nothing on the streets, most places closed.

Day 1.

Decided to try photoprepagos for opening ceremony. First lady I contacted quoted me 200 mil, which was double her posted rate. She claimed it was New Year day pricing, her attitude was off-putting, so I moved on.

Second lady from photoprepagos responded more cordially confirming her posted rates. Her street name is Carolina, mature but perfect well toned tight body, said she likes to work out. When she arrived, I liked her attitude enough that I decided on 2 h, for 200 mil. She is open to pretty much everything, including greek and photos / videos, no extra charge. Very good IOP (bordering on sex maniac) and GFE experience overall. Gave a decent firm massage between sessions (way better than you get at the rub and shag joints). Her BBBJ skill was potentially excellent but ruined by her incessant need to talk. She talks, and talks, and talks. We took a bubble bath in the jacuzzi afterwards (her idea). Spent about 3 h together, I was very pleased..[/QUOTE]This feels like a stupid question. But I am on my way to Columbia in a month and want to be clear. You use two different ways of expressing currency, for example "200 mil" and "120 k" Am I right that both "mil" and "k" refer to thousands, so that "200 mil" is about $70?

[QUOTE=Jwbobbitt;2125031]This feels like a stupid question. But I am on my way to Columbia in a month and want to be clear. You use two different ways of expressing currency, for example "200 mil" and "120 k" Am I right that both "mil" and "k" refer to thousands, so that "200 mil" is about $70?[/QUOTE]Correct sir! Mil means 1000 in Spanish, I was confused too at first because on some currency notes they use Mil and on others, 000; e. G. , some say 2,000 pesos and others 2 Mil pesos.

[QUOTE=Kib123;2124939] ...
Very good IOP (bordering on sex maniac) and GFE experience overall. ...
[/QUOTE]IOP? Google didn't know either. Thanks for a great report.

[QUOTE=Alliwantislove;2125079]IOP? Google didn't know either. Thanks for a great report.[/QUOTE]IOP = Illusion Of Passion (a US acronym for rating level of passion a provider brings, genuine or believable make-believe).

Did she (Carolina) have rose tattoos on her shoulder and body and is a MILF?

[QUOTE=Kib123;2124939]Second lady from photoprepagos responded more cordially confirming her posted rates. Her street name is Carolina, mature but perfect well toned tight body, said she likes to work out. When she arrived, I liked her attitude enough that I decided on 2 h, for 200 mil.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Frankfurt;2125131]Did she (Carolina) have rose tattoos on her shoulder and body and is a MILF?[/QUOTE]Yes, that's the one.

When I was in Bogota looking for freelancers on mileroticos, I got tired of weeding through trash and wrote something to help me out. Attached is a zip file with 2 html files inside. They show summaries of the last 10 pages of listings form milerotico's Bogota. Chapinero and Bogota. Santa fe section. The ads were consolidated by phone number. Sorted by date then number of ads. Pictures from a single phone numbers ads are collected and displayed together. You can quickly scan for freelancers who show pictures with their faces and avoid agencies which post frequently, thereby diluting the quality of the ad stream.

Enjoy.

Wonderful piece of work.

I really want to check out the scene in Santa Fe but am a bit worried because uber often doesn't work for me in Bogota (can't get coverage in certain places). Possible to get the club to ring me a taxi? Bit wary of them on the street at night in this area though I do speak good Spanish. Thoughts?

[QUOTE=ZumZum;2126276]I really want to check out the scene in Santa Fe but am a bit worried because uber often doesn't work for me in Bogota (can't get coverage in certain places). Possible to get the club to ring me a taxi? Bit wary of them on the street at night in this area though I do speak good Spanish. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]Get the club to call, or use an app like Tappsi or EasyTaxi.

[QUOTE=ZumZum;2126276]I really want to check out the scene in Santa Fe but am a bit worried because uber often doesn't work for me in Bogota (can't get coverage in certain places). Possible to get the club to ring me a taxi? Bit wary of them on the street at night in this area though I do speak good Spanish. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]Why not. They can even get you a white taxi. I had no issue with regular ones. There are plenty in the area.

[QUOTE=Kib123;2125062]Correct sir! Mil means 1000 in Spanish, I was confused too at first because on some currency notes they use Mil and on others, 000; e. G. , some say 2,000 pesos and others 2 Mil pesos.[/QUOTE]Thank you!

Details sprinkled in to help Bogota noobies understand the landscape. All photoprepago (pp) contacts made via whatsapp, no local SIM card necessary.

Day 4. After my luck with the first pp lady, tried another takeout called Dahiana (not sure how long the links will work): [URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/hermosa-universitaria-descomplicada-de-rostro-angelical-y-sensuales-curvas-3229137149-id-z9fvj[/URL] . The lady is hot, nice large boobs, skinny. Upsold me on BBBJ for extra 50 k, and like a sucker I fell for it, waste of money. Overall, average experience; lousy BJ, no GFE, poor IOP. Positives were that she was friendly and can really take a pounding. If you are mainly into looks, she may be your type. Otherwise not recommended. Total damage 200 k, 1 h.

Day 5. Another takeout from pp, a young 21 yo lady called Sofia (this is a common name on pp); [URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/tengo-muchas-ganas-de-ense%C3%B1arte-toda-mi-experiencia-sexual-en-la-cama-id-2w9x2[/URL] . A very sensual lady, easygoing personality, speaks a good deal of English so interaction was a breeze. However, of all the pp ladies I interacted with, she is the only one who wasn't explicit about specific services included in her advertised rates. The only one who responded almost instantly to all my inquiries. The only one who showed up on time. And the only one who insisted on payment upfront. All red flags. Turned out to be false alarms, she was a genuine GFE with very good IOP. Excellent BBBJ. No hidden charges or up-sell. Total damage, 150 k, 1 h. Repeatable.

Day 6. Visited the Chapinero RLD with all the massage parlors and love motels. Place is seedy as expected, but not scary. Specific addresses not easy to find find since they are mostly unmarked, but the map was super helpful. For the massage parlors, the best hint is a lone dude standing by an entrance (usually closed), look at him the right way and he will beckon you in. Jumped into a spa by NW corner of CL 67 and Cr 15, a White House (listed on map as Tantra Spa 67, but I think the small sign by the door said Spa 69). Place was busy with at least 4 dudes checking in / out. Lineup was 4 ladies, only one a 7, rest were 5's. I picked the 7, tall lady with wings tattoo covering entire back, called Nicol. Shy in the lineup, but open in the room, massage was mediocre. Tried to claim touching was extra. I didn't bite; then she just let me have my way. Despite the poor start, she turned out to be a good GFE and great performer. We ended on very good terms. Total damage 85 k, 1 h. Probably my last massage parlor visit due to questionable hygiene.

Day 7. Visited the famous Santa Fe RLD. All I can say is that I found it seedy as shit, and underwhelming in general. Street ladies were ugly, chubby or both, mostly both. Tried to navigate my way to the clubs and ended up in Zona Drag Queen, never seen so many in my life. If you have never been to a RLD or don't know what to expect, tone down your expectations substantially. If you know what you expect, you will have a good time as others have said. To me it just confirmed hardcore RLD is not my thing. Been to many of them around the world and found them all to be poor value for the experiences I like.

Came back to the room and ordered another PP instead. Marylin, [URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/soy-una-despampanante-mujersota-complice-del-buen-sexo-ardiente-fogosa-y-una-perra-muy-pasional-id-vewzf[/URL] . Up-sells like shit, but I took the bait anyway. She's 26, and looks a lot younger than her pics suggest. Very bubbly personality. By far the best experience I have had thus far. Excellent mix of GFE, PSE and personality. Genuine deep throat all the way to the bone, extremely rare. Total damage 190 k (including 50 k up-sell for BBBJ and Greek, and 20 k for taxi). Agreement was 1 h, but she stayed for 2 h. Highly recommended.

Lessons learned:

Photoprepago is a good and surprisingly low risk way to meet high quality independent GFE providers. Filtering by "Independentes" and "Con Experiencias" (meaning "with reviews") seem to weed out most agency ads and fakes. Filtering by "verified photos" is largely unnecessary, I have not had any surprises either way, almost all have looked better than their photos.

Make sure you confirm what the lady provides for the listed rate before you commit. Some do not up-sell, but many (about 50% in my interactions) will tack on unadvertised extra charge for things like BBBJ, Greek, and / or outcall. All allow MSOG at no extra charge (except in spas where single pop is the norm, regardless of duration selected). All so far have honored the minimum time, while some stay longer. All have been relatively friendly, and most are genuinely willing to please.

I love Bogota!

[QUOTE=Kib123;2125062]Correct sir! Mil means 1000 in Spanish, I was confused too at first because on some currency notes they use Mil and on others, 000; e. G. , some say 2,000 pesos and others 2 Mil pesos.[/QUOTE]P.S. Congrats Kib123 on your travels. I happened to search your posts looking for Bogota Report #1 (which I did not realize that I had read) when I saw Bogota Report #2. I also enjoy tasting the women of the world when I travel and was impressed with your destinations and experiences. Fly safely, friend!

Does anybody have experience with this lady?

[URL]http://elixirphysiques.com/Home_Page.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Jwbobbitt;2126985]P.S. Congrats Kib123 on your travels. I happened to search your posts looking for Bogota Report #1 (which I did not realize that I had read) when I saw Bogota Report #2. I also enjoy tasting the women of the world when I travel and was impressed with your destinations and experiences. Fly safely, friend![/QUOTE]Been lucky my job lets me tour different corners of the earth, got to take advantage my man. Thanks for noticing my global trials and tribulations.

My report for Bogota would be incomplete without my final experience. I was on a roll with pp, so decided to take my chances on Linda; [URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/gordita-sexy-y-muy-buena-compa%C3%B1ia-que-tiene-hoy-un-excelente-servicio-para-ti-id-jpfrm[/URL] . The lady describes herself as chubby, but by US standards she would only qualify as average. Anyway, large boobs, a bit of meat on the bone. Yes, a bit bigger then her pics, but not by much. Very pretty face. Turned out to be a good choice for a closing ceremony. She was the most genuinely passionate of all the ladies I sessioned with. Very much into it that it is doubtful she was acting. A bit submissive, but once you initiate, she becomes a wild animal, very energetic and engaged during the session. She also does not upcharge for standard things like BBBJ or transport. The best value for money my entire trip. Damage was 80 k, 1 h. I liked her a lot, so went for 2 h for 140 k. Greek is available for 30 k extra regardless of session length for those interested. Highly recommended.

For true GFE I would rank her as number 1, for PSE I would pick Marylin first. Carolina would be great too were she just not so annoying as a talker.

Additional notes:

It seems most Bogota providers expect you to provide the preservativo (condoms), or at least they try to hustle it out of you. Not sure if condoms are that expensive in Bogota, or the ladies are just cheap. Have some ready just in case.

I interacted with a lot more ladies from pp than I sessioned with. Most responded honestly and sent face pics when asked. As I said previously, about half will upcharge an average of 50 k for BBBJ, and / or 20 - 50 k for outcall. All were upfront about the extras at the negotiation phase. None was unwilling to perform BBBJ. Most will upcharge for greek when offered. None upcharged for MSOG. I tried to negotiate with 2, and this went nowhere, I never sessioned with either. All seemed to be handling their own bookings. Only one out of 9 cancelled on me due to 'rain', none were no shows. All except 1 were late an average of 30 min, but they kept me posted. Only 1 out of 8 would be a 'No' recommendation.

Massage parlors are a (slightly) cheaper option, but only if you take the 30 min session. As a foreigner who doesn't speak Spanish though, you are likely to be offered only the more expensive 1 h by default. Whether this leads to a better session, I don't know. Either way, the massage parlors in Bogota are the shittiest I ever saw, not inspiring at all in terms of hygiene. Even though I had 2 pretty good sessions, I would likely not go back.

Santa Fe is definitely not for everybody. Plan to at least rent a wing man if you wish to explore it, even in daytime. I would not go back.

In all, I have never had such a high success rate anywhere in the world. All with very little effort, and high quality at reasonable rates.

God bless Bogota, and this forum!

My girlfriend left for work at 7am. I went downstairs to eat and came back up to relax a bit. I was supposed to hook up with a chick at her house at 10. She had even given me the address yesterday, but today when I asked if she was ready she said that she would have to meet me out because there is a clause in her divorce that says she can not have men in the house. (Hear that one a lot in the Dominican Republic too.) I told her fuck that and deleted her. She knows that I have a girlfriend and was not about to be with her in public.

So what else to do but head to Santa Fe at 11am. Damn. I haven't been in the daytime in years. And except for the clubs being closed, I think the action is better. There were tons of chicas out. The first one I got for 30K. She let me pull it out and skeet in her face so I surprised her with a tip of 20K.

I stopped in to the barbershop across from Troya to recharge and get my haircut. 10K for the cut and wash and tipped him 2K. I headed out to the street and took some selfies with my Samsung Galaxy.

I saw another chick that looked so delicious so I stopped to ask her the price. She said 35K. I gave her 40K and she gave it to the lady at the office. The lady gave her 5K change. When we got to the room I took my 5K out of her hand. She said I am not going to rob you. She gave me a great session. I asked her how much for all night and she said she didn't do all night. I said why not. She said because she snores something awful. I said me too. That is why I use a machine. We cleaned up and she said the tip is voluntary. Then she said she would give me her number in case I wanted to see her again. She put it in my phone and I gave her the 5K back. She laughed and said see you gave it to me anyway.

I could be wrong but it seems like before I would pay the room and the girl separate, but now it is all included in one low price. I thought it used to be like 10K for the room.

I walked the few blocks back to my room and will go eat some fish at my favorite Sabores del Pacifico in el centro before I have to meet my girl when she gets off at 5:30.

Also, I tried Tinder out before leaving to go to Santa Fe, but 0 hits since I have been back in the room.

This is a view of Santa Fe from my hotel room and a selfie in front of Troya to show how dangerous it is. And a pic of the girlfriend too.

Yes- Love the Streetie Sweeties! Great quality at peak times!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2129627]So what else to do but head to Santa Fe at 11am. Damn. I haven't been in the daytime in years. And except for the clubs being closed, I think the action is better. There were tons of chicas out. The first one I got for 30K. She let me pull it out and skeet in her face so I surprised her with a tip of 20K.

I stopped in to the barbershop across from Troya to recharge and get my haircut. 10K for the cut and wash and tipped him 2K. I headed out to the street and took some selfies with my Samsung Galaxy.

I saw another chick that looked so delicious so I stopped to ask her the price. She said 35K. I gave her 40K and she gave it to the lady at the office. The lady gave her 5K change. When we got to the room I took my 5K out of her hand. She said I am not going to rob you. She gave me a great session. I asked her how much for all night and she said she didn't do all night. I said why not. She said because she snores something awful. I said me too. That is why I use a machine. We cleaned up and she said the tip is voluntary. Then she said she would give me her number in case I wanted to see her again. She put it in my phone and I gave her the 5K back. She laughed and said see you gave it to me anyway.

I could be wrong but it seems like before I would pay the room and the girl separate, but now it is all included in one low price. I thought it used to be like 10K for the room..[/QUOTE]

Hello my friends,

I know how you guys like details. SO here goes. I'm here for 2 months arrived Mon. Tues I went to a love motel I researched onine its called secret motel [URL]www.secretmotel.com.co[/URL] iCl. 62 #1551, Bogotá, Colombia went in waited had 4 beers while tried whatsapping and calling solitasparati they're mentioned a lot here and for good reason finally got the chic / mammasan on the phone told her I wanted a slim model body ID seen on her twitter Brittany you can still see her. She said she be there in two hours. So I waited for one hour in the lobby then went in. Room is sencilla option you get a pole a love making chair big bed way better than brothel. Warm water. 60 cop 4 hours. She arrived on time 415 pm absolutely the girl in the photos 200. Cop for an hour its a legit agency definitely recommend them. Session was amazing. She gave CBJ and I came missionary. Sorry she seemed so new to the biz turned me on. Hearing about her classes and the long trip etc etc. Didn't really last. She was a lot more girl next door than hardcore pro. Then that night I met a Colombian friend and he dragged me to pussy house because its close to where we were I've been there a few years back and all the chicks were ugly. So I wasn't happy to go. Actually here on the forum bunch a guys pumped up pussy house I thought they were wacked. But I was wrong outside the door was a petite 21 year old with slightly Indian cheeks shoulder length long silky black hairy dark eyes red red lipstick sweet elegant red one piece I told her how pretty she was and then we went in and wow not like I remembered. There was at least 3 stunners. By stunner I mean perfect bodies. All the ladies in pussy seem to dress more elegant. Some old hefer wouldn't get lost finally had let her have it. The girl outside Charlotte is her name I went back oit got her to come in we drank I beers she ordered a Smirnoff 15 cop the bartender gives her a chit she gets $$ later. Told her she's the one and left without going up stairs. We whatsapped from Tues. Night till Fri. Morn. She met me at 4 pm at the secret motel today FR I payed 70 for 4 hours because wanted a better room one with more mirrors loi. She came in jeans and a sweat shirt.

We started making out we talked a lot of love nonsense in the whatsapp so it felt like we were legit quite enjoyable and GFEy yeah I DATY I know but we so in love you got to foreplay. So then I missionaries and finished her on top. After that I massaged her back and front for an hour and we did it again and she CBJ me then back on top. She had very good on top motion so I wanted her to do that again. We still had almost 2 hours so we spent it talking turns out she speaks better English than I thought her dream is like all of them to move to the exterior its possible she's not this sweet with Colombians we downloaded songs theres wifi ate salmon and French fries then we got the call to vacate or pay 20 k for another hour I said were leaving as I'm packing up she gets this worried loom snd says that I'm forgetting something do I said ohhhh she was reluctant to ask for her money she said are you going to make me ask? I said you need to say a number but remember I'm gringo but Colombian soul she said 2 thousand in English I was like holly crap I said 2 mi. We both laughed her number was right on. She meant 200.000 pesos. She left and I know ill never see her again because I don't repeat because it never gets better. I might even have to avoid pussy house because she was so sweet don't want to face her. But really highlight of my Colombian experiences. Interestingly. We talked so much love in the whatsapp I couldn't ask what she wanted for $$ didn't even know if shed leave after 4 hours. So I did the real big no no doing dead without establishing a rate. Initially. She didn't want to eat anything she only wanted a water but I think she started to worry I wasn't going to give her anything so she started flipping through the sex toy catalog like maybe if she got a dildo or a nightie she wouldn't leave empty handed. They have like a brochure of stuff you can have sent up to the room. So she settled on a salmon meal 40 k It was really sweet how she behaved almost shy. She wanted me to cover her boobs and pussy for the massage. She's still so innocent. In a couple of months shell change. So go see her.

OK remember, we're all in this together.

Tom Power.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2129627]I was supposed to hook up with a chick at her house at 10. She had even given me the address yesterday, but today when I asked if she was ready she said that she would have to meet me out because there is a clause in her divorce that says she can not have men in the house. (Hear that one a lot in the Dominican Republic too.) I told her fuck that and deleted her. She knows that I have a girlfriend and was not about to be with her in public.[/QUOTE]This chick kept sending me messages so I gave her an ultimatum. She had me come way from downtown to her house in La Victoria Norte (17K Uber) only to go back down to a motel by the airport. This was my first time using one of those motels close to the airport and more than likely my last. I have been to motels in other areas that were not as expensive. At 99K, this Maryland Motel cost more than my 75K downtown hotel with free breakfast.

When we finished we walked outside and I paid the money to the guy walking the grounds. I called an Uber for myself because I was going to meet my girl at Hayuelos mall and I had the guy call a taxi for old girl. I did not have any change so I tried to give her 50K for the taxi (it was 25K from her house to the motel). She declined and told me that she has her own money.

As soon as we parted she started sending me messages. In pure woman fashion she goes on about how she is looking for her other half. Well what the fuck. When I met you I told you that I had a girlfriend and I even sent you a picture of us together. So where is all of this bullshit coming from? I never responded.

P.S. Is it possible to call 2 Ubers at one time from the same account on the same phone?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2131656]This chick kept sending me messages so I gave her an ultimatum. She had me come way from downtown to her house in La Victoria Norte (17K Uber) only to go back down to a motel by the airport. This was my first time using one of those motels close to the airport and more than likely my last. I have been to motels in other areas that were not as expensive. At 99K, this Maryland Motel cost more than my 75K downtown hotel with free breakfast.

When we finished we walked outside and I paid the money to the guy walking the grounds. I called an Uber for myself because I was going to meet my girl at Hayuelos mall and I had the guy call a taxi for old girl. I did not have any change so I tried to give her 50K for the taxi (it was 25K from her house to the motel). She declined and told me that she has her own money.[/QUOTE]There are several love motels just west of Pussy House. If I remember correctly prices are for 19 - 45 k for 3 hours.

Found this on PP.

[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/candente-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]-muy-completa-bbj-soy-traviesa-y-consentidora-id-3q5kg[/URL]

Any views on this spa? Is there a spa that would allow to stay for 4-5 hours and relax before and after the session?

Like the German FKK's? Thanks for your input.

SOMM.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2131656] I did not have any change so I tried to give her 50K for the taxi (it was 25K from her house to the motel). She declined and told me that she has her own money.

As soon as we parted she started sending me messages. In pure woman fashion she goes on about how she is looking for her other half. Well what the fuck. When I met you I told you that I had a girlfriend and I even sent you a picture of us together. So where is all of this bullshit coming from? [/QUOTE]Where is it coming from? It is coming from you. Your IDGAF attitude, your already having a woman, your unattainability and resistance to playing her game, is like cat nip to her. No woman wants a man that no other woman wants, but every woman wants a man that other women have. Your lovemaking really is good for her, because she knows she doesn't "have" you, so she must please you. She is competing with your girlfriend. You can take her or leave her. If she makes hooking up with her too complicated.

In the end, he who cares less. Wins.

[QUOTE=SexoOMyMind;2131731]Is there a spa that would allow to stay for 4-5 hours and relax before and after the session?

Like the German FKK's? Thanks for your input.

SOMM.[/QUOTE]



In the sex massage parlours in Bogota, you stay the time you spent with the girl, not more. The closest with FKK you might find in Bogota could be the sauna swing clubs. You enter, pay entrance, undress, put towel and sandals on, can stay as long as you want enjoying the sauna, hamam, jacuzzi and bar area, fuck as much as you want with the available working girls and if you are lucky with a female guest. Mansion has private rooms for adicional cost, in all other swing saunas, sex is public. Have a look in my Bogota FAQ for more information.

Can anyone give me some hotel options in Bogota? I'd like somewhere chica friendly. If its next to some spots where I can pick up ladies or good restaurants that's a plus also.

Complete new to this, only going for P4P, except Routard's recommendation of angelicialibid.

If anyone will be down there and would like to meet, PM me.

Can anyone tell me what the following means.

"gp" from. 1 hour with oral to natural and gp?

"hmh" from. Trio hmh?

"mhm" from. Trio mhm?

If. Sexo-oral-completo = swallow?

[QUOTE=Dante702;2133448]Complete new to this, only going for P4P, except Routard's recommendation of angelicialibid.

If anyone will be down there and would like to meet, PM me.

Can anyone tell me what the following means.

"gp" from. 1 hour with oral to natural and gp?
"hmh" from. Trio hmh?
"mhm" from. Trio mhm?
If. Sexo-oral-completo = swallow?[/QUOTE]GP is Garganta profunda = deep throat.

Hmh is hombre mujer hombre = two dudes, 1 chica.

Mhm is mujer hombre mujer = 2 chicas, 1 dude. Could be Atención a parejas = service to couples or Trío con dos prepagos = trio with two escorts.

Oral-completo is CIM. Probably spit, not swallow.

Hi gents,

I am on a tour in Colombia in mid February and would like to squeeze in some fun. I arrive in Bogota February 9 and head to Barranquilla for the Carnaval on the 10th, back on the evening of the 11th and then the tour starts on the 12th. I also have a day in Bogota at the end of the tour on the 11th and part of the 12th. During the tour we will stop in Medellin and Cartagena but I am unlikely to have much in the way of free time. And I do want to see the country!

Anyway. I have a couple of questions so far:

1. Is the Augusta hotel in La Candelaria likely to be chica friendly? (And no, I can't change the hotel. Long story) I would love to arrange a visitor for a nice massage and fun after a long flight. And I would be happy to hear recommendations. I like thin women with small boobs and am open to both young and more mature companions. (I'm 55) I've been looking at photoprepagos and lots of choice there--hard to tell what service will be like.

2. Alternatively I could head to a massage place the evening of the 9th. Any recommendations for something a little upscale with a combination of a good massage and good service on other fronts?

3. What else should I be thinking about?

Thanks in advance.

Just had a really terrible experience with Sofia from Photo Prepagos. It's been many years since that was her in her photos. Her ass is fat and not toned and her breasts have shrunk. She doesn't show her teeth in her photos because they are crooked. I really should have slammed the door once I saw her, but I'm too timid. I'm mad but also really sorry. That I did it and for her. She shouldn't be doing this type of work anymore.

This is my first time doing P4P. I really never used condoms in my life except to put them on at the last minute when I'm really close. I otherwise can't stay up when I use them.

Looking for advice. I'm up for switching up my plans. Paying a little bit for lots of girls, to paying a lot for quality girls. But I think I really need a situation where I don't have to use a condom? Maybe it's because none really fit me, because I'm a smaller dude.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

Going to Bogota for the first time, looking for model like escorts. Has anyone tried [URL]http://www.bogotaintima.com/index.html?[/URL] The pics seem too good to be true although the prices are very high.

I went to Bogota last year, used Woodman09 as my guide and stayed at 3 hotels that are walking distance to Santa Fe. Here is a short review.

[B]Guide[/B]

Woodman took me on the tour of every bar in Santa Fe, some we bought drinks and stayed for a while, some we left without doing anything as there was no reason to stay. We also toured the streets. He taught me about safety and how things work. I felt comfortable walking into bars, or talking to girls after that because I had been to all of them once already. His service made my trip so much better. Woodman also argued with the bar staffs a couple of times to get my money back because I was short changed. There is no question he takes care of his client. Another time we went out and I explicitly told him that I would pay for all drinks but he did not order because the drink was more expensive and it is not required for him to order drink. I only have positive experience with him so I strongly recommend his service. The only complain I have is his taxi friend did not come thru with a beauty girl I saw on his phone.

[B]Ibis Bogota Museo[/B]

Pros:
[LIST]Clean and new
Good Wifi.
Good view looking outside of Windows.[/LIST]
Cons:
[LIST]Small room.[/LIST]
About rate:

Weekends and weekdays rates are different. Weekends are cheaper than weekdays.

[B]Hotel San Francisco[/B]

Pros:
[LIST]Cheap.Close to Santa Fe, but not by much.[/LIST]
Cons:
[LIST]very dated, not very clean.
Lots of traffic noise, No sound proof windows, was given a room on the street side facing Transmileno station.
Almost no English is spoken here.[/LIST]
[B]Dann Avenida 19 Hotel[/B]

Pros:
[LIST]Clean. Very large room comparing to Ibis.[/LIST]
Cons:
[LIST]Spotty Wifi.[/LIST]
My room has only a small window but it is big enough for me.

About rate:

Woodman recommanded this place to me. I got 3 rates here. I walked into the hotel to check the place out, and was given a rate that was better than what was available on the internet. After checked in and saw the room, I went to front desk to make reservation for my remaining stay. The rate was around 130 mil, which was 20 or 30 mils cheaper than the walk up rate for the first night. They told me I can't get this rate on the phone.

[B]Transmileno[/B]:

You can take a bus right in front of the airport to Ibis. You can buy ticket / bus card at the bus stop from people wearing Transmileno vest.

I think this is the Transmileno naming system which contains a single character alphabet (destination hub) followed by a number (route).
[LIST]M is the hub near airport.
K is hub near Santa Fe / Museo Nacional.
86 is the line between airport M and K.
M86 is from airport to Santa Fe (Museo Nacional), K86 is the reverse direction on the same route.[/LIST]
The bars I like the most are Atunes and Troya. I like my experience at mezzanine, only been there once. I also like walking up and down Carrera 10 on weekends. The city closes Carrara 10 to cars and there are many vendors out on the street. I enjoyed the variety of the street foods. Uber is not reliable. The driver canceled frequently, and remember to close the car door very lightly, the drivers don't like the way I normally close the car door in US.

I stayed here for 2 nights, I had one chica come over. They called from the front desk and I said it was ok. I had prepaid in full from booking so the hotel did not have my CC info to bill me.

I did not like the hotel that much, no heat and it was getting down to 35-40 degree at night. La candelaria is not too far from all the action.

[QUOTE=ChosenWun;2133387]Can anyone give me some hotel options in Bogota? I'd like somewhere chica friendly. If its next to some spots where I can pick up ladies or good restaurants that's a plus also.[/QUOTE]

Hey, does any one have Lisa Ann's digits? She was older, in her 40's, great body, big bolt ONS and big ass. Please PM me. Back in June she said she was taking a break for a while and gave me her direct number.

[QUOTE=Dante702;2134505]Just had a really terrible experience with Sofia from Photo Prepagos. It's been many years since that was her in her photos. Her ass is fat and not toned and her breasts have shrunk. She doesn't show her teeth in her photos because they are crooked. I really should have slammed the door once I saw her, but I'm too timid. I'm mad but also really sorry. That I did it and for her. She shouldn't be doing this type of work anymore.
[/QUOTE]Sorry for your experience, but which Sofia are you referring to? There's a lot of Sofias on that forum. A link or extra info would help fellow mongers.

[QUOTE=Jwbobbitt;2133945]
1. Is the Augusta hotel in La Candelaria likely to be chica friendly? (And no, I can't change the hotel. Long story) I would love to arrange a visitor for a nice massage and fun after a long flight. And I would be happy to hear recommendations. I like thin women with small boobs and am open to both young and more mature companions. (I'm 55) I've been looking at photoprepagos and lots of choice there--hard to tell what service will be like[/QUOTE]As this question comes back and back again, can anyone report a hotel in Bogota that is [B]NOT [/B]chica friendly??

[QUOTE=Routard;2135589]As this question comes back and back again, can anyone report a hotel in Bogota that is [B]NOT [/B]chica friendly??[/QUOTE]Not exactly not-friendly, they just want their cut. The last one I contacted was Grand Park in Candelaria that wants 120,000 if the companion stays after 6 PM. I can understand $10 (they check IDs and stuff), but $40? Maybe cheaper places don't have this issues, IDK.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2135760]Not exactly not-friendly, they just want their cut. The last one I contacted was Grand Park in Candelaria that wants 120,000 if the companion stays after 6 PM. I can understand $10 (they check IDs and stuff), but $40? Maybe cheaper places don't have this issues, IDK.[/QUOTE]Just ask the hotel price for single occupancy and double occupancy as some hotels indeed have different prices for it. When you bring a girl, it's not written on her face if she is a pro, a casual or regular girl friend and nobody cares anyway. Any guest needs ID even if it's your wife you have been married with for 40 years.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2135760]Not exactly not-friendly, they just want their cut. The last one I contacted was Grand Park in Candelaria that wants 120,000 if the companion stays after 6 PM. I can understand $10 (they check IDs and stuff), but $40? Maybe cheaper places don't have this issues, IDK.[/QUOTE]That is how it is done in Colombia. My second time there it was me and 2 friends. We were going to Cali but had to spend the night in Bogota. Rather than get 3 separate rooms, we opted for 1 room with 3 beds. Did not know until checkout the next day that it was the same price had we gotten 3 separate rooms. Your best bet is to book on hotelsdotcom or something and say 2 people. That way you can avoid paying the Colombia way for the additional person.

Please share a link. It would be nice to know who to avoid.

[QUOTE=Dante702;2134505]Just had a really terrible experience with Sofia from Photo Prepagos. It's been many years since that was her in her photos. Her ass is fat and not toned and her breasts have shrunk. She doesn't show her teeth in her photos because they are crooked. I really should have slammed the door once I saw her, but I'm too timid. I'm mad but also really sorry. That I did it and for her. She shouldn't be doing this type of work anymore.

This is my first time doing P4P. I really never used condoms in my life except to put them on at the last minute when I'm really close. I otherwise can't stay up when I use them.

Looking for advice. I'm up for switching up my plans. Paying a little bit for lots of girls, to paying a lot for quality girls. But I think I really need a situation where I don't have to use a condom? Maybe it's because none really fit me, because I'm a smaller dude.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

So Sunday is my birthday and the house is causing problems so I am at the airport waiting for my flight to Bogata! If anyone is there now shoot me a message. Planning in staying at Parque 93 Holiday inn. I leave late Sunday night.

[QUOTE=Dante702;2134505]Just had a really terrible experience with Sofia from Photo Prepagos. It's been many years since that was her in her photos. Her ass is fat and not toned and her breasts have shrunk. She doesn't show her teeth in her photos because they are crooked. I really should have slammed the door once I saw her, but I'm too timid. I'm mad but also really sorry. That I did it and for her. She shouldn't be doing this type of work anymore.

This is my first time doing P4P. I really never used condoms in my life except to put them on at the last minute when I'm really close. I otherwise can't stay up when I use them.

Looking for advice. I'm up for switching up my plans. Paying a little bit for lots of girls, to paying a lot for quality girls. But I think I really need a situation where I don't have to use a condom? Maybe it's because none really fit me, because I'm a smaller dude.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I never recommend going raw in these girls. Just buy some viagra if you're having trouble with the condom. It's easy to get down there.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2135906]Please share a link. It would be nice to know who to avoid.[/QUOTE]This nightmare. I've never tried Viagra. I'm 29. Is it worth it?

Such good advice! Nice to see common sense and intelligence.

[QUOTE=HumanBeing1;2136109]I never recommend going raw in these girls. Just buy some viagra if you're having trouble with the condom. It's easy to get down there.[/QUOTE]

Dante,

I don't think is worth starting viagra at this age- wait 15-20 years when you really need it. At this age I would say dump the girl and get another one.

[QUOTE=Dante702;2136129]I've never tried Viagra. I'm 29. Is it worth it?[/QUOTE]Viagra cures the symptoms, not the cause. Are you possibly one of those guys who can't get it up with a real woman because you're too jaded from years of consuming porn? On the other hand, if it's only because you're not used to condoms, then better get used to them, to avoid STDs and child support. Try them out at home by yourself first to get comfortable. If size is an issue, there are brands (depending on your country) which sell condoms in different sizes, from XXS to XXL. Measure yourself and buy them online. Take a good supply with you because in Colombia there is only the one-size-fits-all available.

Don't buy Viagra unless you are a shareholder in Pfizer and want to see their profits grow. Buy sildenafil which is the same thing without the brand name. It is made as a generic by different laboratories in Colombia and you can get it at any pharmacy. I recommend Sildenafil Genfar 4 x50 MG for 6. 000 COP (2 USD). Compare that to the price in your country and you will know to what extent big pharma has captured your government.

You probably don't need 50 MG unless you have serious ED. Try taking half or even a quarter tab.

[QUOTE=Dante702;2136129]This nightmare. I've never tried Viagra. I'm 29. Is it worth it?[/QUOTE]Talk to your doctor about your problem. It's common. I can go with or without a condom, and get almost as much pleasure with a condom. Bareback can feel great but there are genuine long term consequences that could fuck your life up.

[QUOTE=Routard;2135900]Just ask the hotel price for single occupancy and double occupancy as some hotels indeed have different prices for it. When you bring a girl, it's not written on her face if she is a pro, a casual or regular girl friend and nobody cares anyway. Any guest needs ID even if it's your wife you have been married with for 40 years.[/QUOTE]Thanks Routard, but that's what I did. Here is the full exchange.

Hello,

Do you allow guest access if I book a double occupancy room?

Thanks!

Dear Mr. , good morning, I am afraid I do not understand your question.

Kinf regards,

Can I bring outside visitors to my hotel room?

Dear Mr. The outside visitors are allowed until 6:00 pm, but thy need to be registered at the front desk showing their ID Card; they can not be minors, otherway it access would not be allowed; if the visitor stay after 6:00 pm, you will need to pay $ 120.000 COP for the extra person.

Kind regards,

I might still try to book and see what happens, but it's disheartening. Now, I've checked some Airbnb listings, and some better ones state outright that guests are not allowed. Kinda sucks.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2136939]
Dear Mr. The outside visitors are allowed until 6:00 pm, but thy need to be registered at the front desk showing their ID Card; they can not be minors, otherway it access would not be allowed; if the visitor stay after 6:00 pm, you will need to pay $ 120.000 COP for the extra person.[/QUOTE]Things are pretty clear and it's like this in any hotel in Colombia: no problem to bring a girl unless she is minor, has to show ID and there is a different rate for single or double occupancy of the room. There is no difference if it's your wife you know for 30 years or a hooker you met 5 minutes ago. If you don't want to pay the double occupancy, bring the girl during day time or check other hotels which charge the same for single or double occupancy. Colombia is a free country and people respect private life. Don't feel unconfortable for these rules, it's not about morality it's about safety. You don't need to be specific with the hotel and call her "'guest"', which means that you have no sentimental relation with her, in other words that she is a hooker. Just call her "novia"'. There is nothing wrong coming in town, registring alone at your hotel and that the girl friend who lives in town comes and join you later during the night. It doesn't matter if you book double occupancy, claiming that your girl frind will come and register later or register single occupancy and change it later in double occupancy when the gril register herself. There is nothing wrong registring as a single at your hotel, going out, meeting a girl, love at first sight, and bringing her to your hotel room. And it's not of the business of the hotel that each night you have a different girl friend, it's not your fault that you are so popular. You don't owe any explanation at your hotel about your private life and hotel is not allowed to judge if you if your emotional relationship with your girlfriend is sincere or if she is just taking advantage of your financial ressources. Do as they would say in Colombia: "has el gringo'', which means basically do as if you are dump! Why would you care what the employee of the hotel might think about you?

So I ask again: can anyone report that there is a hotel in Colombia where access of an adult chica with ID was denied?

[QUOTE=Routard;2136991]At booking, pay double occupancy and when registring just say that your girl friend will come later in the night. You don't need to be specific and call her "'guest"', which means that you have no sentimental relation with her, in other words that she is a hooker. Just call her "novia"'. And it's not of the business of the hotel that each night you have a different girl friend, it's not your fault that you are so popular. ;)[/QUOTE]Let me add that when me and my girlfriend checked in to my usual hotel (under new ownership) a couple of weeks ago, the desk clerk said there would be an additional fee if I brought someone other than her during my stay. I booked it on hotelsdotcom to avoid that Colombia double occupancy fee.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2137003]Let me add that when me and my girlfriend checked in to my usual hotel (under new ownership) a couple of weeks ago, the desk clerk said there would be an additional fee if I brought someone other than her during my stay. I booked it on hotelsdotcom to avoid that Colombia double occupancy fee.[/QUOTE]Yes but you are allready too famous in your favorite hotel! Lol!

Was all over Santa Fe tonite (Sunday) -- Showing a friend around, there around 6;30 it was really slow on the street.

Hung around had some beers Walked around and by 8 ish there were a lot more girls. Nice action in Fiebre, Paisa, Troya-- But my new favorite club is La Casona-- That is next to Troya on 16 a. So Many Hot 18-20's Venezolanas (my favorite) and they will dance with you and you can grind on them-- Such good bad girls. -- Sessioned with a super cute 18 yo skinny sexy HS looking (she let me pull her hair! And was screaming). And than with another super pretty girl 8-9 with natural the cup and silver dollar nipples. Paid 60 Mil each ($23).

I should say I was in SF last night (sat) also and it was really off the Hook more than 3 times as many girls at 6 p. Was in Attunes and sessioned twice with a Really nice Calena. Paid 60 Mil each.

Last Monday was there also. Way better than Sunday. Met a Really hot Calena skinny pretty girl with DD Naturals on the 16th street (streety sweety) sessioned with her 3 times. She Rocked my world, paid $40 mil x3.

Sunday is a good time to go if you go about 8;30 or 9 p.

[QUOTE=Routard;2136991]Things are pretty clear and it's like this in any hotel in Colombia: no problem to bring a girl unless she is minor, has to show ID and there is a different rate for single or double occupancy of the room. There is no difference if it's your wife you know for 30 years or a hooker you met 5 minutes ago. If you don't want to pay the double occupancy, bring the girl during day time or check other hotels which charge the same for single or double occupancy. Colombia is a free country and people respect private life. Don't feel unconfortable for these rules, it's not about morality it's about safety. You don't need to be specific with the hotel and call her "'guest"', which means that you have no sentimental relation with her, in other words that she is a hooker. Just call her "novia"'. There is nothing wrong coming in town, registring alone at your hotel and that the girl friend who lives in town comes and join you later during the night. It doesn't matter if you book double occupancy, claiming that your girl frind will come and register later or register single occupancy and change it later in double occupancy when the gril register herself. There is nothing wrong registring as a single at your hotel, going out, meeting a girl, love at first sight, and bringing her to your hotel room. And it's not of the business of the hotel that each night you have a different girl friend, it's not your fault that you are so popular. You don't owe any explanation at your hotel about your private life and hotel is not allowed to judge if you if your emotional relationship with your girlfriend is sincere or if she is just taking advantage of your financial ressources. Do as they would say in Colombia: "has el gringo'', which means basically do as if you are dump! Why would you care what the employee of the hotel might think about you?

So I ask again: can anyone report that there is a hotel in Colombia where access of an adult chica with ID was denied?[/QUOTE]Since I'm a glutton for punishment (LOL) decided to follow up with a more specific question.

Hi,

So help me understand that.

I want to book a DOUBLE OCCUPANCY Presidential Suite.

Are you still going to charge me extra $120000 for bringing a visitor?

Thanks!

Here is the response.

Dear Mr. :

If you booked for double occupancy, you might registered with the other person at the same time, and It need to be the same person; you can not register differente persons during your stay.

Kind regards,

I clearly told them I wanted to book the most expensive room in the house. And they still want me to pay their extortionist $40 fee!

So basically it tells me they don't really give a shit about single or double occupancy. They are trying to do one of 2 things (or both).

1. Discourage punters from bringing working girls to their establishment.

2. Capitalize on it if you do.

This wasn't my first inquiry (although other hotels charge less). It's possible that I might or might not be able sneak a girl in, but honestly, I don't feel like arguing with front desk with a girl in a tow and risking $40 to find out. If anyone can recommend an upscale apartment (preferably with a hot tub) where I won't be bothered with stupid fees, please let me know. Traveling in April, thanks!

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2137622]Since I'm a glutton for punishment (LOL) decided to follow up with a more specific question.

Hi,

So help me understand that.

I want to book a DOUBLE OCCUPANCY Presidential Suite.

Are you still going to charge me extra $120000 for bringing a visitor?

Thanks!

Here is the response.[/QUOTE]If I remember correctly I believe a US president security staff had issues with this. I believe they objected to the fees and it became quite a public issue.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2137622]Here is the response.

Dear Mr. :

If you booked for double occupancy, you might registered with the other person at the same time, and It need to be the same person; you can not register differente persons during your stay.

Kind regards,[/QUOTE]Exactly how I told you it worked.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2137622]I clearly told them I wanted to book the most expensive room in the house. And they still want me to pay their extortionist $40 fee!

So basically it tells me they don't really give a shit about single or double occupancy. They are trying to do one of 2 things (or both).

1. Discourage punters from bringing working girls to their establishment.

2. Capitalize on it if you do.

This wasn't my first inquiry (although other hotels charge less). It's possible that I might or might not be able sneak a girl in, but honestly, I don't feel like arguing with front desk with a girl in a tow and risking $40 to find out. If anyone can recommend an upscale apartment (preferably with a hot tub) where I won't be bothered with stupid fees, please let me know. Traveling in April, thanks![/QUOTE]Why can't you face that this is just the way things are done in Colombia? It has nothing to do with hookers. I have never brought a hooker to my hotel in Colombia because I mainly deal with normal chicks. The times that I have fucked hookers, I have done it at a place that you can fuck onsite and once with a SW at a love motel in Barranquilla. Still the same rules apply when bringing nonpros, friends, or whoever.

Good luck trying to sneak someone past because in most of the hotels that I know you have to pass the front desk to get to the elevator. Only maybe in the Marriott can you sneak someone in IF the front desk is busy, because the elevators are on the other side and they may not see you come in if they are doing something else.

And they are not going to argue with you. They are just going to put it on your bill for you to pay at checkout as I have found out the hard way a couple of times.

Are there any places in Bogota where guys hang out. Costa Rica has the Sportsmans and the Dominican Republic has Sosua and Pattaya has-well Pattaya. But what does Bogota have?

[QUOTE=PirateMorgan;2137753]Are there any places in Bogota where guys hang out. Costa Rica has the Sportsmans and the Dominican Republic has Sosua and Pattaya has-well Pattaya. But what does Bogota have?[/QUOTE]If you are asking if there is an area where foreign mongers hang out then I would say no. The only time I really even see foreigners in Bogota is if I am staying at the Marriott or Courtyard Hotels. In the streets, no. At the malls or clubs, no.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2136627]Talk to your doctor about your problem. It's common. I can go with or without a condom, and get almost as much pleasure with a condom. Bareback can feel great but there are genuine long term consequences that could fuck your life up.[/QUOTE]Prior to AIDS sex without condom was the norm. I had no problem with BBFS. With the advent of AIDS condom use became the norm and I had problems getting or maintaining an erection with it. It took me quite a while before I could have decent sex with a condom. It takes time to get accustomed to it.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2137625]Exactly how I told you it worked.

Why can't you face that this is just the way things are done in Colombia?[/QUOTE]Why? I said, I was a glutton for punishment, LOL.

Look, this is going to be my first visit, so I've just been gathering information. I know there are love motels, but I want a freedom to bring someone in at nighton a whim. I was hoping this practice of charging for a guest was not as widespread, so I guess I was wrong. If it's not possible to get into a nice hotel without paying an outrageous "joiner" fee, then I need to focus on an apartment rental. It's just gotten clearer now, so -- thanks!

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2138055]Why? I said, I was a glutton for punishment, LOL.

Look, this is going to be my first visit, so I've just been gathering information. I know there are love motels, but I want a freedom to bring someone in at nighton a whim. I was hoping this practice of charging for a guest was not as widespread, so I guess I was wrong. If it's not possible to get into a nice hotel without paying an outrageous "joiner" fee, then I need to focus on an apartment rental. It's just gotten clearer now, so -- thanks![/QUOTE]At [URL]http://www.viaggio.com.co[/URL] double occupancy is 20 000 which is reasonable as breakfast is included for the second guest.

Guys,

I need your advice.

Recently I signed up for [URL]Colombiancupid.com[/URL]. Almost instantly I got tons of messages. It got overwhelming very fast. I am not the best looking guy, but in a very good shape. So I tried to keep up for a while then decided to narrow down to 3 ladies. They all very hot. Two of them professionals working for big companies and the other one is a student. All of them telling me that they don't want anything to do with Colombian men because none of them want to commit and want to have many women at the same time. I am not sure what makes them think that we are any better. All 3 want to meet and have relationship. I am really confused.

1. Is this some kind of set up?

2. Is it just their culture?

3. Should I even consider meeting them when I am in Bogota or just stick with working girls?

Thanks in advance.

So friggen great! Could not swing a dead cat without hitting a pretty girl. Less guys on Thursday. Tons of hot chicas on the streets and tons more in Fiebre, La Casona, Paisa, Venus- and the others.

It seems the Venezuelans are grouped in some clubs and they are fun! I was dirty dancing with a few. Check out La Casona, Lion, Venus, Punto Oro for the hot Venezuelans and tons more on the streets.

Wednesdays are good too.

[QUOTE=BigDude1;2139013]Guys,

I need your advice.

Recently I signed up for [URL]Colombiancupid.com[/URL]. Almost instantly I got tons of messages. It got overwhelming very fast. I am not the best looking guy, but in a very good shape. So I tried to keep up for a while then decided to narrow down to 3 ladies. They all very hot. Two of them professionals working for big companies and the other one is a student. All of them telling me that they don't want anything to do with Colombian men because none of them want to commit and want to have many women at the same time. I am not sure what makes them think that we are any better. All 3 want to meet and have relationship. I am really confused.

1. Is this some kind of set up?

2. Is it just their culture?

3. Should I even consider meeting them when I am in [URL=http://pasionprepagos.com]Bogota prepagos[/URL] or just stick with working girls?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Well, there's a lot of social and economic diferences in Colmbia. It's logical to think that some specific ladies might be looking for a tourist to get the life they want.

Of course I'm not saying every case is like this. But I think it's a fair guess on why you got ton of messages.

[QUOTE=BigDude1;2139013]Guys,

I need your advice.

Recently I signed up for Colombiancupid.com. Almost instantly I got tons of messages. It got overwhelming very fast. I am not the best looking guy, but in a very good shape. So I tried to keep up for a while then decided to narrow down to 3 ladies. They all very hot. Two of them professionals working for big companies and the other one is a student. All of them telling me that they don't want anything to do with Colombian men because none of them want to commit and want to have many women at the same time. I am not sure what makes them think that we are any better. All 3 want to meet and have relationship. I am really confused.

1. Is this some kind of set up?

2. Is it just their culture?

3. Should I even consider meeting them when I am in Bogota or just stick with working girls?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]When you first sign up on any dating site you will get tons of messages from hot girls. Most of the messages are from fake accounts used by the dating site. The purpose is to get you to subscribe. In the past I've received messages from the same girl in 3 different countries.

Most of the remaining messages are from people who want to separate you from your money. 99% of the long initial messages are from one of these 2 groups. My estimate may be a little low.

The real Colombians will send a simple "hola. " They will almost never send a message longer than 10 words.

What should you do? Depends on what you are looking for in Bogota. Are you looking for a wife? No? Then why waste your time on someone who is looking for a husband? Are you planning on making frequent trips to Bogota and want a girlfriend who you can spend time with? No? Then why waste your time with girls who are looking for a boyfriend?

Which leaves the working girls. You can find them on Colombian Cupid, on Tinder, on the mileroticos and photosprepagos websites. You can find them on the streets, in the spas, casas or clubs. If you hang out on the right spot, they'll find you.

Go for it! It is fabulous. I have met a ton of women, great women, and girls via the site. And I am no spring chicken. It is for real.

Back in Bogota. Hit sante Fe and found 40 k gems. Two chocolate beauties from Cali and one from Venezuela. For all the round, brown get down ass lovers. This is for you. Love me some Colombia.

Looking around in local Website I found this MILF in Bogota. Here is my reviews:

Name: Monica.

URL / Website: [URL]https://escortscolombia.net/escort/monica-3/[/URL].

General Area: Area called chapinero in Bogota.

Activities: BBBJ, DT, CIMNS, MPCFS, K9, K9 Greek, DFK and a lot more. MSOG.

Session Length: 1 HR+.

Fee: 100 USD.

Hair Length and Color: Long blond.

Age: high 32's.

Smoking Status: I couldn't tell.

Physical description: She looks just like her pictures. Face is covered in a mask but she is very cute.

Recommendation: Yes, full yes.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2139302]When you first sign up on any dating site you will get tons of messages from hot girls. Most of the messages are from fake accounts used by the dating site. The purpose is to get you to subscribe. In the past I've received messages from the same girl in 3 different countries.

Most of the remaining messages are from people who want to separate you from your money. 99% of the long initial messages are from one of these 2 groups. My estimate may be a little low.

The real Colombians will send a simple "hola. " They will almost never send a message longer than 10 words.

What should you do? Depends on what you are looking for in Bogota. Are you looking for a wife? No? Then why waste your time on someone who is looking for a husband? Are you planning on making frequent trips to Bogota and want a girlfriend who you can spend time with? No? Then why waste your time with girls who are looking for a boyfriend?

Which leaves the working girls. You can find them on Colombian Cupid, on Tinder, on the mileroticos and photosprepagos websites. You can find them on the streets, in the spas, casas or clubs. If you hang out on the right spot, they'll find you.[/QUOTE]Perfectly said. Want to ad to just be real and very upfront with the girls, state exactly what you are looking for early, like second message, this keeps you from wasting time.

Have fun!

TTM.

Bro,

Honestly in my opinion I think its more of a womans version if "game". They are looking for that lonely guy on here that will bite at the opportunity if have a beautiful exotic Colombian girlfriend. Their though process goes like this. Obviously any guy on Latina"cupid." Is looking for either love or sex. So if I get this guy to see me as a girlfriend and not as a working girl, I will have an advantage over the working girls. He will have to show me his sweet, affectionate, "giving" side. Its just a matter if time before she ask for money!

[QUOTE=BigDude1;2139013]Guys,

I need your advice.

Recently I signed up for [URL]Colombiancupid.com[/URL]. Almost instantly I got tons of messages. It got overwhelming very fast. I am not the best looking guy, but in a very good shape. So I tried to keep up for a while then decided to narrow down to 3 ladies. They all very hot. Two of them professionals working for big companies and the other one is a student. All of them telling me that they don't want anything to do with Colombian men because none of them want to commit and want to have many women at the same time. I am not sure what makes them think that we are any better. All 3 want to meet and have relationship. I am really confused.

1. Is this some kind of set up?

2. Is it just their culture?

3. Should I even consider meeting them when I am in Bogota or just stick with working girls?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2139749]Bro,

Honestly in my opinion I think its more of a womans version if "game". They are looking for that lonely guy on here that will bite at the opportunity if have a beautiful exotic Colombian girlfriend. Their though process goes like this. Obviously any guy on Latina"cupid." Is looking for either love or sex. So if I get this guy to see me as a girlfriend and not as a working girl, I will have an advantage over the working girls. He will have to show me his sweet, affectionate, "giving" side. Its just a matter if time before she ask for money![/QUOTE]True that about money, LISTEN ALL as I have experience on both CC and LAC for over 8 years, have had some great meet-ups, if they are between 18 and 30 NINETY-EIGHT (98%) percent are looking for money, if they are between 31 and lets say 45 EIGHTY percent are looking for money, over 45 it's probably FIFTY percent.

It is only a matter of time when they start asking about money and when they do they never stop. Hell I still have a rolo from 8 years ago asking (just got her text today), no shit welcome to Colombia!

But it is much cheaper than alimony and losing all or part of your hard earned dollars. REMEMBER this. The 3 F rule states that is it floats or fly's or fuck's only rent never buy.

TTM.

[QUOTE=Routard;2138383]At [URL]http://www.viaggio.com.co[/URL] double occupancy is 20 000 which is reasonable as breakfast is included for the second guest.[/QUOTE]Thanks Routard, will look into Viaggio.

[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2139749]Honestly in my opinion I think its more of a womans version if "game". They are looking for that lonely guy on here that will bite at the opportunity if have a beautiful exotic Colombian girlfriend. Their though process goes like this. [b]Obviously any guy on Latina"cupid." Is looking for either love or sex.[/b]. [/QUOTE]Hmmm. So if any guy on Cupid is looking for either love or sex, what is every other guy that is not on Cupid looking for? You guys must have some pretty bad luck. I have been on Cupid since 2005 and out of maybe 100 trips to Colombia have met less than 5 chicks that were looking for money.

[QUOTE=Enrique1993;2139558]Looking around in local Website I found this MILF in Bogota. Here is my reviews:

Name: Monica..[/QUOTE]Question:

Why would anyone visiting Colombia pay $100 for that? Seriously, that's worth no more than $20 anywhere in Colombia.

I guess another Bogota pimp has discovered ISG and thinks everyone is dumb enough to see a Bogota prepago that's asking 5 times what she's worth.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2139828]Hmmm. So if any guy on Cupid is looking for either love or sex, what is every other guy that is not on Cupid looking for? You guys must have some pretty bad luck. I have been on Cupid since 2005 and out of maybe 100 trips to Colombia have met less than 5 chicks that were looking for money.[/QUOTE]The key words are "have met."

I stopped bothering with the Cupid sites over a year ago. When I used them my numbers of girls asking for money weren't nearly as high as TTM says, but there were plenty who, after a few days of messages would ask for something. This was always before, thereby ending any chance of, meeting.

No problem if she tells me she charges for her services. Big problem if she's conveniently got a family emergency and wants a stranger to fix it.

Totally agree!

In my opinion "most" of the women on there are using the app for the same reason "most" of us are using it for. As a way to gain leverage. Just imagine how many men they meet on there coming to their town for a few days or weeks. Banging their brains out and leaving. The chances of a woman finding love or a real genuine relationship on here are "slim". Possible. But very slim. Most of them get jaded by us mongers. They start working us back by pretending they are vulnerable and on there looking for love and relationships but no damn well they are messaging 15 guys the same messages. I have a tactic! Once I'm talking to a girl I usually will give her the opportunity she is waiting on. Ill open conversations that would lead to discussing money and her lack there of. Every time they will bite and say can you send me just $XXX. XX. And then I stop responding. Rarely do you get a girl that says no I'm fine but thanks. Most of them have money in the back of their heads. Some are smart enough to wait until after you arrived to their country and drunkenly banged their brains out before they ask. But eventually. It will happen. Moms sick, cell phone bill, doctor bill, car broke down, college fees. They will have a story. Eventually some are just more patient than others

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2139925]The key words are "have met."

I stopped bothering with the Cupid sites over a year ago. When I used them my numbers of girls asking for money weren't nearly as high as TTM says, but there were plenty who, after a few days of messages would ask for something. This was always before, thereby ending any chance of, meeting.

No problem if she tells me she charges for her services. Big problem if she's conveniently got a family emergency and wants a stranger to fix it.[/QUOTE]

On Colombian Cupid I noticed two types of responses:

The first is a whatsapp number and some flirtatious messaging. This was usually brief as they wanted me to contact them on whatsapp. Once on whatsapp they asked me where I was and when I'd be in their city. "Avisas mi cuando llegues" or something along those lines. These were prepagos. A few would plead poverty and ask for money right away.

The second type would ask me what I was expecting from the site. They would refer to the site as "pagina" or page. "que busca de esta pagina?" What are you searching in this page? This was a frequent question by those who did not want to just jump on whatsapp. I rarely engaged them except for one who would message me a few times throughout the day and bored me to tears. A thick MILF in Bogota. I honestly just wanted to doggy that shit for a week. Looking back I should have just offered money and come clean. Maybe she would have agreed to meet.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2140028]The second type would ask me what I was expecting from the site.[/QUOTE]You will come across those questions on any kind of dating site or app, regardless of the location. Here in the US, all women seem to start the conversation with "So, what are you looking for here?" Its almost like a script and I have often wondered if it is a 'bot that is responding.

I came across it on Tagged, Hi5 and Badoo while trolling for freelance girls in Bali and Malaysia (next trip, next month). What they all seem to be saying is "I am looking for a committed relationship and you better be, too. " One girl from Belo Horizante saw me on Hi5, and pinged me with that opening line. When I didn't answer to her satisfaction, she said something like "I think you are not serious". So, I think that question is a global pain in the ass. I did meet some FL girls and none used that kind of verbiage.

[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2139998]Totally agree!

In my opinion "most" of the women on there are using the app for the same reason "most" of us are using it for. As a way to gain leverage. Just imagine how many men they meet on there coming to their town for a few days or weeks. Banging their brains out and leaving. The chances of a woman finding love or a real genuine relationship on here are "slim". Possible. But very slim. Most of them get jaded by us mongers. They start working us back by pretending they are vulnerable and on there looking for love and relationships but no damn well they are messaging 15 guys the same messages. I have a tactic! Once I'm talking to a girl I usually will give her the opportunity she is waiting on. Ill open conversations that would lead to discussing money and her lack there of. Every time they will bite and say can you send me just $XXX. XX. And then I stop responding. Rarely do you get a girl that says no I'm fine but thanks. Most of them have money in the back of their heads. Some are smart enough to wait until after you arrived to their country and drunkenly banged their brains out before they ask. But eventually. It will happen. Moms sick, cell phone bill, doctor bill, car broke down, college fees. They will have a story. Eventually some are just more patient than others[/QUOTE]True story of a colombian cupid girl I meet maybe 5 or 6 years ago, she showed me her inbox or interest / likes and unread messages and I shit you not it was something like 800. Of course she was damn good looking but she got as I recall 20 to 30 interests and or messages each day.

TTM.

Q: What are you looking for?

A: I want what you want.

Q: Are you having any luck on this site?

A. No. It seems all the women are after money/white guys (since I'm black - whatever you are, say the opposite)/visa/any other bullshit that you can think of.

I have met hundreds of chicks off Cupid and had plenty of real relationships. I do not think the chances are slim at all. At least they have never been for me. Most of my real girlfriends in the past few years I have met on there. Of course I speak the language of each place that I look for chicks. Some have used their own money to come see me in my country. Look for regular people with regular jobs if you want regular relationships. My girlfriend in Bogota works at an energy company and my girlfriend in Brazil is a school lunch lady. Neither has ever asked me for anything and they always pitch in to pay for stuff when we are together.

Of course women get tons of messages, afterall, they are women. That is why you have to make yourself standout by saying shit that nobody else is saying. It also helps if you know something about the place. I usually know more about where a chick lives than she does so she is intrigued. And I like to joke around a lot. I get messages from a lot of women only because they are angry that I put My Wallet as my best asset.

If you are just looking for a hooker then it is much easier and less time consuming to visit an onsite place once you are on the ground. Why go through all of that shit and having to worry about whether the person will be on time or even show up at all if fucking is all you want to do.

Respect bro!

It just depends on the girl. Some are genuinely looking for a relationship. I agree! But I can promise you just as many are looking for that amazon package in the mail also from their "boyfriend". Cupid sites are just conduits for people with all intentions to connect. But if you ask women how many guys just wanted to come to their country and smash and dash during their 7 day vacation. They would tell you a lot. They would be naive to think most guys on there are genuinely looking for love. Switch shoes. It would be naive to also believe most girls are genuinely on there looking for love. They use the site too just like we do. They might see your pictures and profile and really like you and treat you like a king. Use their own money to come see you. Pay for stuff and everything. But at the same time, have 12 other guys on their that they are taking full financial advantage of. So for the guy who's asking if they are really just trying to get money from him. I'm going to say yes unless she proves otherwise. Just like she should see a guy when he first messages her with the heart eye emoji. Hes trying to smash as many girls in your country as possible once he arrives until he proves otherwise. A lot of these women are very jaded by tourist. Fact!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2140257]Q: What are you looking for?

A: I want what you want.

Q: Are you having any luck on this site?

A. No. It seems all the women are after money/white guys (since I'm black - whatever you are, say the opposite)/visa/any other bullshit that you can think of.

I have met hundreds of chicks off Cupid and had plenty of real relationships. I do not think the chances are slim at all. At least they have never been for me. Most of my real girlfriends in the past few years I have met on there. Of course I speak the language of each place that I look for chicks. Some have used their own money to come see me in my country. Look for regular people with regular jobs if you want regular relationships. My girlfriend in Bogota works at an energy company and my girlfriend in Brazil is a school lunch lady. Neither has ever asked me for anything and they always pitch in to pay for stuff when we are together..[/QUOTE]

Totally agree on this! Cupid will get you a few girls that you can have a mental connection with once you arrive. But there are so many women there that will keep you busy if your paying. If you are not paying cold cash the only other way is to mentally get the panties so cupid is a good way to hack away at a girl in advance to prepare for your limited time once you arrive.

[QUOTE] If you are just looking for a hooker then it is much easier and less time consuming to visit an onsite place once you are on the ground. Why go through all of that shit and having to worry about whether the person will be on time or even show up at all if fucking is all you want to do.[/QUOTE]

Hey guys,

I've thumbed through the first few pages but was wondering if I could get a few answers to specific questions.

I'm contemplating my first trip to Colombia, heard good things about Bogota. I'm still somewhat new to international mongering, my only experience outside the states has been 2 recent trips to Sosua DR, which as you may know is a great time but is also mongering for dummies, like fish in a barrel. Looking to take "the next step" so to speak. Would you guys recommend Colombia in general, and / or Bogota specifically? Keep in mind I'm a decent looking white guy with minimal Spanish language skills. Curious what the budget is for ST / LT / TLN. And any recommendations on hotels that are nice and chica friendly.

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=MobToatl88;2140865]Hey guys,

I've thumbed through the first few pages but was wondering if I could get a few answers to specific questions.

I'm contemplating my first trip to Colombia, heard good things about Bogota. I'm still somewhat new to international mongering, my only experience outside the states has been 2 recent trips to Sosua DR, which as you may know is a great time but is also mongering for dummies, like fish in a barrel. Looking to take "the next step" so to speak. Would you guys recommend Colombia in general, and / or Bogota specifically? Keep in mind I'm a decent looking white guy with minimal Spanish language skills. Curious what the budget is for ST / LT / TLN. And any recommendations on hotels that are nice and chica friendly.

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]I suggest you forget about Bogota and go to medellin. Try reading some of the medellin posts. You may wish to consider staying at "the mansion", for someone on a first visit and that does not speak a lot of spanish, the mansion is a good choice. The chicas are onsite their and you should find plenty of willing company for around 150 K pesos. And, while you're there, go on a daytime visit to the el centro area downtown and visit some of the casas where you will find chicas for around 40/50 K pesos for full service short time /30 minutes. 60/75 K pesos for the hour. Finding a chica for all night is sometimes difficult as most of them have family obligations that prevent them from staying all night. Anyway, food is cheap, taxis are cheap, the weather is great. Forget Bogota for a first visit.

[QUOTE=Montani;2141361] You may wish to consider staying at "the mansion", for someone on a first visit and that does not speak a lot of spanish, the mansion is a good choice.[/QUOTE]Nothing against those who chose to stay in Mansion, it might be fine for some guys but it is defintively not to recommend for everybody. Some would feel like going to a zoo while in Kenya.

[QUOTE=Routard;2141589]Nothing against those who chose to stay in Mansion, it might be fine for some guys but it is defintively not to recommend for everybody. Some would feel like going to a zoo while in Kenya.[/QUOTE]Agreed. I speak only a few Spanish phrases but got around quite well on my own. Medellin isn't a hard town to navigate and the locals for the most part, are helpful folks. I used the Medellin Mongers Map and found where I needed to be okay. Its not in your face like some places in the DR or in Pattaya. You are looking for "casas" with no external signage or indicator that they are brothels. But, with a modest bit of searching you get rewarded for taking your carnal "safari". I liked Medellin because it offered a bit of adventure, as well as the fact that mongering is so cheap compared to other places. That said, I am probably ready for Bogota at some point in the near future.

[QUOTE=Routard;2141589]Nothing against those who chose to stay in Mansion, it might be fine for some guys but it is defintively not to recommend for everybody. Some would feel like going to a zoo while in Kenya.[/QUOTE]Actually the Mansion is great, perfect actually, for newbies to get a kick start on Medellin.

Not a must of course, however, if you base your trip simply on following the gringo map from casa to casa, you'll be missing a lot and not even know it really.

Especially if your Spanish is limited.

Doesn't matter to me one way or another how someone spends their Medellin vacation, however, the great contacts, both girls and yes, some cool guys that can help guide you, is invaluable.

I've been visiting Colombia for about 20 years now, and I still pop in now and then to see what's up and make some new contacts.

Enjoy!

[QUOTE=Balboa;2142169]Actually the Mansion is great, perfect actually, for newbies to get a kick start on Medellin.

Not a must of course, however, if you base your trip simply on following the gringo map from casa to casa, you'll be missing a lot and not even know it really.

Enjoy![/QUOTE]That's why I did last time, so please hip me on to what I was missing and what I should be doing next time. I did also peruse the street walkers over on Cr. 54 near the Morgan Hotel after dark. A bit of excitement there. After doing that, is there anything special about the Mansion? Hanging out with other gringos and overpaying for girls? Obviously, there is more than just the monger map and I would sure like to know what it is, being the adventurous type. After I come back from SE Asia next month, I think it will be time to plan a visit to MDE again.

Hello guys I will be at Bogota on easter Sunday just for 1 day do casas and strip clubs still be open on this day?

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2142186]That's why I did last time, so please hip me on to what I was missing and what I should be doing next time. I did also peruse the street walkers over on Cr. 54 near the Morgan Hotel after dark. A bit of excitement there. After doing that, is there anything special about the Mansion? Hanging out with other gringos and overpaying for girls? Obviously, there is more than just the monger map and I would sure like to know what it is, being the adventurous type. After I come back from SE Asia next month, I think it will be time to plan a visit to MDE again.[/QUOTE]Just keep doing what you're doing.
You got it all figured out.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2142483]Just keep doing what you're doing.
You got it all figured out.[/QUOTE]Seriously? Or are you just being snarky? Because I'm quite serious about knowing what I might have overlooked.

I'm not convinced that these forums cover all possible options. I am pretty sure a lot of mongering options are overlooked and underrated by many foreign mongers because they don't fit their mongering style, out of their comfort zone, or they can't be bothered to have an adventure. A bit of Groupthink going on, as I have noticed on certain other threads. And as a result there are the same predictable options reported here for many destinations.

I've mongered a lot of places. Normally through escort services and brothels. I've never done the street prostitute thing. Just the thought of being in Bogota in a cab looking for street prostitutes seems awkward for me, the driver, etc etc LOL. Anyone ever dobe it without being in their own car. How does it work normally in Bogota? Do you tell the cabby to do laps until you pick one? I mean anyone have experience with this? Did they hop in with you and ride back to your Hotel? Did you follow them into some shanty building? Details?

If you walk around the Santa Fe area you will find Chicas in the doorways of Motels.

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[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2143134]I've mongered a lot of places. Normally through escort services and brothels. I've never done the street prostitute thing. Just the thought of being in Bogota in a cab looking for street prostitutes seems awkward for me, the driver, etc etc LOL. Anyone ever dobe it without being in their own car. How does it work normally in Bogota? Do you tell the cabby to do laps until you pick one? I mean anyone have experience with this? Did they hop in with you and ride back to your Hotel? Did you follow them into some shanty building? Details?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheCarlAnthony;2143134]I've mongered a lot of places. Normally through escort services and brothels. I've never done the street prostitute thing. Just the thought of being in Bogota in a cab looking for street prostitutes seems awkward for me, the driver, etc etc LOL. Anyone ever dobe it without being in their own car. How does it work normally in Bogota? Do you tell the cabby to do laps until you pick one? I mean anyone have experience with this? Did they hop in with you and ride back to your Hotel? Did you follow them into some shanty building? Details?[/QUOTE]The girls usually are standing in front of the short time hotels in Santa Fe. You just take a walk in the area, and talk to the girl you like. They will take you inside the hotel. Other girls around the area not in front of the hotel, the process is the same. The bars usually have rooms on site, so you just get the service inside, mostly upstairs.

It's really nothing to it. Like World Travel says get out of the cab and walk around where the strip clubs like Fiebre and Paisas are because the other side is loaded with trannies. The girls stand there waiting to service you. I was there last year and had three very cost efficient very hot sessions. And don't worry about seeming awkward, sex for money doesn't carry the same stigma as it does in prudish old America. Have fun.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2143313]If you walk around the Santa Fe area you will find Chicas in the doorways of Motels.

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Hey Amigos. Curious to know your thoughts. I have experience mainly in Brazil and The Middle East. Coming down and wondered if it is safe and worth it to go to one of the big places solo? I speak average Spanish and can understand more than I speak. Will it just be a pain dealing with girls trying to rip me off? I am gringo and look gringo, can't hide it. I have done in call In Bogota years ago and it was good, not great (escort agency).

Any suggestions for a hotel near Santa Fe? Seems like the place to be for a first timer. Planning a trip this Wed-Sunday.

[QUOTE=Troyster;2143417]Hey Amigos. Curious to know your thoughts. I have experience mainly in Brazil and The Middle East. Coming down and wondered if it is safe and worth it to go to one of the big places solo? I speak average Spanish and can understand more than I speak. Will it just be a pain dealing with girls trying to rip me off? I am gringo and look gringo, can't hide it. I have done in call In Bogota years ago and it was good, not great (escort agency).[/QUOTE]I'm here solo right now. Routard's guide is great, use it. No problems at all. Check out the maps to get a sense of locations. Wish I had other hobbyists to catch up with, but that being said the pussy supply still flows. Tons of beautiful chicas all around.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2142861]Seriously? Or are you just being snarky? Because I'm quite serious about knowing what I might have overlooked.

I'm not convinced that these forums cover all possible options. I am pretty sure a lot of mongering options are overlooked and underrated by many foreign mongers because they don't fit their mongering style, out of their comfort zone, or they can't be bothered to have an adventure. A bit of Groupthink going on, as I have noticed on certain other threads. And as a result there are the same predictable options reported here for many destinations.[/QUOTE]Most of the mongering options have been covered. There's the streetwalkers, the clubs, casas, massage parlors, swingers clubs, Facebook, Tinder, Colombian Cupid, Seeking arrangements, online ads, girls working regular clubs and asking the taxi driver. There's also places like Flirt hotel or the Mansion and escort services.

Probably the area that is least utilized outside of Medellin is Facebook. My connections are leading me to plenty of chicas all over Colombia, many who look like good prospects for P4P. Not a single gringo in any of their friends lists.

If I was searching for uncharted waters, I'd start chatting up the girls in all the out of the way places. It probably means more traveling and Spanish skills will be important, but that's where the gems are. You can even start with Bogota.

[QUOTE=GreatScott;2143508]Any suggestions for a hotel near Santa Fe? Seems like the place to be for a first timer. Planning a trip this Wed-Sunday.[/QUOTE]No, Santa Fe or the Centro is definitvely inot the place to stay at a hotel for a first timer. I recommend to stay close to Zona T or Parque 93 for your first vist in Bogota.

I stayed at hotel San Francisco walking distance to Santa Fe. It was a nice place clean and quiet. Several restaurants and bars nearby.

[QUOTE=GreatScott;2143508]Any suggestions for a hotel near Santa Fe? Seems like the place to be for a first timer. Planning a trip this Wed-Sunday.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2142300]Hello guys I will be at Bogota on easter Sunday just for 1 day do casas and strip clubs still be open on this day?[/QUOTE]Hey everybody,

I thought I'd bump the question as I have the same question, though broader. I am considering ending my Medellin-Bogota trip with overlap in Bogota during March 29-April 1. Will there be many / any casas or massage places open during this time? I've heard Medellin will be a bust. So, I thought I'd check on Bogota since its a bigger city. Another option I'm considering is Aruba during that time. Thanks!

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2142300]Hello guys I will be at Bogota on Easter Sunday just for 1 day do casas and strip clubs still be open on this day?[/QUOTE]If you don't already have a novia in Bogota you will be most likely be shit out of luck. I avoid the entire the Semana Santa in all Latin Countries. Especially Easter Sunday! I have been to a few countries during Easter week but it was always with a girlfriend and her family or we would go to a beach resort for the week. You might get lucky at one of the beach towns but I highly doubt it and Bogota. Forget it. Maybe Santa Fe, check with Woodman about that. You can expect most businesses and even restaurants to be closed too.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2144410]If you don't already have a novia in Bogota you will be most likely be shit out of luck. I avoid the entire the Semana Santa in all Latin Countries. Especially Easter Sunday! I have been to a few countries during Easter week but it was always with a girlfriend and her family or we would go to a beach resort for the week. You might get lucky at one of the beach towns but I highly doubt it and Bogota. Forget it. Maybe Santa Fe, check with Woodman about that. You can expect most businesses and even restaurants to be closed too.[/QUOTE]: the I know its not best day to have fun, but I don't have other options I stay just easter Sunday at Bogota because I have next day fly to diffrent country. Hope will find some places at santa fe.

[QUOTE=Drf1987;2143918]I stayed at hotel San Francisco walking distance to Santa Fe. It was a nice place clean and quiet. Several restaurants and bars nearby.[/QUOTE]The windows are not soundproof, and the TransMilenio is right in front of the hotel so the street side is very noisy. Ask the hotel to give you a room not on the street side. They can be fully booked and not be able to move you. I decided to move out after one night.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2139019]So friggen great! Could not swing a dead cat without hitting a pretty girl. Less guys on Thursday. Tons of hot chicas on the streets and tons more in Fiebre, La Casona, Paisa, Venus- and the others.
It seems the Venezuelans are grouped in some clubs and they are fun! I was dirty dancing with a few. Check out La Casona, Lion, Venus, Punto Oro for the hot Venezuelans and tons more on the streets. Wednesdays are good too.[/QUOTE]Amen to that! It's been 9 long years since I was in Colombia and Bogota. I started off my trip in Medellin last week, then Jardin (non-mongering obviously but excellent), Pereira (only for an overnight. It wasn't good but then it's not supposed to be really. I guess if you were there for a long time, then it could be worked out). And now since earlier this evening. Bogota.

I'm 15 minutes walk from Santa Fe. My memory isn't great but from what I do remember, Santa Fe was never this great! OMG! - I've never seen so many gorgeous women in one place. It's like having a pocket full of dollars in a candy shop. I just didn't know which way to twist or turn. The neutrons were sparking a short circuit with the wonderful pussy in every direction. My memories of Santa Fe back then were not like this. Granted back then I did more afternoons than nights (I was green and was trying to look after my personal safety). But even the few nights I did try it, I doubt it was this good.

I didn't try all of the 'clubs' but tried a good few. I have to say. I also don't remember these damn guys hustling for business. It's overbearing. They're like flies on shit. I refuse to deal with them and go out of my way to insure they get no kickback from me ordering a beer at the bar. I know that may sound mean but I just can't support a role which just serves to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] people off.

I hooked up with a nice little Venezuelan chick. She was on a street corner and I was getting interested when those bloody guys in the white shirts interrupted and put me off. Went to Venus and the 3 girls turned up there. Made the deal with her for 50 k and headed over the road to a 'hotel'. She was a hot little thing but she was also sweet and sexy all in the one package. Not jaded by this work yet. She was as wet as a fish.

Whats the story with the girls in these clubs? Can they simply go into any club they like? I don't think I've seen that anywhere else in the World.


I walked the 15 minutes there - there were still a few normal people around at that time. I also walked the way back - there was hardly a soul on the streets. I didn't feel one bit threatened.

Greetings from Miami Guys,

Know there's tons of reports for all of Colombia but I thought I'the share my recent experience in Bogota. After all, I hate forum members that don't contribute. Trip started in early December visiting family. Could only spend a couple hours by myself but I made sure to take advantage of it. During the days I would hit las casas, in particular Chicas Milenio (Calle 71 # 14 A-20, white door) and Chicas 2000 (brown gate across the street). There are men standing there asking for you to enter, and they'll have the door open. Guys try these houses! The value is incredible, you'the be paying 150-200 per hour in the States. For both, you enter and they take you into a small room where the girls present themselves. Hit these places like 6 times while I was in Bogota. On average I'the say the girls were 6. 5 but there's a few stunners! Especially the Venezuelans (yum). Prices are from what I remember 30 k for 30 min. 45 k for 45 and 60 k for 1 hour (Might be getting confused. Don't quote me on the prices. The variety is OK, there's between 5-8 girls in each house, mostly triqueñas but a few negras as well.

At night I took a shot at Santa Fe. First, ufff, this place is rough. No lie, get an Uber and don't get out until you get there. Lots of murders happen in this area. The entrances of the popular clubs are safe but don't walk more than 2 meters out. Serious. Stay safe. Hit Paisas Club and La Picina. First Paisas Club is a god send. Serious there were some gorgeous women and only at 50-60 k a pop! $20! Jesssusss! Anyway found a girl for Pereira, gorgeous ass and breast. Breast were real, don't know about the ass, blonde highlights. A real Paisa. Might be in the top 3 women I have ever shacked with. La picina was a disgrace, no one was there. Seems like the girls are able to leave and come as they want, and the place gets more packed later at night 10+.

Life Lesson: Makes sure you have a good connection when it comes to your phone. My phone lost connection and my Uber couldn't find me. The buildings these strip clubs are in are tall, so get signal is hard. Make sure you get a Colombian phone to hit this place. Had to take a taxi. Which if you watch the news, isn't recommended in Bogota, unless you call it in. Made it safe but wouldn't do it again. Although that ass from Pereira was delish haha.

Tip: Use Uber. It's safer and easier. You can pay both on card and cash. Also sit in the front seat, it seems that taxis attack the Uber's since they are stealing business.

Happy hunting, PM me for details.

[QUOTE=JjWalker03;2145017]At night I took a shot at Santa Fe. First, ufff, this place is rough. No lie, get an Uber and don't get out until you get there. Lots of murders happen in this area. The entrances of the popular clubs are safe but don't walk more than 2 meters out. Serious. Stay safe. .....Life Lesson: Makes sure you have a good connection when it comes to your phone. My phone lost connection and my Uber couldn't find me. The buildings these strip clubs are in are tall, so get signal is hard. Make sure you get a Colombian phone to hit this place. Had to take a taxi. Which if you watch the news, isn't recommended in Bogota, unless you call it in. Made it safe but wouldn't do it again. Although that ass from Pereira was delish haha.[/QUOTE]Perhaps I'm lulling myself into a false sense of security and will be crying into my cornflakes before long. However, whilst scumbags abound in this location, I didn't feel that I was ever in a situation that was out of hand although I'm sure there's potential if you drop your guard. I've milled about that area for the past few nights. I've also walked back to my hotel - 20 minutes away. I walk with purpose and I keep my radar up at all times, don't interact with scumbags that try to engage me on the streets (as that's never going to be an interaction that leads to anything positive) and keep moving. I enjoy a few beers but make sure that I don't stay so long as to get twisted.

Troya seems to have the best talent. Also, the grill just outside the door is excellent. These guys out on the street (touting to bring you in to a club) are a complete menace. They really destroy the experience. I don't get what the deal is either. Originally, I thought they were looking for a tip or that I'd end up paying more for beer with them having 'brought me in' (and believe me, none of them have brought me in anywhere!) but that doesn't seem to be the case. Some of the time, they get a token from the barman but this doesn't seem to be coming out of the price of my beer. What's incredibly annoying still is when entering a club and just wanting to chill and take it all in, they're hanging out of you. I feel like bursting the head off them and did lose my temper with about 5 of them swarmed around me ....not smart at all on my part but I just couldn't help it.

I visited a couple of the day casas earlier in the week. I have to say I find it awkward when they present the girls and they all stand there waiting for your choice! Not a problem if you have a choice to make but when you don't?. Other places, at least they do the line up and the girls shuffle away again. Visited 2 places and had to pass. The guy took me to a place a block away and there was one chica there that caught my eye. Can't argue with the value for money aspect regardless of the line up. Although I'd love to visit a place that's as good as New Life in Medellin. They've got a good setup. Fine girls, good choice, clean girls and clean place

[QUOTE=Joe100;2145636].... I have to say I find it awkward when they present the girls and they all stand there waiting for your choice! Not a problem if you have a choice to make but when you don't?. Other places, at least they do the line up and the girls shuffle away again....[/QUOTE]The vast majority of casas worldwide present the girls one by one. However, I much prefer when all the girls are in front of me; its much easier to make a decision. In places like Energy in Medellin where there can be over 20 girls in the lineup I invariably have to ask the mamasan to ask some of the previous girls to show themselves again and I must walk with pen and paper to note the names of the girls so I can make the best choice possible.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2145672]The vast majority of casas worldwide present the girls one by one. However, I much prefer when all the girls are in front of me; its much easier to make a decision. In places like Energy in Medellin where there can be over 20 girls in the lineup I invariably have to ask the mamasan to ask some of the previous girls to show themselves again and I must walk with pen and paper to note the names of the girls so I can make the best choice possible.[/QUOTE]Funny I do the same with "pen and paper" to jot down either their name or number (sometimes displayed on their bikinis) otherwise my brain gets literally lost with meeting 20 plus chicas.

TTM.

Glad to hear other Gringos are having fun in SF!! I was there Friday 2-23 showing a someone around. As usual Super Cute girls on the street -Streety Sweeties- all around. Went into all the clubs accept Picina-- There is a new club called Ibiza, next to Castillo. I think they are probably expensive compared to others in Santa Fe—Looks Nice though.

Spent a lot of time in California—That is another club with lotsa Venezolanas. We partied with a few girls was – If you are fun they are fun! If you can be smooth it's so fucking great you can check their boobs and grab-ass / pussy with impunity! Girls will be doing lap dances for 2-4+ guys at once they look like they are being gang-banged-- 3-4 girls doing lapdances around you is like a West World orgy.

I sessioned there for 40 milThere are 2 new clubs on 16 a, Eiffel and Eclipse, all new—Went into Eclipse they had girls all wearing the same dress—I was tempted to session with one but I was guiding.

There are so many clubs and not enough guys so the touts are just obnoxious—I'm say, Ya Regresso or Despues or No Puedo—They can be relentless.

Sometimes I will give them 1 mil just to get them to leave me alone.

With the wacky Metoo world we live in I wonder how long a place like SF can exist—What about all the writings here—how long before we are condemned?

[QUOTE=Routard;2143805]No, Santa Fe or the Centro is definitvely inot the place to stay at a hotel for a first timer. I recommend to stay close to Zona T or Parque 93 for your first vist in Bogota.[/QUOTE]I took Routard's advice and stayed by Parque 93. Nice safe area and within walking distance or short taxi ride to many choices.

Thanks again are.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2143668]

If I was searching for uncharted waters, I'd start chatting up the girls in all the out of the way places. It probably means more traveling and Spanish skills will be important, but that's where the gems are. You can even start with Bogota.[/QUOTE]That sounds like a call to action. And time to get serious about learning Spanish. Off the beaten path. But, first I need to get SE Asia out of the way next month.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2144410]If you don't already have a novia in Bogota you will be most likely be shit out of luck. I avoid the entire the Semana Santa in all Latin Countries. Especially Easter Sunday! I have been to a few countries during Easter week but it was always with a girlfriend and her family or we would go to a beach resort for the week. You might get lucky at one of the beach towns but I highly doubt it and Bogota. Forget it. Maybe Santa Fe, check with Woodman about that. You can expect most businesses and even restaurants to be closed too.[/QUOTE]With the new Venezuelan influx, I wonder if it will be a little different in terms of girls available during this time. Essentially, a lot of the girls are in country as refugees with no family in country and no willingness to go back to Venezuela.

Santa Fe is definitely dangerous. Not trying to seem preachy but look at this map of murders in Bogota. Santa Fe, especially the area with the strip clubs is lit up. It's safe around the clubs, just be careful.

Also, be careful with your drinks, Colombian women are notorious for drugging people and stealing everything they can. They'll take you to the bank and try to empty out as much as possible.

Sorry, don't mean to be a Debbie downer, but I think you guys should know. I'm an expat (well not really, came to the US super young).

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2145745].....Sometimes I will give them 1 mil just to get them to leave me alone....[/QUOTE]We have a different modus operandi which is understandable as different people react differently even to the same situation. My experience has taught me to always resist giving money to people who have rendered no service to me especially if they are able bodied. If these same guys see you on another occasion they will hound you down more than they would have if you never gave them money. If no one pays them any attention they will find another mode of 'employment'.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2145977]If these same guys see you on another occasion they will hound you down more than they would have if you never gave them money. If no one pays them any attention they will find another mode of 'employment'.[/QUOTE]I agree completely. However, the bars are the ones paying them from what I can see. It's a shame that the bar owners can't put their heads together and figure out that this most frustrating circus only serves to destroy business down there rather than increase it.

None of those guys have led me anywhere but they're like flies on s**t. It's not just the hassling on the street. When I check out a bar, I want to get a sense of the place, whether I want to stay in it, etc. There's nothing worse than these guys pressuring you. I really can't stand it. They don't get 'paid' until you order a drink. I order all my drinks at the bar. Yet we still have the ludicrous scenario where one of these guys stands beside me at the bar and tries to order it for me (and sometimes succeeds) - so the transaction goes between 3 parties rather than 2.

I know these guys must be pretty desperate to work a 'job' like that but it's cringeworthy that their 'job' is so utterly pointless.

[QUOTE=Joe100;2146014]I agree completely. . It's a shame that the bar owners can't put their heads together and figure out that this most frustrating circus only serves to destroy business down there rather than increase it.[/QUOTE]I agree 200%. Trouble is that these club owners have very low level in tems of marketing skills. Needless to try to argue with the employees, they are just paid for it. I discussed once with an owner trying to explain that he is paying somebody for a counterproductive work, but he just couldn't get it. I always avoid as a plague any restaurant with someone with a flag in front to try to get you in as most are indeed ripp offs. Same for the clubs, I just avoid the ones with hassling employees. It's that not that is a lack of offer anyway for us that we just have to accept to be hassled.

To get rid of the persistent pests after tips, I have learned to stock up on cheap candy after Halloween or Valentine's day when it is on sale and keep a couple of pieces in your pocket when walking around. Blowpop suckers, tootsie rolls in bags etc for 99 cents etc as cheap as possible. Then when you are hassled for tips by the undeserving, hand them a piece of candy and walk away! Works like a charm and costs almost nothing for peace of mind.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2145977]We have a different modus operandi which is understandable as different people react differently even to the same situation. My experience has taught me to always resist giving money to people who have rendered no service to me especially if they are able bodied. If these same guys see you on another occasion they will hound you down more than they would have if you never gave them money. If no one pays them any attention they will find another mode of 'employment'.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2145863]With the new Venezuelan influx, I wonder if it will be a little different in terms of girls available during this time. Essentially, a lot of the girls are in country as refugees with no family in country and no willingness to go back to Venezuela.[/QUOTE]I was wondering the same- I think there will be a few of these pretty girls working the street.

[QUOTE=Travv;2146052]Then when you are hassled for tips by the undeserving, hand them a piece of candy and walk away! Works like a charm and costs almost nothing for peace of mind.[/QUOTE]Telling them no also works like a charm and truly costs nothing! (Not sure what kind of peace of mind you get from giving someone candy.).

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2146205]Telling them no also works like a charm and truly costs nothing! (Not sure what kind of peace of mind you get from giving someone candy.).[/QUOTE]Maybe the candy is laced with scopolomine and you can instruct them all to make their way to the set of The Walking Dead?

No usually works for everyone else. However, they are the exception. You can ignore them but one of them will 'attach' itself to you and stick to you like crap on a blanket. At the end of the day, you're going to walk into one of the bars and they'll then get their token from the barman....then try and highjack your drinks order. When I do ignore them (and I always do), one of them will put their greasy hand on your back. Drives me demented.

[QUOTE=Travv;2146052]To get rid of the persistent pests after tips, I have learned to stock up on cheap candy after Halloween or Valentine's day when it is on sale and keep a couple of pieces in your pocket when walking around. Blowpop suckers, tootsie rolls in bags etc for 99 cents etc as cheap as possible. Then when you are hassled for tips by the undeserving, hand them a piece of candy and walk away! Works like a charm and costs almost nothing for peace of mind.[/QUOTE]I am going to see for myself in the next two weeks as I have a visit to SF area planned BUT with a colombian friend of mine who grew up dirt poor in medellin, I am sure he will handle it, jajajaja.

I will report back my experiences on the hassling.

TTM.

Gents,

I'm heading there tonight until Sunday or Monday. I've read many of the pages here and appreciate the info I will add to this forum daily if possible. And hopefully more on the photo gallery.

I'm in Bogota for the best part of a week now. I've tried different places and found that the quality of the experience is directly proportional to the street number. In other words, my session at calle 100 was five times as good as my session at calle 20.

The first data point was an hour with massage (100 k) at the mezannine (calle 103) where I found a very cute girl. She had the rarest of sights, some hair above her pussy, which is something I love.

The second data point was in a bar in SantaFe RLD (calle 23) where I chose a morena flaca. In the room it turns out her shapely tits are fake, but not of silicone but of fibreglass, at least that's how hard they felt. Her attitude was similar. I had asked her if she kisses and the said yes but in the room her lips wouldn't touch anything but the condom. I had asked how long and she said half an hour, but after 15 minutes there was the dreaded knock on the door. She at least gave me a minute to finish, but she was out the door before I had taken the condom off.

I don't know about "street sweeties", all the girls there look like hardened pros to me, and some on the streets look very young.

Another good experience was a very tight Venezolana at Tantra Spa carrera 20 a #72-30. This place is marked wrong on WT69 map where it is shown on cra 20 c. Here BBBJ is included in the standard rate of 50 k 30 min, 60 k 40 min, 70 k 50 min, 80 k 60 min.

If I extrapolate my data to south Bogota, the experience would have to be negative, which could mean you get robbed or hurt or both.

All in all, trust in Routard's Bogota FAQ, it is spot on in everything.

[QUOTE=Arcangel;2147383].... but she was out the door before I had taken the condom off.....[/QUOTE]Not necessarily hardcore, just a woman who really hates her job.

[QUOTE=Routard;2146039]I agree 200%. Trouble is that these club owners have very low level in tems of marketing skills. Needless to try to argue with the employees, they are just paid for it. I discussed once with an owner trying to explain that he is paying somebody for a counterproductive work, but he just couldn't get it. I always avoid as a plague any restaurant with someone with a flag in front to try to get you in as most are indeed ripp offs. Same for the clubs, I just avoid the ones with hassling employees. It's that not that is a lack of offer anyway for us that we just have to accept to be hassled.[/QUOTE]I will be in Bogota next week flying from Europe. As far as I know, not very good hotels in or close to Santa Fe area.

Routard,

If you are available to show me around a bit it would be perfect. Spanish not a problem and Routard sounds to me french or french canadian. Thanks.

Tavares.

If the candy "bribe" doesn't work to get rid of the shoeshine dude, tout, beggar, talon or whatever, one method I learned by accident will. I had a shoeshine guy hassling me and he was so busy talking to me asking for money that he didn't see the lamppost. He ran into that sucker, fell to the ground, and I kept walking. Telephone poles and lampposts can be helpful!

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2146538]I am going to see for myself in the next two weeks as I have a visit to SF area planned BUT with a colombian friend of mine who grew up dirt poor in medellin, I am sure he will handle it, jajajaja.

I will report back my experiences on the hassling.

TTM.[/QUOTE]

OK. Arrived last night. Checked into the Marriott by the airport around midnight.

Hit up Lidl. Today I hit Santa Fe. Now taking a break and probably back to SF. Not sure yet.

If anyone has any recommendations from recent trips please PM me. I got a driver so I can get around.

My friend is not a good monger. I will write detailed report as soon as I can.

Ohhh. And don't recommend places like LIDL that the first girl told me 300 for 1 hour +80 for the room.

I almost smacked her.

But a place like that where the girls are not crazy that would be cool.

I'm thinking of piscina for later tonight.

So a little background.

I'm 42 good looking. Great Spanish.

20 times to Brazil.

10 times to Europe.

10 times from Central America and Caribbean.

My friend is a mongger's worst nightmare. He's the asshole that gives these girls the balls to ask for exorbitant amounts. You know the type.

So it's a little after midnight and our driver from the Marriott takes us to Lidl.

He figured we are rich assholes with more money than brains.

When we arrived and the walked through the doors. Playboy mantion was the only thing that came to mind.

About 60 girls. 85% are 10's. The rest are 9's. And maybe there might have been 3 that I would consider 8. However my friends. At least 4 girls I would have to give them 11 or 12. That's how hot they were.

Drinks. 40,000 pesos for a corona that's their cheapest drink. Some bottles were upwards of 2 million pesos.

There's a couple of girls that provide nude shows.

None of the girls seemed to be enjoying themselves. All were looking for a target. Not a very happy atmosphere. My idiot friend ended up spending about 400 USD just on drinks and tipping the girls that would sit with him. So sad.

We end up staying until closing. We did not take any girls home. And he got wasted.

Now. I did not know that Bogota is so high up. Higher then Colorado supposedly. Altitude does take a huge effect on how much you can drink. I also didn't realize that it's not that warm here. LOL. I packed for summer. Big mistake.

Anyway. I highly recommend that everyone hit this spot to have a drink just to say you have been there. Other than that. No thank you.

The first girl that sat with us asked for 80 USD for the room and 300 USD for her.

Second girl. 28 yo amazing girl. Asked for 180 USD For her.

Third girl at the end of the night asked for 120 USD for her. She was around 35 yo typical huge fake tits and ass.

Didn't find out how much barfine is since we weren't taking them out.

More to come on day 2 when I get a chance. And you guys are going to hate me LOL.

How stupid would I be heading down to Sante Fe on my own?

Understanding it is not a truly safe place, is it so much of a war zone that an individual who is aware of his surroundings, doesn't get hammered in the clubs, etc, still should not take a taxi to a club? Or just not club hop?

Just curious to see the show.

Great report and love to hear you busting on your novice wing you have in tow.

I was in Santa Fe this weekend and was crowded as fuck but you can't beat the supply of some 500 or more girls to choose from between all the clubs and those on the street. I am a pick mofo so I hate looking at prepago sites where photo looks good and then get disappointed when she shows up at your door. Awkward. In Santa Fe its all there right in front of you and you get a chance to talk with the girl and get a feel for her before you decide.

Looking forward to reading your day 2 report, I suspect its going to be about your adventure in santa fe.

[QUOTE=Intltvlr;2148183]So a little background.

I'm 42 good looking. Great Spanish.

20 times to Brazil.

10 times to Europe.

10 times from Central America and Caribbean.

My friend is a mongger's worst nightmare. He's the asshole that gives these girls the balls to ask for exorbitant amounts. You know the type.

So it's a little after midnight and our driver from the Marriott takes us to Lidl.

He figured we are rich assholes with more money than brains.

When we arrived and the walked through the doors..[/QUOTE]

Hey gents.

First time to Bogota next week. Thank you Routard for your guide. Much appreciated.

Does anyone have an update on the Monasterio events? Still going on as mentioned in the guide? Reverse Gang bang event anytime soon?

Thanks.

Taco.

First. Thank you perrochino. My pleasure. But you need to wait on my very detailed report of day 2. Which just happened to be the greatest day of my LIFE and you're right. Sure has to do with Santa Fe.

Ok. So here we go.

Yesterday I was taken to zona Rosa. Regular área to meet regular girls. Very nice spots to eat. I don't have time to make girlfriends. Neither do I want to. I'm here for P4P and if something else happens so be it. But I'm not wining and dinning anyone. But since you do need to eat. I recommend this area very much.

After that we w my to the neighborhood where mansion is at. I believe Avenida 1 de maio. (Not sure). Anyway.

Pereira was my first stop. Saturday night by the way. There's about 35 girls all around the 6 range. You might find a lost hot one. But don't count on it. Atmosphere was ok. Couple of locals dancing with the girls. Definitely a place you can waste a girl's time and she won't care. Not my scene. I left.

Mansion 2nd stop. I had good expectations. It's fucking tiny. They should rename it closet. I walked out as fast as I walked in.

Las Vegas 3rd stop climbed the fucking 4 floors to walk into a small ass place. Where everyone looked like they are in detention.

I left.

Went to Santa Fe.

Now! I know we should all expect a certain risk in this hobby and I don't recommend anyone going out of their comfort zone.

But my friends. I believe I came up with the schematics to help everyone out.

1st Santa Fe during the day. I personally felt safe walking around. Keep in mind. It's only really 5 blocks that have any action. And most of it is in 3 blocks. So come on. Grow some balls. And there plenty of cops.

1st step. Go get laid in Santa Fe. Forget all other spots. Forget massage parlors. Forget everything. During the day the outdoor action is great.

2nd step. (And here is the Gold) some of the girls that work at paisas and all the other houses at night. They work outside during the day. WTF why pay 70,000 pesos at paisas or anywhere else? When you can walk across the street and get laid for 35,000. Soooo my friends. I'm a smoker and some of these casas you cannot smoke. So I stay in a casa watch all the shows talk a bit to the girls. But not enough for them to get comfortable unless I really like them. Get all worked up. Go for a cigarette walk across the street or around the block. Go fuck a hottie for 35,000 and then I go back into the casa to have another drink. Now you get it? LOL. Not to mention places like piscina that I got quoted as high as 400 USD for barfine and TLN. Anyway. It's been 3 nights 2 days so far. And it's been 8 girls. Details to come. Right now. Back to mongering time is wasting.

[QUOTE=Tacoma101;2148499]Hey gents.

First time to Bogota next week. Thank you Routard for your guide. Much appreciated.

Does anyone have an update on the Monasterio events? Still going on as mentioned in the guide? Reverse Gang bang event anytime soon?

Thanks.

Taco.[/QUOTE]Yes, but you missed the reverse gang bang, it was last Thursday. And it was amazing! Next is in June.

[QUOTE=Intltvlr;2148534]

After that we w my to the neighborhood where mansion is at. I believe Avenida 1 de maio. (Not sure). Anyway.

Mansion 2nd stop. I had good expectations. It's fucking tiny. They should rename it closet. I walked out as fast as I walked in.

[/QUOTE]Thanks for your report. I Have no idea however where you entered, but it's not the Mansion. The Mansion is a swing club in Chapinero that cannot be described as tiny.

I visited last week, Santa Fe is safe during day. Stay between calle 22 & 24; west of Carrera 14.

[QUOTE=JetDork;2148468]How stupid would I be heading down to Sante Fe on my own?

Understanding it is not a truly safe place, is it so much of a war zone that an individual who is aware of his surroundings, doesn't get hammered in the clubs, etc, still should not take a taxi to a club? Or just not club hop?

Just curious to see the show.[/QUOTE]

LOL. Yes. Streetie Sweeties! $35.000 -$50.000. I fall in Love every month at least.

[QUOTE=Intltvlr;2148534]Went to Santa Fe.

Now! I know we should all expect a certain risk in this hobby and I don't recommend anyone going out of their comfort zone.

But my friends. I believe I came up with the schematics to help everyone out.

1st Santa Fe during the day. I personally felt safe walking around. Keep in mind. It's only really 5 blocks that have any action. And most of it is in 3 blocks. So come on. Grow some balls. And there plenty of cops.

1st step. Go get laid in Santa Fe. Forget all other spots. Forget massage parlors. Forget everything. During the day the outdoor action is great.

2nd step. (And here is the Gold) some of the girls that work at paisas and all the other houses at night. They work outside during the day. WTF why pay 70,000 pesos at paisas or anywhere else? When you can walk across the street and get laid for 35,000. Soooo my friends. I'm a smoker and some of these casas you cannot smoke. So I stay in a casa watch all the shows talk a bit to the girls. But not enough for them to get comfortable unless I really like them. Get all worked up. Go for a cigarette walk across the street or around the block. Go fuck a hottie for 35,000 and then I go back into the casa to have another drink. Now you get it? LOL. Not to mention places like piscina that I got quoted as high as 400 USD for barfine and TLN. Anyway. It's been 3 nights 2 days so far. And it's been 8 girls. Details to come. Right now. Back to mongering time is wasting.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JetDork;2148468]How stupid would I be heading down to Sante Fe on my own?

Understanding it is not a truly safe place, is it so much of a war zone that an individual who is aware of his surroundings, doesn't get hammered in the clubs, etc, still should not take a taxi to a club? Or just not club hop?

Just curious to see the show.[/QUOTE]Leave the phone at home. Take your peso out of your wallet. Leave wallet and cards at home and just have whatever cash you need with you. Have a few drinks but not so much as you've lost control. Make sure all drinks are opened in front of you. Keep your radar up. And other than that, enjoy.

So, to prove wrong the rule I just formulated, I had a very good experience at calle 65. In the dive bars in this area you can have a quickie for 25 k, but the girls are well worn and you get what you pay for. At the other end of the scale there's:

Nenas Bogota in the hotel at calle 65 #14-37.

You go upstairs and at the reception you pay 10 k to be allowed in to see the girls (they promise to give back your 10 k if you come out within 5 mins). I was presented 8 fine looking girls and chose a tall thin Venezolana (24), beautiful like a Bollywood filmstar, with augmented breasts, and very friendly attitude. In Venezuela she was an accounting graduate and engineering student. , now she works in Bogota to feed her family. The session is 60 mins for 150 k. Open Mon.-sat 24 h.

I thought that between WT69 and Routard, every place in Bogota was documented. But I found one that's not on the map:

Akira Spa, Cra 24 #52-68 (near mall Galerias), white door, ring bell 301,9 am-9 pm, sun -6 pm.

Massage+FS 60 mins 150 k, tel+whatsapp 3223712050.

Akira is a bit like the massage places at the Mezannine, only better in every way. 10 girls in the lineup, all of them good looking in a classy way, good attitude and aim to please. The facilities are nice, especially the rooms. Whereas at the Mezannine you have tiny cubicles with a tall bed barely wide enough to fuck on, at Akira the rooms are generous and the beds are big and clean and at ground level. The massage is better, too. They even have a sauna to relax in after your session, but if you want it to be warm, they have to turn it on when you arrive. With the sauna it's a little bit like FKK, only that the girls in Colombia are much nicer.

[QUOTE=Intltvlr;2148183]So it's a little after midnight and our driver from the Marriott takes us to Lidl.

...

When we arrived and the walked through the doors. Playboy mantion was the only thing that came to mind.

About 60 girls. 85% are 10's. The rest are 9's. And maybe there might have been 3 that I would consider 8. However my friends. At least 4 girls I would have to give them 11 or 12. That's how hot they were.

Drinks. 40,000 pesos for a corona that's their cheapest drink. Some bottles were upwards of 2 million pesos.

Anyway. I highly recommend that everyone hit this spot to have a drink just to say you have been there. Other than that. No thank you..[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report.

I've checked a few maps etc and have no idea what or where Lidl is. Unless you were in a budget supermarket?

[QUOTE=Arcangel;2149142]

Nenas Bogota in the hotel at calle 65 #14-37.

You go upstairs and at the reception you pay 10 k to be allowed in to see the girls (they promise to give back your 10 k if you come out within 5 mins). I was presented 8 fine looking girls and chose a tall thin Venezolana (24), beautiful like a Bollywood filmstar, with augmented breasts, and very friendly attitude. In Venezuela she was an accounting graduate and engineering student. , now she works in Bogota to feed her family. The session is 60 mins for 150 k. Open Mon.-sat 24 h.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I may check the place out. Sounds good. Was it this hotel Paraiso?

It should be a short time Love Motel.

I hope it is there? It looks like it is on another block, Calle 66a.

I updated the Map.

[QUOTE=KangarooTed;2149222]Thanks. I may check the place out. Sounds good. Was it this hotel Paraiso?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KangarooTed;2149215]have no idea what or where Lidl is.[/QUOTE]I think it is Lido.

[QUOTE=KangarooTed;2149215]Thanks for the report.

I've checked a few maps etc and have no idea what or where Lidl is. Unless you were in a budget supermarket?[/QUOTE]It might be Lidel.

I've spoken to many working girls that never heard of it either.

Budget? No my friend. That place is a budget killer. Cheapest drink which is a corona costs 40,000 pesos. Super high end place.

So I'm stuck here longer then I expected due to flying standby and flights are full. Also the storm hitting NJ will not help me get out. So I'm making the most of it.

Been spending most of mi time in Santa Fe (all my time) from Friday to last night, Monday I had 12 sessions. 1 was horrible, the only TLN that I did. 1 quickly was bad. The rest were all very good with 4 amazing ones. I will detail them on my full daily reports when I get back to the states. I've been trying to taking notes as I go so I don't forget.

So far been spending my time between paisa. Toya. Duresex (I think that's how you spell it) Venus and piscina.

Now. Almost all girls at every club will give you a nude lap dance at the table for 30,000, piscina is 120,000. Piscina is the only overpriced joint in the neighborhood. I don't understand why. However in my detailed reports I will contradict myself because my best night was there. But that will come later.

Venus. By far the nastiest place in the neighborhood it's dirty all around. It's only at Venus and piscina that you can smoke inside. So I like going there if not for anything else. I will not do sessions there again. It is home to the only bad quickly that I experienced. However they are the only ones that on the weekends they do sex shows with the customers that have the balls to go onstage and have sex in front of everyone. It's the Wild West over there. Kind of cool.

Troya. Lots of girls in and out all the time. It's a cool place. If you just sit around you will for sure see something you like. Prices are good there for alcohol. Medium bottle of red label for 80,000 is a bargain. Quickies are 60,000 like everywhere else.

Paisa. Normally they have the best girls. Their service sucks. If you're sitting by the stage and you guys are drinking beer and someone will buy a bottle. They will tell you that you need to move in a rude way. Not cool. However the quality of the girls is high.

Duresex. WOW! Probably the most under rated joint. Per square foot it's the best place in SF I don't think you can find an ugly girl in there I know we rate women from 1-10. But my friends I sessioned there last night with a fucking 12. Jennifer Lopez on her best day looks like a dog compared to this girl from Medellin. More details on my daily reports to follow. But it was a dance for 30,000 followed by a session for 60,000. Best money I ever spent. I almost took her back up 30 min later. LOL.

Eiffel. Empty all the time.

Texas. Shit hole.

Ibiza empty all the time.

There's a couple of spots I haven't gone in across from Texas but that's because I never saw any talent walking in or out. I made friends with a drug dealer who pretends to sell cigarettes there. He introduces me to everyone as his boss. LOL. So I know all the sleazy people and doormen already. When bums try to ask me for money I don't even have to say no anymore because they handle it for me. I buy them some beers I'm always outside smoking and I'm just a likable person. So they make sure I'm not bothered because they like having me around.

Some places escape my memory but I'll update again soon. More notes to take.

However the corner bar by Ibiza on both sides of the street has some girls hanging around that I would question their age. So be careful. There really is a great amount of police in the area. Which is good. I'm heading there now. It's 5 pm. See you guys soon.

[QUOTE=Routard;2148564]Thanks for your report. I Have no idea however where you entered, but it's not the Mansion. The Mansion is a swing club in Chapinero that cannot be described as tiny.[/QUOTE]Thank you for correcting the situation. I've heard so much about mansion and was pissed. LOL. So I'm glad there's a different mansion. This one was in the neighborhood of Las Vegas and Pereira by Avenida 1 de mayo.

[QUOTE=JetDork;2148468]How stupid would I be heading down to Sante Fe on my own?

Understanding it is not a truly safe place, is it so much of a war zone that an individual who is aware of his surroundings, doesn't get hammered in the clubs, etc, still should not take a taxi to a club? Or just not club hop?

Just curious to see the show.[/QUOTE]Brother any taxi will take you there. There's only like 3 blocks to play in you can club hop all you want. Don't be stupid or flashy. Some clubs you walk into in one block and they have an exit to the other block so you can even cut through them if you don't want to walk around the blocks. Most of the guys on the street work for the clubs trying to get you in the door. Nobody will do anything to you by the clubs unless you deserve it. That's my perspective anyway. They don't want bad publicity with that sort of thing. Although the other night I almost punched one of those guys that works for the clubs for grabbing my on my arm and trying to escort me into the club. But I'm a bit nuts. LOL. Needless to say they don't touch me anymore.

[QUOTE=Arcangel;2149142]Akira Spa, Cra 24 #52-68 (near mall Galerias), white door, ring bell 301,9 am-9 pm, sun -6 pm.

Massage+FS 60 mins 150 k, tel+whatsapp 3223712050[/QUOTE]Thank's for the info, I indeed didn't know this one.

I'm with you. I was there January 2017 and I walked around Santa Fe with no problems. I guess the craziest thing to happen was when a guy asked me for a sip of my Pepsi. I told him find a cup and I'd give you a swig. He did and I poured him a little. As far as the girls I went with street meat and it was sweet. Can't be beat on prices. The one regret I had was a girl I saw that was a stunner that I didn't bag. I still think about her from time to time because she was gorgeous and stacked. Oh well the three I did bang weren't exactly chopped liver and once again for the price it can't be beat. Have fun Intitvir I'll be in Cartagena in June and who knows maybe back in Bogota in October.

[QUOTE=Intltvlr;2148534]First. Thank you perrochino. My pleasure. But you need to wait on my very detailed report of day 2. Which just happened to be the greatest day of my LIFE and you're right. Sure has to do with Santa Fe.

Ok. So here we go.

Yesterday I was taken to zona Rosa. Regular rea to meet regular girls. Very nice spots to eat. I don't have time to make girlfriends. Neither do I want to. I'm here for P4P and if something else happens so be it. But I'm not wining and dinning anyone. But since you do need to eat. I recommend this area very much.

After that we w my to the neighborhood where mansion is at. I believe Avenida 1 de maio. (Not sure). Anyway.

Pereira was my first stop. Saturday night by the way. There's about 35 girls all around the 6 range. You might find a lost hot one. But don't count on it. Atmosphere was ok. Couple of locals dancing with the girls. Definitely a place you can waste a girl's time and she won't care. Not my scene. I left.

Mansion 2nd stop. I had good expectations. It's fucking tiny. They should rename it closet. I walked out as fast as I walked in..[/QUOTE]

Most taxi drivers will warn how dangerous SF is. Many street girls warned about mugging. I think street girls know better than any one else here. I was warned for roam streets multiple times by police. This mean go, finish the deed and get out.

[QUOTE=Intltvlr;2149494]Brother any taxi will take you there. There's only like 3 blocks to play in you can club hop all you want. Don't be stupid or flashy. Some clubs you walk into in one block and they have an exit to the other block so you can even cut through them if you don't want to walk around the blocks. Most of the guys on the street work for the clubs trying to get you in the door. Nobody will do anything to you by the clubs unless you deserve it. That's my perspective anyway. They don't want bad publicity with that sort of thing. Although the other night I almost punched one of those guys that works for the clubs for grabbing my on my arm and trying to escort me into the club. But I'm a bit nuts. LOL. Needless to say they don't touch me anymore.[/QUOTE]

What is the address for this place?

[b]Duresex Night Club[/b]
Calle ___, Carrera ___. __ Chicas. Prices: 60k Tel: ___. Hours: ____.

[QUOTE=Intltvlr;2149489]So I'm stuck here longer then I expected due to flying standby and flights are full. Also the storm hitting NJ will not help me get out. So I'm making the most of it.

Been spending most of mi time in Santa Fe (all my time) from Friday to last night, Monday I had 12 sessions. 1 was horrible, the only TLN that I did. 1 quickly was bad. The rest were all very good with 4 amazing ones. I will detail them on my full daily reports when I get back to the states. I've been trying to taking notes as I go so I don't forget.

So far been spending my time between paisa. Toya. Duresex (I think that's how you spell it) Venus and piscina.

Now. Almost all girls at every club will give you a nude lap dance at the table for 30,000, piscina is 120,000. Piscina is the only overpriced joint in the neighborhood. I don't understand why. However in my detailed reports I will contradict myself because my best night was there. But that will come later.

Venus. By far the nastiest place in the neighborhood it's dirty all around. It's only at Venus and piscina that you can smoke inside. So I like going there if not for anything else. I will not do sessions there again. It is home to the only bad quickly that I experienced. However they are the only ones that on the weekends they do sex shows with the customers that have the balls to go onstage and have sex in front of everyone. It's the Wild West over there. Kind of cool.

Troya. Lots of girls in and out all the time. It's a cool place. If you just sit around you will for sure see something you like. Prices are good there for alcohol. Medium bottle of red label for 80,000 is a bargain. Quickies are 60,000 like everywhere else.

Paisa. Normally they have the best girls. Their service sucks. If you're sitting by the stage and you guys are drinking beer and someone will buy a bottle. They will tell you that you need to move in a rude way. Not cool. However the quality of the girls is high.

Duresex. WOW! Probably the most under rated joint. Per square foot it's the best place in SF I don't think you can find an ugly girl in there I know we rate women from 1-10. But my friends I sessioned there last night with a fucking 12. Jennifer Lopez on her best day looks like a dog compared to this girl from Medellin. More details on my daily reports to follow. But it was a dance for 30,000 followed by a session for 60,000. Best money I ever spent. I almost took her back up 30 min later. LOL.

Eiffel. Empty all the time.

Texas. Shit hole.

Ibiza empty all the time.

There's a couple of spots I haven't gone in across from Texas but that's because I never saw any talent walking in or out. I made friends with a drug dealer who pretends to sell cigarettes there. He introduces me to everyone as his boss. LOL. So I know all the sleazy people and doormen already. When bums try to ask me for money I don't even have to say no anymore because they handle it for me. I buy them some beers I'm always outside smoking and I'm just a likable person. So they make sure I'm not bothered because they like having me around.

Some places escape my memory but I'll update again soon. More notes to take.

However the corner bar by Ibiza on both sides of the street has some girls hanging around that I would question their age. So be careful. There really is a great amount of police in the area. Which is good. I'm heading there now. It's 5 pm. See you guys soon.[/QUOTE]

Out barhopping with Henry2005 Wednesday Night- OMG! Just off the Hook. Wednesday is the best day for SantaFe-- Tons of hotties in the streets and more in the clubs. What makes Wednesday so great is that there are half the guys and most of the chicas are out and they are so fun when there are less guys-.

This guy Henry is a bit crazy in a funny way. He definitely appreciated SF. LOL. I had to tell him to lower his voice after he got a little buzzed. We hit most of the bars hot girls every where, all smiley.

At one point we were in Troyas and the ratio was 1-1 about 30+ chicas 6-9's+ Good pussy for cheep! I was watching these 4 guys partying with 4 girls getting simultaneous lap dances, it was beautiful!

Super cute 18 yo Venezuelan spinners on 23rd between 15th and 16th- $40-50 mil.

Quick Santa Fe tip- if catching a cab out go to 24th St that way the cab is headed out of SF.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2149321]It should be a short time Love Motel.

I hope it is there? It looks like it is on another block, Calle 66a.

I updated the Map.[/QUOTE]I checked on Google Streetview: The hotel where Nenas is on the 2nd floor is called Hotel Paraiso on calle 65. I don't know what's on 66 a.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2150088]Out barhopping with Henry2005 Wednesday Night- OMG! Just off the Hook. Wednesday is the best day for SantaFe-- Tons of hotties in the streets and more in the clubs. What makes Wednesday so great is that there are half the guys and most of the chicas are out and they are so fun when there are less guys-.

This guy Henry is a bit crazy in a funny way. He definitely appreciated SF. LOL. I had to tell him to lower his voice after he got a little buzzed. We hit most of the bars hot girls every where, all smiley.[/QUOTE]LOL. After all these years it is great to see people catching on to Santa Fe and enjoying themselves. Since my first time in Colombia in 2005, Santa Fe is the only place that I have ever mongered in Bogota. For me there has never been any reason to go elsewhere. Plus I stay in a fairly nice $24 hotel only a 10 minute walk from the place.

Arrived in town on Tuesday, is now Thursday night. I can vouch for all of Routard's excellent Bogota guide. Staying at Viaggio Virrey hotel he recommended in Zona T (higher end district, safe, nice, lotsa upscale shopping and clubs) Had a blast with Woodman, who tour guided me most excellently for a very reasonable donation. He is low stress, trustworthy, knowledgeable, and fun. Worked hard to make sure I saw it all and enjoyed myself, and made it home okay.

Bogota does require a baseline of knowledge and Spanish functionality to really pull off, which is why I'd recommend someone like Wood to help you get your bearings. Can be overwhelming otherwise.

Bogota / Colombia has blown my mind as to what is possible for this hobby, and how little can be spent for truly mind blowing beauty and experiences.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2150088]Out barhopping with Henry2005 Wednesday Night- OMG! Just off the Hook. Wednesday is the best day for SantaFe-- Tons of hotties in the streets and more in the clubs. What makes Wednesday so great is that there are half the guys and most of the chicas are out and they are so fun when there are less guys-.

This guy Henry is a bit crazy in a funny way. He definitely appreciated SF. LOL. I had to tell him to lower his voice after he got a little buzzed. We hit most of the bars hot girls every where, all smiley.

At one point we were in Troyas and the ratio was 1-1 about 30+ chicas 6-9's+ Good pussy for cheep! I was watching these 4 guys partying with 4 girls getting simultaneous lap dances, it was beautiful!

Super cute 18 yo Venezuelan spinners on 23rd between 15th and 16th- $40-50 mil.

Quick Santa Fe tip- if catching a cab out go to 24th St that way the cab is headed out of SF.[/QUOTE]Spot on with the Wednesday info. It can get a little crowded on weekend nights and a little dead on Sunday / Mondays. Wednesday is when the girls really come out to start making that moolah. I prefer walking around before the sun goes down though so you can really see the girls in the daylight. Versus in the clubs that are dark or at night.

So day 2 was a long and amazing day.

It's Friday, my wingman is hung over from the previous night.

I get my driver who I hired for all day for 150,000 to come with me to Santa Fe. Wow!! I felt like I was in Disney for adults. I had 1 viagra of 100 MG. Just for back up for the whole trip.

Stop by a bar for a drink and right next to the bar there's chicas on the street. I wasted no time.

Carla 38 yo 40,000 for quickie. Amazing body all tits and ass. Go upstairs, she was very friendly but does not kiss. Nice deep throat. I tried to finger her as she was sucking my dick and couldn't get my finger in her. I was like. WTF. I tell her to get on top of me and she applies a generous amount of lubricant which gets the job done to finally penetrate her. She is very friendly so I say to her. Your boobs are fake, how about your ass?? She says nothing else is fake but her boobs. She works out every day that's why she's so tight inside and out. Bend her over so she could twerk that amazing ass on my dick. And finished like that. Wonderful girl. Doesn't not look or act her age.

Back to drinking and walking around. Doesn't take long to find my next target. Don't remember many details except she was Colombian 24 yo 40,000 and a nice time. Back to drinking as I hit piscina which was empty at 5 when it opens but I meet a girl which I will end up referring to her as "my chica". Ended up chatting her up for a while but nothing happened I promised to come back later.

Ended up buying a version of cialis which made my face hot as hell. It only lasts 24 hours.

Went to eat something and more bar hopping around 9 my wingman is finally ready to come out so I sent the driver to get him while I waited at Venus. While I waited I took a girl upstairs for 60,000 horrible experience. Place is disgusting upstairs as it is downstairs as well. Th why arrive we go bar hop a bit and up at piscina. Where the night got crazy! Continued.

Don't be lazy read part 1 first. LOL.

So after some bar hopping we end up at piscina where the prices are elevated. My wing man loves it. I'm looking for my chica to see what ends up happening. The waiter approached us and we decided to get a bottle of Rum with some coke bottles. Which came with a free nude dance of the chica of our choice. My friend sees these 2 beautiful young girls by themselves and we ask the waiter to bring them to him. (I'm waiting on my chica) so they sit with him and a dancer starts her show (it's my chica wow) my friend can't determine which girl he wants the dance from. So I chose. Girl1 goes to change and proceeds with an amazing dance with her amazing 19 yo body. (Girl1) girl 2 stays and enjoys the show. My chica finished dancing and saw me. Came over and spent a the rest of the night sitting on my lap and dancing for me. I find out it costs 400 USD to pay barfine and take her home until her next shift the next day at 5 pm (Hell noo) chica 1 and 2 are still with us because my buddy keeps showering them with money. They keep dancing around us along with my chica. And I'm HORNY AS FUCK. So I tell my chica that I needed some air. The night was coming to a close and I wanted one more pop. So I go outside for a cigarette and find a slim Venezuelans for 35,000. Busted a nut quick and went back into piscina where my chica was already heading outside to look for me. As I walk in there's another bottle of Rum in the table and chica 2 is dancing naked. WTF my wing man has no limits. He's in love with both girls. As we come to the almost end of the night I give my chica 100,000 for being my play thing for all those hours. We kept making out like we were dating. My friend invites both girls back to the hotel to drink some Rum. They say they have never done that but my chica says he seems nice and they should go. My chica lives at piscina and she couldn't come because I won't pay barfine. So we proceed to the hotel. My friend was so drunk and kept asking who are these 2 girls. They are not the same girls. LOL. I said it's the same girls just they have on normal clothes. LOL. So I finally start talking to the girls since my chica was no longer around. And I find out they have been doing this for 3 days. They were webcam girls doing shows together because they are best friends. We get to the hotel after an embarrassing moment at the front desk of the Marriott while the girls showed their IDs and my friend was making a fool of himself. We go to my room for a drink. I put some music so the girls stay in the mood and I take all my friends money except 200 USD I told him that's all he can spend with the girls. He says they deserve more and I told him to grow up and shut the fuck up. After a while. I just wanted to go to sleep and I tell my drunk friend to take both girls to his room. Or take one or the other. I don't care. I just want the night to end already. He decides to take girl 2 to his room. I take 100 Usd out of his pocket since he wanted me to entertain girl 1 and I didn't want him giving that girl 200 USD. So I proceed to play with girl 1 and have no intention on paying her but she asked so I did.

Now this is when it gets crazy. I'm already spent and didn't want to jump right into sex so I tell her I'm going to be nice to her and proceed to go down on her. She cover her pussy and says nobody has ever done that before. I move her hand and proceed, eventually I try to put a finger in her and realize how damn tight she is. So I ask why and she says it's been a while since she's had sex. She's only been doing this 3 days and hadn't had any customers yet. (These girls get tested 1 time per month by the way. So both had just been tested.) I tell her to suck my dick after a while and she does a very good job. Then I tell her to get on top of me and she asks if I have condoms. I say no do you? She says the condoms are provided by the house to fuck in the house not for outside. So I say then it's without condom. As she mounted me she has a hard time fitting me inside of her. Her pussy was amazing. Fucked her in a couple of different positions and asked her where am I cumming? Are you on the pill? And she said no. And I wanted to go down on her again so I came in her mouth. Amazing girl.

While we talk about anal while I recover the phone rings. It's her friend in he lobby. My friend passed out they did nothing and he didn't pay her anything. So I said tell her to come up to my room. She arrives and I'm butt naked when I open the door and immediately tell her she's over dressed and to get naked. She does happily. Her friend tells her to let me be nice to her. LOL. She asks what does she mean. So I proceeded to go down on her. This girl is much more sexual and has orgasms like crazy. Then I tell her to suck my dick while I lay down and sit her friend on my face. Then she begins to ride me. Then they switch back and forth between fucking and sucking. I bend over girl number 2 and girl number 1 says I'm done I say no you're not. I need to cum in your mouth again. She says cum in her mouth this time. I said no, she said cum on my face then. I said ok. I came on her face and girl number 2 is still rubbing her pussy. And I said you want more and she says yes please because it's so amazing. So I put her into 69 position where she came again. My dick waved the white Flag and I was done. I couldn't go any more. LOL. And that was the most amazing threesome I ever had. And all thanks to my friend wanting both, paying for both and me getting both. LOL. What an amazing day!

[QUOTE=Jicks;2149775]Most taxi drivers will warn how dangerous SF is. Many street girls warned about mugging. I think street girls know better than any one else here. I was warned for roam streets multiple times by police. This mean go, finish the deed and get out.[/QUOTE]My friend got stabbed in Santa Fe. Lucky to be alive. Another guy know got scopamined there.

Its dodgy as fuck.

[QUOTE=HectorPF;2151276]Spot on with the Wednesday info. It can get a little crowded on weekend nights and a little dead on Sunday / Mondays. Wednesday is when the girls really come out to start making that moolah. I prefer walking around before the sun goes down though so you can really see the girls in the daylight. Versus in the clubs that are dark or at night.[/QUOTE]LOL!! Yes Love the Day time to check out the StreetieSweeties!! Thursdays are Great too-- ALso Attunes is a bit brighter so you really can see the girls.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2150406]LOL. After all these years it is great to see people catching on to Santa Fe and enjoying themselves. Since my first time in Colombia in 2005, Santa Fe is the only place that I have ever mongered in Bogota. For me there has never been any reason to go elsewhere. Plus I stay in a fairly nice $24 hotel only a 10 minute walk from the place.[/QUOTE]Yes, Santa Fe is the Best place overall for hookers in the Americas. And I've been to Brazil, Ecuador, Cuba and Tijuana. LOtsa Great AirBnBs near SF too! BTW you don't need AC in Bogota.

[QUOTE=GaryGroundwork;2151412]My friend got stabbed in Santa Fe. Lucky to be alive. Another guy know got scopamined there.

Its dodgy as fuck.[/QUOTE]I think if you don't act foolish and take normal precautions you will be fine, I see all types of men old and young walking through 98% Colombians. I've been to SF hundreds of time over the last 7 yrs-- I have never had any attempts, I do blend in pretty good though. The best is if you can be get a group together.

[QUOTE=Intltvlr;2151292]So day 2 was a long and amazing day.
...

I get my driver who I hired for all day for 150,000 to come with me to Santa Fe. Wow!! I felt like I was in Disney for adults. I had 1 viagra of 100 MG. Just for back up for the whole trip.[/QUOTE]LOL. 'Disney for Adults. ' Actually Disney for guys! Lotsa great rides.

Intitvir that is one of the greatest stories I've ever read. Congrats!

[QUOTE=Intltvlr;2151308]Don't be lazy read part 1 first. LOL.

So after some bar hopping we end up at piscina where the prices are elevated. My wing man loves it. I'm looking for my chica to see what ends up happening. The waiter approached us and we decided to get a bottle of Rum with some coke bottles. Which came with a free nude dance of the chica of our choice. My friend sees these 2 beautiful young girls by themselves and we ask the waiter to bring them to him. (I'm waiting on my chica) so they sit with him and a dancer starts her show (it's my chica wow) my friend can't determine which girl he wants the dance from. So I chose. Girl1 goes to change and proceeds with an amazing dance with her amazing 19 yo body. (Girl1) girl 2 stays and enjoys the show. My chica finished dancing and saw me. Came over and spent a the rest of the night sitting on my lap and dancing for me. I find out it costs 400 USD to pay barfine and take her home until her next shift the next day at 5 pm (Hell noo) chica 1 and 2 are still with us because my buddy keeps showering them with money. They keep dancing around us along with my chica. And I'm HORNY AS FUCK. So I tell my chica that I needed some air. The night was coming to a close and I wanted one more pop. So I go outside for a cigarette and find a slim Venezuelans for 35,000. Busted a nut quick and went back into piscina where my chica was already heading outside to look for me. As I walk in there's another bottle of Rum in the table and chica 2 is dancing naked. WTF my wing man has no limits. He's in love with both girls. As we come to the almost end of the night I give my chica 100,000 for being my play thing for all those hours. We kept making out like we were dating. My friend invites both girls back to the hotel to drink some Rum. They say they have never done that but my chica says he seems nice and they should go. My chica lives at piscina and she couldn't come because I won't pay barfine. So we proceed to the hotel. My friend was so drunk and kept asking who are these 2 girls. They are not the same girls. LOL. I said it's the same girls just they have on normal clothes. LOL. So I finally start talking to the girls since my chica was no longer around. And I find out they have been doing this for 3 days.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2149800]What is the address for this place?

[b]Duresex Night Club[/b]
Calle ___, Carrera ___. __ Chicas. Prices: 60k Tel: ___. Hours: ____.[/QUOTE]Never ever heard about a place named like this. And SF is just an area of 2 blocks that you can walk in 10 min, it's easy to identify each place.

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[QUOTE=Routard;2151951]Never ever heard about a place named like this. And SF is just an area of 2 blocks that you can walk in 10 min, it's easy to identify each place.[/QUOTE]Well it's on the map near Calle 23 and 16, but how it's positioned on there. Maybe it is just a placeholder not actually identifying the exact location?

Not sure if anyone can confirm this is the name of the place. Maybe the OP was confused again?

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2144352]Hey everybody,

I thought I'd bump the question as I have the same question, though broader. I am considering ending my Medellin-Bogota trip with overlap in Bogota during March 29-April 1. Will there be many / any casas or massage places open during this time? I've heard Medellin will be a bust. So, I thought I'd check on Bogota since its a bigger city. Another option I'm considering is Aruba during that time. Thanks![/QUOTE]I read Gonefishin's report from last year 'Semana Santa'.

Apart from the Thursday & Friday he noted Pussy House and Zhivo was packed with women. The way those dates align with March 29th-1st April, it seems like the last day of real action this year will be the 28th, the Wednesday.

For others that are there prior to those dates, the opportunity exists to get numbers for any girls staying around town.

Personally, I'm hoping the streets are paved with Venezuelan pussy during Semana, 'because they got nowhere else to go.

Trip report. March 9th-March 16th.

Overview: First time in Bog, decent Spanish, decent looking guy, early 40's, 10 year monger, rented a place in Chapinero Alto. Central to everything.

Spent the first few days with a chica friend. Got the lay of the land and was ready to launch once she departed.

Spa's.

Abudabi spa. Hit it up mid week.

180,000 for "completo".

Line up of about 8 chicas. Almost all wearing corsets. Not sure if that was a spa outfit or to cover up the baby fat. Chose Paola, very innocent looking. Sexy eye contact the entire time. Body rub, not massage. Naked the entire time. Amazing tits and decent body. She said she had only been there 3 months and by the way she serviced me, I believed it. Amateur sex hour LOL. Still got my pop when I got on top, had her head off the edge of the bed and watched her tits bouncing in the mirror.

Overall, room was clean, so was the bathroom. Massage table / bed was moderately comfortable. They offered supplies to shower after.

Mezzanine massage area.

About 5-6 businesses on the back side / second floor. They have cameras so they can see when a guy walks up the stairs and the girls are in the tiny rooms and pop their heads out. Checked out all the places and settled on the last one with Candy. The first room quoted me 350 k. Guess I looked like a silly gringo. 19 and super sexy. We had to wait for a room to open so we talked a lot. She kept sucking on a lollipop the entire time. Helluva tease. 120 K for completo.

The room was super small and noisy. You could easily hear the chica in the next room getting pounded. That was kinda cool. Haha.

Great sex with Candy. 3 positions. Great DFK and GFE! She was open to overnight but I'll save that for the next trip. She told me she takes the milenio bus 2 hours each day when she comes to the spa. Craziness!

Santa Fe notes.

California club 4 pm Wed. Quiet. Average looking girls. 15 mil for a corona. Nothing too exciting.

Troya, much better vibe and selection. Chicks don't approach at all (wasnt expecting that). 8. 5 K for the cheap Anguila beer.

Punto de oro-Dead.

Sketchy people in Londres bar. Great corner bar to watch the street scene. I was hoping they had wifi but it wasnt working. I did notice one creepy guy come up to the bartender and hand over a cell phone. Bartender looked it over, front and back and put it away. Almost as if the guy turning it in had just stolen it somewhere. Was odd to watch that. Just be careful with your stuff.

Carrera 16 a scene. Way too many bar workers. Like horse flies! I ignored all of them.

Headed to Piscina Club and had the manager give me a full tour. 450 K / hour for the top of the line room (room had a sauna, a sex bench, and a jacuzzi). Light on girls but the ones there were good looking and fun. No dudes at 5 pm. I guess I showed up right when they opened. I wanted to go back here but I never did.

Back at Santa Fe on Friday around 2 pm. Dead. Nothing really gets going until 4 or 5 pm.

Definitely some questionable young girls out on the street!

Oh and the street sweeties are awesome. Not much smile on any of their faces but if you see one you like, jump on it, don't wait. If you circle the block, theirs a good chance she will be gone.

Started at Troya, quiet. Minimal talent at this time.

Stumbled into Atunes-Cool and chill spot! 3 separate parts. Most kinda hang out in the middle. Kinda liked it. A lot of standing around. Almost feels like a cafeteria. Good looking girls. Nobody dancing. Only one dude asking people to order drinks from him but you can and I did easily go to the bar. 6 K for a Heineken. Not bad.

From a Venezuelan stunner I chatted with. "What do you think of the Colombian men? Her response "They are all ugly". Haha.

Texas club. Crap hole / rough looking girls. But it had WiFi. Just had to stay near the DJ booth for it to work.

Def recommend Atunes and Piscina for midweek / mid day fun.

Chapinero Area.

Hit up Pussy house after a Tinder girl workout session. Got there at 1 am. Way better than Santa Fe. Relaxed staff (minimal horse flies LOL). Chicas were all about giving me their numbers for an all nighter in front of the staff. Chicks are a little flighty after 1 am though.

Hit up Pussy house a second time on Friday night. Packed house. Much pushier staff. Hung out with a chica on the second floor. Definitely the place to be.

Tinder.

Met two from there but had plenty of other offers. Some ridiculously priced. Some of the younger girls on the app flirted about coming over to "hang out" but making that happen was like herding cats. Ha!

Chica 1 I met. We agreed on 140 K for 2 hours. But I was up for dinner first (why not, everything is so damn cheap). We ended up drinking a ton. And more back at the apartment. She was a blast (3 pops, two of them BB) and must have hung out for about 4 hours. Great time. Ended up seeing her later on in the week for 2 more hours.

Chica 2. Didn't really look like her pictures but still doable. We met for dinner. No talk about money or sex but I knew her deal. She said she wanted to massage me. Of course I offered to pay for that and she was ok with it. She was back at my place naked and getting pounded out pretty fast. Great ass on her. Gave her 140 K for the one pop.

Highlight of the trip was a normal chica from Tinder that I actually chatted with last year in Ecuador. She just happened to be in Bog. We had two nice dates. Super stunning. Amazing experience with her and gratis.

[QUOTE=Tacoma101;2154673]Headed to Piscina Club and had the manager give me a full tour. 450 K / hour for the top of the line room (room had a sauna, a sex bench, and a jacuzzi).[/QUOTE]That is a lot of damn pesos. Last time I was there with my brother and my dad, I negotiated a price of like 150K with the girls. We had regular rooms though. Troya and the street chicks are my go to, but I wanted to check out La Piscina since there was a favorable exchange rate. No way I was going there when it was 1600 to 1USD. Back then a session equalled out to $100. I have never seen any dudes in there. It is always totally empty, besides the girls and loud music.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2154686]That is a lot of damn pesos..[/QUOTE]Agreed, especially for a Sauna. What a waste of time.

'The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing' - er, rather than thinking a sauna is a good idea at 450 K an hour.

Hi All,

First trip to Bogota booked for first week of April. I have basic tourist Spanish and will have to rely on google translate for the rest. I've done the DR a few times, a little bit in Mexico and Lima and various countries in Europe. I'll be there for 5 days. I've gone back 50 pages in the forum and have a fair idea of what's going on there, but I do have a few questions.

Massive thanks to all those who have contributed guides, maps and trip reports etc. Routard's FAQ's must be one of the best posts I've ever seen on here. World Travel 69's chica list and maps are just wow! And there are some quality trip reports, so thank you all.

[QUOTE=WindAngel;2143361]The girls usually are standing in front of the short time hotels in Santa Fe. You just take a walk in the area, and talk to the girl you like. They will take you inside the hotel. Other girls around the area not in front of the hotel, the process is the same. The bars usually have rooms on site, so you just get the service inside, mostly upstairs.[/QUOTE]When having a session with a girl at a strip club or off the street, do you play separately for the girl and the room or is the room included in the quoted prices?

Routard mentioned that Bogota is the home of GFE. In many places the session is over when you pop. Is that the case in Bogota or if a girl quotes an hour she'll stay for an hour regardless?

I'm going to buy a cheap cell phone especially for this trip, both to keep my mongering life separate and in case it gets stolen. Is there reasonable 4 G coverage there or should I just get a cheaper 3 G phone?

For this, my first trip, I like the sound of Chapinero. I'm happy to sleep at night and play during the day, so having cheap daytime brothels on my doorstep sounds tempting. Also, I'm a middle of the road sort of guy. Don't want to stay north and pay silly money but don't want to stay too far south and be nervous every time I leave the hotel. I will definitely check out Santa Fe during the day though, sounds like a must. I know the odds of being mugged are slim, but no point taking unnecessary risks, especially as I'll be flying solo.

I've messaged a few prepagos and they all listed CBJ. When I asked about BBBJ they quoted an additional 50. Am I better just not bringing it up and assuming most of them will anyway do it if I'm clean etc. Or will the upsell in the room be higher than what they quote over text?

People make reference to bars, strip clubs and night clubs. I assume the following.

Bars = A bar area with girls milling around and rooms upstairs if you want a session with any of them.

Strip Club = As above but with the option of paying the girls for a striptease.

Nightclub = Traditional night club with rooms on site for sessions.

Am I correct? In all cases, I assume you could tip a girl to sit and canoodle with you? I. e. I have more options than sit alone or pay for a session. The purpose of my trip is exclusively mongering, so I'd like to hang around the clubs as much as possible but obviously have my limits on how many times I can session per day.

I'm planning to be teetotal this trip. Will I have a problem spending time at clubs if I'm ordering water only, no alcohol, but am paying for dances, tipping girls who sit with me and going for the occasional session?

[QUOTE=Routard;2092596]"barra why tanga" (strip club without sex) or a whiskeria (brothel).[/QUOTE]Are there barra why tangas around Chapinero? I want to spend time in a strip club but can't see myself making it as far south as Primer de Mayo. (I've been mocked before for wanting to pay for a striptease when I can pay the same money to fuck but I like the tease, especially where there is no pressure to take the girl for a session, so she has no agenda other than another dance).

I love playing in jacuzzis. I've seen them listed in a couple of love motels. Routard pointed out that love motels don't check ID's so I shouldn't be taking a girl off the street or the web to a love motel. Sounds like my only option is taking a girl whose number I have gotten when meeting her in a club. Any other options?

In the DR, hotel reception will hold the girl's ID until I come down with her, so they know she hasn't left me up there drugged or dead. Is it the same in Bogota or do they simply check ID's? Is an ID commonly called a cedula here too or is that a Dominican term?

Okay, I've asked a lot of questions, I like to know what I'm doing before I go. Feel free to answer any, not necessarily all. Thank you very much in advance for any useful information. If you look at my profile, you'll see I've written extensive trip reports, so I'm not a mooch, I will give back.

If anyone is around during first week of April, would love to meet up, drinks on me, or even go mongering together. Feel free to PM me with details of any girls you'd like me to keep happy till you're back in town.

P. S. What is a paisa girl? I know pais means country. Does it mean country girl? If so, what is the significance of a Colombian country girl?

[QUOTE=PuntingGeorge;2155183]When having a session with a girl at a strip club or off the street, do you play separately for the girl and the room or is the room included in the quoted prices?[/QUOTE]I don't really know. I always ask, "y la habitacaion?" when I talk to chicks about prices. I think sometimes it is included and sometimes it isn't. Because the girl could give you the price with or without the room so you will not know unless you ask. I always negotiate anyway. The girl is still on the hook to pay the room part. That can not be negotiated. I usually pay 30K at the Santa Fe casas which I think is 10K for the room and 20K for the girl. At Troya strip club I pay 60K which 10K of that goes toward the room.

[QUOTE=PuntingGeorge;2155183]Bars = A bar area with girls milling around and rooms upstairs if you want a session with any of them.

Strip Club = As above but with the option of paying the girls for a striptease.

Nightclub = Traditional night club with rooms on site for sessions.[/QUOTE]Spot on for bar. Not a ton of chicks. Just 2 or maybe 3. You don't pay for stripping in Latin America; you pay for fucking. Nightclub = ripoff. Chicks wearing lingerie or skimpy dresses in a fancy bar about to charge you for 1 drink what it would cost to fuck in another place.

[QUOTE=PuntingGeorge;2155183]
P. S. What is a paisa girl? I know pais means country. Does it mean country girl? If so, what is the significance of a Colombian country girl?[/QUOTE]You will generally hear paisa referring to a chick from Medellin. Medellin is located in the department (state, province) of Antioquia. According to wiki: A Paisa is someone from a region in the northwest of Colombia, including the part of the Andes in Colombia. The Paisa region is formed by the departments of Antioquia, Caldas, Risaralda and Quindo. Some regions of Valle del Cauca Department (north) and Tolima Department (west) culturally identify as paisas.

Costena is a chick from the coast.

Calena is a chick from Cali.

Great information.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2155214]Nightclub = ripoff.[/QUOTE]LOL.

[QUOTE=PuntingGeorge;2155183]When having a session with a girl at a strip club or off the street, do you play separately for the girl and the room or is the room included in the quoted prices?[/QUOTE]My experience is that the price is included about 80% of the time. It is only for about 20 or 30 minutes. You will get a knock on the door before you reach the allowed time.

You can go to Santa Fe at night. If you are worry about safety, just have the taxi to drop you off at the block where Troya and all other clubs are, and don't wonder out too far from it. When you leave, take the taxi to go back to your hotel.

I think you will need to pay for dance but it is very cheap.

I have just visited Medellin and had a great time. I am just curious to know if there are a lot of Asian tourists and if so which areas do they commonly hang out.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2155417]I have just visited Medellin and had a great time. I am just curious to know if there are a lot of Asian tourists and if so which areas do they commonly hang out.[/QUOTE]First time visitor on May 10-May 19. I am also an Asian male, Asian-American. Anyone out there want to meet up and help a new guy navigate the area? First night bar tab is on me!

[QUOTE=Tacoma101;2154673]Trip report. March 9th-March 16th.

Overview: First time in Bog, decent Spanish, decent looking guy, early 40's, 10 year monger, rented a place in Chapinero Alto. Central to everything.

Spent the first few days with a chica friend. Got the lay of the land and was ready to launch once she departed.

Spa's.

Abudabi spa. Hit it up mid week.

180,000 for "completo".

Line up of about 8 chicas. Almost all wearing corsets. Not sure if that was a spa outfit or to cover up the baby fat. Chose Paola, very innocent looking. Sexy eye contact the entire time. Body rub, not massage. Naked the entire time. Amazing tits and decent body. She said she had only been there 3 months and by the way she serviced me, I believed it. Amateur sex hour LOL. Still got my pop when I got on top, had her head off the edge of the bed and watched her tits bouncing in the mirror..[/QUOTE]Nothing in La Pisina is worth 450 k pesos an hour. The take out is 200 k and most if not all are Venezuelans.

Is any member going to be around the week of March 24- March 31? I will be flying there this Saturday and will like someone to show me around if possible.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2155417]I have just visited Medellin and had a great time. I am just curious to know if there are a lot of Asian tourists and if so which areas do they commonly hang out.[/QUOTE]Hi, there are few Asian expats and very few Asian tourists. You might find Asian expats in some of the Karaoke in Northern Bogota. Juan Pablo Zhivago is a quiet brothel with Karaoke where you might always find some Asian expats.

First time visitor in Bogota this coming week (March 24-31). Will there be any members available that can show me the Bogota scene? Of course, you will be compensated for your time.

I am wondering if there are reg clubs similar to Gustos of Medellin. Where it's a lot of working girls and no take out fee and just drinks and negotiation with the girl. Any help would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=TravelerBoss;2156463]First time visitor in Bogota this coming week (March 24-31). Will there be any members available that can show me the Bogota scene? Of course, you will be compensated for your time.[/QUOTE]I don't arrive until April 5 but Check with Woodman.

No matter how hard I try I just can't get away. And I tried. I really tried. I promised myself today that I would try to check out new places like that Playboy Club or Mansion or whatever it is called. But I left my hotel downtown at 11pm and took the 10 minute walk to Santa Fe and that was all she wrote. There was so much pussy around that place it was ridiculous. I asked one chick how much and she said 20. I said and the room? She said 5. So 25 in all. Let's do it then! She had me pay the motel person 7 and she gave her a condom. I said but I already have condoms. Fuck it. It was only 2000. The usual BBBJ and all the positions. About 30 minutes later, busted one, paid the 20 and left.

I went walking around and oh me, oh my. I guess La Piscina is closed on Sundays. There were plenty of people on the streets hanging out. I stepped in to Atunes. Nahhh. Troya is my spot. So left out of there and kept walking. This superstar with regular clothes and a backpack approached me and asked where I was going. I said just looking around. She said how about a session. I said how much. She said 100 for all night. It was like I was in a movie and a bomb exploded blowing me backwards. I told her that she must be a model or a movie star. She started laughing and said no but thanks. I told her that I didn't have my phone on me or I would definitely take her number. She said she was from Medellin. I am telling you. If I was not getting up at 5am to go then I would have given her 100 just to sleep next to me.

There were plenty more where she came from. Chicks that looked straight out of Medellin's Fase 2 were just roaming the street in regular clothes. There was a lot of jailbait out too that I had not noticed before. I decided to call it a night so I went into the restaurant and got me a to go order of bbq wings and headed back to the hotel. I left at 11pm with 200K and got back in at 1am with 158K. Maybe one day I will get to visit some other spots but for now Santa Fe is all I need.

P.S. PuntingGeorge, I don't know if you will be able to handle Santa Fe. It is sure to overwhelm you!

Something that I have never seen in all these years. Business have sat the trash out for pickup, but all over the place the bums have opened the bags and strewn trash all over the sidewalks looking for food. That is a damn shame. I would hate to be a garbage man here.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2158529]P.S. PuntingGeorge, I don't know if you will be able to handle Santa Fe. It is sure to overwhelm you![/QUOTE]Sounds like a perfect evening, thanks for sharing.

I'd like to find my Bogota legs in a laid back setting, so I've booked a place in Chapinero and plan to become well acquainted with the day brothels, but plan to do lots of exploring, with a focus on Santa Fe (sounds like Sosua on speed). Based on how comfortable I feel walking around alone or if I go back with a wingman, I'll decide if I want to stay closer next time. Will keep you updated.

[QUOTE=WindAngel;2155406]My experience is that the price is included about 80% of the time. It is only for about 20 or 30 minutes. You will get a knock on the door before you reach the allowed time.

You can go to Santa Fe at night. If you are worry about safety, just have the taxi to drop you off at the block where Troya and all other clubs are, and don't wonder out too far from it. When you leave, take the taxi to go back to your hotel.

I think you will need to pay for dance but it is very cheap.[/QUOTE]Sounds like good advice. Appreciate it.

[QUOTE=PuntingGeorge;2158568]Santa Fe (sounds like Sosua on speed).[/QUOTE]It is nothing like Sosua because the girls don't try to rip you off. If anything they will help you. I remember my first time there it was in the daytime and I was wearing some diamond earrings. I passed by a casa and some girls told me to take them off so that nobody would try to rob me. In Sosua the girls would have probably called somebody to rob me. LOL.

So here's a little report. I been following Routard's guide and it has been spot on. I decided to go with one of his recommendations for accommodations and couldn't be happier. I was even able to get a good secure driver that has experience as a body guard. He goes onto the Zona de tolerancia with me and wait for me at the club to make sure that I'm being treated good and fairly, it's nice to know that someone is watching your back, hit me on PMs if you are interested in his services. Anyways Last night I ended up going to Troya and got me a girl from Medellin. She goes by the name of Zamara. Probably one of the best looking girls in the club IMO. She's very shy and not very exciting in the room but she would comply with everything you tell her and with time she gets to warm up to you, I just feel that 20 min it's not enough. Price was 60 k for 20 min. They will knock on your door around the 10 min mark and before you go into the room. The girl cleaning it would ask for a tip. Usually 5 k. Anyways I ended up coming for a second time that night because it was Sunday (yesterday) and most clubs were closed. This time she called her sister Paloma (big girl in a good way) be she's def a hustler. This time Paloma negotiated the price w my friend to 80 k, she wanted 100 k at first, in front of Zamara. So I also ended up paying 80 k for the second session. And this point I was drunk and didn't really care to negotiate for 20 k, which I probably could have.

[QUOTE=PuntingGeorge;2158568]Sounds like a perfect evening, thanks for sharing.

I'd like to find my Bogota legs in a laid back setting, so I've booked a place in Chapinero and plan to become well acquainted with the day brothels, but plan to do lots of exploring, with a focus on Santa Fe (sounds like Sosua on speed). Based on how comfortable I feel walking around alone or if I go back with a wingman, I'll decide if I want to stay closer next time. Will keep you updated.[/QUOTE]PG, Have you ever been to Villa Mimosa in Rio? If so, Santa Fe is very similar except cooler weather. LOL.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2159439]PG, Have you ever been to Villa Mimosa in Rio? If so, Santa Fe is very similar except cooler weather. LOL.[/QUOTE]Nope, haven't done Brazil. I saw the weather, not excited, especially considering they don't seem to have heating.

So I am on the flight to Bogata again. I posted about my last trip and it was so long, it logged me out and I lost it. I usually order in off photoprepagos. 2 chicks at a time, and chicas back to back. I lined up some talent for tonight. I have 50 saved as favorites plus I like to send them away. I usually do have a camera or two anyway. This time, may get out to hit a few clubs. I don't speak Spanish but working on it.

Right now I am looking to leave on Sunday, but may stay until next Sunday. We will see! I'll try to remember to check this if anyone wants to meet up. All recommendations. Of places and Chicas welcomed. I usually stay near Parque 93, this time Carrera 7 and. 67-39.

Really late report. Overall, I really, really like Colombia. I prefer Bogota over Medellin and Cartagena.

Minor Annoyances I experienced:

1) I took the public taxi twice from the airport. Both times they tried to scam me for a few mil pesos. Once when I asked how much, he pointed to the meter (Did he expect me to pay 212 mil pesos? Note: the meter is just a number that you use to translate your fare. I'm still not sure how your calculate the fare when you roll over the fare table). Then he pointed to the per hour waiting charge. He tried to use that larger number as the airport surcharge.

2) Tried Uber one time at the airport. Uber sucks in Colombia. Not because of the rip-offs (they really can't rip you off; if they do, you just get a refund). It's because they're incompetent. They get lost due to all the one way streets. Uber drivers in Medellin and Cartegena were better. I guess it's because it's smaller with less one way streets.

3) YMMV with the girls. Of course, this happens everywhere in the world. Some of the girls at the cases were such poor performers. One girl asked for 20 or 30 mil more for her to do more than 5 minutes of CBJ. One reason might be that I chose the cutest girl in the lineup. But some of the girls at Chicas Milenio and the one across the street are surprising cute sometimes.

4) Very hard to get girls to perform BBBJ for the standard fee. Actually for me, it was impossible without offering a tip in the cases. Couple of the girls at the Pussy House strip joint asked for a tip for BBBJ. Couple of the girls from the strip joint across the street from the Pussy House asked for a tip for BBBJ and a lesbian show. I went to Santa Fe once to partake (only once, just to check it out. I prefer the cases). I asked about 5 of the cuter girls on the street for BBBJ. They all said no. In the casas, the girls said no, but some offer to do it for 50 K tip. Hence, 30 K or 40 K for the girl, and a 120% or 140% tip / bribe for BBBJ (which included CIM). Note that I didn't pick up high end girls. From reading the reports, it seems BBBJ is standard (after you pay 300 to 500 K pesos?

5) Out of the 5 cases I went to, Chicas Milenio was the only one that didn't have the prices posted on the wall. The girls at Chicas Milenio are allowed to charge the customer extra. The normal price was 30 K for 20 minutes and 40 K for 30 minutes. Many at the beginning, charged me an extra 10 K. Didn't fight the charges since it is so cheap anyway. Plus, IMO, the overall lineup at Chicas Milenio (out of the 5) was the best.

6) Once I went to Chicas Milenio at 9 PM on a Saturday night. Empty. Only 3 girls in the lineup. It seems the best time to go there is around 5 PM during the weekdays. You will have the day shift girls still there, and girls from the night shift start to come in.

7) I love the stripjoints. But some of the waiters will try to rip you off for their tip (just like Tijuana). Some of the younger waiters at Pussy House will try to keep 2 K for their tip, even though the prices are posted right on the table. At Troya, club Colombia cost 6 K (Poker cost 5 K). Once I ordered a club Colombia, and the waiter attempted to keep 4 K. That was the most anyone tried. After I confirmed the price with the bartender, I got the money back. He then had the nerve to ask for a tip. I just laughed. Not all strip joint waiters were bad. I normally tip 1 or 2 K to the waiters if they don't try to rip me off. Then they really appreciate the tip and will give you fantastic service.

8) I forgot one of my travel rules: Always have exact change. Once at Santa Fe, I picked up a girl for 30 K. Then the lady at the booth charged a few mil pesos for either the room or the condom. I gave her 40 K. The girl picked up the change and didn't give it back to me. I didn't make a scene. I thought that would be her tip. I should have gotten the change back because her service was poor.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2160185]Really late report. Overall, I really, really like Colombia. I prefer Bogota over Medellin and Cartagena.

Minor Annoyances I experienced:

1) I took the public taxi twice from the airport. Both times they tried to scam me for a few mil pesos. Once when I asked how much, he pointed to the meter (Did he expect me to pay 212 mil pesos? Note: the meter is just a number that you use to translate your fare. I'm still not sure how your calculate the fare when you roll over the fare table). Then he pointed to the per hour waiting charge. He tried to use that larger number as the airport surcharge.

2) Tried Uber one time at the airport. Uber sucks in Colombia. Not because of the rip-offs (they really can't rip you off; if they do, you just get a refund). It's because they're incompetent. They get lost due to all the one way streets. Uber drivers in Medellin and Cartegena were better. I guess it's because it's smaller with less one way streets.

3) YMMV with the girls. Of course, this happens everywhere in the world. Some of the girls at the cases were such poor performers. One girl asked for 20 or 30 mil more for her to do more than 5 minutes of CBJ. One reason might be that I chose the cutest girl in the lineup. But some of the girls at Chicas Milenio and the one across the street are surprising cute sometimes.

4) Very hard to get girls to perform BBBJ for the standard fee. Actually for me, it was impossible without offering a tip in the cases. Couple of the girls at the Pussy House strip joint asked for a tip for BBBJ. Couple of the girls from the strip joint across the street from the Pussy House asked for a tip for BBBJ and a lesbian show. I went to Santa Fe once to partake (only once, just to check it out. I prefer the cases). I asked about 5 of the cuter girls on the street for BBBJ. They all said no. In the casas, the girls said no, but some offer to do it for 50 K tip. Hence, 30 K or 40 K for the girl, and a 120% or 140% tip / bribe for BBBJ (which included CIM). Note that I didn't pick up high end girls. From reading the reports, it seems BBBJ is standard (after you pay 300 to 500 K pesos?

5) Out of the 5 cases I went to, Chicas Milenio was the only one that didn't have the prices posted on the wall. The girls at Chicas Milenio are allowed to charge the customer extra. The normal price was 30 K for 20 minutes and 40 K for 30 minutes. Many at the beginning, charged me an extra 10 K. Didn't fight the charges since it is so cheap anyway. Plus, IMO, the overall lineup at Chicas Milenio (out of the 5) was the best.

6) Once I went to Chicas Milenio at 9 PM on a Saturday night. Empty. Only 3 girls in the lineup. It seems the best time to go there is around 5 PM during the weekdays. You will have the day shift girls still there, and girls from the night shift start to come in.

7) I love the stripjoints. But some of the waiters will try to rip you off for their tip (just like Tijuana). Some of the younger waiters at Pussy House will try to keep 2 K for their tip, even though the prices are posted right on the table. At Troya, club Colombia cost 6 K (Poker cost 5 K). Once I ordered a club Colombia, and the waiter attempted to keep 4 K. That was the most anyone tried. After I confirmed the price with the bartender, I got the money back. He then had the nerve to ask for a tip. I just laughed. Not all strip joint waiters were bad. I normally tip 1 or 2 K to the waiters if they don't try to rip me off. Then they really appreciate the tip and will give you fantastic service.

8) I forgot one of my travel rules: Always have exact change. Once at Santa Fe, I picked up a girl for 30 K. Then the lady at the booth charged a few mil pesos for either the room or the condom. I gave her 40 K. The girl picked up the change and didn't give it back to me. I didn't make a scene. I thought that would be her tip. I should have gotten the change back because her service was poor.[/QUOTE]I usually have great Uber drivers. I only uber, never taxi. I have had success on photoprepagos. Until last night. But it was like 3 am. Young 18 year old shows up. She wanted to inspect my the ick before BBBJ, then said she didn't want to because she doesn't like to, even though my messages thru whatsapp specified that, but could tell I was talking to the agency, not her. I have a regular I see. 250 k for BBBJ, anal. She wants to go out and hang out now. She is pretty and enthusiastic.

I have not done the club's. Too much of an introvert. Never really been into the night scene.

Could someone please tell me how they calculate a taxi fare after the number goes higher than the last number on the chart? I got ripped off the last time and I will be going to Bogota again and have to go to the Holiday Inn in Chapinero near 68th st. And Carrera 7. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Colbert1;2160807]Could someone please tell me how they calculate a taxi fare after the number goes higher than the last number on the chart? I got ripped off the last time and I will be going to Bogota again and have to go to the Holiday Inn in Chapinero near 68th st. And Carrera 7. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Call Uber. Whatever it is, the airport fare is lilke 4 K more than the meter fare. Last week I paid a taxi 30 K to go downtown. I was like what the fuck. Going back to the airport I paid Uber 22K (also from the airport to downtown 2 days later). When we got back to the airport from Armenia my girlfriend insisted she walk outside the airport to get a taxi home. She ended up paying 16K. She said it would have been 35K had she taken one from in front of the airport.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2160871]Call Uber. Whatever it is, the airport fare is lilke 4 K more than the meter fare. Last week I paid a taxi 30 K to go downtown. I was like what the fuck. Going back to the airport I paid Uber 22K (also from the airport to downtown 2 days later). When we got back to the airport from Armenia my girlfriend insisted she walk outside the airport to get a taxi home. She ended up paying 16K. She said it would have been 35K had she taken one from in front of the airport.[/QUOTE]During normal business hours, you can get a Claro sim card at the Claro store on the departure level. You need a local number to use Uber. Never checked if they give you the local sim at the normal prices. I always got my sim card at the Claro store next to my Airbnb apartment in El Retiro. You also will have to spend additional time waiting for Uber. The one time I used Uber at the airport, the driver made me walk to the side street with my luggage. Irritating. But I still will use Uber. I feel more comfortable than using the taxi.

Your girlfriend must have negotiated a fare without the meter, since the airport surcharge is only 4.4 K.

[QUOTE=Bolongo;2160574]I usually have great Uber drivers. I only uber, never taxi.[/QUOTE]I didn't have much trouble with Uber in the Zona T area, but Uber drivers had trouble dropping off and picking up from the Candelaria area. All the one way streets makes it confusing. Sometimes the Uber map is wrong regarding the one way streets. Also, the Uber directions will lag real time, so if the driver relies on it, he will miss the turns.

[QUOTE=Colbert1;2160807]Could someone please tell me how they calculate a taxi fare after the number goes higher than the last number on the chart? I got ripped off the last time and I will be going to Bogota again and have to go to the Holiday Inn in Chapinero near 68th st. And Carrera 7. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Good taxi info on this site: [URL]http://www.howtobogota.com/2013/12/28/colombia-taxis/[/URL] I guess there are apps to calculate the fare.

After looking at the taxi fare table again (picture attached), it seems the fare goes up 100 pesos every meter unit. Actually, every 6th unit, the prices doesn't go up. So an easy approximation would be 100 pesos for each unit above the last number. With this approximation, you are giving the driver a few hundred pesos extra, which I don't mind if they don't try to rip me off. I actually tip them if they help me with my luggage and don't try to rip me off.

Hence with my fare of 307 from the airport to El Retiro, I guess I should have paid: 16,600 + (307 - 203) x 100 pesos + 4,400 (airport surcharge) = 31,400. I'm guessing the exact number is a few hundred pesos less.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2160961]You need a local number to use Uber. You also will have to spend additional time waiting for Uber.[/QUOTE]Not true. I have not had a local number for years and have no problem using Uber. I had to wait 5 minutes last time for Uber at the airport. You can always order before you get outside because it gives you the option of which door to be picked up at. So 5 minutes saved me almost 10 K.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2158603]It is nothing like Sosua because the girls don't try to rip you off. If anything they will help you.[/QUOTE]That's why I probably will never go back to the Dominican Republic. I went there once. Probably won't return, since Colombia, overall, is so much better than the DR.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2160969]Not true. I have not had a local number for years and have no problem using Uber.[/QUOTE]OK. I guess after your sim card number expires, you can use the wi-fi to call Uber. But don't you need a local number to initially set up Uber?

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2160980]OK. I guess after your sim card number expires, you can use the wi-fi to call Uber. But don't you need a local number to initially set up Uber?[/QUOTE]I initially set up my Uber account in the USA. With my cell phone compnay T-Mobile I get free internet in almost every country in the world. But yes you can do it on wifi as well. That is how I usually do it when I am leaving a hotel going somewhere.

[QUOTE=Colbert1;2160807]Could someone please tell me how they calculate a taxi fare after the number goes higher than the last number on the chart? I got ripped off the last time and I will be going to Bogota again and have to go to the Holiday Inn in Chapinero near 68th st. And Carrera 7. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Walk out of the airport and get on one of the SITP buses. That will take you, for free to the El Dorado Transmilenio station. From there use the TAPPSI app on your phone to request a taxi. You'll get a better rate.

Arrived from medellin check in at my hotel take a shower book uber and went santa fe around 15.00 pm uber drop me between calle 23 and carrera 16. First place visited was punto de oro is was open but few girls inside so I left. I decided walk around so start from carrera 16 see some girls standing outside near short time motels but they was not my type so I comeback to club (calle 23#16-02) opposite punto de oro. Its club without name on the Bogota map but the name of the club is paso Texas I find out it when I go inside. Sit order aquila light for 6000 mil and was looking some girls is dancing. One girl was quiet naughty was dancing naked and pour beer or her tits. Later other girl star dancing and take her clothes of she has a piercing in her pussy so its looks sexy for me and she was not so bad looking compare with other 6-8 girls inside so I decided to take her. I pay 40 mil for 20 minutes. The girl escort me to the room next to the bar on ground floor. The room was so small like a prison cell I start to take of my clothes already and other girl come and said go other room it was little bit bigger. I.

F. uck the girl for 20 minutes but could cum. Next place I went it was atons club it was open but just few girls inside so I left. Next I try to go fiebre sex strip club but security guy told me is not open yet. So my next stop was at club la cosona have maybe 20 girls inside but just 2-3 I like I order aquila light for 8000 mil I ask waiter how much is girls for 30 minutes he told me every girls is asking diffrent he ask me which girl I like I told him I like the petite girl who is dancing now with taattos. When she finish dance he goes to her ask how much she want and comeback to me said 100 mil for 30 minutes. Its sounds not right to me because by the Bogota map list this place girls cost 50 mil for 20 minutes. So I told him gracias I don't need that girl and waiter left. After 5 minutes I walk myself to that girl and ask how much she want for 30 minutes she told 80 mil and I agree (lesson learn better deal straight with girl than ask price for waiter) girl escort me to room staircases up on first floor the room was not clean and small I go shower and wash myself little bit and after ask girl towel she point to toilet paper: the as they don't have towels at this place. The girl I take was venezualian 21 years old name jordania she make me cover blowjob and after she ride on me for a while till I cum. This girl was nothing special. I finish my beer and left. Find a taxi and comeback my hotel will rest for a while and comeback santa fe later tonight maybe will be more action.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2161404]Arrived from medellin check in at my hotel take a shower book uber and went santa fe around 15.00 pm uber drop me between calle 23 and carrera 16. First place visited was punto de oro is was open but few girls inside so I left. I decided walk around so start from carrera 16 see some girls standing outside near short time motels but they was not my type so I comeback to club (calle 23#16-02) opposite punto de oro. Its club without name on the Bogota map but the name of the club is paso Texas I find out it when I go inside. Sit order aquila light for 6000 mil and was looking some girls is dancing. One girl was quiet naughty was dancing naked and pour beer or her tits. Later other girl star dancing and take her clothes of she has a piercing in her pussy so its looks sexy for me and she was not so bad looking compare with other 6-8 girls inside so I decided to take her. I pay 40 mil for 20 minutes. The girl escort me to the room next to the bar on ground floor. The room was so small like a prison cell I start to take of my clothes already and other girl come and said go other room it was little bit bigger. I.

F. uck the girl for 20 minutes but could cum. Next place I went it was atons club it was open but just few girls inside so I left. Next I try to go fiebre sex strip club but security guy told me is not open yet. So my next stop was at club la cosona have maybe 20 girls inside but just 2-3 I like I order aquila light for 8000 mil I ask waiter how much is girls for 30 minutes he told me every girls is asking diffrent he ask me which girl I like I told him I like the petite girl who is dancing now with taattos. When she finish dance he goes to her ask how much she want and comeback to me said 100 mil for 30 minutes. Its sounds not right to me because by the Bogota map list this place girls cost 50 mil for 20 minutes. So I told him gracias I don't need that girl and waiter left. After 5 minutes I walk myself to that girl and ask how much she want for 30 minutes she told 80 mil and I agree (lesson learn better deal straight with girl than ask price for waiter) girl escort me to room staircases up on first floor the room was not clean and small I go shower and wash myself little bit and after ask girl towel she point to toilet paper: the as they don't have towels at this place. The girl I take was venezualian 21 years old name jordania she make me cover blowjob and after she ride on me for a while till I cum. This girl was nothing special. I finish my beer and left. Find a taxi and comeback my hotel will rest for a while and comeback santa fe later tonight maybe will be more action.[/QUOTE]Good information in advance of my trip. Thanks for sharing.

Arrived around 21.00 pm at santa fe first place visited is.

Troya club corona is 20 mil inside have 8-10 girls not so good looking. I ask one girl how much she want for 30 minutes she told me 150 I just laugh and said no. After few seconds see said me 100 mil. I drink my beer and left.

Lions club I like this place so many cute venezualians girls inside aquila light is 7 mil and they have drink prices stick on tables so no rip off. Girls asking 100 mil for 30 minutes. Modern nice place.

Fiebre sex modern club have 2 stages have some beautiful girls aquila light 13 mil I ask waitress how much girls asking for 30 minutes she told can be diffrent from 110 mil and more (if I understand correct with my shit spanish).

Paisas good looking strip club aquila light was 8 0 r 9 mil have some beautiful girls I ask one girl how much she want for 30 minutes she told me 140 mil.

Atons club I like this place have some cute girls and was many people inside around 23.00 pm beer was cheap 6 mil for aquila light. I saw some very cute girl and invite her to my table I bought her a drink she was from venezuela 21 years old with big breast and nice ass also have brace on her teeth I ask how much she want for 30 minutes and we agree on 80 mil. We go at room at atons on second floor the room is average here like other places. She done covered blowjob and I fuck her hard till I cum. I ask her whatsapp but she didint give me. After she ask me to buy her food but I said next time. I take a taxi and left.

I think santa fe is much safer at night than medellin el centro at night. At santa fe plenty of people at night if you stick to main club areas. I feel safe there.

Does anyone have a feedback on success rate of seeking arrangement in Bogota or Colombia in general?

Thanks, HH.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2161482]Troya club corona is 20 mil[/QUOTE]The domestic Club Colombia beer was 6 mil pesos. (IMO, very good beer).

20 mil pesos for imported corona seems too much. There is at least 1 waiter that will totally rip you off if you're foreigner. That scamming prick added a 67% tip (from 6 K to 10 K). If you ask or order from the bartender, he should not lie nor rip you off.

I recall that Troya Club was making you buy a corona as you enter for a weekend night cover charge. I think it was 10 mil pesos?

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2161404](lesson learn better deal straight with girl than ask price for waiter)[/QUOTE]

Usually a good idea. In the 3rd world (developing economy I think is the PC term), it's best not to have too many hands in on the transaction, especially waiters in the red light district.

[QUOTE=Routard;2095695]You are right, it's Calle 58 bis#10-05, in front of the famous nightclub Theatron.[/QUOTE]I'm landing in Bogota late tonight, will probably get to the apartment around 1 am. The apartment is very close to this place, so seems like a good place to start the trip. Has anyone been recently who can confirm that they're still open. How many girls are likely to be there late Tuesday night or any other useful information. Thanks.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2161910]The domestic Club Colombia beer was 6 mil pesos. (IMO, very good beer).

20 mil pesos for imported corona seems too much. There is at least 1 waiter that will totally rip you off if you're foreigner. That scamming prick added a 67% tip (from 6 K to 10 K). If you ask or order from the bartender, he should not lie nor rip you off.

I recall that Troya Club was making you buy a corona as you enter for a weekend night cover charge. I think it was 10 mil pesos?



Usually a good idea. In the 3rd world (developing economy I think is the PC term), it's best not to have too many hands in on the transaction, especially waiters in the red light district.[/QUOTE]No it was no entry cover charge because it was Sunday. When I walk inside I ask aquilla light waiter told me not have so I order corona probably he rip off me but at lions club corona was also like 15 mil if I remember right and it has prices of alcohol stick at table.

[QUOTE=PuntingGeorge;2162174]I'm landing in Bogota late tonight, will probably get to the apartment around 1 am. The apartment is very close to this place, so seems like a good place to start the trip. Has anyone been recently who can confirm that they're still open. How many girls are likely to be there late Tuesday night or any other useful information. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Sarita got in trouble with Tronos, I can't comment more on the board. She does not own anymore Tronos. Not sure if someone else goes on with this swing club. If so, the spirit of this great swing club has gone anyway.

[QUOTE=Routard;2162333]Sarita got in trouble with Tronos, I can't comment more on the board. She does not own anymore Tronos. Not sure if someone else goes on with this swing club. If so, the spirit of this great swing club has gone anyway.[/QUOTE]Okay, thanks, I'll try somewhere else. I've had a look through the list of clubs open past 1 am but any recommendations in that specific area for tonight? Not fussy what kind of club, I just don't really want to spend my first night club hopping after a long day flying. Would prefer some guaranteed action to start the trip.

First of all, basics for newbies.

I changed a small amount at a travelex before I left, as I like to land in a foreign country with some local currency in my pocket. I knew it was expensive but didn't mind for a small amount and assumed it would be cheaper than the change place on arrival. I was wrong. The change place in the terminal is advertising 2,600 to the USD with no fees, against the interbank rate of 2,786, so actually very reasonable.

Arrivals is easy, if a little busy. Fill in a basic form, go through passport control with no picture or fingerprint scanning, pick up your luggage, go through customs, then line up to put your luggage through an x-ray. I could have been lucky but it was a lot quicker than clearing immigration and customs used to be at the major US airports, before they introduced the APC and GE machines.

Took an Uber. Arrived in two minutes but he went upstairs to departures. Actually works out okay because downstairs outside arrivals is a zoo with the taxis and the family rides.

Got to my airbnb around 1:30 last night and ventured out to see what I could find. One club wouldn't let me in because I wasn't carrying ID. The places with neon lights seemed to be dancing clubs or regular bars. Headed to Pussy House but arrived as they were closing. A few of the girls who had just come off shift were standing outside. One of them smiled at me, so I went over and chatted to her.

She agreed to come to the apt with me for two hours but wanted money upfront. I never pay upfront but understood from her perspective that she had just met me on the street, so I could be some time wasting bum. Also, it was after 2 am, so it was her or start making phone calls for home delivery. I offered her half now and half in the apt, which she accepted.

Not only was this girl extremely attractive but I don't think I've ever had such enthusiasm. She was either having a great time or she's a great actress, either way, I had an incredible time. If this is a taste of what Bogota has to offer, I'm in for a fun few days and will have to question my loyalty to Sosua.

Shout out to Cunning Stunt who mentioned that the girls loved his Lovehoney Bullet. I bought one and boy did she love it.

[QUOTE=PuntingGeorge;2162700]Headed to Pussy House but arrived as they were closing. A few of the girls who had just come off shift were standing outside. One of them smiled at me, so I went over and chatted to her.

She agreed to come to the apt with me for two hours but wanted money upfront. I never pay upfront but understood from her perspective that she had just met me on the street, so I could be some time wasting bum. Also, it was after 2 am, so it was her or start making phone calls for home delivery. I offered her half now and half in the apt, which she accepted.[/QUOTE]You forgot to answer one of the most important questions, how much?

[QUOTE=PuntingGeorge;2162700]If this is a taste of what Bogota has to offer, I'm in for a fun few days and will have to question my loyalty to Sosua.[/QUOTE]I have always said that most of the guys that rave over Sosua have never been to the major mongering places like Colombia, Brazil, Thailand, and Philippines. Sure you might have some fun there, but as far as mongering goes, it pales in comparison.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2162751]You forgot to answer one of the most important questions, how much?[/QUOTE]I normally would but wasn't sure the price I paid this time would help anyone, as picking up a girl on the street in Chapinero on her way home from work isn't a common scenario, based on what I've read on here, plus I didn't really bargain much, I just wanted to guarantee myself a fun night and she was hotttt.

She asked for 100 k per hour. I offered 150 k for two hours which she quickly accepted (a sign I could have done better). When I said I wanted everything she said no anal and 20 k for BBBJ so I paid her 80 k in the street and 90 k when we were done. She asked me to order an uber to get her home, which was only local, so 5 k. She also liked the cigarettes I was smoking and asked if she could have a pack, plus 10 k. So total was 185 k for two hours, including everything I wanted, although 15 k was a well earned tip from me.

Does anyone used the photoprepagos service?

I found some pretty girls on it, with the filter "independent" and with reviews, but I'm not sure.

I will be staying in Chapinero next week.

I took Woodman09 up on his offer of a guided tour around Santa Fe. I had high expectations but they were exceeded. I'm not sure I can paint a true picture with words. The YouTube videos of SF don't do it justice. Picture 100's of stunning girls lining the streets. I'm talking loads of 8's, 9's and 10's. In fact, I would say there were more which ranked 8 or above than 7 or below. Mostly Venezuelans, but I like them. We went on a walking tour through many of the clubs as well. A couple were a bit loud for my tastes, a couple didn't have many girls I fancied, then we got to Venus and Troya. To be fair, if I hadn't seen those two, the other ones would still have kept me happily busy, but this is what blew me away about SF, there are so many top clubs, that the good clubs seem mediocre, and there are so many 8+ girls, that I happily passed on girls I would normally be very happy to session with.

Okay, enough drivel. To the numbers.

Chica in Venus asked 60, I said es mucho, so she dropped to 50, I said okay. She gave me a tame (by SF standard) lapdance for a while before I took her up. Room was okay, big enough with reasonably sized bed, relatively clean and basic bathroom. The club provide a condom and some rolled up toiler paper for cleanup, a wet-wipe would not have gone amiss. Session was awesome! After the session I went downstairs to recuperate, got chatting to another chica who asked for 50, I said es mucho, so she dropped to 40. I assume 40 is the bottom line there. There were girls there getting stark naked and smashing their tits and pussy into guys faces. Two girls working together who were licking each other's pussies in the punter's face. Absolutely insane!

Moved on to Troya, which had even hotter girls, although not quite as active / dirty. Found a shy Venezuelan I liked, I thought the price there was 60 but she quoted me 50. Went upstairs and the girl on reception said minimum is 56. Odd number but okay. Similar room to Venus, same activity kit provided. Another great session.

Woodman09 and I had been at it for more than 4 hours at this point and we were both spent, so we called it a night. He's awesome. Any newbie to Bogota would be crazy not to take him up on his tour guide service.

A couple of lessons from today. I'm used to taking out cash with my debit card over the counter at the bank in Sosua, so no limit and no fees. I tried Bancolombia today and they said I could only withdraw cash from the ATM, so 600 k max and 12 k fee. Not great but got me through the day. Uber is fantastic and super cheap. Used it a few times today. Paid around 5 k (I think that's their minimum here) for a 6:30 minute /3. 15 km ride and under 8 k for a 15 minute /6 km ride. They arrived very quickly each time and had no problem finding me or my destination. On one trip Uber Black was cheaper than the regular car.

It's 1 am and last night's chica is begging me to come see her at the club. I'm sorely tempted.

[QUOTE=PuntingGeorge;2162968]I took Woodman09 up on his offer of a guided tour around Santa Fe. I had high expectations but they were exceeded. I'm not sure I can paint a true picture with words. The YouTube videos of SF don't do it justice. Picture 100's of stunning girls lining the streets. I'm talking loads of 8's, 9's and 10's. In fact, I would say there were more which ranked 8 or above than 7 or below. Mostly Venezuelans, but I like them. We went on a walking tour through many of the clubs as well. A couple were a bit loud for my tastes, a couple didn't have many girls I fancied, then we got to Venus and Troya. To be fair, if I hadn't seen those two, the other ones would still have kept me happily busy, but this is what blew me away about SF, there are so many top clubs, that the good clubs seem mediocre, and there are so many 8+ girls, that I happily passed on girls I would normally be very happy to session with.

Okay, enough drivel. To the numbers.

Chica in Venus asked 60, I said es mucho, so she dropped to 50, I said okay. She gave me a tame (by SF standard) lapdance for a while before I took her up. Room was okay, big enough with reasonably sized bed, relatively clean and basic bathroom. The club provide a condom and some rolled up toiler paper for cleanup, a wet-wipe would not have gone amiss. Session was awesome! After the session I went downstairs to recuperate, got chatting to another chica who asked for 50, I said es mucho, so she dropped to 40. I assume 40 is the bottom line there. There were girls there getting stark naked and smashing their tits and pussy into guys faces. Two girls working together who were licking each other's pussies in the punter's face. Absolutely insane!

Moved on to Troya, which had even hotter girls, although not quite as active / dirty. Found a shy Venezuelan I liked, I thought the price there was 60 but she quoted me 50. Went upstairs and the girl on reception said minimum is 56. Odd number but okay. Similar room to Venus, same activity kit provided. Another great session.

Woodman09 and I had been at it for more than 4 hours at this point and we were both spent, so we called it a night. He's awesome. Any newbie to Bogota would be crazy not to take him up on his tour guide service.

A couple of lessons from today. I'm used to taking out cash with my debit card over the counter at the bank in Sosua, so no limit and no fees. I tried Bancolombia today and they said I could only withdraw cash from the ATM, so 600 k max and 12 k fee. Not great but got me through the day. Uber is fantastic and super cheap. Used it a few times today. Paid around 5 k (I think that's their minimum here) for a 6:30 minute /3. 15 km ride and under 8 k for a 15 minute /6 km ride. They arrived very quickly each time and had no problem finding me or my destination. On one trip Uber Black was cheaper than the regular car.

It's 1 am and last night's chica is begging me to come see her at the club. I'm sorely tempted.[/QUOTE]Nice report mate to take money from ATM use BBVA ATM they not charge any fee for my banK card also the allowed just 300000 pesos per one go but my bank don't put any charge so I just take money and repeat it again also you can download app for your phone is calling.

ATM hero its shows all ATM around the world and how much they charge and what is maximum withdraw.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2163072]Nice report mate to take money from ATM use BBVA ATM they not charge any fee for my banK card also the allowed just 300000 pesos per one go but my bank don't put any charge so I just take money and repeat it again also you can download app for your phone is calling.

ATM hero its shows all ATM around the world and how much they charge and what is maximum withdraw.[/QUOTE]Great tip, thanks. I've been following your SDQ reports. Nice job!

[QUOTE=PuntingGeorge;2163078]Great tip, thanks. I've been following your SDQ reports. Nice job![/QUOTE]Also if you live england you can open bank name starling its bank without branches you just download app for you phone put your details and they will send mastercard to you home address. You will confirm your ID by the app later. Everything is totally free and they give excellent conversation rate without any fee when you take out money from ATM abroad and also when shopping with card. You control your card by app. I take just small amount of cash for emergency and just using that card when I am travelling and works great 10 diffrent countries so far. Just google starling bank on you will find more information!!

[QUOTE=PuntingGeorge;2162968]After the session I went downstairs to recuperate, got chatting to another chica who asked for 50, I said es mucho, so she dropped to 40. I assume 40 is the bottom line there. There were girls there getting stark naked and smashing their tits and pussy into guys faces. Two girls working together who were licking each other's pussies in the punter's face. Absolutely insane!

Moved on to Troya, which had even hotter girls.[/QUOTE]I like to be the one that said I told you so, because I fucking told you so. With pussy that cheap and chicks that look that good how can you go wrong? Even if you did go wrong you didn't pay as much to fuck as guys in other places pay to see a chick nekkit, or for a dance. I told you dancing was free! Now you see why I have never been anywhere but Santa Fe in the last 13 years. I thought I could talk them down low, but man you win the prize on that one.

[QUOTE=Pokeris;2163097]Also if you live england you can open bank name starling its bank without branches you just download app for you phone put your details and they will send mastercard to you home address. You will confirm your ID by the app later. Everything is totally free and they give excellent conversation rate without any fee when you take out money from ATM abroad and also when shopping with card. You control your card by app. I take just small amount of cash for emergency and just using that card when I am travelling and works great 10 diffrent countries so far. Just google starling bank on you will find more information!![/QUOTE]Yep, best account. I have it and use it in the DR, USA, Europe and used it here. Downloaded ATM hero and found an ATM 2 minute walk from my apartment with max 900 k and no fee. Starling gave me better than the interbank rate, so perfect. Thanks for the tip.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2163112]I like to be the one that said I told you so, because I fucking told you so. With pussy that cheap and chicks that look that good how can you go wrong? Even if you did go wrong you didn't pay as much to fuck as guys in other places pay to see a chick nekkit, or for a dance. I told you dancing was free! Now you see why I have never been anywhere but Santa Fe in the last 13 years. I thought I could talk them down low, but man you win the prize on that one.[/QUOTE]I humbly bow to you Oh Wise One LOL.

We should go hunting together sometime. You'll show me the good places and I'll teach you the art of negotiation.

So this is a Venezolana looking to meet gringos for fun. If interested I can pass her number onto you.

She is 23 5'6", Nice C-D cup natural. Nice big ass. She screams too. Will get some more revealing photos soon.

Here's a few important photos Message for number.

For those following my adventure, below is the link to this afternoon's activities.

[QUOTE=PuntingGeorge;2163309]A few Chapinero updates[/QUOTE]I posted it under Bogota FAQ's as it included some updates to Routard and World Travel 69's legendary guides and maps.

I'll be in Bogota next week and based on reading if I am desiring the hottest quality girls not needing to worry about money to a certain degree is Lidos the best option?

Mixed day.

I decided I wanted fun in a jacuzzi today. Called my local guru, aka Woodman09, who told me that the love motels have them. Went to check a few out and settled on Nuevo Chalet. It was 94 for 4 hours, which is mid range. Dandy and Amarte were around 130 and there were others starting from 60. I liked this place though because it was clean, modern, had a rain shower, love swing etc. Called my chica from yesterday at Sala de Massage and booked her for 2 hours at 220 (I know I could have gotten her for less, but wanted her to show up in a good mood). Long story short, she was fantastic but the water in the jacuzzi was tepid at best, certainly not warm enough to get in. Called reception, they sent people up, drained it, told me to wait 10 minutes, blah blah on and on, basically it didn't happen. I was a pissed because I have a very nice apartment a few minutes walk away where I could have met my chica, I only booked the motel because I wanted the jacuzzi, but there was nothing to be done and I wasn't going to let it ruin my afternoon of pleasure. So, motel shit, chica awesome. Better than motel awesome, chica shit LOL.

On the way to check out the love motels, I checked out a spa which really impressed me, despite not actually using it. See my post under Bogota Lists.

Went to Pussy House around 11 pm. The place was heaving, standing room only. As I'm flying solo, I wasn't going to buy a bottle to get a table. Plus I wasn't massively impressed with the chicas. The place is nice but nothing special. Promptly left and walked across to Las Divas. Also packed, when I got to the top of the stairs I was hit by the humidity from overcrowding. Plenty of roaming chicas. A mixed bag, some nice, a few not so nice and a couple super hot. I sat around for a while checking out the scene, waiting to find a chica I really fancied, until one walked past and plopped herself on my lap. She smelled like she'd had a few drinks but she was very flirty and quite cute. She offered to dance for 20 k or fuck for 60 k I opted for the former. Paid her and she promptly disappeared. Came back a few minutes later and tried to find a better spot for me to sit for the dance. While she was leading me round she asked me to buy her a beer, I said dance first then we'll see (so far I'd handed over 20 k to see her disappear then return and start pissing about with seating arrangements). She pushed and pushed but I stuck to my guns, dance then drink. Waiter came over and tried to convince me to buy her a drink but I said no. They stared chatting, my Spanish is poor but I got the impression she told him to bring her a drink on my tab anyway. I thought fuck this, I'm cutting my losses, so I just got up and walked out. Maybe I've been spoiled by Santa Fe but not digging the strip / sex clubs in Chapinero.

Called an Uber and headed to Venus in SF. Place was also buzzing but in a good way. Great music, great vibe, lots of dancing chicas and lots of available ones. Woodman09's chica from Wednesday came over to ask if he was with me, I guess he creates an impression haha. I started dirty dancing with her. Her opening bid was 40 k to go up, so I just said yes. When I'd had enough grinding, we went upstairs. She asked for the cash to hand to the receptionist and I gave her a 50, naturally she held on to the 10 change. I told her she can keep it if she blows me without a condom and she smiled.

In closing, SF is still Mecca. Chapinero is awesome for daytime, not convinced about nighttime. Love motels are awesome, just check the water temperature before you hand over your dosh.

I'd just like to commend the Uber driver who drove me home from Venus for at least looking before blowing through the red lights LOL. Seriously though, he's not the first one, they treat traffic signals as suggestions at night when the roads are quiet.

[QUOTE=PuntingGeorge;2163914]I'd just like to commend the Uber driver who drove me home from Venus for at least looking before blowing through the red lights LOL. Seriously though, he's not the first one, they treat traffic signals as suggestions at night when the roads are quiet.[/QUOTE]You wil find that all over Latin America in order not to get robbed.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2163982]You wil find that all over Latin America in order not to get robbed.[/QUOTE]Ah. Makes sense.

Thanks for the response. Nice to know someone is reading my posts.

[QUOTE=PuntingGeorge;2164077]Ah. Makes sense.

Thanks for the response. Nice to know someone is reading my posts.[/QUOTE]Lots of very interested readers! Keep up the great reports.

[QUOTE=PuntingGeorge;2163899]- [B]Divas Spa[/B] Carrera 9 a #61-57. Tel: 322 774 5172. Open Monday to Saturday 9 am - 9 pm. Sunday 10 am - 6 pm. Price are 60 k for fully clothed massage with HJ, 120 k for massage in undies with oral, or 150 k full service. All one hour.[/QUOTE]Looks like my posts are being read and World Travel 69 doesn't waste any time, the spa was already on the map when I went out earlier.

I fancied some backdoor action today and they have it on their list of services. They wouldn't give me the price over the phone, they told me I'd have to discuss it with the girl in the room. I knew that meant it wasn't going to be cheap but I wanted to try the place and wanted the service, so figured I'd go for it.

Got there and started the chica parade. Again, all dolled up and tastefully dressed. I think it was six today but lost count as I was trying to remember the names of the chicas I wanted. I really liked 3 of them but settled on Helena / Elena, a tall Venezuelan who gave off the dirtiest vibe and had the face and body to match.

Was taken up to a nice large room with a low bed and mirror across the wall at the correct height, and a decent en suite bathroom (had a look at the other rooms on the way out and they all look similar). Started negotiating and finished on 300 k for everything.

The place seems a bit confused. In true spa style, it has genuinely fresh towels, nice oils, piped music, but the massage is on a bed, albeit a narrow one, as opposed to a massage table. Everyone understands why the men come there but I think the focus is more masseuses willing to perform extra services than working girls advertising as a massage service.

Started off with the only proper snog I've had since landing here, before she asked me to lay down and gave a reasonable massage for around 15 minutes, after which we got down to the main event. She did not disappoint. Great skills and took it in the arse like a champ. After I'd finished she gave me a foot massage, then I went for a surprisingly warm and powerful shower by Bogota standards. Again, nice shower products and sealed toothbrush available. They're trying to pull off classy spa and do a reasonable job of it. The session lasted 50 minutes, not including the shower.

So you're probably shouting clip joint / time waster at the computer now and you're probably right, but you know what, I'm satisfied and would go again. Yes, by Bogota standards it's expensive, yes I didn't get a full hour and yes a large portion of the session was wasted on massage, but to get a chica of her caliber back home to perform the services she did, with as much enthusiasm, would cost me at least 3 times what I paid her, and I probably still wouldn't get the Venezuelan flirty girlfriend experience. I certainly wouldn't see her regularly but will happily put her on my list for one session per trip.

She gave me her phone number and said I can message her to check she's available before I come or she can visit me. Prices to visit me were the same as in the club for an hour but cheaper for 2 hours. Doubt I'll take her up on her offer this trip but will probably invite her to my place or a love motel for a couple hours next trip, in the hope that outside the club more time is dedicated to sex than massage.

Headed out in the afternoon for a walking tour of central Bogota with Mr Woodman before shooting some pool together (total rip off, 4 k an hour LOL). We then moved on to SF around 7 pm. The place was buzzing as usual. Chicas standing on the street in Victoria's Secret's finest. We walked through a few clubs before settling in Troya. At risk of repeating myself, the quantity and quality of partially clothed and fully naked chicas doing all sorts of nasty things was off the hook. As it's a Saturday night, they make you buy a beer at the door for 6 k but once inside you don't get hassled to buy anything, so if you really wanted, you could pay a couple of bucks to sit there with a cold one watching one of life's best shows. A chubby (by Troya standards) but very cute girl was making eyes at me, so I invited her over for a drink. She seemed like a lot of fun and they do say that sex with chubby girls is more fun, so after some dancing and playing I took her up and paid my 60 k. Well guys, it's true. She took a proper pounding and thanked me for it haha. Went back down and decided to try out one of the 10's. Invited her over for a drink but she wasn't putting out much, so I left and headed to Club California, where I'd seen a few 10's when we walked through earlier. Spotted a cute spinner who looked a little shy and decided to find out what she was like with a drink in her. Invited her over and bought her a pina colada for 10 k. We chatted and danced for a while, no pressure, super relaxed. When I was ready I asked how much for a session, she said 50, don't know what the standard rate at California is but she'd certainly earned it, so just said vamos. The quality of the shagging area isn't up to the Venus and Troya standards, plus it looks like street girls use it, so there was a small wait. Chica was fantastic though.

It was now midnight and I was spent, both physically and financially. I'd underestimated how quickly drinks would add up and don't carry much cash with me when I'm out and about in SF. According to google maps, the nearest ATM was more than half a mile from the club, so, much as it hurt me to leave early on my last night in Bogota, I wasn't prepared to walk through unknown parts of Santa Fe to an ATM in an area which was who knows how safe. I called an Uber and headed home. I'd had a cracking night and tomorrow is another day, plus I needed to get home with enough energy to post this report tonight, otherwise it would never happen.

[QUOTE=PuntingGeorge;2164343]so I left and headed to Club California, where I'd seen a few 10's when we walked through earlier.[/QUOTE]I think this place is new. I saw it last time and there were some fine women hanging in front of it with regular clothes on. Thanks for checking it out and getting the scoop.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2164791]I think this place is new. I saw it last time and there were some fine women hanging in front of it with regular clothes on. Thanks for checking it out and getting the scoop.[/QUOTE]It's on two floors. I only checked out the first floor of the club, there is a mezzanine level, fully visible from below and vice versa. First floor had nice sofas to sit and get acquainted with the chicas. The only downside is the music is very loud. Must have been 30 chicas, plenty of which were available, which was a little surprising for a Saturday night. It worked for me though. I'll happily return.

Well that's me off. Had a relaxing final day. Finished it off with repeat booking in my apartment just before I had to leave for the airport, to guarantee I leave on a high.

Parting words of advice for newbies is Bogotá airport has a long line for passport control (and no priority lane) so leave at least half an hour to get through, probably more to be safe. My AA flight started boarding almost an hour before departure. Worth noting if you want to guarantee overhead space where you're sitting and not have the flight attendant start looking for space 30 rows back.

Uber driver wouldn't go to departures, he went into the car park because in his words "Uber is illegal at the airport". Not a big deal, just leave another few minutes to get upstairs to departures.

Tried to connect to airport WiFi but couldn't sign in, so don't rely on it.

It's been a great adventure, can't wait for my next trip.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2164791]I think this place is new. I saw it last time and there were some fine women hanging in front of it with regular clothes on. Thanks for checking it out and getting the scoop.[/QUOTE]Its been open for several years. Calle 23 between Carrera 15 and 16. But I'm not sure it had any real talent until more recently.

For one who has not been to either but is going later in the year, how do they match up. Someone may have done this topic before and you can guide me there or just offer your opinion. Thanks.

[QUOTE=PuntingGeorge;2162700]First of all, basics for newbies.

I changed a small amount at a travelex before I left, as I like to land in a foreign country with some local currency in my pocket. I knew it was expensive but didn't mind for a small amount and assumed it would be cheaper than the change place on arrival. I was wrong. The change place in the terminal is advertising 2,600 to the USD with no fees, against the interbank rate of 2,786, so actually very reasonable.

Arrivals is easy, if a little busy. Fill in a basic form, go through passport control with no picture or fingerprint scanning, pick up your luggage, go through customs, then line up to put your luggage through an x-ray. I could have been lucky but it was a lot quicker than clearing immigration and customs used to be at the major US airports, before they introduced the APC and GE machines..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2160977]That's why I probably will never go back to the Dominican Republic. I went there once. Probably won't return, since Colombia, overall, is so much better than the DR.[/QUOTE]

The Venezuelan chicks in Bogota are usually had by the locals for 10 k-30 k. For 30 k you are getting a GODDESS.

This has brought prices down all over, and the savvy pervert will take advantage of what's now more of a buyer's market than ever.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Watcher51;2165288]For one who has not been to either but is going later in the year, how do they match up. Someone may have done this topic before and you can guide me there or just offer your opinion. Thanks.[/QUOTE]That's a very broad question and doesn't have a simple answer. Depends what you're looking for, which part you're planning to visit etc.

[QUOTE=BangoCheito;2165420]The Venezuelan chicks in Bogota are usually had by the locals for 10 k-30 k. For 30 k you are getting a GODDESS.

This has brought prices down all over, and the savvy pervert will take advantage of what's now more of a buyer's market than ever.

Cheers![/QUOTE]Where can the locals get any chic for 10 k and what does she look like??

I don't consider myself expert on either (but I have general knowledge of both Colombia and the Caribbean).

One thing to consider is weather. The DR is going to be great in Winter,: sunny, warm, beaches and reasonably long days, but miserable in summer: super hot and humid with the threat of hurricanes that can not only shut things down but wipe them out at a moment's notice. Bogota has rainy periods but generally cool (not cold) temperature and average length days all year round. I think that spring and fall are the wettest months, so during those periods, which tend to be nice in the Caribbean, especially spring, I might choose the DR, but in summer, the DR has a large potential for miserable weather whereas Bogota should be pleasant. Then again, in the Americas the place called "the land of eternal spring" is usually Medellin (on the other side of the Atlantic it's the Canary Islands, but the P4 P scene there is more complicated).

Also, I also think it depends on whether you prefer dark skinned afro / latin girls or light skinned euro / latin ones. You're welcome to like both and I hope this is not a racist choice, but part of why we're on here (I think) is to find what we like without judgement. Bogota and the DR are going to be different ethnically.

[QUOTE=ErrolFlynn;2165874]Also, I also think it depends on whether you prefer dark skinned afro / latin girls or light skinned euro / latin ones. You're welcome to like both and I hope this is not a racist choice, but part of why we're on here (I think) is to find what we like without judgement. Bogota and the DR are going to be different ethnically.[/QUOTE]The general city of Bogota is going to be a different ethnic makeup than the country of DR, but I have dated a few Black Colombian chicks there and there are plenty of them to go around in Santa Fe. Years ago I fucked a chick there that looked like Serena Williams. But for the most part, Blacks in Colombia are settled around Cali and the coast. My first time going to Cartagena I was surprised to see that everyone was Black. After going to Bogota and Cali I was not expecting it. That is why experience is the best teacher. But as PG said, his question was too broad.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;882022]You gotta love Santa Fe. Once when I was there I hit a chick who looked like Serena Williams' long lost twin. All for the meager sum of 20,000 COP![/QUOTE]Damn I have been on this forum a long time! Post from 2009.

[QUOTE=Watcher51;2165288]For one who has not been to either but is going later in the year, how do they match up. Someone may have done this topic before and you can guide me there or just offer your opinion. Thanks.[/QUOTE]My trip to the DR was about 12 years ago. It was OK, but many other places are better, IMO. I went to Colombia last year; really liked it.

Main reason why I like Bogota over Sosua / Boca Chica: I think the scam factor from the Colombian girls is less than the DR girls. There has been numerous reports on this forum about scams / problems from the DR freelancers.

I have my own story: On my first day in Boca Chica, I picked up a SW. After I was done and paid her, she demanded $100 US. I said no. She threatened to call the police. I read what Mr. E wrote. I said go ahead. She smirked; of course she didn't call the police. But she screamed for a few minutes. The couple at the front desk were no help. I offered her 500 or 1000 pesos. After couple of minutes, she took it. Mr. E would have been ashamed of me. I knew that she could do nothing to me. But I wanted the conflict to end. I paid the extortion as a convenience fee. Afterwards, I was pissed off, and I got turned off to Boca Chica.

I haven't read or experienced anything in Colombia like the SW scams that I have read about in the DR. The worst thing about Colombia is the up sell tip requirement for BBBJ.

Other points why I like Colombia over DR:

- Fantastic mongering information on the Colombian forum. I love the maps and lists. Makes it so much easier.

- Fantastic strip joints in Bogota.

- Relaxed attitude about weed in Colombia. Weed has been decriminalized.

- IMO, food is better in Colombia at the upper-mid restaurants. Food and beers are about half price from the US at the nice places.

- If you fly out of LAX, there are direct flights to Bogota. There is no direct flight from LAX to the DR.

- They have good poker games in Bogota and Medellin.

Hi.

I'm back from Bogota, fantastic trip and experiences. I m reading below that there are maps and lists. It would have saved me time to get those. Where can I find them?

Also, does anybody would be aware of Colombian forum fed by locals?

[QUOTE=BangoCheito;2165420]The Venezuelan chicks in Bogota are usually had by the locals for 10 k-30 k. For 30 k you are getting a GODDESS.

This has brought prices down all over, and the savvy pervert will take advantage of what's now more of a buyer's market than ever.

Cheers![/QUOTE]I trust you on that, but can you please be more specific? Where can you get those?

[QUOTE=Questner;2166221]I trust you on that, but can you please be more specific? Where can you get those?[/QUOTE]Hi,

In all chapinero clubs (there are a lot between calle 72 in north to calle 61 in south next to Caracas avenue) there are "Venezuelans". Prices are the same for those girls than for the Colombian girls because set up by the clubs. T.

The min in general (for what they call 1 "rato" EG 15 to 25 min) is 30 k. For 1 h it's 70 k. I found however a club randomly working in the streets where I was asked 50 k for 45 minutes! The girls was excellent and was from Venezuela.

Honestly, 30,50 or even 70 k, converted in dollars remain a very good deal.

Some Colombian girls complaint that Venezuelans push the price down, that may be true but, what I saw is that, with or without Venezuelans, there are enough Colombian girls on this market to make it competitive enough!!

All in all, Colombian girls are by far the majority of the girls (Cartagena being an exception).

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2166143]My trip to the DR was about 12 years ago. It was OK, but many other places are better, IMO. I went to Colombia last year; really liked it.

Main reason why I like Bogota over Sosua / Boca Chica: I think the scam factor from the Colombian girls is less than the DR girls. There has been numerous reports on this forum about scams / problems from the DR freelancers.

I have my own story: On my first day in Boca Chica, I picked up a SW. After I was done and paid her, she demanded $100 US. I said no. She threatened to call the police. I read what Mr. E wrote. I said go ahead. She smirked; of course she didn't call the police. But she screamed for a few minutes. The couple at the front desk were no help. I offered her 500 or 1000 pesos. After couple of minutes, she took it. Mr. E would have been ashamed of me. I knew that she could do nothing to me. But I wanted the conflict to end. I paid the extortion as a convenience fee. Afterwards, I was pissed off, and I got turned off to Boca Chica.

I haven't read or experienced anything in Colombia like the SW scams that I have read about in the DR. The worst thing about Colombia is the up sell tip requirement for BBBJ.

Other points why I like Colombia over DR:

- Fantastic mongering information on the Colombian forum. I love the maps and lists. Makes it so much easier.

- Fantastic strip joints in Bogota.

- Relaxed attitude about weed in Colombia. Weed has been decriminalized.

- IMO, food is better in Colombia at the upper-mid restaurants. Food and beers are about half price from the US at the nice places.

- If you fly out of LAX, there are direct flights to Bogota. There is no direct flight from LAX to the DR.

- They have good poker games in Bogota and Medellin.[/QUOTE]I might add that BBC beer (Bogota Brewery Company) is pretty good to boot!

TTM.

Hi everyone,

I just date a regular girl at the BBC last Tuesday and we ended up by my hostel. Awesome night in Bogotá for me!

[QUOTE=Prelude141;2166607]Hi,

In all chapinero clubs (there are a lot between calle 72 in north to calle 61 in south next to Caracas avenue) there are "Venezuelans". Prices are the same for those girls than for the Colombian girls because set up by the clubs. T.

The min in general (for what they call 1 "rato" EG 15 to 25 min) is 30 k. For 1 h it's 70 k. I found however a club randomly working in the streets where I was asked 50 k for 45 minutes! The girls was excellent and was from Venezuela.

Honestly, 30,50 or even 70 k, converted in dollars remain a very good deal.

Some Colombian girls complaint that Venezuelans push the price down, that may be true but, what I saw is that, with or without Venezuelans, there are enough Colombian girls on this market to make it competitive enough!!

All in all, Colombian girls are by far the majority of the girls (Cartagena being an exception).[/QUOTE]I have been to Pussy House and another smaller venue nearby, and haven't seen any goddesses, although there were a few cool inked dancers. I won't be able to distinguish fast between locals and venecas, and honestly it won't matter for me. 80 K is an established base for an hour in a casa as it seems. Santa Fe is still the most fun area. So, my question is geared mostly to how to find a critical number of attractive girls at attractive rates to make a choice for the night, and I have not seen it yet, and definitely no goddesses at 30 K for 30 min.

Links to local discussion is welcome.

Hello fellow mongers,

I am looking to have a threesome with good looking girls, but most importantly with the girls going down on each other full lesbian which I am sure most girls won't do.

I would want to do it back at my place.

My Spanish is good, where would be the best place to begin this search? Thanks!

[QUOTE=LivingFossil;2167188]Hello fellow mongers,

I am looking to have a threesome with good looking girls, but most importantly with the girls going down on each other full lesbian which I am sure most girls won't do.

I would want to do it back at my place.

My Spanish is good, where would be the best place to begin this search? Thanks![/QUOTE]I landed in Bogota yesterday and went to Lidos. I would say a true 3 some is difficult to find. I just negotiated with a girl and her friend and specifically asked them if they were bi sexual and into girls as well. They assured me that they were and of course a different boring story in the bedroom.

The prices at Lidos is very very high. I ordered one bottle of black label scotch and with the takeout fee is $220 k per girl. Then each girl wants 600 k for an all nighter. IMO the girls are hot but not worth that kind of $ but it was an experience.

This place is great!! Got there early around 930 pm only had 7 girls ready. So we ordered a half a bottle and just relaxed. About an hour later there were twice as many girls picked a little cute Colombian Jessika. She quoted me 250 for the hour and paid house fee 60 k so 310 k to go downstairs. Very good session very GFE. Afterwards we went back up and drank more and now there were about 40-50 girls there. Place was packed quite a few lookers. Decided to stick with Jessika since her BBBJCIM was amazing and she was just a fun girl. Agreed on 250 for all night and paid the bar fine 150. All in all she was worth it.

[QUOTE=Questner;2167015]I have been to Pussy House and another smaller venue nearby, and haven't seen any goddesses, although there were a few cool inked dancers. I won't be able to distinguish fast between locals and venecas, and honestly it won't matter for me. 80 K is an established base for an hour in a casa as it seems. Santa Fe is still the most fun area. So, my question is geared mostly to how to find a critical number of attractive girls at attractive rates to make a choice for the night, and I have not seen it yet, and definitely no goddesses at 30 K for 30 min.

Links to local discussion is welcome.[/QUOTE]Don't dream mate. You can search forever. As soon as a chick is above average, she ends up in the northern club and ask 300 k per hour. The chicks perfectly know their value on this market. I saw only 1 exception in the pussy house, a blond girl, white skin called Gina, the tallest and prettiest girl in the club (at least for me) even if it would be a bit just to be a stunner in the northern clubs. Anyway, she charges more even if in the pussyhouse (200 k per hour where standard rate is 150 k) and she is completely crappy in the room. Most of the cute girls in chapinero house are far better and worth the money but a HB10 at 30 k, once again, don't dream.

New to the forum, a little lost, don't see the different posts in the forums which are catalogued per date and time or its one common thread for everything in the city like Medellin.

47 old guy travelling from US to Bogota and Medellin first time, for about a week starting this Wednesday night, reaching Bogota around 9 pm, so thinking of staying overnight in a cheap hotel near Bogota airport and next day fly to Medellin, spend weekend in Medellin, is it best to return on Sunday to Bogota and spend few days in Bogota? Trying the balance the time between the two cites or should I mainly stay at one place.

Need suggestion for reasonably priced hotel for both Medellin and Bogota, which is in a safe area, girlfriend friendly, close to the action. Where to go for action and what are the price ranges, I apologize, I am a newbie here and have a lot of questions, going alone so a little apprehensive, been to Thailand but this is my first trip to Colombia, the only tiny advantage is that I can speak broken Spanish.

Thanks feedback.

Maybe something good here;.

[URL]http://clasificados.eltiempo.com/anuncios-eroticos/masajes/[/URL]

[URL]http://clasificados.eltiempo.com/anuncio/aviso-erotica/10-adictivas-3227745172-reservado-carrera-9a-6157/4821966/[/URL]

Thanks for the info.

I should say my Spanish is excellent and I am very driven to make this happen, haha.

I think I am going to tell the ladies that I will fist pay them for a lesbian show and it is good I will also pay each one of them for the threesome.

I will report back!

I am just wondering if there is a place where I am more likely to find these girls and be able to take them back to my place.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2167368]I landed in Bogota yesterday and went to Lidos. I would say a true 3 some is difficult to find. I just negotiated with a girl and her friend and specifically asked them if they were bi sexual and into girls as well. They assured me that they were and of course a different boring story in the bedroom.

The prices at Lidos is very very high. I ordered one bottle of black label scotch and with the takeout fee is $220 k per girl. Then each girl wants 600 k for an all nighter. IMO the girls are hot but not worth that kind of $ but it was an experience.[/QUOTE]

A little late on the report but my flight was cancelled and things got a bit hectic at the airport.

I went to Las Divas massage. They had about 20 girls working and had a great session with a cute Venezuelan girl. 150+50 for the BBBJ and was very satisfied.

I went to Abudubai a couple hours later and had only one girl working and the madam took my friend down the street to Sensity which she said is the same owner. I took the redhead Colombian at abu and she was sufficient. 180+50 was damage.

So overall 4 days and 4 girls and one girl got me 2 x so I would say well worth it. At my age I just try to get one a day LOL.

It seems like there are beautiful women of all types in Colombia but my preference is for white ladies. Some of the pics I've seen on websites and videos for the brothels and massage parlors in Colombia show mostly darker (more Latina looking or mixed Mestizo) women in those places. Some of the other sites I've researched say that Bogota has mostly Mestizos, and that Medellin has mostly white women. But one site said that Bogota has lots of white women too. Are there a lot of white ladies at the brothels in Bogota? Or should I just go straight to Medellin for that?

But it looks like Bogota has way more options that are close to each other and open at almost anytime. It looks like the options in Medellin are more spread out over the city and a lot of places close pretty early. I only found 2-3 brothels / strip clubs open late.

And do the white girls there like non-white men also? Will they approach you first if you're not white? When I went to Brazil, some of the white Brazilian girls at the brothels / strip clubs turned me down, gave me a bad session, and the ones that I had a good time with, I had to approach them first. But they did approach the white guys. But the black women in Brazil approached me quite a bit. I was surprised to find that dating (even in mongering) is not color blind in Brazil same as it isn't in America.

Also, is the "exit fee" what you pay to take the lady out of the club to a hotel? Or is that what you have to pay if you leave by yourself if you don't chose a girl?

I believe this is true. In fact, I went with a friend to a house in Chapinero, he was charged 30 k. No question venezolanas are everywhere.

On a different subject, it seems strange to me that a gringo would not find the Pussy House impressive. Beers are reasonably priced, and while not all the women are goddesses, there is a goddess here and there and a number of lesser deities. I believe they charged 60 k.

[QUOTE=BangoCheito;2165420]The Venezuelan chicks in Bogota are usually had by the locals for 10 k-30 k. For 30 k you are getting a GODDESS.

This has brought prices down all over, and the savvy pervert will take advantage of what's now more of a buyer's market than ever.

Cheers![/QUOTE]

Been on this forum for a few years now, I have horrible Spanish, but somehow I usually get along. This will be my first time in Colombia, I've only ever played in Tijuana and the Philippines. I'm good looking, in my early 20's and could probably game girls down there, but that's not what I'm looking for on this trip. I have a few questions about how things work down there.

1: Should I stay in a hotel? How easy is it to bring escorts over, does anyone have any experience in this? Looking for a hotel under $40 us. Or should I just stay in a hostel or split it up. Also, is it easier to bring chicas to airbnbs vs hotel?(obviously not bringing to a hostel LOL).

2: Are the clubs like Hong Kong in Tijuana, where you can sit and watch someone stripping, buy a girl a drink and get unlimited touching? If you could describe what the clubs are like that would be awesome.

Someone was saying you have to buy a bottle, I like to drink, but not get too messed up unless I'm with group.

3: On photoprepagos are the prices usually the same as they are listed? Would you prefer they come to your hotel or you go to their apartment?

4: Could someone also explain swinger clubs in a little more detail, those sound fun.

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Kingmonger,

Remember this is P4P. They love your money not you.....if your young and attractive...sure that helps a little...but the bottom line is $$$ rules and that is what will make or break your experience....old & non attractive mongers usually pay more for good service but not all the time. It comes down to you knowing what the rates are and how not be taken advantage of.....you need to flip the script and take advantage of them....to an extent. If the business transaction is good on both sides then the experience tends to be better for all and it does not matter what race you are.

Do you really think you have to pay to leave a place when you did not get any service or taking a girl out? Wtf, really? That would be considered kidnapping/secuestro...lol

Go to Europe if you like Caucasian women. Almost all Colombians are Mestizos and the ones that are 100% white will not be working the industry and be anywhere near your hunting grounds.

0. If your spanish is horrible, I don't think you're going to be gaming anyone regardless. I've played in Tijuana and the Philippines as well, so I know where you're coming from.

1. Most of the chain hotels will charge a fee to bring in guests which are not registered. I recommend AirBnb. I would try to get someplace with a doorman as I've seen some ads specifically say they only go to buildings with doormen. This is probably better for your own safety as well.

2. There's plenty of strip clubs in Bogota, but from what I can tell, there is much less groping when compared to Tijuana (I was in Hong Kong many years, ago, so I can only compare from then). You're welcome to buy girls as many drinks as you want, the difference is that the drinks for girls tend to be the same price as your own drinks, so theres no surcharge. And hence maybe that's why there's less groping? Perhaps? Or more likely I think it may be a cultural difference. Most of the time when a girl sits down with you, she's trying to get you to take her to one of the private rooms. A common MO, is to go into a club and buy a bottle or a half bottle and invite girls to sit down with you and they just share your bottle. No requirement to buy a separate drink for her, unless she really doesn't like what your drinking. As for the comment about having to buy a bottle, I'd say that partially true. You may have to buy a bottle at very specific clubs or to get seated at in particular areas, but I've never been a place where I was required to purchase a bottle. A single beer is fine too.

3. From my experience, prices are usually accurate. But of course they're open to negotiation. I prefer they come to my place as I don't want to spend the time going to find whereever it is they work. That usually involves a small surcharge, maybe 20 k or so.

4. I've never been to swinger clubs. Cannot comment.

Enjoy yourself. Be safe. Improve your spanish as much as you can before you can. The better your spanish, the better your experience will be.

[QUOTE=SouthTravel;2169511]Been on this forum for a few years now, I have horrible Spanish, but somehow I usually get along. This will be my first time in Colombia, I've only ever played in Tijuana and the Philippines. I'm good looking, in my early 20's and could probably game girls down there, but that's not what I'm looking for on this trip. I have a few questions about how things work down there.

1: Should I stay in a hotel? How easy is it to bring escorts over, does anyone have any experience in this? Looking for a hotel under $40 us. Or should I just stay in a hostel or split it up. Also, is it easier to bring chicas to airbnbs vs hotel?(obviously not bringing to a hostel LOL).

2: Are the clubs like Hong Kong in Tijuana, where you can sit and watch someone stripping, buy a girl a drink and get unlimited touching? If you could describe what the clubs are like that would be awesome.

Someone was saying you have to buy a bottle, I like to drink, but not get too messed up unless I'm with group.

3: On photoprepagos are the prices usually the same as they are listed? Would you prefer they come to your hotel or you go to their apartment?

4: Could someone also explain swinger clubs in a little more detail, those sound fun.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KingMongerer;2169322]It seems like there are beautiful women of all types in Colombia but my preference is for white ladies. [/QUOTE]Then why would you be fooling around in Latin America, then? If you want white women, then go to Europe. If you want really white women, got to Eastern Europe. Latin America is full of all kinds of beautiful women of all shades. If you can only appreciate a fraction of their beauty, then you are wasting your time, and their time. In the meantime, stop calling yourself King Monger, when you appear to be completely inexperienced with this.

Routard did an Excellent post on Bogota, go back a read that you will know alot from his post.

[QUOTE=SouthTravel;2169511]Been on this forum for a few years now, I have horrible Spanish, but somehow I usually get along. This will be my first time in Colombia, I've only ever played in Tijuana and the Philippines. I'm good looking, in my early 20's and could probably game girls down there, but that's not what I'm looking for on this trip. I have a few questions about how things work down there.

1: Should I stay in a hotel? How easy is it to bring escorts over, does anyone have any experience in this? Looking for a hotel under $40 us. Or should I just stay in a hostel or split it up. Also, is it easier to bring chicas to airbnbs vs hotel?(obviously not bringing to a hostel LOL).

2: Are the clubs like Hong Kong in Tijuana, where you can sit and watch someone stripping, buy a girl a drink and get unlimited touching? If you could describe what the clubs are like that would be awesome.

Someone was saying you have to buy a bottle, I like to drink, but not get too messed up unless I'm with group.

3: On photoprepagos are the prices usually the same as they are listed? Would you prefer they come to your hotel or you go to their apartment?

4: Could someone also explain swinger clubs in a little more detail, those sound fun.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Uncazadorez;2169768]Do you really think you have to pay to leave a place when you did not get any service or taking a girl out? Wtf, really? That would be considered kidnapping/secuestro...lol.[/QUOTE]Not so funny because there are places like this. I guess it is all in how it is worded or presented though as to why it went over your head. In some casas in Medellin you have to pay 2 or 3 thousand pesos viewing fee after the girls are presented if you do not take one. You can buy a beer and that will cover it. Some places you can just walk out without buying anything or paying the fee and get away with it. Other places they will make a big stink about it.

At Fase 2 in Medellin you pay 10K pesos when you enter. In 4x4 in Rio there is an entrance fee of $20 that you pay WHEN YOU LEAVE. If you take a girl before 5pm then that entrance fee is waived. If you decide not to take a girl then you can not just leave without paying the $20. Same thing. Is it still so ridiculous when it is put this way? Just because you don't have to pay it as soon as you walk in the door does not mean you do not have to pay it at all.

I have used SA in Medellin and one lady in Bucaramanga (she was advertising in MDE). There are tons of girls in the MDE SA section, so I am assuming BOG has alot. Oh yeah I Did use one SA girl AND SHE WAS A SCAM. Maybe I was not clear. I wanted a beautiful lady that spoke English to show me a few places and sex. She spoke English well and we went out to the Montserrat church and then dinner. She wanted to get paid $300 K for that and I said no that price was for guide and sex. So just be clear or do not mix the two, just find a girl to come to your place.

In MDE I had at least 6-8 girls setup and I was looking for students, so my search results were smaller than just MDE. They were not the least expensive, but they were very pretty young chics and seemed innocent, not like hardened prepagos.

[QUOTE=HerryHot;2161823]Does anyone have a feedback on success rate of seeking arrangement in Bogota or Colombia in general?

Thanks, HH.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jbj64;2169829]Oh yeah I Did use one SA girl AND SHE WAS A SCAM. Maybe I was not clear. I wanted a beautiful lady that spoke English to show me a few places and sex. She spoke English well and we went out to the Montserrat church and then dinner. She wanted to get paid $300 K for that and I said no that price was for guide and sex.[/QUOTE]Don't leave us hanging. How did you settle it?

Bogota FR Part I.

This is my FR on my first ever trip to Bogota (and Colombia). Many thanks to members of the forum who provided information through pm. Of course Routard's FR acted as a reference guide for the whole tour.

Special thanks to TravelerBoss for providing contact of driver who helped him. He was indeed great and drove me around the entire trip. The overall cost may be higher than Uber, but he also acted as guide / driver / translator and took me to Santa Fe area which probably I would not have gone alone. My report below is based on my own experience and subject date and time of visits.

Day I:

Arrived at night, it took some time to clear the customers. Stayed at recommended place in Zona T area. By the time I was in room it was mid night. Decided to check out night club near by (Laos if I am not mistaken). It was Thursday night and there were around dozen girls. The drink costed me 45 mil. Girls were decent but not hot. Choose one who was giving me eye contact since I entered the club. Bought her drink. It was getting late for me so asked about joining me for the night. She quoted USD100. The manger came up with a bill of 300 mil including bar fine+drinks. The girl was sweet and tight, but service was not great. Slept after just one pop. She gave me her number. I was kind of ticked of by the push by the manger for drinks / choosing a girl and due to costs so decided to check out other options next day.

Day II.

It was Friday. Went to day clubs in Chapinero area around 11 am. Visited Chicas Milenio Calle 71 #14 A-24. I could not find exact address on google map so went with my driver. There were around 5 girls. One was hot but before I could juggle with my google translator and talk to the house lady she was picked by other customer. I took the other hot one. Was quoted 80 mil after some negotiation for HH. While in the room girl asked 50 mil more for DFK and boob sucking (with CBJ). Overall it was decent experience, but it was kind of quick, she was a true pro. Next moved to Chicas 2000 which is on opposite site. Only few girls were there but still found a good one. Rate card was on the board, took her for HH fat 35 mil. When in the room asked the girl to keep the change of 15 mil. She was happy and said she will provide extras (DFK+boob suck) in return. She was a true GFE. I really enjoyed DFK and she appeared relatively new and she got turned on herself. She did not apply any lube as the girl from other club. Overall it was a great VFM experience. Returned to hotel. In the evening met a girl I found on a dating site for coffee who spoke decent English. Moved back to room, had two rounds. Took her out for dinner at a fancy place which costed around 150 mil and passed her around 200 mil. I found I was missing around 300 mil from my wallet when I checked it next day. I am not sure if I dropped it or it was taken by the girl. We were trying to book Uber for going to dinner and my wallet was on the desk for some time. But I cannot say for sure. Learned my lesson to be careful for subsequent sessions. It was raining hard so decided to call it a day.

Day III:

It was Saturday. Got up fresh after nice dinner and plenty of wine last night. Started around 11 am from the hotel and went to Chicas Milenio. There were around five girls, and the hot one did not seem to be in mood as she did not make a good eye contact. So, took one from last visit. She quoted 80 mil extra for BBBJ. So, went with CBJ, DFK and boob suck for 50 mil extra. Went for some site seeing with the drive after this and returned to hotel for some rest in the afternoon. In the night started around 9 pm. Went to Pussy Club in Chapinero. It was full. As mentioned in earlier post the drink was cheap compared to other places. All hot ones were occupied, and I did not find any one to my liking so left after 1 hour. Next stop was La Forty Nine (La 49) Carrera 13 # 49-77. Reached there around 11 pm. I found the ambiance to be pretty good. More girls than customers. Drink costed around 30 mil. Took one from girl who was Venezuela and made eye contact all along. Bought her drink for 25 mil. We danced on second floor which was empty. She got me hard by her moves. She quoted 300 mil for room and said there was a minimum limit of three drinks before going to the room. Going by prices quoted on the forum, I felt I was being scammed so decided to leave. I felt the club has really nice atmosphere and if you want to take a girl and spend time dancing / talking.

I was already turned on so decided to visit Zona de tolerencia as I had my driver as local guide. Went to Troya but there was lot of police around the area and was told there was some issue going on inside the club. Hence my driver took me to some other club. The streets were very busy. I do not remember the name. Inside I found the atmosphere very live. Beer cost me 22 mil. Girls were hot and the waiter who knew my driver asked me if I want to talk to any girl. Suggested him one girl who I found hot but was not giving me any eye contact. Bought her a redbull for 15 mil. Went to room with her which costed me 80 mil. She allowed light kissing and overall it was a decent experience with a hot girl. Next, went back to Troya as situation there improved. Driver asked 10 mil tip / entry fee for the guard. He took me in and offered me a good seat. The club was full and there were lot of hot girls. The guard introduced me to a hot girl who was slightly chubby but good looking with nice assets and long hair. Bought her a drink for 20 mil and chatted with her for a while using google translator. She quoted 100 mil and promised good service. Took her upstairs and boy that was one heck of a PSE experience. I was really drunk by that point and having five pops in last 24 hours finding it bit hard to finish but she made sure I finish and finish well. She asked for 30 mil tip for the extra effort and had to tip 10 mil to cleaning lady per her suggestion. It was a great experience.

Bogota FR Part II.

Day IV:

On Sunday, saw another girl that I found from dating site. She was 23 years and said she was a college student. Met her at the nearby mall and took her for coffee. She did not speak any English so communicated using translator app. Went for some shopping and bought her gifts around 300 mil. We started kissing while going back to room and once in the room went wild. She was flexible and took good initiative. Had three pops including sex in shower and on the sofa, 69, DFK. Took her out for dinner as I was also hungry. I made a mistake of letting her choose the place which was in Zona T area and was expensive. With my limited search I could not find menus with prices for the restaurants in the area. Dinner plus wine came out to be 200 mil. At the end she asked some money for books so passed her 100 mil for taxi plus books. The tricky part was that she started getting sad and crying at the end of the dinner saying we are not going to see each other again because I was leaving soon. I was bit taken a back but tried to console her. While dropped her to her taxi she was kissing and hugging all the way. I started feeling bit sad myself but finally dropped her off. To cheer up myself visited Troya again. It was totally different atmosphere on Sunday. Took one Venezuelan girl who was again good PSE. Damage was 70 mil for room+drinks and some tip.

Day V:

On Final day rested still afternoon and went for some more site seeing. Decided to visit swinger club recommended by Routard in his great FR. Reached there around 5 pm on Monday. There were around five guys and couple of girls. I was bit nervous as this was my first visit to swinger place. The girls were working girls and there was no couple at that time. They made sure I felt welcomed even though I was only one who did not spoke any Spanish. Had some drinks and then some fun games in pool. After this the action started and one of the girl started stroking me and one other guy. The other girl left as she said she was not working on that day. She asked me to enter her and took the other guy by mouth, midway she took me her other hole as well. After me she started taking others one by one. I left soon after as it was getting late and I need to catch my flight. Girls there told me if I can come back on Wednesday they can introduce me to real swingers. On my way out, I saw a couple getting naked and they went to pool area. On the way to the airport stopped at Chicas 2000 and repeated earlier girl. She gave me her number on last visit and I contacted her on Sunday but she could not come to my hotel. She was texting me earlier in the day and seemed happy to see me again. It was a great GFE and VFM experience again. Still had some more time as flight got delayed so visited Troya. Found a hot girl as soon as I entered, she came over and started kissing lightly. Proceeded to room, she did a BBBJ and was a great PSE. Damage was 70 mil + 50 mil in tips for her and cleaning lady.

Overall it was a great experience in Bogota. I feel you can get both GFE and PSE at reasonable price here. I realized I may have overpaid on few occasions, but it was still worth it. I should have found out Bogota earlier. Well better be late than never I guess.

Thank you again to all seniors for there help with my trip.

Hey all,

Just a quick question.

I've seen places like Belo Horizonte, Brazil have notorious spots full of hotels that are filled with independent girls with ridiculously low prices, even by USD conversion standards. Each hotel cluster, a new group of girls. All quick, dirt cheap fixes. I'm wondering, are there any places in Bogota (or other parts of Colombia) like that?

Curious if it would be easy to ask for just BBBJ at the casas or strip clubs? Any experience and how you would say it in Spanish? My Spanish is poor and have wanted to ask in the past.

Use google translator: oral without condom, they will understand. Per my experience it should be available in most joints with additional charges. Ultimately it depends on comfort level of the girls, some of the girls just won't do it.

[QUOTE=AlhanMan;2171268]Curious if it would be easy to ask for just BBBJ at the casas or strip clubs? Any experience and how you would say it in Spanish? My Spanish is poor and have wanted to ask in the past.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AlhanMan;2171268]Curious if it would be easy to ask for just BBBJ at the casas or strip clubs? Any experience and how you would say it in Spanish? My Spanish is poor and have wanted to ask in the past.[/QUOTE]Yo quiero oral naturale. Esta bien o no?

That's how I asked and worked everytime.

You have to ask wherever you are. Once you decide on her make sure to ask all the explicit things before you pay.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2169838]Don't leave us hanging. How did you settle it?[/QUOTE]I ended up giving her 200 K in the middle of the restaurant, she was a little embarrassed but I was pissed that there was not going to be sex and she still wanted the full 300.

Lesson kinda learned don't mix the 2.

Thanks, Herry Hot, for your informative and epic field reports. Very helpful for my trip to Bogota next month. I assume, though, that your prices are in thousands instead of million COP?

Thanks mate. Yes prices are in thousand. Honestly, it took me some time to get hold of all types of bills and way prices are said / quoted.

[QUOTE=RTheMan;2171552]Thanks, Herry Hot, for your informative and epic field reports. Very helpful for my trip to Bogota next month. I assume, though, that your prices are in thousands instead of million COP?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HerryHot;2170381]Bogota FR Part II.[/QUOTE]Great reports, thanks for sharing. Not to criticise you or how you choose to spend your money, you earned it, you spend it however you want, but I would just point out for newbies that my experince in Bogota, even some of the same clubs, was that prices could be a lot cheaper.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2171450]Yo quiero oral naturale. Esta bien o no?

That's how I asked and worked everytime.

You have to ask wherever you are. Once you decide on her make sure to ask all the explicit things before you pay.[/QUOTE]I often say "puedes chupar sin condon?" and I than smile and joke around and flirt a bit always trying to build a connection. Trying to gauge chemistry.

1 Important Thing- Girls do Lie on occasion and if they totally dis you in the room the best thing to do is walk away. Not worth getting stupid.

Around 5 in the afternoon I was walking around. I stopped on a corner to look for a taxi as I was just not into hooking up. There was an adorable girl standing near the entrance to an open store type place and I thought she was with a group of young kids. She was dressed like a normal person and I realized that she was not with the group. So I bought a candy bar, walked up and gave it to her. She said yes she was working and we talked and the price was 35,000 pesos! Including the room! So of course I got in the mood. She was new in Bogota from Caracus. I was her first gringo so of course she thought I was from another planet. Left with her phone number. The more you monger the more you want Colombia.

[QUOTE=HerryHot;2170380]She quoted USD100. The manger came up with a bill of 300 mil including bar fine+drinks. The girl was sweet and tight, but service was not great.[/QUOTE]Who talks in dollars in Colombia? This should have been a sign to cut and runner.

[QUOTE=Herry Hot;2170380]Took her out for dinner at a fancy place which costed around 150 mil and passed her around 200 mil. I found I was missing around 300 mil from my wallet when I checked it next day. I am not sure if I dropped it or it was taken by the girl. [/QUOTE]When you are back home do you ever drop $100 from your wallet? If no, then the girl took it.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2172437]Who talks in dollars in Colombia? This should have been a sign to cut and runner.

When you are back home do you ever drop $100 from your wallet? If no, then the girl took it.[/QUOTE]Were you there, Mr. E? If not, how would you know who took it?

That's what I'm Tawkin'about!

This is the room for California Whiskeria -- BTW that's Estephenia.

Hey guys,

Has any one have FB contacts of the girls in Bogota to share?

Thanks in advance.

I know every has their favorite place but being the first time in either I thought I would get your thoughts. I'm an old monger (70) and have been all thru SEA, Phil, and DR (all spots) so I thought I would try some other places, been to Cartagena and was OK and want some input on where an old fart can go and get some boom boom. Once a day is fine for me all though I do like a little desert some times, and a tree some is fun to. So step right up and give me some of your wise knowledge. Planing on going for 10 days (July 11 thru 21st). Maybe run into some members and toss down a few.

[QUOTE=Drifter47;2172981]I know every has their favorite place but being the first time in either I thought I would get your thoughts. I'm an old monger (70) and have been all thru SEA, Phil, and DR (all spots) so I thought I would try some other places, been to Cartagena and was OK and want some input on where an old fart can go and get some boom boom. Once a day is fine for me all though I do like a little desert some times, and a tree some is fun to. So step right up and give me some of your wise knowledge. Planing on going for 10 days (July 11 thru 21st). Maybe run into some members and toss down a few.[/QUOTE]For Quantity and Quality Bogota. Probably the most girls in South America.

[QUOTE=Drifter47;2172981]So step right up and give me some of your wise knowledge. Planing on going for 10 days (July 11 thru 21st).[/QUOTE]If you have 10 days why not go to both?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2173148]If you have 10 days why not go to both?[/QUOTE]Tried that on one 10 day trip to SEA. Went to Thailand, Viet Nam and Cambodia. Never had the time to get to know the Ladies, One or the other to establish a little connection with the woman. I do like to have fun.

OK, I might get board with all 10 days in Bogota and fly to Medellin for a few days. What is the fares and time to get there and where to stay for a few days.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2173647]Some photos from the past week. Get here before you die![/QUOTE]Don't use them all up, be there July 10 thru 21st. Save a little for us old guys.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2173015]For Quantity and Quality Bogota. Probably the most girls in South America.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I like a lot of girls.

[QUOTE=Drifter47;2173690]OK, I might get board with all 10 days in Bogota and fly to Medellin for a few days. What is the fares and time to get there and where to stay for a few days.[/QUOTE]Bogota to Medellin is an hour flight, maybe a little less. Round trip can be found for $200 or under often. Regardless, to get back out of Colombia youll probably end up flying out of Bogota.

The problem with the big Medellin airport is that it is 30+ minutes outside of the city. With traffic it takes much longer. However, Satena air flies to Olaya Herrera airport, which is smack dab in the middle of Medellin. Not always easy to find a flight though.

Medellin is still worth the visit, but I prefer Bogota.

[QUOTE=HectorPF;2174145]Bogota to Medellin is an hour flight, maybe a little less. Round trip can be found for $200 or under often. Regardless, to get back out of Colombia youll probably end up flying out of Bogota.

The problem with the big Medellin airport is that it is 30+ minutes outside of the city. With traffic it takes much longer. However, Satena air flies to Olaya Herrera airport, which is smack dab in the middle of Medellin. Not always easy to find a flight though.

Medellin is still worth the visit, but I prefer Bogota.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the info. Looks like I will probably stay in Bogota. Any hotel suggestions near action?

[QUOTE=HectorPF;2174145]Bogota to Medellin is an hour flight, maybe a little less. Round trip can be found for $200 or under often. Regardless, to get back out of Colombia youll probably end up flying out of Bogota.

The problem with the big Medellin airport is that it is 30+ minutes outside of the city. With traffic it takes much longer. However, Satena air flies to Olaya Herrera airport, which is smack dab in the middle of Medellin. Not always easy to find a flight though.

Medellin is still worth the visit, but I prefer Bogota.[/QUOTE]Thanks found thread, search, search, search.

[QUOTE=Drifter47;2174363]Thank you for the info. Looks like I will probably stay in Bogota. Any hotel suggestions near action?[/QUOTE]A lot of guy stay at Ibis Museo (girl friendly) that is 10 minutes walk from Santa Fe. Also Tequendama (More expensive- Not girl friendly).

Also Hotel Dann Avineda 19. Many great AirBnB in the area too.

Santa fe was rocking last night.

Being the day before a public holiday it was as busy as a Friday.

There were over 100 girls in the street.

I spent most of my time in Azules, next door to Atunes. Lots of girls giving lap dances completely nude and allowing touching everywhere at only COP10.000.

Around 20 girls, mostly in the 20-30 age range. All slim and hot. All fair skinned, so not the place to go if you like darker skinned ladies.

I was quoted COP40.000 for a short time.

If there is anyone in Bogota who would be able to pay a subscription for me I will gladly pay in you $ or peso equivalent and offer a tour of Santa fe.

Regards and good hunting.

[QUOTE=Drifter47;2174363]Thank you for the info. Looks like I will probably stay in Bogota. Any hotel suggestions near action?[/QUOTE]I'm planning on being in Medellin starting July 11. I will be staying in Laureles. I can say I have been to Medellin and Bogota. I prefer Medellin much more. I have also been to SEA and other places. MDE is my favorite of all.

[QUOTE=Drifter47;2174363]Thank you for the info. Looks like I will probably stay in Bogota. Any hotel suggestions near action?[/QUOTE]You may want to check flight prices yourself. I've seen MDE to BOG for as low as $25 each way. The taxi ride from and to MDE airport can be a pain and will add a chunk to the cost.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2174430]A lot of guy stay at Ibis Museo (girl friendly) that is 10 minutes walk from Santa Fe. Also Tequendama (More expensive- Not girl friendly).

Also Hotel Dann Avineda 19. Many great AirBnB in the area too.[/QUOTE]Went with an apartment, girl friendly just not over nights (for me waking up next to chicas are a waste of time. I try to book escorts for a least 2 hours.

[URL]http://www.viaggio.com.co/.[/URL] for apartments. Less than 5 min ride to action.

[QUOTE=Drifter47;2174530]Went with an apartment, girl friendly just not over nights (for me waking up next to chicas are a waste of time. I try to book escorts for a least 2 hours.

[URL]http://www.viaggio.com.co/.[/URL] for apartments. Less than 5 min ride to action.[/QUOTE]Message me-- I know some nice apartments in the area.

Hi Scott.

I know you don't have a subscription.

How long you in Bogota? I want to try it as I'm an MDE loyalist LOL. But I would highly prefer a wingman. Let me know. Thanks. I could leave today. Looking at hotels.

[QUOTE=ScottInBogota;2174459]Santa fe was rocking last night.

Being the day before a public holiday it was as busy as a Friday.

There were over 100 girls in the street.

I spent most of my time in Azules, next door to Atunes. Lots of girls giving lap dances completely nude and allowing touching everywhere at only COP10.000.

Around 20 girls, mostly in the 20-30 age range. All slim and hot. All fair skinned, so not the place to go if you like darker skinned ladies.

I was quoted COP40.000 for a short time.

If there is anyone in Bogota who would be able to pay a subscription for me I will gladly pay in you $ or peso equivalent and offer a tour of Santa fe.

Regards and good hunting.[/QUOTE].

I've been to both Medellin and Cartagena and loved both experiences. I've got to both alone and never felt like I wasn't safe (I don't dress flashy and can blend in as I have south american looks). I was wondering if Santa Fe is dangerous for a solo traveler at night. And if so. Is 8 pm - 11 pm safer than 2 am - 4 am? Does it not matter? Seems people like to fear monger (which gets in the way of the better kind of mongering LOL). Thankful for any counsel from the wise ones.

[QUOTE=ThadMax;2175587]I've been to both Medellin and Cartagena and loved both experiences. I've got to both alone and never felt like I wasn't safe (I don't dress flashy and can blend in as I have south american looks). I was wondering if Santa Fe is dangerous for a solo traveler at night. And if so. Is 8 pm - 11 pm safer than 2 am - 4 am? Does it not matter? Seems people like to fear monger (which gets in the way of the better kind of mongering LOL). Thankful for any counsel from the wise ones.[/QUOTE]I have lived in Bogota for 7.5 yrs been to SF hundreds of times. It is safe as long as you don't act stupid. The best time to go is 8-12 pm Tue-Sat --I would not go there 2-4 am probably not as safe.

The club is not Azules but Venus.

I also visited night club Texas yesterday where the offer was form 30.000.

I am a 20+ years resident in Bogota and love Santa Fe more than anywhere else.

Counted 130 street girls yesterday.

Its been a couple of years. Spent most of my time in Cali, Manaus and Kingstown. Lets swap stories.

When in Bog I stay at the Santa Fe hotel near Atunes. I always have fun in Bog.

I always dress casual - pants & tee shirt and roam all over. Bottom feeding you know.

This time I'm going to learn the transit system.

Question: Is there any trick to shorten the altitude adjustment period. Pills etc?

Also, where is the best place to change $ to pesos on Bogotá?

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2175811]I have lived in Bogota for 7.5 yrs been to SF hundreds of times. It is safe as long as you don't act stupid. The best time to go is 8-12 pm Tue-Sat --I would not go there 2-4 am probably not as safe.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the input and the photo. I've done Medellin and ready to do Bogota before the year is over. But, for the sake of simplicity, do you recommend grabbing a room there in Santa Fe for the day, or just take a cab there? Because I don't live there I might have the urge for more than one session. For the first few days before the being an old man sets in.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2176691]Thanks for the input and the photo. I've done Medellin and ready to do Bogota before the year is over. But, for the sake of simplicity, do you recommend grabbing a room there in Santa Fe for the day, or just take a cab there? Because I don't live there I might have the urge for more than one session. For the first few days before the being an old man sets in.[/QUOTE]You can get a room, there are many cheap hotels outside and inside the red-light area. Also Great AirBnBs in Teusaquillo.

[QUOTE=BottomFeeder;2176685]Its been a couple of years. Spent most of my time in Cali, Manaus and Kingstown. Lets swap stories.

When in Bog I stay at the Santa Fe hotel near Atunes. I always have fun in Bog.

I always dress casual - pants & tee shirt and roam all over. Bottom feeding you know.

This time I'm going to learn the transit system.

Question: Is there any trick to shorten the altitude adjustment period. Pills etc?

Also, where is the best place to change $ to pesos on Bogot?[/QUOTE]Even 25 years ago on my first visit to Bogota and then numerous stays in Bogota from 2008 to 2012 it ALWAYS takes my body 5 days to get adjusted to the altitude. I recall trying different over the counter pills but resorted to taking easy, trying to get enough rest and daily aspirins is the best I could do then wait 5 days.

Nowadays, since 2012 I spend my time in medellin and very seldom need to travel to Bogota.

Your style may not be for everyone but like they say whatever floats your boat. Have fun!

TTM.

1. How does mongering in Colombia differ to the DR where it is quite open and point click?

2. What options do I have if I don't like nightclubs or partying and staying up until the early hours of the morning?

3. Casa, strip clubs, facebook or dating websites? Which is best? I know a little Spanish and have lessons weekly so I'm always improving.

4. Incall or outcall? I like relaxing in my own place and prefer to get the girls back to mine

This is an article originally written in spanish in [URL=http://pasionprepagos.com/donde-contratar-prepagos-en-bogota]our blog[/URL], figured you guys at Internationalsexguide would benefit from this so here it is, translated just for you.

Where to start if you want to search for prepagos in Bogota?

[B]Internet communities[/B]

It's always benefitial to go on reading forums and knowing other people experiencies, from recommendations to saving warnings.

- [URL=http://foroprepagoscolombia.com/viewforum.php?f=1]Foroprepagoscolombia.com[/URL].

- [URL=http://doncolombia.com/foro/f-prepagos-en-bogota]Doncolombia.com[/URL].

[B]Independent escorts Bogota[/B]

- [URL=http://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/bogota]PasionPrepagos.com[/URL].

- [URL=https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/bogota]Photoprepagos.com[/URL].

- [URL=https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/bogota/]Mileroticos.com.co[/URL].

[B]Most famous brothels[/B]

- [B]Flirt Hotel[/B] Probably the most exclusive brothel in Colombia, with a nice catalog of VIP escorts for you to choose. Address: Carrera Web: [URL]http://www.flirtbogota.co[/URL].

- [B]La 49[/B] Known as "the forty nine" one of the classic brothels. Address: Carrera 13.

- [B]Club Internacional La Piscina (The Pool)[/B] Prestigious adult entretainment club, with a huge pool and luxury women. Address: Carrera 15.

- [B]El Castillo (The Castle).[/B] Address: Calle 23.

- [B]Pussy House[/B] Address: Calle 61.

Between 85 and 86 street, and between 14 and 15 street, you'll find multiple brothels and adult night clubs for every kind of taste.

For more information on brothels you can check the following listings:

- [URL=https://www.ciudadguru.com.co/bogota/busqueda/tabernas-y-whiskerias]Ciudad Guru[/URL].

- [URL=http://www.revistadonjuan.com/historias/mapa-de-putas-en-bogota+articulo+8700720]Mapa de Putas en Bogot Informe de Revista Don Juan, 2010[/URL].

[B]Escort agencies Bogota[/B]

- [B]La Celestina[/B] - Web: [URL]https://lacelestina.co[/URL].

- [B]Agencia Latin Beauty[/B] - Web: [URL]http://latin-beauty.com[/URL].

- [B]Escorts Bogot[/B] Tel: De manana (7 am a 12 pm) De tarde y noche (12 pm a 2 am)- Web: [URL]https://escortsbogota.com.co[/URL].

- [B]Eros Premium[/B] - Web: [URL]https://www.erospremium.co[/URL].

- [B]Prepagos Bogot[/B] - Web: [URL]http://www.chicasprepagosbogota.co/[/URL].

- [B]Rosa Club[/B] - Web: [URL]http://rosaclub.co[/URL].

- [B]Pasin de Diosas[/B] - Web: [URL]http://www.pasiondediosas.com[/URL].

- [B]Divas Club[/B] - Web: [URL]http://divasclub.co/[/URL].

- [B]Divinas VIP[/B] - Web: [URL]http://divinasvip.escortbook.com[/URL].

- [B]Deseos Escort[/B] - Web: [URL]http://deseosescorts.com[/URL].

Hope you find it useful if you're ever in Bogota!

See you guys around.

[QUOTE=PasionUruguay;2177654]- [B]Club Internacional La Piscina (The Pool)[/B] Prestigious adult entretainment club, with a huge pool and luxury women. Address: Carrera 15.[/QUOTE]Hahahaha. After seeing this entry I know this article/post is a joke. The words they use to try to justify the price are hilarious.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2177729]Hahahaha. After seeing this entry I know this article/post is a joke. The words they use to try to justify the price are hilarious.[/QUOTE]Glad to have made you laugh hah. Although, I'm not here try to justify the price of any of these places. The list below is about "most famous brothels" not a personal recommendations list.

I'm guessing "la piscina" isn't as luxurious as they promote it, and you have some experience with the issue. So I'd love to read about it if you care to share, I haven't been there myself.

Best.

Guys,

Any idea if there are any places in Bogota to get hand tailored men's clothing for reasonable price and good quality.

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=PasionUruguay;2177745]Glad to have made you laugh hah. Although, I'm not here try to justify the price of any of these places. The list below is about "most famous brothels" not a personal recommendations list.

I'm guessing "la piscina" isn't as luxurious as they promote it, and you have some experience with the issue. So I'd love to read about it if you care to share, I haven't been there myself.

Best.[/QUOTE]If you do a search you can find all the references to the place. It is worse than I thought. A couple of months ago BM Tacoma101 posted a rate of 450K [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?580-Bogota-Reports&p=2154673&viewfull=1#post2154673[/URL].

Rereading my report from 2 and a half years ago the chick started at 150K but quickly accepted 100K. [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?580-Bogota-Reports&p=1788785&viewfull=1#post1788785[/URL].

[QUOTE=BottomFeeder;2176685] Also, where is the best place to change $ to pesos on Bogota? [/QUOTE]Use ATM machines! Best exchange rates and you don't have to worry about whether you're getting fake bills or getting a loss on the exchange rate. Stick to the larger bank ATMs like BanColombia, BancoBogota, CitiBank, BBVA, etc. Davivienda might also work. Otherwise, you can always find a Western Union to change money. Not sure how local change houses compare with WU, but at least you know its legit and safe. I also recently started sending myself a bit of money via WU. I figured this is a good backup in case anything goes sideways and I get robbed or run out of money. I think you can only send yourself under $500. But yeah, that's another option. Exchange rate at WU seems pretty close to market rate. You can always check it online by going through most of the steps to send yourself money.

[QUOTE=BigDude1;2177821]Guys,

Any idea if there are any places in Bogota to get hand tailored men's clothing for reasonable price and good quality.

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Many Tailors downtown around 18th and 9th.

Fella's, visited this place twice [URL]http://divasprepago.com/[/URL] easy to find and had 5 girls on both times I visited, all girls were very lickable. Price quoted was 150 k for the basic full service and massage (1 hour) with extras on top to lick down under was 50 k more. I used Uber from my hotel and the establishment has wifi so I Uber'd back to my place, without using the shifty cabs.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2177070]Even 25 years ago on my first visit to Bogota and then numerous stays in Bogota from 2008 to 2012 it ALWAYS takes my body 5 days to get adjusted to the altitude. I recall trying different over the counter pills but resorted to taking easy, trying to get enough rest and daily aspirins is the best I could do then wait 5 days.

TTM.[/QUOTE]Oh shit. I had forgotten that altitude can be a problem for some visitors to Bogota. I doubt I would be in Bogota for five days before moving on, so a period of adjustment is not in the cards. Is adjusting to altitude more of an individual problem or a typical problem for most visitors? I've heard that Mate de Coca was a traditional remedy, and was curious if that actually helped.

Mind you, I visit Taos, NM on an annual basis to visit family. Taos is right at 7000 feet and I never noticed any problems there except a little shortness of breath walking upstairs to the guest bedroom. There is an oxygen lounge near where I stay and apparently some visitors need it there. But, I've never noticed any sickness at 7000 feet so I wonder if Bogota at 8600 is going to be a problem.

Any insights would be welcome. Also curious if a few days in Medellin at nearly 5000 feet would be a helpful before moving on to Bogota.

I am no expert. I think each person has there own experience or perhaps none at all. So best to not drink much and moderate physical activity and that could solve any problems.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2180036]Oh shit. I had forgotten that altitude can be a problem for some visitors to Bogota. I doubt I would be in Bogota for five days before moving on, so a period of adjustment is not in the cards. Is adjusting to altitude more of an individual problem or a typical problem for most visitors? I've heard that Mate de Coca was a traditional remedy, and was curious if that actually helped.

Mind you, I visit Taos, NM on an annual basis to visit family. Taos is right at 7000 feet and I never noticed any problems there except a little shortness of breath walking upstairs to the guest bedroom. There is an oxygen lounge near where I stay and apparently some visitors need it there. But, I've never noticed any sickness at 7000 feet so I wonder if Bogota at 8600 is going to be a problem.

Any insights would be welcome. Also curious if a few days in Medellin at nearly 5000 feet would be a helpful before moving on to Bogota.[/QUOTE]I spent 5 nights there and came from Florida which is basically like living in water. Ha! I had a terrible headache and no appetite which are normal symptoms of moderate / mild altitude sickness my entire stay. I totally forgot when I arrived about the altitude but then grabbed some ibuprofen which definitely helped. I was never right the entire time and think I was just starting to adjust the day I left. It didn't help probably since I did walk too much my first few days since that is what you do when visiting a new place and soaking it all in. And I was sweating like crazy since with my jacket and jeans on although it was like 65 degrees. The first night I arrived I was all excited to head out but my body just couldn't function and with the headache I crashed right to sleep.

So I did some reading up for a next visit and from what I found everybody is just different, but if you've been in higher altitudes before and didn't get any symptoms you should maybe make out better as you're just one of the lucky ones or your body is used to living in a higher altitude. I'm a bit concerned of returning for that reason and instead planning a Cartagena visit next time.

But, although I felt that terrible and still drank my alcohol and beers while staying up to 3 am every night, I managed to go out every night and call in for fun with the escorts although some of it's a bit fuzzy and I ended up having to sleep more than I would have liked! If you don't drink there are prescription drugs to help I've read or just do continuous daily dosing of ibuprofen to help with the symptoms. Sounds like you'll be fine though if have done the 7000 feet thing already and managed, but it is another 1600 feet and maybe that's your bodies breaking point. Incremental steps up to higher altitude is the best way to adjust. Or just say that and use it as an excuse to visit Medellin.

Have fun if that helps you at all.

[QUOTE=PirateMorgan;2180259]I am no expert. I think each person has there own experience or perhaps none at all. So best to not drink much and moderate physical activity and that could solve any problems.[/QUOTE]Totally! Everyone is different.

Just checked the altitudes I've been to. It's kinda fun. From NYC, altitude what? Zero?

Landed in Cusco (11,152) and thought I'd die within the next few minutes. My buddy (heart problems and older than me, in his mid-50's back then) couldn't grasp what I was talking about.

Boarded the train to Machu Picchu. Disemabarked in Aguas Calientes (6,693). Totally fine.

Next morning went up to Machu Picchu (7,972). Felt the "squeeze" somewhat, tiredness when climbing, but nothing major.

Stayed for a couple of days in Ollyantaymbo (9,160). Surprisingly, didn't feel a thing.

Rode a car to Pisak market (9,751). Quite a squeeze, but no headache.

Finally went back to Cusco for a couple of days. Major squeeze, major headaches on the day 1. Was actually scared to go to bed that night because it felt like I might fail to breathe deep enough. Next morning woke up fresh and ready. The headacke's gone, the squeeze is gone, lots of energy.

And all this time, my buddy is, like, stop fucking around. Never even felt it one bit. .

So, I don't know. I'll be in Bogota next month. Will find out.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2180488]Landed in Cusco (11,152) and thought I'd die within the next few minutes.[/QUOTE]Cusco is a mf. As soon as the plane landed I felt it. And I thought I was going to die walking up the jetway. I have asthma though. Never any problems in Bogota. Used to be hard walking to immigration then after that fine. These days not even a problem there.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2180506]Cusco is a mf.[/QUOTE]You don't say! We only had 2 nights in Cusco. First night, buddy wants some action while I'm more interested in staying alive. And he hates hunting alone. There was some major bitching that night.

Sorry to interrupt. As much as I want to visit Macchu Piccu one day, isn't this the Bogota forum? Seems like the topic has veered from altitude sickness in Bogota to Cusco. Just saying.

Fellas,

I'll be visiting from May 17-23 if anyone wants to hang out!

Just got to my hotel, not sure their policy on girls but just coming from the airport I'm just amazed by all the ass around here. Even the female hotel security guard has one. Might not be able to wait till tomorrow to go out haha. But what are everyone favorite hang out spots? Also I'm looking for another hotel under $45, that allows chicas and if you could let me know of the fee (if there is one) for them to visit. Looking for a place to sit back, have a drink, watch some chicas, and bang them when I'm ready.

[QUOTE=SouthTravel;2181459]Just got to my hotel, not sure their policy on girls but just coming from the airport I'm just amazed by all the ass around here. Even the female hotel security guard has one. Might not be able to wait till tomorrow to go out haha. But what are everyone favorite hang out spots? Also I'm looking for another hotel under $45, that allows chicas and if you could let me know of the fee (if there is one) for them to visit. Looking for a place to sit back, have a drink, watch some chicas, and bang them when I'm ready.[/QUOTE]If you're on a budget hit up the MPs during the day or go to Pussy House at night.

If you don't mind spending a little more go to Lidos or Lalos at night for top notch talent but it is a bit pricey.

Of course you can't go wrong with Santa Fe for the cheapest action.

[QUOTE=SouthTravel;2181459]Just got to my hotel, not sure their policy on girls but just coming from the airport I'm just amazed by all the ass around here. Even the female hotel security guard has one. Might not be able to wait till tomorrow to go out haha. But what are everyone favorite hang out spots? Also I'm looking for another hotel under $45, that allows chicas and if you could let me know of the fee (if there is one) for them to visit. Looking for a place to sit back, have a drink, watch some chicas, and bang them when I'm ready.[/QUOTE]Ibus Museo- No extra charge- Santa Fe clubs- Attunes during the day and Paisa, Fiebre, Troya, La Casona, Venus and Many more at night. You cannot beat SF for quality and quantity.

Thanks Woodman, I just checked in there today luckily haha. Started walking toward Santa Fe and chickened out. I'm planning on going there tomorrow afternoon, and going to pussy house tonight (or maybe SF). Not sure why I'm so nervous this trip, I think I just needed to get acclimated, going to do some backpacking this next week and then come back for fun. If I order an escort to my Ibis, how does that work, do I meet her in the lobby and just take her up, or does she have to fill out paperwork or anything? Also if you have info about your tours I'm interested.

These reports seem to take awhile to go through, but I went to Santa Fe last night and had a mixed experience. Went to Troya first, used Uber which is very cheap.

Troya: My waiter totally ripped me off when I was buying beer, the first one I paid with a 50 mil note and didn't check the change well enough, the second one I thought he said 20 mil, so I paid and then went up to the bar because I realized I was getting ripped off. Bar tend shook his head in disgust and said 6 mil! Bartender was very nice. Girls, many were 6's or 7's. Maybe two or three 8's. I didn't really understand how it all worked. So I left after watching for awhile and went to Venus.

Street: plenty of chicas of all types. Only place in Bogota that I've been harrased by people so far, the men were very pushy and grabby. It really annoys me if a guy touches me when I'm walking.

Venus: Walk in, go straight to the bar, a waiter follows me there and asks if I want a beer. He speaks English. So I go sit down, and he brings me a beer, 6 mil and you pay when you leave. This waiter was incredible! His name is Sergio and was very very helpful. The girls in Troya: lots of 5's and 6's a couple 7's. Girls were fairly flat chested or chubby. I like big tits and ass. Finally saw a girl I liked, had my waiter grab her. Waiter said 15 k for a dance. I also bought her a beer (that I knocked over and spilled on her jeans, woops.) 15 mil for a dance, she got completely naked during it, all the touching you want, offered me a hit of coke (I don't usually do drugs though). Lasted about 5 minutes. Not bad for 5 bucks. Ask her how much for sex, she says 70. I tell my waiter, pay my tab, and the three of us head up stairs. She wants another 7 mil for the room. My waiter starts arguing with her and says no, she pays for room and goes in, my waiter pulls me aside and says Do Not Give Her More Money! I go in room and she asks for more. So I say if its bien 7 mil propina. It was very bien! I know the going rate is 60/20, but she was the best looking girl in the club (in my opinion) sex was great, only last 10 minutes, gave her the tip. My waiter was waiting outside, and asked me if anything went wrong. Said no, and went and had another beer before leaving.

Waiter gave me the WiFi, added on WA, and said uber was the best to get home. My cards got declined on uber, (though I used earlier) so I said I needed a cab. He took me outside and found a cab, 10 mil to ibis. (a uber is aprox 5-6 mil) cab driver was nice, and that brings my first night to a wrap.

Went about 10, left about 1.

Stuff I don't quite understand, how you get a girls to sit with you at Troya, I assume you just have to pay for drinks. How much is a dance at Troya? Ill be headed to SF this afternoon and then again tonight I think. How much is a bottle?

If anyone needs help, I will be in Bogota until July 10. I speak English very fluently and Spanish as well. I can take dollars or pesos. I can show you around the Santa Fe clubs and the other clubs such as Pussy house and La 49 and the clubs in the pricey north. Safe mongering!

Hey fellas,

I'll be in Bogota on the 25th and leave to Medellin on the 29th. I am traveling solo, if you are around let me know. 40 year old male, still new to the hobby. My mother tongue is Spanish.

Thanks to all for your reports.

[QUOTE=BlueCar;2182129]If anyone needs help, I will be in Bogota until July 10. I speak English very fluently and Spanish as well. I can take dollars or pesos. I can show you around the Santa Fe clubs and the other clubs such as Pussy house and La 49 and the clubs in the pricey north. Safe mongering![/QUOTE]You don't have private message I tried reaching out I am here currently.

[QUOTE=SouthTravel;2181977]how you get a girls to sit with you at Troya, I assume you just have to pay for drinks. How much is a dance at Troya? Ill be headed to SF this afternoon and then again tonight I think. How much is a bottle?[/QUOTE]It seems the lap dances at Troya went up. Last year it was 20 K pesos. I was told it is now 30 K pesos. It seems not all girls do lap dances. Beer prices went up also. Club Colombia is now 7 K. Poker is probably 6 K.

I usually buy my beers at the bar. I try to avoid the waiters at these types of bars (because I look/sound like a tourist).

The waiter said something about having to buy a bottle, if you want the girl to sit with you. I have very limited Spanish abilities. With a bottle, I observed the girls giving the guys a naked dance, and then sitting with them. Didn't ask how much the bottle was. I would ask the bartenders for the prices. They probably have menus.

Also observed a girl sitting with a guy after he bought her a corona. She just sat there, no naked dancing. I would look at the menus for prices.

Many bars are closed on Sundays. Venus was closed. It seemed Troya was the most crowded club at Carrera 16A on this past Sunday.

At Troya, I was charged 70 K pesos for short time (maybe 20 minutes). Wondering if that is the standard price. No extra for room/condom. The few I asked all said no to BBBJ. Had to offer tip; some wouldn't take it. Talent was decent on Sunday. IMO, GFE at Troya is when the girls waits until the knock on the door. Bad GFE is when the girl says, "done", before the knock.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2183259]The waiter said something about having to buy a bottle, if you want the girl to sit with you. I have very limited Spanish abilities. With a bottle, I observed the girls giving the guys a naked dance, and then sitting with them. Didn't ask how much the bottle was. I would ask the bartenders for the prices. They probably have menus.

Also observed a girl sitting with a guy after he bought her a corona. She just sat there, no naked dancing. I would look at the menus for prices.

Many bars are closed on Sundays. Venus was closed. It seemed Troya was the most crowded club at Carrera 16A on this past Sunday.

At Troya, I was charged 70 K pesos for short time (maybe 20 minutes). Wondering if that is the standard price. No extra for room/condom. The few I asked all said no to BBBJ. Had to offer tip; some wouldn't take it. Talent was decent on Sunday. IMO, GFE at Troya is when the girls waits until the knock on the door. Bad GFE is when the girl says, "done", before the knock.[/QUOTE]Waiters are lying, to get a girl to sit with you you just talk to them and not necessarily buy a drink.

Usual session price is 60 k. BBBJ is extra if available. Although I have Hooker GFs where it's included- It's all negotiation- Like life.

Have walked by Loutron a couple of times lately. In the daytime. Thinking that I should pay a visit. But, the place does not look that nice, is it recommendable?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Pete6;2183727]Have walked by Loutron a couple of times lately. In the daytime. Thinking that I should pay a visit. But, the place does not look that nice, is it recommendable?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I went in the evening it was cold up there. Beds are small. Girls are hot but there is more value at new life or energy IMO.

[QUOTE=Pete6;2183727]Have walked by Loutron a couple of times lately. In the daytime. Thinking that I should pay a visit. But, the place does not look that nice, is it recommendable?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure if it was Loutron you walked by. Loutron is a bit out of the way and up a winding, private road on the way out to Rio Negro airport.

[QUOTE=Pete6;2183727]Have walked by Loutron a couple of times lately. In the daytime. Thinking that I should pay a visit. But, the place does not look that nice, is it recommendable?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Disregard my last posts. I was thinking of the Loutron in Medellin!

Hi all,

Just a quick question. I got different quotes from [URL]Photoprepago.com[/URL] and they all told me I can come as many times as I want within a hour if I decide to pay for the hour. Is it true? Will the girl stay with you if you pop up early?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2183933]Disregard my last posts. I was thinking of the Loutron in Medellin![/QUOTE]No worries, thanks though.

[QUOTE=BeniBlanco;2183785]I went in the evening it was cold up there. Beds are small. Girls are hot but there is more value at new life or energy IMO.[/QUOTE]Thanks, appreciate it. Could not really find the other places.

[QUOTE=AsianHero;2184152]Hi all,

Just a quick question. I got different quotes from [URL]Photoprepago.com[/URL] and they all told me I can come as many times as I want within a hour if I decide to pay for the hour. Is it true? Will the girl stay with you if you pop up early?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I highly doubt that. People lie, especially hookers.

This was a super cute Colombiana- in Calima Mall- Super cute with a big ass!

I want sum a that!

Here's the video! [URL]https://youtu.be/APCCctoe5b0[/URL].

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2184185]I highly doubt that. People lie, especially hookers.[/QUOTE]I can not believe what I am reading. Finally a monger that has his head on straight.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2184202]I can not believe what I am reading. Finally a monger that has his head on straight.[/QUOTE]Thank you for letting me know. Well, that is what happened in southeast part of China and Japan a couple of years ago. There were unlimited shot service but not anymore.

[QUOTE=Pete6;2184183]Thanks, appreciate it. Could not really find the other places.[/QUOTE]I land in Bogota tomorrow. Shoot me a message if you still around.

How did you film your own hand on her ass?

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2184196]This was a super cute Colombiana- in Calima Mall- Super cute with a big ass!

I want sum a that!

Here's the video! [URL]https://youtu.be/APCCctoe5b0[/URL].[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2184202]I can not believe what I am reading. Finally a monger that has his head on straight.[/QUOTE]Actually my reply about hookers lying was a bit incomplete. In my experience an hour service an hour session usually I would get 2+ pops. True in Brazil too. But if a girl decides no. What are you going to do? Is it really worth a problem with police?

Diana- So cute. Fun too. Screams likes her hair pulled too! Gagged her good.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2184755]Diana- So cute. Fun too. Screams likes her hair pulled too! Gagged her good.[/QUOTE]Truth in labeling too, she is very sexy.

Was she a 30 K, 50 K girl?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2184202]I can not believe what I am reading. Finally a monger that has his head on straight.[/QUOTE]I guess you are one of the few that do?

Wood can you PM contact info?

[QUOTE=Aragorn;2184836]Truth in labeling too, she is very sexy.

Was she a 30 K, 50 K girl?[/QUOTE]She's a 40 k, 20 yrs old, Veneka (what Colombians cal them), she's a MILF- But still great. Seemed to enjoy and was all smiles. A semi GF quickie.

No BBBJ but I'll get her on the next session.

[QUOTE=Allied;2184870]Wood can you PM contact info?[/QUOTE]Hey Now,

Not able to contact you, I guess cause your level?

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2184871]She's a 40 k, 20 yrs old, Veneka (what Colombians cal them), she's a MILF- But still great. Seemed to enjoy and was all smiles. A semi GF quickie.

No BBBJ but I'll get her on the next session.[/QUOTE]Does that mean Venezuelan?

She's a mom? Wow.