Cartagena Reports

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1232972]MHL, not to contradict you, the Yoda here (no sarcasm) , but making high quality copies closely resembling your original passport and laminating is illegal in the USA unless it says "copy" on it. As a matter of fact Kinkos would not even allow color copies of passports. Kinkos goes overboard with the federal law as per law, that is most commonly interpreted, if you make a color copy it should look like an obvious copy. Don't ask my what I do for a living but trust me on this.[/QUOTE]


Thanks for the kind words but I am far far from any kind of Yoda on Colombia, more like a guy who has been going since 05 and makes good mental notes an observations of the people and his surroundings.

About the copy, I'm talking making a good copy from your home color lazerjet printer and then I laminate it. It still looks like a copy, obviously it has NONE of the security measure an actual passport would have in it like holograms, embedded actual photo or most importantly the RFID chip. If some of you have reservations with making a copy then don't do it. Do whatever works for you. If you do make a copy and bring it to Colombia with you but have reservations with bringing it back with you then burn it before you leave but I for sure am not going to walk around with my original passport for fear of it getting lost or stolen.

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1233065]Folks,

PS: I cannot say the same positive things about police in various other countries, including Mexico, Panama, and some African countries, where I had to leave some money as bribe for having done nothing bad.[/QUOTE]Agree with you and MHL. My comments are just that. No arguments from me.

I have travelled to more countries than I can remember. I also fully agree Mexican cops are worst in the world.

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1233065]The typical story is that they stop me, they ask me what I am doing there, from where I come from, to show my passport. After that, at times I am also asked to empty my pockets and even frisked with care. After all that, when they have verified I am OK, the fierce look of police agents rapidly changes to an open smile: pat on my shoulder and "buenas noches".[/QUOTE]Nothing to add, except I do not know if in other countries an identity card in addition to the passport is standard. But one may use any identification type document that shows a photo I guess (driving license). At least this works when paying with credit card which does hardly work in Colombia without an identification document. It also works with the polce or military check points. I noticed that there are a lot of strange recommendations on this board: Do not use ATM, do not use credit card. Having family in Colombia and thus spending a lot of time there I wonder why one should behave much differntly like one does in the home country. I use ATM, I use credit card and I never run around with my passport in my home country. But what has all this to do with Cartagena? Seems to be a general topic.

I frequently use my ATM card and never had a problem. Never carry my passport in Cartagena and have been stoped but never had any problem moving on once they did a quick search. Pretty simple. Never used a credit card, but my one buddy does all the time.

QUOTE=TuDueno; 1233193]Nothing to add, except I do not know if in other countries an identity card in addition to the passport is standard. But one may use any identification type document that shows a photo I guess (driving license). At least this works when paying with credit card which does hardly work in Colombia without an identification document. It also works with the polce or military check points. I noticed that there are a lot of strange recommendations on this board: Do not use ATM, do not use credit card. Having family in Colombia and thus spending a lot of time there I wonder why one should behave much differntly like one does in the home country. I use ATM, I use credit card and I never run around with my passport in my home country. But what has all this to do with Cartagena? Seems to be a general topic.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TuDueno;1233193]Nothing to add, except I do not know if in other countries an identity card in addition to the passport is standard. But one may use any identification type document that shows a photo I guess (driving license). At least this works when paying with credit card which does hardly work in Colombia without an identification document. It also works with the polce or military check points. I noticed that there are a lot of strange recommendations on this board: Do not use ATM, do not use credit card. Having family in Colombia and thus spending a lot of time there I wonder why one should behave much differntly like one does in the home country. I use ATM, I use credit card and I never run around with my passport in my home country. But what has all this to do with Cartagena? Seems to be a general topic.[/QUOTE]1) I recommend to take your national picture I'd with you, plus a photocopy of the passport, only as a surrogate of your original valid passport, which under no circumstances you should take around the streets. It's precious and it must stay in your room.

Although our national I'd has no legal value in another country, it works enough well to let me have NO problems in my 25+ visits to Colombia in 5-6 years (and, believe me, I've been searched and frisked in very questionable areas).

2) About debit and credit cards, I repeat what I wrote already countless times. Skip all paranoic recommendations here and in other forums:

- you will use ATMs (debit card) to get cash, more convenient than all other ways to change money;

- you will use credit cards freely as you do in your home country (only small places do not accept it).

I NEVER got my cards cloned, or blocked by the bank for suspicious use, after many many hundreds transactions in Colombia. It's possible, but not so likely as someone says here. I got my card blocked by the bank after use in Turkey, USA and some other country, never in Colombia.

I don't like cigarette smoke, is there in LDV much or not much smoke? Is there in Cartagena pick up point outdoors or smoke free?

Thanks

hey guys,

i'm heading down for my 4th trip feb 15-20, and want to take an amiga to playa blanca for a day. for a change of pace, do you go directly to the docks in the am and hook up with them (transportation / speed boat) , or is it equally effective using any of the touts near the hilton.

thanks for the help.

doc

[quote=travel doc10; 1236682]hey guys,

i'm heading down for my 4th trip feb 15-20, and want to take an amiga to playa blanca for a day. for a change of pace, do you go directly to the docks in the am and hook up with them (transportation / speed boat) , or is it equally effective using any of the touts near the hilton.

thanks for the help.

doc[/quote]go to docks at 7am or so, make sure you know what boat you are getting they vary alot. it could be like taking the slow boat to china, also those little boats on the east side of laguito and south side of the hilton you could charter yourself which would be quicker i would think avoiding rosario and coming and going on your own terms rather than the boats agenda, not to mention if the weather sucks you didn't buy a ticket in advance. also consider going to playa de punta arena just across from laguito, you could rent a jet ski and head over there for few hours or get little boat in laguito, not as nice as playa blanca but quick if the weather isn't cooperating.

[QUOTE=Alexsandro; 1236563]I don't like cigarette smoke, is there in LDV much or not much smoke? Is there in Cartagena pick up point outdoors or smoke free?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Sit outside on the bench. Also RTFMAP. [url]http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?vps=3&jsv=329b&hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=202115846141467908565.0004a0706d2b411420a83[/url]

There is no smoking in LDV or for the most part any place inside. Its a no smoke place other then outside.

[QUOTE=Alexsandro; 1236563]I don't like cigarette smoke, is there in LDV much or not much smoke? Is there in Cartagena pick up point outdoors or smoke free?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Just made my first and second trips to Cartagena recently. Both short business trips.

First trip stayed at Santa Teresa. Expensive for my taste, but I wasn't paying for it. Glad to be staying in the old town area, very cool place. And thanks to Hillbilly69's map. It came in very handy. First night went to Isis and had some beers, but just didn't hit it off with any of the lovelies. Maybe I was tired. Next day walked around a bit, spotted a couple of potential locations to check out later but couldn't for the life of me find Queens. Anyway, went up on the old wall by the hotel just to relax and check out the scenery. A tall, young, beautiful Afro-Colombiana walks by, we exchange hellos and she keeps walking. At this point I just stay where I am and finally after 50m or so, she turns around to see me still looking at her. She walks back toward my location and stops about 10 feet from me like she's talking on her phone. After she puts her phone away, I make my way over to her and in my best gringo spanish strike up a conversation. It's more comical than anything, but I get her number and we agree to meet later at the hotel for a drink. A couple hours later we meet in the lobby of the hotel and she looks stunning. Red dress showing just enough cleavage, perfect skin, sweet as can be. We have a couple of beers in the bar, then head out and grab a bite to eat. She asks me if I want to go to a club. Of course! So she takes me to. Wait for it. Queens! I couldn't believe it. Seems they put their sign away during the day. Pretty funny. So we're in Queens drinking and having a nice time, she is getting frisky and let's me know how much she loves to kiss. DFK. A freakin' wrestling match! Very nice. After a while it's time to go and I ask her if she would like to join me in the hotel. She answers by ramming her tongue down my throat again. Let's go! Entering the hotel, security directs me over to reception and I know what's about to happen. Yup, I get charged for an additional person in my room. I could have argued it, but it was late and I was very horny at this point. So I told them just charge it to my account. Up in the room we hit it off great. Total GFE. Her skin is just perfection, tall with a great body to match. DATY, missionary, doggie, cowgirl. But she did not initiate BJ and I did not push it. I was enjoying everything else! Anyway not a lot of sleep that night. Next morning, I slip some money in her bag and send her on her way as I have to go to work. Not once did she bring up money. Did not see her again this trip but kept in contact with her in preparation for follow-on trips.

Second trip stayed at Santa Clara. Again expensive for my taste, but I'm not paying for it. I have stayed in contact with Jan in hopes of seeing her again. This time I confirm with hotel my reservation is good for two people and I let them know my novia will join me. Day of arrival, Jan texts me and asks if I want her to pick me up. I pass as I have to go straight to the office. We agree to meet later in the afternoon at the hotel. When she does arrive at the hotel, again she is a total knockout. White dress against her dark skin is just amazing. I take her to the front desk and check her in on my account and give her a second room key. I can tell she is very excited about this. She has just figured out where she is going to stay for the next three nights. Get to the room and she jumps me this time. Even taking charge and going down on me for a while. I can tell she's inexperienced in that artform, but that's something we'll work on. It's a great three days. I go to work in the morning after the perfect wake up call and she goes back to sleep. I get back to the hotel after work and we go at it again, rest, then go out to dinner, and start all over again. Lather, rinse, repeat. She showed me some great restaurants, even took me to the boarding house where she stays and got to meet some of the other girls living there. Mental note, a couple of hotties. Went to the beach out in front of Hotel Caribe. Hung out in one of the cabanas and had a few beers and some food. Didn't get bothered too much, and met some of her other friends. More hotties! All in all a perfect four days. Like the first trip, not once did she talk money, but I slipped some in her bag each day.

Here's a couple of pics. She deleted the adult pics while I wasn't looking. I'll get some next trip and share them.

BTW. I'll be in Cartagena next week. Always up for a beer if anyone is interested, just PM me.

J

My Novia Bday is coming up and I would like to send her some flowers. I know. I know. I know. What can I do I'm a romantico LOL.

So any of you know a reliable service or local establishment where I can call get the flowers delivered to her house.

Or a web site?

Thanks in advance

[QUOTE=Sobaje; 1240349]My Novia Bday is coming up and I would like to send her some flowers. I know. I know. I know. What can I do I'm a romantico LOL.

So any of you know a reliable service or local establishment where I can call get the flowers delivered to her house.

Or a web site?

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE][url]Www.wersternunion.com[/url] Or [url]www.moneygram.com[/url]

Just kidding, LOL. Use this place, never had a problem [url]http://1vende.com/[/url]

In November I noticed 2 places with beds with canopy on ther beach, red ones at the end closest to laquito and white ones about midway up the beach. Are these connected with a hotel, and available only to guests, or are they available for anyone who is willing to pay? Has anyone used them? What do they charge? I'm thinking it might make for a nice day at the beach with a friend, especially if there is very good food / drink service assoc. With it.

Thanks for your help.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1240946][url]Www.wersternunion.com[/url]

Or.

[url]www.moneygram.com[/url]

Just kidding, LOL. Use this place, never had a problem.

[url]http://1vende.com/[/url][/QUOTE]I remember seeing that site but don't remember if I've used them. I've also used daflores. Com and sensacionesyregalos. Com without any problems.

[QUOTE=Travel Doc10; 1241359]In November I noticed 2 places with beds with canopy on ther beach, red ones at the end closest to laquito and white ones about midway up the beach. Are these connected with a hotel, and available only to guests, or are they available for anyone who is willing to pay? Has anyone used them? What do they charge? I'm thinking it might make for a nice day at the beach with a friend, especially if there is very good food / drink service assoc. With it.

Thanks for your help.[/QUOTE]I used the red one is connected to but owned by the hotel. I ordered half a bottle of Vodka and some food and hung out with Leena. Far better hanging out there than on the dirty plastic chairs on the beach.

[QUOTE=Travel Doc10; 1241359]In November I noticed 2 places with beds with canopy on ther beach, red ones at the end closest to laquito and white ones about midway up the beach. Are these connected with a hotel, and available only to guests, or are they available for anyone who is willing to pay? Has anyone used them? What do they charge? I'm thinking it might make for a nice day at the beach with a friend, especially if there is very good food / drink service assoc. With it.

Thanks for your help.[/QUOTE]In front of Hotel Dann Playa Hollywood, I didn't have to pay for the beds but they may charge small fee and I wasn't staying there. The girls might have paid something. They serve drinks not sure about food.

Give them a try, If you order before valentines day there is a discount.

Mel.

[QUOTE=Sobaje; 1240349]My Novia Bday is coming up and I would like to send her some flowers. I know. I know. I know. What can I do I'm a romantico LOL.

So any of you know a reliable service or local establishment where I can call get the flowers delivered to her house.

Or a web site?

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Strickjb;1239086]She deleted the adult pics while I wasn't looking. I'll get some next trip and share them.[/QUOTE]Free program I used on a SD memory card that showed it had no photos (empty) , this program found over 50 photos and a video that was supposedly "deleted"; Pandora Recovery. Find and Recover Deleted Files of Any Type: [url]http://www.pandorarecovery.com/[/url]

Some colleagues were visiting Cartagena and after having dinner in the center, we decided to go have a beer in LDV and check the talent.

It was not one of the best nights to visit LDV. Only a few pretty girls, not even close to what I remember from previous visits. Also the ratio girls to boys was not good.

I guess it is somehow low season around here?

I will check again this weekend and see if it was just a slow night or a bad time of the year to visit.

Cheers

All week LDV has not been crowded at all. So my buddy and I were expecting Saturday night to have the best turn out but it was sh*t! The worse night all week. Definitely not standing room only as there were lots of empty chairs. Maybe about 25 girls and about the same number of guys? None of the girls would be stunners. Mostly 6 or 7's. All the good looking girls we saw during the week took the night off!

Overall LDV seemed a lot less busy compared to the same week last year. They've installed tvs that show the music video of the song being played. I find I spent most of the time looking at the tv instead of the chicas around me. And it wasn't because the videos were great! Also they do this annoying thing where it seems the dj goes on a break, puts on the techno music with a white flashing strobe light. In other clubs it's one song but this goes on for 17 minutes! Usually a couple of times during the night! No one was on the dancing last night.

I hope LDV is able to turn things around. Or is this their low season I wonder?

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this trip started jan 29 and we left feb 2.

ok moving on to the trip my friend and i had. flew spirit out of ac at 7am and was in cartagena by 1:30 we had a 1 hour layover in ft. lauderdale were we picked up 2 bottles of baileys in the duty free. by the time we landed we were feeling pretty good as we already polished off alot of liquor in route. my driver met me at airport who i always use and he also gets me my party favors see and m which make the trip even better. we check into torre de lago apartment complex which is an outsanding 2 bed 2 bath apartment. from there we unpack and hit the beaach to checkout some hot colombian girls. we meet to hotties in there teens 18 and 19, flat hard stomachs and ready to roll. cost was 100, 000 peso each which is about 55. 00 us. took them back to apartment and did a little smoke had a couple drinks and then did the deed. i had tatianna, my buddys girl was isabella. both very nice, bbbj and great sex! after that we sent them on there way, by now it was about 7 pm and we took a nap. woke up at 1:30 am this is what i love about colombia, no matter what time it is you can go out to the clubs. we showered and headed out to elecktra at 3am, it was packed with sexy women and we picked up another two for the night, drank at club till about 5 then went back to apartment smoked and did some see and partied till about 8am. then we fucked took a couple zolpidem which is a sleeping pill that is made to knock you out, its even used as a date [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] drug, we all took one and didn't awake till about 1:30 in afternoon on monday. felt great, woke up fucked, smoked and headed to lunch with girls and then we sent them on there way. we paid thiese girls 150, 000 peso each. after buying them lunch at requisimo we headed to el bony beach bar to have some drinks, with in an hour we had two more lina and christina. we got massages and drank all afternoon and then took the girls around 6pm to dinner at cabo de palo restaurant, they have great sangria and steaks grilled on a out side charcoal grill. by 8 we were back at apartment smoking, drinking and doing see we had the girls naked in the apartment and we both fucked each others girls all over the apartment it was crazy around 12 we all went to ldv club. we already new that the two girls we had ate each others pussys and did all kind of crazy shit with each other so we asked them if they could pick out two more we could take back to the apartment so we could each have 2 girls, they said hell yea, so after another bottle of rum we had two more by 3am and headed back to apartment and needless to say it was off the hook. more zolpidem and woke up around 11am and sent all girls on there way after a morning romp. tuesday and wednesday was more of the same and we headed home thursday, which was along day because we leave cartagena at 2; 30 and have about a 3 hour layover in ft lauderdale so we got right thru customs and grabbed a cab to a bar called docks about 10 minutes from airport. we had a great time in there and then headed back to airport and was back in ac by 11; 30 at night. a great trip and beautiful weathere the entire time! will head back in two months.

What time were you there? I was there from Sunday till Wednesday and had a blast. Plenty of nice looking girls. Now realize I am not big on the 10's I prefer around an 8 because I find there always more fun. But the night I went there there the place was packed. Didn't make it there Sunday because we didn't get up till late so we headed right to Eleckra which was packed. We had a ball. Only thing that happened was I didn't have hot water for a couple days and the internet in my apartment never worked so it kinda fucked me up because I enjoy communicating thru internet and don't feel like running to internet store often. So I brought my laptop for nothing.

[QUOTE=Bolman; 1244326]Some colleagues were visiting Cartagena and after having dinner in the center, we decided to go have a beer in LDV and check the talent.

It was not one of the best nights to visit LDV. Only a few pretty girls, not even close to what I remember from previous visits. Also the ratio girls to boys was not good.

I guess it is somehow low season around here?

I will check again this weekend and see if it was just a slow night or a bad time of the year to visit.

Cheers[/QUOTE]

Not bad but where is the pics? Thanks

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this trip started jan 29 and we left feb 2.

ok moving on to the trip my friend and i had. flew spirit out of ac at 7am and was in cartagena by 1:30 we had a 1 hour layover in ft. lauderdale were we picked up 2 bottles of baileys in the duty free. by the time we landed we were feeling pretty good as we already polished off alot of liquor in route. my driver met me at airport who i always use and he also gets me my party favors see and m which make the trip even better. we check into torre de lago apartment complex which is an outsanding 2 bed 2 bath apartment. from there we unpack and hit the beaach to checkout some hot colombian girls. we meet to hotties in there teens 18 and 19, flat hard stomachs and ready to roll. cost was 100, 000 peso each which is about 55. 00 us. took them back to apartment and did a little smoke had a couple drinks and then did the deed. i had tatianna, my buddys girl was isabella. both very nice, bbbj and great sex! after that we sent them on there way, by now it was about 7 pm and we took a nap. woke up at 1:30 am this is what i love about colombia, no matter what time it is you can go out to the clubs. we showered and headed out to elecktra at 3am, it was packed with sexy women and we picked up another two for the night, drank at club till about 5 then went back to apartment smoked and did some see and partied till about 8am. then we fucked took a couple zolpidem which is a sleeping pill that is made to knock you out, its even used as a date [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] drug, we all took one and didn't awake till about 1:30 in afternoon on monday. felt great, woke up fucked, smoked and headed to lunch with girls and then we sent them on there way. we paid thiese girls 150, 000 peso each. after buying them lunch at requisimo we headed to el bony beach bar to have some drinks, with in an hour we had two more lina and christina. we got massages and drank all afternoon and then took the girls around 6pm to dinner at cabo de palo restaurant, they have great sangria and steaks grilled on a out side charcoal grill. by 8 we were back at apartment smoking, drinking and doing see we had the girls naked in the apartment and we both fucked each others girls all over the apartment it was crazy around 12 we all went to ldv club. we already new that the two girls we had ate each others pussys and did all kind of crazy shit with each other so we asked them if they could pick out two more we could take back to the apartment so we could each have 2 girls, they said hell yea, so after another bottle of rum we had two more by 3am and headed back to apartment and needless to say it was off the hook. more zolpidem and woke up around 11am and sent all girls on there way after a morning romp. tuesday and wednesday was more of the same and we headed home thursday, which was along day because we leave cartagena at 2; 30 and have about a 3 hour layover in ft lauderdale so we got right thru customs and grabbed a cab to a bar called docks about 10 minutes from airport. we had a great time in there and then headed back to airport and was back in ac by 11; 30 at night. a great trip and beautiful weathere the entire time! will head back in two months.[/quote]i have hung with you before, but if i was there i would not have been able to keep up with what you did on this trip.

at the fll airport you still kept it going. you are the man.

Please update us on how your trip is. Always interesting to here a first timer's experience.

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we showered and headed out to elecktra at 3am, it was packed with sexy women and we picked up another two for the night, drank at club till about 5 then went back to apartment smoked and did some see and partied till about 8am. then we fucked took a couple zolpidem which is a sleeping pill that is made to knock you out, its even used as a date [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] drug, we all took one and didn't awake till about 1:30 in afternoon on monday. felt great, woke up fucked, smoked and headed to lunch with girls and then we sent them on there way.[/quote]damn, son. ya'll are really living it up! lol

Hi Guys,

I am in Cartagena next week. Could someone recommend some good swing clubs in the city?

Thanks,
Helpmann :)

I recently came back from my 4th trip. 5 days. This was alot different then my previous times, and in many ways it was the most fun. I met a really fun girl my last time there and had continued to talk occasionally, so on this trip it was more like going on vacation with your gf. She met me at the airport and off we went. Thanks to Juan, had an excellent ocean front apt on the 10th floor in Lagiuto. Immeiatly off to the cama and blah, blah, blah. Mi amor. They are truely very passionate women. And excellent actresses! Always difficult to tell the difference, but isn't that part of the fantasy? Finally drinks on the patio and eventually off to cafe de mar, more drinks. Then on to dinner. Was planning on heading out much later for dancing / partying. But was a very long day and never made it out again.

Went to playa blanca the next day, was very nice. I recommend going on a weekday, I believe it is a little less crowded. Also, only get the ticket for transport, as we did, skip the "package", as I believe the extras are a waste of time. Thus you get more beach time. Finally came back, more drinks on the patio, play, nap, dinner, nap and off to Mister Babilla for dancing.

This was my first trip where I never set foot in LDV or took a beach girl. Although I do enjoy the weird vibe you get in ldv where all the girls eyes are on you and they want to fuck you / take your money.

I found an excellent place on the beach in laguito if you have a girl with you, it is the place with the red beds, it costs you nothing to use them, only to drink and / or eat there. It is very comfortable, relaxing and much more romantic then sitting in the plastic chairs, you can get bottle service like at the bars, reasonable prices, excellent house music, and most importantly, roped off so the touts on the beach can't bother you, yet you can still watch the people pass by.

Warning, only go to this place if you already have a girl with you, as you will fing that at least half the clientel is gay, which is not a problem for me, but you might feel awkward if you are by yourself. We wound up spending several afternoons here. The weather was excellent, high 80's no clouds the entire trip.

More of the same, dining at nice places in centro. Drinking / dancing. Do highly recommend lunch at Boneys (whole fish) on the beach, mure better quality than what you will get from the local touts on the beach (or the restaurant assoc. With the red bed place).

My frien napped for a few hours one afternoon in apt, so I went to the beach for a few beers, ran into tony, usually I can put up with his stuff, as he helped me out quite a bit my 1st two trips, but this was finally too much, I don't believe I will ever buy a beer from him again. Really a pain in the ass.

Went shopping for a few hours in centro. Got my friend some clothes. She really wanted a ring (she says no pressure or anything. Ha ha) I said maybe another time (right). These are really fun women, as long as you enjoy the fantasy, but don't allow yourself to truly believe it. As we are all really just a ticket out for them.

Anyways, all in all, an excellent trip with a really fun girl. Looking forward to another trip some time in the future, take care and have fun, Doc

Gents. It's been 14 months since I've visited Cartagena and was looking for some current hot spots for P4P. Yes and I have read the forum and am aware of LDV, Electra and Isis. Just wanted some opinions on where I should concentrate my 72 hours in Cartagena for this trip?

Appreciate any tips!

[QUOTE=Joey Smith; 1251233]Gents. It's been 14 months since I've visited Cartagena and was looking for some current hot spots for P4P. Yes and I have read the forum and am aware of LDV, Electra and Isis. Just wanted some opinions on where I should concentrate my 72 hours in Cartagena for this trip?

Appreciate any tips![/QUOTE]Joey you pretty much answered your own question, LDV, Electra and Isis. During the day you can pick up girls on the beach also, just make sure they are working girls, many of the girls on the beach are not working and are with family.

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We meet to hotties in there teens 18 and 19, flat hard stomachs and ready to roll. Cost was 100, 000 peso each which is about 55. 00 us. Took them back to apartment and did a little smoke had a couple drinks and then did the deed. I had Tatianna, my buddys girl was Isabella. Both very nice, BBBJ and great sex![/QUOTE]Great report. You ran into these two on the beach or were these pre arranged? The last time I was there, other than the one girl we are mutually aquatinted with, I did not see any hotties with tight bodies. I saw several 19-20 yr olds but they were flabby 6s. Good for you.

What are the current rates for TLN and short time for the LDV / Elektra hot ones? Anyone been to these places this month to comment on level of talent? Does the film festival help bring better talent?

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1251418]Joey you pretty much answered your own question, LDV, Electra and Isis. During the day you can pick up girls on the beach also, just make sure they are working girls, many of the girls on the beach are not working and are with family.[/QUOTE]

This might seem like a stupid question, but is it realy easy to pick up black girls in Cartagena? On the beach or some other place?

My regular black honey in Bogota is out of the country just now and I'm itching for some smooth black skin and some pink pussy. Bogota is hit and miss for negritas.

[QUOTE=Love Handler;1254001]This might seem like a stupid question, but is it realy easy to pick up black girls in Cartagena?[/QUOTE]How much do you plan to offer?

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1254010]How much do you plan to offer?[/QUOTE]Depends on the girls obviously but I'm looking at 100, 000-150, 000COP.

The question is a general one, because theres probably lots of lighter skinned girls for the foreingers that arrive in CTG.

Looking for some advise on the CTG scene with regards to black pussy

[QUOTE=Love Handler; 1254001]This might seem like a stupid question, but is it realy easy to pick up black girls in Cartagena? On the beach or some other place?

My regular black honey in Bogota is out of the country just now and I'm itching for some smooth black skin and some pink pussy. Bogota is hit and miss for negritas.[/QUOTE]LH,

I know what you mean. My negrita novia is from Cartagena. I'm missing her right now. Lots of dark skinned babes there.

[QUOTE=Love Handler; 1254040]Depends on the girls obviously but I'm looking at 100, 000-150, 000COP.

The question is a general one, because theres probably lots of lighter skinned girls for the foreingers that arrive in CTG.

Looking for some advise on the CTG scene with regards to black pussy[/QUOTE]Hi,

Do not know if this helps much,

But I have seen some " negritas" in both LDV and Electra,

Nice bodies in general.

I haven't tried them myself, but for sure you will find options around Cartagena, the percentage of "negritas" is in general higher in the " costa" area.

Greetings

Went back to CTG to look an apartment for sale as well as visiting LDV and Hollywood Beach.

The Good: LDV was rocking with lots of women on Friday nite. Best I've seen in all my trips to CTG. Pulled a gem for 200k. Although I had to buy her a drink before she left LDV with me. Apparently the owner is requiring the girls buy a drink or the hombre purchase one for them before leaving. The ladies told me that they are being blacklisted from working in LDV unless this happens.

Plenty of lower cost options trolling on the beach. If that's your game.

The Bad: if you visit Hollywood Beach don't give this slime ball Tony any of your time. He is such a douche bag and still tries to overcharge for everything even if you call him out. Avoid. Avoid.

[QUOTE=RobertSmith; 1254903]Has anyone seen this girl in Cartagena, goes by Rosa Maria Perez, photo in blue shirt. Trying to see is this is a working girl or a regular girl, she usually hangs out in El Centro and by the Puerto de Reloj, around 24 yrs old. If anyone knows of her, went out with her whatever let me know. Seing if she is playing the game or a regular girl. 3 photos attached, she's the one in the blue shirt.

More likely she has been playing me and others like the flute, appreciate any feedback from anyone who may have met her, loves to dance, have fun etc etc. Denies completely she has ever worked as a Pre-pago or prostitute. We guys need to stick together, all feedback appreciated, thank you.[/QUOTE]I don't know but damnnnnn she is ugly as a dog. I hope you aren't catching feelings over that wooden nickel. You do realize you are in Colombia and not Afghanistan? If she is or isn't, buy her a hamburger and a half bottle of guaro and move on to the next piece of hot ass.

[QUOTE=RobertSmith; 1254903]Has anyone seen this girl in Cartagena, goes by Rosa Maria Perez, photo in blue shirt. Trying to see is this is a working girl or a regular girl, she usually hangs out in El Centro and by the Puerto de Reloj, around 24 yrs old. If anyone knows of her, went out with her whatever let me know. Seing if she is playing the game or a regular girl. 3 photos attached, she's the one in the blue shirt.

More likely she has been playing me and others like the flute, appreciate any feedback from anyone who may have met her, loves to dance, have fun etc etc. Denies completely she has ever worked as a Pre-pago or prostitute. We guys need to stick together, all feedback appreciated, thank you.[/QUOTE]Robert I have to agree with bonhead, just me personally I don't see what your fascination is with this chica, she looks very below average by Colombiana standards and looks like your run of the mill street girl. In a matter of fact I doubt she could even work in a casa. Could she suck the chrome off a trailer hitch? Did she tell you that you were her best lay ever and you gave her 4 orgasms? Different strokes people! LOL

Not to worry, she is not in demand in Cartagena. She looks a lot like one of the street chicas in Laguito, can be had looooooong time for poco dinero (50-100K) I believe she is from Monteria. Anyway, Cartagena has a variety of chicas that visit for vacation that are looking for sex with a propina.

Rosa [blue][Personal Name deleted by Admin][/blue], anyone see this girl in Cartagena. 24 yrs old, hangs in El Centro! Short girl, cute, loves to dance is usually is in El Centro or near Puerta de Reloj. She swears she's not a prepago or prostitute. She has a regular real job during the day. Trying to see if she's playing me and others like a guitar or a truly good regular girl, photos attached. Any feedback on her greatly appreciated, relationship is getting serious and heavy and don't want surprises. We guys need to stick together, photos attached. Any and all feedback appreciated, thanks

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[QUOTE=LocoGringo;1255160]Not to worry, she is not in demand in Cartagena. She looks a lot like one of the street chicas in Laguito, can be had looooooong time for poco dinero (50-100K) I believe she is from Monteria. Anyway, Cartagena has a variety of chicas that visit for vacation that are looking for sex with a propina.[/QUOTE]Loco,

Where did you meet the girl in pic 3? I love me some dark-skin Cartagena novia!

But I've seen enough pictures of her. No disrespect but I doubt she's playing too many if she is at all. One mans trash is anothers treasure though. Good luck.

[QUOTE=RobertSmith;1255212]Rosa, anyone see this girl in Cartagena. 24 yrs old, hangs in El Centro! Short girl, cute, loves to dance is usually is in El Centro or near Puerta de Reloj. She swears she's not a prepago or prostitute. She has a regular real job during the day. Trying to see if she's playing me and others like a guitar or a truly good regular girl, photos attached. Any feedback on her greatly appreciated, relationship is getting serious and heavy and don't want surprises. We guys need to stick together, photos attached. Any and all feedback appreciated, thanks[/QUOTE]

The girl which stay on the beach are safe or not? They was cheaper than other girls in casas or disco ma I'don't be sure if they give me a good performance or if they have any sick.

[QUOTE=RobertSmith;1255303]Here is a better photo of Rosa Maria Perez. 24 yrs old, cute, young, loves to dance and have a good time. Hang out in El Cento near Puerto del Reloj. She swears she's not a pre-pago or prostitute. Probably playing the field and playing guys like guitars. She swears she is a serious girl and does have a normal day working day job. Telling me she loves me & wants to Marry me for Marriage, etc etc. I know and have dated many Colombian women to know the game well. If anyone has seen this girl or has any adventures or experiences with her, please let me know, any feedback greatly appreciated. She could very well be a regular normal girl looking for love, well see, us guys need to stick together.[/QUOTE]Hey Robert, with no responses by now, I think you lucked out and now have a real keeper on your hands! Thank your lucky stars and good luck with YOUR gem!

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1255491]Hey Robert, with no responses by now, I think you lucked out and now have a real keeper on your hands! Thank your lucky stars and good luck with YOUR gem![/QUOTE]ROTFLMAO!!!

-Helpmann :)

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1255491]Hey Robert, with no responses by now, I think you lucked out and now have a real keeper on your hands! Thank your lucky stars and good luck with YOUR gem![/QUOTE]Probably no one on board commenting yet, I'm sure someone has seen or been with her, she's out allot in El Centro, Puerto de Reloj or Bocagrande. Anyone seen her, please let me know.

The 1st thing to ask yourself is was she looking for something, money, gift, etc. When you met her? If so do you think you are special? I met a chica from Poblado that is in college, good family BUT she was trying the game to get some dinero, etc. Often times they are called semipros here, still a working girl but new to the game. Remember folks, the most expensive pussy is when you think it is free, that and when we try and convert a ho to a "regular girl".

[QUOTE=RobertSmith;1255536]Probably no one on board commenting yet, I'm sure someone has seen or been with her, she's out allot in El Centro, Puerto de Reloj or Bocagrande. Anyone seen her, please let me know.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry but something seems fishy here. Why are you so hellbent on finging this lady? Judging by her pictures and that you describe her as "out allot in El Centro, Puerto de Reloj or Bocagrande", something tells me that you're looking for her for some reason other than to find out if she's a working girl or not. Maybe I'm wrong but I think there's more going on here than meets the eye.

[QUOTE=LocoGringo;1255715]The 1st thing to ask yourself is was she looking for something, money, gift, etc. When you met her? If so do you think you are special? I met a chica from Poblado that is in college, good family BUT she was trying the game to get some dinero, etc. Often times they are called semipros here, still a working girl but new to the game. Remember folks, the most expensive pussy is when you think it is free, that and when we try and convert a ho to a "regular girl".[/QUOTE]Locogringo where did you meet the girl in the second photo, very nice tan, so cute! Love to meet this one, does she have a cell-phone to contat her? Wow, really lovely!

[QUOTE=LocoGringo;1255715]The 1st thing to ask yourself is was she looking for something, money, gift, etc. When you met her? If so do you think you are special? I met a chica from Poblado that is in college, good family BUT she was trying the game to get some dinero, etc. Often times they are called semipros here, still a working girl but new to the game. Remember folks, the most expensive pussy is when you think it is free, that and when we try and convert a ho to a "regular girl".[/QUOTE]Loco,

Well done. Another fine babe. Pic 2.

LocoGringo who is this beautifull tan girl on the bed and how can I contact her, she is beautifull. I'm off to Cartagena, send me her contact info and let her know I promise a great time.

[QUOTE=LocoGringo;1255715]The 1st thing to ask yourself is was she looking for something, money, gift, etc. When you met her? If so do you think you are special? I met a chica from Poblado that is in college, good family BUT she was trying the game to get some dinero, etc. Often times they are called semipros here, still a working girl but new to the game. Remember folks, the most expensive pussy is when you think it is free, that and when we try and convert a ho to a "regular girl".[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jinxx;1255812]I'm sorry but something seems fishy here. Why are you so hellbent on finging this lady? Judging by her pictures and that you describe her as "out allot in El Centro, Puerto de Reloj or Bocagrande", something tells me that you're looking for her for some reason other than to find out if she's a working girl or not. Maybe I'm wrong but I think there's more going on here than meets the eye.[/QUOTE]My thoughts exactly.

Lost contact, but as all know these chicas say I am "special", mmmmm, and as I read here they say I give good wallet. Some more to look at:

Fun in Laguito

Just passing time

Alejandra. Still around. To be found in all the usual places; LDV, Elektra, Tu Candela. Still beautiful but now with plastic supplements.

[QUOTE=RobertSmith;1255943]LocoGringo who is this beautifull tan girl on the bed and how can I contact her, she is beautifull. I'm off to Cartagena, send me her contact info and let her know I promise a great time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Artful;1256244]Alejandra. Still around. To be found in all the usual places; LDV, Elektra, Tu Candela. Still beautiful but now with plastic supplements.[/QUOTE]That's her, Cartagena native, met her when she was in just turning 18 and in puta training. Why she got plastic is beyond me.

Locgringo this young pretty girl in the shower is beautifull, lovely, can I meet her?

[QUOTE=LocoGringo;1256069]Lost contact, but as all know these chicas say I am "special", mmmmm, and as I read here they say I give good wallet. Some more to look at:[/QUOTE]

Alexandra is gorgous. Any other photos from Cartagena adventures, greatly appreciated!

[QUOTE=LocoGringo;1256251]That's her, Cartagena native, met her when she was in just turning 18 and in puta training. Why she got plastic is beyond me.[/QUOTE]

I hit all these clubs Tu Candela, Elektra, La Dolce Vida (LDV) mainly to check out the eye candy, have fun, enjoy, dance to the music. Most of these girls just seem way to hardcore (only looking for $$) , I'm quite sure they will be watching the clock, looking for a good tip and all business. Too mechanical for me. I have travelled ALL over Colombia numerous times and know the game very well. I'm a gringo yet half Colombian so speak perfect Spanish yet look very gringo. The best GEMS were girls I met simply tooling around and having fun. Playa Hollywood beach girls are getting very greedy and ones from Medellin in Cartagena even worse. Years back it was so layed back and relaxed. Things seem to have really changed and its all a big business. I don't know about you, but their is nothing worse then being with a girl thats only for you for your cash. I have found numerous GFE's Girl friend experiences all throughout Colombia, changes the whole dynamics of your trip. Their is nothing better then meeting Colombian woman who want to hang with you for simply being you, definetely more rewarding. I have met many woman in Colombia who once we meet, they are with me 24 hrs a day for weeks or months, a total GFE experience. The plus is you get to look into thier true lives, meet their friends, family, work environment, social scene, see other parts of Colombia you would not have darred to see by yourself or on your own. And even if they are travelling with you, you can always find an excuse to do stuff on your own and do some play on the side with other girls. Just leave them in your hotel / apartment with a nice TV. Ha ha ha.

LDV La Dolce Vita Club in El Laquito has great music, yet is it me or the girls looking and acting way too business like? Its like not fun anymore. I used to go inside and dance / chat with the girls and they loved it. Know its all hardcore business, I walk in and I have a girl asking me to buy her a RedBull. Cali girls I love, very sensual, warm, passionate and beautifull. Paisas from Medellin a bit more hard and business like yet I have met some beautifull GFE's in Medellin, yet when they are in Medellin way better anyway you look at it. Something about once they arrive to touristy gringo-ville / European envasion in Cartagena. Its all business. I'm not complaining because even know I find great GFE even in Cartagena, yet again I'm half Colombian / Gringo with fairly good looks and a great personality.

I guess my point is its NOT all about the money, its like back home in the USA I always see these single guys driving their brand new convertible BMW, Mercedes or other luxary experensive automobile, driving all alone and doing thier loops looking for woman thinking you can simply buy a women by showing off thier new ride. I find it sad and pathetic, I even saw one guy pull over, chat with this girl for like 30 min seriously thinking like she was going to simply get in his fancy car and go out with him? Obviously did not happen. Same goes for in Colombia, if you play it cool & straight the Colombian woman find your more attractive. Yes money will get you an attractive colombian girl for a short time, yet I find it as they say in Colombia."pasajero".

[QUOTE=LocoGringo;1256251]That's her, Cartagena native, met her when she was in just turning 18 and in puta training. Why she got plastic is beyond me.[/QUOTE]Yea, now I recognize her, she is (was) a stunning girl. How old is the photo? I'm sure know she's a full blown Pro and all about the business. What ever happened to the sweet GFE's in Cartagena. I find them everywhere in Cali & Medellin. Well, I even found this in Cartagena, yet most of the girls I see are really getting simply profit / business oriented. Obviously Colombian women have needs, it is a third world country believe it or not (Cartagena). Well you have to get out of the touristy spots like El Laquito and Bocagrande. Head out to see the REAL parts of Cartagena where the real people live and you will see & experience a whole new thing. Has anyone actually seen where allot of these girls live? Go see it and experience thier real life. Then you will see & understand that a little money will go a long way, I'm ALL for helping economically and financially girls or families in need, you would be surprised how a little goes a long way. Don't get me wrong, many Colombian need help economically, simply said their is nothing worse than a girl being with you ONLY for the money, be it in Colombia, United States or anywhere!

[QUOTE=RobertSmith; 1256271]. I'm not complaining because even know I find great GFE even in Cartagena, yet again I'm half Colombian / Gringo with fairly good looks and a great personality.[/QUOTE]Yep, you sound like a truly amazing guy :)

[QUOTE=LocoGringo;1256251]That's her, Cartagena native, met her when she was in just turning 18 and in puta training. Why she got plastic is beyond me.[/QUOTE]Since inception Cololombianas are bombarded both by the media and social sterotypes that "Bigger is Better", where Big tits and big ass rule in this world and will offer prosperity. Hence the novela "sin senos no hay paraiso" Silicone ass and tits are a must for them if they feel that theirs are inadequate. A real shame here!

Give me a nice normal athletic ass with beautiful be-cup banana titties over an awkward looking silicone ass with bolt-on's any day of the week!

[QUOTE=Ricker;1256499]Yep, you sound like a truly amazing guy :)[/QUOTE]Yep, he really does sound like quite a handsome, charismatic devil! A true ladies man! And what revalations uffff! Keep them coming Robert you are an enjoyable read!

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1256508]Since inception Cololombianas are bombarded both by the media and social sterotypes that "Bigger is Better", where Big tits and big ass rule in this world and will offer prosperity. Hence the novela "sin senos no hay paraiso" Silicone ass and tits are a must for them if they feel that theirs are inadequate. A real shame here!

Give me a nice normal athletic ass with beautiful be-cup banana titties over an awkward looking silicone ass with bolt-on's any day of the week![/QUOTE]I just got back from Medellin earlier this week and while I was there, I noticed several things that indicated there may be a slight change in the air. First, in several of the malls, the clothing mannenquins all had much smaller breast than just a couple of years ago. Also, I saw a number of girls wearing shorts at the malls. Just little observations, but I did feel some change in these girls perceptions of the perfect body. I, too, vote for the "natural" beauty that is ubiquitous among the Paisa.

I'm a newbie to ISG, however been hobbying for about 15 yrs. I find myself in Cartagena this week. Is there any chance you could PM me with Lina's contact details? Sounds like my absolute dream girl.

Thanks in advance!

NBK

[QUOTE=Vitrea; 1219369]I have mongered all over the world and time with Lina (pronounced Leena) is probably among my top 5 all time experiences. I saw her on Playa Hollywood one afternoon, in a white hat, long white dress and celebrity style large sunglasses. She did not look like typical working girl. I hesitated a bit before I approached her with,"hola". At first she did not respond so I thought I screwed up and approached a non-pro. Few minutes later I saw her talk to another girl dressed like a typical working girl. I approached her for the second time. I got a friendly smile. (I don't think she heard me the first time). I asked her if I could buy her a drink. Took her to the only upscale bar on that beach, the one with red lounge cushions in front of a big hotel (did not notice names). Ordered half a bottle of Vodka. An hour into it, I asked her if she would like to go to my room and then go out to dinner. She agreed. I asked her about money and she said,"I do need money but that it is not the most important. I want to have fun and I will do my best to make sure you have fun. What ever you want to pay me at the end of the day is fine. I do not want to make this a pure business transaction." That was the last time we discussed money.

Lina is 24, light brown hair, great figure, Nice face, cute smile and is very sexy. She is intelligent, has a great sense of humour and open to anything. We went to the room showered, played around, went to cafe del mar, took carriage rides, went to La Vitriola, went to LDV and danced for a while, (Fragma is closed) and came back to the room for some more play. She stayed till morning. She left at 8 AM and came back at noon. We toured the city, she scored some we_d for me, went to the room and played. Freshened up, cafe del mar, went bar / restaurant hopping and ended up at Mr Babbiz (sp?) in Gantesmani. Cool bar with nice music. Went back to the room to continue the party there.

I had a phenomenal experience but she may not be the girl if you are looking for a fast fuck. For me, I would go back to CTG just to see Lina. If you see please treat her nice. You come across girls like this rarely.[/QUOTE]

There's a very cute young girl. Mariana. Who I met recently in Cartagena. She's not too tall, brunette with relatively pale white skin. Natural Cs. Fantastic attitude. You can find her through Jason on Playa Hollywood (the far end of Bocogrande) ; Jason is a softer spoken version of Tony, with a decent command of English. She does not hang out on the beach, but Jason has her number.

Jason should also have the number for a girl. Yesevia. Who was very nice and relaxed, and not a typical beach / LDV hard girl. Yesevia is a student and a cyclist (although shorter than most cyclists I've encountered).

[QUOTE=RobertSmith; 1256271]I hit all these clubs Tu Candela, Elektra, La Dolce Vida (LDV) mainly to check out the eye candy, have fun, enjoy, dance to the music. Most of these girls just seem way to hardcore (only looking for $$) , I'm quite sure they will be watching the clock, looking for a good tip and all business. Too mechanical for me. I have travelled ALL over Colombia numerous times and know the game very well. I'm a gringo yet half Colombian so speak perfect Spanish yet look very gringo. The best GEMS were girls I met simply tooling around and having fun. Playa Hollywood beach girls are getting very greedy and ones from Medellin in Cartagena even worse. Years back it was so layed back and relaxed. Things seem to have really changed and its all a big business. I don't know about you, but their is nothing worse then being with a girl thats only for you for your cash. I have found numerous GFE's Girl friend experiences all throughout Colombia, changes the whole dynamics of your trip. Their is nothing better then meeting Colombian woman who want to hang with you for simply being you, definetely more rewarding. I have met many woman in Colombia who once we meet, they are with me 24 hrs a day for weeks or months, a total GFE experience. The plus is you get to look into thier true lives, meet their friends, family, work environment, social scene, see other parts of Colombia you would not have darred to see by yourself or on your own. And even if they are travelling with you, you can always find an excuse to do stuff on your own and do some play on the side with other girls. Just leave them in your hotel / apartment with a nice TV. Ha ha ha.

LDV La Dolce Vita Club in El Laquito has great music, yet is it me or the girls looking and acting way too business like? Its like not fun anymore. I used to go inside and dance / chat with the girls and they loved it. Know its all hardcore business, I walk in and I have a girl asking me to buy her a RedBull. Cali girls I love, very sensual, warm, passionate and beautifull. Paisas from Medellin a bit more hard and business like yet I have met some beautifull GFE's in Medellin, yet when they are in Medellin way better anyway you look at it. Something about once they arrive to touristy gringo-ville / European envasion in Cartagena. Its all business. I'm not complaining because even know I find great GFE even in Cartagena, yet again I'm half Colombian / Gringo with fairly good looks and a great personality.

I guess my point is its NOT all about the money, its like back home in the USA I always see these single guys driving their brand new convertible BMW, Mercedes or other luxary experensive automobile, driving all alone and doing thier loops looking for woman thinking you can simply buy a women by showing off thier new ride. I find it sad and pathetic, I even saw one guy pull over, chat with this girl for like 30 min seriously thinking like she was going to simply get in his fancy car and go out with him? Obviously did not happen. Same goes for in Colombia, if you play it cool & straight the Colombian woman find your more attractive. Yes money will get you an attractive colombian girl for a short time, yet I find it as they say in Colombia."pasajero".[/QUOTE]If you can get girls to stay with you 24/7 for weeks and months what are you doing in places like LDV in the first place?

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1256508]Give me a nice normal athletic ass with beautiful be-cup banana titties over an awkward looking silicone ass with bolt-on's any day of the week![/QUOTE]Thank you! I feel the same exact way. Guys really need to start spreading the word that all this plastic $hit is not attractive. The pics locogringo posted of Alejandra I thought were absolutely adorable. No way I'd change anything on that girl.

Now I can understand if a lady has a totally flat chest or odd shaped breast getting some average sized fake boobs. My sister and my current girlfriend are almost flat-chested and I know for a fact that it bothers them. Nothing wrong with them wanting to fix that problem, but if a lady already has nice be-cups or see-cups she has no business having a bunch of plastic added on. And the fake butts, OMG from some of the pics I see coming out of Cali, this $hit is way out of hand. Who really thinks a big obviously fake-plastic butt is attractive? I think it looks disgusting.

Honestly the first thing I think when I see a girl who obviously has pounds of silicone all over her body is "how do I know that's not a post-op tranny". Seriously, it's not feminine at all.

Sorry guys, please excuse my ranting.

[QUOTE=Jinxx; 1259578]Thank you! I feel the same exact way. Guys really need to start spreading the word that all this plastic $hit is not attractive. The pics locogringo posted of Alejandra I thought were absolutely adorable. No way I'd change anything on that girl.

Now I can understand if a lady has a totally flat chest or odd shaped breast getting some average sized fake boobs. My sister and my current girlfriend are almost flat-chested and I know for a fact that it bothers them. Nothing wrong with them wanting to fix that problem, but if a lady already has nice be-cups or see-cups she has no business having a bunch of plastic added on. And the fake butts, OMG from some of the pics I see coming out of Cali, this $hit is way out of hand. Who really thinks a big obviously fake-plastic butt is attractive? I think it looks disgusting.

Honestly the first thing I think when I see a girl who obviously has pounds of silicone all over her body is "how do I know that's not a post-op tranny". Seriously, it's not feminine at all.

Sorry guys, please excuse my ranting.[/QUOTE]I agree with this rant; 100% The pics a few post ago of Alejandra (?) she was PERFECT the way she was. It's a "Keeping up with the Jones" attitude that is fueling this gross over the top plastic surgery. I know too many girls who have destroyed their perfect. PERFECTLY Perfect natural C or B cup titties! Sad.

I do think some fake boobs do look nice on a thin but flat chested girl. That porn star look is IMO very sexy. That plastic butt thing is whack!

[QUOTE=Jinxx; 1259578]Thank you! I feel the same exact way. Guys really need to start spreading the word that all this plastic $hit is not attractive. The pics locogringo posted of Alejandra I thought were absolutely adorable. No way I'd change anything on that girl.

Now I can understand if a lady has a totally flat chest or odd shaped breast getting some average sized fake boobs. My sister and my current girlfriend are almost flat-chested and I know for a fact that it bothers them. Nothing wrong with them wanting to fix that problem, but if a lady already has nice be-cups or see-cups she has no business having a bunch of plastic added on. And the fake butts, OMG from some of the pics I see coming out of Cali, this $hit is way out of hand. Who really thinks a big obviously fake-plastic butt is attractive? I think it looks disgusting.

Honestly the first thing I think when I see a girl who obviously has pounds of silicone all over her body is "how do I know that's not a post-op tranny". Seriously, it's not feminine at all.

Sorry guys, please excuse my ranting.[/QUOTE]I have had a girl with the ass implants that were silicone and gone hard. Was funny. Seriously you felt these hard plastic globs in her ass. Made something you could really grip while banging her ass which I laughed about at the time. But not a great experience.

I was wondering- girls maybe having silicone not for being attractive to guys. They may be doing it for looking good in other girls' eyes in competitions among girls. They may not care if guys like their silicone bodies, but they may care if other girls admire and envy their bodies.

[QUOTE=Jinxx;1259578]Guys really need to start spreading the word that all this plastic $hit is not attractive.[/QUOTE]

Lots of new girls in the beaches, in laguito and bocagrande, over the next few days, and it fills up on holy week, with girls from all over Colombia. Looking for extra cash.

Some new and others the same as usual. Hollywood beach, Laguito, Centro, at the clock tower. And the other clubs at the Bomba el amparo, area. Where the locals go, a bit cheaper. Also.

I am a US Resident, currently living in Cartagena, in Laguito.

Be glad to show you around, and advice on the girls.

Regards,

Nicolas11

[QUOTE=Nicolas11; 1259904]I am a US Resident, currently living in Cartagena, in Laguito.

Be glad to show you around, and advice on the girls.

Regards,

Nicolas11[/QUOTE]Greetings and Gracias NiCoLas.

Let me ask first, are there any apartment sites you can recommend or should my and friend stay in Hotel. If hotel, which is best for closest to beach and nightclub area? Where do the college locals hang out? Which scene for daytime is best on weekends?

Mas mas. Preguntas. Why I will be coming to CTG en May.

X

[QUOTE=Nicolas11; 1259894]Lots of new girls in the beaches, in laguito and bocagrande, over the next few days, and it fills up on holy week, with girls from all over Colombia. Looking for extra cash.

Some new and others the same as usual. Hollywood beach, Laguito, Centro, at the clock tower. And the other clubs at the Bomba el amparo, area. Where the locals go, a bit cheaper. Also.[/QUOTE]What about early May, are there are any fests or events? I have booked for a May flight.

[QUOTE=NobodyKnows; 1257147]I'm a newbie to ISG, however been hobbying for about 15 yrs. I find myself in Cartagena this week. Is there any chance you could PM me with Lina's contact details? Sounds like my absolute dream girl.

Thanks in advance!

NBK[/QUOTE]I am also in Cartagena, if you need any asistance finding a girl, I would be glad to help you and show you around.

I know a few places.

Regards.

Nicolas11

[QUOTE=ChicagoDancer; 1260025]Greetings and Gracias NiCoLas.

Let me ask first, are there any apartment sites you can recommend or should my and friend stay in Hotel. If hotel, which is best for closest to beach and nightclub area? Where do the college locals hang out? Which scene for daytime is best on weekends?

Mas mas. Preguntas. Why I will be coming to CTG en May.

OK.

Well, if you take a taxi to laguito, from the airport, you will find various buildings, I recommend, Torres Del lago, Mirador Del laguito, and Playamar. They are close to the beach, and to the LDV. The college locals hang out in centro, mostly near the clock tower, or at the malls, CASTELLANA MALL or Caribe Plaza.

Daytime, well, maybe the beach in Bocagrande, or laguito, or the malls, the ones I mentioned before.

Regards,

Nicolas

I am thinking about going down to Cartagena the weekend before July 4th, anyone know if that is a particularly good or bad time to go? I believe it is university holiday during that time.

Also, it will be a national holiday for San Pedro why San Pablo, do you know if this is a holiday where people will be celebrating a lot or if there is a possibility of them cracking down and closing the bars? Given Cartagena is a coastal town, I imagine it would be the former, but prefer to confirm before booking the trip.

[QUOTE=Nicolas11; 1260829]

[QUOTE=ChicagoDancer; 1260025]Greetings and Gracias NiCoLas.

Let me ask first, are there any apartment sites you can recommend or should my and friend stay in Hotel. If hotel, which is best for closest to beach and nightclub area? Where do the college locals hang out? Which scene for daytime is best on weekends?

Mas mas. Preguntas. Why I will be coming to CTG en May.

OK.

Well, if you take a taxi to laguito, from the airport, you will find various buildings, I recommend, Torres Del lago, Mirador Del laguito, and Playamar. They are close to the beach, and to the LDV. The college locals hang out in centro, mostly near the clock tower, or at the malls, CASTELLANA MALL or Caribe Plaza.

Daytime, well, maybe the beach in Bocagrande, or laguito, or the malls, the ones I mentioned before.

Regards,

Nicolas[/QUOTE]Thank you very much! I hope we can find each other. Is the club Dolce Vida good? I am into great music and girls.

Which is the best beach?

Let me ask first, are there any apartment sites you can recommend or should my and friend stay in Hotel. If hotel, which is best for closest to beach and nightclub area? Where do the college locals hang out? Which scene for daytime is best on weekends?

Mas mas. Preguntas. Why I will be coming to CTG en May.

OK.

Well, if you take a taxi to laguito, from the airport, you will find various buildings, I recommend, Torres Del lago, Mirador Del laguito, and Playamar. They are close to the beach, and to the LDV. The college locals hang out in centro, mostly near the clock tower, or at the malls, CASTELLANA MALL or Caribe Plaza.

Daytime, well, maybe the beach in Bocagrande, or laguito, or the malls, the ones I mentioned before.

Regards,

Nicolas[/QUOTE]Which building or side is less noisy? During the night I don't sleep if there is too noise.

Thanks

How is the situation about chicas in November? Anyone is thinking of going in this month?

[QUOTE=ChicagoDancer; 1261121][QUOTE=Nicolas11; 1260829]Thank you very much! I hope we can find each other. Is the club Dolce Vida good? I am into great music and girls.

Which is the best beach?[/QUOTE]Yes LDV is great with music, but there are other clubs in centro, Tu Candela, is pretty good. I will buy membership, so I can send you my email, and well be in contact.

Regards,

Nico

Nicolas11 please contact me as well.

[QUOTE=Nicolas11; 1261499][QUOTE=ChicagoDancer; 1261121]Yes LDV is great with music, but there are other clubs in centro, Tu Candela, is pretty good. I will buy membership, so I can send you my email, and well be in contact.

Regards,

Nico[/QUOTE]

I will likely be making a monger vaca from June 29. July 4th and am waffling between Havana and Cartagena, I would love to hear some insight from seasoned mongers. As a bit of background, I have been to Medellin 3 times and Cartagena 2 times already, and speak enough basic spanish that I have never needed a translator or had difficulty communicating in Colombia.

I am thinking about Cartagena or Havana because I love the working girl bar scene such as LDV and Electra, and it seems like La Cecilia and Salon Rojo would be similar types of scenes.

How would you rate the non-mongering activities in Havana vs Cartagena? I like to sight see, and hit the beach and relax during the daytime, maybe snorkel or jet ski, etc. Also, while on vacation I do sample "partying" a bit with the see readily in Colombia, is it possible to "party" at all in Cuba or is that a death wish?

Any advice or opinions would be greatly appreciated. I'll definitely post a trip report and pics from wherever I go. Thanks!

[QUOTE=Alexsandro;1261368]How is the situation about chicas in November? Anyone is thinking of going in this month?[/QUOTE]Never been in November but November is a party Month in Cartagena, its called "las fiestas" they have the miss Colombia thing in Cartagena.

I assume must be "fun"

[QUOTE=Sobaje; 1262839]Never been in November but November is a party Month in Cartagena, its called "las fiestas" they have the miss Colombia thing in Cartagena.

I assume must be "fun"[/QUOTE]The first two weeks of November suck big time.

Both Havana and Cartagena are great mongering locations-I have been to both many times; they are a lot of fun but very different. Havana, Cuba is of course comunist, and they are very much into protecting their reputation as a country with no hookers. Most of the chicas in Columbia work for certain establishments for a Contract and most hussle in the open. Cops in Cartagena will not care if you are with a chica in a cab-not in Havana. There are many hotels and apartments available for rent in Cartagena who don't mind you bringing in girls-in Havana you need to go to private casas that allow it. Hotels in Havana frequently will not allow guests and if they do they charge a lot of money. There is very little Plastic surgery in Cuba as they don"t have the products; there is plenty in Colombia. Food is super in Cartagena; not so much in Havana, unless you know where to go, But generally its about 30% cheaper in Havana for everything including chicas. There are a number of spots that rival LDV in Havana; like Jonny's; but its a bit of a game. You will not be able to leave in the same cab as the chica; however you can always give her the address of your casa. Havana is nice because there are many chicas you can pu on the streets, parks and public areas that are non-pros; they will go with you cause their family needs the$$-much more so than in Cartagena. Both places are good for parties but Cuba is lacking in many of the basics from the US embargo. Ie. Bring your own Rye whisky and their coke is crap. You can't go wrong with either palce but if you decide to go to Havana and need a contact you can pm me; I also have friends who own a Hotel in Cartagena thats chica friendly.

BTW I plan to be in Cartagena next month and Cuba in June; good luck and stay safe.

[QUOTE=Paracite; 1262783]I will likely be making a monger vaca from June 29. July 4th and am waffling between Havana and Cartagena, I would love to hear some insight from seasoned mongers. As a bit of background, I have been to Medellin 3 times and Cartagena 2 times already, and speak enough basic spanish that I have never needed a translator or had difficulty communicating in Colombia.

I am thinking about Cartagena or Havana because I love the working girl bar scene such as LDV and Electra, and it seems like La Cecilia and Salon Rojo would be similar types of scenes.

How would you rate the non-mongering activities in Havana vs Cartagena? I like to sight see, and hit the beach and relax during the daytime, maybe snorkel or jet ski, etc. Also, while on vacation I do sample "partying" a bit with the see readily in Colombia, is it possible to "party" at all in Cuba or is that a death wish?

Any advice or opinions would be greatly appreciated. I'll definitely post a trip report and pics from wherever I go. Thanks![/QUOTE]

Well. It was a choice between CTG or Blackbeards, I hadn't been to either. Decided to hit CTG. HIt town Thursday, caught a cab to one of Juans apts. Hit the store got some basics, the apt didn't have toliet paper or soap, plus some beer and aguadiente. Hit the shower and hit the beach. Ran into the infamous Tony. He had a cutie in tow, maybe a 7. I tried to get around his BS by paying cash for each beer. Paind 200000 for the chica. After talking and drinking awhile. Good service bbbbj, hit all the positions, I was satisfied. Relaxed for awhile hit the famous LDV. Some hotties, but serious pros! Pulled a cutie, an 8 or 9. No bbbbj. Good, but professional service.

Next day hit the beach again, passed by Tony and drank at Bonys for awhile. They called a girl, but I wasnt interested. Tony came down and harrassed me! LOL! Ended up back at Tonys because he had some hot girls. All in all, six girls in 3 days. The three I got from Tony were the best. Hes a royal pain in the ass, but hes got hot girls and theyre usually pretty cool. I'm guessing theyre semi pros. I took 2 from LDV and 1 from a casa called something Marina, I'm not sure where it was but it was far as hell!

I hit Tu Candelas and Isis. TU candelas was dead, Isis was expensive and I really didn't dig the vibe. The walled city was cool. All in all, I have to say I had more fun in Medellin. However, I'm glad I made it to CTG. Nothing like seeing it for yourself! Peace!

I spent a long 12 days in Cartagena and had spent time between flying solo and having my wife with me. I arrived on a Sunday afternoon and found out that my wife moved to Monteria and is renting out our house and business out to friends. It turns out she makes a good profit by living in a less expensive city. I just do not understand Colombia women and why they think it is better not to tell me important things, but rather find out later. She joined me though on Monday night.

Because I had Sunday and most of Monday available to have some fun, I decided to see what Tony had available. Early in the afternoon, he found Isis (photo attached, hopefully) She had red streaks in here hair and sported enhanced 36 Ds and I swear butt implants. She quoted 300K, which I refused. She countered with 250K, but would stay with me all night. Reluctantly I agreed and off to the apartment. I rented one of Juan's apartments in the Marinare building and it had a great bed. Isis is more enhanced than I like and I normally go for the slender girls with a smaller ass. But there was something about her smile, laugh and face that I found enchanting. She gave me a full massage with her breast and then followed-up by kissing me head to toe. She guided my fingers to her ass and wanted me to fully engage her asshole. I could feel her muscles open and contract to accept my ring finger. She whispered she would do anal for another 100K. I did not feel up for that so I just layed back and relaxed when she gave me a tongue massage. Over the next six hours we cuddled, fucked and I came at least three times in her mouth. One thing that scared me though was she pulled off the condom and inserted my bare dick. She got in about fix or six strokes when I noticed I was bareback with her and pulled out. I am 57 years old and do not need a child younger than my grandchildren. After the six hour date, we went out for something to eat and heads turned our way as headed to the back of the restaurant. We were at a back table and she faced away from the other patrons. She would smile and rub my cock with her feet and then stick her tongue into the side of her cheek simulating a blow job. She would then laugh. It was a great time with her. Although 250K was high for a beach girl, she did make it worth my time. She left around 9pm. Three hours later, I saw her at LDV.

After a nap, shower and some OJ, I headed to the casino and LDV. I caught up with some of the local friends at the casino and snuck over to LDV. I snuck over because they know my wife. My wife doesn't mind me spending time with the LDV girls, she just doesn't want to lose face with her friends. Just as long as I am discreet, she is OK with it. After speaking with ISIS for a bit, I let Isis know I am there to see what else is available. Isis was cool and introduced me to a few other girls. None caught my eye. I was about to leave when I saw Marie who was wearing shorts and a T-Shirt. For LDV, very casual. She was a student and was about to leave because she had a test the next day and did not want to be too tired. She said she would spend three hours with me for for 150K. She obviously was not there every night and only was available on a part-time basis to earn a little spending money. She was average build with nice 34 Bs and a small ass. She had a little baby fat, but nothing outrages. She gave one of the best blow jobs I have had. I swear, Colombian girls must have to take classes in how to give head because they all seem to be experts. She stayed for two and a half hours which was OK for me because I was ready for sleep.

On Monday morning, I headed to Olympica to stock up on supplies and get ready for my wife. She finally arrived around 7:00 pm. For the next few days, it was normal husband and wife things and going to the casino or relaxing at the pool. On Thursday, my stepson arrived from Monteria, so I spent time with him. I took him down to the beach and Tony remembered him as a small boy, not this 6 foot tall 14 year old. I had to tell Tony not to ask him if he wanted a girl or coke or other vices Tony has availabel. Tony was a little agressive this trip and was sniffing quite a bit. Must be coked up. Thursday and Friday was spent taking my stepson to the mall for clothes, McDonalds, and the cinema. Friday night we went to the Hard Rock for some overpriced food. We then headed backtothe apartment around 10:00pm.

My wife was ready to hit the casino, so we poured some Chivas into a plastic bottle and walked into the casino. The Chivas lasted us a few hours to get us to lose at the roulette whee. I had enough of roulette and started watching the poker table. There was a very attractive girl playing poker and was with some other beautiful girls going back and forth between the casino and LDV. She noticed I was watching and she introduced herself by giving her name Paola with a nice smile. She spoke English and told me she was having a good time watching my wife play roulette. My wife likes to have a good time and the people that work in the casino knows my wife very well. She has a great sense of humor and everyone around her laughs when she is around. Soon my wife and I headed to the BlackJack tables to change our luck. After winning a few hands and up about $50. 00, Paola joined us at the table. Soon she was winning also and when my wife went to the cashier to put her winnings into her account, Paola did not play until my wife returned. Paola is from Bogota with long legs and even longer brown hair and light skin. She carried herself like somebody that had grown up with class and money. She had an attitude of a girl from Manhattan. There were at least five guys trying to impress her and try to get her to leave. She would just wave them off after a few minutes. We had played for a long time and soon it was closing time. Both my wife and I were pretty well lit and I was surprised as we were leaving Paola was walking with us down the stairs and got into the backseat with my wife. Soon we were heading to an after hours club. After a drink none of us needed, my wife and Paola headed to the bathroom. When they returned, they talked a bit and then Paola leaned towards me and told me in English that my wife asked Paola if she wanted to go someplace and have sex with us. Paola told me that whe was not a working girl, but if I would pay for a room and breakfast afterwards, she would agree. Well I never ran as fast to the door to hail a cab in my life (not even in my teens) with my wife and Paola on each arm. We arrived at one of the sex motels up the hill not far from the airport. I wished I had not had so much to drink because the sight of Paola's body was just something out of Playboy or more like Penthouse. She definetly was not a girl next door. She has a slim waist but a nice round ass with 36 Cs and of course her long brown hair and full lips. The three of us spent a few hours having fun and it suprised me a bit that my wife enjoyed women as much as she did with Paola. We ate breakfast and dropped Paola off at her hotel and we headed back to Laquito. Our son had already been swimming and was hungry for lunch. I thought what the hell and realized it was 1:00 pm the next day. I gave him enough money for lunch and dinner and headed to bed. Both my wife and I slept until it was getting dark. A wasted day. NOT.

The next few days were spent quietly and my wife told me they had to head back to Monteria on Monday morning. I happened to go down to the lobby when I ran into Claudia, one of the girls I met on the street two years earlier. She greeted me with a big hug and asked if I would be interested in her and her 18 year old sister. I said I would meet up with them later when my wife left. My wife left on Monday which meant I had the next three days for play. I was hopingto run into Paola, but no such luck. Just as well, nothing could have happened that would have topped the previous time spentg with her. I went to the beach and Tony left me alone for a fe hours so that I could relax and play in the water. When I was ready to head back to the apartment, Tony would not let me leave until he got me a girl. A few I did not like, but he soon found some 18. 19 year old girls that looked like they were just tourists. Hell, they looked like they were ready to go to Disney than ready to suck mydick and balls. Real petite and just innocent looking. Innocent until they quoted 200K for one hour. I said what! No way, I countered with 200K for three hours, but they stuck with one hour. As much as I wanted to dive into them, I could not agree to just one hour. I headed back to the apartment, but by the time I got there, Tony had sent another girl, Maris. Maris agreed to stay three hours for 175K. Maris had a baby three months ago and later I found out she was still breast feeding when I got a shot of milk in my mouth. She had a nice slender body with great tits and no sign of just giving birth a few months ago. Maris was so cute and was just a gentle person and asked me if it was OK if she could kiss my dick. Of course I said and once again she proved to be a good student in cock sucking. I walked her down and quickly got into a taxi because her mother worked in the Atlantis building across the street. Pictured with her panties on.

I headed to Riquisimos for the sixth time that trip and the waiter knew me and my wife very well. When he found out I was alone, he grinned and said the devil can now come out and play. He knows me all too well. On the way back I ran into Sandra, Claudia and bher sister sitting out in front of a small internet cafe. There was also another girl whose name I did not get, but was slim with the best ass I have seen in awhile. She is 18 and always wears a hat. Claudia later came over with another very petite girl. She was about 5 foot weighing about 85 lbs. She was 21 years old and gave great head just like she was taught. She showed me a picture of her 7 year old daughter and I commented you had her when you were 14 and she just grinned and stated she liked sex at an early age with all the boys in the barrio.

Over the next few days, I spent time Claudia and her sister. I have spent time previously with Sandra, but I wanted something new. Claudia was only in town for a few weeks and left for Medellin this past Sunday. Her sister is just a fun girl with great lips and flat stomach. Claudia is shorter than her sister, but has a better face and better tits. My last night in town, Claudia and her sister came over and gave me a massage and BJ, each time I would give 100K each. Claudia then headed out for about ten minutes while her sister and I finished and got cleaned up. Claudia returned with groceries to prepare me dinner since it was my last night in town. While Claudia cooked pasta, her sister danced with me and we took pictures and videos. They left, but Claudia returned around 11:00 pm to spend the night for 100K. In the morning, she went to the airport with me to wish me a good voyage. Claudia and I have been friends for two years and we provide each other what we both need, me companioship when my wife is gone and her money. She never even looks at what I give her and just accepts. Usually 100K.

Overall, this trip was one on the best trips, but 12 days is too much. By the last night when Claudia was blowing me, I almost asked her to stop and just lay next to me. Notice I said almost. Tony is getting some very cute girls, but at 200K I told him not to bother me especially if for only one hour. It seems the out of town girls are expecting too much for little time, while the local and street girls are still very economical and accomodating. As I type, all I can hink of is Paola and my wife giving each other oral and then turning their attention to me. It is a memory that will last forever. Now back in the midwest, it is very difficult to work with such a big smile on my face.

I hope I upload the pictures correctly.

To all good hunting and Buenos Noches.

Claudia, Isis, Maris from report below.

[QUOTE=Otiers;1263700]Claudia, Isis, Maris from report below.[/QUOTE]Awesome report. Awesome photos! I will file that away for my next trip in May.

[QUOTE=Otiers;1263686]I spent a long 12 days in Cartagena .To all good hunting and Buenos Noches.[/QUOTE]Hey Otiers, enjoyed the read; thanks for sharing. Glad to see that you had a fun, safe trip. Sorry to hear that Tony's sniffles are back heavily. I'll take some cotton balls down with me and offer them to him. When he asks WTF, I'll tell him to plug up his nose so I don't have to listen to it. He'll grunt and say something derogatory, then ask me for a shot off my bottle and all will be well. LOL.

Take care,

HT

[QUOTE=Otiers;1263686]As I type, all I can hink of is Paola and my wife giving each other oral and then turning their attention to me.[/QUOTE]Diablo! Did you bareback Paola?

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1263792]Diablo! Did you bareback Paola?[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, no I did not bareback Paola. I didn't even try, because of the way she carried herself at the casino and in private, I knew there would not be a chance for that. Actually, I did not mind because of the classy way she acted.

Usually how many prof chicas in LD Vida? Elekra? Tu candela? Are they smoke filled places?

Which are the apartament building (condominium) close Hollywood beach and LD Vida that are quieter and silent at the night?

In the end of November about girls a lot or few?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Alexsandro; 1264303]Usually how many prof chicas in LD Vida? Elekra? Tu candela? Are they smoke filled places?

Which are the apartament building (condominium) close Hollywood beach and LD Vida that are quieter and silent at the night?

In the end of November about girls a lot or few?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Ldv has a lot of girls, much more than the number of guys. There is no smoking allowed in the bar.

The apartments in laguito are all close to ldv and playa Hollywood, contact Juan ventura or mery for apartments in that area. Search the forum for their contact info

I am spending 4 to 5 days. Looking for something simple, Any suggestions.

[QUOTE=George7421;1265126]I am spending 4 to 5 days. Looking for something simple, Any suggestions.[/QUOTE]Phase 1: RTFF.

[QUOTE=Otiers;1263700]Claudia, Isis, Maris from report below.[/QUOTE]Nice! That girl with the red streaks in her hair has a cousin from Cali 18 years old, perhaps the prettiest black girl I have ever seen a 10 for sure.

Cartagena (especially laguito) looks like an armed camp. 5000 extra police / military for the americas conference. Supposedly all the US delegation (Obama's coming) staying at the Hilton. Chavez, etc. Also here. Plus mucho Colombians for Easter, word is Jesus is coming to the conference too.

[QUOTE=LocoGringo;1266157]Cartagena (especially laguito) looks like an armed camp. 5000 extra police / military for the americas conference. Supposedly all the US delegation (Obama's coming) staying at the Hilton. Chavez, etc. Also here. Plus mucho Colombians for Easter, word is Jesus is coming to the conference too.[/QUOTE]All the beach vendors aren't allowed on the beach either only hotel guests and no umbrellas, or cabanas.

Are people still having issues bringing in girls to the Mirador del Laguito? It seems like 1year ago it was a bit of an issue, but subsided quickly. I want to make sure that is not going to be an issue, as I plan to do a You Can-eque epic blowout in Cartagena.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1266156]Nice! That girl with the red streaks in her hair has a cousin from Cali 18 years old, perhaps the prettiest black girl I have ever seen a 10 for sure.[/QUOTE]Can you pm me the black girls cell number, assuming its okay. I would like a nice contact next time in Cartagena. Or please advise how I can find her.

Thanks.

LH

Just heard that La Ley Seca is in force this weekend here in Cartagena due to the Summit of the Americas. Absolute bummer. A visit to Barranquilla is called for, I'd say.

A

[QUOTE=Paracite;1266607]Are people still having issues bringing in girls to the Mirador del Laguito? It seems like 1year ago it was a bit of an issue, but subsided quickly. I want to make sure that is not going to be an issue, as I plan to do a You Can-eque epic blowout in Cartagena.[/QUOTE]Friends stayed there this year and did not have a chivca problem. Juan V told me they have a new administrator.

I bet every male US Secret Service Agent volunteered for this duty for the opportunity to meet some local Colombian women and culture. It's too bad that someone had to rat them out. I guess we won't be getting a "trip report" from any of them.

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Secret Service Agents Sent Home from Summit for Alleged Misconduct.

Updated: Friday. 13 Apr 2012, 9:20 PM CDT.

Published : Friday. 13 Apr 2012, 9:14 PM CDT.

(NewsCore). A number of US Secret Service agents tasked with protecting President Barack Obama during his trip to Colombia for the Summit of the Americas have been sent home amid allegations of misconduct, The Washington Post reported.

Federal Law Enforcement Officers Association president Jon Adler told the newspaper the accusations include at least one agent being involved with a prostitute in Cartagena, where the president arrived Friday.

Secret Service spokesman Edwin Donovan declined to confirm what the allegations involved, but said in a statement that "the Secret Service takes all allegations of misconduct seriously" and the incident was being investigated by the agency's Office of Professional Responsibility.

Donovan did not specify how many agents were involved, nor how many had been recalled from Colombia.

"These personnel changes will not affect the comprehensive security plan that has been prepared in advance of the President's trip," his statement said.

The Post said it was alerted to the misconduct by journalist Ronald Kessler, who has written a book on the Secret Service. Kessler said as many as 12 agents had been sent home.

Kessler said soliciting prostitutes is legal in Colombia, but was considered inappropriate by the Secret Service.

Obama flew into Colombia on Friday afternoon for the Americas summit, which is set to be attended by leaders from throughout the region.

Another story said 12 were sent home. How'd ya like to be on Bill Clinton's detail? Now that's some nice work. But under any administration, this has probably been going on for a long long time.

[QUOTE=Slippery;1268804]Another story said 12 were sent home. How'd ya like to be on Bill Clinton's detail? Now that's some nice work. But under any administration, this has probably been going on for a long long time.[/QUOTE]It seems shocking but it isn't. I took my nephew to Cartagena in March 2011, he was just graduating college, blonde hair blue eyes he stuck out like a sore thumb. I thought I made myself perfectly clear about what the deal was about our upcoming trip because I convinced him to come with me to Cartagena instead of Cancun. Each one of my nephews I lectured they need to each come with me on one trip before they get married and see what the real world has instore for them rather than to get brainwashed into getting married and having a big fat wife a few years later. Anyway the whole way down I am telling him about the beach, clubs and such, we get there to the beach its packed full of chics, I introduce him to at least 10 different girls. I had no plans to hook him up with any at that time because I had to get him a phone yet before the store closed because we were going to Carnaval the next day, as we we leaving the beach he comes running up behind me like his sneakers were on fire calling my name, I turned around and said," What? ", he says I think we could have had some of those girls back in our apartment, I spit my beer all over him and said, " We could have had them all back in our apartment, " as I laughed until I almost passed out. He looked at me with the dumbest look on his face all confused, later I took him to the LDV and he finally understood what the score was. Unless you see it for yourself you can't comprehend how different it is from the USA. The agents were just enjoying themselves!

While I take advantage of opportunities just like any other red-bloodied male, I take a hard line on the Secret Service agents' Columbia caper. If you have prostitutes, you will have cocaine, etc. The agents went to Cartagena to protect the president and not party. End of story.

[QUOTE=Vittu;1268893]While I take advantage of opportunities just like any other red-bloodied male, I take a hard line on the Secret Service agents' Columbia caper. If you have prostitutes, you will have cocaine, etc. The agents went to Cartagena to protect the president and not party. End of story.[/QUOTE]Learn how to spell Colombia before you comment too much about your Cartagena expertise.

I always admire an educated man from the hills.

[QUOTE=Vittu;1268893]While I take advantage of opportunities just like any other red-bloodied male, I take a hard line on the Secret Service agents' Columbia caper. If you have prostitutes, you will have cocaine, etc. The agents went to Cartagena to protect the president and not party. End of story.[/QUOTE]Lighten up Francis.

Let the agent have some fun on his down time.

"if you have prostitutes, you will have cocaine, etc"

Really? Of course not.

If you have prostitutes, you will almost certainly get laid. End of story.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1268948]Lighten up Francis.

Let the agent have some fun on his down time.

"if you have prostitutes, you will have cocaine, etc"

Really? Of course not.

If you have prostitutes, you will almost certainly get laid. End of story.[/QUOTE]Ricker,

Great response. I wonder if our friends Sandra and Claudia got in on the action. Could have been big bucks for the street girls that stay at the Atlantis. I laugh when I picture a dozen agents walking into LDV with their sun glasses and trench coats and trying to be cool talking up the girls. I bet they overpaid also. I know it is not reality, but on a rainy Saturday morning, I need a laugh.

I better be careful what I write about them, because they could show up at my doorstep by lunch time.

"One of the agents did not pay one of the prostitutes, and she complained to the police," said Ronald Kessler, a former Washington Post reporter and author of "In the President's Secret Service: Behind the Scenes With Agents in the Line of Fire and the Presidents They Protect."

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1268971]"One of the agents did not pay one of the prostitutes, and she complained to the police," said Ronald Kessler, a former Washington Post reporter and author of "In the President's Secret Service: Behind the Scenes With Agents in the Line of Fire and the Presidents They Protect."[/QUOTE]That's right, biatch! This is CO-LOM-BI-A, not the USofA where the domestic LE doesn't have to pay for the "services."

I wonder if any of them is dumb enough to put LDV on their expense reports.

[QUOTE=Vittu;1268893]If you have prostitutes, you will have cocaine, etc.[/QUOTE]I am author of 570 reports on ISG. If the average is 2-3 reports per experience, I have reported about 250+ experiences with working ladies (gosh! I never counted! :eek: ). I never tried cocaine in my life though. Thumbs up for those guys out of the sex prison.
PS: and yes, learn this is COLOMBIA. In Columbia you go to prison if you give 50 bucks to a girl.

Yeah, guys, have it your way. But these Secret Service guys have destroyed their careers. And rightly so. For getting involved with prostitutes in a country where drug gangs dominate. Through their stupidity they committed a major security breach and made themselves and their mission vulnerable. A punter may not understand this because he is only after pussy and not protecting the president. 'Nuff said.

[QUOTE=Vittu;1269128]Yeah, guys, have it your way. But these Secret Service guys have destroyed their careers. And rightly so. For getting involved with prostitutes in a country where drug gangs dominate. Through their stupidity they committed a major security breach and made themselves and their mission vulnerable. A punter may not understand this because he is only after pussy and not protecting the president. 'Nuff said.[/QUOTE]The reports add up to the same sort of newbie mistakes you can read about here every day. Talking $$ AFTER the deed is done instead of before, making a scene instead of handing over money to end a bad situation quietly, drinking too much to be able to think cleaerly and protect yourself, allowing police involvement etc etc. There are lessons to be learned. These guys probably see it the same way by now. Ruining their careers was not worth saving money or "showing who is in charge." Some of the lucky ones will probably be able to get away with demotions and suspensions but some of them are fucked. They are going to wind up in low end private security jobs and possibly lose their government pensions.

[QUOTE=Vittu;1269128]Yeah, guys, have it your way. But these Secret Service guys have destroyed their careers. And rightly so. For getting involved with prostitutes in a country where drug gangs dominate. Through their stupidity they committed a major security breach and made themselves and their mission vulnerable. A punter may not understand this because he is only after pussy and not protecting the president. 'Nuff said.[/QUOTE]Yep. Very disappointing to know some of our very best suffer from "dum cop" syndrome.

Every once in a while, I notice a poster on the board who appears to be writing from many different locales. I wonder what kind of cool job he has that enables to work, make money, and travel to various exotic locales to sample the local talent. Perhaps, the answer is we have some SS guys on ISG?

Since, it has been reported that twelve were sent home, we can expect a Judas in the group. I think we can expect more tawdry revelations as the investigation proceeds. Who knows, maybe they will subpoena ISG reports. Now, that would be fun.

[QUOTE=Slippery;1268804]Another story said 12 were sent home. How'd ya like to be on Bill Clinton's detail? Now that's some nice work. But under any administration, this has probably been going on for a long long time.[/QUOTE]

This is what happened, according to the Wall Street Journal's detailed report that may be found at wsj. com:

"The Secret Service agents were caught when one of the women stayed in an agent's room past 7 a.m. in violation of hotel policy, said Rep. Peter King (R, N. Y.) , chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, which oversees the Secret Service. That agent initially refused to open his door for the hotel manager, which prompted the manager to call the police, who later reported the incident to the USA embassy, Mr. King said."

It was during this time that the woman refused to leave, claiming she had not been paid.

Thought I would look here to get a sense of the damage done by some of "America's best"! These knuckleheads are obviously green to the hobby, and I would suspect, not ISG card carrying members. At a minimum, you'd think they understood the true meaning of the word "secret"! Everything about this episode seems amateurish, from the wolf-pack approach to mongering, to bedding down in the same hotel as one's boss, to being oblivious to potential media scrutiny. Seems to me that it would have been much easier to pay more just to get rid of the girl, qietly! Any early home returnees will certainly have some sxplanin to do!

NYTimes' version a tad different sequence of events:

"The woman apparently began causing a disturbance in the hallway, eventually bringing other Secret Service agents — as well as a small number of law enforcement and military officials working with them on security and communications matters — out of their rooms and attracting the attention of hotel management and security."

I wouldn't be shock if the CIA are pulling these guys travel history right now and are sending a team out to interview local pimps and hookers and showing them these guys pictures to see have they paid or didn't paid for hookers services and what ages were they. They are going to dig deep into these guys past travel history by checking their passports stamps, phone calls, PC hard drives. You name it this is only the tip of things to come.

I am sure this wasn't the 1st time these guys was out hunting for hookers when they were on duty.

Kid Cisco

All this because the guy thought she was a "non-pro". Also, he probably had plenty of "game". A fitting punishment would be to banish him to the US for life.

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/04/14/world/americas/colombia-summit-secret-service/?hpt=hp_t2

[quote=chesrep001; 1269236]all this because the guy thought she was a "non-pro". also, he probably had plenty of "game". a fitting punishment would be to banish him to the us for life.

[url]http://edition.cnn.com/2012/04/14/world/americas/colombia-summit-secret-service/?hpt=hp_t2[/url][/quote]that makes sense. its not in the nature of secret service guys to stiff people. the poor fool probably had no experience with working girls and handled it like an idiot when the bill came due. somebody should send him an email to rtff and wise up.

Personally, this whole deal is humorous. Dumb ass chooses to fuck a Colombian girl, doesn't pay, and he is exposed. In no civilized Western Country in this world would this event be newsworthy. The real import of this "scandal" is to expose the remaining influence of Puritanism on the United States. Bottom line is if you treat people like he treated the sex worker. Didn't even want to pay her, then decisions have consequences.

Digressing, I believe the FARC is responsible. If it is not, it should damn claim credit. Now, that would be an interesting story, so I'm starting it here. It's highly possible. Thirty percent of the FARC are female, and some are hotter than any working girl in the city.

Only good energy!

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1268890]It seems shocking but it isn't. I took my nephew to Cartagena in March 2011, he was just graduating college, blonde hair blue eyes he stuck out like a sore thumb. I thought I made myself perfectly clear about what the deal was about our upcoming trip because I convinced him to come with me to Cartagena instead of Cancun. Each one of my nephews I lectured they need to each come with me on one trip before they get married and see what the real world has instore for them rather than to get brainwashed into getting married and having a big fat wife a few years later. Anyway the whole way down I am telling him about the beach, clubs and such, we get there to the beach its packed full of chics, I introduce him to at least 10 different girls. I had no plans to hook him up with any at that time because I had to get him a phone yet before the store closed because we were going to Carnaval the next day, as we we leaving the beach he comes running up behind me like his sneakers were on fire calling my name, I turned around and said," What? ", he says I think we could have had some of those girls back in our apartment, I spit my beer all over him and said, " We could have had them all back in our apartment, " as I laughed until I almost passed out. He looked at me with the dumbest look on his face all confused, later I took him to the LDV and he finally understood what the score was. Unless you see it for yourself you can't comprehend how different it is from the USA. The agents were just enjoying themselves![/QUOTE]Nice anecdote to make a good point. I agree. The SS agents are just having a good time during their free time. I don't understand why the Colombian police would report to US embassy though? That does not make sense. If one of us did that (not that we ever would) would the local police report to US embassy? One reason I can think of is if the SS agent acted like a jerk to the local police and tried to throw his weight around.

About SS, Even when they are travelling, they do get off duty. Who knows what happened? May be she demanded more than she agreed to and may be he did not have cash on him. I highly doubt if he thought she was a non-pro as someone else suggested. I can see your nephew thinking that but I doubt SS agents would be that naive.

Regarding your story about your nephew, I think it is cool what you are doing. Showing them the options. Would you do that with your son (if you had one of that age)?

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1269249]Personally, this whole deal is humorous. Dumb ass chooses to fuck a Colombian girl, doesn't pay, and he is exposed. In no civilized Western Country in this world would this event be newsworthy. The real import of this "scandal" is to expose the remaining influence of Puritanism on the United States. Bottom line is if you treat people like he treated the sex worker. Didn't even want to pay her, then decisions have consequences.

Digressing, I believe the FARC is responsible. If it is not, it should damn claim credit. Now, that would be an interesting story, so I'm starting it here. It's highly possible. Thirty percent of the FARC are female, and some are hotter than any working girl in the city.

Only good energy![/QUOTE]If she was FARC, she would have blown him. :-)

Why you know soo much? Really? Where you live at?

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1269249]Personally, this whole deal is humorous. Dumb ass chooses to fuck a Colombian girl, doesn't pay, and he is exposed. In no civilized Western Country in this world would this event be newsworthy. The real import of this "scandal" is to expose the remaining influence of Puritanism on the United States. Bottom line is if you treat people like he treated the sex worker. Didn't even want to pay her, then decisions have consequences.

Digressing, I believe the FARC is responsible. If it is not, it should damn claim credit. Now, that would be an interesting story, so I'm starting it here. It's highly possible. Thirty percent of the FARC are female, and some are hotter than any working girl in the city.

Only good energy![/QUOTE]

Kid,

You may be right, Authorities did look at the hotel register to see who checked-in female guests. This is good reason not to ever get your meat where you get your potatoes!

"A senior administration official briefed on the accusations against the Secret Service agents pulled from duty in Colombia tells ABC News that a heated argument between at least one of the alleged prostitutes and at least one of the Secret Service agents first alerted authorities of the Hotel Caribe in Cartagena to the cavorting between Secret Service agents and prostitutes.

The argument was a dispute over the bill for services rendered, the administration official said.

Hotel Caribe authorities went to investigate the ruckus and learned that there had been some activity between Secret Service agents and prostitutes, the senior administration official said.

Hotel authorities then went down to the reception desk to see who else of the American guests may have signed in female guests. Call girls. For the evening.

Initially, this official said, that inspection led the hotel authorities to have questions about 22 Americans. 17 Secret Service agents and five special operations soldiers who were there to assist the Secret Service. Their names were reported to the lead USA military official on the ground.

That is not to say that all 22 men had hired prostitutes, the administration official underlined. Some of those about whom the hotel raised questions may merely have been attending a party and violating curfew. Eleven Secret Service agents have been sent back to the United States. The five USA special forces members remain in Colombia, per the request of the Secret Service.

The State Department says that adult prostitution is legal in designated "tolerance zones" in Colombia, though restricting the sex trade to those zones has been difficult."Sexual tourism" is reportedly widespread in Cartagena and other coastal cities."

[QUOTE=Climaxnow;1269241]That makes sense. Its not in the nature of secret service guys to stiff people. The poor fool probably had no experience with working girls and handled it like an idiot when the bill came due. Somebody should send him an email to RTFF and wise up.[/QUOTE]Maybe he thought she liked him for his personality and good looks! Dude's favorite movie is "Pretty Woman" and he though he could convert her! It's like Dr. Dre said back on "The Chronic 2001" you can't make a hoe a house wife!

Hahah. What a maroon!

This makes no fucking sense!!!

In what universe is a government intelligence officer unable to positively identify a prostitute???

-Helpmann :(

[QUOTE=Vittu; 1269226]from the Wall Street Journal:

"The Secret Service agents were caught when one of the women stayed in an agent's room past 7 a. M. In violation of hotel policy, said Rep. Peter King (R, N. Y.) , chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, which oversees the Secret Service. That agent initially refused to open his door for the hotel manager, which prompted the manager to call the police, who later reported the incident to the USA embassy, Mr. King said."[/QUOTE]Not a word out of the mouth of this King is to be believed. Biggest cop lover in Congress, policeman's best friend. This happen to someone like yourself, King would be up on his high horse and have you thrown in lockdown. Mix business with pleasure, or too arrogant to know the difference, suffer the same rules as everybody else. No one knows this story until the girls start talking

[QUOTE=Helpmann; 1269390]This makes no fucking sense!

In what universe is a government intelligence officer unable to positively identify a prostitute?

-Helpmann.[/QUOTE]That's just not true. Back twenty years, I worked in San Paolo for six months. I remember the older guys from the states telling me how the girls would solicit by pretending to be sincerely interested them. These guys were well educated currency traders and there desire to get laid blinded them from reality. Secret Service guys have huge ego's and generally speaking do not use prostitutes. It is really possible that some idiot of the bunch sincerely thought the girl liked him.

I work for myself and when I have the time and money I travel to DR, Central America, South America and SE Asia. As per the girl being FARC, nope. Maybe one of Tony's girls? Hahahahahaha

[QUOTE=Helpmann; 1269390]This makes no fucking sense!

In what universe is a government intelligence officer unable to positively identify a prostitute?

-Helpmann.[/QUOTE]If I had a dollar for every time a wingman of mine was convinced he had a Cartagena non pro and then after sex she demanded money I would own Laguito. I know one guy who lives there that is after non pros and still hasn't found one, maybe he should change his pick up lines.

[QUOTE=Climaxnow;1269418]That's just not true. Back twenty years, I worked in San Paolo for six months. I remember the older guys from the states telling me how the girls would solicit by pretending to be sincerely interested them. These guys were well educated currency traders and there desire to get laid blinded them from reality. Secret Service guys have huge ego's and generally speaking do not use prostitutes. It is really possible that some idiot of the bunch sincerely thought the girl liked him.[/QUOTE]It is not just that these guys are government intelligence, a lot of these guys are military. The military practically invented international mongering. In many instances, brothels, streets, and neighborhoods exist because a military base was close by.

Therefore, it is very, very, hard to believe that best and brightest international sex hounds, the secret service, would make a newbie mistake on such a big stage.

-Helpmann :)

[QUOTE=Climaxnow;1269418]That's just not true. Back twenty years, I worked in San Paolo for six months. I remember the older guys from the states telling me how the girls would solicit by pretending to be sincerely interested them. These guys were well educated currency traders and there desire to get laid blinded them from reality. Secret Service guys have huge ego's and generally speaking do not use prostitutes. It is really possible that some idiot of the bunch sincerely thought the girl liked him.[/QUOTE]That's exactly what I think happened but we will never know the real truth. Because we as mongers see prostitutes regularly we think that any guy should be dialed in to the scene and that's simply not the case especially when dealing with girls from a city such as Cartagena, some of these girls are very slick. My bet would be that he picked her up in a club and took her back to his room never discussing money until the deed was done and she asked for el dinero. Also there is the alcohol factor, he may have been drunk or a little buzzed and got caught up in the moment. Either way, this event will cast a dark shadow on Colombia in a lot of peoples eyes that haven't been to Colombia unfortunately.

[QUOTE=Helpmann; 1269435]It is not just that these guys are government intelligence, a lot of these guys are military. The military practically invented international mongering. In many instances, brothels, streets, and neighborhoods exist because a military base was close by.

Therefore, it is very, very, hard to believe that best and brightest international sex hounds, the secret service, would make a newbie mistake on such a big stage.

-Helpmann.[/QUOTE]Oh it makes sense, especially if they were staying at Hotel Caribe which isn't a chica friendly Hotel to begin with. The dude ran into a hard core pro and she called the cops after not getting paid, the hotel checked the register and found at least 12 other guys registered girls also, I think there is alot more than that but time will tell. Some Colombians hate gringos to begin with, just think about that Mirador administator that fucking kunt, hope she drowned in the pool. Ever want to see gringo haters visit Caracus once.

[QUOTE=Helpmann; 1269390]This makes no fucking sense!

In what universe is a government intelligence officer unable to positively identify a prostitute?

-Helpmann.[/QUOTE]In a universe that an individual officer hasn't been exposed to a Cartagena, Colombian prostitute. Anybody that has been to Cartagena knows that some of the prepagos working the bars and streets in that city can come on as just a pretty face to someone that has never been there. Cartagena isn't Pattaya, Thailand or Sosua, DR where ALL the girls are openly selling their wares, some (not all) of the girls in Cartagena try to fly under the radar. It happened to me on my first trip to the city, I met a girl in a bar and I honestly did not know she was a h00ker. Fortunately I was with someone who lived there and he straightened me out on what was going on. I think there is a very good possibility that this what happened because of the city in which it happened.

What a storm in a teacup."Americans went to Colombia and had sex for pay with Colombianas". Americans of all ages and careers have been bedding chicas from less sex-starved destinations for centuries with the occurrence of many more serious incidents. Why this one has achieved the coverage it has is a mystery to me. It would be interesting to know.

Thanks, guys, for all this local information. It helps me understand what the current Secret Service flap is all about. I've never been to Colombia, but will certainly put it on my list!

-J

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1269443]In a universe that an individual officer hasn't been exposed to a Cartagena, Colombian prostitute. Anybody that has been to Cartagena knows that some of the prepagos working the bars and streets in that city can come on as just a pretty face to someone that has never been there. Cartagena isn't Pattaya, Thailand or Sosua, DR where ALL the girls are openly selling their wares, some (not all) of the girls in Cartagena try to fly under the radar. It happened to me on my first trip to the city, I met a girl in a bar and I honestly did not know she was a h00ker. Fortunately I was with someone who lived there and he straightened me out on what was going on. I think there is a very good possibility that this what happened because of the city in which it happened.[/QUOTE]I would also like to add that Secret Service guys easily get laid in the States with there good looks and prestigious job. Unfortunately, that does not mean they are familiar with the social nuances of women in foreign cities. When the director realized the use of prostitutes was prevalent among his men, he was left with no choice but to recall all the agents and not compromise the security of the President. This poor guy probably stood up for what he thought was right, not realizing the gigantic clusterfuck he was creating.

Come on guys who are we kidding. These guys are secret service agents. It is their business to do "Secret Service." You are not only fooling yourself but you are just wanting to be plain ignorant. I don't understand your thinking process.

This happens all the time. If some one wants to think this way through then you can surely come to conclusion that this report only gives the Secret Service Agents a bad name but also does many other things which I have no reason to elaborate on this board as it can and will be only argumentative.

Think. Think. And Think some more before giving the US SECRET SERVICE the benefit of doubt on this or any other matter.

Regards,

John.

[QUOTE=Climaxnow;1269481]I would also like to add that Secret Service guys easily get laid in the States with there good looks and prestigious job. Unfortunately, that does not mean they are familiar with the social nuances of women in foreign cities. When the director realized the use of prostitutes was prevalent among his men, he was left with no choice but to recall all the agents and not compromise the security of the President. This poor guy probably stood up for what he thought was right, not realizing the gigantic clusterfuck he was creating.[/QUOTE]

Just a thought from the fearless leader of home land security. He stated that is "compromised the security of the president". I guess getting layed at night and off work is a going to lead to some potentially bad problems. The guy wasn't there yet and I don't think they would be talking to the chicas about the itinary of the president. It just made to much noise so they panicked and called them home. After all with a stiff dick, you know how the mouth will talk. What we needed was a few senators or congressman there and then see what happens.

[QUOTE=John; 1269516]Come on guys who are we kidding. These guys are secret service agents. It is their business to do "Secret Service." You are not only fooling yourself but you are just wanting to be plain ignorant. I don't understand your thinking process.

This happens all the time. If some one wants to think this way through then you can surely come to conclusion that this report only gives the Secret Service Agents a bad name but also does many other things which I have no reason to elaborate on this board as it can and will be only argumentative.

Think. Think. And Think some more before giving the US SECRET SERVICE the benefit of doubt on this or any other matter.

Regards,

John.[/QUOTE]So what your saying is that a Secret Service agent of incredible credibility decided to cheat a working girl or are you saying this chicka conspired to scandalize the secret service. So much easier to believe that love led a man down a foolish road.

[QUOTE=Helpmann; 1269390]This makes no fucking sense!

In what universe is a government intelligence officer unable to positively identify a prostitute?

-Helpmann.[/QUOTE]Agree. The only ones that are saying that are ISG members. None of the news outlets ever said that it was a casual one night stand that went bad.

It is humorous to try and guess what might have happened, speculate, agree or contradict but at the end of the day most of us would have to agree that this is bad news for those that like to monger in Colombia and try to do it under the radar.

I blame the assholes at the hotel management squarely for this."Disputes" can happen unexpectedly and sometimes you can't control them. The guy did not beat her up or was violent. It was a disputed bill for crying out loud. The hotel management should know how to handle it and they had no reason to start checking the registrations of other guests. How ridiculous is that? The guys manning the desk at night let them in and the guy during the day obviously got pissed and took it out on the guests. If they were going to be so prissy about it, they should have not let them in the night before. What a cluster fuck.

I feel bad for the SS agent. My sympathies are with him.

Chicas were supposedly from Pleyboy Club. 7-9 guys there. Arguement over how much one was charging in the morning, has happened to many, including myself. Proabably shouldn't have been a big deal, just press looking for anything to get print. Please, met some of these guys plus DEA and FBI that are stationed in Cartagena (lots there, look at the bldg) , most were good guys, like to get laid (La Dolce often) some assholes, probably like this forum. That was years ago when I opened Loco Gringo Cafe and was probably looking for a reason they were wrong, per my other life. One friend tells me that he can't go to Cartagena anymore because noone will believe he was fishing, Please, take the pussy out of Colombia and how many would go there? For the beaches? Medellin countryside? GOD save Colombian pussy.

[QUOTE=LocoGringo;1269571]Chicas were supposedly from Pleyboy Club. 7-9 guys there. Arguement over how much one was charging in the morning, has happened to many, including myself.[/QUOTE]If that's the case, than the guy is a complete idiot for not negotiating his girl before services. What fool does that? Even if he got himself a really rotten one, you always have to be prepared to take the short end of the stick in the hobby.

Now congress is going to investigate the whole thing. The agents were at Hotel Caribe and it is not a chica friendly Hotel.

[QUOTE=Climaxnow;1269585]If that's the case, than the guy is a complete idiot for not negotiating his girl before services. What fool does that? Even if he got himself a really rotten one, you always have to be prepared to take the short end of the stick in the hobby.[/QUOTE]He got the short and long end, probably suprised too. They were staying at the Caribe, chica has to leave her cedula at the front desk until leaving. Guys I know did takeout there (Pleyboy) last month. 100+ takeout fee and 160+ for chica, that is some expensive Colombian pussy, even before he got busted.

They made it so damn hard we have to leave the country to hobby somwhere and when you busted with a hoe all your day is fucked. L love it when these people are busted, police, secrect service agent, fBI and of them. Can, t get no action, cus the police have clean out the streets and don, t have money to travel somewhere too

Many on the board are very easily giving the benefit of the doubt to the Secret Service Agents. What I am clearly saying is that it is their business to know that in Cartagena their are working girls all over.

Come on it is not like just one guy got lucky that night. All 12 of them got lucky. That is just not possible that all 12 of them didn't know what they were getting into.

I think it can be clearly thought that from this day onwards any body wanting to travel to Colombia at least for next one to two years will not be able to make lame excuses about why they are planning to go to Colombia.

LOL. More chicks for us non US residents.

Regards,

John.

[QUOTE=Climaxnow;1269524]So what your saying is that a Secret Service agent of incredible credibility decided to cheat a working girl or are you saying this chicka conspired to scandalize the secret service. So much easier to believe that love led a man down a foolish road.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Climaxnow;1269481]I would also like to add that Secret Service guys easily get laid in the States with there good looks and prestigious job. Unfortunately, that does not mean they are familiar with the social nuances of women in foreign cities. When the director realized the use of prostitutes was prevalent among his men, he was left with no choice but to recall all the agents and not compromise the security of the President. This poor guy probably stood up for what he thought was right, not realizing the gigantic clusterfuck he was creating.[/QUOTE]Sport fucking compromises the El Presedente? Give me a break! Would anyone in the Western world give even a rat's ass if the Presidential agents of any world leader were getting laid while off duty? Of course not. What this has generated on this thread is a defense, or at least attempted observations of the mental processes of the agents, followed by an explanation of the perceived just result arising from the event. Frankly, the hypocritical responses are disappointing but obvious.

Why hasn't the administration simply said that the sexual lives of the Secret Service agents while off duty is of no concern of the President. A strong argument can be made that sex makes one happy, and the President deserves to have happy people protecting him. I'm damn sure not going on the record to suggest that fucking ever endangered anyone. Man, throw off and reject the Puritan influence in America. Come out of the closet, support the secret service, support our fellow mongers (they learned the hard way that there's no free pussy) , and stop trying to justify any harm to them for doing what we all do.

But, maybe I'm wrong. I didn't understand that secret service agents took an oath of celibacy. Maybe it's the puta involvement that triggered the outrage. Some of you guys sound like "them." You'll fuck'em, but agree with them being degraded. Well, fuck you!

Only good energy!

[QUOTE=John; 1269516]Come on guys who are we kidding. These guys are secret service agents. It is their business to do "Secret Service." You are not only fooling yourself but you are just wanting to be plain ignorant. I don't understand your thinking process.

This happens all the time. If some one wants to think this way through then you can surely come to conclusion that this report only gives the Secret Service Agents a bad name but also does many other things which I have no reason to elaborate on this board as it can and will be only argumentative.

Think. Think. And Think some more before giving the US SECRET SERVICE the benefit of doubt on this or any other matter.

Regards,

John.[/QUOTE]Well said, John. Agreed!

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1269442]Some Colombians hate gringos to begin with, just think about that Mirador administator that fucking kunt, hope she drowned in the pool. Ever want to see gringo haters visit Caracus once.[/QUOTE]Yep ABC reported the staff at Hotel Caribe got irratated by all the Putas going threw the lobby.

[QUOTE=John; 1269636]Many on the board are very easily giving the benefit of the doubt to the Secret Service Agents. What I am clearly saying is that it is their business to know that in Cartagena their are working girls all over.

Come on it is not like just one guy got lucky that night. All 12 of them got lucky. That is just not possible that all 12 of them didn't know what they were getting into.

I think it can be clearly thought that from this day onwards any body wanting to travel to Colombia at least for next one to two years will not be able to make lame excuses about why they are planning to go to Colombia.

LOL. More chicks for us non US residents.

Regards,

John.[/QUOTE]As more information about what happened gets out I would have to agree that the agent knew he had a prepago in his room. I heard that they took dozens of girls from the pleyboy club. But as far as not being able to use a lame excuse to go to Colombia, that's a joke, nothing will change. You tell Colombian immigration upon entry that you are visiting your girlfriend and you tell the same thing to the agents at passport control upon re-entry to the USA and there isn't jack shit they can do, if you are a USA citizen you have the right to travel and as long as you aren't breaking any laws they have to let you back into your own country, what are they going to do, tell you to go back to Colombia?

I guess I didn't put my thoughts correctly. Yes it has nothing to do with being US resident. What I should have said is for those who were using excuses like we are going golfing, fishing or any other excuse like that with family and or friends then I believe that excuse will be much harder to fly.

Manizales you are right about visiting the girl friend story. That is exactly what I tell Immigration that I visit my girl friend in Colombia.

Regards,

John.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1269807]As more information about what happened gets out I would have to agree that the agent knew he had a prepago in his room. I heard that they took dozens of girls from the pleyboy club. But as far as not being able to use a lame excuse to go to Colombia, that's a joke, nothing will change. You tell Colombian immigration upon entry that you are visiting your girlfriend and you tell the same thing to the agents at passport control upon re-entry to the USA and there isn't jack shit they can do, if you are a USA citizen you have the right to travel and as long as you aren't breaking any laws they have to let you back into your own country, what are they going to do, tell you to go back to Colombia?[/QUOTE]

According to Fox News, an employee of the hotel demanded extra money for the agent's guest. He balked and a conflict ensued that was brought to the attention of the embassy. If that is a fact, what a piece of s* hotel worker.

Yes, I know, we have to wait for the full story.

[QUOTE=Climaxnow; 1269885]According to Fox News, an employee of the hotel demanded extra money for the agent's guest. He balked and a conflict ensued that was brought to the attention of the embassy. If that is a fact, what a piece of s* hotel worker.

Yes, I know, we have to wait for the full story.[/QUOTE]Or what a dumb ass the agent was too.

I'm all for having fun, but if you're going to play around and go out on the edge a bit, you may just want to play by the rules and not make waves and draw attention, especially over a few dollars.

I personally have no problem with an off duty agent being with a prepago, but for being this pompous or dumb, different story.

I'm guessing on hindsight, the guy, as well his buddies, wish he would have just paid the stupid bill ehh.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1269894]Or what a dumb ass the agent was too.

I'm all for having fun, but if you're going to play around and go out on the edge a bit, you may just want to play by the rules and not make waves and draw attention, especially over a few dollars.

I personally have no problem with an off duty agent being with a prepago, but for being this pompous or dumb, different story.

I'm guessing on hindsight, the guy, as well his buddies, wish he would have just paid the stupid bill ehh.[/QUOTE]I agree with Mr. Ricker. If he's off duty why not have a little pump and dump? Doesn't make him a bad guy just makes him human. I could go on and on and on about how stupid he handled the situation but you guys can see what he did wrong; The biggest being "Don't shit where you eat" When I worked for a big company and I was at their hotel that THEY paid for, I NEVER had a girl come to me. I always went to her (One time she was in the same hotel in Chicago!

Now the issue of not paying the Chica Fee. That is where he turns into an A+ King of *******! What was the fee? $30-$75 bucks? I'd imagine he makes well over $100G's a year. He sold out his career because he was too cheap to come up with the fee, put dirt all over his name and for what? He's too cheap to pay the fee! If it's a hotel rule it's a rule! If the rule was unfair or if the time limit was 2 hours and he took 2. 15. Well then you can argue.

You have to assess the situation; Best case: I don't have to pay the $75 fee, but I'm going to have to argue with this clerk all night. Is my time and mental heath worth $75? Yes! Worst case: I make a HUGE stink over it and the Clerk calls his boss who drops the time and I get bagged from my awesome paying job?

What a IDIOT! When committing a caper rule #1 is do not get caught! If you have to pay a few bucks or go a little bit out of your way to insure your end result is achieved so be it!

Funny. I like to say "Don't be cheap, don't be lazy, don't be stupid and you'll have the best chance with a girl" guess that guy should have read my posts or followed me on twitter! Hahahah

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1269894]Or what a dumb ass the agent was too.

I'm all for having fun, but if you're going to play around and go out on the edge a bit, you may just want to play by the rules and not make waves and draw attention, especially over a few dollars.

I personally have no problem with an off duty agent being with a prepago, but for being this pompous or dumb, different story.

I'm guessing on hindsight, the guy, as well his buddies, wish he would have just paid the stupid bill ehh.[/QUOTE]My thoughts precisely amigo.

All I hear in the news is about the 12 secret service and 5 military personel who have gotten sent back to the US for alleged prostitution scandal. According to the new on Wednesday night a prostitute complaint about money that was owed to her and the US embassy was notified.

Not so bad. Who cares?

The problem isn't that some horny gringo wanted some Fine Colombian ass. It's that every news is covering it and saying prostitution is legal in Colombia. That means 1. More people will be coming down to get some driving the prices up. 2- giving Colombians and Americans a bad name. 3- it took away from the entire goal of the meeting down in Cartagena, security, trade, infrastructure, globalization, human capital, economic growth and natural resources and social development and the private sector.

Also 1 out of every three articles out there spell Colombia with a U. Nothing good can come out of this. The worst is the prices going up. ARGH!

[QUOTE=Nclpimp; 1269917]All I hear in the news is about the 12 secret service and 5 military personel who have gotten sent back to the US for alleged prostitution scandal. According to the new on Wednesday night a prostitute complaint about money that was owed to her and the US embassy was notified.

Not so bad. Who cares?

The problem isn't that some horny gringo wanted some Fine Colombian ass. It's that every news is covering it and saying prostitution is legal in Colombia. That means 1. More people will be coming down to get some driving the prices up. 2- giving Colombians and Americans a bad name. 3- it took away from the entire goal of the meeting down in Cartagena, security, trade, infrastructure, globalization, human capital, economic growth and natural resources and social development and the private sector.

Also 1 out of every three articles out there spell Colombia with a U. Nothing good can come out of this. The worst is the prices going up. ARGH![/QUOTE]I think you're correct on 2 and 3, but 1 aint happening. 95% of potential mongers already knew about Cartagena, if the other 5 % suddenly start coming it will be offset by mongers that can no longer visit because their cover is blown.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1269894]Or what a dumb ass the agent was too.

I'm all for having fun, but if you're going to play around and go out on the edge a bit, you may just want to play by the rules and not make waves and draw attention, especially over a few dollars.

I personally have no problem with an off duty agent being with a prepago, but for being this pompous or dumb, different story.

I'm guessing on hindsight, the guy, as well his buddies, wish he would have just paid the stupid bill ehh.[/QUOTE]He offered 100. 000 pesos for TLN and she said she was insulted with that and told him $400. USD. This is why if you're not 100% sure of the situation you need to talk about her compensation prior to going to the room.

[quote=nclpimp; 1269917]all i hear in the news is about the 12 secret service and 5 military personel who have gotten sent back to the us for alleged prostitution scandal. according to the new on wednesday night a prostitute complaint about money that was owed to her and the us embassy was notified.

not so bad. who cares?

the problem isn't that some horny gringo wanted some fine colombian ass. it's that every news is covering it and saying prostitution is legal in colombia. that means 1. more people will be coming down to get some driving the prices up. 2- giving colombians and americans a bad name. 3- it took away from the entire goal of the meeting down in cartagena, security, trade, infrastructure, globalization, human capital, economic growth and natural resources and social development and the private sector.

also 1 out of every three articles out there spell colombia with a u. nothing good can come out of this. the worst is the prices going up. argh![/quote]prepare for hordes of horny gringos overrunning cartagena. if you don't have deep pockets prepare to be forced out of the market. the process was already underway but the free marketing of the destination as a place to enjoy legal gash for cash by the us media giants will speed up the process. the two week millionaires are entering queries on google for colombian prostitutes like crazy.

[quote=chocha monger;1269995]prepare for hordes of horny gringos overrunning cartagena. if you don't have deep pockets prepare to be forced out of the market. the process was already underway but the free marketing of the destination as a place to enjoy legal gash for cash by the us media giants will speed up the process. the two week millionaires are entering queries on google for colombian prostitutes like crazy.[/quote]prostitution is legal or unofficially legal almost everywhere in the world other than the usa. just about anyone with a pc has figured this out. even high school kids surfing the internet are waiting for the day they can get some cash and leave the country with their friends. it's not a well-kept secret. my female friends have figured out sex tourism or travel fucking or whatever slang one calls guys heading to less developed countries for this purpose. many canadian and european women travel to cuba and the caribbean for their own discreet jaunts with local boys. they are just more subtle and monogamous on vacation.

as theshadow2 noted, colombia will be off-limits for some "because their cover will be blown". and who really wants to be blown with a cover!

[quote=chocha monger;1269995]prepare for hordes of horny gringos overrunning cartagena. if you don't have deep pockets prepare to be forced out of the market. the process was already underway but the free marketing of the destination as a place to enjoy legal gash for cash by the us media giants will speed up the process. the two week millionaires are entering queries on google for colombian prostitutes like crazy.[/quote]it will speed it up for single unattached guys and put the brakes on it for married or otherwise attached guys, i think it is a wash. one of my wingmen is fucked, he tells his other half he goes charter fishing with me, his wife isn't going to let him out of her sight now. i got my start in the game in cartagena but haven't been in a while because it is too expensive so no great loss to me.

i quit cartagena a few years ago for the same reason.

[quote=manizales911;1270021]it will speed it up for single unattached guys and put the brakes on it for married or otherwise attached guys, i think it is a wash. one of my wingmen is fucked, he tells his other half he goes charter fishing with me, his wife isn't going to let him out of her sight now. i got my start in the game in cartagena but haven't been in a while because it is too expensive so no great loss to me.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1269974]He offered 100. 000 pesos for TLN and she said she was insulted with that and told him $400. USD. This is why if you're not 100% sure of the situation you need to talk about her compensation prior to going to the room.[/QUOTE]Not sure you could convince me any hooker is worth $400. Had a Colombiana in Panama who was an "8" in looks, body and attitude. She did a condom free BJ, ate and fingered my ass during bj, pissed on my dick as I sat on the pot (no, I wasn't taking a dump either, and capped it off with anal. She was into my pulling her hair and slapping her ass. Freakiest girl I ever scored. Cost: $150, pre-arranged, $100 for the deed and $50 propina if she lived up to her end of the bargain. As you can see, she did. Met her at Habanos, the old version, we sat at the small cigar bar and she showed me and my wingman that she wasn't wearing panties under her dress. Was a night I'll never forgot. I was spent for the next two days after that one. Heard she does TLN for $300.

Hey guys, will go to Cartagena for one week and have some questions. Would be nice if you could answer them.

1. Are there brothels (are the legal?) or can I just pick up girls in clubs and take them home?

2. Do I normally go to the girls home or do I have to take them to my hostel?

3. Is it normally possible to take "guests" to a hostel and can I ask the hostel if its possible?

4. You always talk of girls from the beach, what is the name of the beach, where I can find the girls?

5. Where can I find the cheapest hookers? Beach, bars?

6. What are normal prizes in Cartagena for an hour? I always read of 200k. Does that mean 200 dollar?

Anyways it seems to be really expensive, so where can I find cheaper girls (and is it safe)

7. Do I have to ask the girls or do they come to me? And can I ask direct for sex?

8. How can I distinguish between hookers and normal girls?

9. Are there also normal girls looking for sex with a gringo?

Sorry, I know that these are many questions, but I m sure they are helpful for people who haven't been there and want to go.

Thanks a lot

[quote=chocha monger;1269995]prepare for hordes of horny gringos overrunning cartagena. if you don't have deep pockets prepare to be forced out of the market. the process was already underway but the free marketing of the destination as a place to enjoy legal gash for cash by the us media giants will speed up the process. the two week millionaires are entering queries on google for colombian prostitutes like crazy.[/quote]lmfao dude. as if there are hordes of horny gringos that have been searching for a destination to travel to in south america for mongering, but just never knew that prostitution existed in colombia until now. gtfo.

the "ruining" of cartagena has been going on in everyone's mind for the last 8 years or so. since then the prices have gone from 80k to about 120k. guess we have to look for a new destination lol.

You're too dumb to protect the President of the United States.

And if you want to have a mongering vacation then pay for the air ticket yourself!

[QUOTE=John; 1269636]Many on the board are very easily giving the benefit of the doubt to the Secret Service Agents. What I am clearly saying is that it is their business to know that in Cartagena their are working girls all over.

Come on it is not like just one guy got lucky that night. All 12 of them got lucky. That is just not possible that all 12 of them didn't know what they were getting into.

I think it can be clearly thought that from this day onwards any body wanting to travel to Colombia at least for next one to two years will not be able to make lame excuses about why they are planning to go to Colombia.

LOL. More chicks for us non US residents.

Regards,

John.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1269807]As more information about what happened gets out I would have to agree that the agent knew he had a prepago in his room. I heard that they took dozens of girls from the pleyboy club. But as far as not being able to use a lame excuse to go to Colombia, that's a joke, nothing will change. You tell Colombian immigration upon entry that you are visiting your girlfriend and you tell the same thing to the agents at passport control upon re-entry to the USA and there isn't jack shit they can do, if you are a USA citizen you have the right to travel and as long as you aren't breaking any laws they have to let you back into your own country, what are they going to do, tell you to go back to Colombia?[/QUOTE]Well, I can tell you about it.

First you have to tell where you coming from, when they ask, I do not tell a lie. I am returning from a tour of Peru and Colombia, then I get the ROYAL

TREATMENT.

They search mi bags twice, firs small dog then a bigger one,

What you do for living?

How much you spend?

Why you living in Cancun?

Where is your Camera, Video and Photos?

They took me to a room for search (THANKS GOD, WAS NOT A CAVITY SEARCH.)

The same questions over and over, for 4 hours, I lost my connection, but I did file a complain against those Fat (&$, not for question me, for using their phone all the time when the interview took place.

And my fat (&$ last question was! It Is wrong to travel? They get pist.

By the way they were to Hispanic agents.

My 20 Pesos.

Kukulkan

Talk about Expensive. I honestly think that only place in the world that got real expensive for pussy over last 7 years is Brazil. I mean jeez. High End Clubs now cost upwards of US$ 200 to US$ 250 for one hour with a girl. OH my God I wish for the return of 2004 or even like 2000 in Brazil. Those were the times.

1 US $ was equivalent to almost 4 reais. Now it is like 1. 5 damn.

Cartagena Puta inflation is just normal. It is the epicentre of Colombian Sex. Every body knows in Colombia about it and prostitution IMHO is some how accepted in Colombia.

In the words of Boyd (owner of Castillo) their are beautiful working girls in Colombia available any day of the year and at any time. The more I see of Colombia the more I agree with his statement. Prices are only going as high as you would want it to be.

No working girl is going to tell you 200k for TLN if you ask her how much she wants for TLN. If you are lucky she will say 300k. Sometimes they will quote you 400 or even 500k. It all depends on each individual to decide how much they are willing and able to pay.

Regards,

John.

[QUOTE=TheShadow2; 1270070]LMFAO Dude. As if there are hordes of horny gringos that have been searching for a destination to travel to in South America for mongering, but just never knew that prostitution existed in Colombia until now. GTFO.

The "ruining" of Cartagena has been going on in everyone's mind for the last 8 years or so. Since then the prices have gone from 80k to about 120K. Guess we have to look for a new destination LOL.[/QUOTE]

Oh My F*ing God, have you payed attention to the SHIT the media is cooking about the secret service and the prostitutes in Cartagena, I mean seriously. I just got sick listening to some of the stupid crap they are saying. They are suggesting that these prostitutes could have been part of an organization that sent them to get information to hurt POTUS, The only organization that they could have been part of is the propago union that says "charge the gringo 350k per hour". If Americans did not have a stick up there ass about prostitution than they would not see this any worse than if they had a disagreement with the maid about a tip, seriously. But since it was a "prostitute" she must have been capable of anything? Right? BULLSHIT. I have been with many woman in Cartagena and there were sleazy ones that I would not turn my back on and there were very sweet ones who I would trust with anything. Prostitution is the norm in Cartagena. And that is what the Media in the USA is missing here.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;1270004]Prostitution is legal or unofficially legal almost everywhere in the world other than the USA. Just about anyone with a PC has figured this out. Even high school kids surfing the internet are waiting for the day they can get some cash and leave the country with their friends. It's not a well-kept secret. My female friends have figured out sex tourism or travel fucking or whatever slang one calls guys heading to less developed countries for this purpose. Many Canadian and European women travel to Cuba and the Caribbean for their own discreet jaunts with local boys. They are just more subtle and monogamous on vacation.As TheShadow2 noted, Colombia will be off-limits for some "because their cover will be blown". And who really wants to be blown with a cover![/QUOTE]Prices higher or not, cover blown or not. This is not the point. The point is that the US – society has a huge problem with sex. This society is sexually inhibited and repressed. Under cover female cops run the streets as a bait for punters. How sick is that? People want to be free and this is no freedom, this is repression like a sexual iron curtain. The US society is a matriarchy and as a result to this men want to break free and travel the world for a noble dead. Unless we stop pussy to set the rules, we'll never be free!

[QUOTE=TheShadow2; 1270070]LMFAO Dude. As if there are hordes of horny gringos that have been searching for a destination to travel to in South America for mongering, but just never knew that prostitution existed in Colombia until now. GTFO.

The "ruining" of Cartagena has been going on in everyone's mind for the last 8 years or so. Since then the prices have gone from 80k to about 120K. Guess we have to look for a new destination LOL.[/QUOTE]Spot on post.

In re to the story: One is asking for problems by bringing working girls back to the Caribe Hotel (and then not getting them the freak out before sunrise). Now obvious to the world that these esteemed agents did not exercise good judgement. Good chance next time they'll RTFF. Hmmm, bring girls back to Caribe Hotel or take them to love motel? Uh huh.

ABC news reports that they actually boasted that they were there to protect the president. That is even more stupid than not paying your prostitute. Thumbs up, men of the Secret Service!

[QUOTE=Dolphin12;1270211]Prices higher or not, cover blown or not. This is not the point. The point is that the US – society has a huge problem with sex. This society is sexually inhibited and repressed. Under cover female cops run the streets as a bait for punters. How sick is that? People want to be free and this is no freedom, this is repression like a sexual iron curtain. The US society is a matriarchy and as a result to this men want to break free and travel the world for a noble dead. Unless we stop pussy to set the rules, we'll never be free![/QUOTE]You said it amigo!

Great country, great people, unfortunately sexually schizophrenic.

OK to show and advertise and glamorize sex, you just can't seek it out or you're labeled a criminal or deviant.

Nuts!

I need to teach those secret service guys how to smuggle girls GRATIS. What a dumbos!

[QUOTE=John; 1270141]Talk about Expensive. I honestly think that only place in the world that got real expensive for pussy over last 7 years is Brazil. I mean jeez. High End Clubs now cost upwards of US$ 200 to US$ 250 for one hour with a girl. OH my God I wish for the return of 2004 or even like 2000 in Brazil. Those were the times.

1 US $ was equivalent to almost 4 reais. Now it is like 1. 5 damn.

Cartagena Puta inflation is just normal. It is the epicentre of Colombian Sex. Every body knows in Colombia about it and prostitution IMHO is some how accepted in Colombia.

In the words of Boyd (owner of Castillo) their are beautiful working girls in Colombia available any day of the year and at any time. The more I see of Colombia the more I agree with his statement. Prices are only going as high as you would want it to be.

No working girl is going to tell you 200k for TLN if you ask her how much she wants for TLN. If you are lucky she will say 300k. Sometimes they will quote you 400 or even 500k. It all depends on each individual to decide how much they are willing and able to pay.

Regards,

John.[/QUOTE]All true, however, still in Brazil, if you know what you're doing, you can have lots of fun without breaking the bank at all, irregardless of the exchange rate.

My new hangout is Brazil, away from Rio, away from the touristy areas, definitely away from the ridiculous high end clubs and I'm having a blast!

Pros and non-pros alike, great fun.
The most difficult part was, after getting pretty good at spanish, having to learn portuguese and get good at it.
It's not easy going from being able to fully communicate and flirt and joke in a language (spanish) to speaking like a Kindergartner again.
Luckily, if you already speak spanish, the learning curve is high as the languages are very similar, though different enough to not be understood if you don't learn the other.

IMO I'd rank the Colombianas (maybe tied with Venezolanas) for number 1 in beauty, but they're Triple A compared to the Major Leagues of the Brazillian girl when it comes to sexuality and fun and more laid back and easy going in general.

Just from my experience and overall general opinion.

There are 19 SS who are pissed off at that one who didn't pay. Whatever the argument was, you just pay when you're on the job and your boss is the Prez. How stupid?

PeterHold. If you keep holding your peter, you'll figure it out. (If you do it in public view, you may figure it out quicker).

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1270301]All true, however, still in Brazil, if you know what you're doing, you can have lots of fun without breaking the bank at all, irregardless of the exchange rate.

My new hangout is Brazil, away from Rio, away from the touristy areas, definitely away from the ridiculous high end clubs and I'm having a blast!

Pros and non-pros alike, great fun.

The most difficult part was, after getting pretty good at spanish, having to learn portuguese and get good at it.

It's not easy going from being able to fully communicate and flirt and joke in a language (spanish) to speaking like a Kindergartner again.

Luckily, if you already speak spanish, the learning curve is high as the languages are very similar, though different enough to not be understood if you don't learn the other.

IMO I'd rank the Colombianas (maybe tied with Venezolanas) for number 1 in beauty, but they're Triple A compared to the Major Leagues of the Brazillian girl when it comes to sexuality and fun and more laid back and easy going in general.

Just from my experience and overall general opinion.[/QUOTE]got to try Brazil and put it on my bucket list, if only it was more affordable bro! I'm sure if you could take me under your wing we could do it very efficiently and cost effective cassanova! Jajajaja CTG is now probably out of reach and comparable to USA prices. I would never visit CTG these days just for P4P, It has become a bring your own chica city.

[QUOTE=PeterHold; 1270069]Hey guys, will go to Cartagena for one week and have some questions. Would be nice if you could answer them.
1. Are there brothels (are the legal?) or can I just pick up girls in clubs and take them home?
2. Do I normally go to the girls home or do I have to take them to my hostel?
[red]3. Is it normally possible to take "guests" to a hostel and can I ask the hostel if its possible? [/red]
4. You always talk of girls from the beach, what is the name of the beach, where I can find the girls?
5. Where can I find the cheapest hookers? Beach, bars?
[red]6. What are normal prizes in Cartagena for an hour? I always read of 200k. Does that mean 200 dollar? [/red]
Anyways it seems to be really expensive, so where can I find cheaper girls (and is it safe)
[red]7. Do I have to ask the girls or do they come to me? And can I ask direct for sex? [/red]
[red]8. How can I distinguish between hookers and normal girls? [/red]
9. Are there also normal girls looking for sex with a gringo?
Sorry, I know that these are many questions, but I m sure they are helpful for people who haven't been there and want to go.
Thanks a lot[/QUOTE]This must be one of the Secret Service guys writing before going to CTG. Nobody answered, so they made all this big trouble in Bocagrande!

What makes the Secret Service agents' actions so incredibly stupid is the fact that there are fuck rooms available right on the premises at Pleyclub, which is supposedly where they picked the girls up. There was no reason to bring them back to the hotel at all! There are 5 rooms available at Pleyclub, and if there were more than 5 agents wanting to get laid, well they could just wait until a room became available. That's certainly better than risking your career!

There are several things indicating that these agents were amateurs at mongering. First of all, they violated what I call the Iron Law of Mongering: always negotiate prices and services upfront before skin touches skin. They also apparently didn't bother to check whether the hotel where they were staying was chica friendly and they were seemingly oblivious to the fact that bringing a gaggle of putas to the hotel all at once would attract attention in a situation where you don't want to attract attention. And finally, they seemed oblivious to the fact that haggling with a puta over price will create a scene, and they seemingly ignored the hotel's rules regarding the time a chica must leave.

As a US citizen, I want to emphasize that I couldn't care less if a Secret Service agent engages in p4p when he is off duty, as long as it doesn't interfere with his duties. But if you're going to do it at least do it intelligently. These guys were just plain stupid.

Yea your correct Lorenzo apparently Americas best and brightest wanted to show off their putas at the Hotel Caribe. Use them taxpayer dollars to turn a hotel into a brothel I say, maybe the best use my tax money has seen in a while. You think they had them lined up at the pool playing their music loud and smoking Cohibas, having the girls take turns showing their boobs?

Hard to believe folks that travel to different countries for many years can make such a newbie mistake. She must have been a stunner that they wanted take back to the hotel and probably wanting to show-off walking down the street too.

[QUOTE=Amb832;1270339]Hard to believe folks that travel to different countries for many years can make such a newbie mistake. She must have been a stunner that they wanted take back to the hotel and probably wanting to show-off walking down the street too.[/QUOTE]The agent, with his gigantic ego, probably thought he found himself a freebie in a w* house.

[QUOTE=Climaxnow;1270342]The agent, with his gigantic ego, probably thought he found himself a freebie in a w* house.[/QUOTE]Yea. I would think those guys would operate more silently or more discrete than to be bragging so everyone in thee place know their business. Think liquor and overinflated ego is a dangerous combination.

CARTAGENA, Colombia — ABC News has learned exclusively that the Secret Service officials accused of misconduct in Colombia revealed their identities by boasting at a Cartagena brothel that they worked for President Obama.

Partying at the 'Pley Club' Wednesday night, eleven members of the president's advance team allegedly bragged 'we work for Obama' and 'we're here to protect him. '

The officials spent the night throwing back expensive whiskey and enlisting the services of the club's prostitutes, according to a bouncer at the club and a police source.

Sources tell ABC News several of the men agreed to pay for, and received, services from the 'highest category' prostitutes available at the club, who charge upwards of $200.

The men paid for the sexual services in advance but when it came time to settle the bill, there was a dispute over the charges.

The group became belligerent and the police were called. The argument between the officials and the bouncers from the club escalated and ultimately spilled onto the street, according to several eye witness accounts.

[url]http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/04/exclusive-secret-service-bragged-about-protecting-obama-while-partying-at-colombian-brothel/[/url]

[QUOTE=Dolphin12;1270211]Prices higher or not, cover blown or not. This is not the point. The point is that the US – society has a huge problem with sex. This society is sexually inhibited and repressed. Under cover female cops run the streets as a bait for punters. How sick is that? People want to be free and this is no freedom, this is repression like a sexual iron curtain. The US society is a matriarchy and as a result to this men want to break free and travel the world for a noble dead. Unless we stop pussy to set the rules, we'll never be free![/QUOTE]Dead on Brah, however we are not close to stopping the pussy, they do run the show here and they want to stop p4p everywhere. The have the media, the progressives (hard left) , and Hollywood on their side. The church is also a big part of the USA Sex Prison. Liberal cities like San Francisco are still very repressive (unless you're gay) when it comes to paid consensual sex between 2 people. They have undercover stings and the poor saps who get busted for solicitation (can) go to, John School, to avoid a record. John School is run by angry ex-hookers so that must be a lot of fun for the guys, haha.

In my town (SF) the city rents out a HUGE facility called The Armory, to guess who? Kink. Com where they make xxx porno, mostly gay, I think. So here in wonderful California it is legal for a producer to pay 2 people to fuck each other and film it. It is not legal for one person to pay another for sex tho. It is legal to trick nice guys out of their money on Broadway Street w / sexual titillation and innuendo but not legal for the guy to hire a woman for a little TLC. If your a heterosexual male you have to play by the rules of the pussy and there are plenty of rules. Oh and the guys here? They're clueless as to how bad they're being treated and repressed, absolutely clueless, haha.

One last note. The cheapskate SS agent really fucked things because now (and hopefully temporarily) Colombia will be known for it's hookers. Now I have to be careful who I tell where I am going. No No No Cartegena is where all the hookers are not Medillin where I'm going. I'm going for the coffee. Haha WTF!

Checking into CB for my coffee in 30 days, life is good.

The real concern I have with this (as a US citizen) is the total lack of common sense or is it arrogance these agents displayed.

If they boasted that they were there on official business to anyone, they should be terminated for stupidity.

If they brought the hookers back into their hotels, thus creating a security breach, they should be terminated.

If they brought the hookers into rooms where their I'd's, weapons, or other official materials were present, they should be terminated for a security breach.

If they had laid pipe at every decent working girl house in town, and crawled back to the hotel (using their own dime) , I would say great, go for it and party til you drop.

The real issues here are stupidity, breach of security, dereliction of duty and failure to RTFF before hitting the streets.

Now that they are in the stew, they should at least post some trip reports so we can know which hookers to ask for.

This is getting to be quite an episode in DC. Apparently they located 20 girls from I. D.s left at the front desk. I wonder how much the chicas will charge the investigators for interview time. Next, they will access the guilty agents' computers to find out what they've been up to in other pre-visit "planning". I now think it is only a matter of time before the investigators discover that some of the agents are members of ISG, where they talked about previous exploits. Some of us may very well get interviewed to see if we have links to "organizations".

NYTimes: "Could they have planted bugs, disabled weapons, or in any others jeopardized security of the president or our country? ' Ms. Collins said she had asked of the Secret Service. 'Is there any evidence of previous misconduct by these or any other agents on other missions? Investigators believe that all of the Secret Service personnel met the women at the same bar, Mr. King said. Mr. King said that the investigators were seeking to determine whether the Secret Service personnel had gone out looking for prostitutes or whether they had met them at the bar, where they were drinking heavily."

Man where did you come up with this in genuine thought. LMFAO.

[QUOTE=Black Page;1270309]This must be one of the Secret Service guys writing before going to CTG. Nobody answered, so they made all this big trouble in Bocagrande![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kukulkan; 1270130]Well, I can tell you about it.

First you have to tell where you coming from, when they ask, I do not tell a lie. I am returning from a tour of Peru and Colombia, then I get the ROYAL

TREATMENT.

They search mi bags twice, firs small dog then a bigger one,

What you do for living?

How much you spend?

Why you living in Cancun?

Where is your Camera, Video and Photos?

They took me to a room for search (THANKS GOD, WAS NOT A CAVITY SEARCH.)

The same questions over and over, for 4 hours, I lost my connection, but I did file a complain against those Fat (&$, not for question me, for using their phone all the time when the interview took place.

And my fat (&$ last question was! It Is wrong to travel? They get pist.

By the way they were to Hispanic agents.

My 20 Pesos.

Kukulkan[/QUOTE]I have traveled in and out of the USA close to 50 times over the past six plus years and I get pretty much the same questions every time upon returning to the USA Where did you go, how long were you there and what was the purpose of the trip. Pretty basic questions. Due to the fact that there is a person on their "bad guy" list with the same name as me with the same birthdate I get pulled into secondary almost every trip. Same three questions and I am on my way, no extra bag check, nothing. Arrivals to and departures from the countries I have visited are at least as smooth. I always travel with a laptop and camera and nobody has ever asked to look at them or ask any questions about them, of course I take the appropriate steps in case one day they do ask but after many many trips it hasn't happened.

The scandal involving members of the USA Secret Service partying with prostitutes is a boost for Cartagena's sex tourism industry, a local provider told local radio.

The anonymous sex tourims operator told undercover reporters of Caracol Radio that the USA Secret Service "helped my business a lot. The next day I received more than 20 emails."

He told the reporters that some of the girls who spent the night with USA officials came from the agency he promotes, which charges $2, 600 per day and advertises its services on internet.

He called the secret service agents "idiots" for also picking up girls from the streets and ending up in trouble over disputing the $47 payment.

"We charge per day because we pay the girls every 24 hours. Everything is settled beforehand, so that nobody is going to ask for money," one of the promoters of the sex tourism package said.

The scandal caused embarrassment for USA authorities and indignation in Colombia. However, for the sex tourism promoter, the scandal has become the perfect sales pitch.

"If it's good enough for the Secret Service, it's good for everybody," the sex tourism provider said.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1270404]I have traveled in and out of the USA close to 50 times over the past six plus years and I get pretty much the same questions every time upon returning to the USA Where did you go, how long were you there and what was the purpose of the trip. Pretty basic questions. Due to the fact that there is a person on their "bad guy" list with the same name as me with the same birthdate I get pulled into secondary almost every trip. Same three questions and I am on my way, no extra bag check, nothing. Arrivals to and departures from the countries I have visited are at least as smooth. I always travel with a laptop and camera and nobody has ever asked to look at them or ask any questions about them, of course I take the appropriate steps in case one day they do ask but after many many trips it hasn't happened.[/QUOTE]They don't care Manizales where you have been or what you did. They are judging how you respond to them, if you understand English, and if they should check you any further for contraband.

When I first heard about Cartagena Secret Service Prostitute Scandal everyone who knows I go there started calling me and having a laugh, I told them that the women are so beautiful in Cartagena that those straight laced Secret Service Agents couldn`t resist. That the Secret Service people never do hookers anywhere they go but just like me they couldn`t help themselves in Cartagena. I took it as a compliment that where I go is so great even these guys couldn`t resist the temptation of taking a hot paisa working girl home.

But I knew better, and as more and more details come out it`s obvious that these guys all 11 of them including the idiot that made the scene over money with the working girl were mongers. I guarantee that these guys every last one of them didn`t cross the line that night for their very first times. I`ve seen American Embassy guys in Electra, I`ve seen tons of service men in LDV when their boats were in port, all these guys are connected with all the branches of the military, who hasn`t seen sailors in every sex tourist destination in the world? I was watching an ex Secret Service guy on CNN tell Soledad O'brian that I know these guys and their families are devastated that these guys could fall to temptation and disgrace the secret service and dishonour their wives and families. He looked like a monger too.

What happened at the Caribe that night is that some Secret Service agent brought home your typical Colombian Hooker who by her very nature is WAY smarter than any other hooker in the world and he treated her like a Costa Rican or a Thai hooker and was convinced that she'd accept his measly $100 or whatever he thought they had originally agreed upon and he even made a scene trying to bully her into not ripping him-off. And she didn`t back down because she`s your typical Colombian Hooker who`s way smarter than all other types of hooker nationalities and even though $100 is a lot of money in Colombia it isn`t no where near the big score that a Colombian working girl dreams about fleecing from a dumb gringo. A dumb gringo who`s somehow associated with the American government staying at the Caribe and somehow associated with the president`s visit? You can imagine those 11 guys walking into the Pley Club. She was planning on spending the million pesos or more she was going to get out of him long before she ever got into the Caribe Hotel room with a Secret Service Agent who let all this get out of hand. She may not have known that he was Secret Service but she sure as hell could tell that this dumb gringo would never want to have a denuncia in the fiscalia.

Cartagena and Colombia have beautiful hookers but they ain't stupid they`re really smart and that`s why going there is so expensive, so stay away.

Remember, we`re all in this together,

Tom Power

It appears that the Secret Service agents were taking the term 'Walmart monger' to the extreme. According to NBC News, two agents tag teamed the prostitute but instead of paying her per penis fee of approximately $50 each they insisted on splitting the fee between them. This leads to some suspicion that may have been ISG members. LOL.

[url]http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/17/11251326-nbc-prostitutes-50-fee-for-two-agents-triggered-secret-service-scandal?lite[/url]

The Christian Science Monitor weighed in with a piece on sex tourism in Latin America with an emphasis on sex trafficking, 'Colombia, it says, is also 'a destination for foreign child sex tourists from the United States and Europe, particularly to coastal cities such as Cartagena and Barranquilla. '

[url]http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Americas/2012/0417/Secret-Service-scandal-sheds-light-on-sex-tourism-in-Latin-America[/url]

Is anyone in Cartagena to ask Tony which girls take participation on the scandal, and see if the secret service has a good taste?

The one will know, I think will be Tony?

Kukulkan

[QUOTE=Chocha Monger; 1270445]It appears that the Secret Service agents were taking the term 'Walmart monger' to the extreme. According to NBC News, two agents tag teamed the prostitute but instead of paying her per penis fee of approximately $50 each they insisted on splitting the fee between them. This leads to some suspicion that may have been ISG members. LOL.

[url]http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/17/11251326-nbc-prostitutes-50-fee-for-two-agents-triggered-secret-service-scandal?lite[/url]

The Christian Science Monitor weighed in with a piece on sex tourism in Latin America with an emphasis on sex trafficking, 'Colombia, it says, is also 'a destination for foreign child sex tourists from the United States and Europe, particularly to coastal cities such as Cartagena and Barranquilla. '

[url]http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Americas/2012/0417/Secret-Service-scandal-sheds-light-on-sex-tourism-in-Latin-America[/url][/QUOTE][url]Http://www.noticiascaracol.com/nacion/video-263012-funciona-el-turismo-sexual-cartagena[/url]

Sorry, is in Spanish.

Kukulkan

I quote,"CARTAGENA, Colombia. ABC News has learned exclusively that the Secret Service officials accused of misconduct in Colombia revealed their identities by boasting at a Cartagena brothel that they worked for President Obama.

Partying at the "Pley Club" Wednesday night, eleven members of the president's advance team allegedly bragged "we work for Obama" and "we're here to protect him."

The officials spent the night throwing back expensive whiskey and enlisting the services of the club's prostitutes, according to a bouncer at the club and a police source.

Sources tell ABC News several of the men agreed to pay for, and received, services from the "highest category" prostitutes available at the club, who charge upwards of $200. The group became belligerent and the police were called. The argument between the officials and the bouncers from the club escalated and ultimately spilled onto the street, according to several eye witness accounts.

The police have since been directed by USA authorities not to comment on that night or the scandal surrounding the Secret Service, according to a senior police official in Cartagena.

Prostitution is legal in Colombia and the women who work at the Pley Club live on the premises.

The club, located on a dusty street in the industrial Bosque neighborhood, just blocks from the port, has a rough exterior but boasts plush "pley rooms" inside.

The Pley Club is a well-known brothel in this historic city. Some taxi drivers in the resort-town are paid a commission for recommending the club and its prostitutes to tourists.

The officials were in Cartagena on assignment ahead of the president's visit for the Summit of the Americas last weekend.

The controversy surrounding the officials' misconduct, however, overshadowed the summit last week and local residents are questioning why the city put so many resources into the international event only to be left with a tarnished reputation.

"Cartagena didn't benefit one cent from President Obama's visit. All people remember are that the Secret Service agents slept with our prostitutes," said a man who works in the neighborhood."

[QUOTE=PeterHold;1270069]Hey guys, will go to Cartagena for one week and have some questions. Would be nice if you could answer them.[/QUOTE]1. Are there brothels (are the legal?) or can I just pick up girls in clubs and take them home?

[blue]Yes. There are brothels, but you are probably better off not going to a brothel. Typically, first time visitors to Cartagena hang out in the touristy areas areas around Bocogrande and the Old City. During the day, you are probably best off hanging out on the beach near Bocogrande while at night, many people head to a club called La Dolce Vita. It's least expensive if you rent an apartment for the week, in a building that is girl friendly. All the women in La Dolce Vita are sex workers. [/blue]

2. Do I normally go to the girls home or do I have to take them to my hostel?

[blue]If you need a place for a short time the girl will know of a cheap hotel nearby. [/blue]

3. Is it normally possible to take "guests" to a hostel and can I ask the hostel if its possible?

[blue]I don't expect a hostel is going to be friendly to the idea of girls coming to your room, but I don't know much about it. It probably makes more sense to pay for a cheap short term hotel room. [/blue]

4. You always talk of girls from the beach, what is the name of the beach, where I can find the girls?

[blue]Hollywood is the most notable section of Cartagena beach for girls. This is on the far side of Bocogrande. There are a couple of guys, Jason and Tony, who are often there, speak English, and will insist on finding you a girl. Jason is much easier to deal with than Tony. [/blue]

5. Where can I find the cheapest hookers? Beach, bars?

[blue]The least expensive girls work the streets. These girls can be very inexpensive. Generally, they don't come out till later in the night. [/blue]

6. What are normal prizes in Cartagena for an hour? I always read of 200k. Does that mean 200 dollar?

[blue]Cheaper girls are found inland in Colombia, the least expensive sex workers in Cartagena are found normally on the street, or more isolated / dangerous beaches, say, La Boquilla. 200k is 200, 000 Colombian pesos or about 112 dollars. With some game you might be able to cut this number in half. [/blue]

7. Do I have to ask the girls or do they come to me? And can I ask direct for sex?

[blue]You can always ask directly for sex, but this has never worked best for me. As my teacher used to say "You don't have to go leaping straight for the clitoris like a bull at a gate." Even if you are dealing with a sex worker it sometimes helps to dodge around the thing you want for a drink or two. Do you speak Spanish? [/blue]

8. How can I distinguish between hookers and normal girls?

[blue]You will know when she asks you about money. My sense from your questions is you will know a hooker immediately, because she will act differently than women you have known up to this point. [/blue]

9. Are there also normal girls looking for sex with a gringo?

[blue]Yes. You might find these girls working in the old city in various shops and stores. Since you do not have much time, you will need to either speak Spanish well, or have some natural charms working to your advantage. However, I hope you will not spend a lot of time pretending to fall for a nice girl, when you really just want to play sex tourist. On the other hand, your questions imply you are young and you might just be able to pull off a fun week, without needing to resort to any of the above insights. [/blue]

[QUOTE=PeterHold;1270069]Sorry, I know that these are many questions[/QUOTE][blue]Sorry, these are not the best answers, reading through the thread may provide more insight. [/blue]

Where are you coming from?

Same country as Mr. Obama went recently.

How many days did you go for?

As many days as my dick could handle. No more No less.

What you do for Living?

I must be doing something right for me to pay the taxes so Secret Service Agent can go around the world on my tax payer money and have a Sex Party.

What were doing in Colombia?

Same thing what the US Secret Service was doing while visiting Colombia.

How much did you Spend in Colombia?

I spent enough to ensure not to get involved in a Sex Scandal.

Where is your Camera?

I gave it as a gift to the same girl who was with MR. Secret Agent. So next time when they visit her she can take a nice photo.

Once they start to give you a hard time just ask them one question.

How long did you get to interview those Secret Service Agents.

I am sick and tired of two different set of rules. If you look like foreign born American or Canadian these idiots at the Immigration start asking all weird question over and over. Last when they took me in for a 4 hour interview I just in the end told them straight up I went to Colombia to have a good time. I spent more then what you make in two months.

Next question they asked me is how much I paid in taxes last year. I told them it was none of their business as I am a Canadian travelling through USA to catch my next flight. All they tried to do is get me to miss my connecting flight. Therefore from that point onwards I personally avoid travelling through USA.

Thanks to Copa Airlines I get to fly at a reasonable ticket cost as well flying Toronto to Panama and then Panama direct to Medellin.

John.

American men with Colombian hotties. What?

God forbids if ever my country men get to fuck Colombian prostitutes. Made it to headline news. Wow man. It's like the"Puritans" never left or evolved. Either that or our feminists are squeezing them ever harder. It's like they expect us to turn testosterone on and off. Really!

[QUOTE=Jelly Donut;1270487][blue]Sorry, these are not the best answers, reading through the thread may provide more insight. [/blue][/QUOTE]Those really are the best answers. Good job summarizing the CTG scene and helping out a newbie.

They are showing girls walking up the stairs at the LDV on ABC this morning. Some agents are claiming they didn't know they were paying for sex, just women they happened to meet. LOL

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1270579]They are showing girls walking up the stairs at the LDV on ABC this morning. Some agents are claiming they didn't know they were paying for sex, just women they happened to meet. LOL[/QUOTE]Whats the dif from staying in bocagrandeor laguito, ? Thanks for the awsome Cartagena map.

I don't like this because in the USA when you mention Cartagena now people will automatically assume you are going to monger.

A fair assumption. Tell them you are going deep-sea fishing in Tulsa.
There's also Cartagena, Spain.

If it is true, as alleged, that 21 prostitutes may have been involved, there is more to investigate. Why did the National Security Agency fail to detect all the cell chatter that must have been going on?

According to the news, a number of the agents are denying that they knew there girl was a prostitute. I really doubt that the agents could have pulled 21 girls all from the same club. Stands to reason to me that some must have met on or near the hotel. My point is that my original argument of an agent believing he found himself a freebie will probably hold true. Its easy for guys like us to know the reality of a situation but not necessarily for men have never used prostitutes or are not at all familiar with the natives.

Customs official- Sir what were you doing in Colombia? Answer- Training to be Secret Service Officer. Customs Offical- So what were you doing? Practicing at a firing range to be a sharp shooter? Bomb removal? Answer- Nope! Mostly Hookahs and beer!

Colombia is Passion motto is gone, now its Colombia Get some!

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Ok, we can laugh a lot about how silly is that, but the whole story is AWFUL news for us. CTG is now famous in USA, and not for its colonial style houses, the walls, the beauty of its Centro Historico. From now on, if I tell colleagues in USA (and maybe out of them too) that I am going to spend 3-4 days in ctg, I will get mad eyes.

It is even possible that the local police will act in some way on clubs and freebies, attempting to "clean up" the place and restoring a good image of the place for families etc. I don't see anything good coming out from this.

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Ok, we can laugh a lot about how silly is that, but the whole story is AWFUL news for us. CTG is now famous in USA, and not for its colonial style houses, the walls, the beauty of its Centro Historico. From now on, if I tell colleagues in USA (and maybe out of them too) that I am going to spend 3-4 days in ctg, I will get mad eyes.

It is even possible that the local police will act in some way on clubs and freebies, attempting to "clean up" the place and restoring a good image of the place for families etc. I don't see anything good coming out from this.[/QUOTE]I agree. Also American's might be looked at, as someone that exploit's Colombia by Colombian's. Our little Colombian secret is out fellas. It might be time for me to work on my fake British accent (I say ole chap, it's a jolly good day) so I don't get crazy look's that will now be directed at American's LOL. Brazil is shutting down, Sosua is being over-run, and now CTG is being exposed, let's hope the overflow doesn't reach my beloved Medellin.

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Ok, we can laugh a lot about how silly is that, but the whole story is AWFUL news for us. CTG is now famous in USA, and not for its colonial style houses, the walls, the beauty of its Centro Historico. From now on, if I tell colleagues in USA (and maybe out of them too) that I am going to spend 3-4 days in ctg, I will get mad eyes.

It is even possible that the local police will act in some way on clubs and freebies, attempting to "clean up" the place and restoring a good image of the place for families etc. I don't see anything good coming out from this.[/QUOTE]I've lived in Colombia where I taught English. A group of us teacher spent a week in Cartegena back in the day. There was plenty of street pussy available as well as call service / message action.

These guys (lost control) or I like to say "Little Head Over-ride! They totally compromised their mission and now they are trying to lie their way out.

Now this will draw world attention which will do us veteran mongers no good. Prices will rise, corrupt police will exploit the whole sex scene down there.

They have been hooking in Cartagena since the pirates were in the Caribbean. Find a girl hooking there now and odds are her mother hooked there too. Nothing has changed over time there except for what is coming with the new big hotel chains in Bocagrande and then the construction of the boardwalk along the beach. Hell Tony has been pimping at the beach for 25 years you guys think prostitution is new there? It is a family town fuck thats funny!

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1270683]I agree. Also American's might be looked at, as someone that exploit's Colombia by Colombian's. Our little Colombian secret is out fellas. It might be time for me to work on my fake British accent (I say ole chap, it's a jolly good day) so I don't get crazy look's that will now be directed at American's LOL. Brazil is shutting down, Sosua is being over-run, and now CTG is being exposed, let's hope the overflow doesn't reach my beloved Medellin.[/QUOTE]Since CTG is exposed now all the mongers from Sosua will go there now. Maybe that's good news for folks wanting to go back to Sosua. LOL. Hope you're right and the overflow doesn't effect Medellin. I'm suppose to be there in July.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1270683]Brazil is shutting down, Sosua is being over-run, and now CTG is being exposed, let's hope the overflow doesn't reach my beloved Medellin.[/QUOTE]Common buddy, you're kidding right? Medellin has been gringoed out for about 3 years now, Parque gringo, Hooters, Where gringos, gallivant with not a care in the world and a real false sense of security, just look at the prices Loutron / Energy 200k+ Even my Colombian buddy was getting pissed off at mayorista while trying to bring a girl back to the apartment (he doesn't like to bang in the casas) They were asking 100k. I'm doing other areas in Colombia now, taking the bus and getting lost. LOL. I just got back last week and was proud that I could still negotiate 60-80k plus taxi for a good tln.

I used to hit the casas with my Colombian buddies where the girls would ask with amazement "where are you from, how did you find this city called medellin" NOW they ask if my Colombian buddy is "my guide" lol

News report says she expected $800 to be an escort.

[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/19/world/americas/colombian-escort-speaks-about-secret-service-scandal.html[/url]

[quote]CARTAGENA, Colombia — A Secret Service agent preparing for President Obama's arrival at an international summit meeting and a single mother from Colombia who makes a living as a high-priced escort faced off in a room at the Hotel Caribe a week ago over how much he owed her for the previous night's intercourse. 'I tell him, 'Baby, my cash money, ' ' the woman said in her first public comments on a spat that would soon spiral into a full-blown scandal.

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The dispute — he offered $30 for services she thought they had agreed were worth 25 times that — triggered a tense early morning struggle in the hallway of the posh hotel involving the woman, another prostitute, Colombian police officers arguing on the women's behalf and American federal agents who tried but failed to keep the matter — which has shaken the reputation of the Secret Service — from escalating.

Sitting on a couch in her living room wearing a short jean skirt, high-heeled espadrilles and a tight spandex top with a plunging neckline, the woman described how she and a girlfriend were approached by a group of American men at a discotheque. In an account that tracked with the official version of events coming out of Washington, but could not be independently confirmed, she said the men bought a bottle of Absolut vodka for the table and when that was finished bought a second one.

'They never told me they were with Obama, ' she said. 'They were very discreet. '

A taxi driver who picked up the woman at the Hotel Caribe the morning of the encounter said he heard her and another woman recount the dispute over payment. When approached by The Times, the woman was reluctant to speak about what occurred. As she nervously told her story, a friend gave details that seemed to corroborate her account.

There was a language gap between the 24-year-old woman, who declined to give her full name, and the American man who sat beside her all night and eventually invited her back to his room. She agreed, stopped on the way to buy condoms but told him he would have to give her a gift. He asked how much. Not knowing he worked for President Obama but figuring he was a well-heeled foreigner, she said she told him $800.

The price alone, she said, indicates that she is an escort, not a prostitute. 'You have higher rank, ' she said. 'An escort is someone who a man can take out to dinner. She can dress nicely, wear nice makeup, speak and act like a lady. That's me. '

By 6:30 the next morning, after being awoken by a telephone call from the hotel front desk reminding her that, under the hotel's rules for prostitutes, she had to leave, whatever deal the two had agreed on had broken down. She recalled that the man told her he had been drunk when they discussed the price. He countered with an offer of 50, 000 pesos, the equivalent of about $30.

Disgusted with such a low offer, she pressed the matter. He became angry, ordered her out of the room and called her an expletive, she said.

She said she was crying at that point and went across the hall, where another escort had spent the night with a second American man from the same group. Both women began trying to get the money.

They knocked on the door but got no response. She threatened to call the police, but the man's friend begged her not to, saying they did not want trouble. Finally, she said, she left to go home but came across a policeman who was stationed on the hallway and called in an English-speaking colleague.

He accompanied her back to the room and the dispute escalated. Two other Americans from the club emerged from their rooms and stood guard in front of their friend's locked door. The two Colombian officers tried to argue the woman's case.

A hotel security officer arrived. Eventually, she lowered her demand to $250, which she said was the amount she has to pay the man who helps find her customers. Eager to resolve the matter fast, the American men eventually gave her a combination of dollars and local currency worth about $225, and she left.

It was only days later, once a friend she had shared her story with called to say that the dispute had made the television news, that she learned that the man had been a Secret Service agent.

She was dismayed, she said, that the news reports have described her as a prostitute as though she walked the streets picking up just anyone.

'It's the same but it's different, ' she said, indicating that she is much more selective about her clients and charges much more than a streetwalker. 'It's like when you buy a fine rum or a BlackBerry or an iPhone. They have a different price. '

The woman veered between anger and fear as she told of her misadventure. 'I'm scared, ' she said, indicating she did not want the man she spent the night with to get into any trouble but now feared that he might retaliate against her.

'This is something really big, ' she said. 'This is the government of the United States. I have nervous attacks. I cry all the time. '

The Secret Service declined to comment on the woman's account. Among the issues under review is whether the security personnel went out that night looking for prostitutes or whether they encountered them where they had been drinking.

'There was no evidence that these women were seeking these guys out — that they were waiting for Secret Service agents, but all of that is being looked into, ' said Representative Peter T. King, the chairman of the House Committee on Homeland Security.

Mr. King, who was briefed on the matter by Mark Sullivan, the Secret Service director, said that the Secret Service agents at the hotel had provided conflicting reports about the night's events.

'Some of them were saying they didn't know they were prostitutes, ' he said. 'Some are saying they were women at the bar. I understand that there was quite a bit of drinking. '

As for cooperating with the American investigators who are seeking to interview as many as 21 different women who they believe may have spent the night with American security officers in advance of Mr. Obama's arrival, the woman who was involved in the payment dispute said she was not interested in that. She said she was planning to leave Cartagena soon.[/QUOTE]

[quote=amb832;1270713]since ctg is exposed now all the mongers from sosua will go there now.[/quote]no risk of that.

jet blue doesn't fly into cartagena.

alot of dr dudes would [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116][CodeWord116][/url] their pants before they would get on a plane to colombia, i can name you some isg usernames but i don't see the point.

tony and the hard core putas in cartagena stick newbies in the ass so hard their tonsuls hurt.

just look back at the last trip reports where guys paid 200k pesos for chics that everyone pays 60k for.

if you can't sit in your chair and point out the suckers it is you who is the sucker.

Epic Center:

A pair of Obama SS agent expected a group discount rate 2 for 1at100, 000 COP ($50. 00) from the chica. Chica reported it to the police in the lobby as lack of payment. Rest still under question.

Other factors in play too.

[QUOTE=Jambo; 1270727]News report says she expected $800 to be an escort.

[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/19/world/americas/colombian-escort-speaks-about-secret-service-scandal.html[/url][/QUOTE]A MILF that charges $800. What a liar.

[QUOTE=Climaxnow;1270739]A MILF that charges $800. What a liar.[/QUOTE]If the idiots wasn't bragging they were secret service agents maybe she wouldn't of tried to jack up the price 25X.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1270683]. Brazil is shutting down .[/QUOTE]That's funny. Only because you don't know the scene amigo. You're most likely thinking Rio only.

PS. As the exchange has been getting worse in Colombia, Brazil has been slowly improving vs the dollar.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1270764]That's funny. Only because you don't know the scene amigo. You're most likely thinking Rio only.

PS. As the exchange has been getting worse in Colombia, Brazil has been slowly improving vs the dollar.[/QUOTE]You and MHL are in " legend" status", I'm just in " veteran status". Give me another ten years and I will catch up, amigo.

Begin rant: Unfortunately, some (too many?) of my countrymen who visit Colombia do not think discretion, respect and local customs, etc, apply to them while there. I don't like stereotypes or to make broad sweeping generalizations, but it has unfortunately become quite obvious that many of us guys from the States who monger in Colombia are complete arrogant assholes who don't give a hoot about local customs; don't know how to be discrete; constantly gossip and run our mouths while there; are loud and obnoxious with our foul language in places that aren't the men's locker room; feel that the local rules are for locals; brag, brag and brag some more about how (pick something) etc, etc, and then after bragging about how great we are and how much money we make; well of course we want to pay as little as possible for pussy so we can brag about that as well.

I love my country and I'm proud to be an American. But some (too many?) of my countrymen are just plain jerks. End rant.

Looking forward to my upcoming trip and staying low key and out of the spotlight with some local favoritas from the barrios and those "vacationing" university students (uh huh) frolicking in and out of the water.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper; 1270793]Begin rant: Unfortunately, some (too many?) of my countrymen who visit Colombia do not think discretion, respect and local customs, etc, apply to them while there. I don't like stereotypes or to make broad sweeping generalizations, but it has unfortunately become quite obvious that many of us guys from the States who monger in Colombia are complete arrogant assholes who don't give a hoot about local customs; don't know how to be discrete; constantly gossip and run our mouths while there; are loud and obnoxious with our foul language in places that aren't the men's locker room; feel that the local rules are for locals; brag, brag and brag some more about how (pick something) etc, etc, and then after bragging about how great we are and how much money we make; well of course we want to pay as little as possible for pussy so we can brag about that as well.

I love my country and I'm proud to be an American. But some (too many?) of my countrymen are just plain jerks. End rant.

Looking forward to my upcoming trip and staying low key and out of the spotlight with some local favoritas from the barrios and those "vacationing" university students (uh huh) frolicking in and out of the water.[/QUOTE]Your thoughts not only apply to Colombia, but every other place in Carribean, Central and South America as well. Well stated.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1270697]They have been hooking in Cartagena since the pirates were in the Caribbean. Find a girl hooking there now and odds are her mother hooked there too. Nothing has changed over time there except for what is coming with the new big hotel chains in Bocagrande and then the construction of the boardwalk along the beach. Hell Tony has been pimping at the beach for 25 years you guys think prostitution is new there? It is a family town fuck thats funny![/QUOTE]Ye working girls!

Actually his observation not only apply to C / S America, but even to developed countries like Germany, Japan and France.

[QUOTE=Mangera;1270799]Your thoughts not only apply to Colombia, but every other place in Carribean, Central and South America as well. Well stated.[/QUOTE]

Have prices really gone up that much in Cartagena? When I was there in 96-97 the very top shelf beautiful strippers from places like American Nights (if I remember the name correctly) wanted $140 or $160 to leave for the night, room included. Of course brothel girls or girls picked up in night clubs were much less.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver; 1270726]Common buddy, you're kidding right? Medellin has been gringoed out for about 3 years now, Parque gringo, Hooters, Where gringos, gallivant with not a care in the world and a real false sense of security, just look at the prices Loutron / Energy 200k+ Even my Colombian buddy was getting pissed off at mayorista while trying to bring a girl back to the apartment (he doesn't like to bang in the casas) They were asking 100k. I'm doing other areas in Colombia now, taking the bus and getting lost. LOL. I just got back last week and was proud that I could still negotiate 60-80k plus taxi for a good tln.

I used to hit the casas with my Colombian buddies where the girls would ask with amazement "where are you from, how did you find this city called Medellin" NOW they ask if my Colombian buddy is "my guide" LOL[/QUOTE]All the places you name I have never been except Mayorista and Parque gringo, and I wouldn't say mayorista is gringoed out. Sandiego, el Centro, and Luna luneras aren't gringoed out either yet. Most gringos are scared of these places and rarely stray far from the mansion. I don't know why your boy got pissed at 100k for takeout, that seems about right to me. When I'm a legend like you maybe I too can get them for 80k. Go Heat.

Questions about these SS agents. 1- don't these idiots make about 100k after a few years? Why so cheap. 2-Why would they argue with these girls knowing their position. Just suck it up, and give her the money she wanted. Chalk it up as a learning experience. Pride aint worth losing a 100k job 3- do you think these girl are being questioned for 10 hours on if the ss agents told them any confidential info. 4- This girl could sell her story for a mint. Why is she crying. I would be laughing all the way to the bank.

There are alot of dumb posts by guys here that say the same thing: "what these guys do on their own time is their biz". Not true. There is something called BLACKMAIL. When the guy said he works for Obama, they are compromising the president. As worthless as Obama is, you don't want cartel members trying to get info about where Obama will be. Hell, they could have kidnapped one of them and tortured them unless they told where Obama was going to be staying. I know these are far fetched ideas, but you can't put yourself in that situation. They are not normal citizens.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1270778]You and MHL are in " legend" status", I'm just in " veteran status". Give me another ten years and I will catch up, amigo.[/QUOTE]Haha, that's funny! I'm just a vet like you, throwing my two centavos out there, especially about things and places I know about well.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper; 1270793]Begin rant: Unfortunately, some (too many?) of my countrymen who visit Colombia do not think discretion, respect and local customs, etc, apply to them while there. I don't like stereotypes or to make broad sweeping generalizations, but it has unfortunately become quite obvious that many of us guys from the States who monger in Colombia are complete arrogant assholes who don't give a hoot about local customs; don't know how to be discrete; constantly gossip and run our mouths while there; are loud and obnoxious with our foul language in places that aren't the men's locker room; feel that the local rules are for locals; brag, brag and brag some more about how (pick something) etc, etc, and then after bragging about how great we are and how much money we make; well of course we want to pay as little as possible for pussy so we can brag about that as well.

I love my country and I'm proud to be an American. But some (too many?) of my countrymen are just plain jerks. End rant.

Looking forward to my upcoming trip and staying low key and out of the spotlight with some local favoritas from the barrios and those "vacationing" university students (uh huh) frolicking in and out of the water.[/QUOTE]Word for word great post, could have written it myself. Being discrete goes a long way in Colombia, try it sometime.

[QUOTE=TheShadow2;1271123]Word for word great post, could have written it myself. Being discrete goes a long way in Colombia, try it sometime.[/QUOTE]Excellent original post and I would like to add be nice to discrete and you'd be amazed at how things open up for you!

[url]http://*******.com/cyunfav[/url]

Anyone know this chica

Spirit Airlines joins the fun with a "More bang for your buck" campaign.

[url]http://overheadbin.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/19/11288952-spirit-airlines-puts-cartagena-fares-on-secret-service-sale?lite[/url]

Gents. Will be visiting this weekend and staying at my apartment in Laguito! Are the ladies still out in force or has the action died down a little because of the secret service f up? Any difference in LDV or the beach scene?

[QUOTE=Shamester;1271189]Anyone know this chica[/QUOTE]You can also find gorgeous Colombians with us to. CharlisAngel's has a variety of gorgeous of models that will blow your mind at the moment you step on CharlisAngel's villa so have fun like the secret service guys but with the special discretion that CharlisAngel's will provided you at this gorgeous natural place at the Caribbean with the special companion of stunning girls.

[QUOTE=Shamester;1271189]Anyone know this chica[/QUOTE]Oohh. A narco beauty! I like them but not worth 8 Benjamins, maybe 3 for the night.

You can also find gorgeous Colombians with us to. CharlisAngel's has a variety of gorgeous of models that will blow your mind at the moment you step on CharlisAngel's villa so have fun like the secret service guys but with the special discretion that CharlisAngel's will provided you at this gorgeous natural place at the Caribbean with the special companion of stunning girls.

[QUOTE=Spicy Dreams;1270812]Have prices really gone up that much in Cartagena? When I was there in 96-97 the very top shelf beautiful strippers from places like American Nights (if I remember the name correctly) wanted $140 or $160 to leave for the night, room included. Of course brothel girls or girls picked up in night clubs were much less.[/QUOTE]$140/160 back in 96-97, I. E. 15 to 16 years ago, is like $250 to 300 today! When I was in Cartagena last year, I paid about $100 to 150 for several hours of great fun. One chica stayed till 7am or so.

The Chick that brought down 12 Secret Service Agents Single Handedly.

Wow. That story she can sell for like a million bucks.

Any body investing.

LMFAO.

[QUOTE=Shamester;1271189]Anyone know this chica[/QUOTE]

I wonder how much Playboy will offer her for story and posing.

[QUOTE=Climaxnow;1271197]Oohh. A narco beauty! I like them but not worth 8 Benjamins, maybe 3 for the night.[/QUOTE]I know nothing about Colombia, only monger in Europe, CR, DR. Is this 800 dollar claim legit? Do some girls there ask for that or get that. I have never heard of such thing from any monger I have ever met. Any place I have been they wouldn't even think it much less say it? This has got to be total BS! Right?

I think I am going to go out on a limb here. I have never been asked more then 600 mil which equates to about $ 350 or so. In my experience girls much better looking then this photos shown, I am talking like drop dead gorgeous girls can be had in Colombia for like 400 mil to max of 500 mil for all night starting from like 9 pm to 8 am the next morning.

I am paying two very very beautiful girls some good money and taking them to San Andres for a 3 day trip at a price of like $ 500 each for a 3 day trip. Of course their are more expenses for me to fly them to San Andres and other Hotel expenses too, but these same girls agree to 500 mil all night.

Yes many of us will think that even $250 or so is also very very high for all night but to me that is worth the price if the girls are complete model figure 10's.

Regards,

John.

[QUOTE=Doker44;1271262]I know nothing about Colombia, only monger in Europe, CR, DR. Is this 800 dollar claim legit? Do some girls there ask for that or get that. I have never heard of such thing from any monger I have ever met. Any place I have been they wouldn't even think it much less say it? This has got to be total BS! Right?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=John;1271269]Of course their are more expenses for me to fly them to San Andres and other Hotel expenses too, but these same girls agree to 500 mil all night.[/QUOTE]Yeah ya think?

Wow how did you get these amazing deals? You must be a real charming looker!

Sorry duplicate

Thanks for the Response very interesting. WOW! I am shocked, even these prices you mentioned are insane. I had no idea the prices were that high in Colombia. Believe me I am not knocking you but I wouldn't be traveling for those prices, yes they maybe good looking but there comes a point for me where I just feel like I am getting ripped off and wouldn't be able to enjoy it. I mean hell if I went around offering random hot girls in the us that were working part time or college students 250-300 I would find takers.

WOW. Over 75 posts on the subject of the S. S. Prostitution scandal! But this is the right forum for this discussion, and the level of knowledge displayed here is impressive. ISG should be required reading for S. S. Men as part of their training.

What bugs me is the amount of attention that this scandal has gotten in the mainstream media. From the N. Y. Times to the tabloids, etc.

Before the scandal hardly any one in USA knew that president Obama was traveling to Cartagena. Even today most people don't know or care to know what were the important issues being discussed there or what was the outcome of the meeting. It's a shame!

I read some of the latinamerican newspapers on the internet, and noticed that the scandal has gotten some attention, but did not overshadow the other important news about the meeting.

[QUOTE=Doker44;1271281]Thanks for the Response very interesting. WOW! I am shocked, even these prices you mentioned are insane. I had no idea the prices were that high in Colombia. Believe me I am not knocking you but I wouldn't be traveling for those prices, yes they maybe good looking but there comes a point for me where I just feel like I am getting ripped off and wouldn't be able to enjoy it. I mean hell if I went around offering random hot girls in the us that were working part time or college students 250-300 I would find takers.[/QUOTE]Nothing posted on this board surprises me anymore, but thanks for your honesty John. I know a guy who has a wife that doesn't work, but she buys 1200 dollar coach purses every month and only fucks him on Valentines Day and his Birthday. The same guy goes to Medellin and spends his whole vacation in casa's fucking 30 dollar girls, go figure.

[QUOTE=John; 1271269]Yes many of us will think that even $250 or so is also very very high for all night but to me that is worth the price if the girls are complete model figure 10's.

Regards,

John.[/QUOTE]How about you post of pic or two of any of them so we can get an idea of how beautiful these girls really are. Thanks.

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1270903]There are alot of dumb posts by guys here that say the same thing: "what these guys do on their own time is their biz". Not true. There is something called BLACKMAIL. They are not normal citizens.[/QUOTE][u]With a security clearance[/u], it's called "adverse behavior". Gambling, drugs, prostitution. And the real kick in the crotch: if you know about adverse behavior (in others) , and don't report it, THAT TOO is adverse behavior.

My take: these guys should be terminated for stupidity:[list][*] (My [u]guess[/u]) : Loud, arrogant, intoxicated, looking to show off, does offer the girl $800 to go with him. Strike 1 for for arrogance & stupidity.
[*]Next morning, figures $30 will do. After all, she's a w*ore. He's high profile, American, and in the big leagues. EVERYBODY takes orders FROM him. Strike 2 for for arrogance & stupidity.
[*]Gets into an argument with her, AND on [u]her[/u] HOME turf. Again, who is she to argue with him? Strike 3 for arrogance & stupidity.[/list]Game over as they were tagged out, trying to steal (for) home (as in they got caught).

I think that there are two separate things. One. Whether or not you like (or agree with) their behavior. Two. What laws and / or administrative rules they violated. The two things are different matters. Plus we do not see many evidences for (differential) allegations. I know that this post will be unpopular. Thanks.

[QUOTE=11Bravo; 1271315][u]With a security clearance[/u], My take: these guys should be terminated for stupidity:[list][*] (My [u]guess[/u]) : Loud, arrogant, intoxicated, looking to show off, does offer the girl $800 to go with him. Strike 1 for for arrogance & stupidity.
[*]Next morning, figures $30 will do. After all, she's a w*ore. He's high profile, American, and in the big leagues. EVERYBODY takes orders FROM him. Strike 2 for for arrogance & stupidity.
[*]Gets into an argument with her, AND on [u]her[/u] HOME turf. Again, who is she to argue with him? Strike 3 for arrogance & stupidity.[/list]Game over.[/QUOTE]

As I see this scandal in the headlines in both gringo and latino media, I can't help but think of all the chicas who have told their families in the past that they've gone to Cartagena to work as waitresses or in a hotel, club, etc. Surely somewhere in Colombia, some suspicions have been raised. And any chica thinking of going to CTG now maybe thinking twice about it, or will have to be even more creative with the little white lies.

OTOH, I've met a lot of chicas who said that their families already know. I wonder about the fate of Pleyclub or LDV in some moralistic backlash. However, the urge for $ is so great in CO, and the urge for cX0Cha as well, that it'll probably be business as usual.

I've been there so many times I've actually made some nice connections with a few normal locals, but I'm waiting a long time before I go back. And I feel bad for the good people of CTG now that it has now become synonymous with mongering.

I see several people are worrying about what kind of backlash there might be in Colombia against hookers and brothels. Haha, don't worry, in Latin America it's ALWAYS going to be business as usual. It's part of the culture.

But looking at the photos of the $800 chica in question. She definitely does not look top shelf. Mid level material with fake boobs, a thick body, and coarse features. Either she was trying to take advantage of a guy too drunk to use common sense and thinking with the little head, or she thought this gringo was Daddy Warbucks and $80 or $800 was all the same to him.

[QUOTE=Gonzo; 1271331]As I see this scandal in the headlines in both gringo and latino media, I can't help but think of all the chicas who have told their families in the past that they've gone to Cartagena to work as waitresses or in a hotel, club, etc. Surely somewhere in Colombia, some suspicions have been raised. And any chica thinking of going to CTG now maybe thinking twice about it, or will have to be even more creative with the little white lies.

OTOH, I've met a lot of chicas who said that their families already know. I wonder about the fate of Pleyclub or LDV in some moralistic backlash. However, the urge for $ is so great in CO, and the urge for cX0Cha as well, that it'll probably be business as usual.

I've been there so many times I've actually made some nice connections with a few normal locals, but I'm waiting a long time before I go back. And I feel bad for the good people of CTG now that it has now become synonymous with mongering.[/QUOTE]Like I said before this is not the first generation of Hookahs in Cartagena, odds are their mothers hooked there. They tell their families they are going on "Vacation" then go there to make money. My 2nd trip to Medellin in 1999 a girl's mother told me to visit Cartagena, I said what? Travel Planet says beaches suck etc. She said," Oh you would like it!" with a shit ass grin on her face, I had no idea what she was talking about at the time, Medellin was insane then no need to go to Cartagena. Now that I look back I wish I would have went.

You guys don't quite understand why the Colombians wanted to bust them, the US government looks down their noses as the moral posted child but yet all the drugs go there. Then the Colombians tell the USA to quit snorting and smoking the stuff and we wouldn't have a problem here. Then this happens with Hookahs! Hilarious. The Goody goodies got busted. Now it seems they found drugs in a guys room the lid is ready to blow off.

Conflicting stories about where the girl came from, I doubt the girl works ar Pleyclub typically only 5-7s there, taxi driver says she was private escort, in time one of you will come up with the agency name.

Someone asked to see the pictures. Here is the one, we are told, at the center of it all. To each his own, but I am not impressed.

[QUOTE=Doker44;1271262]I know nothing about Colombia, only monger in Europe, CR, DR. Is this 800 dollar claim legit? Do some girls there ask for that or get that. I have never heard of such thing from any monger I have ever met. Any place I have been they wouldn't even think it much less say it? This has got to be total BS! Right?[/QUOTE]Not bullshit if she is from private agency. Conflicting stories about where she works and what the bill was but I am thinking Escort agency. Pleyclub doesn't have 21 girls working there at least to my knowledge and if they did they would have cleaned the place out and the girl wouldn't have cost that much, and as John said the high end girls in Cartagena are 250 US per night for 9s and 10s, the LDV girls are the B team for the most part with an occasional 9 or 10.

Again this board keeps on going about prices. Money is always a relative term my friend. As I have always believed.

Do you think people who pay 3 times more money for a little bigger seat in an airline to fly first class are all insane. After all the airline gets you to the same location your flight time is many times no more then 5 hours. So why pay $1, 000 for a flight when you can pay only $250 for it and still get to the same location in the same 5 hour time. In some instances people are willing and able to pay $5, 000 for a first class airline ticket instead of paying like $1, 500 for flight flying economy.

My friend I am sure you will not call all those people insane for paying for a little extra comfort.

Money is a relative term and to each his own.

I will not post photos of the girls on this board but for those of you who honestly feel like they are willing and able to spend 200 mil for like 2 to 3 hour session and 400 mil to 500 mil for all night you can send me a PM and I will send the photos to you.

By the way the photos of the girl posted who was with the SS agent, I am willing to pay that quality girl no more then 150 mil for 2 hours and 300 mil for all night just for your reference.

Best Regards,

John.

[QUOTE=Doker44;1271281]Thanks for the Response very interesting. WOW! I am shocked, even these prices you mentioned are insane. I had no idea the prices were that high in Colombia. Believe me I am not knocking you but I wouldn't be traveling for those prices, yes they maybe good looking but there comes a point for me where I just feel like I am getting ripped off and wouldn't be able to enjoy it. I mean hell if I went around offering random hot girls in the us that were working part time or college students 250-300 I would find takers.[/QUOTE]

It took me a while to learn my lesson, but after being over charged when I asked for my final bar bill I learned to pay for each round right away. I remember one time in one of the higher end bars (Isis) getting a bill for lady drinks that the guys I was with did not order. Yes they were talking to a few girls, but

I know they did not OK any drink orders. Two of the 3 guys I was with were young, and of good size so it was not hard to walk away from the bouncer who tried to Bogart us into being ripped off.

As far as the SS ruining CTG to me that place is overpriced anyway so let them keep it for people like the clueless SS goons.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1270778]You and MHL are in " legend" status", I'm just in " veteran status". Give me another ten years and I will catch up, amigo.[/QUOTE]With close to 1500 posts, and your own forum in the DR you my friend are already a legend.

I hope guys like you don't disapear like so many other past legends.

After all someone has to help us navigate the tricky Monger waters.

Yesterday, the New York Times interviewed one of the Colombian escorts whose services were paid for by a Secret Service agent during last week's Summit of the Americas in Cartagena. She felt that she'the been portrayed as a typical streetwalking prostitute, and she insisted that her own approach to the oldest profession is much more up to date:

'It's the same, but it's different, ' she said, indicating that she is much more selective about her clients and charges much more than a streetwalker. 'It's like when you buy a fine rum or a BlackBerry or an iPhone. They have a different price. '

In Colombia, where I'm from, these escorts are called prepagos, or 'prepaid women, ' a phenomenon that exploded in Colombia in the late '90s. After inciting some mild outrage, the term and the profession quickly infiltrated popular culture. The popular perception in Colombia is that prepagos don't do it out of necessity; the escort involved with an agent was charging about $800 for the night—or $1. 6 million pesos, an especially large sum in Colombia.

Many of these escorts have professional websites and popular Twitter accounts. They take credit cards and offer free delivery. Often they come from affluent families and have been to college, which they market as a prized and rare asset. One of the websites, Las Universitarias, or 'College Girls' (that link is not safe for work, in case you had any doubt) , whose slogan is 'beauty and culture in bed, ' offers the option to translate the site into English. These services are offered mostly in larger cities like Bogotá, Cali, and Medellíand; prostitution in more remote areas is much more driven by displacement due to poverty or violence. (Colombia has the second largest population of internally displaced people in the world, behind Sudan.)

The infrastructure behind the prepago industry is massive and problematic, with ties to both corporate and drug money. Telenovelas about escorts and drug lords, like Sin Tetas No Hay Paraíso (No Heaven Without Tits) , have proliferated in Colombia in recent years, gathering huge audiences. Drugs are Colombia's curse, and beauty, especially feminine beauty, is an obsession in Colombian culture—even more so than it is in the United States. Colombia is known to be a plastic surgery haven, where children as young as 14 get breast implants. Miss Universe and Miss Colombia are the most watched shows on TV year-round; soccer matches are their only real competition. It is not uncommon for finalists of the Miss Colombia pageant to go straight into jobs as newscasters.

Prepagos have become enormously popular in Colombia, and there is little public shame in the country about what they do. Women from all socioeconomic backgrounds prostitute themselves for a wide range of reasons, which are constantly changing. It's in this context that high-paid escorts, flaunting their wares on professional websites and on Twitter, thrive.

I have seen much better and classier looking women available for much less than the $800. 00 quoted. Just me thinking, but it might be possible the media heard 800, but perhaps it was 800K instead of dollars. I have been to Cartagena and Bogota many times and the girls at Ottos, Lalos and La Mansion are very top notch and they could top out at around 500K with agreement around 350K. Just a thought, it would not be the first time the media exaggerated to make the story even more sensational.

I just got back before the SS arrived in town and I am ready to head back. Friends really want to hear my adventures about Cartagena and I have to tell them $800 would price me out of the market and I have yet run into anybody trying to set me up with a 14 year old. I counter back to them by asking hey I heard you went to Vegas, or LA, or Chicago, New York, Atlanta, Miami. There are many hookers and high priced girls in those cities and everyone knows it."How did you score with them, any pictures?" How much, etc. Point being, it happens all over the world, but perception is 100% reality to many.

I can keep my grin at work and think about the City of Cartagena and remember those that I have paid and those that I had for free (thanks to my wife). It gets me through the week.

My wingman last September met up with a ISIS favorite he has been with on previous trips and was 150k pesos for short time in 2009-10. He hooked up with her in apartment thinking he would spend the week with her. She wanted 4 or 500 dollars per day plus expenses, needless to say he sent her back to ISIS. She went hard core on him. No idea who is paying this much other than the dumb gringo I met who paid the fat chic 400 dollars for sex and cock blocked me from big foot.

How much would you guys pay for this girl at the 4 minute mark. Finest colombian all time:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su4Aq0X_zT0[/url]

Couple of words on pricing. This March from my experience: ST 50K to 100K, TLN 100K to 150K.

Takeout from where you take girls out is 150K. If you don't ask or negotiate then girls charge 200K per hour.

What happened is totally insane and is not about money.

[QUOTE=Doker44;1271262]I know nothing about Colombia, only monger in Europe, CR, DR. Is this 800 dollar claim legit? Do some girls there ask for that or get that. I have never heard of such thing from any monger I have ever met. Any place I have been they wouldn't even think it much less say it? This has got to be total BS! Right?[/QUOTE]A DR chica in Juan Dolio asked US$300 (in English) when I was talking to some local boys. I responded in Spanish that the going rate in Juan Dolio is 500 pesos. I added that I live on the North Coast. She quickly apologized for mistaking me for a tourist. LOL. I can see a chica asking US$800 from the right North American tourist flashing $$$. She might get US$500.

I call bullshit. That chica is not a "model", looks more like a typical La Dolce Ho that gets 150-300 depending on how weak the buyer is. From the beach. 120-150, 000. Now you will see her in Playboy and she will get her little bit of fame. Cartagena is probably overrun by idiot gringoes that will either try to get free pussy based on how pretty they are to coked up rich boys that like to spend mucho $ to impress the girls. Next you will see Tony on the front page sayin "yu no trusta me, me frieeen". I am going back today (live there) , probably will head to Cali, too much junkie drama in Cartagena. 7-8 tyears ago I saw some REAL models in Bogota, asking price then was 1, 000, 000 and up. No, didn't do it, all were silicaned, not what I like.

[QUOTE=HelpRules; 1271586]How much would you guys pay for this girl at the 4 minute mark. Finest colombian all time:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su4Aq0X_zT0[/url][/QUOTE]Each person has their own idea of finest. In my opion, and it just my preferences, she would be a 250K. 300K chica. I am sure she might have somebody willing to pay more, but I have had better for less. I was fixed up with a former teen model that had such a beautiful face and body that took me for 150K. She was 20 at the time and she had appeared in some Colombia print. It all goes back to what is one's preference and what they are willing to pay for their fantasy girl.

The dude was just a dumb ass, he was a supervisor, a former Sarah Palin bodyguard who posted a pic on his Facebook page staring at her ass, he is Married with a teenage son, WTF is a Secret Service Agent doing with a Facebook Page? Good luck on his marriage, I hope at least one of the news networks pay him for an interview so we can get the full details.

Never tried the scene in Cartagena, but this ad from Spirit Airlines is going to send a horde of newbies down there, ruining any chance of value for money.

[QUOTE=Novio;1271852]Never tried the scene in Cartagena, but this ad from Spirit Airlines is going to send a horde of newbies down there, ruining any chance of value for money.[/QUOTE]The problem with Colombia is that it is too close to America. If Colombia was a further 1000miles south Spirit Airlines would not be flying there. Do not worry Spirit Airlines will be bankrupt within 5 years.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1271804]The dude he is Married with a teenage son. Good luck on his marriage, I hope at least one of the news networks pay him for an interview so we can get the full details.[/QUOTE]All the details needed is to see a picture of the SS agent's wife, and the price he paid might start to make more sense.

How long will it be before Dateline, 20/20, or 60 minutes does an hour long "investigative report" into the prostitution in Cartagena? That's the normal chain of events when a news topic is this hot. I already saw one clip showing some girls walking up the stairs to LDV, and 2-3 gringos standing nearby. Do you want that to be you? When they take their hidden cameras inside PleyClub or any other monger joint to talk to the girls and give everyone an inside look, do you want to be one of the guys inside?

Try explaining that one to your wife, family, friends, co-workers. Think with the bighead for once guys.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1271403]Not bullshit if she is from private agency. Conflicting stories about where she works and what the bill was but I am thinking Escort agency. Pleyclub doesn't have 21 girls working there at least to my knowledge and if they did they would have cleaned the place out and the girl wouldn't have cost that much, and as John said the high end girls in Cartagena are 250 US per night for 9s and 10s, the LDV girls are the B team for the most part with an occasional 9 or 10.[/QUOTE]Where are the high end Cartagena girls, Fragma?

[QUOTE=Paracite;1271901]Where are the high end Cartagena girls, Fragma?[/QUOTE]To my knowlege yes and now that the media has informed me pussy has gone to privatization, do a Twitter Search for Colombia Prepagos or Cartagena Prepagos, shit I don't have enough time to look at them all.

And [url]http://globalfantasies.com/cartagena.htm[/url]

[url]http://universalfantasies.com/cartagena.htm[/url]

[url]http://co-en.colombiascortvip.com/escort_cartagena.htm[/url]

I know the bouncer at Mr. Babilas has some talent he shows pics on his smart phone.

[QUOTE=TheShadow2; 1271880]How long will it be before Dateline. 20/20, or 60 minutes does an hour long "investigative report" into the prostitution in Cartagena? That's the normal chain of events when a news topic is this hot. I already saw one clip showing some girls walking up the stairs to LDV, and 2-3 gringos standing nearby. Do you want that to be you? When they take their hidden cameras inside PleyClub or any other monger joint to talk to the girls and give everyone an inside look, do you want to be one of the guys inside?

Try explaining that one to your wife, family, friends, co-workers. Think with the bighead for once guys.[/QUOTE]A bunch of young kids still in their beach shorts at the bottom of the stairs, I saw the video also.

There was a fat gringa preaching last weekend on TV about how," It is a slap in the face to every woman in America." She needs to hit the treadmill her ass was bigger than the front end of my car.

It will bring Prostitution back to the debate table which it should be. My Great grandmother was the Queen of the Pimps during the Great Depression in Detroit, my cousin and I laugh that she was an entrepreneur.

Otier, how do you get access to these girls that do pageants for only 150. Can you go to these bikini contests and just mingle.

[QUOTE=LocoGringo;1271716]all were silicaned, not what I like.[/QUOTE]IMO, that's one of the major drawbacks with far too many beautiful Colombianas, they go and get those BS aftermarket silicone jobs and totally ruin it for me. WTF are they thinking?

With those horrid aftermarket titties, I'd walk away.

[QUOTE=HelpRules; 1271586]How much would you guys pay for this girl at the 4 minute mark. Finest colombian all time:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su4Aq0X_zT0[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1271906]To my knowlege yes and now that the media has informed me pussy has gone to privatization, do a Twitter Search for Colombia Prepagos or Cartagena Prepagos, shit I don't have enough time to look at them all.

And.

[url]http://globalfantasies.com/cartagena.htm[/url]

[url]http://universalfantasies.com/cartagena.htm[/url]

[url]http://co-en.colombiascortvip.com/escort_cartagena.htm[/url]

I know the bouncer at Mr. Babilas has some talent he shows pics on his smart phone.[/QUOTE]Anyone try Global fantasies or Universal fantasies? They look the same to me.

[QUOTE=Superboy1;1271867]The problem with Colombia is that it is too close to America. If Colombia was a further 1000miles south Spirit Airlines would not be flying there. Do not worry Spirit Airlines will be bankrupt within 5 years.[/QUOTE]They can make to Brazil with new airbus delivery, je-je. The problem is America is too far away from Colombia chicas-wise.

[QUOTE=Hong Kong Boy;1272007]Anyone try Global fantasies or Universal fantasies? They look the same to me.[/QUOTE]Those both look like scam sites. I have used colombiascort in Medellin with good success, Sara was really fun

A lot of their pictures are fake. For instance,"Shana", on the Universal Fantasy page, is actually Arielle Kebbel, an actress in "American Pie Band Camp","John Tucker Must Die, etc."

You can see the exact same photo here: [url]http://ariellekebbelimages.********.com/[/url]

Global Fantasies photos are also just random models pulled from the internet, but at least on that site they don't assign them fake names.

You can see some of their "escorts" here:[url]http://sfw.org.ua/index.php?newsid=1148962384[/url]

I think we're all in agreement that escort services like these are only for guys who have a lot of money and don't mind wasting it.

[QUOTE=Paracite;1272040]Those both look like scam sites. I have used colombiascort in Medellin with good success, Sara was really fun[/QUOTE]I stole them off a Website that uses my map so I stole their links, I still think the twitter search would be better, Cartagena's version of Romance Latina.

[QUOTE=Polyorchid;1272004]With those horrid aftermarket titties, I'd walk away.[/QUOTE]Those are real thats why she is so incredible. You can tell by her frame and the way they fall.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1272219]I stole them off a Website that uses my map so I stole their links, I still think the twitter search would be better, Cartagena's version of Romance Latina.[/QUOTE]Haha, you should request a session with one of their supermodels in return for your map

[QUOTE=TheShadow2; 1272217]A lot of their pictures are fake. For instance,"Shana", on the Universal Fantasy page, is actually Arielle Kebbel, an actress in "American Pie Band Camp","John Tucker Must Die, etc."

You can see the exact same photo here:

[url]http://ariellekebbelimages.********.com/[/url]

Global Fantasies photos are also just random models pulled from the internet, but at least on that site they don't assign them fake names.

You can see some of their "escorts" here:

[url]http://sfw.org.ua/index.php?newsid=1148962384[/url]

I think we're all in agreement that escort services like these are only for guys who have a lot of money and don't mind wasting it.[/QUOTE]Thanks! I don't think my wife will let me go to Cartagena now anyway.

My friend, mongering is an addiction. It starts off slowly and then it becomes a way of life. You are better off without it.

Don't worry rest of us will make sure that Colombian Women are taken care off without you. LOL.

But Honestly, I am in same shoes as you are but I find a way. You have to be creative enough. The art in this matter is not to make it a big deal at all.

If you think too much about your travels to Colombia you will never be able to do so. I don't know which line of work you are in, but think of a way that a trip can be justified in a work related atmosphere. Their are many other cities in Colombia which have better options for Women like Medellin.

Lastly, if you absolutely have to tell your wife where you are travelling to then you are better off not cheating on her. As their is a good chance she will find out eventually and then you will have to explain.

IMHO, mongers who are married live in a fantasy world thinking their wives don't know what their men are up to. If you are married to some one for more then 5+ years they can tell just by looking at your facial expression as to what you are thinking. It is not that women don't know what us men are doing but in my opinion many women knowingly look the other way.

Regards,

John.

[QUOTE=Hong Kong Boy;1272394]Thanks! I don't think my wife will let me go to Cartagena now anyway.[/QUOTE]

Recent news report on the Cartagena hooker scandal: it was a female Secret Service agent that blew the whistle. She found out about it and told on the male agents. I'm not surprised.

[quote=rio d;1272660]recent news report on the cartagena hooker scandal: it was a female secret service agent that blew the whistle. she found out about it and told on the male agents. i'm not surprised.[/quote]she was in charge of south america operations, a 20 year veteran. could she have squash it? maybe. should she had risked her career for some dumb horny assed agents? no. from my understanding she ordered the agents home, which was a good call, but i don't think she went public with that. it somehow was leaked and the press got a hold of it. the agents should have pooled some money and ended it at the hotel. but they tried to pull rank and bully the situation, and it got out of hand.

what pisses me off more is that the media always plays the **** angle when investigating our sport like we are all a bunch of predators. if they read the forum they would see we frown on such behavior.

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1271927]Otier, how do you get access to these girls that do pageants for only 150. Can you go to these bikini contests and just mingle.[/QUOTE]I have no idea. I have never been to one and have no plans to attend. Why go to one when there is so much more outside.

If my memory serves me right on the night before JFK was killed some of his SS men were drunk in a night spot in Texas. If you have watched the event you can see the first person to react to the attack was the First Lady, not the SS. Nothing was done to them. Now before the President was to appear there is a problem with a girl in CTG, and all hell breaks loose. I guess a scandel before a election is worse than a President getting zapped.

BTW Many the times I have had a problem with service from a SW, but I just bit the bullet, and paid her off. I do this without even a top secret clearance to protect.

[quote=black page; 1269114]i am author of 570 reports on isg. if the average is 2-3 reports per experience, i have reported about 250+ experiences with working ladies (gosh! i never counted.). i never tried cocaine in my life though. thumbs up for those guys out of the sex prison.

ps: and yes, learn this is colombia. in columbia you go to prison if you give 50 bucks to a girl.[/quote]italia is spelled italy in english, colombia is spelled columbia in english, says on the coffee pots from columbia in my store, also says it in my text to speech cell phone and computer, it's columbia in english get over it cabeca de pene, in english that's dickhead!

[QUOTE=Hong Kong Boy;1272394]Thanks! I don't think my wife will let me go to Cartagena now anyway.[/QUOTE]Good thing these A holes didn't put up a stink in Brasil otherwise I would be up sheets creak too. They are just arrogant A holes who don't know how to play the game and be discreet, I think they learned a life lesson here, good for them.

[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/cartagenas-night-life-spelled-trouble-for-secret-service/2012/04/22/gIQAUMWpaT_story.html[/url]

I don't know what pisses me off more: the fake moral outrage that the MSM continues to fuelatthis story (see the linked article) or the fact that USSS agents were STUPID enough to turn an everyday transaction in CO into an international firestorm! It's fuckin unreal that SS guys w / all their trainin & the intel that they have access to, couldn't figure out how to discretely score trim in CTG! And how much do they pay these cats that they had to pool what was in their pockets in order to make the chica leave? BTW, since when don't military guys know what to do w / CTG chicas? I can remember visitin one of the casas on my first trip down there & the place bein packed w / off-duty soldiers.

I could go on & onatamazingly dumb this incident was, but what really sickens me is that how the media manages to somehow attack prostitution be / see of it! This article somehow brings up the exploitation of minors, yet the SS situation of course only involves adult chicas that all left their cedulas w / hotel security! What's so fuckin 'embarrassin'atthe primary source of economic independence for single women in that & many other countries around the world. In 2012 the general population is still makin a big deal out of guys seein workin girls in a country where the shit is perfectly legal – really?

I do get the point that this is an issue be / see these guys were in the country to prepare for the POTUS' arrival. But the funny thing is that if they had done some diligence on the CTG P4P scene, they could have gotten their rocks off before AF1 landed & avoided makin the POTUS look bad.

[QUOTE=John; 1272468]My friend, mongering is an addiction. It starts off slowly and then it becomes a way of life. You are better off without it.

Don't worry rest of us will make sure that Colombian Women are taken care off without you. LOL.

But Honestly, I am in same shoes as you are but I find a way. You have to be creative enough. The art in this matter is not to make it a big deal at all.

If you think too much about your travels to Colombia you will never be able to do so. I don't know which line of work you are in, but think of a way that a trip can be justified in a work related atmosphere. Their are many other cities in Colombia which have better options for Women like Medellin.

Lastly, if you absolutely have to tell your wife where you are travelling to then you are better off not cheating on her. As their is a good chance she will find out eventually and then you will have to explain.

IMHO, mongers who are married live in a fantasy world thinking their wives don't know what their men are up to. If you are married to some one for more then 5+ years they can tell just by looking at your facial expression as to what you are thinking. It is not that women don't know what us men are doing but in my opinion many women knowingly look the other way.

Regards,

John.[/QUOTE]What you are saying are very truth! I think my wife know but look the other way. I just can not tell her I wants to go to Cartagena now with all the news.

It is just too bad for me since I think Colombia have some of the most beautiful lady in the world!

in any language, you fool!

the country, not the district, not the ivy-league university or the s. c. city.

i'm embarrased for you.

[quote=que rico;1273042]italia is spelled italy in english, colombia is spelled columbia in english, says on the coffee pots from columbia in my store, also says it in my text to speech cell phone and computer, it's columbia in english get over it cabeca de pene, in english that's dickhead![/quote]

[quote=que rico;1273042]colombia is spelled columbia in english, says on the coffee pots from columbia in my store, also says it in my text to speech cell phone and computer, it's columbia in english get over it cabeca de pene, in english that's dickhead![/quote]i'm not sure a coffee pot or a text to speech application are good sources for the proper english spelling of colombia. if "columbia" is the proper english spelling of "colombia", then the webster's english dictionary has a spelling error.

[QUOTE=Lmarcone; 1273171]In any language, you fool!

The country, not the District, not the Ivy-League University or the S. C. City.

I'm embarrased for you.[/QUOTE]David_33 mentioned I should drop by the Cartagena thread and have a laugh / read about the Obama's agents etc given that the mongers here had a good viewpoint on it. Instead you are having a spelling bee contest!

QR. I agree with the others, sometimes I wish Jackson would have a spell check function to possibly avoid this event.

http://gosouthamerica.about.com/cs/colombia/l/blcitiesmap.htm

Clearly you buy your coffee from odd places QR.

Ho hum, back to the Philippines.

[quote=que rico;1273042]italia is spelled italy in english, colombia is spelled columbia in english, says on the coffee pots from columbia in my store, also says it in my text to speech cell phone and computer, it's columbia in english get over it cabeca de pene, in english that's dickhead![/quote][quote=lmarcone; 1273171]colombia.

in any language, you fool!

the country, not the district, not the ivy-league university or the s. c. city.

i'm embarrased for you.[/quote]i say we go with the coffee pot spelling haha.

really though, i ditto lmarcone.

[QUOTE=Hong Kong Boy;1272007]Anyone try Global fantasies or Universal fantasies? They look the same to me.[/QUOTE]I have tried the other escort page mentioned, Colombia VIP. Bad experience, indeed. First, the one I wanted could not show up. I was waiting about 1 h. In Zona Norte. Then they sent the one called Dina, supposed to be top of the line. She smelled worse than any hooker I have ever met! I had to send her away with unfinished business.

I think you have to play hard with these guys if you order.

I prefer LDV or Isis. If not, the good alternatives are in the port. (Donde R, e. G.)

To change to the Topic!

Just got back from my tenth trip to Cartagena, over the past 10 years; but the last one was about two years ago. Noticed a lot of changes!

I've had a lot of our members such as David and Roger help me along so I thought I'll pass on some of my own:

There are a lot of new Hotels being built now-to be ready in the next couple of years-many 5 star type like the Sheritan and International. New Law where you cannot rent Condo's in the best buildings is now in effect. Can always find some in condo-hotels in Laguito or Palmetto in Boccagrande. The Chicas are asking for mucho dinero at LDV; which I refused to give. Finally found a few more reasonable ones towards closing time. Also after midnight across from Tu Candela. These were my two best spots. Tony at the beach is ripping off tourists like candy. Such a Scumbag. You're better off taking a walk along the beach and picking up. Picked up a couple of gems just walking around Boccagrande in the afternoon. My chicas were sensational; nothing compares to the latins!

This last trip I stayed in a shit hole condo in Laquito although it had a great view and close to LDV I would never stay there again.

I would definitely recommend two other good, chica friendly hotels:

1. The Lee Hotel in the Old City is really good. At less than $100 and about a 3* plus its the best bargain around. Clean and Airy rooms with a small pool and patio on the roof. Its minutes from the downtown Old City core by foot and you walk by the University and Park where many a student are looking to make a few bucks to cover expenses.

2. The Orr Hotel is about 3 months old and is easily a 4 * plus. Its 3 blocks from the beach and a 3 minute cab ride from LDV. Its got a small Pool and Patio and you can bring guests there. Its perfect for partying. Its also got a Hot tub and Breakfast is included all for about $135 p night.

I met the owner Al and he was very helpful and spoke perfect English. I told him he should contact Jackson about advertizing his places (and he also has a 5* place). He said he would and consider giving Members a discount. Until he gets it up, sic. If you bbm me I'll send you his email.

Also, got stopped once for a spot check but no problems; as I don't do drugs and the chica had proper I'd.

Have Fun and Stay Safe!

I would appreciate any info someone experienced can give. I am heading to Cartagena today and would like to know around what time is good to go to some of the places? I know Elektra only opens after 3am, LDV after midnight, but how about Tu Candela? The normal bars Cafe del Mar and Casa de la cerveza? Also where is the place to go in the early evening, around 8pm? Thanks for the info and will write a report when I get back. Any additional info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Viper10

Tony? Tony Montana? Hahaha. Hes just a fool. What kind of scam does he have running now? Please let me know.

I personally recommend Donde R. They have great selection and good prices. And no bullshit. Its a *****house, simple as that. LDV and Isis is OK, too, but you must know your way around. Max. 100t is what I pay.

Having lived in C for about 2 years and speaking Spanish since childhood it is easier, despite my "Gringo" looks.

[QUOTE=Tank Not Mt; 1273418]To change to the Topic!

Just got back from my tenth trip to Cartagena, over the past 10 years; but the last one was about two years ago. Noticed a lot of changes!

I've had a lot of our members such as David and Roger help me along so I thought I'll pass on some of my own:

There are a lot of new Hotels being built now-to be ready in the next couple of years-many 5 star type like the Sheritan and International. New Law where you cannot rent Condo's in the best buildings is now in effect. Can always find some in condo-hotels in Laguito or Palmetto in Boccagrande. The Chicas are asking for mucho dinero at LDV; which I refused to give. Finally found a few more reasonable ones towards closing time. Also after midnight across from Tu Candela. These were my two best spots. Tony at the beach is ripping off tourists like candy. Such a Scumbag. You're better off taking a walk along the beach and picking up. Picked up a couple of gems just walking around Boccagrande in the afternoon. My chicas were sensational; nothing compares to the latins!

This last trip I stayed in a shit hole condo in Laquito although it had a great view and close to LDV I would never stay there again.

I would definitely recommend two other good, chica friendly hotels:

1. The Lee Hotel in the Old City is really good. At less than $100 and about a 3* plus its the best bargain around. Clean and Airy rooms with a small pool and patio on the roof. Its minutes from the downtown Old City core by foot and you walk by the University and Park where many a student are looking to make a few bucks to cover expenses.

2. The Orr Hotel is about 3 months old and is easily a 4 * plus. Its 3 blocks from the beach and a 3 minute cab ride from LDV. Its got a small Pool and Patio and you can bring guests there. Its perfect for partying. Its also got a Hot tub and Breakfast is included all for about $135 p night.

I met the owner Al and he was very helpful and spoke perfect English. I told him he should contact Jackson about advertizing his places (and he also has a 5* place). He said he would and consider giving Members a discount. Until he gets it up, sic. If you bbm me I'll send you his email.

Also, got stopped once for a spot check but no problems; as I don't do drugs and the chica had proper I'd.

Have Fun and Stay Safe![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Viper10; 1273648]I would appreciate any info someone experienced can give. I am heading to Cartagena today and would like to know around what time is good to go to some of the places? I know Elektra only opens after 3am, LDV after midnight, but how about Tu Candela? The normal bars Cafe del Mar and Casa de la cerveza? Also where is the place to go in the early evening, around 8pm? Thanks for the info and will write a report when I get back. Any additional info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Viper10[/QUOTE]In my experience, get to ldv around 11 or 1130. You're spot on for Electra but I couldn't tell you about the other places.

[QUOTE=Viper10; 1273648]I would appreciate any info someone experienced can give. I am heading to Cartagena today and would like to know around what time is good to go to some of the places? I know Elektra only opens after 3am, LDV after midnight, but how about Tu Candela? The normal bars Cafe del Mar and Casa de la cerveza? Also where is the place to go in the early evening, around 8pm? Thanks for the info and will write a report when I get back. Any additional info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Viper10[/QUOTE]Tu Candela 10 pm to 4 am, Cafe del Mar is good at sunset. 8 pm watch for early street talent or join a chiva rumba party, Isis opens at 9 pm. Also 8 pm may be good if you take a drive to a strip club (je-je)

[quote=que rico;1273042]italia is spelled italy in english, colombia is spelled columbia in english, says on the coffee pots from columbia in my store, also says it in my text to speech cell phone and computer, it's columbia in english get over it cabeca de pene, in english that's dickhead![/quote]rofl!
roflmao!
roflmaool!
my acronym list is over.

sorry to come late after so many fellow members have commented, but as already pointed out this is the most ignorant post i remember in a long time. embarrassing. ([i]cabeca[/i] is how your automated translator translates "head" to spanish?? now i understand.... roflmaool!)

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1273990]ROFL!

ROFLMAO!

ROFLMAOOL!

My acronym list is over.

Sorry to come late after so many fellow members have commented, but as already pointed out this is the most ignorant post I remember in a long time. Embarrassing. ([i]cabeca[/i] Is how your automated translator translates "head" to Spanish? Now I understand. ROFLMAOOL!) [/QUOTE]Ufff, I hope these kinds of mongers STAY in CTG! Please!

I wouldn't get to Tu Candela much before midnight especially these days when it's been particularly quiet. It closes at 3. 30am.

LDV: don't arrive before 11. 30pm IMO.

Elektra: 3. 30am. If you arrive at 3 on the dot it'll be you and the doorman.

I've never been to Cafe Del Mar as early as sunset, but I'd guess it's peak hours are around midnight. It's a difficult place to pick up, however.

[QUOTE=Questner;1273861]Tu Candela 10 pm to 4 am, Cafe del Mar is good at sunset. 8 pm watch for early street talent or join a chiva rumba party, Isis opens at 9 pm. Also 8 pm may be good if you take a drive to a strip club (je-je)[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1272683]She was in charge of South America operations, a 20 year veteran. Could she have squash it? Maybe. Should she had risked her career for some dumb horny assed agents? No. From my understanding she ordered the agents home, which was a good call, but I don't think she went public with that. It somehow was leaked and the press got a hold of it. The agents should have pooled some money and ended it at the hotel.[/QUOTE]FYI. The other agents DID put together money to give to the hooker. $255 USD, more than enough. She told the media that the agent "owed her $800". A ridiculous sum for any South American hooker, and way outside the CTG price range, as we all know. She's probably lying. Probably she pulled one of the common prostitute price scams. Negotiating the price in the local currency up front, then demanding to be paid in US dollars afterwards.

You're just speculating on whether the female SS superior acted against the Cartagena agents just to protect her position. Maybe she acted because she is an American woman, and that she was guided by the typical woman's attitude regarding men and hookers. In the past, when the chain of command in the SS was all male, prostitution incidents did not lead to scandals. In the past, male SS superiors chose a different response to prostitution reports. SS agents have done this before, many times, just more discreetly. They are just now reporting that SS agents went to strip clubs and partied with women in El Salvador, and also in Russia 12 years ago.

They did a story on the female SS supervisor. Turns out it was a judgement call, regulations did not demand that the agents be sent home for that kind of behavior. Also, they were part of the advance team. NOT the actual agents who protect the president.

They are now issuing a new SS standards and ethics policy. Even now the policy does not expressly forbid the patronizing of hookers. The rules "prohibit any foreign nationals from entering an agent's hotel room" and bans "patronization of non-reputable establishments." Drinking is still allowed while an agent is off duty, but not within ten hours of an assignment.

[QUOTE=Rio D; 1274553]FYI. The other agents DID put together money to give to the hooker. $255 USD, more than enough. She told the media that the agent "owed her $800". A ridiculous sum for any South American hooker, and way outside the CTG price range, as we all know. She's probably lying. Probably she pulled one of the common prostitute price scams. Negotiating the price in the local currency up front, then demanding to be paid in US dollars afterwards.

You're just speculating on whether the female SS superior acted against the Cartagena agents just to protect her position. Maybe she acted because she is an American woman, and that she was guided by the typical woman's attitude regarding men and hookers. In the past, when the chain of command in the SS was all male, prostitution incidents did not lead to scandals. In the past, male SS superiors chose a different response to prostitution reports. SS agents have done this before, many times, just more discreetly. They are just now reporting that SS agents went to strip clubs and partied with women in El Salvador, and also in Russia 12 years ago.

They did a story on the female SS supervisor. Turns out it was a judgement call, regulations did not demand that the agents be sent home for that kind of behavior. Also, they were part of the advance team. NOT the actual agents who protect the president.

They are now issuing a new SS standards and ethics policy. Even now the policy does not expressly forbid the patronizing of hookers. The rules "prohibit any foreign nationals from entering an agent's hotel room" and bans "patronization of non-reputable establishments." Drinking is still allowed while an agent is off duty, but not within ten hours of an assignment.[/QUOTE]My facts are straight Sir. The agents pooled their money AFTER they tried to bully the situation and it didn't work. The agents stood guard at the agents room and refused to let hotel security enter (look it up). Their tactics had probably worked many times before but not this time. When hotel security got involved they could have paid her off for 100 USD, but AFTER their bully tactics didn't work and the police arrived then the agents pooled their money Sir. She probably did try to scam the agents but I'm not going to give the agents a pass and blame everyone else as you have.

We can all speculate about the female agent motives, but she covered her ass. Maybe she doesn't follow the " Good ole boys rule" but the agents should have never put her in a position to make that call. The board has moved on beyond this story, and so should we.

[quote=que rico;1273042]italia is spelled italy in english, colombia is spelled columbia in english, says on the coffee pots from columbia in my store, also says it in my text to speech cell phone and computer, it's columbia in english get over it cabeca de pene, in english that's dickhead![/quote]is cabeca "cabeza" in english or are you stupid in both languages? columbia is a city in south carolina. colombia is a country in south america. look at your fucking globe that is written in english or maybe you should ask your "stupid phone.".

[QUOTE=Schmwrr 1; 1274439]. Go visit MiamiHeatLuver or Reefski in Medellin or Cali, as they will be very happy to give you a walking tour of the casas and nightlife, and it will be a fraction of the cost you would spend in Cartagena. Just send them a personal message. You will have yourself the guide of all guides.

I will be leaving here on the first part of the week for Aruba, but returning to Cartagena and El Rodadero the middle of May with a couple other members from the board here, so more good times will definitely be had. Let the party continue.[/QUOTE]Schmwrr, Brother you actually had a post make it through? Could be the start of something nice! Hahahahaha NO WAY! Newbie head to CTG, Send Schmwrr a pm, he would be happy to share his vast array of knowledge with you! IF the price is righ! Jaja

[QUOTE=Rio D;1274553]They are now issuing a new SS standards and ethics policy. Even now the policy does not expressly forbid the patronizing of hookers. The rules "prohibit any foreign nationals from entering an agent's hotel room" and bans "patronization of non-reputable establishments." Drinking is still allowed while an agent is off duty, but not within ten hours of an assignment.[/QUOTE]Except that the new policy states that US laws will be in effect for SS even when on foreign travel. Whoops.

[QUOTE=Schmwrr 1; 1274813]Great idea MiamiHeatLuver! I have no problem if someone wants to send me a p. M, maybe you should! But the fact of the matter is if someone is on a tight budget, but likes to party hard in bars / discos and so forth, the cities of Medellin and Cali would be a much better option for them, as Cartagena is very expensive, where as in Medellin or Cali you would be paying very close to 50 percent less for everything, girls, lodging, food in nice restaurants, and so forth.

A big benefit for anyone going to Medellin or Cali to find those paisa, calena lovers, in addition to saving a lot of money from what they would be spending in Cartagena, is they would get the best in guide services from you or Reefski, as both of you are very open to providing them walking tours, tours to the country side, and being a great information source for a newbee. Both of you are possibly the most helpful members on the entire Colombia board. With having either one of you providing guide services, the newbees will not have to be carrying around maps and papers with little notes on them.

Just came up to my condo to get another bottle of my Crown Royal Whiskey so the party can continue on the beach as the beach is filled with girls today, and the girls are feeling the effects of the whiskey and are getting wild and crazy! Fun times![/QUOTE]All well and good for you to pawn off those guys on other members. It would not hurt for you to share some of your coveted Crown Royal with guys less fortunate than you. Also all those Chicas from your private stock to share would also be a good deed for you to do. Who knows some day you may also be a broken down Monger like those two guys from North Carolina I saw you foot the bill for in CTG.

Get a grip, G.

Schmw,

I would appreciate a PM. Tired of LDV and others already. Any help would be kept under the radar. I'm a solo shopper.

Scroll down and listen to two parts of the interview, some questions are in English. Worth all 100 minutes. I have almost dropped my cup when heard her telling 'Tony es mejor amigo! '

[url]http://www.wradio.com.co/noticias/actualidad/los-puse-en-jaque-y-son-unos-bobos-dania-suarez/20120504/nota/1681978.aspx[/url]

[QUOTE=Questner; 1276930]Scroll down and listen to two parts of the interview, some questions are in English. Worth all 100 minutes. I have almost dropped my cup when heard her telling 'Tony es mejor amigo! '

[url]http://www.wradio.com.co/noticias/actualidad/los-puse-en-jaque-y-son-unos-bobos-dania-suarez/20120504/nota/1681978.aspx[/url][/QUOTE]Don't know about you guys, but I'm tired of this chica already, along with her $800 chocha and how she had to endure "los gringos bobos", and the disrespect.

Oh brother!

Not feeling any good energy from her.

At 12:48 or thereabouts, does she say that the agents managed to come up with the entire $800, or not? Later on she makes it clear that she only got $250, so I will go with that. This is a worthwhile interview, by the way.

And why would the interlocutors all refer to her as Ud, and why would she refer to all them as tu?

It doesn't have to be the same Tony, does it? 45:50

The interview is very well done by the interlocutor, I don't have his name right now. There is a very powerful portion at 47 minutes of Part 2, where Dania is asked what separates a prostitute from a something higher and different, a different sort of sex worker.

[QUOTE=Ricker;1277108]Don't know about you guys, but I'm tired of this chica already, along with her $800 chocha and how she had to endure "los gringos bobos", and the disrespect.[/QUOTE]The dude who offered her $30 and then kicked her ass out of the room is not only a bobo but a tacano as well. Screw his dumbass attitude!

[QUOTE=Polyorchid;1277256]The dude who offered her $30 and then kicked her ass out of the room is not only a bobo but a tacano as well. Screw his dumbass attitude![/QUOTE]I agree señor, those SS guys broke lots of rules of Mongering, especially this specific goof ball, and they ran into a hard core, chocha de oro puta as well.

The perfect storm for trouble, especially for guys on official biz.

It was obvious she was holding out on a lot of details and lying also. Like the fact that she and her friends were just out for a drink at a regular bar. Uh huh that's right she's not a hooker.

I am getting tired of this woman. How do we know he only offered 30 dollars? Why was the embassy called? Normally incidents like these are handled discreetly, yet the embassy was called? Once she was paid, that should have been the end of the matter. For obvious reasons the SS has gone silent so we only have one side and she was on nbc today bragging she could have stolen state secrets

800 freaking dollars for an average looking hooker, give me a break. There's more to this story

$800 and "more to the story". Dania Suarez confirmed just this week that there is indeed more to the story. She has representation and will reveal all exclusively to the highest bidder. What comes out will probably be fact checked carefully because whoever gets to publish will have to pay big money. There is a bidding war. About the $800. I think we all know the price is insane but we all also know nothing is off limits in Tony-land. She probably would have accepted market rate but the agents broke rule number one. They did not make a deal in advance. They broke other rules later, like not cutting their losses and paying to get rid of the girl. I think they all agree with that now, but it's too late for them now.

The embassy involvement. I do'nt see what's confusing about the embassy being brought in when local law enforcement discovered Secret Service agents were involved.

[QUOTE=Carrib; 1278227]I am getting tired of this woman. How do we know he only offered 30 dollars? Why was the embassy called? Normally incidents like these are handled discreetly, yet the embassy was called? Once she was paid, that should have been the end of the matter. For obvious reasons the SS has gone silent so we only have one side and she was on nbc today bragging she could have stolen state secrets

800 freaking dollars for an average looking hooker, give me a break. There's more to this story[/QUOTE]

I wonder if the Arabic Monger that took her to Dubai has any "pics" of her. If he does he should sell it quick and now to get the most money before she does Desnudos everywhere and pics can be gotten for free.

This entire debate is freaking hilarious! If Chica did ask for $800, you know who is to blame? All of the guys who like being played like boo boo the fool, paying $100 $200 or more for ST with a Prostitute in a country where the average income is less then $400 a month is insane.

Every time I am in Latin America, some jerk off is trying to hit me up with the so called Gringo tax, and I refuse to pay, so I ask myself, why on God's green earth are these boo boo's willing to self-imposing the tax upon themself. Thank God Colombia is a big country.

Then one guy here wants to compare paying 200 bucks for a Clombian hooker, to flying first class, I bet that same guy would pay $1800 for a first class ticket on United as opposed to paying $500 for the same first class ticket on Copa.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1278244]$800 and "more to the story". Dania Suarez confirmed just this week that there is indeed more to the story. She has representation and will reveal all exclusively to the highest bidder. What comes out will probably be fact checked carefully because whoever gets to publish will have to pay big money. There is a bidding war. About the $800. I think we all know the price is insane but we all also know nothing is off limits in Tony-land. She probably would have accepted market rate but the agents broke rule number one. They did not make a deal in advance. They broke other rules later, like not cutting their losses and paying to get rid of the girl. I think they all agree with that now, but it's too late for them now.[/QUOTE]I just saw the interview and am sick of this skank reaping her 15 minutes of fame. Just picturing her trying to be classy while having a cock in her mouth on a daily basis. That being said we all agree that this dumbshit really screwed up when he negotiated if he did at all. One commentary I got from the Argentina section that should be in mind of us all I wish to share.

"If you go along with what she asks, she'll think you're weak and / or a dumbshit, and she'll give you service accordingly. Bargaining (of course always in a friendly manner) establishes respect. And respect is key to getting good treatment from women (pro or non-pro)"

"In my mongering experience, the few times I've paid the chick's asking price, the experience has ended up being bad. I think it's a matter of respect. If you just give in and pay what she wants, she thinks you're a loser, and will treat you as such. If you bargain with her (but in a congenial way) she will respect you more, and will give you a better experience. Women (including pros) don't like pushovers."

From Daddy Rulz: "The way chicas respect strong men and hold weakness in contempt is a subject that can never be overstated. If you have her thinking she needs to impress you to get the dollars, then you're half way to a good fuck for less money. If on the other hand she senses blood in the water like the perfect predator she is, you're chum."

Enough said!

I have tried to not fan the flames of the ridiculous info that has come from this ho and some of the comments made. You are listening to some taxi drivers and an "average" ho's insights into what this fiasco is about. She is at best a 200, 000 peso ho that most would turn down since she is far from a model type. She tried to screw the guys in question money wise and they are not in a position to reply because of their job. So, all the brilliant minds are using this ho's and some money grabbin lawyers, and some taxi drivers, comments to base what really happened. This kind of bullshit has also happened to other foolish mongers in many countries before. This chica was in lala land if she thought anybody in their right mind would pay her more than 300, 000, even drunken gringoes.

Well this is her version. How many guys have EVER heard a girl quote $800 in Colombia or anywhere in LA for that matter:

[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/07/dania-londono-suarez-alle_n_1495769.html[/url]

Almost 20 pages of discussion on some US SS agents and some stupid ho.

I am not American and couldn't care less about this crap. I am interested in Cartagena, and sex tourism there so for the love of god and all the members on here. Lets talk about the topic this forum is intended for. If you want to continue talking about US SS then perhaps get a seperate thread created.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Kute Guy; 1279168]Almost 20 pages of discussion on some US SS agents and some stupid ho.

I am not American and couldn't care less about this crap. I am interested in Cartagena, and sex tourism there so for the love of god and all the members on here. Lets talk about the topic this forum is intended for. If you want to continue talking about US SS then perhaps get a seperate thread created.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Not a problem at all. Let's start with your report on Cartagena (or anywhere for that matter.)

Which ATM in Laguito will allow you to withdraw the most $$$ at one time? I know the ATM in the casino next to LDV would allow you to take a ton out at one time, but not sure if that is still the case. Thanks!

This agent was drunk as shit. Thats why there was a problem. I actually agree with the girl. I think she said 800 for all night and he agreed. Not really knowing what he agreed to until he was sober. When you are a ss agent, you have a new mongering rule most don't have: NEVER drink and monger. He threw away a 100k year job to protect the dumbest most unqualified president ever.

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1281392]This agent was drunk as shit. Thats why there was a problem. I actually agree with the girl. I think she said 800 for all night and he agreed. Not really knowing what he agreed to until he was sober. When you are a ss agent, you have a new mongering rule most don't have: NEVER drink and monger. He threw away a 100k year job to protect the dumbest most unqualified president ever.[/QUOTE]Truth has never been spoken any better, on all points.

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1281392]This agent was drunk as shit. Thats why there was a problem. I actually agree with the girl. I think she said 800 for all night and he agreed. Not really knowing what he agreed to until he was sober. When you are a ss agent, you have a new mongering rule most don't have: NEVER drink and monger. He threw away a 100k year job to protect the dumbest most unqualified president ever.[/QUOTE]

I am curious. Why add the last sentence in a post? It's just an invitation for an unproductive and divisive political discussion. Let me simply suggest that we don't allow the unfortunate inclusion of a political opinion to start a shit storm. Just to balance the table, some feel that our president is the smartest and most qualified president ever.

Only good energy!

According to several surveys, both Obama and Romney are currently earning about 45% support.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1281531]I am curious. Why add the last sentence in a post? It's just an invitation for an unproductive and divisive political discussion. Let me simply suggest that we don't allow the unfortunate inclusion of a political opinion to start a shit storm. Just to balance the table, some feel that our president is the smartest and most qualified president ever.

Only good energy![/QUOTE]

My guess is that our President's IQ and training, including school, is WELL above most posting. Since I know there is no prejudice involved wonder what those statements are based on. Yeah, shit storm it is. If it wasn't for the SS shit and mansion groupies there wouldn't be mant posts on Colombia.

[QUOTE=Paracite;1281355]Which ATM in Laguito will allow you to withdraw the most $$$ at one time? I know the ATM in the casino next to LDV would allow you to take a ton out at one time, but not sure if that is still the case. Thanks![/QUOTE]None to my knowledge. All dispense max 400K. City branches dispense 1M but there is no City ATM in Laguito. Horus Casino will exchange cash into pesos.

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1281392]This agent was drunk as shit. Thats why there was a problem. I actually agree with the girl. I think she said 800 for all night and he agreed. Not really knowing what he agreed to until he was sober. When you are a ss agent, you have a new mongering rule most don't have: NEVER drink and monger. He threw away a 100k year job to protect the dumbest most unqualified president ever.[/QUOTE]There is much much more to the story. Don't be so naive.

[url]http://noticias.univision.com/estados-unidos/noticias/article/2012-05-10/dos-menores-denunciaron-colombiana-escandalo-sexual?page=2[/url]#axzz1uzqgcmmk

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1281392]When you are a ss agent, you have a new mongering rule most don't have: NEVER drink and monger. He threw away a 100k year job...[/QUOTE]100K? When I interviewed for the position a few years ago nothing even close to 100K was on the table.

Okay. 90k after 5 years and 95k after 10 years. Bonuses for speaking other languages. If you apply at 25, you're making 90k at 30yo. Not bad work if you can get it.

[url]http://www.whatsmyincome.com/2010/03/money-secret-service-agents/[/url]

[QUOTE=Paracite;1281355]Which ATM in Laguito will allow you to withdraw the most $$$ at one time? I know the ATM in the casino next to LDV would allow you to take a ton out at one time, but not sure if that is still the case. Thanks![/QUOTE]The new one at the La Dolce / Casino (outside3) is servibanco, you can get up to 780, 000 but with an extra 5500 charge. Just out of Laguito you get up to 720, 000 at Davienda. 400, 000 at BanColombia. At most Carulla and Olympica Supermarkets there is a Serviblanca (780, 000) ATM. 5 Currency exchange places in Laguito, they run 20-50, 000 per $1000 lower than in the old city.

[QUOTE=LocoGringo;1281885]The new one at the La Dolce / Casino (outside3) is servibanco, you can get up to 780, 000 but with an extra 5500 charge. Just out of Laguito you get up to 720, 000 at Davienda. 400, 000 at BanColombia. At most Carulla and Olympica Supermarkets there is a Serviblanca (780, 000) ATM. 5 Currency exchange places in Laguito, they run 20-50, 000 per $1000 lower than in the old city.[/QUOTE]Thanks, much appreciated!

Not to lengthen this discussion but there is one thing to consider:

Once the girl made a ruckus, there was no way the agent (s) could pay her. No agent can actively engage in "sex tourism" (actually no American can under Bush administration regulations that I think are still in effect) , so once she got loud and management came, etc, the men would have lost their jobs FOR SURE by paying. Most likely, he, and / or they, just played dumb claiming there was no offer for pay for play. It could have worked. But paying her in front of others or when others would have known she was paid for sex would have had only one result. The guy (s) would have known that by playing dumb and hoping to ride it out at least there was a chance at surviving.

I just say this because people keep saying "just pay the girl" but we do not know exactly when outsiders got involved. But we know outsiders were involved making it impossible for the man / men to pay her at some point.

Their cardinal sin was telling people they were SS. In the military it is called compromising yourself. They were compromised the moment people knew who they were.

SS

Is no such law for sex tourism, Bill Clinton made one for 18 year old age requirement, the Bush administration enforced a type of crackdown on pedephiles but sex tourism is not illegal for US residents.

[QUOTE=Sunset Strip; 1282134]Not to lengthen this discussion but there is one thing to consider:

Once the girl made a ruckus, there was no way the agent (s) could pay her. No agent can actively engage in "sex tourism"[/QUOTE]But how do you know about this rule? Do you have a copy of the Secret Service employee handbook or do you know someone in the Secret Service?

What the officers did here was not sex tourism in the sense of going to a specific destination for the primary purpose of sex. The problem was that they was on a work assignment and that, presumably, the hotel room was being paid for by the US government on a US government credit card and that they were supposed to conduct themselves in a way that would reflect creditably on their employer. Presumably the US government has not authorized the use of the room for paid sexual entertainment.

Anyway, I imagine that everyone at the top level in the US govt. Is having a good laugh about this, while pretending to be outraged. What could Obama really say?"Hey it was just a few guys letting off steam out of working hours. I know them, they are good guys. Let it be."

No, I don't think so. Probably when he heard about this he said:"Those stupid, idiotic, f*ing assholes. Fire the c***s before someone says they were scoping out the talent for me."

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1282239]Is no such law for sex tourism, Bill Clinton made one for 18 year old age requirement, the Bush administration enforced a type of crackdown on pedephiles but sex tourism is not illegal for US residents.[/QUOTE]If there was a law against it then it would seem to reason that it would be illegal to be a patron at the legal sex farms in Nevada.

I am busy partying in the Caribbean.

Anyway, as I told Jackson, the system would not let me make a correction to my last post for some reason. The edit button was there but it would not work.

I could have re-posted but was tired of typing on the IPHONE. The small buttons, which caused me to send before clarifying a point, tire me out.

Since then I have had little interest in this thread, as most of it is about the ex-prostitute anyway, and had forgotten about the post.

Verify with Jackson that I attempted to edit post but was denied.

Have fun guys LOL!

Sex tourism is alive in well, but it seems NOBODY is engaging in it, anymore in Cartagena!

SS

This is a very long thread and I haven't read every post, so I don't know if this has been said: President Obama should give Dania the prostitute a medal. She uncovered what was a very weak side of the S. S. I truly believe that this was not an isolated case, rather a habit for some agents. If a terrorist group had known how easy it was to get the agents drunk out of their minds while on a mission, and then infiltrate their rooms, they could have raised havoc by having a spy pose as a prostitute, and go from there. Well not any more, there are new rules in place and there is awareness of this issue, so it will not happen in the future. Dania has saved the president's ass! Or at least avoided an even more embarrassing incident of terrorist infiltrating the S. S.

[QUOTE=El Exigente;1283898]This is a very long thread and I haven't read every post, so I don't know if this has been said: President Obama should give Dania the prostitute a medal. She uncovered what was a very weak side of the S. S. I truly believe that this was not an isolated case, rather a habit for some agents. If a terrorist group had known how easy it was to get the agents drunk out of their minds while on a mission, and then infiltrate their rooms, they could have raised havoc by having a spy pose as a prostitute, and go from there. Well not any more, there are new rules in place and there is awareness of this issue, so it will not happen in the future. Dania has saved the president's ass! Or at least avoided an even more embarrassing incident of terrorist infiltrating the S. S.[/QUOTE]I think you have totally missed the boat. It was an advance team. Nobody was going to infiltrate anything.

In general, for protective visits, teams of Secret Service personnel travel in advance and conduct site surveys, which assess needs for manpower, equipment, hospitals and evacuation routes for emergencies. Fire, rescue and other public service personnel in the community are alerted.

Before a protectee arrives at any site, a lead advance agent coordinates all law enforcement representatives participating in the visit. Intelligence information is discussed and emergency options are outlined. Prior to the arrival of the protectee, checkpoints are established and access to the secured area is limited.

[url]http://www.secretservice.gov/protection_works.shtml[/url]

Went for 8 days stayed 18, do yourself a favor stay at martins aparment, he is a awsome guy, very very helpful about anything you need over their, plus now a friend of mine! Girls are easy pickins anywhere from 50us to 100us, lvd girls no prob 80us most of the time when I was their last week about 50-70 girls in clubs maybe 20-30 guys < so its a buyers market < loved Cartagena will be back soon, hillbilly map was very useful also, thanks.

Bad enough residents are pissed after a porn video at Bocagrange Paintball by Bang Bros in December, now the DEA got busted with putas in a Cartagena apartment and the government is investigating that now.

Since we are still on this topic here is my two pesos.

[quote]WASHINGTON — Several small groups of Secret Service employees separately visited clubs, bars and brothels in Colombia prior to a visit by President Barack Obama last month and engaged in reckless,"morally repugnant" behavior, Sen. Susan Collins says.[/quote](note it is a woman speaking.)

[quote]Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman, the committee's chairman, said,"I want to hear what the Secret Service is doing to encourage people to report egregious behavior when they see it.[/quote](This fuck should go away)

[quote]Prostitution is legal in Colombia, but Sullivan quickly issued new guidelines that made it clear that agents on assignment overseas are subject to USA laws.[/quote](US Laws? It is legal in Nevada also.)

[quote]This week the Drug Enforcement Administration said the Justice Department's Office of the Inspector General was investigating possible misconduct by two or more agents in Colombia. Collins revealed that the case involved at least two DEA employees who entertained female masseuses in the Cartagena apartment of one of the DEA agents.[/quote](Lets just cut all govenment employes dicks off, that should solve this terrible problem. Better yet let the president stay in the USA where he belongs.)

[url]http://news.yahoo.com/senator-prostitution-scandal-wider-believed-070724527.html[/url]

Soooo. Now Sen. Collins has "broad brushed" mongers as "morally repugnant" and "isn't that special" and might give anyone out there who identifies with these Secret Service agents the "warm fuzzies"! LOL!

It also, IMO, didn't help matters that the supervisor of said "monger agents" was a woman. Go figure!

Hello every one, be glad to show you around Cartagena, the local spots, beaches, and the nightlife. You can contact me using the forums private messaging system. Its been pretty warm in Cartagena recently, lots of women in the beach, local and from other parts of colombia, because of school vacations.

[QUOTE=Nicolas11;1286211]Hello every one, be glad to show you around Cartagena, the local spots, beaches, and the nightlife. You can contact me using the forums private messaging system. Its been pretty warm in Cartagena recently, lots of women in the beach, local and from other parts of colombia, because of school vacations.[/QUOTE]What kind of services do you offer? At what prices?

[QUOTE=MrCampo;1286650]What kind of services do you offer? At what prices?[/QUOTE]I don't provide any specific service, just helping youguys out to know more about the city, because I live here, and know one or two things more than the average tourist.

Regards

I was just wondering does anyone know or heard of hiv cases on any of these girls? Specially the streetwalkers in laguito, as they have no sanitary control. Whatsoever.

I was just wondering does anyone know or heard of hiv cases on any of these girls? Specially the streetwalkers in laguito, as they have no sanitary control. Whatsoever. Have there been any cases of guys getting infected?

[QUOTE=Nicolas11;1287700]I was just wondering does anyone know or heard of hiv cases on any of these girls? Specially the streetwalkers in laguito, as they have no sanitary control. Whatsoever. Have there been any cases of guys getting infected?[/QUOTE]You claim to actually LIVE IN CTG but then again you ask these kinds of questions? Whats to prevent you paying a visit to the local clinic and asking a nurse these kinds of questions. There's no better reliable information than being "boots on the ground" actually being there direct from the horses mouth (nurses) and not some random figure you might get off the net.

[QUOTE=Nicolas11; 1286911]I don't provide any specific service, just helping youguys out to know more about the city, because I live here, and know one or two things more than the average tourist.

Regards[/QUOTE]Hi Nicolas,

Planning to come to Cartegena for 4 days, Thursday to Monday. Can speak a little Spanish.

Can you please suggest:

1. Area or areas / places to find girls (pro) easily, during day time.

2. Girl friendly, less expensive (Budget / moderate. 0-2 star) hotels not too far from the beach, if possible.

Thank you

You can easily find girls around the beach after 12 noon, do yourself a favor and rent a condo, don't stay in a hotel, this is not like Sosua in DR. You can easily rent a nice one bedroom condo for 75. Or less per night.

[QUOTE=Roger; 1287854]Hi Nicolas,

Planning to come to Cartegena for 4 days, Thursday to Monday. Can speak a little Spanish.

Can you please suggest:

1. Area or areas / places to find girls (pro) easily, during day time.

2. Girl friendly, less expensive (Budget / moderate. 0-2 star) hotels not too far from the beach, if possible.

Thank you[/QUOTE]

This question is totally rediculous.

[QUOTE=Nicolas11;1287700]I was just wondering does anyone know or heard of hiv cases on any of these girls? Specially the streetwalkers in laguito, as they have no sanitary control. Whatsoever. Have there been any cases of guys getting infected?[/QUOTE]

There is a slew of budget Hotels near the Smaller Olympica look at the map under Budget Hotels, I wouldn't even bother with reservations if that is what you want for 40 a night range. As Youcan said beach girls, don't pay more than 100k pesos offer about 80k relize alot of LDV and Isis girls moonlight here by day for half price, sit in your cabana like you would hunt, just watch what is coming by and assume they are all working girls in Playa Hollywood. Read the fricking map it is in order of importance from top down.

If you can swing 60 or more per night try Juan Ventura for an apartment. [url]http://www.venpro.net/fotosapartamentos/english.htm[/url]

[url]http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?vps=3&jsv=329b&hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=202115846141467908565.0004a0706d2b411420a83[/url]

[I love that map!

QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1288057]There is a slew of budget Hotels near the Smaller Olympica look at the map under Budget Hotels, I wouldn't even bother with reservations if that is what you want for 40 a night range. As Youcan said beach girls, don't pay more than 100k pesos offer about 80k relize alot of LDV and Isis girls moonlight here by day for half price, sit in your cabana like you would hunt, just watch what is coming by and assume they are all working girls in Playa Hollywood. Read the fricking map it is in order of importance from top down.

If you can swing 60 or more per night try Juan Ventura for an apartment.

[url]http://www.venpro.net/fotosapartamentos/english.htm[/url]

[url]http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?vps=3&jsv=329b&hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=202115846141467908565.0004a0706d2b411420a83[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1288057]There is a slew of budget Hotels near the Smaller Olympica look at the map under Budget Hotels, I wouldn't even bother with reservations if that is what you want for 40 a night range. As Youcan said beach girls, don't pay more than 100k pesos offer about 80k relize alot of LDV and Isis girls moonlight here by day for half price, sit in your cabana like you would hunt, just watch what is coming by and assume they are all working girls in Playa Hollywood. Read the fricking map it is in order of importance from top down.

If you can swing 60 or more per night try Juan Ventura for an apartment.

[url]http://www.venpro.net/fotosapartamentos/english.htm[/url]

[url]http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?vps=3&jsv=329b&hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=202115846141467908565.0004a0706d2b411420a83[/url][/QUOTE]Thank you very much! Both the information and the map are excellent. I will try to stay in an apartment.

Spent a week in CTG back in May. Thought I'd post some info that will pretty much just confirm the status quo. Was slow (typical for May) , which was okay for me, but I did run into a couple of guys who wished that there were more people, choices, etc. I stopped in LDV once on a weekday around 1:30 or 2:00 a. M. Maybe 20-25 chicas and 5-10 hombres. Plenty of doable chicas, and plenty looking a little anxious for a customer. Met a chica from Cali as she and her friend were about to leave for Electra. Caught up with them at Electra; shared a pizza and some dancing, etc. Electra was slow as well. 10-15 chicas from LDV and 10-15 chicas from other places or had already left LDV before I got there and I just didn't recognize them. Mixture of chicas I've seen in the past year (saw some faces I recognized, but now with bigger boobs, LOL) and chicas who have arrived town in the past several months. Pricing, same as it's been for the past 4 years or so, which can vary based on the chica, the hombre, that evenings supply vs demand, s / t, TLN, etc, etc.

Playa Hollywood was slow as well. Spent 3 afternoons there just relaxing, drinking some brews, etc. Really wasn't that many locals or tourists or working girls at the beach during the week I was there. Tony and Jaison eager to call chicas to the beach for one to check out, but with it so slow the girls just weren't coming to mingle about without knowing there were mongers there ready and willing. In that scenario, someone will most likely ask for taxi fare as well, which at 5 to 6 mil isn't such a big deal, but can add up for those on a strict budget. One fellow gringo wanted to sample something other than the street urchins he'd had all week, so I did have Jaison call in something different for him that he was extremely happy to meet, LOL. He said he gave her 120 mil (yes, Jaison did get a 20 mil cut from the girl and I gifted the 6 mil taxi fare for the chica when I paid my tab 'cause I didn't want to hear about it from some gringo thinking he was being worked over, LOL). Do guys get chicas for less on the beach? Yes. Do guys pay more for chicas on the beach? Yes. For as slow as it was and for the quality of the particular chica, the monger was quite happy. Plus, all he had to do was sit there sipping his beer while delivery service was brought to him. Worth an extra 20 mil for the tout and the 6 mil that I gifted for the taxi? In my book, yes, but I realize that others will disagree.

Tony was on decent behavior. He didn't show up at my building. He didn't blow-up my cell. He did ask for a beer or two, and on the day I was drinking I did buy a couple. On the day I was drinking water, I just told him not today and he left well enough alone. The other day I was there I arrived late in the afternoon and Tony was already gone (was my first day at the beach). That was a peaceful, massage, manicure and pedicure day, LOL.

I did not go to the beach on Sat. Or Sun, so my "slow" comment was from my during the week visits. As those who frequent CTG know, there are more people, be it tourists, locals, chicas to be had, etc, on Sat and Sun. Sunday in particular can often be a pleasant surprise when you pull a chica from what you first thought was an untouchable scenario of her being there with friends and family. We have to keep in mind that often Monday (seems like every other one) is a holiday, making Sunday an opportune time for a "party" for the locals.

For those thinking about heading down soon, there will be more chicas and more people in general in CTG after this week. Vacation holiday begins after this week, so expect things to pick-up for the next 6 weeks as usual during the school / university break. Much better time coming up over the next 6 weeks for beach scouting compared to the last 6 weeks.

To update a little on Mirador del Laguito building, I have heard from a couple of others that the situation is better because the scowling administradora, who made things difficult, is now gone. My information is 2nd hand. Neither guy I spoke to attempted to bring back multiple chicas at once, so I can't speak as to any other particulars. Probably best if someone else could chime-in with a firsthand account from staying there during the past few months.

Also, does anyone have any feedback or reports on the fairly new Posiedon building? I believe that Juan now has one apartment there in his rental pool, so it would be helpful if someone could share their experience. With the problems some of the other buildings have had when they were new, I'm personally leery of staying there until hearing back from actual firsthand accounts. Anybody have anything to report on this building before one of us is the guinea pig for the team?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;1228771]To update the above information, same guy who had to sign a "no prostitute" policy statement upon checking-in at the Mirador back in October was not required to do so today. Too early in trip to get any additional feedback as he hasn't brought back a working girl and has wife'd-up with one non-pro for the Christmas week.[/QUOTE]

Mirador El Laguito has no problems. Back to being friendly as before.

In what part of town? Maybe we could meet up sometime in the Laguito.

[QUOTE=Nicolas11; 1286911]I don't provide any specific service, just helping youguys out to know more about the city, because I live here, and know one or two things more than the average tourist.

Regards[/QUOTE]

Was at LDV last night. Hotter chicks started coming in around 12am. Picked two and everyone agreed to 150k for short time at my condo. Think their names were Grace and Sarah. In the club, they were really nice and flirty, but once we left, they were all business. Jumped in the cab and they wanted to go to a hotel instead and said we'll do short time for 100k instead and you pay for hotel. Got in the room and they demanded 150k instead. Wasn't really about the money, but the dishonesty that turned us off. Decided to leave without doing anything. Went back to LDV and picked up some hotter ones. 200k for short time.

Anyone have any news or updates about pricing at Pleyclub? Haven't been yet. Do you know what the bar fine is and how much a girl typically charges? Thanks fellow mongers!

For me it will cost much more to visit Cartagina than other cites in Columbia. Is it worth it?

[QUOTE=Hotrod10;1297806]For me it will cost much more to visit Cartagina than other cites in Columbia. Is it worth it?[/QUOTE]If you are watching your spend, I would not visit Cartagena. It is by far the most expensive destination in Colombia and it seems like those who do not like it are primarily complaining about the cost.

Visited electra last night.

Arrived at around 4:30 am place was full of people, more men than ladies.

Quality of girls was not as high as in some previous visit. Still there were some nice ones.

Ended meeting a pretty paisa, brunette, around 5'6 or so, nice legs and nice medium size fake boobs.

After some negotiations agreed on 160 k.

Then we went to my place, she was a bit cold at the beginning but warmed as the sex went on.

Her ass and legs were great, so I enjoyed the experience although I have had better.

Seems that with the "high " tourist season there a lot of men around and also many new girls.

Will keep reporting.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Bolman; 1299401]Visited electra last night.

Arrived at around 4:30 am place was full of people, more men than ladies.

Quality of girls was not as high as in some previous visit. Still there were some nice ones.

Ended meeting a pretty paisa, brunette, around 5'6 or so, nice legs and nice medium size fake boobs.

After some negotiations agreed on 160 k.

Then we went to my place, she was a bit cold at the beginning but warmed as the sex went on.

Her ass and legs were great, so I enjoyed the experience although I have had better.

Seems that with the "high " tourist season there a lot of men around and also many new girls.

Will keep reporting.

Cheers[/QUOTE]It is also vacation, in Colombia. Some of the less hardened pros choose to spend it with boyfriends and family. 160k is a good price in Ctg, good for you! How long?

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1299408]It is also vacation, in Colombia. Some of the less hardened pros choose to spend it with boyfriends and family. 160k is a good price in Ctg, good for you! How long?[/QUOTE]Hi Miami,

Yeah lots of foreign and Colombian tourists in the area.

It was a short time sesion around 1, 5 hr. I was also tired so it was good timing for me.

Greetings

[QUOTE=Nicolas11; 1286911]I don't provide any specific service, just helping youguys out to know more about the city, because I live here, and know one or two things more than the average tourist.

Regards[/QUOTE]Just a note that Nicholas11 is a good guy. I met him the last time. He is not selling anything or looking for a buck, although I gave him a few pesos to fill the gas tank of his car (the distance between venues is pretty far). He lives locally, works doing translations and other things. If you reach out to him and he wants to hang out, he knows his way around and can be a good friend to have in the city.

Xkbxkb1

There are so many beauties in CTG. Is there such a thing as a swingers club or anything like a German FKK club?

Low-cost American airline JetBlue will offer three weekly non-stop flights from New York to Cartagena starting November 2012.

"Cartagena is finally within reach. At the convenient prices we offer, it's a bargain to go visit 'La Heroica, ' one of the most coveted destinations on the Colombian Caribbean Coast," said John Checketts, director of route planning for JetBlue Airways.

JetBlue is currently offering a special $149 one way ticket to promote the new route, beginning November 2, 2012.

The flights will leave Tuesdays, Fridays and Sundays from New York at 8:25AM and from Cartagena at 2:05AM.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1305102]Low-cost American airline JetBlue will offer three weekly non-stop flights from New York to Cartagena starting November 2012.

"Cartagena is finally within reach. At the convenient prices we offer, it's a bargain to go visit 'La Heroica, ' one of the most coveted destinations on the Colombian Caribbean Coast," said John Checketts, director of route planning for JetBlue Airways.

JetBlue is currently offering a special $149 one way ticket to promote the new route, beginning November 2, 2012.

The flights will leave Tuesdays, Fridays and Sundays from New York at 8:25AM and from Cartagena at 2:05AM.[/QUOTE]Too funny! I just bought my booked my flight back this morning. Nevertheless, I am happy to hear the good news. There are no direct flights to Cartagena from the NYC metro. JetBlue's direct flight and good pricing, should make this an attractive destination.

Thanks,
Helpmann :)

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1305102]Low-cost American airline JetBlue will offer three weekly non-stop flights from New York to Cartagena starting November 2012.

"Cartagena is finally within reach. At the convenient prices we offer, it's a bargain to go visit 'La Heroica, ' one of the most coveted destinations on the Colombian Caribbean Coast," said John Checketts, director of route planning for JetBlue Airways.

JetBlue is currently offering a special $149 one way ticket to promote the new route, beginning November 2, 2012.

The flights will leave Tuesdays, Fridays and Sundays from New York at 8:25AM and from Cartagena at 2:05AM.[/QUOTE] (in my homer Simpson voice) mmmmmmmmmm. $149

Gents. Visiting Cartagena again in August and enjoy finding P4P during the late afternoon or early evening. Don't do casas or LDV that much anymore and was wondering where some of you experienced pros find your P4P during normal hours.

Lots of little bars and hangouts inside the walled city. Any help would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=Joey Smith; 1307427]Gents. Visiting Cartagena again in August and enjoy finding P4P during the late afternoon or early evening. Don't do casas or LDV that much anymore and was wondering where some of you experienced pros find your P4P during normal hours.

Lots of little bars and hangouts inside the walled city. Any help would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]When I was in CTG last year, I remember that during the day there aren't a lot of pros inside the walled city. Maybe you should try Parque Centenario.

Hello, I need your advice. I've booked a flight to Cartagena that arrive late at night, about midnight. I would know if there is an airport taxi service at that time or if you can suggest me someone who can do it. I'd prefer to avoid unsafe situations.

Thanks,

Mist

[QUOTE=Mistero1;1307761]When I was in CTG last year, I remember that during the day there aren't a lot of pros inside the walled city. Maybe you should try Parque Centenario.[/QUOTE]thanks. Familiar with that area. But still looking for places inside the walled city. Got to be a gem or two there!

[QUOTE=Joey Smith;1308960]thanks. Familiar with that area. But still looking for places inside the walled city. Got to be a gem or two there![/QUOTE]Just go to Hotel Santa Clara and plop down in the square outside the hotel's main entrance. See all those vendedores ostensibly in the cheap souvenir business? Chat them up. It usually only takes a few minutes: "You don't need any souvenirs, amigo? Bueno pues, what is it you do need?"

Whoever you're staying with, be it Juan, Mery or a hotel, can organise this for you. However, I wouldn't bother. You'll pay 2x or 3x the regular fare ($18k COP) and Cartagena taxis are very safe on the whole.

[QUOTE=Mistero1; 1308369]Hello, I need your advice. I've booked a flight to Cartagena that arrive late at night, about midnight. I would know if there is an airport taxi service at that time or if you can suggest me someone who can do it. I'd prefer to avoid unsafe situations.

Thanks,

Mist[/QUOTE]

This trip review is a couple weeks old, I did a visit to Cartagena from June 29th to July 4th. I'm having issues with my digital camera, and will try to post a couple pics once the damn thing cooperates. I got into town early Friday afternoon and checked into Mirador 1402 from Juan, which is the penthouse with a Jacuzzi. For those of you thinking about renting it, note that it does not heat the water but I've figured out a good method to keep the water piping hot, pm me if you are thinking about renting the place out.

Anyways, after getting checked in and loading up at Carullo, I met up with a fellow ISG member at the beach. Overall, the beach talent wasn't great on Friday, and I decided to rest up for Friday night. I headed over to LDV around 11PM and it was fairly slow, so I decided to checkout Fragma. Fragma has a ton of hot girls, but seems to be more of a regular club, I couldn't quite figure out which chicks were prepagos, but still had a fun time at the club. Ended up at Elektra where the talent was pretty good. I was chatting it up with a cutie from Medellin, but we weren't able to agree to the price and I foolishly let her go, my biggest regret of the trip. I ended up taking back a girl from Bogota for TLN for COP 200K, smoked and fucked in the Jacuzzi for a bit before passing out. Overall a decent session with dfk, multiple rounds and a great ass, but all these prepagos seem to have war wounds from popping out kids, this one's tits were a bit stretched and saggy, disappointing.

Saturday I ended up at the beach to relax and didn't see much great talent. I spent my time in Fao's chairs as I find him to be more relaxed and honest than Tony, and I used Jaison when I needed to track down chicks. The weekend was a holiday weekend, but unfortunately it was flooded with families instead of semi-pro putas, even seasoned mongers and Jaison commented that they have never seen this many families. I ended up finding a nice little spinner with some personality through Jaison, and took her back to the apartment for daytime fun. Same story, her tits showed war wounds from pregnancy, but she was a pretty good lay and definitely would have stuck around TLN for a fairly low $$. I gave her an amount I thought was fair after we grabbed a nap and another fuck.

Saturday night I met a negra-version of Nicole Scherzinger at LDV that I had to take back to the apartment. We smoked, fucked and enjoyed some cee before she headed off, probably to catch a late night trick at Elektra. She was a great GFE and we never spoke about the amount, though I took care of her. This was the only girl I met during my trip that didn't show war wounds from a pregnancy.

I stayed in Cartagena Sunday – Wednesday, and would not recommend staying past Sunday. The beginning of the week is EXTREMELY slow, with many of the girls not coming out to on Sunday / Monday / Tuesday. There is very little for me to write about the last few nights, and I thought I would leave you with a few things I learned on my trip:

+ DO NOT plan to have a great selection at LDV / Elektra on Sunday – Tuesday.

+ If you stay in CTG those nights, grab a bunch of numbers earlier so that you have some girls lined up for the slow part of the week.

+ Spend time (and yes, money) feeling out the girls in LDV / Elektra before heading back to the apartment. 2 drinks at the bar is much cheaper than wasting your time with a bad session.

+ Try to find girls without kids, it is amazing how many of these girls have 2 or more kids!

+ Jaison and Fao are a good alternative to Tony on the beach.

+ Overall, the talent level seems down versus last year.

My next trip to CTG will only be for Thursday – Sunday morning, but I think my next visit in Colombia will be to the high end Bogota spots.

a few more items i forgot to mention:

+ don't get to ldv before 11:30, its a complete ghost town with only the ugly girls there hoping to grab someone before the hotties come in.

+ make a selection at elektra before 4ish, unless you don't mind scraping the bottom of the barrel.

+ if the guy at the elektra door is charging you cover, talk to aldo and he'll sort it out. they charge some people cover to keep out the gawkers, and the doorman was only following the managers directions. the manager wasn't too pleased when aldo told him to give me the cover charge back, hah!

[quote=paracite; 1310423]a few more items i forgot to mention:

+ don't get to ldv before 11:30, its a complete ghost town with only the ugly girls there hoping to grab someone before the hotties come in.

+ make a selection at elektra before 4ish, unless you don't mind scraping the bottom of the barrel.

+ if the guy at the elektra door is charging you cover, talk to aldo and he'll sort it out. they charge some people cover to keep out the gawkers, and the doorman was only following the managers directions. the manager wasn't too pleased when aldo told him to give me the cover charge back, hah![/quote]exactly. but electra opens at 3 am. aldo wants patrons to consume. i won't blame him for that. 17k for a heineken isn't cheap after all. cartagena is the most overrated place i have been to.

[QUOTE=Questner;1310772]Exactly. But Electra opens at 3 am. Aldo wants patrons to consume. I won't blame him for that. 17K for a Heineken isn't cheap after all. Cartagena is the most overrated place I have been to.[/QUOTE]Met some of the hottest girls their! If your not on a budget, the most best plase to monger! Hot hot hot! 75$ girls!

[QUOTE=RacShack;1310841]Met some of the hottest girls their! If your not on a budget, the most best plase to monger! Hot hot hot! 75$ girls![/QUOTE]Yes Electra has a great selection, and the girls are hungry at that time of the night. As far as not being on a budget that price for the 8's 9's, and few 10's is very good for a budget monger in CTG.

Thinking about going to Cartagena but I keep hearing its expensive a city. Some my question is what make it an expensive places. Oh yeah quick sidenote my calena would be with me and we would be there a week.

[QUOTE=Ronin1;1310073]Good report and info, thanks.[/QUOTE]Curious. Where are Jason and Faio located. Tired of dealing with this guy Tony!

[QUOTE=Amigox;1311128]Thinking about going to Cartagena but I keep hearing its expensive a city. Some my question is what make it an expensive places. Oh yeah quick sidenote my calena would be with me and we would be there a week.[/QUOTE]Many Colombians go there for a holiday. Also as it is a very safe city. This causes Gringos to go there. Not only Mongers, but tourists who like the history of the city. Also Any beach town is always expensive compared to normal citys. If I were you I would skip CTG, and go to Santa Marta. The ocean is cleaner, and the hotels, and food are less expensive than CTG. Since you already have talent on hand you don't need to hunt in CTG, but if you can slip away there are WG to be had in Santa Marta.

BTW enjoy your girl from Cali. I have found those creatures to be very hot.

[QUOTE=Joey Smith;1311260]Curious. Where are Jason and Faio located. Tired of dealing with this guy Tony![/QUOTE]Right there in Playa Hollywood. Fao will have "FAO" written on the fabric of his carpas. His "office carpa" will be right there within 5-10 meters of Mama Flor's fruit stand. Just deal with him for your carpa, chair, etc.

Jayson is a runner sort in Playa Hollywood. The authorities have been making them wear an official uniform shirt of late (wonder how long that lasts). He will be going back-and-forth between the little alley at the main road (closest to Playa Hollywood) and Playa Hollywood.

Fao understands gringo-butchered Spanish, but does not speak English. Jayson speaks English. When not doing a massage or pedicure / manicure, Emily is pretty much now sitting with Fao or at Mama Flor's.

Tony is typically now down to the right a little from Mama's Flor's fruit stand. He'll be griping and complaining about why you not likey Tony anymore. He's predominantly going through more of the "stick" phase in the 'ole carrot-and-stick game of his hustle life there at Playa Hollywood. After one explains to him why they & other gringos are not using him near as much anymore, he'll grunt that he's been there for 20-something years and that his business will be okay. Remains to be seen if the loss of business and status changes his arithmetic skills and business tactics.

If you want any of their cell numbers, shoot a pm. Don't worry, I won't give you Tony's by mistake, LOL.

[QUOTE=Amigox;1311128]Thinking about going to Cartagena but I keep hearing its expensive a city. Some my question is what make it an expensive places. Oh yeah quick sidenote my calena would be with me and we would be there a week.[/QUOTE]In my "opinion", here are a few reasons off the top my head:

1. What makes it "expensive" by Colombian standards is it is the vacation / tourist destination in the country. It is a place where the Colombianos with discretionary spending money go for domestic vacations, getaways, wedding ceremonies, business group meetings / seminars, government officials / dignitaries, etc. It is also a tourist destination for foreigners, including cruise ships, international business seminars, romantic getaways, government officials / dignitaries, etc. Just like most any city where tourism is the top or one of the top economic drivers, real estate and prices for goods & services will be higher in the tourist zones and for tourist attractions. Tourists and business travelers tend to spend their money more freely. Hey, it's vacation! Goods, attractions, services, accommodations, etc, are priced accordingly in the tourist zones. They are geared toward a more affluent customer than non-tourist zones. Locals involved with and local infrastructure that supports the tourism feed off this economic activity. That tourist money (needs to) touches many hands from the consumer to the producer (and remember all of the officials and infrastructure that must be supported).

2. From a more every day transactional standpoint, there is the Costeno concept of asking price, real price and the art of negotiation / haggling that not all people are accustomed to and / or enjoy. Inflated prices can be paid by visitors / tourists because of their lack of knowledge of the fair market price for an item, their reluctance or unfamiliarity with aggressive negotiating / haggling, or their general attitude of "screw it, I know I'm probably overpaying, but let's have some fun anyway-it's my vacation!" The is no shame in the local culture to excessively inflate or mark-up a price if the buyer (especially tourist) pays it. It is not dishonorable to extract extra or overcharge; actually can be viewed as a good business practice since it may be the difference in the vendor having some meat with the rice tonight, along with some aguillas!

3. Visitors / consumers / tourists can (choose to) make it more expensive by their own choices for convenience, comfort, luxury, expediency, personalization / VIP treatment and uniqueness.

[quote=paracite; 1310423]a few more items i forgot to mention:

+ don't get to ldv before 11:30, its a complete ghost town with only the ugly girls there hoping to grab someone before the hotties come in.

+ make a selection at elektra before 4ish, unless you don't mind scraping the bottom of the barrel.

+ if the guy at the elektra door is charging you cover, talk to aldo and he'll sort it out. they charge some people cover to keep out the gawkers, and the doorman was only following the managers directions. the manager wasn't too pleased when aldo told him to give me the cover charge back, hah![/quote]good info along with your preceding report, paracite. thanks for sharing, as it's always good to read some recent reports. i feel rep001tered brained at the moment, so i'm just going to throw out some random thoughts with no particular rhyme or reason.

here's the thing about times, venues, etc. : different strokes for different folks.

some guys like to get to ldv and / or electra before most anyone else and "scope" the talent as it first shows-up. others say screw that, i'm not showing-up until things are hoppin' and there's a crowd of people. some want to grab a chica early before she's "taken"; others prefer to wait closer to closing time with the idea that prices will drop much like scalped tickets do outside the arena as the event gets started.

probably not unlike most, i can be all over the board depending on my mood, how much sleep or lack of sleep i've had, how much liquor i've consumed, how long since my last nut, etc. that means one night i may want to show up early and then other times show-up right before closing, but generally some where in-between, lol.

the last several times i've been to ldv, i didn't show up until 1:30 or after. i'd only go at 11:30 if i was trying to stay on "wake-up before 9 a. m." schedule the next day, or if i had this crazy idea that i was going to bang one chica, go back for another, and then grab a 3rd at electra. needless to say, i don't come up with crazy ideas all that often these days, lol.

as has been stated before, show-up at electra at 3 and it will be you and the staff there. nada mas. then all of a sudden at 3:30 the crowd starts arriving and continues to do so steadily for the next 45 minutes. the last time i was there i showed-up around 5:15 or so and it was somewhat slim pickins'; only saw 3 or 4 that would make me rise to attention from looks alone. if i had shown-up an hour to an hour and a half earlier like i did several nights before that, then i'm confronted with 15+ that strike my fancy and i have a tougher time deciding, lol.

as to the guy charging at the door. i was there last month and did notice some people who went in before me got charged. i can't say that i've ever noticed that before and i've never been asked for an entrance fee. he did at first seem to give off body language that he was going to hit me up, but then he either recognized me (not because i'm anybody important, but because i've been there more times than i care to say) or my body language / mannerisms gave off the vibe that i'm not paying and he didn't say anything, just held the door open and nodded. not sure, but since i really haven't noticed it happening before, could be more of a recent push to put a little extra in the pocket.

it's similar to when you read some guy saying that there's this policy that a guy has to buy a girl a drink at ldv. huh? no one's ever mentioned that or brought that up when i've been there or to anyone i've talked to there. it wasn't a policy, it was just another one of those times in cartagena where someone saw an opportunity to make a little extra coin or get a drink purchased for them. or maybe there are guys who go and sit there without ordering anything and then they are told that. could be, but i dunno, 'cause i always order something. even if it's only bottled water or a beer. the place serves drinks; that's how they pay the light bill, um i came to their establishment and plopped myself down; i'll have a drink tyvm.

speaking of drinks, i think i'll go make one.

[QUOTE=Joey Smith; 1307427]Gents. Visiting Cartagena again in August and enjoy finding P4P during the late afternoon or early evening. Don't do casas or LDV that much anymore and was wondering where some of you experienced pros find your P4P during normal hours.

Lots of little bars and hangouts inside the walled city. Any help would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]During the day inside the wall? Use your people / social skills, Spanish language ability, chica pick-up ability, gift for gab, good looks, mannerisms, sense of humor, discretion to not make them look / feel like a puta or WG in public, and eye contact.

Otherwise, go to Playa Hollywood and other parts of the beach in the afternoon up 'til 5:30 or so; and / or stroll the sidewalks of Boca Grande and Laguito using observation, eye contact and social skills. Hang out in Laguito and / or Boca Grande; sitting at cafe tables, walking the sidewalks. Observe, observe, make eye contact, smile, speak with eye contact, speak to vendors, speak to the chicas selling phone service and other items, make contacts, etc, etc.

Or, point-and-click or order delivery by giving Jayson a call or visit in Playa Hollywood and tell him you'd like an introduction: be it flacca, morenita, negrita, blanca, calena, paisa. 18-19, natural or enhanced, voluptuous, big tits, inexperienced, experienced, etc, etc. If you don't like the one you are introduced to, don't show interest and then inform Jayson of such and why so that he'll know to keep looking and dialing for you, and on then on to the next one, so on and so forth. He's just "introducing", you determine if you "hit it off" enough to pursue further. Oh yeah, pretty much wasting your time to try to arrange an introduction well in advance. What's well in advance? Uh, the day before, lol.

Bang the girl from the night before who did TLN and is still sleeping in your bed, or call the girl you banged yesterday from the beach who's just here in town for "vacation". Bang the so-so lookin' girl who dials your # from the lobby of your building asking if you want a massage and you have no idea who she is, but somehow she knows you're there and you just happen to be in the mood for a massage and / or horny.

Lastly, dial numbers that you've gathered from prior visits, your favoritas, your amigas, your past novias, the numbers you asked for from scoping out the night time venues / discos earlier in the week or the numbers you can get from other mongers you meet there. Okay, yeah. 1/3 or more will be disconnected, and then another 1/3 or more won't answer or their busy right now, and then what's left may or may not show up when they say they will; but hey, if they are attracted to you, horny or even better have an immediate need that day for some dinero, you're going to get laid.

Thus is daytime action in Cartagena, LOL.

Enjoy your trip!

P.S. Yes, there are makeshift casas out where the "real people" live and there is also whole 'nother world of opportunity and otherwise out there with the "real folk". While I've been out there with the real folk many a time, it's never been alone and it's never been to find action. Just the opposite....I try to stay away from "action" when outside the tourist zones of Cartagena, lol. Great place to meet amigas of amigas, hermanas, primas, tias, classmates & moms though!!!!!!

Re the comments on Elektra charging some customers. They have been doing this for as long as I remember. Everytime I've seen, it's been with 'mainstream' tourists. So my take on it is that it's tax on those that don't play our game.

Re LDV and their drinks policy. I'm with Hilltopper, I'm never even heard of people being forced to buy drinks there. Very strange.

[QUOTE=Artful; 1311673]Re the comments on Elektra charging some customers. They have been doing this for as long as I remember. Everytime I've seen, it's been with 'mainstream' tourists. So my take on it is that it's tax on those that don't play our game.

Re LDV and their drinks policy. I'm with Hilltopper, I'm never even heard of people being forced to buy drinks there. Very strange.[/QUOTE]Apparently, to colombians I look Israeli, which is likely the reason why the door guy was charging me cover to get into Elektra.

I've never encountered an issue with the LDV drinks policy, but then again, I would never think about taking a girl out before I spent a little bit of time talking to her and getting her drunk!

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1288057]There is a slew of budget Hotels near the Smaller Olympica look at the map under Budget Hotels, I wouldn't even bother with reservations if that is what you want for 40 a night range. As Youcan said beach girls, don't pay more than 100k pesos offer about 80k relize alot of LDV and Isis girls moonlight here by day for half price, sit in your cabana like you would hunt, just watch what is coming by and assume they are all working girls in Playa Hollywood. Read the fricking map it is in order of importance from top down.

If you can swing 60 or more per night try Juan Ventura for an apartment.

[url]http://www.venpro.net/fotosapartamentos/english.htm[/url]

[url]http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?vps=3&jsv=329b&hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=202115846141467908565.0004a0706d2b411420a83[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks for very useful info.

[QUOTE=Amigox;1311128]Thinking about going to Cartagena but I keep hearing its expensive a city. Some my question is what make it an expensive places. Oh yeah quick sidenote my calena would be with me and we would be there a week.[/QUOTE]Cartagena is my cheapest destination, I can party like a rockstar for 200 USD a day, airfare is 500 for me more or less. Apartment 60-75 with washer dryer, A / C plenty of towels and Ocean view. 200 a day includes 2 girls and at least a case of beer at 1250 pesos about 75 cents a piece. This being said I had the guy that wrote the book on mongering literally show me how he rolls in Cartagena and the North Coast of the DR. I watched him pick up girls on Playa Hollywood for 50k pesos and I know he has paid as low as 20k pesos for LDV girls although the lowest I have ever been quoted there is 50k pesos outside sitting on a bench.

You will get fucked on prices first by Tony if he middles you and you will pay more than 100k pesos for a stunner at the beach, best to get their number or meet them on the street walking separately from the beach so Tony doesn't shake her down later. It also goes without saying Tony will run the tab up on your beers and umbrella if he gets the chance, I bring my own beer at least a case with ice and a soft cooler and hand them to girls and some to Tony, Jason, Emily, the reason I give a few to Tony is I figure it is about 50 dollars a day cheaper to bring my own and then pay him the regular Colombian rate for the chair and umbrella which is 12k per day tops. Oh he bitches like a mother fucker that is his thing, why do you fuck me, I thought you were my friend, I have 5 kids, I know you are rich, Why you fuck me in the ass, and the list goes on, my response is usually, if you are my friend then thanks for the free chairs and I start walking without paying him, on his kids you should have kept your little pecker in your pants, I know you are rich, no times are tough that is why I haven't seen you in a while, then he responds I know you go other places. Then is other favorite,"I am not stupid" then I say," Your a fucking idiot but your a hell of a scammer!" then he laughs and gives me a fist bop. Then his always," When are you leaving I want my tip " which I always tell him a few days more than I am staying so he doesn't pester me to death.

Keep in mind the whole time at the beach I am gathering numbers for later which goes the same for the LDV and Electra because the day rate is a hell of alot cheaper by day then night.

As far as food goes I have never been much of a foodie, I will eat breakfast at MCDonalds so I can watch the girls walk by on the sidewalk and browse the internet on my Laptop or I will get 4 doghnuts and a coffee for about 2 bucks at the street vendor across the street from the Amirante, or I will eat at Juan Valdez. At night I will eat at Riquisimos, Santo Domingo Plaza or Carbon de Palo. I typically don't eat lunch I spend all day at the beach from noon till dusk.

I walk alomost everywhere except to Centro mostly for the excercise, I hardly ever pull girls from Electra or LDV anymore but I go to get numbers and keep a mental note of their faces so when the walk by my beach chair the next day I will wave them over to chat. Same goes for Isis girls.

I don't burn the midnight oil much like YouCan and the Eduardo mostly cause I am whipped from the beach and Sun all day, but I need to go to bed from the beach and wake up at midnight like alot of guys do.

The map for reference. [url]https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?vps=3&jsv=329b&hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=202115846141467908565.0004a0706d2b411420a83[/url]

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1313901]Cartagena is my cheapest destination, I can party like a rockstar for 200 USD a day. Apartment 60-75 with washer dryer, A / C plenty of towels and Ocean view. 200 a day includes 2 girls and at least a case of beer at 1250 pesos about 75 cents a piece. the day rate is a hell of alot cheaper by day then night. I will eat breakfast at MCDonalds or I will get 4 doghnuts and a coffee for about 2 bucks at the street vendor. I typically don't eat lunch I spend all day at the beach from noon till dusk. I walk alomost everywhere except to Centro mostly for the excercise, I hardly ever pull girls from Electra or LDV anymore[/QUOTE]How to party like a hillbilly.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;1313949]How to party like a hillbilly.[/QUOTE]Thanks, maybe you can give me some tips.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1314055]Thanks, maybe you can give me some tips.[/QUOTE]Great photos!!

Thanks,
Helpmann :)

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1313901]Cartagena is my cheapest destination, I can party like a rockstar for 200 USD a day, airfare is 500 for me more or less. Apartment 60-75 with washer dryer, A / C plenty of towels and Ocean view. 200 a day includes 2 girls and at least a case of beer at 1250 pesos about 75 cents a piece. This being said I had the guy that wrote the book on mongering literally show me how he rolls in Cartagena and the North Coast of the DR. I watched him pick up girls on Playa Hollywood for 50k pesos and I know he has paid as low as 20k pesos for LDV girls although the lowest I have ever been quoted there is 50k pesos outside sitting on a bench.

[url]https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?vps=3&jsv=329b&hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=202115846141467908565.0004a0706d2b411420a83[/url][/QUOTE]Great info. I've only been once and had a blast but that was many years ago. Stayed at the building LocoGringo recommended, thought maybe it was actually his rental. Nice guy. Does he still rent apartments? Do any of the rentals have wifi?

It was after a few trips to MDE and a fellow monger and I made a long weekend trip. It was a blast and I remember it being reasonable. We had a intro from a cab driver in MDE (his cousin) who showed up to greet us at the airport with a friend. Went right to the apartment and into bed.

Tony is a riot. You got to love the way he makes a living. I wonder how much he dabbles in his product? These pics are of a Tony girl. Her name was Tatti. I don't remember what I paid but whatever it was it was a hell of a lot cheaper and definitely better than anything that you can get in the USA at the time when prices were pretty much a firm $300. She hung out all day and did as many pops as I was capable of. I have a thing for spinners and as you can see by my hand her ass quotient she definitely was a spinner. Great time and real GFE.

Simon says: I need a mongering vacation soon.

Although there are those that would say I am on a mongering vacation at home.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1314055]Thanks, maybe you can give me some tips.[/QUOTE]Nice photos! Cartagena is great place, the beach is not the best in the world though, a bit dirty and grey, but what the hell when you have girls like this!

Have to get back there soonest possible. Here are 2 nice asses from July 2012. Sorry about the quality, I had to crop the photos from originals because of the file size allowed here.

Cheers,

Kep

[QUOTE=SimonHeSays;1314068]Great info. I've only been once and had a blast but that was many years ago. Stayed at the building LocoGringo recommended, thought maybe it was actually his rental. Nice guy. Does he still rent apartments? Do any of the rentals have wifi?[/QUOTE]Depends which Locogringo your talking about. I know them both, Locogringo Apartment rental is Martin and he rides motorcycles and I think he is now renting them in Cartagena and that would be a blast.

ISG Locogringo is someone else and he rides Paisas and Calenas.

Now that the dust has cleared, is it still business as usual or have things changed in any way?

The first foursome I had in my life, tres chicas from LDV, July 2010. 3 pairs of silicon breasts, LOL.

Pity that I could not get their faces in the picture, they were nice too!

The girls did not allow to take face pics. I respect that.

Cheers,

Kep

[QUOTE=Keppana; 1314112]The first foursome I had in my life, tres chicas from LDV, July 2010. 3 pairs of silicon breasts, LOL.

Pity that I could not get their faces in the picture, they were nice too!

The girls did not allow to take face pics. I respect that.

Cheers,

Kep[/QUOTE]God Damn! Nice pics you guys and belated nice pics to the Reef.

PS Keppana you would put a damper on the Hillbilly budget with them 2 on the right. LOL

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1314118]God Damn! Nice pics you guys and belated nice pics to the Reef.

PS Keppana you would put a damper on the Hillbilly budget with them 2 on the right. LOL[/QUOTE]Wonderful collection, thanks for sharing bro! I would love to sample that little "mona" (blonde) in the black bikini! That other one in the pink looks completlely beach or piscina paisa right down to the head scarf!

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1314055]Thanks, maybe you can give me some tips.[/QUOTE]Great pics Hillbilly,

The girl in the second picture looks great!

I will see if I can find here around in Cartagena eheh.

Thanks again for sharing.

Greetings

[QUOTE=Bolman; 1314238]Great pics Hillbilly,

The girl in the second picture looks great!

I will see if I can find here around in Cartagena eheh.

Thanks again for sharing.

Greetings[/QUOTE]These are from Sept of 2011 trip I think.

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Simon,

That girl has exactly the type of body I love. Whether she's 5'-10", long and lean or a 4'-11" spinner it doesn't matter to me. Nice way to spend the day.

Reef.

[QUOTE=SimonHeSays; 1314068]Great info. I've only been once and had a blast but that was many years ago. Stayed at the building LocoGringo recommended, thought maybe it was actually his rental. Nice guy. Does he still rent apartments? Do any of the rentals have wifi?

It was after a few trips to MDE and a fellow monger and I made a long weekend trip. It was a blast and I remember it being reasonable. We had a intro from a cab driver in MDE (his cousin) who showed up to greet us at the airport with a friend. Went right to the apartment and into bed.

Tony is a riot. You got to love the way he makes a living. I wonder how much he dabbles in his product? These pics are of a Tony girl. Her name was Tatti. I don't remember what I paid but whatever it was it was a hell of a lot cheaper and definitely better than anything that you can get in the USA at the time when prices were pretty much a firm $300. She hung out all day and did as many pops as I was capable of. I have a thing for spinners and as you can see by my hand her ass quotient she definitely was a spinner. Great time and real GFE.

Simon says: I need a mongering vacation soon.

Although there are those that would say I am on a mongering vacation at home.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1314055]Thanks, maybe you can give me some tips.[/QUOTE]On how to party like a hillbilly you got it covered. You know how big this town is when you see girls that you've done and apartments that you've stayed in other guys pictures.

[QUOTE=Reefski; 1314253]BTW, good subtle reply to Golfintroll. He might be a bigger antagonist jerk than me. Jajajaja.

Reef.[/QUOTE]I already had one flame war going on in the Sosua thread I couldn't open another, I just got off a infraction from December. LOL.

Dec2011 pics

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1314245]These are from Sept of 2011 trip I think.[/QUOTE]Damn picture 3 is my perfect cup of tea chica! Nice long legs and the easy access skirt! I would lick those legs like a chupachups bombon! Jejejejeje

Thanks for sharing my friend. I love the "Colombianas". Wish I was back in Medellin!

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1314257]Dec2011 pics[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing the fotos Hillbilly.

The smile of girl 2 in this set of fotos melts me. :)

Does anybody know which of Juan's apartments allow more than 1 girl per guest? I was staying at the Mirador and they made a stinker about letting my chica's friends come up to party.

A couple pics from previous visits to CTG, unfortunately the camera won't let me get the newer pics from this past trip. These girls definitely weren't showing battle wounds from pregnancies. The morena is from Barranquilla, acts like a shark but was actually a sweetheart after breaking through her shell. I forget where the rubia is from.

Both had great bodies.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1314055]Thanks, maybe you can give me some tips.[/QUOTE]Pic5, Number 9 of 10 from the first group you posted on 8/11, I know her well, T (those tats are quite unique) , as well as her roommate C. Thanks for reminding of some very sweet memories, hillbilly. I hope they're doing well.

CPR2011, tried to send some additional information, but says your messaging feature is turned off.

Would appreciate any recommendations on what hotel to stay at that has beach access and is walking distance to bars and restaurants. Or is it better to stay downtown and taxi to the beach everyday. It sound like there are women available no matter what part of town you are in.

Thanks for the help.

[QUOTE=WantSomeFun; 1322239]Would appreciate any recommendations on what hotel to stay at that has beach access and is walking distance to bars and restaurants. Or is it better to stay downtown and taxi to the beach everyday. It sound like there are women available no matter what part of town you are in.

Thanks for the help.[/QUOTE]Rent an apartment by the beach. Cheaper and bigger than a hotel, they let you bring girls back and it's easy to get into the old part of the city by taxi. Plus the beach areas have nice and reasonably priced places to eat. At night you can hit LDV and just walk with the girl to your pad.

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1314813]Does anybody know which of Juan's apartments allow more than 1 girl per guest? I was staying at the Mirador and they made a stinker about letting my chica's friends come up to party.[/QUOTE]Email Juan, but I don't know if anyone working security is going to let a team of girls strut in. At least break the group up and bring them in a few at a time.

Hey Guys, do any of you know of a good gym / club in CTG? Somewhere that you could buy daily or weekly passes, maybe attatched to a high end hotel. Thanks in advance for your help.

Chris

[QUOTE=Travel Doc10; 1324277]Hey Guys, do any of you know of a good gym / club in CTG? Somewhere that you could buy daily or weekly passes, maybe attatched to a high end hotel. Thanks in advance for your help.

Chris[/QUOTE]Google BodyTech if the link below doesn't post. There used to be one on carrera 4 across from Carulla market but they moved. Looks like ctg has 2 others now. Very nice gyms. Just ask them about a turista package even if it isn't advertised. They'll work with you.

Oh yeah, I heard the Hilton in Laguito will let you pay for the use of their gym too. Probably expensive but adequate.

[url]http://www.bodytech.com.co/[/url]

Hey Guys-

I am new to the forum and to Cartagena. I was wondering if there is any fellow gringos that would be willing to show me the ropes this weekend. I am staying down in Boca Grande across from LDV. I will be in Cartagena for awhile, no exit strategy as of yet.

Thank You

[QUOTE=Wampum; 1324593]Hey Guys-

I am new to the forum and to Cartagena. I was wondering if there is any fellow gringos that would be willing to show me the ropes this weekend. I am staying down in Boca Grande across from LDV. I will be in Cartagena for awhile, no exit strategy as of yet.

Thank You[/QUOTE]If your sating in boca grande your not right across the street from ldv! Stay at martins apt then your RIGHT acorss the streeet, the best apt in Cartagena by far, very very cool person! Martin publishing. Com, only telling you because I'm off to london, paris monaco! I know not the best mongering, but I got to go! LOL good luck! Tell him jerry sent you! Ps I went off of hillbilly map for 18 days and had a blast! (thanks again hillbilly)

Hi,

I'll be in Cartagena from Tuesday 11th Sept and have a few questions.

What are the strip clubs like? Are they full nude? Are the lap dances worthwhile?

Whats best place to pick up regular girls; I speak fluent Spanish.

I want to get some photos to post in the forum; are girls generally willing to be snapped or will they want a lot of money?

I'm looking for a private apartment for $80-$100 per night that is girl friendly and close to the action so any contact details would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Bid

[QUOTE=Mrkuyamandla;1324253]Rent an apartment by the beach. Cheaper and bigger than a hotel, they let you bring girls back and it's easy to get into the old part of the city by taxi. Plus the beach areas have nice and reasonably priced places to eat. At night you can hit LDV and just walk with the girl to your pad.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice. I usually take cash to mexico and use the ATM machine as needed. Any recommendations on taking cash. Don't want to have too much and be walking around and don't know if it's safe leaving it in an apartment or a hotel. Don't know how reliable the ATM machines are in Cartegena.

[quote=wantsomefun;1324981]thanks for the advice. i usually take cash to mexico and use the atm machine as needed. any recommendations on taking cash. don't want to have too much and be walking around and don't know if it's safe leaving it in an apartment or a hotel. don't know how reliable the atm machines are in cartegena.[/quote]atm machines are as save or as unsave in cartagena as in almost every part of the world (the same type of manipulation is used everywhere. keypads that record your entry, manipulated card readers that record your card's data, hidden cameras etc.). the inconvenience is the limit of 400 000 cop (220 usd) per transaction in most machines. i can overcome this because i have accounts that allow 10 free tranrep001ions per year worldwide which allows to get 4 millions cop per account. usually enough cash because wherever i can i pay with credit card. i know that a number of fellows present in the forum do not use atm or credit cards because of the fraud possibilities. it is a personal choice if you use cards or you carry cash. the apartments i rented in laguito / cartagena had a small safe where i usually keep my valuable including the passport.

Davienda gives up to 720, 000 per withdrawal, Servi is 780, 000 but has a 5, 500 fee that is ADDED to amount withdrawn. CitiBank is even more but not sure if the Boca location (Blockbuster) is still open. Contact Juan Ventura for an apartment, most in Laguito are ok for chicas with I'd's. There are many touts for apts, etc, in Cartagena, be careful.

[QUOTE=WantSomeFun;1324981]Thanks for the advice. I usually take cash to mexico and use the ATM machine as needed. Any recommendations on taking cash. Don't want to have too much and be walking around and don't know if it's safe leaving it in an apartment or a hotel. Don't know how reliable the ATM machines are in Cartegena.[/QUOTE]In the future you should invest in a Milockie device and some Pacsafe suitcases and such, by them on Ebay they are cheaper. I have stayed at too many places with down right shitty safes or boxes that were run of the mill Sentury letter boxes that one key fits all and or weren't even bolted down. Also invest in a cable to tie all your stuff together to the bed, it is common sense to have all your shit locked away especially if you do TLN.

Its pretty hot and rain sometimes. Its a quiet month. But still some action outside bocagrande and laguito.

Pleyclub and angeles and some other new clubs outside the tourist district. Anyone need info. Contact me using the private message system.

Regards.

Nicolas11

[QUOTE=Nicolas11; 1325326]Its pretty hot and rain sometimes. Its a quiet month. But still some action outside bocagrande and laguito.

Pleyclub and angeles and some other new clubs outside the tourist district. Anyone need info. Contact me using the private message system.

Regards.

Nicolas11[/QUOTE]Hey Nicolas, can you share the names and location / address of the new clubs you reference here in the thread? I was thinking it would be a good idea for all to know so that WorldTravel could add them to the list he maintains for everyone in the Cartagena List thread.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=WantSomeFun;1324981]Thanks for the advice. I usually take cash to mexico and use the ATM machine as needed. Any recommendations on taking cash. Don't want to have too much and be walking around and don't know if it's safe leaving it in an apartment or a hotel. Don't know how reliable the ATM machines are in Cartegena.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't worry too much. I find the girls to be very innocent and naive there, especially the LVD ones.

I've had success with the ATMs in Cartagena and I don't always have success with ATMs in other parts of the world.

If I have cash, I put it in a suitcase that I lock.

I know a group that had girls staying day in and day out with them and one guy had an ipod turn up missing. They really had their guard down and that wasn't anything that big of a deal anyways. If you are bringing them back for an hour or so, the chances of something bad happening are even less. You walk from LDV to one of the beach apartments and they show their I'd to the main desk who writes their I'd number down. So they tend to behave and are also generally nice and down to earth people. Many of them want to remain friends with you (they give you their real name and # and facebook info)

OK. This is a bit unusual, but where can I find the best restaurants. You know, Zagats style. Ambiance, food, decor, and price. Not just looking for the highest price places, but great food service, etc.

[QUOTE=Xkbxkb1;1326318]OK. This is a bit unusual, but where can I find the best restaurants. You know, Zagats style. Ambiance, food, decor, and price. Not just looking for the highest price places, but great food service, etc.[/QUOTE]I'll toss one out for you, and it applies if you want good beef with ambiance, professional servers and white table cloth: Quebracho in the old city. You can check out more info, including reviews, on Trip Adviser web site.

Hey, awhile back I believe you pm'd me asking for the contact info for LocoGringo to inquire about his apartment. Hillbilly69 was kind enough to pass it on to me to forward to you, but I never heard anything back from you. Did you stay there and if you did, do you have any feedback on the apartment and your experience there?

Hey Crown, if your still around on the 19th I'll hit you up there? In case you don't have enough wiskey to go around, I'll bring some old parr to add to the mix! Let me know where I should look for you, or is it a good idea to look for you with that guy Tony?

[QUOTE=HaleysComet69;1326834]Hey Crown, if your still around on the 19th I'll hit you up there? In case you don't have enough wiskey to go around, I'll bring some old parr to add to the mix! Let me know where I should look for you, or is it a good idea to look for you with that guy Tony?[/QUOTE]Look for him on Tonys beach. He will have a cooler filled with boose, and a lot of locals dipping into it. If you decide to hang with him then bring your A game as he is a non stop party animal. Believe me I speak from experence.

Went barhopping on Wednesday night, hitting 8 to 10 bars, finishing at Elekta, then brought a couple girls back to my apartment, where we partied until 8, when we got a crazy idea to go to Santa Marta! Called Marisol transport and away we went. Finally shut it down about 6 last night, and just arrived moments ago back here in Cartagena. Sent the girls on there way, and now I am heading out the door to Playa Hollywood with my bottle of Crown Royal and a cooler full of beers, to enjoy the company of Emily, Tony, Fao, and several others, which include a couple girls I called from Pleyclub whom I met on Wednesday night, and are on there way in to celebrate the "Dia de Amistad why Amor", which is the holiday here in Colombia. Should be an exciting time as usual, but hopefully not as crazy at Wednesday night was.

I now understand why Cartagena is such a popular place! First night ended up in ISIS with a beautiful Venezuelan. Took the advice from the forum and arranged to meet her next day but on my way out some goon told me I had to pay a $200 bar fine as he knew I had arranged to meet her. I told him to fuck off and that was the end (I hope). Went to the ATM outside LDV and started chatting to some girl sat on the bench outside. We had a few drinks in LDV and then agreed to come back to my place to drink some rum. We get through the door and she leaps on me without any mention of money. I always thought squirting was made up as I have never had a squirter before but wow this girl was amazing. Best thing was she came so easy and was a bit of a screamer which was great for the ego. She wasn't the best looking but so far this girl has been by far the best fuck and cleanest of them all. She goes by the name Esmeradla and I recommend just for the novelty of seeing a girl squirt. Best thing was she never asked for any money but I gave her $100.

Next day checked out Playa Hollywood found a group of girls from some house that isn't on the map. Can't remember what it is called but they said its only $85 a girl. Sat all afternoon with four of them and took a real liking to two who had just arrived from Cali and didn't want to be there. Arranged to take them to playa Blanca the next day and left it at that. When they left Tony brings over very sexy looking mulata who came back with me. She looked so good and I let me take some photos of her which I will post when I get back. Major problem was smelling my fingers after getting my hands down her pants; smelt like a dead cat which put me right off. I just paid her to leave.

Next day I took my own cooler and bottle of rum down too the beach so that Tony didn't have chance to rip me off with the bar tab. This time there where even more girls from this house so I partied with them and some American guys working over here. The girl with the rotten pussy turned up and was latching on to one of the American guys so I felt I had to warn him to change target as he wasn't going to like what he found. Ended up getting a little fucked up on the beach so never made it to playa Blanca but spent the rest of the night with one of the Cali girls. I paid her house fine of $100 and told her she could sleep in my apartment without any obligation. She was just happy to get away from the place and we had a great night and a real girlfriend experience.

Next day the other Cali girl phoned up crying. After her first client she had discovered this was not the life for her. Ended up spending the day with both Cali girls; one wanting to stay and the other wanting to get the next plane back to Cali. Felt really sorry for the one who wants to leave and considering paying her flight back. She is obviously very different from the regular girls here. They are both coming around again tomorrow and hopefully we will finally make it to Playa Blanca.

[QUOTE=Xkbxkb1;1326318]OK. This is a bit unusual, but where can I find the best restaurants. You know, Zagats style. Ambiance, food, decor, and price. Not just looking for the highest price places, but great food service, etc.[/QUOTE]Cartagena has a variety of options, if you would like a nice combination of food, atmosphere and reputation for you and a date to enjoy go with a well known palce like La Vitrola or Club Pesca de Manga. La Vitrola will require reservations for sure unless you get there right when they open for dinner (7?) and really sweet talk the host to seat you early. Pesca is not as crowded but I would actually advise calling well in advance and asking them for a table that hangs out over the water. You will be set back 150, 000-250, 000 COP at either place, depending on how much you like to drink.

[QUOTE=Bid19; 1327124]I now understand why Cartagena is such a popular place! First night ended up in ISIS with a beautiful Venezuelan. Took the advice from the forum and arranged to meet her next day but on my way out some goon told me I had to pay a $200 bar fine as he knew I had arranged to meet her. I told him to fuck off and that was the end (I hope). Went to the ATM outside LDV and started chatting to some girl sat on the bench outside. We had a few drinks in LDV and then agreed to come back to my place to drink some rum. We get through the door and she leaps on me without any mention of money. I always thought squirting was made up as I have never had a squirter before but wow this girl was amazing. Best thing was she came so easy and was a bit of a screamer which was great for the ego. She wasn't the best looking but so far this girl has been by far the best fuck and cleanest of them all. She goes by the name Esmeradla and I recommend just for the novelty of seeing a girl squirt. Best thing was she never asked for any money but I gave her $100.

Next day checked out Playa Hollywood found a group of girls from some house that isn't on the map. Can't remember what it is called but they said its only $85 a girl. Sat all afternoon with four of them and took a real liking to two who had just arrived from Cali and didn't want to be there. Arranged to take them to playa Blanca the next day and left it at that. When they left Tony brings over very sexy looking mulata who came back with me. She looked so good and I let me take some photos of her which I will post when I get back. Major problem was smelling my fingers after getting my hands down her pants; smelt like a dead cat which put me right off. I just paid her to leave.

Next day I took my own cooler and bottle of rum down too the beach so that Tony didn't have chance to rip me off with the bar tab. This time there where even more girls from this house so I partied with them and some American guys working over here. The girl with the rotten pussy turned up and was latching on to one of the American guys so I felt I had to warn him to change target as he wasn't going to like what he found. Ended up getting a little fucked up on the beach so never made it to playa Blanca but spent the rest of the night with one of the Cali girls. I paid her house fine of $100 and told her she could sleep in my apartment without any obligation. She was just happy to get away from the place and we had a great night and a real girlfriend experience.

Next day the other Cali girl phoned up crying. After her first client she had discovered this was not the life for her. Ended up spending the day with both Cali girls; one wanting to stay and the other wanting to get the next plane back to Cali. Felt really sorry for the one who wants to leave and considering paying her flight back. She is obviously very different from the regular girls here. They are both coming around again tomorrow and hopefully we will finally make it to Playa Blanca.[/QUOTE]You seem to be having a great time.

Thanks for the detailed report.

As for the Goon trying to extract $200 from you maybe you were not careful enough in Isis getting her contact info. They look for things like that as the bar fines are a real money maker for the establishment.

Now I see you have a big heart. You have concerns for the plight of some of the Chicas you have met. All well, and good as being a cold person is not a good thing IMHO. Fact is a good heart while mongering can get very expensive.

I hope your trip continues to bring you pleasure, and I look forward to your next report.

Sorry I got my prices mixed up in last report when I said $100 I meant 100 Mil peso. Anyway last night I was in the apartment and got 2 unexpected home deliveries. First was from a girl I apparently met on Tonys beach. She was cute but a lousy lay; straight down to business in and out within 30 minutes. Half an hour later the squirter turned up and we partied like for 5 hours. She loved to model and even let me video her squirting and giving BBBJ. I think this girl has to be a nymphomaniac as I have never seen a girl who comes so easy and who does shit that I've never even seen in movies. As I said before not much to look at but the best fuck ever.

Meeting up with the Cali girls today and trying to get them both on a plane back home. Figured out Colombian girls are like fish. You can go to a restaurant and eat a big tasty one that costs you a fortune but is completely forgotten the next day or you can spend a few hours sitting patiently with your pole in your hand (no pun intended!) and enjoy the thrill of the hunt and eating fresh juicy fish at the end of the day for free.

I was caught off guard with one, then found out there are many more in the Media Luna strip (SWs). The bastard told me after I handed him my money. When I asked for my money back, he would only give me a third of it.

Just be careful!

[QUOTE=Nyajoes; 1329457]I was caught off guard with one, then found out there are many more in the Media Luna strip (SWs). The bastard told me after I handed him my money. When I asked for my money back, he would only give me a third of it.

Just be careful![/QUOTE]You better up you game here son! #1 if you can't distinguish a shemale in Colombia from a regular girl you should should start you mongering skills from scratch, this isn't Thailand where they can be "somewhat" indistinguishable this is Colombia which you can pretty much tell right away, when in doubt walk away, you should have a funny feeling immediately in your gut! And #2 how did he get your money first? When you pay first you put the trick in control, consider yourself very lucky to even get back one peso and finally #3 how did you finally realize you were with a shemale? Did he dangle his cock in your face?

Hola,

Question: I'll be in Cartagena for New Year's Eve, the basic room at the Hilton costs 360 USD in that period. I wouldn't go for a mid-level hotel, but I would choose an apartment if I get better value for money. In Kiev for instance you'd have to be an idiot to book a hotel, when you have luxury apartments in the center (jacuzzi included) at less than USD 100 per night (vs 300 USD for a nice hotel).

Can anyone tell me what the NICE apartments (I mean nicely decorated inside, internet, proper furniture) in the NICE areas cost (I mean either in the very center, or in the nightlife center)? And kindly pass me some links where I can check photos and book.

Thanks in advance

Hey guys, I'm new to the Columbia, section but tons of trips made to the Dominican, Thailand etc. I'm taking a trip to Cartagena, with 3 other people, I was wondering if there are 4 bedroom Apartments, clean, chica friendly, safe. I also want to send a shoutout to my boy Hillbilly69, for suggesting Cartagena, We were headed to Medellin, but thanks to Hillbillys photos, and expertise we now decided on Cartagena. Any and all information ie. Dos and don't, would be much appreciated.

Thank you!

[QUOTE=Stavvrrooss; 1329677]Hola,

Question: I'll be in Cartagena for New Year's Eve, the basic room at the Hilton costs 360 USD in that period. I wouldn't go for a mid-level hotel, but I would choose an apartment if I get better value for money. In Kiev for instance you'd have to be an idiot to book a hotel, when you have luxury apartments in the center (jacuzzi included) at less than USD 100 per night (vs 300 USD for a nice hotel).

Can anyone tell me what the NICE apartments (I mean nicely decorated inside, internet, proper furniture) in the NICE areas cost (I mean either in the very center, or in the nightlife center)? And kindly pass me some links where I can check photos and book.

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]Do a search in Google or Yahoo and type: Cartagena Apartment Rentals and hit enter. There will be many websites with pictures and descriptions. You will be looking to stay in Laquito or Bocagrande.

Stav, Check the Cartagena Hotels and Apartments thread. Not just my post there -- read the thread.

[QUOTE=Otiers;1329790]Do a search in Google or Yahoo and type: Cartagena Apartment Rentals and hit enter. There will be many websites with pictures and descriptions. You will be looking to stay in Laquito or Bocagrande.[/QUOTE]Contact Fabio the wingman, you can find him like that on google, he knows all the women in Cartagena and barranquilla He got us a nice house with a private swimming pool last time.

Hey, pussy chasing fellas like me LOL, has anyone tried it before I need feedback? Any suggestions are appreciated!

Overall not a bad trip, had to move out of the Atlantis Penthouse and into 504 Mirador after first night, I don't recommend the Atlantis apartment I will leave it at that.

Some good stories most I can't share, well ok one story in a nutshell wingman sent 80 bucks to Medellin girl Western Union to meet him in Cartagena, the girl didn't show up he sat in his apartment already have taken his viagra and sporting wood. I damn near died laughing, I can't imagine any girl showing up after only getting 80 dollars, it is a net loss with the 2 taxis food and a one way ticket even taking VivaColombia.

Ok one more story the owner of a penthouse tried getting in a fight with Tony at the beach, too drunk to stand up, fell down several times, Tony had to dress him and carry him back afterward, apparently he left his computer out and one of Tony's girls took his laptop, fucking idiot.

Went to Playa Linda, Playa Blanca more on that later with pics.

September is supposed to be slowest month being rainy and such, rain hung over Centro and the main city most of the time I was there but not at the beach.

The Intercontinental is coming along maybe another year or so.

Tony was his usual self he tried to fill me in on all the bullshit but I already knew.

Overall quality of beach girls I would say was up from December the last I was there.

Hot as hell a few of the days I was there 100 plus heat index easy.

Some beach pics.

Playa Linda, Playa Blanca pics later.

What is the going rate per night for a average 1 bedroom apt in Bocagrande / laguito?

[QUOTE=Tar Heel Bred;1332392]What is the going rate per night for a average 1 bedroom apt in Bocagrande / laguito?[/QUOTE]Hey tar heel bread, you can find 1 bed room condos from 75 dollars to 100 dollars a day, I can refer you to some key people if you like.

Hillbilly, Thanks for the pics. I love the afternoon beach scene, I'll be back down there Nov 21. 26 for my 5th trip.

[QUOTE=CartaAngel;1332679]Hey tar heel bread, you can find 1 bed room condos from 75 dollars to 100 dollars a day, I can refer you to some key people if you like.[/QUOTE]I rented 504 in Mirador from Mery for 60 a night a studio.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1332890]I rented 504 in Mirador from Mery for 60 a night a studio.[/QUOTE]Hey Hillbilly, that is great, thats a bargain, but is el Mirador del laguito as nice as Palmetto, thats where I stayed at last time and my friend there in Cartagena hooked me up with it, Palmetto elyptic right across the street from the beach, I liked it because it was closer to the old town where all the action for guys like me whom like to pick up nice fresh girls (smile) , laguito seems dead on week days, what do you think?

[QUOTE=CartaAngel;1332938]Hey Hillbilly, that is great, thats a bargain, but is el Mirador del laguito as nice as Palmetto, thats where I stayed at last time and my friend there in Cartagena hooked me up with it, Palmetto elyptic right across the street from the beach, I liked it because it was closer to the old town where all the action for guys like me whom like to pick up nice fresh girls (smile) , laguito seems dead on week days, what do you think?[/QUOTE]The New Palmetto is alot nicer than Mirador del Laguito and is close to Isabellas, Jenos Pizza, and Juan Valdez which all 3 were packed with hot chics at dark each night not to mention Plaza Santo Domingo in Centro as well. Do what works for you, I saw a few new street rats in Laguito but during the day was mostly dead there, at night they would hang in front of Torres Del Lago, they seem to hang out at the newly built beach bar by Faos area by day in street clothes. (see below pics from previous post)

I took a boat to Playa Linda a remote beach about 15 minutes West of Laguito, took the boat from near entrance of the Hilton in Laguito.

Boat was 30k pesos per person each way so 60k pesos round trip per person, I used a guy named Edgardo.

Thatched cabanas on the beach are 20k pesos with chairs, a tout middled me for 20k so got lubed on that one after I asked the price 3 times.

Beers were small 1k peso bottled store beer that were 5k pesos each there.

Took a girl with me, still got bored out of my mind and found a pet rock to talk to. LOL.

The water was clear there a big improvement from Playa Hollywood, beach sand was white but small pea sized stones, no chics there but it was during the week.

Nicest 4 beaches in Cartagena area are in order of importance 1) Playa Blanca 2) Playa De Punta de Arena 3) Terra Bomba and 4) Playa Linda.

Boat driver told me lots of chics at Playa de Punta de Arena on weekends, might be worth a look.

More pics from Playa Blanca.

I took a private boat a 24 foot v bottom with a cover and a 40hp motor to Playa Blanca, I used same guy that took me to Playa Linda the day before, Edgardo. I could have took the direct Boat from the Harbor for 50k pesos each but would have to be there by 8 am, boat leaves at 9am. Factoring in taxis 2 people it cost me 140k pesos more a total of 250k pesos to take my own boat there, but I can go and leave when I wanted. I left at 11am returned at 430pm, it took 45 minutes each way.

I was there 3 years ago but my batteries were all dead and only got a few pics from there.

I rented a Jet Ski for 50k pesos for 20 minutes which was pricey compared to Playa Hollywood but was fun.

We ate fish and salad which was 35k pesos per plate.

They rent small cabanas on beach there for 50k pesos per night which is basically a bed with a roof, I guess there is alot of hot chics here on weekend nights.

There was about 2 to 1 girls to guys there with the ugliest being about an 8.

Girl I was with rented a snorkel and mask for 10k pesos for an hour and messed around a small reef just off the beach.

The beach was white fine sand without stones and such, water pretty clear blue, it has a Gilligan's Island feel to the place.

Need help to find girls and English translator from Oct 20 to 26th.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1333205]The New Palmetto is alot nicer than Mirador del Laguito and is close to Isabellas, Jenos Pizza, and Juan Valdez which all 3 were packed with hot chics at dark each night not to mention Plaza Santo Domingo in Centro as well. Do what works for you, I saw a few new street rats in Laguito but during the day was mostly dead there, at night they would hang in front of Torres Del Lago, they seem to hang out at the newly built beach bar by Faos area by day in street clothes. (see below pics from previous post)[/QUOTE]Palmetto sounds and looks great, but would you have a recommendation on how to book for a week, if that is even possible?

Thanks for your great reports and advice by the way. I live in Bangkok and know it pretty well, but Cartagena is a first.

On the coast the should be cities that not are visited to any great extent by foreigners and that are pleasant to spent for some time in.

Anyone has been in such a place and have a recommendation, tips?

[QUOTE=Navab;1336206]Need help to find girls and English translator from Oct 20 to 26th.[/QUOTE]Hey Navab how you doing? I would recommend Fabio, people call him the wingman, he knows his way around and both pros and non-pros his English is fantastic, you can fing him on google, do a search for Fabio the wingman or professional Wingman (And he's not the only one.) For a daily fee he'll accompany / drive you to everything, there you will find his email.

[QUOTE=BlancoVikingo; 1336608]On the coast the should be cities that not are visited to any great extent by foreigners and that are pleasant to spent for some time in.

Anyone has been in such a place and have a recommendation, tips?[/QUOTE]Hey blanco vikingo, I know of 2 places one is puerto Colombia, it is a small but very nice village outside of Barranquilla. Also you can research more about valledupar and cesar departamento, and those places are packed with fresh and unspoiled talent, take a lot of condoms if you ever go LOL.

[QUOTE=Navab;1336206]Need help to find girls and English translator from Oct 20 to 26th.[/QUOTE]Hi Navab in case you have problems finding the wingman and translator the way I suggested, please go to Cartagena lists link, there I posted a link where you can find more info, let me know if it was helpful.

[QUOTE=CartaAngel;1337410]Hey Navab how you doing? I would recommend Fabio, people call him the wingman, he knows his way around and both pros and non-pros his English is fantastic, you can fing him on google, do a search for Fabio the wingman or professional Wingman (And he's not the only one.) For a daily fee he'll accompany / drive you to everything, there you will find his email.[/QUOTE]Could not find Fabio on Google.

Can you massage me please?

[QUOTE=CartaAngel;1337413]Hey blanco vikingo, I know of 2 places one is puerto Colombia, it is a small but very nice village outside of Barranquilla. Also you can research more about valledupar and cesar departamento, and those places are packed with fresh and unspoiled talent, take a lot of condoms if you ever go LOL.[/QUOTE]Valledupar has some stunning girls, last year I hooked up with a girl from Valledupar and is worth. Although they are more looking for a novio but some bs'ing gets you through

[QUOTE=CartaAngel;1332679]Hey tar heel bread, you can find 1 bed room condos from 75 dollars to 100 dollars a day, I can refer you to some key people if you like.[/QUOTE]Hey CartaAngel I'm looking for a place for Newyears in CTG

[QUOTE=Sobaje;1337630]Hey CartaAngel I'm looking for a place for Newyears in CTG[/QUOTE]Hey Sobaje, get with Fabio wingman, I posted a link where you can find his contact info, go to Cartagena lists, Fabio will put you in touch with the right people for apartments, he is my guide there in CTG.

I am going for the first time to Cartagena and staying at Decameron.

Can I bring girls back there?

Or should I rent a cheap place downtown for girls?

[QUOTE=Thirstytravel; 1339540]I am going for the first time to Cartagena and staying at Decameron.

Can I bring girls back there?

Or should I rent a cheap place downtown for girls?[/QUOTE]It depends on whether you're planning to wife up or wh*re around a lot, and what your budget is. The Decameron should allow you to pay a very high joiner fee, for overnight or just for the day. The reason it's high is because it's all inclusive (food, drinks, etc.). I have done this at the Decameron in Panama but not Cartagena. I'm not sure this would work if you're coming back with a woman who looks like a complete **** at 3:00 AM. But it should if reception thinks your date could be a nonpro, which is what you should lead them to believe.

Is there a reason your not just renting a condo for your stay? That way you have a nice full apartment and can bring whoever you want up to your room with no fees or problems.

[QUOTE=Thirstytravel; 1339540]I am going for the first time to Cartagena and staying at Decameron.

Can I bring girls back there?

Or should I rent a cheap place downtown for girls?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Thirstytravel; 1339540]I am going for the first time to Cartagena and staying at Decameron.

Or should I rent a cheap place downtown for girls?[/QUOTE]

Hotel El Pueblito is 5 blocks East on the beach a short time hotel, maybe you can get a day rate there cheap if your laying down the wood several times a day, do your homework and study the map.

[url]https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?vps=3&jsv=329b&hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=202115846141467908565.0004a0706d2b411420a83[/url]

[QUOTE=Thirstytravel; 1339540]I am going for the first time to Cartagena and staying at Decameron.

Can I bring girls back there?

Or should I rent a cheap place downtown for girls?[/QUOTE]The answer to that question is no, they will charge you about a 150 dollars per guest you want to bring up to the room, I did it once and ended up getting hooked up with a small apt in Bocagrande by my guide so I could bring back whoever I wanted to, the location of that hotel is good, you can meet non-pros around there if you like playing Don juan de Marco like me (laughing) , check on Zalmedina bocagrande hotel, they don't give any trouble for extra girls you bring back.

Thanks for the good advices guys.

The reason I was thinking on going to decameron. Is that flights from toronto are very expensive to cartagana, so the all inclusive deal would have been worthed. But I found a flight from buffalo that is pretty good.

So I might do that and get an appartement instead.

Any advice on appartement? Or girl friendly hotel?

[QUOTE=ThirstyTravel;1340624]Any advice on appartement? Or girl friendly hotel?[/QUOTE]Read the Cartagena Hotels and Apartments thread. Rent from Mery Salence or Juan Ventura and tell her / him you want a girl friendly apartment.

Someone told me that Cartagena is pretty happening for New Years. That many girls from Medellin, Cali, Bogota, etc. Come up to the coast to celebrate / party / relax. Is this true?

[QUOTE=Chill Bill;1341351]Someone told me that Cartagena is pretty happening for New Years. That many girls from Medellin, Cali, Bogota, etc. Come up to the coast to celebrate / party / relax. Is this true?[/QUOTE]Pretty much the biggest party of the year is first week of January.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1339629]Hotel El Pueblito is 5 blocks East on the beach a short time hotel, maybe you can get a day rate there cheap if your laying down the wood several times a day, do your homework and study the map.

[url]https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?vps=3&jsv=329b&hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=202115846141467908565.0004a0706d2b411420a83[/url][/QUOTE]I'd recommend looking at a room first here. Maybe it's changed, but I took a chica there for short time maybe 5 years ago, and it's a dump. I can't imagine laying in one of those beds and trying to sleep. But maybe you guys roll that way.

[QUOTE=TheShadow2;1342042]I'd recommend looking at a room first here. Maybe it's changed, but I took a chica there for short time maybe 5 years ago, and it's a dump. I can't imagine laying in one of those beds and trying to sleep. But maybe you guys roll that way.[/QUOTE]Wasn't recommending the place for him to stay, he was staying at the Decameron, but he needed a short time place to bang.

[QUOTE=Chill Bill;1341351]Someone told me that Cartagena is pretty happening for New Years. That many girls from Medellin, Cali, Bogota, etc. Come up to the coast to celebrate / party / relax. Is this true?[/QUOTE]That's pretty much true for every coastal area during the holidays no? Think Jersey Shore, Cape Cod, Ocean City, ect during the summer. I would imagine this to be true but for the most part the girls will be away with their family so they will not be slutting themselves out in front of their Abuelas & Mamas. If they in the club they might be with their cousins and stuff that provides other obstacles. Long weekends and the Finca is family time. Maybe for New Years but from what I have seen in Bogota and Medellin a house party is where you want to be vs a Club. Colombians are cheap and or broke all the time so a cheap house party works best for them.

I've never been to Cartagena but I find the last two weeks of Nov and the fist two of Dec to be the most fun all over Colombia. Girls need that extra holiday money so they go back to work on the streets, clubs, casas, ect. You can see this phenomenon in US strip clubs too or even Parents taking on seasonal help for a few extra bucks during this time. Plus everybody is out and about parting, tons of events going on, it's a great time!

The time after Christmas till about a week after New Years, is dead, everything is closed, girls are firmly gripped by family time, so yeah. Just my two cents; maybe I wan't looking hard enough.

[QUOTE=Slamcity7777; 1342048]. I find the last two weeks of Nov and the fist two of Dec to be the most fun all over Colombia. Girls need that extra holiday money so they go back to work on the streets, clubs, casas, ect. You can see this phenomenon in US strip clubs too or even Parents taking on seasonal help for a few extra bucks during this time. Plus everybody is out and about parting, tons of events going on, it's a great time!

The time after Christmas till about a week after New Years, is dead, everything is closed, girls are firmly gripped by family time, so yeah. Just my two cents; maybe I wan't looking hard enough.[/QUOTE]This has been my experience also.

The end of November up to Christmas is pretty fun, then like you say, it gets pretty dead.

Not quite as bad as holy Thursday and Friday though, but dead.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1342136]This has been my experience also.

The end of November up to Christmas is pretty fun, then like you say, it gets pretty dead.

Not quite as bad as holy Thursday and Friday though, but dead.[/QUOTE]Last dec 4-10th sucked, all the inland floods contributed to the slowness and the Farc attacks on the busses didn't help.

The Music Festival in Cartagena is Jan 5-13th 2013 according to their site.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1342045]Wasn't recommending the place for him to stay, he was staying at the Decameron, but he needed a short time place to bang.[/QUOTE]Got it. Threw me when you said a day rate. Sounds kind of pricey to pay for the decameron and a day rate there, but might be great for him.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1342139]Last dec 4-10th sucked, all the inland floods contributed to the slowness and the Farc attacks on the busses didn't help.

The Music Festival in Cartagena is Jan 5-13th 2013 according to their site.[/QUOTE]I was referring to all over Colombia in general, during that time period, to be fun.

Like you pointed out, I'm sure there will be exceptions in various cities, like with floods, Farc, explosions, etc, etc. That can definitely dampen the festive mood.

If you can get a flight for a good price, just ditch the all inclusive and stop talking about hotels. Cartagena is best to have Apartment. That is my advice to you. Good luck!

[QUOTE=ThirstyTravel; 1340624]Thanks for the good advices guys.

The reason I was thinking on going to decameron. Is that flights from toronto are very expensive to cartagana, so the all inclusive deal would have been worthed. But I found a flight from buffalo that is pretty good.

So I might do that and get an appartement instead.

Any advice on appartement? Or girl friendly hotel?[/QUOTE]

Just spent 4 days in Cartagena arrived on Wednesday and left Sunday morning. The airport was exchanging $1US dollar to 1700COP. Took a taxi to Bocagrande for 5K COP and stayed at the San Martin for 1 night $83 or 150K COP, including a good full breakfast, which was centrally located and a great botique hotel I found to have great reviews on tripadvisor. The exchange house within walking distance of the hotel was giving 1750COP per $1 US dollar.

Three weeks prior I joined LAC (Latin American Cupid) and had a list of 10 contacts but narrowed it down to three, with the first being my plan A. Plan B and C never showed. I was hoping to repeat last years experience, an amazing GFE experience with a non-pro and solid 8. In fact I still kept in touch but decided not to visit her in Barranquilla and instead try a new experience with my plan A who happens to be from Barranquilla too. She showed up and looked amazing a perfect 10. She is 21 years. 5'6" about 110lbs, light skinned with long black hair, thin waist and flat stomache, nice natural chest, great legs and an ass to die for. And super sweet. She reminded me of last year's GFE but better. I don't know what's going on in Barranquilla but they do have the best natural looking and sweetest women I have ever met.

Plan A this visit got dressed so we could go out and have dinner. OMFG, she looked amazing in a skin tight mini dress and heels. Everywhere we went she got the attention from everyone. We had a nice romantic stroll and dinner at Plaza Santa Domingo (?) had a great seafood meal over a bottle of sangria. We talked about everything and anything, all the while thinking at the end of the night I will be in heaven while making love to her. After dinner we walked over to Tu Candelas and spent the rest of the night dancing over a bottle of Medellin Ron Rum and soda. She danced very good to everything and looked so sexy. We hugged a lot, touched each other and kissed LFK. Earlier when she first arrived she had a slight headache so I offered and gave her a nice FBSM non-sexual but I got to caress that lovely body of hers and used all my willpower to resist from coming on to her so quickly knowing that a full night of dinner, drinks, dancing and romance would bring me to her fruition.

We left the club about 3:30am and headed to my wonderful beachfront apartment en Laguito, courtesy of venproreviews, and was ready to make this night ingrained in memory for future playback. We had previously made plans for her to spend the entire time with me and she was looking forward to going sightseeing with me everywhere. She doesn't have kids and her older sister had met and married an american via LAC.

Back to the moment, as she went to the bathroom to change, I got comfortable on the bed and was ready for her. She came out of the bathroom in a pair of tiny short shorts and top. We started to LFK again and hugged. All of a sudden she stopped cold turkey, said it was too soon, that we have a few days to get to know each other more, and said goodnight. WTF! I was in shock. We were both buzzed from the alcohol and for a second I thought I was back in the states on a regular date with an american woman. Then realized not! I attempted to massage her and kiss her then finally reason with her but no go. I couldn't believe that I struck out after our amazing time together. I figured she wanted something serious and was probably influenced by her sister to hold out and win me over for a serious relationship. I wasn't ready to play this game and didn't give her any intention of being ready for something serious, just a good experience if the chemistry was there and friendship.

Well I could not sleep having this perfect 10 laying down inches from me. After talking some more I asked her it was best for her to return to Barranquilla and called Marsol transportation to come pick her up at 6am. She appeared confused and I simply told her I felt the chemistry with her and had a fantastic time but I felt she didn't feel the chemistry with me. I was hoping she would give in and she inferred there would be chemistry within a few more days but I didn't come all the way down here to get teased like this and so I stood my ground and she hers. I gave her the cost of travel to and from which I had agreed to do from the beginning. I also bought her a 5K COP bracelet after dinner as a small romantic gesture. Total cost of our night out and expenses 250K COP. I don't regret our time together or the money I spent, only the misunderstanding. It could have been immature on her part or lack of experience from what she told me about her life. But damn I was so close. Goes to show what worked during one visit is not a guarantee of future visits.

I followed the game plan of Hillbilly69 and spent full days at the beach and low and behold there was plenty of talent. Mostly 6-7's but eventually I found several 8's each day and sessioned with 1 for 100K COP ST a hot blondie from MDE, and another for 50K COP a delicious spinner from BQA.

I hit LDV two nights but the first night I was so exhausted from the beach and a detour session with Sandra from the street, that I never went inside and only talked to a beautiful dark woman from BQA. She was holding out for $300K COP as it was early about 11:30pm. After talking for about 20 min she indicated the session would be TLN. But I was too tired for that and got sleepy and went home alone.

I heard reports that Elektra was closed and there was another club that took its place but I never went to see for myself if this was true. I ran into three americans from Miami who were cool to hang out with during my second visit to LDV. If you guys are on this board send me a pm.

I scored a 9 an amazing spinner from BQA for 150K COP ST and she carried herself well, very polished and sexy and sweet. She turned out to be a little nymphomaniac and was my best session of my trip. It's just too bad I met her on my last night in town.

Taxi back to the airport was 15K COP, and it literally took 90 min to get through the lines. The airport is going through renovations and they didn't have enough people working so early in the morning at the counters, whereas last year it only took 10 min.

My wingman wussed out on me this trip but if your reading this the beach scene was way better than last year! I plan on returning in February and spending time in BQA during the carnival events and meeting my favorite women from Colombia. If anyone wants to hang out and check out the clubs let me know.

Not everyone shares their experience striking out. I for one appreciate these more than the exaggerated tales of conquest. I think you made a good decision sending her packing but it must have been hard booting someone that hot. Sounds like you still had a great time though. Good on ya.

DL, the reports you heard indicating that Electra is closed are true-it is closed. The same crowd is now going to a place just past Universidad de Cartagena in the old city. I can't remember the name of the place.

I'll wager that the hottie from Quilla will be begging you to come back to bang her. She will be sweet as can be and will tantalize you with the thoughts of slammin' that sweet pussy. She'll be yours for the taking, if you want, on your next return visit.

Sounds like you still made out for a great, fun trip!

[QUOTE=Dos Lunas; 1342968]Just spent 4 days in Cartagena arrived on Wednesday and left Sunday morning. The airport was exchanging $1US dollar to 1700COP. Took a taxi to Bocagrande for 5K COP and stayed at the San Martin for 1 night $83 or 150K COP, including a good full breakfast, which was centrally located and a great botique hotel I found to have great reviews on tripadvisor. The exchange house within walking distance of the hotel was giving 1750COP per $1 US dollar.

Three weeks prior I joined LAC (Latin American Cupid) and had a list of 10 contacts but narrowed it down to three, with the first being my plan A. Plan B and C never showed. I was hoping to repeat last years experience, an amazing GFE experience with a non-pro and solid 8. In fact I still kept in touch but decided not to visit her in Barranquilla and instead try a new experience with my plan A who happens to be from Barranquilla too. She showed up and looked amazing a perfect 10. She is 21 years. 5'6" about 110lbs, light skinned with long black hair, thin waist and flat stomache, nice natural chest, great legs and an ass to die for. And super sweet. She reminded me of last year's GFE but better. I don't know what's going on in Barranquilla but they do have the best natural looking and sweetest women I have ever met.

Plan A this visit got dressed so we could go out and have dinner. OMFG, she looked amazing in a skin tight mini dress and heels. Everywhere we went she got the attention from everyone. We had a nice romantic stroll and dinner at Plaza Santa Domingo (?) had a great seafood meal over a bottle of sangria. We talked about everything and anything, all the while thinking at the end of the night I will be in heaven while making love to her. After dinner we walked over to Tu Candelas and spent the rest of the night dancing over a bottle of Medellin Ron Rum and soda. She danced very good to everything and looked so sexy. We hugged a lot, touched each other and kissed LFK. Earlier when she first arrived she had a slight headache so I offered and gave her a nice FBSM non-sexual but I got to caress that lovely body of hers and used all my willpower to resist from coming on to her so quickly knowing that a full night of dinner, drinks, dancing and romance would bring me to her fruition.

We left the club about 3:30am and headed to my wonderful beachfront apartment en Laguito, courtesy of venproreviews, and was ready to make this night ingrained in memory for future playback. We had previously made plans for her to spend the entire time with me and she was looking forward to going sightseeing with me everywhere. She doesn't have kids and her older sister had met and married an american via LAC.

Back to the moment, as she went to the bathroom to change, I got comfortable on the bed and was ready for her. She came out of the bathroom in a pair of tiny short shorts and top. We started to LFK again and hugged. All of a sudden she stopped cold turkey, said it was too soon, that we have a few days to get to know each other more, and said goodnight. WTF! I was in shock. We were both buzzed from the alcohol and for a second I thought I was back in the states on a regular date with an american woman. Then realized not! I attempted to massage her and kiss her then finally reason with her but no go. I couldn't believe that I struck out after our amazing time together. I figured she wanted something serious and was probably influenced by her sister to hold out and win me over for a serious relationship. I wasn't ready to play this game and didn't give her any intention of being ready for something serious, just a good experience if the chemistry was there and friendship.

Well I could not sleep having this perfect 10 laying down inches from me. After talking some more I asked her it was best for her to return to Barranquilla and called Marsol transportation to come pick her up at 6am. She appeared confused and I simply told her I felt the chemistry with her and had a fantastic time but I felt she didn't feel the chemistry with me. I was hoping she would give in and she inferred there would be chemistry within a few more days but I didn't come all the way down here to get teased like this and so I stood my ground and she hers. I gave her the cost of travel to and from which I had agreed to do from the beginning. I also bought her a 5K COP bracelet after dinner as a small romantic gesture. Total cost of our night out and expenses 250K COP. I don't regret our time together or the money I spent, only the misunderstanding. It could have been immature on her part or lack of experience from what she told me about her life. But damn I was so close. Goes to show what worked during one visit is not a guarantee of future visits.

I followed the game plan of Hillbilly69 and spent full days at the beach and low and behold there was plenty of talent. Mostly 6-7's but eventually I found several 8's each day and sessioned with 1 for 100K COP ST a hot blondie from MDE, and another for 50K COP a delicious spinner from BQA.

I hit LDV two nights but the first night I was so exhausted from the beach and a detour session with Sandra from the street, that I never went inside and only talked to a beautiful dark woman from BQA. She was holding out for $300K COP as it was early about 11:30pm. After talking for about 20 min she indicated the session would be TLN. But I was too tired for that and got sleepy and went home alone.

I heard reports that Elektra was closed and there was another club that took its place but I never went to see for myself if this was true. I ran into three americans from Miami who were cool to hang out with during my second visit to LDV. If you guys are on this board send me a pm.

I scored a 9 an amazing spinner from BQA for 150K COP ST and she carried herself well, very polished and sexy and sweet. She turned out to be a little nymphomaniac and was my best session of my trip. It's just too bad I met her on my last night in town.

Taxi back to the airport was 15K COP, and it literally took 90 min to get through the lines. The airport is going through renovations and they didn't have enough people working so early in the morning at the counters, whereas last year it only took 10 min.

My wingman wussed out on me this trip but if your reading this the beach scene was way better than last year! I plan on returning in February and spending time in BQA during the carnival events and meeting my favorite women from Colombia. If anyone wants to hang out and check out the clubs let me know.[/QUOTE]I had a non pro from BAQ a few years ago (almost married her ). I met her on Colombia Cupid. She would not even give me a real kiss till the 3rd date.

I guess with you there for less than a week you must have felt you needed total action. I can understand that. Myself I would have given her another night to come across. I mean a real 10 who was great to be with? Anyway you made your choice, and it seems you had a good time in CTG. Hey thats all anyone can hope for. Thanks for the detailed report.

[QUOTE=Dos Lunas; 1342968]Well I could not sleep having this perfect 10 laying down inches from me. After talking some more I asked her it was best for her to return to Barranquilla and called Marsol transportation to come pick her up at 6am. She appeared confused and I simply told her I felt the chemistry with her and had a fantastic time but I felt she didn't feel the chemistry with me. I was hoping she would give in and she inferred there would be chemistry within a few more days but I didn't come all the way down here to get teased like this and so I stood my ground and she hers. I gave her the cost of travel to and from which I had agreed to do from the beginning. I also bought her a 5K COP bracelet after dinner as a small romantic gesture. Total cost of our night out and expenses 250K COP. I don't regret our time together or the money I spent, only the misunderstanding. It could have been immature on her part or lack of experience from what she told me about her life. But damn I was so close. Goes to show what worked during one visit is not a guarantee of future visits.[/QUOTE]I got blue balls just reading your post hahaha.

My thoughts:

If you were looking and hoping for a sweet, hot, sexy girlfriend; you may have been foolish and lost out.

She just may have devoured you sexually the next day.

A real non pro, educated girl, looking for a mate is not normally going to have sex the first night. She has to show her pride and that she's real.

They normally come around very quickly though, if they dig ya, and take good care of their man.

If you're more on the fun bang and run conquest, you probably did yourself right.

Appears that she was looking for more of a boyfriend and not a f. K buddy.

Could I get her number please, hahaha, just kidding.

Sounds like you had a fun time though, great report, thanks.

[QUOTE=Dos Lunas; 1342968]Just spent 4 days in Cartagena arrived on Wednesday and left Sunday morning. The airport was exchanging $1US dollar to 1700COP. Took a taxi to Bocagrande for 5K COP and stayed at the San Martin for 1 night $83 or 150K COP, including a good full breakfast, which was centrally located and a great botique hotel I found to have great reviews on tripadvisor. The exchange house within walking distance of the hotel was giving 1750COP per $1 US dollar.

Three weeks prior I joined LAC (Latin American Cupid) and had a list of 10 contacts but narrowed it down to three, with the first being my plan A. Plan B and C never showed. I was hoping to repeat last years experience, an amazing GFE experience with a non-pro and solid 8. In fact I still kept in touch but decided not to visit her in Barranquilla and instead try a new experience with my plan A who happens to be from Barranquilla too. She showed up and looked amazing a perfect 10. She is 21 years. 5'6" about 110lbs, light skinned with long black hair, thin waist and flat stomache, nice natural chest, great legs and an ass to die for. And super sweet. She reminded me of last year's GFE but better. I don't know what's going on in Barranquilla but they do have the best natural looking and sweetest women I have ever met.

Plan A this visit got dressed so we could go out and have dinner. OMFG, she looked amazing in a skin tight mini dress and heels. Everywhere we went she got the attention from everyone. We had a nice romantic stroll and dinner at Plaza Santa Domingo (?) had a great seafood meal over a bottle of sangria. We talked about everything and anything, all the while thinking at the end of the night I will be in heaven while making love to her. After dinner we walked over to Tu Candelas and spent the rest of the night dancing over a bottle of Medellin Ron Rum and soda. She danced very good to everything and looked so sexy. We hugged a lot, touched each other and kissed LFK. Earlier when she first arrived she had a slight headache so I offered and gave her a nice FBSM non-sexual but I got to caress that lovely body of hers and used all my willpower to resist from coming on to her so quickly knowing that a full night of dinner, drinks, dancing and romance would bring me to her fruition.

We left the club about 3:30am and headed to my wonderful beachfront apartment en Laguito, courtesy of venproreviews, and was ready to make this night ingrained in memory for future playback. We had previously made plans for her to spend the entire time with me and she was looking forward to going sightseeing with me everywhere. She doesn't have kids and her older sister had met and married an american via LAC.

Back to the moment, as she went to the bathroom to change, I got comfortable on the bed and was ready for her. She came out of the bathroom in a pair of tiny short shorts and top. We started to LFK again and hugged. All of a sudden she stopped cold turkey, said it was too soon, that we have a few days to get to know each other more, and said goodnight. WTF! I was in shock. We were both buzzed from the alcohol and for a second I thought I was back in the states on a regular date with an american woman. Then realized not! I attempted to massage her and kiss her then finally reason with her but no go. I couldn't believe that I struck out after our amazing time together. I figured she wanted something serious and was probably influenced by her sister to hold out and win me over for a serious relationship. I wasn't ready to play this game and didn't give her any intention of being ready for something serious, just a good experience if the chemistry was there and friendship.

Well I could not sleep having this perfect 10 laying down inches from me. After talking some more I asked her it was best for her to return to Barranquilla and called Marsol transportation to come pick her up at 6am. She appeared confused and I simply told her I felt the chemistry with her and had a fantastic time but I felt she didn't feel the chemistry with me. I was hoping she would give in and she inferred there would be chemistry within a few more days but I didn't come all the way down here to get teased like this and so I stood my ground and she hers. I gave her the cost of travel to and from which I had agreed to do from the beginning. I also bought her a 5K COP bracelet after dinner as a small romantic gesture. Total cost of our night out and expenses 250K COP. I don't regret our time together or the money I spent, only the misunderstanding. It could have been immature on her part or lack of experience from what she told me about her life. But damn I was so close. Goes to show what worked during one visit is not a guarantee of future visits.

I followed the game plan of Hillbilly69 and spent full days at the beach and low and behold there was plenty of talent. Mostly 6-7's but eventually I found several 8's each day and sessioned with 1 for 100K COP ST a hot blondie from MDE, and another for 50K COP a delicious spinner from BQA.

I hit LDV two nights but the first night I was so exhausted from the beach and a detour session with Sandra from the street, that I never went inside and only talked to a beautiful dark woman from BQA. She was holding out for $300K COP as it was early about 11:30pm. After talking for about 20 min she indicated the session would be TLN. But I was too tired for that and got sleepy and went home alone.

I heard reports that Elektra was closed and there was another club that took its place but I never went to see for myself if this was true. I ran into three americans from Miami who were cool to hang out with during my second visit to LDV. If you guys are on this board send me a pm.

I scored a 9 an amazing spinner from BQA for 150K COP ST and she carried herself well, very polished and sexy and sweet. She turned out to be a little nymphomaniac and was my best session of my trip. It's just too bad I met her on my last night in town.

Taxi back to the airport was 15K COP, and it literally took 90 min to get through the lines. The airport is going through renovations and they didn't have enough people working so early in the morning at the counters, whereas last year it only took 10 min.

My wingman wussed out on me this trip but if your reading this the beach scene was way better than last year! I plan on returning in February and spending time in BQA during the carnival events and meeting my favorite women from Colombia. If anyone wants to hang out and check out the clubs let me know.[/QUOTE]A little more persistence from you was required in order to get that booty or more trust in yourself to make her believe you were for real and serious about having a long term relationship with her, you would've probably gotten it if you had spent a couple of more days with her, thats happened to me too with good colombian girls. For sure that was marriage material, good report bro.

I understand your frustration and had to laugh with your WTF? Because you took her out on one date and had a great time but she wouldn't fuck you. Its easy for me to say but I probably would have to have given her one more night out! I got to give this girl a thumbs up! Sorry it didn't work out the way you wanted but I give this girl credit!

[QUOTE=Dos Lunas; 1342968]Just spent 4 days in Cartagena arrived on Wednesday and left Sunday morning. The airport was exchanging $1US dollar to 1700COP. Took a taxi to Bocagrande for 5K COP and stayed at the San Martin for 1 night $83 or 150K COP, including a good full breakfast, which was centrally located and a great botique hotel I found to have great reviews on tripadvisor. The exchange house within walking distance of the hotel was giving 1750COP per $1 US dollar.

Three weeks prior I joined LAC (Latin American Cupid) and had a list of 10 contacts but narrowed it down to three, with the first being my plan A. Plan B and C never showed. I was hoping to repeat last years experience, an amazing GFE experience with a non-pro and solid 8. In fact I still kept in touch but decided not to visit her in Barranquilla and instead try a new experience with my plan A who happens to be from Barranquilla too. She showed up and looked amazing a perfect 10. She is 21 years. 5'6" about 110lbs, light skinned with long black hair, thin waist and flat stomache, nice natural chest, great legs and an ass to die for. And super sweet. She reminded me of last year's GFE but better. I don't know what's going on in Barranquilla but they do have the best natural looking and sweetest women I have ever met.

Plan A this visit got dressed so we could go out and have dinner. OMFG, she looked amazing in a skin tight mini dress and heels. Everywhere we went she got the attention from everyone. We had a nice romantic stroll and dinner at Plaza Santa Domingo (?) had a great seafood meal over a bottle of sangria. We talked about everything and anything, all the while thinking at the end of the night I will be in heaven while making love to her. After dinner we walked over to Tu Candelas and spent the rest of the night dancing over a bottle of Medellin Ron Rum and soda. She danced very good to everything and looked so sexy. We hugged a lot, touched each other and kissed LFK. Earlier when she first arrived she had a slight headache so I offered and gave her a nice FBSM non-sexual but I got to caress that lovely body of hers and used all my willpower to resist from coming on to her so quickly knowing that a full night of dinner, drinks, dancing and romance would bring me to her fruition.

We left the club about 3:30am and headed to my wonderful beachfront apartment en Laguito, courtesy of venproreviews, and was ready to make this night ingrained in memory for future playback. We had previously made plans for her to spend the entire time with me and she was looking forward to going sightseeing with me everywhere. She doesn't have kids and her older sister had met and married an american via LAC.

Back to the moment, as she went to the bathroom to change, I got comfortable on the bed and was ready for her. She came out of the bathroom in a pair of tiny short shorts and top. We started to LFK again and hugged. All of a sudden she stopped cold turkey, said it was too soon, that we have a few days to get to know each other more, and said goodnight. WTF! I was in shock. We were both buzzed from the alcohol and for a second I thought I was back in the states on a regular date with an american woman. Then realized not! I attempted to massage her and kiss her then finally reason with her but no go. I couldn't believe that I struck out after our amazing time together. I figured she wanted something serious and was probably influenced by her sister to hold out and win me over for a serious relationship. I wasn't ready to play this game and didn't give her any intention of being ready for something serious, just a good experience if the chemistry was there and friendship.

Well I could not sleep having this perfect 10 laying down inches from me. After talking some more I asked her it was best for her to return to Barranquilla and called Marsol transportation to come pick her up at 6am. She appeared confused and I simply told her I felt the chemistry with her and had a fantastic time but I felt she didn't feel the chemistry with me. I was hoping she would give in and she inferred there would be chemistry within a few more days but I didn't come all the way down here to get teased like this and so I stood my ground and she hers. I gave her the cost of travel to and from which I had agreed to do from the beginning. I also bought her a 5K COP bracelet after dinner as a small romantic gesture. Total cost of our night out and expenses 250K COP. I don't regret our time together or the money I spent, only the misunderstanding. It could have been immature on her part or lack of experience from what she told me about her life. But damn I was so close. Goes to show what worked during one visit is not a guarantee of future visits.

I followed the game plan of Hillbilly69 and spent full days at the beach and low and behold there was plenty of talent. Mostly 6-7's but eventually I found several 8's each day and sessioned with 1 for 100K COP ST a hot blondie from MDE, and another for 50K COP a delicious spinner from BQA.

I hit LDV two nights but the first night I was so exhausted from the beach and a detour session with Sandra from the street, that I never went inside and only talked to a beautiful dark woman from BQA. She was holding out for $300K COP as it was early about 11:30pm. After talking for about 20 min she indicated the session would be TLN. But I was too tired for that and got sleepy and went home alone.

I heard reports that Elektra was closed and there was another club that took its place but I never went to see for myself if this was true. I ran into three americans from Miami who were cool to hang out with during my second visit to LDV. If you guys are on this board send me a pm.

I scored a 9 an amazing spinner from BQA for 150K COP ST and she carried herself well, very polished and sexy and sweet. She turned out to be a little nymphomaniac and was my best session of my trip. It's just too bad I met her on my last night in town.

Taxi back to the airport was 15K COP, and it literally took 90 min to get through the lines. The airport is going through renovations and they didn't have enough people working so early in the morning at the counters, whereas last year it only took 10 min.

My wingman wussed out on me this trip but if your reading this the beach scene was way better than last year! I plan on returning in February and spending time in BQA during the carnival events and meeting my favorite women from Colombia. If anyone wants to hang out and check out the clubs let me know.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dos Lunas; 1342968]... Back to the moment, as she went to the bathroom to change, I got comfortable on the bed and was ready for her. She came out of the bathroom in a pair of tiny short shorts and top. We started to LFK again and hugged. All of a sudden she stopped cold turkey, said it was too soon, that we have a few days to get to know each other more, and said goodnight. WTF! I was in shock. We were both buzzed from the alcohol and for a second I thought I was back in the states on a regular date with an american woman. Then realized not! I attempted to massage her and kiss her then finally reason with her but no go. I couldn't believe that I struck out after our amazing time together. I figured she wanted something serious and was probably influenced by her sister to hold out and win me over for a serious relationship. I wasn't ready to play this game and didn't give her any intention of being ready for something serious, just a good experience if the chemistry was there and friendship.

Well I could not sleep having this perfect 10 laying down inches from me. After talking some more I asked her it was best for her to return to Barranquilla and called Marsol transportation to come pick her up at 6am...[/QUOTE]I understand a girl wanting to wait a few days and go on a couple of dates. Nevertheless, if that is her "plan" she should NOT expect to spend the night at your apartment. If this biatch thought that she could spend the night at your apartment and not give up the pussy, then she was playing you as either a friend or a fool!

You Did the Right Thing!
Helpmann :)

[QUOTE=Helpmann; 1343487]I understand a girl wanting to wait a few days and go on a couple of dates. Nevertheless, if that is her "plan" she should NOT expect to spend the night at your apartment. If this biatch thought that she could spend the night at your apartment and not give up the pussy, then she was playing you as either a friend or a fool!

You Did the Right Thing!

Helpmann.[/QUOTE]Yeah! WTH! I'm mid 50's and have only slept with two woman that my cock didn't end up somewhere warm. Once it was a distant cousin and let me tell you even that was hard. She had some beautiful tits and I'm not 100% sure I didn't cop a feel. The other was actually a Columbiana in MDE. And she was a blast and we were trashed drunk.

So I was thinking of flying down for a week and enjoying some of what CTG has to offer. Read the forums and I've been once before. Saw some mention of Fabio the Wingman and thougt what th heck, couldn't hurt.

"The girls go from 200 dollars on."

And he's talking USD. WTH! I think he's thinking he's Tony II.

Jeez

[QUOTE=SimonHeSays; 1343502]So I was thinking of flying down for a week and enjoying some of what CTG has to offer. Read the forums and I've been once before. Saw some mention of Fabio the Wingman and thougt what th heck, couldn't hurt.

"The girls go from 200 dollars on."

And he's talking USD. WTH! I think he's thinking he's Tony II.

Jeez[/QUOTE]Oh really? I have been using Fabio and he is very honest and does what he says he is going to do, I don't think he is like Tony, Tony is a street hustler you have to keep an eye on at every single turn, Fabio is a very happy person, kind, educated with class. I used Tony and he bumped prices up on the drinks and everything way too much and the girls he brought weren't all that nice then that first night of my vacation I checked out girls by myself from some fine strip joints, and man! They were even more than 200 USD for the entire night plus the multa for them to leave the house and in my opinion LDV is getting a little expensive isn't it? Whats wrong with Electra, no more bargain after 3 AM LOL?

speedbump says elektra is reopening tonight according to their facebook page.

isis has opened and closed more than once for whatever reason, who knows what the reasoning behind elektra closing is, maybe aldo took a vacation during slow season.

[QUOTE=CartaAngel;1343513]Oh really? I have been using Fabio and he is very honest and does what he says he is going to do, I don't think he is like Tony, Tony is a street hustler you have to keep an eye on at every single turn, Fabio is a very happy person, kind, educated with class. I used Tony and he bumped prices up on the drinks and everything way too much and the girls he brought weren't all that nice then that first night of my vacation I checked out girls by myself from some fine strip joints, and man! They were even more than 200 USD for the entire night plus the multa for them to leave the house and in my opinion LDV is getting a little expensive isn't it? Whats wrong with Electra, no more bargain after 3 AM LOL?[/QUOTE]I don't have an opinion on his happiness, intelligence, and classiness. I don't know the man. But if you're telling me that I have to pay $200 for an overnight in CTG why would I go there? I can do that here. It's a lot of work but it can be done. What I wanted was a vacation where it wasn't so much work.

I haven't seen a lot of talk about $$. Can other members talk about what they have been paying?

Prices vary depending on girl and yourselves. My TLN record is 100-150 K COP for very nice ones but not top shelf. Any transaction facilitator will try to add the same amount to your bill if you play their game. Don't use them or use them but play your game. I have seen very few top girls in CTG and they charged 200K COP for ST, and I have seen them doing at least 2 ST's in one evening, so $200 may sound reasonable.

[QUOTE=SimonHeSays; 1343717]I don't have an opinion on his happiness, intelligence, and classiness. I don't know the man. But if you're telling me that I have to pay $200 for an overnight in CTG why would I go there? I can do that here. It's a lot of work but it can be done. What I wanted was a vacation where it wasn't so much work.

I haven't seen a lot of talk about $$. Can other members talk about what they have been paying?[/QUOTE]To me, A good reason to go to CTG is the experience of being there with real latinas as I call them (laughing) in a very charming and lovely city like Cartagena itself, the best place to be after my home of course! I know it is possible to get some girls for that price you say in the States though you have to put your talking skills to work at high RPMs, Colombian girls are the same, you talk them into whatever you would like them to do, and if they dig or like you, you can probably get their pussies for even less than they are asking for, so it all depends on the way you approach latinas in Cartagena, good attitude thats my advice my friend.

[QUOTE=You Can;1342404]If you can get a flight for a good price, just ditch the all inclusive and stop talking about hotels. Cartagena is best to have Apartment. That is my advice to you. Good luck![/QUOTE]Thanks for the good advices everyone. I bought a flight from Jan 2 to Jan 10.

I will be looking for an apartment and will read the posts to see where to find good pussy.

I am heading to Cartagena Nov 14 and I can't wait to get there. I rented a condo from Juan Ventura for 95. 00 per night including the maid. I could get one for 75. 00 but I prefer the one I got for a little more. Its a nice apartment. I will post reports day by day while I am there, one it gives me something to do instead of getting lost in a bottle of rum and 2 names and places will be fresh in my mind, not altered by the extreme amounts of Rum that I consume while I am there.

[QUOTE=ThirstyTravel; 1344405]Thanks for the good advices everyone. I bought a flight from Jan 2 to Jan 10.

I will be looking for an apartment and will read the posts to see where to find good pussy.[/QUOTE]

Elecktra did re-open Thurs. Night. Photo of Fao on front page of Thurs edition of local rag and on page 3 along with full story. Sicaro put bullets in a guy visiting at Fao's house Wed. Evening. One bullet grazed Fao, targeted individual in critical condition. The reason? Guy was running his mouth. It's Colombia.

First, please guys don't flame me. I'm not a rookie, but I will be a Columbian rookie. I know the rules and I definitely RTFF. I have read about 50 pages each in the Medellin and Cartagena forums in preparation for my 10 night trip at the end of February. I'm wondering what the advantages of one over the other and whether I should split the time in the two locations or just stay in one location. I appreciate any feedback.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2; 1344796]First, please guys don't flame me. I'm not a rookie, but I will be a Columbian rookie. I know the rules and I definitely RTFF. I have read about 50 pages each in the Medellin and Cartagena forums in preparation for my 10 night trip at the end of February. I'm wondering what the advantages of one over the other and whether I should split the time in the two locations or just stay in one location. I appreciate any feedback.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Wednesday to Friday. 3 nights in CTG. Rent a nice 2 bed condo. Stock your fridge with booze and take girls in and have fun. Travel with a buddy. MDE has got casas, strip clubs and more street action which are fun if one travels alone. CTG is dead boring beyond couple of days.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;1344703]Elecktra did re-open Thurs. Night. Photo of Fao on front page of Thurs edition of local rag and on page 3 along with full story. Sicaro put bullets in a guy visiting at Fao's house Wed. Evening. One bullet grazed Fao, targeted individual in critical condition. The reason? Guy was running his mouth. It's Colombia.[/QUOTE]Thanks hilltopper for the elektra's latest news, I am looking forward to my next visit in ctg I can't wait to get back, maybe some day we can hook up there in the future and have a beer or two while enjoying the beauty of colombian women, best regards to you.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;1344703]Elecktra did re-open Thurs. Night. Photo of Fao on front page of Thurs edition of local rag and on page 3 along with full story. Sicaro put bullets in a guy visiting at Fao's house Wed. Evening. One bullet grazed Fao, targeted individual in critical condition. The reason? Guy was running his mouth. It's Colombia.[/QUOTE]Was looking for that story but could not find that paper? Any help, thanks

Most people have a different take on these two cities. You can't go wrong with splitting your trip up because then you can experience both cities. But for me I could easily and have spent 10 days in Cartagena. I am not really into street walkers and strip clubs, definitely am not into casas. I prefer the way LDV and Elecktra along with other bars do it in Cartagena. I enjoy spending my days on the beach (Cartagena beach is nothing great but I still enjoy it) just being able to sit on a sandy beach and watch all the girls in there bikinis and drinking I can't get enouph of it. There are plenty of girls walking the beach if you want one for the afternoon. Usually after a day at the beach I feel pretty good and have had a nice amount of rum in me and I will head home and take a nice nap from say 6 pm to 11 pm and then I will get dressed and head out. I love that I can get a nice dinner all hours of the night and into the next morning here. I usually head up to Requisimo and eat or just head rite to LDV and get a table and a bottle of rum. From there I can relax and check out which girl I want for the night or just a couple hours. Because the party doesn't stop till 6 or 7 am or anytime before. I pretty much do this every day. Some nights I mix in the walled city and regular little bars (like a german bar in Getsemani (SP) but I neverr got bored and always mix up my days and nights. Its always an adventure. But I am a drinker and Party guy down there so it always flys by to fast. One other note its Colombia, not Columbia. Have a great trip and feel free to PM for any info I didn't answer.

[QUOTE=AlwaysHorny 2; 1344796]First, please guys don't flame me. I'm not a rookie, but I will be a Columbian rookie. I know the rules and I definitely RTFF. I have read about 50 pages each in the Medellin and Cartagena forums in preparation for my 10 night trip at the end of February. I'm wondering what the advantages of one over the other and whether I should split the time in the two locations or just stay in one location. I appreciate any feedback.

Thanks![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=You Can;1344943]Most people have a different take on these two cities. You can't go wrong with splitting your trip up because then you can experience both cities. But for me I could easily and have spent 10 days in Cartagena. I am not really into street walkers and strip clubs, definitely am not into casas. I prefer the way LDV and Elecktra along with other bars do it in Cartagena. I enjoy spending my days on the beach (Cartagena beach is nothing great but I still enjoy it) just being able to sit on a sandy beach and watch all the girls in there bikinis and drinking I can't get enouph of it. There are plenty of girls walking the beach if you want one for the afternoon. Usually after a day at the beach I feel pretty good and have had a nice amount of rum in me and I will head home and take a nice nap from say 6 pm to 11 pm and then I will get dressed and head out. I love that I can get a nice dinner all hours of the night and into the next morning here. I usually head up to Requisimo and eat or just head rite to LDV and get a table and a bottle of rum. From there I can relax and check out which girl I want for the night or just a couple hours. Because the party doesn't stop till 6 or 7 am or anytime before. I pretty much do this every day. Some nights I mix in the walled city and regular little bars (like a german bar in Getsemani (SP) but I neverr got bored and always mix up my days and nights. Its always an adventure. But I am a drinker and Party guy down there so it always flys by to fast. One other note its Colombia, not Columbia. Have a great trip and feel free to PM for any info I didn't answer.[/QUOTE]I would definitely agree with this poster, You Can.

If you're into the fun and partying till the wee hours of the morning, Cartagena is definitely more your destination.

Like he says, the beach is not the greatest, but it does the trick for watching and chattin pretty girls and soaking some sun.

Though you can party too in Medellin, it's not 7 days a week like Cartagena.

In Medellin you can definitely find cheaper PFP though, just depends on what you're into.

You could hit Cartagena first, party like a rock star for 5 days or so, if you're diggin the vibe and meet some keepers (muchachas) , then stay, if you want to beat feet and relax a bit more, see and feel a different vibe, go from the carribean beach to the hills, then move on to Medellin.

Be flexible, for me it works best.

Have fun!

Cartagena has Juan Ventura for apartments . Medellin has Bbrocs. Cartagena has a beach. Medellin has Parque Lleras. Cartagena has Tony. Medellin has Aussie Greg . Cartagena has La Dulce Vida. Medellin has Fase II . Cartagena has cheap street rats in Getsemini . Medellin has them in Mayorista. Cartagena the heat index is around 100 degrees f where as Medellin is mid 70s. If your looking for a fiancee don't go to Cartagena they are already engaged to Medellin dudes. Lmao. Flip a coin.

Nice!

QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1345427]Cartagena has Juan Ventura for apartments. Medellin has Bbrocs. Cartagena has a beach. Medellin has Parque Lleras. Cartagena has Tony. Medellin has Aussie Greg. Cartagena has La Dulce Vida. Medellin has Fase II. Cartagena has cheap street rats in Getsemini. Medellin has them in Mayorista. Cartagena the heat index is around 100 degrees f where as Medellin is mid 70s. If your looking for a fiancee don't go to Cartagena they are already engaged to Medellin dudes. Lmao. Flip a coin.[/QUOTE]

My guide in Ctg sent me this funny thing and I'd like to share it with you fellas, please read below and see how you make sounds while reading English words and you can actually say something in Spanish LOL, it can be helpful though.

-—-—-

Boss I wanted to take the time to teach you a few common spanish words in a very funny way.

There's always something to learn or to try, many times you need to say some phrases in Spanish, but you don't know how to say them, don't worry, your problems have ended, if your are a gringo and you don't know how to speak Spanish, it'll be helpful in your learning. For an instance, we took from it some common phrases, just try and you're going to see the difference and how easy it is to speak Spanish.

(léanlo en ingles, esta genial!) (read in english to look for the sound of the spanish word, it's fun)

1. Boy as and are = Voy a cenar = I'm going to have dinner.

2. N L C John = en el sillon = on the armchair

3. Be a hope and song = viejo panzon = fat old man.

4. Who and see to seek ago = Juancito se cagó = Little John is a chickenshit. (jajaja. Coño que bueno)

5. S toy tree stone = estoy triston = I'm kind a sad.

6. Lost trap eat toss = los trapitos = the little rags

7. Desk can saw = descanso = (I) rest.

8. As say toon as = aceitunas = olives.

9. The head the star mall less stand dough = deje de estar molestando = stop bugging me.

10. See eye = si hay = yes we have.

11. T and s free o? = tienes frio = are you cold?

12. T N S L P P B N T S O = Tienes el pipi bien tieso = you have an erection.

13. Tell o boy ah in cruise tar = Te lo voy a incrustar = I'm going to insert it in you.

Be happy, Life's good!

Any advices on hotel that are girl friendly or apartments?

Juan doesn't have anything less than $200 per day. It is for Jan 2 to Jan 9. It is the high season he says.

[QUOTE=ThirstyTravel; 1345655]Any advices on hotel that are girl friendly or apartments?

Juan doesn't have anything less than $200 per day. It is for Jan 2 to Jan 9. It is the high season he says.[/QUOTE]Contact Mery for an apartment. Maybe even send a deposit to make sure she saves you one. Get a 20 dollar memberhip here so someone who has an apartement there can contact you.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1345894]Contact Mery for an apartment. Maybe even send a deposit to make sure she saves you one. Get a 20 dollar memberhip here so someone who has an apartement there can contact you.[/QUOTE]There are actually 2 rental seasons, Dec 27-Jan 2 and Jan 3-14, prices are high for anything, especially in Laguito or castille, Boca grande might be a little cheaper. Apts that are nice in Laguito are $200-$800 a day, only a few gringos will pay that but Colombians from Medellin, Bogata will, no problem. By the way, best weather in Cartagena starts late December until April, almost cloudless, high winds in Feb / March but nothing like the summer heat. Best chica time is early December, mannnny chicas from all over Colombia on break from school and need tuition or Christmas money.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1345427]Cartagena has Juan Ventura for apartments . Medellin has Bbrocs. Cartagena has a beach. Medellin has Parque Lleras. Cartagena has Tony. Medellin has Aussie Greg . Cartagena has La Dulce Vida. Medellin has Fase II . Cartagena has cheap street rats in Getsemini . Medellin has them in Mayorista. Cartagena the heat index is around 100 degrees f where as Medellin is mid 70s. If your looking for a fiancee don't go to Cartagena they are already engaged to Medellin dudes. Lmao. Flip a coin.[/QUOTE]Spot on! The only difference is I haven't found a place in CTG that has the top flight talent you see at Loutron in MDE. Hell, you probably have to go to Bogota or Panama City to match that talent, not even in other parts of MDE.

[QUOTE=Paracite;1346040]Spot on! The only difference is I haven't found a place in CTG that has the top flight talent you see at Loutron in MDE. Hell, you probably have to go to Bogota or Panama City to match that talent, not even in other parts of MDE.[/QUOTE]True but ISIS has some lookers at times.

[QUOTE=Paracite;1346040]Spot on! The only difference is I haven't found a place in CTG that has the top flight talent you see at Loutron in MDE. Hell, you probably have to go to Bogota or Panama City to match that talent, not even in other parts of MDE.[/QUOTE]Try Pleyboy and Paradiso, usually stunners during the holidays, especially with the SS laying low. I know some from Cartagena and barranquilla that are spectacular. It is surprising what is there if you ask for and don't settle. Problem is that usually the 9-10's think that they are "special" and the sex isn't, IMHO. There are even some escort services (haven't tried) as in all Colombia.

[QUOTE=Paracite;1346040]Spot on! The only difference is I haven't found a place in CTG that has the top flight talent you see at Loutron in MDE. Hell, you probably have to go to Bogota or Panama City to match that talent, not even in other parts of MDE.[/QUOTE]I'm in Costa Rica right now, and The hotel Del Ray in San Jose has top talent at a price from $70 to $100 ST. I'm not there to monger, but I walk thru that hotel a few times a day just for the eye candy. Some Nicas, and DR girls are also there so you get a good taste of different colors.

As far as CTG I have always had good luck finding hot chicas, but same as Costa Rica the price is a little more than I like to pay.

[QUOTE=John Gault; 1346162]I'm in Costa Rica right now, and The hotel Del Ray in San Jose has top talent at a price from $70 to $100 ST. I'm not there to monger, but I walk thru that hotel a few times a day just for the eye candy. Some Nicas, and DR girls are also there so you get a good taste of different colors.

As far as CTG I have always had good luck finding hot chicas, but same as Costa Rica the price is a little more than I like to pay.[/QUOTE]Exactamente amigo. The " chica union" at the Del Rey boycotted my ass. I was sticking with my 70usd tln price with BBBJ and they weren't having it. Fortunately my boy took me to HLH and the girls were nicer and more reasonable. One older gentleman I was sitting next to at the Del Rey disappeared for an hour with two fine Ticas. He paid 240usd to the both of them just to eat pussy for an hour. Fuck the Del Rey and those rip-off broads.

So, following the recent posts. I have another question. With all the women coming up to CTG for the holidays, what nightclubs (not strip clubs) might you find the hottest / high-end, well-to-do, girls partying?

[QUOTE=LocoGringo;1346142]Try Pleyboy and Paradiso, usually stunners during the holidays, especially with the SS laying low. I know some from Cartagena and barranquilla that are spectacular. It is surprising what is there if you ask for and don't settle. Problem is that usually the 9-10's think that they are "special" and the sex isn't, IMHO. There are even some escort services (haven't tried) as in all Colombia.[/QUOTE]In my 3 trips to ctg, I have yet to see a girl at pleyclub I would call a stunner, the vast majority were 6s and 7s with an odd 8 in there. It's never been one of my regular go to spots, so I may just be going on off nights.

[QUOTE=Chill Bill;1346198]So, following the recent posts. I have another question. With all the women coming up to CTG for the holidays, what nightclubs (not strip clubs) might you find the hottest / high-end, well-to-do, girls partying?[/QUOTE]Mr babillas and fragma are 2 of the good clubs in ctg with a lot of regular hotties

I love 6, 7or 8's I understand a guys need to have a beautiful girl but really I don't give a fuck about the most beautiful girl, give me a fun decent looking girl who is into me and I am happy. Last thing I want to do is look for the best looking girl and worst fuck in the club. You can have her. I have had some of the most beautiful girls in the world, so I am over that. If it happens good, but I am fine with a girl that digs me, and there plenty out there. I couldn't give a fuck if there a 10.

[QUOTE=Paracite;1346231]In my 3 trips to ctg, I have yet to see a girl at pleyclub I would call a stunner, the vast majority were 6s and 7s with an odd 8 in there. It's never been one of my regular go to spots, so I may just be going on off nights.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=You Can;1346397]I love 6, 7or 8's I understand a guys need to have a beautiful girl but really I don't give a fuck about the most beautiful girl, give me a fun decent looking girl who is into me and I am happy. Last thing I want to do is look for the best looking girl and worst fuck in the club. You can have her. I have had some of the most beautiful girls in the world, so I am over that. If it happens good, but I am fine with a girl that digs me, and there plenty out there. I couldn't give a fuck if there a 10.[/QUOTE]I appreciate the generosity, leaving the best looking girls for me. Before people get all bent out of shape, I wasn't saying there was anything wrong with the other places and options in Cartagena and Medellin, just that CTG doesn't have a place that consistently has a number of 9's and 10's.

And my experience tells me that the hottest looking girl doesn't necessarily mean bad experience. I've had girls from Loutron and Fase II that have let me do anything and everything to them. I'm no special case, I'm not attractive and I'm not suave with the girls, you just have to find the right one.

[QUOTE=Paracite;1346248]Mr babillas and fragma are 2 of the good clubs in ctg with a lot of regular hotties[/QUOTE]So are we saying mr babillas and fragma would be a decent place to shop for p4p? Haven't heard this in the past? Any one confirm or deny.

Thanks

[QUOTE=You Can;1346397]I love 6, 7or 8's I understand a guys need to have a beautiful girl but really I don't give a fuck about the most beautiful girl, give me a fun decent looking girl who is into me and I am happy. Last thing I want to do is look for the best looking girl and worst fuck in the club. You can have her. I have had some of the most beautiful girls in the world, so I am over that. If it happens good, but I am fine with a girl that digs me, and there plenty out there. I couldn't give a fuck if there a 10.[/QUOTE]In 6 years of steady mongering in a good part of Latin America I have found the best experences is with the 7 or 8 girls. I have had plenty of 9s, and a few 10s, and have found all but one of them to be of the starfish type. The one GFE I had with a 9 was in BAQ, and she was just starting out.

The only exception I make is in a casa run. Then it is more of me picking the pretty girl with a nice smile as a GFE is not what what I expect to find in that kind of a setting. In the rare chance a real hottie is into me than I quickly extract her phone number for the more preffered off site action.

I think being with the 9s or 10s is more of an ego thing while going for the less spectagular girl brings the coveted GFE into a better chance for sucess.

A little off topic, but I have noticed quite a few posters paying extra for DATY. I have done my share of DATY, but only if the session is going great, and then I feel I'm doing her a favor as she is getting pleasure from it. I never ask in advance for that or besos as to me besos are part of the GFE, and should never be asked for in the barganing part of the event. The only thing I ask for in advance is the BBBJ. For me without the BBBJ I would just pass, and look further. Sure you may say why do I ask for a BBBJ, and not besos or DATY. My reasoning is besos and DATY are part of the GFE while a BBBJ is more of a must for me.

[QUOTE=Joey Smith; 1346508]So are we saying mr babillas and fragma would be a decent place to shop for p4p? Haven't heard this in the past? Any one confirm or deny.

Thanks[/QUOTE]I hope that's not what he was saying, either of those places would be poor choices for p4p, although there would be occasional strays at either place.

Mr. Babillas is a local legend, but in reality about the last place I'd go if I was trying to get laid. Fragma would be better, or Babar, or Cafe Del Mar, or Tucandela,

Any of these places will have regular non-pros mixed in with some p4p girls. YMMV depending on spanish skills and your game in general.

If I'm strictly looking to p4p, I'd go to LDV where it's like shooting fish in a barrel. But that's just me.

Holla CartaAngel I am a new subscriber and I recently signed up just to thank you and everybody on this website, I followed your recommendation a while back when I read your msg about who to use as a tour guide when in ctg, I went ahead and used Fabio last week, and he did a great job, I met a really cute chica non-pro through him, I am very much looking forward to seeing her again soon and her family too.

It was funny I was pretty nervous to be in a foreign country like Columbia but Ctg was fine it was not too bad, beautiful city. First day Fabio showed us around we went to some casas and had sex until I couldn't see anymore Lmao! We also went to Playa Holliwood the next day and it was dead I liked the old city better, to me laguito is boring, I rented a nice house with a private pool and Jacuzzi with my home feller that my wingman took us to, it is right in Getsemani near Mr babilas, by the way guys FYI when going to tu candela disco beware of Trannies I almost kissed one of those dudes in women's clothing yuck! I heard Medellin is a good place to go that will be my next stop I will check with you later about another wingman as good as Fabio in Medellin, I might just take him with me next time, thanks.

[QUOTE=Paracite; 1346424]I appreciate the generosity, leaving the best looking girls for me. Before people get all bent out of shape, I wasn't saying there was anything wrong with the other places and options in Cartagena and Medellin, just that CTG doesn't have a place that consistently has a number of 9's and 10's.

And my experience tells me that the hottest looking girl doesn't necessarily mean bad experience. I've had girls from Loutron and Fase II that have let me do anything and everything to them. I'm no special case, I'm not attractive and I'm not suave with the girls, you just have to find the right one.[/QUOTE]Apparently ISG removes all smileys, if you couldn't tell, the first part of my response was in jest

[QUOTE=TheShadow2; 1346765]I hope that's not what he was saying, either of those places would be poor choices for p4p, although there would be occasional strays at either place.

Mr. Babillas is a local legend, but in reality about the last place I'd go if I was trying to get laid. Fragma would be better, or Babar, or Cafe Del Mar, or Tucandela,

Any of these places will have regular non-pros mixed in with some p4p girls. YMMV depending on spanish skills and your game in general.

If I'm strictly looking to p4p, I'd go to LDV where it's like shooting fish in a barrel. But that's just me.[/QUOTE]I wasn't talking about P4P. When Joey asked about "well-to-do girls," I automatically thought normal girls. You don't find many "well-to-do girls" whoring themselves out openly anywhere in world that I know of, though I'm not a well seasoned monger by any means. I'd throw in Bhoga Bar into the mix of places with normal girls.

LDV and Elektra (or whatever has opened up in its place) are the go to spots for p4p free-lancers.

[QUOTE=Joey Smith; 1346508]So are we saying mr babillas and fragma would be a decent place to shop for p4p? Haven't heard this in the past? Any one confirm or deny.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Mr Babilla I was approached by the bouncer on one occasion who showed me some hot ones in his iphone and offered to point out chicas inside that were available. He didn't have pics of the faces of his iphone girls or I would have had me a couple.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1346920]Mr Babilla I was approached by the bouncer on one occasion who showed me some hot ones in his iphone and offered to point out chicas inside that were available. He didn't have pics of the faces of his iphone girls or I would have had me a couple.[/QUOTE]One more place to shop. Thanks for the tips. Back in December staying at my apartment in LaGuito.

You were in Colombia my man, not Columbia!

[QUOTE=IlClan; 1346791]Holla CartaAngel I am a new subscriber and I recently signed up just to thank you and everybody on this website, I followed your recommendation a while back when I read your msg about who to use as a tour guide when in ctg, I went ahead and used Fabio last week, and he did a great job, I met a really cute chica non-pro through him, I am very much looking forward to seeing her again soon and her family too.

It was funny I was pretty nervous to be in a foreign country like Columbia but Ctg was fine it was not too bad, beautiful city. First day Fabio showed us around we went to some casas and had sex until I couldn't see anymore Lmao! We also went to Playa Holliwood the next day and it was dead I liked the old city better, to me laguito is boring, I rented a nice house with a private pool and Jacuzzi with my home feller that my wingman took us to, it is right in Getsemani near Mr babilas, by the way guys FYI when going to tu candela disco beware of Trannies I almost kissed one of those dudes in women's clothing yuck! I heard Medellin is a good place to go that will be my next stop I will check with you later about another wingman as good as Fabio in Medellin, I might just take him with me next time, thanks.[/QUOTE]

Paracite you have no argument here but it cracks me up when these guys, some my friends go up to the best looking girls in some of these P4P clubs that do have some real lookers and pick one up, (one) over priced because the girl had no interest in the guy and (two) didn't even enjoy being with the guy then he wonders why she was a lousy lay? Its pretty simple she didn't even want to be with the guy in the first place! Now if I hit it off with a really hot looking one great! But I have to admit I rather have the 7 thats a ball of fun and there plentyful. I don't have the time to wait for a great looking one! But you go my man, if you can find them good for you.

I had one really great one 2 trips back in Cartagena, one of the nicest girls I met and a clear 10. But that is rare, she was fantastic.

[QUOTE=Paracite; 1346424]I appreciate the generosity, leaving the best looking girls for me. Before people get all bent out of shape, I wasn't saying there was anything wrong with the other places and options in Cartagena and Medellin, just that CTG doesn't have a place that consistently has a number of 9's and 10's.

And my experience tells me that the hottest looking girl doesn't necessarily mean bad experience. I've had girls from Loutron and Fase II that have let me do anything and everything to them. I'm no special case, I'm not attractive and I'm not suave with the girls, you just have to find the right one.[/QUOTE]

Just a note, in LDV quite a few girls are cold dead lesbians, moreover on occasion you may find yourself in competition with a local or other LA country gentlemen and in the Old City clubs the crowd is much younger. There are very few divas there and without good cards in hands there is too much effort to take them out. However kudos to anyone who can dance, talk and beer them away to a decent place.

Heading down for Thanksgiving week, any one have any advice? Tour guide?

[QUOTE=GreenTree;1348303]Heading down for Thanksgiving week, any one have any advice? Tour guide?[/QUOTE]Read the map from top down in order of importance, you don't need a guide.

[url]https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?vps=3&jsv=329b&hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=202115846141467908565.0004a0706d2b411420a83[/url]

[QUOTE=GreenTree;1348303]Heading down for Thanksgiving week, any one have any advice? Tour guide?[/QUOTE]If it is your first time in Ctg, I advise using a tour guide or local wingman who can help you understand the culture in that enchanting caribbean city, trust me it is easy to get in there but hard to get out when you are having lots of fun (smile) , Fabio the wingman can translate for you if you don't speak Spanish and also show you a different experience that a lot of tourists miss out on, Cartagena is a great place, good choice for thanks giving!

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1348498]Read the map from top down in order of importance, you don't need a guide.

[url]https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?vps=3&jsv=329b&hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=202115846141467908565.0004a0706d2b411420a83[/url][/QUOTE]Isn't it time to put Hillbilly69 map to Reports of Distinction, so that all the Cartagena newcomers will see it?

How is it done?

I made two mongering trips to Cartagena and trips were mostly based on this map.

It is of great help to everybody who don't know anything about Cartagena, you get good general view of the city and see where all the important mongering places are.

Thinking about hiring the tour guide named Fabio that has been recommended on a few sights. I am a first timer to Cartagena and am not extremely confident in my Spanish. However, the price seems a little high. I'm not a budget traveler, but don want to get taken to he cleaners either. I will be there for six nights by the way.

Any advice?

Hi, I have no connection to any tour guides there, but have been there a number of times and I really don't think you need a "guide". Please follow the previous info and map. You go to the beach during the day, maybe mix in some sightseeing, eat either high end or low end, both are readily available, then mix your nights with LDV and the regular clubs in centro. There will also be alot of us gringos down there at that time, its not hard to meet up with someone on the beach, etc. By the way my spanish is poor, but I always manage. I'm headed down for my 5th trip, its a great time, you won't be dissappointed. By the way, where are those daily reports You can promised?

[QUOTE=GreenTree; 1349799]Thinking about hiring the tour guide named Fabio that has been recommended on a few sights. I am a first timer to Cartagena and am not extremely confident in my Spanish. However, the price seems a little high. I'm not a budget traveler, but don want to get taken to he cleaners either. I will be there for six nights by the way.

Any advice?[/QUOTE]I'm skeptical of guys who make fake accounts to promote themselves with fake references.

There are two guides / hustlers mentioned on ISG that have extremely suspicious "testimonials". Fabio is one of them.

Check the guy giving the reference. Only one post on the forum, and it's to promote some tour guide.

Check CartaAngel's posts. He's pimping this one guide all the time, or trying to be the middleman on rental apartments.

He has good English and makes an effort to disguise it. Once you look closely you can see traces where he writes like a Colombian.

You can draw your own conclusions from that.

Some LDV girls actually double as guides. Attached certified guides for serious inquires.

[QUOTE=Cachorro; 1350431]I'm skeptical of guys who make fake accounts to promote themselves with fake references.

There are two guides / hustlers mentioned on ISG that have extremely suspicious "testimonials". Fabio is one of them.

Check the guy giving the reference. Only one post on the forum, and it's to promote some tour guide.

Check CartaAngel's posts. He's pimping this one guide all the time, or trying to be the middleman on rental apartments.

He has good English and makes an effort to disguise it. Once you look closely you can see traces where he writes like a Colombian.

You can draw your own conclusions from that.[/QUOTE]Hey Cachorro what you say might be true but it does not apply in my case if I always mention Fabio it's when I read someone's message looking for a good tour guide, everybody on this site has a person they trust in Colombia either for chicas or for rentals Why not recommend to newbies and no I am not trying to get a cut out of apt rentals Fabio takes care of me and you know, I am just helping him out, any problem with that?

[QUOTE=Questner;1350454]Some LDV girls actually double as guides. Attached certified guides for serious inquires.[/QUOTE]Another option is the Taxi driver Mery uses alot, can't remember his name a heavy set jolly older fellow who sits across the street from Marinare alot.

He is a English speaking guide as well.

I would personally walk to the beach find a girl with a big set of tits to be my guide.

On another note if Fabio is posting he should realize it is acceptable to do so.

Just as long as Bruce don't get a username and offer child care services in Cartagena we should be alright.

I've been studying this map like its a final exam LOL. Thanks Hillbilly69 for the great insight.

[QUOTE=Leblon; 1348669]Isn't it time to put Hillbilly69 map to Reports of Distinction, so that all the Cartagena newcomers will see it?

How is it done?

I made two mongering trips to Cartagena and trips were mostly based on this map.

It is of great help to everybody who don't know anything about Cartagena, you get good general view of the city and see where all the important mongering places are.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HangerOne;1351845]I've been studying this map like its a final exam LOL. Thanks Hillbilly69 for the great insight.[/QUOTE]

Just don't make the mistake of missing the beach on Sunday, it is usually off the hook. By the looks of some girl's Facebook pages there seems to be some " Vacations " going on now! LMAO

Be sure to get phone numbers of LDV and Elektra girls so you can bang them by day for alot less price and don't assume that you see a girl at the beach one day that she will be back again, gather numbers.

Don't forget your soft cooler for the beach and stake out your chair for the afternoon, don't just walk through and assume there is nothing going on, approach the girls yourself or offer them a beer.

Throw in a few Gatorades to go with your beer at the beach, the sun and heat will beat you if you let them.

If you arrive early in the afternoon at the beach and don't have time to get a SIM card just send Emily to get one for you and send some pesos her way, she does manicures, pedicures and massages .

Best place to get your beer, ice and such is the Exito express near Caribe Hotel in Bocagrande if your buying alot, it is walking distance.

If a girl smiles and waves in Laguito by day it probably isn't because your handsome it is probably because she is working, keep that in mind .

If the price of a beach girl is over 100k pesos your getting middled, leave the beach then call her and let Tony stiff the next sucker.

If you are confused as to which are working girls and which aren't ask Emily at the beach.

If you are one of Tony's chairs or cabanas don't give him more than 15k for the day, he will ***** and whine, just give him the money and walk off the beach.

Make sure to have a beer at Plaza Santo Domingo, Cafe Del Mar and Casa De Cerbasa at night just for the views and people watching.

Just a heads up I will be posting a full report on my trip very soon. I had a blast!

I finally was able to recover some pictures from my trip in July. These pics go along with this report:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?582-Cartagena-Reports&p=1310064&viewfull=1#post1310064[/url]

Like I said in the report, I didn't find amazingly hot girls, but they were still good enough to poke. Unfortunately all except for 1 showed old battle wounds from pregnancy upon closer inspection. Colombiana's need to learn about the pill! Looking forward to my upcoming trip to Havana.

I went to CTG from Nov 5-11. This was my 5th trip to CTG, but my first in over 2 years. This was during the Colombia National Beauty Pageant and Cartagena's "Independence" Day. I was in Cartagena during the same time period in 2009. Instead of doing an actual "trip report" in my previous fashion, I thought I would just give my observations.

First, IMO, CTG has changed for the worse. I remember when I was first reading the CTG forum 3 years ago, the true CTG vets at that time were lamenting how CTG had changed with increase in chica prices and poorer services than what they were accustomed to. However, my first time in CTG 2009, I loved it so much that I went there 3 times in that year. It was my favorite place to go. But, now it's my turn to remember the "good ole times" with my experience from this trip leading me to question if I would want to go back again any time soon, or ever. So, here goes:

- LDV; Girls much more hardcore, starting out asking for 250K and "negotiating' down to 200K, but very specific for 1 hour. Previous experience in 2009 was starting off at 150-200k, easily negotiating down to 120-130K for 2+ hours and with BBBJ included (a must for me). Also, drink prices in LDV significantly higher than what it was 3 years ago.

- ISIS: Still in Centro but a new location and now very upscale. Very hot girls. $250K for 1 hour (not on site, but nearby) , or 500K for TLN.

- ELECKTRA: Tried go in one night around 4am early in the week (closes at 5am) , but the door guy wanted to charge me 10K entrance fee. When the doors opened and I saw the place dead, I declined. Never went back.

- PLEYCLUB: 250K onsite, can negotiate to meet the girls next day for less. Too much plastic for my taste.

- Chicas Lindas (and several clubs in the same general area) : Ok girls, some gems seen if you look real hard. Can't remember all the 'in house" prices, but 80K multa to take out and then the price for the girl. If you go, be sure to check out the clubs around the corner (walk out of Chicas Lindas, turn left and walk through gas station parking lot; walk another 5 minutes or so and there are several more clubs on the left). Caters mostly to locals.

- Rosario House: First time in this place although it's been around for a long time and apparently caters to the sailors that come to CTG port. $75 USD onsite. Some gems, but high mileage kind of place.

- Centro (inside and outside of Tu Candela) : On the weekends, there were several girls hanging around just outside of Tu Candela, apparently not being allowed in. I recognized several from the above establishments hanging around on the benches. First girl I talked to wanted "200k for 1 hour" and I lost my interest. I'm not sure how the scene is during the week. There wasn't an entrance fee around 10pm when I entered, but I noticed that others were being charged an entrance fee around midnight, maybe earlier. (If you are a drinker and don't want to pay the 20K+/drink inside of Tu Candela, get the drinks for much less from the guy selling from the cart right outside of the club).

- Playa Hollywood: It used to be that I would see some girls on the beach I wouldn't see anywhere else in CTG, but this time, it was all girls that either worked at LDV or one of the other establishments, asking 200K."Tony Number 1" is still the same, but he got pissed at me because I wouldn't play is game anymore. Most of us that have been to Playa Hollywood in CTG have played into Tony's hand and eventually got smart. So here is what I've learned:

There is now a "bar' area in Playa Hollywood, with each vendor being their own business. There is a woman, an old guy, and a young guy that are setup on the right side of the bar. The old guy and the woman will charge you so that Tony gets his commission if they know he has served you before (and probably because of his pestering). The young guy (name is "Jugo") won't do that. Here are some examples of the price differences between getting your drinks from Jugo directly as opposed to Tony's mark ups: Aguila / Aguila Light- 2K vs 3k; Club Colombia- 3K vs 4K; Pina Coloda and Coco Loco (which the girls on the beach love and Tony "suggests").10K vs 15K. You can sit at the bar, or on the beach chairs with table and shade for free and not be harassed by people wanting you to buy things form them. Additionally, it is a better view IMO to scope the entire beach scene out. For food, if you buy from the lady directly behind this "bar', a plate is 10K vs 15K from Tony.

I was told by one of the beach girls, that if Tony "introduces" you to a girl, he will be expecting a commission of 30K (paid by the girl) so the chica has to factor this in to the price she agrees to. (If I remember correctly, in 2009 Tony's commission used to be 10-20K). As many others have already written, if you see a girl on the beach talk to her yourself. If Tony calls a girl for you, it's most likely just going to be a working girl that's not on the beach right then and if you don't like her, you will be asked to pay for the Taxi for her.

You can decide for yourselves if these price differences really matter, but as you can see, there are significant price differences in food, drinks, and chicas in Playa Hollywood if you use Tony.

-FABIO the Tour Guide: I met Fabio through a newbie that hired him and who I befriended in CTG. Fabio speaks excellent English and in his early 30's. He tries to have you hire him on a "per day" basis to be at your disposal. He will drive you around, introduce you to girls and can be your translator. Here are some facts to know about Fabio. First, he used to work for some marriage agency in CTG and has a list and pics of "girls" in his computer. However, he grossly exaggerated how hot the girls were. The girls were either of the type looking for a real relationship (and therefore would take some wining and dining to get laid) , or were just working girls from the casas that are frequented by the locals. In addition to whatever daily or hourly rate you agree upon, you may need to feed him (if you eat) , get him something to drink (if you drink, but mostly water) , pay any entrance fees, and most importantly, may have his commission tacked on to your final bill if he takes you to some strip clubs. In addition, I think he said he works as an English teacher during the day, so his availability may vary from day to day.

If you factor in all of the above, I think Fabio's true value would to be to someone who doesn't speak any Spanish and is a first time visitor to CTG and who would like someone to tour the outlying casas, going from one to the next without having to get a taxi. If you wanted to have him drive you the Barranquilla for a night, that can be negotiated with him.

So, in summary, Cartagena IMO has become much more expensive and hardcore than what I fondly remember from my past trips. Hopefully, the information I passed on above will be helpful to CTG newbies and subsequent trip reports from other CTG vets may give truer refection of CTG today.

[QUOTE=Bijou; 1354414]I went to CTG from Nov 5-11. This was my 5th trip to CTG, but my first in over 2 years. This was during the Colombia National Beauty Pageant and Cartagena's "Independence" Day. I was in Cartagena during the same time period in 2009. Instead of doing an actual "trip report" in my previous fashion, I thought I would just give my observations.

First, IMO, CTG has changed for the worse...

So, in summary, Cartagena IMO has become much more expensive and hardcore than what I fondly remember from my past trips. Hopefully, the information I passed on above will be helpful to CTG newbies and subsequent trip reports from other CTG vets may give truer refection of CTG today.[/QUOTE]Bijou, unfortunately, IMO your post is very, very accurate in re to the current scene. You nailed every single paragraph.

I'll be headed down to ctg in a couple of months with 10. 15 friends that are looking to get the full Cartagena experience. One problem I am running into is where to stay. Does anyone know of a very large house / mansion that can hold 10+ people and is located in the old city or bocagrande? We have a sizable budget, so it's more of finding a good house that includes a staff than a cost issue.

Otherwise, any recommendations for a large hotel that is centrally located and prepago friendly? Budget would probably be $200 per night per room for hotel. I've always stayed in apts for 2 or 3 people in ctg, so this is new territory for me. Any help is appreciated.

[QUOTE=Paracite; 1354431]I'll be headed down to ctg in a couple of months with 10. 15 friends that are looking to get the full Cartagena experience. One problem I am running into is where to stay. Does anyone know of a very large house / mansion that can hold 10+ people and is located in the old city or bocagrande? We have a sizable budget, so it's more of finding a good house that includes a staff than a cost issue.

Otherwise, any recommendations for a large hotel that is centrally located and prepago friendly? Budget would probably be $200 per night per room for hotel. I've always stayed in apts for 2 or 3 people in ctg, so this is new territory for me. Any help is appreciated.[/QUOTE]Paracite, I will try to get the info of a new reconstructed house in the old city not a lot of people know about, then I will post it here, Friends of mine from Ctg were telling me about it a while ago. I think I was told it has 7. 8 bedrooms

So, in summary, Cartagena IMO has become much more expensive and hardcore than what I fondly remember from my past trips. Hopefully, the information I passed on above will be helpful to CTG newbies and subsequent trip reports from other CTG vets may give truer refection of CTG today.[/QUOTE]Good report, I find Ctg a bit too expensive nowadays, I guess Tony's BS is over, I heard Jayson is the man on playa holliwood now to spot the prepagos chicas and for chairs, drinks or whatever have you, you can rely on Jairo.

[QUOTE=CartaAngel;1354542]So I guess Tony's BS is over, I heard Jayson is the man on Playa Hollywood now to spot the prepagos chicas and for chairs, drinks or whatever have you, you can rely on Jairo.[/QUOTE]With any "intermediary" on the Playa Hollywood scene, you can expect markups in the prices of the chicas, food, and drinks. If your are on this beach for the first time, it may be ok to go ahead and use someone, but you should know how you are paying for the "services" of these type of intermediaries. I will admit, that on my first trip in 2009, I was intimidated trying to talk to the girls on this beach (as opposed to to the bar / club scene) and used Tony the entire week I was there. Regarding the prepagos, any chica or group of chicas around Tony or Jayson (I don't know "Jairo") are going to be working girls and all these guys really would do is call the chica over from wherever they are sitting to sit by you so that they get commissions on the drinks, food, and chicas. There is nothing wrong with this as long as you know the game upfront. But, it's just as easy to walk over to a chica or group of chicas and just saying hello and offering a drink because they are are going to be working girls in that part of the beach. (Wouldn't consider all the girls to be be working girls outside of this area in Playa Hollywood).

Also, a little clarification (thanks to "Fabio" that I referenced before) : a "prepago" is a girl that will have sex for money once in a while (maybe the equivalent of an "escort"?) and has an other job or is a student and a "puta" is a girl that works in the casas and other high mileage establishments and its their "job" (the equivalent of a "prostitute"). I'm not sure what you would call the girls that come to CTG for a short period of time to work in LDV, Pleyclub, or ISIS, but then again, I wouldn't consider these to be high mileage places.

I was informed by my friends in Cartagena that a very popular jewelry shop next to LDV got robbed by 2 guys and a woman who passed themselves off as cops, this turned out to be a bad situation for the Cartagena police department which is losing credibility, check out this link from Cartagena's local newspaper [url]http://m.eluniversal.com.co/cartagena/sucesos/buscan-responsables-de-atraco-joyeria-100115[/url]

I don't post much, but appreciate the info here so wanted to contribute.

I don't like to waste money or flash it around like an idiot, but I am not really a budget monger. I respect the guys who are extremely frugal and ingenious at finding bargains. But I thought it might be useful to also post some info for guys who are ok spending more at times.

1. There has been discussion on this board about Fabio. I tried him. Many guys who post don't want or need a wingman. However, if you decide you do, you will satisfied with Fabio. He's a stand up guy and a professional who works hard to please and is honest. He will take you out for a night of drinking and show you around, he will perform concierge services like arranging excursions, he will make all your apartment arrangements and he will constantly show up with chicas as often as you want-2 times a day. 3 times a day; shape, color, size, age, whatever you want.

2. Spent first night out on the town. After a few drinks, hit the casas. Did a quick hit at one of the ST spots and then swung by Pleyclub, by now around 2 am, where I ordered carry out. A beautiful and very friendly 30-yr old from Cali. Very light skin. Claimed to be doing temporary work to pay for a medical procedure (nasal something). By far the oldest on the trip, but also easily the best GFE. She stayed until about noon the next day and was up for several rounds. This is very expensive. Can't remember exact amount so don't hold me to it, but I think the salida was around $250 (US). I tipped her separately at the end, which I think was optional. As much as I enjoyed, it was the last time I made it to the casa scene. Just too easy having Fabio show up with room service whenever needed. And far less expensive.

3. I also did an overnight trip to an island and stayed at the Majagua Resort. Took a companion. Also a very pricey activity. Overnight hotel, food, drink, boat transport: $350 (US) ish. It is good if you feel like getting away to some place isolated, quiet and different. Its a very small resort. At every meal, we saw all the other guests there. There was a large family gathering: mom and dad and about 4 couples of their kids in their 20's; one normal couple in their 30's; and 2 couples (of which I was part of one) with Anglo guy in his 50's and a Colombiana in her early 20's. Some might find that awkward.

4. I spent 2 days on the beach without companion. On the first I went to the famous Hollywood Beach and encountered Tony. As advised here I settled on 15k for cabana. On my first drink order Tony said,"Don't worry. Pay later." I said,"Here's some business advice. Never serve a drunk cocktails on credit." He laughed and said ok. So I paid every time rather than get into the drink count problem advised here. Every time I ordered a drink, he'd try some hustle. How about a drink for Tony? No tip? Bring your change later? Etc. But every time I'd counter to keep him from setting the terms. He was relentless in bringing girls by. Quite a variety and some very nice, but I declined. I did, however, have a lot of drinks so I'm sure Tony made out fine. As I was leaving I sat down with him and he poured a few drinks gratis from the end of his bottle of Medellin Rum and chatted it up. I enjoyed. The other beach day I spent on a different beach, and got a hustle similar to Tony's, but less aggressive. Drink prices the same. Was offered chicas but declined.

5. Other than a couple other excursions, I spent most of the time hanging at my apartment or nearby bars and restaurants with the chicas Fabio dropped off. All business is done directly with them. Typically they didn't ask or negotiate. Just took what I gave them when I sent them off, which was around $150k-$200k (COP) for ST, $250-$300k TLN depending on quality and amount of time spent. A couple did have specific demands up front which were too much, so we negotiated to an amicable agreement. Quality was unbelievable. Almost all were very enthusiastic about the work and eager to please.

If you get a chance to go, you'll enjoy!

Observing a few contrasts from my last extended stay 4 years ago.

First off I'll give myself a little intro being new to the Forum. I stayed in Cartagena for about 6 months back in 2008, then spent a lot of time in Asia and now I am finally back and plan to stay a year or so with a few side trips around south / central America.

I've only taken two trips into centro since arriving and I was shocked at a few obvious changes even though I haven't sampled anything so I might be speaking a little early. The biggest obvious change I see right now is a serious increase in quantity and quality of women specifically in the area around the clock tower entrance (Puerto Reloj?). Starting outside of the walls on the walkway opposite the clock tower gate with all the benches and a few fountains, had a steady flow of workers from just after dark until midnight when I was leaving, probably much later too. Just in front of the entrance they were just loitering, two days in a row, and just inside opposite Tu Candela on the benches where you drink the cheap street-vendor beers there were at least a Dozen or two, some easily in the 8-9 range and most were still well above average. Secondly, from my observations many of these girls seemed to be operating through pimps rather than touts but I could be wrong and more surprising I didn't witness any successful hook-ups, more like guys getting shut down but for sure these girls were pros and happy to fondled and chatted up even if you didn't buy them a cheap-on-the-street beer. After walking the city for an hour or so on both nights, getting lost and drunk trying to find Bananas and my other old favorites, I felt like the working girl presence is more than double what I was seeing back in 08' at least on the streets outside the bars. And the non-pros I've met in the streets in the last few days seem to be a lot more open to getting to know people. I got 2 phone numbers in 2 days with ZERO effort. Maybe its the season, maybe its because my Spanish is better this go-around, I certainly didn't get any younger or better looking!

I'll eventually start checking out the bars and reporting more and what kind of rock-bottom prices I get quoted even though it seems this whole area is well covered in this thread, well done guys. I might give a different perspective as I have always been a cheap charlie and basically never go over 100k / 50USD for a take home all-nighter, I walk more than I taxi, and drink / eat where it's cheapest most of the time, plus I usually end up with a normalish GF scenario as I am here semi-long term and there are plenty of these opportunities if you are here more than week and speak the most basic Spanish. Anyone wanting to hook up with girls other than regular pros, I'll share a little secret, Badoo is a very very good free website and as I can now see, well represented in Cartagena in addition to lot of other destinations. You could probably even have a GF with plan B and C on standby before you arrive (I did) if you want to save cash or have an option a little less mercenary than the bar / street girls.

Being new to the city all over again trying to feel out the 'scene' and not really knowing anyone yet I'm also very keen to hook up with any folks from the Forum for a drink / hang out and for anyone new visiting I could probably be a good wing-man with plenty of free time on my hands and having had several months scoping this place out albeit a few years ago, plus I speak a bit of Spanish (enough to easily translate a transaction and get around) , not to mention I've sworn off any paid full-service situations for myself for the next few months until my regular GF leaves town, even though I'm still interested in checking out the scene in the mean time.

As I get more connected with the scene in Centro where I do 90% of cruising I'll post any updates and anyone out there in Cartagena now or visiting in December please let me know!

Anyone have contact info for Fabio? Also looking to get a Sim Card for my blackberry when I'm in LAGuito next week. Anyone know where the nearest Place might be?

[QUOTE=Joey Smith;1355678]Anyone have contact info for Fabio? Also looking to get a Sim Card for my blackberry when I'm in LAGuito next week. Anyone know where the nearest Place might be?[/QUOTE]There is a tigo in Bocagrandre 5 minutes walk from hotel caribe

Once again drinking in clock tower Plaza next to 'Donde Fidel's' till the wee hours eye-balling the talent and buscars and tourists (a favorite pastime of mine). My report a few days back about plenty of "8's" in that area outside of Tu Candelas was either beer goggles or the scene changed a lot on Saturday, now I would say just enough quality to choose from, but nothing standing out. Just outside the city across the street from the clock-tower on the benches I was actually getting what might have been the $5 dollar skanks from the park walking up, grabbing my junk, and saying "you want fucky-fucky". I was trying to get prices but they wanted me to follow them somewhere for further discussion and I wasn't leaving my little bench. I don't ever remember anything like that when I was here 4 years ago. This is going on around midnight, when I was honestly going to walk home, but alas I had a few more drinks and chatted up some Colombian Tourists and by 4AM (or so not sure) I started following this mob to Elektra, however you spell it, its 2 blocks from the clock tower entrance on the map.

1) We all got frisked / searched on the way there by the policia (see note below)

2) At around 4am I didn't notice anyone paying a cover charge.

3) Again, plenty to choose from even as it got closer to 5am.

4) Beers were 10, 000 COP, this is painful for a cheap charlie.

5) One of the Colombian tourists I was with was getting quoted 100K by some average girls, I assume for ST and also assume that I the Gringo might hear a different number quoted to me but who knows.

After drinking outside most of the night before Elektra I was actually keen to dance a little but the girls there, as many as were approaching me would give me about 10 seconds of ass grinding and then ask if I want to fuck and any thing short of a yes resulted in a quick cold-shoulder. Not that I blame them I suppose but it really does seem to be all business these days.

I discovered a new scam as well. One of the low-life touts that tries to steer people in to Isis from the Clock-tower Plaza starts explaining to me that he has 'everything' which in Colombia if it isn't women it's probably a powdered stimulant, I quite often like to partake but this guy is way to shady and public so I say not now and oblige the hand shake before I walk off and he presses a small bag into my hand anyway that I didn't ask for and tells me I owe him 30, 000 COP! This guy was so shady / creepy / cracked out and with about 20 police standing around and I'm thinking no way but he won't take it back so I end up dropping it at his feet and walking away. I tell him I don't have any money so he will hopefully [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off and he just keeps telling me, OK, give me 20, 000, then 10, 000 and eventually down to 2, 000 (1usd) , all the while sort-of grabbing my arm to stop me from walking off, unbelievable, all this for a bag that has god knows what in it but for sure it's not legit at 2, 000 COP. He follows me for a while telling me I'm going to have a serious problem with his boss or whatever who I eventually met later and explained everything too which resulted in the lower-level tout getting a little reprimanding. If anyone has tips on less shady ways to score PM me as my old connections are long gone. A little off topic for the forum I know but I thought it was worth a mention, I never saw this one pulled before and was glad to end up clean in the end considering the police checked us all on the way to Elektra later.

[QUOTE=SailingWhorist;1356674]I discovered a new scam as well. this guy is way to shady and public so I say not now and oblige the hand shake before I walk off and he presses a small bag into my hand anyway that I didn't ask for and tells me I owe him[/QUOTE]Knuckle tap with fist closed. FYI. Never shake paw here.

[QUOTE=Joey Smith;1355678]Anyone have contact info for Fabio? Also looking to get a Sim Card for my blackberry when I'm in LAGuito next week. Anyone know where the nearest Place might be?[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.sexcation-review.com/Travel-SouthAmerica-Col-Cart.html[/url]

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I'm planning a Colombia trip but can't decide on which city. I rttf! But I'm still undecided. Medellin sounds good but I like to go to semi-pro night clubs. I read Cartagena asking $160 for TLN. I'm definetly not paying that! Help me out! Also I speak a little Spanish and definetly want an apartment. Having a beach like Sousa is a plus but not mandatory. So where is ground zero for chicas in Colombia? Or should I stick with Sousa and AC?

[QUOTE=HeadRack;1357212]I'm planning a Colombia trip but can't decide on which city. I rttf! But I'm still undecided. Medellin sounds good but I like to go to semi-pro night clubs. I read Cartagena asking $160 for TLN. I'm definetly not paying that! Help me out! Also I speak a little Spanish and definetly want an apartment. Having a beach like Sousa is a plus but not mandatory. So where is ground zero for chicas in Colombia? Or should I stick with Sousa and AC?[/QUOTE]From reading your post, and myself having been to both Sousa, and Colombia I think Sousa is a better bet as it has the better beach, and has good night clubs, and most important the Chica prices are way better in Sousa then say CTG. Also you will find that MDE has not much to do while a beach resort is much less boring. After all how much sexo can you take after a while.

[QUOTE=HeadRack;1357212]I'm planning a Colombia trip but can't decide on which city. I rttf! But I'm still undecided. Medellin sounds good but I like to go to semi-pro night clubs. I read Cartagena asking $160 for TLN. I'm definetly not paying that! Help me out! Also I speak a little Spanish and definetly want an apartment. Having a beach like Sousa is a plus but not mandatory. So where is ground zero for chicas in Colombia? Or should I stick with Sousa and AC?[/QUOTE]No matter how much we advise you to choose between Ctg, MDE and sousa the final decision is made by you, the one thing I can tell you though, is that if you take a chance and go to Ctg you will for sure have a good time, I know you will be another addicted gringo to Ctg city and all the honeys over there.

[QUOTE=Kelso1;1357267]From reading your post, and myself having been to both Sousa, and Colombia I think Sousa is a better bet as it has the better beach, and has good night clubs, and most important the Chica prices are way better in Sousa then say CTG. Also you will find that MDE has not much to do while a beach resort is much less boring. After all how much sexo can you take after a while.[/QUOTE]Yea, one of my friends just bought a new parasail boat and had in imported to Cartagena, not sure WTF he is doing with it personal use or business, he ain't much of a communicator unless he needs me to bring chew. LMAO But I know he bought a bunch of snorkels and fins and he is getting fishing gear rigged as well. If he is opening it up to boat excursions I will let you guys know when I find out for myself.

Gentlemen,

I'm planning a 30 days trip to CTG. They talk about high season or the beginning of December being good time for a visit etc.

How mongerable is it down there, say from mid-January onwards?

[QUOTE=Coronel; 1357547]Gentlemen,

I'm planning a 30 days trip to CTG. They talk about high season or the beginning of December being good time for a visit etc.

How mongerable is it down there, say from mid-January onwards?[/QUOTE]Mid January is a great time to visit CTG. Very mongerable if you pack enough cash. Chicas from all over Colombia with a possible shot at even non pros if your game is good.

Well this trip report took a lot longer than I anticipated. I just got back from the Dominican and will post a report but let start with this report. Flew Spirit out of Atlantic City. I know a lot of people don't prefer Spirit but I never have had a problem and the price isn't bad depending on when you book. I Got roundtrip with big front seats all the way around and my carry on bag for less then 625. 00 not bad in todays times. Grabbed a couple bottles of Baileys in Ft. Lauderdale and was on my way. Rented a nice apartment from Juan in Playa Mar building for 95. Per night. My friend had a driver pick me up at the airport which is always nice having someone there thats a familiar face. Thanks Again! Went straight to check in and then down to the beach stopping to listen to some of Tonys bullshit. Well I hit pay dirt this day their was a real sweetheart sitting in the Chairs! Her name was Isabella, light skinned 20 years old. Damn was she nice. I took her to lunch at cabon de palo and she said she worked at Chica linda but was working the beach this day. After lunch I took her to my apartment where I got her naked, great body nice BBBJ and sex in multiple positions. Really nice 150, 000 pesos. Worth well more. Spent all in all with lunch etc over 3 hours with her. Great time. Took a nice long sleep and hit the streets around 12 midnight. This night in my opinion LDV was loaded with plenty of nice looking women. I took a regular of mine named Cristina, I really like this girl. She is at best a 7. 5 in looks but I just really like her. Kept her the night with plenty of partying and sex sex sex. Woke around 10 and took her to breakfast and off she went.

I headed down to grab some alone time at Juan Valdez coffee shop and a great Cappucino. Then stopped at Bonys restaurante for a couple drinks. By now it was around 3 so I headed down to see what Tony had by his chairs. God was giving me nothing but luck this trip so far. Another 20 year old named Juanitta. I love these Colombian girls! Light skinned, no kids. A solid 8. 5 as by the way was Isabella, took this one to Requisimo and then more of the same in the apartment. Again my nap to around 10 pm.

This night I headed out to a little German restaurate / bar in Getsamani. Lot of nice people drinking and eating bratwurst and such. I like this plaace and there was also a band playing. After this I headed over to Fragma in the walled city where I just plain got lucky with a girl named Karlee. This one was a solid 10 not that I even care that much about that. She was with a girlfriend and for whatever reason really took a liking to me. We drank a bottle of Rum and I offered her 200, 000 and she said no problem at all. By the way this girl spoke great english which you probably know is rare. So this was great because my spanish sucks. This night couldn't get any bettter. Great BBBJ, sex, partying you name it we did it. She left in morning after breakfast. Fuck was she nice. Got her number and email. She was one of the great ones I've had. Class act.

To be continued

I was in CTG in March, I didn't enjoy it as much as I enjoyed the DR. The girls were to strict on that one hour shit, and I let Tony overcharge me! I"m soo ashamed! LOL. However, after 3 consecutive trips to the DR, (I'll be there again in DEc) I'm ready for a change. I may have to try CTG again, sin tony. Good report!

[QUOTE=You Can; 1357903]Well this trip report took a lot longer than I anticipated. I just got back from the Dominican and will post a report but let start with this report. Flew Spirit out of Atlantic City. I know a lot of people don't prefer Spirit but I never have had a problem and the price isn't bad depending on when you book. I Got roundtrip with big front seats all the way around and my carry on bag for less then 625. 00 not bad in todays times. Grabbed a couple bottles of Baileys in Ft. Lauderdale and was on my way. Rented a nice apartment from Juan in Playa Mar building for 95. Per night. My friend had a driver pick me up at the airport which is always nice having someone there thats a familiar face. Thanks Again! Went straight to check in and then down to the beach stopping to listen to some of Tonys bullshit. Well I hit pay dirt this day their was a real sweetheart sitting in the Chairs! Her name was Isabella, light skinned 20 years old. Damn was she nice. I took her to lunch at cabon de palo and she said she worked at Chica linda but was working the beach this day. After lunch I took her to my apartment where I got her naked, great body nice BBBJ and sex in multiple positions. Really nice 150, 000 pesos. Worth well more. Spent all in all with lunch etc over 3 hours with her. Great time. Took a nice long sleep and hit the streets around 12 midnight. This night in my opinion LDV was loaded with plenty of nice looking women. I took a regular of mine named Cristina, I really like this girl. She is at best a 7. 5 in looks but I just really like her. Kept her the night with plenty of partying and sex sex sex. Woke around 10 and took her to breakfast and off she went.

I headed down to grab some alone time at Juan Valdez coffee shop and a great Cappucino. Then stopped at Bonys restaurante for a couple drinks. By now it was around 3 so I headed down to see what Tony had by his chairs. God was giving me nothing but luck this trip so far. Another 20 year old named Juanitta. I love these Colombian girls! Light skinned, no kids. A solid 8. 5 as by the way was Isabella, took this one to Requisimo and then more of the same in the apartment. Again my nap to around 10 pm.

This night I headed out to a little German restaurate / bar in Getsamani. Lot of nice people drinking and eating bratwurst and such. I like this plaace and there was also a band playing. After this I headed over to Fragma in the walled city where I just plain got lucky with a girl named Karlee. This one was a solid 10 not that I even care that much about that. She was with a girlfriend and for whatever reason really took a liking to me. We drank a bottle of Rum and I offered her 200, 000 and she said no problem at all. By the way this girl spoke great english which you probably know is rare. So this was great because my spanish sucks. This night couldn't get any bettter. Great BBBJ, sex, partying you name it we did it. She left in morning after breakfast. Fuck was she nice. Got her number and email. She was one of the great ones I've had. Class act.

To be continued[/QUOTE]

i managed to get to cartagena last weekend. because that was the next port of call for the container vessel that picked us up. we were only there thirty hours, but it was long enough for a couple of us to get out looking for a decent bordello after dinner. i'd heard of a "casa rosario" from somewhere, and asked a cabbie; but he took us instead to a place called the 'casa rocio drill. '

the house looks like a house. it's in the bruselas district, at calle benjamin herrera no. 24-34, a 10k-peso trip out from the clock tower. decent enough place inside, with a long main room back of the foyer and the bar; there were maybe 10 girls there and a half-dozen or more clients, and three girls came in to give us a chance to buy them a drink when we sat down. one of them, emila if i recall correctly, was very much to my taste; slim and small-breasted with nice long legs and a face that reminded me of the young diana rigg (1960s vintage, emma peel of 'the avengers' tv series). i was willing to pay a premium for her.

the casa charged 50k pesos for the room, which was a decent room with fresh sheets on the bed and an attached bathroom. her fee was 150k, and i didn't demur.

aside from no dfk kissing. which i regret. this was a good gf experience for me. her figure is splendid; her tits, maybe a b cup in size, firm and youthful and no sign of them being bolt-ons. she might well be the most beautiful woman i've ever enjoyed in the sack, and she was gentle and thoughtful and well-skilled. the mouth and tongue work she denied to my mouth and tongue, she well played to my little man-tits and later to my cock. even though it was a cbj, she was skilled and capable and made it feel very good; after a while of mouth work, she mounted me and rode me cowgirl until i tried to turn her under me. and came in that process. afterward we talked and cuddled for a good while, then she gave me a very good back-rub including walking on my back. then more cuddling, till i decided it was time to gather up my shipmate and head back to the hotel for a few hours' sleep.

we didn't go to cartagena intentionally, but i enjoyed the place and i may go back on my own some day. but it's not the place i'd go for a monger's vacation. from what i hear, it would be better to spend a couple of days there as a straight tourist, maybe a 'casa' visit or two. then go up to medellin for the real cattin' around.

(ps: what brought me to cartagena? here's the full story: http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=70919)

Ok here is the rest of trip even though only the faces change. After Karlee left it is now Friday Morning. I went and had another cappacino at Juan Valdez, its really good so I had two. By the way the weather was great my entire trip. I was still thinking about Karlee she was so fun and spectacular in every way. After coffee (I think the coffee place name is actually Isabellas its like one block from Cabon de Palo. As a matter of fact its definitely Isabellas coffee shop. Oh well its not that important but great coffee. I go to carbon de palo a lot its pricey but good. I always forget the exact spelling but its caty corner to the Amertride hotel (SP) its good and I love getting a pitcher of Sangria at this place. I sit there for hours just watching the sites. Then headed over to Bonys again I like this place the owner is there often and is a former boxer. Great people and great business the guy really does a serious business. Great employees! After this it was like 4pm now and went and talked to Tony for awhile but he really had nothing there so I headed on back to my room with no chica. I made myself a drink and went down to sit on the little fountain area in front of my building. But no luck so by 5 or 6 headed up for nap empty handed which was fine by me. (Tony was saying earlier I will call someone for you, I said no) like I said I think I needed a little break so I took the nap. Woke up around 10:30 and went to walled city out side the hard rock bar sat out there watching the dancers and people watching. Then headed over to Cafe Delmar, by the way they have some sexy girls dancing here which is nice viewing. Dressed sexy. But nicely. Spotted a couple actually 3 girls sitting at a table and tried to make a little eye contact because wasnt sure what I was dealing with, couldn't get there attention so said what the fuck and told my waitress I wanted to by them a drink (which by the way are not cheap in this place but I really didn't travel couple thousand miles to be cheap.) Well thats all it took within 10 minutes they were all sitting with me, I honestly can't remember all three names but the girl that seemed to like me the best was Marianna 24 years old, said she had one kid. Very nice l00king girl, big round tits. Dressed very nice! A solid 8 After another round of drinks I was thinking how the fuck am I going to move to the next level with my fucked up spanish? I sure as fuck didn't want to take 3 girls to my room? I wasnt even sure if I was going to get the one (Marianna there) I wasnt even sure at this point if I should bring up money because I wasnt sure about this. So when they asked me where I was staying I said in Laguito in a aparmento, I said to Marianna would she like to come? She said sure! Well like I said my spanish sucks and it wasnt just Marianna coming it was all fucking three! I didn't want to say no no Just Marianna so I just went with it, I had plenty of party material, jut not to much liquor other than my baileys so I told driver to stop at Olypica where we went in and grabbed some beer and rum. Also a bottle of wine. Once we got back to the apartment they loved it and we had a blast. I finally asked Marianna if she was going to stay and she said sure. I said how much? She said it didn't matter (this is not the first time I have heard this and it can sometimes be a problem in the morning, but I said fuck it, I had a good feeling about this.) She said my friends go? I said unless they want to stay in my extra bedroom, its no problem! So by now it was like 5 am and they went in the adjacent room and I took Marianna in my room, showered great body, total GFE. Great night. Actually one of the best nights I ever hadd in Cartagena. In morning around 11 took them to Requismoo for lunch. This night was expensive between the drinks, party favors, olympica, lunch I spent some real fucking money this night! After lunch I took Marianna a side and out of view and handed her 200, 000 peso. She never looked at it and put it in her purse. Off they went, what a great night! Saturday I headed down to Bony and drank like a crazy fucker (I brought a bottle of Rum to beach and drank the whole fucking thing othere then what I gave away. Went back to apartment and passed out.

Woke around 12 midnight and headed to LDV feeling a little rufffffff and bought a bottle of rum and looked around. Plenty of talent! My girl Cristina walked in and was trying to go with me and I said no and she stormed out of the place she was pissed. But she will get happy again she likes me and I like her but I had differnt plans. Just sat around watching th scenery and ended up taken a girl named Maria a 6 at best but fun in the bed. I am not going to bullshit anyone this giirl is nothing real pretty but is fun. Took her for a couple hours to apartment and fucked her silly. Gave her 150, 000, I could definitely get this girl for 100, 000 but always give her 150, 000. She was more then happy she has one daughter 11 years old. Very nice person. She went on her way and I hit the sack.

Sunday my last day! I was beat the fuck up! Took it easy Sunday and couldn't help it, called Karlee and told her it was my last night did she want to come over later. Yes! Told her to just come to my apartment at midnight, this girl was so easy going. 12 phone rings she comes up and we never went out. She ordered some food from somewhere and it was all good. A great GFE and a great night. Breakfast with Karlee and off to the airport.

Another great trip, I love Cartagena and the women. Like I mentioned at the beginning of this report I just got back from the DR. I only went because my friends were going. In my opinion you just can't compare the night life and the women. Cartagena wins hands down especially if you don't mind putting some nice cloths on and being well groomed. I love the night life here. I will try to hit Cartagena again in February if funds permit. Happy traveling to all! Also Happy Holidays. I know I am not great at writing these reports but I do the best I can! Also my spelling sucks

[QUOTE=You Can;1358133]Another great trip, I love Cartagena and the women. Like I mentioned at the beginning of this report I just got back from the DR. I only went because my friends were going. In my opinion you just can't compare the night life and the women. Cartagena wins hands down especially if you don't mind putting some nice cloths on and being well groomed. I love the night life here. I will try to hit Cartagena again in February if funds permit. Happy traveling to all! Also Happy Holidays. I know I am not great at writing these reports but I do the best I can! Also my spelling sucks[/QUOTE]Great trip report, Thanks!

Upbeat and informative.

Almost makes me want to go back to Cartagena haha.

Maybe, tough to leave Medellin with all the contacts.

Happy holidays!

Quote from YouCan [drank like a crazy fucker (I brought a bottle of Rum to beach and drank the whole fucking thing othere then what I gave away. Went back to apartment and passed out.)

Without a doubt you are the man in CTG.

One day me and your good buddy from Denver will party again in CTG.

[QUOTE=You Can;1358133]Like I mentioned at the beginning of this report I just got back from the DR. I only went because my friends were going. In my opinion you just can't compare the night life and the women. Cartagena wins hands down especially if you don't mind putting some nice cloths on and being well groomed. I love the night life here. I will try to hit Cartagena again in February if funds permit. Happy traveling to all! Also Happy Holidays. I know I am not great at writing these reports but I do the best I can! Also my spelling sucks[/QUOTE]Would like to know why you didn't like DR. I was in Sousa for 30 days and I prefer it to Cartagena where the girls are too professionals and go way immediately after sex. Inside the LDV you cannot move around. The place is too small. For me better Sousa 10times.

Great trip report You Can. I was never able to figure out the Fragma scene, its hard to tell who may be working there and I just assumed they were all well off girls. Next time.

[QUOTE=Sebans;1358184]Would like to know why you didn't like DR. I was in Sousa for 30 days and I prefer it to Cartagena where the girls are too professionals and go way immediately after sex. Inside the LDV you cannot move around. The place is too small. For me better Sousa 10times.[/QUOTE]For me it comes down to the Colombianas being 10x hotter! Service is great and all but what good is it if you can't find anyone you like?

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1358140]Great trip report, Thanks!

Upbeat and informative.

Almost makes me want to go back to Cartagena haha.

Maybe, tough to leave Medellin with all the contacts.

Happy holidays![/QUOTE]My thoughts exactly! However, Cartagena can get so expensive! However, GFE goes up and prices go down if you make contacts. With the new cheap Viva flights, I might be doing a lot of back and forth!

[QUOTE=You Can; 1357903]Well this trip report took a lot longer than I anticipated. Grabbed a couple bottles of Baileys in Ft. Lauderdale and was on my way.

To be continued[/QUOTE]Great reports. Thanks. The tip about Baileys is a good one. These girls universally love Baileys and it is real handy anywhere in Colombia and not just in CTG.

[QUOTE=HeadRack;1357212]I'm planning a Colombia trip but can't decide on which city. I rttf! But I'm still undecided. Medellin sounds good but I like to go to semi-pro night clubs. I read Cartagena asking $160 for TLN. I'm definetly not paying that! Help me out! Also I speak a little Spanish and definetly want an apartment. Having a beach like Sousa is a plus but not mandatory. So where is ground zero for chicas in Colombia? Or should I stick with Sousa and AC?[/QUOTE]If you think $160 is expensive for TLN, then MDE is quite a bit more expensive than that (for a quality TLN). MDE is cheap only if you stick to casas during the day and try to do TLNs using contacts.

[QUOTE=You Can; 1358133]Ok here is the rest of trip even though only the faces change. After Karlee left it is now Friday Morning. I went and had another cappacino at Juan Valdez, its really good so I had two. By the way the weather was great my entire trip. I was still thinking about Karlee she was so fun...[/QUOTE]Thanks for the good report.

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1358515]My thoughts exactly! However, Cartagena can get so expensive! However, GFE goes up and prices go down if you make contacts. With the new cheap Viva flights, I might be doing a lot of back and forth![/QUOTE]Hioctane, I searched for Viva and found a couple of airlines but none that serve CTG (Two in Asia and one that serves Roatan). Is this a local Colombian airline or international? Do you have a link? Thank you.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1359850]Hioctane, I searched for Viva and found a couple of airlines but none that serve CTG (Two in Asia and one that serves Roatan). Is this a local Colombian airline or international? Do you have a link? Thank you.[/QUOTE]I have never flown with them.

-Helpmann :)

[url]http://www.vivacolombia.co/[/url]

[QUOTE=Helpmann; 1359852]I have never flown with them.

-Helpmann.

[url]http://www.vivacolombia.co/[/url][/QUOTE]That's the one. They are local. Supposed to be the Spirit of Colombia. They had a black Friday special. Free luggage upgrade and cut the line for under 80k. Roundtrip from BOG to MDE! That's about $45! Normally, luggage will double the price of the ticket and express is another 10k I think. I'll see how it is when I get back in January.

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1359944]That's the one. They are local. Supposed to be the Spirit of Colombia. They had a black Friday special. Free luggage upgrade and cut the line for under 80k. Roundtrip from BOG to MDE! That's about $45! Normally, luggage will double the price of the ticket and express is another 10k I think. I'll see how it is when I get back in January.[/QUOTE]They are the Spirit of Colombia in ways other than low prices also. Lousy service, cancelled flights, crappy seats etc. Then again, who cares if the flight is only 45 minutes long as most in country flights are very short.

For the most part you are going to pay around 100. 00us in Cartagena for TLN. But it can be more if the girl has no interest in being with you. It could easily be 200. Us These girls are nothing like the girls in the DR. If you dress nice, are you decent shape you will have no problem paying 100. 00 per night and personally if I didn't think a girl was worth a 100. 00 for the night I would not want to be with her. This past trip to Cartagena I saw more gringos and one guy was old and balding, total goofy looking bastard. All rinkled shorts and bo bo sneakers I saw at least 5 girls tell him no. He definitely needed to be in DR. I am glad these girls want more and arent afraid of saying no to a guy. The last thing I want is for Cartagena to turn into a Sosua. I don't think it will the girls are classier and definitely more expensive. I am glad because it will keep the rift raft out.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1358651]If you think $160 is expensive for TLN, then MDE is quite a bit more expensive than that (for a quality TLN). MDE is cheap only if you stick to casas during the day and try to do TLNs using contacts.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=You Can;1360955]This past trip to Cartagena I saw more gringos and one guy was old and balding, total goofy looking bastard. All rinkled shorts and bo bo sneakers I saw at least 5 girls tell him no. He definitely needed to be in DR. I am glad these girls want more and arent afraid of saying no to a guy. The last thing I want is for Cartagena to turn into a Sosua. I don't think it will the girls are classier and definitely more expensive. I am glad because it will keep the rift raft out.[/QUOTE]It is what I said during the Secret Service Scandal, Tony and them LDV putas will chew up and spit out a sucker all day long. Got friends that live there and they can't figure out why dudes don't come back because they all say they loved it, I say, because by the time they left they spent 5k and went home and cried. Just look at what Westy just did, didn't read the map or anything. I know some guys going down there shortly but they ain't listening to me, they better get a 401k loan. LMAO

I agree with that you can definitely go thru some money! Guys that do one trip a year and don't care about throwing money around are fine with it. But I try to do 5 or 6 trips a year, so I just don't throw money around that I don't have to. But not including airfair and my room. I like to have 500. 00 a day. Keep in mind I drink. Usually eat lunch and a late dinner. But I can easily spend 100. 00 on lunch with a chica and a pitcher of Sangria. Normally I usually do a light late dinner by myself before I hit the clubs usually about 50. 00 with a bottle of wine. I am well aware I can spend less. But these are things I like. At the club I always by a bottle of Rum, and share it with the girls. So money does go quick. You figure in a 100. 00 for the girl at night, and 50 to 60 for the day time girl, if I get one. Its always around 450 to 500. 00 per day for me. I can do DR for less then 200. 00 per day because its a whole different ballgame. So I am sure a guy that is use to the DR and ends up in Cartagena will definitely have sticker shock. .

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1361002]It is what I said during the Secret Service Scandal, Tony and them LDV putas will chew up and spit out a sucker all day long. Got friends that live there and they can't figure out why dudes don't come back because they all say they loved it, I say, because by the time they left they spent 5k and went home and cried. Just look at what Westy just did, didn't read the map or anything. I know some guys going down there shortly but they ain't listening to me, they better get a 401k loan. LMAO[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=You Can;1361011]I agree with that you can definitely go thru some money! Guys that do one trip a year and don't care about throwing money around are fine with it. But I try to do 5 or 6 trips a year, so I just don't throw money around that I don't have to. But not including airfair and my room. I like to have 500. 00 a day. Keep in mind I drink. Usually eat lunch and a late dinner. But I can easily spend 100. 00 on lunch with a chica and a pitcher of Sangria. Normally I usually do a light late dinner by myself before I hit the clubs usually about 50. 00 with a bottle of wine. I am well aware I can spend less. But these are things I like. At the club I always by a bottle of Rum, and share it with the girls. So money does go quick. You figure in a 100. 00 for the girl at night, and 50 to 60 for the day time girl, if I get one. Its always around 450 to 500. 00 per day for me. I can do DR for less then 200. 00 per day because its a whole different ballgame. So I am sure a guy that is use to the DR and ends up in Cartagena will definitely have sticker shock. .[/QUOTE]You do the night thing hard, I still haven't managed to figure out how to keep my eyes from twitching and glossed over from the beach all day, I look like death walking, I am bringing Visene the next time and we will see how that goes.

[QUOTE=You Can;1360955]For the most part you are going to pay around 100. 00us in Cartagena for TLN. But it can be more if the girl has no interest in being with you. It could easily be 200. Us These girls are nothing like the girls in the DR. If you dress nice, are you decent shape you will have no problem paying 100. 00 per night and personally if I didn't think a girl was worth a 100. 00 for the night I would not want to be with her. This past trip to Cartagena I saw more gringos and one guy was old and balding, total goofy looking bastard. All rinkled shorts and bo bo sneakers I saw at least 5 girls tell him no. He definitely needed to be in DR. I am glad these girls want more and arent afraid of saying no to a guy. The last thing I want is for Cartagena to turn into a Sosua. I don't think it will the girls are classier and definitely more expensive. I am glad because it will keep the rift raft out.[/QUOTE]Well stated in both posts. Though, I never paid less than $200 a night (total including multas if applicable) in CTG or MDE and I have no complaints. Compared to a lot of places in the world, For Price / Quality ratio CTG and MDE are still hard to beat for TLNs.

[Thanks, the other thing I wanted to touch on in the post about money and forgot was the exchange rate. I am not a financial guy but it seems like you really get hosed over on the exchange rate. When I started going down there I would get like 200, 000 peso or even a little more for a 100. 00 US now its way down. Like 170, 000 for the 100. 000 All them missed pesos really add up. Where as in DR I was getting 39. 5 this past trip a couple weeks ago which I thought was pretty good.

QUOTE=Vitrea; 1361044]Well stated in both posts. Though, I never paid less than $200 a night (total including multas if applicable) in CTG or MDE and I have no complaints. Compared to a lot of places in the world, For Price / Quality ratio CTG and MDE are still hard to beat for TLNs.[/QUOTE]

i was very tempted not to write this one up, since it is a little embarrassing but here it goes and if no one find's it educational maybe it can at least entertain.

so last friday night in centro around 11pm, seeing quite the selection once again around the clock tower, and outside the city wall all the way to the park. all types of quality and prices, something for everyone you might say and i've noticed the action here really changes day to day. my intention was to just have a few drinks and enjoy myself, no plans to hook up with a chica (or two as it turned out). so after meeting some interesting tourists and drinking a lot more than usual i was finally stumbling my way out of the old city when i sit down for a tinto thinking it might help me walk straighter. then two small darker (but not quite black) chicas approach me acting all sweet. now i've admitted before that i am a cheap charlie but since the beer vendor was right there and buying these two a drink was only going to set me back 5000 pesos i said what the hell, and then explained to them that they could get back to work whenever they want because i'm not playing tonight. now more on these girls, i have to admit, one was probably a 5 and the other a 4, at least that's the way i remember it, or maybe that 4 was a 3. the bodies were looking ok, it was mostly the faces dragging them down. persistent little buggers too, and i was told that if i didn't want fucky fucky i could just get a massage (w / happy ending). so one of them starts giving me a shoulder rub there on the street bench and she actually had good hands, go figure, and i'm starting to get a little worked up when the other one starts rubbing my thigh, probably mostly just for the thought of having two girls at once, and on it goes for a few minutes. now until this point i never understood why this street just outside the clock tower has so much chica traffic, turns out on the other end of that street there is a short-time hotel for 25, 000 cop per hour. there are enough girls standing in front of it you could easily mistake it for a prepago bar entrance. these chicas are generally but not always below the quality you find inside the old city. like some unspoken rule that if you are below a "5" you have to stay outside the walls. and i have seen the $5 dollar girls of the park in this area, sober, in the day time, which is just next door, and those girls are seriously rough, i don't think anyone on this forum would have a go with any of them even it was free, they are just plain scary. so back to my girls, they are a step above the 'park' girls but not quite centro quality, if that makes any sense, and i'm not thinking sex anyway, i'm thinking rub and tug with two chicks, plus i had some very nice experiences with some very average girls before. so they put it to me like this, an offer i couldn't refuse; 50, 000 cop each ($27usd) plus 25, 000 for the room, and if i just want a massage and hj then fine, but i could get whatever i wanted done for that price, i was too drunk or stupid to even negotiate and off we went just 50 meters over to the hotel. big room but not nice, not even a western shower but instead a giant garbage can full of water and a scoop (asian style). the massage gets started, and i can now see they aren't making the same effort they were outside, they just want to give me a quick hj and move on and i'm thinking more like bj and i know it's not uncommon but i can't remember a girl putting a condom on me just for a blow before, no big deal really as i was worked up enough at this point, but this is where things go down hill real fast, this is why drinking and just about anything can be a bad idea at times. so one girl is sucking on my nipple and fondling the balls (per my instructions) while the other one is doing the cbj and they both decide they want to get paid. nice timing right? so i tell them i'm not done yet and after enough negotiating to screw the moment up a bit they assure me they will finish the task at hand but would feel better knowing they are getting paid so like an ass i pay them in right then. quite annoyed and less excited than before i tell them to take there tops off and when the one told me her tits were not very nice and she wants to leave the bra on, well i should have listened to her, jesus talk about sloppy wrinkly droopy. the other girl was ok, just ok so i tried to focus on her. i've spent a lot of time in colombia and was never in situation quite like this before, but normally on a mongering night i'm more focused and i get what i actually want. sorry, back to the story, i tell the one girl (the one who isn't turning me off yet) to take off her shorts since she was complaining about the cbj and wanting to just do hj, and now that she has been paid its extra for fucky fucky, and she doesn't want to sucky skucky, hahahah i just laid there and laughed knowing how bad i screwed up. any attempts i made to explain that this wasnt the deal just resulted in my gear getting softer and softer so i decided to cut my losses and let her finish me with a combo of cbj and hj. we were in the room about 30 minutes. since i was heading home i had no desire to take a shower in there, the floor was dirty and i don't even remember seeing a towel. the girls are dressed with amazing speed and out the door of the room but the hotel guy won't let them leave unless all 3 of us walk out together and i'm taking my time dammit, you know tie my shoes take a leak, etc, hell we had 30 minutes left on the room, maybe i could actually get a massage. then the once sweet and almost charming duo get nasty and start yelling they want to go, but hell i'm not telling them they can't go, not that any of this last part matters. the points of the story are as we mostly know, paying in advance will always get you screwed (in one way or the other) , pun intended. a "5" and a "3" does not equal an 8, not in this case anyway. still for less than $70 usad including their drinks and the room, it was an interesting night so you can be cheap in cartagena but it might not be worth it.

on a side note, for the exact same money, i could have had one of several nicer looking girls inside the clock tower, many of those girls will do st for 100, 000 cop but most are asking 200, 000. one of the touts (that i previously mistook for a straight up pimp) said that he would even walk me through the girls and point out which once will go for 100k, even volunteered info that his cut would be 10, from the girl, for making the intro, so the girls out there are all freelance. he also volunteered that if we walked me to isis strip club, he would get 3000 for each 10, 000 beer i bought, and 25, 000 if i took a girl out, not bad i guess. how does he know he's getting paid?"it's all computerized and they pay us at least once a week", go figure.

[QUOTE=You Can;1361011]I agree with that you can definitely go thru some money! Guys that do one trip a year and don't care about throwing money around are fine with it. But I try to do 5 or 6 trips a year, so I just don't throw money around that I don't have to. But not including airfair and my room. I like to have 500. 00 a day. Keep in mind I drink. Usually eat lunch and a late dinner. But I can easily spend 100. 00 on lunch with a chica and a pitcher of Sangria. Normally I usually do a light late dinner by myself before I hit the clubs usually about 50. 00 with a bottle of wine. I am well aware I can spend less. But these are things I like. At the club I always by a bottle of Rum, and share it with the girls. So money does go quick. You figure in a 100. 00 for the girl at night, and 50 to 60 for the day time girl, if I get one. Its always around 450 to 500. 00 per day for me. I can do DR for less then 200. 00 per day because its a whole different ballgame. So I am sure a guy that is use to the DR and ends up in Cartagena will definitely have sticker shock. .[/QUOTE]It depends on where you go in DR. Are you talking about Sosua that you can spend 200 / day? Pretty much anywhere else in DR you are guaranteed to spend a lot more. In Sosua, you are limited to what is available. In Colombia, there are 5 star restaurants and there are 1 star. There is something for everyone. For an even comparison, you have to compare what you are getting.

[i] (All reports have been written some days after the trip, which took place one week ago) [/i]

I arrive to CTG from Bogota in the evening. Yesterday, I had my fun in Santa Fe exploring most seedy bars and alleys. I like adventure. Here, I intend to change totally approach. WOW! It's one year I miss this dream of a city! I cannot wait.

BUT, my last trip was to Batam (see reports there, if you want to read something amazing
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2020-Links-to-Reports-of-Distinction&p=1344045&viewfull=1#post1344045[/URL]
). My mind is still focused on Asia, on the incredible GFE which can be got there, but especially on the extraordinary experiences and luck I got there.

On my first night in Cartagena, I feel "out of focus". When your mind is wrong, anything looks wrong and difficult. This is the chronicle of a wasted night. (Except for the fact that Cartagena is a wonderful place. I missed it for a whole year!).

Dinner at Juan Del Mar, San Diego. This restaurant is overrated. The music is too loud and frankly annoying. The recipes are always the same, since many years. I got bored, even if I missed eating here for all the past year.

A drink at Juan Del Mar. I notice a couple of girls who look prepagos, but I refrain from seeking eye contact. I expect to see something better later. A sexy girl on high heels walks around like on a stage, sits down and waives to me. I make a bet with myself: "She is from Medellin". I go to ask, and she is!

Two hours at Fragma. This is a nice disco. The problem is that most people there are friends and couples, girls are not prepagos. I am not tuned yet on the place. I cannot find my way. Girls are outrageously sexy, but guys too. I consider myself somehow handsome, but with my 45y I cannot compete with young boys dressed as photomodels! In Batam, I am used to attract the attention of all girls. Almost any sexy girl is not out of reach for me. Here, sorry, NO.

I spot a couple of girls, with their boyfriends, who look frankly astonishing. I don't remember any girl on the TV of my country who is so sexy. Colombia is really the Empyrean of the female beauty.

Quite depressed, I move to Tu Candela. Here I grab a sexy mulata and after a couple of drinks we go to my hotel room.

My wrong mood, being away from here a solid year, and lack of good luck make me cumulate a number of mistakes. She is not bad, but:
- we agree 200k.
- we stop on the way to buy 3 beers for her and a soda for me (why 3?)
- we have some good fun (nothing to complain about)
- after it, she says she cannot stay because she is to drunk and feels tired (now I understand why 3: they are for friends at home)
- my rule is never insist to make a girl to stay if she is not happy (where's the fun to have a deadfish in the bed?) , so I am happy to see her leaving.

Conclusion: at 6am I start sleeping hoping in a better future for my next 3 days here.

Wake up in morning and LONG walk along the beach in Bocagrande. I have a beer with Tony, [i]just because I like to see and listen the real solid one[/i], after having just read about him for the whole past year. He cannot imagine why I accept his beer (my entertainment). I limit the damage to 5k for the beer and a chair. I leave after a while, saying I'll check girls later.

Mojarra frita at Dona Marciana on the beach. Hmmm how much I missed this!

Afternoon. No more time to waste. I give a call to my trusted lady.

She runs a business at her house in Alcibia, as I reported many times on ISG in my past reports. This house is known to SOME taxi drivers, but not to all. The house is small and rather poor. The room itself dedicated to the business is "essential" at best (fan, pipe shower, hard bed, no window). The family is made of the lady, the husband, the son and the LOVELY daughter, who is now 15yo and began to be sexy and pretty 2-3 years ago already (I know what you dirty men are thinking: forget it. SHE DOES NOT WORK, she is the DAUGHTER and she is treasured and kept away from any dirty business. She is very nice and she likes to talk with me (with family).
When I go there, there are always 2-3 fat or mid-size girls (doable, but I am not in CTG for this) sitting in the courtyard waiting for "guests". I am not interested to that.

I go there because the lady can call some other girl, who is out of the business and can do this at times, only with selected people to get some extra cash. Do I believe this story? At times no, but at times YES. I met a couple of real young GEMS here, shy and not used to meet foreigners.
(Sometimes I was also introduced to sleazy girls who looked well acquainted to this kind of job, but uncertainty makes the story more thrilling)

So, quick phone call. She says "yes I can call one special for you". I must explain the way to the taxi driver because he seems not understanding the direction.

The girl is young and pretty, and also hot and good as a porn star in doing it! It's frankly an excellent experience. (I agreed 100k with her, assuming that from locals the girls working there may receive something on the order of 50k, and of course I gave a significant tip to the lady for the room and the nice service of introducing me to the girl).

After the deed, chat with family, one more beer, and I go back to El Centro using my feet instead of taking a taxi. It's about one hour walking. I stop at Bazurto to buy some pirate DVD with reggaeton. I will listen to it during the cold winter at home.

Dinner at Santisimo, San Diego. This is an excellent restaurant, which I recommend.

Drinks at Café del Mar, Tu Candela, strolling, chats with girls loitering in front of Tu Candela and outside. By the way, I don't remember I ever saw so many girls here outdoor! What happened? They are not skanks. Many of them move to Elektra at 3am, but do not want to enter Tu Candela because of the cover (10k cover for men. 20k cover for girls: the world seems reversed here).

Being the second day, I start to be more used to see so many sexy girls around. It's amazing. In my country, I would see 2-3 such girls maybe in a year. Here, they are dozens and all around. I know you know the feeling.

At Elektra, I see THE GIRL. Young, pretty, smiling as a doll. She dresses cheap (she might have been one of those in the street earlier) , but she is the one I like. Emily, from Medellin.

She says she is 19, but once in my hotel I find that she does not have the cedula. She says she has it at home. She is not allowed to enter, even if she looks old enough.

Fortunately, la Jaiba is the resource in these cases. Emily is a dream girl! She is hot as hell, sweet at the same time, willing to try anything.

I accompany her back to her hotel / room at 7am. I plan to be with her also in the day, but her phone will be off for 2 days. She will call me only 2 days later, when I will be at Puente Aereo in Bogota.

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1361492]Afternoon. No more time to waste. I give a call to my trusted lady.

She runs a business at her house in Alcibia, as I reported many times on ISG in my past reports. This house is known to SOME taxi drivers, but not to all.[/QUOTE]Good reports as usual. You don't have PM so I am asking here. Can I get the phone number for your "trusted lady"? I might get a chance soon to help her family out as well. Thank you.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1361510]Good reports as usual. You don't have PM so I am asking here. Can I get the phone number for your "trusted lady"? I might get a chance soon to help her family out as well. Thank you.[/QUOTE]Of course I have PM! I am a more-than-senior member.

(But she is not a lady to help. I am sure she makes a lot of money with her business. It's not an official "casa", but the place is well established since many years. She even printed business cards LOL)

(About the place, sorry to ask. The place is not bad, but I never saw any "gringo-looking" man walking around Bazurto. I would not recommend the average reader of this forum to dare it)

In the morning I feel tired. I have some good reason for that. Thus, I spend my day between the beach and the Centro, strolling around and relaxing.

At night, again the same routine: dinner (Quebracho) , Cafè del Mar, Tu Candela, Elektra. I cannot find Emily, but the number of incredible sexy girls is so overwhelming that it would be really insane to miss anyone too long here.

My strategy to delay and delay my choice today pays off! As soon as I enter Elektra, I spot an incredible mulata, very slim and tall more than 1. 80 m (including the high heels). She looks a model. Really different from anyone else here! Fantastic smile, fantastic body. No one better to have a drink with!

Girls here are really fun. When there is the right feeling, one can really have a night which cannot be forgotten. And so we had!

At 5am, we leave and go with her two friends to Europa, a new 24h disco close to India Catalina, not far from Elektra. We have one more drink, but we are alone there. The place seems to be not popular enough.

At 6am, we leave her friends and we go to my room. Another incredible experience! I point out that we never mentioned money, discussed amount, etc. She is hot as a porn star, and stunning like a TV model. It's difficult to be with a girl who has just ONE of the two features, incredibly I've got both. After one hour of steamy sex, in which she tells me she misses her friend and she looks forward to have a trio the day after with me and her ("I am not lesbian, but I like to have fun.") , she sleeps like an angel. I manage to kick her out of the bed at 11am. (and no money still discussed)

She wants to eat, but I counteroffer: first coffee at Juan Valdez, then she goes back home to pick up her friend, she comes back with her, and we go to La Boquilla for the beach and eating.

Till now, she looks like my new girlfriend, but I know she cannot be. So, when I put her on a taxi, to avoid being asked, I also give her discretely 200k "for the taxi and her expenses".

When they come back it's 2pm. They say they don't have a bikini and ask if I can buy a new one for them. Sure, let's go! (shit, I know shops in Bocagrande are damn expensive!). We spend one hour choosing the bikini they like and visiting various shops. Finally, they choose: the bill is 250k for the two. If I want to be a cheap Charlie, Cartagena is not the place to play the game. So, I keep on going.

And there we go! Fantastic afternoon on the beach at la Boquilla. It's nice swimming with the two, although a bit embarrassing when she tells me "ahora te chupo la poya" and there is people swimming around. My hands roam around both. It's a nice way to spend an afternoon at the beach.

We eat something at Blas and we go back to my hotel. And here the PROBLEM!

The girl at reception refuses them to enter my room, because my room is for two. I offer to pay the additional bed, but she tells me "the guy who can do that is not here". She clearly was instructed to not allow girls of "dubious morality" to the premises. I need to find a better accommodation for my next time in CTG.

They go back home, and we plan to meet later. But the magic is broken. I meet only my girl at midnight and she is alone. The friend did not come because she was tired. She too does not look so friendly as in the day. Once chemistry is broken, is wrong to insist. I say bye and I head to Tu Candela.

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1361516]Of course I have PM! I am a more-than-senior member.

(But she is not a lady to help. I am sure she makes a lot of money with her business. It's not an official "casa", but the place is well established since many years. She even printed business cards LOL)

(About the place, sorry to ask. The place is not bad, but I never saw any "gringo-looking" man walking around Bazurto. I would not recommend the average reader of this forum to dare it) [/QUOTE]Sorry dude. I know you are senior and I love your reports from other countries as well. It is working now and I sent you one. Our PMs must have crossed (smile).

An hour ago, when I clicked on your name and it did not give me a PM option. Now it does. May be a brief glitch in the system? Have others ever experience this before? It is all good now.

In Tu Candela, there is the usual crowd and quite a lot of sexy girls, but ONE immediately captures my attention: elegant, classy, haughty even, with an elegant hairstyle reminding me the '40s.

I decide she is MY girl of tonight. After 2 hours of drinks and chats, we move to my room. She clearly points out:"Yo covro 200k". I don't want to discuss.

Well, after the two past nights, I've become overdemanding and hypercritic, so this lovely girl actually leaves me cold at last, but I cannot complain.

She is an intelligent lady. She is 25+ and she has a child. She studies and she uses the money to pay her expenses here, her university course, sustain the kid at home.

She claims to need to leave at 6am because she has classes at 8am to attend. In my bed, she refuses to do any oral without condom because she does not like it, simply (but she likes a lot to receive it!). She is quite simple and traditional in sex. She does not have a technique, but she is quite spontaneous. I think I am having a normal classy lady and not a pornstar in my bed, finally, so I am not disappointed.

In spite of her early plans, she sleeps like an angel till 9am, when I awake her up. I decide to not try to have an additional session, in order to avoid the embarrassment of a discussion (will she ask more money?) , because I still feel tired of all sex of these days, and because I have an idea for today.

This is my last day. I have my flight from CTG at 2pm. It's 10 am now. Time to rush and be straight to the point.

Phone call to my lady in Alcibia, appointment for 11am, two double espresso at Juan Valdez, taxi ride, at 11:10am the sight of a sweet young shy smiling mulatita enlightens me and makes my day.

No time now for details, but she was really misplaced. She told me that she was convinced to do it only because I am a nice good man.

Conclusion: always behave well, and you'll be rewarded.

The girl was extremely shy. What a pity to not have more than one hour to spend there. At 12:30 I kiss the lady on the cheek, I rush out of the house and I run chasing a taxi to go back. Not much time left to close my luggage and rush to the airport.

Has anyone been to Bar Los Angeles in El Bosque recently? Is Carolina (TINY spinner from Medellin area) back there now? Any info would be appreciated, thanks

You guys definitely live up to the best Cartagena Monger board thread, not bad!

Blackpage you call Las Americas La Playa La Bosque?

Sailing Whorist says Queens has been closed for a while, must be why I couldn't locate it on a Sept walk.

Isis is where Bannanas used to be near Plaza Estudiante I changed the Map accordingly and may move the Clock tower action up on the Map as well it seems the action at night there is picking up.

I have got to buy a ticket next couple days your reports got my head spinning. LMAO

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1361899]You guys definitely live up to the best Cartagena Monger board thread, not bad!

Blackpage you call Las Americas La Playa La Bosque?

Sailing Whorist says Queens has been closed for a while, must be why I couldn't locate it on a Sept walk.

Isis is where Bannanas used to be near Plaza Estudiante I changed the Map accordingly and may move the Clock tower action up on the Map as well it seems the action at night there is picking up.

I have got to buy a ticket next couple days your reports got my head spinning. LMAO[/QUOTE]Eheh, I like the idea to tantalize old regs.

Sorry, I do not understand your question "you call Las Americas La Playa La Bosque?"

In my report, I mentioned la Boquilla, which is the beach a bit after the airport. You can see airplanes taking off closely.

I forgot to mention a very important thing: in 5 days and 4 nights, I NEVER went to Isis or LDV RLMAO.

[QUOTE=Black Page;1361903]I forgot to mention a very important thing: in 5 days and 4 nights, I NEVER went to Isis or LDV RLMAO.[/QUOTE]I ain't been to either in 6 of my last trips.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1361906]I ain't been to either in 6 of my last trips.[/QUOTE]We need to go out together for a beer definitely. Too bad I go to CTG not more often than once a year.

[QUOTE=Black Page;1361913]We need to go out together for a beer definitely. Too bad I go to CTG not more often than once a year.[/QUOTE]BP, can you recommedn a chica friendly hotel in Cartagena?

[QUOTE=SailingWhorist; 1361381]I was very tempted not to write this one up, since it is a little embarrassing but here it goes and if no one find's it educational maybe it can at least entertain.

On a side note, for the exact same money, I Could have had one of several nicer looking girls inside the clock tower, many of those girls will do ST for 100, 000 COP but most are ASKING 200, 000. One of the touts (that I previously mistook for a straight up pimp) said that he would even walk me through the girls and point out which once will go for 100k, even volunteered info that his cut would be 10, from the girl, for making the intro, so the girls out there are all freelance. He also volunteered that if we walked me to ISIS strip club, he would get 3000 for each 10, 000 beer I bought, and 25, 000 if I took a girl out, not bad I guess. How does he know he's getting paid?"It's all computerized and they pay us at least once a week", go figure.[/QUOTE]In Sept 2010 (only 2+ years ago, but I feel it as ages ago if I read my old reports) , I had a similar adventure at Reloy, but with totally different satisfaction. I found my old report (posted later on 2011).

That time, I had the chance to meet a tall black girl walking around the Reloy (And she is still there! We always chat when we meet and I offer her a beer.)

She was with a blond young pregnant girl (5th month, rather big belly) , who is not working anymore (she is now attending her bebito). I started to talk and finally I invited them to eat something at the fast food in the plaza. I had a very nice time with them. They are honest girls (I am not ironic) and I enjoyed so much eating with them that I accepted to go with them in a room of a hotel nearby (Puerta del Sol). I was asked 300k first (by the black girl, very skilful, while the blonde was newer to the game) , but we settled for 200k.

I know it's pricey, but I had less experience than today, and how could I miss the opportunity to play 3-some with a panther-body black girl and a preggy blondie? Not going to LDV, sure. And it was a rewarding experience indeed! (no, I don't give out details).

[QUOTE=Love Handler;1362211]BP, can you recommedn a chica friendly hotel in Cartagena?[/QUOTE]I have the same question for regulars here. Next time, I want to stay in a good place, but having no problems if I want to take a couple of friends to my room (without making noise or causing problems) like it happened this time.
This is my contribution about ST hotels (not what you are asking for, probably) , from my past reports all linked from the RoD section.

EL CENTRO
There are various decent hotels nearby Reloy, which will rent you a clean room for 15k / hour. One I tried various times is Sol de las Indias 1 block from Elektra. I think it's the best option if you are there and don't want to go far.

OUTSIDE EL CENTRO
The place where to go, if you have a good chica but you cannot take her to your room, is a motel specialized for this business. There, you will relax in a good environment, at any time 24h / 24h, for a very cheap rate, without worrying about your stuff or what the personnel of your hotel may say.

- JAIBA (pronounce: "haiva") , a motel in a barrio just after Crespo (the way from El Centro to the airport, at right) .5-10 minutes by taxi from the Clock Square (Reloy).
Rooms from small and cheap to luxury suites. Cost is about 14k or 20k (2008 price) per 2 hours minimum (YES. 7-10 USD!). Time is counted automatically, so you can stay all time you want. Different types of rooms are available. Usually, they take you to the cheapest available, unless you don't ask differently.
You arrive by taxi, the car enters the slot, you walk up and nobody sees you. At the end, you call the bill by phone and it is delivered on a small window in 5 minutes. The rooms of medium quality are large, very clean, with glass shower box, well furnished, even a "sex chair" for trying multiple positions (see it to believe). It is a deluxe environment, with privacy guarantee, even drinks and food available "a la orden".

- CANGREJO. On the same street of Jaiba, cheaper and less beatiful. I did not try it. Maybe if Jaiba is full.

- DUNES. Not far from Jaiba, in a near barrio. Deluxe accommodation, better quality than Jaiba, more expensive, but still very cheap for the service provided: 28k for min 2 hours (2007 price)!
Standard price to go there by taxi: 10k$ from El Centro (15k$ from Bocagrande) , max 12k at late night. Ask before leaving, so you will be not overcharged. Leave 2000$ tip. I was asked also 15k from El Centro. It depends how you look and how greedy is the driver (and how willing you are to be overcharged).
A bit more the price to go back (15k). The motel will call you a taxi to return.

Don't worry to get lost: just ask the taxi driver "haiva" or "dunes". They ALL KNOW THEM. All girls also know these places. So, you may let her to talk to the driver, if you don't feel confident. The place is SAFE, clean and well attended.

[QUOTE=Love Handler;1362211]BP, can you recommedn a chica friendly hotel in Cartagena?[/QUOTE]I would recommend the Lee Hotel if you want a good Hotel at a reasonable price. Message me and I'll give you the owners name and info.

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1362227]I have the same question for regulars here. Next time, I want to stay in a good place, but having no problems if I want to take a couple of friends to my room (without making noise or causing problems) like it happened this time.

This is my contribution about ST hotels (not what you are asking for, probably) , from my past reports all linked from the RoD section.

EL CENTRO.

There are various decent hotels nearby Reloy, which will rent you a clean room for 15k / hour. One I tried various times is Sol de las Indias 1 block from Elektra. I think it's the best option if you are there and don't want to go far.

OUTSIDE EL CENTRO.

The place where to go, if you have a good chica but you cannot take her to your room, is a motel specialized for this business. There, you will relax in a good environment, at any time 24h / 24h, for a very cheap rate, without worrying about your stuff or what the personnel of your hotel may say.

- JAIBA (pronounce: "haiva") , a motel in a barrio just after Crespo (the way from El Centro to the airport, at right).5-10 minutes by taxi from the Clock Square (Reloy).

Rooms from small and cheap to luxury suites. Cost is about 14k or 20k (2008 price) per 2 hours minimum (YES. 7-10 USD!). Time is counted automatically, so you can stay all time you want. Different types of rooms are available. Usually, they take you to the cheapest available, unless you don't ask differently.

You arrive by taxi, the car enters the slot, you walk up and nobody sees you. At the end, you call the bill by phone and it is delivered on a small window in 5 minutes. The rooms of medium quality are large, very clean, with glass shower box, well furnished, even a "sex chair" for trying multiple positions (see it to believe). It is a deluxe environment, with privacy guarantee, even drinks and food available "a la orden".

- CANGREJO. On the same street of Jaiba, cheaper and less beatiful. I did not try it. Maybe if Jaiba is full.

- DUNES. Not far from Jaiba, in a near barrio. Deluxe accommodation, better quality than Jaiba, more expensive, but still very cheap for the service provided: 28k for min 2 hours (2007 price)!

Standard price to go there by taxi: 10k$ from El Centro (15k$ from Bocagrande) , max 12k at late night. Ask before leaving, so you will be not overcharged. Leave 2000$ tip. I was asked also 15k from El Centro. It depends how you look and how greedy is the driver (and how willing you are to be overcharged).

A bit more the price to go back (15k). The motel will call you a taxi to return.

Don't worry to get lost: just ask the taxi driver "haiva" or "dunes". They ALL KNOW THEM. All girls also know these places. So, you may let her to talk to the driver, if you don't feel confident. The place is SAFE, clean and well attended.[/QUOTE]Those rates are 6-7 years ago! I'd be curious to know what the rates are today. BTW, I think they also have an overnight rate during the week.

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1362449]Those rates are 6-7 years ago! I'd be curious to know what the rates are today. BTW, I think they also have an overnight rate during the week.[/QUOTE]I apologize. I copied the text without checking the numbers, but I am able to give the correct rates in some cases (personally checked 2 weeks ago.).

SOL DE LAS INDIAS
15k / hour was the rate ONE year ago. I did not try this year.

JAIBA, Crespo
I don't have the exact numbers of my stay of 2 weeks ago, but the total I paid was something on the order of 30k for 1 hour and half, maybe.
Standard price to go there by taxi: 15k$ from El Centro at night (I wrote 10k 5 years ago). It depends how you look and how greedy is the driver (and how willing you are to be overcharged). Take the phone number of the driver who takes you there, to call him back and agree the same price to return, to avoid to be overcharged by some other called by the reception.

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1362449]Those rates are 6-7 years ago! I'd be curious to know what the rates are today. BTW, I think they also have an overnight rate during the week.[/QUOTE]The Las Dunas rates updated as of 7/31/12 on the Cartagena Lists thread.

Has anyone seen or been with this girl, Rosa Maria Perez, lives in Cartagena en El Centro. 23-25 yrs old, cute, fun, like to dance / party. Trying to see if she is a working girl, any feedback greatly appreciated.

High season is coming up, in ctg, new women arriving for vacations from all over Colombia.

And abroad. Crowded beaches and a few new bars in centro. Hot weather as well, anyone need more infor contact me using the private message system.

Regards,

Nicolas11

[QUOTE=Nicolas11; 1363408]High season is coming up, in ctg, new women arriving for vacations from all over Colombia.

And abroad. Crowded beaches and a few new bars in centro. Hot weather as well, anyone need more infor contact me using the private message system.

Regards,

Nicolas11[/QUOTE]:/

Judging on the amount of info you have provided in your previous posts in ISG, I'd suggest the opposite: if you need any more hints on CTG, try to contact any of the senior members here. We will be happy to help :-D

[QUOTE=RobertSmith;1363393]Has anyone seen or been with this girl, Rosa Maria Perez, lives in Cartagena en El Centro. 23-25 yrs old, cute, fun, like to dance / party. Trying to see if she is a working girl, any feedback greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Again?
You asked the same a few times already 6 months ago in July! Are you stalking her??

I cannot find better words to reply than quoting another member who replied your same question in July:

[i] No Idea!
But I've seen enough pictures of her. No disrespect but I doubt she's playing too many if she is at all. One mans trash is anothers treasure though. Good luck. [/i]

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1362620]I apologize. I copied the text without checking the numbers, but I am able to give the correct rates in some cases (personally checked 2 weeks ago.).

SOL DE LAS INDIAS.

15k / hour was the rate ONE year ago. I did not try this year.

JAIBA, Crespo.

I don't have the exact numbers of my stay of 2 weeks ago, but the total I paid was something on the order of 30k for 1 hour and half, maybe.

Standard price to go there by taxi: 15k$ from El Centro at night (I wrote 10k 5 years ago). It depends how you look and how greedy is the driver (and how willing you are to be overcharged). Take the phone number of the driver who takes you there, to call him back and agree the same price to return, to avoid to be overcharged by some other called by the reception.[/QUOTE]I think 15k would be too much, if it matters to anybody. Usually at that point you have other more important things on your mind, and the cabbies know it.

[QUOTE=TheShadow2;1364090]I think 15k would be too much, if it matters to anybody. Usually at that point you have other more important things on your mind, and the cabbies know it.[/QUOTE]LOL!

Good point, but let me point out that the standard regulated price from the airport to Bocagrande or Centro (the one printed on the voucher at the taxi boot) is 17k. Therefore, if a driver asks 15k from Centro / Bocagrande to la Jaiva, which is right after the airport, it does not sound too much to me. Anyway, it really sounds bad taste to me negotiating with the driver for 2k less, when he knows you are going to give AT LEAST 100k to the girl, and you spent maybe the same on drinks in the past 2 hours.

Pre-Pago or Normal girl? Anyone seen this 24 yrs old, young, cute, Rosa Maria Perez from Cartagena, usually hangs out in El Centro. Loves to dance and party. Trying to find out if she is a Pre-Pago (working girl) or Normal girl, any feedback appreciated thank you.

[QUOTE=RobertSmith;1364452]Pre-Pago or Normal girl? Anyone seen this 24 yrs old, young, cute, Rosa Maria Perez from Cartagena, usually hangs out in El Centro. Loves to dance and party. Trying to find out if she is a Pre-Pago (working girl) or Normal girl, any feedback appreciated thank you.[/QUOTE]Oh Shit you started over again! :-(

You asked the same a few times already 6 months ago in July! Now you start again. Is this a joke or what?
Name her as you wish, but "cute" is sincerely inappropriate. I cannot find better words to reply than quoting another member who replied your same question in July:
[I] "I've seen enough pictures of her. No disrespect but I doubt she's playing too many if she is at all. One mans trash is anothers treasure though."[/i]

[QUOTE=RobertSmith;1364452]Pre-Pago or Normal girl? Anyone seen this 24 yrs old, young, cute, Rosa Maria Perez from Cartagena, usually hangs out in El Centro. Loves to dance and party. Trying to find out if she is a Pre-Pago (working girl) or Normal girl, any feedback appreciated thank you.[/QUOTE]Hey bro, I know how frustrating it is trying to figure a lady out, specially if it is a girl you like or love, I know someone that works in one of those bars close to Tu candela, he can help you track her down or investigate on her, lets hope she is not selling booty, Merry Christmas to everyone on this board and website.

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1364251]LOL!

Good point, but let me point out that the standard regulated price from the airport to Bocagrande or Centro (the one printed on the voucher at the taxi boot) is 17k. Therefore, if a driver asks 15k from Centro / Bocagrande to la Jaiva, which is right after the airport, it does not sound too much to me. Anyway, it really sounds bad taste to me negotiating with the driver for 2k less, when he knows you are going to give AT LEAST 100k to the girl, and you spent maybe the same on drinks in the past 2 hours.[/QUOTE]I'm going to have to disagree somewhat, or to an extent.

The "standard or regulated" taxi fare from the Airport to Bocagrande is not comparable to say the Crespo to Bocagrande taxi fare. Why not? Because the "standard / regulated" fare from / to the airport includes an airport surcharge, so to speak.

For example, here are some 2012 published fares for Cartagena:

Airport to Bocagrande (or anywhere in Zone 5, which includes Laguito) is 16 mil pesos.

Bocagrande to Crespo / Marbella / Canapote / Daniel Lemaitre is 8 mil pesos.

Centro to Canapote / Crespo / Marbella is 5 mil pesos.

Centro to Danile Lemaitre is 5600 pesos.

Airport to Centro is 8500 pesos.

Now, is it standard / typical to pay an additional charge for night time and then even a little more for the "wee hours of 3 to 5 am.? Yes. As an example, I typically pay 5 mil for Laguito to Centro during the day, but 6 mil later at night. At 5 am coming out of Electra, the taxis (vultures) waiting right there like to even ask for 7 or 8 mil to take you back to Laguito. You decide if you want to pay that extra 1 to 2 mil pesos "Electra back home" wee hours upcharge.

The first time I went to Las Dunas back in July of this year, I used the taxi fares listed in World Travel69's post on the Cartagena List thread as my guide. The 10 mil I paid that time was a little too much. Why? Because I relied on the Cartagena List post that suggested 10 mil from 2007, I was intoxicated and I used one of those taxi drivers waiting outside of Electra (they like to upcharge tourists). The 15 mil I paid for the trip back from Las Dunas to Laguito wasn't too off because we did have to drop the chica off in some barrio around el centro and he stopped and waited for me at Olympica in Bocagrande before finally dropping me off at the apartment in Laguito (they like to look at it as 3 separate trips: 5 mil from Las Dunas to Centro; 5 mil from Centro to Bocagrande; 5 mil from Bocagrande to Laguito).

Subsequent to the July 2012 visit to Las Dunas that I posted about in the Cartagena Lists thread, I have been an additional 3 times from Centro to Las Dunas and Las Dunas to Laguito. I've also been 1 time from Bocagrande to Las Dunas. Each time from Centro to Las Dunas was between the hours of 4 am and 5:30 am. On those 3 post-July occasions I paid 8 mil, which is in essence a 3 mil premium over the published standard daytime fare. On the way back to Laguito, I paid 12 or 13 mil each time, which included dropping the chica off on the way.

On the Bocagrande to Las Dunas trip, it was during the afternoon and I paid the standard 8 mil fare, as well as an 8 mil fare back to Bocagrande (no separate stop for the 2 chicas, as they came back to Bocagrande as well).

My feeling on the matter? The 2012 standard daytime published fare from Centro to Canapote / Crespo / Marbella is 5 mil pesos. During the day time, that's what a feller should pay. At 4:30 am the morning, intoxicated, and coming out of Electra into the hands of one of the taxis (vultures) waiting right there, well a 3 mil premium for a total of 8 mil is sufficient (more than) given the time of day and convenience of not having to walk out the main street, etc. Coming back to Bocagrande or Laguito at around 7 or 8 am.? 8 mil unless the taxi has to make a trip / stop to drop off the chica at her place around centro, then 12 or 13 mil.

Each year the Mayor de Cartagena's office publishes the taxi fares. Here's a link to 2012 published fares for Cartagena:

[url]http://www.transitocartagena.gov.co/links/Decretos/Decretos_2010/Decreto0150.PDF[/url]

My 2 cents on taxi fare is to use the annual published fares as your guide. Then a guy can pay a little more for late night / wee hours and if he likes, even another mil or two for the convenience of having a vulture waiting right there at 4:30 am to whisk him away before the Vitamin V kicks into full effect, LOL. Adjust for having the driver drop off the chica on the way back, making a pit stop for you, etc.

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;1364567]I'm going to have to disagree somewhat, or to an extent.[/QUOTE]Chapeau!

Your post should be linked in the RoD section.

[QUOTE=Black Page; 1364582]Chapeau!

Your post should be linked in the RoD section.[/QUOTE]Damn Black Page, this is your 666 posts. Somethings kind of "Devilish". LMAO. (kidding!) I've Rtff then more Rtff, I've yet to find How close is the Mirador del Laquito hotel from all the action? Ie Elecktras and LDVs? My boy Hillybilly69 says its cool, but How much per night? Chica friendly? And It will be 3 of us, so we would like an apt with 3 separate bedrooms, hopefully with queen size beds to fit out fat asses. Any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated. We are also considering the Lee hotel, but we hear its noisy due to a disco being next door, my question is If we request rooms on the higher floors, would that cancell out the noisy disco, or does it not matter?

I am sorry to break my 666 in this way, but I have to reply.

If you take te CTG map (see CTG List) you'll have lots of answers to your questions.

Take a map: locate Laguito / Bocagrande and Centro. They are 5 mins apart by taxi (5k or 6k). LDV is in Bocagrande. Elektra and other bars are in Centro. I don't tell you where is "Mirador del Laguito" because I don't know it (but I have a guess).

Hold off on your reservations till feb or March you are still too early for a April trip. Mirador Del Laguito is 5 minute walk from the LDV and 10 minute walk to Playa Hollywood. You need to rent from Juan or Mery just because if something happens from an illness, credit card ate at an atm they would be there to help you. Elektra is 10 minutes by taxi and 6k pesos at night, it is about 3 miles.

Mirador Del Laguito has limited chica polices { one chica per person} so I would hold off till I get back from next trip and ask around for a better pad.

Mirador 1002, 903 are 2 bedrooms, but if the is only 3 of you 903 has a lockout which is 904 and all have big beds so you would all be in the same apartment.

[url]http://www.singletravel.com/mirador/[/url]

Check the map all the places are on there, scroll down the left column.

[url]https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?vps=3&jsv=329b&hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=202115846141467908565.0004a0706d2b411420a83[/url]

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1364759]Hold off on your reservations till feb or March you are still too early for a April trip. Mirador Del Laguito is 5 minute walk from the LDV and 10 minute walk to Playa Hollywood. You need to rent from Juan or Mery just because if something happens from an illness, credit card ate at an atm they would be there to help you. Elektra is 10 minutes by taxi and 6k pesos at night, it is about 3 miles.

Mirador Del Laguito has limited chica polices { one chica per person} so I would hold off till I get back from next trip and ask around for a better pad.

Mirador 1002, 903 are 2 bedrooms, but if the is only 3 of you 903 has a lockout which is 904 and all have big beds so you would all be in the same apartment.

[url]http://www.singletravel.com/mirador/[/url]

Check the map all the places are on there, scroll down the left column.

[url]https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?vps=3&jsv=329b&hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=202115846141467908565.0004a0706d2b411420a83[/url][/QUOTE]Okay, Hillybilly ill Hold my horses"untill I hear from ya. We are excited about our upcoming trip to Colombia, Also shout out to Black page for the rapid response We appreciate the words of wisdom. Peace Deepmmpactt All Day Every Day.

Hello there, I am a translator and guide in Cartagena. I also rent apartments in the laguito zone, I provide tours.

You can contact me using the private message system I Also provide introductions to GIRLS. I ALSO Provide transportation services. Taxi or minivan.

I don't think this was brought up. But taxis have no meters. ALWAYS ask how much it is before you get in the taxi. They will always try to rip off the gringo and ask for 15k to go to Elektra. Know the rates and tell them so if they try to rip you off.

[QUOTE=RobertSmith;1364452]Pre-Pago or Normal girl? Anyone seen this 24 yrs old, young, cute, Rosa Maria Perez from Cartagena, usually hangs out in El Centro. Loves to dance and party. Trying to find out if she is a Pre-Pago (working girl) or Normal girl, any feedback appreciated thank you.[/QUOTE]The pic with the statues is from Guayaquil, so maybe she is pre-pago but she likes to travel?

[QUOTE=DeepMmpactt;1364891]Okay, Hillybilly ill Hold my horses"untill I hear from ya. We are excited about our upcoming trip to Colombia, Also shout out to Black page for the rapid response We appreciate the words of wisdom. Peace Deepmmpactt All Day Every Day.[/QUOTE]Rule Number One: In all things Colombian (or Colombiana) LISTEN TO HILLBILY

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt;1361544]Has anyone been to Bar Los Angeles in El Bosque recently? Is Carolina (TINY spinner from Medellin area) back there now? Any info would be appreciated, thanks[/QUOTE]Nevermind, got my answer, I saw her, she was not in ctg.

[QUOTE=DeepMmpactt;1364891]Okay, Hillybilly ill Hold my horses"untill I hear from ya. We are excited about our upcoming trip to Colombia, Also shout out to Black page for the rapid response We appreciate the words of wisdom. Peace Deepmmpactt All Day Every Day.[/QUOTE]This is the Apartment I have in mind for you if there is only 3 of you, directly across from the LDV 150 per night so 50 each, I need to check it out for you first. He rents motorcycles too. The 7th floor apartment.

[url]http://www.thelocogringo.com/index/select-apartment[/url]

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1367836]This is the Apartment I have in mind for you if there is only 3 of you, directly across from the LDV 150 per night so 50 each, I need to check it out for you first. He rents motorcycles too. The 7th floor apartment.

[url]http://www.thelocogringo.com/index/select-apartment[/url][/QUOTE]We are doing our research on them apartment link, they look GREAT. We love the idea of being directly across the street from Ldv, that is a huge bonus. I guess that monger was right, you ARE the Guru of Colombia. I've looked at the mapIs club ELECTRAS, its in Bocagrande. ; or did I read that wrong. Once again shoutout to all you Colombia veteran mongers, I look forward to going there. Special shoutout and thanks to Hillbilly69

Deep, think I saw in another thread where there are 3 of you and that you'd like 3 queens or larger. Not sure of your budget, but I can vouch for the Playa Mar Penthouse (Juan Ventura manages) as to meeting that request. And more. I predominantly travel solo, but the one time I did bring two buddies in tow we stayed at the Playa Mar Penthouse. It has 3 bedrooms, each with an extra large king bed and in room full bathroom with shower. Plus you get the outdoor jacuzzi (has heater, unlike Mirador penthouse) on the large rooftop type balcony; air con that works really well; having Leonis the daily maid / cook cleaning-up, making breakfast, keeping fresh, sliced fruit out, etc; the benefits of a building with very favorable chica policy (read multiple chicas for each guy no problem) ; in Laguito (5 min walk to LDV and a couple minutes more to Playa Hollywood) ; on the beach side of the street, etc, etc.

If you and your buddies like a little more space and each guy likes having a King bed and his own full bathroom, if it fits the budget, then Playa Penthouse can certainly meet the needs and has a few unique pluses.

[url]http://www.penthouse.co/penttour/[/url]

I agree 100percent Hiltopper! If the budget works, Playa mar penthouse is killer, I have stayed there many times. Only room I don't like in the penthouse is the bedroom up the spiral staircase. I prefer one of the bedrooms on the 1st floor. Actually I always take the 1st room on left because it has a huge bathtub in the unit. But the whole place is killr. It also has a tv monitor that you can view the lobby on which is nice if you have chicas wanting to come up that you have talked to you can view them and when the front desk calls up you already see whats there. So if its someone you don't want to see you just say no. Defintely a great place!

[QUOTE=Hilltopper; 1369414]Deep, think I saw in another thread where there are 3 of you and that you'd like 3 queens or larger. Not sure of your budget, but I can vouch for the Playa Mar Penthouse (Juan Ventura manages) as to meeting that request. And more. I predominantly travel solo, but the one time I did bring two buddies in tow we stayed at the Playa Mar Penthouse. It has 3 bedrooms, each with an extra large king bed and in room full bathroom with shower. Plus you get the outdoor jacuzzi (has heater, unlike Mirador penthouse) on the large rooftop type balcony; air con that works really well; having Leonis the daily maid / cook cleaning-up, making breakfast, keeping fresh, sliced fruit out, etc; the benefits of a building with very favorable chica policy (read multiple chicas for each guy no problem) ; in Laguito (5 min walk to LDV and a couple minutes more to Playa Hollywood) ; on the beach side of the street, etc, etc.

If you and your buddies like a little more space and each guy likes having a King bed and his own full bathroom, if it fits the budget, then Playa Penthouse can certainly meet the needs and has a few unique pluses.

[url]http://www.penthouse.co/penttour/[/url][/QUOTE]

Heading to CTG end of January need 5 Bedroom house or several Apartments that will equal 5 Bedrooms 2 (2) Bedrooms and a studio etc.

I about to book 5 rooms at Hilton in CTG but want to make sure its overnight guest friendly?

I woould say no it is not guest friendly and I recommend you look for a few apartments. Its cheaper and better.

[QUOTE=DmnyBoy;1370458]I about to book 5 rooms at Hilton in CTG but want to make sure its overnight guest friendly?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=You Can;1370760]I woould say no it is not guest friendly and I recommend you look for a few apartments. Its cheaper and better.[/QUOTE]No doubt! Can you imagine five foreign mongers bringing back 5 working girl all at the same time going over well at the Hilton? Discretion in Colombia is your friend. If a big party or an argument ensues, do you really want to have hotel staff and all the guests (families, upper-crust domestic travelers, etc.) on your floor alerted?

For less money than 5 hotel rooms (unless you just have that many points) , you could rent the aforementioned Playa Mar Penthouse and a 2 bedroom / 2 bath apartment in the same building. You'd have the Penthouse as your "party central / headquarters" location with Leonis cooking breakfast or lunch (or both) for all of you after a hard night of grinding! Any of the 5 smoke? No problem. Any of the 5 swingin' a big dick that makes the chicas scream to the top of their lungs? No problem. The advantages go on and on.

[QUOTE=DmnyBoy;1370458]I about to book 5 rooms at Hilton in CTG but want to make sure its overnight guest friendly?[/QUOTE]Terrible idea. You will pay FOUR times the cost of a decent apartment and three times the cost of a nice one. The hotel is NOT chica friendly. This is an international chain and the most prominent hotel in Cartagena? What would even give you this idea?

I stayed there with my girlfriend once, it was a special that was around $110 for the night, generally it's closer 300K COP if not 400K on a busy time. That's a lot of money just to be hassled by the reception when you want to bring a guest up and to have them ***** at you if you are partying.

Aim for more privacy and better value.

I was trying to put it gingerely with this statement. I cannot imagine ever staying at the Hilton in CTG and trying to bring working girls back there! I have walked thru the hotel many times just out of the need to take a walk, both inside and outside where there beach area is and it would be a big mistake to stay there. I actually thought the guy was kididng because he had a couple post about what kind of place he wanted to stay at? So I really didn't take Dannyboy seriously! Just the price alone would be rediculous, not to mention the problem trying to bring some girls in mini skirts and heels with their tits bulging out of there tops into the place. LOL.

[QUOTE=You Can;1370760]I woould say no it is not guest friendly and I recommend you look for a few apartments. Its cheaper and better.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DmnyBoy;1370457]Heading to CTG end of January need 5 Bedroom house or several Apartments that will equal 5 Bedrooms 2 (2) Bedrooms and a studio etc.[/QUOTE]Check out Juan Ventura's apartments. He has a couple of 4 Bedrooms and an 11 BR house.

i coming down in feb, bringing a chica from medellin. i kind of regret asking her now, but i like her and we get along, unfortunately she is not into girls, however i am not going to back out now. i can always go back to do some serious mongering. i just have a couple of questions, i am looking for more of dating experience than mongering.

1) are there any zip lines around the area, i do not want to drive / taxi to far out of town.

2) in the past post someone mentioned a german restaurant, but could not remember the name, does anyone know what it is.

3) are there any regular type of night clubs?

4) what can i expect to pay for jet ski rental.

5) are there any night time diner cruises.

6) is there any type of amusement parks.

also any recommendations for a regular type of date kind of activities (non-mongering).

thanks for the info.

speedstick.

[quote=speedstick; 1371947]i coming down in feb, bringing a chica from medellin. i kind of regret asking her now, but i like her and we get along, unfortunately she is not into girls, however i am not going to back out now. i can always go back to do some serious mongering. i just have a couple of questions, i am looking for more of dating experience. . . . . .
also any recommendations for a regular type of date kind of activities (non-mongering).

thanks for the info.

speedstick.[/quote]if you will be in medellin first to pick her up, your best bet is to ask a travel agency.

[quote=speedstick; 1371947]i coming down in feb, bringing a chica from medellin. i kind of regret asking her now, but i like her and we get along, unfortunately she is not into girls, however i am not going to back out now. i can always go back to do some serious mongering. i just have a couple of questions, i am looking for more of dating experience than mongering.

1) are there any zip lines around the area, i do not want to drive / taxi to far out of town.

2) in the past post someone mentioned a german restaurant, but could not remember the name, does anyone know what it is.

3) are there any regular type of night clubs?

4) what can i expect to pay for jet ski rental.

5) are there any night time diner cruises.

6) is there any type of amusement parks.

also any recommendations for a regular type of date kind of activities (non-mongering).

thanks for the info.

speedstick.[/quote]if you can read and understand spanish just google it. i'm sure there will be plenty of people trying to lure you into their businesses for tourist stuff.

[quote=speedstick; 1371947]i coming down in feb, bringing a chica from medellin. i kind of regret asking her now, but i like her and we get along, unfortunately she is not into girls, however i am not going to back out now. i can always go back to do some serious mongering. i just have a couple of questions, i am looking for more of dating experience than mongering.

1) are there any zip lines around the area, i do not want to drive / taxi to far out of town.

2) in the past post someone mentioned a german restaurant, but could not remember the name, does anyone know what it is.

3) are there any regular type of night clubs?

4) what can i expect to pay for jet ski rental.

5) are there any night time diner cruises.

6) is there any type of amusement parks.

also any recommendations for a regular type of date kind of activities (non-mongering).

thanks for the info.

speedstick.[/quote]i am going to cartagena in february and i also asked a girl from medellin to stay with me for a few days. she will probably take the bus. i will arrive on feb 13 and he birthday is that.

day.

as far as your question. i have heard there is jet skis now, but iam sure like everything else the price is negotiable. a good rule is offer 1/2 of what they want sometimes less. if they are not busy they will evenually accept your offer.

something that your girl will love is a boat trip to the rosairo island and then to the beach. this is done on the same trip. the rosario island has a dolphin show and other sea life is

small but interesting. on the dock of rosario islnad the is vendors that sell lobster. when i was there about a year and a half ago it cost 5000 pesos for half a lobster and was very

good. is a good idea to buy some lobster and take with you to the beach because on the beach they serve lunch a fish with it head still on is ok but the lobster is much better.

this beach is much better than the beach at cartagena sand is nicer and water is alot clearer. one other thing there are verious types of boats. the fastes is probably the long small speed boats but can get very bumpy and is hard on the back, a bigger boat is slower but you do not get you spine jolted every time you hit a big wave.

your question about regular night clubs. yes there are regular night clubs. some are mentioned in other posts, and it is possible to pick up girls at the night clubs.

another nice place to go is on the wall of the old city. there is a bar that i think now serves food. and has a great view but is very expensive,

a good place to eat is inside the old city there is a court yard with restaurants all around and at time there is entertainment.

i don't know of any amusement parks but there is a zoo in barraquilla which is about a hour to hout and a half by car.

I am a professional canadian going to Cartagena Colombia for vacation and looking for a nice latin women that is fun and can speak english. I live in Canada and do not speak much spanish, I would love to know more about Cartagena women and getting around the city.

1) zip lines. i have no idea what this means.

2) german restuarant. i don't remember its name either, but it's in getsemani very close to the cafe de arsenal i believe. cafe de arsenal is another outdoor restaurant v similar to cafe del mar.

3) regular nightclubs. there are lots. fragma, babar, mr babilla, tu candela. they all have at least some ho's, but i'd still call them 'regular' nightclubs.

[quote=speedstick; 1371947]i coming down in feb, bringing a chica from medellin. i kind of regret asking her now, but i like her and we get along, unfortunately she is not into girls, however i am not going to back out now. i can always go back to do some serious mongering. i just have a couple of questions, i am looking for more of dating experience than mongering.

1) are there any zip lines around the area, i do not want to drive / taxi to far out of town.

2) in the past post someone mentioned a german restaurant, but could not remember the name, does anyone know what it is.

3) are there any regular type of night clubs?

4) what can i expect to pay for jet ski rental.

5) are there any night time diner cruises.

6) is there any type of amusement parks.

also any recommendations for a regular type of date kind of activities (non-mongering).

thanks for the info.

speedstick.[/quote]

hi speed email fabio the translator he will help you with all you need for a small fee, also if you need to replace your girl from medellin fabio will take care of that.

[quote=speedstick; 1371947]i coming down in feb, bringing a chica from medellin. i kind of regret asking her now, but i like her and we get along, unfortunately she is not into girls, however i am not going to back out now. i can always go back to do some serious mongering. i just have a couple of questions, i am looking for more of dating experience than mongering.

1) are there any zip lines around the area, i do not want to drive / taxi to far out of town.

2) in the past post someone mentioned a german restaurant, but could not remember the name, does anyone know what it is.

3) are there any regular type of night clubs?

4) what can i expect to pay for jet ski rental.

5) are there any night time diner cruises.

6) is there any type of amusement parks.

also any recommendations for a regular type of date kind of activities (non-mongering).

thanks for the info.

speedstick.[/quote]a couple of touristy stuff. take her to playa blanca or isla de rosario beach. there is also an aquarium at isla de rosario. at night there are these party buses. you can't miss someone trying to sell you these tours by just walking around. cafe del mar has a beautiful view. can't miss that.

There is a New Parasail boat now in Cartagena, Jet skis depending on what your girlfriend looks like is 20k pesos ( 20 min) to Centro and back from Playa Hollywood when they aren't too busy.

Playa Blanca, De Punta de Arena beach, the Mud Volcano (45 minutes) , take the double decker bus for around the city tourist stuff, take the chiva bus at night to do a bar hopping tour.

Casa de Cerbasa has stunning views at night for a drink, Cafe del Mar. Santo Domingo Plaza for people watching. There is Carnival games in Caribe Plaza.

[QUOTE=Kroder;1372189]I am going to Cartagena in February and I also asked a girl from Medellin to stay with me for a few days. She will probably take the bus. I will arrive on feb 13 and he birthday is that.[/QUOTE]Do yourself a favor and spend the $100. Or less to fly her there, the bus ride is 14-17 hours and she will be too tired to put out for at least the first day, money well spent.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1372484]Do yourself a favor and spend the $100. Or less to fly her there, the bus ride is 14-17 hours and she will be too tired to put out for at least the first day, money well spent.[/QUOTE]Who do you typically fly with for this $100 route?

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;1372502]Who do you typically fly with for this $100 route?[/QUOTE]VivaColombia, the Spirit Airlines of Colombia. If you really wanted to save money you could fly her in for around $50. Then send her home on the bus. If I was flying the route I would spend $175. and fly Avianca.

Thanks everyone for the info will provide a report for those who would be interested in a tourist type post.

the german restaurant is leon de bavaria its about 3 doors from mr babillas night club in getsamani.

[quote=speedstick;1372561]thanks everyone for the info will provide a report for those who would be interested in a tourist type post.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1372539]VivaColombia, the Spirit Airlines of Colombia. If you really wanted to save money you could fly her in for around $50. Then send her home on the bus. If I was flying the route I would spend $175. and fly Avianca.[/QUOTE]Thanks.

You are right Avianca has a good price going from Medellin to Cartagena price right now is about 120, 000 pesos which is about 70 dollars round trip

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1372397]There is a New Parasail boat now in Cartagena, Jet skis depending on what your girlfriend looks like is 20k pesos (20 min) to Centro and back from Playa Hollywood when they aren't too busy.

Playa Blanca, De Punta de Arena beach, the Mud Volcano (45 minutes) , take the double decker bus for around the city tourist stuff, take the chiva bus at night to do a bar hopping tour.

Casa de Cerbasa has stunning views at night for a drink, Cafe del Mar. Santo Domingo Plaza for people watching. There is Carnival games in Caribe Plaza.[/QUOTE]Are you saying the better your girl looks the better price you can get for jetski's.

[quote=kroder;1372604]are you saying the better your girl looks the better price you can get for jetski's.[/quote]you ever see that seinfeld episode where that beautiful chic was like a monster who got everything she wanted with hardly any effort, got him off speeding tickets, bunch of other shit, yadda yadda?

the jet ski's are rented by guys, hot chics get a better price.

[quote=speedstick;1372561]thanks everyone for the info will provide a report for those who would be interested in a tourist type post.[/quote]it wouldn't hurt you to buy a snorkel, mask and fins for your suitcase, you will be around water alot, i am bringing a furbaspin telescopic fishing pole and saltwater reel next trip, them fish out there were disrespecting me at intrege tropical last trip splashing me with water and shit, dem bastards are going to end up as someones lunch!

[QUOTE=Kroder; 1372603]Thanks.

You are right Avianca has a good price going from Medellin to Cartagena price right now is about 120, 000 pesos which is about 70 dollars round trip[/QUOTE]You mean Viva?

Black Friday. I got a 80k RT deal from Bogota to Medellin. Including expedited line upgrade and additional bag. That was a steal!

Ya, good idea. Even short trips can be a nightmare. Once I was going from Santa Marta to Cartagena and got stopped for half a day.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1372484]Do yourself a favor and spend the $100. Or less to fly her there, the bus ride is 14-17 hours and she will be too tired to put out for at least the first day, money well spent.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hilltopper; 1369414]Deep, think I saw in another thread where there are 3 of you and that you'd like 3 queens or larger. Not sure of your budget, but I can vouch for the Playa Mar Penthouse (Juan Ventura manages) as to meeting that request. And more. I predominantly travel solo, but the one time I did bring two buddies in tow we stayed at the Playa Mar Penthouse. It has 3 bedrooms, each with an extra large king bed and in room full bathroom with shower. Plus you get the outdoor jacuzzi (has heater, unlike Mirador penthouse) on the large rooftop type balcony; air con that works really well; having Leonis the daily maid / cook cleaning-up, making breakfast, keeping fresh, sliced fruit out, etc; the benefits of a building with very favorable chica policy (read multiple chicas for each guy no problem) ; in Laguito (5 min walk to LDV and a couple minutes more to Playa Hollywood) ; on the beach side of the street, etc, etc.

If you and your buddies like a little more space and each guy likes having a King bed and his own full bathroom, if it fits the budget, then Playa Penthouse can certainly meet the needs and has a few unique pluses.

[url]http://www.penthouse.co/penttour/[/url][/QUOTE]Wow, you veteran mongers really are generous with the great advice! Thanks Hilltopper and Hillbilly69, Damn who's the next person to give Old DeepMmpactt some great Cartagena advice?"Over the hill" (totally joking!) I will look into those "penthouses" also thankyou Ncl pimp. Yeah we are 3 big guys, so we need BIG BEDS. Hillbilly69 knows I am a ". Weirdo" those Colombia women better have "pretty toes."or I'm scratching Colombia off my lists. LOL! (Weird Foot Fetish) , but like I told my buddy Hillbilly69, If them (Columbian. Women) are gorgeous and have pretty toes, I am going to."Smash like the HULK! LMAO!"The Chocolate Jackhammer wrecks Cartagena"

[quote=hillbilly69; 1372780]you ever see that seinfeld episode where that beautiful chic was like a monster who got everything she wanted with hardly any effort, got him off speeding tickets, bunch of other shit, yadda yadda?

the jet ski's are rented by guys, hot chics get a better price.[/quote]dude, i love your posts.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1373472]Dude, I love your posts.[/QUOTE]I tried what Hillbilly said but I made the mistake of approaching the jet ski guys with the hot chic, so I am sure he knew I was paying so send her ahead and catch up with her after she has a price.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1372397]There is a New Parasail boat now in Cartagena, Jet skis depending on what your girlfriend looks like is 20k pesos (20 min) to Centro and back from Playa Hollywood when they aren't too busy.

Playa Blanca, De Punta de Arena beach, the Mud Volcano (45 minutes) , take the double decker bus for around the city tourist stuff, take the chiva bus at night to do a bar hopping tour.

Casa de Cerbasa has stunning views at night for a drink, Cafe del Mar. Santo Domingo Plaza for people watching. There is Carnival games in Caribe Plaza.[/QUOTE]I think I must have went to the wrong place, the guy I wanted to rent from was on the beach right where you enter the beach on that street that leads to the street that LDV is on, In El Laguito (next to the restaurant where they bring you sheet pan full of freshly dead fish and say "this is the menu"). That guy wanted like 100 dollars for an hour. Play hollywood is around the corner from there closer to Boca Grande? Is this right? So this is a different place?

[QUOTE=Mojo Bandit;1375744]I tried what Hillbilly said but I made the mistake of approaching the jet ski guys with the hot chic, so I am sure he knew I was paying so send her ahead and catch up with her after she has a price.[/QUOTE]I don't explain things good, I am usually in the beach chair and rarely go out myself, guarding my belongings but jet ski prices vary like girl prices and such. But I am the person paying for them serveral times per day and I only give her 20k pesos each time to leave from Playa Hollywood to Centro and back. Playa Hollywood is in front Hotel Dann. I think gringo price is easily double.

Here is a Jet ski route map and location, Mojo if you are riding as well have your Girl offer him 25k pesos.


[url] http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=202115846141467908565.0004d3bc1b34b069d8dfa [/url]

[QUOTE=Mojo Bandit;1375744]I tried what Hillbilly said but I made the mistake of approaching the jet ski guys with the hot chic, so I am sure he knew I was paying so send her ahead and catch up with her after she has a price.[/QUOTE]Ask for a guy named Pepe.

I was in CTG in November for the 5th time and thought I should finally write a little. I find that the trips just keep getting better, when you think, okay I've seen this town enough. Then on the next it exceeds your expectations. I know people on the board here have there preferences for one city over another. But I just love the beach (scene, not the very average sand / water) , after several times you will know alot of the characters. Each time I think you are better able to size people / girls up and I have to say this time I didn't have one bad session / experience I had the pleasure of meeting a very nice 20 yr old university student (I know, they all say that, but saw her I'd) and also got to see an old friend. These 2 were seen each day on a revolving basis during the days, and then mixing up others at nite. I met the most beautiful girl I had ever had there on the 1st nite in the plaza iin front of tu candela. 20 yr old, sitting w / her friends. I was afraid she might be to naive / dead fish due to her complete lack of english and my limited spanish, but she became immediatly agrresive / GFE once we were in the cab and went back to apt for tln. Unfortatley, I never got back w / her due to my failure to call on a timely basis. And other alternatives. I finally made it to the club that opens at 3 am, forget the name, quite a scene to watch it fill up, become crazy for like 90minutes. I had spent the end of a very long nite there getting picked up by 19 yo from Cali. Who I would then call at about 3am each nite and she would show up in 20-30 min at my apt. The trip had its share of drama, girls showing up at the apt when I was occupied. But always eventually resolved. Highlight being my old friend (23 yo) bringing her friend to the beach, having lunch and drinks, then the 3 of us heading to the apt for a late afternoon fiesta. Much more, but you get the picture. Can't wait till I back in 3 weeks.

Enjoy,

Doc

Nice condensed report. I agree with you, everytime I say I am going to go somewhere else I end up back in Cartagena and always have a good time. I will be there Feb 18 to 25 and am very much looking forward to that week, especially with the temps here in the 20's as of right now.

[QUOTE=Travel Doc10; 1376417]I was in CTG in November for the 5th time and thought I should finally write a little. I find that the trips just keep getting better, when you think, okay I've seen this town enough. Then on the next it exceeds your expectations. I know people on the board here have there preferences for one city over another. But I just love the beach (scene, not the very average sand / water) , after several times you will know alot of the characters. Each time I think you are better able to size people / girls up and I have to say this time I didn't have one bad session / experience I had the pleasure of meeting a very nice 20 yr old university student (I know, they all say that, but saw her I'd) and also got to see an old friend. These 2 were seen each day on a revolving basis during the days, and then mixing up others at nite. I met the most beautiful girl I had ever had there on the 1st nite in the plaza iin front of tu candela. 20 yr old, sitting w / her friends. I was afraid she might be to naive / dead fish due to her complete lack of english and my limited spanish, but she became immediatly agrresive / GFE once we were in the cab and went back to apt for tln. Unfortatley, I never got back w / her due to my failure to call on a timely basis. And other alternatives. I finally made it to the club that opens at 3 am, forget the name, quite a scene to watch it fill up, become crazy for like 90minutes. I had spent the end of a very long nite there getting picked up by 19 yo from Cali. Who I would then call at about 3am each nite and she would show up in 20-30 min at my apt. The trip had its share of drama, girls showing up at the apt when I was occupied. But always eventually resolved. Highlight being my old friend (23 yo) bringing her friend to the beach, having lunch and drinks, then the 3 of us heading to the apt for a late afternoon fiesta. Much more, but you get the picture. Can't wait till I back in 3 weeks.

Enjoy,

Doc[/QUOTE]

Is anything going on in CTG the first / second week in Feb? Flights almost sold out and upwards of 700 from Miami. 1K from NYC. There is a festival in Barranquilla around same dates but I can hardly see flights from the US sell out due to this. Or did I miss anything?

I am not sure of anything going on, but I just checked Spirit air out of Ft. Lauderdale and it was round trip Feb 4 to 10 for 473. 00 round trip not including bag fees which if you are a member is no more than 40. Round trip. I bought my flights out of Atantic City to Cartagena for 404. 00 round trip, (feb 18 to 25) so it is on pricey side for florida to Cartagena, but still a lot less than 700 to 1000. 00 In the last 6 months I notice a lot more gringos in Cartagena. When I first started going down there you rarely saw an American which I liked now there is a lot more. With Jet blue starting service, there probably will be more Americans traveling here. Though for some it may be more pricey than they are use to as it certainley isn't as cheap as many of the other islands.

[QUOTE=Sean EZ;1377334]Is anything going on in CTG the first / second week in Feb? Flights almost sold out and upwards of 700 from Miami. 1K from NYC. There is a festival in Barranquilla around same dates but I can hardly see flights from the US sell out due to this. Or did I miss anything?[/QUOTE]

Maybe if you've got flexibility in dates I need those exact dates and out of Miami only one direct flight comes up on Kayak is this one. I am not paying this much out of principle.

$712.

Avianca Aerovias.

MIA 1:30p CTG 4:16p 2h 46m nonstop.
CTG 9:30a MIA 12:15p 2h 45m nonstop.

And Spirit is 817 for same dates.

I can't remember first time I went to CTG it was maybe 2002 or 2004 and there were very few gringos back then. Idk if this good or not that there are more of them now, maybe more gringos mean more selection of available girls, supply = demand kind of thing. I hope Colombia does not turn Brazil prices in the near future.

[QUOTE=Sean EZ; 1378152]Maybe if you've got flexibility in dates I need those exact dates and out of Miami only one direct flight comes up on Kayak is this one. I am not paying this much out of principle.

$712.

Avianca Aerovias.

MIA 1:30p CTG 4:16p 2h 46m nonstop.

CTG 9:30a MIA 12:15p 2h 45m nonstop.

And Spirit is 817 for same dates.

I can't remember first time I went to CTG it was maybe 2002 or 2004 and there were very few gringos back then. Idk if this good or not that there are more of them now, maybe more gringos mean more selection of available girls, supply = demand kind of thing. I hope Colombia does not turn Brazil prices in the near future.[/QUOTE]I bought my ticket 2 months ago and paid 366 from chicago to Cartagena on feb 13.

I just bought a girls ticket from from Medellin to cartaegna for less than 100.

Try flying to Cartagena via another city.

Check sprit to Medellin and then aviance from Medellin to Cartagena.

Or try going through Bogota.

Think you can find something for under 500 traveling from fort lauderdale.

One other thing I found two avianca web sites one in english with american dollars and one with colombian pesos.

Make sure you use the avianca with pesos it us about half the price

I've been getiing plenty of info from this site, felt I needed to post. My 1st night here was much better than my past

Trip here which was the week after semana santa. This time LDV had plenty of talent. Most of the time at these venues, I might.

Like a few of the girls. After the interview maybe just one. This time was much different. As the girls started to arrive,

I must have had at least 4-5 options. I am loving this trip so far. Sessioned with a blond spinner from Pereira. Best ass in

The place, Paulina. Killer time was had. Thee hottest chica I saw was leaving as I arrived at LDV. Smokin. I'm going to get some

Of that if she is still in CTG this trip. She could easily be a playboy model. I think I would have pulled that chic the moment I set eyes on her.

On a side note, my COPA flight stopped at PTY. I had a 12hr layover. I got out of that airport so fast and made my way to

The Veneto. The place was loaded with chicas at about 10pm. This was last Thursday night. There was only 2 stand outs. Took up.

A spinner from MDE. Was'nt great, but took the edge off. When I made my way back down to the bar, the talent was not much

Better. I'm glad I pulled the trigger. Later I Walked down to Habano's. Talent was good. Did'nt pull anyone. I finally made my

Way to Golden Times. The line up was average. I asked for a 2nd look and interview for #2 Natalie. She was way to boared.

Decided to hold off and save it for CTG.

Well, today going to get some beach action, yesterday alot of families at the beach. Hard to determine who's who. I'll try and

Post thoughout this trip

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[QUOTE=You Can;1377521]I am not sure of anything going on, but I just checked Spirit air out of Ft. Lauderdale and it was round trip Feb 4 to 10 for 473. 00 round trip not including bag fees which if you are a member is no more than 40. Round trip. I bought my flights out of Atantic City to Cartagena for 404. 00 round trip, (feb 18 to 25) so it is on pricey side for florida to Cartagena, but still a lot less than 700 to 1000. 00 In the last 6 months I notice a lot more gringos in Cartagena. When I first started going down there you rarely saw an American which I liked now there is a lot more. With Jet blue starting service, there probably will be more Americans traveling here. Though for some it may be more pricey than they are use to as it certainley isn't as cheap as many of the other islands.[/QUOTE]The increase in mongering gringos can't be good for us :-D.

One of my favourite girls in MDE told me that few of the popular girls are shifting their operation to CTG. She said there are more "tourists" to CTG now and money is better. She is not sure why and I wonder if it has anything to do with the secret service scandal! They did not increase the number of cruise ships or have overnight cruise ship rest stops now in CTZ?

[QUOTE=Vitrea; 1378527]The increase in mongering gringos can't be good for us :-D.

One of my favourite girls in MDE told me that few of the popular girls are shifting their operation to CTG. She said there are more "tourists" to CTG now and money is better. She is not sure why and I wonder if it has anything to do with the secret service scandal! They did not increase the number of cruise ships or have overnight cruise ship rest stops now in CTZ?[/QUOTE]Supply and demand with the girls, as Youcan stated Jet Blue has new flights, I saw a while back new direct flight from Europe was starting to Cartagena, the New road getting constructed from Barranquilla to Cartagena, the new expressways getting built to the coast, the new boardwalk along the beach and hotels, it should be interesting in the next few years what happens there. I ain't too worried about it. Seeing more hot chics from Barranquilla, Cali and Bogota would be terrible! LMAO

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1378531]Supply and demand with the girls, as Youcan stated Jet Blue has new flights, I saw a while back new direct flight from Europe was starting to Cartagena, the New road getting constructed from Barranquilla to Cartagena, the new expressways getting built to the coast, the new boardwalk along the beach and hotels, it should be interesting in the next few years what happens there. I ain't too worried about it. Seeing more hot chics from Barranquilla, Cali and Bogota would be terrible! LMAO[/QUOTE]Hillbilly is right. This place is crawling with chicas. Women outnumbered men by far. The ratio was still great at LDV even after alot of women left. There is alot of chicas here this weekend. Met a girl from Cali, Estefany, during breakfast. When she came to pick up her phone order, she sat down, I gave her the eye, she smiled, it was on. Had a ST with her before she left back to Cali. She also gave me her friends number from MDE.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1378531]Supply and demand with the girls, as Youcan stated Jet Blue has new flights, I saw a while back new direct flight from Europe was starting to Cartagena, the New road getting constructed from Barranquilla to Cartagena, the new expressways getting built to the coast, the new boardwalk along the beach and hotels, it should be interesting in the next few years what happens there. I ain't too worried about it. Seeing more hot chics from Barranquilla, Cali and Bogota would be terrible! LMAO[/QUOTE]As usual, all good points. Sounds like a growth phase for all of CTG in general. Over the past few years I fell in love with MDE and I am planning on investing in real estate there. Obviously not for mongering reasons (as that would be stupid) but for climate, friendliness, culture and most importantly the future growth potential.

Sounds like I should seriously consider CTG as well.

Would love to hear if any of you have thoughts on investing in CTG.

I haven't heard about the direct flights from Europe. Can you tell us more?

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1378531]Supply and demand with the girls, as Youcan stated Jet Blue has new flights, I saw a while back new direct flight from Europe was starting to Cartagena, the New road getting constructed from Barranquilla to Cartagena, the new expressways getting built to the coast, the new boardwalk along the beach and hotels, it should be interesting in the next few years what happens there. I ain't too worried about it. Seeing more hot chics from Barranquilla, Cali and Bogota would be terrible! LMAO[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Artful;1378623]I haven't heard about the direct flights from Europe. Can you tell us more?[/QUOTE]Air Stats shows nothing, I found the article in Colombia Reports, service was supposed to start a year ago 3xs a week from Madrid, what happened? , no clue.

[url]http://colombiareports.com/travel-in-colombia/cartagena/18753-air-europa-to-open-madrid-cartagena-route.html[/url]

Air Europa will open direct flights between Spanish capital Madrid and Colombia's coastal city Cartagena de Indias, the company announced Saturday.

According to Miguel Gonzalez, Air Europa's Colombia manager, the airliner will be flying between Madrid and Cartagena three times a week beginning December 1.

Colombian President Juan Manuel Santos said in Cartagena he hoped the direct flights between Spain and Colombia's northern coast will result in an increase in employment in the region.

[QUOTE=Kroder; 1378246]I bought my ticket 2 months ago and paid 366 from chicago to Cartagena on feb 13.

Make sure you use the avianca with pesos it us about half the price[/QUOTE]Thanks, going to give the peso idea a try.

We booked direct United flight from NY to Bogota for $615. Only 4 days will probably skip Cartagena this time. Spirit Air has flights to Bogota for $339 but connection time is awful and just dealing with the bag fees not worth it.

Colombia will probably remain a good destination for awhile, but seeing how quickly Brazil got expensive for most people you just never know

Just got done with a spinner I picked up at the beach. She looks almost like the porn actress "Amy Reed". I am loving this vacation. I am hearing from some people that alot of girls got to get back to school. Some schools have already begun. The rest start next week. So I my be in for some changes this coming week. If it really slows down, I'd say I have had some incredible sessions so far. The last time I was here, it was nothing like this. So I am thinking it could be a seasonal thing. Not sure.

[QUOTE=Dogman1;1378984]Just got done with a spinner I picked up at the beach. She looks almost like the porn actress "Amy Reed". I am loving this vacation. I am hearing from some people that alot of girls got to get back to school. Some schools have already begun. The rest start next week. So I my be in for some changes this coming week. If it really slows down, I'd say I have had some incredible sessions so far. The last time I was here, it was nothing like this. So I am thinking it could be a seasonal thing. Not sure.[/QUOTE]I might have just tapped that too! Ziggy if you need another for your lineup I got a Medellin girl with porn star moves and quite a looker if you need her number she returns yo Paisaland mynana.

I'm headed to Madrid soon and can't wait to report about it but I'm itching to go to Columbia for a vacation. Loved Sosua years ago but time to step up the vacation spots. Insert Columbia.

My question Hillbilly69 is which city Cartagena VS. Medellion. I love beaches (not a deal breaker) and everything a city has to offer. Aug / Sept timeframe?

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69; 1378802]Air Stats shows nothing, I found the article in Colombia Reports, service was supposed to start a year ago 3xs a week from Madrid, what happened? , no clue.

[url]http://colombiareports.com/travel-in-colombia/cartagena/18753-air-europa-to-open-madrid-cartagena-route.html[/url]

Air Europa will open direct flights between Spanish capital Madrid and Colombia's coastal city Cartagena de Indias, the company announced Saturday.

According to Miguel Gonzalez, Air Europa's Colombia manager, the airliner will be flying between Madrid and Cartagena three times a week beginning December 1.

Colombian President Juan Manuel Santos said in Cartagena he hoped the direct flights between Spain and Colombia's northern coast will result in an increase in employment in the region.[/QUOTE]

Oh I forgot Cali?

[QUOTE=The Main One; 1379460]I'm headed to Madrid soon and can't wait to report about it but I'm itching to go to Columbia for a vacation. Loved Sosua years ago but time to step up the vacation spots. Insert Columbia.

My question Hillbilly69 is which city Cartagena VS. Medellion. I love beaches (not a deal breaker) and everything a city has to offer. Aug / Sept timeframe?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=The Main One;1379893]Oh I forgot Cali?[/QUOTE]It is a question of personal preference. Not Cali for me. (See my reports in Cali thread) I will let HB69 answer the direct question you asked him but note that this is a current topic of discussion in the MDE thread (first page today) and probably the most frequently asked question on the CO forum. :-D

[QUOTE=The Main One;1379893]Oh I forgot Cali?[/QUOTE]Flip a coin. You need to see them both, and Cali as well but Cali is more hanging out at malls picking up chics for me.

It has been windy here. Jet Skis have been renting for 2k per minute or a little less. I got middled for a girl from Tony for 150k but I had to hit that! Asked him about getting 80 to 100k girls for my friends coming and he said 150k the girls get 80k, something I already knew. So I asked Fao if he could get 80 to 100k girls for them he said yes. Some beautiful chicas in town but damn has it been windy at the beach, I saw 8 foot waves breaking out at 200 yards out, I heard a annoying whistle blowing and I figured out it was a lifeguard waving people into shore.

Hi Guys,

I am planning a trip to Cartagena for three weeks beginning end of April. I am not sure if I use this forum correctly, but I can't see how I can organize the post per topic, I only see the whole 50. 000 post in a row, so could not read them all. I learnt already a lot by reading the posts of hillbilly69 and checking out his map, so thanks for that already, I still have some basic questions:

1) Can someone recommend me an apartment which is good when I am planning to hit on chicas during the day / early evening? I need to get stuff done during the day so I cannot stay at LDV or ELektra until 5 am. So which strategy is best to catch beautiful girls early? I also would like to walk to the places where the chicas hang out. And the place should be economical, I don't mind if it is a little run down, don't need luxuries (except for working air con).

2) Can someone elaborate on the program chicas offer normally. I must admit that I am somewhat of an ass lover that likes to bang chicks in their booty (spend a lot of time in brazil. But from what I read this program is quite rare in Colombia, is that true?

3) Which would be the best place to pick up regular / semi pro girls?

4) Can someone recommend a good gym in the area?

I know, a lot of questions, an maybe already answered in older posts, alas, I don't find them, so would be greatly appreciated, if someone could give me some hints.

Thanks,

Jeff

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1380114]It has been windy here. Jet Skis have been renting for 2k per minute or a little less. I got middled for a girl from Tony for 150k but I had to hit that! Asked him about getting 80 to 100k girls for my friends coming and he said 150k the girls get 80k, something I already knew. So I asked Fao if he could get 80 to 100k girls for them he said yes. Some beautiful chicas in town but damn has it been windy at the beach, I saw 8 foot waves breaking out at 200 yards out, I heard a annoying whistle blowing and I figured out it was a lifeguard waving people into shore.[/QUOTE]Yeah, it's been windy at the beach these days. The sand really gets into your eyes. Some of the hotter beach girls will always start at 200k. Today, a girl (Tony flagged me down for from half way down the beach) from MDE started at 200k LT, then offered 120k ST. I may have taken her offer had the Amy Reid look alike not shown up. I was too spent, with a few claw marks to boot (LOL). Some of Tony's girls are in the 60k to 80k range but not to attractive. In the end, He who cares the least, wins. Last night at LDV, the Hot chics would not budge from 200k. They all start at 300k, then down from there. I gave the girls my offer, which they declined. However, an hour or two later, with some of the ladies still there with no takers, as I made another walk though, I got some smiles from some of the girls I spoke to. I smiled back at one of them, al little small talk ensued and my offer was accepted. The session was'nt great but good. Going to try Angeles club tonight for a change.

Been getting 1720 to 1740 but exchanged 500 dollars for 1780 in centro inside the wall by the clock tower this morning. Chipped a tooth and had to get a filling at Sunrisa next to Juan Valdez. Got my teeth cleaned and bleached too for 280 dollars about 460k pesos. I just walked in and went right to a chair to get worked on. Not as windy today. Beach had some 7s yesterday.

Jeffcooper 504 in Mirador del laguito is 55 a night a studio apartment. One of my friends will be renting a one bedroom in Torre Centuro on 7th floor for 350 a week soon with maid service daily and it is brand new inside the apartment.

Hey HB will bleaching my teeth get blood stains off of them? Had a little problem with a chica last night. Thanks for any help.

[QUOTE=Hillbilly69;1380702]Been getting 1720 to 1740 but exchanged 500 dollars for 1780 in centro inside the wall by the clock tower this morning. Chipped a tooth and had to get a filling at Sunrisa next to Juan Valdez. Got my teeth cleaned and bleached too for 280 dollars about 460k pesos. I just walked in and went right to a chair to get worked on. Not as windy today. Beach had some 7s yesterday.[/QUOTE]

There is so many girls there that you have a good chance to grab one for a decent price or they will go home with nothing. Was your session that you said wasnt great include BBBJ, kissing etc? I like a GFE type session or I would rather be alone! I usually always grab a girl for 150, 000 or 200, 000 for all night and they really put out. If its not BBBJ I tell them to leave. I can't stand a CBJ. Thanks for your reports. I will be down there on the 18 of Feb. Looking for my gang member that I like to hang out with. Its a love hate relationship!

[QUOTE=Dogman1;1380420]Yeah, it's been windy at the beach these days. The sand really gets into your eyes. Some of the hotter beach girls will always start at 200k. Today, a girl (Tony flagged me down for from half way down the beach) from MDE started at 200k LT, then offered 120k ST. I may have taken her offer had the Amy Reid look alike not shown up. I was too spent, with a few claw marks to boot (LOL). Some of Tony's girls are in the 60k to 80k range but not to attractive. In the end, He who cares the least, wins. Last night at LDV, the Hot chics would not budge from 200k. They all start at 300k, then down from there. I gave the girls my offer, which they declined. However, an hour or two later, with some of the ladies still there with no takers, as I made another walk though, I got some smiles from some of the girls I spoke to. I smiled back at one of them, al little small talk ensued and my offer was accepted. The session was'nt great but good. Going to try Angeles club tonight for a change.[/QUOTE]