Lisbon

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2858506]And that is why you shouldn't mess with that Eurogirls site. 250/ h is fantastically overpriced for Lisbon.

Iza Castilho is a longtime EP girl, who moved down to Lisbon from Porto. Their flat rate is 150/ h, so if you were charged 250, you got snookered.

Pietra is an ex-EP girl who now only advertises on dubious sites like Eurogirls or Massage Republic. She wasn't especially well-reviewed back in her EP days, so if she is very service oriented now, it would be quite a switch. And again, 250/ h is extremely overpriced.[/QUOTE]Incall prices quoted by all of them was 150. Outcall was pretty much default to 250 with one doing a 200 (Iza). I will be curious if folks were able to pay 150 and get outcall with these girls.

[QUOTE=KrisMonger;2859061]Incall prices quoted by all of them was 150. Outcall was pretty much default to 250 with one doing a 200 (Iza). I will be curious if folks were able to pay 150 and get outcall with these girls.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the first review anywhere of Iza Castilho. Glad you liked Lisbon with that one exception.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/iza-castilho/[/URL]

In general, EP does not tag on an additional fee for outcall to metro Lisbon. It is simply 150 euros although the ladies do have some upsells for certain services. If you are outside of metro Lisbon, even EP does an additional charge.

For additional information, I noticed on the big American review board that Juice got another pretty good review. Not spectacular, but a rare GFE Asian in Lisbon.

[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/juice/348814/?list=rr8exg[/URL]

Hey guys, thanks for the great information you are sharing here.

May I ask you for some advise.

Does anyone know this escort service or the lady?

[URL]https://escortslineeurope.com/modelos/natasha-pires/[/URL]

From my point of view it looks like fake because she seems to be too perfect and can't find any information about the agency or her.

Go look at the EP site. You'll find Iza, with the agency prices listed.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/iza-castilho/[/URL]

Moreover, that rate is frequently confirmed on this very thread.

[QUOTE=KrisMonger;2859061]Incall prices quoted by all of them was 150. Outcall was pretty much default to 250 with one doing a 200 (Iza). I will be curious if folks were able to pay 150 and get outcall with these girls.[/QUOTE]

Guys, thank you for posting here.

Can this one be real or does it seem legit to you?

Haven't found anything about either her or the agency.

[URL]https://escortslineeurope.com/modelos/natasha-pires/[/URL]

Thinking about booking her for a few hours if this would be real.

100% my type. Flora and Viviane would be my alternatives though always wanted to try anal with a girl here.

Thankful for your experience and thoughts.

Thank you everyone for your suggestions. I have my eye on this place;.

[URL]https://www.genuine-tantric.com/pt[/URL]

I believe that they will facilitate an outcall. Does anyone have experience of the girls in this place and if they will, for an increased fee if necessary, provide the usual type services beyond just a 'relaxing massage ' ?

Here is the thing about the women on the not-Portuguese ad sites. Some are traveling escorts on tour, so it makes sense for them to not hit Apartadox or Portalprivado for a two week stay. Some adopt a blanket approach, and appear on most everything. Eller Rocha, a highly regarded escort, appears on many, many ad sites.

But then there girls like this one, who ONLY advertise on probably dubious, Internationalized ad sites, while being firmly based in Portugal. It begs the question of why.

None of the plausible answers is positive.

[QUOTE=Ben890;2859235]Guys, thank you for posting here.

Can this one be real or does it seem legit to you?

Haven't found anything about either her or the agency.

[URL]https://escortslineeurope.com/modelos/natasha-pires/[/URL]

Thinking about booking her for a few hours if this would be real.

100% my type. Flora and Viviane would be my alternatives though always wanted to try anal with a girl here.

Thankful for your experience and thoughts.[/QUOTE]

I think Genuine Tantric depends very much on the massagista. They have had some real winners there, but also many mediocre workers. It is also known as a solidly nuru + HJ shop, so don't go looking for FS. You may not even be able to get oral.

[QUOTE=BrownEyes;2859307]Thank you everyone for your suggestions. I have my eye on this place;.

[URL]https://www.genuine-tantric.com/pt[/URL]

I believe that they will facilitate an outcall. Does anyone have experience of the girls in this place and if they will, for an increased fee if necessary, provide the usual type services beyond just a 'relaxing massage ' ?[/QUOTE]

You'll get nothing more than a HJ and the massage may be very average too. I have been a couple of times, including recently, and this latest visit was awful.

Don't go, especially if you are looking for FS.

I shall report on my recent experience shortly.

[QUOTE=BrownEyes;2859307]Thank you everyone for your suggestions. I have my eye on this place;.

[URL]https://www.genuine-tantric.com/pt[/URL]

I believe that they will facilitate an outcall. Does anyone have experience of the girls in this place and if they will, for an increased fee if necessary, provide the usual type services beyond just a 'relaxing massage ' ?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PER23;2854914]So much so, other escorts from EP tell horror stories from their customers who have seen her. She's also way less attractive than the photos suggest. Saw her in 2021 and she was late, poorly dressed, dishevelled and miserable, so I sent her away. The personality is indeed one of the worst I've encountered. Samanta Lima is the absolute worst at EP with Vera a very close second.[/QUOTE]I stupidly fell for her pics. Whoever did her enhancement should be shot, it is one of the worst silicon jobs I have ever seen. Horrible attitude. I had appointments with other girls that I checked the reviews with but somehow I saw her pics and didn't think to check. I just assumed she would be ok at best. Also she did not work out, she just dieted her body has no tone or muscle. Just weird squishiness that made me finish in 20 min and send her out.

[QUOTE=Snafu;2860247]I stupidly fell for her pics. Whoever did her enhancement should be shot, it is one of the worst silicon jobs I have ever seen. Horrible attitude. I had appointments with other girls that I checked the reviews with but somehow I saw her pics and didn't think to check. I just assumed she would be ok at best. Also she did not work out, she just dieted her body has no tone or muscle. Just weird squishiness that made me finish in 20 min and send her out.[/QUOTE]Yep, that sounds about right. Her body is nowhere near those photos. If you want someone with a similar look (for real), good attitude and solid service, try Daniela Matos. She's in her mid thirties so a bit older but I saw her a few times and she's a classy and friendly lady.

Thanks again everyone, especially Monger88 and ExPat. Only two weeks away now from my visit to Lisbon which hopefully will allow a few encounters. Getting dow to the wire now. I am going to concentrate on Escort Privada but if any standouts from Apartodox please recommend also. I am happy to pay over the odds during this visit. It's a one off.

Looking for a ladies;.

- friendly, respectful and positive attitude, this is really important.

- can hold a conversation in english.

- slim, lovely legs and good natural boobs. Nice face but with no lip job.

- one encounter to be be / w 18 -24 , brunette / dark.

- other encounter 27-30 blonde.

- would consider an absolute stunner from 35 upwards.

- outcall only.

Thank you.

Are the ladies generally open to requests? I love heels but hate black heels. Also, some toys might be fun.

Hi guyz,

I will be in Lisbon in November and I would like to have some advice to know who are the best girls I can call to have a wonderful trio.

My kind of girls is natural girls, I love big boobs but I hate fake boobs 😂. I can say *girl next door* is what I love. Not too tall, friendly and thin girl.

The fantasy I would like to test is a true bisexual trio with 2 girls who enjoy being with another girl. The service I'the love to have is a double penetration of one of the 2 girls, so girls needs to have strap on for themself (not for me) .

Is there some girls you think about with what I am looking for guyz?

Sheers.

[QUOTE=JustForFun13;2860374]Hi guyz,

I will be in Lisbon in November and I would like to have some advice to know who are the best girls I can call to have a wonderful trio.

My kind of girls is natural girls, I love big boobs but I hate fake boobs 😂. I can say *girl next door* is what I love. Not too tall, friendly and thin girl.

The fantasy I would like to test is a true bisexual trio with 2 girls who enjoy being with another girl. The service I'the love to have is a double penetration of one of the 2 girls, so girls needs to have strap on for themself (not for me) .[/QUOTE]Here are a couple of possibilities.

This EP trio appears to meet your interests. As to whether every dream comes true, who knows. The angles required to double penetrate a girl in real life isn't easy but it might be doable with you in doggie style anal and the other girl underneath with a flexible strap-on. Portugal is a liberal country and you could bring a strap-on if you want. The girls will insist on using a condom with it, and to be extra safe, you might just want to have it in an unopened package. Both Francisca and Iza advertise anal sex, and anal is confirmed in Francisca's reviews. Francisca's local board reviews say she is indeed a girl next door with natural breasts. Perhaps KrisMonger can let us know if Iza's breasts are enhanced, and if the subject of anal sex came up with her.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/francisca-iza/[/URL]

The other EP duo perfectly fits your bill except for your aversion to enhanced breasts. Alexandra very much has noticeable implants. Alexandra regularly does anal, where Sara does not. They are real life friends who interact very well during a session, so having Sara do strap-on play with Alexandra would not be a problem.

In all scenarios, you will need to remind EP several times about bringing a strap-on and it doesn't hurt to list all of your desires.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/sara-alexandra/[/URL]

[QUOTE=BrownEyes;2860367]Thanks again everyone, especially Monger88 and ExPat. Only two weeks away now from my visit to Lisbon which hopefully will allow a few encounters. Getting dow to the wire now. I am going to concentrate on Escort Privada but if any standouts from Apartodox please recommend also. I am happy to pay over the odds during this visit. It's a one off.

Looking for a ladies;.

- friendly, respectful and positive attitude, this is really important.

- can hold a conversation in english.

- slim, lovely legs and good natural boobs. Nice face but with no lip job.

- one encounter to be be / w 18 -24 , brunette / dark.

- other encounter 27-30 blonde.

- would consider an absolute stunner from 35 upwards.

- outcall only.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]I'm headed back to Lisbon as well from the 27th-30th. I've got one setup from Seeking, but we will see how that works. If not, there are plenty available on EP that are fun to play with.

Let me know if you are in town those dates, maybe we can hook up.

Hi Lisbon pros.

I visited Body Erotic Club and DIVA Strip clubs.

Body has a new owner and I found this club to be ok priced. I didn't pay entry and the drinks were quite normal priced.

There are two beautiful Brazilian girls dancing. Does anyone know if you can get more than private dancing?

My taxi driver wanted to take me to Diva. I quickly understood why. He will get 10 euros extra for the increased entry price of 35 euros. Without a taxi it costs 25. I asked the arrogant doorman, who said he owned the club, if I could enter for 25 like the other guests and he said 35 or no entry. I dropped it.

With such a cheesy welcome I guess there's little fun inside the doors?

I stopped by the white elephant too, mostly to look at the selection. The price is way too expensive for my budget. The 50 euro entrance fee gives you 2 drinks and some sback on the table. Some of the girls are dancing.

2-3 really great ladies, and 50+ more normal ladies, but again, the price is way too high.

I've had a lot of fun at Nuru Spa, both in Cascais and Lisbon. They have Relaxmasage which contains exactly what I want.

I tried to visit several massage parlors and thought Relax massage was common in all parlors, but no way, it is often only massage with a cock massage and release in her hand at the end.

Can someone summarize which salons provide a proper relaxing massage where you can satisfy your dreams? It would be very time-saving to find out from those of you who knows.

I visited a number of Latin ladies who advertised on various portals. When I got to their rooms they were much older and quite fat, far from the photos they use for promotion. I didn't find a single one among approx. 10 visits. Completely wasted.

Thank you in advance!

At the top of your list for the young and brunette should be Flora Neves, but be aware that she is the type who warms up to you and becomes more engaged as she does so. It's not an act. She was much more engaged with me for our second visit, and has remained so ever since.

The back-up in that category is Viviane Miller.

For the somewhat older blonde, Filipa Marques and Carolina Belmont.

And to round things out for your stunner, I'll suggest some ladies who are primarily incall. So, you should expect to pay 200/ h for them to do outcall, but you may be able to negotiate a lower rate for a longer appointment. It isn't what I would do myself, but you said outcall only, and I thought I should point to some ladies who aren't on the usual outcall suspects list.

Julieta.

Kelly Morais

Angel / Lara Azevedo

I think it is pretty well established that a large chunk of the strip club and sex club repertoire in Lisbon are also working days as indie escorts, so going to this places is a waste of money: you pay a surcharge for the venue just to get what you might have otherwise with due diligence.

As for your results working ad sites, well, whenever that complaint comes up it invariably is due to 1) not doing your homework on the sites to use; 2) not doing your homework on the ladies themselves; 3) unrealistic expectations.

I sometimes venture out and try an unknown girl or find reports of a lady are very overstated. But that happens, and in most endeavors to boot. I don't pooh pooh the entire field because of it.

To answer the specific question about massage spas, the one that is the most consistently praised is L'Essence in Alges. I've seen Nuru Spa also referenced, but their reputation generally isn't as clear. As for any and all others: assume it is an HJ-only shop.

[QUOTE=James006;2860548]Hi Lisbon pros.

I visited Body Erotic Club and DIVA Strip clubs.

Body has a new owner and I found this club to be ok priced. I didn't pay entry and the drinks were quite normal priced.

There are two beautiful Brazilian girls dancing. Does anyone know if you can get more than private dancing?

My taxi driver wanted to take me to Diva. I quickly understood why. He will get 10 euros extra for the increased entry price of 35 euros. Without a taxi it costs 25. I asked the arrogant doorman, who said he owned the club, if I could enter for 25 like the other guests and he said 35 or no entry. I dropped it.

With such a cheesy welcome I guess there's little fun inside the doors?

I stopped by the white elephant too, mostly to look at the selection. The price is way too expensive for my budget. The 50 euro entrance fee gives you 2 drinks and some sback on the table. Some of the girls are dancing.

2-3 really great ladies, and 50+ more normal ladies, but again, the price is way too high.

I've had a lot of fun at Nuru Spa, both in Cascais and Lisbon. They have Relaxmasage which contains exactly what I want.

I tried to visit several massage parlors and thought Relax massage was common in all parlors, but no way, it is often only massage with a cock massage and release in her hand at the end.

Can someone summarize which salons provide a proper relaxing massage where you can satisfy your dreams? It would be very time-saving to find out from those of you who knows.

I visited a number of Latin ladies who advertised on various portals. When I got to their rooms they were much older and quite fat, far from the photos they use for promotion. I didn't find a single one among approx. 10 visits. Completely wasted.

Thank you in advance![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2860672]At the top of your list for the young and brunette should be Flora Neves, but be aware that she is the type who warms up to you and becomes more engaged as she does so. It's not an act. She was much more engaged with me for our second visit, and has remained so ever since.

The back-up in that category is Viviane Miller.

For the somewhat older blonde, Filipa Marques and Carolina Belmont.

And to round things out for your stunner, I'll suggest some ladies who are primarily incall. So, you should expect to pay 200/ h for them to do outcall, but you may be able to negotiate a lower rate for a longer appointment. It isn't what I would do myself, but you said outcall only, and I thought I should point to some ladies who aren't on the usual outcall suspects list.[/QUOTE]I picked out Filipa who advertises at 20 -- does that seem correct? Any other info about her would be appreciated.

She got good marks here. The more detailed review on the local board said she was a pretty girl of 25 who appeared well-dressed and on time. She was described as a good kisser and a good lay. I don't think her conversation for the local matters, because it wasn't in English.

[QUOTE=BrownEyes;2860936]I picked out Filipa who advertises at 20 -- does that seem correct? Any other info about her would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2854661]Another one I've already raved about: the beautiful and great Bangla Deshi, Lia Aida; [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-lia-aida-5098[/URL].[/QUOTE]Hi Kama: I have a huge respect for your opinion. Y9 u seem high on Lia, but I don't see a lot on her. I'm in town next weekend, and am thinking of her, Vivian Miler, or Kelly Morais. You have any more info on Lia's services? Also, English is important Thanks.

[QUOTE=Woorace;2861045]Hi Kama: I have a huge respect for your opinion. Y9 u seem high on Lia, but I don't see a lot on her. I'm in town next weekend, and am thinking of her, Vivian Miler, or Kelly Morais. You have any more info on Lia's services? Also, English is important Thanks.[/QUOTE]Out of the three you mention, I really only know Lia. She's not the only one that offers a very good and pleasurable time to those who meet her but very rarely is mentioned in the review boards. Another example of that is Bia / Ana Santos [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Bia-Santos-5091[/URL] + [URL]https://www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhante/AnaSantos[/URL] + [URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1179-ana-santos-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL] .

Lia [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Lia-Aida-5098[/URL] as I said before, is a really beautiful Bangla Desh girl, very sweet and willing to attend to all your desires. She does BBBJ, loves DATY and apart from massage offers FS. A true and dedicated GFE... and she is a perfect English speaker!

I recently visited Genuine Tantric for a 'tantric' massage at a cost of 150 for an hour, seeing a lady called Alexa (no longer there):

[URL]https://www.genuine-tantric.com/en/contacts[/URL]

In a nutshell, it was terrible and I do not recommend.

I can totally understand any criticism my way for visiting this place in the first instance, particularly when I've expressed that the price is terrible value for money given that you can see an outcall escort for the same price. There is also plenty of information on this board about ladies and establishments who may offer FS alongside the massage. Unfortunately, sometimes we do things that don't make much sense. I had just arrived in Lisbon, was fairly tired from a busy week at home and this place was walking distance (I had actually provisionally booked sessions with ladies who provide FS+ massage but just didn't have the energy to go when I arrived in Lisbon).

Alexa had caught my eye on the GT website. She is no longer on the website so I guess she has now moved on. Told me she had been there for a few months. Wouldn't be surprised if there have been complaints about her service. Alarm bells were ringing when she took 10 minutes to return to the room after I handed over the money, and I was given a very frustrating service. She had a bit of an entitled attitude, didn't allow any mutual touching whatsoever and kept out of reach with her body positioning. She even made a comment along the lines of her being in charge and us obeying her instructions. I can't tell you how ripped off I feel having paid that type of price for a massage in which the masseuse orders us to remain totally passive. She avoided any form of tantric massage when I was on my back.

If you look at their website, it is easy to see how a lot of tourists probably get sucked in to these type of places. I gather they keep pretty busy, which can give some ladies the ammunition to provide lacklustre service. There is no excuse for those of us privy to reviews and intel.

I did actually have a decent tantric massage here last year, which I reported on, but had said I still wouldn't return for the reasons above. There may be other ladies who do provide a decent massage, but in my book once you get one bad experience at a house, you don't return. The way I view it is that the place isn't monitoring closely enough the service provided by the ladies.

I have made a strong promise to myself not to return here, and pray I don't have another brain fart!

Fortunately, I had some good sessions with escorts (all EP ladies). Will report later.

Another venue which is centrally located. Isn't there a sense that such easily acessible venues can afford to give lousy service, as opposed to those that require long rides?

About a year ago, I mentioned Gabriela Sanchez [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-gabriela-sanchez-4468[/URL] as a great find in the "MILF department": "A petite, Brazilian self confessed 47 year old lady (but with a very younger body and NO silcone added! Gabriela is a pure GFE specimen who doesn't refuse to kiss and kiss and kiss, will suck you dry (sweet and slow BBBJTC) til you explode in her mouth, goes wild with DATY (occasionally she may surprise you with a squirt) and offers A-Level". She hasn't lost any of her exquisite talents but, if possible, has perfected all of them.

Another one is Patricia Santos [URL]https://www.classificadosx.net/pt/anuncio/20-mulheres-lisboa/421062-patricia-santos[/URL] + [URL]https://www.portuas.com/acompanhantes/lisboa/estou-pronta-para-oferecer-lhes-uma-experiencia-deliciosa-id-zeh7w[/URL] + [URL]https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/patricia-santos[/URL] , also Brazilian (mind you, I'm not a militant fan of Brazilian girls), 40 something and an amazing sword swallower, eager for DATY (squirting included) and ready and willing for A-Level.

[QUOTE=Ben890;2859084]Hey guys, thanks for the great information you are sharing here.

May I ask you for some advise.

Does anyone know this escort service or the lady?

[URL]https://escortslineeurope.com/modelos/natasha-pires/[/URL]

From my point of view it looks like fake because she seems to be too perfect and can't find any information about the agency or her.[/QUOTE]Hi Ben, yes Natasha is real, she is verify in [URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/natasha-pires/612844/[/URL] and the agency too.

Is a new agency with many beatiful girls in Lisboa and Oporto: [URL]https://escortslineeurope.com/[/URL].

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[QUOTE=Ocean12;2862417]Hi ExExpatriate, yes Natasha is real, she is verify in [URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/natasha-pires/612844/[/URL] and the agency too.

Is a new agency with many beatiful girls in Lisboa and Oporto: [URL]https://escortslineeurope.com/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Too Good to be True. Have you personally experienced her, or the Agency. I see no reviews of any of their ladies on the Portugal Review boards. Maybe I will take one for the team when I am there this weekend.

Yes, there may be something in that.

During my trip I actually enquired with other massage places who were also centrally located and easily accessible, Tantric Moments and Delirio spa. I had no intention of having a service, but they were walking distance and I wanted to see what they would say when I asked about a 'relaxing' massage with the appropriate hints. Both places were very busy, and it wasn't even peak time. No immediate appointments were available, and if you mentioned specific girls they gave very specific and limited slots for their availability. The answer to a 'relaxing' massage option was negative, as expected.

I've said before that I consider paying 150 (or more!) for a massage to be poor value for money in Lisbon, unless you're getting some FS such as at Nuru spa, but you'll pay more than 150 there. Even more frustrating when you get a masseuse like Alexa at Genuine Tantric!

There must be a lot of tourists around going to these places and willing to pay these sums, as I can't see locals frequenting these places too much?

[QUOTE=XXL;2861829]Another venue which is centrally located. Isn't there a sense that such easily acessible venues can afford to give lousy service, as opposed to those that require long rides?[/QUOTE]

I know for a hard fact that some of those "verified" profiles have fake photos, so I put zero reliance on that ad site.

As for this reply, well, it is suspect when someone comes into a forum and literally the only thing they do is vouch for something that is already suspicious. Just saying.

Maybe she is on the up and up, and maybe the agency is a good one. But nobody reliable has first-hand knowledge of either, and the sources available are very much not reliable.

[QUOTE=Ocean12;2862416]Hi Ben, yes Natasha is real, she is verify in [URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/natasha-pires/612844/[/URL] and the agency too.

Is a new agency with many beatiful girls in Lisboa and Oporto: [URL]https://escortslineeurope.com/[/URL].[/QUOTE]

I'll make the points again.

First, Portugal has four local, excellent photo-verified sites, plus a couple more that are OK. They are very well known to anyone working there, so when anybody chooses to entirely bypass them while doing business in Portugal, it should at least be considered a yellow flag.

Second, I know that photo-verified thing on Euroescortgirls is not solid, because I've seen profiles there with blatantly fake pics that were "verified. " Fake as in I know where they came from, and that ain't her.

Third, a guy who comes in for the sole purpose of plugging the escorts of a new agency (all four current posts do that), while not even actually offering a proper review, has "fake" written all over it.

So until I see something with some validity, that agency and it's girls are covered in red flags, snapping in the breeze.

[QUOTE=Ocean12;2862765]I met Natasha today and it's like the photos, a fantastic woman. From that agency I had already been with Diana as it's probably the best blowjob of my life. She has a review on eurogirl, see here [URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/diana-castro/609333/[/URL].

I loved being with both Diana and Natasha![/QUOTE]

Yes, they don't seem to understand that their antics makes people less likely to book one of the ladies, not more likely.

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2862882]I'll make the points again.

First, Portugal has four local, excellent photo-verified sites, plus a couple more that are OK. They are very well known to anyone working there, so when anybody chooses to entirely bypass them while doing business in Portugal, it should at least be considered a yellow flag.

Second, I know that photo-verified thing on Euroescortgirls is not solid, because I've seen profiles there with blatantly fake pics that were "verified. " Fake as in I know where they came from, and that ain't her.

Third, a guy who comes in for the sole purpose of plugging the escorts of a new agency (all four current posts do that), while not even actually offering a proper review, has "fake" written all over it.

So until I see something with some validity, that agency and it's girls are covered in red flags, snapping in the breeze.[/QUOTE]

There was a new review on the local forum today of two girls from the new agency. The dude did a duo. He isn't a veteran, but with 6 positive and 1 neuteal, he definitely isn't fake. Neither girl was under inquiry here, so no need to repeat, but he was satisfied. So, the pics are probably reliable.

I spent an hour outcall with Ines, who has been around quite some time in the Lisbon area.

[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]

Really great time with her. Small and petite, and all-natural, just the way I like them. She stayed a little less than an hour, and gave a very nice body to body massage, and is very oral. Excellent kisser, excellent deep BBBJ, and a great personality to match. I really enjoyed my time with her and repeat no question. She will do outcall, or also works out of one of the local spas, where she rents a room. Contact her on her website phone number. I'm very happy I chose her. On a scale of 10, I'd rate her a 7. 5 in looks, a 10 in personality, and a 9 in performance, which I don't give out often.

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2862882]First, Portugal has four local, excellent photo-verified sites, plus a couple more that are OK.[/QUOTE]Do you care to share some links?

They are named repeatedly, including by me. And not that long ago.

Seriously. Just pan back some pages. Geez.

[QUOTE=NaughtyGuru;2864064]Do you care to share some links?[/QUOTE]

Hi guys,

I'm new to this site, but I've been searching around a bit on this and the local board the last couple of days. I'm going to Lisbon I a few weeks and I was wondering if someone could help me find some nice girls for my stay. I'm hoping I have time to visit 2-3 girls, and I can do both incall and outcall and the girls that have caught my attention so far is.

They are not in any order, except that Milena is the one I want to see the most, both from pics and reviews.

Milena Bocelli:

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-milena-bocelli-4049[/URL]

Malu Mello:

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-malu-mello-3880[/URL]

Anny Reis:

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-anny-reis-6062[/URL]

Yara Cohen: (would love to have some more info about her, only found 1 review on the local board).

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-yara-cohen-4950[/URL]

Jade Silva:

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-jade-silva-4633[/URL]

Patricia Navarro:

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-patricia-navarro-3827[/URL]

Isadora Marques:

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-isadora-marques-7677[/URL]

Debora Dias:

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/debora-dias/[/URL]

Isis Lisboa:

[URL]https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/isis-lisboa[/URL]

So over to what I'm looking for in a session.

Service: CIM (not a must), BBBJ, GFE (not a must), Eroticmassage (not a must, but maybe you can recommend someone just for massage), Sloppy BBBJ (not a must but I really like it, DT (not a must).

Age: 22-35 (preferred can be lower and higher).

Height: 160-170 (preferred can be slightly higher and lower).

Breasts: Prefer natural and perky, but I don't mind if they are fake as long as they are well done. Also I prefer the nipples to be medium size.

Ass: Natural, not a fan of fake ones, tho I haven't encountered so many, but in general I prefer them to not be to wide. I would say I like Yara's and Jade's ass the most out of these girls.

What's most important to me is that they try to enjoy our time together and that they don't time waste during the session.

I would appreciate it if you have any recommendations for me, about any of these girls or if there is someone else you think I would like that's similar to some of these girls. I hope I added enough info, if not please let me know if there is anything I can add on. Thanks for reading and have a nice day.

Patricia Navarro is widely adored, and is currently doing a duo, advertised on Portalprivado.

[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/model/isabela-e-patricia[/URL]

I've been with Isis Lisboa a couple of times. She is a great veteran Lisbon lady, although her English is third-rate. The one thing I want to raise there is she primarily advertises on Portalprivado. That Mulheres ad uses pictures from like four or five years ago (although she is the same). Her ad on Portalprivado is off, which probably means she is back in Brazil or gone to Switzerland or indisposed. You can ping her from the other ad, sure, but don't plan your day around getting a response.

[QUOTE=Jens08;2864355]Hi guys,

I'm new to this site, but I've been searching around a bit on this and the local board the last couple of days. I'm going to Lisbon I a few weeks and I was wondering if someone could help me find some nice girls for my stay. I'm hoping I have time to visit 2-3 girls, and I can do both incall and outcall and the girls that have caught my attention so far is.

They are not in any order, except that Milena is the one I want to see the most, both from pics and reviews.

Milena Bocelli:

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-milena-bocelli-4049[/URL]

Malu Mello:

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-malu-mello-3880[/URL]

Anny Reis:

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-anny-reis-6062[/URL]

Yara Cohen: (would love to have some more info about her, only found 1 review on the local board).

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-yara-cohen-4950[/URL]

Jade Silva:

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-jade-silva-4633[/URL]

Patricia Navarro:

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-patricia-navarro-3827[/URL]

Isadora Marques:

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-isadora-marques-7677[/URL]

Debora Dias:

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/debora-dias/[/URL]

Isis Lisboa:

[URL]https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/isis-lisboa[/URL]

So over to what I'm looking for in a session.

Service: CIM (not a must), BBBJ, GFE (not a must), Eroticmassage (not a must, but maybe you can recommend someone just for massage), Sloppy BBBJ (not a must but I really like it, DT (not a must).

Age: 22-35 (preferred can be lower and higher).

Height: 160-170 (preferred can be slightly higher and lower).

Breasts: Prefer natural and perky, but I don't mind if they are fake as long as they are well done. Also I prefer the nipples to be medium size.

Ass: Natural, not a fan of fake ones, tho I haven't encountered so many, but in general I prefer them to not be to wide. I would say I like Yara's and Jade's ass the most out of these girls.

What's most important to me is that they try to enjoy our time together and that they don't time waste during the session.

I would appreciate it if you have any recommendations for me, about any of these girls or if there is someone else you think I would like that's similar to some of these girls. I hope I added enough info, if not please let me know if there is anything I can add on. Thanks for reading and have a nice day.[/QUOTE]

Your list is a good one. Your desired services are pretty standard and should be met by most any positively reviewed Lisbon escort.

For what it is worth, a reviewer on the Toronto escort review board, saw and really liked Patricia Navarro, and in fact liked her better than the Escort Privada ladies that he saw.

[QUOTE=Jens08;2864355]Hi guys,

I'm new to this site, but I've been searching around a bit on this and the local board the last couple of days. I'm going to Lisbon I a few weeks and I was wondering if someone could help me find some nice girls for my stay. I'm hoping I have time to visit 2-3 girls, and I can do both incall and outcall and the girls that have caught my attention so far is.

They are not in any order, except that Milena is the one I want to see the most, both from pics and reviews.

Milena Bocelli:

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-milena-bocelli-4049[/URL]

Malu Mello:

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-malu-mello-3880[/URL]

Anny Reis:

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-anny-reis-6062[/URL]

Yara Cohen: (would love to have some more info about her, only found 1 review on the local board).

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-yara-cohen-4950[/URL]

Jade Silva:

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-jade-silva-4633[/URL]

Patricia Navarro:

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-patricia-navarro-3827[/URL]

Isadora Marques:

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-isadora-marques-7677[/URL]

Debora Dias:

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/debora-dias/[/URL]

Isis Lisboa:

[URL]https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/isis-lisboa[/URL]

So over to what I'm looking for in a session.

Service: CIM (not a must), BBBJ, GFE (not a must), Eroticmassage (not a must, but maybe you can recommend someone just for massage), Sloppy BBBJ (not a must but I really like it, DT (not a must).

Age: 22-35 (preferred can be lower and higher).

Height: 160-170 (preferred can be slightly higher and lower).

Breasts: Prefer natural and perky, but I don't mind if they are fake as long as they are well done. Also I prefer the nipples to be medium size.

Ass: Natural, not a fan of fake ones, tho I haven't encountered so many, but in general I prefer them to not be to wide. I would say I like Yara's and Jade's ass the most out of these girls.

What's most important to me is that they try to enjoy our time together and that they don't time waste during the session.

I would appreciate it if you have any recommendations for me, about any of these girls or if there is someone else you think I would like that's similar to some of these girls. I hope I added enough info, if not please let me know if there is anything I can add on. Thanks for reading and have a nice day.[/QUOTE]

Can anyone recommend an outstanding MILF escort? Should be over 40 slim, really beautiful, classy and super sexy and speak english. Thanks.

Recently we had a post here, where the guy said an EP girl charged him 200 e for the hour. Given that one of the virtues of EP is their clearly stated, flat rates, it was a pretty useless review: I knew he either asked for extra services, that he said nothing about or (less likely) got snookered.

I may have figured out what all that was about. I read a review recently where an EP girl wanted +50 euros for a late night fee, because it was well after midnight. He balked, and called an independent. But it made me think, maybe that was how the dude got hit with 200. Or maybe he asked for anal and didn't mention that either. Whatever it was, the review was not very helpful.

A late night surcharge would be new to me, but it would fit with EP's way of doing business. This is where not mentioning things like that you called at 2 in the morning or being outraged that you were in an Air BnB in Queluz when griping that she wanted an taxi fee matters. This is about information to help make choices.

There's a new location called Artemis Lisbon Spa: [URL]https://artemis-spa.pt/[/URL].

Is there any intel if they provide full service or whether full service could be negotiated privately in chambers?

[QUOTE=BrownEyes;2864762]Can anyone recommend an outstanding MILF escort? Should be over 40 slim, really beautiful, classy and super sexy and speak english. Thanks.[/QUOTE]THE MILF right now in Lisbon is Gabriela Sanchez [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-gabriela-sanchez-4468[/URL] . I've raved about her before but it will be enough to say she's an avid kisser and offers great BBBJTC, DATY (a courtesy squirt may happen) and A-Level.

Her flatmate, Myara [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-myara-4943[/URL] , is also a very good option even if she's not such a great kisser. BBBJ, A-Level and DATY available. Both her and Gabriela are exactly like what their photos show.

Not in the same level but still quite good, Ana Sofia [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-ana-sofia-8084[/URL] and Bella Azevedo [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-bella-azevedo-7142[/URL] (she says she's 38 but is really a very sexy 40 something) may also be considered.

I'm not sure which ones may be fluent in English but I'm sure that will be nothing an online tranalator won't solve.

I was about to chime in, but mostly to say Kama is the guy to ask about that!

Kama -- what about Elena Silva? You used to sing her praises as well.

[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2864943]THE MILF right now in Lisbon is Gabriela Sanchez [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-gabriela-sanchez-4468[/URL] . I've raved about her before but it will be enough to say she's an avid kisser and offers great BBBJTC, DATY (a courtesy squirt may happen) and A-Level.

Her flatmate, Myara [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-myara-4943[/URL] , is also a very good option even if she's not such a great kisser. BBBJ, A-Level and DATY available. Both her and Gabriela are exactly like what their photos show.

Not in the same level but still quite good, Ana Sofia [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-ana-sofia-8084[/URL] and Bella Azevedo [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-bella-azevedo-7142[/URL] (she says she's 38 but is really a very sexy 40 something) may also be considered.

I'm not sure which ones may be fluent in English but I'm sure that will be nothing an online tranalator won't solve.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2864943]THE MILF right now in Lisbon is Gabriela Sanchez [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-gabriela-sanchez-4468[/URL] . I've raved about her before but it will be enough to say she's an avid kisser and offers great BBBJTC, DATY (a courtesy squirt may happen) and A-Level.

Her flatmate, Myara [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-myara-4943[/URL] , is also a very good option even if she's not such a great kisser. BBBJ, A-Level and DATY available. Both her and Gabriela are exactly like what their photos show.

Not in the same level but still quite good, Ana Sofia [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-ana-sofia-8084[/URL] and Bella Azevedo [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-bella-azevedo-7142[/URL] (she says she's 38 but is really a very sexy 40 something) may also be considered.

I'm not sure which ones may be fluent in English but I'm sure that will be nothing an online tranalator won't solve.[/QUOTE]Thank you Kama. Pity not possible to form a view on how good looking Gabriela is. Any view on that out of 10 ? No english is a bit of a problem though. Bella looks sexy, though again no english.

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2864971]I was about to chime in, but mostly to say Kama is the guy to ask about that!

Kama -- what about Elena Silva? You used to sing her praises as well.[/QUOTE]Picked this lady out before --what a figure! But again no English it seems.

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2864971]
Kama -- what about Elena Silva? You used to sing her praises as well.[/QUOTE]The Russian Elena Silva, yeah [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-elena-silva-3018[/URL] She was / is great but I haven't been with her for quite some time. And I imagined she may be a bit off limits since she's now a 50 something (and counting) lady. But, if that's not a problem, she surely could be an option. And, yes, she doesn't speak English...

[QUOTE=BrownEyes;2864973]Thank you Kama. Pity not possible to form a view on how good looking Gabriela is. Any view on that out of 10 ? No english is a bit of a problem though. Bella looks sexy, though again no english.[/QUOTE]That's not an easy thing to do since we may have different points of view concerning beauty. But, ok, let's say... a 7. I don't know about Bella's English skills, the only one out of those four that I believe may speak some English is Ana Sofia. Or (?) Myara...

Just an update after a recent visit to Lisbon.

Went for a massage in Genuine Tantric Saldahna. Booked 1 hour b2 b with 1 of the ladies there. Half way through she gave the option to massage herself which I obliged. There were no limits with what she wanted to do. Touching all over, kissing (no FK), etc. Knock on the door as we ran out of time so she finished me off pretty quickly. Left very happy!

It was so good that I booked with her again for the next day and she seemed very happy to see me. Booked for 1. 5 hours this time so that I didn't have the dreaded knock mid way through again. This time I brought by own equipment. Massage started with b2 b, turn over and it was my turn to massage her again. Massage turned into touching all over, kissing (this time she allowed FK). I suggested that we go all the way and she agreed on the condition that we were extremely quiet as it was "frowned upon" by the managers Multiple positions later we both finished very happy. Continued to the shower again for more FK and a nice shared shower.

Happy to share more details if needed but not on the open forum. Not a regular poster here so if PMs are allowed then feel free to PM me for more info.

[QUOTE=StarryGuy;2865258]Just an update after a recent visit to Lisbon.

Went for a massage in Genuine Tantric Saldahna. Booked 1 hour b2 b with 1 of the ladies there. Half way through she gave the option to massage herself which I obliged. There were no limits with what she wanted to do. Touching all over, kissing (no FK), etc. Knock on the door as we ran out of time so she finished me off pretty quickly. Left very happy!

It was so good that I booked with her again for the next day and she seemed very happy to see me. Booked for 1. 5 hours this time so that I didn't have the dreaded knock mid way through again. This time I brought by own equipment. Massage started with b2 b, turn over and it was my turn to massage her again. Massage turned into touching all over, kissing (this time she allowed FK). I suggested that we go all the way and she agreed on the condition that we were extremely quiet as it was "frowned upon" by the managers Multiple positions later we both finished very happy. Continued to the shower again for more FK and a nice shared shower.

Happy to share more details if needed but not on the open forum. Not a regular poster here so if PMs are allowed then feel free to PM me for more info.[/QUOTE]That sounds great SG, I would like to know the name of the lady but I can't pm you. I did email that parlour a few weeks ago but they just ignored me.

[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2865089]That's not an easy thing to do since we may have different points of view concerning beauty. But, ok, let's say... a 7. I don't know about Bella's English skills, the only one out of those four that I believe may speak some English is Ana Sofia. Or (?) Myara...[/QUOTE]Many thanks for that KL.

Good for you. Scoring something special and against house policy is always a plus. Also, good that you did NOT share her name. No need to get her in trouble with the house.

[QUOTE=StarryGuy;2865258]Just an update after a recent visit to Lisbon.

Went for a massage in Genuine Tantric Saldahna. Booked 1 hour b2 b with 1 of the ladies there. Half way through she gave the option to massage herself which I obliged. There were no limits with what she wanted to do. Touching all over, kissing (no FK), etc. Knock on the door as we ran out of time so she finished me off pretty quickly. Left very happy!

It was so good that I booked with her again for the next day and she seemed very happy to see me. Booked for 1. 5 hours this time so that I didn't have the dreaded knock mid way through again. This time I brought by own equipment. Massage started with b2 b, turn over and it was my turn to massage her again. Massage turned into touching all over, kissing (this time she allowed FK). I suggested that we go all the way and she agreed on the condition that we were extremely quiet as it was "frowned upon" by the managers Multiple positions later we both finished very happy. Continued to the shower again for more FK and a nice shared shower.

Happy to share more details if needed but not on the open forum. Not a regular poster here so if PMs are allowed then feel free to PM me for more info.[/QUOTE]

How much did you pay for the 1 hour and 1. 5 hour?

Have you tried the one in Chiado? Girls seem to be prettier there.

[QUOTE=StarryGuy;2865258]Just an update after a recent visit to Lisbon.

Went for a massage in Genuine Tantric Saldahna. Booked 1 hour b2 b with 1 of the ladies there. Half way through she gave the option to massage herself which I obliged. There were no limits with what she wanted to do. Touching all over, kissing (no FK), etc. Knock on the door as we ran out of time so she finished me off pretty quickly. Left very happy!

It was so good that I booked with her again for the next day and she seemed very happy to see me. Booked for 1. 5 hours this time so that I didn't have the dreaded knock mid way through again. This time I brought by own equipment. Massage started with b2 b, turn over and it was my turn to massage her again. Massage turned into touching all over, kissing (this time she allowed FK). I suggested that we go all the way and she agreed on the condition that we were extremely quiet as it was "frowned upon" by the managers Multiple positions later we both finished very happy. Continued to the shower again for more FK and a nice shared shower.

Happy to share more details if needed but not on the open forum. Not a regular poster here so if PMs are allowed then feel free to PM me for more info.[/QUOTE]

L'Essence Spa moved into central Lisbon last week. The spa is pretty popular with the locals -- FS is on the menu universally, and the roster is pretty much all girls who score 7 or 8 out of 10 on the local board. From the reports I've seen, a 1 hour massage with FS ending is currently 120.

Nuru massage with FS comes up often in this thread, and I always point to this spa with the caveat that it used to be in Alges. Now it is in a location as easy as any other thing we recommend here.

That sounds fantastic.

Whilst I'm not naive enough to think this type of thing never happens, I'm really surprised at hearing about it at that particular place. I've been a couple of times myself over the past year or so, and popped in another couple of times to discuss options and house rules. There have also been reports on the local board about this place, admittedly not too many but enough to form a good opinion. The feeling was that not only did the girls not engage in any form of FS, but they had been trained to understand that taking 150+ for a 'massage' was a far easier way of making money than engaging in any form of FS, with FS almost viewed as being for people lower down (indeed the lady I saw last year was speaking in those terms). They actually charge €250 for a 'reverse' massage, basically what you got the first time but with no kissing. It's daylight robbery in my opinion.

I'm guessing the girl took a liking to you and her hormones were in the right spot!

Still not a place I'd recommend after my last visit, but it's good of you to offer details of this particular lady to others.

[QUOTE=StarryGuy;2865258]Just an update after a recent visit to Lisbon.

Went for a massage in Genuine Tantric Saldahna. Booked 1 hour b2 b with 1 of the ladies there. Half way through she gave the option to massage herself which I obliged. There were no limits with what she wanted to do. Touching all over, kissing (no FK), etc. Knock on the door as we ran out of time so she finished me off pretty quickly. Left very happy!

It was so good that I booked with her again for the next day and she seemed very happy to see me. Booked for 1. 5 hours this time so that I didn't have the dreaded knock mid way through again. This time I brought by own equipment. Massage started with b2 b, turn over and it was my turn to massage her again. Massage turned into touching all over, kissing (this time she allowed FK). I suggested that we go all the way and she agreed on the condition that we were extremely quiet as it was "frowned upon" by the managers Multiple positions later we both finished very happy. Continued to the shower again for more FK and a nice shared shower.

Happy to share more details if needed but not on the open forum. Not a regular poster here so if PMs are allowed then feel free to PM me for more info.[/QUOTE]

Wonderful if that's the case. Not only the location but the price as Nuru Spa appears to be a minimum of 180 for an hour if you want FS.

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2865441]L'Essence Spa moved into central Lisbon last week. The spa is pretty popular with the locals -- FS is on the menu universally, and the roster is pretty much all girls who score 7 or 8 out of 10 on the local board. From the reports I've seen, a 1 hour massage with FS ending is currently 120.

Nuru massage with FS comes up often in this thread, and I always point to this spa with the caveat that it used to be in Alges. Now it is in a location as easy as any other thing we recommend here.[/QUOTE]

Also been a few times before this visit too! But a few years back instead of now and absolutely no extras were on the table. I think I must have struck gold this time around and caught her at a good time! I didn't actually know that there was an option for the reverse massage but the price of 250 is crazy for that!

Will hopefully return in the next few months to see her again! Will report back if so!

Apart from L'Essence Spa, do we know of any more that might offer FS? The thrill of not knowing if it will or won't happen is pretty exciting so I've found!

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Harry1217;2865519]That sounds fantastic.

Whilst I'm not naive enough to think this type of thing never happens, I'm really surprised at hearing about it at that particular place. I've been a couple of times myself over the past year or so, and popped in another couple of times to discuss options and house rules. There have also been reports on the local board about this place, admittedly not too many but enough to form a good opinion. The feeling was that not only did the girls not engage in any form of FS, but they had been trained to understand that taking 150+ for a 'massage' was a far easier way of making money than engaging in any form of FS, with FS almost viewed as being for people lower down (indeed the lady I saw last year was speaking in those terms). They actually charge 250 for a 'reverse' massage, basically what you got the first time but with no kissing. It's daylight robbery in my opinion.

I'm guessing the girl took a liking to you and her hormones were in the right spot!

Still not a place I'd recommend after my last visit, but it's good of you to offer details of this particular lady to others.[/QUOTE]

The 250 for a reverse massage at Genuine Tantric (which they label a 'vice versa' massage) is the tourist rate. Locals report getting it for 160.

The place that's been mentioned the most for FS is Nuru Spa:

[URL]https://www.nuruspas.com/en/cascais-lisboa[/URL]

You'll need to tell the receptionist you want a 'relaxing massage' and ask him or her which ladies will entertain that. The rate at Nuru Spa for a relaxing massage was 180 a few months ago. However, there's no guarantee that there will be ladies offering relaxing massage at the particular time you visit, as there is the odd report of having no luck (including by me last year).

I agree there is a certain thrill in the 'will she won't she' factor, but it's really not good value for money imo if she turns out to be a 'won't she'.

[QUOTE=StarryGuy;2865679]Also been a few times before this visit too! But a few years back instead of now and absolutely no extras were on the table. I think I must have struck gold this time around and caught her at a good time! I didn't actually know that there was an option for the reverse massage but the price of 250 is crazy for that!

Will hopefully return in the next few months to see her again! Will report back if so!

Apart from L'Essence Spa, do we know of any more that might offer FS? The thrill of not knowing if it will or won't happen is pretty exciting so I've found!

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately, you are right there KL. In my current local, I met a mature the other day who has excellent reviews. I didn't find her attractive but her BJ skills were top drawer so thankfully I got over the line. When I read the word 'pretty', an alarm bell should probably have gone off. Much easier to be 'beautiful' to most, when the lady hasn't reached 40.

[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2865089]That's not an easy thing to do since we may have different points of view concerning beauty. But, ok, let's say... a 7. I don't know about Bella's English skills, the only one out of those four that I believe may speak some English is Ana Sofia. Or (?) Myara...[/QUOTE]

How is a request for WS generally received by the ladies in Lisbon? Is it seen as a bit 'weirdo' but doable or perfectly par for the course? Any advice welcomed.

Would anyone have any insight into these two ladies;.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-leti-mel-8177[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-noa-gomes-7710[/URL]

Many thanks.

[QUOTE=BrownEyes;2866195]Would anyone have any insight into these two ladies;.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-leti-mel-8177[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-noa-gomes-7710[/URL]

Many thanks.[/QUOTE]I couldn't find any reviews of either of them on the local board. Noa Gomes is an escortprivada lady. One guy who planned to see her posted negative things on the local board under her name because he didn't like the booking process, but he never actually saw her, and was dealing with the booker, not Noa.

With respect to Golden Showers, if you look at the profiles for EP ladies, they list which ladies offer it, and the upsells.

Many independent ladies likely also offer that, you just have to ask. Apartadox doesn't allow much explicit advertising. Many Lisbon escorts are fetish friendly, and you can ask them specific questions when you converse with them on WhatsApp.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2866244]I couldn't find any reviews of either of them on the local board. Noa Gomes is an escortprivada lady. One guy who planned to see her posted negative things on the local board under her name because he didn't like the booking process, but he never actually saw her, and was dealing with the booker, not Noa.

With respect to Golden Showers, if you look at the profiles for EP ladies, they list which ladies offer it, and the upsells.

Many independent ladies likely also offer that, you just have to ask. Apartadox doesn't allow much explicit advertising. Many Lisbon escorts are fetish friendly, and you can ask them specific questions when you converse with them on WhatsApp.[/QUOTE]Noa is the former Catarina Rodrigues, who I reviewed (it wasn't favourable).

Great, you have seen Noa!

Can you please confirm if each / any of the below links are here;.

1. [URL]https://www.modelmanagement.com/model/catarina-rodrigues-2/[/URL].

2. [URL]https://secrethostess.com/327518/[/URL].

3. [URL]https://escortsbelgrano.com/catarina-rodrigues[/URL].

Noa is supposed to have just turned 21 . Does that look right to you?

Many thanks indeed.

[QUOTE=PER23;2866422]Noa is the former Catarina Rodrigues, who I reviewed (it wasn't favourable).[/QUOTE]

Thanks M.

Yes, I am concerned with Apartodox that one is not dealing directly with the escort. Indeed, some of the numbers for the girls are the same as on some escort agency sites like EP. You just don't know.

Yes, I can see that where the escort advertises or is advertised on multiple sites, the do specify services including WS but my query is really whether that is a service offered but they feel they just have to in order to cater for a slightly weirdo client market?

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2866244]I couldn't find any reviews of either of them on the local board. Noa Gomes is an escortprivada lady. One guy who planned to see her posted negative things on the local board under her name because he didn't like the booking process, but he never actually saw her, and was dealing with the booker, not Noa.

With respect to Golden Showers, if you look at the profiles for EP ladies, they list which ladies offer it, and the upsells.

Many independent ladies likely also offer that, you just have to ask. Apartadox doesn't allow much explicit advertising. Many Lisbon escorts are fetish friendly, and you can ask them specific questions when you converse with them on WhatsApp.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2860428]Here are a couple of possibilities.

This EP trio appears to meet your interests. As to whether every dream comes true, who knows. The angles required to double penetrate a girl in real life isn't easy but it might be doable with you in doggie style anal and the other girl underneath with a flexible strap-on. Portugal is a liberal country and you could bring a strap-on if you want. The girls will insist on using a condom with it, and to be extra safe, you might just want to have it in an unopened package. Both Francisca and Iza advertise anal sex, and anal is confirmed in Francisca's reviews. Francisca's local board reviews say she is indeed a girl next door with natural breasts. Perhaps KrisMonger can let us know if Iza's breasts are enhanced, and if the subject of anal sex came up with her.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/francisca-iza/[/URL]

The other EP duo perfectly fits your bill except for your aversion to enhanced breasts. Alexandra very much has noticeable implants. Alexandra regularly does anal, where Sara does not. They are real life friends who interact very well during a session, so having Sara do strap-on play with Alexandra would not be a problem.

In all scenarios, you will need to remind EP several times about bringing a strap-on and it doesn't hurt to list all of your desires.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/sara-alexandra/[/URL][/QUOTE]Hello!

Thank you for your message. It was helpfull, I prepare a return of experience from my past days in Lisbon.

Hello everyone,

I wanted to give you a little feedback on my experience last week in Lisbon.

Following Mongerer88's advice, I had a plan, but it didn't go exactly to plan. My basic idea was to spend 4 evenings for 4 different experiences:

- 2 h with Flora Neves.

- 1 h with Francisca & Iza.

- 2 h with Vivian Miller.

- 1 h with Sara & Alexandra.

First disappointment, when I got in touch with Flora, she announced that she was quitting the job for good and offered me other girls as an alternative. I was disappointed, but wished her all the best for the future.

I manage to make an appointment with Fransisca & Iza for the first evening:

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/francisca-iza/[/URL]

They're both very pretty, around 26-28 years old. Franscisca is Portuguese, looks like Jennifer Lawrence and speaks perfect English. It's hard to recognize her in the photos, but they seem to match (she has a few tattoos). Iza is Brazilian, and her skin is much more tanned than Fransisca's, giving our trio a sweet and salty edge. They both have crazy asses. Iza's breasts have undergone a reduction operation, which has left a few scars, while Fransisca's are a little "flabby". A bit disappointed with their tits, but their asses were way up there. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to guide them to get exactly what I was looking for. I have to say that I don't like scripted sex, and I like it when there's an element of feeling and improvisation. But I did really enjoy the session.

I had planned to spend the evening with Viviane, but she had a last-minute stroke and I couldn't see her. She wasn't sure if she'd be free for the next few days, so I was afraid I'd miss my first 2 choices, which were Flora and Viviane.

The next day, still unable to reach Sara:

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/lara-cortez/[/URL]

I engaged in a discussion with Lara Cortez, who happened to be available in the afternoon. She arrives at the house, and I see a very pretty girl of around 22-23, we chat for a few moments and the festivities begin. Once again I come across flabby breasts, probably due to rapid weight loss, but she's extremely athletic and it shows: her legs, buttocks and stomach are splendid, she's extremely available and offers a whole range of positions, each more exciting than the last. She's a sensual ball of energy. She's an intelligent and very mature girl for her age, she wants to stop working by the end of the year, and has a very elaborate professional plan. Well done to her.

During this meeting, I received a message from Viviane who suggested meeting me in the evening. I validate the meeting and there, I can tell you that I went to paradise.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/viviane-miler/[/URL]

During our meeting I asked her if she was available the next day and I validated a 2nd meeting with her, because everything was perfect, the sexual chemistry, her look, the discussion, I simply think I fell in love at first sight. Viviane is a 20-year-old Brazilian girl with curly hair, bewitching blue / green eyes, and a rock voice worthy of a Jazz singer. White skin with small freckles of infinite softness. A body my friends. Just perfect, a wasp waist and an arch worthy of manga, a firm chest. Her attitude is perfect, she is sweet and seems to want to do everything to please me. And sexually, she's a bomb. Energy, desire, vice, smiles. In short, I'm in love: the.

Cheers!

Hello everyone,

I wanted to give you a little feedback on my experience last week in Lisbon.

Following Mongerer88's advice, I had a plan, but it didn't go exactly to plan. My basic idea was to spend 4 evenings for 4 different experiences:

- 2 h with Flora Neves.

- 1 h with Francisca & Iza.

- 2 h with Vivian Miller.

- 1 h with Sara & Alexandra.

First disappointment, when I got in touch with Flora, she announced that she was quitting the job for good and offered me other girls as an alternative. I was disappointed, but wished her all the best for the future.

I manage to make an appointment with Fransisca & Iza for the first evening:

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/francisca-iza/[/URL]

They're both very pretty, around 26-28 years old. Franscisca is Portuguese, looks like Jennifer Lawrence and speaks perfect English. It's hard to recognize her in the photos, but they seem to match (she has a few tattoos). Iza is Brazilian, and her skin is much more tanned than Fransisca's, giving our trio a sweet and salty edge. They both have crazy asses. Iza's breasts have undergone a reduction operation, which has left a few scars, while Fransisca's are a little "flabby". A bit disappointed with their tits, but their asses were way up there. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to guide them to get exactly what I was looking for. I have to say that I don't like scripted sex, and I like it when there's an element of feeling and improvisation. But I did really enjoy the session.

I had planned to spend the evening with Viviane, but she had a last-minute stroke and I couldn't see her. She wasn't sure if she'd be free for the next few days, so I was afraid I'd miss my first 2 choices, which were Flora and Viviane.

The next day, still unable to reach Sara:

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/lara-cortez/[/URL]

I engaged in a discussion with Lara Cortez, who happened to be available in the afternoon. She arrives at the house, and I see a very pretty girl of around 22-23, we chat for a few moments and the festivities begin. Once again I come across flabby breasts, probably due to rapid weight loss, but she's extremely athletic and it shows: her legs, buttocks and stomach are splendid, she's extremely available and offers a whole range of positions, each more exciting than the last. She's a sensual ball of energy. She's an intelligent and very mature girl for her age, she wants to stop working by the end of the year, and has a very elaborate professional plan. Well done to her.

During this meeting, I received a message from Viviane who suggested meeting me in the evening. I validate the meeting and there, I can tell you that I went to paradise.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/viviane-miler/[/URL]

During our meeting I asked her if she was available the next day and I validated a 2nd meeting with her, because everything was perfect, the sexual chemistry, her look, the discussion, I simply think I fell in love at first sight. Viviane is a 20-year-old Brazilian girl with curly hair, bewitching blue / green eyes, and a rock voice worthy of a Jazz singer. White skin with small freckles of infinite softness. A body my friends. Just perfect, a wasp waist and an arch worthy of manga, a firm chest. Her attitude is perfect, she is sweet and seems to want to do everything to please me. And sexually, she's a bomb. Energy, desire, vice, smiles. In short, I'm in love: the.

Sheers!

[QUOTE=PER23;2866422]Noa is the former Catarina Rodrigues, who I reviewed (it wasn't favourable).[/QUOTE]Thanks. With so many favorably reviewed ladies to choose from, great to know to pass on her.

[QUOTE=JustForFun13;2866448]Hello everyone,

I wanted to give you a little feedback on my experience last week in Lisbon.

Following Mongerer88's advice, I had a plan, but it didn't go exactly to plan. My basic idea was to spend 4 evenings for 4 different experiences:

- 2 h with Flora Neves.

- 1 h with Francisca & Iza.

- 2 h with Vivian Miller.

- 1 h with Sara & Alexandra.

First disappointment, when I got in touch with Flora, she announced that she was quitting the job for good and offered me other girls as an alternative. I was disappointed, but wished her all the best for the future.

I manage to make an appointment with Fransisca & Iza for the first evening:

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/francisca-iza/[/URL]

They're both very pretty, around 26-28 years old. Franscisca is Portuguese, looks like Jennifer Lawrence and speaks perfect English. It's hard to recognize her in the photos, but they seem to match (she has a few tattoos). Iza is Brazilian, and her skin is much more tanned than Fransisca's, giving our trio a sweet and salty edge. They both have crazy asses. Iza's breasts have undergone a reduction operation, which has left a few scars, while Fransisca's are a little "flabby". A bit disappointed with their tits, but their asses were way up there. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to guide them to get exactly what I was looking for. I have to say that I don't like scripted sex, and I like it when there's an element of feeling and improvisation. But I did really enjoy the session.

I had planned to spend the evening with Viviane, but she had a last-minute stroke and I couldn't see her. She wasn't sure if she'd be free for the next few days, so I was afraid I'd miss my first 2 choices, which were Flora and Viviane.

The next day, still unable to reach Sara:

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/lara-cortez/[/URL]

I engaged in a discussion with Lara Cortez, who happened to be available in the afternoon. She arrives at the house, and I see a very pretty girl of around 22-23, we chat for a few moments and the festivities begin. Once again I come across flabby breasts, probably due to rapid weight loss, but she's extremely athletic and it shows: her legs, buttocks and stomach are splendid, she's extremely available and offers a whole range of positions, each more exciting than the last. She's a sensual ball of energy. She's an intelligent and very mature girl for her age, she wants to stop working by the end of the year, and has a very elaborate professional plan. Well done to her.

During this meeting, I received a message from Viviane who suggested meeting me in the evening. I validate the meeting and there, I can tell you that I went to paradise.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/viviane-miler/[/URL]

During our meeting I asked her if she was available the next day and I validated a 2nd meeting with her, because everything was perfect, the sexual chemistry, her look, the discussion, I simply think I fell in love at first sight. Viviane is a 20-year-old Brazilian girl with curly hair, bewitching blue / green eyes, and a rock voice worthy of a Jazz singer. White skin with small freckles of infinite softness. A body my friends. Just perfect, a wasp waist and an arch worthy of manga, a firm chest. Her attitude is perfect, she is sweet and seems to want to do everything to please me. And sexually, she's a bomb. Energy, desire, vice, smiles. In short, I'm in love: the.

Sheers![/QUOTE]Great reviews. I've seen all of these ladies and Vivianne is the standout for sure. An innocent pretty face and a centrefold body.

Lara (formerly Camila Pereira) is a bit of a strange one. Great for one session, but that mature attitude turns to rudeness on follow up sessions, at least in my experience. Not a big deal if you don't plan to see her again.

Iza (formerly Matilde Ribeiro) is a bit of a dark horse at EP. I find her very attractive for a mature lady (she's around 36 but quite toned). English is weak but she delivers a great service on her own.

Too bad you missed out on Flora. Personally, I think Vivianne is better in bed but Flora looks like Winona Ryder in her prime.

Thanks for the reviews. Shame you couldn't meet Flora Neves. I saw her a few weeks ago and it was honestly one of the best sessions I've ever had in terms of the all-round experience (combination of her looks and the service).

I tried to see Viviane but she was fairly busy when I was there and couldn't agree a convenient time. But she's on my list again for next time!

[QUOTE=JustForFun13;2866448]Hello everyone,

I wanted to give you a little feedback on my experience last week in Lisbon.

Following Mongerer88's advice, I had a plan, but it didn't go exactly to plan. My basic idea was to spend 4 evenings for 4 different experiences:

- 2 h with Flora Neves.

- 1 h with Francisca & Iza.

- 2 h with Vivian Miller.

- 1 h with Sara & Alexandra.

First disappointment, when I got in touch with Flora, she announced that she was quitting the job for good and offered me other girls as an alternative. I was disappointed, but wished her all the best for the future.

I manage to make an appointment with Fransisca & Iza for the first evening:

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/francisca-iza/[/URL]

They're both very pretty, around 26-28 years old. Franscisca is Portuguese, looks like Jennifer Lawrence and speaks perfect English. It's hard to recognize her in the photos, but they seem to match (she has a few tattoos). Iza is Brazilian, and her skin is much more tanned than Fransisca's, giving our trio a sweet and salty edge. They both have crazy asses. Iza's breasts have undergone a reduction operation, which has left a few scars, while Fransisca's are a little "flabby". A bit disappointed with their tits, but their asses were way up there. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to guide them to get exactly what I was looking for. I have to say that I don't like scripted sex, and I like it when there's an element of feeling and improvisation. But I did really enjoy the session.

I had planned to spend the evening with Viviane, but she had a last-minute stroke and I couldn't see her. She wasn't sure if she'd be free for the next few days, so I was afraid I'd miss my first 2 choices, which were Flora and Viviane.

The next day, still unable to reach Sara:

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/lara-cortez/[/URL]

I engaged in a discussion with Lara Cortez, who happened to be available in the afternoon. She arrives at the house, and I see a very pretty girl of around 22-23, we chat for a few moments and the festivities begin. Once again I come across flabby breasts, probably due to rapid weight loss, but she's extremely athletic and it shows: her legs, buttocks and stomach are splendid, she's extremely available and offers a whole range of positions, each more exciting than the last. She's a sensual ball of energy. She's an intelligent and very mature girl for her age, she wants to stop working by the end of the year, and has a very elaborate professional plan. Well done to her.

During this meeting, I received a message from Viviane who suggested meeting me in the evening. I validate the meeting and there, I can tell you that I went to paradise.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/viviane-miler/[/URL]

During our meeting I asked her if she was available the next day and I validated a 2nd meeting with her, because everything was perfect, the sexual chemistry, her look, the discussion, I simply think I fell in love at first sight. Viviane is a 20-year-old Brazilian girl with curly hair, bewitching blue / green eyes, and a rock voice worthy of a Jazz singer. White skin with small freckles of infinite softness. A body my friends. Just perfect, a wasp waist and an arch worthy of manga, a firm chest. Her attitude is perfect, she is sweet and seems to want to do everything to please me. And sexually, she's a bomb. Energy, desire, vice, smiles. In short, I'm in love: the.

Sheers![/QUOTE]

Catching up on some reviews from a recent trip. All EP ladies who came to my hotel for 150 for an hour.

Flora Neves.

I had the pleasure of seeing Flora Neves, who in the last few days appears to have left the escort scene. I thought I would give some feedback on the very slim chance she returns.

In a nutshell, as good as it gets! A pretty girl. Bit of a 'girl next door' look but not many would be disappointed. She looks around 19-20 and is one of the few who I'd say actually looks better in the flesh. She has a bit of meat on her which I do like. As for the service, aside from her DFK being slightly restricted, nothing was off bounds although I didn't ask about anal or rimming. She's fetish friendly, there was great oral both ways, plenty of kissing (albeit not DFK) and she positioned herself during the intercourse to enable maximum penetration in all positions. Almost got the impression she was enjoying herself! No complaints from her about anything or saying that she was too sensitive etc etc. I gather that she had been escorting for over a year, so it was great that she was still enthusiastic. The part where she grabbed a pillow of her own will and went and kneeled on it near the long mirror, to give me a blowjob, will live long in the memory.

She said during the meet that she "doesn't need to escort" and was only doing minimal hours. A terrible shame that she's packed up altogether, I'm kicking myself that I didn't see her earlier. There doesn't appear to be an abundance of pretty young Portuguese girls who'll deliver all services with enthusiasm.

Debora Dias.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/debora-dias/[/URL]

Another very good meet for an hour. She bears a close resemblance to the EP pictures in the football top. Probably 20-22 years old. I was happy when I first saw her and equally happy when she undressed; perhaps I'd have preferred slightly more curves in an ideal world, with a bit less athleticism, but I didn't really have any complaints about her body.

A bit like Flora, service delivered with enthusiasm. The only slight downside was she wasn't comfortable with sucking of her nipples - she didn't say anything but kept moving her body slightly (and I was gentle). However, everything else was great; wonderful DFK, deep blowjob for a good 20 minutes with a great CIM finish at the end of the session, and comfortable with all positions! She asked if I wanted anal but I declined as I barely find the time for it on 1 hour meets, preferring other things. We went over the hour by a few minutes, with absolutely no clock watching.

A lovely girl and someone I'the probably see again (would definitely see if she was comfortable with us playing with her breasts).

Daniela Matos.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/daniela-matos/[/URL]

She was someone I saw purely on account of other ladies being unavailable. The lady I'd initially arranged to see messaged me in the morning to say she had to go to another city for the day (but gave me 7 or 8 hours' notice so no complaints), and other ladies I'd shortlisted were also unavailable (some of them already booked, some not working that day, and others no response).

Hard to predict her age; I'd guess around 30 but it's with no conviction. Daniela is not my type with the fake breasts, but she allowed her breasts to be played with freely. I have to say I wasn't too disappointed with the rest of her body - thick long hair, a nice ass, and a flat stomach. Facially she's neither pretty nor unattractive.

This was a highly energetic session, she liked it hard and kept encouraging me to pull her hair and slap her ass during the intercourse. Engaged in a bit of orgasm denial as well (she didn't actually orgasm at all!). Her blowjob was great, was able to direct her to going really deep to the extent she was almost gagging! I actually had to get her to go easy at one point as I didn't want to finish from the blowjob. I don't know if she offers CIM as I never got around to it, but I've got a feeling she doesn't as it's not listed in her online profiles.

I wouldn't see Daniela again as there are several other ladies I'm keen to see and find more attractive on the pics, but her service was very good.

Do you guys like Escort Privada especially because the site is in English? Is there some other even better site only in Portuguese (but which you'd rather not use on account of the language)? English is irrelevant for me, in fact I'd rather avoid the English connection as it might come at a premium, although it doesn't seem to be that much the case in the post just below, 150/hr for incall being a faire price.

One of the reasons we like EP here is directly tied to why so many locals ***** about it: it is outcall only. As visitors / foreigners, we already have hotels and rentals built into our expenses. The locals don't (and are probably hiding the hobby from wives / family / roommates). For them, outcall is a financial burden, and some bitterly resent that these hot Portuguese girls don't want to set themselves up as full timer incall girls (the usual misogynistic BS -- as if the woman in question doesn't have a choice in how she does sex work). For us, it's not a big deal.

Second, the majority of the Portuguese women working as escorts -- and especially the YOUNG women -- are doing EP as part timers. In fact, a noticeable chunk of Portuguese women doing any independent sex work that aren't EP are formerly of EP, incall or outcall. The bulk of incall escorts are Brasilian, plus a sprinkling of Africans and whatnot. So, if you want a European rendezvous and want to deal with a halfway reliable source, EP is your go to.

The English part has little to do with it. Some incall girls speak excellent English. Some EP girls don't speak a word of it. And the site being in English is wholly irrelevant.

[QUOTE=XXL;2866809]Do you guys like Escort Privada especially because the site is in English? Is there some other even better site only in Portuguese (but which you'd rather not use on account of the language)? English is irrelevant for me, in fact I'd rather avoid the English connection as it might come at a premium, although it doesn't seem to be that much the case in the post just below, 150/hr for incall being a faire price.[/QUOTE]

The site being in English is irrelevant; its' more about the credibility of the site, the expected price by choosing that site, and what the site tells you about their working location (incall or outcall).

I think you were implying that the EP ladies may all speak English, hence the reason for us choosing it; that definitely isn't the case as I've met a couple of ladies for whom hello and goodbye is almost the extent of their English vocab! In fact, under the 'languages' part of the profiles on EP, there are a some who only have Portuguese listed and they don't hide not speaking English.

I should add that I don't deliberately seek out EP ladies over ladies from other sites. In fact, a lady at the top of my list last time was someone who has never been on EP as far as I'm aware. However, there is no denying that if there were two ladies who had equally piqued my interest, with one from EP, I would plump for the EP lady all day every day. I like EP for four reasons; firstly I prefer outcall and I know EP is an outcall only site so there is no messing around or uncertainty with the initial comms, secondly the base price is fixed at 150 so there is no scope for tourist tax etc, thirdly EP is an agency so you can complain to someone if any aspect of the meet warrants it, and finally the vast majority of profiles are kept up to date with reliable pictures. I don't know how far we'd get with complaints but the option is there. I should add that the 'base' service for each lady is listed on her EP profile but I clarify everything I'm after on WhatsApp for added peace of mind.

[QUOTE=XXL;2866809]Do you guys like Escort Privada especially because the site is in English? Is there some other even better site only in Portuguese (but which you'd rather not use on account of the language)? English is irrelevant for me, in fact I'd rather avoid the English connection as it might come at a premium, although it doesn't seem to be that much the case in the post just below, 150/hr for incall being a faire price.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=XXL;2866809]Do you guys like Escort Privada especially because the site is in English? Is there some other even better site only in Portuguese (but which you'd rather not use on account of the language)? English is irrelevant for me, in fact I'd rather avoid the English connection as it might come at a premium, although it doesn't seem to be that much the case in the post just below, 150/hr for incall being a faire price.[/QUOTE]I used EP purely for efficiency. When I'm living and working in Lisbon I'm way too busy to deal with independents. The receptionists tend to reply quickly and don't bullshit about availability. There are also no hidden costs. I never book days in advance. They will always give you the girl's schedules and if you book enough, they will offer you times proactively. I never had to ask to book Flora Neves, for example. The receptionist handling her schedule would message me every week to give me her availability and I just picked a slot.

Seen a few ladies through Seeking and that can be brutally efficient also. Only saw one independent on an outcall.

Following comments here I used EP and booked Vivian Miller. Comms were good and there was no issue with having to rebook for the next day, I did give plenty of notice.

The hotel I was in had a card system to access the lift with reception right in front so I thought there might be an issue. To ensure a fast walk through I met Vivian outside, again her comms on arrival were spot on. We walked to the lift and got in, no issues, as the door closed she gave me a big smile, she's gorgeous.

In the room she had a shower and came out in lingerie, oh my, what a body. What happened next was genuinely among the best GFE I've had.

She is also works at a bar a few evenings so not always available, she is saving to study to be a veterinarian nurse probably next year. Treat her well she's a gem. Would I repeat? I am already planning to.

Visited Thai Sensation in CBD, excellent Thai massage but totally legit, so no option for happy ending but if you are looking to relax without action it's a good option.

[QUOTE=UKJazzMan;2868855]Visited Thai Sensation in CBD, excellent Thai massage but totally legit, so no option for happy ending but if you are looking to relax without action it's a good option.[/QUOTE]They have around 3 locations in Lisbon.

Which address did you go to?

[QUOTE=Tna01;2868986]They have around 3 locations in Lisbon.

Which address did you go to?[/QUOTE]This one.

AVENIDA DOM JOÃO II 15 A.

1990-078 LISBOA.

As I mentioned it was excellent, the lady was from Nepal, and at 40 Euro for an hour good value, just not extras but I'the recommend providing you are not expecting more, unless your experience differed to mine.

[QUOTE=UKJazzMan;2869118]This one.
AVENIDA DOM JOO II 15 A.
1990-078 LISBOA.

As I mentioned it was excellent, the lady was from Nepal, and at 40 Euro for an hour good value, just not extras but I'd recommend providing you are not expecting more, unless your experience differed to mine.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Went there for 90 min Thai massage ($60). Front desk guy took me in and 2 ladies were standing around.

A young pretty size 2 Chinese or a 30 ish avg size / avg face darker skin. Thought she was Thai.

He sent me to the heavier one. Since it's legit, I would have asked for her anyway if given a choice so she can use her weight to dig into my knots.

And boy did she give me a hard massage. And she was from Nepal so maybe the one you had.

No idea about tipping for legit massages in Lisbon but I gave her a $20. (The other bills I had was a $5 and $50. Wished I had a $10).

[QUOTE=UKJazzMan;2869118]This one.

AVENIDA DOM JOO II 15 A.
1990-078 LISBOA.

As I mentioned it was excellent, the lady was from Nepal, and at 40 Euro for an hour good value, just not extras but I'the recommend providing you are not expecting more, unless your experience differed to mine.[/QUOTE]Oh, her name is Tikki. She's been working there for 15 months. She waiting for her residency card, which takes about 2 yrs. Then she's quitting that place. She works 10 hrs / day and it takes her 1 HR each way to get there. So I'm assuming she lives North or West of there since there's 2 other locations of this place south of there.

For Thai and combo Thai / regular massage, there's no option for 30 min. It's 60 min or 90 min.

For deep tissue, there's an option for 30 min but the pricing doesn't entice you to do 90 min: 30,45, 70 euro. 60 min at 45 is the sweet spot.

[QUOTE=Tna01;2869139]Thanks. Went there for 90 min Thai massage ($60). Front desk guy took me in and 2 ladies were standing around.

A young pretty size 2 Chinese or a 30 ish avg size / avg face darker skin. Thought she was Thai.

He sent me to the heavier one. Since it's legit, I would have asked for her anyway if given a choice so she can use her weight to dig into my knots.

And boy did she give me a hard massage. And she was from Nepal so maybe the one you had.

No idea about tipping for legit massages in Lisbon but I gave her a $20. (The other bills I had was a $5 and $50. Wished I had a $10).[/QUOTE]Glad you enjoyed.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-noa-gomes-7710[/URL]

Absolutely gorgeous petite girl. More blonde than in the photos. Perfect GFE, great attitude, great kisser. Would definitely see her again.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-sabrina-avelar-8355[/URL]

Took a little time to warm up but when she did she was fabulous. Again, great GFE. A highly intelligent lady to boot.

Noa Gomes has been reported by one member here as being the former Catarina Rodriguez. If so you got a better service than those reported on the local board, which were average.

Sabrina Avelar is a fairly new girl I believe.

[QUOTE=BrownEyes;2869734][URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-noa-gomes-7710[/URL]

Absolutely gorgeous petite girl. More blonde than in the photos. Perfect GFE, great attitude, great kisser. Would definitely see her again.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-sabrina-avelar-8355[/URL]

Took a little time to warm up but when she did she was fabulous. Again, great GFE. A highly intelligent lady to boot.[/QUOTE]

Hey guys,

I'm 51 and separated, California. I have a golden opportunity to travel anywhere solo for the week before Christmas.

Would you recommend Portugal as a good destination? The girls on Apardato look incredible. And, hey, I haven't seen Portugal yet.

I first looked at Colombia, but the crime seems out of control, and for me, budget is not an issue.

Tijuana is likely more skanky than what I'm looking for.

Mexico City seems complicated.

I'm also taking a hard look at Sao Paolo, but it's actually cheaper and easier to fly to Europe.

Any tips you can offer would be greatly appreciated!

One concern is whether everything may be shut down before Christmas.

Thanks!.

[QUOTE=PaulT26;2870260]Hey guys,

I'm 51 and separated, California. I have a golden opportunity to travel anywhere solo for the week before Christmas.

Would you recommend Portugal as a good destination? The girls on Apardato look incredible. And, hey, I haven't seen Portugal yet.

I first looked at Colombia, but the crime seems out of control, and for me, budget is not an issue.

Tijuana is likely more skanky than what I'm looking for.

Mexico City seems complicated.

I'm also taking a hard look at Sao Paolo, but it's actually cheaper and easier to fly to Europe.

Any tips you can offer would be greatly appreciated!

One concern is whether everything may be shut down before Christmas.

Thanks!.[/QUOTE]Lisbon is very good. Most everyone speaks English, GFE and BBBJ is standard, and prices are ridiculously low compared to the USA For many of us, a delight of the Sintra coast and the Cascais areas is that it is like the Pacific coastline without the California hassles. There are even some Redwood type trees. However, you might be bored with that. But Sintra has better castles than California does. Portuguese women have faces with some character in it. Will probably be okay with you since you have likely had your fill of blue-eyed California blondes. But it is the land of Julia Roberts (in her prime) faces, whereas the Penelope Cruz look-a-likes are easier found in Spain.

Barcelona and Madrid are also excellent choices. For what it is worth, if you want a lot of easy 30 - 45 minute sessions, the shared private apartments like Vecinitas, Teensbcn and El Eden53 in Barcelona and places like Amigasdelidia in Madrid are easier to arrange things than multiple incall quickies with the various independents in Lisbon. But for longer appointments, especially hotel outcall, Lisbon is much less expensive than Barcelona or Madrid, where the ladies charge much more to travel.

[QUOTE=JustForFun13;2866448]

I manage to make an appointment with Fransisca & Iza for the first evening:

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/francisca-iza/[/URL]

They're both very pretty, around 26-28 years old. Franscisca is Portuguese, looks like Jennifer Lawrence and speaks perfect English. It's hard to recognize her in the photos, but they seem to match (she has a few tattoos). Iza is Brazilian, and her skin is much more tanned than Fransisca's, giving our trio a sweet and salty edge. They both have crazy asses. Iza's breasts have undergone a reduction operation, which has left a few scars, while Fransisca's are a little "flabby". A bit disappointed with their tits, but their asses were way up there. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to guide them to get exactly what I was looking for. I have to say that I don't like scripted sex, and I like it when there's an element of feeling and improvisation. But I did really enjoy the session.


Sheers![/QUOTE]How is the 3 some experience? I had a duplex in spain but it wasnt quite what I expected. I didn't expect the girls to lez out or even kiss, but they would only take turns sucking my prick, wiping it with a baby wipe when switching. It was great having one fucking / sucking while the other was sitting on my face or DFK one while the other was on her knees servicing me, but I'd really like both girls sucking and licking my cock and balls at the same time.

Hi!

Portugal is the third safest country in the world.

The weather is usually good, very good or excellent (even in Winter).

Girls are beautiful and friendly.

Food is amazing.

As for the sex workers you just have to spend some time browsing through ISG pages.

Lisbon is a beautiful city.

Welcome!

[QUOTE=PaulT26;2870260]Hey guys,

I'm 51 and separated, California. I have a golden opportunity to travel anywhere solo for the week before Christmas.

Would you recommend Portugal as a good destination? The girls on Apardato look incredible. And, hey, I haven't seen Portugal yet.

I first looked at Colombia, but the crime seems out of control, and for me, budget is not an issue.

Tijuana is likely more skanky than what I'm looking for.

Mexico City seems complicated.

I'm also taking a hard look at Sao Paolo, but it's actually cheaper and easier to fly to Europe.

Any tips you can offer would be greatly appreciated!

One concern is whether everything may be shut down before Christmas.

Thanks!.[/QUOTE]

I second everything Kama posted, with the added comment that in the weather in central Portugal won't be too dissimilar to central California. So that gives you an idea of what to expect for that part.

[QUOTE=PaulT26;2870260]Hey guys,

I'm 51 and separated, California. I have a golden opportunity to travel anywhere solo for the week before Christmas.

Would you recommend Portugal as a good destination? The girls on Apardato look incredible. And, hey, I haven't seen Portugal yet.

I first looked at Colombia, but the crime seems out of control, and for me, budget is not an issue.

Tijuana is likely more skanky than what I'm looking for.

Mexico City seems complicated.

I'm also taking a hard look at Sao Paolo, but it's actually cheaper and easier to fly to Europe.

Any tips you can offer would be greatly appreciated!

One concern is whether everything may be shut down before Christmas.

Thanks!.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Harry1217;2870041]Noa Gomes has been reported by one member here as being the former Catarina Rodriguez. If so you got a better service than those reported on the local board, which were average.

Sabrina Avelar is a fairly new girl I believe.[/QUOTE]The Noa I met bore no resemblance to Catarina. Their bodies are very different. Noa was delightful, really enjoyed my meet.

Don't know if Sabrina is new but she is a sophisticated young lady and bright too. I believe that she is a student.

Booked an outcall with [URL]https://somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino[/URL] but the lady failed to turn up which was very disappointing.

There are often disagreements about who could be who due to name changes, basically because someone looks at an ad and thinks it is someone else, without having met either the person behind the new ad and old one. Whenever I chime in on this, I try to give the full details -- use language like "I suspect" or say it is confirmed on the local board. The other end of the spectrum are Kruger-Dunning assclowns who get upset over a pair of thick legs (even though you can see them in the photos), but insist they can see it's the same girl while having actually met none.

An example on our own thread is Nicole Forte, who now goes by Solange Abreu. She's wretched. A fellow said they were two different people, but then Iater I saw a review stating unequivocally that the guy was very upset that Solange turned out to be Nicole, because he knew what a sh*tbox she was from a prior meeting.

Likewise, there was a run recently on EP girls using the name Freitas. Everybody assumed most of this was the one disappointing girl changing her name all the time, which I always found odd because isn't it stupid to keep half your escort handle in a name change? Who knows?

Compounding the issue are the girls who will do a name change even though they don't have a negative reputation. Lisa Mendes started out as Bianca Peirera, this is her third handle and yet nobody has ever said an unkind word about her (that I've seen).

It takes all the problems with reliable reviews and covers them with fog. I tend to avoid anyone I have doubts about, preferring to either go reliable or go totally blind and break some new ground for all concerned.

For what its worth, I don't recall a reliable report that Noa Gomes was Catarina Rodriguez. Maybe my memory is fuzzy, but the main issue is YOU enjoyed her work. That is something to stand by.

[QUOTE=BrownEyes;2870641]The Noa I met bore no resemblance to Catarina. Their bodies are very different. Noa was delightful, really enjoyed my meet.

Don't know if Sabrina is new but she is a sophisticated young lady and bright too. I believe that she is a student.

Booked an outcall with [URL]https://somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino[/URL] but the lady failed to turn up which was very disappointing.[/QUOTE]

It was a senior member here who has delivered some great intel and a bunch of reviews of Lisbon ladies. He said he reviewed Catarina but doesn't say in that post whether he has met in person the lady known as Noa Gomes, so your point about people making assertions they can't validate may be true. However, if there were potentially previous reviews for the lady which weren't great, it's obviously good to highlight so we're all kept as informed as possible.

As you say, the main point is that the person reporting (BrownEyes) enjoyed his visit.

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2870820]

For what its worth, I don't recall a reliable report that Noa Gomes was Catarina Rodriguez. Maybe my memory is fuzzy, but the main issue is YOU enjoyed her work. That is something to stand by.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Harry1217;2871248]It was a senior member here who has delivered some great intel and a bunch of reviews of Lisbon ladies. He said he reviewed Catarina but doesn't say in that post whether he has met in person the lady known as Noa Gomes, so your point about people making assertions they can't validate may be true. However, if there were potentially previous reviews for the lady which weren't great, it's obviously good to highlight so we're all kept as informed as possible.

As you say, the main point is that the person reporting (BrownEyes) enjoyed his visit.[/QUOTE]Pretty sure it was me who said Noa was Catarina. I didn't meet her as Noa, so it's feasible that her appearance and performance could have changed a lot over two years. The physical stats are the same. She got implants last year as far as I remember while being advertised as Catarina. Don't remember every detail that well but I think she had some star tattoos on her hips.

Anyway, it was another EP escort who told me about her name change, so I was mainly going on that information.

Yes it was your previous comments that I was referring to. Perhaps not having had the implants for long whilst being 'Catarina', may be a contributing factor to people not linking the lady under the two names.

Thanks for the update.

[QUOTE=PER23;2871306]Pretty sure it was me who said Noa was Catarina. I didn't meet her as Noa, so it's feasible that her appearance and performance could have changed a lot over two years. The physical stats are the same. She got implants last year as far as I remember while being advertised as Catarina. Don't remember every detail that well but I think she had some star tattoos on her hips.

Anyway, it was another EP escort who told me about her name change, so I was mainly going on that information.[/QUOTE]

Yesterday I contacted Yara Cohen through Apartadox:

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-yara-cohen-4950[/URL]

She told me she would be available today as of 1 pm for 150 euro/hr at her place. At 1 pm today, nothing. She eventually replied to tell me she would be late and if we could postpone until 2:30. No problem with me. However at 2:30, nothing. I blocked Yara Cohen and tried to get hold of one of the Escort Privada girls who appeared as "available now" on the website. I got no replies. "Available now" only means the girl is during her working hours, it doesn't mean she's actually available and waiting for a client to PM.

Empty handed, I decided to go for a massage at Artemis Massagem, rua Pedro Nunes, a stone's throw from my hotel. When I told Artemis massage I wanted the "ILO" (= prostate) massage, they explained ILO only came as an extra to one of the main featured massages. OK so I picked a massage. The price-tag was 80 for the 30-minutes massage + 50 for the prostate part. The problem was, all their massages were the stupid body-to-body type. I get zero kick out of having a girl poking her oiled knees or any other oiled part of her body into my back. A masseuse should use HER HANDS, period! Another thing was, the prostate part got forgotten. The girl put on latex gloves at one point, and poked AROUND my butthole but somehow never found the way inside. It would be funny if it didn't testify to sky-high incompetence.

I'm here for two weeks so I still hope to get laid somehow, but one word of warning already: if you're thinking of spending say 3 days in Lisbon hoping to get that girl who caught your fancy on one of the websites, forget it! Most likely she won't be available or she'll waste your time. Be happy if you get hold of ANY girl during your allotted 3 days, what with the time-wasters, the no-shows etc.

For the sake of comparison, f you spend 3 days in Frankfurt, Berlin or Zurick, you only need to hit one of the big clubs to fuck 3 hotties in a single visit.

Welcome to Portugal.

So, first thing: you should have cancelled as soon as Yara postponed by 1 1/2 hours. She was clearly stringing you along until she could actually get there. That isn't a normal practice in my experience, but if somebody tells you openly they are going to be that late. Well, you can easily take your business elsewhere and get started all inside that time frame.

I would call that a universal practice, really. And for things outside mongering too.

On that subject, it's Southern Europe. The one part of the business where I have found being seriously late is normal is with EP. But their lateness actually falls within the realm of normal Portuguese social practice (only 30 minutes? Then I wasn't late! So be aware.

Nuru massage is the norm there, and it's very popular. Your preferences are yours and that is fair, but its not widely shared locally. It features in almost all erotic massage situations. If you don't want nuru, you will need to specifically ask for something else, like "sport. " Or ask for the marquesa -- they won't body slide you on a proper table.

In fact, there are only a few masseurs who are known for their excellent proper massage technique and put some frisky touches on it, but there is a price to pay there: they probably won't get naked and they almost certainly won't go FS. If you were looking for a five star, but still fundamentally American AMP experience, you are actually right: Portugal doesn't do that.

Most of us think it's better that way.

As for your notion that if you have only a few days, give up because you won't get laid.... well, maybe YOU won't. Not with that crap attitude.

[QUOTE=XXL;2871582]Yesterday I contacted Yara Cohen through Apartadox:

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-yara-cohen-4950[/URL]

She told me she would be available today as of 1 pm for 150 euro/hr at her place. At 1 pm today, nothing. She eventually replied to tell me she would be late and if we could postpone until 2:30. No problem with me. However at 2:30, nothing. I blocked Yara Cohen and tried to get hold of one of the Escort Privada girls who appeared as "available now" on the website. I got no replies. "Available now" only means the girl is during her working hours, it doesn't mean she's actually available and waiting for a client to PM.

Empty handed, I decided to go for a massage at Artemis Massagem, rua Pedro Nunes, a stone's throw from my hotel. When I told Artemis massage I wanted the "ILO" (= prostate) massage, they explained ILO only came as an extra to one of the main featured massages. OK so I picked a massage. The price-tag was 80 for the 30-minutes massage + 50 for the prostate part. The problem was, all their massages were the stupid body-to-body type. I get zero kick out of having a girl poking her oiled knees or any other oiled part of her body into my back. A masseuse should use HER HANDS, period! Another thing was, the prostate part got forgotten. The girl put on latex gloves at one point, and poked AROUND my butthole but somehow never found the way inside. It would be funny if it didn't testify to sky-high incompetence.

I'm here for two weeks so I still hope to get laid somehow, but one word of warning already: if you're thinking of spending say 3 days in Lisbon hoping to get that girl who caught your fancy on one of the websites, forget it! Most likely she won't be available or she'll waste your time. Be happy if you get hold of ANY girl during your allotted 3 days, what with the time-wasters, the no-shows etc.

For the sake of comparison, f you spend 3 days in Frankfurt, Berlin or Zurick, you only need to hit one of the big clubs to fuck 3 hotties in a single visit.[/QUOTE]

Whilst I don't disagree that Lisbon doesn't really have a club scene, it's nonsense to suggest that there'll be no short-term availability in Lisbon for girls catching your eye. Unless, of course, you've got a tiny shortlist in which case it is feasible that they won't be available at short notice.

I had a situation recently where the first few I contacted were all unavailable for different reasons, but it didn't take long to find someone who was available (and I had a decent punt). I think you've let one bad experience, which happened to be your first, unreasonably influence your thinking. Also I wouldn't just focus on 'available now' EP girls. What about the tens of other Apartadox girls?

[QUOTE=XXL;2871582]
I'm here for two weeks so I still hope to get laid somehow, but one word of warning already: if you're thinking of spending say 3 days in Lisbon hoping to get that girl who caught your fancy on one of the websites, forget it! Most likely she won't be available or she'll waste your time. Be happy if you get hold of ANY girl during your allotted 3 days, what with the time-wasters, the no-shows etc.

For the sake of comparison, if you spend 3 days in Frankfurt, Berlin or Zurick, you only need to hit one of the big clubs to fuck 3 hotties in a single visit.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=XXL;2871582]
I'm here for two weeks so I still hope to get laid somehow[/QUOTE]You just have to browse through the Lisbon pages of ISG and you'll certainly find A LOT of certified options.

Today I sessioned Clara Mendes from Escort Privada:

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/clara-mendes/[/URL]

She looked younger than she did on her website pics. If she's anything to go by it seems the website doesn't lie about girls' ages (20 in her case). Good figure overall, small tits, good booty, no pussy hairs. I'd describe her as friendly and easy-going. She even agreed to using my Sagami polyurethane condom although she had never seen one before, which says a lot. She was punctual, indeed 10 minutes ahead of time. After we were done, I had to tell her she could go because she was preparing to "sit out" the full hour. I'm not one for doing much small talk after sex.

One word about the hotel. I'm staying at VIP Executive Picoas. It's next to Sheraton (around which there used to be street action in the good old days). Good room, silent aircon / heating. Internet OK though you have to relog each time you start a new laptop session. The included breakfast is high quality. Two convenience stores are a 2 minutes' walk away: Aldi and Pingo Doce. Two underground stations are a 5 minutes' walk away on opposite sides: Parque on the "blue line" and Picoas on the "yellow line". It was a 10 minutes' walk to Saldanha shopping mall where I bought a Vodaphone SIM giving me unlimited internet for 30 days (35 euro). The hotel requires you to go down to meet your girl because the key card is needed in the lift to go to the rooms. When going down to the lobby no key card is needed so the girl can leave on her own. There's no checking of IDs or any interference by front desk.

Looks lovely. Does the face live up to the body?

[QUOTE=XXL;2872071]Today I sessioned Clara Mendes from Escort Privada:

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/clara-mendes/[/URL]

She looked younger than she did on her website pics. If she's anything to go by it seems the website doesn't lie about girls' ages (20 in her case). Good figure overall, small tits, good booty, no pussy hairs. I'd describe her as friendly and easy-going. She even agreed to using my Sagami polyurethane condom although she had never seen one before, which says a lot. She was punctual, indeed 10 minutes ahead of time. After we were done, I had to tell her she could go because she was preparing to "sit out" the full hour. I'm not one for doing much small talk after sex.

One word about the hotel. I'm staying at VIP Executive Picoas. It's next to Sheraton (around which there used to be street action in the good old days). Good room, silent aircon / heating. Internet OK though you have to relog each time you start a new laptop session. The included breakfast is high quality. Two convenience stores are a 2 minutes' walk away: Aldi and Pingo Doce. Two underground stations are a 5 minutes' walk away on opposite sides: Parque on the "blue line" and Picoas on the "yellow line". It was a 10 minutes' walk to Saldanha shopping mall where I bought a Vodaphone SIM giving me unlimited internet for 30 days (35 euro). The hotel requires you to go down to meet your girl because the key card is needed in the lift to go to the rooms. When going down to the lobby no key card is needed so the girl can leave on her own. There's no checking of IDs or any interference by front desk.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much for the review of Clara Mendes, who has not always gotten the best reviews. So it is great to know she did well this time.

If you are into that young, fresh-faced look, Celine Luz received an excellent review on the local board in that respect.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/celine-luz/[/URL]

And Viviane Miler is continuing to get spectacular reviews on the international section of various review boards. She seems to be the go-to EP girl at the moment.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/viviane-miler/[/URL]

On the non-EP side, it is worth noting that Tati Bernardi is now getting all 9's and 10's out of 10 on the local board from experienced reviewers. She is BBBJ, usually CIM, and covered anal seems almost always to be available with her, sometimes with a minor 20 euro upsell. Tati got a string of mediocre reviews when something must have been going on in her private life, but the turnaround in her reviews from experienced reviewers is remarkable.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-tati-bernardi-3753[/URL]

Hi guys,

Planning a short trip for next month.

How far in advance do you recommend booking via the escort sites? Should I be booking a week in advance, or would just a couple days suffice?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=PaulT26;2872346]Hi guys,

Planning a short trip for next month.

How far in advance do you recommend booking via the escort sites? Should I be booking a week in advance, or would just a couple days suffice?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]With EP a few days before is best. That is when they know the schedule pretty well, although for some ladies they only really know until the day before.

EP has a tendency to say Yes, she will be available, if you book weeks before, as they assume if you have locked the appointment in, you will accept a substitute if the original lady doesn't work that day. You would like to believe a lady would feel obligated to work on a given day if requested weeks before, but that does not appear to be the case.

With the best reviewed independents, there is no limit to how far in advance you can book. I booked Rebeca months before. She put it in her phone calendar and sure enough contacted me a week before, and the day before, to reconfirm. On the other hand, there are some independents, like the one XXL got strung along by, who will just ignore even a scheduled appointment.

[QUOTE=PaulT26;2872346]Hi guys,

Planning a short trip for next month.

How far in advance do you recommend booking via the escort sites? Should I be booking a week in advance, or would just a couple days suffice?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]No booking days in advance. The escort sites will blackmail you as an internet wa*ker.

Booking as little the day before or even 4 hours in advance is a recipe for getting stood up or put on a back burner in my experience. Two hours in advance or "come now" is the best.

The sites I rely on (Apartadox, Docemassagem, Somassagens, Portalprivado) are all advertising, not agencies, and they do not function as middlemen. Some of those ads, on the massage sites in particular, lead you to the spa rather than the lady, but that is still contacting "the principal" directly. The majority of those ads link directly to the lady herself.

I don't think it is usually necessary to contact an escort more than several hours before you want the appointment. If you want to see her at night, that afternoon is fine. If you want to see her first thing when her stated hours begin, you should reach out the day before. Unless you already know the lady, never make an appointment earlier than the day before. In fact, half the time the lady won't let you make an appointment more than one day out; I've found they will tell you to come back and ask them later, because they have no idea if they can keep an appointment that far out.

The alternative approach is to sit down in central Lisbon, like around Campo Pequeno or Saldanha, and just start pinging the ladies off your wishlist. If that list has four or five names, odds are one of them is inside a 15 minute walk from where you are sitting and will be available. Apartadox and Portalprivado do the green dot, I'm available thing. Escort Privada, the outcall agency, does too. That is more rolling the dice, but a lot of the time the locals are doing it in a similar fashion -- they have some time to fill, so they see who is available.

Obviously, outcall emphasizes making advance appointments more than incall. Even if she is in a cafe, made up and primed to respond, she still needs to travel to where you are. And she is rarely operating like that. It's the incall escorts who are better suited to short notice availability.

[QUOTE=PaulT26;2872346]Hi guys,

Planning a short trip for next month.

How far in advance do you recommend booking via the escort sites? Should I be booking a week in advance, or would just a couple days suffice?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Few girls available at my favourite time of day, ie between 1 and 3 pm (my testosterone falls off a cliff after 5 pm).

Today I got hold of Victoria Saraiva:

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/victoria-saraiva/[/URL]

On the website she's 26, in flesh and blood I'd say she's on the right side of 40. The Portuguese who reviewed her in Gp gave her 36, which was a faire estimate. Not sure knowing her real age would have influenced my choosing her since there were few alternatives (only one other available girl on EP in fact).

Her body is good though. She's a genuine red-head. She said she spoke fluent English. She was friendly and talkative and tried to please. She warned me just ahead of time she would be 15 minutes late.

Tomorrow is my recovery day. Next girl on Wednesday.

[QUOTE=XXL;2872626]Few girls available at my favourite time of day, ie between 1 and 3 pm (my testosterone falls off a cliff after 5 pm).

Today I got hold of Victoria Saraiva:

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/victoria-saraiva/[/URL]

On the website she's 26, in flesh and blood I'd say she's on the right side of 40. The Portuguese who reviewed her in Gp gave her 36, which was a faire estimate. Not sure knowing her real age would have influenced my choosing her since there were few alternatives (only one other available girl on EP in fact).

Her body is good though. She's a genuine red-head. She said she spoke fluent English. She was friendly and talkative and tried to please. She warned me just ahead of time she would be 15 minutes late.

Tomorrow is my recovery day. Next girl on Wednesday.[/QUOTE]Drat, I tried to book her but she wasn't working that day or whatever. Love a fab redhead. Did I miss out?

I read and speak and write Portuguese all right, yet I have hardly been able to get anything from Gp-Pt.

The site has no search function.

Whenever I want to turn a page I get logged out and need to reenter. This may be because of the VPN but I'm not going to surf without a VPN on the hotel Wi-Fi. The password I got from the website is endless so re-entering is a pain in the neck. The alternative is to use 4 G on my smartphone but then the input fields become microscopic.

Today I could get hold of Tatiana Almeida, one of the few girls available early on Escort Privada.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/tatiana-almeida/[/URL]

She was on time. I'd put her age at definitely under 30 but not far from 30. Good body, as per website. Face average but radiating an impish good nature. She had no problem using my Sagami condom.

She was very chatty and wouldn't have been averse to going out and have dinner with me after we were done, except I wasn't hungry yet because of the copious hotel breakfast.

I wasn't able to finish. This was not because of her, rather owing to lack of sleep, old age, or being spoilt after months of high-octane sex on cannabis in Thailand this year. THC is not legal in Portugal, don't bother with cannabis shops here they'll only sell you fake stuff.

[QUOTE=XXL;2873138]I read and speak and write Portuguese all right, yet I have hardly been able to get anything from Gp-Pt.

The site has no search function.[/QUOTE]There is a search button. But for being able to use it you need to acquire a status on the forum that comes from a minimum of TDs (reviews). It's all on the rules and regulations thread.

Sheila Matos: [URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/sheila-matos/301585/[/URL].

Asks 130 euro for 1 hour incall.

This girl is pretty. Loves her job and she allows everything. Is very active in bed. Her body is the best out of the three girls. I'd rate her 8.5/10.

Lia Aida: [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Lia-Aida-5098[/URL].

Not sure what to expect from her as there are no reviews. Asks 120 euro for 1 hour incall.

This girl is really friendly, both in communication as during the meeting. She is also prettier than her ad.

She does an amazing massage and BJ. Almost came too fast the first time. She's more petite than the first escort, so not all positions are easy.

Either way, I totally loved her services so much that I went for another round. I rate her 9. 5/10.

Please treat this girl with respect, as she is so sweet. She's might get another job soon, so if you want to visit her, you have to be fast.

Adelia: [URL]https://massagerepublic.com/female-escorts-in-lisbon/adelia-curvy-sweet-portuguese-student[/URL].

For this girl, you need to contact her a few weeks before you arrive and she is very picky. She also insists on doing a phone call. If you don't like that, this is not your girl.

The meeting is a real GFE. Ended up drinking some wine and hugging / kissing. Came two times during the meeting, once on her.

She asks 250 euro for about 3 hours, which is good value. Also 8. 5/10.

Other girls that I've contacted and responded that you can try:

[URL]https://www.classificadosx.net/en/anuncio/20-mulheres-lisboa/342604-latina-recem-chegada-muito-cal[/URL] - She wasn't in Lisbon at the time. Asks 60 euro for 30 minutes. Website is down ATM.

[URL]https://www.classificadosx.net/en/anuncio/20-mulheres-lisboa/431420-namoradinha-carinhosa-e-safada[/URL] - She was my backup plan. Asks 130 for 1 hour. She has an Instagram page which you can check out.

[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/fabiana-lopes/543357/[/URL] - 150 for 1 hour. Only outcall.

[URL]https://massagerepublic.com/female-escorts-in-lisbon/telma-vaz[/URL] - Also only outcall. Asks 200 for 1 hour, which is more than her ad says.

[URL]https://escortslineeurope.com/modelos/natasha-pires/[/URL] - 150 for 1 hour. First agreed to do incall, but then later she wanted to do outcall. Kind of a weird conversation. I think the first person I messaged was the agency, but then later was the girl herself (or at least someone else than the first person).

[QUOTE=NaughtyGuru;2873854]

Lia Aida: [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Lia-Aida-5098[/URL].

Not sure what to expect from her as there are no reviews. [/QUOTE]Yes, there are. Both here and in the local board. All of them very positive.

There are also local reviews of Adelia going back a decade, from when she did regular incall work. The story is almost entirely negative. I also still wonder what the girl looks like now, because her pics are ancient and torture the Myspace angles to boot, and you don't say much about that.

So, I'm glad you enjoyed your rendezvous. That is always the main thing.

But frankly, if someone else were looking for that kind of experience, I would send them to SA and warn them off Adelia.

[QUOTE=NaughtyGuru;2873854]
Adelia: [URL]https://massagerepublic.com/female-escorts-in-lisbon/adelia-curvy-sweet-portuguese-student[/URL].

For this girl, you need to contact her a few weeks before you arrive and she is very picky. She also insists on doing a phone call. If you don't like that, this is not your girl.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for your reports.

This is the first report on Sheila Matos and the information is very useful.

From the list of ladies you ended up not seeing, you likely dodged a bullet by not seeing Telma Vaz, who received a very bad review on the local board.

And the favorable review of escortslineeurope disappeared on the local board, so we are not sure if they are legitimate or not.

[QUOTE=NaughtyGuru;2873854]Sheila Matos: [URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/sheila-matos/301585/[/URL].

Asks 130 euro for 1 hour incall.

This girl is pretty. Loves her job and she allows everything. Is very active in bed. Her body is the best out of the three girls. I'd rate her 8.5/10.

Lia Aida: [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Lia-Aida-5098[/URL].

Not sure what to expect from her as there are no reviews. Asks 120 euro for 1 hour incall.

This girl is really friendly, both in communication as during the meeting. She is also prettier than her ad.

She does an amazing massage and BJ. Almost came too fast the first time. She's more petite than the first escort, so not all positions are easy.

Either way, I totally loved her services so much that I went for another round. I rate her 9. 5/10.

Please treat this girl with respect, as she is so sweet. She's might get another job soon, so if you want to visit her, you have to be fast.

Adelia: [URL]https://massagerepublic.com/female-escorts-in-lisbon/adelia-curvy-sweet-portuguese-student[/URL].

For this girl, you need to contact her a few weeks before you arrive and she is very picky. She also insists on doing a phone call. If you don't like that, this is not your girl.

The meeting is a real GFE. Ended up drinking some wine and hugging / kissing. Came two times during the meeting, once on her.

She asks 250 euro for about 3 hours, which is good value. Also 8. 5/10.

Other girls that I've contacted and responded that you can try:

[URL]https://www.classificadosx.net/en/anuncio/20-mulheres-lisboa/342604-latina-recem-chegada-muito-cal[/URL] - She wasn't in Lisbon at the time. Asks 60 euro for 30 minutes. Website is down ATM.

[URL]https://www.classificadosx.net/en/anuncio/20-mulheres-lisboa/431420-namoradinha-carinhosa-e-safada[/URL] - She was my backup plan. Asks 130 for 1 hour. She has an Instagram page which you can check out.

[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/fabiana-lopes/543357/[/URL] - 150 for 1 hour. Only outcall.

[URL]https://massagerepublic.com/female-escorts-in-lisbon/telma-vaz[/URL] - Also only outcall. Asks 200 for 1 hour, which is more than her ad says.

[URL]https://escortslineeurope.com/modelos/natasha-pires/[/URL] - 150 for 1 hour. First agreed to do incall, but then later she wanted to do outcall. Kind of a weird conversation. I think the first person I messaged was the agency, but then later was the girl herself (or at least someone else than the first person).[/QUOTE]

Former EP star Flora Neves has returned as an independent, and is advertising on Eurogirls.

[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/flora-neves/646062/?list=cv3vce[/URL]

She is well-reviewed on this thread, so all I'll add from my recent call is she is still very sweet and offers a lovely time. Flora is now asking a modest bump to 160/ h, which I consider fair given her relative quality against the agency roster she left behind.

Be good to her.

With some other girls you'd be suspicious about them switching their ads / profiles from reputable sites like EP and Apartadox to a more dubious one like eurogirlescort. Actually, you can understand her coming off EP as she has increased her rate beyond the EP level. I'm guessing the switch from Apartadox is to lower her costs, although she has opted for the paid 'VIP' status on eurogirl as opposed to the regular free advertising which the vast majority of girls do.

Unless eurogirl reaches a bigger audience and has better algorithms on the internet etc. However, she said to me not long ago that she doesn't need to escort and only works minimal hours, so I'd be surprised if she's chasing more work.

It is slightly baffling, but good to know that her service still appears to be good.

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2874337]Former EP star Flora Neves has returned as an independent, and is advertising on Eurogirls.

[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/flora-neves/646062/?list=cv3vce[/URL]

She is well-reviewed on this thread, so all I'll add from my recent call is she is still very sweet and offers a lovely time. Flora is now asking a modest bump to 160/ h, which I consider fair given her relative quality against the agency roster she left behind.

Be good to her.[/QUOTE]

Yes, I know -- I was suspicious at first, because Eurogirls isn't particularly reliable. But since I know her, establishing who it is on the other side wasn't hard.

The last time this came up with an ex-EP girl I knew who went independent, she told me that when she did advertise on Apartadox, they made her change her name. EP pays to advertise their entire roster on Apartadox, and they own those photos and the name (insofar as Apartadox is concerned) as a result. So, that ad was less effective than the one she did on Portalprivado, where she kept her old working name.

Both Apartadox and Portalprivado require girls to do the photoshoot with them, which is why their verification standard is so solid (at least when the photoshoot was done), while eurogirls allows them to submit photos and does a cursory verification, ala Tinder (which is why it is so dodgy). I imagine Flora went for the cheapest option.

Thanks, that makes sense.

I think it's probably accurate to say the root cause of leaving EP is due to cost and the fact she wanted to charge a bit more, but she couldn't stay on Apartadox anyway without a name change. She's certainly not one who had cause to change name because of poor service etc!

She hasn't actually gone for the cheapest option on eurogirl as she has 'VIP' status which requires payment. There are plenty of EP and Apartadox girls advertising for free on eurogirl.

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2874865]Yes, I know -- I was suspicious at first, because Eurogirls isn't particularly reliable. But since I know her, establishing who it is on the other side wasn't hard.

The last time this came up with an ex-EP girl I knew who went independent, she told me that when she did advertise on Apartadox, they made her change her name. EP pays to advertise their entire roster on Apartadox, and they own those photos and the name (insofar as Apartadox is concerned) as a result. So, that ad was less effective than the one she did on Portalprivado, where she kept her old working name.

Both Apartadox and Portalprivado require girls to do the photoshoot with them, which is why their verification standard is so solid (at least when the photoshoot was done), while eurogirls allows them to submit photos and does a cursory verification, ala Tinder (which is why it is so dodgy). I imagine Flora went for the cheapest option.[/QUOTE]

So she is genuine? That is good news because she was in my list for my next business trip to LIS.

Still a month away but good to know.

Yes, 100% confirmed.

[QUOTE=Front604;2875016]So she is genuine? That is good news because she was in my list for my next business trip to LIS.[/QUOTE]On that subject, I suspect Soraia Alberquerque has returned as an independent too, but she is advertising on Apartadox. I could be wrong, but there can't be that many petite, slender girls with those magnificent, natural breasts in Lisbon:

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-frederica-alves-8334[/URL]

A very probable, but still yellow flag goes onto Claudia Nascimento. The locals are having a talk about whether she is the notorious pirate Anita Rocha, and I think they are right. One thing they haven't mentioned is that the photo set shows a tat that Anita was known to have later on. So until a local verifies it isn't her, I think the word is back off.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-claudia-nascimento-5742[/URL]

I'd be amazed if that wasn't Soraia. Looks very, very much like her.

Just like with her old pictures, her breasts have been made the main subject. When she was 'Soraia' there were reports of her not wanting her breasts played with much, which I find scandalous after showing them off like that.

A reminder for anyone wanting to see her, that she had mixed reports; some really liked her but several people didn't.

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2875183]

On that subject, I suspect Soraia Alberquerque has returned as an independent too, but she is advertising on Apartadox. I could be wrong, but there can't be that many petite, slender girls with those magnificent, natural breasts in Lisbon:

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-frederica-alves-8334[/URL]

[/QUOTE]

Yes. In her broad strokes, the word on Soraia / Frederica was:

1) Spectacular body up to the neck, but her face was of that interesting Portuguese type that some foreigners just don't like, but the locals may go nuts for. I have a review with a similar lady coming up, and it is worth noting that the same thing is said about Flora Neves and Sara Valente. I always thought her facial looks were above average ("pretty") and her body magnificent.

2) Her style was submissive. She was eager to please and wanted to make her clients happy, but was not one to take the lead. Some people like that and some don't. And she is quite sensitive, about more than her breasts to boot, so she required delicate treatment in some areas. That worked for some folks and not for others.

My own take is that I enjoyed being with her, but would only call ger again if several other options weren't there. My issues with her are not deal breakers, very far from it, but they are issues.

Flora is on Apartadox, and under her own name.

I think the new photoshoot looks more like her than the old one:

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-flora-neves-5484[/URL]

Looks like they let her use her old name, so either that factoid I was told was wrong, Apartadox likes her or EP gave her permission. Who knows?

Physically, Clara is a 25 year old, 5'7" waif: thin, fit, lovely skin, flat chested. She has that interesting Portuguese face that has come up recently -- her reviews on the local board show how divisive that is, because half of them think it is normal and half are crazy about her looks. I think of her as a little pretty.

What we all agree on is she is wonderful in bed: an active, energetic GFE. She is a good kisser, lovely oral and very engaged. She is currently working in a spa in outer Cascais, near Cascaishopping, and her massage technique isn't much to speak of and ends swiftly. I think that is a good thing, given the performance that awaits after it's done. BUT, be aware that the massage part isn't what you should go to her for.

I would gladly go back, if I had the opportunity to be in that area again this time around. For most of you, I don't think Alcoitao is going to work, but it is worth keeping an eye on Clara. She has been in Lisbon proper before, and may very well move back in the future.

https://docemassagem.com/massagista/clara-portuguesa/

https://www.portalprivado.com/escort/clara-gouveia

Ana Carol Leite works at the Nuru Spa in Cascais. Spas often have girls that advertise as independents and appear on the spa roster as well; often it makes a difference in the cut the house receives whether they brought the client in themselves. So, you can see her face on the spa website, but I won't link to it and encourage you to contact her directly. She might get more money that way.

Ana has both the looks and body of an all-natural Playboy model from back when Playboy was a thing. What you see in the Apartadox ad is most accurate -- petite; small, lovely breasts; shapely. Her hair is black with blond highlights in. She is in her mid-20s, my guess being 25 to 27.

Ana is a sweetheart. She speaks almost no English and it hardly matters, and watching her dance around is a joy. Her style in bed is passive, with a few toes over the line to active. She kisses, but no tongue. Her style isn't everything I want, but her looks make up for it. I easily mustered two goes in about 40 minutes (minus shower at the start and finish for the full hour) if that tells you anything.

The spa is near the Auchan in Cascais. If your hotel is in the actual city of Cascais, you could probably walk there, and otherwise would easily be able to tack it onto coming into Cascais center for a meal. Likewise, if you take the commuter train out from Lisbon for some seaside time, you'll find the walk to the spa easy.

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-ana-carol-leite--7646

https://www.portalprivado.com/escort/carol-leite

Yes you were clearly one of those in the positive camp about Soraia / Frederica.

I found her so unattractive facially that I considered, albeit very briefly, sending her back when she arrived at my hotel. And I wasn't enthused by her legs and backside; in contrast to the large number of ladies there with shapely legs and asses, she didn't have any curves and has short legs. And her sensitivity meant the service was average. I definitely won't be returning to see her, even if nobody else is available!

I'm really surprised that people would make the same comments about Flora Neves' face. My first reaction when I saw Flora was of delight at seeing a pretty girl, albeit in a girl-next-door way! Chalk and cheese comparing her and Soraia in my opinion.

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2875467]Yes. In her broad strokes, the word on Soraia / Frederica was:

1) Spectacular body up to the neck, but her face was of that interesting Portuguese type that some foreigners just don't like, but the locals may go nuts for. I have a review with a similar lady coming up, and it is worth noting that the same thing is said about Flora Neves and Sara Valente. I always thought her facial looks were above average ("pretty") and her body magnificent.

2) Her style was submissive. She was eager to please and wanted to make her clients happy, but was not one to take the lead. Some people like that and some don't. And she is quite sensitive, about more than her breasts to boot, so she required delicate treatment in some areas. That worked for some folks and not for others.

My own take is that I enjoyed being with her, but would only call ger again if several other options weren't there. My issues with her are not deal breakers, very far from it, but they are issues.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the intel. She's one of the very few I have seen who looked better in the flesh than in the pictures. But I agree these pictures are a closer resemblance.

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2875499]Flora is on Apartadox, and under her own name.

I think the new photoshoot looks more like her than the old one:

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-flora-neves-5484[/URL]

Looks like they let her use her old name, so either that factoid I was told was wrong, Apartadox likes her or EP gave her permission. Who knows?[/QUOTE]

Hi,

I'm heading to Lisbon in a week and interested to see Diana Neves. Since I'm only interested to do incall girls and Diana is a Portuguese doing incall. It's rare for young Portuguese girls doing incall in Lisbon. Any member fellow had seen her or any reviews on her?

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-diana-neves-5766[/URL]

[QUOTE=Cheappy;2876382]Hi,

I'm heading to Lisbon in a week and interested to see Diana Neves. Since I'm only interested to do incall girls and Diana is a Portuguese doing incall. It's rare for young Portuguese girls doing incall in Lisbon. Any member fellow had seen her or any reviews on her?

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-diana-neves-5766[/URL][/QUOTE]Unfortunately the reviews on the local board of Diana Neves are not favorable.

Both reviews indicate that she did CBJs and were from reviewers who often list BBBJ in their reviews.

Her reviews are a 5 and a 7 out of ten.

Up to you, but I think you can find better options.

Here is one of her translated reviews from the local board.

"Name: Laura Alves.

Nationality: Portuguese.

Age: 26 (it is possible).

Height: 1. 62 m.

Weight: 58 kg.

Eyes: Brown.

Hair: Brown.

Dude: Cute.

Body: Attractive and natural.

Tail: Round, with curves.

Chest: be Cup, natural.

Vagina: Trimmed.

Oral: Yes, with condom.

Vaginal: More or less.

Anal: No.

Kiss: No.

Attitude: Professional, full of nine hours and without great involvement.

Hygiene: Normal.

Time control: Some.

Location: Avenida Miguel Bombarda towards the Gulbenkian Garden. Normal apartment. Room with shower cabin, bed and blue lights on the floor.

Parking: Complicated and with parking meter red zone.

Values: 60€/30 min;100€/60 min.

Good dear Confreres.

I saw Laura's ad on the private portal and I loved those all-natural curves, typical of a girl still in her twenties and I decided to test if they corresponded to reality.

I asked for the information by What's Up, gave me the values and told me that he kissed sometimes and I told him that I would contact her soon. After a few days, there I decide to schedule with Laura for a Tuesday afternoon, she says yes, she gives me the address, but that she only gave me the building number on the same day, something that I found a little strange, but that's okay.

The day comes, I send a message asking for the number in the morning, and she swims. The day goes on and there is no answer. When there are 10 minutes left until the scheduled time, I send a message to cancel and schedule for another day. After 5 minutes she sends a message saying sorry heart, that she had been late in college, but that she was on her way home. I tried to think with my head from above, but it was the head from below that ended up winning, I was really in the mood to give one, and I said I was going to meet her in 20 minutes.

I went there and was very lucky to find a place to park, because it is not easy there. Message asking for the number and the floor, I went to the building, which has a doorman by the way and which clearly either knows or suspects the traffic that passes through there. A student from the same floor as the "girl" came out of the only elevator and I was already thinking that maybe I should have stayed at home. But since I was there, I went in and went up.

It's Laura half hidden who opens the door to me, a cute and young girl, but not so young, presenting herself in a white lingerie that matched very well with the beautiful skin tone she has and took me to the room. Already inside the room, he asked how long, told him 1 hour, asked for the money and I paid the fine. Then he asked me to take a shower and left the room. There I undressed and went to the shower cabin, having been the 1º time I was asked for such a thing, but I accepted without raising any question. She came in at the end and sat on the bed, I finished, dried myself with the towel she gave me and there I went to the unknown.

Laura, despite being an attractive girl, is not at all engaging, she is too professional, after all she does not kiss and when I approached to touch her she told me to lie in bed. Not a very good sign. She tried to do a massage, the right word to try, because she doesn't know how to do it, and I realized that her body was full of oil. Again, not good.

She wasn't getting horny and she still decided to put on the condom and suck it that way. My member there gave an air of her grace and she rode it next. She moved a little, but not too much, I was not feeling much pleasure, I decided to change positions, told her to lie on her back on the bed, I pulled her to the edge and started kissing that young, sensual and natural body, but as I was sown with massage oil up to my feet, it was not as sweet, nor as good as it could have been.

I kissed her breasts, belly, hips and stopped at her cave and stayed there for a while. Then Laura really felt pleasure, she even grabbed my hair while she was writhing with orgasm. When I got up my horniness had come back and I started to penetrate it slowly. She pulled me close to her, touching my arms and chest as she looked at me. I think these were the only moments when she let herself be minimally involved, because she was feeling pleasure. And when a woman feels pleasure during the sexual act, the man who is with her also feels it.

We changed position to doggy style, with her on all fours and I on my knees and there I penetrated her, but as I was still a little sore from the legs of the previous day's training, I couldn't stand that position for a long time and I also lost some horniness for it. I lay down in bed there, she made me an oral there to wake up the member and without being fully awake, she decided to do a reverse cowgirl, which on other occasions would be fantastic, but as once again she decided to ride while she was not yet fully erect and as she had already returned to the most "mechanical" and professional phase of her, the thing did not work, unfortunately.

We sat on the edge of the bed, she asked if everything was okay with me or at home, I told her yes, but it shouldn't be in my days. The fact that she didn't kiss, was soaked in fula oil and only had a few minutes of some involvement, didn't help either, but I said nothing.

On my own initiative I went to take a shower, not only to refresh my ideas and put aside the less good clash with the girl, but also to clean all that oil and not get all my clothes dirty. Laura left, closed the bedroom door for her to take a shower too, I was wearing the clothes and when I was going to open the door and leave, she almost screams for me not to go out and wait. I noticed that someone else was in the house and I was waiting. When she finished she opened the door with a rolled towel and without further delay took me to the door, no kisses or anything, goodbye and wing that is late.

Moral of the story, Laura is even a sexy girl, of natural beauty, which seems to be rare in escorts, but that little attitude of hers, among other things, leave a lot to be desired. Maybe I wasn't lucky and she didn't look like me. Still, I think you could have a little more customer attention. So young and already so close to being mercenaries. A shame. It may be that other Confreres are luckier.

Overall rating: 5.

Conviviality held during the month of September 2021.

Something is just to say.

Cheers, stay safe and happy fucking to us all".

[QUOTE=Cheappy;2876382]It's rare for young Portuguese girls doing incall in Lisbon. [/QUOTE]Not at all. Quite the opposite.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2876499]Unfortunately the reviews on the local board of Diana Neves are not favorable.

Both reviews indicate that she did CBJs and were from reviewers who often list BBBJ in their reviews.

Her reviews are a 5 and a 7 out of ten.

Up to you, but I think you can find better options.

Here is one of her translated reviews

Cheers, stay safe and happy fucking to us all".[/QUOTE]Thanks for the information! I think I will pass. BBBJ is a must to me. If you have any other good suggestions, please let me know. I will report back.

[QUOTE=Cheappy;2876584]Thanks for the information! I think I will pass. BBBJ is a must to me. If you have any other good suggestions, please let me know. I will report back.[/QUOTE]I private messaged you the contact information for Rebeca Diniz, who I saw and really liked. She got all 9's and 10's in her reviews before she simply got so many repeat customers that she stopped advertising. She does still see new customers if you contact her. Great lady.

Among other ladies with a current ad who offer incall and have very solid reviews are.

[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-tati-bernardi-3753[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-eller-rocha-4428[/URL]

Tati went through a brief period of time where her reviews declined, but they have rebounded to perfect reviews, especially for anal sex.

I don't think you can go wrong with any of the four, although I did list them in the order of their review scores.

[QUOTE=Cheappy;2876584]BBBJ is a must to me.[/QUOTE]Definitely a MILF. But, right now, beyond any kind of doubt, the absolute best BBBJTC in Lisbon: [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-gabriela-sanchez-4468[/URL]. (photos of the WYSIWYG kind)

[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2876892]Definitely a MILF. But, right now, beyond any kind of doubt, the absolute best BBBJTC in Lisbon: [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-gabriela-sanchez-4468[/URL]. (photos of the WYSIWYG kind)[/QUOTE]Thanks for the intel. She is in her 50's. I don't mind MILF type but 50's is little too much for my liking. Any younger suggestion?

So your brief is 20's or 30's, incall, in Lisbon and strong BBBJ?

If I'm going to add to Mongerer's list, I want to be able to speak firsthand. I can't do that right now -- a couple of ladies retired altogether, and a couple more are gone to Brasil for the Holidays. But, I'll be dropping several reviews soon, so keep an eye out.

[QUOTE=Cheappy;2876923]Thanks for the intel. She is in her 50's. I don't mind MILF type but 50's is little too much for my liking. [/QUOTE]48, actually. Not too far but not yet 50's.

Hello Friends,

I will be in Lisbon next month and would like to have some fun.

Any reviews of legit or verified girls? Looking specially for Lara Cortez or Francini or anyone you would recommend?

Thanks.

Lara Cortez is well thought of. The locals score her highly, and she has been written up on this thread. Just read back.

If it's the Francini I think you mean (she has decent marks from the locals -- a 7,8 and 6 out of 10.

[QUOTE=RobbyPkr;2877227]Hello Friends,

I will be in Lisbon next month and would like to have some fun.

Any reviews of legit or verified girls? Looking specially for Lara Cortez or Francini or anyone you would recommend?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

I went to see Lia Aida, who in my mind had question marks hanging on her. References here were vague, and local reports have her going back and forth on the services offered. I always try to break some new ground when I have time, but none of the unknown girls I had my eye on were available; I have a long unscratched itch for South Asians, so I decided the next best thing was to get some clarity on Lia.

She doesn't offer FS. I asked and the answer was no. It's a massage with a CBJ ending. She a pretty and petite Bengali, and solicitous. But the practice was awkward to say the least. She advertises mainly as a massagista now, but she knows very little about massage and doesn't really have a plan for filling an hour up. That is one thing if you come to fuck -- the client can fill that time by taking some control; but for a massage, it's confusing and boring. Being passive is OK if it is in a format that allows for it, and this one does not.

The redeeming feature is the CBJ. Her oral technique is simply amazing, and she has everything built around it -- Lia even positions a mirror so you can see her suck your cock from another angle. Even covered, it's better than 90% of the blowjobs I've had. What that would be like without the cover, well, I don't think I'd last long enough to enjoy it properly!

My grade here is neutral. She is a bit cheaper than some competitors for that kind of thing (120/ h vs 130), and the CBJ was tops, but I wasn't pleased with the overall lack of method, shall we say.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-lia-aida-5098[/URL]

[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/aida-lia/[/URL]

Compare that to Isis. I've been to see Isis several times, and her nuru massage is the best ever. My experience of her off-day, when she wasn't that into it, is tied with my best best experience from another nuru massagista. Her on days are OMG energetic, wild and sensual. She is drop dead gorgeous, with curves that are made for nuru, and her method is very much geared around the slow build to climax. That climax, incidentally, is a TF, not HJ. She charges a little more than the going rate for this kind of thing (140 vs 130), but is worth it.

[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1188-isis-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL]

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2877351]
She doesn't offer FS. I asked and the answer was no. It's a massage with a CBJ ending.[/QUOTE]That's surely a very new and surprising attitude. On the 4 or 5 times I met her she ALWAYS did FS. And I didn't have to ask for it, it was, quite naturally on "the menu". That was up to less than a month ago.

I'll have to check on that again.

All I can do is shrug. When I inquired in the past, she was always evasive. This time it was clear as a bell. The local board reports also make it unclear whether she does or does not.

I suspect you've been grandfathered in, Kama.

[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2877384]That's surely a very new and surprising attitude. On the 4 or 5 times I met her she ALWAYS did FS. And I didn't have to ask for it, it was, quite naturally on "the menu". That was up to less than a month ago.

I'll have to check on that again.[/QUOTE]

I only found a single positive review on the local board, and that from a guy who did exactly two reviews and hasn't been heard from in months. So this was also about clarity / confirmation, and that part went very well.

Yanna is Brasilian, about 5'4" tall, and is very much the woman in the photos. Early to middle 30's, sharp features, small and perky breasts, and a very yoga-sculpted body. She speaks good English and is very accommodating.

Her massage as a massage is outstanding. The technique is sound, drawing on herbal as well as hot and cold stuff. That part is as good or better as you'll get from a regular spa. The nuru side is competent, with an HJ finish. The thing I must underline is that she builds to climax steadily, but very slowly. Her work is the total opposite of a jackhammer, finish you as fast as possible.

She also isn't a clock watcher. My hour ran to over 70 minutes, and that excludes the before and after shower. Two thumbs up for this massagista.

[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1223-yanna-costa-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL]

[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/yanna-costa/[/URL]

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2877411]I suspect you've been grandfathered in, Kama.[/QUOTE]I hope she will keep doing it...

I finally called upon Eller Rocha. I had my eye on her since her first ad appeared in Momentos de Prazer, and at long last the stars aligned.

Eller is gorgeous. Small, lithe and athletic, middle twenties, jet black hair, wonderful skin, beautiful smile. There are few women, I think, who can pull off two tattoo sleeves and a full back tat and make it stylish, but she does it. It compliments her look in person more than in the photos.

In bed, she is a good kisser and a good, accomplished fuck. Not great on either score, but good. What she does sits somewhere between GFE and PSE. The bottom line here is if you fancy what you see in the pics, then you won't come away disappointed. 150/ h incall.

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-eller-rocha-4428

P.S.

Cheappy -- here is your recent, first-person endorsement.

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2877775]I finally called upon Eller Rocha. I had my eye on her since her first ad appeared in Momentos de Prazer, and at long last the stars aligned.

Eller is gorgeous. Small, lithe and athletic, middle twenties, jet black hair, wonderful skin, beautiful smile. There are few women, I think, who can pull off two tattoo sleeves and a full back tat and make it stylish, but she does it. It compliments her look in person more than in the photos.

In bed, she is a good kisser and a good, accomplished fuck. Not great on either score, but good. What she does sits somewhere between GFE and PSE. The bottom line here is if you fancy what you see in the pics, then you won't come away disappointed. 150/ h incall.

https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-eller-rocha-4428

P.S.

Cheappy -- here is your recent, first-person endorsement.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the recommendation! How's her BBBJ skills? I'm too spoiled in many years of hobbing by many great providers. I can't take mediocre BJ skills for now.

Wet, down to the root. Thumbs up. Offered me CIM, but I declined.

She softly moans a little while doing it, which is one of the PSE things she does (no woman genuinely responds that way to giving head, even if it does turn them on).

[QUOTE=Cheappy;2877934]Thanks for the recommendation! How's her BBBJ skills? I'm too spoiled in many years of hobbing by many great providers. I can't take mediocre BJ skills for now.[/QUOTE]

Some things I observed from this last visit, and thought the thread might find useful.

First, about Nuru Spa. That follows a well-established model of FS spas in Lisbon, where the girls advertise as independents on sites like Apartadox, but they really aren't (Klass is another example). The interesting part of that here is that Nuru's website shows faces, while Apartadox shows only bodies. Lisbon is too crammed with ads to try this, not unless you are willing to put in a large chunk of work in messaging to figure out who works at the Lisbon location. But Cascais never has more than a dozen escorts at a time, and most are at Nuru. So, it is possible to take the two sources and make some guesses.

Second, I contacted this lady while exploring options:

[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1371-mia-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL]

First, the rates she offered were well above standard for the services offered. That means she was either putting a tourist tax on me (despite my messaging in Portuguese) or she is very overpriced. She defends that pricing by suggesting she has excellent skills, but really? The best girls in that class ask for a little more, like 10 euros above standard.

She also does the "surprise massage" thing, where she suggests extras may be available for an even higher rate, but is evasive about what those extras are.

That is a handful of red flags, insofar as I'm concerned. There are no reviews of her anywhere I've seen, and maybe the basic work is great, but the whole thing screams mercenary scam at me -- the type looking for suckers to milk of their cash.

Rebeca Diniz is now running an ad and has changed her phone number.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-rebeca-diniz-6364[/URL]

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2811908]A couple of reports of mine from a recent trip.

The highlight of my trip was Rebeca Diniz, who goes by Becky.

I wish of course that I could post a link.

But she has not run an ad for a good long time.

The good news is that she is accepting new customers who contact her via WhatsApp. She just doesn't run an ad because she is getting plenty of business from regulars and referrals.

I will post a link when she runs a new ad, but anyone is welcome to PM me here for contact information.

I got intrigued when she got about ten reviews on the local board that were all 9's and 10's out of 10.

That is unheard of on the local board, which has more negativism than most review boards.

She deserves those high marks. She is a tremendous provider.

I had contacted her several months before my trip, and instead of blowing me off like most providers do when I contact them well in advance, she accepted a booking and put it in her calendar. She is very prompt and responsive to messages, and she speaks and writes fluent English. She contacted me a week before, then a day before the appointment, to reconfirm..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2879008]Rebeca Diniz is now running an ad and has changed her phone number.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-rebeca-diniz-6364[/URL][/QUOTE]What kind of rates is she charging?

[QUOTE=Aht169;2879212]What kind of rates is she charging?[/QUOTE]Best just to send her a WhatsApp message and ask.

Apartadox doesn't allow rates to be listed, and I don't know if what I paid is still valid.

I assume it is, but there is always inflation to consider.

150 for 1 hour incall and 200 for an hour's outcall. So she's more expensive than the EscortPrivada outcall rate.

I'm intrigued as to why a well established lady with a long regular client list and no active ad, would suddenly change her telephone number and start an ad?

[QUOTE=Aht169;2879212]What kind of rates is she charging?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Harry1217;2879283]150 for 1 hour incall and 200 for an hour's outcall. So she's more expensive than the EscortPrivada outcall rate.

I'm intrigued as to why a well established lady with a long regular client list and no active ad, would suddenly change her telephone number and start an ad?[/QUOTE]Usually because like all of us they occasionally fuck up.

Once they forget and use the work number for something personal, it becomes more likely that a reverse search will yield their real name.

I have known many escorts who changed a number following an oh shit moment where they Google their work number and their real name pops up.

Or they sign up for one of those paid search companies and discover their identity is associated with both their personal number and their work number.

Two well-regarded ladies just came back to the scene.

First, Emily Carter is not just active again, but did her first new verified photoshoot in at least a couple of years.

[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/emily-carter/[/URL]

And the most excellent Aurora Vaz is taking calls again:

[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/escort/aurora-vaz[/URL]

Fair enough. I guess it was also the starting of an ad at the same time which added to the curiosity. We can only speculate that her client list of regulars may have declined.

Certainly nothing underhand or any concerns over her service, partly as she didn't change her name, but mainly due to her having 3 positive reviews on the local board in the last few days!

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2879303]Usually because like all of us they occasionally fuck up.

Once they forget and use the work number for something personal, it becomes more likely that a reverse search will yield their real name.

I have known many escorts who changed a number following an oh shit moment where they Google their work number and their real name pops up.

Or they sign up for one of those paid search companies and discover their identity is associated with both their personal number and their work number.[/QUOTE]

Hi everyone,

I am planning my next stay in Lisbon and just wanted to cross-check my current list of potential escorts.

So right now I have.

Celine Luz.

Viviane Miller.

Sabrina Avelar.

Flora Neves.

They all should be on the „young" side (you never know especially with EP how accurate the advertised age is).

I also have in the list.

Lara Cortez.

Francisca Vilar (would be a repeated visit).

Joanna Montenegro.

These three I think are closer to 30 than 18 but I read good things about them (or had a very nice first hand experience).

I do believe the list is quite solid? Any other young ones (as close to 18 as possible) with good English skills that I have forgotten? Are there any Ebony ladies that can be recommended? I had a duo with Deborah Dias but I do not think that her English could carry a 2 h session.

I think you're solid.

The only caveat I see if Celine and Sabrina are less reported on than the others. So the reports are positive, but not strongly cross referenced. It will probably be fine, but it's something to consider.

[QUOTE=Front604;2879892]Hi everyone,

I am planning my next stay in Lisbon and just wanted to cross-check my current list of potential escorts.

So right now I have.

Celine Luz.

Viviane Miller.

Sabrina Avelar.

Flora Neves.

They all should be on the young" side (you never know especially with EP how accurate the advertised age is).

I also have in the list.

Lara Cortez.

Francisca Vilar (would be a repeated visit).

Joanna Montenegro.

These three I think are closer to 30 than 18 but I read good things about them (or had a very nice first hand experience).

I do believe the list is quite solid? Any other young ones (as close to 18 as possible) with good English skills that I have forgotten? Are there any Ebony ladies that can be recommended? I had a duo with Deborah Dias but I do not think that her English could carry a 2 h session.[/QUOTE]

I also think it is an excellent list. Viviane Miller has more reviews than Celine Luz does, so you might take that into consideration.

I am mostly responding because this morning one of the posters on the local board, a guy who has seen a great number of the EP ladies, did an 8 out of 10 review of Patricia de Sa' of EP, which is her first review that I have seen. That is an excellent score from him. He confirmed that she is in the 20-year old range and he said her BBBJ was the best he has received from any EP provider. So you might consider adding her to your list somewhere.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/patricia-de-sa/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-patricia-de-sa-8064[/URL]

[QUOTE=Front604;2879892]Hi everyone,

I am planning my next stay in Lisbon and just wanted to cross-check my current list of potential escorts.

So right now I have.

Celine Luz.

Viviane Miller.

Sabrina Avelar.

Flora Neves.

They all should be on the young" side (you never know especially with EP how accurate the advertised age is).

I also have in the list.

Lara Cortez.

Francisca Vilar (would be a repeated visit).

Joanna Montenegro.

These three I think are closer to 30 than 18 but I read good things about them (or had a very nice first hand experience).

I do believe the list is quite solid? Any other young ones (as close to 18 as possible) with good English skills that I have forgotten? Are there any Ebony ladies that can be recommended? I had a duo with Deborah Dias but I do not think that her English could carry a 2 h session.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2877411]All I can do is shrug. When I inquired in the past, she was always evasive. This time it was clear as a bell. The local board reports also make it unclear whether she does or does not.

I suspect you've been grandfathered in, Kama.[/QUOTE]I'd very much appreciate an authoritative verification from granpa KamaLeao. Aida has been on my list / dream for a while. Very evasive indeed.

[QUOTE=Pecadozinho;2881238]I'd very much appreciate an authoritative verification from granpa KamaLeao. Aida has been on my list / dream for a while. Very evasive indeed.[/QUOTE]Up to, say, a month ago, it was always BBBJ and FS (and quite good at that). I haven't seen her since. It will be my first new year resolution.

I think the real question is what she is doing for those of us who aren't Kama. My visit was in December, so following on Kama by a matter of a few weeks at most. She didn't just up and change her roster, and her ambiguity about services offered goes back a year -- and she was quite firm about CBJ on the spot and quite clear about no FS in messaging.

As I see it, there are two possibilities: her thing is YMMV or she offers full service to long standing clients only. As I said, Kama is grandfathered in, one way or the other.

So I expect when he goes, he will probably get full service again. It's what happens with somebody else that confirms things. But this is LISBON. We shouldn't be required to deal with ambiguity like that.

Frankly, I only wound up with her because she was the only one on my list available at the time I required. She was at the bottom of that list because of her ambiguities and evasiveness, and stayed on it only because she is Bengali. I was never comfortable with her evasiveness regarding services offered, and that is keeping in mind that I am absolutely fine with an awesome erotic massage and HJ, so long as both are high quality. The ambiguity kept me away for a long time, because I had other ladies to see. It was a yellow flag, and given how mixed I feel about the whole thing, I won't make that mistake again.

[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2881471]Up to, say, a month ago, it was always BBBJ and FS (and quite good at that). I haven't seen her since. It will be my first new year resolution.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2880221]I also think it is an excellent list. Viviane Miller has more reviews than Celine Luz does, so you might take that into consideration.

I am mostly responding because this morning one of the posters on the local board, a guy who has seen a great number of the EP ladies, did an 8 out of 10 review of Patricia de Sa' of EP, which is her first review that I have seen. That is an excellent score from him. He confirmed that she is in the 20-year old range and he said her BBBJ was the best he has received from any EP provider. So you might consider adding her to your list somewhere.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/patricia-de-sa/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-patricia-de-sa-8064[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for the info! Will definitely put her on the list. I also read something positive about Margarida Alves?

Been reading all the great info for down in Lisbon, and very grateful for the nuance and finding just the right person, you guys are awesome. I am up in Caldas the Rainha for a month. And I don't know what I was expecting, I guess more variety in menus. Maybe I am looking in the wrong places, but every ad I see is either fake or outdated pictures, same menu,. Where can a fellow go to find some fetish options without offending the provider community as it is? Even with all the reading I have done, I have not really found out how to enquire about options. ClasificadosX is the only remotely updated one I can find for Here. Any other suggestions? Thanks again for all the input on the site.

[QUOTE=Front604;2881663]Thanks for the info! Will definitely put her on the list. I also read something positive about Margarida Alves?[/QUOTE]Yes, Margarida Alves of EP received a solid 8 out if 10 from a reviewer with four reviews on the local board, and that was as high as any score he has given. He confirmed that Margarida offers BBBJ and CIM. Here is the translated review:

" I admit that sometimes I am amazed by the intensity of certain girls in the ep: those that we twist our noses to the photos end up having to compensate with an exemplary attitude. And so it was this time. Margarida is what the photos present, it seems to me more Cape Verdean of features. It has a favela air but it doesn't bring the tricks from there. Although Brazilian, her Portuguese is lost grammatically because it has an Italian vein. Nothing that doesn't get over. It's not freight and likes sex, she admitted it. She's a genuine girlfriend, she gets lost in kisses in all positions. I liked it, maybe I'll do it again.

Arriving in the room stuck my tongue in my esophagus. So without further ado, two minutes if so much. I have an oral fixation, I loved it, of course. Let's take a shower, always make out. Bed. I had to pamper her bifana with interfolios. It has a large and very sensitive clitoris: the best of hers. Intense sex, very present, a lot of involvement, great interaction, does not deny anything. Finally she bathed the material with drooling and spit, until I end up big in her mouth. Ganda broche. Give the washer for 50 bullets and if the game wasn't so expensive by then I would go, but I didn't go, I was playing with it of 4, you can see that you like it.

He didn't even ask for the guito. He saw that he was in the dresser and that's it, he only moved him moments after bathing, a good time after the time. The attention is entirely on the customer's need. And that's how it's done: it didn't even seem to me to be with a Gp, but with a friend. Enjoy it, and do yourself a good favor. ".

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/margarida-alves/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-margarida-alves-8376[/URL]

And while I am copying over favorable reviews, I should mention that the British board's Punting Abroad section had a notable review of Jude on Eurogirls.

[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/jude/320571/[/URL]

Now before everyone goes blasting, no, I do not think that the independent ladies in Eurogirls are worth the premium price of Escort Privada or the independents on Apartadox. But we all make different decisions regarding pricing, and any good performance review deserves mention. Here is Jude's review from the British board, with thanks to the guy who wrote it.

" I had a business trip to Lisbon come up but it was a short one night stay so I wanted to get something booked in advance so I wasn't faffing about. I found Jude's profile and pinged her on Telegram proposing a session which she accepted.

Time: 2 Hours.

Price: €520.

Location: Outcall to my hotel.

Extras: None and none expected.

Services: DFK, OWO, rimming (both ways), sex in multiple positions, masturbation and toy show.

The meet:

Before confirming, she sent me some face pics and asked if I was still happy to meet (hell yes! Confirmed with her when I landed. Outcall to my hotel. I met Jude in the lobby and walked up together to my room since the lifts had keycards. She had told me before she wears minimal makeup and normal clothes. She looked sensational!

Up to the room and after the usual freshening up, we had a chat and started with a bit of touching that turned into kissing which turned into DFK and we were off. We were kissing all over. She does this unique thing where she puts her tongue in your ear. Sounds strange but it was quite hot. Jude then gave me some fantastic OWO paying a lot of attention to the balls then went down and rimmed me out for a while and back to OWO. I went to return the favor with some prolonged oral on her. No smells and a delicious taste. She seemed to climax several times judging by the shuddering, gushing oussy juice and spasms she then pushed me on my back again and went back down on me until I came in her mouth. Off to the bathroom for a spit and mouth wash and that was the end of round one.

Round two started with her breaking out some of the toys she brought and getting herself going which was, I have to say, pretty fuckong hot to watch. This went on for a bit. Whilst she used a clit suction device, she gave me a dildo to fuck her with. She then got me hard again with OWO and on with the bag. Energetic sex in multiple positions until I came in the bag.

We both had a bit of a cleanup, clothes back on a kiss and she was off into the night.

Would I see her again? Absolutely. Whilst not cheap, it was excellent value for money. Jude was enthusiastic and a pleasure to spend time with. ".

I just came back from Lisbon & Porto trip, it's a great trip overall! I saw 3 chicas in this trip, 2 good ones and 1 bad. The bad one first, I arrived in Lisbon on the 24th, prior to my arrival, I had what's apped Bia Santos for her availability on Christmas day. She said she can see me on Christmas, since she remembers me from my last visit. Unfortunately, she has some unexpected personal reason she canceled our meet last min. I was horny as hell and I knew it will be hard to find girls on Christmas day. So, I was what's apping an HR, finally I found this Bia Novais working that day. She wasn't my lists from my research prior my trip but she is the only girl replied. My small head was taking over the big one, I hop on urber expecting to have a 30 minutes fun. The girl wasn't the same one from the picture, but my small head kept telling me going for it, it's only 80 . It ended up having a few minutes of BBBJ, in and out the place in 15 minutes max. The girl Bia wasn't even shower, I could smell her sweat. I can't even going down on her because of her smell. That's bad move for me.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-bia-novais-7739[/URL]

The next one is Rebeca Diniz aka Becky.

This one I need to thanks Mongerer 88 for the recommendation! I owe you one M 88! Becky is a GFE materials for sure. After that Bia Novias girl, I got Becky replying back next day, so we had booked a meet after I came back from Porto. When the day came, I m not disappointed what she looks! She is a young good looking girl with a body to die for! We started off kissing each other and long forth play. She even cummed twice when I went down on her. The downside isn't her but it's on me. Over years I was spoiled by many great providers with porn star style BJ skills. However, Becky's BJ skills is good but it's kind of gentle GFE type. I wasn't got aroused as much. In the big event, we started off anal but it's not successful so we changed to traditional! I was pounding her for good 20 minutes but I can't cum. So I asked her to use hand and planning to cum on her face, but another 10 minutes went by, I still couldn't cum. I checked the time and it's little over and I believed her hands were getting sore as well. So, I told her to terminate it and ended the session without cumming. Even, I wasn't able to cum on her but I still had a great time with her from all the forth playing and pounding! She is a genuine GFE type provider. She only does 1 HR minimum 150/ HR.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-rebeca-diniz-6364[/URL]

The last one is my old good Bia Santos.

I saw Bia twice from my last trip, this was the third time I saw her. After the first cancellation, I was able to reschedule from her after Becky.

When she opened the door, we started kissing like long time lover! I have to admit it, she has gained few pounds from my last visit but she still looks hot to me. When I went down on her, she was moaning crazy loud! Then she gave me Porn star style BJ which I was craving for it. The next thing she did was pussy riding on my hard cock! I felt we are doing bare, it's so hot. I needed to stop her after few minutes of riding before I reach the point of no return. Then I started fucking her ass for 10 minutes and we switched to frontal. Since Becky experience, I don't want her having a sore ass next day. It's another good pound for about 10 minutes, I finally exploded in her pussy! That's amazing cum since I couldn't cum with Becky. I don't know why, Bia can always do the magic! Bia charge me 100 for 45 minutes.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-bia-santos-5091[/URL]

Hello, I currently live in Lisbon and I have been lurking here for a few months to discover some good girls. I also lurk the portuguese forum, but my opinion from there is that they basically want the more bang for the buck girls, as in girls that do everything for the lowest price possible. In my case I usually look for girls that are my type, regardless of the price. As this is my first post here, this is my opinion, so take it with a grain of salt.

Regarding the EP girls (I see that they have increased the price this year to 200 EUR / hour, but I paid 150 as it was last year and 2022:

Lisbon:

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/celine-luz/[/URL]

Really great body, made me feel very confortable although it was not communicative. I did not like her face too much, but oral without condom was good. Sex also great, we did a few positions and she seemed to be enjoying it. 8/10.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/manuela-goncalves/[/URL]

Again with a really great body. Some tatoos not shown on pictures. Oral without condom, but did not spoke much and did not seem much into it, although did not refuse or anything. Pretty face, but 6/10 as I prefer GFE.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/iris-freitas/[/URL]

Had a petite and natural body, with small tits, but recently has put silicone, but still a great body. I just love her face, although she is sure not 19 her face is very young and delicate. Oral without condom was very good. She is also very energetic and really seems to enjoy it, sometimes even asking to go harder or slap her. Likes to talk a lot, but if you don't start she will usually start by herself at the 30 min mark. 8/10.

Porto:

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/erica-nantes/[/URL]

Small ass, very good natural tits, face not that pretty. Oral without condom, did not like her oral, still had some teeth on it. Likes to talk too, but still seemed to not actually trust me, not sure how to say it. Sex was ok, although she seemed tired and wanted me to lead it. Will not go back. 5/10.

Regarding independent escorts, I also enjoyed some both in Lisbon in Porto. Just check before because they usually don't speak english.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-julieta-6070[/URL]

Very beautiful girl with a great body. Oral with condom. Unfortunately seems to think its a new star with prices going up to 160 EUR for a incall. Went a few months ago and it was great. Tried to go recently, was hard to schedule and since it was over 10 PM, she seemed very tired and just wanted to finish it as soon as possible. Will not go again unless someone says she went back the old ways. 4/10.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-lara-silva-7529[/URL]

Not what I usually like, since she is a bit chubby, but went for the tits anyway. Price was 120/ h. Oral with condom ok. Sex was also good although she seemed a bit heavy for me. Best part was cum on tits. 6/10.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-alexia-herrera-8270[/URL]

Very petite and slim, small natural tits. Price was 150/ h for incall. Oral without condom, although not really good. Paid for one hour, but finished in around 20 minutes. She throw me a towel to take a bath and starts dressing up. No massage or anything, not even asked if I wanted again. Will not go back. 4/10 just for the body.

Porto:

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-chloe-dinis-7915[/URL]

Beautiful body and that ass is a dream. Good massage, oral with condom ok, sex was also good, suggested a few positions and all. At the moment my go to when I go to Porto. Price is 130/ h for incall. 8/10.

I guess that's it. I also went to other girls but they are not available in Portugal anymore. If they come back I may write about then.

[QUOTE=Cheappy;2882812]I just came back from Lisbon & Porto trip, it's a great trip overall! I saw 3 chicas in this trip, 2 good ones and 1 bad. The bad one first, I arrived in Lisbon on the 24th, prior to my arrival, I had what's apped Bia Santos for her availability on Christmas day. She said she can see me on Christmas, since she remembers me from my last visit. Unfortunately, she has some unexpected personal reason she canceled our meet last min. I was horny as hell and I knew it will be hard to find girls on Christmas day. So, I was what's apping an HR, finally I found this Bia Novais working that day. She wasn't my lists from my research prior my trip but she is the only girl replied. My small head was taking over the big one, I hop on urber expecting to have a 30 minutes fun. The girl wasn't the same one from the picture, but my small head kept telling me going for it, it's only 80 . It ended up having a few minutes of BBBJ, in and out the place in 15 minutes max. The girl Bia wasn't even shower, I could smell her sweat. I can't even going down on her because of her smell. That's bad move for me.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-bia-novais-7739[/URL]

The next one is Rebeca Diniz aka Becky.

This one I need to thanks Mongerer 88 for the recommendation! I owe you one M 88! Becky is a GFE materials for sure. After that Bia Novias girl, I got Becky replying back next day, so we had booked a meet after I came back from Porto. When the day came, I m not disappointed what she looks! She is a young good looking girl with a body to die for! We started off kissing each other and long forth play. She even cummed twice when I went down on her. The downside isn't her but it's on me. Over years I was spoiled by many great providers with porn star style BJ skills. However, Becky's BJ skills is good but it's kind of gentle GFE type. I wasn't got aroused as much. In the big event, we started off anal but it's not successful so we changed to traditional! I was pounding her for good 20 minutes but I can't cum. So I asked her to use hand and planning to cum on her face, but another 10 minutes went by, I still couldn't cum. I checked the time and it's little over and I believed her hands were getting sore as well. So, I told her to terminate it and ended the session without cumming. Even, I wasn't able to cum on her but I still had a great time with her from all the forth playing and pounding! She is a genuine GFE type provider. She only does 1 HR minimum 150/ HR.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-rebeca-diniz-6364[/URL]

The last one is my old good Bia Santos.

I saw Bia twice from my last trip, this was the third time I saw her. After the first cancellation, I was able to reschedule from her after Becky.

When she opened the door, we started kissing like long time lover! I have to admit it, she has gained few pounds from my last visit but she still looks hot to me. When I went down on her, she was moaning crazy loud! Then she gave me Porn star style BJ which I was craving for it. The next thing she did was pussy riding on my hard cock! I felt we are doing bare, it's so hot. I needed to stop her after few minutes of riding before I reach the point of no return. Then I started fucking her ass for 10 minutes and we switched to frontal. Since Becky experience, I don't want her having a sore ass next day. It's another good pound for about 10 minutes, I finally exploded in her pussy! That's amazing cum since I couldn't cum with Becky. I don't know why, Bia can always do the magic! Bia charge me 100 for 45 minutes.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-bia-santos-5091[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for a great report.

Re: Rebeca Diniz. Does the 150/ h fare include the anal service?

Hmm. With that Price increase Outcall in BCN (will stay there before going to LIS) becomes a bit more attractive now considering Blue Velvet charges the Same for 1 h but only 350 for 2 h.

[QUOTE=Pecadozinho;2883032]Thanks for a great report.

Re: Rebeca Diniz. Does the 150/ h fare include the anal service?[/QUOTE]Yes, it's included! She was trying very hard. In my case, it wasn't successful because it was my problem.

A while back, I told you fellas to enjoy EP at 150/ h, because it would not last. I'm surprised they went all the way up to 200, though.

For some perspective, in the late 2010's, pricing in and around Lisbon worked like this. EP was asking 150/ h. The average incall was 100/ h, the girls who thought they qere worth more wanted 120, and with HJ nuru massages going for 80.

When the average incall jumped from 100 to 150 (there are still some excellent providers around asking 120/ h), EP suddenly became very competitive. I know for my part, I went from calling them only when I actually couldn't go out for incall easily to choosing purely by preference. Good times.

Now I'll go back to mostly incall. It's the math. Four incall hours costs the same as three outcall hours. Moreover, many incall ladies are asking for 200/ h for their outcall services, so if that is what I must pay, the roster for that kind of service got a lot wider. That is why I'm surprised they went all the way up to 200 -- they scratched out their own competitive price advantage. 170 or 180 would have made more sense, and is less shocking than a 33% increase.

Of course, the independent outcall-only girls (Flora, Catia, Frederica, Carolina) will all no doubt go to 200 or higher.

I'm not a cheapskate, but it's also not fun to get jipped. So, a word to the wise: check what the going rate is first. Don't get conned -- there will certainly be some fluctuations coming.

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2883187](there are still some excellent providers around asking 120/ h)[/QUOTE]"There are still some excellent providers around asking 120/ h". That's what is important not to forget. And I mean excelent. And, in some cases, even less than that and still excellent. And I mean excelent.

But if you refuse to see beyond the EP horizon, things will get more difficult, that's for sure.

Hey all! In Lisbon for a week in the Barrio Alto (area. Any recommendations on a good massage parlor that you can also get an he? Thanks!

Yup. I suppose the thing is that this particular part of the story has come full circle for me. Once upon a time, having a hotel room in central Lisbon was a given, but EP / outcalls generally were relatively expensive. So, I rarely used them. Then incalls and EP equalized for a run of a few years, so I did both, depending on my fancies and circumstances. Now EP / outcalls are relatively expensive again, so I doubt I will be using them much.

[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2883486]"There are still some excellent providers around asking 120/ h". That's what is important not to forget. And I mean excelent. And, in some cases, even less than that and still excellent. And I mean excelent.

But if you refuse to see beyond the EP horizon, things will get more difficult, that's for sure.[/QUOTE]

I don't recall anyone who is working specifically in Barrio Alto or an immediately adjacent neighborhood at this time, so nothing in walking distance. I'd be interested to know if anyone remembers someone who is in that area. The nearest I recollect from inquiries is over in Graca, and if you are going that far you may as well Uber / Bolt / Metro over to where most of the action is: the zone between Marques de Pombal and Entrecampos.

In terms of spas, there are three that reliably offer massage with FS: L'Essence, Nuru and Klass. Their combined roster is pretty long. If I remember correctly, Dara and Carolina at L'Essence were reviewed locally and got good marks. I don't remember about any of the girls at Klass or Nuru, due to issues with having to identify them from various ads. It is sometimes confusing.

If you are thinking of a nuru massage with HJ ending or similar, I recommend two independents over going to any spa.

[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1188-isis-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL]

[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1223-yanna-costa-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL]

[QUOTE=Deexy;2883529]Hey all! In Lisbon for a week in the Barrio Alto (area. Any recommendations on a good massage parlor that you can also get an he? Thanks![/QUOTE]

Well, what an increase by EP! 33% in one whack is not to be sniffed at. Basically at 200/ HR it means that people who may have preferred Portugal to other countries, may now opt to visit other countries more.

As mentioned in the comments below, there are excellent incall providers at 100-120 / HR and that is still a competitive rate compared to other european countries. So if you don't have a great preference for outcall, it perhaps doesn't change things that much given the number of EP ladies is relatively small in comparison to the total number of girls working in Lisbon. Lets just hope the EP move doesn't trigger price rises across the board, including incalls!!

I very much prefer outcalls in a nice hotel room, rather than an incall in perhaps not the most luxurious of surroundings. It completely changes the ambience of a meeting, but that's just my personal preference.

I also generally liked EP for a number of reasons which we touched upon before.

Paying an extra 50/ HR is no issue for me, and well within my affordability. So I certainly won't stop visiting Lisbon but my plan to go 3 or 4 times this year may now be just once or twice, because 200/ HR just changes the mindset even if you can afford it. Who doesn't like to feel they are getting a good deal?! The fact that I like Lisbon as a city does help. I also like to view things positively and it'll force me to explore other countries! (though I'm sure I won't stray too far and will probably stick to Iberia).

What's the difference if the same girl list on both EP and ApartadoX?

Is ApartadoX more like incalls and EP purely outcalls?

If both are outcalls, then will there be difference in rates?

I agree with the other posters, that 200 E / HR would make Lisbon less attractive compared to Barcelona and Madrid.

[QUOTE=Austin28;2884008]What's the difference if the same girl list on both EP and ApartadoX?

Is ApartadoX more like incalls and EP purely outcalls?

If both are outcalls, then will there be difference in rates?

I agree with the other posters, that 200 E / HR would make Lisbon less attractive compared to Barcelona and Madrid.[/QUOTE]There isn't any difference at all.

EP and its ladies are outcall only.

EP has its own website featuring all of the ladies, and individual ads are taken out for the escorts on Apartadox and other sites like HappyEscorts.

When a lady first works with EP, an Apartadox ad almost always immediately appears.

Later in her career, the escort's Apartadox ad is more likely to appear when she is planning to regularly be on the schedule. Presumably this is because, according to what various EP escorts have told customers, is that once she is more established, she pays for a larger share of her Apartadox ad.

Inflation is a way of life in this business in recent years in all markets, especially in Europe and North America. Sex workers have inflation in their lives, including their work costs.

It will be great for customers if the Lisbon independents, particularly the younger ones, don't continue to increase their prices. But I am doubtful of that.

EP's base price has not increased since the group was formed around a decade ago.

My income has gone up since then, and my daily living costs sure have, too.

We all want the lowest prices, with the same looks and service level, but that isn't realistic. The best sex workers do this activity because they can earn mire money and have more flexibility than what are often called "civilian" jobs. The pay and flexibility for those alternative jobs has increased, which is the biggest driver of sex work inflation.

Escort Privada is an outcall agency. All their roster is outcall; they charge a standardized rate; and have their own website.

Apartadox is an escort advertising site, not an agency. EP advertises their entire roster on Apartadox, but Apartadox has many, many more ladies advertising with them than just EP. Their clients represent a mix of incall and outcall or both, and operate in many Portuguese cities that EP does not. They also do their own photos, and because EP always runs ads on Apartadox, all of EP's photoshoots are done by Apartadox.

EP hiked their rate to 200/ HR on January 1st, which really just brings it into line with what most of the primarily incall ladies were asking for to do an outcall. It's not that escorts generally cost 200/ HR in Lisbon; incall with a photo-verified lady runs 120-150/ HR. IMO, it makes outcall generally non-competitive, but I'm fine with 150 for incall.

It remains to be seen if and to what level the independent outcall girls will raise their rates to. Most of them are ex-EP girls, so I think it unlikely they will remain below the EP rate, even though they keep the entire fee (as independents; EP takes a cut of the action). Unlikely, but they would be wise to settle at 170 or 180 -- a sweet spot for them would be more than incall, but less than EP. But that sort of business sense escapes a lot of people, not just working girls.

I don't have a lot of experience with Spain, and none post-pandemic, but when I was there what I discovered was that Lisbon and Porto were either equal to or just a little cheaper for ladies of the same quality. And a quick check I just did (hardly conclusive, but still) suggests that is still true.

[QUOTE=Austin28;2884008]What's the difference if the same girl list on both EP and ApartadoX?

Is ApartadoX more like incalls and EP purely outcalls?

If both are outcalls, then will there be difference in rates?

I agree with the other posters, that 200 E / HR would make Lisbon less attractive compared to Barcelona and Madrid.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2884082]Escort Privada is an outcall agency. All their roster is outcall; they charge a standardized rate; and have their own website.

Apartadox is an escort advertising site, not an agency. EP advertises their entire roster on Apartadox, but Apartadox has many, many more ladies advertising with them than just EP. Their clients represent a mix of incall and outcall or both, and operate in many Portuguese cities that EP does not. They also do their own photos, and because EP always runs ads on Apartadox, all of EP's photoshoots are done by Apartadox.

EP hiked their rate to 200/ HR on January 1st, which really just brings it into line with what most of the primarily incall ladies were asking for to do an outcall. It's not that escorts generally cost 200/ HR in Lisbon; incall with a photo-verified lady runs 120-150/ HR. IMO, it makes outcall generally non-competitive, but I'm fine with 150 for incall.

It remains to be seen if and to what level the independent outcall girls will raise their rates to. Most of them are ex-EP girls, so I think it unlikely they will remain below the EP rate, even though they keep the entire fee (as independents; EP takes a cut of the action). Unlikely, but they would be wise to settle at 170 or 180 -- a sweet spot for them would be more than incall, but less than EP. But that sort of business sense escapes a lot of people, not just working girls..[/QUOTE]Thank you for the detailed response. Really helpful.

Absolutely, it now brings Madrid and Barcelona into play a lot more for some of us. There are arguably hotter girls in Spain doing outcall for 200/ HR (and a bigger selection to choose from). There are also several places in Madrid and Barcelona doing incall for 100-120/ HR.

Whilst I can understand the need to increase prices, I don't buy the argument that inflation and cost of living meant a need to increase prices to 200/ HR. They have increased to that level because they believe there is sufficient demand from customers to warrant it. That's their business decision, but as tourists we obviously have other avenues.

[QUOTE=Austin28;2884008]


I agree with the other posters, that 200 E / HR would make Lisbon less attractive compared to Barcelona and Madrid.[/QUOTE]

What are peoples experiences with the few Cape Verde girls on the escort sites? I have a growing love for the darker skin. But, know nothing about the general personality of Cape Verde women. Are they scammers or girls with good hearts? Any particular recommendations would be appreciated via PM or post.

Cheers. Mick.

[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2884336]What are peoples experiences with the few Cape Verde girls on the escort sites? I have a growing love for the darker skin. But, know nothing about the general personality of Cape Verde women. Are they scammers or girls with good hearts? Any particular recommendations would be appreciated via PM or post.

Cheers. Mick.[/QUOTE]Can anyone provide any information on these ebony girls, or suggest where I might find information. - Cheers Mick.

Yara Cohen, 28, Brazilian.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-yara-cohen-4950[/URL]

Rafaela 18 A*.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/rafaela-ouro/[/URL]

Telma Vaz (also advertise as duo with another black girl), 19 A*.

[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/telma-vaz/553012/?list=q93xbd[/URL]

Beatriz Fernandes 18.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-beatriz-fernandes-8391[/URL]

[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2884381]Can anyone provide any information on these ebony girls, or suggest where I might find information. - Cheers Mick.

Yara Cohen, 28, Brazilian.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-yara-cohen-4950[/URL]

Rafaela 18 A*.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/rafaela-ouro/[/URL]

Telma Vaz (also advertise as duo with another black girl), 19 A*.

[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/telma-vaz/553012/?list=q93xbd[/URL]

Beatriz Fernandes 18.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-beatriz-fernandes-8391[/URL][/QUOTE]Photos if this jogs anyone's memory.

Thank you again for any help. I haven't contributed here, but have a decade of posts in the Asia forums. And, I WILL report back!

[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2884383]Photos if this jogs anyone's memory.

Thank you again for any help. I haven't contributed here, but have a decade of posts in the Asia forums. And, I WILL report back![/QUOTE]I mean they wouldn’t put up fake photos would they? Never happens.

[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2884381]Can anyone provide any information on these ebony girls, or suggest where I might find information. - Cheers Mick.

Yara Cohen, 28, Brazilian.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-yara-cohen-4950[/URL]

...[/QUOTE]Yara Cohen strung me along and made me waste a whole day.

[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2884381]Can anyone provide any information on these ebony girls, or suggest where I might find information. - Cheers Mick.

Yara Cohen, 28, Brazilian.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-yara-cohen-4950[/URL]

Rafaela 18 A*.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/rafaela-ouro/[/URL]

Telma Vaz (also advertise as duo with another black girl), 19 A*.

[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/telma-vaz/553012/?list=q93xbd[/URL]

Beatriz Fernandes 18.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-beatriz-fernandes-8391[/URL][/QUOTE]On your list, with the exception of Yara Cohen, who XXL has now warned you about, Telma Vaz is also unfortunately on the Likely Do Not See list. Telma received a negative review on this board and a mediocre 3 out of 10 pm on her one review on the local board. Here is a translated version of Telma Vaz local board review:

" TD done more than two weeks ago. Trip to the hotel and easy appointment with some advance.

It was the worst experience I had with the EP. Then taking into account the amount paid, even worse.

He took a shower on arrival, nothing to say about hygiene. The rehearsal deceives a lot, his chest is depressed and with some stretch marks and his tail is more empty and also with stretch marks. There are also some pimples on his face.

We started with some making out and let him move everything, he just doesn't let him put his fingers in. In the oral it is very bad, he spent a minute or two jerking off with two or three licks in the middle. You can't even warm it up. Then we tried some positions but I was either not comfortable or I was immediately tired. He pulled the fight straight to the doggy, and it was just there.

I'm fed up with that I asked CIM or CIF to end that suffering and I had to show the whatsapp messages in which the operator said it was ok to finish with a CIF of the saddest there is.

He says he does anal but didn't want to burn more money.

Finally the worst part. After the shower at the end I started to hear noises coming from someone's bathroom hitting something on the bench. I went to see if everything was okay and that's when I saw her sniffing something, I don't know if it was cocaine. It came out as if it were nothing. ".

I find no reviews yet if either Rafaela Oura or Beatriz Fernandes. They are both EP ladies, and if you see either of them, any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

If you want the confidence of prior favorable and trustable reviews, for darker-skinned young, fit ladies, I think you should focus on the following:

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/patricia-de-sa/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-patricia-de-sa-8064[/URL]

Here is the translated local review of Patricia de Sa:

"Good afternoon, Confrades.

Below is Patrícia's technical data sheet.

Nationality: Portuguese.

Photos: Fidedignas.

Height: 1. 72 m well measured.

Hair: Brown.

Weight: 61 kg very heavy.

Skin: Brunette.

Body: It is skinny with the kindness of the very present youth.

Breast: Natural, small and firm.

Vagina: Good, tight.

Tail: Medium, round and firm.

Oral: 11/10.

Vaginal: 6/10.

Anal: -/10.

Kiss: Kiss well.

Attitude: Very polite, friendly and a little introverted at first.

Hygiene: I didn't see her do it, but it was fragrant.

Place of service: Motel.

Repetition: I will repeat.

Conclusion:

The communication and appointment with the GP was all made by Whats App, always friendly and accessible to answer all questions.

It comes to the moment of the meeting and a girl dressed discreetly appears, and after some conversation the memory is delivered and the clash begins.

It complies with what is agreed, does the best oral to the natural ever, something worthy of seventh art. Eyes in eyes, an impressive cadence, quite frilly and forced against the throat, with the right to muscle reflex in the throat, red eyes with tears and my hands never got out of bed. Really impressive. The vaginal is reasonable but it is already at a cost because the heating was magnificent.

The GP is very polite and seems to like what she does a lot.

I will repeat it again because this oral is an impressive thing. ".

If Black or dark-skinned is not a must, the overall highest-rated young lady at EP is Vivian Miler. Some white girls know how to fuck, too.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/viviane-miler/[/URL]

Flora Neves once once one of the highest-rated EP ladies who has now gone independent. She probably comes closest to meeting your young and dark-skinned requirements.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-flora-neves-5484[/URL]

Here is the translated version of the review that Flora just received a couple of days ago on the local board.

" Technical Sheet:

Name: Flora Neves.

Contact: WhatsApp.

Nationality: Portuguese.

Age: Declares 19, but recently made 20.

Height: Checks 1. 75, with Air Jordan sneakers.

Weight: I don't know if you get the 56 kg declared, because you must have a lot of difficulty getting fat.

Skin: Very clear, very soft, without any tattoo or piercing, according to photo shoot.

Hair: A voluminous and wild mane of wavy hair at the root and curly at the tips, of the most natural dark brown impossible. Beautiful!

Face: Very beautiful. Almost beautiful, girl's face, Betty Boop's small mouth, teeth corrected by braces, all in place and without caries, round chin on a face without angles, right forehead with soft widow's beak. The nose was operated on very recently, because the speto should be quite nodous and prominent. A simplistic and uncriteria intervention, which always leads to a strange result. To turn the tip over, a depression is deliberately provoked that, because it is too concave, gives an air of drawing animating to the set, creating the optical illusion of a face that is too small, looking like the head is also diminished in relation to the rest of the body. No traces of makeup.

Eyes: Large, circular, dark brown, penetrating (sometimes threatening, sometimes insecure), thick over-eyes.

Chest: The best pair of natural breasts in all of great Lisbon, (attention, I've never been with XXX). I'm sure that's what captived each of the confreres as soon as they saw the photos and it's the truth! Visually perfect, irreproachable texture, soft and soft, round and pingy at the same time, tender but dense. The arrogance of youth does not wear a bra! When I praised them, he told me that they were not that perfect, because they had a few stretch marks on their side! Forgive me, sir! Who doesn't know what he's talking about! The nipples are reactive, to the touch and the sucks, as well as when you finally start to feel some sexual pleasure.

Vagina: It's huge! If he were a man, he would undoubtedly be very well endowed. The labia minora are larger than most of the big lips of the rest of the vaginas. It's really greluda, they look like cabbage leaves with textured and dark skin. It's not pink.

Tail: Perfect, with some stretch marks on the wide hip, it is not upturned in the back. She has a model body, she knows that, but she doesn't give it any value. The belly is smooth, with the pronounced belly of a fertile woman. The shoulders straight and wide and the neck long and slender.

Legs: very long and thin, never finish again. Sometimes I didn't know where to put them, but that's what made all the TD funny. The feet are big, more than 40 for sure. They do it together with the rest. I literally ate all that, I tasted each of the digits and inter digits. She was distressed, moved, smiled, said no but yes. It was great. The hands are beautiful with long fingers, the manicure is there because it became a GP, because otherwise it didn't exist.

Felatio: The reason why it certainly became a GP. It's very easy and comfortable with the penis. He likes to move it, suck it and lick it. She's very young, I don't believe she's had much experience with her boyfriends of her age, so she's not very virtuous, she has no restrictions. It's lovely to see her work. From time to time, in a fleeting way, it penetrates the look with those big eyes, more to see if we are almost bursting, than for something else. She herself takes the initiative for the CIM, which does it in a natural way. I suspect that in real life she swallows without contemplation. She doesn't do it here, because some professional warned her not to do it, so she's going on the race. Brush your teeth and lie down next to me again and ask if everything is okay. If I liked it: -"you need to please the man!

Conilligus: When I saw her squatting, with her legs ajar, and the clit hanging. I thought to myself: -"you have to go there with your mouth!" I waited for her to do her oral patiently. Then I told her that "now" it would be my turn, she was a little surprised. I don't think it comes from a world where men make women with their mouths. I sat her on the bed, with me on my knees on the floor, I dived my head! It smells so good that I felt vertigo, clitoris and flats passed my thin tongue, which entered the most I could vulva inside (I don't always do it, but everything has such a new look, that I completely lost the inhibitions). Honestly, I liked it more than her, she didn't do shipping, she also waited patiently for me to satisfy myself, but it's more vaginal than clitoral.

Vaginal: it's tight, it's a 20-year-old girl. She herself says that we should try several positions. I start in Cowgirl standart, not knowing where to put those long legs, she is not a Brazilian, hardworking but without great rhythm, she immediately pulled my hands to the breasts. There was no elastic for the hair, the melenas got out of control everywhere. We went to the missionary, where he started to warm up more, eyes in the eyes, I accelerated until I started to blur the look and abandon himself with my face on its side. She avoided the pleasure and asked for the dog herself two times, the 2 in bed and with me standing, she doesn't like it as much as the conch with me grabbing her breasts full again, it warmed up again. He didn't reach orgasm, he says he needs "love" for this to happen. I'll try to love her forever!

Anal: When I was in the dog, I still stammered that I was going quickly to the ATM to withdraw the amount necessary to pay the extra. She looked back and smiled yellow. When I got dressed, I asked directly if I was doing anal. Negative, avoiding the look. As in the minete, I couldn't help it, I think my tongue was longer in pink bud than in sole.

Kiss: Speaking of sole, he entered, 2 kisses still warning the attendant who was arriving. First time in bed, he grabbed my cheeks to make a little mouth and chipped a small and warm tongue, but never used it again. Kiss well but only with your lips all the time. He never turned his face to the side.

Attitude: Alpha Gamer, boy, bomber jacket, cargo pants, left school to come to the hotel. Talkative, uninhibited, confident without knowing how wonderful it is. Stry and determined. He likes to lead the action and is rapid and distant when he needs to be, less often loving.

Hygiene: I think the odorous problem so talked about is psychosomatic, reflective of some nervousness and inner insecurity. It's your natural perfume. It never smelled me bad, it even smelled me too good! He took a negligent shower at first just to respect the employer's indications, brushed his teeth after the CIM.

Location: Hotel Travel.

Time control: More than agreed.

Payment: he fixed the rest of the things he left on the table when he left.

Summary.

The Unicorn of the GP! Beautiful. High. Skinny. Sculpture bust. All natural: hair, tits, body. Sily skin without tattoos. Portuguese, under 25 years old. It hasn't been a mother yet. No whims, natural oral CIM. Good head, good conversation. Detached and efficient.

It's a 10 (ten) because I love women! -1 for the lie of the full ad=9 (nine).

This TD is part of a set that was drafted by various vicissitudes. Although it was done before, it is being published after the exit of the GP of the EP.

It seems that it went well, he even took the name with her. I've already been to see the discriminated on eurogirlsescort: 160/ hour, keep the small talk that does anal (I didn't have the right), I asked for a quote by WhatsApp, it only confirms on the spot. It also says it lets you film! Flora! If you ever read this, I don't advise you!

The Former Agency increased to 200/ hour, as we all already know. If you maintain the quality of the service and the price, it is better to appoint confreres! Because your schedule will be full for years! Don't treat this retaining angel badly!

Unfortunately, like a lot of places in the Western World, there is a lack of genuine 18-year olds in the current industry. A great number of the highest-rated ladies are in their 30's.

If you can go a few years older, this relatively darker-skinned independent gets excellent reviews here on ISG and on the local board, where she is one of the absolute favorites. Relatively speaking, she is not that old (in her twenties).

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-eller-rocha-4428[/URL]

And of course, Rebeca Diniz is the highest-rated lady on the local board, with my review of her on ISG, but is closer to thirty than Eller Rocha might be. But Rebeca is very nice looking and slim.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-rebeca-diniz-6364[/URL]

Thank you for the information! Telma did look sketchy and I will avoid.

Regarding the Apartadax and EP girls, is it actually safe to conclude that the verified photos are real, if re-touched? Or could they be of a totally different woman?

I'm a bit torn between going for someone like Rebecca who seems nearly certain to provide good service, or to take a chance and try one of the ebony girls. I get plenty of good sex in Asia and have no strong affinity for Caucasian girls, so good sex with a late 20’s white girl, would be nice, but not unusual. Bad sex with a young black girl would be an unfortunate waste of good money. So, how risky is that?

I don't mean to imply bias, but culturally, in Portugal, are the black women more or less likely to be scammers? It's certainly 100% true in America where a few times, long ago, I tried some of the dark girls in Detroit and LA. Horrible experiences with conniving bitches. I’d never considered black escorts in the US. (Actually, any escorts are a high priced rip-off in the ‘land if the free’, imo)

So, Any general cultural differences in Portugal that would lead an experienced monger to shy away from the ebony ladies?

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2884454]On your list, with the exception of Yara Cohen, who XXL has now warned you about, Telma Vaz is also unfortunately on the Likely Do Not See list. Telma received a negative review on this board and a mediocre 3 out of 10 pm on her one review on the local board. Here is a translated version of Telma Vaz local board review:

" TD done more than two weeks ago. Trip to the hotel and easy appointment with some advance.

It was the worst experience I had with the EP. .

If you can go a few years older, this relatively darker-skinned independent gets excellent reviews here on ISG and on the local board, where she is one of the absolute favorites. Relatively speaking, she is not that old (in her twenties).

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-eller-rocha-4428[/URL]

And of course, Rebeca Diniz is the highest-rated lady on the local board, with my review of her on ISG, but is closer to thirty than Eller Rocha might be. But Rebeca is very nice looking and slim.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-rebeca-diniz-6364[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2884531]Thank you for the information! Telma did look sketchy and I will avoid.

Regarding the Apartadax and EP girls, is it actually safe to conclude that the verified photos are real, if re-touched? Or could they be of a totally different woman?

I'm a bit torn between going for someone like Rebecca who seems nearly certain to provide good service, or to take a chance and try one of the ebony girls. I get plenty of good sex in Asia and have no strong affinity for Caucasian girls, so good sex with a late 20s white girl, would be nice, but not unusual. Bad sex with a young black girl would be an unfortunate waste of good money. So, how risky is that?

I don't mean to imply bias, but culturally, in Portugal, are the black women more or less likely to be scammers? It's certainly 100% true in America where a few times, long ago, I tried some of the dark girls in Detroit and LA. Horrible experiences with conniving bitches. Id never considered black escorts in the US. (Actually, any escorts are a high priced rip-off in the land if the free, imo)

So, Any general cultural differences in Portugal that would lead an experienced monger to shy away from the ebony ladies?[/QUOTE]The Apartadox and EP photos are often 10-25 percent better than reality.

I can't say there is a cultural difference regarding ladies of African ancestry in Lisbon.

Another one of EP's best rated ladies is Joana Montenegro. The combination of her being a little bit older and a little bit lighter-skinned than your target made me not put her on the list for you, but you can list her as a back-up. But I think she has some African ancestry.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/joana-montenegro/[/URL]

Deborah Dias is no longer on the EP roster but she is dark-skinned African and received excellent reviews.

There was a little African lady from South Africa that was one of Lisbon's most popular independents for years.

Sure there have been some scammers and duds, but some of Lisbon's most popular ladies are part or full African.

Portugal is a pretty welcoming melting pot.

And although they are too old for you, since you mentioned 18-year olds as a preference, I remember that some of Kama's Lisbon favorites have been of African ancestry.

Two of my favorite upscale independent escorts in Miami were either full or part African American. But at the low-end of the USA Scene, Black ladies do not have a very good reputation in the USA.

Thank you Mongerer88 for the useful links to those reviews, but Flora Neves most definitely isn't darker skinned. We had the same suggestion on the board before, I'm not sure why she is being classed as darker skinned.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2884454]

Flora Neves once once one of the highest-rated EP ladies who has now gone independent. She probably comes closest to meeting your young and dark-skinned requirements.

[/QUOTE]

Yes I've often read reports of attitude problems with ebony girls, particularly in places like England and America, but my experience is that the girls in Lisbon are willing to please and deliver a good service. Of course, you'll always get the odd one who may give a stinking service, but in general I think Lisbon girls are good.

It's a shame Debora Dias seems to have disappeared from the roster as she was great.

[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2884531]Thank you for the information! Telma did look sketchy and I will avoid.

I don't mean to imply bias, but culturally, in Portugal, are the black women more or less likely to be scammers? It's certainly 100% true in America where a few times, long ago, I tried some of the dark girls in Detroit and LA. Horrible experiences with conniving bitches. Id never considered black escorts in the US. (Actually, any escorts are a high priced rip-off in the land if the free, imo)

So, Any general cultural differences in Portugal that would lead an experienced monger to shy away from the ebony ladies?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Harry1217;2884561]Thank you Mongerer88 for the useful links to those reviews, but Flora Neves most definitely isn't darker skinned. We had the same suggestion on the board before, I'm not sure why she is being classed as darker skinned.[/QUOTE]Fair enough. She is listed as Latin on Eurogirls advertising site, but her pictures there are whiter than on Apartadox.

[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/flora-neves/646062/?list=cv3vce[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-flora-neves-5484[/URL]

Where is she in the skin tone chart?

As a group, the African ladies have the same reputation as the Brasilians or Portuguese (without making even the distinction of the Brasilians and Portuguese nationals who are also black). Some are bad, some are good, some even have fans on this board. I can't really say more than that, because it's not a group I pay attention to -- not my thing.

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2884572]As a group, the African ladies have the same reputation as the Brasilians or Portuguese (without making even the distinction of the Brasilians and Portuguese nationals who are also black). Some are bad, some are good, some even have fans on this board. I can't really say more than that, because it's not a group I pay attention to -- not my thing.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I appreciate that response and it is what I had hoped.

Since EP raised their prices I thought independents become more attractive so I started with a new list. Maybe some of you have comments to that:

Juliana Calvancanti.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-juliana-cavalcanti-5459[/URL]

Lunna Cardoso.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-lunna-cardoso-8239[/URL]

Morena Flor.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-morena-flor-5670[/URL]

Mariana Martins.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-mariana-martins-5725[/URL]

Bia Novais.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-bia-novais-7739[/URL]

Angel Chloe.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-angel-chloe-5539[/URL]

Mariza Rodrigues.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Mariza-Rodrigues-4581[/URL]

Laura Sampaio.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-laura-sampaio-7798[/URL]

Sophie Adams.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-sophie-a--7071[/URL]

In terms of age and body types the list is all over the place I know but they should all have solid reviews.

[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2884531]Thank you for the information! Telma did look sketchy and I will avoid.

Regarding the Apartadax and EP girls, is it actually safe to conclude that the verified photos are real, if re-touched? Or could they be of a totally different woman?

I'm a bit torn between going for someone like Rebecca who seems nearly certain to provide good service, or to take a chance and try one of the ebony girls. I get plenty of good sex in Asia and have no strong affinity for Caucasian girls, so good sex with a late 20s white girl, would be nice, but not unusual. Bad sex with a young black girl would be an unfortunate waste of good money. So, how risky is that?

I don't mean to imply bias, but culturally, in Portugal, are the black women more or less likely to be scammers? It's certainly 100% true in America where a few times, long ago, I tried some of the dark girls in Detroit and LA. Horrible experiences with conniving bitches. Id never considered black escorts in the US. (Actually, any escorts are a high priced rip-off in the land if the free, imo)

So, Any general cultural differences in Portugal that would lead an experienced monger to shy away from the ebony ladies?[/QUOTE]Maybe try Lara Vincent? I believe her reviews are favorable and she is darker skinned.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-lara-vincent-7113[/URL]

I'll tell you Julia Calvancanti and Luna Cardoso are both on my working list for next time around.

It's worth keeping in mind that Mariana Martins is working out of an area on the eastern outskirts of Sintra. When I visit, I always spend part of my time either in Cascais or Sintra, so that isn't a problem for me. But it seems to be an issue for the basically everyone else who doesn't actually live there, and I suspect going to see her without a car would be very, very inconvenient.

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2884886]I'll tell you Julia Calvancanti and Luna Cardoso are both on my working list for next time around.

It's worth keeping in mind that Mariana Martins is working out of an area on the eastern outskirts of Sintra. When I visit, I always spend part of my time either in Cascais or Sintra, so that isn't a problem for me. But it seems to be an issue for the basically everyone else who doesn't actually live there, and I suspect going to see her without a car would be very, very inconvenient.[/QUOTE]You Sir have very good taste!

They are also on my shortlist and I will definitely try to visit them.

I insist: the very best dark skinned beauty right now is Ana Santos [URL]https://somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1179-ana-santos-massagista-sensual-Lisboa[/URL].

[URL]https://www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhante/AnaSantos[/URL]

[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2885110]I insist: the very best dark skinned beauty right now is Ana Santos [URL]https://somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1179-ana-santos-massagista-sensual-Lisboa[/URL].

[URL]https://www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhante/AnaSantos[/URL][/QUOTE]But one downside. No English.

But if you have recommendations for dark skinned girls that speak English and are independent. I am all for it!

Good news! Deborah Dias ist back!

She now goes under the name Raquel Costa.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-raquel-costa-8395[/URL]

[QUOTE=Front604;2884771]Maybe try Lara Vincent? I believe her reviews are favorable and she is darker skinned.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-lara-vincent-7113[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for the suggestion. Looks nice, but maybe a little big for my tastes: BMI is over 21 based on her reported weight. Considering that most girl shave off a few kgs, her actual BMI is probably 23. I like something in 17.5-19 range. But perhaps not possible.

[QUOTE=Front604;2885304]Good news! Deborah Dias ist back!

She now goes under the name Raquel Costa.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-raquel-costa-8395[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks. Great catch. Raquel is well reviewed and should move toward the top of SteelBaton's list.

This thread has been incredibly helpful for my 'research' as I plan my first (sadly too short) stay in Lisbon.

Based on the girls you have reviewed here, it looks like our tastes match! So thanks very much for that! I have a few clarifying questions:

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/celine-luz/[/URL]

Really great body, made me feel very confortable although it was not communicative. I did not like her face too much, but oral without condom was good. Sex also great, we did a few positions and she seemed to be enjoying it. 8/10.

Celine is now among my top picks. Was there anything she wouldn't do?

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/iris-freitas/[/URL]

Had a petite and natural body, with small tits, but recently has put silicone, but still a great body. I just love her face, although she is sure not 19 her face is very young and delicate. Oral without condom was very good. She is also very energetic and really seems to enjoy it, sometimes even asking to go harder or slap her. Likes to talk a lot, but if you don't start she will usually start by herself at the 30 min mark. 8/10.

Regarding the fake tits, would you say her current photos on the link you sent are before or after the implants? I couldn't tell. I myself prefer natural, but silicone if in moderate size is fine too.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-julieta-6070[/URL]

Very beautiful girl with a great body. Oral with condom. Unfortunately seems to think its a new star with prices going up to 160 EUR for a incall. Went a few months ago and it was great. Tried to go recently, was hard to schedule and since it was over 10 PM, she seemed very tired and just wanted to finish it as soon as possible. Will not go again unless someone says she went back the old ways. 4/10.

The link you have for Julieta is no longer active. By any chance, is this the same girl? [URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/escort/julieta[/URL].

Thanks again!

Unless Astroglider1 tells us otherwise, it does not appear that the Julieta in your Portalprivado link is the same Julieta in the Taking a Break For Now Apartadox link.

In the local board review of the Julieta of Apartadox thread (which also indicates declining review scores for her), there is a link to her Apartadox and PortalPrivado ads, both of which are now inactive.

The phone number in the PortalPrivado ad you linked to with a working number, leads to a thread on the local board with a different provider name from many years ago with complaints of false photos. So I think you have hit two duds in your pursuit of an elusive Julieta. You are better off going with Celine or Iris that you mentioned, or for other younger ladies looking at Flora Neves or Viviane Miler.

[QUOTE=QMan0007;2885420]This thread has been incredibly helpful for my 'research' as I plan my first (sadly too short) stay in Lisbon.

Based on the girls you have reviewed here, it looks like our tastes match! So thanks very much for that! I have a few clarifying questions:

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/celine-luz/[/URL]

Really great body, made me feel very confortable although it was not communicative. I did not like her face too much, but oral without condom was good. Sex also great, we did a few positions and she seemed to be enjoying it. 8/10.

Celine is now among my top picks. Was there anything she wouldn't do?

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/iris-freitas/[/URL]

Had a petite and natural body, with small tits, but recently has put silicone, but still a great body. I just love her face, although she is sure not 19 her face is very young and delicate. Oral without condom was very good. She is also very energetic and really seems to enjoy it, sometimes even asking to go harder or slap her. Likes to talk a lot, but if you don't start she will usually start by herself at the 30 min mark. 8/10.

Regarding the fake tits, would you say her current photos on the link you sent are before or after the implants? I couldn't tell. I myself prefer natural, but silicone if in moderate size is fine too.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-julieta-6070[/URL]

Very beautiful girl with a great body. Oral with condom. Unfortunately seems to think its a new star with prices going up to 160 EUR for a incall. Went a few months ago and it was great. Tried to go recently, was hard to schedule and since it was over 10 PM, she seemed very tired and just wanted to finish it as soon as possible. Will not go again unless someone says she went back the old ways. 4/10.

The link you have for Julieta is no longer active. By any chance, is this the same girl? [URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/escort/julieta[/URL].

Thanks again![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=QMan0007;2885420]This thread has been incredibly helpful for my 'research' as I plan my first (sadly too short) stay in Lisbon.

Based on the girls you have reviewed here, it looks like our tastes match! So thanks very much for that! I have a few clarifying questions:

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/celine-luz/[/URL]

Really great body, made me feel very confortable although it was not communicative. I did not like her face too much, but oral without condom was good. Sex also great, we did a few positions and she seemed to be enjoying it. 8/10.

Celine is now among my top picks. Was there anything she wouldn't do?

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/iris-freitas/[/URL]

Had a petite and natural body, with small tits, but recently has put silicone, but still a great body. I just love her face, although she is sure not 19 her face is very young and delicate. Oral without condom was very good. She is also very energetic and really seems to enjoy it, sometimes even asking to go harder or slap her. Likes to talk a lot, but if you don't start she will usually start by herself at the 30 min mark. 8/10.

Regarding the fake tits, would you say her current photos on the link you sent are before or after the implants? I couldn't tell. I myself prefer natural, but silicone if in moderate size is fine too.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-julieta-6070[/URL]

Very beautiful girl with a great body. Oral with condom. Unfortunately seems to think its a new star with prices going up to 160 EUR for a incall. Went a few months ago and it was great. Tried to go recently, was hard to schedule and since it was over 10 PM, she seemed very tired and just wanted to finish it as soon as possible. Will not go again unless someone says she went back the old ways. 4/10.

The link you have for Julieta is no longer active. By any chance, is this the same girl? [URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/escort/julieta[/URL].

Thanks again![/QUOTE]About Celine, I know she won't do anal. I did a few positions with her, nothing too fancy, and she seemed to be enjoying. I also did not ask for CIM or other things. I guess you best bet is confirm with her everything before.

Abou Iris, the photos are after the surgery, she had small and saggy natural tits before (she had a child) which I loved. Now they are the typical silicone tits. Its not a dealbreaker at all, but I preferred it before.

About Julieta, yes, that is the same girl. She has some other photos here:

[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/julie/462891/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2885334]Thanks. Great catch. Raquel is well reviewed and should move toward the top of SteelBaton's list.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the suggestion-I'll ping her.

[QUOTE=QMan0007;2885420]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-julieta-6070[/URL]

Very beautiful girl with a great body. Oral with condom. Unfortunately seems to think its a new star with prices going up to 160 EUR for a incall. Went a few months ago and it was great. Tried to go recently, was hard to schedule and since it was over 10 PM, she seemed very tired and just wanted to finish it as soon as possible. Will not go again unless someone says she went back the old ways. 4/10.

The link you have for Julieta is no longer active. By any chance, is this the same girl? [URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/escort/julieta[/URL].

Thanks again![/QUOTE]

Yes, it's the same girl. I liked her old Portalprivado photoset better than this one. Ha!

I think the increase in price and the attitude report are mutually reinforcing yellow flags. Every lady can have a bad day, but if they're done and want to go home, they should either go home or grin and bear it. She's an independent; nobody is making her stay. And asking 160 feels like GPS.

[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2885537]Thanks for the suggestion-I'll ping her.[/QUOTE]Just not for the same day and time as I am planning 😉.

The Julietas are all the same. I had my eye on her for my last trip, but wasn't able to make it. The three of her four ads are down. I suspect she just didn't renew (yet? But did a new photoshoot at Portalprivado instead. Also, Portalprivado is an all-verified website that insists on doing their own photography. It would be very, very weird for Julieta to pay for a new photoshoot and then give the number to someone else. I suppose it could happen, but I doubt that is a different girl. Portalprivado just changed the URL for some reason.

Since I'm here, I think if she were both hot and offered consistently good service, asking 160/h would be fine. She doesn't offer consistently good service, and there are other providers. That is why the two things together are both yellow flags.

She isn't on my list for next time, not unless I see a few sterling reports in the meantime.

I contacted this girl last time, because I have a thing for goth girls:

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-aline-maya-8360[/URL]

She had a detailed price structure full of extras, offered quickies and all kinds of other things that don't fit the working culture of Portugal. I read it as a red flag and dropped it. It smacked of the kind of cheap crap that makes America so awful.

I actually wasn't going to say anything, but she got her first report on the local board. She apparently has a guy involved, which the reporter interpreted as cuckold, but I think is more accurately described as boyfriend-pimp.

So big red flag snapping in the breeze there.

Hey everyone,

My basic list for the next trip stand, thanks to this board and the local one. So for escorts (incall and outcall) I think I have I covered.

But I thought I try something new. Nuru or Boday2 Body massage. BUT it should also include FS (I don't see the value for money when a massage costs the same as an incall escort). Do you guys know any good providers? Preferably close to Marques de Pombal so it would be in walking distance but I wouldn't mind to use an Uber.

Currently the only one I have is:

[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]

But surely there has to be more then just one in this beautiful city.

The HJ, not FS nuru massagistas don't charge the same as escorts, although it is true that some of the spas may try to take you for a ride and ask for even more than the going incall escort rate (But the general rule is they ask for about 20 euros less for an hour, so 130 instead of 150.

L'Essence, Nuru and Klass spas all offer B2 B massage with FS as a reliable practice. Emily Carter was also well-reviewed for this service once upon a time, but it's been a couple of years since I saw her written up. BUT this photo essay is new.

[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/emily-carter/[/URL]

Beyond that (and the three spas combined have about twenty girls between them), anyone else I could point you to aren't in central Lisbon.

[QUOTE=Front604;2886143]Hey everyone,

My basic list for the next trip stand, thanks to this board and the local one. So for escorts (incall and outcall) I think I have I covered.

But I thought I try something new. Nuru or Boday2 Body massage. BUT it should also include FS (I don't see the value for money when a massage costs the same as an incall escort). Do you guys know any good providers? Preferably close to Marques de Pombal so it would be in walking distance but I wouldn't mind to use an Uber.

Currently the only one I have is:

[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]

But surely there has to be more then just one in this beautiful city.[/QUOTE]

When I reviewed Clara in December, I said to keep an eye on her because she had worked in Lisbon before and probably would move back at some point. Now she has:

[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/escort/clara-gouveia[/URL]

To repeat, she is a 27 year old waif with normal, very Portuguese looks, and her performance is top notch, very active GFE. Her English is good as well.

She has gone to Geneva and is charging the equivalent of over 400 per hour!!

I should add for context that 400 is a run of the mill rate there, with plenty of ladies charging more than that!! Different world to Portugal.

No longer on Apartadox as expected but is still on Eurogirl in the Switzerland section:

[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/flora-neves/646062/?list=cv3vce[/URL]

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2886227]The HJ, not FS nuru massagistas don't charge the same as escorts, although it is true that some of the spas may try to take you for a ride and ask for even more than the going incall escort rate (But the general rule is they ask for about 20 euros less for an hour, so 130 instead of 150.

L'Essence, Nuru and Klass spas all offer B2 B massage with FS as a reliable practice. Emily Carter was also well-reviewed for this service once upon a time, but it's been a couple of years since I saw her written up. BUT this photo essay is new.

[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/emily-carter/[/URL]

Beyond that (and the three spas combined have about twenty girls between them), anyone else I could point you to aren't in central Lisbon.[/QUOTE]Does L'Essence have a location in central Lisbon?? I thought they were located in Alges. That would be a valuable addition.

I think the only thing disappointing about what Flora is charging in Switzerland is that she went to Switzerland. I always liked that she was a part-timer. Going to Switzerland is more of a full time, pro move -- and she did it in winter no less.

Before this, I noticed she bumped her rate up to 180/ h. Maybe she saw my opinion on the subject: the. Anyway, yes, they charge much more in Switzerland because it is Switzerland. It's not unusual for an escort based in Portugal to go to northern Europe and Switzerland in particular, make some extra money by living very simply, and then come home and charge pretty normal rates.

We will all just need to see. There are plenty of excellent incall options if the outcall ladies become too pricey.

BTW, I noticed something on Portalprivado: Silvia Nobre has returned.

[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/escort/silvia-nobre[/URL]

Her local board thread goes back a decade, and she was very popular back in the day. She retired in I think 2016? She would be in her early thirties now, and the photoshoot is several years old.

If someone were looking to take one for the team, they could find out how she is today.

The discussion in the Lisbon threads is always heavily skewed towards the escort scene, which is not my thing at all. I'm a clubbing kind of monger. Is there any kind of a club scene to speak of at all in Lisbon? I mean anything like what you can find in Madrid and throughout Spain for example? Lisbon is on my short list for a visit, but it may not turn out to be much of a mongering trip for me if there is no viable club scene to engage in. I will put in the research when the trip draws closer, but just interested in getting a good general idea about what I can expect regarding the nightclub pickup scene in Lisbon and throughout Portugal. Thanks in advance for any general guidance.

I think they either opened a new location in central Lisbon or closed Alges and moved there. The local board was full of buzz about it when it happened.

[QUOTE=Pecadozinho;2886849]Does L'Essence have a location in central Lisbon?? I thought they were located in Alges. That would be a valuable addition.[/QUOTE]

It looks like they moved again, now to Alfragide. Go figure.

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2887051]I think they either opened a new location in central Lisbon or closed Alges and moved there. The local board was full of buzz about it when it happened.[/QUOTE]

There were two field reports each from experienced reviewers for Filipe Marques and Ruby Rodrigues from experienced reviewers on the local board.

All the reviews were excellent. 8's and 9's out of 10.

Filipa is BBBJ and CIM and Ruby is BBBJ. Both are described as pretty girls in their mid 20's, with average to above-average bodies, friendly, and providing an enjoyable atmosphere. Filipa is described as looking better than the pictures suggested.

It is great when it works the way it is supposed to. The nature of EP is for there to be 10 recommended ladies, 10 do-not see ladies and 10 unknowns at any given time. Always good to see a couple of additions to the recommended list.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-filipa-marques-7498[/URL]

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/filipa-marques/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-ruby-rodrigues-7961[/URL]

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/ruby-rodrigues/[/URL]

A report on the local board says it's true: Silvia Nobre has returned.

She did a new photoshoot too:

[URL]https://portalprivado.com/escort/silvia-nobre[/URL]

I believe she is actually in her early thirties, but the local board says that it is the same lady who was so popular several years ago and she is still a star performer. She is Portuguese, and best of all is currently charging 120/ h for incall.

My first trip to Lisbon coming up soon. I have a few questions about being able to preserve ID privacy while contacting an escort.

- do agencies like escortprivada and others ask for photoID, real name, references etc?

- do they accept outcalls to a hotel without name / room number, and where I would meet the lady at the lobby or just outside the hotel?

- do they take calls from hotel room phones, or only take calls from cell phones?

- are they willing to communicate via email instead of calls?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=QMan0007;2889086]My first trip to Lisbon coming up soon. I have a few questions about being able to preserve ID privacy while contacting an escort.

- do agencies like escortprivada and others ask for photoID, real name, references etc?

- do they accept outcalls to a hotel without name / room number, and where I would meet the lady at the lobby or just outside the hotel?

- do they take calls from hotel room phones, or only take calls from cell phones?

- are they willing to communicate via email instead of calls?

Thanks![/QUOTE]Your concerns regarding privacy seem a bit overboard in a country where commercial sex transactions are legal and natter-of-fact.

Escort Privada never sends solicitation messages or does anything other than respond to messages you sent them.

So once you delete your WhatsApp chats, they are done.

They will need enough information from you to make sure they aren't sending a lady on a fake call.

If you want to meet her, instead of her just coming up to your room, you meet her in the hotel lobby.

[QUOTE=QMan0007;2889086]My first trip to Lisbon coming up soon. I have a few questions about being able to preserve ID privacy while contacting an escort.

- do agencies like escortprivada and others ask for photoID, real name, references etc?

- do they accept outcalls to a hotel without name / room number, and where I would meet the lady at the lobby or just outside the hotel?

- do they take calls from hotel room phones, or only take calls from cell phones?

- are they willing to communicate via email instead of calls?

Thanks![/QUOTE]The agency will not want your ID. However, the girl will want to make sure you are staying at the hotel and have a room there. For example she will call you on the hotel landline or she will ask you to send her some proof that you are booked in room X.

Communication usually through Whatsapp.

If you try to be elusive with girls you may have a hard time to get laid. Lisbon is not a buyer's market.

To build on what Mongerer wrote, texting by Whatsapp is the preferred means of communication for most escorts and spas in Lisbon, including Escort Privada. Sometimes when you contact EP, you are talking to the actual girl and sometimes the agency -- that is her preference as to whether to do her own communications.

It is standard procedure for EP to ask for a photo of your room key card package to confirm the appointment. What they want is proof you are at the hotel. They aren't screening you or fishing for private details. Many times I have penciled myself in with an EP girl, then followed up later to confirm by sending the keycard photo once I am actually at the hotel.

As secured elevators are common, usually you meet an outcall in the lobby or on the street outside the hotel. That is something you sort out with her. If you get there and the lobby is either discreet or uncomfortably busy and public, say so to her and make a suggestion. Likewise, if the elevator is unlocked, tell her that -- she can come straight to your door.

The keycard request thing is also asked for by girls who used to be EP, but went on to do independent outcall, as well as quite a few others. It's not universal, but pretty common. Again, your name might not even be on anything you photo -- I've gotten away with just the card before, saying it was because that was all they gave me. They really only want some kind of proof you are actually there before making the trip.

An escort or massagista only does emailing if they provide an answer mail address. They also don't want to text by SMS at all these days, since WhatsApp covers that for free. Few want to do calls, but may or may not take them -- if you don't speak Portuguese, I wouldn't recommend calling at all. Finally, mosy will ignore blocked numbers. Again, that isn't about collecting information, but about their safety.

Lisbon is very easy once you know how it works, and offers good quality at a fair price relative to anywhere else in Europe. Usually the complainers are upset because they are trying to make the round peg fit the square hole, and would be happier in Bangkok or a German cattle market.

[QUOTE=QMan0007;2889086]My first trip to Lisbon coming up soon. I have a few questions about being able to preserve ID privacy while contacting an escort.

- do agencies like escortprivada and others ask for photoID, real name, references etc?

- do they accept outcalls to a hotel without name / room number, and where I would meet the lady at the lobby or just outside the hotel?

- do they take calls from hotel room phones, or only take calls from cell phones?

- are they willing to communicate via email instead of calls?

Thanks![/QUOTE]

Nuria was a great fuck.

Met her last week in Lisbon.

Face: 8/10.

Body: 9/10 (tits, surprisingly, a little soft).

Attitude: 10/10.

Performance: 9/10.

Damage: 200 + 50 tip.

Repeat: yes.

Link: [URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/nuria[/URL].

Contact: +351 910 591 978 (WhatsApp).

She's Angolan by birth and has lived in Lisbon for 5 years. She is petite at 155 cm and 47 kilos with nice BMI of 19.5 (low normal). She has a teenager's tight body, although she turned 20 a few days ago, with beautiful light dark skin and firm ass. Tits a bit soft for her age, but nice see+ cup size. She an attractive enough face. But, really her attitude is her best attribute.

In advance I asked for her to assume her hobby per one of her adverts: my secret hobby: "I like being a little sub". So we played submissive young black girl and dominate older white Southern gentleman, with light race-play.

Her communication was prompt and dependable. Wanted to see a screen shot of my hotel booking showing the dates. Later once checked in, she asked for a shot of the TV showing the date. After providing, she arrived within 5 minutes of our agreed 14:00 meet time at my 5 star hotel. Very professional. Texted upon arrival outside, I met her in the lobby and we discreetly slipped into the lift.

A day in advance, I had sent a 10 point list of what I wanted from our meeting (DFK, owo in shower to start, ball sucking, deep fingering, asshole fingering (light), etc). She had reviewed the list and replied "ok".

On arrival, she was sweet, cute and very obedient. Never complained or pushed back on my requests. Stopped me at deep fingering her ass, but otherwise was very accommodating. Her English is limited.

She has some skills for her 19/20 years. Started with a mutual shower and the first owo began there with some good gagging and spitting. Her blow job lasted 10-15 minutes with good action and deep suction. Honestly, was one of the better BBBJ in the past 12 months; loved watching those thick black lips wrap around my cock. . Later, she took cock lying on her back with her head over the edge of the bed and me standing and ramming. She gagged (so nice when that happens) and kept going; she's a good tea-bagger as well. (Offered rimming for 50 more, but I passed).

Highly recommended if you are interested in something a little different and like ebony skin. She a trustworthy provider with a killer ass. Paid 200 after the session and added a 50 tip.

Btw - another very hot young black woman is Rafaela Ouro. https://escortprivada.com/escort/rafaela-ouro/ She’s 19 and has just the sort of body I love. Her communication was great and I trust she would have been a good lay, but sadly she only works after 22:00, which was too late from my schedule. Maybe next time. I certainly have more interest in these dark girls in Lisbon

This is a great board with several generous members including Mongerer 88, Front604, Exexpatrite. Amazingly helpful is Mongerer88 who generously takes the time to translate so many of those local language reviews. Cheers guys, really appreciate your DMs and informative posts.

I found the experience in Lisbon to be very satisfying and stress free. Both girls were just excellent women who wanted to please, were not clockwatchers, and were both GFE and professional. A bit expensive compared to what I'm used to in Thailand and China, but there was no bait-and-switch, the photos seem reliable, the girls punctual and there was no bullshit about services or price. I was able to pay at the end of each session, which is always my policy.

I arranged two girls who would arrive one after the other, Nuria, the Angolan, review below and Rebeca Diniz aka Becky. I knew from all the great reports that Becky would be reliable and great service and offered anal so I scheduled her last so as to insure a good finish. I scheduled Nuria to arrive 90 minutes before Becky, hoping both would be punctual. Fortunately they both were and the website photos were accurate depictions of their bodies (no faces shown online).

Review of Rebeca Diniz, Becky.

My scores:

Face: 8/10.

Body: 8/10 (a little big for my style).

Attitude: 10/10.

Performance: 9/10.

Damage: 250 (w / anal).

Repeat: probably not, great session, but she's a bit large for my tastes.

Contact (WhatsApp) +351 934 767 532.

Link: her link is currently down on Apartadox.

At 1,68 and 63 kgs, her BMI is 23, which is high normal, not fat, but not thin.

Becky's communications were excellent and very professional! Immediately knew this would be a good session. She was prompt, polite and dependable in our WhatsApp communications. She shared a couple of extra photos to calm my concern that she might be a little chubby / fat.

She arrived exactly on time to my hotel. Mentioned my room number to reception who called me and asked if it was ok to give her a key or did I want to come down. She got a key and was up in a few minutes. Not sure why the hotel agreed to ring my room as I hadn't given her my full name, only room number.

Smiling and with a terrific attitude. She appears to be late 20's / early 30's with a full and thick body. Somewhat bigger than I usually prefer, but certainly not fat. Beautiful ass, nice sized tits, but getting a bit saggy, if one is picky on those things. In the heat of the session I slapped her tits many times to which she didn't object. She loves to have her large nipples pinched and squeezed. She has big, beautiful black curly hair, almost an Afro, belying her mixed race - says she's 1/3 African, but I don't see how that math would work. .

Great owo for a very longtime. Good DFK. I was pleased that a recent sack and crack waxing earned extra attention to the brothers and some deep rimming (no charge). She loves sex and rubbed herself to climax while giving me head. She asked "can I fuck you" by which she meant she wanted to be on top. That's not my thing and so I told her no, just turn around and give me your ass. Which I began to finger and tease open wide enough for two fingers. Actually, I was going to only fuck her ass, but she begged me to stuff the sausage in her cnut first, which was tight and very wet and resulted in a loud and pleasing groan of pleasure from her. Switched to her ass and pounded it hard for several minutes - always takes a while to get things sliding well with anal. Finished with a satisfying load into her ass.

Paid at finish.

Highly Recommended, but I'll probably try someone new next time.

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2889252]To build on what Mongerer wrote, texting by Whatsapp is the preferred means of communication for most escorts and spas in Lisbon, including Escort Privada. Sometimes when you contact EP, you are talking to the actual girl and sometimes the agency -- that is her preference as to whether to do her own communications.

It is standard procedure for EP to ask for a photo of your room key card package to confirm the appointment. What they want is proof you are at the hotel. They aren't screening you or fishing for private details. Many times I have penciled myself in with an EP girl, then followed up later to confirm by sending the keycard photo once I am actually at the hotel.

As secured elevators are common, usually you meet an outcall in the lobby or on the street outside the hotel. That is something you sort out with her. If you get there and the lobby is either discreet or uncomfortably busy and public, say so to her and make a suggestion. Likewise, if the elevator is unlocked, tell her that -- she can come straight to your door.

The keycard request thing is also asked for by girls who used to be EP, but went on to do independent outcall, as well as quite a few others. It's not universal, but pretty common. Again, your name might not even be on anything you photo -- I've gotten away with just the card before, saying it was because that was all they gave me. They really only want some kind of proof you are actually there before making the trip.

An escort or massagista only does emailing if they provide an answer mail address. They also don't want to text by SMS at all these days, since WhatsApp covers that for free. Few want to do calls, but may or may not take them -- if you don't speak Portuguese, I wouldn't recommend calling at all. Finally, mosy will ignore blocked numbers. Again, that isn't about collecting information, but about their safety.

Lisbon is very easy once you know how it works, and offers good quality at a fair price relative to anywhere else in Europe. Usually the complainers are upset because they are trying to make the round peg fit the square hole, and would be happier in Bangkok or a German cattle market.[/QUOTE]Thanks very much ExEx, XXL and Mongerer. This is very useful information for me. Hopefully I will be able to reciprocate with a useful review or two shortly!

Most of the profiles there look so good it's almost too good to be true.

What are your experiences with the photo matching the person?

[QUOTE=NRandom940;2891802]Most of the profiles there look so good it's almost too good to be true.

What are your experiences with the photo matching the person?[/QUOTE]All of them are photoshop enhanced. But, as a rule, they're not ridiculously transformed. Depending on the skills of the photographer, they obviously choose the better angles, some ask to erase tattoos, but I'd say they're 90% reliable. On most of them the face is invisible and that can sometimes be a (good or bad) surprise.

It's standard boudoir / model photography. Nothing is fake, not even to the degree of the clumsy filters used so often on camera phones. However, all the standard tricks of that style of photography are in play. The lady has usually had her hair and makeup professionally done, if you can see her face. As Kama noted, some airbrushing will get rid of this tattoo or that scar.

Something to add about this is pay attention to what you don't see. If the lady wears a bodice in every photo, for example, it's probably not because she likes bodices. My guess is she is hiding her mid-section, because it has more cellulite that a light airbrush can hide or something to that effect.

The bottom line is what you see really is what you get, if you understand something about what you actually see.

The best and most example of this was the EP girl Bella Soares. She was pretty and a great performer, but there were some complaints that the photos were deceptive and she was chunky. The thing about Bella was she had the kind of dump truck rear that many women spend hours a week doing squats to achieve, and it was all muscle and all natural. Her thighs matched. She otherwise had a flat stomach. You could see all that in the photos, if you bothered to actually look at her legs. Those complaining nitwits did not.

[QUOTE=NRandom940;2891802]Most of the profiles there look so good it's almost too good to be true.

What are your experiences with the photo matching the person?[/QUOTE]

Hey guys, thank you for this insightful thread. Next week I am in Lisbon and would like to test EP or Ap. For the first time. What I am looking for is a lady that both ticks all boxes regarding reliability (no nonsense, faking, just a high service level) and joy in engaging anally. I am explicitly not looking for someone having A-levels as an optional service, but someone who really is into it. Ideally a young brunette. Outcall or incall does not matter. Any expert opinions or advices on that?

Thank you in advance!

[QUOTE=Joytraveller;2893514]Hey guys, thank you for this insightful thread. Next week I am in Lisbon and would like to test EP or Ap. For the first time. What I am looking for is a lady that both ticks all boxes regarding reliability (no nonsense, faking, just a high service level) and joy in engaging anally. I am explicitly not looking for someone having A-levels as an optional service, but someone who really is into it. Ideally a young brunette. Outcall or incall does not matter. Any expert opinions or advices on that?

Thank you in advance![/QUOTE]I think this is your girl, Tati.

All of her recent reviews are excellent and her reviews always mention her love of anal.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Tati-Bernardi-3753[/URL]

The EP lady whose reviews consistently mention anal are Alexandra Mendes. I have seen her twice and anal was available. I really liked her but she is a quiet lady and I have liked some of the more outgoing EP ladies better. Alexandra is in her mid to late 30's, so she is a few years older than Tati.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/alexandra-mendes/[/URL]

Anal is generally available with my favorite Rebeca Diniz, and she is certainly enthusiastic regarding services, but her ad is down, probably because she got plenty of new customers from her last ad. She accepts messages when she isn't running an ad, but you don't have PM for me to send you her number. You can check and see if she activated her ad again before your trip.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/inact.php?id=6364[/URL]

Alexandra Mendes and Rebeca Diniz speak fluent English. I don't know about Tati's English.

Link: [URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes/acompanhantes-lisboa/acompanhante-amanda-marques[/URL].

Browsing Portal Privado, I was delighted to see that Amanda Marques was back! Reviews on the local board were quite positive before she left last year.

I sent her a message and we schedule a 30 minute Incall session, for which she charges 70 Euros. 1 hour of her time will set you back 120 Euros. Dunno how much she charges for outcall. Her services include BBJ until completion but she does NOT do anal.

When I arrive at the location, I am greeted by Amanda, wearing a cute and sexy black dress. She enthusiastically takes my hand and guides me to her room. Even with her clothes on, I can tell she has one hell of a body, probably the best I have ever seen! Her breasts, however, are clearly implants but they felt nice to touch.

We get down to business until I'm on top and titty-fucking her. I tell Amanda I'm about to cum and she immediately puts my cock in her mouth and gleefully moans as I deposit my load inside her. After a a brief and nice massage, we go to round 2.

She starts off riding me, then I fuck her doggystyle, followed by missionary, back to doggystyle in front of a mirror, which was insanely sexy, then once again back to cowgirl and I ultimately finish with doggy.

I had an absolute blast with Amanda. She has a great fucking body and a very friendly personality to go with it. I talked to her in Portuguese but her profile does state she speaks English as well.

The only downside to this whole experience was the revelation that she would only be staying in Lisbon until April. And after that, she does not intend on coming back to Portugal.

Good score and I'm glad you visited with Amanda. She gets very high praise with the locals.

I've been making inquiries with some ladies on my list, preparatory to my next visit. Prices have actually come down for some of them, relative to the last time I asked (which could have been up to a year ago). Amanda is one of a few top tier ladies who always asked for 120/ h, but for some others it seems like business slowed down and they cut prices accordingly. (Either way, it's a good time to focus on incalls.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2893565]I think this is your girl, Tati.

All of her recent reviews are excellent and her reviews always mention her love of anal.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Tati-Bernardi-3753[/URL]

The EP lady whose reviews consistently mention anal are Alexandra Mendes. I have seen her twice and anal was available. I really liked her but she is a quiet lady and I have liked some of the more outgoing EP ladies better. Alexandra is in her mid to late 30's, so she is a few years older than Tati.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/alexandra-mendes/[/URL]

Anal is generally available with my favorite Rebeca Diniz, and she is certainly enthusiastic regarding services, but her ad is down, probably because she got plenty of new customers from her last ad. She accepts messages when she isn't running an ad, but you don't have PM for me to send you her number. You can check and see if she activated her ad again before your trip.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/inact.php?id=6364[/URL]

Alexandra Mendes and Rebeca Diniz speak fluent English. I don't know about Tati's English.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much for the detailed response! Probably I need to specify my preference a bit more. I tend to favor girls below or at the mid twenties and who are rather slim (curvy is not my cup of tea). If you consider this, who would make up your A-levels top3 then?

[QUOTE=JoyTraveller;2894933]Thank you very much for the detailed response! Probably I need to specify my preference a bit more. I tend to favor girls below or at the mid twenties and who are rather slim (curvy is not my cup of tea). If you consider this, who would make up your A-levels top3 then?[/QUOTE]Raquel Costa, who was formerly Debora Dias, consistently gets excellent reviews, and is slim and younger than the ladies I mentioned.

Her profile lists anal sex. Her reviews do not go into detail as to whether anal is always available and whether she immensely enjoys it.

Her reviews indicate that she tries to please the customer. If you see her, you should specify beforehand that anal is very important to you.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/raquel-costa/[/URL]

You don't have any reviews or posting history. I don't know what market you are finding an abundance of slim women in their early 20's who offer anal sex.

Lisbon, like many countries in the world, seems to have fewer ladies in their teens and early 20's entering this line of work. We may be seeing the leading edge of the generation once labeled the Puriteens hitting early adulthood. And they appear to be living up to their Puriteen moniker.

Hi all,

Please excuse the question. I used to live in Lisbon and contributed a few reports, but I have been away for a few years now. In two weeks I'm coming for a visit and was thinking of exploring the scene again.

Would anyone happen to have any recommendation of a petite lady? I have found some reviews of some ladies who fit the description (Clara Mendes and Valéria Diaz), but both had mixed reviews. If anyone else has any that come to mind I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks so much, and I'll certainly write a review if I manage to arrange something.

Always glad to help a fellow former resident. I'm going to focus on incall service, because it is so much the better value right now. All the ladies listed have good reputations and charge in the 120-150/ h range. Sticking to the everyone should agree they're petite:

Ines.

[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]

Emily Carter.

[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/emily-carter/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes/acompanhantes-lisboa/acompanhante-emily-carter[/URL]

Mavie:

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-mavie-8096[/URL]

[QUOTE=Dartanian100;2895177]Hi all,

Please excuse the question. I used to live in Lisbon and contributed a few reports, but I have been away for a few years now. In two weeks I'm coming for a visit and was thinking of exploring the scene again.

Would anyone happen to have any recommendation of a petite lady? I have found some reviews of some ladies who fit the description (Clara Mendes and Valria Diaz), but both had mixed reviews. If anyone else has any that come to mind I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks so much, and I'll certainly write a review if I manage to arrange something.[/QUOTE]

Thanks, ExExpatriate.

Mavie might be a possibility for JoyTraveler.

Her reviews say she offers anal sex for 30 euro extra. They do not specify whether she really gets into anal sex. Her reviews say she rubs her clit during the session, so she seems to get into the sex.

She lists her age as 27, which the reviewers seemed to confirm as accurate.

She is reviewed as being BBBJ.

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2895382]Always glad to help a fellow former resident. I'm going to focus on incall service, because it is so much the better value right now. All the ladies listed have good reputations and charge in the 120-150/ h range. Sticking to the everyone should agree they're petite:

Ines.

[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]

Emily Carter.

[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/emily-carter/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes/acompanhantes-lisboa/acompanhante-emily-carter[/URL]

Mavie:

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-mavie-8096[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2895382]

Ines.

[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]

[/QUOTE]Definitely a great choice.

Thanks so much, this is amazing. Ines looks amazing from her pics. Sorry for the silly question, but is this massage only? I only had one experience via this website a few years ago and it was just a massage. It was nice, but I was looking for more. .

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2895382]Always glad to help a fellow former resident. I'm going to focus on incall service, because it is so much the better value right now. All the ladies listed have good reputations and charge in the 120-150/ h range. Sticking to the everyone should agree they're petite:

Ines.

[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]

[/QUOTE]

Bump Ines review for Darranian 100.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2723053]Ines would appear to be a no on anal according to the details of her reviews on the big American review board:

"Got into her room, she really reminds me of Lindsey Lohan for some reason, or that was the famous person she reminded me of. We started with a quick massage after a DFK greet. Her breasts are A's, a bit of sag, but I think she was beautiful. WALDT. We hit it off right away, joked around while we made out and I kissed her everywhere, was really like being with a real GF. Major passion from her and we really clicked. She was great at BBBJ and really wanted me to CIM this session, which I was happy to oblige after we had sex in many different positions, with DATY thrown into the mix in between. Some DATO too, though she wasn't into anal or fingers up her ass. I made her cum a few times, to the point where she had to push me away, she was so sensitive. She was so happy she came, it ignited another level of passion with her and we just kept DFK, kissing easch other everywhere, into one sweaty entanglement of limbs, bodies and tongues. I'll def see her again, hope to get back to Lisbon soon. "

"After the shower, she helped towel me off and I laid down on her tatami. She started with a nice masssage, that soon turned into a full body to body massage. Once I turned over we started some really nice DFK, and touches began all over. She went down on me, and it was one of the best BBBJ's that I have experienced, and I have had many. I asked to reciprocate, and she gladly accepted. She really heated up, and it felt like she came 3-4 times in pretty quick order. While I wanted to fuck her, her BBBJ was so good, and she asked for my milk. Who was I to turn her down. Exploded in her mouth and some on her face. We rested for a little while, and while she was game for round 2, I didn't have it in me. She is not a natural beauty, but is quite cute, with a sexual way about her that is off the charts. A definite must see in Lisbon..[/QUOTE]

I had a nice WhatsApp exchange with Mavie about making an appointment for a future trip.

I think she would be an excellent choice. And her local board reviews are excellent.

A person likely needs to travel to Estoril to see her for incall, but that is a touristy beach town close to "downtown" Lisbon.

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2895382]Always glad to help a fellow former resident. I'm going to focus on incall service, because it is so much the better value right now. All the ladies listed have good reputations and charge in the 120-150/ h range. Sticking to the everyone should agree they're petite:

Ines.

[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]

Emily Carter.

[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/emily-carter/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes/acompanhantes-lisboa/acompanhante-emily-carter[/URL]

Mavie:

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-mavie-8096[/URL][/QUOTE]

Yes. If Mavie keeps her apartment where I suspect she does, you don't even need a car. Just take Linha the Cascais to the Estoril / Casino stop, and then use the beach promenade to stroll over to Praia de Poca. It's very close to that beach.

Posting in Lisbon because it's the largest.

I recently went to Porto, Coimbra, and Lisbon.

I'm highly impressed with the options and prices available on Apartadox and Massagerepublic.

I think Portugal may be the best country to find hot black girls in a place that you feel safe and comfortable in between times, due to all the Cape Verde, Mozambique, etc. Girls.

I'll definitely be back to monger in Portugal.

Prices are great, too.

It was bound to happen. It happens to everyone in this game. Ugh. Found myself in Lisbon for one night only, a quick stop before hitting my final destination. I've had great success here in the past, with both "Seeking" and AP / EP. In any event, chatted to this babe for about 2. 5 weeks on Seeking before arriving. Arranged dinner and an unspecified number of hours back at the hotel for 300. I got the impression she's spend the night if all went well. She's professionally employed in the health industry as am I and we chatted on many topics.

I arrive, check in and send her a message, All appears well. At the appointed time she appears at the hotel and looked great, but very unsteady on her feet. In fact she tripped heading out to the taxi and speech a bit slurred. We made it to the restaurant and somehow made it through dinner but the conversation was stunted. I suspect she was under the influence of both alcohol and who knows. Trips again leaving the restaurant. Back in the hotel, we drink some more wine. I head to the washroom and when I came out she's slumped in a chair with her tits hanging out. Her clothes come off and she gets on the bed. She was certainly awake, but might as well have been unconscious. At this point, there's not going to be any foreplay. I just spread her legs and fuck her. Once done she just sits up, asks for some more wine, drinks it and heads to the washroom where I find her puking her guts out. Fuck! Once she emerges, she wants to stay the night. Not happening. I get her bundled up, call her a taxi and escort her outside. I prepaid her fare and slipped her an envelope with 100 in it.

I'm pissed. This had all the potential of a great night and it was shit. After she left, I did scan AP and EP but it was late and in the end just said fuck it and went to bed. Never heard from her again and deleted her contact info. She is still on seeking.

3rd trip to Lisbon, first 2 were golden, but at some point your luck runs out.

[QUOTE=Stirling;2896108]It was bound to happen. It happens to everyone in this game. Ugh. Found myself in Lisbon for one night only, a quick stop before hitting my final destination. I've had great success here in the past, with both "Seeking" and AP / EP. In any event, chatted to this babe for about 2. 5 weeks on Seeking before arriving. Arranged dinner and an unspecified number of hours back at the hotel for 300. I got the impression she's spend the night if all went well. She's professionally employed in the health industry as am I and we chatted on many topics.

I arrive, check in and send her a message, All appears well. At the appointed time she appears at the hotel and looked great, but very unsteady on her feet. In fact she tripped heading out to the taxi and speech a bit slurred. We made it to the restaurant and somehow made it through dinner but the conversation was stunted. I suspect she was under the influence of both alcohol and who knows. Trips again leaving the restaurant. Back in the hotel, we drink some more wine. I head to the washroom and when I came out she's slumped in a chair with her tits hanging out. Her clothes come off and she gets on the bed. She was certainly awake, but might as well have been unconscious. At this point, there's not going to be any foreplay. I just spread her legs and fuck her. Once done she just sits up, asks for some more wine, drinks it and heads to the washroom where I find her puking her guts out. Fuck! Once she emerges, she wants to stay the night. Not happening. I get her bundled up, call her a taxi and escort her outside. I prepaid her fare and slipped her an envelope with 100 in it.

I'm pissed. This had all the potential of a great night and it was shit. After she left, I did scan AP and EP but it was late and in the end just said fuck it and went to bed. Never heard from her again and deleted her contact info. She is still on seeking.

3rd trip to Lisbon, first 2 were golden, but at some point your luck runs out.[/QUOTE]Maybe I missed something in the details here but the next time a random chick is near unconscious in your presence in a foreign country, might be best to not go ahead and fuck her. Not going to be worth it on almost every front and the consequences could be devastating if she comes to her senses and decides that she didn't give consent.

Despite my original search for some A-levels fun, I decided to follow the good reviews I read on Viviane Miler (Vivi).

She responded quite quickly, and was flexible with times.

Definitely a girl next door type of lady, very natural, maybe 20-22 yo and authentic. Small nose piercing and curly hair, and a really nice body.

Her BBJ skills were amazing, and she is a very good kisser. We took different positions and in each of them she was quite active. Finished on her tits which she seemed to enjoy.

A nice mix of authenticity, innocent and genuine GFE (with blowjob of PSE quality).

A recommendation from my side!

[QUOTE=Stirling;2896108] I suspect she was under the influence of both alcohol and who knows. (...) Back in the hotel, we drink some more wine. (...) Once done she just sits up, asks for some more wine, drinks it and heads to the washroom where I find her puking her guts out. [/QUOTE]She was in the sorry state she was and you gave her... more... and more wine?!!!...

[QUOTE=PER23;2896157]Maybe I missed something in the details here but the next time a random chick is near unconscious in your presence in a foreign country, might be best to not go ahead and fuck her. Not going to be worth it on almost every front and the consequences could be devastating if she comes to her senses and decides that she didn't give consent.[/QUOTE]Based on what I wrote, that's fair. I obviously overstated her condition. Her demeanour never changed from the time we met to the time she left. She was completely lucid the entire time and as stated, perhaps clumsily, she stripped off on her own volition and initiated contact. That said, she was as active as a dead fish. After she got sick she wanted to continue. I should have ended the date before it began. In any event, a horrible time all around.

Thank you very much for getting back to us with your experience and recommendation.

Viviane Miler has gotten nothing but excellent reviews and is a beacon of hope in Lisbon for the 18-22 year olds who are absent from sex work compared to a decade or two ago.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/viviane-miler/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-viviane-miller-7118[/URL]

[QUOTE=JoyTraveller;2896272]Despite my original search for some A-levels fun, I decided to follow the good reviews I read on Viviane Miler (Vivi).

She responded quite quickly, and was flexible with times.

Definitely a girl next door type of lady, very natural, maybe 20-22 yo and authentic. Small nose piercing and curly hair, and a really nice body.

Her BBJ skills were amazing, and she is a very good kisser. We took different positions and in each of them she was quite active. Finished on her tits which she seemed to enjoy.

A nice mix of authenticity, innocent and genuine GFE (with blowjob of PSE quality).

A recommendation from my side![/QUOTE]

First of all, just wanted to say thanks to all the good people in this Forum. Really helped me a lot during my visits to Lisbon!

This is my first report so forgive me for the terminology but it's important for me to contribute back.

Few months ago I gave a call to Lisa Mendes:

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/lisa-mendes/[/URL]

Back then she was using a different alias, I believe it was Adriana Santos. I'm 99% sure it is same girl.

Everything was arranged via WhatsApp, simple and easy. She arrived on time, maybe 10 minutes late and entered my hotel room dressed like the girl next door but I could immediately tell she is good looking. She is not thin but definitely not fat, has an amazing tits and ass, natural blonde hair. Not looking like a typical Portuguesa girl but more like she's Ukraine (I asked and she insisted she is 100% Portugal), She has some tattoos that are not shown on the website.

She has very good English so we had a little chat to break the ice. After a quick shower the action started and it was very good. She gives an amazing OWO, maybe the best I've had so far in my life, I couldn't hold on and finished with CIM. We took a short break and started the second round, that was good as well.

Overall, highly recommended from my side.

Fortunately I had the opportunity to go back to Lisbon a short time ago. This time I decided to try something different and looked for a massage. The name Isis came highly recommended in this forum, I tried to text her but she didn't reply and my window of opportunity was closing. So I did a little digging in the local forum and the name Angel came up:

[URL]https://somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1499-angel-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL]

Again everything was arranged by WhatsApp, she replied quickly and sent me some options and prices. I chose the "body to body" massage, 1 hour for 100 euro. She sent me her location, which is on the upper side of the city not far from El Corte Ingles. Her place is located on a high floor and the elevator is not working so prepare your self for a long climb upstairs. Her room is nice and clean with a small shower inside the room. Her English is OK, but not as great as Lisa's so not much talking was made but it's enough to get by. She gave me a clean towel and I took a quick shower, when I came out of the shower she was all naked and I could finally see her nice body. Big juicy ass and nice size tits, although a little saggy. She started with a nice back massage, indeed body to body, and allowed me to touch pretty much everything I wanted to. After A short while she told me to flip over, she did a little teasing and quickly moved downstairs for a nice HJ and OWO until the end. Another quick shower and I was out the door about 50 minutes later in total.

Overall, OK from my side.

Don't know if this was mentioned already but I'm pretty sure this is the former Soraia Albuquerque - [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-frederica-alves-8334[/URL].

Those tits don't lie.

Yes -- she also went independent. Like Flora, she is under-charging EP too. Last I checked, they both were asking 180/ h.

[QUOTE=PER23;2896476]Don't know if this was mentioned already but I'm pretty sure this is the former Soraia Albuquerque - [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-frederica-alves-8334[/URL].

Those tits don't lie.[/QUOTE]

It's too bad that Isis didn't respond, but she was out of town / otherwise on holiday for a time recently. You probably just missed her.

Yes, Lisa Mendes was Adriana Santos, and Bianca Pereira before that.

[QUOTE=DBoznach;2896469]First of all, just wanted to say thanks to all the good people in this Forum. Really helped me a lot during my visits to Lisbon!

This is my first report so forgive me for the terminology but it's important for me to contribute back.

Few months ago I gave a call to Lisa Mendes:

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/lisa-mendes/[/URL]

Back then she was using a different alias, I believe it was Adriana Santos. I'm 99% sure it is same girl.

Everything was arranged via WhatsApp, simple and easy. She arrived on time, maybe 10 minutes late and entered my hotel room dressed like the girl next door but I could immediately tell she is good looking. She is not thin but definitely not fat, has an amazing tits and ass, natural blonde hair. Not looking like a typical Portuguesa girl but more like she's Ukraine (I asked and she insisted she is 100% Portugal), She has some tattoos that are not shown on the website.

She has very good English so we had a little chat to break the ice. After a quick shower the action started and it was very good. She gives an amazing OWO, maybe the best I've had so far in my life, I couldn't hold on and finished with CIM. We took a short break and started the second round, that was good as well.

Overall, highly recommended from my side.

Fortunately I had the opportunity to go back to Lisbon a short time ago. This time I decided to try something different and looked for a massage. The name Isis came highly recommended in this forum, I tried to text her but she didn't reply and my window of opportunity was closing. So I did a little digging in the local forum and the name Angel came up:

[URL]https://somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1499-angel-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL]

Again everything was arranged by WhatsApp, she replied quickly and sent me some options and prices. I chose the "body to body" massage, 1 hour for 100 euro. She sent me her location, which is on the upper side of the city not far from El Corte Ingles. Her place is located on a high floor and the elevator is not working so prepare your self for a long climb upstairs. Her room is nice and clean with a small shower inside the room. Her English is OK, but not as great as Lisa's so not much talking was made but it's enough to get by. She gave me a clean towel and I took a quick shower, when I came out of the shower she was all naked and I could finally see her nice body. Big juicy ass and nice size tits, although a little saggy. She started with a nice back massage, indeed body to body, and allowed me to touch pretty much everything I wanted to. After A short while she told me to flip over, she did a little teasing and quickly moved downstairs for a nice HJ and OWO until the end. Another quick shower and I was out the door about 50 minutes later in total.

Overall, OK from my side.[/QUOTE]

Thank you very much for the lovely report. I am intrigued by your massage review. Have you tried any other massage places? Somassagens website photos are good.

[QUOTE=DBoznach;2896469]First of all, just wanted to say thanks to all the good people in this Forum. Really helped me a lot during my visits to Lisbon!

This is my first report so forgive me for the terminology but it's important for me to contribute back.

Few months ago I gave a call to Lisa Mendes:

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/lisa-mendes/[/URL]

Back then she was using a different alias, I believe it was Adriana Santos. I'm 99% sure it is same girl.

Everything was arranged via WhatsApp, simple and easy. She arrived on time, maybe 10 minutes late and entered my hotel room dressed like the girl next door but I could immediately tell she is good looking. She is not thin but definitely not fat, has an amazing tits and ass, natural blonde hair. Not looking like a typical Portuguesa girl but more like she's Ukraine (I asked and she insisted she is 100% Portugal), She has some tattoos that are not shown on the website.

She has very good English so we had a little chat to break the ice. After a quick shower the action started and it was very good. She gives an amazing OWO, maybe the best I've had so far in my life, I couldn't hold on and finished with CIM. We took a short break and started the second round, that was good as well.

Overall, highly recommended from my side.

Fortunately I had the opportunity to go back to Lisbon a short time ago. This time I decided to try something different and looked for a massage. The name Isis came highly recommended in this forum, I tried to text her but she didn't reply and my window of opportunity was closing. So I did a little digging in the local forum and the name Angel came up:

[URL]https://somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1499-angel-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL]

Again everything was arranged by WhatsApp, she replied quickly and sent me some options and prices. I chose the "body to body" massage, 1 hour for 100 euro. She sent me her location, which is on the upper side of the city not far from El Corte Ingles. Her place is located on a high floor and the elevator is not working so prepare your self for a long climb upstairs. Her room is nice and clean with a small shower inside the room. Her English is OK, but not as great as Lisa's so not much talking was made but it's enough to get by. She gave me a clean towel and I took a quick shower, when I came out of the shower she was all naked and I could finally see her nice body. Big juicy ass and nice size tits, although a little saggy. She started with a nice back massage, indeed body to body, and allowed me to touch pretty much everything I wanted to. After A short while she told me to flip over, she did a little teasing and quickly moved downstairs for a nice HJ and OWO until the end. Another quick shower and I was out the door about 50 minutes later in total.

Overall, OK from my side.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vitrea;2898649]Thank you very much for the lovely report. I am intrigued by your massage review. Have you tried any other massage places? Somassagens website photos are good.[/QUOTE]On the massage side, you might take note that Lara Shultz has returned after working in another country. She offers CFS, but many of her reviewers say they go for the excellent massage (she is believed to have some professional training) and her very renowned BBBJTCIM skills. Her prices are very reasonable, including the availability of 30 minute sessions. I don't know how much English she speaks.

[URL]https://www.classificadosx.net/pt/anuncio/20-mulheres-lisboa/412217-valentines-day-somente-hj-933-[/URL]

Dear all,

On the local board, there is a girl named Isabella Venturi who has received very positive comments. Despite my preference for black girls, the comments intrigue me. Does anyone have further information about this girl?

Goodbye.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2896358]Thank you very much for getting back to us with your experience and recommendation.

Viviane Miler has gotten nothing but excellent reviews and is a beacon of hope in Lisbon for the 18-22 year olds who are absent from sex work compared to a decade or two ago.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/viviane-miler/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-viviane-miller-7118[/URL][/QUOTE]

Isabela isn't all that new. She does a duo with Patricia Navarro. Although not as well-established as her partner, she is very well-liked among the locals.

[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes/acompanhantes-lisboa/acompanhante-isabela-venturi[/URL]

[QUOTE=Emeli67;2899291]Dear all,

On the local board, there is a girl named Isabella Venturi who has received very positive comments. Despite my preference for black girls, the comments intrigue me. Does anyone have further information about this girl?

Goodbye.[/QUOTE]

Long time lurker on this thread. Had planned to come to Portugal in 2020 but we all know what happened then. Will keep it short and sweet.

I am heading to Lisbon in mid May, and then down the the Algarve for a few days after the weeks work is done.

Would I be better off looking for girls to come to me or me to go to them? Generally outcalls are more expensive but in some countries you get better options. I am thinking around 120 max for an hour. Is this incall price only?

Is it better for me to look in Lisbon or for when I get to the Algarve? Finally, which sites are best for this budget option range I am looking for? I've clicked on links to a couple of posts regarding EP and a couple of other sites. Mainly 200 an hour. Someone did post a couple pages back about someone coming back and charging 120. For me it is sampling the scene. Would be nice to get Portuguese, but don't mind Brazilian or Portuguese African like Mozambique etc. Someone who offers the services they advertise and does it with a smile. If anyone has any specific links or tips as to which sites are best please let me know. I have seen some adverts around this price on MR but I'm sure there are better websites than this specific to Portugal.

Thank you for your help.

Rex.

[QUOTE=RajaSaurus;2899846]Long time lurker on this thread. Had planned to come to Portugal in 2020 but we all know what happened then. Will keep it short and sweet.

I am heading to Lisbon in mid May, and then down the the Algarve for a few days after the weeks work is done.

Would I be better off looking for girls to come to me or me to go to them? Generally outcalls are more expensive but in some countries you get better options. I am thinking around 120 max for an hour. Is this incall price only?

Is it better for me to look in Lisbon or for when I get to the Algarve? Finally, which sites are best for this budget option range I am looking for? I've clicked on links to a couple of posts regarding EP and a couple of other sites. Mainly 200 an hour. Someone did post a couple pages back about someone coming back and charging 120. For me it is sampling the scene. Would be nice to get Portuguese, but don't mind Brazilian or Portuguese African like Mozambique etc. Someone who offers the services they advertise and does it with a smile. If anyone has any specific links or tips as to which sites are best please let me know. I have seen some adverts around this price on MR but I'm sure there are better websites than this specific to Portugal.

Thank you for your help.

Rex.[/QUOTE]It isn't realistic to expect quality outcall in Europe for 120 an hour from quality GFE providers.

A lady in Lisbon will have 45-60 minute of transit time to and from your hotel, plus Uber / Taxi. So you would be asking her to work for 40 euros an hour. That is cheaper than Cambodia, I think.

Portugal is one of the most affordable countries in Europe. If you want an hour for 120-150 euros, you need to go see them, which is the standard in Lisbon.

Among active ads at the moment, here are some excellent GFE choices that should be in the price range you mentioned.

[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-mavie-8096[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-eller-rocha-4428[/URL]

[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes/acompanhantes-lisboa/acompanhante-patricia-navarro[/URL]

[URL]https://www.classificadosx.net/pt/anuncio/20-mulheres-lisboa/412217-valentines-day-somente-hj-933-[/URL]

[URL]https://portalprivado.com/pt/acompanhantes/acompanhantes-lisboa/acompanhante-silvia-nobre[/URL]

Hi Rex,

The going rate for incall services in Lisbon is 120-150. I did some asking around recently and discovered some ladies that were asking for 150 or even more for incall as recently as last summer are now down to 120 or 130. It's a good time to do incall.

It is common for ladies who advertise on certain international sites to mark up their prices, so if you approach them without a default text that says "I found you on EuroGirls" or whatever, you can avoid a tourist tax. I think if a lady opens by asking for more than 150 for incall, you should decline. There are plenty of good options and therefore no need to haggle with someone trying to tourist tax you.

Escort Privada, the outcall agency, recently hiked their flat rate to 200/ h. Most outcall providers are therefore asking for 200 or more now. Flora Neves and Frederica Alves were asking 180 not long ago, but that could change.

I don't have any recent experience with the Algarve, but I would be surprised to learn providers there are asking more than those in Lisbon. The roster in the Algarve, however, is not nearly as deep as Lisbon.

The local advertising sites to rely upon are Apartadox, Portalprivado, Somassagens and Docemassagem. Apartadox and Portalprivado in particular have ads for both Lisbon and the Algarve.

Is Emily Carter really that well regarded? She caught my eye, but checking the reviews on the local board showed mixed reviews.

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2895382]

Emily Carter.

[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/emily-carter/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes/acompanhantes-lisboa/acompanhante-emily-carter[/URL]

[/QUOTE]

I had a short trip to Lisbon. Was able to meet with three:

Federica Alves first. (Decent. Very attractive body and service oriented. Great communication.).

Viviane Miller second. (Best of all by far. Amazing. Pretty responsive by text).

Emily Carter last. (Very sweet. A very nice experience.).

I really wanted to meet Flora, but could not get her to answer a text in the week prior.

See the brief review below about Emily. Also about Frederica / Soraia. I agree with both comments on them and the positive side of the mixed reviews.

Time to start catching you folks up with recent experiences. When I got to Portugal, I found myself with about four hours of free time I did not expect, but I was in Cascais and physically shattered. So, over lunch I went looking for a massage and one that put the massage part first.

Inside the location, time frame and my physical state I wound up breaking some new ground. I'm unaware of any review of Anabella anywhere:

[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/anabella/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/estoril/1324-anabela-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL]

My guess is she is in her early forties, spends a lot of time in the gym and it shows, has solid implants and is very Brasilian with average looks. I had guessed as much from the pictures and wasn't surprised.

What decided it for me, aside from her being the only one who met my criteria and responded, was the prices: 100/ h and 150 for 1 1/2 hours. That is very reasonable, so I went for it, and I wasn't disappointed. The massage was good -- not excellent, but good. I'm guessing that for her 90 minutes, she does her 30 minute routine and then follows with the different and separate 60 minute routine. The result was a decent massage, some body to body, with two happy endings. HJ only, no FS, but that is what I wanted -- I was too beat for FS.

So, if I were doing letter grades, this one was a see+/ be-. It is much better than your typical American AMP experience for sure, but by Lisbon standards would be merely OK, except for the pricing.

[QUOTE=RobotoVoice;2900822]Is Emily Carter really that well regarded? She caught my eye, but checking the reviews on the local board showed mixed reviews.[/QUOTE]

I will arrive in Lisbon this weekend. I have been reading this forum and it's very helpful. I can only do outcalls so a little bummed I will miss out on Ms Miller & Flora Neves. Based on everyone's feedback my list includes Amanda Marques, Aurora Vaz, Patrícia Navarro, Rebecca Diniz and Eller Rocha. I will probably have time to see 2 ladies and will try to set up the appointments a day in advance. Do the ladies supply condoms like in the US? Sounds like you pay after the service, right? Anything else a first timer to Lisbon should know? Thanks in advance for your help.

[QUOTE=TigerMuskie;2901246]I will arrive in Lisbon this weekend. I have been reading this forum and it's very helpful. I can only do outcalls so a little bummed I will miss out on Ms Miller & Flora Neves. Based on everyone's feedback my list includes Amanda Marques, Aurora Vaz, Patrcia Navarro, Rebecca Diniz and Eller Rocha. I will probably have time to see 2 ladies and will try to set up the appointments a day in advance. Do the ladies supply condoms like in the US? Sounds like you pay after the service, right? Anything else a first timer to Lisbon should know? Thanks in advance for your help.[/QUOTE]I meant to say I can only do incalls since I am traveling with my teenage son. Thanks.

[QUOTE=TigerMuskie;2901256]I meant to say I can only do incalls since I am traveling with my teenage son. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Fortunately, the pay upfront or at the end silliness has never entered the Lisbon thread.

Personally, I think you get the best service by putting the money, often in an envelope, on the dresser draw at the beginning. That way she knows you aren't going to rip her off.

ISG covers a lot of countries and a lot of social classes.

Portugal is a first world European Western country.

The argument for paying at the end comes from third world guys who see third world women. They argue she may dash if she sees the cash, which of course isn't applicable to incall other than Love Motels that are most often in third world countries, or that her service level will decrease if she has been paid. Neither of those are true with respect to the ladies on your list. You will get good service as a paying foreigner, in fact the same service you would get as a regular local.

Yes, they bring condoms. The good news is that every Portuguese lady I have seen was okay with using the ones I brought, since I prefer a certain brand and type.

I don't think you can go wrong with anyone on that list, and unless I'm mistaken all of them are in that "new downtown" hot zone of Picoas, Saldanha, Campo Pequeno and Entrecampos. So who to call first is down to tour preferences. For example, if you prefer an all-natural look, Eller is the only one on that list. But if you don't like tattoos,. She has two sleeves and full back art.

Yes, ladies provide condoms. Always. Expect to be required to shower before, unless you bathed so recently you look squeaky clean. And when to pay -- at the beginning or the end -- is at the lady's preference.

[QUOTE=TigerMuskie;2901246]I will arrive in Lisbon this weekend. I have been reading this forum and it's very helpful. I can only do outcalls so a little bummed I will miss out on Ms Miller & Flora Neves. Based on everyone's feedback my list includes Amanda Marques, Aurora Vaz, Patrcia Navarro, Rebecca Diniz and Eller Rocha. I will probably have time to see 2 ladies and will try to set up the appointments a day in advance. Do the ladies supply condoms like in the US? Sounds like you pay after the service, right? Anything else a first timer to Lisbon should know? Thanks in advance for your help.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ElBurroEsta;2900844]I had a short trip to Lisbon. Was able to meet with three:

Federica Alves first. (Decent. Very attractive body and service oriented. Great communication.).

Viviane Miller second. (Best of all by far. Amazing. Pretty responsive by text).

Emily Carter last. (Very sweet. A very nice experience.).

I really wanted to meet Flora, but could not get her to answer a text in the week prior.[/QUOTE]I have an apartment in Lisbon. Will the girls visit personal residences?

I just met Vivian today and honestly she's going straight into my hall of fame. She's the perfect GFE, great oral skills, very active, FK, a nice slim body with great tits and a nice little ass. Overall she looked very into it even during the shower (I know it might be an act. But if so, she deserve an Oscar).

The booking was quick and easy, she came in 40 minutes.

Thank you for the recommendation, you transformed a borring canceled flight night into a great experience.

In conclusion, it is now my turn to encourage you to meet her.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2896358]Thank you very much for getting back to us with your experience and recommendation.

Viviane Miler has gotten nothing but excellent reviews and is a beacon of hope in Lisbon for the 18-22 year olds who are absent from sex work compared to a decade or two ago.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/viviane-miler/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-viviane-miller-7118[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Akibono;2901319]I have an apartment in Lisbon. Will the girls visit personal residences?[/QUOTE]Some will. That is up to the lady. No one will be offended that you asked.

About Annabel from the other day: I think she also does FS and advertises on Apartadox. This Anna Leite looks like her. She is not to be confused with the much more beautiful Anna Carol Leite, who is at Nuru Spa Cascais.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-anna-leite-6564[/URL]

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2901289]I don't think you can go wrong with anyone on that list, and unless I'm mistaken all of them are in that "new downtown" hot zone of Picoas, Saldanha, Campo Pequeno and Entrecampos. So who to call first is down to tour preferences. For example, if you prefer an all-natural look, Eller is the only one on that list. But if you don't like tattoos,. She has two sleeves and full back art.

Yes, ladies provide condoms. Always. Expect to be required to shower before, unless you bathed so recently you look squeaky clean. And when to pay -- at the beginning or the end -- is at the lady's preference.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your response. I will report back after my trip.

[QUOTE=Hecto;2901340]I just met Vivian today and honestly she's going straight into my hall of fame. She's the perfect GFE, great oral skills, very active, FK, a nice slim body with great tits and a nice little ass. Overall she looked very into it even during the shower (I know it might be an act. But if so, she deserve an Oscar).

The booking was quick and easy, she came in 40 minutes.

Thank you for the recommendation, you transformed a borring canceled flight night into a great experience.

In conclusion, it is now my turn to encourage you to meet her.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much for the review. I will definitely see her on the next trip.

She is in Monte Estoril, but says she will move to Porto soon. Even so, she may come back to Cascais or Lisbon. Some working girls move around like that.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-sofia-amorim-7229[/URL]

As you can see from the pictures, she is a sexy one in a Brasilian way. Big implants, but they are soft and well done (you can feel her real breasts in there); her booty matches, and you can feel the gym in her thighs and glutes. She has some tasteful tats.

Sofia opened with a kind of tantric and body to body performance -- a good deal of blowing air, brushing with the hair, and rubbing those boobies on you. It's not done with oil and is actually a fun starter. She then started with reverse cowgirl followed by front cow girl. Up until that point, that was a rehearsed show, and this is where things broke down for me.

Sofia had some high marks with the locals, but I found her performance polite, but wooden. So I disagree with them. She's a hottie, but a. Basic kind of hottie. Her sex is dressed up, but pretty average at its core. Some folks may value that.

But honestly, I'd have been better off going to see Ana Carol Leite over in Cascais. At 150/h, they charge the same. Ana is hotter and much more fun.

First off, the Apartadox photoshoot is the least of what Luna has done. Her ads in Portalprivado were much better, but she hasn't renewed her ad there. Check for it if interested, because maybe she will put one up.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-lunna-cardoso-8239[/URL]

[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/luna-cardoso/436021/?list=teiiq8[/URL]

Luna is maybe 23-26, and looks like a pretty student with a model's body. In some ways, she has a lot in common with Flora Neves. Both as tall, leggy, slender, have long, dark, thick and curly manes of hair, and both have wonderful, natural breasts (Luna's are medium, Flora's large). Luna is Brasilian and I think is more conventionally pretty.

Luna's main strength in bed is that she is a great kisser, and she will kiss you everywhere. What I found is she responds best if you take charge and give her some hard action. Although not exactly passive, when she takes the lead its inauthentic. Her reviews on the local board are all 7 and 8, and with her strengths and weaknesses, I can see why. She is a good lay, but not a very good or great one.

Luna charges 130/ h. As of my visit, she is in Entrecampos in Lisbon.

Portalprivado is, in my opinion, one of the most photoshopped sites out there; angles and lighting manipulated, extreme accentuation of bodily curves, etc etc. You only have to compare the pictures on EP / Apartadox with Portalprivado to see the vast difference. EP / Apartadox were a far more realistic representation, for ladies I've seen who were also on Portalprivado. Some comments on the local board say the same.

Thanks for the Luna C review. I was tempted to contact her when I was last there, but I was put off by local board comments saying that she likes to dictate how the session goes, and won't really allow you to do the things you want to do. I understand that some ladies may not offer all services, but after agreeing things beforehand, I want to be able to guide the lady on how the session goes. She also charges extra for a number of services that other girls include as standard (e.g. FIV, cunnilingus, CIM). But glad to hear you weren't disappointed overall.

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2901747]First off, the Apartadox photoshoot is the least of what Luna has done. Her ads in Portalprivado were much better, but she hasn't renewed her ad there. Check for it if interested, because maybe she will put one up.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-lunna-cardoso-8239[/URL]

[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/luna-cardoso/436021/?list=teiiq8[/URL]

Luna is maybe 23-26, and looks like a pretty student with a model's body. In some ways, she has a lot in common with Flora Neves. Both as tall, leggy, slender, have long, dark, thick and curly manes of hair, and both have wonderful, natural breasts (Luna's are medium, Flora's large). Luna is Brasilian and I think is more conventionally pretty.

Luna's main strength in bed is that she is a great kisser, and she will kiss you everywhere. What I found is she responds best if you take charge and give her some hard action. Although not exactly passive, when she takes the lead its inauthentic. Her reviews on the local board are all 7 and 8, and with her strengths and weaknesses, I can see why. She is a good lay, but not a very good or great one.

Luna charges 130/ h. As of my visit, she is in Entrecampos in Lisbon.[/QUOTE]

I want to make this crystal clear: Luna's Portalprivado shoots were all very accurate. In fact, her first one -- where she did geek girl with glasses -- was most authentic to her personality.

Aurora Vaz only advertises on PP, and her shoots are 100% accurate. PP is the only ad site Isis Lisboa keeps up to date, and her shoots are accurate. Patricia Navarro prefers PP, as do her chosen partners for duos. Those shoots are honest. Etc etc etc.

The main problem with Portugal's photo-verified sites isn't misleading photoshoots, but old, out of date photoshoots. A lot of folks who aren't regularly in Portugal and therefore watching these things may not know that ad was shot three years ago, and the lady doesn't look like that anymore. The second worst problem is the way EP allows their truly bad actors to change names and stay on the roster -- tracking them is a pain in the ass.

The one time I have felt misled by the photos was with Apartadox, not Portalprivado. When I compare the two, I see two different styles, but one isn't really more "misleading" than the other.

Hi Harry.

The thing about this thing of ours is that sometimes what a reviewer talks about has a lot to do with the reviewer himself, and not what actually happened. That was definitely the case with Sofia Amorim, who was a little disappointing. I suppose that guy likes what she brings; I liked it less.

In Luna's case, she definitely has a way she likes to get started, but when I took over she went with me gladly, so I don't know why someone would say she is rigid about what she will do (except for time control -- she keeps things inside the mandated time). I may not agree with all the details on the local board, but YMMV, and I think the consistent 7/8 out of 10 scoring is very on the dot. That is for a lady who has settled on 130/ h, so I think it's pretty fair all things considered.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2899919]It isn't realistic to expect quality outcall in Europe for 120 an hour from quality GFE providers.

A lady in Lisbon will have 45-60 minute of transit time to and from your hotel, plus Uber / Taxi. So you would be asking her to work for 40 euros an hour. That is cheaper than Cambodia, I think.

Portugal is one of the most affordable countries in Europe. If you want an hour for 120-150 euros, you need to go see them, which is the standard in Lisbon.

Among active ads at the moment, here are some excellent GFE choices that should be in the price range you mentioned.

[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-mavie-8096[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-eller-rocha-4428[/URL]

[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes/acompanhantes-lisboa/acompanhante-patricia-navarro[/URL]

[URL]https://www.classificadosx.net/pt/anuncio/20-mulheres-lisboa/412217-valentines-day-somente-hj-933-[/URL]

[URL]https://portalprivado.com/pt/acompanhantes/acompanhantes-lisboa/acompanhante-silvia-nobre[/URL][/QUOTE]Thank you for these links and info. From what I gather you say incall prices will be cheaper, however will this mean I have less options to pick from? Or is it the other way round where more do incall as opposed to outcall? I am more than happy to travel to them if this is the case.

Also regrading the links you sent, only 1 has a price of 130 and it says that ad does not exist, silvia nobre comes up with a failed link too. Other than messaging and contacting every single girl on each of the sites, is there a way to filter down based on price range?

Seems silly I know but everywhere I have been before I either go to brothels where the price is set, or when I look online the price is with the persons advert and if they do incall or outcall.

I am happy to message a few I like, but no point in me haggling down to 120 when they are starting at 250 for example.

Appreciate any follow up or you can PM me if easier?

Rex.

[QUOTE=RajaSaurus;2901936]Thank you for these links and info. From what I gather you say incall prices will be cheaper, however will this mean I have less options to pick from? Or is it the other way round where more do incall as opposed to outcall? I am more than happy to travel to them if this is the case.

Also regrading the links you sent, only 1 has a price of 130 and it says that ad does not exist, silvia nobre comes up with a failed link too. Other than messaging and contacting every single girl on each of the sites, is there a way to filter down based on price range?

Seems silly I know but everywhere I have been before I either go to brothels where the price is set, or when I look online the price is with the persons advert and if they do incall or outcall.

I am happy to message a few I like, but no point in me haggling down to 120 when they are starting at 250 for example..[/QUOTE]These are western women. They don't haggle on price at all. If you do that, they will stop communicating with you.

Lisbon doesn't have brothels. When you meet her for incall, it will just be you and her.

All but one of the ads works for me. I identified ladies who offer incall at a price lower than EP's outcall price to help you.

But you need to communicate with them to get current pricing information. The price for you will be the price charged to any customer. Apartadox simply doesn't allow prices to be displayed, whereas ClassificadosX does.

This is how independent incall sex work works in Portugal.

Patricia Navarro was asking 120/ h last I checked. Ines was like 120 or 130. I just wrote up Luna Cardoso, who would be a reasonable second choice to either and asks 130. The links to all of them worked for me.

BTW -- Rafaela Albuquerque recently returned to the scene. She has a strong reputation and is currently charging 120/h


https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes/acompanhantes-lisboa/acompanhante-rafaela-albuquerque

Silvia may have gone on a trip, be out sick, have decided she has enough new clients or gone back into retirement. Who knows?

[QUOTE=RajaSaurus;2901936]Thank you for these links and info. From what I gather you say incall prices will be cheaper, however will this mean I have less options to pick from? Or is it the other way round where more do incall as opposed to outcall? I am more than happy to travel to them if this is the case.

Also regrading the links you sent, only 1 has a price of 130 and it says that ad does not exist, silvia nobre comes up with a failed link too. Other than messaging and contacting every single girl on each of the sites, is there a way to filter down based on price range?

Seems silly I know but everywhere I have been before I either go to brothels where the price is set, or when I look online the price is with the persons advert and if they do incall or outcall.

I am happy to message a few I like, but no point in me haggling down to 120 when they are starting at 250 for example.

Appreciate any follow up or you can PM me if easier?

Rex.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2902002]Patricia Navarro was asking 120/ h last I checked. Ines was like 120 or 130. I just wrote up Luna Cardoso, who would be a reasonable second choice to either and asks 130. The links to all of them worked for me.

Silvia may have gone on a trip, be out sick, have decided she has enough new clients or gone back into retirement. Who knows?[/QUOTE]I appreciate both yours and brother Mongerer88 helping me with this. If I do indeed go for incall as you both have stated that is cheaper and easier, I also contact them not to haggle and using the sites you have provided, this will make my experience a lot better.

These sites have many girls / profiles, how do I filter them down based on price when it is not displayed? Or is it the fact that on these sites the ladies are generally priced around the same amount?

Regarding what Mongerer88 said about brothels. You told me to visit Somassagens. This seems to advertise many SPAs. Are these not brothels under another title? On this site some posted about being for massage only, I take that to mean they do not add extra services or offer escort options?

Finally and neither of you 2 may know this. What is the best time of day to go visit 1? Do they work late and get up late? Is it better to be the last punter or the first? If it is better to go at like 3 am, what is public transport like at that time of night?

Please do not think I am just asking and won't give in return, I will be posting about my trip once I return, with who I met and how it went. I think this would be the least I could do.

[QUOTE=RajaSaurus;2902004]I appreciate both yours and brother Mongerer88 helping me with this. If I do indeed go for incall as you both have stated that is cheaper and easier, I also contact them not to haggle and using the sites you have provided, this will make my experience a lot better.

These sites have many girls / profiles, how do I filter them down based on price when it is not displayed? Or is it the fact that on these sites the ladies are generally priced around the same amount?

Regarding what Mongerer88 said about brothels. You told me to visit Somassagens. This seems to advertise many SPAs. Are these not brothels under another title? On this site some posted about being for massage only, I take that to mean they do not add extra services or offer escort options?.[/QUOTE]No problem.

Mavie's two reviews on the local board have her at 80 euros for 30 minutes, with a 30 euro surcharge for anal, if available that day. There are no one hour reviews of her.

Eller Rocha's most recent reviews on the local board have her at 80 euros for 30 minutes and 150 euros for an hour.

You just have to WhatsApp them to see if those rates are current. The place I get burritos from has gone from $7.50 to $11.50 in the last year with $1 increments. We are living in an inflationary era, and sex isn't an exception to that.

Apartadox takes the position that it doesn't want to list prices. So sending WhatsApp messages is a way of life with Portugal. Many of them have an auto reply set up with rates.

While prostitution is legal for the seller and the purchaser in Portugal, many elements of prostitution such as operating a brothel are illegal and occasionally enforced, especially when the government wants to curb illegal immigrants working in the industry. This is likely why you don't find ubiquitous Asian massage parlors and clubs full of Romanians in Portugal. Which brings up the question of spas and line-ups and the availability of full-service at massage parlors. Yes, you will find reports of massage parlors in Lisbon where a guy got a line-up upon request and got full-service, often including CFS, BBBJ including CIM, and even anal sex. But you shouldn't really go in guns blazing and say you want to see every girl and have the ones who do CIM and anal line up on one side like you might do in Thailand. You have to have some grace and even some luck, because not every experience in the spas is the same. If CFS and BBBJ is the goal, and you want to walk in and politely request a line-up for ladies offering the Relaxing Massage, the Nuru Spa has the most favorable reports. But they are more expensive than incall independent escorts.

[URL]https://www.nuruspas.com/en[/URL]

The Nuru Spa is not really open that late at night according to the website. You can ask the various independents how late they take appointments. Lisbon isn't that much of a really late-night city like Madrid is. Hopefully your schedule permits seeing ladies during somewhat normal hours.

Fair enough, Luna's Portalprivado pics may well have been a good representation but when I compare ladies who are on both Apartadox and Portalprivado, it always strikes me how much more attractive they look on Portalprivado.

Just doing a quick check now of ladies such as Luna Reiz, Karol Prado and Nicole Splatz, they all look better on Portalprivado. I wouldn't say their Apartadox pics are out of date, its specifically the brighter lighting and magnifying of bodily curves on Portalprivado which makes the pictures more appealing.

I remember I saw a lady last year who looked incredible on Portalprivado, but in reality she looked more like her Apartadox pics.

Thanks for the positive affirmation of Luna, I may try and see her when next there although there are a few others I wish to see ahead of her.

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2901876]I want to make this crystal clear: Luna's Portalprivado shoots were all very accurate. In fact, her first one -- where she did geek girl with glasses -- was most authentic to her personality.

Aurora Vaz only advertises on PP, and her shoots are 100% accurate. PP is the only ad site Isis Lisboa keeps up to date, and her shoots are accurate. Patricia Navarro prefers PP, as do her chosen partners for duos. Those shoots are honest. Etc etc etc.

The main problem with Portugal's photo-verified sites isn't misleading photoshoots, but old, out of date photoshoots. A lot of folks who aren't regularly in Portugal and therefore watching these things may not know that ad was shot three years ago, and the lady doesn't look like that anymore. The second worst problem is the way EP allows their truly bad actors to change names and stay on the roster -- tracking them is a pain in the ass.

The one time I have felt misled by the photos was with Apartadox, not Portalprivado. When I compare the two, I see two different styles, but one isn't really more "misleading" than the other.[/QUOTE]

I met with Amanda Marques today. It was a good time. I was impressed by the pics on the site of her body. Her body was even better in person. 120/ HR, owo, DATY had a good time, massage and left a happy man. MSOG is available. I don't think that you can go wrong with Amanda. Aurora Vaz tired to charge me 180 for an incall and I passed. I really like spinners anyone have intel on Sophie?

[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/en/escorts/escorts-lisboa/escort-sofia-scarlett[/URL]

Thanks.

I met with Amanda Marques today. It was a good time. I was impressed by the pics on the site of her body. Her body was even better in person. 120/ HR, owo, DATY had a good time, massage and left a happy man. MSOG is available. I don't think that you can go wrong with Amanda. Aurora Vaz tired to charge me 180 for an incall and I passed. I really like spinners anyone have intel on Sophie?

[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/en/escorts/escorts-lisboa/escort-sofia-scarlett[/URL]

Thanks.

[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/flora-neves/646062/[/URL]

I wanted to have a quality GFE and spend time with someone as the focal point of the meet, and she delivered in that regard. Very much enjoyed the conversations while she was looking at me with that intense stare, sitting meekly between my legs during OWO. Sometimes I felt as if she maybe tried to slack on the activities, but it could be that was her just trying to keep the mood going, because she herself confirmed that she feels me very well, I. E. Knows how far I am from climax.

She kisses with just a little bit of her tongue, and despite me asking her a couple of times to include more of it she kept it mostly the same, which makes me believe that's just how she does it, I. E. Doesn't know how to do it differently. I'm a conventionally attractive guy and she for sure tried to please in general, so I feel like that's just as good as I could've gotten out of her. I would've preferred more passion in that regard, but it does remind me of my youth and inexperience, which kinds of makes it sweet.

There's one thing that people reported on the local forums, but I can't quite recall seeing in here: she has a distinct bitter smell on her once she starts going, the kind you associate with nervousness, even if she doesn't show it. It's not a problem for me, but I believe it's something people should be aware of. Thinking about it now, I kind of wish I tried to lick it off her, which is a first for me as I'm not at all into kinks.

After helping me finish she came back to me to cuddle and stayed with me well over the agreed period just talking, laughing, sharing stuff with me, and just in general being a sweetheart. This, on top of being able to discern genuine compliments, makes me want to become her regular.

Oh, nevermind Sofia -- she wants 200/ h for either incall or outcall. The girl has serious GPS.

That is a shame about Aurora. If she raised her incall to 180, well, that is unwarranted given that the incall range is 120-150. And if she was trying to do a tourist tax, that is just plain obnoxious.

[QUOTE=TigerMuskie;2902026]I met with Amanda Marques today. It was a good time. I was impressed by the pics on the site of her body. Her body was even better in person. 120/ HR, owo, DATY had a good time, massage and left a happy man. MSOG is available. I don't think that you can go wrong with Amanda. Aurora Vaz tired to charge me 180 for an incall and I passed. I really like spinners anyone have intel on Sophie?

[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/en/escorts/escorts-lisboa/escort-sofia-scarlett[/URL]

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TigerMuskie;2902027]I met with Amanda Marques today. It was a good time. I was impressed by the pics on the site of her body. Her body was even better in person. 120/ HR, owo, DATY had a good time, massage and left a happy man. MSOG is available. I don't think that you can go wrong with Amanda. Aurora Vaz tired to charge me 180 for an incall and I passed. I really like spinners anyone have intel on Sophie?

[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/en/escorts/escorts-lisboa/escort-sofia-scarlett[/URL]

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Classic good news and bad news.

The good news is that Sofia Scarlett got an 8 out of 10 in her only review on the local board based on her actually being a very hot 18-22 year old just like the pictures show.

The very bad news is that she is CBJ only, didn't even do much oral despite the condom being on, and checked constantly to see if the condom was still on during vaginal.

She was 200 euros an hour.

And when you look closer, an 8 out of 10 is actually the lowest score that reviewer gives out. Most of his other reviews are 9's out of 10.

So personally I would do a hard pass on her, given the importance of BBBJ to me.

Looking for reviews for [URL=https://escortprivada.com/escort/leticia-ramos/]Leticia Ramos[/URL]. If anyone has anything to share, please do.

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2902133]Oh, nevermind Sofia -- she wants 200/ h for either incall or outcall. The girl has serious GPS.

That is a shame about Aurora. If she raised her incall to 180, well, that is unwarranted given that the incall range is 120-150. And if she was trying to do a tourist tax, that is just plain obnoxious.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up on Sofia. Yes, Aurora was hitting me with the tourist tax. I am meeting Becky Diniz this afternoon. .

[QUOTE=NoTimezone;2902171]Looking for reviews for [URL=https://escortprivada.com/escort/leticia-ramos/]Leticia Ramos[/URL]. If anyone has anything to share, please do.[/QUOTE]Leticia Ramos is Iris / Mara Freitas, she just changed her name.

ExExpatriate is right. Old and heavily photoshoped pictures are used in the different sites. CassificadosX -- is the most notorious - 60 % of the pictures are either fake or totally out of date.

As usual the girls have ads on various web-sites and I do a search using their mobile-number. You encounter under the same phone-numer various ads on various sites with various pictures and different names. - Simply avoid -.

[QUOTE=Astroglider31;2902268]Leticia Ramos is Iris / Mara Freitas, she just changed her name.[/QUOTE]For third time now? That doesn't inspire confidence, but thanks for letting me know.

There may well be sites, for example classificados, where lots of pictures are out of date or 'fake'.

However, not being 'fake' or out of date doesn't mean the pics can't be guilty of heavy photoshopping.

Personally, if I see a lady with pictures on different sites which are slightly different, I ask myself whether i'd be prepared to see a lady who looks like the worst set of pictures. If the answer is no, i'd then do further research to determine which set of pictures may be most realistic; that's when you take into account your own opinion of the various sites.

It's awkward when a lady turns up to an outcall at your hotel and your first impressions are negative. It can sometimes be nothing to do with photoshopping or 'fakes' but simply due to an unattractive face which isn't shown at all in lots of pictures.

[QUOTE=CarlosPrimeros;2902481]ExExpatriate is right. Old and heavily photoshoped pictures are used in the different sites. CassificadosX -- is the most notorious - 60 % of the pictures are either fake or totally out of date.

As usual the girls have ads on various web-sites and I do a search using their mobile-number. You encounter under the same phone-numer various ads on various sites with various pictures and different names. - Simply avoid -.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NoTimezone;2902043][URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/flora-neves/646062/[/URL]

I wanted to have a quality GFE and spend time with someone as the focal point of the meet, and she delivered in that regard. Very much enjoyed the conversations while she was looking at me with that intense stare, sitting meekly between my legs during OWO. Sometimes I felt as if she maybe tried to slack on the activities, but it could be that was her just trying to keep the mood going, because she herself confirmed that she feels me very well, I. E. Knows how far I am from climax.

She kisses with just a little bit of her tongue, and despite me asking her a couple of times to include more of it she kept it mostly the same, which makes me believe that's just how she does it, I. E. Doesn't know how to do it differently. I'm a conventionally attractive guy and she for sure tried to please in general, so I feel like that's just as good as I could've gotten out of her. I would've preferred more passion in that regard, but it does remind me of my youth and inexperience, which kinds of makes it sweet.

There's one thing that people reported on the local forums, but I can't quite recall seeing in here: she has a distinct bitter smell on her once she starts going, the kind you associate with nervousness, even if she doesn't show it. It's not a problem for me, but I believe it's something people should be aware of. Thinking about it now, I kind of wish I tried to lick it off her, which is a first for me as I'm not at all into kinks.

After helping me finish she came back to me to cuddle and stayed with me well over the agreed period just talking, laughing, sharing stuff with me, and just in general being a sweetheart. This, on top of being able to discern genuine compliments, makes me want to become her regular.[/QUOTE]A couple of months back she replied to me she was no longer working. Thank you for sharing your XP, I'm on my way to Lisbon and will reach out to her hoping I can meet her. Fingers crossed!

I think dwelling on this photoshopping nothingburger is taking up too much space, so I'm going to drop out after this. My point in engaging was to point to the most salient issue: if you aren't familiar with the Portuguese scene, you should know that verified photoshoot is verified for when it was taken, which may have been a long time ago. So, it helps to ask how up to date it is. Some of us will remember.

As for the rest, well, the girls are paying to put their best look out there. Do you think Emily Ratajkowski looks like that on the street? Of course they do their hair and makeup; of course they have lighting (that is a matter of the photographer's kit and skill); of course the photos are touched up some. Duh.

Complaining about all that, well, I can only ask the (rhetorical) question: would you prefer no photo verification at all? If you think you get rude surprises with that feature, well, go on looking that gift horse in the mouth, by all means.

I've backed away from Escort Privada altogether for two reasons:

200/ h.

And half their roster is now made up of girls who have changed their working name three times or more. Not all of those are bad actors, but keeping track of the baddies under these circumstances has become tiresome. Calling a seemingly new girl is like shooting dice nowadays.

[QUOTE=NoTimezone;2902507]For third time now? That doesn't inspire confidence, but thanks for letting me know.[/QUOTE]

This will also be my last post on 'photoshopping' but not because I think it's a "nothingburger" or an insignificant topic; it's more because I'm debating with people who don't understand what 'photoshopping' means despite it being a widely used term. Moreover, the rationale displayed in some of the arguments below seems to lack basic common sense, to put it mildly.

It's one thing doing make-up, using lighting or the photos being "touched up some". It's another thing entirely when for example, you blow up a small pair of breasts and a flat ass and shine a bright light on it. Taken from the oxford dictionary, photoshopping is 'altering an image especially in a way that distorts reality as for deliberately deceptive purposes'. A bit different to being "touched up some". Duh.

As for the most important point being whether a site is verified, well that clearly isn't the most important point as photo verified sites can also paint horribly distorted images (as we're debating). Duh.

Finally, the suggestion that we should be grateful if a site is photo-verified, and shouldn't complain even if we believe pictures are distorted, is utterly bizarre. Again it's not about whether a site is photo-verified, instead it's about the reality of the pictures displayed (photo-verified or not). If we believe they are heavily distorted, we've every right to complain.

The logic used in this photoshopping debate reminds of a discussion last year on incall rates where we named 3 or 4 ladies who charged the rate we were trying to justify, and said "that's the going rate because X, Y and Z charge it". Never mind the dozens of girls who don't charge that rate and the fact that almost every recent report on the local board also indicated different rates. Indeed, we initially used this same logic earlier to justify why we believe a particular site doesn't photoshop. Duh.

I checked in with Aurora Vaz. I approached by asking if her rate was still 150/ h, and she said yes. But then she tried to nickel and dime me in other ways. I asked about doing 90 minutes, and she wanted her 30 minute rate (100) + her hour rate (150/ h) instead of 150% of the hour rate (250 vs 225). I really don't like that stunt. Some ladies in Lisbon do that normally, but not many, and it's a pretty stupid tactic. And then she asked for +50 because I asked her to wear something, which most ladies would take as simply good service.

It's a shame she is being so mercenary. Oh well -- her loss.

So, if you go this way, just ask about the 150 upfront. Do it in Portuguese (use translate if you must), and stick to the basic one hour. Mercenary or not, she is still a Portuguese (not Brasilian), very hot spinner in her late 30s, and ahe is very good in bed.

Had a good experience at Wayang. It is not for everyone. I appreciated the vibe of the place and the attractive provider and her skills at therapeutic as well as erotic massage. HJ finish, but I wasn't looking for FS. Went for full nude option, mutual touching (no penetration), two pops, 60 minutes, $$.5. A bit spendy but it was what I was looking for. Safe, clean, nice environment including shower. I only had two providers to choose from, but both were Europeans and very attractive. Most of my experience is with AMPS for half the price in the us, and this was much, much better than those.

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2902950]I checked in with Aurora Vaz. I approached by asking if her rate was still 150/ h, and she said yes. But then she tried to nickel and dime me in other ways. I asked about doing 90 minutes, and she wanted her 30 minute rate (100) + her hour rate (150/ h) instead of 150% of the hour rate (250 vs 225). I really don't like that stunt. Some ladies in Lisbon do that normally, but not many, and it's a pretty stupid tactic. And then she asked for +50 because I asked her to wear something, which most ladies would take as simply good service.

It's a shame she is being so mercenary. Oh well -- her loss.

So, if you go this way, just ask about the 150 upfront. Do it in Portuguese (use translate if you must), and stick to the basic one hour. Mercenary or not, she is still a Portuguese (not Brasilian), very hot spinner in her late 30s, and ahe is very good in bed.[/QUOTE]I dislike the drip pricing because it is dishonest and shows a girl is focused on short term money. If she is average, I would pass. If she has potential, I try to explain that she will make more with reliable, repeat clients. Smart girls understand that. Girls who are only interested in one session are seldom good.

I met with Rebecca while in Lisbon. I had a great time with Rebecca. She lives up to the hype and her other positives reviews here and on the local site. Easy incall setup in central part of town at 150/ HR includes just about everything. Rebecca has a good body and is a true service queen with DFK, BBBJ, DATY, CFS, and A level all done enthusiastically and with great skill. On top of the service Rebecca is nice and easy to talk with when catching your breath after doing the deed. I would definitely see her again.

Thank you Rebecca! Take care until next time.

Yes, the nuru massage scene of Lisbon is generally superior to the AMP scene in the US, and there are many options outside of Wayang offering prices that are comparable or cheaper than the US as well.

Do you want some recommendations?

[QUOTE=SnarkHunter;2902986]Had a good experience at Wayang. It is not for everyone. I appreciated the vibe of the place and the attractive provider and her skills at therapeutic as well as erotic massage. HJ finish, but I wasn't looking for FS. Went for full nude option, mutual touching (no penetration), two pops, 60 minutes, $$.5. A bit spendy but it was what I was looking for. Safe, clean, nice environment including shower. I only had two providers to choose from, but both were Europeans and very attractive. Most of my experience is with AMPS for half the price in the us, and this was much, much better than those.[/QUOTE]

I know her, so I know the service is good. Recent local reports concur. As for what her angle is in being so greedy, I can't explain that. What I will tell you is that she was on my list for a return visit and lack of time is the main reason she got pushed off it. The nickel and diming was part of it, but secondary.

[QUOTE=Akibono;2903039]I dislike the drip pricing because it is dishonest and shows a girl is focused on short term money. If she is average, I would pass. If she has potential, I try to explain that she will make more with reliable, repeat clients. Smart girls understand that. Girls who are only interested in one session are seldom good.[/QUOTE]

Not surprising you had a great time with her. She got four 10/10 reviews on the local board within a few weeks of coming onto the scene and the 9's and 10's continued frequently despite the moderators sometimes discouraging reviews as she doesn't have an active ad most of the time.

She actually has an active ad at the moment. It probably won't be there for long, so for those who want an idea of what she looks like, have a look:

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-rebeca-diniz-6364[/URL]

[QUOTE=TigerMuskie;2903069]I met with Rebecca while in Lisbon. I had a great time with Rebecca. She lives up to the hype and her other positives reviews here and on the local site. Easy incall setup in central part of town at 150/ HR includes just about everything. Rebecca has a good body and is a true service queen with DFK, BBBJ, DATY, CFS, and A level all done enthusiastically and with great skill. On top of the service Rebecca is nice and easy to talk with when catching your breath after doing the deed. I would definitely see her again.

Thank you Rebecca! Take care until next time.[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure who was the first to recommend Isis, maybe it was ExExpatriate? Anyway I'm here to say Thanks, that is a great recommendation!

I was lucky enough to return to Lisbon for 48 hours. I've contacted both Isis and Angel from my last post before I got on the plane, and I was lucky again because this time Angel didn't reply but Isis did.

[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1188-isis-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL]

We arranged everything via Whatsapp, super easy and fast. I arrived to her place which is a little drive from the tourist area of town. She buzzed me in and the moment I saw her smile I knew I was in good hands. 10 minutes later, we where both sitting naked on the bad, I saw her breast and I knew I have struck gold! She has an amazing body, wow! The session itself, well I would say it is far more professional than any other body2 body / nuru / tantra I ever had. It is more sensual and less sexual. I mean, there is that sexual part, and ohh boy so help me god was is sexual. But she is not the kind of massagista that lets you lead the way. She has an amazing plan of action, that plan includes her massaging your entire body and the highlight is an amazing TF until the happy end.

A full hour costs 150 euro, which is quite a lot for an hour that doesn't even include OWO or FS. But it's worth it! I was out in the streets an hour later, smiling at strangers. I will probably come back, just have to find another excuse to return to Lisbon.

Glad to be of some small service.

[QUOTE=DBoznach;2903345]I'm not sure who was the first to recommend Isis, maybe it was ExExpatriate? Anyway I'm here to say Thanks, that is a great recommendation!

I was lucky enough to return to Lisbon for 48 hours. I've contacted both Isis and Angel from my last post before I got on the plane, and I was lucky again because this time Angel didn't reply but Isis did.

[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1188-isis-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL]

We arranged everything via Whatsapp, super easy and fast. I arrived to her place which is a little drive from the tourist area of town. She buzzed me in and the moment I saw her smile I knew I was in good hands. 10 minutes later, we where both sitting naked on the bad, I saw her breast and I knew I have struck gold! She has an amazing body, wow! The session itself, well I would say it is far more professional than any other body2 body / nuru / tantra I ever had. It is more sensual and less sexual. I mean, there is that sexual part, and ohh boy so help me god was is sexual. But she is not the kind of massagista that lets you lead the way. She has an amazing plan of action, that plan includes her massaging your entire body and the highlight is an amazing TF until the happy end.

A full hour costs 150 euro, which is quite a lot for an hour that doesn't even include OWO or FS. But it's worth it! I was out in the streets an hour later, smiling at strangers. I will probably come back, just have to find another excuse to return to Lisbon.[/QUOTE]

For future reference do working girls in Portugal respond to foreign numbers?

[QUOTE=Harry1217;2903291]Not surprising you had a great time with her. She got four 10/10 reviews on the local board within a few weeks of coming onto the scene and the 9's and 10's continued frequently despite the moderators sometimes discouraging reviews as she doesn't have an active ad most of the time.

She actually has an active ad at the moment. It probably won't be there for long, so for those who want an idea of what she looks like, have a look:

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-rebeca-diniz-6364[/URL][/QUOTE]Is she mixed?

Yes. Messaging by Whatsapp is the norm. The main issue is not whether the number is foreign, but if it is blocking caller ID. Almost no one answers a message from a phone that blocks ID. Their safety.

[QUOTE=BaltiX;2903621]For future reference do working girls in Portugal respond to foreign numbers?

Is she mixed?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BaltiX;2903621]For future reference do working girls in Portugal respond to foreign numbers?

Is she mixed?[/QUOTE]Rebecca Diniz is a "light-skinned" Black lady with some North African family heritage.

There is probably a Caucasian ancestor or two somewhere in the family tree.

I think she is "from" Portugal rather than a recent immigrant.

Somewhere along the way she became fluent in Portuguese and English, which is indicative of being in Portugal from birth or from a young age.

Portugal is a melting pot. In the really old days, many Jews settled there, and it had later significant immigration from Northern Africa and Brazil.

So a lot of the ladies are "mixed" in some manner.

Hi All,

Thank you all for the great information found in this thread. I went back 22 pages and gathered a list of girls I want to visit while I am in Lisbon next week! A few questions I have that I was hoping I could get answered before I get there.

1. Are there any full service "clubs"? Like where you can visit and select from a selection of girls walking around and go to a room. I am familiar with Tijuana and Thailand and this may be the best experience for me as I will be limited on time and when I can or cannot schedule a date (traveling with friends).

2. Outcall is not an option for me. Has anyone ever had luck having an outcall only girl such as Vivian Miller do in calls?

3. Is NuruSpa a full service spa? Based off this thread it seems like it, and that I would have to ask for a relaxing massage. What is the cost for this?

4. how quick do girls typically respond? As I mentioned, I'll only have a few windows of opportunity and would need something scheduled within the hour once I start messaging. Also, does anyone know of any verified girls that stay near Alfama area?

5. Lastly, for sites such as portalprivado and apartadox. Is it safe to assume that since these women are photo verified that they are legit? How can I read their reviews? There are so many to choose from!

Thanks and much appreciated. I will leave a final report after I leave Lisbon.

[QUOTE=GymJunkieee;2904091]Hi All,

Thank you all for the great information found in this thread. I went back 22 pages and gathered a list of girls I want to visit while I am in Lisbon next week! A few questions I have that I was hoping I could get answered before I get there.

1. Are there any full service "clubs"? Like where you can visit and select from a selection of girls walking around and go to a room. I am familiar with Tijuana and Thailand and this may be the best experience for me as I will be limited on time and when I can or cannot schedule a date (traveling with friends).

2. Outcall is not an option for me. Has anyone ever had luck having an outcall only girl such as Vivian Miller do in calls?

3. Is NuruSpa a full service spa? Based off this thread it seems like it, and that I would have to ask for a relaxing massage. What is the cost for this?

4. how quick do girls typically respond? As I mentioned, I'll only have a few windows of opportunity and would need something scheduled within the hour once I start messaging. Also, does anyone know of any verified girls that stay near Alfama area?

5. Lastly, for sites such as portalprivado and apartadox. Is it safe to assume that since these women are photo verified that they are legit? How can I read their reviews? There are so many to choose from!

Thanks and much appreciated. I will leave a final report after I leave Lisbon.[/QUOTE]1. No full service clubs outside a couple of clip-joints as far as I know. That's why Lisbon is such a poor mongering venue compared to say Frankfurt.

3. I paid 2 visits to massage places in the Picoas district. Didn 't like it at all. Cooking oil charade. Not my cup of tea. However the "mamasan" talked to me before I left and insisted if there was anything special I desired I only needed to talk. The problem might be that massage girl on average were less hot than girls advertising online.

4. When do you need a girl? I need sex in early afternoon at the latest. That's why Lisbon was a disaster for me. 95% of girls get going as of 5 pm. Alfama is a 100% tourist area. The downtown districts with mongering venues are Picoas, Saldanha, Campo pequeno, Entrecampos. The Lisbon underground (metro) is your friend.

5. Those girls are legit but the pictures don't say much about how hot a girl really is once she is naked in your room. There are reviews in the local forum but not that many. That forum is hell to navigate. I didn't get much out of it in spite of being proficient in Portuguese.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4neYSd9rKE

Portugal is not like Tijuana or Thailand. Although there are some upscale pick-up clubs, they are more expensive than escorts and there are few, if any, love motels near the clubs. So you take the lady back to your own hotel, putting you in no different of a situation than getting outcall. Prostitution is legal in Portugal, but the elements of it are illegal, which makes it very difficult for a club to operate and essentially offer sex in the facility.

You can get a relatively lower-cost hotel room away from your friends and have an escort like Vivian Miller domoutcall to your secret little hotel room. But the EP ladies won't get the room for you. The non-EP ladies have their own incall rooms.

The majority of posters going to the Nuru Spa and asking for the Relaxing Massage report getting full service. But there are no guaranties. You will get something erotic if you happen to get a lady who doesn't do full service, but you will probably get full service. You could consider contacting them and asking the price for the Relaxing Massage and / or the Fetish Massage. No guaranties that there couldn't be an upsell, but reports haven't indicated that upselling is prevalent there.

[URL]https://www.nuruspas.com/en/contacto[/URL]

Response time varies from lady to lady. Well thought of Ines Vaz has been reported as responding nicely to last minute incall bookings.

[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]

You should be able to make a nice list of recommended ladies from the last 20-30 pages here on ISG. That is your best insurance against too much photoshopping.

[QUOTE=GymJunkieee;2904091]Hi All,

Thank you all for the great information found in this thread. I went back 22 pages and gathered a list of girls I want to visit while I am in Lisbon next week! A few questions I have that I was hoping I could get answered before I get there.

1. Are there any full service "clubs"? Like where you can visit and select from a selection of girls walking around and go to a room. I am familiar with Tijuana and Thailand and this may be the best experience for me as I will be limited on time and when I can or cannot schedule a date (traveling with friends).

2. Outcall is not an option for me. Has anyone ever had luck having an outcall only girl such as Vivian Miller do in calls?

3. Is NuruSpa a full service spa? Based off this thread it seems like it, and that I would have to ask for a relaxing massage. What is the cost for this?

4. how quick do girls typically respond? As I mentioned, I'll only have a few windows of opportunity and would need something scheduled within the hour once I start messaging. Also, does anyone know of any verified girls that stay near Alfama area?

5. Lastly, for sites such as portalprivado and apartadox. Is it safe to assume that since these women are photo verified that they are legit? How can I read their reviews? There are so many to choose from!

Thanks and much appreciated. I will leave a final report after I leave Lisbon.[/QUOTE]

Portugal is what it is.

Most of us try to be honest about that from the outset.

Portugal is a First World country with Second World pricing.

It isn't a Third World country with Third World women anxiously and sometimes desperately awaiting the arrival of a customer to make her needed quota for the day. Nor is it a First World country like Germany that imports its sex work labor from the Third World (maybe I should say Second World labor since Romania is in Europe) and has fully legal incall.

Most of the sex workers in Portugal do this part time. And there is less immigration compared to Spain of foreign ladies from the poorest countries in Central and South America like Venezuela and Colombia. Most of the immigrants to Portugal are from Brazil and Northern Africa, and do sex work part time like their Portuguese-born sisters.

There is almost zero Asian scene in Portugal, so "erotic massage" doesn't equal full-service sex for every lady at an erotic massage parlor. It does for some if them, but because it is illegal in Lisbon for a massage parlor to advertise sex, you can't go in guns blazing and demand it, especially outside of the massage room.

The service level in Portugal is high, and the prices are lower or comparable, compared to other countries in Western Europe. But no, it isn't a good sex with no appointment, or sex within an hour, destination. That is true even for local Johns. On the local board, the sessions with the independents and outcall EP ladies are scheduled in advance, usually more than an hour or two before the session.

All negatives aside, the Lisbon ladies do respond to messages and do keep appointments that are made, and they welcome foreign tourists. There are plenty of destinations where that is not the case. And women are equals and can go to a hotel and take the elevator all the way up to your room unmolested, unlike many of the Second and Third World countries. The First World ain't all bad.

[QUOTE=XXL;2904157]1. No full service clubs outside a couple of clip-joints as far as I know. That's why Lisbon is such a poor mongering venue compared to say Frankfurt.

3. I paid 2 visits to massage places in the Picoas district. Didn 't like it at all. Cooking oil charade. Not my cup of tea. However the "mamasan" talked to me before I left and insisted if there was anything special I desired I only needed to talk. The problem might be that massage girl on average were less hot than girls advertising online.

4. When do you need a girl? I need sex in early afternoon at the latest. That's why Lisbon was a disaster for me. 95% of girls get going as of 5 pm. Alfama is a 100% tourist area. The downtown districts with mongering venues are Picoas, Saldanha, Campo pequeno, Entrecampos. The Lisbon underground (metro) is your friend.

5. Those girls are legit but the pictures don't say much about how hot a girl really is once she is naked in your room. There are reviews in the local forum but not that many. That forum is hell to navigate. I didn't get much out of it in spite of being proficient in Portuguese.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4neYSd9rKE[/QUOTE]

Dear Mongerer88,

I have been regularly visiting Lisbon (and Barcelona) since 1996. I completely agree with you, even though the scene in Lisbon was significantly different and much better until around 2004-2005. There were many independent and young girls available before, and the costs were incomparably lower back then. However, I still believe Lisbon offers the best ratio between quality and costs in Europe, at least in the western part. I think only Barcelona could compete with Lisbon at the moment, but it is my second option.

For example, Lila, a South African girl that I met many times between 2018 and 2019, thanks to the suggestions of Mongerer88, provided me with an unforgettable experience. I am still searching for a girl like Lila. I will try with Rebecca Diniz in a few weeks. I will inform you.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2904222]Portugal is what it is.

Most of us try to be honest about that from the outset.

Portugal is a First World country with Second World pricing.

It isn't a Third World country with Third World women anxiously and sometimes desperately awaiting the arrival of a customer to make her needed quota for the day. Nor is it a First World country like Germany that imports its sex work labor from the Third World (maybe I should say Second World labor since Romania is in Europe) and has fully legal incall.

Most of the sex workers in Portugal do this part time. And there is less immigration compared to Spain of foreign ladies from the poorest countries in Central and South America like Venezuela and Colombia. Most of the immigrants to Portugal are from Brazil and Northern Africa, and do sex work part time like their Portuguese-born sisters.

There is almost zero Asian scene in Portugal, so "erotic massage" doesn't equal full-service sex for every lady at an erotic massage parlor. It does for some if them, but because it is illegal in Lisbon for a massage parlor to advertise sex, you can't go in guns blazing and demand it, especially outside of the massage room..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Emeli67;2904268]Dear Mongerer88,

I have been regularly visiting Lisbon (and Barcelona) since 1996. I completely agree with you, even though the scene in Lisbon was significantly different and much better until around 2004-2005. There were many independent and young girls available before, and the costs were incomparably lower back then. However, I still believe Lisbon offers the best ratio between quality and costs in Europe, at least in the western part. I think only Barcelona could compete with Lisbon at the moment, but it is my second option.

For example, Lila, a South African girl that I met many times between 2018 and 2019, thanks to the suggestions of Mongerer88, provided me with an unforgettable experience. I am still searching for a girl like Lila. I will try with Rebecca Diniz in a few weeks. I will inform you.[/QUOTE]Thank you XXL, Monger88 for your detailed responses.

I have a short list of incall girls I'm going to contact as soon as I land and set something up. Thank you for your advice on Inez. She was on my list and is going to be a solid backup in case I do not get a response. I am hoping I can schedule something for early morning or afternoon if possible so I will reach out and see if that's possible with a few.

Is it normal to have MSOG (at least two rounds) during the hour service?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=GymJunkieee;2904575]Thank you XXL, Monger88 for your detailed responses.

I have a short list of incall girls I'm going to contact as soon as I land and set something up. Thank you for your advice on Inez. She was on my list and is going to be a solid backup in case I do not get a response. I am hoping I can schedule something for early morning or afternoon if possible so I will reach out and see if that's possible with a few.

Is it normal to have MSOG (at least two rounds) during the hour service?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]For the highly rated independents and the most recommended EP ladies, yes they spend the full hour and it is fine if you come twice.

We try to identify and exclude from recommended lists the ladies who don't spend the full hour. Unfortunately, that is the norm among the Do Not See EP ladies.

Don't expect MSOG if you only book 30 minutes. It is customary to get two shots ("opportunities" in local slang) for an hour, but you should clearly state that you want that when making the booking. Customary doesn't mean everyone offers it. Also, that doesn't mean the lady is going to let you start your second go in the last five minutes.

During my last trip, I had two ho-hum and one decent outing for my first forays, but in the middle I unexpectedly had many fires to put out and lost a good bit of playtime. So I decided to use what little time I had left after that to stick with ladies who were already well-known to me. I've written about them before and have nothing to add.

[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2883486]"There are still some excellent providers around asking 120/ h". That's what is important not to forget. And I mean excelent. And, in some cases, even less than that and still excellent. And I mean excelent.

But if you refuse to see beyond the EP horizon, things will get more difficult, that's for sure.[/QUOTE]Sounds good. I am going to try and meet with Rebecca Diniz, Eller Rocha, Lunna Cardoza or Amanda Marquez. The thing is, I speak very little to zero Portuguese and Spanish. I'm trying to avoid the tourist tax, is it safe to use Google translate and ask if they speak any English? It's not mandatory but I usually like to speak a bit between rounds instead of making it awkward if that makes sense.

[QUOTE=GymJunkieee;2905097]Sounds good. I am going to try and meet with Rebecca Diniz, Eller Rocha, Lunna Cardoza or Amanda Marquez. The thing is, I speak very little to zero Portuguese and Spanish. I'm trying to avoid the tourist tax, is it safe to use Google translate and ask if they speak any English? It's not mandatory but I usually like to speak a bit between rounds instead of making it awkward if that makes sense.[/QUOTE]I saw Rebecca and Amanda recently. They won't tax you. When you contact them by WhatsApp they have an auto-reply message giving you info on their services including price in both Portuguese and English. Rebecca speaks good English. Amanda after meeting, I switched to Spanish as her English is basic. They are both nice ladies and should treat you right. I wanted to meet with Eller but didn't have time. Interested in a report out if you meet her.

So, I was on vacation in Lisbon, and met with three incall escorts not from Brazil who responded to my message. Not that I have anything against Brazilian girls, but we have them in Porto as well, I wanted some diversity. The prices are quite a bit higher though (200 euro minimum, but this is the capital, and I hear that this is becoming the new average). Still, I was on vacation, and wanted to have some fun.

This time, I used [URL]eurogirlsescort.com[/URL], because ApartadoX didn't have anyone who caught my eye. Thankfully, using the filter to display only verified accounts makes it less of a gamble, and I didn't get fake photos (this time, but it has certainly happened before, use this site with caution).

Anyway, first I found Natasha from Ukraine ([URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/natasha/683573[/URL]). We agreed to meet in the evening (looks like she has a regular job), I went to an apartment where she rented a room just for such work, and we had some fun. The photos are real, she even sent me pictures with her face visible. Nothing special to report here, the girl has great body, is pretty good at and seems to enjoy what she does. It looks more like a hobby to her.

The interesting part came the next day. I wrote to Nataree from Korea ([URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/nataree/519122[/URL]). This was my first time with an Asian girl, so I was glad she responded. Imagine my surprise when she directed me to the same address. At first I thought maybe it was a different apartment, but it turned out to be the exact same building, floor, apartment, and even room. I guess they rent it for specific hours, I don't know. So I met two different escorts in the same room and we did it on the same bed. What are the odds, right? As for Nataree, her photos are accurate as well, I enjoyed my time with her just a little bit more.

And my third time was also with an Asian, Juice ([URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/juice/348814[/URL]). It was a little better, because she had several reviews ([URL]https://gp-pt.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=194&t=70398[/URL]), and at least I knew she was real. I really enjoyed my time with this one, she also seemed to be pleased. Her apartment is pretty cool as well, although a little out of the way.

In general, I would say this vacation was a success, I would certainly visit the same girls again next time I'm in Lisbon.

One of the reasons I discourage the use of Euroescortgirls, MassageRepublic and other internationalized sites is that some of the ladies who are listed on the local-only sources will mark up their prices to whatever the going rate is, and the going rate on the internationalized sites is higher.

The Korean girl is an example. I know she is on local-only ads -- that stupid face filter she uses is unmistakable -- She's been reviewed on the local board too, and she isn't asking 200/ h in those reviews. I am not going to dig it all up, because East Asian isn't my type and I don't remember where to find the links offhand. But I do remember reading all about her.

So, be aware. Some of the ladies use both the international and local ad sites and set the same price (120-150) on both. Eller Rocha is a good example. Some mark up for international sites, hoping to levy the tourist tax on you. And some are only on the international sites and mark up period, presumably because they don't want to work as much, but make more per session?

And always remember that higher prices don't always translate into services that are worth it.

I'm glad it worked out for you, and if you are happy with what you got at the price paid, that is all that matters. But for others, I'd advise them to proceed differently.

[QUOTE=Mandibles;2905519]So, I was on vacation in Lisbon, and met with three incall escorts not from Brazil who responded to my message. Not that I have anything against Brazilian girls, but we have them in Porto as well, I wanted some diversity. The prices are quite a bit higher though (200 euro minimum, but this is the capital, and I hear that this is becoming the new average). Still, I was on vacation, and wanted to have some fun.

This time, I used [URL]eurogirlsescort.com[/URL], because ApartadoX didn't have anyone who caught my eye. Thankfully, using the filter to display only verified accounts makes it less of a gamble, and I didn't get fake photos (this time, but it has certainly happened before, use this site with caution).

Anyway, first I found Natasha from Ukraine ([URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/natasha/683573[/URL]). We agreed to meet in the evening (looks like she has a regular job), I went to an apartment where she rented a room just for such work, and we had some fun. The photos are real, she even sent me pictures with her face visible. Nothing special to report here, the girl has great body, is pretty good at and seems to enjoy what she does. It looks more like a hobby to her.

The interesting part came the next day. I wrote to Nataree from Korea ([URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/nataree/519122[/URL]). This was my first time with an Asian girl, so I was glad she responded. Imagine my surprise when she directed me to the same address. At first I thought maybe it was a different apartment, but it turned out to be the exact same building, floor, apartment, and even room. I guess they rent it for specific hours, I don't know. So I met two different escorts in the same room and we did it on the same bed. What are the odds, right? As for Nataree, her photos are accurate as well, I enjoyed my time with her just a little bit more.

And my third time was also with an Asian, Juice ([URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/juice/348814[/URL]). It was a little better, because she had several reviews ([URL]https://gp-pt.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=194&t=70398[/URL]), and at least I knew she was real. I really enjoyed my time with this one, she also seemed to be pleased. Her apartment is pretty cool as well, although a little out of the way.

In general, I would say this vacation was a success, I would certainly visit the same girls again next time I'm in Lisbon.[/QUOTE]

Hi fellow mongers.

Looking for esrly birds, 7 am-9 am appointments.

Since rest of day is filled with other activities.

Have nit found a way to figure this out directly from the ad.

Any info is much appreciated.

// Svenne.

That is a tough one, and I strongly doubt you'll get anyone to meet you at 7 or 8, but maybe 9 will work for you in some cases. The problem that I've run into and will probably snag you here is that plenty of incall ladies advertise they start at 11 or 12, but then you ask about starting at that time and they'll ask for something later. It's not because they have an appointment either, but because they don't actually start that early half the time.

But, there are two ladies with good or very good reputations that actually say they start at 9. I suggest starting with them.

Isabela Venturi.

[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes/acompanhantes-lisboa/acompanhante-isabela-venturi[/URL]

Natalia Brandt.

[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/natalia-brandt/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-natalia-brandt-4789[/URL]

These others also have good or very good reputations, and advertise as "24 hours a day," so maybe they will accommodate you:

Eller Rocha.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-eller-rocha-4428[/URL]

Bella Azevedo.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-bella-azevedo-7142[/URL]

Andressa Braga.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-andressa-braga-5456[/URL]

Clara PT.

[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/clara-portuguesa/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Svenne69;2905985]Hi fellow mongers.

Looking for esrly birds, 7 am-9 am appointments.

Since rest of day is filled with other activities.

Have nit found a way to figure this out directly from the ad.

Any info is much appreciated.

// Svenne.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Svenne69;2905985]Hi fellow mongers.

Looking for esrly birds, 7 am-9 am appointments.

Since rest of day is filled with other activities.

Have nit found a way to figure this out directly from the ad.

Any info is much appreciated.

// Svenne.[/QUOTE]Not a cat in hell's chance IMO. Even getting a girl in early afternoon is difficult. Girls who advertise "24/7" have "middle of the night" in mind.

Some folks only come onto a forum to hate on a place that isn't a sex slavery market. Others only want to troll and argue.

The one thing I would NEVER tell someone who needs an appointment to start before 9 am is to not try. Because the worst that could happen is you wind up at zero, and that is what would happen anyway without trying. What do you have to lose? It's a long shot, but there aren't deposits or any of that BS at stake.

Whose advice do you want to take?

Hi everyone,

This thread is amazing, thanks a lot for all your great reviews.

I'm going in Lisbon in a few weeks and have looked at much of the posts here, from what I understood Ines Vaz is a must-see when looking for a FS massage.

I'll probably have time to see another girl and I was wondering if anyone had info on these ones below, as I don't recall seeing their names in this thread:

[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1329-carol-rios-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL] : she'll be near my hotel and the 200€ massage seems promising but I'm wondering if anyone had seen her.

[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1500-alice-d-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL] : haven't seen anything for Delirio.

[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1309-erika-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL]

Thanks a lot for your feedbacks.

Unless something changed, Genuine Tantric and Delirio Spa are both HJ-only houses. So if you want more service, go elsewhere.

And I think if someone is asking 200 e for a one hour incall session of any description, that is too much.

If you are looking for another massagista who does FS, have you considered Emily Carter?

[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/emily-carter/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes/acompanhantes-lisboa/acompanhante-emily-carter[/URL]

[QUOTE=Alaucan;2906457]Hi everyone,

This thread is amazing, thanks a lot for all your great reviews.

I'm going in Lisbon in a few weeks and have looked at much of the posts here, from what I understood Ines Vaz is a must-see when looking for a FS massage.

I'll probably have time to see another girl and I was wondering if anyone had info on these ones below, as I don't recall seeing their names in this thread:

[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1329-carol-rios-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL] : she'll be near my hotel and the 200 massage seems promising but I'm wondering if anyone had seen her.

[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1500-alice-d-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL] : haven't seen anything for Delirio.

[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1309-erika-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL]

Thanks a lot for your feedbacks.[/QUOTE]

I was also interested in booking an encounter with Inês but after checking out her profile on Whatsapp, she says that she does not offer sex and is only available for massage related services, such as Nuru, Tantric, Lingam and Erotic, which took me by surprise considering that someone mentioned a recent review on the American board which mentioned she offered full service.

[QUOTE=RobotoVoice;2906650]I was also interested in booking an encounter with Ins but after checking out her profile on Whatsapp, she says that she does not offer sex and is only available for massage related services, such as Nuru, Tantric, Lingam and Erotic, which took me by surprise considering that someone mentioned a recent review on the American board which mentioned she offered full service.[/QUOTE]That is a brand new message that appeared last Wednesday.

Lisbon ladies live in the moment and their primary customer base is local guys.

They may not realize that foreigners look at their profiles for trips well into the future.

So it is unknown if this is a long-term change in service offerings, or was literally intended to inform customers booking with her that day, or for the few days after that, of the non-availability of full service due to the obvious occasional physical reason (s) that full service is not always available with women.

[QUOTE=RobotoVoice;2906650]I was also interested in booking an encounter with Ins but after checking out her profile on Whatsapp, she says that she does not offer sex and is only available for massage related services, such as Nuru, Tantric, Lingam and Erotic, which took me by surprise considering that someone mentioned a recent review on the American board which mentioned she offered full service.[/QUOTE]That's just a placeholder. Message her and she'll respond with the actual information, or just visit links in the bio that still offer FS.

Every woman simply has days in the month where she cannot have vaginal sex. It's that simple and also answers why Inês Vaz only offered massage for a few days.

Otherwise, I can only warmly recommend Inês Vaz. The massage she offers with all the extras is, in my opinion, unique and authentic for Lisbon. You will always leave the room happy.

I have visited Inês Vaz a few times and have never regretted it! Just recently I had 120 minutes of great happiness with her friend. I can only recommend this experience.

[URL]https://www.classificadosx.net/pt/anuncio/166-massagens-lisboa/404205-ines-vaz-massagens-sensuais[/URL]

I'm going to be visiting Lisbon next month. Hoping to arrange at least a couple of outcalls from Escort Privada.

Thanks to this very useful thread and information elsewhere I have a few potentials in mind. Ins Pires, Lisa Mendes, Victria Saraiva, Viviane Miler and Sara Valente are the main ones who have caught my eye. I only expect to be able to arrange 2 or 3 outcalls at most in the time I am there.

My question is typically how far in advance should one try and schedule a booking with the ladies? I am hoping to do evening outcalls (6 pm to 11 pm sort of timeframe).

Would messaging early the same day be the best course of action or do they typically require a few days notice?

[QUOTE=OrangePenguin;2907090]I'm going to be visiting Lisbon next month. Hoping to arrange at least a couple of outcalls from Escort Privada.

Thanks to this very useful thread and information elsewhere I have a few potentials in mind. Ins Pires, Lisa Mendes, Victria Saraiva, Viviane Miler and Sara Valente are the main ones who have caught my eye. I only expect to be able to arrange 2 or 3 outcalls at most in the time I am there.

My question is typically how far in advance should one try and schedule a booking with the ladies? I am hoping to do evening outcalls (6 pm to 11 pm sort of timeframe).

Would messaging early the same day be the best course of action or do they typically require a few days notice?[/QUOTE]Either way is fine. They will accept appointment requests about a week before the time and date you want, but the farther in advance you book, the more likely they will contact you that she cancelled and offer you alternatives. Usually a day or two before greatly reduces the cancellation rate, and booking the morning of (for that evening) reduces the cancellation rate even more. So try a day or two before, but it is okay to do the morning of (especially if you have multiple ladies on your list).

I suggest making a booking the day before.

I've never had any escort in Lisbon refuse a booking one day in advance, but some won't do more than that. Also, having that booking is not a guarantee of an appointment, because they could always cancel at the last moment. Girls do outcall-only because of the part-time nature and flexibility, but they'll always know what they can and cannot do the next day.

[QUOTE=OrangePenguin;2907090]I'm going to be visiting Lisbon next month. Hoping to arrange at least a couple of outcalls from Escort Privada.

Thanks to this very useful thread and information elsewhere I have a few potentials in mind. Ins Pires, Lisa Mendes, Victria Saraiva, Viviane Miler and Sara Valente are the main ones who have caught my eye. I only expect to be able to arrange 2 or 3 outcalls at most in the time I am there.

My question is typically how far in advance should one try and schedule a booking with the ladies? I am hoping to do evening outcalls (6 pm to 11 pm sort of timeframe).

Would messaging early the same day be the best course of action or do they typically require a few days notice?[/QUOTE]

Cheers guys.

May I ask you I would like to travel to Lisbon and I am specially interested in gfs and French kiss. Is it common practice for local girls or in general that this service will be offered more likely?

It was always my dream to visit this country because I am into Latina ladies.

Kind regards.

Be.

It's common enough. This is something you can ask about -- "I like kissing, are you a kisser?" Most ladies who don't will tell you so.

The main thing is how much of a kisser. Eller Rocha, for example, kisses some and uses her tongue, but in a light and darting kind of way. Flora Neves was the same way. When I went to see Luna Cardoso recently, she was kissing me all over, tongue in my ear, and very enthusiastic -- "laying flounders on me" in local slang. And some will say yes, give you a few pecks, and consider that part satisfied.

Of course, if you eat an onion and tomato salad or sardines and garlic and show up with that breath, all bets are off. Even the ladies who smoke themselves probably don't want to smooch on someone who smells and tastes like an ashtray.

So kissing is pretty common. I think you can rely on the firm non-kissers to tell you that it's not a service they offer. But that service exists on a spectrum, and varies from lady to lady.

[QUOTE=BadGoodTime;2908104]Cheers guys.

May I ask you I would like to travel to Lisbon and I am specially interested in gfs and French kiss. Is it common practice for local girls or in general that this service will be offered more likely?

It was always my dream to visit this country because I am into Latina ladies.

Kind regards.

Be.[/QUOTE]

Thanks Mongerer88 and ExExpatriate for your replies to my query. I will try booking the day before and see how that goes. Hopefully I can meet at least a couple of the ladies that have caught my eye, will report back here if I do.

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2908279]
So kissing is pretty common. .[/QUOTE]Yes. And no. Many girls do it but only in that light "pecking" style they call "selinhos" (small stamps" French kissers are not too common but not impossible to find. With some of them, it's just a question of warming them up a bit with a hot cunnilingus. If you do make them cum, there's a strong possibility that afterwards they'll be up for anything.

I'm officially visiting Lisbon in a couple of weeks. I'm early in asking this, but which Portuguese girls do you guy recommend? Don't want anyone who is 40 and older.

So I'm in Lisbon for a trip and was really looking forward to this. Thanks to everyone here for all the info, I felt I was pretty prepared!

Then after I messaged about 4 different ladies, WhatsApp blocked me for "spam". I panic'd but managed to get a second phone number on my tablet and go ahold of someone. We scheduled a meeting for later this night and everything was set. I messaged at the appointed time to get the address. And WhatsApp blocked me. AGAIN.

I'm at a loss here. How can I get ahold of any ladies without WhatsApp?!

Please either read back at least several pages or else review the local photo-verified ad sites (Apartadox, Portal Privado, Docemassagem and Somassagens are the major four) and ask about specific ladies that interest you. But that in between leans towards pecks. I would say the style I got from Flora and Eller is actually the plurality... but that may be because getting smooched on is also a priority for me, and therefore my experience is skewed.

Hi Kama. Thanks for expanding. I did mention the "peck" style, as well as the "flounders. " In my experience, it's more or less this kind of a split for the ladies who do any manner of kissing, and those ladies are in the majority: 1/6 are doing flounders by default; 1/6 are doing pecks by default; and the rest are in between.

[QUOTE=BaltiX;2908514]I'm officially visiting Lisbon in a couple of weeks. I'm early in asking this, but which Portuguese girls do you guy recommend? Don't want anyone who is 40 and older.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AmesGuy;2908548]I'm at a loss here. How can I get ahold of any ladies without WhatsApp?![/QUOTE]It's very weird. The only scenario this could happen is when multiple people report you. But I can't see why the girls would do that. Unless you're super rude to them. .

You can try telegram instead of whatsapp (some girls use that). Or try using whatsapp business instead of regular whatsapp. But you still might need a new number.

That is extremely weird. Maybe it is some glitch at Zuckercrap, which relies heavily on some very bad bots to monitor this stuff?

I agree with the other comment that it's hard to imagine a scenario where so many ladies reported you as spam to get you booted from the app. The only one that makes any sense is if it were Escort Privada and you had the especially bad luck of messaging all girls who let the agency do their communications AND somehow got on that person's bad side.

I was also going to suggest Telegram as an alternate, but it is far less popular than Whatsapp.

[QUOTE=AmesGuy;2908548]So I'm in Lisbon for a trip and was really looking forward to this. Thanks to everyone here for all the info, I felt I was pretty prepared!

Then after I messaged about 4 different ladies, WhatsApp blocked me for "spam". I panic'd but managed to get a second phone number on my tablet and go ahold of someone. We scheduled a meeting for later this night and everything was set. I messaged at the appointed time to get the address. And WhatsApp blocked me. AGAIN.

The old rule, before WhatsApp became dominant, was that the ladies would take a direct, old fashioned telephone call, but they didn't want to SMS because of the charges. I have no idea about that situation now. You could try that, but then your run into the problem of whether they speak English.

I'm at a loss here. How can I get ahold of any ladies without WhatsApp?![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2908750]That is extremely weird. Maybe it is some glitch at Zuckercrap, which relies heavily on some very bad bots to monitor this stuff?[/QUOTE]After searching the web a bit, some people suggested this can happen if you message several people in a short period who are NOT in your contacts.

I bought a new eSim with a EU number, set up a new WhatsApp, made sure to add anyone I was about to message to my contacts first, and things seem to be working now!

After finally convincing Meta's algorithms to stop banning me, I was able to have a fairly productive week. Listed here in order of my personal preference. Thanks to everyone on the board for the info!

Joana Montenegro.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/joana-montenegro/[/URL]

I don't know what it was about her but I was definitely very attracted to her. It wasn't just her looks though, I just think our personalities were a good match.

Clara Mendes.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/clara-mendes/[/URL]

I'm really into small, tight-bodied women and she fit the bill perfectly. Very good looking, and average service. If you a visual person (like me) she is great to look, at but if you need a more enthusiastic participant, she probably is not your first choice.

Eller Rocha.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-eller-rocha-4428[/URL]

She has been reviewed several times, and definitely lives up to her reputation. Attractive, fit, speaks ok English and we were able to have some some talk before / after. She did not seem in any hurry to get me out the door and I actually had to prompt to leave.

Debora Mendes.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-debora-mendes-4796[/URL]

Took a swing on this one as her photos show large lips below, which I quite enjoy. Much more of a PSE experience, but was quite willing to go two rounds in the hour and gave a reasonable massage after. Limited English, but I wasn't really there to talk anyway.

She wanted 200 *plus* taxis for an outcall. But only 120 for an hour incall (and she does 30 minute appointments for half that).

Ines Pires.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/ines-pires/[/URL]

This one started off quite sensual and GFE but then at some point I don't know if she got tired (it was quite late) or what but I got the distinct feeling she just really wanted me to finish and the effort dropped off. I'll give her the benefit of the doubt though, because it did start quite nice and sensual. Maybe message her a bit earlier in the night if you want to see her. Great English and can hold a conversation.

Thanks AmesGuy for sharing your experiences. Eller Rocha and Ines Pires are probably my top picks to meet so it's interesting to hear about your time with them both.

I am going to Lisbon soon. Hoping I don't get the same WhatsApp issue as you did. I will save the numbers to my contacts before messaging them.

[QUOTE=OrangePenguin;2909824]I am going to Lisbon soon. Hoping I don't get the same WhatsApp issue as you did. I will save the numbers to my contacts before messaging them.[/QUOTE]Not a report. More like a tip.

I have WhatsApp business installed on my phone and I use it with a different phone number. It's completely free. The app has some additional (very useful) features like predefined messages or labeling chats or prople. I use it only for things like we discuss here. This way I have everything on one device (but separate number) and I never had any issues like AmesGuy. Perhaps "business accounts" have different limits on texting people who are not in the contact list?

Hello!

I will be visiting Lisbon soon and this thread is super helpful. Thank you. I wondered what the view is on filming, for example girls from EP? Ideally with their face, but perhaps without if that makes them feel better. Obviously for an extra fee. Do you know any girls who are happy for an iPhone video to be made, and what the usual fee is? Thanks very much!

My wife is planning a trip to Lisbon in July, my question is there a like a central area we should stay, so I can play while she do her tours? I prefer skinny no tits little Ass and under 30 yrs any help is appreciated thank you.

The overwhelming majority of incall service is in Entrecampos, Campo Pequeno, Saldanha and Picoas. That is a row of neighborhoods in "new downtown," and all are on the same metro line. So if you pick a hotel in any of them, you can easily get to anywhere in any of them.

[QUOTE=RedMan0505;2910377]My wife is planning a trip to Lisbon in July, my question is there a like a central area we should stay, so I can play while she do her tours? I prefer skinny no tits little Ass and under 30 yrs any help is appreciated thank you.[/QUOTE]

Some do that and some do not. I don't think anyone will be offended if you ask to take pictures or video. The worst that will happen is she will say no. But you should expect an extra charge for that service. I've heard of some EP girls allowing video or pics for free, but that was probably because they didn't know they could / should charge for it. EP used to not post menus of additional services (anal, rimming, etc) and leave that up to the girls discretion. Now they do itemize those things.

[QUOTE=JohnWaynes;2910369]Hello!

I will be visiting Lisbon soon and this thread is super helpful. Thank you. I wondered what the view is on filming, for example girls from EP? Ideally with their face, but perhaps without if that makes them feel better. Obviously for an extra fee. Do you know any girls who are happy for an iPhone video to be made, and what the usual fee is? Thanks very much![/QUOTE]

Debora Mendes's photos must be dated (it's an old entry). Are they true to reality?

[QUOTE=AmesGuy;2909694]After finally convincing Meta's algorithms to stop banning me, I was able to have a fairly productive week. Listed here in order of my personal preference. Thanks to everyone on the board for the info!

Joana Montenegro.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/joana-montenegro/[/URL]

I don't know what it was about her but I was definitely very attracted to her. It wasn't just her looks though, I just think our personalities were a good match.

Clara Mendes.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/clara-mendes/[/URL]

I'm really into small, tight-bodied women and she fit the bill perfectly. Very good looking, and average service. If you a visual person (like me) she is great to look, at but if you need a more enthusiastic participant, she probably is not your first choice..[/QUOTE]

I can't comment on Debora's photos but Joana Montenegro's pictures are probably several years old. I saw her last year and she wasn't quite as attractive in my opinion.

[QUOTE=Pecadozinho;2910989]Debora Mendes's photos must be dated (it's an old entry). Are they true to reality?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RedMan0505;2910377]My wife is planning a trip to Lisbon in July, my question is there a like a central area we should stay, so I can play while she do her tours? I prefer skinny no tits little Ass and under 30 yrs any help is appreciated thank you.[/QUOTE]Redman0505 is an excellent contributor to the Barcelona board.

I am going to break my cardinal rule in making lists (this long list is also for the many summer travelers) and mention one lady who is CBJ only, since Redman0505 is okay with CBJs.

Her name is Alice, and she just received an excellent review on the big American review board. She has an extensive list of services, speaks excellent English, and delivered a great performance according to the review. Tragic that she is CBJ only.

[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/alice/436153/?_fid=zyt4[/URL]

Now that I think about it, I am going to break the summer list posts into multiple ones for ease, so please read the posts I am going to do, but here are a couple of others for your consideration.

Lara Shulthz is a highly regarded lady. She is in her 30's but thin, which reduces her age appearance. She is CFS, but what she is best known for is her spectacular BBBJ and CIM along with legitimate massage skills. The face apparently isn't her strongest point.

[URL]https://www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhante/LaraShulthz[/URL]

On the opposite end of the spectrum is a lady, Julieta, who shows her face and it is regarded as her strongest point. She is athletic with the small bottom you like (small for a Brazilian at least) but reviewers say she has a little bit more of a tummy than the pics suggest. She gets mostly solid 7's and 8's on the local review board, but her face gives her a nice fan base. Her reviews indicate that she does BBBJ in addition to CFS, if course.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Julieta-6070[/URL]

[QUOTE=RedMan0505;2910377]My wife is planning a trip to Lisbon in July, my question is there a like a central area we should stay, so I can play while she do her tours? I prefer skinny no tits little Ass and under 30 yrs any help is appreciated thank you.[/QUOTE]Here is a list of the non Escort Privada ladies advertising on Apartadox at the moment who have strong reviews.

I will do a separate post for Escort Privada ladies. EP ladies are outcall only, and I realize you are usually looking for incall.

They aren't all your type, but many are. And the list is designed for the many summer travelers who will hit Lisbon. I am sure I will miss many, so other posters can make additions. And of course some great ladies will inevitably make their ads active again as soon as I post this, but that is just the way it works. All the girls I list are BBBJ in addition to CFS. Many offer anal.

I have to start with my favorite in Lisbon, Rebeca Diniz. Everyone who has seen her on the local board and this board has loved her. GFE to the max and aims to please. She simply gets what a sex what a provider is supposed to do. Open to light kink and anal is often available. I recommend her very highly.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-rebeca-diniz-6364[/URL]

Flora Neves is right up your alley. Young, spectacular breasts, physically fit, and GFE. She just received an excellent review on the big American review board. She was previously with EP and highly regarded with them.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-flora-neves-5484[/URL]

Mavie gets spectacular reviews on the local board and has the butt you like. However, her incall is in a touristy area outside of central Lisbon, so she might not be the girl for you, but deserves mention to benefit other posters.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-mavie-8096[/URL]

Eller Rocha gets great reviews both here on ISG and on the local board, shows her face, and has the tight body you like.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-eller-rocha-4428[/URL]

This next one isn't for you, as she is in her 30's, but for the anal fans, Tati Bernardi always seems to have it on the menu and her latest reviews on the local board say she is GFE. I don't know for sure, but her pics at least suggest she is likely kink-friendly.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-tati-bernardi-3753[/URL]

Ella Secret is another lady in her 30's who gets nothing but fantastic reviews on the local board.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Ella-Secret-6513[/URL]

And finally some others with less reviews who may be of interest.

Amesguy gave us a nice review of Deborah, who also has a very good review on the local board.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-debora-mendes-4796[/URL]

There are always requests from guys wanting bigger butts instead of you preference for smaller butts.

Jennifer Bueno shows her face and her big butt in her profile, both of which the local reviewers say to be accurate. She gets good reviews, mostly 7's and 8's, and has a nice fan base. She seems to focus on shorter 20 to 30 minute sessions.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Jeniffer-Bueno-6168[/URL]

Maju Rossi is another big-bottomed girl who some reviewers absolutely love and compare to Arianna Grande. However she sometimes gets a mediocre review, but they are few and far betweeen. She also goes by the name Isadora Marques.

[URL]https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/maju-rossi[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-isadora-marques-7677[/URL]

And finally, Ines Vaz has long been regarded as one of the best providers in Lisbon. As noted in prior posts, you might want to message her just to be sure CFS is available as part of the session. Hopefully that question will be fully answered soon.

[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]

[QUOTE=RedMan0505;2910377]My wife is planning a trip to Lisbon in July, my question is there a like a central area we should stay, so I can play while she do her tours? I prefer skinny no tits little Ass and under 30 yrs any help is appreciated thank you.[/QUOTE]And now last, but hopefully not least, are the highest recommended Escort Privada ladies. The agency has a ton of new ladies, very few of whom are reviewed. So don't take this list as being too definitive. We certainly need new reviews of the new ladies that tourists will try out.

That having been said, without question the EP lady with the best current reviews on multiple boards is Vivian Miller (sometimes spelled Miler). Young, perfect large breasts, GFE and a great attitude. She has her own separate thread on the United Kingdom punting abroad review board, instead of just part of an EP review thread, which I thought was funny. She is EP's current must-see lady.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/viviane-miler/[/URL]

That must-see designation once went to Joana Montenegro, and I am glad that Amesguy liked her since I mention her so often. Out of at least fifteen reviews, a good 85 percent of guys really like her, but as Harry mentioned, a few reviewers haven't been as attracted to her. The best reviews mention her pleasant personality and few mention that she is adventurous and one of the few kink-friendly (excluding anal) EP ladies.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/joana-montenegro/[/URL]

Raquel Costa (formerly Debora Dias) gets great reviews and is an excellent choice, especially if an athletic body is desired.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/raquel-costa/[/URL]

Lisa Mendes has received excellent reviews for many years, and is a rare Lisbon provider with a Ukrainian family background. She was formerly Bianca Pereira.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/lisa-mendes/[/URL]

As I will mention with Sara Valente, don't pay any attention to Lisa Mende's listed age of 20.

Clara Mendes (no relation to Lisa), just got a review on the big American review board. It was similar to the review that Amesguy just did. Clara is a cute young girl who delivers an acceptable GFE experience. She reminded the reviewer during the BBBJ that swallow is extra. Does it not occur to her that the guy getting the BBBJ that he is deep in an erotic fantasy that doesn't involve additional fees. Maybe she will get better. The real pros like Vivian Miller just understand these things. At least Clara is young and hot.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/clara-mendes/[/URL]

Sara Valente has long been one of my favorites. She is in her 30's but got more into physical fitness and has a hardbody. She speaks fluent English, likes foreigners, and delivers one hell of a BBBJ. She just knows how to do it, and does it with enthusiasm. I like her and think she is pretty, but not everyone does (at least to the same level that I do). Note that despite it being on Sara's profile, anal is almost never available with her.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/sara-valente/[/URL]

And finally, Iza Castilho just has one review (it was here on ISG), but it was a very good review, so she certainly belongs on the recommended list.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/iza-castilho/[/URL]

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2910396]The overwhelming majority of incall service is in Entrecampos, Campo Pequeno, Saldanha and Picoas. That is a row of neighborhoods in "new downtown," and all are on the same metro line. So if you pick a hotel in any of them, you can easily get to anywhere in any of them.[/QUOTE]Thanks for such valuable information. Is there an easy way to find these girls' ads? I'm also interested in incall. Thanks in advance!

Hey friends.

I'm Franziskore / Pakore from Spain. Used the forum last May and everybody was superfriendly and helpful.

I'm back this week. I Have some questions:

* "1 h time in ad vs. You cum you go home" * My WORST experiences are always related with that, the deal is 1 h but they do her best to make you cum fast and then say bye-bye, even in min 10. ,* by surprise, like a non-written law "everybody knows". No extra-ball, second round or game. You know. (even when they say it in their ad and reply if I asked especifically) . I need to know in advance if they are reported with that behaviour, if possible. It happened to me MANY times in different countries. Make me nervous during the act wondering if she would do it if I cum sooner eventually, I think we all know what I mean.

What I look: GFE with good kissing. Sex. Good English or Spanish. Incall prefered. Top 150 eu / h Not ebony ladies, or curvy 18-20 yo this time.

- Are all girls in EPrivada asking now 200?? Or you should ask each, also in the rest of webs, maybe using Portuguese to avoid extra-tourist rates? I keep with local sites.

- Girls I like w very good scores here (thanks Monguerer88 ! Eller Rocha, -Sara Valente or Alexandra, - Flora Neves and Vivian (so similar bodies)* - Rebecca Diniz.

Specific special ones:

- Isis / Silvia Nobre, she seems very experienced, also in Brazil ads, good English? Legal with time? Luna Cardoso seems similar, but inactive in webs?

- Bella Azevedo. Classy, woman, beautiful face, different, read she's legal with time and good (but quiet) services. My main concern is no English, I wonder if Spanish, maybe I should ask her directly. Some of my past experiences were not top because of lack of communication and creating a nice humour mood and atmosphere. Any experience from foreign?

- Patricia Navarro: agree 100%, she's a queen, been with her 2 times, in 2 days. Keep her numbers, two different, but keep writing her since weeks ago and still no response, I think she's "Fria" as her profile pic say. Any recent info? That system of her of only booking same day seems very unpratical to me.

-Ines Pires: nice wet-shirt pics also Eng / Spa, 1,70.30's seems an optimal option, but again, attitude and time-second round?

Any other recent "trustable" recommendation?

I still have numbers of Mel Pires, Eva Branco (who told me is friend with Camila Pereira) and Gabi Andrades. I guess they are still OK and active-.

- - DUOS?: but must me top 200 eu, not sure if that is possible, maybe 30 m I assume?

Never done before. The perfect plan was Patricia Navarro + Isabella. But who knows if she replies.

Alexandra + Sara Valente sounds a good sporty duo.

*Joana Montenegro + friend.

Other ApX: Cecilia+Sorange, Ariel+Diana, Filipa+Diana*.

Gracias!

Pakore,

If I understand your question correctly, you are being unrealistic on your pricing when it comes to Escort Privada.

They are 200 euros an hour now, and they do not offer a "locals" discount, which is one of the reasons the guys on the local board often unfairly blast them.

Duos are double the price. So a one-hour duo session would be 400 euros.

All of the EP ladies I listed in my post with the possible exception of Clara Mendes are definitely consistently reviewed as staying the full hour and doing two cums in the hour. Clara Mendes has gotten two recent reviews that are largely favorable but they both say she needs to improve her enthusiasm and love of sex. So we all hope she stays the full hour and does two cums, but she is the least guaranteed to do so from the list.

I arguably should have put Alexandria Mendes on the recommended list. I have seen her three times, once with Sara Valente. Alexandria Mendes will stay the full hour and do two cums. She is real life friends with Sara, so the duo is excellent. And Alexandria enjoys anal sex and it is generally in her menu. She was a bit passive for my taste, and there hasn't been a review of her for a while. She is a few years older than Sara and can be a bit of a yo-yo on weight. So I just don't know if a person is going to get a hot-bodied MILF anal queen with Alexandria, or a slightly chunky older lady. Given so many people asking for 20-year olds, including the guy I was making the list for, I decided to not put her on the list I did. Hopefully there will be some feedback. I saw Sara Valente a year or so ago, and I thought Sara looked fantastic.

Now let's discuss Ines Pires. There has been a lot of interest in guys seeing her based on her pic. I don't want to discourage anyone from seeing her, but honestly her three reviews haven't been that great in terms of attitude. Her local review does say she has an extremely athletic body, but that reviewer said her breasts were small and like two fried eggs. All of her reviews said her enthusiasm needed improvement. So frankly, I think the EP ladies I put on the list I just did would be better choices, especially Vivian Miller who is young, hot, has great breasts, and is getting raved about in her reviews.

There is no question that prices in Portugal have increased significantly in the last few months. They have done so everywhere in the world, including in Spain. This is how sex work prices work, like it or not. They remain the same for years, then they go up 25-50 percent one night and everyone is angry. If you go back and to the math, that often equates to 3 to 5 percent inflation a year over time.

I would hope that almost all of the independents on the list I did stay the full hour and do two cums in the hour. Rebecca Diniz certainly does. I don't know if I would call her ebony, but she has some Northern African family ancestry, and like a lot of Portuguese providers, including the ones from Brazil, there are a mixture of white, black and brown ancestors. So most are somewhat darker skinned, especially compared to Northern Europeans. Flora Neves comes from an Escort Privada background and I am pretty sure she will stay the full hour and do two cums. By all accounts, Eller Rocha is not a clock watcher.

Most of the local board reviews are shorter sessions where one cum is involved, so it is difficult to always know if the full hour commitment of the ladies. I put some ladies on that list who mostly do 30 minute sessions such as Jennifer Bueno since so many posters ask for that. Jennifer would be the biggest unknown as to whether she does two cums in an hour.

But the ladies on that list get good reviews, so hopefully they all will do the full hour and let you come twice, especially if you ask about that when you contact them. The one-hour prices for the independents on that list (which is in two posts) will range from 120 euros an hour to 200 euros an hour for incall. So their prices have gone up in the last year, also. Hopefully you will find what you are looking for in the price range you mentioned.

[QUOTE=Pakore;2911598]Hey friends.

I'm Franziskore / Pakore from Spain. Used the forum last May and everybody was superfriendly and helpful.

I'm back this week. I Have some questions:

* "1 h time in ad vs. You cum you go home" * My WORST experiences are always related with that, the deal is 1 h but they do her best to make you cum fast and then say bye-bye, even in min 10. ,* by surprise, like a non-written law "everybody knows". No extra-ball, second round or game. You know. (even when they say it in their ad and reply if I asked especifically) . I need to know in advance if they are reported with that behaviour, if possible. It happened to me MANY times in different countries. Make me nervous during the act wondering if she would do it if I cum sooner eventually, I think we all know what I mean.

What I look: GFE with good kissing. Sex. Good English or Spanish. Incall prefered. Top 150 eu / h Not ebony ladies, or curvy 18-20 yo this time.[/QUOTE]

Yes, EP raised their rate to 200/ h in January. All the outcall only girls have now followed them, with the possible exception of Soraia Albuquerque / Frederica Alves. She may still be asking 170 or 180. I'm not sure.

I think the best way to avoid being surprised by one shot on goal is to ask if getting an hour means two or more opportunities (local slang calls them opportunities). No one will be offended by the question. They'll tell you straight if it's only once per session.

I endorse Silvia Nobre, Eller Rocha, Mel Pires, Patricia Navarro, Bella Azevedo and Flora Neves from your list.

Assuming both Patricia and Isabel are in town at the same time, the problem with doing their duo is scheduling. What I found is they only want to make a duo booking on the day of, not before so making that happen may require repeated attempts.

Some ads list neighborhood, but that is more often the case if the lady is NOT in that downtown "hot zone. " You can ask what neighborhood they are in early on -- it's pretty typical, because you do need to figure out if you can get to her.

[QUOTE=Unostronzo1;2911522]Thanks for such valuable information. Is there an easy way to find these girls' ads? I'm also interested in incall. Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]

Sorry, I think I butchered something in my last post.

When guys say Pires and wet T-shirt, I think they are referring to Ines Pires of escortprivada who gets okay but not outstanding reviews. Amesguy did a review of Ines Pires that is a perfect summary of all her reviews. Some solid moments but not a full hour of action. Hopefully Ines Pires improves and does a commitment to a full hour of fun.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/ines-pires/[/URL]

There is also a Mel Pires who is a 35-39 year old lady with excellent reviews on the local board, including BBBJ. So she should have been on the list I did, especially for guys interested in a busty lady in her mid to late 30's. Here is the link for the recommended Mel Pires.

My apologies.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Mel-Pires-5408[/URL]

And of course after I made that list, one of the highly recommended 30 something independents offering BBBJ and GFE has an ad that just became active again. When a Lisbon independent takes an occasional week off, she often disables her ad, which makes lists difficult.

Here is the link for Raquel Soares.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-raquel-soares-7806[/URL]

Mongerer88 many thanks again for all of the information.

Just to add a bit more detail to my previous comment on Joana. I did find her attractive when I saw her last year, just not quite as attractive as made out in her EP and Apartadox pictures. Her age is listed as 24 on EP but I would guess she is in her early 30's. Those pictures were probably taken almost 10 years ago. Her most representative pictures are those on classificados:

[URL]https://www.classificadosx.net/pt/anuncio/20-mulheres-lisboa/124520-joana-montenegro[/URL]

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2911508]

That must-see designation once went to Joana Montenegro, and I am glad that Amesguy liked her since I mention her so often. Out of at least fifteen reviews, a good 85 percent of guys really like her, but as Harry mentioned, a few reviewers haven't been as attracted to her. The best reviews mention her pleasant personality and few mention that she is adventurous and one of the few kink-friendly (excluding anal) EP ladies.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/joana-montenegro/[/URL]

[/QUOTE]

Joana Montenegro was probably an EP newcomer some months before the Pandemic -- say middle 2019?

No review of her dates to before early 2020.

And finally, the current photoshoot is her third, if I recall correctly. It is at least two years old. Anyone interested in doing a little homework can verify the earlier photoshoots and the review dates with even a brief, properly worded search.

I won't comment on her looks, since I have no direct experience of them. But she is absolutely not some leathery veteran who was working Lisbon back in 2014. I should know; I was there at the time. The idea that the photoshoot is that old is pure balderdash.

Not great when someone wants to "fact check" the dates but then proceeds to give inaccurate dates (also not great in light of me clearly wording my post to suggest it was an estimation).

I can see a chap on a forum having reviewed her in 2019. So to state no reviews before "early 2020" is inaccurate.

My suggestion that her EP pictures are probably almost 10 years old may not be accurate but it was a guess based on my seeing her in the flesh last year. It could be that they are approximately 5 years old.

Anyhow, the most important point I wanted to convey, was that she looks more like her classificados pictures (which show a quite different body to those on EP). Hopefully that came across to those who were interested. She may not be a "leathery veteran" but she is early 30's in my opinion and has been in the game since 2019 or earlier.

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2912112]Joana Montenegro was probably an EP newcomer some months before the Pandemic -- say middle 2019?

No review of her dates to before early 2020.

And finally, the current photoshoot is her third, if I recall correctly. It is at least two years old. Anyone interested in doing a little homework can verify the earlier photoshoots and the review dates with even a brief, properly worded search.

I won't comment on her looks, since I have no direct experience of them. But she is absolutely not some leathery veteran who was working Lisbon back in 2014. I should know; I was there at the time. The idea that the photoshoot is that old is pure balderdash.[/QUOTE]

Trolls going to troll.

Yet another inaccurate post.

[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2912112]Joana Montenegro was probably an EP newcomer some months before the Pandemic -- say middle 2019?

No review of her dates to before early 2020.

And finally, the current photoshoot is her third, if I recall correctly. It is at least two years old. Anyone interested in doing a little homework can verify the earlier photoshoots and the review dates with even a brief, properly worded search.

I won't comment on her looks, since I have no direct experience of them. But she is absolutely not some leathery veteran who was working Lisbon back in 2014. I should know; I was there at the time. The idea that the photoshoot is that old is pure balderdash.[/QUOTE]For what it's worth, I saw Joana a few times in 2023 and she mentioned she was 29. I would have guessed somewhere between 28-30. As Harry mentioned, the selfies on Classificados are the most accurate photos. She's a very attractive woman for sure but not as young as advertised, which might bother some.

No idea how long she's been working. Don't think that really matters when it comes to quality of service.

I always thought she looked like Rae Dawn Chong in Commando, which is the most 80's reference I've ever come up with.

Yes the Rae Dawn Chong resemblance is not a bad shout!

Agree completely that her service is what's important rather than how long she's been working. I enjoyed the meet with her, and tried to see her again on a recent trip but she only had late evening availability for several days which didn't work for me (I'll update shortly on other ladies I saw).

It's a shame her EP details are not as representative as they could be, fortunately I still found her attractive last year.

[QUOTE=PER23;2912434]For what it's worth, I saw Joana a few times in 2023 and she mentioned she was 29. I would have guessed somewhere between 28-30. As Harry mentioned, the selfies on Classificados are the most accurate photos. She's a very attractive woman for sure but not as young as advertised, which might bother some.

No idea how long she's been working. Don't think that really matters when it comes to quality of service.

I always thought she looked like Rae Dawn Chong in Commando, which is the most 80's reference I've ever come up with.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PER23;2912434]For what it's worth, I saw Joana a few times in 2023 and she mentioned she was 29. I would have guessed somewhere between 28-30. As Harry mentioned, the selfies on Classificados are the most accurate photos. She's a very attractive woman for sure but not as young as advertised, which might bother some.

No idea how long she's been working. Don't think that really matters when it comes to quality of service.

I always thought she looked like Rae Dawn Chong in Commando, which is the most 80's reference I've ever come up with.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reference point on Joanna Montenegro.

[URL]https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-commando-year-1985-director-mark-l-lester-rae-dawn-chong-10271518.html[/URL]

I think Sara Valente looks amazingly like this girl who reviewed the various breakfast sandwiches at McDonalds.

[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/tried-8-mcdonalds-breakfast-sandwiches-130800780.html[/URL]

These give people a better idea of what to expect when they hear the knock, knock on the hotel room door.

With women of Portuguese and Northern African heritage in Lisbon, expect some big hair and some big noses. For Brazilians, expect some big butts, too.

I think the American tourists who express some disappointment in the looks of Portuguese providers think that every European woman looks like the Scandinavian lady featured in 1980's sex comedies directed at men. Those movies always had a 18-year year old tall, blond, busty European foreign exchange student girl who had arrived in the United States and lived with her host family who had teens who went to her new high school. The foreign exchange student would walk around topless after her morning shower while the boys would look longingly at her and the girls would be jealous, before the host family parents would inform her that American traditions forbid this. I have serious doubts that this ever occurred in real life, or that busty Scandinavian high school senior girls in their native lands walk around the house topless.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2912459]I think the American tourists who express some disappointment in the looks of Portuguese providers think that every European woman looks like the Scandinavian lady featured in 1980's sex comedies directed at men. Those movies always had a 18-year year old tall, blond, busty European foreign exchange student girl who had arrived in the United States and lived with her host family who had teens who went to her new high school. The foreign exchange student would walk around topless after her morning shower while the boys would look longingly at her and the girls would be jealous, before the host family parents would inform her that American traditions forbid this. I have serious doubts that this ever occurred in real life, or that busty Scandinavian high school senior girls in their native lands walk around the house topless.[/QUOTE]What an overdose of totally silly stereotypes!

[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2912575]What an overdose of totally silly stereotypes![/QUOTE]Yes, but the American teen males seemed to enjoy this stereotype when the American censors finally allowed bare breasts in are rated movies in the 1980's.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2912459]Thanks for the reference point on Joanna Montenegro.

[URL]https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-commando-year-1985-director-mark-l-lester-rae-dawn-chong-10271518.html[/URL]

I think Sara Valente looks amazingly like this girl who reviewed the various breakfast sandwiches at McDonalds.

[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/tried-8-mcdonalds-breakfast-sandwiches-130800780.html[/URL]

These give people a better idea of what to expect when they hear the knock, knock on the hotel room door.

With women of Portuguese and Northern African heritage in Lisbon, expect some big hair and some big noses. For Brazilians, expect some big butts, too.

I think the American tourists who express some disappointment in the looks of Portuguese providers think that every European woman looks like the Scandinavian lady featured in 1980's sex comedies directed at men. Those movies always had a 18-year year old tall, blond, busty European foreign exchange student girl who had arrived in the United States and lived with her host family who had teens who went to her new high school. The foreign exchange student would walk around topless after her morning shower while the boys would look longingly at her and the girls would be jealous, before the host family parents would inform her that American traditions forbid this. I have serious doubts that this ever occurred in real life, or that busty Scandinavian high school senior girls in their native lands walk around the house topless.[/QUOTE]Respectfully, I would say Sara Valente looks like a slightly mature version of the actress Jennifer Esposito - [URL]https://theplace-2.com/photos/Jennifer-Esposito-md2041/[/URL] Especially since she (Sara) dropped a lot of weight and changed to a shorter hairstyle.

So I just have been with Patricia Navarro and Isabela. What a superb experience, she remembers me and is all, sympathy, sweetness smiles but salty and wild too. Isabela is quite bella and lovely too. Taller and less curvy, natural medium boobs, not busty. But classy and deep stare and endurance. My first trio and it has been superhot. Kissing (real life passionate kissing, c'Mon. It is not so difficult, girls). All positions we wanted. Facial, cowgirl, doggy, spoons. Double heavenly oral BBBJCIM " I like it more than you, she said", 69's. And wild fuck with both, of course. Anal fingering and rimming for me any time while pushing and pushing. Patricia showed me a dildo for strap-on, with an evilish smile, as she did before. But not for the moment, maybe. I would try one day, who cares. What else that have not been told again and again. 10/10 you could find more model-like posh fancy girls but they have 1# top attitude, they really like to fuck and enjoy the moment giving and receiving pleasure. Experienced and enthusiast. Brazil!

The good new is their unbeatable price 240 1 h / 140 30 m. (compare with the 400) Patricia is 120/80 still.

Place is clean and cozy, with shower, Patricia speaks good English and Isabela can understand with her.

They are doing the duo this week at least, the ad is down but you can contact her. Be patient and keep trying.

At the end we did talk about this thread and how I met her because of all your comments and tips. When I have mentioned " one of the best girls in Portugal" they laugh out oud! She asked me to show the comments. And if it is OK for the members I would do. I wait for your response.

Tomorrow I will go with Eller Rocha. Patricia knows her too and say place and her are great.

[QUOTE=Pakore;2912764]So I just have been with Patricia Navarro and Isabela. What a superb experience, she remembers me and is all, sympathy, sweetness smiles but salty and wild too. Isabela is quite bella and lovely too. Taller and less curvy, natural medium boobs, not busty. But classy and deep stare and endurance. My first trio and it has been superhot. Kissing (real life passionate kissing, c'Mon. It is not so difficult, girls). All positions we wanted. Facial, cowgirl, doggy, spoons. Double heavenly oral BBBJCIM " I like it more than you, she said", 69's. And wild fuck with both, of course. Anal fingering and rimming for me any time while pushing and pushing. Patricia showed me a dildo for strap-on, with an evilish smile, as she did before. But not for the moment, maybe. I would try one day, who cares. What else that have not been told again and again. 10/10 you could find more model-like posh fancy girls but they have 1# top attitude, they really like to fuck and enjoy the moment giving and receiving pleasure. Experienced and enthusiast. Brazil!

The good new is their unbeatable price 240 1 h / 140 30 m. (compare with the 400) Patricia is 120/80 still.

Place is clean and cozy, with shower, Patricia speaks good English and Isabela can understand with her.

They are doing the duo this week at least, the ad is down but you can contact her. Be patient and keep trying.

At the end we did talk about this thread and how I met her because of all your comments and tips. When I have mentioned " one of the best girls in Portugal" they laugh out oud! She asked me to show the comments. And if it is OK for the members I would do. I wait for your response.

Tomorrow I will go with Eller Rocha. Patricia knows her too and say place and her are great.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the review. I don't think any of us object to the ladies seeing reviews and discussions. The good providers hang out with other good providers, and may not realize just how many rip-offs and scams exist. We have reviews and lists to help each other, and to help get more business to the ladies who give great service.

Here are their ads.

They advertise on Portal Privado, which doesn't list all the advertisers likeApartadox does, so sometimes ads on Portal Privado are more difficult to find. These two ladies certainly belong on the list of the best ladies to see in Lisbon, but keep in mind that the list I made for the guy asking about Lisbon was geared toward younger providers since he asked about ladies under 30. Lists are helpful for the summer tourists, but difficult to make because some people want ladies in their teens and twenties, and others want more mature ladies. But in the last few pages, there are now around 25 recommended ladies, which should be helpful to the summer tourists.

Of the guys I have helped on the Toronto board, one raved about Patricia. So she is no doubt an excellent provider, as is Isabella Venturi based on your review. They both have excellent reviews on the local board, with Patricia having pages of top-notch reviews.

But we will never avoid disagreements. Of the three Toronto guys who came back and did reviews, one loved Joanna Montenegro of EP, and one of them didn't think she matched the EP pictures, just like Harry indicated.

[URL]https://portalprivado.com/pt/acompanhantes/acompanhantes-lisboa/acompanhante-patricia-navarro[/URL]

[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes/acompanhantes-lisboa/acompanhante-isabela-venturi[/URL]

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2912802]These two ladies certainly belong on the list of the best ladies to see in Lisbon[/QUOTE]I've only met Patricia once and dhe is, no doubt, very, very good. But I'm not sure if I would place her in my current Lisbon top 5. A great experience but you never forget you're paying for sex. With the really outstanding ones thet thought never crosses your mind.

I read earlier in this thread that Sara Valente's breasts shrunk due to weight loss. Is it true?

[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2912983]I've only met Patricia once and dhe is, no doubt, very, very good. But I'm not sure if I would place her in my current Lisbon top 5. A great experience but you never forget you're paying for sex. With the really outstanding ones thet thought never crosses your mind.[/QUOTE]I am curious, Kama! What is your top 5 list?

Flora Neves.

She isn't on EP but has now pushed her price up to the EP levels (e200) having previously been e180. Guess it was inevitable. I asked her about it and she said that as she works minimal hours, she needs to be charging as much as she can.

This meet actually wasn't quite as good as my meet last year, but it was still satisfactory. She immediately remembered me, which took me aback given it had been several months. This time, however, I got absolutely no DFK and even the pecks were limited (she kept turning her face away). Last time it was unlimited DFK from memory, just with no tongues. Some other reviews have also mentioned no DFK. The issue is that she advertises providing the service, so it's really not great.

One other slight negative is minimal FIV this time (she said no) whereas last time I recall there being no restriction.

What I like about her is her positioning during penetration to give us maximum pleasure.

Also beware that trying to get a booking with her isn't easy, partly because she just switches her phone off some days. She also arrived almost 30 minutes late, which I find very poor (but I know some guys find it normal).

However, despite what seems like a lot of negatives, I was satisfied with the meet. The blowjob and penetration were good. Overall, however, I'm not sure If I'the book her again. The new level of Lisbon outcall prices also doesn't help. Funnily enough the comment in the previous post about not forgetting you're paying for sex, rang true a bit with Flora.

Funnily enough, there is a girl on EP called Margarida Dias who looks so much like Flora on the pictures that I'm going to give her a go if she's around when I'm next there:

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/margarida-dias/[/URL]



Vitoria Mendes.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-vitoria-mendes-7606[/URL]

I decided to roll the dice. Yes, I'm fully aware of the risks of seeing someone who hasn't been reported on much. But I get a buzz from the unknown.

Decided to go with incall at e150 for the hour even though outcall is very much my preference. A relatively central Lisbon location, but when I got there I regretted not doing an outcall. It wasn't the most luxurious of places, and I was worried about cleanliness of bed sheets / towels etc.

She looks good in the flesh, not too dissimilar to the above advert. However, she is slightly darker toned but I expected that and have no issue with it.

She doesn't quite have the enthusiasm for sex as someone like Flora, but you can still have a good service providing you are happy to be constantly directing her. Got some DFK, a deep blowjob and some face fucking, and she's happy to take quite a pounding. Got through 5 different positions which was great, and she catered for fetishes.

Her English is limited and communication was hard (needed google translate once or twice).

Got the full hour with her, but I must reiterate that you need to direct her. If you are too passive, she may try and get away with a lacklustre service and short change.

Not someone I'll see again but good to have a gamble and not a bad meet overall.



Vivianne Miller.

A e200 outcall meet via EP. Well reviewed girl and I don't have much to add other than to confirm she's great. Looks like the pictures on EP, albeit not quite as attractive. Aged 19-20 in my opinion.

Unlimited DFK, wonderful OWO and deep throating, energetic penetration in any position I wanted. Just a wonderful girl and nothing was off limits. We even performed a bit of role-play which she acted out brilliantly! Her English is workable but I wouldn't describe her as fluent.

She arrived on time and there was no request for money at the start which I always take as a positive.

Will be seeing her again.

Will update shortly on another two ladies I saw.

Dear Kama LEO.

In the past, you and Mongerere88 have given me very good suggestions. I will be in Lisbon again in the first week of June. I'm searching for a slim and quite young black girl like the unforgettable Lila. At the moment, my idea is to meet Rebecca Diniz, but I am very curious about your top five list.

Bye.

[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2912983]I've only met Patricia once and dhe is, no doubt, very, very good. But I'm not sure if I would place her in my current Lisbon top 5. A great experience but you never forget you're paying for sex. With the really outstanding ones thet thought never crosses your mind.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BaltiX;2913041]I read earlier in this thread that Sara Valente's breasts shrunk due to weight loss. Is it true?[/QUOTE]Yes, I have seen her every few years for around a decade, and they are smaller now. The first thing that reduces on a woman when she loses weight is her breasts.

Some of the reviews over the years show just how difficult it must be sometimes to be a female in this business.

Sara was never fat. Like a lot of young women, most of her excess weight went to her breasts and a little bit to her butt. She never had a belly.

They got even bigger around her period, and for short periods of time each month, there would be some minor stretch marks at the top of them. Of course some reviewers who saw her at just that particular moment pointed it out. But they weren't like that all of the time.

Like a lot of young women with large natural breasts who aren't large anywhere else, they sagged a bit, so she got a minor procedure for lift.

Then for whatever reason, she got into physical fitness a bit more, so she has a slimmer body with smaller breasts, but they are still relatively large proportionate to the rest of her body. I thought she looked great. PER23's comparison to the movie star he listed may be more accurate than the McDonalds sandwich tasting girl, and Sara would probably like the movie star comparison better.

As with a woman's breasts being the first things to get smaller when she loses weight, life has trade-offs. Sara was a little more adventuresome when I first saw her. She now knows what she likes and doesn't like. She doesn't do anal (at least with me any longer), and she isn't terribly fetish-friendly. EP never changes a profile, so we are the ones who have to be honest about these things. But she is still a great experience, at least for me, since I value a really good BBBJTC. Sara has a really good civilian job and squeezes in appointments when she can. Clearly, she has been around since almost the beginning of EP, so she has a regular list of clients and she is successful at this. She is fluent in English and even though she has regulars, she is very foreigner friendly and wants her customers to have a good time. There are three attributes to any good sex worker, she must like sex, she must want her customer to have a good overall time, and she must be a nice, friendly person. The ones who stick with this for a decade have those attributes, and Sara does.

If you want those attributes in a relatively younger lady, as in 20 years old instead of around 30, and you want an EP lady with large breasts, clearly Viviane Miller, who Harry1217 just reviewed, would be a better choice than Sara Valente. But we are making a lot of fine distinctions, and many customers are too picky. I don't think you can go wrong with Vivian Miller, Joana Montenegro, Raquel Costa, Lisa Mendes or Sara Valente. And hopefully Iza Castilho gets more reviews that puts her on that list (she only has one review here on ISG). The nature of reviews is that they favor relatively older providers since it takes a while for ladies to get enough reviews to be on lists. For guys wanting women closer to 20 instead of 30, it is great that Viviane Miller has gotten so many favorable reviews so quickly.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2913181]Yes, I have seen her every few years for around a decade, and they are smaller now. The first thing that reduces on a woman when she loses weight is her breasts.

Some of the reviews over the years show just how difficult it must be sometimes to be a female in this business.

Sara was never fat. Like a lot of young women, most of her excess weight went to her breasts and a little bit to her butt. She never had a belly.

They got even bigger around her period, and for short periods of time each month, there would be some minor stretch marks at the top of them. Of course some reviewers who saw her at just that particular moment pointed it out. But they weren't like that all of the time.

Like a lot of young women with large natural breasts who aren't large anywhere else, they sagged a bit, so she got a minor procedure for lift..[/QUOTE]Thanks for answering. I didn't know she was around that long. I'm not surprised that her listed age isn't accurate as it's common for working girls and establishments to lie about their ages worldwide generally speaking. I thought about seeing Sara, but I'm not entirely sure. I don't know if I want to see a girl who been around that long to be honest. There is list of Portuguese girls I'm interested, but as someone else said it keeps changing weekly. BTW, I signed up for the local forum, but I can't search and it seems the reviewers are more focused on Brazilian girls. And what's the name of the big American forum you mentioned?

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2913181]Yes, I have seen her every few years for around a decade, and they are smaller now. The first thing that reduces on a woman when she loses weight is her breasts.

Some of the reviews over the years show just how difficult it must be sometimes to be a female in this business.

Sara was never fat. Like a lot of young women, most of her excess weight went to her breasts and a little bit to her butt. She never had a belly.

They got even bigger around her period, and for short periods of time each month, there would be some minor stretch marks at the top of them. Of course some reviewers who saw her at just that particular moment pointed it out. But they weren't like that all of the time.

Like a lot of young women with large natural breasts who aren't large anywhere else, they sagged a bit, so she got a minor procedure for lift.

Then for whatever reason, she got into physical fitness a bit more, so she has a slimmer body with smaller breasts, but they are still relatively large proportionate to the rest of her body. I thought she looked great. PER23's comparison to the movie star he listed may be more accurate than the McDonalds sandwich tasting girl, and Sara would probably like the movie star comparison better.

As with a woman's breasts being the first things to get smaller when she loses weight, life has trade-offs. Sara was a little more adventuresome when I first saw her. She now knows what she likes and doesn't like. She doesn't do anal (at least with me any longer), and she isn't terribly fetish-friendly. EP never changes a profile, so we are the ones who have to be honest about these things. But she is still a great experience, at least for me, since I value a really good BBBJTC. Sara has a really good civilian job and squeezes in appointments when she can. Clearly, she has been around since almost the beginning of EP, so she has a regular list of clients and she is successful at this. She is fluent in English and even though she has regulars, she is very foreigner friendly and wants her customers to have a good time. There are three attributes to any good sex worker, she must like sex, she must want her customer to have a good overall time, and she must be a nice, friendly person. The ones who stick with this for a decade have those attributes, and Sara does.

If you want those attributes in a relatively younger lady, as in 20 years old instead of around 30, and you want an EP lady with large breasts, clearly Viviane Miller, who Harry1217 just reviewed, would be a better choice than Sara Valente. But we are making a lot of fine distinctions, and many customers are too picky. I don't think you can go wrong with Vivian Miller, Joana Montenegro, Raquel Costa, Lisa Mendes or Sara Valente. And hopefully Iza Castilho gets more reviews that puts her on that list (she only has one review here on ISG). The nature of reviews is that they favor relatively older providers since it takes a while for ladies to get enough reviews to be on lists. For guys wanting women closer to 20 instead of 30, it is great that Viviane Miller has gotten so many favorable reviews so quickly.[/QUOTE]Not sure if this was picked up on, but I reviewed Iza when she was Matilde Ribeiro. - [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?761-Lisbon&p=2797517&highlight=matilde[/URL]#post2797517.

As for Sara, I was less attracted to her new look last year but that's only because I'd seen her in 2021 and thought she looked amazing. Her personality absolutely cannot be beat. Certainly one of the sexiest women I've met.

I think I was first to review Viviane on here and she's a different type of sexy. Bombshell body, very willing in bed and also very sweet, but at no point do you forget that you're talking to someone who is barely out of their teens. A bit of a fantasy to be sure, but book for more than an hour and you'll be wishing for a conversation with someone like Sara.

Now this makes me wonder why one of EPs absolute best ladies who had stunning looks and was one of the oldest on the roster never had many reviews on here. She's gone from the agency now. I figured that she was so much fun nobody wanted to spill the beans. I saw her over 20 times in under 6 months and never wrote a review. Had to keep it to myself, it was that mindblowing. Maybe it was just me.

I am happy to realise that I was one of the first members to report on Particia, from my meet with her in 2019, she was a bomb then and she is a bomb now too.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2912802]Thanks for the review. I don't think any of us object to the ladies seeing reviews and discussions. The good providers hang out with other good providers, and may not realize just how many rip-offs and scams exist. We have reviews and lists to help each other, and to help get more business to the ladies who give great service.




[URL]https://portalprivado.com/pt/acompanhantes/acompanhantes-lisboa/acompanhante-patricia-navarro[/URL]

[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes/acompanhantes-lisboa/acompanhante-isabela-venturi[/URL][/QUOTE]

From her reviews, the consensus on Rebeca Diniz's age seems to be around 30. She's advertised on Apartadox as being 28, so 30 or a touch older seems entirely normal.

I'm not sure if that meets your criteria to see a "quite young" girl?

[QUOTE=Emeli67;2913168]Dear Kama LEO.

In the past, you and Mongerere88 have given me very good suggestions. I will be in Lisbon again in the first week of June. I'm searching for a slim and quite young black girl like the unforgettable Lila. At the moment, my idea is to meet Rebecca Diniz, but I am very curious about your top five list.

Bye.[/QUOTE]

Hi everyone,

I'm new to this forum and and will be leaving for a trip to Lisbon the end of this week for a few weeks. I've been reviewing the forum pages here going back to mid 2022 and it's been extremely helpful in helping me pick which ladies to see on my upcoming trip, and I also joined the local Portuguese forum as well. I was in Lisbon briefly for a few days in January and was lucky to see Viviane Miler during my brief stay and agree with what everyone else has been saying about her, really cute pretty face, fantastic body with a gorgeous set of breasts and awesome in bed, the women is phenomenal riding in cowgirl and gets really wet during sex and loves DFK. She also has a very sweet friendly attitude just an absolute gem, she's at the top of my list of girls to see in Lisbon and I might end up seeing her multiple times while I'm there. I'm also planning on seeing Flora Neves, Rebeca Diniz, Ines Vaz and Morgana Cruz a curvy busty Brazilian in her late 20's / early 30's who has been getting tons of fantastic reviews on the local Portuguese forum. [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-morgana-cruz-7168.[/URL] I also have some other girls in mind too like Sara Valente, Filipa Marques, and Raquel Soares. I really like Brazilian women and Mediterranean women so Portuguese women are right up my alley especially since I am of Portuguese ancestry so I find it helps me connect with them and I can understand Portuguese and can speak some of it as well. Like I said I prefer Portuguese and Brazilian women early to late 20's preferably but I don't mind them in their 30's as well and wouldn't mind seeing a sexy MILF as well. Looks wise I'm pretty flexible I like slim women and curvy busty women with natural bodies and facially they don't have to be gorgeous. For me it's more about having a pleasant sweet attitude and good intimate GFE sex with lots of kissing. Any other recommendations you guys can add will be much appreciated. EP has a ton of new girls since I was there in January, women like Renata Alves, Margarida Dias, Irina Cruz, Vania Silva and Gabriela Marques look really good but I'm hesitant to book them because they have no reviews yet. Also if anyone can let me know if Eva Branco is still active let me know, I remember seeing her profile on Ep and Apartadox in January when I was there but I didn't have time to see her and she's gone now. If anyone knows if she's still active and still seeing regulars but doesn't advertise let me know, her reviews show that she's a cute curvy busty Portuguese women that really like GFE sex which is what I really look for in a women. Thanks again to all the members here it's much appreciated.

[QUOTE=Pakore;2911598]Hey friends.

I'm Franziskore / Pakore from Spain. Used the forum last May and everybody was superfriendly and helpful.

I'm back this week. I Have some questions:

* "1 h time in ad vs. You cum you go home" * My WORST experiences are always related with that, the deal is 1 h but they do her best to make you cum fast and then say bye-bye, even in min 10. ,* by surprise, like a non-written law "everybody knows". No extra-ball, second round or game. You know. (even when they say it in their ad and reply if I asked especifically) . I need to know in advance if they are reported with that behaviour, if possible. It happened to me MANY times in different countries. Make me nervous during the act wondering if she would do it if I cum sooner eventually, I think we all know what I mean.

What I look: GFE with good kissing. Sex. Good English or Spanish. Incall prefered. Top 150 eu / h Not ebony ladies, or curvy 18-20 yo this time.

- Are all girls in EPrivada asking now 200?? Or you should ask each, also in the rest of webs, maybe using Portuguese to avoid extra-tourist rates? I keep with local sites.

- Girls I like w very good scores here (thanks Monguerer88 ! Eller Rocha, -Sara Valente or Alexandra, - Flora Neves and Vivian (so similar bodies)* - Rebecca Diniz.

Specific special ones:

- Isis / Silvia Nobre, she seems very experienced, also in Brazil ads, good English? Legal with time? Luna Cardoso seems similar, but inactive in webs?

- Bella Azevedo. Classy, woman, beautiful face, different, read she's legal with time and good (but quiet) services. My main concern is no English, I wonder if Spanish, maybe I should ask her directly. Some of my past experiences were not top because of lack of communication and creating a nice humour mood and atmosphere. Any experience from foreign?

- Patricia Navarro: agree 100%, she's a queen, been with her 2 times, in 2 days. Keep her numbers, two different, but keep writing her since weeks ago and still no response, I think she's "Fria" as her profile pic say. Any recent info? That system of her of only booking same day seems very unpratical to me.

-Ines Pires: nice wet-shirt pics also Eng / Spa, 1,70.30's seems an optimal option, but again, attitude and time-second round?

Any other recent "trustable" recommendation?

I still have numbers of Mel Pires, Eva Branco (who told me is friend with Camila Pereira) and Gabi Andrades. I guess they are still OK and active-.

- - DUOS?: but must me top 200 eu, not sure if that is possible, maybe 30 m I assume?

Never done before. The perfect plan was Patricia Navarro + Isabella. But who knows if she replies.

Alexandra + Sara Valente sounds a good sporty duo.

*Joana Montenegro + friend.

Other ApX: Cecilia+Sorange, Ariel+Diana, Filipa+Diana*.

Gracias![/QUOTE]Hi Pakore can you confirm for me while your in Lisbon if Eva Branco is still active or not? I don't see her on EP or Apartadox but some of these girls still see regulars even though they stop advertising. If you can find out for me that would be great.

ELLER ROCHA.

Good experience overall but maybe with a common language the connection, the humour and fun could be better. He understands some English and some Spanish and I understand a little Portuguese. My best experiences always had a lot to do with creating a good atmosphere, breaking the ice, some jokes, compliments, respect. She told me in chat that she kisses and no problem to second opportunities or cums. Place is good, seems a big luxury house and it was a small but clean room and bed. We started with some good lap dance, good stuff. I played old rock and roll music (Link Wray!). Her body is just amazing, sensual and sweet, maybe she is like 1,55 but very sporty fit and with a lot of tattoos, when I asked about the huge girl face in her back she told me "it's me" (also the whole arms. Beautiful sweet and spicy face, deep eyes and cherry mouth, as you can see. Calm voice, although it was common like "what?, pardon?" I did continue doing a massage to her, I like to explore and admire the whole body of a beautiful woman like her. They usually love it, Soft skin, pure velvet, small natural* tits with piercings, finally, too much silicone everywhere around. She didn't like to be fingered, but yes to caress and lick the clit. She kisses very good, small mouth and tongue, very sensual and. Teenage GFE-ish. Then we moved to BBJ, relaxed and with an attitude of giving pleasure, "you rule", some deep throat. Then sex with lotus, cowgirl, spoon, missionary, crab, doggy, over her back. Spank her and she said "NO", my fault. Some rest and finishing with handjob and intense stares, smiles and kisses. I guess she didn't reach / I didn't make her to cum, something that always elevate the experience maybe more connection and time would help to please her as her preferences. But she said she liked it. *.

The previous day with Patricia Navarro and Isabela Venturi was crazier fun and like a party with known lovers, quite porn-ish and explosive, I guess it was chemistry. But that is not easy to find on a first date. If you speak Portuguese you could have a real good time with Eller, especially if you like that style of bad-good babe and connect with her, not difficult I see.

Attitude, body, implication, knowledge can be 9/10 but as I say the overall experience due to my circumstances would be like 8/10.

Hope it helps-.

[QUOTE=PER23;2913243]Now this makes me wonder why one of EPs absolute best ladies who had stunning looks and was one of the oldest on the roster never had many reviews on here. She's gone from the agency now. I figured that she was so much fun nobody wanted to spill the beans. I saw her over 20 times in under 6 months and never wrote a review. Had to keep it to myself, it was that mindblowing. Maybe it was just me.[/QUOTE]Hmm, I'm curious, which one? Helena de Melo? Olivia Sampaio?

[QUOTE=JoeSeed;2913960]Hmm, I'm curious, which one? Helena de Melo? Olivia Sampaio?[/QUOTE]I'm not going to answer for now. My suspicion is that this lady was so unique and great between the sheets, nobody wanted to post a review and give the game away. I just can't believe she came and went with so few reviews. Maybe I'm projecting, but she was working enough that she must have seen quite a few members of this site. Even the worst girls on EP get reviews on here as a statistical probability of working for a few months.

Like I said, I saw this lady over 20 times. Probably more than 30. I stopped counting. I still think about her, it was that good. And I've seen Viviane, Joana, Sara and all of their best girls that everyone knows about.

[QUOTE=PER23;2914030]I'm not going to answer for now. My suspicion is that this lady was so unique and great between the sheets, nobody wanted to post a review and give the game away. I just can't believe she came and went with so few reviews. Maybe I'm projecting, but she was working enough that she must have seen quite a few members of this site. Even the worst girls on EP get reviews on here as a statistical probability of working for a few months.

Like I said, I saw this lady over 20 times. Probably more than 30. I stopped counting. I still think about her, it was that good. And I've seen Viviane, Joana, Sara and all of their best girls that everyone knows about.[/QUOTE]Ok ok. Maybe Maria (Rita) Gomes then.

There were quite a few gems 2017-2019, but those are oldies and have all "retired" a while ago.

[QUOTE=JoeSeed;2914068]Ok ok. Maybe Maria (Rita) Gomes then.

There were quite a few gems 2017-2019, but those are oldies and have all "retired" a while ago.[/QUOTE]Don't mean to drag the whole thing out. This lady was working recently, as in 2023. Never saw a review on the local board and hardly any mention on here. Didn't make sense for someone who worked so much. Can't imagine it was just me having such a great time with her, but maybe it was.

For perspective, I'd seen 25 of the women on EP's roster at the start of 2023, never saw any of them more than 3 times apart from Viviane Miler (6 times) and this other lady about 30 times. That's how much better I thought she was compared to everyone else.

Just can't believe nobody else ever mentioned her unless they were keeping it to themselves.

[QUOTE=CanuckGuy85;2913339]Hi Pakore can you confirm for me while your in Lisbon if Eva Branco is still active or not? I don't see her on EP or Apartadox but some of these girls still see regulars even though they stop advertising. If you can find out for me that would be great.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I didn't find the conversation I had last year. I see this ad has the same number. Try.

[URL]https://secrethostess.com/4075070/[/URL]

She told me back then she was not working those days but recommended a friend of her. Camila.

[URL]https://www.escortgirls.guru/profile/pt/lisbon/escort-privada/camila-pereira[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-yara-cohen-4950[/URL]

As per my friend's impressions:

Quick and pleasent interaction on whatsapp. Friendly in person, in sex it seemed like an act at first which transition to something that resembled genuine desire.

No GFE at all, which to be honest wasn't explicitly requested. The physical interaction is pleasant, but after the orgasm at around 40 minutes mark she basically started acting like her job was done and started getting dressed, which doesn't remotely seem fair for the price.

[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2912983]I've only met Patricia once and dhe is, no doubt, very, very good. But I'm not sure if I would place her in my current Lisbon top 5. A great experience but you never forget you're paying for sex. With the really outstanding ones thet thought never crosses your mind.[/QUOTE]Would you please tell us who the 5 ladies are? Please!

One is certainly.

Inês Vaz. She is simply in a different league. A gem and unique.

But who are the other four?

[QUOTE=Carra2210;2914311]Would you please tell us who the 5 ladies are? Please!

One is certainly.

Inês Vaz. She is simply in a different league. A gem and unique.

But who are the other four?[/QUOTE]

Yes, Inês Vaz is one. And...

Ana / Bia Santos [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/massagista-bia-santos-5091[/URL].

And the MILFs:

Gabriela Sanchez [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-gabriela-sanchez-4468[/URL].

Patrcia Santos [URL]https://www.classificadosx.net/pt/anuncio/20-mulheres-lisboa/421062-patricia-santos[/URL].

Bella Azevedo [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-bella-azevedo-7142[/URL].

I think I reviewed them all here.

[QUOTE=NoTimezone;2914300][URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-yara-cohen-4950[/URL]

As per my friend's impressions:

Quick and pleasent interaction on whatsapp. Friendly in person, in sex it seemed like an act at first which transition to something that resembled genuine desire.

No GFE at all, which to be honest wasn't explicitly requested. The physical interaction is pleasant, but after the orgasm at around 40 minutes mark she basically started acting like her job was done and started getting dressed, which doesn't remotely seem fair for the price.[/QUOTE]I'm not surprised she turned out anticlimactic. Back then I booked her on Whatsapp for the next day after pointing her to a rogue website who were using her pic although she had never herself registered with said website. Having rendered her this little service, I was expecting to be treated fairly the next day but she strung me along and stood me up, probably after a customer extended the session with her.

[QUOTE=Pakore;2914250]Sorry, I didn't find the conversation I had last year. I see this ad has the same number. Try.

[URL]https://secrethostess.com/4075070/[/URL]

She told me back then she was not working those days but recommended a friend of her. Camila.

[URL]https://www.escortgirls.guru/profile/pt/lisbon/escort-privada/camila-pereira[/URL][/QUOTE]Looks like that number isn't active anymore I guess she's not active in the industry anymore, thanks for trying to help though Pakore.

[QUOTE=CanuckGuy85;2915045]Looks like that number isn't active anymore I guess she's not active in the industry anymore, thanks for trying to help though Pakore.[/QUOTE]You are welcome, maybe you can try to ask Camila Pereira, her friend. Last resort. Good luck. I know that feeling of wanting to see the same girl again when it works, It takes the experience to a whole new level.

Missed a couple on our good lists, which is up to 30 or more ladies now.

I had forgotten that Filipa Marques has gotten all 8's and 9's out of ten on the local board. She does all her advertised services with enthusiasm according to the reviews. Mid 20's and perhaps a few pounds heavier than the pics, but reviewed as having a very pretty face.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/filipa-marques/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-filipa-marques-7498[/URL]

On that same topic, Carolina Belmont just put her ad up again. She is reviewed as having a Playboy Bunny body with GFE services. Many reviews say she likes longer-time dinner and social dates and that she speaks excellent English. So she may be a great choice for tourists who want some companionship along with sex this summer. That wouldn't be cheap by Lisbon standards, but it would be by USA And United Kingdom standards.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-carolina-belmont-6095[/URL]

Hey guys,

I'm hoping to try my luck with a new girl this weekend. My usual courtesan, Patricia Navarro, is out of town any I have spent plenty of times with Amanda Marques. She is good but I want something different.

I'm looking for an Incall girl, preferably near the city center (Campo Pequeno or Saldanha), who does BBJTC and allows for multiple pops in the session.

I'm just want to have some fun for 30 minutes. For rates, my limit is 70 Euros for 30 minutes. If she is pretty good, then I am willing to front 80 Euros.

Anyone got some pointers?

Thanks in advance!

Recently travelling to Lisbon where I had an amazing eperience. Found a place in Av Miguel Bombarda in Saldanha. When I arrived there was a selection of three girls. I chose Gabi, a tiny and very kind Brazilian lady. Excellent looking and pefect seduction. First a very sensitiv massage, thereafter amazing oral, followed by playing around before having intercourse in various positions. Costs 120/ HR (or half hour for 60). Phone number ends with xxxxxx966. Would repeat any time.

[QUOTE=Odiacz;2916970]Recently travelling to Lisbon where I had an amazing eperience. Found a place in Av Miguel Bombarda in Saldanha. When I arrived there was a selection of three girls. I chose Gabi, a tiny and very kind Brazilian lady. Excellent looking and pefect seduction. First a very sensitiv massage, thereafter amazing oral, followed by playing around before having intercourse in various positions. Costs 120/ HR (or half hour for 60). Phone number ends with xxxxxx966. Would repeat any time.[/QUOTE]How did you first find this place?

[QUOTE=RobotoVoice;2916924]Hey guys,

I'm hoping to try my luck with a new girl this weekend. My usual courtesan, Patricia Navarro, is out of town any I have spent plenty of times with Amanda Marques. She is good but I want something different.

I'm looking for an Incall girl, preferably near the city center (Campo Pequeno or Saldanha), who does BBJTC and allows for multiple pops in the session.

I'm just want to have some fun for 30 minutes. For rates, my limit is 70 Euros for 30 minutes. If she is pretty good, then I am willing to front 80 Euros.

Anyone got some pointers?

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]You might want to be the first on ISG to give Morgana a try. She has been lighting up the local board with 7 through 10 out of ten reviews from guys who greatly appreciate the providers holding the rates to the old 60 euros for 30 minutes and 120 euros for 60 minutes, and she gets praise from the reviewers about her BBBJTC. She has the bigger Brazilian body like Patricia Navarro does.

[URL]https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/morgana[/URL]

[URL]https://gostosas.pt/escort/morgana-lisboa[/URL]

As mentioned previously, for guys liking the slimmer bodies, Lara Shulthz has always had a big following on the local board from guys who say her BBBJTC is the best in town for short sessions that include an excellent massage. Her latest prices on the recent reviews are in your stated range, but with inflation you need to ask first.

[URL]https://www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhante/LaraShulthz[/URL]

Both Morgana and Lara provide CFS as part of the session, also.

When is the best fall months to visit Lisbon? September, October, or November. Looking to meet some of the ladies on the sites and looking to avoid a slow time. I am refreshing my Portuguese now.

[QUOTE=Shavani20;2917931]When is the best fall months to visit Lisbon? September, October, or November. Looking to meet some of the ladies on the sites and looking to avoid a slow time. I am refreshing my Portuguese now.[/QUOTE]In November you are more likely to get lousy weather, apart from that not much difference. Googling for major events in town ahead of your trip is a good idea though.

[QUOTE=Shavani20;2917931]When is the best fall months to visit Lisbon? September, October, or November. Looking to meet some of the ladies on the sites and looking to avoid a slow time. I am refreshing my Portuguese now.[/QUOTE]The ladies are locals and long-term visitors from Brazil and Northern Africa. Mostly locals. So there is no slow time when it comes to the ladies, unlike in Germany when the Romanians make the trek back home, especially to worship Jesus around the various Easters. As with all of Europe, summer vacations are a big thing, so some of the young ladies take several weeks off to travel in the summer.

November is colder than the other two months, but it doesn't snow in Lisbon or anything like that in November. They grow oranges and have sequoia trees a bit south of the city, so weather isn't that big of a factor. Sometimes some fog in November and December can make the coastal hiking even more scenic.

[QUOTE=XXL;2917947]In November you are more likely to get lousy weather, apart from that not much difference. Googling for major events in town ahead of your trip is a good idea though.[/QUOTE]It's a tricky business to try to guess how the weather is likely to be at such a distance. There have been amazing Summer-like Novembers. But, as a rule, I would bet on September or October.

Hello community. Thanks everyone for sharing his experience in this topic, it was really helpful.

I will be in Lisbon in late June, and already selected some gorgeous girls to visit.

The only concern I have is how safe is to do OWO with some well-reviewed girls (like Amanda Marques for example).

I have never did that, but looks like everyone else does. How they protect themselves to not get STI, and how to be protected?

I heard some girls are using sort of antiseptic sprays before that.

(I know that I can just do it with condom, but nothing can compare with nasty BBJ with CIM.

Thanks for advices in advance.

[QUOTE=Alex2282;2918985]Hello community. Thanks everyone for sharing his experience in this topic, it was really helpful.

I will be in Lisbon in late June, and already selected some gorgeous girls to visit.

The only concern I have is how safe is to do OWO with some well-reviewed girls (like Amanda Marques for example).

I have never did that, but looks like everyone else does. How they protect themselves to not get STI, and how to be protected?

I heard some girls are using sort of antiseptic sprays before that.

(I know that I can just do it with condom, but nothing can compare with nasty BBJ with CIM.

Thanks for advices in advance.[/QUOTE]Contracting an STD as a male from receiving a BBBJ is damn near close to impossible.

The primary reason that condoms are used for oral sex is that the ejaculate can in rare cases infect the throat. Many ladies spit, and those who swallow often do so quickly and drink water immediately afterwards.

Before years of practical data was available, social scientists were pretty adamant about condoms for oral sex. The data no longer supports that. Of course if a lady says no CIM (due to the very tiny risk to her) we need to respect that.

The various viral loads are much, much higher in vaginal fluid than in saliva. So BBFS varies relatively greater risks than BBBJ.

[QUOTE=Alex2282;2918985]The only concern I have is how safe is to do OWO with some well-reviewed girls (like Amanda Marques for example).

I have never did that, but looks like everyone else does. How they protect themselves to not get STI, and how to be protected? (...)
(I know that I can just do it with condom, but nothing can compare with nasty BBJ with CIM.[/QUOTE]If you do it with a condom, it is not OWO. If you want OWO, it will be useful to know that STD infections transmited through oral sex are statistically irrelevant.

Does anyone have names of any Lisbon escorts, especially those on EP, who are happy to be paid extra for a little iphone video to be made please? This might help me from being disappointed! Thanks very much.

[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2919152]If you do it with a condom, it is not OWO. If you want OWO, it will be useful to know that STD infections transmited through oral sex are statistically irrelevant.[/QUOTE]Don't deepthroat someone with a cold or similar viral respiratory diseases though; these things, as it turned out, might get stuck in your lower regions.

Hi everyone,

I am brand new at this and wanted to learn more about the massage places in Lisbon. Did anyone tried tantric, nuru and lingam? What do they entail? Are they "happy ending" massages? Is the difference how you arrive at the ending? Do the massages include BJ or penetration? What are the prices? Do they let extra ball?

I found these following places quite enticing but did anyone tried these or could recommend others?

[URL]https://www.nuruspas.com/en[/URL]

[URL]https://www.massagememlisboa.pt/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.genuine-tantric.com/en[/URL]

[URL]https://massagem-sensual.com/en/massagistas_femininas/[/URL]

[URL]https://fullspa.pt/en/massagistas/[/URL]

Sorry for multiple questions, I just got really excited thinking about this and thank you all in advance.

During my trip to Lisbon I saw Renata Alves of ApartadoX and EscortPrivada: [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-renata-alves-8453[/URL] for 1 HR. Didn't wait long for her to show up, like 10 minutes. Since the hotel requires key card to use elevator I had to meet her at the entrance before I take her to her room. In real life, she looks similar to her pictures, but rougher and little skinner. Don't know if does any kind of drugs. She claims to be same age as the profile. When we got to the room I paid her and took a shower with her before doing the deed at bed. While she is not the most attractive girl, she make it up with her skills. She is GFE, including OWO. We did few positions before finishing with mix of oral and HJ as I had trouble cumming (haven't paid in a while). She had a dodo too. Her English skills are ok, but she is not proficient, so Portuguese would be useful. She stayed the whole hour by the time she left. I wouldn't see her again due to lack of attractiveness, but I think she is good at what she does. BTW, my first choice was Lisa Mendes, but she couldn't see me until the next night, but she recommend her friend Emilia Vilanova ([URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-emilia-vilanova-8090[/URL]), who was available that night and tempted to see, but I couldn't find anything about her on ISG, and the local Portuguese forum wouldn't allow searches unless you pay. Another girl I was interested in that night was Claudia Nascimento ([URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-claudia-nascimento-5742[/URL]), but again no info about her. I admit I'm not as interested in "paying" as I was in the past, and I'm more risk adverse these days.

Sorry for the typos BTW.

In my last trip in Lisbon next week I decided to meet at least two girls among those recommended in this group who most met my expectations: a slender black girl, with great oral skills, and if possible, anal. Following the comments and suggestions of Mongerer88, my first choice fell on Rebecca Diniz. As soon as I met Rebecca, I decided that I wouldn't see any other girls and that I would spend my limited free time and money with her.

Rebecca is a beautiful Portuguese woman of Angolan origin but, most importantly, she is a pleasant person. She hosts in a nice apartment near the Saldana metro stop. Her repertoire is complete, and her strong point, in my opinion, is anal sex. She does it with pleasure and without any problem. Her oral skills are also among the best I have ever received. She has some tattoos on her body, but nothing excessive, and they do not bother me, at least.

What will impress me the most about her is her positive energy, her ability to converse, and her pleasant demeanor. I really hope to meet her again.

[QUOTE=Traveler90;2920645]Hi everyone,

I am brand new at this and wanted to learn more about the massage places in Lisbon. Did anyone tried tantric, nuru and lingam? What do they entail? Are they "happy ending" massages? Is the difference how you arrive at the ending? Do the massages include BJ or penetration? What are the prices? Do they let extra ball?

I found these following places quite enticing but did anyone tried these or could recommend others?

[URL]https://www.nuruspas.com/en[/URL]

[URL]https://www.massagememlisboa.pt/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.genuine-tantric.com/en[/URL]

[URL]https://massagem-sensual.com/en/massagistas_femininas/[/URL]

[URL]https://fullspa.pt/en/massagistas/[/URL]

Sorry for multiple questions, I just got really excited thinking about this and thank you all in advance.[/QUOTE]Hi again,

After much consideration, I am genuinely thinking about Genuine Tantric (pun intended) since they have the prettiest listings (especially Saldanha location). However, I also read in the forum that in reality not all of the masseuses are actually working there. So before the trip I wanted to check whether anyone went there recently and how was their experience? Also how is their pricing since I have limited funds for this. I don't care / want full service but care about the erotic experience in general. I am thinking about relaxation massage 1 to 1:30 hours with Cleo or Manu. I am hoping that 90 minutes will get extra balls / shots. I would really appreciate any guidance on this location.

The two masseuses that I am interested:

[URL]https://www.genuine-tantric.com/en/masseurs/female-masseurs/cleo[/URL]

[URL]https://www.genuine-tantric.com/en/masseurs/female-masseurs/manu[/URL]

[QUOTE=Traveler90;2921631]Hi again,

After much consideration, I am genuinely thinking about Genuine Tantric (pun intended) since they have the prettiest listings (especially Saldanha location). However, I also read in the forum that in reality not all of the masseuses are actually working there. So before the trip I wanted to check whether anyone went there recently and how was their experience? Also how is their pricing since I have limited funds for this. I don't care / want full service but care about the erotic experience in general. I am thinking about relaxation massage 1 to 1:30 hours with Cleo or Manu. I am hoping that 90 minutes will get extra balls / shots. I would really appreciate any guidance on this location.

The two masseuses that I am interested:

[URL]https://www.genuine-tantric.com/en/masseurs/female-masseurs/cleo[/URL]

[URL]https://www.genuine-tantric.com/en/masseurs/female-masseurs/manu[/URL][/QUOTE]Genuine is certainly the spa with the highest fees. They are beautiful women, but only a few can actually massage.

I recommend you take an Uber and drive a little to the edge of Lisbon.

If you want to experience real sensuality, tenderness and massage art, visit Sol. It is a perfect choice and the cost is significantly lower.

[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/sol/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Traveler90;2920645]Hi everyone,

I am brand new at this and wanted to learn more about the massage places in Lisbon. Did anyone tried tantric, nuru and lingam? What do they entail? Are they "happy ending" massages? Is the difference how you arrive at the ending? Do the massages include BJ or penetration? What are the prices? Do they let extra ball?

I found these following places quite enticing but did anyone tried these or could recommend others?

[URL]https://www.nuruspas.com/en[/URL]

[URL]https://www.massagememlisboa.pt/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.genuine-tantric.com/en[/URL]

[URL]https://massagem-sensual.com/en/massagistas_femininas/[/URL]

[URL]https://fullspa.pt/en/massagistas/[/URL]

Sorry for multiple questions, I just got really excited thinking about this and thank you all in advance.[/QUOTE]Never tired any of them, but I tired Lotus Massage during my trip to Lisbon over 3 weeks ago:[URL]https://www.lotusmassage.pt/.[/URL] I picked Aurora, a Portuguese girl in early 20's, based on her photos and report on the local forum. She looks like her online pictures, with a pretty face and tits:[URL]https://www.lotusmassage.pt/aurora/.[/URL] I had the Lotus Shower massage, which is shower together+body to body message. It was a nice sensual B2 B message, with mutual touching and body kisses, but no oral or french kissing (she did kiss around the genital area I think), finishing with one of the best handjobs. The only minor problem I had is the cost, which was 160 for one hour. But it was worth it. The parlor is located in Parque das Naes neighborhood, but GMaps and CityMaps put in the wrong directions for some reason. The parlor is located south of Oriente train station past the roundabout, about a 4 minute walk according to GMaps.

[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2918013]It's a tricky business to try to guess how the weather is likely to be at such a distance. There have been amazing Summer-like Novembers. But, as a rule, I would bet on September or October.[/QUOTE]Where is the most convenient area to stay in Lisbon? Ribeira das Naus, Bairro Alto, city center, or old town. First trip in September. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Carra2210;2921723]Genuine is certainly the spa with the highest fees. They are beautiful women, but only a few can actually massage.

I recommend you take an Uber and drive a little to the edge of Lisbon.

If you want to experience real sensuality, tenderness and massage art, visit Sol. It is a perfect choice and the cost is significantly lower.

[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/sol/[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BaltiX;2922017]Never tired any of them, but I tired Lotus Massage during my trip to Lisbon over 3 weeks ago:[URL]https://www.lotusmassage.pt/.[/URL] I picked Aurora, a Portuguese girl in early 20's, based on her photos and report on the local forum. She looks like her online pictures, with a pretty face and tits:[URL]https://www.lotusmassage.pt/aurora/.[/URL] I had the Lotus Shower massage, which is shower together+body to body message. It was a nice sensual B2 B message, with mutual touching and body kisses, but no oral or french kissing (she did kiss around the genital area I think), finishing with one of the best handjobs. The only minor problem I had is the cost, which was 160 for one hour. But it was worth it. The parlor is located in Parque das Naes neighborhood, but GMaps and CityMaps put in the wrong directions for some reason. The parlor is located south of Oriente train station past the roundabout, about a 4 minute walk according to GMaps.[/QUOTE]Thank you both!

What was the cost for Sol?

I just checked Lotus massage website Aurora seems like a great option.

I overheard some people talking about Lisbon, I heard the name of a club called white elephant, after looking up it has lots of mixed reviews, trying to plan a trip here real soon, also from reading way back all I see is everything is pretty much threw agents, is their any club seen at all (or area) where working girls hang out? Also in between starting out staying either barrio alto or in Chiado! Thanks in advance for any and all suggestions and information about Lisbon — Porto!

In my opinion, there are very good hotels near the Campo Pequeno and Saldanha metro stops. Many beatiful girls also work near these areas (Rebeca Diniz, Amanda Marquez, Patricia Navarro, Yola Lopez, etc.).

[QUOTE=Shavani20;2922022]Where is the most convenient area to stay in Lisbon? Ribeira das Naus, Bairro Alto, city center, or old town. First trip in September. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Traveler90;2922035]Thank you both!

What was the cost for Sol?

I just checked Lotus massage website Aurora seems like a great option.[/QUOTE]I had booked Sol for 120 minutes and paid €220.00. It was a firework of tenderness and sensuality.

[QUOTE=RacShack;2922042]I overheard some people talking about Lisbon, I heard the name of a club called white elephant, after looking up it has lots of mixed reviews, trying to plan a trip here real soon, also from reading way back all I see is everything is pretty much threw agents, is their any club seen at all (or area) where working girls hang out? Also in between starting out staying either barrio alto or in Chiado! Thanks in advance for any and all suggestions and information about Lisbon Porto![/QUOTE]Lisbon works a lot differently than South America or Germany does, which is why the posters here try to do, and / or convey from the local board, reviews with information about specific ladies. There really aren't even agents in Portugal. The independents do their own communications and bookings, and the ladies working with Escort Privada have chosen to join a group that does the administrative tasks for them.

The clubs like the one you mentioned often draw the very independents reviewed here who have the energy to go look for a meal and a few drinks at night. They often charge more at the clubs than at their incalls. The clubs don't have rooms for sex. They are upscale places with food and alcohol. There are relatively more reviews of ladies taken back to the hotels from these clubs who do CBJ only in comparison to reviews of the ladies mentioned in this forum. So they seem to draw some amateurs who really don't want to compete and do sex work at a high level.

Give what Lisbon has to offer a chance. Book some of the reviewed ladies after studying their profiles. The reviews aren't fake. You can have a great time after doing your homework even if the first time you see her in person is when the door opens.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2922258]Lisbon works a lot differently than South America or Germany does, which is why the posters here try to do, and / or convey from the local board, reviews with information about specific ladies. There really aren't even agents in Portugal. The independents do their own communications and bookings, and the ladies working with Escort Privada have chosen to join a group that does the administrative tasks for them.

The clubs like the one you mentioned often draw the very independents reviewed here who have the energy to go look for a meal and a few drinks at night. They often charge more at the clubs than at their incalls. The clubs don't have rooms for sex. They are upscale places with food and alcohol. There are relatively more reviews of ladies taken back to the hotels from these clubs who do CBJ only in comparison to reviews of the ladies mentioned in this forum. So they seem to draw some amateurs who really don't want to compete and do sex work at a high level.

Give what Lisbon has to offer a chance. Book some of the reviewed ladies after studying their profiles. The reviews aren't fake. You can have a great time after doing your homework even if the first time you see her in person is when the door opens.[/QUOTE]Thanks Monger88 for your response, I will give it a try, I've been around and like the meeting in person more, but will go with the flow bud, I appreciate your time, any good hotel recommendations want location location location for fun and nightlife, considering either Chiado or Bairro alto! If you can think of any good information for a first time visitor I again appreciate! Is their any no rip off type of strip club over their? Also really going just to get off my bucket list trip, but if can get some good play time it will be a bonus!!

[QUOTE=RacShack;2922284]Thanks Monger88 for your response, I will give it a try, I've been around and like the meeting in person more, but will go with the flow bud, I appreciate your time, any good hotel recommendations want location location location for fun and nightlife, considering either Chiado or Bairro alto! If you can think of any good information for a first time visitor I again appreciate! Is their any no rip off type of strip club over their? Also really going just to get off my bucket list trip, but if can get some good play time it will be a bonus!![/QUOTE]I've been to Elephante Branco bar over the last 10 years more or less. And it's more a upscale place where you wear a blazer and hang out in the bar with girls. Ofc girls drinks cost, entrance cost (usually 50 euro) etc etc.

If you are hunting for women in Prada dresses and can pay for it this is the place. But honestly Lisbon is much better hunting among independents. I only go to EP exactly one night each time I visit due to living nearby and getting bored want to do something else.

Ladies will dress nice but not necessarily look better or perform better than independents. So unless hanging in expensive bars dressing up a bit is your thing, you should avoid EP all together.

Lisbon is a very special place such that there are no sleazy stripjoints or "degrading women places as meat markets". But it's full of elegant fresh and nice independent women. So if you like the hunt for diamonds it's a top place for sure. But if you want to go to clubs and see professional women playing their act it's not the correct place.

[QUOTE=RandomWanderer;2922526]I've been to Elephante Branco bar over the last 10 years more or less. And it's more a upscale place where you wear a blazer and hang out in the bar with girls. Ofc girls drinks cost, entrance cost (usually 50 euro) etc etc.

If you are hunting for women in Prada dresses and can pay for it this is the place. But honestly Lisbon is much better hunting among independents. I only go to EP exactly one night each time I visit due to living nearby and getting bored want to do something else.

Ladies will dress nice but not necessarily look better or perform better than independents. So unless hanging in expensive bars dressing up a bit is your thing, you should avoid EP all together.

Lisbon is a very special place such that there are no sleazy stripjoints or "degrading women places as meat markets". But it's full of elegant fresh and nice independent women. So if you like the hunt for diamonds it's a top place for sure. But if you want to go to clubs and see professional women playing their act it's not the correct place.[/QUOTE]Yes that's what I'm reading about the overpriced EP I appreciate your input bud, I'm more going to see the special city, but looking at all options if want to spice it up a bit, I'm definitely not into what you describe about the hustle clubs, any suggestions on places to stay with amazing location? Any and all recommendations would be greatly appreciated! I'm either starting out in chiado or Bairro alto as of now! And then travel around for a couple weeks!

Went to Elephante Branco last night (Friday), which is apparently a good night to go along with Thursday. I arrived about 8:30, and paid a 50 euro *cash-only* entry fee. I asked the guy at the door when the girls arrive, and he said they're supposed to all be there by 10:30-11 pm. Most of them were eating while I was there (I left at 10:30 pm), preparing for a long night of pretending to be interested in what drunk guys have to talk about: the.

I was approached by a number of Brazilian girls, and as is customary for me in a new club, I ended up speaking with an older one to get info about how things work. Older for me means 30 ish. There are two types of lady drinks, costing 25 and 50 euros, plus champagne which costs 300. The girls don't get a cut, but they're required to have a drink in order to talk to a guy or to leave the club, which makes sense to me. Towards the end of our discussion the girls got a little pushy about threesome, drinks, etc. And I shut things down quickly as I don't appreciate the kind of pressure. I should mention that my experience was colored by the fact that I speak Portuguese decently, I don't think the Brazilians would be able to speak much English.

I met a pleasant Russian girl (body quite average) who spoke great English, but overall was not impressed by the girls. They skewed towards the over 25 and high mileage demographic, excluding maybe one younger girl who didn't appeal to me. You can see the over 25 demographic in Brazilians quite easily, as the usually wonderful posterior expands to become way too big. Before leaving, I saw a girl who looked exactly like an escort whose ad I saw online and happened to be the most appealing girl in the club to my eyes. We talked and sure enough, it was her, and despite her being "younger" she had this high mileage pro vibe which didn't appeal to me. He ad online asked for 300 euros, and in the club she asked for 350 (so 300 + entry fee). I didn't get any other price quotes, but it seems like they should be around there. Meaning the more reasonable than Pigmalion in Madrid (where asking is 500), despite having a very similar vibe and composition of girls.

Overall, as everyone said before, Lisbon is a city for independents with online ads. This place, as a gentleman's club, would be nice for variety or even better if you have some friends in town and want to meet in a cool place to hang out. It's nice to have such places, but far and away from the top option. Until I find a nice girl on Seeking, I've found two girls who seem like semi-pros on EuroGirlEscort and will be sampling them next.

Dose anyone have a recommendation for a couple good hotel options with amazing location location? Any suggestions or knowledge will be greatly appreciated, probably starting out in Chiado or Bairro alto, thanks!

I have not read the forum before I hit the massage places in Lisbon.

I have my other favorite cities for mongering but Lisbon is one of favorite big cities for traveling. I can spend weeks walking the streets. Love the city.

I chose Genuine Tantric as it was walking distance to the Eurostars hotel in Baixa I was staying at. Went in at 6 PM. It is an all Brazilian girl place. I chose Gingin or Jinjin. I.

She said she is 22. Not talkative, which I like. I chose 150 euro body to body it was amazing. I have a lot of massage experience and this was up there in sensuality. She allowed fingers and lot of breast play as long as you are gentle.

I went back the next day. More on that and more details about massage later.

[QUOTE=RacShack;2923103]Dose anyone have a recommendation for a couple good hotel options with amazing location location? Any suggestions or knowledge will be greatly appreciated, probably starting out in Chiado or Bairro alto, thanks![/QUOTE]Sorry you aren't getting responses.

What is likely happening is that a lot of English language posters either use hotel loyalty points on stays or stay at hotels near the convention area.

Portugal is very welcoming to foreign individuals, but behind the scenes must be wary of multinational corporations. The big western chain hotels are very near each other in the convention area or by the airport.

The neighborhoods you mention have small boutique locally owned hotels.

That having been said, Lisbon is the most compact European capital you will ever see, with most everything within 5 to 10 miles of each other. And Uber is inexpensive.

The one western chain that seems to be allowed to have locations throughout the city is Holiday Inn. I have been very impressed with the Lisbon Holiday Inns I have stayed at. They didn't give up the principles the original founder laid out for his hotels, like the USA Franchisees have. The old guy would turn over in his grave at how far the USA Holiday Inns have fallen. But in Lisbon's Holiday Inns, I have always gotten a nice big clean room, early check-in and late check-out, and friendly service. All Lisbon hotels are girl-friendly, but at the Holiday Inns they pay no attention to a pretty girl walking around and heading up to a room.

Here are some of them near the neighborhoods of interest.

[URL]https://www.hotelplanner.com/57481-Brand/Holiday-Inn-Hotels-in-Bairro-Alto-Portugal[/URL]#dir-bar.

The Emarald House is a a Hilton hotel that was allowed out of the convention area, and I found it to be an excellent hotel. I got outcall, but Rebeca Diniz said it wasn't all that far from her incall, so that might mean it isn't far from the incall of other ladies. It was very near some art and historical museums.

[QUOTE=RacShack;2923103]Dose anyone have a recommendation for a couple good hotel options with amazing location location? Any suggestions or knowledge will be greatly appreciated, probably starting out in Chiado or Bairro alto, thanks![/QUOTE]For hotel options close to Chiado and Bairro Alto check out Hotel Mundial it's a decent 4 star hotel located in the Baixa area so your withing walking distance of everything in downtown Lisbon and you also have both Rossio and Martim Moniz metro stations less than a 5 minute walk to the hotel. Buffet breakfast is good and the hotel also has a nice rooftop bar where you can have a drink and relax in the evening with a great view of Lisbon. Only downside to this hotel is that Martim Moniz square is close by and that square can get sketchy at night with homeless people and druggies but you have no reason to be walking around that square at night and the area is perfectly safe during the day. I've stayed at this hotel 3 times and it's location can't be beat and if you decide to have outcalls come to your room a key card is not required you just tell them the room number and they can come straight up. Hotel Marques De Pombal on Avenida de Liberdade is another 4 start hotel located in a great central area of Lisbon you can check out as well.

[QUOTE=CanuckGuy85;2923391]For hotel options close to Chiado and Bairro Alto check out Hotel Mundial it's a decent 4 star hotel located in the Baixa area so your withing walking distance of everything in downtown Lisbon and you also have both Rossio and Martim Moniz metro stations less than a 5 minute walk to the hotel. Buffet breakfast is good and the hotel also has a nice rooftop bar where you can have a drink and relax in the evening with a great view of Lisbon. Only downside to this hotel is that Martim Moniz square is close by and that square can get sketchy at night with homeless people and druggies but you have no reason to be walking around that square at night and the area is perfectly safe during the day. I've stayed at this hotel 3 times and it's location can't be beat and if you decide to have outcalls come to your room a key card is not required you just tell them the room number and they can come straight up. Hotel Marques De Pombal on Avenida de Liberdade is another 4 start hotel located in a great central area of Lisbon you can check out as well.[/QUOTE]Thanks for taking time to try and help with hotel accommodation bud, however both are between 15 -20 min walk to where I want to be, I appreciate your input bud! And thanks for everyone else chiming in and trying! I'm still looking and welcome all suggestions, oh and from what I'm reading Uber is the best ride share app to use to get around over there? And best way from airport is to grab a cab from the departing level?

The next day I went to Wyayang Spa. But I went early, like around 11:30 AM and they have just opened. There's only one lady and she seem like the mamasan. Not attractive at all. She showed me the price list, with lot of options and overall a bit more expensive than Genuine T. She asked me to make an appointment with the ladies from the website. She said no one was available on site. In general, I prefer not to make appointments based on website photos. I left. Few hours later, I went to genuine Tantric again.

This time I was greeted by Anna / Enna. Also Brazilian. Great natural tits. Bit more talkative. Slightly older, probably close to 30. She did a pretty good body to body. She offered a prostate massage. Which I kindly rejected. She did not allow me fingering her. Which was fine. And overall I had a good experience but I preferred Gingin, who I saw the first day.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;2923185]I have not read the forum before I hit the massage places in Lisbon.

I have my other favorite cities for mongering but Lisbon is one of favorite big cities for traveling. I can spend weeks walking the streets. Love the city.

I chose Genuine Tantric as it was walking distance to the Eurostars hotel in Baixa I was staying at. Went in at 6 PM. It is an all Brazilian girl place. I chose Gingin or Jinjin. I.

She said she is 22. Not talkative, which I like. I chose 150 euro body to body it was amazing. I have a lot of massage experience and this was up there in sensuality. She allowed fingers and lot of breast play as long as you are gentle.

I went back the next day. More on that and more details about massage later.[/QUOTE]Is GT full sex?

CT's website do not talk about the price, please share the info.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;2923761]The next day I went to Wyayang Spa. But I went early, like around 11:30 AM and they have just opened. There's only one lady and she seem like the mamasan. Not attractive at all. She showed me the price list, with lot of options and overall a bit more expensive than Genuine T. She asked me to make an appointment with the ladies from the website. She said no one was available on site. In general, I prefer not to make appointments based on website photos. I left. Few hours later, I went to genuine Tantric again.

This time I was greeted by Anna / Enna. Also Brazilian. Great natural tits. Bit more talkative. Slightly older, probably close to 30. She did a pretty good body to body. She offered a prostate massage. Which I kindly rejected. She did not allow me fingering her. Which was fine. And overall I had a good experience but I preferred Gingin, who I saw the first day.[/QUOTE]

No, not at all. Vitrea below did well to get breast play and fingering. Plenty of others have reported coming away from Genuine Tantric not allowed to even touch. It's not a place I'd recommend.

Your best bet for a massage which includes FS is the Nuru Spa ([URL]https://www.nuruspas.com[/URL]). You'll need to ask which masseuses offer a 'relaxing massage', which is code speak for FS. Normally 2 or 3 ladies on the roster will be available for a relaxing massage. Occasionally people have reported having no luck with the receptionist when asking for a relaxing massage, but most of the time it seems to be available. You're looking at around e180 for the service at Nuru Spa, from when I enquired last year (may have changed now). More expensive than standard escort incall prices, but if the masseuse is skilled at sensual massage, it could be something a bit different.

The other massage place where FS may be available if L'essence ([URL]https://lessence.pt/[/URL]). They are based in Alfragide now. Don't know what their prices are.

Overall I find it hard to justify the massage prices in Lisbon, at places like Genuine Tantric, as they are at least as much as booking an incall escort for FS. Massage should be cheaper than FS in my opinion.

[QUOTE=ElTacoShmacko;2923838]Is GT full sex?[/QUOTE]

Glad you enjoyed the experience. You certainly got a bit more interaction than most on your first visit with Gingin.

The place has mixed reviews (mainly not great).

[QUOTE=Vitrea;2923761]The next day I went to Wyayang Spa. But I went early, like around 11:30 AM and they have just opened. There's only one lady and she seem like the mamasan. Not attractive at all. She showed me the price list, with lot of options and overall a bit more expensive than Genuine T. She asked me to make an appointment with the ladies from the website. She said no one was available on site. In general, I prefer not to make appointments based on website photos. I left. Few hours later, I went to genuine Tantric again.

This time I was greeted by Anna / Enna. Also Brazilian. Great natural tits. Bit more talkative. Slightly older, probably close to 30. She did a pretty good body to body. She offered a prostate massage. Which I kindly rejected. She did not allow me fingering her. Which was fine. And overall I had a good experience but I preferred Gingin, who I saw the first day.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RacShack;2923718]Thanks for taking time to try and help with hotel accommodation bud, however both are between 15 -20 min walk to where I want to be, I appreciate your input bud! And thanks for everyone else chiming in and trying! I'm still looking and welcome all suggestions, oh and from what I'm reading Uber is the best ride share app to use to get around over there? And best way from airport is to grab a cab from the departing level?[/QUOTE]Yes Uber is the best ride share app to get around in Lisbon. Lisbon is not a big city so the central part of it is fairly small your fine getting around using a combination of Uber, the metro and walking. As for when you arrive at the airport just take a cab to your hotel but make sure the driver switches the cab meter on so your not getting ripped off.

[QUOTE=CanuckGuy85;2923973]Yes Uber is the best ride share app to get around in Lisbon. Lisbon is not a big city so the central part of it is fairly small your fine getting around using a combination of Uber, the metro and walking. As for when you arrive at the airport just take a cab to your hotel but make sure the driver switches the cab meter on so your not getting ripped off.[/QUOTE]I got ripped off by one of those airport drivers. My mistake was letting him store my luggage in the trunk before asking about the fare and/or the meter. Do not let them grab your luggage before negotiating! I paid 30 euros to my hotel near Picoas underground station. I was later told it should have cost between 10 and 15 euros.

[QUOTE=XXL;2924072]I got ripped off by one of those airport drivers. My mistake was letting him store my luggage in the trunk before asking about the fare and/or the meter. Do not let them grab your luggage before negotiating! I paid 30 euros to my hotel near Picoas underground station. I was later told it should have cost between 10 and 15 euros.[/QUOTE]That happened to me too once I was charged 25 euros from the airport to the Airbnb I was staying at in central Lisbon and realized I was ripped off when my Airbnb host told me the same thing that it should cost between 10 to 15 euros depending on the traffic, also the charge for storing luggage is 1. 60 euros no matter how many pieces of luggage you have it's a 1. 60 euro flat fee. However apparently now you can call an Uber at the kiss and fly area outside of terminal 1 departures once you exit the baggage claim and customs area and go outside across the parking lot didn't know about that until now so grab an Uber from there RacShack and forget about using a taxi and running the risk of getting ripped off.

[QUOTE=ElTacoShmacko;2923838]Is GT full sex?[/QUOTE]I did not ask directly. But I would say no. Definitely not for first timers. Even if one of the providers agrees to it on a case by case basis, I'm willing to bet that the price would be very expensive.

[QUOTE=Harry1217;2923946]No, not at all. Vitrea below did well to get breast play and fingering. Plenty of others have reported coming away from Genuine Tantric not allowed to even touch. It's not a place I'd recommend.
……..[/QUOTE]I am really glad to hear this that I got more than what people reported about this place. I must've gotten lucky. I gave her a reverse massage with genuine interest. That probably could've helped also.

[QUOTE=Harry1217;2923946]No, not at all. Vitrea below did well to get breast play and fingering. Plenty of others have reported coming away from Genuine Tantric not allowed to even touch. It's not a place I'd recommend.

Your best bet for a massage which includes FS is the Nuru Spa ([URL]https://www.nuruspas.com[/URL]). You'll need to ask which masseuses offer a 'relaxing massage', which is code speak for FS. Normally 2 or 3 ladies on the roster will be available for a relaxing massage. Occasionally people have reported having no luck with the receptionist when asking for a relaxing massage, but most of the time it seems to be available. You're looking at around e180 for the service at Nuru Spa, from when I enquired last year (may have changed now). More expensive than standard escort incall prices, but if the masseuse is skilled at sensual massage, it could be something a bit different.

The other massage place where FS may be available if L'essence ([URL]https://lessence.pt/[/URL]). They are based in Alfragide now. Don't know what their prices are.

Overall I find it hard to justify the massage prices in Lisbon, at places like Genuine Tantric, as they are at least as much as booking an incall escort for FS. Massage should be cheaper than FS in my opinion.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much for your pointers re the other massage places. Really appreciate it for my next trip. One thing I did learn in my brief visit to Lisbon is that the Nuru Massage does not actually have the Nuru gel. They do body to body massage with lots of oil and call it Nuru. The traditional Japanese Nuru is hard to find outside of Asia.

By the way, my second massage experience at GT, the lady did a great body to body massage and allowed a lot of breast play but strictly no fingering. No complaints from me :-).

Visited Lisbon for a few weeks in May and had a great time, been meaning to post reviews of the ladies I saw there so here we go. Thanks to the information on the Lisbon forum here and the local Portuguese boards I had no bad experiences with any of the women that I saw and would highly recommend all of them. First off is Morgana Cruz a beautiful curvy busty Brazilian of Italian descent. Booked her for 2 hours at her incall location and had a great time with her, beautiful face with a great set of big natural tits and a nice big ass. Her body is curvy and might not be everyone's cup of tea if you like slimmer women but I don't mind a little bit of extra meat and I wouldn't call her fat in my opinion. She gets great reviews on the local board and I can see why, very friendly pleasant attitude and she does everything to try and please you. Service with her included lots of DFK too which I like, DATY was nice and clean and her BBBJ is fantastic. Had sex with her in multiple positions and managed to get 3 rounds with her in the 2 hours I spent with her in cowgirl, missionary and doggy as her pussy is pretty tight. Overall had a great time with her and would repeat no problem, only downside with her is that her English is nonexistent but she has no problem using google translate and I can speak some Portuguese and understand most of it so it wasn't really an issue for me. She advertises on apartadox for anyone that is interested.

Next up is Rebeca Diniz a. K. a Becky another favourite on the local board and she has lots of fans here as well and I can see why. She's a good looking Portuguese Angolan mulatta with a fantastic fit body, nice set of natural tits with a fantastic ass and her skin is insanely smooth. She speaks fluent English and has a great friendly personality that puts you at ease as soon as you meet her. Service was great as well as she's ok with DFK, her pussy is nice and clean and tasted great and her BBBJ is great as well and very sensual. Had a 2 hour incall with her and went 2 rounds in CFS with the first one ending in doggy style with a wonderful view of that amazing smooth ass. Had a break and enjoyed talking with her before I went a second round with her in anal this time which started in doggy and than we switched to spooning and finished a 2nd time in her ass and than collapsed on the bed. She can take a good pounding in anal with no complaints and encourages you to give it to her hard. Had a fantastic time with her and would definitely repeat again with her, her ad is back on apartadox again.

Next up is Ines Vaz who has some great reviews on the local board and has some fans here as well and I'm going to have to especially thank kama leao for this one. Ines is a petit Portuguese women in her mid 30's I'd say roughly with an average body and looks wise she is average, by no means is she ugly and I actually find her kind of attractive. However when it comes to Ines her body and looks are only minor knocks for me because this women is an absolute firecracker in bad and I had an absolute fantastic time with her. Booked a 2 hour incall with her and she started off with a massage before starting a body slide on me rubbing her body all over my back and kissing my neck until I couldn't take it anymore and turned around and than the fireworks began. Started off with some intense DFK before I decided to start some DATY on her and after eating her pussy and licking her clit it wasn't long before her pussy was soaking wet and she was squirming and had to get me to stop before she came. She decided to return the favour with some great BBBJ than on came the condom and man can this women fuck! Great cowgirl and reverse cowgirl while she was fingering her clit and seemingly having multiple orgasms as she was riding me and I was doing my best to fuck her from below. Ended the 1st round in cowgirl before we took a little break and her English is perfect and she is very pleasant to talk to. Ended up getting 2 more rounds out of her as this women was just fantastic in the sack tons of DFK and we were like 2 dogs in heat taking turns fucking each other with her in cowgirl fingering her clit as she was riding me and than switching over to missionary as I loved pounding her in that position with our tongues deep in each other's mouths and that's the position I came in the 2 d and 3rd time. This women loves sex and is definitely not a clock watcher as I overstayed my 2 hour incall with her talking with her for a while and lost track of time as I was recuperating after fully draining my balls from 3 intense rounds of sex with her. An absolute gem and a must repeat next time I'm in Lisbon for sure. [URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]

Next up is Flora Neves who I couldn't wait to see judging from the reviews she gets here and I luckily got a hold of her the same day within a few hours of messaging her and set up an appointment for 2 days later. Unfortunately she was only able to come for 1 hour instead of 2 hours instead due to something that came up but that's ok and I went ahead and saw her anyway. I can confirm everything that is said about her she's tall about 5'9" or 5'10" early 20's Portuguese with long curly brunette hair speaks pretty good English and she's got a really cute pretty face, absolutely delighted when I saw her. We hit it off right away and she has a very friendly sweet attitude. She only does outcalls and came to the apartment I was staying at in central Lisbon, took a quick shower when she arrived and the sight of her coming out of the shower topless in lingerie underwear was a sight to behold, this girl has got a great body to go with that cute face. Started off with some great DFK before I moved in for some DATY and she has a nice clean meaty pussy which I loved eating but had to pace myself because I only had 1 hour with her. Moved on to some BBBJ which this girl has some great skills in than on the came the condom and she climbed on top for cowgirl and man is her pussy tight. Fantastic riding in cowgirl as I was alternating between sucking her beautiful perfect tits and kissing her in DFK. Switched to some reverse cowgirl and than finally missionary where I loved fucking that tight pussy the most while DFK her and that's the position I came in. Relaxed and talked with her for a while as we cuddled afterwards and she did stay with me for a little over the hour so she wasn't a clock watcher with me. I'm in my late 30's but I can still pass for being in my late 20's and my ancestry is Portuguese so I feel that helped the chemistry between us and she was very relaxed and in a good mood from the beginning of the session till she left the apartment and the sex was a pretty sensual GFE. I tried repeating with her again while I was in Lisbon but it seems like her WhatsApp business account was off as everyntime I messaged her I didn't get that auto reply back with her list of services and prices like I did the first time and she only does this part-time so it can be hard to get a hold of her sometimes so for anyone that is interested in seeing her it's best to probably message her before you leave for Lisbon to see if she's available. An absolute cute sweetheart and I will definitely try and get a hold of her again if she's still available next time I'm in Lisbon. She had ads in both apartadox and eurogirls when I was in Lisbon but it looks like her apartadox ad is down but her ad on eurogirls is still up.

[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/flora-neves/646062/?list=n6kggpi[/URL]

Last but not least the other girl I saw in Lisbon was Viviane Miler, I had previously seen her in January during my previous brief stay in Lisbon and had such a good time with her I just had to see her again. Managed to get a hold of her a few days after landing in Lisbon and she replied instantly to my WhatsApp message and I booked a 2 hour outcall appointment the following evening with her. I had such a good time with her again that I booked another 2 hour outcall a week later and than a final 2 hour outcall towards the end of my trip in Lisbon. She's well reviewed on this forum and seems to be EP's most popular girl and for good reason I honestly cannot get enough her. For anyone that hasn't seen her Viviane is in her early 20's Brazilian of European ancestry with a really cute pretty face with green bluish eyes that I instantly fell in love with the first time I saw her. An absolutely gorgeous body with long curly brown hair and fantastic tits with a very friendly sweet attitude. She is phenomenal in bed to go along with that cute pretty face and gorgeous body, unlimited deep french kissing is outstanding with her as we literally played tonsil hockey with each other especially in missionary. Her BBBJ is fantastic too and she has such a beautiful clean pink pussy that I just love eating out. She is outstanding in cowgirl as she looked at me with a big smile on her face as she was fucking me and would than lean in for some DFK and than lick my neck which drove me crazy. Managed to get 2 or 3 rounds in with her each time in CFS, I saw her for 2 hours as the sex is pretty intense but still GFE which is my style as I'm a pretty vanilla GFE kind of guy. Afterwards she would cuddle in between rounds and we would chat for a bit, she can speak and understand basic English so between that and my speaking and understanding of some Portuguese communication was fine. She is going to university soon so I don't know if she'll be around for much longer or if she'll try and combine her studies with escorting part-time we'll see but she has plans for the future so I wished her good luck last time I saw her just in case I don't see her again. What more can I see about her except that she is an absolute gem, be respectful with her and treat her well and you will have a fantastic time with her.

To sum it up it up I had a great time in Lisbon and would highly recommend all 5 of the ladies I saw while I was there.

Hello gentleman,

Do you know if Lisbon escorts on apartadox or escortprivada are fine doing outcalls in the Almada area (around the Pragal station) and / or if they are going to raise the rate?.

I am not a Lisbon expert but it seemed that this location was a good compromise on hotel price versus getting into Lisbon relatively easily. But maybe crossing the bridge is a hassle. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Cedricgle;2927422]
Do you know if Lisbon escorts on apartadox or escortprivada are fine doing outcalls in the Almada area (around the Pragal station) and / or if they are going to raise the rate?.

I am not a Lisbon expert but it seemed that this location was a good compromise on hotel price versus getting into Lisbon relatively easily. But maybe crossing the bridge is a hassle. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Almada is not a bad area, yes. I used to live there, its only problem is that it's a little far from the city center. If I remember right, there is no problem with arranging outcalls to that area, but rates will be higher because of taxi costs. I don't remember how much higher though. I personally preferred to go for incalls, they are mostly located around the center.

[QUOTE=Cedricgle;2927422]Hello gentleman,

Do you know if Lisbon escorts on apartadox or escortprivada are fine doing outcalls in the Almada area (around the Pragal station) and / or if they are going to raise the rate?.

I am not a Lisbon expert but it seemed that this location was a good compromise on hotel price versus getting into Lisbon relatively easily. But maybe crossing the bridge is a hassle. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Escort Privada said it is 20 euros extra for outcall to that area.

An experienced reviewer on the big American review board had an excellent time with both of these ladies. He said the pictures are accurate and they provided the advertised services. They come from advertising sites catering a bit more to the tourist and businessperson, so they are a bit more expensive than some independents. They appear from the pics and reviews to both be around 30 despite one advertising as 25 and the other 29 or so. The reviewer seemed to like them equally well.

Giovana Marques.

[URL]https://secrethostess.com/8163138/[/URL]

Lara Queiroz.

[URL]https://ondate.com/female-escorts/364205/lara[/URL]

[URL]https://massagerepublic.com/female-escorts-in-lisbon/lara-queiroz?q%5Bprice_search_lteq%5D=250[/URL]

Thanks to Canuckguy85 for all of those great reports, and particularly for confirming that Ines Vaz is back to offering full service sessions.

Thank you very much for your detailed reports. Apart from Morgana, all of the ladies you saw are well reviewed here. It's pleasing that you had such a good time with them all. Morgana sounds great and I may try and see her myself when I'm next there.

Yes, Flora Neves is not easy to get hold of, as you found in attempting to book again. Her time-keeping and sticking to the agreed meeting time, is also not great. You did very well with all the DFK as plenty of reports have mentioned getting little to none.

[QUOTE=CanuckGuy85;2927015]Visited Lisbon for a few weeks in May and had a great time, been meaning to post reviews of the ladies I saw there so here we go. Thanks to the information on the Lisbon forum here and the local Portuguese boards I had no bad experiences with any of the women that I saw and would highly recommend all of them. First off is Morgana Cruz a beautiful curvy busty Brazilian of Italian descent. Booked her for 2 hours at her incall location and had a great time with her, beautiful face with a great set of big natural tits and a nice big ass. Her body is curvy and might not be everyone's cup of tea if you like slimmer women but I don't mind a little bit of extra meat and I wouldn't call her fat in my opinion. She gets great reviews on the local board and I can see why, very friendly pleasant attitude and she does everything to try and please you. Service with her included lots of DFK too which I like, DATY was nice and clean and her BBBJ is fantastic. Had sex with her in multiple positions and managed to get 3 rounds with her in the 2 hours I spent with her in cowgirl, missionary and doggy as her pussy is pretty tight. Overall had a great time with her and would repeat no problem, only downside with her is that her English is nonexistent but she has no problem using google translate and I can speak some Portuguese and understand most of it so it wasn't really an issue for me. She advertises on apartadox for anyone that is interested.

Next up is Rebeca Diniz a. K. a Becky another favourite on the local board and she has lots of fans here as well and I can see why. She's a good looking Portuguese Angolan mulatta with a fantastic fit body, nice set of natural tits with a fantastic ass and her skin is insanely smooth. She speaks fluent English and has a great friendly personality that puts you at ease as soon as you meet her. Service was great as well as she's ok with DFK, her pussy is nice and clean and tasted great and her BBBJ is great as well and very sensual. Had a 2 hour incall with her and went 2 rounds in CFS with the first one ending in doggy style with a wonderful view of that amazing smooth ass. Had a break and enjoyed talking with her before I went a second round with her in anal this time which started in doggy and than we switched to spooning and finished a 2nd time in her ass and than collapsed on the bed. She can take a good pounding in anal with no complaints and encourages you to give it to her hard. Had a fantastic time with her and would definitely repeat again with her, her ad is back on apartadox again.

Next up is Ines Vaz who has some great reviews on the local board and has some fans here as well and I'm going to have to especially thank kama leao for this one. Ines is a petit Portuguese women in her mid 30's I'd say roughly with an average body and looks wise she is average, by no means is she ugly and I actually find her kind of attractive. However when it comes to Ines her body and looks are only minor knocks for me because this women is an absolute firecracker in bad and I had an absolute fantastic time with her. Booked a 2 hour incall with her and she started off with a massage before starting a body slide on me rubbing her body all over my back and kissing my neck until I couldn't take it anymore and turned around and than the fireworks began. Started off with some intense DFK before I decided to start some DATY on her and after eating her pussy and licking her clit it wasn't long before her pussy was soaking wet and she was squirming and had to get me to stop before she came. She decided to return the favour with some great BBBJ than on came the condom and man can this women fuck! Great cowgirl and reverse cowgirl while she was fingering her clit and seemingly having multiple orgasms as she was riding me and I was doing my best to fuck her from below. Ended the 1st round in cowgirl before we took a little break and her English is perfect and she is very pleasant to talk to. Ended up getting 2 more rounds out of her as this women was just fantastic in the sack tons of DFK and we were like 2 dogs in heat taking turns fucking each other with her in cowgirl fingering her clit as she was riding me and than switching over to missionary as I loved pounding her in that position with our tongues deep in each other's mouths and that's the position I came in the 2 d and 3rd time. This women loves sex and is definitely not a clock watcher as I overstayed my 2 hour incall with her talking with her for a while and lost track of time as I was recuperating after fully draining my balls from 3 intense rounds of sex with her. An absolute gem and a must repeat next time I'm in Lisbon for sure. [URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]

Next up is Flora Neves who I couldn't wait to see judging from the reviews she gets here and I luckily got a hold of her the same day within a few hours of messaging her and set up an appointment for 2 days later. Unfortunately she was only able to come for 1 hour instead of 2 hours instead due to something that came up but that's ok and I went ahead and saw her anyway. I can confirm everything that is said about her she's tall about 5'9" or 5'10" early 20's Portuguese with long curly brunette hair speaks pretty good English and she's got a really cute pretty face, absolutely delighted when I saw her. We hit it off right away and she has a very friendly sweet attitude. She only does outcalls and came to the apartment I was staying at in central Lisbon, took a quick shower when she arrived and the sight of her coming out of the shower topless in lingerie underwear was a sight to behold, this girl has got a great body to go with that cute face. Started off with some great DFK before I moved in for some DATY and she has a nice clean meaty pussy which I loved eating but had to pace myself because I only had 1 hour with her. Moved on to some BBBJ which this girl has some great skills in than on the came the condom and she climbed on top for cowgirl and man is her pussy tight. Fantastic riding in cowgirl as I was alternating between sucking her beautiful perfect tits and kissing her in DFK. Switched to some reverse cowgirl and than finally missionary where I loved fucking that tight pussy the most while DFK her and that's the position I came in. Relaxed and talked with her for a while as we cuddled afterwards and she did stay with me for a little over the hour so she wasn't a clock watcher with me. I'm in my late 30's but I can still pass for being in my late 20's and my ancestry is Portuguese so I feel that helped the chemistry between us and she was very relaxed and in a good mood from the beginning of the session till she left the apartment and the sex was a pretty sensual GFE. I tried repeating with her again while I was in Lisbon but it seems like her WhatsApp business account was off as everyntime I messaged her I didn't get that auto reply back with her list of services and prices like I did the first time and she only does this part-time so it can be hard to get a hold of her sometimes so for anyone that is interested in seeing her it's best to probably message her before you leave for Lisbon to see if she's available. An absolute cute sweetheart and I will definitely try and get a hold of her again if she's still available next time I'm in Lisbon. She had ads in both apartadox and eurogirls when I was in Lisbon but it looks like her apartadox ad is down but her ad on eurogirls is still up.

[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/flora-neves/646062/?list=n6kggpi[/URL]

Last but not least the other girl I saw in Lisbon was Viviane Miler, I had previously seen her in January during my previous brief stay in Lisbon and had such a good time with her I just had to see her again. Managed to get a hold of her a few days after landing in Lisbon and she replied instantly to my WhatsApp message and I booked a 2 hour outcall appointment the following evening with her. I had such a good time with her again that I booked another 2 hour outcall a week later and than a final 2 hour outcall towards the end of my trip in Lisbon. She's well reviewed on this forum and seems to be EP's most popular girl and for good reason I honestly cannot get enough her. For anyone that hasn't seen her Viviane is in her early 20's Brazilian of European ancestry with a really cute pretty face with green bluish eyes that I instantly fell in love with the first time I saw her. An absolutely gorgeous body with long curly brown hair and fantastic tits with a very friendly sweet attitude. She is phenomenal in bed to go along with that cute pretty face and gorgeous body, unlimited deep french kissing is outstanding with her as we literally played tonsil hockey with each other especially in missionary. Her BBBJ is fantastic too and she has such a beautiful clean pink pussy that I just love eating out. She is outstanding in cowgirl as she looked at me with a big smile on her face as she was fucking me and would than lean in for some DFK and than lick my neck which drove me crazy. Managed to get 2 or 3 rounds in with her each time in CFS, I saw her for 2 hours as the sex is pretty intense but still GFE which is my style as I'm a pretty vanilla GFE kind of guy. Afterwards she would cuddle in between rounds and we would chat for a bit, she can speak and understand basic English so between that and my speaking and understanding of some Portuguese communication was fine. She is going to university soon so I don't know if she'll be around for much longer or if she'll try and combine her studies with escorting part-time we'll see but she has plans for the future so I wished her good luck last time I saw her just in case I don't see her again. What more can I see about her except that she is an absolute gem, be respectful with her and treat her well and you will have a fantastic time with her.

To sum it up it up I had a great time in Lisbon and would highly recommend all 5 of the ladies I saw while I was there.[/QUOTE]

Agreed, proper Nuru massage is very rare outside of Asia. However I don't see Nuru massage on offer nearly as much as 'tantric' massage. Truth be told very few providers know how to give a good tantric massage too!

I would be satisfied with a good sensual massage but my experience at Genuine Tantric last time wasn't great. No touching at all. It's good to hear you enjoyed the experiences.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;2926563]Thank you very much for your pointers re the other massage places. Really appreciate it for my next trip. One thing I did learn in my brief visit to Lisbon is that the Nuru Massage does not actually have the Nuru gel. They do body to body massage with lots of oil and call it Nuru. The traditional Japanese Nuru is hard to find outside of Asia.

By the way, my second massage experience at GT, the lady did a great body to body massage and allowed a lot of breast play but strictly no fingering. No complaints from me :-).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2927885]Thanks to Canuckguy85 for all of those great reports, and particularly for confirming that Ines Vaz is back to offering full service sessions.[/QUOTE]Your welcome.

[QUOTE=Harry1217;2927976]Thank you very much for your detailed reports. Apart from Morgana, all of the ladies you saw are well reviewed here. It's pleasing that you had such a good time with them all. Morgana sounds great and I may try and see her myself when I'm next there.

Yes, Flora Neves is not easy to get hold of, as you found in attempting to book again. Her time-keeping and sticking to the agreed meeting time, is also not great. You did very well with all the DFK as plenty of reports have mentioned getting little to none.[/QUOTE]Yeah I was kind of bummed out about not getting a chance to see her again as I find her really cute and had a really great time with her. When it comes to DFK I guess it's a case of ymmv with her as we basically just seemed to click as soon as I met her and the chemistry between us was great.

Yes DFK is YMMV with her. She doesn't provide it to plenty of men even where they apparently have great hygiene. It probably helped that you look young and have the Portuguese ancestry.

However, DFK shouldn't be YMMV because she advertises that the service is included. If she wants to be selective, she should remove it from her ad.

[QUOTE=CanuckGuy85;2928004]Yeah I was kind of bummed out about not getting a chance to see her again as I find her really cute and had a really great time with her. When it comes to DFK I guess it's a case of ymmv with her as we basically just seemed to click as soon as I met her and the chemistry between us was great.[/QUOTE]

Has anyone seen those girls from Eurogirls Escort or know any reviews from other sites?:

[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/mariana-taborda/373382/?list=1onwuf[/URL]

[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/chloe/533487/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/liliana/617012/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/poli/369391/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/barbara/683265/?list=c8xc8[/URL]

[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/sara/732897/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/sandra-moura/689201/[/URL]

I'm just curious.

Morgana Cruz, who is mentioned in the post below, has not been running a current Apartadox ad. But she does appear to have an active gostosas ad.

[URL]https://gostosas.pt/escort/morgana-lisboa[/URL]

[QUOTE=CanuckGuy85;2927015]Visited Lisbon for a few weeks in May and had a great time, been meaning to post reviews of the ladies I saw there so here we go. Thanks to the information on the Lisbon forum here and the local Portuguese boards I had no bad experiences with any of the women that I saw and would highly recommend all of them. First off is Morgana Cruz a beautiful curvy busty Brazilian of Italian descent. Booked her for 2 hours at her incall location and had a great time with her, beautiful face with a great set of big natural tits and a nice big ass. Her body is curvy and might not be everyone's cup of tea if you like slimmer women but I don't mind a little bit of extra meat and I wouldn't call her fat in my opinion. She gets great reviews on the local board and I can see why, very friendly pleasant attitude and she does everything to try and please you. Service with her included lots of DFK too which I like, DATY was nice and clean and her BBBJ is fantastic. Had sex with her in multiple positions and managed to get 3 rounds with her in the 2 hours I spent with her in cowgirl, missionary and doggy as her pussy is pretty tight. Overall had a great time with her and would repeat no problem, only downside with her is that her English is nonexistent but she has no problem using google translate and I can speak some Portuguese and understand most of it so it wasn't really an issue for me. She advertises on apartadox for anyone that is interested.

Next up is Rebeca Diniz a. K. a Becky another favourite on the local board and she has lots of fans here as well and I can see why. She's a good looking Portuguese Angolan mulatta with a fantastic fit body, nice set of natural tits with a fantastic ass and her skin is insanely smooth. She speaks fluent English and has a great friendly personality that puts you at ease as soon as you meet her. Service was great as well as she's ok with DFK, her pussy is nice and clean and tasted great and her BBBJ is great as well and very sensual. Had a 2 hour incall with her and went 2 rounds in CFS with the first one ending in doggy style with a wonderful view of that amazing smooth ass. Had a break and enjoyed talking with her before I went a second round with her in anal this time which started in doggy and than we switched to spooning and finished a 2nd time in her ass and than collapsed on the bed. She can take a good pounding in anal with no complaints and encourages you to give it to her hard. Had a fantastic time with her and would definitely repeat again with her, her ad is back on apartadox again.

Next up is Ines Vaz who has some great reviews on the local board and has some fans here as well and I'm going to have to especially thank kama leao for this one. Ines is a petit Portuguese women in her mid 30's I'd say roughly with an average body and looks wise she is average, by no means is she ugly and I actually find her kind of attractive. However when it comes to Ines her body and looks are only minor knocks for me because this women is an absolute firecracker in bad and I had an absolute fantastic time with her. Booked a 2 hour incall with her and she started off with a massage before starting a body slide on me rubbing her body all over my back and kissing my neck until I couldn't take it anymore and turned around and than the fireworks began. Started off with some intense DFK before I decided to start some DATY on her and after eating her pussy and licking her clit it wasn't long before her pussy was soaking wet and she was squirming and had to get me to stop before she came. She decided to return the favour with some great BBBJ than on came the condom and man can this women fuck! Great cowgirl and reverse cowgirl while she was fingering her clit and seemingly having multiple orgasms as she was riding me and I was doing my best to fuck her from below. Ended the 1st round in cowgirl before we took a little break and her English is perfect and she is very pleasant to talk to. Ended up getting 2 more rounds out of her as this women was just fantastic in the sack tons of DFK and we were like 2 dogs in heat taking turns fucking each other with her in cowgirl fingering her clit as she was riding me and than switching over to missionary as I loved pounding her in that position with our tongues deep in each other's mouths and that's the position I came in the 2 d and 3rd time. This women loves sex and is definitely not a clock watcher as I overstayed my 2 hour incall with her talking with her for a while and lost track of time as I was recuperating after fully draining my balls from 3 intense rounds of sex with her. An absolute gem and a must repeat next time I'm in Lisbon for sure. [URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]

Next up is Flora Neves who I couldn't wait to see judging from the reviews she gets here and I luckily got a hold of her the same day within a few hours of messaging her and set up an appointment for 2 days later. Unfortunately she was only able to come for 1 hour instead of 2 hours instead due to something that came up but that's ok and I went ahead and saw her anyway. I can confirm everything that is said about her she's tall about 5'9" or 5'10" early 20's Portuguese with long curly brunette hair speaks pretty good English and she's got a really cute pretty face, absolutely delighted when I saw her. We hit it off right away and she has a very friendly sweet attitude. She only does outcalls and came to the apartment I was staying at in central Lisbon, took a quick shower when she arrived and the sight of her coming out of the shower topless in lingerie underwear was a sight to behold, this girl has got a great body to go with that cute face. Started off with some great DFK before I moved in for some DATY and she has a nice clean meaty pussy which I loved eating but had to pace myself because I only had 1 hour with her. Moved on to some BBBJ which this girl has some great skills in than on the came the condom and she climbed on top for cowgirl and man is her pussy tight. Fantastic riding in cowgirl as I was alternating between sucking her beautiful perfect tits and kissing her in DFK. Switched to some reverse cowgirl and than finally missionary where I loved fucking that tight pussy the most while DFK her and that's the position I came in. Relaxed and talked with her for a while as we cuddled afterwards and she did stay with me for a little over the hour so she wasn't a clock watcher with me. I'm in my late 30's but I can still pass for being in my late 20's and my ancestry is Portuguese so I feel that helped the chemistry between us and she was very relaxed and in a good mood from the beginning of the session till she left the apartment and the sex was a pretty sensual GFE. I tried repeating with her again while I was in Lisbon but it seems like her WhatsApp business account was off as everyntime I messaged her I didn't get that auto reply back with her list of services and prices like I did the first time and she only does this part-time so it can be hard to get a hold of her sometimes so for anyone that is interested in seeing her it's best to probably message her before you leave for Lisbon to see if she's available. An absolute cute sweetheart and I will definitely try and get a hold of her again if she's still available next time I'm in Lisbon. She had ads in both apartadox and eurogirls when I was in Lisbon but it looks like her apartadox ad is down but her ad on eurogirls is still up.

[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/flora-neves/646062/?list=n6kggpi[/URL]

Last but not least the other girl I saw in Lisbon was Viviane Miler, I had previously seen her in January during my previous brief stay in Lisbon and had such a good time with her I just had to see her again. Managed to get a hold of her a few days after landing in Lisbon and she replied instantly to my WhatsApp message and I booked a 2 hour outcall appointment the following evening with her. I had such a good time with her again that I booked another 2 hour outcall a week later and than a final 2 hour outcall towards the end of my trip in Lisbon. She's well reviewed on this forum and seems to be EP's most popular girl and for good reason I honestly cannot get enough her. For anyone that hasn't seen her Viviane is in her early 20's Brazilian of European ancestry with a really cute pretty face with green bluish eyes that I instantly fell in love with the first time I saw her. An absolutely gorgeous body with long curly brown hair and fantastic tits with a very friendly sweet attitude. She is phenomenal in bed to go along with that cute pretty face and gorgeous body, unlimited deep french kissing is outstanding with her as we literally played tonsil hockey with each other especially in missionary. Her BBBJ is fantastic too and she has such a beautiful clean pink pussy that I just love eating out. She is outstanding in cowgirl as she looked at me with a big smile on her face as she was fucking me and would than lean in for some DFK and than lick my neck which drove me crazy. Managed to get 2 or 3 rounds in with her each time in CFS, I saw her for 2 hours as the sex is pretty intense but still GFE which is my style as I'm a pretty vanilla GFE kind of guy. Afterwards she would cuddle in between rounds and we would chat for a bit, she can speak and understand basic English so between that and my speaking and understanding of some Portuguese communication was fine. She is going to university soon so I don't know if she'll be around for much longer or if she'll try and combine her studies with escorting part-time we'll see but she has plans for the future so I wished her good luck last time I saw her just in case I don't see her again. What more can I see about her except that she is an absolute gem, be respectful with her and treat her well and you will have a fantastic time with her.

To sum it up it up I had a great time in Lisbon and would highly recommend all 5 of the ladies I saw while I was there.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2929598]Morgana Cruz, who is mentioned in the post below, has not been running a current Apartadox ad. But she does appear to have an active gostosas ad.

[URL]https://gostosas.pt/escort/morgana-lisboa[/URL][/QUOTE]Yes that is her, her account on WhatsApp says she is currently unavailable until July24 so maybe she took down her Apartadox ad temporarily for that reason.

I am very new at this so I wanted to check what is the etiquette for going to erotic massage parlors in Lisbon. First and foremost, do you need to tip masseuses at the end? What is the tip amount people tend to give in Lisbon? Can you ask for multiple shots (or I guess lingams in their lingo)?

Are there places I should avoid? I am aware a lot of people complain for poor service quality or masseuses not looking exactly like the picture but what I want to know is are there truly catastrophic experiences like getting STDs, being harassed or blackmailed in these massage shops?

I am planning to visit HJ only shops and they are already very expensive considering what they offer. So wanted to check if the value is there or not (if I need to tip a lot and it is only limited to one shot and also if they are dangerous places then I will not visit). I don't want to hire an escort and also not interested in FS so I am only asking about the HJ only erotic massage parlors.

Thanks.

A 40 something Brazilian beauty, Bianca / Bia moves about a bit between Lisbon, Porto, Braga and occasionally the Algarve. But if you manage to meet her at any of these spots, don't miss that opportunity. She's not only a very sexy masseuse but, when she feels that the temperature has reached the right level, becomes a very, very, hot bed partner. She'll offer exquisite OWO, FK, delightfull DATY and will leave you completely dry and floating between the Saturn rings. A gem.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-bianca-guedes-6119[/URL]

[URL]https://www.classificadosx.net/pt/anuncio/23-mulheres-porto/486031-bia-massagista-pela-primeira-v[/URL]

[URL]https://acompanhantesrosa.com/acompanhante-de-luxo/BiancaGuedes[/URL]

[URL]https://gostosas.pt/escort/bia-massagista[/URL]

I did some research on Emila Vilanova, who advertises on EP and Apartadox, and one of the girls Lisa Mendes recommended to me during my trip, but didn't pursue due to lack of info. Turns out there are reviews of her on the local forum and ISG. She used to advertise as Pureza Vilar before changing her name. She is one of those working girls that offered good or even great service at the beginning, but slowly deteriorated over the years+weight gains. Also has negative reviews on Euro Escort.

A much anticipated review appeared on the local review board today.

As has been noted many times in the thread, there is a shortage of younger providers in Lisbon.

Eva Mello's profile appeared a month or two ago on the escortprivada site, but until now there have been no reviews.

An experienced and trustable reviewer gave her an excellent review of 9 out of 10.

He confirmed that Eva Mello is a genuine 19 or 20 year old with a very pretty face and that the body is as shown in her ad and videos. She does kissing, BBBJ and CIM, and she has an excellent, friendly attitude and gets into the session (she masturbated while he was pumping her).

This is a very welcome development given how many disappointments exist with respect to ads involving younger providers.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-eva-mello-8448[/URL]

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/eva-mello/[/URL]

Of course, escortprivada has another older teen who gets fantastic reviews.

She is Viviane Miler.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/viviane-miler/[/URL]

Between these two, there is now availability for guys wanting high-performing 18 to 21 year olds.

The infamous Claudia and Julieta, both Portuguese girls with bad reviews from the past, are a duo now:[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-claudianascimentoejulietagomes-8490[/URL].

[QUOTE=BaltiX;2932685]The infamous Claudia and Julieta, both Portuguese girls with bad reviews from the past, are a duo now:[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-claudianascimentoejulietagomes-8490[/URL].[/QUOTE]No one here has ever claimed that EP, or Apartadox, has all high performers.

That is why we make lists of recommended ladies.

The last 10 pages or so of the forum have thirty or more highly recommended ladies, all of whom are BBBJ.

More than enough for any visitor.

I have no idea why so many guys want to wander off the reservation.

Hi Mongerer88, many thanks for the information but I want to draw your attention to comments on the local board following this review.

People are suggesting this is a promotional review by someone associated with one of the agencies or ad-sites. You refer to the reviewer as trustable but he has used exactly the same wording on some of his other reviews, and he has reviews where he is the only positive reviewer of a lady amongst a sea of negatives by others.

You also refer to him as an experienced reviewer but I note he only has a handful of reviews (although he has admittedly been around for couple of years).

I appreciate you may not regard the above as being important, but in my opinion some of the comments on the board do provide food for thought.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2932646]A much anticipated review appeared on the local review board today.

As has been noted many times in the thread, there is a shortage of younger providers in Lisbon.

Eva Mello's profile appeared a month or two ago on the escortprivada site, but until now there have been no reviews.

An experienced and trustable reviewer gave her an excellent review of 9 out of 10.

He confirmed that Eva Mello is a genuine 19 or 20 year old with a very pretty face and that the body is as shown in her ad and videos. She does kissing, BBBJ and CIM, and she has an excellent, friendly attitude and gets into the session (she masturbated while he was pumping her).

This is a very welcome development given how many disappointments exist with respect to ads involving younger providers.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-eva-mello-8448[/URL]

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/eva-mello/[/URL]

Of course, escortprivada has another older teen who gets fantastic reviews.

She is Viviane Miler.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/viviane-miler/[/URL]

Between these two, there is now availability for guys wanting high-performing 18 to 21 year olds.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Harry1217;2933116]Hi Mongerer88, many thanks for the information but I want to draw your attention to comments on the local board following this review.

People are suggesting this is a promotional review by someone associated with one of the agencies or ad-sites. You refer to the reviewer as trustable but he has used exactly the same wording on some of his other reviews, and he has reviews where he is the only positive reviewer of a lady amongst a sea of negatives by others.

You also refer to him as an experienced reviewer but I note he only has a handful of reviews (although he has admittedly been around for couple of years).

I appreciate you may not regard the above as being important, but in my opinion some of the comments on the board do provide food for thought.[/QUOTE]I saw that. He has reviewed four EP ladies and five non-EP ladies and generally leaves satisfied after his sessions. He described Eva Mello and Clara Mendes similar in terms of certain facial looks, but so what. They are both girls in their late teens to early 20's, and he was reviewing them within a week or two.

I tend to think his reviews are real. Hopefully someone here will see Eva Mello and let everyone know their thoughts.

One of his favorable reviews is of Clara Mendes who indeed got otherwise terrible reviews on the local board. Now let's take a deeper dive. Clara Mendes got a short but okay review here on ISG and a more favorable review on the big American review board.

A person can make some cynical comments that Americans are undersexed, which is likely true. But Americans are also generally happy people and it can show up in the reviews. Some Portuguese are happy people, clearly the reviewer in question is. But the local board has some people who aren't. In her 2 and 4 out of 10 reviews (amazingly by the same person, who repeated with her) she did BBBJ and one of his reviews said it was to completion.

Now sure I prefer the Rebeca Diniz's of the world who offer BBBJ, play three holes, and offer fetishes, in addition to offering great conversation. Rebeca is a 10 out of 10 to me, but I don't think I have ever viewed a lady who sucked me off bare to completion a 2 out of 10. I suspect I would find Clara to be a 7 out of ten, at worst. And the reviewer who gave Clara an 2 out of 10 actually said he found Clara Medes thin and attractive. WTF? So I put more credence in Clara's reviews by the happy, optimistic local board reviewer than this pessimist.

Certainly Viviane Miler is the best choice, and if you read the happy guy's review, he gushes more in the narrative about Eva Mello than he does about Clara Mendes, so Eva is a better choice than Clara. But Clara isn't a 2 out of 10. Give me a break.

And this principle isn't limited to EP ladies. A reviewer on the big American board was very happy with Catia Bom, and confirmed the services she advertises.

[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/catia/560338/?list=r4vgn[/URL]

On the local board, Catia has a 2, 5, 6, 6, 7, 8, 8, and 9 out of 10 on her reviews.

It is very difficult to find any uniformity in reviews on the local board, especially among a group of reviewers who are very willing to do very bad scores even when the description of the meet does not sound all that bad.

So when you find a reviewer who is generally happy, it is useful to pay attention to his reviews. And let's not forget that a good attitude for the customer makes it more likely to get a good session. Sex workers are generally happy people, especially during the session. They don't like negative energy.

And finally, any positive review on the local board of EP ladies gets accusations of being false after the price increase. The locals seem to believe it is, or will, drive up all sex work prices. So they are more hostile than ever about EP. One of the Canadian reviewers did his reviews on the Toronto board well before translating the reviews to the local Portuguese board and they accused him of being a shill due to some of his favorable reviews being of EP ladies. But I knew they weren't since we communicated on the Canadian board before he did the Portugal trip.

Thanks for the additional information. That all makes sense, and perhaps he is a legitimate reviewer. Personally I wouldn't ever copy a previous review word for word (even if only parts of it), as it indicates a lack of thought has gone into the current review, at best.

Yes it's once we start getting more than 1 review of a lady, that we feel more confident about building a picture. If I make it out to Lisbon in the next few weeks, I may take a chance on Eva.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2933124]I saw that. He has reviewed four EP ladies and five non-EP ladies and generally leaves satisfied after his sessions. He described Eva Mello and Clara Mendes similar in terms of certain facial looks, but so what. They are both girls in their late teens to early 20's, and he was reviewing them within a week or two.

I tend to think his reviews are real. Hopefully someone here will see Eva Mello and let everyone know their thoughts.

One of his favorable reviews is of Clara Mendes who indeed got otherwise terrible reviews on the local board. Now let's take a deeper dive. Clara Mendes got a short but okay review here on ISG and a more favorable review on the big American review board.

A person can make some cynical comments that Americans are undersexed, which is likely true. But Americans are also generally happy people and it can show up in the reviews. Some Portuguese are happy people, clearly the reviewer in question is. But the local board has some people who aren't. In her 2 and 4 out of 10 reviews (amazingly by the same person, who repeated with her) she did BBBJ and one of his reviews said it was to completion.

Now sure I prefer the Rebeca Diniz's of the world who offer BBBJ, play three holes, and offer fetishes, in addition to offering great conversation. Rebeca is a 10 out of 10 to me, but I don't think I have ever viewed a lady who sucked me off bare to completion a 2 out of 10. I suspect I would find Clara to be a 7 out of ten, at worst. And the reviewer who gave Clara an 2 out of 10 actually said he found Clara Medes thin and attractive. WTF? So I put more credence in Clara's reviews by the happy, optimistic local board reviewer than this pessimist.

Certainly Viviane Miler is the best choice, and if you read the happy guy's review, he gushes more in the narrative about Eva Mello than he does about Clara Mendes, so Eva is a better choice than Clara. But Clara isn't a 2 out of 10. Give me a break.

And this principle isn't limited to EP ladies. A reviewer on the big American board was very happy with Catia Bom, and confirmed the services she advertises.

[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/catia/560338/?list=r4vgn[/URL]

On the local board, Catia has a 2, 5, 6, 6, 7, 8, 8, and 9 out of 10 on her reviews.

It is very difficult to find any uniformity in reviews on the local board, especially among a group of reviewers who are very willing to do very bad scores even when the description of the meet does not sound all that bad.

So when you find a reviewer who is generally happy, it is useful to pay attention to his reviews. And let's not forget that a good attitude for the customer makes it more likely to get a good session. Sex workers are generally happy people, especially during the session. They don't like negative energy.

And finally, any positive review on the local board of EP ladies gets accusations of being false after the price increase. The locals seem to believe it is, or will, drive up all sex work prices. So they are more hostile than ever about EP. One of the Canadian reviewers did his reviews on the Toronto board well before translating the reviews to the local Portuguese board and they accused him of being a shill due to some of his favorable reviews being of EP ladies. But I knew they weren't since we communicated on the Canadian board before he did the Portugal trip.[/QUOTE]

Good points Monger88. I too had trouble deciphering some of posts of girls with bad reviews like Clara Mendes. One of the problems I noticed with the sex industry are a significant portion of mongers who are only satisfied with girls who provide perfect GFE or PSE service for very cheap prices. They are often too demanding and ignorant generally speaking. BTW, what is the name of the American forum you mentioned several times. You can PM me if you want.

What are the local forums and american forums please?

Went on a double massage with my female partner. 300 per hour in total.

Long story short:

- Inês was nothing short of amazing. My partner, who had the luck of being picked by her, was very pleased. From my point of view it looked more like seeing lovers having fun, so passionately the service was provided. Fun and enthusiastic person.

- Clara, on the other hand, given me one of the worst services in general. A middle aged serbian man gave me a better shave in Belgrade in a room without an AC. Little to no enthusiasm during the massage and BJ, trying to slack on activities, pestering Inês about time sneakily.

Don't want to sound like a begrudged customer, as Clara wasn't rude with me, on the countrary, quite pleasant in person, but that doesn't change the fact that the only service I received there is the satisfaction from knowing that at least one of us had a good time.

[QUOTE=NoTimezone;2935394]Went on a double massage with my female partner. 300 per hour in total.[/QUOTE]Forgot to spectify that it's Clara Gouveia I was with.

There are at least two Ines and several Clara's in the Lisbon market. Can you let us know where you went?

[QUOTE=NoTimezone;2935394]Went on a double massage with my female partner. 300 per hour in total.

Long story short:

- Ins was nothing short of amazing. My partner, who had the luck of being picked by her, was very pleased. From my point of view it looked more like seeing lovers having fun, so passionately the service was provided. Fun and enthusiastic person.

- Clara, on the other hand, given me one of the worst services in general. A middle aged serbian man gave me a better shave in Belgrade in a room without an AC. Little to no enthusiasm during the massage and BJ, trying to slack on activities, pestering Ins about time sneakily.

Don't want to sound like a begrudged customer, as Clara wasn't rude with me, on the countrary, quite pleasant in person, but that doesn't change the fact that the only service I received there is the satisfaction from knowing that at least one of us had a good time.[/QUOTE]

I have a long layover in Lisbon on a Sunday. Searching through this thread, there doesn't look like many options, so no outcall from escortprivada, though I have many favorites there. Any chance of an update on short term hotels for a quick visit, or am I better off looking for in call. Do girls even work on sundays?

Bump for Fzzxx. Here are a tremendous number of highly recommended independents. PM me if you want Rebecca Diniz number as she has taken her ad off at the moment. She is my personal favorite and all of her reviews are fantastic.

Most Lisbon independents work on Sundays. The Barcelona legal large incall places close on Sundays for practical reasons other than worshipping Jesus, but don't let that bias you with respect to Iberia as a whole.

You just message any of these ladies via WhatsApp, ask about the Sunday you are interested in, go to there incall, and have your session.

ExExpatriate pointed out that I should have included Raquel Soares on the list, and he is correct.

[URL]https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/raquel-soares[/URL]

Note that the last provider on the list, Ines Vaz, has since been reviewed as providing CFS again. It was unavailable for a very short period of time, which caused concern, since she is so highly recommended.

The ladies listed in the attached post gives you a lot of recommended ladies to choose from for your layover and trip into the city.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2911496]Here is a list of the non Escort Privada ladies advertising on Apartadox at the moment who have strong reviews.

I will do a separate post for Escort Privada ladies. EP ladies are outcall only, and I realize you are usually looking for incall.

They aren't all your type, but many are. And the list is designed for the many summer travelers who will hit Lisbon. I am sure I will miss many, so other posters can make additions. And of course some great ladies will inevitably make their ads active again as soon as I post this, but that is just the way it works. All the girls I list are BBBJ in addition to CFS. Many offer anal.

I have to start with my favorite in Lisbon, Rebeca Diniz. Everyone who has seen her on the local board and this board has loved her. GFE to the max and aims to please. She simply gets what a sex what a provider is supposed to do. Open to light kink and anal is often available. I recommend her very highly..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2935569]There are at least two Ines and several Clara's in the Lisbon market. Can you let us know where you went?[/QUOTE]Clara Gouveia - [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/massagista-clara-gouveia-5737[/URL].

Inês - [URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL].

Heading into Lisbon later this week and would love to have a true threesome with girls that play with each other as well. Do you guys have recommendations for the best duo offerings active right now?

I tend to prefer tighter perky bodies and more light skinned. Thank you!

[QUOTE=CollegeGuy1111;2936946]Heading into Lisbon later this week and would love to have a true threesome with girls that play with each other as well. Do you guys have recommendations for the best duo offerings active right now?

I tend to prefer tighter perky bodies and more light skinned. Thank you![/QUOTE]Contact Flora Neves and ask her to set up a duo with one of her many friends. She fits your requirements perfectly.

[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/flora-neves/646062/[/URL]

And / or contact EP and see what ladies Vivian Miler (who just got her usual fantastic review on the British board) does duos with.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/viviane-miler/[/URL]

Sara Valente is well in her 30's but is now very slim. She is very bisexual, not dark skinned, and really performs during a threesome. She would be a good choice if she and Vivian will pair up.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/sara-valente/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2937148]Contact Flora Neves and ask her to set up a duo with one of her many friends. She fits your requirements perfectly.

[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/flora-neves/646062/[/URL]

And / or contact EP and see what ladies Vivian Miler (who just got her usual fantastic review on the British board) does duos with.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/viviane-miler/[/URL]

Sara Valente is well in her 30's but is now very slim. She is very bisexual, not dark skinned, and really performs during a threesome. She would be a good choice if she and Vivian will pair up.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/sara-valente/[/URL][/QUOTE]Flora suggested Frederica Lima and Camila Vaz. I know frederica has had a warning in the past. Any thoughts? Flora at first suggested Vivienne but Viv denied saying she doesn't do duos with unknowns.