Nearly half of Dominicans live below poverty line.
For those interested in a Macro economic view of Republica Dominicana. This is one of the factors that make it a favored destination for sexual tourism.
DR1 Daily News 5 March 2019.
A study carried out by the Juan Bosch Foundation and the Development Cooperation Institute (ISCOS in Italian) has revealed that 47% of Dominicans are living below the poverty line. The study is called "The analysis of the announcements made by President Danilo Medina and a comparison to the real numbers in terms of employment, salaries, poverty and pensions", and is based on figures from the Central Bank. The report concluded that the, the average income per person / household was RD $4,644 in 2016.
The report states that between 2014 and 2017 some 380,608 new jobs were created, of which 47% were in the informal sector and in 2017, some 121,066 new jobs were created of which 66.7% were informal, that is they are part of an economy that is neither taxed nor monitored by any form of government.
Comparing the data provided by President Medina, in his state of the nation speech on 27 of February 2019, they said that 60% of people have an average income of RD $11,734 that is below the cost of the cheapest family basket which is RD $13,346.
Matas Bosch Carcuro, Edgar Garca and Cabrera Airon Fernndez said that the majority of the Dominican working population earn much less than is needed to survive with 80% earning less than RD $17,000 that is much less than the average family basket estimated at RD $23,422. They criticized that President Danilo Medina had announced the public sector minimum wage would be doubled to RD $10,000 when the amount does not even cover the cheapest family basket.
[URL]https://eldia.com.do/47-de-los-domin...ea-de-pobreza/[/URL]
Pretty much hits every nail on the head.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2413182]I walked into the Bravo on San Isidro and heard a sound that almost made me vomit on the spot. They were playing Boney James over the load speakers. It was an assault on my ear holes that finally brought to the forefront of this nagging feeling that I was having that something was wrong here in Republica Dominicana. And that is the Americanization of the country by multi-national businesses, growing american style consumerism and an advance of the worst that culture Americana has to offer.
Now I don't know if this push is really a demand by Dominicans for everything american. My personal feeling is that the United States of America is way over played throughout the world. Too many believe the hype. The United States of America is devoid of culture, exports the worst of it's habits as culture, and is only good for doing one thing, making money. Now you can consider productivity a culture. But all that work that Americans put in don't do them any good unless they are owners of capital.
Another thing that is really killing the appeal of Santo Domingo / Santo Domingo este is the increasingly traffic nightmare that exists here. Others are up in here talking about people making a move out of Sosua to Santo Domingo. Bad move gentlemen (and I use that word loosely). I'm going north and east. In my opinion although the big cities offer the best entertainment lifestyle and activities for day to day life but they leave much to be desired (like the side effects from medicine or a hangover). In the small towns outside the big cities the chicas are hungry for excitement and pesos and they will take you dick to get the former and not demand much of the latter. Of course you have to have transportation to do that (uber does not cut it for this gentlemen no matter how hard the off-islanders want to ride the collective UBER dick up in here) and you have to speak Spanish. Period. If you don't want to put the work in to learn Spanish (and I understand why) let your pesos communicate and stay in the puta pueblos and big cities.[/QUOTE]Very well done post sir. It is always nice to read something well thought out from a thinking person who see's the world around us and can sense the sand shifting under one's feet. This post should be a must read for many of us. For me it hits a whole bunch of nail's right on the head.
And unfortunately it describes a situation taking place all over the planet, including pretty much all of the 'recreation area's' many of us similar thinking folks rotate through.
As the Commander mentions, the situation is changing. And in all to many places, all to rapidly. The New World Order is yesterday's Global Village on a potent mix of steroids and methamphetamine's. And it ain't going to stop soon, and it ain't going to end pretty I don't think.
Folks who are getting a similar feeling need to re-evaluate their priorities and values, and expand their horizons and be willing to be creative and flexible.
There are still very do-able options out there if one is willing to think outside of the box as they say. Last year I spent seven months having a look around East Africa and came home very impressed and will be returning again.
Thanks for the post.
Cheers.
Republica Dominicana, Colombia and the United States of America
[QUOTE=Questner;2414344]Just imagine some sort of Ministry of Tourism, or Ministry of War for that matter, starts making decisions on which bars may open in the US.
They have to come clear on why and by which authority they have been shut down in the first place, and don't allow it to repeat again.
Unlike Colombia, somehow Dominicans don't get the concept of the right to work, somehow they have some strange vision of protecting the vulnerable, somehow they find acceptable to harass their own women.[/QUOTE]I find your post curious. I wonder why you compare different countries (three actually) with three different systems and cultures? Do you actually expect everything to be uniform throughout the world?
If you are a RD vet, then you know that the law here is what the controlling legal authority says it is at the time until the next controlling legal authority of greater influence says it is something different. Dominicans have a vote. But they don't have a say after the politicos are in office.
Prostitution remains legal in RD. So whatever is going on in Sosua is not about the law. In Sosua from what I read (as I don't live there) it seems like the controlling legal authorities want it off the streets and in certain places. Even in Santo Domingo there are streets where you can find prostitutes and ones you cannot. It's really that basic. I'm reading the Sosua forum and laughing my ass off that these off-islanders don't understand that regular tourism trumps sex tourism by about 10 times when it comes to actual money spent.
Lastly, if anyone finds another country that treats them better, I'm a big believer in going where you are treated best. For example, in my opinion there is no better place for making money for a person with no capital and no connections than the United States of America. Whereas there are many different countries throughout the world that have different lifestyles that are better than the United States of America. I find the climate and beaches of Republica Dominicana to be appealing. So much so, I've voted with my pesos and invested here. I have heard from several people who have relatives who live in Colombia that the infrastructure is much better. And it's much less expensive to live there. But if you are an extranjero it's unlikely you are going to get a loan to buy anything (especially real estate).
What's the point of comparing countries?
Dominican Republic tourist arrivals grow 5%, led by US
Santo Domingo – In the last eight years the Dominican Republic posted an average annual growth of 5% in tourist arrivals, adding 45.2 million visitors between 2012 and 2019, the Tourism Ministry affirmed Sunday.
During that period, 38.7 million non-resident foreigners visited the Caribbean country, or 85.6% of the total, while non-resident Dominicans accounted for 6. 4 million, 14.4% of the total.
The United States tops the list of tourist issuing countries by air with 15.9 million, followed by Canada that holds second place as an issuer, with 6. 2 million.
[URL]https://dominicantoday.com/dr/economy/2020/02/03/dominican-republic-tourist-arrivals-grow-5-led-by-us/[/URL]
No break down by type of tourist. LOL!
A discussion of race has no place in Dominican Republic
[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2423363]Dammit that damn Gogo. Now I'm headed to the Sue to get up with his crew. Taking my road dog Bro Jay. We're going to give this place two days I really want to give an honest evaluation. Brother P sounds like you and I may have the same gripes.
IMHO That segregation or separation is targeted toward the Haitians. There wasn't A major problem with guys doing videos. Video footage of the Su has been floating around for years. That's why the club still allows video coverage inside of the resort. They actually want the promotion. When you control the movement of the people you control who is allowed to enter the premises. Thus no more freedom to roam hurts the Haitians the most because some don't have paperwork.
And even if they did have paperwork unless they are a little connected no entry. The Dominicans don't mind black or white Americans money, but they do have a problem with the Haitians getting money.[/QUOTE]Those who use the term segregation in relation to the Dominican Republic are projecting their issues and problems that they incur in their country of origin here. This is not your country of origin. I suggest that everyone leave those type of problems at home when they board their flight.
The Dominicans are free to do in their country as they chose and as a visitor you can choose to deal with it or exercise your options. Anyone that has a problem with how Dominicans run their country can simply visit another country. When I read up in here about mongers getting upset with the government of the Dominican Republic I lose about 5 minutes of my time rolling on the floor laughing.
I'm not saying I agree with the treatment of the Haitians. But somebody need to tell me if thee are now "Whites only" signs on business in Sosua. My guess they are not. So, that means anyone with good Spanish can enjoy a nice glass of wine and a good meal downtown. Enjoy the music and conversations we not be confined to Ahnvee unless they choose to not exercise the freedom of movement they are allowed. The restrictions to them are in their mind only.
Monger money is chump change in the overall tourism market. Prostitution is legal in this county. The government of the Dominican Republic can regulate it however they choose within their own laws. That's keeping it real!
I see people using code words. And now I am seeing posts where the poster comes right out and says he has a racial issues. But the Dominican Republic is not racist. You are either Dominican (I will leave it to others to define if they are real) are you are not. That's it!
I've has some words with Old Kool. I like casas. He does not. We have agreed to disagree on that point. We are still both ejaculating into the various orifices of the chicas of our personal choices. But I have never read a racist comment that he has posted up in here. Ever!
Oakie got his groove back in Sosua. I'm happy for ya my man!
[QUOTE=Oakie;2425013]Your "fellow man in the arena" left the puta pueblo many moons ago![/QUOTE]I know. Grownman wrote a trip report. It was excellent. You even commented on it. Now tell me more about your bus riding leader is doing my man.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2425013]I spent 10 years checking out all parts of the DR while deciding on a place to live. Yep SD too![/QUOTE]No you didn't your leader "led" you to it.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2418786]A shout out to you, and Mr Gogo, who introduced me to Susua 10 years ago, and showed me how to navigate this fucked up paradise![/QUOTE]10 years checking out the Republic Dominicana. That means I was living here for 5 years before you even figured out where to move in the country. So sorry. It's in the record as you like to say. LOL!
[QUOTE=Oakie;2418786]I chose this place[/QUOTE]Great brother. You like it I love it!
"USA News & World Report. October 31,2018.
Santo Domingo: An Affordable Caribbean City for Retirement.
The capital of the Dominican Republic is a cosmopolitan beach retirement spot.
SANTO DOMINGO IS THE oldest city in the Americans, with more than 500 years of history. It's also one of the region's most affordable places to live or retire well.
The first thing that attracts most retirees and expats to the area is the low cost of living. Prices are a bargain relative to elsewhere in the region. You could buy an apartment in one of the city's new high-rise towers for as little as $100,000. A reasonable budget for a couple enjoying a high-end quality of life can be as little as $1,000 per month if you own your home. Rent adds another $500 to $800 per month. At the upper end of this monthly budget you could rent a big three-bedroom, four-bath*apartment*with marble floors, crown molding, decorative woodwork and a balcony view of the Caribbean.
Often, Caribbean living can mean compromising on comfort levels. That's not the case in Santo Domingo. This is a modern city that offers a way of life that's laid-back and seductive, while also being focused on economic growth".
[URL]https://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/on-retirement/articles/2018-10-31/santo-domingo-an-affordable-caribbean-city-for-retirement[/URL]
1000 USD a month to live in Santo Domingo. Shit! Got to be less living in that puta puerto up there. So time for you and your leader to come clean on the vehicle thing. Is it a lifestyle choice? Or is an affordability issue?
Because it should be noted that your "leader" has ridden around in my vehicle plenty of times when he needed for me to drive him around so he could do something. I always did it thinking I was helping out a fellow. Turns out he didn't really appreciate everything I did for him. Now he's anti car talking shit about something that does not even concern him. Shouldn't concern you either. Yet, you chose to mention it.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2425013] although your recent post indicates that you are not happy where you are! (Here's where the egg starts to slide down your face.)[/QUOTE]Really? That sound you are about to hear is the splinters flying from having it broken off in your ass.
Where do I live? Where was I writing about? Answer the question!
But before you do, call your favorite chica and have her run to the farmacia (Pharmacy) for some medical supplies to help you out my man.
[QUOTE=Oakie;2425013]I'll be happy to drive you all around in style! Lol[/QUOTE]Impossible to do my man. Already walked it. Your leader showed me Cabarete and Puerta Plata. If Cabarete was closer I would spend more time there. But I was bored in Sosua after three days (best thing was the girls) and unimpressed with Puerta Plata. But I have said: If you like it. I love it. I don't have to live there you do.
Santo Domingo / Santo Domingo este has for me "Caribbean living without compromising on comfort levels. " So, because I don't like the traffic and the changes I see being made that means I am unhappy? A puta pueblo does not have what Santo Domingo / Santo Domingo este has. Not even close. Anyone who reads it that way is having serious reading compression problems in English. If you really have paid attention to my posts over the years instead of just having a knee jerk reaction every time you are quoted or somebody says something bad about Sosua you would know that I don't live in Santo Domingo este anymore. Now that has me rolling on the floor laughing. Your egg missed me!
BTW, when did I move over to the dark side? Because I've been a gringo negro trying to make it in a Dominican world the entire time I've lived here. It's in the record. So tan barrio (I'm so hood). Got a problem with that? Put me on ignore. But my haters read every word I write. How else could they respond or comment that what I write is not worth reading? Are they having others read my posts and give them reports? I don't have answers to all those questions. But maybe you do. Can you help a brother out?
Do you have anything so say about Dominican Politics? When they finally have the election will it have any effect on the lifestyle in Sosua that you have chosen? Let me know about that. Because I could really give a fuck about your personal life. Now, I appreciate you sharing your life story of how you found happiness in Sosua. It's sort of like the smile that came to my face when I read about old man parting on el conde. You like it. Then I love it. Enjoy your puta pueblo. And don't be so touchy when someone does not share your rose colored view of the place please.