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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2598268]BBFS in Mexico is not common, at least not for me, so I can't comment.
BBFS is common in Thailand and I'm assuming many girls are not using any form of birth control. I base this view on the following comments I've had from the girls: (a) I'll get Plan B. (b) Do you promise you've had a vasectomy? (c) If I get pregnant, will you come to hospital with me for abortion? I don't want to do that alone again. (d) I want a mixed Thai-farang baby.
That last comment Ive heard a couple of times after Ive explained that Ive had a vasectomy. I dont understand the attitude of wanting a baby from a customer, though I do understand many Thai girls want a mixed Thai-farang baby because they feel that mix produces a beautiful child.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the response. It seems like punters leave it to the girl to determine if she'll get pregnant.
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Really?
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2598012]At today's exchange rate 15,000 baht is $461 USD. 7,000 baht is $215. I've never heard of any girl even in a Thailand GoGo ask above 4,000 baht. You got those numbers right? Seems very expensive.[/QUOTE]Visit a few popular Thai Escort sites and you will see plenty of girls listing 7,000+ baht as their Long Time/Overnight rate with 3,000+ baht as their standard 2 hour Short Time rate.
The girl I was referring to in that more than year ago comment about an incident that happened well before that was easily the caliber of the best of the Escorts on those sites in terms of attractiveness in person, sight seen, and not based on photoshopped pics on a website. She was a Freelancer, not working in a go-go bar. I met her online and we met in person at a regular hotel bar. She would have been a top go-go bargirl if she had wanted to do that.
I had met many Bangkok go-go girls during normal times who quoted 5,000 and not budge from 4,000 for Long Time. A Long Time that might not even begin until 1am and, if taken, would end when she left the room no later than 8am the next morning. Add the barfine and a few Ladydrinks and the customer had easily paid 7,000 for a purported "Long Time" with one of those girls. And it might never come close to the kind of Real BB+CIP Sex and Real Blowjob to a Swallow finish I got with that girl between about 10pm and Noon the next day.
I don't see the 7,000 baht I once paid to such a girl for that amount of time and experience out of line with anything going on or reported on this site during normal times.
But, yeah, it was expensive. Not my usual style for sure. That's why I only did such a thing once, out of curiosity. But lots and lots of guys paid that much for less and paid it often back during normal times.
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[QUOTE=Vendelo;2598208]I've barebacked in Thailand, USA and Mexico.
Do the BBFS Thai girls use any type of birth control or are they just gambling with pregnancy?[/QUOTE]The few times I have asked Thai freelancers about what kind of birth control they used, if any, a surprising number of them said they got the tiny time -release pellets implanted in their arm. Lasts 6 months or whatever. Kind of surprised me since that form of birth control seemed more invasive than I thought a Thai girl would be willing to do. I asked one girl how much that version costs and she just shrugged and said she didn't remember, not expensive.
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2598268]BBFS in Mexico is not common, at least not for me, so I can't comment.
BBFS is common in Thailand and I'm assuming many girls are not using any form of birth control. I base this view on the following comments I've had from the girls: (a) I'll get Plan B. (b) Do you promise you've had a vasectomy? (c) If I get pregnant, will you come to hospital with me for abortion? I don't want to do that alone again. (d) I want a mixed Thai-farang baby.
That last comment Ive heard a couple of times after Ive explained that Ive had a vasectomy. I dont understand the attitude of wanting a baby from a customer, though I do understand many Thai girls want a mixed Thai-farang baby because they feel that mix produces a beautiful child.[/QUOTE]Bargirls having babies with Farangs are very rare. I do know one bargirl who came to Pattaya to have a Farang baby, though.
The ladies, as a rule, fuck waaay too many Thai men instead, and many spit out multiple Thai babies over the years.
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[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2598261]If I recall correctly, the old Lords Palace soapy massage experience started at about 6,000 baht and went up to about 11,000 baht, the price depended on which girl you selected. That was for a 90-minute session in a spacious beautiful room with very large bathtub and comfortable bed. BBBJ and CFS was included. Some included DFK while others didn't. This, of course, is a different experience than a freelancer or go-go girl in your place.[/QUOTE]Maybe you got the tourist price. The Lord was 3800-7000 ish it was even on the little book they would hand you. Some of the mama / papasans did not care for farang and others were quite nice.
Maria near ratchada 17 is the current high end, starts 5000 ish and goes up to 15 k.
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The Pill
[QUOTE=Vendelo;2598208]I've barebacked in Thailand, USA and Mexico.
Do the BBFS Thai girls use any type of birth control or are they just gambling with pregnancy?[/QUOTE]They take the pill, I've talked with many about it and have seen the pill cards. This applies to all the Filipina's as well. With the amount of times I've nutted in these ladies-if they didn't I would have a whole brood of bastard children and that clearly is not the case.
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Crazy House
I frequented Crazy House in most of my visits to Bangkok and it was usually 3,000 BHT for short time. Some of that was the car fine. That included BBBJ and CFS. CIM and COF were extra. I was living in Europe at the time, so I was happy to pay it since you'd pay at least twice that for an equally pretty girl there. I also was always able to find a girl who pushed all of my buttons going there, so I was very happy with the whole thing.
But now that I've done more research, I might try to find girls through other means when things open back up. It seems like I can get more for less, and with someone just as pretty if I am willing to hunt around.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2598354]The few times I have asked Thai freelancers about what kind of birth control they used, if any, a surprising number of them said they got the tiny time -release pellets implanted in their arm. Lasts 6 months or whatever. Kind of surprised me since that form of birth control seemed more invasive than I thought a Thai girl would be willing to do. I asked one girl how much that version costs and she just shrugged and said she didn't remember, not expensive.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply.
Always enjoy your posts.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2597987]And for those who believe a Thai girl, hooker or not, wouldn't reveal the fact that they had gotten an STI or STD out of shame or worry about people avoiding them, I heard that same thing about Covid,. Not so. Lol. These girls buy self-testing kits and mass report every false and true positive result complete with selfies of them laying in bed with a compress on their forehead.[/QUOTE]Really ET.
You bareback I don't so perhaps we move in different mongering circles where the girls behave differently.
In my 20 plus years living here all I can say in my experience lots of girls when you get to know them well enough depending on how long they have been in the profession will admit to having had a STD themselves or at least know somebody who has.
They understandably don't readily talk about it and most certainly do not mass report or post selfies of themselves recovering from a STD.
More often than not after their first experience they stop doing bareback.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2598354]The few times I have asked Thai freelancers about what kind of birth control they used, if any, a surprising number of them said they got the tiny time -release pellets implanted in their arm. Lasts 6 months or whatever. Kind of surprised me since that form of birth control seemed more invasive than I thought a Thai girl would be willing to do. I asked one girl how much that version costs and she just shrugged and said she didn't remember, not expensive.[/QUOTE]Totally true what you say! In Pattaya, I fucked few times a girlfriend whose name is Pony. She became a nice girlfriend I love to fuck 1 time each time I go Pattaya. At the beginning I paid her 1500 and now because I like her I give her 2000 and I always fuck her BB and come inside her pussy. And one time I fucked her a second time in the shower, and did another CIP and asked her if she takes pills. And she told me like you, she has a pellet implanted in her arm, and she showed me her arm, I touched the pellet. She told me she can't be pregnant.
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[QUOTE=IHeartIpa;2598358]Maybe you got the tourist price. The Lord was 3800-7000 ish it was even on the little book they would hand you. Some of the mama / papasans did not care for farang and others were quite nice.
Maria near ratchada 17 is the current high end, starts 5000 ish and goes up to 15 k.[/QUOTE]Special farang price. 555.
My last visit there was November 2017. The 6,000 to 11,000 prices that I remember were on the printed card that they gave me.
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[QUOTE=Gilolo;2598576]she told me like you, she has a pellet implanted in her arm, and she showed me her arm, I touched the pellet. She told me she can't be pregnant.[/QUOTE]It is called Norplant. Very commonly used.
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[QUOTE=Franciscass;2598549]Really ET.
You bareback I don't so perhaps we move in different mongering circles where the girls behave differently.
In my 20 plus years living here all I can say in my experience lots of girls when you get to know them well enough depending on how long they have been in the profession will admit to having had a STD themselves or at least know somebody who has.
They understandably don't readily talk about it and most certainly do not mass report or post selfies of themselves recovering from a STD.
More often than not after their first experience they stop doing bareback.[/QUOTE]Well, Franciscass, if your last assessment is true then, as some of us have surmised, the vast, vast majority of Thai P4P girls must not have ever gotten an STI or STD from going bareback because it appears to be the extremely rare one both new to game and veterans who will not agree to go bareback either quite easily and quickly or as long as the customer continues to pester her, push for it, ply her with more alcohol, catch her late enough at night or simply offers her more baht for it.
And I doubt those are all more likely their "first time" to go bareback rather than their 100th+ time to go bareback.
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Birth control implants.
[QUOTE=Gilolo;2598576]Totally true what you say! In Pattaya, I fucked few times a girlfriend whose name is Pony. She became a nice girlfriend I love to fuck 1 time each time I go Pattaya. At the beginning I paid her 1500 and now because I like her I give her 2000 and I always fuck her BB and come inside her pussy. And one time I fucked her a second time in the shower, and did another CIP and asked her if she takes pills. And she told me like you, she has a pellet implanted in her arm, and she showed me her arm, I touched the pellet. She told me she can't be pregnant.[/QUOTE]There's a few brands of implants used in Thailand.
Some observations of mine about them and their use.
- you're unlikely / less likely to find younger Thai girls using them.
As they make it significantly more difficult to get pregnant later on if you've used them a lot.
And most Thai girls want to have children, so they don't care too much about getting pregnant (especially Isaan girls).
- from mid 20's onwards most working girls will be using implants.
Even newbies to the scene will be using them, or trying them, especially if they already have kids.
One reason for this is financial, in that for most of them it stops their period all together.
And who wouldn't want to increase their available workable days from 25 to 30 a month.
20% more workdays equals 20% more income opportunities.
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2598732]Well, Franciscass, if your last assessment is true then, as some of us have surmised, the vast, vast majority of Thai P4P girls must not have ever gotten an STI or STD from going bareback because it appears to be the extremely rare one both new to game and veterans who will not agree to go bareback either quite easily and quickly or as long as the customer continues to pester her, push for it, ply her with more alcohol, catch her late enough at night or simply offers her more baht for it.
And I doubt those are all more likely their "first time" to go bareback rather than their 100th+ time to go bareback.[/QUOTE]Perhaps I'm just lucky I can enjoy sex without taking unnecessary health risks consequently I'm not familiar with the ease of getting a girl to either readily or with some effort to go bareback.
Seems ET you negotiate BB before going to the room so you would be unfamiliar with what the norm is without this requisite already agreed.
I can only say that in my experience a condom is introduced even occasionally for the BJ (a no no for me) but almost always for the boom boom.
I don't know how easy it is to get her to change her mind. Perhaps as you suggest plying her with alcohol, pushing her, pestering her, offering her more baht alongside the lateness of the hour easily and quickly changes her mind.
Perhaps I should check it out just to see what happens.
Who knows I might get a "oh thank you so much, I no like condom, love you fuck me and finish in my pussy".