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I heard that Dee's Place some 10 or 15 years ago didn't have any of that nonsense.[/QUOTE]Dee's opened around 2003 if I remember correctly. Almost the exact same time as My Bar (although Dee's did open a year or two before My Bar). Back in those days just before Dee's. Top Gun, Oscars, and Lintas Melawai were the hot spots on the Blok. The old routine was to grab something to eat at Sportsmans, then go to Top Gun early, head to Oscars around 10 or 11 pm, then hit Lintas Melawai at the Hotel Melawai by around 1 or 2 am and it went until around 5 am. Girls from all over Jakarta would end up at Lintas Melawai since places like Bats, Cjs, tiga puluh and the karaoke places closed earlier than Lintas. Tanamur and JJ's were still open back in those days as well. What a great time to be in Jakarta! Even back then, the old ladies were still hanging around in the corners of most places. The VIP room at Dees in the early days was so small, I don't remember them hanging out in there. I didn't go in that old vip room often because it was just too small. It didn't evolve into what it is now until they moved to the new location where it is now (Dees used to be next to Sportsmans). But just outside that old vip room, there were plenty of the old women looking for a handout.
From what I understand, most of those old hags used to be hookers on the Blok years and years ago. They never landed a "sponsor" with any money and are still on the Blok because they don't know anything else. A buddy of mine who used to live in Jakarta in the late 80's and early 90's came to town recently. I was shocked when he was fondling one of those old scrags. He told me that back in the late 80's she was the hottest girl on the Blok (I'd have never guessed it), and he thinks maybe he should have even married her. (what the heck?) I can understand him buying her beers and throwing her some money for old times sake. But he actually took her home that night and I think she ended up staying with him an entire month!
Hilo, I do agree that those old women can be a good way of getting introduced to the new and innocent girls. If one of those old women can hook me up with the lovely Miss Pretty, I would be willing to give the old woman a 500 k facilitation payment, no problem. As far as "security" in the back room, if I were to get a BJ back there, I would fine with giving 50 k to the old scrag if she gave me a good massage while she was providing that BJ "security". I do agree that the girls end up giving those women the money if you don't, but I think those old women should actually do a little something to earn the 50 k. Those women have strong hands, why not take advantage of that.
Egy, giving the satpams money is a good idea. That's one of the best suggestions to anyone. You never know what kind of trouble that could save you. The Blok is basically run by the mafia and although it's safe most times, it does have potential dangers. I know a guy who has slipped them money for years, and the one time he had trouble on the blok, it was amazing how quickly the satpams took care of the situation in his favor.
