German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2111627]Since you didn't specify how much is that "x", I suggest you are being too modest in your ambition. You could buy an FKK club in fact with a big enough x and audition the new girls bareback (as a friend of mine said all the club managers do 🤓

And when that is not enough, pick out a girl you fancy and threaten to kick her out due to some fictitious customer complaint; and then fuck her in return for letting her stay.

Just make sure the club has 50 E BBBJ for the rest of us while you enjoy your club ownership, as a penance for all your past writings. LOL.[/QUOTE]Well it is never good to fuck your own workers, so better to visit, less problem than owning one LOL.

I prefer being the client than owner.

I am sure if you continue to fuck your own girl in FKK as a owner, you be like a famous movie producer situation LOL.

The whole point is us being 50 euro per 30 min kinda guy, so we get away with it LOL.

Though with mild upsell I pay bit more than 50 euro per 30 min for GFE experience LOL.

But for Siri, it is no problem with manner and good attitude LOL.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2111627]You could buy an FKK club in fact with a big enough x and audition the new girls bareback (as a friend of mine said all the club managers do 🤓.[/QUOTE]Ya kebdy 3 aleyk, Jnpr30! Out here we have a saying: "A jamal-tajir 🐫 who cannot keep his fingers out of the camels is sure to give his customers a bumpy ride!" (Yeah I thought it lost something in the translation too.).

But you get the idea. It sucks for a manager to impose on the girls. It drives the quality away, and leaves the remainers cynical, with jaded performances. A point may come where the manager is encouraging the girls to look down on the customers rather than respect them, and then the line has been crossed where the manager is no longer a manager but a pimp.

This is a large part of what gives the industry a bad name, but parallels could be drawn with any industry starting with the movies.

Jnpr30, sounds like a good idea. We should invest with our "X" millions to buy the club. I would work for free as a club manager and screen all the girls for you.

[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2110668]Just returned from a Thanksgiving weekend in Germany and make me realized how out of the league I am, we are. Here on ISG, people discussed how and what they should get for 50 E /100 E session. I talked to couple girls, who became good friends with me. One girl told me about how this one client just took her on a shopping spree of 10,000 Euro with things like LV bag, shoes, etc. Buying her a new car, and transferred her 20 K to her acct for Christmas holidays. This other girl also told me how this one client paid for 3 K business class seat for her to fly to meet him at this one tropical island (don't want to name it, for privacy reason), gave her 10 K for this weekend getaway, etc. (I know this for a fact because I helped her choose the seat on the plane).

Just make me realize that I am so out of the league and cannot compete with such clients. Though the girls enjoy spending time with me but man, a weekend getaway, with that much money, I will suck the guy dick too, LOL.[/QUOTE]A little late to the conversation here, but just a few thoughts:

While this seems exorbitant when you compare it to the 50 E you're paying for sex (and it is exorbitant on that scale alone) -- I can imagine these guys getting something else for the money they spend, which is to get that look in her eyes, have her excited to see you -- even if she is just excited to see your wallet. I've been frequenting FKKs for awhile, and even with the most enthusiastic performers, it's nice when I get some genuine emotion. I can imagine myself paying for that, if I could afford it.

Of course, you can achieve genuine emotion without spending a lot of money, but it's a lot harder. Getting a non-performative GFE reaction from these girls is like getting the number from the hot bartender -- they see so many guys, they know all the tricks. Heck, it even thrills me in the civilian world when I'm able to show a woman something she hasn't seen before... if she's younger and prettier, all the better. And for some of these guys, who spend little time around beautiful women, and all their time around dudes like them in order to make money, it's hard to develop the social skills to get that reaction from a beautiful woman in any other way.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2111244]Well if I have x million euro or whatever is discussed here lately.

I will live in FKK, get delivered 5 star food there, but I will just live in FKK everyday from after lunch till like 11 PM-ish till I go home, and upon arriving home I will order escort for final sex before sleep and she stay to sex me up in following morning. [/QUOTE]There are a few guys at all of the clubs who are local and live this life already. Heck, one of them posts here regularly! I think you get jaded after awhile. The girls start to get very familiar. I'm often tempted to live like them, but perhaps it's better just to keep it a fantasy. Many of the girls will even talk about these guys and the dangers of being there too often!

[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2111974]There are a few guys at all of the clubs who are local and live this life already. Heck, one of them posts here regularly! I think you get jaded after awhile. The girls start to get very familiar. I'm often tempted to live like them, but perhaps it's better just to keep it a fantasy. Many of the girls will even talk about these guys and the dangers of being there too often![/QUOTE]I kind of sometimes feels more I become regular client, service goes up and then it peaked out and then it decline and they become mechanical and they eventually begin to be distant somehow because they realize you are nothing but a Hentai client who pay LOL.

Anyways, yeah I had similar experience. The girl was talking to me about quiting FKK industry few years ago, which she did that I respect.

However, when she was telling me how she is going to quit, she also told me that you too have to quit coming to FKK and think about marry since I am hitting 40's in few years and I am quite presentable appearance well but I admit that with messed up internal view on world which lead me seek life goals in German FKK LOL.

On the same note, I met this African American gents from Miami during this trip, had very nice chat at bar, he told me one wise thing that echoes.

If you marry, marry the girl who is much richer than you, if not do not do it.

I totally agree because if we think about it, we mongers married long time ago, it was a secret marriage called professional mongering LOL.

We pro mongers have two marriage in life if we marry, one is wife and another is prostitutes that we often marry for set period of time.

So based on this mongering is secret marriage rule, I think it is best to marry girl who is much richer than you, if you cannot achieve that, then just marry to monger life. Best of both world and we cannot lose either way.

Rich girl is only choice for marriage give that I can somehow control the situation LOL.

[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2111972]A little late to the conversation here, but just a few thoughts:

While this seems exorbitant when you compare it to the 50 E you're paying for sex (and it is exorbitant on that scale alone) -- I can imagine these guys getting something else for the money they spend, which is to get that look in her eyes, have her excited to see you -- even if she is just excited to see your wallet. I've been frequenting FKKs for awhile, and even with the most enthusiastic performers, it's nice when I get some genuine emotion. I can imagine myself paying for that, if I could afford it.

Of course, you can achieve genuine emotion without spending a lot of money, but it's a lot harder. Getting a non-performative GFE reaction from these girls is like getting the number from the hot bartender -- they see so many guys, they know all the tricks. Heck, it even thrills me in the civilian world when I'm able to show a woman something she hasn't seen before... if she's younger and prettier, all the better. And for some of these guys, who spend little time around beautiful women, and all their time around dudes like them in order to make money, it's hard to develop the social skills to get that reaction from a beautiful woman in any other way.[/QUOTE]Excellent points. We forget, in a free market the fools will be taken. Most guys with big money are not fools. The talk among those who cannot afford an expensive luxury is often, "it is not worth it, or there is no difference. " That is sometimes true, but in most cases there is a difference. The issue if whether you can afford it. As you become wealthier, you learn to appreciate the subtle differences and seek out the exceptions. Think of it like fine wine. The guy that buys bottles over 100 has trained his palate to appreciate the superior quality that many who have not experienced it will notice or appreciate. The downside is, one you have tasted the best, it is hard to go back.

[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2111972]it's nice when I get some genuine emotion. I can imagine myself paying for that, if I could afford it.

Of course, you can achieve genuine emotion without spending a lot of money, but it's a lot harder. Getting a non-performative GFE reaction from these girls is like getting the number from the hot bartender[/QUOTE]Getting "genuine" emotion (towards yourself as a person and not your money) by paying a lot of money is a contradiction. Usually the girls get their orgasm when you pay them, intensity varying with the amount you pay them.

Getting genuine emotion without paying (or paying a lot) does happen, that is the kick many guys are looking for. Many guys think they achieved it without realizing they are getting played with and still are the ATM most girls see them as. Over the years you develop a kind of relationship to some girls that is not or not only based on money. To some girls. It's pay for sex and that's what it was is in 99% of the time. Or better put: It's pay for the girl's time, so many guys don't even have sex.

Those guys totally lost touch with reality. There is something else in life than going to saunaclubs. I'm totally aware that I'm getting more and more addicted to those places, spending too much money instead of buying a flat, fixing my car, and so on, but at least I can still enjoy other things in life.

[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;2111601]Yea I don't know. I certainly don't feel like a 1 per center with $300 k. Still flying economy class LOL! Yea also with my profession even if I crack $100 million mark I'm certain I won't know any celebrity friends. My social network is just a bunch of quants, nerdy guys good with math, I'm certain at keas.[/QUOTE]Ex-boss was an engineer. That's why he invested in nightclubs. Trendy ones where beautiful people, athletes, celebrities want to be seen. Although not FKK I am sure he received some auditions.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2112080]Those guys totally lost touch with reality. There is something else in life than going to saunaclubs. I'm totally aware that I'm getting more and more addicted to those places, spending too much money instead of buying a flat, fixing my car, and so on, but at least I can still enjoy other things in life.[/QUOTE]Well I already done other things in life like that and in part I did Cologne cathedral this time round as a cultural part of trip.

I am not addicted to FKK, I think it is not right word, I think I found the place where I can be real me and I am so happy to put my face between different girls ass crack on daily basis knowing I will never see them again.

It is melancholy and sentiment in FKK meeting and on the way back home as I look down Poland or wherever I am flying, somewhere down there, there are girls I fucked back in year 2010 or 2011 or 12 and so on living normal life or even married. I am just sky above you babies LOL LOL.

Mongering is the life and never marry unless the girl is much richer than you, we are monger who hunt tutes, so why not be tute ourselves too LOL.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2112094]Ex-boss was an engineer. That's why he invested in nightclubs. Trendy ones where beautiful people, athletes, celebrities want to be seen. Although not FKK I am sure he received some auditions.[/QUOTE]Investing in lightclubs are more of a gamble than a sound investment, much like restaurant businesses. Investing in those things requires a huge amount of knowledge, work, and dedication to make it, and some luck to make it a hit. There are much safer investments out there with returns much out weighing the "free" auditions. But I believe those "free" audition days are over or at least is over in the States. Now they'll give you the audition, then take the job for awhile and sue you for sexual harassment when you least expect, most likely look for a fat settlement, or even come for ownership of you successful nightclub. All of this takes place in civil court where absolute evidence isn't required and it all comes down to who is more believable. Nah I'll just hope interest rate will be at a healthy level when I hit my 10 million! LOL!

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2112094]Ex-boss was an engineer. That's why he invested in nightclubs. Trendy ones where beautiful people, athletes, celebrities want to be seen. Although not FKK I am sure he received some auditions.[/QUOTE]Investing in nightclubs are more of a gamble than a sound investment, much like restaurant businesses. Investing in those things requires a huge amount of knowledge, work, and dedication to make it, and some luck to make it a hit. There are much safer investments out there with returns much out weighing the "free" auditions. But I believe those "free" audition days are over or at least is over in the States. Now they'll give you the audition, then take the job for awhile and sue you for sexual harassment when you least expect, most likely look for a fat settlement, or even come for ownership of you successful nightclub. All of this takes place in civil court where absolute evidence isn't required and it all comes down to who is more believable. Nah I'll just hope interest rate will be at a healthy level when I hit my 10 million! LOL!

[QUOTE=RogueNation;2112056]Getting genuine emotion without paying (or paying a lot) does happen, that is the kick many guys are looking for. Many guys think they achieved it without realizing they are getting played with and still are the ATM most girls see them as. Over the years you develop a kind of relationship to some girls that is not or not only based on money. To some girls. It's pay for sex and that's what it was is in 99% of the time. Or better put: It's pay for the girl's time, so many guys don't even have sex.[/QUOTE]Well, if you feel you are getting the emotion, does it even matter if you are getting played? Angelina Jolie is a good actor, but she is only playing. Neither way, we still love some of her movies.

The pay for talking is foolish though. But it is like you say, they subsidize the rest of us.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2112121]Mongering is the life and never marry unless the girl is much richer than you, we are monger who hunt tutes, so why not be tute ourselves too LOL.[/QUOTE]Thats not a joke. I was talking to this hot girl and a friend of hers the other day at a club. The guy starts calling the girl a * since she has apparently fucked plenty of guys. Then she starts laughing but says she is not a tute any longer. She is with the friend of this guy and together now. The guy keeps calling her a * for several minutes and says he can see it in her eyes. A bit later before we are leaving the club the guy says he wants to call up a different girl to see if she wants to fuck. Because he wants pussy now. The girl leaves and I ask him why he doesn't go for this hot apparent * we were just talking to. He says no, because she is a * Inside I am laughing thinking he is a much more open and bigger * than she is. In fact I am too. Most girls are nothing compared to most guys on the * scale. We are the sluts in this world. Too many girls are just restricted and afraid of the label. While we don't give a shit and because we don't give a shit, we don't get the label. Funny how that works.