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[QUOTE=Syzygies;2075114]3 to 5 days is just an appetite wetter or the opposite.

Takes significant time to just get pronunciation going good, like months unless intensive.[/QUOTE]True. Understanding the pronunciations is very very important to keep the meaning of the word up to the point.

From my Lao learning experience, I even found out the same word could be pronounced in different ways to carry different meanings. For example, the word "Chao" in Lao can be pronounced like "Sao" or "Tchao" carrying different meanings.

Also, don't forget the fact that, Thai in Bangkok and in Isaan / border states near Malaysia are different. Recently, I went to a Tribal village near Chiang Mai where I found out the Tribal people's Thai is significantly different from mainstream Thai. They say people in southern Thailand tends to speak sweet Thai when compared to Isaan or northern part of Thailand.

So I will be arriving Friday AUG 25 AT 10 am in Bangkok after 27 hours of flight. Been contemplating booking a fast pass. I've read where lines have been long lately. I've also ready where most airlines give business class customers free fast pass. I've also read reports years back that said it was useless because regular line is usually empty for business class and you end up waiting for luggage which most of the passengers are already through lines. But things have changed since those reports. So does China Airlines offer a free fast pass service for business class? I contacted the airline but communication is a joke. Arriving at 10 am would it be worth buying a fast pass? It's relatively cheap. After such a long flight I'd like to make this painless. But don't want to buy one if given free through airline. Any suggestions?

[QUOTE=Stykler;2071682]I've arrived in Bangkok, first trip for a year or so. A question and an observation.

Firstly, does anyone know when and why The Office off Soi 33 closed down? I went there looking for a beer at about 2100 hrs last night and it was closed down. Disappointing for me as I have had some good times there in the past.

Next, has anyone noticed how fat Thai women are getting in Bangkok in particular as Thailand getting more Westernized? I've got to say it's disappointing. Why the fuck Thai women want to look more like the fat Bush pigs we have to put up with in the west has got me stuffed. Has anyone else noticed this as well or is it an illusion?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Many years ago, it was quite common for the married Thai ladies to let themselves go, say from the age of 35 to 40, and get fat. Some good examples of famous high up people in Thai society.

However the modern problem is the big increase in the numbers of fat 20 to 30 year olds, probably due to western diets. Too much sugar and starch.

It is noticeable that bar girls have become a lot fatter recently as well due to crackdown on drugs, such as Yaa Baa, Ice, etc. There are still some girls in the P4 P industry using drugs as a weight loss mechanism. Saw a new girl in Sharks that was quite pretty, but she just needs to loose about 10 Kg. LOL Young but quite unnecessarily chubby.

[QUOTE=ThatGuy68;2075304]So does China Airlines offer a free fast pass service for business class? [/QUOTE]Yes, both ways.

So I was recently in Thailand, and I kinda fell for a bar girl. Yeah I know! But anyways, I kept in touch with her after through her Facebook and I would send pics, she would send pics, and I would say I miss you, she would back. Yada yada but yesterday she wrote the following:

"When you come back again we go hunnymoon OK?

Is this a new term for long, long time? Meaning like a week? I'm fine with that, I just hope she isn't thinking marriage as that wasn't discussed. We had a great time and I want to see her again but.

[QUOTE=Hack351;2075447]So I was recently in Thailand, and I kinda fell for a bar girl. Yeah I know! But anyways, I kept in touch with her after through her Facebook and I would send pics, she would send pics, and I would say I miss you, she would back. Yada yada but yesterday she wrote the following:

"When you come back again we go hunnymoon OK?

Is this a new term for long, long time? Meaning like a week? I'm fine with that, I just hope she isn't thinking marriage as that wasn't discussed. We had a great time and I want to see her again but.[/QUOTE]IMHO, you need to engage in managing expectations. Don't know if you are game to keeping her as a second wife.

[QUOTE=Hack351;2075447]So I was recently in Thailand, and I kinda fell for a bar girl. Yeah I know! But anyways, I kept in touch with her after through her Facebook and I would send pics, she would send pics, and I would say I miss you, she would back. Yada yada but yesterday she wrote the following:

"When you come back again we go hunnymoon OK?

Is this a new term for long, long time? Meaning like a week? I'm fine with that, I just hope she isn't thinking marriage as that wasn't discussed. We had a great time and I want to see her again but.[/QUOTE]Laugh make a joke out of it see her response she might be treading the water. Most likely she want a free vacation with you and you get hopefully a fun companion. Risk is she does a personality change on you and think it's okay to expect going expensive shopping.

Roll the dice and see what you get!

[QUOTE=Hack351;2075447]So I was recently in Thailand, and I kinda fell for a bar girl. Yeah I know! But anyways, I kept in touch with her after through her Facebook and I would send pics, she would send pics, and I would say I miss you, she would back. Yada yada but yesterday she wrote the following:

"When you come back again we go hunnymoon OK?

Is this a new term for long, long time? Meaning like a week? I'm fine with that, I just hope she isn't thinking marriage as that wasn't discussed. We had a great time and I want to see her again but.[/QUOTE]For the best answer is to ask her.

Huh? What you mean hunny?

My advice is let it go and treat it as a Google language translation error. I would assume she is just referring to a romantic getaway. Never use the word "Honeymoon" or refer to it again and she will most likely never use the term again either. I am pretty sure the girl did not intend it to mean more than a romantic tryst. If she were a Filipina it might have the marital meaning, many Filipinas have proposed to me LOL, but this would be a very strange and unusual proposal coming from a Thai girl. Thai girls are usually not that forward.

Now ask yourself this: do YOU want to take this girl on a little romantic holiday? If your answer is yes, then respond to her chat with a casual suggestion or invitation saying that it would be nice to go somewhere together for a few days and refer to it as a romantic holiday, or beach holiday, or hill country getaway. 3 nights is about the right amount of time for a first time trip together. Every day longer than 3 days dramatically increases the odds of something going wrong. Keep in mind, you are not going to be making love all the time, in fact, the majority of your time together will be doing other things, including doing mundane things, so make sure you are compatible and that you go somewhere that you both can enjoy like Phuket or Ko Chang (the beach) or Chiang Mai, Chiang Rai, or Mae Hong Son. (the Hill Country)

[URL]http://wikitravel.org/en/Mae_Hong_Son_Loop[/URL]).

If you are unsure about taking her somewhere then don't bring up the idea again and let it whither on the vine. Just say you are looking forward to seeing her again and leave it at that.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2075674]My advice[/QUOTE]OK, thanks for the quick replies! Natty thanks for the 3 day length suggestion. Sounds like the right amount and yes, I would love to take her on a romantic getaway. I'm curious how the bar compensation will be but it won't be till next year anyway.

[QUOTE=WindAngel;2075444]Yes, both ways.[/QUOTE]You're the man! Was just about to book to play it safe! Thanks!

[QUOTE=Hack351;2075447]So I was recently in Thailand, and I kinda fell for a bar girl. Yeah I know! But anyways, I kept in touch with her after through her Facebook and I would send pics, she would send pics, and I would say I miss you, she would back. Yada yada but yesterday she wrote the following:

"When you come back again we go hunnymoon OK?

Is this a new term for long, long time? Meaning like a week? I'm fine with that, I just hope she isn't thinking marriage as that wasn't discussed. We had a great time and I want to see her again but.[/QUOTE]I have had Thai girls, both P4 P and regular date girls, use the term "honeymoon / hunnymoon" many times. They have never meant it to be related to getting married and, in my memory, not even pushing for a 2-3 day trip out of town together, although they all like the idea of that. They have always only meant a night of sex together. Especially with bargirls, the joke goes something like, "Honeymoon tonight, divorce tomorrow!" LOL.

[QUOTE=Hack351;2075447]So I was recently in Thailand, and I kinda fell for a bar girl. Yeah I know! But anyways, I kept in touch with her after through her Facebook and I would send pics, she would send pics, and I would say I miss you, she would back. Yada yada but yesterday she wrote the following:

"When you come back again we go hunnymoon OK?

Is this a new term for long, long time? Meaning like a week? I'm fine with that, I just hope she isn't thinking marriage as that wasn't discussed. We had a great time and I want to see her again but.[/QUOTE]As has been said. Likely a longer more focused time and / or trip to a destination is what she's meaning.

My lone experience 'falling' for a WG (a thermae girl) went differently and I've been meaning to post, so why not now?

I met this girl at Thermae in March. Went with her 3 consecutive nights on a BKK trip. On the third night we exchanged Whatsapp info and chatted the weeks following. Talk from her went from 'when will you be back?' to 'I love you honey, we should be together' kinda talk. No asks for money, but I thought I was smitten. We messaged almost daily and it escalated to video chats, etc. I had a trip planned to BKK for work in May and we discussed her staying with me when I returned.

I arrived in BKK in May and she met me at my hotel, and as discussed she stayed with me for the week; save for a 2 day trip to Pattaya. When I was in-country (and in Pattaya) she and I spent most of out time together, but I explored the MP scene in BKK as well as the 2 days in Pattaya where I had a great time. In her world I was in BKK to be with her, in mine I was there for work (she knew) as well as to play (she must have known, but I didn't explicitly state). We had a great time together. Dinners out, dancing at nightclubs, etc. Overall it was a great trip. Mix of a GFE caring girl at my beck and call, but the freedom to step out and explore a bit.

When I got back home the messaging and video chats ramped up. She started talking about "love" and "marriage" in ways that had never been discussed before. At first I was flattered. She's 10+ years my junior but I'm not stupid. Things were fine for a while but then it got crazy. She went home to get her papers in order to get a passport and make sure her papers were in order to marry a foreigner. She wanted to video chat with me and her parents to allow us to get to know each other. Also, she started getting super suspicious / jealous / angry if I wasn't available to chat / video with her when it was convenient for her. WTF. She fucks dudes for money and she's grilling me about my daily life and who I'm seeing / what I'm doing on a daily basis. Not good. I travel a lot for work (US, asia, and europe) and I'm often out with customers, colleauges, etc and in different time-zones, so being her 'on demand' boyfriend wasn't in the cards.

I ended up blocking her on Whatsapp and WeChat, as well as blacklisting her number on my cell for calls / texts. That was 2 mos ago she still to this day texts me (blocked, but I get a notification) about once or twice a week. She also found me on facebook (whatsapp is now owned by FB, so be careful) so I had to change my privacy settings to block her from my personal feed.

Long story short. For those of us that visit the land of smiles for a nice GFE experience and consider keeping in touch with that 'special girl' you meet one night; think twice about how you connect. Whatsapp exposes your phone number. If you want to share info, consider WeChat instead. Also, if you return for a longer experience, keep tabs on things.

[QUOTE=FormulaOneFan;2075857]
When I got back home the messaging and video chats ramped up. She started talking about "love" and "marriage" in ways that had never been discussed before. At first I was flattered. She's 10+ years my junior but I'm not stupid. Things were fine for a while but then it got crazy. She went home to get her papers in order to get a passport and make sure her papers were in order to marry a foreigner. She wanted to video chat with me and her parents to allow us to get to know each other. Also, she started getting super suspicious / jealous / angry if I wasn't available to chat / video with her when it was convenient for her. WTF. She fucks dudes for money and she's grilling me about my daily life and who I'm seeing / what I'm doing on a daily basis. Not good. I travel a lot for work (US, asia, and europe) and I'm often out with customers, colleauges, etc and in different time-zones, so being her 'on demand' boyfriend wasn't in the cards.
[/QUOTE]This type of Thai love is typically different from Farang love. Thais have economic love where they consider what guy might be best for their future and a pathway to be give up hooking and be supported. I had an ex Thai GF extremely jealous, but it was more like guarding her property, than like a Farang romance.

You made the right decision. You want a far more sensible girl. Real love should arrive very slowly indeed and also not disappear easily too. Fall for a girl quick, and likely will lose interest real quick too, or just find she is not really a match at all.

Even my long term current Thai GF admits that initially she was with me more for economic reasons than anything else. She had no money and economic difficulties. Respite from that was really great for her. She did not expect me to stick to her long term. She was extremely untrusting of guys in general, whether Thai or Farang. Certainly she was not going to fall for me real quickly. Eventually we became more like a normal couple but took a lot of time. After many years she has got used to us being a couple, and trusts that I am reliable and not likely to dump her for no reason. We are not perfectly suited sexually, but otherwise quite good.

[QUOTE=Hack351;2075447]So I was recently in Thailand, and I kinda fell for a bar girl. Yeah I know! But anyways, I kept in touch with her after through her Facebook and I would send pics, she would send pics, and I would say I miss you, she would back. Yada yada but yesterday she wrote the following:

"When you come back again we go hunnymoon OK?

Is this a new term for long, long time? Meaning like a week? I'm fine with that, I just hope she isn't thinking marriage as that wasn't discussed. We had a great time and I want to see her again but.[/QUOTE]I have taken several Thai girls away for a fake "honeymoon" and had a great time, but be wary about falling for them. You don't really know a girl till have been with her at least 2 years, and probably longer if meet only part time.

Best to just see it as a holiday with a temporary fun wife, and plenty of "hunny". Thai girls can make really excellent temporary wives. Can be better than a real GF. I paid them to be my temporary wife, to avoid romance implications.

Last year took my regular Gik to Singapore for 3 days and had a great time. However Singapore is a bit too expensive.