American Politics

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2721349]Moreover, the only group in the Federal Government that seriously "Defunded the Police" was the Republican Party in the House of Representatives.

Unanimously.

[B]'Republicans are defunding the police: Fox News anchor stumps congressman[/B]

[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jun/28/chris-wallace-republicans-defunding-the-police-fox-news-congressman-jim-banks[/URL]

Being a "Conservative Republican" is obviously a mental disorder.[/QUOTE]Yes the die hard Republican states: California, Oregon, New York, Washington all run by Republican governors and Republican senators have defunded the police and crime is up 100%. Really? You really believe Republicans in California are defunding the police and are to blame? Do you really believe even one other democrat believes this? Do you really believe there are any dumb people on this forum that would actually agree with you? Democrat lies are why these states are riddled with crime. Democrats taking no responsibility and blaming others. Really working out well for Biden.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2721215]Biden fails to secure oil and regional security commitments at Arab summit ([URL]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/biden-fails-to-secure-oil-and-regional-security-commitments-at-arab-summit/ar-AAZG3R0[/URL]).

Who's surprised? Ok, let the Libtards start defending these failures with lame excuses and blaming Trump, Republicans or anyone else. Or even more ridiculous, calling these successes? LOL.[/QUOTE]No One is surprised. Biden is a laughing stock in Saudi. Once again Biden made an overseas trip and was an embarrassment to the USA. Demonstrating weakness by a president does not bode well for Americans. Biden begging the Saudi prince for more oil does not bode well for Americans either. Putin is meeting with Iran and Turkey leaders this week and Biden is still trying to do a deal with Iran to help the terrorist nation get stronger. To help Russia too. Biden has taken less than 2 years to overtake Carter as the dumbest and worst president ever. We know it. 95% of democrats know it but only 42% of democrats admit it. Saudi knows it. The world knows it.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2721349]Moreover, the only group in the Federal Government that seriously "Defunded the Police" was the Republican Party in the House of Representatives.

Being a "Conservative Republican" is obviously a mental disorder.[/QUOTE]We need to take a poll on what is most delusional: Carter being a good president, Republicans defunding the police, or your making money in this stock market investing with.

Biden.

Shit, I could sell you ice in Alaska just by saying it is for the cause of Democrats.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2721111]Even if we let this comparison of "foreseeing issues in strategy mistakes" with a "broken watch", which on its own is completely meaningless, stick for the sake of debating, libtards didn't even realize what's coming that even a broken watch can correctly tell. From this, we infer that libtards are even worse (in foreseeing results of any strategy) then a broken watch. Agree?[/QUOTE][blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]

Donnie the Dumbass said that Germany imported too much Russian gas from Russia. Here's what we know:

World Jul 11,2018 3:29 PM EDT.

BRUSSELS — President Donald Trump wasted no time in escalating his verbal attacks on Germany in the opening leg of his European tour. Seated across from NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg at breakfast Wednesday morning ahead of the alliance's meeting, Trump expanded his criticism beyond how little – in his view – Europe's most powerful economy spends on defense to target where they buy their energy.

"Germany is totally controlled by Russia," he said. "They will be getting between 60 and 70 percent of their energy from Russia and a new pipeline. ".

But those numbers aren't correct. Here's what we know about the pipeline and the broader fight over natural gas exports.

Trump was referring to the Nord Stream 2 Pipeline that is being built under the Baltic Sea between Russia and Germany. Gazprom, Russia's natural gas producer, is building it alongside an existing pipeline of the same name. Several European energy companies, including Royal Dutch Shell and France's Engie, are providing billions in funding.

But Trump's assertion that the pipeline will provide 60 to 70 percent of Germany's energy is incorrect. While Russia will be able to increase the amount of natural gas it sells to Germany through the pipeline, Russian gas will only provide a sliver of the overall energy Germany needs. Germany's energy comes from a diverse mix of oil, coal and renewables. Less than one fifth of the country's power is powered by natural gas; at the moment, just 9 percent of the country's power is generated by Russian gas.

That said, when Nord Stream 2 is completed, it will increase the amount of natural gas Germany gets from Russia. It will also allow Russia to send more of its gas to Germany and its European customers through Germany, therefore bypassing Ukraine, with which Russia is engaged in conflict. Ukraine has long argued Russia wants to both deprive it of badly needed income that it collects for the transit of Russian gas to the rest of Europe and also increase the continent's dependence on Russian energy.

Trump complained Germany is "making Russia richer. " When the NATO secretary general told Trump trade was a separate matter, Trump fired back. "How can you be together when a country is getting its energy from the person you want protection against or from the group that you want protection against?" he asked. "I think it is a very bad thing for NATO and I don't think it should have happened and I think we have to talk to Germany about it. " From Trump's perspective, trading with adversaries is bad business.

It's not just the Germans who are in the words of Trump "paying the Russians billions. " Along with gas from Norway, Algeria and Qatar, Europe gets more than a third of its gas from Russia. Tens of thousands of American homes burned Russian natural gas this winter. The gas itself was produced and liquefied by a joint venture between the French energy company Total and Novatek, a company which has been subjected to USA Financial sanctions.

The Europeans have long been concerned about an over-dependence on Russian energy and moved to diversify their sources of supply. And Trump is not the only critic of the Nord Stream 2 Pipeline. At a meeting earlier this week with Ukraine's President Petro Poroshenko, European Council President Donald Tusk said "Nord Stream 2 is a mistake and will not best serve European interests. It is against our strategic interests, our security, and also our rules. ".

It's important to point out that German Chancellor Angela Merkel has herself called for the construction of terminals that would enable Germany to take in liquefied natural gas from other countries, including the United States. And, this March, standing alongside Poroshenko, she acknowledged the politics surrounding Nord Stream 2 and that Germany would demand Russia outline how it plans to use the existing pipelines in Ukraine after Nord Stream 2's completion. Prior to that, she had maintained the Nord Stream 2 pipeline was a purely "economical project. ".

President Donald Trump meets with German Chancellor Angela Merkel during the NATO summit in Brussels, Belgium on July 11. Photo by Kevin Lamarque / ReutersPresident Donald Trump meets with German Chancellor Angela Merkel during the NATO summit in Brussels, Belgium on July 11. Photo by Kevin Lamarque / Reuters.

What Trump didn't say Wednesday is where he thinks Germany should get its gas. But he has made his stance on the issue known, to Germany and other world leaders. On the world stage, Trump has become the USA Natural gas industry's salesman-in-chief, telling a steady stream of foreign leaders from Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi to South Korean President Moon Jae-in that they should buy their gas from the USA Last year, on a visit to Poland, Trump vowed to raise USA Natural gas exports to Europe.

USA Energy producers would love to export natural gas to Europe. The USA Is awash in gas. The so-called "shale revolution" — the combination of American innovation and technology that has enabled producers to get at previously inaccessible oil and gas — has transformed the USA From a country unable to cover its own energy needs to one that on occasion can even export.

Until recently, USA Energy exports were largely of oil. But the emergence and spread of technology and infrastructure that allow companies to cool gas into a liquid, put it on a ship, and turn it back into gas when it reaches its port of call means the USA Can now export its gas, too.

The upside for American companies: There's so much natural gas in the USA, it's cheap. The problem: It's not so cheap by the time it's gone through all those other steps and moved across the Atlantic.

The upside for American companies: There's so much natural gas in the USA, it's cheap. The problem: It's not so cheap by the time it's gone through all those other steps and moved across the Atlantic. The most promising market for USA Liquified natural gas exports is actually Asia and more specifically, China, a country on which the Trump administration has just slapped tariffs.

For that reason, Russian gas is cheaper than American gas in Europe. With a network of pipelines already in place –- and more to come — Russia can simply pipe its gas to its European clientele. Russia is the world's largest gas exporter. Europe can simply not live without Russian gas, especially as some existing sources — particularly in the Netherlands — are on the decline. The only question is through which pipelines Western Europe is going to get its gas from their eastern neighbor. The Russians know this. The Europeans know this. And surely the Trump administration knows this.

This summer, a Russian energy official detailed an emerging concern among Kremlin officials. He'the just come from the annual Munich Security Conference, which is ostensibly focused on matters of defense and security. The Russians have long been accused of wielding their natural gas as a weapon, the stick in a "carrot and stick" approach, and yet the Russian official complained to me that America is also taking just that approach.

"A USA Official at the conference was telling the Europeans American natural gas is 'freedom gas' and to buy it to free themselves of Russian influence. The Americans want Europe to buy American gas even though it's much more expensive. They want Europe to pay 'protection money. '.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2721215]Biden fails to secure oil and regional security commitments at Arab summit ([URL]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/biden-fails-to-secure-oil-and-regional-security-commitments-at-arab-summit/ar-AAZG3R0[/URL]).

Who's surprised? Ok, let the Libtards start defending these failures with lame excuses and blaming Trump, Republicans or anyone else. Or even more ridiculous, calling these successes? LOL.[/QUOTE]Yeah, they didn't have any more oil they could produce. Saudi Arabia thus got away with murdering Khashoggi and having a sitting POTUS come kiss their ass getting nothing in return.

But we do not need any more refineries or oil production. Oh no. There is that climate change theory and ESG scores.

Here is a great piece on nuclear. Like more oil production, it is something else we do not need.

[URL]https://environmentalprogress.org/complete-case-for-nuclear[/URL]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2721347]Instead of laughing hysterically like a loon in response to those of us who prove you wrong time and time again, why not try to get a grip on yourself, calm down and see if you can think of something you have ever posted that was supported by the facts.

That would be a help to all of us.[/QUOTE]A delusional right-wing cracker who's come to his senses? That doesn't exist in real life, but sounds like an angle The Simpsons could explore.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2721342]Saying something is true does not make it true. Case in point is this: "about half the world in terms of area and population was communist. " You provided no sources for your contention. Like Donnie the Dumbass, you made it up out of whole cloth without a shred of proof.

As usual, your contention is bogus as backed up by [URL]https://www.infoplease.com/world/population/area-and-population-countries[/URL] and [URL]https://www.infoplease.com/world/diplomacy/communist-countries-past-and-present[/URL].

I have done the math. Unfortunately I forgot to save my post and my computer froze while I attempted to post the results. But go ahead and do the math if you are able. All of the data is in these two sources above.

Here's what I remember from my post and you are 0 for 3.

1. 46 countries (if you count all of the satellite Soviets in the old USSR) are or have been communist. Since there are approximately 200 countries in the world, that means that about 25% are or were communist. Nowhere near half.

2. The 46 countries mentioned above have a population of about 2 billion. There were about 7. 6 billion people worldwide in 2017 when the info please figures were updated. I learned in 3rd grade that 2/7. 6 is more like 26% and not anywhere near 50%.

3. The 46 countries mentioned above have a land area that is about 10% of the worldwide land area.

But that's OK, Chrissie. Everybody knows that if you believe the 2020 election was stolen you will believe anything. You'll even believe that 26% is close to "half". I guess it is if you round upwards to the nearest fifty percent.

What was it that you said, Chrissie, in your original post? That you were full of it? Yes, you are.[/QUOTE]As always, PissVomitMonger did not properly read or understand the debate. The timeframe in question was 50 years ago, at the height of communism. In 1970, the world's population was 3. 5 billion, of which a third was in China and the USSR alone. Add in the other 30 or so communist countries and you will get to approximately half.

As I stated, the number of countries is irrelevant, unless you believe that Liechtenstein and Monaco are somehow "more" than China.

Finally, are you stating that the land area of the 46 countries (USSR, China, Mongolia, Afghanistan, Cambodia, Yemen, Cuba, Laos, North Korea, Vietnam, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, East Germany, Hungary, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Albania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Rep. Of Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia, Slovenia, DR Congo, Angola, Benin, Dem Rep. Of Congo, Ethiopia, Somalia, Eritrea, and Mozambique) is about 10% of the worldwide land area? Subtract Antarctica from the total, do the math again, and show me the results. Regardless, the important factor is population, which you failed to understand (as always) was very different in 1970 to now.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2721349]Moreover, the only group in the Federal Government that seriously "Defunded the Police" was the Republican Party in the House of Representatives.

Unanimously.

[B]'Republicans are defunding the police: Fox News anchor stumps congressman[/B]

[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jun/28/chris-wallace-republicans-defunding-the-police-fox-news-congressman-jim-banks[/URL]

Being a "Conservative Republican" is obviously a mental disorder.[/QUOTE]Classic fake news, and one of the reasons (Chris Wallace))) was booted out of Fox and to whichever of the unwatchable, unwatched networks he is now. Here's how it works:

The democrats cook up a vast, insane, nation-wrecking, inflation-causing, debt-rocketing bill costing trillions of dollars, most of which is entirely wasted on green bullshit, kickbacks for Nancy and Joe, tranny-groomer indoctrination for small children, and all the other crap we know govts burn up our money on.

There's a couple of lines hidden in the bill about funding cops.

Republicans and any other fiscally sane people vote against the terrible bill.

The democrats and fake news shriek "THEY VOTED AGAINST THE COPS" while completely ignoring the other multiple trillions of pork bullshit.

If you want to fund the cops, pass a separate bill funding the cops. Don't hide it in the middle of your multi-trillion horseshit. Jeez, you have to be functionally retarded to fall for that. Which is another reason why democrats are so keen to replace heritage Americans with 75-IQ turd world illegals.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2721215]Biden fails to secure oil and regional security commitments at Arab summit ([URL]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/biden-fails-to-secure-oil-and-regional-security-commitments-at-arab-summit/ar-AAZG3R0[/URL]).

Who's surprised? Ok, let the Libtards start defending these failures with lame excuses and blaming Trump, Republicans or anyone else. Or even more ridiculous, calling these successes? LOL.[/QUOTE]Remember when Trump visited Saudi Arabia? They pulled out all the stops, gave him a massive welcome, and did all kinds of great deals which ensured low gas prices and high paying jobs for Americans. Trump told them he was there do business, not to lecture and whine, and they respected him.

Now we've got this senile clown who just a couple of years ago was reading from his teleprompter that he was going to make Saudi a "pariah state" because they whacked some guy who was making trouble for them (as if the CIA, Mossad, whoever else haven't murdered hundreds of their enemies) and because of some ludicrous green bullshit. Add in to that the fact that Anthony "Rabbit in headlights" Blinken the failed rockstar apparently brings up trannies and faggots every time he meets with the Saudis. [URL]https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/16/blinken-i-press-saudis-on-lgbtqi-issues-every-time-00040325[/URL].

Literally imagine being a high-level Saudi official. You sit down for what you think are serious talks with the US Secretary of State about trade, oil prices, regional security etc, and he starts whining "Why aren't you letting faggots buttfuck each other in public and brainwash kiddies at school?" WTF?

No wonder they just told America to fuck off and are about to join China like the rest of the world.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2721343]Why? FUX "NewZ" and prominent Republicans all said that the Mango Mussolini's rantings about a stolen election are all hot air. [URL]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/prominent-conservatives-election-lost-not-stolen[/URL] and [URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aqorZ61AYFqZU-EDQBBzjqfvAoC5nKcB/view[/URL].

The only people who should be on Netflix and members of the moron brigade.[/QUOTE]He will just call them "RINOs" then appeal to the "Independent State Legislature Theory," which is another MAGA scam. It's based on a forced, narrow interpetation of the term "legislature" in the Constitution which is at odds with it's usage at the time of the Founding Fathers as well as historical legal precedent. The SCOTUS refused to hear the nonsense after federal courts in PA rejected it. What these slimeballs suggested was nullifying the votes of millions of mail in voters who voted in good faith in states that Trump lost. Then again we are talking about American traitors who support Putin and have no interest in democracy, so we shouldn't be surprised. This legal issue is outlined here.

[URL]https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/independent-state-legislature-theory-explained[/URL]

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2721078]
I've already demonstrated that about half the world in terms of area and population was communist. Far more than your foolish and ignorant claim of 10%.
[/QUOTE]Demonstrated? You did no such thing. You merely asserted. Using false logic. You want to include all the USSR states as individual communist states to swell the numerator, yet you exclude all the capitalist countries' individual states from the demoninator. That's your demonstration is it? The only thing you demonmstrate is your dishonest manipulation of reality.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2721215]Biden fails to secure oil and regional security commitments at Arab summit [URL]https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/biden-fails-to-secure-oil-and-regional-security-commitments-at-arab-summit/ar-AAZG3R0[/URL]

Who's surprised? Ok, let the Libtards start defending these failures with lame excuses and blaming Trump, Republicans or anyone else. Or even more ridiculous, calling these successes? LOL.[/QUOTE]You want promises that they won't do anything stupid again that threatens human rights?

From your link:

[QUOTE]In response, the crown prince brought up the abuse of prisoners that took place at Abu Ghraib prison during the U.S. war in Iraq.[/QUOTE]Yep and just a few years later the USA Electoral College appointed another idiot Repub as a so-called potus who immediately launched into partnership with Vladamir Putin to weaken and destroy Western Democratic Alliances, pave the way for authoritarian dictatorships to prevail, capping off their mission with an unprecedented deadly violent attempt to overturn a free and fair election and overthrow American Democracy.

Along the way, that one and other Repubs have reversed a half-Century of Human Rights freedom for Americans to engage in sex purely for the pleasure of it and not solely for the purpose of procreation.

Meanwhile, Biden did get this agreement, which is far and away a better response to the global energy inflation problem initially triggered by Trump's Pandemic than anything else proposed by any Repub:

[B]Saudi Arabia agrees to increase oil production levels, will help 'stabilize markets,' White House says.
Saudi Arabia committed to increase oil production levels 50% above what was initially planned for July and August[/B]

[URL]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/saudi-arabia-agrees-to-work-with-us-to-increase-oil-production-levels-will-help-stabilize-markets-white-ho[/URL]

Granted, it's from a FUX News source. But it has been repeated often enough by real news sources to have some legitimacy.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2721342]Saying something is true does not make it true. Case in point is this: "about half the world in terms of area and population was communist. " You provided no sources for your contention. Like Donnie the Dumbass, you made it up out of whole cloth without a shred of proof.

As usual, your contention is bogus as backed up by [URL]https://www.infoplease.com/world/population/area-and-population-countries[/URL] and [URL]https://www.infoplease.com/world/diplomacy/communist-countries-past-and-present[/URL].

I have done the math. Unfortunately I forgot to save my post and my computer froze while I attempted to post the results. But go ahead and do the math if you are able. All of the data is in these two sources above.

Here's what I remember from my post and you are 0 for 3.

1. 46 countries (if you count all of the satellite Soviets in the old USSR) are or have been communist. Since there are approximately 200 countries in the world, that means that about 25% are or were communist. Nowhere near half.

2. The 46 countries mentioned above have a population of about 2 billion. There were about 7. 6 billion people worldwide in 2017 when the info please figures were updated. I learned in 3rd grade that 2/7. 6 is more like 26% and not anywhere near 50%.

3. The 46 countries mentioned above have a land area that is about 10% of the worldwide land area.

But that's OK, Chrissie. Everybody knows that if you believe the 2020 election was stolen you will believe anything. You'll even believe that 26% is close to "half". I guess it is if you round upwards to the nearest fifty percent.

What was it that you said, Chrissie, in your original post? That you were full of it? Yes, you are.[/QUOTE]I think communist countries, if you count USSR would amount to 25% for every metric -- the number, population and size. I believe, the USSR was 14%, China 6%, so it's reasonable to presume that all other former communist states would amount to other 5% in size.

But yeah, who said that 25 ain't the new 50? Not Chris.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2721440]Donnie the Dumbass said that Germany imported too much Russian gas from Russia. Here's what we know:

World Jul 11,2018 3:29 PM EDT.

BRUSSELS President Donald Trump wasted no time in escalating his verbal attacks on Germany in the opening leg of his European tour. Seated across from NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg at breakfast Wednesday morning ahead of the alliance's meeting, Trump expanded his criticism beyond how little in his view Europe's most powerful economy spends on defense to target where they buy their energy.

"Germany is totally controlled by Russia," he said. "They will be getting between 60 and 70 percent of their energy from Russia and a new pipeline. ".

But those numbers aren't correct. Here's what we know about the pipeline and the broader fight over natural gas exports.

Trump was referring to the Nord Stream 2 Pipeline that is being built under the Baltic Sea between Russia and Germany. Gazprom, Russia's natural gas producer, is building it alongside an existing pipeline of the same name. Several European energy companies, including Royal Dutch Shell and France's Engie, are providing billions in funding.

But Trump's assertion that the pipeline will provide 60 to 70 percent of Germany's energy is incorrect. While Russia will be able to increase the amount of natural gas it sells to Germany through the pipeline, Russian gas will only provide a sliver of the overall energy Germany needs. Germany's energy comes from a diverse mix of oil, coal and renewables. Less than one fifth of the country's power is powered by natural gas; at the moment, just 9 percent of the country's power is generated by Russian gas...[/QUOTE]Yes Trump always looked for what's best for USA, and as part of that he wanted other countries to buy oil from USA instead of Russia, exactly how a POTUS should do, unlike Buyden begging for oil to baby formula from other countries. We all know these by now (or should know). What's your point in such a long response besides showing your personal inability to be concise and succinct?

[QUOTE=Gino02;2721111]Even if we let this comparison of "foreseeing issues in strategy mistakes" with a "broken watch", which on its own is completely meaningless, stick for the sake of debating, libtards didn't even realize what's coming that even a broken watch can correctly tell. From this, we infer that libtards are even worse (in foreseeing results of any strategy) than a broken watch. Agree?[/QUOTE]What happened PVMonger? Should I assume no response means you agree that libtards are even worse (in foreseeing results of any strategy) than a broken watch?