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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2118052]The true winners in life are generally humble.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheCane;2118050] It's like Jnpr30 and I say. Life is a wheel that spins around and around. Sometimes you're on top. And sometimes you're not!
[/QUOTE]If I understand correctly, lover boy may be on top now because he has the WG that the monger covets. But two years from now he will be in prison, and the monger will still have his money, so the roles will be reversed. Is that what you mean?

Scope of my original argument is limited to a much smaller context: Who receives more from the WG? The loverboy or the monger? Not who has accomplished more in life. My stance is that the WG gives more of herself to her loverboy (financially, emotionally, mentally, physically). In this limited scope, he is clearly the "top of the wheel".

As I said, this is not applicable to you, Cane. A one one hour session, and maybe six months later, a second one hour session, then onto the next. But some men are seeking GFE and beyond. WGs get multiple marriage proposals a week. Some are said jokingly but not always. So there are mongers out there that have truly "fallen" for the WG. These men care who her heart belongs to and desperately want to be the one at the "top of the wheel".

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2118156] Who receives more from the WG? The loverboy or the monger? Not who has accomplished more in life. My stance is that the WG gives more of herself to her loverboy (financially, emotionally, mentally, physically). In this limited scope, he is clearly the "top of the wheel".[/QUOTE]I'm sure there were girls who gave me more (emotionally, mentally, physically) than they gave the (lover) boy they had at the time.

Even if a girl gives the loverboy more than her clients, he is a loser and clearly only receiving this due to manipulation and / or violence / threats. It that is what gets you to the top of the wheel: thanks but no thanks.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2118109]The guy is living in his teenage dream, don't pay attention.[/QUOTE]At least I can afford financially to live my teenage dream since my teen age till now and I will so till I die LOL Not many men can do that, but I can both financially and life wise.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2118064]Jnpr30. As you have developed this thread into a philosophical one, I may as well say, in my opinion you are so so right. The so called big shots bragging have clearly something missing inside themselves.

The true winners in life are those who are content with themselves and make the most of themselves. As you say, the true winners in life are often very humble. They have no need to brag, but impress by their very presence.

Thank you for your post, which makes the world, the forum, and me an infinitesmal bit kinder and nicer.[/QUOTE]Indeed. The presense someone gives out. An aura of sorts. Happiness. Has nothing to do about money, but love, a smile and some laughter. Sometimes you have good chemistry with someone. Then that someone turns into a winner for you. But he or she may not be a winner for all. It is all in our heads and has nothing to do with money.

I see many girls at these clubs that are winners, and that is why I return. The chemistry I feel we have. Some more, some less. Of course one have dreams about it resolving well, but it can be a tricky game, and so the imagination can at least be something.

But anything that is paid for is something of a rent. What is not to say they are items however, as items work the same every time, but a rent of their time in order to test if the chemistry is working. If they want to rid themselves of that word, then no payment is the only way. A word like rent is negatively loaded in some cultures perhaps, but linguistically it is a neutral word. Girls like the word escort instead. Perhaps it is a better word. It definitely is a positive word, and one that should be used for good effort, but these things are just rhetorics. All work is rent of time. Otherwise the economic principles of labor would drastically change. Even for that wall street fund manager.

[QUOTE=RogueNation;2118164]I'm sure there were girls who gave me more (emotionally, mentally, physically) than they gave the (lover) boy they had at the time.

Even if a girl gives the loverboy more than her clients, he is a loser and clearly only receiving this due to manipulation and / or violence / threats. It that is what gets you to the top of the wheel: thanks but no thanks.[/QUOTE]Not every situation is the same. Generalizing this is a massive mistake.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2118052]I don't believe in the concept of winners and losers. Everyone is living his life as he pleases. Only insecure dweebs brag about how great they have and how other men are losers.

One member here first posited here that other men are losers because they are kissing girls that he already fucked, forgetting that numerous other men have already fucked the same girl before he did. So I made the tongue in cheek reference to the Romanian lover boy. In return, the guy claimed he is a winner because 150 is not even 1% of his annual income. Seriously! That implies 15,000 lower limit on annual income. Not an amount that anyone brags about in developed world.

Say, you work at a hedge fund in NYC and make half a million a year. To most people on this planet, that makes a princely sum. I guarantee you the guy himself doesn't feel he is rich nor thinks he is a winner. His fund manager is most likely making several millions or even hundreds of millions a year. He has a hundred friends and peers who are at a higher level than him and he knows them personally. He is not comparing himself to some low level receptionist and thinking he is well off. He is generally miserable because he feels he is entitled to more and that he has been unfairly targeted by fate and life.

My point -- the only people who brag they are winners making a couple of hundred hundred grand a year or because their dick is 7 inches long are generally living a isolated life and don't even know the true winners. Ostrich head buried in sand if you will. The true winners in life are generally humble.[/QUOTE]I could not put this any better. Some people have money to spend. I often see expensive cars in Fkks (Bentley) and they do not belong to the owner of the club. So, there are some very rich people who come to the clubs. They are not many. I once went to a club and three girls immediately were jocking for a position. Clearly they know he is a big spender. But most of the time, you will have no idea who is rich. That is the advantage of a FKK club- the person next to you could be rich or could be broke. We look similar naked. There are many types of girls and some punters are looking for a real experience. I see no advantage comparing myself to a pimp or bragging about myself. I go to the clubs for myself.

Whether you like to admit or not, we contribute greatly why these girls are sent or placed in FKK club, I mean we are the demand, and where there are demand guys supply, I realize that we plays big part in it, so do not think you are the angel in FKK cycle LOL.

There are no good guy in FKK cycle, but of course I have my manners, but I do not confuse myself that I am the good guy here LOL.

To all the comments regarding who has fucked a girl in the ass, or who has creampied who, and who has licked the same girl as someone else is just silly jokes or at best some ludicrous rethorics. If anyone means that shit they are not very bright. The human body just doesn't work that way. If a girl fucks a guy, it doesn't mean that she just fucked 500 other girls. One bacteria who jumped over is just one bacteria. One bacteria is not 500 human beings. If you want reduce 500 human beings into one bacteria, then you just created the a monster. And that monster is probably just an illusion in your own head.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2118393]Whether you like to admit or not, we contribute greatly why these girls are sent or placed in FKK club, I mean we are the demand, and where there are demand guys supply, I realize that we plays big part in it, so do not think you are the angel in FKK cycle LOL.

There are no good guy in FKK cycle, but of course I have my manners, but I do not confuse myself that I am the good guy here LOL.[/QUOTE]Depends. If the woman works alone we may just be providing her and her child with much better money than an otherwise McD job back in romania or Bulgaria. The problem is just in those cases where she has a pimp. But many girls do rid themselves of their pimps after awhile. So it is not a black and white thing. It is grey.

Buying an iPhone is also grey. Or H&M clothes. The factory workers working for 1 or 2 $ an hour take their own lives at times. So buy a mobile phone or any clothes to wear and you are supporting the dreaded industries of capitalism.

You're right, there is a supply because there is a demand, but I prefer to give my money to a girl for her to get a better life in the future, than to give it to a dickhead sporting shitty tatoos and acting like a dick in his BMW.

Instead of hassling the customers with some kondom Kontrol, maybe the cops would be more inspired to control all the BMW and Audi with a romanian plate and ask the guy to give the proof that he bought the car with his own money.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2118524]You're right, there is a supply because there is a demand, but I prefer to give my money to a girl for her to get a better life in the future, than to give it to a dickhead sporting shitty tatoos and acting like a dick in his BMW.

Instead of hassling the customers with some kondom Kontrol, maybe the cops would be more inspired to control all the BMW and Audi with a romanian plate and ask the guy to give the proof that he bought the car with his own money.[/QUOTE]It is very rare in life for a man to drive a car paid for by a woman. However most cars driven by women in town are paid for by men. Many men who have been rutlessly pimped by women all their lives often come to internet forums to curse against pimps, to deplore how misogynist the world is, how violent men are, how men earn more for the same work. I'm sure in a not too distant future women will get the right, when an ex-husband is unable to pay alimony, to have him slaughtered to sell his organs. And the men queueing in front of the abattoir will still be convinced women need to be protected from evil men.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2118393]Whether you like to admit or not, we contribute greatly why these girls are sent or placed in FKK club, I mean we are the demand, and where there are demand guys supply, I realize that we plays big part in it, so do not think you are the angel in FKK cycle LOL.

There are no good guy in FKK cycle, but of course I have my manners, but I do not confuse myself that I am the good guy here LOL.[/QUOTE]Valid point I am wide aware of. Doesn't mean you have to be post that loverboys do a great job.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2118521]Depends. If the woman works alone we may just be providing her and her child with much better money than an otherwise McD job back in romania or Bulgaria. The problem is just in those cases where she has a pimp. But many girls do rid themselves of their pimps after awhile. So it is not a black and white thing. It is grey.

Buying an iPhone is also grey. Or H&M clothes. The factory workers working for 1 or 2 $ an hour take their own lives at times. So buy a mobile phone or any clothes to wear and you are supporting the dreaded industries of capitalism.[/QUOTE]If woman works alone yes, but I went and we monger go with over hundred women over the course of years and so we go with many girls with so called string attached LOL.

And us even going to club gives people have incentive to do such business, so we all are contributing greatly for the system LOL.

[QUOTE=RogueNation;2118540]Valid point I am wide aware of. Doesn't mean you have to be post that loverboys do a great job.[/QUOTE]No I was wrong to do that because recently they are doing very bad job because line up is not good as before and some mongers are reporting BBBJ issue though I did not experience this few weeks ago in my case. And these girls cannot even get their origin of country right confusing Romania with Spain and Italy LOL.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2118156]


Scope of my original argument is limited to a much smaller context: Who receives more from the WG? The loverboy or the monger? Not who has accomplished more in life. My stance is that the WG gives more of herself to her loverboy (financially, emotionally, mentally, physically). In this limited scope, he is clearly the "top of the wheel".




.[/QUOTE]"Who receives more from the WG".

I hear your question McA, but I am afraid I don't agree with the premise.

To your last assertion in the passage, say if you once had a girl friend. You split. She becomes a hooker later in life. Does that fact make you the top of wheel of anything?

It's true the so called lover boy fucked her first, or certainly prior to the club monger. But just as there is no center of universe per Big Bang theory, there is no real "earlier fucker" in the life of a WG. She fucks so many, who cares whether x came before y did.

As for the question "who does she give more of herself to" no question she is giving her money to loverboy. I don't know for sure, never poked my head between them, but that's what the "experts" here say. Nor do Most of us aspire for her money, We just need good service for our money. Does she give him more complete and emotional sex? Who knows again?! Women's orgasm is impossible to tell. People here are skeptical of YamaYama's exploits but then brag they gave this girl or that girl an orgasm. Only the girl knows, and she can lie so why ask? I don't even try to give the girl the big O, and figure the money I pay is her true orgasm. If she fakes one or really has one, that's incidental to me.

PS. You had some very great one liners btw. Loved the alpha faux beta bux line you came up with. Wish I could coin such cute phrases.😀😀