East China - Shanghai

[QUOTE=Hobbiest1;1764458]You know what? You all hurt my feelings for calling me a fuck stain. Although that is one of my favorite sayings. The only better one is Fuck Spray but either is pretty strong.

I hope you understand that I am just a regular (well almost. Truth be told I'm fucking rich) guy who had some bad issues in SCAMHAI and I wanted to share with others. Then I got questioned by some posters - "he said it was originally his buddy", etc. Etc. Trust me. Sometimes the facts have to change to protect the innocent.

I still stand by my original assertion that China is really a shithole. If this is racist then so be it. I'm American and not backing down. So I won't post much more on this board. Not even when I travel back to SCAMHAI.

I got it figured out. Here's my take away.

1. Never go to a massage parlor. You could get shaken down by the proprieters or the police. My buddy got robbed for $3,000 USD.

2. Never go to a sauna club. See #1.

3. Don't use any girls from Shanghai Nightlife Guide. They will short you on time and the owner could care less.

4. The only safe thing to do in China is jerk off in my room to a picture of some hot eastern European babe unless the police come into my room.

I truly (almost truly) wish you all the best and I wanted to participate. The elders were threatened so I will keep all info to myself.

I'm going to go spend some time in Cambodia!

Later!

Be nice to one another!

H1.[/QUOTE]Oh my goodness.

I wonder more and more if you actually are allowed to surf on pages like this one. Here a more appropriate alternative for you: [URL]www.disney.com[/URL].

Lev.

[QUOTE=OldAsiaHand;1764513]Will be in Shanghai in November. Can I have back my honorary visitor status?

OAH.[/QUOTE]No no. You have to come though me first, the original Shanghai gang LaoDa! LOL Man! Like to PM me the dates?

Enjoy!

AG.

[QUOTE=Levitian;1764568]Oh my goodness.

I wonder more and more if you actually are allowed to surf on pages like this one. Here a more appropriate alternative for you: [URL]www.disney.com[/URL].

Lev.[/QUOTE]LOL!

Enjoy.

AG.

[QUOTE=ShanghaiGuide;1764517]"Kang Ding Sauna" and "Men's Heaven" are not the same place. Both are located in Jing An area, but they are not even nearby and also not connected in any way.

"Men's Heaven" was a name we used in July for a new massage center concept, where the owner asked for our "support" to install a service, that will be especially focused to foreigners.

We liked the idea to set up a place, where you can get all the services "below" a sauna session (regarding to time and rate), but in consideration for people who do not speak Chinese with clear "concept" and a fixed menu like in the sauna clubs.

For many foreigners it's hard to get what they want beside the sauna, because mostly the massage places expect you to bargain about service and price with the girl directly.

So "Men's Heaven" finally opened with a menu starting with a "and job massage", a "blowjob option" and also a "full service option" to select.

Combined with a user friendly not time-, but "shot-limited". And here even with a "fair use policy", that if you need longer time than calculated for one shot session, it will still be no one who would push you to finish fast or pay more.

In combination with western focused details like for example a western styled toilet, but also with a genuine Finnish sauna, foot- and health massage and with an English skilled manager, "Men's Heaven had the potential to get a hot spot for foreign guys who don't have the time or patience for a sauna session, but would still appreciate a place for "release".

Not the only, but one of the most important points in our preparation was to make sure, that the place will be "safe" regarding to the raid risk. And for a shop like that safety simply based on the "relationship" to the one (or more) who is / are responsible for that area in the local police station.

And here unfortunately we found some issues when we did a background check (we also have "contacts" for our "protection" in the Headquarters and we use this way also for to assess the risk for a place we plan to list) and in this background check for "Men's Heaven" we have been informed, that this place is not under any strong "protection".

So to avoid that "Men's Heaven" will get a "men's hell" for the guys who will be caught with trousers down one day, we decided not to recommend that place any more.

It's really a pity, because we are very sure, that there would a great market for a shop like that, especially in the city center, but for foreigners we really not recommend to visit any place without a strong "protection"!

Because different to a Chinese client many foreigner deal with the risk to destroy their "working career", in the case they would be "banned" from China for a longer time.

But because only we used that name, "Men's Heaven" is not connected to any place any more and the manager who worked for "Men's Haven" before now is also working for our page in the sauna section. So I guess that here the same contact person who recommended "Men's Heaven" before will now also talk about "Kang Ding Sauna". Perhaps this is the reason why it has become a "connection" between both places. But for the moment I would say: "Men's Heaven, rest in peace! But we still hope another shop one day will find out, that foreign customers bring them a lot of advantages and will try to realize a concept like that again.

Till this will happen, have fun, where ever you will find your personal heaven.[/QUOTE]Interesting, I was told directly by the contact originally published on your site for men's heaven that they were in fact the same place, even gave me the address. Given the overlap of pictures - this was while he was still posting pics - or maybe did this change happen a while ago?

[QUOTE=Levitian;1764568]Oh my goodness.

I wonder more and more if you actually are allowed to surf on pages like this one. Here a more appropriate alternative for you: [URL]www.disney.com[/URL].

Lev.[/QUOTE]Since I don't want to break my promise. Cheers to you Lev!

I agree with HB1 his best option is to jerk himself off, but not only in SCAMHAI, but also in his palatial basement (he told you all he is f--king rich). But he probably will find something wrong with his right hand to complain about. He should not use a picture of a hot east European girl to get himself off. He should use the picture of Donald Trump (an inside joke for us Americans).

The latest version of the misadventure of his buddy is this: "he was robbed in a massage parlor. " In his original post, it was a beer and coffee bar. But he may say again that was an intended discrepancy, like what [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] Wee Herman said when he got up after falling off his bike onto his face: " I meant to do that!

HB1 told you guys after calling you all A-holes, he wished you were sitting across from him at a business table, intimating that he would have skinned you alive. For a tough, f--king rich business shark, he sure got his feelings hurt easily. I guess we are not stranding too far from the intended topic of the forum if we are talking pussy.

Good to see things are still lively around here.

[QUOTE=NorthSouth;1764777]I guess we are not stranding too far from the intended topic of the forum if we are talking pussy.[/QUOTE]OMG LOL! Taz.

Definitely a problem with someone who sees fit to announce on this board that he is rich.

Have recently had several of Shanghai Guide's girls come over, and all delivered as promised. Not cheap but great experiences.

Is it an infringement to post the PM from HB1 on the board? Maybe I would be too frightened to do so even if that was allowed. I am shaking in my boots from his threats, NOT.

[QUOTE=NorthSouth;1765110]Is it an infringement to post the PM from HB1 on the board? Maybe I would be too frightened to do so even if that was allowed. I am shaking in my boots from his threats, NOT.[/QUOTE]To any members here, please report any threats made by anyone on the board. If justified the member making the threat will be banned immediately.

Enjoy!

AG.

Been a while since I last posted. What's the weather currently like for the hobby? Recently moved to Baoshan district, anything interesting in that area? There's a few ominous looking foot massage places but I didn't go in. Felt a bit uneasy.

A couple of weeks back I finally made my way to manhattan, it was. Interesting.

[QUOTE=HangSeng;1765267]Been a while since I last posted. What's the weather currently like for the hobby? Recently moved to Baoshan district, anything interesting in that area? There's a few ominous looking foot massage places but I didn't go in. Felt a bit uneasy.

A couple of weeks back I finally made my way to manhattan, it was. Interesting.[/QUOTE]Can't comment about Baoshan area as I've never parlayed what they have to offer there. If you're ever in the Jing'an area and need help, give me a shout.

[QUOTE=NorthSouth;1765110]Is it an infringement to post the PM from HB1 on the board? Maybe I would be too frightened to do so even if that was allowed. I am shaking in my boots from his threats, NOT.[/QUOTE]If it is as inspiring as the rest of HB1's works. Why not?!

Lev.

[QUOTE=NorthSouth;1764777]I agree with HB1 his best option is to jerk himself off, but not only in SCAMHAI, but also in his palatial basement (he told you all he is f--king rich). But he probably will find something wrong with his right hand to complain about. He should not use a picture of a hot east European girl to get himself off. He should use the picture of Donald Trump (an inside joke for us)

HB1 told you guys after calling you all A-holes, he wished you were sitting across from him at a business table, intimating that he would have skinned you alive. For a tough, f--king rich business shark, he sure got his feelings hurt easily. I guess we are not stranding too far from the intended topic of the forum if we are talking pussy.[/QUOTE]Hilarious!

Lev.