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[QUOTE=ImAGuy;1746035]What about the guys who just want to check out the place, have significant passive income and don't know how long they'll be there?[/QUOTE]There is a 30-day limit (which can be extended once in-country). You can go for more than 30 days by obtaining in advance a standard visa (up to 59 days).

[QUOTE=ImAGuy;1746035]So like, if I get a one-way ticket to the Philippines, there's a chance they could send me back?

What about the guys who just want to check out the place, have significant passive income and don't know how long they'll be there?[/QUOTE]Different posters are sending mixed messages on what happens. I was flying out of NYC with a well know Asian carrier with complicated ticketing (I was going to Manila, staying for 2 weeks, then going to another country in Asia. They checked to see if I had an exit ticket out of the Philippines. I flew PAL with a 1 way ticket and they asked to see my exit ticket as well. All my other stays have been roundtrip tickets.

The airlines nor the ticket agent at check-in does not care about your personal situation etc. They are following the rules set down upon them by their corporate office and / or governmental regulations. Sure, you can take the risk someone is not going to ask, but that seems foolish to me.

I have a 1 way business class ticket that cost me approx $700 that is good until 2017. I may use the ticket before than to travel and / or I could get a refund if need be.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1746023]You are the one responsible for paying for your own deportation.[/QUOTE]No, the airline that brought you there is required to take you back at their expense if you are denied entry. However, that airline can then, of course, try to reclaim the expenses from you if they choose to do so.

[QUOTE=ImAGuy;1746035]So like, if I get a one-way ticket to the Philippines, there's a chance they could send me back?[/QUOTE]You wouldn't even get past check-in: the airlines know they are on the hook for carrying a passenger who doesn't meet the immigration requirements, so they won't even let you travel if suspect you won't be let in.

[QUOTE=ImAGuy;1746035]What about the guys who just want to check out the place, have significant passive income and don't know how long they'll be there?[/QUOTE]You buy a flexible / changeable / refundable ticket. I got stuck in Singapore once after I forgot to buy an onward ticket. The check-in supervisor actually took me to a public internet terminal to buy a refundable ticket (I think there was a fee for doing so but not much). While I was entering my details he saw my wife's Filipino passport and asked if we had our marriage certificate, which we did (it was our honeymoon). "Ah, you're good to go sir, no proof of onward travel required".

[QUOTE=Random99;1746141]Skogis - Immigration is not responsible for looking at the return ticket. The airlines have this responsibility to verify that a person with a 1 way ticket has a exit ticket (they won't ask if you have a round trip ticket).[/QUOTE]Well, immigration do have the responsibility as it's an immigration requirement. However, the airlines have already done this check so I assume they just ask people at random. I've only ever been asked when NOT on a round trip ticket which makes me wonder if immigration already know what ticket you have. Certainly immigration do in other countries: not so sure about PH.

[QUOTE=Scorchin;1746153]Like Skogis I have spent tweny years going in and out of Asian and African airports and never, but never asked about a return ticket. Add the USA and Canada also.

Manila is one of the more relaxed airports. The country needs tourism![/QUOTE]Hmm. I have been in Manilla only two times, but both times they asked for returnticket.

Never asked in any other country.

Ten days ago I applied for Blue Shield of the Philippines. I was approved yesterday. Policy covers seniors (I stop being in my sixties tomorrow) The specific plan is [URL]http://www.bluecross.com.ph/index.php?&id=medicalplans&plan=brpremier[/URL] Blue Premier. The plan runs around $3000 per year. Limiting coverage to this part of the world brings it down to about $2200. This insurance is unique in the world. Not any plans like it that I am aware of. And yes I still have USA Medicare. And yes there are exclusions but nothing serious in my case.

[QUOTE=Random99;1746141]Skogis - Immigration is not responsible for looking at the return ticket. The airlines have this responsibility to verify that a person with a 1 way ticket has a exit ticket (they won't ask if you have a round trip ticket).[/QUOTE]Exactly and they never did ask me checking in in Oslo for a returnticket even if I many many times only have a one way ticket (I have returnticket but with different company alliance and many many times from other city outside phils). A round trip ticket goes without saying. Only in BKK I have been asked twice by Cebu Pacific and that's it.

For those of you concerned about your travel on a one-way ticket being inconvenienced by the demand of an onward ticket just buy an additional, refundable, one-way ticket with 1-year validity. You have to provide the agent a departure date, so choose one in the future that falls within the period of your visa. Yes, this ticket is more expensive than a discounted excursion ticket, which often aren't refundable, so the 'cost' is higher, but since you'll be refunding it later it needn't be a worry. You can cut your expense by choosing a nearby destination. You can also adjust the departure date to one later, but sometimes there is a nominal fee for this. The agent will email you a ticket with the new date. (This is useful when you are able to pick up a very cheap return fare, say Manila > HK > Manila, for a quick jaunt and may need to show proof of onward ticket departing Manila at a later date, just in case.) I've purchased these tickets directly from a brick-and-mortar agent rather than online and have processed the refund through the same agent. As long as your CC is adjusted and you don't have to physically pick up cash it really isn't a hassle.

[QUOTE=Simmer;1746195]No, the airline that brought you there is required to take you back at their expense if you are denied entry. However, that airline can then, of course, try to reclaim the expenses from you if they choose to do so.
[/QUOTE]I believe that correct. Am aware of two deportations in the last 7 years (one in phils) where the deported was asked point blank by the carrier how he / she intended to pay for the difference in prices between flights (different flight has a different price, and the change-fee). I can't think of any reason why they would not attempt to recoup on your mistake. If you used a credit card to pay for the flight, they are going to bill it.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1746485]I believe that correct. Am aware of two deportations in the last 7 years (one in phils) where the deported was asked point blank by the carrier how he / she intended to pay for the difference in prices between flights (different flight has a different price, and the change-fee). I can't think of any reason why they would not attempt to recoup on your mistake. If you used a credit card to pay for the flight, they are going to bill it.[/QUOTE]Whether they do try to reclaim depends on cost and effort involved. If the return plane is not full, and the passenger had a return ticket anyway (deported for other reasons), and from a 3rd world country, then they apparently rarely bother. But if the plane is full, bumping off a paying passenger, fined by immigration for failing to check whatever, long haul back from whence they came, from Europe / US etc, then they likely would try to sue the pants off you.

But the airline can't refuse to take the passenger just because payment hasn't been made before the deportation. That's up to the airline to sort out after the fact.

However, you don't have to go back to the last country of embarkation. If immigration and the airline are in agreement, you can buy yourself a ticket to anywhere. As long as you'll be accepted at that destination! Immigration is happy because you've gone, and the original airline is happy because they're off the hook.

But the best solution is to avoid the situation in the first place. And I hold my hands up for failing to remember the immigration rule of proof of onward travel. Fortunately the airline did its job of checking and the problem was resolved before leaving Singapore.

[QUOTE=PirateMorgan;1746231]Ten days ago I applied for Blue Shield of the Philippines. I was approved yesterday. Policy covers seniors (I stop being in my sixties tomorrow) The specific plan is [URL]http://www.bluecross.com.ph/index.php?&id=medicalplans&plan=brpremier[/URL] Blue Premier. The plan runs around $3000 per year. Limiting coverage to this part of the world brings it down to about $2200. This insurance is unique in the world. Not any plans like it that I am aware of. And yes I still have USA Medicare. And yes there are exclusions but nothing serious in my case.[/QUOTE]No preexisting conditions (unless approved. LOL). Like old predatory US insurance companies.

No "fat bastards" (leaves me out. LOL).

Thanks but I'll stick with my Tricare Overseas Program from the DOD.

No preexisting conditions (unless approved. LOL). Like old predatory US insurance companies.

No "fat bastards" (leaves me out. LOL).

Thanks but I'll stick with my Tricare Overseas Program from the DOD.

Three sentences that in themselves offer readers no contribution to knowledge on the subject. On the other hand it is possible that some guy in Montana contemplating a new life in the Philippines may find the info on Blue Cross useful. (info on Tricare is great as a recruiting tool for military types and CIA types. Oh well.

[QUOTE=AskeAske;1746223]Hmm. I have been in Manilla only two times, but both times they asked for return ticket.

Never asked in any other country.[/QUOTE]I just returned to Manila from an assignment which brought me through Bangkok for a 3 days stay.

I have a "permanent spouse visa" (aka ICR card) but decided to keep it in my pocket to see what happened at airline check-in (Thai Airways) when I handed over my ticket to return to Manila. I had large bags to check in.

Clerk looked through the ticket, checked again, then asked something of a supervisor who replied in Thai.

She then said "Where is your onward ticket from Philippines to next destination sir?"

At that point I feigned forgetfulness and produced the ICR card which produced smiles all round. No problems sir. You live in Philippines sir.

Clearly, Thai Airways in Bangkok requires proof that you have a ticket to leave Manila before they will fly you there.

However, I noted a "check yourself in" station for travellers with carry-on bags to print their own boarding pass. Is this an easy way to avoid having on onward ticket? Does the machine ask for details?

[QUOTE=RedKilt;1747345]However, I noted a "check yourself in" station for travellers with carry-on bags to print their own boarding pass. Is this an easy way to avoid having on onward ticket? Does the machine ask for details?[/QUOTE]My guess would be it would tell you to check-in with a human. Sort of similar: you can't check-in online or at a machine for a flight to the US as a green card holder as the system can't find a valid ESTA for you (not required for GC holders) - at least with several of the big airlines like Delta anyway.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;1747345]However, I noted a "check yourself in" station for travellers with carry-on bags to print their own boarding pass. Is this an easy way to avoid having on onward ticket? Does the machine ask for details?[/QUOTE]I check in online a lot and you are still required to go to the bag drop to 'validate' the boarding pass if you are checking in bags. So you would still be asked. Now if you have hand luggage only that maybe different. Never tried that as always have check in baggage.

[QUOTE=WickedRoger;1747530]I check in online a lot and you are still required to go to the bag drop to 'validate' the boarding pass if you are checking in bags. So you would still be asked. Now if you have hand luggage only that maybe different. Never tried that as always have check in baggage.[/QUOTE]You're not paying attention WR.

I said ". I noted a "check yourself in" station for travellers with carry-on bags. ".

Of course you need a human to check in and tag check-in bags.