Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=*****man; 1526294]What's Amsterdam like generally? Not many reports of it here. Is there a farang surcharge?

I'm not sure inviting girls for a drink would work in most soapies. The good thing about them is that the girls don't get to pick and choose. The customer chooses the one he likes and off he goes. What happens if one customer is drinking with a girl and another customer wants her? I think it's better to speak with one of the papasans and explain exactly what body type you're looking for. It's what they're there for.[/QUOTE]A lot of hypothetical strong opinions. The papasan is not me and he did not fuck the girl. He cannot tell me what she is like with me. Papasans often recommend girls that are completely different to what I like. He can only say if she has fake tits or not and if she is popular with Farangs. Many papasan a lie too because girl maybe paying him kickbacks to recommend her. You need to know if he is honest.

Recently a papasan told me girl was natural even though she had a tit job and a nose job. He just did not know. She was too chubby for my taste as well and he should know that. The papasan doesn't know if the girl will kiss, do BBBJ, likes big or small dick, it depends on the customer.

Papasan advice is extremely overrated. The papasan is more for telling you if the girl is working and what time she can be booked etc. He can warn you girls that are always leaving customers dissatisfied. He may know if girl likes Farang, or Indian, or Japanese, or Korean.

If a girl is drinking with another customer then she is effectively Unavailable. That is obvious.

500 Baht surcharge as normal. It's expensive and not worth it unless you hit the right girl

I've never seen anyone drinking or even chatting with a girl at Nataree and long may that continue. Go to a go-go bar if you want to chat before buying.

Of course you shouldn't let the papasan make the decision for you, nor should you expect him to know every little detail about all the girls that work there, but he can tell them to stand up and show you their tummies and generally help with your decision making.

The girls in Amsterdam seem way overpriced compared to other soapies. Just going by the ilikemassage photos, the girls for 2700 and 3100 are more like what you would get for 2000 baht elsewhere. The only decent ones are going for 4000+ baht. If there's a farang surcharge on top it would be a total rip off. Is that a fair summary?

[QUOTE=*****man;1526408]I've never seen anyone drinking or even chatting with a girl at Nataree and long may that continue. Go to a go-go bar if you want to chat before buying.[/QUOTE]Nataree is not at all like the more classy Soapies. There is no setup to eat and drink with girls before going to the room. Chatting with girls is common at the class soapies. Thais do it habitually. Ralph was rightly recommending it.

[QUOTE=*****man;1526408]The girls in Amsterdam seem way overpriced compared to other soapies. Just going by the ilikemassage photos, the girls for 2700 and 3100 are more like what you would get for 2000 baht elsewhere. The only decent ones are going for 4000+ baht. If there's a farang surcharge on top it would be a total rip off. Is that a fair summary?[/QUOTE]I already said it was too expensive for you and not worth it unless get a special girl. They still have plenty of customers willing to pay who would not dream of going to Nataree. They don't want budget minded customers. Why don't you stick to stuff you are more familiar with? I post on places and girls that I have used, or at least checked out to some level. I am not in the Pattaya thread because I don't go there.

I hate price discussions. Different people have different budgets and different ways to best use their time and money. Some want to stay in expensive Hotels and spend lowest amount possible on the girls. That is not me. I like to find fabulous girls and exact price is not my main criteria.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1526414]I already said it was too expensive for you and not worth it unless get a special girl. They still have plenty of customers willing to pay who would not dream of going to Nataree. They don't want budget minded customers. Why don't you stick to stuff you are more familiar with? I post on places and girls that I have used, or at least checked out to some level. I am not in the Pattaya thread because I don't go there.

I hate price discussions. Different people have different budgets and different ways to best use their time and money. Some want to stay in expensive Hotels and spend lowest amount possible on the girls. That is not me. I like to find fabulous girls and exact price is not my main criteria.[/QUOTE]Bizarre comment. How would you know what is or is not too expensive for me? And don't tell me to stick to stuff I'm more familiar with. I like to experiment and share my experiences. You're posts are full of boasts of your expertise but contain very little useful information. Why not just share your experiences rather than lecturing others?

[QUOTE=*****man;1526447]Bizarre comment. How would you know what is or is not too expensive for me? And don't tell me to stick to stuff I'm more familiar with. I like to experiment and share my experiences. You're posts are full of boasts of your expertise but contain very little useful information. Why not just share your experiences rather than lecturing others?[/QUOTE]I quote you "way overpriced". I remember some of your past comments too. I am not telling you what you like, I just remember what you told us, like you never pay Farang Surcharge for example. Go ahead, experiment as you wish and then report. Commenting on experiences is better than speculation about stuff that is not your scene at all.

I remember the stuff about ilikemassage photos not being photo-shopped. Ha Ha! Believe the papasans recommendations too. There is just so little we agree on. You appear to like Nataree, where I don't. You tell us all, we can only chat to the girls before committing, at bars. LOL

Each to their own way.

[QUOTE=*****man; 1526408]I've never seen anyone drinking or even chatting with a girl at Nataree and long may that continue. Go to a go-go bar if you want to chat before buying.

I have seen guys chatting with sideline girls at Nataree but not with behind the glass girls.

Amsterdam has quite a few good lookers, at the right times, despite most girls having nose jobs. My regular Yok has been missing quite a while. Today called over a slim girl walking past. Boobs only A but very firm and high (age 19 just enough to be able to work). Small waist and great curve to the thigh. White skin from Chiang Rai (Chiang Rai girls very common here). This one had natural nose and natural tits. Name was Minaa (named like the Thai month of March) Number S something (I forget). A quick chat first and then decided fairly promptly that the chemistry seemed good. Quite tall in heels (I guess average but not too short).

Bubbly personality but did not understand English at all. No problem for me. She liked joking around. I often get problems with girls complaining the dick is too big and it hurts. Today the opposite. This girl tells me not to be worried about putting it all in, like pleading for me to really give it to her. Horny little thing. She admitted she actually likes dick bigger than Thai size (not so common). She claims she got 2 shots (1 from the DATY). Nice looking pussy and tight. Many sex positions. She diddled herself while being fucked too at times. A good sign of being turned on. Screamed quite loudly, perhaps slightly over the top and hips moved well. Asked me to come back tomorrow for round two.

I nearly forgot to mention extended time BBBJ in the bath too, like she did not want to quit the blow job while rubbing her tits on the balls. Claims to have only worked there 5 weeks and only first had sex at age 18. Must be a fast learner. A very enthusiastic girl. Joked that she was scared with a tiny pussy, but eventuated she was not scared at all. LOL Originally she claimed she did not like kissing but started to get into the kissing during the sex once she got turned on.

I find it very hard to find a suitable girl at La Belle that is into sex like this. May have been just unlucky despite several tries, or the hot sex girls just don't have the look I like. My only useful girl at La Belle has been Jip, who I have known for years, but she seems to have less sex stamina than she used to. In Nataree I found great looks and crap service or mediocre looks with better service, but never both together. Sometimes is just good or bad luck in the selection. Only ever found one really great girl at Utopia too. Most of my other favourite soapy girls over the years, either disappeared or I had to got over them if emotional pressure.

Amsterdam seems to have a bigger selection of pretty girls to my taste than most other Soapies I have tried. That is the only reason for going there, and location fairly convenient too. Still far too many nose jobs though (same as most higher class soapies). I did spot some other very do-able girls, at least for good looks. Amsterdam is expensive so forget it if you are budget conscious.

Something I always wanted to ask: why do many of the massageshops have names that are references to Holland? Like "tulip","Amsterdam","windmill","orange", . Even "Annie" is a Dutch name.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1526461]I quote you "way overpriced". I remember some of your past comments too. I am not telling you what you like, I just remember what you told us, like you never pay Farang Surcharge for example. Go ahead, experiment as you wish and then report. Commenting on experiences is better than speculation about stuff that is not your scene at all.

I remember the stuff about ilikemassage photos not being photo-shopped. Ha Ha! Believe the papasans recommendations too. There is just so little we agree on. You appear to like Nataree, where I don't. You tell us all, we can only chat to the girls before committing, at bars. LOL.

Each to their own way.[/QUOTE]I think you need to brush up on your reading skills. Every comment you've made in the above post is misquoting me or taking what I've said out of context. And I notice you still can't tell us whether or not there's a farang surcharge in Amsterdam. Sounds like you're just making up most of these experiences of yours. And telling everyone about your big dick? Whatever.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1526560]Something I always wanted to ask: why do many of the massageshops have names that are references to Holland? Like "tulip","Amsterdam","windmill","orange", . Even "Annie" is a Dutch name.[/QUOTE]Are you Dutch? I would not take the names too seriously. Anne and its variations Annie and Anna is probably the most common foreign name adopted by Thais living overseas (Anne can be a Thai name too) because its easy to pronounce for them and for Farangs for one thing (perhaps their Thai name was hard to pronounce) , and it probably sounds nice. I don't know of any place called Windmill here (but I remember the windmill in the Moulin Rouge). Okay Amsterdam has a windmill effigy. Just so you don't miss it when going past. Long Beach used to be called "Love Boat" and they have a big "boat" type neon lights structure.

Is Orange a Dutch word? I recall Sinaasappelsap as what they call orange juice, so I guess Sinaasappel is Dutch for orange. Funny, but no more so than our "pineapple" (which also has little to do with apples).

We have so many massage shops named after flowers or fruit, I don't think it means much. They have to come up with a name that foreigners can remember easily. Innocuous names.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1526404]500 Baht surcharge as normal. It's expensive and not worth it unless you hit the right girl[/QUOTE]I did specify Amsterdam Farang Surcharge.

Some girls claim its a dick size surcharge (but unrelated to actual size which is not measured), as Thai girls are always whinging that Farangs, and various other races have big dicks (compared to SE Asian). These complaints are much rarer in overseas countries, like Europe.

Unfortunately these things can affect the girl's performance. Sometimes (often in Asian oriented soapies) get a girl who has straight stiff legs and will not allow more than a 50% penetration and is showing distress (appearing to whince with pain or probably anticipation) with only just the knob in so far, which is silly in my view. The girl just needs to relax properly in most cases. Girls used to Thai, Japanese, Korean customers can be Farang dick scared. This can be easily one of the most important factors that spoil a session.

One pretty girl in Soi 24/1 was knocking back Farangs in general (and I assume also Indians, blacks, etc), just in case. Large dick size (or even normal) is a disadvantage, as is being a westerner. Its not about bragging. Its just the mention of realistic problems that affect a session with some Thai girls used to only/mainly S.E. Asian partners, who are perhaps not really into fucking in a big way. Other Thai girls expect to fuck for just 5 minutes (saying that Japanese customers are very quick) which is also a problem.

They do the "Oooh you too big!" routine with all their customers, especially the Japanese guys with the micropenises. It's just a show. Use a bit of lube and bang it in deep. You need to be more assertive with some of the girls or they'll just see you as easy money. If they're refusing Indian men it has nothing to do with penis size. Check out the famous BBC article 'Condoms too big for Indian men".

[QUOTE=*****man;1526816]Use a bit of lube and bang it in deep. You need to be more assertive with some of the girls or they'll just see you as easy money.[/QUOTE]Girls are either willing to make it enjoyable or not. Being assertive doesn't help me to get a good session. Catering to what they like, turning them on (where possible) , works better. For those who fuck a piece of meat or stiff corpse like girls or star-fish, great.

[QUOTE]Check out the famous BBC article 'Condoms too big for Indian men".[/QUOTE]Some maybe interested for a laugh (not me. I would assume it was bullshit) but really the media has very few clues about sex, hookers, bargirls etc. So many Myths out there.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1526792]Are you Dutch? I would not take the names too seriously. Anne and its variations Annie and Anna is probably the most common foreign name adopted by Thais living overseas (Anne can be a Thai name too) because its easy to pronounce for them and for Farangs for one thing (perhaps their Thai name was hard to pronounce) , and it probably sounds nice. I don't know of any place called Windmill here (but I remember the windmill in the Moulin Rouge). Okay Amsterdam has a windmill effigy. Just so you don't miss it when going past. Long Beach used to be called "Love Boat" and they have a big "boat" type neon lights structure.

Is Orange a Dutch word? I recall Sinaasappelsap as what they call orange juice, so I guess Sinaasappel is Dutch for orange. Funny, but no more so than our "pineapple" (which also has little to do with apples).

We have so many massage shops named after flowers or fruit, I don't think it means much. They have to come up with a name that foreigners can remember easily. Innocuous names.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your reply.

I'm Belgian, not Dutch.

"Orange" is the name of the Ruling Royal Dynasty in The Netherlands.