Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Betong; 1241229]Figured wrong for you. May have gotten the B1000 she wanted from the next guy, five minutes later.

A small but growing number of Soi 6 girls are now asking for B1000. They figure they can get it because, well, they often do get it. It's a free market, both for buyer and seller.[/QUOTE]They can ask what they want. They are technically independent contractors there. The bar keeps the 300 and the girls keep all of what they get. The one thing I have not seen there is a huge Japan / Korean influx yet. There are some, but not like the BKK Gogo's now that are 80-90% with inflated prices now. Once they come in major numbers, prices will go way up.

[QUOTE=Betong;1241229]A small but growing number of Soi 6 girls are now asking for B1000. They figure they can get it because, well, they often do get it. It's a free market, both for buyer and seller.[/QUOTE]Actually I can count the number of times I've been asked for 1000 over the last few years on one hand. I got that a few times at Clansman bar, and then last weekend from that one I mentioned, who said that she wanted more because she's new there. I can't remember whether I've actually ever paid the 1000 asked.

Some of the MILF types at Route 66 or Red Point have also been happy with 500. It's been at least a year since I've tried one of them though.

[QUOTE=Lugalzaggizi;1241111]I am not saying that a sex worker does not want attractive and fit men, but physical attractiveness takes a distant second to monetary benefits.[/QUOTE]By Jove! Do you mean that all those ladies that called me "hansum man" on the street did not mean it and were just out to get my money?

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1241347]By Jove! Do you mean that all those ladies that called me "hansum man" on the street did not mean it and were just out to get my money?[/QUOTE]Of course they meant it. You had a very "hansum" bulge in your back pocket.

I was at Silver Star on Walking Street last night. That bar is always fun; it has 2 jacuzzi shows; many naked girls; girls you can easily fondle.

As I was leaving that packed bar at approx 11 PM, 1 Indian looking guy was walking in. The door guy stopped him and told him it was 300 Baht. He was made to pay 300 Baht for a drink coupon. I paid 125 Baht for a Singha. There is never any cover charge for White or Northern Asian tourists.

Poor Indians. I feel for you all.

Lugalzaggizi,

Your reports are long and always interesting and I guess you being a school teacher it is a way to present new words to us guys here on a sex site. I'm not sure if your writing style is as uptight as you but you might what to try something new if you haven't already. I'm not sure it is even open any longer? From you hotel LK, go up to 3rd. And see if the CASTLE is still open, it so, give it a try it might loosen you up a bit?

Enjoy. LBM

I read nearly every report from page 74 back to here, took me a couple of days. Now ready for my trip to Pattaya.

Thanks gentlemen for the info and entertainment.

Mr Lugalzaggizi was of course, the stand out, in respect of entertainment.

[QUOTE=Lugalzaggizi;1241111].I found that the Thai sex workers in Pattaya were by-and-large commercially oriented.[/QUOTE]I am relieved to see the results of your research, Lugalzaggizi, and I hope that our membership takes this valuable information into account in their further dealings with the the sex [i]workers[/i].

[QUOTE=GreenBud; 1241526]I was at Silver Star on Walking Street last night. That bar is always fun; it has 2 jacuzzi shows; many naked girls; girls you can easily fondle.

As I was leaving that packed bar at approx 11 PM. 1 Indian looking guy was walking in. The door guy stopped him and told him it was 300 Baht. He was made to pay 300 Baht for a drink coupon. I paid 125 Baht for a Singha. There is never any cover charge for White or Northern Asian tourists.

Poor Indians. I feel for you all.[/QUOTE]As an onlooker why didn't you stand up for Indian guy, I am a British Indian and was trying to enter Walking street disco with two of my English friends, bouncer stopped me and wanted a cover charge, I basically told him what I thought of him and my English friends refused to go in as well, consequently bouncer waved us all in.

[QUOTE=Harry 294;1241906]As an onlooker why didn't you stand up for Indian guy, I am a British Indian and was trying to enter Walking street disco with two of my English friends, bouncer stopped me and wanted a cover charge, I basically told him what I thought of him and my English friends refused to go in as well, consequently bouncer waved us all in.[/QUOTE]You stand up for your friends. Everybody else is on their own unless the situation gets really serious. GreenBud was leaving the bar. He didn't know the Indian guy so he was right not to get involved. The issue was over a cover charge for the Indian customers. That is nothing. Are fellow Japanese customers who don't know me from shinola supposed to stand up for me when I get charged a 1000bt farang fee by La Belle massage parlor in BKK merely because I am white? Get serious. I want to say 'you are not in Kansas anymore, Dorothy, ' even if it doesn't completely apply because you are from India. I have been to India. I seem to remember the two tier pricing at many hotels. One price for locals and another for Westerners. Look man, lots of things are unfair in this world. Being charged a cover fee because you are Indian is not kosher, it may not even be good business, but so what? Pay it with a smile if you like the bar, the way I pay the farang tax when I go to La Belle or take your business somewhere else. In the real world (outside the USA) owners of private property like bars, restaurants,and hotels have a right to refuse customers or charge extra for whatever reason. It is discrimination straight up. There is not a damn thing you can do about it except take your business elsewhere or pay the fee, become a valued customer to the bar and perhaps they will stop discriminating against you personally. I can think of a lot of other examples where farangs are discriminated against in Thailand. I don't let it bother me.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1241923]You stand up for your friends. Everybody else is on their own unless the situation gets really serious. GreenBud was leaving the bar. He didn't know the Indian guy so he was right not to get involved. The issue was over a cover charge for the Indian customers. That is nothing. Are fellow Japanese customers who don't know me from shinola supposed to stand up for me when I get charged a 1000bt farang fee by La Belle massage parlor in BKK merely because I am white? Get serious. I want to say 'you are not in Kansas anymore, Dorothy, ' even if it doesn't completely apply because you are from India. I have been to India. I seem to remember the two tier pricing at many hotels. One price for locals and another for Westerners. Look man, lots of things are unfair in this world. Being charged a cover fee because you are Indian is not kosher, it may not even be good business, but so what? Pay it with a smile if you like the bar, the way I pay the farang tax when I go to La Belle or take your business somewhere else. In the real world (outside the USA) owners of private property like bars, restaurants,and hotels have a right to refuse customers or charge extra for whatever reason. It is discrimination straight up. There is not a damn thing you can do about it except take your business elsewhere or pay the fee, become a valued customer to the bar and perhaps they will stop discriminating against you personally. I can think of a lot of other examples where farangs are discriminated against in Thailand. I don't let it bother me.[/QUOTE]Well said, Natty. Thailand (and Asia in General) is not America and is not Europe. Therefore noone should expect it to be like America or Europe. Racial discrimination of all kinds is widespread and still it is not a problem for most. Being white I am advantaged in many ways but even despite that there are places where outright discrimination is practiced and I never even had a thought of questioning that. That's life. You don't like their social rules, you don't go there. As simple as that.

Even despite all this ANYONE can have plenty of fun in Thailand: Indian, White, African, you name it. There will be enough girls and enough fun for all so no need to whine.

[QUOTE=Harry 294;1241906]As an onlooker why didn't you stand up for Indian guy, I am a British Indian and was trying to enter Walking street disco with two of my English friends, bouncer stopped me and wanted a cover charge, I basically told him what I thought of him and my English friends refused to go in as well, consequently bouncer waved us all in.[/QUOTE]I can assure you this is not racism. After all Thais are Asians too.

No. It is business sense I am afraid.

Many men from India enter those joints in groups, stay in to enjoy the show, but never order a drink, then they leave with their money sound in their pockets.

Hence the vouchers. Can't blame the owner, can you?

[quote=natty bumpo;1241923]i seem to remember the two tier pricing at many hotels. one price for locals and another for westerners.[/quote]. ...and it is scandalous the way they rip you off in the tourist attractions. for example, if you are or look indian, it will cost you a few rupees to gain admittance to the taj mahal. if you are foreign it will cost something ridiculous like $50. blatant discrimination. i don't recall any indians arguing on my behalf whilst i was remonstrating with the ticket seller. they think, they're tourists, they have money, they can afford it even though many of the tourists are backpackers traveling on a budget.

i don't agree with this double tier pricing system but i cannot help but think that the shoes on the other foot here. and i suspect that many bars do not like indian customers as maybe they don't 'buy', but like to handle the merchandise, if you know what i mean. it is unfortunate that british indians who will buy drinks, bar fine etc suffer in the crossfire.

btw...i managed to get to about the third line of one of 'lugs' reports before i felt myself developing a headache and had to give in. i wasn't the rampant verbiage that put me off but the lack of any discernible paragraphing. his reports look like the north face of the eiger. 0/10 for the teacher:).

[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1241989]BTW.I managed to get to about the third line of one of 'Lugs' reports before I felt myself developing a headache and had to give in. I wasn't the rampant verbiage that put me off but the lack of any discernible paragraphing. His reports look like the north face of the Eiger. 0/10 for the teacher:).[/QUOTE]I second that assessment. His reports are virtually unreadable without undue effort.

I was at the Windmill (Winderjammer?) Club A Go Go last night.

I ordered the happy hour draft beer special. The bartender put half of the old foam beer and half draft! I was sitting right next to the bar.

Disgusting! I was wondering why sometimes the draft beer taste terrible.

Many bars will have happy hour (some the whole night) draft beer specials. When you open a keg, a lot of foam comes out; then soon, it turns into normal looking beer, but it doesn't taste right. In the US, they trash that crap. In the Windmill, and probably other bars also, they don't trash it, but rather they give it to unsuspecting customers.

But I give credit to the waitress and bartender. When I complained, they immediately changed it into a pure draft beer. Obviously, the waitress knew about it.

The White manager heard by complaints, and he came over. He said his name was Phil. I said the beer was half old foam beer. He said his bar doesn't do that. But then I said I just saw him do it. He said he will talk to the bartender. He then left without talking to him. Then the bartender just filled another draft beer with the same ratio. I think the manager saw it. The manager did nothing.

Phil, are you ignorant twit or a lying sack of shit?