Pattaya Reports

I spent 2 weeks in Pattaya, going to go go bars daily including Happy A Go Go
where the nudes feel embarassed (?) when you look at her part too long and
Sisters A Go Go.Never felt a need for massage though there are tons around, more than a go gos.The two times I had a massage I met a lady in the daytime on Walking Street trying to go to Bali Hai pier and she took me to my room insteadl lol, and the second time I asked a beach road girl to massage me in my room.Both times I could strip them and shower too.
For the girl who took me back to my room in her scooter she says she is a
waitress in her sister's restaurant in Naklua.Scammed a beer and fried chicken from mee too.As she left my room someone on the same floor also called her in for service.
Anyway you only pay 200 baht for a massage anywhere though I saw a joint offering massage for 199 baht.Wonder where the 1b goes to

I agree with Marco as I got one 22 year old whose parents are teachers in
Isaan and who works in a supermarket.Regret sending her back after short time and called her 5 days later as she was booked solid till she went back

I might add the downside of being over 60 is that you cannot screw more than the mandatory once a week though your girl is a stunner compared to the 7 times overnight in your 30s.The only way you can compensate is to
delay ejaculation so that you can go 3 or 4 rounds a night but it may spoil your sleep.

[QUOTE=Johnthescot]Guys, I read a lot on Bangkok massage thread but looking for lots of advice on Pattaya MP???[/QUOTE]
For soapies I like Sabai Room. There are three or four khon chia (what do we call this in English -- pimps?), but the one to talk to is the old guy with the glasses.

[QUOTE=Betong]For soapies I like Sabai Room. There are three or four khon chia (what do we call this in English -- pimps?), but the one to talk to is the old guy with the glasses.[/QUOTE]

I think you call the material on the bathtubs in that place.....fungus, black mold and bad smelling mildew. The place is owned by a Hong Kong businessman who doesn't give a crap about the girls or the customers.....evidenced by the condition of the rooms and the smell in the rooms. Also, they put girls to work who just come into the place for work.....waiting until the next HIV test cycle to get their tests....and that is the most dangerous time....as brothel owners will tell you (i.e. the most tests positive are from new workers). I think you are a lot better off across the street where the rooms are clean and the policy different.

(also, Noi was a mamasan there for at least 15 years.....when she asked for a few more baht salary, they just fired her and told her to eat sand...real nice!!)

(also, also...agree about the old guy....but don't take any suggestions from him...he is only making suggestions to satisfy his own financial arangements and not your sexual desires.....the place is a complete crapshoot)

[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2] I think you are a lot better off across the street where the rooms are clean and the policy different.[/QUOTE]
You mean Sabailand? The rooms are clean now only because they've just been redone after being ignored even longer than Sabai Room's. Sabailand was certainly the pick of Pattaya soapies through the '80s and early '90s but over the past ten years or so I've had consistently better experiences at SR. In fact I had yet another dud at SL just last week (#105, Phen, nice girl with no aptitude, recommended by the head guy there).

ALL these places are indeed crapshoots unless you have a solid recommendation, preferably from a fellow customer. But over many years the old guy at SR has never steered me wrong, and has put me on to some great talent. How he treats customers he doesn't know well, especially ones who don't speak Thai, I have no idea.

Selection is pretty thin at both these places now, and probably won't pick up till around November.

[QUOTE=Betong]You mean Sabailand? The rooms are clean now only because they've just been redone after being ignored even longer than Sabai Room's. Sabailand was certainly the pick of Pattaya soapies through the '80s and early '90s but over the past ten years or so I've had consistently better experiences at SR. In fact I had yet another dud at SL just last week (#105, Phen, nice girl with no aptitude, recommended by the head guy there).

ALL these places are indeed crapshoots unless you have a solid recommendation, preferably from a fellow customer. But over many years the old guy at SR has never steered me wrong, and has put me on to some great talent. How he treats customers he doesn't know well, especially ones who don't speak Thai, I have no idea.

Selection is pretty thin at both these places now, and probably won't pick up till around November.[/QUOTE]

No, I mean Sabai Dee....Sabai Land......is indeed another mildew and fungus jungle. Reality is that if there are five girls in the bowl, the mama/papa/pimp will call out a number...or maybe a few numbers. They are trying to make a sale......maybe if he likes you (i.e. you have tipped him), he won't steer you to a girl who he has heard complaints about (if and only if there are others available). The bottom line is that he doesn't know what goes on in the room, customers from different areas of the world are interested in different activites and, unless a guy complains or is rejected (and tries to make another choice)......the touts really don't have a clue in that venue. I have been to a place like Tulip in BKk where you can discuss what you want and the manager will tell you yes or no on certain girls (anal, big penis issues, experienced collector of sperm, etc.).

I lived and worked in Thailand for many years and these places were visited very, very often. I have sat with the old guy for over an hour and talked to him. He is a decent guy for a papa......but still has a personal interest for the house...not you.

[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2]No, I mean Sabai Dee[/QUOTE]
Ah, that's the only one of the three I've never liked. Maybe just bad luck, but the khon chia always had an attitude, treating all farang like tourists. And I seem to recall that their pricing isn't all in, i.e. you've got to negotiate with the girl for extras . . . ?

There's an art to getting good recommendations from these guys, as I learned years ago when going to MPs with Thai colleagues. You have to ask the right questions and not always the obvious ones. For example, is there anyone else here you recommend? Meaning the girls who are too exclusive to sit in the tank (like the famous Phuphe of Sabai Room) or who are upstairs working, as of course most of the best ones will be at any given time.

I agree that some of the guys don't necessarily know much about the girls except for their overall popularity, but the more switched on ones do (and strangely enough, female khon chia almost always do). And of course they're only looking out for themselves, which is why you make it in their financial interest to give you the very best they have. I don't always tip and I seldom give much, but when the old guy at SR does things like calling in girls for me on their day off (one was with her boyfriend on Jomthien Beach!) I've been pretty generous.

The official AOT Limos are now eye-gouging tourist Bht3000 for BKK to Pattaya transfers now that the private operators have been prevented from soliciting business there. Most airports in other countries may charge a small premium to give travelers the comfort that they are not going to be ripped off by touts, but at 2 or 3 times the going rate, it looks like the “official” transportation are the rip-offs.

I first hit Oasis and there were plenty of hot girls there. I made a mental note to return there the next day.

My first night took me back to Boesche, where I was glad to see Puki again. It was a no brainer for me to BF her Bht1500 ST and she gave the same excellent service. This time instead of paying the full Bht600 BF, a game of chance is involved, where you spin a wheel and possibly pay no BF. From memory the possibility of a freebie is like 1 in 12, with a 50% chance of paying the full Bht600 BF and lesser BF amounts falling somewhere in between. This time my BF was Bht400. There was another new girl (possibly days old in the business) dancing naked on the stage. Her body was a perfect 10/10 but her face was only average. Puki saw me looking and said I should come back tomorrow for her.

I went to the bars across the road from my hotel for Tip but she was nowhere to be found on this trip. However at the New-Orn bar I did sight this hottie where on my last trip 2 punters were trying to bid for her. See my previous Pattaya report for more info.

Day 2. I wondered along to the back of my hotel LK Renaissance to Hell Club etc and other bars I never knew existed. I ended up picking up a hot slim girl from Oasis called LB (not necessarily spelled that way but sounded like that). BF was B590 and her ST tip was B1000. I think the place only opened at 3pm, when I went there were only a few girls and the mama-san was reluctant to release her for an ST outside the premises but agreed because my hotel was so close. She was pretty good and I got my BBBJ. I ordered some room service which she ate very little of as she was watching her weight.

I met up with fellow ISG member Gagoo. I first went to the Classroom to see if Da (#142) was there, I had been dreaming about her since my last visit, but she was away during the entire time I was there. She still wasn’t in so we hit a few Go-go bars. There were less hotties at the Beach Club this time than my previous visit. But Gagoo showed me Peppermints and Happy A Go go. There were plenty of hotties there but I decided on Waey at Boesche another slim petite hottie. The great thing about Puki was that she was perfectly fine with me going with another girl where most other bars they can get a little disappointed if you don’t pick them again. Waey turned out pretty good. Bought her some food from street vendors B25 then got BBBJ with LT. Another round in the morning. All up B2000. Initially she wanted another B500 for a second round but was happy with the B2000 I gave her.

My last night I met with Gagoo again and his Canadian friend. Unfortunately his friend preferred the bars in the Soi3 area rather than go-go bars so he split up, Gagoo and I headed towards the go-go bars of walking street. We first made a detour to Classroom to see if Da (#142) was around and this time she was! She was everything like she looked like on the site, so I told her I would first tour the bars and would return for her. At Happy a-go-go I spotted a slim hottie that was giving me the eye. However, despite my weakness for skinny girls, I decided to pass on her on return to the Classroom for Da. So I bid Gagoo farewell and we went our separate ways. Back at the Classroom I told Da that the only thing I was after was regular sex with BBBJ, once at night and then again in the morning, which she agreed. She had her own motorbike and gave me a lift back to my hotel. I did get my BBBJ but not my second shot in the morning and insisted on her full B2000 payment. I thought WTF would anyone want a LT without at least a second round in the morning. Also she has had a kid and unfortunately her pussy was not as tight as Puki’s so I did not really bother to press on and waste my energy with what would be a mediocre second round anyway. Anyone tried the Classroom airport pickup service with the girl? I wonder what sort of services are available? Anyway Da is the only decent looking girl at The Classroom and if that was service you got, I would not be returning and can’t recommend it to anyone else either. More unfortunate that my last night was wasted on her when I could have gone back to Waey, Puki or even tried that hottie at Happy. I guess with all things you never know until you try and post my reivewi here for the benefit of others.

[QUOTE=Betong]Ah, that's the only one of the three I've never liked. Maybe just bad luck, but the khon chia always had an attitude, treating all farang like tourists. And I seem to recall that their pricing isn't all in, i.e. you've got to negotiate with the girl for extras . . . ?

There's an art to getting good recommendations from these guys, as I learned years ago when going to MPs with Thai colleagues. You have to ask the right questions and not always the obvious ones. For example, is there anyone else here you recommend? Meaning the girls who are too exclusive to sit in the tank (like the famous Phuphe of Sabai Room) or who are upstairs working, as of course most of the best ones will be at any given time.

I agree that some of the guys don't necessarily know much about the girls except for their overall popularity, but the more switched on ones do (and strangely enough, female khon chia almost always do). And of course they're only looking out for themselves, which is why you make it in their financial interest to give you the very best they have. I don't always tip and I seldom give much, but when the old guy at SR does things like calling in girls for me on their day off (one was with her boyfriend on Jomthien Beach!) I've been pretty generous.[/QUOTE]


Either you are a bit confused....or YMMV strikes again!! In my experience, Sabailand was the place that had the general entry and the separate negotiation with the girl. That has changed (I was there last month)...and it is now all in (1600b) plus tip for exceptional service of course!!. Sabai Dee has always been all in.....from the first day they were opened....and I was there for the event. I made a pick at Sabai Dee in May....and it was surely all in....no negotiation at all. 100%, for me......both are currently all in.....Sabai Land was the only one that ever had the entry option with the negotiation in the room with the girl......Sabai Land had a decent selection and the papas were OK. I have never been treated like a tourist at Sabai Dee......I park in the attached garage and enter through the back entrance.....get a drink.....the papas are all giving out their opinions (at least giving out numbers)........and yes....there are a lot of bused in Chinese tourists. Sabai Dee is the newer place with the nice wood paneling in the entry area and rooms. Sabai Dee always has a large selection with some real gems to be found.

Sabai Room has had at least 2 incidents that I know of where girls tested positive for HIV after being with a lot of customers (between HIV test cycles).....and at least one girl was kept working when the manager knew she was the victim of an active case of tuberculosis (which is one thing I personally am very afraid of). This girl's Thai boyfriend died of TB....and the management knowing this....and seeing that she was very sick...allowed her to work as she was testing neg. for HIV. It got so bad that girls working there got concerned that they were getting coughed on...and knowing that the boyfriend died.......got very upset. I just don't like that place because they don't give a shit about the customers, workers, or anyone for that matter.......only the baht counts...........

Mr. Lover Boy # 2

I agree with the first part of your statement. In the moment only Diamond VIP Massage allows to negotiate the prize with the girls. You pay 700 Baht for the normal use ( Cleaning your body in the Jacuzzi and foam body massage on the air mattress). All things after have to be negotiated with the girls.

And you are right that the Hongkong Chinese owner of Sabaii Room sucks out his profit without renovating the rooms. I wonder how long that works well.

Your second part- that’s coming it strong. I hope you know that you can compromise the reputation of that massage parlour with such kind of statements. How could you check the truth content of this defamatory statement? I know myself, that the girls often chatter humbug, especially when they are angry about something or work for another MP.

I am since about 9 years a customer of all 4 MP’s. And I know the Papasan of Sabaii Room very well. He always gave me serious and good advices when I asked him about the girls. And of course he looks sometimes on his own business. But finally I can say: As the question, so the answer.

And by the way, I have never heart such things about Tb and HIV positive girls who are allowed to work after the infection is known. And my lady who stayed together with me since about 5 years didn’t know about such incidents. And believe me, the girls have a lot of time to chit chat while sitting in the fishbowl.

As I am just now in Pattaya, I will ask him about that things. Curious about the answer. And I will inform you in time.
Take care
Lemon Tree

[quote=poopbunny]the official aot limos are now eye-gouging tourist bht3000 for bkk to pattaya transfers now that the private operators have been prevented from soliciting business there. most airports in other countries may charge a small premium to give travelers the comfort that they are not going to be ripped off by touts, but at 2 or 3 times the going rate, it looks like the “official” transportation are the rip-offs.
[/quote]i got a private taxi / limo from the airport to pattaya for 1100 bht last week from the arrivals level by gate 7. i would normally go to the departures level and negotiate a price there, and would anticipate spending no more than 1000 bht.

for what it is worth, i got a taxi from pattaya to the airport for an agreed price of 800 bht. the driver then wanted money for tolls (100 bht), and asked for a 100 bht tip at the end. no.

I took Bell Travel from the Suvarnabhumi airport to Pattaya for 150THB and thought the experience was superb. I received the information at

Pattayanewbie.com/bell.html

I would have returned with them but my exit flight was early in the morning (4:00) long before their last airport return shuttle (19:00 the previous day) and too late for their first shuttle that day (6:00).

When I hired a taxi from one of the many "taxi reservation stations" I found one that acceptable English was spoken (to avoid the "misunderstandings" that usually mean the ATM/Bankomat farang has to pay more to avoid an unpleasant argument with the taxi driver) and negotiated the 800THB Pattaya. Airport return fee to include the tolls and NO tip expected (as I am such a trusting soul, I had this written in English and Thai on my reservation receipt).

Lastly, and I am sure this will frost the balls of many of the "Overpay Oscars" out in the ISG Thai "La-La" land, when my "no money. No honey" girlfriend insisted she go to the airport with me and wait I gave her the 150THB to return to Pattaya on Bell Travel and saved the rest of my baht for the next trip and other p4p!

I'm doing my part to contain p4p costs in Thailand, are you doing yours?

From what I have read, probably not!

[QUOTE=Lexb]I took Bell Travel from the Suvarnabhumi airport to Pattaya for 150THB and thought the experience was superb...[/QUOTE]
Are you sure it wasn't 1500THB?

Daddy07,

Lexb, is right 150 baht. When I left Pattaya to come back to the states in beginning of August I took Bell Travel which is at the regular bus station. The office is on the right in a buildng separate from the regular ticket windows that sell ticket for other destinations throughout Thailand.

My bus was to leave at 11:00am to the airport. I had purchased the ticket a few days before I left. I was dropped off at 10AM, I went inside gave my receipt to the desk and they gave me a ticket with a seat assignment 1A, big A/C bus, they took and loaded my luggage and at 11:05 the bus pull out of the station only half full, went straight for the motorway and off we were to the airport and you don't have to worry about the toll cost, all included. By 12:30 we reach the airport. Great service and price! I don't see how they can make money?

LBM

I will be in Bangkok in October. I want to go to Pattaya to check out the world famous insanity.

I can go down either on a Monday/Tuesday or a Friday/Saturday. Which is better for action?

I's assume that weekdays = mellower / maybe more choices, less pressure. BUT, what do I miss by not being there on the crazier days?