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From a previous post, you were analyzing Reynosa to Mty. May I ask where you live? I live in McAllen. Never been to the Laredo BT. I understand that they are developing a BT in Progresso which is about a 30 minute ride from McAllen.
BTW, I just took the Bus from Monterrey to Reynosa and it was only $15. 75 one way. It seems that the only Currency in the World that has faired worse than our shitty Dollar is the Mexican Peso. Even the Canadian Dollar is worth more than the US Dollar.
My 2 cents:
Believe me Whome... we all know the quality of girls working at the border town Zonas.
And why complain about a bus fare being $15,75??? Mexico has always been cheaper than the US in many more things that you can think off.
Doctors are cheaper.
Dentists are cheaper.
Utilities are cheaper
Food at the market is cheaper.
Meat at the marker is cheaper...
Gasoline is cheaper
Living in Mexico is easier than in the US.
Again... Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth.
[QUOTE=Whome69]From a previous post, you were analyzing Reynosa to Mty. May I ask where you live? I live in McAllen. Never been to the Laredo BT. I understand that they are developing a BT in Progresso which is about a 30 minute ride from McAllen.
BTW, I just took the Bus from Monterrey to Reynosa and it was only $15. 75 one way. It seems that the only Currency in the World that has faired worse than our shitty Dollar is the Mexican Peso. Even the Canadian Dollar is worth more than the US Dollar.[/QUOTE]
Hola Whom69,
I live in a Midwestern City, approximately four to five hours from Laredo by air. I do occassionally travel through Laredo by air when I choose to ride the bus to Monterrey. But, I never really choose to stay for a visit to NLBT because I passed judgement on it compared to MTY over five years ago.
Anyway, the reason I mentioned Reynosa initially was out of my own curiosity, which was peaked by a friend that frequents that area. I really can't comment on the quality of experience in either location, NLBT or Reynosa, with any accuracy these days because I haven't visited there for at least five years. My perceptions five years ago were that MTY is far superior in every respect to both locations, and by a huge margin. But, MTY is a little more difficult venue to logistically learn, so some might find the task somewhat difficult in comparison to having a Zona kind of environment.
Carlos was instrumental in teaching me everything he knows about MTY, so it became quite easy for me there. I am totally comfortable there at this juncture, five years later. So, I opt to visit MTY in lieu of the Zonas on the border.
I have a friend living in Houston, one that I have actually traveled the world with, mongering in the PI, Thailand, Indonesia, Singapore, and Monterrey. He travels occassionally to Monterrey, but I believe he settles for Reynosa at this juncture instead of making the trip all the way to Monterrey from Houston. Plus, he had some work scheduling limitations that make Reynosa more convenient, at least it is more convenient to visit the border scene than to travel to Monterrey.
I don't know if he'll see this post, and jump in here or not. If so he can confirm or deny his opinions. I know he reads the board, but he is content commenting only infrequently. He seems to prefer to monger in Asia, but the difficulty of travel there prompts him to supplement those trips with something in between, so he opts for Reynosa.
Recently, he told me that Reynosa isn't too bad, and I've been hearing that BT has really declined. I may be imagining it, but I believe he may have said that he believes Reynosa to be superior now to BT. Of course, I don't believe he believes that BT and Reynosa combined can equal Monterrey, but he finds it easier just to travel to Reynosa rather than invest the time, and slight additional expense, of traveling to Monterrey in lieu of Reynosa.
I haven't visited BT or Reynosa in years. Fact is, the one and only time I ever visited Reynosa, was when, literally, the night before my visit, Reynosa was hit with a tornado, and it went directly through the middle of the zona. There were power lines down, no electricity, etc...A great time to visit the Zona for the first time, right? WRONG...no girls, no action to speak of....So, I never really got the chance to fully evaluate it. Plus, it was probably about five years ago that I visited Reynosa for the first time. With respect to BT, the time frame is about the same. In comparing the quality of experience in NLBT, I ultimately decided that Monterrey was so far superior that to waste my time in NLBT, after making such a long trek from the Midwest was ludicrous. So, ever since, I have frequented Monterrey.
[QUOTE=Whome69]From a previous post, you were analyzing Reynosa to Mty. May I ask where you live? I live in McAllen. Never been to the Laredo BT. I understand that they are developing a BT in Progresso which is about a 30 minute ride from McAllen.
BTW, I just took the Bus from Monterrey to Reynosa and it was only $15. 75 one way. It seems that the only Currency in the World that has faired worse than our shitty Dollar is the Mexican Peso. Even the Canadian Dollar is worth more than the US Dollar.[/QUOTE]
The Reynosa boystown is no MTY but as USB pointed out, each one has its pros and cons. Reynosa for me is easy to get there and back. While MTY is a little more effort and I just dont have the time these days. Reynosa does have great girls there. I have a relationship with about 7 girls that work there and are my regulars. There are easily 30-40 door girls on the later days of the week, cannot comment on the other days as I have not been there. The conditions in Reynosa are not as bad as one would think. I have heard from a good friend that went to NLBT that its in the shitter now and has been for a while. Most of the clubs that I liked and were reasonable price are gone and no one really goes that much. The boystown in Progresso is sad and not worth a visit, been there and done that, they may have 3 buildings all stocked with fuglies. If there airfare to MTY would go down I could make a return trip soon. I dont do the club girls like USB and Carlos, I stick to the MP's and I believe thus the reason that I dont mind the border town that much, same kind of service and price, but in a better setting in MTY in AC, haha.
life may or may not be easier...but, one thing i have noticed about mexico is that it is a damned site noisier than the usa. what is it with all that noise, music blasting from each and every store front, in the streets, blasting music in the clubs, blasting horns at the drop of hat... :d quiet...quiet, i need peace and quiet for a complete recovery.
actually, i agree with mj, it is seemingly much more convenient. by that i mean, regimented, documented, confirmed, organized, disciplined, and quite significantly quieter. i believe that things are more lax in mexico, giving the impression that life is easier. but, it is actually smoke and mirrors. life is made more complicated by a more lax environment.
religion??? watch bill o'reilly tonight...very interesting take on the influence of the catholic church in the us, including the protestant churches as well, and specifically with respect to the hugely declining influence over our society with respect to the formerly powerful influence of the christian religion in general, especially in one city in particular, that is, compared to years past...i won't let it out of the bag, but you will find it most enlightening carlos.
mexico is certainly a reprieve from the confines of a very orderly lifestyle such as what we experience here in the usa. i would return, but i am retired.
[quote=carlos perez]i still insist it is easier mj.
like right now, freedom of speech is more to the point here in mexico than in the us.
the catholic religous right now has limited power as compared to the christian religous right in the us.... and wow, did our religous right made us suffer!!!
interest rates for housing and cars and credits are, might be high, but right now there no traps as the housing bubble that just recently burst in the us (thing that happened in 1994 for us).
it's easy for you as a foreign guy to work in mexico, than me going to us and find a job.
the list is long mj...
might be that i chose the wrong word... not easier... less complicated?
is that better????[/quote]
[QUOTE=Carlos Perez]My 2 cents:
Believe me Whome... we all know the quality of girls working at the border town Zonas.
And why complain about a bus fare being $15,75??? Mexico has always been cheaper than the US in many more things that you can think off.
Doctors are cheaper.
Dentists are cheaper.
Utilities are cheaper
Food at the market is cheaper.
Meat at the marker is cheaper...
Gasoline is cheaper
Living in Mexico is easier than in the US.
Again... Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth.[/QUOTE]
I am NOT complaining about the buses in Mexico. They are clean quality buses that run well. As whicn you know, there is nothing in the USA to compare to the Executive Class of Mexican Bus. My reference to the 15. 75 price (last Thursday) was in response to USB's quoted bus price of $18. The actual price is even less than what he quoted. A bargain to the $40+ toll for the Autopista to Monterrey. I hate ALL Toll roads. The toll has risen over time. Very profitable for the private owners.
Health Care is cheaper in Mexico but you do have to make a "wise choice" in finding a quality provider. Their standards are lower than the USA. And we all know that the Pharmacy is significantly less.
Utilities are cheaper but are not as reliable. I assume you have a Water tank on your home?
Food products are cheaper BUT generally the standard of quality of the fresh market (produce and meats) is lower but you do have a much wider variety of produce. The US and the rest of the world gets the better product exported for obvious reasons. I dealt in Mexico for many years in this area. Is fresh poultry products still more expensive in Mexico? I think most of the Ag. Tarrifs are gone or will be gone by the end of the year BUT Mexico still has problem in Poultry production? I know that the Mexican cold cut/sausage industry drives a demand for US Poultry. What are the concerns for the increase in Corn Prices in the price of Tortillas and other corn related products in Mexico? I hear that Mexican Cokes are going to Corn Syrup from their Cane Syrup? I LOVE Mexican Cokes.
Gasoline at this time is cheaper by about a dime a gallon, but this can change. I have seen higher prices in Mexico. People on both sides of the River take advantage of price differences. Diesel is waaaaaaaaaaaay less in Mexico. A friend of mine goes to Camargo to fill up his Suburban. He lives in Rio Grande City.
My point was not an attack on Mexico. Mexico is a beautiful Country. A truly Capitalistic Country assuming you have $$$$. It looks like I will be involved in a business in Monterrey again. I don't particularly like the new corporate tax rates in Mexico (18%) for Maquillas which won't effect us since we will be a "regular" SA. On the other hand, I will have a "need" to go to Monterrey on a regular basis:
BTW, my reference to the Peso was that it was tied to the Dollar but the Peso continues to erode faster. The Dollar sucks. Last year, I converted over to the Euro at 1. 25 and now it is over 1. 40. A 12%+ return just on the rates.
Granted, the depth of quality of women in Reynosa is nothing compared to Monterrey but you can find a good one if you are willing to wait. In fact the entire City is nothing compared to Monterrey.
One thing about your City that I do not like is your traffic patterns? If you miss an exit, you have to travel "forever" to turn around! Very unforgiving. People complain about the traffic but most major cities suck.
I know you are not attacking Mexico...
Whome says: "Health Care is cheaper in Mexico but you do have to make a "wise choice" in finding a quality provider. Their standards are lower than the USA. And we all know that the Pharmacy is significantly less."
You know how much I pay for a check up? 500 pesos at an upscale clinic.
You know how much I paid at my dentist at the upscale Colonia del Valle district where everything is expensive? (Clean up, no cavities, but I had a second day job, a coverup job on to teeth that have eroded) 1000 pesos.
Monterrey is in the middle of a dessert, before the El Cuchillo dam and Cerro Prieto Dam, there was a severe shortage of water 80's and back... it is customary, but not inclusive, to have a water tank at home.
"Food products are cheaper BUT generally the standard of quality of the fresh market (produce and meats) is lower"
This is totally untrue... ever heard of e-coli outbreaks in Mexico like in the US???
Poultry.. totally agree.
Corn, I agree... but the rise in price is due to producers selling their stuff to make bio-diesel. AND THIS is going to hit hard food producing in the US, cause the US buys yellow corn from Mexico (yellow corn... we buy white corn from the US)... or is it the other way around???
Well, anyhow, this is going to hit both Mexico and the US hard in 2008
[QUOTE=Whome69]I am NOT complaining about the buses in Mexico. They are clean quality buses that run well. As whicn you know, there is nothing in the USA to compare to the Executive Class of Mexican Bus. My reference to the 15. 75 price (last Thursday) was in response to USB's quoted bus price of $18. The actual price is even less than what he quoted. A bargain to the $40+ toll for the Autopista to Monterrey. I hate ALL Toll roads. The toll has risen over time. Very profitable for the private owners.
Health Care is cheaper in Mexico but you do have to make a "wise choice" in finding a quality provider. Their standards are lower than the USA. And we all know that the Pharmacy is significantly less.
Utilities are cheaper but are not as reliable. I assume you have a Water tank on your home?
Food products are cheaper BUT generally the standard of quality of the fresh market (produce and meats) is lower but you do have a much wider variety of produce. The US and the rest of the world gets the better product exported for obvious reasons. I dealt in Mexico for many years in this area. Is fresh poultry products still more expensive in Mexico? I think most of the Ag. Tarrifs are gone or will be gone by the end of the year BUT Mexico still has problem in Poultry production? I know that the Mexican cold cut/sausage industry drives a demand for US Poultry. What are the concerns for the increase in Corn Prices in the price of Tortillas and other corn related products in Mexico? I hear that Mexican Cokes are going to Corn Syrup from their Cane Syrup? I LOVE Mexican Cokes.
Gasoline at this time is cheaper by about a dime a gallon, but this can change. I have seen higher prices in Mexico. People on both sides of the River take advantage of price differences. Diesel is waaaaaaaaaaaay less in Mexico. A friend of mine goes to Camargo to fill up his Suburban. He lives in Rio Grande City.
My point was not an attack on Mexico. Mexico is a beautiful Country. A truly Capitalistic Country assuming you have $$$$. It looks like I will be involved in a business in Monterrey again. I don't particularly like the new corporate tax rates in Mexico (18%) for Maquillas which won't effect us since we will be a "regular" SA. On the other hand, I will have a "need" to go to Monterrey on a regular basis:
BTW, my reference to the Peso was that it was tied to the Dollar but the Peso continues to erode faster. The Dollar sucks. Last year, I converted over to the Euro at 1. 25 and now it is over 1. 40. A 12%+ return just on the rates.
Granted, the depth of quality of women in Reynosa is nothing compared to Monterrey but you can find a good one if you are willing to wait. In fact the entire City is nothing compared to Monterrey.
One thing about your City that I do not like is your traffic patterns? If you miss an exit, you have to travel "forever" to turn around! Very unforgiving. People complain about the traffic but most major cities suck.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Carlos Perez]I know you are not attacking Mexico.
Whome says: "Health Care is cheaper in Mexico but you do have to make a "wise choice" in finding a quality provider. Their standards are lower than the USA. And we all know that the Pharmacy is significantly less. "
You know how much I pay for a check up? 500 pesos at an upscale clinic.
You know how much I paid at my dentist at the upscale Colonia del Valle district where everything is expensive? (Clean up, no cavities, but I had a second day job, a coverup job on to teeth that have eroded) 1000 pesos.
Monterrey is in the middle of a dessert, before the El Cuchillo dam and Cerro Prieto Dam, there was a severe shortage of water 80's and back. It is customary, but not inclusive, to have a water tank at home.
"Food products are cheaper BUT generally the standard of quality of the fresh market (produce and meats) is lower"
This is totally untrue. Ever heard of e-coli outbreaks in Mexico like in the US?
Poultry. Totally agree.
Corn, I agree. But the rise in price is due to producers selling their stuff to make bio-diesel. AND THIS is going to hit hard food producing in the US, cause the US buys yellow corn from Mexico (yellow corn. We buy white corn from the US). Or is it the other way around?
Well, anyhow, this is going to hit both Mexico and the US hard in 2008[/QUOTE]Health care.
1. I have a $35 Co-pay and the Doc is my client.
2. Dentist. The same. But If I remember right, Cleaning is about $75.
3. The Best Cosmetic Surgeon in the Rio Grande Valley Area practices in Reynosa but lives in Sharyland. (Raul Lopez) His prices are about the same as US Doctors BUT he is "the man" if you want to stay in the area.
Water tanks?
You know better than this. They are not just in Monterrey. Lets be honest. Mexico has chronic problems with water pressure (and quality) all over the Republic. In fact, all of Mexico's basic Utility systems (water, sewer and electric) has problems.
Markets?
As to the fresh product. I was in the business for many years stepping away from daily operations in 1997 and fully retiring from it (active trading) in about 2000. The number of trucks and trains I moved into Mexico City (Central de Abastos) over the years is staggering. I kept my fingers in it. A little bit when I had my processed Poblano and Avocado (and some OJ for the Mexico) business for the Commerical Market (US) in Reynosa and that ended in 2003.
I KNOW my statement to be true. Mexican standards are not the same as ours. I am talking about grading. #1s are not the mainstay in Mexico. Can you find it? Of course, but you will pay for it.
As to E-coli, ect, this is NOT a function of food standards but health standards. Besides the typical Mexican's GI tract is much better than the average American.
For as long I can remember, Mexico has imported yellow corn which is used for animal consumption. Mexico doesn't grow much yellow corn. Mexico also imports signigicant amount of cracked corn. Mexico has been importing larger amounts of White Corn for human consumption but since significant amount of tarrif increases, white corn imports have dropped dramatically. It is used for the Tortillas. Gruma and Groupo Minsa were and still control the process market. I think they control about 90% of the Mexican Market. Gruma is huge and has operations all over the World including the USA. In fact, I think Gruma now generates most of their Revenue from the USA. Also we use to do alot of businesss with Azteca and Maseca.
We boomed when Mexico still had import quotas in place. Just a little secret for obvious reasons. After NAFTA in 94, these quotas were reduced and then eliminated in 1997.
After the Quotas were eliminated, Mexico had a great deal because US Producers would dump their excess production to them at discounts sometimes up to 30% PLUS they got low interest Loans from the US CCC. I understand there are tarrifs BUT as usual, you know, "tarrifs can be worked out! " (wink, wink). There has been a High Tarrif on White corn imports but I bet there are some American companies getting thru and making LOTS of money since the Mexican market price is much higher than US prices.
I have never exported White Corn from Mexico. I don't think there is much of an export market. Whatever corn is grown in Mexico is consumed in Mexico. I think the typical Mexican diet is about 40-50% corn?
There has been some "tense" situations as a result of Tortilla prices some time ago? Mexico is also losing their Corn Farmers partly because subsidies are dropping. Or maybe they have been eliminated by now? HOWEVER, I am not really sure since I have been out of the loop for years.
Another problem in Mexico which I heard about, is that Processors have used Yellow corn for the Tortillas. It was never meant to be used for Human Consumption. Yellow corn was used for obvious reasons. It is cheaper than White corn.
Corn prices are already being seen in US Prices. What is sooo sad? Is that the Processors are using the Yellow Corn prices for the excuse to raise prices in Mexico. Mexican corn is historically above US prices. Even now. I read Corn Production is significantly increasing all over the World but will Mexico lower their Corn prices?
Mexican producers are selling their White Corn for food production. It is not being sold for fuel. I know this.
Capitalism is alive and well in Mexico.
Anyway..
I prefer Mexico over a country that lives in total, absolute, integral, day after day, fear of terrorist attacks...
... Which will or might not come... but your actual goverment is having a field day using that to pull the strings of a once great country.
I love the following: "Mission acomplished" and "we are at war".
Up to today, the US has not been able to explain what "mission was acomplished" and who the US is at "war" with.
PS: Am so sorry everyone in the world is better fit to resist e-colli over you guys States side... but does that excuse the poor level of sanitary conditions that are starting to prevail in the US???
Back in 92 in the US, when the Jack in the Box e-colli scare went up, no stone was left unturned to finish and stop any possible outbreak like the one that happened.
Now it's standard headline in the news, not even top headline news (might be a little box down in the corner front page)...
... or am I wrong???
[QUOTE=Whome69]Health care.
1. I have a $35 Co-pay and the Doc is my client.
2. Dentist. The same. But If I remember right, Cleaning is about $75.
3. The Best Cosmetic Surgeon in the Rio Grande Valley Area practices in Reynosa but lives in Sharyland. (Raul Lopez) His prices are about the same as US Doctors BUT he is "the man" if you want to stay in the area.
Water tanks?
You know better than this. They are not just in Monterrey. Lets be honest. Mexico has chronic problems with water pressure (and quality) all over the Republic. In fact, all of Mexico's basic Utility systems (water, sewer and electric) has problems.
Markets?
As to the fresh product. I was in the business for many years stepping away from daily operations in 1997 and fully retiring from it (active trading) in about 2000. The number of trucks and trains I moved into Mexico City (Central de Abastos) over the years is staggering. I kept my fingers in it. A little bit when I had my processed Poblano and Avocado (and some OJ for the Mexico) business for the Commerical Market (US) in Reynosa and that ended in 2003.
I KNOW my statement to be true. Mexican standards are not the same as ours. I am talking about grading. #1s are not the mainstay in Mexico. Can you find it? Of course, but you will pay for it.
As to E-coli, ect, this is NOT a function of food standards but health standards. Besides the typical Mexican's GI tract is much better than the average American.
For as long I can remember, Mexico has imported yellow corn which is used for animal consumption. Mexico doesn't grow much yellow corn. Mexico also imports signigicant amount of cracked corn. Mexico has been importing larger amounts of White Corn for human consumption but since significant amount of tarrif increases, white corn imports have dropped dramatically. It is used for the Tortillas. Gruma and Groupo Minsa were and still control the process market. I think they control about 90% of the Mexican Market. Gruma is huge and has operations all over the World including the USA. In fact, I think Gruma now generates most of their Revenue from the USA. Also we use to do alot of businesss with Azteca and Maseca.
We boomed when Mexico still had import quotas in place. Just a little secret for obvious reasons. After NAFTA in 94, these quotas were reduced and then eliminated in 1997.
After the Quotas were eliminated, Mexico had a great deal because US Producers would dump their excess production to them at discounts sometimes up to 30% PLUS they got low interest Loans from the US CCC. I understand there are tarrifs BUT as usual, you know, "tarrifs can be worked out! " (wink, wink). There has been a High Tarrif on White corn imports but I bet there are some American companies getting thru and making LOTS of money since the Mexican market price is much higher than US prices.
I have never exported White Corn from Mexico. I don't think there is much of an export market. Whatever corn is grown in Mexico is consumed in Mexico. I think the typical Mexican diet is about 40-50% corn?
There has been some "tense" situations as a result of Tortilla prices some time ago? Mexico is also losing their Corn Farmers partly because subsidies are dropping. Or maybe they have been eliminated by now? HOWEVER, I am not really sure since I have been out of the loop for years.
Another problem in Mexico which I heard about, is that Processors have used Yellow corn for the Tortillas. It was never meant to be used for Human Consumption. Yellow corn was used for obvious reasons. It is cheaper than White corn.
Corn prices are already being seen in US Prices. What is sooo sad? Is that the Processors are using the Yellow Corn prices for the excuse to raise prices in Mexico. Mexican corn is historically above US prices. Even now. I read Corn Production is significantly increasing all over the World but will Mexico lower their Corn prices?
Mexican producers are selling their White Corn for food production. It is not being sold for fuel. I know this.
Capitalism is alive and well in Mexico.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Carlos Perez]Anyway.
I prefer Mexico over a country that lives in total, absolute, integral, day after day, fear of terrorist attacks
Which will or might not come, but your actual goverment is having a field day using that to pull the strings of a once great country.
I love the following: "Mission acomplished" and "we are at war".
Up to today, the US has not been able to explain what "mission was acomplished" and who the US is at "war" with.
PS: Am so sorry everyone in the world is better fit to resist e-colli over you guys States side... but does that excuse the poor level of sanitary conditions that are starting to prevail in the US?
Back in 92 in the US, when the Jack in the Box e-colli scare went up, no stone was left unturned to finish and stop any possible outbreak like the one that happened.
Now it's standard headline in the news, not even top headline news (might be a little box down in the corner front page), or am I wrong?[/QUOTE]Carlos, you know better. I will remember you to say this again when we are sitting together. My laughter will interrupt you.
We ALL know what the Government says and what the people "think" are two different things. I am sure you are VERY aware of the BS "Wall" that Bush wants to build along our Border. In fact, I have NEVER liked Dumbya. Even when he was Governor of Texas. He is just a patsy. A nice guy, just still a lightweight in the mental department. Sadly, he is controlled by the ultra-conservatives Bible Thumpers and Big Business.
Yes, I will agree that Fox is a better leader than Bush but Fox has his problems too. And the Presidents before Zedillo? Some were really smart and did wonders in building the Country, but sadly, when they left office, they took the "improvements" with them. And the worst one was Salinas. How much is this guy worth? I hated the six year "depression" that hit my area after the change in Presidents.
As to E-Coli, ect? This IS the reality. There have been outbreaks in the past BUT they didn't make the news. It is the nature of the business when you are processing hamberger meat in a large factory setting. What we are seeing is not necessarily a decrease in our standards BUT the increased media coverage which is instant. Our Media is more content in covering Paris Hilton than real news.
However, it is true that our present Administration has let our guard down in the food inspection area. Especially for imports. They have the Business mentality. This "problem" has helped Mexico because many Americans do not trust Chinese made goods now. They do trust Mexico!
I can say with first hand knowledge up thru the late 1990's, the grades of fresh product was higher in the US than in Mexico. I see no reason for any change in this difference over the past number of years.
Now to the health standards, Mexico is different in how fresh meat is distributed in many ways. Do we need to go down this?
I processed Poblano Peppers and Avocados in Reynosa. The Poblanos were no problem since it is hearty and cooked again before processing BUT the Avocados? Much more delicate and we were always on the watch for Listeria. Salmonella, ect. The Plants were operated at US Standards and we were inspected by the USDA. After 911, there were more "security" rules that put into place but they were no big deal. Just more crap from a Government who wants to rule by fear.
I would have no problem living in Mexico, or for that matter, anywhere in the World. Why? The reality is that money rules. If you have money, you can live nicely even in the worst places in the World.
You must admit that for most of the people of the World, it really doesn't really matter who is in power! As long as there is relatively safety free from actual genocide and people can make a good living, then the people don't care! Look at Iraq? How many people were "happy" living in Saddam's Iraq vs the "USA" Iraq? Even in the US, how many people live any different now than before 911? Few! What can I say, there will always be pussies in the World who will blindly follow their Leaders (elected or otherwise).
The same thing is in Mexico about day to day affairs BUT there is a difference. The blow off valve for your Country is the USA. We get some of your best people and some of your your worst (legally and illegally). Mexico would be in much worse shape if wasn't for the US. How much money is sent to Mexico from workers (legal and illegal) in the USA? The Mexican economy can't asorb all of the new workers entering the work force. Mexico NEED's to slow their growth rate in order to really prosper. (HINT: China) Imagine if the USA was able to force all of the Illegals in the USA to return to Mexico? What would happen to Mexico?
FYI, I have a Mexican stomach! I almost never get sick to my stomach but I was born and raised on the Border. Maybe this explains it!
Thank you for your answer, Carlos.
Well, my question was asked because I read sometime ago in some website that she is not very well right now. As she was really nice with me I wanted to locate her but I just realize it is a nonsense.
Your advice for options are welcome.
Regards.
[QUOTE=Carlos Perez]Hello Albatross...
The working treshold for a girl working at a 5 star club is no more the2-3 years.
Althought I don't go to the Obsession at night, I know as a fact that the manifest has changed 2-3 times over in the last 2 years.
Working at another club... impossible to determine.
There are are too many SC to follow (over 20 SCs). The girls also change their names or mainly, moved from the city or maybe retire.
I can asure you one thing Albatross, there are many more options from where to make a new pick.
I guarantee that to the full extent and I also guarantee that you'll have fun.
The Obsession for the moment boasts 30-40 girls at night.
I must point out that I believe you'll find changes at the club asides from the girls... it is more expensive now than before.
If you have any questions on Monterrey and how things are going on right now... I'll be glad to answer them... put you up to date.[/QUOTE]
Although you are both correct. I would give Whome a point. You may move up one step.
Whome argues with 'behind closed doors' facts. What you and I see or hear about what our leaders are doing is a theatrical front for you to enjoy. If you put anything into it beyond the headlines, then you are brain-washed.
Gotta love the C-SPAN senate debates. The ultimate soup opera. Oh so funny how our congressmen are fighting on our behalf. They can kiss my ass. We all know, like Whome said, it is those with money that have the congressmen fighting for them. Don't dwell on this any further. It is those with money. And if anyone believes otherwise, then they fall under the "ignorance is a bless". Those 98% of us who work for the 2%.
Wasted
[QUOTE=Whome69]Carlos, you know better. I will remember you to say this again when we are sitting together. My laughter will interrupt you.
We ALL know what the Government says and what the people "think" are two different things. I am sure you are VERY aware of the BS "Wall" that Bush wants to build along our Border. In fact, I have NEVER liked Dumbya. Even when he was Governor of Texas. He is just a patsy. A nice guy, just still a lightweight in the mental department. Sadly, he is controlled by the ultra-conservatives Bible Thumpers and Big Business.
Yes, I will agree that Fox is a better leader than Bush but Fox has his problems too. And the Presidents before Zedillo? Some were really smart and did wonders in building the Country, but sadly, when they left office, they took the "improvements" with them. And the worst one was Salinas. How much is this guy worth? I hated the six year "depression" that hit my area after the change in Presidents.
As to E-Coli, ect? This IS the reality. There have been outbreaks in the past BUT they didn't make the news. It is the nature of the business when you are processing hamberger meat in a large factory setting. What we are seeing is not necessarily a decrease in our standards BUT the increased media coverage which is instant. Our Media is more content in covering Paris Hilton than real news.
However, it is true that our present Administration has let our guard down in the food inspection area. Especially for imports. They have the Business mentality. This "problem" has helped Mexico because many Americans do not trust Chinese made goods now. They do trust Mexico!
I can say with first hand knowledge up thru the late 1990's, the grades of fresh product was higher in the US than in Mexico. I see no reason for any change in this difference over the past number of years.
Now to the health standards, Mexico is different in how fresh meat is distributed in many ways. Do we need to go down this?
I processed Poblano Peppers and Avocados in Reynosa. The Poblanos were no problem since it is hearty and cooked again before processing BUT the Avocados? Much more delicate and we were always on the watch for Listeria. Salmonella, ect. The Plants were operated at US Standards and we were inspected by the USDA. After 911, there were more "security" rules that put into place but they were no big deal. Just more crap from a Government who wants to rule by fear.
I would have no problem living in Mexico, or for that matter, anywhere in the World. Why? The reality is that money rules. If you have money, you can live nicely even in the worst places in the World.
You must admit that for most of the people of the World, it really doesn't really matter who is in power! As long as there is relatively safety free from actual genocide and people can make a good living, then the people don't care! Look at Iraq? How many people were "happy" living in Saddam's Iraq vs the "USA" Iraq? Even in the US, how many people live any different now than before 911? Few! What can I say, there will always be pussies in the World who will blindly follow their Leaders (elected or otherwise).
The same thing is in Mexico about day to day affairs BUT there is a difference. The blow off valve for your Country is the USA. We get some of your best people and some of your your worst (legally and illegally). Mexico would be in much worse shape if wasn't for the US. How much money is sent to Mexico from workers (legal and illegal) in the USA? The Mexican economy can't asorb all of the new workers entering the work force. Mexico NEED's to slow their growth rate in order to really prosper. (HINT: China) Imagine if the USA was able to force all of the Illegals in the USA to return to Mexico? What would happen to Mexico?
FYI, I have a Mexican stomach! I almost never get sick to my stomach but I was born and raised on the Border. Maybe this explains it![/QUOTE]
Hello all, I'm glad to be posting here for the first time. I would like to write about my latest visit to the best mongering local in Mexico- Monterrey.
I spent 4 days in Monterrey and stayed at the Hotel Moreno on Reforma street in downtown (200 pesos per night and chica friendly. I recommend because it was cheap and very clean.) and here is what I did:
On the first night I went to the Ambassador club on Madero street# 419. There were 20 women there and most were 8-10's. I chose one dark-haired lady named Gisela and had FS for a total of 500 pesos with privados included. Gisela is a tall morena with fake boobs and a snake tattoo on her left wrist. She was just ok.
Then, I went to Club Varron around the corner from the Ambassador on Zaragoza street. Nothing special so I went back to the hotel. I stopped to eat at Pakos Takos on Madero and had 4 delicious steak tacos.
Next night I went to strip club called La Dama on Colon street. In this club there are many Philipine ladies working there and I took one out for a salida at a total of 1500 pesos for 2 hours. Her name was Cruz and she did very good service. I recommend her. Club manager says that there are girls of other nationalities there also. I will return on next trip.
On third night I went to a small club called Sexy Girls on Santiago Tapia street, a little far way from downtown, but the club was good. There were only about 7 girl there but they were cute. I took a blonde named Marisa back to my hotel for a price of 1350 for 1.5 hours. She was very nice and let me do bareback on her but she was out the door as soon as her time was up- no GFE here!
On my last night I decided to visit a few of the MPs. I visited Mamacita's on Madero (#124), Masaje Brenda on Reforma (#319) and Hot on Juarez (#444). The best in selection was Mamacita's because they had 8 girls on site and 4 were muy caliente. All 3's prices were about the same 150 pesos for 30 mins or 300 for 1 hour of FS or similar.
Overall, Although I'm new here on the International Sex Guide I have had several visits to Monterrey and other parts of Mexico. I have enough experience to know that Monterrey is the best mongering destination in all of Mexico. My most recent trip confirmed this.
Thanks to all my new friends here. I hope my information is of use.
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USB-
I read your post and the reason I believe Regular Members post here, at least that was the reason in my case, is because our posts are monitored by Jackson which can take up to a full day for them to register. In that time frame, five or six posts (or more) can occur and the Regular Member's post will be sent to the back more than likely never to be read. As for ulterior motives and why Senior Members are not allowed to post here, that is unknown to me and I share your same sentiment reagading that topic. I used to post here simply to share my unbiased experiences with other mongers and really didn't care if they are Senior Members or Regular Members, or if they are residents of Monterrey or simply visiting mongers. I am sure that is the case with the other members that elected to post on this thread. But, that all changed when a Senior Member elected to treat my posts and knowledge of mongering with inferiority and disdain. Simply put, I am too far ahead to argue with someone so far behind.
Anyway, I will give you a post even though I am really no longer interested in artculating my Monterrey experiences here or anywhere else. And yes, as the title implies, it includes your beloved "G" girl.
So, my Monterrey GF has broken up with me for the fourth time in approximately that many months. It is Wednesday night and I am going to try and find my favorita at the Tangalay to pay for some much needed attention and counseling. Sh_t, she is not there. And to make things worse, this is absolute the most pathetic selection I have ever seen here in quite some time. I sucked down three beers in anticipation for the night shift, a shift that never came or was so subtle in appearance that I never noticed. So, out the door and into the loud confines of the Infinito. Now, I am not a big fan of the Infinito as it tends to be a bit impersonal for a gringo unless you are the honorable and well-renowned Wasted or USB, but tonight ended up different. The Infinito was rocking. I believe I saw Wasted's "X" girl on stage but was not sure. Regardless, the hottest girl in the club. Now, I spotted a girl whom in turn spotted me, smiled, and I instantly knew who she was. The infamous "G" girl. So, I bring here off stage and she instantly mentions your name and not the monicker. She told me who I was and that you had physically described me after our Pasaralas encounter. I take her up to the privados and, as a gentleman to you, never touched or groped her. We simply talked. After the privados, we went down to the club and continued talking and drinking for about an hour. A lot about you and a lot about her. She is still contemplating the TJ thing but is unfortunately still in "make money" mode. We the conversation turned to sex, I simply said I could not as I wanted to respect USB and that I possibly still had a GF. What I did notice, and I am not a psychiatrist nor have I had any formal training, but I get the feeling that it is indeed entirely over but that the smile on her face when discussing your relationship with her was one that she is going to treasure for the rest of her life. I know that sounds kind of cheesy and something that should be on the inside of a Hallmark card, but that is what I got out of our one hour encounter. Anyway, a lovely girl but those fake tits...what was she thinking?
After my "G" girl encounter, I headed over to Banderas and spent some time with a nineteen-year-old cutie. 60 pesos copa damas and a table dance in a completely private 12x15 room at 3 for 100 pesos. Never made it to the third floor where they offer full service, but I believe anything can happen on the second floor as you have your own private room. On this particular night, six chicas were working of which two were doable including the one I did a privada with.
Anyway, there is your post USB. I would have posted sooner to tell you about my encounter with your lovely "G" girl, but just as you have retired from Monterrey mongering, I also have retired from Monterrey posting.
"What could you have possibly talked about for an hour?"
Forgot to tell you this. She did mention a "novia" and not of the plutonic nature. If true, do not feel bad. My ex back in the states has a brother who's first wife went gay and remaines so to this very day. He was a solid dude then, and continues to be a solid dude today. As for the hour, the girl at the Tangalay pretty much always gave me that much time. That is why she, as well as that establishment, became my favorites.
Good luck with the mongering retirement. I'll still be reading your posts, just no longer responding to them or anyone else's for that matter.