Santiago

I am doing a mileage run to earn status on Delta and because of this I will be in Santiago on a Sunday at the end of the month from 7 to 5 PM. I am looking to experience the sights, in more ways than one. I looked and lamansiondelmasaje is not open on Sundays sadly. What are my options for quality, low risk mongering? Hotel for the day? Find someone on apps and be upfront? Another massage place? I speak little Spanish as well so will need to stay in the center part of the city.

This was my first trip to Chile, so again let me thank the prior posters that made my trip a lot of fun. This trip was more for the tourist aspect than the playtime aspect but still had a great time. Since time was short and some tours long, I only ventured into the café con piernas scene. There were a few online girls that I wanted to see but the time or day didn't match.

First I like to say, I really like the looks of the Chilean women. I'm talking about the everyday women who were walking the streets or at the mall or wherever. They seemed taller than what I was expecting. The Euro-Latina look was just up my alley. If I was only 40 years younger. LOL.

My reports aren't that great because like others that wrote before me, some of the cafes, I couldn't find the name of the street they were located on. Some café's I couldn't find the name because as I was walking by, the door would open and a pair of bare titties would be looking at me. So please forgive some of the incomplete information. Also want to add that a lot of cafes are not open on Saturdays and I think all are closed on Sundays.

The first café was Gazu. This café had three girls there with one cute and younger vennie. They charged 4000 for my drink and 3000 for the dance. Higher than what was previously reported. I have to admit, the dance was nice and long. No USA Timed strip club lap dance which was great. She asked if I wanted a privado but wanted to explore more and if I didn't find anything better I would come back.

Near Gazu was the Galleria with the spiral walkway. This is where the bare titties would show themselves. There were at least 4 or 5 cafes there. The prices here were 3000 for the drink and 3000 for the dance. I did have somewhat of a problem at one of these places. I did one dance with this girl and said I would be leaving. She said no, have a privado with me. I said I would come back but she kept on trying to keep me there. I gave her a 20000 bill and before giving me the change she held the money and said you can use this money for some chupa. I said no many times and it got to the point where I basically said give me my change now. The cashier looked up and finally the girl gave me my change. Of course she asked for a tip, but I just walked out. I'm assuming if I did a privado with her, she would have probably try and get me off as soon as possible. She was too hardcore for me. I was having second thoughts about trying the other cafes but glad I did. I did go into every café in the galleria but no privado.

To be continued.

I then walked to the other side of PDA. I actually saw some caf de piernas while riding on the hop on hop off bus. These last cafes were on Teatinos near the corner of Compania De Jesus. Only name I could remember was caf tropical and the others were next to it. I believe four cafes next to each other. Caf tropical was closed the day I went so went into the one farthest from the corner. The girl said it was 3000 for the drink and 5000 for the dance. I was ready to walk but said screw it, lets see if this dance is worth 5000. It was good with lots of stick shifting but not any better than the others. At the end of the dance I asked how much in total. She spoke with the cashier and she told me 7000 total. So maybe I heard wrong but the price was the same as in the galleria.

The last place was the caf near the corner of Teatinos and CDJ. I asked the girl how much and she said 3000 for the drink and 2000 for the dance. This was the only caf that had other men in it. There was a total of four girls with two entertaining two guys. This place was the liveliest of the cafes. The girl I picked was from Peru with a nice firm ass. Here there were no seats so you stand while you drink and have the dance. This girls dance was great. Lots of hands everywhere and my hands everywhere. At one point she lifted my shirt up and took her top off and just started grinding me titties to titties. She starts to blow in my ear and since her face was so close to mine, I leaned in for a kiss. She allowed it and even more so with plenty of DFK with lots of tongue. This lasted at least six minutes so then I asked how much for a privado. She said it would be 4500. Right up my alley. The room for the privado was more like a closet, changing room, locker room for the girls. Really tight quarters. I doubt it ever gets cleaned but there I was. Anyways, we start by making out. Slowly she gets my shorts to my ankles then my underwear. The shirt stayed on then it was my turn to slowly take her bikini top off, then her bottoms. All the while DFK. She then starts a BBBJ which was lovely. After a while she asked how I wanted to enter her. I told her she could decide. Then she pushes me back so I fall into the seat which hasn't been cleaned since who knows. At the time all I was thinking about was pucking this girl. By her emotions, she was liking this just as much as I was. Probably because of all the HJ I was getting at the other cafes earlier, I didn't last as long as I wanted. She then cleans me up with baby wipes and as I stood, I asked her for another baby wipe so I could wipe my ass with it. After getting my underwear and shorts back up where they belong. I told her I really enjoyed our time together and that I thought she was a great kisser. When hearing that she comes back over to me and we start making out again. I would say two minutes worth, then she realize that one of the other couples were waiting for the room. Outside the room she said since tomorrow is Sunday, most places would be closed and if I wanted she could come to my hotel. I told her I would like that but unfortunately I was flying out that night. I told her I wished I met her earlier and then we would have gone out like a regular couple. She liked that and gave me a long kiss goodbye. I did tip her 5000 and was thinking I guess you can find gems in these cafes. The long plane ride home was made shorter with the great memories of the encounter at the caf de piernas.

[QUOTE=QuackUp;2861036]I then walked to the other side of PDA. I actually saw some caf de piernas while riding on the hop on hop off bus. These last cafes were on Teatinos near the corner of Compania De Jesus. Only name I could remember was caf tropical and the others were next to it. I believe four cafes next to each other. Caf tropical was closed the day I went so went into the one farthest from the corner. The girl said it was 3000 for the drink and 5000 for the dance. I was ready to walk but said screw it, lets see if this dance is worth 5000. It was good with lots of stick shifting but not any better than the others. At the end of the dance I asked how much in total. She spoke with the cashier and she told me 7000 total. So maybe I heard wrong but the price was the same as in the galleria.

The last place was the caf near the corner of Teatinos and CDJ. I asked the girl how much and she said 3000 for the drink and 2000 for the dance. This was the only caf that had other men in it. There was a total of four girls with two entertaining two guys. This place was the liveliest of the cafes. The girl I picked was from Peru with a nice firm ass. Here there were no seats so you stand while you drink and have the dance. This girls dance was great. Lots of hands everywhere and my hands everywhere. At one point she lifted my shirt up and took her top off and just started grinding me titties to titties. She starts to blow in my ear and since her face was so close to mine, I leaned in for a kiss. She allowed it and even more so with plenty of DFK with lots of tongue. This lasted at least six minutes so then I asked how much for a privado. She said it would be 4500. Right up my alley. The room for the privado was more like a closet, changing room, locker room for the girls. Really tight quarters. I doubt it ever gets cleaned but there I was. Anyways, we start by making out. Slowly she gets my shorts to my ankles then my underwear. The shirt stayed on then it was my turn to slowly take her bikini top off, then her bottoms. All the while DFK. She then starts a BBBJ which was lovely. After a while she asked how I wanted to enter her. I told her she could decide. Then she pushes me back so I fall into the seat which hasn't been cleaned since who knows. At the time all I was thinking about was pucking this girl. By her emotions, she was liking this just as much as I was. Probably because of all the HJ I was getting at the other cafes earlier, I didn't last as long as I wanted. She then cleans me up with baby wipes and as I stood, I asked her for another baby wipe so I could wipe my ass with it. After getting my underwear and shorts back up where they belong. I told her I really enjoyed our time together and that I thought she was a great kisser. When hearing that she comes back over to me and we start making out again. I would say two minutes worth, then she realize that one of the other couples were waiting for the room. Outside the room she said since tomorrow is Sunday, most places would be closed and if I wanted she could come to my hotel. I told her I would like that but unfortunately I was flying out that night. I told her I wished I met her earlier and then we would have gone out like a regular couple. She liked that and gave me a long kiss goodbye. I did tip her 5000 and was thinking I guess you can find gems in these cafes. The long plane ride home was made shorter with the great memories of the encounter at the caf de piernas.[/QUOTE]Appreciate the writeup, you mentioned most of the cafes are closed on Sunday. Are any open?

[QUOTE=LonelyMan718;2860796]I am doing a mileage run to earn status on Delta and because of this I will be in Santiago on a Sunday at the end of the month from 7 to 5 PM. I am looking to experience the sights, in more ways than one. I looked and lamansiondelmasaje is not open on Sundays sadly. What are my options for quality, low risk mongering? Hotel for the day? Find someone on apps and be upfront? Another massage place? I speak little Spanish as well so will need to stay in the center part of the city.[/QUOTE]You are aware of the coffee shops and what they have to offer a monger, yes?

Hey Lonelyman,

Cafe Gazu was closed for the weekend. The girl I sessioned with said pretty much all the nasty Cafes would be closed on Sunday. Was not there on Sunday so can't verify but I would guess these places would be closed on Sunday. Sorry for the bad news. Maybe you could get on the hop on hop off bus, sit on the right side and when the bus makes it way toward Plaza Constitution, you can see if those cafes are open or not. You might have to do the escort scene but again this was my first time there so hopefully someone else can chime in.

[QUOTE=Aviator400;2861388]You are aware of the coffee shops and what they have to offer a monger, yes?[/QUOTE]I do but it's not clear they are open on Sundays.

I haven't been to a cafe in a while. The last time I went to one, it was by the Lo Vial metro in San Miguel. The place was near a bakery and I found it by luck because it was next to some stairs that blocked visibility.

The place was very discreet, there were girls available to dance and one of them offered me a more private service, but I couldn't go with her because I was passing by, I kept the coffee and some kisses for leaving a good tip.

Lately it has been difficult to coordinate a date, a few days ago I wanted to go out with a brunette named Zafiro, I saw her in this ad [URL]https://cl.mileroticos.com/escorts/amor-soy-zafira-tu-caribena-arrecha-morbosa-ardiente-dispuesta-a-todo/23116437/[/URL] but when I tried to contact her she didn't answer my call.

Then she responded to me by message on WhatsApp, but she wanted to coordinate by message, something I didn't like because I wanted to hear her voice, I asked her if I could call her and she said that she was on the street and couldn't talk, then I told her that I Let me know when I am in a safe place to call her if she is available and she didn't answer me anymore, maybe she wasn't even a woman.

Spent about two months now in BsAs, overall not bad, the girls are pretty, mainly meeting them off seeking and glambu, also tinder (I got Select subscription) and in clubs I invite them to the tables. Too bad argentine forum isn't as live as it used to be.

Looking to change scenery for a month and head to Chile. What is the main diff between the girls in Argentina and Chile in terms of looks and attitude? And the costs between the two countries? And finally picking up some regular girls in clubs / bars in Santiago?

Thanks in advance.

I've done both cities this year. Santiago is terrible. Yes you can find some women, but do not expect them to be very appealing. The apps were dead. Seeking and Tinder. You can meet girls in the clubs though.

BA is just better on all levels. Entertainment, food, and appearance of the women.

[QUOTE=SeanEZ;2872883]Spent about two months now in BsAs, overall not bad, the girls are pretty, mainly meeting them off seeking and glambu, also tinder (I got Select subscription) and in clubs I invite them to the tables. Too bad argentine forum isn't as live as it used to be.

Looking to change scenery for a month and head to Chile. What is the main diff between the girls in Argentina and Chile in terms of looks and attitude? And the costs between the two countries? And finally picking up some regular girls in clubs / bars in Santiago?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tacoma101;2872929]I've done both cities this year. Santiago is terrible. .[/QUOTE]Ok interesting, thanks Tacoma. I might just head to PDE or Mar De Plata in that case.

I'll be passing through Santiago for a couple of days this week on my way south. Just set up a Seeking account to look for a tour guide / escort. We'll see if I get any takers. My backup is a legit tour guide and a "cafe with legs". One of the days there will be a Sunday, so I may need an alternative.

- SbySW.

During a few recent visits to Santiago de Chile, I visited some cafes con pierna. I decided to write up my experience, so you can learn from it too. I'the like to thank Gary Levy (aka WT69) for sharing the famous cafe map, although in the end I took a slightly different approach than his map, as I explain below. It's worth noting that I see the cafes as a curiosity, a tourist attraction of sorts. I'm interested in „what is this good for" and „how does it work for me" rather than trying to make it fulfil my pre-existing, well-defined needs.

OK, so first of all, Chileans divide the cafes (abbreviated to CCP) into 3 categories:

1/ Type 1 - also known as „cafes de media pierna" (cafe with half a leg) - are cafes with enthusiastic female servers in skimpy outfits, who converse with customers. No touching is allowed, it's just conversation. These cafes have transparent glass, or even have a beer garden of sorts, and are often frequented by elderly gentlemen, men eager not to be tempted for more, but most of all just friends meeting for a chat, with the added benefit of girls that you can look at. Cafe Tarantino is a good example of this.

2/ Type 2 - touching is allowed and expected, as is grinding, and hugging. You pay per „dance", but extra services are not provided. Usually you can grope their tits and between their legs through clothes, kiss them here and there if that's your thing, or perhaps you can reach under their clothes. And they'll grope you. Usually clothes are not removed. Gazú is a great example of this category.

3/ Type 3 - like type 2, but extras are provided in private and some nudity happens quite often!

3 a / My own category „3 a" - where sometimes action happens in the open (HJ, BJ or even outright sex).

Extras are HJs or sex. BJs are extremely rarely offered as a stand-alone „product", are almost always covered, usually as very short foreplay before sex. Worth noting is that any form of sex in cafes is forbidden by law (as is all organised prostitution), which means the sex will usually happen in a very small and dirty bathroom, where you can barely fit in with the girl. Or a very small dressing room behind curtains. Forget about a bed or comforts. You'll be doing it standing up in a micro-bathroom, and the girl won't be trying hard. After the deed, the girl will carefully dispose of the condom. All in all, for full sex. Not really my thing.

There are 4 „traditional" galleries of cafes you should be aware of. The cafes change, their prices, opening times, services offered. But they stay in the same areas:

1/ Galeria de LOS Peluqueros (GDP) - Merced 839 - in English: the Hairdressers' Gallery (entrance -33.438224387902906, -70.64893209013074). Go DOWN the winding ramp (it's a ramp for walking, not for cars). The first cafe had 2 naked girls dancing, offering dances with touching (30 seconds per dance as it turned out), and put great pressure to immediately go to private. I say: skip it. The other 3 or so cafes are more typical type 3 cafes, with rather friendly ladies, nothing hardcore, but 2000 CLP per long dance (plus your own one drink for 2000 CLP) with some groping of bare titties and / or very friendly attitude is good enough for me.

2/ Galeria Santiago Centro (GSC), Alameda 949 (entrance -33.443111530769826, -70.64984298995527) - is an enormous maze of cafes in the basement level of this shopping center. At the (open air) entrance go down the escalators. It's just cafes con pierna, 23 of them, including 7 called Starleg and 7 called Alibaba. So it's best to refer to them by their store number (such as 114 A), presented at the entrance to each store. These are chiefly type 2 cafes, with some type 3 mixed in. I found them pretty overpriced, I asked around GSC and a simple dance usually costs 4000-5000 CLP, whereas in other cafes outside GSC it costs 2000-3000 CLP. „Cafe Blacks" (119 B) was cool, type 3, if you like black women. For a list of cafes and the galeria's opening hours, go to the webpage: galeriasantiagocentro<DOT CL — Locales — Cafeterias.

3/ Galeria del Punky (GP) San Pablo 1145 (entrance: -33.43421561386603, -70.65379090439704) - a galeria with most „3 a" category around. The first cafe on the left and the first on the right definitely qualify.

— Own experience: In the first cafe on the left a guy was just getting a blowjob when I entered, but in the end I was not convinced by „my girl" (the only other girl in the cafe) for something more than a dance. In the cafe on the right I decided to get serviced in the common room, but the girl wasn't really happy about it and the service was very short, score of 1/10 - waste of time and money. I also had a „dance" from a Chilean girl in the cafe deepest inside the gallery, door to the cafe facing the entrance. She was probably the most friendly of all the ladies I met, but I didn't decide to take her beyond a dance.

4/ Galeria Diagonal Cervantes (N entrance: -33.43413705412438, -70.64931052908665, S entrance: -33.43443541268718, -70.64948831518007) - a VERY seedy place, the gallery smells of piss, the girls stand outside the individual cafes, enticing you to enter. The area is often frequented by large numbers of men who only loiter around, although are not aggressive in any way. Most of the girls are very fat and unattractive, but there are some exceptions. I did not enter any of the cafes, but hey, whatever rocks your boat. Worth passing by to see. Seems safe enough.

Except these 4, there are numerous concentrations of 2-4 cafes around the city. For a list of these concentrations and individual cafes go to website: laestokada<DOT CL — BARRIO ROJO Santiago — Cafes con Piernas — Locales De Ccp En Santiago. Use Google Translate if necessary. But please note: it's not fully up-to-date. Only the most popular places.

Worth noting is also an extensive network of type 2 (not type 3) cafes called Gazú, which seem to have good quality control of the ladies and activities, and pretty reasonably priced (3000 CLP for your drink, 3000 CLP for a dance).

Personally I came to like Cafe Imperio (Teatinos 412, first cafe going from the corner, entrance -33.43881618103344, -70.65550376602292). The ladies are in their late 20's-early 30's, but this is very much to my liking, and for their age many of them are very attractive indeed (between 7 and 9 by my books YMMV), and very friendly! It's a type 3/3 a cafe, 1000 CLP for your drink and 2000 CLP for a dance. The dance is longer than in many other cafes (a full song), lots of grinding and groping of bare tits, kissing if that's your thing, and at the second or third dance they discreetly start doing a HJ to entice you to a HJ (or sex) in private, the former of which is 20.000 CLP. And that includes all the dances you received. I think it's a pretty good deal.

Cafes usually open at around 10 AM and close at 8 PM, sometimes 9 PM or perhaps. Rarely - even 10 PM. In case of cafes in galerias (shopping centres), it will almost always be 8 PM, as that's when the galleries close. You can try your luck with cafes outside of galleries, but in the early evening the best idea is to go to a „toples", something more of a strip club, but where touching is allowed and you can easily get extras. These close at 9:30 PM or 10:00 PM. Or go to an „escort".

There are two extensive Spanish-language forums where men share experiences and opinions about the cafes and the girls. One is the aforementioned laestokada<DOT CL, the second is the smaller website lacamilla<DOT CL (go to „Foro", choose Zona Cafetera — Cafe con piernas from the drop-down list, which defaults to „Masajes = Publicaciones" Use Google Translate and do your research.

OK, so as a follow-up to the cafe post, let me share the experiences of going to the "toples" bars of Santiago. "Toples" (one s) is the name used by Chileans, so I'll stick with it. Most of the ones I visited belong to one chain, with the keyword in the name "Paraiso" (not to be confused with "Paradiso") . If you hear a man on the street offering you "paraiso" in a hushed voice with a card in hand, he's inviting you to one of these clubs.

First of all, they're not really bars. They don't sell beverages. Or they offer just one type type, non-alcoholic (like Red Bull), and at a steep price. But nobody drinks anyway. Some customers bring their own drinks, like Powerade in a bottle. Second of all, they're not so much topless, it's more of a full-strip venue, where groping the naked stripper is absolutely normal. Tits, pussy, just don't insert your finger. And try to read what the stripper is okay with, for best effect.

Even more surprising perhaps, is that these are DAY venues, noon until 9:30 PM or 10 PM. Entrance is 4000 CLP, in some 3000 CLP. On two weekdays that I checked (Friday, Monday) there were quite a few men already around 1 PM-3 PM. Everyone's dressed in street clothes, I'd say most are underdressed. Many have backpacks. But they look very average in the positive sense. There's everything from elderly gentlemen, to very horny 20-year olds. It's a mix.

The bars don't have dedicated strippers as such. For all of them the stripping is like a side job, or a side obligation. Most of the time they stand or sit in the main area, offering "extras", and they strip in rotation, with long breaks. I'd say there's a show / strip 1/3 or 1/4 of the time, and only if there are enough customers. But sex is the end game for all the girls. The strip is just to entice you to take a "private session" ("privado") or at least a "private dance" (baile / bailecito privado). The private dance (5000 CLP) is done standing up, in a corridor leading to the girls' changing room, behind a curtain. This, in fact, is just a sample of what will be offered in the proper private session, allowing you to gauge if you really want to go all the way. The private session costs between 20 000 CLP and 50 000 CLP, usually you'll get quoted two options: 25 000 CLP or 40 000 CLP, and you substract the cost of the private dance from that, if you took it.

I always took the 25 000 CLP option, as the more expensive ones were just not convincing. The 50 k CLP offer I once got included anal, and it was in some bigger bathroom or some "better" storage room. Who cares. In the end 25 000 CLP for 15 minutes max is the going rate, but YMMV, it's not unusual to get quoted more.

So where are the toples bars / clubs? Most are concentrated in the northern part of the center of Santiago, especially around Bandera street:

1/ Catedral (Paraiso Catedral) - on the corner of Catedral and Bandera (around -33.43731788213332, -70.65245046296722). It's on the lowest level of the "Catedral" Shopping Galleria. After entering from either street, just keep climbing down.

Own experience. In my opinion, this one is the best. There were always a large number of girls, customers, and shows, whenever I came in. And there was quite a lot to choose from.

2/ FashionGirls. Bandera 642, between Rosas and Santo Domingo (around -33.435955266712774, -70.65316243001527), in the basement of the galleria, just keep going down.

Own experience. Went there twice, it's OK, similar size to Catedral, but not even close in number and quality of girls, and the number of shows.

3/ Morande (Paraiso Morande) - Morande 783 (around -33.43456107003983, -70.65435027214157) - it was kind of OK, a bit smaller than the previous clubs, but not much happening.

4/ Bandera (Paraso Bandera) - Bandera 862 (around -33.4335757, -70.6533144) - easily the worst of the four; I came in around 2-3 PM, all the women were older and most ugly, max 6/10. No shows when I was there, the common area and show area is a few times smaller, there seems to be an upstairs for private sessions. Left me totally unimpressed.

For a more complete list of toples see: laestokada (DOT) CL. BARRIO ROJO. Santiago Night & Day Clubs. Directorio De Topless. Direcciones why horario. Especially the places with underlined names. Just please be aware, some of the lesser-known strip bars, especially the ones operating at night, are both highly overpriced and, according to quite a few posters in the forum, drug their customers by adding stuff to their drinks to entice them to spend more. Be warned and do diligent research. Google Translate is your friend, again.

Now what was my tactic in these bars? I liked the shows and the groping, so I'd gently send off all the girls offering me sessions immediately after entering. If they came to chat, do some preliminary grinding and just sit with me, it's totally fine, I'd enjoy all these free activities. I loved the somewhat amateurish shows. After an hour or two of observing and some chatting (and some groping), I could get a picture of who's good-looking AND friendly to me, and I would be more willing to go to a private dance and session. If the private dance was so-so, and the girl turned indifferent, I'd skip the main course.

The bathroom sex conditions are not much better than in cafes con pierna (bad), but at least you have more time to check the girls out and have some fun. One girl seemed to really liked me, trying very hard to please me (probably thinking of playing the long game? I'd invite her for a longer "date" outside the club, if I weren't leaving town so quickly. I have seen other customers taking girls back home at closing time too.

I made a brief stopover in Santiago. Thanks to all the great posters, especially LocalExplorer, for their beautiful reports and kind sharing of their knowledge and wisdom. Here are my very rushed notes.

* General notes.

- Flying into Chile: an eager airline gate agent asked if I had a return ticket. Which I, of course, did not have, so I pretended to be looking for it on my phone and bought a refundable ticket on the spot. After showing it to her, she did some puzzled button pushing but was eventually satisfied and let me board. No one else cared about my return ticket, including the Chilean immigration agent. So I refunded the ticket as soon as I got into the city. Beware and be prepared.

- Crossing the border: the immigration agent asked more questions than usual, including about what other countries I have been to recently. But after a few questions he let me through.

- Getting into the city: Uber works well, and there's strong wifi inside and outside the airport, strong enough to cover the uber pickup area. Cost me about $20 to go downtown.

- Getting around: this time I decided to stay in the stinking downtown, within a few blocks of all the hot spots mentioned in the other reviews. So I just walked. Airport is about 20 minuntes ride from downtown.

- Money: most ATMs would not work for my US cards! Only Banco Estado eventually parted with a stack of pesos. There's a flat 5500 peso withdrawal fee, so it may be advisable to take out as much as you can in one transaction when (if) you find an ATM that would be amenable to your advances.

- Connectivity: local sim cards are cheap (I think 1500 pesos) and have decent data speed.

* Hobby notes.

I decided to quickly sample the 3 types of places mentioned: "topless" bars, "cafes", and massage places from the forum.

I don't speak any Spanish, which made things complicated in some ways. But then I have simple needs (basic BBBJ+CFS) so I am easily pleased.

First I went to Galeria del Punky (GP) San Pablo 1145 -- there are several "cafes" with girls looking out of them, most of them are just regular girls, not ugly, not particularly beautiful. I walked and ended up in the last "cafe" where a girl took my hand, pulled me in, locked the door behind us, and asked if I wanted a drink. I didn't, so I said so, she asked what did I want. After a bit of soul-searching I asked her how much, she said 30 for everything, I said how about oral, she said 20, then I asked about oral natural, she said 25, and I said okay. So the clothes went off (right there in the "cafe", on one of the chairs) and she went at it. In the near end she wanted another 5 for CIM, so I decided to splash some money around. Heh heh. See what I did there. Overall a perfectly acceptable experience, BBBJ / CIM for 30, not the best I had, was kinda rushed, but not the worst I had either. Paid after the deed was done.

Second I went to Catedral (Paraiso Catedral) - on the corner of Catedral and Bandera (around -33.43731788213332, -70.65245046296722). It's on the lowest level of the "Catedral" Shopping Galleria. After entering from either street, just keep climbing down. It really is quite obvious but the shopping center is not called "catedral", it's called "Caracol Bandera" - it's written in big letters. Then just keep climbing down, and it will be there at the end.

4000 to enter, then there were some guys hanging around and some girls wandering about. Some girls were active, trying to rub against me and pull me somewhere (to which I said no), others were hanging around in small groups discussing Important Girl Things with each other and not paying attention to any of the surroundings. This is where my complete lack of Spanish has hurt me because I had no idea how to try out those rubbing and hugging sessions and how to do those private dances without ending up owing them more than what I had in my pockets. So after a short while when a young soft-skinned fatty wearing glasses (looked like a university student getting some extra money for her books) rubbed against me and tried to pull me somewhere, I asked her about "oral natural" - to which she replied "50 thousand" so I thought why not, as I was getting bored with the place.

She took me to the cell described elsewhere in the forum, it had a very small bench and nothing else. I wonder if the design was inspired by Ryanair, or was it the other way around. She asked for the money up front, I gave her 3 x20 and asked for the change, she tried to smile it away but eventually brough me the 10. Then the fun started. She was quite good at BJ, no rush, with lots of tongue, and appeared to be enjoying it. After some time I wanted to stick it in her, so she took out the rubber, put it on, and (surprise!) took out a butt plug that she's been wearing all this time. But. (surprise!) literally as I stick my unit into one of her holes (it was dark so I wasn't entirely sure which one but it felt like I was in for an unexpected brownie treat) - someone tried to knock the door off its hinges. Apparently that's Chilean for "your time is up". She said the only option to continue would be to pay another 50, and I did not want to do that just on the general principle. There was no grace period, no "half the time for 25", nothing - 50 or gtfo, and the second door knock came as we were discussing these options. So I put on my pants and left. She asked me for a tip, but I generally frown on this practice and here, when I couldn't even finish what we started, that was totally out of the question.

So overall a pretty good BJ, with some DT (she seemed eager to do it but wasn't quite practiced enough) but no ending, for 54. To me, this is not good value proposition. Cafes were much better.

Then I went to a massage place that was also about 2 blocks away (found it on laestokada). To get there, I contacted them on whatsapp, they gave me the prices and location, then once I got there they gave me the office number (it's in an office area inside one of the gallery shopping centers) and I got up there. They had 3 girls that day but only 2 available, both showed up in turn, I picked one named Sofia (if I remember correctly). Price was 35 for half an hour and add another 20 for BBBJ, in the end I cheapskated her down to 50 (35+15). The place looks reasonably nice, the room with a nice massage table, there's a shower, with soap in it and with hot water, they provide a paper towel (literally, looks and feels like a huge paper towel the size of bath towel) so I took the shower, also asked for money up front, then we started. Wonderful BBBJ with some licking of the boys. When she got on top, in reverse CG (beautiful view), I suppose I was still excited from the past encounter and it took about 7 pumps for it all to be over. However, somehow this all added up to a quite enjoyable experience so even though I paid twice to 2 different girls, in the end I felt quite happy and relaxed. And only mildly miffed about having paid 50 for about 6 minutes of action. The 35 includes 30 minutes, so this would probably be the place I would repeat if I ended up in Santiago again.

Finally, I wanted to have another encounter since I only had one day in Santiago. I contacted one of the individual massage girls from laestokada and she promptly stood me up. We agreed to meet at 7:30, I got to where she told me to get at that time, but she stopped responding. So I stuffed my face with a meat sandwich from a nearby restaurant and went to sleep still kinda satisfied from the daily activity. But I got the impression that there are many girls available, I just was unlucky with this particular one.

In summary, to me Santiago appears perfectly manageable. It's not as good or as cheap as the neighboring countries, but the availability is there and the prices are reasonable and for someone with more time on his hands it would be possible to discover the gems that are doubtlessly out there. I would not come here for the hobby alone, but if I had other reasons to be here, I would welcome the opportunity knowing that I could be getting action every day.