Moscow

bbois77:

Thanks for the accolades, even though several other prominent members... Bez, RM, BigBro, 109, RC, MG, Ca_T and KK come to mind immediately, are certainly also members of ISG's "old school". I am certain I left out a few important members, but I really consider us all equals and members of the same team.

I personally consider myself a student of the game even today. There's just so much joy in learning something new every day... :)

ISG is a great resource and I learn a lot from all the other guys reports, or draw inspiration from other guys pictures.

Look forward to reading more reports from all of the other guys... and seeing some pics to add flavor to the action...

One thing we share in common, a love for Moscow and the unpredictable nature of that wild city and it's amazing women...

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I read with awe, and the "correct" way of doing things

its gives us less able guys something

Jackson is the ultimate Master of ISG

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You really should get one thing straight.

There's no such thing as less able!
Only less imaginative.

And yes, there is only one Master,
and that's the father and creator,
El Gaucho de BA Mr. J :)

In busy nights time to time I saw Black girls at CF. Currently a few of them post their ads at [url]www.intimcity.ru[/url] . Has anyone have an experience with black girls in Moscow. It’s always a pleasure to have bitter and white chocolate at a time…

Couple months ago, this guy’s or another black guy’s services were discussed.

I don’t understand why a foreigner needs a black guy as a tourist/night guide in Moscow. Russians usually don’t welcome dark skinned foreigners.



[QUOTE=Russia Fan]I was in Moscow again with a colleague recently and managed to free up a couple of evenings to enjoy the sights and sounds :) Given that time was precious, I called a guy I met some time ago in Moscow to help us get around.

[url]http://www.dreammoscownights.com/[/url]

This guy is great value and good company too. He really covered all the bases. He helped with logistics, organising cheap taxis everywhere. He took us to Chesterfields and a couple of strip clubs (Mister XXX, Safari Lodge). He even arranged for us to be joined by a couple of super girls for dinner one evening (both 7-8), both very friendly and speaking some English (altogether great evening, a real girlfriend experience – there was no ‘deal’ but I did give $150 to my ‘date’ in the morning + some taxi money which seemed to do the trick). Our guide was also particularly good at chatting up girls in bars (or anywhere for that matter, even shopping areas!) that we had spotted and then making the intros (useful if you are a bit shy like me, particularly in places like Chesterfields where there are often quite a few nice non-working girls). Picked up quite a few telephone numbers that way for next time….

Altogether a highly recommended approach, especially if time is tight and you do not know your way around too well.[/QUOTE]

Big Bro:

It's the same black guy, an African (Cameroon?) that has lived in Moscow for many years. I personally cannot say if his services are useful as I haven't met him.

IMHO if all he does is bring you to CF, NF or a couple of strip clubs, those are things a real monger should be able to manage on his own. If his services involve other things, like arranging for women, a tochka tour or getting you into the elite "members only" clubs, then his services might be quite useful to some guys.

As for him being black, it's true that black guys do encounter difficulties in a lot of areas, but if he's well-established and well-known he personally probably won't have troubles anywhere and may even be, as the poster suggested, quite a ladies man. There are a few prominent black celebrities in Russia (not to mention the CSKA basketball team) and some black guys do really well with the ladies... there is a market for black guys in any country. Certain girls just dig dark meat, that's a fact of life.

I personally think his services can't be interesting for experienced mongers, but if some mongers need someone to hold their hand while they explore the city, well then... kind of seems like it goes against the spirit and adventure of mongering to me... but that's just me. I still think international mongering is the Last Great Frontier... and something done with a spirit of adventure and panache.

As for black girls at CF, I've seen them too but never had the opportunity to try them, even though I was tempted. I remember a petite and wild one (with a nice round zhopa) that looked good to me. A friend and fellow ISG monger did try 2 black girls together once and said it was great... so maybe it's worth a shot.

I promised to "never" go back to CF though... HAHA... see if I can resist next week... :)

Doctor Shank,

I have always been thinking about going to Moscow or St. Petersburg fro some action, but your statement make me wonder if I should go at all. I am Spnaish(Cuban) but have a dark complexion. Any comments or suggestions.

My suggestion?

Just go for it. Try the "latin clubs" first and then expand into other areas.

You'll find out once you are there if it's the right place for you.

Some people with dark complexions do very well, others do quite poorly.

Really, nobody has a crystal ball to tell you how it's going to be.

[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]IMHO if all he does is bring you to CF, NF or a couple of strip clubs, those are things a real monger should be able to manage on his own. If his services involve other things, like arranging for women, a tochka tour or getting you into the elite "members only" clubs, then his services might be quite useful to some guys.

I personally think his services can't be interesting for experienced mongers, but if some mongers need someone to hold their hand while they explore the city, well then... kind of seems like it goes against the spirit and adventure of mongering to me... but that's just me. I still think international mongering is the Last Great Frontier... and something done with a spirit of adventure and panache.[/QUOTE]Dr. S,

I absolutely agree that the guide approach is probably not appropriate for any serious adventurer and/or connossieur pushing back the frontiers but I think it can make sense for ‘entry level’ or ‘junior’ mongerers. We didn’t try to get into any Elitny clubs or go to a tochka so can’t comment on his repertoire here.

Also, in the name of monger democracy :), I think this should be a forum where both ‘junior’ and ‘master’ mongers alike can seek advice.

[QUOTE=Big Bro]Couple months ago, this guy’s or another black guy’s services were discussed.

I don’t understand why a foreigner needs a black guy as a tourist/night guide in Moscow. Russians usually don’t welcome dark skinned foreigners.[/QUOTE]
Big Bro,

as for his skin colour, I am aware that in Russia that is potentially an issue in the wrong place at the wrong time, but we had no issues and I can still confirm that his skills and help were very useful for us ‘juniors’.

[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]My suggestion?

Just go for it. Try the "latin clubs" first and then expand into other areas.

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I think Skank is right. We have many latino clubs and in some clubs latino parties are made once or twice a week (you can find their adverticement in newspapers like "exzile"). There go girls who are especially fond of latino lovers ;). Most of them will not even charge you (students, young career-builders and so on). If you can dance - it's 100% sucess in such kind of places. If you decide to change the atmosphere, you shouldn't worry about your origin, too. Russians are not prejudiced against Spaniards or whoever.

El Cubanito,

I have to echo Doc’s words and say just go for it. Whilst I am far from Spanish (or Latin American) I spent most of the 1990s mongering in South America and, although I love Slavic girls, I would gladly trade my current life of travelling in the second world for my previous life travelling to Colombia, Venezuela, Brazil, Argentina, Costa Rica, Mexico, etc.

A few years ago, on one of too many visits to the Black Hole (CF) I spent the whole night only speaking Spanish and only drinking Tequila (estamos muy conocido:)). It was highly entertaining as the girls desperately ran around all their friends trying to find someone who could speak Spanish and translate for them. I ended up with quite a little party going on (Doc knows how this works in CF) with several girls vying for the attentions of the “Spaniard”. The whole vibe that night and the attention I got from the ladies far exceeded any night when I have simply been an English speaking foreigner. And it proved to me that the Moscow ladies do like Spanish speakers – I guess Latin men are regarded as a bit more exotic than the usual bloated Brits or dumb Americans that frequent CF (apologies to thin Brits and Doc and other articulate Americans).

I also tried speaking Spanish in Manezh Mall, just approaching girls out shopping. This worked well. I don’t speak Russian and, as none of the girls I approached could speak Spanish, they asked me if I could speak English. Job done.

In short, if pretending to be Hispanic worked for me (10 pounds over weight, the wrong side of 40 and very little hair), you should have a great time being the real deal .

Hasta la Victoria, siempre,

Ricardo Cabron

Ok, I will proceed with my plans. I am going to Russia around February/March time frame. Do you guys recommend Moscow or St. Petersburg for a first timer to Russia. I have gone to other country on Monger adventures.

Please let me know.

El Cubanito

For the young African ladies that make it all the way from a
tropical third world to the icy motherland metropolis, they're
likely to either be their homeland's brightest or at least have
above average talent, so they certainly should be getting nailed
by some horn-dog mongers.

El Cubanito,

I'll be in Moscow and St Petersburg for a week in February, probably 12-18th. Happy to share a beer with you if your around at that time, and anyone else for that matter.

Hasta la victoria, siempre

RC

Bez:

Personally the only Black Russians I really care about are the vodka-kahlua kind... yum yum! :)

El Cubanito:

Moscow vs. St.Petersburg is the second most important question in Russia after "will I get into the newest elite club or get faced?"

Both cities have their charms and will suit you fine.

I prefer Moscow, but many prefer St.Petersburg with good reason.

My take for Feb-March:

Moscow is wilder, more Russian, much bigger, more to do in terms of clubs, more money-oriented, faster, considerably more expensive, action 7 days a week, more difficult to maneuver in.

St.Petersburg is prettier, more European, easier to navigate, limited clubs but still plenty, cheaper, more relaxed, colder, slow in the early week.

Your chances of scoring are probably the same in either place, although I know of many more latino clubs or "latino nights" in Moscow. Not so familiar with Pitr. I wouldn't agree with Helena that going to a latin place is a 100% freebie scoring option (such places don't exist), but it will be a place that the odds will definitely be in your favor especially if you can dance like a sterotypical latino should, just like black guys going to hip hop clubs.

If you decide on p4p, St.Pete is cheaper (especially the salons) but Moscow has more options.

If you go to either city, bring more money than you think you'll need.

On average, costs break down like this for decent quality of life:

Pitr:
Apt: 80 €/ Hotel 150 €
Daily costs without P4P sex: 80 €
2 hours P4P: 100 €

Moscow:
Apt: 120 €/ Hotel 220 €
Daily costs witout P4P sex: 100 €
2 hours P4P: 150 €

There are cheaper options to the above prices, as well as more expensive, but it should serve as a general guideline.

I was wondering is it possible to find SW's or other girls that will give a cheap bj or a quick fuck like in Amsterdam or TJ....??