Berlin

[QUOTE=Tintin1;3058076]A few months back there was a decent post by one of the senior guys who stopped at 2 or 3 brothels for the line up en route to Artemis (the fact he got to Artemis, indicates that the line ups didn't serve his particular tastes). But he mentions the set up. You can map his choices, but I seem to remember they were in the West of the city. These sorts of questions and even answers are pretty tough given we don't know if you like Fat girls, tall skinny, African, Ro, etc. And obviously, you could stop in at 3, and the girl of your dreams happens to be in a room. Anyway, look forward to your report.[/QUOTE]Thanks. From where I came from, there are lots of Asian girls, so I am mainly shooting for white girls in Berlin. Face is most important for me, as long as they are not fat or 40+ years old. I just did more reading and will try Aston first. If the lineup there is not interesting, I will probably walk to King George and see lineup there, LOL. Will see.

[QUOTE=Fun2016;3058080]Thanks. From where I came from, there are lots of Asian girls, so I am mainly shooting for white girls in Berlin. Face is most important for me, as long as they are not fat or 40+ years old. I just did more reading and will try Aston first. If the lineup there is not interesting, I will probably walk to King George and see lineup there, LOL. Will see.[/QUOTE]King George awful. See reviews last week.

Aston. Cheap and dirty but depends on taste / chemistry.
Van Kampen -weird vibe.

By far, some better choices in West:

Ginas Tango Rosa -Steglitz -best all around value and choices.
Polnische Girls: [URL]sb98.info[/URL] close to van Kampen.
Royal Girls (expensive but good).
Herrenhaus.
Prestige-Halensee not far from Artemis.
Sensual Massage - lots of upgrade

Most have links here: [URL]https://www.berlinintim.de/bordelle-berlin.html[/URL]

Do home work and call ahead just to be sure girl you may like is there on hour/day. You may or may not reserve -Ninja always want to see and talk first. Website schedules not reliable.
Report back of your missions.

[QUOTE=NookyNinja;3058196]King George awful. See reviews last week.

Aston. Cheap and dirty but depends on taste / chemistry.
Van Kampen -weird vibe.

By far, some better choices in West:

Ginas Tango Rosa -Steglitz -best all around value and choices.
Polnische Girls: [URL]sb98.info[/URL] close to van Kampen.
Royal Girls (expensive but good).
Herrenhaus.
Prestige-Halensee not far from Artemis.
Sensual Massage - lots of upgrade

Most have links here: [URL]https://www.berlinintim.de/bordelle-berlin.html[/URL]

Do home work and call ahead just to be sure girl you may like is there on hour/day. You may or may not reserve -Ninja always want to see and talk first. Website schedules not reliable.
Report back of your missions.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I will look into these options you recommended. I went to Aston yesterday. 4 girls were available, and 2 were doable, so I picked one Romanian. Probably mid 20's, pretty face, nice skin, not so good body shape, and so so service, but she got the job done (I selected 100 euros for 45 minutes). My first report haha.

[QUOTE=NookyNinja;3058196]King George awful. See reviews last week.

Sensual Massage - lots of upgrade

Most have links here: [URL]https://www.berlinintim.de/bordelle-berlin.html[/URL]

Do home work and call ahead just to be sure girl you may like is there on hour/day. You may or may not reserve -Ninja always want to see and talk first. Website schedules not reliable.
Report back of your missions.[/QUOTE]Which Massage place are you mentioning has lots of upgrades or is this just the category.

I find Maria's massage has upgrades and at least they have info on each lady if she offers GV. Also noticed they now have one of the first Asian ladies on their website. They do have a wide range of nationalities. Very few of the ladies upgrade to natural french. By the way.

[QUOTE=Fun2016;3058205]Thanks. I will look into these options you recommended. I went to Aston yesterday. 4 girls were available, and 2 were doable, so I picked one Romanian. Probably mid 20's, pretty face, nice skin, not so good body shape, and so so service, but she got the job done (I selected 100 euros for 45 minutes). My first report haha.[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4012-Berlin-Aller45-Aston-Stella&p=3058694&viewfull=1#post3058694[/URL]

Has anyone ever visited them. It's on my bucket list for some reason. I mean "I KNOW" my reason, but with all the places in Berlin, and how often I visit, I'm just surprised I never pull the trigger.

Any insights into the place? Any recommendations for any of the tantric masterettes.

[QUOTE=Tintin1;3058955]Has anyone ever visited them. [/QUOTE]Yes -forget who. Massage ok, but really place is much "spin". Ambiance nice, etc. But have as good massage for less at many. Ambiance at Paris or NGel almost the same.

Kashima 10 yrs ago was better-think it was sold to new management.

All really hit or miss. Ameliya on Bliss Str current favorite, esp Dana -wow on all levels.

Post below: "Sensual Massage" is name of place. Ambiance not strong point; flexibility. Primus Relax same.

I've been to Berlin a few times in the last 5-10 years and have tried pretty much everything the city has to offer for consenting adult activities. I even go back to the days pre-COVID of Airport Girls. I admit I never went to Artemis because I had previously been to numerous other FKKs and Partytreffs in Germany and wanted to try things that were uniquely "Berlin". To say I was disappointed is an understatement. As noted earlier, I tried Airport Girls and King George. There was also one other similar establishment open in those days. For the most part, these were flat-rate Partytreff-like places. Perhaps things changed after the 2017 condom law? I know it killed the PT industry in other cities. I went out to check out the Kurfrstendamm stroll. It was definitely high-risk in terms of trannies and probable STIs. I decided to escape inside the porno theater and one of the girls followed me inside. I think I finally lost her when I went upstairs to the sex shop. There was also a nightly gangbang operation (Ani Porsche?) where I went one night. The fee was reasonable, but the other people were way out of shape 50-somethings. We all did our thing in the same room on the same mattress. So, perhaps Artemis and agency or indi girls are actually the only shows in town?

[QUOTE=Max#01;3059106]I've been to Berlin a few times in the last 5-10 years and have tried pretty much everything the city has to offer for consenting adult activities. ...So, perhaps Artemis and agency or indi girls are actually the only shows in town?[/QUOTE]And the 50 small apartment bordellos?

[QUOTE=Max#01;3059106]I've been to Berlin a few times in the last 5-10 years and have tried pretty much everything the city has to offer for consenting adult activities. I even go back to the days pre-COVID of Airport Girls. I admit I never went to Artemis because I had previously been to numerous other FKKs and Partytreffs in Germany and wanted to try things that were uniquely "Berlin". To say I was disappointed is an understatement. As noted earlier, I tried Airport Girls and King George. There was also one other similar establishment open in those days. For the most part, these were flat-rate Partytreff-like places. Perhaps things changed after the 2017 condom law? I know it killed the PT industry in other cities. I went out to check out the Kurfrstendamm stroll. It was definitely high-risk in terms of trannies and probable STIs. I decided to escape inside the porno theater and one of the girls followed me inside. I think I finally lost her when I went upstairs to the sex shop. There was also a nightly gangbang operation (Ani Porsche?) where I went one night. The fee was reasonable, but the other people were way out of shape 50-somethings. We all did our thing in the same room on the same mattress. So, perhaps Artemis and agency or indi girls are actually the only shows in town?[/QUOTE]I was in Berlin for a few days last October, and I too found the scene to be extremely disappointing. It's the kind of place where you really need the time to establish your marks and find the right approach that works for you. Definitely no good for a tourist type of monger who doesn't have a lot of time to work the system. I ended up right back at Artemis, which used to be one of my favorite FKKs in Germany. Artemis is still one of the best FKK clubs in Germany. But, even it wasn't as good as it used to be pre-COVID in terms of the talent (and it's gotten to be one of the priciest clubs too with a high admission fee). The same can be said about the entire FKK industry throughout Germany. It's simply not as good a deal all around. I keep hope alive that time and change will bring about better outcomes.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3059208]I was in Berlin for a few days last October, and I too found the scene to be extremely disappointing. It's the kind of place where you really need the time to establish your marks and find the right approach that works for you. Definitely no good for a tourist type of monger who doesn't have a lot of time to work the system. I ended up right back at Artemis, which used to be one of my favorite FKKs in Germany. Artemis is still one of the best FKK clubs in Germany. But, even it wasn't as good as it used to be pre-COVID in terms of the talent (and it's gotten to be one of the priciest clubs too with a high admission fee). The same can be said about the entire FKK industry throughout Germany. It's simply not as good a deal all around. I keep hope alive that time and change will bring about better outcomes.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NookyNinja;3059195]And the 50 small apartment bordellos?[/QUOTE]

Berlin is huge, there is something for everyone. But I second Cane's comment about research, at least some research. There was a post last year when a senior member who stopped at the two well known bordellos near Artemis. He found the line up wanting in both quantity and looks and continued on to Artemis. On the other hand, if one of the girls had been his type, the entire tone of the review would have been overwhelmingly positive!
I've been going to Maria's massage for a few years, most times with exceptional results, a few "near misses" but I almost never leave it to line up but chose in advance. As I leave I ask if there are any girls availabe to PRE screen for next visit. Recently thanks to Nooky's posts, in this forum, I've picked up a few more places, a few names. It's not hard work, but it requires you to stay with this planning. If you are going once and then not for another year or two, Artemis is still best, and Sharks maybe in Frankfurt is safer but looking back on even my bad visits to cities, I've gotten enough Pussy and enough stories that it's almost always worth it!

[QUOTE=Tintin1;3059269]Berlin is huge, there is something for everyone. But I second Cane's comment about research, at least some research. There was a post last year when a senior member who stopped at the two well known bordellos near Artemis. He found the line up wanting in both quantity and looks and continued on to Artemis. On the other hand, if one of the girls had been his type, the entire tone of the review would have been overwhelmingly positive!
I've been going to Maria's massage for a few years, most times with exceptional results, a few "near misses" but I almost never leave it to line up but chose in advance. As I leave I ask if there are any girls availabe to PRE screen for next visit. Recently thanks to Nooky's posts, in this forum, I've picked up a few more places, a few names. It's not hard work, but it requires you to stay with this planning. If you are going once and then not for another year or two, Artemis is still best, and Sharks maybe in Frankfurt is safer but looking back on even my bad visits to cities, I've gotten enough Pussy and enough stories that it's almost always worth it![/QUOTE]I should state that my lens through which I view Belin is based on my experiences in the USA. Airport Girls, even on a bad day, is better than most anything else I can do here at home. Sharks or Artemis, or even the small FKKs like Dietzenbach, are paradise. As we have noted, Berlin is different, and, when compared to the rest that Germany has to offer, not in a good way.

[QUOTE=Max#01;3059374]Berlin is different, and, when compared to the rest that Germany has to offer, not in a good way.[/QUOTE]

This all very subjective. No question Covid knocked things for a loop-but everywhere. Lot of girls left, inflation (everywhere) put up prices. Street scene, S&M, AO etc. not Ninja taste so cannot comment (though there is plenty of it if you search).

Greater Frankfurt / Darmstadt with 6 FKKs relatively near by has supply-quality subjective. But Berlin has maybe 50 private apartment bordellos, and lots of indies, much better value, Berlin much cheaper and more interesting city, Artemis bigger than most FRA FKKS. If you want sex 5+ times per day, FKK has advantage.

But, the factory throughput / mass tourist thing /being number 10 on the day/ often weird drug / gang vibes in FKK put Ninja off. Berlin has advantages: hundreds of local girls, UA or RO or RU girls who seem to enjoy just few good sessions (and price still better than Hamburg or Muenchen or Duesseldorf; excellent public transport, bicycles, Bolt cars everywhere. You just need little thinking and planning; CoMaps on phone, BVG website to plan public transport (in English), and a few confirmation phone calls. Pretty easy. Lots of info in this thread.

And if this puts off some tourists, more for rest of us. Like The Dude, we abide.

[QUOTE=NookyNinja;3059693]This all very subjective. No question Covid knocked things for a loop-but everywhere. Lot of girls left, inflation (everywhere) put up prices. Street scene, S&M, AO etc. not Ninja taste so cannot comment (though there is plenty of it if you search).

Greater Frankfurt / Darmstadt with 6 FKKs relatively near by has supply-quality subjective. But Berlin has maybe 50 private apartment bordellos, and lots of indies, much better value, Berlin much cheaper and more interesting city, Artemis bigger than most FRA FKKS. If you want sex 5+ times per day, FKK has advantage.

[/QUOTE]If I was going to just sit in FKKs then Frankfurt and NRW. If I was looking to fill my days with some variety then I'm all in for Berlin and Vienna. I do find Sharks best value, Vienna second (aside from GT) but nothing tops the variety and the pure lust if you can find the special Berlin German lady. Wirklich geil!

Sounds like Berlin never recovered after COVID. The FKK's like Oase have gone way up in price and still full of grasping Romanian sharks.

I will miss Van Kampen in Wilmersdorf, an old fashioned but stylish Bordello and parties, such as Annies next to Gneisenaustraße you-Bahn. So many good times. A very pretty and smart Hamburg girl got to know me, we lunched at KaDeWe and had some wild orgies, roaming around naked with sucking and fucking everywhere, having an Underberg or coffee, putting on Kraftwek or New Order, paradise. In summer we made it in the Tiergarten, she even got into a Nazi uniform, naturally revealing shirt, with fishnets and heels, legs high in the air, telling me to fuck with my American pepperoni as men sat around slack jawed watching this unfold in the center of Berlin.

Berlin will always be special.