Berlin

[QUOTE=Bobo.fr;3075059]Did you try Royal in Berlin?[/QUOTE]I was there about a month ago. And once before last year. Last year I did three visits, two of which I found a decent looking girl in the line up. One was a pro performer, the other had a pretty stale attitude and zero extras. CBJ and Sex, that's it. One visit last year was a dud, with no-one I liked in the line up so just left.

On my visit last month, I was in and out in 10 minutes again. Poor line-up and did not return. It takes me 30 minutes to get there and 30 minutes to get back on the train from my place in Potsdam Platz. Spending an hour round trip to end up spending 15 minutes there to turn down the offering of 5 or so women made me reluctant to repeat the effort.

If you do go, I have some tips. Once you pick a girl you have to be very specific at the time of payment exactly what you want to do because practically anything beyond a CBJ and Sex will attract a 20 EUR surcharge. Yes it can get pricey, but I do like the fact that everything has a clear price and that they encourage you be clear on it up front. One more tip. They work on what I call 'commute-business hours' which means their prime times are when people are between office hours. Meaning. Weekday lunch breaks are their prime time. And weekday home commute (4 pm-5 pm). They are closed past 8 pm so if you show up at 6 pm you are with the late crowd. And very slim line-ups on weekends.

[QUOTE=JizzyB;3074784]Indeed, it does. Berlin is almost dead. Prague has lot to offer at cheaper prices. Weekend Getaway for Mongering.[/QUOTE]Don't be ridiculous, Berlin is far from dead, even if quality isn't as good as before COVID.

Thanks for the tip regarding Royal, although concerned about cost. I am generally in the range of 200 E / hour. On their website the room-only cost goes for various durations and prices (70 E /30,80 E /40, and 100 E /60 min) so should I assume the basic girl rate doubles the total visit cost (70 +70/30 min, 80+80/40 min, 100 E+100 E /60 min)? If I go for the 160 E /40 min then add 2 extras (DATY+ rimming), I am already at the 200 E /40 min. The girls on the website look very attractive. I appreciate the warnings from the earlier poster.

Maybe it's not dead for you. I just refuse to pay premium prices for mediocre experiences when Poland and Prague offer way better value.

[QUOTE=BaltiX;3075243]Don't be ridiculous, Berlin is far from dead, even if quality isn't as good as before COVID.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ak233;3075854]... so should I assume the basic girl rate doubles the total visit cost (70 +70/30 min, 80+80/40 min, 100 E+100 E /60 min)? [/QUOTE]At least, in the past, that's the rule.

[QUOTE=Ak233;3075854]... add 2 extras (DATY+ rimming), ....[/QUOTE]In general, no extras for DATY, at least with an 1 hour meeting.

However, now, the spirit of these sex workers may change (in the bad way) so probably you should ask them during the parade for confirmation.

You can find "Salon Prestige", close to Adenauer place, with lower prices (I don't know if it still belongs to "Liberty"'s boss that is closed now). Notice that porn actress July Sun who worked at "Royal" works now at "Salon Prestige".

There's also "Gina Tango Rosa" where the workers had their own prices higher than the rule mentionned above.

You may have a look at this thread that unfortunately is not fed by current posts: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/forumdisplay.php?775-Germany-Brothels[/URL].

[QUOTE=FakeIt;3075096]I was there about a month ago. And once before last year. Last year I did three visits, two of which I found a decent looking girl in the line up. One was a pro performer, the other had a pretty stale attitude and zero extras. CBJ and Sex, that's it. One visit last year was a dud, with no-one I liked in the line up so just left.

On my visit last month, I was in and out in 10 minutes again. Poor line-up and did not return. It takes me 30 minutes to get there and 30 minutes to get back on the train from my place in Potsdam Platz. Spending an hour round trip to end up spending 15 minutes there to turn down the offering of 5 or so women made me reluctant to repeat the effort.

If you do go, I have some tips. Once you pick a girl you have to be very specific at the time of payment exactly what you want to do because practically anything beyond a CBJ and Sex will attract a 20 EUR surcharge. Yes it can get pricey, but I do like the fact that everything has a clear price and that they encourage you be clear on it up front. One more tip. They work on what I call 'commute-business hours' which means their prime times are when people are between office hours. Meaning. Weekday lunch breaks are their prime time. And weekday home commute (4 pm-5 pm). They are closed past 8 pm so if you show up at 6 pm you are with the late crowd. And very slim line-ups on weekends.[/QUOTE]Did you ask for extras for those girls you saw last year?

[QUOTE=BaltiX;3076772]Did you ask for extras for those girls you saw last year?[/QUOTE]Sure did. Only one said 'no extras'. I went for a quickie with her anyway since I had 30 minutes of sunk cost getting myself over to them in the first place.

With the others I wanted BBJ, CIM to which they quoted 20 E for each extra. With those who agreed to extras I take an hour.

I wasn't interested in DFK or Datty although I am confident that would be have been another 20 each as well.

Any recent updates on this bordello? The website [URL]https://herrenhaus-berlin.de/[/URL] shows a number of attractive women. Any experiences on prices and service? Some of the other message boards are generally OK with this place. Of note, they also offer BDSM as the Garden Eden Studio. Many of the women can be seen on both sites. I imagine the pricing at Garden Eden [URL]https://dominastudio-berlin.com/[/URL] is a bit higher. Looking through some of the profiles on Garden Eden studio a couple of the women ask for 150/30 and 250/hr.

[QUOTE=Ak233;3078033]Any recent updates on this bordello? The website [URL]https://herrenhaus-berlin.de/[/URL] shows a number of attractive women. Any experiences on prices and service?[/QUOTE]Place nice enough but reality very mixed. Depends on girl-prices vary from reasonable to ridiculous. Management vibe is not friendly (the main number not S&M. Ha ha), rarely know in advance who will be there. You must call each day to be sure. Contrast with Ginas Tango Rosa in Steglitz where all always in good mood, and 50-100 less.

Yes, agree. Prices quoted for the girls I inquired about were exorbitant.

[QUOTE=NookyNinja;3078085]Place nice enough but reality very mixed. Depends on girl-prices vary from reasonable to ridiculous. Management vibe is not friendly (the main number not S&M. Ha ha), rarely know in advance who will be there. You must call each day to be sure. Contrast with Ginas Tango Rosa in Steglitz where all always in good mood, and 50-100 less.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JizzyB;3074784]Indeed, it does. Berlin is almost dead. Prague has lot to offer at cheaper prices. Weekend Getaway for Mongering.[/QUOTE]Isn't there a Eros centre, (like in Frankfurt) there? You know, a Laufhaus type Bordella? Or if not, anywhere a bit like it?

Berlin almost dead? It has the most reports here out of any German city. Really? I heard Prague had died right off or was very expensive now. I mention this because I have to stop off in Europe on the way to somewhere else soon. Trying to sort out some hobbying on the way. I worry about having poor service from these ones arranged through websites. Bit of a lottery it would seem to me. Brussels could be an option instead, if Berlin really has died?

[QUOTE=Fosi76;3080911]Isn't there a Eros centre [/QUOTE]No.

[QUOTE]Berlin almost dead? It has the most reports here out of any German city. [/QUOTE]It has Artemis with 100+ girls. Maybe 50+ private apartment bordellos. 25+ Massage salons. 300+ indies. Very active local threads on "Lusthaus".

See this: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4033-The-Berlin-Sex-Scene.-A-Beginner-s-Guide[/URL].

Look also "BerlinIntim", for intro portal, with catagories, "Omello". Must do research. But 24/7/365 no problem here. If someone think Berlin is dead, they probably dead.

What are some of the most unique mongering experience that you have had / would recommend having in Europe.

I have mongered world over, and at this point a bit bored of the incall / outcall / spa / apartment scene.

For inspiration, some of my most unique / memorable experiences have been -.

1. Clube Vive in Madrid. You are in what is a very normal club looking place with lots of women and men. Hard to tell which woman is working vs. There for a drink. You approach the one you like, strike a deal and take them downstairs where they have designated rooms for booking.

2. FKK clubs in Germany as you all know.

3. A weird swinging party in prague, where I went as a single. Couldn't really see any actual swinging women. But as an intro / welcome one of the house ladies (I suppose) jerked off everyone who entered. She wasnt even attractive, just was part of the welcome. Didn't get laid that night, but was a unique experience nonetheless.

4. Outside Europe. Nightclubs in Wanchai, Hong Kong: Similar to Vive, but no rooms downstairs. Just buy a drink for the girl and she may make out / put her hands in your pants to jerk you off.

5. Outside Europe. Saunas in Lima: You are in a Sauna, where random girls are wandering (along with dozens of naked guys). You like one, you talk to them and go to upstairs room in that sauna.

6. (Not sexual but worth a honorary mention)) - Mixed gender fully naked baths in Baden Baden.

7. Cuddling experiences at various places, where sometimes it leads to more.

Would love to hear from folks here on what else have they experienced. Or where can I find places like Vive (would say the most exciting concept for me as the fun is in the chase), outside Madrid?

Thanks in advance for your responses.

[QUOTE=AlgernonM;3087268]What are some of the most unique mongering experience that you have had / would recommend having in Europe.

I have mongered world over, and at this point a bit bored of the incall / outcall / spa / apartment scene.

For inspiration, some of my most unique / memorable experiences have been -.

1. Clube Vive in Madrid. You are in what is a very normal club looking place with lots of women and men. Hard to tell which woman is working vs. There for a drink. You approach the one you like, strike a deal and take them downstairs where they have designated rooms for booking.

2. FKK clubs in Germany as you all know.

3. A weird swinging party in prague, where I went as a single. Couldn't really see any actual swinging women. But as an intro / welcome one of the house ladies (I suppose) jerked off everyone who entered. She wasnt even attractive, just was part of the welcome. Didn't get laid that night, but was a unique experience nonetheless.

4. Outside Europe. Nightclubs in Wanchai, Hong Kong: Similar to Vive, but no rooms downstairs. Just buy a drink for the girl and she may make out / put her hands in your pants to jerk you off.

5. Outside Europe. Saunas in Lima: You are in a Sauna, where random girls are wandering (along with dozens of naked guys). You like one, you talk to them and go to upstairs room in that sauna.

6. (Not sexual but worth a honorary mention)) - Mixed gender fully naked baths in Baden Baden.

7. Cuddling experiences at various places, where sometimes it leads to more.

Would love to hear from folks here on what else have they experienced. Or where can I find places like Vive (would say the most exciting concept for me as the fun is in the chase), outside Madrid?

Thanks in advance for your responses.[/QUOTE]Since you have posted on the Berlin thread I need to mention a couple of things unique to this city.

First. Fetish studios. Top notch stuff. Even as a compete newb who is not into BDSM you will find something interesting here. Browse the websites. Choose a girl you find attractive. Choose scenario (or 'scene' as they like to call it) that might interest you. Go and act it out. Very creative stuff mixed with the erotic. A slippery slope once you start.

Second. Tantra massage. Now this might sound lame but bear with me. Yes its a massage with a HJ. True. But. What makes it unique? The hippies. I guess it you could call them hipster these days. Or maybe emos. But whatever you call them. You get what I mean. Those types. Follow her instruction and you'll find that they are actually more tuned-in than you may think. At least that's my view on it from my usual cynical perspective. Plus the HJ lasts a good long while so you a qucikie like in some HJ shops. Just hope you get a lady who shaves her legs.

And then finally the swinger clubs. Now this is not really my bag. I don't need the hassle of dressing for the occasion. Many of these places only let you in if you have a certain look. Once you get passed that hurdle, if you are a single male you are then relegated to bottom of the pecking order. Generally in life, bottom of the list is not a place I like to occupy in any situation. BUT, if you are bothered to dress up, and if you, say, hire an escort to join you at the club, then I imagine much fun can be had. If I was resident in Berlin it might have this sorted. But for a fly-in I don't have time for it. I might go the escort route one day but I'd need to find the right escort first and that itself will take a while.

Other things you might wan tot try. Macau Saunas. The forum on that here is kind of dead, but rest assured they are still active and offer something unique. And quality of value and women is quite high. And then finally the many many weird variations of non-penetration activities of red light Japan. If I was into the looks and demeanor of Asian / Japenese women I would spend much more time in both these locations. But they are just not my style. Therefore during the season, I am content with the fast food version of the Asian persuasion that is readily found in Thailand at much more assessable venues and rates. But, don't be mislead my the industrial scale nature of the Thai sex sene. Seoul, Tokyo, Macau and even Hong Kong offer uniquely high quality high end experiences, they are just not targeted at the foreigners.

These do not represent my list of favorites. My cretira for that revolves much more around looks, age, ethnicity, language, clarity of services and overall ambiance of my surroundings. But based on purely 'uniqueness' of the experience. Those are my stand outs.

[QUOTE=AlgernonM;3087268]What are some of the most unique mongering experience that you have had / would recommend having in Europe.

I have mongered world over, and at this point a bit bored of the incall / outcall / spa / apartment scene.

For inspiration, some of my most unique / memorable experiences have been -.

1. Clube Vive in Madrid. You are in what is a very normal club looking place with lots of women and men. Hard to tell which woman is working vs. There for a drink. You approach the one you like, strike a deal and take them downstairs where they have designated rooms for booking.

2. FKK clubs in Germany as you all know..[/QUOTE]I figure it's best to reply here since this is almost all off topic for this sub, but since admin allowed the OP here we go.

1) Most Fond Memory:

Maybe 35 years ago my first pro experience. I was in Madrid and picked up the local entertainment guide and saw an ad or review for an "American Bar: with lots of "gazelles and model" which I took to be either a singles bar or strip club. It was called Pigmalion and right up until COVID it was my favorite place on earth. I get there and I see it's packed with beautiful women in elegant cocktail dresses. I'm in jeans and a sweater. I order a beer and try not to show how shocked I am and how expensive it was. I sip it slowly, and this voluptuous blonde comes up to me. She's from Brazil and her Spanish is even worse than mine. I'm fluent now but back then I had a very shaky grasp. We have a nice conversation and eventually she asked me if I want to take her home and of course I say yes. She then explains how the place works and how much it cost and I tell her honestly I don't have that much. She asked how much I do have which is maybe 2/3 of what she was asking and she says OK because it's slow and I'm so nice. So we go back to my hotel and we have a great time full GFE. We're laying in bed afterwards cuddling, and she asks if I'm married, and I say no, and she says I should marry her which leads to a little more fooling around and another pop for me. This time in her mouth and she swallowed it. Then she falls asleep in my arms and the next morning is not awkward and I walk her down to the street and then go looking for a banker ATM so I can get a cash advance on my American Express card so I can get a taxi to the airport and go home. My very first hooker experience. And when it's like that, you're pretty much in it for life.

2) Most Bizarre:

There's a strip club in Acapulco called Tabares. It has a mix of girls some of them only do lap dances and others do privates. I was getting a full nude beyond lap dance because she was laying on top of me from a perfect 10 who unfortunately didn't do privates full service. Later, I did full service with a young MILF who was so passionate and so into being pleased instead of just being the pleaser and ended up spending the rest of the weekend with me for very little money. But what made it memorable and bizarre was that periodically a loud whistle would go off and all the waiters would start rollerskating around the club, which is enough of a head scratcher, but for some reason, they were wearing headdresses that were set on fire. Never understood why they did it or what the point was. It might've been some sort of drink special or two for one dance special I don't know. But it was just bizarre.

3) Most Surreal:

My only real Asia experience was in the Philippines. It was this bar up on stilts with a thatched roof, no walls and overhead ceiling fans. A bunch of Americans hanging out shooting pool, playing video games and drinking beer from a bottle. Well attractive, local girls walking around in cheap cocktail dresses trying to get our attention. It felt like right out of a war movie and in fact, this used to be a military rec center. I just remember the whole experience feeling like a pleasant out of body experience like this just can't be real. And I brought one of the women home with me and she was very passionate and spent the night and in the morning I gave her exactly what we had agreed to nothing extra and she was so grateful and she kissed it and said that it was for her baby child. It's kind of an eye-opener for me too to remind me that these are real people that we're dealing with and not objects not that I ever felt that way, but it really hit at home.

4) Most Impressive:

Brazil. I'm in the middle of a mini FKK tour. I just finished up at wellcum and was previously at sharks. And while I enjoyed myself in both places and would recommend them and even return, I was underwhelmed. Expectations were high because of all the hype. I know that people have been saying that it's not as good as it used to be. But the main reason I was underwhelmed is that nothing I saw was better or even on par with what I've seen already in Brazil. Brazil has the club like environment that these clubs have. With tons of hot girls walking around scandalous clad available for you to take out or take upstairs. And Rio has this thing called termas which are even more similar in the sense that you get a locker and a wristband you change into a robe you charge everything to your wristband, and the girls are walking around available for sex and there are deminimus spa facilities. No food. But the women totally blew away the women that I saw at the FKK club so far. Not just in looks but also an attitude. Because they would come up to you and they would try to seduce you not just with sweet talk, but brushing your hair back, caressing your cheek, nuzzling your neck hand on your thigh maybe rubbing your chest even grabbing your package. And not an aggressive way and if you told them that you were just hanging out and wanted to finish your beer, they may say that they will keep you company while you finish your beer if you gave a positive indication or they'll politely leave if you gave more of a colder reception. And hanging out with the girls and having all that foreplay in the open before, pulling them and going to a room and then also they would hang out with you afterwards. It was so less mercenary than what I've been seeing in the FKK clubs. Now, of course that was 25 years ago. And of course things have changed, but for one I've been reading is that prices have gone up, but the quality of the girls and the quality of service is still the same. And when I think of heaven on earth, I think of Brazil and I think of what that bar in Madrid used to be.

There's my hot take. Hope you enjoyed it OP.