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Second. Tantra massage. Now this might sound lame but bear with me. Yes its a massage with a HJ. True. But. What makes it unique? The hippies. I guess it you could call them hipster these days. Or maybe emos. But whatever you call them. You get what I mean. Those types. Follow her instruction and you'll find that they are actually more tuned-in than you may think. At least that's my view on it from my usual cynical perspective. Plus the HJ lasts a good long while so you a qucikie like in some HJ shops. Just hope you get a lady who shaves her legs.
[/QUOTE]Can you share some examples of these salons?

Google helps, of course, but I'm not sure who in, say, Berlin is a hipster and who isn't.

Thank you Tom and Fakeit. It was very nice to read about your unique experiences. Now I get to work on Google.

I must apologize for low relevance of my post to Berlin specifically. The reason I posted here is because a) Berlin and Germany in general has been one of my favorite spots in the world for quality / variety, not just in mongering (of course ignoring the price factor which is cheaper in asia) - my first FKK club was in Berlin etc. Etc. B) Berlin forum is the most active. I may post the same thing in other city forums (there is no active Europe wide forum best I can tell). If I do and learn something new, promise to report back.

I do hope also that this post helps bring out some less talked about unique experiences, for anyone interested, to explore!

[QUOTE=FakeIt;3087289]Since you have posted on the Berlin thread I need to mention a couple of things unique to this city.

First. Fetish studios. Top notch stuff. Even as a compete newb who is not into BDSM you will find something interesting here. Browse the websites. Choose a girl you find attractive. Choose scenario (or 'scene' as they like to call it) that might interest you. Go and act it out. Very creative stuff mixed with the erotic. A slippery slope once you start.

Second. Tantra massage. Now this might sound lame but bear with me. Yes its a massage with a HJ. True. But. What makes it unique? The hippies. I guess it you could call them hipster these days. Or maybe emos. But whatever you call them. You get what I mean. Those types. Follow her instruction and you'll find that they are actually more tuned-in than you may think. At least that's my view on it from my usual cynical perspective. Plus the HJ lasts a good long while so you a qucikie like in some HJ shops. Just hope you get a lady who shaves her legs..[/QUOTE]Tantra was better in Berlin pre Covid, but there's a couple places in Munich that are good as well. I agree with you, that this is one of the cities that seems to "go at it" for Tantra. My complain has often been that the better known tantra places require quite long appointments, and you don't get to pick the practitioner until you go for your second appt. ALmost all offer HJ with an option for a PM as an upgrade and then hard NO for anything else. (at least for non regulars).

As to BDSM / Fetish. It's all over the country- Austria included. But if you want to find any 'subs' in the fetish realm, then Berlin and Hamburg lead in ladies who advertise and are tied to clubs. IN many of the other cities you have to find the lady and then match up with the club. But it's easiest in those two. For newbies who want to see what's offered, [URL]https://bdsm-studio-lux.de/en[/URL] is a good place to start. There's also a website deSade something I think that is a escort site Germany wide (the other countries are almost null in terms of who advertises) where ladies offer and describe in detail what you can get. I summary, you can't always get what you want, but if you beg on your knees, you'll find. Youll get what you need (depending if you're a top or a bottom), You might event get to lick the boots of some attractive ladies.

Thanks, very helpful.

Would you recommend any tantra places that you like? Could be in Berlin or anywhere in Europe?

For the fetish studios, the one you sent. Is that an example or one that you would recommend?

[QUOTE=Tintin1;3087560]Tantra was better in Berlin pre Covid, but there's a couple places in Munich that are good as well. I agree with you, that this is one of the cities that seems to "go at it" for Tantra. My complain has often been that the better known tantra places require quite long appointments, and you don't get to pick the practitioner until you go for your second appt. ALmost all offer HJ with an option for a PM as an upgrade and then hard NO for anything else. (at least for non regulars).

As to BDSM / Fetish. It's all over the country- Austria included. But if you want to find any 'subs' in the fetish realm, then Berlin and Hamburg lead in ladies who advertise and are tied to clubs. IN many of the other cities you have to find the lady and then match up with the club. But it's easiest in those two. For newbies who want to see what's offered, [URL]https://bdsm-studio-lux.de/en[/URL] is a good place to start. There's also a website deSade something I think that is a escort site Germany wide (the other countries are almost null in terms of who advertises) where ladies offer and describe in detail what you can get. I summary, you can't always get what you want, but if you beg on your knees, you'll find. Youll get what you need (depending if you're a top or a bottom), You might event get to lick the boots of some attractive ladies.[/QUOTE]

Studio Lux, which earlier had quite a few subs working there, seems to have moved on and is primarily / only offering tops.

The De Sade website link is here: [URL]https://www.galeriedesade.com[/URL] , still also there the number of subs has become rather small, seems to be a trend.

There is an escort agency specializing in BDSM / submissive, see here [URL]https://www.fetishescort.com/de/fetish-escort-ladies/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Tintin1;3087560]Tantra was better in Berlin pre Covid, but there's a couple places in Munich that are good as well. I agree with you, that this is one of the cities that seems to "go at it" for Tantra. My complain has often been that the better known tantra places require quite long appointments, and you don't get to pick the practitioner until you go for your second appt. ALmost all offer HJ with an option for a PM as an upgrade and then hard NO for anything else. (at least for non regulars).

As to BDSM / Fetish. It's all over the country- Austria included. But if you want to find any 'subs' in the fetish realm, then Berlin and Hamburg lead in ladies who advertise and are tied to clubs. IN many of the other cities you have to find the lady and then match up with the club. But it's easiest in those two. For newbies who want to see what's offered, [URL]https://bdsm-studio-lux.de/en[/URL] is a good place to start. There's also a website deSade something I think that is a escort site Germany wide (the other countries are almost null in terms of who advertises) where ladies offer and describe in detail what you can get. I summary, you can't always get what you want, but if you beg on your knees, you'll find. Youll get what you need (depending if you're a top or a bottom), You might event get to lick the boots of some attractive ladies.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Phantasie310;3088684]Studio Lux, which earlier had quite a few subs working there, seems to have moved on and is primarily / only offering tops.

The De Sade website link is here: [URL]https://www.galeriedesade.com[/URL] , still also there the number of subs has become rather small, seems to be a trend.

There is an escort agency specializing in BDSM / submissive, see here [URL]https://www.fetishescort.com/de/fetish-escort-ladies/[/URL][/QUOTE]

It’s very cyclical on the Subs. Some visits I can't find any but if I do catch them, it’s always a small number. I also find that on Lux (at least in the past) you had to search the calendar for names not go by the main pages and listings. There were a few girls who occasionally popped up others who only "worked there by appointment". I found my first one by contacting them directly "I think"!

Also it's not a long game being a sub and the trust process usually requires a relationship. The few I have met have been mostly "in the room" offers and telling me to book them but not post. There was one in Munich I loved for light submission. Like the ladies on your website suggestion. Most wanted a 2 hour minimum.