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[QUOTE=Paulie97;2726011]Methinks you need to lay off the booze in retirement. This is as laughable and unsubstantiated as any of the right wingnut conspiracy theories. Not to mention that this "mainstream media" obviously isn't very good at instigating these "knife's edge" elections given the landslides and many elections won by a comfortable margin over the last 50's. It's their job to present the sides of both campaigns during an election year and for the most part do a good job at it.

But this is as disingenuous as your false claim that Democrats haven't "presided" over any recessions or otherwise economic downturns while you cherry pick the data, picking what suits your agenda while ignoring that which doesn't. Yet the most hilarious hopefully booze induced claim in the unbridled hyper-partisan anti-Republican agenda was to reach way back and blame Lincoln for the Civil War. Lolol That's when he had no other choice besides allowing the nation to split. But the point is moot anyway as the roles have reversed in that the Republicans were the progressive party back them.

But anyway type me out another filibuster. You go on and on and on and people on both sides of the isle grow tired of reading and unraveling your protracted tripe. That's the aim. Bore them with bluster. LOL.[/QUOTE]Please stop lying about what I post in order to promote your pro Repub Bothsiderism. I never said Dems never presided over a recession or otherwise economic downturn.

The term I use is "Great Recession" or "Great Repub Recession. " There has not been a Great Recession started or presided over by a Dem POTUS in at least 100 years. Only Repubs.

The time frame is 100 years, not "ever" and I have explained why multiple times.

When Mainstream Media engages in your brand of tortured Bothsiderism, repeating any nonsense notion that Republicans are no worse (or better) at handling the economy than Dems, often right in the middle of a Great Repub Recession or a Great Dem Recovery, without bothering to mention Repub potuses have produced and presided over every Great Recession and Jobs Destruction of the past 100 years and none of the Great Recoveries, Jobs Creation and Expansions while Dems have produced and presided over every Great Recovery, Jobs Creation and Expansion of the past 100 years and none of the Great Recessions and Jobs Destruction, particularly during an election year, that is by any definition "helping Repubs win elections. ".

It is only marinally more blatant pro Repub Bothsiderism (or False Equivalency claim) than your repeated suggestion that a relatively insignificant and brief mini recession under Truman post WWII and the utra brief mini one purposely induced under Carter in order to cool down an overheated economy that was creating too many jobs, neither of which saw a spike in the Unemployment Rate higher than 7. 8% and for a single month, is no different than the massive downturns seen under Hoover, Reagan, Bush and Trump, where millions of jobs were wiped out and unemployment rates skyrocketed into double digits, often for many months.

Or is it "cherry picking" and oh so unfair to Repubs' chances of winning elections on the always critical issue of The Economy in this election year?

Apparently you and MSM think so.

Reading thru these comments, watching htem go backwards and forwards, round and round in circles, always trading in insults and making no progress. It makes me wonder why both sides set their bar so low?

It; s like listening to 2 sets of partisan sports fans arguing about their sports team - "you're so shlt its unbelievable", "you couldn't score in a brothel". The fans are so partisan and biased and so fixated in each other that neither set of supporters notices that both teams get relegated for finishing last and second last in the league! That's really it. Neither of you accept your own parties faults and just want to attack and blame the other, when the reality is that these 2 latest versions of the parties are possibly the worst representations of both parties in a long, long time, if not ever!

Furthermore, you both live under the same shared delusion. You are both deluded by what you think the Dem Party is. The Red side accuse it of being left wing, when the truth is it is a corporate elitist party, same as the Reps. And the Blue side wish it were left wing and continue to live under that delusion, in the vain hope that it is the party fo change, when the truth is it is a corrupt corporate elitist party that supports its sponsoors that buy its policy makers.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2725675]Calling it hearsay is idiotic.

Pathetic![/QUOTE]Hearsay noun.

Information received from other people that one cannot adequately substantiate; rumor:

"according to hearsay, Bob had managed to break his arm".

Synonyms:

Rumor gossip tittle-tattle tattle idle chatter idle talk mere talk report stories tales tidbits bavardage on dit Kaffeeklatsch labrish shu-shu bruit.

What is pathetic is that guys like you cannot acknowledge the FACT that Nancy's January 6 committee is dishonest and totally discredited.

The committee's star witness, White House assistant Cassidy Hutchinson, testified under oath that President Trump lost control of himself after the Capitol riot began. This is a stunning charge. Too bad it is not true.

"The problem is her testimony is 100 percent hearsay. Nothing backs it up. The committee could have illuminated Ms. Hutchinson's allegations by subpoenaing the Secret Service agents involved. The committee did not do that and did not explain why not.

But I can tell you why the Secret Service wasn't called. The agents would have contradicted Cassidy Hutchinson, that's why. ".

So here is the lack of integrity on the part of the committee: They knew Hutchinson testimony was third hand and could not be substantiated but they brought her forth anyway with the sole purpose to smear Trump. They knew that the leftwing media would run with the story and not question it for at least one new cycle. The key relevant point is that the committee refused to call the 2 FBI witnesses who had firsthand knowledge of what really happened. You do understand what firsthand means?

This is undeniable proof that the purpose of the committee was: 1. Smear Trump one more time and to hopefully prevent him from running for President, 2. To take the spotlight off the Biden administration's colossal economic failures before the November election, and 3. To throw some more red meat at party loyalists like yourself.

So, this public flogging has become a sanity test. I understand that you hate Trump. Fine, that is your right. But is your hatred clouding your judgement. To refuse to acknowledge the truth of what I have just described is irrational. There are no 2 sides to this. Just imagine if the situation was reversed and it was Republicans running a sham Soviet style public inquiry on Joe Biden with the outcome already preestablished before the first witness testifies. And further imagine that there were key 1st hand witnesses that were not called to testify under oath because their testimony would contradict the partisan hearsay testimony against Biden. You would be irate. Thus, the committee is totally discredited, and you would realize this fact if you were rational.

[QUOTE=Travv;2725946]From reading PVMonger and his buddies, they sound like Woke Army Recruiters! Army Unsure Why Their New Slogan 'America Is Racist, You Should Die For It' Isn't Getting Traction. . .

FORT FARRAKHAN CA A USA Army spokesperson admitted concern today after the recent drop in recruitment numbers, despite the unveiling of the new "America Is Racist, You Should Die For It" slogan.

Colonel Rip Skirtsteak said the Army will continue its push for diversity in hopes of drawing more new recruits. "It's just really hard to find recruits who hate this country as they should but are also willing to put their lives on the line to protect it," Skirtsteak said as he adjusted his rainbow flag lapel pin. "We may have to switch to Plan be, which is to offer free gender reassignment surgery for everyone who signs up. ".

The USA Army, once regarded as the premiere fighting force in the world except for the far superior Marine Corps, has instead diverted its efforts to getting rid of people who love America while promoting more inclusivity. "I really just wanted to join the military to serve my country, provide a bright future for my family, and stand up for what I believe is right," a young cadet said as he walked away from his local recruitment center after being asked by the recruitment officer if he regretted his white middle-class upbringing.

At press time, the Army was in deep discussions to create more publicity and attract potential recruits. "If our new rainbow camouflage uniforms don't get people in line to sign up, then maybe our planned 'Drag Queen Boot Camp' will do the trick," Colonel Skirtsteak said as he closed his press conference and strutted in his red high heels back to his office. . . .[/QUOTE]Like a typical RethugliKKKant, you copied-and-pasted without giving "credit" to your "source".

You realize that the opposite of "woke" is "asleep". So evidently you prefer going through life asleep as opposed to wide awake. After all, if you are asleep, the FUX Snooze messaging penetrates easier.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2726176]Hearsay noun.

Information received from other people that one cannot adequately substantiate; rumor:

"according to hearsay, Bob had managed to break his arm".

Synonyms:

Rumor gossip tittle-tattle tattle idle chatter idle talk mere talk report stories tales tidbits bavardage on dit Kaffeeklatsch labrish shu-shu bruit.

What is pathetic is that guys like you cannot acknowledge the FACT that Nancy's January 6 committee is dishonest and totally discredited.

The committee's star witness, White House assistant Cassidy Hutchinson, testified under oath that President Trump lost control of himself after the Capitol riot began. This is a stunning charge. Too bad it is not true.

"The problem is her testimony is 100 percent hearsay. Nothing backs it up. The committee could have illuminated Ms. Hutchinson's allegations by subpoenaing the Secret Service agents involved. The committee did not do that and did not explain why not.

But I can tell you why the Secret Service wasn't called. The agents would have contradicted Cassidy Hutchinson, that's why. ".

So here is the lack of integrity on the part of the committee: They knew Hutchinson testimony was third hand and could not be substantiated but they brought her forth anyway with the sole purpose to smear Trump. They knew that the leftwing media would run with the story and not question it for at least one new cycle. The key relevant point is that the committee refused to call the 2 FBI witnesses who had firsthand knowledge of what really happened. You do understand what firsthand means?

This is undeniable proof that the purpose of the committee was: 1. Smear Trump one more time and to hopefully prevent him from running for President, 2. To take the spotlight off the Biden administration's colossal economic failures before the November election, and 3. To throw some more red meat at party loyalists like yourself.

So, this public flogging has become a sanity test. I understand that you hate Trump. Fine, that is your right. But is your hatred clouding your judgement. To refuse to acknowledge the truth of what I have just described is irrational. There are no 2 sides to this. Just imagine if the situation was reversed and it was Republicans running a sham Soviet style public inquiry on Joe Biden with the outcome already preestablished before the first witness testifies. And further imagine that there were key 1st hand witnesses that were not called to testify under oath because their testimony would contradict the partisan hearsay testimony against Biden. You would be irate. Thus, the committee is totally discredited, and you would realize this fact if you were rational.[/QUOTE]Hey AxeH. Stop parroting FUX Snooze.

When a person says "What 'personX' told me was that the Mango Mussolini grabbed for the steering wheel. ", they [B]are not[/B] saying that they were there. They are saying what they were [B]told[/B]. In an actual trial, this may or may not be classified as "hearsay" depending upon the circumstances. See, the issue is that Ornato told Hutchinson what was related to him [B]by an agent who was in the vehicle[/B] and was present in the room when the story was told. The agent who was in the vehicle could have spoken up then-and there and called BS. He didn't. There's a cure for this, though. Just have the two parties that were [B]in the freaking room[/B] when Ornato told Hutchinson the story [B]testify under oath[/B]. But they haven't and they won't.

What you tRUMPers fail to grasp is that [B]the committee hearings are not a trial[/B]. You may not like it but you had your chance to have an actual bi-partisan commission but the dumber-than-dogshit RethugliKKKants refused. So you made your bed and now you've got to sleep there.

Ahhh, yes, undeniable proof. You, of course, don't show any of this proof. Gee, I wonder why? Maybe because this proof exists in your mind only.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2726176]Hearsay noun.

Information received from other people that one cannot adequately substantiate; rumor:

"according to hearsay, Bob had managed to break his arm".

Synonyms:

Rumor gossip tittle-tattle tattle idle chatter idle talk mere talk report stories tales tidbits bavardage on dit Kaffeeklatsch labrish shu-shu bruit.

What is pathetic is that guys like you cannot acknowledge the FACT that Nancy's January 6 committee is dishonest and totally discredited.

The committee's star witness, White House assistant Cassidy Hutchinson, testified under oath that President Trump lost control of himself after the Capitol riot began. This is a stunning charge. Too bad it is not true.

"The problem is her testimony is 100 percent hearsay. Nothing backs it up. [/QUOTE]Axel Heist is 100% wrong in her assertion:

Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony contained numerous direct quotes coming from TrumpShit's own mouth.

Directly quoting criminals is not heresay.

It is often damning testimony accepted in all courts.

And often the key to tricky convictions.

Like TrumpShit will eventually get.

Anybody who does not realize there is a stamped of insiders all trying now to tell the truth today to bring down TrumpShit.

Are naive fools.

TrumpShit runs his operations like a mob boss, trying to be untouchable.

Never any sinister orders in writing.

An arm's length distance from his crimes.

Much like how he got Cohen jailed for bribing Story Daniels.

Insiders will bring TrumpSht down. Right now they are competing for clemency from DOJ.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2725646] There would be hundreds of thousands of people who would not be dead now in Ukraine and Afghanistan had Trump been re-elected but it is worth it for you. You do not have to deal with hit mean tweets.[/QUOTE]That's so laughable, even you don't believe it. Your crocodile tears are touching for Ukrainians and Afghans. Agent Orange still manage to do far worst, with close to half a million American COVID deaths.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2725646]Adjust to what? Not reading twitter? Not following Trump in the news? How did you suffer so with Trump?

WTF are you talking about? I have been short Biden's market and done better than most. Lately, there has been some pain but I have added to my positions. I have done better than anyone else I know.

Are you so dense you do not see the suffering of others? For a guy making constant noise about Trump, you are even more self-absorbed than he is. [/QUOTE]What now? "Dense", is it you say? Whoa! I must have struck a nerve!

You say that, like Agent Orange's mad fuel induced rants and raves on Twitter didn't have CONSEQUENCES, to the lives of suffering Americans.

If America was looking for an anodyne president, to ease their suffering, under Agent Orange, they only experience "heartburn".

[u]Agent Orange's "Ode to Tweet":[/u]
-tweets that tell you to take "Clorox Bleach" for COVID and watch what happens.
-tweets that tell Latin Americans they are rapists, job stealing, taco bowl immigrants.
-tweets that incite violence.
-tweets that incite an attempted insurrection / coup.
-tweets that lie about rigged elections and place election workers lives in harms way.
-mad, racist tweets that -embraces and endorses violence of one group over another.
-mad, racist tweets that endorses white supremacy factions (ie. Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, Biker Gangs, KKK).
-mad, racist tweets that and other right-wing militias and extremist groups.
-The now infamous tweet ordering followers to come to the. See. On January 6. "Will be huge!" he declared. (knowing full well his "cult faithless" were weaponized and ready to KILL Mike Pense, Nancy Pelosi and others).

Need I go on? Why else are there literally reams of websites / pages on the internet and tweeter verse, that are littered with his racist, bigoted lies, delusional rants, buffoonery and gaffes.

His presidency is one big blooper real. Still incredulous?

[U]Here's more:[/U]

[URL]https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/trumps-worst-tweets-so-far.html/ [/URL]
[URL]https://news.sky.com/story/us-election-donald-trumps-45-most-controversial-tweets-12098204[/URL]
[URL]https://www.forbes.com/pictures/flji45elmm/donald-trumps-10-most-of/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.wired.com/story/tweets-got-trump-banned-far-from-worst/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/19/upshot/trump-complete-insult-list.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.huffpost.com/entry/worst-trump-quotes_n_5756e8e6e4b07823f9514fb1[/URL]
[URL]https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/donald-trumps-meanest-twitter-insults-223222/[/URL]
[URL]https://news.sky.com/story/trumps-tweets-infamous-offensive-and-bizarre-posts-by-atrealdonaldtrump-12182992[/URL]

Well, if that's not clear enough yet, that mad capped, unhinged racist, misinformed, mad ranting [B]tweets[/B] from a standing president, [B]much like spoken words[/B], have dire consequences to suffering Americans (especially a president with close to 1/2 million Americans COVID deaths under their watch), I don't know what is.

But perhaps [B] you're the one, just too "dense" to understand. [/B].

His racist hate speeches/tweets, lying, dishonesty, spreading falsehoods, misinformation and untruths either by written words, spoken words or via tweeter are tantamount and absolutely did cause wide spread untold suffering among Americans.

But it's clear now, [b]YOU ARE[/b] maybe [b] too "dense"[/b] to grasp, the basic traits one should look for in a good president, that governs for ALL Americans. Americans are still suffering in the wake of is ineptitude.

BTW, I'll take a little economic suffering from a standing president over getting "Clorox" killed by one.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2726313]That's so laughable, even you don't believe it. Your crocodile tears are touching for Ukrainians and Afghans. Agent Orange still manage to do far worst, with close to half a million American COVID deaths.[/QUOTE]Yeah, you just lost taking anyone taking your seriously after that comment. Biden ran on shutting down the virus not the country and more people died under him than Trump. Then you had the experts like Fauci and Biden himself mouthing off about the pandemic of the unvaxxed and both were vaxxed x 4 and got Covid.

You have not one shred of objective proof that Trump being president had anything to do with Covid deaths. You dumb Dems just find a narrative, any narrative, to blame Trump for Covid and go with it.

Every single intervention you have criticized him for (masks, quarantines, travel bans, lockdowns, and finally vaccines) has not just been an utter failure but often harmful to the public. The latest narration debacle is some team of doctors he dissolved in 2018 could have stopped the pandemic, and the only reason you have gone for that is everything else has failed.

I do not know anyone who took the injecting bleach comment seriously. I thought it was a joke, and everyone in the media called it stupid at the time. But no one thought Biden saying "if you get vaccinated, you will not get Covid" was a joke. Yet for some reason, you dumb Dems take a stupid comment / joke as one of great importance, and give Biden being dead wrong a pass. The objective people here know that is because you dumb Dems are a bunch of lying hypocrites.

No one is taking you seriously now Spidy. You rank up there with Eih telling us how great the USA is doing from Thailand and what a splendid president Jimmy Carter was. I will read your posts like I read his, for comic relief.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2726176]Hearsay noun.

Information received from other people that one cannot adequately substantiate; rumor:

"according to hearsay, Bob had managed to break his arm".

Synonyms:

Rumor gossip tittle-tattle tattle idle chatter idle talk mere talk report stories tales tidbits bavardage on dit Kaffeeklatsch labrish shu-shu bruit.

What is pathetic is that guys like you cannot acknowledge the FACT that Nancy's January 6 committee is dishonest and totally discredited.

The committee's star witness, White House assistant Cassidy Hutchinson, testified under oath that President Trump lost control of himself after the Capitol riot began. This is a stunning charge. Too bad it is not true.

"The problem is her testimony is 100 percent hearsay. Nothing backs it up. The committee could have illuminated Ms. Hutchinson's allegations by subpoenaing the Secret Service agents involved. The committee did not do that and did not explain why not.

But I can tell you why the Secret Service wasn't called. The agents would have contradicted Cassidy Hutchinson, that's why. ".

So here is the lack of integrity on the part of the committee: They knew Hutchinson testimony was third hand and could not be substantiated but they brought her forth anyway with the sole purpose to smear Trump. They knew that the leftwing media would run with the story and not question it for at least one new cycle. The key relevant point is that the committee refused to call the 2 FBI witnesses who had firsthand knowledge of what really happened. You do understand what firsthand means?[/QUOTE]And once again, pathetic!

I will post a few excerpts from a solid article written by real lawyers that flushes your "hearsay" theory down the toilet. But first this.

If I'm subpoenaed by a congressional committee, I don't have a luxury to choose what to say. If Axel Heyst told me that Bob had broken his arm, it's my duty -- because I'm testifying UNDER OATH -- to inform the Congress that Axel Heyst has told me about Bob's broken arm.

That's not a hearsay / rumor about Bob. I have no way to determine whether that knucklehead Bob has really broken his arm. My duty is to simply tell the truth about the conversation with Axel Heyst and inform the Congress that Axel Heyst has provided me with the info about Bob who managed to brake his fucking arm somehow.

The Congress then has an option to issue a subpoena for Axel Heyst to confirm or deny the story about things he told me about Bob's broken arm, but there is a pickle: Axel Heyst has been claiming some phony executive privilege thus refusing to fucking testify about that fucking arm, that fucking conversation, that fucking Bob, and fucking everything.

It seems to me that Axel Heyst believes that as long as he (and a bunch of his cultist friends) are refusing to testify, he can stick to that ridiculous "hearsay" narrative. Then he and his cultist friends can go ahead and claim that a career government employee would happily lie through her teeth under oath and put herself in a real legal jeopardy.

For fucking what?

This "hearsay" theory is as laughable as any other "defense" you fellas are so desperately trying to re-invent to protect your cult leader. RE-invent because there is nothing new about it. All this nonsense has been raised many times during these 60+ Trump lawsuits thrown out all over the country. This POS "hearsay" saga will meet the same end.

Enough about this bullshit already. Here are the excerpts from a great article on the subject matter. Emphasis mine. Full text at the link below.

Law and Crime.

[URL]https://lawandcrime.com/jan-6-committee/house-judiciary-gop-claimed-mark-meadows-aides-blockbuster-testimony-was-literally-all-hearsay-evidence-the-truth-is-more-complicated[/URL]

[QUOTE]As the top aide for former President Donald Trumps ex-chief of staff delivered a blow-by-blow account Tuesday of her version of conversations with others in the then-presidents inner circle in the lead-up to Jan. 6, 2021, the official Twitter account for Republicans on the House Judiciary Committee launched a partially specious counterattack.

Its literally all hearsay evidence, tweeted @JudiciaryGOP, a committee whose Republican members are led by Trump loyalist Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio. What a joke.

[b]Jordan refused earlier this year to cooperate with the Jan. 6 Committee[/b], and the House Judiciary Republicans whom he leads largely misstated and oversimplified the Federal Rules of Evidence the rules with which the lawmakers overseeing the courts should be familiar.
[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]The first issue with the GOPs tweet is its wholesale approach to the testimony: its literally all hearsay. Thats not entirely accurate. While some of the testimony almost surely would be considered hearsay in a court of law, some of it would not, and the distinctions are far more complicated than the all-or-nothing assertion made by the GOPs tweet.

[b]The second issue with the tweet is that Cassidy Hutchinson wasnt testifying in a court of law. Therefore, the rules of evidence do not apply. Evidence rules apply to criminal and civil lawsuits tried before a judge and sometimes a jury. They do not apply to congressional hearings, which are fact-finding missions at their core. So, the hearsay assertion as applied to the Committee hearings is ultimately irrelevant. [/b]
[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE] In a court of law, some of Hutchinsons most stunning (and reportedly to-be-disputed) testimony might be considered excludable hearsay. Her testimony about Trump allegedly trying to grab the steering wheel of the armored vehicle... recounted events relayed to her by then-Deputy Chief of Staff Tony Ornato...

Im the fing president, Trump reportedly yelled while in the car. Take me up to the Capitol now!

Hutchinson said that, according to Ornato, Trump then reached up toward the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel.

Engel, then the head of Trumps security detail, then allegedly grabbed Trumps hand and told him to take his hand off the wheel. Trump then allegedly turned on Engel himself, using his free hand to lunge toward the agent, Hutchinson said.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]This line of testimony could potentially be considered inadmissible hearsay, [b]if Hutchinson was testifying at trial...[/b]

However, as Harwin ([b]a former federal prosecutor[/b]) explained, [b]if Ornato himself was being charged with a crime or was a party to a lawsuit, his statement might not be considered hearsay at all, and instead would be deemed an admission of a party-opponent (and, therefore admissible).[/b]

But Hutchinson could testify about other things she saw and observed.

[b]Just because you see something and you testify about your own personal observation, thats not necessarily hearsay[/b], Harwin said. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2726336]And once again, pathetic!

I will post a few excerpts from a solid article written by real lawyers that flushes your "hearsay" theory down the toilet. But first this.

If I'm subpoenaed by a congressional committee, I don't have a luxury to choose what to say. If Axel Heyst told me that Bob had broken his arm, it's my duty -- because I'm testifying UNDER OATH -- to inform the Congress that Axel Heyst has told me about Bob's broken arm.

That's not a hearsay / rumor about Bob. I have no way to determine whether that knucklehead Bob has really broken his arm. My duty is to simply tell the truth about the conversation with Axel Heyst and inform the Congress that Axel Heyst has provided me with the info about Bob who managed to brake his fucking arm somehow.

The Congress then has an option to issue a subpoena for Axel Heyst to confirm or deny the story about things he told me about Bob's broken arm, but there is a pickle: Axel Heyst has been claiming some phony executive privilege thus refusing to fucking testify about that fucking arm, that fucking conversation, that fucking Bob, and fucking everything.

It seems to me that Axel Heyst believes that as long as he (and a bunch of his cultist friends) are refusing to testify, he can stick to that ridiculous "hearsay" narrative. Then he and his cultist friends can go ahead and claim that a career government employee would happily lie through her teeth under oath and put herself in a real legal jeopardy.

For fucking what?

This "hearsay" theory is as laughable as any other "defense" you fellas are so desperately trying to re-invent to protect your cult leader. RE-invent because there is nothing new about it. All this nonsense has been raised many times during these 60+ Trump lawsuits thrown out all over the country. This POS "hearsay" saga will meet the same end.[/QUOTE]You are absolutely correct. I would say it slightly differently but it all comes to the same place.

AxelHeyst has been watching too many episodes of Law & Order. Hearsay may not be accepted in a trial. But absolutely it is acceptable in a Congressional Hearing. What Axel didn't know is that the Congressional Hearing is not a trial. They are functioning like a Grand Jury and listening to evidence. Hearsay may lead to witnesses with direct involvement or knowledge of the events. So while "hearsay evidence" may not be used at a future trial, the Congressional Committee is absolutely entitled to listen to it and issue subpoenas to others who may have direct knowledge.

If charges are referred and a trial occurs later that "hearsay" may or may not be useable. Generally not, however there are exceptions.

Score:

Xpartan - 1 for a far better understanding.

AxelHeyst - 0 not understanding the difference between a trial and Congressional hearings.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2726319]Yeah, you just lost taking anyone taking your seriously after that comment. Biden ran on shutting down the virus not the country and more people died under him than Trump. Then you had the experts like Fauci and Biden himself mouthing off about the pandemic of the unvaxxed and both were vaxxed x 4 and got Covid.

You have not one shred of objective proof that Trump being president had anything to do with Covid deaths. You dumb Dems just find a narrative, any narrative, to blame Trump for Covid and go with it.

Every single intervention you have criticized him for (masks, quarantines, travel bans, lockdowns, and finally vaccines) has not just been an utter failure but often harmful to the public. The latest narration debacle is some team of doctors he dissolved in 2018 could have stopped the pandemic, and the only reason you have gone for that is everything else has failed.

I do not know anyone who took the injecting bleach comment seriously. I thought it was a joke, and everyone in the media called it stupid at the time. But no one thought Biden saying "if you get vaccinated, you will not get Covid" was a joke. Yet for some reason, you dumb Dems take a stupid comment / joke as one of great importance, and give Biden being dead wrong a pass. The objective people here know that is because you dumb Dems are a bunch of lying hypocrites.

No one is taking you seriously now Spidy. You rank up there with Eih telling us how great the USA is doing from Thailand and what a splendid president Jimmy Carter was. I will read your posts like I read his, for comic relief.[/QUOTE][blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]

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Or, as Repubs would say, "The Worstest Mostest Terriblest Great Recession of all time"! LOL.

[B]One chart shows why an official recession call isn't coming anytime soon[/B]

[URL]https://finance.yahoo.com/news/recession-economy-chart-explains-july-2022-153839171.html?.tsrc=372[/URL]

My god. The charted and cited GDP Growth and Jobs Creation results and trends after Trump took office and passed his $2. 5 Trillion failed economic "stimulus" bill vs what Biden has accomplished in just 18 months were truly pathetic. Biden has done a better job of recovering us from the Trump presidency disaster than even I thought.

Biden has created a MILLION more jobs in just the first 6 months of 2022 than in the ENTIRETY of Trump's "best" pre Trump's Pandemic year of 2019!

After which Trump's godawful economic decisions since at least 2018 wiped out 10+ MILLION jobs!

Still, typically pro Repub Mainstream Media (CNN included, I am sure) kept telling its viewers all through the 2020 presidential election campaign that Trump should spend more time talking up his good economy. LOL. Seriously.

You know, the critical election factor that many people gullible enough to believe MSM's self-serving spin on it think is better handled by Repubs than by Dems, don't you know.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2726319]Yeah, you just lost taking anyone taking your seriously after that comment. Biden ran on shutting down the virus not the country and more people died under him than Trump. Then you had the experts like Fauci and Biden himself mouthing off about the pandemic of the unvaxxed and both were vaxxed x 4 and got Covid.

You have not one shred of objective proof that Trump being president had anything to do with Covid deaths. You dumb Dems just find a narrative, any narrative, to blame Trump for Covid and go with it.

Every single intervention you have criticized him for (masks, quarantines, travel bans, lockdowns, and finally vaccines) has not just been an utter failure but often harmful to the public. The latest narration debacle is some team of doctors he dissolved in 2018 could have stopped the pandemic, and the only reason you have gone for that is everything else has failed.

I do not know anyone who took the injecting bleach comment seriously. I thought it was a joke, and everyone in the media called it stupid at the time. But no one thought Biden saying "if you get vaccinated, you will not get Covid" was a joke. Yet for some reason, you dumb Dems take a stupid comment / joke as one of great importance, and give Biden being dead wrong a pass. The objective people here know that is because you dumb Dems are a bunch of lying hypocrites.

No one is taking you seriously now Spidy. You rank up there with Eih telling us how great the USA is doing from Thailand and what a splendid president Jimmy Carter was. I will read your posts like I read his, for comic relief.[/QUOTE]You don't know anybody who took the injecting bleach comment seriously? Really? Because lots of RethugliKKKants did. Why else did calls to poison control centers go up in the days and weeks following his "joke". [URL]https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/25/845015236/nyc-poison-control-sees-uptick-in-calls-after-trumps-disinfectant-comments[/URL] and [URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertglatter/2020/04/25/calls-to-poison-centers-spike--after-the-presidents-comments-about-using-disinfectants-to-treat-coronavirus/?sh=d3eb5f011574[/URL] and [URL]https://www.poison.med.wayne.edu/updates-content/kstytapp2qfstf0pkacdxmz943u1hs[/URL] and [URL]https://www.kansascity.com/news/coronavirus/article242318056.html[/URL].

All one needs to do is to google "poison control calls after trump inject disinfectant remarks". There are hundreds of articles.

This is something that RethugliKKKants can't seem to wrap their minds around. [B]Words matter[/B]. When someone like tRUMP says "Why don't we look into injecting disinfectant as a cure for COVID", thousands of his supporters start drinking bleach martinis. [B]You[/B] may have thought it was a joke but thousands of tRUMP supporters didn't. And tRUMP didn't think it was a joke either because he said that he never jokes. [URL]https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/23/trump-joking-slowing-coronavirus-testing-335459[/URL].

Words matter. Ask any of the traitors who tried to overthrow the Government on January 6th, 2021. They [B]all[/B] said that they were there because tRUMP wanted them to be there and wanted them to do what they did. [URL]https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-trump-say-peacefully-patriotically-march-capitol-1561718[/URL].

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