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[QUOTE=Chocha Monger; 1324641]Starchild,

It is unfortunate that the white American monger was shot several times in the backside as he fled. However, you can't assume because he was an American English tutor that he was knowledgeable and experienced in dealing with being on the business end of a hand canon. Contrary to what you see on TV most Americans will never experience armed robbery. He could have just been another sexpat there teaching English to help finance an addiction to cheap sex in the Philippines and ended up dealing with more than he bargained for. Running and trying to enter the car right outside the store was very stupid on his part. As he found out, he was unable to outrun bullets. The money that white guys are believed to have is the treasured commodity in the Philippines. Filipinos have no conscience when it comes to killing white guys for that money which makes trying to run away with your money very foolish when they have guns drawn at close quarters.

Still, you should not allow yourself to be rendered impotent with fear. Millions of sex tourist and sexpats frequent the Philippines, and though many are murdered and otherwise victimized, they represent a very small minority in the overall picture. Like you said, India is dangerous and you cannot get any sex there as an Indian man. At least in the Philippines you can get cheap sex in return for risking your life, health and possessions a little. Isn't that better than living like Slum Dog Millionaire and reaching the age of 30 yrs before even seeing a vagina?

'No passion so effectually robs the mind of its powers of acting and reasoning as fear. ' – Edmund Burke.[/QUOTE]Hahaha. Yes. India sucks big time. I will trade PH with India anytime. Ph will always be number 1 priority in my life, due to the amount of fun I can have which I never had back home. What I'm pointing out is. Why isn't anyone inquiring about the 7-11 guard? Where was he. I goggled all the reports on this news and could not find any mention of the guard in 7-11. The reason is, I remember, most of the time when I enter 7-11, a guard opens the door and if I stay longer around the shelf, he comes out checking what I'm doing. I don't know, may be you guys have missed the security guards in 7-11, just check it next time. A guard is always present in 7-11 and he carries a gun.

Its really strange to me that, he was missing from action, when it mattered the most. Did he just give up and lay on the ground or he resisted. And the CCTV is just the photo they are showing. May be they approached the American and wanted his wallet or may be they wanted to kidnap him for ransom as white guys are a treasured commodity in the PH. Thats why he chose to run? Not sure. But its odd that. He would simply run in a hold up. Was he near the door, when he decided to make a run or he pushed them and tried to escape? And was shot at from behind?

So many questions unanswered

[QUOTE=Starchild2012;1324731]Why isn't anyone inquiring about the 7-11 guard? Where was he. I goggled all the reports on this news and could not find any mention of the guard in 7-11. The reason is, I remember, most of the time when I enter 7-11, a guard opens the door and if I stay longer around the shelf, he comes out checking what I'm doing. I don't know, may be you guys have missed the security guards in 7-11, just check it next time. A guard is always present in 7-11 and he carries a gun.[/QUOTE]Starchild, perhaps the poor security guard had the wisdom to just leave his post and go home to Mama and the kids thereby saving not just his own ass, but others as well. Afterall, drawing his Canon the innocents would get hurt for sure; always the case. Pretty much what I would have done with the miserable wages being paid. Hope this was the case.

Either that, or heaven forbid, he was part of the holdup team. Dreadful thought, I know. This is very much the case in many take downs.

On a personal note. Moving from A to B on any street worldwide, one should always move with purpose. No hanging about as if a lost, unsure fart. Sound advice!

Time to focus on pussy.

[QUOTE=Noddy; 1324750]Starchild, perhaps the poor security guard had the wisdom to just leave his post and go home to Mama and the kids thereby saving not just his own ass, but others as well. Afterall, drawing his Canon the innocents would get hurt for sure; always the case. Pretty much what I would have done with the miserable wages being paid. Hope this was the case.

Either that, or heaven forbid, he was part of the holdup team. Dreadful thought, I know. This is very much the case in many take downs.

On a personal note. Moving from A to B on any street worldwide, one should always move with purpose. No hanging about as if a lost, unsure fart. Sound advice!

Time to focus on pussy.[/QUOTE]Totally true. I agree 100. I'm sorry to all who misunderstood what I'm truly trying to say. OK. Let me put this out. If an Asian guy from India, PH, Th, China, Japan, Korea etc goes to your country, he can become a cop, lawyer, athelete, hollywood star, strip bar owner, business man in no time. An asian can become anything he wants, when he goes to a western country.

BUT, when a farang tries to make it in Asia. He is just a walking ATM. Farang is good as long as he has money, when he has no money. Its time to JUMP. We know 100's of farangs who don't find a way in Asia and just jump.

I f*ing truly hate this discrimination, its reverse racism. I'm just trying to warn folks from western countries not to fall on the trap. Enjoy in Asia. As long as you have money and ATM card. Once its goes. No one will care for you. Sorry. Its the way Asia is defined in the matrix. You guys should watch star wars 10 times before you come to Asia.

You missed something there SC and that's something called hard work, focus, sacrifice and determination. Any advanced degree program in the USA generally takes at least 6 years. Even alot of police departments are requiring their applicants to have college degrees and that's 4 years. A Chinese guy doesn't jump out of the container on the ship and become a movie star overnight, nor is he going to play for the Bulls, Bears, Cubs, White Sox or Blackhawks. So those things don't happen "in no time." Yours is typical third world thinking in that context. I do however, tend to agree with the rest of your remarks.

[QUOTE=Slippery;1324948]You missed something there SC and that's something called hard work, focus, sacrifice and determination. Any advanced degree program in the USA generally takes at least 6 years. Even alot of police departments are requiring their applicants to have college degrees and that's 4 years. A Chinese guy doesn't jump out of the container on the ship and become a movie star overnight, nor is he going to play for the Bulls, Bears, Cubs, White Sox or Blackhawks. So those things don't happen "in no time." Yours is typical third world thinking in that context. I do however, tend to agree with the rest of your remarks.[/QUOTE]We don't even give them that chance as well, even if a farang studies in The University of Philippines and becomes a top rank holder with all hard work. He still won't be able to work easily like if a Filipino worked his ass out and tried to do the same in America.

Hardwork, determination is just an excuse to hide reverse racism. Ask any farang, he will tell you, how hard it is to find a job in Asia. All he could do in Asia is to become an English teacher or work in a foreign bank or get transfered to a multinational corporation etc. There is no free choice on what he could do.

Yesterday, I was talking to a friend in Australia and he has same background, education as me and he says, his life changed since he came to Australia and the way, they treated him, gave him unemployment benefits, home, treated him like one of them, he got his permanent residency and now after 2-3 years he has a steady job and all through the trouble the way they treated him. Made him totally respect the country and its people. He himself said, if an Australian tried to find a job in India with same qualification etc like he did in Australia, there will be mass protest.

For 90% of farangs in Asia, they are good as long as they have an ATM card, once the money is gone. Its time to jump or they will be pushed by their darling gf, wife and claim whatever penny he had.

But what has this to do with an American shot in 7-11, well. The guy too was running an english school. And if farangs starts to do regular jobs in Asia, perhaps the image of rich farang will fade away. And the robbers won't pick farangs from the pack. Which is what happened I believe. They picked him up for wallet or kidnap for ransom and he tried to escape NOT RUN and was shot at.

Hardwork and determination make me a racist? Perhaps SC, you need to have your own racism thread here. And I do take offense at being categorized as a Kano. Keep the racism out of this place.

I know we are all dying to get into the crunchy details of racism and reverse racism (whatever the fuck that is). I always have a suspicion that such posters with unrelated issues such as our self-identified South Asian friend are really stealth antagonists trying to look genuine. The massive quotes and re-quotes of posts just push the relevant material to the bottom. Due to the the quality of contribution alone, clearly this character deserves to be set into his own thread where he can post away with his insightful views on racism and the plight of South Asians in mongering. Rather than reasoning, just click Report Post and let Jackson take it from there.

Anyway, rather than pay this topic any more attention, just a quick aside to talk about what REALLY happens with respect to our hobby in the totally danger-ridden war zone Malate area. Friday was supposed to hook-up at lunch with a DIA girl at Robinson's Malate. Stroll over to the Atrium where they have the Party Poker World Cup of Pool going on. Park myself at the Mary Grace on second floor and have a great seat to watch China give Spain a thorough drubbing while having lunch and coffee. Match is over and girl still hasn't shown, so I conclude she has bailed, so walk the mall for any alternate prospects.

End up checking out Starbucks and spot The Killer Bee, named because of the stark yellow and black skin tight skirt she was wearing. I gave her the eye and nod and we met at the door. Made a beeline straight for the Eurotel across the street. In the room Killer Bee claimed to be a first-time-to-do-this student working for school fees. She expected me to pay her before the act. When I asked how much, she said that her "usual rate is p5k". Usual rate? So much for being a first-timer, huh. I slapped p1k on the dressing table and told her "that's the rate for short time, you might get a tip IF you give good service".

She got her kit off post haste and we had a fairly hum drum session. Nothing wrong with her service, but it was mechanical and rushed. Finished up, showered and as we were exiting the room I topped her rate up p200 for doing a decent job and we were out of there. Wanted to watch the Thailand / England match, but had other duties. Was back at the office just in time for my 4pm meeting. All-in-all a Good Friday. Enjoy the Philippines, AsianRain

SC,

you are kind of on the right track re racism. But there is no such thing as reverse racism. A person is either racist or not.

Actually, I believe that racism exists in a continuum, from totally racist to completely non racist.

All of the countries in SE Asia are racist. A Korean can migrate to Australia and take out Australian citizenship. An Australian can not migrate to Korea and take out citizenship.

A Filipino can buy land in Australia, but an Australian can not buy land in the Philippines.

This is deliberate racism, but they have good reasons for acting in this way.

In my limited experience, the most racist people that I have encountered are black Americans and Australian aboriginals. For them, race is everything.

G

[QUOTE=Starchild2012; 1324851]Totally true. I agree 100. I'm sorry to all who misunderstood what I'm truly trying to say. OK. Let me put this out. If an Asian guy from India, PH, Th, China, Japan, Korea etc goes to your country, he can become a cop, lawyer, athelete, hollywood star, strip bar owner, business man in no time. An asian can become anything he wants, when he goes to a western country.

BUT, when a farang tries to make it in Asia. He is just a walking ATM. Farang is good as long as he has money, when he has no money. Its time to JUMP. We know 100's of farangs who don't find a way in Asia and just jump.

I f*ing truly hate this discrimination, its reverse racism. I'm just trying to warn folks from western countries not to fall on the trap. Enjoy in Asia. As long as you have money and ATM card. Once its goes. No one will care for you. Sorry. Its the way Asia is defined in the matrix. You guys should watch star wars 10 times before you come to Asia.[/QUOTE]

I've got a 9 day stopover in Kuala Lumpur on route back from Auckland to UK (Malaysia airlines fare was too tempting to resist).

Wasn't planning on staying in Malaysia for 2 long, and was tempted by a visit to the Philippines. I've been looking at the Angeles and Manila forums for a while and they both look tempting. The question is, is there any point in trying to visit both places? I fancy a visit to the Fields Avenue go-go bars, but I suspect that during the day there might be a more touristy things to do in Manila.

Llantarnam: how much time to you have to spend in Phils? All 9 days?

[quote=asian rain; 1324891]she is in crisis. needs money for (fill-in-the-blank financial problem). snip she has been a good pimpette in recent months,

situation is likely to recur.[/quote]speaking of 'pettes. a year ago i meet this lady on del pilar. several days walking by where she hangs out in the daytime, lots of 'hi' back / forth. mid 30's. finally one day i stop and chat her up (let's call her 'e'). nothing unusual, just talk. another time she's sitting with a hottie, and we talk and exchange phone numbers (the lady, not the hottie). later, she would bring the hottie by the hotel, offering the girl, for a fee similar to the one ar posted with the killer-bee. the lady kept 300 for herself, and was nice enough to accompany us and take pics for me. sweet. the hottie is posted from back then in the pg. i didn't think of e as a pimpette for several reasons, mostly because she didn't come screaming back with more girls. mostly she just had a girl who needed some pesos and so did she.

fast forward to more recently, i run into e at the mall. hugs / kisses / coffee. she has a girl ('m') to bring by my hotel shortly, and mentions a fee that is 100 less than previously, saying she wants only 200 for herself now. fine, a savings for me. she brings m and a good time is had. this would kick off what would be a stunning run bringing the mountain (girls) to mohammed, not vice verca. the next day e brought 'j' for an afternoon of fun. after the fun, j mentioned that she could bring girls for less than e. really, prove it! and she did. j would keep 200 for herself and give the fresh girl the rest. j would either hang in the living room while i played with her girls, or she would take pics.

while walking j and recently-tenderized meat out the front door, by bad timing e was walking into the hotel with her fresh meat. an argument ensued between e and j, as e figured out that she had been cut out of the loop by one of her girls. i took e and fresh meat to the room and told them i was tired, not looking for a girl, and besides j seemed to have plenty of girls and for less than e. you guessed it, e dropped her price to match j's prices. later, j would tell me that she and e had kissed and made up, and e would be bringing me a girl (or two) early afternoon each day, while j would bring one in the late afternoon.

both e and j's fresh girls would also attempt to cut their mama out of the loop, with even lower prices for new girls in various combinations, such as: 'i bring two girl for less. you want? ' this was not necessary, but it shows how opportunistic (and the lack of loyalty) the girls are / have. one problem that i was having was e's girls. i sent away at least half a dozen or so, almost one / day, for appearing ****. e would quickly disappear and 20 minutes later she was back with an older girl. both ladies appeared to have unending supply. both ladies would also later drop their rates again.

in addition, m, the first girl brought from e, would borrow her friend's phones to txt me asking to come back over, bypassing e, so i had her come in the evening. i asked her how much she would want for the night, staying until after breakfast, and she could not answer (naive). 'you say. ' i told her she would have to come up with an amount. she stared at her feet and finally said, '1200. ' an agreement. she would spend the next 5 nights, not knowing when to leave the next day (the earliest she left was at 10am to buy food for her sister, otherwise she stayed into the afternoon) , staying until i told her she could go home, then returning anywhere from an hour later to the early evening. she would either go home, or stay while e's fresh meat was with me in the room. she also would shoot pics, or just watch tv.

this is how it went for a week or so. i forgot almost completely about fucking my chatmates (i was sexually exhausted) , or my manila regulars (where are my manners?). there were so many girls being brought to the hotel for 2- or 3-somes, the hotel management had spinning heads. sometimes m would come / go in the afternoons on her own schedule. i thought she was going home, but she went to the mall and came back. she would run into j and chat, and j would introduce m to this evening's fresh meat. m would walk back to the hotel with j and friend. i would be upstairs with 2 of e's girls, and the phone would ring: 'sir, front desk. miss m miss j and friend are here. can they come up? ' shit, i'm busy, if they come up then we have 5 girls in the room. tell them to wait.

more later.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1325264]Llantarnam: how much time to you have to spend in Phils? All 9 days?[/QUOTE]I'm flexible on timing. Never been to Kuala Lumpur before so thought I might spend two or 3 days there.

I've been to Thailand, Singapore and Bali recently and thought the Philippines might be a nice change. I'm not a hardcore monger, but as a single man I do like a bit of Jiggy when I am on holiday.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1325488]This is how it went for a week or so. I forgot almost completely about fucking my chatmates (I was sexually exhausted) , or my Manila regulars (where are my manners?). SNIP. .[/QUOTE]If I hadn't actually met WC1 in person in the midst of all of this mayhem I would have doubted his story but for all you skeptics out there, it's all true. My head was spinning too as i heard the blow by blow.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1;1325488]Fast forward to more recently, I run into E at the mall. Hugs / kisses / coffee. She has a girl ('M') to bring by my hotel shortly, and mentions a fee that is 100 less than previously, saying she wants only 200 for herself now. Fine, a savings for me. She brings M and a good time is had. This would kick off what would be a stunning run bringing the mountain (girls) to Mohammed, not vice verca. The next day E brought 'J' for an afternoon of fun. After the fun, J mentioned that she could bring girls for less than E. More later.[/QUOTE]Hey Man E, J and M and wow I'm all confused LOL. Thats some good stuff WC. As you know I was staying down the road from you in makati when you were there and too bad we could not have met up. The day RK went to see you and invited me I had a date lunch with a working nurse that turned out to be the one of the prettiest girls I met durring my 17 days there. I played my cards wrong and should have taken her out to dinner instead of trying to get a lunch time session with her in my room. She was one of the only girls I did not sex other than a fatty that I politely dodged.

You and I were playing two completely different spectrums of the game. I was curious about all those naughty girls comming and going but don't think I could deal with it.

Tell more.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1325688]If I hadn't actually met WC1 in person in the midst of all of this mayhem I would have doubted his story but for all you skeptics out there, it's all true. My head was spinning too as i heard the blow by blow.[/QUOTE]What's so hard to believe! ? Judging from his photos, knowledge and experience, easy to believe. But you don't have to be his shill. Actually, I wouldn't put anything past members here. There is a lot to be said about being on the ground and working the streets!

[QUOTE=Gangles;1325127]In my limited experience, the most racist people that I have encountered are black Americans and Australian aboriginals. For them, race is everything.[/QUOTE]Yes I vehemently agree, just ask Chocha Monger and Warbucks!