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Thank you Bumholes for your common sense and useful information. Alas I am allergic to the Cipro-Norfloxacin family.
[QUOTE=Soi Song]Firstly, if you put it in use a condom![/quote]
No. To stay at home abstaining and masturbating would be more fun than that, SS.
[quote]As to the gent who goes to Up county lady houses. Dude, you are just plain nuts. I would guess that alot of shite we are exposed to come from the boyfriend of the girl we are with and he got it from a 200 Baht thai hooker![/quote]
Actually, the girls who cater to farang are far more apt to go bareback than these in the Thai-oriented industry. A majority of farang visitors prefer bareback sex, while most Thais use condoms.
[quote]And, I'm not sure was up with some of this talk about cures. If I had someting I would change Doc's untill I got a nice big shot in the butt! Massive amount of drugs in the butt muscle and off I go. I've know so many guys that have gotton a dirty jump and they always get the big shot in the rear and can go back into action in 2 or 3 days.[/QUOTE]
Yes, we all know about cefixime, it is just very inconvenient to go to the doctor everytime for this shot. Much easier to take antibiotics orally, and they work just as well.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]I'm not sure that expense is a big issue when it comes to important issues like the clap but there are cheaper brands of Azithromycin as well, e.g Binozyt. Price is very low in comparison to mongering cost.
But I can't comment on best treatments as am not a doctor.[/QUOTE]
Mick Licker, the price of one box of five 250 miligram tablets of Zithromax is about 560 baht (of course one only takes four, a 1g dose. - not unlike the oft-malented missmatch between the quantity of hotdogs and buns). I rarely pay that much for sex, so Zithromax is more expensive than the act which occasions its use. But thanks so much for the tip about 'Binozyt'! How much does that run, in your experience?
Alas, in spite of many replies I still do not know how to communicate my exhortation to the lady in question.
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Opebo, I think you're just scared that if she goes to a doctor, she will find out HOW she got an infection and refuse to have bareback sex with you any more.
Medicating her without a professional diagnosis would be totally irresponsible. She needs a full STI check, 'coz she could have any number of additional infections on top of the clap. She also obviously needs some sexual health education - you can't just tell her that she has an infection and give her antibiotics and risk her not understanding HOW she caught it or how to protect herself from it in the future. If she got it from her boyfriend or from another regular client, she's just gonna end up re-infected anyway, unless [i]those[/i] people are also made aware of the infection. She needs the full story, which she will not get from you just throwing her a packet of pills.
As for how to convey all this to the girl, go to [url]www.empowerfoundation.org[/url] and email the contact number at the bottom of the page. The people at the other end speak fluent English. Describe the scenario to them and ask them how to say what you need to say to the girl. They will also be able to provide you with details of free clinics, etc.
Don't take advantage of this girl's vulnerability and put her health at risk for your own selfish reasons. Talk to Empower and get her to a doctor.
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[quote=rubber nursey]opebo, i think you're just scared that if she goes to a doctor, she will find out how she got an infection and refuse to have bareback sex with you any more.[/quote]
i thank you for your efforts, rubber, though they are of no help in answering the question i posed. i would just like to state, however, that it is somewhat offensive and condescending that you would assume this woman is ignorant of how one gets a minor infection in the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]-hole.
perhaps, to be fair, you have an inaccurate mental picture - the woman is pushing 30, is free to come and go from the brothel at will (being a full thai citizen with id and everything). like all thais, she has had an earful of 'safe sex' propaganda from birth, as well as a basic education in 'science'. her choice to provide bareback was an informed one, and quite reasonable - the risks are low or minor, and there is really no other way to get an overpaying regular.
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my first sentence was sarcasm. the rest of the post was in no way intended to be condescending or offensive to the girl in question. she can choose to do whatever she wants with her body, so long as the choice is an informed one.
i'm not suggesting this woman is 'ignorant' at all - just that perhaps she's not quite as 'informed' as you claim she is. in the time that it took you to develop symptoms, cure the clap, catch it from her again, develop symptoms and cure it again, it seems she has not even discovered that she has an infection. to me, this either says she is not undergoing regular sti tests and/or has sought and received treatment but is ill-informed on the matter of re-infection. (perhaps another client just handed her a packet of antibiotics and told her that would fix everything?)
and unlike most of the other posters, i [i]did[/i] try to answer the question you posed. empower would be more than happy to help you with your translation and assist this woman to access treatment.
ps. chlamydia is not a 'minor infection of the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]-hole'. in women, untreated chlamydia can cause anything from period problems to pelvic inflammatory disease - which can cause severe pain and bleeding, ectopic pregnancy, infertility and, in rare cases, death. not so minor at all.
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[QUOTE=Rubber Nursey]In the time that it took you to develop symptoms, cure the clap, catch it from her again, develop symptoms and cure it again, it seems she has not even discovered that she has an infection.[/QUOTE]
The asymptomatic nature of this infection in women is famous, Rubber, and is perhaps the main reason for its spread.
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[QUOTE=Opebo]The asymptomatic nature of this infection in women is famous, Rubber, and is perhaps the main reason for its spread.[/QUOTE]
A large majority of STIs are asymptomatic in women. That's why the only way for women to be sure of their status is to have regular STI testing. But regular testing, and treatment when infected, means nothing if she keeps going back to the original source of her infection.
In my opinion, one of the main reasons for the spread of STIs is people's inability, or unwillingness, to disclose their STI status to others they may have already infected. You said you've caught the infection from this woman twice now - did you have unprotected sex with any [i]other[/i] sex workers in that time? Did you go back and tell those girls they may be at risk, once you found out? How many clients did those other workers have after you, who then went out and infected other sex workers...or took it back to their wives and girlfriends (who then went and infected the milkman ;))?
Don't take this as a personal attack at all - I'm just using your situation as an example of how infections multiply exponentially. Giving this girl antibiotics that may or may not treat an infection that she may or may not have, will not help anyone. She needs to know exactly what she has and be treated by a doctor and then she needs to isolate the source of her infection to prevent re-infection, otherwise she's just gonna be on an endless STI merry-go-round...and infect countless other clients and sex workers in the process.
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Opebo,
If you and the girl(s) you're doing want to go bareback, and are also infected, why are you bothering to post here in the "Safe Sex in Thailand" forum, and ask for information?? I don't see the point really??
So far you've knocked back every form of useful advice below, anyhow. What kind of answer are you seeking?? You want a Thai translation?? Go to a language website.. there's plently around.
I think the best thing would be to just let natural attrition / evolution of the human race replace people, with the same philosophy as yourself, who are intent on harming themselves and others with intentional unsafe sex and then infection of others.
Just do what you want (which you are in any case), and let nature take care of the rest.
[QUOTE=Opebo]Thank you Bumholes for your common sense and useful information. Alas I am allergic to the Cipro-Norfloxacin family.
>>Firstly, if you put it in use a condom!
No. To stay at home abstaining and masturbating would be more fun than that, SS.
Actually, the girls who cater to farang are far more apt to go bareback than these in the Thai-oriented industry. A majority of farang visitors prefer bareback sex, while most Thais use condoms.
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[QUOTE=Opebo]Actually, the girls who cater to farang are far more apt to go bareback than these in the Thai-oriented industry. A majority of farang visitors prefer bareback sex, while most Thais use condoms. [/QUOTE]Opebo,
I am not going to sit there and badger you with "Bareback this and Bareback that", this is your life and you are i guess adult enough to understand the consequenses of your actions.
the thing I do not agree with is your above comment. The Girls who cater to Farang, ALL have Thai Boyfriends... and, trust me, the Thai Boyfriends do not wear condoms. Yes, when Thais visit a "Brothel", they might wear protection, but slim to none are the chances of them wearing a rubber when with their girlfriends.
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Exactly. I have a number of Chinese & Azn guy friends in my home city.. they hate wearing condoms on the best of occasions (in brothels) let alone with GFs. Yes they go over the top with showers, saunas, and other "hygiene" habits, but condoms- no (Just like the girls will all use tonnes of Listerine gargle in the hopes that it somehow stops STDs lol.
The Thais I know here (or in LOS) don't seem too enthusiastic to wear condoms either. A Thai wearing a cover with his GF is plain laughable.. and did you ever meet a bargirl who aimed at farangs, and who didn't have a Thai BF or Thai waster on the receiving end somewhere??
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Opebo,
I am not going to sit there and badger you with "Bareback this and Bareback that", this is your life and you are i guess adult enough to understand the consequenses of your actions.
the thing I do not agree with is your above comment. The Girls who cater to Farang, ALL have Thai Boyfriends... and, trust me, the Thai Boyfriends do not wear condoms. Yes, when Thais visit a "Brothel", they might wear protection, but slim to none are the chances of them wearing a rubber when with their girlfriends.[/QUOTE]
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Note to self: Do not feed the trolls.
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[QUOTE=Opebo]I hope it is not I to whom you are referring, Rubber Nursey. ?"[/QUOTE]
Opebo. I dislike you a lot, and I never cease to be amazed with the shite you write. You pretend that you have a huge grasp of the English language.
Well mate, if you knew anything about English you would realise that the sentence should have read '... not me to whom you are referring...'.
You are the object of the sentence, therefore the accusative case 'me' is correct. 'I' is only used when there is an understood qualification. I'll not bother explaining it to you because you'll just come back with some inane comment, because you are always right, but check it out if you don't believe me.
Just to make you feel better, OTH recently used 'etc, etc'. This again is a common mistake as etc means and so on and it is superflous in English to use it more than once.
Then you see, I may only be a a dumb ex-policeman, but my education was excellent,and I have subsequently achieved further qualifications, including a diploma from the Australian College of Journalism.
If you're going to play with the English language and pretend you are some literary giant, get the basics right. Just like your knowledge of sexually transmitted diseases and microbiology, get the basics right.
BTW, you will probably find typos in this, but that's down to my fingers, not my brain.
And in fact in all honesty, after reading the sentence it should say ... not me to whom you refer.. !
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[QUOTE=Petemcc]Just to make you feel better, OTH recently used 'etc, etc'. This again is a common mistake as etc means and so on and it is superflous in English to use it more than once.[/QUOTE]
If I am nothing else, I too am superfluous, and so on, and so on...and so on, after that. ;)
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No, I wasn't referring to you, Opebo. I posted a message in anger and haste, regretted it and deleted it - apparently not soon enough, though.
[i]Please[/i] contact Empower for your translation. There is nobody better suited to assist you.
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[QUOTE=Opebo]
I think you fail to understand only one aspect of my tale - in small towns there are few options in terms of hookers, so you have little choice but to go traveling or return to the same girls.
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I have been following this thread over recent days, and since Mr Opebo and I have a couple of things in common, I thought I would offer some moral support.
I too live out in the sticks, and when wishing to monger have to avail myself of what is in the locality. Usually not a lot!. They are either old, fat or ugly, and many times a combination of all 3. When I find a girl who is a cut above the others, and provides not only a good service, but is prepared to adapt to my peccadillos, then naturally I would wish to see her again. Not only does a good rapport develop between us, but both she and I look forward to our future get togethers. She continues to provide good service +, and would be a fool not too. I get to teach her new techniques.
Most mongers submitting to this and other forums have the advantage of living in or near the main mongering grounds of Bangkok, Pattaya or Phuket, and have such a large variety of girls available to them, that they have no need to concern themselves with the girls continuing good health. Fuck them once and move on to the next attractive one.
So I have much sympathy for Mr Opebo with his current dilemma. Naturally he wishes to see his regular girl restored to full health, so that he can continue his liaison with her without health problems to himself. However, as other contributors have mentioned, whilst a dose of Zithromax will in all probability cure her current predicament, she may very well be re-infected should she have sex again with the man who originally infected her, be it punter or boyfriend. Mr Opebo needs more than just a translation of how and why she should take the Zithromax. He needs somehow to instill in her not only the need to practice safe sex, but the reasons why, even if he is able to persuade her that she may continue to provide him and him alone with unprotected sex.
Of course, should Mr Opebo live anywhere near me, then it is conceivable that we occasionally share the same lass, and the modification of safe sex referred to above should be equally extended to Bumholes!
